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vrkhansi need to keep some like backup storage which i can use both in linux and windows,12:01
linxehRobinLionheart: ok many thanks :)12:01
vrkhanswhere i can put all my important documents and other stuff,12:01
mweSamePaul: is the guide up to date?12:01
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mweSamePaul: maybe you need newer firmware12:01
MFenhas anyone had problems printing on edgy?  i'm using the printer dialogs to add a new (generic postscript) printer using ip printing (http://foo:631/ as the address)12:02
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morrolanvrkhans - best bet is a FAT32 partition then12:02
MFenwhen i print, nothing happens12:02
MFenjob goes into the printer's queue and then stays there, forever12:02
vrkhansif in case i have to format the hard drive those partition will not be disturb , thats what my plan is12:02
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linxehRobinLionheart: many thanks, working great12:02
SamePaulmwe: I've taken latest from SF12:02
MFenhas anyone else seen this behavior with ip printing?12:02
vrkhansbut i dont know wether that is right or not12:02
techie1Can anybody comment? Will my ubuntu install disk automatically parition the NTFS ( I have windows ox on the computer already)?12:02
morrolanMFen - I can print fine, but then again I only usually print straight to PDF with a faked postscript printer12:02
ernzAhhhh - I figured it. Permissions on my autostart folder were knackered. Awesome. Now I have  beryl on boot. Sweet12:02
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MFenmorrolan: i'm about to try pdf printing but i really want regular printing :)12:02
mweSamePaul: both drivers and firmware?12:02
mweSamePaul: the driver must match the firmware12:03
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SamePaulmwe: ipw 1.2.1 ipw_fw_3.012:03
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vrkhansso what you guys think12:03
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morrolanDoes anyone know how to actually get Beryl and XGL to start as a seperate login session?  I have neither an ATI or Nvidia card (Intel i810 - works fine) so the stuff in Ubuntuguide doesn't really apply as it seems to be very specific12:03
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vrkhansis that schema is fine12:03
AlexFicelletechie1: You're asking whether Ubuntu will shrink your NTFS partition to make room for the installation? Yes it will.12:03
vrkhansor any other suggestion12:04
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rlevitinvery novice question: I just switched from Fedora to Ubuntu... how do I modify the display settings (Resolution in System -> Preferences doesn't give correct options)12:04
gopwhat is envy12:04
vrkhansi am new to linux12:04
SamePaulmwe: So it match.12:04
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morrolanMFen - PDF printing - don't do what I did and spend days trying to figure out why it didn't work - it saves the PDF's to a folder called PDF in your home...12:04
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mweSamePaul: I haven't used it for two years. the README should probably say what version you need12:04
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vrkhansand i dont know much about file system12:04
morrolanHi, I'm trying to install UFO: Alien Invasion, and I can't because I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1~20060817, and for some reason the ubuntu repo's have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1cvs+20060824?  Trouble is, I can't uninstall or replace it, because practically every GUI app relies on it.12:04
jrattnerWhat does this mean: log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.12:04
mweSamePaul: also make sure you put it in the right place12:04
MFenmorrolan: heh, i *was* about to spend days figuring that out12:04
vrkhansand how that can be used12:04
techie1<AlexFicelle>thanks , so I do not have to use system rescue or any other to do this manually? If so that is great! I will try it.12:04
AlexFicelletechie1: I've done it on several computers, without problems up to here.12:04
vrkhansso please guide me12:04
mweSamePaul: not all distros store firmware the same place12:04
herpezi need to install ubuntu on acer aspire 1692 but it crashes o X server, so i cant install...12:04
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linxehmm this train crash doesnt look good12:05
SamePaulmwe: How I can know where is right place?12:05
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AlexFicelletechie1: Not at all. The install program will propose to do this for you.12:05
mweSamePaul: /lib/firmware I think12:05
lucasvoanyone can suggest a USB bluetooth adapter that will work well with my ubuntu?12:05
techie1<AlexFicelle>let me go and try it and I will let you know latter. It should be fine. thanks again.12:05
morrolanlucasvo - practically any belkin USB adapter12:05
vrkhansand another thing i need to make a boot floopy for xbuntu12:05
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linxehlucasvo: I think all of mine, even the no-name ones, work12:05
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MFenmorrolan: any way to tell it to save somewhere else?12:05
vrkhansis there any boot floopies avaliable12:05
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linxehlucasvo: there are only a limited number of chipsets for bluetooth1 that are in common use12:05
Timwguys does anyone know how to work with video codecs and either mplayer or vlc12:05
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SamePaulmwe: just copy there? No subdirs?12:05
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lucasvolinxeh: is bluetooth 1 or 2 better?12:06
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morrolanvrkhans - floopies ?  lol12:06
rkyraccoon55royel: you there man?12:06
AlexFicelletechie1: The choices are pretty clear during the install. It asks whether you want to shrink your Windows partition, or use the entire disk (= wipe Windows), or do things manually.12:06
MRAB54can someone tell me how i would go about changing my shell that is being used?12:06
Timwi want to play a streaming nsv file12:06
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vrkhansua12:06
RobinLionheartBluetooth works a lot better for me in Linux than it does in Vista.12:06
vrkhansya12:06
rkyraccoon55!ati12:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:06
linxehlucasvo: bluetooth2 is faster. if you have only bluetooth1 devices then it doesnt really matter12:06
lucasvomy retailer has the following: MSI Star Key 2.0 Bluetooth Adapter12:06
Timwi have installed everything from vlc to mplayer but nothing works12:06
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linxehRobinLionheart: most things work better in linux than vista :)12:06
morrolanMRAB54 - what do nyou want to change it to?12:06
l337woohoo i found my place :)12:06
vrkhansbecause at boot time for some reason i wont able to boot from the cd12:06
rlevitinubotu: is that for me?12:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is that for me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
MRAB54well, its for logging into my schools machines and the default is c12:06
MRAB54but probably tcsh12:06
MRAB54to switch to12:07
rlevitinubotu: monitor detection12:07
lucasvolinxeh: what do you think about that msi thing?12:07
mweSamePaul: no subdirs. and go over README in the source for ipw220012:07
RobinLionheartlinxeh: Well, maybe not my Nvidia Geforce Go display adapter, but everything else12:07
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vrkhansi can only boot12:07
herpezubotu - but to install the driver, i need to have ubuntu installed :(12:07
morrolan!monitor detection | rlevitin12:07
mweSamePaul: your guide is about two years old12:07
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Timwdid anyone get nsv files to play on their ubuntu12:07
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SamePaulmwe: I did. It says "refer to instruction of your distro'12:07
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vrkhansany suggestion12:07
linxehRobinLionheart: really? I've had no problems on the dell  laptop I tried on - can't remember which go it was though (about a year old)12:07
ConstyXI1is there a panel app that will tell you how much mail you have?12:07
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mwehuh12:07
morrolanMRAB54 - have you tried typing "tsch" at the bash shell?12:07
RobinLionheartlinxeh: I tried to set up Beryl but Ubuntu Edgy's got an old version of the adapter that messes things up12:07
mweSamePaul: not the README in the source code I just downloaded12:08
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MRAB54yes, echo $SHELL still says /bin/csh12:08
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morrolanMRAB54 - sorry, tcsh12:08
Jowihello everyone12:08
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linxehRobinLionheart: so your card isnt fully supported in the edgy driver?12:08
pianoboy3333Can anyone here help me compile the latest alsa drivers...? My left audio is crackly, and crimsun said it may help if I get the latest from alsa-project, but I haven't been able to catch him for a while.12:08
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mweSamePaul: it has a lot of instructions12:08
morrolanMRAB54 - the default is bash, so it has been changed12:08
l337trying to install pen test tool anyone up 4 helping?12:08
sgtmattbakerhow do you output as anything other than avi or ogm using Avidemux12:08
RobinLionheartAnd if I try to use the new one gdm will crash trying to start X12:08
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iulian_hi12:09
hflappyl337: which one?12:09
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morrolanHi, I'm trying to install UFO: Alien Invasion, and I can't because I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1~20060817, and for some reason the ubuntu repo's have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1cvs+20060824?  Trouble is, I can't uninstall or replace it, because practically every GUI app relies on it.12:09
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iulian_i nees some help on openssh dsa keys authentycation12:09
l337got metasploit installed12:09
RobinLionheartSo I have to go back to nv and give up 3D glitziness12:09
morrolaniulian_ whats the prooblem?12:09
MRAB54morrolan - im sorry, i dont know if i said this before but these are unix machines not ubuntu, im pretty sure the default is c12:09
mammothalguna chica d peru12:09
SamePaulmwe:  Of course I noted. But there is nothing about FW location12:09
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linxehRobinLionheart: yeah, kernel driver issues. its a right PITA to fix it. I managed it by going back to the nv driver, then rebooting using an old kernel, uninstalling all the nvidia-glx packages and the linux-restricted-modules-common/k7 packages, then apt-get clean, then reinstalling them all12:09
l337trying to add to applications menu12:09
l337got in there12:09
jrattner!limewire12:09
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.12:09
nalioth!es mammoth12:09
mweSamePaul: I'm pretty sure /lib/fireware works12:09
ubotues: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB12:09
mweSamePaul: extract it there12:10
SamePaulmwe: Actually only steps when driver installed and wlan0 is up12:10
rlevitincan anyone help me out with some real basic setup??12:10
iulian_morrolan: I generate a pair of public and privae keys, dsa using puttygen12:10
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SamePaulmwe: ok. I'll try12:10
MRAB54morrolan- i know this is ubuntu channel but i figured this would be general linux/unix question12:10
l337just making the shortcut open up in mozilla#12:10
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SamePaulmwe: But shouldn't syslog says something?12:10
morrolaniulian_ ok, then what?12:10
iulian_and I can't figure out how to work with public key on server12:10
l337and more12:10
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l337but thats just to start mate12:10
morrolaniulian_  ahh, ok.  one moment12:10
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RobinLionheartlinx: That worked? Huh, I'll try that. I actually just backed everything up and tried installing Feisty to see if that would use the latest driver. How foolish of me12:11
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linxehRobinLionheart: well, it worked using the latest repository driver12:11
subkelvinhi all, there's some command on ubuntu to rebuild from source? i would like to build with SSE/SSE2 optimizations..12:11
morrolaniulian_ do you have root or SUDO access on the box you want to SSH into?12:11
Spo8Hi, i'm using ubuntu to pull the files off of my main HD after my windows install asploded.  Someone talked me through backing up the files onto an external HD and it was working for a while, but now it claims that the destination HD is read only, so I can't access it.  Anyone know how to get create/delete rights on it again?12:11
linxehRobinLionheart: but if your card doesnt work with that driver I guess you'd need to manually install the latest nvidia driver12:11
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iGadgetre12:11
l337any ideas hflappy12:11
jrattnerWhy would beryl stop frostwire from loading?12:12
jrattner?12:12
Jowiiulian_, here's a nice howto for rsa/dsa to use with ssh: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-satopenssh.html?ca=dgr-btw01OpenSSh-fc12:12
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l337like backtrack12:12
morrolan!ssh |iulian_12:12
ubotuiulian_: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/12:12
l337all tools in app folder12:12
linxehRobinLionheart: the GDM issue you had is almost certainly due to the driver not having the right kernel module available, or that it wasnt built at boot (check /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules to make sure that there isnt a line with "nv" in it)12:12
iGadgethow come ubuntu gets so incredibly slow when installing updates?12:12
morrolanssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub root@fileserver01  also works fine :)12:12
l337this one is simple12:12
morrolanHi, I'm trying to install UFO: Alien Invasion, and I can't because I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1~20060817, and for some reason the ubuntu repo's have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1cvs+20060824?  Trouble is, I can't uninstall or replace it, because practically every GUI app relies on it.12:12
iulian_morrolan: exactly that article I was reading12:12
l337probably12:12
mweSamePaul: I think so. I don't think the firmware should be in a subdir12:12
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atlantiarar!12:12
hflappyl337: add/remove didn't list it huh12:13
RobinLionheartmorro: I hear you, just have no clue12:13
mweSamePaul: I'd put the .fw files in /lib/firmware12:13
atlantiacan someone help me figure out this stupid nvidia-settings weirdness?12:13
l337i got nah12:13
mweSamePaul: hmm12:13
subkelvinputty generate keys in a format that openssh doesn't understand.. maybe ssh-keygen would be better?12:13
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l337i got it from metasploit framework12:13
hflappyl337: if not then best bet is to make a script to load it up or make icon or whaeva and put into menu12:13
morrolaniulian_ and have you done the ssh-copy-id line?12:13
iulian_morrolan: after generating public and private keys on win machine using puttygen i copy the public key to server?12:13
hflappyl337: ya i know12:13
l337added folder to application menu12:13
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hflappyl337: but u want it on the menu system?12:13
rlevitin!ubuntu12:13
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome12:13
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AlexFicellemorrolan: have you tried a soft link to the right name?12:13
atlantiai have it perfect right now... dual twinview... used nvidia-settings w/ sudo to set it up, but the minute i restart X it goes back to being messed up12:13
l337yeah12:13
rlevitin!channels12:13
morrolaniulian_ see subkelivin's response above12:13
ubotuA list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat12:13
iulian_morrolan: i didn;t knew about ssh-copy-id12:13
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tom47!webcam12:13
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:13
bigjohntodayHello all12:13
subkelviniulian_, you must put the public key on a file named ".ssh/authorized_keys" on your home dir..12:14
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l337i added it12:14
iGadgetohwell12:14
RobinLionheartOh cool, webcam info12:14
l337just doesnt open12:14
morrolanAlexFicelle how would I do that?12:14
iGadgetneed to reboot anyway12:14
iGadgetbrb12:14
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hflappyl337: k...have u tried in terminal?12:14
gyaresuHey people. Has anyone here built rtorrent/libtorrent from source?12:14
RobinLionheartI want to get my webcam working. I can't  get that to work in Vista.12:14
l337can open in terminal12:14
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morrolaniulian_ see the bottom of the link I gave you via ubotu12:14
Spo8Can someone tell me how to get create/delete rights on a mounted external harddrive?12:14
rlevitincan anyone help me out with some resolution problems!??12:14
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bigjohntodayan update, I made the assumption i was getting this busybox error due to my SATA drive... probablly wrong so i am now testing an IDE drive12:14
l337u seen backtrack 212:14
hflappyl337: ok just not using menu12:14
l337latest linux mag12:14
hflappyl337: yes12:14
niyidoes anyone know a reason why my make command refuses to work12:14
AlexFicellemorrolan: Well, programs are usually looking for a specific version of a library. So you just link the one you've got to the name your program is looking for.12:14
SamePaulmwe: Nothing...12:15
subkelvinniyi, what it tells to you?12:15
niyii cant install anything12:15
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l337trying to get these apps in application menu12:15
hflappyl337: nope12:15
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niyimakefile not found12:15
morrolanAlexFicelle - doh!  good point.  <<<< wins the dumb question of the night award12:15
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AlexFicellemorrolan: This works for programs already installed that can't find it. I don't think it'll work if it's in their dependencies.12:15
subkelvinwell, to make a source you need a Makefile :)12:15
atlantiai/joi ##linux12:15
l337really good live boot cd12:15
iulian_subkelvin, morrolan: I try to generate keys on server with ssh-keygen but are not recognized by putty12:15
hflappyl337: hmm ya there's like sumtin u gotta do to be able to run console apps via the menu12:15
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niyiyet my ./configure command works12:15
subkelvinyou need to type "make" in the dir where you extracted the source code.. where there's a file named "Makefile"12:15
Jowiniyi, you need to install "build-essential"12:15
hflappyl337: i haven't done it yet..cuz i'm 50/50 on gui and console12:15
l337pain in the ass mate12:16
niyidone that like 3 times12:16
subkelviniulian_, putty has a tool to import a key.. use that tool12:16
l337#just got acer 3680 laptop12:16
iulian_subkelvin, morrolan: I want to use ssh dsa or rsa for tortoisecvs, not to login everytime12:16
AlexFicellemorrolan: That's the whole point of asking people: to help you think. :-)12:16
l337got all to work fine12:16
morrolanAlexFicelle i suppose it could just be being picky12:16
rlevitinJowi: could u help me with something basic?12:16
l337eventually12:16
iulian_subkelvin: ok, I'll try now12:16
Jowirlevitin, depends on what it is :)12:16
subkelvinman.. this is a busy channel :D12:16
l337but getting apps to link is turning out to be hmmmm12:16
bigjohntodayayri feekon12:16
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l337same same12:17
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l337what tools u using?12:17
hflappyl337: nice ;)12:17
rlevitinJowi: I just switched from Fedora to Ubuntu, and am used to 1280 x 1024 resolution... Going to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution doesn't give me an option above 1024 x 76812:17
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AlexFicellemorrolan: I've already had this with a program that absolutely wanted an older version of a library. I simply linked the old version's name to the new one.12:17
Jowirlevitin, what hardware do you have? (videocard + monitor)12:17
gyaresuSorry about the repeat question (I dropped): "Hey people. Has anyone here built rtorrent/libtorrent from source?"12:17
hflappyl337: standard wireshark/ettercap/nessus/BT/airoscript/nmap/12:17
bigjohntodayhas anyone been able to install ubuntu on a SATA drive and using dual DVI video card?12:18
rlevitinJowi: ATI Radeon X700 Pro (It is detected by Ubuntu)   Monitor is a Flatron LCD Generic12:18
mike...12:18
enTityi've got it on a SATA drive and DVI video card right now :D12:18
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rlevitinL1750S12:18
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l337airsnort, nessus, l0pht crack, aircrack, john ripper12:18
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l337stuff like that12:18
gyaresubigjohntoday: Same here; with dual monitors.12:18
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hflappyl337: l0pht is old..hehe12:18
l337u sound like y the same12:19
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bigjohntodayok dual core? intel?12:19
rlevitinJowi: In Fedora the problem was with the monitor, I just had to change the device settings, but I don't know how to do that here12:19
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l337man im self taught12:19
l337:)12:19
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l337work for Apple doing MCSA12:19
l337u know the general stuff12:19
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morrolan!bug report12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bug report - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:20
gyaresu!offtopic > l33712:20
morrolan!bug12:20
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots12:20
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l337man i jknow12:20
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l337cummon12:20
sohumhi12:20
Jowirlevitin, not sure about ATI cards I'm afrraid. you might see !resolution or !ati for help with that.12:20
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subkelvinhey.. what's the command to build .deb packages from source on ubuntu? :D12:20
sohumI have ubuntu running on a desktop machine for some time now12:20
sohumsubkelvin: checkinstall12:20
hflappyl337: apple12:20
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hflappyl337: haha12:20
RobinLionheartAnyhow, time to try to reconcile Sabayon and Ubuntu in GRUB again12:20
bigjohntodayi will explain what is hapenning: I have this dumb box i just purchased a few days ago and been fighting ever since to get ubuntu installed i get it installed in alternate mode because graphical mode does not want to work (text mode using alternate cd) i have a matrox g550 video card and intel core duo 6300 processor.... intel board etc.... but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead saying 12:20
l337pays bills12:20
vrkhanshow i can make a dual boot system12:20
subkelvinsohum, what?12:21
hflappyl337: well thats kew...ya i'm self tought too...i like to mess shEEt up12:21
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sohumand I'm getting a really old laptop (dell latitude c600)12:21
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GoopyMonkeydoes anyone know whether it is possible to boot, not install anything, on the ubuntu 6.10 disc?12:21
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rlevitin!resolution12:21
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:21
hflappygoopy: yes12:21
RobinLionhearthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot12:21
l337me lass hates my addiction12:21
vrkhansand what kind of partition i need in linux12:21
sohumsubkelvin: ./configure, ./make, sudo checkinstall12:21
bigjohntodayoh and the HD is 250gb SATA drive12:21
GoopyMonkeyhflappy:how?12:21
hflappyGoopyMonkey: yes as livecd12:21
sohumsubkelvin: you might have to install checkinstall12:21
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hflappyoh 6.10....uh hmm haven't tried12:21
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Ropechoborrahow can i remap the dameged sectors of my ide?12:22
l337what paswd crackers u using?12:22
sohumand ditrochoosers recommend fedora core, or suse12:22
GoopyMonkeyit just says install, expert boot, etc.12:22
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subkelvinsohum, ok.. will give this a try.. i miss the "make buildworld" from freebsd :D12:22
hflappyl337: haven't used any yet...but john is good12:22
sawowhere ya from?12:22
Jowisawo, all over the world :)12:22
hflappyGoopyMonkey: hmmm...not too sure bud...keep askin tho ;(12:22
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l337this months linux mag is about pen testing12:22
RobinLionheartvrkhans: You probably don't need more than a single Ubuntu partition and a little swap partition12:22
sawofor eample?12:22
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hflappyGoopyMonkey: i just read first part of your question...lol12:22
GoopyMonkeyhflappy: will do ;)12:22
iulian_subkelvin, morrolan: I import private key but is the same result. When trying to connect connect to linux machine I am still prompted for username and password12:22
l337last months had backtrack12:22
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Ropechoborrahow can i remap the dameged sectors of my ide??12:23
bigjohntodaydid anyone get that long statement of mine that i require help with12:23
l337all tools already installed12:23
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SiLVERwhats the best way to get a macosx-like taskbar? gdesklets applet?12:23
hflappyl337: ya they have sum nice tools12:23
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l337really good12:23
subkelviniulian_, you got your public key on the "authorized_keys" file?12:23
RobinLionheartI'm not convinced I even really need the swap with 2GB of RAM.12:23
sohumso anyway, are there disadvantages to maintaining and running both a deb and an rpm based machine? on the same network?12:23
rlevitin!ati12:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:23
hflappybigjohntoday: say again12:23
ablyssgdesklets works well on gnome12:23
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l337what u into hflappy12:23
bigjohntodayoh wow i have to type it up again12:23
ablysscario-dock if you can get it to build12:23
subkelviniulian_, try first to connect using publickey authentication with a unix ssh.. later do on the putty...12:23
bigjohntodayit was like a paragraph12:23
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linuxgooberdoes anyone know how to get an external floppy to work?12:23
hflappyl337: mainly aircrack ;)12:23
RobinLionheartHow much RAM before there's no point having a swap partition?12:24
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bigjohntoday i will explain what is hapenning: I have this dumb box i just purchased a few days ago and been fighting ever since to get ubuntu installed i get it installed in alternate mode because graphical mode does not want to work (text mode using alternate cd) i have a matrox g550 video card and intel core duo 6300 processor.... intel board etc.... but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead saying12:24
sohumanyone, are there disadvantages to maintaining and running both a deb and an rpm based machine? on the same network?12:24
gyaresubigjohntoday: You are having a problem with the matrox.12:24
StoneNotebigjohntoday, it cut off after: but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead sayin12:24
nytejadeYou should always have a swap partition12:24
hflappylinuxgoober: mount it? check dmesg when u plug it in12:24
sgtmattbakercan TVersity (media sharing software) be run in VMware to stream videos to my Xbox36012:24
Pelohow do I make is so that mplayer is the default player in ff ?  instead of totem ?12:24
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JowiSiLVER, you have a few options. gdesklets are ok but not exactly like the osx one. kxdocker comes close12:24
linuxgooberok12:24
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nytejadeLinux will make use of swapfile whether or not you "run out" of ram12:24
l337command line?12:24
SiLVERJowi: ty =)12:24
tehxedwhat does [compile]  Error 2 mean?12:24
sohumanyone, are there disadvantages to maintaining and running both a deb and an rpm based machine? on the same network?12:24
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hflappyl337: ya and also modifying airoscript for madwifi-ng users12:24
bigjohntodaybut for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead saying /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off12:24
iulian_subkelvin, how can I get my public key in authorized keys?12:24
enTitysohum: I do know that if you run deb based systems on the same network, you can set one to cache packages for the other12:25
hflappyl337: airoscript is a nice script made by Daouid and others...but ya itz nice ;)12:25
nytejadebigjohntoday: I was getting that error for a while. Which version are you trying to install?12:25
JowiSiLVER, I use cairo-dock myself (it does not show minimized windows though)12:25
bigjohntoday6.1012:25
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sgtmattbakermaybe your grub and fstab entries need to be changed if you are getting the busybox message12:25
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gyaresubigjohntoday: Oh. That's interesting.12:25
nytejadeAre you installing on a macbook by any chance?12:25
subkelviniulian_, well.. copy and paste.. it's a normal plaintext file..12:25
sohumenTity: cooooool.....12:25
nitro4cei have an error after i install the nvidia drivers. kinda X doesnt start. i get a black screen.12:25
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l337WPA WEP cracker?12:25
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sohumok thanks guys12:25
hflappyl337: wep...only 64bit wep out here....and open ;)12:25
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bigjohntodayright now i chagned to an 80GB IDE drive in hopes it resolves the problems if not i am stumped12:25
subkelvincat "id_dsa.pub" >> ~/.ssh/authorized__keys would do the trick...12:25
pilgrimWhen I click on any help buttons in gnome programs help (xml format) opens in firefox. How do I fix this?12:25
enTitysohum: I have this book called "Ubuntu Hacks" from o'reilly books, and it shows how to do it12:25
l337where u at uk here12:26
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iulian_subkelvin, ok, I'll do it now12:26
tehxedwhat does [compile]  Error 2 mean?12:26
mdl178What can I do about certain gnome applications having HORRIBLE looking fonts (tall, stretched-out, not even really readable)?12:26
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subkelviniulian_, check if id_dsa.pub is your pub key.. maybe your generated on another file ;)12:26
gyaresutehxed: What are you trying to do?12:26
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kane77mdl178, what engine does the app use? (qt, gtk, gtk2)12:27
l337to much wine man im seeing stars12:27
CITguydoes anybody know if/how I can set my background to a HTML document?12:27
tehxedgyaresu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30571212:27
tehxedgyaresu, that's what i'm trying12:27
niyimake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.12:27
niyithat is going to be the beginning of my convert back to windows12:28
tehxedgyaresu, when I do "sudo ./hgcompile", I get that error12:28
RobinLionheartYuck, WEP12:28
iulian_subkelvin, it is. I am not shure where that public key should be stored. I put it now in authorized__keys12:28
subkelvinniyi, what you're installing don't have a linux binary? :)12:28
bigjohntodayniyi, read the INSTALL document I am sure it will have all the information you require12:28
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subkelviniulian_, the ssh-keygen should told you where it put your keys...12:29
kitchesubkelvin: or it doesn't have a make file some apps don't use that setup12:29
l337this is what the linux OS has apart from windows12:29
gyaresubigjohntoday: Are only running the 1 SATA drive? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=47449312:29
l337a life12:29
gyaresul337: Will you please take it #offtopic12:29
subkelvinkitche, it has a make file, from the error the makefile don't have a default target..12:29
bigjohntodaygyaresu: yes only one but now i switched to IDE to see if that would work12:29
RobinLionheartI went to WPA2 as soon as I updated my XP box with the KB hotfix that adds WPA2 support, and I upgraded my Linksys Wireless-G router firmware to support it too12:29
l337man cummon12:29
gyaresubigjohntoday: I reckon it will...12:30
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niyiyes i followed the instructions12:30
subkelvinniyi, have you tried "make all"  or "make install" (be carefull with make install)12:30
l337sorry12:30
kitchesubkelvin: and no makefile found.12:30
l337im on wine here12:30
niyistill it refuses to acknoledge the presencese of a make file12:30
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l337anyway12:30
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niyiyep12:30
l337appy u got any ideas mate12:30
subkelvinkitche, lol.. with the apt-get stuff i don't know why someone build from sources when don't know much about programming..12:30
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bigjohntodayI flippin hope it will I am quite ticked at the moment at this NEW PC that sux more than my 5 year old pc!!!!12:30
niyii jsut cant get it to make the binaries12:31
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_eMaX_re12:31
_eMaX_since my upgrade to evolution 2.9.91 evolution core dumps often. can I with apt-get go back to a previous version?12:31
jlamrany know how to connect my linux comp to my windows one. they're on the same router12:31
jlamrto share files12:31
_eMaX_!samba12:31
subkelvinniyi, have you looked on the packages? some apps need special versions of make to build.. like bsd make or something..12:31
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:31
tehxedgyaresu, when I do "sudo ./hgcompile", I get that error12:31
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subkelvinniyi, btw, you tried "./configure" first?12:32
AdamBer1i got a new monitor that supports a larger resolution, i don't have the resolution listed when i try to change monitor resolutions now.12:32
jlamrsamba seems a bit like overkill, isnt there a simpler way?12:32
niyiyep... apparentlythis works with ubuntu edgy (which is what im using)12:32
bigjohntodaygyaresu: I can install main OS on IDE and use the SATA as a mounted secondary storage drive right, shouldn't have any problems doing that should I?12:32
niyiyes12:32
subkelvinniyi, no erros on ./configure?12:32
niyinope12:32
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gyaresubigjohntoday: Should be able to use the SATA... Maybe it's a kernel problem.12:34
iulian_subkelvin, I do this: ssh-keygen -t dsa and generates both keys in folder ~.ssh/. I let my public key there and copy my private key on win machine, convert it using puttygenerate, open putty, new session but i have to put my password and username12:34
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subkelvinno one here knows a command line for build a package from source? i'm new to this ubuntu/debian stuff12:34
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gyaresutehxed: You were getting an error 2 message right? Could you post it again please12:34
bigjohntodaygyaresu: honestly as long as I can use something as for the OS and get this system up and running I wouldn't mind using 250g's for storage..... but if it does not work as well then i will be uterlly stumped!12:34
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gemini9hello12:35
rlevitin!xorg12:35
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:35
StefanNuxollsubkelvin, hi, I believe I can help you12:35
subkelviniulian_, ok.. you pasted your public key into the authorized_keys? i don't know much about putty using public keys :(12:35
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gemini9i just d/l ed opera v. 9.10 running Kubuntu12:35
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gyaresuiulian_: This is what I use to jog my memory: http://linuxproblem.org/art_9.html12:35
tehxedmake[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic'12:35
tehxedmake: *** [compile]  Error 212:35
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tehxedgyaresu,12:35
