| elkbuntu | i hope we get to go :) | 12:25 |
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| Hobbsee | yep : | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | D | 12:26 |
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| transgress | yeah i need some sort of test to show i changed ports | 01:03 |
| PriceChild | transgress, be patient and an op will be with you in a minute or two... don't run! :) | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | transgress: done, thanks :) | 01:05 |
| transgress | thanks | 01:07 |
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| tonyyarusso | Hobbsee, elkbuntu: So I'm reading a book about visiting Australia, and he keeps going on about how many venomous creatures there are there. Ever had an unfortunate encounter? | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | no | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | oh, a couple | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | nothing major though | 01:50 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: you are surrounded by venemous creatures all around you, have you ever been encountered? | 01:51 |
| tonyyarusso | Hobbsee: So "nothing major" in Australian means like there are only funnel web spiders in three of the eight corners of my bedroom? | 01:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | tonyyarusso, i have redbacks, do tehy count? | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Kamping_Kaiser: sure. :) | 01:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | tonyyarusso, then yes, only in 3 corners :) | 01:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | tonyyarusso, what does 'unfortunate encounter' entail anyway? | 01:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Kamping_Kaiser: dunno, some venom, a day or two in a hospital, last rites, that sort of thing. | 01:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nah, dont remember having died before | 01:56 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: most folks you talk to here live in metropolises of various sizes. not so many venemous animals (just like in north america) | 01:56 |
| === nalioth thinks tonyyarusso is having a shoe sandwich | ||
| tonyyarusso | a shoe sandwich? chewy | 01:56 |
| nalioth | i find your line of questioning insulting, actually. perhaps i'm reading it wrong | 01:57 |
| tonyyarusso | Oh? Didn't mean it like that at all... | 01:58 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: here in NorthAM, we have venomous snakes, lizards, spiders, and probably some other forms of life i can't remember atm. just because you live in NorthAM, do you have to watch where you step all the time? | 01:58 |
| tonyyarusso | nalioth: No, but we don't have as many. The author is writing about this while in the suburbs of Sydney, btw. Apparently they have a number of the "most poisonous _____" sorts of things. | 01:59 |
| === tonyyarusso was mostly joking, but is apparently being taken far too seriously today - sorry all | ||
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: go ahead and visit Australia. I think you'll be fine (no matter what that author thinks) | 02:03 |
| tonyyarusso | I'd love to sometime. Will probably do my dream trip of the north half first though (every country that touches the Arctic Ocean and/or Artic Circle) | 02:04 |
| ubotu | In #kubuntu, b0rt said: ubotu: beryl is working really nice on aiglx, but emerald seems to have some problems to load windows decorations | 02:10 |
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| ubotu | In ubotu, Bubblemanx said: where is console? | 02:29 |
| tonyyarusso | !terminal | 02:30 |
| ubotu | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands | 02:30 |
| tonyyarusso | !tell Bubblemanx about terminal | 02:30 |
| Madpilot | tonyyarusso, remote control noob assistance. Cool. ;) | 02:33 |
| tonyyarusso | Madpilot: You should have seen the day I compiled and installed something for a guy via VNC while he was in the shower. | 02:34 |
| tonyyarusso | I had a root console on the machine of someone I didn't know - it was crazy. | 02:34 |
| Madpilot | then went looking for his sekrit pr0n stash before he got out of the shower? | 02:35 |
| Madpilot | a very trusting noob | 02:35 |
