[12:16] Fujitsu: not that I know of [12:16] Fujitsu: I'm open to suggestions [12:16] not sure if LP is === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] I really think we need a copy of the data like ajmitch is able to get. LDAP and XML-RPC should be approximately equal in their impracticality for use on a large scale, no? === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-150-224-205.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] not necessarily, if there's a good way of doing complex queries [12:19] though it could be useful to have the data [12:20] I'm not sure the LP people would like a number of people making enormous numbers of XML-RPC queries regularly, really. Considering what was done to my 24-query-per-day bot. === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-150-224-205.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] Fujitsu: It got neutered? [12:25] cut off at the knees [12:25] Hrm. That's a little more brutal. [12:25] StevenK, ha. ha. [12:25] ScottK: uploaded kdissert [12:25] Fujitsu: Gee, bitter much? [12:25] Aha.. I'll run it on the other IP assigned to that box. [12:26] StevenK, course not. [12:27] Fujitsu: was this for motu-science bugs? [12:27] ajmitch: Yes. === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-150-224-205.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] Fujitsu: I'll talk to kiko about that, that just seems weird [12:33] and since it's MOTU Science I have a stake in it ;-) [12:33] It says to talk to static, and I've pinged him. [12:33] geser: Thanks. [12:34] It's up and running again now, anyway. I'm glad that box has two IPs. === blueCommand [n=bluecomm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu kills off a few bugs. === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@70.82.80.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] Fujitsu: yeah, but that's going to be a serious issue if we need to screen-scrape a bunch of stuff === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] [12:42] LaserJock, screenscraping isn't an option. It's simply too inefficienty. [12:42] no, but in the mean time that's what we've got [12:42] and if we get shut down from even doing what we've got it's an issue [12:43] True. === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-149-90.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:45] geser: xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting 1.7.2.git20070210-1 is /much/ better than feisty's current version. [12:46] how much better? [12:46] crimsun: Is there a package of it available somewhere? [12:46] crimsun: have you a deb for i386 lying around somewhere? [12:46] tiber.tauware.de:/var/cache/pbuilder/result//xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting_1.7.2.git20070210-1_i386.deb [12:47] let me move that === Fujitsu will be glad to not depend on 915resolution once -modesetting is up to scratch. [12:48] geser: http://tiber.tauware.de/~crimsun/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting_1.7.2.git20070210-1_i386.deb [12:49] ajmitch: simultaneous output to CRT and LFP w/ dri enabled and no tweaking of xorg.conf required to use CRT's modes [12:49] useful === ajmitch should try it on the laptop [12:49] since I've got a spare monitor sitting here [12:51] crimsun: thanks [12:51] np [12:52] does it need anything else special, like an unuploaded xserver? [12:52] nope [12:52] ok, good [12:52] I'll dist-upgrade anyway, this laptop is about 3 weeks behind === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch waits [12:53] ajmitch: for? [12:53] 12:51 < ajmitch> I'll dist-upgrade anyway, this laptop is about 3 weeks behind [12:54] Need to get 58.2MB/298MB of archives. After unpacking 3445kB will be used. [12:54] ah right === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] hi folks [02:00] hey === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] hi tonyyarusso === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] Hobbsee: we can't downgrade supertux... my girlfriend will kill me if we do *g* [02:07] how do I tell a shell script that variable is a int? [02:07] LaserJock: There is no typesetting in shell scripts./ [02:07] So you can simply do Variable=1 [02:07] or whatever [02:07] hey sistpoty :) [02:08] hi ajmitch [02:10] TheMuso: really? my shell script complains [02:10] LaserJock: What are you trying to do with the variable/ [02:11] hehe, I just put it in the wrong place, nvm me [02:13] TheMuso: I'm trying to do a variable=variable+number [02:13] just to add up numbers [02:13] I wouldn't have thought addition would be too hard, but my brain isn't work too well [02:14] LaserJock: imo adding numbers is a bashism iirc [02:14] but it works? [02:14] in bash it does [02:15] maybe I should have just used