[12:23] <cbx33> l
[12:37] <SnrWhippy> sorted whats this bit about? None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your
[12:37] <SnrWhippy> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[12:37] <SnrWhippy> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)
[12:39] <cbx33> yup
[12:39] <SnrWhippy> i take it i say yes then i have to find my c compiler if one is installed by default
[12:39] <cbx33> you need to compile
[12:39] <cbx33> no
[12:39] <cbx33> this is what you do
[12:39] <cbx33> quit the config program
[12:39] <cbx33> and then do this
[12:39] <SnrWhippy> k
[12:40] <cbx33> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[12:40] <cbx33> i think that's it
[12:40] <cbx33> ok
[12:40] <cbx33> ydon;t do that
[12:40] <cbx33> do
[12:40] <SnrWhippy> ok
[12:40] <cbx33> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:41] <cbx33> then do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:42] <cbx33> then re run
[12:42] <cbx33> sudo vmware-config.pl
[12:42] <cbx33> and it should compile and load the module perfectly
[12:43] <SnrWhippy> ok excellent i'll give it a shot
[12:43] <cbx33> np
[12:45] <SnrWhippy> brilliant its the headers i didnt have that explains it
[12:46] <cbx33> heh
[12:46] <cbx33> all working now?
[12:52] <SnrWhippy> your an absolute hero!
[01:05] <SnrWhippy> arggg it just wont start
[01:05] <a5benwillis> what wont start
[01:05] <SnrWhippy> vmware just installed it
[01:05] <a5benwillis> did you configure it?
[01:05] <SnrWhippy> yeah it all went ok
[01:06] <SnrWhippy> just when i go to click on it in system tools it just whirrs a bit and stops
[01:06] <a5benwillis> try running it from sudo
[01:07] <a5benwillis> how did you install it? apt-get? or is it the beta version from tar.gz?
[01:08] <SnrWhippy> beta
[01:08] <SnrWhippy> says its not corrects installed for this system arggg
[01:08] <SnrWhippy> back to the drawing boards
[01:09] <a5benwillis> Im running the beta
[01:09] <a5benwillis> works just fine
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel.
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes] 
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:10] <SnrWhippy> kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/build/include] 
[01:11] <SnrWhippy> does that look about right
[01:12] <a5benwillis> yes
[01:12] <a5benwillis> mine did the same thing
[01:12] <SnrWhippy> ahh i wonder if its to do with madwifi
[01:13] <a5benwillis> you should still be able to install it.
[01:13] <SnrWhippy> all default settings?
[01:13] <a5benwillis> yes
[01:14] <a5benwillis> when it finishes installing it wall ask to run vmware-config
[01:14] <a5benwillis> let it run.
[01:14] <a5benwillis> then run vmware with sudo the first time
[01:17] <SnrWhippy> just says its not correctly configured
[01:17] <SnrWhippy> i'll have a mess about
[01:18] <SnrWhippy> i think its probably something to do with kernel version or the fact i've bridged the wireless with vmnet0
[01:18] <SnrWhippy> and it fails bizarrly in the setup
[01:19] <SnrWhippy> how do i check my kernel version?
[01:23] <a5benwillis> sry Im back
[01:23] <a5benwillis> let me catch up
[01:24] <SnrWhippy> arggg yeah it is the damn wireless card
[01:24] <SnrWhippy> i disabled networking in the config and it starts no probs
[01:24] <a5benwillis> cat /proc/version
[01:25] <SnrWhippy> cheers yeah version is right
[01:25] <a5benwillis> my wireless works, but, when I do vpn from my windows guest I have to use wired
[01:25] <a5benwillis> but I have an intel pro card
[01:26] <SnrWhippy> yeah i've got a dodgy atheros
[01:26] <SnrWhippy> uses madwifi
[01:26] <SnrWhippy> which is causing me some grief
[01:26] <a5benwillis> is this edubuntu?
[01:26] <SnrWhippy> yeah
[01:26] <a5benwillis> host or guest
[01:27] <SnrWhippy> host
[01:27] <a5benwillis> interesting
[01:27] <SnrWhippy> i havent got to the guest stage yet
[01:27] <a5benwillis> i run ubuntu edgy on my laptop
[01:27] <a5benwillis> but I do run edu in vmware
[01:27] <a5benwillis> I also have it running under vmware ESX server
[01:28] <SnrWhippy> ive never used esx server is it any good
[01:29] <SnrWhippy> i'd love to see a proper vmware infrastructure working
[01:30] <a5benwillis> yes, ESX is the way to go if you have the hardware. Its very picky
[01:30] <a5benwillis> it runs on a modified Fedora kernel and uses very very little of the systems resources.
