[12:01] <vrkhans> i need to keep some like backup storage which i can use both in linux and windows,
[12:01] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: ok many thanks :)
[12:01] <vrkhans> where i can put all my important documents and other stuff,
[12:01] <mwe> SamePaul: is the guide up to date?
[12:01] <mwe> SamePaul: maybe you need newer firmware
[12:02] <MFen> has anyone had problems printing on edgy?  i'm using the printer dialogs to add a new (generic postscript) printer using ip printing (http://foo:631/ as the address)
[12:02] <morrolan> vrkhans - best bet is a FAT32 partition then
[12:02] <MFen> when i print, nothing happens
[12:02] <MFen> job goes into the printer's queue and then stays there, forever
[12:02] <vrkhans> if in case i have to format the hard drive those partition will not be disturb , thats what my plan is
[12:02] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: many thanks, working great
[12:02] <SamePaul> mwe: I've taken latest from SF
[12:02] <MFen> has anyone else seen this behavior with ip printing?
[12:02] <vrkhans> but i dont know wether that is right or not
[12:02] <techie1> Can anybody comment? Will my ubuntu install disk automatically parition the NTFS ( I have windows ox on the computer already)?
[12:02] <morrolan> MFen - I can print fine, but then again I only usually print straight to PDF with a faked postscript printer
[12:02] <ernz> Ahhhh - I figured it. Permissions on my autostart folder were knackered. Awesome. Now I have  beryl on boot. Sweet
[12:02] <MFen> morrolan: i'm about to try pdf printing but i really want regular printing :)
[12:02] <mwe> SamePaul: both drivers and firmware?
[12:03] <mwe> SamePaul: the driver must match the firmware
[12:03] <SamePaul> mwe: ipw 1.2.1 ipw_fw_3.0
[12:03] <vrkhans> so what you guys think
[12:03] <morrolan> Does anyone know how to actually get Beryl and XGL to start as a seperate login session?  I have neither an ATI or Nvidia card (Intel i810 - works fine) so the stuff in Ubuntuguide doesn't really apply as it seems to be very specific
[12:03] <vrkhans> is that schema is fine
[12:03] <AlexFicelle> techie1: You're asking whether Ubuntu will shrink your NTFS partition to make room for the installation? Yes it will.
[12:04] <vrkhans> or any other suggestion
[12:04] <rlevitin> very novice question: I just switched from Fedora to Ubuntu... how do I modify the display settings (Resolution in System -> Preferences doesn't give correct options)
[12:04] <gop> what is envy
[12:04] <vrkhans> i am new to linux
[12:04] <SamePaul> mwe: So it match.
[12:04] <morrolan> MFen - PDF printing - don't do what I did and spend days trying to figure out why it didn't work - it saves the PDF's to a folder called PDF in your home...
[12:04] <mwe> SamePaul: I haven't used it for two years. the README should probably say what version you need
[12:04] <vrkhans> and i dont know much about file system
[12:04] <morrolan> Hi, I'm trying to install UFO: Alien Invasion, and I can't because I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1~20060817, and for some reason the ubuntu repo's have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1cvs+20060824?  Trouble is, I can't uninstall or replace it, because practically every GUI app relies on it.
[12:04] <jrattner> What does this mean: log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.
[12:04] <mwe> SamePaul: also make sure you put it in the right place
[12:04] <MFen> morrolan: heh, i *was* about to spend days figuring that out
[12:04] <vrkhans> and how that can be used
thanks , so I do not have to use system rescue or any other to do this manually? If so that is great! I will try it.
[12:04] <AlexFicelle> techie1: I've done it on several computers, without problems up to here.
[12:04] <vrkhans> so please guide me
[12:04] <mwe> SamePaul: not all distros store firmware the same place
[12:04] <herpez> i need to install ubuntu on acer aspire 1692 but it crashes o X server, so i cant install...
[12:05] <linxeh> mm this train crash doesnt look good
[12:05] <SamePaul> mwe: How I can know where is right place?
[12:05] <AlexFicelle> techie1: Not at all. The install program will propose to do this for you.
[12:05] <mwe> SamePaul: /lib/firmware I think
[12:05] <lucasvo> anyone can suggest a USB bluetooth adapter that will work well with my ubuntu?
let me go and try it and I will let you know latter. It should be fine. thanks again.
[12:05] <morrolan> lucasvo - practically any belkin USB adapter
[12:05] <vrkhans> and another thing i need to make a boot floopy for xbuntu
[12:05] <linxeh> lucasvo: I think all of mine, even the no-name ones, work
[12:05] <MFen> morrolan: any way to tell it to save somewhere else?
[12:05] <vrkhans> is there any boot floopies avaliable
[12:05] <linxeh> lucasvo: there are only a limited number of chipsets for bluetooth1 that are in common use
[12:05] <Timw> guys does anyone know how to work with video codecs and either mplayer or vlc
[12:05] <SamePaul> mwe: just copy there? No subdirs?
[12:06] <lucasvo> linxeh: is bluetooth 1 or 2 better?
[12:06] <morrolan> vrkhans - floopies ?  lol
[12:06] <rkyraccoon55> royel: you there man?
[12:06] <AlexFicelle> techie1: The choices are pretty clear during the install. It asks whether you want to shrink your Windows partition, or use the entire disk (= wipe Windows), or do things manually.
[12:06] <MRAB54> can someone tell me how i would go about changing my shell that is being used?
[12:06] <Timw> i want to play a streaming nsv file
[12:06] <vrkhans> ua
[12:06] <RobinLionheart> Bluetooth works a lot better for me in Linux than it does in Vista.
[12:06] <vrkhans> ya
[12:06] <rkyraccoon55> !ati
[12:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <linxeh> lucasvo: bluetooth2 is faster. if you have only bluetooth1 devices then it doesnt really matter
[12:06] <lucasvo> my retailer has the following: MSI Star Key 2.0 Bluetooth Adapter
[12:06] <Timw> i have installed everything from vlc to mplayer but nothing works
[12:06] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: most things work better in linux than vista :)
[12:06] <morrolan> MRAB54 - what do nyou want to change it to?
[12:06] <l337> woohoo i found my place :)
[12:06] <vrkhans> because at boot time for some reason i wont able to boot from the cd
[12:06] <rlevitin> ubotu: is that for me?
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is that for me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <MRAB54> well, its for logging into my schools machines and the default is c
[12:06] <MRAB54> but probably tcsh
[12:07] <MRAB54> to switch to
[12:07] <rlevitin> ubotu: monitor detection
[12:07] <lucasvo> linxeh: what do you think about that msi thing?
[12:07] <mwe> SamePaul: no subdirs. and go over README in the source for ipw2200
[12:07] <RobinLionheart> linxeh: Well, maybe not my Nvidia Geforce Go display adapter, but everything else
[12:07] <vrkhans> i can only boot
[12:07] <herpez> ubotu - but to install the driver, i need to have ubuntu installed :(
[12:07] <morrolan> !monitor detection | rlevitin
[12:07] <mwe> SamePaul: your guide is about two years old
[12:07] <Timw> did anyone get nsv files to play on their ubuntu
[12:07] <SamePaul> mwe: I did. It says "refer to instruction of your distro'
[12:07] <vrkhans> any suggestion
[12:07] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: really? I've had no problems on the dell  laptop I tried on - can't remember which go it was though (about a year old)
[12:07] <ConstyXI1> is there a panel app that will tell you how much mail you have?
[12:07] <mwe> huh
[12:07] <morrolan> MRAB54 - have you tried typing "tsch" at the bash shell?
[12:07] <RobinLionheart> linxeh: I tried to set up Beryl but Ubuntu Edgy's got an old version of the adapter that messes things up
[12:08] <mwe> SamePaul: not the README in the source code I just downloaded
[12:08] <MRAB54> yes, echo $SHELL still says /bin/csh
[12:08] <morrolan> MRAB54 - sorry, tcsh
[12:08] <Jowi> hello everyone
[12:08] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: so your card isnt fully supported in the edgy driver?
[12:08] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone here help me compile the latest alsa drivers...? My left audio is crackly, and crimsun said it may help if I get the latest from alsa-project, but I haven't been able to catch him for a while.
[12:08] <mwe> SamePaul: it has a lot of instructions
[12:08] <morrolan> MRAB54 - the default is bash, so it has been changed
[12:08] <l337> trying to install pen test tool anyone up 4 helping?
[12:08] <sgtmattbaker> how do you output as anything other than avi or ogm using Avidemux
[12:08] <RobinLionheart> And if I try to use the new one gdm will crash trying to start X
[12:09] <iulian_> hi
[12:09] <hflappy> l337: which one?
[12:09] <morrolan> Hi, I'm trying to install UFO: Alien Invasion, and I can't because I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1~20060817, and for some reason the ubuntu repo's have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1cvs+20060824?  Trouble is, I can't uninstall or replace it, because practically every GUI app relies on it.
[12:09] <iulian_> i nees some help on openssh dsa keys authentycation
[12:09] <l337> got metasploit installed
[12:09] <RobinLionheart> So I have to go back to nv and give up 3D glitziness
[12:09] <morrolan> iulian_ whats the prooblem?
[12:09] <MRAB54> morrolan - im sorry, i dont know if i said this before but these are unix machines not ubuntu, im pretty sure the default is c
[12:09] <mammoth> alguna chica d peru
[12:09] <SamePaul> mwe:  Of course I noted. But there is nothing about FW location
[12:09] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: yeah, kernel driver issues. its a right PITA to fix it. I managed it by going back to the nv driver, then rebooting using an old kernel, uninstalling all the nvidia-glx packages and the linux-restricted-modules-common/k7 packages, then apt-get clean, then reinstalling them all
[12:09] <l337> trying to add to applications menu
[12:09] <l337> got in there
[12:09] <jrattner> !limewire
[12:09] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[12:09] <nalioth> !es mammoth
[12:09] <mwe> SamePaul: I'm pretty sure /lib/fireware works
[12:09] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[12:10] <mwe> SamePaul: extract it there
[12:10] <SamePaul> mwe: Actually only steps when driver installed and wlan0 is up
[12:10] <rlevitin> can anyone help me out with some real basic setup??
[12:10] <iulian_> morrolan: I generate a pair of public and privae keys, dsa using puttygen
[12:10] <SamePaul> mwe: ok. I'll try
[12:10] <MRAB54> morrolan- i know this is ubuntu channel but i figured this would be general linux/unix question
[12:10] <l337> just making the shortcut open up in mozilla#
[12:10] <SamePaul> mwe: But shouldn't syslog says something?
[12:10] <morrolan> iulian_ ok, then what?
[12:10] <iulian_> and I can't figure out how to work with public key on server
[12:10] <l337> and more
[12:10] <l337> but thats just to start mate
[12:10] <morrolan> iulian_  ahh, ok.  one moment
[12:11] <RobinLionheart> linx: That worked? Huh, I'll try that. I actually just backed everything up and tried installing Feisty to see if that would use the latest driver. How foolish of me
[12:11] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: well, it worked using the latest repository driver
[12:11] <subkelvin> hi all, there's some command on ubuntu to rebuild from source? i would like to build with SSE/SSE2 optimizations..
[12:11] <morrolan> iulian_ do you have root or SUDO access on the box you want to SSH into?
[12:11] <Spo8> Hi, i'm using ubuntu to pull the files off of my main HD after my windows install asploded.  Someone talked me through backing up the files onto an external HD and it was working for a while, but now it claims that the destination HD is read only, so I can't access it.  Anyone know how to get create/delete rights on it again?
[12:11] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: but if your card doesnt work with that driver I guess you'd need to manually install the latest nvidia driver
[12:11] <iGadget> re
[12:11] <l337> any ideas hflappy
[12:12] <jrattner> Why would beryl stop frostwire from loading?
[12:12] <jrattner> ?
[12:12] <Jowi> iulian_, here's a nice howto for rsa/dsa to use with ssh: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-satopenssh.html?ca=dgr-btw01OpenSSh-fc
[12:12] <l337> like backtrack
[12:12] <morrolan> !ssh |iulian_
[12:12] <ubotu> iulian_: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:12] <l337> all tools in app folder
[12:12] <linxeh> RobinLionheart: the GDM issue you had is almost certainly due to the driver not having the right kernel module available, or that it wasnt built at boot (check /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules to make sure that there isnt a line with "nv" in it)
[12:12] <iGadget> how come ubuntu gets so incredibly slow when installing updates?
[12:12] <morrolan> ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub root@fileserver01  also works fine :)
[12:12] <l337> this one is simple
[12:12] <morrolan> Hi, I'm trying to install UFO: Alien Invasion, and I can't because I need libglu1-mesa 6.5.1~20060817, and for some reason the ubuntu repo's have libglu1-mesa 6.5.1cvs+20060824?  Trouble is, I can't uninstall or replace it, because practically every GUI app relies on it.
[12:12] <iulian_> morrolan: exactly that article I was reading
[12:12] <l337> probably
[12:12] <mwe> SamePaul: I think so. I don't think the firmware should be in a subdir
[12:12] <atlantia> rar!
[12:13] <hflappy> l337: add/remove didn't list it huh
[12:13] <RobinLionheart> morro: I hear you, just have no clue
[12:13] <mwe> SamePaul: I'd put the .fw files in /lib/firmware
[12:13] <atlantia> can someone help me figure out this stupid nvidia-settings weirdness?
[12:13] <l337> i got nah
[12:13] <mwe> SamePaul: hmm
[12:13] <subkelvin> putty generate keys in a format that openssh doesn't understand.. maybe ssh-keygen would be better?
[12:13] <l337> i got it from metasploit framework
[12:13] <hflappy> l337: if not then best bet is to make a script to load it up or make icon or whaeva and put into menu
[12:13] <morrolan> iulian_ and have you done the ssh-copy-id line?
[12:13] <iulian_> morrolan: after generating public and private keys on win machine using puttygen i copy the public key to server?
[12:13] <hflappy> l337: ya i know
[12:13] <l337> added folder to application menu
[12:13] <hflappy> l337: but u want it on the menu system?
[12:13] <rlevitin> !ubuntu
[12:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:13] <AlexFicelle> morrolan: have you tried a soft link to the right name?
[12:13] <atlantia> i have it perfect right now... dual twinview... used nvidia-settings w/ sudo to set it up, but the minute i restart X it goes back to being messed up
[12:13] <l337> yeah
[12:13] <rlevitin> !channels
[12:13] <morrolan> iulian_ see subkelivin's response above
[12:13] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:13] <iulian_> morrolan: i didn;t knew about ssh-copy-id
[12:13] <tom47> !webcam
[12:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:13] <bigjohntoday> Hello all
[12:14] <subkelvin> iulian_, you must put the public key on a file named ".ssh/authorized_keys" on your home dir..
[12:14] <l337> i added it
[12:14] <iGadget> ohwell
[12:14] <RobinLionheart> Oh cool, webcam info
[12:14] <l337> just doesnt open
[12:14] <morrolan> AlexFicelle how would I do that?
[12:14] <iGadget> need to reboot anyway
[12:14] <iGadget> brb
[12:14] <hflappy> l337: k...have u tried in terminal?
[12:14] <gyaresu> Hey people. Has anyone here built rtorrent/libtorrent from source?
[12:14] <RobinLionheart> I want to get my webcam working. I can't  get that to work in Vista.
[12:14] <l337> can open in terminal
[12:14] <morrolan> iulian_ see the bottom of the link I gave you via ubotu
[12:14] <Spo8> Can someone tell me how to get create/delete rights on a mounted external harddrive?
[12:14] <rlevitin> can anyone help me out with some resolution problems!??
[12:14] <bigjohntoday> an update, I made the assumption i was getting this busybox error due to my SATA drive... probablly wrong so i am now testing an IDE drive
[12:14] <l337> u seen backtrack 2
[12:14] <hflappy> l337: ok just not using menu
[12:14] <l337> latest linux mag
[12:14] <hflappy> l337: yes
[12:14] <niyi> does anyone know a reason why my make command refuses to work
[12:14] <AlexFicelle> morrolan: Well, programs are usually looking for a specific version of a library. So you just link the one you've got to the name your program is looking for.
[12:15] <SamePaul> mwe: Nothing...
[12:15] <subkelvin> niyi, what it tells to you?
[12:15] <niyi> i cant install anything
[12:15] <l337> trying to get these apps in application menu
[12:15] <hflappy> l337: nope
[12:15] <niyi> makefile not found
[12:15] <morrolan> AlexFicelle - doh!  good point.  <<<< wins the dumb question of the night award
[12:15] <AlexFicelle> morrolan: This works for programs already installed that can't find it. I don't think it'll work if it's in their dependencies.
[12:15] <subkelvin> well, to make a source you need a Makefile :)
[12:15] <atlantia> i/joi ##linux
[12:15] <l337> really good live boot cd
[12:15] <iulian_> subkelvin, morrolan: I try to generate keys on server with ssh-keygen but are not recognized by putty
[12:15] <hflappy> l337: hmm ya there's like sumtin u gotta do to be able to run console apps via the menu
[12:15] <niyi> yet my ./configure command works
[12:15] <subkelvin> you need to type "make" in the dir where you extracted the source code.. where there's a file named "Makefile"
[12:15] <Jowi> niyi, you need to install "build-essential"
[12:15] <hflappy> l337: i haven't done it yet..cuz i'm 50/50 on gui and console
[12:16] <l337> pain in the ass mate
[12:16] <niyi> done that like 3 times
[12:16] <subkelvin> iulian_, putty has a tool to import a key.. use that tool
[12:16] <l337> #just got acer 3680 laptop
[12:16] <iulian_> subkelvin, morrolan: I want to use ssh dsa or rsa for tortoisecvs, not to login everytime
[12:16] <AlexFicelle> morrolan: That's the whole point of asking people: to help you think. :-)
[12:16] <l337> got all to work fine
[12:16] <morrolan> AlexFicelle i suppose it could just be being picky
[12:16] <rlevitin> Jowi: could u help me with something basic?
[12:16] <l337> eventually
[12:16] <iulian_> subkelvin: ok, I'll try now
[12:16] <Jowi> rlevitin, depends on what it is :)
[12:16] <subkelvin> man.. this is a busy channel :D
[12:16] <l337> but getting apps to link is turning out to be hmmmm
[12:16] <bigjohntoday> ayri feekon
[12:17] <l337> same same
[12:17] <l337> what tools u using?
[12:17] <hflappy> l337: nice ;)
[12:17] <rlevitin> Jowi: I just switched from Fedora to Ubuntu, and am used to 1280 x 1024 resolution... Going to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution doesn't give me an option above 1024 x 768
[12:17] <AlexFicelle> morrolan: I've already had this with a program that absolutely wanted an older version of a library. I simply linked the old version's name to the new one.
[12:17] <Jowi> rlevitin, what hardware do you have? (videocard + monitor)
[12:17] <gyaresu> Sorry about the repeat question (I dropped): "Hey people. Has anyone here built rtorrent/libtorrent from source?"
[12:17] <hflappy> l337: standard wireshark/ettercap/nessus/BT/airoscript/nmap/
[12:18] <bigjohntoday> has anyone been able to install ubuntu on a SATA drive and using dual DVI video card?
[12:18] <rlevitin> Jowi: ATI Radeon X700 Pro (It is detected by Ubuntu)   Monitor is a Flatron LCD Generic
[12:18] <mike> ...
[12:18] <enTity> i've got it on a SATA drive and DVI video card right now :D
[12:18] <rlevitin> L1750S
[12:18] <l337> airsnort, nessus, l0pht crack, aircrack, john ripper
[12:18] <l337> stuff like that
[12:18] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: Same here; with dual monitors.
[12:18] <hflappy> l337: l0pht is old..hehe
[12:19] <l337> u sound like y the same
[12:19] <bigjohntoday> ok dual core? intel?
[12:19] <rlevitin> Jowi: In Fedora the problem was with the monitor, I just had to change the device settings, but I don't know how to do that here
[12:19] <l337> man im self taught
[12:19] <l337> :)
[12:19] <l337> work for Apple doing MCSA
[12:19] <l337> u know the general stuff
[12:19] <morrolan> !bug report
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug report - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <gyaresu> !offtopic > l337
[12:20] <morrolan> !bug
[12:20] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:20] <l337> man i jknow
[12:20] <l337> cummon
[12:20] <sohum> hi
[12:20] <Jowi> rlevitin, not sure about ATI cards I'm afrraid. you might see !resolution or !ati for help with that.
[12:20] <subkelvin> hey.. what's the command to build .deb packages from source on ubuntu? :D
[12:20] <sohum> I have ubuntu running on a desktop machine for some time now
[12:20] <sohum> subkelvin: checkinstall
[12:20] <hflappy> l337: apple
[12:20] <hflappy> l337: haha
[12:20] <RobinLionheart> Anyhow, time to try to reconcile Sabayon and Ubuntu in GRUB again
[12:20] <bigjohntoday> i will explain what is hapenning: I have this dumb box i just purchased a few days ago and been fighting ever since to get ubuntu installed i get it installed in alternate mode because graphical mode does not want to work (text mode using alternate cd) i have a matrox g550 video card and intel core duo 6300 processor.... intel board etc.... but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead saying 
[12:20] <l337> pays bills
[12:20] <vrkhans> how i can make a dual boot system
[12:21] <subkelvin> sohum, what?
[12:21] <hflappy> l337: well thats kew...ya i'm self tought too...i like to mess shEEt up
[12:21] <sohum> and I'm getting a really old laptop (dell latitude c600)
[12:21] <GoopyMonkey> does anyone know whether it is possible to boot, not install anything, on the ubuntu 6.10 disc?
[12:21] <rlevitin> !resolution
[12:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:21] <hflappy> goopy: yes
[12:21] <RobinLionheart> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[12:21] <l337> me lass hates my addiction
[12:21] <vrkhans> and what kind of partition i need in linux
[12:21] <sohum> subkelvin: ./configure, ./make, sudo checkinstall
[12:21] <bigjohntoday> oh and the HD is 250gb SATA drive
[12:21] <GoopyMonkey> hflappy:how?
[12:21] <hflappy> GoopyMonkey: yes as livecd
[12:21] <sohum> subkelvin: you might have to install checkinstall
[12:21] <hflappy> oh 6.10....uh hmm haven't tried
[12:22] <Ropechoborra> how can i remap the dameged sectors of my ide?
[12:22] <l337> what paswd crackers u using?
[12:22] <sohum> and ditrochoosers recommend fedora core, or suse
[12:22] <GoopyMonkey> it just says install, expert boot, etc.
[12:22] <subkelvin> sohum, ok.. will give this a try.. i miss the "make buildworld" from freebsd :D
[12:22] <hflappy> l337: haven't used any yet...but john is good
[12:22] <sawo> where ya from?
[12:22] <Jowi> sawo, all over the world :)
[12:22] <hflappy> GoopyMonkey: hmmm...not too sure bud...keep askin tho ;(
[12:22] <l337> this months linux mag is about pen testing
[12:22] <RobinLionheart> vrkhans: You probably don't need more than a single Ubuntu partition and a little swap partition
[12:22] <sawo> for eample?
[12:22] <hflappy> GoopyMonkey: i just read first part of your question...lol
[12:22] <GoopyMonkey> hflappy: will do ;)
[12:22] <iulian_> subkelvin, morrolan: I import private key but is the same result. When trying to connect connect to linux machine I am still prompted for username and password
[12:22] <l337> last months had backtrack
[12:23] <Ropechoborra> how can i remap the dameged sectors of my ide??
[12:23] <bigjohntoday> did anyone get that long statement of mine that i require help with
[12:23] <l337> all tools already installed
[12:23] <SiLVER> whats the best way to get a macosx-like taskbar? gdesklets applet?
[12:23] <hflappy> l337: ya they have sum nice tools
[12:23] <l337> really good
[12:23] <subkelvin> iulian_, you got your public key on the "authorized_keys" file?
[12:23] <RobinLionheart> I'm not convinced I even really need the swap with 2GB of RAM.
[12:23] <sohum> so anyway, are there disadvantages to maintaining and running both a deb and an rpm based machine? on the same network?
[12:23] <rlevitin> !ati
[12:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:23] <hflappy> bigjohntoday: say again
[12:23] <ablyss> gdesklets works well on gnome
[12:23] <l337> what u into hflappy
[12:23] <bigjohntoday> oh wow i have to type it up again
[12:23] <ablyss> cario-dock if you can get it to build
[12:23] <subkelvin> iulian_, try first to connect using publickey authentication with a unix ssh.. later do on the putty...
[12:23] <bigjohntoday> it was like a paragraph
[12:23] <linuxgoober> does anyone know how to get an external floppy to work?
[12:23] <hflappy> l337: mainly aircrack ;)
[12:24] <RobinLionheart> How much RAM before there's no point having a swap partition?
[12:24] <bigjohntoday>  i will explain what is hapenning: I have this dumb box i just purchased a few days ago and been fighting ever since to get ubuntu installed i get it installed in alternate mode because graphical mode does not want to work (text mode using alternate cd) i have a matrox g550 video card and intel core duo 6300 processor.... intel board etc.... but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead saying
[12:24] <sohum> anyone, are there disadvantages to maintaining and running both a deb and an rpm based machine? on the same network?
[12:24] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: You are having a problem with the matrox.
[12:24] <StoneNote> bigjohntoday, it cut off after: but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead sayin
[12:24] <nytejade> You should always have a swap partition
[12:24] <hflappy> linuxgoober: mount it? check dmesg when u plug it in
[12:24] <sgtmattbaker> can TVersity (media sharing software) be run in VMware to stream videos to my Xbox360
[12:24] <Pelo> how do I make is so that mplayer is the default player in ff ?  instead of totem ?
[12:24] <Jowi> SiLVER, you have a few options. gdesklets are ok but not exactly like the osx one. kxdocker comes close
[12:24] <linuxgoober> ok
[12:24] <nytejade> Linux will make use of swapfile whether or not you "run out" of ram
[12:24] <l337> command line?
[12:24] <SiLVER> Jowi: ty =)
[12:24] <tehxed> what does [compile]  Error 2 mean?
[12:24] <sohum> anyone, are there disadvantages to maintaining and running both a deb and an rpm based machine? on the same network?
[12:24] <hflappy> l337: ya and also modifying airoscript for madwifi-ng users
[12:24] <bigjohntoday> but for the life of me i cannot get ubuntu to load i keep getting busy box instead saying /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:24] <iulian_> subkelvin, how can I get my public key in authorized keys?
[12:25] <enTity> sohum: I do know that if you run deb based systems on the same network, you can set one to cache packages for the other
[12:25] <hflappy> l337: airoscript is a nice script made by Daouid and others...but ya itz nice ;)
[12:25] <nytejade> bigjohntoday: I was getting that error for a while. Which version are you trying to install?
[12:25] <Jowi> SiLVER, I use cairo-dock myself (it does not show minimized windows though)
[12:25] <bigjohntoday> 6.10
[12:25] <sgtmattbaker> maybe your grub and fstab entries need to be changed if you are getting the busybox message
[12:25] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: Oh. That's interesting.
[12:25] <nytejade> Are you installing on a macbook by any chance?
[12:25] <subkelvin> iulian_, well.. copy and paste.. it's a normal plaintext file..
[12:25] <sohum> enTity: cooooool.....
[12:25] <nitro4ce> i have an error after i install the nvidia drivers. kinda X doesnt start. i get a black screen.
[12:25] <l337> WPA WEP cracker?
[12:25] <sohum> ok thanks guys
[12:25] <hflappy> l337: wep...only 64bit wep out here....and open ;)
[12:25] <bigjohntoday> right now i chagned to an 80GB IDE drive in hopes it resolves the problems if not i am stumped
[12:25] <subkelvin> cat "id_dsa.pub" >> ~/.ssh/authorized__keys would do the trick...
[12:25] <pilgrim> When I click on any help buttons in gnome programs help (xml format) opens in firefox. How do I fix this?
[12:25] <enTity> sohum: I have this book called "Ubuntu Hacks" from o'reilly books, and it shows how to do it
[12:26] <l337> where u at uk here
[12:26] <iulian_> subkelvin, ok, I'll do it now
[12:26] <tehxed> what does [compile]  Error 2 mean?
[12:26] <mdl178> What can I do about certain gnome applications having HORRIBLE looking fonts (tall, stretched-out, not even really readable)?
[12:26] <subkelvin> iulian_, check if id_dsa.pub is your pub key.. maybe your generated on another file ;)
[12:26] <gyaresu> tehxed: What are you trying to do?
[12:27] <kane77> mdl178, what engine does the app use? (qt, gtk, gtk2)
[12:27] <l337> to much wine man im seeing stars
[12:27] <CITguy> does anybody know if/how I can set my background to a HTML document?
[12:27] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305712
[12:27] <tehxed> gyaresu, that's what i'm trying
[12:27] <niyi> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:28] <niyi> that is going to be the beginning of my convert back to windows
[12:28] <tehxed> gyaresu, when I do "sudo ./hgcompile", I get that error
[12:28] <RobinLionheart> Yuck, WEP
[12:28] <iulian_> subkelvin, it is. I am not shure where that public key should be stored. I put it now in authorized__keys
[12:28] <subkelvin> niyi, what you're installing don't have a linux binary? :)
[12:28] <bigjohntoday> niyi, read the INSTALL document I am sure it will have all the information you require
[12:29] <subkelvin> iulian_, the ssh-keygen should told you where it put your keys...
[12:29] <kitche> subkelvin: or it doesn't have a make file some apps don't use that setup
[12:29] <l337> this is what the linux OS has apart from windows
[12:29] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: Are only running the 1 SATA drive? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=474493
[12:29] <l337> a life
[12:29] <gyaresu> l337: Will you please take it #offtopic
[12:29] <subkelvin> kitche, it has a make file, from the error the makefile don't have a default target..
[12:29] <bigjohntoday> gyaresu: yes only one but now i switched to IDE to see if that would work
[12:29] <RobinLionheart> I went to WPA2 as soon as I updated my XP box with the KB hotfix that adds WPA2 support, and I upgraded my Linksys Wireless-G router firmware to support it too
[12:29] <l337> man cummon
[12:30] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: I reckon it will...
[12:30] <niyi> yes i followed the instructions
[12:30] <subkelvin> niyi, have you tried "make all"  or "make install" (be carefull with make install)
[12:30] <l337> sorry
[12:30] <kitche> subkelvin: and no makefile found.
[12:30] <l337> im on wine here
[12:30] <niyi> still it refuses to acknoledge the presencese of a make file
[12:30] <l337> anyway
[12:30] <niyi> yep
[12:30] <l337> appy u got any ideas mate
[12:30] <subkelvin> kitche, lol.. with the apt-get stuff i don't know why someone build from sources when don't know much about programming..
[12:30] <bigjohntoday> I flippin hope it will I am quite ticked at the moment at this NEW PC that sux more than my 5 year old pc!!!!
[12:31] <niyi> i jsut cant get it to make the binaries
[12:31] <_eMaX_> re
[12:31] <_eMaX_> since my upgrade to evolution 2.9.91 evolution core dumps often. can I with apt-get go back to a previous version?
[12:31] <jlamr> any know how to connect my linux comp to my windows one. they're on the same router
[12:31] <jlamr> to share files
[12:31] <_eMaX_> !samba
[12:31] <subkelvin> niyi, have you looked on the packages? some apps need special versions of make to build.. like bsd make or something..
[12:31] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:31] <tehxed> gyaresu, when I do "sudo ./hgcompile", I get that error
[12:32] <subkelvin> niyi, btw, you tried "./configure" first?
[12:32] <AdamBer1> i got a new monitor that supports a larger resolution, i don't have the resolution listed when i try to change monitor resolutions now.
[12:32] <jlamr> samba seems a bit like overkill, isnt there a simpler way?
[12:32] <niyi> yep... apparentlythis works with ubuntu edgy (which is what im using)
[12:32] <bigjohntoday> gyaresu: I can install main OS on IDE and use the SATA as a mounted secondary storage drive right, shouldn't have any problems doing that should I?
[12:32] <niyi> yes
[12:32] <subkelvin> niyi, no erros on ./configure?
[12:32] <niyi> nope
[12:34] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: Should be able to use the SATA... Maybe it's a kernel problem.
[12:34] <iulian_> subkelvin, I do this: ssh-keygen -t dsa and generates both keys in folder ~.ssh/. I let my public key there and copy my private key on win machine, convert it using puttygenerate, open putty, new session but i have to put my password and username
[12:34] <subkelvin> no one here knows a command line for build a package from source? i'm new to this ubuntu/debian stuff
[12:34] <gyaresu> tehxed: You were getting an error 2 message right? Could you post it again please
[12:34] <bigjohntoday> gyaresu: honestly as long as I can use something as for the OS and get this system up and running I wouldn't mind using 250g's for storage..... but if it does not work as well then i will be uterlly stumped!
[12:35] <gemini9> hello
[12:35] <rlevitin> !xorg
[12:35] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:35] <StefanNuxoll> subkelvin, hi, I believe I can help you
[12:35] <subkelvin> iulian_, ok.. you pasted your public key into the authorized_keys? i don't know much about putty using public keys :(
[12:35] <gemini9> i just d/l ed opera v. 9.10 running Kubuntu
[12:35] <gyaresu> iulian_: This is what I use to jog my memory: http://linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[12:35] <tehxed> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic'
[12:35] <tehxed> make: *** [compile]  Error 2
[12:35] <tehxed> gyaresu,
[12:35] <subkelvin> StefanNuxoll, :) i'm trying to build optimized packages.. i read about something like apt-build.. but can't find it
[12:35] <gemini9> anyone have input, pls?
[12:36] <jrib> !info apt-build | subkelvin
[12:36] <gyaresu> tehxed: Yep?
[12:36] <ubotu> subkelvin: apt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB
[12:36] <tehxed> gyaresu, make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic'
[12:36] <tehxed> make: *** [compile]  Error 2
[12:36] <StefanNuxoll> subelvin they are thinking about apt-get, which lets you build source packages, why do you want optimized packages might I ask?
[12:37] <subkelvin> duuhh.. need to install it first :D.. don't know why ubuntu don't have some basic utils like the "ftp" console client =\
[12:37] <iulian_> subkelvin, yes, if authorized_keys is a directory in ~.ssh, where ssh-keygen generated my files
[12:37] <christianp> hi all
[12:37] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: You can only try then. Have you tried a LiveCD to see if it can boot up and access the drive? Might help figure out what's missing.
[12:37] <subkelvin> StefanNuxoll, just curious about the speed using gcc optimization flags
[12:37] <gemini9> i did install it, subkelvin
[12:37] <vrkhans> can any one help me in partitioning my hard drive
[12:37] <subkelvin> iulian_, authorized_keys is a file.. not a directory
[12:37] <vrkhans> for linux
[12:37] <christianp> is there a graphical ssh/ftp client permitting to transfer files from a remote server to another?
[12:38] <jrib> !ftp | christianp
[12:38] <iulian_> :(
[12:38] <ubotu> christianp: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:38] <vrkhans> what kind of partition i need to install linux
[12:38] <gyaresu> vrkhans: You can just let Ubuntu automatically do it. Do you need something specific?
[12:38] <iulian_> subkelvin, gyaresu, I get it now
[12:38] <vrkhans> ya i have a dual boot system
[12:38] <betatux> christel, you can use nautilus to connect to a ssh server and download/upload/edit files etc
[12:38] <StefanNuxoll> subkelvin, for everyday use on most PC's optimized packages are not important...if you really want an optimized system, Ubuntu is not for you, and you should give Gentoo a shot
[12:38] <subkelvin> gemini9, sorry?
[12:38] <StoneNote> christel, sudo apt-get install putty
[12:38] <iulian_> subkelvin, gyaresu, I'll try to put it in autorized_keys
[12:38] <betatux> christianp,  you can use nautilus to connect to a ssh server and download/upload/edit files etc
[12:39] <Puschman> mubutu
[12:39] <vrkhans> and i keep 20 gb for linux
[12:39] <bigjohntoday> gyaresu: well it still didn't load now i am attempting to go into recovery mode
[12:39] <gyaresu> vrkhans: (preface your statement with the person nick that you are talking too)
[12:39] <vrkhans> ok
[12:39] <bigjohntoday> gyaresu: I get a kernal panic, what do you think may be causing this?
[12:39] <christianp> betatux: i have to transer files from a server to another server without passing through local machine
[12:39] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: LiveCD? I'd give it a try.
[12:39] <subkelvin> StefanNuxoll, i know it, but i can build the packages and install it on ubuntu, right?
[12:39] <gyaresu> bigjohntoday: It can't find the primary drive I reckon...
[12:39] <starly> bigjohntoday: vanilla kernel?
[12:39] <vrkhans> gyaresu, I keep 20gb for linux
[12:39] <betatux> christianp, i see
[12:40] <bigjohntoday> starly: yes generic kernel
[12:40] <gemini9> i DID install Opera, subkelvin, at least the from the front page of site... do i need term mode?
[12:40] <mini_g> q: if i update the kernel, but nothing else, should edgy still work?
[12:40] <tehxed> gyaresu,  "/home/usman/alsa-driver/acore/../alsa-kernel/core/rtctimer.c:133: warning: implicit declaration of function is_power_of_2"
[12:40] <vrkhans> is that enough
[12:40] <gyaresu> For some reason the installer finds everything and then the installed kernel is missing something...
[12:40] <bigjohntoday> gyarseu: isn't the ubuntu desktop basically the liveCD?
[12:40] <vrkhans> gyaresu i didnt get you
[12:40] <StefanNuxoll> subkelvin: You can only build source deb packages, if you wish to do so, make sure you have the development libraries that the packages require and install them through "apt-get source"
[12:41] <gyaresu> tehxed: Could you pastebin the last chunk of messages that it's failing on please?
[12:41] <gyaresu> vrkhans: Now I'm speaking to you :)
[12:41] <subkelvin> gemini9, you didn't NEED term mode.. or console..
[12:41] <vrkhans> gyaresu now how much space should i reserve for the boot swap and root
[12:41] <StefanNuxoll> subkelvin: also make sure to use the -b flag when doing so, then apt will build it after it downloads, which it won't otherwise
[12:42] <geeksauce> when accessing my SMB shared folders on my ubuntu box from my windows machines, it asks for a username and password.  any way to disable this?  my xbox can read the share just fine with no auth
[12:42] <gyaresu> vrkhans: I reckon you should get the gparted livecd to make yourself a 20GB chunk. That way ubuntu should just leave it alone for you. Let me find the link.
[12:42] <subkelvin> StefanNuxoll, ok.. will give it a try.. thanks for the helf
[12:42] <subkelvin> ops.. help
[12:42] <starly> with apt-get source i would be able to downgrade xorg with apt, i suppose?
[12:42] <Vlet> my installation keeps stalling at 48%.. if the cd was corrupt, it wouldn't just stall would it?
[12:42] <gyaresu> vrkhans: You can do all that stuff manually if you want but it's easier to let the installer take care of it.
[12:43] <gyaresu> vrkhans: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:43] <Phlosten> Vlet: why not?
[12:43] <StefanNuxoll> subkelbin: No problem, that's why I am here.  Feel free to ask if you need more help.
[12:43] <SpudDogg> Is there a way to set up Ubuntu so that I do NOT have to enter my password all the time?  For example, every time I open Synaptic, Network settings, or when I run 'sudo <command>'?
[12:43] <_eMaX_> all: if in e.g. feisty I have one program that doesn't work reliably (evolution) how would I go back to the previous version of that same program, as of edgy?
[12:43] <Vlet> Phlosten: well, I dunoh.. nevermind :)
[12:43] <starly> SpudDogg: you could login as root, but it's very unsecure
[12:44] <Vlet> Phlosten: I would assume the installer would recieve an error from the cdrom
[12:44] <Phlosten> Vlet: have you tested the cd with the option in the menu when you start the cd?
