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aseigoTMM: you'll probably like the fm in kde4 in any case... all the power, half the interface12:13
aseigoTMM: in the meantime, one does end up getting pretty attached to konqi. it's just a bit of a deep-end-of-the-pool experience12:13
aseigo"OMG .. there. is. so. much."12:13
aseigo6 months later: "jesus, how'd i ever live without half this stuff?" ;)12:14
TMMaseigo: well, it is not like I'm not experienced with linux, or even KDE, I dumped gnome 1.x (helix desktop) for kde 3.0... for the bouncy icon cursur thingy, to be totally honest12:14
aseigowe're working on improving the first date experience without sacrificing the long term marriage potential12:14
aseigolol.. the bouncy icon rocks12:14
makuserui like fedora spinny icons12:14
aseigoi remember when that first entered cvs (back before svn) and i just sat there launching apps12:14
aseigomakuseru: the busy cursor is really nice in fedora, yeah12:15
makuserubut everything else is crap12:15
TMMaseigo: but, right now, coming from gnome 2.4.17 to kde 3.5.3 (I think) it all feels so cluttered, and (dare I say) windows xp like12:15
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aseigoso .. usable in real world environments? *grin*12:15
SSJ_GZI like Oxygen's Busy cursor so much, I almost wish KDE were slower =)12:15
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aseigoseriously though ...12:15
makuserukde is not windoes like12:16
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dec_anyone know how to install a .rpm package in ubuntu?12:16
makuseruget alien12:16
aseigoyeah, we're working on the feeling of clutter. part of it is that crystal (icon theme) became very inconsistent over time12:16
makuseruitll convert it12:16
aseigosome of it is the over use of frames12:16
aseigoetc... lots of little things ... very little to do with the actual functionality, to be honest12:16
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aseigoTMM: in any case, welcome to kde =)12:17
TMMwell, I'm not totally hating it or anything12:17
SSJ_GZaseigo: Is Konqueror still going to house all of the File Manager settings, or will that be moved to Dolphin?12:17
TMMit is just that, well... I'm feeling a bit 'uncertain'12:17
SSJ_GZI find that many accusations of clutter are aimed at Konqueror's settings menu.12:17
BluesKajit ain't XP , believe me  TMM :)12:17
SSJ_GZThat, and KControl.12:17
TMMaseigo: also, to me, personally, windows XP is completely unuseable :) (also more cluttered than KDE) ;)12:17
aseigoSSJ_GZ: they'll share most settings. each will have a sub/super-set of them12:17
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TMMBluesKaj: I know it isn't windows XP12:18
SSJ_GZYeah, I've always found the resemblance to Windows to be pretty superficial.12:18
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BluesKajTMM, it's entirely up to the user how the desktop is set up12:18
SSJ_GZaseigo: Ok, thanks :)12:18
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mike__..12:18
makuseruwhat is a good video editing program in kubuntu12:18
SiLVERwhats the best way to get a mac-like taskbar? icons should get bigger, when you move the mouse on it, etc12:19
BluesKajppl say Kino12:19
TMMplease, I am not trying to shout 'KDE is for windows hates, gnome is for unix lovers' or anything of that bullshit, it was just striking to ME at first glance, how enourmously alike it is. Then I went and looked at screenshots on kde.org, and it is STILL very much the same 'feel'12:19
aseigomakuseru: i don't know of one, to be honest. there are some video editting suites, but they are all pretty damn complex and over the top. there's one being developed with qt4/kde4 that looks really promissing, but it's still alpha alpha12:19
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TMMI do not want any sort of flamewar, hell, I'm on KDE RIGHT NOW :)12:19
makuseruBluesKaj: you talkin to me?12:20
SSJ_GZTMM: Relax, we're all friends here :)12:20
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BluesKajmakuseru, , yes12:20
TMMjust wanted to make that clear :P12:20
aseigoTMM: yep, we're well aware of the "first date" syndrome we suffer. all i can say for now is "i hear you, we know about it. the marriage is great, we're working on the early impressions bit now."12:20
cpk1windows doesnt have virtual desktops =)12:20
SSJ_GZTMM: Drag the kicker up to the top of the screen - it might make you feel more at home ;)12:20
makuseruSiLVER: kxdock, cooldock, ksmoothdock, etc12:20
cpk1and doesnt have a kajillion apps that all tie into each other12:20
TMMoww, more gripes12:21
SiLVERmakuseru: i know, there are several programms availabe, but whtas the best to use?12:21
TMMof you make kicker smaller to a reasonable size, it becomes ugly :)12:21
makuseruand in linux "add remove really means ADD remove"12:21
TMM:P12:21
BluesKajTMM, well there's method in the KDE madness ...that's to welcome former windows users (like me ) and give them a less intimidated and more familiar environment12:21
cpk1my kicker is set to tiny and I love how it looks =)12:21
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makuseruSiLVER: i think ksmoothdock is the best12:21
TMMless intimidating ?12:21
SiLVERmakuseru: ty, ill try it12:21
TMMlet's be advocate of the devil here: I'm a long time linux user, I've got the beard and the long hair to prove it, what has KDE got to offer ME? :)12:22
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makuserutheres more settings in it12:22
cpk1i suppose it depends what you want from a DE12:22
makuseruand it looks prettier12:22
TMMyes, it *IS* pretty12:23
cpk1it comes with amarok by default12:23
aseigoTMM: remote access to your files, dcop based automation of your apps, if your a sys admin type ksysguard is kick ass particularly for remote boxes12:23
BluesKajlinux has it's intimidation factor ... I was exposed to some very discouteous know it alls at the fedora core support charoom previous to switching to kubuntu.12:23
aseigoTMM: fish:// absolutely rocks, and the little touches like how ctrl-U clears line edits and ctrl-e autocompletes.12:23
JohnFluxTMM: ask not what KDE can do for you.. :-)12:23
Highor\ahi i downloaded kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 and burned it on a DVD, when i start windows the kubuntu disctree is coming, but if i restart my computer, then he doesn't boot from the CD, and i did the cd-rom first in the BIOS12:24
aseigoTMM: so there's this nice coupling of unix-y goodness and gui ease12:24
aseigoJohnFlux: hehe12:24
cpk1that automatic public fileserver thing is really cool TMM12:24
TMMfish:// is like sshfs, right?12:24
aseigoJohnFlux: ah, btw, ruphy and some other guy have started working on the sysguard->krunner integration12:24
aseigoJohnFlux: ruphy had some q's this morning for me..12:24
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TMMwell, I seem to be missing all the zeroconf goodness that came with gnome12:24
aseigoTMM: right... and it works in -any- kde app12:24
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echosyp_how do i install kernel modules?12:24
cpk1isnt qt going to be available on linux when kde4 comes out?12:25
aseigoTMM: there's zeroconf in kde as well... which parts are you missing12:25
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TMMthe part where I can see the zeroconfe'd share on my server... strange12:25
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JohnFluxaseigo: fun fun12:25
aseigoTMM: oh, and we also have a proper printing system and a rather impressive file dialog12:25
TMMlol12:25
artisi downloaded kubuntu iso image, burned it but its not boot it says about i/o error what i did wrong ?12:25
aseigoJohnFlux: yeah, i like it when other people do the work ;)12:25
TMMI do not want to hear anything about any printing dialogs or I'm switching to XFCE :P12:25
aseigoJohnFlux: we can fiddle on the core bits of fun and leave the fiddly bits =)12:26
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echosyp_artis, did you check the md5?12:26
cpk1what is the name of that kde applet that automagically sets up easy filesharing?12:26
echosyp_maybe you burned a bad iso12:26
cpk1i forget its name12:26
TMMtoo much bandwidth has been wasted on that discussion :P12:26
artisi dunno .. how to do it ?12:26
TMM;)12:26
Highor\awhy isen't kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 booting from CD? :S12:26
JohnFluxaseigo: I did have an almost-working process list widget12:27
echosyp_i don't want to go into it, but dl the md5 checksum and run md5sum -c against the iso12:27
BluesKaj!kde applet12:27
TMMaseigo: I used gnome-user-share to make some homedirs available on my server, because I'm lazy and can't be arsed to set up something properly :)12:27
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB12:27
SSJ_GZcpk1: kpf?12:27
xxnicexguyxxspricht hier jemand deutsch??12:27
JohnFluxaseigo: just a stand alone widget12:27
BluesKaj!filesharing12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
TMMzeroconf://12:27
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TMMyes12:27
echosyp_how do i install kernel modules?12:27
TMMkio slaves... hum12:27
BluesKaj!share12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
TMMechosyp_: exactly what kind of kio slaves are we talking about here?12:27
khaijei asked once earlier today but i'll try again.... any suggestions for full remote desktop including sound (via ssh ideally) ?12:27
echosyp_what?12:28
artisechosyp_: so what i have to do now ?12:28
TMMechosyp_: kernel modules12:28
echosyp_kio slaves?12:28
echosyp_drm12:28
cpk1SSJ_GZ: hang on I'll fire up my laptop since its on that12:28
xxnicexguyxxcan someone help me???????????????????????????????12:28
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TMMechosyp_: I am trying to multitask, and I'm failing12:28
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TMMechosyp_: but, kernel modules, what kind of kernel modules, what are you trying to accomplish? :)12:28
echosyp_im trying to compile drm module, and it says "The DRI driver cannot be installed without the latest kernel modules"12:28
aseigoTMM: ah, we have a filesharing panel applet, though i don't think that does zeroconf announcements, and samba sharing built into the properties dialog for folders (so right click -> share) but again i'm not sure that does zeroconf12:29
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cpk1TMM: also superkaramba is pretty cool12:29
_eMaX_hi all12:29
_eMaX_*sigh*12:29
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dariosimonhi emax12:29
artisechosyp_: btw i  write iso only on 4 cd using iso maker on nero it gets error it says can't close session12:29
TMMaseigo: being advocate of the devel again here, but why on earth would I want to share something over samba? I've got NO windows machines here :)12:29
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_eMaX_since my upgrade to evolution 2.9.91 evolution core dumps often. can I with apt-get go back to a previous version?12:29
Highor\aif i restart my computer he doesn't boot from CD and i changed the bootsetup CD-rom first, then HDD and the disctree says: "This is a Live Kubuntu CD that can be run directly from your CD drive. Simply leave this CD in your drive and reboot the computer to run a demo of Kubuntu"12:29
aseigooh neat, kubuntu doesn't set up zeroconf at all.12:29
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echosyp_bad cd12:30
TMMaseigo: trust me, kubuntu is 300x better then mandriva, that stuff is just arcane12:30
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aseigoTMM: because it's actually a fairly decent system for that, believe it or not.12:30
cpk1SSJ_GZ: yeah it was kpf12:30
khaijeaseigo: you have to add the packages, there are integrations w/ kde for avahi12:30
Highor\ai downloaded kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 but i burned the files on a DVD12:30
echosyp_TMM, you know what thats about?12:30
echosyp_im trying to compile drm module, and it says "The DRI driver cannot be installed without the latest kernel modules"12:30
artisone of universities gives it to download i dont think it cud b bad ..12:30
aseigokhaije: ugh. this is the kind of stuff that should be set up out of the box.12:30
TMMechosyp_: well, sort of, what DRM modules are you trying to build?? what video card are you trying to get to work?12:30
aseigonot installed == not there for 99% of people12:31
echosyp_then it gives me some dri.log to refer to for what went wrong12:31
echosyp_mach6412:31
aseigono reason not to have this stuff.. where for art thou suse ;)12:31
SSJ_GZcpk1: Cool12:31
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TMMechosyp_: wow... errr, WHY? :) the 3d acceleration won't really be a whole lot faster :P12:31
echosyp_the dri log gives me some make error about no 'count'12:31
echosyp_true, but it will take a load off the cpu12:31
echosyp_even a little load12:31
cpk1SSJ_GZ: I was in a hurry needing to get my homework from my laptop to my desktop when I found that, got it set up in less than a minute =)12:31
TMMaseigo: well, I actually REALLY liked that gnome apace, mod_dav , avahi combo12:31
SSJ_GZcpk1: Hehe :)12:32
BluesKajcpk1, do you mean "kpf"  for file sharing12:32
cpk1yes12:32
TMMaseigo: it worked fully transparantly for other gnome desktops, and, judging by that zeroconf:/// thing it would have worked for KDE as well12:32
lu-baowhen i move windows (on my pc with kubuntu fresh installed) its like at windows without graphic drivers when you move windows its so cutted and lagging moving :( what is that for a problem ?12:32
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artisis there  a way  put bootable iso to usb flash12:32
piquadratHi! I'm still trying to get my external encrypted harddisk to automount. I just installed gnome and verified that it indeed supports this (it displays a password dialog when the disk is plugged in). Is there nothing of this sort for KDE/Kubuntu?12:32
TMMechosyp_: perhaps it is time to invest in a better video card? I mean independantly of your DRI issue, you can buy a radeon 9200 pci card for about $25 new online these days12:33
TMMechosyp_: that would actually HELP you, and it will still be supported by opensource drivers12:33
echosyp_TMM, its integrated12:33
echosyp_in my laptop12:33
TMMechosyp_: in that case, forget I said that :)12:33
TMMechosyp_: let's see if we can fix your DRI situation then ;)12:33
echosyp_yeah, i thought of that12:33
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lu-baosomebody knows this frame lag issue when you move windows around on desktop that it looks cutted and is slow?12:34
TMMechosyp_: why exactly do you think you need to compile new drm drivers? I thought the mach64 drivers were included with every distro?12:34
echosyp_it doesn't seem so12:34
echosyp_i don't have dri working12:35
TMMlu-bao: that will depend largely on the video driver in use by your hardware12:35
echosyp_im using the ati driver12:35
TMMechosyp_: I think that's not right12:35
echosyp_it is12:35
cpk1TMM: zeroconf:/ seems like it should work, on mine it just returns that the daemon isnt running so presumably it would work if I started it up12:35
echosyp_iv tried radeon, not supported12:35
TMMechosyp_: let me check, I don't think 'ati' supports mach6412:35
echosyp_k12:35
lu-baoTMM, mh i have ati radeon x850xt at pci-express with elitegroup kn1 extreme (nforce4 ultra mainboard) and amd64 3200+12:35
TMMechosyp_: ah, it SHOULD detect mach6412:36
echosyp_it works, just dri isn't enabled12:36
SSJ_GZNight all12:36
echosyp_i don't know what the deal is, its xubuntu though12:36
TMMlu-bao: what driver are you using?12:36
TMMechosyp_: I think this is very weird, mach64 should work, can you put the output of lspci -v on a pastebin please?12:36
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lu-baoTMM, actually no driver but i thought like in other distributions kubuntu would use vesa if no driver is installed :)12:37
echosyp_im not using that comp12:37
TMMlu-bao: well, it probably is, and vesa is dog slow :)12:37
echosyp_so one sec12:37
lu-baookay otherwise its nice that it doesnt prechoose stuff :)12:37
lu-baoTMM, on other distros i hadnt this lagging :P12:37
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TMMlu-bao: well, perhaps other distro's use other defaults for vesa :)12:37
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TMMlu-bao: perhaps it is using fbdev, or something12:38
cpk1it might be using "nv" if its an nvidia card12:38
lu-baowith my notebook (and opensource via cle266 drivers what are included while install) it hasnt this problem only on my pc :/12:38
TMMlu-bao: anyway, if you would be so kind as to paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on a pastebin, I'll take a look :)12:38
khaijeaseigo: it should def be easier to set up, but it is already integrated to an extent. having it set up by default, however would be a bad idea12:38
TMMkde probably has a context menu to do that in one go :)12:39
lu-baoTMM, mmmh i have to think about this first *lol* :> no wait until update is finished (online update) its a fresh install need update :)12:39
lu-baoTMM, no it doesnt have and im happy about i dislike these automatic stuff inside menus :)12:39
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TMMthat was actually a pun, but noone noticed :)12:39
lu-bao*g*12:40
echosyp_TMM, http://pastebin.ca/36966112:40
echosyp_thats the output of lspci12:40
lu-baomh maybe after online update it runs more fine with new xorg and new kernel :)12:40
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hiaslli cannot play mp3 files since a few days. anyone know about it? the same happens at my sisters pc. maybe a broken update?12:41
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hiaslli play with kaboodle and amarok12:42
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naught101anyone know why firefox doesn't restart in kubuntu?12:43
naught101it just shuts down and doesn't start again..12:43
lu-baoTMM, lol its like it would have only 3fps at desktop windows xD12:43
tjzcan anyone help me install flash12:44
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tjzit keeps breaking12:44
tjz?12:44
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naught101tjz: did you try automatix?12:44
_eMaX_all: if in e.g. feisty I have one program that doesn't work reliably (evolution) how would I go back to the previous version of that same program, as of edgy?12:44
tjzis that a program?12:44
_eMaX_yes12:44
_eMaX_but say, any program12:44
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echosyp_brb12:45
dbddbdhola12:45
dbddbdhello12:45
tjzit came bck blank when i searched for it12:46
tjzback*12:47
cpk1_eMaX_: aptitude place might do it12:47
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lu-baoTMM, are you still there? :)12:48
TMMyes12:48
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lu-baoTMM, http://pastebin.com/88765812:48
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echosyp_back12:48
echosyp_TMM you got anything for me12:48
lu-baoit runs in vesa at 1280x1024@60hz12:48
TMMechosyp_: I am trying to figure it out12:48
lu-baoand everything is slow as hell.... *windows to move and drawing of them*12:49
TMMvesa isn't fast12:49
echosyp_cool take your time12:49
TMMlu-bao: did you try 'radeon' ?12:49
lu-baoyeah but its slow like in "ms windows" when you move windows and havent drivers installed ^^12:49
lu-baothought vesa would be faster than that :)12:49
lu-baonope didnt try dont know if i should dont know what happens then12:50
TMMno, vesa is really slow12:50
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lu-baomh okay then i should try radeon :)12:50
lu-baohope that will work with ati x850xt at pci-express12:50
TMMI couldn't tell you12:50
TMMothwerise there might be no other solution than the closed source drivers12:50
TMMbut I personally see them as a 'last resort'12:50
ubuntuBRASIL ??12:50
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lu-baoTMM, as long it will work well and fine i dont care whats on it :)12:51
TMMlu-bao: ah, yes, you really should try and substitute 'vesa' for 'radeon', now, there is a chance that after you restart X it won't work12:51
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TMMlu-bao: now, are you capable of editing config files from the command line?12:51
tjznaught10112:51
tjz?12:51
lu-baoTMM, on suse "radeon" did work is that a good chance then?12:51
TMMif 'radeon' worked on suse, it'll work here12:52
lu-baoTMM, no i hate command lines so i use midnight commander editor ;)12:52
TMMwell, what version of suse?12:52
TMMand, what version of kubuntu?12:52
lu-baoopenSuSE10.2 32 + 64bit :)12:52
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lu-baonewest kubuntu :)12:52
semnomeis safe upgrade my kubuntu 6.06 to edgy  ???12:52
TMM6.10?12:52
lu-baofrom last weekend ^^12:52
naught101sorry tjz, yes. do a google search for automatix12:52
TMMfeisty?12:52
lu-baoTMM, downloaded last weekend at dvd12:52
naught101?automatix12:52
TMMwell, it'll probably be fine then12:52
semnomewith apt-dist upgrade ??12:53
naught101!automatix12:53
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:53
lu-baoTMM, other question do i need special modules to run "radeon" as driver?12:53
lu-baorunning now are i2c bitmap ddc dri extmod freetype glx int10 type1 and vbe12:53
semnomeapt-get dist-upgrade  ??12:54
lu-baoany other required for "radeon" as driver ? :)12:54
TMMlu-bao: well, the X server should load everything it needs itself12:54
TMMlu-bao: even then, for 2d acceleration you don't need anything special12:54
lu-baomh okay but at "closed source drivers" i needed to add some modules :)12:54
tjzok one sed12:54
TMMlu-bao: yeah, they are evil, stay away from them12:54
tjzsec*12:54
SolidSourcesemnome: what was your question?12:54
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lu-baojust asked cause for closed source i needed modifications (other modules too)12:54
lu-baoTMM, lol :> better than nothing if you want 3D ;)12:55
semnomeSolidSource: i want to upgrade my kubuntu12:55
TMMno, better to get a proper videocard :)12:55
SolidSourcesemnome: to?12:55
_eMaX_cpk1: how do you mean aptitude place12:55
semnome6.1012:55
semnomei am using 6.0612:55
lu-baoTMM, no i dont spend any more euro in computer cards or other stuff >.< *hates spending more and more money*12:55
SolidSource!dist-upgrade12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
tjznaught101: ok what do i need to download?12:56
SolidSource!distupgrade12:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:56
TMMlu-bao: well, you could have spend *less* and a get a 3d card that was supported with open-source drivers ;)12:56
lu-baoTMM, my comp has amd64 3200+ with ati x850xt and 2gb dualchannel ddr1 with 570gb harddisc12:56
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tjz?12:56
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semnomei need change de source in file /etc/apt/source.list ?12:57
lu-baoTMM, yeah i could when i had use "linux" longer and wasnt on windows when i bought my card and best would be when i didnt saw that ati had much more pixel pipelines and other things for same money than nvidia had X.x12:57
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naught101tjz: read the automatix webpage - web search it12:57
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SolidSourcesemnome: yes, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052 follow method 212:57
tjzok12:57
TMMwell, I buy my gear on 'is it supported by open source drivers' THEN I look at speed :)12:57
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semnomethanks12:57
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SolidSourcesemnome: changing gedit to kate of course12:58
TMMI buy the fastest stuff that's available with GPL'd drivers basically :) not the fastest stuff :)12:58
lu-baoTMM, i didnt care for "opensource operating systems" when i used windows before :P12:58
tjzhttp://www.aamatrix.com/   is this it?12:58
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SolidSourcetjz: automatix = www.getautomatix.com12:58
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TMMlu-bao: no, but now you are using an open-source operating system, and, before you know it, you WILL care :)12:59
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lucagood day - does this channel provide some support for kopete? :-)12:59
TMMlu-bao: go read the gnu manifesto :)12:59
lu-baoTMM, i just took opensource and then i saw "damn it doesnt run well" and then i cared before i didnt so dont judge me XD12:59
TMMlu-bao: I'm not judging!!! I'm trying to educate01:00
semnomeSolidSource: i will have no problems with all programs and drivers that i have installed in this machine ??01:00
lu-baoTMM, when you was small i bet you used windows too so you know how i was thinking when i was small :)01:00
lu-baoTMM, okay then i missunderstood your sentences happens sometimes im sorry for that :)01:00
tjznaught101: i gotConnection to host www.getautomatix.com is broken.01:00
lucahas anyone problems using kopete to talk with jabber contacts?01:00
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SolidSourcesemnome: you may have problems if any 3rd party software is installed, or may not...its about 50-50 chance01:01
semnomeSolidSource: thanks01:01
SolidSourcetjz: yes its down01:01
lu-baoTMM, nice this windows lagging isnt anymore :>01:01
tjznaught101: ok01:01
lu-baoTMM, thank you very much :) *hugs*01:01
tjzthen wat do i do now?01:02
TMMlu-bao: I used windows 95, I bought it, I was happy for all of 1 week when the fat16 partition it lived on horribly ate itself, then Is withced to linux :)01:02
SolidSourcetjz: what are you trying to do exactly?01:02
TMMlu-bao: ext2 also ate data back then from time to time, but at least it was fun :)01:03
tjzinstall flash to watch videos online01:03
lu-baoTMM, lol when windows 95 was out linux was there too? i thought linux came later when "linus torwald" was angry about windows and wrote its own kernel :>01:03
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tjzi tried to do it through adept nut it keeps breaking01:03
tjzbut*01:04
TMMlu-bao: no, linus torvalds wasn't angry about anything, he just wanted unix on his 386, and learn all about this affordable 32bit processor01:04
lu-baowhen i was young i really didnt care for freedom or other stuff at pcs a computer only was a tool for me i booted it and used programs nothing more :)01:04
TMMlu-bao: the open-source movement is way older than microsoft is01:04
SolidSourcetjz: ok, you running 32bit or 64bit?01:04
tjz6401:04
tjzi believe...01:04
lu-baoTMM, um open-source before microsoft? o.o" but please tell me whats before microsoft? before microsoft i cant remember that there were any good computers out ^^"01:05
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SolidSourcetjz: in konsole type "uname -r"01:05
tjzthis is a friends computer01:05
lu-baoi can be wrong but i dont know :)01:05
BluesKajdoes anyone know of a local area network browser (not komba or smb4k) that is relatively stable ?01:05
tjz2.6.15-26-386---i got this01:06
TMMlu-bao: before, when men where men and wrote their OWN device drivers, all software was open source01:06
SolidSourcetjz: 32bit01:06
tjzok01:06
TMMlu-bao: then, the proprietary unixes came, and they were closed source, THAT is when open-source began01:06
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TMMlu-bao: microsoft and the home-computers took another 5 years to even begin to exist01:06
tjzok so now what?01:06
BluesKajsmb4k and komba2 are really buggy on my system ...they work ok for a while and then they begin to freeze and become unresponsive01:06
lu-baoTMM, o.o own device drivers ? ah i see um but why do you say when men were men ? :) today its still the same but most dont have nerves to spend lifetime for computers that much :>01:07
SolidSourcetjz: ok, what have you tried to do so far?01:07
jesushola alguien me alluda?01:07
TMMlol, you missed the point :)01:07
TMMthe device driver thing was a joke, there rest wasn't :)01:07
lu-baoTMM, yeah i know what you mean i just wanted to point at this saying from you :p01:07
lu-baoah i see XD01:07
tjzright click it on adept and request install but it keeps breaking01:07
lu-baoomfg lol and i thought i would be true that they made them  XD01:07
lu-baoomfg dont joke me *lol*01:08
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echosyp_brb01:08
SolidSourcetjz: in konsole type "dpkg --configure -a"01:08
SolidSourcetjz: in konsole type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"01:08
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TMMlu-bao: well, men made device drivers :)01:08
lu-baoTMM, sorry i meaned "i thought you would be true with that they made theyr own drivers" :>01:08
tjzsolidsource: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process01:08
SolidSourcetjz: you have to close out of adept first01:09
lu-baoTMM, girls too :P one girl made one of the first computers :)01:09
TMMyes01:09
lu-baookay not same as todays computers but it still was one :>01:09
tjzsolidsource: ok and now what?01:09
TMMbut, do not think, for a minute, that the open-source movement is an anti-microsoft thing. Destroying microsoft is only a pleasurable side-effect :)01:10
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SolidSourcetjz: ok, what did "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?01:10
TMMit's about freedom, and it is about being able to do whatever the fuck you want with your 2000 dollar piece of equipment01:10
tjzsolidsource: just drop me down another line01:10
tjzsolidsource:it did nothing01:11
SolidSourcetjz: it did, just had nothing to tell you01:11
lu-baoTMM, no its not you can say what you want but they didnt made only bad things :P01:12
TMMechosyp_: sorry, I can't really find anything about your r128 problem :(01:12
tjzsolidsource: yea01:12
tjzsolidsource:it says tjz@tjz-desktop:~$01:12
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lu-baoTMM, okay i have a big problem ._.01:12
roc364hello all! i got a question about the kernel source01:13
TMMlu-bao: perhaps not, but their filosophy is bad, they got to the point they are now, mostly by making sure they are an end-point of information. it WAS really easy to import stuff into microsoft software, but impossible to export from it, and the customer, the person who payed, is screwed01:13
SolidSourcetjz: ok, what package were you trying to install in adept?01:13
lu-baoTMM,  with kaffeine i can see tv but i cant hear sound while watching :(01:13
lu-baoTMM, mh yes but you can choose what to use so youre not forced to use theyr stuff :)01:14
lu-baoat kde start i can hear this jingle but i cant hear sound while watching tv in kaffeine :/01:14
TMMlu-bao: if you chose to use their software then, you are now forced to use it, becuase their software is the only way to access your data01:15
TMMlu-bao: or your programs, or your games01:15
tjzsolidsource: flash plugin non-free] 01:15
lu-baoTMM, mhh but there are alot free prorgams out so i can choose them and my games i can run at linux too :) (fangroup installers)01:16
SolidSourcetjz: ok, lets do "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" so if anything goes wrong it will give some info01:16
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TMMlu-bao: you can NOW because of countless hours of work put in by volounteers to make this possible, the micosoft documentation isn't near good enought to make any of that possible01:16
tjzsolidsource: Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 01:17
TMMand then, if something doesn't work PERFECTLY they turn around and blame that 'crappy linux' that isn't compatible with anything01:17
SolidSourcetjz: yes01:17
roc364anyone help me wich package to install kernel sources?01:17
lu-baoTMM, i know that theyre like stupid little childs who think to play god dont try to show me this i know it allready :)01:17
tjzsolidsource:01:18
tjzo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.01:18
tjz0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:18
tjzNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.01:18
tjzy/n/?01:18
Jucato!pastebin | tjz01:18
ubotutjz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:18
SolidSourcetjz: umm right01:18
tjz..what?01:19
lu-baoi really hope one day every factory of hardware will get forced to give out opensource drivers but i think this never will happen since world is evil and good things have mostly no chance :( money wins *sad*01:19
TMMlu-bao: well, that is why I think that everything they ever did *is* bad, perhaps not always technological (but if it isn't bad, it is RECENT, becuase in the past all their software WAS crap) but idealogical it has always been despicable. I wouldn't drive car that was assembled by slaves who work 20 hours a day, I won't give money to closed-source software vendors01:19
TMMyes, I am a zealot01:19
TMMno, I don't care :)01:19
TMMyes, I am right :P01:19
lu-baoTMM, xD01:20