| tonyyarusso | lol, there are some things I'd rather not know ;) | 02:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | people can be insanly trusting | 02:36 |
| ompaul | no people can be insane | 02:38 |
| Madpilot | s/can/are | 02:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bbl. | 02:39 |
| tonyyarusso | nalioth: You're the only person that I know has PPC machines. It would be nice if I could have access to a PPC pbuilder, if that's a possibility through your or anyone else (either run by me or you, doesn't matter) | 02:49 |
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| elkbuntu | nalioth, ubot3 is on the same connection as you? | 03:34 |
| nalioth | yes, unfortunately | 03:34 |
| nalioth | where did it go? | 03:35 |
| nalioth | looks like the bot is returning to its haunts | 03:35 |
| elkbuntu | nowhere, it needs to do some ghost slaying as well | 03:36 |
| tonyyarusso | nalioth: machine back up and ready? | 03:47 |
| nalioth | stand by please | 03:50 |
| nalioth | don't make me grumble | 03:50 |
| tonyyarusso | Happy to do so - troubleshooting an issue I found anyway; might be a while. | 03:52 |
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| arrenlex | (20:22:04) bird603568 [n=bird@c-71-58-92-236.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] entered the room. | 04:32 |
| arrenlex | (20:26:52) bird603568: you guys suck cock | 04:32 |
| arrenlex | Could you ban 'im? | 04:33 |
| arrenlex | You didn't respond to the !ops... | 04:33 |
| tonyyarusso | arrenlex: He quit. | 04:33 |
| tonyyarusso | If he comes back we will. | 04:33 |
| arrenlex | Aight. | 04:33 |
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| thc|work | shit... why isn't it letting me in #ubuntu - this nick's registered | 04:43 |
| tonyyarusso | !proxy | thc|work | 04:44 |
| ubotu | thc|work: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. | 04:44 |
| ubotu | Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 04:44 |
| thc|work | nah i know, i've been through this before but i thought i'd be allowed in with a registered nick | 04:44 |
| thc|work | and i'm connecting through port 8001 | 04:44 |
| tonyyarusso | You can use a cloak, but a registered nick isn't enough for this particular issue | 04:46 |
| thc|work | shitter... | 04:46 |
| thc|work | i don't wanna be anon | 04:46 |
| thc|work | i just am because i'm using irc at work... no way round it | 04:46 |
| tonyyarusso | So ask for an unaffil. cloak? | 04:47 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: language please | 04:47 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: won't work | 04:47 |
| tonyyarusso | eh? | 04:48 |
| tonyyarusso | thc|work: You could also try #ubuntu-offtopic if it's a temporary sort of issue - either someone might know, or they might be able to relay to #ubuntu, since I don't think that chan blocks proxies. | 04:49 |
| thc|work | ahh oki.. i only wanted to make general chat about it | 04:49 |
| thc|work | i'm a new user and just looking to soak up as much as i can | 04:50 |
| nalioth | thc|work: #ubuntu-offtopic will work fine | 04:50 |
| nalioth | we don't allow gateway users in #ubuntu due to abuse | 04:50 |
| thc|work | that's fair enough | 04:50 |
| nalioth | after you've been here a while and we see you interacting in other #ubuntu-* channels, sometimes exceptions can be made | 04:51 |
| thc|work | ahh fair due's | 04:51 |
| thc|work | so you're taking the precaution incase i'm blagging you and trying to abuse ubuntu... fair enough lol | 04:51 |
| thc|work | you can never take a man on irc by face vallue | 04:51 |
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| ericz | eh.. i got redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic, now connected on port 8001, when will i be able to join #ubuntu? | 05:06 |
| nalioth | ericz: join me in #moderation please | 05:07 |
| nalioth | ericz: you can rejoin #ubuntu now. thanks for your patience | 05:09 |
| ericz | sure, no problem | 05:09 |
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| thc|work | tell me nalioth, what's going on here? | 05:12 |
| nalioth | thc|work: /msg ubotu exploit | 05:12 |
| thc|work | hmm but i did nothing wrong, nor do i plan to | 05:14 |
| nalioth | thc|work: ubotu is an info bot | 05:15 |
| nalioth | be informed | 05:15 |
