[12:13] <aseigo> TMM: you'll probably like the fm in kde4 in any case... all the power, half the interface
[12:13] <aseigo> TMM: in the meantime, one does end up getting pretty attached to konqi. it's just a bit of a deep-end-of-the-pool experience
[12:13] <aseigo> "OMG .. there. is. so. much."
[12:14] <aseigo> 6 months later: "jesus, how'd i ever live without half this stuff?" ;)
[12:14] <TMM> aseigo: well, it is not like I'm not experienced with linux, or even KDE, I dumped gnome 1.x (helix desktop) for kde 3.0... for the bouncy icon cursur thingy, to be totally honest
[12:14] <aseigo> we're working on improving the first date experience without sacrificing the long term marriage potential
[12:14] <aseigo> lol.. the bouncy icon rocks
[12:14] <makuseru> i like fedora spinny icons
[12:14] <aseigo> i remember when that first entered cvs (back before svn) and i just sat there launching apps
[12:15] <aseigo> makuseru: the busy cursor is really nice in fedora, yeah
[12:15] <makuseru> but everything else is crap
[12:15] <TMM> aseigo: but, right now, coming from gnome 2.4.17 to kde 3.5.3 (I think) it all feels so cluttered, and (dare I say) windows xp like
[12:15] <aseigo> so .. usable in real world environments? *grin*
[12:15] <SSJ_GZ> I like Oxygen's Busy cursor so much, I almost wish KDE were slower =)
[12:15] <aseigo> seriously though ...
[12:16] <makuseru> kde is not windoes like
[12:16] <dec_> anyone know how to install a .rpm package in ubuntu?
[12:16] <makuseru> get alien
[12:16] <aseigo> yeah, we're working on the feeling of clutter. part of it is that crystal (icon theme) became very inconsistent over time
[12:16] <makuseru> itll convert it
[12:16] <aseigo> some of it is the over use of frames
[12:16] <aseigo> etc... lots of little things ... very little to do with the actual functionality, to be honest
[12:17] <aseigo> TMM: in any case, welcome to kde =)
[12:17] <TMM> well, I'm not totally hating it or anything
[12:17] <SSJ_GZ> aseigo: Is Konqueror still going to house all of the File Manager settings, or will that be moved to Dolphin?
[12:17] <TMM> it is just that, well... I'm feeling a bit 'uncertain'
[12:17] <SSJ_GZ> I find that many accusations of clutter are aimed at Konqueror's settings menu.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> it ain't XP , believe me  TMM :)
[12:17] <SSJ_GZ> That, and KControl.
[12:17] <TMM> aseigo: also, to me, personally, windows XP is completely unuseable :) (also more cluttered than KDE) ;)
[12:17] <aseigo> SSJ_GZ: they'll share most settings. each will have a sub/super-set of them
[12:18] <TMM> BluesKaj: I know it isn't windows XP
[12:18] <SSJ_GZ> Yeah, I've always found the resemblance to Windows to be pretty superficial.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> TMM, it's entirely up to the user how the desktop is set up
[12:18] <SSJ_GZ> aseigo: Ok, thanks :)
[12:18] <mike__> ..
[12:18] <makuseru> what is a good video editing program in kubuntu
[12:19] <SiLVER> whats the best way to get a mac-like taskbar? icons should get bigger, when you move the mouse on it, etc
[12:19] <BluesKaj> ppl say Kino
[12:19] <TMM> please, I am not trying to shout 'KDE is for windows hates, gnome is for unix lovers' or anything of that bullshit, it was just striking to ME at first glance, how enourmously alike it is. Then I went and looked at screenshots on kde.org, and it is STILL very much the same 'feel'
[12:19] <aseigo> makuseru: i don't know of one, to be honest. there are some video editting suites, but they are all pretty damn complex and over the top. there's one being developed with qt4/kde4 that looks really promissing, but it's still alpha alpha
[12:19] <TMM> I do not want any sort of flamewar, hell, I'm on KDE RIGHT NOW :)
[12:20] <makuseru> BluesKaj: you talkin to me?
[12:20] <SSJ_GZ> TMM: Relax, we're all friends here :)
[12:20] <BluesKaj> makuseru, , yes
[12:20] <TMM> just wanted to make that clear :P
[12:20] <aseigo> TMM: yep, we're well aware of the "first date" syndrome we suffer. all i can say for now is "i hear you, we know about it. the marriage is great, we're working on the early impressions bit now."
[12:20] <cpk1> windows doesnt have virtual desktops =)
[12:20] <SSJ_GZ> TMM: Drag the kicker up to the top of the screen - it might make you feel more at home ;)
[12:20] <makuseru> SiLVER: kxdock, cooldock, ksmoothdock, etc
[12:20] <cpk1> and doesnt have a kajillion apps that all tie into each other
[12:21] <TMM> oww, more gripes
[12:21] <SiLVER> makuseru: i know, there are several programms availabe, but whtas the best to use?
[12:21] <TMM> of you make kicker smaller to a reasonable size, it becomes ugly :)
[12:21] <makuseru> and in linux "add remove really means ADD remove"
[12:21] <TMM> :P
[12:21] <BluesKaj> TMM, well there's method in the KDE madness ...that's to welcome former windows users (like me ) and give them a less intimidated and more familiar environment
[12:21] <cpk1> my kicker is set to tiny and I love how it looks =)
[12:21] <makuseru> SiLVER: i think ksmoothdock is the best
[12:21] <TMM> less intimidating ?
[12:21] <SiLVER> makuseru: ty, ill try it
[12:22] <TMM> let's be advocate of the devil here: I'm a long time linux user, I've got the beard and the long hair to prove it, what has KDE got to offer ME? :)
[12:22] <makuseru> theres more settings in it
[12:22] <cpk1> i suppose it depends what you want from a DE
[12:22] <makuseru> and it looks prettier
[12:23] <TMM> yes, it *IS* pretty
[12:23] <cpk1> it comes with amarok by default
[12:23] <aseigo> TMM: remote access to your files, dcop based automation of your apps, if your a sys admin type ksysguard is kick ass particularly for remote boxes
[12:23] <BluesKaj> linux has it's intimidation factor ... I was exposed to some very discouteous know it alls at the fedora core support charoom previous to switching to kubuntu.
[12:23] <aseigo> TMM: fish:// absolutely rocks, and the little touches like how ctrl-U clears line edits and ctrl-e autocompletes.
[12:23] <JohnFlux> TMM: ask not what KDE can do for you.. :-)
[12:24] <Highor\a> hi i downloaded kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 and burned it on a DVD, when i start windows the kubuntu disctree is coming, but if i restart my computer, then he doesn't boot from the CD, and i did the cd-rom first in the BIOS
[12:24] <aseigo> TMM: so there's this nice coupling of unix-y goodness and gui ease
[12:24] <aseigo> JohnFlux: hehe
[12:24] <cpk1> that automatic public fileserver thing is really cool TMM
[12:24] <TMM> fish:// is like sshfs, right?
[12:24] <aseigo> JohnFlux: ah, btw, ruphy and some other guy have started working on the sysguard->krunner integration
[12:24] <aseigo> JohnFlux: ruphy had some q's this morning for me..
[12:24] <TMM> well, I seem to be missing all the zeroconf goodness that came with gnome
[12:24] <aseigo> TMM: right... and it works in -any- kde app
[12:24] <echosyp_> how do i install kernel modules?
[12:25] <cpk1> isnt qt going to be available on linux when kde4 comes out?
[12:25] <aseigo> TMM: there's zeroconf in kde as well... which parts are you missing
[12:25] <TMM> the part where I can see the zeroconfe'd share on my server... strange
[12:25] <JohnFlux> aseigo: fun fun
[12:25] <aseigo> TMM: oh, and we also have a proper printing system and a rather impressive file dialog
[12:25] <TMM> lol
[12:25] <artis> i downloaded kubuntu iso image, burned it but its not boot it says about i/o error what i did wrong ?
[12:25] <aseigo> JohnFlux: yeah, i like it when other people do the work ;)
[12:25] <TMM> I do not want to hear anything about any printing dialogs or I'm switching to XFCE :P
[12:26] <aseigo> JohnFlux: we can fiddle on the core bits of fun and leave the fiddly bits =)
[12:26] <echosyp_> artis, did you check the md5?
[12:26] <cpk1> what is the name of that kde applet that automagically sets up easy filesharing?
[12:26] <echosyp_> maybe you burned a bad iso
[12:26] <cpk1> i forget its name
[12:26] <TMM> too much bandwidth has been wasted on that discussion :P
[12:26] <artis> i dunno .. how to do it ?
[12:26] <TMM> ;)
[12:26] <Highor\a> why isen't kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 booting from CD? :S
[12:27] <JohnFlux> aseigo: I did have an almost-working process list widget
[12:27] <echosyp_> i don't want to go into it, but dl the md5 checksum and run md5sum -c against the iso
[12:27] <BluesKaj> !kde applet
[12:27] <TMM> aseigo: I used gnome-user-share to make some homedirs available on my server, because I'm lazy and can't be arsed to set up something properly :)
[12:27] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[12:27] <SSJ_GZ> cpk1: kpf?
[12:27] <xxnicexguyxx> spricht hier jemand deutsch??
[12:27] <JohnFlux> aseigo: just a stand alone widget
[12:27] <BluesKaj> !filesharing
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <TMM> zeroconf://
[12:27] <TMM> yes
[12:27] <echosyp_> how do i install kernel modules?
[12:27] <TMM> kio slaves... hum
[12:27] <BluesKaj> !share
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <TMM> echosyp_: exactly what kind of kio slaves are we talking about here?
[12:27] <khaije> i asked once earlier today but i'll try again.... any suggestions for full remote desktop including sound (via ssh ideally) ?
[12:28] <echosyp_> what?
[12:28] <artis> echosyp_: so what i have to do now ?
[12:28] <TMM> echosyp_: kernel modules
[12:28] <echosyp_> kio slaves?
[12:28] <echosyp_> drm
[12:28] <cpk1> SSJ_GZ: hang on I'll fire up my laptop since its on that
[12:28] <xxnicexguyxx> can someone help me???????????????????????????????
[12:28] <TMM> echosyp_: I am trying to multitask, and I'm failing
[12:28] <TMM> echosyp_: but, kernel modules, what kind of kernel modules, what are you trying to accomplish? :)
[12:28] <echosyp_> im trying to compile drm module, and it says "The DRI driver cannot be installed without the latest kernel modules"
[12:29] <aseigo> TMM: ah, we have a filesharing panel applet, though i don't think that does zeroconf announcements, and samba sharing built into the properties dialog for folders (so right click -> share) but again i'm not sure that does zeroconf
[12:29] <cpk1> TMM: also superkaramba is pretty cool
[12:29] <_eMaX_> hi all
[12:29] <_eMaX_> *sigh*
[12:29] <dariosimon> hi emax
[12:29] <artis> echosyp_: btw i  write iso only on 4 cd using iso maker on nero it gets error it says can't close session
[12:29] <TMM> aseigo: being advocate of the devel again here, but why on earth would I want to share something over samba? I've got NO windows machines here :)
[12:29] <_eMaX_> since my upgrade to evolution 2.9.91 evolution core dumps often. can I with apt-get go back to a previous version?
[12:29] <Highor\a> if i restart my computer he doesn't boot from CD and i changed the bootsetup CD-rom first, then HDD and the disctree says: "This is a Live Kubuntu CD that can be run directly from your CD drive. Simply leave this CD in your drive and reboot the computer to run a demo of Kubuntu"
[12:29] <aseigo> oh neat, kubuntu doesn't set up zeroconf at all.
[12:30] <echosyp_> bad cd
[12:30] <TMM> aseigo: trust me, kubuntu is 300x better then mandriva, that stuff is just arcane
[12:30] <aseigo> TMM: because it's actually a fairly decent system for that, believe it or not.
[12:30] <cpk1> SSJ_GZ: yeah it was kpf
[12:30] <khaije> aseigo: you have to add the packages, there are integrations w/ kde for avahi
[12:30] <Highor\a> i downloaded kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 but i burned the files on a DVD
[12:30] <echosyp_> TMM, you know what thats about?
[12:30] <echosyp_> im trying to compile drm module, and it says "The DRI driver cannot be installed without the latest kernel modules"
[12:30] <artis> one of universities gives it to download i dont think it cud b bad ..
[12:30] <aseigo> khaije: ugh. this is the kind of stuff that should be set up out of the box.
[12:30] <TMM> echosyp_: well, sort of, what DRM modules are you trying to build?? what video card are you trying to get to work?
[12:31] <aseigo> not installed == not there for 99% of people
[12:31] <echosyp_> then it gives me some dri.log to refer to for what went wrong
[12:31] <echosyp_> mach64
[12:31] <aseigo> no reason not to have this stuff.. where for art thou suse ;)
[12:31] <SSJ_GZ> cpk1: Cool
[12:31] <TMM> echosyp_: wow... errr, WHY? :) the 3d acceleration won't really be a whole lot faster :P
[12:31] <echosyp_> the dri log gives me some make error about no 'count'
[12:31] <echosyp_> true, but it will take a load off the cpu
[12:31] <echosyp_> even a little load
[12:31] <cpk1> SSJ_GZ: I was in a hurry needing to get my homework from my laptop to my desktop when I found that, got it set up in less than a minute =)
[12:31] <TMM> aseigo: well, I actually REALLY liked that gnome apace, mod_dav , avahi combo
[12:32] <SSJ_GZ> cpk1: Hehe :)
[12:32] <BluesKaj> cpk1, do you mean "kpf"  for file sharing
[12:32] <cpk1> yes
[12:32] <TMM> aseigo: it worked fully transparantly for other gnome desktops, and, judging by that zeroconf:/// thing it would have worked for KDE as well
[12:32] <lu-bao> when i move windows (on my pc with kubuntu fresh installed) its like at windows without graphic drivers when you move windows its so cutted and lagging moving :( what is that for a problem ?
[12:32] <artis> is there  a way  put bootable iso to usb flash
[12:32] <piquadrat> Hi! I'm still trying to get my external encrypted harddisk to automount. I just installed gnome and verified that it indeed supports this (it displays a password dialog when the disk is plugged in). Is there nothing of this sort for KDE/Kubuntu?
[12:33] <TMM> echosyp_: perhaps it is time to invest in a better video card? I mean independantly of your DRI issue, you can buy a radeon 9200 pci card for about $25 new online these days
[12:33] <TMM> echosyp_: that would actually HELP you, and it will still be supported by opensource drivers
[12:33] <echosyp_> TMM, its integrated
[12:33] <echosyp_> in my laptop
[12:33] <TMM> echosyp_: in that case, forget I said that :)
[12:33] <TMM> echosyp_: let's see if we can fix your DRI situation then ;)
[12:33] <echosyp_> yeah, i thought of that
[12:34] <lu-bao> somebody knows this frame lag issue when you move windows around on desktop that it looks cutted and is slow?
[12:34] <TMM> echosyp_: why exactly do you think you need to compile new drm drivers? I thought the mach64 drivers were included with every distro?
[12:34] <echosyp_> it doesn't seem so
[12:35] <echosyp_> i don't have dri working
[12:35] <TMM> lu-bao: that will depend largely on the video driver in use by your hardware
[12:35] <echosyp_> im using the ati driver
[12:35] <TMM> echosyp_: I think that's not right
[12:35] <echosyp_> it is
[12:35] <cpk1> TMM: zeroconf:/ seems like it should work, on mine it just returns that the daemon isnt running so presumably it would work if I started it up
[12:35] <echosyp_> iv tried radeon, not supported
[12:35] <TMM> echosyp_: let me check, I don't think 'ati' supports mach64
[12:35] <echosyp_> k
[12:35] <lu-bao> TMM, mh i have ati radeon x850xt at pci-express with elitegroup kn1 extreme (nforce4 ultra mainboard) and amd64 3200+
[12:36] <TMM> echosyp_: ah, it SHOULD detect mach64
[12:36] <echosyp_> it works, just dri isn't enabled
[12:36] <SSJ_GZ> Night all
[12:36] <echosyp_> i don't know what the deal is, its xubuntu though
[12:36] <TMM> lu-bao: what driver are you using?
[12:36] <TMM> echosyp_: I think this is very weird, mach64 should work, can you put the output of lspci -v on a pastebin please?
[12:37] <lu-bao> TMM, actually no driver but i thought like in other distributions kubuntu would use vesa if no driver is installed :)
[12:37] <echosyp_> im not using that comp
[12:37] <TMM> lu-bao: well, it probably is, and vesa is dog slow :)
[12:37] <echosyp_> so one sec
[12:37] <lu-bao> okay otherwise its nice that it doesnt prechoose stuff :)
[12:37] <lu-bao> TMM, on other distros i hadnt this lagging :P
[12:37] <TMM> lu-bao: well, perhaps other distro's use other defaults for vesa :)
[12:38] <TMM> lu-bao: perhaps it is using fbdev, or something
[12:38] <cpk1> it might be using "nv" if its an nvidia card
[12:38] <lu-bao> with my notebook (and opensource via cle266 drivers what are included while install) it hasnt this problem only on my pc :/
[12:38] <TMM> lu-bao: anyway, if you would be so kind as to paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on a pastebin, I'll take a look :)
[12:38] <khaije> aseigo: it should def be easier to set up, but it is already integrated to an extent. having it set up by default, however would be a bad idea
[12:39] <TMM> kde probably has a context menu to do that in one go :)
[12:39] <lu-bao> TMM, mmmh i have to think about this first *lol* :> no wait until update is finished (online update) its a fresh install need update :)
[12:39] <lu-bao> TMM, no it doesnt have and im happy about i dislike these automatic stuff inside menus :)
[12:39] <TMM> that was actually a pun, but noone noticed :)
[12:40] <lu-bao> *g*
[12:40] <echosyp_> TMM, http://pastebin.ca/369661
[12:40] <echosyp_> thats the output of lspci
[12:40] <lu-bao> mh maybe after online update it runs more fine with new xorg and new kernel :)
[12:41] <hiasll> i cannot play mp3 files since a few days. anyone know about it? the same happens at my sisters pc. maybe a broken update?
[12:42] <hiasll> i play with kaboodle and amarok
[12:43] <naught101> anyone know why firefox doesn't restart in kubuntu?
[12:43] <naught101> it just shuts down and doesn't start again..
[12:43] <lu-bao> TMM, lol its like it would have only 3fps at desktop windows xD
[12:44] <tjz> can anyone help me install flash
[12:44] <tjz> it keeps breaking
[12:44] <tjz> ?
[12:44] <naught101> tjz: did you try automatix?
[12:44] <_eMaX_> all: if in e.g. feisty I have one program that doesn't work reliably (evolution) how would I go back to the previous version of that same program, as of edgy?
[12:44] <tjz> is that a program?
[12:44] <_eMaX_> yes
[12:44] <_eMaX_> but say, any program
[12:45] <echosyp_> brb
[12:45] <dbddbd> hola
[12:45] <dbddbd> hello
[12:46] <tjz> it came bck blank when i searched for it
[12:47] <tjz> back*
[12:47] <cpk1> _eMaX_: aptitude place might do it
[12:48] <lu-bao> TMM, are you still there? :)
[12:48] <TMM> yes
[12:48] <lu-bao> TMM, http://pastebin.com/887658
[12:48] <echosyp_> back
[12:48] <echosyp_> TMM you got anything for me
[12:48] <lu-bao> it runs in vesa at 1280x1024@60hz
[12:48] <TMM> echosyp_: I am trying to figure it out
[12:49] <lu-bao> and everything is slow as hell.... *windows to move and drawing of them*
[12:49] <TMM> vesa isn't fast
[12:49] <echosyp_> cool take your time
[12:49] <TMM> lu-bao: did you try 'radeon' ?
[12:49] <lu-bao> yeah but its slow like in "ms windows" when you move windows and havent drivers installed ^^
[12:49] <lu-bao> thought vesa would be faster than that :)
[12:50] <lu-bao> nope didnt try dont know if i should dont know what happens then
[12:50] <TMM> no, vesa is really slow
[12:50] <lu-bao> mh okay then i should try radeon :)
[12:50] <lu-bao> hope that will work with ati x850xt at pci-express
[12:50] <TMM> I couldn't tell you
[12:50] <TMM> othwerise there might be no other solution than the closed source drivers
[12:50] <TMM> but I personally see them as a 'last resort'
[12:50] <ubuntu> BRASIL ??
[12:51] <lu-bao> TMM, as long it will work well and fine i dont care whats on it :)
[12:51] <TMM> lu-bao: ah, yes, you really should try and substitute 'vesa' for 'radeon', now, there is a chance that after you restart X it won't work
[12:51] <TMM> lu-bao: now, are you capable of editing config files from the command line?
[12:51] <tjz> naught101
[12:51] <tjz> ?
[12:51] <lu-bao> TMM, on suse "radeon" did work is that a good chance then?
[12:52] <TMM> if 'radeon' worked on suse, it'll work here
[12:52] <lu-bao> TMM, no i hate command lines so i use midnight commander editor ;)
[12:52] <TMM> well, what version of suse?
[12:52] <TMM> and, what version of kubuntu?
[12:52] <lu-bao> openSuSE10.2 32 + 64bit :)
[12:52] <lu-bao> newest kubuntu :)
[12:52] <semnome> is safe upgrade my kubuntu 6.06 to edgy  ???
[12:52] <TMM> 6.10?
[12:52] <lu-bao> from last weekend ^^
[12:52] <naught101> sorry tjz, yes. do a google search for automatix
[12:52] <TMM> feisty?
[12:52] <lu-bao> TMM, downloaded last weekend at dvd
[12:52] <naught101> ?automatix
[12:52] <TMM> well, it'll probably be fine then
[12:53] <semnome> with apt-dist upgrade ??
[12:53] <naught101> !automatix
[12:53] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:53] <lu-bao> TMM, other question do i need special modules to run "radeon" as driver?
[12:53] <lu-bao> running now are i2c bitmap ddc dri extmod freetype glx int10 type1 and vbe
[12:54] <semnome> apt-get dist-upgrade  ??
[12:54] <lu-bao> any other required for "radeon" as driver ? :)
[12:54] <TMM> lu-bao: well, the X server should load everything it needs itself
[12:54] <TMM> lu-bao: even then, for 2d acceleration you don't need anything special
[12:54] <lu-bao> mh okay but at "closed source drivers" i needed to add some modules :)
[12:54] <tjz> ok one sed
[12:54] <TMM> lu-bao: yeah, they are evil, stay away from them
[12:54] <tjz> sec*
[12:54] <SolidSource> semnome: what was your question?
[12:54] <lu-bao> just asked cause for closed source i needed modifications (other modules too)
[12:55] <lu-bao> TMM, lol :> better than nothing if you want 3D ;)
[12:55] <semnome> SolidSource: i want to upgrade my kubuntu
[12:55] <TMM> no, better to get a proper videocard :)
[12:55] <SolidSource> semnome: to?
[12:55] <_eMaX_> cpk1: how do you mean aptitude place
[12:55] <semnome> 6.10
[12:55] <semnome> i am using 6.06
[12:55] <lu-bao> TMM, no i dont spend any more euro in computer cards or other stuff >.< *hates spending more and more money*
[12:55] <SolidSource> !dist-upgrade
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <tjz> naught101: ok what do i need to download?
[12:56] <SolidSource> !distupgrade
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <TMM> lu-bao: well, you could have spend *less* and a get a 3d card that was supported with open-source drivers ;)
[12:56] <lu-bao> TMM, my comp has amd64 3200+ with ati x850xt and 2gb dualchannel ddr1 with 570gb harddisc
[12:56] <tjz> ?
[12:57] <semnome> i need change de source in file /etc/apt/source.list ?
[12:57] <lu-bao> TMM, yeah i could when i had use "linux" longer and wasnt on windows when i bought my card and best would be when i didnt saw that ati had much more pixel pipelines and other things for same money than nvidia had X.x
[12:57] <naught101> tjz: read the automatix webpage - web search it
[12:57] <SolidSource> semnome: yes, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052 follow method 2
[12:57] <tjz> ok
[12:57] <TMM> well, I buy my gear on 'is it supported by open source drivers' THEN I look at speed :)
[12:57] <semnome> thanks
[12:58] <SolidSource> semnome: changing gedit to kate of course
[12:58] <TMM> I buy the fastest stuff that's available with GPL'd drivers basically :) not the fastest stuff :)
[12:58] <lu-bao> TMM, i didnt care for "opensource operating systems" when i used windows before :P
[12:58] <tjz> http://www.aamatrix.com/   is this it?
[12:58] <SolidSource> tjz: automatix = www.getautomatix.com
[12:59] <TMM> lu-bao: no, but now you are using an open-source operating system, and, before you know it, you WILL care :)
[12:59] <luca> good day - does this channel provide some support for kopete? :-)
[12:59] <TMM> lu-bao: go read the gnu manifesto :)
[12:59] <lu-bao> TMM, i just took opensource and then i saw "damn it doesnt run well" and then i cared before i didnt so dont judge me XD
[01:00] <TMM> lu-bao: I'm not judging!!! I'm trying to educate
[01:00] <semnome> SolidSource: i will have no problems with all programs and drivers that i have installed in this machine ??
[01:00] <lu-bao> TMM, when you was small i bet you used windows too so you know how i was thinking when i was small :)
[01:00] <lu-bao> TMM, okay then i missunderstood your sentences happens sometimes im sorry for that :)
[01:00] <tjz> naught101: i gotConnection to host www.getautomatix.com is broken.
[01:00] <luca> has anyone problems using kopete to talk with jabber contacts?
[01:01] <SolidSource> semnome: you may have problems if any 3rd party software is installed, or may not...its about 50-50 chance
[01:01] <semnome> SolidSource: thanks
[01:01] <SolidSource> tjz: yes its down
[01:01] <lu-bao> TMM, nice this windows lagging isnt anymore :>
[01:01] <tjz> naught101: ok
[01:01] <lu-bao> TMM, thank you very much :) *hugs*
[01:02] <tjz> then wat do i do now?
[01:02] <TMM> lu-bao: I used windows 95, I bought it, I was happy for all of 1 week when the fat16 partition it lived on horribly ate itself, then Is withced to linux :)
[01:02] <SolidSource> tjz: what are you trying to do exactly?
[01:03] <TMM> lu-bao: ext2 also ate data back then from time to time, but at least it was fun :)
[01:03] <tjz> install flash to watch videos online
[01:03] <lu-bao> TMM, lol when windows 95 was out linux was there too? i thought linux came later when "linus torwald" was angry about windows and wrote its own kernel :>
[01:03] <tjz> i tried to do it through adept nut it keeps breaking
[01:04] <tjz> but*
[01:04] <TMM> lu-bao: no, linus torvalds wasn't angry about anything, he just wanted unix on his 386, and learn all about this affordable 32bit processor
[01:04] <lu-bao> when i was young i really didnt care for freedom or other stuff at pcs a computer only was a tool for me i booted it and used programs nothing more :)
[01:04] <TMM> lu-bao: the open-source movement is way older than microsoft is
[01:04] <SolidSource> tjz: ok, you running 32bit or 64bit?
[01:04] <tjz> 64
[01:04] <tjz> i believe...
[01:05] <lu-bao> TMM, um open-source before microsoft? o.o" but please tell me whats before microsoft? before microsoft i cant remember that there were any good computers out ^^"
[01:05] <SolidSource> tjz: in konsole type "uname -r"
[01:05] <tjz> this is a friends computer
[01:05] <lu-bao> i can be wrong but i dont know :)
[01:05] <BluesKaj> does anyone know of a local area network browser (not komba or smb4k) that is relatively stable ?
[01:06] <tjz> 2.6.15-26-386---i got this
[01:06] <TMM> lu-bao: before, when men where men and wrote their OWN device drivers, all software was open source
[01:06] <SolidSource> tjz: 32bit
[01:06] <tjz> ok
[01:06] <TMM> lu-bao: then, the proprietary unixes came, and they were closed source, THAT is when open-source began
[01:06] <TMM> lu-bao: microsoft and the home-computers took another 5 years to even begin to exist
[01:06] <tjz> ok so now what?
[01:06] <BluesKaj> smb4k and komba2 are really buggy on my system ...they work ok for a while and then they begin to freeze and become unresponsive
[01:07] <lu-bao> TMM, o.o own device drivers ? ah i see um but why do you say when men were men ? :) today its still the same but most dont have nerves to spend lifetime for computers that much :>
[01:07] <SolidSource> tjz: ok, what have you tried to do so far?
[01:07] <jesus> hola alguien me alluda?
[01:07] <TMM> lol, you missed the point :)
[01:07] <TMM> the device driver thing was a joke, there rest wasn't :)
[01:07] <lu-bao> TMM, yeah i know what you mean i just wanted to point at this saying from you :p
[01:07] <lu-bao> ah i see XD
[01:07] <tjz> right click it on adept and request install but it keeps breaking
[01:07] <lu-bao> omfg lol and i thought i would be true that they made them  XD
[01:08] <lu-bao> omfg dont joke me *lol*
[01:08] <echosyp_> brb
[01:08] <SolidSource> tjz: in konsole type "dpkg --configure -a"
[01:08] <SolidSource> tjz: in konsole type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:08] <TMM> lu-bao: well, men made device drivers :)
[01:08] <lu-bao> TMM, sorry i meaned "i thought you would be true with that they made theyr own drivers" :>
[01:08] <tjz> solidsource: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[01:09] <SolidSource> tjz: you have to close out of adept first
[01:09] <lu-bao> TMM, girls too :P one girl made one of the first computers :)
[01:09] <TMM> yes
[01:09] <lu-bao> okay not same as todays computers but it still was one :>
[01:09] <tjz> solidsource: ok and now what?
[01:10] <TMM> but, do not think, for a minute, that the open-source movement is an anti-microsoft thing. Destroying microsoft is only a pleasurable side-effect :)
[01:10] <SolidSource> tjz: ok, what did "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?
[01:10] <TMM> it's about freedom, and it is about being able to do whatever the fuck you want with your 2000 dollar piece of equipment
[01:10] <tjz> solidsource: just drop me down another line
[01:11] <tjz> solidsource:it did nothing
[01:11] <SolidSource> tjz: it did, just had nothing to tell you
[01:12] <lu-bao> TMM, no its not you can say what you want but they didnt made only bad things :P
[01:12] <TMM> echosyp_: sorry, I can't really find anything about your r128 problem :(
[01:12] <tjz> solidsource: yea
[01:12] <tjz> solidsource:it says tjz@tjz-desktop:~$
[01:12] <lu-bao> TMM, okay i have a big problem ._.
[01:13] <roc364> hello all! i got a question about the kernel source
[01:13] <TMM> lu-bao: perhaps not, but their filosophy is bad, they got to the point they are now, mostly by making sure they are an end-point of information. it WAS really easy to import stuff into microsoft software, but impossible to export from it, and the customer, the person who payed, is screwed
[01:13] <SolidSource> tjz: ok, what package were you trying to install in adept?
[01:13] <lu-bao> TMM,  with kaffeine i can see tv but i cant hear sound while watching :(
[01:14] <lu-bao> TMM, mh yes but you can choose what to use so youre not forced to use theyr stuff :)
[01:14] <lu-bao> at kde start i can hear this jingle but i cant hear sound while watching tv in kaffeine :/
[01:15] <TMM> lu-bao: if you chose to use their software then, you are now forced to use it, becuase their software is the only way to access your data
[01:15] <TMM> lu-bao: or your programs, or your games
[01:15] <tjz> solidsource: flash plugin non-free] 
[01:16] <lu-bao> TMM, mhh but there are alot free prorgams out so i can choose them and my games i can run at linux too :) (fangroup installers)
[01:16] <SolidSource> tjz: ok, lets do "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" so if anything goes wrong it will give some info
[01:16] <TMM> lu-bao: you can NOW because of countless hours of work put in by volounteers to make this possible, the micosoft documentation isn't near good enought to make any of that possible
[01:17] <tjz> solidsource: Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 
[01:17] <TMM> and then, if something doesn't work PERFECTLY they turn around and blame that 'crappy linux' that isn't compatible with anything
[01:17] <SolidSource> tjz: yes
[01:17] <roc364> anyone help me wich package to install kernel sources?
[01:17] <lu-bao> TMM, i know that theyre like stupid little childs who think to play god dont try to show me this i know it allready :)
[01:18] <tjz> solidsource:
[01:18] <tjz> o packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[01:18] <tjz> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:18] <tjz> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[01:18] <tjz> y/n/?
[01:18] <Jucato> !pastebin | tjz
[01:18] <ubotu> tjz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:18] <SolidSource> tjz: umm right
[01:19] <tjz> ..what?
[01:19] <lu-bao> i really hope one day every factory of hardware will get forced to give out opensource drivers but i think this never will happen since world is evil and good things have mostly no chance :( money wins *sad*
[01:19] <TMM> lu-bao: well, that is why I think that everything they ever did *is* bad, perhaps not always technological (but if it isn't bad, it is RECENT, becuase in the past all their software WAS crap) but idealogical it has always been despicable. I wouldn't drive car that was assembled by slaves who work 20 hours a day, I won't give money to closed-source software vendors
[01:19] <TMM> yes, I am a zealot
[01:19] <TMM> no, I don't care :)
[01:19] <TMM> yes, I am right :P
[01:20] <lu-bao> TMM, xD
[01:20] <tjz> solidsource: brb                  if u dont want 2 wait u cam e mail instrucyions to gothdude999666@hotmail.com
[01:20] <lu-bao> TMM, now give me a solution :)
[01:20] <SolidSource> tjz: ok, "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" instead
[01:20] <echosyp_> TMM, get anything figured out?
[01:21] <TMM> lu-bao: you probably need a loopback cable from your tv-tuner card to the line-in of your soundcard
[01:21] <lu-bao> i can see video through kaffeine (dvb-t with hauppauge nova-t pci conexxant chipset) fine but i cant hear sound but at start i can hear sound
[01:21] <SolidSource> tjz: no we are just trying to find out why it isn't installing
[01:22] <lu-bao> TMM, um nope i dont think so O.o lol xD this method is really stoneage like :> todays dvb-t cards dont have a loopback cable :) no need anymore :)
[01:22] <TMM> echosyp_: I'm searching, but I can't really find anything, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[01:22] <VonKrolok> Hi guys
[01:22] <lu-bao> TMM, me?
[01:22] <TMM> lu-bao: well, I've got a medieval tv-tuner
[01:22] <VonKrolok> forgot to thank hyper who helped me today
[01:22] <VonKrolok> I needed some moer info
[01:23] <TMM> lu-bao: in that case it is probably just some dial on alsa that is not turned on
[01:23] <VonKrolok> I was suggested to download the non-LiveCD version of Kubuntu instead of the Live one
[01:23] <TMM> lu-bao: try and start alsamixer on the command line while playing tv
[01:23] <lu-bao> TMM, my tv card directly sends audio to soundcard (what is onboard ac97 through nvidia ck804 nforce4 ultra chipset onboard sound)
[01:23] <TMM> then just toggle all the buttons :)
[01:23] <VonKrolok> but going on Kubuntu.org
[01:23] <VonKrolok> I can only find 1 version of it and I know being LiveCD
[01:23] <TMM> I believe there even is alsamixergui
[01:23] <VonKrolok> how does that work?
[01:24] <lu-bao> TMM, woah they changed alot o.o alsamixer (shell version) looks cool now
[01:24] <TMM> progress!!
[01:25] <Skuller> Hey guys i am badly screwed....i just tried gettin beryl to work for the first time.....followed all the procedures on http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL and also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy.....after everything when it asked me to restart the X i pressed ctrl + alt + bckspc and there was a blank screen with a blinkin cursor on it and when i rebooted into kubunt
[01:25] <Skuller> screen and a console comes asking me for my UN and PW and it stays in the terminal kind of environment.....what can i do now?
[01:25] <TMM> aseigo: I've decided to keep KDE for at least a week, kontact seems to finally want to talk to groupwise, and stop segfaulting, so, I might actually be able to work :)
[01:26] <SolidSource> Skuller: X got screwed up "sudo --configure xserver-xorg"
[01:27] <VonKrolok> Is there anyone knowing where can I get a non-LiveCD version of Ubuntu/kubuntu?
[01:27] <eri_82> hi everyone
[01:27] <TMM> aseigo: one thing I really do NOT like though, the fact that 90% of KDE apps seem to think that they are way to important to quit, and prefer to hang around on the taskbar, requiring me to click 4 times to actually quit an app
[01:27] <SolidSource> tjz: if you want: follow these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Add-On_Applications
[01:28] <lu-bao> TMM, could following work? (use newest wine version to install tv-card drivers through setup and to setup software to play it too then run and use it)  ??
[01:28] <Jucato> TMM: Ctrl+Q
[01:28] <TMM> especially that 'are you sure you want to quit me, really sure?' dialog you get after you went out of your WAY to right-click the icon :)
[01:28] <TMM> Jucato: that actually quits?
[01:28] <TMM> lu-bao: NO
[01:28] <Jucato> TMM: yes. so does File -> Quit (2 clicks)
[01:28] <TMM> lu-bao: also, you won't need it
[01:28] <eri_82> can anyone help me on installin kubuntu?????? i;m hsving problems.
[01:28] <TMM> Jucato: so, it is just the cross in the top-right corner that is broken?
[01:28] <eri_82> can anyone help me on installin kubuntu?????? i;m hsving problems.
[01:28] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok i'll try that once i reboot.....is there anything else that could be rong or am i screwed bigtime?
[01:29] <eri_82> can anyone help me on installin kubuntu?????? i'm having problems.
[01:29] <Skuller> !repeat | eri_82
[01:29] <Jucato> TMM: no. it's not "broken". that happens only for apps that have system tray icons
[01:29] <ubotu> eri_82: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:29] <eri_82> ubotu ;)
[01:29] <TMM> Jucato: which is almost every app except for kcalculator :)
[01:30] <Jucato> TMM: think of it this way, you're not closing the app, you're just closing the window with the X
[01:30] <aseigo> TMM: taskbar or system tray? if system tray then how about actually quiting rather than closing the window
[01:30] <SolidSource> Skuller: don't know, but when that happened to me I had to use the"nv" driver instead of the "nvidia" driver to get back up and running
[01:30] <TMM> Jucato: which isn't true for other apps
[01:30] <aseigo> TMM: and you can turn off the system tray in pretty much every app that provides one
[01:30] <TMM> aseigo: err, the icons in the bottom right
[01:30] <aseigo> TMM: yeah, system tray
[01:30] <lu-bao> TMM, did that still no sound :(
[01:30] <TMM> aseigo: I really don't want to tell every app that when I tell it to go away, I really WANT it to go away
[01:31] <lu-bao> i have videostream but no audiostream :/
[01:31] <eri_82> the installation freezes
[01:31] <aseigo> TMM: the "are you sure" is because stupid people kept clicking on those icons and hitting "quit" accidently, closing apps ... resulting in weekly bug reports
[01:31] <Jucato> TMM: in other apps that don't have system tray icons, you closing the window closes the app, because there's no system tray process for it.
[01:31] <aseigo> TMM: so select Quit rather than Close
[01:31] <Jucato> TMM: you can turn off that "are you sure" dialog box
[01:31] <Skuller> SolidSource: if u mean puttin 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' in my xorg file then it was already nvidia las time i went in it to add some stuff for aiglx
[01:31] <Jucato> TMM: next time it appears, check the "Don't tell me this again"
[01:31] <TMM> Jucato: so I actually have to look in the bottom right after each Icon I click to make sure if the app has a bloody icon there to decypher the meaning of the cross in the top right corner of the screen?
[01:32] <TMM> Jucato: once for EACH app
[01:32] <SolidSource> Skuller: no, when I installed beryl I had to revert back to "nv"
[01:32] <TMM> aseigo: that 'are you sure' thing is just an abomination :)
[01:32] <aseigo> TMM: if you don't like the system tray icons (and the apps that have them usually have them for a reason; document centric apps tend not to for instance) turn them off
[01:32] <aseigo> TMM: yeah, tell that to the people who kept quitting their apps.
[01:32] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh....but wudnt that cause ne probs with my nvidia driver?
[01:32] <TMM> where do I turn them all off? :)
[01:33] <aseigo> TMM: Settings -> Configure <app>
[01:33] <SolidSource> Skuller: no
[01:33] <Jucato> TMM: the app's settngs
[01:33] <TMM> aseigo: for each app :)
[01:33] <aseigo> TMM: which apps, btw?
[01:33] <TMM> konversation, amarok,
[01:33] <Jucato> yes for each app *that has a system tray icon*. and *not all KDE apps* have system tray icons
[01:33] <TMM> and there were one or two more that really annoyed me
[01:34] <Jucato> it just so happens that the ones you use have them on by default (in Kubuntu)
[01:34] <TMM> why does konversation need a system tray? why does amarok need one?
[01:34] <TMM> I suppose
[01:34] <SolidSource> Skuller: but I never got beryl to work since "nv" doesn't have openGL capabilities and it kept crashing xserver when using "nvidia" driver
[01:34] <Jucato> not everyone likes to have windows opened all the time
[01:34] <TMM> perhaps I'm trying to hard to find things I don't like, but it really annoyed me that it bothered me twice about closing itself
[01:34] <aseigo> TMM: because most people like to play their music without having to keep a window around. konversation w/irc is a slightly more dubious thing
[01:35] <TMM> aseigo: what's wrong with the application tray thingy
[01:35] <TMM> you can minimize apps can't you?
[01:35] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh damn....u mean to say i wont b able to use beryl at any cost?
[01:35] <VonKrolok> #kubuntu-it
[01:35] <aseigo> TMM: it's for people like you that we make things configurable.
[01:36] <SolidSource> Skuller: you can probably find a way to get to work, but that was my experience
[01:36] <aseigo> TMM: the other N million users tend not to agree of every little thing like this
[01:36] <Jucato> TMM: there are certain actions that you can't perform on the app while minimized unless you right-click on the systray icon. the system tray icon is also used for notification, in the case of Konversation for example
[01:36] <aseigo> TMM: so if i say, "yes, you're right" i get to hear it from the % that see it another way. so convincing me is not going to hapen. =)
[01:36] <Skuller> SolidSource: *sniff sniff*..:'(.....ok man....thanx fer da help on the X...i'll leave beryl matter alone
[01:36] <eri_82> can't install kubuntu. installation stops at step 5/6  pls help
[01:37] <Gtwy> http://gtwy.net/vhosts.txt what's wrong with this
[01:37] <TMM> aseigo: ow yes, you are a KDE hotshot aren't you? :)
[01:37] <eri_82> can't install kubuntu. installation stops(freeze) at step 5/6  pls help
[01:37] <SolidSource> Skuller: personally I think I would just wait till April for Feisty, cause it seems that beryl is supposed to work in it better...starting to think beryl doesn't work because of a bug in the kernel
[01:37] <Gtwy> eri_82: what is step 5 of 6
[01:37] <eri_82> partition check Gtwy
[01:38] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh....yea then i will to...thank you very much
[01:38] <Gtwy> eri_82: are you dual booting?
[01:38] <eri_82> iyes
[01:38] <Gtwy> windows is already installed?
[01:38] <eri_82> yes
[01:38] <eri_82> but i had ubuntu and it worked fine ubuntu
[01:38] <Gtwy> you should have a block for windows. then a block for swap space. then the rest of the drive should be /
[01:39] <SolidSource> Skuller: yeah, read an article about how 2.6.2 kernel has a major fix with video drivers...and thats the kernel in feisty
[01:39] <Gtwy> swap's filesystem is "swap" and / should be "ext3"
[01:39] <eri_82> yes
[01:39] <Gtwy> are you trying to mount your ntfs drive?
[01:40] <eri_82> no
[01:40] <TMM> but, will I have to configure every app to stop it annoying me and ask for cookies?
[01:40] <Skuller> solidsource: k..das cool...thanx man
[01:40] <eri_82> Gtwy the partitions are
[01:40] <eri_82> c: ntfs d: fat32 1 ext3 and 1 swap
[01:41] <eri_82> when d was ntfs qparted crashes
[01:42] <eri_82> Gtwy are you there ?
[01:43] <lu-bao> kubuntu only uses 92mb ? o.o"""""
[01:43] <Gtwy> why do you have d: fat32
[01:44] <_eMaX_> re
[01:44] <dawn> ok how does one netowrk linux machines like they do with workgroups in windoze?
[01:44] <_eMaX_> anyone running edgy here?
[01:44] <dawn> i am
[01:44] <eri_82> Gtwy when it was ntfs qparted crashed
[01:44] <_eMaX_> dawn: can you find out which version of evolution would be installed on edgy?
[01:44] <Gtwy> qparted?
[01:44] <dawn> ummm
[01:45] <_eMaX_> dawn: like, adept_manager or so
[01:45] <BluesKaj> use GParted live cd , more stable , easier to use
[01:45] <dawn> eMAX: look under adept manager
[01:45] <dawn> I dont know the current version
[01:45] <_eMaX_> dawn: on feisty, it is 2.9.91, and it seems to be particularly buggy in that whenever I select a mail, it crashes
[01:45] <dawn> I prefer to use Thunderbird
[01:45] <_eMaX_> so I want to find out how I can downgrade
[01:45] <dawn> hmmm
[01:45] <_eMaX_> dawn: yes sure - yet it has no exchange connector
[01:46] <dawn> I have been trying to get thunderbird working w/ Exchange
[01:46] <_eMaX_> and???
[01:46] <dawn> to no avail of course
[01:46] <_eMaX_> sigh*
[01:46] <dawn> 1-3 hrs a week
[01:46] <dawn> I do have thunder working with hotmail and exchange
[01:46] <dawn> :)
[01:46] <dawn> ooops
[01:46] <eri_83> Gtwy i'm back
[01:47] <dawn> I meant gmail, NOT exchange
[01:47] <dawn> lol
[01:47] <eri_83> eri_82 is a ghost :)
[01:47] <dawn> BOO] 
[01:47] <dawn> eMAx there are ppl that have said that they got Thunderbird working w/ Exchange
[01:47] <Gtwy> qparted?
[01:48] <Gtwy> eri_83: qparterd?
[01:48] <Gtwy> i cant type
[01:48] <dawn> I just not been able to figure it out
[01:48] <eri_83> yes
[01:48] <eri_83> Gtwy what's the problem with d: fat32
[01:48] <dawn> eMAX goto the evolution website
[01:48] <dawn> and look fopr a previous version
[01:49] <Adydas> thunder works with ms exchanve?
[01:49] <Gtwy> fat is garbage
[01:49] <eri_83> yea i know
[01:50] <dawn> Adydas: so I have read
[01:50] <Gtwy> in windows
[01:50] <eri_83> :(
[01:50] <Gtwy> convert c: /ntfs
[01:50] <Gtwy> i think that does it
[01:50] <Gtwy> er
[01:50] <Gtwy> d: in your case
[01:50] <Gtwy> i dont know why your system isnt working
[01:50] <eri_83> but c: is ntfs
[01:50] <eri_83> only d is fat32
[01:50] <Gtwy> see above.
[01:50] <dawn> isn't fat32 recognized by NTFS?
[01:51] <dawn> but it has a 4Gb limitation
[01:51] <eri_83> ok thanks anyway
[01:53] <_eMaX_> dawn I am trying to do that and compile a previous version
[01:53] <dawn> emAX: ok
[01:54] <_eMaX_> dawn: breaks at libedataserver/e-categories.h: No such file or directory
[01:54] <dawn> i dont know what that means..
[01:57] <Bubblemanx> Any one know how i can get the screen resoluion bigger on Kubuntu the only one in Display in system settings is 640x480
[01:58] <Adydas> installed vidcard driers?
[01:58] <Adydas> driers?
[01:58] <Adydas> drivers fsf
[01:58] <TMM> echosyp_: did you paste that logfile?
[01:58] <BluesKaj> Bubblemanx, is Kubuntu installed already or are you using the live cd ?
[01:59] <Bubblemanx> its installed.
[02:00] <TMM> also, why in the hell does amarok integrate with konqueror? :)
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ok , open system settings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode
[02:01] <BluesKaj> Bubblemanx, then go back and reset the slider to the resolution you want and then click appy
[02:01] <Bubblemanx> Hmmm dont see monitor&display
[02:02] <Bubblemanx> i just see display
[02:02] <BluesKaj> it's apic of a crt monitor
[02:02] <n4cht> BluesKaj, that's the one.
[02:02] <n4cht> what version of kde are you running?
[02:02] <Bubblemanx> 6.06
[02:02] <n4cht> uh..
[02:03] <n4cht> kde.  not ubuntu.  lol.
[02:03] <BluesKaj> thats kubuntu dapper
[02:03] <Bubblemanx> O.o
[02:03] <n4cht> right.  but KDE is the desktop environment.   right click on the panel and goto help->about kde
[02:05] <BluesKaj> anyway the moves are the same ... click on hardware , then admin mode ...once you have admin permission you can set the resolution slider and apply
[02:05] <Bubblemanx> how do u get into admin mode
[02:05] <BluesKaj> ahh it's prolly hidden under the panel
[02:06] <BluesKaj> right click on the panel and make as small as possible so you can see the buttons
[02:06] <BluesKaj> i had the same problem
[02:06] <Bubblemanx> oh i see admin mode
[02:07] <b0rt> hello world !
[02:07] <b0rt> =P
[02:07] <BluesKaj> this is a real oversight setting the defaulr settings so that access to changing res is difficult
[02:07] <b0rt> i need some
[02:07] <b0nn> Hi, Im having trouble mounting an iPod shuffle, that was previously mounting fine.
[02:07] <Bubblemanx> the slider still only has one opion which is 640x480
[02:07] <b0rt> i need some help with emerald
[02:08] <BluesKaj> did admin mode ask for your pw?
[02:08] <b0rt> windows bordes just dont appear so i cant move or manage windows with mouse
[02:08] <Bubblemanx> yeah it asked for pass
[02:09] <Jucato> !beryl | b0rt
[02:09] <ubotu> b0rt: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:09] <BluesKaj> size orienting and position isn't available ?
[02:09] <Hrontore> okay so i dl the tremulous installer, but nothing popped up after, how do i install the app?
[02:10] <soulrider> hi :)
[02:10] <Bubblemanx> it is it just wont let me change it
[02:10] <b0rt> ubotu: beryl is working really nice on aiglx, but emerald seems to have some problems to load windows decorations
[02:10] <Jucato> !ubotu | b0rt
[02:10] <ubotu> b0rt: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:10] <Skuller> hey guys...i tried installing beryl and screwed up big time...the X doesnt start n everytime i boot into kubuntu i end up in a terminal environment...what can i do now?
[02:10] <soulrider> b0rt: ubotu is a bot
[02:10] <soulrider> dont wotlk to him
[02:11] <b0rt> i just noticed =.=
[02:11] <soulrider> Skuller: try "sudo aptitude purge beryl"
[02:11] <soulrider> Skuller: and then reconfigure X
[02:11] <BluesKaj> ok bubblemax , what graphics card ?
[02:11] <Skuller> i am a newbie who was in greed of beryl....so if you could explain the configuring part of xorg again
[02:11] <BluesKaj> err Bubblemanx
[02:11] <Skuller> soulrider: i am a newbie who was in greed of beryl....so if you could explain the configuring part of xorg again
[02:11] <soulrider> !xorg
[02:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:12] <soulrider> Skuller: no worries, i can help you all you need
[02:12] <Skuller> soulrider: cool....coz i am reali depressed rite now coz of the stuck up in kubun
[02:12] <b0rt> soulrider, what about a full working beryl, but no window borders or decorations?
[02:12] <soulrider> Skuller: happened to all of us at first
[02:13] <soulrider> b0rt: make sure that the decoration plugis in loaded, if it is right click int he beryl icon and then restart window decorator
[02:14] <b0rt> soulrider: already tried
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Bubblemanx, you may have to reset the drivers for you graphics card , it 'll be listed in hardware and you can setup the right drivers for it in admin mode first , then you should be able to reset your resolution
[02:14] <soulrider> b0rt: what did you tru? restarting the window decorator ?
[02:14] <TMM> aseigo: ok, konq plugin installer rocks
[02:15] <TMM> aseigo: it actually works :)
[02:15] <Bubblemanx> ok il try that
[02:15] <b0rt> soulrider: yep ^^U
[02:16] <b0rt> where do i check about plugins?
[02:16] <soulrider> b0rt: go tot he settings
[02:16] <Skuller> soulrider: hmm...for just for a background info....i used the instructions at http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL and also at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy.....in the first webpage i even did the part where i ave to setup two diff logon sumthing sumthin...the standard X and a diff X for runnin beryl on it......i followed all the instructions to the best i cud and 
[02:16] <Skuller> ended up with a crash and at a reboot now i get into the terminal environment
[02:16] <b0rt> soulrider, emerald manager?