tjzsolidsource: brb                  if u dont want 2 wait u cam e mail instrucyions to gothdude999666@hotmail.com01:20
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lu-baoTMM, now give me a solution :)01:20
SolidSourcetjz: ok, "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" instead01:20
echosyp_TMM, get anything figured out?01:20
TMMlu-bao: you probably need a loopback cable from your tv-tuner card to the line-in of your soundcard01:21
lu-baoi can see video through kaffeine (dvb-t with hauppauge nova-t pci conexxant chipset) fine but i cant hear sound but at start i can hear sound01:21
SolidSourcetjz: no we are just trying to find out why it isn't installing01:21
lu-baoTMM, um nope i dont think so O.o lol xD this method is really stoneage like :> todays dvb-t cards dont have a loopback cable :) no need anymore :)01:22
TMMechosyp_: I'm searching, but I can't really find anything, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?01:22
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VonKrolokHi guys01:22
lu-baoTMM, me?01:22
TMMlu-bao: well, I've got a medieval tv-tuner01:22
VonKrolokforgot to thank hyper who helped me today01:22
VonKrolokI needed some moer info01:22
TMMlu-bao: in that case it is probably just some dial on alsa that is not turned on01:23
VonKrolokI was suggested to download the non-LiveCD version of Kubuntu instead of the Live one01:23
TMMlu-bao: try and start alsamixer on the command line while playing tv01:23
lu-baoTMM, my tv card directly sends audio to soundcard (what is onboard ac97 through nvidia ck804 nforce4 ultra chipset onboard sound)01:23
TMMthen just toggle all the buttons :)01:23
VonKrolokbut going on Kubuntu.org01:23
VonKrolokI can only find 1 version of it and I know being LiveCD01:23
TMMI believe there even is alsamixergui01:23
VonKrolokhow does that work?01:23
lu-baoTMM, woah they changed alot o.o alsamixer (shell version) looks cool now01:24
TMMprogress!!01:24
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SkullerHey guys i am badly screwed....i just tried gettin beryl to work for the first time.....followed all the procedures on http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL and also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy.....after everything when it asked me to restart the X i pressed ctrl + alt + bckspc and there was a blank screen with a blinkin cursor on it and when i rebooted into kubunt01:25
Skullerscreen and a console comes asking me for my UN and PW and it stays in the terminal kind of environment.....what can i do now?01:25
TMMaseigo: I've decided to keep KDE for at least a week, kontact seems to finally want to talk to groupwise, and stop segfaulting, so, I might actually be able to work :)01:25
SolidSourceSkuller: X got screwed up "sudo --configure xserver-xorg"01:26
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VonKrolokIs there anyone knowing where can I get a non-LiveCD version of Ubuntu/kubuntu?01:27
eri_82hi everyone01:27
TMMaseigo: one thing I really do NOT like though, the fact that 90% of KDE apps seem to think that they are way to important to quit, and prefer to hang around on the taskbar, requiring me to click 4 times to actually quit an app01:27
SolidSourcetjz: if you want: follow these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Add-On_Applications01:27
lu-baoTMM, could following work? (use newest wine version to install tv-card drivers through setup and to setup software to play it too then run and use it)  ??01:28
JucatoTMM: Ctrl+Q01:28
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TMMespecially that 'are you sure you want to quit me, really sure?' dialog you get after you went out of your WAY to right-click the icon :)01:28
TMMJucato: that actually quits?01:28
TMMlu-bao: NO01:28
JucatoTMM: yes. so does File -> Quit (2 clicks)01:28
TMMlu-bao: also, you won't need it01:28
eri_82can anyone help me on installin kubuntu?????? i;m hsving problems.01:28
TMMJucato: so, it is just the cross in the top-right corner that is broken?01:28
eri_82can anyone help me on installin kubuntu?????? i;m hsving problems.01:28
SkullerSolidSource: ok i'll try that once i reboot.....is there anything else that could be rong or am i screwed bigtime?01:28
eri_82can anyone help me on installin kubuntu?????? i'm having problems.01:29
Skuller!repeat | eri_8201:29
JucatoTMM: no. it's not "broken". that happens only for apps that have system tray icons01:29
ubotueri_82: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:29
eri_82ubotu ;)01:29
TMMJucato: which is almost every app except for kcalculator :)01:29
JucatoTMM: think of it this way, you're not closing the app, you're just closing the window with the X01:30
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aseigoTMM: taskbar or system tray? if system tray then how about actually quiting rather than closing the window01:30
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SolidSourceSkuller: don't know, but when that happened to me I had to use the"nv" driver instead of the "nvidia" driver to get back up and running01:30
TMMJucato: which isn't true for other apps01:30
aseigoTMM: and you can turn off the system tray in pretty much every app that provides one01:30
TMMaseigo: err, the icons in the bottom right01:30
aseigoTMM: yeah, system tray01:30
lu-baoTMM, did that still no sound :(01:30
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TMMaseigo: I really don't want to tell every app that when I tell it to go away, I really WANT it to go away01:30
lu-baoi have videostream but no audiostream :/01:31
eri_82the installation freezes01:31
aseigoTMM: the "are you sure" is because stupid people kept clicking on those icons and hitting "quit" accidently, closing apps ... resulting in weekly bug reports01:31
JucatoTMM: in other apps that don't have system tray icons, you closing the window closes the app, because there's no system tray process for it.01:31
aseigoTMM: so select Quit rather than Close01:31
JucatoTMM: you can turn off that "are you sure" dialog box01:31
SkullerSolidSource: if u mean puttin 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' in my xorg file then it was already nvidia las time i went in it to add some stuff for aiglx01:31
JucatoTMM: next time it appears, check the "Don't tell me this again"01:31
TMMJucato: so I actually have to look in the bottom right after each Icon I click to make sure if the app has a bloody icon there to decypher the meaning of the cross in the top right corner of the screen?01:31
TMMJucato: once for EACH app01:32
SolidSourceSkuller: no, when I installed beryl I had to revert back to "nv"01:32
TMMaseigo: that 'are you sure' thing is just an abomination :)01:32
aseigoTMM: if you don't like the system tray icons (and the apps that have them usually have them for a reason; document centric apps tend not to for instance) turn them off01:32
aseigoTMM: yeah, tell that to the people who kept quitting their apps.01:32
SkullerSolidSource: ohh....but wudnt that cause ne probs with my nvidia driver?01:32
TMMwhere do I turn them all off? :)01:32
aseigoTMM: Settings -> Configure <app>01:33
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SolidSourceSkuller: no01:33
JucatoTMM: the app's settngs01:33
TMMaseigo: for each app :)01:33
aseigoTMM: which apps, btw?01:33
TMMkonversation, amarok,01:33
Jucatoyes for each app *that has a system tray icon*. and *not all KDE apps* have system tray icons01:33
TMMand there were one or two more that really annoyed me01:33
Jucatoit just so happens that the ones you use have them on by default (in Kubuntu)01:34
TMMwhy does konversation need a system tray? why does amarok need one?01:34
TMMI suppose01:34
SolidSourceSkuller: but I never got beryl to work since "nv" doesn't have openGL capabilities and it kept crashing xserver when using "nvidia" driver01:34
Jucatonot everyone likes to have windows opened all the time01:34
TMMperhaps I'm trying to hard to find things I don't like, but it really annoyed me that it bothered me twice about closing itself01:34
aseigoTMM: because most people like to play their music without having to keep a window around. konversation w/irc is a slightly more dubious thing01:34
TMMaseigo: what's wrong with the application tray thingy01:35
TMMyou can minimize apps can't you?01:35
SkullerSolidSource: ohh damn....u mean to say i wont b able to use beryl at any cost?01:35
VonKrolok#kubuntu-it01:35
aseigoTMM: it's for people like you that we make things configurable.01:35
SolidSourceSkuller: you can probably find a way to get to work, but that was my experience01:36
aseigoTMM: the other N million users tend not to agree of every little thing like this01:36
JucatoTMM: there are certain actions that you can't perform on the app while minimized unless you right-click on the systray icon. the system tray icon is also used for notification, in the case of Konversation for example01:36
aseigoTMM: so if i say, "yes, you're right" i get to hear it from the % that see it another way. so convincing me is not going to hapen. =)01:36
SkullerSolidSource: *sniff sniff*..:'(.....ok man....thanx fer da help on the X...i'll leave beryl matter alone01:36
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eri_82can't install kubuntu. installation stops at step 5/6  pls help01:36
Gtwyhttp://gtwy.net/vhosts.txt what's wrong with this01:37
TMMaseigo: ow yes, you are a KDE hotshot aren't you? :)01:37
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eri_82can't install kubuntu. installation stops(freeze) at step 5/6  pls help01:37
SolidSourceSkuller: personally I think I would just wait till April for Feisty, cause it seems that beryl is supposed to work in it better...starting to think beryl doesn't work because of a bug in the kernel01:37
Gtwyeri_82: what is step 5 of 601:37
eri_82partition check Gtwy01:37
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SkullerSolidSource: ohh....yea then i will to...thank you very much01:38
Gtwyeri_82: are you dual booting?01:38
eri_82iyes01:38
Gtwywindows is already installed?01:38
eri_82yes01:38
eri_82but i had ubuntu and it worked fine ubuntu01:38
Gtwyyou should have a block for windows. then a block for swap space. then the rest of the drive should be /01:38
SolidSourceSkuller: yeah, read an article about how 2.6.2 kernel has a major fix with video drivers...and thats the kernel in feisty01:39
Gtwyswap's filesystem is "swap" and / should be "ext3"01:39
eri_82yes01:39
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Gtwyare you trying to mount your ntfs drive?01:39
eri_82no01:40
TMMbut, will I have to configure every app to stop it annoying me and ask for cookies?01:40
Skullersolidsource: k..das cool...thanx man01:40
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eri_82Gtwy the partitions are01:40
eri_82c: ntfs d: fat32 1 ext3 and 1 swap01:40
eri_82when d was ntfs qparted crashes01:41
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eri_82Gtwy are you there ?01:42
lu-baokubuntu only uses 92mb ? o.o"""""01:43
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Gtwywhy do you have d: fat3201:43
_eMaX_re01:44
dawnok how does one netowrk linux machines like they do with workgroups in windoze?01:44
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_eMaX_anyone running edgy here?01:44
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dawni am01:44
eri_82Gtwy when it was ntfs qparted crashed01:44
_eMaX_dawn: can you find out which version of evolution would be installed on edgy?01:44
Gtwyqparted?01:44
dawnummm01:44
_eMaX_dawn: like, adept_manager or so01:45
BluesKajuse GParted live cd , more stable , easier to use01:45
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dawneMAX: look under adept manager01:45
dawnI dont know the current version01:45
_eMaX_dawn: on feisty, it is 2.9.91, and it seems to be particularly buggy in that whenever I select a mail, it crashes01:45
dawnI prefer to use Thunderbird01:45
_eMaX_so I want to find out how I can downgrade01:45
dawnhmmm01:45
_eMaX_dawn: yes sure - yet it has no exchange connector01:45
dawnI have been trying to get thunderbird working w/ Exchange01:46
_eMaX_and???01:46
dawnto no avail of course01:46
_eMaX_sigh*01:46
dawn1-3 hrs a week01:46
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dawnI do have thunder working with hotmail and exchange01:46
dawn:)01:46
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dawnooops01:46
eri_83Gtwy i'm back01:46
dawnI meant gmail, NOT exchange01:47
dawnlol01:47
eri_83eri_82 is a ghost :)01:47
dawnBOO] 01:47
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dawneMAx there are ppl that have said that they got Thunderbird working w/ Exchange01:47
Gtwyqparted?01:47
Gtwyeri_83: qparterd?01:48
Gtwyi cant type01:48
dawnI just not been able to figure it out01:48
eri_83yes01:48
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eri_83Gtwy what's the problem with d: fat3201:48
dawneMAX goto the evolution website01:48
dawnand look fopr a previous version01:48
Adydasthunder works with ms exchanve?01:49
Gtwyfat is garbage01:49
eri_83yea i know01:49
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dawnAdydas: so I have read01:50
Gtwyin windows01:50
eri_83:(01:50
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Gtwyconvert c: /ntfs01:50
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Gtwyi think that does it01:50
Gtwyer01:50
Gtwyd: in your case01:50
Gtwyi dont know why your system isnt working01:50
eri_83but c: is ntfs01:50
eri_83only d is fat3201:50
Gtwysee above.01:50
dawnisn't fat32 recognized by NTFS?01:50
dawnbut it has a 4Gb limitation01:51
eri_83ok thanks anyway01:51
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_eMaX_dawn I am trying to do that and compile a previous version01:53
dawnemAX: ok01:53
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_eMaX_dawn: breaks at libedataserver/e-categories.h: No such file or directory01:54
dawni dont know what that means..01:54
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BubblemanxAny one know how i can get the screen resoluion bigger on Kubuntu the only one in Display in system settings is 640x48001:57
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Adydasinstalled vidcard driers?01:58
Adydasdriers?01:58
Adydasdrivers fsf01:58
TMMechosyp_: did you paste that logfile?01:58
BluesKajBubblemanx, is Kubuntu installed already or are you using the live cd ?01:58
Bubblemanxits installed.01:59
TMMalso, why in the hell does amarok integrate with konqueror? :)02:00
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BluesKajok , open system settings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode02:00
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BluesKajBubblemanx, then go back and reset the slider to the resolution you want and then click appy02:01
BubblemanxHmmm dont see monitor&display02:01
Bubblemanxi just see display02:02
BluesKajit's apic of a crt monitor02:02
n4chtBluesKaj, that's the one.02:02
n4chtwhat version of kde are you running?02:02
Bubblemanx6.0602:02
n4chtuh..02:02
n4chtkde.  not ubuntu.  lol.02:03
BluesKajthats kubuntu dapper02:03
BubblemanxO.o02:03
n4chtright.  but KDE is the desktop environment.   right click on the panel and goto help->about kde02:03
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BluesKajanyway the moves are the same ... click on hardware , then admin mode ...once you have admin permission you can set the resolution slider and apply02:05
Bubblemanxhow do u get into admin mode02:05
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BluesKajahh it's prolly hidden under the panel02:05
BluesKajright click on the panel and make as small as possible so you can see the buttons02:06
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BluesKaji had the same problem02:06
Bubblemanxoh i see admin mode02:06
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b0rthello world !02:07
b0rt=P02:07
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BluesKajthis is a real oversight setting the defaulr settings so that access to changing res is difficult02:07
b0rti need some02:07
b0nnHi, Im having trouble mounting an iPod shuffle, that was previously mounting fine.02:07
Bubblemanxthe slider still only has one opion which is 640x48002:07
b0rti need some help with emerald02:07
BluesKajdid admin mode ask for your pw?02:08
b0rtwindows bordes just dont appear so i cant move or manage windows with mouse02:08
Bubblemanxyeah it asked for pass02:08
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Jucato!beryl | b0rt02:09
ubotub0rt: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:09
BluesKajsize orienting and position isn't available ?02:09
Hrontoreokay so i dl the tremulous installer, but nothing popped up after, how do i install the app?02:09
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soulriderhi :)02:10
Bubblemanxit is it just wont let me change it02:10
b0rtubotu: beryl is working really nice on aiglx, but emerald seems to have some problems to load windows decorations02:10
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Jucato!ubotu | b0rt02:10
ubotub0rt: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:10
Skullerhey guys...i tried installing beryl and screwed up big time...the X doesnt start n everytime i boot into kubuntu i end up in a terminal environment...what can i do now?02:10
soulriderb0rt: ubotu is a bot02:10
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soulriderdont wotlk to him02:10
b0rti just noticed =.=02:11
soulriderSkuller: try "sudo aptitude purge beryl"02:11
soulriderSkuller: and then reconfigure X02:11
BluesKajok bubblemax , what graphics card ?02:11
Skulleri am a newbie who was in greed of beryl....so if you could explain the configuring part of xorg again02:11
BluesKajerr Bubblemanx02:11
Skullersoulrider: i am a newbie who was in greed of beryl....so if you could explain the configuring part of xorg again02:11
soulrider!xorg02:11
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:11
soulriderSkuller: no worries, i can help you all you need02:12
Skullersoulrider: cool....coz i am reali depressed rite now coz of the stuck up in kubun02:12
b0rtsoulrider, what about a full working beryl, but no window borders or decorations?02:12
soulriderSkuller: happened to all of us at first02:12
soulriderb0rt: make sure that the decoration plugis in loaded, if it is right click int he beryl icon and then restart window decorator02:13
b0rtsoulrider: already tried02:14
BluesKajBubblemanx, you may have to reset the drivers for you graphics card , it 'll be listed in hardware and you can setup the right drivers for it in admin mode first , then you should be able to reset your resolution02:14
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soulriderb0rt: what did you tru? restarting the window decorator ?02:14
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TMMaseigo: ok, konq plugin installer rocks02:14
TMMaseigo: it actually works :)02:15
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Bubblemanxok il try that02:15
b0rtsoulrider: yep ^^U02:15
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b0rtwhere do i check about plugins?02:16
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soulriderb0rt: go tot he settings02:16
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Skullersoulrider: hmm...for just for a background info....i used the instructions at http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL and also at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy.....in the first webpage i even did the part where i ave to setup two diff logon sumthing sumthin...the standard X and a diff X for runnin beryl on it......i followed all the instructions to the best i cud and 02:16
Skullerended up with a crash and at a reboot now i get into the terminal environment02:16
b0rtsoulrider, emerald manager?02:16
soulriderb0rt: then visual effects, make sure window decoration is checked02:16
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b0rtsoulrider: i put it on, decorations appear for a nanosec and then back to no-border windows02:18
soulriderSkuller: i suggest you do "sudo aptitude purge beryl" and then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:18
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soulriderb0rt: interesting, if i were you i would try switching the themes a few times, if that fails id reinstall beryl02:19
soulrideri cannot offer you further help though, i suggets you ask in the effects channel02:19
soulrider!beryl | b0rt02:19
ubotub0rt: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:19
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Skullersoulrider: ok i'll do that now....just another query....should i install beryl on kubun edgy even tho it causes so much problems.....or better yet...will it even work for me?...am using nvidia gpu btw02:19
b0rtthanks a lot skuller02:20
alan__HOLA02:20
soulriderSkuller: i have an nvidia card in edgy and it works well, but mind you, beryl is kinda useless... just eye candy02:20
soulriderhol alan__02:20
soulrider!es | alan__02:20
ubotualan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:20
alan__Aqu hablan espaol?02:20
alan__:)02:20
Skullerb0rt:?...thnx fer wat?02:20
Skullersoulrider: yea i lurve eye candy nevaiz.....02:20
unix_infideli always forget when people mean hola in espanol and HOLLA in ebonics :)02:21
soulriderSkuller: i got beryl but i deactivated most stuff02:21
soulrideri like some effects, but they have to be discreet :)02:21
Skullersoulrider: n whys that?....ok well if i manage to get bak in kubun then i'll ask for ur help again to get beryl working...is that alrite man?02:21
soulridersure, the cannel if to ask for help02:22
BubblemanxHmmm its not letting me get screen ress bigger02:22
alan__Can you help me to INSTAL NIL?02:22
alan__I downloaded it from:02:22
alan__http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=994&package_id=987&release_id=33215202:22
BubblemanxDo i need to install the display drivers first?02:22
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alan__But i dunno how can i install it :(02:22
soulriderBubblemanx: you shoudlnt need to02:22
soulrider!xorg | Bubblemanx02:22
ubotuBubblemanx: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:22
Bubblemanxin console?02:23
soulrideralan__: isnt NIL in the repos ?02:23
alan__No02:23
alan__Is not.02:23
alan__:(02:23
alan__Well... do you have some one that have it?02:24
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Sekaabgood night02:24
soulrideralan__: i would suggets looking for a deb file, but im gonna try and compile it for you02:24
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alan__ok, thaks :)02:24
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alan__:)02:26
paul_???02:27
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alan__im waiting... :)02:27
paul_What for?02:27
alan__Help to instal NIL02:27
alan__:D02:27
tyger_sp_brhey guys... how can I join another server?02:28
alan__I love that game.02:28
paul_What is NIL?02:28
alan__http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=994&package_id=987&release_id=33215202:28
tyger_sp_brI'm looking for irc.highway.net02:28
alan__That: http://alts.homelinux.net/shots/643-0.jpg02:28
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paul_Looks quite old...02:30
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soulrideralan__: im compiling02:31
soulriderhold on02:31
TMMabout:mozilla just refers to about:konqueror on konqueror, that's a bit of a let-down :)02:33
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alan__:O02:33
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soulrideralan__: i cant compile it, i guess we should look for a deb package02:34
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paul_That NIL does not compile. Even configure failed. Do I have to setup the complete gcc-stuff on a fresh kubuntu?02:35
alan__??02:36
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alan__i cant find a .deb :(02:36
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paul_I only wanted to try the compiler/installation. It sees that i don't have a g++ installed (seems that a link is missing)02:37
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alan__install it from repo.02:37
b0rtpaul_: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:38
paul_Is that not installed by default? Downloaded this distro today...02:39
b0rtnop by default anymore i think02:39
alan__can i do   ./Makefile ??02:39
alan__i did ./configure02:39
alan__and that work02:40
paul_What should ./makefile do?02:40
alan__i dont know02:40
alan__but i did ./configure02:40
alan__and that created some "Makefile".02:40
paul_than type make?02:40
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alan__make: *** [nil]  Error 202:41
pirothezeromake install?02:41
alan__make: *** [nil]  Error 202:41
alan__make: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `install'.  Alto.02:41
alan__Sorry, spanish02:41
soulrideralan__: apparently its in the repos =./02:42
soulriderhold on02:42
paul_is there a dep for libSDL?02:42
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alan__are you sure?02:42
soulrideruhm02:42
soulriderno02:42
alan__lol02:42
soulriderpaul_: think not, but install it from the repos02:42
BluesKaj!es02:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:43
alan__what repos?02:43
b0rtalan install autotools02:43
alan__ok02:43
paul_when you speek about repository, what exactly do you mean?02:43
alan__did it! :)02:43
angasule!es02:44
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:44
b0rtpaul a repository is a hosting of programs, libraries and such, where u can download from02:44
b0rtalan funciona?02:44
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alan__luego de autotools, qu?02:44
alan__then autotools, what?02:44
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angasule!upgrade02:45
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:45
soulrideralan__: send the deb to me please :P02:45
alan__i dont have it, soul02:45
soulrider=/ didnt you just compile it ?02:45
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alan__no, i said i installed "autotools".02:45
soulrideroh02:45
alan__then, what? :(02:46
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pirothezerodoes anyone else have issues with firefox closing randomly when you are doing stuff 2.0.0.1?02:47
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shulmanpirothezero: I haven't seen it happen on mine02:49
BluesKajonce in a while , not often pirothezero02:49
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tarelerulzHow do you tell if you have samba sever installed on your systsm?02:49
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shulmantarelerulz: the simplest way is to open up adept and type in samba and see if it comes back as installed02:50
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BluesKaji dumped the vlc plugin in FF , it was overriding the totem and mplayer plugins on sites that used windows media02:50
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shulman(although that doesn't mean it's configured correctly)02:50
paul_This NIL-code is buggy? T02:50
b0rtwell, a really weird problem here, using a usb keyboard, all fine, but when halting system, it doesnt recognize enter to finish the poweroff02:51
b0rtand i have to press power before it loads out02:51
b0rtany idea how to make it work?02:51
shulmanhas anyone noticed digg.com specifically is very slow on all versions of firefox on kubuntu dapper and edgy?02:51
alan__hey02:51
alan__i need "libSDL"02:51
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alan__but i found too much in repos.02:51
alan__what is what i need?02:52
paul_all!02:52
b0rtLoL02:52
paul_really!02:52
b0rtlook at your dev tool what ask for02:52
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alan__:O02:52
paul_but that does not compile...02:52
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paul_I fixed that, but now it does not link02:53
b0rtpaul que carajo te pasa02:53
paul_nice code :)02:53
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paul_b0rt versteht das hoffentlich auch?02:53
b0rtpaul_:  fateko mesota perone jonta?02:54
jp_Hey gang.  New to Kubuntu.  I installed it over my gnome.  But my "Keyboard Layout" in Regional & Language doesn't have any keyboard models listed.  Any ideas?02:54
BluesKajok, Edgy comes with IPv6 as the default for browsers like FF . Here's a fix to speed things up :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv402:54
b0rtanyone: how to fix the usb keyboard problem on halt?02:54
jp_In Gnome I could just tell it I had a 102 key kb or whatever, but nothing listed in KDE02:55
BluesKajjp_, in system settings try the keyboard and mouse section02:55
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AxlRosefor some reason X is using 20% CPU and I can't figure out why02:56
AxlRoseI don't think I've changed anytihng recently02:57
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b0rtjp_ could it be that cdrom is damaged?02:57
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jp_BluesKaj: Nothing there.  I know I'm supposed to be able to choose a keyboard model in regional & language, but nothing's in the dropdown02:57
b0rtAxlRose: look what process is compsuming that02:57
jp_My Ubuntu install was fine.  Just did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and that's where I am now02:58
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b0rtic, maybe u needed to install more things with that02:58
SlackRatis it just me, or is freenode a bit  stormy tonite....?02:58
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b0rti need a fix for usb keyboards =S02:59
AxlRoseb0rt:  usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-QWGdSx02:59
b0rti destroy installation after reboot02:59
b0rthuh, whats that AxlRose?03:00
AxlRoseb0rtL thats whats consuming the 20+% cpu03:00
b0rtAxlRose: im not xpert, is that the X itself?03:01
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AxlRoseb0rt: yes03:02
roc364hi, anyone with lirc running?03:03
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Skullersoulrider: hey man....thnx a lot...the X is now up n running....and if i type the beryl manager runs too and beryl is working....but it gives an error....sumfin to do with pixmap03:03
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AxlRoseso is there anyone on that can help with high cpu usage by X03:05
Adydasapt-get remove x :P no, sorry just in one of those moods03:07
Adydasisnt there some program you can use to monitor that better03:07
Adydaswhowatch03:07
Adydasnope thats users03:08
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Heavenquakewhere is kde and qt placed in kubuntu?03:09
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JucatoHeavenquake: what do you mean?03:09
alan__PROBLEM!!!!03:09
vasHey i'm running Kubuntu, In System Settings > Accesability > Keyboard Shortcuts..I can change it so I can go up a Desktop or Down a desktop by like Win + Tab and Win + Tab + Shift but how do I have it like Win + Up a scroll03:09
alan__Compiling client/fonts/font_instance.cpp : Creation failed :03:09
alan__client/fonts/font_instance.cpp: In member function bool Font_instance::load(Loader*, char*, int32):03:09
alan__client/fonts/font_instance.cpp:71: error: TTF_OpenFontRW no se declar en este mbito03:09
alan__make[1] : *** [client/fonts/font_instance.o]  Error 103:09
alan__make[1] : se sale del directorio `/home/alan/Desktop/nil/src'03:09
alan__make: *** [nil]  Error 203:09
Jucato!pastebin | alan__03:09
ubotualan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:09
HeavenquakeJucato: I am doing this: http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3.4/branches_compiling.html (compiling the stuff from source), and need to know the stuff it wants me to "export" in step 403:10
paul_hey alan__ i told you its bad. i managed to compile and link but was a mess03:10
[rolamoto] does anyone know how to install Kubuntu 7.04 herd 4 from terminak?03:10
[rolamoto] terminal*03:10
alan__:'(03:12
paul_is there a server?03:12
paul_for NIL?03:12
JucatoHeavenquake: ok just a sec03:13
tarelerulzI used  adept and installed firefox and when I try to run it from the menue it does nothing03:14
tarelerulzanyone else having that happen03:14
Heavenquaketarelerulz: try running it in a terminal03:15
[rolamoto] is there even a way to get Feisty without burning a CD?03:15
JucatoHeavenquake: KDEDIR is /usr not sure about QTDIR03:15
Heavenquake /usr/lib/kde3 or?03:15
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tarelerulznothing happen when I run it from terminal either03:16
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Heavenquaketarelerulz: error messages?03:17
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paul_NIL really crash my linux...03:17
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JucatoHeavenquake: no. KDEDIR is /usr. you can check with "kde-config --prefix"03:18
DonMCNCan somebody tell me how to uninstall Wine in the terminal?03:18
JucatoDonMCN: sudo apt-get remove wine03:18