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subkelvinStefanNuxoll, :) i'm trying to build optimized packages.. i read about something like apt-build.. but can't find it12:35
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gemini9anyone have input, pls?12:35
jrib!info apt-build | subkelvin12:36
gyaresutehxed: Yep?12:36
ubotusubkelvin: apt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB12:36
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tehxedgyaresu, make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic'12:36
tehxedmake: *** [compile]  Error 212:36
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StefanNuxollsubelvin they are thinking about apt-get, which lets you build source packages, why do you want optimized packages might I ask?12:36
subkelvinduuhh.. need to install it first :D.. don't know why ubuntu don't have some basic utils like the "ftp" console client =\12:37
iulian_subkelvin, yes, if authorized_keys is a directory in ~.ssh, where ssh-keygen generated my files12:37
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christianphi all12:37
gyaresubigjohntoday: You can only try then. Have you tried a LiveCD to see if it can boot up and access the drive? Might help figure out what's missing.12:37
subkelvinStefanNuxoll, just curious about the speed using gcc optimization flags12:37
gemini9i did install it, subkelvin12:37
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vrkhanscan any one help me in partitioning my hard drive12:37
subkelviniulian_, authorized_keys is a file.. not a directory12:37
vrkhansfor linux12:37
christianpis there a graphical ssh/ftp client permitting to transfer files from a remote server to another?12:37
jrib!ftp | christianp12:38
iulian_:(12:38
ubotuchristianp: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd12:38
vrkhanswhat kind of partition i need to install linux12:38
gyaresuvrkhans: You can just let Ubuntu automatically do it. Do you need something specific?12:38
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iulian_subkelvin, gyaresu, I get it now12:38
vrkhansya i have a dual boot system12:38
betatuxchristel, you can use nautilus to connect to a ssh server and download/upload/edit files etc12:38
StefanNuxollsubkelvin, for everyday use on most PC's optimized packages are not important...if you really want an optimized system, Ubuntu is not for you, and you should give Gentoo a shot12:38
subkelvingemini9, sorry?12:38
StoneNotechristel, sudo apt-get install putty12:38
iulian_subkelvin, gyaresu, I'll try to put it in autorized_keys12:38
betatuxchristianp,  you can use nautilus to connect to a ssh server and download/upload/edit files etc12:38
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Puschmanmubutu12:39
vrkhansand i keep 20 gb for linux12:39
bigjohntodaygyaresu: well it still didn't load now i am attempting to go into recovery mode12:39
gyaresuvrkhans: (preface your statement with the person nick that you are talking too)12:39
vrkhansok12:39
bigjohntodaygyaresu: I get a kernal panic, what do you think may be causing this?12:39
christianpbetatux: i have to transer files from a server to another server without passing through local machine12:39
gyaresubigjohntoday: LiveCD? I'd give it a try.12:39
subkelvinStefanNuxoll, i know it, but i can build the packages and install it on ubuntu, right?12:39
gyaresubigjohntoday: It can't find the primary drive I reckon...12:39
starlybigjohntoday: vanilla kernel?12:39
vrkhansgyaresu, I keep 20gb for linux12:39
betatuxchristianp, i see12:39
bigjohntodaystarly: yes generic kernel12:40
gemini9i DID install Opera, subkelvin, at least the from the front page of site... do i need term mode?12:40
mini_gq: if i update the kernel, but nothing else, should edgy still work?12:40
tehxedgyaresu,  "/home/usman/alsa-driver/acore/../alsa-kernel/core/rtctimer.c:133: warning: implicit declaration of function is_power_of_2"12:40
vrkhansis that enough12:40
gyaresuFor some reason the installer finds everything and then the installed kernel is missing something...12:40
bigjohntodaygyarseu: isn't the ubuntu desktop basically the liveCD?12:40
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vrkhansgyaresu i didnt get you12:40
StefanNuxollsubkelvin: You can only build source deb packages, if you wish to do so, make sure you have the development libraries that the packages require and install them through "apt-get source"12:40
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gyaresutehxed: Could you pastebin the last chunk of messages that it's failing on please?12:41
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gyaresuvrkhans: Now I'm speaking to you :)12:41
subkelvingemini9, you didn't NEED term mode.. or console..12:41
vrkhansgyaresu now how much space should i reserve for the boot swap and root12:41
StefanNuxollsubkelvin: also make sure to use the -b flag when doing so, then apt will build it after it downloads, which it won't otherwise12:41
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geeksaucewhen accessing my SMB shared folders on my ubuntu box from my windows machines, it asks for a username and password.  any way to disable this?  my xbox can read the share just fine with no auth12:42
gyaresuvrkhans: I reckon you should get the gparted livecd to make yourself a 20GB chunk. That way ubuntu should just leave it alone for you. Let me find the link.12:42
subkelvinStefanNuxoll, ok.. will give it a try.. thanks for the helf12:42
subkelvinops.. help12:42
starlywith apt-get source i would be able to downgrade xorg with apt, i suppose?12:42
Vletmy installation keeps stalling at 48%.. if the cd was corrupt, it wouldn't just stall would it?12:42
gyaresuvrkhans: You can do all that stuff manually if you want but it's easier to let the installer take care of it.12:42
gyaresuvrkhans: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php12:43
PhlostenVlet: why not?12:43
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StefanNuxollsubkelbin: No problem, that's why I am here.  Feel free to ask if you need more help.12:43
SpudDoggIs there a way to set up Ubuntu so that I do NOT have to enter my password all the time?  For example, every time I open Synaptic, Network settings, or when I run 'sudo <command>'?12:43
_eMaX_all: if in e.g. feisty I have one program that doesn't work reliably (evolution) how would I go back to the previous version of that same program, as of edgy?12:43
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VletPhlosten: well, I dunoh.. nevermind :)12:43
starlySpudDogg: you could login as root, but it's very unsecure12:43
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VletPhlosten: I would assume the installer would recieve an error from the cdrom12:44
PhlostenVlet: have you tested the cd with the option in the menu when you start the cd?12:44
geeksaucei can enter my ubuntu username and pass and it will work, but the idea is for my roommates to have access to my shared folder with no password or username12:44
Vletdoing so now12:44
gemini9i was on Opera home page, and d/led the browser12:44
madd_mattSpudDogg, I'd recommend just typing your password in.  Although it is a bit more annoying in gnome than kde....12:44
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vrkhansgyaresu what kind of file system i should use12:45
subkelvinSpudDogg, sudo has an option to let a user run programs as root without password, don't if it works on ubuntu.. but maybe worth a try12:45
tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/36966412:45
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gemini9i restarted my pc, and Opera is Not in my browser menu..did i miss something?12:45
gyaresuvrkhans: ext312:45
vrkhanswhich one is better12:45
starlySpudDogg: if you do all the things by command-line-interface you could set your "timeout-time" for sudo to a really big time and then you have to type your password only once per terminal12:45
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vrkhanswhat about that ReiserFS12:45
starlySpudDogg: to achieve this, you have to read "man sudoers"12:45
geeksauceanyone?12:45
vrkhanssomeone is saying use that12:45
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SpudDoggstarly, madd_matt, subkelvin: ok, thanks for the info12:46
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Xzenomegeeksauce, from your computer or over a network?12:46
gyaresugemini9: Use the ubuntu repos: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main12:46
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VilhelmsFor some reason nm-applet won't connect to my home wireless network but it does to my work network.12:47
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tehxedgyaresu, any ideas?12:47
vrkhansgyaresu what you think about the ReiserFS12:47
gyaresuvrkhans: Remember to preface. It's very noisy in here. Just use ext3. Trust me.12:47
vrkhansok12:47
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gyaresutehxed: Sorry. Just a second.12:48
vrkhansi have gparted on this live cd12:48
geeksauceover the LAN in my house12:48
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vrkhansgyaresu i have that gparted on this live cd12:48
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vrkhanscan i use that12:48
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tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369664; incasw you need it again12:48
geeksauceXzenome, over the lan in my house (sorry forgot nick prefix)12:48
gyaresuvrkhans: yep. you can.12:48
Xzenomegeeksauce, this is a crap solution but you could just serve it by http and then they can access it in their browser.12:48
gyaresuvrkhans: remember to reboot after changing/creating partitions with a livecd12:49
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gyaresuXzenome: geeksauce: sounds like you just want a samba share for user 'guest' with no passwd.12:49
pilgrimHow do I change the file associations with programs?12:49
geeksauceXzenome, yeah that is what i want12:49
mini_gif i update the kernel, but nothing else, should edgy still work?  i am wanting to get the nvidia drivers working on a no internet computer, so i thought that i might as well get the latest kernel along with its source.12:50
pilgrimBecause I have firefox that's trying to open XML help documents.12:50
vrkhansgyaresu it gives me an error , saying root privileges are required for runnig gparted12:50
XzenomeSo, install apache2 via apt-get and then put your documents in /var/www12:50
vermoosif i'm paranoid about my (illegal) multimedia packages, how can i monitor stuff that's going on on my system?12:50
gyaresutehxed: So you've got the fujitsu t64210 as well?12:50
vrkhansgyaresu what should i do12:50
gyaresuvrkhans: 'sudo gparted'12:50
Xzenomegeeksauce: So, install apache2 via apt-get and then put your documents in /var/www12:50
VilhelmsFor some reason nm-applet won't connect to my home wireless network but it does to my work network. Does anyone have any clue why this would happen?12:51
vrkhansgyaresy i didnt get you12:51
idefixhow can you tell if you have a 32- or a 64-bit environment?12:51
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vrkhansgyaresy what should i do12:51
tehxedgyaresu, no.. Gateway MX711812:51
subkelvinidefix, uname -a12:51
tehxedgyaresu, we're talking about laptops, right?12:51
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gyaresutehxed: Same soundcard though?12:51
tehxederr no12:51
tehxedi don't think so12:51
PrestwickHey guys, any recommendations for a decent Video Editing program for Linux?12:51
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jribPrestwick: kino, pitivi12:51
gyaresutehxed: didn't you post this as what you were doing?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30571212:52
PrestwickCgeers Jrib12:52
PrestwickCheers even12:52
tehxedgyaresu, yes I did12:52
yomm Prestwick : cinelerra12:52
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tehxedgyaresu, following a suggestion from xanatus12:52
geeksauceXzenome, why do i need to install webserver software for that?  i mean why can my xbox read the share just fine with no auth?12:52
gyaresutehxed: so why are you following this guide?12:52
tehxedgyaresu, following a suggestion from xanatus12:52
PrestwickCheers Yomm12:52
|PrinCo|hi12:52
LOLZebrano12:52
Xzenomegeeksauce, what are you sharing it with?12:52
tehxedgyaresu, I have a Gateway MX7118 Laptop, with Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 installed. The problem is that the sound is in and out. If I restart it goes out. If I restart again, it comes back... only sometimes.12:53
gyaresutehxed: let's start at the begining... What exactly is the problem/ are you trying to achieve.12:53
geeksauceSMB12:53
geeksauceXzenome, smb12:53
tehxedgyaresu, I have a Gateway MX7118 Laptop, with Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 installed. The problem is that the sound is in and out. If I restart it goes out. If I restart again, it comes back... only sometimes.12:53
vrkhansgyaresu: what i should do12:53
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gyaresuSound stops? Sound stops and starts only after reboots or whilst you are using it?12:53
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tehxedgyaresu, after reboots12:54
vrkhansgyaresu: what you said about to do with gparted12:54
gyaresuvrkhans: about what?12:54
Xzenomegeeksauce, sorry I've never used the smb protocol12:54
tehxedgyaresu, I don't know what gparted is12:54
gyaresuvrkhans: didn't you just want a 20GB partition separate to the rest of the drive?12:54
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vrkhansgyaresu12:54
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subkelvingeeksauce, there's an option on the smb.conf file to set if guest is ok or not ok in a share.. maybe that?12:55
vrkhansgyaresu: i tried to run it12:55
mini_gq answered.12:55
iulian_subkelvin, gyaresu, it worked with keys generated on linux machine12:55
vrkhansgyaresu:from the command prompt12:55
gyaresutehxed: It's cool I'm talking to two people. Can you please post your 'lspci' via pastebin?12:55
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vrkhansgyaresu: but erro root privilages need12:55
iulian_and private key converted with puttygenerate12:55
tehxedgyaresu, I noticed. Thanks for your help12:55
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gyaresuvrkhans: What livecd are you using? Do you have the desktop?12:55
geeksaucesubkelvin, i'll check but i don't think so because my xbox reads it and doesn't even prompt for auth12:55
vrkhansgyaresu: i am using the live xbuntu cd12:55
subkelviniulian_, so.. it worked? :)12:55
vrkhansdesktop12:55
lisapcwhen I run a xbuntu livecd, it run and loaded. but when I chos INSTALL, it stops at 86%. But when I install it on anothe computer, it installs fine.  Does this mean my notebook cannot install or support Ubuntu?12:56
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Josh120Hello12:56
martin-I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu into live-mode, after the loading bar reaches the end I just end up with a blank black screen. I'm using a Radeon 9800XT by the way.12:56
idefixsubkelvin? Linux vincent 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Dec 12 15:56:39 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux12:56
idefix ? what do I have 32- or 64-bit?12:56
subkelvingeeksauce, so your xbox can read the files on the share, but your friends with xp dont?12:56
gyaresuvrkhans: so did you try 'sudo gparted'?12:56
iulian_subkelvin, yes :) finally12:56
subkelvinidefix, i686 it's a 32bit :D12:56
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SpAwNlisapc, use the install dvd/cd's the live ones suck...they compleatly messed up my partion table and messed everything up12:56
iulian_subkelvin thanks for help12:56
subkelviniulian_, nice :D12:56
idefixthx12:56
geeksaucesubkelvin, correct12:56
tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/36967712:56
tehxedgyaresu, that's the lspci12:56
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gyaresutehxed: cheers.12:56
Aggrav8dhello! :)12:56
subkelvingeeksauce, well... maybe that part on the xbox wasn't write by MS :D12:57
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SpAwNlisapc, or at least use the "text" based installer on the live dvd12:57
vrkhanslet me12:57
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gyaresutehxed: desktop machine?12:57
firefly2442My time is correct in the commandline but incorrect in Gnome, is there a way to change it?12:57
geeksaucesubkelvin, it wasn't... my xbox is hard modded12:57
subkelvingeeksauce, have you tried the guest option on the smb.conf?12:57
gemini9am at that dapper site, gyra12:57
tehxedgyaresu, laptop. A Gateway MX7118.12:57
Aggrav8di've been trying to google something without success, i hope one of you can help me.  I'm looking for info on how to manage domains more quickly and easily.  ideally I'd be able to manage them through another web page.  anyone know of a page talking about how to do this?12:58
lisapcSpAwN so i should download and install the proper kbuntu cd?12:58
vrkhansgyaresu:12:58
vrkhansgyaresu: now its running12:58
gyaresutehxed: shitty little ac'97 sound chip...12:58
firefly2442ugh, nevermind, UTC time12:58
gyaresuvrkhans: cool.12:58
SpAwNlisapc, yes if it is kde(kubuntu) you want to use. or use the text based installer.....that worked for me12:58
tehxedgyaresu, I think so. Just need it to function.. that's all12:58
vrkhansgyaresu: i wnat to make a dual boot system , should i first install windows first12:58
lisapcSpAwN the text based installer?12:58
vrkhansgyaresu: and then install linux12:58
subkelvinAggrav8d, have you looked for "webmin".. maybe there's something better these days..12:59
vrkhansor it doesnt matter12:59
geeksaucesubkelvin, i will look, but what about using NFS to share instead?12:59
lisapcSpAwN where can I download the 6.10 kbuntu and ubuntu?12:59
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subkelvingeeksauce, i don't know if windows can access NFS shares by default.. on the 2000/ME it need a driver for it =\12:59
SpAwNlisapc, yea put in the dvd.reboot.when it starts the dvd...it should ask do you wan to.......and hopefully there should be a option with somthing about text12:59
lisapcSpAwN so just because the xbuntu livecd didnt install, doesnt mean my notebook cant install ubuntu?12:59
tehxedgyaresu, brb12:59
gyaresuvrkhans: If you install XP first then the ubuntu install disk will find it automatically and you probably don't need to mess around with partitioning yourself. (Kind of like I recommended :)01:00
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gyaresutehxed: np01:00
SpAwNlisapc, no no......if you want xubuntu dl the xubuntu cd.01:00
SpAwNlisapc, the live dvd/cd will start?..and just not install?...or01:00
geeksaucesubkelvin, that's fine.... if they want my files they can DL a driver :)01:00
lufisFeisty's bug reporter tool actually expects you to sign up for a launchpad account. How is that at all user-friendly? On Windows XP crashes and errors are sent right to Microsoft automatically. No signing up for anything required.01:00
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lisapcSpAwN the xbuntu livecd starts and works fine.  but when I chose INSTALL, then it stops at 86%01:01
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subkelvingeeksauce, that sounds fair to me :D.. and i think NFS is faster than SMB01:01
gizmo_the_great1hi. Trying to format device as ext3 using mkfs.ext3. kepp getting this error "/dev/hdb is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!". Any thoughts?01:01
SpAwNlisapc, yea then *ubuntu WILL work.01:01
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tehxedgyaresu, back01:01
geeksaucesubkelvin, fastest way to set that up?01:01
martin-anyone have a clue regarding the blank black screen occuring after the splash screen?01:01
lisapcSpAwN so where cna I download 6.10 full ubuntu install CD?01:01
Jowigizmo_the_great1, it might be mounted. "mount" should show you if that's the case.01:01
SpAwNlisapc, just see if there is a text based installer on the dvd/cd if not dl the install version..the live one isnt too good at installing01:02
SpAwNlisapc, try gogole01:02
gizmo_the_great1Jowi: already checked. it isnt01:02
subkelvingeeksauce, no, faster in file transfers.. well.. setup in NFS is easy too.. only edit the /etc/exports file01:02
SpAwNlisapc, i dont have alink on hand01:02
lisapcSpAwN why would the xbuntu liveCD install fine on other systems, but not mine?01:02
firefly2442lisapc, try the alternative CD01:02
Jowigizmo_the_great1, "sudo fdisk -l" to see if /dev/sdb is the actual partition.01:02
lisapcSpAwN whats gogole?01:02
SamePaulsomeone knows about HOTPLUG?01:02
SpAwNlisapc, luck of the draw...diff hardware01:02
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Jowigizmo_the_great1, hdb i meant01:02
SpAwNlisapc, lol google.com01:02
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lisapcSpAwN ;)01:02
gyaresutehxed: when you 'don't have sound', can you alsamixer?01:03
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geeksaucesubkelvin, i meant what is the quickest way to install NFS and get it set up01:03
tehxedI can still see it01:03
tehxedTHe sound icon to the top right01:03
SpAwNlisapc, so yea...i had the same issue so dont get discouraged :-)01:03
StoneNotelisapc, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease01:03
tehxedI can even play something in VLC Player ..an mp3 or something, but no sound comes out.01:03
rgawhich line I place in grub so that it initiates windows ?01:04
crimsuntehxed: pastebin your ``amixer'' output01:04
gyaresutehxed: (preface nick) Can you open up alsamixer. I reckon the problem you have is levels...01:04
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lufisrga: did it not do it automatically?01:04
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roho!beryl01:05
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:05
rgalufis my ubuntu is 6.0601:05
tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/36968801:05
tehxedWhat do you mean open up alsamixer?01:05
lufisrga: if you installed ubuntu after windows, it should do it for you01:05
tehxedoh ok01:05
tehxedgyaresu, they're all full volume01:05
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crimsuntehxed: try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute01:05
VilhelmsFor some reason my window borders are all gone, I can't Alt+tab and none of the windows show up on the task bar :( Could someone please help me?01:06
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lufisVilhelms: run "metacity"01:06
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rkyraccoon55how do you change your screen resolution in ubuntu?01:06
tehxedcrimsun, You sir.. ..holy crap01:06
gyaresuHey crimsun. tehxed; post the output of amixer to pastebin like crimsun asked... or try the above command first :)01:06
Vilhelmslufis: Thanks! That fixed it. Why wouldn't it load on boot?01:06
lufisVilhelms: dunno... have you changed anything in the sessions window?01:07
tehxedcrimsun, I remember you.. from ..over 8 or 9 months ago01:07
gyaresutehxed: Lot's easier than debugging compile errors eh? :)01:07
tehxedgyaresu, oh yes01:07
gyaresutehxed: He lives here.01:07
tehxedgyaresu, it's working fine01:07
colbertHello, how do I access my Windows XP partition and Vista drive in Ubuntu ???01:07
Vilhelmslufis: I disabled beryl manager, but I could've disabled something else by mistake. Thanks! I will check :)01:07
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tehxedcrimsun, helped me a whooollee long time ago when I was installing it on a different laptop01:07
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lufisVilhelms: i did the same once... pretty irritating not being able to move windows :P01:08
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Vilhelmslufis: Yeah haha it is01:08
geeksaucesubkelvin, still with me?01:08
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subkelvingeeksauce, yes.. sorry.. :D only a little away01:08
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gyaresucolbert: ntfs-3g is good for the xp drive. Vista... Don't know what filesystem it uses.01:08
subkelvingeeksauce, so you got the nfs running?01:08
rkyraccoon55how do you change your screen resolution?01:09
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gyaresu!resolution01:09
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ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:09
a5benwillisVilhelms: Make sure you have AddARGBGLXVisuals True in the device section of your xorg.conf01:09
Slartrkyraccoon55: in System, Preferences, Screen resoultion I think01:09
Vilhelmslufis: Could it be the "nautilus --no-desktop"? I don't know if thats correct but that is on my sessions01:09
geeksaucesubkelvin, nah that's what i need help with :)01:09
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rkyraccoon55slart: yea i just saw that and now feel pretty stupid01:09
lufisVilhelms: could be, but i wouldn't change it. just make sure metacity is there01:09
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Slartrkyraccoon55: hehe.. no worries..we all do that at one time or another01:09
Vilhelmslufis: Alright01:10
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stealhi all01:10
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lufisVilhelms: nautilus is the file manager but also manages the desktop, so that's not pertinent to your situation01:10
kILLusionhi01:10
morganwhat happened to automatix....???....01:10
tehxedgyaresu, So how do I undo all of these steps I did with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305712?01:10
lufisVilhelms: metacity manages windows01:10
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subkelvingeeksauce, well.. you need to install it on the ubuntu and edit the /etc/exports line.. i don't know much ubuntu.. so maybe i'm not the best person to help you01:10
Vilhelmsa5benwillis: That option is not even in my device section, should I add it?01:10
kILLusionafter installing ubuntu 6.10 i cant boot, recovery mode doesnt work, too01:10
Slartmorgan: what do you mean? it's gone?01:10
a5benwillisVilhelms: Do you get windows that open and wont move? You have to click alt to move them?01:10
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kILLusionit hangs after usb detection01:10
a5benwillisyes01:10
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Aggrav8dsubkelvin - thanks for the suggestion re: webmin01:11
Vilhelmsa5benwillis: Nooo... just metacity wasn't open... it works fine when I open metacity :)01:11
kILLusionbut booting the cd and running the setup worked01:11
steali can't play music with new users01:11
gyaresutehxed: You never got to 'sudo make install' did you?01:11
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tehxedgyaresu, no, i didn't01:11
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tehxedgyaresu, got that error we were trouble..mainly you were troubleshooting01:11
a5benwillisOption "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"01:11
geeksaucesubkelvin, ok thanks, i'm sure someone can help me in here01:11
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a5benwillisdo you have nvidia vid card?01:11
gyaresutehxed: Good then all you did was try to make the binaries in those directories. Nothing got installed in the system. So you can just delete those dirs.01:12
morganwhat happened to automatix....???....01:12
hflappyhmm...are the repo's down?01:12
geeksaucecan anyone help me set up NFS file sharing?01:12
Vilhelmsa5benwillis: ATI01:12
tehxedgyaresu, Wicked!01:12
tehxedgyaresu, thanks01:12
gyaresutehxed: yes.01:12
gyaresutehxed: no problem.01:12
tehxedcrimsun, Thanks.. again man01:12
subkelvingeeksauce, the packages is nfs-user-server and the exports syntax is very simple01:12
a5benwillisVilhelms: Ah, that could be different then.....01:12
tehxedcrimsun, if you have some time, I need help with setting up wireless01:12
tehxedcrimsun, probably something simple again01:12
Vilhelmsa5benwillis: Heh :) Yeah, it seems to be workign fine now though01:12
gyaresutehxed: *cough*01:13
tehxedgyaresu, , ...have any idea how I can get the BCM4318 Airforce card to work with Ubuntu Edgy?01:13
kILLusionwhy can't i boot ubuntu 6.10 on my athlon xp 2600+? it hangs at usb detection :/01:13
Slartmorgan: what do you mean "happened"? what about automatix doesn't meet your expectations?01:13
christianpbetatux: can i use wget to download files via ftp?01:13
gyaresutehxed: Open a command prompt. type 'iwconfig'.01:13
betatuxchristianp, yep wget can do that01:13
Xzenomegeeksauce, I found the guide very useful http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing01:13
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christianphow can i say to wget the port i have to connect to?01:14
gyaresutehxed: you got any 'wireless extensions' ?01:14
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christianpand then the path?01:14
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subkelvinchristel, ftp://user:password@host:port/path01:14
geeksaucesubkelvin, if i set it to allow by ip address and enter my default gateway as an allowed ip, will it allow all devices on my network?01:14
tehxedgyaresu, What do you mean by that?01:14
betatuxchristianp, and there's a GUI for wget called gwget01:14
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christianpbetatux: it's not possible, i'm on the server via ssh ;)01:15
SamePaulhow to install HOTPLUG?01:15
gyaresutehxed: You know the command prompt? A 'terminal'?01:15
subkelvingeeksauce, no.. your need to tell it to allow to your network and a netmask.. something like 255.255.255.0 as netmask will do for you i think..01:15
betatuxchristianp, like subkelvin says above01:15
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tehxedgyaresu, terminal, yes.01:15
gyaresutehxed: Are you on gnome or kde?01:15
christianpah,ok , i see01:15
SamePauli try make isntall but it fails!01:15
tehxedgyaresu, was that sarcam?01:15
tehxedgyaresu, gnome i believe01:15
christianpthanks friends :)01:15
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gyaresutehxed: no. serious.01:16
tehxedgyaresu, yeah, it says gnome in the start!01:16
patrick_I just finished installing ubuntu for the first time !!!!!! bye bye to xp01:16
SamePauli just hate it...01:16
geeksaucesubkelvin, yes that is my subnet mask, but how do i tell it to allow my network?01:16
lufispatrick_: woot :)01:16
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patrick_i need some help.. everything seems to work out of the box but my wireless is kinda slow01:16
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r0bby!!!!!01:17
Bikarbonatoh great.... the trolls are out01:17
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morgandoes anyone know what happened to automatix....???....01:17
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kILLusionwow01:17
jaekhe thinks he is so smart01:17
tehxed...holy crap01:17
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subkelvingeeksauce, put something like this: "/path/to/files -network=192.168.0 -mask=255.255.255.0 -ro" that works on my openbsd :D01:17
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Bikarbonatlovely, Return of the Script Kiddie, Part 201:17
blazelol01:17
XzenomeIs there an Ubuntu social channel on IRC?01:17
gyaresutehxed: if you type the command 'iwconfig' it's like ifconfig for wireless devices. Should show ath0 or wlan0 or something...01:17
Slartmorgan: why don't you tell what your wondering about.. is it gone? not working?01:17
jribXzenome: #ubuntu-offtopic01:17
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Xzenomethankyou01:18
TwoPintsi've installed swat with apt-get on samba, but when i point my browser to localhost:901 i get a connection error01:18
TwoPints what have i missed?01:18
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gyaresuXzenome: sorry. yes, what he said.01:18
r0bbyTwoPints: we just got flooded :P01:18
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ubotuIf you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server01:18
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tesukithe mass spam of the words "UBUNTU SUCKS ASS" how do I get info how to create such a thing?01:18
SamePaul!root01:18
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:18
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lufistesuki: do you really think we'll tell you?01:19
TwoPintsrobby: yes i see are we in moderated more or something?01:19
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tehxedgyaresu, , get that?01:19
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morgandoes anyone know what happened to automatix....???....01:19
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB01:19
jribmorgan: have you tried #automatix?01:19
subkelvingeeksauce, sorry.. on ubuntu i think is "/path  192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)" the docs don't help much with ip adresses..01:19
gyaresutehxed: Hey what?01:19
Slart!automatix > morgan01:19
kILLusioncan any1 tell me why ubuntu 6.10 crashes after install on boot?01:19
r0bbywhat's the point behind trolling?01:19
blazemorgan,  try automatix201:19
blazelol01:19
r0bbyare you THAT pathetic that you have troll?01:19
morganthe site apears to be gone....01:20
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tesukilufis: I see no reason why you shouldn't?01:20
sbtacoanyone know of some good firmware for bcm4318 wireless card?01:20
SamePaul!wlan > SamePaul01:20
blazeIll find the site for you this will take a minute tho01:20
lufistesuki: you don't see a reason why people in an irc chat wouldn't tell you how to flood an irc room?01:20
morgantry it....01:20
SamePaul!wireless > SamePaul01:20
morganit's been down all day....01:21
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tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/36970901:21
tesukilufis: just wanna know what it is called. why should I use it it's annoying right?01:21
TwoPints(second time sry) i've installed swat with apt-get on samba, but when i point my browser to localhost:901 i get a connection error01:21
TwoPints  what have i missed?01:21
morganwondered if the mpaa got them or one of those nazi orgs....01:21
geeksaucesubkelvin, i am using the GUI to configure allowed networks.  my router address/default gateway is 192.168.1.1; i'm assuming that's what i put in the network field?01:21
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elkbuntur0bby, what is the point of harping on about trolling and hence giving the trolls the attention they desire?01:21
gyaresutehxed: man you got wireless rocking.01:21
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tehxedgyaresu, but.. i can't connect to it!01:22
gyaresutehxed: Everythings working for you today :)01:22
tehxedgyaresu, no dude! =(01:22
tesukilufis: nope01:22
tehxedgyaresu, it's not connected.01:22
subkelvingeeksauce, put 192.168.1.0 and netmask 255.255.255.0.. i don't know the gui for nfs :(01:22
SamePaulHOW TO INSTALL HOTPLUG? Anybody knows?01:22
tehxedgyaresu, "Access Point: Invalid"01:22
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transgressSamePaul: hotplug is outdated.  it's udev now01:22
gyaresuWhat you need is a wireless manager... Wait a second, let me ask.01:22
kILLusioncan any1 tell my why ubuntu 6.10 crashes on my athlon xp 2600+ directly after install on boot?01:23
patrick_where do you get a wireless manager?01:23
gyaresuHey everyone. What's the Gnome equivalent to knetworkmanager?01:23
SamePaultransgress: thanks. Can I use it for wireless too?01:23
blazemorgan, did it work?01:23
PriceChildtesuki, You don't want to know how01:23
subkelvinkILLusion, it depends where it crashs01:23
lufiskILLusion: can you give us some more details? anything strange happen? non-standard hardware, maybe?01:23
geeksaucesubkelvin, why 192.168.1.0?  that is a non-existent ip on my network01:23
morganno....go to the site....it's gone.....01:23
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transgressSamePaul: i fail to see why not.  if your card is supported.  what do you mean?01:23
kILLusioni tried recovery mode but it also hung01:23
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gyaresuAnyone? Easy to use Wireless GUI for teh noob under Gnome?01:24
geeksaucetransgress, what painkillers?01:24
subkelvingeeksauce, when you use netmask you must zero the bits where the netmask are open.. so 255.255.255.0 open the last byte.. you must zero the ip so the netmask will do it.. it's different when you configure your NIC01:24
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transgresskILLusion: you could try booting into a livecd, and viewing the logs01:24
lufiskILLusion: ok... try this: at boot, press esc to enter the grub menu. when it comes up, select the longest line and press "e", remove the words "splash" and press "b"01:24
tesukiPriceChild: is it so har d to give me a name01:24
SamePaultransgress: I installed driver for Intel 2200BG (iwp2200) but it does not load firmware, since it requires hotplug service01:24
transgressgeeksauce: I forget.  i hurt my back at work today and had to go to the hospital01:24
subkelvingeeksauce, short answer: when you put this on a server/daemon process you zero the ip :D01:25
kILLusionok01:25