[02:16] <soulrider> b0rt: then visual effects, make sure window decoration is checked
[02:18] <b0rt> soulrider: i put it on, decorations appear for a nanosec and then back to no-border windows
[02:18] <soulrider> Skuller: i suggest you do "sudo aptitude purge beryl" and then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:19] <soulrider> b0rt: interesting, if i were you i would try switching the themes a few times, if that fails id reinstall beryl
[02:19] <soulrider> i cannot offer you further help though, i suggets you ask in the effects channel
[02:19] <soulrider> !beryl | b0rt
[02:19] <ubotu> b0rt: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:19] <Skuller> soulrider: ok i'll do that now....just another query....should i install beryl on kubun edgy even tho it causes so much problems.....or better yet...will it even work for me?...am using nvidia gpu btw
[02:20] <b0rt> thanks a lot skuller
[02:20] <alan__> HOLA
[02:20] <soulrider> Skuller: i have an nvidia card in edgy and it works well, but mind you, beryl is kinda useless... just eye candy
[02:20] <soulrider> hol alan__
[02:20] <soulrider> !es | alan__
[02:20] <ubotu> alan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:20] <alan__> Aqu hablan espaol?
[02:20] <alan__> :)
[02:20] <Skuller> b0rt:?...thnx fer wat?
[02:20] <Skuller> soulrider: yea i lurve eye candy nevaiz.....
[02:21] <unix_infidel> i always forget when people mean hola in espanol and HOLLA in ebonics :)
[02:21] <soulrider> Skuller: i got beryl but i deactivated most stuff
[02:21] <soulrider> i like some effects, but they have to be discreet :)
[02:21] <Skuller> soulrider: n whys that?....ok well if i manage to get bak in kubun then i'll ask for ur help again to get beryl working...is that alrite man?
[02:22] <soulrider> sure, the cannel if to ask for help
[02:22] <Bubblemanx> Hmmm its not letting me get screen ress bigger
[02:22] <alan__> Can you help me to INSTAL NIL?
[02:22] <alan__> I downloaded it from:
[02:22] <alan__> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=994&package_id=987&release_id=332152
[02:22] <Bubblemanx> Do i need to install the display drivers first?
[02:22] <alan__> But i dunno how can i install it :(
[02:22] <soulrider> Bubblemanx: you shoudlnt need to
[02:22] <soulrider> !xorg | Bubblemanx
[02:22] <ubotu> Bubblemanx: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:23] <Bubblemanx> in console?
[02:23] <soulrider> alan__: isnt NIL in the repos ?
[02:23] <alan__> No
[02:23] <alan__> Is not.
[02:23] <alan__> :(
[02:24] <alan__> Well... do you have some one that have it?
[02:24] <Sekaab> good night
[02:24] <soulrider> alan__: i would suggets looking for a deb file, but im gonna try and compile it for you
[02:24] <alan__> ok, thaks :)
[02:26] <alan__> :)
[02:27] <paul_> ???
[02:27] <alan__> im waiting... :)
[02:27] <paul_> What for?
[02:27] <alan__> Help to instal NIL
[02:27] <alan__> :D
[02:28] <tyger_sp_br> hey guys... how can I join another server?
[02:28] <alan__> I love that game.
[02:28] <paul_> What is NIL?
[02:28] <alan__> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=994&package_id=987&release_id=332152
[02:28] <tyger_sp_br> I'm looking for irc.highway.net
[02:28] <alan__> That: http://alts.homelinux.net/shots/643-0.jpg
[02:30] <paul_> Looks quite old...
[02:31] <soulrider> alan__: im compiling
[02:31] <soulrider> hold on
[02:33] <TMM> about:mozilla just refers to about:konqueror on konqueror, that's a bit of a let-down :)
[02:33] <alan__> :O
[02:34] <soulrider> alan__: i cant compile it, i guess we should look for a deb package
[02:35] <paul_> That NIL does not compile. Even configure failed. Do I have to setup the complete gcc-stuff on a fresh kubuntu?
[02:36] <alan__> ??
[02:36] <alan__> i cant find a .deb :(
[02:37] <paul_> I only wanted to try the compiler/installation. It sees that i don't have a g++ installed (seems that a link is missing)
[02:37] <alan__> install it from repo.
[02:38] <b0rt> paul_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:39] <paul_> Is that not installed by default? Downloaded this distro today...
[02:39] <b0rt> nop by default anymore i think
[02:39] <alan__> can i do   ./Makefile ??
[02:39] <alan__> i did ./configure
[02:40] <alan__> and that work
[02:40] <paul_> What should ./makefile do?
[02:40] <alan__> i dont know
[02:40] <alan__> but i did ./configure
[02:40] <alan__> and that created some "Makefile".
[02:40] <paul_> than type make?
[02:41] <alan__> make: *** [nil]  Error 2
[02:41] <pirothezero> make install?
[02:41] <alan__> make: *** [nil]  Error 2
[02:41] <alan__> make: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `install'.  Alto.
[02:41] <alan__> Sorry, spanish
[02:42] <soulrider> alan__: apparently its in the repos =./
[02:42] <soulrider> hold on
[02:42] <paul_> is there a dep for libSDL?
[02:42] <alan__> are you sure?
[02:42] <soulrider> uhm
[02:42] <soulrider> no
[02:42] <alan__> lol
[02:42] <soulrider> paul_: think not, but install it from the repos
[02:43] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:43] <alan__> what repos?
[02:43] <b0rt> alan install autotools
[02:43] <alan__> ok
[02:43] <paul_> when you speek about repository, what exactly do you mean?
[02:43] <alan__> did it! :)
[02:44] <angasule> !es
[02:44] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:44] <b0rt> paul a repository is a hosting of programs, libraries and such, where u can download from
[02:44] <b0rt> alan funciona?
[02:44] <alan__> luego de autotools, qu?
[02:44] <alan__> then autotools, what?
[02:45] <angasule> !upgrade
[02:45] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:45] <soulrider> alan__: send the deb to me please :P
[02:45] <alan__> i dont have it, soul
[02:45] <soulrider> =/ didnt you just compile it ?
[02:45] <alan__> no, i said i installed "autotools".
[02:45] <soulrider> oh
[02:46] <alan__> then, what? :(
[02:47] <pirothezero> does anyone else have issues with firefox closing randomly when you are doing stuff 2.0.0.1?
[02:49] <shulman> pirothezero: I haven't seen it happen on mine
[02:49] <BluesKaj> once in a while , not often pirothezero
[02:49] <tarelerulz> How do you tell if you have samba sever installed on your systsm?
[02:50] <shulman> tarelerulz: the simplest way is to open up adept and type in samba and see if it comes back as installed
[02:50] <BluesKaj> i dumped the vlc plugin in FF , it was overriding the totem and mplayer plugins on sites that used windows media
[02:50] <shulman> (although that doesn't mean it's configured correctly)
[02:50] <paul_> This NIL-code is buggy? T
[02:51] <b0rt> well, a really weird problem here, using a usb keyboard, all fine, but when halting system, it doesnt recognize enter to finish the poweroff
[02:51] <b0rt> and i have to press power before it loads out
[02:51] <b0rt> any idea how to make it work?
[02:51] <shulman> has anyone noticed digg.com specifically is very slow on all versions of firefox on kubuntu dapper and edgy?
[02:51] <alan__> hey
[02:51] <alan__> i need "libSDL"
[02:51] <alan__> but i found too much in repos.
[02:52] <alan__> what is what i need?
[02:52] <paul_> all!
[02:52] <b0rt> LoL
[02:52] <paul_> really!
[02:52] <b0rt> look at your dev tool what ask for
[02:52] <alan__> :O
[02:52] <paul_> but that does not compile...
[02:53] <paul_> I fixed that, but now it does not link
[02:53] <b0rt> paul que carajo te pasa
[02:53] <paul_> nice code :)
[02:53] <paul_> b0rt versteht das hoffentlich auch?
[02:54] <b0rt> paul_:  fateko mesota perone jonta?
[02:54] <jp_> Hey gang.  New to Kubuntu.  I installed it over my gnome.  But my "Keyboard Layout" in Regional & Language doesn't have any keyboard models listed.  Any ideas?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> ok, Edgy comes with IPv6 as the default for browsers like FF . Here's a fix to speed things up :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:54] <b0rt> anyone: how to fix the usb keyboard problem on halt?
[02:55] <jp_> In Gnome I could just tell it I had a 102 key kb or whatever, but nothing listed in KDE
[02:55] <BluesKaj> jp_, in system settings try the keyboard and mouse section
[02:56] <AxlRose> for some reason X is using 20% CPU and I can't figure out why
[02:57] <AxlRose> I don't think I've changed anytihng recently
[02:57] <b0rt> jp_ could it be that cdrom is damaged?
[02:57] <jp_> BluesKaj: Nothing there.  I know I'm supposed to be able to choose a keyboard model in regional & language, but nothing's in the dropdown
[02:57] <b0rt> AxlRose: look what process is compsuming that
[02:58] <jp_> My Ubuntu install was fine.  Just did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and that's where I am now
[02:58] <b0rt> ic, maybe u needed to install more things with that
[02:58] <SlackRat> is it just me, or is freenode a bit  stormy tonite....?
[02:59] <b0rt> i need a fix for usb keyboards =S
[02:59] <AxlRose> b0rt:  usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-QWGdSx
[02:59] <b0rt> i destroy installation after reboot
[03:00] <b0rt> huh, whats that AxlRose?
[03:00] <AxlRose> b0rtL thats whats consuming the 20+% cpu
[03:01] <b0rt> AxlRose: im not xpert, is that the X itself?
[03:02] <AxlRose> b0rt: yes
[03:03] <roc364> hi, anyone with lirc running?
[03:03] <Skuller> soulrider: hey man....thnx a lot...the X is now up n running....and if i type the beryl manager runs too and beryl is working....but it gives an error....sumfin to do with pixmap
[03:05] <AxlRose> so is there anyone on that can help with high cpu usage by X
[03:07] <Adydas> apt-get remove x :P no, sorry just in one of those moods
[03:07] <Adydas> isnt there some program you can use to monitor that better
[03:07] <Adydas> whowatch
[03:08] <Adydas> nope thats users
[03:09] <Heavenquake> where is kde and qt placed in kubuntu?
[03:09] <Jucato> Heavenquake: what do you mean?
[03:09] <alan__> PROBLEM!!!!
[03:09] <vas> Hey i'm running Kubuntu, In System Settings > Accesability > Keyboard Shortcuts..I can change it so I can go up a Desktop or Down a desktop by like Win + Tab and Win + Tab + Shift but how do I have it like Win + Up a scroll
[03:09] <alan__> Compiling client/fonts/font_instance.cpp : Creation failed :
[03:09] <alan__> client/fonts/font_instance.cpp: In member function bool Font_instance::load(Loader*, char*, int32):
[03:09] <alan__> client/fonts/font_instance.cpp:71: error: TTF_OpenFontRW no se declar en este mbito
[03:09] <alan__> make[1] : *** [client/fonts/font_instance.o]  Error 1
[03:09] <alan__> make[1] : se sale del directorio `/home/alan/Desktop/nil/src'
[03:09] <alan__> make: *** [nil]  Error 2
[03:09] <Jucato> !pastebin | alan__
[03:09] <ubotu> alan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <Heavenquake> Jucato: I am doing this: http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3.4/branches_compiling.html (compiling the stuff from source), and need to know the stuff it wants me to "export" in step 4
[03:10] <paul_> hey alan__ i told you its bad. i managed to compile and link but was a mess
[03:10] <[rolamoto] > does anyone know how to install Kubuntu 7.04 herd 4 from terminak?
[03:10] <[rolamoto] > terminal*
[03:12] <alan__> :'(
[03:12] <paul_> is there a server?
[03:12] <paul_> for NIL?
[03:13] <Jucato> Heavenquake: ok just a sec
[03:14] <tarelerulz> I used  adept and installed firefox and when I try to run it from the menue it does nothing
[03:14] <tarelerulz> anyone else having that happen
[03:15] <Heavenquake> tarelerulz: try running it in a terminal
[03:15] <[rolamoto] > is there even a way to get Feisty without burning a CD?
[03:15] <Jucato> Heavenquake: KDEDIR is /usr not sure about QTDIR
[03:15] <Heavenquake>  /usr/lib/kde3 or?
[03:16] <tarelerulz> nothing happen when I run it from terminal either
[03:17] <Heavenquake> tarelerulz: error messages?
[03:17] <paul_> NIL really crash my linux...
[03:18] <Jucato> Heavenquake: no. KDEDIR is /usr. you can check with "kde-config --prefix"
[03:18] <DonMCN> Can somebody tell me how to uninstall Wine in the terminal?
[03:18] <Jucato> DonMCN: sudo apt-get remove wine
[03:18] <tarelerulz> You should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.
[03:18] <tarelerulz> Anyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.
[03:18] <tarelerulz> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:18] <tarelerulz> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:18] <tarelerulz> You should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.
[03:18] <tarelerulz> Anyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.
[03:18] <tarelerulz> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:18] <tarelerulz> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:19] <tarelerulz> my bad
[03:19] <DonMCN> thank you
[03:19] <HymnToLife> tarelerulz, use kdesu to run firefox
[03:19] <HymnToLife> or gksudo if you're using gnome
[03:19] <Jucato> er?
[03:19] <Heavenquake> Jucato: okay. How could I find out with qt?
[03:19] <soulrider> Skuller: im glad you could fix xorg, but you cant run beryl yeah ?
[03:19] <Jucato> tarelerulz: are you trying to launch it in a root prompt?
[03:19] <tarelerulz> I did it the other way and notthing
[03:19] <tarelerulz> not evern an error
[03:20] <Jucato> Heavenquake: not really sure... I'm presuming it's /usr too
[03:20] <Skuller> well....i ran beryl manager....the part where it checks the things it passes all except da pixmap thingy
[03:20] <sidnelson> how disable sudo ?? is just editing /etc/sudoers or visudo :)
[03:20] <Skuller> soulrider: well....i ran beryl manager....the part where it checks the things it passes all except da pixmap thingy
[03:20] <DonMCN> Can somebody tell me how to set Sun Java 6 as the default Java player in the Konsole?
[03:20] <Jucato> !sudo | sidnelson
[03:20] <ubotu> sidnelson: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:21] <Jucato> DonMCN: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:21] <HymnToLife> sidnelson, visudo just open /etc/sudoers in a text editor
[03:21] <Heavenquake> Jucato: okay.. what should I write in KDEVELOPDIR ?
[03:21] <soulrider> Skuller: sorry, but i cant help you there :(
[03:21] <sidnelson> ubotu: thanks
[03:21] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:21] <tarelerulz> So any thing I can do
[03:21] <Jucato> Heavenquake: hmm basic question.. why are you compiling KDevelop yourself?
[03:22] <tarelerulz> Alot of program have not been luaching with I install them from adapt
[03:22] <sidnelson> ok them
[03:22] <Heavenquake> Jucato: because I want a feature that was uploaded to the svn server one hour ago, at my request
[03:22] <Skuller> soulrider: ohh....yea well i lukd for help in the official documentation...and came to this page...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy...if i folllow the instructions on this page accurately my X wont start up again
[03:22] <sidnelson> HymnTolife: thanks
[03:23] <HymnToLife> sidnelson, is is recomended you use visudo though because it wil also check the file for syntax errors
[03:23] <Jucato> Heavenquake: then KDEDEVELOPDIR should be where you will install KDevelop (from source)
[03:23] <franklin> i asked this question a couple of nights ago, but the answer i was given didn't work. I use konqueror and i want to know to know how to turn off http referrer logging
[03:23] <tarelerulz> berly just stopped working on me one day too haha
[03:23] <HymnToLife> so you're not locked without sudo if you do one
[03:23] <sidnelson> HymnToLife: ok
[03:23] <Heavenquake> Jucato: something I just can choose, or is there a dir I must choose here?
[03:24] <Jucato> Heavenquake: that actually depends on you. you do know how to compile from SVN right?
[03:24] <DonMCN> Can somebody tell me how to remove Xfce?
[03:24] <DonMCN> Doing this command does not work: sudo apt-get remove xfce
[03:24] <Heavenquake> Jucato: until a few hours ago, I didn't even know what SVN was, so no..
[03:24] <Jucato> Heavenquake: anyway, KDEDEVELOPDIR is one you choose. where you choose to install KDevelop
[03:24] <soulrider> Skuller: maybe you should ask for help int he effects channel
[03:24] <franklin> don... sudo apt-get remove xfce
[03:25] <soulrider> !beryl | Skuller
[03:25] <ubotu> Skuller: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:25] <Skuller> soulrider: thnx...i'll i will
[03:25] <DonMCN> franklin: I did that, and it said Xfce package not found
[03:25] <Jucato> Heavenquake: er? hm... that's going to be a bit difficult. #kdevelop guys are unavailable?
[03:25] <soulrider> DonMCN: Xfce or xfce
[03:25] <franklin> good point
[03:26] <DonMCN> Xfce
[03:26] <DonMCN> I have tried both, and they do not work
[03:26] <Heavenquake> Jucato: will /usr do here too? - guys in there are mostly idling, or just referring to the guide.
[03:26] <soulrider> use xfce
[03:26] <soulrider> lowercase
[03:26] <DonMCN> It does not work, I've tried it
[03:26] <Jucato> Heavenquake: it's up to you. but I don't personally recommend installing anything you compile from source in /usr
[03:26] <franklin> how often do most of you reinstall or do you wait for the next version
[03:26] <Jucato> Heavenquake: are you familiar with compiling from source code?
[03:27] <Heavenquake> Jucato: a bit. But it's not something I'm used to. yet, i feel i need to learn it sooner or later
[03:27] <Jucato> Heavenquake: you know the --prefix flag used in ./configure right?
[03:28] <Heavenquake> hmm.. no? But isn't it just good enough to take it step by step?
[03:28] <Jucato> !compile
[03:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:29] <Heavenquake> I feel like learning by doing...
[03:29] <Jucato> Heavenquake: ./configure --prefix=/directory/to/install <--- that will direct the installation to install in a different directory.
[03:29] <Jucato> Heavenquake: ok then, do it step by step as you said :)
[03:29] <Jucato> Heavenquake: try getting familiar with compiling, specially the --prefix option. that wiki page will help a bit
[03:30] <Heavenquake> yes.. But.. the KDEVELOPDIR can be /usr too, without messing up anything.. right?
[03:30] <tarelerulz> So any of you have program not work when installed from adept
[03:30] <raindog>  I have Beryl installed and working fine with Aiglx under Edgy.  I usually use a gnome/beryl session, but on occasion I use KDE.  When I run beryl-manager in KDE it works just fine.  Now here's my question:  In KDE, my wallpaper resets to that of my gnome session and when I right-click on the desktop I get the default gnome menu rather than the usual KDE menu.  Why am I getting these gnome related parts in KDE?
[03:30] <Jucato> Heavenquake: it can mess up anything, because /usr is the place where APT installs by default
[03:31] <Jucato> Heavenquake: but if you want to risk it, go ahead
[03:31] <Heavenquake> hm... So creating /usr/kdevelop3.4 and using that is better, i figure?
[03:31] <paul_> Heavenquake: Better use something under /opt
[03:31] <paul_> for me i found its easier to handle
[03:31] <Jucato> Heavenquake: anywhere you want. I'm just recommending not in /usr. just my personal recommendation :)
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Is it normally this quiet?
[03:35] <Jucato> only since you came in...
[03:36] <stdin> we were talking about you
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Oh well I'm legally blind and deaf so blather away
[03:36] <Heavenquake> Jucato: Okay.. now I try ./configure --prefix=$KDEVELOPDIR - which returns a lot of "no"'s, and in the end terminates with an error : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:37] <stdin> !xincludes
[03:37] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[03:37] <SlackRat> if
[03:37] <Jucato> Heavenquake: ^^^^
[03:37] <pablo_> Hola hay alguien que me pueda ayudar con una webcam genius
[03:37] <SlackRat> oops, wrong window
[03:37] <Jucato> notably, xorg-dev
[03:38] <DaSkreech> !es | pablo_
[03:38] <ubotu> pablo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:39] <Heavenquake> Jucato: thanks
[03:40] <pablo_> thanks!!
[03:40] <Jucato> Heavenquake: stdin too
[03:40] <Heavenquake> stdin: thank you also
[03:41] <stdin> you're welcome Heavenquake :)
[03:41] <tarelerulz> I want to install firefox What do I do
[03:41] <DaSkreech> !xkobo
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkobo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <DaSkreech> !firefox
[03:42] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:42] <DaSkreech> !firefox | tarelerulz
[03:42] <ubotu> tarelerulz: please see above
[03:42] <stdin> tarelerulz: install it with the Adept Package Mamager
[03:42] <stdin> *Manager
[03:42] <stdin> :P
[03:42] <paul_> is there a simple way to get the comlete autoconf/make stuff?
[03:42] <tarelerulz> No being dumb use adept and it does not work with from menu or terminal
[03:43] <Jucato> paul_: what do you mean?
[03:43] <flaccid_> paul_: install the meta package build-essential ?
[03:43] <paul_> i installed the build-essential
[03:43] <Jucato> flaccid_: doesn't install those
[03:43] <Jucato> paul_: sudo apt-get install autconf automake1.9
[03:43] <Jucato> one line to install :D
[03:43] <flaccid_> it doesn't
[03:43] <flaccid_> hmm
[03:44] <DaSkreech> tarelerulz: Whats wrong?
[03:44] <Jucato> flaccid_: nope. it doesn't "D
[03:44] <Jucato> :D
[03:44] <flaccid_> it should it include autoconf, wonder why not
[03:44] <Heavenquake> Jucato:
[03:44] <Heavenquake> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[03:44] <Heavenquake> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[03:44] <tarelerulz> I don't know what is wrong I run it and it does nothing
[03:45] <Heavenquake> it says
[03:45] <tarelerulz> no error or anything
[03:45] <Jucato> Heavenquake: install kde-devel or kdelibs4-dev
[03:45] <Steven_M> hi all
[03:45] <Steven_M> what's the terminal command for starting kde's power manager?
[03:46] <flaccid_> hmm i would regard autoconf as a build essential, ah well
[03:46] <Skuller> *yo
[03:46] <Jucato> flaccid_: apparently Ubuntu (or Debian) doesn't :D
[03:46] <Skuller> Jucato: how do u do that "*jucato doesnt know..." thingy?
[03:47] <stdin> flaccid_: for cvs and the like, yeah, but most source tarballs don't need it
[03:47] <stdin> Skuller: type: /me something
[03:47] <Jucato> Skuller: /me message
[03:47] <Skuller> ohh...thnx
[03:47] <Skuller> lol
[03:47] <stdin> heh
[03:48] <Skuller> man i m lovin irc
[03:48] <flaccid_> autoconf is a good habit to get into imho but thats only my opinion
[03:48] <flaccid_> (considering ubuntu is a jack of all trades distro)
[03:49] <Steven_M> anyone know?
[03:49] <stdin> flaccid_: do I agree, it should at least reccommend automake/conf
[03:49] <DaSkreech> tarelerulz: What are you running? can you paste the line here?
[03:49] <flaccid_> yep recommend would be nice :)
[03:49] <kubuntu01> hi
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Steven_M: One second
[03:50] <Jucato> Skuller: one of the mysteries of the universe
[03:50] <kubuntu01> well im noob at linux
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Steven_M: Guidance-power-manager
[03:50] <kubuntu01> first time i join here
[03:50] <kubuntu01> XD
[03:50] <flaccid_> people have the right to speak when they want to. pretty is to understand :)
[03:50] <flaccid_> er easy
[03:50] <kubuntu01> hey do u play warcraft_
[03:51] <kubuntu01> 3
[03:51] <Adydas> warcraft works on ubunut?
[03:51] <kubuntu01> yay with wine
[03:51] <DaSkreech> kubuntu01: Welcome to kubuntu
[03:51] <Adydas> oh
[03:51] <kubuntu01> ty man
[03:51] <Adydas> i suppose thats ok.
[03:51] <kubuntu01> well i can play it very well
[03:51] <kubuntu01> and with beryl runing
[03:52] <kubuntu01> oh, i never tryed, im noob lol
[03:52] <Adydas> you dont need wine for UT2004
[03:52] <Adydas> in saying that, i cant get it going
[03:52] <paul_> why dont you use windows if you want to play?
[03:52] <paul_> its only a toy
[03:52] <Skuller> Adydas: yea i was actually referring to ut99
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Skuller: ut2003 and up run native on Linux
[03:52] <Adydas> oh ok
[03:53] <Adydas> didnt see that
[03:53] <kubuntu01> well, paul just wanted to try the xgl server
[03:53] <Skuller> DaSkreech: oh...thas cool...but its only ut99 that u can play online on servers legally with a pirate copy
[03:53] <Steven_M> DaSkreech: thanks :)
[03:53] <Adydas> i get gay errors that make no sense at all
[03:53] <Skuller> DaSkreech: i mean not legally...but easily
[03:53] <kubuntu01> >D
[03:53] <kubuntu01> jeje
[03:53] <Skuller> jeje?
[03:54] <kubuntu01> ya im from Colombia
[03:54] <Adydas> Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 
[03:54] <Adydas> fudge knows what that means
[03:54] <DaSkreech> Skuller: The game costs 15 dollars for the GOTY edition. Suck it up and pony up
[03:54] <Heavenquake> Jucato: checking for Berkeley DB >= 4.1... configure: error: no - please install Berkeley DB >= 4.1 what's that package named?
[03:54] <DaSkreech> Skuller: Plus for a company that actually make the effort to have games run on LInux pay them for it and let them know why you bought it.
[03:55] <kubuntu01> hey some1 using kubuntu_
[03:55] <kubuntu01> ?
[03:55] <tarelerulz> when I install it with the abept it does not at all
[03:55] <SlackRat> .......
[03:55] <tarelerulz> in the menu nor the terminal
[03:55] <Jucato> Heavenquake: "sudo apt-get build-dep kdevelop" will install the needed headers/packages you need to compile KDevelop
[03:55] <Skuller> DaSkreech: yes u have me there man...but the thing is i live in a reali crap country named 'fiji'....not much developed in terms of original pc games trade..or even any type of PC games for that matter
[03:56] <DaSkreech> tarelerulz: How did you install it in the terminal?
[03:56] <tarelerulz> I used adept
[03:56] <tarelerulz> I mean I ran it with termial and I run it from the menus nither worked
[03:57] <Skuller> DaSkreech: the only source of pc games is torrents for me....ordering online from other countries is a hassle and not an easy matter to explain to indian parents especially if ur only 17
[03:57] <SlackRat> whats the best way to unrar something in kubuntu?
[03:57] <stdin> !rar
[03:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:57] <Jucato> SlackRat: install "unrar" and use Ark?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Skuller: I know it's harder in some countries to find legal software than illegal (I live in one) but a) the game works on Linux cmon. and b) you can write them and ask for a Serial and they will give you a valid one
[03:57] <stdin> SlackRat: read the message from ubotu
[03:57] <DaSkreech> tarelerulz: Ah! It's installed already? It just won't work?
[03:57] <tarelerulz> yes
[03:58] <tarelerulz> Firefox does not work at all
[03:58] <Jucato> stdin: !rar | SlackRat is easer to say :D
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Skuller: can You run Ut2004 on your machine?
[03:58] <kubuntu01> firefox does work
[03:58] <momal> can someone give me quick command to completly format a harddrive.. I want to remove the mbr from it as well :)P
[03:58] <tarelerulz> on my computer it does not
[03:58] <stdin> Jucato: I know, I just didn't for some reason :P
[03:58] <Skuller> DaSkreech: i do not have the kubun version...so i only play it on xp
[03:58] <kubuntu01> what OS tarele
[03:58] <kubuntu01> ?
[03:58] <SlackRat> oh, ok, ark will handle it then, since i have unrar installed.....thanx
[03:59] <tarelerulz> Kubuntu is the os
[03:59] <DonMCN> Okay everybody I have a situation
[03:59] <DonMCN> My sound works on one side of my Kubuntu, but on another user it does not
[03:59] <Skuller> dsabut i m more into ut9 bcoz of its ease of use in playing online with a pirate copy and less bandwidth required to play online coz i m on slow broadband
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Skuller: You are on Windows now? :)
[03:59] <Skuller> DaSkreech: no....kubun
[03:59] <stdin> momal: in konsole type "man mkfs" or in konqueror man:/mkfs
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Skuller: I guess I can see with the broadband issue
[03:59] <Skuller> DaSkreech: but i m more into ut9 bcoz of its ease of use in playing online with a pirate copy and less bandwidth required to play online coz i m on slow broadband
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Though I have played UT2004 on dial up
[04:00] <Skuller> DaSkreech: yea...
[04:00] <DonMCN> My sound works on my main account, but on a secondary account it does not work at all.
[04:00] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: Check to see if it a member of the audio group
[04:00] <Skuller> DaSkreech: oh thas gud...but for me being in fiji...the lowest ping on servers i get is in the US...and that also a minimum of 250ms...so if i play with that ping on dialup...i wud rather chuck mah system out da window hehe
[04:00] <DonMCN> Can you explain to me how I can do that, I am new to Kubuntu
[04:01] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: alt+space -> System -> press enter
[04:01] <DonMCN> DaSkreech: I'm a bit confused with that command, it does not work.
[04:01] <pablo_> hi folks
[04:02] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: Press alt+space it start up katapult
[04:02] <pablo_> how can i do for listening in four speackers?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> pablo_: Welcome back
[04:02] <flaccid_> DaSkreech: perhaps hes not running katapult.
[04:02] <DonMCN> Alt+Space does nothing. I am on Xfce, not on KDE.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: blasphemy!!
[04:03] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: :-P
[04:03] <kubuntu01> well
[04:03] <DonMCN> But its under Kubuntu.
[04:03] <flaccid_> katapult doesn't cover everything thats why i don't use it
[04:03] <kubuntu01> i had no problem with the 4 speakers to sound
[04:03] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: Umm I'm not sure do You have a system like in Ubuntu?
[04:03] <pablo_> yeah
[04:03] <DonMCN> I have system settings under my KDE version of Kubuntu
[04:03] <`Z`> hello
[04:03] <DonMCN> But on Xfce I'm not sure at all where it is.
[04:03] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: covers enough
[04:03] <SlackRat> wow, Xarchiver was so much smoother....
[04:03] <flaccid_> enough for you
[04:04] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: well Look for something that looks like User Config or user/group administration
[04:04] <DonMCN> Okay
[04:04] <pablo_> i cant configure two outs
[04:04] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: in the properties of your second user see if the audio group is checked
[04:04] <DonMCN> DaSkreech let me get onto my main account and under KDE and I'll get back on Konversation.
[04:05] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: Other than command line (which alt+f2 covers) what doesn't it do for you?
[04:05] <pablo_> DaSkreech: how can i do that?
[04:05] <flaccid_> DaSkreech: thats what it doesn't cover
[04:05] <flaccid_> why do you need both? thats my point
[04:05] <flaccid_> if it did cli, then i would use it
[04:05] <root_____> hola
[04:06] <DonMCN> Okay I'm back
[04:06] <`Z`> hey please, could someone help me to create an inird img for booting on a Xen kernel ?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Skuller: we aren't? then why did I just mail off a bill to you?
[04:06] <`Z`> ( i don't speak englsih as well so scuse me :/ )
[04:07] <pablo_> DaSkreech: can u give me your msn? for a private conversation
[04:07] <flaccid_> Z, we help with kubuntu here, don't know if you will find someone that will help
[04:07] <DonMCN> DaSkreech: I'm on KDE now.
[04:07] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: it makes commands much shorter plus it can search the net metadata etc
[04:07] <spawn57> DaSkreech: me too
[04:07] <spawn57> =D
[04:07] <Skuller> DaSkreech: lol....well i guess u arent...but dont expect a bill return tho...
[04:07] <pablo_> yes, but do u have aMSN?
[04:07] <flaccid_> DaSkreech: i know what it can do. i also know what it can't do.
[04:07] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: Alt+space -> system -> <press enter>
[04:07] <pablo_> lol
[04:07] <pablo_> ok
[04:07] <stdin> `Z`: what's your native language, there may be a channel for it
[04:08] <`Z`> flaccid_, if that can persuadr you, i'm running on Kubuntu XD
[04:08] <DaSkreech> pablo_: I don't use MSN and I don't know about 4 speakers sorry
[04:08] <`Z`> stdin, french
[04:08] <`Z`> :/
[04:08] <stdin> !fr
[04:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:08] <`Z`> but in france, all is sleeping xD
[04:08] <pablo_> ok, DaSkreech
[04:08] <Skuller> lol
[04:08] <DonMCN> ok I got on Users and Groups. does the secondary user have to be on the audio group for audio to work?
[04:08] <flaccid_> z, you might have better luck in ##linux
[04:08] <`Z`> are ? or is ?
[04:08] <Heavenquake> Jucato: http://pastebin.ca/369880 ... now what's that?
[04:09] <Heavenquake> during make
[04:09] <Jucato> Heavenquake: btw, you have to get used to this kind of troubleshooting when compiling anything from source
[04:09] <pablo_> kde is full of errors
[04:09] <DaSkreech> pablo_: If it helps you may be able to ask in #ubuntu as well. Audio should kind of work the same
[04:09] <`Z`> but i can speak in C programing
[04:09] <stdin> `Z`: there are xen packages for ubuntu
[04:09] <pablo_> gnome is better
[04:09] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: Yup
[04:09] <DonMCN> Thank you let me go try it
[04:09] <stdin> !xen | `Z`
[04:09] <ubotu> `Z`: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[04:09] <DaSkreech> pablo_: What errors?
[04:09] <`Z`> if (!strcmp(country,"france")) { sleep(); }
[04:10] <Heavenquake> Jucato: ya I know.
[04:10] <`Z`> yeah stdin , but :
[04:10] <`Z`> Dpaquetage de xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 ( partir de .../xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0_2.6.17-6_i386.deb) ...
[04:10] <`Z`> Paramtrage de xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 (2.6.17-6) ...
[04:10] <`Z`> Please manually create an initrd image
[04:10] <pablo_> for example... kubuntu 6.10 is full of error in the boot
[04:10] <Jucato> !pastebin | `Z`
[04:10] <ubotu> `Z`: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <flaccid_> if ($inWrongChan) { gotoRightChan(); }
[04:10] <DaSkreech> pablo_: What kind of errors?
[04:10] <`Z`> >_>
[04:11] <stdin> `Z`: man update-initramfs
[04:11] <pablo_> the sys doesn't boot cos it has troubles with some files and i dont know what more...
[04:11] <Jucato> Heavenquake: you have build-essential installed already, right?
[04:11] <flaccid_> segfaults are usually impossible to fix if no apparent probem exists. can be hardware or the software
[04:12] <Jucato> ouch
[04:12] <pablo_> is because of that i use gnome
[04:12] <Jucato> Heavenquake: might want to ask #kdevelop devs
[04:12] <`Z`> ok stdin thx
[04:12] <Jucato> Heavenquake: looks like one of their source codes.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> pablo_: ok. If that works for you :) don't want to make your life harder
[04:12] <stdin> `Z`: I'm not an expert in it, but that seems a good place to start
[04:12] <Jucato> Heavenquake: you should, however, expect things like these when compiling from SVN
[04:12] <flaccid_> segfaults are like drinking at a bar being told you can't have anymore, but you want to drink more
[04:12] <Heavenquake> Jucato: yes I have build-essential. Installed it when I had to compile a driver from source.
[04:12] <pablo_> ok
[04:13] <`Z`> stdin, ok man, i'm looking this, apparently it's that i'm looking for
[04:14] <flaccid_> is xen good?
[04:15] <lu-bao> does somebody know a solution to get my Hauppauge DVB-T Nova-T to work at sound in kaffeine ?
[04:15] <crackhead25> question: what's everyone's opinion on the amd64 release of kubuntu? is it full of problems? is the x86 still the way to go? enough driver compatibility for peripherals, etc.?
[04:15] <flaccid_> crackhead25: most people think its not enough
[04:15] <`Z`> yeah :D
[04:15] <`Z`> great stdin
[04:16] <`Z`> thx man, it's ok :)
[04:16] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: zen Is :)
[04:16] <crackhead25> anyone have a good recommendation for which distro is best for a 64 chip, or is there none?
[04:16] <flaccid_> sweet
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !musicbrainz
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about musicbrainz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Heavenquake> crackhead25: I'm still searching for a reason for using 64bit software... It is not yet better than 32bit.. not so much better that it matters, at least
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !libtunepimp
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libtunepimp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <flaccid_> can xen do windows partition in guest os vm?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !find pimp
[04:16] <ubotu> Found: libtunepimp-bin, libtunepimp3, libtunepimp3-dev, libtunepimp-perl, libtunepimp3-mp3 (and 3 others)
[04:16] <`Z`> now reboot, i will come back ^^
[04:17] <InuDuelist> Hay guys. What was the name of the package that gives the mp3 codec?
[04:17] <lu-bao> http://paste.debian.net/22534  <-- somebody know a solution to bring this to work with sound? *actually only videostream works without sound*
[04:17] <Jucato> InuDuelist: libxine-extracodecs
[04:17] <InuDuelist> Thanks, Jucato
[04:17] <milardovich> i have a question (sory for my bad english)
[04:18] <DaSkreech> flaccid_: I think it can with hardware support
[04:18] <milardovich> how can i delete a file with "sudo" command?
[04:18] <milardovich> pienso que debe ser facil :P
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | InuDuelist
[04:18] <stdin> milardovich: sudo rm file
[04:18] <ubotu> InuDuelist: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <lu-bao> milardovich, sudo rm -rf filename.ending
[04:18] <milardovich> ok, i will try
[04:19] <InuDuelist> Bah.
[04:19] <lu-bao> now thats great not anyone here knows a way for that sound issue? :)  http://paste.debian.net/22534
[04:19] <InuDuelist> I keep getting this error on Amarok, starting the moment I loaded today:
[04:19] <InuDuelist> No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[04:19] <InuDuelist> file:///home/dementual/music/Dragonforce - Cry Of The Brave.mp3
[04:19] <milardovich> bash: milardovich,: orden no encontrada
[04:20] <flaccid_> InuDuelist: no thats actually a xine problem
[04:20] <InuDuelist> Really?
[04:20] <milardovich> its work!
[04:20] <InuDuelist> What would I do?
[04:20] <milardovich> thank you
[04:20] <flaccid_> yeah it doesn't support streams very well
[04:21] <lu-bao> oookay .... then without kubuntu
[04:21] <pirothezero> so i keep getting Segmentation fault in firefox anyone have any idea why that might be
[04:21] <milardovich> and there is a method who dont need the konsole?
[04:21] <pirothezero> i want to downgrade to 1.5
[04:21] <milardovich> a "visual method"?
[04:22] <flaccid_> pirothezero: could be anything
[04:22] <shiv> why is automatix site down does anybody know?
[04:22] <flaccid_> most you can do is google it or ask in #firefox
[04:22] <DaSkreech> milardovich: alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror
[04:22] <pirothezero> its the only thing that does and its pissing me off
[04:22] <stdin> milardovich: use konqueror as root
[04:22] <crackhead25> anyone know how well kubuntu is at supporting wireless usb network adapters? does it always require using ndiswrapper?
[04:22] <InuDuelist> flaccid_: What would I do?
[04:23] <milardovich> ohhh thanks DaSkreech, its very easy!
[04:23] <milardovich> i love linux!
[04:23] <flaccid_> crackhead25: check if its supported
[04:23] <DaSkreech> milardovich: Yes it is :)
[04:23] <flaccid_> InuDuelist: use a dif engine for that type of stream
[04:23] <DaSkreech> milardovich: want to marry it? eyes off I asked first!!!
[04:23] <milardovich> xD
[04:23] <milardovich> nono i will hit you
[04:23] <milardovich> xD
[04:24] <crackhead25> flaccid: check where?
[04:24] <flaccid_> !wireless
[04:24] <BeefotronX> I think I've tried all the usual stuff and I can't make my wacom tablet work.
[04:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:24] <flaccid_> could be a link on there crackhead25
[04:24] <flaccid_> mayday mayday, theres a crackhead lifting up the bus!
[04:24] <DaSkreech> milardovich: I will fight for her! She is too beautiful
[04:24] <crackhead25> haha
[04:25] <crackhead25> you bet, man
[04:25] <vioscar> necesito ayuda con la instalacion del driver nvidia
[04:25] <flaccid_> red balls! gives you wings
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Course I could say she is too easy o.0
[04:25] <vioscar> lo acabo de daar
[04:25] <DaSkreech> !nivida | vioscar
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <flaccid_> nah she puts out too much
[04:25] <DaSkreech> !nvida | vioscar
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <milardovich> vioscar speak spanish?
[04:25] <flaccid_> !nv
[04:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <vioscar> ok... I write a little english :P
[04:26] <vioscar> thanks... I will see the link
[04:26] <DaSkreech> !es | vioscar
[04:26] <ubotu> vioscar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:27] <milardovich> vioscar http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/227
[04:28] <skint0r> is it possible to get opera installed in kubuntu amd64? i keep getting an error about system mismatch in dpkg
[04:28] <vioscar> ok thanks man
[04:29] <DaSkreech> skint0r: you may need a fakeroot
[04:29] <hammer_> hi
[04:29] <DaSkreech> !fakeroot
[04:29] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB
[04:30] <skint0r> hmm ok
[04:30] <DaSkreech> !find kobo
[04:30] <ubotu> Found: kobodeluxe
[04:30] <hammer_> where to add line with mgetty in edgy? inittab won't work afaik..
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Whoops
[04:31] <hammer_> !mgetty
[04:32] <ubotu> mgetty: Smart Modem getty replacement. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.35-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 166 kB, installed size 392 kB
[04:32] <ccherrett> is it safe to run an upgrade to edgy?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> ccherrett: What are you running now?
[04:32] <InuDuelist> Hey guys, Amarok stopped playing .mp3 files and I can't find how to fix it
[04:32] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[04:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:32] <InuDuelist> Didn't help.
[04:33] <ccherrett> DaSkreech: I think Dapper
[04:33] <stdin> !upgrade | ccherrett
[04:33] <ubotu> ccherrett: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:33] <tarelerulz> any of you had problem with berly
[04:33] <DaSkreech> ccherrett: it's safe in that it shouldn't break anything too badly but you do lose LTS
[04:34] <ccherrett> DaSkreech: LTS?
[04:34] <stdin> !lts
[04:34] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:34] <milardovich> and how can i do to stop my apache server?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !LTS
[04:34] <DaSkreech> damn
[04:34] <stdin> milardovich: it'll be something like: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop
[04:35] <milardovich> ok
[04:35] <skint0r> DaSkreech: how exactly would i use that? the error i get is "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"
[04:36] <DaSkreech> !x86-64
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86-64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <stdin> !amd64
[04:36] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[04:37] <InuDuelist> Anyone wanna help me with the mp3 problem? :(
[04:37] <DaSkreech> I can never remember that one
[04:39] <spawn57> InuDuelist: just ask
[04:39] <InuDuelist> Ask what?
[04:39] <InuDuelist> The problem again?
[04:39] <InuDuelist> OK.
[04:39] <InuDuelist> [19:32:39]  <InuDuelist> Hey guys, Amarok stopped playing .mp3 files and I can't find how to fix it
[04:40] <InuDuelist> I'm assuming that I screwed with my sound card settings
[04:40] <InuDuelist> But I dunno how to revert them back to what they were.
[04:40] <SlackRat> check kmix for volumes
[04:41] <InuDuelist> Not the problem.
[04:41] <InuDuelist> Here's the error.
[04:41] <SlackRat> check that amarok is the choice when you click on an mp3 file, to open them
[04:41] <InuDuelist> No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[04:41] <InuDuelist> file:///home/dementual/music/Zune/System of a Down/Mezmerize [Clean] /07 Violent Pornography.mp3
[04:42] <franklin> hates mp3s... convert everything to ogg and anything can open them... easy, easy
[04:42] <InuDuelist> There's the error I get when attempting to play it.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> It, or any other mp3.
[04:42] <InuDuelist> .wma files work.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> InuDuelist: Did you try purging mp3 support and reinstalling it?
[04:42] <InuDuelist> No.
[04:42] <SlackRat> they were working before tho?
[04:42] <franklin> .wma files on linux
[04:42] <Jucato> InuDuelist: can you check if Amarok is the only one having problems? Try playing an MP3 in Kaffeine
[04:42] <franklin> might as well use windows
[04:42] <InuDuelist> Alright
[04:42] <InuDuelist> One sec.
[04:43] <InuDuelist> franklin: Or I could not. <3.
[04:43] <franklin> why even do wma?
[04:43] <InuDuelist> Because they were there.
[04:43] <InuDuelist> What the hell.
[04:43] <pirothezero> psa to the channel: if anyone gets segmentation faults on firefox 2.0.0.1 on edgy try renaming your .mozilla folder and restart firefox to make a new one seems to have worked for me
[04:43] <DaSkreech> pirothezero: You could just try a new profile
[04:43] <ibb> how can i mount a usb mp3 player
[04:43] <DaSkreech> firefox --profile-manager  I think
[04:43] <DaSkreech> !ipod
[04:43] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:43] <franklin> free software only here, and i don't understand the linux people who don't feel the same way
[04:44] <SlackRat> man mount
[04:44] <ibb> no ipod here
[04:44] <DaSkreech> ibb: Is it a MTP player?
[04:44] <pirothezero> depends ibb, i plugged my 3 gen for the first time last night and it auto detected it perfectly then used gtkpod, today though i switched over to amarok
[04:44] <InuDuelist> Bah.
[04:44] <ibb> yes, i used to be able to put stuff on it using linux but i cant now, unkown why
[04:44] <InuDuelist> Kaffeine still doesn't open.
[04:44] <DaSkreech> franklin: You are always going to be tied to closed software at some point
[04:45] <franklin> never
[04:45] <InuDuelist> Jucato: Doesn't open in Noatun.
[04:45] <InuDuelist> And Kaffeine doesn't open period.
[04:45] <DaSkreech> InuDuelist: mp3123?
[04:45] <Jucato> InuDuelist: Noautun doesn't use xine afaik
[04:45] <InuDuelist> Meh.
[04:45] <franklin> daskreech, i've been using linux since 98, and i have no closed source stuff on my machine
[04:45] <Jucato> Noatun*
[04:46] <DaSkreech> franklin: including your BIOS? :)
[04:46] <InuDuelist> Well, it won't open in Amarok.
[04:46] <ibb> i dont have the sd* in dev
[04:46] <franklin> free bios
[04:46] <InuDuelist> And Kaffeine doesn't open at all. It poofs.
[04:46] <DaSkreech> franklin: sweet. Which Mobo?
[04:46] <ibb> kaffeine is not a good player
[04:46] <ibb> at all
[04:46] <stdin> ibb: so "ls /dev/sd*" shows nothing ?
[04:46] <InuDuelist> Jucato: It opens in VLC Media Player.
[04:46] <ibb> none
[04:46] <franklin> i thinkk it's an american something or other
[04:47] <Jucato> InuDuelist: might be a xine thing then (amarok and kaffeine use the xine engine)
[04:47] <stdin> ibb: are you sure it's plugged in properly ?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> franklin: How did you install the BIOS?
[04:47] <franklin> i didn;t do it, a friend did... i was reluctant to hose it up
[04:47] <InuDuelist> Nah, Jucato, Kaffeine hasn't been opening in weeks.
[04:47] <InuDuelist> Should I try purging and reinstalling?
[04:47] <ibb> stdin: when i do kde info i see it as sandisk, that it is
[04:47] <crystufer2000> Yo. What do I need to burn an audio cd from mp3's?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> franklin:  so what happens if you need to upgrade your board?
[04:47] <ibb> crystufer2000: u need k3b
[04:47] <DaSkreech> crystufer2000: k3b
[04:48] <crystufer2000> got that.
[04:48] <crystufer2000> Says unsupported format.
[04:48] <Jucato> crystufer2000: libk3b2-mp3
[04:48] <franklin> i shouldn;t have to for some time, and by then there should be more free bioses written
[04:48] <DaSkreech> InuDuelist: can't kill you
[04:48] <stdin> ibb: is there anything in syslog when you plug it in?
[04:48] <Jucato> !info libk3b2-mp3 | crystufer2000
[04:48] <adwelin> do someone know how to shearch a package on kde???
[04:48] <ubotu> crystufer2000: libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:48] <crystufer2000> thank you.
[04:48] <DaSkreech> franklin: got around to replacing the firmware on your hard drives?
[04:48] <franklin> there is some greeat info on gnu/fsf
[04:48] <Jucato> adwelin: use Adept, or type "apt:/:" in Konqueror?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: How come that gets to be universe?
[04:49] <ibb> stdin: yes it says the usb has been connected
[04:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: dunno. I'm not a packager (yet)
[04:49] <adwelin> i dont know how to use adept...
[04:49] <franklin> daskreech... i dont think there is any
[04:49] <Jucato> !adept | adwelin
[04:49] <ubotu> adwelin: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:49] <InuDuelist> Damn it.
[04:49] <InuDuelist> Purged and reinstalled it.
[04:49] <DaSkreech> franklin: I'd doubt there is
[04:49] <InuDuelist> Still doesn't open. :/.
[04:49] <adwelin> tanks
[04:50] <ibb> stdin: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[04:50] <franklin> i low level formatted thiese drives when i bougt the machine
[04:50] <jmichaelx> have any others been having issues with amarok 1.4.5 crashing at bootup?
[04:50] <stdin> ibb: anything after that?
[04:50] <ibb> stdin: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice
[04:51] <ibb> stdin: here is the whole line: [17185287.408000]  usb 4-4: configuration #128 chosen from 1 choice
[04:52] <stdin> ibb: and that's it, nothing after that? and nothing about SCSI?
[04:52] <InuDuelist> Jucato: How do I revert Xine settings back to what they were yesterday?
[04:52] <InuDuelist> Awww.
[04:52] <Jucato> sorry
[04:53] <franklin> dasreech, you don't use all free software?
[04:53] <ibb> stdin: that is all
[04:53] <adwelin> adept is shuting down anormally....
[04:53] <SlackRat> i thought adept always started up abnormally ....   :-P
[04:54] <ibb> stdin: kinfocenter says; Sansa e250 on EHCI Host Controller(4)
[04:54] <adwelin> i'm ok
[04:54] <stdin> ibb: hmm, that's strange
[04:54] <adwelin> but it did'nt find my application...
[04:55] <jmichaelx> would someone here know what might possible cause kaffeine to refuse to open?
[04:55] <jmichaelx> possibly*
[04:55] <ibb> jmichaelx: plugins non existent, what are u opening?
[04:56] <adwelin> i can't install cedega...
[04:56] <ibb> stdin: what should i look up now?
[04:57] <[Relic] > any way of getting shell to recoginize \ instead of having it disappear?   or is there a way to sudo the system menu?
[04:58] <InuDuelist> Anyone got any ideas how I would go about reinstalling the xine engine?
[04:59] <stdin> ibb: not sure, it seems to be seeing that a device is connected, but it's not recognising it as a storage device
[04:59] <stdin> [Relic] : sudo the system menu? what do you mean?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> franklin: I mostly do but I don't see why you should be dogmatic about it
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Bye
[05:00] <jmichaelx> ibb: this is on a friend's PC... he told me that kaffeine would no longer open, and that mplayer crashes when he tries to open a video file with it
[05:01] <[Relic] > stdin, ressurected an old dos program but it left me with temp\Alpha\<bunch o dirs>  that the little system browser icon can erase for some reason and I can bulk rm them either
[05:01] <crystufer2000> K. K3b is working with my mp3's now. Thanks alll. I hope it burns good.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> franklin: Even stallman said that using closed software must happen but should be used as a path towards more free software
[05:02] <franklin> but stallman won't use non-free software
[05:02] <[Relic] > stdin, Access denied to /home/relic/.local/share/Trash/files/temp\Alpha1\STAR72.
[05:03] <jmichaelx> ibb: the dangers of introducing linux to non-tech-inclined friends
[05:03] <stdin> [Relic] : you can't delete it from trash:/ ?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> franklin: Yeah but he did for a good while
[05:04] <adwelin> my adept didn't detedt cedega package
[05:04] <DaSkreech> adwelin: It wouldn't
[05:04] <[Relic] > stdin, it isn't there
[05:04] <SlackRat> and DaSkreech shoots! and scores...........
[05:04] <adwelin> why?
[05:04] <ibb> jmichaelx: its the fun in getting to really know your system
[05:04] <DaSkreech> It can't be distributed like that
[05:05] <adwelin> ???
[05:05] <InuDuelist> So, anyone get any ideas what I should do with my Amarok/xine/soundcard/whateverelseappears problem?
[05:05] <jmichaelx> ibb: very true..... *nix makes computing computing again
[05:05] <flaccid_> if its a stream you can just keep trying it and it usually will load
[05:06] <adwelin> and, how can i play my winows games???
[05:06] <flaccid_> otherwise you have to recompile amarok with other engine support
[05:06] <DaSkreech> adwelin: install cedega
[05:06] <stdin> [Relic] : you can get the shell to recognise a '\' (escape charactor) by escaping it, so '\\', so the path would be /home/relic/.local/share/Trash/files/temp\\Alpha1\\STAR72
[05:06] <franklin> reinstall... quicker than killing yourself
[05:06] <InuDuelist> How would I do that?
[05:06] <InuDuelist> franklin: I'd like to avoid reinstalling, thx.
[05:06] <adwelin> i can't, adept didn't fint it...
[05:06] <Gtwy> anyone willing to look at my apache2 vhosts config and tell me what i need to change to add an SSL host
[05:06] <ibb> InuDuelist: sudo apt-get remove [program] 
[05:06] <InuDuelist> I know.
[05:06] <InuDuelist> But how would I reinstall it with other engine support?