tarelerulzYou should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.03:18
tarelerulzAnyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.03:18
tarelerulzXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server03:18
tarelerulzXlib: No protocol specified03:18
tarelerulzYou should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.03:18
tarelerulzAnyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.03:18
tarelerulzXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server03:18
tarelerulzXlib: No protocol specified03:18
tarelerulzmy bad03:19
DonMCNthank you03:19
HymnToLifetarelerulz, use kdesu to run firefox03:19
HymnToLifeor gksudo if you're using gnome03:19
Jucatoer?03:19
HeavenquakeJucato: okay. How could I find out with qt?03:19
soulriderSkuller: im glad you could fix xorg, but you cant run beryl yeah ?03:19
Jucatotarelerulz: are you trying to launch it in a root prompt?03:19
tarelerulzI did it the other way and notthing03:19
tarelerulznot evern an error03:19
JucatoHeavenquake: not really sure... I'm presuming it's /usr too03:20
Skullerwell....i ran beryl manager....the part where it checks the things it passes all except da pixmap thingy03:20
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sidnelsonhow disable sudo ?? is just editing /etc/sudoers or visudo :)03:20
Skullersoulrider: well....i ran beryl manager....the part where it checks the things it passes all except da pixmap thingy03:20
DonMCNCan somebody tell me how to set Sun Java 6 as the default Java player in the Konsole?03:20
Jucato!sudo | sidnelson03:20
ubotusidnelson: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:20
JucatoDonMCN: sudo update-alternatives --config java03:21
HymnToLifesidnelson, visudo just open /etc/sudoers in a text editor03:21
HeavenquakeJucato: okay.. what should I write in KDEVELOPDIR ?03:21
soulriderSkuller: sorry, but i cant help you there :(03:21
sidnelsonubotu: thanks03:21
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)03:21
tarelerulzSo any thing I can do03:21
JucatoHeavenquake: hmm basic question.. why are you compiling KDevelop yourself?03:21
tarelerulzAlot of program have not been luaching with I install them from adapt03:22
sidnelsonok them03:22
HeavenquakeJucato: because I want a feature that was uploaded to the svn server one hour ago, at my request03:22
Skullersoulrider: ohh....yea well i lukd for help in the official documentation...and came to this page...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy...if i folllow the instructions on this page accurately my X wont start up again03:22
sidnelsonHymnTolife: thanks03:22
HymnToLifesidnelson, is is recomended you use visudo though because it wil also check the file for syntax errors03:23
JucatoHeavenquake: then KDEDEVELOPDIR should be where you will install KDevelop (from source)03:23
franklini asked this question a couple of nights ago, but the answer i was given didn't work. I use konqueror and i want to know to know how to turn off http referrer logging03:23
tarelerulzberly just stopped working on me one day too haha03:23
HymnToLifeso you're not locked without sudo if you do one03:23
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sidnelsonHymnToLife: ok03:23
HeavenquakeJucato: something I just can choose, or is there a dir I must choose here?03:23
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JucatoHeavenquake: that actually depends on you. you do know how to compile from SVN right?03:24
DonMCNCan somebody tell me how to remove Xfce?03:24
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DonMCNDoing this command does not work: sudo apt-get remove xfce03:24
HeavenquakeJucato: until a few hours ago, I didn't even know what SVN was, so no..03:24
JucatoHeavenquake: anyway, KDEDEVELOPDIR is one you choose. where you choose to install KDevelop03:24
soulriderSkuller: maybe you should ask for help int he effects channel03:24
franklindon... sudo apt-get remove xfce03:24
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soulrider!beryl | Skuller03:25
ubotuSkuller: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:25
Skullersoulrider: thnx...i'll i will03:25
DonMCNfranklin: I did that, and it said Xfce package not found03:25
JucatoHeavenquake: er? hm... that's going to be a bit difficult. #kdevelop guys are unavailable?03:25
soulriderDonMCN: Xfce or xfce03:25
franklingood point03:25
DonMCNXfce03:26
DonMCNI have tried both, and they do not work03:26
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HeavenquakeJucato: will /usr do here too? - guys in there are mostly idling, or just referring to the guide.03:26
soulrideruse xfce03:26
soulriderlowercase03:26
DonMCNIt does not work, I've tried it03:26
JucatoHeavenquake: it's up to you. but I don't personally recommend installing anything you compile from source in /usr03:26
franklinhow often do most of you reinstall or do you wait for the next version03:26
JucatoHeavenquake: are you familiar with compiling from source code?03:26
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HeavenquakeJucato: a bit. But it's not something I'm used to. yet, i feel i need to learn it sooner or later03:27
JucatoHeavenquake: you know the --prefix flag used in ./configure right?03:27
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Heavenquakehmm.. no? But isn't it just good enough to take it step by step?03:28
Jucato!compile03:28
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:28
HeavenquakeI feel like learning by doing...03:29
JucatoHeavenquake: ./configure --prefix=/directory/to/install <--- that will direct the installation to install in a different directory.03:29
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JucatoHeavenquake: ok then, do it step by step as you said :)03:29
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JucatoHeavenquake: try getting familiar with compiling, specially the --prefix option. that wiki page will help a bit03:29
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Heavenquakeyes.. But.. the KDEVELOPDIR can be /usr too, without messing up anything.. right?03:30
tarelerulzSo any of you have program not work when installed from adept03:30
raindog I have Beryl installed and working fine with Aiglx under Edgy.  I usually use a gnome/beryl session, but on occasion I use KDE.  When I run beryl-manager in KDE it works just fine.  Now here's my question:  In KDE, my wallpaper resets to that of my gnome session and when I right-click on the desktop I get the default gnome menu rather than the usual KDE menu.  Why am I getting these gnome related parts in KDE?03:30
JucatoHeavenquake: it can mess up anything, because /usr is the place where APT installs by default03:30
JucatoHeavenquake: but if you want to risk it, go ahead03:31
Heavenquakehm... So creating /usr/kdevelop3.4 and using that is better, i figure?03:31
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paul_Heavenquake: Better use something under /opt03:31
paul_for me i found its easier to handle03:31
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JucatoHeavenquake: anywhere you want. I'm just recommending not in /usr. just my personal recommendation :)03:31
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DaSkreechIs it normally this quiet?03:35
Jucatoonly since you came in...03:35
stdinwe were talking about you03:36
DaSkreechOh well I'm legally blind and deaf so blather away03:36
HeavenquakeJucato: Okay.. now I try ./configure --prefix=$KDEVELOPDIR - which returns a lot of "no"'s, and in the end terminates with an error : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!03:36
stdin!xincludes03:37
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev03:37
SlackRatif03:37
JucatoHeavenquake: ^^^^03:37
pablo_Hola hay alguien que me pueda ayudar con una webcam genius03:37
SlackRatoops, wrong window03:37
Jucatonotably, xorg-dev03:37
DaSkreech!es | pablo_03:38
ubotupablo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:38
HeavenquakeJucato: thanks03:39
pablo_thanks!!03:40
JucatoHeavenquake: stdin too03:40
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Heavenquakestdin: thank you also03:40
stdinyou're welcome Heavenquake :)03:41
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tarelerulzI want to install firefox What do I do03:41
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DaSkreech!xkobo03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xkobo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:42
DaSkreech!firefox03:42
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:42
DaSkreech!firefox | tarelerulz03:42
ubotutarelerulz: please see above03:42
stdintarelerulz: install it with the Adept Package Mamager03:42
stdin*Manager03:42
stdin:P03:42
paul_is there a simple way to get the comlete autoconf/make stuff?03:42
tarelerulzNo being dumb use adept and it does not work with from menu or terminal03:42
Jucatopaul_: what do you mean?03:43
flaccid_paul_: install the meta package build-essential ?03:43
paul_i installed the build-essential03:43
Jucatoflaccid_: doesn't install those03:43
Jucatopaul_: sudo apt-get install autconf automake1.903:43
Jucatoone line to install :D03:43
flaccid_it doesn't03:43
flaccid_hmm03:43
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DaSkreechtarelerulz: Whats wrong?03:44
Jucatoflaccid_: nope. it doesn't "D03:44
Jucato:D03:44
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flaccid_it should it include autoconf, wonder why not03:44
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HeavenquakeJucato:03:44
Heavenquakein the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.03:44
HeavenquakeSo, check this please and use another prefix!03:44
tarelerulzI don't know what is wrong I run it and it does nothing03:44
Heavenquakeit says03:45
tarelerulzno error or anything03:45
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JucatoHeavenquake: install kde-devel or kdelibs4-dev03:45
Steven_Mhi all03:45
Steven_Mwhat's the terminal command for starting kde's power manager?03:45
flaccid_hmm i would regard autoconf as a build essential, ah well03:46
Skuller*yo03:46
Jucatoflaccid_: apparently Ubuntu (or Debian) doesn't :D03:46
SkullerJucato: how do u do that "*jucato doesnt know..." thingy?03:46
stdinflaccid_: for cvs and the like, yeah, but most source tarballs don't need it03:47
stdinSkuller: type: /me something03:47
JucatoSkuller: /me message03:47
Skullerohh...thnx03:47
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stdinheh03:47
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Skullerman i m lovin irc03:48
flaccid_autoconf is a good habit to get into imho but thats only my opinion03:48
flaccid_(considering ubuntu is a jack of all trades distro)03:48
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Steven_Manyone know?03:49
stdinflaccid_: do I agree, it should at least reccommend automake/conf03:49
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DaSkreechtarelerulz: What are you running? can you paste the line here?03:49
flaccid_yep recommend would be nice :)03:49
kubuntu01hi03:49
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DaSkreechSteven_M: One second03:50
JucatoSkuller: one of the mysteries of the universe03:50
kubuntu01well im noob at linux03:50
DaSkreechSteven_M: Guidance-power-manager03:50
kubuntu01first time i join here03:50
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kubuntu01XD03:50
flaccid_people have the right to speak when they want to. pretty is to understand :)03:50
flaccid_er easy03:50
kubuntu01hey do u play warcraft_03:50
kubuntu01303:51
Adydaswarcraft works on ubunut?03:51
kubuntu01yay with wine03:51
DaSkreechkubuntu01: Welcome to kubuntu03:51
Adydasoh03:51
kubuntu01ty man03:51
Adydasi suppose thats ok.03:51
kubuntu01well i can play it very well03:51
kubuntu01and with beryl runing03:51
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kubuntu01oh, i never tryed, im noob lol03:52
Adydasyou dont need wine for UT200403:52
Adydasin saying that, i cant get it going03:52
paul_why dont you use windows if you want to play?03:52
paul_its only a toy03:52
SkullerAdydas: yea i was actually referring to ut9903:52
DaSkreechSkuller: ut2003 and up run native on Linux03:52
Adydasoh ok03:52
Adydasdidnt see that03:53
kubuntu01well, paul just wanted to try the xgl server03:53
SkullerDaSkreech: oh...thas cool...but its only ut99 that u can play online on servers legally with a pirate copy03:53
Steven_MDaSkreech: thanks :)03:53
Adydasi get gay errors that make no sense at all03:53
SkullerDaSkreech: i mean not legally...but easily03:53
kubuntu01>D03:53
kubuntu01jeje03:53
Skullerjeje?03:53
kubuntu01ya im from Colombia03:54
AdydasAssertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 03:54
Adydasfudge knows what that means03:54
DaSkreechSkuller: The game costs 15 dollars for the GOTY edition. Suck it up and pony up03:54
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HeavenquakeJucato: checking for Berkeley DB >= 4.1... configure: error: no - please install Berkeley DB >= 4.1 what's that package named?03:54
DaSkreechSkuller: Plus for a company that actually make the effort to have games run on LInux pay them for it and let them know why you bought it.03:54
kubuntu01hey some1 using kubuntu_03:55
kubuntu01?03:55
tarelerulzwhen I install it with the abept it does not at all03:55
SlackRat.......03:55
tarelerulzin the menu nor the terminal03:55
JucatoHeavenquake: "sudo apt-get build-dep kdevelop" will install the needed headers/packages you need to compile KDevelop03:55
SkullerDaSkreech: yes u have me there man...but the thing is i live in a reali crap country named 'fiji'....not much developed in terms of original pc games trade..or even any type of PC games for that matter03:55
DaSkreechtarelerulz: How did you install it in the terminal?03:56
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tarelerulzI used adept03:56
tarelerulzI mean I ran it with termial and I run it from the menus nither worked03:56
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SkullerDaSkreech: the only source of pc games is torrents for me....ordering online from other countries is a hassle and not an easy matter to explain to indian parents especially if ur only 1703:57
SlackRatwhats the best way to unrar something in kubuntu?03:57
stdin!rar03:57
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:57
JucatoSlackRat: install "unrar" and use Ark?03:57
DaSkreechSkuller: I know it's harder in some countries to find legal software than illegal (I live in one) but a) the game works on Linux cmon. and b) you can write them and ask for a Serial and they will give you a valid one03:57
stdinSlackRat: read the message from ubotu03:57
DaSkreechtarelerulz: Ah! It's installed already? It just won't work?03:57
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tarelerulzyes03:57
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tarelerulzFirefox does not work at all03:58
Jucatostdin: !rar | SlackRat is easer to say :D03:58
DaSkreechSkuller: can You run Ut2004 on your machine?03:58
kubuntu01firefox does work03:58
momalcan someone give me quick command to completly format a harddrive.. I want to remove the mbr from it as well :)P03:58
tarelerulzon my computer it does not03:58
stdinJucato: I know, I just didn't for some reason :P03:58
SkullerDaSkreech: i do not have the kubun version...so i only play it on xp03:58
kubuntu01what OS tarele03:58
kubuntu01?03:58
SlackRatoh, ok, ark will handle it then, since i have unrar installed.....thanx03:58
tarelerulzKubuntu is the os03:59
DonMCNOkay everybody I have a situation03:59
DonMCNMy sound works on one side of my Kubuntu, but on another user it does not03:59
Skullerdsabut i m more into ut9 bcoz of its ease of use in playing online with a pirate copy and less bandwidth required to play online coz i m on slow broadband03:59
DaSkreechSkuller: You are on Windows now? :)03:59
SkullerDaSkreech: no....kubun03:59
stdinmomal: in konsole type "man mkfs" or in konqueror man:/mkfs03:59
DaSkreechSkuller: I guess I can see with the broadband issue03:59
SkullerDaSkreech: but i m more into ut9 bcoz of its ease of use in playing online with a pirate copy and less bandwidth required to play online coz i m on slow broadband03:59
DaSkreechThough I have played UT2004 on dial up03:59
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SkullerDaSkreech: yea...04:00
DonMCNMy sound works on my main account, but on a secondary account it does not work at all.04:00
DaSkreechDonMCN: Check to see if it a member of the audio group04:00
SkullerDaSkreech: oh thas gud...but for me being in fiji...the lowest ping on servers i get is in the US...and that also a minimum of 250ms...so if i play with that ping on dialup...i wud rather chuck mah system out da window hehe04:00
DonMCNCan you explain to me how I can do that, I am new to Kubuntu04:00
DaSkreechDonMCN: alt+space -> System -> press enter04:01
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DonMCNDaSkreech: I'm a bit confused with that command, it does not work.04:01
pablo_hi folks04:01
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DaSkreechDonMCN: Press alt+space it start up katapult04:02
pablo_how can i do for listening in four speackers?04:02
DaSkreechpablo_: Welcome back04:02
flaccid_DaSkreech: perhaps hes not running katapult.04:02
DonMCNAlt+Space does nothing. I am on Xfce, not on KDE.04:02
DaSkreechflaccid_: blasphemy!!04:02
DaSkreechDonMCN: :-P04:03
kubuntu01well04:03
DonMCNBut its under Kubuntu.04:03
flaccid_katapult doesn't cover everything thats why i don't use it04:03
kubuntu01i had no problem with the 4 speakers to sound04:03
DaSkreechDonMCN: Umm I'm not sure do You have a system like in Ubuntu?04:03
pablo_yeah04:03
DonMCNI have system settings under my KDE version of Kubuntu04:03
`Z`hello04:03
DonMCNBut on Xfce I'm not sure at all where it is.04:03
DaSkreechflaccid_: covers enough04:03
SlackRatwow, Xarchiver was so much smoother....04:03
flaccid_enough for you04:03
DaSkreechDonMCN: well Look for something that looks like User Config or user/group administration04:04
DonMCNOkay04:04
pablo_i cant configure two outs04:04
DaSkreechDonMCN: in the properties of your second user see if the audio group is checked04:04
DonMCNDaSkreech let me get onto my main account and under KDE and I'll get back on Konversation.04:04
DaSkreechflaccid_: Other than command line (which alt+f2 covers) what doesn't it do for you?04:05
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pablo_DaSkreech: how can i do that?04:05
flaccid_DaSkreech: thats what it doesn't cover04:05
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flaccid_why do you need both? thats my point04:05
flaccid_if it did cli, then i would use it04:05
root_____hola04:05
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DonMCNOkay I'm back04:06
`Z`hey please, could someone help me to create an inird img for booting on a Xen kernel ?04:06
DaSkreechSkuller: we aren't? then why did I just mail off a bill to you?04:06
`Z`( i don't speak englsih as well so scuse me :/ )04:06
pablo_DaSkreech: can u give me your msn? for a private conversation04:07
flaccid_Z, we help with kubuntu here, don't know if you will find someone that will help04:07
DonMCNDaSkreech: I'm on KDE now.04:07
DaSkreechflaccid_: it makes commands much shorter plus it can search the net metadata etc04:07
spawn57DaSkreech: me too04:07
spawn57=D04:07
SkullerDaSkreech: lol....well i guess u arent...but dont expect a bill return tho...04:07
pablo_yes, but do u have aMSN?04:07
flaccid_DaSkreech: i know what it can do. i also know what it can't do.04:07
DaSkreechDonMCN: Alt+space -> system -> <press enter>04:07
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pablo_lol04:07
pablo_ok04:07
stdin`Z`: what's your native language, there may be a channel for it04:07
`Z`flaccid_, if that can persuadr you, i'm running on Kubuntu XD04:08
DaSkreechpablo_: I don't use MSN and I don't know about 4 speakers sorry04:08
`Z`stdin, french04:08
`Z`:/04:08
stdin!fr04:08
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:08
`Z`but in france, all is sleeping xD04:08
pablo_ok, DaSkreech04:08
Skullerlol04:08
DonMCNok I got on Users and Groups. does the secondary user have to be on the audio group for audio to work?04:08
flaccid_z, you might have better luck in ##linux04:08
`Z`are ? or is ?04:08
HeavenquakeJucato: http://pastebin.ca/369880 ... now what's that?04:08
Heavenquakeduring make04:09
JucatoHeavenquake: btw, you have to get used to this kind of troubleshooting when compiling anything from source04:09
pablo_kde is full of errors04:09
DaSkreechpablo_: If it helps you may be able to ask in #ubuntu as well. Audio should kind of work the same04:09
`Z`but i can speak in C programing04:09
stdin`Z`: there are xen packages for ubuntu04:09
pablo_gnome is better04:09
DaSkreechDonMCN: Yup04:09
DonMCNThank you let me go try it04:09
stdin!xen | `Z`04:09
ubotu`Z`: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy04:09
DaSkreechpablo_: What errors?04:09
`Z`if (!strcmp(country,"france")) { sleep(); }04:09
HeavenquakeJucato: ya I know.04:10
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`Z`yeah stdin , but :04:10
`Z`Dpaquetage de xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 ( partir de .../xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0_2.6.17-6_i386.deb) ...04:10
`Z`Paramtrage de xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 (2.6.17-6) ...04:10
`Z`Please manually create an initrd image04:10
pablo_for example... kubuntu 6.10 is full of error in the boot04:10
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Jucato!pastebin | `Z`04:10
ubotu`Z`: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:10
flaccid_if ($inWrongChan) { gotoRightChan(); }04:10
DaSkreechpablo_: What kind of errors?04:10
`Z`>_>04:10
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stdin`Z`: man update-initramfs04:11
pablo_the sys doesn't boot cos it has troubles with some files and i dont know what more...04:11
JucatoHeavenquake: you have build-essential installed already, right?04:11
flaccid_segfaults are usually impossible to fix if no apparent probem exists. can be hardware or the software04:11
Jucatoouch04:12
pablo_is because of that i use gnome04:12
JucatoHeavenquake: might want to ask #kdevelop devs04:12
`Z`ok stdin thx04:12
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JucatoHeavenquake: looks like one of their source codes.04:12
DaSkreechpablo_: ok. If that works for you :) don't want to make your life harder04:12
stdin`Z`: I'm not an expert in it, but that seems a good place to start04:12
JucatoHeavenquake: you should, however, expect things like these when compiling from SVN04:12
flaccid_segfaults are like drinking at a bar being told you can't have anymore, but you want to drink more04:12
HeavenquakeJucato: yes I have build-essential. Installed it when I had to compile a driver from source.04:12
pablo_ok04:12
`Z`stdin, ok man, i'm looking this, apparently it's that i'm looking for04:13
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flaccid_is xen good?04:14
lu-baodoes somebody know a solution to get my Hauppauge DVB-T Nova-T to work at sound in kaffeine ?04:15
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crackhead25question: what's everyone's opinion on the amd64 release of kubuntu? is it full of problems? is the x86 still the way to go? enough driver compatibility for peripherals, etc.?04:15
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flaccid_crackhead25: most people think its not enough04:15
`Z`yeah :D04:15
`Z`great stdin04:15
`Z`thx man, it's ok :)04:16
DaSkreechflaccid_: zen Is :)04:16
crackhead25anyone have a good recommendation for which distro is best for a 64 chip, or is there none?04:16
flaccid_sweet04:16
DaSkreech!musicbrainz04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about musicbrainz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:16
Heavenquakecrackhead25: I'm still searching for a reason for using 64bit software... It is not yet better than 32bit.. not so much better that it matters, at least04:16
DaSkreech!libtunepimp04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libtunepimp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:16
flaccid_can xen do windows partition in guest os vm?04:16
DaSkreech!find pimp04:16
ubotuFound: libtunepimp-bin, libtunepimp3, libtunepimp3-dev, libtunepimp-perl, libtunepimp3-mp3 (and 3 others)04:16
`Z`now reboot, i will come back ^^04:16
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InuDuelistHay guys. What was the name of the package that gives the mp3 codec?04:17
lu-baohttp://paste.debian.net/22534  <-- somebody know a solution to bring this to work with sound? *actually only videostream works without sound*04:17
JucatoInuDuelist: libxine-extracodecs04:17
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InuDuelistThanks, Jucato04:17
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milardovichi have a question (sory for my bad english)04:17
DaSkreechflaccid_: I think it can with hardware support04:18
milardovichhow can i delete a file with "sudo" command?04:18
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milardovichpienso que debe ser facil :P04:18
DaSkreech!mp3 | InuDuelist04:18
stdinmilardovich: sudo rm file04:18
ubotuInuDuelist: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:18
lu-baomilardovich, sudo rm -rf filename.ending04:18
milardovichok, i will try04:18
InuDuelistBah.04:19
lu-baonow thats great not anyone here knows a way for that sound issue? :)  http://paste.debian.net/2253404:19
InuDuelistI keep getting this error on Amarok, starting the moment I loaded today:04:19
InuDuelistNo suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.04:19
InuDuelistfile:///home/dementual/music/Dragonforce - Cry Of The Brave.mp304:19
milardovichbash: milardovich,: orden no encontrada04:19
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flaccid_InuDuelist: no thats actually a xine problem04:20
InuDuelistReally?04:20
milardovichits work!04:20
InuDuelistWhat would I do?04:20
milardovichthank you04:20
flaccid_yeah it doesn't support streams very well04:20
lu-baooookay .... then without kubuntu04:21
pirothezeroso i keep getting Segmentation fault in firefox anyone have any idea why that might be04:21
milardovichand there is a method who dont need the konsole?04:21
pirothezeroi want to downgrade to 1.504:21
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milardovicha "visual method"?04:21
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flaccid_pirothezero: could be anything04:22
shivwhy is automatix site down does anybody know?04:22
flaccid_most you can do is google it or ask in #firefox04:22
DaSkreechmilardovich: alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror04:22
pirothezeroits the only thing that does and its pissing me off04:22
stdinmilardovich: use konqueror as root04:22
crackhead25anyone know how well kubuntu is at supporting wireless usb network adapters? does it always require using ndiswrapper?04:22
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InuDuelistflaccid_: What would I do?04:22
milardovichohhh thanks DaSkreech, its very easy!04:23
milardovichi love linux!04:23
flaccid_crackhead25: check if its supported04:23
DaSkreechmilardovich: Yes it is :)04:23
flaccid_InuDuelist: use a dif engine for that type of stream04:23
DaSkreechmilardovich: want to marry it? eyes off I asked first!!!04:23
milardovichxD04:23
milardovichnono i will hit you04:23
milardovichxD04:23
crackhead25flaccid: check where?04:24
flaccid_!wireless04:24
BeefotronXI think I've tried all the usual stuff and I can't make my wacom tablet work.04:24
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:24
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flaccid_could be a link on there crackhead2504:24
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flaccid_mayday mayday, theres a crackhead lifting up the bus!04:24
DaSkreechmilardovich: I will fight for her! She is too beautiful04:24
crackhead25haha04:24
crackhead25you bet, man04:25
vioscarnecesito ayuda con la instalacion del driver nvidia04:25
flaccid_red balls! gives you wings04:25
DaSkreechCourse I could say she is too easy o.004:25
vioscarlo acabo de daar04:25
DaSkreech!nivida | vioscar04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
flaccid_nah she puts out too much04:25
DaSkreech!nvida | vioscar04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
milardovichvioscar speak spanish?04:25
flaccid_!nv04:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:25
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vioscarok... I write a little english :P04:26
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vioscarthanks... I will see the link04:26
DaSkreech!es | vioscar04:26
ubotuvioscar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:26
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milardovichvioscar http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/22704:27
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skint0ris it possible to get opera installed in kubuntu amd64? i keep getting an error about system mismatch in dpkg04:28
vioscarok thanks man04:28
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DaSkreechskint0r: you may need a fakeroot04:29
hammer_hi04:29
DaSkreech!fakeroot04:29
ubotufakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB04:29
skint0rhmm ok04:30
DaSkreech!find kobo04:30
ubotuFound: kobodeluxe04:30
hammer_where to add line with mgetty in edgy? inittab won't work afaik..04:30
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DaSkreechWhoops04:30
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hammer_!mgetty04:31
ubotumgetty: Smart Modem getty replacement. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.35-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 166 kB, installed size 392 kB04:32
ccherrettis it safe to run an upgrade to edgy?04:32
DaSkreechccherrett: What are you running now?04:32
InuDuelistHey guys, Amarok stopped playing .mp3 files and I can't find how to fix it04:32
DaSkreech!mp304:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:32
InuDuelistDidn't help.04:32
ccherrettDaSkreech: I think Dapper04:33
stdin!upgrade | ccherrett04:33
ubotuccherrett: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:33
tarelerulzany of you had problem with berly04:33
DaSkreechccherrett: it's safe in that it shouldn't break anything too badly but you do lose LTS04:33
ccherrettDaSkreech: LTS?04:34
stdin!lts04:34
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.04:34
milardovichand how can i do to stop my apache server?04:34
DaSkreech!LTS04:34
DaSkreechdamn04:34
stdinmilardovich: it'll be something like: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop04:34
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milardovichok04:35
skint0rDaSkreech: how exactly would i use that? the error i get is "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"04:35
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DaSkreech!x86-6404:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x86-64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
stdin!amd6404:36
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.04:36
InuDuelistAnyone wanna help me with the mp3 problem? :(04:37
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DaSkreechI can never remember that one04:37
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spawn57InuDuelist: just ask04:39
InuDuelistAsk what?04:39
InuDuelistThe problem again?04:39
InuDuelistOK.04:39
InuDuelist[19:32:39]  <InuDuelist> Hey guys, Amarok stopped playing .mp3 files and I can't find how to fix it04:39
InuDuelistI'm assuming that I screwed with my sound card settings04:40
InuDuelistBut I dunno how to revert them back to what they were.04:40
SlackRatcheck kmix for volumes04:40
InuDuelistNot the problem.04:41
InuDuelistHere's the error.04:41
SlackRatcheck that amarok is the choice when you click on an mp3 file, to open them04:41
InuDuelistNo suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.04:41
InuDuelistfile:///home/dementual/music/Zune/System of a Down/Mezmerize [Clean] /07 Violent Pornography.mp304:41
franklinhates mp3s... convert everything to ogg and anything can open them... easy, easy04:42
InuDuelistThere's the error I get when attempting to play it.04:42
InuDuelistIt, or any other mp3.04:42
InuDuelist.wma files work.04:42
DaSkreechInuDuelist: Did you try purging mp3 support and reinstalling it?04:42
InuDuelistNo.04:42
SlackRatthey were working before tho?04:42
franklin.wma files on linux04:42
JucatoInuDuelist: can you check if Amarok is the only one having problems? Try playing an MP3 in Kaffeine04:42
franklinmight as well use windows04:42
InuDuelistAlright04:42
InuDuelistOne sec.04:42
InuDuelistfranklin: Or I could not. <3.04:43
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franklinwhy even do wma?04:43
InuDuelistBecause they were there.04:43
InuDuelistWhat the hell.04:43
pirothezeropsa to the channel: if anyone gets segmentation faults on firefox 2.0.0.1 on edgy try renaming your .mozilla folder and restart firefox to make a new one seems to have worked for me04:43