PriceChildtesuki, I was referring to how to spam like the above when you asked how01:25
lufiskILLusion: that will boot up without the progress bar01:25
geeksaucetransgress, good stuff apparently, haha01:25
blazemorgan, i can't believe you haven't tried apt-get01:25
blazethat should be the first thing you try01:25
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PriceChildtesuki, I was referring to how to spam like the above when you asked how01:25
PriceChildwhoops01:25
tehxedgyaresu, ...?01:25
blazeapt-get install automatix201:25
PriceChilddidn't mean to re-send sorry01:25
tehxedgyaresu, how do i show to you that wireless is not connected via the terminal or any other way?01:26
blazeyou don't need the site to be up for apt-get. That's the beauty of it.01:26
geeksaucesubkelvin, ok i'll try that... do you know where i can get the driver for xp?01:26
tesukiPriceChild: too spam as above has no reason no.01:26
gyaresutehxed: no-ones talking. So I reckon you should install 'network-manager'.01:26
tehxedgyaresu, ...I think I've tried this.01:26
subkelvingeeksauce, don't know.. maybe it's on the xp installation.. i'm almost sure xp have this driver on it's install disk.. but isn't installed by default01:26
morganit still sucks the site is gone....that guy did good work....01:26
tehxedI..hold on01:26
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dejxhelo01:27
SamePaultransgress: Or maybe it is not the problem... But I'm close to smash this NB! I'm f***g 4 hours with wireless and can't get it working!01:27
dejxwhat's the command to choose what env will load when you type startx (gnome or kde or xfce or fluxbox,...)01:27
gyaresutehxed: It's cool. I'm trying to find a simple GUI solution for you. What encryption do you use on the access point?01:27
dejxxwmconfig or something01:27
blazeexactly01:27
dejx?01:27
tesukiPriceChild: so i want too know how to do it. which would let me gain access to that do it my self. and useless knowledge is always funny01:27
gemini9am struggling with Opera browser...01:27
subkelvindejx, it's the ~/.xinitrc file01:27
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dejxsubkelvin,  i dont have such file01:27
gemini9in term mode...got to install--help... listed file names..01:28
tehxedgyaresu, no encryption. mac address filter.01:28
tehxedgyaresu, I think that's the right response. It's got no security01:28
transgressSamePaul: eh i'm trying to find some info01:28
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transgresshold up01:28
gemini9i'm a former windoze user, trying to win this thing01:28
dejxbrb01:28
patrick_why is my wireless so slow?01:28
dejxkilling x01:28
tehxedgyaresu, ..and I've enabled the mac address for the wireless card01:28
subkelvinwell.. if you do "echo "fluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc" and type "xinit" it will open X with fluxbox01:28
QuanChi2hey01:28
tehxedgyaresu, http://download.yousendit.com/5056D29A250E835601:28
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QuanChi2hey01:29
QuanChi2i need help01:29
patrick_ask your question01:29
QuanChi2i'm trying to make a dual boot01:29
arrenlex!ask | QuanChi201:29
ubotuQuanChi2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:29
SamePaultransgress: alright. Send me private message if you fund something01:29
davidwinterI can't boot from a CD or Floppy. I can't change the boot order either in BIOS--don't know the password. Is it possible to remove Windows somehow so that the hdd doesn't boot and then moves onto the CDrom drive which will allow me to install Ubuntu?01:29
patrick_someone help me? my wireless is slow01:29
davidwinterthe boot order is 1) Floppy, 2) HDD, 3) CD-ROM01:29
QuanChi2for a partition and the lowest memory i can give the partition is 57.2GB01:29
lufisdavidwinter: maybe remove the pwd jumper on your mobo?01:30
QuanChi2i don't want to give it that much.. i wan't to give it 30 gigs..01:30
transgresspatrick_: need more info than that buddy... like information about your wireless would be good01:30
lufisdavidwinter: if it has one, that is01:30
blazeQuanChi2, you can resize your partitions01:30
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QuanChi2how?01:30
blazedurring the install phase01:30
gyaresutehxed: yeah. right. Just saw you picture.01:30
davidwinterlufis: it's an old Dell laptop, and I don't really want to go lurking around inside01:30
transgressdavidwinter: if it goes to floppy first why can't you boot from floppy?01:30
Jejemhi guys, someone can help me with a edgy > feisty upgrade trouble ?01:30
davidwintertransgress: no floppy drive01:30
blazeJejem whats wrong?01:30
lufisdavidwinter: oh, nevermind then01:30
transgressdavidwinter: ah heh.01:30
davidwinterit has Windows ME currently installed on it :(01:31
transgressJejem: try ubuntu+101:31
davidwinterand I just want to get Ubuntu up and running01:31
gyaresutehxed: can you post the output of 'iwlist eth0 scan'01:31
QuanChi2blaze01:31
QuanChi2HOW01:31
lufisdavidwinter: just wipe windows i guess, it will default to the cdrom hopefully01:31
transgressdavidwinter: you don't want windows at all?01:31
blaze!partition01:31
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:31
davidwintertransgress: nope01:31
Jejemthx transgress01:31
davidwinterjust Ubuntu01:31
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patrick_transgress - dell laptop d610-- just installed linux.. i didnt install any drivers cause i dont know how.. though wireless is working out of the box just really slow01:31
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blaze!partition QuanChi201:31
blazeaww01:32
patrick_mobile 915 mb wireless card01:32
blaze!tell QuanChi2 partition01:32
gemini9i put Kubuntu on this, removed windoze completely01:32
blazenever works01:32
patrick_915gm*01:32
blaze;(01:32
gemini91.0 GB Ram, 250 HD :)01:32
QuanChi2blaze, look, i just want to make the partition with 20gb01:32
tehxedgyaresu, eth0      No scan results01:32
QuanChi2before installing ubuntu...01:32
rkyraccoon55i have kind of a complicated question01:32
gyaresutehxed: So you must have set the essid "virus" manually?01:33
tehxedI believe so01:33
rkyraccoon55anyone got time? im sure its an easy answer01:33
tehxedShould I remove it?01:33
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morganis there an alternative to automatix....???....01:33
QuanChi2blaze01:33
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QuanChi2you there?01:33
blazeQuanChi2, What?01:33
Slartmorgan: there's easy-ubuntu01:33
gyaresutehxed: There is no viewably wireless networks. That's the problem.01:33
linux_alienhi, can anyone point me in the right direction please? i'm trying to install the ati drivers and have to re-compile the kernel but when i run make it says - No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.01:33
transgressdavidwinter: try this page http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/2005/01/09/ubuntu-netinstall-without-cdrom/01:33
QuanChi2all i want to do is make a partiton of 20gb before i install ubuntu01:33
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blazeQuanChi2,  Okay, what operating system are you using now01:33
morganty....01:33
gemini9why only 20GB?01:34
QuanChi2Windows01:34
tehxedgyaresu,  Alright, the SSID .. IS broadcasting.. the channel is set to auto.01:34
QuanChi2I'm on a ubuntu live cd right now01:34
gyaresuQuanChi2: you can just use gparted from a livecd01:34
rkyraccoon55how do you use files from a different hd?01:34
transgresspatrick_: why type of wifi card is it?  and what version of ubuntu01:34
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QuanChi2i don't want to mess up my Windows partition01:34
lufisrkyraccoon55: are they windows files?01:34
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Slartrkyraccoon55: other hard drives are either in the /mnt/ dir or in the /media/ dir01:34
patrick_checking transgress.. thanks for the help!01:34
blazeIt wolnt01:34
rkyraccoon55lufis: its music01:34
QuanChi2ok01:34
themachinehow can I play sounds from multiple programs at once?01:34
gyaresuQuanChi2: Ubuntu should find it and add it to the boot loader automatically.01:34
QuanChi2how do i find gparted, then01:34
blazeyou have to resize your windows partition if you want another one01:34
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gemini9yikes, sharing it with windoze01:35
tehxedgyaresu, you have aim or anything? this is sort of getting really tiring01:35
rkyraccoon55slart: thanks again01:35
lufisrkyraccoon55: yeah, but the filesystem has to be readable regardless. what is the filesystem?01:35
QuanChi2i've never done a partition before01:35
rkyraccoon55lufis: yea, i usually use it with windows01:35
transgressthemachine: what type of soundcard?  it should be supported by dmix by now, but on some cards that use dmix java and a few others fsck the sound up01:35
stonarmusicanyone help me with compiling a program, 'gtk-gnutella'01:35
geeksaucesubkelvin, nah i can't find a free client01:35
blazego to applications --> accessories --> terminal and then type "gparted"01:35
SamePaultransgress: so you've got something?01:35
gyaresutehxed: Yeah but then you won't get the benefit of others being right whilst I'm being wrong ;)01:35
transgressSamePaul: nope.  best i can see is it should be working, but i'm still looking.  is it a pcmcia card?01:35
SpamKidsI have installed a SSH Server, all right? So, when I do a port scan from my computer, the port 22 is open, all right! But, when I try a port scan from other computer of internet, the port 22 don't apear. =( Only my 80 of Apache. Why? I supose that must exist any config file that authorizat the extern access. Anybody knows what can I do?01:35
transgressor usb?01:35
themachinetransgress, no soundcard, integrated audio01:35
rkyraccoon55lufis: it doesnt have windows installed on it but i use it as an extra hd for my windows01:36
transgresseh same difference, but what type01:36
eromerohello everyone, i'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 on my desk but i already have a linux system there, so i want to select the partition where its going to be installed. How ever when i do that on the "Prepare mount points" screen i get an error that says "No root filesystem"01:36
transgressthemachine: ^01:36
SamePaultransgress:  No. It is mini-PCI01:36
QuanChi2omfg01:36
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QuanChi2i've never partitioned before, this is too advanced01:36
eromerowhat em i doing wrong01:36
gyaresutehxed: So silly question. The wireless light is on the router and you are relatively close to the router with your laptop?01:36
tehxedgyaresu, worse comes to shove? install xp again..01:36
rohoi have a laptop. how do i find out my video card for the beryl config file?01:36
transgressQuanChi2: WWJDFAKB01:36
transgresspartitioning is teh easy.  just read a howot01:36
transgresshowto even01:36
tehxedgyaresu, not a silly question. i'm about.. 5 feet. and I know you're thinking "is it a wireless router?".. yes, yes it is01:36
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gyaresutehxed: nah. You've got the wireless device recognised. That's the hard bit.01:37
themachinetransgress, I'll try dmix, thanks01:37
linux_alien:(01:37
QuanChi2i right click the ntfs partition and click New?01:37
transgressand then after you get your partitions setup, ubuntu installed... then build a kernel01:37
QuanChi2is that how i do it?01:37
lufisrkyraccoon55: it's more than likely ntfs. google for "ntfs ubuntu" to get a guide to install ntfs drivers. i've never done it myself so i dunno01:37
transgressthemachine: it should be running already01:37
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subkelvingeeksauce, there's a download from microsoft called "UNIX services for windows".. that may do it, and it's free.. but MS :(01:37
transgressthemachine: but what programs are not playing sounds at multiple times?01:37
SamePaultransgress: I gues that problem is in HOTPLUG because in example syslogs I see more prints than I see on my ubuntu01:37
Xzenometransgress, don't say teh it makes people hate you. :P01:37
SpamKidsQuanChi2: you are talking with me?01:37
QuanChi2anyone01:37
rkyraccoon55lufis: thanks01:37
lufisrkyraccoon55: no prob. in fact, hold on, i'll find one for you01:38
gyaresutehxed: nah. I was thinking. Maybe you're not 'broadcasting' the essid or maybe the wireless part is turned of in the router. "Check that it's plugged in"01:38
transgressXzenome: but teh drugs won't let me stopxors01:38
tehxedgyaresu, xanatus showed me how to get the mac address of the router to be recognized manually01:38
themachinetransgress, xmms can play, but a flash movie on a web page wont. same situation whenever playing a video and trying to play music at once01:38
rkyraccoon55lufis: thanks again01:38
tehxedgyaresu, the wireless..?01:38
tehxedgyaresu,  ..it is01:38
themachineonly one at a time01:38
geeksaucesubkelvin, yeah i'm looking at that now... i think it might be for doing the opposite of what i'm going for though01:38
transgressthemachine: what type of integrated audio?01:38
rkyraccoon55lufis: without this channel i'de have given up on ubuntu01:38
stonarmusicIt says I need the latest version of libxml2, and when apt-get it, it says that I have the latest version installed01:38
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lufisrkyraccoon55: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700901:38
lufisrkyraccoon55: me too :P01:38
themachinetransgress, intel01:38
QuanChi2i'm just trying to make a damn dual boot01:38
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subkelvinsee that url i PM to you..01:39
transgressthemachine: i still need the model... i810?  hd?01:39
linux_alienhelp D-:01:39
gyaresutehxed: Ditch the mac filtering for now me thinks. Log into the router and just set it to defaults (as far as wireless is concerned). Just see if you can see it then. Then we can worry about encryption.01:39
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SpamKidsPeople, exists some chanel to Ubuntu Filosofy?01:39
gyaresutehxed: make sure the router is 'broadcasting essid'01:39
themachinetransgress PIV01:39
tehxedgyaresu, double checking01:40
gyaresutehxed: I'll go grind some beans... back soon.01:40
tehxedgyaresu, the thing is... the router is roommate's.. =\01:40
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nutterpctehxed:  hit it with a hammer01:41
gyaresutehxed: tell him that mac filtering is totally pointless. Under linux you can just see who's connected and then change your mac to theirs. Voila! Router hacked...01:41
stonarmusicanyone help me with compiling gtk-gnutella? It says I need the latest version of libxml2, and when apt-get it, it says that I have the latest version installed01:41
KeyseirI just put together a new computer, currently running off the livecd and it seems to be working great. I put in the HD I was running off of before, but I can't seem to boot off of it or see it as existing from the livecd. The computer is noticing the HD at startup.01:41
nutterpcit'll work then01:41
tehxedgyaresu, he's not home, so I'm going to try this without mac filter anyways..01:41
tehxedthen set it back01:41
subkelvinstonarmusic, are you apt-getting the libxml dev version?01:41
transgressthemachine: that is the processor chip.  /sbin/lspci | grep audio01:41
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subkelvinstonarmusic, apt-get install libxml2-dev?01:42
nutterpcKeyseir: done a bios reset?01:42
stonarmusicsubkelvin- not sure, how do i check?01:42
stonarmusicsubkelvin - no i didnt do it like that, should i try that?01:42
Keyseirnutterpc, No. New computer, it's recognizing the HD. Why should I reset the bios?01:42
geeksaucesubkelvin, wow huge file and i'm already maxing out my bandwidth with torrents and usenet.  where is the smb.conf file?  i searched the whole hard drive and it didn't return any results01:42
patrick_transgress Intel(R) PRO Wireless 2915ABG  edgy eft 6.1001:42
subkelvinstonarmusic, yes.. to compile you need the "-dev" version..01:42
nutterpcresetting the bios can sometimes help01:42
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nutterpcclears all the settings01:43
stonarmusicsubkelvin - k, thanks01:43
subkelvingeeksauce, /etc/samba/smb.conf maybe01:43
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nutterpcboot with the default mobo settings, then if it sees it, adjust the bios to your liking01:43
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QuanChi2Do i click "Resize/Move" when i right click my main partition?01:43
QuanChi2do i click "New"?01:43
QuanChi2-.-01:43
Keyseirnutterpc, the hd was set as slave on the old machine though I believe Everything was installed on it. I switched it to Master with the jumpers, could the problem have something to do with being installed as IDE Slave previously?01:43
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themachinetransgress, I have /bin/lspci , not sure if its right01:44
nutterpcshouldn't make a different01:44
nutterpcdifference*01:44
transgressthemachine: yeah that should work01:44
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Keyseiralright, I'll try resetting the bios.01:44
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themachineah great. Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)01:44
gyaresutehxed: I think I've seen it before but it is weird that your wireless device has shown up as eth0. That usually means you have no ethernet device. Which is odd.01:44
transgressthemachine: edgy?01:45
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gyaresutehxed: Did you check that the essid is broadcasting?01:45
tehxedyeah01:45
tehxedsec01:45
tehxedlet me show you01:45
themachineno, I mean it worked01:45
transgresspatrick_: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15693001:45
up365How do I set XMMS to play CDs and get rid of SoundJuicer ?01:45
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themachinedo you think its supported transgress?01:45
patrick_transgress thank you.. checking01:46
transgressthemachine: i know it is.  i use it on my laptop01:46
nutterpcset ubuntu to launch xmms when an audio cd is inserted01:46
nutterpcup365:01:46
nutterpc^^01:46
themachineah, so what mixer would allow me to do multiple programs at once?01:46
geeksaucesubkelvin, i don't see anything in that file that would require auth to view shares.  in fact, i see the exact opposite01:46
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SamePaultransgress: but it uses hotplug for firmware too!01:47
arrenlexWhat's -r do?01:47
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subkelvingeeksauce, on your share you see a line like "guest ok = yes" ?01:47
tehxedgyaresu, http://download.yousendit.com/CB58C6237A324439  Check it01:47
themachineI don't have dmix running. I did a ps -e | grep dmix01:47
computerhermitthis is wonderful01:47
transgressthemachine: what version of ubuntu are you using?  it should by default.  you can build alsa if you like and use the alsa you built instead of the one in the kernel01:47
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tehxedgyaresu, I also checked to see if it was being picked up on a Windows machine.. ..it was being picked up01:48
nutterpcwhat is computerhermit?01:48
computerhermitthis OS01:48
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nutterpc:)01:48
up365I thought thats what I did in system-preferences-removable drives and media when I placed this command xmms %U nutterpc01:48
themachinewhat command tells me about my ubuntu?01:48
transgressthemachine: it's part of alsa... it's running01:48
nutterpcdistro u mean :P01:48
computerhermitI had no luck getting online with my wireless card01:48
arrenlex!version | themachine01:48
ubotuthemachine: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell01:48
subkelvingeeksauce, your shares should be on the end of the file01:48
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computerhermitbut weith this version it works01:48
tehxedgyaresu, I also checked to see if it was being picked up on a Windows machine.. ..it was being picked up01:48
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tehxedgyaresu, http://download.yousendit.com/CB58C6237A324439  Check it01:49
themachineversion 5.1001:49
gyaresutehxed: Yep got it.01:49
nutterpcsometimes everything just needs a helping hand *hands up365 painkillers*01:49
nutterpclol01:49
gyaresutehxed: hmmm.01:49
lufisthemachine: whoa, any reason you're still using that?01:49
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bkudriai was upgrading to feisty from edgy and it errored out when installing libc - and now all my programs segfault, including apt-get.  what can i do?  i'm booted into a livecd, and i can chroot into the system, but i cannot boot directly into the system.  what can i do?01:50
geeksaucesubkelvin, there are three lines that say "guest ok=no" in three different sections (netlogon, profiles, and print$), but they are all commented out01:50
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up365nutterpc, in other words you dont know01:50
themachineah, is there a command like apt-get update my entire system?01:50
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nutterpcI would have to have a look man01:50
themachineincluding ubuntu01:50
arrenlex!upgrade | themachine01:50
ubotuthemachine: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:50
nutterpcgimme a few mins to finish me lunch01:50
SamePaulhow to install damned HOTPLUG?01:50
lufisSamePaul: what's the issue?01:50
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subkelvingeeksauce, ok.. now find your share.. and put a line that says "guest ok = yes" on that.. and check that "writable = no" so noone can delete your files :D01:50
tehxedgyaresu, ..so..what say you?01:50
gyaresutehxed: sorry, could you post your lspci again please.01:50
themachineok I guess I can upgrade my whole system01:50
computerhermitI cant belive Iam online with Ubuntu01:51
tehxedgyaresu, gladly01:51
tehxedgyaresu,  sec01:51
lufisthemachine: i'd actually suggest waiting until feisty is released if you don;t mind waiting until april01:51
gyaresutehxed: kettle...brb01:51
lufisthemachine: but yeah, 5.10 is pretty old01:51
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themachineone whole month! ;)01:51
SamePaullufis: Instruction on install of IWP2200 says "copy firmware to /lib/hotplug/firmware01:51
computerhermitno drivers no notheing and I was subjecting myself to nukerosoft soo long because my wireless card wasent about to connect iam so happy01:52
up365nutterpc, I replaced the soundjuicer command in Play audio CDs when inserted with the XMMS command01:52
SamePaullufis: but i DON'T have /lib/hotplug01:52
tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369748  my lspci01:52
computerhermitI got one problem01:52
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colbertCan someone please help me to access my XP partition in Ubuntu??01:52
lufisSamePaul: hmm... i don't know, that's not my area of knowledge. try googling the hardware name and "ubuntu"?01:52
arrenlexcolbert: read-only, or writing also?01:52
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colbertarrenlex: Both would be preferred01:53
bkudriai was upgrading to feisty from edgy and it errored out when installing libc - and now all my programs segfault, including apt-get.  what can i do?  i'm booted into a livecd, and i can chroot into the system, but i cannot boot directly into the system.  what can i do?01:53
TonrenIs there an application that will display informatin like window type & class for whatever my mouse is currently hovering over?01:53
arrenlex!ntfs-3g | colbert01:53
ubotucolbert: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:53
SamePaullufis: I'd better hand myself01:53
arrenlexTonren: xprop01:53
SamePaulhang01:53
computerhermitwhen I updated with the updatemanger after everything was installed  my wireless card was gone so I booted to the other Kernl01:53
colbertarrenlex: thank you01:53
lufisSamePaul: nah ;) one sec01:53
arrenlexyw01:53
Tonrenarrenlex: Not what I click on - what the mouse is over01:53
geeksaucesubkelvin, there is already a line that says "public=yes"... what does that refer to?01:53
Tonrenarrenlex: I'm trying to get info on what type of window the KMenu is01:53
arrenlexTonren: Can't you click on it?01:53
nutterpcup365: having a look now01:54
computerhermitand now everything fine with older01:54
Tonrenarrenlex: No, xprop will give me the info for the kicker.01:54
SamePaullufis: I'm fighting it 4 hours. One second is reasinable enough :)01:54
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subkelvingeeksauce, well.. don't know really :D.. let me see01:54
up365nutterpc, thanks01:54
Tonrenarrenlex: And I can't think of a way to trigger xprop while Kmenu has already been opened01:54
SamePaulreasonable01:54
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quanchi2k01:54
quanchi2guys01:54
tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369748  my lspci01:54
computerhermitanyone see what Iam typeing01:54
computerhermitam I here01:54
quanchi2How do i create a Dual Boot with GParted?  Any tutorials?01:54
computerhermithello01:54
Keyseirnutterpc: I went into bios and loaded defaults. Started up, the motherboard makes One beep while it sort of "passes up" booting on the HD, and then switches to the CD.01:54
quanchi2yes01:54
kitchecomputerhermit: yes01:54
quanchi2i do01:54
gyaresucomputerhermit: yes01:55
khaije1whats the method of choice for getting remote desktop w/ sounds ? any suggestions?01:55
lufisSamePaul: what version of ubuntu are you using?01:55
subkelvingeeksauce, well.. public is the same as guest ok.. maybe you need to put public on the netlogin.. i'm not that good on samba :D01:55
gyaresutehxed: checking...01:55
computerhermitIam also dule booting with Extra Problems (XP)01:55
SamePaullufis: 6.1001:55
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quanchi2i don't know how to dual boot with gparted.. that's my problem01:55
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computerhermitI just used free space01:55
SamePaullufis: kernel  2.6.1701:56
gyaresutehxed: so what about the output of 'dmesg |grep eth'01:56
computerhermitlet me see what kernel Iam useing01:56
computerhermitthis is great01:56
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Tonrenarrenlex: Any ideas?01:56
geeksaucesubkelvin, netlogon is for domain-controlled networks... my LAN does not use domains01:56
LordUltimaDavidis OpenSUSE's site down?01:57
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subkelvingeeksauce, as i told you.. i'm not that good with samba.. :).. the public option should do it for you...01:57
kitcheLordUltimaDavid: how are we suppose to know this is a #ubuntu channel01:57
transgressLordUltimaDavid: why would you come in here just to ask thta?01:57
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transgressLordUltimaDavid: looks like it.  maybe it got hacked again.01:57
tehxedgyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/36975601:57
lufisSamePaul: I don't know. try creating the directory i guess?01:57
lufisSamePaul: sudo mkdir /lib/hotplug01:58
quanchi2omfg01:58
gyaresutehxed: Have you google'd for your wireless card? I found some interesting stuff. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19017701:58
quanchi2this is too hard01:58
LordUltimaDavidwhat are the major differences between openSUSE and ubuntu, i have been using ubuntu for 1.5 years now01:58
geeksaucesubkelvin, ok hopefully someone in here is a samba buff :)  thanks for helping me though01:58
SamePaullufis: I made it and copied fw as it written. But wlan does not appear anyway01:58
arrenlexTonren: Still there? Sorry, I accidentally pressed the shortcut that turns off my computer, rather than the button that opens the k menu. xD01:58
arrenlexTonren: Here is xprop for the k menu: http://arrenlex.ls.la/kmenu01:58
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lufisSamePaul: oh, sucks. i have no idea, a google search doesn't bring up anything helpful01:59
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geeksaucei need some help configuring samba to allow XP boxes to connect to my SMB shares without prompting for auth01:59
SamePaullufis: scheisse...  :'(01:59
tehxedgyaresu, tried it already01:59
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tehxedgyaresu, done it01:59
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arrenlexLordUltimaDavid: Ubuntu is based on debian, and so it uses .deb packages. openSuse is based on, well, Suse, which uses .rpm packages.01:59
transgressLordUltimaDavid: well there are a lot more gui's for crap in opensuse.  i mean guis to set up everything.  but they are all slow, and package management is the slowest i have ever experienced in any distro in opensuse.  not to badmouth it.  i'm using it on this box.  for a little bit longer.  but you have to hack around more stuff in opensuse, media playback is a bit more annoying, but 64bit setup is nicer than ubuntu, but not as fast.01:59
lufis:(01:59
nutterpcup365: got it working01:59
subkelvingeeksauce, try to use "security = share" instead of the default "security = user" and restart samba...02:00
bengoodgerhello. can someone please help me reinstalling grub from a livecd? guides are non-helpful02:00
Tonrenarrenlex: How'd you get it?02:00
nutterpcnow just workin out up365 how to get it to autoplay02:00
gyaresutehxed: You've tried it? That means you are using ndiswrapper with binary drivers?02:00
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arrenlexTonren: Launched xprop > kmenu in the terminal, then pressed ctrl+esc to open kmenu, then clicked it.02:00
computerhermitthe live cd was cool02:00
nutterpcis manual load/play ok with you?02:00
tehxedgyaresu, when I try to do modprobe ndiswrapper ...02:00
LordUltimaDavidtransgres: thanks02:00
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tehxedgyaresu, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument02:01
SamePaullufis: i tried to install hotplug, but make install failed. have any idea how to overcome?02:01
LucianSolarisHEY, DOES anyone have any idea how to get Kaffe/java to use a higher JRE so it quits erroring on me when I try to execute my java program: "java -jar proggie.jar"?  It uses the Scanner class but JRE 1.x doesn't have Scanner, only JRE 5 and up.02:01
gyaresutehxed: sudo?02:01
Tonrenarrenlex: Weird... it looks like it has no window type??02:01
geeksaucesubkelvin, what will that do?02:01
lufisSamePaul: do you have the /lib/firmware directory? i have it on my system02:01
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tehxedgyaresu, already root but will try anyways02:01
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transgresstehxed: rmmod your other wifi driver, set up ndiswrapper with drivers first, and then load it.02:01
gyaresutehxed: no diff.02:01
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tehxedgyaresu, same error02:01
bengoodgerI've installed windows and cannot make my linux box boot02:01
SamePaullufis: yes02:01
At0mic_PCHey guys anyone know where they write greasemonkey scripts?02:01
bengoodgereven though they're on different hard disks02:01
transgresstehxed: like go through and ndiswrapper -i file.inf ndiswrapper -l ndiswrapper -m then modprobe it02:01
tehxedgyaresu, what?02:01
jribAt0mic_PC: userscripts.org ?02:02
mauanybody have a preferred laptop to run ubuntu?02:02
subkelvingeeksauce, it will tell samba to enforce security based on the share the client is conecting to.. and not the user that is connecting.. as your samba is only for your LAN that should be ok02:02
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tehxedtransgress, I ..you're going to have to bring it down a notch02:02
lufisSamePaul: ok, just a min. let me figure this out02:02
tehxedgyaresu,  what do you mean "no diff."02:02
At0mic_PCjrib: Thanks02:02
gyaresutehxed: OK. This is the same problem as the sound. You need to be more explicit with what you've already done. Otherwise the person helping you is asuming that you're starting from scratch.02:02
transgresstehxed: okay.  first, do you have the windows drivers for your card that you are planning on using?02:02
SamePaullufis: no porblem!02:02
tehxedgyaresu, ah, i'm sorry02:02
lkraiderLucianSolaris: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun02:02
lufisSamePaul: what's the contents of the directory that you downloaded in the firmware package?02:02
nutterpcup365: you there still man?02:02
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subkelvin!msn02:02
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:02
tehxedgyaresu, I've tried one other thing. I'll give you a link. sorry02:02
gyaresutehxed: no difference between sudo and running as root for modprobing.02:02
up365nutterpc, I with you man02:03
tehxedgyaresu, http://my.opera.com/dantesoft/blog/show.dml/28655702:03
bengoodgerthe guides on reinstalling grub don't work: can someone please assist me?02:03
geeksaucesubkelvin, but user settings are configured public=yes, so why would it make a difference?02:03
tehxedgyaresu, tried this too http://my.opera.com/dantesoft/blog/show.dml/28655702:03
vaxzillahi02:03
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tehxedtransgress, on a usb i do..02:03
arrenlex!hi | vaxzilla02:03
ubotuvaxzilla: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:03
nutterpcpm up36502:03
quanchi2can someone please work with me personally to teach me how to make a dual boot?  I'm afraid of deleting my primary partition.  If anyone can forward me to a good guide or walk me through, I'd appreciate it.02:03
jamesbrosehow can I chmod a big directory full of lots of files?02:03
vaxzillai am new to opera but i think i like it already02:03
jribjamesbrose: chmod02:03
bengoodgerjamesbrose: -R for recursive02:04
arrenlexjamesbrose: chmod -R <whatever> <dir>02:04
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vaxzilla '<02:04
jamesbroseIts over 3000 files and it won't let me :(02:04
LucianSolarislkraider, i'm getting this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file02:04
Hoxxinvaxzilla: word :D02:04
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quanchi2?? anyone?02:04
arrenlexjamesbrose: "won't let me"?02:04
jribjamesbrose: use find and xargs02:04
transgresstehxed: okay well you need to go ahead and use install those drivers in ndiswrapper before it will modprobe for some reason... so go to the directory of the mounted usbstick (probably /media/usbstick) and ndiswrapper -i windowsdriver.inf and it will install them02:04
jamesbrose[root@localhost Music] # chmod 777 *02:04
jamesbrosebash: /bin/chmod: Argument list too long02:04
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jamesbroseI get that02:04
LucianSolarislkraider, my jar was written in bluej and compiled (jar-ified) in netbeans 5.502:04
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gyaresutehxed: ahahahaha. Yes. _That_ is pertinent information :)02:04
geeksaucesubkelvin, "security=user" is commented out anyway02:04
quanchi2can someone please work with me personally to teach me how to make a dual boot?  I'm afraid of deleting my primary partition.  If anyone can forward me to a good guide or walk me through, I'd appreciate it.02:04
subkelvingeeksauce, ok.. last try.. googling for it i found someone saying about you needing to tell samba about the guest account.. but i think you need help from a samba guy :D02:04
arrenlexjamesbrose: Because you don't follow instructions.02:04
lkraiderLucianSolaris: did you do the command I posted?02:04
arrenlex(18:04:05) arrenlex: jamesbrose: chmod -R <whatever> <dir>02:04
lufisSamePaul: did you download the driver package?02:04
LucianSolarislkraider, yes02:04
bengoodgerquanchi2: use a partitioner to resize the partition, and then make a couple of new ones as appropriate in the empty space02:04
vaxzillai am new to opera browser you think i will like it?02:05
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tehxedeeerr...02:05
LucianSolarislkraider, netbeans uses JRE602:05
cmh0101anyone know of a good  avi to dvd program for linux?02:05
kitchejamesbrose: sudo if the files are owned by root02:05
quanchi2vax, i have no idea what you're talking about.02:05
tehxedgyaresu, sorry about that.02:05
lkraiderLucianSolaris: you installed java 6?02:05
SamePaullufis: Yes. driver 1.2.1 and fw 3.002:05
quanchi2You're not saying much02:05
nutterpcup365: if you can pm me I'll show ya what to put to make xmms also see the drive02:05
gyaresutehxed: s'aight.02:05
jribjamesbrose: what directory is this btw?02:05
quanchi2I'm new to partitioning02:05
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LucianSolarislkraider, yes, that's how netbeans used it..02:05
bengoodgercould someone _please_ help me reinstall grub? I really need access to my data02:05
jamesbrosejrib, lots of music files02:05
lkraiderLucianSolaris: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun02:05
Hoxxinvaxzilla: once u get used to it u never wanna go back02:05
tehxedtransgress, extracting the drivers right now02:05
quanchi2I'm trying to use GParted02:05
vaxzillayou know the web browser named opera02:05
lufisSamePaul: okay... what's in the firmware package? list the files if there's not too many02:05
kitchevaxzilla: opera is good if you don't want to use firefox it hogs memory sometimes firefox does02:05