[05:07] <[Relic] > that got rid of them  :)
[05:07] <jmichaelx> ibb: i once had video apps quit working for me as well.. on my laptop. i am sure there would have been a way to fix it, but i finally just reinstalled kubuntu, which is probably what i will get this friend of mine to do
[05:07] <franklin> i don't know why people don't like to reinstall. i reinstall my entire OS every three months like clockwork
[05:07] <ibb> InuDuelist: sudo apt-get install xine*
[05:07] <adwelin> how can i install cedega
[05:07] <kamui> whats the command to test key inputs that the xorg server is recieving?  Im ultimately trying to map my tablet pc's rotation button to a rotate script I wrote
[05:07] <SlackRat> reinstalling as a problem solver is a windows concept......
[05:07] <InuDuelist> That'd work if "xine" was a package.
[05:08] <jmichaelx> franklin: i can see what you are saying, but for me it means speanding an evening setting everything back up the way i want it
[05:08] <DaSkreech> adwelin: far as I know you compile it or buy it
[05:08] <ibb> InuDuelist: that is right, there is gxine as a package
[05:08] <stdin> [Relic] : it's because you normally use a '\' for a charactor you want the shell not to interprate, like a > or a space, so you have to escape the escape charactor :P
[05:08] <SlackRat> nix systems run 24/7 often for months, without having to reinstall unless you wanna clean up or upgrade, and even then
[05:08] <franklin> i dont do it as a problem solver, i do it because i have so much crap on my systems by then, they become sluggish
[05:08] <adwelin> i have it as a .deb
[05:09] <stdin> !deb | adwelin
[05:09] <ubotu> adwelin: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[05:09] <franklin> i test tons of software and after a while, the system gets crufty
[05:09] <intelikey> SlackRat mmm i thought rebooting was i windows concept, and reinstalling was a linux standard...
[05:09] <SlackRat> even then franklin, there are cleaning tools to overcome that.....matter or preference really
[05:09] <adwelin> that didn't do anything...
[05:09] <franklin> cleaning tools don't work that well
[05:10] <franklin> i want a perfect, virgin install... kinda like monk that way...
[05:10] <SlackRat> reinstalling is the recommended upgrade to a new version cause so many version upgrades are just buggy
[05:10] <flaccid_> a virgin
[05:10] <flaccid_> ubuntu has been used a bit
[05:10] <DaSkreech> !vm
[05:10] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:10] <SlackRat> but to reinstall drake over drake for example, isnt usually a necessary resort
[05:10] <DaSkreech> !cedega
[05:10] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:10] <DaSkreech> adwelin: ^^^
[05:11] <SlackRat> also running a system from a flash usb is an option ...
[05:11] <franklin> has thankfully left windows behind permanently
[05:11] <jmichaelx> this machine has been running kubuntu for over a year with no issues.... except that the newest kernel upgrade sucks with my wireless adapter now
[05:11] <InuDuelist> What's a "demux plugin"?
[05:11] <raylu> !demux
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <raylu> aww
[05:12] <`Z`> re
[05:12] <SlackRat> or google demux plugin
[05:12] <adwelin> do winex work well???
[05:13] <intelikey> google....  !   uh.     apt-cache search demux
[05:13] <franklin> speaking of google, i have a bitch with kubuntu in  particular and linux in general
[05:13] <jmichaelx> 2.6.17-10 worked well with my ralink usb wireless adapter... but -11 does not support it nearly so well
[05:13] <SlackRat> heh, franklin....which is?
[05:13] <flaccid_> InuDuelist: only the xinelib team can fix it
[05:13] <`Z`> my too, 2.6.17-10 form ubuntu, is compiled with all wireless modules
[05:13] <InuDuelist> So I'm screwed.
[05:14] <flaccid_> and it could be fixed already. what version of ubuntu, InuDuelist
[05:14] <`Z`> from
[05:14] <InuDuelist> 6.10.
[05:14] <franklin> why does every free software browser have to have Google as the default search, even in hidden options.
[05:14] <DaSkreech> franklin: Hoorah!
[05:14] <InuDuelist> What's the big deal?
[05:14] <franklin> epiphany, konq, ff, seamonkey
[05:14] <pirothezero> apt-get = the one that if installed with apt-get when you remove apt-get it removes all dependencies it installed no?
[05:14] <intelikey> franklin it's in the kde settings  not in linux per'se
[05:14] <DaSkreech> franklin: Cause most people use google?
[05:14] <SlackRat> im guessing, that whoever set it up that way is guessing its the best search engine
[05:15] <SlackRat> atm
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> franklin: cuz most people use it
[05:15] <franklin> doesn't use google
[05:15] <`Z`> pirothezero, don't remove apt-get ^^
[05:15] <InuDuelist> Good for you.
[05:15] <SlackRat> used to be yahoo, but yahoo dropped the ball years ago
[05:15] <`Z`> you will get a lot of problem with your system
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> franklin: so change the settings
[05:15] <SlackRat> what do you use franklin?
[05:15] <franklin> i use yahoo most of the time, but ask.com increasingly
[05:16] <flaccid_> InuDuelist: i've tried compiling on dapper for it
[05:16] <flaccid_> you can't
[05:16] <tjz> daskreech
[05:16] <flaccid_> need more recent version of stuff which can't be changed coz other programs depend on earlier version
[05:16] <intelikey> franklin so un-tic google and tic ask  as the default search.
[05:16] <flaccid_> this is the setup i have at work
[05:17] <InuDuelist> So how do I fix it? Reinstall?
[05:17] <franklin> hates the fact that google seems to own the internet or buys every little company. hates their 2038 cookie
[05:17] <franklin> intellikey...did that
[05:17] <DaSkreech> hey tjz
[05:17] <InuDuelist> Oh, stop complaining.
[05:17] <franklin> thanks anyway....:)
[05:17] <flaccid_> InuDuelist: you can't without lots of work. i still havnt
[05:17] <InuDuelist> It's not like they're monopolizing and using it for evil.
[05:17] <flaccid_> dapper does not support new versions
[05:17] <flaccid_> but you could recompile with dif engine support. ask in #amarok
[05:17] <tjz> daskreech  hey dude u remember where we left off?
[05:17] <franklin> google has done evil
[05:18] <franklin> as did yahoo
[05:18] <SlackRat> theres ways of dealing with cookies and junk. mwhahaha
[05:18] <DaSkreech> tjz: Nope fill me in
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> InuDuelist: not yet anyway
[05:18] <SlackRat> let he who has never done evil......etc. etc.etc
[05:18] <franklin> turning in those guys to the chinese govt
[05:18] <intelikey> franklin the internet is evil.   you should disconnect from it.
[05:18] <flaccid_> someone should backport a more recent amarok
[05:18] <SlackRat> at least google kept the US govt at bay......
[05:18] <InuDuelist> I wanna avoid reinstalling amarok, though.
[05:18] <InuDuelist> Settings, etc.
[05:19] <franklin> you really belive that, slack?
[05:19] <jmichaelx> amarok 1.4.5 is crashing on a number of kubuntu PCs at bootup
[05:19] <intelikey> franklin i'm not making light of that post.    just pointing out that you have no idea how much snooping and spying is going on online.
[05:19] <SlackRat> yup, and they have a point about the china case as well
[05:19] <franklin> publically, yes
[05:19] <franklin> intellikey, i know
[05:19] <InuDuelist> Would there be any way to save my amarok song scores and date numbers and such?
[05:19] <intelikey> SlackRat sense when ?
[05:19] <SlackRat> or how much of a record MS has in your xp of every move you make
[05:20] <SlackRat> in files you cant access
[05:20] <tjz> daskreech  umm well sofar all i got is changed universe to multiverse then we left off.
[05:20] <pirothezero> anyone know what the dev channel is?
[05:20] <franklin> i'm aware of things like echelon, wild packets/carnivore, isps snooping, etc
[05:20] <intelikey> pirothezero #ubuntu+1
[05:20] <DaSkreech> tjz: You were not to change universe to multiverse. You were to add it
[05:20] <franklin> software that phones home, etc
[05:20] <tjz> i did
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> yeah, IEs history is copied even below the hidden files level
[05:20] <tjz> i ment that
[05:20] <DaSkreech> So that it said "universe multiverse"
[05:21] <SlackRat> the lesser of two evils.....keep google presence so chinese folk can access the info, but you cave in to some authority demands....or lose china entirely behind firewalls
[05:21] <stdin> pirothezero: #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-deval , #ubuntu+1 is feisty (atm)
[05:21] <DaSkreech> tjz: Ok :0
[05:21] <tjz> daskreech  yea
[05:21] <DaSkreech> tjz: You clicked on Fetch Updates?
[05:21] <SlackRat> google is a business.....not an ethic
[05:21] <pirothezero> thx
[05:21] <DaSkreech> tjz: great. What were we installing?
[05:21] <tjz> daskreech  just did
[05:21] <tjz> daskreech  it was a program for hacking
[05:21] <stdin> pirothezero: opps, that's #kubuntu-devel not #kubuntu-deval :P
[05:22] <adwelin> i tink i will go back to windows... there no directx emulator that i can install...
[05:22] <`Z`> omfg
[05:23] <`Z`> windows :s
[05:23] <SlackRat> adwelin, dual boot
[05:23] <`Z`> +1
[05:23] <DaSkreech> tjz: Ah Kdevelop
[05:23] <adwelin> my hard-drive only have 40 go.
[05:23] <tarelerulz> I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:23] <DaSkreech> You said that you did not have a Kdevelop package?
[05:23] <tarelerulz> have any of you worked with that
[05:23] <tjz> daskreech yea i think that was it and it would  break (install)
[05:24] <`Z`> adwelin, 10 G for win, 30 G for your kubuntu ^^
[05:24] <`Z`> no ?
[05:24] <adwelin> i'm not sure...
[05:24] <`Z`> win take ~4G
 win take ~4G <<< heh  which "win"  ?
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> kubu takes even less than that
[05:24] <adwelin> i like to have place for my apps.
[05:24] <tjz> daskreech: yea
[05:25] <`Z`> win, windows :s
[05:25] <`Z`> XP
[05:25] <DaSkreech> tjz: This is kdevelop3 correct?
[05:25] <intelikey> `Z`  i see.
[05:25] <jmichaelx> give kubuntu 15Gb and you will be fine
[05:25] <tjz> daskreech: yea
[05:25] <`Z`> k
[05:25] <DaSkreech> ok Hold on
[05:25] <pirothezero> thx stdin
[05:25] <stdin> np
[05:25] <SlackRat> so does my hard drive
[05:26] <intelikey> jmichaelx the install of kubuntu requires less than 3g
[05:26] <SlackRat> give ubuntu 6-7 and youre fine
[05:26] <DaSkreech> I wonder what would happen if Adobe open sourced Photoshop
[05:26] <Adydas> 2.5 by me
[05:26] <Adydas> after updates
[05:26] <Adydas> 2.5gb that is
[05:26] <Dr_willis> heck -  im debating totally whiping out windows on this box. :)
[05:26] <jmichaelx> intelikey: i know, i was being very generous/// for files, etc
[05:26] <stdin> DaSkreech: hell would freeze over :P
[05:26] <SlackRat> yeah, but you can then add stuff, store music etc
[05:26] <DaSkreech> You gotta ask yourself
[05:26] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[05:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, hell would freeze and angels would rejoice
[05:26] <`Z`> 3,3G    .
[05:26] <DaSkreech> WWGD?
[05:27] <`Z`> for me
[05:27] <intelikey> jmichaelx ok.      give windows 200g   and kubuntu 600g    and you will be fine.
[05:27] <`Z`> with many app
[05:27] <Adydas> dam, just for install you sure?
[05:27] <intelikey> :)
[05:27] <DaSkreech> tjz: are you on Dapper?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> What would GIMP do?
[05:27] <tjz> daskreech: yea ui think
[05:27] <tjz> i*
[05:27] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: i am always keeping windows on machines because i am so sure that i will just have to have windows for something, but that times never seems to come.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: why would there be no kdevelop package?
[05:28] <tjz> daskreech: im im adept right now
[05:28] <SlackRat> lol jm
[05:28] <stdin> DaSkreech: what all good open apps do, steal everything and merge it
[05:28] <jmichaelx> i need to take windows off of all but maybe one of my PCs
[05:28] <intelikey> DaSkreech cause a repo is not enabled ?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> tjz: And if you install kdevelop in preview it says break?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, and god said let Photoshop be free, and there was much rejoicing, except among the Gimp devs, who now found themselves out of work.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  yep. last i booted to windows on this box.. it demanded i reboot 3 times or so to get all the updates installed...
[05:28] <Adydas> i have never gone back to even booting windows to finish the installation process once it was done i left and came right into setting this up and yeah
[05:28] <intelikey> DaSkreech what flavour ?
[05:28] <tjz> daskreech: let me check again
[05:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: well universe should be enabled but there is no kdevelop just a kdevelop3
[05:29] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Which signals BREAK if you try to install it
[05:29] <Adydas> hey guys, is it possible that X can load 2 diff confs based on the user trying to login
[05:29] <intelikey> what flavour ubuntu ?
[05:29] <Adydas> OR possible one can have more int he x11conf
[05:29] <SlackRat> windows updates?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> stdin: go stealing!
[05:29] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Kubuntu Dapper
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Adydas,  its possible. to have some different settings in a xorg.conf ive seen some multi-head setups that way
[05:29] <tjz> daskreech: thier are multiple things to click so highlight and right clik request install?
[05:29] <intelikey> DaSkreech i have kdevelop installed on dapper.
[05:29] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: you had obviously not booted into windows for a while lol
[05:29] <DaSkreech> tjz: No
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Adydas,  but they used 'startx SOMEoptionshere" to get them to do it.
[05:30] <Adydas> ah
[05:30] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  nope. :)
[05:30] <Adydas> currently i have commented out lines in my conf
[05:30] <intelikey> !kdevelop3 dapper
[05:30] <SlackRat> theres a reason the guys who made shrek among other pix artists use nix boxes running gimpware and not adobe or other tools
[05:30] <DaSkreech> intelikey: do you have a plain package named kdevelop ?
[05:30] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: yikes
[05:30] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[05:30] <Adydas> option "twinveiw" etc
[05:30] <Adydas> for cloneing to my tv
[05:30] <fiyawerx> hey guys, i just followed the instructions in !nvidia, but i dont see an nvidia splash screen when hitting ctr-alt-backspace
[05:30] <SlackRat> and its not because theyre foss advocates
[05:30] <fiyawerx> is there another way to tell if your drivers are working nice?
[05:30] <intelikey> DaSkreech no.   kdevelop3
[05:30] <DaSkreech> intelikey: ok
[05:30] <Adydas> fiyawerx: you edit the x11conf to nv to nvidia
[05:30] <DaSkreech> tjz: One moment
[05:30] <jmichaelx> fiyawerx:  you may need to just reboot, or you may be using the wrong nvidia driver for your card
[05:30] <tjz> daskreech: k
[05:30] <yuriy> fiyawerx: glxinfo should print out a bunch of stuff including something like opengl provided by nvidia
[05:31] <DaSkreech> intelikey: if you type kdevelop in the adept interface how many hits do you get?
[05:31] <stdin> fiyawerx: in konsole, do "glxinfo | grep direct", look for "direct rendering: Yes"
[05:31] <tarelerulz> I have windows bootble cd and I need the driver off it so I can use them for ndiswrapper
[05:31] <intelikey> 7
[05:31] <tarelerulz> What would I do
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> fiyawerx, try running glxgears. if it works, the new driver should be working
[05:31] <intelikey> but i dont use adept.
[05:31] <fiyawerx> direct rendering: Yes
[05:31] <fiyawerx> cool
[05:32] <fiyawerx> i did it with the nvidia-glx apt-get
[05:32] <intelikey> apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l
[05:32] <Adydas> best way
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Adydas,  they had serverlayout sections that allowed a single screen, or tv+screem and some other things.. done
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Adydas,  first time id ever seen it done that way. It was in some nvidia-tv-out-twinview examples i found
[05:32] <fiyawerx> and the sudo nvidia-xconfig or whatever the command was
[05:32] <fiyawerx> so.. seems to have worked, hehe
[05:32] <Adydas> Dr_willis: got the website u used?
[05:32] <fiyawerx> now to try to get some actual nice looking fonts
[05:32] <Adydas> fiyawerx:  do a reboot first
[05:32] <fiyawerx> Adydas: Ok
[05:32] <Adydas> mine worked from memory a reboot it screen load failed
[05:32] <Adydas> i forget why, but wasnt hard to fix
[05:32] <DaSkreech> tjz: how many items do you see in adept for kdevelop?
[05:32] <Adydas> in short, reboot to be 100% sure
[05:33] <Adydas> unless u hav allready
[05:33] <Dr_willis> i just googled and found the examples.. may of been on the gentoo wiki
[05:33] <intelikey> DaSkreech apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l
[05:33] <stdin> DaSkreech: http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot14uy2.jpg <- kdevelop in adept
[05:33] <Adydas> ok im stuck in my own head but what do i need to search for?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> stdin: Showoff :-P
[05:33] <Adydas> differnt users differnt x11 conf
[05:33] <Adydas> adding options to x11confs for other users
[05:33] <stdin> yep :-)
[05:33] <fiyawerx> when I do a full screen glxgears (1280x1024), i get 5628 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1125.410 FPS average
[05:34] <tjz> daskreech: 5
[05:34] <Adydas> fiyawerx:  how do you do that
[05:34] <fiyawerx> glxgears -printfps
[05:34] <DaSkreech> tjz: or type apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l  in the terminal and tell me what number it throws back
[05:34] <Adydas> i ran glxgears and its got no fullscreen
[05:34] <fiyawerx> and then maximize the window
[05:34] <fiyawerx> i jsut double clicked the title bar
[05:34] <Adydas> oh ok
[05:34] <DaSkreech> tjz: alright..
[05:34] <Adydas> im with ya
[05:34] <intelikey> Adydas if you use 'startx' it will read from ~/xorg.conf  if you have one.
[05:34] <tjz> daskreech: k one sec
[05:34] <DaSkreech> tjz: right click on just the one that says kdevelop3 and install that one
[05:35] <InuDuelist> Grr.
[05:35] <InuDuelist> Screw it.
[05:35] <InuDuelist> Maybe it is my sound card.
[05:35] <intelikey> Adydas there is also ~/.Xresources and ~/.Xsession    or is it ~/.Xsessionrc ....
[05:35] <Adydas> my problem is if i use the clone it makes my PC monitor resolution go down to match the tv ie 800x600 or so
[05:35] <tjz> there is kdevelop dev plugins doc and data
[05:35] <InuDuelist> How would I go about reverting my sound card settings to normal?
[05:35] <InuDuelist> Default*.
[05:35] <tjz> but in terminal type apt-cache search kdevelop | wc -l
[05:35] <Adydas> id like to avoid this when using the tv, or make it so i have a sererate login for tv use,
[05:36] <DaSkreech> InuDuelist: go to sound in System Settings and clicking default i would guess
[05:36] <intelikey> Adydas sounds do'able   also might consider a second xsession
[05:37] <fiyawerx> do you guys like kopete better than gaim?
[05:37] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[05:37] <DaSkreech> I hate kopete
[05:37] <InuDuelist> I lurb it.
[05:38] <smoggyCityG> hey, how would i disable the kde guidance power manager?
[05:38] <smoggyCityG> i am trying to free up some memory.
[05:38] <intelikey> kcontrol
[05:38] <Adydas> intelikey: rocking, thats what i wanted to know
[05:38] <InuDuelist> Hey intelikey: How would I revert my sound card settings to normal?
[05:38] <Adydas> if i make another user ie adydastv would that use its own options?
[05:39] <intelikey> !sound | InuDuelist
[05:39] <ubotu> InuDuelist: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Because I think I figured out the problem.
[05:39] <DaSkreech> tjz: You have a kdevelop (as well as kdevelop3) ?
[05:39] <intelikey> i think there is info on that on one of those links  ^
[05:39] <smoggyCityG> intelikey: i took kdeguidance out of the services, but it's still starting after i rebooted
[05:39] <DaSkreech> intelikey: It's not sound it's MP3 decoding in xine
[05:39] <smoggyCityG> it even thinks it's not running, but i see it in ps
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Because one of the guides I read told me to go into Amarok and change the output plugin to Alsa.
[05:40] <intelikey> DaSkreech ?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You just piped !sound to InuDuelist
[05:40] <tjz> daskreech: no
[05:40] <DaSkreech> tjz: OK right click on kdevelop3 and choose install
[05:40] <tjz> those are the options i get in adept
[05:40] <tjz> ok one sec
[05:40] <intelikey> InuDuelist yeah that's normal advice.   alsa = advanced linux sound arch.
[05:40] <InuDuelist> And apparently, changing the plugin to alsa or oss would "modify the sound device"
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Check preview to see if it says break
[05:41] <tjz> BREAK(install)
[05:41] <DaSkreech> argh
[05:41] <InuDuelist> And I wanna see if setting it back to what it was before I changed it would fix any problems.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> can you click details?
[05:42] <tjz> daskreech: yea
[05:42] <intelikey> InuDuelist is there not a button there for "default" ?
[05:42] <tjz> daskreech: there is a LONG LIST of stuff some highlighted and some not
[05:42] <DaSkreech> is anything outlined in red?
[05:42] <intelikey> where's Jucato ?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> What is highlighted?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> intelikey: gone
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Bah.
[05:43] <InuDuelist> There is.
[05:43] <stdin> DaSkreech, tjz: it may be a good idea just to try "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3" in konsole, and pastebin the output
[05:43] <InuDuelist> But it didn't help.
[05:43] <intelikey> InuDuelist :)
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Still gives me the error
[05:43] <intelikey> what's the error say ?
[05:43] <InuDuelist> Maximo. :3
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> InuDuelist, try alsamixer
[05:44] <InuDuelist> No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[05:44] <DaSkreech> stdin: Yeah I'm thinking
[05:44] <InuDuelist> file:///home/dementual/music/System of A Down - BYOB.mp3
[05:44] <InuDuelist> Just an example of one of the songs.
[05:44] <InuDuelist> It does that for every .mp3 file.
[05:44] <tjz> stdin: i get
[05:44] <tjz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:44] <tjz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:44] <stdin> tjz: that's because you have adept still open
[05:44] <tjz> daskreech no nothing in red
[05:44] <stdin> tjz: you need to close it first
[05:45] <tjz> stdin: ok one sec
[05:45] <intelikey> InuDuelist id try another player.   vlc  maybe.
[05:45] <InuDuelist> :(
[05:45] <InuDuelist> Stuff opens in VLC.
[05:45] <InuDuelist> But I'd prefer Amarok.
[05:45] <stdin> tjz: make sure you post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and post the URL here
[05:46] <fiyawerx> !fonts
[05:46] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:46] <intelikey> ok so you need a converter that works for that format.
[05:46] <InuDuelist> But it was working earlier today.
[05:46] <cpk1> InuDuelist: the other day I think some guy fixed that by uninstalling amarok and his codecs and then he just installed amarok and let amarok get the codecs for him
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> InuDuelist: you may have to copy the plugin somewhere special for Amarok
[05:46] <InuDuelist> But it was working _4 hours ago_.
[05:46] <tjz> ok i got     E:broken packages
[05:46] <InuDuelist> What could have possibly happened?
[05:46] <intelikey> then you need to undo what ever you did that made it like it is, so it will be like it was before you did IT!
[05:46] <tjz> after alot of other stuff
[05:47] <intelikey> got it.
[05:47] <stdin> tjz: post it all to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:47] <`Z`> please, have someone a source.list for dapper ?
[05:47] <InuDuelist> intelikey: You dont' understand. I DID undo what I did beforehand.
[05:47] <InuDuelist> I set the engine back to normal.
[05:47] <InuDuelist> That's all I changed.
[05:48] <InuDuelist> And it still doesn't work.
[05:48] <cpk1> did you kick it?
[05:48] <intelikey> close it reopen it.  sometimes we forget to refresh things...
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> InuDuelist, u could always try the win troubleshoot aka reboot
[05:48] <tjz> stdin postr what exactly
[05:48] <stdin> `Z`: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[05:48] <InuDuelist> I could but...
[05:48] <`Z`> thx :)_
[05:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah.
[05:48] <InuDuelist> :/.
[05:49] <cpk1> also screaming obscenities and ranting at it help
[05:49] <InuDuelist> Should I try just rebooting?
[05:49] <fiyawerx> man, even in 1280x1024, everything looks so big
[05:49] <stdin> tjz: post what the output was to that site
[05:49] <`Z`> i have already one stdin  ^^, intelikey give me :)
[05:49] <stdin> tjz: everything in konole
[05:49] <`Z`> thx intelikey
[05:49] <intelikey> InuDuelist not likely to change anything.     but you never know.
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> InuDuelist, it'll restart ur sound system
[05:49] <fiyawerx> what fonts do you guys use for things like konversation?
[05:49] <flaccid_> malayaam
[05:49] <InuDuelist> My sound system seems to work fine.
[05:49] <InuDuelist> I can listen to .wma files.
[05:49] <InuDuelist> And I can listen to .mp3 files on VLC.
[05:49] <flaccid_> um
[05:50] <flaccid_> is this the same problem InuDuelist?
[05:50] <InuDuelist> As earlier?
[05:50] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[05:50] <flaccid_> didn't i advise the situation?
[05:50] <cpk1> I really should reboot but I am so scared of that whole minute of down time
[05:50] <stdin> fiyawerx: apparently I use xft
[05:50] <InuDuelist> What'd you say, flaccid_?
[05:50] <InuDuelist> I'll tell you if it fixed
[05:50] <flaccid_> its a bug in xine-lib
[05:50] <cpk1> I think I made a kernel update and still havent rebooted...
[05:50] <InuDuelist> And what would I do?
[05:50] <flaccid_> no demux
[05:51] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You liar! You tell the truth all the time
[05:51] <flaccid_> i already answered that twice
[05:51] <tjz> stdin:ok its posted
[05:51] <flaccid_> nothing you can do
[05:51] <InuDuelist> Refresher, plz.
[05:51] <stdin> tjz: you need to post the url here
[05:51] <InuDuelist> Ah, right.
[05:51] <InuDuelist> That helped me.
[05:51] <InuDuelist> >_>
[05:51] <flaccid_> besides recompile amarok with another engine
[05:51] <InuDuelist> And then I asked how to do that, and you said "I dunno".
[05:51] <flaccid_> or you could bug the xinelib devs
[05:52] <fiyawerx> stdin: hmm i don't even have that one, this is gona be the biggest pain, getting everything looking nice
[05:52] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Missed the obvious logic loop in that statement did you?
[05:52] <raylu> How do I "Alt+Tab" out of a fullscreen app in KDE?
[05:52] <flaccid_> i don't see that in my og
[05:52] <`Z`> re
[05:52] <cpk1> i dont see why lib xine wouldnt work?
[05:52] <flaccid_> in my log
[05:52] <cpk1> i'm happily using lib-xine over here
[05:52] <DaSkreech> tjz: What is the URL at the top of the page that you posted in?
[05:52] <stdin> fiyawerx: that's just what I have by default
[05:52] <stdin> tjz: from the location/address bar
[05:52] <flaccid_> its a bug in the engine
[05:53] <tjz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7314/
[05:53] <cpk1> so why does he have it and I dont?
[05:53] <flaccid_> what files does it happen on, InuDuelist?
[05:53] <InuDuelist> Any .mp3 files. On Amarok.
[05:54] <InuDuelist> I'd try it on Kaffeine, but Kaffeine doesn't open.
[05:54] <InuDuelist> They work fine on VLC.
[05:54] <flaccid_> local mp3?
[05:54] <fiyawerx> oh
[05:54] <fiyawerx> no damn wonder why
[05:54] <fiyawerx> im only in 1024x768
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !autoconf
[05:54] <flaccid_> you get no suitable demux plugin ?
[05:54] <ubotu> autoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.60-1 (edgy), package size 429 kB, installed size 1640 kB
[05:54] <fiyawerx> on an lcd that wants 1280x
[05:54] <InuDuelist> flaccid_: What do you mean by local mp3?
[05:54] <intelikey> !autoconf dapper
[05:54] <ubotu> autoconf: automatic configure script builder. In component main, is optional. Version 2.59a-7 (dapper), package size 372 kB, installed size 1472 kB
[05:54] <flaccid_> its on the hard disk
[05:54] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[05:55] <intelikey> i'm still suspecting that there is a missing repo.
[05:55] <intelikey> probably main.
[05:55] <flaccid_> well its something worse if its all the time
[05:55] <flaccid_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337209
[05:55] <flaccid_> have you installed all the codecs?
[05:55] <InuDuelist> flaccid_: It was working ealier.
[05:55] <InuDuelist> earlier(
[05:56] <InuDuelist> earlier*
[05:56] <flaccid_> yeah well this is intermittant
[05:56] <flaccid_> but it usually occurs on mp3 streams
[05:56] <flaccid_> your behaviour is worse
[05:56] <flaccid_> basically xinelib is behind the 8ball
[05:56] <stdin> tjz: can you post the file /etc/apt/sources.list to the same site?
[05:56] <flaccid_> and dapper amarok was only compiled with xine support iirc
[05:56] <xoss> hi.. do i have to install an anti-virus for my kubuntu box?
[05:56] <intelikey> my behaviour is terrable.
[05:56] <InuDuelist> xoss: No.
[05:57] <DaSkreech> tjz: can you press alt+f2 and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then pastebin the contents of that?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> xoss: not really
[05:57] <stdin> !virus
[05:57] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:57] <intelikey> xoss why, is it sick ?
[05:57] <cpk1> does anyone know off the top of their head what 'A' means in aptitude?
[05:57] <stdin> !antivirus
[05:57] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[05:57] <xoss> hmm.. ok..
[05:57] <fiyawerx> wow, switching to a real resolution makes a big difference, haha
[05:57] <InuDuelist> I'll be back.
[05:57] <InuDuelist> I"m going to just try rebooting.
[05:57] <xoss> was just asking..
[05:57] <tjz> daskreech: in tha terminal?
[05:57] <intelikey> fiyawerx indeed.
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> xoss: another linux advantage
[05:58] <DaSkreech> tjz: Sorry?
[05:58] <fiyawerx> hmm, man i musta missed something
[05:58] <fiyawerx> now i cant run glxgears, heh
[05:58] <DaSkreech> tjz: press alt+f2
[05:58] <stdin> cpk1: probably auto installed
[05:58] <DaSkreech> tjz: then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <tjz> daskreech: do u mean can i press alt+f2 and typekdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal?
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> fiyawerx, if you open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf, do a search for nv
[05:59] <DaSkreech> tjz: No you don't need to do it in the terminal
[05:59] <DaSkreech> press alt+f2 and a box comes up
[05:59] <intelikey> box ?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> in the box type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> fiyawerx: if it comes up, change it to nvidia then restart x
[05:59] <DaSkreech> dialog whatever
[05:59] <markelhas> hi
[05:59] <stdin> tjz: or from the Kmenu, choose "Run Command", in there type: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:59] <tjz> ok
[06:00] <intelikey> i'm just razin' ya.
[06:00] <markelhas> need some help adding other disk to kubuntu
[06:00] <tjz> ok now what?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You'll see in KDE4 it'll be a glowing ball and it will cure hunger!
[06:00] <markelhas> need to write and read files to other disk, but can't see it in konker
[06:00] <markelhas> any tips?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> tjz: It opened a file right?
[06:00] <tjz> daskreech: yea
[06:01] <intelikey> other disk ?         markelhas
[06:01] <DaSkreech> tjz: ok copy and paste the contents into pastebin
[06:01] <markelhas> intelikey: my pc has 2 disk
[06:01] <markelhas> intelikey: one i've the kubuntu installed the other it's free
[06:01] <intelikey> hard(fixed) disks     i see.
[06:01] <tjz> daskreech: contents from..where?
[06:02] <intelikey> markelhas and you have made a file system on the free disk ?
[06:02] <markelhas> intelikey: but i'can read or write files to it,cause i'cant mount it
[06:02] <DaSkreech> tjz: the file that opened. paste what you see into pastebin
[06:02] <tjz> daskreech: oh ok
[06:02] <markelhas> intelikey: yes.
[06:02] <intelikey> markelhas do you know how to use  "pastebin"  ?
[06:03] <intelikey> !paste | markelhas
[06:03] <ubotu> markelhas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:03] <markelhas> intelikey: nopes
[06:03] <intelikey> go to that url ^
[06:03] <tjz> daskreech: under all that other stuff i have in paste bin already
[06:03] <stdin> markelhas: what does "sudo fdisk -l" in konsole show? (l is a lower case L)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> tjz: Doesn't matter. :)
[06:03] <intelikey> markelhas and put the output of stdin's command in the pastebin.  then bring us the returning url.
[06:04] <tjz> daskreech: oik done and pasted
[06:04] <DaSkreech> tjz: Give us the URL
[06:04] <stdin> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315/ :P
[06:04] <tjz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315/
[06:04] <markelhas> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7316/
[06:04] <fiyawerx> hm, when i click and drag a window like konqueror around, it shouldn't be jumpy, right?
[06:05] <tjz> ....
[06:05] <fiyawerx> even a terminal gets jumpy when i move it around the screen
[06:05] <DaSkreech> I knew that :-P
[06:05] <stdin> DaSkreech, tjz: everything seems to be commented out
[06:05] <stdin> DaSkreech, tjz: except for universe and multiverse
[06:05] <DaSkreech> stdin: ha ha :)
[06:05] <intelikey> markelhas  so is it  /dev/hdb5  or  /dev/sda5   that you want to mount ?
[06:05] <stdin> intelikey was right
[06:06] <markelhas> intelikey: /dev/hdb5
[06:06] <dennister> hello ppls...anyone seen geni lately?
[06:06] <markelhas> intelikey: sda is a usb disk
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> markelhas, or a sata disk
[06:06] <DaSkreech> tjz: take out the first line and delete the # in front of deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[06:06] <intelikey> markelhas ok   sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5    (assuming /media/hdb5 is a dir.)
[06:08] <tjz> daskreech:in sources.list -kate?
[06:08] <intelikey> markelhas does that give any error message ?      note: in linux 'no error, means no error'
[06:08] <DaSkreech> tjz: yes
[06:08] <tjz> daskreech: ok
[06:09] <DaSkreech> so that top line should be deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted instead of #deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[06:09] <tjz> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[06:09] <intelikey> markelhas ?
[06:09] <tjz> take that one out>?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> yup
[06:09] <markelhas> intelikey: can't write to it!
[06:09] <stdin> tjz: you want it to look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7317/
[06:09] <intelikey> markelhas that's not what i asked.
[06:09] <markelhas> intelikey: the device is mounted
[06:09] <intelikey> ok
[06:10] <intelikey> markelhas    ls -dl  /media/hdb5
[06:10] <intelikey> show me what that says.
[06:10] <esaym> So if I am dual booting and I want to boot that windows partition in linux with vmware, do I need the player or the server version?
[06:10] <stdin> markelhas: make a dir in it, as root, and chown to your user, or just chmod +w the whole thing
[06:10] <tjz> stdin in that case cant i just selsct all delete and copy paste from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7317/
[06:10] <DaSkreech> tjz: Yeah :)
[06:10] <stdin> esaym: wither the server or workstation
[06:10] <intelikey> stdin was going to let him own the drive.
[06:10] <markelhas> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-02-24 03:28 /media/hdb5
[06:11] <markelhas> missing permission
[06:11] <markelhas> i think
[06:11] <InuDuelist> Well this is awkward.
[06:11] <Mena> hi
[06:11] <intelikey> markelhas ok     sudo chown `whoami` -R /media/hdb5
[06:11] <InuDuelist> Looks like my screen just went into a nice 640x400 or whatever resolution.
[06:11] <tjz> daskreech: ok now what?
[06:11] <Mena> How to delet a file with terminal
[06:11] <stdin> intelikey: two ways to achieve the same thing :P
[06:11] <InuDuelist> And I can't increase the size.
[06:12] <InuDuelist> The resolution*.
[06:12] <InuDuelist> Any good reason?
[06:12] <tarelerulz> I have burnt copy of windows installer cd that I am trying to get drivers from
[06:12] <stdin> Mena: rm /path/to/filename
[06:12] <Dr_willis> InuDuelist,  you just now some game crashed or somthing and kept the res low?
[06:12] <tarelerulz> Is there any reason that I can't just have the cd auto load
[06:12] <Mena> stdin, ok
[06:12] <intelikey> markelhas  now you need to make an entry in the  /etc/fstab  if there is not one already.     grep /media/hdb5
[06:12] <tjz> daskreech: ?
[06:12] <InuDuelist> No.
[06:12] <Disco_Stu> Hey can anybody give me a quick hand - I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and am trying to setup ndiswrapper - went thru and found out I have to install an older version - now it says timestamp too far in the future
[06:12] <markelhas> intelikey: yap, ok. can it be set a icon on desktop?
[06:12] <esaym> stdin: does workstation = client version?
[06:12] <InuDuelist> I just restarted because xine was acting up.
[06:13] <DaSkreech> tjz: Save and type sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[06:13] <InuDuelist> Anyone have any fixes?
[06:13] <intelikey> markelhas one thing at a time.  lets make it permanant. first.
[06:13] <esaym> I'll probaby just install the server...
[06:13] <intelikey> markelhas       grep /media/hdb5 /etc/fstab
[06:13] <stdin> esaym: workstation is a single version, not client, the server version can have clients (other PCs on a network) connect to it
[06:13] <markelhas> intelikey: i've grep the fstab and nothing there
[06:14] <esaym> Is there anything better then vmware?
[06:14] <stdin> !resolution | InuDuelist
[06:14] <ubotu> InuDuelist: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:14] <esaym> Oh so sounds like workstation is the way to go...
[06:14] <tarelerulz> disco_stu what are you trying to load with ndiswrapper
[06:14] <markelhas> intelikey: i've grep the fstab and nothing there
[06:14] <Disco_Stu> trendnet 424UB wireless adapter
[06:14] <tjz> daskreech: ok tha last line says---------------deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[06:15] <DaSkreech> right
[06:15] <tjz> ok now what?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> What about it
[06:15] <stdin> you want 'deb' NOT deb-src ^^^
[06:15] <intelikey> markelhas ok.      echo '/dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 auto defaults 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[06:15] <DaSkreech> tjz does the first line say deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted ?
[06:15] <tjz> what do i do now?
[06:16] <stdin> intelikey: not setting it to auto mount?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> tjz: the first line is not commented?
[06:16] <tjz> daskreech: yep
[06:16] <intelikey> markelhas   you can right click the desktop  select add shortcut   browse to /media/hda5  and it.   select the icon you want.
[06:16] <intelikey> stdin that will automount.
[06:16] <markelhas> intelikey: ok going to try
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Ok type sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[06:16] <tjz> daskreech: nope not commented
[06:16] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, that's one way :P
[06:16] <tarelerulz> Well, I wish you luck  I have been trying to load Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:17] <tjz> daskreech: again???
[06:17] <DaSkreech> tjz: Oh :) whoops sudo apt-get install kdevelop build-essential
[06:17] <intelikey> stdin or should i say thats the default action in the fstab... "mount at boot time"
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !b-e
[06:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:17] <Disco_Stu> Okay it is doning all kinds of funky things with su mode - is there a system restore function?
[06:18] <markelhas> intelikey: ok i think it's ok, thnks
[06:18] <|InuDuelist|> K, now that was awkward.
[06:18] <stdin> DaSkreech: just thought, we could have just told him to copy /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list to /etc/apt/ :P
[06:18] <intelikey> markelhas   you should probably    cat /etc/fstab    just to see that every thing looks correct.
[06:18] <intelikey> and that's all there is to that.
[06:18] <tjz> daskreech:E: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate
[06:19] <|InuDuelist|> So, anyone have any idea how to fix this resolution problem? :(
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Bloody!!
[06:19] <markelhas> intelikey: i've already done it :P
[06:19] <DaSkreech> tjz: Oh :) whoops sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 build-essential
[06:19] <intelikey> fluxy
[06:19] <markelhas> intelikey: can i change a name of a mounted disk via usb?
[06:19] <intelikey> markelhas   cheeter.    you've played linux before.
[06:20] <tjz> daskreech: the last line still says  E: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate
[06:20] <markelhas> intelikey: yes, but i'm learning things
[06:20] <stdin> !resolution | |InuDuelist|
[06:20] <intelikey> markelhas change name...  probably but i don't play with usb ver often.
[06:20] <ubotu> |InuDuelist|: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:20] <DaSkreech> even with kdevelop3 instead of kdevelop?
[06:20] <|InuDuelist|> :D
[06:20] <tjz> yea
[06:20] <intelikey> very   even
[06:20] <esaym> stdin: where do yo uget the workstations version of vmware at?
[06:21] <markelhas> intelikey: i've the mounte pointe to "Digimate", but in desktop is det to usbdisk
[06:21] <stdin> esaym: http://www.vmware.com/
[06:21] <tjz> daskreech: yep
[06:21] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:21] <intelikey> markelhas or were you asking if you could access the fs that is "mounted via usb"  ?
[06:21] <esaym> stdin:  yea I am onthere right now,  I dont see anything about workstation versions...
[06:21] <DaSkreech> tjz: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[06:22] <intelikey> markelhas oh.    heh ok.  yeah right click on it.
[06:22] <esaym> ok i think I found something, looks like it costs moneyu
[06:22] <Jucato> DaSkreech: just kdevelop (on Edgy)
[06:22] <stdin> esaym: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/eval.html <- look harder :P
[06:22] <markelhas> intelikey: nopes, just change the label that is in desktop to watever i want
[06:22] <intelikey> name it anything you want.
[06:22] <tjz> daskreech: last line says   E: Broken packages
[06:22] <stdin> Jucato: not for dapper tho
[06:22] <esaym> stdin:  thanks
[06:22] <stdin> esaym: no problem :)
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Dapper
[06:22] <Jucato> ok.
[06:22] <intelikey> wb Jucato
[06:22] <markelhas> intelikey: lol
[06:23] <Jucato> intelikey: you were looking for me?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> o.O
[06:23] <stdin> tjz: can you post the sources.list file again, so we can check it ?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> tjz: Ok pastebin the output
[06:23] <tjz> ok
[06:23] <markelhas> intelikey: just rename, with f2, but i was trying to change in properties
[06:23] <intelikey> Jucato yeah simple where is  Q  in one of the konqueror config windows... he got it.
[06:23] <Jucato> ah ok
[06:23] <markelhas> intelikey: :P
[06:24] <fiyawerx> !wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:24] <intelikey> markelhas what is your first language ?
[06:24] <|InuDuelist|> Screw it.
[06:24] <tjz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7321/
[06:24] <markelhas> intelikey: :P not english u can be sure about that
[06:24] <|InuDuelist|> Why every single possible Linux problem hits me, I don't know.
[06:24] <|InuDuelist|> But it happens every single time.
[06:24] <|InuDuelist|> (I try using it.)
[06:24] <fiyawerx> !mp3
[06:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:25] <intelikey> |InuDuelist|     G-R-I-M-L-I-N-S
[06:25] <DaSkreech> tjz: pastebin the sources.list file
[06:25] <markelhas> intelikey: A minha primeira lingua  o portugs. (My first language is portuguese)
[06:25] <Glenn> hello.
[06:26] <intelikey> markelhas ok.
[06:26] <intelikey> !pr
[06:26] <markelhas> !pt
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:26] <intelikey> yeah pt.
[06:26] <markelhas> :)
[06:26] <fiyawerx> anyone know what would cause my dns to just stop working once in a while? only happens when im on my linux boot
[06:26] <tjz> daskreech: ahh crap my mind went blank and i hear a cricket .........so wut????
[06:26] <fiyawerx> i can go for days on win and don't notice it at all
[06:26] <markelhas> intelikey: it's very hard to get some help there :P
[06:27] <DaSkreech> tjz: The file you have open in Kate can you pastebin it again?
[06:27] <calcmandan> running 6.06.1 LTS. Installed with 1gm of ram. At initial boot, my box runs 296mb of memory. as I move along, more and more memory gets utilized even after i close the programs. is there a way I can release this memory? Right now, I'm at 646mb with only superkaramba and kopete running.
[06:27] <tjz> oi closed kate...
[06:27] <markelhas> intelikey: it's 05:27 right now :)
[06:27] <intelikey> markelhas one reason i asked, you can contribute, by helping in that channel.    another reason i asked was i could tell english is not native to you.
[06:27] <stdin> !mem | calcmandan
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <stdin> !ram | calcmandan
[06:27] <ubotu> calcmandan: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[06:27] <DaSkreech> tjz: Alt+f2 and press up
[06:27] <tjz> daskreech: how do i get back to kate?
[06:28] <tjz> ok
[06:28] <DaSkreech> tjz: ^^^^
[06:28] <stdin> calcmandan: it's normal for almost all your ram to be "in use", it's just the cache
[06:28] <fiyawerx> still wondering if anyone else has an issue dragigng windows around, too, if i even move it 2 inches, it's not a smooth move, real jumpy
[06:28] <fiyawerx> and glxgears runs great
[06:28] <intelikey> markelhas    is all working well now ?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> stdin: apparently Vista is doing that now
[06:28] <calcmandan> stdin: it's normal? how can i release the cache?
[06:28] <Jucato> stdin: try mem again :D
[06:28] <calcmandan> nm, i'll read the faq and ask again if i don't find the answer
[06:28] <intelikey> all is well,  when all is well.
[06:28] <tjz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7322/
[06:28] <stdin> calcmandan: you don't need, or want to
[06:28] <tjz> ok got it
[06:29] <stdin> !mem
[06:29] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[06:29] <markelhas> intelikey: i think so, thnks again
[06:29] <stdin> Jucato: yay :)
[06:29] <intelikey> markelhas you're welcom.
[06:29] <intelikey> welcome.
[06:29] <intelikey> my e is too stiff.
[06:29] <markelhas> intelikey: going to sleep now, see u in another life mate :)
[06:29] <intelikey> i kp typing things without  in thm
[06:30] <intelikey> markelhas good on ya then.
[06:30] <stdin> calcmandan: as the applications need more memory, the cache will be cleared and assigned to the app, you don't need to worry about it
[06:30] <DaSkreech> stdin: What's wrong?
[06:31] <calcmandan> stdin: okay, i was confused with cache'd memory and swap
[06:31] <stdin> DaSkreech: besides the fact I have no coffee in front of me. nothing, why ?
[06:31] <calcmandan> stdin: none of my swap is utilized at all.
[06:31] <flaccid_> !floppy
[06:31] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[06:31] <DaSkreech> stdin: Lookit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7322/
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Why isn't main being picked up?
[06:32] <stdin> calcmandan: non of mine is either :) swap is only used when you run out of ram and all the cache that can be cleared is
[06:32] <calcmandan> stdin: got it. thank you for your help!
[06:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ask him to change servers
[06:32] <stdin> calcmandan: no problem :)
[06:32] <stdin> DaSkreech: as far as I can see, it should be
[06:33] <Jucato> might be a US Server thing (again?)
[06:33] <stdin> try with the main servers
[06:33] <DaSkreech> tjz: listen to stdin
[06:34] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/370029   <<< mem
[06:34] <stdin> everyone should listen to stdin :)
[06:34] <Jucato> stdin: what you say? can't hear you man
[06:34] <tjz> ok what do i do?
[06:34] <stdin> heh
[06:34] <slyfox> Why cant I get maplyer to play quciktime video I have downlaoded? It plays ok via firefox, but not if I download a quick tiem video - what codecs do  I choose in mplayer to play quic time ?
[06:34] <echosyp> i followed a guide to get flash working on my amd64 box and now my sound doesn't work, anyone know how to fix that
[06:35] <slyfox> echosyp: never knew that flash works at all on 64 bit
[06:35] <echosyp> i have video
[06:35] <echosyp> but no sound
[06:35] <greywolf> good evening, denizens! :) could I request your help on a font issue I'm having with the GTK+ dependent GIMPShop?
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> echosyp: how did u get flash on AMD?
[06:35] <tjz> daskreeck how do i try it with main servers???
[06:36] <echosyp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> echosyp: chroot?
[06:36] <stdin> Jucato: my mem script I made a ling time ago, it's sooo messy http://pastebin.ca/370032
[06:36] <echosyp> follow that
[06:36] <greywolf> when I start it up from the console, all the text appears as boxes kinda like this: [] [] [] [] 
[06:36] <echosyp> what
[06:36] <fiyawerx> ok, i've always been afraid to use WINE.. let me just say.. holy wow
[06:36] <fiyawerx> just for s&g i figured i'd try to install a random prog i use in windows
[06:36] <intelikey> stdin i'll swap ya   http://pastebin.ca/370029
[06:36] <fiyawerx> and it worked, the installer and the program, right out of the box
[06:36] <echosyp> hhmm
[06:36] <stdin> tjz: just remove the "us." parts from the servers, so it looks like "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[06:36] <echosyp> i might try wine then
[06:37] <fiyawerx> i thought i'd have to worry about dlls and stuff, this is just a terminal program, but damn
[06:37] <greywolf> and the console gives this error: http://pastebin.ca/370040
[06:37] <Jucato> stdin: is that messy? you should have seen my room yesterday :D
[06:37] <greywolf> any ideas?
[06:37] <intelikey> Jucato yeah that's messy.
[06:37] <tjz> stdin:where at?
[06:37] <stdin> intelikey: nice
[06:37] <stdin> tjz: in the file you opened in kate
[06:37] <tjz> ok
[06:38] <stdin> intelikey: the output of mine looks like this http://pastebin.ca/370048
[06:38] <Adydas> where can i find what this error means
[06:38] <Adydas> Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 
[06:38] <tjz> ok and now what?
[06:39] <echosyp> so does anyone know how to fix my sound?
[06:39] <intelikey> stdin  i said i'd swap ya.    i.e. grabed yours already.
[06:39] <stdin> tjz: save it, then in konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"
[06:40] <slyfox> !w32codecs
[06:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:40] <intelikey> stdin as to the output of yours.   it's in mb  but no indicator,   looks good otherwise.
[06:40] <Adydas> is thre a unbuntu games chat room?
[06:40] <tjz> ok done
[06:41] <stdin> intelikey: feel free to modify it, it was just something to help me learn to use awk
[06:41] <DaSkreech> tjz: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 build-essential
[06:41] <intelikey> stdin that's a pretty good way to learn.
[06:42] <intelikey> stdin i learned all i know by the try it and reformat method.
[06:42] <tjz> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITZ INSTALLING
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Muwahahaha
[06:42] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, it's what I call the "fun" way :P
[06:42] <Adydas> anyone even tell me what this error could be
[06:42] <Adydas> graphics card? cpu? Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 
[06:43] <tjz> Daskreech stdin thanx!!!!!!!!!1
[06:43] <DaSkreech> tjz: Happy coding
[06:44] <stdin> :-)
[06:44] <tjz> Daskreech:umm another question
[06:44] <tjz> ...?
[06:44] <intelikey> Adydas looks like trying to insert a module class and it didn't have enough input.   "normally meaning 'wrong module' but i am exscreemly limited in that area"
[06:44] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:44] <intelikey> exscreemly i say.
[06:44] <tjz> Daskreech: ok now how do i get my flash playe 2 install so i can watch vids online?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !flash | tjz
[06:45] <ubotu> tjz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:45] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !gnash
[06:45] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[06:45] <echosyp> how do i fix my sound
[06:45] <stdin> !sound
[06:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !sound
[06:45] <intelikey> !sound
[06:45] <greywolf> Does anyone know what's going on with GIMPShop?
[06:45] <intelikey> anyone else ?
[06:45] <Adydas> intelikey: Hrm, im just trying to run unreal 2004
[06:46] <greywolf> I've googled the error, and it seems to be related to GTK+, but I don't know how exactly
[06:47] <tjz> Daskreech: ? huh
[06:47] <tarelerulz> How do you compile kernel in ubuntu
[06:47] <stdin> !compile
[06:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:47] <stdin> !b-e
[06:47] <Jucato> !kernel
[06:47] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:47] <DaSkreech> tjz: read the URLS
[06:47] <intelikey> Adydas i'm not fameliar with it.  it may have alternate modules...   check the docs ?       and again.  don't expect much out of me in that area.
[06:47] <Adydas> thats cool
[06:48] <Adydas> i might just del and give up, bit sucks for a game supported by linux
[06:48] <tarelerulz> Well, I have some  wireless card that dose not work and I thought maybe the newext kernel would have what I need
[06:48] <tjz> ok
[06:48] <Adydas> tarelerulz: have you tryed a apt-get way?
[06:48] <Adydas> might be easyer.
[06:48] <tarelerulz> would that be the newest kernel
[06:48] <Mark-C> hello. is there a way to put the mru applications in the kmenu below all applications and actions?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Mark-C: try Kickoff
[06:49] <DaSkreech> !kickoff
[06:49] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[06:49] <intelikey> newest would be at  http://kernel.org  i susspose
[06:49] <manchicken> !dpkg
[06:49] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:49] <intelikey> but newest is not always best.
[06:49] <DaSkreech> !wesnoth
[06:49] <Mark-C> DaSkreech: thanks. is it available in the repos?
[06:49] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[06:49] <intelikey> !worksforme
[06:49] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Mark-C: don't know actually I've never checked
[06:50] <manchicken> intelikey: You know the one for grabbing the dpkg lock fixer?