[01:30] <a5benwillis> I have it running on a dual Xeon 3.6 with 6GB ram
[01:31] <a5benwillis> 400GB SATA Drives
[01:31] <a5benwillis> erm SAS
[01:31] <SnrWhippy> deary me
[01:31] <SnrWhippy> thats a serious sytem
[01:32] <a5benwillis> its a dell poweredge 2850
[01:32] <SnrWhippy> oh yeah i think our ibm's e series at work should be silimar apart from ram and hdd
[01:34] <SnrWhippy> they should be ok for esx perhaps but i need to convert the physical machine to a virtual before i can blank the server and start again
[01:34] <a5benwillis> I run the 2.5 version, havent tried the newest 3.0. Im not even sure what the new features are
[01:34] <SnrWhippy> is it not stupidly expensive
[01:35] <a5benwillis> Im sure it is ;-)
[01:35] <SnrWhippy> lol
[06:36] <prgatorypete> hello
[06:49] <LaserJock> hi
[06:53] <prgatorypete> i'm having trouble setting up my wireless card with edubuntu
[06:53] <prgatorypete> anyone have any advice?
[07:51] <cbx33>  hey
[08:02] <highvoltage> hey cbx33
[01:57] <KetS> hi?
[01:58] <stgraber> hi
[01:58] <KetS> i'm looking for a lighter vesion of edubuntu tu install in a group of computers that are going to be sent to Africa, do you know if there's an Edubuntu version with xfce of even lower desktop manager?
[02:00] <stgraber> there was the idea to do that : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuXfceDesktop
[02:01] <kgoetz> KetS: not an 'out of the box', but you can DIY
[02:01] <stgraber> but I don't know if someone did a cdrom for that
[02:01] <stgraber> otherwise you can still get a xubuntu cd-rom
[02:01] <stgraber> and update it to install the educationnal packages
[02:01] <kgoetz> or edubuntu+install xfce, which would proably be eaiser then xfce+edubuntu stuff
[02:02] <stgraber> yup
[02:04] <KetS> uhmmm i guess
[02:05] <KetS> the problem it's that it should be installed in several computers and we don't have internet access there so we have to do it all manually in every desktop
[02:06] <kgoetz> KetS: why not make an install cd and use that to install all systems?
[02:06] <stgraber> so customizing an install cdrom should be the easiest way or maybe install a computer somewhere where you have internet and then do an image of the disk
[02:06] <KetS> kgoetz will be it very dificult? i've been long time using debian but don't know how to create an install CD
[02:06] <kgoetz> what i just did for work was install E16+standard ubuntu+extra apps then made mondo recover discs (2 cds for an install), its up to date, and has all customisations required
[02:07] <kgoetz>  then the only major cost is making cds
[02:07] <kgoetz> hm. i also had +dist-upgrade
[02:07] <kgoetz> it takes a long time to make mondo discs, but its not hard
[02:07] <KetS> uhmmm do you have a guide (link)
[02:07] <KetS> ?
[02:07] <kgoetz> i was takene aback by it doing a nagware trick at me, but i havent had a chance to investigate it yet
[02:07] <cbx33> w00t just finished our new website.... www.trinsite.co.uk
[02:08] <kgoetz> hm, no. you apt-get install mondo, then type 'sudo mondoarchive' and follow the prompts
[02:08] <kgoetz> (i did what a mate sugested, it worked without needing a guide)
[02:08] <KetS> okei, i'll try it, thanks very much
[02:09] <kgoetz> cbx33: neat site, fails validation ;)
[02:09] <stgraber> cbx33: looks great, just a little thing the bottom picture takes quite a lot of time to show there
[02:09] <kgoetz> gl KetS
[02:09] <cbx33> just about to work :0
[02:09] <cbx33> refresh plz
[02:09] <kgoetz> ooh, more stuff
[02:09] <cbx33> yup
[02:10] <stgraber> oo, we have the header now :)
[02:10] <cbx33> likey?
[02:10] <kgoetz> cbx33: is nice, but heavy
[02:10] <cbx33> indeed
[02:10] <stgraber> the server seems to be quite slow to serve the pictures ...
[02:11] <cbx33> hmm seems ok here
[02:11] <kgoetz> stgraber: thats what i found
[02:11] <kgoetz> cbx33: whats your connection?
[02:11] <cbx33> 8Mb :p
[02:11] <cbx33> haha
[02:11] <kgoetz> i estimate about 500kb of images - is that correct?
[02:11] <stgraber> ~32kB/s during the picture download
[02:12] <stgraber> (when I can download at 800kB/s :))
[02:12] <cbx33> hehe
[02:12] <cbx33> we're just about to start compressing imge
[02:12] <cbx33> should speed things up
[02:12] <kgoetz> ah cool
[02:12] <stgraber> ok, good thing :)
[02:13] <kgoetz> cbx33: are you going to make it validate, or is it 'broken for a reason'?
[02:13] <cbx33> how does it fail?
[02:13] <cbx33> it gets a tick for standards complicane in firefox
[02:13] <kgoetz> 3 div related errors, 4 alt tags http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trinsite.co.uk%2F
[02:15] <cbx33> HAHAHA
[02:15] <cbx33> the checker falls foul of JavaScript too
[02:15] <kgoetz> lol
[02:15] <kgoetz> :(
[02:15] <stgraber> :)
[02:16] <cbx33> hehe
[02:16] <cbx33> anyone used open laszlo
[02:16] <kgoetz> hi edubuntugirl
[02:16] <edubuntugirl> hello, kgoetz!