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| ShaneP | I believe I'm in the wrong channel..what is the ubuntu support channel? I thought it was #ubuntu | 07:22 |
| tonyyarusso | !proxy | ShaneP | 07:23 |
| ubotu | ShaneP: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. | 07:23 |
| ubotu | Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 07:23 |
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| ShaneP | hey smorg | 07:32 |
| Smorg | Hi | 07:32 |
| ShaneP | I guess using this irc gateway is banned from ubuntu | 07:32 |
| ShaneP | (with tor) | 07:33 |
| Smorg | yeah is there an actual ubuntu channel? | 07:33 |
| Smorg | yeah this is tor | 07:33 |
| Smorg | #kubuntu works | 07:33 |
| ShaneP | yeah, i guess tor is banned | 07:33 |
| ShaneP | they say it's not completely anonymous yet my ip is hidden and that's enough for me | 07:34 |
| Smorg | Its basically completely anonymous if you use it properly | 07:34 |
| ShaneP | but i guess it's not with irc..that's what the links say | 07:34 |
| ShaneP | did it show you some links saying it was banned on here for you? | 07:35 |
| Smorg | Any sort of traffic analysis involves crude things such as data timeing correlation etc | 07:35 |
| Smorg | why wouldn't it be? | 07:35 |
| Smorg | its encrypted end to end | 07:35 |
| Smorg | any data will be anonymous with the exception of the exit node | 07:35 |
| ShaneP | http://tor.unixgu.ru/ | 07:35 |
| Smorg | oh well they can detect you are a tor user | 07:35 |
| Smorg | thats easy | 07:35 |
| Smorg | the exit nodes are all publicly known | 07:36 |
| ShaneP | Let me know what you think of that link | 07:36 |
| Smorg | of course they have to be for tor to function | 07:36 |
| nalioth | ladies and gentlemen, this is not a social channel, if you want access to #ubuntu, Freenode offers cloaks for anonymity and it also offers "gpg-tor" access which is not shunned by some of the channels here | 07:38 |
| Smorg | ah it just kicks you to this chan | 07:39 |
| Smorg | appologies | 07:39 |
| nalioth | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml Smorg | 07:40 |
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| Myrtti | I was just thinking, what's the policy on away messages currently | 07:47 |
| tonyyarusso | Myrtti: No public ones, generally. (sometimes tolerated in smaller channels, but just don't) | 07:47 |
| tonyyarusso | Use /away instead | 07:48 |
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| Myrtti | tonyyarusso: yeah. I asked because I tried to discuss the issue on a particular channel, but since no change was happening and I got frustrated everytime I saw public aways, I left the channel | 07:49 |
| Myrtti | I wasn't contributing there anyway so it didn't matter that I left | 07:49 |
| nalioth | Myrtti: /away messages suck | 07:50 |
| nalioth | !tell Myrtti about guidelines | 07:50 |
| Myrtti | they really do, I know | 07:50 |
| Myrtti | and yes, I know the guidelines, it's me, you know ;-) | 07:51 |
| nalioth | Myrtti: just sic ubuto on 'em :) | 07:51 |
| nalioth | or ubotu even | 07:51 |
| Myrtti | well I didn't really want to rub it on people, I tried nicely with discussion | 07:52 |
| nalioth | so /msg ubotu tell NICK about guidelines | 07:53 |
| nalioth | it'll tell 'em who sent it | 07:53 |
| Myrtti | I don't particularly like using bots telling people what I can tell them myself | 07:53 |
| Myrtti | it's so... hmmm, so... | 07:53 |
| Myrtti | outsourced | 07:54 |
| Myrtti | I like to talk to people with no proxies | 07:54 |
| Myrtti | since I still know how to type and think | 07:54 |
| Myrtti | but now I need to relogin, xfce has forgotten some of my settings | 07:55 |
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| arrenlex | Could we have a blurb about install.exe pointing you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype | 08:51 |
| arrenlex | Perhaps with many giant beta warnings? | 08:51 |
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| elkbuntu | mneptok, they're talking about you on -motu, go scare them : | 09:47 |
| elkbuntu | well drat, one of them's in here, that ruined it | 09:47 |
| mneptok | heheh | 10:34 |
| elkbuntu | bah. if you're having a good day so far, dont read sounder | 10:42 |
| kgoetz | yay for having unsubscribed yesterday :D | 11:18 |
| elkbuntu | hehe | 11:18 |
| elkbuntu | kgoetz, jbj suggested a... homebrew repo | 11:18 |