[06:50] <Mark-C> kthx.
[06:50] <stdin> !info kickoff
[06:50] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:50] <manchicken> Hacking adept, locked my dpkg.
[06:50] <intelikey> wesnoth has the makings of the kind of game i like but all the campains are so one dementional
[06:50] <stdin> !aptfix | manchicken
[06:50] <ubotu> manchicken: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:50] <DaSkreech> intelikey: you want multiple endings?
[06:50] <manchicken> Gracias.
[06:51] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah well more like nested mapping with verable endings.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Nested mapping?
[06:53] <draik> !beryl
[06:53] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech on the "few" occations that you have choices between maps the options are so 'non-optional'  they only add one side step and you are right back on the same course....   you know what i mean.      nested mapping would be like the first map is the world the next is a country the next is a battle field.  then back to the country.     that sort of thing.
[06:53] <tarelerulz> I donw load the newest kernel
[06:54] <tarelerulz> and I can't decompress it with tar -jxvf file.bz2
[06:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: So slightly more branches in the tree before meeting back at the root?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz,  use the right command.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> or use 'unp' :)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !unp
[06:54] <tarelerulz> What is the right one
[06:54] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:54] <intelikey> yes slightly.  as in houndreds maybe.   :)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:55] <stdin> tarelerulz: bunzip
[06:55] <Dr_willis> I forget now.. :) i use unp so much
[06:55] <stdin> or use ark
[06:55] <Dr_willis> a .bxz isent a tar file.
[06:55] <Dr_willis> bz2 not tar. :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> now why ISENT it a tar is interesting
[06:56] <intelikey> DaSkreech don't get me wrong. i know that what i have described would take a lot of man hours and imagenation.   and for a FOSS that means working for nothing....
[06:56] <stdin> Dr_willis: I'm thinking he just downloaded the patch :P
[06:56] <tarelerulz> ark is not working
[06:56] <Dr_willis> stdin,  thats what i was thinking.
[06:56] <intelikey> so i don't really expect it to happen.
[06:56] <franklin> working for nothing is always good if you're helping someone
[06:56] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I was trying to come up with a system that would facilitate that
[06:56] <DaSkreech> sort of a svn for stories
[06:57] <intelikey> yeah.
[06:57] <tjz> Daskreech:how do i access kdevelop???
[06:57] <DaSkreech> tjz: It should be in the menu under developement
[06:57] <stdin> tjz: Kmenu -> Development -> Kdevelop
[06:58] <intelikey> and some "randomness" wouldn't hurt anything.   like  'woops where did they come from?'       not total chaos mind you.
[06:58] <tarelerulz> How would I got about getting the newest kernel
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Ha I beat stdin
[06:58] <fiyawerx> !flash
[06:58] <stdin> DaSkreech: ok, that's 1 to you and 15 to me :P
[06:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:58] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah but that's a bit more for like multiplayer maps
[06:58] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:58] <SolidSource> anyone using feisty herd 4? wondering if they fixed the samba problem they had in herd 3
[06:58] <DaSkreech>  intelikey: They do have randomness in the maps I think
[06:59] <stdin> SolidSource: samba works here with XP
[06:59] <tjz> yay
[06:59] <intelikey> DaSkreech i meant sub-map level.
[06:59] <SolidSource> stdin in herd 4?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> intelikey: randomly jumping into the next map?
[06:59] <stdin> SolidSource: up-to-date feisty, so herd 4 + recent updates
[07:00] <intelikey> you know.  if you went this way before you know what to expect.   every time.    but it doesn't have to be that way.
[07:00] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm, alright, maybe I'll give it another try since that was my only problem
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i plug a card into my media reader.. and kde asks to show it in windows.. i say ok and it opens up -->  /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sdd1
[07:00] <Dr_willis> thats not exactly right. :) since it dont work or show the stuff
[07:00] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Unless they have randomly generated levels I don't see how that would be less true
[07:01] <greywolf> Could someone help me with a GIMPshop problem?
[07:01] <stdin> tarelerulz: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2 <- Latest stable kernel from kernel.org
[07:02] <intelikey> DaSkreech one way would be have mapQ  made into   mapQ1 mapQ2 mapQ3    and let $random deside which you hit this time by.
[07:02] <intelikey> but that's more coding.
[07:03] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah but unless they are weighted pretty much 4 times through you would have played all of them
[07:03] <DaSkreech> intelikey: It's actually more coding to do it the way they do it now
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Where the "random" maps you jump to are triggered by in game events
[07:04] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Course that means that unless you are pretty good (or pretty bad) you may never see some of the maps.
[07:04] <fiyawerx> !flash
[07:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech what campain is that in ?     cause all of them i see have    ' nextsenerio=blah '   in them.
[07:05] <tarelerulz> I got the newest kernel how do I decompress it
[07:05] <stdin> tarelerulz: tar xjf linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Rise of King or heir to throne.
[07:05] <intelikey> no randomness in that at all
[07:05] <raylu> DaSkreech/intelikey, what game is this?
[07:05] <intelikey> have a look at the configs.
[07:05] <DaSkreech> I think it's Heir to the throne
[07:05] <tarelerulz> It does not have tar anywhere in the file name
[07:05] <HymnToLife> tarelerulz, if you don't know how to extract a bzipped tarball, I think compiling a kernel might be a bit confusing
[07:06] <intelikey> DaSkreech nope.   have a look.
[07:06] <intelikey> raylu wesnoth.
[07:06] <DaSkreech> They have one where if you win before X turns you get a new map
[07:06] <tarelerulz> I read what I thought was the command and it did not work
[07:06] <stdin> tarelerulz: see the tar.bz2 part?
[07:06] <DaSkreech>  They have another one that says survive. However if you kill the opposing leaders you get a new map going forward
[07:07] <tarelerulz> patch-2.6.20.1.bz2 that is what I have for file
[07:07] <intelikey> DaSkreech nope i have killed the enemy and also survived.  same next map.
[07:07] <stdin> tarelerulz: that's just a patch, you can't compile that
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Hmm wonder if they changed it for 1.0
[07:07] <intelikey> you mean    2.0  ?
[07:07] <stdin> tarelerulz: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2 <- Latest stable kernel from kernel.org
[07:07] <tarelerulz> it try open it with ark
[07:07] <tarelerulz> and that does not work
[07:08] <fiyawerx> so do you guys stick with konq as your browser? or go with ff/opera?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Whichever it's been a while since I looked in that campaign
[07:08] <xoss_> what would be an excellent firewall for kubuntu 6.10??
[07:08] <stdin> !firewall | xoss_
[07:08] <ubotu> xoss_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:09] <stdin> tarelerulz: download the file I posted, then, in konsole, run the command I told you, and look at the guide too
[07:09] <intelikey> DaSkreech one thing that perturbs me about it also is the level 3 limit on advancement   but then you have all these npc level 4/5 chars...   if an npc can make level 5 then the player should be able to.
[07:09] <stdin> fiyawerx: firefox is (imho) a better web browser than konq
[07:10] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah I keep trying to figure out if there is a way around it
[07:10] <tarelerulz> when I got to that link
[07:10] <tarelerulz> it try to open with ark and ark does not work
[07:10] <azzco> Okay so I was trying to edit grub and ended up having to boot from a CD. Anyone got some spare time to help?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> intelikey: have you had a lvl 3 char reach 75 exp? What happens then?
[07:10] <fiyawerx> stdin: nod.. been getting used to opera lately at work over firefox, kinda nice too
[07:10] <tarelerulz> then I cut plas into Konqueror and it downloaded
[07:10] <intelikey> DaSkreech sure there is. make new char levels.     i can advance to level seven on most chars. now.
[07:10] <tarelerulz> just don't know where it is
[07:10] <stdin> tarelerulz: right click it and save it, or copy the link and use "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2"
[07:11] <intelikey> DaSkreech with the default chars  when you exp+ max  at level 3 you add 3 hp
[07:11] <DaSkreech> ah
[07:11] <tarelerulz> don't have that option
[07:12] <Jucato> !offtopic
[07:12] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:12] <stdin> fiyawerx: firefox is nice, haven't used opera in years so I don't know, but ff does the job I want it to do, and the extentions are nice too :)
[07:12] <DaSkreech> I was waiting for that
[07:12] <stdin> tarelerulz: then just wget it
[07:12] <intelikey> Jucato you were a few seconds early.
[07:13] <franklin> i have a feeling that FF is heading for trouble
[07:13] <DaSkreech> !ot
[07:13] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:13] <Jucato> actually, I'm a few minutes late
[07:13] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:13] <franklin> it's becoming too popular, and people are going to start writing exploits for it
[07:13] <Jucato> the !ot goes for the game discussion and the firefox vs. konqueror vs. opera thing :)
[07:13] <DonMCN> Hi guys. Can you help me get rid of Xfce? I have tried sudo apt-get remove xfce and sudo apt-get remove Xfce and both do not work.
[07:13] <Jucato> DonMCN: how did you install it?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> DonMCN: Bet there is some gtk lib that will kill it all
[07:13] <fiyawerx> can always try using debfoster
[07:14] <Jucato> DonMCN: I think the package name is xfce4
[07:14] <DonMCN> I believe it was with sudo apt-get install xfce but I cannot remember. I know it was in Konsole.
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> DonMCN, try killing it through synaptic
[07:14] <stdin> or adept ^^
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> either or
[07:15] <franklin> used to install windowmake first off years ago, but it didn't play well with KDE
[07:15] <stdin> adept is installed by default (kubuntu)
[07:15] <franklin> er, windowmaker
[07:15] <tarelerulz> I copy that link and it has the file
[07:15] <tarelerulz> in Konqueror and I can see it
[07:15] <tarelerulz> don't know what to do with it
[07:15] <stdin> tarelerulz: it's called linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2 ?
[07:16] <DonMCN> What is Synaptic?
[07:16] <intelikey> !Synaptic
[07:16] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:16] <tarelerulz> I think it is
[07:16] <intelikey> !adept
[07:16] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:16] <stdin> tarelerulz: open konsole, cd to the dir you saved it, and type "tar xjf linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2"
[07:16] <tarelerulz> I took the link
[07:16] <tarelerulz> That it  I don't know where I saved it
[07:16] <franklin> ubotu is somwhat annoying
[07:16] <tarelerulz> I right click on the link you gave me
[07:17] <tarelerulz> did not give me the option to copy it nor save it somewhere
[07:17] <stdin> tarelerulz: you said you see it in konq ?
[07:17] <tarelerulz> yes
[07:17] <tarelerulz> I think it is extracting it
[07:17] <intelikey> tarelerulz find ~/ -iname linux-2*
[07:17] <tarelerulz> to me home directory
[07:18] <stdin> tarelerulz: it may have opened in the ark plugin
[07:18] <intelikey> ignore    i'm too late.
[07:18] <azzco> I am on a Live CD and trying to edit files on my harddrive. however I can not mount and cd into the HD does not work either
[07:18] <tarelerulz> when I have run ark in terminal or from the menu it did not work
[07:18] <DaSkreech> azzco: did you mount the hard drive?
[07:19] <azzco> I was trying to but it did not work
[07:19] <stdin> tarelerulz: how did you try and open it in konq?
[07:19] <intelikey> azzco    sudo mount /dev/hd?# /media
[07:19] <tarelerulz> it showed the file
[07:20] <intelikey> translate ?  and #
[07:20] <tarelerulz> I right clicked on the main file
[07:20] <tarelerulz> the extract showed up
[07:20] <elmer> Hi, All. I have Kubuntu 6-10 on an Acer lappy. Something is accessing the hard drive every 5 seconds. The drive auto-parks at 4 seconds, so the drive parks and unparks all day long, making an annoying clicking sound. Googling yeilds others with similar problem, but no solution. Any ideas?
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> tarelerulz, if you're trying to install a new kernel, heres a great link to a howto http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu?s=07bb8c5384f9e761a5395c6f0ecbda4d&
[07:20] <azzco> Oh sorry intelikeymust have got the command wrong before thanks :)
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> tarelerulz, its what i used for mine
[07:21] <fignew> elmer: try running lm-profiler from the terminal
[07:22] <fignew> elmer: you may also want to look into enabling laptop-mode when you get this access problem resolved
[07:22] <stdin> tarelerulz: just close konq, open konsole and type "wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2"
[07:22] <intelikey> elmer linux is notorious for that.   it's in the sync settings.    i don't remember exactly how to change it though.      .....
[07:22] <fignew> laptop-mode: minimizes how often HD is written to
[07:23] <tarelerulz> downloading the file
[07:23] <tarelerulz> how do e I know where it is saved
[07:23] <stdin> tarelerulz: it will be saved in your home dir
[07:23] <tarelerulz> thanks for what your doing
[07:24] <tarelerulz> I am really lost today everything seems to not be working
[07:24] <intelikey> hdparm  may be what you want elmer
[07:24] <elmer> fignew: thank you. That gives me a direction
[07:24] <fignew> what program was it?
[07:25] <fignew> intelikey: ubuntu defaults should be pretty sane, this seems to be the fault of an errant program
[07:25] <dope> how would i reinstall mysql on a ubuntu server edition setup?
[07:26] <dope> anyones
[07:26] <tarelerulz> I see it
[07:26] <fignew> dope: do you want to delete all the config files
[07:26] <fignew> and start with a fresh install?
[07:26] <dope> i forgot my password to mysql
[07:27] <dope> so i can't get into it
[07:27] <HymnToLife> you can reset it without reinstalling everythinf
[07:27] <HymnToLife> everything*
[07:27] <dope> i was trying but had no luck
[07:27] <fignew> dope: do you care about losing your data?
[07:27] <HymnToLife> the mysql manual explains how to do
[07:27] <dope> i was trying to follow it but no dice
[07:28] <fignew> HymnToLife: yea, prob. involves using root
[07:28] <dope> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[07:28] <HymnToLife> do you have root access to the system
[07:28] <HymnToLife> ?*
[07:28] <dope> yea
[07:29] <stdin> tarelerulz: have you extracted it yet?
[07:29] <fignew> dope: try: sudo mysql -u root         then UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('newpwd')
[07:29] <fignew> WHERE User='root';
[07:29] <fignew> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[07:29] <dope> i can't get in with root
[07:30] <fignew> dope: have you tried under sudo?
[07:30] <HymnToLife> dope, what's wront ? Create the txt as it said then run mysql with the given parameters
[07:30] <HymnToLife> wrong ?
[07:30] <tarelerulz> I have it extracted
[07:30] <elmer> intelikey: I tried the various hdparm commands suggested for power-management, but no effect
[07:30] <dope> i did
[07:31] <fignew> elmer: enable laptop-mode :)
[07:31] <dope> doesn't seem to be taking what i put in it
[07:31] <dope> i dunno
[07:31] <fignew> it does all the hdparm stuff for you
[07:31] <fignew> I can tell you how if you want ;)
[07:32] <elmer> fignew: yes please. :)
[07:32] <n4cht> heh.  installing america's army out of boredom.
[07:32] <dope> using the init file doesn't change my pw
[07:33] <fignew> elmer: 1 sec
[07:33] <fignew> n4cht: try savage :)
[07:33] <stdin> tarelerulz: first do "sudo apt-get install kernel-package libncurses5-dev fakeroot wget bzip2 build-essential"
[07:33] <n4cht> fignew: installed it, but it failed to run.  it was whining about libtiff.
[07:33] <stdin> tarelerulz: then follow this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu_p2?s=cdf4fac51748c76f3377039842900a77&
[07:34] <dope> so anyway how do i reinstall mysql
[07:34] <DonMCN> Ok guys another question. I went on Adept Manager, and I searched for Xfce, and everything that was listed, I uninstalled and it took Xfce off Kubuntu perfectly. The only problem I have left is that when I installed Xfce it put on a bunch of other things on with it, and I need to remove them now, but Add/Remove Programs does not list them. Can you help me?
[07:34] <dope> so that it'll work properly with the lamp setup
[07:34] <stdin> tarelerulz: it's going to take a few hours to setup and compile it, so make sure you have the time
[07:34] <fignew> elmer: edit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[07:35] <tarelerulz> I don't have hour today
[07:35] <tarelerulz> ,but I am getting net soon
[07:35] <tarelerulz> so I wil back for sure
[07:35] <dope> how do i reinstall mysql on ubuntu server edition
[07:35] <tarelerulz> I want my wireless  card to work so bad I can tast it
[07:35] <fignew> elmer: then edit it around line 55
[07:35] <stdin> tarelerulz: hours not hour, it takes ages once it starts :P
[07:35] <tarelerulz> Ok I see
[07:35] <fignew> n4cht: did you try installing the libtiff packages from apt?
[07:36] <tarelerulz> either way I don't have it
[07:36] <n4cht> fignew: yep.  and the dev packages too.
[07:36] <tarelerulz> Has ubunt had an problem with it packet installer
[07:36] <tarelerulz> I have had some problems with it today
[07:36] <fignew> I managed to get it to work, if you could send me the error, I can help :)
[07:36] <tarelerulz> stuff not working
[07:36] <tarelerulz> fire fox  then installed ark did not work
[07:37] <stdin> dope: apt-get --reinstall install mysql-server (if that's the package), or you can "apt-get --purge remove" it first, then just install it again to reset the config
[07:37] <Pupeno> Is there some command that would output the date in iso format?
[07:37] <n4cht> crap.  now i can't remember what the command is to start savage.  i thought it was just 'savage'... but that didn't do it.
[07:37] <stdin> tarelerulz: not that I know of
[07:37] <fignew> n4cht: try capital Savage
[07:38] <n4cht> no good.
[07:38] <n4cht> meh.
[07:38] <fignew> where is it installed?
[07:38] <DonMCN> How do I get into the K Menu editor from Konsole?
[07:38] <stdin> Pupeno: look at "man date" (or man:/date in konqueror)
[07:38] <n4cht> i didn't like savage all that much when i played it on windows.
[07:38] <dope> i found it the pw
[07:38] <fignew> n4cht: really? hmm, I love it
[07:38] <stdin> DonMCN: kmenuedit
[07:38] <dope> so thx anyways stdin
[07:38] <stdin> dope: :)
[07:38] <DonMCN> Thank you
[07:38] <tarelerulz> is there anything like limewire in the repository ?
[07:38] <elmer> fignew: changed ...ON_AC_POWER to 1. I assume I need to restart something?
[07:38] <Pupeno> stdin: I've already read man's date and I know I can write down the format, but that's too much work for every time I need the date.
[07:39] <stdin> Pupeno: so make an alias
[07:39] <fignew> ok elmer: run sudo laptop_mode enable
[07:39] <fignew> it should say: Laptop mode disabled, active.
[07:39] <stdin> Pupeno: or a small script, and pit it in ~/bin/
[07:39] <Pupeno> stdin: if I wanted a DIY solution I would have already done. Thank you though.
[07:40] <elmer> fignew: it responds "Laptop mode disabled, active"
[07:40] <fignew> Pupeno: 1 sec
[07:40] <fignew> elmer
[07:40] <fignew> ok
[07:40] <fignew> see if it's still clicking
[07:41] <intelikey> Pupeno if you don't want a "DIY" why linux ?
[07:41] <elmer> fignew: YEA!!! no clicking!
[07:41] <elmer> thanks so much!
[07:41] <fignew> sweet
[07:41] <fignew> 1 more step
[07:42] <fignew> Pupeno: date --help
[07:42] <fignew> will give you the info for ISO formatting
[07:42] <stdin> fignew: [06:38]  <Pupeno> stdin: I've already read man's date and I know I can write down the format, but that's too much work for every time I need the date.
[07:44] <fignew> you can setup an alias
[07:44] <fignew> or write a 2line bash script
[07:44] <fignew> elmer: touch /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled
[07:44] <intelikey> fignew <Pupeno> stdin: if I wanted a DIY solution I would have already done. Thank you though.
[07:44] <fignew> not exactly DIY
[07:45] <elmer> fignew: done
[07:45] <stdin> fignew: I already said about the alias and a script, ^^ that was the responce
[07:45] <intelikey> writing an alias is no different than writing a script   that was his reply to that.
[07:45] <fignew> elmer: now run sudo laptop_mode enable
[07:45] <DonMCN> How can I set my default browser to Firefox in Konsole?
[07:46] <raylu> DonMCN, does it have to be in Konsole?
[07:46] <DonMCN> Or the other easiest way, but going into Firefox settings and setting it there doesn't work.
[07:46] <stdin> DonMCN: (system wide) sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[07:46] <fignew> elmer: it should say Laptop mode enabled, active.
[07:46] <elmer> fignew: yes!
[07:47] <stdin> DonMCN: for the user, System Settings -> Default Applications
[07:47] <stuart_> does anybody use enlighten,ent?
[07:47] <stuart_> enlightenment
[07:47] <fignew> elmer: ok, you can do this later, but make sure it's still enabled after a reboot :)
[07:47] <DonMCN> Thank you all
[07:47] <stdin> when I'm not in KDE or a shell, I use enlightenment
[07:48] <fignew> elmer: I had problems with it turning itself back off by removing the /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled
[07:48] <fignew> when I rebooted (not sure if it was me though :))
[07:48] <elmer> fignew: thank you! I can feel my sanity slowly returning...
[07:48] <stuart_> stdin - is there a way to iconify all windows?
[07:48] <fignew> yea, you can tweak the laptop mode settings, but there's a few things you should know about it
[07:49] <intelikey> fignew /var/run   is in ram.   hard to make things sticky there.   use an init script to add it at boot time.
[07:49] <Jucato> stuart_: Ctrl+Alt+D ?
[07:49] <elmer> fignew: ok, i'll watch that
[07:49] <fignew> lol
[07:49] <fignew> that would explain it ;)
[07:50] <elmer> intelikey: thank you
[07:50] <intelikey> fignew ffr   cat /proc/mounts     to see what all is actuall in ram.
[07:50] <intelikey> actually
[07:50] <stdin> or just type "mount"
[07:51] <stuart_> Jucato - that doesn't work for me -- i can use ctrl alt i to do 1 window at a time though...
[07:51] <fignew> yes :)
[07:51] <intelikey> stdin not always the same.
[07:51] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but it "normally" is
[07:51] <Jucato> stuart_: Ctrl + Alt + D (show Dekstop aka minimize all windows)
[07:51] <intelikey> stdin not in *buntu
[07:51] <fignew> elmer: just add the line touch /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled
[07:51] <Jucato> stuart_: you can set it in Sysetm Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts, look for Toggle Show Desktop
[07:52] <elmer> k
[07:52] <fignew> to the top of the /etc/init.d/laptop-mode
[07:52] <fignew> after the #! /bin/bash line
[07:52] <elmer> k
[07:52] <stuart_> Jucato - do you mean KDE system settings?
[07:52] <fignew> ermm #! /bin/sh
[07:52] <Jucato> stuart_: yes
[07:53] <elmer> :)
[07:53] <stuart_> Jucato ok thanks what do you think of enlightenment
[07:53] <intelikey> echo "#!/bin/sh"   :)
[07:53] <fignew> how do you show the current runlevel?
[07:53] <Jucato> stuart_: it's really nice. eye candy + usable. but I still look for KDE/Kwin stuff when I'm on e17...
[07:54] <intelikey> runlevel
[07:54] <stdin> fignew: ^
[07:54] <intelikey> if you need specific.    runlevel | cut -b3-
[07:55] <fignew> elmer: forget what I said
[07:55] <fignew> do ln -s /etc/init.d/laptop-mode /etc/rc2.d/laptop-mode
[07:55] <stuart_> Jucato; yeah having spent about 15 mins - it's a bit of a relearn - tho the effects are nice. Might stick with plane old KDE interface ...
[07:55] <stuart_> woops plain
[07:55] <fignew> sudo ln -s*
[07:55] <intelikey> hmmm odd.  tty24 [root@~]  runlevel
[07:55] <intelikey> unknown
[07:55] <fignew> actually, I'm wrong again
[07:56] <fignew> do ln -s /etc/init.d/laptop-mode /etc/rc2.d/S20laptop-mode
[07:56] <intelikey> i wonder why my runlevel is not set ?
[07:56] <Dr_willis> odd
[07:56] <intelikey> yeah
[07:56] <Dr_willis> my runlevel says n2
[07:56] <intelikey> doesn't matter i know it's 6   but it seems odd that it's not set.
[07:57] <stuart_> jucato 1 other thing: where are the settings to make enlarge the menu font? (winter them is too small)
[07:57] <Dr_willis> 6? isent that the reset level?
[07:57] <intelikey> not here  :)
[07:57] <Dr_willis> reboot i mean. or shutdown or somthing
[07:57] <Dr_willis> You SICK puppy!
[07:57] <stdin> yeah 6 is reboot
[07:57] <intelikey> not here  :)
[07:57] <Dr_willis> Heh - ive noticed with this pc.. if i 'shutdown' the pc powers off.. .then about 5 sec later powers back up and boots up...
[07:58] <Jucato> stuart_: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts ?
[07:58] <smoggyCityG> hey guys, how would i stop my laptop from suspending whenever i close the lid?  (it crashes)
[07:58] <fignew> Dr_willis: it doesn't want to leave you!
[07:58] <fignew> smoggyCityG: have you checked the bios?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> fignew,  yea.. just seems to be an issue with some distros.. oddly
[07:58] <Dr_willis> night all
[07:58] <Dr_willis> halt
[07:58] <fignew> night
[07:58] <Dr_willis> oops. :)
[07:58] <penguinfan> hi, is there a guide how to migrate a debian server to an ubuntu server?
[07:58] <stdin> cya Dr_willis
[07:58] <stuart_> Jucato - ok there are just so many menus/options already in the Enlightenment menu system I didn't think to try that
[07:59] <smoggyCityG> smoggyCityG: no.  i see a message in the dmesg saying "apm overridden by acpi" so i figured it's an ACPI setting.  i don't know where to find those though.
[07:59] <fignew> penguinfan: install ubuntu :)
[07:59] <Jucato> stuart_: oh dunno about e17 sorry
[07:59] <fignew> elmer: you there?
[07:59] <intelikey> Dr_willis i have manual switches.   (at power supply)  all i can get is a reboot or a final screen full of garbage that lasts until you kill the power or hit the "reset" button.
[07:59] <penguinfan> fignew: on a remore machine? it is a vserver which has debian installed
[07:59] <intelikey> slipped out on me didn't he.
[07:59] <fignew> penguinfan: tell the admins to install ubuntu
[08:00] <DonMCN> I have a question, does K3b burn .nrg files? They are the same thing as .iso, except they are in Nero format.
[08:00] <elmer> fignew: ok. i'm rather a noob, so I'm getting a little dizzy :)
[08:00] <cpk1> it might not since it is proprietary
[08:00] <fignew> elmer: ok, well as long as you did ln -s /etc/init.d/laptop-mode /etc/rc2.d/S20laptop-mode
[08:00] <fignew> you're golden!
[08:01] <penguinfan> fignew: they wont change there whole system for me. and i doubt they will provide a image for each flavour of linux
[08:01] <HymnToLife> DonMCN, it's a different format, so it's not "the same"
[08:01] <stdin> fignew: don't forget sudo
[08:01] <cpk1> DonMCN: but there is a nrg2iso app you can get
[08:01] <dope> where is my php executable
[08:01] <fignew> sudo voodoo!
[08:01] <DonMCN> Oh well please, tell me where to get this app.
[08:01] <dope> where is php installed to?
[08:01] <HymnToLife> !info nrg2iso
[08:01] <ubotu> nrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:01] <intelikey> nero format ?    .iso  is just a copy of the cd itself     so how can it be "just like iso except in nero format" ?
[08:02] <DonMCN> .nrg is a Nero CD image file
[08:02] <cpk1> speaking of k3b, whenever I burn something with it I can never check the data because it cant access the dvd after ejecting and remounting
[08:02] <fignew> elmer: with laptop mode you have to be careful though... if you save something it may not be written to the HD for 10 minutes (max) (I think that's the default)
[08:02] <fignew> and if you loose power, you've lost what you saved
[08:03] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/file.iso   exact copy.  that's iso format if i understand it.
[08:03] <dope> where's php installed to!?@$
[08:03] <fignew> dope: which php
[08:03] <elmer> fignew: sudo ln -s... succeeded w/o err
[08:03] <fignew> that's a command
[08:04] <fignew> ok elmer
[08:04] <dope> php5
[08:04] <DonMCN> Alright I just did command in Konsole: sudo apt-get install nrg2iso and it downloaded and installed it. It's not listed under KMenu, so I am guessing that I can use it directly on the .nrg file?
[08:04] <intelikey> no   "which php"
[08:04] <dope> fignew: i wanna find where php so i can run executable php scripts
[08:04] <stdin> intelikey: well, it's called iso, tho id it's a udf filesystem the image will be in udf format
[08:04] <fignew> dope: run which php5
[08:04] <dope> ?
[08:05] <fignew> elmer: also, if the hard drive is spun down, and you access it, you'll experience a .5 second delay :)
[08:05] <intelikey> stdin yeah.   i was 'assuming'  /dev/cdrom would be a "cdrom" disk.
[08:05] <fignew> but you are saving power
[08:05] <fignew> dope: it's a command: run it in the shell
[08:05] <stdin> DonMCN: It's probably a cli app, man nrg2iso
[08:05] <fignew> "which php5"
[08:06] <elmer> fignew: so, I can forget the touching and init editing? laptop mode should stick now?
[08:06] <cpk1> DonMCN: you probably need to do nrg2iso nameofnrg nameofoutput
[08:06] <stdin> intelikey: it's usually a symlink to the cd/dvd device, and you can get a udf filesystem in a "cdrom" disk too
[08:06] <fignew> elmer: yes
[08:07] <fignew> elmer: you can test by running sudo laptop_mode status
[08:07] <intelikey> stdin don't be difficult.
[08:07] <cpk1> lol
[08:07] <stdin> intelikey: heh, sorry :P
[08:07] <elmer> fignew: (spindown) yes, I believe I can use hdparm to delay spindown some
[08:08] <Karoat> Anyone know of a simple (ie: not Kicker) panel written for QT?
[08:08] <fignew> elmer: well, if you want to change that option, you can do so in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf :)
[08:08] <elmer> fignew: cool
[08:11] <fignew> ohh well, I'm out, gonna play some Savage, then go to bed around 5 :)
[08:11] <intelikey> ok i'm over pouting now.    stdin.  point was not really about the fs type  but the fact that it was simply a copy of the disk.   as opposed to nero format disk images.     and feel free to instruct me.    :S
[08:13] <dope> where is php installed to
[08:13] <fignew> lol, the command "which" will tell you
[08:13] <intelikey> dope not on this box.    what is the real question?
[08:13] <stdin> intelikey: I just tend to call them images or "raw images", it just slightly annoying when people use a format to describe a type, like calling all digital audio "mp3s". you know?
[08:14] <fignew> I suppose it's /usr/bin/php5
[08:14] <fignew> that's only a guess though
[08:14] <dope> which doesn't show anything
[08:15] <intelikey> stdin k,  and yes misnomers are my speciality
[08:15] <intelikey> errrr no they arent.
[08:15] <intelikey> typos and misspelling are.
[08:15] <stdin> spellcheck is a godsend, but I still make typos
[08:16] <intelikey> dope what is the real question ?
[08:16] <dope> i have an executable php script but i can't execute it because i can't just call "php myscript.php" and have it run
[08:17] <stdin> dope: what package did you install? if you know the name, you can do "dpkg --listfile PackageName" to see what it installed, so if the package is called "php5" it would be "dpkg --listfiles php5"
[08:17] <dope> it was install with ubuntu server edition
[08:17] <intelikey> dope i think you can.    php5 yourscript.php
[08:18] <intelikey> use tab completion
[08:18] <dope> command not found
[08:18] <intelikey> use tab completion
[08:18] <intelikey> you know what the [tab]  key looks like.
[08:19] <intelikey> php[tab] [tab] 
[08:19] <dope> ok got it
[08:20] <stdin> php5-cgi ?
[08:20] <intelikey> php-pear
[08:21] <intelikey> php5 php5-cgi php5-cli php5-xsl
[08:21] <intelikey> pick your take.
[08:21] <stdin> take your pick
[08:21] <intelikey> no no   after you
[08:21] <intelikey> :)
[08:23] <fignew> intelikey: don't forget mod_php :)
[08:23] <intelikey> fignew lot of things i didn't list.    the list is long.    apt-cache search php
[08:24] <stdin> !find php
[08:24] <ubotu> Found: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 198 others)
[08:24] <stdin> (and 198 others) :P
[08:24] <intelikey>  q php | wc -l
[08:24] <intelikey> 407
[08:25] <intelikey> some depend on php thought.
[08:25] <intelikey> though
[08:25] <stdin> apt-cache search php|wc -l
[08:25] <stdin> 492
[08:25] <intelikey> different release.
[08:25] <fiyawerx> hey guys.. just installed flashplayer-nonfree, but don't seem to be getting any sound, anyone familiar with that?
[08:26] <fignew> fiyawerx: in firfox?
[08:26] <fiyawerx> sorry flashplugin
[08:26] <intelikey> stdin that what  'q' is an alias for   apt-cache search
[08:26] <fiyawerx> using opera
[08:26] <fiyawerx> konq doesn't even bring up the flash
[08:26] <fiyawerx> (trying google video for fast tests)
[08:26] <sturts> what it is guys...
[08:26] <intelikey> sturts dat.
[08:26] <fignew> fiyawerx: konq will bring it up (you just have to go into options and scan for plugins)
[08:26] <sturts> dat?
[08:27] <intelikey> dat's what it is.
[08:27] <sturts> ah yes, sorry I'm a bit too white..
[08:27] <stdin> fiyawerx: looked at the troubleshooting part of the flash help page? http://tinyurl.com/2yrzxo
[08:27] <sturts> hows everyone doing this...?
[08:28] <fignew> morning?
[08:28] <intelikey> hour
[08:28] <fiyawerx> oh, haha, im dumb
[08:28] <fiyawerx> forgot that in buntu it doesnt recognize my front line out jacks on my media center
[08:28] <sturts> thats why I left it open...  its evening somewhere...
[08:29] <fignew> fiyawerx: if you felt like it you could configure it to detect them
[08:29] <fignew> I wouldn't be the person to goto however
[08:30] <intelikey> hour is pretty generic in that context sturts
[08:31] <intelikey> we are all in the same hour.  no matter what the clock on the wall says.
[08:31] <pirothezero> time is overrated
[08:31] <stdin> time is all relative anyway
[08:32] <intelikey> i didn't know it had so many kin...
[08:33] <flake> <==  fresh install of ubuntu 6.10 i386
[08:33] <intelikey> stdin if you really beleave that, just backup a little and prove it.
[08:34] <stdin> intelikey: it's already been prooven
[08:34] <flake> A little FYI for some of you with hardware problems and laggy games:  after numerous overheating issues, random crashes and reboots, I opened my case and removed the fan - dust caked up the heatsink fins.  I used a brush and a vaccuum to remove it, now it is running smooth.
[08:35] <DonMCN> Can somebody help me getting my Conexant 56k Modem working?
[08:36] <stdin> !modem
[08:36] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:36] <fiyawerx> !java
[08:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:38] <flake> is edgy 6.10 latest stable?
[08:38] <intelikey> yeah
[08:38] <flake> cool
[08:39] <intelikey> if you call it stable.... it is the latest release
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> conextant dial up models are such a heap of crap (they are actually winmodems or as some would call them "software modems)
[08:40] <stdin> my favourite term for them is "dumb modems"
[08:40] <pirothezero> anyone have a hotswap sata array going?
[08:40] <flake> so far besides user error, install and upgrade on this distro is smooth
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> flake: its a live CD so you can try it before you do the install
[08:44] <flake> brb, bringing up kde
[08:48] <pirothezero> if your system halts, mouse stops, music stops, you cant do anything is there something one can do?
[08:49] <profun> hi all
[08:50] <profun> anyone know why kaffeine plays too slow videos?
[08:50] <stdin> pirothezero: press the power button
[08:51] <pirothezero> and if it happens like 3-4 times a day?
[08:51] <pirothezero> then i got a problem lol
[08:51] <intelikey> pirothezero   alt+SysRQ+E  some times.
[08:51] <profun> hi all
[08:51] <flake> ack - what happened to the screensavers - was working w/ hardware accel in gnome, after kde install, the screensaver preview windows are all black
[08:52] <profun> anyone know why kaffeine plays video files too slow
[08:52] <profun> srry for my bad english
[08:52] <pirothezero> whats sysrq?
[08:52] <stdin> pirothezero: look at the print screen button
[08:53] <pirothezero> wow never noticed that
[08:53] <stdin> some people don't know where the break key is
[08:54] <stdin> or the ` key for that matter
[08:54] <dsmith_> beryl compatible with a nvidia FX5200?
[08:55] <profun> anyone know why kaffeine plays video files too slow
[08:56] <Mena> Is there a program bestthan Wine
[08:56] <stdin> dsmith_: beryl is compatible with any hardware accelerated system
[08:57] <stdin> Mena: wine is one of a kind, it's not an emulator, it's a compatibility layer (Wine Is Not an Emulator)
[08:57] <Mena> stdin, ok
[08:58] <Adydas> Mena: games?
[08:59] <Mena> yes
[08:59] <stdin> Mena: if you want something that will work with just about any windows app, you need something like VMware, qemu or VirtualBox
[08:59] <cpk1> i suppose people might think cedega is better but you need to pay for it and it is basically the same as wine
[08:59] <Adydas> see cedega mena
[08:59] <Adydas> wine = fine
[09:00] <Mena> Adydas, the problem i couldnt use it right as i gues i must use games wich is that in the list of the cedega
[09:00] <dsmith_> stdin: how does one change the settings, without loading berl?
[09:00] <Adydas> i tryed it tonight with warcraft3 fine.
[09:00] <sturts> please someone stimulate my mind #linux is gay
[09:00] <Mena> Adyda, okay i will see that again
[09:01] <stdin> dsmith_: run beryl-settings
[09:01] <dsmith_> its wrecking my display
[09:01] <dsmith_> ok
[09:01] <Adydas> wine install.exe and it worked good as
[09:01] <dsmith_> stdin: the settings manager?
[09:02] <stdin> dsmith_: beryl-settings is the app for the beryl settings manager
[09:02] <dsmith_> ok
[09:02] <dsmith_> :)
[09:02] <stdin> Alt-F2, beryl-settings
[09:03] <Skuller> guys if something has a gold rating with wine.....how hard is it to get that thing running on kubuntu?
[09:03] <dsmith_> Skuller: which app?
[09:04] <stdin> Skuller: you have to look at the version it has the gold rating for
[09:04] <dsmith_> hmmm
[09:04] <Adydas> i wanna play UT2004
[09:04] <dsmith_> SKuller: I have been able to play HL1 & HL2
[09:04] <Skuller> stdin: what do u mean?
[09:04] <stdin> Adydas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament2004
[09:04] <Skuller> dsmith_: ohh...yea but i was more into ut
[09:04] <Skuller> Adydas: and ya ut2003 n above are native on linux too
[09:05] <dsmith_> ok... well thats all I ever tried
[09:05] <dsmith_> I was amzed to say the least
[09:05] <Skuller> hmm....
[09:05] <stdin> Skuller: the program (game) will have a rating for a version of wine, some things will work in one version, and not another
[09:05] <dsmith_> never got office 2003 to work, but crossover software does work on that
[09:05] <Skuller> stdin: ohh....well i dont think UT99 has a rating of platinum for any version...gold is as close as it gets.....probably
[09:06] <Adydas> Skuller: dont help
[09:06] <Adydas> i still got issues
[09:07] <Skuller> Adydas: what do you mean?
[09:07] <flake> kde 3.5 - where are the power settings
[09:07] <intelikey> later all.
[09:07] <Adydas> wouldnt work
[09:07] <Adydas> i removed it, some UnClass error
[09:07] <Adydas> or somthing
[09:08] <Skuller> Adydas: ohh....well i just said what i heard from other ppl in this forum....so i cant sayanything further...sorry
[09:08] <dsmith_> stdin: ok I was poking around in he settings gui, and I do not see any settings except those for the display features of beryl itself. I need to adapt the driver settings
[09:08] <dsmith_> somethingis not kosher with my display
[09:08] <dsmith_> I have been able to get beryl to install fine on a newer PC
[09:08] <dsmith_> this is a 2002 series latop, not that it matters
[09:09] <dsmith_> when I click beryl-manager it starts beryl of course of which wrecks my display..
[09:09] <stdin> dsmith_: ahh, you want the X server settings then, System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[09:10] <dsmith_> ok..
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> flake: kcontrol
[09:10] <dsmith_> <--- duh should have known that!
[09:10] <Adydas> Skuller: oh i agree it should work.. sack of as...
[09:10] <Adydas> wine with wc3 works, to be fair id never use it as i have consoles to game on.. it was more a " could i " thing
[09:11] <Skuller> oh...well if anyone wants to play UT99 then heres a post if it helps.....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289796
[09:13] <ScarFreewill> is there a way to set my resolution with the console (just temp)
[09:13] <sturts> what do you mean scarfeewill?
[09:13] <Adydas> what else gets done, aside from beryl.. i need somthing to tooto with..
[09:13] <flake> display is not showing under periphereals
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> flake: what are you trying to do
[09:16] <nepomo> hi
[09:17] <ScarFreewill1> is there a way to set my resolution with the console (just temp)
[09:17] <ScarFreewill1> i want to change my number of picels that my xserver out puts via the console
[09:17] <ScarFreewill1> eg. 1280x1024 to 1600x 1024
[09:17] <flake> get the screensavers to work, and one fix says to disable the power-off options
[09:17] <mil> why is that lil batt icon stating each core is 1ghz instead of the real speed 2.13ghz c2d t7400
[09:17] <nepomo> does anbody know how to find out what graphic-card (whats the correct english translation for that?) i have without looking inside
[09:17] <flake> I might have been reading for an earlier release
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> flake: you do realise screen savers dont actually save your screen its a myth
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> flake: in fact they make you screen age faster
[09:18] <flake> true but I need the psyadelic colors
[09:18] <mil> screensavers prevent image retention on LCDs
[09:18] <stdin> ScarFreewill1: use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" the default is to use the highest resolution set
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> mil: false
[09:18] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: ok
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> the best screen saver is "blank"
[09:19] <flake> i've seen old b&w monitors with burned phosphor
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> no power is no heat, no heat means your parts last longer and you also have a lower power bill
[09:20] <mil> then... screensavers are a good way to get rid of image retention
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> flake: thats with a static image thats why you use a blank screen after a set time
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> mil: nope total bs
[09:20] <mil> then best suggestion to remove the burned images?
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> mil: your a victum of the myth makers
[09:20] <stdin> monitors don't "burn" anymore, screensavers are just there to hide your desktop when you aren't there now
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> mil: the best solution is to have a blank screen
[09:21] <mil> ive been using a blank white screen for 10 days and its pretty much still there
[09:21] <Linux_Galore> mil: have the screen saver timer still running just set it to a "blank screen"
[09:22] <Linux_Galore> mil: once the screen is burned in thats it, there is no going back
[09:22] <dsmith_> stdin: ok looking at beryl forums someone is running the same vid card that I am so I know it functions fine
[09:22] <flake> i just wanted to see some pretty colors and jog my video card
[09:22] <Linux_Galore> you cant reverse the laws of thermal dynamics with a screen saver
[09:23] <dsmith_> lol
[09:23] <flake> i still don't have any power options though, do i need to install them?
[09:23] <mil> Linux_Galore: how do i check what my cpu speed is?
[09:23] <Linux_Galore> mil: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:23] <Adydas> mil: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:24] <Linux_Galore> or use the "cpu info" applet
[09:24] <mil> why is it set at the minimum clockrate of 1ghz
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> mil: is it plugged into the mains ?
[09:25] <mil> mains?
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> mil: power mains
[09:25] <stdin> plugged in to the wall :P
[09:25] <mil> yes
[09:26] <sparr> memtest says my ram is DDR401...  what specifically might that indicate?
[09:26] <mil> that ur ram is pc3200
[09:27] <Linux_Galore> sparr: hmm let me think now, eeer you have DDR400 ram
[09:28] <dsmith_> is there a command to check what type of video hardware one has?
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> pc**** speeds dont define the class of ram
[09:28] <dsmith_> not sure if I have 128 or 256
[09:29] <Linux_Galore> dsmith_:  type free -H
[09:30] <stdin> dsmith_: for PCs "lspci | grep VGA" and for laptops "lspcmcia | grep VGA" should tell you what graphics hardware you have
[09:31] <sparr> Linux_Galore: should i be worried if i really have DDR2 800?
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> lspci -v|grep -iA 8 VGA
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> sparr: no DDR2 800  is actually just DDR4 with two buses
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> DDR400
[09:33] <sparr> Linux_Galore: hooray
[09:33] <dsmith_> stdin: thank you
[09:33] <stdin> dsmith_: no problem :)
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> sparr: you can get DDR2 versions of the DDR533 ram now too
[09:35] <dsmith_> stdin: I have the GeForce Go5200
[09:35] <dsmith_> I want to say its 128MB
[09:37] <flake> when i right click on a newly added panel, i can only modify or remove the bottom panel, not the newly added one
[09:37] <flake> what am I doing wrong
[09:37] <Linux_Galore> flake: ?
[09:38] <flake> I added a new panel, it is blank and sitting above the bottom one
[09:38] <dsmith_> where is xorg.conf
[09:38] <flake> I right click over the new panel and Remove only lists one panel (bottom)
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> flake: you do realise there are over 20,000 applications and each has things like "panels"
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> flake: whats panel
[09:39] <flake> right clicking on the taskbar below to add a new panel
[09:39] <stdin> dsmith_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <dsmith_> nm I found it
[09:40] <dsmith_> heh!
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> flake: yes, what type of panel I have 9 listed
[09:40] <flake> Remove Panel  ->  panel (Bottom)
[09:42] <Linux_Galore> flake: I dont have that issue
[09:42] <flake> maybe I didn't install all of kde from synaptic package manager
[09:43] <Linux_Galore> flake: it will list all the running panels
[09:43] <Linux_Galore> flake: so what is the first panel and the second one
[09:44] <flake> first one is the default system one
[09:44] <flake> on the bottom
[09:44] <Linux_Galore> flake:  there is no panel called "default system one"
[09:44] <stdin> make sure you choose the right panel to modify with the menu ( http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot15yo5.jpg )
[09:44] <dsmith_> nope: I am not editing xorg
[09:44] <Jucato> flake: after you add a new panel, restart Kicker. Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[09:45] <dsmith_> the conf file was for warty
[09:45] <dsmith_> :(
[09:45] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I dont have to do that for any of the panels
[09:45] <stdin> xorg.conf doesn't change much (or at all) between releases
[09:46] <flake> stdin - I don't have that drop-down
[09:46] <flake> would be nice
[09:46] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: it's a sort of bug in KDE 3.5.5+
[09:46] <flake> ok jucato I will try that restart
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: aaah been on a 3.5.6 for a week now
[09:46] <dsmith_> stdin: ok
[09:47] <Linux_Galore> flake: if you update to 3.5.6 its been fixed
[09:47] <cpk1> so I just found out I dont have flash 9 but konquerer seems too stupid to find it after 'aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree' does doing that only give me the tar and I need to uninstall it myself?
[09:47] <flake> i would have to update from the website - not in repository yet ?
[09:48] <Linux_Galore> flake: its in "a" repo you just need to add one line with adept
[09:48] <Jucato> flake: just restart kicker w/ the command I gave, and it will update itself
[09:48] <cpk1> install*
[09:48] <Jucato> (the panel)
[09:48] <Jucato> cpk1: unless you enabled the -backports repository, you'll only have Flash 7
[09:48] <stdin> cpk1: for flash9, make sure you have backports enabled
[09:48] <flake> ok
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> flake:   add  this line in with adept   - > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[09:49] <binks_> has anyone got eric4 or pyqt4.2 working on edgy
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> flake: should let you update to kde 3.5.6
[09:49] <cpk1> Jucato: i have 9.0.31.0.1 installed
[09:49] <cpk1> going to configure konq > plugins scan for new doesnt seem to find it though
[09:49] <binks_>  get this error when i configure
[09:49] <binks_> Error: Failed to create ./qtdirs. Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on
[09:49] <binks_> your PATH or use the -q argument to explicitly specify a working Qt v4 qmake.
[09:50] <binks_> i have latest build of qt4 installed
[09:50] <Jucato> cpk1: ok. in Konqueror, Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins -> click on Scan new plugins
[09:50] <cpk1> and aptitude doesnt look like it does anything after it gets the tar...
[09:50] <cpk1> Jucato: [00:51:16]  <cpk1> going to configure konq > plugins scan for new doesnt seem to find it though =P
[09:50] <Jucato> hmm..
[09:51] <Jucato> cpk1: go to about:plugins in Konqueror and see which version is detected
[09:51] <Linux_Galore> binks_: tells me you havent got the correct dev libs installed
[09:51] <Linux_Galore> binks_: because you have QT4 doesnt means you can compile stuff
[09:52] <Linux_Galore> binks_: you also need to install the dev libs
[09:52] <flake> sorry, where is adept?
[09:52] <binks_> Linux_Galore: ok ill look at dev libs
[09:52] <binks_> Linux_Galore: cheers
[09:52] <cpk1> Jucato: that might be the problem, I have 2 flash 9's and one flash 7 somehow
[09:52] <flake> a hint would work
[09:52] <Jucato> flake: K Menu -> System ?
[09:53] <Jucato> flake: where you able to solve the kicker problem?
[09:53] <flake> don't have that installed either
[09:53] <binks_> flake: kmenu system
[09:53] <Linux_Galore> flake: Kmenu->Programs->System->Adept
[09:53] <Jucato> cpk1: the 2 flash 9's is normal (I also have 2 listed)
[09:53] <Jucato> but the 1 flash 7 I'm not so sure
[09:53] <flake> jucato - could not connect to DCOP server or something
[09:54] <Jucato> flake: hm? did you enter the correct command? dcop kicker kicker restart
[09:54] <cpk1> i only have one libflashplayer.so in the .mozilla folder...
[09:54] <Jucato> flake: anyway, this should work also: Alt+F2, "killall kicker". then Alt+F2 again, "kicker"
[09:54] <flake> ok
[09:55] <ScarFreewill1> ok i got a super wead problem, at lest for me, i can't find the vertical size seting on my screen (i can set the vertical position but not size) is the possable to set the size via software eg. nvsettings/monitor&display... ?
[09:56] <ScarFreewill1> because half of my task bar is gone :P
[09:56] <flake> Can't determine display - aborting
[09:57] <ScarFreewill1> ususally my screen auto dedects the limits/bounds of the screen and puts every thing right size but now it does not work and now i notice i can't set the vertical position
[09:57] <flake> ack my 'kicker' is gone
[09:57] <ScarFreewill1> flake: press cntl+ F2
[09:58] <ScarFreewill1> flake: ops no
[09:58] <ScarFreewill1> flake: alt+F2
[09:58] <stdin> cntl ? you mean ctrl, or better still Alt :P
[09:58] <flake> ok then what
[09:58] <ScarFreewill1> flake: then run kicker
[09:58] <Skuller> what is kicker?
[09:58] <Skuller> !kicker
[09:58] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[09:58] <ScarFreewill1> taskbar
[09:59] <Jucato> kicker
[09:59] <Skuller> !change kicker
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about change kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Jucato> Skuller: kicker is the KDE Panel
[09:59] <stdin> kicker is the thing with the KMenu and taskbar (among things) on it
[09:59] <flake> I ran it from a terminal
[09:59] <Skuller> Jucato: yea...i got that...thnx
[09:59] <flake> oh duh
[09:59] <flake> was going into tty
[10:00] <ScarFreewill1> so is ther i way that i can set my vertical size nvsettings or some thing?
[10:00] <Skuller> !beryl
[10:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:00] <flake> let's try it again
[10:00] <Jucato> flake: um.. I said Alt+F2 earlier... :(
[10:00] <flake> i blame windoze, it has hozed my brain
[10:01] <Jucato> heh yeah it's known to do that :D
[10:01] <flake> you're a genius, thanks
[10:02] <ScarFreewill1> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh now i my nvsettings doesn't work any more
[10:02] <bfdhud> There is a built in composite manager in KDE right? how do I "turn it on" ?
[10:02] <cpk1> Jucato: any ideas? =\
[10:03] <Jucato> cpk1: sorry, none...
[10:03] <ScarFreewill1> bfdhud: i didn't know that i want to know too :P
[10:03] <Skuller> "libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"...what can i do to fix this?
[10:03] <dettoaltrimenti> I have windows XP on my computer, and dual booat with kubuntu with the Grub booter. Can I format the XP partition, or will that destroy Grub?
[10:03] <Adydas> grub should be located on the ubuntu instalation
[10:03] <stdin> !find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[10:03] <bfdhud> dettoltrimenti it will destroy grub
[10:03] <ubotu> File libgtk-1.2.so.0 found in libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-dbg
[10:03] <cpk1> this is not what i needed right before bed =(
[10:04] <bfdhud> but you can reinstall grup w/o losing any info
[10:04] <bfdhud> er grub
[10:04] <cpk1> now I am going to try to fix this all night...