vaxzillaokay02:05
Regnerwhat command can I use to find free space and used space ?02:05
up365nutterpc,  OK02:06
At0mic_PCjrib:  http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/7122 I think this is what I was looking for. Thanks again.02:06
LucianSolarislkraider, thanks, it works02:06
jribjamesbrose: do you know how to use find to accomplish this?02:06
jamesbroseI want to chown them all to user 'james' and chmod to 777, jrib02:06
lkraiderRegner: df -h02:06
jamesbrosejrib, nope :*02:06
vaxzilla 8-)02:06
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lkraiderLucianSolaris: :D02:06
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quanchi2Can someone please work with me personally to teach me how to make a dual boot?  I'm afraid of deleting my primary partition.  If anyone can forward me to a good guide or walk me through, I'd appreciate it.  I'm trying to use GParted.02:06
SamePaullufis: ipw2200-bss.fw ipw2200-ibss.fw ipw2200-sniffer.fw02:06
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jribjamesbrose: why do you want music files to be executable?02:06
bengoodgerjamesbrose: chmod -R 777 james:jrib <directory> I think02:06
SamePaullufis: and license :)02:06
geeksaucesubkelvin, i appreciate your help, but every time you tell me to seek help from a samba guy, i ask with no nick prefix, and you answer back again so people don't reply to my question as they think it's already being taken care of :)02:06
transgresstehxed: and do you have some other alternative driver that ubuntu is using now?  i forget what you said your card was... if so you need to rmmod otherdriver  and then blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist02:06
bengoodgerquanchi2: what's the problem with gparted? you just click "resize"..02:06
computerhermitI have no sound02:06
quanchi2resize?02:07
SwiftIRC041Hey can someone help me really quick. I need to find some kind of installation guide based on ubuntu that can show me how to set up multibooting with Windows XP :P02:07
quanchi2that's it?02:07
lufisSamePaul: ok... where is the firmware package extracted to?02:07
quanchi2then what?02:07
quanchi2resize it to what?02:07
kitche!dualboot | SwiftIRC04102:07
ubotuSwiftIRC041: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)02:07
SwiftIRC041ty :)02:07
subkelvingeeksauce, ok.. i will keep my silence :D02:07
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jamesbrose<bengoodger>, that worked :[] 02:07
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stonarmusichere's my paste of my gtk-gnutella errors when i compile it:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7287/02:07
bengoodgerquanchi2: yes, then you go click apply... then choose "guided partitioning into unallocated space" from the options02:07
quanchi2i need a partition for Ubtunu.  I want to give it 20GB02:07
nutterpcup365:  xmms -d /mnt/cdrom %d <--- chuck that in, see if it works for ya02:07
computerhermitwhen I try to login as su it sayes I entered the wrong password anyone have this problem?02:07
nutterpcits working for me02:07
SamePaullufis: home/ipw/iwp2200-fw-3.002:07
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geeksaucesubkelvin, haha thanks for trying though :)02:07
jrib!sudo | computerhermit02:07
ubotucomputerhermit: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:07
bengoodgerjamesbrose: wow, I wasn't expecting that02:07
arrenlex!sudo | computerhermit02:07
nutterpccomputerhermit: su hasn't got a password set02:08
nutterpcthere's sudo su02:08
arrenlex*shakes fist* jriiiib! >=|02:08
nutterpcbut not su, no password for that02:08
computerhermitthanks02:08
bengoodgercould someone _please_ help me reinstall grub? I really do have to get at my data02:08
nutterpcyou have to set that manually02:08
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tehxedtransgress, I was using the drivers from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19017702:08
gyaresutehxed: /etc/iftab cool. Didn't know that. I wondered about your dev names.02:08
arrenlex!grub | bengoodger02:08
ubotubengoodger: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:08
up365nutterpc,  thanks trying now02:08
jribjamesbrose: k, but realize it doesn't really make sense to have music files executable02:08
lufisSamePaul: okay. open up a terminal and run: "sudo cp /home/ipw/iwp2200-fw-3.0/*.fw /lib/firmware/2.6.20-8-generic"02:08
bengoodgerarrenlex: as I have said perhaps ten times, the guides don't work02:08
SamePaullufis:  one sec02:09
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transgresstehxed: is that your card exactly?  i had a bcm4306 and those drivers wouldn't work for me at all.02:09
geeksaucecan someone help me configure my SMB share to work without prompting for username and password in XP?02:09
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arrenlexbengoodger: Wasn't paying attention. What error do you end up with?02:09
nutterpcup365: it showed my cdrom up straight away and I was able to select the songs I wanted to listen to02:09
tehxedI have the BCM431802:09
transgresstehxed: then those should work02:09
tehxedtransgress, I have the BCM431802:09
jamesbrosejrib, for some reason Rythem box won't open them because of some permissions02:09
jribjamesbrose: does it work now?02:09
lufisSamePaul: and if it gives you an error, change the kernel version to whatever you have. mine is probably different as i'm on feisty02:09
gyaresutehxed: Driver problem. Definitely. The whole access point: invalid thing.02:09
Regnerhow can i change my host name from the cl ?02:09
jamesbrosejrib, no :( :P02:09
tehxedtransgress, that tutorial is specifically for the bcm431802:09
transgressjamesbrose: what are the permissions on the directory?02:09
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nutterpcbut the thing is too up365, in xmms you have to change a setting, the CD Audio plugin, you have to change the mount point to /media/cdrom for it to all work02:09
bengoodgerarrenlex: I get my BIOS' ordinary boot-sector-404 error, unless I choose my windows mbr hard disk in which case I get windows02:09
arrenlexgeeksauce: Here's mine... see if it helps you. http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf02:09
tehxedgyaresu, what do you suggest?02:09
jrib!hostname | Regner02:09
transgresstehxed: yeah i know.02:09
ubotuRegner: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab02:09
jamesbrosetransgress, drwxrwxrwx 63 james  1000 176128 Feb 22 00:30 Music02:10
jribjamesbrose: what is the exact error from rhythmbox?02:10
colbertarrenlex: Thank you! I have mounted my XP partition.. silly question time: I have opened the folder and I see it at /media/BGPC XP, now how do I make a shortcut to it on my desktop or make it readily available there??02:10
SamePaullufis: cp[ied to 2.6.17-11-generic02:10
tehxedtransgress, that tutorial gives links to the bcm4318 drivers02:10
foutrelisDo Dapper's packages work on Edgy?02:10
tehxedthe windows drivers are .exe files..02:10
gyaresutehxed: still thinking.02:10
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arrenlexcolbert: In terminal: ln -s /media/BGPC\ XP ~/Desktop/music02:10
lufisSamePaul: ok, good. is it showing up now?02:10
tehxedtransgress, the windows drivers are .exe files.. =\02:10
nutterpcup365: lemme know how you go once you change the settings I mentioned02:11
kitchetehxed: you just unzip the .exe file02:11
transgresstehxed: you need cabextract so sudo apt-get install cabextract02:11
transgressthe cabextract windowsfile.exe02:11
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bengoodgerarrenlex: the whole setup is rather complicated... sda is my primary hard disk, with windows installed to sda1, grub on sda3 and gnu on sda6. hda is my secondary hard disk, with a reiser partition hda1 being my media storage device; hdd is the drive I inserted to make windows work, with windows' MBR installed on it02:11
quanchi2What is an extended partition?02:11
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jamesbrosejrib, everything is working now :) The program needed to be restarted02:11
jribjamesbrose: oh, ok02:11
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transgresstehxed: BUT!  put it in it's own directory or you will get a shitload of shit in your current pwd02:11
bengoodgerhdd1 is a fat32 drive with some nonsense loaded02:11
arrenlexbengoodger: You're way beyond my limited experience with grub, sorry... good luck fixing it. You could also try asking on the ubuntu forums.02:12
jribjamesbrose: you didn't copy bengoodger word for word right?  He put my name in there by mistake, so you should have updated that02:12
SamePaullufis: no. In syslog it does not go further than 'Intel Corporation'02:12
colbertarrenlex: Wow thanks so much! Is there no way to create a shortcut without terminal ??02:12
transgressbengoodger: can you use a livecd?02:12
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up365nutterpc,  invalid option -- d and without the -d play files opened02:12
bengoodgertransgress: I'm on one now02:12
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arrenlexcolbert: Probably, but I don't know it since I don't use gnome.02:12
quanchi2is there a chat room with less people that can give me assistance?02:12
gyaresutehxed: Sounds like transgress has more info on the broadcom drivers. Can I go to the bakery now? :)02:12
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Toracan some one help me alitle ?02:12
bengoodgertransgress: I did get it to work before, but I forget how02:12
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jamesbrosejrib, yeah I know :P02:12
geeksaucearrenlex, your samba config looks completely different than mine as it was created using SWAT02:12
nutterpcup365: it worked for me man, very odd02:12
lufisSamePaul: have you already installed the driver package? is it different than firmware, i assume?02:12
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quanchi2does Canonical have a phone line that i can call for help?02:12
gyaresuquanchi2: What's your question?02:12
transgressbengoodger: then you need to chroot your hardrive in it, then install grub... if i were you i'd follow the gentoo install guide because it has you do that exact thing02:12
bengoodgerquanchi2: yes, at hugely inflated prices02:12
tehxedgyaresu, you didn't need to stick around man. if you had to go.. you go02:12
up365nutterpc,  Im on Edgy any difference02:13
foutrelisPlease excuse me for asking again. Do Dapper's packages work on Edgy?02:13
arrenlexgeeksauce: SWAT totally saved my ass both times I've used it. Simply couldn't get anything to work without it.02:13
quanchi2Gyaresu, i need to be guided through making a partition02:13
tehxedgyaresu, thanks again for all the help02:13
quanchi2safely02:13
nutterpcup365: so am I02:13
SamePaulNBlufis: yes. Installed driver and ieee8021102:13
gyaresutehxed: I like puzzles. :)02:13
quanchi2i don't want to delete my windows partition02:13
tehxedtransgress, what do you mean put "it" in it's own directory?02:13
lufisSamePaulNB: okay, try rebooting i guess02:13
Toracan some one help me alitle ?02:13
bengoodgertransgress: been there, done that, debugged, received the "completed without error" message and then rebooted to get the BIOS' moan02:13
colbertarrenlex: Okay, thank you!02:13
nutterpcLinux Demon 2.6.20 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 21 07:51:34 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux02:13
quanchi2i just want to make a 20gb partition to install ubuntu on02:13
kitchefoutrelis: not really02:13
quanchi2i'm new to partitioning02:13
quanchi2compeletely02:13
gyaresuquanchi2: OK. Firstly, why do you want to make a partition?02:13
geeksaucearrenlex, is it in the repos?02:13
transgresstehxed: mkdir windowscrap mv && windowscrap.exe windowscrap02:13
SamePaulNBlufis: ok. 2 min02:13
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transgresserr02:13
nutterpcup365: running a custom kernel :)02:13
foutrelisthank you kitche :)02:13
gyaresuquanchi2: secondly preface your comments with our nicks.02:13
arrenlex!info swat | geeksauce02:13
transgresstehxed: put that mv on the otherside of &&02:13
ubotugeeksauce: swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 739 kB, installed size 2052 kB02:13
quanchi2Gyaresu, to have Ubuntu and Windows on my PC.02:13
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gyaresuquanchi2: Do you only have windows at the moment?02:14
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Regneris there a way to get my MD array to shut down properly when /boot is mounted as sdg (usb boot device) and the actual md as / ?02:14
quanchi2yes.  I'm on a live CD now.  A Ubuntu Live CD02:14
up365nutterpc, so your solution let you load CD tracks to XMMS playlist?02:14
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bengoodgertransgress: can you help me personally? it's an utter arse of a setup02:14
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Toracan some one help me alitle ?02:14
transgressbengoodger: i'll find you the step by steps of it, but if i tell it to you i will fsck it up.  i'm really doped up on painkillers at the moment02:15
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tehxedaww man02:15
SpacePuppy!ask02:15
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:15
tehxedwhere is cabextract02:15
Torai need the first login name i lost it :S ome ur sum :S02:15
gyaresuquanchi2: Ok. Then you can (after backing up the important files in XP) just install ubuntu and it should automatically find the XP partition and include it in the boot loader options.02:15
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arrenlex!info cabextract | tehxed02:15
ubotutehxed: cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB02:15
nutterpcup365: the solution I have basically loaded xmms, went straight to the cdrom, looked, saw an audio cd, brought up a window showing me the tracks available, and I just went and added the ones I wanted02:15
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gyaresuquanchi2: Does that make sense?02:15
gbohello all02:15
bengoodgergyaresu: the problem is installing ubuntu without blitzing windows' partition02:15
gyaresu!hello > gbo02:15
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SamePaullufis: restarted. Modprobe?02:15
bengoodgertransgress: thanks02:15
arrenlex!hi | gbo02:15
ubotugbo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:16
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nutterpclove this track02:16
quanchi2gyaresu: it already finds the windows xp partition.  The slider won't let me go lower than 57.2GB of memory.  All I need is 20GB for Ubuntu.02:16
Toracan some one help me ?? msg me plz...02:16
gyaresubengoodger: Yes. I've pointed that out as not a problem if the ubuntu install is used.02:16
arrenlexgyaresu: Did you look carefully at !hello before sending it? =P02:16
nutterpcTora: whats up?02:16
lufisSamePaul: does it show up?02:16
Torai need the first login name i lost it :S ome ur sum :S02:16
gyaresu!hello02:16
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB02:16
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gyaresuHA!02:16
bengoodgergyaresu: "just install ubuntu" does not inform the user of how to set up a partition table02:16
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gyaresuarrenlex: thank you.02:17
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quanchi2gyaresu: ?02:17
transgressbengoodger: found you just what you need that will be far easier than what i suggested02:17
nutterpcTora: you lost your login name? 0_o02:17
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transgressbengoodger: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub02:17
gbothis is off topic but does anyone know if its possible to use google to search for forums and boards02:17
up365nutterpc, when I click Play,  Play Files opens but I cannot get a list from CD02:17
DarthLappyTora: Did you do an OEM install?02:17
SamePaullufis: no02:17
lufisgbo: what do you mean? you can search within sites by typing site:url.com query keyword02:17
ToraOEM THX!!!02:17
unopgbo,  use google search modifiers .. site:url02:17
bengoodgergbo: er, yes, type "forums|fora|bboards|boards <subject>|<other_subject>" into google02:17
DarthLappy:)02:17
lufisSamePaul: :( are you sure it copied correctly?02:17
gyaresuquanchi2: OK. So you can use gparted. If you are already in the LiveCD then 'sudo gparted' and create the partitions you need.02:17
quanchi2OMFG02:18
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gbothank you02:18
nutterpcup365: you need to change the cd audio plugin in xmms to point towards the /media/cdrom mountpoint02:18
quanchi2k02:18
geeksaucearrenlex, ok installed... how do i access it and use it?02:18
bengoodgergbo: for searching within boards, use the site: argument as directed02:18
gyaresu!partitions02:18
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:18
quanchi2this is getting me pissed off02:18
quanchi2are there any guides?02:18
quanchi2no one seems to be listening02:18
unop!language02:18
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:18
quanchi2any guides on how to do this?02:18
DarthLappy!patience > quanchi202:18
StoneNotequanchi2, did you say something?02:18
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Point your browser to localhost:90102:18
gyaresuquanchi2: Really? No-ones listening?02:18
pilgrimHi all. I can't get the help from any application in gnome. When I click Help>Contents on the gnome terminal for example, Yelp opens with the "Ubuntu Help Centre" and the welcome message but then the actual help stuff opens in firefox (XML format, so it's not readable)....What do I do? Please someone guide me somewhere.02:18
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computerhermitthank you02:19
quanchi2No, they aren't.  If they were they'd know that I'm trying to use GParted.  I only said it 10 times.02:19
admin_Can I compile a 64 bit firefox, on my 32 bit ubuntu? (I do have a 64 bit processor), and will FF actually run?02:19
gyaresuquanchi2: Crazy, because I thought I was spending my day off helping you to partition your drive... I must be mistaken.02:19
quanchi2I don't mean to be snappy but put yourself in my shoes.02:19
tehxedman02:19
tehxedexe files are a pain in ubuntu02:19
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admin_waine it up tehxed02:19
tonyyarussoquanchi2: are you using the most recent gparted?02:19
admin_* wine02:19
lufisSamePaul: type ls /lib/firmware/2.6.17-11-generic | grep <put filename of firmware file here>02:19
SamePaullufis: Maybe to get other distro? Or update kernel? (though I don't know how, but...)02:19
SamePaullufis: sec02:20
quanchi2tony: how should I know?02:20
kitchetehxed: if it's drivers unzip the .exe file02:20
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nutterpcchange that mount point for the cd audio plugin as mentioned up365 and the string I gave u will work02:20
StoneNotegyaresu, after all you were paid you treat a customer like this. for shame02:20
bengoodgerquanchi2: you're not listening to us. there are no need for guides, since it's really not difficult. you simply arrive at the partitioner, select "manual partitioning", use it to shrink your windows partition (use your brain to do this), apply, and then go back and select "use largest contiguous free space" or similar as I said ages ago.02:20
geeksaucearrenlex, nothing there02:20
tehxedkitche, it's not working =(02:20
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tehxedkitche, it's an exe02:20
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up365nutterpc, OK, the cd audio plugin in xmms is located where ?02:20
quanchi2ok ben02:20
tonyyarussoquanchi2: The most recent (ie, most bugfixes) will be the GParted LiveCD (available from GParted web site).  I've often found bugs in the ones on Ubuntu live CDs...02:20
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kitchetehxed: your point being exe files are just like zip files02:20
gyaresuStoneNote: Hey. Sorry, missing the context. Sarcasm?02:21
arrenlexgeeksauce: Odd. Are you sure you can't just work with mine? Seems simple enough to understand to me...02:21
DarthLappykitche: Well, not all of them.02:21
SamePaullufis: yes, I have there all 3 files of fw02:21
bengoodgerquanchi2: it's very intuitive and not at all hard, and only by being extremely stupid (i.e. ignoring the comfirmation option to delete your windows partition) will you screw it up02:21
lufisSamePaul: hmm, i have no idea then :(02:21
tehxedhow do i use cabextract02:21
nutterpcup365: in Input Plugins, highlight xmms (which means load it), then press ctrl + p, and the first plugin you will in the list that comes up is the cd one02:21
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tonyyarussotehxed: probably just 'cabextract somefile', but you can check 'man cabextract' to be sure.02:21
nutterpcdouble click it, change the mount point02:21
SamePaullufis: uf... alright. Thanks for trying.02:22
nutterpcpress the check drive button, and then ok, and ok02:22
lufisSamePaul: good luck... :(02:22
posingaspopulari need helping installing a java plugin, it's a .bin and keeps giving me an error. help?02:22
quanchi2Ben: dude, how come this doesn't come with a manual, regardless of how easy it may seem to everyone else?02:22
geeksaucearrenlex, is there a man file for SWAT?02:22
nutterpcshould be good after that02:22
arrenlexgeeksauce: When I run localhost:901, firefox prompts me for my password and then displays the conf page. So I dunno.02:22
kitcheDarthLappy: most setup exe are02:22
SamePaullufis: Can I update kernel to 2.6.20? Or it is bad idea?02:22
tonyyarusso!java | posingaspopular02:22
arrenlexgeeksauce: man swat02:22
ubotuposingaspopular: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre02:22
bengoodgertransgress: I don't actually want to use the ubuntu installer, since that will likely bugger my debian in an interesting way02:22
StoneNotequanchi2, this what you're looking for? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome  I can't vouch for this02:22
up365nutterpc, I see02:22
posingaspopulartonyyarusso: thanks02:22
lufisSamePaul: i guess so, but unless you know for sure it has a feature required i wouldn't bother02:22
gyaresuquanchi2: A manual? You mean like Windows?02:22
colbertarrenlex: Little problem here, when I followed that command to create the shortcut "ln -s /media/BGPC\ XP ~/Desktop/music" I failed to put the \ between BGPC and XP for the space, and it created bad "BGPC" and "XP links on the desktop, I deleted BGPC but I can't seem to get rid of XP ?02:23
tehxedsuccess!!!02:23
nutterpcSamePaul: updating the kernel to 2.6.20 (basically roll ur own) is a bit harder than most people should ideally attempt02:23
gyaresutehxed: Wireless a-go-go?02:23
nutterpcespecially when small features decide to stop working, lol02:23
SamePaullufis: I just don't know what to do. WinXP had no problem with it :(02:23
arrenlexcolbert: You've come to the right place! This channel is all about helping you get rid of XP :D02:23
colbertlol02:23
lufisSamePaul: yeah, some hardware vendors make it pretty difficult for linux to use it. blame them02:23
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bengoodgerquanchi2: using one's brain is quite sufficient for using linux. unlike windows, it is neither necessary nor possible to manage by repeating the same series of mouseclicks over and over having memorised them painstakingly02:24
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arrenlexcolbert: For future reference, Linux doesn't like spaces in filenames. I highly advise you not to use them for files you will be accessing in the command line, because it's a pain to escape them with \ every time.02:24
tehxedgyaresu, negatory02:24
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up365nutterpc,  uh oh xmms is not listed in Input plugins02:24
colbertarrenlex: Okay02:24
lufisSamePaul: they purposely withhold hardware specs most of the time. it's a sad thing02:24
gyaresutehxed: poop02:24
nutterpc0_o02:24
arrenlexcolbert: What happens if you just press delete over XP?02:24
tehxedgyaresu, i just figured out how to get the windows drivers extracted using cabextract02:24
tehxedtransgress, i got them extracted.. now what?02:24
nutterpcit should be in there man02:24
lufisSamePaul: and provide crappy closed-source drivers02:24
colbertarrenlex: Nothing02:24
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mjr(Linux likes spaces in filenames just fine, it's just a bit cumbersome to use those in shell)02:25
quanchi2k02:25
gyaresutehxed: stage 47. moving onto stage 48...02:25
colbertarrenlex: The icon has a locked emblem on it02:25
SamePaullufis: :) I'll say them. I'm working in the wireless department of Intel ))02:25
quanchi2ben: there is now 19GB of unallocated space.02:25
arrenlexcolbert: Okay, open up the terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop". Then type "rm XP".02:25
tehxedgyaresu, no kidding.. i'm in pain02:25
bengoodgerquanchi2: excellent02:25
geeksaucearrenlex, hmm i don't see why that isn't working.  if i point ff to localhost it shows a directory listing that just has a folder called "samba-images"02:25
transgresstehxed: sudo ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf02:25
bengoodgerquanchi2: make yourself a new 1GB partition, formatted as swap02:25
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nutterpcSamePaul: that must be fun02:25
transgressbengoodger: why are you asking debian help in #ubuntu?02:25
quanchi2ben: i went back and clicked "use largest contiguous free space"02:25
arrenlexgeeksauce: o_O02:25
dogmeatwhich wma -> mp3 converter can i use?02:25
bengoodgerthen use the rest of the space for one formatted as ext302:25
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colbertarrenlex: You strike again :) Thank you :)02:25
arrenlexgeeksauce: That's localhost:901, not just localhost, right?02:25
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SamePaulnutterpc: Actually not at all :)02:26
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quanchi2ben: so it will only use that 19GB of space right?02:26
arrenlexcolbert: Is it actually gone?02:26
IndyGunFreakdogmeat, does Linux have a WMA-MP3 converter?02:26
transgressbengoodger: try this one then http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/restore-debian-linux-grub-boot-loader.html02:26
bengoodgertransgress: what is ubuntu if not a slightly more patronising version of debian?02:26
IndyGunFreaki figure yo'ud have to convert them on a windows box02:26
nutterpcSamePaul: why do you say that man :P02:26
colbertarrenlex: Yes02:26
geeksaucenah that's just localhost.  adding :901 doesn't work02:26
MarupaHey, uh...looking to try out feisty...How would I go about upgrading from Edgy?02:26
arrenlexIndyGunFreak: mplayer -ao pcm <file.wma> && lame <file.wav> :)02:26
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tehxedmaaan02:26
transgressbengoodger: debian has it's own way of doing things and ubuntu has it's way ... and debian also has it's own channel.  but that link should set you up.02:26
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bengoodgerMarupa: don't bother until it's released02:26
gyaresu!upgrade02:26
nutterpcarrenlex: good ol mplayer02:26
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:27
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arrenlexgeeksauce: The :901 part is kind of important. If it doesn't work, that's the problem.02:27
IndyGunFreakarrenlex, does that line change it to a .wav file?.. how to convert to an mp3?02:27
gyaresu!upgrade > Marupa02:27
dynamicreflux!feisty02:27
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+102:27
quanchi2ben: it will only install in that 19GB, right?02:27
skelcan anyone clarify something for me? I read on slashdot that feisty wouldn't have the 3d accelerated drivers by default for nvidia / ati for beryl / AIGLX, does that mean that restricted-modules won't include the nvidia drivers anymore? or just that it won't be default?02:27
arrenlexIndyGunFreak: By using lame.02:27
bengoodgertransgress: I'm not aware that ubuntu has forked gnu grub...02:27
SamePaulnutterpc: It's frustrating to fail on this...02:27
bengoodgerquanchi2: yep02:27
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quanchi2ok02:27
MarupaI don't want to wait until april  X302:27
nutterpcSamePaul: whats not happening?02:27
quanchi2ben: it will not erase my windows stuff right?02:27
gyaresuskel: by default.02:27
mjrskel, it won't be default, as has been for ages already02:27
IndyGunFreakarrenlex, oh i see now, ok02:27
bengoodgerskel: it won't be the default, thankfully02:27
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gyaresuquanchi2: Backup,backup,backup.02:27
bengoodgerquanchi2: not unless you tell it to02:27
mjrskel, (incidentally, "accelerated" != "proprietary"; many Radeons are accelerated with the free drivers already)02:28
bengoodgerquanchi2: read above my last message02:28
skelgyaresu / mjr / gyaresu: ok thanks, I was worried I wouldn't have access to them at all02:28
tehxedtransgress, sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf02:28
skelmjr: right, bad wording on my part.02:28
geeksaucearrenlex, yes i realize that.  i thought maybe the fact that it lists a samba-images directory when i point it localhost might have helped as far as troubleshooting02:28
transgressbengoodger: no it hasn't... but you said yourself that installing it using ubuntu might make interesting things happen.  hence debian doing things it's way... thus you shouldn't be asking for help in a place ill equiped to help you.  ubuntu != debian ... especially now02:28
tehxedtransgress, bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it02:28
quanchi2i have stuff i want to keep on burned CDs02:28
transgresstehxed: remove it and reinstall it02:28
gyaresuskel: It's Linux. You can always jam stuff in that's not meant to be there ;)02:28
quanchi2but i really don't want to have to refer to those02:28
mqueiroshello... I'v installed some packages on dapper but I don't remember all... does dapper keeps track of the lateste installed packages ? where ? thanks!02:28
quanchi2my parents use this computer02:28
tbc2hi@all ...02:28
nutterpcSamePaul: depending on what ur problem is, I might be able to help02:28
quanchi2i really want to be careful02:28
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tehxedtransgress, instead of -i, use -e?02:29
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skelgyaresu: I know, I used to compile the nvidia drivers all the time against my custom kernel, it just because a matter of maintenance and breaking the updates etc02:29
tehxedtransgress, sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf   <--?02:29
transgresstehxed: use the -e bcmwl5 and then ndiswrapper bcmwl5.inf02:29
transgresstehxed: no .inf is required for the -e02:29
skelgyaresu: so if at all possible, I like to stick with ubuntu kernels and packages :)02:29
bengoodgertransgress: debian doesn't do anything its way, that's the point. and canonical haven't forked gnu grub, so I should be able to use a livecd to fix a distro-independent application02:29
tehxedtransgress, so what ...what am I typing in?02:29
gyaresuskel: Yeah I know. Just being facetious.02:29
bengoodgertransgress: do you install a different copy of grub if you want to run windows?02:30
skelgyaresu: =] 02:30
transgresstehxed: gnome-terminal if you are using gnome02:30
arrenlexgeeksauce: There we go. Open /etc/inetd.conf in a text editor as root.02:30
quanchi2i hope this works02:30
arrenlexgeeksauce: Find the line that says #swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat02:30
tehxedtransgress, another terminal popped up =\02:30
transgressbengoodger: i install a different package that was compiled differently and packaged differently if i install different packages.02:30
arrenlexgeeksauce: And uncomment it. Or if it doesn't exist, add it.02:30
nutterpcbrb all, call of nature02:30
transgressbengoodger: do you use ubuntu repo's on your debian install?02:30
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tbc2can anybody tell me, why deleting /var/logs/mail.log is leading to permanently absence of taht file even after sending again? i would have thought that it is recreated automatically when next sending process is taking place. whta do i have to do to regain a mail.log (just creating an empty file with the right grants isn't the solution).02:31
bengoodgertransgress: obviously not, but I don't use ubuntu nor debian to boot my system... I use GNU GRUB02:31
gyaresutransgress: bengoodger Now now lads. Silly argument. Let's play nicely together eh?02:31
quanchi2ben: does ubuntu run faster off of the livecd?02:31
transgressbengoodger: but you use GRUB compiled and packaged by DEBIAN not grub compiled and packaged by UBUNTU02:31
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bengoodgerquanchi2: it runs much, much faster off the hard disk02:32
mjrquanchi2, CD drives are slow (especially seeking), so no, much slower02:32
quanchi2off of the harddisk?02:32
quanchi2or off of the CD?02:32
quanchi2oh02:32
quanchi2nvm02:32
quanchi2lol02:32
bengoodgerquanchi2: it runs much, much faster off the hard disk02:32
quanchi2my mistake02:32
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tehxedtransgress, so how do i remove this?02:32
quanchi2ben: are you a unix programmer?02:32
tehxedtransgress, sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf   <--that?02:32
bengoodgertransgress: so, if you were to install debian and ubuntu dual-boot you wouldn't dare to use the copy of GRUB that came with either one? what would you use instead? mandrake 6.2's LILO02:32
bengoodger?02:32
transgressno... just "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5"02:32
quanchi2i'm just wondering02:33
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bengoodgerquanchi2: I hope to be at some point... I'm learning python/gtk atm02:33
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quanchi2oh02:33
StoneNotetbc2, what user:group do you have for /var/log/mail.log ?02:33
quanchi2i'm a windows programmer02:33
quanchi2used to a windows environment only02:33
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bengoodgerquanchi2: you have my pity02:33
tbc2StoneNote: root02:33
quanchi2i have to get used to this stuff02:33
quanchi2ha02:33
tehxedI'm alone again =(02:33
StoneNotetbc2, root:root?02:33
quanchi2well unix seems way easier to program on02:33
tbc2StoneNote: same as for mail.info ;)02:33
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quanchi2i mean when it comes to things like quick projects02:33
StoneNotetbc2, mine is set to root:adm02:34
quanchi2thanks for the help, all of you.02:34
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blackes1anyone from the uk with a dvb-t card ?02:34
bengoodgerquanchi2: however, being a programmer makes people assume that you're capable of basic partitioning tasks... evidently windows is more patronising nowadays02:34
quanchi2I hope this stuff works.02:34
bengoodgerquanchi2: it shoul02:34
bengoodgerd02:34
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quanchi2ben: too bad that isn't the truth02:34
bengoodgerquanchi2: indeed02:34
StoneNotetbc2, sudo chown root:adm /var/log/mail.log02:34
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tbc2StoneNote: yep, saw that on a webpage previously that it was chmod'ed for group adm02:34
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tbc2but all other mail.* logs are root:root02:34
StoneNoteok02:34
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quanchi2ben: you can know how to code your own version of DOOM3, but still not know how to make a drive partition :P02:35
quanchi2lol02:35
Yggdrasilcan somone help me get with this ? controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX02:35
bengoodgerquanchi2: DOOM3 runs on linux, you know :P02:35
quanchi2lol02:35
tehxedtransgress,  you there?02:35
bengoodgeryay for opengl02:35
quanchi2well i'm sure you get what i mean.02:35
transgresstehxed: umm sort of02:35
bengoodgeryeah02:35
quanchi2:P02:35
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quanchi2DirectX ftw02:35
blackes1partition with dapper then install edgy ;)02:35
StoneNotetbc2, not on my system in /var/log02:35
scvwho runs doom now?02:35
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quanchi2i've never even played DOOM02:36
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tehxedtransgress, bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it02:36
scvi rather to play nexuiz02:36
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gyaresuYggdrasil: Not getting an IP address?02:36
bengoodgerquanchi2: DOOM was OK... gameplay was good, but the engine was tripe. of course, I only predate it by three years so I'm used to better graphics02:36
transgressbengoodger: why is it you didn't want to use those instructions i gave you then?02:36
tehxedgyaresu, you ..have a any ideas?02:37
transgresstehxed: i just told you what to do.  twice.  \02:37
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gyaresutehxed: Sorry. About what? (Wireless still?)02:37
bengoodgertransgress: because I don't want ubuntu's installer to run. I'm quite happy to reinstall grub from ubuntu02:37
tehxedgyaresu, yes02:37
tehxedtransgress, err..02:37