DaSkreechpirothezero: You could just try a new profile04:43
ibbhow can i mount a usb mp3 player04:43
DaSkreechfirefox --profile-manager  I think04:43
DaSkreech!ipod04:43
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod04:43
franklinfree software only here, and i don't understand the linux people who don't feel the same way04:43
SlackRatman mount04:44
ibbno ipod here04:44
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DaSkreechibb: Is it a MTP player?04:44
pirothezerodepends ibb, i plugged my 3 gen for the first time last night and it auto detected it perfectly then used gtkpod, today though i switched over to amarok04:44
InuDuelistBah.04:44
ibbyes, i used to be able to put stuff on it using linux but i cant now, unkown why04:44
InuDuelistKaffeine still doesn't open.04:44
DaSkreechfranklin: You are always going to be tied to closed software at some point04:44
franklinnever04:45
InuDuelistJucato: Doesn't open in Noatun.04:45
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InuDuelistAnd Kaffeine doesn't open period.04:45
DaSkreechInuDuelist: mp3123?04:45
JucatoInuDuelist: Noautun doesn't use xine afaik04:45
InuDuelistMeh.04:45
franklindaskreech, i've been using linux since 98, and i have no closed source stuff on my machine04:45
JucatoNoatun*04:45
DaSkreechfranklin: including your BIOS? :)04:46
InuDuelistWell, it won't open in Amarok.04:46
ibbi dont have the sd* in dev04:46
franklinfree bios04:46
InuDuelistAnd Kaffeine doesn't open at all. It poofs.04:46
DaSkreechfranklin: sweet. Which Mobo?04:46
ibbkaffeine is not a good player04:46
ibbat all04:46
stdinibb: so "ls /dev/sd*" shows nothing ?04:46
InuDuelistJucato: It opens in VLC Media Player.04:46
ibbnone04:46
franklini thinkk it's an american something or other04:46
JucatoInuDuelist: might be a xine thing then (amarok and kaffeine use the xine engine)04:47
stdinibb: are you sure it's plugged in properly ?04:47
DaSkreechfranklin: How did you install the BIOS?04:47
franklini didn;t do it, a friend did... i was reluctant to hose it up04:47
InuDuelistNah, Jucato, Kaffeine hasn't been opening in weeks.04:47
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InuDuelistShould I try purging and reinstalling?04:47
ibbstdin: when i do kde info i see it as sandisk, that it is04:47
crystufer2000Yo. What do I need to burn an audio cd from mp3's?04:47
DaSkreechfranklin:  so what happens if you need to upgrade your board?04:47
ibbcrystufer2000: u need k3b04:47
DaSkreechcrystufer2000: k3b04:47
crystufer2000got that.04:48
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crystufer2000Says unsupported format.04:48
Jucatocrystufer2000: libk3b2-mp304:48
franklini shouldn;t have to for some time, and by then there should be more free bioses written04:48
DaSkreechInuDuelist: can't kill you04:48
stdinibb: is there anything in syslog when you plug it in?04:48
Jucato!info libk3b2-mp3 | crystufer200004:48
adwelindo someone know how to shearch a package on kde???04:48
ubotucrystufer2000: libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB04:48
crystufer2000thank you.04:48
DaSkreechfranklin: got around to replacing the firmware on your hard drives?04:48
franklinthere is some greeat info on gnu/fsf04:48
Jucatoadwelin: use Adept, or type "apt:/:" in Konqueror?04:48
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DaSkreechJucato: How come that gets to be universe?04:49
ibbstdin: yes it says the usb has been connected04:49
JucatoDaSkreech: dunno. I'm not a packager (yet)04:49
adwelini dont know how to use adept...04:49
franklindaskreech... i dont think there is any04:49
Jucato!adept | adwelin04:49
ubotuadwelin: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:49
InuDuelistDamn it.04:49
InuDuelistPurged and reinstalled it.04:49
DaSkreechfranklin: I'd doubt there is04:49
InuDuelistStill doesn't open. :/.04:49
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adwelintanks04:49
ibbstdin: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 304:50
franklini low level formatted thiese drives when i bougt the machine04:50
jmichaelxhave any others been having issues with amarok 1.4.5 crashing at bootup?04:50
stdinibb: anything after that?04:50
ibbstdin: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice04:50
ibbstdin: here is the whole line: [17185287.408000]  usb 4-4: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice04:51
stdinibb: and that's it, nothing after that? and nothing about SCSI?04:52
InuDuelistJucato: How do I revert Xine settings back to what they were yesterday?04:52
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InuDuelistAwww.04:52
Jucatosorry04:52
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franklindasreech, you don't use all free software?04:53
ibbstdin: that is all04:53
adwelinadept is shuting down anormally....04:53
SlackRati thought adept always started up abnormally ....   :-P04:53
ibbstdin: kinfocenter says; Sansa e250 on EHCI Host Controller(4)04:54
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adwelini'm ok04:54
stdinibb: hmm, that's strange04:54
adwelinbut it did'nt find my application...04:54
jmichaelxwould someone here know what might possible cause kaffeine to refuse to open?04:55
jmichaelxpossibly*04:55
ibbjmichaelx: plugins non existent, what are u opening?04:55
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adwelini can't install cedega...04:56
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ibbstdin: what should i look up now?04:56
[Relic] any way of getting shell to recoginize \ instead of having it disappear?   or is there a way to sudo the system menu?04:57
InuDuelistAnyone got any ideas how I would go about reinstalling the xine engine?04:58
stdinibb: not sure, it seems to be seeing that a device is connected, but it's not recognising it as a storage device04:59
stdin[Relic] : sudo the system menu? what do you mean?04:59
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DaSkreechfranklin: I mostly do but I don't see why you should be dogmatic about it05:00
DaSkreechJucato: Bye05:00
jmichaelxibb: this is on a friend's PC... he told me that kaffeine would no longer open, and that mplayer crashes when he tries to open a video file with it05:00
[Relic] stdin, ressurected an old dos program but it left me with temp\Alpha\<bunch o dirs>  that the little system browser icon can erase for some reason and I can bulk rm them either05:01
crystufer2000K. K3b is working with my mp3's now. Thanks alll. I hope it burns good.05:01
DaSkreechfranklin: Even stallman said that using closed software must happen but should be used as a path towards more free software05:01
franklinbut stallman won't use non-free software05:02
[Relic] stdin, Access denied to /home/relic/.local/share/Trash/files/temp\Alpha1\STAR72.05:02
jmichaelxibb: the dangers of introducing linux to non-tech-inclined friends05:03
stdin[Relic] : you can't delete it from trash:/ ?05:03
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DaSkreechfranklin: Yeah but he did for a good while05:03
adwelinmy adept didn't detedt cedega package05:04
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DaSkreechadwelin: It wouldn't05:04
[Relic] stdin, it isn't there05:04
SlackRatand DaSkreech shoots! and scores...........05:04
adwelinwhy?05:04
ibbjmichaelx: its the fun in getting to really know your system05:04
DaSkreechIt can't be distributed like that05:04
adwelin???05:05
InuDuelistSo, anyone get any ideas what I should do with my Amarok/xine/soundcard/whateverelseappears problem?05:05
jmichaelxibb: very true..... *nix makes computing computing again05:05
flaccid_if its a stream you can just keep trying it and it usually will load05:05
adwelinand, how can i play my winows games???05:06
flaccid_otherwise you have to recompile amarok with other engine support05:06
DaSkreechadwelin: install cedega05:06
stdin[Relic] : you can get the shell to recognise a '\' (escape charactor) by escaping it, so '\\', so the path would be /home/relic/.local/share/Trash/files/temp\\Alpha1\\STAR7205:06
franklinreinstall... quicker than killing yourself05:06
InuDuelistHow would I do that?05:06
InuDuelistfranklin: I'd like to avoid reinstalling, thx.05:06
adwelini can't, adept didn't fint it...05:06
Gtwyanyone willing to look at my apache2 vhosts config and tell me what i need to change to add an SSL host05:06
ibbInuDuelist: sudo apt-get remove [program] 05:06
InuDuelistI know.05:06
InuDuelistBut how would I reinstall it with other engine support?05:06
[Relic] that got rid of them  :)05:07
jmichaelxibb: i once had video apps quit working for me as well.. on my laptop. i am sure there would have been a way to fix it, but i finally just reinstalled kubuntu, which is probably what i will get this friend of mine to do05:07
franklini don't know why people don't like to reinstall. i reinstall my entire OS every three months like clockwork05:07
ibbInuDuelist: sudo apt-get install xine*05:07
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adwelinhow can i install cedega05:07
kamuiwhats the command to test key inputs that the xorg server is recieving?  Im ultimately trying to map my tablet pc's rotation button to a rotate script I wrote05:07
SlackRatreinstalling as a problem solver is a windows concept......05:07
InuDuelistThat'd work if "xine" was a package.05:07
jmichaelxfranklin: i can see what you are saying, but for me it means speanding an evening setting everything back up the way i want it05:08
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DaSkreechadwelin: far as I know you compile it or buy it05:08
ibbInuDuelist: that is right, there is gxine as a package05:08
stdin[Relic] : it's because you normally use a '\' for a charactor you want the shell not to interprate, like a > or a space, so you have to escape the escape charactor :P05:08
SlackRatnix systems run 24/7 often for months, without having to reinstall unless you wanna clean up or upgrade, and even then05:08
franklini dont do it as a problem solver, i do it because i have so much crap on my systems by then, they become sluggish05:08
adwelini have it as a .deb05:08
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stdin!deb | adwelin05:09
ubotuadwelin: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:09
franklini test tons of software and after a while, the system gets crufty05:09
intelikeySlackRat mmm i thought rebooting was i windows concept, and reinstalling was a linux standard...05:09
SlackRateven then franklin, there are cleaning tools to overcome that.....matter or preference really05:09
adwelinthat didn't do anything...05:09
franklincleaning tools don't work that well05:09
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franklini want a perfect, virgin install... kinda like monk that way...05:10
SlackRatreinstalling is the recommended upgrade to a new version cause so many version upgrades are just buggy05:10
flaccid_a virgin05:10
flaccid_ubuntu has been used a bit05:10
DaSkreech!vm05:10
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications05:10
SlackRatbut to reinstall drake over drake for example, isnt usually a necessary resort05:10
DaSkreech!cedega05:10
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:10
DaSkreechadwelin: ^^^05:10
SlackRatalso running a system from a flash usb is an option ...05:11
franklinhas thankfully left windows behind permanently05:11
jmichaelxthis machine has been running kubuntu for over a year with no issues.... except that the newest kernel upgrade sucks with my wireless adapter now05:11
InuDuelistWhat's a "demux plugin"?05:11
raylu!demux05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
rayluaww05:11
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`Z`re05:12
SlackRator google demux plugin05:12
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adwelindo winex work well???05:12
intelikeygoogle....  !   uh.     apt-cache search demux05:13
franklinspeaking of google, i have a bitch with kubuntu in  particular and linux in general05:13
jmichaelx2.6.17-10 worked well with my ralink usb wireless adapter... but -11 does not support it nearly so well05:13
SlackRatheh, franklin....which is?05:13
flaccid_InuDuelist: only the xinelib team can fix it05:13
`Z`my too, 2.6.17-10 form ubuntu, is compiled with all wireless modules05:13
InuDuelistSo I'm screwed.05:13
flaccid_and it could be fixed already. what version of ubuntu, InuDuelist05:14
`Z`from05:14
InuDuelist6.10.05:14
franklinwhy does every free software browser have to have Google as the default search, even in hidden options.05:14
DaSkreechfranklin: Hoorah!05:14
InuDuelistWhat's the big deal?05:14
franklinepiphany, konq, ff, seamonkey05:14
pirothezeroapt-get = the one that if installed with apt-get when you remove apt-get it removes all dependencies it installed no?05:14
intelikeyfranklin it's in the kde settings  not in linux per'se05:14
DaSkreechfranklin: Cause most people use google?05:14
SlackRatim guessing, that whoever set it up that way is guessing its the best search engine05:14
SlackRatatm05:15
hitmanWillyfranklin: cuz most people use it05:15
franklindoesn't use google05:15
`Z`pirothezero, don't remove apt-get ^^05:15
InuDuelistGood for you.05:15
SlackRatused to be yahoo, but yahoo dropped the ball years ago05:15
`Z`you will get a lot of problem with your system05:15
hitmanWillyfranklin: so change the settings05:15
SlackRatwhat do you use franklin?05:15
franklini use yahoo most of the time, but ask.com increasingly05:15
flaccid_InuDuelist: i've tried compiling on dapper for it05:16
flaccid_you can't05:16
tjzdaskreech05:16
flaccid_need more recent version of stuff which can't be changed coz other programs depend on earlier version05:16
intelikeyfranklin so un-tic google and tic ask  as the default search.05:16
flaccid_this is the setup i have at work05:16
InuDuelistSo how do I fix it? Reinstall?05:17
franklinhates the fact that google seems to own the internet or buys every little company. hates their 2038 cookie05:17
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franklinintellikey...did that05:17
DaSkreechhey tjz05:17
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InuDuelistOh, stop complaining.05:17
franklinthanks anyway....:)05:17
flaccid_InuDuelist: you can't without lots of work. i still havnt05:17
InuDuelistIt's not like they're monopolizing and using it for evil.05:17
flaccid_dapper does not support new versions05:17
flaccid_but you could recompile with dif engine support. ask in #amarok05:17
tjzdaskreech  hey dude u remember where we left off?05:17
franklingoogle has done evil05:17
franklinas did yahoo05:18
SlackRattheres ways of dealing with cookies and junk. mwhahaha05:18
DaSkreechtjz: Nope fill me in05:18
hitmanWillyInuDuelist: not yet anyway05:18
SlackRatlet he who has never done evil......etc. etc.etc05:18
franklinturning in those guys to the chinese govt05:18
intelikeyfranklin the internet is evil.   you should disconnect from it.05:18
flaccid_someone should backport a more recent amarok05:18
SlackRatat least google kept the US govt at bay......05:18
InuDuelistI wanna avoid reinstalling amarok, though.05:18
InuDuelistSettings, etc.05:18
franklinyou really belive that, slack?05:19
jmichaelxamarok 1.4.5 is crashing on a number of kubuntu PCs at bootup05:19
intelikeyfranklin i'm not making light of that post.    just pointing out that you have no idea how much snooping and spying is going on online.05:19
SlackRatyup, and they have a point about the china case as well05:19
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franklinpublically, yes05:19
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franklinintellikey, i know05:19
InuDuelistWould there be any way to save my amarok song scores and date numbers and such?05:19
intelikeySlackRat sense when ?05:19
SlackRator how much of a record MS has in your xp of every move you make05:19
SlackRatin files you cant access05:20
tjzdaskreech  umm well sofar all i got is changed universe to multiverse then we left off.05:20
pirothezeroanyone know what the dev channel is?05:20
franklini'm aware of things like echelon, wild packets/carnivore, isps snooping, etc05:20
intelikeypirothezero #ubuntu+105:20
DaSkreechtjz: You were not to change universe to multiverse. You were to add it05:20
franklinsoftware that phones home, etc05:20
tjzi did05:20
hitmanWillyyeah, IEs history is copied even below the hidden files level05:20
tjzi ment that05:20
DaSkreechSo that it said "universe multiverse"05:20
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SlackRatthe lesser of two evils.....keep google presence so chinese folk can access the info, but you cave in to some authority demands....or lose china entirely behind firewalls05:21
stdinpirothezero: #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-deval , #ubuntu+1 is feisty (atm)05:21
DaSkreechtjz: Ok :005:21
tjzdaskreech  yea05:21
DaSkreechtjz: You clicked on Fetch Updates?05:21
SlackRatgoogle is a business.....not an ethic05:21
pirothezerothx05:21
DaSkreechtjz: great. What were we installing?05:21
tjzdaskreech  just did05:21
tjzdaskreech  it was a program for hacking05:21
stdinpirothezero: opps, that's #kubuntu-devel not #kubuntu-deval :P05:21
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adwelini tink i will go back to windows... there no directx emulator that i can install...05:22
`Z`omfg05:22
`Z`windows :s05:23
SlackRatadwelin, dual boot05:23
`Z`+105:23
DaSkreechtjz: Ah Kdevelop05:23
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adwelinmy hard-drive only have 40 go.05:23
tarelerulzI have Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)05:23
DaSkreechYou said that you did not have a Kdevelop package?05:23
tarelerulzhave any of you worked with that05:23
tjzdaskreech yea i think that was it and it would  break (install)05:23
`Z`adwelin, 10 G for win, 30 G for your kubuntu ^^05:24
`Z`no ?05:24
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adwelini'm not sure...05:24
`Z`win take ~4G05:24
intelikey<`Z`> win take ~4G <<< heh  which "win"  ?05:24
hitmanWillykubu takes even less than that05:24
adwelini like to have place for my apps.05:24
tjzdaskreech: yea05:24
`Z`win, windows :s05:25
`Z`XP05:25
DaSkreechtjz: This is kdevelop3 correct?05:25
intelikey`Z`  i see.05:25
jmichaelxgive kubuntu 15Gb and you will be fine05:25
tjzdaskreech: yea05:25
`Z`k05:25
DaSkreechok Hold on05:25
pirothezerothx stdin05:25
stdinnp05:25
SlackRatso does my hard drive05:25
intelikeyjmichaelx the install of kubuntu requires less than 3g05:26
SlackRatgive ubuntu 6-7 and youre fine05:26
DaSkreechI wonder what would happen if Adobe open sourced Photoshop05:26
Adydas2.5 by me05:26
Adydasafter updates05:26
Adydas2.5gb that is05:26
Dr_willisheck -  im debating totally whiping out windows on this box. :)05:26
jmichaelxintelikey: i know, i was being very generous/// for files, etc05:26
stdinDaSkreech: hell would freeze over :P05:26
SlackRatyeah, but you can then add stuff, store music etc05:26
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DaSkreechYou gotta ask yourself05:26
fiyawerx!nvidia05:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:26
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, hell would freeze and angels would rejoice05:26
`Z`3,3G    .05:26
DaSkreechWWGD?05:26
`Z`for me05:27
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intelikeyjmichaelx ok.      give windows 200g   and kubuntu 600g    and you will be fine.05:27
`Z`with many app05:27
Adydasdam, just for install you sure?05:27
intelikey:)05:27
DaSkreechtjz: are you on Dapper?05:27
DaSkreechWhat would GIMP do?05:27
tjzdaskreech: yea ui think05:27
tjzi*05:27
jmichaelxDr_willis: i am always keeping windows on machines because i am so sure that i will just have to have windows for something, but that times never seems to come.05:27
DaSkreechintelikey: why would there be no kdevelop package?05:28
tjzdaskreech: im im adept right now05:28
SlackRatlol jm05:28
stdinDaSkreech: what all good open apps do, steal everything and merge it05:28
jmichaelxi need to take windows off of all but maybe one of my PCs05:28
intelikeyDaSkreech cause a repo is not enabled ?05:28
DaSkreechtjz: And if you install kdevelop in preview it says break?05:28
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, and god said let Photoshop be free, and there was much rejoicing, except among the Gimp devs, who now found themselves out of work.05:28
Dr_willisjmichaelx,  yep. last i booted to windows on this box.. it demanded i reboot 3 times or so to get all the updates installed...05:28
Adydasi have never gone back to even booting windows to finish the installation process once it was done i left and came right into setting this up and yeah05:28
intelikeyDaSkreech what flavour ?05:28
tjzdaskreech: let me check again05:28
DaSkreechintelikey: well universe should be enabled but there is no kdevelop just a kdevelop305:28
DaSkreechintelikey: Which signals BREAK if you try to install it05:29
Adydashey guys, is it possible that X can load 2 diff confs based on the user trying to login05:29
intelikeywhat flavour ubuntu ?05:29
AdydasOR possible one can have more int he x11conf05:29
SlackRatwindows updates?05:29
DaSkreechstdin: go stealing!05:29
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DaSkreechintelikey: Kubuntu Dapper05:29
Dr_willisAdydas,  its possible. to have some different settings in a xorg.conf ive seen some multi-head setups that way05:29
tjzdaskreech: thier are multiple things to click so highlight and right clik request install?05:29
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intelikeyDaSkreech i have kdevelop installed on dapper.05:29
jmichaelxDr_willis: you had obviously not booted into windows for a while lol05:29
DaSkreechtjz: No05:29
Dr_willisAdydas,  but they used 'startx SOMEoptionshere" to get them to do it.05:29
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Adydasah05:30
Dr_willisjmichaelx,  nope. :)05:30
Adydascurrently i have commented out lines in my conf05:30
intelikey!kdevelop3 dapper05:30
SlackRattheres a reason the guys who made shrek among other pix artists use nix boxes running gimpware and not adobe or other tools05:30
DaSkreechintelikey: do you have a plain package named kdevelop ?05:30
jmichaelxDr_willis: yikes05:30
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB05:30
Adydasoption "twinveiw" etc05:30
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Adydasfor cloneing to my tv05:30
fiyawerxhey guys, i just followed the instructions in !nvidia, but i dont see an nvidia splash screen when hitting ctr-alt-backspace05:30
SlackRatand its not because theyre foss advocates05:30
fiyawerxis there another way to tell if your drivers are working nice?05:30
intelikeyDaSkreech no.   kdevelop305:30
DaSkreechintelikey: ok05:30
Adydasfiyawerx: you edit the x11conf to nv to nvidia05:30
DaSkreechtjz: One moment05:30
jmichaelxfiyawerx:  you may need to just reboot, or you may be using the wrong nvidia driver for your card05:30
tjzdaskreech: k05:30
yuriyfiyawerx: glxinfo should print out a bunch of stuff including something like opengl provided by nvidia05:30
DaSkreechintelikey: if you type kdevelop in the adept interface how many hits do you get?05:31
stdinfiyawerx: in konsole, do "glxinfo | grep direct", look for "direct rendering: Yes"05:31
tarelerulzI have windows bootble cd and I need the driver off it so I can use them for ndiswrapper05:31
intelikey705:31
tarelerulzWhat would I do05:31
hitmanWillyfiyawerx, try running glxgears. if it works, the new driver should be working05:31
intelikeybut i dont use adept.05:31
fiyawerxdirect rendering: Yes05:31
fiyawerxcool05:31
fiyawerxi did it with the nvidia-glx apt-get05:32
intelikeyapt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l05:32
Adydasbest way05:32
Dr_willisAdydas,  they had serverlayout sections that allowed a single screen, or tv+screem and some other things.. done05:32
Dr_willisAdydas,  first time id ever seen it done that way. It was in some nvidia-tv-out-twinview examples i found05:32
fiyawerxand the sudo nvidia-xconfig or whatever the command was05:32
fiyawerxso.. seems to have worked, hehe05:32
AdydasDr_willis: got the website u used?05:32
fiyawerxnow to try to get some actual nice looking fonts05:32
Adydasfiyawerx:  do a reboot first05:32
fiyawerxAdydas: Ok05:32
Adydasmine worked from memory a reboot it screen load failed05:32
Adydasi forget why, but wasnt hard to fix05:32
DaSkreechtjz: how many items do you see in adept for kdevelop?05:32
Adydasin short, reboot to be 100% sure05:32
Adydasunless u hav allready05:33
Dr_willisi just googled and found the examples.. may of been on the gentoo wiki05:33
intelikeyDaSkreech apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l05:33
stdinDaSkreech: http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot14uy2.jpg <- kdevelop in adept05:33
Adydasok im stuck in my own head but what do i need to search for?05:33
DaSkreechstdin: Showoff :-P05:33
Adydasdiffernt users differnt x11 conf05:33
Adydasadding options to x11confs for other users05:33
stdinyep :-)05:33
fiyawerxwhen I do a full screen glxgears (1280x1024), i get 5628 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1125.410 FPS average05:33
tjzdaskreech: 505:34
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Adydasfiyawerx:  how do you do that05:34
fiyawerxglxgears -printfps05:34
DaSkreechtjz: or type apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l  in the terminal and tell me what number it throws back05:34
Adydasi ran glxgears and its got no fullscreen05:34
fiyawerxand then maximize the window05:34
fiyawerxi jsut double clicked the title bar05:34
Adydasoh ok05:34
DaSkreechtjz: alright..05:34
Adydasim with ya05:34
intelikeyAdydas if you use 'startx' it will read from ~/xorg.conf  if you have one.05:34
tjzdaskreech: k one sec05:34
DaSkreechtjz: right click on just the one that says kdevelop3 and install that one05:34
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InuDuelistGrr.05:35
InuDuelistScrew it.05:35
InuDuelistMaybe it is my sound card.05:35
intelikeyAdydas there is also ~/.Xresources and ~/.Xsession    or is it ~/.Xsessionrc ....05:35
Adydasmy problem is if i use the clone it makes my PC monitor resolution go down to match the tv ie 800x600 or so05:35
tjzthere is kdevelop dev plugins doc and data05:35
InuDuelistHow would I go about reverting my sound card settings to normal?05:35
InuDuelistDefault*.05:35
tjzbut in terminal type apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l05:35
Adydasid like to avoid this when using the tv, or make it so i have a sererate login for tv use,05:35
DaSkreechInuDuelist: go to sound in System Settings and clicking default i would guess05:36
intelikeyAdydas sounds do'able   also might consider a second xsession05:36
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fiyawerxdo you guys like kopete better than gaim?05:37
InuDuelistYes.05:37
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DaSkreechI hate kopete05:37
InuDuelistI lurb it.05:37
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smoggyCityGhey, how would i disable the kde guidance power manager?05:38
smoggyCityGi am trying to free up some memory.05:38
intelikeykcontrol05:38
Adydasintelikey: rocking, thats what i wanted to know05:38
InuDuelistHey intelikey: How would I revert my sound card settings to normal?05:38
Adydasif i make another user ie adydastv would that use its own options?05:38
intelikey!sound | InuDuelist05:39
ubotuInuDuelist: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:39
InuDuelistBecause I think I figured out the problem.05:39
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DaSkreechtjz: You have a kdevelop (as well as kdevelop3) ?05:39
intelikeyi think there is info on that on one of those links  ^05:39
smoggyCityGintelikey: i took kdeguidance out of the services, but it's still starting after i rebooted05:39
DaSkreechintelikey: It's not sound it's MP3 decoding in xine05:39
smoggyCityGit even thinks it's not running, but i see it in ps05:39
InuDuelistBecause one of the guides I read told me to go into Amarok and change the output plugin to Alsa.05:39
intelikeyDaSkreech ?05:40
DaSkreechintelikey: You just piped !sound to InuDuelist05:40
tjzdaskreech: no05:40
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DaSkreechtjz: OK right click on kdevelop3 and choose install05:40
tjzthose are the options i get in adept05:40
tjzok one sec05:40
intelikeyInuDuelist yeah that's normal advice.   alsa = advanced linux sound arch.05:40
InuDuelistAnd apparently, changing the plugin to alsa or oss would "modify the sound device"05:40
DaSkreechCheck preview to see if it says break05:40
tjzBREAK(install)05:41
DaSkreechargh05:41
InuDuelistAnd I wanna see if setting it back to what it was before I changed it would fix any problems.05:41
DaSkreechcan you click details?05:41
tjzdaskreech: yea05:42
intelikeyInuDuelist is there not a button there for "default" ?05:42
tjzdaskreech: there is a LONG LIST of stuff some highlighted and some not05:42
DaSkreechis anything outlined in red?05:42
intelikeywhere's Jucato ?05:42
DaSkreechWhat is highlighted?05:43
DaSkreechintelikey: gone05:43
InuDuelistBah.05:43
InuDuelistThere is.05:43
stdinDaSkreech, tjz: it may be a good idea just to try "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3" in konsole, and pastebin the output05:43
InuDuelistBut it didn't help.05:43
intelikeyInuDuelist :)05:43
InuDuelistStill gives me the error05:43
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intelikeywhat's the error say ?05:43
InuDuelistMaximo. :305:43
hitmanWillyInuDuelist, try alsamixer05:44
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InuDuelistNo suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.05:44
DaSkreechstdin: Yeah I'm thinking05:44
InuDuelistfile:///home/dementual/music/System of A Down - BYOB.mp305:44
InuDuelistJust an example of one of the songs.05:44
InuDuelistIt does that for every .mp3 file.05:44
tjzstdin: i get05:44
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tjzE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:44
tjzE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:44
stdintjz: that's because you have adept still open05:44
tjzdaskreech no nothing in red05:44
stdintjz: you need to close it first05:44
tjzstdin: ok one sec05:45
intelikeyInuDuelist id try another player.   vlc  maybe.05:45
InuDuelist:(05:45
InuDuelistStuff opens in VLC.05:45
InuDuelistBut I'd prefer Amarok.05:45
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stdintjz: make sure you post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and post the URL here05:45
fiyawerx!fonts05:46
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer05:46
intelikeyok so you need a converter that works for that format.05:46
InuDuelistBut it was working earlier today.05:46
cpk1InuDuelist: the other day I think some guy fixed that by uninstalling amarok and his codecs and then he just installed amarok and let amarok get the codecs for him05:46
hitmanWillyInuDuelist: you may have to copy the plugin somewhere special for Amarok05:46
InuDuelistBut it was working _4 hours ago_.05:46
tjzok i got     E:broken packages05:46
InuDuelistWhat could have possibly happened?05:46
intelikeythen you need to undo what ever you did that made it like it is, so it will be like it was before you did IT!05:46
tjzafter alot of other stuff05:46
intelikeygot it.05:47
stdintjz: post it all to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:47
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`Z`please, have someone a source.list for dapper ?05:47
InuDuelistintelikey: You dont' understand. I DID undo what I did beforehand.05:47
InuDuelistI set the engine back to normal.05:47
InuDuelistThat's all I changed.05:47
InuDuelistAnd it still doesn't work.05:48
cpk1did you kick it?05:48
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intelikeyclose it reopen it.  sometimes we forget to refresh things...05:48
hitmanWillyInuDuelist, u could always try the win troubleshoot aka reboot05:48
tjzstdin postr what exactly05:48
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stdin`Z`: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list05:48
InuDuelistI could but...05:48
`Z`thx :)_05:48
intelikeyhitmanWilly yeah.05:48
InuDuelist:/.05:48
cpk1also screaming obscenities and ranting at it help05:49
InuDuelistShould I try just rebooting?05:49
fiyawerxman, even in 1280x1024, everything looks so big05:49
stdintjz: post what the output was to that site05:49
`Z`i have already one stdin  ^^, intelikey give me :)05:49
stdintjz: everything in konole05:49
`Z`thx intelikey05:49
intelikeyInuDuelist not likely to change anything.     but you never know.05:49
hitmanWillyInuDuelist, it'll restart ur sound system05:49
fiyawerxwhat fonts do you guys use for things like konversation?05:49
flaccid_malayaam05:49
InuDuelistMy sound system seems to work fine.05:49
InuDuelistI can listen to .wma files.05:49
InuDuelistAnd I can listen to .mp3 files on VLC.05:49
flaccid_um05:49
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flaccid_is this the same problem InuDuelist?05:50
InuDuelistAs earlier?05:50
InuDuelistYes.05:50
=== intelikey actually lies a lot too.....