[12:44] <geeksauce> i can enter my ubuntu username and pass and it will work, but the idea is for my roommates to have access to my shared folder with no password or username
[12:44] <Vlet> doing so now
[12:44] <gemini9> i was on Opera home page, and d/led the browser
[12:44] <madd_matt> SpudDogg, I'd recommend just typing your password in.  Although it is a bit more annoying in gnome than kde....
[12:45] <vrkhans> gyaresu what kind of file system i should use
[12:45] <subkelvin> SpudDogg, sudo has an option to let a user run programs as root without password, don't if it works on ubuntu.. but maybe worth a try
[12:45] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369664
[12:45] <gemini9> i restarted my pc, and Opera is Not in my browser menu..did i miss something?
[12:45] <gyaresu> vrkhans: ext3
[12:45] <vrkhans> which one is better
[12:45] <starly> SpudDogg: if you do all the things by command-line-interface you could set your "timeout-time" for sudo to a really big time and then you have to type your password only once per terminal
[12:45] <vrkhans> what about that ReiserFS
[12:45] <starly> SpudDogg: to achieve this, you have to read "man sudoers"
[12:45] <geeksauce> anyone?
[12:45] <vrkhans> someone is saying use that
[12:46] <SpudDogg> starly, madd_matt, subkelvin: ok, thanks for the info
[12:46] <Xzenome> geeksauce, from your computer or over a network?
[12:46] <gyaresu> gemini9: Use the ubuntu repos: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[12:47] <Vilhelms> For some reason nm-applet won't connect to my home wireless network but it does to my work network.
[12:47] <tehxed> gyaresu, any ideas?
[12:47] <vrkhans> gyaresu what you think about the ReiserFS
[12:47] <gyaresu> vrkhans: Remember to preface. It's very noisy in here. Just use ext3. Trust me.
[12:47] <vrkhans> ok
[12:48] <gyaresu> tehxed: Sorry. Just a second.
[12:48] <vrkhans> i have gparted on this live cd
[12:48] <geeksauce> over the LAN in my house
[12:48] <vrkhans> gyaresu i have that gparted on this live cd
[12:48] <vrkhans> can i use that
[12:48] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369664; incasw you need it again
[12:48] <geeksauce> Xzenome, over the lan in my house (sorry forgot nick prefix)
[12:48] <gyaresu> vrkhans: yep. you can.
[12:48] <Xzenome> geeksauce, this is a crap solution but you could just serve it by http and then they can access it in their browser.
[12:49] <gyaresu> vrkhans: remember to reboot after changing/creating partitions with a livecd
[12:49] <gyaresu> Xzenome: geeksauce: sounds like you just want a samba share for user 'guest' with no passwd.
[12:49] <pilgrim> How do I change the file associations with programs?
[12:49] <geeksauce> Xzenome, yeah that is what i want
[12:50] <mini_g> if i update the kernel, but nothing else, should edgy still work?  i am wanting to get the nvidia drivers working on a no internet computer, so i thought that i might as well get the latest kernel along with its source.
[12:50] <pilgrim> Because I have firefox that's trying to open XML help documents.
[12:50] <vrkhans> gyaresu it gives me an error , saying root privileges are required for runnig gparted
[12:50] <Xzenome> So, install apache2 via apt-get and then put your documents in /var/www
[12:50] <vermoos> if i'm paranoid about my (illegal) multimedia packages, how can i monitor stuff that's going on on my system?
[12:50] <gyaresu> tehxed: So you've got the fujitsu t64210 as well?
[12:50] <vrkhans> gyaresu what should i do
[12:50] <gyaresu> vrkhans: 'sudo gparted'
[12:50] <Xzenome> geeksauce: So, install apache2 via apt-get and then put your documents in /var/www
[12:51] <Vilhelms> For some reason nm-applet won't connect to my home wireless network but it does to my work network. Does anyone have any clue why this would happen?
[12:51] <vrkhans> gyaresy i didnt get you
[12:51] <idefix> how can you tell if you have a 32- or a 64-bit environment?
[12:51] <vrkhans> gyaresy what should i do
[12:51] <tehxed> gyaresu, no.. Gateway MX7118
[12:51] <subkelvin> idefix, uname -a
[12:51] <tehxed> gyaresu, we're talking about laptops, right?
[12:51] <gyaresu> tehxed: Same soundcard though?
[12:51] <tehxed> err no
[12:51] <tehxed> i don't think so
[12:51] <Prestwick> Hey guys, any recommendations for a decent Video Editing program for Linux?
[12:51] <jrib> Prestwick: kino, pitivi
[12:52] <gyaresu> tehxed: didn't you post this as what you were doing?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305712
[12:52] <Prestwick> Cgeers Jrib
[12:52] <Prestwick> Cheers even
[12:52] <tehxed> gyaresu, yes I did
[12:52] <yomm>  Prestwick : cinelerra
[12:52] <tehxed> gyaresu, following a suggestion from xanatus
[12:52] <geeksauce> Xzenome, why do i need to install webserver software for that?  i mean why can my xbox read the share just fine with no auth?
[12:52] <gyaresu> tehxed: so why are you following this guide?
[12:52] <tehxed> gyaresu, following a suggestion from xanatus
[12:52] <Prestwick> Cheers Yomm
[12:52] <|PrinCo|> hi
[12:52] <LOLZebra> no
[12:52] <Xzenome> geeksauce, what are you sharing it with?
[12:53] <tehxed> gyaresu, I have a Gateway MX7118 Laptop, with Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 installed. The problem is that the sound is in and out. If I restart it goes out. If I restart again, it comes back... only sometimes.
[12:53] <gyaresu> tehxed: let's start at the begining... What exactly is the problem/ are you trying to achieve.
[12:53] <geeksauce> SMB
[12:53] <geeksauce> Xzenome, smb
[12:53] <tehxed> gyaresu, I have a Gateway MX7118 Laptop, with Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 installed. The problem is that the sound is in and out. If I restart it goes out. If I restart again, it comes back... only sometimes.
[12:53] <vrkhans> gyaresu: what i should do
[12:53] <gyaresu> Sound stops? Sound stops and starts only after reboots or whilst you are using it?
[12:54] <tehxed> gyaresu, after reboots
[12:54] <vrkhans> gyaresu: what you said about to do with gparted
[12:54] <gyaresu> vrkhans: about what?
[12:54] <Xzenome> geeksauce, sorry I've never used the smb protocol
[12:54] <tehxed> gyaresu, I don't know what gparted is
[12:54] <gyaresu> vrkhans: didn't you just want a 20GB partition separate to the rest of the drive?
[12:54] <vrkhans> gyaresu
[12:55] <subkelvin> geeksauce, there's an option on the smb.conf file to set if guest is ok or not ok in a share.. maybe that?
[12:55] <vrkhans> gyaresu: i tried to run it
[12:55] <mini_g> q answered.
[12:55] <iulian_> subkelvin, gyaresu, it worked with keys generated on linux machine
[12:55] <vrkhans> gyaresu:from the command prompt
[12:55] <gyaresu> tehxed: It's cool I'm talking to two people. Can you please post your 'lspci' via pastebin?
[12:55] <vrkhans> gyaresu: but erro root privilages need
[12:55] <iulian_> and private key converted with puttygenerate
[12:55] <tehxed> gyaresu, I noticed. Thanks for your help
[12:55] <gyaresu> vrkhans: What livecd are you using? Do you have the desktop?
[12:55] <geeksauce> subkelvin, i'll check but i don't think so because my xbox reads it and doesn't even prompt for auth
[12:55] <vrkhans> gyaresu: i am using the live xbuntu cd
[12:55] <subkelvin> iulian_, so.. it worked? :)
[12:55] <vrkhans> desktop
[12:56] <lisapc> when I run a xbuntu livecd, it run and loaded. but when I chos INSTALL, it stops at 86%. But when I install it on anothe computer, it installs fine.  Does this mean my notebook cannot install or support Ubuntu?
[12:56] <Josh120> Hello
[12:56] <martin-> I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu into live-mode, after the loading bar reaches the end I just end up with a blank black screen. I'm using a Radeon 9800XT by the way.
[12:56] <idefix> subkelvin? Linux vincent 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Dec 12 15:56:39 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:56] <idefix>  ? what do I have 32- or 64-bit?
[12:56] <subkelvin> geeksauce, so your xbox can read the files on the share, but your friends with xp dont?
[12:56] <gyaresu> vrkhans: so did you try 'sudo gparted'?
[12:56] <iulian_> subkelvin, yes :) finally
[12:56] <subkelvin> idefix, i686 it's a 32bit :D
[12:56] <SpAwN> lisapc, use the install dvd/cd's the live ones suck...they compleatly messed up my partion table and messed everything up
[12:56] <iulian_> subkelvin thanks for help
[12:56] <subkelvin> iulian_, nice :D
[12:56] <idefix> thx
[12:56] <geeksauce> subkelvin, correct
[12:56] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369677
[12:56] <tehxed> gyaresu, that's the lspci
[12:56] <gyaresu> tehxed: cheers.
[12:56] <Aggrav8d> hello! :)
[12:57] <subkelvin> geeksauce, well... maybe that part on the xbox wasn't write by MS :D
[12:57] <SpAwN> lisapc, or at least use the "text" based installer on the live dvd
[12:57] <vrkhans> let me
[12:57] <gyaresu> tehxed: desktop machine?
[12:57] <firefly2442> My time is correct in the commandline but incorrect in Gnome, is there a way to change it?
[12:57] <geeksauce> subkelvin, it wasn't... my xbox is hard modded
[12:57] <subkelvin> geeksauce, have you tried the guest option on the smb.conf?
[12:57] <gemini9> am at that dapper site, gyra
[12:57] <tehxed> gyaresu, laptop. A Gateway MX7118.
[12:58] <Aggrav8d> i've been trying to google something without success, i hope one of you can help me.  I'm looking for info on how to manage domains more quickly and easily.  ideally I'd be able to manage them through another web page.  anyone know of a page talking about how to do this?
[12:58] <lisapc> SpAwN so i should download and install the proper kbuntu cd?
[12:58] <vrkhans> gyaresu:
[12:58] <vrkhans> gyaresu: now its running
[12:58] <gyaresu> tehxed: shitty little ac'97 sound chip...
[12:58] <firefly2442> ugh, nevermind, UTC time
[12:58] <gyaresu> vrkhans: cool.
[12:58] <SpAwN> lisapc, yes if it is kde(kubuntu) you want to use. or use the text based installer.....that worked for me
[12:58] <tehxed> gyaresu, I think so. Just need it to function.. that's all
[12:58] <vrkhans> gyaresu: i wnat to make a dual boot system , should i first install windows first
[12:58] <lisapc> SpAwN the text based installer?
[12:58] <vrkhans> gyaresu: and then install linux
[12:59] <subkelvin> Aggrav8d, have you looked for "webmin".. maybe there's something better these days..
[12:59] <vrkhans> or it doesnt matter
[12:59] <geeksauce> subkelvin, i will look, but what about using NFS to share instead?
[12:59] <lisapc> SpAwN where can I download the 6.10 kbuntu and ubuntu?
[12:59] <subkelvin> geeksauce, i don't know if windows can access NFS shares by default.. on the 2000/ME it need a driver for it =\
[12:59] <SpAwN> lisapc, yea put in the dvd.reboot.when it starts the dvd...it should ask do you wan to.......and hopefully there should be a option with somthing about text
[12:59] <lisapc> SpAwN so just because the xbuntu livecd didnt install, doesnt mean my notebook cant install ubuntu?
[12:59] <tehxed> gyaresu, brb
[01:00] <gyaresu> vrkhans: If you install XP first then the ubuntu install disk will find it automatically and you probably don't need to mess around with partitioning yourself. (Kind of like I recommended :)
[01:00] <gyaresu> tehxed: np
[01:00] <SpAwN> lisapc, no no......if you want xubuntu dl the xubuntu cd.
[01:00] <SpAwN> lisapc, the live dvd/cd will start?..and just not install?...or
[01:00] <geeksauce> subkelvin, that's fine.... if they want my files they can DL a driver :)
[01:00] <lufis> Feisty's bug reporter tool actually expects you to sign up for a launchpad account. How is that at all user-friendly? On Windows XP crashes and errors are sent right to Microsoft automatically. No signing up for anything required.
[01:01] <lisapc> SpAwN the xbuntu livecd starts and works fine.  but when I chose INSTALL, then it stops at 86%
[01:01] <subkelvin> geeksauce, that sounds fair to me :D.. and i think NFS is faster than SMB
[01:01] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. Trying to format device as ext3 using mkfs.ext3. kepp getting this error "/dev/hdb is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!". Any thoughts?
[01:01] <SpAwN> lisapc, yea then *ubuntu WILL work.
[01:01] <tehxed> gyaresu, back
[01:01] <geeksauce> subkelvin, fastest way to set that up?
[01:01] <martin-> anyone have a clue regarding the blank black screen occuring after the splash screen?
[01:01] <lisapc> SpAwN so where cna I download 6.10 full ubuntu install CD?
[01:01] <Jowi> gizmo_the_great1, it might be mounted. "mount" should show you if that's the case.
[01:02] <SpAwN> lisapc, just see if there is a text based installer on the dvd/cd if not dl the install version..the live one isnt too good at installing
[01:02] <SpAwN> lisapc, try gogole
[01:02] <gizmo_the_great1> Jowi: already checked. it isnt
[01:02] <subkelvin> geeksauce, no, faster in file transfers.. well.. setup in NFS is easy too.. only edit the /etc/exports file
[01:02] <SpAwN> lisapc, i dont have alink on hand
[01:02] <lisapc> SpAwN why would the xbuntu liveCD install fine on other systems, but not mine?
[01:02] <firefly2442> lisapc, try the alternative CD
[01:02] <Jowi> gizmo_the_great1, "sudo fdisk -l" to see if /dev/sdb is the actual partition.
[01:02] <lisapc> SpAwN whats gogole?
[01:02] <SamePaul> someone knows about HOTPLUG?
[01:02] <SpAwN> lisapc, luck of the draw...diff hardware
[01:02] <Jowi> gizmo_the_great1, hdb i meant
[01:02] <SpAwN> lisapc, lol google.com
[01:02] <lisapc> SpAwN ;)
[01:03] <gyaresu> tehxed: when you 'don't have sound', can you alsamixer?
[01:03] <geeksauce> subkelvin, i meant what is the quickest way to install NFS and get it set up
[01:03] <tehxed> I can still see it
[01:03] <tehxed> THe sound icon to the top right
[01:03] <SpAwN> lisapc, so yea...i had the same issue so dont get discouraged :-)
[01:03] <StoneNote> lisapc, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[01:03] <tehxed> I can even play something in VLC Player ..an mp3 or something, but no sound comes out.
[01:04] <rga> which line I place in grub so that it initiates windows ?
[01:04] <crimsun> tehxed: pastebin your ``amixer'' output
[01:04] <gyaresu> tehxed: (preface nick) Can you open up alsamixer. I reckon the problem you have is levels...
[01:04] <lufis> rga: did it not do it automatically?
[01:05] <roho> !beryl
[01:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:05] <rga> lufis my ubuntu is 6.06
[01:05] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369688
[01:05] <tehxed> What do you mean open up alsamixer?
[01:05] <lufis> rga: if you installed ubuntu after windows, it should do it for you
[01:05] <tehxed> oh ok
[01:05] <tehxed> gyaresu, they're all full volume
[01:05] <crimsun> tehxed: try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[01:06] <Vilhelms> For some reason my window borders are all gone, I can't Alt+tab and none of the windows show up on the task bar :( Could someone please help me?
[01:06] <lufis> Vilhelms: run "metacity"
[01:06] <rkyraccoon55> how do you change your screen resolution in ubuntu?
[01:06] <tehxed> crimsun, You sir.. ..holy crap
[01:06] <gyaresu> Hey crimsun. tehxed; post the output of amixer to pastebin like crimsun asked... or try the above command first :)
[01:06] <Vilhelms> lufis: Thanks! That fixed it. Why wouldn't it load on boot?
[01:07] <lufis> Vilhelms: dunno... have you changed anything in the sessions window?
[01:07] <tehxed> crimsun, I remember you.. from ..over 8 or 9 months ago
[01:07] <gyaresu> tehxed: Lot's easier than debugging compile errors eh? :)
[01:07] <tehxed> gyaresu, oh yes
[01:07] <gyaresu> tehxed: He lives here.
[01:07] <tehxed> gyaresu, it's working fine
[01:07] <colbert> Hello, how do I access my Windows XP partition and Vista drive in Ubuntu ???
[01:07] <Vilhelms> lufis: I disabled beryl manager, but I could've disabled something else by mistake. Thanks! I will check :)
[01:07] <tehxed> crimsun, helped me a whooollee long time ago when I was installing it on a different laptop
[01:08] <lufis> Vilhelms: i did the same once... pretty irritating not being able to move windows :P
[01:08] <Vilhelms> lufis: Yeah haha it is
[01:08] <geeksauce> subkelvin, still with me?
[01:08] <subkelvin> geeksauce, yes.. sorry.. :D only a little away
[01:08] <gyaresu> colbert: ntfs-3g is good for the xp drive. Vista... Don't know what filesystem it uses.
[01:08] <subkelvin> geeksauce, so you got the nfs running?
[01:09] <rkyraccoon55> how do you change your screen resolution?
[01:09] <gyaresu> !resolution
[01:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:09] <a5benwillis> Vilhelms: Make sure you have AddARGBGLXVisuals True in the device section of your xorg.conf
[01:09] <Slart> rkyraccoon55: in System, Preferences, Screen resoultion I think
[01:09] <Vilhelms> lufis: Could it be the "nautilus --no-desktop"? I don't know if thats correct but that is on my sessions
[01:09] <geeksauce> subkelvin, nah that's what i need help with :)
[01:09] <rkyraccoon55> slart: yea i just saw that and now feel pretty stupid
[01:09] <lufis> Vilhelms: could be, but i wouldn't change it. just make sure metacity is there
[01:09] <Slart> rkyraccoon55: hehe.. no worries..we all do that at one time or another
[01:10] <Vilhelms> lufis: Alright
[01:10] <steal> hi all
[01:10] <lufis> Vilhelms: nautilus is the file manager but also manages the desktop, so that's not pertinent to your situation
[01:10] <kILLusion> hi
[01:10] <morgan> what happened to automatix....???....
[01:10] <tehxed> gyaresu, So how do I undo all of these steps I did with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305712?
[01:10] <lufis> Vilhelms: metacity manages windows
[01:10] <subkelvin> geeksauce, well.. you need to install it on the ubuntu and edit the /etc/exports line.. i don't know much ubuntu.. so maybe i'm not the best person to help you
[01:10] <Vilhelms> a5benwillis: That option is not even in my device section, should I add it?
[01:10] <kILLusion> after installing ubuntu 6.10 i cant boot, recovery mode doesnt work, too
[01:10] <Slart> morgan: what do you mean? it's gone?
[01:10] <a5benwillis> Vilhelms: Do you get windows that open and wont move? You have to click alt to move them?
[01:10] <kILLusion> it hangs after usb detection
[01:10] <a5benwillis> yes
[01:11] <Aggrav8d> subkelvin - thanks for the suggestion re: webmin
[01:11] <Vilhelms> a5benwillis: Nooo... just metacity wasn't open... it works fine when I open metacity :)
[01:11] <kILLusion> but booting the cd and running the setup worked
[01:11] <steal> i can't play music with new users
[01:11] <gyaresu> tehxed: You never got to 'sudo make install' did you?
[01:11] <tehxed> gyaresu, no, i didn't
[01:11] <tehxed> gyaresu, got that error we were trouble..mainly you were troubleshooting
[01:11] <a5benwillis> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[01:11] <geeksauce> subkelvin, ok thanks, i'm sure someone can help me in here
[01:11] <a5benwillis> do you have nvidia vid card?
[01:12] <gyaresu> tehxed: Good then all you did was try to make the binaries in those directories. Nothing got installed in the system. So you can just delete those dirs.
[01:12] <morgan> what happened to automatix....???....
[01:12] <hflappy> hmm...are the repo's down?
[01:12] <geeksauce> can anyone help me set up NFS file sharing?
[01:12] <Vilhelms> a5benwillis: ATI
[01:12] <tehxed> gyaresu, Wicked!
[01:12] <tehxed> gyaresu, thanks
[01:12] <gyaresu> tehxed: yes.
[01:12] <gyaresu> tehxed: no problem.
[01:12] <tehxed> crimsun, Thanks.. again man
[01:12] <subkelvin> geeksauce, the packages is nfs-user-server and the exports syntax is very simple
[01:12] <a5benwillis> Vilhelms: Ah, that could be different then.....
[01:12] <tehxed> crimsun, if you have some time, I need help with setting up wireless
[01:12] <tehxed> crimsun, probably something simple again
[01:12] <Vilhelms> a5benwillis: Heh :) Yeah, it seems to be workign fine now though
[01:13] <gyaresu> tehxed: *cough*
[01:13] <tehxed> gyaresu, , ...have any idea how I can get the BCM4318 Airforce card to work with Ubuntu Edgy?
[01:13] <kILLusion> why can't i boot ubuntu 6.10 on my athlon xp 2600+? it hangs at usb detection :/
[01:13] <Slart> morgan: what do you mean "happened"? what about automatix doesn't meet your expectations?
[01:13] <christianp> betatux: can i use wget to download files via ftp?
[01:13] <gyaresu> tehxed: Open a command prompt. type 'iwconfig'.
[01:13] <betatux> christianp, yep wget can do that
[01:13] <Xzenome> geeksauce, I found the guide very useful http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[01:14] <christianp> how can i say to wget the port i have to connect to?
[01:14] <gyaresu> tehxed: you got any 'wireless extensions' ?
[01:14] <christianp> and then the path?
[01:14] <subkelvin> christel, ftp://user:password@host:port/path
[01:14] <geeksauce> subkelvin, if i set it to allow by ip address and enter my default gateway as an allowed ip, will it allow all devices on my network?
[01:14] <tehxed> gyaresu, What do you mean by that?
[01:14] <betatux> christianp, and there's a GUI for wget called gwget
[01:15] <christianp> betatux: it's not possible, i'm on the server via ssh ;)
[01:15] <SamePaul> how to install HOTPLUG?
[01:15] <gyaresu> tehxed: You know the command prompt? A 'terminal'?
[01:15] <subkelvin> geeksauce, no.. your need to tell it to allow to your network and a netmask.. something like 255.255.255.0 as netmask will do for you i think..
[01:15] <betatux> christianp, like subkelvin says above
[01:15] <tehxed> gyaresu, terminal, yes.
[01:15] <gyaresu> tehxed: Are you on gnome or kde?
[01:15] <christianp> ah,ok , i see
[01:15] <SamePaul> i try make isntall but it fails!
[01:15] <tehxed> gyaresu, was that sarcam?
[01:15] <tehxed> gyaresu, gnome i believe
[01:15] <christianp> thanks friends :)
[01:16] <gyaresu> tehxed: no. serious.
[01:16] <tehxed> gyaresu, yeah, it says gnome in the start!
[01:16] <patrick_> I just finished installing ubuntu for the first time !!!!!! bye bye to xp
[01:16] <SamePaul> i just hate it...
[01:16] <geeksauce> subkelvin, yes that is my subnet mask, but how do i tell it to allow my network?
[01:16] <lufis> patrick_: woot :)
[01:16] <patrick_> i need some help.. everything seems to work out of the box but my wireless is kinda slow
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[01:16] <gyaresu> tehxed: if you type the command 'iwconfig' it's like ifconfig for wireless devices. Should show ath0 or wlan0 or something...
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[01:17] <qtsyoa8229> UBUNTU SUCKS ASS
[01:17] <pmnwgs9886> UBUNTU SUCKS ASS
[01:17] <morgan> does anyone know what happened to automatix....???....
[01:17] <kILLusion> wow
[01:17] <jaek> he thinks he is so smart
[01:17] <tehxed> ...holy crap
[01:17] <subkelvin> geeksauce, put something like this: "/path/to/files -network=192.168.0 -mask=255.255.255.0 -ro" that works on my openbsd :D
[01:17] <Bikarbonat> lovely, Return of the Script Kiddie, Part 2
[01:17] <blaze> lol
[01:17] <Xzenome> Is there an Ubuntu social channel on IRC?
[01:17] <gyaresu> tehxed: if you type the command 'iwconfig' it's like ifconfig for wireless devices. Should show ath0 or wlan0 or something...
[01:17] <Slart> morgan: why don't you tell what your wondering about.. is it gone? not working?
[01:17] <jrib> Xzenome: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <gyaresu> Xzenome: #offtopic
[01:18] <Xzenome> thankyou
[01:18] <TwoPints> i've installed swat with apt-get on samba, but when i point my browser to localhost:901 i get a connection error
[01:18] <TwoPints>  what have i missed?
[01:18] <gyaresu> Xzenome: sorry. yes, what he said.
[01:18] <r0bby> TwoPints: we just got flooded :P
[01:18] <blaze> !security
[01:18] <ubotu> If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[01:18] <tesuki> the mass spam of the words "UBUNTU SUCKS ASS" how do I get info how to create such a thing?
[01:18] <SamePaul> !root
[01:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:19] <lufis> tesuki: do you really think we'll tell you?
[01:19] <TwoPints> robby: yes i see are we in moderated more or something?
[01:19] <tehxed> gyaresu, , get that?
[01:19] <blaze> !tor
[01:19] <morgan> does anyone know what happened to automatix....???....
[01:19] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[01:19] <jrib> morgan: have you tried #automatix?
[01:19] <subkelvin> geeksauce, sorry.. on ubuntu i think is "/path  192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro)" the docs don't help much with ip adresses..
[01:19] <gyaresu> tehxed: Hey what?
[01:19] <Slart> !automatix > morgan
[01:19] <kILLusion> can any1 tell me why ubuntu 6.10 crashes after install on boot?
[01:19] <r0bby> what's the point behind trolling?
[01:19] <blaze> morgan,  try automatix2
[01:19] <blaze> lol
[01:19] <r0bby> are you THAT pathetic that you have troll?
[01:20] <morgan> the site apears to be gone....
[01:20] <blaze> wait
[01:20] <tesuki> lufis: I see no reason why you shouldn't?
[01:20] <sbtaco> anyone know of some good firmware for bcm4318 wireless card?
[01:20] <SamePaul> !wlan > SamePaul
[01:20] <blaze> Ill find the site for you this will take a minute tho
[01:20] <lufis> tesuki: you don't see a reason why people in an irc chat wouldn't tell you how to flood an irc room?
[01:20] <morgan> try it....
[01:20] <SamePaul> !wireless > SamePaul
[01:21] <morgan> it's been down all day....
[01:21] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369709
[01:21] <tesuki> lufis: just wanna know what it is called. why should I use it it's annoying right?
[01:21] <TwoPints> (second time sry) i've installed swat with apt-get on samba, but when i point my browser to localhost:901 i get a connection error
[01:21] <TwoPints>   what have i missed?
[01:21] <morgan> wondered if the mpaa got them or one of those nazi orgs....
[01:21] <geeksauce> subkelvin, i am using the GUI to configure allowed networks.  my router address/default gateway is 192.168.1.1; i'm assuming that's what i put in the network field?
[01:21] <elkbuntu> r0bby, what is the point of harping on about trolling and hence giving the trolls the attention they desire?
[01:21] <gyaresu> tehxed: man you got wireless rocking.
[01:22] <tehxed> gyaresu, but.. i can't connect to it!
[01:22] <gyaresu> tehxed: Everythings working for you today :)
[01:22] <tehxed> gyaresu, no dude! =(
[01:22] <tesuki> lufis: nope
[01:22] <tehxed> gyaresu, it's not connected.
[01:22] <subkelvin> geeksauce, put 192.168.1.0 and netmask 255.255.255.0.. i don't know the gui for nfs :(
[01:22] <SamePaul> HOW TO INSTALL HOTPLUG? Anybody knows?
[01:22] <tehxed> gyaresu, "Access Point: Invalid"
[01:22] <transgress> SamePaul: hotplug is outdated.  it's udev now
[01:22] <gyaresu> What you need is a wireless manager... Wait a second, let me ask.
[01:23] <kILLusion> can any1 tell my why ubuntu 6.10 crashes on my athlon xp 2600+ directly after install on boot?
[01:23] <patrick_> where do you get a wireless manager?
[01:23] <gyaresu> Hey everyone. What's the Gnome equivalent to knetworkmanager?
[01:23] <SamePaul> transgress: thanks. Can I use it for wireless too?
[01:23] <blaze> morgan, did it work?
[01:23] <PriceChild> tesuki, You don't want to know how
[01:23] <subkelvin> kILLusion, it depends where it crashs
[01:23] <lufis> kILLusion: can you give us some more details? anything strange happen? non-standard hardware, maybe?
[01:23] <geeksauce> subkelvin, why 192.168.1.0?  that is a non-existent ip on my network
[01:23] <morgan> no....go to the site....it's gone.....
[01:23] <transgress> SamePaul: i fail to see why not.  if your card is supported.  what do you mean?
[01:23] <kILLusion> i tried recovery mode but it also hung
[01:24] <kILLusion> it crashes when the loading bar (the orange one) shows up
[01:24] <gyaresu> Anyone? Easy to use Wireless GUI for teh noob under Gnome?
[01:24] <geeksauce> transgress, what painkillers?
[01:24] <subkelvin> geeksauce, when you use netmask you must zero the bits where the netmask are open.. so 255.255.255.0 open the last byte.. you must zero the ip so the netmask will do it.. it's different when you configure your NIC
[01:24] <transgress> kILLusion: you could try booting into a livecd, and viewing the logs
[01:24] <lufis> kILLusion: ok... try this: at boot, press esc to enter the grub menu. when it comes up, select the longest line and press "e", remove the words "splash" and press "b"
[01:24] <tesuki> PriceChild: is it so har d to give me a name
[01:24] <SamePaul> transgress: I installed driver for Intel 2200BG (iwp2200) but it does not load firmware, since it requires hotplug service
[01:24] <transgress> geeksauce: I forget.  i hurt my back at work today and had to go to the hospital
[01:25] <subkelvin> geeksauce, short answer: when you put this on a server/daemon process you zero the ip :D
[01:25] <kILLusion> ok
[01:25] <PriceChild> tesuki, I was referring to how to spam like the above when you asked how
[01:25] <lufis> kILLusion: that will boot up without the progress bar
[01:25] <geeksauce> transgress, good stuff apparently, haha
[01:25] <blaze> morgan, i can't believe you haven't tried apt-get
[01:25] <blaze> that should be the first thing you try
[01:25] <PriceChild> tesuki, I was referring to how to spam like the above when you asked how
[01:25] <PriceChild> whoops
[01:25] <tehxed> gyaresu, ...?
[01:25] <blaze> apt-get install automatix2
[01:25] <PriceChild> didn't mean to re-send sorry
[01:26] <tehxed> gyaresu, how do i show to you that wireless is not connected via the terminal or any other way?
[01:26] <blaze> you don't need the site to be up for apt-get. That's the beauty of it.
[01:26] <geeksauce> subkelvin, ok i'll try that... do you know where i can get the driver for xp?
[01:26] <tesuki> PriceChild: too spam as above has no reason no.
[01:26] <gyaresu> tehxed: no-ones talking. So I reckon you should install 'network-manager'.
[01:26] <tehxed> gyaresu, ...I think I've tried this.
[01:26] <subkelvin> geeksauce, don't know.. maybe it's on the xp installation.. i'm almost sure xp have this driver on it's install disk.. but isn't installed by default
[01:26] <morgan> it still sucks the site is gone....that guy did good work....
[01:26] <tehxed> I..hold on
[01:27] <dejx> helo
[01:27] <SamePaul> transgress: Or maybe it is not the problem... But I'm close to smash this NB! I'm f***g 4 hours with wireless and can't get it working!
[01:27] <dejx> what's the command to choose what env will load when you type startx (gnome or kde or xfce or fluxbox,...)
[01:27] <gyaresu> tehxed: It's cool. I'm trying to find a simple GUI solution for you. What encryption do you use on the access point?
[01:27] <dejx> xwmconfig or something
[01:27] <blaze> exactly
[01:27] <dejx> ?
[01:27] <tesuki> PriceChild: so i want too know how to do it. which would let me gain access to that do it my self. and useless knowledge is always funny
[01:27] <gemini9> am struggling with Opera browser...
[01:27] <subkelvin> dejx, it's the ~/.xinitrc file
[01:27] <dejx> subkelvin,  i dont have such file
[01:28] <gemini9> in term mode...got to install--help... listed file names..
[01:28] <tehxed> gyaresu, no encryption. mac address filter.
[01:28] <tehxed> gyaresu, I think that's the right response. It's got no security
[01:28] <transgress> SamePaul: eh i'm trying to find some info
[01:28] <transgress> hold up
[01:28] <gemini9> i'm a former windoze user, trying to win this thing
[01:28] <dejx> brb
[01:28] <patrick_> why is my wireless so slow?
[01:28] <dejx> killing x
[01:28] <tehxed> gyaresu, ..and I've enabled the mac address for the wireless card
[01:28] <subkelvin> well.. if you do "echo "fluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc" and type "xinit" it will open X with fluxbox
[01:28] <QuanChi2> hey
[01:28] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://download.yousendit.com/5056D29A250E8356
[01:29] <QuanChi2> hey
[01:29] <QuanChi2> i need help
[01:29] <patrick_> ask your question
[01:29] <QuanChi2> i'm trying to make a dual boot
[01:29] <arrenlex> !ask | QuanChi2
[01:29] <ubotu> QuanChi2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <SamePaul> transgress: alright. Send me private message if you fund something
[01:29] <davidwinter> I can't boot from a CD or Floppy. I can't change the boot order either in BIOS--don't know the password. Is it possible to remove Windows somehow so that the hdd doesn't boot and then moves onto the CDrom drive which will allow me to install Ubuntu?
[01:29] <patrick_> someone help me? my wireless is slow
[01:29] <davidwinter> the boot order is 1) Floppy, 2) HDD, 3) CD-ROM
[01:29] <QuanChi2> for a partition and the lowest memory i can give the partition is 57.2GB
[01:30] <lufis> davidwinter: maybe remove the pwd jumper on your mobo?
[01:30] <QuanChi2> i don't want to give it that much.. i wan't to give it 30 gigs..
[01:30] <transgress> patrick_: need more info than that buddy... like information about your wireless would be good
[01:30] <lufis> davidwinter: if it has one, that is
[01:30] <blaze> QuanChi2, you can resize your partitions
[01:30] <QuanChi2> how?
[01:30] <blaze> durring the install phase
[01:30] <gyaresu> tehxed: yeah. right. Just saw you picture.
[01:30] <davidwinter> lufis: it's an old Dell laptop, and I don't really want to go lurking around inside
[01:30] <transgress> davidwinter: if it goes to floppy first why can't you boot from floppy?
[01:30] <Jejem> hi guys, someone can help me with a edgy > feisty upgrade trouble ?
[01:30] <davidwinter> transgress: no floppy drive
[01:30] <blaze> Jejem whats wrong?
[01:30] <lufis> davidwinter: oh, nevermind then
[01:30] <transgress> davidwinter: ah heh.
[01:31] <davidwinter> it has Windows ME currently installed on it :(
[01:31] <transgress> Jejem: try ubuntu+1
[01:31] <davidwinter> and I just want to get Ubuntu up and running
[01:31] <gyaresu> tehxed: can you post the output of 'iwlist eth0 scan'
[01:31] <QuanChi2> blaze
[01:31] <QuanChi2> HOW
[01:31] <lufis> davidwinter: just wipe windows i guess, it will default to the cdrom hopefully
[01:31] <transgress> davidwinter: you don't want windows at all?
[01:31] <blaze> !partition
[01:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:31] <davidwinter> transgress: nope
[01:31] <Jejem> thx transgress
[01:31] <davidwinter> just Ubuntu
[01:31] <patrick_> transgress - dell laptop d610-- just installed linux.. i didnt install any drivers cause i dont know how.. though wireless is working out of the box just really slow
[01:31] <blaze> !partition QuanChi2
[01:32] <blaze> aww
[01:32] <patrick_> mobile 915 mb wireless card
[01:32] <blaze> !tell QuanChi2 partition
[01:32] <gemini9> i put Kubuntu on this, removed windoze completely
[01:32] <blaze> never works
[01:32] <patrick_> 915gm*
[01:32] <blaze> ;(
[01:32] <gemini9> 1.0 GB Ram, 250 HD :)
[01:32] <QuanChi2> blaze, look, i just want to make the partition with 20gb
[01:32] <tehxed> gyaresu, eth0      No scan results
[01:32] <QuanChi2> before installing ubuntu...
[01:32] <rkyraccoon55> i have kind of a complicated question
[01:33] <gyaresu> tehxed: So you must have set the essid "virus" manually?
[01:33] <tehxed> I believe so
[01:33] <rkyraccoon55> anyone got time? im sure its an easy answer
[01:33] <tehxed> Should I remove it?
[01:33] <morgan> is there an alternative to automatix....???....
[01:33] <QuanChi2> blaze
[01:33] <QuanChi2> you there?
[01:33] <blaze> QuanChi2, What?
[01:33] <Slart> morgan: there's easy-ubuntu
[01:33] <gyaresu> tehxed: There is no viewably wireless networks. That's the problem.
[01:33] <linux_alien> hi, can anyone point me in the right direction please? i'm trying to install the ati drivers and have to re-compile the kernel but when i run make it says - No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.
[01:33] <transgress> davidwinter: try this page http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/2005/01/09/ubuntu-netinstall-without-cdrom/
[01:33] <QuanChi2> all i want to do is make a partiton of 20gb before i install ubuntu
[01:33] <blaze> QuanChi2,  Okay, what operating system are you using now
[01:33] <morgan> ty....
[01:34] <gemini9> why only 20GB?
[01:34] <QuanChi2> Windows
[01:34] <tehxed> gyaresu,  Alright, the SSID .. IS broadcasting.. the channel is set to auto.
[01:34] <QuanChi2> I'm on a ubuntu live cd right now
[01:34] <gyaresu> QuanChi2: you can just use gparted from a livecd
[01:34] <rkyraccoon55> how do you use files from a different hd?
[01:34] <transgress> patrick_: why type of wifi card is it?  and what version of ubuntu
[01:34] <QuanChi2> i don't want to mess up my Windows partition
[01:34] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: are they windows files?
[01:34] <Slart> rkyraccoon55: other hard drives are either in the /mnt/ dir or in the /media/ dir
[01:34] <patrick_> checking transgress.. thanks for the help!
[01:34] <blaze> It wolnt
[01:34] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: its music
[01:34] <QuanChi2> ok
[01:34] <themachine> how can I play sounds from multiple programs at once?
[01:34] <gyaresu> QuanChi2: Ubuntu should find it and add it to the boot loader automatically.
[01:34] <QuanChi2> how do i find gparted, then
[01:34] <blaze> you have to resize your windows partition if you want another one
[01:35] <gemini9> yikes, sharing it with windoze
[01:35] <tehxed> gyaresu, you have aim or anything? this is sort of getting really tiring
[01:35] <rkyraccoon55> slart: thanks again
[01:35] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: yeah, but the filesystem has to be readable regardless. what is the filesystem?