| elkbuntu | ie, a cesspool of support nightmare | 11:18 |
| Seveas | @t | 11:18 |
| Seveas | meh | 11:19 |
| kgoetz | elkbuntu: what, another one? | 11:19 |
| kgoetz | or a united one ?:S | 11:19 |
| elkbuntu | kgoetz, a united one | 11:19 |
| elkbuntu | he's a tool, remember | 11:19 |
| elkbuntu | i replied anyway, and somehow managed to keep the CoC intact | 11:19 |
| kgoetz | i forget fast, but less then a week since i nearly snapped over a post from him i think i remember ;) | 11:20 |
| elkbuntu | i just reminded you in PM | 11:21 |
| kgoetz | oh thankyou *looks* | 11:21 |
| Seveas | @config channel plugins.mess.enabled True | 11:25 |
| Seveas | @esr | 11:25 |
| Seveas | @esr | 11:25 |
| Ubugtu | Eric Raymond was reborn; from a skinny lame kid with a flute into a shaman and a vessel of the Goat-Foot God, the Piper at the Gates of Dawn, the Horned Lord. The music was his first power, but not his last. | 11:25 |
| Seveas | @esr | 11:25 |
| kgoetz | o_0 | 11:26 |
| kgoetz | wth? | 11:26 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | @t | 11:26 |
| Ubugtu | Mr. T actually does sell sea shells by the sea shore. Mainly to support his $500,000 a day gold chain habit. | 11:27 |
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| ikonia | anyone awake | 12:33 |
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| === tsmithe is awake, but he's not an op | ||
| elkbuntu | already dealt, tsmithe | 12:38 |
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| tsmithe | elkbuntu, kk | 12:38 |
| kgoetz | eek. how many Hobbsee__ 's do we need :S | 12:38 |
| elkbuntu | kgoetz, i know. one is more than enough | 12:38 |
| === kgoetz flail | ||
| === elkbuntu tickles all the hobbsee's | ||
| === Hobbsee tickles all the elkbuntu's | ||
| === tsmithe hides from all the Hobbsees | ||
| Hobbsee | kgoetz: lots! | 12:39 |
| === Hobbsee chases tsmithe | ||
| elkbuntu | tsmithe, careful. they hunt like velocir raptors | 12:39 |
| === tsmithe outruns the Hobbsees | ||
| === Hobbsee__ pounces on tsmithe | ||
| tsmithe | elkbuntu, that's ok. i've dealt with them many a time | 12:39 |
| === kgoetz watches | ||
| elkbuntu | rpf; | 12:40 |
| tsmithe | hehe - Hobbsee__ pounced on my dummy! | 12:40 |
| elkbuntu | rofl* | 12:40 |
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| Hobbsee | Fetched 204MB in 6m22s (532kB/s) yay :) | 12:40 |
| tsmithe | lucky beggar | 12:40 |
| kgoetz | Hobbsee: thats a bit slow :P | 12:41 |
| tsmithe | i get a tenth that | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:41 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 12:41 |
| === Hobbsee is dist-upgrading one laptop, and installing the kde snapshot on the other | ||
| kgoetz | tsmithe: thats still twice as fast as my home connection | 12:41 |
| tsmithe | that is my home connection ;) | 12:41 |
| tsmithe | used to be 200 :'( | 12:41 |
| kgoetz | :( | 12:41 |
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| === Hobbsee seriously cant believe how tiny this laptop screen is | ||
| kgoetz | *hugs* Hobbsee* - now control that cloneing :P | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:44 |
| tsmithe | how tiny is it? | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee__ | 1024x768 - it's not that small | 12:49 |
| Hobbsee__ | but compared to my dell widescreen... | 12:49 |
| === kgoetz runs this lappy at that | ||
| === Hobbsee__ waits... | ||
| === kgoetz puts 'get lappy to take to png' on todo list | ||
| kgoetz | closer... closer... | 12:52 |
| kgoetz | (and scarier too) | 12:52 |
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| === Hobbsee is back to torment... | ||
| ubotu | In ubotu, HymnToLife said: names is <reply> For info about why Ubuntu releases are named as they are, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames | 02:13 |
| Pricey | !names | 02:14 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about names - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 02:14 |
| Pricey | !search name | 02:14 |
| ubotu | Found: kernel, appsy, warty, username, alsa-source, tab, questions-#ubuntu-classroom-chat, scp, strigi, usernames | 02:14 |
| === kgoetz wonders if thats a 'still in there ' warty or serves a special purpose | ||
| Pricey | !waty | 02:15 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about waty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 02:15 |