flaccid_didn't i advise the situation?05:50
cpk1I really should reboot but I am so scared of that whole minute of down time05:50
stdinfiyawerx: apparently I use xft05:50
InuDuelistWhat'd you say, flaccid_?05:50
InuDuelistI'll tell you if it fixed05:50
flaccid_its a bug in xine-lib05:50
cpk1I think I made a kernel update and still havent rebooted...05:50
InuDuelistAnd what would I do?05:50
flaccid_no demux05:50
DaSkreechintelikey: You liar! You tell the truth all the time05:51
flaccid_i already answered that twice05:51
tjzstdin:ok its posted05:51
flaccid_nothing you can do05:51
InuDuelistRefresher, plz.05:51
stdintjz: you need to post the url here05:51
InuDuelistAh, right.05:51
InuDuelistThat helped me.05:51
InuDuelist>_>05:51
flaccid_besides recompile amarok with another engine05:51
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InuDuelistAnd then I asked how to do that, and you said "I dunno".05:51
flaccid_or you could bug the xinelib devs05:51
fiyawerxstdin: hmm i don't even have that one, this is gona be the biggest pain, getting everything looking nice05:52
DaSkreechintelikey: Missed the obvious logic loop in that statement did you?05:52
rayluHow do I "Alt+Tab" out of a fullscreen app in KDE?05:52
flaccid_i don't see that in my og05:52
`Z`re05:52
cpk1i dont see why lib xine wouldnt work?05:52
flaccid_in my log05:52
cpk1i'm happily using lib-xine over here05:52
DaSkreechtjz: What is the URL at the top of the page that you posted in?05:52
stdinfiyawerx: that's just what I have by default05:52
stdintjz: from the location/address bar05:52
flaccid_its a bug in the engine05:52
tjzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7314/05:53
cpk1so why does he have it and I dont?05:53
flaccid_what files does it happen on, InuDuelist?05:53
InuDuelistAny .mp3 files. On Amarok.05:53
InuDuelistI'd try it on Kaffeine, but Kaffeine doesn't open.05:54
InuDuelistThey work fine on VLC.05:54
flaccid_local mp3?05:54
fiyawerxoh05:54
fiyawerxno damn wonder why05:54
fiyawerxim only in 1024x76805:54
DaSkreech!autoconf05:54
flaccid_you get no suitable demux plugin ?05:54
ubotuautoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.60-1 (edgy), package size 429 kB, installed size 1640 kB05:54
fiyawerxon an lcd that wants 1280x05:54
InuDuelistflaccid_: What do you mean by local mp3?05:54
intelikey!autoconf dapper05:54
ubotuautoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.59a-7 (dapper), package size 372 kB, installed size 1472 kB05:54
flaccid_its on the hard disk05:54
InuDuelistYes.05:54
intelikeyi'm still suspecting that there is a missing repo.05:55
intelikeyprobably main.05:55
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flaccid_well its something worse if its all the time05:55
flaccid_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33720905:55
flaccid_have you installed all the codecs?05:55
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InuDuelistflaccid_: It was working ealier.05:55
InuDuelistearlier(05:55
InuDuelistearlier*05:56
flaccid_yeah well this is intermittant05:56
flaccid_but it usually occurs on mp3 streams05:56
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flaccid_your behaviour is worse05:56
flaccid_basically xinelib is behind the 8ball05:56
stdintjz: can you post the file /etc/apt/sources.list to the same site?05:56
flaccid_and dapper amarok was only compiled with xine support iirc05:56
xosshi.. do i have to install an anti-virus for my kubuntu box?05:56
intelikeymy behaviour is terrable.05:56
InuDuelistxoss: No.05:56
DaSkreechtjz: can you press alt+f2 and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then pastebin the contents of that?05:57
hitmanWillyxoss: not really05:57
stdin!virus05:57
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2105:57
intelikeyxoss why, is it sick ?05:57
cpk1does anyone know off the top of their head what 'A' means in aptitude?05:57
stdin!antivirus05:57
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus05:57
xosshmm.. ok..05:57
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fiyawerxwow, switching to a real resolution makes a big difference, haha05:57
InuDuelistI'll be back.05:57
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InuDuelistI"m going to just try rebooting.05:57
xosswas just asking..05:57
tjzdaskreech: in tha terminal?05:57
intelikeyfiyawerx indeed.05:57
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hitmanWillyxoss: another linux advantage05:58
DaSkreechtjz: Sorry?05:58
fiyawerxhmm, man i musta missed something05:58
fiyawerxnow i cant run glxgears, heh05:58
DaSkreechtjz: press alt+f205:58
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stdincpk1: probably auto installed05:58
DaSkreechtjz: then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:58
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tjzdaskreech: do u mean can i press alt+f2 and typekdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal?05:58
hitmanWillyfiyawerx, if you open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf, do a search for nv05:59
DaSkreechtjz: No you don't need to do it in the terminal05:59
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DaSkreechpress alt+f2 and a box comes up05:59
intelikeybox ?05:59
DaSkreechin the box type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:59
hitmanWillyfiyawerx: if it comes up, change it to nvidia then restart x05:59
DaSkreechdialog whatever05:59
markelhashi05:59
stdintjz: or from the Kmenu, choose "Run Command", in there type: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:59
tjzok05:59
intelikeyi'm just razin' ya.06:00
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markelhasneed some help adding other disk to kubuntu06:00
tjzok now what?06:00
DaSkreechintelikey: You'll see in KDE4 it'll be a glowing ball and it will cure hunger!06:00
markelhasneed to write and read files to other disk, but can't see it in konker06:00
markelhasany tips?06:00
DaSkreechtjz: It opened a file right?06:00
tjzdaskreech: yea06:00
intelikeyother disk ?         markelhas06:01
DaSkreechtjz: ok copy and paste the contents into pastebin06:01
markelhasintelikey: my pc has 2 disk06:01
markelhasintelikey: one i've the kubuntu installed the other it's free06:01
intelikeyhard(fixed) disks     i see.06:01
tjzdaskreech: contents from..where?06:01
intelikeymarkelhas and you have made a file system on the free disk ?06:02
markelhasintelikey: but i'can read or write files to it,cause i'cant mount it06:02
DaSkreechtjz: the file that opened. paste what you see into pastebin06:02
tjzdaskreech: oh ok06:02
markelhasintelikey: yes.06:02
intelikeymarkelhas do you know how to use  "pastebin"  ?06:02
intelikey!paste | markelhas06:03
ubotumarkelhas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:03
markelhasintelikey: nopes06:03
intelikeygo to that url ^06:03
tjzdaskreech: under all that other stuff i have in paste bin already06:03
stdinmarkelhas: what does "sudo fdisk -l" in konsole show? (l is a lower case L)06:03
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DaSkreechtjz: Doesn't matter. :)06:03
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intelikeymarkelhas and put the output of stdin's command in the pastebin.  then bring us the returning url.06:03
tjzdaskreech: oik done and pasted06:04
DaSkreechtjz: Give us the URL06:04
stdinDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315/ :P06:04
tjzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315/06:04
markelhasintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7316/06:04
fiyawerxhm, when i click and drag a window like konqueror around, it shouldn't be jumpy, right?06:04
tjz....06:05
fiyawerxeven a terminal gets jumpy when i move it around the screen06:05
DaSkreechI knew that :-P06:05
stdinDaSkreech, tjz: everything seems to be commented out06:05
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stdinDaSkreech, tjz: except for universe and multiverse06:05
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DaSkreechstdin: ha ha :)06:05
intelikeymarkelhas  so is it  /dev/hdb5  or  /dev/sda5   that you want to mount ?06:05
stdinintelikey was right06:05
markelhasintelikey: /dev/hdb506:06
dennisterhello ppls...anyone seen geni lately?06:06
markelhasintelikey: sda is a usb disk06:06
hitmanWillymarkelhas, or a sata disk06:06
DaSkreechtjz: take out the first line and delete the # in front of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted06:06
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intelikeymarkelhas ok   sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5    (assuming /media/hdb5 is a dir.)06:06
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tjzdaskreech:in sources.list -kate?06:08
intelikeymarkelhas does that give any error message ?      note: in linux 'no error, means no error'06:08
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DaSkreechtjz: yes06:08
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tjzdaskreech: ok06:08
DaSkreechso that top line should be deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted instead of #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted06:09
tjz# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:06:09
intelikeymarkelhas ?06:09
tjztake that one out>?06:09
DaSkreechyup06:09
markelhasintelikey: can't write to it!06:09
stdintjz: you want it to look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7317/06:09
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intelikeymarkelhas that's not what i asked.06:09
markelhasintelikey: the device is mounted06:09
intelikeyok06:09
intelikeymarkelhas    ls -dl  /media/hdb506:10
intelikeyshow me what that says.06:10
esaymSo if I am dual booting and I want to boot that windows partition in linux with vmware, do I need the player or the server version?06:10
stdinmarkelhas: make a dir in it, as root, and chown to your user, or just chmod +w the whole thing06:10
tjzstdin in that case cant i just selsct all delete and copy paste from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7317/06:10
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DaSkreechtjz: Yeah :)06:10
stdinesaym: wither the server or workstation06:10
intelikeystdin was going to let him own the drive.06:10
markelhasdrwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-02-24 03:28 /media/hdb506:10
markelhasmissing permission06:11
markelhasi think06:11
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InuDuelistWell this is awkward.06:11
Menahi06:11
intelikeymarkelhas ok     sudo chown `whoami` -R /media/hdb506:11
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InuDuelistLooks like my screen just went into a nice 640x400 or whatever resolution.06:11
tjzdaskreech: ok now what?06:11
MenaHow to delet a file with terminal06:11
stdinintelikey: two ways to achieve the same thing :P06:11
InuDuelistAnd I can't increase the size.06:11
InuDuelistThe resolution*.06:12
InuDuelistAny good reason?06:12
tarelerulzI have burnt copy of windows installer cd that I am trying to get drivers from06:12
stdinMena: rm /path/to/filename06:12
Dr_willisInuDuelist,  you just now some game crashed or somthing and kept the res low?06:12
tarelerulzIs there any reason that I can't just have the cd auto load06:12
Menastdin, ok06:12
intelikeymarkelhas  now you need to make an entry in the  /etc/fstab  if there is not one already.     grep /media/hdb506:12
tjzdaskreech: ?06:12
InuDuelistNo.06:12
Disco_StuHey can anybody give me a quick hand - I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and am trying to setup ndiswrapper - went thru and found out I have to install an older version - now it says timestamp too far in the future06:12
markelhasintelikey: yap, ok. can it be set a icon on desktop?06:12
esaymstdin: does workstation = client version?06:12
InuDuelistI just restarted because xine was acting up.06:12
DaSkreechtjz: Save and type sudo apt-get update in the terminal06:13
InuDuelistAnyone have any fixes?06:13
intelikeymarkelhas one thing at a time.  lets make it permanant. first.06:13
esaymI'll probaby just install the server...06:13
intelikeymarkelhas       grep /media/hdb5 /etc/fstab06:13
stdinesaym: workstation is a single version, not client, the server version can have clients (other PCs on a network) connect to it06:13
markelhasintelikey: i've grep the fstab and nothing there06:13
esaymIs there anything better then vmware?06:14
stdin!resolution | InuDuelist06:14
ubotuInuDuelist: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:14
esaymOh so sounds like workstation is the way to go...06:14
tarelerulzdisco_stu what are you trying to load with ndiswrapper06:14
markelhasintelikey: i've grep the fstab and nothing there06:14
Disco_Stutrendnet 424UB wireless adapter06:14
tjzdaskreech: ok tha last line says---------------deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe06:14
DaSkreechright06:15
tjzok now what?06:15
DaSkreechWhat about it06:15
stdinyou want 'deb' NOT deb-src ^^^06:15
intelikeymarkelhas ok.      echo '/dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 auto defaults 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab06:15
DaSkreechtjz does the first line say deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted ?06:15
tjzwhat do i do now?06:15
stdinintelikey: not setting it to auto mount?06:16
DaSkreechtjz: the first line is not commented?06:16
tjzdaskreech: yep06:16
intelikeymarkelhas   you can right click the desktop  select add shortcut   browse to /media/hda5  and it.   select the icon you want.06:16
intelikeystdin that will automount.06:16
markelhasintelikey: ok going to try06:16
DaSkreechOk type sudo apt-get update in the terminal06:16
tjzdaskreech: nope not commented06:16
stdinintelikey: yeah, that's one way :P06:16
tarelerulzWell, I wish you luck  I have been trying to load Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)06:16
tjzdaskreech: again???06:17
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DaSkreechtjz: Oh :) whoops sudo apt-get install kdevelop build-essential06:17
intelikeystdin or should i say thats the default action in the fstab... "mount at boot time"06:17
DaSkreech!b-e06:17
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:17
Disco_StuOkay it is doning all kinds of funky things with su mode - is there a system restore function?06:17
markelhasintelikey: ok i think it's ok, thnks06:18
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|InuDuelist|K, now that was awkward.06:18
stdinDaSkreech: just thought, we could have just told him to copy /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list to /etc/apt/ :P06:18
intelikeymarkelhas   you should probably    cat /etc/fstab    just to see that every thing looks correct.06:18
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intelikeyand that's all there is to that.06:18
tjzdaskreech:E: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate06:18
|InuDuelist|So, anyone have any idea how to fix this resolution problem? :(06:19
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DaSkreechBloody!!06:19
markelhasintelikey: i've already done it :P06:19
DaSkreechtjz: Oh :) whoops sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 build-essential06:19
intelikeyfluxy06:19
markelhasintelikey: can i change a name of a mounted disk via usb?06:19
intelikeymarkelhas   cheeter.    you've played linux before.06:19
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tjzdaskreech: the last line still says  E: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate06:20
markelhasintelikey: yes, but i'm learning things06:20
stdin!resolution | |InuDuelist|06:20
intelikeymarkelhas change name...  probably but i don't play with usb ver often.06:20
ubotu|InuDuelist|: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:20
DaSkreecheven with kdevelop3 instead of kdevelop?06:20
|InuDuelist|:D06:20
tjzyea06:20
intelikeyvery   even06:20
esaymstdin: where do yo uget the workstations version of vmware at?06:20
markelhasintelikey: i've the mounte pointe to "Digimate", but in desktop is det to usbdisk06:21
stdinesaym: http://www.vmware.com/06:21
tjzdaskreech: yep06:21
DaSkreech?06:21
intelikeymarkelhas or were you asking if you could access the fs that is "mounted via usb"  ?06:21
esaymstdin:  yea I am onthere right now,  I dont see anything about workstation versions...06:21
DaSkreechtjz: sudo apt-get install kdevelop306:21
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intelikeymarkelhas oh.    heh ok.  yeah right click on it.06:22
esaymok i think I found something, looks like it costs moneyu06:22
JucatoDaSkreech: just kdevelop (on Edgy)06:22
stdinesaym: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/eval.html <- look harder :P06:22
markelhasintelikey: nopes, just change the label that is in desktop to watever i want06:22
intelikeyname it anything you want.06:22
tjzdaskreech: last line says   E: Broken packages06:22
stdinJucato: not for dapper tho06:22
esaymstdin:  thanks06:22
stdinesaym: no problem :)06:22
DaSkreechJucato: Dapper06:22
Jucatook.06:22
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intelikeywb Jucato06:22
markelhasintelikey: lol06:22
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Jucatointelikey: you were looking for me?06:23
DaSkreecho.O06:23
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stdintjz: can you post the sources.list file again, so we can check it ?06:23
DaSkreechtjz: Ok pastebin the output06:23
tjzok06:23
markelhasintelikey: just rename, with f2, but i was trying to change in properties06:23
intelikeyJucato yeah simple where is  Q  in one of the konqueror config windows... he got it.06:23
Jucatoah ok06:23
markelhasintelikey: :P06:23
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fiyawerx!wine06:24
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:24
intelikeymarkelhas what is your first language ?06:24
|InuDuelist|Screw it.06:24
tjzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7321/06:24
markelhasintelikey: :P not english u can be sure about that06:24
|InuDuelist|Why every single possible Linux problem hits me, I don't know.06:24
|InuDuelist|But it happens every single time.06:24
|InuDuelist|(I try using it.)06:24
fiyawerx!mp306:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:24
intelikey|InuDuelist|     G-R-I-M-L-I-N-S06:25
DaSkreechtjz: pastebin the sources.list file06:25
markelhasintelikey: A minha primeira lingua  o portugs. (My first language is portuguese)06:25
Glennhello.06:25
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intelikeymarkelhas ok.06:26
intelikey!pr06:26
markelhas!pt06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:26
intelikeyyeah pt.06:26
markelhas:)06:26
fiyawerxanyone know what would cause my dns to just stop working once in a while? only happens when im on my linux boot06:26
tjzdaskreech: ahh crap my mind went blank and i hear a cricket .........so wut????06:26
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fiyawerxi can go for days on win and don't notice it at all06:26
markelhasintelikey: it's very hard to get some help there :P06:26
DaSkreechtjz: The file you have open in Kate can you pastebin it again?06:27
calcmandanrunning 6.06.1 LTS. Installed with 1gm of ram. At initial boot, my box runs 296mb of memory. as I move along, more and more memory gets utilized even after i close the programs. is there a way I can release this memory? Right now, I'm at 646mb with only superkaramba and kopete running.06:27
tjzoi closed kate...06:27
markelhasintelikey: it's 05:27 right now :)06:27
intelikeymarkelhas one reason i asked, you can contribute, by helping in that channel.    another reason i asked was i could tell english is not native to you.06:27
stdin!mem | calcmandan06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
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stdin!ram | calcmandan06:27
ubotucalcmandan: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html06:27
DaSkreechtjz: Alt+f2 and press up06:27
tjzdaskreech: how do i get back to kate?06:27
tjzok06:28
DaSkreechtjz: ^^^^06:28
stdincalcmandan: it's normal for almost all your ram to be "in use", it's just the cache06:28
fiyawerxstill wondering if anyone else has an issue dragigng windows around, too, if i even move it 2 inches, it's not a smooth move, real jumpy06:28
fiyawerxand glxgears runs great06:28
intelikeymarkelhas    is all working well now ?06:28
DaSkreechstdin: apparently Vista is doing that now06:28
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calcmandanstdin: it's normal? how can i release the cache?06:28
Jucatostdin: try mem again :D06:28
calcmandannm, i'll read the faq and ask again if i don't find the answer06:28
intelikeyall is well,  when all is well.06:28
tjzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7322/06:28
stdincalcmandan: you don't need, or want to06:28
tjzok got it06:28
stdin!mem06:29
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html06:29
markelhasintelikey: i think so, thnks again06:29
stdinJucato: yay :)06:29
intelikeymarkelhas you're welcom.06:29
intelikeywelcome.06:29
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intelikeymy e is too stiff.06:29
markelhasintelikey: going to sleep now, see u in another life mate :)06:29
intelikeyi kp typing things without  in thm06:29
intelikeymarkelhas good on ya then.06:30
stdincalcmandan: as the applications need more memory, the cache will be cleared and assigned to the app, you don't need to worry about it06:30
DaSkreechstdin: What's wrong?06:30
calcmandanstdin: okay, i was confused with cache'd memory and swap06:31
stdinDaSkreech: besides the fact I have no coffee in front of me. nothing, why ?06:31
calcmandanstdin: none of my swap is utilized at all.06:31
flaccid_!floppy06:31
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone06:31
DaSkreechstdin: Lookit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7322/06:31
DaSkreechWhy isn't main being picked up?06:31
stdincalcmandan: non of mine is either :) swap is only used when you run out of ram and all the cache that can be cleared is06:32
calcmandanstdin: got it. thank you for your help!06:32
JucatoDaSkreech: ask him to change servers06:32
stdincalcmandan: no problem :)06:32
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stdinDaSkreech: as far as I can see, it should be06:32
Jucatomight be a US Server thing (again?)06:33
stdintry with the main servers06:33
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DaSkreechtjz: listen to stdin06:33
intelikeyhttp://pastebin.ca/370029   <<< mem06:34
stdineveryone should listen to stdin :)06:34
Jucatostdin: what you say? can't hear you man06:34
tjzok what do i do?06:34
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stdinheh06:34
slyfoxWhy cant I get maplyer to play quciktime video I have downlaoded? It plays ok via firefox, but not if I download a quick tiem video - what codecs do  I choose in mplayer to play quic time ?06:34
echosypi followed a guide to get flash working on my amd64 box and now my sound doesn't work, anyone know how to fix that06:34
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slyfoxechosyp: never knew that flash works at all on 64 bit06:35
echosypi have video06:35
echosypbut no sound06:35
greywolfgood evening, denizens! :) could I request your help on a font issue I'm having with the GTK+ dependent GIMPShop?06:35
hitmanWillyechosyp: how did u get flash on AMD?06:35
tjzdaskreeck how do i try it with main servers???06:35
echosyphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34172706:36
hitmanWillyechosyp: chroot?06:36
stdinJucato: my mem script I made a ling time ago, it's sooo messy http://pastebin.ca/37003206:36
echosypfollow that06:36
greywolfwhen I start it up from the console, all the text appears as boxes kinda like this: [] [] [] [] 06:36
echosypwhat06:36
fiyawerxok, i've always been afraid to use WINE.. let me just say.. holy wow06:36
fiyawerxjust for s&g i figured i'd try to install a random prog i use in windows06:36
intelikeystdin i'll swap ya   http://pastebin.ca/37002906:36
fiyawerxand it worked, the installer and the program, right out of the box06:36
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echosyphhmm06:36
stdintjz: just remove the "us." parts from the servers, so it looks like "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"06:36
echosypi might try wine then06:36
fiyawerxi thought i'd have to worry about dlls and stuff, this is just a terminal program, but damn06:37
greywolfand the console gives this error: http://pastebin.ca/37004006:37
Jucatostdin: is that messy? you should have seen my room yesterday :D06:37
greywolfany ideas?06:37
intelikeyJucato yeah that's messy.06:37
tjzstdin:where at?06:37
stdinintelikey: nice06:37
stdintjz: in the file you opened in kate06:37
tjzok06:37
stdinintelikey: the output of mine looks like this http://pastebin.ca/37004806:38
Adydaswhere can i find what this error means06:38
AdydasAssertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 06:38
tjzok and now what?06:38
echosypso does anyone know how to fix my sound?06:39
intelikeystdin  i said i'd swap ya.    i.e. grabed yours already.06:39
stdintjz: save it, then in konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"06:39
slyfox!w32codecs06:40
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:40
intelikeystdin as to the output of yours.   it's in mb  but no indicator,   looks good otherwise.06:40
Adydasis thre a unbuntu games chat room?06:40
tjzok done06:40
stdinintelikey: feel free to modify it, it was just something to help me learn to use awk06:41
DaSkreechtjz: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 build-essential06:41
intelikeystdin that's a pretty good way to learn.06:41
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intelikeystdin i learned all i know by the try it and reformat method.06:42
tjzYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITZ INSTALLING06:42
DaSkreechMuwahahaha06:42
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stdinintelikey: yeah, it's what I call the "fun" way :P06:42
Adydasanyone even tell me what this error could be06:42
Adydasgraphics card? cpu? Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 06:42
tjzDaskreech stdin thanx!!!!!!!!!106:43
DaSkreechtjz: Happy coding06:43
stdin:-)06:44
tjzDaskreech:umm another question06:44
tjz...?06:44
intelikeyAdydas looks like trying to insert a module class and it didn't have enough input.   "normally meaning 'wrong module' but i am exscreemly limited in that area"06:44
DaSkreechok06:44
intelikeyexscreemly i say.06:44
tjzDaskreech: ok now how do i get my flash playe 2 install so i can watch vids online?06:44
DaSkreech!flash | tjz06:45
ubotutjz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:45
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash06:45
DaSkreech!gnash06:45
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/06:45
echosyphow do i fix my sound06:45
stdin!sound06:45
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:45
DaSkreech!sound06:45
intelikey!sound06:45
greywolfDoes anyone know what's going on with GIMPShop?06:45
intelikeyanyone else ?06:45
Adydasintelikey: Hrm, im just trying to run unreal 200406:45
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greywolfI've googled the error, and it seems to be related to GTK+, but I don't know how exactly06:46
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tjzDaskreech: ? huh06:47
tarelerulzHow do you compile kernel in ubuntu06:47
stdin!compile06:47
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:47
stdin!b-e06:47
Jucato!kernel06:47
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild06:47
DaSkreechtjz: read the URLS06:47
intelikeyAdydas i'm not fameliar with it.  it may have alternate modules...   check the docs ?       and again.  don't expect much out of me in that area.06:47
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Adydasthats cool06:47
Adydasi might just del and give up, bit sucks for a game supported by linux06:48
tarelerulzWell, I have some  wireless card that dose not work and I thought maybe the newext kernel would have what I need06:48
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tjzok06:48
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Adydastarelerulz: have you tryed a apt-get way?06:48
Adydasmight be easyer.06:48
tarelerulzwould that be the newest kernel06:48
Mark-Chello. is there a way to put the mru applications in the kmenu below all applications and actions?06:48
DaSkreechMark-C: try Kickoff06:49
DaSkreech!kickoff06:49
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233106:49
intelikeynewest would be at  http://kernel.org  i susspose06:49
manchicken!dpkg06:49
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.06:49
intelikeybut newest is not always best.06:49
DaSkreech!wesnoth06:49
Mark-CDaSkreech: thanks. is it available in the repos?06:49
ubotuwesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB06:49
intelikey!worksforme06:49
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:49
DaSkreechMark-C: don't know actually I've never checked06:49
manchickenintelikey: You know the one for grabbing the dpkg lock fixer?06:50
Mark-Ckthx.06:50
stdin!info kickoff06:50
ubotuPackage kickoff does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:50
manchickenHacking adept, locked my dpkg.06:50
intelikeywesnoth has the makings of the kind of game i like but all the campains are so one dementional06:50
stdin!aptfix | manchicken06:50
ubotumanchicken: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:50
DaSkreechintelikey: you want multiple endings?06:50
manchickenGracias.06:50
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intelikeyDaSkreech yeah well more like nested mapping with verable endings.06:51
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DaSkreechintelikey: Nested mapping?06:51
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draik!beryl06:53
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:53
intelikeyDaSkreech on the "few" occations that you have choices between maps the options are so 'non-optional'  they only add one side step and you are right back on the same course....   you know what i mean.      nested mapping would be like the first map is the world the next is a country the next is a battle field.  then back to the country.     that sort of thing.06:53
tarelerulzI donw load the newest kernel06:53
tarelerulzand I can't decompress it with tar -jxvf file.bz206:54
DaSkreechintelikey: So slightly more branches in the tree before meeting back at the root?06:54
Dr_willistarelerulz,  use the right command.06:54
Dr_willisor use 'unp' :)06:54
Dr_willis!unp06:54
tarelerulzWhat is the right one06:54
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB06:54
intelikeyyes slightly.  as in houndreds maybe.   :)06:54
Dr_willis!info unp06:54
stdintarelerulz: bunzip06:55
Dr_willisI forget now.. :) i use unp so much06:55
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stdinor use ark06:55
Dr_willisa .bxz isent a tar file.06:55
Dr_willisbz2 not tar. :)06:55
Dr_willisnow why ISENT it a tar is interesting06:55
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intelikeyDaSkreech don't get me wrong. i know that what i have described would take a lot of man hours and imagenation.   and for a FOSS that means working for nothing....06:56
stdinDr_willis: I'm thinking he just downloaded the patch :P06:56
tarelerulzark is not working06:56
Dr_willisstdin,  thats what i was thinking.06:56
intelikeyso i don't really expect it to happen.06:56
franklinworking for nothing is always good if you're helping someone06:56
DaSkreechintelikey: I was trying to come up with a system that would facilitate that06:56
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DaSkreechsort of a svn for stories06:56
intelikeyyeah.06:57
tjzDaskreech:how do i access kdevelop???06:57
DaSkreechtjz: It should be in the menu under developement06:57
stdintjz: Kmenu -> Development -> Kdevelop06:57
intelikeyand some "randomness" wouldn't hurt anything.   like  'woops where did they come from?'       not total chaos mind you.06:58
tarelerulzHow would I got about getting the newest kernel06:58
DaSkreechHa I beat stdin06:58
fiyawerx!flash06:58
stdinDaSkreech: ok, that's 1 to you and 15 to me :P06:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:58
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah but that's a bit more for like multiplayer maps06:58
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash06:58
SolidSourceanyone using feisty herd 4? wondering if they fixed the samba problem they had in herd 306:58
DaSkreech intelikey: They do have randomness in the maps I think06:58
stdinSolidSource: samba works here with XP06:59
tjzyay06:59
intelikeyDaSkreech i meant sub-map level.06:59
SolidSourcestdin in herd 4?06:59
DaSkreechintelikey: randomly jumping into the next map?06:59
stdinSolidSource: up-to-date feisty, so herd 4 + recent updates06:59
intelikeyyou know.  if you went this way before you know what to expect.   every time.    but it doesn't have to be that way.07:00
SolidSourcestdin: hmm, alright, maybe I'll give it another try since that was my only problem07:00
Dr_willisHmm.. i plug a card into my media reader.. and kde asks to show it in windows.. i say ok and it opens up -->  /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sdd107:00
Dr_willisthats not exactly right. :) since it dont work or show the stuff07:00
DaSkreechintelikey: Unless they have randomly generated levels I don't see how that would be less true07:00
greywolfCould someone help me with a GIMPshop problem?07:01
stdintarelerulz: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2 <- Latest stable kernel from kernel.org07:01
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intelikeyDaSkreech one way would be have mapQ  made into   mapQ1 mapQ2 mapQ3    and let $random deside which you hit this time by.07:02
intelikeybut that's more coding.07:02
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah but unless they are weighted pretty much 4 times through you would have played all of them07:03
DaSkreechintelikey: It's actually more coding to do it the way they do it now07:03
DaSkreechWhere the "random" maps you jump to are triggered by in game events07:03
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DaSkreechintelikey: Course that means that unless you are pretty good (or pretty bad) you may never see some of the maps.07:04
fiyawerx!flash07:04
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intelikeyDaSkreech what campain is that in ?     cause all of them i see have    ' nextsenerio=blah '   in them.07:04
tarelerulzI got the newest kernel how do I decompress it07:05
stdintarelerulz: tar xjf linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz207:05
DaSkreechRise of King or heir to throne.07:05
intelikeyno randomness in that at all07:05
rayluDaSkreech/intelikey, what game is this?07:05
intelikeyhave a look at the configs.07:05
DaSkreechI think it's Heir to the throne07:05
tarelerulzIt does not have tar anywhere in the file name07:05
HymnToLifetarelerulz, if you don't know how to extract a bzipped tarball, I think compiling a kernel might be a bit confusing07:05
intelikeyDaSkreech nope.   have a look.07:06
intelikeyraylu wesnoth.07:06
DaSkreechThey have one where if you win before X turns you get a new map07:06
tarelerulzI read what I thought was the command and it did not work07:06
stdintarelerulz: see the tar.bz2 part?07:06
DaSkreech They have another one that says survive. However if you kill the opposing leaders you get a new map going forward07:06
tarelerulzpatch-2.6.20.1.bz2 that is what I have for file07:07