[01:35] <QuanChi2> i've never done a partition before
[01:35] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: yea, i usually use it with windows
[01:35] <transgress> themachine: what type of soundcard?  it should be supported by dmix by now, but on some cards that use dmix java and a few others fsck the sound up
[01:35] <stonarmusic> anyone help me with compiling a program, 'gtk-gnutella'
[01:35] <geeksauce> subkelvin, nah i can't find a free client
[01:35] <blaze> go to applications --> accessories --> terminal and then type "gparted"
[01:35] <SamePaul> transgress: so you've got something?
[01:35] <gyaresu> tehxed: Yeah but then you won't get the benefit of others being right whilst I'm being wrong ;)
[01:35] <transgress> SamePaul: nope.  best i can see is it should be working, but i'm still looking.  is it a pcmcia card?
[01:35] <SpamKids> I have installed a SSH Server, all right? So, when I do a port scan from my computer, the port 22 is open, all right! But, when I try a port scan from other computer of internet, the port 22 don't apear. =( Only my 80 of Apache. Why? I supose that must exist any config file that authorizat the extern access. Anybody knows what can I do?
[01:35] <transgress> or usb?
[01:35] <themachine> transgress, no soundcard, integrated audio
[01:36] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: it doesnt have windows installed on it but i use it as an extra hd for my windows
[01:36] <transgress> eh same difference, but what type
[01:36] <eromero> hello everyone, i'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 on my desk but i already have a linux system there, so i want to select the partition where its going to be installed. How ever when i do that on the "Prepare mount points" screen i get an error that says "No root filesystem"
[01:36] <transgress> themachine: ^
[01:36] <SamePaul> transgress:  No. It is mini-PCI
[01:36] <QuanChi2> omfg
[01:36] <QuanChi2> i've never partitioned before, this is too advanced
[01:36] <eromero> what em i doing wrong
[01:36] <gyaresu> tehxed: So silly question. The wireless light is on the router and you are relatively close to the router with your laptop?
[01:36] <tehxed> gyaresu, worse comes to shove? install xp again..
[01:36] <roho> i have a laptop. how do i find out my video card for the beryl config file?
[01:36] <transgress> QuanChi2: WWJDFAKB
[01:36] <transgress> partitioning is teh easy.  just read a howot
[01:36] <transgress> howto even
[01:36] <tehxed> gyaresu, not a silly question. i'm about.. 5 feet. and I know you're thinking "is it a wireless router?".. yes, yes it is
[01:37] <gyaresu> tehxed: nah. You've got the wireless device recognised. That's the hard bit.
[01:37] <themachine> transgress, I'll try dmix, thanks
[01:37] <linux_alien> :(
[01:37] <QuanChi2> i right click the ntfs partition and click New?
[01:37] <transgress> and then after you get your partitions setup, ubuntu installed... then build a kernel
[01:37] <QuanChi2> is that how i do it?
[01:37] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: it's more than likely ntfs. google for "ntfs ubuntu" to get a guide to install ntfs drivers. i've never done it myself so i dunno
[01:37] <transgress> themachine: it should be running already
[01:37] <subkelvin> geeksauce, there's a download from microsoft called "UNIX services for windows".. that may do it, and it's free.. but MS :(
[01:37] <transgress> themachine: but what programs are not playing sounds at multiple times?
[01:37] <SamePaul> transgress: I gues that problem is in HOTPLUG because in example syslogs I see more prints than I see on my ubuntu
[01:37] <Xzenome> transgress, don't say teh it makes people hate you. :P
[01:37] <SpamKids> QuanChi2: you are talking with me?
[01:37] <QuanChi2> anyone
[01:37] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: thanks
[01:38] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: no prob. in fact, hold on, i'll find one for you
[01:38] <gyaresu> tehxed: nah. I was thinking. Maybe you're not 'broadcasting' the essid or maybe the wireless part is turned of in the router. "Check that it's plugged in"
[01:38] <transgress> Xzenome: but teh drugs won't let me stopxors
[01:38] <tehxed> gyaresu, xanatus showed me how to get the mac address of the router to be recognized manually
[01:38] <themachine> transgress, xmms can play, but a flash movie on a web page wont. same situation whenever playing a video and trying to play music at once
[01:38] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: thanks again
[01:38] <tehxed> gyaresu, the wireless..?
[01:38] <tehxed> gyaresu,  ..it is
[01:38] <themachine> only one at a time
[01:38] <geeksauce> subkelvin, yeah i'm looking at that now... i think it might be for doing the opposite of what i'm going for though
[01:38] <transgress> themachine: what type of integrated audio?
[01:38] <rkyraccoon55> lufis: without this channel i'de have given up on ubuntu
[01:38] <stonarmusic> It says I need the latest version of libxml2, and when apt-get it, it says that I have the latest version installed
[01:38] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[01:38] <lufis> rkyraccoon55: me too :P
[01:38] <themachine> transgress, intel
[01:38] <QuanChi2> i'm just trying to make a damn dual boot
[01:39] <subkelvin> see that url i PM to you..
[01:39] <transgress> themachine: i still need the model... i810?  hd?
[01:39] <linux_alien> help D-:
[01:39] <gyaresu> tehxed: Ditch the mac filtering for now me thinks. Log into the router and just set it to defaults (as far as wireless is concerned). Just see if you can see it then. Then we can worry about encryption.
[01:39] <SpamKids> People, exists some chanel to Ubuntu Filosofy?
[01:39] <gyaresu> tehxed: make sure the router is 'broadcasting essid'
[01:39] <themachine> transgress PIV
[01:40] <tehxed> gyaresu, double checking
[01:40] <gyaresu> tehxed: I'll go grind some beans... back soon.
[01:40] <tehxed> gyaresu, the thing is... the router is roommate's.. =\
[01:41] <nutterpc> tehxed:  hit it with a hammer
[01:41] <gyaresu> tehxed: tell him that mac filtering is totally pointless. Under linux you can just see who's connected and then change your mac to theirs. Voila! Router hacked...
[01:41] <stonarmusic> anyone help me with compiling gtk-gnutella? It says I need the latest version of libxml2, and when apt-get it, it says that I have the latest version installed
[01:41] <Keyseir> I just put together a new computer, currently running off the livecd and it seems to be working great. I put in the HD I was running off of before, but I can't seem to boot off of it or see it as existing from the livecd. The computer is noticing the HD at startup.
[01:41] <nutterpc> it'll work then
[01:41] <tehxed> gyaresu, he's not home, so I'm going to try this without mac filter anyways..
[01:41] <tehxed> then set it back
[01:41] <subkelvin> stonarmusic, are you apt-getting the libxml dev version?
[01:41] <transgress> themachine: that is the processor chip.  /sbin/lspci | grep audio
[01:42] <subkelvin> stonarmusic, apt-get install libxml2-dev?
[01:42] <nutterpc> Keyseir: done a bios reset?
[01:42] <stonarmusic> subkelvin- not sure, how do i check?
[01:42] <stonarmusic> subkelvin - no i didnt do it like that, should i try that?
[01:42] <Keyseir> nutterpc, No. New computer, it's recognizing the HD. Why should I reset the bios?
[01:42] <geeksauce> subkelvin, wow huge file and i'm already maxing out my bandwidth with torrents and usenet.  where is the smb.conf file?  i searched the whole hard drive and it didn't return any results
[01:42] <patrick_> transgress Intel(R) PRO Wireless 2915ABG  edgy eft 6.10
[01:42] <subkelvin> stonarmusic, yes.. to compile you need the "-dev" version..
[01:42] <nutterpc> resetting the bios can sometimes help
[01:43] <nutterpc> clears all the settings
[01:43] <stonarmusic> subkelvin - k, thanks
[01:43] <subkelvin> geeksauce, /etc/samba/smb.conf maybe
[01:43] <nutterpc> boot with the default mobo settings, then if it sees it, adjust the bios to your liking
[01:43] <QuanChi2> Do i click "Resize/Move" when i right click my main partition?
[01:43] <QuanChi2> do i click "New"?
[01:43] <QuanChi2> -.-
[01:43] <Keyseir> nutterpc, the hd was set as slave on the old machine though I believe Everything was installed on it. I switched it to Master with the jumpers, could the problem have something to do with being installed as IDE Slave previously?
[01:44] <themachine> transgress, I have /bin/lspci , not sure if its right
[01:44] <nutterpc> shouldn't make a different
[01:44] <nutterpc> difference*
[01:44] <transgress> themachine: yeah that should work
[01:44] <Keyseir> alright, I'll try resetting the bios.
[01:44] <themachine> ah great. Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:44] <gyaresu> tehxed: I think I've seen it before but it is weird that your wireless device has shown up as eth0. That usually means you have no ethernet device. Which is odd.
[01:45] <transgress> themachine: edgy?
[01:45] <gyaresu> tehxed: Did you check that the essid is broadcasting?
[01:45] <tehxed> yeah
[01:45] <tehxed> sec
[01:45] <tehxed> let me show you
[01:45] <themachine> no, I mean it worked
[01:45] <transgress> patrick_: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156930
[01:45] <up365> How do I set XMMS to play CDs and get rid of SoundJuicer ?
[01:45] <themachine> do you think its supported transgress?
[01:46] <patrick_> transgress thank you.. checking
[01:46] <transgress> themachine: i know it is.  i use it on my laptop
[01:46] <nutterpc> set ubuntu to launch xmms when an audio cd is inserted
[01:46] <nutterpc> up365:
[01:46] <nutterpc> ^^
[01:46] <themachine> ah, so what mixer would allow me to do multiple programs at once?
[01:46] <geeksauce> subkelvin, i don't see anything in that file that would require auth to view shares.  in fact, i see the exact opposite
[01:47] <SamePaul> transgress: but it uses hotplug for firmware too!
[01:47] <arrenlex> What's -r do?
[01:47] <subkelvin> geeksauce, on your share you see a line like "guest ok = yes" ?
[01:47] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://download.yousendit.com/CB58C6237A324439  Check it
[01:47] <themachine> I don't have dmix running. I did a ps -e | grep dmix
[01:47] <computerhermit> this is wonderful
[01:47] <transgress> themachine: what version of ubuntu are you using?  it should by default.  you can build alsa if you like and use the alsa you built instead of the one in the kernel
[01:48] <tehxed> gyaresu, I also checked to see if it was being picked up on a Windows machine.. ..it was being picked up
[01:48] <nutterpc> what is computerhermit?
[01:48] <computerhermit> this OS
[01:48] <nutterpc> :)
[01:48] <up365> I thought thats what I did in system-preferences-removable drives and media when I placed this command xmms %U nutterpc
[01:48] <themachine> what command tells me about my ubuntu?
[01:48] <transgress> themachine: it's part of alsa... it's running
[01:48] <nutterpc> distro u mean :P
[01:48] <computerhermit> I had no luck getting online with my wireless card
[01:48] <arrenlex> !version | themachine
[01:48] <ubotu> themachine: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[01:48] <subkelvin> geeksauce, your shares should be on the end of the file
[01:48] <computerhermit> but weith this version it works
[01:48] <tehxed> gyaresu, I also checked to see if it was being picked up on a Windows machine.. ..it was being picked up
[01:49] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://download.yousendit.com/CB58C6237A324439  Check it
[01:49] <themachine> version 5.10
[01:49] <gyaresu> tehxed: Yep got it.
[01:49] <nutterpc> sometimes everything just needs a helping hand *hands up365 painkillers*
[01:49] <nutterpc> lol
[01:49] <gyaresu> tehxed: hmmm.
[01:49] <lufis> themachine: whoa, any reason you're still using that?
[01:50] <bkudria> i was upgrading to feisty from edgy and it errored out when installing libc - and now all my programs segfault, including apt-get.  what can i do?  i'm booted into a livecd, and i can chroot into the system, but i cannot boot directly into the system.  what can i do?
[01:50] <geeksauce> subkelvin, there are three lines that say "guest ok=no" in three different sections (netlogon, profiles, and print$), but they are all commented out
[01:50] <up365> nutterpc, in other words you dont know
[01:50] <themachine> ah, is there a command like apt-get update my entire system?
[01:50] <nutterpc> I would have to have a look man
[01:50] <themachine> including ubuntu
[01:50] <arrenlex> !upgrade | themachine
[01:50] <ubotu> themachine: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:50] <nutterpc> gimme a few mins to finish me lunch
[01:50] <SamePaul> how to install damned HOTPLUG?
[01:50] <lufis> SamePaul: what's the issue?
[01:50] <subkelvin> geeksauce, ok.. now find your share.. and put a line that says "guest ok = yes" on that.. and check that "writable = no" so noone can delete your files :D
[01:50] <tehxed> gyaresu, ..so..what say you?
[01:50] <gyaresu> tehxed: sorry, could you post your lspci again please.
[01:50] <themachine> ok I guess I can upgrade my whole system
[01:51] <computerhermit> I cant belive Iam online with Ubuntu
[01:51] <tehxed> gyaresu, gladly
[01:51] <tehxed> gyaresu,  sec
[01:51] <lufis> themachine: i'd actually suggest waiting until feisty is released if you don;t mind waiting until april
[01:51] <gyaresu> tehxed: kettle...brb
[01:51] <lufis> themachine: but yeah, 5.10 is pretty old
[01:51] <themachine> one whole month! ;)
[01:51] <SamePaul> lufis: Instruction on install of IWP2200 says "copy firmware to /lib/hotplug/firmware
[01:52] <computerhermit> no drivers no notheing and I was subjecting myself to nukerosoft soo long because my wireless card wasent about to connect iam so happy
[01:52] <up365> nutterpc, I replaced the soundjuicer command in Play audio CDs when inserted with the XMMS command
[01:52] <SamePaul> lufis: but i DON'T have /lib/hotplug
[01:52] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369748  my lspci
[01:52] <computerhermit> I got one problem
[01:52] <colbert> Can someone please help me to access my XP partition in Ubuntu??
[01:52] <lufis> SamePaul: hmm... i don't know, that's not my area of knowledge. try googling the hardware name and "ubuntu"?
[01:52] <arrenlex> colbert: read-only, or writing also?
[01:53] <colbert> arrenlex: Both would be preferred
[01:53] <bkudria> i was upgrading to feisty from edgy and it errored out when installing libc - and now all my programs segfault, including apt-get.  what can i do?  i'm booted into a livecd, and i can chroot into the system, but i cannot boot directly into the system.  what can i do?
[01:53] <Tonren> Is there an application that will display informatin like window type & class for whatever my mouse is currently hovering over?
[01:53] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | colbert
[01:53] <ubotu> colbert: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:53] <SamePaul> lufis: I'd better hand myself
[01:53] <arrenlex> Tonren: xprop
[01:53] <SamePaul> hang
[01:53] <computerhermit> when I updated with the updatemanger after everything was installed  my wireless card was gone so I booted to the other Kernl
[01:53] <colbert> arrenlex: thank you
[01:53] <lufis> SamePaul: nah ;) one sec
[01:53] <arrenlex> yw
[01:53] <Tonren> arrenlex: Not what I click on - what the mouse is over
[01:53] <geeksauce> subkelvin, there is already a line that says "public=yes"... what does that refer to?
[01:53] <Tonren> arrenlex: I'm trying to get info on what type of window the KMenu is
[01:53] <arrenlex> Tonren: Can't you click on it?
[01:54] <nutterpc> up365: having a look now
[01:54] <computerhermit> and now everything fine with older
[01:54] <Tonren> arrenlex: No, xprop will give me the info for the kicker.
[01:54] <SamePaul> lufis: I'm fighting it 4 hours. One second is reasinable enough :)
[01:54] <subkelvin> geeksauce, well.. don't know really :D.. let me see
[01:54] <up365> nutterpc, thanks
[01:54] <Tonren> arrenlex: And I can't think of a way to trigger xprop while Kmenu has already been opened
[01:54] <SamePaul> reasonable
[01:54] <quanchi2> k
[01:54] <quanchi2> guys
[01:54] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369748  my lspci
[01:54] <computerhermit> anyone see what Iam typeing
[01:54] <computerhermit> am I here
[01:54] <quanchi2> How do i create a Dual Boot with GParted?  Any tutorials?
[01:54] <computerhermit> hello
[01:54] <Keyseir> nutterpc: I went into bios and loaded defaults. Started up, the motherboard makes One beep while it sort of "passes up" booting on the HD, and then switches to the CD.
[01:54] <quanchi2> yes
[01:54] <kitche> computerhermit: yes
[01:54] <quanchi2> i do
[01:55] <gyaresu> computerhermit: yes
[01:55] <khaije1> whats the method of choice for getting remote desktop w/ sounds ? any suggestions?
[01:55] <lufis> SamePaul: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:55] <subkelvin> geeksauce, well.. public is the same as guest ok.. maybe you need to put public on the netlogin.. i'm not that good on samba :D
[01:55] <gyaresu> tehxed: checking...
[01:55] <computerhermit> Iam also dule booting with Extra Problems (XP)
[01:55] <SamePaul> lufis: 6.10
[01:55] <quanchi2> i don't know how to dual boot with gparted.. that's my problem
[01:55] <computerhermit> I just used free space
[01:56] <SamePaul> lufis: kernel  2.6.17
[01:56] <gyaresu> tehxed: so what about the output of 'dmesg |grep eth'
[01:56] <computerhermit> let me see what kernel Iam useing
[01:56] <computerhermit> this is great
[01:56] <Tonren> arrenlex: Any ideas?
[01:56] <geeksauce> subkelvin, netlogon is for domain-controlled networks... my LAN does not use domains
[01:57] <LordUltimaDavid> is OpenSUSE's site down?
[01:57] <subkelvin> geeksauce, as i told you.. i'm not that good with samba.. :).. the public option should do it for you...
[01:57] <kitche> LordUltimaDavid: how are we suppose to know this is a #ubuntu channel
[01:57] <transgress> LordUltimaDavid: why would you come in here just to ask thta?
[01:57] <transgress> LordUltimaDavid: looks like it.  maybe it got hacked again.
[01:57] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://pastebin.ca/369756
[01:57] <lufis> SamePaul: I don't know. try creating the directory i guess?
[01:58] <lufis> SamePaul: sudo mkdir /lib/hotplug
[01:58] <quanchi2> omfg
[01:58] <gyaresu> tehxed: Have you google'd for your wireless card? I found some interesting stuff. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[01:58] <quanchi2> this is too hard
[01:58] <LordUltimaDavid> what are the major differences between openSUSE and ubuntu, i have been using ubuntu for 1.5 years now
[01:58] <geeksauce> subkelvin, ok hopefully someone in here is a samba buff :)  thanks for helping me though
[01:58] <SamePaul> lufis: I made it and copied fw as it written. But wlan does not appear anyway
[01:58] <arrenlex> Tonren: Still there? Sorry, I accidentally pressed the shortcut that turns off my computer, rather than the button that opens the k menu. xD
[01:58] <arrenlex> Tonren: Here is xprop for the k menu: http://arrenlex.ls.la/kmenu
[01:59] <lufis> SamePaul: oh, sucks. i have no idea, a google search doesn't bring up anything helpful
[01:59] <geeksauce> i need some help configuring samba to allow XP boxes to connect to my SMB shares without prompting for auth
[01:59] <SamePaul> lufis: scheisse...  :'(
[01:59] <tehxed> gyaresu, tried it already
[01:59] <tehxed> gyaresu, done it
[01:59] <arrenlex> LordUltimaDavid: Ubuntu is based on debian, and so it uses .deb packages. openSuse is based on, well, Suse, which uses .rpm packages.
[01:59] <transgress> LordUltimaDavid: well there are a lot more gui's for crap in opensuse.  i mean guis to set up everything.  but they are all slow, and package management is the slowest i have ever experienced in any distro in opensuse.  not to badmouth it.  i'm using it on this box.  for a little bit longer.  but you have to hack around more stuff in opensuse, media playback is a bit more annoying, but 64bit setup is nicer than ubuntu, but not as fast.
[01:59] <lufis> :(
[01:59] <nutterpc> up365: got it working
[02:00] <subkelvin> geeksauce, try to use "security = share" instead of the default "security = user" and restart samba...
[02:00] <bengoodger> hello. can someone please help me reinstalling grub from a livecd? guides are non-helpful
[02:00] <Tonren> arrenlex: How'd you get it?
[02:00] <nutterpc> now just workin out up365 how to get it to autoplay
[02:00] <gyaresu> tehxed: You've tried it? That means you are using ndiswrapper with binary drivers?
[02:00] <arrenlex> Tonren: Launched xprop > kmenu in the terminal, then pressed ctrl+esc to open kmenu, then clicked it.
[02:00] <computerhermit> the live cd was cool
[02:00] <nutterpc> is manual load/play ok with you?
[02:00] <tehxed> gyaresu, when I try to do modprobe ndiswrapper ...
[02:00] <LordUltimaDavid> transgres: thanks
[02:01] <tehxed> gyaresu, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[02:01] <SamePaul> lufis: i tried to install hotplug, but make install failed. have any idea how to overcome?
[02:01] <LucianSolaris> HEY, DOES anyone have any idea how to get Kaffe/java to use a higher JRE so it quits erroring on me when I try to execute my java program: "java -jar proggie.jar"?  It uses the Scanner class but JRE 1.x doesn't have Scanner, only JRE 5 and up.
[02:01] <gyaresu> tehxed: sudo?
[02:01] <Tonren> arrenlex: Weird... it looks like it has no window type??
[02:01] <geeksauce> subkelvin, what will that do?
[02:01] <lufis> SamePaul: do you have the /lib/firmware directory? i have it on my system
[02:01] <tehxed> gyaresu, already root but will try anyways
[02:01] <transgress> tehxed: rmmod your other wifi driver, set up ndiswrapper with drivers first, and then load it.
[02:01] <gyaresu> tehxed: no diff.
[02:01] <tehxed> gyaresu, same error
[02:01] <bengoodger> I've installed windows and cannot make my linux box boot
[02:01] <SamePaul> lufis: yes
[02:01] <At0mic_PC> Hey guys anyone know where they write greasemonkey scripts?
[02:01] <bengoodger> even though they're on different hard disks
[02:01] <transgress> tehxed: like go through and ndiswrapper -i file.inf ndiswrapper -l ndiswrapper -m then modprobe it
[02:01] <tehxed> gyaresu, what?
[02:02] <jrib> At0mic_PC: userscripts.org ?
[02:02] <mau> anybody have a preferred laptop to run ubuntu?
[02:02] <subkelvin> geeksauce, it will tell samba to enforce security based on the share the client is conecting to.. and not the user that is connecting.. as your samba is only for your LAN that should be ok
[02:02] <tehxed> transgress, I ..you're going to have to bring it down a notch
[02:02] <lufis> SamePaul: ok, just a min. let me figure this out
[02:02] <tehxed> gyaresu,  what do you mean "no diff."
[02:02] <At0mic_PC> jrib: Thanks
[02:02] <gyaresu> tehxed: OK. This is the same problem as the sound. You need to be more explicit with what you've already done. Otherwise the person helping you is asuming that you're starting from scratch.
[02:02] <transgress> tehxed: okay.  first, do you have the windows drivers for your card that you are planning on using?
[02:02] <SamePaul> lufis: no porblem!
[02:02] <tehxed> gyaresu, ah, i'm sorry
[02:02] <lkraider> LucianSolaris: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[02:02] <lufis> SamePaul: what's the contents of the directory that you downloaded in the firmware package?
[02:02] <nutterpc> up365: you there still man?
[02:02] <subkelvin> !msn
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[02:02] <tehxed> gyaresu, I've tried one other thing. I'll give you a link. sorry
[02:02] <gyaresu> tehxed: no difference between sudo and running as root for modprobing.
[02:03] <up365> nutterpc, I with you man
[02:03] <tehxed> gyaresu, http://my.opera.com/dantesoft/blog/show.dml/286557
[02:03] <bengoodger> the guides on reinstalling grub don't work: can someone please assist me?
[02:03] <geeksauce> subkelvin, but user settings are configured public=yes, so why would it make a difference?
[02:03] <tehxed> gyaresu, tried this too http://my.opera.com/dantesoft/blog/show.dml/286557
[02:03] <vaxzilla> hi
[02:03] <tehxed> transgress, on a usb i do..
[02:03] <arrenlex> !hi | vaxzilla
[02:03] <ubotu> vaxzilla: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:03] <nutterpc> pm up365
[02:03] <quanchi2> can someone please work with me personally to teach me how to make a dual boot?  I'm afraid of deleting my primary partition.  If anyone can forward me to a good guide or walk me through, I'd appreciate it.
[02:03] <jamesbrose> how can I chmod a big directory full of lots of files?
[02:03] <vaxzilla> i am new to opera but i think i like it already
[02:03] <jrib> jamesbrose: chmod
[02:04] <bengoodger> jamesbrose: -R for recursive
[02:04] <arrenlex> jamesbrose: chmod -R <whatever> <dir>
[02:04] <vaxzilla>  '<
[02:04] <jamesbrose> Its over 3000 files and it won't let me :(
[02:04] <LucianSolaris> lkraider, i'm getting this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file
[02:04] <Hoxxin> vaxzilla: word :D
[02:04] <quanchi2> ?? anyone?
[02:04] <arrenlex> jamesbrose: "won't let me"?
[02:04] <jrib> jamesbrose: use find and xargs
[02:04] <transgress> tehxed: okay well you need to go ahead and use install those drivers in ndiswrapper before it will modprobe for some reason... so go to the directory of the mounted usbstick (probably /media/usbstick) and ndiswrapper -i windowsdriver.inf and it will install them
[02:04] <jamesbrose> [root@localhost Music] # chmod 777 *
[02:04] <jamesbrose> bash: /bin/chmod: Argument list too long
[02:04] <jamesbrose> I get that
[02:04] <LucianSolaris> lkraider, my jar was written in bluej and compiled (jar-ified) in netbeans 5.5
[02:04] <gyaresu> tehxed: ahahahaha. Yes. _That_ is pertinent information :)
[02:04] <geeksauce> subkelvin, "security=user" is commented out anyway
[02:04] <quanchi2> can someone please work with me personally to teach me how to make a dual boot?  I'm afraid of deleting my primary partition.  If anyone can forward me to a good guide or walk me through, I'd appreciate it.
[02:04] <subkelvin> geeksauce, ok.. last try.. googling for it i found someone saying about you needing to tell samba about the guest account.. but i think you need help from a samba guy :D
[02:04] <arrenlex> jamesbrose: Because you don't follow instructions.
[02:04] <lkraider> LucianSolaris: did you do the command I posted?
[02:04] <arrenlex> (18:04:05) arrenlex: jamesbrose: chmod -R <whatever> <dir>
[02:04] <lufis> SamePaul: did you download the driver package?
[02:04] <LucianSolaris> lkraider, yes
[02:04] <bengoodger> quanchi2: use a partitioner to resize the partition, and then make a couple of new ones as appropriate in the empty space
[02:05] <vaxzilla> i am new to opera browser you think i will like it?
[02:05] <tehxed> eeerr...
[02:05] <LucianSolaris> lkraider, netbeans uses JRE6
[02:05] <cmh0101> anyone know of a good  avi to dvd program for linux?
[02:05] <kitche> jamesbrose: sudo if the files are owned by root
[02:05] <quanchi2> vax, i have no idea what you're talking about.
[02:05] <tehxed> gyaresu, sorry about that.
[02:05] <lkraider> LucianSolaris: you installed java 6?
[02:05] <SamePaul> lufis: Yes. driver 1.2.1 and fw 3.0
[02:05] <quanchi2> You're not saying much
[02:05] <nutterpc> up365: if you can pm me I'll show ya what to put to make xmms also see the drive
[02:05] <gyaresu> tehxed: s'aight.
[02:05] <jrib> jamesbrose: what directory is this btw?
[02:05] <quanchi2> I'm new to partitioning
[02:05] <LucianSolaris> lkraider, yes, that's how netbeans used it..
[02:05] <bengoodger> could someone _please_ help me reinstall grub? I really need access to my data
[02:05] <jamesbrose> jrib, lots of music files
[02:05] <lkraider> LucianSolaris: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[02:05] <Hoxxin> vaxzilla: once u get used to it u never wanna go back
[02:05] <tehxed> transgress, extracting the drivers right now
[02:05] <quanchi2> I'm trying to use GParted
[02:05] <vaxzilla> you know the web browser named opera
[02:05] <lufis> SamePaul: okay... what's in the firmware package? list the files if there's not too many
[02:05] <kitche> vaxzilla: opera is good if you don't want to use firefox it hogs memory sometimes firefox does
[02:05] <vaxzilla> okay
[02:05] <Regner> what command can I use to find free space and used space ?
[02:06] <up365> nutterpc,  OK
[02:06] <At0mic_PC> jrib:  http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/7122 I think this is what I was looking for. Thanks again.
[02:06] <LucianSolaris> lkraider, thanks, it works
[02:06] <jrib> jamesbrose: do you know how to use find to accomplish this?
[02:06] <jamesbrose> I want to chown them all to user 'james' and chmod to 777, jrib
[02:06] <lkraider> Regner: df -h
[02:06] <jamesbrose> jrib, nope :*
[02:06] <vaxzilla>  8-)
[02:06] <lkraider> LucianSolaris: :D
[02:06] <quanchi2> Can someone please work with me personally to teach me how to make a dual boot?  I'm afraid of deleting my primary partition.  If anyone can forward me to a good guide or walk me through, I'd appreciate it.  I'm trying to use GParted.
[02:06] <SamePaul> lufis: ipw2200-bss.fw ipw2200-ibss.fw ipw2200-sniffer.fw
[02:06] <jrib> jamesbrose: why do you want music files to be executable?
[02:06] <bengoodger> jamesbrose: chmod -R 777 james:jrib <directory> I think
[02:06] <SamePaul> lufis: and license :)
[02:06] <geeksauce> subkelvin, i appreciate your help, but every time you tell me to seek help from a samba guy, i ask with no nick prefix, and you answer back again so people don't reply to my question as they think it's already being taken care of :)
[02:06] <transgress> tehxed: and do you have some other alternative driver that ubuntu is using now?  i forget what you said your card was... if so you need to rmmod otherdriver  and then blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:06] <bengoodger> quanchi2: what's the problem with gparted? you just click "resize"..
[02:06] <computerhermit> I have no sound
[02:07] <quanchi2> resize?
[02:07] <SwiftIRC041> Hey can someone help me really quick. I need to find some kind of installation guide based on ubuntu that can show me how to set up multibooting with Windows XP :P
[02:07] <quanchi2> that's it?
[02:07] <lufis> SamePaul: ok... where is the firmware package extracted to?
[02:07] <quanchi2> then what?
[02:07] <quanchi2> resize it to what?
[02:07] <kitche> !dualboot | SwiftIRC041
[02:07] <ubotu> SwiftIRC041: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:07] <SwiftIRC041> ty :)
[02:07] <subkelvin> geeksauce, ok.. i will keep my silence :D
, that worked :[] 
[02:07] <stonarmusic> here's my paste of my gtk-gnutella errors when i compile it:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7287/
[02:07] <bengoodger> quanchi2: yes, then you go click apply... then choose "guided partitioning into unallocated space" from the options
[02:07] <quanchi2> i need a partition for Ubtunu.  I want to give it 20GB
[02:07] <nutterpc> up365:  xmms -d /mnt/cdrom %d <--- chuck that in, see if it works for ya
[02:07] <computerhermit> when I try to login as su it sayes I entered the wrong password anyone have this problem?
[02:07] <nutterpc> its working for me
[02:07] <SamePaul> lufis: home/ipw/iwp2200-fw-3.0
[02:07] <geeksauce> subkelvin, haha thanks for trying though :)
[02:07] <jrib> !sudo | computerhermit
[02:07] <ubotu> computerhermit: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <bengoodger> jamesbrose: wow, I wasn't expecting that
[02:07] <arrenlex> !sudo | computerhermit
[02:08] <nutterpc> computerhermit: su hasn't got a password set
[02:08] <nutterpc> there's sudo su
[02:08] <arrenlex> *shakes fist* jriiiib! >=|
[02:08] <nutterpc> but not su, no password for that
[02:08] <computerhermit> thanks
[02:08] <bengoodger> could someone _please_ help me reinstall grub? I really do have to get at my data
[02:08] <nutterpc> you have to set that manually
[02:08] <tehxed> transgress, I was using the drivers from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[02:08] <gyaresu> tehxed: /etc/iftab cool. Didn't know that. I wondered about your dev names.
[02:08] <arrenlex> !grub | bengoodger
[02:08] <ubotu> bengoodger: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:08] <up365> nutterpc,  thanks trying now
[02:08] <jrib> jamesbrose: k, but realize it doesn't really make sense to have music files executable
[02:08] <lufis> SamePaul: okay. open up a terminal and run: "sudo cp /home/ipw/iwp2200-fw-3.0/*.fw /lib/firmware/2.6.20-8-generic"
[02:08] <bengoodger> arrenlex: as I have said perhaps ten times, the guides don't work
[02:09] <SamePaul> lufis:  one sec
[02:09] <lufis> k
[02:09] <transgress> tehxed: is that your card exactly?  i had a bcm4306 and those drivers wouldn't work for me at all.
[02:09] <geeksauce> can someone help me configure my SMB share to work without prompting for username and password in XP?
[02:09] <arrenlex> bengoodger: Wasn't paying attention. What error do you end up with?
[02:09] <nutterpc> up365: it showed my cdrom up straight away and I was able to select the songs I wanted to listen to
[02:09] <tehxed> I have the BCM4318
[02:09] <transgress> tehxed: then those should work
[02:09] <tehxed> transgress, I have the BCM4318
[02:09] <jamesbrose> jrib, for some reason Rythem box won't open them because of some permissions
[02:09] <jrib> jamesbrose: does it work now?
[02:09] <lufis> SamePaul: and if it gives you an error, change the kernel version to whatever you have. mine is probably different as i'm on feisty
[02:09] <gyaresu> tehxed: Driver problem. Definitely. The whole access point: invalid thing.
[02:09] <Regner> how can i change my host name from the cl ?
[02:09] <jamesbrose> jrib, no :( :P
[02:09] <tehxed> transgress, that tutorial is specifically for the bcm4318
[02:09] <transgress> jamesbrose: what are the permissions on the directory?
[02:09] <nutterpc> but the thing is too up365, in xmms you have to change a setting, the CD Audio plugin, you have to change the mount point to /media/cdrom for it to all work
[02:09] <bengoodger> arrenlex: I get my BIOS' ordinary boot-sector-404 error, unless I choose my windows mbr hard disk in which case I get windows
[02:09] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Here's mine... see if it helps you. http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf
[02:09] <tehxed> gyaresu, what do you suggest?
[02:09] <jrib> !hostname | Regner
[02:09] <transgress> tehxed: yeah i know.
[02:09] <ubotu> Regner: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[02:10] <jamesbrose> transgress, drwxrwxrwx 63 james  1000 176128 Feb 22 00:30 Music
[02:10] <jrib> jamesbrose: what is the exact error from rhythmbox?
[02:10] <colbert> arrenlex: Thank you! I have mounted my XP partition.. silly question time: I have opened the folder and I see it at /media/BGPC XP, now how do I make a shortcut to it on my desktop or make it readily available there??
[02:10] <SamePaul> lufis: cp[ied to 2.6.17-11-generic
[02:10] <tehxed> transgress, that tutorial gives links to the bcm4318 drivers
[02:10] <foutrelis> Do Dapper's packages work on Edgy?
[02:10] <tehxed> the windows drivers are .exe files..
[02:10] <gyaresu> tehxed: still thinking.
[02:10] <arrenlex> colbert: In terminal: ln -s /media/BGPC\ XP ~/Desktop/music
[02:10] <lufis> SamePaul: ok, good. is it showing up now?
[02:10] <tehxed> transgress, the windows drivers are .exe files.. =\
[02:11] <nutterpc> up365: lemme know how you go once you change the settings I mentioned
[02:11] <kitche> tehxed: you just unzip the .exe file
[02:11] <transgress> tehxed: you need cabextract so sudo apt-get install cabextract
[02:11] <transgress> the cabextract windowsfile.exe
[02:11] <bengoodger> arrenlex: the whole setup is rather complicated... sda is my primary hard disk, with windows installed to sda1, grub on sda3 and gnu on sda6. hda is my secondary hard disk, with a reiser partition hda1 being my media storage device; hdd is the drive I inserted to make windows work, with windows' MBR installed on it
[02:11] <quanchi2> What is an extended partition?
[02:11] <jamesbrose> jrib, everything is working now :) The program needed to be restarted
[02:11] <jrib> jamesbrose: oh, ok
[02:11] <transgress> tehxed: BUT!  put it in it's own directory or you will get a shitload of shit in your current pwd
[02:11] <bengoodger> hdd1 is a fat32 drive with some nonsense loaded
[02:12] <arrenlex> bengoodger: You're way beyond my limited experience with grub, sorry... good luck fixing it. You could also try asking on the ubuntu forums.
[02:12] <jrib> jamesbrose: you didn't copy bengoodger word for word right?  He put my name in there by mistake, so you should have updated that
[02:12] <SamePaul> lufis: no. In syslog it does not go further than 'Intel Corporation'
[02:12] <colbert> arrenlex: Wow thanks so much! Is there no way to create a shortcut without terminal ??
[02:12] <transgress> bengoodger: can you use a livecd?
[02:12] <up365> nutterpc,  invalid option -- d and without the -d play files opened
[02:12] <bengoodger> transgress: I'm on one now
[02:12] <arrenlex> colbert: Probably, but I don't know it since I don't use gnome.
[02:12] <quanchi2> is there a chat room with less people that can give me assistance?
[02:12] <gyaresu> tehxed: Sounds like transgress has more info on the broadcom drivers. Can I go to the bakery now? :)
[02:12] <Tora> can some one help me alitle ?
[02:12] <bengoodger> transgress: I did get it to work before, but I forget how
[02:12] <jamesbrose> jrib, yeah I know :P
[02:12] <geeksauce> arrenlex, your samba config looks completely different than mine as it was created using SWAT
[02:12] <nutterpc> up365: it worked for me man, very odd
[02:12] <lufis> SamePaul: have you already installed the driver package? is it different than firmware, i assume?
[02:12] <quanchi2> does Canonical have a phone line that i can call for help?
[02:12] <gyaresu> quanchi2: What's your question?
[02:12] <transgress> bengoodger: then you need to chroot your hardrive in it, then install grub... if i were you i'd follow the gentoo install guide because it has you do that exact thing
[02:12] <bengoodger> quanchi2: yes, at hugely inflated prices
[02:12] <tehxed> gyaresu, you didn't need to stick around man. if you had to go.. you go
[02:13] <up365> nutterpc,  Im on Edgy any difference
[02:13] <foutrelis> Please excuse me for asking again. Do Dapper's packages work on Edgy?
[02:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: SWAT totally saved my ass both times I've used it. Simply couldn't get anything to work without it.
[02:13] <quanchi2> Gyaresu, i need to be guided through making a partition
[02:13] <tehxed> gyaresu, thanks again for all the help
[02:13] <quanchi2> safely
[02:13] <nutterpc> up365: so am I
[02:13] <SamePaulNB> lufis: yes. Installed driver and ieee80211
[02:13] <gyaresu> tehxed: I like puzzles. :)
[02:13] <quanchi2> i don't want to delete my windows partition
[02:13] <tehxed> transgress, what do you mean put "it" in it's own directory?
[02:13] <lufis> SamePaulNB: okay, try rebooting i guess
[02:13] <Tora> can some one help me alitle ?
[02:13] <bengoodger> transgress: been there, done that, debugged, received the "completed without error" message and then rebooted to get the BIOS' moan
[02:13] <colbert> arrenlex: Okay, thank you!
[02:13] <nutterpc> Linux Demon 2.6.20 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 21 07:51:34 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:13] <quanchi2> i just want to make a 20gb partition to install ubuntu on
[02:13] <kitche> foutrelis: not really
[02:13] <quanchi2> i'm new to partitioning
[02:13] <quanchi2> compeletely
[02:13] <gyaresu> quanchi2: OK. Firstly, why do you want to make a partition?