| Pricey | !warty | 02:15 |
| ubotu | warty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog" | 02:15 |
| Pricey | !name is <alias> codenames | 02:15 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-ops, Pricey said: !name is <alias> codenames | 02:15 |
| Pricey | %login | 02:16 |
| Pricey | !name is <alias> codenames | 02:16 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-ops, Pricey said: !name is <alias> codenames | 02:16 |
| Pricey | @login | 02:16 |
| Pricey | !login | 02:16 |
| ubotu | login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB | 02:16 |
| Pricey | grrr | 02:16 |
| kgoetz | heh :/ | 02:16 |
| Jucato | maybe it only knows you as Price_Child? | 02:16 |
| PriceChild | !name is <alias> codenames | 02:16 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, PriceChild | 02:16 |
| PriceChild | woo :) | 02:16 |
| Jucato | :D | 02:16 |
| kgoetz | :D | 02:17 |
| === PriceChild files a bug | ||
| gnomefreak | %login | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | what are you expecting? | 02:20 |
| PriceChild | gnomefreak, well when I use my "Pricey" alternate nick it won't accept me | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:21 |
| PriceChild | So hopefully the login can just look at the cloak instead of the entire thing | 02:21 |
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| gnomefreak | @btlogin | 04:29 |
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| nixternal | hey, can some one kill this turd in #ubuntu-meeting for trolling | 10:12 |
| nixternal | !ops damnit | 10:13 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ops damnit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:13 |
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| imbrandon | heya fellas, whos got ops in #ubuntu-meeting | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | we need a ban | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | 15:16 * CgiSoft takes the code of conduct and flushes it down an open source toilet iwj | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | 15:16 < atoponce> !ops JanC | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | 15:16 -!- CgiSoft [n=cgi-guy@c-24-127-89-75.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [] | 10:17 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:19 |
| nixternal | they are sleeping ;p | 10:19 |
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| Rinchen | nixternal, did you report our CoCo breach here already? | 10:27 |
| Rinchen | Ok, Nix must be away | 10:29 |
| Rinchen | For any OPS who are monitoring, we had someone on #ubuntu-meeting trash the CoC and disrupt a meeting | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | * [CgiSoft] (n=cgi-guy@c-24-127-89-75.hsd1.va.comcast.net): cgi guy | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | * [CgiSoft] #ubuntu-us #ubuntu-meeting | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | * [CgiSoft] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | * [CgiSoft] idle 00:00:57, signon: Sat Feb 24 13:53:40 | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | * [CgiSoft] End of WHOIS list. | 10:30 |
| PriceChild | Rinchen, it was reported but all the ops seem to be sleeping :( | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | The details about "flushing the Ubuntu CoC down the open source toliet" and other good stuff. | 10:30 |
| Rinchen | Thanks Pricey. | 10:30 |
| PriceChild | sorry I can't help :) | 10:31 |
| Rinchen | No worries. Just wanted to ensure someone logged it :-) | 10:33 |
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| DBO | ping nalioth | 11:03 |
| DBO | ping anyone | 11:03 |
| PriceChild | anyone? | 11:05 |
| DBO | you'll work fine | 11:05 |
| PriceChild | :) | 11:06 |
| DBO | can you do me a favor? | 11:06 |
| PriceChild | depends what it is :) | 11:06 |
| PriceChild | !proxy > m00v | 11:06 |
| DBO | can you tell Seveas that I will be away from IRC and the online community in general for short time (a couple weeks) due to, erm, personal issues I guess | 11:07 |
| m00v | yes ? | 11:07 |
| ompaul | DBO, we can | 11:07 |
| PriceChild | Ok | 11:07 |
| DBO | my private life needs some closer attention right now | 11:07 |
| PriceChild | DBO, you could always leave a memoserv perhaps? | 11:07 |