[10:04] <stdin> Skuller: it's in the package libgtk1.2, install that
[10:04] <dettoaltrimenti> ok, so what do I do after I format the partition? just install grub from adept and that's it? or do I change something else too?
[10:04] <Jucato> bfdhud: it's called kompmgr. you turn it on by going to System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Behavior -> Translucency tab -> enabling Use translucency/shadows
[10:04] <Skuller> stdin: ok...i'l use synaptic to find it....thanks
[10:04] <Jucato> bfdhud: take note, you need to have the Composite extension in xorg.conf enabled
[10:04] <stdin> Skuller: you can just do "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"
[10:05] <bfdhud> dettoaltrimenti let me find the tutorial
[10:05] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks bfdhud
[10:05] <bfdhud> Jucato how do I do that?
[10:05] <Skuller> stdin: ohh...cool...i m still getting used to basic terminal commands....thanks for that too
[10:06] <stdin> Skuller: saves you having to open a GUI, wait for it to load, then find the package, then choose to install it, then to apply that... :P
[10:06] <Jucato> bfdhud: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Setting_up_X_Composite_Extension <-- you can follow the instructions there
[10:06] <Skuller> stdin: yea..hehe...i figured that...it sure is very convenient....and makes me feel good that i can actually use the terminal and learn its commands...hehe
[10:07] <bfdhud> I'm still looking Dettoaltrimenti
[10:08] <bfdhud> dettoaltrimenti http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2201328&postcount=7
[10:08] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks
[10:08] <bfdhud> np
[10:09] <bfdhud> hope that works, I did it recently and had no problems
[10:10] <bfdhud> Thanks for the link Jucato
[10:10] <dsmith_> how can one exit x
[10:10] <bfdhud> log out
[10:10] <dsmith_> and install a video driver
[10:10] <dsmith_> hmm
[10:10] <dsmith_> level2?
[10:10] <bfdhud> then at the window alt+tab+f2
[10:10] <bfdhud> then log in at text prompt and type
[10:10] <Jucato> dsmith_: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login in, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[10:10] <bfdhud> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:10] <ccherrett> I am running an upgrade to kubuntu. when I run
[10:11] <dsmith_> ok trying to updated my vid dricvers
[10:11] <Jucato> dsmith_: er.. log out first.. like bfdhud said...
[10:11] <ccherrett> apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[10:11] <dsmith_> ok
[10:11] <ccherrett> it just sits there
[10:11] <ccherrett> any ideas?
[10:12] <bfdhud> dsmith, Make sure after the nvidia installer is done that you sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <bfdhud> ensure nvidia is listed instead of nv. then reboot with sudo reboot. the driver should load on the reboot
[10:12] <dsmith_> ok
[10:12] <dsmith_> writing this stuff down
[10:12] <Jucato> there's no need to reboot
[10:13] <bfdhud> dsmith if you want, I can give you a link to an Ubuntu guide, that works very nicely
[10:13] <zamolxes> how's adept ?
[10:13] <dettoaltrimenti> ok so in qtparted I unmounted the partition I want to format, but it under status it still says 'active.' does that mean it's not completely unmounted?
[10:14] <cpk1> terrible
[10:14] <dsmith_> ok
[10:14] <cpk1> but thats just my opinion
[10:14] <dsmith_> bfdhud: what is the link
[10:14] <Skuller> omg....i just got a .loki for Unreal Tournament and was installing it and it suddenly asked me for a second CD...whereas i have only one and it works fine in windows....where does da second cd come in?...anyone here playing UT on kubun?
[10:14] <bfdhud> dsmith_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336412
[10:14] <Surb> I'm installing ethernet drivers on my kubuntu box, and the place I downloaded the drivers from gave me a .patch file.  I don't have access to the computer at the moment, but is there some guide somewhere I could follow on what to do with the .patch file?
[10:14] <bfdhud> works like a charm
[10:15] <bfdhud> dsmith_ only thing different for you is kdm stop instead of gdm stop
[10:15] <dsmith_> bfdhud: Thank you
[10:15] <dsmith_> lol.... ok
[10:16] <stdin> ccherrett: try "apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[10:16] <stdin> *"
[10:16] <Jazon> Jucato: kumusta
[10:16] <Jazon> :P
[10:16] <Jucato> Jazon: hi! doing fine... relatively... :D
[10:16] <zamolxes> hrm, i think i'll stick with aptitude
[10:16] <cpk1> Jucato: it was as easy as rm'ing the flashplugin in my ~/.mozilla/plugins folder then reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree =X
[10:16] <Jazon> well guys, I am really hoping for some ideas here.... <more>
[10:16] <Jucato> cpk1: oh.. :/
[10:17] <cpk1> dont i feel dumb...
[10:17] <cpk1> but i think apt should do that for you
[10:17] <Jazon> I have been asking in ubuntu+1, but no response.  I did a dist-upgrade to feisty  :'(  and I now have a <more>
[10:18] <Jazon> pretty serious issue with mdadm.  is there a way I can fix this, it is saying this:   http://rafb.net/p/n5Xme841.html
[10:18] <Jucato> cpk1: unless you installed the one in ~/.mozilla/plugins in a different way, in which case apt won't know
[10:19] <cpk1> Jucato: nope this was this first time i even fiddled with flash
[10:19] <bfdhud> Jucato could you please give me that composite link again?
[10:19] <stdin> apt usually won't touch a users config files/dirs
[10:19] <Jucato> bfdhud: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Setting_up_X_Composite_Extension
[10:19] <bfdhud> Thank you
[10:19] <Jucato> cpk1: when you first ran a site w/ Flash content, did a dialog box pop out asking if you want to install Flash, and installed flash?
[10:20] <xpoint> Jazon: line 20
[10:20] <ccherrett> stdin: that worked, thanks!
[10:20] <ccherrett> what is -s?
[10:20] <stdin> ccherrett: simulate :P
[10:20] <cpk1> Jucato: dont think so...
[10:20] <ccherrett> ??
[10:21] <cpk1> but that would have been several months ago =P
[10:21] <ccherrett> stdin: simulate are you messing with me :)
[10:21] <stdin> ccherrett: nope, it make apt-get do nothing
[10:21] <Jucato> cpk1: you just might not have remember :D
[10:21] <ccherrett> stdin: then how does that help?
[10:21] <Jazon> xpoint: line 12
[10:21] <stdin> ccherrett: before it was waiting for you to confirm you wanted to update, so it was waiting for your input
[10:22] <ccherrett> stdin: is it just pretending now?
[10:22] <ccherrett> or simulating?
[10:22] <ccherrett> stdin: ^
[10:22] <ccherrett> stdin: is it acctually doing the upgrade?
[10:23] <stdin> ccherrett: the 1st apt-get command you only want to get the list, the 2nd one will install the packages,
[10:23] <stdin> ccherrett: so it is doing the upgrade now
[10:25] <stdin> ccherrett: so with "apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install" what's happening is, "apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' " gets the list of packages to install, and "xargs apt-get -y install" goes and installs them for real
[10:26] <ccherrett> stdin: ah got you. thanks man very smart
[10:26] <stdin> no problem :D
[10:28] <timster> Whifch packages do I need to install for PHP?
[10:28] <stdin> !php
[10:28] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:28] <ScarFreewill> !duelscreen
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duelscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <ScarFreewill> !dualscreen
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <Jucato> !dualhead | ScarFreewill
[10:29] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:29] <stdin> !Xinerama
[10:29] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:29] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: ty
[10:31] <stdin> ccherrett: you should see the instructions have been updated now :)
[10:33] <n4cht> cpk1: ping?
[10:34] <cpk1> n4cht: pong
[10:34] <dettoaltrimenti> when I try to mount the partition I just formatted, it says "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[10:35] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: what is the command you are using?
[10:35] <dettoaltrimenti> what am I doing wrong?
[10:35] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 sudo mount /dev/sda1
[10:35] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: make a folder somewhere, for instance do 'sudo mkdir /media/satadrive'
[10:35] <n4cht> cpk1:  http://slashwrist.ath.cx
[10:36] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 done
[10:36] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/satadrive
[10:37] <cpk1> n4cht: why the change?
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 that worked... I guess the problem is the sda1 folder in /media, and I'd like ubuntu to automatically mount this for me on startup- why does it say 'access denied' when I try to delete this folder?
[10:38] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: because root owns it
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti> ohhh got it
[10:38] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: the problem was your command didnt have a mount point
[10:38] <timster> Is there a GUI mc alternative
[10:38] <n4cht> cpk1: because that's being hosted by the system i'm currently sitting at right now.  ;)   i can start hosting everything myself now that i don't have windows on here anymore.  no more need for dual-booting.
[10:39] <n4cht> Uptime: 5 days and 17 minutes
[10:40] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks cpk1
[10:40] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: if you wanted to you could make a folder in your home dir to mount the drive
[10:41] <stdin> just bind it
[10:41] <cpk1> n4cht: i will admit the .cx scared me, there used to be quite the picture at a .cx site
[10:41] <n4cht> haha.  "you've been goatse'd!"
[10:42] <cpk1> only once a very long time ago =X
[10:42] <n4cht> that site has totally changed.
[10:42] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 in this newly formatted partition (used to be XP) there's a folder called 'lost+found' that has 3 gigs of something in it, and I can't access the folder even as root. What can I do?
[10:43] <killavus> Hello guys.
[10:43] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: root can do anything
[10:43] <killavus> I have problem: I use router and I have problem with connecting to "aptitude" or sth...
[10:44] <n4cht> dettoaltrimenti: chmod 777 lost+found
[10:44] <killavus> When I was using modem everything was fine.
[10:44] <killavus> Someone can help me? I'll be glad...
[10:44] <cpk1> n4cht: so how is kde treating you?
[10:44] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: chmod: changing permissions of `lost+found': Operation not permitted
[10:44] <cpk1> sudo chmod
[10:45] <n4cht> http://slashwrist.ath.cx/shots/kdesexy.png  <- that's how kde is treating me.
[10:45] <cpk1> if you literally *just* formatted this drive though then there shouldnt be anything in lost+found
[10:45] <cpk1> lost+found is for when bad things happen
[10:46] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks guys. Yeah I don't know why there's only 57 gigs out of 60, is there any way to clean up the drive any more than formatting it?
[10:46] <timster> !xbfx
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <firecrotch> I can't find ".ssh/authorized_keys" on my system... help?
[10:46] <timster> :O
[10:46] <cpk1> the 3 gigs is used for filesystem stuff
[10:46] <dettoaltrimenti> ah gotcha
[10:46] <pirothezero> trivial question, got some folders in /media that only have root permissions, been trying to chmod it and chown it but still remains as root
[10:46] <n4cht> firecrotch: ~/.ssh
[10:47] <cpk1> you will never get to use the whole capacity the drive has because the file system itself needs to take up some of the space, thats the simplest way I can think of explaining it
[10:47] <firecrotch> n4cht: -bash: cd: /root/.ssh: No such file or directory
[10:47] <pirothezero> also whats the command to increase the 5% overhead that root keeps for itself so you dont over install?
[10:47] <pirothezero> err decrease rather to 1-2%
[10:47] <cpk1> n4cht: i think my computer would start chugging if I used transparencies that much
[10:48] <cpk1> n4cht: and no amarok?!
[10:48] <n4cht> cpk1: my didn't like it too much, and this beast ain't nothin' to fool with.
[10:48] <stdin> firecrotch: how about in the users home, unless you always login as root
[10:48] <n4cht> Sysinfo for 'black': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 2075 MHz (4154 bogomips), , RAM: 463/503MB, 145 proc's, 5.0d up
[10:48] <n4cht> cpk1: can amarok connect to shoutcast streams?
[10:49] <firecrotch> stdin: I'm logging into my server via ssh, which I always do as root
[10:49] <cpk1> n4cht: yes
[10:49] <cpk1> n4cht: its under playlists
[10:49] <stdin> firecrotch: if the file doesn't exist, then just make it
[10:49] <n4cht> cpk1: sure as sh!7 is.
[10:50] <cpk1> i dunno why but I think amarok is like the coolest thing since sliced bread
[10:50] <cpk1> it has its own desktop
[10:50] <cpk1> and is maximized with no border
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti> how can I give write access to my normal user (not root) for my new partition?
[10:53] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: is it a ext3 partition ?
[10:54] <dettoaltrimenti> stdin, yes
[10:54] <dettoaltrimenti> but when I try to copy and paste files there, it says 'access denied'
[10:54] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: what's the directory called, where it's mounted ?
[10:54] <dettoaltrimenti>  media/hello
[10:55] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: sudo chown `whoami` -R /media/hello
[10:55] <dettoaltrimenti> whoami should be my username right?
[10:55] <ccherrett> I just upgraded and rebooted. I forgot that I had a specially configured menu for grub to point to my second partition to boot because of a Windows dual boot.
[10:56] <firecrotch> Okay, so I want to be able to login to my server via ssh using RSA authentication.  I created my key and copied it into my newly created authorized_keys file.  But it doesn't work :(
[10:56] <ccherrett> so I edit the grub menu to point to hd(0,1)
[10:56] <ccherrett> and it starts to boot but then complains that there is no /sbin/init
[10:56] <ccherrett> any ideas?
[10:56] <dettoaltrimenti> got it thanks stdin
[10:56] <cpk1> stdin: what if there was data on what was mounted there that belonged to other people? =O
[10:56] <thomax> hi all
[10:56] <firecrotch> hi, thomax
[10:57] <stdin> cpk1: that's what a "users" group is good for :P
[10:57] <ccherrett> stdin: do you know what might be happeing to me here?
[10:58] <n4cht> doing a new screenshot
[10:58] <thomax> I'm having some trouble booting the kubuntu feisty herd 4 (live)cd
[10:58] <firecrotch> grr... silly me, I messed up the name of the key on my comp
[10:58] <stdin> ccherrett: is your root partition is on /dev/hda2
[10:58] <cpk1> Skuller: some companies sell oem with linux
[10:58] <thomax> here is the errormsg
[10:58] <thomax> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=14075.0
[10:59] <n4cht> http://slashwrist.ath.cx/shots/kderock.png  <- sexah!  now with more amarok!
[10:59] <Skuller> cpk1: do you refer to desktops or servers?
[10:59] <firecrotch> cpk1: True, but you have to specifically request it from most of them
[10:59] <ccherrett> stdin: yes
[11:00] <ccherrett> stdin: It looks like I need to reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[11:00] <ScarFreewill> how do is see what driver i'm currenty using, not with viewing xorg.conf
[11:00] <ccherrett> acording to a post on the ubuntu forums
[11:00] <cpk1> you also have to specifically request not to have windows to save yourself money...
[11:00] <stdin> ccherrett: maybe a bad install, try mounting it in the live cd and check it
[11:00] <cpk1> its a little mini amarok!
[11:01] <ccherrett> stdin: will do
[11:01] <Skuller> cpk1: hehe...yea...but is it easy for a person who has never used a computers before to get used to a linux distro faster than he would've to Windows?
[11:01] <Skuller> *computer
[11:01] <cpk1> ubuntu... possibly
[11:02] <ScarFreewill> i messed with my xorg now my drivers are gone boom
[11:03] <Skuller> yes the exclusion of windows license does decrease the price tag....altho in many places in especially developing countries the 'computer shop' will just install a pirate copy of Windows on the system
[11:03] <ScarFreewill> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:03] <thomax> anyone have an idea on this one ? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=14075.0
[11:04] <Skuller> sorry for bringing this topic up...totally useless compared to the help other ppl need here.
[11:04] <ScarFreewill> south africa's punisapalty (the people that suply water and stuff like that) is going to stop using windows and start using linux
[11:04] <stdin> ScarFreewill: make sure you have a line like "Load    "glx"" in the "Section "Module"" section in /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[11:04] <ScarFreewill> stdin: ok
[11:04] <Skuller> ScarFreewill: mandela's ubuntu effect ;)
[11:05] <ScarFreewill> Skuller: hehe
[11:05] <astan> anyone had problems with RealMedia video skipping/lagging when playing with realplay?
[11:05] <astan> first i thought it was my crappy connection, but i downloaded the file and tested, same problem :/
[11:06] <ScarFreewill> !pastebin
[11:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:06] <astan> i was on tv yesterday, so i really want to see this clip :)
[11:07] <astan> ah. mplayer works! nevermind.
[11:08] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: its already in there i'm pasting it in pastebin
[11:08] <ScarFreewill1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7331/
[11:09] <ScarFreewill1> !ping
[11:09] <ubotu> pong
[11:09] <ScarFreewill1> :D
[11:09] <cpk1> !botsnack
[11:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:09] <ScarFreewill1> lol
[11:10] <stdin> ScarFreewill1: hmm, that looks ok to me
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti> when transferring files between 2 partitions, both on the same physical harddrive, I'm only getting transfer rates of about 6MB/sec. Should it be going faster than this?
[11:11] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: remember that the brush has to move twice, back and forth for 1 read/write operation
[11:11] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: i just reconfigured it and restarted x but i don't have 3d acceration
[11:12] <stdin> ScarFreewill1: don't you need the "nvidia" driver, ie not "nv" for that?
[11:12] <firecrotch> I'm having issues setting up RSA authentication :(   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7332/
[11:12] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: i was messing around with 2 screens maybe xorg is confused with the wronge screen? or maybe its becuace my screen has a new name
[11:12] <firecrotch> It shouldn't be asking for my password
[11:13] <n4cht> i got bored and made a house of leaves wallpaper if anyone here has read the book.   http://slashwrist.ath.cx/shots/houseofleaves.gif
[11:13] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: i've always used nv it has always worked for me i can try nvidia though
[11:13] <cpk1> nvidia wont work unless you actually have the proprietary drivers
[11:14] <ScarFreewill1> firecrotch: is rsa well the one your taking about a server/app/place? because i live in RSA its a weard place...
[11:15] <ccherrett> stdin: I chrooted in and reinstalled ubuntu-minimal like the post said to but same error
[11:15] <ScarFreewill1> cpk1: i've got normal deb/apt
[11:15] <ccherrett> stdin: I noticed that the root= in the menu,lst now points to a UUID
[11:15] <ccherrett> stdin: I don't believe that it use to
[11:15] <ScarFreewill1> um, i'm going to install feisty now
[11:15] <firecrotch> ScarFreewill1: RSA as in public-key authentication
[11:16] <ccherrett> stdin: I wonder if it sound be easier to save all my data and do a clean install
[11:17] <stdin> ccherrett: that's normal, I'd check that the UUID is right tho, with the "blkid" command in konsole
[11:17] <ccherrett> s/sound/would/g
[11:17] <ccherrett> stdin: could that throw the boot process?
[11:17] <stdin> yeah, it couls
[11:17] <stdin> *could
[11:17] <ccherrett> stdin: ok I will try thanks
[11:19] <stdin> ccherrett: if the UUIDs are right, and you can't boot, then backing up and a fresh install may be the answer
[11:20] <atidem> hello
[11:27] <ScarFreewill> how do i check md5 es
[11:27] <stdin> !md5sum
[11:27] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[11:27] <ScarFreewill> ty
[11:28] <stdin> :)
[11:28] <n4cht> wtf.
[11:28] <ScarFreewill> 4a5c19a18694954d94c447f71f5e2a88  ./feisty-desktop-i386.iso :P
[11:29] <n4cht> someone just sent me a link to the most disturbing video ever.
[11:29] <ScarFreewill> does not look good
[11:30] <ScarFreewill> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e is offical
[11:30] <Lynoure> n4cht: and your kubuntu crashed as the result?
[11:30] <n4cht> i kinda wish it had, Lynoure.
[11:31] <n4cht> cuz this video is too catchy.  despite how disturbing it is, i can't stop watching it and laughing my arse off.
[11:31] <stdin> ScarFreewill: what version is that, it should be "3de5da625407ef85be3ef54d98cf07f3" for herd4
[11:31] <ScarFreewill2> maybe not i used 6.10's checksums
[11:31] <ScarFreewill2> and i have 7.04 herd 3 i think
[11:31] <ScarFreewill2> !feisty
[11:31] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:32] <ScarFreewill2> !kubuntu
[11:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:32] <Lynoure> n4cht: I was a hint that you are talking to #kubuntu, not to the offtopic channels, so please please do not share it here
[11:32] <stdin> herd 3 md5sum = 04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe
[11:32] <n4cht> oh yikes.  I sure am.  I didn't even notice that, Lynoure!  Thanks!
[11:33] <stdin> ScarFreewill, ScarFreewill2, ScarFreewill1 (logged on enough :P ): download from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/herd-4/
[11:34] <ScarFreewill2> hehe i've got the worst internet in the world i'm only loged in with ScarFreewill2 the rest i can't contorle (my internet brakes 24/7)
[11:35] <stdin> ScarFreewill2: have you registered your nick ?
[11:36] <ScarFreewill2> yes as ScarFreewill
[11:36] <stdin> you can kill the other 2 and get back to ScarFreewill then
[11:36] <dsmith_> nope beryl still does not show any sort of theme
[11:36] <dsmith_> and there are like 22 desktops on my lower panel
[11:36] <dsmith_> ugh
[11:37] <ScarFreewill2> ok i'm sure now that i have alpha 3 this is my md5sum "04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe  feisty-desktop-i386.iso"
[11:37] <stdin> ScarFreewill2: use /msg NickServ ghost NickName password
[11:37] <ScarFreewill2> stdin: how do i get back on ScarFreewill because it says it already in use,,,
[11:37] <ScarFreewill2>  /nick ScarFreewill says [Nick]  Nickname already in use, try a different one.
[11:38] <ScarFreewill2> o nwm
[11:38] <ScarFreewill> cool thx stdin
[11:38] <stdin> recover :P
[11:38] <stdin> np :)
[11:38] <stdin> saves me some confusion :P
[11:43] <snama> hey all
[11:43] <snama> whats up?
[11:43] <stdin> the sky?
[11:43] <snama> yeah
[11:43] <snama> i need help
[11:44] <stdin> ask away
[11:44] <snama> i need to mount my slave harddrive
[11:44] <snama> IDE
[11:44] <snama> anyone?
[11:44] <stdin> what's the device? /dev/hdb1 ?
[11:44] <snama> yes
[11:45] <stdin> where do you want to mount it?
[11:45] <snama> hdb5 actually is the ext3 partition
[11:45] <snama> so i need hdb5
[11:45] <snama> what do you mean?
[11:45] <stdin> and you want to mount it where?
[11:46] <snama> what do you mean where? i want to access it
[11:46] <stdin> snama: you have to mount it somewhere to get to it
[11:46] <stdin> like /media/hdb5 for example
[11:46] <snama> aah
[11:46] <snama> allright
[11:46] <snama> yes
[11:46] <snama> now i get it
[11:47] <snama> yeah we can take media
[11:47] <ccherrett> stdin: thanks for all your help tonight. I need some sleep but will get back to this tomorrow
[11:47] <stdin> snama: 1st you need to make the directory
[11:47] <snama> haha its morning here in sweden
[11:47] <snama> ok
[11:47] <stdin> ccherrett: no problam, that's why I'm here :)
[11:47] <ccherrett> stdin: 3:45 AM in Canada :)
[11:47] <ccherrett> later
[11:48] <stdin> ccherrett: 10:47 am here  (UK)
[11:48] <stdin> later
[11:48] <SolidSource> lol he in same time zone I am
[11:50] <SolidSource> so whats goin on this night/morning....whatever it is..
[11:50] <kubuFire> Hi!! I just install Kubuntu, and I try to install my modem. From instructions I must install build-essential. I find in my cd and it find some dependecies ? What I must do ?
[11:50] <gasparre> buon giorno
[11:51] <stdin> kubuFire: use adept to install it
[11:51] <gasparre> qualcuno sa aiutarmi per mettere kubuntu in ita ??
[11:51] <stdin> !it | gasparre
[11:51] <ubotu> gasparre: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:51] <snama> stdin you mean create a directory? coz thats not possible in media right now
[11:51] <stdin> snama: I'll tell you how to :)
[11:51] <gasparre> !it
[11:52] <gasparre> giorno
[11:52] <kubuFire> stdin: I try with adept and with dpkg -i but I have not internet and it cannot resolve dependecies...
[11:52] <stdin> snama: open konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole) and type "sudo mkdir /media/hdb5" (you'll need to enter your password)
[11:53] <stdin> kubuFire: make sure your CD is in your sources.list (sudo apt-cdrom add)
[11:53] <snama> done
[11:54] <stdin> snama: to mount it, you should just be able to do "sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5" now
[11:54] <snama> nice
[11:54] <SolidSource> kubuFire: you need internet, can't really resolve the dependencies without....unless you have the DVD version, it should be on that
[11:55] <stdin> SolidSource: the dependencies for build-essential are on the alternative cd, which I'm pretty sure he has
[11:55] <snama> that
[11:55] <snama> thanks man*
[11:55] <stdin> no problem :)
[11:55] <snama> but i changed hda5 to hdb5
[11:56] <SolidSource> stdin: well..I only use the DVD...so don't know what all is on the alternative
[11:56] <stdin> snama: that's just be making silly typos :P
[11:56] <kubuFire> stdin, SolidSource : I have the common cd from kubuntu site (Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy)
[11:56] <stdin> kubuFire: you say you found the package build-essential on the CD?
[11:57] <kubuFire> stdin: yes, i try right click install but not work
[11:57] <stdin> kubuFire: where on the CD is it?
[11:57] <kubuFire> stdin: As I remember .../ubuntu/sth/b/build-essentials and ubuntu was a shortcut/link
[11:59] <kubuFire> stdin: \pool\main\b\build-essential the exact path
[11:59] <stdin> kubuFire: when you boot from the cd, what type of installer do you see, a graphical desktop or a text installer?
[12:00] <kubuFire> stdin: graphical
[12:00] <ScarFreewill> there is an evil file in my home root called
[12:00] <ScarFreewill> !20
[12:00] <ScarFreewill> uU2TT
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 20 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <ScarFreewill> i can't see most of those fonts
[12:01] <SolidSource> same here
[12:01] <stdin> kubuFire: you need to add the CD to the source list, with the command "sudo apt-cdrom add" then install build-essential with adept
[12:01] <ScarFreewill> i can't set its permitions i can't delete it..
[12:01] <stdin> ScarFreewill: can you see it in konqueror?
[12:01] <ScarFreewill> yes
[12:01] <SolidSource> scarfeewill: check its properties
[12:01] <stdin> can you modify it in that?
[12:02] <thomax> does anyone knows where I can see what driver is used for my dvd drive
[12:02] <stdin> (and change the bloody name)
[12:02] <kubuFire> ok thanks
[12:02] <ScarFreewill> i can open it with kate and save to it and then delete it but it just comes back
[12:02] <stdin> thomax: try the command "lsmod | grep cdrom"
[12:03] <thomax> gives nothing back
[12:03] <thomax> thomas@LINUXBOX:~$ lsmod | grep cdrom
[12:03] <thomax> thomas@LINUXBOX:~$
[12:04] <SolidSource> scarfeewill: sounds like someone planted something in a program you installed..or you got hacked
[12:04] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: i'm guessing its via something i intalled
[12:04] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: my router doesn't evern allow to be pinged...
[12:05] <SolidSource> scarfeewill: me too...but don't know how to get rid of it, haven't had such issues
[12:06] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: i think it might be related to wine do you use wine or have ever used it?
[12:06] <SolidSource> scarfeewill: yeah I use wine, but what kind of file did you say it was?
[12:06] <ScarFreewill> it does not have an extension
[12:07] <ScarFreewill> it does not contain data as var as i know
[12:07] <ScarFreewill> *far
[12:08] <SolidSource> scarfeewill bitdefender might work: http://www.bitdefender.com/site/view/Download-Free-Products.html
[12:08] <SolidSource> if its a virus, spyware or something
[12:08] <ScarFreewill> ?!2?0?????????uU??????2?T????T is how the console pics it up
[12:09] <ScarFreewill> and konqueror as "
[12:09] <ScarFreewill> !20
[12:09] <ScarFreewill> uU2TT
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 20 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: you also could try installing spybot under wine....its supposed to work,,,but I don't know
[12:10] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: it does not mind, i can just recreate my user
[12:10] <SolidSource> huh?
[12:11] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: i don't run wine as root so it should not efect other users and there for if i create a other user there will be no such file
[12:11] <SolidSource> scarfreewill true
[12:12] <ScarFreewill> but i'm anyways going to try to install feisty now...
[12:12] <SolidSource> lol downloading all that myself right now
[12:13] <ScarFreewill> hehe
[12:13] <stdin> I've been on feisty since herd1 :)
[12:13] <SolidSource> I tried it, but samba wouldn't work
[12:13] <SolidSource> it supposed to work in herd 4 though
[12:13] <stdin> works here
[12:14] <ScarFreewill> herd 1 did not work for me...
[12:14] <ScarFreewill> i reported the bug colen wattson fixed it in herd3
[12:14] <ScarFreewill> so i'm going to try it...
[12:14] <stdin> I'm not on herd1 now, I do a dist-upgrade at least once a day you know
[12:15] <SolidSource> hey anyone know of any antivirus with realtime scanning? everything I find is all manual, but thats not very preventative
[12:15] <ScarFreewill> hehe
[12:15] <thomax> When I try to install feisty herd 4 alternate cd, I get the errormsg that my cdrom was not detected and could therefor not be mounted, this is because of the jmicron ide chipset, now I was wondering, would this problem go away if I buy a SATA dvdrw ?
[12:15] <stdin> SolidSource: virus? what's that?
[12:15] <ScarFreewill> thomax: what sata dvdrw here in RSA we only have ide !!!!!!!! :((
[12:16] <stdin> thomax: feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <SolidSource> stdin: lol true...
[12:16] <ScarFreewill> i've been w8ing for sata roms from like 2005
[12:16] <ScarFreewill> :'(
[12:17] <thomax> they exist nox :)
[12:17] <thomax> now
[12:17] <ScarFreewill> where do you live..
[12:17] <stdin> s/where/in what universe/
[12:18] <thomax> belgium
[12:18] <fairman> Hi, i have problem with Kopete. My ICQ password is saved in KDE Wallet and when i start Kopete i must write my password for KDE Wallet, but now, there is not any password dialog and i can not connect to ICQ.
[12:19] <SolidSource> thats odd
[12:20] <stdin> the only time this PC is off, is when there is a power cut
[12:20] <thomax> try erasing your kopete config files in ~/.kde/share/config and ~/.kde/share/apps
[12:20] <thomax> and start over
[12:20] <SolidSource> I turn mine off only when I leave for a few days
[12:21] <Foofty> beryl keeps dropping back to kwin with the error: beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[12:21] <Foofty> beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[12:21] <Foofty> GAH
[12:21] <stdin> I keep it on, so I can ssh in it it
[12:21] <ScarFreewill> !beryl
[12:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:21] <Foofty> ah thnx =] 
[12:21] <SolidSource> I can't use any form of remote access at all with the ISP I have
[12:21] <stdin> SolidSource: you can't connect on any port? you can choose one other than 22
[12:22] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: same here, but its not only isp its bandworth too
[12:22] <SolidSource> stdin: no its that my ISP blocks all incoming completely
[12:22] <SlackRat> anyone try nUbuntu?
[12:23] <ScarFreewill> !nubuntu
[12:23] <SolidSource> stdin: scarfreewill: due to bandwidth limitations as well *at least that sthe claim*
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <ScarFreewill> what is nubuntu?
[12:23] <timster> #
[12:23] <SolidSource> I prefer Kubuntu Satanic Edition
[12:23] <stdin> SolidSource, ScarFreewill: FreeNX works well over low bandwidths
[12:23] <SlackRat> unofficial pen testing distro based on ubuntu with fluxbox
[12:23] <timster> Is there a Konquoror replacement?
[12:24] <SlackRat> satanic edition is just a theme, isnt it?
[12:24] <Jucato> timster: as a file manager?
[12:24] <Jucato> SlackRat: yes it is
[12:24] <timster> Yeah
[12:24] <SolidSource> SlackRat: yeah
[12:24] <stdin> I don't get how an ISP can block ALL ports, if they did you wouldn't be able to receve any data at all
[12:24] <SlackRat> may download it just to scare people away from my puter, heh
[12:24] <SolidSource> stdin: again, my ISP blocks all incoming on every single port there is
[12:24] <Jucato> SlackRat: http://www.nubuntu.org/ just 2-3 secs in Google
[12:25] <stdin> SolidSource: I don't get how an ISP can block ALL ports, if they did you wouldn't be able to receve any data at all
[12:25] <caris_mere> Kontact is crashing: singal 11 (SIGSEGV). THis is the first use of the program
[12:25] <SlackRat> why?
[12:25] <ScarFreewill> stdin: wouldn't that just block all incoming data?
[12:25] <SolidSource> stdin: they block it from receiving incoming that originated outside the ISPs system
[12:25] <SlackRat> i asked if anyone tried it, why do you assume i m asking about what it is?
 what is nubuntu?
[12:26] <SolidSource> never even heard of it
[12:26] <Jucato> er sorry SlackRat
[12:26] <SlackRat> heh, np
[12:26] <stdin> SolidSource: so how would you receve data from irc.freenond.net (for example)?
[12:26] <SlackRat> unofficial pen test distro
[12:26] <Jucato> so many 'S' tonight...
[12:26] <ScarFreewill> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[12:26] <stdin> *freenode
[12:26] <SlackRat> many every night, you need assistants.....
[12:26] <fairman> thomax: I tried it, but it is still bad, i can not login and Kopete do not try to login .... still offline
[12:26] <SlackRat> :)
[12:26] <Jucato> SlackRat: nah. this is the only night you have 4 's' nicks talking all at once :D
[12:27] <SolidSource> stdin: the connection didn't originate from freenode, I told it to connect to freenode, thus opening that single port for that connection only
[12:27] <SlackRat> oh, that  S.....
[12:27] <SlackRat> its  always a bit hectic tho
[12:27] <SolidSource> LOL
[12:27] <stdin> SolidSource: so they use some kind of NAT?
[12:27] <caris_mere> Can anybody help me with the Kontact problem?
[12:27] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah, NAT proxy, whatever they do
[12:28] <stdin> SolidSource: get a new ISP :P
[12:28] <caris_mere> It crashes on startup, giving a singal 1
[12:28] <SolidSource> stdin: wish I could
[12:28] <SolidSource> stdin this is the only broadband service in my area
[12:28] <fairman> How can i start kde wallet?
[12:28] <thomas_> kwalletmanager
[12:29] <stdin> SolidSource: that sux, with my ISP I have no limits like that
[12:29] <SolidSource> SlackRat: nubuntu looks.....kind of horrible, its basically xubuntu with some tweaks
[12:30] <SlackRat> it is, regular ubuntu has no problem finding my wifi......the pen test distro has no tools to configure it and half the command line tools arent there
[12:30] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah, but you have better technology where you live
[12:30] <SlackRat> the forum vanished.....
[12:30] <ScarFreewill> stdin: my isp is the worst in the world
[12:30] <SlackRat> could give the distro on the whole a bad time of it.....
[12:30] <SlackRat> horrible is a good word for it
[12:30] <ScarFreewill> stdin: my isp blocks out bittorent and all p2p
[12:31] <stdin> ScarFreewill: UniNet Communications ?
[12:31] <SlackRat> its actually fluxbox i think......
[12:31] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: lol well mine doesn't do that, although it blocks ppl from trying to download from me
[12:31] <SlackRat> at least xubuntu would have some tools on it
[12:31] <ScarFreewill> stdin: sometimes when i use to much ports then my internet restarts
[12:31] <stdin> ScarFreewill: and you can use encryption with torrents, so they can't block it
[12:32] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: what internet do you got? you live in china?
[12:32] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: they bock me form all stuff like ppl downloading form me and even ping and then they block me form downloading from some places and ports
[12:32] <Lynoure> Don't we all share the same Internet? :)
[12:32] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: understand that...but who what how
[12:33] <SolidSource> Lynoure: yeah, in essence, but the ISP can kill ya
[12:34] <caris_mere> Any clues to why my computer no longer recognizes (connects to) my mp3 player?
[12:34] <ScarFreewill1> ok there i got another crash...
[12:34] <ScarFreewill1> SolidSource: south africa
[12:34] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: i can't
[12:34] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: one upload speed is 0.00000001 bytes/sec
[12:35] <thomas_> what ind of mp3player?
[12:35] <SolidSource> stdin: know what the funny thing is, this is the only broadband ISP in my area and I'm supposed to get a 2.5Mbs connection, but I never see speeds higher than 50 Kbs
[12:35] <caris_mere> thomas_: it is odys
[12:35] <stdin> SolidSource: DSL?
[12:35] <ScarFreewill1> stdin: two if i have to much connetions open eg. even browsing form to many differant sites then my internet restarts like it just did
[12:35] <thomas_> is it just a removable disk kinda thing or you need drivers?
[12:35] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill1: oh...sorry...
[12:35] <stdin> ScarFreewill1: ouch
[12:36] <SolidSource> stdin: nope...wireless
[12:36] <caris_mere> thomas_: I thought is was just removable disk, as I hadn't installed any drivers and it worked
[12:36] <ScarFreewill1> my brother plays planeshift and it crashes the whole time, shame
[12:36] <SolidSource> stdin: got an ugly antenna on my roof and a hole in my wall thanks to them
[12:36] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, but wireless over what?
[12:37] <thomas_> caris_mere: plug it in and check kcontrol > administration > disks and filesystems and see whether its recognised
[12:37] <SlackRat> planeshift seems to do that
[12:37] <stdin> SolidSource: all, it's "public" wireless (that you pay for)
[12:37] <thomas_> if yes, make a pount point and enable it
[12:37] <SolidSource> stdin: check their site www.readytek.com
[12:37] <SolidSource> stdin: oops www.readytek.net
[12:37] <stdin> SolidSource: same site :P
[12:38] <SolidSource> lol
[12:38] <SolidSource> must redirect ya
[12:38] <ScarFreewill> well my internet is acctually quite good compaired to some other here in south africa
[12:38] <SolidSource> and you can be happy its not Nigeria where my friend is
[12:38] <caris_mere> thomas_: not it doesn't seem to be recognized, and the player itself doesn't say USB READY, as it should
[12:39] <ScarFreewill> i pay 42 usd for broken 64kilobits NOT bytes/sec
[12:39] <ScarFreewill> with less than a byte/s upload
[12:39] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: I pay $39....
[12:39] <_Johny> hey guys. Just a little question: How do keep clean and helthy my linux. Is there anything I can do?
[12:39] <fairman> I am back, my Kopete problem was solved by restart system ....
[12:40] <ScarFreewill> _Johny: just don't install weard stuff i gues
[12:40] <thomas_> caris_mere: have you tried it on another PC
[12:40] <_Johny> ScarFreewill: is that all'
[12:40] <SolidSource> _Johny: also "sudo aptitude autoclean" every now and then
[12:40] <_Johny> ok
[12:40] <stdin> I have 4Mb/s cable connection for 25.00/month
[12:40] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: is that for your apt pkgs?
[12:41] <caris_mere> thomas_: no, it works with XP, but I haven't tried with another linux machine.  THe thing is, it worked on this computer with Kubuntu, but no longer.  Even then it was not regularly recognized
[12:41] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: yeah, cleans basically everything, except self compiled stuff
[12:42] <thomax> did you change anythng in configuration before it stopped working?
[12:42] <ScarFreewill> wow
[12:42] <thomax> i'm gonna eat now, laters
[12:42] <ScarFreewill> cya
[12:42] <caris_mere> thomax: I had to reinstall all os on my computer,
[12:42] <SolidSource> stdin: thats about $50 US
[12:43] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, but it sounds more that it is like that :P
[12:43] <_Johny> should I delete files in my home dir when I no longer need them?
[12:43] <thomax|away> do you have libusb and usbutils installed?
[12:43] <SolidSource> stdin: and we have to pay canywhere from $60 to $100 here
[12:43] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: lol i pay more than you :P
[12:43] <thomax|away> I'm off nox
[12:43] <thomax|away> now
[12:44] <_Johny> Maybe "--purge" option can do that for me..
[12:44] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: you pay more and you get screwed more...interesting combo
[12:44] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: the south african combo
[12:44] <SolidSource> stdin: though, when I move I can get a 7Mbs connection for $29 US
[12:45] <SolidSource> stdin: and that price remains for the lifetime of the service
[12:45] <stdin> SolidSource: is that 7Mb/s or up to 7Mb/s ? there is a difference
[12:45] <ScarFreewill> the fastest internet in south africa as far as i know for public is 4mb/s
[12:45] <SolidSource> stdin: true....its DSL, so up to
[12:46] <ScarFreewill> i can rather buy a house instead of buying that...
[12:46] <SolidSource> stdin: but still
[12:46] <stdin> SolidSource: for an extra 10/month (about $20) I can get 10Mb/s, not up to 10, but a constant 10Mb/s
[12:46] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: lol sucky
[12:47] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah, all of Europe is that way...newer technology...we in the US get screwed
[12:47] <stdin> hey, you had HD first, that's something :P
[12:48] <SolidSource> stdin: we have everything first....Europe and other places just better it, putting us out
[12:48] <ScarFreewill> ppl form a computer mag did a test 2 years ago and found out that its cheaper and MUCH faster to fly to china and back to download over 80gb
[12:48] <stdin> heh
[12:48] <SolidSource> lol
[12:49] <ScarFreewill> we had curuption first and bad sectors...
[12:49] <ScarFreewill> stuff like that..
[12:49] <blue|palm> I know this is completely off topic but ill ask anyway... does anybody know how you would distribute a mysql database along with a program that you wrote?
[12:49] <SolidSource> yeah I have done studies in my Political Sciece  classes on South Africa
[12:49] <ScarFreewill> blue|palm: what api?
[12:50] <blue|palm> ScarFreewill: Im using python and MySQLdb
[12:50] <ScarFreewill> blue|palm: sorry i only know to do that with java..
[12:50] <SlackRat> theres a topic?
[12:50] <SlackRat> :-P
[12:51] <stdin> blue|palm: maybe ask in #mysql ?
[12:51] <Jucato> !topic
[12:51] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[12:51] <stdin> SlackRat: yeah, just type /topic to see it
[12:51] <blue|palm> ScarFreewill: Everything runs great and the database contains the data required for the program, but if i needed to move it onto another machine, do i need to setup mysql on that machine and register the database all over again?
[12:51] <SolidSource> blue|palm LOL you were more on topic, than we were...but ssshhh
[12:51] <blue|palm> SolidSource: lol :)
[12:52] <SlackRat> im old school, i scroll
[12:52] <Jucato> SlackRat: basically "Kubuntu-related *support* questions" is the topic.
[12:52] <blue|palm> ScarFreewill: I can program in java as well so tell me anyway :)
[12:52] <SolidSource> blue|palm: could you possibly just copy the files needed...?
[12:52] <blue|palm> stdin: mysql is really quite
[12:53] <SlackRat> i was responding to blue palm saying he was off topic.......
[12:53] <blue|palm> SolidSource: i could do that, but then do i need to register the mysql db again on that pc?
[12:53] <blue|palm> SolidSource: That would be a hassle for the user of the program who just wants to play the game...
[12:53] <SlackRat> the :-P implies, tongue in cheek, joking........
[12:53] <SolidSource> blue|palm: hmm, good question
[12:53] <SlackRat> jucato, please stop drinking coffee....... :-P
[12:53] <ScarFreewill> can you maybe host the db over a network?
[12:54] <blue|palm> ScarFreewill: no... the program was intended to run standalone
[12:54] <ScarFreewill> um, then i don't know,,,
[12:54] <SolidSource> blue|palm: if its intended to run standalone, than just copying the file should work just fine
[12:54] <Jucato> SlackRat: yeah, my reply was my obviously futile attempt at a retort... :P
[12:55] <SlackRat> heh
[12:55] <SolidSource> Jucato: slackrat: we need a sarcasm button for IRC
[12:55] <Jucato> definitely...
[12:55] <blue|palm> SolidSource: ok... i was just wondering... wouldnt it need a server?
[12:55] <stdin> just use tags :P
[12:55] <blue|palm> SolidSource: The target computer. wouldnt it need a mysql server?
[12:56] <SolidSource> blue|palm: I don't know, depends on the program
[12:56] <SlackRat> a sarcasm icon, or button?
[12:56] <Jucato> I always seem to forget that sarcasm doesn't work online as it does offline... :(
[12:56] <stdin> SolidSource: like: message </sarcasm> :P
[12:56] <blue|palm> lol
[12:56] <SolidSource> blue|palm: yeah true, but once you install it the first time, it will be ther
[12:56] <SlackRat> true, a study was done where 90 percent of email writers assume what they say is understood, and only fifty percent get the gist of what was intended
[12:56] <blue|palm> ok
[12:56] <SlackRat> we got a 40 percent error margin, lol
[12:57] <blue|palm> SolidSource: Maybe ill have to make the mysql server a dependency for this game
[12:57] <SlackRat> is thinking of an idea another idea?
[12:57] <SolidSource> I think the error margin in IRCs are close to about our 80-97%
[12:57] <SlackRat> and if so, which one do we think about?
[12:57] <ScarFreewill> blue|palm: that might be a easy way of fixing it
[12:57] <SlackRat> hmn, we need an existential angst button too
[12:57] <SolidSource> blue|palm: yeah, probably would be easiest
[12:57] <SlackRat> lol solid
[12:58] <stdin> blue|palm: maybe you could use a sqlite db, that's less of a big dep
[12:58] <ScarFreewill> i don't know much about it...
[12:59] <ScarFreewill> i love java :)
[12:59] <SolidSource> Perl for the win
[12:59] <ScarFreewill> i don't know that either :P
[01:00] <ScarFreewill> i'm still in school
[01:00] <ScarFreewill> he
[01:00] <ScarFreewill> it teachers in south africa is super dum
[01:00] <blue|palm> stdin: hmm in java i could just connect using the jdbc driver to connect to a database file without a mysql server running... does anyone know if that is possible from within python
[01:00] <SolidSource> ok....that word is band,,,,school...uuuuggg *shivers*
[01:01] <ScarFreewill> i hack the IT class' computers
[01:01] <ScarFreewill> haha lol
[01:01] <ScarFreewill> they use xp...
[01:01] <stdin> blue|palm: don't know, I'm only just learning python
[01:02] <stdin> ScarFreewill: just bring in a kubuntu live cd and freak the teacher out :P
[01:02] <blue|palm> stdin: ok
[01:02] <ScarFreewill> i can delete ppl's projects but i'm not that mean
[01:02] <Jucato> ha there!
[01:02] <ScarFreewill> stdin: i put dsl on flashdrive, :O
[01:02] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: when i was at a networking conference, they were showing how F-secure was able to block the hacking and the guy was using a linux machine to hack windows
[01:02] <Jucato> stdin: I think this is enough for me [/sarcasm] 
[01:02] <Jucato> Autoreplace rocks!
[01:03] <stdin> heh
[01:03] <ScarFreewill> SolidSource: they just run northen 2005 with old defs on one pc...
[01:03] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: it was just funny, cause they were showing how to hack...course most of us already know how to hack
[01:03] <stdin> ScarFreewill: northen?
[01:04] <stdin> ScarFreewill: ahh, norton?
[01:04] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: is that like Norton?
[01:04] <ScarFreewill> yeah..
[01:04] <stdin> you know hacking is 100% legal
[01:05] <ScarFreewill> ye
[01:05] <SolidSource> ScarFreewill: you should go and hack them and then say "pay me and I will secure your network"
[01:05] <stdin> it's cracking that isn't </pedantic>
[01:05] <Jucato> hacking != cracking
[01:06] <stdin> although hacking windows is illegal, as it's closed source
[01:06] <SlackRat> not according to the jargon file
[01:06] <SolidSource> hey, hacking gives me a reason to have a windows machine
[01:06] <stdin> the jargon file is wrong then
[01:07] <stdin> a 4 year old could crack windows
[01:07] <SolidSource> course I do it primarily to toy with my friends head...cause he just starts freaking out
[01:07] <Jucato> a 4 year old can crack your computer open :D
[01:07] <Jucato> but of course, we are getting offtopic, right? :D
[01:07] <stdin> don't give a 4 year old a hammer then :P
[01:08] <SolidSource> don't trust kids at all...
[01:08] <SlackRat> dunno stdin.....i ll take a definition from ESR, Devs, Linus Torvalds and countless others over a definition that limits hacking to penetration testing versus malicious intrusion.......
[01:08] <SlackRat> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
[01:08] <SlackRat> does that day apply to everything ?
[01:08] <SolidSource> hey, if no one is asking question...no reason not to talk about something
[01:09] <Jucato> stdin: just made another command alias
[01:09] <Jucato> :D
[01:09] <stdin> Jucato: as long as it isn't /kick stdin :P
[01:09] <SolidSource> oh now that alias sounds fun
[01:10] <Jucato> of course not
[01:10] <SolidSource> lol
[01:10] <Jucato> don't want to abuse my cow powers lol
[01:10] <Jucato> [/sarcasm] 
[01:10] <Jucato> !ot
[01:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:10] <SolidSource> cow? no, its about the ducks
[01:10] <Jucato> er sorry
[01:10] <Jucato> wrong command!!!
[01:10] <stdin> Super Cow powers are cool
[01:10] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[01:10] <SolidSource> lol
[01:11] <stdin> heh, I think you'll be using that one a lot
[01:11] <SolidSource> the problem with that would be how can we catch questions to be able to answer them if we are in a different chat window
[01:12] <Jucato> it's like this, people are complaining that #kubuntu-offtopic is dead so why bother talking about offtopic stuff there. so, now they know how to keep it alive! heheh :)
[01:12] <Jucato> SolidSource: huh? you can be in 20 channels all at once
[01:12] <SolidSource> course could just be me since I like to keep my desktop clear
[01:12] <Jucato> (freenode has a 20-channel regular limit)
[01:12] <Jucato> unless you're using an IRC client that opens 1 window per channel...
[01:13] <SolidSource> Jucato: yeah, but I like to keep desktop clear...so I use Kopetes tabbed chatting
[01:13] <stdin> like irssi
[01:13] <Jucato> SolidSource: so? it still has tabs :)
[01:13] <stdin> don't they change colour when there is activity ?
[01:13] <SlackRat> k...its like this......before you take your meds? go to#kubuntu.....after you take your meds, go to #kubuntu - offtopic
[01:14] <SlackRat> i change color when theres activity......
[01:14] <SolidSource> stdin only if there a message directed to you
[01:14] <Jucato> :D
[01:14] <hiasll> hello! since a few days i cannot play any mp3 file with xine or arts. vlc and mplayer are working fine. anybody know this problem?
[01:14] <stdin> then use a mans IRC client, Konversation :P
[01:14] <SlackRat> hiasll, any recent updates////
[01:14] <SlackRat> lol @ a mans irc client.....
[01:15] <hiasll> SlackRat: it must be an update, because on my sister computer there's the same problem
[01:15] <Jucato> s/mans/man's/
[01:15] <SolidSource> stdin: konversation....but then I have to have a whole another program running when kopete can do it
[01:15] <SlackRat> very often those lil lib updates can have a blowback effect in strange places.....
[01:15] <stdin> Jucato: is it "man is" ?
[01:15] <Jucato> that's the problem.. Kopete can't really do it :)
[01:16] <hiasll> i use edgy my sister dapper.
[01:16] <Jucato> stdin: no. man's = possessive form of "man"
[01:16] <SlackRat> check launchpad to see if someone submitted a bug report.....or google the problem to see if its widespread
[01:16] <Jucato> stdin: as in stdin's or Jucato's :)
[01:17] <SolidSource> thats not my fault....eventually kopete will get there....to bad Trillian doesn't make a full version for linux
[01:17] <stdin> Jucato: so when I type "Jucato's cat" am I referring to your cat, or saying you are one ? :P
[01:17] <SolidSource> lol
[01:17] <Jucato> stdin: in my case, you're referring to my cat, and I wish I were half one :)
[01:17] <SlackRat> your refering to either his cat, or his concatenation
[01:18] <SlackRat> you're*
[01:18] <stdin> I suppose a grammar discussion is severely offtopic :P
[01:19] <SolidSource> grammer? whats that?
[01:19] <SlackRat> severly, its also boring
[01:19] <Jucato> yeah, but I'm looking for an excuse to exercise my super cow powers :)
[01:19] <stdin> SolidSource: something MS word told me I need to work on :P
[01:19] <SlackRat> its a spammer with bad puctuation and grammar
[01:19] <SolidSource> stdin: adn do you believe everything MS tells you?
[01:19] <SlackRat> lol
[01:19] <SolidSource> and*
[01:20] <SlackRat> apt-get moo
[01:20] <stdin> SolidSource: yes, because I've been beaten over the head repeatedly for a week (now that's sarcasm)
[01:20] <SolidSource> lol
[01:21] <SolidSource> talking about cows...I wonder if there is a OpenGL screensaver where cows play games like volleyball, football and such
[01:21] <afadsfadsfsadf> hello guys again
[01:21] <stdin> SlackRat: I like aptitude moo (adding -v over and over)
[01:22] <afadsfadsfsadf> oops it changed my nick...
[01:22] <SolidSource> lol
[01:22] <SolidSource> interesting
[01:22] <timster> !jack
[01:22] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[01:22] <doomnx2> i am the guy with the partition problem
[01:22] <timster> !jACK
[01:22] <doomnx2> if anyone remembers me
[01:22] <doomnx2> i've got new info
[01:23] <timster> Is there a gui Jack controller?