[02:13] <geeksauce> arrenlex, is it in the repos?
[02:13] <transgress> tehxed: mkdir windowscrap mv && windowscrap.exe windowscrap
[02:13] <SamePaulNB> lufis: ok. 2 min
[02:13] <transgress> err
[02:13] <nutterpc> up365: running a custom kernel :)
[02:13] <foutrelis> thank you kitche :)
[02:13] <gyaresu> quanchi2: secondly preface your comments with our nicks.
[02:13] <arrenlex> !info swat | geeksauce
[02:13] <transgress> tehxed: put that mv on the otherside of &&
[02:13] <ubotu> geeksauce: swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 739 kB, installed size 2052 kB
[02:13] <quanchi2> Gyaresu, to have Ubuntu and Windows on my PC.
[02:14] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Do you only have windows at the moment?
[02:14] <Regner> is there a way to get my MD array to shut down properly when /boot is mounted as sdg (usb boot device) and the actual md as / ?
[02:14] <quanchi2> yes.  I'm on a live CD now.  A Ubuntu Live CD
[02:14] <up365> nutterpc, so your solution let you load CD tracks to XMMS playlist?
[02:14] <bengoodger> transgress: can you help me personally? it's an utter arse of a setup
[02:14] <Tora> can some one help me alitle ?
[02:15] <transgress> bengoodger: i'll find you the step by steps of it, but if i tell it to you i will fsck it up.  i'm really doped up on painkillers at the moment
[02:15] <tehxed> aww man
[02:15] <SpacePuppy> !ask
[02:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:15] <tehxed> where is cabextract
[02:15] <Tora> i need the first login name i lost it :S ome ur sum :S
[02:15] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Ok. Then you can (after backing up the important files in XP) just install ubuntu and it should automatically find the XP partition and include it in the boot loader options.
[02:15] <arrenlex> !info cabextract | tehxed
[02:15] <ubotu> tehxed: cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[02:15] <nutterpc> up365: the solution I have basically loaded xmms, went straight to the cdrom, looked, saw an audio cd, brought up a window showing me the tracks available, and I just went and added the ones I wanted
[02:15] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Does that make sense?
[02:15] <gbo> hello all
[02:15] <bengoodger> gyaresu: the problem is installing ubuntu without blitzing windows' partition
[02:15] <gyaresu> !hello > gbo
[02:15] <SamePaul> lufis: restarted. Modprobe?
[02:15] <bengoodger> transgress: thanks
[02:15] <arrenlex> !hi | gbo
[02:16] <ubotu> gbo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:16] <scv> u-bun-tu~
[02:16] <nutterpc> love this track
[02:16] <quanchi2> gyaresu: it already finds the windows xp partition.  The slider won't let me go lower than 57.2GB of memory.  All I need is 20GB for Ubuntu.
[02:16] <Tora> can some one help me ?? msg me plz...
[02:16] <gyaresu> bengoodger: Yes. I've pointed that out as not a problem if the ubuntu install is used.
[02:16] <arrenlex> gyaresu: Did you look carefully at !hello before sending it? =P
[02:16] <nutterpc> Tora: whats up?
[02:16] <lufis> SamePaul: does it show up?
[02:16] <Tora> i need the first login name i lost it :S ome ur sum :S
[02:16] <gyaresu> !hello
[02:16] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[02:16] <gyaresu> HA!
[02:16] <bengoodger> gyaresu: "just install ubuntu" does not inform the user of how to set up a partition table
[02:17] <gyaresu> arrenlex: thank you.
[02:17] <quanchi2> gyaresu: ?
[02:17] <transgress> bengoodger: found you just what you need that will be far easier than what i suggested
[02:17] <nutterpc> Tora: you lost your login name? 0_o
[02:17] <transgress> bengoodger: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[02:17] <gbo> this is off topic but does anyone know if its possible to use google to search for forums and boards
[02:17] <up365> nutterpc, when I click Play,  Play Files opens but I cannot get a list from CD
[02:17] <DarthLappy> Tora: Did you do an OEM install?
[02:17] <SamePaul> lufis: no
[02:17] <lufis> gbo: what do you mean? you can search within sites by typing site:url.com query keyword
[02:17] <Tora> OEM THX!!!
[02:17] <unop> gbo,  use google search modifiers .. site:url
[02:17] <bengoodger> gbo: er, yes, type "forums|fora|bboards|boards <subject>|<other_subject>" into google
[02:17] <DarthLappy> :)
[02:17] <lufis> SamePaul: :( are you sure it copied correctly?
[02:17] <gyaresu> quanchi2: OK. So you can use gparted. If you are already in the LiveCD then 'sudo gparted' and create the partitions you need.
[02:18] <quanchi2> OMFG
[02:18] <gbo> thank you
[02:18] <nutterpc> up365: you need to change the cd audio plugin in xmms to point towards the /media/cdrom mountpoint
[02:18] <quanchi2> k
[02:18] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ok installed... how do i access it and use it?
[02:18] <bengoodger> gbo: for searching within boards, use the site: argument as directed
[02:18] <gyaresu> !partitions
[02:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:18] <quanchi2> this is getting me pissed off
[02:18] <quanchi2> are there any guides?
[02:18] <quanchi2> no one seems to be listening
[02:18] <unop> !language
[02:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:18] <quanchi2> any guides on how to do this?
[02:18] <DarthLappy> !patience > quanchi2
[02:18] <StoneNote> quanchi2, did you say something?
[02:18] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Point your browser to localhost:901
[02:18] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Really? No-ones listening?
[02:18] <pilgrim> Hi all. I can't get the help from any application in gnome. When I click Help>Contents on the gnome terminal for example, Yelp opens with the "Ubuntu Help Centre" and the welcome message but then the actual help stuff opens in firefox (XML format, so it's not readable)....What do I do? Please someone guide me somewhere.
[02:19] <computerhermit> thank you
[02:19] <quanchi2> No, they aren't.  If they were they'd know that I'm trying to use GParted.  I only said it 10 times.
[02:19] <admin_> Can I compile a 64 bit firefox, on my 32 bit ubuntu? (I do have a 64 bit processor), and will FF actually run?
[02:19] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Crazy, because I thought I was spending my day off helping you to partition your drive... I must be mistaken.
[02:19] <quanchi2> I don't mean to be snappy but put yourself in my shoes.
[02:19] <tehxed> man
[02:19] <tehxed> exe files are a pain in ubuntu
[02:19] <admin_> waine it up tehxed
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> quanchi2: are you using the most recent gparted?
[02:19] <admin_> * wine
[02:19] <lufis> SamePaul: type ls /lib/firmware/2.6.17-11-generic | grep <put filename of firmware file here>
[02:19] <SamePaul> lufis: Maybe to get other distro? Or update kernel? (though I don't know how, but...)
[02:20] <SamePaul> lufis: sec
[02:20] <quanchi2> tony: how should I know?
[02:20] <kitche> tehxed: if it's drivers unzip the .exe file
[02:20] <nutterpc> change that mount point for the cd audio plugin as mentioned up365 and the string I gave u will work
[02:20] <StoneNote> gyaresu, after all you were paid you treat a customer like this. for shame
[02:20] <bengoodger> quanchi2: you're not listening to us. there are no need for guides, since it's really not difficult. you simply arrive at the partitioner, select "manual partitioning", use it to shrink your windows partition (use your brain to do this), apply, and then go back and select "use largest contiguous free space" or similar as I said ages ago.
[02:20] <geeksauce> arrenlex, nothing there
[02:20] <tehxed> kitche, it's not working =(
[02:20] <tehxed> kitche, it's an exe
[02:20] <up365> nutterpc, OK, the cd audio plugin in xmms is located where ?
[02:20] <quanchi2> ok ben
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> quanchi2: The most recent (ie, most bugfixes) will be the GParted LiveCD (available from GParted web site).  I've often found bugs in the ones on Ubuntu live CDs...
[02:20] <kitche> tehxed: your point being exe files are just like zip files
[02:21] <gyaresu> StoneNote: Hey. Sorry, missing the context. Sarcasm?
[02:21] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Odd. Are you sure you can't just work with mine? Seems simple enough to understand to me...
[02:21] <DarthLappy> kitche: Well, not all of them.
[02:21] <SamePaul> lufis: yes, I have there all 3 files of fw
[02:21] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it's very intuitive and not at all hard, and only by being extremely stupid (i.e. ignoring the comfirmation option to delete your windows partition) will you screw it up
[02:21] <lufis> SamePaul: hmm, i have no idea then :(
[02:21] <tehxed> how do i use cabextract
[02:21] <nutterpc> up365: in Input Plugins, highlight xmms (which means load it), then press ctrl + p, and the first plugin you will in the list that comes up is the cd one
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> tehxed: probably just 'cabextract somefile', but you can check 'man cabextract' to be sure.
[02:21] <nutterpc> double click it, change the mount point
[02:22] <SamePaul> lufis: uf... alright. Thanks for trying.
[02:22] <nutterpc> press the check drive button, and then ok, and ok
[02:22] <lufis> SamePaul: good luck... :(
[02:22] <posingaspopular> i need helping installing a java plugin, it's a .bin and keeps giving me an error. help?
[02:22] <quanchi2> Ben: dude, how come this doesn't come with a manual, regardless of how easy it may seem to everyone else?
[02:22] <geeksauce> arrenlex, is there a man file for SWAT?
[02:22] <nutterpc> should be good after that
[02:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: When I run localhost:901, firefox prompts me for my password and then displays the conf page. So I dunno.
[02:22] <kitche> DarthLappy: most setup exe are
[02:22] <SamePaul> lufis: Can I update kernel to 2.6.20? Or it is bad idea?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> !java | posingaspopular
[02:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: man swat
[02:22] <ubotu> posingaspopular: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:22] <bengoodger> transgress: I don't actually want to use the ubuntu installer, since that will likely bugger my debian in an interesting way
[02:22] <StoneNote> quanchi2, this what you're looking for? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome  I can't vouch for this
[02:22] <up365> nutterpc, I see
[02:22] <posingaspopular> tonyyarusso: thanks
[02:22] <lufis> SamePaul: i guess so, but unless you know for sure it has a feature required i wouldn't bother
[02:22] <gyaresu> quanchi2: A manual? You mean like Windows?
[02:23] <colbert> arrenlex: Little problem here, when I followed that command to create the shortcut "ln -s /media/BGPC\ XP ~/Desktop/music" I failed to put the \ between BGPC and XP for the space, and it created bad "BGPC" and "XP links on the desktop, I deleted BGPC but I can't seem to get rid of XP ?
[02:23] <tehxed> success!!!
[02:23] <nutterpc> SamePaul: updating the kernel to 2.6.20 (basically roll ur own) is a bit harder than most people should ideally attempt
[02:23] <gyaresu> tehxed: Wireless a-go-go?
[02:23] <nutterpc> especially when small features decide to stop working, lol
[02:23] <SamePaul> lufis: I just don't know what to do. WinXP had no problem with it :(
[02:23] <arrenlex> colbert: You've come to the right place! This channel is all about helping you get rid of XP :D
[02:23] <colbert> lol
[02:23] <lufis> SamePaul: yeah, some hardware vendors make it pretty difficult for linux to use it. blame them
[02:24] <bengoodger> quanchi2: using one's brain is quite sufficient for using linux. unlike windows, it is neither necessary nor possible to manage by repeating the same series of mouseclicks over and over having memorised them painstakingly
[02:24] <arrenlex> colbert: For future reference, Linux doesn't like spaces in filenames. I highly advise you not to use them for files you will be accessing in the command line, because it's a pain to escape them with \ every time.
[02:24] <tehxed> gyaresu, negatory
[02:24] <up365> nutterpc,  uh oh xmms is not listed in Input plugins
[02:24] <colbert> arrenlex: Okay
[02:24] <lufis> SamePaul: they purposely withhold hardware specs most of the time. it's a sad thing
[02:24] <gyaresu> tehxed: poop
[02:24] <nutterpc> 0_o
[02:24] <arrenlex> colbert: What happens if you just press delete over XP?
[02:24] <tehxed> gyaresu, i just figured out how to get the windows drivers extracted using cabextract
[02:24] <tehxed> transgress, i got them extracted.. now what?
[02:24] <nutterpc> it should be in there man
[02:24] <lufis> SamePaul: and provide crappy closed-source drivers
[02:24] <colbert> arrenlex: Nothing
[02:25] <mjr> (Linux likes spaces in filenames just fine, it's just a bit cumbersome to use those in shell)
[02:25] <quanchi2> k
[02:25] <gyaresu> tehxed: stage 47. moving onto stage 48...
[02:25] <colbert> arrenlex: The icon has a locked emblem on it
[02:25] <SamePaul> lufis: :) I'll say them. I'm working in the wireless department of Intel ))
[02:25] <quanchi2> ben: there is now 19GB of unallocated space.
[02:25] <arrenlex> colbert: Okay, open up the terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop". Then type "rm XP".
[02:25] <tehxed> gyaresu, no kidding.. i'm in pain
[02:25] <bengoodger> quanchi2: excellent
[02:25] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hmm i don't see why that isn't working.  if i point ff to localhost it shows a directory listing that just has a folder called "samba-images"
[02:25] <transgress> tehxed: sudo ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf
[02:25] <bengoodger> quanchi2: make yourself a new 1GB partition, formatted as swap
[02:25] <nutterpc> SamePaul: that must be fun
[02:25] <transgress> bengoodger: why are you asking debian help in #ubuntu?
[02:25] <quanchi2> ben: i went back and clicked "use largest contiguous free space"
[02:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: o_O
[02:25] <dogmeat> which wma -> mp3 converter can i use?
[02:25] <bengoodger> then use the rest of the space for one formatted as ext3
[02:25] <colbert> arrenlex: You strike again :) Thank you :)
[02:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: That's localhost:901, not just localhost, right?
[02:26] <SamePaul> nutterpc: Actually not at all :)
[02:26] <quanchi2> ben: so it will only use that 19GB of space right?
[02:26] <arrenlex> colbert: Is it actually gone?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> dogmeat, does Linux have a WMA-MP3 converter?
[02:26] <transgress> bengoodger: try this one then http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/restore-debian-linux-grub-boot-loader.html
[02:26] <bengoodger> transgress: what is ubuntu if not a slightly more patronising version of debian?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> i figure yo'ud have to convert them on a windows box
[02:26] <nutterpc> SamePaul: why do you say that man :P
[02:26] <colbert> arrenlex: Yes
[02:26] <geeksauce> nah that's just localhost.  adding :901 doesn't work
[02:26] <Marupa> Hey, uh...looking to try out feisty...How would I go about upgrading from Edgy?
[02:26] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: mplayer -ao pcm <file.wma> && lame <file.wav> :)
[02:26] <tehxed> maaan
[02:26] <transgress> bengoodger: debian has it's own way of doing things and ubuntu has it's way ... and debian also has it's own channel.  but that link should set you up.
[02:26] <bengoodger> Marupa: don't bother until it's released
[02:26] <gyaresu> !upgrade
[02:26] <nutterpc> arrenlex: good ol mplayer
[02:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: The :901 part is kind of important. If it doesn't work, that's the problem.
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, does that line change it to a .wav file?.. how to convert to an mp3?
[02:27] <gyaresu> !upgrade > Marupa
[02:27] <dynamicreflux> !feisty
[02:27] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:27] <quanchi2> ben: it will only install in that 19GB, right?
[02:27] <skel> can anyone clarify something for me? I read on slashdot that feisty wouldn't have the 3d accelerated drivers by default for nvidia / ati for beryl / AIGLX, does that mean that restricted-modules won't include the nvidia drivers anymore? or just that it won't be default?
[02:27] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: By using lame.
[02:27] <bengoodger> transgress: I'm not aware that ubuntu has forked gnu grub...
[02:27] <SamePaul> nutterpc: It's frustrating to fail on this...
[02:27] <bengoodger> quanchi2: yep
[02:27] <quanchi2> ok
[02:27] <Marupa> I don't want to wait until april  X3
[02:27] <nutterpc> SamePaul: whats not happening?
[02:27] <quanchi2> ben: it will not erase my windows stuff right?
[02:27] <gyaresu> skel: by default.
[02:27] <mjr> skel, it won't be default, as has been for ages already
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, oh i see now, ok
[02:27] <bengoodger> skel: it won't be the default, thankfully
[02:27] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Backup,backup,backup.
[02:27] <bengoodger> quanchi2: not unless you tell it to
[02:28] <mjr> skel, (incidentally, "accelerated" != "proprietary"; many Radeons are accelerated with the free drivers already)
[02:28] <bengoodger> quanchi2: read above my last message
[02:28] <skel> gyaresu / mjr / gyaresu: ok thanks, I was worried I wouldn't have access to them at all
[02:28] <tehxed> transgress, sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[02:28] <skel> mjr: right, bad wording on my part.
[02:28] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yes i realize that.  i thought maybe the fact that it lists a samba-images directory when i point it localhost might have helped as far as troubleshooting
[02:28] <transgress> bengoodger: no it hasn't... but you said yourself that installing it using ubuntu might make interesting things happen.  hence debian doing things it's way... thus you shouldn't be asking for help in a place ill equiped to help you.  ubuntu != debian ... especially now
[02:28] <tehxed> transgress, bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[02:28] <quanchi2> i have stuff i want to keep on burned CDs
[02:28] <transgress> tehxed: remove it and reinstall it
[02:28] <gyaresu> skel: It's Linux. You can always jam stuff in that's not meant to be there ;)
[02:28] <quanchi2> but i really don't want to have to refer to those
[02:28] <mqueiros> hello... I'v installed some packages on dapper but I don't remember all... does dapper keeps track of the lateste installed packages ? where ? thanks!
[02:28] <quanchi2> my parents use this computer
[02:28] <tbc2> hi@all ...
[02:28] <nutterpc> SamePaul: depending on what ur problem is, I might be able to help
[02:28] <quanchi2> i really want to be careful
[02:29] <tehxed> transgress, instead of -i, use -e?
[02:29] <skel> gyaresu: I know, I used to compile the nvidia drivers all the time against my custom kernel, it just because a matter of maintenance and breaking the updates etc
[02:29] <tehxed> transgress, sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf   <--?
[02:29] <transgress> tehxed: use the -e bcmwl5 and then ndiswrapper bcmwl5.inf
[02:29] <transgress> tehxed: no .inf is required for the -e
[02:29] <skel> gyaresu: so if at all possible, I like to stick with ubuntu kernels and packages :)
[02:29] <bengoodger> transgress: debian doesn't do anything its way, that's the point. and canonical haven't forked gnu grub, so I should be able to use a livecd to fix a distro-independent application
[02:29] <tehxed> transgress, so what ...what am I typing in?
[02:29] <gyaresu> skel: Yeah I know. Just being facetious.
[02:30] <bengoodger> transgress: do you install a different copy of grub if you want to run windows?
[02:30] <skel> gyaresu: =] 
[02:30] <transgress> tehxed: gnome-terminal if you are using gnome
[02:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: There we go. Open /etc/inetd.conf in a text editor as root.
[02:30] <quanchi2> i hope this works
[02:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Find the line that says #swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[02:30] <tehxed> transgress, another terminal popped up =\
[02:30] <transgress> bengoodger: i install a different package that was compiled differently and packaged differently if i install different packages.
[02:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And uncomment it. Or if it doesn't exist, add it.
[02:30] <nutterpc> brb all, call of nature
[02:30] <transgress> bengoodger: do you use ubuntu repo's on your debian install?
[02:31] <tbc2> can anybody tell me, why deleting /var/logs/mail.log is leading to permanently absence of taht file even after sending again? i would have thought that it is recreated automatically when next sending process is taking place. whta do i have to do to regain a mail.log (just creating an empty file with the right grants isn't the solution).
[02:31] <bengoodger> transgress: obviously not, but I don't use ubuntu nor debian to boot my system... I use GNU GRUB
[02:31] <gyaresu> transgress: bengoodger Now now lads. Silly argument. Let's play nicely together eh?
[02:31] <quanchi2> ben: does ubuntu run faster off of the livecd?
[02:31] <transgress> bengoodger: but you use GRUB compiled and packaged by DEBIAN not grub compiled and packaged by UBUNTU
[02:32] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it runs much, much faster off the hard disk
[02:32] <mjr> quanchi2, CD drives are slow (especially seeking), so no, much slower
[02:32] <quanchi2> off of the harddisk?
[02:32] <quanchi2> or off of the CD?
[02:32] <quanchi2> oh
[02:32] <quanchi2> nvm
[02:32] <quanchi2> lol
[02:32] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it runs much, much faster off the hard disk
[02:32] <quanchi2> my mistake
[02:32] <tehxed> transgress, so how do i remove this?
[02:32] <quanchi2> ben: are you a unix programmer?
[02:32] <tehxed> transgress, sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf   <--that?
[02:32] <bengoodger> transgress: so, if you were to install debian and ubuntu dual-boot you wouldn't dare to use the copy of GRUB that came with either one? what would you use instead? mandrake 6.2's LILO
[02:32] <bengoodger> ?
[02:32] <transgress> no... just "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5"
[02:33] <quanchi2> i'm just wondering
[02:33] <bengoodger> quanchi2: I hope to be at some point... I'm learning python/gtk atm
[02:33] <quanchi2> oh
[02:33] <StoneNote> tbc2, what user:group do you have for /var/log/mail.log ?
[02:33] <quanchi2> i'm a windows programmer
[02:33] <quanchi2> used to a windows environment only
[02:33] <bengoodger> quanchi2: you have my pity
[02:33] <tbc2> StoneNote: root
[02:33] <quanchi2> i have to get used to this stuff
[02:33] <quanchi2> ha
[02:33] <tehxed> I'm alone again =(
[02:33] <StoneNote> tbc2, root:root?
[02:33] <quanchi2> well unix seems way easier to program on
[02:33] <tbc2> StoneNote: same as for mail.info ;)
[02:33] <quanchi2> i mean when it comes to things like quick projects
[02:34] <StoneNote> tbc2, mine is set to root:adm
[02:34] <quanchi2> thanks for the help, all of you.
[02:34] <blackes1> anyone from the uk with a dvb-t card ?
[02:34] <bengoodger> quanchi2: however, being a programmer makes people assume that you're capable of basic partitioning tasks... evidently windows is more patronising nowadays
[02:34] <quanchi2> I hope this stuff works.
[02:34] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it shoul
[02:34] <bengoodger> d
[02:34] <quanchi2> ben: too bad that isn't the truth
[02:34] <bengoodger> quanchi2: indeed
[02:34] <StoneNote> tbc2, sudo chown root:adm /var/log/mail.log
[02:34] <tbc2> StoneNote: yep, saw that on a webpage previously that it was chmod'ed for group adm
[02:34] <tbc2> but all other mail.* logs are root:root
[02:34] <StoneNote> ok
[02:35] <quanchi2> ben: you can know how to code your own version of DOOM3, but still not know how to make a drive partition :P
[02:35] <quanchi2> lol
[02:35] <Yggdrasil> can somone help me get with this ? controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX
[02:35] <bengoodger> quanchi2: DOOM3 runs on linux, you know :P
[02:35] <quanchi2> lol
[02:35] <tehxed> transgress,  you there?
[02:35] <bengoodger> yay for opengl
[02:35] <quanchi2> well i'm sure you get what i mean.
[02:35] <transgress> tehxed: umm sort of
[02:35] <bengoodger> yeah
[02:35] <quanchi2> :P
[02:35] <quanchi2> DirectX ftw
[02:35] <blackes1> partition with dapper then install edgy ;)
[02:35] <StoneNote> tbc2, not on my system in /var/log
[02:35] <scv> who runs doom now?
[02:36] <quanchi2> i've never even played DOOM
[02:36] <tehxed> transgress, bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[02:36] <scv> i rather to play nexuiz
[02:36] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Not getting an IP address?
[02:36] <bengoodger> quanchi2: DOOM was OK... gameplay was good, but the engine was tripe. of course, I only predate it by three years so I'm used to better graphics
[02:36] <transgress> bengoodger: why is it you didn't want to use those instructions i gave you then?
[02:37] <tehxed> gyaresu, you ..have a any ideas?
[02:37] <transgress> tehxed: i just told you what to do.  twice.  \
[02:37] <gyaresu> tehxed: Sorry. About what? (Wireless still?)
[02:37] <bengoodger> transgress: because I don't want ubuntu's installer to run. I'm quite happy to reinstall grub from ubuntu
[02:37] <tehxed> gyaresu, yes
[02:37] <tehxed> transgress, err..
[02:37] <geeksauce> arrenlex, sorry i stepped away for a few mins... lemme catch up :)
[02:37] <tehxed> transgress, <transgress> tehxed: no .inf is required for the -e
[02:37] <tehxed> transgress, that?
[02:38] <quanchi2> k
[02:38] <quanchi2> installation complete
[02:38] <quanchi2> brb
[02:38] <tbc2> StoneNote: tried it, no way ... manually created mail.log stays at 0 bytes
[02:38] <transgress> bengoodger: i'm well aware grub will work from either... however, you came in here asking for info which i gave you assuming you had an ubuntu setup... which you don't... which caused the instructions to be invalid, which is why you shouldn't go to a channel that doesn't support your system... and then i give you other instructions... and you continue to bitch.
[02:38] <quanchi2> let me see if i still have windows
[02:38] <blackes1> bengoodger why is that name familiar ?
[02:38] <tehxed> transgress, but what do i do after the removing (the -e) thing
[02:38] <transgress> tehxed: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[02:38] <bengoodger> I share a name with the lead developer of Mozilla Firefox. it's perpetually embarrassing
[02:39] <transgress> tehxed: ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m && modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:39] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu its not showing up when i do ifconfig
[02:39] <bengoodger> transgress: thank you so much for your help
[02:39] <blackes1> firefox ben goodger ?
[02:39] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: 'dmesg |grep eth'
[02:39] <StoneNote> tbc2, cron sends me mail about every half hour. how often is it writing to you?
[02:40] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: 'lspci'
[02:40] <foormea> ahey, do you know if there's still a problem with scim in feisty when not using a CJK session?
[02:40] <blackes1> ah i see
[02:40] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: post the output to pastebin please.
[02:40] <bengoodger> blackes1: no, I'm the other ben goodger
[02:40] <bengoodger> it's annoying.
[02:40] <iresprite> hey, all.
[02:40] <tbc2> StoneNote: how does that rely to my prob? i could not follow ;)
[02:40] <blackes1> coul;d be worse could be called richard stallman
[02:41] <bengoodger> blackes1: good god, no..
[02:41] <tehxed> transgress,  drivername      invalid driver
[02:41] <geeksauce> arrenlex, that line already exists and isn't commented out
[02:41] <iresprite> Got a quick question regarding hostname resolution...
[02:41] <bengoodger> I try to distance myself from insane persons
[02:41] <transgress> tehxed: well... ndiswrapper -i therightdrivername.inf
[02:41] <tehxed> i thought i did
[02:41] <blackes1> anyone here got a dvb-t card in the uk ??
[02:41] <StoneNote> tbc2, it's a log file. things get written to the log file when there is activity. if I created a file with nothing in it, I'd expect there to be nothing in it until the next event wrote something to it. stop me if I'm going to fast here
[02:41] <iresprite> I've got a file server that, for some reason, can't seem to resolve any hostnames. I'm behind a router, and it's only recently that this has occurred.
[02:41] <tbc2> StoneNote: i haven' cron'ed a script mailx-ing me
[02:42] <transgress> tehxed: or is that from the modprobe?
[02:42] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu ok will do
[02:42] <tehxed> transgress, from the modprobe
[02:42] <skel> iresprite: did you check the usual? /etc/hosts  /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[02:42] <bengoodger> blackes1: I hope to buy one one day... there's a specific card you should buy, in order to not want to kill yourself
[02:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I dunno then. Sorry.
[02:42] <tbc2> StoneNote: i will manually shell the mailx to produce log activity
[02:42] <bengoodger> I forget which one
[02:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Maybe this will help you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58434&highlight=swat
[02:42] <iresprite> Well, there's not much in those-- this is a vanilla installation, and I haven't done anything with it.
[02:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Use mine if you can.
[02:42] <StoneNote> tbc2, now that's a good idea
[02:42] <tbc2> StoneNote: just using 'mailx -s ...'
[02:42] <skel> iresprite: validate that the dns servers specified are reachable and providing responses?
[02:42] <transgress> tehxed: i've heard that reinstalling ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 helps in some cases... but iuno.
[02:43] <tehxed> transgress, it's worth a shot.
[02:43] <blackes1> well ive got a kworld dvb-t 210 once i modded the v4l driver source its ok :)
[02:43] <tbc2> but mail.log still at 0 bytes ... mail.info growing
[02:43] <bengoodger> blackes1: goood
[02:43] <tehxed> transgress, "udo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils" ?
[02:43] <skel> iresprite: does it only happen with certain hosts? or all resolution?
[02:43] <geeksauce> arrenlex, can you send me that link again?  it's not that i CAN'T use yours, it just bugs me when things don't work like they're supposed to :P
[02:43] <StoneNote> interesting
[02:43] <transgress> tehxed: no.
[02:43] <saxaphone> Where's a good place to learn about setting up dansguardian?
[02:43] <tbc2> if i rename mail.info to mail.info.b ... the mailx will find it *strangebehaviour*
[02:43] <arrenlex> http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf
[02:44] <tehxed> transgress, err..that's suppose to say "sudo"
[02:44] <transgress> tehxed: sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils && sudo aptitude reinstall ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[02:44] <blackes1> only problem is i need 2 more mux's kaffeine will tune the mux once it knows one channel
[02:44] <iresprite> skel: yep, I can ping 'em both. (I got them off my router-- I didn't think they needed to be manually configured on the box.)
[02:44] <transgress> tehxed: then blacklist the bcm43xx driver if you haven't already, reboot, and try to modprobe ndiswrapper then
[02:45] <tehxed> reboot == actually restart or logout/login?
[02:45] <Jeeves_Moss> has anyone had issues with WiFi cards under the latest release?
[02:45] <transgress> tehxed: actually reboot
[02:45] <tehxed> transgress, ah, gotya
[02:45] <baix> hey all, if i want to look at and modify the source code of programs, where would i start?
[02:45] <StoneNote> tbc2, I looked again. postfix is the only thing logging to my mail.log
[02:45] <skel> iresprite: can you do nslookups?
[02:45] <iresprite> skel: Maybe this is relevant. This box uses static ip, whereas I'm using DHCP for most other machines.
[02:45] <iresprite> skel: nope.
[02:45] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  are you in here?
[02:45] <gyaresu> baix: What are you trying to achieve?
[02:45] <iresprite> skel: the other machine using static ip resolves hostnames fine, though.
[02:46] <tbc2> StoneNote: oh ... mail.log is a postfix logfile were mail.info is related to mailx?
[02:46] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: how'd the GPS work out?
[02:46] <skel> iresprite: your router gets your dns servers from your provider, if the dns servers change and that fileserver isnt using dhcp it won't pickup the changes.. have the dnsservers changed ?
[02:46] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone?  WiFi issues, new release?
[02:46] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: You're question is too vague.
[02:46] <StoneNote> tbc2, I'm seeing postfix in .info too
[02:47] <baix> gyaresu, i just want to be able to look at some source code from some real programs (xchat for example) and maybe try to modify and recompile them
[02:47] <StoneNote> tbc2, could be the way I'm set up
[02:47] <Jeeves_Moss> n2diy:  it works great.  I had to reinstall Ubuntu after a bunch of unrecoverable errors, now my WiFi won't work.
[02:47] <iresprite> skel: Hard to tell-- I haven't checked them in a while. However, wouldn't the change in DNS also affect the other machine using static IP? (It's also an Ubuntu machine.)
[02:47] <skel> iresprite: yes it would, in theory
[02:47] <unity> hi, was wondering what version of nfs-kernel-dameon/server (whatever it's called) ships with ubuntu 6.10?
[02:47] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: roger that, not playing with wifi here, yet.
[02:47] <tbc2> StoneNote: i did a '/etc/init.d/postfix restart' and ...
[02:47] <iresprite> skel: If this is somehow the case, how would I update the box to use the new DNS servers?
[02:47] <tbc2> -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm      0 2007-02-24 02:36 mail.log
[02:47] <tbc2> ^ still 0 bytes
[02:48] <Phlosten> iresprite: is your /etc/resolv.conf empty?
[02:48] <gyaresu> baix: So you want to learn how to programme? Start with one of the easier languages. Ruby/Python...
[02:48] <Jeeves_Moss> n2diy:  well, I'm getting annoyed.  it worked flawlessly in the previous release, niw the update is screwing up.  and I NEED it to work on his one.
[02:48] <tehxed> wtf?!
[02:48] <tehxed> it's not letting me edit blacklist
[02:48] <sha1sum> hey guys... wondering if altering your installation environment changes your install at all (ie, does adding/removing packages from the install livecd session alter the packages on your system?).
[02:48] <iresprite> phlosten: yes.
[02:48] <skel> iresprite: well other than manually getting the dns servers that the router pulls, it depends on your setup
[02:48] <Phlosten> iresprite: well make it not empty
[02:48] <skel> doh
[02:48] <skel> iresprite: ^^ what Phlosten said :)
[02:49] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: roger that too, good luck.
[02:49] <gyaresu> baix: http://tryruby.hobix.com/
[02:49] <iresprite> phlosten: ah. Okay. I wasn't aware that was an issue-- the machine has worked for months without it being a problem.
[02:49] <skel> iresprite: you could always setup a cron job to rsync one of your dhcp boxes to grab the /etc/resolv.conf
[02:49] <StoneNote> tbc2, I have to admit I'm out of ideas
[02:49] <Jeeves_Moss> n2diy:  thanks.  Oh, BTW, can you hop over to #jeeves?  I've got some information on that server.
[02:49] <iresprite> phlosten: the file says do not edit by hand! your changes will be overwritten!
[02:49] <Phlosten> iresprite: no entry in resolv.conf means no dns resolution
[02:49] <iresprite> except with more caps. :)
[02:49] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: sure
[02:49] <saxaphone> Where's a good place to learn about setting up dansguardian?
[02:50] <Phlosten> iresprite: what have you got installed on that box in the way of server apps?
[02:50] <iresprite> skel: a cron job, eh?
[02:50] <baix> gyaresu, i'm already familiar with python and i'm decent with C++, it would be nice to try to apply some of what i've learned to modify programs i already use. i guess my main question is does apt-get grab the source code and where does it put it?
[02:50] <sha1sum> is anybody knowing this? :D
[02:50] <mqueiros> Does anyone knows Why each 5 sec. I get the "^[[C" inserted in my dapper drake ? I can see it apearing in the gnome terminal...
[02:50] <iresprite> phlosten: how do you mean? This is basically a samba/apache box.
[02:50] <iresprite> nothing too special.
[02:50] <saxaphone> !dansguardian
[02:50] <ubotu> dansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0.6-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB
[02:50] <tbc2> StoneNote: me too ;)
[02:51] <Phlosten> iresprite: i am curious as to what is playing with your resolv.conf :)
[02:51] <tbc2> thats the reason for being here so late
[02:51] <gyaresu> baix: You can just download the source code to any program from their site and extract it to a directory and then mess around and compile it in that directory. Start with something that has no dependancies.
[02:51] <tbc2> its actually 2:51 ... AM!
[02:51] <sha1sum> okay maybe one more time in a more simple way: does adding or removing packages on the livecd install session change what will be installed on your HD?
[02:51] <gyaresu> If you can code a bit then you should know this (no offence meant).
[02:51] <iresprite> phlosten: fair enough. I haven't done anything special to it of late. What kind of apps are you thinking of?
[02:51] <Phlosten> iresprite: my resolv.conf just has two lines. 1st line is ip of dns server 1 and 2nd line is ip of dns server 2
[02:51] <ConstyXIV> is there a panel app that checks your mailbox?
[02:52] <kitche> ConstyXIV: I know kde has one for kmail not sure about gnome
[02:52] <iresprite> phlosten: yep. that's what my healthy static ip box has.
[02:52] <Phlosten> iresprite: is it a ubuntu box?
[02:52] <baix> gyaresu, ok thanks, was just curious if apt-get already grabbed them
[02:52] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone?  help with this WiFi issue?
[02:52] <iresprite> actually, three lines.
[02:52] <ConstyXIV> i know kde has one.  this is gnome
[02:52] <iresprite> the first one being "search foo.bar.baz.net."
[02:53] <iresprite> (well, not foo.bar.baz... but you know what I mean.)
[02:53] <Phlosten> iresprite: yeah, thats fine
[02:53] <tehxed> transgress, before i go.. "ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m && modprobe ndiswrapper" is to modprobe, right?
[02:53] <iresprite> phlosten: yes. :) 6.06.
[02:53] <Phlosten> iresprite: just copy that
[02:53] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: What is the issue?
[02:54] <iresprite> phlosten: fair enough. I'm wondering what's overwriting it, then. Or, rather,what's not starting that *should* be overwriting it.
[02:54] <transgress> tehxed: no.  just modprobe ndiswrapper at this point
[02:54] <transgress> tehxed: that other stuff was some extra one time use stuff
[02:54] <Plumy> #ubuntu-fr
[02:54] <tehxed> transgress, thank you
[02:54] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  my Athoes card worked fine in the last release of Ubuntu, but when I reinstalled the newest one, it won't connect to anything.
[02:54] <tehxed> transgress, be back in 2 to 5
[02:55] <Phlosten> iresprite: wouldnt worry too much, if editing it by hand makes it work all is good. if you loose dns in a few days or whatever then I would have a further looksee
[02:55] <iresprite> phlosten, skel-- thanks so much! Just adding the lines fixed it.
[02:55] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: You know about the iwconfig command?
[02:55] <iresprite> Phlosten: Noted.
[02:55] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: And iwlist?
[02:55] <Phlosten> iresprite: examalent
[02:55] <ConstyXIV> are there any nice gtk+ go programs?
[02:55] <skel> iresprite: =]  glad to provide input =] 
[02:56] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: are you there?
[02:56] <Phlosten> ConstyXIV: whats a 'go' program?
[02:56] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  yes I do, the card is up, but it dosen't display any active networks in the drop down menu, and when I manualy type in the SSID, it won't connect.  there is no encryption on the connection.
[02:56] <iresprite> the game?
[02:56] <ConstyXIV> Phlosten: as in, the board game
[02:56] <ConstyXIV> iresprite: yes
[02:57] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: OK. Could you open a terminal and type (depending on the device name) 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[02:57] <Phlosten> ConstyXIV: ah ok, not much of a board game person
[02:57] <heathen> ello
[02:58] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: If there's no networks then could you pastebin the output of 'iwconfig'
[02:58] <gyaresu> !hi > heathen
[02:58] <ubuntu> hey
[02:58] <iresprite> constyxiv: yeah, sorry. I've played a couple of times, but don't know much about finding an app on linux.
[02:58] <ubuntu> how can i upgrade nvidia driver
[02:58] <iresprite> constyxiv: freshmeat.net may be of some help to you there.
[02:58] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  will iwlist ath0 scan give me a list of the networks?  (I'm in my M$ box right now)
[02:58] <ubuntu> and i have installed WIndows Xp,UBuntu and KNoppix but KNoppix don't want to boot
[02:58] <kitche> !nvidia9 | ubuntu
[02:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[02:59] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i'm behind a firewall... i shouldn't have to forward port 901 because this is all internal, right?
[02:59] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: Yep. A list of the ones it sees. You've got 'broadcast essid' set to on in the access point I hope.