intelikeyDaSkreech nope i have killed the enemy and also survived.  same next map.07:07
stdintarelerulz: that's just a patch, you can't compile that07:07
DaSkreechHmm wonder if they changed it for 1.007:07
intelikeyyou mean    2.0  ?07:07
stdintarelerulz: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2 <- Latest stable kernel from kernel.org07:07
tarelerulzit try open it with ark07:07
tarelerulzand that does not work07:07
fiyawerxso do you guys stick with konq as your browser? or go with ff/opera?07:08
DaSkreechWhichever it's been a while since I looked in that campaign07:08
xoss_what would be an excellent firewall for kubuntu 6.10??07:08
stdin!firewall | xoss_07:08
ubotuxoss_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:08
stdintarelerulz: download the file I posted, then, in konsole, run the command I told you, and look at the guide too07:09
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intelikeyDaSkreech one thing that perturbs me about it also is the level 3 limit on advancement   but then you have all these npc level 4/5 chars...   if an npc can make level 5 then the player should be able to.07:09
stdinfiyawerx: firefox is (imho) a better web browser than konq07:09
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah I keep trying to figure out if there is a way around it07:10
tarelerulzwhen I got to that link07:10
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tarelerulzit try to open with ark and ark does not work07:10
azzcoOkay so I was trying to edit grub and ended up having to boot from a CD. Anyone got some spare time to help?07:10
DaSkreechintelikey: have you had a lvl 3 char reach 75 exp? What happens then?07:10
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fiyawerxstdin: nod.. been getting used to opera lately at work over firefox, kinda nice too07:10
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tarelerulzthen I cut plas into Konqueror and it downloaded07:10
intelikeyDaSkreech sure there is. make new char levels.     i can advance to level seven on most chars. now.07:10
tarelerulzjust don't know where it is07:10
stdintarelerulz: right click it and save it, or copy the link and use "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2"07:10
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intelikeyDaSkreech with the default chars  when you exp+ max  at level 3 you add 3 hp07:11
DaSkreechah07:11
tarelerulzdon't have that option07:11
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Jucato!offtopic07:12
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:12
stdinfiyawerx: firefox is nice, haven't used opera in years so I don't know, but ff does the job I want it to do, and the extentions are nice too :)07:12
DaSkreechI was waiting for that07:12
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stdintarelerulz: then just wget it07:12
intelikeyJucato you were a few seconds early.07:12
franklini have a feeling that FF is heading for trouble07:13
DaSkreech!ot07:13
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:13
Jucatoactually, I'm a few minutes late07:13
DaSkreech:)07:13
franklinit's becoming too popular, and people are going to start writing exploits for it07:13
Jucatothe !ot goes for the game discussion and the firefox vs. konqueror vs. opera thing :)07:13
DonMCNHi guys. Can you help me get rid of Xfce? I have tried sudo apt-get remove xfce and sudo apt-get remove Xfce and both do not work.07:13
JucatoDonMCN: how did you install it?07:13
DaSkreechDonMCN: Bet there is some gtk lib that will kill it all07:13
fiyawerxcan always try using debfoster07:13
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JucatoDonMCN: I think the package name is xfce407:14
DonMCNI believe it was with sudo apt-get install xfce but I cannot remember. I know it was in Konsole.07:14
hitmanWillyDonMCN, try killing it through synaptic07:14
stdinor adept ^^07:14
hitmanWillyeither or07:14
franklinused to install windowmake first off years ago, but it didn't play well with KDE07:15
stdinadept is installed by default (kubuntu)07:15
frankliner, windowmaker07:15
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tarelerulzI copy that link and it has the file07:15
tarelerulzin Konqueror and I can see it07:15
tarelerulzdon't know what to do with it07:15
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stdintarelerulz: it's called linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2 ?07:15
DonMCNWhat is Synaptic?07:16
intelikey!Synaptic07:16
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:16
tarelerulzI think it is07:16
intelikey!adept07:16
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:16
stdintarelerulz: open konsole, cd to the dir you saved it, and type "tar xjf linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2"07:16
tarelerulzI took the link07:16
tarelerulzThat it  I don't know where I saved it07:16
franklinubotu is somwhat annoying07:16
tarelerulzI right click on the link you gave me07:16
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tarelerulzdid not give me the option to copy it nor save it somewhere07:17
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stdintarelerulz: you said you see it in konq ?07:17
tarelerulzyes07:17
tarelerulzI think it is extracting it07:17
intelikeytarelerulz find ~/ -iname linux-2*07:17
tarelerulzto me home directory07:17
stdintarelerulz: it may have opened in the ark plugin07:18
intelikeyignore    i'm too late.07:18
azzcoI am on a Live CD and trying to edit files on my harddrive. however I can not mount and cd into the HD does not work either07:18
tarelerulzwhen I have run ark in terminal or from the menu it did not work07:18
DaSkreechazzco: did you mount the hard drive?07:18
azzcoI was trying to but it did not work07:19
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stdintarelerulz: how did you try and open it in konq?07:19
intelikeyazzco    sudo mount /dev/hd?# /media07:19
tarelerulzit showed the file07:19
intelikeytranslate ?  and #07:20
tarelerulzI right clicked on the main file07:20
tarelerulzthe extract showed up07:20
elmerHi, All. I have Kubuntu 6-10 on an Acer lappy. Something is accessing the hard drive every 5 seconds. The drive auto-parks at 4 seconds, so the drive parks and unparks all day long, making an annoying clicking sound. Googling yeilds others with similar problem, but no solution. Any ideas?07:20
hitmanWillytarelerulz, if you're trying to install a new kernel, heres a great link to a howto http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu?s=07bb8c5384f9e761a5395c6f0ecbda4d&07:20
azzcoOh sorry intelikeymust have got the command wrong before thanks :)07:20
hitmanWillytarelerulz, its what i used for mine07:21
fignewelmer: try running lm-profiler from the terminal07:21
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fignewelmer: you may also want to look into enabling laptop-mode when you get this access problem resolved07:22
stdintarelerulz: just close konq, open konsole and type "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2"07:22
intelikeyelmer linux is notorious for that.   it's in the sync settings.    i don't remember exactly how to change it though.      .....07:22
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fignewlaptop-mode: minimizes how often HD is written to07:22
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tarelerulzdownloading the file07:23
tarelerulzhow do e I know where it is saved07:23
stdintarelerulz: it will be saved in your home dir07:23
tarelerulzthanks for what your doing07:23
tarelerulzI am really lost today everything seems to not be working07:24
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intelikeyhdparm  may be what you want elmer07:24
elmerfignew: thank you. That gives me a direction07:24
fignewwhat program was it?07:24
fignewintelikey: ubuntu defaults should be pretty sane, this seems to be the fault of an errant program07:25
dopehow would i reinstall mysql on a ubuntu server edition setup?07:25
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tarelerulzI see it07:26
fignewdope: do you want to delete all the config files07:26
fignewand start with a fresh install?07:26
dopei forgot my password to mysql07:26
dopeso i can't get into it07:27
HymnToLifeyou can reset it without reinstalling everythinf07:27
HymnToLifeeverything*07:27
dopei was trying but had no luck07:27
fignewdope: do you care about losing your data?07:27
HymnToLifethe mysql manual explains how to do07:27
dopei was trying to follow it but no dice07:27
fignewHymnToLife: yea, prob. involves using root07:28
dopehttp://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html07:28
HymnToLifedo you have root access to the system07:28
HymnToLife?*07:28
dopeyea07:28
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stdintarelerulz: have you extracted it yet?07:29
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fignewdope: try: sudo mysql -u root         then UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('newpwd')07:29
fignewWHERE User='root';07:29
fignewFLUSH PRIVILEGES;07:29
dopei can't get in with root07:29
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fignewdope: have you tried under sudo?07:30
HymnToLifedope, what's wront ? Create the txt as it said then run mysql with the given parameters07:30
HymnToLifewrong ?07:30
tarelerulzI have it extracted07:30
elmerintelikey: I tried the various hdparm commands suggested for power-management, but no effect07:30
dopei did07:30
fignewelmer: enable laptop-mode :)07:31
dopedoesn't seem to be taking what i put in it07:31
dopei dunno07:31
fignewit does all the hdparm stuff for you07:31
fignewI can tell you how if you want ;)07:31
elmerfignew: yes please. :)07:32
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n4chtheh.  installing america's army out of boredom.07:32
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dopeusing the init file doesn't change my pw07:32
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fignewelmer: 1 sec07:33
fignewn4cht: try savage :)07:33
stdintarelerulz: first do "sudo apt-get install kernel-package libncurses5-dev fakeroot wget bzip2 build-essential"07:33
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n4chtfignew: installed it, but it failed to run.  it was whining about libtiff.07:33
stdintarelerulz: then follow this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu_p2?s=cdf4fac51748c76f3377039842900a77&07:33
dopeso anyway how do i reinstall mysql07:34
DonMCNOk guys another question. I went on Adept Manager, and I searched for Xfce, and everything that was listed, I uninstalled and it took Xfce off Kubuntu perfectly. The only problem I have left is that when I installed Xfce it put on a bunch of other things on with it, and I need to remove them now, but Add/Remove Programs does not list them. Can you help me?07:34
dopeso that it'll work properly with the lamp setup07:34
stdintarelerulz: it's going to take a few hours to setup and compile it, so make sure you have the time07:34
fignewelmer: edit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf07:34
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tarelerulzI don't have hour today07:35
tarelerulz,but I am getting net soon07:35
tarelerulzso I wil back for sure07:35
dopehow do i reinstall mysql on ubuntu server edition07:35
tarelerulzI want my wireless  card to work so bad I can tast it07:35
fignewelmer: then edit it around line 5507:35
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stdintarelerulz: hours not hour, it takes ages once it starts :P07:35
tarelerulzOk I see07:35
fignewn4cht: did you try installing the libtiff packages from apt?07:35
tarelerulzeither way I don't have it07:36
n4chtfignew: yep.  and the dev packages too.07:36
tarelerulzHas ubunt had an problem with it packet installer07:36
tarelerulzI have had some problems with it today07:36
fignewI managed to get it to work, if you could send me the error, I can help :)07:36
tarelerulzstuff not working07:36
tarelerulzfire fox  then installed ark did not work07:36
stdindope: apt-get --reinstall install mysql-server (if that's the package), or you can "apt-get --purge remove" it first, then just install it again to reset the config07:37
PupenoIs there some command that would output the date in iso format?07:37
n4chtcrap.  now i can't remember what the command is to start savage.  i thought it was just 'savage'... but that didn't do it.07:37
stdintarelerulz: not that I know of07:37
fignewn4cht: try capital Savage07:37
n4chtno good.07:38
n4chtmeh.07:38
fignewwhere is it installed?07:38
DonMCNHow do I get into the K Menu editor from Konsole?07:38
stdinPupeno: look at "man date" (or man:/date in konqueror)07:38
n4chti didn't like savage all that much when i played it on windows.07:38
dopei found it the pw07:38
fignewn4cht: really? hmm, I love it07:38
stdinDonMCN: kmenuedit07:38
dopeso thx anyways stdin07:38
stdindope: :)07:38
DonMCNThank you07:38
tarelerulzis there anything like limewire in the repository ?07:38
elmerfignew: changed ...ON_AC_POWER to 1. I assume I need to restart something?07:38
Pupenostdin: I've already read man's date and I know I can write down the format, but that's too much work for every time I need the date.07:38
stdinPupeno: so make an alias07:39
fignewok elmer: run sudo laptop_mode enable07:39
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fignewit should say: Laptop mode disabled, active.07:39
stdinPupeno: or a small script, and pit it in ~/bin/07:39
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Pupenostdin: if I wanted a DIY solution I would have already done. Thank you though.07:39
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elmerfignew: it responds "Laptop mode disabled, active"07:40
fignewPupeno: 1 sec07:40
fignewelmer07:40
fignewok07:40
fignewsee if it's still clicking07:40
intelikeyPupeno if you don't want a "DIY" why linux ?07:41
elmerfignew: YEA!!! no clicking!07:41
elmerthanks so much!07:41
fignewsweet07:41
fignew1 more step07:41
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fignewPupeno: date --help07:42
fignewwill give you the info for ISO formatting07:42
stdinfignew: [06:38]  <Pupeno> stdin: I've already read man's date and I know I can write down the format, but that's too much work for every time I need the date.07:42
fignewyou can setup an alias07:44
fignewor write a 2line bash script07:44
fignewelmer: touch /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled07:44
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intelikeyfignew <Pupeno> stdin: if I wanted a DIY solution I would have already done. Thank you though.07:44
fignewnot exactly DIY07:44
elmerfignew: done07:45
stdinfignew: I already said about the alias and a script, ^^ that was the responce07:45
intelikeywriting an alias is no different than writing a script   that was his reply to that.07:45
fignewelmer: now run sudo laptop_mode enable07:45
DonMCNHow can I set my default browser to Firefox in Konsole?07:45
rayluDonMCN, does it have to be in Konsole?07:46
DonMCNOr the other easiest way, but going into Firefox settings and setting it there doesn't work.07:46
stdinDonMCN: (system wide) sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser07:46
fignewelmer: it should say Laptop mode enabled, active.07:46
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elmerfignew: yes!07:46
stdinDonMCN: for the user, System Settings -> Default Applications07:47
stuart_does anybody use enlighten,ent?07:47
stuart_enlightenment07:47
fignewelmer: ok, you can do this later, but make sure it's still enabled after a reboot :)07:47
DonMCNThank you all07:47
stdinwhen I'm not in KDE or a shell, I use enlightenment07:47
fignewelmer: I had problems with it turning itself back off by removing the /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled07:48
fignewwhen I rebooted (not sure if it was me though :))07:48
elmerfignew: thank you! I can feel my sanity slowly returning...07:48
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stuart_stdin - is there a way to iconify all windows?07:48
fignewyea, you can tweak the laptop mode settings, but there's a few things you should know about it07:48
intelikeyfignew /var/run   is in ram.   hard to make things sticky there.   use an init script to add it at boot time.07:49
Jucatostuart_: Ctrl+Alt+D ?07:49
elmerfignew: ok, i'll watch that07:49
fignewlol07:49
fignewthat would explain it ;)07:49
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elmerintelikey: thank you07:50
intelikeyfignew ffr   cat /proc/mounts     to see what all is actuall in ram.07:50
intelikeyactually07:50
stdinor just type "mount"07:50
stuart_Jucato - that doesn't work for me -- i can use ctrl alt i to do 1 window at a time though...07:51
fignewyes :)07:51
intelikeystdin not always the same.07:51
stdinintelikey: yeah, but it "normally" is07:51
Jucatostuart_: Ctrl + Alt + D (show Dekstop aka minimize all windows)07:51
intelikeystdin not in *buntu07:51
fignewelmer: just add the line touch /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled07:51
Jucatostuart_: you can set it in Sysetm Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts, look for Toggle Show Desktop07:51
elmerk07:52
fignewto the top of the /etc/init.d/laptop-mode07:52
fignewafter the #! /bin/bash line07:52
elmerk07:52
stuart_Jucato - do you mean KDE system settings?07:52
fignewermm #! /bin/sh07:52
Jucatostuart_: yes07:52
elmer:)07:53
stuart_Jucato ok thanks what do you think of enlightenment07:53
intelikeyecho "#!/bin/sh"   :)07:53
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fignewhow do you show the current runlevel?07:53
Jucatostuart_: it's really nice. eye candy + usable. but I still look for KDE/Kwin stuff when I'm on e17...07:53
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intelikeyrunlevel07:54
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stdinfignew: ^07:54
intelikeyif you need specific.    runlevel | cut -b3-07:54
fignewelmer: forget what I said07:55
fignewdo ln -s /etc/init.d/laptop-mode /etc/rc2.d/laptop-mode07:55
stuart_Jucato; yeah having spent about 15 mins - it's a bit of a relearn - tho the effects are nice. Might stick with plane old KDE interface ...07:55
stuart_woops plain07:55
fignewsudo ln -s*07:55
intelikeyhmmm odd.  tty24 [root@~]  runlevel07:55
intelikeyunknown07:55
fignewactually, I'm wrong again07:55
fignewdo ln -s /etc/init.d/laptop-mode /etc/rc2.d/S20laptop-mode07:56
intelikeyi wonder why my runlevel is not set ?07:56
Dr_willisodd07:56
intelikeyyeah07:56
Dr_willismy runlevel says n207:56
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intelikeydoesn't matter i know it's 6   but it seems odd that it's not set.07:56
stuart_jucato 1 other thing: where are the settings to make enlarge the menu font? (winter them is too small)07:57
Dr_willis6? isent that the reset level?07:57
intelikeynot here  :)07:57
Dr_willisreboot i mean. or shutdown or somthing07:57
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Dr_willisYou SICK puppy!07:57
stdinyeah 6 is reboot07:57
intelikeynot here  :)07:57
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Dr_willisHeh - ive noticed with this pc.. if i 'shutdown' the pc powers off.. .then about 5 sec later powers back up and boots up...07:57
Jucatostuart_: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts ?07:58
smoggyCityGhey guys, how would i stop my laptop from suspending whenever i close the lid?  (it crashes)07:58
fignewDr_willis: it doesn't want to leave you!07:58
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fignewsmoggyCityG: have you checked the bios?07:58
Dr_willisfignew,  yea.. just seems to be an issue with some distros.. oddly07:58
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Dr_willisnight all07:58
Dr_willishalt07:58
fignewnight07:58
Dr_willisoops. :)07:58
penguinfanhi, is there a guide how to migrate a debian server to an ubuntu server?07:58
stdincya Dr_willis07:58
stuart_Jucato - ok there are just so many menus/options already in the Enlightenment menu system I didn't think to try that07:58
smoggyCityGsmoggyCityG: no.  i see a message in the dmesg saying "apm overridden by acpi" so i figured it's an ACPI setting.  i don't know where to find those though.07:59
fignewpenguinfan: install ubuntu :)07:59
Jucatostuart_: oh dunno about e17 sorry07:59
fignewelmer: you there?07:59
intelikeyDr_willis i have manual switches.   (at power supply)  all i can get is a reboot or a final screen full of garbage that lasts until you kill the power or hit the "reset" button.07:59
penguinfanfignew: on a remore machine? it is a vserver which has debian installed07:59
intelikeyslipped out on me didn't he.07:59
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fignewpenguinfan: tell the admins to install ubuntu07:59
DonMCNI have a question, does K3b burn .nrg files? They are the same thing as .iso, except they are in Nero format.08:00
elmerfignew: ok. i'm rather a noob, so I'm getting a little dizzy :)08:00
cpk1it might not since it is proprietary08:00
fignewelmer: ok, well as long as you did ln -s /etc/init.d/laptop-mode /etc/rc2.d/S20laptop-mode08:00
fignewyou're golden!08:00
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penguinfanfignew: they wont change there whole system for me. and i doubt they will provide a image for each flavour of linux08:01
HymnToLifeDonMCN, it's a different format, so it's not "the same"08:01
stdinfignew: don't forget sudo08:01
cpk1DonMCN: but there is a nrg2iso app you can get08:01
dopewhere is my php executable08:01
fignewsudo voodoo!08:01
DonMCNOh well please, tell me where to get this app.08:01
dopewhere is php installed to?08:01
HymnToLife!info nrg2iso08:01
ubotunrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB08:01
intelikeynero format ?    .iso  is just a copy of the cd itself     so how can it be "just like iso except in nero format" ?08:01
DonMCN.nrg is a Nero CD image file08:02
cpk1speaking of k3b, whenever I burn something with it I can never check the data because it cant access the dvd after ejecting and remounting08:02
fignewelmer: with laptop mode you have to be careful though... if you save something it may not be written to the HD for 10 minutes (max) (I think that's the default)08:02
fignewand if you loose power, you've lost what you saved08:02
intelikeydd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/file.iso   exact copy.  that's iso format if i understand it.08:03
dopewhere's php installed to!?@$08:03
fignewdope: which php08:03
elmerfignew: sudo ln -s... succeeded w/o err08:03
fignewthat's a command08:03
fignewok elmer08:04
dopephp508:04
DonMCNAlright I just did command in Konsole: sudo apt-get install nrg2iso and it downloaded and installed it. It's not listed under KMenu, so I am guessing that I can use it directly on the .nrg file?08:04
intelikeyno   "which php"08:04
dopefignew: i wanna find where php so i can run executable php scripts08:04
stdinintelikey: well, it's called iso, tho id it's a udf filesystem the image will be in udf format08:04
fignewdope: run which php508:04
dope?08:04
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fignewelmer: also, if the hard drive is spun down, and you access it, you'll experience a .5 second delay :)08:05
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intelikeystdin yeah.   i was 'assuming'  /dev/cdrom would be a "cdrom" disk.08:05
fignewbut you are saving power08:05
fignewdope: it's a command: run it in the shell08:05
stdinDonMCN: It's probably a cli app, man nrg2iso08:05
fignew"which php5"08:05
elmerfignew: so, I can forget the touching and init editing? laptop mode should stick now?08:06
cpk1DonMCN: you probably need to do nrg2iso nameofnrg nameofoutput08:06
stdinintelikey: it's usually a symlink to the cd/dvd device, and you can get a udf filesystem in a "cdrom" disk too08:06
fignewelmer: yes08:06
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fignewelmer: you can test by running sudo laptop_mode status08:07
intelikeystdin don't be difficult.08:07
cpk1lol08:07
stdinintelikey: heh, sorry :P08:07
elmerfignew: (spindown) yes, I believe I can use hdparm to delay spindown some08:07
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KaroatAnyone know of a simple (ie: not Kicker) panel written for QT?08:08
fignewelmer: well, if you want to change that option, you can do so in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf :)08:08
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elmerfignew: cool08:08
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fignewohh well, I'm out, gonna play some Savage, then go to bed around 5 :)08:11
intelikeyok i'm over pouting now.    stdin.  point was not really about the fs type  but the fact that it was simply a copy of the disk.   as opposed to nero format disk images.     and feel free to instruct me.    :S08:11
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dopewhere is php installed to08:13
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fignewlol, the command "which" will tell you08:13
intelikeydope not on this box.    what is the real question?08:13
stdinintelikey: I just tend to call them images or "raw images", it just slightly annoying when people use a format to describe a type, like calling all digital audio "mp3s". you know?08:13
fignewI suppose it's /usr/bin/php508:14
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fignewthat's only a guess though08:14
dopewhich doesn't show anything08:14
intelikeystdin k,  and yes misnomers are my speciality08:15
intelikeyerrrr no they arent.08:15
intelikeytypos and misspelling are.08:15
stdinspellcheck is a godsend, but I still make typos08:15
intelikeydope what is the real question ?08:16
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dopei have an executable php script but i can't execute it because i can't just call "php myscript.php" and have it run08:16
stdindope: what package did you install? if you know the name, you can do "dpkg --listfile PackageName" to see what it installed, so if the package is called "php5" it would be "dpkg --listfiles php5"08:17
dopeit was install with ubuntu server edition08:17
intelikeydope i think you can.    php5 yourscript.php08:17
intelikeyuse tab completion08:18
dopecommand not found08:18
intelikeyuse tab completion08:18
intelikeyyou know what the [tab]  key looks like.08:18
intelikeyphp[tab] [tab] 08:19
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dopeok got it08:19
stdinphp5-cgi ?08:20
intelikeyphp-pear08:20
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intelikeyphp5 php5-cgi php5-cli php5-xsl08:21
intelikeypick your take.08:21
stdintake your pick08:21
intelikeyno no   after you08:21
intelikey:)08:21
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fignewintelikey: don't forget mod_php :)08:23
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intelikeyfignew lot of things i didn't list.    the list is long.    apt-cache search php08:23
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stdin!find php08:24
ubotuFound: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 198 others)08:24
stdin(and 198 others) :P08:24
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intelikey q php | wc -l08:24
intelikey40708:24
intelikeysome depend on php thought.08:25
intelikeythough08:25
stdinapt-cache search php|wc -l08:25
stdin49208:25
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intelikeydifferent release.08:25
fiyawerxhey guys.. just installed flashplayer-nonfree, but don't seem to be getting any sound, anyone familiar with that?08:25
fignewfiyawerx: in firfox?08:26
fiyawerxsorry flashplugin08:26
intelikeystdin that what  'q' is an alias for   apt-cache search08:26
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fiyawerxusing opera08:26
fiyawerxkonq doesn't even bring up the flash08:26
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fiyawerx(trying google video for fast tests)08:26
sturtswhat it is guys...08:26
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intelikeysturts dat.08:26
fignewfiyawerx: konq will bring it up (you just have to go into options and scan for plugins)08:26
sturtsdat?08:26
intelikeydat's what it is.08:27
sturtsah yes, sorry I'm a bit too white..08:27
stdinfiyawerx: looked at the troubleshooting part of the flash help page? http://tinyurl.com/2yrzxo08:27
sturtshows everyone doing this...?08:27
fignewmorning?08:28
intelikeyhour08:28
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fiyawerxoh, haha, im dumb08:28
fiyawerxforgot that in buntu it doesnt recognize my front line out jacks on my media center08:28
sturtsthats why I left it open...  its evening somewhere...08:28
fignewfiyawerx: if you felt like it you could configure it to detect them08:29
fignewI wouldn't be the person to goto however08:29
intelikeyhour is pretty generic in that context sturts08:30
intelikeywe are all in the same hour.  no matter what the clock on the wall says.08:31
pirothezerotime is overrated08:31
stdintime is all relative anyway08:31
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intelikeyi didn't know it had so many kin...08:32
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flake<==  fresh install of ubuntu 6.10 i38608:33
intelikeystdin if you really beleave that, just backup a little and prove it.08:33
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stdinintelikey: it's already been prooven08:34
flakeA little FYI for some of you with hardware problems and laggy games:  after numerous overheating issues, random crashes and reboots, I opened my case and removed the fan - dust caked up the heatsink fins.  I used a brush and a vaccuum to remove it, now it is running smooth.08:34
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DonMCNCan somebody help me getting my Conexant 56k Modem working?08:35
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stdin!modem08:36
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto08:36
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fiyawerx!java08:36
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:36
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flakeis edgy 6.10 latest stable?08:38
intelikeyyeah08:38
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flakecool08:38
intelikeyif you call it stable.... it is the latest release08:39
Linux_Galoreconextant dial up models are such a heap of crap (they are actually winmodems or as some would call them "software modems)08:39
stdinmy favourite term for them is "dumb modems"08:40
pirothezeroanyone have a hotswap sata array going?08:40
flakeso far besides user error, install and upgrade on this distro is smooth08:40
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Linux_Galoreflake: its a live CD so you can try it before you do the install08:42
flakebrb, bringing up kde08:44
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pirothezeroif your system halts, mouse stops, music stops, you cant do anything is there something one can do?08:48
profunhi all08:49
profunanyone know why kaffeine plays too slow videos?08:50
stdinpirothezero: press the power button08:50
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pirothezeroand if it happens like 3-4 times a day?08:51
pirothezerothen i got a problem lol08:51
intelikeypirothezero   alt+SysRQ+E  some times.08:51
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profunhi all08:51
flakeack - what happened to the screensavers - was working w/ hardware accel in gnome, after kde install, the screensaver preview windows are all black08:51
profunanyone know why kaffeine plays video files too slow08:52
profunsrry for my bad english08:52
pirothezerowhats sysrq?08:52
stdinpirothezero: look at the print screen button08:52
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pirothezerowow never noticed that08:53
stdinsome people don't know where the break key is08:53
stdinor the ` key for that matter08:54
dsmith_beryl compatible with a nvidia FX5200?08:54
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profunanyone know why kaffeine plays video files too slow08:55
MenaIs there a program bestthan Wine08:56
stdindsmith_: beryl is compatible with any hardware accelerated system08:56
stdinMena: wine is one of a kind, it's not an emulator, it's a compatibility layer (Wine Is Not an Emulator)08:57
Menastdin, ok08:57
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AdydasMena: games?08:58
Menayes08:59
stdinMena: if you want something that will work with just about any windows app, you need something like VMware, qemu or VirtualBox08:59
cpk1i suppose people might think cedega is better but you need to pay for it and it is basically the same as wine08:59
Adydassee cedega mena08:59
Adydaswine = fine08:59
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MenaAdydas, the problem i couldnt use it right as i gues i must use games wich is that in the list of the cedega09:00
dsmith_stdin: how does one change the settings, without loading berl?09:00
Adydasi tryed it tonight with warcraft3 fine.09:00
sturtsplease someone stimulate my mind #linux is gay09:00
MenaAdyda, okay i will see that again09:00
stdindsmith_: run beryl-settings09:01
dsmith_its wrecking my display09:01
dsmith_ok09:01
Adydaswine install.exe and it worked good as09:01
dsmith_stdin: the settings manager?09:01
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stdindsmith_: beryl-settings is the app for the beryl settings manager09:02
dsmith_ok09:02
dsmith_:)09:02
stdinAlt-F2, beryl-settings09:02
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Skullerguys if something has a gold rating with wine.....how hard is it to get that thing running on kubuntu?09:03
dsmith_Skuller: which app?09:03
stdinSkuller: you have to look at the version it has the gold rating for09:04
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dsmith_hmmm09:04
Adydasi wanna play UT200409:04
dsmith_SKuller: I have been able to play HL1 & HL209:04
Skullerstdin: what do u mean?09:04
stdinAdydas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament200409:04
Skullerdsmith_: ohh...yea but i was more into ut09:04
SkullerAdydas: and ya ut2003 n above are native on linux too09:04
dsmith_ok... well thats all I ever tried09:05
dsmith_I was amzed to say the least09:05
Skullerhmm....09:05
stdinSkuller: the program (game) will have a rating for a version of wine, some things will work in one version, and not another09:05
dsmith_never got office 2003 to work, but crossover software does work on that09:05
Skullerstdin: ohh....well i dont think UT99 has a rating of platinum for any version...gold is as close as it gets.....probably09:05
AdydasSkuller: dont help09:06
Adydasi still got issues09:06
SkullerAdydas: what do you mean?09:07
flakekde 3.5 - where are the power settings09:07
intelikeylater all.09:07
Adydaswouldnt work09:07
Adydasi removed it, some UnClass error09:07
Adydasor somthing09:07
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SkullerAdydas: ohh....well i just said what i heard from other ppl in this forum....so i cant sayanything further...sorry09:08
dsmith_stdin: ok I was poking around in he settings gui, and I do not see any settings except those for the display features of beryl itself. I need to adapt the driver settings09:08
dsmith_somethingis not kosher with my display09:08
dsmith_I have been able to get beryl to install fine on a newer PC09:08
dsmith_this is a 2002 series latop, not that it matters09:08
dsmith_when I click beryl-manager it starts beryl of course of which wrecks my display..09:09
stdindsmith_: ahh, you want the X server settings then, System Settings -> Monitor & Display09:09
dsmith_ok..09:10
Linux_Galoreflake: kcontrol09:10