[02:16] <stgraber> hi edubuntugirl
[02:16] <edubuntugirl> howzit, stgraber!
[02:16] <kgoetz> :)
[02:17] <stgraber> finally back :)
[02:17] <kgoetz> :)
[02:47] <a5benwillis> mornin
[03:00] <rockprincess> hello!
[03:02] <a5benwillis> good morning
[03:06] <rockprincess> good morning ;)
[03:06] <rockprincess> it's afternoon here ;)
[03:08] <stgraber> here as well but good morning anyway :)
[03:08] <a5benwillis> You guys ready for a tough question?
[03:08] <rockprincess> does anyone know how i could activate my 2nd network card? i just built it in....
[03:09] <rockprincess> the 2nd network card is recognized by the system...
[03:09] <a5benwillis> is the hardware detected?
[03:09] <a5benwillis> ok
[03:09] <rockprincess> yep
[03:09] <a5benwillis> does it show up under network-config
[03:10] <a5benwillis> was it assignet an eth#?
[03:10] <rockprincess> where do it see if this is the case?
[03:12] <a5benwillis> hold on a sec
[03:18] <a5benwillis> ok im back
[03:18] <a5benwillis> if you go to System>Administration>networking
[03:18] <a5benwillis> does it show up there?
[03:19] <rockprincess> yes, i guess....but it says it's not configured...and the other one says DHCP
[03:20] <rockprincess> shall i configure the 2nd one to DHCP as well?
[03:20] <a5benwillis> on the main screen is the little box checked or does it have a line through it.
[03:21] <rockprincess> it is checked
[03:21] <a5benwillis> on the new card?
[03:21] <rockprincess> no the new one is blank, neither striked-through or checked
[03:22] <a5benwillis> oh ok, that makes sense
[03:22] <a5benwillis> go to properties
[03:22] <a5benwillis> check enable interface
[03:22] <rockprincess> ok
[03:22] <a5benwillis> or enable this connection
[03:22] <a5benwillis> then click ok
[03:22] <a5benwillis> then check that first box
[03:22] <rockprincess> configuration: automatic configuration (DHCP) right?
[03:23] <a5benwillis> as long as you have a dhcp server, yes
[03:25] <rockprincess> excellent, thank you it worked :D
[03:29] <a5benwillis> np
[04:04] <cliebow_> what should i be using for a kernel in feisty?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> 2.6.20-8
[04:21] <cliebow_> thank you
[04:21] <a5benwillis> mornin cliebow_
[04:21] <a5benwillis> your the nss expert right?
[04:22] <a5benwillis> erm youre
[04:29] <cliebow_> no..not really
[04:30] <cliebow_> i  mean i have an nsswitch.conf that works for ldap..but that is a no brainer./..
[08:40] <mathesis> how can configure audio for firefox?
[09:44] <a5benwillis> anybody here today?
[10:01] <cliebow_> INPUT!!!
[10:08] <highvoltage> megabytes and megabytes of INPUT
[10:09] <highvoltage> johnny five is alive!
[10:14] <a5benwillis> been slow here today I see
[10:14] <a5benwillis> cliebow_: SInce you're the nss expert ;-) lemme ask you a question
[10:15] <a5benwillis> .
[10:15] <a5benwillis> I added an nss module to my nsswitch.config.
[10:15] <a5benwillis> like this: passwd:    compat ncp
[10:16] <a5benwillis> I also added it to shadow.
[10:16] <a5benwillis> .
[10:16] <cbx33> hi a5benwillis
[10:16] <a5benwillis> users are being looked up properly now via NCP and the nss module. Yay!
[10:16] <a5benwillis> hi cbx33
[10:16] <cbx33> excellent work
[10:17] <a5benwillis> but I still get an error when I try to log into SSH. argh
[10:17] <cbx33> :(
[10:17] <a5benwillis> The user is found via NSS/NCP
[10:17] <a5benwillis> Authenticated successfully
[10:17] <a5benwillis> .
[10:17] <a5benwillis> You would think I had it licked at this point.
[10:17] <a5benwillis> .
[10:18] <a5benwillis> The last message I get in my auth.log is
[10:19] <a5benwillis> ssd[6995] : debug1: do_pam_account: called
[10:19] <a5benwillis> .
[10:19] <a5benwillis> when this happens the ssh client side accepts the password and just sits there.
[10:19] <a5benwillis> .
[10:19] <a5benwillis> Eventually another error is logged in auth.log
[10:20] <a5benwillis> Fatal: Timeout before authentication for 127.0.0.1
[10:20] <a5benwillis> .
[10:20] <a5benwillis> .
[10:20] <cbx33> hmmm
[10:20] <a5benwillis> DOes this make any sense to you guys? I can still log in with a local account BTW so SSH isnt broken completely
[10:21] <a5benwillis> I really thought I had it fixed. But this is almost as bad as before lol. SO close yet so far away.
[10:27] <a5benwillis> .
[10:28] <a5benwillis> If anyone has an Idea lemme know. I'll check back. Gonna go mess with it some more.