[02:59] <tehxed> transgress, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" right?
[02:59] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  yes, it does.  I'm going to try switching OSes and give it a try.
[03:00] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: K. I might go to the shop for pies though.
[03:00] <gyaresu> geeksauce: that's right ^^
[03:00] <ubuntu> kitche ???
[03:00] <unity> hi, was wondering what version of nfs-kernel-dameon (whatever it's called) ships with ubuntu 6.10? v3 or v4?
[03:01] <ubuntu> kitche and from web site where i an download nvidia update
[03:01] <tehxed> transgress, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" right?
[03:01] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  thanks again, I'm going to give it a try, if not, I'll wait till I get home to plug into the CAT 5
[03:02] <gyaresu> Oh. That's gonna end badly.
[03:02] <kitche> ubuntu: that is a apt repo
[03:02] <tehxed> transgress, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[03:03] <geeksauce> arrenlex, so i should have a file in /etc/xinetd.d/swat called "swat", right?
[03:03] <ubuntu> kitche ??? what that is mean
[03:03] <Talaman> gdmsetup
[03:03] <Talaman> (gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:03] <gyaresu> kitche: ubuntu Just make sure you need the latest version. I didn't see any explanation why you want to upgrade.
[03:03] <ubuntu> gyaersu i have installed nvidia drivers but they are not the latest
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Do they work?
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu in nvidia.com the version they are 1.9
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Do they work?
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu it work but not good
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Not good?
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu i see sometime lines
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Ah.
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu ????
[03:05] <no-sweat> ubuntu
[03:05] <no-sweat> hi
[03:05] <ubuntu> no-sweat:  hi
[03:05] <kitche> !hi
[03:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:05] <gyaresu> ubuntu: kitche was pointing you to a repo that has latest Nvidia package. You need to put that line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <tieTYT2> i notice that ubuntu displays all usernames when you lock the screen and choose switch user.  Isn't that a security risk?
[03:05] <heathen> hello *buntu-ians
[03:05] <tehxed> transgress, ...!?
[03:05] <ubuntu> gyaresu and how can i do it.
[03:05] <gyaresu> !repos > ubuntu
[03:06] <gyaresu> tieTYT2: Not unless they know your password.
[03:06] <ubuntu> ok
[03:06] <StoneNote> tieTYT2, physical access to the hardware is the largest security risk of all.  that's why it's always a good idea to be careful who you hire. but in a word, yes. it is a security risk
[03:06] <kitche> tieTYT2: having physical access is a security risk so them seeing those names are not a big deal
[03:07] <tieTYT2> ok so they can only see that screen if they physically access it?  They can't see it with VNC?
[03:07] <Talaman> (gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:07] <gyaresu> "physical access": There. That makes it a hat-trick.
[03:07] <Talaman> and when i reboot i get the command prompt
[03:07] <no-sweat> ubuntu live rocks
[03:08] <HSBC> Taco Bell Rates with Ubuntu
[03:08] <no-sweat> amirite?
[03:08] <HSBC> ack
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> i think nearly every system shows the logged in user when it's locked
[03:08] <gyaresu> Talaman: Did you just update your system. Or is it a fresh install. We need more information about what has transpired.
[03:08] <heathen> mmm taco bell
[03:08] <Talaman> non of the above
[03:08] <HSBC> heathen:  http://www.1010wins.com/pages/263656.php?contentType=4&contentId=346444
[03:08] <HSBC> you will not want to eat taco bell anymore :P
[03:08] <Talaman> set something and need to set it back
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> gnome, kde, windows, (mabye mac, dont know)
[03:08] <javiolo> hi
[03:08] <Talaman> don't remember what it was
[03:08] <HSBC> ecoli, rats, ill pass, just give me my ubuntu
[03:08] <jessie^^> Is there a way I can stop network-manager-gnome from rewriting my /etc/resolv.conf?
[03:08] <Talaman> when i do gdmsetup i get this
[03:08] <Talaman> (gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:09] <Assid> heya
[03:09] <MistaED> could someone help me get wine to work with com or /dev/ttyS0 ? i'm guessing you symlink in dosdevices COM1 to point to /dev/ttyS0 is this correct?
[03:09] <gyaresu> Talaman: Please give more information if you can.
[03:09] <Talaman> can't
[03:09] <Talaman> that's all info i have
[03:09] <transgress> tehxed: sorry i was away.  i don't know man.  you can try building ndiswrapper manually
[03:09] <Assid> i loaded up kubuntu-desktop, and i am currently in it, but every window looks too much like a gtk widget
[03:09] <gyaresu> Talaman: Yes because you are just getting a command prompt right?
[03:09] <sree> hey, have ubuntu edgy + broadcom 4306 wireless card.
[03:09] <Talaman> yep
[03:09] <sree> network keeps diconnecting
[03:09] <aSt3raL> sree: what network?
[03:09] <sree> could someone help
[03:09] <Talaman> but i can activate gdm
[03:09] <tehxed> transgress, that's alright
[03:10] <ConstyXIV> sree: bcm43xx or ndiswrapper
[03:10] <sree> wireless
[03:10] <Assid> everything is like a bulky bold font and the buttons are all ugly, is there any way to reset to pure kde ?
[03:10] <ConstyXIV> ?
[03:10] <tehxed> transgress, i'll.. just go back to XP eventually =\
[03:10] <kitche> sree: is this after your system goes into sleep mode?
[03:10] <a5benwillis> I have a 'small test application' that came with an NSS module that Im testing. I cant figure out how to 'execute' it
[03:10] <a5benwillis>  Ive tried sh, perl, python......
[03:10] <a5benwillis>  the instructions say "Run the test program with the -U option"
[03:10] <Talaman> just can't do anything with gdmsetup
[03:10] <sree> bcm43xx
[03:10] <gyaresu> Talaman: Could you please post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?
[03:10] <tehxed> transgress, I'm going to try and insdtall Beryl now..
[03:10] <tieTYT2> thx
[03:10] <aSt3raL> Talaman: what are you trying to do?
[03:10] <sree> no. it drops off even while i am actively using it
[03:10] <kitche> a5benwillis: you run the application ./app -U
[03:10] <Assid> hrmm i wanna try beryl too.. 512 ram is minimum tho right ?
[03:10] <ubuntu> kitche it won't worek
[03:10] <tehxed> Assid, I don't know.
[03:11] <a5benwillis> ahah
[03:11] <tehxed> Assid, I think 256 is.
[03:11] <kitche> Assid: no it runs fine on 128 megs
[03:11] <Talaman> trying to get my system to default login at the "windows" or "gui" and not the command prompt
[03:11] <tehxed> kitche, but nothing fancy with 128 megs.. right?
[03:11] <aSt3raL> sree: what wireless network?
[03:11] <kryos> Anyone have pointers,good info on setting up xorg, etc for old machine with serial mouse, etc?
[03:11] <sree> i tried to install ndiswrapper once but never managed to get it working
[03:11] <gyaresu> Talaman: can you get to the gdm login?
[03:11] <Assid> hrmm, whats the link to get it working ?
[03:11] <aSt3raL> sree: is it a home wireless?
[03:11] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[03:11] <wubrgamer> i need help
[03:11] <a5benwillis> kitche: I forgot abt that one
[03:11] <sree> yeah home wireless
[03:11] <Assid> also, how do i fix this widgetty stuff.. everything looks too ugly
[03:11] <Talaman> if i type sudo gdm from my login or gdm from the root login
[03:11] <gyaresu> Talaman: Is your computer just starting up and then crashing to the command prompt?
[03:11] <wubrgamer> really i need help, i messed up my root password for mysql
[03:11] <sree> no encryption
[03:12] <ConstyXIV> Talaman: do you mean auto-login the desktop, but not CMD?
[03:12] <tehxed> Assid, how far you along with the installation?
[03:12] <wubrgamer> how do i COMPLETELY wipe mysql and reinstall ?
[03:12] <tehxed> Assid, the beryl installation
[03:12] <kitche> tehxed: beryl tends to use the card memory more
[03:12] <Assid> tehxed: not started
[03:12] <wubrgamer> i need NOTHIGN mysql related untill after the reinstall, no personalization has been done so far
[03:12] <ubuntu> pfuuu in vmware from windows UBuntu work good,but when someone install it clean on the computer it work like shit.
[03:12] <ubuntu> GOodbye.
[03:12] <LapSmiley_> hey guys
[03:12] <tehxed> kitche, have beryl running/
[03:12] <Talaman> no, i mean i want to see a gui window asking for my user name and password instead of a command prompt
[03:12] <LapSmiley_> how would i go about installing extra hardware
[03:12] <Assid> kitche: am using ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop package
[03:12] <ConstyXIV> Talaman: you mean like the default install?
[03:13] <LapSmiley_> im a gentoo user, but i've got ubuntu on my laptop... so im looking to install the other bits, such as pcmcia.
[03:13] <aSt3raL> sree: have you tried network manager applet?
[03:13] <gyaresu> Talaman: Do you want help? If so could you maybe answer the questions? I've already asked you to post your Xorg log to pastebin. ConstyXIV please look up.
[03:13] <kitche> tehxed: not now but I ran it it ran pretty smooth for me on 256 megs and a 64 mb DDR2 geforce 2 card
[03:13] <sree> yeah I did... it showed up all the netorks.. but when i selected it did not connect to any
[03:13] <aSt3raL> sree: there also is a ndiswrapper gui for gnome
[03:13] <HSBC> hi
[03:13] <tehxed> kitche, that's pretty good to hear
[03:14] <kitche> Talaman: you probably disabled gdm on boot
[03:14] <HSBC> yay i got +v?
[03:14] <geeksauce> SWAT is giving me a giant headache.  i have followed these instructions to get it up and running on the ubuntu forums, and i can't even get it to where it's listening on port 901
[03:14] <Assid> tehxed: got a link for me to use? i got a amd1800, 256 ram (2 ram slots dead on my mobo) and geforce2 mx 440se
[03:14] <blaze> !firewall
[03:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:14] <sree> what does the gui actually give ?
[03:14] <Talaman> gyaresu, i am getting it...i am also being asked questions by other people...and if i recall i got less help from you last time i asked about this problem
[03:14] <HSBC> oops
[03:14] <SmileyLap> !hardware
[03:14] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:14] <blaze> !games
[03:14] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:14] <ConstyXIV> Talaman: if you're running the default (k|x)ubuntu, that happens by default
[03:14] <HSBC> !help
[03:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:14] <HSBC> !google
[03:14] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[03:14] <tehxed> Assid, just reading up myself. I don't know much about Ubuntu or linux really. Just trying it out
[03:14] <HSBC> !Google Marissa
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google marissa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <HSBC> lol
[03:15] <tehxed> Assid, let me see if I can find you a link.
[03:15] <kitche> !fishing | HSBC
[03:15] <ubotu> HSBC: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:15] <Assid> thanks
[03:15] <Talaman> what happends by default, and what screen controls that default?
[03:15] <gyaresu> Talaman: I don't think I've ever helped you but best of luck.
[03:15] <Talaman> and how do i set it back to default
[03:15] <Assid> on another issue, anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop using gnome stuff? and use pure kde? the windows are looking too much like gtk widgets
[03:16] <kitche> Talaman: go to /etc/init.d and see if gdm is green
[03:16] <Assid> i am currently using kubuntu-desktop package
[03:16] <Talaman> and no gyaresu, you never have
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> Assid: go to System Settings-Apperance, and check to see if you're using gtk or kde apps
[03:16] <elyon225> Short of restarting X, what can I do when my desktop disappears?
[03:16] <elyon225> ...background, all icons... gone.
[03:17] <bulmer> did you happen to go to the console?
[03:17] <HSBC> brains need play and work and ubuntu
[03:17] <HSBC> :)
[03:17] <ConstyXIV> Assid: i meant to say, system settings-appearance, change all the themes to kde-ish stuff, and make sure youre actually using kde apps
[03:17] <gyaresu> kitche: 'ls -l /etc/rc2.d/' all the K's are stopped. All the S's are started.
[03:18] <yomm>   does "sudo reboot" does exactly the same as "sudo shutdown -r now" ?
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> yomm: more or less, yes
[03:18] <tehxed> Assid, http://www.beryl-project.org/faq.php#gq5
[03:18] <tehxed> Assid, that's a pretty high standard. I think they need to get that checked.
[03:18] <Talaman> kitche> it appears to be the same color as everything else there
[03:18] <yomm> Consty : I heard the shutdown is the safest bet ..
[03:19] <charles> any network experts here? I'm having a hell of a time setting up my gateway
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> yomm: or, if you would rather, "sudo init 6"
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> yomm: no difference from what I know
[03:19] <yomm> Is that the safest , Consty ?
[03:19] <sha1sum> okay... so what's the ubiquity equivalent of the boot option 'priority=low' for debian-installer.... installing feisty (already verified it works)  If there's not an equivalent, is the ability to use debian-installer still available?
[03:19] <aSt3raL> charles: whats the problem?
[03:19] <yomm> I see !
[03:19] <sha1sum> <---- control freak
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> yomm: i don't think there's any difference, but someone will correct me if im wrong :)
[03:20] <kitche> Talaman: hmm maybe /etc/rc2.d is setup wrong I don't know to much about that fodler sicne I tend to like the BSD-style init system so I only play around with /etc/init.d folder and not /etc/rc2.d
[03:20] <charles> I can't get through my gateway to a public ip behind it
[03:20] <tehxed> charles, Gateway laptop?
[03:20] <aSt3raL> heh
[03:20] <charles> no, network gateway
[03:20] <sha1sum> heheheh
[03:20] <aSt3raL> charles: what sort of internet connection?
[03:20] <Talaman> so if i am in the gui (kde) what would i click on to set the gui login to default?
[03:20] <fulat2k> any idea what could cause my edgy installation to reload the login screen when coming back from a Suspend operation?
[03:20] <sree> anyone think they can help me ?
[03:21] <aSt3raL> sree:  msg me
[03:21] <blaze> Any of you all play any games on *nix?
[03:21] <charles> dsl -> (eth0: gateway : eth2) -> other machine with public ip
[03:21] <yomm> Consty : many subtle differences on Linux sometimes :)
[03:21] <ConstyXIV> blaze: define "games"
[03:21] <gyaresu> sree: or post your question and get everyones help...
[03:21] <sha1sum> why are everybody else's questions so quick to get answered? lol
[03:21] <aSt3raL> charles: do you have any other machine working with this connection?
[03:21] <fulat2k> used to work b4 i installed Beryl.  but it still doesn't work properly even with beryl uninstalled.
[03:21] <blaze> how do you define games?
[03:22] <blaze> I mean things you play for fun
[03:22] <Linuturk> can I install Ubuntu from a floppy drive? I don't have a cdrom drive
[03:22] <Assid> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]  (rev a3)
[03:22] <Assid> that qualifies?
[03:22] <jrib> sha1sum: you can use the alternate cd
[03:22] <n2diy> sha1sum: the answers are known.
[03:22] <blaze> but locally
[03:22] <blaze> I don't mean wargames
[03:22] <aSt3raL> sree has a broadcom wireless issue
[03:22] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7292/
[03:22] <techie1> I thought the ubuntu disk had xchat in it to communicate in here but I had to go back to windows xp do so .
[03:22] <Linuturk> sree: i've found ndiswrapper to be best for broadcom
[03:22] <jrib> !alternate | sha1sum
[03:22] <ubotu> sha1sum: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> blaze: hacking the kernel and recompiling for fun and profit :)
[03:22] <aSt3raL> techie1: sudo apt-get xchat
[03:22] <Linuturk> is there a floppy based installer for Ubuntu?
[03:22] <techie1> Also are there any icons on the lower part of the screen
[03:22] <Linuturk> I have net access, just no CD drive
[03:23] <Assid> ConstyXIV: you know the exact themes.. still looks a little too widgetty
[03:23] <jeff22> hi, where do I get the package gnome-ppp?
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> techie1: i think we dropped it from the default because gaim also does irc
[03:23] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Why aren't you using the Realtek 8139. That works out of the box...
[03:23] <Linuturk> gaim for irc == fail
[03:23] <techie1> is gaim part of the program?
[03:23] <Linuturk> !floppy
[03:23] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[03:23] <charles> aSt3raL, yeah I'm connected through the machine right now
[03:23] <techie1> I did not see it.
[03:23] <Linuturk> !floppy install
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floppy install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <aSt3raL> charles: with ubuntu?
[03:23] <Yggdrasil> gy its acting up
[03:24] <aSt3raL> charles: whats the problem then?
[03:24] <techie1> also ubotu when you install via livecd does it partition automatically even though I have windows xp in my system?
[03:24] <charles> aSt3raL, right now I'm connected through a nat'd machine. the other machine wont connect
[03:24] <SpacePuppy> techie1: nope.. you gotta do it manually
[03:24] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu this is a box, thats stuck inside of a bucket and runs on my rooftop
[03:24] <sree> I tried installing ndiswrapper without success
[03:24] <aSt3raL> ubotu is a bot heh
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot heh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <tehxed> Does anyone the x-server driver's name for an ATI Radeon X200M?
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> blaze: on a more serious note, i do tend to play a good bit of mahjongg and holotz-castle, but that's because my lappy has no 3d
[03:24] <charles> aSt3raL, the two machines behind the gateway are ubuntu, the gateway itself is debian
[03:24] <sree> however I also have a dapper version that works perfectly fine
[03:24] <sree> with network manager
[03:24] <pryme> How do you add aspell or hash to abiword?
[03:24] <AndrewB> !ati | tehxed
[03:24] <ubotu> tehxed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <Assid> should i use the aiglx method?
[03:25] <aSt3raL> charles: so one machine works and the other doesnt?
[03:25] <Assid> that says recommended.. then it says may not work
[03:25] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: So you want to get the second card up for some other purpose?
[03:25] <tehxed> AndrewB, Thanks
[03:25] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu that realtek is broken, its only functional part of the time
[03:25] <Talaman> so if i am in the gui (kde) what would i click on to set the gui login to default?
[03:25] <aSt3raL> charles: can you ask a more specific question?
[03:25] <techie1> Anyone is the double boot install with windows xp straightforward?
[03:25] <Yggdrasil> i hd to write a script that restarts that eth0 on boot to get it up on a regular basis
[03:26] <charles> aSt3raL, I can get out from both machines, I can get in to the nat'd machine through port forwarding, I can't get to the public machine from the oustide
[03:26] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Ah. And the box is actually already in the roof? So you are connecting via Wireless?
[03:26] <aSt3raL> techie1: yes
[03:26] <HowDoIResetTheGu> hmm
[03:26] <AndrewB> techie1: very. Install Windows first then GNU/Linux second. Make sure you have two partitions and its all easy.
[03:26] <khaije1> anyone now how fiesty is coming along?
[03:26] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu yes, its used as a wireless gateway
[03:26] <khaije1> *know
[03:26] <AndrewB> khaije1: Very well. :)
[03:26] <aSt3raL> charles: you probably have to set up port forwarding to get into a machine from the internet for all machines
so i have to partition manually first
[03:27] <AndrewB> techie1: can do it from windows.
[03:27] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Was the Lite-On card working before?
[03:27] <techie1> I already have windows xp
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> no
explain further
[03:27] <aSt3raL> charles: your dsl router has the only public ip address
[03:27] <charles> aSt3raL, the other machine has it's own IP, so it should have it's own ports
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> well i assume it works
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> cant see why it wouldnt
[03:27] <khaije1> AndrewB: it's expected to stick to the scheduled release window then?
[03:27] <AndrewB> techie1: what file system you using on Windows?
you mean going to NTFS
[03:27] <aSt3raL> charles: what ip address is that?
[03:27] <charles> aSt3raL, i own a block of 8 ips
[03:27] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: 'ifconfig'?
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu ive got all day tomorow to play with it, its working for now . but i wanted to get it stable again
[03:27] <techie1> using NTFS for the partition
[03:27] <techie1> in windows xp professional
[03:27] <AndrewB> Ok
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu i gtta go are you gonna be on tomorrow
go ahead, i am listneing
[03:28] <Yggdrasil> problem is when i mess with the box i cant be online.
[03:28] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Dunno. Maybe see you then.
[03:28] <charles> aSt3raL, my network's gateway is 65.101.241.134, my personal gateway is 65.101.241.129, the other public ip is 65.101.241.1332
[03:28] <Yggdrasil> yar thanks for the hel
[03:28] <techie1> do i need system rescue to partition before installing
[03:28] <Yggdrasil> help
[03:28] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: np. See you tomorrow.
[03:28] <sree> oh what does the ndiswrapper gui give me ?
[03:29] <aSt3raL> sree: just a way to set up a driver with ndis
[03:29] <Vilhelms> Ugh, for some reason I can't open some programs... like random programs. I wasn't able to open Gnome X-chat but I can open xchat. I can't open x-terminal-emulator, I can't open bluefish, Its weird. :(
[03:29] <AndrewB> techie1: two secs looking up a guide for you
do I need to partition with system rescue before installing off the livecd?
ok, thanks.
[03:29] <sree> does it make it easy to setup ndiswrapper and blacklist bcmw43xx
[03:30] <sree> i mean i have tried this whole process of installing ndiswrapper many times on edgy without success
[03:30] <Yggdrasil> bbl
[03:30] <aSt3raL> bah if you two with networking problems want to msg me thats great
[03:30] <aSt3raL> this channel scrolls too much
[03:30] <metafour> Hi all, I'm downloading Ubuntu as my first distribution and wnated to know how to have fluxbox installed and gnome removed
[03:30] <sree> aSt3raL .. how can i message u ?
[03:30] <simpla> Heya
[03:30] <Assid> E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386
[03:30] <Assid> hrmm
[03:31] <aSt3raL> sree:  /msg aSt3raL message
[03:31] <Assid> what am i supposed to use?
[03:31] <elyon225> Short of restarting X, what can I do when my desktop disappears?
[03:31] <elyon225> ...background, all icons... gone.
I am actually trying to do a double boot with half/half with whatever space I got left which is about 23 gig
[03:31] <aSt3raL> elyon225: you could try and restart gdm
[03:31] <AndrewB> I am not sure if gParted supports NTFS. Can anybody vairfy?
[03:31] <aSt3raL> it does not afiak
[03:32] <JucaBlues> how do I upgrade rhytmbox to a newer version?
[03:32] <AndrewB> Didnt think so
[03:32] <tehxed> Anyone know how I can get my video card's bus identifier
[03:32] <simpla> Can anyone help me with dualbooting ubuntu and Windows XP with Grub.  I have 2 hdds, linux on one, and windows on the other.
[03:32] <JucaBlues> rhythmbox --version
[03:32] <JucaBlues> Gnome rhythmbox 0.9.6
[03:32] <JucaBlues> but I want to have 0.9.8
[03:32] <tehxed> Anyone know how I can get my video card's bus identifier
[03:32] <aSt3raL> JucaBlues: run synaptic package manager
[03:32] <simpla> It comes up with errors when I try to boot from either through the grub menu.  If I pull one of the hdd's out, it works..  Any ideas on whats going on, or where I could look to help solve it?
[03:32] <geeksauce> alright sweet... i got swat to ask for auth info.  what do i put there?  it isn't accepting my normal info there
Then Probably I must do it manually with system rescue and then install the livecd. Anybody knows?
[03:33] <AndrewB> techie1: yeah looks that way.
[03:33] <techie1> ok, good enough for me. thanks. I will report back and let you all know.
[03:33] <techie1> thanks for all the input.
[03:33] <techie1> bye for now.
[03:34] <vox754> I want to watch TV with vlc. It gives me an error that the "chroma" is not set or something like that. Any experience? I also have tried totem, and mplayer and so far I can only watch TV with xawtv.
[03:35] <simpla> join #grub
[03:35] <RxDx> what program should i use to up musics on ipod?
[03:35] <geeksauce> what should i be entering for the authentication info for SWAT?
[03:35] <JucaBlues> aSt3raL: I have opened synaptic. It says I have rhythmbox 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 installed
[03:35] <posingaspopular> RxDx: transfer to ipod?
[03:35] <RxDx> posingaspopular, yes
[03:35] <JucaBlues> but I want 0.9.8.How would I install that?
[03:35] <Ironman273> How come Rhythmbox doesn't play MP3s?  It says it need Gstreamer?
[03:35] <jeff22> does anyone know where I can get gnome-ppp package?
[03:36] <sree> aSt3raL.. why ain't u responding.... ain't u getting my messages ?
[03:36] <AndrewB> RxDx: gtkpod ?
[03:36] <RxDx> AndrewB, thanks, ill try
[03:36] <posingaspopular> RxDx: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[03:36] <jessie^^> anyone know of an app I can use to monitor system temperature?
[03:36] <RxDx> posingaspopular, thanks
[03:36] <charles> sree, no luck for me either
[03:36] <AndrewB> sree: you need to be registered user on Freenode to send private messages.
[03:36] <geeksauce> SWAT help, anyone?
[03:36] <aSt3raL> JucaBlues: if its showing the latest version is installed than it should be
[03:37] <AndrewB> jessie^^: sensors
[03:37] <aSt3raL> sree: no i am not
[03:37] <posingaspopular> np
[03:37] <sree> AndrewB how do i do that ?
[03:37] <heathen> stupid laptop overheating
[03:37] <JucaBlues> is there a way to intall a newer version of a software that was not packaged by ubuntu yet?
[03:37] <AndrewB> sree: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[03:38] <mikere> JucaBlues: there's always compiling from source
[03:38] <AndrewB> sree: the person who you are PM'ing also needs to be registered.
[03:38] <Assid> tehxed: which method did you use to install
[03:38] <AndrewB> JucaBlues: get a very very new apt repo, or compile from source or CVS/SVN
[03:38] <aSt3raL_> sree:  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[03:39] <tehxed> Assid, give me link again
[03:39] <tehxed> Assid, i'm configuring xserver-xorg
[03:39] <jessie^^> AndrewB: installed it, how do i get it on the panel?
[03:39] <f> libero
[03:39] <JucaBlues> mikere: thanks
[03:39] <Assid> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:39] <JucaBlues> AndrewB: thanks
[03:39] <AndrewB> jessie^^: oh on the panel? Im not sure.
[03:40] <AndrewB> jessie^^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[03:40] <geeksauce> default SWAT password is???
[03:40] <BelialMkII> At the start of this tutorial, where can i find the menu it is asking me to change things in on edgy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[03:40] <Assid> tehxed:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:40] <yomm>  /exit
[03:41] <tehxed> Assid, Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:41] <Assid> tehxed: aiglx?
[03:41] <kalikiana> How can I open a MS Works file (wps) or convert it to another format?
[03:41] <AndrewB> BelialMkII: your menu editor maybe hiding these options. check them out in menu editor.
[03:42] <tehxed> probably going to ..with the ati
[03:42] <BelialMkII> Will do, thanks AndrewB
[03:42] <AndrewB> np
[03:42] <FuzzyTheBear> got a problem fixing a machine .. trying to mount a ntfs volume to delete a bunch of files that are part of a bad trojan but it says even with the -w in the mount .. cant do it .. it's read only .. so im wondering if a ubuntu cd has a kernel with ntfs write options ? id very much appreciate the help . Thanks
[03:42] <sree>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[03:42] <fnf> Is there an app/Firefox extension that works on non-RSS enabled sites ?. I mean there're sites that don't have RSS Feeds but I want to automatically check when the page is changed.
[03:42] <geeksauce> anyone know what the default login info is for SWAT?
[03:42] <sree>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY swatcat
[03:43] <gyaresu> kalikiana: Have you tried OpenOffice. (I can't remember if it likes wps files or not)
[03:43] <sree> i tried this... didn't work
[03:43] <AndrewB> fnf: unlikly tbh.. to scrape off a page is a hard task.
[03:43] <geeksauce> anyone know what the default login info is for SWAT?
[03:43] <kalikiana> gyaresu, I did, doesn't work. :/
[03:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Got it to work, eh? That's a good question. I've always used the root account.
[03:43] <zpertee> error locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory.  Anyone know what this is all about
[03:44] <fnf> AndrewB: I think it wouldn't be hard to implement though, just periodically download the page then diff with the old file.
[03:44] <gyaresu> kalikiana: I know MSOffice can't even open them. (How dumb is that?)
[03:44] <AndrewB> fnf: I suppose so.. hmm. I have never heard of it tho..
[03:44] <fnf> AndrewB: Thanks anyway.
[03:44] <AndrewB> fnf: good luck
[03:45] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah i followed those directions on that page you gave me.  the file i had to add had a comment line suggesting that i change to a restricted user instead of root
[03:45] <fnf> AndrewB: The hard part is actually the UI that holds me from writing one :) .
[03:45] <kalikiana> gyaresu, I read in a forum that MS recommends to save it as RTF to open it in MS Office *harhar
[03:45] <geeksauce> arrenlex, which i did, but it won't take my regular login info now
[03:45] <gyaresu> kalikiana: Which doesn't help you any.
[03:46] <tom__>  /msg ubotu
[03:46] <elpargo> hi anyone knows if there is a openGL package for freeciv?
[03:47] <FuzzyTheBear> can a reent ubuntu live cd do write operations on a ntfs partition ?
[03:47] <FuzzyTheBear> can a recent ubuntu live cd do write operations on a ntfs partition ?
[03:47] <FuzzyTheBear> sorry .. bad typing
[03:47] <scienceboy> hello again. i am a complete linux n00b. i use the synaptic program to download and install gnuchess, but it didn't turn up under applications>games. also, i don't know how to acess ~/.mozilla/firefox/ so that i can transfer my firefox settings from one computer to another
[03:47] <gyaresu> kalikiana: shazam! http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=32E7205A-3880-4416-9260-57A96C8A9A76&displaylang=en
[03:47] <arrenlex> geeksauce: You're outside the scope if my experience with swat now, sorry. = /
[03:47] <gyaresu> kalikiana: not very Linuxy but maybe with Wine?
[03:48] <arrenlex> Hisss! microsoft.com! It burnssss uss.
[03:48] <sree> :(
[03:48] <AndrewB> scienceboy: a .foo folder is hidden. on your browser go to View.. then hidden files.
[03:48] <AndrewB> scienceboy: as for the other go into a terminal and enter gnuchess   and hit enter.
[03:48] <hairulfr> I have a cd with a scratch on, when reading normally, the file is ok, but when ripping (it needs to be an *.iso it doesn't work) anyway to slow down gnomebaker and make it more accurate
[03:48] <vox754> FuzzyTheBear, have you tried installing !fuse with the live CD
[03:48] <vox754> !fuse
[03:48] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:48] <contents> Hey all, I've got a problem with my desktop. I've mounted a fat partition, and then later decided to change the name of the partition. So I changed the name in /etc/fstab and made a new folder in /media with the new name. But when I restart, the folder on the desktop still has the old name.
[03:48] <jramsey> apt-get cmd to install the kernel headers for dapper pls?
[03:49] <scienceboy> andrewB: what is a .foo file? i did that and i see it
[03:49] <AndrewB> scienceboy: any directory with a . at the beginning [a prefix]  is a hidden dir.
[03:49] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ok.  well back to the original dilema... how to allow XP machines to view SMB shares without authentication
[03:49] <contents> Does anyone have any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:49] <elpargo> FuzzyTheBear, no the kernel driver is not that stable
[03:49] <AndrewB> scienceboy: normally for settings of programs.
[03:50] <scienceboy> andrewb: thank you! but what about the file i dled and installed from synaptic?
[03:50] <sree> guys trying to register keeps telling me sree nickname is taken
[03:50] <sree> how do i register as another name ?
[03:50] <gyaresu> sree: change your nick then try again.
[03:50] <AndrewB> sree: /nick newNick   /msg nickserv register [pass] 
[03:50] <FuzzyTheBear> elpargo  :  thank you  :)
[03:50] <heathen> people register tjeir nics?
[03:50] <posingaspopular> sree: you need to /msg NickServ
[03:50] <jramsey> how do i install the latest kernel headers compatible with my version of ubuntu?
[03:51] <cafuego_> heathen: of course, can't have some kid somewhere pretending to be me.
[03:51] <arrenlex> geeksauce: http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf <-- Like that. Best answer I can give you. xD Sorry. The name in square brackets, like [AlexD] , is the share name. guest ok=yes is important for each one. security = SHARE is important in global -- that's the cornerstone for not having to enter a password. As for the rest, swat says it works, and it does.
[03:51] <AndrewB> scienceboy: try going into a terminal and typing   'gnuchess'
[03:51] <aSt3raL_> sree: are you using a windows driver with ndiswrapper or a linux driver?
[03:51] <heathen> lol...  well, since heathen was taken before me,,,  guess im that kid
[03:51] <arrenlex> !headers | jramsey
[03:51] <ubotu> jramsey: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[03:51] <jramsey> arrenlex, ty
[03:51] <jeff22> how do I connect to the internet without a gnome-ppp package (I can't find one)
[03:51] <cafuego_> heathen: it emans that when the real heathen comes back online, they might disconnect you and take the nick
[03:52] <scienceboy> andrewb: ok, i will try
[03:52] <scienceboy> brb
[03:52] <dewey> jeff22,  install kppp
[03:52] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hmm, do you think it could be a setting on the windows computer trying to access my shares?
[03:52] <heathen> been using it for a while,,, not too worried
[03:52] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Does that same computer access other Windows computers' shares without problems?
[03:52] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Have you restarted samba since changing the conf?
[03:52] <jeff22> dewey kppp isn't available on the ubuntu disk either
[03:53] <cafuego_> heathen: it's been unused for 2 years and a bit, i expect you could probably get a staff member to delete the registration for you, so you cna register it
[03:53] <geeksauce> arrenlex, good question... let me see
[03:53] <heathen> caf,  how would i go about that?
[03:54] <cafuego_> heathen: check the www.freenode.net site for docs and faq :-)
[03:54] <heathen> thx
[03:54] <Celldweller> alaright i had to reformat my laptop its a dell latitude 510, and now i can't get the dadgum onboard wifi card to get working again
[03:54] <jramsey> arrenlex, i keep getting an error when i try installing any pkg; i just updated to dapper: error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7299/
[03:54] <Ironman273> Is the root password different than my password?
[03:54] <Celldweller> can anayone help lol
[03:54] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Yes, in that there isn't one.
[03:55] <posingaspopular> Ironman273: i dont think so
[03:55] <posingaspopular> what are you trying to do
[03:55] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yes it can view other windows shares on other windows computers with no auth.  there is a setting on the serving xp boxes called "simple file sharing" that is enabled, though.  i don't know how to set that in linux, though
[03:55] <Ironman273> So if I type "su" and it asks for my root password it should be nothing?
[03:55] <Kaline> What Cafuego said, there is no password for root by default.
[03:55] <arrenlex> jramsey: And what happens if you type no and press enter?
[03:55] <cafuego_> Ironman273: You should type 'sudo -s' instead of 'su' and enter your own password.
[03:55] <Celldweller> if you just installed ubuntu it's your own password
[03:55] <Kaline> Ironman273: Use 'sudo -s'.
[03:55] <Celldweller> installed it (again)
[03:55] <Celldweller> lol
[03:56] <mptech> can the ubuntu/xubuntu installer non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions?
[03:56] <Kaline> irssi is nice. :E
[03:56] <posingaspopular> sudo passwd changes the password too
[03:56] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ubuntu uses sudo and has the root account disabled by default, for security reasons.
[03:56] <Ironman273> cafuego: I'm trying to install java.  The instructions say to use su. You learn something new
[03:56] <Ironman273> :)
[03:56] <cafuego_> Ironman273: What instructions?
[03:56] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And you have restarted samba since changing the conf?
[03:56] <Celldweller> lol can someone remind me how to get my broadcom 43xx blah blah to work again? =)
[03:56] <hairulfr> Ironman273: www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:57] <jessie^^> i have an hp pavillion dv6245us notebook. I don't need anything special to tell the fan to run, do I?
[03:57] <Ironman273> cafuego_: The instructions on the java website
[03:57] <cafuego_> Ironman273: You shouldn't need any odd instructions at all, there are ubuntu packages.
[03:57] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i haven't changed the samba config at all... i'll double-check but everything seems to be in order
[03:57] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Don't suse those, please :-)
[03:57] <Ironman273> cafuego_: from the sfotware packages?
[03:57] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf for me, I want to look through it.
[03:57] <hairulfr> Ironman273: Don't use those,
[03:57] <Ironman273> Oops
[03:57] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Yeah, java is prepackaged (with plugin and everything)
[03:57] <cafuego_> unless you're on non-x86 hardware
[03:58] <geeksauce> arrenlex, thanks man, i appreciate it.  hang on i'll pastebin that for you
[03:58] <Ironman273> cafuego_: I have to get used to this software package thing.  I'm used to downloading everything :S
[03:58] <sgtmattbaker>  I have an extended partition I just created.  The logical partitions that are inside of it seem to be mounted by default as usbdisk's.. how do I automount them?
[03:58] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Make sure the 'multiverse' repository is enabled, then simply 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[03:58] <Pelo> can someone tell me how to fix this error msg each time i try to use mplayer  ? : "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"
[03:59] <Celldweller> please help me with the onboard chipset lol
[03:59] <sgtmattbaker> could someone start a private conversation to tell me how to automount my new partitions
[03:59] <Ironman273> cafuego_: OK, but I find the "Add/Remove Application" thing easier...  give a n00b a break ;)
[03:59] <Celldweller> i've been searching for hours
[03:59] <jramsey> arrenlex, i get this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/369869
[03:59] <cafuego_> Pelo: Fix the config file or run 'mplayer -vo xv <file>'
[03:59] <Pelo> Celldweller,  try looking it up in the forum
[03:59] <Celldweller> and whataever i did athe first time i forgot
[03:59] <kitche> Pelo: for me that message goes away if I add my user to the video group
[03:59] <Celldweller> i did
[03:59] <Celldweller> it's notvery cleara
[03:59] <cafuego_> Ironman273: synaptic will be fine too :-)
[03:59] <arrenlex> jramsey: try apt-get remove --purge j2sdk1.4-doc
[04:00] <cafuego_> Ironman273: cli is just a tad quicker, once you know the package names
[04:00] <sgtmattbaker>  I have an extended partition I just created.  The logical partitions that are inside of it seem to be mounted by default as usbdisk's.. how do I automount them?
[04:00] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7300/
[04:00] <kalikiana> gyaresu, That program you posted is for MS Word only. :/
[04:00] <Ironman273> cafuego_: There's a Java 5.0 plugin and a Java 1.4 plugin for firefox.  Should 5.0 plugin be enough?
[04:00] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Yup.
[04:00] <AndrewB> !fstab | sgtmattbaker
[04:01] <ubotu> sgtmattbaker: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:01] <jramsey> arrenlex, just remove it?? nothing else after that?
[04:01] <Ironman273> cafuego_: BTW, the cli gave me an error
[04:01] <Pelo> cafuego,  the config file is mty , what do you suggest I put it
[04:01] <gyaresu> kalikiana: I've just been messing around with it under wine. Can't find where it installs though.
[04:02] <rswitzer> can someone help me configure multiple soundcards?
[04:02] <arrenlex> jramsey: Did it remove successfully?
[04:02] <Ironman273> cafuego_: but synaptic seems to be working fine
[04:02] <jramsey> arrenlex, yep
[04:02] <arrenlex> jramsey: Then you're set.
[04:02] <arrenlex> jramsey: Unless you actually need java docs.
[04:02] <jramsey> arrenlex, ok txs ... nah i dont really need them i just need synaptic to run when i want to add pkgs
[04:03] <AndrewB> rswitzer: checkout http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Multisounds/
[04:03] <Ironman273> Are there any predefined folders for documents, music, photos, etc?  (I know, it's probably a typical Windows question)
[04:03] <rswitzer> thanks
[04:03] <contents> Could someone help me rename a partition? I renamed it in fstab, but the desktop still shows the old name.