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geeksaucearrenlex, sorry i stepped away for a few mins... lemme catch up :)02:37
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tehxedtransgress, <transgress> tehxed: no .inf is required for the -e02:37
tehxedtransgress, that?02:37
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quanchi2k02:38
quanchi2installation complete02:38
quanchi2brb02:38
tbc2StoneNote: tried it, no way ... manually created mail.log stays at 0 bytes02:38
transgressbengoodger: i'm well aware grub will work from either... however, you came in here asking for info which i gave you assuming you had an ubuntu setup... which you don't... which caused the instructions to be invalid, which is why you shouldn't go to a channel that doesn't support your system... and then i give you other instructions... and you continue to bitch.02:38
quanchi2let me see if i still have windows02:38
blackes1bengoodger why is that name familiar ?02:38
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tehxedtransgress, but what do i do after the removing (the -e) thing02:38
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transgresstehxed: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf02:38
bengoodgerI share a name with the lead developer of Mozilla Firefox. it's perpetually embarrassing02:38
transgresstehxed: ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m && modprobe ndiswrapper02:39
Yggdrasilgyaresu its not showing up when i do ifconfig02:39
bengoodgertransgress: thank you so much for your help02:39
blackes1firefox ben goodger ?02:39
gyaresuYggdrasil: 'dmesg |grep eth'02:39
StoneNotetbc2, cron sends me mail about every half hour. how often is it writing to you?02:39
gyaresuYggdrasil: 'lspci'02:40
foormeaahey, do you know if there's still a problem with scim in feisty when not using a CJK session?02:40
blackes1ah i see02:40
gyaresuYggdrasil: post the output to pastebin please.02:40
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bengoodgerblackes1: no, I'm the other ben goodger02:40
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bengoodgerit's annoying.02:40
irespritehey, all.02:40
tbc2StoneNote: how does that rely to my prob? i could not follow ;)02:40
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blackes1coul;d be worse could be called richard stallman02:40
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bengoodgerblackes1: good god, no..02:41
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tehxedtransgress,  drivername      invalid driver02:41
geeksaucearrenlex, that line already exists and isn't commented out02:41
irespriteGot a quick question regarding hostname resolution...02:41
bengoodgerI try to distance myself from insane persons02:41
transgresstehxed: well... ndiswrapper -i therightdrivername.inf02:41
tehxedi thought i did02:41
blackes1anyone here got a dvb-t card in the uk ??02:41
StoneNotetbc2, it's a log file. things get written to the log file when there is activity. if I created a file with nothing in it, I'd expect there to be nothing in it until the next event wrote something to it. stop me if I'm going to fast here02:41
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irespriteI've got a file server that, for some reason, can't seem to resolve any hostnames. I'm behind a router, and it's only recently that this has occurred.02:41
tbc2StoneNote: i haven' cron'ed a script mailx-ing me02:41
transgresstehxed: or is that from the modprobe?02:42
Yggdrasilgyaresu ok will do02:42
tehxedtransgress, from the modprobe02:42
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skeliresprite: did you check the usual? /etc/hosts  /etc/resolv.conf  ?02:42
bengoodgerblackes1: I hope to buy one one day... there's a specific card you should buy, in order to not want to kill yourself02:42
arrenlexgeeksauce: I dunno then. Sorry.02:42
tbc2StoneNote: i will manually shell the mailx to produce log activity02:42
bengoodgerI forget which one02:42
arrenlexgeeksauce: Maybe this will help you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58434&highlight=swat02:42
irespriteWell, there's not much in those-- this is a vanilla installation, and I haven't done anything with it.02:42
arrenlexgeeksauce: Use mine if you can.02:42
StoneNotetbc2, now that's a good idea02:42
tbc2StoneNote: just using 'mailx -s ...'02:42
skeliresprite: validate that the dns servers specified are reachable and providing responses?02:42
transgresstehxed: i've heard that reinstalling ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 helps in some cases... but iuno.02:42
tehxedtransgress, it's worth a shot.02:43
blackes1well ive got a kworld dvb-t 210 once i modded the v4l driver source its ok :)02:43
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tbc2but mail.log still at 0 bytes ... mail.info growing02:43
bengoodgerblackes1: goood02:43
tehxedtransgress, "udo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils" ?02:43
skeliresprite: does it only happen with certain hosts? or all resolution?02:43
geeksaucearrenlex, can you send me that link again?  it's not that i CAN'T use yours, it just bugs me when things don't work like they're supposed to :P02:43
StoneNoteinteresting02:43
transgresstehxed: no.02:43
saxaphoneWhere's a good place to learn about setting up dansguardian?02:43
tbc2if i rename mail.info to mail.info.b ... the mailx will find it *strangebehaviour*02:43
arrenlexhttp://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf02:43
tehxedtransgress, err..that's suppose to say "sudo"02:44
transgresstehxed: sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils && sudo aptitude reinstall ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.802:44
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blackes1only problem is i need 2 more mux's kaffeine will tune the mux once it knows one channel02:44
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irespriteskel: yep, I can ping 'em both. (I got them off my router-- I didn't think they needed to be manually configured on the box.)02:44
transgresstehxed: then blacklist the bcm43xx driver if you haven't already, reboot, and try to modprobe ndiswrapper then02:44
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tehxedreboot == actually restart or logout/login?02:45
Jeeves_Mosshas anyone had issues with WiFi cards under the latest release?02:45
transgresstehxed: actually reboot02:45
tehxedtransgress, ah, gotya02:45
baixhey all, if i want to look at and modify the source code of programs, where would i start?02:45
StoneNotetbc2, I looked again. postfix is the only thing logging to my mail.log02:45
skeliresprite: can you do nslookups?02:45
irespriteskel: Maybe this is relevant. This box uses static ip, whereas I'm using DHCP for most other machines.02:45
irespriteskel: nope.02:45
Jeeves_Mossigor:  are you in here?02:45
gyaresubaix: What are you trying to achieve?02:45
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irespriteskel: the other machine using static ip resolves hostnames fine, though.02:45
tbc2StoneNote: oh ... mail.log is a postfix logfile were mail.info is related to mailx?02:46
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n2diyJeeves_Moss: how'd the GPS work out?02:46
skeliresprite: your router gets your dns servers from your provider, if the dns servers change and that fileserver isnt using dhcp it won't pickup the changes.. have the dnsservers changed ?02:46
Jeeves_Mossanyone?  WiFi issues, new release?02:46
gyaresuJeeves_Moss: You're question is too vague.02:46
StoneNotetbc2, I'm seeing postfix in .info too02:46
baixgyaresu, i just want to be able to look at some source code from some real programs (xchat for example) and maybe try to modify and recompile them02:47
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StoneNotetbc2, could be the way I'm set up02:47
Jeeves_Mossn2diy:  it works great.  I had to reinstall Ubuntu after a bunch of unrecoverable errors, now my WiFi won't work.02:47
irespriteskel: Hard to tell-- I haven't checked them in a while. However, wouldn't the change in DNS also affect the other machine using static IP? (It's also an Ubuntu machine.)02:47
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skeliresprite: yes it would, in theory02:47
unityhi, was wondering what version of nfs-kernel-dameon/server (whatever it's called) ships with ubuntu 6.10?02:47
n2diyJeeves_Moss: roger that, not playing with wifi here, yet.02:47
tbc2StoneNote: i did a '/etc/init.d/postfix restart' and ...02:47
irespriteskel: If this is somehow the case, how would I update the box to use the new DNS servers?02:47
tbc2-rw-r--r-- 1 root adm      0 2007-02-24 02:36 mail.log02:47
tbc2^ still 0 bytes02:47
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Phlosteniresprite: is your /etc/resolv.conf empty?02:48
gyaresubaix: So you want to learn how to programme? Start with one of the easier languages. Ruby/Python...02:48
Jeeves_Mossn2diy:  well, I'm getting annoyed.  it worked flawlessly in the previous release, niw the update is screwing up.  and I NEED it to work on his one.02:48
tehxedwtf?!02:48
tehxedit's not letting me edit blacklist02:48
sha1sumhey guys... wondering if altering your installation environment changes your install at all (ie, does adding/removing packages from the install livecd session alter the packages on your system?).02:48
irespritephlosten: yes.02:48
skeliresprite: well other than manually getting the dns servers that the router pulls, it depends on your setup02:48
Phlosteniresprite: well make it not empty02:48
skeldoh02:48
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skeliresprite: ^^ what Phlosten said :)02:48
n2diyJeeves_Moss: roger that too, good luck.02:49
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gyaresubaix: http://tryruby.hobix.com/02:49
irespritephlosten: ah. Okay. I wasn't aware that was an issue-- the machine has worked for months without it being a problem.02:49
skeliresprite: you could always setup a cron job to rsync one of your dhcp boxes to grab the /etc/resolv.conf02:49
StoneNotetbc2, I have to admit I'm out of ideas02:49
Jeeves_Mossn2diy:  thanks.  Oh, BTW, can you hop over to #jeeves?  I've got some information on that server.02:49
irespritephlosten: the file says do not edit by hand! your changes will be overwritten!02:49
Phlosteniresprite: no entry in resolv.conf means no dns resolution02:49
irespriteexcept with more caps. :)02:49
n2diyJeeves_Moss: sure02:49
saxaphoneWhere's a good place to learn about setting up dansguardian?02:49
Phlosteniresprite: what have you got installed on that box in the way of server apps?02:50
irespriteskel: a cron job, eh?02:50
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baixgyaresu, i'm already familiar with python and i'm decent with C++, it would be nice to try to apply some of what i've learned to modify programs i already use. i guess my main question is does apt-get grab the source code and where does it put it?02:50
sha1sumis anybody knowing this? :D02:50
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mqueirosDoes anyone knows Why each 5 sec. I get the "^[[C" inserted in my dapper drake ? I can see it apearing in the gnome terminal...02:50
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irespritephlosten: how do you mean? This is basically a samba/apache box.02:50
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irespritenothing too special.02:50
saxaphone!dansguardian02:50
ubotudansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB02:50
tbc2StoneNote: me too ;)02:50
Phlosteniresprite: i am curious as to what is playing with your resolv.conf :)02:51
tbc2thats the reason for being here so late02:51
gyaresubaix: You can just download the source code to any program from their site and extract it to a directory and then mess around and compile it in that directory. Start with something that has no dependancies.02:51
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tbc2its actually 2:51 ... AM!02:51
sha1sumokay maybe one more time in a more simple way: does adding or removing packages on the livecd install session change what will be installed on your HD?02:51
gyaresuIf you can code a bit then you should know this (no offence meant).02:51
irespritephlosten: fair enough. I haven't done anything special to it of late. What kind of apps are you thinking of?02:51
Phlosteniresprite: my resolv.conf just has two lines. 1st line is ip of dns server 1 and 2nd line is ip of dns server 202:51
ConstyXIVis there a panel app that checks your mailbox?02:51
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kitcheConstyXIV: I know kde has one for kmail not sure about gnome02:52
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irespritephlosten: yep. that's what my healthy static ip box has.02:52
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Phlosteniresprite: is it a ubuntu box?02:52
baixgyaresu, ok thanks, was just curious if apt-get already grabbed them02:52
Jeeves_Mossanyone?  help with this WiFi issue?02:52
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irespriteactually, three lines.02:52
ConstyXIVi know kde has one.  this is gnome02:52
irespritethe first one being "search foo.bar.baz.net."02:52
iresprite(well, not foo.bar.baz... but you know what I mean.)02:53
Phlosteniresprite: yeah, thats fine02:53
tehxedtransgress, before i go.. "ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m && modprobe ndiswrapper" is to modprobe, right?02:53
irespritephlosten: yes. :) 6.06.02:53
Phlosteniresprite: just copy that02:53
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gyaresuJeeves_Moss: What is the issue?02:53
irespritephlosten: fair enough. I'm wondering what's overwriting it, then. Or, rather,what's not starting that *should* be overwriting it.02:54
transgresstehxed: no.  just modprobe ndiswrapper at this point02:54
transgresstehxed: that other stuff was some extra one time use stuff02:54
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Plumy#ubuntu-fr02:54
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tehxedtransgress, thank you02:54
Jeeves_Mossgyaresu:  my Athoes card worked fine in the last release of Ubuntu, but when I reinstalled the newest one, it won't connect to anything.02:54
tehxedtransgress, be back in 2 to 502:54
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Phlosteniresprite: wouldnt worry too much, if editing it by hand makes it work all is good. if you loose dns in a few days or whatever then I would have a further looksee02:55
irespritephlosten, skel-- thanks so much! Just adding the lines fixed it.02:55
gyaresuJeeves_Moss: You know about the iwconfig command?02:55
irespritePhlosten: Noted.02:55
gyaresuJeeves_Moss: And iwlist?02:55
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Phlosteniresprite: examalent02:55
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ConstyXIVare there any nice gtk+ go programs?02:55
skeliresprite: =]  glad to provide input =] 02:55
gyaresuJeeves_Moss: are you there?02:56
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PhlostenConstyXIV: whats a 'go' program?02:56
Jeeves_Mossgyaresu:  yes I do, the card is up, but it dosen't display any active networks in the drop down menu, and when I manualy type in the SSID, it won't connect.  there is no encryption on the connection.02:56
irespritethe game?02:56
ConstyXIVPhlosten: as in, the board game02:56
ConstyXIViresprite: yes02:56
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gyaresuJeeves_Moss: OK. Could you open a terminal and type (depending on the device name) 'iwlist wlan0 scan'02:57
PhlostenConstyXIV: ah ok, not much of a board game person02:57
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heathenello02:57
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gyaresuJeeves_Moss: If there's no networks then could you pastebin the output of 'iwconfig'02:58
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gyaresu!hi > heathen02:58
ubuntuhey02:58
irespriteconstyxiv: yeah, sorry. I've played a couple of times, but don't know much about finding an app on linux.02:58
ubuntuhow can i upgrade nvidia driver02:58
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irespriteconstyxiv: freshmeat.net may be of some help to you there.02:58
Jeeves_Mossgyaresu:  will iwlist ath0 scan give me a list of the networks?  (I'm in my M$ box right now)02:58
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ubuntuand i have installed WIndows Xp,UBuntu and KNoppix but KNoppix don't want to boot02:58
kitche!nvidia9 | ubuntu02:58
ubotuubuntu: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable02:58
geeksaucearrenlex, i'm behind a firewall... i shouldn't have to forward port 901 because this is all internal, right?02:59
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gyaresuJeeves_Moss: Yep. A list of the ones it sees. You've got 'broadcast essid' set to on in the access point I hope.02:59
tehxedtransgress, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" right?02:59
Jeeves_Mossgyaresu:  yes, it does.  I'm going to try switching OSes and give it a try.02:59
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gyaresuJeeves_Moss: K. I might go to the shop for pies though.03:00
gyaresugeeksauce: that's right ^^03:00
ubuntukitche ???03:00
unityhi, was wondering what version of nfs-kernel-dameon (whatever it's called) ships with ubuntu 6.10? v3 or v4?03:00
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ubuntukitche and from web site where i an download nvidia update03:01
tehxedtransgress, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" right?03:01
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Jeeves_Mossgyaresu:  thanks again, I'm going to give it a try, if not, I'll wait till I get home to plug into the CAT 503:01
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gyaresuOh. That's gonna end badly.03:02
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kitcheubuntu: that is a apt repo03:02
tehxedtransgress, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument03:02
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geeksaucearrenlex, so i should have a file in /etc/xinetd.d/swat called "swat", right?03:03
ubuntukitche ??? what that is mean03:03
Talamangdmsetup03:03
Talaman(gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:03:03
gyaresukitche: ubuntu Just make sure you need the latest version. I didn't see any explanation why you want to upgrade.03:03
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ubuntugyaersu i have installed nvidia drivers but they are not the latest03:03
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gyaresuubuntu: Do they work?03:04
ubuntugyaresu in nvidia.com the version they are 1.903:04
gyaresuubuntu: Do they work?03:04
ubuntugyaresu it work but not good03:04
gyaresuubuntu: Not good?03:04
ubuntugyaresu i see sometime lines03:04
gyaresuubuntu: Ah.03:04
ubuntugyaresu ????03:04
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no-sweatubuntu03:05
no-sweathi03:05
ubuntuno-sweat:  hi03:05
kitche!hi03:05
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:05
gyaresuubuntu: kitche was pointing you to a repo that has latest Nvidia package. You need to put that line in your /etc/apt/sources.list03:05
tieTYT2i notice that ubuntu displays all usernames when you lock the screen and choose switch user.  Isn't that a security risk?03:05
heathenhello *buntu-ians03:05
tehxedtransgress, ...!?03:05
ubuntugyaresu and how can i do it.03:05
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gyaresu!repos > ubuntu03:05
gyaresutieTYT2: Not unless they know your password.03:06
ubuntuok03:06
StoneNotetieTYT2, physical access to the hardware is the largest security risk of all.  that's why it's always a good idea to be careful who you hire. but in a word, yes. it is a security risk03:06
kitchetieTYT2: having physical access is a security risk so them seeing those names are not a big deal03:06
tieTYT2ok so they can only see that screen if they physically access it?  They can't see it with VNC?03:07
Talaman(gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:03:07
gyaresu"physical access": There. That makes it a hat-trick.03:07
Talamanand when i reboot i get the command prompt03:07
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no-sweatubuntu live rocks03:07
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HSBCTaco Bell Rates with Ubuntu03:08
no-sweatamirite?03:08
HSBCack03:08
ConstyXIVi think nearly every system shows the logged in user when it's locked03:08
gyaresuTalaman: Did you just update your system. Or is it a fresh install. We need more information about what has transpired.03:08
heathenmmm taco bell03:08
Talamannon of the above03:08
HSBCheathen:  http://www.1010wins.com/pages/263656.php?contentType=4&contentId=34644403:08
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HSBCyou will not want to eat taco bell anymore :P03:08
Talamanset something and need to set it back03:08
ConstyXIVgnome, kde, windows, (mabye mac, dont know)03:08
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javiolohi03:08
Talamandon't remember what it was03:08
HSBCecoli, rats, ill pass, just give me my ubuntu03:08
jessie^^Is there a way I can stop network-manager-gnome from rewriting my /etc/resolv.conf?03:08
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Talamanwhen i do gdmsetup i get this03:08
Talaman(gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:03:08
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Assidheya03:09
MistaEDcould someone help me get wine to work with com or /dev/ttyS0 ? i'm guessing you symlink in dosdevices COM1 to point to /dev/ttyS0 is this correct?03:09
gyaresuTalaman: Please give more information if you can.03:09
Talamancan't03:09
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Talamanthat's all info i have03:09
transgresstehxed: sorry i was away.  i don't know man.  you can try building ndiswrapper manually03:09
Assidi loaded up kubuntu-desktop, and i am currently in it, but every window looks too much like a gtk widget03:09
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gyaresuTalaman: Yes because you are just getting a command prompt right?03:09
sreehey, have ubuntu edgy + broadcom 4306 wireless card.03:09
Talamanyep03:09
sreenetwork keeps diconnecting03:09
aSt3raLsree: what network?03:09
sreecould someone help03:09
Talamanbut i can activate gdm03:09
tehxedtransgress, that's alright03:09
ConstyXIVsree: bcm43xx or ndiswrapper03:10
sreewireless03:10
Assideverything is like a bulky bold font and the buttons are all ugly, is there any way to reset to pure kde ?03:10
ConstyXIV?03:10
tehxedtransgress, i'll.. just go back to XP eventually =\03:10
kitchesree: is this after your system goes into sleep mode?03:10
a5benwillisI have a 'small test application' that came with an NSS module that Im testing. I cant figure out how to 'execute' it03:10
a5benwillis Ive tried sh, perl, python......03:10
a5benwillis the instructions say "Run the test program with the -U option"03:10
Talamanjust can't do anything with gdmsetup03:10
sreebcm43xx03:10
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gyaresuTalaman: Could you please post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?03:10
tehxedtransgress, I'm going to try and insdtall Beryl now..03:10
tieTYT2thx03:10
aSt3raLTalaman: what are you trying to do?03:10
sreeno. it drops off even while i am actively using it03:10
kitchea5benwillis: you run the application ./app -U03:10
Assidhrmm i wanna try beryl too.. 512 ram is minimum tho right ?03:10
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ubuntukitche it won't worek03:10
tehxedAssid, I don't know.03:10
a5benwillisahah03:11
tehxedAssid, I think 256 is.03:11
kitcheAssid: no it runs fine on 128 megs03:11
Talamantrying to get my system to default login at the "windows" or "gui" and not the command prompt03:11
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tehxedkitche, but nothing fancy with 128 megs.. right?03:11
aSt3raLsree: what wireless network?03:11
kryosAnyone have pointers,good info on setting up xorg, etc for old machine with serial mouse, etc?03:11
sreei tried to install ndiswrapper once but never managed to get it working03:11
gyaresuTalaman: can you get to the gdm login?03:11
Assidhrmm, whats the link to get it working ?03:11
aSt3raLsree: is it a home wireless?03:11
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wubrgamerhey guys03:11
wubrgameri need help03:11
a5benwilliskitche: I forgot abt that one03:11
sreeyeah home wireless03:11
Assidalso, how do i fix this widgetty stuff.. everything looks too ugly03:11
Talamanif i type sudo gdm from my login or gdm from the root login03:11
gyaresuTalaman: Is your computer just starting up and then crashing to the command prompt?03:11
wubrgamerreally i need help, i messed up my root password for mysql03:11
sreeno encryption03:11
ConstyXIVTalaman: do you mean auto-login the desktop, but not CMD?03:12
tehxedAssid, how far you along with the installation?03:12
wubrgamerhow do i COMPLETELY wipe mysql and reinstall ?03:12
tehxedAssid, the beryl installation03:12
kitchetehxed: beryl tends to use the card memory more03:12
Assidtehxed: not started03:12
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wubrgameri need NOTHIGN mysql related untill after the reinstall, no personalization has been done so far03:12
ubuntupfuuu in vmware from windows UBuntu work good,but when someone install it clean on the computer it work like shit.03:12
ubuntuGOodbye.03:12
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LapSmiley_hey guys03:12
tehxedkitche, have beryl running/03:12
Talamanno, i mean i want to see a gui window asking for my user name and password instead of a command prompt03:12
LapSmiley_how would i go about installing extra hardware03:12
Assidkitche: am using ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop package03:12
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ConstyXIVTalaman: you mean like the default install?03:12
LapSmiley_im a gentoo user, but i've got ubuntu on my laptop... so im looking to install the other bits, such as pcmcia.03:13
aSt3raLsree: have you tried network manager applet?03:13
gyaresuTalaman: Do you want help? If so could you maybe answer the questions? I've already asked you to post your Xorg log to pastebin. ConstyXIV please look up.03:13
kitchetehxed: not now but I ran it it ran pretty smooth for me on 256 megs and a 64 mb DDR2 geforce 2 card03:13
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sreeyeah I did... it showed up all the netorks.. but when i selected it did not connect to any03:13
aSt3raLsree: there also is a ndiswrapper gui for gnome03:13
HSBChi03:13
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tehxedkitche, that's pretty good to hear03:13
kitcheTalaman: you probably disabled gdm on boot03:14
HSBCyay i got +v?03:14
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geeksauceSWAT is giving me a giant headache.  i have followed these instructions to get it up and running on the ubuntu forums, and i can't even get it to where it's listening on port 90103:14
Assidtehxed: got a link for me to use? i got a amd1800, 256 ram (2 ram slots dead on my mobo) and geforce2 mx 440se03:14
blaze!firewall03:14
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).03:14
sreewhat does the gui actually give ?03:14
Talamangyaresu, i am getting it...i am also being asked questions by other people...and if i recall i got less help from you last time i asked about this problem03:14
HSBCoops03:14
SmileyLap!hardware03:14
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:14
blaze!games03:14
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org03:14
ConstyXIVTalaman: if you're running the default (k|x)ubuntu, that happens by default03:14
HSBC!help03:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:14
HSBC!google03:14
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux03:14
tehxedAssid, just reading up myself. I don't know much about Ubuntu or linux really. Just trying it out03:14
HSBC!Google Marissa03:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google marissa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
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HSBClol03:15
tehxedAssid, let me see if I can find you a link.03:15
kitche!fishing | HSBC03:15
ubotuHSBC: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...03:15
Assidthanks03:15
Talamanwhat happends by default, and what screen controls that default?03:15
gyaresuTalaman: I don't think I've ever helped you but best of luck.03:15
Talamanand how do i set it back to default03:15
Assidon another issue, anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop using gnome stuff? and use pure kde? the windows are looking too much like gtk widgets03:15
kitcheTalaman: go to /etc/init.d and see if gdm is green03:16
Assidi am currently using kubuntu-desktop package03:16
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Talamanand no gyaresu, you never have03:16
ConstyXIVAssid: go to System Settings-Apperance, and check to see if you're using gtk or kde apps03:16
elyon225Short of restarting X, what can I do when my desktop disappears?03:16
elyon225...background, all icons... gone.03:16
bulmerdid you happen to go to the console?03:17
HSBCbrains need play and work and ubuntu03:17
HSBC:)03:17
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ConstyXIVAssid: i meant to say, system settings-appearance, change all the themes to kde-ish stuff, and make sure youre actually using kde apps03:17
gyaresukitche: 'ls -l /etc/rc2.d/' all the K's are stopped. All the S's are started.03:17
yomm  does "sudo reboot" does exactly the same as "sudo shutdown -r now" ?03:18
ConstyXIVyomm: more or less, yes03:18
tehxedAssid, http://www.beryl-project.org/faq.php#gq503:18
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tehxedAssid, that's a pretty high standard. I think they need to get that checked.03:18
Talamankitche> it appears to be the same color as everything else there03:18
yommConsty : I heard the shutdown is the safest bet ..03:18
charlesany network experts here? I'm having a hell of a time setting up my gateway03:19
ConstyXIVyomm: or, if you would rather, "sudo init 6"03:19
ConstyXIVyomm: no difference from what I know03:19
yommIs that the safest , Consty ?03:19
sha1sumokay... so what's the ubiquity equivalent of the boot option 'priority=low' for debian-installer.... installing feisty (already verified it works)  If there's not an equivalent, is the ability to use debian-installer still available?03:19
aSt3raLcharles: whats the problem?03:19
yommI see !03:19
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sha1sum<---- control freak03:19
ConstyXIVyomm: i don't think there's any difference, but someone will correct me if im wrong :)03:19
kitcheTalaman: hmm maybe /etc/rc2.d is setup wrong I don't know to much about that fodler sicne I tend to like the BSD-style init system so I only play around with /etc/init.d folder and not /etc/rc2.d03:20
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charlesI can't get through my gateway to a public ip behind it03:20
tehxedcharles, Gateway laptop?03:20
aSt3raLheh03:20
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charlesno, network gateway03:20
sha1sumheheheh03:20
aSt3raLcharles: what sort of internet connection?03:20
Talamanso if i am in the gui (kde) what would i click on to set the gui login to default?03:20
fulat2kany idea what could cause my edgy installation to reload the login screen when coming back from a Suspend operation?03:20
sreeanyone think they can help me ?03:20
aSt3raLsree:  msg me03:21
blazeAny of you all play any games on *nix?03:21
charlesdsl -> (eth0: gateway : eth2) -> other machine with public ip03:21
yommConsty : many subtle differences on Linux sometimes :)03:21
ConstyXIVblaze: define "games"03:21
gyaresusree: or post your question and get everyones help...03:21
sha1sumwhy are everybody else's questions so quick to get answered? lol03:21
aSt3raLcharles: do you have any other machine working with this connection?03:21
fulat2kused to work b4 i installed Beryl.  but it still doesn't work properly even with beryl uninstalled.03:21
blazehow do you define games?03:21
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blazeI mean things you play for fun03:22
Linuturkcan I install Ubuntu from a floppy drive? I don't have a cdrom drive03:22
Assid0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]  (rev a3)03:22
Assidthat qualifies?03:22
jribsha1sum: you can use the alternate cd03:22
n2diysha1sum: the answers are known.03:22
blazebut locally03:22
blazeI don't mean wargames03:22
aSt3raLsree has a broadcom wireless issue03:22
Yggdrasilgyaresu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7292/03:22
techie1I thought the ubuntu disk had xchat in it to communicate in here but I had to go back to windows xp do so .03:22
Linuturksree: i've found ndiswrapper to be best for broadcom03:22
jrib!alternate | sha1sum03:22
ubotusha1sum: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.03:22
ConstyXIVblaze: hacking the kernel and recompiling for fun and profit :)03:22
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aSt3raLtechie1: sudo apt-get xchat03:22
Linuturkis there a floppy based installer for Ubuntu?03:22
techie1Also are there any icons on the lower part of the screen03:22
LinuturkI have net access, just no CD drive03:22
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AssidConstyXIV: you know the exact themes.. still looks a little too widgetty03:23
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jeff22hi, where do I get the package gnome-ppp?03:23
ConstyXIVtechie1: i think we dropped it from the default because gaim also does irc03:23
gyaresuYggdrasil: Why aren't you using the Realtek 8139. That works out of the box...03:23
Linuturkgaim for irc == fail03:23
techie1is gaim part of the program?03:23
Linuturk!floppy03:23
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone03:23
charlesaSt3raL, yeah I'm connected through the machine right now03:23
techie1I did not see it.03:23
Linuturk!floppy install03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about floppy install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:23
aSt3raLcharles: with ubuntu?03:23
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Yggdrasilgy its acting up03:23
aSt3raLcharles: whats the problem then?03:24
techie1also ubotu when you install via livecd does it partition automatically even though I have windows xp in my system?03:24
charlesaSt3raL, right now I'm connected through a nat'd machine. the other machine wont connect03:24
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SpacePuppytechie1: nope.. you gotta do it manually03:24
Yggdrasilgyaresu this is a box, thats stuck inside of a bucket and runs on my rooftop03:24
sreeI tried installing ndiswrapper without success03:24
aSt3raLubotu is a bot heh03:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot heh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
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tehxedDoes anyone the x-server driver's name for an ATI Radeon X200M?03:24
ConstyXIVblaze: on a more serious note, i do tend to play a good bit of mahjongg and holotz-castle, but that's because my lappy has no 3d03:24
charlesaSt3raL, the two machines behind the gateway are ubuntu, the gateway itself is debian03:24
sreehowever I also have a dapper version that works perfectly fine03:24
sreewith network manager03:24
prymeHow do you add aspell or hash to abiword?03:24
AndrewB!ati | tehxed03:24
ubotutehxed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:24
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Assidshould i use the aiglx method?03:25
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aSt3raLcharles: so one machine works and the other doesnt?03:25
Assidthat says recommended.. then it says may not work03:25
gyaresuYggdrasil: So you want to get the second card up for some other purpose?03:25
tehxedAndrewB, Thanks03:25
Yggdrasilgyaresu that realtek is broken, its only functional part of the time03:25
Talamanso if i am in the gui (kde) what would i click on to set the gui login to default?03:25
aSt3raLcharles: can you ask a more specific question?03:25
techie1Anyone is the double boot install with windows xp straightforward?03:25
Yggdrasili hd to write a script that restarts that eth0 on boot to get it up on a regular basis03:25
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charlesaSt3raL, I can get out from both machines, I can get in to the nat'd machine through port forwarding, I can't get to the public machine from the oustide03:26
gyaresuYggdrasil: Ah. And the box is actually already in the roof? So you are connecting via Wireless?03:26
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aSt3raLtechie1: yes03:26
HowDoIResetTheGuhmm03:26
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AndrewBtechie1: very. Install Windows first then GNU/Linux second. Make sure you have two partitions and its all easy.03:26
khaije1anyone now how fiesty is coming along?03:26
Yggdrasilgyaresu yes, its used as a wireless gateway03:26
khaije1*know03:26
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AndrewBkhaije1: Very well. :)03:26
aSt3raLcharles: you probably have to set up port forwarding to get into a machine from the internet for all machines03:26