dsmith_<--- duh should have known that!09:10
AdydasSkuller: oh i agree it should work.. sack of as...09:10
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Adydaswine with wc3 works, to be fair id never use it as i have consoles to game on.. it was more a " could i " thing09:10
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Skulleroh...well if anyone wants to play UT99 then heres a post if it helps.....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28979609:11
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ScarFreewillis there a way to set my resolution with the console (just temp)09:13
sturtswhat do you mean scarfeewill?09:13
Adydaswhat else gets done, aside from beryl.. i need somthing to tooto with..09:13
flakedisplay is not showing under periphereals09:13
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Linux_Galoreflake: what are you trying to do09:16
nepomohi09:16
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ScarFreewill1is there a way to set my resolution with the console (just temp)09:17
ScarFreewill1i want to change my number of picels that my xserver out puts via the console09:17
ScarFreewill1eg. 1280x1024 to 1600x 102409:17
flakeget the screensavers to work, and one fix says to disable the power-off options09:17
milwhy is that lil batt icon stating each core is 1ghz instead of the real speed 2.13ghz c2d t740009:17
nepomodoes anbody know how to find out what graphic-card (whats the correct english translation for that?) i have without looking inside09:17
flakeI might have been reading for an earlier release09:17
Linux_Galoreflake: you do realise screen savers dont actually save your screen its a myth09:17
Linux_Galoreflake: in fact they make you screen age faster09:18
flaketrue but I need the psyadelic colors09:18
milscreensavers prevent image retention on LCDs09:18
stdinScarFreewill1: use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" the default is to use the highest resolution set09:18
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Linux_Galoremil: false09:18
ScarFreewill1stdin: ok09:18
Linux_Galorethe best screen saver is "blank"09:18
flakei've seen old b&w monitors with burned phosphor09:19
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Linux_Galoreno power is no heat, no heat means your parts last longer and you also have a lower power bill09:19
milthen... screensavers are a good way to get rid of image retention09:20
Linux_Galoreflake: thats with a static image thats why you use a blank screen after a set time09:20
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Linux_Galoremil: nope total bs09:20
milthen best suggestion to remove the burned images?09:20
Linux_Galoremil: your a victum of the myth makers09:20
stdinmonitors don't "burn" anymore, screensavers are just there to hide your desktop when you aren't there now09:20
Linux_Galoremil: the best solution is to have a blank screen09:20
milive been using a blank white screen for 10 days and its pretty much still there09:21
Linux_Galoremil: have the screen saver timer still running just set it to a "blank screen"09:21
Linux_Galoremil: once the screen is burned in thats it, there is no going back09:22
dsmith_stdin: ok looking at beryl forums someone is running the same vid card that I am so I know it functions fine09:22
flakei just wanted to see some pretty colors and jog my video card09:22
Linux_Galoreyou cant reverse the laws of thermal dynamics with a screen saver09:22
dsmith_lol09:23
flakei still don't have any power options though, do i need to install them?09:23
milLinux_Galore: how do i check what my cpu speed is?09:23
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Linux_Galoremil: cat /proc/cpuinfo09:23
Adydasmil: cat /proc/cpuinfo09:23
Linux_Galoreor use the "cpu info" applet09:24
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milwhy is it set at the minimum clockrate of 1ghz09:24
Linux_Galoremil: is it plugged into the mains ?09:25
milmains?09:25
Linux_Galoremil: power mains09:25
stdinplugged in to the wall :P09:25
milyes09:25
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sparrmemtest says my ram is DDR401...  what specifically might that indicate?09:26
milthat ur ram is pc320009:26
Linux_Galoresparr: hmm let me think now, eeer you have DDR400 ram09:27
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dsmith_is there a command to check what type of video hardware one has?09:28
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Linux_Galorepc**** speeds dont define the class of ram09:28
dsmith_not sure if I have 128 or 25609:28
Linux_Galoredsmith_:  type free -H09:29
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stdindsmith_: for PCs "lspci | grep VGA" and for laptops "lspcmcia | grep VGA" should tell you what graphics hardware you have09:30
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sparrLinux_Galore: should i be worried if i really have DDR2 800?09:31
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Linux_Galorelspci -v|grep -iA 8 VGA09:32
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Linux_Galoresparr: no DDR2 800  is actually just DDR4 with two buses09:32
Linux_GaloreDDR40009:32
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sparrLinux_Galore: hooray09:33
dsmith_stdin: thank you09:33
stdindsmith_: no problem :)09:33
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Linux_Galoresparr: you can get DDR2 versions of the DDR533 ram now too09:34
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dsmith_stdin: I have the GeForce Go520009:35
dsmith_I want to say its 128MB09:35
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flakewhen i right click on a newly added panel, i can only modify or remove the bottom panel, not the newly added one09:37
flakewhat am I doing wrong09:37
Linux_Galoreflake: ?09:37
flakeI added a new panel, it is blank and sitting above the bottom one09:38
dsmith_where is xorg.conf09:38
flakeI right click over the new panel and Remove only lists one panel (bottom)09:38
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Linux_Galoreflake: you do realise there are over 20,000 applications and each has things like "panels"09:38
Linux_Galoreflake: whats panel09:38
flakeright clicking on the taskbar below to add a new panel09:39
stdindsmith_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:39
dsmith_nm I found it09:40
dsmith_heh!09:40
Linux_Galoreflake: yes, what type of panel I have 9 listed09:40
flakeRemove Panel  ->  panel (Bottom)09:40
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Linux_Galoreflake: I dont have that issue09:42
flakemaybe I didn't install all of kde from synaptic package manager09:42
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Linux_Galoreflake: it will list all the running panels09:43
Linux_Galoreflake: so what is the first panel and the second one09:43
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flakefirst one is the default system one09:44
flakeon the bottom09:44
Linux_Galoreflake:  there is no panel called "default system one"09:44
stdinmake sure you choose the right panel to modify with the menu ( http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot15yo5.jpg )09:44
dsmith_nope: I am not editing xorg09:44
Jucatoflake: after you add a new panel, restart Kicker. Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"09:44
dsmith_the conf file was for warty09:45
dsmith_:(09:45
Linux_GaloreJucato: I dont have to do that for any of the panels09:45
stdinxorg.conf doesn't change much (or at all) between releases09:45
flakestdin - I don't have that drop-down09:46
flakewould be nice09:46
JucatoLinux_Galore: it's a sort of bug in KDE 3.5.5+09:46
flakeok jucato I will try that restart09:46
Linux_GaloreJucato: aaah been on a 3.5.6 for a week now09:46
dsmith_stdin: ok09:46
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Linux_Galoreflake: if you update to 3.5.6 its been fixed09:47
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cpk1so I just found out I dont have flash 9 but konquerer seems too stupid to find it after 'aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree' does doing that only give me the tar and I need to uninstall it myself?09:47
flakei would have to update from the website - not in repository yet ?09:47
Linux_Galoreflake: its in "a" repo you just need to add one line with adept09:48
Jucatoflake: just restart kicker w/ the command I gave, and it will update itself09:48
cpk1install*09:48
Jucato(the panel)09:48
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Jucatocpk1: unless you enabled the -backports repository, you'll only have Flash 709:48
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stdincpk1: for flash9, make sure you have backports enabled09:48
flakeok09:48
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Linux_Galoreflake:   add  this line in with adept   - > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main09:49
binks_has anyone got eric4 or pyqt4.2 working on edgy09:49
Linux_Galoreflake: should let you update to kde 3.5.609:49
cpk1Jucato: i have 9.0.31.0.1 installed09:49
cpk1going to configure konq > plugins scan for new doesnt seem to find it though09:49
binks_ get this error when i configure09:49
binks_Error: Failed to create ./qtdirs. Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on09:49
binks_your PATH or use the -q argument to explicitly specify a working Qt v4 qmake.09:49
binks_i have latest build of qt4 installed09:50
Jucatocpk1: ok. in Konqueror, Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins -> click on Scan new plugins09:50
cpk1and aptitude doesnt look like it does anything after it gets the tar...09:50
cpk1Jucato: [00:51:16]  <cpk1> going to configure konq > plugins scan for new doesnt seem to find it though =P09:50
Jucatohmm..09:50
Jucatocpk1: go to about:plugins in Konqueror and see which version is detected09:51
Linux_Galorebinks_: tells me you havent got the correct dev libs installed09:51
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Linux_Galorebinks_: because you have QT4 doesnt means you can compile stuff09:51
Linux_Galorebinks_: you also need to install the dev libs09:52
flakesorry, where is adept?09:52
binks_Linux_Galore: ok ill look at dev libs09:52
binks_Linux_Galore: cheers09:52
cpk1Jucato: that might be the problem, I have 2 flash 9's and one flash 7 somehow09:52
flakea hint would work09:52
Jucatoflake: K Menu -> System ?09:52
Jucatoflake: where you able to solve the kicker problem?09:53
flakedon't have that installed either09:53
binks_flake: kmenu system09:53
Linux_Galoreflake: Kmenu->Programs->System->Adept09:53
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Jucatocpk1: the 2 flash 9's is normal (I also have 2 listed)09:53
Jucatobut the 1 flash 7 I'm not so sure09:53
flakejucato - could not connect to DCOP server or something09:53
Jucatoflake: hm? did you enter the correct command? dcop kicker kicker restart09:54
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cpk1i only have one libflashplayer.so in the .mozilla folder...09:54
Jucatoflake: anyway, this should work also: Alt+F2, "killall kicker". then Alt+F2 again, "kicker"09:54
flakeok09:54
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ScarFreewill1ok i got a super wead problem, at lest for me, i can't find the vertical size seting on my screen (i can set the vertical position but not size) is the possable to set the size via software eg. nvsettings/monitor&display... ?09:55
ScarFreewill1because half of my task bar is gone :P09:56
flakeCan't determine display - aborting09:56
ScarFreewill1ususally my screen auto dedects the limits/bounds of the screen and puts every thing right size but now it does not work and now i notice i can't set the vertical position09:57
flakeack my 'kicker' is gone09:57
ScarFreewill1flake: press cntl+ F209:57
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ScarFreewill1flake: ops no09:58
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ScarFreewill1flake: alt+F209:58
stdincntl ? you mean ctrl, or better still Alt :P09:58
flakeok then what09:58
ScarFreewill1flake: then run kicker09:58
Skullerwhat is kicker?09:58
Skuller!kicker09:58
ubotukicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB09:58
ScarFreewill1taskbar09:58
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Jucatokicker09:59
Skuller!change kicker09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about change kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
JucatoSkuller: kicker is the KDE Panel09:59
stdinkicker is the thing with the KMenu and taskbar (among things) on it09:59
flakeI ran it from a terminal09:59
SkullerJucato: yea...i got that...thnx09:59
flakeoh duh09:59
flakewas going into tty09:59
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ScarFreewill1so is ther i way that i can set my vertical size nvsettings or some thing?10:00
Skuller!beryl10:00
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:00
flakelet's try it again10:00
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Jucatoflake: um.. I said Alt+F2 earlier... :(10:00
flakei blame windoze, it has hozed my brain10:00
Jucatoheh yeah it's known to do that :D10:01
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flakeyou're a genius, thanks10:01
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ScarFreewill1i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh now i my nvsettings doesn't work any more10:02
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bfdhudThere is a built in composite manager in KDE right? how do I "turn it on" ?10:02
cpk1Jucato: any ideas? =\10:02
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Jucatocpk1: sorry, none...10:03
ScarFreewill1bfdhud: i didn't know that i want to know too :P10:03
Skuller"libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"...what can i do to fix this?10:03
dettoaltrimentiI have windows XP on my computer, and dual booat with kubuntu with the Grub booter. Can I format the XP partition, or will that destroy Grub?10:03
Adydasgrub should be located on the ubuntu instalation10:03
stdin!find libgtk-1.2.so.010:03
bfdhuddettoltrimenti it will destroy grub10:03
ubotuFile libgtk-1.2.so.0 found in libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-dbg10:03
cpk1this is not what i needed right before bed =(10:03
bfdhudbut you can reinstall grup w/o losing any info10:04
bfdhuder grub10:04
cpk1now I am going to try to fix this all night...10:04
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stdinSkuller: it's in the package libgtk1.2, install that10:04
dettoaltrimentiok, so what do I do after I format the partition? just install grub from adept and that's it? or do I change something else too?10:04
Jucatobfdhud: it's called kompmgr. you turn it on by going to System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Behavior -> Translucency tab -> enabling Use translucency/shadows10:04
Skullerstdin: ok...i'l use synaptic to find it....thanks10:04
Jucatobfdhud: take note, you need to have the Composite extension in xorg.conf enabled10:04
stdinSkuller: you can just do "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"10:04
bfdhuddettoaltrimenti let me find the tutorial10:05
dettoaltrimentithanks bfdhud10:05
bfdhudJucato how do I do that?10:05
Skullerstdin: ohh...cool...i m still getting used to basic terminal commands....thanks for that too10:05
stdinSkuller: saves you having to open a GUI, wait for it to load, then find the package, then choose to install it, then to apply that... :P10:06
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Jucatobfdhud: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Setting_up_X_Composite_Extension <-- you can follow the instructions there10:06
Skullerstdin: yea..hehe...i figured that...it sure is very convenient....and makes me feel good that i can actually use the terminal and learn its commands...hehe10:06
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bfdhudI'm still looking Dettoaltrimenti10:07
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bfdhuddettoaltrimenti http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2201328&postcount=710:08
dettoaltrimentithanks10:08
bfdhudnp10:08
bfdhudhope that works, I did it recently and had no problems10:09
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bfdhudThanks for the link Jucato10:10
dsmith_how can one exit x10:10
bfdhudlog out10:10
dsmith_and install a video driver10:10
dsmith_hmm10:10
dsmith_level2?10:10
bfdhudthen at the window alt+tab+f210:10
bfdhudthen log in at text prompt and type10:10
Jucatodsmith_: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login in, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"10:10
bfdhudsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop10:10
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ccherrettI am running an upgrade to kubuntu. when I run10:10
dsmith_ok trying to updated my vid dricvers10:11
Jucatodsmith_: er.. log out first.. like bfdhud said...10:11
ccherrettapt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install10:11
dsmith_ok10:11
ccherrettit just sits there10:11
ccherrettany ideas?10:11
bfdhuddsmith, Make sure after the nvidia installer is done that you sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:12
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bfdhudensure nvidia is listed instead of nv. then reboot with sudo reboot. the driver should load on the reboot10:12
dsmith_ok10:12
dsmith_writing this stuff down10:12
Jucatothere's no need to reboot10:12
bfdhuddsmith if you want, I can give you a link to an Ubuntu guide, that works very nicely10:13
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zamolxeshow's adept ?10:13
dettoaltrimentiok so in qtparted I unmounted the partition I want to format, but it under status it still says 'active.' does that mean it's not completely unmounted?10:13
cpk1terrible10:14
dsmith_ok10:14
cpk1but thats just my opinion10:14
dsmith_bfdhud: what is the link10:14
Skulleromg....i just got a .loki for Unreal Tournament and was installing it and it suddenly asked me for a second CD...whereas i have only one and it works fine in windows....where does da second cd come in?...anyone here playing UT on kubun?10:14
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bfdhuddsmith_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33641210:14
SurbI'm installing ethernet drivers on my kubuntu box, and the place I downloaded the drivers from gave me a .patch file.  I don't have access to the computer at the moment, but is there some guide somewhere I could follow on what to do with the .patch file?10:14
bfdhudworks like a charm10:14
bfdhuddsmith_ only thing different for you is kdm stop instead of gdm stop10:15
dsmith_bfdhud: Thank you10:15
dsmith_lol.... ok10:15
stdinccherrett: try "apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install10:16
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stdin*"10:16
JazonJucato: kumusta10:16
Jazon:P10:16
JucatoJazon: hi! doing fine... relatively... :D10:16
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zamolxeshrm, i think i'll stick with aptitude10:16
cpk1Jucato: it was as easy as rm'ing the flashplugin in my ~/.mozilla/plugins folder then reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree =X10:16
Jazonwell guys, I am really hoping for some ideas here.... <more>10:16
Jucatocpk1: oh.. :/10:16
cpk1dont i feel dumb...10:17
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cpk1but i think apt should do that for you10:17
JazonI have been asking in ubuntu+1, but no response.  I did a dist-upgrade to feisty  :'(  and I now have a <more>10:17
Jazonpretty serious issue with mdadm.  is there a way I can fix this, it is saying this:   http://rafb.net/p/n5Xme841.html10:18
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Jucatocpk1: unless you installed the one in ~/.mozilla/plugins in a different way, in which case apt won't know10:18
cpk1Jucato: nope this was this first time i even fiddled with flash10:19
bfdhudJucato could you please give me that composite link again?10:19
stdinapt usually won't touch a users config files/dirs10:19
Jucatobfdhud: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Setting_up_X_Composite_Extension10:19
bfdhudThank you10:19
Jucatocpk1: when you first ran a site w/ Flash content, did a dialog box pop out asking if you want to install Flash, and installed flash?10:19
xpointJazon: line 2010:20
ccherrettstdin: that worked, thanks!10:20
ccherrettwhat is -s?10:20
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stdinccherrett: simulate :P10:20
cpk1Jucato: dont think so...10:20
ccherrett??10:20
cpk1but that would have been several months ago =P10:21
ccherrettstdin: simulate are you messing with me :)10:21
stdinccherrett: nope, it make apt-get do nothing10:21
Jucatocpk1: you just might not have remember :D10:21
ccherrettstdin: then how does that help?10:21
Jazonxpoint: line 1210:21
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stdinccherrett: before it was waiting for you to confirm you wanted to update, so it was waiting for your input10:21
ccherrettstdin: is it just pretending now?10:22
ccherrettor simulating?10:22
ccherrettstdin: ^10:22
ccherrettstdin: is it acctually doing the upgrade?10:22
stdinccherrett: the 1st apt-get command you only want to get the list, the 2nd one will install the packages,10:23
stdinccherrett: so it is doing the upgrade now10:23
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stdinccherrett: so with "apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install" what's happening is, "apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' " gets the list of packages to install, and "xargs apt-get -y install" goes and installs them for real10:25
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ccherrettstdin: ah got you. thanks man very smart10:26
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stdinno problem :D10:26
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timsterWhifch packages do I need to install for PHP?10:28
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stdin!php10:28
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:28
ScarFreewill!duelscreen10:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about duelscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:28
ScarFreewill!dualscreen10:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:28
Jucato!dualhead | ScarFreewill10:29
ubotuScarFreewill: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama10:29
stdin!Xinerama10:29
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead10:29
ScarFreewillJucato: ty10:29
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stdinccherrett: you should see the instructions have been updated now :)10:31
n4chtcpk1: ping?10:33
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cpk1n4cht: pong10:34
dettoaltrimentiwhen I try to mount the partition I just formatted, it says "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"10:34
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: what is the command you are using?10:35
dettoaltrimentiwhat am I doing wrong?10:35
dettoaltrimenticpk1 sudo mount /dev/sda110:35
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: make a folder somewhere, for instance do 'sudo mkdir /media/satadrive'10:35
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n4chtcpk1:  http://slashwrist.ath.cx10:35
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 done10:36
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/satadrive10:36
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cpk1n4cht: why the change?10:37
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 that worked... I guess the problem is the sda1 folder in /media, and I'd like ubuntu to automatically mount this for me on startup- why does it say 'access denied' when I try to delete this folder?10:38
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: because root owns it10:38
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dettoaltrimentiohhh got it10:38
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: the problem was your command didnt have a mount point10:38
timsterIs there a GUI mc alternative10:38
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n4chtcpk1: because that's being hosted by the system i'm currently sitting at right now.  ;)   i can start hosting everything myself now that i don't have windows on here anymore.  no more need for dual-booting.10:38
n4chtUptime: 5 days and 17 minutes10:39
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dettoaltrimentithanks cpk110:40
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: if you wanted to you could make a folder in your home dir to mount the drive10:40
stdinjust bind it10:41
cpk1n4cht: i will admit the .cx scared me, there used to be quite the picture at a .cx site10:41
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n4chthaha.  "you've been goatse'd!"10:41
cpk1only once a very long time ago =X10:42
n4chtthat site has totally changed.10:42
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 in this newly formatted partition (used to be XP) there's a folder called 'lost+found' that has 3 gigs of something in it, and I can't access the folder even as root. What can I do?10:42
killavusHello guys.10:43
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: root can do anything10:43
killavusI have problem: I use router and I have problem with connecting to "aptitude" or sth...10:43
n4chtdettoaltrimenti: chmod 777 lost+found10:44
killavusWhen I was using modem everything was fine.10:44
killavusSomeone can help me? I'll be glad...10:44
cpk1n4cht: so how is kde treating you?10:44
dettoaltrimenticpk1: chmod: changing permissions of `lost+found': Operation not permitted10:44
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cpk1sudo chmod10:44
n4chthttp://slashwrist.ath.cx/shots/kdesexy.png  <- that's how kde is treating me.10:45
cpk1if you literally *just* formatted this drive though then there shouldnt be anything in lost+found10:45
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cpk1lost+found is for when bad things happen10:45
dettoaltrimentithanks guys. Yeah I don't know why there's only 57 gigs out of 60, is there any way to clean up the drive any more than formatting it?10:46
timster!xbfx10:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:46
firecrotchI can't find ".ssh/authorized_keys" on my system... help?10:46
timster:O10:46
cpk1the 3 gigs is used for filesystem stuff10:46
dettoaltrimentiah gotcha10:46
pirothezerotrivial question, got some folders in /media that only have root permissions, been trying to chmod it and chown it but still remains as root10:46
n4chtfirecrotch: ~/.ssh10:46
cpk1you will never get to use the whole capacity the drive has because the file system itself needs to take up some of the space, thats the simplest way I can think of explaining it10:47
firecrotchn4cht: -bash: cd: /root/.ssh: No such file or directory10:47
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pirothezeroalso whats the command to increase the 5% overhead that root keeps for itself so you dont over install?10:47
pirothezeroerr decrease rather to 1-2%10:47
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cpk1n4cht: i think my computer would start chugging if I used transparencies that much10:47
cpk1n4cht: and no amarok?!10:48
n4chtcpk1: my didn't like it too much, and this beast ain't nothin' to fool with.10:48
stdinfirecrotch: how about in the users home, unless you always login as root10:48
n4chtSysinfo for 'black': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 2075 MHz (4154 bogomips), , RAM: 463/503MB, 145 proc's, 5.0d up10:48
n4chtcpk1: can amarok connect to shoutcast streams?10:48
firecrotchstdin: I'm logging into my server via ssh, which I always do as root10:49
cpk1n4cht: yes10:49
cpk1n4cht: its under playlists10:49
stdinfirecrotch: if the file doesn't exist, then just make it10:49
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n4chtcpk1: sure as sh!7 is.10:49
cpk1i dunno why but I think amarok is like the coolest thing since sliced bread10:50
cpk1it has its own desktop10:50
cpk1and is maximized with no border10:50
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dettoaltrimentihow can I give write access to my normal user (not root) for my new partition?10:53
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stdindettoaltrimenti: is it a ext3 partition ?10:53
dettoaltrimentistdin, yes10:54
dettoaltrimentibut when I try to copy and paste files there, it says 'access denied'10:54
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stdindettoaltrimenti: what's the directory called, where it's mounted ?10:54
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dettoaltrimenti media/hello10:54
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stdindettoaltrimenti: sudo chown `whoami` -R /media/hello10:55
dettoaltrimentiwhoami should be my username right?10:55
ccherrettI just upgraded and rebooted. I forgot that I had a specially configured menu for grub to point to my second partition to boot because of a Windows dual boot.10:55
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firecrotchOkay, so I want to be able to login to my server via ssh using RSA authentication.  I created my key and copied it into my newly created authorized_keys file.  But it doesn't work :(10:56
ccherrettso I edit the grub menu to point to hd(0,1)10:56
ccherrettand it starts to boot but then complains that there is no /sbin/init10:56
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ccherrettany ideas?10:56
dettoaltrimentigot it thanks stdin10:56
cpk1stdin: what if there was data on what was mounted there that belonged to other people? =O10:56
thomaxhi all10:56
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firecrotchhi, thomax10:56
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stdincpk1: that's what a "users" group is good for :P10:57
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ccherrettstdin: do you know what might be happeing to me here?10:57
n4chtdoing a new screenshot10:58
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thomaxI'm having some trouble booting the kubuntu feisty herd 4 (live)cd10:58
firecrotchgrr... silly me, I messed up the name of the key on my comp10:58
stdinccherrett: is your root partition is on /dev/hda210:58
cpk1Skuller: some companies sell oem with linux10:58
thomaxhere is the errormsg10:58
thomaxhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=14075.010:58
n4chthttp://slashwrist.ath.cx/shots/kderock.png  <- sexah!  now with more amarok!10:59
Skullercpk1: do you refer to desktops or servers?10:59
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firecrotchcpk1: True, but you have to specifically request it from most of them10:59
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ccherrettstdin: yes10:59
ccherrettstdin: It looks like I need to reinstall ubuntu-minimal11:00
ScarFreewillhow do is see what driver i'm currenty using, not with viewing xorg.conf11:00
ccherrettacording to a post on the ubuntu forums11:00
cpk1you also have to specifically request not to have windows to save yourself money...11:00
stdinccherrett: maybe a bad install, try mounting it in the live cd and check it11:00
cpk1its a little mini amarok!11:00
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ccherrettstdin: will do11:01
Skullercpk1: hehe...yea...but is it easy for a person who has never used a computers before to get used to a linux distro faster than he would've to Windows?11:01
Skuller*computer11:01
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cpk1ubuntu... possibly11:01
ScarFreewilli messed with my xorg now my drivers are gone boom11:02
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Skulleryes the exclusion of windows license does decrease the price tag....altho in many places in especially developing countries the 'computer shop' will just install a pirate copy of Windows on the system11:03
ScarFreewillXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:03
thomaxanyone have an idea on this one ? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=14075.011:03
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Skullersorry for bringing this topic up...totally useless compared to the help other ppl need here.11:04
ScarFreewillsouth africa's punisapalty (the people that suply water and stuff like that) is going to stop using windows and start using linux11:04
stdinScarFreewill: make sure you have a line like "Load    "glx"" in the "Section "Module"" section in /etx/X11/xorg.conf11:04
ScarFreewillstdin: ok11:04
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SkullerScarFreewill: mandela's ubuntu effect ;)11:04
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ScarFreewillSkuller: hehe11:05
astananyone had problems with RealMedia video skipping/lagging when playing with realplay?11:05
astanfirst i thought it was my crappy connection, but i downloaded the file and tested, same problem :/11:05
ScarFreewill!pastebin11:06
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:06
astani was on tv yesterday, so i really want to see this clip :)11:06
astanah. mplayer works! nevermind.11:07
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ScarFreewill1stdin: its already in there i'm pasting it in pastebin11:08
ScarFreewill1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7331/11:08
ScarFreewill1!ping11:09
ubotupong11:09
ScarFreewill1:D11:09
cpk1!botsnack11:09
ubotuYum!11:09
ScarFreewill1lol11:09
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stdinScarFreewill1: hmm, that looks ok to me11:10
dettoaltrimentiwhen transferring files between 2 partitions, both on the same physical harddrive, I'm only getting transfer rates of about 6MB/sec. Should it be going faster than this?11:10
stdindettoaltrimenti: remember that the brush has to move twice, back and forth for 1 read/write operation11:11
ScarFreewill1stdin: i just reconfigured it and restarted x but i don't have 3d acceration11:11
stdinScarFreewill1: don't you need the "nvidia" driver, ie not "nv" for that?11:12
firecrotchI'm having issues setting up RSA authentication :(   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7332/11:12
ScarFreewill1stdin: i was messing around with 2 screens maybe xorg is confused with the wronge screen? or maybe its becuace my screen has a new name11:12
firecrotchIt shouldn't be asking for my password11:12
n4chti got bored and made a house of leaves wallpaper if anyone here has read the book.   http://slashwrist.ath.cx/shots/houseofleaves.gif11:13
ScarFreewill1stdin: i've always used nv it has always worked for me i can try nvidia though11:13
cpk1nvidia wont work unless you actually have the proprietary drivers11:13
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ScarFreewill1firecrotch: is rsa well the one your taking about a server/app/place? because i live in RSA its a weard place...11:14
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ccherrettstdin: I chrooted in and reinstalled ubuntu-minimal like the post said to but same error11:15
ScarFreewill1cpk1: i've got normal deb/apt11:15
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ccherrettstdin: I noticed that the root= in the menu,lst now points to a UUID11:15
ccherrettstdin: I don't believe that it use to11:15
ScarFreewill1um, i'm going to install feisty now11:15
firecrotchScarFreewill1: RSA as in public-key authentication11:15
ccherrettstdin: I wonder if it sound be easier to save all my data and do a clean install11:16