| PriceChild | m00v, see the private message from ubotu | 11:07 |
| DBO | I trust you people more =) | 11:07 |
| PriceChild | hehe ok :) | 11:07 |
| ompaul | DBO,you could mail him - he does read it - he does not see the memoserv | 11:07 |
| PriceChild | Hope you sort it all out, cya soon! | 11:07 |
| DBO | ompaul, I know, I was hoping to simply find him here | 11:08 |
| DBO | anyhow I hope you all will have me back when things are sorted on my end | 11:08 |
| DBO | thank you all | 11:08 |
| ompaul | cheers | 11:08 |
| ompaul | mind yourself | 11:08 |
| DBO | bye =) | 11:08 |
| ompaul | no | 11:08 |
| ompaul | c ya l8r | 11:08 |
| ompaul | all well | 11:08 |
| ompaul | ahh well | 11:08 |
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| ompaul | PriceChild, what was that about proxy? | 11:10 |
| PriceChild | !proxy | 11:10 |
| ubotu | The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. | 11:11 |
| ubotu | Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 11:11 |
| tonyyarusso | re: earlier, very few people have ops in -meeting, so it can be hard to find one on the rare occasion that it's needed. | 11:11 |
| PriceChild | ompaul, basically he got forwarded here from ubuntu because he has a tor connection | 11:11 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, k | 11:11 |
| ompaul | tonyyarusso, I just filed a bug about that | 11:11 |
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| tonyyarusso | helllllp | 11:13 |
| tonyyarusso | Major lag here, so trouble taking on #ubuntu spammers :P | 11:14 |
| PriceChild | ompaul, to the rescue | 11:14 |
| ompaul | tonyyarusso, got it | 11:15 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, do -readtopic please | 11:15 |
| ompaul | if your not voiced | 11:15 |
| ompaul | let me know | 11:15 |
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| tonyyarusso | ompaul: thanks | 11:17 |
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| PriceChild | ompaul, ctrl+x closing xchat keeps catching me :'( | 11:28 |
| ompaul | ahhh | 11:29 |
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| ompaul | ask and you may be denied / granted | 11:43 |
| ompaul | :) | 11:43 |
| ompaul | ikonia, ^^ | 11:44 |
| ikonia | super | 11:47 |
| ikonia | just wanted to see if anyone was listening | 11:47 |
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| ompaul | I can't hear you :P | 11:48 |
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| ikonia | my request is simple - I would like to request that the policy on using ubot output redirection is directed using a pm ">" rather than on screen as the ammount of ubot abuse (not bad - just over use) is making the channel very confusing, eg: constant !nvidia !wireless !mp3 !etc | 11:48 |
| ikonia | it would be nicer if the policy was !nvidia >$user | 11:48 |
| ikonia | I appriciate its a big ask, and just request consideration | 11:49 |
| ompaul | then you have to explain to the user what a PM is | 11:49 |
| ompaul | ikonia, if you want to put it in as bug on launchpad but I don't think it would come to pass | 11:49 |
| ikonia | not really - with a minor change to ubot so the output is auto directed to > rather than | | 11:49 |
| ikonia | I don't think it would either, I was just curious on you guys views on it | 11:49 |
| ompaul | I would be opposed to it | 11:50 |
| ikonia | if it was just me that found it frustrating or if it was a genuine problem | 11:50 |
| ikonia | ahhh interesting, could you explain | 11:50 |
| ompaul | as I use this | | 11:50 |
| ikonia | ompaul: yes, but that still outputs to screen | 11:50 |
| ompaul | it means that people who don't know stuff can see it | 11:50 |
| ompaul | and in a channel of 1k + users | 11:50 |
| ikonia | eg: "!restrictedformats" is about 8 lines long | 11:50 |
| ompaul | that is a bit over the top | 11:50 |
| ikonia | ompaul: yes, thats why I didn't put the bot on ignore | 11:50 |
| ompaul | I used to put the likes of that in on 1 line and point to a url | 11:51 |
| ompaul | hmm | 11:51 |
| ikonia | but the last few days everyone is !nvidia !help !wirless !etc and its just making the channel impossible to follow | 11:51 |
| ikonia | its only been bad of late | 11:51 |
| ikonia | hence why its only just frustrated me | 11:51 |
| ompaul | well I'll talk with seveas about making them shorter | 11:51 |