[01:23] <doomnx2> where can i paste the results from fdisk -l command?
[01:23] <stdin> !paste
[01:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:23] <timster> !jACK
[01:23] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[01:23] <doomnx2> oh thanks i just noticed
[01:23] <timster> The other jack :(
[01:23] <timster> !JACK Audio Connection
[01:23] <sab> hello is there anybody french????? j'ai un probleme de conexion wifi svp
[01:23] <SolidSource> jack? jack sparrow?
[01:24] <timster> Jack audio connecter
[01:24] <Jucato> !fr | sab
[01:24] <ubotu> sab: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:24] <sab> merci ubotu et jucato
[01:24] <SolidSource> timster: sorry don't know
[01:24] <timster> Any ideas?
[01:24] <timster> Ok
[01:24] <timster> Ah
[01:24] <timster> Adept ftw
[01:25] <doomnx2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7349/
[01:25] <doomnx2> ok here u go
[01:25] <SolidSource> adept is your friend...unless you want something like java to be installed
[01:25] <doomnx2> how can make the 80GB partition appear in windowsxp?
[01:25] <SolidSource> doomx2: is it a linux partition?
[01:25] <doomnx2> no, ntfs
[01:25] <timster> Any KBFX users in here?
[01:26] <SolidSource> doomnx2: XP should recognize it right off
[01:26] <doomnx2> but it isn't
[01:26] <doomnx2> doesn't*
[01:26] <stdin> !windows
[01:26] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:26] <stdin> sorry, couldn't resist that :)
[01:26] <SolidSource> doomnx2: well right click on "my computer" and select "manage"
[01:26] <pointfivezero> doomnx2: try using the disk management tool in using compmgr
[01:27] <doomnx2> i am not on my PC right now
[01:27] <doomnx2> one moment to give u a screenshot from linux system settings
[01:27] <SolidSource> stdin: true....that is a sickening topic
[01:27] <doomnx2> http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9260/snapshot1ws2.png
[01:28] <doomnx2> well it says NTFS here
[01:28] <timster> !democracy
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <doomnx2> and it was NTFS before the installation
[01:28] <timster> Can you get democracy player for linux?
[01:28] <SolidSource> well in kubuntu...you just add it like any other partition
[01:29] <doomnx2> u see i have 2 HDDS
[01:29] <SolidSource> doomnx2: yeah, I've dealt with that...then I found out WinXP can read Ext2...
[01:29] <doomnx2> on the one i had made 2 partitions: 40GB and 80GB
[01:29] <stdin> doomnx2: why do you have 2 swap partitions, and why is one 74.5GB ?
[01:30] <doomnx2> on the 40GB i had windowsxp
[01:30] <doomnx2> then i resized it to 35 and installed linux on the rest of it
[01:30] <doomnx2> but the 80GB doesn't appear on XP now
[01:30] <doomnx2> that's the problem
[01:31] <doomnx2> so now, i can access the partition only though linux
[01:31] <doomnx2> and i believe the problem is here:
[01:31] <doomnx2> . /dev/hda5            4864       14592    78148161   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:31] <doomnx2> shouldn't the ID be 7?
[01:32] <doomnx2> and NTFS system?
[01:32] <doomnx2> did it change the filesystem to use it as swap?
[01:32] <stdin> yeah
[01:32] <doomnx2> and how can revert it back to "pure" NTFS?
[01:32] <doomnx2> the files are still there, there has been no reformat
[01:32] <SolidSource> alright...I'm lost as to how it managed to do that
[01:32] <stdin> use "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" (enter) "t" (enter) "7" (enter)
[01:33] <doomnx2> and that makes it ok?
[01:33] <doomnx2> and hopefuly it will appear on XP?
[01:33] <stdin> yeah, you also need to type "w" (enter) after to write the changes to the disj
[01:34] <stdin> s/disj/disk/
[01:34] <doomnx2> one moment
[01:35] <doomnx2> so there are 4 commands
[01:35] <stdin> yeah, and don't put the quotes in
[01:35] <doomnx2> and what is /s/disj/disk?
[01:35] <doomnx2> i am a newbie sorry
[01:35] <stdin> that's me correcting my typo
[01:36] <sab> hwo is connected by wifi??
[01:36] <stdin> replace the 1st word (after s/) with the second
[01:36] <doomnx2> i want to experiment with kubuntu very much
[01:36] <doomnx2> i liked it from the first sight
[01:36] <doomnx2> so
[01:36] <doomnx2> we're done for this
[01:36] <doomnx2> another question:
[01:36] <stdin> ooh, I think I forgot a step
[01:37] <SolidSource> lol
[01:37] <stdin> you have to select the partition number (5)
[01:37] <doomnx2> how do i exit the X server?
[01:37] <doomnx2> oh
[01:37] <SolidSource> stdin: thats a bad thing to forget
[01:37] <stdin> why do you need to exit the X server?
[01:37] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, I know :P
[01:37] <Vladdy> !dualboot
[01:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:37] <doomnx2> because... one moment:
[01:38] <SolidSource> lol theres a splash screeen for amarok called "murder windows"
[01:38] <doomnx2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7354/
[01:38] <doomnx2> because of this
[01:39] <stdin> doomnx2: why not use the driver from ubuntu?
[01:39] <doomnx2> u mean download it?
[01:39] <SolidSource> first...DON"T download driver from Nvidia
[01:39] <stdin> !nvidia
[01:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:39] <doomnx2> i have no internet connection at home :(
[01:40] <SolidSource> well...then you can download the file from the repo
[01:40] <stdin> !kdm
[01:40] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[01:40] <stdin> darn
[01:40] <stdin> !X
[01:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:40] <doomnx2> i tried very hard to get to that final step...
[01:41] <doomnx2> if only i could install that driver...
[01:41] <doomnx2> can i run "pure" command line?
[01:41] <stdin> doomnx2: logout, press "Ctrl-Alt-F1" to get to a console, login, and type " sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" to exit X
[01:41] <doomnx2> oh
[01:41] <doomnx2> and then i will be able to install the drivers, no?
[01:42] <stdin> should be, I've never had to compile it
[01:42] <doomnx2> will i have to compile it?
[01:42] <rEvolution27> hey guys.. I was playing with the songbird developer preview and I accidentally resized so small it dissapeared. My music is still playing and I have no idea what to dohey guys.. I was playing with the songbird developer preview and I accidentally resized so small it dissapeared. My music is still playing and I have no idea what to do
[01:43] <stdin> doomnx2: yeah, and you'll need the kernel-headers, build-essential and the linux-restricted-modules packages
[01:43] <SolidSource> rEvolution27: does it not show up in ksysguard (ctrl+esc)?
[01:43] <rEvolution27> no
[01:44] <rEvolution27> or i'm not suire what the process is called
[01:44] <SolidSource> rEvolution27: well it runs through java I believe
[01:44] <doomnx2> oh oh...
[01:44] <doomnx2> so isn't just next next and yes? :S
[01:44] <stdin> doomnx2: no, it's not
[01:45] <doomnx2> omg and i thought i passed the hard part
[01:45] <doomnx2> nvidia recommended to download an X-config file
[01:45] <doomnx2> what do i have to do with that?
[01:45] <rEvolution27> no I have no idea what the process is called...
[01:46] <stdin> doomnx2: no clue, you should already have one setup
[01:46] <stdin> rEvolution27: if it's a java app, this it will be called "java"
[01:47] <rEvolution27> there's no java
[01:47] <SolidSource> rEvolution27: hmm, could end session and then start songbird again
[01:47] <rEvolution27> yeh :) i'll do that
 use "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" (enter) "t" (enter) "7" (enter)> -> the wrong in it is the "hda"->"hda5" ?
[01:48] <SolidSource> alright, you all enjoy..its time for me to sleep...5 hours ago
[01:48] <stdin> doomnx2: no, you want to use /dev/had not /dev/hda5
[01:49] <stdin> damn my typos
[01:49] <stdin> use /dev/hda not /dev/hda5
[01:50] <stdin> you press t, press enter, then 5 (enter) then 7
[01:51] <doomnx2> oh thanks
[01:52] <doomnx2> and then w :)
[01:52] <stdin> yeah, that should make it work
[01:53] <doomnx2> ok that was it
[01:53] <doomnx2> in summer i will install internet connection at home and i will take full advantage of kubuntu
[01:53] <doomnx2> it seems very promising
[01:54] <doomnx2> and stable
[01:54] <flaccid_> not really
[01:55] <doomnx2> i know what caused the partition to disappear from windows... i chose linux to use that partition for swap in the first installation
[01:55] <sb9> hi there, does anyone know a good tool to clone a golden client and roll out this image to a buch of cluster nodes ?
[01:56] <doomnx2> but then i splitted the 5GB space to 3.5 and 1.5 and used the 1,5GB for swap
[01:58] <curtis_> sb9 :  what is a "golden client"?
[01:59] <Lynoure> sb9: you mean golder master?
[01:59] <Lynoure> s/golder/golden
[01:59] <sb9> you can call it what you want
[01:59] <sb9> it is the master ok
[01:59] <sb9> the one to be cloned
[02:00] <sb9> i want to have a number of servers which are identically
[02:00] <adrikos> Hi again!! I just install my ADSL usb modem !! but I have very slow connection.. what might be the problem ?
[02:00] <sb9> so i make a "golden client" and clone it to the others
[02:00] <sb9> question is how to do that in an effective manner
[02:01] <Pensacola> how to get konqueror to preview multimedia files?
[02:02] <adrikos> Also i must say that I manually change the code from source in order my modem to play ... may the problem is based on that ?
[02:02] <doomnx2> i have a media player
[02:02] <doomnx2> creative zen microphoto
[02:03] <ScarFreewill> this is my md5 of herd3 04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe  feisty-desktop-i386.iso
[02:03] <curtis_> sb9 : I've used Acronis for this.
[02:03] <doomnx2> when i enable the external storage function on it, linux doesn't recognise it
[02:03] <ScarFreewill> ktorrent tells me its 100% downloaded
[02:04] <doomnx2> it works as a usb drive... at least on windows
[02:04] <doomnx2> what do i have to do for linux to work properly?
[02:04] <ScarFreewill> this is herd3's right md5 fd8145e2ccb071ef41b71b4072e643ee hey?
[02:05] <stdin> ScarFreewill: fd8145e2ccb071ef41b71b4072e643ee is the md5sum for the Ubuntu (Gnome) feisty herd 3 desktop cd image
[02:05] <curtis_> sb9 : I've also heard of SBS Migration tools.  I haven't used it but that might be something to look into as well
[02:05] <sb9> curtis : does acronis support pxe or boottp for network installation of the image ?
[02:06] <buz> is there any kde app that i can use to monitor urls for changes?
[02:06] <sb9> sbs is siemens business services ? this might cost something
[02:06] <doomnx2> "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary."
[02:06] <doomnx2> what does this mean?
[02:06] <ScarFreewill> stdin: lol oms
[02:07] <ScarFreewill> stdin: i guess i have to use that :P
[02:07] <ScarFreewill> stdin: o nwm i read it wronge :P
[02:07] <ScarFreewill> !feisty
[02:07] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <curtis_> sb9 : I am not sure about pxe  or booting it from a network.  I usually just made images and burned them to disk.  Acronis costs something too ;)
[02:08] <stdin> ScarFreewill: the md5sums are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-3/MD5SUMS (for Ubuntu Feisty Herd3)
[02:08] <doomnx2> what does Feisty Fawn mean?
[02:08] <ScarFreewill> stdin: ty
[02:09] <ScarFreewill> ugly fawn
[02:09] <ScarFreewill> i think
[02:09] <doomnx2> and what is a fawn? :S
[02:09] <ScarFreewill> facial expression
[02:09] <stdin> doomnx2: it's just a name, for the next version that will be out in april
[02:09] <doomnx2> yeah i noticed that, i just wanted to know what it means.
[02:09] <HymnToLife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn
[02:09] <doomnx2> i am from greece, sorry for my english
[02:09] <Jucato> Fawn = young deer
[02:10] <doomnx2> and how is the current release called? Edgy Eft?
[02:10] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: my bad
[02:10] <HymnToLife> yep
[02:11] <stdin> doomnx2: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for why they are called what they are
[02:11] <Jucato> ScarFreewill: you just turned my smile into a fawn :(
[02:11] <imbrandon> fawn is a deer
[02:11] <doomnx2> stdin thanks
[02:11] <Jucato> imbrandon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:11] <Jucato> :D
[02:11] <imbrandon> hey Jucato
[02:12] <doomnx2> what is an eft again?
[02:12] <imbrandon> feisty Pronunciation (fst) Full of spirit or pluck; frisky or spunky.
[02:12] <imbrandon> doomnx2, a lizard
[02:13] <imbrandon> a young newt lizard
[02:13] <doomnx2> oh
[02:13] <doomnx2> i see now on wikipedia
[02:13] <doomnx2> strange codenames i must say
[02:13] <doomnx2> but better than longhorn :P
[02:14] <imbrandon> and a drake is a duck
[02:15] <Jucato> a badger is a badger, a warthog is a warthog, etc :)
[02:15] <imbrandon> in other words they are all some adj then a animal
[02:15] <ScarFreewill> woot my cd is not curupt :)
[02:16] <doomnx2> there is a magazine here in greece called XakeR
[02:16] <doomnx2> from the word hacker
[02:16] <ScarFreewill> 04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe  feisty-desktop-i386.iso
[02:16] <ScarFreewill> 04281eed2f8d9cb3f564429a1353ddbe  kubuntu-704-desktop-i386-herd3.iso
[02:17] <doomnx2> it says that dvd to avi compression works better in linux
[02:17] <doomnx2> haven't read why yet.
[02:17] <curtis_> doommnx2 : any suggestions for converting avi to dvd?
[02:17] <thomax> batter as in speed or quality?
[02:18] <Jucato> hm... I thought X was "Chi" pronounced as "ki"....
[02:18] <Jucato> (in Greek, I mean)
[02:18] <ScarFreewill1> its very difficult to download big files in south africa with out getting it curupted :P
[02:18] <stdin> curtis_: ffmpeg -i file.avi -target ntsc-dvd file.mpg (or pal-dvd)
[02:18] <stdin> curtis_: install ffmpeg first tho :P
[02:19] <imbrandon> transcode rocks too
[02:19] <curtis_> really?  hmmm....I'll have to give that a shot.  Is ffmpeg in the repositories?
[02:19] <thomax> jes
[02:19] <stdin> curtis_: yeah
[02:20] <thomax> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[02:20] <stdin> curtis_: then you can use devede to make the iso to burn
[02:20] <stdin> curtis_: (also in the repos)
[02:21] <curtis_> stdin : great.  I'll give that a shot later.
[02:21] <curtis_> stdin : i'm kinda new to IRC, why are your messages different that others on my screen?
[02:22] <stdin> because I typed your nickname before the message
[02:22] <imbrandon> because he is saying you name infront of his sentances
[02:22] <imbrandon> curtis_, like this
[02:22] <stdin> curtis_: like this
[02:22] <stdin> snap
[02:22] <geronimo_> hello
[02:22] <imbrandon> haha
[02:22] <geronimo_> I am on kubuntu and my internet connection have trubles , why ? :/
[02:23] <imbrandon> geronimo_, we need a little more info than that, what kind of trubbly
[02:24] <curtis_> gotcha.  Thanks
[02:24] <geronimo_> web page make time to come
[02:24] <curtis_> geronimo_ do you have another computer on the internet or just the one?
[02:24] <imbrandon> hum the OS shouldent make a diffrence on the load times of a webpage, thats between the webserver itself and your isp
[02:25] <imbrandon> brb
[02:26] <geronimo_> Yes auther but no computeur are downloading or something else
[02:27] <curtis_> geronimo_ like imbrandon said, the OS shouldn't make a difference.  Is the other computer slow on the internet as well?
[02:28] <curtis_> stdin What about shrinking the DVD once it is converted?  Most of the time it is fairly large.
[02:28] <geronimo_> no
[02:28] <geronimo_> It s do that only on kubuntu but not on ubuntu ::
[02:28] <curtis_> geronimo_ It could just be the computer itself.  Slow computer, not much memory.  Lot of stuff.
[02:28] <Jucato> using the same browser?
[02:29] <doomnx2> "<Jucato> hm... I thought X was "Chi" pronounced as "ki"...."  no, u're wrong... X is pronounced as "he" (she, it)
[02:29] <Outtp> need help
[02:29] <geronimo_> no
[02:29] <Jucato> doomnx2: ok. I just thought :)
[02:29] <doomnx2> it's ok :)
[02:29] <geronimo_> I use konqueror on kubuntu
[02:29] <Outtp> can not setup wmware tools
[02:29] <Jucato> that could also affect speed...
[02:30] <Jucato> O.o
[02:30] <doomnx2> it's just... greek names with X in them usually give its place to Ch instead of H
[02:30] <stdin> curtis_: not sure about that, but you can change the bitrates in devede, that will make it smaller
[02:31] <doomnx2> so u say ki...
[02:31] <curtis_> stdin : thanks!  I'll mess around with it after I wake up somemore  LOL
[02:31] <Jucato> doomnx2: that's what I thought...
[02:35] <Outtp> i cant setup wmware tools on guest kubuntu
[02:35] <Deepy`-> hiho. ich bin ein linux-anfnger und komme noch nicht so ganz mit dem sound-system klar. amarok spielt nichts ab, aber systemsound funktionieren. wie kann ich das ndern?
[02:35] <Jucato> !de | Deepy`-
[02:35] <ubotu> Deepy`-: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:41] <ke> d
[02:42] <markelhas> hi ppl
[02:43] <markelhas> is there any tool to transfor avi to a dvd for kubuntu?
[02:43] <markelhas> i've a tv sow that i want to conver to a dvd is any easy tool to do this
[02:45] <markelhas> any tips?
[02:45] <Vladdy> k3b ?
[02:46] <markelhas> Vladdy hummm
[02:46] <ScarFreewill> \o/
[02:46] <markelhas> Vladdy didn't find any op for that, can u help me out!
[02:47] <Vladdy> file -> new -> dvd movey or something
[02:47] <Highor\a> Hello i get: Kernal Pancic - not syning: IO-apic timer doesn't boot with apic=debug amd semd a report, then try booting with the noapic option, but how do i try to start with the noapic option with the live cd
[02:47] <markelhas> Vladdy i've 24 ep and the subs and i want to make a dvd with them
[02:47] <markelhas> Vladdy hummmm, i don't think so
[02:47] <lied> hello
[02:48] <ScarFreewill> !feisty
[02:48] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <markelhas> Vladdy who can i set the subs to it?
[02:49] <Vladdy> actually i have no idea :p
[02:49] <markelhas> Vladdy ok.
[02:49] <Vladdy> you might check wiki or docs
[02:50] <lied> hm i have installed win xp and then copy back my MBR with dd. that was wrong. hm how can recover my mbr? :)
[02:50] <markelhas> Vladdy i think this task is no so easy as it seams
[02:50] <markelhas> lied fdisk /mbr
[02:51] <markelhas> lied boot it a dos disk and type fdisk /mbr
[02:51] <Highor\a> how can i change the bootprompt for my live CD? so i can add nosplash noapic irqpoll ?
[02:52] <markelhas> Highor\a i think u can tpye b or e to edit the bootprompt
[02:52] <lied> markelhas:  hm ok
[02:52] <lied> is there no solution with linux?
[02:52] <Highor\a> ok thnx markelhas
[02:53] <markelhas> lied dnd
[02:55] <eresanto> lied, run linux instalation with rescue parameter
[02:55] <eresanto> lied, on debian there is such an option
[02:56] <eresanto> then run grub/lilo and exit
[02:56] <dibo> huhu
[02:57] <dibo> kann mir mal jemand helfen geht um debconf??? bzw adept
[02:58] <Jucato> !de | dibo
[02:58] <ubotu> dibo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:58] <eresanto> dibo, was is die problem?
[02:58] <b0rt> hey there
[02:59] <b0rt> any1 knows where can i change the kde login screen?
[03:00] <abattoir> b0rt: install a program called kdmtheme, which then goes into KDE Control Center as a module....
[03:00] <abattoir> b0rt: then you can download existing themes, or make your own
[03:00] <b0rt> oh ic, where from?
[03:00] <b0rt> where do i download kde theme manager?
[03:00] <abattoir> b0rt: if you just want to change the background(wallpaper), you just need to replace a file though
[03:00] <Jucato> !changethemes | b0rt
[03:00] <ubotu> b0rt: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[03:00] <abattoir> !kdmtheme | b0rt
[03:00] <ubotu> b0rt: kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[03:01] <abattoir> b0rt: or just read that guide ;)
[03:01] <b0rt> thanks =)
[03:03] <b0rt> abattoir: i search for kde theme manager and i get: dekorator (is it that?)
[03:03] <Jucato> b0rt: kdmtheme
[03:03] <abattoir> b0rt: where are you searching?
[03:03] <b0rt> adept
[03:03] <Jucato> kdmtheme not kdetheme
[03:03] <b0rt> kk
[03:03] <_Johny> How can I uninstall all the graphics drivers?
[03:03] <_Johny> !drivers
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <_Johny> !codecs
[03:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <b0rt> abattoir: what extension for kdmthemes? kth?
[03:07] <abattoir> b0rt: no those are kde themes
[03:07] <b0rt> ic
[03:07] <abattoir> b0rt: they generally are .tar.gz archives which you open using the control center module
[03:07] <Jucato> b0rt: did you check the wiki page above? about changing themes?
[03:08] <abattoir> b0rt: did you read that guide?
[03:08] <sadfsadfsadfsdf> !fiesty
[03:08] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:08] <b0rt> ok ok sorry im reading now
[03:09] <HymnToLife> ScarFreewill1, "Feisty", not "Fiesty" ;)
[03:09] <b0rt> hahaha Fiesty sounds funny
[03:11] <b0rt> where do i check my kde version?
[03:11] <ScarFreewill1> HymnToLife: it seemed to have worked though
[03:11] <Jucato> b0rt: Help menu -> About KDE
[03:11] <Jucato> b0rt: in any KDE app
[03:11] <ScarFreewill1> sorry for typo
[03:11] <Jucato> the bot was smart enough to realize your typo :)
[03:12] <b0rt> uhm im so stupid
[03:12] <b0rt> 3.5.5
[03:12] <ScarFreewill1> !botsnack
[03:12] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:12] <ScarFreewill1> good boy/thing
[03:13] <abattoir> hello BluesKaj
[03:13] <b0rt> hah
[03:13] <ScarFreewill1> hi BluesKaj
[03:16] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, howdy :D
[03:16] <b0rt> as i said before, im stupid, so i cant find kdm in control center
[03:16] <b0rt> do i need a restart of X?
[03:16] <b0rt> cant find that on wiki page
[03:16] <ScarFreewill1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hdb
[03:16] <ScarFreewill1> /dev/hdb
[03:16] <ScarFreewill1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[03:16] <ScarFreewill1> Unable to read /dev/hdb
[03:17] <Jucato> !pastebin | ScarFreewill1
[03:17] <ubotu> ScarFreewill1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:17] <lu-bao> b0rt, nobodys stupid cause he or she cant find something :p
[03:17] <Jucato> b0rt: you install kdmtheme ?
[03:17] <b0rt> installed
[03:17] <ScarFreewill1> i can't get feisty to install :'(
[03:18] <Jucato> b0rt: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol". the go to System Administration -> KDM Theme Manager
[03:18] <b0rt> oh ok, i got confused
[03:18] <b0rt> thought kcontrol was config panel
[03:18] <b0rt> i have spanish lang installed so names dont match
[03:18] <Jucato> b0rt: nope. follow that guide, and you won't get lost
[03:18] <Jucato> aaah
[03:19] <Jucato> I don't speak spanish so I couldn't translate it. but the guide does say to press Alt+F2 and type in KControl
[03:19] <lu-bao> stupid line :(
[03:20] <Karol84PL> Does anyone could help me with uploading some music files onto my Motorola ROKR E1? I've just mounted it in a Dapper Drake, but I can't send any files onto this mobile phone. (Sorry for my English ...)
[03:20] <Skrot-> Where can I find freenx server and client packages for edgy?
[03:20] <thomax> edgy repositories
[03:20] <lu-bao> someone knows "Sony Ericsson K800i Cybershot" Handy ? :) if so please say me how to connect it with linux :)
[03:20] <thomax> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[03:21] <Skrot-> !freenx
[03:21] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:21] <Skrot-> thomax: There is no "freenx" package in edgy with universe, multiverse and restricted enabled
[03:22] <thomax> no sry my bad
[03:22] <thomax> just noticed
[03:22] <Skrot-> The dapper server version seems to work on edgy though
[03:28] <tfault> Is it possible to enable DRI in 32-bit chroot?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> hey folks what's the xserver-xorg command to reconfig X again ?
[03:30] <Jucato> !xconfig | BluesKaj
[03:30] <ubotu> BluesKaj: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:32] <snama> hey all i got a question
[03:33] <snama> how do you turn off the Eye-candy in the selection rectangle
[03:33] <snama> in kde
[03:34] <Jucato> snama: System Settings -> Appearance -> Style - Effects tab, Rubberband effect
[03:34] <snama> ok thanks
[03:34] <snama> it lags :(
[03:35] <b0rt> someone can tell me why an usb keyboard doesnt let you hit enter after system halt (for finishing halt)
[03:35] <adsfdsafsddfassa> !feisty
[03:35] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:35] <b0rt> and how to fix it (without buying a ps/2 one i wish)
[03:36] <snama> you can get an USB to PS/2 adapter
[03:36] <snama> i use one for my mouse
[03:36] <snama> only have 2 usb's
[03:36] <b0rt> snama: and is that working for any ps2 keyb/mice?
[03:36] <b0rt> i mean usb not ps/2
[03:36] <snama> working for my anyway
[03:36] <snama> mine*
[03:36] <ubuntu_> hello
[03:37] <snama> hi
[03:37] <b0rt> hi there
[03:37] <lu-bao> when you dont have enough usb ports you can use an usb hub :)
[03:37] <snama> damn i love linux and the way people help eachother
[03:37] <ubuntu_> okidoki
[03:37] <lu-bao> snama *g*
[03:37] <ubuntu_> well
[03:37] <b0rt> well i dont care about wasting the usb port but for not being able to halt properly
[03:37] <lu-bao> its not commercial thinking thats the way snama :)
[03:37] <snama> yeah i know
[03:37] <b0rt> propperly* ?
[03:38] <b0rt> my english stinks
[03:38] <lu-bao> b0rt, huh?
[03:38] <lu-bao> probably :)
[03:38] <snama> yea
[03:38] <snama> i understood what you meant anyway
[03:38] <snama> so the spelling doenst matter sometimes
[03:38] <lu-bao> *afk*
[03:39] <snama> doesnt*
[03:39] <lu-bao> snama, oh yes it does :) grammar ;)
[03:39] <b0rt> hehehe
[03:39] <lu-bao> but now afk :)
[03:39] <b0rt> grammar stinks
[03:39] <b0rt> =p
[03:39] <lu-bao> omfg let me go damn xDD
[03:39] <b0rt> i must learn german latin and italian
[03:39] <lu-bao> i am from germany :>
[03:39] <b0rt> cool
[03:39] <lu-bao> xD
[03:40] <b0rt> i wish i could work there
[03:40] <lu-bao> i dont think so :P
[03:40] <b0rt> =/
[03:40] <lu-bao> germany "today" is a bit mh....stupid X.x
[03:40] <b0rt> im a comp engineer trainee
[03:40] <lu-bao> b0rt, i see :)
[03:41] <b0rt> technology there must be better and cheaper
[03:41] <lu-bao> where?
[03:41] <b0rt> germany?
[03:41] <lu-bao> depends :)
[03:41] <lu-bao> i can say yeah it is but mh
[03:41] <b0rt> well japan should be better
[03:41] <lu-bao> japan is the best :P
[03:41] <lu-bao> yeah xD
[03:41] <b0rt> mh ?
[03:42] <lu-bao> japan has the best stuff and cheapest too :)
[03:42] <snama> "Weblog entries on some parts of Microsoft's MSN site in China using words such as "freedom", "democracy" and "demonstration" are being blocked."
[03:42] <DonMCN> Can somebody tell me how I am able to make a password under my Home folder only viewable if you enter my password?
[03:42] <snama> thats pretty old news
[03:42] <snama> bu anyway
[03:42] <DonMCN> How I can make this folder password-protected
[03:42] <lu-bao> snama,  lol o.o
[03:42] <lu-bao> china is stupid x.x *not humans but politics*
[03:43] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[03:43] <snama> what iam saying is that every school and college should stay away from microsoft
[03:43] <lu-bao> japan has much better tech so that what i have now in germany for my price i can get for half of price or less in japan :)
[03:43] <DonMCN> Can somebody tell me how I can password-protect a folder under my Home folder.
[03:44] <lu-bao> Jucato, there i am now xD
[03:44] <b0rt> DonMCN: i dunno sorry
[03:44] <Jucato> lu-bao: invite these friends of yours over. you can talk there about offtopic stuff. just don't get rough :)
[03:44] <b0rt> china is conquering commercial world here
[03:45] <Jucato> b0rt: that includes you ^^^
[03:45] <b0rt> chineese mafia everywhere
[03:45] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:45] <lu-bao> Jucato, theyre not my friends omg xD i just talk with them but theyre for theyr own :)
[03:45] <b0rt> sorry Jucato
[03:45] <Jucato> lu-bao: yeah, I know they're not your friends :)
[03:45] <b0rt> so what about kubuntu in china?
[03:45] <b0rt> =P
[03:45] <Jucato> I should have said "your friends"
[03:46] <lu-bao> Jucato, *gg*
[03:46] <doomnx2> guys
[03:46] <Jucato> b0rt: there's an Ubuntu Chinese LoCo (Local Community)
[03:46] <b0rt> lol
[03:46] <doomnx2> is there any site like download.com for linux?
[03:46] <DonMCN> Jucato do you have any idea how I can password-protect a folder under my Home folder?
[03:46] <b0rt> Loco = crazy (spanish)
[03:46] <Jucato> b0rt: I know. means the same here
[03:47] <b0rt> Jucato: where you from?
[03:47] <Jucato> DonMCN: sorry, no idea other than setting the permissions and not letting other users read the files
[03:47] <Jucato> b0rt: Philippines
[03:47] <b0rt> oh ic
[03:47] <Jucato> doomnx2: what do you mean?
[03:47] <lu-bao> b0rt, lol mafia x)
[03:48] <doomnx2> site that u browse and download software
[03:48] <doomnx2> categorised
[03:48] <doomnx2> cause i'm totally new here
[03:48] <Jucato> !installing
[03:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:48] <Jucato> er..
[03:48] <doomnx2> i don't even know the program names :P
[03:48] <Jucato> hold on a sec
[03:48] <doomnx2> just Kate, Amarok Kaffeine...
[03:49] <doomnx2> and Konqueror :P
[03:49] <b0rt> doomnx2 what kind of programs u need?
[03:49] <doomnx2> i don't know
[03:49] <b0rt> O.o
[03:49] <b0rt> o.O
[03:49] <doomnx2> in fact
[03:49] <b0rt> you dont know what u need?
[03:49] <doomnx2> i need everything
[03:49] <Jucato> doomnx2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[03:49] <b0rt> LoL
[03:49] <b0rt> go to adept and select all with no filter (lol)
[03:49] <doomnx2> cause i only have the programs that came with kubuntu installation
[03:50] <doomnx2> oh... no internet at home :S
[03:50] <b0rt> oh ic
[03:50] <Jucato> b0rt: nothing funny about it
[03:50] <doomnx2> i was just wondering
[03:50] <doomnx2> thanks guys :)
[03:51] <b0rt> Jucato:  huh sorry, just i dont think about doing that, cause i just like to know what i install
[03:51] <Jucato> doomnx2: the Download.com equivalent to Linux/Kubuntu would be the online repositories where we download and install packages/programs that have been built and tested for Kubuntu
[03:51] <Jucato> doomnx2: there's a Kubuntu Desktop Guide in the KDE Help Center (K Menu -> Help -> Kubuntu Documentation) that you can read offline
[03:52] <doomnx2> i guess there is no specific url to that... no? :S
[03:52] <Jucato> doomnx2: no. we don't install things in Linux that way
[03:52] <b0rt> but, if he doesnt have internet, how could he install from repositories?
[03:52] <doomnx2> what about this one? http://linux.softpedia.com/
[03:52] <Jucato> throw away your .exe habits :)
[03:52] <b0rt> hehehe
[03:52] <b0rt> indeed
[03:53] <doomnx2> lol
[03:53] <Jucato> having no internet connection probably complicates the problem. but it can be done. just don't know how
[03:53] <b0rt> huh a futurama theme ! :O
[03:53] <Jucato> something like making a CD repository
[03:53] <doomnx2> it's difficult after 6 years :P
[03:53] <Jucato> change is difficult, but the change is worth it :)
[03:54] <Jucato> doomnx2: I think that site only gives reviews and links to available software
[03:54] <Jucato> doomnx2: if you read the page I gave above, you'll have a better idea of how things are done on Linux
[03:54] <Jucato> (on Kubuntu/Ubuntu specifically)
[03:54] <doomnx2> it used to be a download server for windows software :S
[03:54] <lu-bao> doomnx2, huh? o.o
[03:55] <neocon> hi all
[03:55] <doomnx2> yeah i've read that only if u have internet connection, u install easily through apt-get or synaptic or sth :P
[03:56] <neocon> anyone from Spain?
[03:56] <Jucato> doomnx2: that's a bit true for Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[03:57] <Jucato> doomnx2: but other Linux distros offer mutiple CD's to install software.
[03:57] <Jucato> doomnx2: if you have the DVD version, you can also use that to install some software offline
[03:57] <lu-bao> dvd version is alot better :)
[03:57] <doomnx2> i only got the cd version
[03:57] <doomnx2> from greek PC Magazine
[03:57] <lu-bao> you dont need internet for install ^^
[03:58] <Jucato> no, not to install the system
[03:58] <Jucato> but to install other packages/software
[03:58] <b0rt> Jucato: sorry for offtopic again, but could you tell me where to register my nick on this irc-network?
[03:58] <lu-bao> yep :)
[03:58] <Jucato> b0rt: /msg nickserv register <password>
[03:58] <Jucato> !register
[03:58] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:58] <Jucato> for more info ^^^
[03:58] <Mena> Testing the new realese is good for just developers i mean it get a much better result with them ...or its okay if any one test it ...i am talking a bout the result with th both
[03:58] <doomnx2> (http://linux.softpedia.com/) look at the top, browse categories... i wanted something like that :)
[03:59] <spawn57> is there a way to use the trackball for scrolling?
[04:00] <doomnx2> can u bypass sony arcoss protection in linux?
[04:00] <doomnx2> in/on/at dunno what the correct preposition for linux :P
[04:00] <dromer> how can I make a personal 404-page?
[04:00] <Jucato> Mena: you can help development by testing the Herds/Alpha and Beta releases. and filing bugs or talking to the devs
[04:01] <Vyro> Is it good idea to buy cedega?Is it working fine? (I have Radeon X1600,amd athlon 64 3500+ and 1GB of  ram)
[04:01] <doomnx2> are linux distributions incompatible?
[04:02] <Mena> Juctao, ok i will download it and test :) and i hope i got a good result
[04:02] <dromer> Vyro: I've tried it, but only for 2 games (battlefield and counterstrike) haven't looked into it fulle. performance goes down a bit. and in the case of bf2: punkbuster-support doesn't work yet
[04:02] <Mena> get*
[04:02] <Jucato> doomnx2: binary incompatible usually. but not always
[04:02] <Jucato> doomnx2: there are some packages that are made for a particular "base" type of distribution (like .deb for Debian based and .rpm for Red Hat based) that "could" work on other distros
[04:03] <doomnx2> cause i can read about .rpm packages or sth that don't exist on ububtu
[04:03] <Jucato> doomnx2: but the rule of thumb is "install packages made for your distro for best results"
[04:03] <doomnx2> yeah that was what i meant
[04:03] <Jucato> doomnx2: ah. you can't use .rpm packages directly in Debian-based distros, and vice versea
[04:03] <Jucato> versa*
[04:04] <Jucato> although there are "ways" to conver the .rpm to .deb, it's highly unrecommended
[04:04] <doomnx2> the bad thing is that i need internet or my linux is more like to useless :(
[04:04] <snama> how can i activate "log in as root" in KDE?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> hmmm... tried to change screen resolution ..now i'm stuck at the prompt with "no screens"
[04:04] <Jucato> !sudo | snama
[04:04] <ubotu> snama: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:05] <doomnx2> does this thing work? http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/PCSX2-2079.shtml
[04:05] <Jucato> snama: that page has it all. but generally, there's no need for you to log in as root in KDE on Kubuntu
[04:05] <BluesKaj> !init
[04:05] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:05] <snama> yeah coz i need to change the permissions on one of my harddrives
[04:06] <doomnx2> omg i look forward to summer...
[04:06] <doomnx2> i am sure i will love linux
[04:07] <doomnx2> ok guys i g2g now
[04:07] <doomnx2> thanks for everything
[04:07] <doomnx2> keep up being the best linux community  ;D
[04:07] <doomnx2> bb'
[04:07] <snama> bye
[04:07] <Mena> !chmod
[04:07] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:08] <Mena> snama, go to pages and see it a bout permisisons
[04:09] <dromer> can anyone help me setup custom 404's on my apache2 server?
[04:10] <bxnp> clear
[04:10] <markelhas> hi ppl need a tip, how can i add subs to a avi files in kubuntu!
[04:11] <Mena> Jucato, how much of Herds/alpha they realese in testing
[04:11] <markelhas> i've a avi and sub and want to conver to a dvd, and i think i've to put the subs in the avi files, is that right!?
[04:11] <Jucato> Mena: what do you mean?
[04:12] <Mena> Jucato, i mean do they realese many cds of the beta for testing
[04:12] <Mena> Jucato, Herd 1  herd 2 herd4 ...
[04:12] <Jucato> they always release CD images
[04:13] <Jucato> they don't release, in the sense of shipping them, though
[04:13] <curtis__> what IRC client do most of you use?
[04:13] <Mena> Juctao, ok
[04:14] <markelhas> does any one knows about this!
[04:16] <markelhas> ppl need help to creat this dvd , help me out!
[04:17] <BluesKaj> Jucato: fatal IO error 104 on xserver ":0.0"... i have no screens and X won't start...all I tried to do was change the screen resolution
[04:17] <Jucato> sorry, no idea
[04:18] <BluesKaj> I tried the reconfig xserver-xorg thing , but that doesn't do anything
[04:19] <Mena> Jucato, What is the use of recovery mod
[04:19] <curtis__> markelhas : what is the quesiton.  I came in late
[04:19] <Mena> i have on the booot menu
[04:19] <Jucato> Mena: boot you into recovery mode (root, no X)
[04:20] <Mena> Jucato, ok so does it recover the system ad the first run or i recover manaully
[04:20] <Mena> as*
[04:20] <curtis__> Mena : did you edit xorg.conf
[04:20] <Jucato> it doesn't do anything except boot you into the command line as root
[04:20] <Jucato> you have to do everything else yourself
[04:21] <Mena> curtis__, no i didnt do any thing
[04:21] <Mena> curtis__, :)
[04:21] <curtis__> Mena sorry.  Wrong person :)
[04:21] <markelhas> curtis__:  i've a avi and sub and want to conver to a dvd, and i think i've to put the subs in the avi files, is that right!?
[04:21] <Mena> curtis__, no problem :)
[04:22] <markelhas> curtis__: i'm using tovid to do this, but don't how to set the subs
[04:22] <curtis__> markelhas : first you need to make the avi again with the subtitles
[04:22] <markelhas> curtis__: sucks, any tool to do that!?
[04:22] <curtis__> I have used VOBSub for this but I don't know about a Linux program
[04:23] <Mena> Jucato, can i install the test realese with current ver i had i mean if i had an empty partition
[04:23] <curtis__> markelhas : it's not that hard really.  Hang on and I'll get you a link to a guide
[04:23] <markelhas> curtis__: i only in linux :P
[04:23] <curtis__> markelhas : might run under wine but haven't tried it
[04:23] <markelhas> curtis__: oki, i googling but didn't find any good
[04:24] <Mena> Jucato, With out removing the cerrunt
[04:24] <Jucato> Mena: yes. just install as if you are dual booting. in this case, multi booting
[04:24] <Mena> Jucato, okay good
[04:25] <Mena> Jucato, Maybey i will give it a try
[04:26] <curtis__> OK!  I acedintaley changed a setting on Konversation and it crashed.  Now the crash handler keeps poping up and won't go away.  Any suggestions?
[04:27] <Jucato> curtis__: go to ~/.kde/share/config/ look for konversationrc and rename/move/delete it
[04:27] <Mena> ohh yes this directory is very helping :D
[04:28] <BluesKaj> i don't get it...how can just changing the scrn resolution cause X to disappear ?
[04:28] <Mena> i had a crash with the metabar in konquer and i just delet the file in ~/.kde/share/config/ heheh :)
[04:29] <curtis__> so.... after deleting this file, does that mena the app is no longer available?
[04:29] <Mena> curtis, no the metabar is working now
[04:29] <Jucato> curtis__: it just means that the app will go back to its default settings
[04:29] <Mena> fine :)
[04:30] <curtis__> Jucato : groovy!  thanks!
[04:30] <Jucato> curtis__: konversationrc contains the configurations you have made
[04:30] <Mena> !xorg
[04:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <curtis__> Jucato : ah!  good information there.  Thanks!  Now...how do you make the window where you type bigger in Konversation?  That's what I was trying to do and screwed it up :p
[04:31] <Jucato> what window?
[04:31] <Mena> BluesKaj, just go here http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto try to find answer :)
[04:31] <Jucato> the single line text field where you type messages?
[04:32] <BluesKaj> mena, I'm at the prompt ...i have no screen
[04:32] <Jucato> did you reboot?
[04:32] <Mena> BluesKaj, ohhh ok
[04:34] <BluesKaj> gonna ctrl alt F2 ..brb
[04:36] <curtis__> Jucato : yeah that window
[04:36] <curtis__> markelhas : you still there?
[04:37] <Jucato> curtis__: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> General -> check "Input box expands with text"
[04:37] <Mena> i realy love ubuntu but its problem its have a confilcts with kubuntu apps
[04:37] <BluesKaj> Mena:  i don't care about fixing my scrn resolution right now , cuz i have no screen :) , but it would be nice if i could get x working again to get the screen back
[04:38] <Mena> BluesKaj, i am realy would hlep you but i dont have nuch info ...i hope you the solution
[04:38] <Mena> much*
[04:39] <BluesKaj> or is there anyone who can help ... tried to change scrn resolution and when i rebooted X wouldn't start.
[04:39] <Mena> get*
[04:39] <curtis_> BluesKaj, did you edit the xorg.conf or something?
[04:39] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the reconfigure probably made a backup of your xorg.conf
[04:40] <BluesKaj> curtis , i went thru the xserver reconfig after X crashed , but it din't help
[04:40] <ricmik> Hello! Any good ideas for a IDV3 tag editor/file renamer?
[04:41] <curtis_> hmmm....Like Jucato said, you should have a backup of your xorg.conf.  If not, then you should be able to edit it enough to get a screen back
[04:42] <BluesKaj> Jucato:  how does the backup help tho ? or is it blocking me ?
[04:42] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the backup helps by letting you revert to a previous xorg.conf setting
[04:43] <curtis_> markelhas you still here?  I found the info you need
[04:43] <kraut> moin
[04:44] <Mena> How to change my passs in freenode
[04:44] <Mena> i forget it *
[04:44] <Mena> or maybe some else regs with my name
[04:45] <Mena> i dont no
[04:45] <BluesKaj> ok , how do i revert to the backup dir?
[04:45] <Jucato> BluesKaj: do you see the backed up xorg.conf?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> where would i see that?
[04:46] <Jucato> in /etc/X11/
[04:46] <curtis_> BluesKaj : in that directory you should see xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.2 etc...
[04:47] <_Johny> !pastebin |_johny
[04:47] <curtis_> I have 8 of them since I was screwing around with mine for a few days LOL
[04:47] <julle> How do i recieve things from a cvs?
[04:47] <Jucato> or actually, xorg.conf.yearmonthdatetime (numbers)
[04:48] <julle> do i need to download software to kubuntu to make it work?
[04:48] <Jucato> julle: yes, you need to download cervisia
[04:48] <curtis_> Julle : cervisia might be what you need
[04:48] <curtis_> ah!!!  Jucato to the rescue  :p
[04:48] <julle> ok thanks alto
[04:48] <Jucato> but getting stuff from cervisia means you're going to be compiling stuff
[04:48] <ScarFreewill> !feisty
[04:48] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:49] <BluesKaj> I can't see any dirs ... they won't respond
[04:49] <Jucato> BluesKaj: cd /etc/X11/
[04:49] <Jucato> ?
[04:49] <julle> does cervisia got gui ? or is it text based?
[04:49] <curtis_> BluesKaj, if you cd to the directory you see nothing?
[04:50] <curtis_> Julle, yes it has a GUI
[04:50] <julle> curtis_: ok thx
[04:50] <curtis_> Julle : no problem  http://cervisia.kde.org/
[04:51] <BluesKaj> I cd to it but it doesn't show anything...it says it'd a dir , that's all
[04:51] <ricmik> are there any good smb howtos? I would like to mount a smb-partition at startup, but I need to put my password in some kind of file..
[04:51] <Jucato> julle: but mostly text based
[04:52] <curtis_> BluesKaj : if you cd to the directory and then do "dir" does it show anything?
[04:53] <BluesKaj> yes Jucato, a list of files
[04:53] <Jucato> curtis_: "dir"? don't you mean "ls"? :D
[04:54] <Jucato> BluesKaj: do you see files with xorg.conf.(some numbers)?
[04:54] <Yuma> Hello.
[04:54] <curtis_> Jucato : does the same thing for me :p
[04:54] <Mena> dir open the dir :D
[04:54] <Jucato> heh yeah. but ls is the proper one :)
[04:54] <BluesKaj> dir worked...I'm at the prmpt ...yes numbers
[04:55] <curtis_> BluesKaj : now you see all the xorg.conf files?
[04:55] <Jucato> BluesKaj: those numbers after xorg.conf. indicate the date and time the backups were made
[04:55] <Jucato>  yyyymmddhhmmss like 20070224------
[04:56] <curtis_> BluesKaj : you know what I would do at this point.  I would copy all those files to your home directory somewhere.
[04:56] <Mena> What is the best resolution for best view
[04:57] <BluesKaj> curtis_:  i can't get to my home dir ...I'm at a prompt running irssi
[04:57] <curtis_> Mena : depends on your graphics card and monitor.  I dig 1280x1024
[04:57] <Yuma> Is it possible to have 'nodeadkeys' activated on an application, but not in the others?
[04:57] <curtis_> BluesKaj : if you can get to /etc/X11 then you can get to /home/username  right?
[04:57] <Mena> curtis, ok
[04:57] <curtis_> or am I WAAAYY off on that?
[04:58] <geronimo_> why my web connection lag with kde ?
[04:58] <BluesKaj> how does that get X back
[04:59] <Jucato> curtis_: bit way off...
[04:59] <curtis_> BluesKaj : copying the files?  It won't but everytime you write over xorg.conf, it is going to create a new file.  And instead of fighting with it, you know that one of those config files worked ;)
[04:59] <BluesKaj> I'm not running kde ...I'm at the prompt, trying to get back into X and kde
[05:00] <Jucato> all he needs is to identify the last working xorg.conf file and rename it to xorg.conf
[05:00] <curtis_> Jucato: how is he getting to /etc/X11 then?  I think I came in a bit too late :p
[05:00] <Jucato> sudo cp xorg.conf.backupversion xorg.conf
[05:00] <Jucato> curtis_: command line?
[05:01] <bonbonthejon> geronimo_: how is the connection lagging
[05:01] <curtis_> OK.  Not real important I guess but all I was saying is, copying the files because one of them worked at one time.  Everytime he writes over xorg it will make another backup file.  Kind of fighting with it.  Anyway...
[05:02] <geronimo_> a web page take a while to load
[05:02] <geronimo_> on gnome I haven t this pb
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> geronimo_: konqueror, firefox, other??
[05:03] <geronimo_> konqueror and firefox
[05:03] <Jucato> curtis_: only the xorg.conf gets change. copying all the files might be a bit too much
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> geronimo_: do both go slow? if so, does firefox go slow under gnome and kde?
[05:03] <kalagio> hallo everybody
[05:03] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Good morning.  Looks like you b0rked your video?
[05:03] <curtis_> Jucato : yeah.  I gotcha ;)
[05:03] <BluesKaj> but why should i use a backup file that was created during the so called fix i was doing when editing xserver reconfigure xorg ...that one doesn't work
[05:04] <kalagio> does anybody how to enable sound at aver tv go 007 tv tuner?
[05:04] <Mena> !ipv6
[05:04] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:04] <geronimo_> On kde all thing who use the web is slow but on gnome all work well
[05:04] <BluesKaj> yup, jhutchins  i did something ...like just trying to change scrn res
[05:04] <Jucato> BluesKaj: when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, a backup of the old xorg.conf is made, with the filename xorg.conf.yyyymmddhhmss (year, month date hour minutes seconds)
[05:04] <_Johny> Hey, Is there any way to uninstall all the graphics drivers?
[05:05] <jhutchins> _Johny: Yes.
[05:05] <BluesKaj> ok guys ...gotta take a qiuck break ...bb in a few
[05:05] <jhutchins> _Johny: You'll be left with command line, but it can be done.
[05:05] <kalagio> how caaaaan i enable sound at tv tuner
[05:05] <Jucato> BluesKaj: so if you after you reconfigured xserver-xorg and the new configuration doesn't work, you go back to the older working configuration by renaming the backup to xorg.conf again
[05:05] <fuel> embedded terminal in kubuntu is not working ...
[05:05] <jhutchins> _Johny: What are you after?
[05:05] <fuel> any ideas how to get it back ?? (F8 does not invoke embedded terminal)
[05:06] <geronimo_> adept updater is slow too
[05:06] <bonbonthejon> geronimo_: have you disabled ipv6, if appropriate
[05:06] <jhutchins> fuel: What does Alt-F2, konsole give you?
[05:06] <Jucato> fuel: check Settings ->  Configure Shortcuts
[05:06] <geronimo_> bonbonthejon: How I can do this ?
[05:06] <bonbonthejon> !ipv6 | geronimo_
[05:06] <ubotu> geronimo_: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:06] <fuel> alt+f2 gets me konsole alright......
[05:06] <geronimo_> thx =)
[05:07] <Jucato> fuel: did you check the shorcuts for Konqueror?
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> how would I refer to a local css file in a website
[05:07] <_Johny> jhutchins: Just messed up something with the drivers, all the engines except "mplayer" make my videos freeze for few seconds
[05:08] <kalagio> does anybody know how to enable sound at aver tv go 007 tv tuner?
[05:08] <fuel> Jucato: great :) it works now....
[05:08] <kalagio> i have image but not sound
[05:11] <KaoticEvil> anyone got a moment or 2 to help with a wifi problem?
[05:11] <Mena_> Okay Friends bye bye ........Bless You all
[05:11] <Mena_> :)
[05:12] <kalagio> excuse me can anybody help me
[05:15] <_Johny> jhutchins: if you have some time write me please the command for purging all those drivers.
[05:15] <ricmik> Is there some way that a regular user can have access to do root-stuff without sudoing?
[05:15] <octo777> Duuuuuude, can anyone tell me how the new fiesty partition utility got broken
[05:15] <octo777> it worked fine in edgy
[05:15] <octo777> can i report bugs here?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> ok gents ..back .. now what's the command for changing back to a previous xorg.conf ?  I have the numbers (date , time, etc ) that Jucato  referred to
[05:18] <ezu> is there a amd64 version of kubuntu?
[05:19] <octo777> can someone tell me the most efective way to report a bug, do have to use launchpad?
[05:19] <octo777> yes there is an amd64 version of Kubuntu
[05:19] <BluesKaj> jhutchins: ..how do I revert to a previous xorg.conf ?
[05:20] <octo777> you can just copy the saved backup xorg.conf that you either backed up, or that kubuntu backed up as you saved a new one witht he new changes
[05:21] <ezu> eheh i was just not reading everything, thanks
[05:21] <octo777> if you save the old on as maybe xorg.conf.backup, you can then from the command line type..... cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[05:21] <BluesKaj> octo777:  i have to do in the CLI as I'm at a prompt ..no X
[05:22] <octo777> can you hit alt-f1 to go to a prompt
[05:22] <octo777> if you x wont boot, you should be able to alt-f1 to get to a prompt you can log in at
[05:23] <BluesKaj> I'm at a prompt F2 ...runing in irssi at F1
[05:23] <BluesKaj> tty1
[05:24] <octo777> well, i myself am a bit new to Linux, so in any unusual situations, i will get lost lol
[05:24] <octo777> i would say, if you can get a command line anywhere lol, you can copy the old one as the new one
[05:25] <BluesKaj> i just wan to know what the command is to rever to a previous xorg.conf in the CLI ...I have the previous one on tty2
[05:25] <octo777> sorry for the stupid question, but what is CLI again ?