[04:03] <AndrewB> rswitzer: never done it tho ;)
[04:03] <prem> higrp,could any 1 help me??
[04:03] <`Z`> poy
[04:03] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Nope, just create your own
[04:04] <Ironman273> cafuego_: In my home directory?
[04:04] <cafuego_> Ironman273: I prefer to recreate the Mac OS folders - yes.
[04:04] <AndrewB> prem: ask your question.
[04:04] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What name d'you want for this machine? I can't even find one in the conf.
[04:04] <Ironman273> cafuego_: Not familiar with Mac OS
[04:04] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Documents Pictures Movies
[04:04] <Regner> is there any good tutorials/walkthroughs for setting up samba for a home NAS ?
[04:05] <geeksauce> the xbox recognizes it as john_desktop i think
[04:05] <AndrewB> cafuego_: whats up? I am semi familure with MacOS
[04:05] <prem> AndrewB,my volume control crashed!!
[04:05] <cafuego_> I also use Library to hold lihks to config directories and fonts etc
[04:05] <xtknight> w000000t...any questions?
[04:05] <geeksauce> arrenlex, the xbox recognizes it as john_desktop i think
[04:05] <Ironman273> cafuego: Java is saying it's having dependency problems... :-S
[04:05] <AndrewB> prem: sudo alsamixer
[04:05] <prem> AndrewB,http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411346 this might help u
[04:05] <JoseStefan> My grub meny doesn't show the "grub version" line at the top, is that normal? i think i messed it up
[04:05] <AndrewB> oh
[04:05] <JoseStefan> menu*
[04:05] <xtknight> !gwos
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <cafuego_> Ironman273: That probaly means the universe and multiverse repositories are missing
[04:06] <Pelo> JoseStefan,  #grub
[04:06] <chipbuddy> so i just recently got a hard drive partition recognized and mounted with ubuntu, but i can't change permissions on it. sudo chmod 777 music doesn't change anything
[04:06] <chipbuddy> what do i do?
[04:06] <zpertee> how do I Enable universe repositories?  Help is much appreciated
[04:06] <AndrewB> prem: ok....no clue sorry to say.
[04:06] <Ironman273> cafuego: I went back to synaptic and it says I have 2 broken packages in my system.  How do I fix them?
[04:06] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: is it a FAT32 or NTFS partition?
[04:06] <chipbuddy> fat32
[04:06] <xtknight> chipbuddy: perhaps you need to mount the partition with a umask of 022
[04:06] <Pelo> chipbuddy, 755
[04:06] <xtknight> 777-755=022 umask
[04:07] <mptech> can the ubuntu/xubuntu installer non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions?
[04:07] <arrenlex> geeksauce: This box sharing a printer?
[04:07] <chipbuddy> in fstab when i'm mounting it?
[04:07] <xtknight> chipbuddy: yes in options for that fstab line
[04:07] <AndrewB> zpertee: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:07] <prem> AndrewB,dude i could open volume panel with i command u just gave me...how to change sound settings??
[04:07] <Regner> what is the name of the program that will test the apt mirrors and find the fastest one for you ?
[04:07] <chipbuddy> thansk
[04:07] <chipbuddy> thanks
[04:07] <AndrewB> prem: it is als ncurses based. arrow keys etc.
[04:07] <geeksauce> arrenlex, nope
[04:07] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: fat32 doesn't support file permissions (at all) so you need to set it at boot time via fstab.
[04:07] <chipbuddy> ah... so everyone on my system can do anything to the fat partition?
[04:08] <prem> AndrewB,my master volume is mute
[04:08] <Ironman273> cafuego: It said to search with the term "broken" and when I did it came up with "Synaptic Package Manager" and "Klean Sweep" (which is not installed)
[04:08] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: Not if you add a uid=<your uid> option
[04:08] <xtknight> chipbuddy: yea as long as windows isn't governing the partition in any way.  windows loses control of it when you access the partition from antoher OS.  that parition is not encrypted
[04:08] <herpez> hi, im having some troubles installing beryl on an ati radeon x700, it crashes when i load beryl manager, where can i get help
[04:08] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: use uid/gid/umask to determine ownership and permissions
[04:08] <AndrewB> prem: a sec..
[04:08] <AndrewB> prem: hit M
[04:08] <AndrewB> try that
[04:09] <cafuego_> Ironman273: urrmmm...
[04:09] <BelialMkII> whats the package name for sshd in ubuntu
[04:09] <cafuego_> BelialMkII: openssh-server
[04:09] <AndrewB> BelialMkII: ssh-server
[04:09] <BelialMkII> thanks
[04:09] <AndrewB> or that ;)
[04:09] <Ironman273> cafuego: Great.  I broke Ubuntu in less than 24 hours
[04:09] <cafuego_> Ironman273: <hehe>
[04:09] <AndrewB> Ironman273: one way to learn.
[04:09] <jessie^^> i have an hp pavillion dv6245us notebook. I don't need anything special to tell the fan to run, do I?
[04:09] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Did you enable multiverse and universe in synaptic?
[04:09] <xtknight> i break ubuntu every 24 hours
[04:09] <tehxed> How the hell do I apply a theme in Beryl?
[04:09] <Ironman273> cafuego: Yes
[04:10] <Regner> BelialMkII: openssh-server
[04:10] <xtknight> tehxed: emerald theme manager
[04:10] <eternalswd> anyone experienced with writing xevent polling functionality in c++?
[04:10] <tehxed> yeah, i'm in there
[04:10] <tehxed> now i want to apply one
[04:10] <tehxed> how?!
[04:10] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ok, open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update' (make sure synaptic is not running)
[04:10] <xtknight> tehxed: click one
[04:10] <vox754> mptech, it should be safe to resize the partition. You should defragment the drive first.
[04:10] <tehxed> xtknight, i did
[04:10] <tehxed> nothing happens
[04:10] <AndrewB> eternalswd: try in ##c++
[04:10] <xtknight> tehxed: maybe there's an issue with yor beryl.  mine themes it when i simply click one of the themes inthe list
[04:10] <Ironman273> cafuego: it fetched 3Bytes
[04:10] <tehxed> xtknight, let me restart
[04:11] <cafuego_> Ironman273: That will update the lists of available packages.
[04:11] <xtknight> tehxed: just restart your wm maybe? (i.e. beryl-manager)..
[04:11] <Ironman273> cafuego: It still lists the same 2 packages under "broken"
[04:11] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ok, now run 'sudo apt-get -f install'  - that SHOULD fetch the missing package(s) that is/are causing java to be broken.
[04:11] <xtknight> jessie^^: no, but you can use a special 'governor' to govern fan/cpu frequency scaling
[04:12] <angasule> !burn
[04:12] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:12] <prem> AndrewB,any way to get back the default volume manager?
[04:12] <xtknight> jessie^^: other than that the fan is generally on full speed
[04:12] <armenb> hi
[04:12] <Ironman273> cafuego: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[04:12] <n3rrd> Would anyone happen to know why a burnt Ubuntu install disc will pass the integrity check on one computer, but fail on another?  It passes on a more modern computer, but fails on an IBM T21.
[04:12] <AndrewB> prem: I ain't sure I am sorry to say..
[04:12] <armenb> i'm having a stupid problem with ubuntu.
[04:12] <xtknight> armenb: elaborate ;)
[04:12] <Ironman273> cafuego: But Java is installed :-/
[04:12] <AndrewB> !welcome | armenb
[04:12] <ubotu> armenb: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[04:12] <xtknight> n3rrd: memory errors on the other pc, or disk drive issues
[04:12] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Okay, try this
[04:12] <cafuego_> Ironman273: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:12] <xtknight> n3rrd: i recommend using the memtest on ubuntu cd
[04:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak
[04:13] <n3rrd> xtknight:  I ran it for a bit, without any errors.  Knoppix boots and runs fine, and Slack doesn't seem to have any issues.
[04:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/johnsmb.conf -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:13] <Ironman273> cafuego: OK.  It immediately went back to the command line.  BTW what dies sudo stand for?
[04:13] <wisea> hey guys, i'm having a problem accessing some files inside music programs... i mounted my ntfs hdd and i can see the files in terminal... but not in any of my media programs (xmms or rhythembox)
[04:13] <gradin> i've got a problem...
[04:13] <armenb> sure. modules specified in /etc/modules are not loaded upon bootup.
[04:13] <Ironman273> *dies=does
[04:13] <armenb> can you suggest a way i can debug the situation?
[04:13] <n3rrd> xtknight: WinXP also installed without problems.
[04:13] <xtknight> n3rrd: it could be anything from the disc media, to the disk drive's tolerance of disk-read errors, to your motherboard's controller to an internal component like memory or the cpu
[04:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[04:13] <AndrewB> wisea: seems like a permissions error.
[04:14] <herpez> need help config beryl on radeon x700, anyone?
[04:14] <pablo_> how can i do for configure my sound card with 2 outs?
[04:14] <cafuego_> Ironman273: sudo executes commands as root user
[04:14] <gradin> my backup server says unable to access dpkg status area: read-only filesystem when i try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:14] <n3rrd> xtknight:  Yeah... frusturating.  I'll try another burner, I suppose.
[04:14] <wisea> AndrewB: i set fstab to user
[04:14] <armenb> i'm running ubuntu dapper.
[04:14] <gradin> what do i do to fix it?
[04:14] <xtknight> armenb: i believe you need to put them in the 'modules' under initramfs.  i dont think /etc/modules is used by ubutnu
[04:14] <Ironman273> cafuego: But does it stand for something?
[04:14] <wisea> do i have to change anything else?
[04:14] <xtknight> n3rrd: burn at 1x
[04:14] <cafuego_> Ironman273:  Super User DO
[04:14] <AndrewB> wisea: ok not sure..
[04:14] <Ironman273> cafuego: DO as in to do or doing something?
[04:14] <n3rrd> xtknight: Alright, I'll try burning slower.  I'm also redownloading the ISO from another source, just incase.
[04:14] <wisea> AndrewB: /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw 0       0
[04:14] <prem> could anyone help??how to get back volume manager??
[04:14] <armenb> xtknight - i don't think i'm using initrd...
[04:14] <mptech> what the equivalent of debian unstable in ubuntu?
[04:15] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ok, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin'
[04:15] <arrenlex> geeksauce: If this works, you can try making the server's name longer, but I couldn't remember how many characters the name was limited to so I went with the safe thing and made < 8.
[04:15] <mptech> *what's
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: sorry, actually i think /etc/modules IS used by ubuntu.
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: i was thinking of modules.conf which lists modules and parameters
[04:15] <Ironman273> cafuego: Java installed OK, even with the errors it gave me
[04:15] <cafuego_> Ironman273: If that spits out errors, can you put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[04:15] <armenb> xtknight - well if it is, for some reason, ubuntu isn't parsing it correctly/at all.
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: youre not using initrd?
[04:15] <pablo_> how can i do for configure my sound card with two outs?
[04:15] <cafuego_> that's peculiar
[04:15] <xtknight> n3rrd: um do an md5 check?
[04:15] <armenb> er, not afaik...how do i check if i am again?
[04:15] <gradin> mptech: i think your refering to the unstable respoistorys... try /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:15] <Ironman273> cafuego: even though it's installed already?
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: pastebin it
[04:15] <pablo_> 'cause i have four speakers
[04:15] <nweaver916> anyone here who can help with torrent problems? #Azureus-support is dead :(
[04:16] <armenb> it's been awhile since i've done linux sysadmin-type stuff, quite obviously...
[04:16] <armenb> pastebin what?
[04:16] <mptech> gradin, I am referring to installing from unstable repositories
[04:16] <xtknight> !pastebin | armenb
[04:16] <ubotu> armenb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <xtknight> armenb: your /etc/modules
[04:16] <cafuego_> Ironman273: No, not if it's already installed. It's just weird it says it has broken packages.
[04:16] <cafuego_> coffee-mug: go fill yourself, then come back.
[04:16] <gradin> mptech: yep then you want to remove the # infront of the repositorys marked unsable in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <chipbuddy> exit
[04:17] <prem> could anyone help??how to get back volume manager??
[04:17] <Ironman273> cafuego: Well I'm about to run Azureus, so that'll tell me if the runtimes are installed but the browser plugin is definitely working
[04:17] <xtknight> prem: back to your gnome panel?
[04:17] <gradin> mptech: then do a sudo apt-get update
[04:17] <armenb> xtknight - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7302/
[04:17] <cafuego_> Ironman273: the plugin depends on the runtime, so it should be
[04:17] <mptech> gradin, I would like to know if it's possible to do it before the install
[04:17] <xtknight> prem: first, do you have any alsa devices?  'sudo asoundconf list' in the console, pastebin it please
[04:17] <geeksauce> arrenlex, now the share doesn't even show up on other machines :(
[04:17] <prem> xtknight,ye
[04:17] <arrenlex> geeksauce: That's even the opposite of helpful! :(
[04:17] <gradin> mptech: you mean from a networked install?
[04:17] <xtknight> armenb: how are you deducing that those modules have not been laoded?
[04:17] <armenb> the most important thing that is not being loaded is tulip, which drives my network card :-P
[04:18] <roho> !beryl
[04:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:18] <armenb> xtknight - lsmod|grep <foo>
[04:18] <xtknight> prem: put 'gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable' in your session for Startup apps
[04:18] <Quintoxis> is there a way when installing ubuntu to rather than have a GUI have a text based install that shows you whats happening? it keeps jamming for me when installing and i would like to find out when & why
[04:18] <gradin> my backup server says unable to access dpkg status area: read-only filesystem when i try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:18] <gradin> what do i need to do to fix it?
[04:18] <xtknight> armenb: interesting...... what happens if you type 'sudo modprobe tulip'  and errors printed to dmesg?
[04:18] <gradin> i was just trying to install kde
[04:18] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And what happens if you type \\JOHNDSKP\ in Windows Explorer?
[04:19] <JoseStefan> My grub menu doesn't show the "grub version" line at the top, is that normal? i think i messed it up
[04:19] <xtknight> gradin: i dont know.  for some reason you root file system is read only.  did you use the sysrq key or sometihng?  i'm not sure how that would happen otherwise
[04:19] <armenb> xtknight - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7303/
[04:19] <mar2686> hi
[04:19] <Ironman273> cafuego: everything is working fine.  I've read that Brasero is a good burning software but it's not in the software packages.  Do I install that from their website?
[04:19] <gradin> xtknight: not to my knowledge
[04:19] <geeksauce> arrenlex, the folder i had shared is no longer shared (when i right-click and click share folder it is set to "do not share")
[04:19] <prem> xtKnight:http://paste.biz/paste-711.html
[04:20] <xtknight> armenb: i dont see anything odd
[04:20] <prem> xtKnight: http://paste.biz/paste-711.html
[04:20] <armenb> the module loads fine. it just looks like its not getting loaded.
[04:20] <gradin> xtknight: how can i fix it?
[04:20] <xtknight> armenb: is tulip blacklisted anywhere?
[04:20] <armenb> yeah, exactly, that's my stupid problem :-P
[04:20] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ?? where is this?
[04:20] <cafuego_> Ironman273: You don't really need any burning software for Ubuntu, just insert a CD, drag stuff to the icon and click 'burn' :-)
[04:20] <armenb> "blacklisted"?
[04:20] <armenb> you can blacklist modules?
[04:20] <geeksauce> nautilus
[04:20] <xtknight> prem: so did you try gnome-volumne-manager in startup (see above) and restart gnome?
[04:20] <lemoniceblock> Hi all, I'm trying to compile ndiswrapper and when I am following the community docs
[04:20] <wisea> hey anybody that can help me... I just did a fresh install of xubuntu 6.10... its great, exept for that i cant access any of my media on my ntfs hdd
[04:20] <xtknight> armenb: yes, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[04:21] <wisea> i can access files with the terminal, but not within applications
[04:21] <Ironman273> cafuego: Thanks, that helps!  Off to search for more software then...
[04:21] <xtknight> wisea: mount the partition with a umask of 022 in fstab
[04:21] <cafuego_> Ironman273: :-)
[04:21] <lemoniceblock> When I type sudo make uinstall, it says that it cannot remove something
[04:21] <prem> ok
[04:21] <lemoniceblock> I've repeated that step a few times now, and it still has that error, is this normal?
[04:21] <xtknight> wisea: umask means user mask.  it is an octal number, 777-nnn=your umask.  nnn is traditional permissions style (755 in this case)
[04:21] <armenb> xtknight - according to those files, no. and something else there claims to be blacklisted and "replaced by tulip"
[04:21] <geeksauce> arrenlex, in nautilus
[04:22] <xtknight> armenb: hm which module would that be?
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Ah...
[04:22] <wisea> xtknight: okay, where do i add that in fstab?  heres my entry right now...  /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw 0       0
[04:22] <xtknight> gradin: um reboot?
[04:22] <bird603568> when i do a mount it says "mount: not a directory"
[04:22] <armenb> xtknight - either way, is there an easy way to debug this situation?
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce, okay, try this version:
[04:22] <xtknight> gradin: first check 'df -h' pastebin that please
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/johnsmb.conf -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:22] <gradin> xtknight: well thats intresting just rebooted and it said my root filesystem failed a fsck and that i need to run it manually
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[04:22] <bird603568> and im trying to mount it to /mnt/cdrom and its a dir because i made it
[04:22] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to network boot an install? I've got a 1U server without a CD drive.
[04:22] <xtknight> gradin: the error may be irrecoverable if you reboot now.  maybe youre out of disk space
[04:22] <armenb> xtknight - the module that was blacklisted is de4x5
[04:22] <armenb> i have no idea what its for.
[04:22] <xtknight> wisea:  /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw,umask=0022 0       0
[04:23] <wisea> thanks xtknight  :)
[04:23] <vox754> lemoniceblock, sorry that my guide wasn't good enough. Try "locate ndiswrapper" and removing every file you find with that name.
[04:23] <xtknight> gradin: well let it go fsck
[04:23] <prem> xtknight:restarted
[04:23] <lemoniceblock> vox754: hehe, don't say that~ at least it's something for me to work with
[04:23] <xtknight> armenb: umm sorry i really dont know.  why isn't ubuntu loading tulip automatically anyway?
[04:23] <xtknight> prem: ok do you see volume manager in gnome panel now?
[04:24] <lemoniceblock> vox754: at that stage, should I be trying to remove things though?
[04:24] <prem> xtknight: no
[04:24] <armenb> xtknight - i have no idea! i don't even know how to debug this situation.
[04:24] <wisea> xtknight: thanks, it works now
[04:24] <armenb> it would be really swell if i could get a bootlog somewhere
[04:24] <xtknight> prem: right click empty spot on top of gnome panel, goto add to panel, and select volume control
[04:24] <nandovieira> hi... I'm trying to install Ubuntu. But when I run install, a message saying something about a fat32 error stops the installation... Any command I can run on windows to fix this errors?
[04:24] <xtknight> armenb: dmesg is essentially a bootlog (kernel log actually)
[04:24] <AndrewB> nandovieira: try a defrag on the partition.
[04:24] <xtknight> armenb: i really don't know how to fix it nor how to debug it in this case
[04:24] <Ironman273> To get into themeing, you have to find themes for Gnome, not Ubuntu, correct?
[04:25] <armenb> yeah, kernel log is useless for stuff like this though.
[04:25] <xtknight> Ironman273: not sure what you mean
[04:25] <AndrewB> Ironman273: yes.
[04:25] <xtknight> Ironhand: what is an Ubuntu theme?
[04:25] <bird603568> anyone?
[04:25] <nandovieira> AndrewB: Ok... I'll try it!
[04:25] <xtknight> Ironman273: ^
[04:25] <geeksauce> arrenlex, still not showing up, still not showing as a shared folder
[04:25] <armenb> its the rc scripts (or whatever modern distros call them these days) that actually do module loading
[04:25] <vox754> lemoniceblock, yep. I think I tried that before and it worked. You know, with the kernel update my wireless stopped working. I recompiled and I'm happy as a penguin again.
[04:25] <xtknight> armenb: right, i dont know.  maybe pipe those to output or something
[04:25] <prem> xtknight: thankks mann tht was simple
[04:25] <armenb> how do i do that? :-P
[04:25] <xtknight> armenb: or put sudo modprobe tulip in one of them
[04:25] <Ironman273> xtknight: Exactly, that's what I figured.  The themes are for Gnome not Ubuntu.  I'm still learning my way around, just installed last night
[04:25] <armenb> gar. stupid linux :P
[04:25] <xtknight> armenb: heh ;)
[04:26] <lemoniceblock> vox754: so after I use 'locate ndiswrapper' I should delete everything that shows up?
[04:26] <xtknight> Ironman273: well there are no themes for 'ubuntu'.. you're either finding gtk themes, or metacity, or gnome display manager themes, or kernel usplash themes
[04:26] <xtknight> Ironman273: they are all distro-independent
[04:26] <bird603568> SLACKWARE
[04:26] <bird603568> you guys suck cock
[04:26] <armenb> btw in ubuntu
[04:26] <bird603568> ps im drunk
[04:26] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Could you pastebin "sudo cat /var/log/samba/samba.log | tail -n 50" please?
[04:27] <arrenlex> !ops
[04:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:27] <xtknight> bird603568: i noticed.  do yourself a favor
[04:27] <armenb> how do i prevent it from doing a graphical boot?
[04:27] <Ironman273> xtknight: right.  Thanks for confusing the heck out of me now :-P  So to change the way Ubuntu looks, what should I search for?
[04:27] <xtknight> armenb: hmm, remove usplash?  this may be helpful:
[04:27] <AndrewB> bird603568: that is not language for a GNU/Linux help channel. Take yourself somewhere else.
[04:27] <xtknight> !usplash | armenb
[04:27] <armenb> maybe i can see something interesting as it whizzes uselessly past my screen...
[04:27] <ubotu> armenb: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:27] <xtknight> Ironman273: no problem, im' known for doing that :D
[04:27] <xtknight> Ironman273: umm well what do you want to change?  what aspect of your desktop?
[04:27] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i checked the config file you told me to use... it references dhcp.conf  ...i'm not sure what this file is, bit i know i have DHCP disabled on my router. all IP's are manually assigned.
[04:27] <vox754> lemoniceblock, I think what has the name "ndiswrapper" on it. Those modules .ko or .so, and config files under "/etc". You can't break your system, don't worry too much.
[04:27] <`Matir> I'm having trouble with a USB hard drive enclosure... it gives me all sorts of errors, shown here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7304/
[04:28] <armenb> by the way, is "dapper" considered old these days?
[04:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Hmmmmm.
[04:28] <wisea> dag... ubuntu doesn't come with mp3 support?
[04:28] <wisea> weird
[04:28] <AndrewB> wisea: legal reasons.
[04:28] <Ironman273> xtknight: Well, in Windows terms something like a Windowblinds theme.  Changes the appearance of, well, the windows and such.
[04:28] <armenb> is fiesty the distro after dapper, and is it reasonably stable?
[04:28] <xtknight> `Matir: looks like hard disk problems.  try disabling dma on it to debug?
[04:28] <AndrewB> armenb: it is stil in beta.. try at own risk.
[04:28] <lemoniceblock> vox754: alright, thanx ^^
[04:28] <geeksauce> arrenlex, "cat: /var/log/samba/samba.log: No such file or directory"
[04:28] <eternalswd> no, fiesty is not stable yet
[04:28] <gradin> xtknight: buffer i/o error on device dm-0 logical block 20 blocks and counting
[04:28] <wisea> AndrewB: where should i get the codec?
[04:28] <prem> xtknight: nautilus is crashing frequently..i have to always do a start in recovery mode..any ideas??
[04:28] <wisea> do they have it in add/remove?
[04:28] <AndrewB> wisea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:28] <eternalswd> wisea, it depends on what player you are using
[04:29] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I give up. Restore your samba from /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak and good luck getting it to work. = / Sorry.
[04:29] <xtknight> Ironman273: metacity (for window borders), and gnome (or gtk) themes for buttons and widgets.  put them in /usr/share to make them user-independent.  user themes are stored in ~/.themes/
[04:29] <KG4KBU> hi all
[04:29] <KG4KBU> anyone in here
[04:29] <`Matir> xtknight, it's USB so hdparm can't turn off DMA
[04:29] <xtknight> prem: hm not relaly.  mine used to do that a lot the only way i solved it was to reinstall :(
[04:29] <geeksauce> arrenlex, what is the dhcp.conf file for?
[04:29] <AndrewB> KG4KBU: yeah 927 are in here ;)
[04:29] <xtknight> `Matir: hmm.  youre right.  usb prolly doesn't even have dma righT?
[04:29] <Ironman273> xtknight: Thx.  Now I get it (I think)
[04:29] <xtknight> gradin: well good luck
[04:29] <KG4KBU> kewl
[04:29] <KG4KBU> what is this room all about
[04:29] <KG4KBU> ??
[04:30] <xtknight> `Matir: try a fsck on the partition?
[04:30] <xtknight> !welcome | KG4KBU
[04:30] <ubotu> KG4KBU: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[04:30] <gradin> xtknight: does that mean my drive is crashing?
[04:30] <`Matir> xtknight, it can't even read the partition table
[04:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Dunno. I use dhcp myself, but that file doesn't exist on my system. It's just one of those lines that the magical swat put in it.
[04:30] <`Matir> KG4KBU, ham?
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> kg4kbu
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> u ham ?
[04:30] <xtknight> gradin: no.  it just means the filesystem table may be corrupted, not necessarily anything more
[04:30] <KG4KBU> im looking for a chat for singles or something
[04:30] <KG4KBU> yeah
[04:30] <KG4KBU> ham
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> join #HAMRADIO
[04:30] <KG4KBU> a young ham
[04:30] <xtknight> `Matir: do you want anything on the usb disk?
[04:30] <KG4KBU> hehe
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> OK BBL
[04:30] <gradin> xtknight: right then so reinstall?
[04:30] <Turgon> Is there a way to change Ubuntu's sensibility to the scrolling of the mouse's wheel? Thanks.
[04:30] <xtknight> `Matir: i mean, would you like to just wipe it all?
[04:31] <xtknight> gradin: naw let fsck go
[04:31] <AndrewB> Turgon: yeah. Preferneces -> Mouse.
[04:31] <`Matir> xtknight, I already tried, fdisk throws errors
[04:31] <KG4KBU> but does anyone have a good room to find a woman
[04:31] <geeksauce> arrenlex, oh ok.  should it be set to "read-only=yes"?
[04:31] <KG4KBU> like a singles room
[04:31] <xtknight> KG4KBU: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:31] <AndrewB> KG4KBU: freenode is not here for that purpose please read http://freenode.net/index.shtml
[04:31] <eternalswd> probably not on freenode :p
[04:31] <shatrat> KG4KBU, I think all linux channels are inherently singles rooms
[04:32] <arrenlex> geeksauce: If you don't want it written to, yeah.
[04:32] <KG4KBU> alright
[04:32] <xtknight> `Matir: hmm.  well what about wiping the mbr manually?
[04:32] <arrenlex> shatrat: Hey! I resemble that remark! >=|
[04:32] <KG4KBU> dalnet or something
[04:32] <KG4KBU> i dunno
[04:32] <KG4KBU> im new to irc
[04:32] <Turgon> AndrewB : thanks but I don't have that option (I use Edgy)
[04:32] <tehxed> anyone know why themes won't load when i click on them in Emerald theme manager?!?
[04:32] <xtknight> `Matir: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/blkdevice count=1 bs=512
[04:32] <AndrewB> Turgon: should have it somewhere still..
[04:32] <xtknight> `Matir: only do that on your usb disk! :0
[04:33] <xtknight> tehxed: #beryl
[04:33] <tehxed> thanks
[04:33] <`Matir> xtknight, yeah
[04:33] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i ask because you have writeable set to no and read-only set to no as well
[04:33] <Hatty_> does anyone know why i wouldnt be able to execute a file (it says its not found) even though its in the current directory. I can still run cat and file and stuff on it, but it won't execute (yes it is +x)
[04:33] <armenb> hmm
[04:33] <armenb> is udev used for network interfaces too?
[04:34] <burepe_> anyone get flash working in firefox? I installed it in flock and now it won't start so I am a little scared to mess up firefox
[04:34] <omeil> umm so linux can't write in ntfs?
[04:34] <xtknight> Hatty: file system 'user' parameter?  but there's probably something else
[04:34] <AndrewB> Hatty: sh ./script.sh?
[04:34] <burepe_> yeah
[04:34] <xtknight> omeil: writing support is experimental or limitd
[04:34] <AndrewB> omeil: it is dodgy
[04:34] <Hatty> AndrewB: Its an elf binary, from asm i wrote
[04:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Oh, it probably doesn't like that. But the version before didn't have a writable parameter at all.
[04:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Hold on...
[04:34] <AndrewB> !ntfs | omeil
[04:34] <ubotu> omeil: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:34] <xtknight> omeil:  but ntfs writing (stable but limited) is in kernel.  full and experimental support is available via ntfs-3g
[04:34] <omeil> oh ok
[04:35] <AndrewB> Hatty: just   ./script
[04:35] <xtknight> Hatty: type file <file-you-want-to-execute>
[04:35] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Aha. What happens if you run the testparm command with that file?
[04:35] <omeil> its just that i only got a 5gb parition for Ubuntu and not much can be done with that limited amount of space.
[04:35] <xtknight> burepe_: yes i have it working in firefox
[04:35] <Hatty> xtknight: mycat: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[04:35] <burepe_> how did you install it?
[04:35] <xtknight> Hatty: type "./mycat" at the terminal to execute it
[04:36] <Hatty> xtknight: bash: ./mycat: No such file or directory
[04:36] <Hatty> xtknight: its there, but it wont execute
[04:36] <xtknight> Hatty: `sudo chmod 777 mycat` to avoid silly things i guess
[04:36] <xtknight> Hatty: then try it
[04:36] <arrenlex> Hatty: chmod +x mycat
[04:36] <Hatty> xtknight: its +x
[04:36] <xtknight> he said +x didnt work either
[04:36] <omeil> can someone help me i am a noob source installer :) i want to install wine
[04:36] <xtknight> Hatty: chmod a+x ?
[04:36] <AndrewB> !wine | omeil
[04:36] <ubotu> omeil: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:36] <master5o1> i want to talk to a bot!
[04:36] <arrenlex> !hi | master5o1
[04:37] <ubotu> master5o1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:37] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i don't know anything about that command
[04:37] <Hatty> xtknight: just did 777, still wont
[04:37] <burepe_> !flash
[04:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:37] <xtknight> Hatty: type 'mount | grep /root/partition' and report the parameters used to mount the partition you're currently on
[04:37] <lemoniceblock> hmmn that's not working >.<""
[04:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: It's a samba command to test the config file. Run it as "testparm <file>" for a specific file or just testparm for /etc/samba/smb.conf.
[04:37] <AndrewB> Hatty: output of ls -l ./mycat
[04:38] <Ironman273> xtknight: I got the themes and I got the icons.  What do I do with an "engine"?
[04:38] <Hatty> AndrewB: -rwxrwxrwx 1 hatty hatty 2411 2007-02-23 18:06 ./mycat
[04:38] <omeil> !wine
[04:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:38] <xtknight> Ironman273: engines must be installed as they are libraries
[04:38] <Hatty> xtknight: /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:38] <Ironman273> xtknight: the whole cli thing, huh?
[04:39] <omeil> should i install wine using the source or should i download the package?
[04:39] <xtknight> Ironman273: usually you have to compile the engine and make install will put it in the proper location (if you configure with prefix=/usr). otherwise some sites have ubuntu pkgs you just install to get the engine working
[04:39] <armenb> xtknight - ooh. im getting somewhere.
[04:39] <xtknight> Hatty: fsck the partition
[04:39] <omeil> cause i already have the tared source . but im not sure how to install it that way
[04:39] <xtknight> armenb: eh?
[04:40] <armenb> i have my root on /dev/md0
[04:40] <Ironman273> xtknight: OK, thx.  That looks like it'll be for another time
[04:40] <geeksauce> arrenlex, wow all kinds of errors... i'll pastebin
[04:40] <armenb> that may be causing a problem
[04:40] <xtknight> armenb: raid/lvm right?
[04:40] <Hatty> xtknight: should i reboot and go into a livecd to do that or is it safe?
[04:40] <armenb> actually, no lvm, just raid
[04:40] <xtknight> Hatty: hm yeah reboot into a livecd.
[04:40] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Really? It must be because I don't use ubuntu, so the versions of samba are different.
[04:40] <Hatty> k
[04:40] <xtknight> Hatty: hey, see if it'll execute from the livecd maybe
[04:40] <armenb> i'm getting modprobe errors in the bootup screen when i turn off splash
[04:40] <Hatty> xtknight: alright
[04:41] <xtknight> Hatty: what happens if you do sudo ./mycat though?
[04:41] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7305/
[04:41] <Jrabbit> Hello
[04:41] <xtknight> Hatty: also, that executable looks like it's dynamically linked.  try ldd ./mycat to list libraries
[04:41] <armenb> fucking linux console.
[04:41] <xtknight> !language
[04:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:41] <Jrabbit> Nautilus is erroring out.
[04:41] <Hatty> xtknight:sudo: unable to execute ./mycat: No such file or directory
[04:41] <armenb> sorry,
[04:41] <xtknight> just swear in your status window ; )
[04:41] <xtknight> Hatty: try ldd..
[04:41] <Hatty> xtknight: its linked to libc, i linked it
[04:42] <Hatty> xtknight: /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: ./mycat: No such file or directory
[04:42] <xtknight> Hatty: yeah go fsck it, it's messed
[04:42] <armenb> ok i essentially know what my problem is
[04:42] <Hatty> k
[04:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: LOL XD
[04:42] <armenb> it's that my files are on a raid device
[04:42] <omeil> umm i have a problem. when i try to install wine from the add/remove it tells me Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)????
[04:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Well that would explain everything!
[04:42] <armenb> and the raid drives aren't mounted until later.
[04:42] <Jrabbit> Trying to do a dpkg fix, upgrade was interupted by XGL kill keystroke
[04:42] <armenb> which is silly of ubuntu.
[04:43] <xtknight> armenb: hmm but what would that have to do with tulip?
[04:43] <armenb> it's not tulip in particular
[04:43] <xtknight> omeil: uhh do you have a 64bit ubuntu?
[04:43] <geeksauce> arrenlex, you figure it out?
[04:43] <armenb> ubuntu isn't loading *ANY* of the modules in my /etc/modules
[04:43] <HowDoIResetTheGu> brb
[04:43] <omeil> no i don't
[04:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: xDDD See something wrong here? params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: <title>KDE Simple File Server</title>
[04:43] <armenb> and i think its not doing that because it can't find the modules
[04:43] <xtknight> omeil: what happens if you type 'sudo apt-get install wine' from the terminal?
[04:43] <armenb> because they haven't been mounted yet.
[04:43] <arrenlex> params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: <NOFRAMES>
[04:43] <omeil> hmm haven't tried
[04:43] <xtknight> html is in your samba
[04:43] <omeil> one second
[04:43] <xtknight> lol
[04:44] <xtknight> armenb: ahhh
[04:44] <xtknight> armenb: i dont think they'd be that stupid though...hmmmmm
[04:44] <armenb> does anyone here know the name of the function that reads /etc/modules and tries to line-by-line modprobe the modules?
[04:44] <xtknight> it's probably an rc script
[04:44] <omeil> umm i have a problem. when i try to install wine from the add/remove it tells me Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)????
[04:44] <armenb> because if i can just stuff those commands in my rc.local that will probably work for me.
[04:44] <omeil> oops sorry lol
[04:44] <betatux> armenb, depmod -a ?
[04:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/369917 -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:44] <omeil> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:44] <omeil> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:44] <omeil> is only available from another source
[04:44] <omeil> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[04:45] <xtknight> omeil: type 'uname -a'
[04:45] <Jrabbit>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[04:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: then run testparm again
[04:45] <omeil> Linux omeil-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:45] <geeksauce> arrenlex, how is there html in there? lol... i should have known something was funny when it opened in ff by default, lol
[04:45] <Jrabbit> How do I do this?
[04:45] <Jrabbit> Restart X?
[04:45] <AndrewB> Jrabbit: ctrl+alt+del
[04:45] <Jrabbit> Logout?
[04:45] <xtknight> omeil: do you have any extra repositories loaded?
[04:45] <TLP-CD> ...erm....how do i put a shortcut to my home folder on my desktop....
[04:45] <Jrabbit> thank you
[04:45] <omeil> yea
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: launcher ?
[04:46] <TLP-CD> i cant get anywhere in xfce without it...
[04:46] <armenb> omeil - what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: right-click etc.
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: ahh
[04:46] <omeil> I loaded the extra repositories which let me install the Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu 6.10
[04:46] <TLP-CD> 6.10
[04:46] <xtknight> omeil: hmm those may be conflicting
[04:46] <Jrabbit> AndrewB: No luck
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: latest version of xfce apparently has desktop icons, but older versions probably don't
[04:47] <xtknight> omeil: wait, extra official ubuntu repos or third party?
[04:47] <burepe_> xtknight: what method did you use to install flash. I followed the restricted formats directions but it did not work. THe other way is to do it though the browser which caused flock to not work for me before.
[04:47] <Xenguy> Xenguy: don't know if it's packaged in Ubu yet
[04:47] <armenb> what does depmod -a do?
[04:47] <Xenguy> heh
[04:47] <omeil> official
[04:47] <xtknight> burepe_: i downloaded flash off adobe's site and manually installed it
[04:47] <TLP-CD> ....meh gonna try updating then...if that doesnt solve the problem ill be back
[04:47] <omeil> err im not sure lol :D
[04:47] <armenb> the -a flag isn't described in the depmod man page
[04:47] <armenb> (betatux? :)
[04:47] <omeil> one sec lemme check
[04:47] <TLP-CD> ...btw i have no home shortcut whatsoever on gnome, kde, or xfce >.<
[04:47] <xtknight> omeil: dont know, im not sure whats up with that 'wine' thing.  maybe you have third party repos in sources.list
[04:48] <betatux> armenb, man depmod
[04:48] <omeil> xtknight
[04:48] <omeil> what if i try to install wine with source?
[04:48] <betatux> !depmod | armenb
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <xtknight> omeil: good idea if you're up for it
[04:48] <omeil> already have the ar file :)
[04:48] <omeil> tar
[04:48] <xtknight> omeil: ar? oh i was about to say, they're using some pretty old fashioned stuff
[04:48] <estupendocero> I'm having some trouble installing new fonts. I tried dragging them into the fonts:/// directory, but nothing seems to happen (sorry I'm such a n00b)
[04:49] <TLP-CD> everything is up to date
[04:49] <omeil> i just don't know what to type in the terminal
[04:49] <Jrabbit> I get an error screen after upgrading to edgy
[04:49] <xtknight> omeil: well therers a howto isnt there
[04:49] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7306/
[04:49] <TLP-CD> and i dont have any icons...
[04:49] <Jrabbit> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[04:49] <omeil> lemme see
[04:49] <xtknight> omeil: howtocompilewine or some wiki on their site, winehq maybe
[04:49] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Looks a lot better! sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[04:49] <omeil> hmm maybe there is something in the archive
[04:49] <threeonefour_> does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session
[04:49] <armenb> betatux - man my comment
[04:49] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And then test her out.
[04:49] <xtknight> omeil: you extract a .tar with "tar xf  filename".  a .tar.gz requires tar xzvf and a .tar.bz2 requires tar xjvf
[04:49] <betatux> armenb, type : depmod --help , and you'll see a '-a'
[04:50] <arrenlex> xtknight: Technically, tar will recongnise the archive type and correctly extract both gzipped and bzipped tarballs with just tar xf
[04:50] <Hatty> xtknight: Cant run from livecd.