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techie1<AndrewB>so i have to partition manually first03:26
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AndrewBtechie1: can do it from windows.03:27
gyaresuYggdrasil: Was the Lite-On card working before?03:27
techie1I already have windows xp03:27
Yggdrasilno03:27
techie1<AndrewB>explain further03:27
aSt3raLcharles: your dsl router has the only public ip address03:27
charlesaSt3raL, the other machine has it's own IP, so it should have it's own ports03:27
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Yggdrasilwell i assume it works03:27
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Yggdrasilcant see why it wouldnt03:27
khaije1AndrewB: it's expected to stick to the scheduled release window then?03:27
AndrewBtechie1: what file system you using on Windows?03:27
techie1<AndrewB>you mean going to NTFS03:27
aSt3raLcharles: what ip address is that?03:27
charlesaSt3raL, i own a block of 8 ips03:27
gyaresuYggdrasil: 'ifconfig'?03:27
Yggdrasilgyaresu ive got all day tomorow to play with it, its working for now . but i wanted to get it stable again03:27
techie1using NTFS for the partition03:27
techie1in windows xp professional03:27
AndrewBOk03:27
Yggdrasilgyaresu i gtta go are you gonna be on tomorrow03:27
techie1<AndrewB>go ahead, i am listneing03:28
Yggdrasilproblem is when i mess with the box i cant be online.03:28
gyaresuYggdrasil: Dunno. Maybe see you then.03:28
charlesaSt3raL, my network's gateway is 65.101.241.134, my personal gateway is 65.101.241.129, the other public ip is 65.101.241.133203:28
Yggdrasilyar thanks for the hel03:28
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techie1do i need system rescue to partition before installing03:28
Yggdrasilhelp03:28
gyaresuYggdrasil: np. See you tomorrow.03:28
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sreeoh what does the ndiswrapper gui give me ?03:28
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aSt3raLsree: just a way to set up a driver with ndis03:29
VilhelmsUgh, for some reason I can't open some programs... like random programs. I wasn't able to open Gnome X-chat but I can open xchat. I can't open x-terminal-emulator, I can't open bluefish, Its weird. :(03:29
AndrewBtechie1: two secs looking up a guide for you03:29
techie1<AndrewB>do I need to partition with system rescue before installing off the livecd?03:29
techie1<AndrewB>ok, thanks.03:29
sreedoes it make it easy to setup ndiswrapper and blacklist bcmw43xx03:29
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sreei mean i have tried this whole process of installing ndiswrapper many times on edgy without success03:30
Yggdrasilbbl03:30
aSt3raLbah if you two with networking problems want to msg me thats great03:30
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aSt3raLthis channel scrolls too much03:30
metafourHi all, I'm downloading Ubuntu as my first distribution and wnated to know how to have fluxbox installed and gnome removed03:30
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sreeaSt3raL .. how can i message u ?03:30
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simplaHeya03:30
AssidE: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-38603:30
Assidhrmm03:30
aSt3raLsree:  /msg aSt3raL message03:31
Assidwhat am i supposed to use?03:31
elyon225Short of restarting X, what can I do when my desktop disappears?03:31
elyon225...background, all icons... gone.03:31
techie1<AndrewB>I am actually trying to do a double boot with half/half with whatever space I got left which is about 23 gig03:31
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aSt3raLelyon225: you could try and restart gdm03:31
AndrewBI am not sure if gParted supports NTFS. Can anybody vairfy?03:31
aSt3raLit does not afiak03:31
JucaBlueshow do I upgrade rhytmbox to a newer version?03:32
AndrewBDidnt think so03:32
tehxedAnyone know how I can get my video card's bus identifier03:32
simplaCan anyone help me with dualbooting ubuntu and Windows XP with Grub.  I have 2 hdds, linux on one, and windows on the other.03:32
JucaBluesrhythmbox --version03:32
JucaBluesGnome rhythmbox 0.9.603:32
JucaBluesbut I want to have 0.9.803:32
tehxedAnyone know how I can get my video card's bus identifier03:32
aSt3raLJucaBlues: run synaptic package manager03:32
simplaIt comes up with errors when I try to boot from either through the grub menu.  If I pull one of the hdd's out, it works..  Any ideas on whats going on, or where I could look to help solve it?03:32
geeksaucealright sweet... i got swat to ask for auth info.  what do i put there?  it isn't accepting my normal info there03:32
techie1<AndrewB>Then Probably I must do it manually with system rescue and then install the livecd. Anybody knows?03:33
AndrewBtechie1: yeah looks that way.03:33
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techie1ok, good enough for me. thanks. I will report back and let you all know.03:33
techie1thanks for all the input.03:33
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techie1bye for now.03:33
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vox754I want to watch TV with vlc. It gives me an error that the "chroma" is not set or something like that. Any experience? I also have tried totem, and mplayer and so far I can only watch TV with xawtv.03:34
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simplajoin #grub03:35
RxDxwhat program should i use to up musics on ipod?03:35
geeksaucewhat should i be entering for the authentication info for SWAT?03:35
JucaBluesaSt3raL: I have opened synaptic. It says I have rhythmbox 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 installed03:35
posingaspopularRxDx: transfer to ipod?03:35
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RxDxposingaspopular, yes03:35
JucaBluesbut I want 0.9.8.How would I install that?03:35
Ironman273How come Rhythmbox doesn't play MP3s?  It says it need Gstreamer?03:35
jeff22does anyone know where I can get gnome-ppp package?03:35
sreeaSt3raL.. why ain't u responding.... ain't u getting my messages ?03:36
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AndrewBRxDx: gtkpod ?03:36
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RxDxAndrewB, thanks, ill try03:36
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posingaspopularRxDx: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/926603:36
jessie^^anyone know of an app I can use to monitor system temperature?03:36
RxDxposingaspopular, thanks03:36
charlessree, no luck for me either03:36
AndrewBsree: you need to be registered user on Freenode to send private messages.03:36
geeksauceSWAT help, anyone?03:36
aSt3raLJucaBlues: if its showing the latest version is installed than it should be03:36
AndrewBjessie^^: sensors03:37
aSt3raLsree: no i am not03:37
posingaspopularnp03:37
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sreeAndrewB how do i do that ?03:37
heathenstupid laptop overheating03:37
JucaBluesis there a way to intall a newer version of a software that was not packaged by ubuntu yet?03:37
AndrewBsree: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup03:37
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mikereJucaBlues: there's always compiling from source03:38
AndrewBsree: the person who you are PM'ing also needs to be registered.03:38
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Assidtehxed: which method did you use to install03:38
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AndrewBJucaBlues: get a very very new apt repo, or compile from source or CVS/SVN03:38
aSt3raL_sree:  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>03:38
tehxedAssid, give me link again03:39
tehxedAssid, i'm configuring xserver-xorg03:39
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jessie^^AndrewB: installed it, how do i get it on the panel?03:39
flibero03:39
JucaBluesmikere: thanks03:39
Assidhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu03:39
JucaBluesAndrewB: thanks03:39
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AndrewBjessie^^: oh on the panel? Im not sure.03:39
AndrewBjessie^^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278003:40
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geeksaucedefault SWAT password is???03:40
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BelialMkIIAt the start of this tutorial, where can i find the menu it is asking me to change things in on edgy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12240203:40
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Assidtehxed:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu03:40
yomm /exit03:40
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tehxedAssid, Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:41
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Assidtehxed: aiglx?03:41
kalikianaHow can I open a MS Works file (wps) or convert it to another format?03:41
AndrewBBelialMkII: your menu editor maybe hiding these options. check them out in menu editor.03:41
tehxedprobably going to ..with the ati03:42
BelialMkIIWill do, thanks AndrewB03:42
AndrewBnp03:42
FuzzyTheBeargot a problem fixing a machine .. trying to mount a ntfs volume to delete a bunch of files that are part of a bad trojan but it says even with the -w in the mount .. cant do it .. it's read only .. so im wondering if a ubuntu cd has a kernel with ntfs write options ? id very much appreciate the help . Thanks03:42
sree /msg NickServ IDENTIFY03:42
fnfIs there an app/Firefox extension that works on non-RSS enabled sites ?. I mean there're sites that don't have RSS Feeds but I want to automatically check when the page is changed.03:42
geeksauceanyone know what the default login info is for SWAT?03:42
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sree /msg NickServ IDENTIFY swatcat03:42
gyaresukalikiana: Have you tried OpenOffice. (I can't remember if it likes wps files or not)03:43
sreei tried this... didn't work03:43
AndrewBfnf: unlikly tbh.. to scrape off a page is a hard task.03:43
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geeksauceanyone know what the default login info is for SWAT?03:43
kalikianagyaresu, I did, doesn't work. :/03:43
arrenlexgeeksauce: Got it to work, eh? That's a good question. I've always used the root account.03:43
zperteeerror locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory.  Anyone know what this is all about03:43
fnfAndrewB: I think it wouldn't be hard to implement though, just periodically download the page then diff with the old file.03:44
gyaresukalikiana: I know MSOffice can't even open them. (How dumb is that?)03:44
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AndrewBfnf: I suppose so.. hmm. I have never heard of it tho..03:44
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fnfAndrewB: Thanks anyway.03:44
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AndrewBfnf: good luck03:44
geeksaucearrenlex, yeah i followed those directions on that page you gave me.  the file i had to add had a comment line suggesting that i change to a restricted user instead of root03:45
fnfAndrewB: The hard part is actually the UI that holds me from writing one :) .03:45
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kalikianagyaresu, I read in a forum that MS recommends to save it as RTF to open it in MS Office *harhar03:45
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geeksaucearrenlex, which i did, but it won't take my regular login info now03:45
gyaresukalikiana: Which doesn't help you any.03:45
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tom__ /msg ubotu03:46
elpargohi anyone knows if there is a openGL package for freeciv?03:46
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FuzzyTheBearcan a reent ubuntu live cd do write operations on a ntfs partition ?03:47
FuzzyTheBearcan a recent ubuntu live cd do write operations on a ntfs partition ?03:47
FuzzyTheBearsorry .. bad typing03:47
scienceboyhello again. i am a complete linux n00b. i use the synaptic program to download and install gnuchess, but it didn't turn up under applications>games. also, i don't know how to acess ~/.mozilla/firefox/ so that i can transfer my firefox settings from one computer to another03:47
gyaresukalikiana: shazam! http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=32E7205A-3880-4416-9260-57A96C8A9A76&displaylang=en03:47
arrenlexgeeksauce: You're outside the scope if my experience with swat now, sorry. = /03:47
gyaresukalikiana: not very Linuxy but maybe with Wine?03:47
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arrenlexHisss! microsoft.com! It burnssss uss.03:48
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sree:(03:48
AndrewBscienceboy: a .foo folder is hidden. on your browser go to View.. then hidden files.03:48
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AndrewBscienceboy: as for the other go into a terminal and enter gnuchess   and hit enter.03:48
hairulfrI have a cd with a scratch on, when reading normally, the file is ok, but when ripping (it needs to be an *.iso it doesn't work) anyway to slow down gnomebaker and make it more accurate03:48
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vox754FuzzyTheBear, have you tried installing !fuse with the live CD03:48
vox754!fuse03:48
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:48
contentsHey all, I've got a problem with my desktop. I've mounted a fat partition, and then later decided to change the name of the partition. So I changed the name in /etc/fstab and made a new folder in /media with the new name. But when I restart, the folder on the desktop still has the old name.03:48
jramseyapt-get cmd to install the kernel headers for dapper pls?03:48
scienceboyandrewB: what is a .foo file? i did that and i see it03:49
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AndrewBscienceboy: any directory with a . at the beginning [a prefix]  is a hidden dir.03:49
geeksaucearrenlex, ok.  well back to the original dilema... how to allow XP machines to view SMB shares without authentication03:49
contentsDoes anyone have any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated03:49
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elpargoFuzzyTheBear, no the kernel driver is not that stable03:49
AndrewBscienceboy: normally for settings of programs.03:49
scienceboyandrewb: thank you! but what about the file i dled and installed from synaptic?03:50
sreeguys trying to register keeps telling me sree nickname is taken03:50
sreehow do i register as another name ?03:50
gyaresusree: change your nick then try again.03:50
AndrewBsree: /nick newNick   /msg nickserv register [pass] 03:50
FuzzyTheBearelpargo  :  thank you  :)03:50
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heathenpeople register tjeir nics?03:50
posingaspopularsree: you need to /msg NickServ03:50
jramseyhow do i install the latest kernel headers compatible with my version of ubuntu?03:50
cafuego_heathen: of course, can't have some kid somewhere pretending to be me.03:51
arrenlexgeeksauce: http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf <-- Like that. Best answer I can give you. xD Sorry. The name in square brackets, like [AlexD] , is the share name. guest ok=yes is important for each one. security = SHARE is important in global -- that's the cornerstone for not having to enter a password. As for the rest, swat says it works, and it does.03:51
AndrewBscienceboy: try going into a terminal and typing   'gnuchess'03:51
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aSt3raL_sree: are you using a windows driver with ndiswrapper or a linux driver?03:51
heathenlol...  well, since heathen was taken before me,,,  guess im that kid03:51
arrenlex!headers | jramsey03:51
ubotujramsey: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages03:51
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jramseyarrenlex, ty03:51
jeff22how do I connect to the internet without a gnome-ppp package (I can't find one)03:51
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cafuego_heathen: it emans that when the real heathen comes back online, they might disconnect you and take the nick03:51
scienceboyandrewb: ok, i will try03:52
scienceboybrb03:52
deweyjeff22,  install kppp03:52
geeksaucearrenlex, hmm, do you think it could be a setting on the windows computer trying to access my shares?03:52
heathenbeen using it for a while,,, not too worried03:52
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Does that same computer access other Windows computers' shares without problems?03:52
arrenlexgeeksauce: Have you restarted samba since changing the conf?03:52
jeff22dewey kppp isn't available on the ubuntu disk either03:52
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cafuego_heathen: it's been unused for 2 years and a bit, i expect you could probably get a staff member to delete the registration for you, so you cna register it03:53
geeksaucearrenlex, good question... let me see03:53
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heathencaf,  how would i go about that?03:53
cafuego_heathen: check the www.freenode.net site for docs and faq :-)03:54
heathenthx03:54
Celldwelleralaright i had to reformat my laptop its a dell latitude 510, and now i can't get the dadgum onboard wifi card to get working again03:54
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jramseyarrenlex, i keep getting an error when i try installing any pkg; i just updated to dapper: error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7299/03:54
Ironman273Is the root password different than my password?03:54
Celldwellercan anayone help lol03:54
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cafuego_Ironman273: Yes, in that there isn't one.03:54
posingaspopularIronman273: i dont think so03:55
posingaspopularwhat are you trying to do03:55
geeksaucearrenlex, yes it can view other windows shares on other windows computers with no auth.  there is a setting on the serving xp boxes called "simple file sharing" that is enabled, though.  i don't know how to set that in linux, though03:55
Ironman273So if I type "su" and it asks for my root password it should be nothing?03:55
KalineWhat Cafuego said, there is no password for root by default.03:55
arrenlexjramsey: And what happens if you type no and press enter?03:55
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cafuego_Ironman273: You should type 'sudo -s' instead of 'su' and enter your own password.03:55
Celldwellerif you just installed ubuntu it's your own password03:55
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KalineIronman273: Use 'sudo -s'.03:55
Celldwellerinstalled it (again)03:55
Celldwellerlol03:55
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mptechcan the ubuntu/xubuntu installer non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions?03:56
Kalineirssi is nice. :E03:56
posingaspopularsudo passwd changes the password too03:56
cafuego_Ironman273: Ubuntu uses sudo and has the root account disabled by default, for security reasons.03:56
Ironman273cafuego: I'm trying to install java.  The instructions say to use su. You learn something new03:56
Ironman273:)03:56
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cafuego_Ironman273: What instructions?03:56
arrenlexgeeksauce: And you have restarted samba since changing the conf?03:56
Celldwellerlol can someone remind me how to get my broadcom 43xx blah blah to work again? =)03:56
hairulfrIronman273: www.ubuntuguide.org03:56
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jessie^^i have an hp pavillion dv6245us notebook. I don't need anything special to tell the fan to run, do I?03:57
Ironman273cafuego_: The instructions on the java website03:57
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cafuego_Ironman273: You shouldn't need any odd instructions at all, there are ubuntu packages.03:57
geeksaucearrenlex, i haven't changed the samba config at all... i'll double-check but everything seems to be in order03:57
cafuego_Ironman273: Don't suse those, please :-)03:57
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Ironman273cafuego_: from the sfotware packages?03:57
arrenlexgeeksauce: Pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf for me, I want to look through it.03:57
hairulfrIronman273: Don't use those,03:57
Ironman273Oops03:57
cafuego_Ironman273: Yeah, java is prepackaged (with plugin and everything)03:57
cafuego_unless you're on non-x86 hardware03:57
geeksaucearrenlex, thanks man, i appreciate it.  hang on i'll pastebin that for you03:58
Ironman273cafuego_: I have to get used to this software package thing.  I'm used to downloading everything :S03:58
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sgtmattbaker I have an extended partition I just created.  The logical partitions that are inside of it seem to be mounted by default as usbdisk's.. how do I automount them?03:58
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cafuego_Ironman273: Make sure the 'multiverse' repository is enabled, then simply 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre'03:58
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Pelocan someone tell me how to fix this error msg each time i try to use mplayer  ? : "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"03:58
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Celldwellerplease help me with the onboard chipset lol03:59
sgtmattbakercould someone start a private conversation to tell me how to automount my new partitions03:59
Ironman273cafuego_: OK, but I find the "Add/Remove Application" thing easier...  give a n00b a break ;)03:59
Celldwelleri've been searching for hours03:59
jramseyarrenlex, i get this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/36986903:59
cafuego_Pelo: Fix the config file or run 'mplayer -vo xv <file>'03:59
PeloCelldweller,  try looking it up in the forum03:59
Celldwellerand whataever i did athe first time i forgot03:59
kitchePelo: for me that message goes away if I add my user to the video group03:59
Celldwelleri did03:59
Celldwellerit's notvery cleara03:59
cafuego_Ironman273: synaptic will be fine too :-)03:59
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arrenlexjramsey: try apt-get remove --purge j2sdk1.4-doc03:59
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cafuego_Ironman273: cli is just a tad quicker, once you know the package names04:00
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sgtmattbaker I have an extended partition I just created.  The logical partitions that are inside of it seem to be mounted by default as usbdisk's.. how do I automount them?04:00
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geeksaucearrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7300/04:00
kalikianagyaresu, That program you posted is for MS Word only. :/04:00
Ironman273cafuego_: There's a Java 5.0 plugin and a Java 1.4 plugin for firefox.  Should 5.0 plugin be enough?04:00
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cafuego_Ironman273: Yup.04:00
AndrewB!fstab | sgtmattbaker04:00
ubotusgtmattbaker: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:01
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jramseyarrenlex, just remove it?? nothing else after that?04:01
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Ironman273cafuego_: BTW, the cli gave me an error04:01
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Pelocafuego,  the config file is mty , what do you suggest I put it04:01
gyaresukalikiana: I've just been messing around with it under wine. Can't find where it installs though.04:01
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rswitzercan someone help me configure multiple soundcards?04:02
arrenlexjramsey: Did it remove successfully?04:02
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Ironman273cafuego_: but synaptic seems to be working fine04:02
jramseyarrenlex, yep04:02
arrenlexjramsey: Then you're set.04:02
arrenlexjramsey: Unless you actually need java docs.04:02
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jramseyarrenlex, ok txs ... nah i dont really need them i just need synaptic to run when i want to add pkgs04:02
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AndrewBrswitzer: checkout http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Multisounds/04:03
Ironman273Are there any predefined folders for documents, music, photos, etc?  (I know, it's probably a typical Windows question)04:03
rswitzerthanks04:03
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contentsCould someone help me rename a partition? I renamed it in fstab, but the desktop still shows the old name.04:03
AndrewBrswitzer: never done it tho ;)04:03
premhigrp,could any 1 help me??04:03
`Z`poy04:03
cafuego_Ironman273: Nope, just create your own04:03
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Ironman273cafuego_: In my home directory?04:04
cafuego_Ironman273: I prefer to recreate the Mac OS folders - yes.04:04
AndrewBprem: ask your question.04:04
arrenlexgeeksauce: What name d'you want for this machine? I can't even find one in the conf.04:04
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Ironman273cafuego_: Not familiar with Mac OS04:04
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cafuego_Ironman273: Documents Pictures Movies04:04
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Regneris there any good tutorials/walkthroughs for setting up samba for a home NAS ?04:04
geeksaucethe xbox recognizes it as john_desktop i think04:05
AndrewBcafuego_: whats up? I am semi familure with MacOS04:05
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premAndrewB,my volume control crashed!!04:05
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cafuego_I also use Library to hold lihks to config directories and fonts etc04:05
xtknightw000000t...any questions?04:05
geeksaucearrenlex, the xbox recognizes it as john_desktop i think04:05
Ironman273cafuego: Java is saying it's having dependency problems... :-S04:05
AndrewBprem: sudo alsamixer04:05
premAndrewB,http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411346 this might help u04:05
JoseStefanMy grub meny doesn't show the "grub version" line at the top, is that normal? i think i messed it up04:05
AndrewBoh04:05
JoseStefanmenu*04:05
xtknight!gwos04:05
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gwos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
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cafuego_Ironman273: That probaly means the universe and multiverse repositories are missing04:05
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PeloJoseStefan,  #grub04:06
chipbuddyso i just recently got a hard drive partition recognized and mounted with ubuntu, but i can't change permissions on it. sudo chmod 777 music doesn't change anything04:06
chipbuddywhat do i do?04:06
zperteehow do I Enable universe repositories?  Help is much appreciated04:06
AndrewBprem: ok....no clue sorry to say.04:06
Ironman273cafuego: I went back to synaptic and it says I have 2 broken packages in my system.  How do I fix them?04:06
cafuego_chipbuddy: is it a FAT32 or NTFS partition?04:06
chipbuddyfat3204:06
xtknightchipbuddy: perhaps you need to mount the partition with a umask of 02204:06
Pelochipbuddy, 75504:06
xtknight777-755=022 umask04:06
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mptechcan the ubuntu/xubuntu installer non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions?04:07
arrenlexgeeksauce: This box sharing a printer?04:07
chipbuddyin fstab when i'm mounting it?04:07
xtknightchipbuddy: yes in options for that fstab line04:07
AndrewBzpertee: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories04:07
premAndrewB,dude i could open volume panel with i command u just gave me...how to change sound settings??04:07
Regnerwhat is the name of the program that will test the apt mirrors and find the fastest one for you ?04:07
chipbuddythansk04:07
chipbuddythanks04:07
AndrewBprem: it is als ncurses based. arrow keys etc.04:07
geeksaucearrenlex, nope04:07
cafuego_chipbuddy: fat32 doesn't support file permissions (at all) so you need to set it at boot time via fstab.04:07
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chipbuddyah... so everyone on my system can do anything to the fat partition?04:07
premAndrewB,my master volume is mute04:08
Ironman273cafuego: It said to search with the term "broken" and when I did it came up with "Synaptic Package Manager" and "Klean Sweep" (which is not installed)04:08
cafuego_chipbuddy: Not if you add a uid=<your uid> option04:08
xtknightchipbuddy: yea as long as windows isn't governing the partition in any way.  windows loses control of it when you access the partition from antoher OS.  that parition is not encrypted04:08
herpezhi, im having some troubles installing beryl on an ati radeon x700, it crashes when i load beryl manager, where can i get help04:08
cafuego_chipbuddy: use uid/gid/umask to determine ownership and permissions04:08
AndrewBprem: a sec..04:08
AndrewBprem: hit M04:08
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AndrewBtry that04:08
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cafuego_Ironman273: urrmmm...04:09
BelialMkIIwhats the package name for sshd in ubuntu04:09
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cafuego_BelialMkII: openssh-server04:09
AndrewBBelialMkII: ssh-server04:09
BelialMkIIthanks04:09
AndrewBor that ;)04:09
Ironman273cafuego: Great.  I broke Ubuntu in less than 24 hours04:09
cafuego_Ironman273: <hehe>04:09
AndrewBIronman273: one way to learn.04:09
jessie^^i have an hp pavillion dv6245us notebook. I don't need anything special to tell the fan to run, do I?04:09
cafuego_Ironman273: Did you enable multiverse and universe in synaptic?04:09
xtknighti break ubuntu every 24 hours04:09
tehxedHow the hell do I apply a theme in Beryl?04:09
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Ironman273cafuego: Yes04:09
RegnerBelialMkII: openssh-server04:10
xtknighttehxed: emerald theme manager04:10
eternalswdanyone experienced with writing xevent polling functionality in c++?04:10
tehxedyeah, i'm in there04:10
tehxednow i want to apply one04:10
tehxedhow?!04:10
cafuego_Ironman273: Ok, open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update' (make sure synaptic is not running)04:10
xtknighttehxed: click one04:10
vox754mptech, it should be safe to resize the partition. You should defragment the drive first.04:10
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tehxedxtknight, i did04:10
tehxednothing happens04:10
AndrewBeternalswd: try in ##c++04:10
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xtknighttehxed: maybe there's an issue with yor beryl.  mine themes it when i simply click one of the themes inthe list04:10
Ironman273cafuego: it fetched 3Bytes04:10
tehxedxtknight, let me restart04:10
cafuego_Ironman273: That will update the lists of available packages.04:11
xtknighttehxed: just restart your wm maybe? (i.e. beryl-manager)..04:11
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Ironman273cafuego: It still lists the same 2 packages under "broken"04:11
cafuego_Ironman273: Ok, now run 'sudo apt-get -f install'  - that SHOULD fetch the missing package(s) that is/are causing java to be broken.04:11
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xtknightjessie^^: no, but you can use a special 'governor' to govern fan/cpu frequency scaling04:11
angasule!burn04:12
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto04:12
premAndrewB,any way to get back the default volume manager?04:12
xtknightjessie^^: other than that the fan is generally on full speed04:12
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armenbhi04:12
Ironman273cafuego: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."04:12
n3rrdWould anyone happen to know why a burnt Ubuntu install disc will pass the integrity check on one computer, but fail on another?  It passes on a more modern computer, but fails on an IBM T21.04:12
AndrewBprem: I ain't sure I am sorry to say..04:12
armenbi'm having a stupid problem with ubuntu.04:12
xtknightarmenb: elaborate ;)04:12
Ironman273cafuego: But Java is installed :-/04:12
AndrewB!welcome | armenb04:12
ubotuarmenb: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.04:12
xtknightn3rrd: memory errors on the other pc, or disk drive issues04:12
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Okay, try this04:12
cafuego_Ironman273: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:12
xtknightn3rrd: i recommend using the memtest on ubuntu cd04:12
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak04:13
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n3rrdxtknight:  I ran it for a bit, without any errors.  Knoppix boots and runs fine, and Slack doesn't seem to have any issues.04:13
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/johnsmb.conf -O/etc/samba/smb.conf04:13
Ironman273cafuego: OK.  It immediately went back to the command line.  BTW what dies sudo stand for?04:13
wiseahey guys, i'm having a problem accessing some files inside music programs... i mounted my ntfs hdd and i can see the files in terminal... but not in any of my media programs (xmms or rhythembox)04:13
gradini've got a problem...04:13
armenbsure. modules specified in /etc/modules are not loaded upon bootup.04:13
Ironman273*dies=does04:13
armenbcan you suggest a way i can debug the situation?04:13
n3rrdxtknight: WinXP also installed without problems.04:13
xtknightn3rrd: it could be anything from the disc media, to the disk drive's tolerance of disk-read errors, to your motherboard's controller to an internal component like memory or the cpu04:13
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload04:13
AndrewBwisea: seems like a permissions error.04:13
herpezneed help config beryl on radeon x700, anyone?04:14
pablo_how can i do for configure my sound card with 2 outs?04:14
cafuego_Ironman273: sudo executes commands as root user04:14
gradinmy backup server says unable to access dpkg status area: read-only filesystem when i try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a04:14
n3rrdxtknight:  Yeah... frusturating.  I'll try another burner, I suppose.04:14
wiseaAndrewB: i set fstab to user04:14
armenbi'm running ubuntu dapper.04:14
gradinwhat do i do to fix it?04:14
xtknightarmenb: i believe you need to put them in the 'modules' under initramfs.  i dont think /etc/modules is used by ubutnu04:14
Ironman273cafuego: But does it stand for something?04:14
wiseado i have to change anything else?04:14
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xtknightn3rrd: burn at 1x04:14
cafuego_Ironman273:  Super User DO04:14
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AndrewBwisea: ok not sure..04:14
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Ironman273cafuego: DO as in to do or doing something?04:14
n3rrdxtknight: Alright, I'll try burning slower.  I'm also redownloading the ISO from another source, just incase.04:14
wiseaAndrewB: /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw 0       004:14
premcould anyone help??how to get back volume manager??04:14
armenbxtknight - i don't think i'm using initrd...04:14
mptechwhat the equivalent of debian unstable in ubuntu?04:14
cafuego_Ironman273: Ok, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin'04:15
arrenlexgeeksauce: If this works, you can try making the server's name longer, but I couldn't remember how many characters the name was limited to so I went with the safe thing and made < 8.04:15
mptech*what's04:15
xtknightarmenb: sorry, actually i think /etc/modules IS used by ubuntu.04:15
xtknightarmenb: i was thinking of modules.conf which lists modules and parameters04:15
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Ironman273cafuego: Java installed OK, even with the errors it gave me04:15
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cafuego_Ironman273: If that spits out errors, can you put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?04:15
armenbxtknight - well if it is, for some reason, ubuntu isn't parsing it correctly/at all.04:15
xtknightarmenb: youre not using initrd?04:15
pablo_how can i do for configure my sound card with two outs?04:15
cafuego_that's peculiar04:15
xtknightn3rrd: um do an md5 check?04:15
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armenber, not afaik...how do i check if i am again?04:15
gradinmptech: i think your refering to the unstable respoistorys... try /etc/apt/sources.list04:15
Ironman273cafuego: even though it's installed already?04:15
xtknightarmenb: pastebin it04:15
pablo_'cause i have four speakers04:15
nweaver916anyone here who can help with torrent problems? #Azureus-support is dead :(04:15
armenbit's been awhile since i've done linux sysadmin-type stuff, quite obviously...04:16
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armenbpastebin what?04:16
mptechgradin, I am referring to installing from unstable repositories04:16
xtknight!pastebin | armenb04:16
ubotuarmenb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:16
xtknightarmenb: your /etc/modules04:16
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cafuego_Ironman273: No, not if it's already installed. It's just weird it says it has broken packages.04:16
cafuego_coffee-mug: go fill yourself, then come back.04:16