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> octo777: command line interface
[05:26] <octo777> lol
[05:26] <octo777> k
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: "cp xorg.conf.123456 xorg.conf"
[05:26] <octo777> jdo you know the name of the backed up xorg.conf you have>
[05:26] <octo777> ?
[05:26] <octo777> what bonbon said
[05:27] <octo777> cp  backed_up_name xorg.conf
[05:27] <BluesKaj> bonbonthejon: ok thx ..gonna try that :)
[05:28] <octo777> can i report bugs here to anyone?
[05:28] <bonbonthejon> !bugs
[05:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:29] <octo777> thanks
[05:36] <BluesKaj> hmmm  cp:target xorg.conf is nor a directory
[05:36] <BluesKaj> err not
[05:37] <sff> woot finaly got 7.04 herd3 working :)
[05:38] <sff> is there any how to pages for 7.04 atm?
[05:39] <willy> que onda
[05:40] <smoggyCityG> hi, does anyone know how to disable a laptop from suspending when the lid closes?  there are no settings in the bios, and my dmesg says apm is replaced by acpi
[05:40] <BluesKaj> bonbonthejon,octo777 did you see my last entry?
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: are you in /etc/X11?
[05:42] <BluesKaj> obviously "cp " is the wrong command
[05:42] <BluesKaj> no I'm not
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: open konsole, "cd /etc/X11"
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: then "sudo cp xorg.cong.12345 xorg.conf"
[05:43] <BluesKaj> i tried it in /etc/x11.. same message
[05:43] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: ok, change cp to mv
[05:43] <geronimo_> How can see the windows files ?
[05:43] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | geronimo_
[05:44] <ubotu> geronimo_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:44] <geronimo_> thx =)
[05:44] <echosyp_> fglrx is giving me a V_BIOS error in my Xorg log
[05:44] <echosyp_> what does that mean?
[05:45] <sff> !beryl
[05:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:46] <echosyp_> i don't care about beryl
[05:46] <echosyp_> i want to know about fglrx errors
[05:46] <echosyp_> this one specifically
[05:48] <fairman> What is the program "slocate" when i am trying tu upgrade throught terminal, slocate is trying to update yourself..., what is it?
[05:48] <sff> that was for my own information
[05:48] <jsiris> smoggyCityG: left click on the thing that looks like a battery in the place where the apps icons are. toolbar something.
[05:48] <fairman> "....i am trying to upgrade ..."
[05:48] <kalagio>         ?
[05:49] <BluesKaj> bonbonthejon: i'm in /etc/X11 ..neither mv or cp works ...'xorg.conf' is not a directory
[05:49] <nixternal> fairman: it is the same as GNU locate, just much more secure
[05:49] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: put a "./" in front of each file
[05:49] <fairman> nixternal: ok, what is GNU locate? It is only some security program?
[05:50] <nixternal> locate is a utility that allows you to "locate" files on your machine at the command line
[05:50] <fairman> ok, thanks
[05:50] <nixternal> no problem
[05:50] <NDPTAL85> Why do the Kubuntu forms now require a password to view?
[05:50] <echosyp_> oh
[05:51] <nixternal> fairman: in Konqueror, in the address bar you can type  man:/locate  and it will provide you more information on the app
[05:51] <smoggyCityG> jsiris: thanks!!
[05:51] <nixternal> NDPTAL85: don't know, we don't run those forums
[05:51] <rEvolution27> hi all
[05:51] <nixternal> hiya rEvolution27
[05:51] <jsiris> smoggyCityG: ur welcome.
[05:52] <desi007> I just installed synaptic is it safe to uninstall adept now? Will synaptic do automatic updates for me
[05:52] <nixternal> desi007: I don't know if synaptic catches the updates in Kubuntu like Adept does
[05:52] <desi007> I see
[05:53] <nixternal> desi007: there is no need to uninstall adept really, the footprint is quite small as is synaptic
[05:53] <rEvolution27> I want to set up a home server using linux... I'm not so experienced... can somebody point me in the right direction?
[05:53] <desi007> nixternal: ok I will keep it
[05:53] <nixternal> rEvolution27: sure, what do you wnat to do with this server?
[05:53] <b0rt> hey could any1 tell me where to set utf8 codification?
[05:53] <b0rt> to be able to see special characters
[05:54] <nixternal> desi007: at least kill the adept_notifier and what not running in the back ground to see if synaptic catches the udpates or not
[05:54] <rEvolution27> just store all the data from the computers in the house so it's easily accesible and if it's possible share that data over the internet
[05:54] <nixternal> rEvolution27: https://help.ubuntu.com/   <-- There is a Server Guide there depending on the version you are going to use
[05:55] <snikker> how cai change te applications associate to special key of the keyboard? (i.e. "Media" button associated with xmms, on so on).
[05:55] <nixternal> if you use 6.06, click the tab up top, and so on
[05:55] <rEvolution27> i have edgy
[05:55] <b0rt> please where do i change the character codification?
[05:55] <bonbonthejon> rEvolution27: if you search for perfect ubuntu isp, there is a great web page that should be one of the first hits
[05:56] <rEvolution27> k i'll check it out
[05:56] <nixternal> rEvolution27: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html   is an updated version of the server guide that is still being worked on as well
[05:56] <sb9> how do i see whether i have an ubuntu installed ?
[05:56] <nixternal> rEvolution27: then there is also http://www.howtoforge.net that has some Ubuntu server write ups
[05:56] <rEvolution27> yes I got to the howtoforge page already ;)
[05:57] <rEvolution27> thanks
[05:57] <nixternal> sb9: log out and try to change to the gnome session
[05:57] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:57] <watashi> can somebody tell me how I can choose the default locale? Before dapper you would use dpkg-reconfigure and you would get a screen asking you to choose the default locale for the system. Not anymore. dpkg-reconfigure just generates the locales, it doesn't ask you to choose the default locale for the system. :-(
[05:57] <jsiris> slow-motion: lo
[05:57] <sb9> its a server installation, no x
[05:58] <slow-motion> hi jsiris
[05:58] <nixternal> wad3: KMenu -> System Settings -> Regional ??
[05:58] <rEvolution27> but I don't really want such a full fledged web server
[05:58] <rEvolution27> more like a home LAN server
[05:58] <nixternal> rEvolution27: the Ubuntu Server Guide should have some good info in it
[05:58] <rEvolution27> ok
[05:58] <nixternal> also use https://help.ubuntu.com/community and search there as well as the forums
[06:00] <b0rt> please where do i change western to unicode?
[06:02] <rEvolution27> i'm installing kubuntu on a laptop and it seems to be stuck on the partition stage (It's auto resizing the partition) What should i do?
[06:03] <snikker> sb9: what do u wat know?
[06:03] <b0rt> =/
[06:04] <sb9> fast way to see what system i have rhel4 or dapper or breezy something
[06:04] <snikker> sb9: cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:05] <sb9> thx
[06:05] <snikker> sb9: np
[06:06] <rEvolution27> would it be safe to restart? or should I leave it for a bit longer (it's been there for about 15 mins)
[06:07] <jhutchins> rEvolution27: Resizing a partition with data on it can take a couple of hours.
[06:07] <jhutchins> rEvolution27: I don't know what your hardware specs are, how much data you've got, or how badly fragmented it was, but killing it now pretty much means dead hard drive.
[06:08] <rEvolution27> oh really hours?
[06:08] <jhutchins> Yeah.  If it's a slower system, a big drive, and lots of fragmented data.
[06:08] <kishore_> Hi there.. I am running feisty and have problems with bluwtooth pairing
[06:08] <rEvolution27> crap forgot to defrag
[06:08] <jhutchins> rEvolution27: Is there evidence of disk activity?
[06:08] <kishore_> i dont get the pairing dialog.. can anyone help?
[06:09] <rEvolution27> yeh it's doing something
[06:09] <jhutchins> I'd let 'er run then.
[06:09] <rEvolution27> oh it's done! lol
[06:09] <jhutchins> Hey, there ya go!
[06:09] <kishore_> !kdebluetooth
[06:09] <rEvolution27> recognized two extra drives.. how neat
[06:09] <ubotu> kdebluetooth: KDE Bluetooth Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.99+1.0beta1-12ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1196 kB, installed size 4016 kB
[06:10] <kishore_> !kbluepin
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbluepin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <kishore_> anyone else having trouble with bluetooth pairing?
[06:13] <geronimo_> -_-'
[06:14] <geronimo_> I had instelled wine and it say me that it isn t in /usr/bin
[06:15] <geronimo_> and it s in /usr/bin :/
[06:17] <sharp15> i had enabled most of the available repositories and not changed anything, is there a reason synaptic would suddenly fail to update?
[06:18] <sharp15> no failure message, just hangs when trying to download updated package lists.
[06:18] <kishore_> sharp15, try using the comnand line alternate
[06:19] <kishore_> "sudo apt-get update"
[06:19] <sharp15> kishore_: ah. thank you.
[06:22] <sharp15> now it's tryin to connect to archive.ubuntu.com after failing to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[06:22] <macrozzy> hallo leute
[06:22] <sharp15> it has been sitting there for about a minute.
[06:22] <Highor> hi is there a guide how to install linux on a HDD were windows already exist
[06:22] <macrozzy> is anybody from german
[06:22] <posingaspopular> Highor: yes, its online
[06:22] <deathnote> how do u list all the channels in this IRC?
[06:23] <posingaspopular> let me find the guide
[06:23] <sharp15> deathnote: which irc client?
[06:23] <deathnote> konversation
[06:23] <macrozzy> have a prob
[06:23] <posingaspopular> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[06:24] <Highor> k thnx
[06:24] <macrozzy> is a great help site
[06:24] <geronimo__> How can I run windows file with an amd64 ?
[06:24] <sharp15> kishore_: the command line update has started producing connection time out errors.  did the repos get moved? (failed to connect to archive.ubuntu.com)
[06:26] <deathnote> how do u list all the channels in this IRC?
[06:27] <sharp15> deathnote: in xchat it's a menu item, but I don't use konversation. (currently using irssi)
[06:27] <geronimo__> ./list
[06:28] <|lostbyte|> does intel PRO wireless 2200G support 802.11b ?
[06:28] <sharp15> |lostbyte|: yes.
[06:28] <|lostbyte|> sharp15, thanks..
[06:29] <sharp15> |lostbyte|: i'm fairly certain it does. mine does. i don't know if there are multiple versions.
[06:30] <|lostbyte|> thing is my cell support b, so i wanted to know before hand if it would work..
[06:31] <sharp15> has anyone in here refreshed their package list today?
[06:32] <desi007> how do I make some programs that I want to start up at startup?
[06:33] <sharp15> desi007: start up as in login or system start?
[06:33] <desi007> whenI login I need kopte and knetworkmanager runniing rather then me doing it all the time
[06:35] <sharp15> desi007: put the command-line command in a bash script and drop it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:35] <sharp15> the server must've been taken down and i missed the post.
[06:36] <desi007> sharp15: thanks
[06:36] <kishore_> sharp15, sorry i wasn't at my desk for a while now..
[06:36] <kishore_> it works here.. so maybe just wait for a while
[06:37] <sharp15> kishore_: this is the second day.
[06:37] <sharp15> kishore_: yesterday I assumed it was a temporary outage and would try again today.  decieded to ask when the problem persisted.
[06:37] <fran> Sorry for my ignorance, besides boot logo, distro name and such things... Are there important differences between installing kde-desktop in ubuntu or install directly from a kubuntu cd?
[06:37] <kishore_> try and change the mirror
[06:38] <kishore_> i use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:38] <kishore_> its still slow
[06:38] <sharp15> kishore_: it started there. then moved to archive.ubuntu.com when the connection wasn't able to complete.
[06:39] <jsiris> fran: not really.
[06:40] <fran> jsiris: I see... Thank you very much
[06:40] <jsiris> fran: np
[06:41] <sharp15> kishore_: it's showing this: [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.89.6)]  [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.89.6)]   earlier that last ip ended in an 8, but it's still not getting anywhere.
[06:42] <ira_> any one good with amarok?
[06:42] <ira_> says I am streaming but i hear nothing
[06:43] <Ash-Fox> !opera
[06:43] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:44] <ira_> !amarok
[06:44] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[06:45] <kishore__> Sorry.. my system crashed.. had to restart..
[06:46] <kishore__> sharp15, did you try a mirror?
[06:46] <sharp15> kishore_: is there a mirror list somewhere, i'm not used to ubuntu.
[06:47] <rEvolution27> I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless network for the first time.. It's set to automatic
[06:47] <rEvolution27> All it says is connection failed
[06:47] <rEvolution27> There's no password on the router
[06:47] <kishore__> there is a tool online to generate sources.list
[06:48] <kishore__> sharp15, try http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:50] <fadey> hello, everyone. Does anyone know if it is possible to clean the system from rubbish (dependencies that are not needed anymore)
[06:52] <kishore__> fadey, with caution you could do "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[06:54] <Gast902> bekomm die kubuntu cd64 nichtauf mein nb gestartet...
[06:54] <Gast902> kstart will nicht starten
[06:55] <HymnToLife> !de | Gast902
[06:55] <ubotu> Gast902: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:56] <jsiris> fadey: apt-get clean OR autoclean
[06:56] <jsiris> doh.
[06:56] <sharp15> kishore__: that sources site produced the same list of sources i'm using now.  i can't get a connection to *.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <_eMaX_> hi all
[06:57] <_eMaX_> anyone here uses beryl with an ati card and kde?
[06:57] <jsiris> _eMaX_: did, it s hell.
[06:57] <sharp15> _eMaX_: i do. but not on kubuntu.
[06:57] <kishore__> rEvolution27, does it help rebooting the router?
[06:57] <kishore__> or connecting with wireless assistant?
[06:58] <_eMaX_> If I do not use kwin (kde) as window manager, I do not see any window titles etc.
[06:58] <sharp15> _eMaX_: you need to have emerald installed.
[06:58] <_eMaX_> I have
[06:59] <_eMaX_> I don't see any effects except that the click responsiveness is super bad
[06:59] <kishore__> sharp15, are you behind a proxy?
[06:59] <_eMaX_> I see the beryl-manager in my kicker tray
[06:59] <sharp15> kishore__: nope. direct connection to the net (except the router.) but nothing's been changed since my last update.
[06:59] <MarkC> hi everyone, i need some help. everytime i configure the theme lipstik in kde styles and press ok, the options i chose are not respected, when i apply and when i check configure again, the options reset to defaults, anyone know how i could fix this?
[07:00] <MarkC> i just want to disable the menu stripes...
[07:00] <_eMaX_> the process "Xgl" constantly eats up like 100 % cpu
[07:00] <sharp15> _eMaX_: bring up the menu for the beryl gem (right click i think), select beryl as window manager.
[07:00] <_eMaX_> then I have no window decorators
[07:01] <_eMaX_> like title bar
[07:01] <kishore__> sharp15, can you try "ping archive.ubuntu.com" at the terminal?
[07:01] <sharp15> _eMaX_: then tell it to reload the window decorator.
[07:02] <sharp15> kishore__: why would iptables suddenly be getting in the way? it produces this: "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[07:02] <mantan> I have seriose problem. I installed Kubuntu 6.06 sometime last night and I repartioned the drive, but I can't find the windows partition. It won't show it in the boot list and when I looked at the disks and filesystems there was only 3 partitions
[07:02] <MarkC> 
[07:02] <MarkC> _eMaX_: i have that prob too, it seems beryl isnt ready for kde yet in feisty.
[07:02] <MarkC> are you using feisty?
[07:03] <kishore__> sharp15, that is very strange
[07:03] <MarkC> everytime i configure the theme lipstik in kde styles and press ok, the options i chose do not take effect, when i apply and when i check configure again, the options reset to defaults, anyone know how i could fix this?
[07:03] <_eMaX_> yes
[07:03] <sharp15> kishore__: that's the problem.  but firehol hasn't caused theat problem before.
[07:03] <_eMaX_> you mean just install gnome
[07:03] <kishore__> try restarting the networking subsystem.. by the way did you reboot after you first faced this prob?
[07:03] <_eMaX_> I really wonder why xgl keeps eating cpu
[07:04] <sharp15> _eMaX_: it works just fine with kde. but i'm using xgl on gentoo, so i might be a little more tollerant of annoyances.
[07:04] <sharp15> kishore__: yes i've rebooted the system.
[07:04] <_eMaX_> sharp15: how do you start it?
[07:04] <coreymon77> how do i found out what my cpu's speed is?
[07:04] <sharp15> _eMaX_: start what?
[07:04] <_eMaX_> xgl
[07:04] <_eMaX_> I have a /usr/bin/startxgl script with
[07:05] <_eMaX_> Xgl -fullscreen :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & sleep 2 && DISPLAY=:1
[07:05] <_eMaX_> and then
[07:05] <sharp15> _eMaX_: kdm shourld start it if you gave it the correct servr command.
[07:05] <AxlRose> coreymon7:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:05] <_eMaX_> exec startkde
[07:05] <Dr_willis> my *@#&@& wife is driving me crazy with me being her "Yahoo Chat" tech support... Is there a Yahoo Chat client for linux that has 'voice chat' - i cant find one.
[07:05] <AxlRose> coreymon77:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:05] <sarah> I just d/l'ed a movie, but it's in bin/cue format...is there any way I can watch it without burning it?
[07:05] <sarah> I've tried to mount it, but it doesn't work
[07:05] <sharp15> Dr_willis: did you look at gaim? (no idea about voice support.)
[07:05] <Dr_willis> sarah, convert it to iso
[07:05] <sarah> how?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> sharp15,  shes using gaim for windows.. it dont have it..
[07:06] <mantan> I have seriose problem. I installed Kubuntu 6.06 sometime last night and I repartioned the drive, but I can't find the windows partition. It won't show it in the boot list and when I looked at the disks and filesystems there was only 3 partitions
[07:06] <_eMaX_> sharp15: that is why I was asking how you start it
[07:06] <Dr_willis> google 'convert bin/cue to iso' tells about bchunk I belive
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !info bchunk
[07:06] <BluesKaj> well, i managed to get Xorg working again ...reverted to a previous file as advised by Jucato & bonbonthejon
[07:06] <sarah> ok, thanks a lot!
[07:06] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:06] <_eMaX_> mantan there is a copy of that partition on your backup drive
[07:06] <sharp15> _eMaX_: you willing to dig around with a text editor for 10 min?
[07:06] <kishore__> sharp15, sorry. im not sure how to solve this problem.. maybe google :-D
[07:06] <mantan> hmmmn?
[07:06] <_eMaX_> sharp15: I don't care a lot - I like vi :)
[07:06] <sharp15> kishore__: that's fine. for now I can just bring the firewall down during update.
[07:07] <sharp15> _eMaX_: vi? ouch. unless really comfortable with it use nano or something.
[07:07] <_eMaX_> what do you want me to do
[07:07] <mantan> so how do I recover windows and make it the main boot?
[07:07] <AxlRose> can anyone help me figure out why X is using so much CPU
[07:07] <sharp15> _eMaX_: one sec.
[07:07] <_eMaX_> mantan swap in the backup drive and restore your partition
[07:08] <mantan> ok, now I'm confused
[07:08] <mantan> I didn't make a backup drive
[07:08] <sharp15> _eMaX_: look at this http://gentoo-wiki.com/XGL#KDM_.28for_KDE_users.29 the directions for getting kdm to start xgl shouldn't be any different.
[07:09] <mantan> I didn't make a backup drive
[07:09] <sharp15> _eMaX_: if you're lucky you'll only be using vi for about a couple of minutes.
[07:09] <mantan> Is there somewhere on the HD I'm using right now that it can be found?
[07:10] <mantan> Is there somewhere on the HD I'm using right now that it can be found?
[07:10] <_eMaX_> well it talkes a long time as whenever I switch windows it cranks - xgl is still running my cpu at 100 %
[07:10] <rEvolution27> Can someone help me figure out why I can't connect to my wifi? Is it because my card isn't supported or because the info i entered is wrong.. All kubuntu says is connection failed
[07:10] <_eMaX_> ok where is in ubuntu /usr/kde
[07:11] <mantan> me?
[07:11] <sarah> Dr_willis, thanks a lot, I'm converting it now...
[07:11] <sharp15> _eMaX_: you're looking for the directory containing kde, where it got installed to.
[07:13] <sharp15> kishore__: i'm thinking archive.ubuntu.com's ip address got moved, hopefully there will be an update to firehol shortly.
[07:14] <kishore__> sharp15, quite possible...
[07:14] <sharp15> _eMaX_: try this file /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[07:14] <snikker> how can i change the applications associated to the special keys of the keyboard? (i.e. "Media" button associated with xmms, on so on).
[07:16] <kdt> hey all, can u pls let me know where to post questions about wpa?
[07:17] <mantan> ok, I can't find my windows partition, I didn't make a backup hard drive(would have, but I don't have any drives). Can it be found or am I going to need to reinstall windows XP?
[07:17] <master_> #wardriving.germany
[07:17] <jhutchins> mantan: What do you mean you can't find it?
[07:18] <jhutchins> Does fdisk -l show it?
[07:19] <mantan> I get 3 things
[07:19] <mantan> linux system, extended, and linux swap
[07:19] <MarkC> lipstik doesnt seem to save my configuration settings. :(
[07:21] <jhutchins> mantan: Does the size of the extended partition look like it could be your windows?
[07:21] <mantan> not even close, it's like 1kb
[07:21] <jhutchins> do you have any unused space on the drive now?
[07:22] <mantan> which part?
[07:22] <mantan> like the linux partition that's like 90 gigs?
[07:22] <mantan> yeah
[07:23] <mantan> I believe so
[07:23] <jhutchins> mantan: I mean do the swap + linux partitions add up to the whole drive space?
[07:23] <sharp15> does ubuntu have some sort of "testing" repository?
[07:23] <mantan> yes
[07:24] <mantan> the linux partition is slightly smaller than the original windows partition
[07:24] <mantan> so I would imagine it used all the space
[07:25] <jhutchins> I think your windows install is most likely toast then.
[07:25] <sharp15> _eMaX_: is it working?
[07:25] <mantan> hmmn
[07:25] <paul__> does anyone have a edirol UA-20 running on kubuntu?
[07:25] <_eMaX_> re
[07:25] <_eMaX_> well I dont know
[07:25] <mantan> well thats crappy
[07:25] <mantan> well how do I go about restoring it with this titanic linux partition happening?
[07:25] <mantan> im on a 100 gb drive fyi
[07:26] <sharp15> _eMaX_: you may have to use the "gem" icon to tell beryl to start and take over.
[07:26] <_eMaX_> sharp15: thanks so far for the help yet I don't see a big step forward. I rebooted even. Now whenever I load a new window, it looks as if there was an effect. the most visual effect is that everything is ridiculously slow. I cannot see any effects really. and when I say, beryl shall be the window manager I still have no window title bars etc.
[07:27] <jhutchins> mantan: You can re-size the linux partition with parted and create space for windows that way.
[07:27] <sharp15> _eMaX_: and restarting emerald doesn't help?
[07:27] <mantan> ok
[07:27] <jhutchins> mantan: That or you can just repartition it and start over.
[07:27] <_eMaX_> kwin just crashed when I first reloaded even the kicker wasn' there
[07:27] <jhutchins> mantan: I have not used parted much, but several people here have recommended getting the qparted boot disk.
[07:27] <jhutchins> let's see what the bot says...
[07:27] <jhutchins> !parted
[07:27] <_eMaX_> actually in the beryl menu I don't even have the option toreload the window decorator now
[07:27] <mantan> any ideas as to why the entire drive got wiped when i set it to partition
[07:27] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB
[07:27] <jhutchins> !partition
[07:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:28] <sharp15> _eMaX_: the option to reload window decorator is only available if beryl is controlling the windows.  if kwin took over because beryl crashed, those entries are greyed out.
[07:28] <jhutchins> !gparted | mantan
[07:28] <ubotu> mantan: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:28] <_eMaX_> ok I switched back to beryl, now I have no kicker anymore
[07:28] <_eMaX_> and no window headers
[07:29] <AxlRose> can anyone help me figure out why X is using so much CPU
[07:29] <sharp15> _eMaX_: if you can get a terminal window type "beryl-manager"'
[07:29] <mantan> does anyone have an idea as why the drive got completely eaten in the first place so I know for next time?
[07:29] <_eMaX_> that gives me the beryl context menu
[07:30] <moparisthebest> how can I start an ssh and/or vnc server on my computer?
[07:30] <sharp15> _eMaX_: yes but it should give you some control if the kicker dies again.
[07:30] <jhutchins> mantan: Oh, don't know if you've heard anything about it yet, but if you can avoid NTFS when re-installing windows.
[07:30] <sharp15> _eMaX_: just remember it's alpha software. I've never installed it on a binary distro before.
[07:31] <_eMaX_> ok now see here is something
[07:31] <_eMaX_> for my ATI card I had to disable "composite"
[07:31] <_eMaX_> in xorg.conf
[07:31] <jhutchins> mantan: Unfortunately I've never installed kubuntu on a system that had windows...
[07:31] <_eMaX_> now I read somewhere that I have to select
[07:31] <sharp15> _eMaX_: yeah. that's a good idea. that should cut down on XGL's cpu usage.
[07:31] <jhutchins> mantan: All I can figure is that there was an error somewhere in the stage of re-partitioning the drive.
[07:31] <_eMaX_> renderpath "copy"
[07:31] <_eMaX_> if I do not see window titles
[07:31] <_eMaX_> but that doesn't help
[07:32] <sharp15> _eMaX_: if you're still looking at that gentoo page, it may not all apply to ubuntu.
[07:32] <_eMaX_> no I'm not I just did what they suggested and that was basically to set  that start command for kde
[07:33] <hades> hi all
[07:33] <hades> how to set up kubuntu to take the universe packages?
[07:33] <sharp15> _eMaX_: i'll be back in a few minutes if you still need/want help.
[07:33] <_eMaX_> sharp15: can u tell me which settings you make in your menu?
[07:33] <_eMaX_> ok tnx
[07:33] <hades> can someone tell me please ? :)
[07:35] <jhutchins> !repositories
[07:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:35] <jhutchins> !repositories | hades
[07:35] <ubotu> hades: please see above
[07:35] <jhutchins> Smart bot!
[07:35] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[07:35] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:35] <clau> :)
[07:36] <clau> !update
[07:36] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:37] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Hey, you here?
[07:37] <coreymon77> yup
[07:37] <coreymon77> im here
[07:38] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i have to go take my dog for a walk
[07:38] <coreymon77> jhutchins: will you still be around to help?
[07:38] <jhutchins> Ok, I'll probably be here.
[07:39] <coreymon77> jhutchins: how long are you here for?
[07:39] <tuco> Hello there ppl and Hutchins.
[07:39] <coreymon77> jhutchins: what time do you have to leave?
[07:40] <tuco> I have two issues, one's with my MP130 canon printer and other one is with a 2gig memory stick not being recognized and frozing the system.
[07:40] <Skuller> !kill
[07:40] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:41] <Skuller> !killprocess
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killprocess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <Skuller> !exit
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <clau> Skuller ? :)
[07:42] <Skuller> clau: hehe...its arrite man....i jus woke up n was playin round wif ubotu
[07:42] <tuco> Anyone can help?
[07:42] <pirothezero> okay so i freeze crash like 4 times a day, programs just kill by themselves whenever they want, and this is really pissing me off since like i am pretty sure thats not suppose to happen, so i am going to jump to maybe a hdd issue the os is installed on, anyone have any ideas other then running spinrite?
[07:42] <coreymon77> jhutchins: okay, im off, ill be back later, try to stay here, my sound (or really, my lack thereof) is starting to annoy me
[07:43] <jhutchins> Skuller: you can open a query window or /msg ubotu to play with him.
[07:44] <t> piro, i would be more inclined to look at overheating or bad memory before a bad hdd
[07:45] <infocrash> pirothezero how new is your motherboard?
[07:45] <pirothezero> abit ic7-g
[07:45] <pirothezero> like not sure when it came out i got it maybe 3 years ago
[07:45] <tuco> Please guys some help will be more than welcome :-)
[07:46] <infocrash> ok so it should be well supported by now, check your memory like t: said
[07:46] <infocrash> run memcheck on your grub menu
[07:47] <clau> tuco: what was the question?
[07:47] <pirothezero> when he said it thats the only thing i could think of
[07:47] <AxlRose> when you set console variables....for example $OPTIONS....how do you get them to save after the console has been closed or computer restarted
[07:47] <pirothezero> brb
[07:47] <t> or swap it out if you have extra laying around
[07:47] <t> i know, who has extra memory laying around
[07:47] <Skuller> jhutchins: woot...lol..i dint know before how to start up a private convo....thanx...Ubotu is awesome...:D
[07:48] <infocrash> or maybe if you have 2 sticks memory in pull one out then if the problem happens again replace the one you left in with the one you pull out
[07:48] <t> yup
[07:48] <tuco> Thanks Clau. Basically I think I have done everything right by instaaling the drivers for my Canon MP130 printer but it freezes and does nothing, and anotherthing is when I plug my 2 gig usb stick it freezes the system too.
[07:49] <t> i see a suprising amount of memory go bad at work
[07:49] <clau> tuco: and you suspect the 2 problems have something to do with each other?
[07:51] <tuco> Not sure really...I don't think so. Let's start with the printer I think I have installed the right drivers and all but when I want to print it shows printing on the printer screen but does nothing and stays there until I stop the printer and restart it.
[07:51] <clau> do you use CUPS?
[07:53] <tuco> not sure Clau
[07:53] <clau> so you installed it "normally", via the system settings...
[07:53] <tuco> Nope I had to download special drivers for it
[07:54] <tuco> It wasn't listed in the system settings
[07:55] <clau> hmm
[07:56] <pirothezero> okay i am back and on my windows laptop cause i am afraid to turn my desktop on rofl, after running memory test it had like 112,000 errors, and then the screen turned greeen with what looked like smiley faces and then the pc started beeping to kingdom kong, i imagine it was the temp alarm, but i dont
[07:56] <pirothezero> know never heard it before
[07:56] <pirothezero> it didn't have one pass so no idea what the f is going on
[07:56] <tuco> Don't know what else to do Clau
[07:57] <pirothezero> but i imaigne its not suppose to do that
[07:57] <t> usually not
[07:58] <t> i've never used the memtest tool, but it sounds like it's time to go buy some new mem
[07:58] <clau> checking the system log may help sometimes
[07:58] <clau> so when you try to print, it freezes?
[07:58] <coreymon77> jhutchins:
[07:58] <pirothezero> like it put each address in red when it was doing 8 bit inversion and it just kept scrolling and i was like ahhhh wtf
[07:58] <t> or try and warranty it, a lot of it is lifetime warranty, whatever that means
[07:58] <clau> !printer
[07:58] <tuco> Yes it shows printing on th small printer screen and does nothing
[07:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:58] <t> that sucks
[07:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i am a little delayed for my dog
[07:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so im here for a little while longer
[07:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: you still around?
[07:59] <pirothezero> ya its 4 sticks of 512 valuemax something or other, some entity of kingston
[08:00] <ScarFreewill> i need help installing my driver, i intalled nvidia-glx and did "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and then "nvidia-xconfig" and then my x didn't load [i'm runing feisty and one one except me has speaked for 8min] 
[08:00] <ScarFreewill> (in #ubuntu+1)
[08:01] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nvm ill be back later
[08:01] <ScarFreewill> o yes, no one except me and the bot
[08:02] <mantan> so my windows partition is toast, is there any way to recover files even with it dead (I'm assuming not)
[08:03] <Dr_willis> mantan,  try a live cd see if you can access the drive/files - if so copy them somewher else
[08:03] <tuco> I downloaded and install the files for the IP1000/1500 as it should work
[08:04] <bkudria> if i run update-grub, i get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/370602 , and my menu.1st file has what look like unescaped shell characters.  i've already purged and reinstalled the grub package, which didn't help.  what should i do?
[08:04] <mantan> but the thing is, the windows partition is just plain gone
[08:04] <mantan> I already tried that
[08:05] <jhutchins> mantan: Yeah, it's gone.  What little you could recover would not be worth the effort.
[08:06] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: I presume the procedure's the same, the problem may be that yoru kernel doesn't match or something.
[08:06] <jhutchins> !ati | ScarFreewill
[08:06] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:07] <tuco> So nothing I can do really Clau?
[08:08] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: i've updated my kernel from 2.6.20-6 to 2.6.20-8 (the one the driver uses)
[08:08] <clau> sorry, my printer experience isn't very big... my printer was in cups, so I had no problems
[08:08] <clau> maybe somebody else here can help you
[08:09] <clau> have you already tried googleing?
[08:09] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: So the kernel and driver versions match.
[08:09] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Could be that kernel just isn't going to work. Revert to the previous one.
[08:09] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: yes
[08:10] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins; uname -r = 2.6.20-8-generic
[08:10] <t> hey piro, you could try just testing one stick at a time, it might not all be bad
[08:10] <ScarFreewill> !info nvidia-glx | jhutchins
[08:10] <ubotu> jhutchins: nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[08:11] <tuco> Ok will ask. Thanks anyway.
[08:11] <ScarFreewill> i though it would show feisty's :P
[08:12] <ScarFreewill> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9631+2.6.20.2-8.6 (feisty), package size 4386 kB, installed size 13352 kB
[08:12] <ScarFreewill> note 2.6.20.2-8
[08:12] <ScarFreewill> i don't think its a kernel mis match...
[08:12] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Like I said.
[08:13] <ScarFreewill> i think its xorg or some thing...
[08:13] <jhutchins> When you're on the bleeding edge, you sometimes have to revert to an earlier version.
[08:14] <ScarFreewill> my earlier version broke :P
[08:14] <ScarFreewill> this is working better than previos....
[08:14] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Mandriva makes this clearer with their cooker release, but:
[08:14] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: The main reason to run Feisty is to find the bugs and report them.  It is not released, it is not stable, it is expected to break things.
[08:15] <jhutchins> Broken == normal/as expected.
[08:15] <ScarFreewill> do you know if the driver must be nv or nvidia becuase i choose nv..
[08:15] <jhutchins> No clue, I run a Radeon I bought five years ago for about $35US.  It works fine.
[08:16] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Experimenting with the XOrg vs. Nvidia drivers is a good idea though.
[08:17] <tuco> So does Beryl work when using a X1400 ati card then?
[08:18] <ScarFreewill> maybe i need to update my xserver
[08:18] <AxlRose> when you set terminal variables....for example $OPTIONS....how do you get them to save after the console has been closed or computer restarted
[08:19] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: That or move back to whatever version you had that was working.
[08:19] <jhutchins> !beryl > tuco
[08:19] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: i never had it working
[08:20] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: just installed feisty 2 hours ago
[08:20] <jhutchins> AxlRose: You can put them in the start-up script, or there are places that some of them get configured by default, possibly /etc/sysconfig.
[08:20] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: but i installed herd3 theres still alot of updates that i have to update
[08:20] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Feisty may not be for you then.
[08:20] <blekos> hi, i want to back my mail from kontact. Is copying the folder /home/username/share/apps/kmail enough?
[08:20] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: If you want to use your system, install Edgy.  If you want to hunt for bugs, install Feisty.
[08:21] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: i'll hunt for bugs them :P
[08:21] <ScarFreewill> hehe
[08:21] <ScarFreewill> my edgy cd got eaten by my cd-rom :O
[08:21] <pirothezero> so has anyone ran memtest, i just went nextdoor and got ram from my next door neighbor that has ran good and it gets 304 errors and its 13% complete
[08:22] <pirothezero> so my question do you get errors regardless just depends on the number of them?
[08:22] <jhutchins> pirothezero: Could be you have a bad memory controller.
[08:22] <jhutchins> pirothezero: Why are you running memtest in the first place?
[08:23] <pirothezero> because on my ram i got 122,000 errors until the screen turned green with smiliy faces and my comp started to beep
[08:23] <Dr_willis> could power off.. remove memory, clean/dust out theslots and chips.. reseat and try again
[08:23] <pirothezero> beep in 3 years i never heard before
[08:23] <pirothezero> and it got that at 6% to go
[08:23] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: You might be able to find out more about your card and the current kernel and drivers from google, in #xorg, or other sources.
[08:23] <Dr_willis> it could be the motheboard/pc that is the issue - not the ram. swap the ram chips around also.. see if problem follows the ram chip
[08:23] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: This channel is really for support up to edgy, and feisty problems really don't belong here.
[08:23] <pirothezero> plus I been having crashes and segmentation faults out hte ass in kubuntu and i am pretty sure kubuntu isn't suppose to crash 4-5 times a day/freeze
[08:23] <Dr_willis> or try 1 chip in one slot. test... trynext chip test again
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: thanks for you help :D
[08:23] <Dr_willis> pirothezero,  sounds like bad ram or other hw issue to me
[08:23] <Zarel> Hey, everyone. A friend of mine is having trouble booting the Kubuntu 6.1 LiveCD on his 15" MacBook Pro.
[08:23] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Sorry, don't mean to be unfriendly, just out of ideas.
[08:24] <pirothezero> ya like the fact that his is at 394 at 24% and mine was at 122,000 going crazy at 6% leads me to believe it may be one issue
[08:24] <jhutchins> pirothezero: The errors you got earlier are real hardware/memory errors.
[08:24] <Zarel> It never gets to KDE.
[08:24] <pirothezero> while in the os jhutchins?
[08:24] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: no, i don't take it like that, atlest you tried to help (no one spoke 2 me in feisty channel)
[08:25] <pirothezero> my idea was to take his one stick and try each dimm spot
[08:25] <pirothezero> and see what happens
[08:25] <pirothezero> if they all get the same errors then ill believe its the ram
[08:25] <jhutchins> Zarel: Probably not agreeing with some hardware.  I believe there's an "alternate" install disk you can use.
[08:25] <jhutchins> Zarel: See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[08:25] <pirothezero> then i was going to stick one of my sticks in with it and see what happens
[08:25] <_eMaX_>  re
[08:26] <_eMaX_> pfeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[08:26] <_eMaX_> I gave up
[08:26] <_eMaX_> :)
[08:26] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: i don't give up easily i'll sort it out... cya :D
[08:26] <_eMaX_> No beryl simply doesn't work for me
[08:26] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Good luck!  Make sure if you find a bug you report it!
[08:26] <ScarFreewill> hehe ;)
[08:27] <jhutchins> ScarFreewill: Hey, one I reported in Mandriva just got a fix released, so the system works.
[08:28] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: i reported the herd1 error of x-server crash in installer
[08:28] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: it got fixed in herd3 and now i can at lest install herd3 :D
[08:29] <pirothezero> there a hardware channel on here somewhere? like if i wanted recommendations on what to buy if i were to upgrade, been out of it for 3 years no idea whats good now
[08:29] <pirothezero> or just ue this
[08:29] <_eMaX_> re
[08:29] <_eMaX_> !ping
[08:29] <ubotu> pong
[08:29] <_eMaX_> tnx
[08:29] <_eMaX_> anyone here happens to have a t60p ?
[08:29] <pirothezero> t41
[08:30] <pirothezero> lol maybe i can help
[08:30] <_eMaX_> no I want to find out whether an 12.5 mm hdd would fit into it - even IBM cannot tell me
[08:30] <slyfox> how do I enable user list on the right in Konversation ? It is gone
[08:31] <blekos> hi, i want to back my mail from kontact. Is copying the folder /home/username/share/apps/kmail enough?
[08:32] <dhq> when is fiesty gonna be out
[08:32] <jhutchins> slyfox: Settings/Chat Window/Show Nick List
[08:32] <rahmetli> i dont want some of the programs start when i login,what should i do?
[08:32] <jhutchins> blekos: different distros/releases put the mail in different places.
[08:32] <slyfox> jhutchins: thanks
[08:32] <pirothezero> you talk to lenovo emax?
[08:32] <slyfox> How do I set a default folder for Podcasts? Amarok keeps on pointing all newly added podcasts to this folder /home/slyfox/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts   I want a different one by default
[08:32] <jhutchins> blekos: What I do is I create a new local folder, then look for where that got created.
[08:33] <jhutchins> blekos: Wherever that folder shows up, back up that directory.
[08:33] <jhutchins> slyfox: They might be able to tell you in #amarok, but they're more likely to be on during weekdays.
[08:34] <blekos> ok thnx
[08:34] <b0nn> How do I troubleshoot an X issue, If I boot into Ubuntu X freezes just as the login screen for kdm begins to load, however if I boot to the recovery mode and start kdm from the console all goes well
[08:34] <Dr_willis> b0nn,  ati video card?
[08:35] <b0nn> s/Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[08:35] <b0nn> Dr_willis: right on the money
[08:35] <Dr_willis> with ati cards. the ati driver CAN cause a freeze if it tries to kick into 'accelerated' mode.. using 'svga' or the 'noaccel' options can fix it.
[08:35] <rahmetli> i dont want some of the programs start when i login,what should i do?
[08:35] <Dr_willis> but the better fix is to use the actual fglrx drivers
[08:36] <b0nn> My card isnt supported by the fglrx drivers :\
[08:36] <Dr_willis> what card is this?
[08:36] <b0nn> Er, I forget off the top, but I was trying to sort tvout and I was told in #ati that it wasnt supported
[08:37] <b0nn> At any rate, how do I implement those changes you mentioned?
[08:40] <cox377> I've got this problem with one of my kubuntu machines, first off the log in screen disappeared
[08:40] <coreymon77> jhutchins: you still around?
[08:40] <coreymon77> jhutchins: if you are, please answer
[08:41] <cox377> but if you typed the password in it would still load the splash screen etc, but now it just scrambled the screen, does anyone have any ideas?
[08:42] <jasonthuis> hello
[08:43] <thomax> hi
[08:43] <jasonthuis> so thi is the support channel?
[08:44] <thomax> Kubuntu Support Channel
[08:44] <thomax> aparently
[08:44] <cox377> jasonthuis: lol.. the support is normal excellent
[08:44] <_grayman> how do i make it to update dns properly? :/
[08:44] <cox377> !dns
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <_grayman> it refuses to fetch correct ips
[08:45] <jasonthuis> how do i install w32codecs and such without using automatix?
[08:45] <thomax> correct repositories
[08:45] <jasonthuis> how?
[08:45] <thomax> add them to /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <thomax> 1 sec
[08:45] <jasonthuis> yes, but how?
[08:46] <thomax> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <jasonthuis> and which?
[08:46] <thomax> generate over here
[08:46] <thomax> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:48] <jasonthuis> i can only select ubuntu versions there, however, i use kubuntu
[08:48] <thomax> jasonthuis: when done with that you do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs"
[08:48] <LinuxNT> Hi! I have a problem. I attempt to deinstall lighttpd but the system display a message (check it at http://fabianjuarez.pastebin.com/888087 ). I had Googled and Ubunted without a sucessful response. Thanks in advance!
[08:49] <thomax> jasonthuis: doesn't matther
[08:49] <jasonthuis> i need more then w32codecs
[08:49] <thomax> what is it that you need than ?
[08:50] <jasonthuis> everything you normally get with automatix
[08:51] <thomax> jasonthuis: I don't know what you get with automatix so I can't help you
[08:52] <jasonthuis> i need all of this: acrobat reader 7.0, AUD DVD Codecs, Flashplayer, Mplayer & FF plugin, multimedia codecs, Sun JAVA 1.5 JRE
[08:52] <Steve^> What's the difference between the CD and DVD downloads?
[08:52] <cathal_> how do i add a user to the sudoers file?
[08:52] <thomax> well
[08:53] <thomax> try "kdesu adept" and look for them ;) I don't know them by hard
[08:53] <thomax> jre = sun-java5-jre
[08:53] <jasonthuis> but first i need to add repositories right?
[08:53] <thomax> jes
[08:54] <jasonthuis> are u dutch?
[08:54] <thomax> jes
[08:54] <jasonthuis> ik ook
[08:54] <thomax> from belgium
[08:54] <thomax> ah
[08:54] <thomax> #kubuntu-nl ;)
[08:54] <jasonthuis> hehe
[08:54] <thomax> we can talk dutch over there
[08:54] <jasonthuis> ik heb met source o matic iets aangemaakt
[08:54] <jasonthuis> wat moet ik daarmee doen?
[08:55] <pirothezero> bitte
[08:55] <thomax> toevoegen aan sources.list
[08:55] <jasonthuis> gewoon onderaan erbij plakke?
[08:55] <thomax> jup
[08:55] <thomax> ge moet wel root zijn om op te kunnen slaan
[08:55] <thomax> dus kdesu gebruiken
[08:56] <jasonthuis> of sudo?
[08:56] <jasonthuis> sudo kan toch ook?
[08:56] <coreymon77> umm
[08:56] <coreymon77> this is the english channel
[08:57] <thomax> jasonthuis: no it's not the same
[08:57] <jasonthuis> oh
[08:57] <goldeneye> Hi All! Can anybody maybe help me to run an USB Headset un Kubuntu???
[08:57] <thomax>  jasonthuis: come to #kubuntu-nl
[08:58] <rEvolution27> has anybody installed the intel pro/wireless 3945ABG driver before?
[08:59] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Hey!
[08:59] <coreymon77> okay
[08:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: do you have any ideas
[08:59] <goldeneye> Nobody knows?
[08:59] <jhutchins> The only thing I can think of is to uninstall and reinstall the alsa packages.
[08:59] <rEvolution27> Why doesn't ubuntu come with build-essential...That should be there by default
[08:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: because im starting to think that its actually a hardware problem
[08:59] <goldeneye> jhutchins: talking to me?
[09:00] <jhutchins> goldeneye: Do a search of your headset model and "linux", see what you find.
[09:00] <goldeneye> tanks
[09:00] <jhutchins> coreymon77: That's possible.
[09:00] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i could try doing that with the alsa packages, and if that doesnt work
[09:00] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I thought you checked in windows though?
[09:00] <coreymon77> im just replacing the sound card
[09:00] <coreymon77> ya
[09:00] <goldeneye> jhutchins: Problem... its a cheap noname headset ^^
[09:00] <coreymon77> its been giving me problems in windows for a while anyways
[09:01] <jhutchins> Ah.  Could be that it's toast then.
[09:01] <coreymon77> i wouldnt be surprised
[09:01] <coreymon77> its a piece of s**t card
[09:01] <goldeneye> ^^ ok
[09:01] <jhutchins> coreymon77: The only other thing is possible hardware conflicts, which you might be able to resolve in the BIOS.  You don't have separate on-blard sound too, do you?
[09:01] <jhutchins> brb
[09:02] <coreymon77> jhutchins:  ???
[09:02] <ScarFreewill> jhutchins: i've got my 2d drivers working so far rofl
[09:02] <coreymon77> jhutchins: my sound card is seperate from my motherboard
[09:03] <coreymon77> jhutchins: its creative labs piece of crap "value" "comes with the computer" card
[09:03] <coreymon77> but
[09:03] <coreymon77> lets try the alsa thing
[09:04] <coreymon77> that would also fix my kmix levels being messed
[09:04] <coreymon77> wouldnt it
[09:04] <coreymon77> that is
[09:04] <coreymon77> if it works
[09:04] <acid_phyre> hello can someone help me find scripts for Konversation?
[09:04] <coreymon77> acid_phyre: im not sure if there are
[09:04] <acid_phyre> can u run xchat in KDE?
[09:05] <SlackRat> ack, the kubuntu forums are down?
[09:05] <coreymon77> acid_phyre: do you mean like the kind of things that mirc has?
[09:05] <acid_phyre> yea like system info and other types
[09:05] <coreymon77> and exactly what scripts are you looking for anyways
[09:06] <acid_phyre> just a list of them mostly to see what i can get
[09:06] <pirothezero> you mean like nnscript?
[09:06] <coreymon77> and for system info, isnt the version command enough?
[09:06] <acid_phyre> like a system info script
[09:07] <acid_phyre> im new to this so honestly i dont knwo the version command
[09:07] <coreymon77> acid_phyre: right click on someones a name in the nicklist
[09:07] <coreymon77> and click version
[09:08] <acid_phyre> can i post mine just into the main room?
[09:08] <coreymon77> try this
[09:08] <coreymon77> does that work?
[09:08] <acid_phyre> it told me u are using konversation thats it
[09:08] <acid_phyre> can u run xchat on kde?
[09:09] <Dr_willis> acid_phyre,  of course
[09:09] <Dr_willis> kde and gnome are not 'exclusive'
[09:09] <coreymon77> its even in apt
[09:09] <Dr_willis> you can run k3b under gnome, and gnome apps under kde. and visa-versa
[09:09] <acid_phyre> ic
[09:09] <coreymon77> they are all x-based apps
[09:10] <acid_phyre> sorry just installed this the other night
[09:10] <acid_phyre> getting used to it
[09:10] <Dr_willis> not sure why people get this idea its KDE or Gnome.. :)
[09:10] <matthias> !xen
[09:10] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:10] <coreymon77> they think its like explorer and OSX
[09:10] <Dr_willis> Linux run the X server.. the X server has apps that run on top of it. :) KDE and gnome are just collections of applications...
[09:10] <Dr_willis> Linux is all about "Legos and Layers" :)
[09:10] <Dr_willis> the L^3  theory
[09:10] <coreymon77> if something runs on linux
[09:11] <coreymon77> it would usually run on all linuxes
[09:11] <acid_phyre> does anyone know how to run a irc network off of unix?
[09:11] <coreymon77> period
[09:11] <Dr_willis> acid_phyre, install an irc server
[09:11] <Dr_willis> ircd or similer.
[09:11] <Steve^> What's the difference between the CD and DVD downloads?
[09:11] <coreymon77> acid_phyre: apt (or adept) are your friends
[09:11] <Dr_willis> dvd has more packages on it - that are NOT isntalled by default.
[09:11] <coreymon77> Steve^: ones a cd and the others a dvd
[09:11] <Dr_willis> i would advise just using the cd.
[09:11] <coreymon77> Steve^: the dvd one is naturally bigger
[09:12] <Dr_willis> a lot of the dvd pakages may be a little old by now.
[09:12] <Dr_willis> unless theyve done a remaster of it recently
[09:12] <Steve^> ok, thanks
[09:13] <SlackRat> kubuntu forums in  german is still up......
[09:16] <coreymon77> jhutchins: are you there?
[09:17] <miltos> hi ppl-:] 
[09:18] <coreymon77> hi miltos
[09:19] <miltos> Hi coreymon77
[09:19] <miltos> is automatix down?
[09:19] <coreymon77> !automatix
[09:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:19] <coreymon77> somehow i doubt you should be using it
[09:20] <miltos> what's worksforme?
[09:20] <coreymon77> i dunno
[09:21] <coreymon77> !worksforme
[09:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:21] <coreymon77> meaning
[09:21] <miltos> I don't get it...
[09:21] <infocrash> but it works for me
[09:21] <coreymon77> its just a side thing
[09:22] <coreymon77> i know nothing about automatix
[09:22] <coreymon77> but from what i can see kubuntu does not support it
[09:23] <miltos> so do I have to install every package by hand?
[09:23] <coreymon77> no
[09:23] <coreymon77> apt
[09:23] <coreymon77> apt works very well
[09:23] <miltos> I see...
[09:23] <infocrash> what do you mean kubuntu does not support it?
[09:23] <coreymon77> why use a secondary software that often breaks
[09:23] <miltos> and what about the codecs?
[09:23] <acid_phyre> i got a ? i installed hybrid irc server but cant seem to find it anywhere
[09:23] <coreymon77> when you have apt, which works just as well, if not beetter, doesnt break, and is supported
[09:24] <coreymon77> miltos: when they dont support it and strongly discourage its use, it usually means
[09:24] <coreymon77> use it if you like too
[09:24] <ScarFreewill> !patebin
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <ScarFreewill> !pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <coreymon77> but dont get upset if your system breaks because of it
[09:25] <coreymon77> why use automatix if you can use apt
[09:25] <miltos> how can I install codecs (divx, xvid, dvd etc) via apt?
[09:25] <coreymon77> well
[09:25] <coreymon77> many are already installed
[09:25] <miltos> many but not all...
[09:25] <jhutchins> !mp3 | miltos
[09:25] <acid_phyre> corey could u possible tell me where i would find a installed program like the one i just installed which is ircd-hybrid
[09:25] <ubotu> miltos: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:25] <infocrash> i think automatix site no longer works
[09:26] <coreymon77> but look at the sites ubotu gave you
[09:26] <coreymon77> those should help
[09:27] <jasonthuis> hey guys
[09:27] <coreymon77> miltos: apt-cache search [keyword]  is you friend
[09:27] <jasonthuis> how can i get a mix of ps/2 and usb mouses/keynoards to work?
[09:27] <Hrontore> okay a freeciv question, where is the "meet" butten (im in the players menu and i dont see it)
[09:27] <jasonthuis> keyboards*
[09:28] <infocrash> i'm all for free codecs but, my mp3 player does not support ogg nor theora
[09:28] <miltos> ok coreymon77...for what word should I search for install xvid codec? xvid?
[09:28] <coreymon77> !xvid
[09:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:28] <infocrash> which is what keeps me using mp3 and dvix
[09:29] <coreymon77> miltos: look at those sites
[09:29] <pirothezero> anyone running a core duo system?