[04:50] <xtknight> arrenlex: really? cool
[04:50] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: that's weird you don't have icons in *any* environment
[04:50] <Hatty> xtknight: /dev/hda3: clean, 203176/21757952 files, 4532531/43495987 blocks
[04:50] <arrenlex> xtknight: Yeah, try it
[04:50] <xtknight> Hatty: hm so did you fsck
[04:50] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: something is surely wrong
[04:50] <xtknight> Hatty: good grief, i have no idea.  ##linux is that way ;) -->
[04:50] <Hatty> heh
[04:50] <estupendocero> I tried to install some new fonts by dragging them into "fonts:///", but nothing seems to happen. Am I missing something?
[04:50] <Hatty> thanks for the help
[04:51] <TLP-CD> anybody have any idea how to create a shortcut to home on the desktop....its not in the right click menu
[04:51] <xtknight> i tried
[04:51] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: what have you been changing recently?  :-)
[04:51] <TLP-CD> ...
[04:51] <TLP-CD> nothing
[04:51] <xtknight> Hatty: ill spy on you in ##linux just to see what the problem was
[04:51] <Xenguy> Xenguy: version?
[04:51] <betatux> TLP-CD, create a link in the /home/username/Desktop
[04:51] <TLP-CD> 6.10
[04:51] <eternalswd> where do core dumps usually get stored?
[04:51] <armenb> ooh, i'm getting a string of modules.dep not found errors apparently.
[04:52] <armenb> not that it can't find the module
[04:52] <Jrabbit> My nautilus doesn't work
[04:52] <Jrabbit> I have no GNOME settings
[04:52] <xtknight> eternalswd: umm..like after a crash?
[04:52] <Jrabbit> HELP
[04:52] <TLP-CD> thats just the problem... i cant create a link!
[04:52] <gradin_> hrm...
[04:52] <TLP-CD> ugh!
[04:52] <xtknight> eternalswd: are you sure your linux is even setup to take core dumps?
[04:52] <impediment> test
[04:52] <xtknight> i'm not sure it's enabled by default
[04:52] <rapid> TLP-CD, man ln
[04:52] <armenb> modprobe: FATAL Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[04:53] <estupendocero> So, any advice on how to install fonts? I know it's minor, but it's bugging me
[04:53] <gradin> how to you extract a .tgz file
[04:53] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah looks like the only thing it didn't like was that dhcp.conf file, but you said that doesn't cause any problems
[04:53] <omeil> i can't even install Xchat lol says the same thing :)
[04:53] <rapid> gradin, tar zxpvf file.tgz
[04:53] <geeksauce> arrenlex, testing, hold on
[04:53] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Does it work?
[04:53] <arrenlex> gradin: tar xf file.tgz
[04:53] <Kaline_> estupendocero: Dump them in `/.donts?
[04:53] <omeil> could the nvidia drivers be making ubuntu think that im running a windows platform?
[04:53] <rapid> hahaha!
[04:53] <Kaline_> Err, .fonts.
[04:53] <heathen> hah, got it set up
[04:54] <TLP-CD> ah...thanks rapid....*blames the cat for not checking man*
[04:54] <Kaline_> Donts are another thing all-together. X)
[04:54] <estupendocero> haha
[04:54] <geeksauce> arrenlex, >_< now the workgroup isn't even showing up
[04:54] <rapid> TLP-CD, np :)
[04:54] <prem> could any 1 help me?? cd/dvd creator crashed at start up..can't access file browser
[04:54] <omeil> xtknight
[04:54] <threeonefour_> does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session
[04:54] <estupendocero> Kaline_, is that what "fonts:///" points to?
[04:54] <prem> could any 1 help me?? cd/dvd creator crashed at start up..can't access file browser
[04:54] <omeil> xtknight i extracted the wine package
[04:54] <Madpilot> Is it possible to deactivate Firefox's password manager thing entirely? I want a "Never, for any site" button on it...
[04:54] <gradin> xtknight: for whatever reason the error occured fcks was getting that i/o error on every single block of the hd...
[04:54] <omeil> no how do i make file :)
[04:55] <Kannaida> so... I'm looking to "break into" the linux world (this is my first time on IRC even).  Kinda tired of being locked into M$ developer role... is Ubuntu a good place to start?
[04:55] <xtknight> omeil: i dont really know the steps off the top of my head, there's a wiki for compiling on the wine page
[04:55] <Jrabbit> My Ubuntu box (upgrading from dapper ot edgy) errored out when loading nautilus and spat out : " The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[04:55] <Jrabbit> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now."
[04:55] <omeil> oh
[04:55] <Madpilot> Kannaida: we're biased, of course it is
[04:55] <xtknight> gradin: hhmmm
[04:55] <xtknight> gradin: so fsck is done?  does it work>?
[04:55] <AndrewB> nn all.
[04:55] <arrenlex> geeksauce: This just gets worse and worse, doesn't it.
[04:55] <Kannaida> I know you're biased... I'm hoping for a bit of honesty and some help
[04:55] <gradin> xtknight: doesn't matter i've already blown away the partition
[04:55] <estupendocero> oooh wait, I figured it out
[04:55] <estupendocero> Kaline_, thanks!
[04:55] <prem> xtknight: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411460
[04:55] <Kannaida> I think Ubuntu is the right choice for me, just not sure if it's the right starting choice
[04:56] <l2s> hi
[04:56] <gradin> xtknight: no, it requried an answer to every single block that was failing...
[04:56] <geeksauce> arrenlex, what happened to the read-only: yes and writeable: no fields?
[04:56] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Ubuntu is a really good place for newbies to start because you can't really hurt yourself with gnome, and because the community is so helpful.
[04:56] <Kannaida> something easy to carry over to from a strictly M$ background
[04:56] <Hatty> Kannaida: Ubuntu is a good starting choice. its very simple, and easy to configure
[04:56] <gradin> so i canceled it and am nuking the partition
[04:56] <n3rrd> xtknight:  reburnt the install disc at 16x and got through the test without any checksum errors... just for the record.
[04:56] <Kannaida> awesome
[04:56] <Madpilot> Kannaida: Ubuntu is designed to be very friendly for new users, but usable for anyone, even experts
[04:56] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I went back to what works for me, since I added those extra lines when the previous version didn't work. Sure, let's add them...
[04:56] <gradin> xtknight: it was just a basic install so its not like i'm loosing anything but the time it took to install...
[04:56] <long_duck_dong> hello all
[04:56] <threeonefour_> does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session
[04:56] <Logikos^> hello, i just instaled ubunto ... i'm fairly new to linux ... now that i have it instaled i cant seem to do much of anything, i cant even see how to bring up a concel window ?
[04:56] <prem> i need a help http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411460
[04:57] <Madpilot> threeonefour_: no
[04:57] <betatux> Problem here, OpenOffice Word Processor crashes when I try to digitally sign the document. Anyone else seeing this ?
[04:57] <xtknight> prem: well that's a bug report.  none of us can hel pthere
[04:57] <Hatty> Logikos^: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[04:57] <l2s> WHen you install svn with apt-get for edgy, does apt-get install subversion install 1.4 or 1.3
[04:57] <Logikos^> Hatty: thanks
[04:57] <xtknight> prem: i dont read greek (er i mean gdb backtraces) :P.  youll prolly get mail from gnome devs
[04:57] <omeil> xtknight
[04:57] <Madpilot> !info subversion
[04:57] <xtknight> gradin: you can force it to not ask you for each block
[04:57] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[04:57] <prem> xtknight:my cd/dvd creator crashed!!
[04:57] <xtknight> gradin: ah ok
[04:57] <omeil> i did the ./configure then make depend didn't work
[04:58] <xtknight> prem: that's just the name for nautilus i think
[04:58] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/369932 -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:58] <Madpilot> l2s: looks like 1.3.x
[04:58] <threeonefour_> madpilot, are you certian that i cannot boot into a live session using the server install disk
[04:58] <arrenlex> geeksauce: testparm
[04:58] <l2s> how can you tell madpilot
[04:58] <omeil> then i tried make and it said checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[04:58] <omeil> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[04:58] <omeil> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[04:58] <omeil> checking for gcc... gcc
[04:58] <omeil> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[04:58] <omeil> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:58] <omeil> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:58] <armenb> does fiesty in ubuntu use initramfs by default?
[04:58] <armenb> because i dont think dapper does.
[04:58] <TLP-CD> ...so if i wanted to create a link to my home folder, i'd enter= ln Home LINK_NAME
[04:58] <long_duck_dong> I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?
[04:58] <arrenlex> !paste | omeil
[04:58] <ubotu> omeil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <xtknight> omeil: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:59] <arrenlex> ~bs | omeil
[04:59] <irida> omeil: Compiling from source? You'll need to install the build-essential package.
[04:59] <prem> xknight:any way out
[04:59] <armenb> xtknight - which version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:59] <betatux> TLP-CD, one could type : ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop/home.lnk
[04:59] <jake_> need help with sapphire radeon x1550
[04:59] <Kannaida> to combat the bias... I'm looking to learn to develop Java (time to learn a new language), I like to game, and I probably need interop with M$ office.  I know open office helps the last, but what about the first two?
[04:59] <skirk> why I cant delete files in my USBDISK???
[04:59] <xtknight> armenb: ubuntu 6.10
[04:59] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Java is cross-platform. No problems with that.
[05:00] <Kannaida> right, but U.S. gov't is (surprisingly to me) going OSS and so, linux seems good
[05:00] <omeil> k its downloading thx :)
[05:00] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Gaming is a huge problem. There's a couple simple games for Linux available. Wine will also run a few windows games. But for the most part you're better off dual-booting or having a gaming box.
[05:00] <skirk> why I cant delete files in my USBDISK??? It say I have no permission.....
[05:00] <Madpilot> l2s: because I asked the bot. try "/msg ubotu info subversion"
[05:00] <omeil> arrenlex or he could use Cedega
[05:00] <Kannaida> arrenlex: thanx.  well, I like to game... but I guess it's not really my top priority
[05:00] <Logikos^> after a new instal of ubunto, what is the root password ... it only had me setup a userpass ?
[05:00] <betatux> skirk, have you tried as root ?
[05:00] <kelsin> Kannaida: I run WoW, Warcraft II and Starcraft in wine 9.30 all perfectly fine :)
[05:01] <long_duck_dong> hello?????
[05:01] <threeonefour_> madpilot, are you certian that i cannot boot into a live session using the server install disk
[05:01] <omeil> But you have to pay for cedega
[05:01] <Madpilot> Logikos^: there is no root pw
[05:01] <kelsin> III* not II
[05:01] <arrenlex> omeil: That's true. But cedega costs money and is still not guaranteed to work.
[05:01] <Logikos^> then how do i become root
[05:01] <kelsin> all in blanket wine, not cedega
[05:01] <Madpilot> ubotu: sudo | Logikos^
[05:01] <ubotu> Logikos^: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <prem> xtknight:any ideas?
[05:01] <arrenlex> omeil: In essence he'd be paying for half the functionality he already has for free.
[05:01] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7309/
[05:01] <l2s> nifty
[05:01] <omeil> true
[05:01] <Ironman273> Anyone have any experience installing SynCE?
[05:01] <skirk> betatux, yes
[05:01] <omeil> cedega would be a good project if it was free :D
[05:02] <Madpilot> l2s: the bot is nifty - I often feel it's the smartest thing in this channel ;)
[05:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Huh? It didn't change from last time.
[05:02] <betatux> skirk, what does 'mount' show ?
[05:02] <Kannaida> I think what I'm really looking for is professional development.  Getting into Java, and getting into another OS.  I know Windows (of course), and I don't really have an interest in MacOS, and linux is (I think) a much better choice than Unix
[05:02] <kelsin> omeil: any opengl runs perfect for me without cedega, and since mainly I just use blizzard games, it's great
[05:02] <yurimxpxman> hey I need help really fast with my Ubuntu server. I need to know how to give my FTP access to edit /var/www
[05:02] <jake_> hello, i upgraded from on-board ati video to a sapphire x1550 and now ubunut/kubuntu won't boot after install
[05:02] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Unix? Is that that expensive thing they had in the '80s?
[05:02] <skirk> betatux, mount show "usbdisk"....
[05:02] <omeil> whats any opengl? is that a program
[05:02] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i dunno but i tested it and it works finally!
[05:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What? xD
[05:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: But... it didn't change.
[05:02] <betatux> Ironhand, I had SynCE running with a Qtek s100 with WinMobile 2003 , but now I have a Qteks200 with WinMobile 2005 and can't get it to work yet.
[05:03] <Madpilot> Kannaida: set up a dual boot, XP & Ubuntu, and go for it.
[05:03] <Kannaida> arrenlex: yep, and at my college... so much not fun to go from that to a job that says "oh, you know MFC, right?"
[05:03] <omeil> or do u mean any games that use opengl?
[05:03] <tannerld> what is the terminal command to get the title of a window/program?
[05:03] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to use ubuntu server?
[05:03] <kelsin> omeil: I meant any opengl game
[05:03] <betatux> skirk, what filesystem is the usbdisk using ?
[05:03] <kelsin> omeil: as opposed to a 3d game that uses directx
[05:03] <omeil> through ubuntu?
[05:03] <watson540> hey i need a little herlp, didnt there used to be an http ubuntu repo? i need to install some junk to get my wireless working so i want to download the debs i need beforehand and transfer them via memory stick..i used to be able to do this but i cant seem to find the http repo anymore
[05:03] <geeksauce> arrenlex, for some reason testparm isn't showing the added variables, but i looked and they are there
[05:03] <skirk> betatux, I dont know....How I can see this?
[05:04] <kamui> anyone familiar with what I would need to get my new tablet pc's screen rotation button to be recognized in edgy?  I've already written the rotate / counter rotate scripts for both the wacom and screen, I just need to map them to the button, but it doesn't seem to respond to anything
[05:04] <arrenlex> tannerld: xprop WM_NAME
[05:04] <arrenlex> tannerld: And click on it.
[05:04] <yurimxpxman> someone please help me with my ubuntu server. I need to know how to give the FTP users access /var/www
[05:04] <kelsin> omeil: yes, with wine > 9.28 I've played WoW, Warcraft III, and Starcraft perfectly just by installing and running on debian, ubuntu, and fedora
[05:04] <Kannaida> but as I said, it seems like the U.S. gov't is leaning towards linux (for some fairly obvious reasons) so I thought I could increase my security by being a bit more flexible ;)
[05:04] <arrenlex> geeksauce: *shrug* Alrighty. Well, I'm glad it actually works!
[05:04] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Enjoy xD Sorry for making you go through all that.
[05:04] <omeil> wine is being gay at the moment
[05:04] <watson540> is there a http repo anymore/.
[05:04] <omeil> seems to be conflicting with my nvidia card.
[05:04] <long_duck_dong>  I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop....... need help
[05:05] <omeil> so thats why i have to try to install with by compiling the sourcfe
[05:05] <omeil> source*
[05:05] <yurimxpxman> someone please help me.. I need to get this done very fast. I need to know how to give my FTP users access to /var/www
[05:05] <Kannaida> as far as software dev goes... is there a big difference between linux distro's if I'm looking to write fairly generic apps?
[05:05] <skirk> betatux, I dont know....How I can see this?
[05:05] <betatux> skirk, if it's a ntfs filesystem you need to read this : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[05:05] <Kannaida> differences in UI coding, etc
[05:05] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: you need chmod and chown - a good file manager might help, but command-line can do it
[05:05] <Madpilot> Kannaida: not really, a lot of the underlying stuff is similar/identical across distros.
[05:05] <skirk> ok betatux
[05:05] <skirk> thank
[05:06] <Madpilot> Kannaida: the differences for UI stuff will be Gnome vs KDE vs XFCE etc
[05:06] <arrenlex> Kannaida: No. The UI is handled by toolkit libraries: the main ones are gtk and qt, and those are available on all modern distros and even on windows.
[05:06] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: as root, chmod 755 <all directories>
[05:06] <geeksauce> arrenlex, don't apologize... i'm just glad it works.  thanks for spending all that time helping me.  nothing like spending a friday night helping a stranger, :P  i'm definitely saving that file now in case i need to reformat
[05:06] <betatux> skirk, when you type mount , there's 'type ext3' for example and (rw) for read write
[05:06] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Stop reminding me I don't have a life. :)
[05:06] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: as root, chmod 644 <all files>
[05:06] <Kannaida> Madpilot: thanx... I have so much aprehension... not that I don't think I *can* do it, but more that.. well... it gets intimidating
[05:06] <Kannaida> thanks to arrenlex too
[05:06] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: assume for now that 'ownership'/'chown' stuff is OK
[05:06] <armenb> are there other ubuntu channels i can trol for help in?
[05:06] <Madpilot> Kannaida: ya, been there, done that, got over it. Best of luck, have fun. :)
[05:07] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: do you mean <all files> literally as a command?
[05:07] <TLP-CD> ok, i sorted out the short cut problem
[05:07] <Kannaida> Madpilot: haha, thanx
[05:07] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: no
[05:07] <kamui> whats the command to test key inputs that the xorg server is recieving?  Im ultimately trying to map my tablet pc's rotation button to a rotate script I wrote
[05:07] <armenb> this stuff is frustrating me.
[05:07] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hey man, neither do i.  i'm in my room tinkering with linux too :P
[05:07] <Ironman273> Can someone help me install some software that needs to be compiled?
[05:07] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Where you get into problems is the different libraries. Often the versions of the libraries are different between distros and they change with time since there's nothing like in windows where they have to keep exact compatibilty or corporate vendors will yell at them.
[05:07] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: you substitute proper names
[05:07] <l2s> Is 6.10 going to stop being supported?
[05:07] <Kannaida> I'm thinking about an OS change, and I don't recall having been this nervous the first time I turned on a computer... hehe
[05:07] <SanityInAnarchy> iptables... why does DNAT no longer work?
[05:07] <long_duck_dong>  I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?
[05:07] <long_duck_dong>  I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?
[05:07] <long_duck_dong>  I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?
[05:07] <long_duck_dong>  I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?
[05:07] <arrenlex> !ops
[05:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:07] <Madpilot> l2s: not for a long while yet
[05:07] <xtknight> long_duck_dong: 'cause you're spamming
[05:07] <omeil> umm does ubuntu have any end taking softare similair to windows endtask?
[05:07] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: if you need sub-directories done too, use the '-R' argument to either chmod or chown
[05:07] <long_duck_dong> i am not spamming
[05:07] <omeil> tasking
[05:07] <arrenlex> Kannaida: That's why a lot of software on Linux is either distributed from source or downloaded directly from the distro repositories.
[05:08] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: '-R' stands for 'recursive'
[05:08] <TLP-CD> stop spamming....if you worry about "support", use 6.06 LTS
[05:08] <SanityInAnarchy> omeil:  killall
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> long_duck_dong: Pasting the same line four times is definitely spamming.
[05:08] <SanityInAnarchy> omeil:  also xkill and others
[05:08] <watson540> Is there no http ubuntu repo anymore?? I used to be able to download the debs i needed then transfer them to a sandbox via memory stick
[05:08] <gnomefreak> !repeat | long_duck_dong
[05:08] <ubotu> long_duck_dong: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:08] <Madpilot> omeil: for RAM management & such? Let Ubuntu deal with your RAM, Linux is far better at RAM management than XP
[05:08] <omeil> that dosen't make any sence to me :)
[05:08] <Kannaida> arrenlex: so I would be better off knowing which distro(s) I could be developing for?
[05:08] <long_duck_dong> I had typed in my question 3 0r 4 times with no response
[05:08] <Kaline_> Not sure, how long do they support non-LTS releases?
[05:08] <arrenlex> Kannaida: So you would be better off writing open source. :)
[05:08] <Ironman273> Can someone help with an installation?
[05:08] <nalioth> !patience | long_duck_dong
[05:08] <ubotu> long_duck_dong: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:08] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: now how do I access those?
[05:08] <Madpilot> Kaline_: 18 months
[05:08] <Kannaida> hahaha
[05:08] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: I'm assuming this is a permissions issue BTW
[05:09] <arrenlex> Kannaida: What are you laughing at?
[05:09] <TLP-CD> ...anybody have any luck in trying to get their sd card slot to work?
[05:09] <armenb> great.
[05:09] <omeil> long duck dong instead of saying you have a problem. why not just state your problem?
[05:09] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: yes, it is. What user do I login to the FTP as to access /var/www?
[05:09] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: access? what do you mean?  Get a terminal window up
[05:09] <yurimxpxman> ok
[05:09] <armenb> i just overwrote my initrd image.
[05:09] <Kannaida> arrenlex: how far this all is from what I *thought* I knew...
[05:09] <geeksauce> arrenlex, before i forget, what file do i need to add any mount instructions to in order to mount a volume on startup?
[05:09] <Xenguy> Turgon: use 'sudo' before all those commands
[05:09] <Ironman273> What is "svn checkout"?
[05:09] <long_duck_dong> i will state the problem, brb
[05:09] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: use 'sudo' before all those commands
[05:09] <armenb> ironman - it's what you do to check code out of a subversion repository
[05:09] <Kannaida> you'd think with 6 years in IT I wouldn't feel so... ignorant.  Oh well, time to learn I guess
[05:09] <arrenlex> geeksauce: A samba volume?
[05:10] <TLP-CD> ...again, has anybody had any luck getting their sd card slot to work?
[05:10] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: that will give you 'root' privileges
[05:10] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Euh... I don't do that, so I can't help you there, sorry. Google for "fstab samba" or ask around.
[05:10] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I'm logged in as root (text mode) and I'm trying to log into my server from a Windows computer and access /var/www to edit my website, but vsftpd won't let me login as root
[05:10] <betatux> kamui you could make a program that catches keystrokes and mouse events using the Xlib library
[05:10] <Ironman273> armenb: and how would I use that?
[05:10] <Madpilot> Kannaida: six years in Windows IT, though, right? Not the same animal, except for the basic hardware.
[05:10] <Kaline_> Anyone 'ere using irssi?
[05:10] <armenb> ironman - what are you trying to do?
[05:11] <Ironman273> armenb: Build SynCE
[05:11] <geeksauce> arrenlex, nah it's unrelated.  it's ntfs.  i have to mount it every time with "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/servitup -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222"
[05:11] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Oh! I can do that.
[05:11] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: If you want to modify remote configurations, then you need to 'ssh' into the remote box I think
[05:11] <omeil> I guess it its quite hard for wine to run alot of programs considering linux dosen't have every dll library that windows uses for external programs.
[05:11] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Here's one line of mine from /etc/fstab. It should help you.
[05:11] <tannerld> is it possible to minimize a window when it becomes active using shell?
[05:11] <arrenlex> /dev/sda10      /win/E          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       0
[05:11] <TLP-CD> crossover office anyone?
[05:11] <Kannaida> Madpilot: I know, but 6 years with Windows and I'm thinking "I can do that" and then I think to try something new... it's tough getting used to being at the bottom again (not that I was on the top, but I wasn't on the bottom either)
[05:11] <kamui> betatux: I just used acpi_listen AND xev, and when I press the tablet pc's rotation button, NO events.  so I don't think ill ever get em working
[05:11] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: do you have an ssh server running on the remote box?
[05:11] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I'm at the server terminal right now
[05:12] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: if so, then get a 'putty' ssh client on the local box and use that to connect via ssh to the remote box
[05:12] <omeil> so is ubuntu the most advanced distro?
[05:12] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I don't know what you mean
[05:12] <omeil> because i was always tempted by Suse
[05:12] <arrenlex> Kannaida: It was really tough when I switched to Linux and I had no idea how to even give a file path. I had no idea how the filesystem syntax worked. I had to learn to use the command line even though I'd never even seen it before!
[05:12] <Dr_willis> omeil,  wine is impressive that it works at all.
[05:12] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: OK, I thought you were on a windows box for some reason
[05:12] <arrenlex> Kannaida: But I figured it out and I'd never go back now :)
[05:12] <Madpilot> Kannaida: Windows "power users" often have a harder time getting used to Ubuntu/Linux/etc than ppl who just want "browsing & email" to work...
[05:12] <darehanl> Hi, my laptop is refusing to boot flight 4: I/O error. Error reading boot CD.
[05:12] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I'm on a Windows laptop at the moment, but also in front of my Linux terminal
[05:12] <Dr_willis> omeil,  last review i saw of suse said suse was 'ok' but ubuntu gives it a run for its money.
[05:12] <TheLance> hey guys quick question is there a way to install ubuntu on the HD without a reformat of the harddrive?
[05:13] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I'm trying to access /var/www via FTP from the Windows laptop
[05:13] <Kannaida> arrenlex: That's actually really comforting. I know I'll still need a Windows box for some of my work, but it's really quite intimidating.
[05:13] <arrenlex> TheLance: The default installer does not reformat.
[05:13] <TheLance> ther eis a bunch of stuff in the homefolder i want backed up
[05:13] <Madpilot> darehanl: try #ubuntu+1 for Feisty
[05:13] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: I may be too tired to think straight; I'm finding communication hard right now :-)
[05:13] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Just keep trying and ask over here if you need help :) you'll get it in no time.
[05:13] <darehanl> Madpilot: Okay, thanks
[05:13] <TheLance> will it delete all my stuff in hte home folder?
[05:13] <geeksauce> arrenlex, so i just need to add the line "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/servitup -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222" to fstab?
[05:13] <TheLance> i have really important data on it
[05:13] <Kannaida> arrenlex: thanks
[05:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Nope.
[05:13] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: I'll review the thread and contribute what I can
[05:13] <TheLance> that i need ot get from
[05:13] <TheLance> i got a external HD enclosure
[05:13] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: what thread? I haven't started one yet lol
[05:14] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I guess you missed it since I didn't put your name on it
[05:14] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Here's one line of mine from /etc/fstab. It should help you.
[05:14] <TheLance> but windows won't recognize the HD
[05:14] <Kannaida> Madpilot: I don't know how "Power" of a windows user I am... but I *like* to think I'm fairly good at picking up new concepts... I guess I'm going to find out pretty soon...
[05:14] <arrenlex> geeksauce: /dev/sda10      /win/E          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       0
[05:14] <GaiaX11> !enter| TheLance
[05:14] <ubotu> TheLance: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:14] <yurimxpxman> could anyone else please help me? I'm trying to give my FTP users access to /var/www
[05:14] <geeksauce> arrenlex, oh ok.  no no "mount" command is needed?
[05:14] <xtknight> how do you see a list of packages available from a certain repository?  For example how do i check if janvitus carries wine, for example?  (via debian pkg system, besides going to jan's website)
[05:15] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Nope, fstab is the special configuration file for systems that are mounted at boot. It's not a shell script.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> geeksauce,  ya may want to read up on the differances between mounting somthing from the terminal with the 'mount' command and a entry in the fstab file. :)
[05:15] <tannerld> is it possible to minimize a window when it becomes active using shell?
[05:15] <Madpilot> xtknight: best place for wine is probably wine's own repo - try #winehq
[05:15] <TheLance> does reinstalling ubuntu delete all the data in my home folder? I dont want that to happen because i have really important DATA on it
[05:15] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: everything you say is a thread :-) Anyhow, you're on a d0ze box and trying to connect up with a linux server, or what?
[05:15] <xtknight> Madpilot: yeah  i know that, wine was really just an example
[05:15] <Dr_willis> geeksauce,  how linux mounts drives is proberly oone of the top 10 'things' to learn about :)  it pays to know it very well
[05:15] <TheLance> I tried to get an external enclosure but windows won't detect the HD so I cant back anything up on it
[05:16] <GaiaX11> TheLance: No
[05:16] <Madpilot> TheLance: is your /home a separate partition?
[05:16] <arrenlex> geeksauce: /dev/hdb1      /media/servitup          ntfs    ro,users,umask=0222           0       0
[05:16] <TheLance> no its not
[05:16] <arrenlex> geeksauce: (in case couldn't didn't translate it)
[05:16] <llama32> i broke automount. how do i fix it?
[05:16] <Ironman273> betatux: you don't see my replies?
[05:17] <Madpilot> xtknight: if you've got the full set of official Ubuntu repos enabled, you should be good to go, and not care where things come from. 3rd party repos can be trouble...
[05:17] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I'm on a Windows Vista laptop, trying to connect to my Linux server. The Linux server is sitting next to me (text mode). I have vsFTPd and LAMP working, but I need to give my FTP users full RW access to /var/www so we can edit the website remotely via FTP
[05:17] <TheLance> so reinstalling ubuntu will not delete my home folder?
[05:17] <betatux> Ironman273, no i'm not getting them , are you IDENTIFIED ? you can only send priv msg's when you're registered and identified
[05:17] <Madpilot> TheLance: that depends on your setup. it might.
[05:17] <armenb> ironman - where does it say you build from subversion?
[05:17] <xtknight> Madpilot: i do care because one repo may carry a newer version.  also when i get weird err msgs like it's not available for my arch or it's a pseudo package or something, i would like to know to be able to debug...not very often but it comes in handy
[05:17] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: so apply the 'chmod' 'chown' advice to the server, yes?
[05:17] <TheLance> what would i hav eto do to not get it to be deleted
[05:18] <Ironman273> betatux:  Hmm, guess not.  I'm new to IRC
[05:18] <Jrabbit> #BDSM-Bijou
[05:18] <kevogod> If your home folder is not aon a separate partition, there is a great chance you will lose it when you reinstall.
[05:18] <Jrabbit> whoops
[05:18] <geeksauce> arrenlex, thanks :)  just so i know the why and not just the how, what is the umask variable and what are those 0's for at the end, and do the extra spaces matter?
[05:18] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: what's the next step for you?
[05:18] <TheLance> is it possible to put the home folder in a swap partition for a while?
[05:18] <Ironman273> armenb: I'm trying to follow these instructions: http://www.synce.org/index.php/Building_SynCE_with_Windows_Mobile_2005_support_from_Subversion
[05:18] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I need to change my user's home folder to /var/www
[05:18] <pirothezero> wheres the ubuntudev irc?
[05:18] <Madpilot> xtknight: the only time you're likely to get error msgs like that is if you're stirring in 3rd party or non-ubuntu repos - using Debian repos is a classic way to break your Ubuntu, for example
[05:18] <omeil> is compiling from source dangerous?
[05:18] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: don't do that
[05:18] <arrenlex> geeksauce: The spaces don't matter, they're just tabs so the fstab is divided into columns and is easy to read.
[05:19] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: Then how can I access that folder from my FTP client?
[05:19] <TLP-CD> what version of fluxbox should i install and which way is the easiest to do it?
[05:19] <arrenlex> geeksauce: As for the umask, do you know about file permissions?
[05:19] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: that is just a bad idea(TM)
[05:19] <tannerld> is it possible to minimize a window when it becomes active using shell?
[05:19] <GaiaX11> TheLance: Why don't you make a home folder backupe then?
[05:19] <GaiaX11> TheLance: Why don't you make a home folder backup then?
[05:19] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: you directly change permissions on /var/www
[05:19] <TheLance> well the problem is
[05:19] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: with 'chmod' and 'chown'
[05:19] <TheLance> ubuntu wont even boot up for me anymore
[05:19] <GaiaX11> !enter| TheLance
[05:19] <ubotu> TheLance: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:19] <omeil> if i type sudo apt-get install xchat will that try to install xchat?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> omeil,  yes.. try it and see
[05:20] <Madpilot> omeil: yes
[05:20] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: you need to use 'sudo' (i.e. be 'root')
[05:20] <xtknight> Madpilot:  ok, i assume you don't know ;)  honestly i just want to know for the sake of knowing.
[05:20] <TheLance> the only way to fix my problem is a reinstall and I don't have a way to back it up
[05:20] <omeil> oh ok :) im kinda new to this.
[05:20] <TLP-CD> is there a difference between putting just "su" or "sudo"?
[05:20] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I did that, but I don't know how to access that folder from my FTP now
[05:20] <dr1v3r> ok guys how far ahead of debian is ubuntu?
[05:20] <shatrat> TLP-CD, su is for switch user
[05:20] <omeil> oh and does compliling software from source dangerous in anyway?
[05:20] <arrenlex> dr1v3r: In what way?
[05:20] <GaiaX11> TheLance: Why not?
[05:20] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i don't have the whole thing memorized, but i get the jist of it.  what about the extra zero's all spaced out at the end of the line?
[05:21] <shatrat> TLP-CD, sudo is to do something as super user
[05:21] <Dr_willis> TheLance,  boot live cd, manyally mount th eexternal usb drive.. copy stuff over.
[05:21] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: you don't use FTP right now...
[05:21] <TLP-CD> ah
[05:21] <dr1v3r> as in package releases, are they quicker than them at getting stable ones?
[05:21] <dr1v3r> *making them stable
[05:21] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: What do I do then? I want to access my www folder via FTP
[05:21] <TheLance> yeah but the external HD won't let me write to it in ubuntu
[05:21] <shatrat> TLP-CD, su is kind of frowned on in ubuntu, its better to use sudo -i as interactive sudo, than to log in as root
[05:21] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I ran chmod and chown
[05:21] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman:  you log into the server, get a command-line, get root, then do your changed permissions -- does that make sense?
[05:21] <arrenlex> geeksauce: look at the top line of your fstab: those zeros correspond to the <dump>  <pass> columns.
[05:21] <bean-oh> is there an easy way to reset the gnome interface to defaults without creating a new user?
[05:22] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I've done that, but I don't know how to access it from the FTP client
[05:22] <shatrat> bean-oh, rename your .gnome ffolder
[05:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: These are magical and mystical columns and I will explain to you what they do in just a moment.
[05:22] <notarrenlex> What do the <dump> and <pass> columns do?
[05:22] <GaiaX11> TheLance: make a cdrom backup
[05:22] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: that's why I thought I ought to change the home folder to /var/www
[05:22] <seravitae> how can i see usb errors? on bootup one of my device errored out
[05:22] <lordkeiden> how can I resize the partition that ubuntu is installed on. I booted with the 6.1 live cd and ran gparted. it would not allow me to shrink the second partition from the front. sda1 is my windows partition, and sda2 is for ubuntu. I need to give windows back a few gig i took from it when i did the install.
[05:22] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: thanks for telling me you actually ran chmod/chown -- that is relevant troubleshooting information :-)
[05:22] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: what's next?
[05:22] <geeksauce> notarrenlex, haha ok cool
[05:22] <TLP-CD> now that's cleared up...how to i get my sd cardslot working?
[05:22] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: I can hardly tell :p
[05:22] <TheLance> how? The LivecD in in the drive and has no burning software
[05:22] <armenb> ok. i found my problem.
[05:23] <bean-oh> shatrat, .gnome? or .gconf?
[05:23] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: so you've changed permissions?
[05:23] <long_duck_dong> I boot from the 6.10 cd, it gives me the login screen and when it tries to log in i get an error stating.. "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem"
[05:23] <armenb> my problem is that i made a 200MB / once upon a time.
[05:23] <TheLance> i cant make a copy of anything gaiax11
[05:23] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: yes. What's the terminal command to change my home folder?
[05:23] <shatrat> bean-oh, i guess it is .gconf
[05:23] <armenb> and i symlinked /lib/modules to /usr/lib/modules
[05:23] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: is yes, then you need an FTP client to test connect to the FTP server, yes?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !terminal
[05:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:23] <Kannaida> Alright... so I effectively have one box right now (this one).  If I were to... oh, I don't know... blow it away and load Ubuntu... is that a bad idea?
[05:23] <armenb> which is bad bad bad
[05:23] <bean-oh> ok, let me try. brb
[05:23] <armenb> because the modules are really not mounted when looking for them.
[05:23] <bean-oh> thanks
[05:23] <GaiaX11> TheLance: Why not?
[05:23] <TheLance> i think i might have to gettingt a second hd and backup everything that way
[05:23] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: you do *not* change the /home folder (that's directory) OK?
[05:23] <TheLance> i'm in it right now
[05:23] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: this is about /var/www
[05:23] <Kannaida> do I need a "fall back" box that I can guarantee I can get online with to get help?
[05:23] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Anyway, google can tell you what they do, I'm sure. I just know that sometimes those numbers are 1 and not 0, and that they don't change anything I can see.
[05:23] <TheLance> no burning software available
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> how do I reconfigure xorg.conf?
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> is there a tool for that?
[05:24] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: I know.. I want to change my home folder to /var/www =P
[05:24] <arrenlex> Shadow_mil: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:24] <GaiaX11> TheLance: borrow from someone.
[05:24] <Madpilot> Kannaida: burn a LiveCD before you nuke your current box, make sure it works, you'll always have a working OS that way
[05:24] <yurimxpxman> Xenguy: That's the only way I can access that dir from my FTP client
[05:24] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: that's it - enough
[05:24] <arrenlex> geeksauce: anyway, permissions. Every file on the Linux filesystem has the following set of permissions
[05:24] <Kannaida> Madpilot: sounds good to me
[05:24] <dr1v3r> so guys roughly how long after a package is released would it be stable on ubuntu?
[05:24] <TheLance> gaiax11 well thats what i need to do
[05:24] <Xenguy> yurimxpxman: seek help elsewhere
[05:24] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ?rwxrxxrxx
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> arrenlex: thats
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> thanks
[05:24] <omeil> shadow what do u need to configure?
[05:24] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ?rwxrwxrwx
[05:24] <omeil> in xorg.conf
[05:24] <tannerld> can one get window information from the shell
[05:25] <Madpilot> Kannaida: or just set up a dualboot with whatever is on the box currently
[05:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: This is three blocks of "rwx" which correspond to read, write and execute.
[05:25] <Kannaida> Madpilot: LiveCD is maybe best option for now... it's like a trial, right?
[05:25] <GaiaX11> tannerld: Which info?
[05:25] <tannerld> GaiaX11: like the title and state
[05:25] <Madpilot> Kannaida: yes, but there's an option to install right from the LiveCD, which is very cool.
[05:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: the first block of rwx is what the owner of the file can do. The second block of rwx is what the group which owns the file can do. The third block of rwx is what everyone else can do.
[05:26] <lordkeiden> how can I resize the partition that ubuntu is installed on. I booted with the 6.1 live cd and ran gparted. it would not allow me to shrink the second partition from the front. sda1 is my windows partition, and sda2 is for ubuntu. I need to give windows back a few gig i took from it when i did the install.
[05:26] <arrenlex> geeksauce: The ? at the beginning denotes special setting for the file which aren't important and you shouldn't mess with, like the sticky bit.
[05:26] <GaiaX11> tannerld: What Title and state ?
[05:26] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ah i gotcha.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> lordkeiden,  check the parted/gparted docs. that may be a limittion, and they may give some work arounds
[05:27] <GaiaX11> tannerld: be more specific.
[05:27] <Kannaida> Madpilot: cool, that may be the best way to go for now.
[05:27] <tannerld> GaiaX11: of a program; state like (active, minimized...)
[05:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: So, rw-rw-rw- means everyone can read and write to the file, but no one can execute it.
[05:27] <omeil> whats the best irc client for ubuntu
[05:27] <omeil> ?
[05:27] <long_duck_dong> I boot from the 6.10 cd, it gives me the login screen and when it tries to log in i get an error stating.. "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem"
[05:27] <xtknight> omeil: xchat
[05:27] <Kannaida> Madpilot: this way I have a chance to learn something before I have to tell my wife what to do ;)
[05:27] <omeil> dang lol
[05:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: rwxrw-r-- means that the owner can read, write and execute the file, the group can read and write, and everyone else can read.
[05:27] <geeksauce> arrenlex, so how does that relate to umask?