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gradinmptech: yep then you want to remove the # infront of the repositorys marked unsable in your /etc/apt/sources.list04:16
chipbuddyexit04:17
premcould anyone help??how to get back volume manager??04:17
Ironman273cafuego: Well I'm about to run Azureus, so that'll tell me if the runtimes are installed but the browser plugin is definitely working04:17
xtknightprem: back to your gnome panel?04:17
gradinmptech: then do a sudo apt-get update04:17
armenbxtknight - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7302/04:17
cafuego_Ironman273: the plugin depends on the runtime, so it should be04:17
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mptechgradin, I would like to know if it's possible to do it before the install04:17
xtknightprem: first, do you have any alsa devices?  'sudo asoundconf list' in the console, pastebin it please04:17
geeksaucearrenlex, now the share doesn't even show up on other machines :(04:17
premxtknight,ye04:17
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arrenlexgeeksauce: That's even the opposite of helpful! :(04:17
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gradinmptech: you mean from a networked install?04:17
xtknightarmenb: how are you deducing that those modules have not been laoded?04:17
armenbthe most important thing that is not being loaded is tulip, which drives my network card :-P04:17
roho!beryl04:18
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:18
armenbxtknight - lsmod|grep <foo>04:18
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xtknightprem: put 'gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable' in your session for Startup apps04:18
Quintoxisis there a way when installing ubuntu to rather than have a GUI have a text based install that shows you whats happening? it keeps jamming for me when installing and i would like to find out when & why04:18
gradinmy backup server says unable to access dpkg status area: read-only filesystem when i try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a04:18
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gradinwhat do i need to do to fix it?04:18
xtknightarmenb: interesting...... what happens if you type 'sudo modprobe tulip'  and errors printed to dmesg?04:18
gradini was just trying to install kde04:18
arrenlexgeeksauce: And what happens if you type \\JOHNDSKP\ in Windows Explorer?04:18
JoseStefanMy grub menu doesn't show the "grub version" line at the top, is that normal? i think i messed it up04:19
xtknightgradin: i dont know.  for some reason you root file system is read only.  did you use the sysrq key or sometihng?  i'm not sure how that would happen otherwise04:19
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armenbxtknight - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7303/04:19
mar2686hi04:19
Ironman273cafuego: everything is working fine.  I've read that Brasero is a good burning software but it's not in the software packages.  Do I install that from their website?04:19
gradinxtknight: not to my knowledge04:19
geeksaucearrenlex, the folder i had shared is no longer shared (when i right-click and click share folder it is set to "do not share")04:19
premxtKnight:http://paste.biz/paste-711.html04:19
xtknightarmenb: i dont see anything odd04:20
premxtKnight: http://paste.biz/paste-711.html04:20
armenbthe module loads fine. it just looks like its not getting loaded.04:20
gradinxtknight: how can i fix it?04:20
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xtknightarmenb: is tulip blacklisted anywhere?04:20
armenbyeah, exactly, that's my stupid problem :-P04:20
arrenlexgeeksauce: ?? where is this?04:20
cafuego_Ironman273: You don't really need any burning software for Ubuntu, just insert a CD, drag stuff to the icon and click 'burn' :-)04:20
armenb"blacklisted"?04:20
armenbyou can blacklist modules?04:20
geeksaucenautilus04:20
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xtknightprem: so did you try gnome-volumne-manager in startup (see above) and restart gnome?04:20
lemoniceblockHi all, I'm trying to compile ndiswrapper and when I am following the community docs04:20
wiseahey anybody that can help me... I just did a fresh install of xubuntu 6.10... its great, exept for that i cant access any of my media on my ntfs hdd04:20
xtknightarmenb: yes, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*04:20
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wiseai can access files with the terminal, but not within applications04:21
Ironman273cafuego: Thanks, that helps!  Off to search for more software then...04:21
xtknightwisea: mount the partition with a umask of 022 in fstab04:21
cafuego_Ironman273: :-)04:21
lemoniceblockWhen I type sudo make uinstall, it says that it cannot remove something04:21
premok04:21
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lemoniceblockI've repeated that step a few times now, and it still has that error, is this normal?04:21
xtknightwisea: umask means user mask.  it is an octal number, 777-nnn=your umask.  nnn is traditional permissions style (755 in this case)04:21
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armenbxtknight - according to those files, no. and something else there claims to be blacklisted and "replaced by tulip"04:21
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geeksaucearrenlex, in nautilus04:21
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xtknightarmenb: hm which module would that be?04:22
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Ah...04:22
wiseaxtknight: okay, where do i add that in fstab?  heres my entry right now...  /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw 0       004:22
xtknightgradin: um reboot?04:22
bird603568when i do a mount it says "mount: not a directory"04:22
armenbxtknight - either way, is there an easy way to debug this situation?04:22
arrenlexgeeksauce, okay, try this version:04:22
xtknightgradin: first check 'df -h' pastebin that please04:22
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/johnsmb.conf -O/etc/samba/smb.conf04:22
gradinxtknight: well thats intresting just rebooted and it said my root filesystem failed a fsck and that i need to run it manually04:22
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload04:22
bird603568and im trying to mount it to /mnt/cdrom and its a dir because i made it04:22
DigitalNinjaIs there a way to network boot an install? I've got a 1U server without a CD drive.04:22
xtknightgradin: the error may be irrecoverable if you reboot now.  maybe youre out of disk space04:22
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armenbxtknight - the module that was blacklisted is de4x504:22
armenbi have no idea what its for.04:22
xtknightwisea:  /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw,umask=0022 0       004:22
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wiseathanks xtknight  :)04:23
vox754lemoniceblock, sorry that my guide wasn't good enough. Try "locate ndiswrapper" and removing every file you find with that name.04:23
xtknightgradin: well let it go fsck04:23
premxtknight:restarted04:23
lemoniceblockvox754: hehe, don't say that~ at least it's something for me to work with04:23
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xtknightarmenb: umm sorry i really dont know.  why isn't ubuntu loading tulip automatically anyway?04:23
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xtknightprem: ok do you see volume manager in gnome panel now?04:23
lemoniceblockvox754: at that stage, should I be trying to remove things though?04:24
premxtknight: no04:24
armenbxtknight - i have no idea! i don't even know how to debug this situation.04:24
wiseaxtknight: thanks, it works now04:24
armenbit would be really swell if i could get a bootlog somewhere04:24
xtknightprem: right click empty spot on top of gnome panel, goto add to panel, and select volume control04:24
nandovieirahi... I'm trying to install Ubuntu. But when I run install, a message saying something about a fat32 error stops the installation... Any command I can run on windows to fix this errors?04:24
xtknightarmenb: dmesg is essentially a bootlog (kernel log actually)04:24
AndrewBnandovieira: try a defrag on the partition.04:24
xtknightarmenb: i really don't know how to fix it nor how to debug it in this case04:24
Ironman273To get into themeing, you have to find themes for Gnome, not Ubuntu, correct?04:24
armenbyeah, kernel log is useless for stuff like this though.04:25
xtknightIronman273: not sure what you mean04:25
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AndrewBIronman273: yes.04:25
xtknightIronhand: what is an Ubuntu theme?04:25
bird603568anyone?04:25
nandovieiraAndrewB: Ok... I'll try it!04:25
xtknightIronman273: ^04:25
geeksaucearrenlex, still not showing up, still not showing as a shared folder04:25
armenbits the rc scripts (or whatever modern distros call them these days) that actually do module loading04:25
vox754lemoniceblock, yep. I think I tried that before and it worked. You know, with the kernel update my wireless stopped working. I recompiled and I'm happy as a penguin again.04:25
xtknightarmenb: right, i dont know.  maybe pipe those to output or something04:25
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premxtknight: thankks mann tht was simple04:25
armenbhow do i do that? :-P04:25
xtknightarmenb: or put sudo modprobe tulip in one of them04:25
Ironman273xtknight: Exactly, that's what I figured.  The themes are for Gnome not Ubuntu.  I'm still learning my way around, just installed last night04:25
armenbgar. stupid linux :P04:25
xtknightarmenb: heh ;)04:25
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lemoniceblockvox754: so after I use 'locate ndiswrapper' I should delete everything that shows up?04:26
xtknightIronman273: well there are no themes for 'ubuntu'.. you're either finding gtk themes, or metacity, or gnome display manager themes, or kernel usplash themes04:26
xtknightIronman273: they are all distro-independent04:26
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bird603568SLACKWARE04:26
bird603568you guys suck cock04:26
armenbbtw in ubuntu04:26
bird603568ps im drunk04:26
arrenlexgeeksauce: Could you pastebin "sudo cat /var/log/samba/samba.log | tail -n 50" please?04:26
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arrenlex!ops04:27
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso04:27
xtknightbird603568: i noticed.  do yourself a favor04:27
armenbhow do i prevent it from doing a graphical boot?04:27
Ironman273xtknight: right.  Thanks for confusing the heck out of me now :-P  So to change the way Ubuntu looks, what should I search for?04:27
xtknightarmenb: hmm, remove usplash?  this may be helpful:04:27
AndrewBbird603568: that is not language for a GNU/Linux help channel. Take yourself somewhere else.04:27
xtknight!usplash | armenb04:27
armenbmaybe i can see something interesting as it whizzes uselessly past my screen...04:27
ubotuarmenb: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork04:27
xtknightIronman273: no problem, im' known for doing that :D04:27
xtknightIronman273: umm well what do you want to change?  what aspect of your desktop?04:27
geeksaucearrenlex, i checked the config file you told me to use... it references dhcp.conf  ...i'm not sure what this file is, bit i know i have DHCP disabled on my router. all IP's are manually assigned.04:27
vox754lemoniceblock, I think what has the name "ndiswrapper" on it. Those modules .ko or .so, and config files under "/etc". You can't break your system, don't worry too much.04:27
`MatirI'm having trouble with a USB hard drive enclosure... it gives me all sorts of errors, shown here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7304/04:27
armenbby the way, is "dapper" considered old these days?04:28
arrenlexgeeksauce: Hmmmmm.04:28
wiseadag... ubuntu doesn't come with mp3 support?04:28
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wiseaweird04:28
AndrewBwisea: legal reasons.04:28
Ironman273xtknight: Well, in Windows terms something like a Windowblinds theme.  Changes the appearance of, well, the windows and such.04:28
armenbis fiesty the distro after dapper, and is it reasonably stable?04:28
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xtknight`Matir: looks like hard disk problems.  try disabling dma on it to debug?04:28
AndrewBarmenb: it is stil in beta.. try at own risk.04:28
lemoniceblockvox754: alright, thanx ^^04:28
geeksaucearrenlex, "cat: /var/log/samba/samba.log: No such file or directory"04:28
eternalswdno, fiesty is not stable yet04:28
gradinxtknight: buffer i/o error on device dm-0 logical block 20 blocks and counting04:28
wiseaAndrewB: where should i get the codec?04:28
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premxtknight: nautilus is crashing frequently..i have to always do a start in recovery mode..any ideas??04:28
wiseado they have it in add/remove?04:28
AndrewBwisea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:28
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eternalswdwisea, it depends on what player you are using04:28
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arrenlexgeeksauce: I give up. Restore your samba from /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak and good luck getting it to work. = / Sorry.04:29
xtknightIronman273: metacity (for window borders), and gnome (or gtk) themes for buttons and widgets.  put them in /usr/share to make them user-independent.  user themes are stored in ~/.themes/04:29
KG4KBUhi all04:29
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KG4KBUanyone in here04:29
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`Matirxtknight, it's USB so hdparm can't turn off DMA04:29
xtknightprem: hm not relaly.  mine used to do that a lot the only way i solved it was to reinstall :(04:29
geeksaucearrenlex, what is the dhcp.conf file for?04:29
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AndrewBKG4KBU: yeah 927 are in here ;)04:29
xtknight`Matir: hmm.  youre right.  usb prolly doesn't even have dma righT?04:29
Ironman273xtknight: Thx.  Now I get it (I think)04:29
xtknightgradin: well good luck04:29
KG4KBUkewl04:29
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KG4KBUwhat is this room all about04:29
KG4KBU??04:29
xtknight`Matir: try a fsck on the partition?04:30
xtknight!welcome | KG4KBU04:30
ubotuKG4KBU: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.04:30
gradinxtknight: does that mean my drive is crashing?04:30
`Matirxtknight, it can't even read the partition table04:30
arrenlexgeeksauce: Dunno. I use dhcp myself, but that file doesn't exist on my system. It's just one of those lines that the magical swat put in it.04:30
`MatirKG4KBU, ham?04:30
Yggdrasilkg4kbu04:30
Yggdrasilu ham ?04:30
xtknightgradin: no.  it just means the filesystem table may be corrupted, not necessarily anything more04:30
KG4KBUim looking for a chat for singles or something04:30
KG4KBUyeah04:30
KG4KBUham04:30
Yggdrasiljoin #HAMRADIO04:30
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KG4KBUa young ham04:30
xtknight`Matir: do you want anything on the usb disk?04:30
KG4KBUhehe04:30
YggdrasilOK BBL04:30
gradinxtknight: right then so reinstall?04:30
TurgonIs there a way to change Ubuntu's sensibility to the scrolling of the mouse's wheel? Thanks.04:30
xtknight`Matir: i mean, would you like to just wipe it all?04:30
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xtknightgradin: naw let fsck go04:31
AndrewBTurgon: yeah. Preferneces -> Mouse.04:31
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`Matirxtknight, I already tried, fdisk throws errors04:31
KG4KBUbut does anyone have a good room to find a woman04:31
geeksaucearrenlex, oh ok.  should it be set to "read-only=yes"?04:31
KG4KBUlike a singles room04:31
xtknightKG4KBU: #ubuntu-offtopic04:31
AndrewBKG4KBU: freenode is not here for that purpose please read http://freenode.net/index.shtml04:31
eternalswdprobably not on freenode :p04:31
shatratKG4KBU, I think all linux channels are inherently singles rooms04:31
arrenlexgeeksauce: If you don't want it written to, yeah.04:32
KG4KBUalright04:32
xtknight`Matir: hmm.  well what about wiping the mbr manually?04:32
arrenlexshatrat: Hey! I resemble that remark! >=|04:32
KG4KBUdalnet or something04:32
KG4KBUi dunno04:32
KG4KBUim new to irc04:32
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TurgonAndrewB : thanks but I don't have that option (I use Edgy)04:32
tehxedanyone know why themes won't load when i click on them in Emerald theme manager?!?04:32
xtknight`Matir: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/blkdevice count=1 bs=51204:32
AndrewBTurgon: should have it somewhere still..04:32
xtknight`Matir: only do that on your usb disk! :004:32
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xtknighttehxed: #beryl04:33
tehxedthanks04:33
`Matirxtknight, yeah04:33
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geeksaucearrenlex, i ask because you have writeable set to no and read-only set to no as well04:33
Hatty_does anyone know why i wouldnt be able to execute a file (it says its not found) even though its in the current directory. I can still run cat and file and stuff on it, but it won't execute (yes it is +x)04:33
armenbhmm04:33
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armenbis udev used for network interfaces too?04:33
burepe_anyone get flash working in firefox? I installed it in flock and now it won't start so I am a little scared to mess up firefox04:34
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omeilumm so linux can't write in ntfs?04:34
xtknightHatty: file system 'user' parameter?  but there's probably something else04:34
AndrewBHatty: sh ./script.sh?04:34
burepe_yeah04:34
xtknightomeil: writing support is experimental or limitd04:34
AndrewBomeil: it is dodgy04:34
HattyAndrewB: Its an elf binary, from asm i wrote04:34
arrenlexgeeksauce: Oh, it probably doesn't like that. But the version before didn't have a writable parameter at all.04:34
arrenlexgeeksauce: Hold on...04:34
AndrewB!ntfs | omeil04:34
ubotuomeil: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:34
xtknightomeil:  but ntfs writing (stable but limited) is in kernel.  full and experimental support is available via ntfs-3g04:34
omeiloh ok04:34
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AndrewBHatty: just   ./script04:35
xtknightHatty: type file <file-you-want-to-execute>04:35
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Aha. What happens if you run the testparm command with that file?04:35
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omeilits just that i only got a 5gb parition for Ubuntu and not much can be done with that limited amount of space.04:35
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xtknightburepe_: yes i have it working in firefox04:35
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Hattyxtknight: mycat: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped04:35
burepe_how did you install it?04:35
xtknightHatty: type "./mycat" at the terminal to execute it04:35
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Hattyxtknight: bash: ./mycat: No such file or directory04:36
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Hattyxtknight: its there, but it wont execute04:36
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xtknightHatty: `sudo chmod 777 mycat` to avoid silly things i guess04:36
xtknightHatty: then try it04:36
arrenlexHatty: chmod +x mycat04:36
Hattyxtknight: its +x04:36
xtknighthe said +x didnt work either04:36
omeilcan someone help me i am a noob source installer :) i want to install wine04:36
xtknightHatty: chmod a+x ?04:36
AndrewB!wine | omeil04:36
ubotuomeil: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:36
master5o1i want to talk to a bot!04:36
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arrenlex!hi | master5o104:36
ubotumaster5o1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:37
geeksaucearrenlex, i don't know anything about that command04:37
Hattyxtknight: just did 777, still wont04:37
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burepe_!flash04:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:37
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash04:37
xtknightHatty: type 'mount | grep /root/partition' and report the parameters used to mount the partition you're currently on04:37
lemoniceblockhmmn that's not working >.<""04:37
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arrenlexgeeksauce: It's a samba command to test the config file. Run it as "testparm <file>" for a specific file or just testparm for /etc/samba/smb.conf.04:37
AndrewBHatty: output of ls -l ./mycat04:37
Ironman273xtknight: I got the themes and I got the icons.  What do I do with an "engine"?04:38
HattyAndrewB: -rwxrwxrwx 1 hatty hatty 2411 2007-02-23 18:06 ./mycat04:38
omeil!wine04:38
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:38
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xtknightIronman273: engines must be installed as they are libraries04:38
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Hattyxtknight: /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)04:38
Ironman273xtknight: the whole cli thing, huh?04:38
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omeilshould i install wine using the source or should i download the package?04:39
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xtknightIronman273: usually you have to compile the engine and make install will put it in the proper location (if you configure with prefix=/usr). otherwise some sites have ubuntu pkgs you just install to get the engine working04:39
armenbxtknight - ooh. im getting somewhere.04:39
xtknightHatty: fsck the partition04:39
omeilcause i already have the tared source . but im not sure how to install it that way04:39
xtknightarmenb: eh?04:39
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armenbi have my root on /dev/md004:40
Ironman273xtknight: OK, thx.  That looks like it'll be for another time04:40
geeksaucearrenlex, wow all kinds of errors... i'll pastebin04:40
armenbthat may be causing a problem04:40
xtknightarmenb: raid/lvm right?04:40
Hattyxtknight: should i reboot and go into a livecd to do that or is it safe?04:40
armenbactually, no lvm, just raid04:40
xtknightHatty: hm yeah reboot into a livecd.04:40
arrenlexgeeksauce: Really? It must be because I don't use ubuntu, so the versions of samba are different.04:40
Hattyk04:40
xtknightHatty: hey, see if it'll execute from the livecd maybe04:40
armenbi'm getting modprobe errors in the bootup screen when i turn off splash04:40
Hattyxtknight: alright04:40
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xtknightHatty: what happens if you do sudo ./mycat though?04:41
geeksaucearrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7305/04:41
JrabbitHello04:41
xtknightHatty: also, that executable looks like it's dynamically linked.  try ldd ./mycat to list libraries04:41
armenbfucking linux console.04:41
xtknight!language04:41
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:41
JrabbitNautilus is erroring out.04:41
Hattyxtknight:sudo: unable to execute ./mycat: No such file or directory04:41
armenbsorry,04:41
xtknightjust swear in your status window ; )04:41
xtknightHatty: try ldd..04:41
Hattyxtknight: its linked to libc, i linked it04:41
Hattyxtknight: /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: ./mycat: No such file or directory04:42
xtknightHatty: yeah go fsck it, it's messed04:42
armenbok i essentially know what my problem is04:42
Hattyk04:42
arrenlexgeeksauce: LOL XD04:42
armenbit's that my files are on a raid device04:42
omeilumm i have a problem. when i try to install wine from the add/remove it tells me Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)????04:42
arrenlexgeeksauce: Well that would explain everything!04:42
armenband the raid drives aren't mounted until later.04:42
JrabbitTrying to do a dpkg fix, upgrade was interupted by XGL kill keystroke04:42
armenbwhich is silly of ubuntu.04:42
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xtknightarmenb: hmm but what would that have to do with tulip?04:43
armenbit's not tulip in particular04:43
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xtknightomeil: uhh do you have a 64bit ubuntu?04:43
geeksaucearrenlex, you figure it out?04:43
armenbubuntu isn't loading *ANY* of the modules in my /etc/modules04:43
HowDoIResetTheGubrb04:43
omeilno i don't04:43
arrenlexgeeksauce: xDDD See something wrong here? params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: <title>KDE Simple File Server</title>04:43
armenband i think its not doing that because it can't find the modules04:43
xtknightomeil: what happens if you type 'sudo apt-get install wine' from the terminal?04:43
armenbbecause they haven't been mounted yet.04:43
arrenlexparams.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: <NOFRAMES>04:43
omeilhmm haven't tried04:43
xtknighthtml is in your samba04:43
omeilone second04:43
xtknightlol04:43
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xtknightarmenb: ahhh04:44
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xtknightarmenb: i dont think they'd be that stupid though...hmmmmm04:44
armenbdoes anyone here know the name of the function that reads /etc/modules and tries to line-by-line modprobe the modules?04:44
xtknightit's probably an rc script04:44
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omeilumm i have a problem. when i try to install wine from the add/remove it tells me Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)????04:44
armenbbecause if i can just stuff those commands in my rc.local that will probably work for me.04:44
omeiloops sorry lol04:44
betatuxarmenb, depmod -a ?04:44
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/369917 -O/etc/samba/smb.conf04:44
omeilPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:44
omeilThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:44
omeilis only available from another source04:44
omeilE: Package wine has no installation candidate04:44
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xtknightomeil: type 'uname -a'04:45
Jrabbit * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.04:45
arrenlexgeeksauce: then run testparm again04:45
omeilLinux omeil-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux04:45
geeksaucearrenlex, how is there html in there? lol... i should have known something was funny when it opened in ff by default, lol04:45
JrabbitHow do I do this?04:45
JrabbitRestart X?04:45
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AndrewBJrabbit: ctrl+alt+del04:45
JrabbitLogout?04:45
xtknightomeil: do you have any extra repositories loaded?04:45
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TLP-CD...erm....how do i put a shortcut to my home folder on my desktop....04:45
Jrabbitthank you04:45
omeilyea04:45
XenguyTLP-CD: launcher ?04:46
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TLP-CDi cant get anywhere in xfce without it...04:46
armenbomeil - what version of ubuntu are you running?04:46
XenguyTLP-CD: right-click etc.04:46
XenguyTLP-CD: ahh04:46
omeilI loaded the extra repositories which let me install the Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu 6.1004:46
TLP-CD6.1004:46
xtknightomeil: hmm those may be conflicting04:46
JrabbitAndrewB: No luck04:46
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XenguyTLP-CD: latest version of xfce apparently has desktop icons, but older versions probably don't04:46
xtknightomeil: wait, extra official ubuntu repos or third party?04:47
burepe_xtknight: what method did you use to install flash. I followed the restricted formats directions but it did not work. THe other way is to do it though the browser which caused flock to not work for me before.04:47
XenguyXenguy: don't know if it's packaged in Ubu yet04:47
armenbwhat does depmod -a do?04:47
Xenguyheh04:47
omeilofficial04:47
xtknightburepe_: i downloaded flash off adobe's site and manually installed it04:47
TLP-CD....meh gonna try updating then...if that doesnt solve the problem ill be back04:47
omeilerr im not sure lol :D04:47
armenbthe -a flag isn't described in the depmod man page04:47
armenb(betatux? :)04:47
omeilone sec lemme check04:47
TLP-CD...btw i have no home shortcut whatsoever on gnome, kde, or xfce >.<04:47
xtknightomeil: dont know, im not sure whats up with that 'wine' thing.  maybe you have third party repos in sources.list04:47
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betatuxarmenb, man depmod04:48
omeilxtknight04:48
omeilwhat if i try to install wine with source?04:48
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betatux!depmod | armenb04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about depmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
xtknightomeil: good idea if you're up for it04:48
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omeilalready have the ar file :)04:48
omeiltar04:48
xtknightomeil: ar? oh i was about to say, they're using some pretty old fashioned stuff04:48
estupendoceroI'm having some trouble installing new fonts. I tried dragging them into the fonts:/// directory, but nothing seems to happen (sorry I'm such a n00b)04:48
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TLP-CDeverything is up to date04:49
omeili just don't know what to type in the terminal04:49
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JrabbitI get an error screen after upgrading to edgy04:49
xtknightomeil: well therers a howto isnt there04:49
geeksaucearrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7306/04:49
TLP-CDand i dont have any icons...04:49
JrabbitThe Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.04:49
omeillemme see04:49
xtknightomeil: howtocompilewine or some wiki on their site, winehq maybe04:49
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Looks a lot better! sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload04:49
omeilhmm maybe there is something in the archive04:49
threeonefour_does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session04:49
armenbbetatux - man my comment04:49
arrenlexgeeksauce: And then test her out.04:49
xtknightomeil: you extract a .tar with "tar xf  filename".  a .tar.gz requires tar xzvf and a .tar.bz2 requires tar xjvf04:49
betatuxarmenb, type : depmod --help , and you'll see a '-a'04:49
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arrenlexxtknight: Technically, tar will recongnise the archive type and correctly extract both gzipped and bzipped tarballs with just tar xf04:50
Hattyxtknight: Cant run from livecd.04:50
xtknightarrenlex: really? cool04:50
XenguyTLP-CD: that's weird you don't have icons in *any* environment04:50
Hattyxtknight: /dev/hda3: clean, 203176/21757952 files, 4532531/43495987 blocks04:50
arrenlexxtknight: Yeah, try it04:50
xtknightHatty: hm so did you fsck04:50
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XenguyTLP-CD: something is surely wrong04:50
xtknightHatty: good grief, i have no idea.  ##linux is that way ;) -->04:50
Hattyheh04:50
estupendoceroI tried to install some new fonts by dragging them into "fonts:///", but nothing seems to happen. Am I missing something?04:50
Hattythanks for the help04:50
TLP-CDanybody have any idea how to create a shortcut to home on the desktop....its not in the right click menu04:51
xtknighti tried04:51
XenguyTLP-CD: what have you been changing recently?  :-)04:51
TLP-CD...04:51
TLP-CDnothing04:51
xtknightHatty: ill spy on you in ##linux just to see what the problem was04:51
XenguyXenguy: version?04:51
betatuxTLP-CD, create a link in the /home/username/Desktop04:51
TLP-CD6.1004:51
eternalswdwhere do core dumps usually get stored?04:51
armenbooh, i'm getting a string of modules.dep not found errors apparently.04:51
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armenbnot that it can't find the module04:52
JrabbitMy nautilus doesn't work04:52
JrabbitI have no GNOME settings04:52
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xtknighteternalswd: umm..like after a crash?04:52
JrabbitHELP04:52
TLP-CDthats just the problem... i cant create a link!04:52
gradin_hrm...04:52
TLP-CDugh!04:52
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xtknighteternalswd: are you sure your linux is even setup to take core dumps?04:52
impedimenttest04:52
xtknighti'm not sure it's enabled by default04:52
rapidTLP-CD, man ln04:52
armenbmodprobe: FATAL Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/modules.dep: No such file or directory04:52
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estupendoceroSo, any advice on how to install fonts? I know it's minor, but it's bugging me04:53
gradinhow to you extract a .tgz file04:53
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geeksaucearrenlex, yeah looks like the only thing it didn't like was that dhcp.conf file, but you said that doesn't cause any problems04:53
omeili can't even install Xchat lol says the same thing :)04:53
rapidgradin, tar zxpvf file.tgz04:53
geeksaucearrenlex, testing, hold on04:53
arrenlexgeeksauce: Does it work?04:53
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arrenlexgradin: tar xf file.tgz04:53
Kaline_estupendocero: Dump them in `/.donts?04:53
omeilcould the nvidia drivers be making ubuntu think that im running a windows platform?04:53
rapidhahaha!04:53
Kaline_Err, .fonts.04:53
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heathenhah, got it set up04:53
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TLP-CDah...thanks rapid....*blames the cat for not checking man*04:54
Kaline_Donts are another thing all-together. X)04:54
estupendocerohaha04:54
geeksaucearrenlex, >_< now the workgroup isn't even showing up04:54
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rapidTLP-CD, np :)04:54
premcould any 1 help me?? cd/dvd creator crashed at start up..can't access file browser04:54
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omeilxtknight04:54
threeonefour_does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session04:54
estupendoceroKaline_, is that what "fonts:///" points to?04:54
premcould any 1 help me?? cd/dvd creator crashed at start up..can't access file browser04:54
omeilxtknight i extracted the wine package04:54
MadpilotIs it possible to deactivate Firefox's password manager thing entirely? I want a "Never, for any site" button on it...04:54
gradinxtknight: for whatever reason the error occured fcks was getting that i/o error on every single block of the hd...04:54
omeilno how do i make file :)04:54
Kannaidaso... I'm looking to "break into" the linux world (this is my first time on IRC even).  Kinda tired of being locked into M$ developer role... is Ubuntu a good place to start?04:55
xtknightomeil: i dont really know the steps off the top of my head, there's a wiki for compiling on the wine page04:55
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JrabbitMy Ubuntu box (upgrading from dapper ot edgy) errored out when loading nautilus and spat out : " The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.04:55
JrabbitYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now."04:55
omeiloh04:55
MadpilotKannaida: we're biased, of course it is04:55
xtknightgradin: hhmmm04:55
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xtknightgradin: so fsck is done?  does it work>?04:55
AndrewBnn all.04:55
arrenlexgeeksauce: This just gets worse and worse, doesn't it.04:55
KannaidaI know you're biased... I'm hoping for a bit of honesty and some help04:55
gradinxtknight: doesn't matter i've already blown away the partition04:55
estupendocerooooh wait, I figured it out04:55
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estupendoceroKaline_, thanks!04:55
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premxtknight: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41146004:55
KannaidaI think Ubuntu is the right choice for me, just not sure if it's the right starting choice04:55
l2shi04:56
gradinxtknight: no, it requried an answer to every single block that was failing...04:56
geeksaucearrenlex, what happened to the read-only: yes and writeable: no fields?04:56
arrenlexKannaida: Ubuntu is a really good place for newbies to start because you can't really hurt yourself with gnome, and because the community is so helpful.04:56
Kannaidasomething easy to carry over to from a strictly M$ background04:56
HattyKannaida: Ubuntu is a good starting choice. its very simple, and easy to configure04:56
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gradinso i canceled it and am nuking the partition04:56
n3rrdxtknight:  reburnt the install disc at 16x and got through the test without any checksum errors... just for the record.04:56
Kannaidaawesome04:56
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MadpilotKannaida: Ubuntu is designed to be very friendly for new users, but usable for anyone, even experts04:56
arrenlexgeeksauce: I went back to what works for me, since I added those extra lines when the previous version didn't work. Sure, let's add them...04:56
gradinxtknight: it was just a basic install so its not like i'm loosing anything but the time it took to install...04:56
long_duck_donghello all04:56
threeonefour_does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session04:56
Logikos^hello, i just instaled ubunto ... i'm fairly new to linux ... now that i have it instaled i cant seem to do much of anything, i cant even see how to bring up a concel window ?04:56