python [02:15] hehe === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] What does it mean in debian/rules if something is in parentheses? I have "(cd mozilla && for i in ../debian/patches/* ; do patch -p0 < $$i ; done)", and thought it interesting that it never does cd .. [02:16] I just want to add up the file size of a bunch of files [02:17] LaserJock: you can use `expr $a + $b` [02:17] tonyyarusso: it will start a subshell and execute the commands within (..) in this subshell [02:17] sistpoty: ah, thanks [02:17] np === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] Toadstool: expr 1+1 gives me 1+1 not 2 [02:22] Toadstool: oops need spaces === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] nick Laser_away [02:33] I think I found my error? Report in half an hour or so :) === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] anyone know why there is no libtcl-perl [02:41] or libtcl8.4-perl [02:44] interesting... dholbach is not a member of ubuntu-dev [02:44] sistpoty, how's that strange? [02:45] well... it's just interesting ;) === sistpoty is just cleaning up motu according to the proposal of mdz [02:45] Are you preparing for the Great Inactive MOTU Purge? [02:46] I'll take that as a yes :P [02:46] So ubuntu-dev will just have ubuntu-core-dev and motu as members? [02:46] Fujitsu: right... and thus I'm just aligning motu to ubuntu-dev [02:46] Good idea. [02:46] which is a pretty boring job [02:46] I can imagine. [02:47] It'll be nice to have the list reduced to active people, rather than having all these people who haven't touched anything in a year. [02:47] Fujitsu: well, that's a different task I'm currently not following... [02:48] But it is another task that mdz suggested, I didn't mean that you were doing it :) [02:48] Fujitsu: ajmitch, dholbach and gpocentek will tackle this [02:48] Indeed, I just read the minutes of the meeting. [02:48] :) [02:51] Good to see the council up and running, making decisions :) [02:51] yay, finally :) [02:51] I never thought I'd see the day when we had a good decision-making structure. [02:57] we do? :) === ajmitch can probably drop out of ubuntu-dev & motu === Lathiat watches his inbox get spammed [02:58] Pardon, ajmitch? [02:58] Fujitsu: I'm in -core-dev, so I'd have implicit -dev membership [02:58] Lathiat: Because you're an admin of motu? [02:58] ajmitch: then do it now... would safe me work :P [02:59] ajmitch, true. But you're more a motu. [02:59] yeh its spamming me about all the member changes [02:59] ajmitch: ah, no... I'm through A already :) [02:59] Fujitsu: sad to say [02:59] Lathiat: blame me === Lathiat blames sistpoty ;) [02:59] hehe === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] sigh, I have email coming through again, but I wonder if I lost the mail that was queued === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar [03:01] ajmitch: Sounds inconvenient. [03:01] quite === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@72-254-192-46.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] I have a somewhat odd thing that I need to do, and I'm not sure how to go about it. There's some naming nonsense in the package I'm doing, so what I want is to have installing the package do 'ln -s /usr/bin/name1 /usr/bin/name2' (needs root priv, btw). I tried putting that in debian/packagename.postinst, but that results in the following when building the .deb: [03:51] cp: `debian/kompozer//usr/bin/nvu' and `debian/kompozer//usr/bin/nvu' are the same file === cypherbios_ [n=cypher@201.89.192.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] I need it to copy the existence of a symlink, not the file it points to. [03:53] tonyyarusso: maybe cp --no-dereference [03:53] tonyyarusso: maybe you also want to create the symlink during build time (so that it's part of the package), so you could use dh_link [03:54] sistpoty: Could well be (cp's man isn't very explanatory about what those mean...). However, the cp is being called by dh_install, not stated explicitly, so I have no idea how to pass that switch. [03:54] Ah, didn't know there was a dh_link - that might make more sense hopefully. === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] tonyyarusso: but dh_install won't put things in the postinst, would it? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena_ [n=caravena@188-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] Heya gang [03:56] hi bddebian [03:56] Hi sistpoty [03:56] sistpoty: I think the postinst is done prior to that...not sure. dh_link's man suggests that it could be the ticket anyway. [03:56] yay, more ignorant reporting on osnews.com [03:56] hi bddebian [03:56] Heya ajmitch [03:57] stating that there are 541 RC bugs holding back debian etch [03:57] conveniently ignoring that *many* of these will be on packages not in etch, or tagged etch-ignore [03:58] hehe [03:59] any new insider infos when it will be released? [03:59] or rumors? *G* [04:00] I don't know, should we run bets on whether feisty will release first? ;) [04:00] since it'll be a few weeks after the last kernel upload [04:00] *g* [04:01] since they still need the new kernel (still0, d-i RC2 for installation testing, and then a few weeks extra [04:03] ajmitch: if you have a moment, could you take a look at bug 86318? thanks in advance :) [04:03] Malone bug 86318 in gajim "Version 0.11.1 of Gajim has been released. Please update" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86318 [04:03] uh, why me? :) [04:03] ajmitch: because you are a motu-uvf member ;) === CarlFK [n=carl@72-254-136-215.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] ajmitch: do we still need 2 oks, or with one is enough? because daniel approved it... [04:08] sistpoty: shy did you deactivate zul? [04:08] *why [04:11] pochu: 1 extra ok is enough [04:12] ajmitch: so what do you think? :) [04:12] Yeah, why didn't you de-activate me? :-) [04:13] pochu: I added my ok to it [04:13] bddebian: because you're special [04:13] ajmitch: that's fine :) [04:13] LaserJock: probably because zul_ identifies as core dev ;) === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] ajmitch: could you also upload it? ^_^ [04:13] that's asking a lot [04:14] heh [04:14] what's with the broken debdiff? [04:14] new upstream release, but no new upstream code there [04:14] LaserJock: sorry, was afk for a moment === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-144-122.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] LaserJock: because he isn't a member of ubuntu-dev [04:15] pochu: if you want it updated, please provide the appropriate orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz & .dsc [04:15] ajmitch: Then can you review wxwidgets2.8 and libphp-jpgraph? :-) [04:15] ajmitch: give me a second :) [04:15] bddebian: hah [04:16] :'-( [04:16] wxwidgets2.8 is not a small change [04:17] it's a big, ugly library [04:17] No shix :-) [04:18] and the debian maintainer is adamant about keeping it a native package [04:19] and will probably descend on your house seeking vengeance [04:20] hehe [04:21] I see you've kept versioned python deps in there [04:21] +Suggests: wx2.8-doc, wx2.8-examples, python2.5-xml [04:21] python2.5-xml doesn't exist [04:21] I know that's part of that stupid control.in crap [04:22] python=V-xml [04:22] get in & cleanup [04:23] if you knew there were still issues, why ask me? :) [04:23] And if he is upstream and maintainer why the hell isn't 2.8 in Debian yet? [04:24] because he's... interesting [04:24] I forgot about that one. I had it fixed before I realized I had to use the control.in [04:24] I almost disabled that stuff [04:24] and libphp-jgraph is a new package? [04:25] Not sure. We have 1.x in the archive but it's PHP4 only. This is 2.x which supports PHP5 [04:25] I see I typed it wrong === ajmitch checks copyright [04:26] I guess it might make sense to grant a general uvf-exception for the remaining php4 packages [04:26] ah yes, QPL [04:26] Yeah :-( [04:26] this is why debian bug 281535 is tagged wontfix [04:27] Debian bug 281535 in libphp-jpgraph "libphp-jpgraph: New upstream release" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/281535 === matt_good [n=matt@72-254-192-46.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] I'd say there's a very good chance this wouldn't be allowed in universe [04:29] but I can't say for sure === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] they confuse things a lot with using commercial vs open source [04:32] But doesn't QPL.txt say it's freely re-distributable? [04:32] but README says that the QPL doesn't apply for commercial use === bddebian HATES licensing crap [04:33] even though it says 'open source use' [04:33] Hmm [04:33] What makes it "Commercial Use" ? [04:33] at least the debian maintainer is of the opinion that this is not free software [04:33] which you clearly saw in debian/copyright, since you added stuff in there [04:34] yep [04:34] Isn't it the same license as libqt? [04:34] no [04:34] it states that the QPL applies under certain circumstances [04:34] does it have rdepends? is it popular? if not, I'd opt to devote the new version to multiverse and be happy === ajmitch had never heard of it [04:35] sistpoty: A few [04:35] tutos2 [04:35] QPL? which one is that? === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] Oh and gforge-web-apache [04:36] gforge-web-apache Recommends: libphp-jpgraph [04:36] Hmm [04:37] besides, you'd need to make sure that you don't break reverse depends by introducing a new version === ajmitch is going to leave in a few minutes anyway [04:40] done :) can anybody upload it? bug 86318. Thanks motu people! :-) [04:40] Malone bug 86318 in gajim "Version 0.11.1 of Gajim has been released. Please update" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86318 [04:40] Well, I was just trying to "help" [04:47] how do we have sun-java6-bin when java.com only has java5? [04:49] we're modern? [04:49] *g+ === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@72-254-192-46.client.stsn.