| ikonia | I appriciate I'm one user, never hurts to ask though | 11:51 |
| tonyyarusso | ikonia: so, /msg ubotu tell soandso about msg the bot ;) | 11:52 |
| ikonia | swap to the channel - in under a minute 3 people have done !worksforme | 11:52 |
| ikonia | tonyyarusso: could do - but every user ? hence why I was requesting a policy update | 11:53 |
| ikonia | I was just curious to feedback if it was frustrating anyone else, or just me finding it a bit tiresome | 11:53 |
| tonyyarusso | not sure' | 11:53 |
| ikonia | just thought it may be interesting to discuss | 11:54 |
| ompaul | then lead by example with ! foo > user | 11:54 |
| ikonia | happy to be wrong on this | 11:54 |
| ikonia | ompaul: I already do | 11:54 |
| ompaul | also tell others verbosely in the channel | 11:54 |
| ompaul | :) | 11:54 |
| ikonia | I try - but its not my place to | 11:54 |
| ikonia | hence discussion here | 11:54 |
| ikonia | happy to be wrong on it, just thought I'd see what you guys thought | 11:55 |
| ompaul | please stop saying happy to be wrong | 11:55 |
| ikonia | well, I just didn't want to be "pushy" on it like I was moaning, I was just interested | 11:55 |
| ompaul | I wonder if you should to !msgthebot | 11:55 |
| ompaul | !msgthebot | 11:56 |
| ubotu | Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... | 11:56 |
| ikonia | ompaul: but then thats another !something on screen that keeps "appearing" | 11:56 |
| ompaul | maybe I could expand that to usebot | 11:56 |
| ikonia | I was trying to reduce the ammount of !noise on screen | 11:56 |
| ompaul | you need to break eggs to make an omlette | 11:56 |
| ikonia | eg: - look at this | 11:56 |
| ompaul | so if your !noise is towards | 11:56 |
| ikonia | <Pelo> !restricted | 11:56 |
| ikonia | <OCgraphikz> got the updates | 11:56 |
| ikonia | <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 11:56 |
| ompaul | I cam seeing it | 11:56 |
| ikonia | ahhh | 11:57 |
| ikonia | didn't see you in channel | 11:57 |
| ikonia | !multimedia and !resolution 3 lines apart just flooded my screen | 11:57 |
| ompaul | you made your point about 10 minutes ago | 11:57 |
| ikonia | ooh right | 11:58 |
| ompaul | so I tried to enter a discussion with you and you keep saying the same stuff | 11:58 |
| ompaul | now can we work on this? | 11:58 |
| ikonia | wasn't sure it was clear how often its happening | 11:58 |
| ikonia | sure, happy to work on it | 11:58 |
| ompaul | my idea is that I make a nice little short one | 11:58 |
| ikonia | thats a great step | 11:58 |
| ompaul | that is like one line | 11:58 |
| ikonia | less is more | 11:58 |
| ikonia | just the URL for example | 11:58 |
| ompaul | explains how to tell a user using the bot | 11:58 |
| ompaul | no | 11:58 |
| ikonia | ooh | 11:58 |
| ikonia | missed the point | 11:58 |
| ompaul | you need to tell someone what they are doing | 11:59 |
| ikonia | ok | 11:59 |
| ikonia | explain | 11:59 |
| ompaul | so if you put a really detailed web page up | 11:59 |
| ompaul | explaining a "full case http://wiki.ubuntu.com/goodbotuse | 11:59 |
| ompaul | and we prefix this with | 11:59 |
| mc44 | #ubuntu will be scrolling past too fast even without ubotu responses | 12:00 |
| ompaul | so it looks like: !goodbotuse > user | 12:00 |
| ompaul | and that factoid says | 12:00 |
| trollboy | any word on the wrt54g's patching the bug yet? | 12:00 |
| ikonia | ompaul: that seems a reasonable step | 12:01 |
| ompaul | to use the bot better - have it message the information to the user - it is easier for them to access and does not create noise in the channel please see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/goodbotuse for more information | 12:01 |
| ikonia | ompaul: I see where you're going | 12:01 |
| ompaul | then say OI user read message from bot | 12:02 |
| ikonia | yes, thats a start | 12:02 |
| ikonia | could see how it goes | 12:02 |
| ompaul | ikonia, so I can leave that wiki page for you | 12:02 |
| ikonia | review it at a later data | 12:02 |
| ompaul | then come back to me | 12:02 |
| ikonia | ompaul: if you'd like me to write it, I'd be happy | 12:02 |
| ompaul | well it is your idea I am just advising how you can achieve your goal | 12:03 |
| ikonia | ompaul: no problem, I'll write it | 12:03 |
| ikonia | thanks for the feedback | 12:03 |
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