premi need a help http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41146004:56
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Madpilotthreeonefour_: no04:57
betatuxProblem here, OpenOffice Word Processor crashes when I try to digitally sign the document. Anyone else seeing this ?04:57
xtknightprem: well that's a bug report.  none of us can hel pthere04:57
HattyLogikos^: applications -> accessories -> terminal04:57
l2sWHen you install svn with apt-get for edgy, does apt-get install subversion install 1.4 or 1.304:57
Logikos^Hatty: thanks04:57
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xtknightprem: i dont read greek (er i mean gdb backtraces) :P.  youll prolly get mail from gnome devs04:57
omeilxtknight04:57
Madpilot!info subversion04:57
xtknightgradin: you can force it to not ask you for each block04:57
ubotusubversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB04:57
premxtknight:my cd/dvd creator crashed!!04:57
xtknightgradin: ah ok04:57
omeili did the ./configure then make depend didn't work04:57
xtknightprem: that's just the name for nautilus i think04:58
arrenlexgeeksauce: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/369932 -O/etc/samba/smb.conf04:58
Madpilotl2s: looks like 1.3.x04:58
threeonefour_madpilot, are you certian that i cannot boot into a live session using the server install disk04:58
arrenlexgeeksauce: testparm04:58
l2show can you tell madpilot04:58
omeilthen i tried make and it said checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc104:58
omeilchecking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc104:58
omeilchecking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes04:58
omeilchecking for gcc... gcc04:58
omeilchecking for C compiler default output file name...04:58
omeilconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables04:58
omeilSee `config.log' for more details.04:58
armenbdoes fiesty in ubuntu use initramfs by default?04:58
armenbbecause i dont think dapper does.04:58
TLP-CD...so if i wanted to create a link to my home folder, i'd enter= ln Home LINK_NAME04:58
long_duck_dongI am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?04:58
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arrenlex!paste | omeil04:58
ubotuomeil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:58
xtknightomeil: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:59
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arrenlex~bs | omeil04:59
iridaomeil: Compiling from source? You'll need to install the build-essential package.04:59
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premxknight:any way out04:59
armenbxtknight - which version of ubuntu are you running?04:59
betatuxTLP-CD, one could type : ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop/home.lnk04:59
jake_need help with sapphire radeon x155004:59
Kannaidato combat the bias... I'm looking to learn to develop Java (time to learn a new language), I like to game, and I probably need interop with M$ office.  I know open office helps the last, but what about the first two?04:59
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skirkwhy I cant delete files in my USBDISK???04:59
xtknightarmenb: ubuntu 6.1004:59
arrenlexKannaida: Java is cross-platform. No problems with that.04:59
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Kannaidaright, but U.S. gov't is (surprisingly to me) going OSS and so, linux seems good05:00
omeilk its downloading thx :)05:00
arrenlexKannaida: Gaming is a huge problem. There's a couple simple games for Linux available. Wine will also run a few windows games. But for the most part you're better off dual-booting or having a gaming box.05:00
skirkwhy I cant delete files in my USBDISK??? It say I have no permission.....05:00
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Madpilotl2s: because I asked the bot. try "/msg ubotu info subversion"05:00
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omeilarrenlex or he could use Cedega05:00
Kannaidaarrenlex: thanx.  well, I like to game... but I guess it's not really my top priority05:00
Logikos^after a new instal of ubunto, what is the root password ... it only had me setup a userpass ?05:00
betatuxskirk, have you tried as root ?05:00
kelsinKannaida: I run WoW, Warcraft II and Starcraft in wine 9.30 all perfectly fine :)05:00
long_duck_donghello?????05:01
threeonefour_madpilot, are you certian that i cannot boot into a live session using the server install disk05:01
omeilBut you have to pay for cedega05:01
MadpilotLogikos^: there is no root pw05:01
kelsinIII* not II05:01
arrenlexomeil: That's true. But cedega costs money and is still not guaranteed to work.05:01
Logikos^then how do i become root05:01
kelsinall in blanket wine, not cedega05:01
Madpilotubotu: sudo | Logikos^05:01
ubotuLogikos^: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:01
premxtknight:any ideas?05:01
arrenlexomeil: In essence he'd be paying for half the functionality he already has for free.05:01
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geeksaucearrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7309/05:01
l2snifty05:01
omeiltrue05:01
Ironman273Anyone have any experience installing SynCE?05:01
skirkbetatux, yes05:01
omeilcedega would be a good project if it was free :D05:01
Madpilotl2s: the bot is nifty - I often feel it's the smartest thing in this channel ;)05:02
arrenlexgeeksauce: Huh? It didn't change from last time.05:02
betatuxskirk, what does 'mount' show ?05:02
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KannaidaI think what I'm really looking for is professional development.  Getting into Java, and getting into another OS.  I know Windows (of course), and I don't really have an interest in MacOS, and linux is (I think) a much better choice than Unix05:02
kelsinomeil: any opengl runs perfect for me without cedega, and since mainly I just use blizzard games, it's great05:02
yurimxpxmanhey I need help really fast with my Ubuntu server. I need to know how to give my FTP access to edit /var/www05:02
jake_hello, i upgraded from on-board ati video to a sapphire x1550 and now ubunut/kubuntu won't boot after install05:02
arrenlexKannaida: Unix? Is that that expensive thing they had in the '80s?05:02
skirkbetatux, mount show "usbdisk"....05:02
omeilwhats any opengl? is that a program05:02
geeksaucearrenlex, i dunno but i tested it and it works finally!05:02
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arrenlexgeeksauce: What? xD05:02
arrenlexgeeksauce: But... it didn't change.05:02
betatuxIronhand, I had SynCE running with a Qtek s100 with WinMobile 2003 , but now I have a Qteks200 with WinMobile 2005 and can't get it to work yet.05:02
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MadpilotKannaida: set up a dual boot, XP & Ubuntu, and go for it.05:03
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Kannaidaarrenlex: yep, and at my college... so much not fun to go from that to a job that says "oh, you know MFC, right?"05:03
omeilor do u mean any games that use opengl?05:03
tannerldwhat is the terminal command to get the title of a window/program?05:03
yurimxpxmando any of you know how to use ubuntu server?05:03
kelsinomeil: I meant any opengl game05:03
betatuxskirk, what filesystem is the usbdisk using ?05:03
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kelsinomeil: as opposed to a 3d game that uses directx05:03
omeilthrough ubuntu?05:03
watson540hey i need a little herlp, didnt there used to be an http ubuntu repo? i need to install some junk to get my wireless working so i want to download the debs i need beforehand and transfer them via memory stick..i used to be able to do this but i cant seem to find the http repo anymore05:03
geeksaucearrenlex, for some reason testparm isn't showing the added variables, but i looked and they are there05:03
skirkbetatux, I dont know....How I can see this?05:03
kamuianyone familiar with what I would need to get my new tablet pc's screen rotation button to be recognized in edgy?  I've already written the rotate / counter rotate scripts for both the wacom and screen, I just need to map them to the button, but it doesn't seem to respond to anything05:04
arrenlextannerld: xprop WM_NAME05:04
arrenlextannerld: And click on it.05:04
yurimxpxmansomeone please help me with my ubuntu server. I need to know how to give the FTP users access /var/www05:04
kelsinomeil: yes, with wine > 9.28 I've played WoW, Warcraft III, and Starcraft perfectly just by installing and running on debian, ubuntu, and fedora05:04
Kannaidabut as I said, it seems like the U.S. gov't is leaning towards linux (for some fairly obvious reasons) so I thought I could increase my security by being a bit more flexible ;)05:04
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arrenlexgeeksauce: *shrug* Alrighty. Well, I'm glad it actually works!05:04
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arrenlexgeeksauce: Enjoy xD Sorry for making you go through all that.05:04
omeilwine is being gay at the moment05:04
watson540is there a http repo anymore/.05:04
omeilseems to be conflicting with my nvidia card.05:04
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long_duck_dong I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop....... need help05:04
omeilso thats why i have to try to install with by compiling the sourcfe05:05
omeilsource*05:05
yurimxpxmansomeone please help me.. I need to get this done very fast. I need to know how to give my FTP users access to /var/www05:05
Kannaidaas far as software dev goes... is there a big difference between linux distro's if I'm looking to write fairly generic apps?05:05
skirkbetatux, I dont know....How I can see this?05:05
betatuxskirk, if it's a ntfs filesystem you need to read this : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access05:05
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Kannaidadifferences in UI coding, etc05:05
Xenguyyurimxpxman: you need chmod and chown - a good file manager might help, but command-line can do it05:05
MadpilotKannaida: not really, a lot of the underlying stuff is similar/identical across distros.05:05
skirkok betatux05:05
skirkthank05:05
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MadpilotKannaida: the differences for UI stuff will be Gnome vs KDE vs XFCE etc05:06
arrenlexKannaida: No. The UI is handled by toolkit libraries: the main ones are gtk and qt, and those are available on all modern distros and even on windows.05:06
Xenguyyurimxpxman: as root, chmod 755 <all directories>05:06
geeksaucearrenlex, don't apologize... i'm just glad it works.  thanks for spending all that time helping me.  nothing like spending a friday night helping a stranger, :P  i'm definitely saving that file now in case i need to reformat05:06
betatuxskirk, when you type mount , there's 'type ext3' for example and (rw) for read write05:06
arrenlexgeeksauce: Stop reminding me I don't have a life. :)05:06
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Xenguyyurimxpxman: as root, chmod 644 <all files>05:06
KannaidaMadpilot: thanx... I have so much aprehension... not that I don't think I *can* do it, but more that.. well... it gets intimidating05:06
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Kannaidathanks to arrenlex too05:06
Xenguyyurimxpxman: assume for now that 'ownership'/'chown' stuff is OK05:06
armenbare there other ubuntu channels i can trol for help in?05:06
MadpilotKannaida: ya, been there, done that, got over it. Best of luck, have fun. :)05:06
yurimxpxmanXenguy: do you mean <all files> literally as a command?05:07
TLP-CDok, i sorted out the short cut problem05:07
KannaidaMadpilot: haha, thanx05:07
Xenguyyurimxpxman: no05:07
kamuiwhats the command to test key inputs that the xorg server is recieving?  Im ultimately trying to map my tablet pc's rotation button to a rotate script I wrote05:07
armenbthis stuff is frustrating me.05:07
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geeksaucearrenlex, hey man, neither do i.  i'm in my room tinkering with linux too :P05:07
Ironman273Can someone help me install some software that needs to be compiled?05:07
arrenlexKannaida: Where you get into problems is the different libraries. Often the versions of the libraries are different between distros and they change with time since there's nothing like in windows where they have to keep exact compatibilty or corporate vendors will yell at them.05:07
Xenguyyurimxpxman: you substitute proper names05:07
l2sIs 6.10 going to stop being supported?05:07
KannaidaI'm thinking about an OS change, and I don't recall having been this nervous the first time I turned on a computer... hehe05:07
SanityInAnarchyiptables... why does DNAT no longer work?05:07
long_duck_dong I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?05:07
long_duck_dong I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?05:07
long_duck_dong I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?05:07
long_duck_dong I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?05:07
arrenlex!ops05:07
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso05:07
Madpilotl2s: not for a long while yet05:07
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xtknightlong_duck_dong: 'cause you're spamming05:07
omeilumm does ubuntu have any end taking softare similair to windows endtask?05:07
Xenguyyurimxpxman: if you need sub-directories done too, use the '-R' argument to either chmod or chown05:07
long_duck_dongi am not spamming05:07
omeiltasking05:07
arrenlexKannaida: That's why a lot of software on Linux is either distributed from source or downloaded directly from the distro repositories.05:07
Xenguyyurimxpxman: '-R' stands for 'recursive'05:08
TLP-CDstop spamming....if you worry about "support", use 6.06 LTS05:08
SanityInAnarchyomeil:  killall05:08
tonyyarussolong_duck_dong: Pasting the same line four times is definitely spamming.05:08
SanityInAnarchyomeil:  also xkill and others05:08
watson540Is there no http ubuntu repo anymore?? I used to be able to download the debs i needed then transfer them to a sandbox via memory stick05:08
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gnomefreak!repeat | long_duck_dong05:08
ubotulong_duck_dong: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:08
Madpilotomeil: for RAM management & such? Let Ubuntu deal with your RAM, Linux is far better at RAM management than XP05:08
omeilthat dosen't make any sence to me :)05:08
Kannaidaarrenlex: so I would be better off knowing which distro(s) I could be developing for?05:08
long_duck_dongI had typed in my question 3 0r 4 times with no response05:08
Kaline_Not sure, how long do they support non-LTS releases?05:08
arrenlexKannaida: So you would be better off writing open source. :)05:08
Ironman273Can someone help with an installation?05:08
nalioth!patience | long_duck_dong05:08
ubotulong_duck_dong: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:08
yurimxpxmanXenguy: now how do I access those?05:08
MadpilotKaline_: 18 months05:08
Kannaidahahaha05:08
Xenguyyurimxpxman: I'm assuming this is a permissions issue BTW05:08
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arrenlexKannaida: What are you laughing at?05:09
TLP-CD...anybody have any luck in trying to get their sd card slot to work?05:09
armenbgreat.05:09
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omeillong duck dong instead of saying you have a problem. why not just state your problem?05:09
yurimxpxmanXenguy: yes, it is. What user do I login to the FTP as to access /var/www?05:09
Xenguyyurimxpxman: access? what do you mean?  Get a terminal window up05:09
yurimxpxmanok05:09
armenbi just overwrote my initrd image.05:09
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Kannaidaarrenlex: how far this all is from what I *thought* I knew...05:09
geeksaucearrenlex, before i forget, what file do i need to add any mount instructions to in order to mount a volume on startup?05:09
XenguyTurgon: use 'sudo' before all those commands05:09
Ironman273What is "svn checkout"?05:09
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long_duck_dongi will state the problem, brb05:09
Xenguyyurimxpxman: use 'sudo' before all those commands05:09
armenbironman - it's what you do to check code out of a subversion repository05:09
Kannaidayou'd think with 6 years in IT I wouldn't feel so... ignorant.  Oh well, time to learn I guess05:09
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arrenlexgeeksauce: A samba volume?05:09
TLP-CD...again, has anybody had any luck getting their sd card slot to work?05:10
Xenguyyurimxpxman: that will give you 'root' privileges05:10
arrenlexgeeksauce: Euh... I don't do that, so I can't help you there, sorry. Google for "fstab samba" or ask around.05:10
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I'm logged in as root (text mode) and I'm trying to log into my server from a Windows computer and access /var/www to edit my website, but vsftpd won't let me login as root05:10
betatuxkamui you could make a program that catches keystrokes and mouse events using the Xlib library05:10
Ironman273armenb: and how would I use that?05:10
MadpilotKannaida: six years in Windows IT, though, right? Not the same animal, except for the basic hardware.05:10
Kaline_Anyone 'ere using irssi?05:10
armenbironman - what are you trying to do?05:10
Ironman273armenb: Build SynCE05:11
geeksaucearrenlex, nah it's unrelated.  it's ntfs.  i have to mount it every time with "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/servitup -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222"05:11
arrenlexgeeksauce: Oh! I can do that.05:11
Xenguyyurimxpxman: If you want to modify remote configurations, then you need to 'ssh' into the remote box I think05:11
omeilI guess it its quite hard for wine to run alot of programs considering linux dosen't have every dll library that windows uses for external programs.05:11
arrenlexgeeksauce: Here's one line of mine from /etc/fstab. It should help you.05:11
tannerldis it possible to minimize a window when it becomes active using shell?05:11
arrenlex/dev/sda10      /win/E          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       005:11
TLP-CDcrossover office anyone?05:11
KannaidaMadpilot: I know, but 6 years with Windows and I'm thinking "I can do that" and then I think to try something new... it's tough getting used to being at the bottom again (not that I was on the top, but I wasn't on the bottom either)05:11
kamuibetatux: I just used acpi_listen AND xev, and when I press the tablet pc's rotation button, NO events.  so I don't think ill ever get em working05:11
Xenguyyurimxpxman: do you have an ssh server running on the remote box?05:11
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I'm at the server terminal right now05:11
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Xenguyyurimxpxman: if so, then get a 'putty' ssh client on the local box and use that to connect via ssh to the remote box05:12
omeilso is ubuntu the most advanced distro?05:12
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I don't know what you mean05:12
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omeilbecause i was always tempted by Suse05:12
arrenlexKannaida: It was really tough when I switched to Linux and I had no idea how to even give a file path. I had no idea how the filesystem syntax worked. I had to learn to use the command line even though I'd never even seen it before!05:12
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Dr_willisomeil,  wine is impressive that it works at all.05:12
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Xenguyyurimxpxman: OK, I thought you were on a windows box for some reason05:12
arrenlexKannaida: But I figured it out and I'd never go back now :)05:12
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MadpilotKannaida: Windows "power users" often have a harder time getting used to Ubuntu/Linux/etc than ppl who just want "browsing & email" to work...05:12
darehanlHi, my laptop is refusing to boot flight 4: I/O error. Error reading boot CD.05:12
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I'm on a Windows laptop at the moment, but also in front of my Linux terminal05:12
Dr_willisomeil,  last review i saw of suse said suse was 'ok' but ubuntu gives it a run for its money.05:12
TheLancehey guys quick question is there a way to install ubuntu on the HD without a reformat of the harddrive?05:12
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I'm trying to access /var/www via FTP from the Windows laptop05:13
Kannaidaarrenlex: That's actually really comforting. I know I'll still need a Windows box for some of my work, but it's really quite intimidating.05:13
arrenlexTheLance: The default installer does not reformat.05:13
TheLancether eis a bunch of stuff in the homefolder i want backed up05:13
Madpilotdarehanl: try #ubuntu+1 for Feisty05:13
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Xenguyyurimxpxman: I may be too tired to think straight; I'm finding communication hard right now :-)05:13
arrenlexKannaida: Just keep trying and ask over here if you need help :) you'll get it in no time.05:13
darehanlMadpilot: Okay, thanks05:13
TheLancewill it delete all my stuff in hte home folder?05:13
geeksaucearrenlex, so i just need to add the line "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/servitup -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222" to fstab?05:13
TheLancei have really important data on it05:13
Kannaidaarrenlex: thanks05:13
arrenlexgeeksauce: Nope.05:13
Xenguyyurimxpxman: I'll review the thread and contribute what I can05:13
TheLancethat i need ot get from05:13
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TheLancei got a external HD enclosure05:13
yurimxpxmanXenguy: what thread? I haven't started one yet lol05:13
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arrenlexgeeksauce: I guess you missed it since I didn't put your name on it05:14
arrenlexgeeksauce: Here's one line of mine from /etc/fstab. It should help you.05:14
TheLancebut windows won't recognize the HD05:14
KannaidaMadpilot: I don't know how "Power" of a windows user I am... but I *like* to think I'm fairly good at picking up new concepts... I guess I'm going to find out pretty soon...05:14
arrenlexgeeksauce: /dev/sda10      /win/E          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       005:14
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GaiaX11!enter| TheLance05:14
ubotuTheLance: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:14
yurimxpxmancould anyone else please help me? I'm trying to give my FTP users access to /var/www05:14
geeksaucearrenlex, oh ok.  no no "mount" command is needed?05:14
xtknighthow do you see a list of packages available from a certain repository?  For example how do i check if janvitus carries wine, for example?  (via debian pkg system, besides going to jan's website)05:14
arrenlexgeeksauce: Nope, fstab is the special configuration file for systems that are mounted at boot. It's not a shell script.05:15
Dr_willisgeeksauce,  ya may want to read up on the differances between mounting somthing from the terminal with the 'mount' command and a entry in the fstab file. :)05:15
tannerldis it possible to minimize a window when it becomes active using shell?05:15
Madpilotxtknight: best place for wine is probably wine's own repo - try #winehq05:15
TheLancedoes reinstalling ubuntu delete all the data in my home folder? I dont want that to happen because i have really important DATA on it05:15
Xenguyyurimxpxman: everything you say is a thread :-) Anyhow, you're on a d0ze box and trying to connect up with a linux server, or what?05:15
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xtknightMadpilot: yeah  i know that, wine was really just an example05:15
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Dr_willisgeeksauce,  how linux mounts drives is proberly oone of the top 10 'things' to learn about :)  it pays to know it very well05:15
TheLanceI tried to get an external enclosure but windows won't detect the HD so I cant back anything up on it05:15
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GaiaX11TheLance: No05:16
MadpilotTheLance: is your /home a separate partition?05:16
arrenlexgeeksauce: /dev/hdb1      /media/servitup          ntfs    ro,users,umask=0222           0       005:16
TheLanceno its not05:16
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arrenlexgeeksauce: (in case couldn't didn't translate it)05:16
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llama32i broke automount. how do i fix it?05:16
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Ironman273betatux: you don't see my replies?05:16
Madpilotxtknight: if you've got the full set of official Ubuntu repos enabled, you should be good to go, and not care where things come from. 3rd party repos can be trouble...05:17
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I'm on a Windows Vista laptop, trying to connect to my Linux server. The Linux server is sitting next to me (text mode). I have vsFTPd and LAMP working, but I need to give my FTP users full RW access to /var/www so we can edit the website remotely via FTP05:17
TheLanceso reinstalling ubuntu will not delete my home folder?05:17
betatuxIronman273, no i'm not getting them , are you IDENTIFIED ? you can only send priv msg's when you're registered and identified05:17
MadpilotTheLance: that depends on your setup. it might.05:17
armenbironman - where does it say you build from subversion?05:17
xtknightMadpilot: i do care because one repo may carry a newer version.  also when i get weird err msgs like it's not available for my arch or it's a pseudo package or something, i would like to know to be able to debug...not very often but it comes in handy05:17
Xenguyyurimxpxman: so apply the 'chmod' 'chown' advice to the server, yes?05:17
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TheLancewhat would i hav eto do to not get it to be deleted05:17
Ironman273betatux:  Hmm, guess not.  I'm new to IRC05:18
Jrabbit#BDSM-Bijou05:18
kevogodIf your home folder is not aon a separate partition, there is a great chance you will lose it when you reinstall.05:18
Jrabbitwhoops05:18
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geeksaucearrenlex, thanks :)  just so i know the why and not just the how, what is the umask variable and what are those 0's for at the end, and do the extra spaces matter?05:18
Xenguyyurimxpxman: what's the next step for you?05:18
TheLanceis it possible to put the home folder in a swap partition for a while?05:18
Ironman273armenb: I'm trying to follow these instructions: http://www.synce.org/index.php/Building_SynCE_with_Windows_Mobile_2005_support_from_Subversion05:18
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I need to change my user's home folder to /var/www05:18
pirothezerowheres the ubuntudev irc?05:18
Madpilotxtknight: the only time you're likely to get error msgs like that is if you're stirring in 3rd party or non-ubuntu repos - using Debian repos is a classic way to break your Ubuntu, for example05:18
omeilis compiling from source dangerous?05:18
Xenguyyurimxpxman: don't do that05:18
arrenlexgeeksauce: The spaces don't matter, they're just tabs so the fstab is divided into columns and is easy to read.05:18
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yurimxpxmanXenguy: Then how can I access that folder from my FTP client?05:19
TLP-CDwhat version of fluxbox should i install and which way is the easiest to do it?05:19
arrenlexgeeksauce: As for the umask, do you know about file permissions?05:19
Xenguyyurimxpxman: that is just a bad idea(TM)05:19
tannerldis it possible to minimize a window when it becomes active using shell?05:19
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GaiaX11TheLance: Why don't you make a home folder backupe then?05:19
GaiaX11TheLance: Why don't you make a home folder backup then?05:19
Xenguyyurimxpxman: you directly change permissions on /var/www05:19
TheLancewell the problem is05:19
Xenguyyurimxpxman: with 'chmod' and 'chown'05:19
TheLanceubuntu wont even boot up for me anymore05:19
GaiaX11!enter| TheLance05:19
ubotuTheLance: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:19
omeilif i type sudo apt-get install xchat will that try to install xchat?05:19
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Dr_willisomeil,  yes.. try it and see05:20
Madpilotomeil: yes05:20
Xenguyyurimxpxman: you need to use 'sudo' (i.e. be 'root')05:20
xtknightMadpilot:  ok, i assume you don't know ;)  honestly i just want to know for the sake of knowing.05:20
TheLancethe only way to fix my problem is a reinstall and I don't have a way to back it up05:20
omeiloh ok :) im kinda new to this.05:20
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TLP-CDis there a difference between putting just "su" or "sudo"?05:20
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I did that, but I don't know how to access that folder from my FTP now05:20
dr1v3rok guys how far ahead of debian is ubuntu?05:20
shatratTLP-CD, su is for switch user05:20
omeiloh and does compliling software from source dangerous in anyway?05:20
arrenlexdr1v3r: In what way?05:20
GaiaX11TheLance: Why not?05:20
geeksaucearrenlex, i don't have the whole thing memorized, but i get the jist of it.  what about the extra zero's all spaced out at the end of the line?05:20
shatratTLP-CD, sudo is to do something as super user05:21
Dr_willisTheLance,  boot live cd, manyally mount th eexternal usb drive.. copy stuff over.05:21
Xenguyyurimxpxman: you don't use FTP right now...05:21
TLP-CDah05:21
dr1v3ras in package releases, are they quicker than them at getting stable ones?05:21
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dr1v3r*making them stable05:21
yurimxpxmanXenguy: What do I do then? I want to access my www folder via FTP05:21
TheLanceyeah but the external HD won't let me write to it in ubuntu05:21
shatratTLP-CD, su is kind of frowned on in ubuntu, its better to use sudo -i as interactive sudo, than to log in as root05:21
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I ran chmod and chown05:21
Xenguyyurimxpxman:  you log into the server, get a command-line, get root, then do your changed permissions -- does that make sense?05:21
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arrenlexgeeksauce: look at the top line of your fstab: those zeros correspond to the <dump>  <pass> columns.05:21
bean-ohis there an easy way to reset the gnome interface to defaults without creating a new user?05:21
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yurimxpxmanXenguy: I've done that, but I don't know how to access it from the FTP client05:22
shatratbean-oh, rename your .gnome ffolder05:22
arrenlexgeeksauce: These are magical and mystical columns and I will explain to you what they do in just a moment.05:22
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notarrenlexWhat do the <dump> and <pass> columns do?05:22
GaiaX11TheLance: make a cdrom backup05:22
yurimxpxmanXenguy: that's why I thought I ought to change the home folder to /var/www05:22
seravitaehow can i see usb errors? on bootup one of my device errored out05:22
lordkeidenhow can I resize the partition that ubuntu is installed on. I booted with the 6.1 live cd and ran gparted. it would not allow me to shrink the second partition from the front. sda1 is my windows partition, and sda2 is for ubuntu. I need to give windows back a few gig i took from it when i did the install.05:22
Xenguyyurimxpxman: thanks for telling me you actually ran chmod/chown -- that is relevant troubleshooting information :-)05:22
yurimxpxmanXenguy: what's next?05:22
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geeksaucenotarrenlex, haha ok cool05:22
TLP-CDnow that's cleared up...how to i get my sd cardslot working?05:22
Xenguyyurimxpxman: I can hardly tell :p05:22
TheLancehow? The LivecD in in the drive and has no burning software05:22
armenbok. i found my problem.05:22
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bean-ohshatrat, .gnome? or .gconf?05:23
Xenguyyurimxpxman: so you've changed permissions?05:23
long_duck_dongI boot from the 6.10 cd, it gives me the login screen and when it tries to log in i get an error stating.. "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem"05:23
armenbmy problem is that i made a 200MB / once upon a time.05:23
TheLancei cant make a copy of anything gaiax1105:23
yurimxpxmanXenguy: yes. What's the terminal command to change my home folder?05:23
shatratbean-oh, i guess it is .gconf05:23
armenband i symlinked /lib/modules to /usr/lib/modules05:23
Xenguyyurimxpxman: is yes, then you need an FTP client to test connect to the FTP server, yes?05:23
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Dr_willis!terminal05:23
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:23
KannaidaAlright... so I effectively have one box right now (this one).  If I were to... oh, I don't know... blow it away and load Ubuntu... is that a bad idea?05:23
armenbwhich is bad bad bad05:23
bean-ohok, let me try. brb05:23
armenbbecause the modules are really not mounted when looking for them.05:23
bean-ohthanks05:23
GaiaX11TheLance: Why not?05:23
TheLancei think i might have to gettingt a second hd and backup everything that way05:23
Xenguyyurimxpxman: you do *not* change the /home folder (that's directory) OK?05:23
TheLancei'm in it right now05:23
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Xenguyyurimxpxman: this is about /var/www05:23
Kannaidado I need a "fall back" box that I can guarantee I can get online with to get help?05:23
arrenlexgeeksauce: Anyway, google can tell you what they do, I'm sure. I just know that sometimes those numbers are 1 and not 0, and that they don't change anything I can see.05:23
TheLanceno burning software available05:23
Shadow_milhow do I reconfigure xorg.conf?05:24
Shadow_milis there a tool for that?05:24
yurimxpxmanXenguy: I know.. I want to change my home folder to /var/www =P05:24
arrenlexShadow_mil: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:24
GaiaX11TheLance: borrow from someone.05:24
MadpilotKannaida: burn a LiveCD before you nuke your current box, make sure it works, you'll always have a working OS that way05:24
yurimxpxmanXenguy: That's the only way I can access that dir from my FTP client05:24
Xenguyyurimxpxman: that's it - enough05:24
arrenlexgeeksauce: anyway, permissions. Every file on the Linux filesystem has the following set of permissions05:24
KannaidaMadpilot: sounds good to me05:24
dr1v3rso guys roughly how long after a package is released would it be stable on ubuntu?05:24
TheLancegaiax11 well thats what i need to do05:24
Xenguyyurimxpxman: seek help elsewhere05:24
arrenlexgeeksauce: ?rwxrxxrxx05:24
Shadow_milarrenlex: thats05:24
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Shadow_milthanks05:24
omeilshadow what do u need to configure?05:24
arrenlexgeeksauce: ?rwxrwxrwx05:24
omeilin xorg.conf05:24
tannerldcan one get window information from the shell05:24
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MadpilotKannaida: or just set up a dualboot with whatever is on the box currently05:25
arrenlexgeeksauce: This is three blocks of "rwx" which correspond to read, write and execute.05:25
KannaidaMadpilot: LiveCD is maybe best option for now... it's like a trial, right?05:25
GaiaX11tannerld: Which info?05:25
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tannerldGaiaX11: like the title and state05:25
MadpilotKannaida: yes, but there's an option to install right from the LiveCD, which is very cool.05:25
arrenlexgeeksauce: the first block of rwx is what the owner of the file can do. The second block of rwx is what the group which owns the file can do. The third block of rwx is what everyone else can do.05:25
lordkeidenhow can I resize the partition that ubuntu is installed on. I booted with the 6.1 live cd and ran gparted. it would not allow me to shrink the second partition from the front. sda1 is my windows partition, and sda2 is for ubuntu. I need to give windows back a few gig i took from it when i did the install.05:26
arrenlexgeeksauce: The ? at the beginning denotes special setting for the file which aren't important and you shouldn't mess with, like the sticky bit.05:26
GaiaX11tannerld: What Title and state ?05:26
geeksaucearrenlex, ah i gotcha.05:26
Dr_willislordkeiden,  check the parted/gparted docs. that may be a limittion, and they may give some work arounds05:27
GaiaX11tannerld: be more specific.05:27
KannaidaMadpilot: cool, that may be the best way to go for now.05:27
tannerldGaiaX11: of a program; state like (active, minimized...)05:27
arrenlexgeeksauce: So, rw-rw-rw- means everyone can read and write to the file, but no one can execute it.05:27
omeilwhats the best irc client for ubuntu05:27
omeil?05:27
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long_duck_dongI boot from the 6.10 cd, it gives me the login screen and when it tries to log in i get an error stating.. "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem"05:27
xtknightomeil: xchat05:27
KannaidaMadpilot: this way I have a chance to learn something before I have to tell my wife what to do ;)05:27
omeildang lol05:27
arrenlexgeeksauce: rwxrw-r-- means that t