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:49] nixternal: http://java.sun.com/javase/6/ [04:50] ya, just seen that [04:50] yay debconf [04:50] ajmitch: could you take a look at the gajim upload? I've uploaded what you requested :) === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@188-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] sistpoty: I don't think dh_link worked...something's weird here. [05:15] tonyyarusso: what exactly do you want to achieve? === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] Wow, lots of launchpad email :) === sistpoty hides === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] heh === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] sistpoty: I want to have symlinks in /usr/bin such that /usr/bin/name2 points at /usr/bin/name1, with name1 being what would normally be installed by the package. === pirothezero [n=piro@user-12lmk89.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] tonyyarusso: and name1 is not a symlink, right? [05:22] sistpoty: correct. name1 is an actual binary. === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] tonyyarusso: then dh_link should actually do it's job... let me look at an example.... === tonyyarusso sighs [05:23] hmm, did synaptic move again? [05:23] I'm going off to bed :) If you can sponsor my upload of gajim (bug 86318), I would really appreciate it! Good night MOTUs! [05:23] Malone bug 86318 in gajim "Version 0.11.1 of Gajim has been released. Please update" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86318 [05:26] tonyyarusso: yep, works for me: [05:26] >> cat min12xxw.links [05:26] /usr/bin/min12xxw /usr/bin/linktomin12xxw [05:26] sistpoty: and you got no cp errors building with that? [05:26] what the heck is Ubuntu Ultimate? [05:27] LaserJock: Ubuntu + bad codecs, I think [05:27] LaserJock: knockoff distro with automatix, lots of codecs, etc [05:27] tonyyarusso: I just apt-get source'd min12xxw and put debian/min12xxw.links in there, that did the trick. [05:27] yo i just had a quick question, this is the place to have some software added to the repos right? If i have something that I want sent out i find someone who can upload it and each time i update/added support i give them the new binaries? [05:27] they need another one? [05:27] "Automatix 2 & Automatix Bleeder (in case you want additional software)" === ajmitch shudders [05:27] http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/index.html [05:27] pirothezero: we deal with source packages [05:28] pirothezero: you can request a package [05:28] ah ok [05:28] or even better put a source package to revu [05:28] or you can learn to package and contribute a package yoursel [05:28] f === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] all that info in the links int eh motd? [05:29] !revu [05:29] LaserJock: don't worry, they promise an "ubuntu ultimate gamers edition" as well :) [05:29] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [05:29] !contribute [05:29] To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [05:29] thanks [05:29] np [05:29] sistpoty: one of the weird things is that the error is happening during dh_install, NOT dh_link, and I _think_ dh_link runs after dh_install. [05:29] ajmitch: I just got an email reply to my FF email asking where to download it :-) [05:30] haha [05:30] tonyyarusso: are you sure you have only non-links in your .install files? [05:30] sistpoty: what do you think of getting wxwidgets2.8 in? [05:31] ajmitch: I wouldn't want to transition packages to it yet, but I don't see a reason to not get it in [05:31] well... does wxwidgets2.4 still have rdepends? [05:32] yes [05:32] sistpoty: Yeah. Without out my linking attempts, it creates /usr/bin/nvu and /usr/bin/nvu-config. I want /usr/bin/kompozer and /usr/bin/kompozer-config pointing at those. My kompozer.links is "usr/bin/nvu usr/bin/kompozer" and "usr/bin/nvu-config usr/bin/kompozer-config" on the two lines. [05:32] so we'd have 3 versions of the same libs [05:32] yep :/ [05:33] and we'll have to deal with the merge (which won't be clean) for feisty+1 [05:33] the most notable one I see is audacity [05:33] sistpoty: that should be right, correct? === ajmitch has some packages that need cleaned up this week (and UVF exceptions granted) [05:33] tonyyarusso: yes, that should be right [05:34] well, I'm really undecided on wx2.8 [05:35] I think it's kinda nice to get something in quick before we actually plan on transitioning [05:35] tonyyarusso: have you tried DH_VERBOSE=1 in debian/rules? might give you a clue what's actually going on for dh_install/dh_link [05:36] (export DH_VERBOSE=1 even) [05:36] sistpoty: I'll try that. [05:37] imo 2.4 is really outdated, so I guess we should first try to transition the remaining 2.4 stuff to 2.6 and then decide wether we want 2.8... what do you think? === bddebian goes back to his hole [05:44] sistpoty: but it wouldn't hurt to throw 2.8 into Universe would it? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] Mez!! [05:46] bddebian, [05:46] is 2.8 in shape worth supporting for 18 months? === Mez slaps sistpoty [05:46] ? [05:46] i.e., /can/ we support it for 18 months? [05:47] iirc wxwidgets with even version numbers were quite stable and supported from upstream, right bddebian? [05:48] yes [05:48] Supposedly but what do I know? :) [05:48] Does anybody know how to pass switches to cp when it's being run as a sub-process of dh_install? [05:48] so I tend a little bit to get rid of 2.4 and have 2.8 once thats done [05:50] tonyyarusso: no, you can't, at least that's what I get from looking at dh_install (and I particularily don't speak perl) === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] sistpoty: I can't mimic the behaviour either - using cp in all kinds of configurations on its own does it just fine. [05:53] this is so odd... [05:53] tonyyarusso: got some build log on a pastebin? [05:54] sistpoty: no. when this one, which is being run verbose, is done maybe I will [05:54] ok, I'll take a look then [05:56] hm... been thinking again, maybe it might make sense to throw in 2.8 now and then transition 2.4 stuff to 2.6... that way we'd have more time to react on 2.8 bugs. however I still can't say I'm 100% decided ;) [06:00] sistpoty: This is the relevant part: [06:00] dh_install --sourcedir=debian/kompozer cp -a debian/kompozer//usr/bin/nvu debian/kompozer//usr/bin/ [06:01] cp: `debian/kompozer//usr/bin/nvu' and `debian/kompozer//usr/bin/nvu' are the same file [06:01] dh_install: command returned error code 256 [06:01] siretart: that's what I was thinking, but I don't know either [06:01] crimsun's got a point about supporting it for 18 months [06:01] !info packaging-guide [06:01] Package packaging-guide does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas [06:01] !info packaging-guide feisty [06:02] Package packaging-guide does not exist in feisty [06:02] :( [06:02] but it's there [06:03] tonyyarusso: how do your install files look like? [06:03] usr/bin/* [06:03] usr/lib/kompozer/* [06:03] why are you passing that "cp -a ..." stuff? [06:04] crimsun: dh_install is doing that, I believe. [06:04] tonyyarusso: do you have the complete log somewhere? or the source package? might be easier to look at it than to make blind guesses ;) [06:05] LaserJock: well, I'd rather have to support 2.8 than 2.4 for another 18 month... [06:05] sistpoty: putting the entire source package up takes a long, long time. I can get you debian/ reasonably easily though. [06:06] tonyyarusso: would be a start, though I won't promise that I get the whole picture then ;) [06:06] tonyyarusso: and maybe the complete build log? *g* [06:06] sistpoty: They'll be showing up on http://www.tonyyarusso.com/files/ shortly. [06:08] sistpoty: where is that log? === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] you'd pass that via --logfile foo.txt [06:09] [presuming pbuilder] [06:10] crimsun: And if I didn't ? [06:10] it would be a good idea to use it? :) [06:11] crud..lol [06:12] tonyyarusso: you've got install and kompozer.install in debian? [06:13] sistpoty: No. Must have forgotten to delete that from the web upload? [06:13] sistpoty: where do you see that? [06:14] tonyyarusso: just did a dget on the dsc in your web directory [06:15] sistpoty: and in it found? [06:16] tonyyarusso: I'm just testbuilding... but I guess I've found it [06:16] tell me what you think you know, b/c I'm still lost. === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945597.