[09:29] <_eMaX_> re
[09:29] <_eMaX_> anyone here has beryl working on an ati card? I for f*ks sake do not get any window borders
[09:29] <jasonthuis> how can i get a mix of ps/2 and usb mouses/keyboards to work?
[09:30] <coreymon77> jasonthuis: they should just work
[09:30] <jasonthuis> they dont
[09:30] <coreymon77> jasonthuis: what keyboard/mouse
[09:31] <Hrontore> okay a freeciv question, where is the "meet" butten (im in the players menu and i dont see it)
[09:31] <Hrontore> is there another way to declear war?
[09:31] <jasonthuis> dunno
[09:31] <coreymon77> jasonthuis: i cant help you if i dont know what im working with
[09:31] <jasonthuis> i have a mix, i have usb mouse and ps2 keyboard, but sometimes i have it other way around
[09:32] <coreymon77> what mouse
[09:32] <coreymon77> and what keyboard
[09:32] <jasonthuis> a blue with microsoft on it
[09:32] <jasonthuis> an acer keyboard
[09:32] <miltos> Sometimes there is a need for an off-line repository for kubunt-ubuntu. Does such a thing exist?
[09:32] <coreymon77> miltos: and why is there this need?
[09:33] <FOAD> Hi.
[09:33] <coreymon77> FOAD: hi
[09:34] <FOAD> Trying to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu.
[09:34] <miltos> cause sometimes ppl don't have access to the net...
[09:34] <FOAD> So I apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop and then (when that didn't work) kde.
[09:34] <FOAD> But all that happens on boot is a login screen, and after that the blue background.
[09:34] <FOAD> But that's all.
[09:34] <FOAD> What am I doing wrong?
[09:34] <coreymon77> FOAD: what do you mean, when that didnt work?
[09:35] <FOAD> When I just got a login screen and then a blue background.
[09:35] <FOAD> And a mouse cursor.
[09:35] <coreymon77> miltos: when that happens, your first priority should be to get back on the net
[09:35] <FOAD> But nothing to click or nothing.
[09:35] <coreymon77> miltos: and that is slightly pointless, it will have all old packages
[09:35] <avieira> quit
[09:36] <FOAD> So... help?
[09:36] <blue> is there a key to disable the kubuntu boot logo - if i want to see what services slow the boots process down?
[09:37] <HymnToLife> blue, edit the kernel line in your menu.lst and delete the "quiet"
[09:38] <jasonthuis> help: adept doesnt work anymore
[09:38] <blue> HymnToLife: ok thanks
[09:39] <miltos> ok...but I can not see how can I install divx codec on the pages above...
[09:39] <HymnToLife> !w32codecs
[09:39] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:39] <FOAD> No help?
[09:39] <coreymon77> FOAD: how did apt-get installing kubuntu-desktop not work?
[09:40] <FOAD> I get the login screen, log in, then I get a blue background and a mouse cursor.  And that's it.
[09:40] <miltos> Ok...no I get it...thnaks...
[09:40] <FOAD> No mouse button does anything.
[09:40] <miltos> no...-->now
[09:40] <FOAD> There is nothing to click on.
[09:41] <coreymon77> umm
[09:41] <coreymon77> FOAD: what distro did you come from
[09:41] <FOAD> ubuntu
[09:41] <coreymon77> well then
[09:41] <coreymon77> for one thing'
[09:41] <coreymon77> you should not install the kde meta package
[09:42] <Cugel> Why not?
[09:42] <FOAD> Yeah a little late for that now.
[09:42] <coreymon77> because normal kde
[09:42] <coreymon77> and kubuntu kde
[09:42] <coreymon77> are fundementally different
[09:42] <FOAD> Oh.
[09:42] <AxlRose> can anyone help me figure out why X is using so much CPU...20% is way too high
[09:42] <coreymon77> FOAD: and this fundemental difference is
[09:43] <coreymon77> there is no root
[09:43] <Cugel> Fundamentally different? You're the first one to say so, I believe.
[09:43] <coreymon77> ubuntu uses sudo
[09:43] <coreymon77> other distros dont
[09:43] <FOAD> I acknowledge your information.
[09:43] <FOAD> So what do I do to make it work?
[09:43] <coreymon77> k/ubuntu dont have an actual root account
[09:43] <blue> is there an easy way to switch from utf-8 to iso8859?
[09:44] <HymnToLife> coreymon77, why am I using it on _all_ my systems then ?
[09:44] <HymnToLife> sudo existed way before ubuntu
[09:44] <Heavenquake> coreymon77: wrong. Debian Etch also have sudo. So why shouldn't other systems have it, too?
[09:44] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: this is what i mean
[09:44] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: of course all of them have sudo
[09:44] <coreymon77> but
[09:44] <AxlRose> coreymon77 you are wrong...Ubuntu does have a root account
[09:44] <coreymon77> here is the difference
[09:44] <FOAD> Yes.
[09:44] <FOAD> I use it all the time.
[09:45] <AxlRose> you just got log into X with it
[09:45] <coreymon77> AxlRose: not really
[09:45] <AxlRose> *can't log into
[09:45] <coreymon77> exactly
[09:45] <coreymon77> just let me explaion
[09:45] <AxlRose> coremon77:  just because you can't use X does not mean it's not there
[09:45] <FOAD> Anyhow, how do I get to use kubuntu
[09:45] <FOAD> That's all I want to know.
[09:45] <Cugel> sudo aptitude install kde-core   -- and then reboot. But you knew that.
[09:45] <coreymon77> no
[09:45] <coreymon77> wrong
[09:46] <Cugel> corey: stop trolling or start making sense.
[09:46] <coreymon77> in most distros, in order to get into root from a terminal
[09:46] <Heavenquake> FOAD: you get the iso and burn it and boot it.
[09:46] <coreymon77> you type simple su
[09:46] <Heavenquake> coreymon77: you can do that in ubuntu too...
[09:46] <FOAD> I want to boot from my HD without re-installing everthing.
[09:46] <coreymon77> in k/ubuntu, the command is sudo -2
[09:46] <coreymon77> suudo -s *'
[09:47] <Heavenquake> coreymon77: you can use su too.
[09:47] <FOAD> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/13/ubuntu-to-kubuntu-keeping-the-menus-clean/ - is that guy a moron, for example?
[09:47] <AxlRose> you can su in kubuntu
[09:47] <coreymon77> okay
[09:47] <coreymon77> let me prove my point
[09:47] <AxlRose> i'm pretty sure it's not possible to have a unix system without root
[09:48] <Heavenquake> AxlRose: you're right. It isn't
[09:48] <coreymon77> AxlRose and Heavenquake, open up konsole
[09:48] <coreymon77> AxlRose: there technically is a root, but not really
[09:48] <FOAD> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9369 - or that one?
[09:48] <HymnToLife> coreymon77, they maybe know better than you so you'd better give up
[09:48] <AxlRose> coreymon77: :S
[09:48] <cathal_> does kbuntu 6.10 use D-BUS or DCOP?
[09:48] <coreymon77> let me prove my point
[09:48] <coreymon77> all of you
[09:48] <AxlRose> sure i'm in a console
[09:48] <coreymon77> open up konsole
[09:48] <Heavenquake> coreymon77: i just flip down yakuake if that's okay
[09:48] <HymnToLife> define "technically" anyway
[09:48] <AxlRose> and I typed SU
[09:49] <AxlRose> bam...I'm root
[09:49] <HymnToLife> there one or there is no
[09:49] <HymnToLife> fact is, there is one
[09:49] <HymnToLife> period
[09:49] <coreymon77> its asks you for a password right
[09:49] <coreymon77> try putting in your password
[09:49] <AxlRose> yea
[09:49] <Cugel> So what's the difference between su and sudo, again?
[09:49] <AxlRose> you have to enter the ROOT password
[09:49] <coreymon77> i know
[09:49] <AxlRose> not your password
[09:49] <HymnToLife> Cugel, su lets lou Switch User
[09:49] <coreymon77> try entering your root password
[09:49] <HymnToLife> sudo lets you run a command as another user
[09:49] <AxlRose> yes
[09:49] <coreymon77> see if it works
[09:49] <AxlRose> It does
[09:49] <Heavenquake> coreymon77:
[09:49] <Heavenquake> per@desktop:~/Desktop$ su
[09:49] <Heavenquake> Password:
[09:49] <Heavenquake> root@desktop:/home/per/Desktop#
[09:49] <toter> hi to you all... i'm having problems. i'm trying to install kde 4 "3.80.3" on my kubuntu edgy...
[09:49] <FOAD> How do I get Kubuntu to work, I don't care about the intricacies in re: su vs. sudo.
[09:50] <HymnToLife> FOAD, sadly, this channel does not revolve around tou
[09:50] <HymnToLife> you*
[09:50] <toter> i followed the instructions provided by this website: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php
[09:50] <coreymon77> look, try using sudo -s in any other distro
[09:50] <coreymon77> it does not exist
[09:51] <FOAD> Ohh that's right.
[09:51] <HymnToLife> of course it does
[09:51] <FOAD> Sadly, this channel isn't here to help people.
[09:51] <HymnToLife> I'm using it in Debian, Slackawre, Gentoo and FrerBSD
[09:51] <shakour> need help with kubuntu
[09:51] <HymnToLife> free*
[09:51] <FOAD> shakour: too bad, that's not what this channel is for.
[09:51] <Heavenquake> HymnToLife: nonetheless I think he's right in that the su vs sudo question belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:51] <Heavenquake> but hell -.-
[09:51] <shakour> can you direct me?
[09:51] <cathal_> FOAD: ur not helping things
[09:51] <AxlRose> FOAD:  sudo  apt-get installl kdesktop
[09:52] <Heavenquake> shakour: what is your problem?
[09:52] <FOAD> cathal_: and you are?
[09:52] <HymnToLife> maybe but I don't like the "I don't ccare about what you're taling about so help me NOW !" attitude
[09:52] <Heavenquake> AxlRose: isn't it kubuntu-desktop?
[09:52] <shakour> I want to install an Nvidia driver
[09:52] <cathal_> toter: im actually install kde4 myself at the moment, whats up?
[09:52] <FOAD> Maybe but I'm asking about A and spelling out the details and I get non-answers and questions about what I already spelled out.
[09:52] <AxlRose> Heavenquake:  I thought it was...but I opened adept and I can't find it anymore lol
[09:52] <FOAD> I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[09:52] <toter> cathal_: thanks for replying
[09:52] <HymnToLife> !patience | FOAD
[09:53] <ubotu> FOAD: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:53] <FOAD> I did apt-get install kde.
[09:53] <AxlRose> FOAD: you don't have to do install kde...I know that
[09:53] <FOAD> I get an empty blue screen and a mouse cursos.
[09:53] <hans_> cool.... kubuntu within 30 minutes on my new MacBookPro
[09:53] <hans_> me likees
[09:53] <FOAD> cursor.
[09:53] <Heavenquake> AxlRose: as far as I am concerned, kdesktop is just the desktop. eg the one showing wallpaper and icons and stuff
[09:53] <FOAD> And nothing more.
[09:53] <shakour> it's asking me to exit x server though
[09:53] <Heavenquake> *as far as I know
[09:53] <AxlRose> FOAD:  kubunt desktop should have done it
[09:53] <toter> I tried to correct the problem by adding the following line on my /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:53] <FOAD> Axl: but it didn't.
[09:53] <AxlRose> Heavenquake: i think you are right
[09:53] <toter> "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main"
[09:54] <FOAD> Axl: so what's next.
[09:54] <Heavenquake> FOAD: try logging out of your session, and choose KDE as your next session
[09:54] <coreymon77> if there wasnt a difference between the two, why would they tell you to install kde through the kubuntu-desktop package instead of just kde
[09:54] <FOAD> I rebooted, and did that.
[09:54] <AxlRose> FOAD:  have you checked the ubuntu forums...I'm almost positive the guide is on there...let me check
[09:54] <hans_> anywayy... off to the party
[09:54] <hans_> :rock:
[09:54] <toter> but it didn't work...
[09:54] <Heavenquake> coreymon77: because kubuntu-desktop contains much more Ubuntu-bugs.. uhmm... I mean features :D
[09:54] <Cugel> Axl: I did see a similar problem FOAD's having, in that case for XFCE. Unsolved, though.
[09:54] <FOAD> It didn't work.
[09:55] <AxlRose> FOAD:  I can't remember if you have to enter exec startkde in ur xinitrc file
[09:55] <toter> i got the following error by running "sudo apt-get update"
[09:55] <coreymon77> Heavenquake: no, kubuntu is just ubuntu kde on it
[09:55] <Heavenquake> FOAD: what exactly does "didn't work" mean?
[09:55] <Heavenquake> coreymon77: wrong. Kubuntu is just ubuntu with a buggy kde on it
[09:55] <toter> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[09:55] <FOAD> Heaven: again (4th time) all I get is the blue background and a mouse cursor.
[09:55] <FOAD> Can't click anything.
[09:55] <Heavenquake> FOAD: try reinstalling the package.
[09:56] <coreymon77> its different
[09:56] <HymnToLife> Heavenquake, and all the cheesy Kubuntu artworks :p
[09:56] <FOAD> Heaven: which package.
[09:57] <cathal_> toter: yea you need to add the key, i have been doing it differently so give me a minute to look
[09:57] <Heavenquake> HymnToLife: i count that as a bug ;)
[09:57] <HymnToLife> toter, youshould read the page more carefully...
[09:57] <Heavenquake> FOAD: sudo aptitude remove kde kubuntu-desktop . and then sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:58] <AxlRose> FOAD:  do you get the ubuntu login screen?
[09:58] <FOAD> Axl: yes
[09:58] <toter> HymnToLife, the line to be added on /etc/apt/sources.list provided by the kubuntu website is wrong
[09:58] <toter> it gives a 404 error
[09:58] <AxlRose> FOAD:  and when you click you want a kde session is freezes?
[09:58] <HymnToLife> toter, maybe you should report it to the website's staff then
[09:59] <FOAD> No.  I get a blue screen and a mouse cursor I can move around and nothing else.
[09:59] <coreymon77> toter: your problem is that you do not have the gpg key for the package
[09:59] <HymnToLife> FOAD, do you have Gnome installed and if so, does it work ?
[09:59] <Heavenquake> FOAD: did you try performing the actions I told you?
[09:59] <FOAD> No freeze, I can drop to a console and kill kdm and run gdm to get a working system, gnome.
[09:59] <toter> but... nobody is having this problem when trying to install kde 4 3.80.3?
[09:59] <FOAD> Gnome works.
[10:00] <FOAD> Heaven: working on it.
[10:00] <toter> i'm not an advanced user
[10:00] <AxlRose> FOAD:  hmm by blue screen sdo you mean like a blue wallpaper or a falt blue screen
[10:00] <tfault> How do I select the default sound-card for ALSA?
[10:00] <coreymon77> toter:  wrong, plenty of people, including me had this problem
[10:00] <FOAD> Wallpaper./
[10:00] <HymnToLife> toter, you added the line to your sources.list, now what's the problem ?
[10:00] <Heavenquake> AxlRose: hopefully he means a blue wallpaper and not a BSOD ;)
[10:00] <toter> i get the following error
[10:00] <toter> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[10:00] <AxlRose> Heavenquake:  for sure haha
[10:01] <coreymon77> exactly
[10:01] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: his sources.list is not the problem
[10:01] <HymnToLife> toter, run the wget and sudo apt-key commands as shown here : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php
[10:01] <coreymon77> listen to me
[10:01] <jeanclaude> may i get in your conversation
[10:01] <cathal_> toter: i was about to say your line is incorrect. Do u get the same error when u add the correct line deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ ./
[10:01] <coreymon77> do this
[10:01] <coreymon77> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:01] <FOAD> Heaven: ok.  didn't seem to change a lot.
[10:01] <coreymon77> in konsole
[10:01] <HymnToLife> cathal_, his line is correct
[10:02] <FOAD> But let's try.
[10:02] <jeanclaude> I am a new user
[10:02] <HymnToLife> the Kubuntu.org guys just forgot to add the instructionabvout the apt keuy on the page
[10:02] <jeanclaude> And i do not know how to do
[10:02] <coreymon77> toter: type this into konsole wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[10:02] <HymnToLife> coreymon77, already told him that
[10:02] <archangel_> switched 2 more peeps to the world of linux
[10:03] <AxlRose> jeanclause: go ahead i'm listening
[10:03] <AxlRose> jeanclaude: go ahead i'm listening
[10:03] <toter> cathal_: i'll try to run the line you provided... hold on...
[10:03] <jeanclaude> and worst ! I'm not realy good in english
[10:03] <jeanclaude> Thanks axlrose
[10:03] <BrettV> Which is the most user friendly distro of linux
[10:03] <AxlRose> jeanclaude:  what are you having problems with
[10:03] <BrettV> ?
[10:03] <neildarlow> archangel_: only two? how long will it take you to convert the rest? :)
[10:03] <jeanclaude> I try to connect my messagerie
[10:04] <archangel_> only a few at a time
[10:04] <toter> cathal_: i got the following error
[10:04] <cathal_> toter: maybe u shouldn't :-) id say follow what the lads are saying. Im compiling everything manualy so im doing it a different way
[10:04] <toter> Err http://kubuntu.org ./ Packages
[10:04] <toter>   404 Not Found
[10:04] <AxlRose> BrettV:  Mandriva i've head is damn easy
[10:04] <Cugel> I've managed to convert a few people -- it's about time I returned to Windows XP ;-)
[10:04] <archangel_> :o)  hehe
[10:04] <coreymon77> toter: listen to what i said
[10:04] <jeanclaude> Where is BrettV
[10:04] <neildarlow> BrettV: SimplyMEPIS is ... simple to install
[10:04] <BrettV> AxlRose: Madriva? I have never heard of that one
[10:04] <AxlRose> jeanclaude: Messenger? is that what you mean
[10:04] <BrettV> jeanclaude: i am in vegas
[10:05] <archangel_> mandriva is pretty cool I had that once, and Suse isnt bad, but they prefer businesses
[10:05] <BrettV> neildarlow: Besides the install
[10:05] <AxlRose> BrettV:  It used to be called Mandrake
[10:05] <BrettV> archangel_: what do you mean Suse prefers buisness?
[10:05] <neildarlow> BrettV: it's a nice distribution. good for newcomers
[10:05] <archangel_> yeah, thats when I had it
[10:05] <BrettV> AxlRose: oh they changed the name? I have heard of Mardrake
[10:05] <jeanclaude> Befor when i was with Thunderbird with Windows, it was easy
[10:05] <neildarlow> BrettV: and it's based on Ubuntu
[10:06] <jeanclaude> But now, with the experiment of Linus (Ubuntu) it seams more difficult
[10:06] <BrettV> So it is really similiar to Kubuntu?
[10:06] <AxlRose> BrettV:  yep...i've never personally used it...but it's well known as a beginners linux
[10:06] <FOAD> Heavenquake: thank you.
[10:06] <BrettV> AxlRose: I think i will try that one
[10:06] <archangel_> Suse was bought out by Novel (a networking co.) and their main target of business is corperations
[10:06] <AxlRose> FOAD:  You got it?
[10:06] <Heavenquake> FOAD: It did the job? :)
[10:06] <jsiris> jeanclaude: thunderbird is also available for linux.
[10:06] <FOAD> Yes.
[10:07] <Heavenquake> Great
[10:07] <jeanclaude> I suppose that this is the same cause it opens with Kubuntu
[10:07] <neildarlow> BrettV: SimplyMEPIS plays media, java applets etc. out of the box. it's very user oriented
[10:07] <archangel_> Suse is based out of Germany
[10:07] <FOAD> Everything looks all weird and stuff on monitor two is strange, but we gotta start somewhere.
[10:07] <jeanclaude> I know but i enter my identifiant and the number for connection but it doen'ty fonction
[10:07] <BrettV> cool thanks guys... i am going to format my computer a few times and try to learn something... i am going to try both Simply and Madriva
[10:07] <archangel_> SimplyMepis needs to work on their website some more
[10:08] <neildarlow> BrettV: try it. it comes as a liveCD that you can install to disk
[10:08] <AxlRose> BrettV:  goodluck
[10:08] <BrettV> neildarlow: oh wow thats all you had to say
[10:08] <BrettV> thanks
[10:08] <koli> hello people
[10:08] <archangel_> All the impression I get when I'm there is an old man trying to sell his book
[10:08] <koli> i cannot play mp3 in amarok
[10:08] <hal> hola hola
[10:08] <neildarlow> archangel_: i think the distribution has a higher priority than the website. limited manpower.
[10:09] <jsiris> jeanclaude: it *should* work just the same. no typo anywhere?
[10:09] <AxlRose> koli:  it shoud ask you to install codeccs
[10:09] <koli> when it tries to install mp3 support it does fetch and looks like installing something
[10:09] <jeanclaude> Ok Guy Iwill be back for more info. I have to quit
[10:09] <koli> in fact they dont get installed at all
[10:09] <jsiris> koli: already restarted amarok?
[10:09] <koli> yes
[10:09] <archangel_> yeah, it looks like it
[10:09] <pirothezero> !kernel | pirothezero
[10:10] <jsiris> koli: which backend uses amarok?
[10:10] <toter> HymnToLife: the website you provided with some gpg commands WORKED! thanks!
[10:10] <toter> I would never know
[10:10] <koli> what is the backend?
[10:10] <AxlRose> so who wants to help me figure out why X is using 20% CPU constatntly
[10:10] <jhutchins> jeanclaude: Would this be easier for you in #kubuntu-fr ?
[10:10] <jsiris> koli: the player engine
[10:10] <cathal_> xine
[10:10] <koli> xine
[10:10] <HymnToLife> toter, yeah, I'll tell the Kubuntu.org guys about that
[10:10] <jhutchins> AxlRose: beryl?
[10:10] <HymnToLife> they forgot to add it on the page
[10:10] <coreymon77> jhutchins: you are back!
[10:11] <jhutchins> Intermittently.
[10:11] <AxlRose> jhutchins:  nope
[10:11] <toter> i'll live on this channel from now on
[10:11] <toter> :)
[10:11] <jsiris> koli: in short: you can dl a xine version that supports mp3
[10:11] <jhutchins> AxlRose: Everything that happens in a GUI wondow cause X to use CPU.
[10:11] <koli> how?
[10:12] <AxlRose> jhutchins:  I don't know what happened...at idle my system would use like 5% cpu(superkaramba was usung that) but now the minimum CPU is like 20
[10:12] <coreymon77> jhutchins: okay, so, you said that our last resort was to uninstall and reinstall the alsa packages
[10:12] <archangel_> I didnt realize how hard it would be to get a good game installed
[10:12] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yes.
[10:12] <jsiris> koli: you need to enable a repo that supports it.
[10:12] <coreymon77> okay
[10:12] <archangel_> with descent graphics
[10:12] <cathal_> koli: amarok-xine - search for it in Adept
[10:12] <coreymon77> this is major stuff
[10:12] <coreymon77> so
[10:12] <coreymon77> jhutchins: walk me through this
[10:12] <jhutchins> archangel_: Maybe because people expect to be paid for creating hours of incredible graphics?
[10:12] <AxlRose> jhutchins:  so something must have changed or something....because there is HDD activity every couple of seconds
[10:13] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Oy.
[10:13] <koli> cathal_ it is alredy installed
[10:13] <jsiris> cathal_: i think the xine version is the ubuntu-standart crippled one.
[10:13] <jhutchins> You realize I'm not even on a kubuntu machine here...
[10:13] <AxlRose> jhutchins:  and when the HDD  flashes there is lag on the screen, and in games and what not
[10:13] <jsiris> koli: can you pm me?
[10:13] <neildarlow> AxlRose: my system accesses disk very second even at idle
[10:13] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Let me grab my cheatsheet.
[10:13] <toter> i'll install kde4 now. buy guys! thanks!
[10:13] <archangel_> they should, to be honest
[10:14] <jhutchins> AxlRose: Sounds like you're swapping.
[10:14] <archangel_> I would happly pay for every 'good' game
[10:14] <koli> no jsiris
[10:14] <jhutchins> AxlRose: Then again, programs write to the log pretty regularly.
[10:14] <jsiris> koli: join #jsiris then
[10:14] <AxlRose> jhutchins:  you would thinkg that...but I'm using 0mb swap
[10:14] <coreymon77> jhutchins: pm
[10:14] <jermain> hi everyone
[10:15] <FOAD> Ok, now the resolution on my main screen is too high.  When I go to the Monitor & Display settings it tells me "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded".
[10:15] <FOAD> Help....
[10:15] <AxlRose> FOAD:  what are u using for a video card
[10:15] <ScarFreewill> is it possable to take drivers from one disto to another?
[10:16] <neildarlow> ScarFreewill: not safely :)
[10:16] <ScarFreewill> (non-property)
[10:16] <pirothezero> to upgrade my kernal for 2.6.17 to 2.6.19 or newer do I just download it off kernel.org?
[10:16] <FOAD> Some newish nvidia thing.
[10:16] <AxlRose> FOAD:  what drivers are u using for the nvidia
[10:16] <ScarFreewill> neildarlow: would you just like cp it?
[10:16] <neildarlow> ScarFreewill: i wouldn't do it. period.
[10:17] <AxlRose> FOAD:  are you using Nvidia drivers or kernel sources
[10:17] <hitmanWilly> pirothezero, heres a link for a how-to kernel compile http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[10:17] <FOAD> Axl: nvidia drivers.
[10:18] <pirothezero> ty hitmanWilly
[10:18] <ScarFreewill> neildarlow: would *someone you don't know just like cp it?
[10:18] <ScarFreewill> lol
[10:18] <AxlRose> FOAD:  hmm I'm not sure then
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> pirothezero, i used it for mine
[10:18] <ricmik> uh.. hi!
[10:18] <AxlRose> FOAD:  I use ATI...but I had that same problem as you when using kernel sources
[10:18] <ricmik> I'm using Kubuntu on a laptop.. how do I enable video-out? ;)
[10:18] <FOAD> Ah.
[10:18] <ricmik> I'm trying to connect a TV
[10:18] <AxlRose> FOAD:  look at you /etc/X11/xorg.conf for me
[10:19] <AxlRose> FOAD:  and tell me what driver it's using.....it should be either nvidia...but it might be nv
[10:19] <FOAD> Section "Device" Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600] [0] " Driver          "nvidia"
[10:19] <FOAD> Axl: like that?
[10:20] <AxlRose> FOAD:  ya thats right
[10:20] <archangel_> hey folks, I am having a hard time using ktorrent
[10:21] <archangel_> can I just d/l 1 song and not the whole cd?
[10:21] <jsiris> ricmik: have you tried the control center --> connected devices (rough translation)
[10:21] <AxlRose> archangel:  ktorrent sucks haha
[10:21] <archangel_> lol I agree
[10:21] <jhutchins> archangel_: You can only download what other people upload.
[10:21] <Cugel> I agree about ktorrent -- it's really, really bad. And I did use the latest version.
[10:21] <jsiris> archangel_: i disagree. you can download single files
[10:21] <jhutchins> archangel_: You can't select a file within a torrent and download just that.
[10:21] <FOAD> So, I'm SOL is what you're saying?
[10:22] <FOAD> Or what?
[10:22] <AxlRose> FOAD:  i'm not sure...I'm not familair with Nvidia support
[10:22] <FOAD> Okay.
[10:22] <AxlRose> FOAD:  sorry
[10:22] <FOAD> Well, so much for KDE.
[10:22] <archangel_> I'm trying to find a 'limewire' like prog
[10:23] <jhutchins> Really not a KDE problem but an Xorg problem there with FOAD.
[10:23] <archangel_> oh wait, limewire is available as opensource
[10:23] <jhutchins> archangel_: We try not to get too far into P2P stuff here.
[10:23] <Cugel> xorg problem --- I'm not sure.
[10:24] <archangel_> wow, didnt know that
[10:24] <jhutchins> archangel_: If you do need help, at least PRETEND you're downloading legitimate stuff like linux CD's and such.
[10:24] <archangel_> sorry hutch
[10:24] <Toran> Hey guys, I have an iPod. When I plug it in, KDE automatically mounts it and puts an icon on my desktop, and amaroK also automatically accesses it. How can I keep it from automatically mounting? I don't want it to mount, I just want it to show up in amarok as being connected.
[10:24] <FOAD> Thanks for the help, but at least Gnome just works.
[10:24] <FOAD> And KDE just doesn't.
[10:24] <FOAD> Shame.
[10:25] <archangel_> if it doesnt mount I dont know if you will be able to write to it
[10:25] <jhutchins> FOAD: Same base install?
[10:26] <FOAD> jhutchins: what do you mean.
[10:26] <jhutchins> FOAD: Did you install kde-desktop on top of ubuntu, or did you do a fresh kubuntu install?
[10:26] <FOAD> The former.
[10:26] <archangel_> lol, has anyone read the IE7 reviews?
[10:26] <jhutchins> And you can choose Gnome from the boot manager, but not KDE?
[10:27] <jhutchins> Toran: Yeah, Amarok has to mount it to read/write it.
[10:27] <FOAD> jhutchins: thanks to Heavenquake I got to start KDE, but the resolution of my main monitor is all wrong and KDE refuses to give me the options to remedy this.
[10:27] <FOAD> Claiming I have to research modules or something arcane beyond me.
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[10:28] <HymnToLife> !ops
[10:28] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[10:28] <jhutchins> FOAD: Do you have krandrtray?
[10:29] <FOAD> I have no idea.
[10:29] <FOAD> [1]  ~% locate krandrtray                       [dok@dinah ttypts/4 22:23 24/02] 
[10:29] <FOAD> /usr/share/applications/kde/krandrtray.desktop
[10:29] <FOAD> /usr/bin/krandrtray
[10:29] <jhutchins> FOAD: I think it's standard, you can launch it from Alt-F2, it might help.
[10:29] <FOAD> I guess yes.
[10:29] <jhutchins> xvidtune might help too.
[10:29] <Cugel> hutchins: thanks, didn't know about that little tool.
[10:29] <jhutchins> gtg, back in a while.
[10:30] <FOAD> Let me try it.
[10:31] <Cugel> He's getting angrier. Linux demands people to perservere!
[10:32] <tanakorn> Hello , i need Linux authencication gateway application, can anyone suggest me ?
[10:32] <Cugel> tanakom: what do you mean, something like the wallet?
[10:33] <raylu> I'm trying to install StepMania from source. I downloaded the binaries and they work, so I know I have the dependencies
[10:33] <raylu> but when I run ./configure, I get the following message:
[10:33] <raylu> configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found.
[10:33] <Cugel> Install opengl first?
[10:33] <slow-motion> n8
[10:33] <raylu> But it is installed. I can even run CS1.6 with OpenGL
[10:33] <FOAD> Okay.
[10:34] <raylu> and Beryl (that's GL too, right?)
[10:34] <FOAD> I don't know what krandrtray is supposed to do, but it does precisely nothing.
[10:34] <SSJ_GZ> raylu: You need the opengl *development* packages.
[10:34] <SSJ_GZ> raylu: I'll see if I can find the package names.
[10:35] <raylu> libghc6-opengl-dev?
[10:35] <raylu> libgl1-mesa-dev?
[10:35] <SSJ_GZ> raylu: Sounds promising :)
[10:36] <raylu> oh crap. If this was the problem, I'm going to feel retarded.
[10:36] <raylu> I thought I already had that installed.
[10:37] <raylu> woo hoo. It got past that, now it needs a GLU library. I'll go find that
[10:38] <lucas_> Hell
[10:38] <lucas_> o
[10:38] <lucas_> ^^
[10:39] <lucas_> I have a question about the third developpment snapshot
[10:39] <Cugel> ...install the fourth!
[10:39] <lucas_> Cugel: ?? You mean I use the trunk ?
[10:40] <SlackRat> kubuntu forums still down? anyone know why?
[10:41] <lucas_> in fact I want to begin coding for kde4 and want to setup the kde 4 environement
[10:41] <lucas_> and I wonder if the kubuntu packages of kde 4 are enough
[10:43] <jsiris> lucas_: enough to do what?
[10:44] <lucas_> begin coding for any kde 4 app I downlaod the sources
[10:44] <raylu> whats with all the joining and leaving \=
[10:44] <raylu> So...many...packages...I...need...grrr...........
[10:44] <jsiris> lucas_: they sure will run a kde4 session but you might want to take a look here:
[10:45] <lucas_> jsiris: the trunk ?
[10:45] <jsiris> lucas_: the new developer wiki
[10:45] <lucas_> jsiris:  where ?
[10:45] <jsiris> lucas_: i forgot the url devnew.kde.org something like that
[10:45] <jsiris> looking for it
[10:46] <lucas_> thanks
[10:46] <jsiris> developernew.kde.org
[10:46] <lucas_> ok thank you
[10:47] <lucas_> seems to be what I need
[10:47] <lucas_> jsiris: thank you very much
[10:47] <jsiris> lucas_: np. ur welcome.
[10:47] <raylu> OH MY GOD
[10:48] <raylu> it configured!
[10:48] <Dr_willis> Call the papers!
[10:48] <Dr_willis> alert the president!
[10:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:49] <raylu> i'd like to, but it errors on make
[10:49] <raylu> would you like to see a pastebin of it?
[10:51] <raylu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7399/
[10:54] <ryanakca> hmm... how do I restore Kubuntu to it's default appearance?
[10:56] <jsiris> ryanakca: there s a default button in kcontrol..
[10:56] <jsiris> ryanakca: .. did you try that one?
[10:56] <bfdhud> Anyone know of a KDM theme manager for kubuntu?
[10:57] <jsiris> bfdhud: there used to be one on kde.apps
[10:58] <bfdhud> jsiris it was for 5.10 won't work.
[10:58] <jsiris> bfdhud: did u try to compile the source? --> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120
[10:59] <FOAD> So it's impossible to adjust the resolution.  Wonderful.
[10:59] <bfdhud> jsiris not sure how
[11:00] <AxlRose> anyone here using the FGLRX radeon drivers
[11:01] <jsiris> bfdhud: roughly: dl the source, extract, compile, install
[11:01] <jsiris> AxlRose: i am.
[11:01] <AxlRose> jsiris:  did you upgrade them recently?
[11:01] <jsiris> bfdhud: i can assist you through the process.
[11:01] <jsiris> AxlRose: yes. and it stopped working, is it that?
[11:01] <bfdhud> jsiris, thanks. I'm trying to d/l source now.
[11:02] <AxlRose> jsiris:  well it works...but Direct rendering doesn't
[11:03] <jsiris> AxlRose: that s what i call non functional for the closed driver. the open source driver does even a better job at the basic gl renderings..
[11:03] <AxlRose> AxlRose:  which are the open source...the ones that come with X or Kernel
[11:03] <jsiris> AxlRose: but seriously i thought it was just me messing it up somewhere, i just did a clean re-install and reconfig of xorg.
[11:04] <jsiris> AxlRose: still didnt do the check if it worked tho
[11:04] <AxlRose> jsiris: how do I downgrade the drivers
[11:04] <jsiris> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:05] <AxlRose> jsiris:  no...I want to still use FGL I just want the older version
[11:06] <jsiris> AxlRose: oh. i think if you installed stuff with the ati-script, you can overwrite with the ones that are in the universe somewhere
[11:07] <FOAD> My verdict: Kubuntu is worthless.  I'll try it again in a year or so.
[11:07] <Dr_willis> and we value your oponin sooooooooooo much
[11:08] <AxlRose> jisiris:  I think we are confusing eachother.....I installed the fglrx drivers from the universe....everything was working fine until I updated to the new version.....so now I just want the older version of fglrx back
[11:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:08] <jhutchins> Some people aren't ready for Linux.  They should stick to Windows.
[11:08] <pirothezero> so what areas other then flash, do you run into problems when you go with 64 bit?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> SOme people are not ready to leave the womb.... :)
[11:09] <Dr_willis> pirothezero,  java, wine, vmware, emulators.
[11:09] <Dr_willis> pirothezero,  some drivers
[11:09] <jsiris> AxlRose: did they update the drivers in the verse? idk. but i think *someotherpackage* (tm) screwed things up
[11:09] <jhutchins> I'm betting he used some gnomish tool to set his display up in ubuntu, and it didn't write the settings to xorg.conf or anywhere kde can access them.
[11:09] <cpk1> imo 64bit isnt really worth it
[11:09] <jhutchins> pirothezero: I was googling on that the other day, it seems that people have found work-arounds for most of the multimedia stuff.
[11:10] <AxlRose> jsiris:  yes they updated it...so I updated also and it did more harm then good
[11:10] <cpk1> you can just use a chroot for multimedia stuff
[11:10] <AxlRose> jsiris:  so i'm just trying to find out how to go downgrade one version
[11:10] <SlackRat> i want a womb with a view
[11:10] <SlackRat> i know that, because tyler knows that
[11:10] <jhutchins> AxlRose: I'm pretty sure you can specify a version number to apt.
[11:11] <jsiris> AxlRose: cannot help with that, sry i ll check if the drivers from atis page work
[11:11] <jsiris> bbl
[11:11] <AxlRose> hey
[11:11] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:11] <AxlRose> jsiris:  so which version of the drivers to u use
[11:11] <AxlRose> jsiris:  the ones that come with X or the kernel drivers
[11:11] <cpk1> AxlRose: also, to get it at that version so it doesnt try to upgrade it use aptitude hold or place I cant remember which
[11:11] <pirothezero> jhutchins: ya like youtube in mplayer apparently
[11:11] <pirothezero> java will be a problem though i sorta need that
[11:12] <pirothezero> w.e guess ill just stay at 32 then
[11:12] <jhutchins> pirothezero: That is the easy way to go.
[11:12] <jsiris> AxlRose: 8.33.6
[11:12] <jhutchins> pirothezero: But keep scanning the 'net, progress is being made.
[11:12] <cpk1> or if you do go 64 make a 32bit chroot enviroment
[11:12] <Sanne> pirothezero: this may help (also check the wiki about 64 bit): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=134
[11:13] <jhutchins> pirothezero: A month or two ago nobody had the w32codec stuff working on 64b at all, now they've gotten around it with xine and mplayer.
[11:13] <AxlRose> jsiris:  I meant r u using fglrx(closed source)  radeon(kernel) or ati(x)
[11:13] <jsiris> AxlRose: they are from ati s page, i ll be back in a minute to see if they work. fglrx, the closed one, the broken one, the not well designed one..
[11:14] <AxlRose> jsiris: ok haha
[11:14] <jsiris> brb
[11:15] <pirothezero> cool stuff thx
[11:15] <sim55> hey how do i install window decorations?
[11:18] <kalagio> hallo
[11:18] <kalagio> does anybody knows how to enable the sound in a tv card ?
[11:18] <kalagio> help me plz
[11:19] <AxlRose> jsiris:  what did u find out
[11:20] <jsiris> AxlRose: working. surprisingly
[11:20] <kalagio> any help plz?
[11:20] <jsiris> kalagio: yes?
[11:20] <AxlRose> jsiris:  well you have  a newer version than me...and you got it from their website instead of apt-get universe?
[11:20] <sim55> hey what do i need to install in order to compile
[11:20] <KiPSeRoN> !kooldock
[11:20] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[11:20] <sim55> i cant do ./configure/make etc
[11:21] <kalagio> i would like to enable sound in a tv card
[11:21] <AxlRose> sim55:  there is a dev pack somehwere
[11:21] <kalagio> i have video but not sound
[11:21] <AxlRose> sim55: i don't remember the exact name
[11:21] <clau> kalagio: it should be enabled by default ;)
[11:21] <sim55> AxlRose: im trying to isntall window decs its so hard man
[11:21] <jsiris> sim55: sudo apt-get build-essential
[11:21] <ronniew> hey, propably a stupid question, but how do i edit my /etc/x11/xorg.conf file, i cant save it?
[11:21] <kalagio> sim55 no
[11:22] <raylu> ronniew, kdesu kate
[11:22] <clau> ronniew: only root can change that
[11:22] <kalagio> i cant hear nothing
[11:22] <clau> try sudo
[11:22] <jsiris> kalagio: i have no experience with tv cards.
[11:22] <raylu> ronniew, or use "kdesu kate" in the run dialog (alt+f2)
[11:22] <Adydas> ronniew: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:22] <clau> kalagio: maybe cable missing? is it an older card?
[11:22] <ronniew> cant login as root says root login not allowed
[11:22] <ronniew> i'll try that
[11:22] <sim55> kalagio: how do u install window decs
[11:22] <jsiris> ronniew: the root account is deactivated in (k)ubuntu.
[11:23] <raylu> I tried make on StepMania after configure finished and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7399/. Any help?
[11:23] <kalagio> sim 55i am a new user and i dont know what are you talking about
[11:23] <ronniew> i enabled it, still got: root login not allowed
[11:23] <sim55> kalagio:  window decorations for kde
[11:23] <kalagio> sim 55 if u can be more specific
[11:23] <ronniew> added root to my usergrp aswell
[11:24] <Adydas> use su
[11:24] <raylu> ronniew, you don't need to enable root. Use kdesu kate
[11:24] <jsiris> sim55: which deco?
[11:24] <ScarFreewill> whats the command to use apt to full update my pkgs
[11:25] <sim55> jsiris: any?
[11:25] <kalagio> clau on windows it works without cable
[11:25] <Adydas> sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <clau> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:25] <Adydas> then
[11:25] <Adydas> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:25] <jsiris> sim55: some need to be compiled, others are in the verse
[11:25] <ScarFreewill> thx
[11:25] <clau> kalagio: oh... which program do you use?
[11:25] <sim55> jsiris: how do i know which ones are in verse how can i chekc
[11:25] <jsiris> sudo adept_manager
[11:26] <kalagio> clau kdetv
[11:26] <sim55> i have adept
[11:26] <raylu> I tried make on StepMania after configure finished and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7399/. Any help?
[11:26] <clau> kal
[11:27] <jsiris> sim55: there are some kwin-styles
[11:27] <sim55> ok
[11:27] <jsiris> sim55: u can find more on kde-look ofc
[11:27] <clau> kalagio: have you tries to run it from the console? maybe you get some helpful error messages :)
[11:27] <Contrast> What's up, everyone?
[11:27] <jsiris> sim55: those need to be compiled, probably.
[11:27] <clau> I can't try it out because it crashes my whole system :)
[11:28] <Contrast> Have any users of the nVidia proprietary driver had problems when switching their display resolution?
[11:28] <kalagio> clau i think that something happens with alsa and oss
[11:28] <kalagio> claus when i open the program it is already set to mute
[11:28] <clau> have you tried other programs?
[11:29] <jsiris> try "aoss kdetv"
[11:29] <kalagio> clau yes but it is the only one i get signal
[11:29] <jsiris> kalagio: ^^
[11:30] <ronniew> brb,  got 2 sessions running :/
[11:30] <clau> and does the sound work with the other ones?
[11:30] <clau> because, from my experience: kdetv crashes, tvtime works just fine
[11:31] <Contrast> Are there any users of the nVidia proprietary driver in here?
[11:31] <kalagio> clau with the others i have neither sound  nor image
[11:31] <jsiris> kalagio: does aoss kdetv do anything for you?
[11:31] <kalagio> jsiris i am downloading it
[11:32] <kalagio> jsiris to tell you the truth i can not find it
[11:33] <jsiris> kalagio: looking it up..
[11:34] <kalagio> jsiris thanks
[11:34] <jsiris> kalagio: do you have libasound2 installed?
[11:34] <kalagio> jsiris no
[11:35] <kalagio> jsiris is it something close to alsamixer
[11:35] <kalagio> jsiris sorry but it is my first day wit linux
[11:35] <jsiris> kalagio: idk which package provides aoss. aoss works as a wrapper do allow different apps at the same time to access the sound device.
[11:36] <jsiris> kalagio: do you have anything running that can use the sound device?
[11:36] <kalagio> jsiris tell me one
[11:36] <jsiris> amarok
[11:36] <jsiris> xmms
[11:37] <jsiris> mplayer
[11:37] <jsiris> kaffeine
[11:37] <jsiris> kmplayer
[11:37] <jsiris> codeine
[11:37] <Contrast> kalagio: Did you already disable the KDE sound system in System Settings?
[11:37] <kalagio> jsiris i have amarol
[11:37] <kalagio> amarok
[11:37] <kalagio> contrast no
[11:38] <Contrast> I would try that first. I have to do that every time I run Audacity (an audio editing program).
[11:39] <kalagio> contrast how i can do it
[11:39] <KiPSeRoN> somone know how i can clear the ksmoothdock configertions that i choose
[11:39] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[11:39] <Contrast> I'm guessing you're getting an error along the lines of, "Could not initiate sound device" for whatever program you're trying to run?
[11:39] <Contrast> KiPSeRoN, did you already look in your home folder?
[11:39] <kalagio> contrast i can hear sounds and music
[11:39] <KiPSeRoN> what folder
[11:39] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[11:40] <kalagio> jsiris ?
[11:40] <KiPSeRoN> contrast
[11:40] <jsiris> kalagio:
[11:40] <KiPSeRoN> no have folder like ksmoothdock
[11:40] <KiPSeRoN> or somthing like this
[11:40] <jhutchins> jsiris: oss is obsolete, most systems use alsa now.
[11:40] <kalagio> jsiris can i do something with amarok?
[11:40] <jsiris> kalagio: play sound. does it?
[11:41] <Contrast> KiPSeRoN, you have "Show hidden folders" checked, right?
[11:41] <jsiris> jhutchins: which package provides aoss?
[11:41] <x_link> Hi.. just installed Kubuntu 6.10
[11:41] <x_link> How do I change my user name, I'm oe
[11:41] <x_link> oem.
[11:41] <jhutchins> jsiris: No Idea, but this will tell you how to find out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:41] <kalagio> jsiris i couldn't foind aoss
[11:41] <x_link> When I installed it then it told me to do oem-config-prepare
[11:41] <x_link> But it doesn't work
[11:41] <Contrast> kalagio, KMenu -> System Settings -> Sound System -> Enable the sound system.
[11:41] <jhutchins> jsiris: I think you shouldn't need aoss.
[11:42] <jsiris> jhutchins: i do.
[11:42] <KiPSeRoN> yes
[11:42] <Contrast> kalagio: Try unchecking that, hitting Apply, and then trying again to do whatever you're trying to do.
[11:43] <jsiris> kalagio: first things first. can you hear music when you try to play something with amarok?
[11:43] <Contrast> kiPSeRoN, try searching your home folder for *ksmoothdock*
[11:44] <KiPSeRoN> thanks i find
[11:44] <kalagio> jsiris yes i can
[11:44] <jhutchins> jsiris: apt-get install aoss then.
[11:44] <Contrast> Just because Amarok can play music files doesn't mean whatever program you're trying to use can get control of the sound system. I can play files fine in Amarok, but if I want to use Audacity, I have to shut down the KDE sound system.
[11:44] <x_link> hrmm ok
[11:44] <Contrast> kalagio, did you try what I said in the System Settings?
[11:44] <jhutchins> Contrast: Check to see what your settings are in amarok and audacity.
[11:44] <jsiris> kalagio: what exactly does kdetv say in console concerning the sound device?
[11:45] <jhutchins> Contrast: If you're not set to use alsa, try that.
[11:45] <kalagio> contrast it doesn't work
[11:45] <jhutchins> Contrast: That may make sound system sharing easier.
[11:45] <kalagio> contrast it says something about vl4..
[11:45] <jhutchins> v4l maybe?
[11:45] <kalagio> jsiris wait
[11:45] <Contrast> Thanks for the tip...
[11:46] <jhutchins> kalagio: What it says is probably significant and more useful in helping you than "it doesn't work".
[11:46] <jhutchins> !pastebin
[11:46] <clau> !paste
[11:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:46] <Contrast> On a completely unrelated note, are there any users of the nVidia proprietary drivers in here who have problems when changing their display resolution?
[11:46] <jhutchins> Contrast: Oh yeah.
[11:46] <kalagio> jhutchins i am sorry
[11:46] <jhutchins> Contrast: One guy just quit in disgust over it.
[11:46] <Contrast> Any workarounds?
[11:47] <Contrast> It drives me F***ING CRAZY. >=(
[11:47] <Contrast> Heh.
[11:47] <jhutchins> Contrast: I would say look on #xorg and google your video card, there are probably ways to get more modelines available.
[11:47] <Contrast> Well, the modelines are there. It's working perfectly fine at the moment...
[11:48] <jhutchins> Contrast: krandrtray?
[11:48] <jhutchins> !krandrtray
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krandrtray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <jhutchins> !find krandrtray
[11:48] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kde4base, kdebase-dbg
[11:48] <Contrast> But if I shutdown/reboot my computer, or otherwise restart the X server, it goes back to 1280x1024 (which looks terrible on the monitor I'm using (a widescreen television).
[11:48] <jhutchins> Ah, you need to set a DEFAULT res then.
[11:49] <jhutchins> Perhaps in xorg.conf, or using dpkg.
[11:49] <jhutchins> !fixres
[11:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:50] <Contrast> Had a look at xorg.conf, didn't see anything in there that explicitly tells X which resolution to use. It just lists all the possible resolutions.
[11:51] <Contrast> Whenever I change the resolution in System Settings (as root or otherwise), the system falls back to the open nvidia driver when I restart X.
[11:51] <om3ga> ok dumb ? how do i get into my ipconfigurations in terminal
[11:52] <Contrast> om3ga:, asking how to do something in the terminal is never a dumb question. Sorry I don't have the answer. :D
[11:52] <jhutchins> om3ga: sudo ifconfig, sudo vi /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-<device>
[11:52] <clau> om3ga: you have to be more specific :)
[11:52] <kalagio> jsiris after closing kde i cant have image
[11:52] <om3ga> ty
[11:53] <kalagio> jsiris i will tell when  i open the program
[11:53] <jsiris> kalagio: alt+f2 --> konsole
[11:53] <jsiris> kalagio: in there, type 'kdetv'
[11:54] <kalagio> jsiris and then
[11:54] <jsiris> kalagio: copy what it says to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:55] <jsiris> kalagio: then post the link :)
[11:55] <om3ga> ok well my prob was i was at a wifi hot spot and couldnt connect to the sever for some reason
[11:56] <kalagio> jsiris i have done it
[11:57] <clau> kalagio: then paste the link
[11:57] <jsiris> kalagio: yes, plz.
[11:57] <kalagio> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7404/
[11:58] <kalagio> i am sorry for being so tiring
[12:00] <Smorg> oh yes theres a kubuntu irc! :-D
[12:00] <kalagio> jsiris can you see it?
[12:01] <KiPSeRoN> !kxdocker
[12:01] <Smorg> I just installed kubuntu on vmware... see how i like it before i make the big reformat ^^
[12:01] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[12:01] <jsiris> kalagio: yes. i saw it. i look again, but the error messages are beyond my knowledge i fear.
[12:02] <clau> kalagio: it looks to me (not sure, of course) that maybe the card wasn't correctly detected
[12:03] <pjesi> were is the kde cpu adjuster I am used to in other humble distributions?
[12:03] <kalagio> clau how can i reinstall the card?
[12:04] <kalagio> clau do you know any links with instructions?
[12:04] <clau> which card do you have?
[12:04] <kalagio> clau aver tv go 007 plus
[12:05] <jsiris> kalagio: which version of kdetv r u running?
[12:06] <kalagio> clau i have followed the instuctions from some forums but i haven't got any progress
[12:06] <pjesi> guys, cpu frequently scaling?
[12:06] <pjesi> frequency even
[12:06] <pjesi> my laptop is always on full speed
[12:06] <kalagio> clau o.8.8-1
[12:06] <Contrast> pjesi, you already tried the power manager?
[12:07] <kalagio> jsiris 0.8.9-1
[12:07] <kalagio> jsiris sorry again i am a little bit  confused
[12:07] <jsiris> kalagio: that is the latest. unfortunately the website appears to be down
[12:07] <jsiris> kalagio: np.
[12:08] <pjesi> Contrast: actually I was looking for it but it in not in CS
[12:08] <Contrast> Is there not a battery icon in your system tray?
[12:08] <pjesi> Contrast: yes there is, but it has no useful actions
[12:08] <pjesi> only suspend and hibernate
[12:08] <KiPSeRoN> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <hendaus> hi all
[12:10] <hendaus> how can i disable the  firewall kad on emule?
[12:10] <jsiris> kalagio: i googled for one of the error messages, though i dunno if they were the sound related relevant ones. the best thing i can do is to mention the mailing list.
[12:10] <cpk1> shouldnt rm -R *.db go through and remove anything that ends in .db in the parent dir and everything below it?
[12:11] <Contrast> pjesi:, there should be something there that you can click to bring up the power management settings. From there, you can select performance, dynamic, or umm... I forget the other option, individually for when your system is running on the battery and for when it's plugged in.
[12:11] <clau> kalagio: you should look at the boot messages to see if the card is properly recognized
[12:12] <kalagio> gow can i do this?
[12:12] <kalagio> how?
[12:12] <KiPSeRoN> !beryl
[12:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:12] <pjesi> Contrast: I found the power manager, it has the following configuations: when below 5mins do [suspond,hibernate,shutdown] , when laptop lid is closed to ...
[12:12] <pjesi> thats it
[12:12] <clau> try cat /var/log/dmesg | grep bttv
[12:12] <Contrast> Which release are you using?
[12:13] <clau> or cat /var/log/dmesg | grep v4l