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stdinccherrett: that's normal, I'd check that the UUID is right tho, with the "blkid" command in konsole11:17
ccherretts/sound/would/g11:17
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ccherrettstdin: could that throw the boot process?11:17
stdinyeah, it couls11:17
stdin*could11:17
ccherrettstdin: ok I will try thanks11:17
stdinccherrett: if the UUIDs are right, and you can't boot, then backing up and a fresh install may be the answer11:19
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atidemhello11:20
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ScarFreewillhow do i check md5 es11:27
stdin!md5sum11:27
ubotuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more11:27
ScarFreewillty11:27
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stdin:)11:28
n4chtwtf.11:28
ScarFreewill4a5c19a18694954d94c447f71f5e2a88  ./feisty-desktop-i386.iso :P11:28
n4chtsomeone just sent me a link to the most disturbing video ever.11:29
ScarFreewilldoes not look good11:29
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ScarFreewill1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e is offical11:30
Lynouren4cht: and your kubuntu crashed as the result?11:30
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n4chti kinda wish it had, Lynoure.11:30
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n4chtcuz this video is too catchy.  despite how disturbing it is, i can't stop watching it and laughing my arse off.11:31
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stdinScarFreewill: what version is that, it should be "3de5da625407ef85be3ef54d98cf07f3" for herd411:31
ScarFreewill2maybe not i used 6.10's checksums11:31
ScarFreewill2and i have 7.04 herd 3 i think11:31
ScarFreewill2!feisty11:31
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+111:31
ScarFreewill2!kubuntu11:32
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE11:32
Lynouren4cht: I was a hint that you are talking to #kubuntu, not to the offtopic channels, so please please do not share it here11:32
stdinherd 3 md5sum = 04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe11:32
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n4chtoh yikes.  I sure am.  I didn't even notice that, Lynoure!  Thanks!11:32
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stdinScarFreewill, ScarFreewill2, ScarFreewill1 (logged on enough :P ): download from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/herd-4/11:33
ScarFreewill2hehe i've got the worst internet in the world i'm only loged in with ScarFreewill2 the rest i can't contorle (my internet brakes 24/7)11:34
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stdinScarFreewill2: have you registered your nick ?11:35
ScarFreewill2yes as ScarFreewill11:36
stdinyou can kill the other 2 and get back to ScarFreewill then11:36
dsmith_nope beryl still does not show any sort of theme11:36
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dsmith_and there are like 22 desktops on my lower panel11:36
dsmith_ugh11:36
ScarFreewill2ok i'm sure now that i have alpha 3 this is my md5sum "04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe  feisty-desktop-i386.iso"11:37
stdinScarFreewill2: use /msg NickServ ghost NickName password11:37
ScarFreewill2stdin: how do i get back on ScarFreewill because it says it already in use,,,11:37
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ScarFreewill2 /nick ScarFreewill says [Nick]  Nickname already in use, try a different one.11:37
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ScarFreewill2o nwm11:38
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ScarFreewillcool thx stdin11:38
stdinrecover :P11:38
stdinnp :)11:38
stdinsaves me some confusion :P11:38
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snamahey all11:43
snamawhats up?11:43
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stdinthe sky?11:43
snamayeah11:43
snamai need help11:43
stdinask away11:44
snamai need to mount my slave harddrive11:44
snamaIDE11:44
snamaanyone?11:44
stdinwhat's the device? /dev/hdb1 ?11:44
snamayes11:44
stdinwhere do you want to mount it?11:45
snamahdb5 actually is the ext3 partition11:45
snamaso i need hdb511:45
snamawhat do you mean?11:45
stdinand you want to mount it where?11:45
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snamawhat do you mean where? i want to access it11:46
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stdinsnama: you have to mount it somewhere to get to it11:46
stdinlike /media/hdb5 for example11:46
snamaaah11:46
snamaallright11:46
snamayes11:46
snamanow i get it11:46
snamayeah we can take media11:47
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ccherrettstdin: thanks for all your help tonight. I need some sleep but will get back to this tomorrow11:47
stdinsnama: 1st you need to make the directory11:47
snamahaha its morning here in sweden11:47
snamaok11:47
stdinccherrett: no problam, that's why I'm here :)11:47
ccherrettstdin: 3:45 AM in Canada :)11:47
ccherrettlater11:47
stdinccherrett: 10:47 am here  (UK)11:48
stdinlater11:48
SolidSourcelol he in same time zone I am11:48
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SolidSourceso whats goin on this night/morning....whatever it is..11:50
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kubuFireHi!! I just install Kubuntu, and I try to install my modem. From instructions I must install build-essential. I find in my cd and it find some dependecies ? What I must do ?11:50
gasparrebuon giorno11:50
stdinkubuFire: use adept to install it11:51
gasparrequalcuno sa aiutarmi per mettere kubuntu in ita ??11:51
stdin!it | gasparre11:51
ubotugasparre: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:51
snamastdin you mean create a directory? coz thats not possible in media right now11:51
stdinsnama: I'll tell you how to :)11:51
gasparre!it11:51
gasparregiorno11:52
kubuFirestdin: I try with adept and with dpkg -i but I have not internet and it cannot resolve dependecies...11:52
stdinsnama: open konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole) and type "sudo mkdir /media/hdb5" (you'll need to enter your password)11:52
stdinkubuFire: make sure your CD is in your sources.list (sudo apt-cdrom add)11:53
snamadone11:53
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stdinsnama: to mount it, you should just be able to do "sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5" now11:54
snamanice11:54
SolidSourcekubuFire: you need internet, can't really resolve the dependencies without....unless you have the DVD version, it should be on that11:54
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stdinSolidSource: the dependencies for build-essential are on the alternative cd, which I'm pretty sure he has11:55
snamathat11:55
snamathanks man*11:55
stdinno problem :)11:55
snamabut i changed hda5 to hdb511:55
SolidSourcestdin: well..I only use the DVD...so don't know what all is on the alternative11:56
stdinsnama: that's just be making silly typos :P11:56
kubuFirestdin, SolidSource : I have the common cd from kubuntu site (Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy)11:56
stdinkubuFire: you say you found the package build-essential on the CD?11:56
kubuFirestdin: yes, i try right click install but not work11:57
stdinkubuFire: where on the CD is it?11:57
kubuFirestdin: As I remember .../ubuntu/sth/b/build-essentials and ubuntu was a shortcut/link11:57
kubuFirestdin: \pool\main\b\build-essential the exact path11:59
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stdinkubuFire: when you boot from the cd, what type of installer do you see, a graphical desktop or a text installer?11:59
kubuFirestdin: graphical12:00
ScarFreewillthere is an evil file in my home root called12:00
ScarFreewill!2012:00
ScarFreewilluU2TT12:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 20 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:00
ScarFreewilli can't see most of those fonts12:00
SolidSourcesame here12:01
stdinkubuFire: you need to add the CD to the source list, with the command "sudo apt-cdrom add" then install build-essential with adept12:01
ScarFreewilli can't set its permitions i can't delete it..12:01
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stdinScarFreewill: can you see it in konqueror?12:01
ScarFreewillyes12:01
SolidSourcescarfeewill: check its properties12:01
stdincan you modify it in that?12:01
thomaxdoes anyone knows where I can see what driver is used for my dvd drive12:02
stdin(and change the bloody name)12:02
kubuFireok thanks12:02
ScarFreewilli can open it with kate and save to it and then delete it but it just comes back12:02
stdinthomax: try the command "lsmod | grep cdrom"12:02
thomaxgives nothing back12:03
thomaxthomas@LINUXBOX:~$ lsmod | grep cdrom12:03
thomaxthomas@LINUXBOX:~$12:03
SolidSourcescarfeewill: sounds like someone planted something in a program you installed..or you got hacked12:04
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ScarFreewillSolidSource: i'm guessing its via something i intalled12:04
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ScarFreewillSolidSource: my router doesn't evern allow to be pinged...12:04
SolidSourcescarfeewill: me too...but don't know how to get rid of it, haven't had such issues12:05
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ScarFreewillSolidSource: i think it might be related to wine do you use wine or have ever used it?12:06
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SolidSourcescarfeewill: yeah I use wine, but what kind of file did you say it was?12:06
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ScarFreewillit does not have an extension12:06
ScarFreewillit does not contain data as var as i know12:07
ScarFreewill*far12:07
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SolidSourcescarfeewill bitdefender might work: http://www.bitdefender.com/site/view/Download-Free-Products.html12:08
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SolidSourceif its a virus, spyware or something12:08
ScarFreewill?!2?0?????????uU??????2?T????T is how the console pics it up12:08
ScarFreewilland konqueror as "12:09
ScarFreewill!2012:09
ScarFreewilluU2TT12:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 20 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:09
SolidSourceScarFreewill: you also could try installing spybot under wine....its supposed to work,,,but I don't know12:09
ScarFreewillSolidSource: it does not mind, i can just recreate my user12:10
SolidSourcehuh?12:10
ScarFreewillSolidSource: i don't run wine as root so it should not efect other users and there for if i create a other user there will be no such file12:11
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SolidSourcescarfreewill true12:11
ScarFreewillbut i'm anyways going to try to install feisty now...12:12
SolidSourcelol downloading all that myself right now12:12
ScarFreewillhehe12:13
stdinI've been on feisty since herd1 :)12:13
SolidSourceI tried it, but samba wouldn't work12:13
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SolidSourceit supposed to work in herd 4 though12:13
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stdinworks here12:13
ScarFreewillherd 1 did not work for me...12:14
ScarFreewilli reported the bug colen wattson fixed it in herd312:14
ScarFreewillso i'm going to try it...12:14
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stdinI'm not on herd1 now, I do a dist-upgrade at least once a day you know12:14
SolidSourcehey anyone know of any antivirus with realtime scanning? everything I find is all manual, but thats not very preventative12:15
ScarFreewillhehe12:15
thomaxWhen I try to install feisty herd 4 alternate cd, I get the errormsg that my cdrom was not detected and could therefor not be mounted, this is because of the jmicron ide chipset, now I was wondering, would this problem go away if I buy a SATA dvdrw ?12:15
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stdinSolidSource: virus? what's that?12:15
ScarFreewillthomax: what sata dvdrw here in RSA we only have ide !!!!!!!! :((12:15
stdinthomax: feisty support in #ubuntu+112:16
SolidSourcestdin: lol true...12:16
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ScarFreewilli've been w8ing for sata roms from like 200512:16
ScarFreewill:'(12:16
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thomaxthey exist nox :)12:17
thomaxnow12:17
ScarFreewillwhere do you live..12:17
stdins/where/in what universe/12:17
thomaxbelgium12:18
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fairmanHi, i have problem with Kopete. My ICQ password is saved in KDE Wallet and when i start Kopete i must write my password for KDE Wallet, but now, there is not any password dialog and i can not connect to ICQ.12:18
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SolidSourcethats odd12:19
stdinthe only time this PC is off, is when there is a power cut12:20
thomaxtry erasing your kopete config files in ~/.kde/share/config and ~/.kde/share/apps12:20
thomaxand start over12:20
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SolidSourceI turn mine off only when I leave for a few days12:20
Fooftyberyl keeps dropping back to kwin with the error: beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 012:21
Fooftyberyl: No manageable screens found on display :0.012:21
FooftyGAH12:21
stdinI keep it on, so I can ssh in it it12:21
ScarFreewill!beryl12:21
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:21
Fooftyah thnx =] 12:21
SolidSourceI can't use any form of remote access at all with the ISP I have12:21
stdinSolidSource: you can't connect on any port? you can choose one other than 2212:21
ScarFreewillSolidSource: same here, but its not only isp its bandworth too12:22
SolidSourcestdin: no its that my ISP blocks all incoming completely12:22
SlackRatanyone try nUbuntu?12:22
ScarFreewill!nubuntu12:23
SolidSourcestdin: scarfreewill: due to bandwidth limitations as well *at least that sthe claim*12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
ScarFreewillwhat is nubuntu?12:23
timster#12:23
SolidSourceI prefer Kubuntu Satanic Edition12:23
stdinSolidSource, ScarFreewill: FreeNX works well over low bandwidths12:23
SlackRatunofficial pen testing distro based on ubuntu with fluxbox12:23
timsterIs there a Konquoror replacement?12:23
SlackRatsatanic edition is just a theme, isnt it?12:24
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Jucatotimster: as a file manager?12:24
JucatoSlackRat: yes it is12:24
timsterYeah12:24
SolidSourceSlackRat: yeah12:24
stdinI don't get how an ISP can block ALL ports, if they did you wouldn't be able to receve any data at all12:24
SlackRatmay download it just to scare people away from my puter, heh12:24
SolidSourcestdin: again, my ISP blocks all incoming on every single port there is12:24
JucatoSlackRat: http://www.nubuntu.org/ just 2-3 secs in Google12:24
stdinSolidSource: I don't get how an ISP can block ALL ports, if they did you wouldn't be able to receve any data at all12:25
caris_mereKontact is crashing: singal 11 (SIGSEGV). THis is the first use of the program12:25
SlackRatwhy?12:25
ScarFreewillstdin: wouldn't that just block all incoming data?12:25
SolidSourcestdin: they block it from receiving incoming that originated outside the ISPs system12:25
SlackRati asked if anyone tried it, why do you assume i m asking about what it is?12:25
Jucato<ScarFreewill> what is nubuntu?12:26
SolidSourcenever even heard of it12:26
Jucatoer sorry SlackRat12:26
SlackRatheh, np12:26
stdinSolidSource: so how would you receve data from irc.freenond.net (for example)?12:26
SlackRatunofficial pen test distro12:26
Jucatoso many 'S' tonight...12:26
ScarFreewillhttp://www.nubuntu.org/12:26
stdin*freenode12:26
SlackRatmany every night, you need assistants.....12:26
fairmanthomax: I tried it, but it is still bad, i can not login and Kopete do not try to login .... still offline12:26
SlackRat:)12:26
JucatoSlackRat: nah. this is the only night you have 4 's' nicks talking all at once :D12:26
SolidSourcestdin: the connection didn't originate from freenode, I told it to connect to freenode, thus opening that single port for that connection only12:27
SlackRatoh, that  S.....12:27
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SlackRatits  always a bit hectic tho12:27
SolidSourceLOL12:27
stdinSolidSource: so they use some kind of NAT?12:27
caris_mereCan anybody help me with the Kontact problem?12:27
SolidSourcestdin: yeah, NAT proxy, whatever they do12:27
stdinSolidSource: get a new ISP :P12:28
caris_mereIt crashes on startup, giving a singal 112:28
SolidSourcestdin: wish I could12:28
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SolidSourcestdin this is the only broadband service in my area12:28
fairmanHow can i start kde wallet?12:28
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stdinSolidSource: that sux, with my ISP I have no limits like that12:29
SolidSourceSlackRat: nubuntu looks.....kind of horrible, its basically xubuntu with some tweaks12:29
SlackRatit is, regular ubuntu has no problem finding my wifi......the pen test distro has no tools to configure it and half the command line tools arent there12:30
SolidSourcestdin: yeah, but you have better technology where you live12:30
SlackRatthe forum vanished.....12:30
ScarFreewillstdin: my isp is the worst in the world12:30
SlackRatcould give the distro on the whole a bad time of it.....12:30
SlackRathorrible is a good word for it12:30
ScarFreewillstdin: my isp blocks out bittorent and all p2p12:30
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stdinScarFreewill: UniNet Communications ?12:31
SlackRatits actually fluxbox i think......12:31
SolidSourceScarFreewill: lol well mine doesn't do that, although it blocks ppl from trying to download from me12:31
SlackRatat least xubuntu would have some tools on it12:31
ScarFreewillstdin: sometimes when i use to much ports then my internet restarts12:31
stdinScarFreewill: and you can use encryption with torrents, so they can't block it12:31
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SolidSourceScarFreewill: what internet do you got? you live in china?12:32
ScarFreewillSolidSource: they bock me form all stuff like ppl downloading form me and even ping and then they block me form downloading from some places and ports12:32
LynoureDon't we all share the same Internet? :)12:32
SolidSourceScarFreewill: understand that...but who what how12:32
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SolidSourceLynoure: yeah, in essence, but the ISP can kill ya12:33
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caris_mereAny clues to why my computer no longer recognizes (connects to) my mp3 player?12:34
ScarFreewill1ok there i got another crash...12:34
ScarFreewill1SolidSource: south africa12:34
ScarFreewill1stdin: i can't12:34
ScarFreewill1stdin: one upload speed is 0.00000001 bytes/sec12:34
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thomas_what ind of mp3player?12:35
SolidSourcestdin: know what the funny thing is, this is the only broadband ISP in my area and I'm supposed to get a 2.5Mbs connection, but I never see speeds higher than 50 Kbs12:35
caris_merethomas_: it is odys12:35
stdinSolidSource: DSL?12:35
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ScarFreewill1stdin: two if i have to much connetions open eg. even browsing form to many differant sites then my internet restarts like it just did12:35
thomas_is it just a removable disk kinda thing or you need drivers?12:35
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SolidSourceScarFreewill1: oh...sorry...12:35
stdinScarFreewill1: ouch12:35
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SolidSourcestdin: nope...wireless12:36
caris_merethomas_: I thought is was just removable disk, as I hadn't installed any drivers and it worked12:36
ScarFreewill1my brother plays planeshift and it crashes the whole time, shame12:36
SolidSourcestdin: got an ugly antenna on my roof and a hole in my wall thanks to them12:36
stdinSolidSource: yeah, but wireless over what?12:36
thomas_caris_mere: plug it in and check kcontrol > administration > disks and filesystems and see whether its recognised12:37
SlackRatplaneshift seems to do that12:37
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stdinSolidSource: all, it's "public" wireless (that you pay for)12:37
thomas_if yes, make a pount point and enable it12:37
SolidSourcestdin: check their site www.readytek.com12:37
SolidSourcestdin: oops www.readytek.net12:37
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stdinSolidSource: same site :P12:37
SolidSourcelol12:38
SolidSourcemust redirect ya12:38
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ScarFreewillwell my internet is acctually quite good compaired to some other here in south africa12:38
SolidSourceand you can be happy its not Nigeria where my friend is12:38
caris_merethomas_: not it doesn't seem to be recognized, and the player itself doesn't say USB READY, as it should12:38
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ScarFreewilli pay 42 usd for broken 64kilobits NOT bytes/sec12:39
ScarFreewillwith less than a byte/s upload12:39
SolidSourceScarFreewill: I pay $39....12:39
_Johnyhey guys. Just a little question: How do keep clean and helthy my linux. Is there anything I can do?12:39
fairmanI am back, my Kopete problem was solved by restart system ....12:39
ScarFreewill_Johny: just don't install weard stuff i gues12:40
thomas_caris_mere: have you tried it on another PC12:40
_JohnyScarFreewill: is that all'12:40
SolidSource_Johny: also "sudo aptitude autoclean" every now and then12:40
_Johnyok12:40
stdinI have 4Mb/s cable connection for 25.00/month12:40
ScarFreewillSolidSource: is that for your apt pkgs?12:40
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caris_merethomas_: no, it works with XP, but I haven't tried with another linux machine.  THe thing is, it worked on this computer with Kubuntu, but no longer.  Even then it was not regularly recognized12:41
SolidSourceScarFreewill: yeah, cleans basically everything, except self compiled stuff12:41
thomaxdid you change anythng in configuration before it stopped working?12:42
ScarFreewillwow12:42
thomaxi'm gonna eat now, laters12:42
ScarFreewillcya12:42
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caris_merethomax: I had to reinstall all os on my computer,12:42
SolidSourcestdin: thats about $50 US12:42
stdinSolidSource: yeah, but it sounds more that it is like that :P12:43
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_Johnyshould I delete files in my home dir when I no longer need them?12:43
thomax|awaydo you have libusb and usbutils installed?12:43
SolidSourcestdin: and we have to pay canywhere from $60 to $100 here12:43
ScarFreewillSolidSource: lol i pay more than you :P12:43
thomax|awayI'm off nox12:43
thomax|awaynow12:43
_JohnyMaybe "--purge" option can do that for me..12:44
SolidSourceScarFreewill: you pay more and you get screwed more...interesting combo12:44
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ScarFreewillSolidSource: the south african combo12:44
SolidSourcestdin: though, when I move I can get a 7Mbs connection for $29 US12:44
SolidSourcestdin: and that price remains for the lifetime of the service12:45
stdinSolidSource: is that 7Mb/s or up to 7Mb/s ? there is a difference12:45
ScarFreewillthe fastest internet in south africa as far as i know for public is 4mb/s12:45
SolidSourcestdin: true....its DSL, so up to12:45
ScarFreewilli can rather buy a house instead of buying that...12:46
SolidSourcestdin: but still12:46
stdinSolidSource: for an extra 10/month (about $20) I can get 10Mb/s, not up to 10, but a constant 10Mb/s12:46
SolidSourceScarFreewill: lol sucky12:46
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SolidSourcestdin: yeah, all of Europe is that way...newer technology...we in the US get screwed12:47
stdinhey, you had HD first, that's something :P12:47
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SolidSourcestdin: we have everything first....Europe and other places just better it, putting us out12:48
ScarFreewillppl form a computer mag did a test 2 years ago and found out that its cheaper and MUCH faster to fly to china and back to download over 80gb12:48
stdinheh12:48
SolidSourcelol12:48
ScarFreewillwe had curuption first and bad sectors...12:49
ScarFreewillstuff like that..12:49
blue|palmI know this is completely off topic but ill ask anyway... does anybody know how you would distribute a mysql database along with a program that you wrote?12:49
SolidSourceyeah I have done studies in my Political Sciece  classes on South Africa12:49
ScarFreewillblue|palm: what api?12:49
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blue|palmScarFreewill: Im using python and MySQLdb12:50
ScarFreewillblue|palm: sorry i only know to do that with java..12:50
SlackRattheres a topic?12:50
SlackRat:-P12:50
stdinblue|palm: maybe ask in #mysql ?12:51
Jucato!topic12:51
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic12:51
stdinSlackRat: yeah, just type /topic to see it12:51
blue|palmScarFreewill: Everything runs great and the database contains the data required for the program, but if i needed to move it onto another machine, do i need to setup mysql on that machine and register the database all over again?12:51
SolidSourceblue|palm LOL you were more on topic, than we were...but ssshhh12:51
blue|palmSolidSource: lol :)12:51
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SlackRatim old school, i scroll12:52
JucatoSlackRat: basically "Kubuntu-related *support* questions" is the topic.12:52
blue|palmScarFreewill: I can program in java as well so tell me anyway :)12:52
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SolidSourceblue|palm: could you possibly just copy the files needed...?12:52
blue|palmstdin: mysql is really quite12:52
SlackRati was responding to blue palm saying he was off topic.......12:53
blue|palmSolidSource: i could do that, but then do i need to register the mysql db again on that pc?12:53
blue|palmSolidSource: That would be a hassle for the user of the program who just wants to play the game...12:53
SlackRatthe :-P implies, tongue in cheek, joking........12:53
SolidSourceblue|palm: hmm, good question12:53
SlackRatjucato, please stop drinking coffee....... :-P12:53
ScarFreewillcan you maybe host the db over a network?12:53
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blue|palmScarFreewill: no... the program was intended to run standalone12:54
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ScarFreewillum, then i don't know,,,12:54
SolidSourceblue|palm: if its intended to run standalone, than just copying the file should work just fine12:54
JucatoSlackRat: yeah, my reply was my obviously futile attempt at a retort... :P12:54
SlackRatheh12:55
SolidSourceJucato: slackrat: we need a sarcasm button for IRC12:55
Jucatodefinitely...12:55
blue|palmSolidSource: ok... i was just wondering... wouldnt it need a server?12:55
stdinjust use tags :P12:55
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blue|palmSolidSource: The target computer. wouldnt it need a mysql server?12:55
SolidSourceblue|palm: I don't know, depends on the program12:56
SlackRata sarcasm icon, or button?12:56
JucatoI always seem to forget that sarcasm doesn't work online as it does offline... :(12:56
stdinSolidSource: like: message </sarcasm> :P12:56
blue|palmlol12:56
SolidSourceblue|palm: yeah true, but once you install it the first time, it will be ther12:56
SlackRattrue, a study was done where 90 percent of email writers assume what they say is understood, and only fifty percent get the gist of what was intended12:56
blue|palmok12:56
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SlackRatwe got a 40 percent error margin, lol12:56
blue|palmSolidSource: Maybe ill have to make the mysql server a dependency for this game12:57
SlackRatis thinking of an idea another idea?12:57
SolidSourceI think the error margin in IRCs are close to about our 80-97%12:57
SlackRatand if so, which one do we think about?12:57
ScarFreewillblue|palm: that might be a easy way of fixing it12:57
SlackRathmn, we need an existential angst button too12:57
SolidSourceblue|palm: yeah, probably would be easiest12:57
SlackRatlol solid12:57
stdinblue|palm: maybe you could use a sqlite db, that's less of a big dep12:58
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ScarFreewilli don't know much about it...12:58
ScarFreewilli love java :)12:59
SolidSourcePerl for the win12:59
ScarFreewilli don't know that either :P12:59
ScarFreewilli'm still in school01:00
ScarFreewillhe01:00
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ScarFreewillit teachers in south africa is super dum01:00
blue|palmstdin: hmm in java i could just connect using the jdbc driver to connect to a database file without a mysql server running... does anyone know if that is possible from within python01:00
SolidSourceok....that word is band,,,,school...uuuuggg *shivers*01:00
ScarFreewilli hack the IT class' computers01:01
ScarFreewillhaha lol01:01
ScarFreewillthey use xp...01:01
stdinblue|palm: don't know, I'm only just learning python01:01
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stdinScarFreewill: just bring in a kubuntu live cd and freak the teacher out :P01:02
blue|palmstdin: ok01:02
ScarFreewilli can delete ppl's projects but i'm not that mean01:02
Jucatoha there!01:02
ScarFreewillstdin: i put dsl on flashdrive, :O01:02
SolidSourceScarFreewill: when i was at a networking conference, they were showing how F-secure was able to block the hacking and the guy was using a linux machine to hack windows01:02
Jucatostdin: I think this is enough for me [/sarcasm] 01:02
JucatoAutoreplace rocks!01:02
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stdinheh01:03
ScarFreewillSolidSource: they just run northen 2005 with old defs on one pc...01:03
SolidSourceScarFreewill: it was just funny, cause they were showing how to hack...course most of us already know how to hack01:03
stdinScarFreewill: northen?01:03
stdinScarFreewill: ahh, norton?01:04
SolidSourceScarFreewill: is that like Norton?01:04
ScarFreewillyeah..01:04
stdinyou know hacking is 100% legal01:04
ScarFreewillye01:05
SolidSourceScarFreewill: you should go and hack them and then say "pay me and I will secure your network"01:05
stdinit's cracking that isn't </pedantic>01:05
Jucatohacking != cracking01:05
stdinalthough hacking windows is illegal, as it's closed source01:06
SlackRatnot according to the jargon file01:06
SolidSourcehey, hacking gives me a reason to have a windows machine01:06
stdinthe jargon file is wrong then01:06
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stdina 4 year old could crack windows01:07
SolidSourcecourse I do it primarily to toy with my friends head...cause he just starts freaking out01:07
Jucatoa 4 year old can crack your computer open :D01:07
Jucatobut of course, we are getting offtopic, right? :D01:07
stdindon't give a 4 year old a hammer then :P01:07
SolidSourcedon't trust kids at all...01:08
SlackRatdunno stdin.....i ll take a definition from ESR, Devs, Linus Torvalds and countless others over a definition that limits hacking to penetration testing versus malicious intrusion.......01:08
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SlackRatweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!01:08
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SlackRatdoes that day apply to everything ?01:08
SolidSourcehey, if no one is asking question...no reason not to talk about something01:08
Jucatostdin: just made another command alias01:09
Jucato:D01:09
stdinJucato: as long as it isn't /kick stdin :P01:09
SolidSourceoh now that alias sounds fun01:09
Jucatoof course not01:10
SolidSourcelol01:10
Jucatodon't want to abuse my cow powers lol01:10
Jucato[/sarcasm] 01:10
Jucato!ot01:10
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:10
SolidSourcecow? no, its about the ducks01:10
Jucatoer sorry01:10
Jucatowrong command!!!01:10
stdinSuper Cow powers are cool01:10
Jucato#kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!01:10
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SolidSourcelol01:10
stdinheh, I think you'll be using that one a lot01:11
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SolidSourcethe problem with that would be how can we catch questions to be able to answer them if we are in a different chat window01:11
Jucatoit's like this, people are complaining that #kubuntu-offtopic is dead so why bother talking about offtopic stuff there. so, now they know how to keep it alive! heheh :)01:12
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JucatoSolidSource: huh? you can be in 20 channels all at once01:12
SolidSourcecourse could just be me since I like to keep my desktop clear01:12
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Jucato(freenode has a 20-channel regular limit)01:12
Jucatounless you're using an IRC client that opens 1 window per channel...01:12
SolidSourceJucato: yeah, but I like to keep desktop clear...so I use Kopetes tabbed chatting01:13
stdinlike irssi01:13
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JucatoSolidSource: so? it still has tabs :)01:13
stdindon't they change colour when there is activity ?01:13
SlackRatk...its like this......before you take your meds? go to#kubuntu.....after you take your meds, go to #kubuntu - offtopic01:13
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SlackRati change color when theres activity......01:14
SolidSourcestdin only if there a message directed to you01:14
Jucato:D01:14
hiasllhello! since a few days i cannot play any mp3 file with xine or arts. vlc and mplayer are working fine. anybody know this problem?01:14
stdinthen use a mans IRC client, Konversation :P01:14
SlackRathiasll, any recent updates////01:14
SlackRatlol @ a mans irc client.....01:14
hiasllSlackRat: it must be an update, because on my sister computer there's the same problem01:15
Jucatos/mans/man's/01:15
SolidSourcestdin: konversation....but then I have to have a whole another program running when kopete can do it01:15
SlackRatvery often those lil lib updates can have a blowback effect in strange places.....01:15
stdinJucato: is it "man is" ?01:15
Jucatothat's the problem.. Kopete can't really do it :)01:15
hiaslli use edgy my sister dapper.01:16
Jucatostdin: no. man's = possessive form of "man"01:16
SlackRatcheck launchpad to see if someone submitted a bug report.....or google the problem to see if its widespread01:16
Jucatostdin: as in stdin's or Jucato's :)01:16
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SolidSourcethats not my fault....eventually kopete will get there....to bad Trillian doesn't make a full version for linux01:17
stdinJucato: so when I type "Jucato's cat" am I referring to your cat, or saying you are one ? :P01:17
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SolidSourcelol01:17
Jucatostdin: in my case, you're referring to my cat, and I wish I were half one :)01:17
SlackRatyour refering to either his cat, or his concatenation01:17
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SlackRatyou're*01:18
stdinI suppose a grammar discussion is severely offtopic :P01:18
SolidSourcegrammer? whats that?01:19
SlackRatseverly, its also boring01:19
Jucatoyeah, but I'm looking for an excuse to exercise my super cow powers :)01:19
stdinSolidSource: something MS word told me I need to work on :P01:19
SlackRatits a spammer with bad puctuation and grammar01:19
SolidSourcestdin: adn do you believe everything MS tells you?01:19
SlackRatlol01:19
SolidSourceand*01:19
SlackRatapt-get moo