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] tonyyarusso: if I'm correct, dh_install will copy files from debian/tmp to debian/, so passing it --sourcedir debian/ seems like a bad idea [06:18] however that behaviour changed during debhelper compatibility versions and I'm not 100% sure about what's going on there now ;) [06:18] sistpoty: Could be. I got the --sourcedir thing out of a rules file meant for Edgy. [06:19] sistpoty: Should I try with just 'dh_install', not 'dh_install --sourcedir debian/kompozer' then? [06:20] tonyyarusso: I changed make DESTDIR=... as well as droppoing --sourcedir, but it's still building for me [06:20] (to DESTDIR=debian/tmp) [06:20] sistpoty: Completely? Mine builds fine mostly and doesn't error out until the very end. [06:21] tonyyarusso: no, it's still compiling, so I can't say if there are errors yet ;) [06:21] ah, ok. === sistpoty is out for a cigarrette waiting for the build to finish [06:23] w00t :-) [06:24] ? [06:28] ScottK: I'm a fellow smoker ;-P [06:31] Ah. === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] oh, nice... now it bailed out with a different reason. looks, like it's install stuff to debian/tmp/kompozer instead of debian/tmp [06:39] iiiinnteresting [06:39] Apparently a change will do a better job of fixing the problem (and actually show up in the debdiff) if you remember to apply the change to the source file in question... === ScottK goes back and actually makes the change instead of just writing a changelog entry saying he did... [06:41] lol === helge_ [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === helge_ [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [06:42] but I thought changelog was magic, and as soon as you described the change it wrote all the code for you.. === helge [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] It's even worse in my case. I'm backporting a fix from a newer release so I just have to copy/paste and I forgot to do that... [06:43] Made for a very compact debdiff. [06:43] tonyyarusso: no, for this dpkg would need to be linked against libjustdoit, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/04/msg00004.html [06:44] lol [06:46] nooooooooo [06:46] sistpoty: Did you get "dh_install: kompozer missing files (usr/bin/*), aborting" [06:46] tonyyarusso: yep === tonyyarusso cries [06:47] sistpoty: Did you have it with or without dh_link running? [06:48] tonyyarusso: without, since it's called later [06:48] right [06:48] well crud [06:49] tonyyarusso: I'm just having another run... [06:49] tonyyarusso: in case I won't have succes, s.th. that you can do is to install the build dependencies, and do a make -f debian/rules on your machine [06:50] tonyyarusso: that way you can see the exact state of what gets installed where at the moment it breaks [06:50] sistpoty: ah, cool [06:50] make -f debian/rules binary even === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.96.42.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] Or just 'debian/rules binary' [06:54] or dpkg-buildpackage -us -nc :-) [06:54] debian/rules binary is shorter. :-P [06:54] hehe [06:55] bddebian: Oh, please test your uploads before uploading them. I just spent most of last night sorting out the mess cyrus-imapd-2.2 had gotten into. [06:55] ?? [06:56] bddebian: It's set to be compiled against libdb 4.3, but due to upstream stupidity, it links against libdb4.4 [06:56] bddebian: Trying to run one the servers in a chroot would have told you that it was broken very quickly. [06:57] Bug #87489 has a fix ready for upload if anyone is interested... [06:57] Malone bug 87489 in pypolicyd-spf "Processing to skip localhost for SPF checks does not work for IPv6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87489 [06:57] tonyyarusso: sorry, still no success for me [06:58] however dawn is breaking and I really should be in bed now. [06:58] gn8 everyone [07:00] Me too, gnight gang [07:03] ScottK: Looking now. === DarkMageZLappy [n=Richard@121.44.243.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] StevenK: Thanks. [07:11] ScottK: Looks great, uploading now. [07:12] Thanks. [07:19] mwuahaha === LaserJock drops a planet bomb [07:20] On? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] umm, planet [07:26] Not this one then, I assume... [07:27] If two different Ubuntu packages provide Python modules that have the same python module name, is there a standard answer on how to deal with it? Is it update alternatives? [07:27] They're modules that one might want to have both installed, but I don't see how... [07:30] ScottK: they do the same thing? [07:30] or just happen to have the same name [07:30] They're both sql libraries, but for different version of sql [07:34] The relevant bugs are bug #86552 and bug #87493 [07:34] Malone bug 86552 in python-sqlite "[apport] package python-sqlite failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86552 [07:34] Malone bug 87493 in python-pysqlite2 "Conflicts with python-sqlite" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87493 [07:34] Both are in Main, but if it was easy, I thought I might provide a patch (I helped someone figure this out in #ubuntu+1 last night). === DarkMageZLappy [n=Richard@121.44.243.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] LaserJock: Any suggestions? [07:40]