[05:27] <omeil> xchat is being gay like wine :)
[05:27] <Madpilot> Kannaida: sounds like a plan
[05:27] <xtknight> lol
[05:28] <Kannaida> You guys have been great.  I really appreciate the help.  Have a goodnight all
[05:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: These permission codes are represented numerically by three digits. 7=rwx, 0=---, and all combinations inbetween.
[05:28] <desi007> how do I force delete a file or folder
[05:28] <xtknight> !night
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about night - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <xtknight> aw
[05:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: i.e. 6=rw-, etc.
[05:28] <GaiaX11> desi007: rm -fr
[05:28] <omeil> xtknight is your ubuntu configured properly?
[05:28] <xtknight> omeil: sure is
[05:28] <GaiaX11> desi007: rm -fr file/folder
[05:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: When you change the permissions of the file, these are the codes you use. chmod 777 = rwxrwxrwx. chmod 700 = rwx------
[05:28] <omeil> can i see a screeny?
[05:28] <tannerld> GaiaX11: dont know eh? :P
[05:28] <omeil> :D
[05:29] <desi007> GaiaX11: Thanks :)
[05:29] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ntfs doesn't support permissions, or at least not the way Linux does it. So when you mount an ntfs partition, you use the umask=code to give everything in that partition the same permissions.
[05:29] <geeksauce> arrenlex, so which number is assigned to which combo?  is it just set or is there a reason behind it?
[05:29] <arrenlex> geeksauce: catch is that umask codes are exactly the opposite of chmod codes.
[05:29] <GaiaX11> tannerld: You did not explain your point better
[05:29] <GaiaX11> tannerld: sorry.
[05:30] <Coir> Does anyone know if there is a version of Ubuntu that books off a USB-drive for Intel Macs?
[05:30] <colbert> Hello, I have IDE1 partitioned with XP and a blank partition, IDE2 with Ubuntu installed and a SATA drive with VISTA, I am trying to restore Grub after having reinstalled XP and would like to have all options at boot, can someone help??
[05:30] <omeil> ./configure then make depend then make is the process of compiling?
[05:30] <Coir> As in, a small external HDD :-P
[05:30] <tannerld> GaiaX11: information of a program. title like the name of it and state like (active, minimized...)
[05:30] <kevogod> Is there a netinst version?
[05:30] <xtknight> omeil: sure why not.  taken 5 secs ago.  http://xtknight.atothosting.com/images/mydesktop.png
[05:30] <long_duck_dong> I boot from the 6.10 cd, it gives me the login screen and when it tries to log in i get an error stating.. "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of disk space. Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem"
[05:30] <omeil> xtknight: thanks :D
[05:30] <GaiaX11> tannerld: ps -x
[05:30] <lordkeiden> Dr_willis: i was hopin someone knew a workaround for the stated limitation. the issue is that gparted cant move data out of the way, so the begining of the partition needs to be empty, but it fills up from the begining! I don't fancy copying 20GB to another drive via usb, and then manipulating the partitions as needed....then copying 20Gb back.
[05:30] <desi007> GaiaX11: Now it won't empty from trash :(
[05:31] <xtknight> gotta jet
[05:31] <xtknight> cya
[05:31] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7310/
[05:31] <Madpilot> long_duck_dong: that sounds like an error in the CD. Did you run the "test this CD" option from the first menu it shows you?
[05:31] <omeil> i tried linux mandrake before :D damn that was buggy :)
[05:31] <omeil> i restarted the computer normally then it never logged in again lol
[05:31] <tannerld> GaiaX11: do you know what the state letters mean?
[05:31] <khaije1> whats the feeling on the recent firefox bug the 'location.hostname'  ?
[05:31] <long_duck_dong> I never got that far cause I never saw that screen
[05:32] <Madpilot> long_duck_dong: did you run an md5sum on the ISO you downloaded?
[05:32] <long_duck_dong> can I do this from the failsafe terminal
[05:32] <long_duck_dong> no
[05:32] <Dr_willis> lordkeiden,  you MAY be able to shrink #2, then slide/move it to the right..  then expand #1
[05:32] <GaiaX11> desi007: man shred
[05:32] <long_duck_dong> no md5sum
[05:32] <gradin> ur... wrong window... :P
[05:32] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Anyway, umask permissions are the opposite of chmod permissions. So umask 000 = chmod 777 = full permissions.
[05:32] <jessie^^> anyone know how I can stop dhclient from editing my /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:32] <Wrongway> I'm getting an error trying to install thinliquidfilm... can anyone help?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> lordkeiden,  just 20gb? gesh... thats all? :) heh heh... oh for the good old days..
[05:32] <omeil> long duck what is ur laptop actualy doing?
[05:33] <arrenlex> geeksauce: In a sense, umask "masks out" the permissions you DON'T want to give, and chmod gives the permissions you DO want to give, so they are the reverse.
[05:33] <Madpilot> long_duck_dong: if you saw a login screen on the LiveCD, you went past the very first menu. Right after the LiveCD starts up, there's a menu with about 5 options, top is "Run/Install Ubuntu", a few down is "check this CD"
[05:33] <GaiaX11> tannerld: no
[05:33] <arrenlex> geeksauce: The umask mode you had set, 222, corresponds to r-xr-xr-x, which means everyone can read and execute files, but no one can write to them, which is fine because the system is read-only anyway.
[05:33] <tannerld> GaiaX11: ok, thanks :)
[05:33] <geeksauce> arrenlex, so each digit 0-7 has a unique value assigned to what combination of rwx?
[05:33] <arrenlex> geeksauce: That's right.
[05:33] <lordkeiden> Dr_willis: already tried that. i can shrink the end, but cant slide the partition into the newly created free space....
[05:34] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ah, i see
[05:34] <omeil> heaps of people are having video card compatability problems, most of them have to just configure the xorg.conf and change the nv or ati to VESA
[05:34] <omeil> then install the drivers manually later
[05:34] <armenb> is it possible to have a boot partition on something other than the first partition on a disk?
[05:34] <lordkeiden> Dr_willis: yeah...i remember wondering what I would ever do to fill my first 380MB drive!
[05:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Oh, an interesting tidbit is that changing to a folder is "executing" so you need execute permissions on folders you want to be able to open.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> lordkeiden,  cant think of any other good way to do it.. - you are talking to a person with 7 hd's in his machine. :) i know how I would do it.. but i am never hurting for space. heh heh
[05:34] <long_duck_dong> i will try the cd check and come back after!!!
[05:34] <Dr_willis> i got 1.25tb on this box.. in old drives..
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i could replace them all with like 2 hd.s now.
[05:35] <arrenlex> geeksauce: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7311/ thus
[05:35] <omeil> i don't think its the cd tho long duck :)
[05:35] <colbert> Hello, I have IDE1 partitioned with XP on first and then a empty partition, IDE2 with Ubuntu installed and a SATA drive with VISTA, I am trying to restore Grub after having reinstalled XP and would like to have all options at boot, can someone help??
[05:35] <geeksauce> arrenlex, lol yeah i set permissions wrong one time and couldn't open my own folder :-P
[05:35] <mikejanssen> i know this is a n00b question, but how do i install the firefox update to 2.0.0.2
[05:35] <mikejanssen> = X
[05:35] <narg> !nvidia
[05:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <Madpilot> Dr_willis: well, 3 drives, unless the HDDs larger than 500Gb have snuck out while I wasn't really watching.
[05:36] <omeil> how long does it take to compile wine from source?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Madpilot,  i though 750's were out now.
[05:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Madpilot,  and 1tb drives due out this year.
[05:36] <Madpilot> Dr_willis: might be, I haven't been paying attention past 500 ;)
[05:36] <lordkeiden> Dr_willis: my desktop maching is a lappy....but i am seriously considering losing the dvd and jury rigging in my 80GB IDE drive with a usb adapter!
[05:36] <arrenlex> geeksauce: So that's how it works.
[05:36] <desi007> Is there a way to create a desktop trash icon that will show empty when empty rather than always showing full?
[05:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Plz suggest a stable program for me to voice chat with my Yahoo! friends...
[05:36] <geeksauce> arrenlex, cool, thanks for explaining
[05:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Sure :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> gOLdenHaWK3D,  you mean using Yahoo Messenger?
[05:37] <jmatus> I have question
[05:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Took me a while to understand wtf was going on myself.
[05:37] <long_duck_dong> I dont think it is either but I am checking anyway, brb
[05:37] <xerophyte> I compiled kernel 2.6.20 network card came back online all the suddent its down .. does anybody know why is that
[05:37] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Dr_willis: no, I use Edgy, and i want a client to chat with my friends using Yahoo! Messanger on Windoze!
[05:37] <GaiaX11> !ask|jmatus
[05:37] <ubotu> jmatus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:37] <jmatus> i turn on my computer today , and when i logged in, a message pop up: internal erro, unable to load HAL
[05:37] <tannerld> gOLdenHaWK3D: gaim
[05:37] <lordkeiden> xerophyte: did you update ndiswrapper ?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> gOLdenHaWK3D,  thats what i asked.....
[05:38] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah i found the best way to really learn linux to just take the plunge and just delete windows completely from your pc and that way there's no "falling back" when you get frustrated :P
[05:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> tannerld: gaim does not support voice chat!!!
[05:38] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: gaim works for me on yahoo network
[05:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Dr_willis: yes!
[05:38] <jmatus> I tried  usind hald from the console but nothing happened
[05:38] <xerophyte> lordkeiden, what is that ?
[05:38] <tannerld> get teamspeak for voice or skype :)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> i got my webcam working with YahooMessenger and Kopete - not sure if it supports audio chatting.
[05:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: no, i want to do voice chat! otherwise it works fine
[05:39] <Arafangion> Man, why does windows use so damn much HDD space?
[05:39] <omeil> the next update for compliling should be a percentage bar of installation lol :) u can never tell if its ever going to finish installing -_-
[05:39] <tannerld> Dr_willis: heh
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Arafangion,  the fancy icons man.
[05:39] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: nm then :)  (though i heard gaim was going to incorporate voice... don't know if thats in cvs or not)
[05:39] <colbert> Please can someone help me with configuring GRUB with my HDs ??
[05:39] <Arafangion> Dr_willis: I *knew* there was a reason!
[05:39] <xerophyte> lordkeiden, its not wireless network card its onboard hardwired card
[05:39] <omeil> COIP?
[05:39] <omeil> VOIP
[05:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: oh!
[05:39] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I never had that problem. I never had to force myself to use Linux. I was just incredibly curious and interested in it, and by the time the novelty wore off I already liked it more.
[05:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: :(
[05:39] <GaiaX11> Arafangion: Try Vista :-)
[05:39] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: Tried it, not impressed with it.
[05:39] <lordkeiden> xerophyte: oh...missed that...ignore me then...
[05:39] <jmatus> how can i know if HAL is  working properly
[05:39] <kevogod> Vista makes Linux look like Windows 95.
[05:40] <Arafangion> kevogod: I disagree.
[05:40] <eracc> Open the pod bay doors HAL ...
[05:40] <kevogod> I am kidding.
[05:40] <omeil> and then again linux users know how crap it is :)
[05:40] <long_duck_dong> omeil, what do you think my error means??
[05:40] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D only voice chat i've done with windows is via teamspeak...
[05:40] <kevogod> Vista makes GNU/Linux look like Windows 95.
[05:40] <jmatus> how to Open the pod bay doors HAL
[05:40] <shatrat> kevogod, do you have nothing better to do?
[05:40] <Arafangion> omeil: I'd be happy if MS got SQL Server 2005 Express to work on it *when vista is released*
[05:40] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: teamspeak... hmmmmm
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Linux makes Vista feel like DOS. :)
[05:40] <geeksauce> arrenlex, if only.  every time i started to get the hang of it i'd get frustrated and reboot into M$.  no more of that now.
[05:40] <kevogod> shatrat, It was a subtle joke. Apparently you missed it.
[05:41] <Xenguy> kevogod: take a powder
[05:41] <omeil> but Vista is just even more of a memory hog :D
[05:41] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: it's a gamer's chat popular with online games.  used to play it with halo.  ts has a linux client, amazingly enough.
[05:41] <omeil> If i was on XP i wouldn't move onto VISTA
[05:41] <holycow> omeil, i was just reading up on vista
[05:41] <holycow> is it really true?
[05:41] <shatrat> apparently so subtle as not to be funny
[05:41] <holycow> how can any os require that much ram?
[05:41] <Arafangion> holycow: Nah, that's nothing.
[05:42] <holycow> we pretty much get beryl for free
[05:42] <Dr_willis> If i was on XP i would proberly be downloading updates and getting forced to reboot.....
[05:42] <omeil> holycow: something interesting stumbled upon you? :D
[05:42] <Xenguy> eracc: thank you
[05:42] <Arafangion> holycow: It's the recommended *video memory* that leaves me speechless.
[05:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: oh! i googled it already! i think it does not have yahoo voice chat support though! :( and this is bad!
[05:42] <omeil> holycow: or something crap?
[05:42] <shatrat> holycow, because it pre-caches commonly used applications to seem faster
[05:42] <holycow> Arafangion, and how much is recommended?
[05:42] <arrenlex> holycow: they left the takeUpTonsOfRamForNoReason(); call in.
[05:42] <mojo> funny background i found says VISTA:  Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware
[05:42] <geeksauce> arrenlex, do you know of a way to set a key combo to lock the screen?  i know i can just click the button i put on the bar at the top, but i'd like to be able to hit a key combo and have it lock real quick
[05:42] <Madpilot> People, Vista chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, thanks
[05:42] <Arafangion> holycow: Depends on how much "Wow" you want, right up to 512 MB
[05:42] <omeil> well its true
[05:42] <Dr_willis> It can even take up your usb-thumb drives to feed its HUNGER!
[05:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: does skype work fine with voice on ubuntu?
[05:42] <lordkeiden> I was on xp, and after looking at Vista, decided to move to Ubuntu!
[05:42] <holycow> omeil, nothing specific, just everyone says its slow when hardware ACCELERATED desktop is enabled
[05:42] <jmatus> how can I Open the pod bay doors HAL
[05:42] <geeksauce> i've done it before but it was so long ago i don't remember
[05:42] <holycow> i find that VERY hard to understand
[05:42] <shatrat> seriously though, empty ram does nobody any good. a smart OS is like a gas, it expands to fill whatever space is available
[05:42] <omeil> thats true
[05:43] <HAL> i can't do that dave
[05:43] <holycow> they don't even have a true 3d desktop, just some shitty effects
[05:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> omg
[05:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Sorry, I use KDE, and things work different there.
[05:43] <jmatus> how can I "" -- Open the pod bay doors HAL---"
[05:43] <Kaline> shatrat: Good way to put it.
[05:43] <holycow> Arafangion, your kidding?
[05:43] <holycow> holy canoly
[05:43] <omeil> some video cards don't even work with VISTA it requires some specific crap in a card to work properly.
[05:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I'm sure thousands of porn-loving Linux users everywhere have invented a multitude of ways, though.
[05:43] <omeil> 384mb minimum i think
[05:43] <HAL> jmatus i can't do that dave
[05:43] <shatrat> Kaline, I've been working on my gaseous theory of personal finance for years now.
[05:43] <Arafangion> holycow: Sadly no.  Even worse, Vista is best used with ATI drivers.  Some massive backstabbing politics going on there.  NVIdia must be pissed.
[05:43] <omeil> all they probably did is just add more proggys. i didn't really see the need of a new windows.
[05:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> does skype work fine with voice on ubuntu
[05:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ?
[05:43] <GaiaX11> mojo: Nice Vista explanation :-)
[05:43] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: i have not tried it... i was looking at wengophone as a possibility but after we tried vonage at the house (and it sucked badly) i decided not to mess with VoIP for the moment
[05:44] <Dr_willis> gOLdenHaWK3D,  it exists... so aparently it works..
[05:44] <kevogod> Ubuntu is best used with ATI drivers as well!
[05:44] <HAL> gOLdenHaWK3D: yes
[05:44] <lordkeiden> Arafangion: I have better ow in Ubuntu, and only have 512Mb Ram...and the eye candy works good down to 256.
[05:44] <Arafangion> holycow: NVidia works afaik, but was relatively unstable.
[05:44] <tannerld> gOLdenHaWK3D: probably
[05:44] <holycow> wow
[05:44] <arrenlex> Arafangion: That's funny! On Linux, ATI drivers are best used with the command line.
[05:44] <omeil> RIAA took part in the Vista project. so blame microsoft all the way for letting them in
[05:44] <geeksauce> arrenlex, lol i bet.  i just like it cause if i'm about to leave and i turn the monitor off w/o locking first then i have to turn it back on, wait for the screen to come up, then click, turn it off again
[05:44] <Arafangion> arrenlex: All *I* want is a damn graphics driver that survives sleep :(
[05:44] <omeil> 2 days after vista was released there was already iso's on the internet lol
[05:44] <lordkeiden> arrenlex: LOL  Trye true!
[05:44] <Arafangion> (ATI is integrated into this laptop)
[05:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> HAL: are yu quite sure, cuz i have the other person on windoze! and i would have to persuade him to install skype!
[05:45] <kevogod> I have an ATI x300. It's garbage.
[05:45] <holycow> shatrat, its not empty ram thats the issue why would an os REALLY actually need such gargantuan quantities before any apps are loaded.  i can load up knoppix/whatever into ram ... haven't counted but it isn't gigs
[05:45] <holycow> and thats the WHOLE OS including APPS
[05:45] <mojo> arrenlex: I think the OS radeon/ati drivers have come a long way.  fglrx is still faster at 3d fps but won't support composite.
[05:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> HAL: and if it doesnot work from my side, it would be quite embarrising
[05:45] <Arafangion> kevogod: I've got the x600, afaik.
[05:45] <HAL> gOLdenHaWK3D: i have used it quite often with someone using XP
[05:45] <MyGhetek> hey guys i want to dual boot windows xp pro and kubuntu on my laptop with 120gb. i want to have some sort of shared area where both os's can share data. i also want the snazziest (coolest) looking boot menu. ideas?
[05:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> HAL: oh! then its fine! thanx alot!
[05:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thanx all
[05:45] <holycow> !ext3
[05:45] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:45] <omeil> i wonder how much ubuntu uses but i bet its no more than 120
[05:45] <kevogod> Arafangion, Mine is a desktop card.
[05:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Ask around. I'm sure lots of people can help you out. Good luck.
[05:45] <mojo> kevogod: 1mans trash = another mans treasure... want my address?  i'll pay shipping to take it off your hands ;)
[05:45] <omeil> its probably more into the 2 digit era
[05:45] <arrenlex> Arafangion: Are you using the newest fglrx?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> MyGhetek,  with the right addon - you can get windows to read/write ext3/2
[05:45] <holycow> MyGhetek, ext3 seems to be the best for bost oses
[05:45] <shatrat> holycow, well when you write programs in vb.net they tend to be a little inefficient space wise
[05:45] <Xenguy> MyGhetek: one way is to make a FAT32 partition for sharing
[05:46] <Arafangion> MyGhetek: grub, then you have a choice of format: ntfs, fat, or ext2.  The /easiest/ is fat, but it has significant limitations.
[05:46] <kevogod> mojo, As long as you send me an NVidia equivalent.
[05:46] <geeksauce> arrenlex, will do.  thanks again
[05:46] <arrenlex> Arafangion: Word is that they've actually managed to make them less horrible with the newest release.
[05:46] <holycow> and its a journaled fs unlike fat32
[05:46] <Xenguy> MyGhetek: I don't know how reliable NTFS is yet on Ubu
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I dont use a fat32 shared partition any more.. I make  a ext3 shared partition. :)
[05:46] <Arafangion> arrenlex: The latest versions for my card do not survive sleep.
[05:46] <MyGhetek> ok so do i install winxp first or ubuntu?
[05:46] <omeil> is ther ea big difference between vb.net and VB 6?
[05:46] <Kaline> I always wondered about that, does it treat ext2/3 filesystems as though they were normal volumes and can be browsed in Explorer or via a separate FM?
[05:46] <kevogod> MyGhetek, XP
[05:46] <omeil> cause i know VB 6 and its quite easy
[05:46] <geeksauce> what's this i hear about the OSX-like spaces feature in edgy?
[05:46] <Arafangion> omeil: Is there a big difference between Latin and English?
[05:47] <omeil> Arafangion: that question i don't know lol :D
[05:47] <mojo> kevogod: actually i think ati makes good hardware and totally boffs it come driver time, linux or windows side of the equation.
[05:47] <MyGhetek> ok so i will install xp with a smaller partition size then install kubuntu on the rest with the swap
[05:47] <Arafangion> omeil: Guess.
[05:47] <MyGhetek> and i should just use the ext3 driver to access the ubuntu storage from windows?
[05:47] <omeil> Yes :D
[05:47] <holycow> mojo, ita always been that way, even on windows.  no one uses ati for professional 3d or video work for example
[05:47] <Arafangion> omeil: Very clever!
[05:47] <lordkeiden> MyGhetek: I use the ext2 driver that ubotu mentioned , on my ext3 drive, and it works great for me. I dont use the shared area extensively, and usually windows reads it, not writes to it...but i have no complaints
[05:47] <holycow> except maybe on apple boxes
[05:47] <kevogod> mojo, OK, if you like this card so much why don't you marry it?
[05:47] <Krunk> Hi. I've tried to figure out how one can get a non-X console in order to install Nvidia proprietary driver in Ubuntu 6,10. The best I've come up with is to ESC before X starts up and use the 'safe' mode kernel. However, after I've installed the thing, it indicates that GLX is not installed or corrupted (installation instructions tell me to remove 'glx' from xorg.conf). I can'tr seem to get accelerated #D to work. Anyone know what I can do?
[05:47] <arrenlex> Arafangion: latest version != ubuntu version. You're sure you're using 8.33.6?
[05:47] <gOLdenHaWK3D> And any help about bluetooth? ca we send .sis files to a nokia phone over bluetooth using ubuntu?
[05:47] <omeil> not really they are obth completely different.
[05:47] <geeksauce> anyone know what i'm talking about?  there's a video of it being demonstrated on youtube
[05:48] <Arafangion> arrenlex: Downloaded from ati website.
[05:48] <holycow> Krunk, why not install nvidia-glx from repos?
[05:48] <arrenlex> Arafangion: Alright. Sorry, man.
[05:48] <Arafangion> arrenlex: Heck, even the bug's officially recorded in the notes.
[05:48] <omeil> its like comparing Japanese to russian lol
[05:48] <kevogod> geeksauce, Beryl?
[05:48] <gOLdenHaWK3D> And any help about bluetooth? ca we send .sis/.mp3/.rm files to a nokia phone over bluetooth using ubuntu?
[05:48] <holycow> Krunk, those are proprietary drivers, just nicely packaged so you can easily remove them
[05:48] <holycow> try it
[05:48] <cfedde> Krunk: ctl-alt-f1?
[05:48] <Arafangion> arrenlex: They're "looking into it", but they've probably got their hands full with vista.
[05:48] <MyGhetek> ok last question. i have a broadcom card for my dell d610 and an intel one that i prefer for windows, do both of those work in ubuntu?
[05:48] <omeil> does anyone know an estimated time of how long it will take to compile wine from source?
[05:48] <geeksauce> kevogod, huh?
[05:48] <mojo> kevogod: ha ha ha... it's not like that... i was just saying ati could be much better if they could write a driver to save their life... nvidia has trumped them for a while because of this.  i am not dissing nvidia by saying ati makes good hardware designs
[05:48] <arrenlex> Arafangion: xD I hate it when the companies are like, "look, we're incompetent boobs, but we don't care because you people aren't important!" to the Linux people.
[05:49] <kevogod> geeksauce, http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php
[05:49] <holycow> MyGhetek, chances are the windows works, the broadcom is iffy, you might get lucky
[05:49] <jmatus> does ubuntu loads automatically flash memories
[05:49] <arrenlex> Arafangion: They could at least not flaunt it.
[05:49] <Krunk> holycow: I did that and it doesn'tr work. Now even if I install games they don't actually install. Is this common? (Btw, I'm on my fifth or sixth complete install)
[05:49] <colbert> Hi guys I have 2 IDE drives, 1 with XP and 1 with Ubuntu and a SATA drive with Vista and I'm trying to get GRUB to boot all 3, can anyone please help ????
[05:49] <holycow> jmatus, yes
[05:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> And any help about bluetooth? ca we send .sis/.mp3/.rm files to a nokia phone over bluetooth using ubuntu?
[05:49] <omeil> is NeverWinter Niights 100% linux comptaible????
[05:49] <MyGhetek> ok im gonna give all this a shot, wish me luck guys, and thanks for the support!
[05:49] <jmatus> mine doesn't mount
[05:49] <holycow> Krunk, it does work, you might need to double check that your xorg.conf file is configure properly
[05:49] <shatrat> omeil, the first one is, nwn2 isnt
[05:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> MyGhetek: Good Luck dude!
[05:49] <holycow> Krunk, or reinstall
[05:49] <silverdub> Does anyone know how to dual boot a computer with Vista and Ubuntu?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> omeil,  thers a native linux port of it - so yes.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> omeil,  you may have to download the linxu binary however. if its not on the install cd's
[05:50] <jmatus> i think there may be a problem with HAL, my usb doesn't mount automatically
[05:50] <lordkeiden> is there a way to hide a partition from windows via grub?
[05:50] <kevogod> geeksauce, Or Compiz: http://www.go-compiz.org/index.php?title=Video
[05:50] <gOLdenHaWK3D> silverdub: just install ubuntu, and it will take care of your windoze partitions automatically
[05:50] <Krunk> holycow: again?? sigh .. Mandrake does the whole thing w/o a hitch. How I hate Gnome . . .
[05:50] <omeil> there is an ikernel.ex_ thats the only thing on the cd that sounds anything like linux lol
[05:50] <jmatus> any suggestions
[05:50] <holycow> jmatus, try a reinstall, i know it sucks but its easier to do a clean install than track down a hal issue
[05:50] <holycow> Krunk, what are you talking about? nvidia has nothing to do with gnome
[05:51] <holycow> Krunk, it has everything to do with ubuntu
[05:51] <silverdub> yeah but once I hit start or install it just goes to a black sceen with a blinking cursor line in the top left corner of the screen
[05:51] <omeil> i just don't get how i can install neverwinternights if there is nothing to execute it with linux
[05:51] <GaiaX11> MyGhetek: WinXP > Fat=40gb ; Kubuntu > ext3=90gb. That's a suggestion. But, you do not need XP in your machine. Do as I did = throw Win away and stick to Linux only :-)
[05:51] <jmatus> ther must be other way
[05:51] <holycow> Krunk, ubuntu tries to stick with free software, it doesn't 'yet' let you install proprietary stuff on install
[05:51] <Dr_willis> omeil,  go to the official web site... they have an installer/binary you download and use.
[05:51] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Krunk: gnome has nothing to do with the drivers!
[05:51] <holycow> you haveto do it manually
[05:51] <gOLdenHaWK3D> And any help about bluetooth? ca we send .sis/.mp3/.rm files to a nokia phone over bluetooth using ubuntu?
[05:51] <omeil> oh ok
[05:51] <silverdub> omeil: there are windows emulator type programs that can run windows apps on linux
[05:51] <omeil> yea im currently trying to install wine
[05:52] <Krunk> holycow: well, gnome isn't as intuitive as kde . . . config stuff is well hidden.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> silverdub,  neverwinters night has a Native Linux port. :)
[05:52] <omeil> im compiling it from source but it sure AS HELL TAKES ITS TIME
[05:52] <holycow> Krunk, wtf are you talking about?
[05:52] <`Z`> re
[05:52] <kevogod> GNOME is not as intuitive as KDE. Are you kidding me?
[05:52] <holycow> Krunk, everything is in system/admin
[05:52] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: i know there are drivers in ubuntu because i killed them (don't have the hardware, why run the daemons?) but can't speak to usage
[05:52] <holycow> Krunk, start up synaptic or install from terminal
[05:52] <omeil> everyone HERE DON'T EVER USE MANDRAKE LOL :)
[05:52] <GaiaX11> !wine| silverdub
[05:52] <ubotu> silverdub: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:52] <holycow> Krunk, also if you like, install kde
[05:52] <silverdub> Dr_willis: do you know how to overcome an install error. When I try to install I just get a black screen
[05:53] <holycow> i don't see what you are complaining about
[05:53] <Krunk> holycow: everything: try to get at a non-X console - lotsa fun.
[05:53] <Arafangion> kevogod: Don't be a nazi, just run KDE. (This is a subtle reference to another, erm... discussion about this)
[05:53] <eracc> Mandrake? The Magician?
[05:53] <holycow> ubuntu only ships with gnome default, we have everything in repos
[05:53] <omeil> silver dub
[05:53] <geeksauce> kevogod, i'm not sure which i saw on youtube.  it was on digg and i was under the impression that it was part of edgy cause everyone was all excited around the release date
[05:53] <Dr_willis> silverdub,  installing ubuntu?  try the alt-install cd? or live cd?
[05:53] <Krunk> holycow: did that and it really borked
[05:53] <silverdub> Dr_willis: after the first main menu when the cd is loading
[05:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: oh! actually i was going to install ubuntu on someones pc, and he runs xp. he would start using ubuntu, if his voice chat & bluetooth work fine in ubuntu! This was the reason i was asking
[05:53] <holycow> Krunk, people complaining usually rub everyone the wrong way as usually they didn't really look
[05:53] <mojo> omeil: mandrake was my first distro.  but then rpm morphed into a four letter word
[05:53] <omeil> does your monitor go on standby or do u just get a black screen?
[05:53] <kevogod> geeksauce, You can install it on Ubuntu.
[05:53] <silverdub> Dr_willis: live
[05:53] <kevogod> geeksauce, It is not part of the default installation yet.
[05:53] <omeil> mandrake was quite buggy for me
[05:53] <Dr_willis> silverdub,  id say try the alt-install cd.
[05:53] <omeil> actually really buggy
[05:53] <Arafangion> mojo: I used it before it morphed into a four-letter word, and it still was a joke.
[05:53] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: wish i could tell you more but i have never had bluetooth hardware... if i did, i surely would play with it.
[05:53] <silverdub> Dr_willis: how do you do an apt install from windows?
[05:54] <Arafangion> mojo: Especially MDK 7.0
[05:54] <kevogod> Arafangion, I do not care for him.
[05:54] <holycow> Krunk, well it sounds like you decided already athat mandrake is better so use that
[05:54] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: np, thanx mojo
[05:54] <sapage> I have a problem with remote VNC in ubuntu when i VNC into my machine the screen does not update at all
[05:54] <omeil> silverdub: do u hear music while there is a black screen infront of you?
[05:54] <Krunk> holycow: I really like Ubuntu, but I really did 'look' - try changing ther video card, or monitor in Gnome - good luck!
[05:54] <lordkeiden> is there a way to hide a partition from windows via grub?
[05:54] <holycow> not sure what we can do to help with that attitude part, but everything works
[05:54] <holycow> Krunk, what are you talking about again?
[05:54] <kevogod> Krunk, Try Kubuntu if you do not like GNOME.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> lordkeiden,  go to the grub homepage and check the grub docs.. yes i think there is a way to do it.
[05:54] <geeksauce> kevogod, which one do you recommend?  i only have 1 stick of 512 in this box, and an nvidia gforce 4 video card
[05:55] <holycow> what do you mean try changing video card in gnome? what the hell does that even mean?
[05:55] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: i think i should install ubuntu on his pc, and later i can help him out! atleast skype would work.
[05:55] <omeil> silverdub: you there?
[05:55] <omeil> jesus who knew compiling coudl take so long:)
[05:55] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: go google up bluetooth ubuntu howto there are several hits to investigate
[05:56] <kevogod> geeksauce, I do not know what would be best for your video card. Your memory is plenty though.
[05:56] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: oh! good idea! lol. thanx
[05:56] <Krunk> holycow: sorry I ruffled feathers here. I'll keep opinions to myself.
[05:56] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: yeah, look into "obex" utilities too
[05:56] <holycow> Krunk, well if you have opinions that are unfounded, biased and wrong, never mind that they don't make sense ...
[05:57] <holycow> ... do you really think expecting us not to challenge your opinions?
[05:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: i think i found out how to transfer files to a bluetooth device! its on ubuntuguide.org.
[05:57] <holycow> *insert* ... its reasonable ...
[05:57] <shriphani> erm can anyone mention how to change the xterm background colour ?
[05:57] <mojo> gOLdenHaWK3D: cool beans!  good luck with your userfriend
[05:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> mojo: ;) thanx for your help
[05:58] <Arafangion> Hmm, going to install Ubuntu now, 20GB /should/ be enough for windows.  10GB should be plenty for Ubuntu, (plus 15GB for HOME)
[05:58] <geeksauce> kevogod, is it difficult to install in ubuntu?  i mean are there deb packages or would i have to compile?
[05:58] <shriphani> geeksauce, ubuntu uses apt
[05:58] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What are you talking about?
[05:59] <colbert> Can someone help me with restoring GRUB? I have used Super Grub Disk and it's still not working correctly
[05:59] <pirothezero> wow is there any email client that would seperate email by account/server instead of putting it all int he inbox?
[05:59] <kevogod> He wants to install Compiz or Beryl. He is wondering if it is a hassle or not.
[05:59] <geeksauce> arrenlex, compiz
[05:59] <shriphani> ohhh
[05:59] <GaiaX11> Arafangion: You don't need Win in your machine. Throw it away :-) Set yourself free!
[05:59] <arrenlex> geeksauce: compiz? That's an odd choice. Most people run beryl nowadays.
[05:59] <Kaline> pirothezero: Most cliens allow for multiple mailboxes, what are you using?
[05:59] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: I require windows to run a /crap/ game, for uni :(
[05:59] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: How's that for irony?
[05:59] <pirothezero> evolution and thunderbird
[05:59] <eracc> pirothezero, use filters (if your client has them).
[05:59] <holycow> pirothezero, thunderbird
[05:59] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Beryl is more integrated into the standard setup, while compiz requires switching X servers. And I know for sure there are ubuntu repositories.
[05:59] <holycow> pirothezero, yeah i hate that about evolution as well
[05:59] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ok i'll try that then.  i didn't have a preference so i just picked one at random :P
[05:59] <pirothezero> i want it how outlook has it on the left each account and i click on it and it goes to only that email
[06:00] <omeil> wow you can totally configure the look for the x terminal :D
[06:00] <kevogod> The next question would be XGL or AIGLX or both?
[06:00] <arrenlex> geeksauce: First, what does the output of "glxinfo | grep render" say?
[06:00] <eracc> Oh, evolution, NM.
[06:00] <GaiaX11> Arafangion: I am serious. It is not irony :-)
[06:00] <holycow> i think thunderbird does have that, try it
[06:00] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: So am I :(
[06:00] <pirothezero> ya opening it right now
[06:00] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: ONE DAMN GAME!
[06:00] <geeksauce> glxinfo | grep render
[06:00] <kevogod> How come GNOME reformatted my hard drive?
[06:00] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: One Damn 12 MB DirectX game!
[06:00] <GaiaX11> Arafangion: There are other games.
[06:01] <lufis> kevogod: i think you mean ubuntu, right?
[06:01] <holycow> kevogod, gnome doesn't reformat anything
[06:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Arafangion: Every gamer has windows on his pc!
[06:01] <holycow> kevogod, you did :/
[06:01] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: It's for a gaming major engineering project at my uni.
[06:01] <Arafangion> gOLdenHaWK3D: I am not a gamer.
[06:01] <kevogod> holycow, I think you are taking things to seriously.
[06:01] <eracc> If a game is not native to, nor ported to Linux I won't use it.
[06:01] <geeksauce> arrenlex, >>  direct rendering: No       OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Arafangion: oh!
[06:01] <GaiaX11> Arafangion: Ok.
[06:01] <holycow> kevogod, ditto ... :)
[06:01] <kevogod> *too
[06:02] <omeil> i don't have windows installed and im sorta a gamer :)
[06:02] <n3rrd> Man.  Does Ubuntu 6.1 HAVE to boot off the CD before installing?  it's driving this T21 insane.
[06:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Arafangion: but i think Windoze was designed for Gamez ONLY! Lol
[06:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Ouch. You're not running any beryl without a bit of effort.
[06:02] <Arafangion> GaiaX11: I'd run it in wine, but the /particular/ d3dx9_30.dll isn't implemented yet.
[06:02] <sapage> !vnc
[06:02] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Or compiz, or anything 3D.
[06:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What card do you have?
[06:02] <GaiaX11> eracc: Good bet :-)
[06:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Video card.
[06:02] <holycow> n3rrd, the live cd has bugs ... i help people all the time with it.  download the alternate cd, it uses d-i the awesome debian installer ... its curses based but just great
[06:02] <eracc> ;-)
[06:03] <Hatty> xtknight: I've found the source of the error, but i dont know how to fix it.if i link to libc i cant run it, if i dont i can, but i need to link to libc
[06:03] <dougb> what is a good PHP editor?
[06:03] <eracc> vi
[06:03] <Hatty> ^
[06:03] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i'm not positive... nvidia gforce 4, but not sure if it's 64 or 128.  it was given to me used.  has 2 VGA outs on the back
[06:03] <Arafangion> eracc: vi stinks.  Use vim
[06:03] <dougb> haha, where's a good place to learn about vi?
[06:03] <holycow> quanta+ is also said to be a really good ide for php
[06:03] <eracc> OK, vi/m
[06:03] <omeil> goldenhawk windows wasn't really created for gaming..it was the only OS publicly known. so all companies turned to that OS.
[06:03] <Hatty> dougb: if you want a gui, bluefish
[06:03] <dougb> ubuntu doesn't seem to have vimtutor
[06:03] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Oh, if it's nvidia, it won't be so bad.
[06:03] <arrenlex> !nvidia | geeksauce
[06:03] <ubotu> geeksauce: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <n3rrd> holycow:  haha, alright.  IT took me a while toget this one to work.  :(  Had to burn it two or three times.  Newer drives didn't mind the burnt disc but the older drive needed it burnt slower.
[06:03] <pirothezero> word i found it in thunderbird, thanks for making me go back and look ;>
[06:04] <GaiaX11> dougb: man vi
[06:04] <omeil> if Linux was big with ads and millions of dollars for advertising. companies would create games for both OS's
[06:04] <kevogod> Bluefish is better than vi.
[06:04] <Hasrat_USA> woooooooooo hoooooooooooo!!!
[06:04] <n3rrd> holycow:  but atleast the partitions are all ready, I suppose.
[06:04] <dougb> thanks GaiaX11
[06:04] <kevogod> Let's discuss.
[06:04] <eracc> If GUI is required to edit PHP ($DEITY alnoe knows why) then nedit.
[06:04] <gOLdenHaWK3D> omeil: you are quite right
[06:04] <geeksauce> arrenlex, how can i determine what kind of card it is exactly?
[06:04] <arrenlex> geeksauce: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:04] <Hasrat_USA> i just installed KDE in ubuntu. it kicks vista's arse :)
[06:04] <eracc> *alone
[06:04] <holycow> n3rrd, its a fantastic idea, i think in the future all linux distros will be live cd installs.  its just the right way to do it ... no bs installers like anaconda to maintain.  but for now its still got some rough spots so i'm glad d-i is around and stick around
[06:04] <kevogod> Arse?
[06:04] <omeil> So maybe in the future Linux will take its toll and rise against MS :D
[06:04] <Arafangion> Hasrat_USA: It has an arse?
[06:05] <Hatty> Hasrat_USA: X kicks Vista
[06:05] <Hasrat_USA> kde forever!! :)
[06:05] <kevogod> omeil, You mean Apple?
[06:05] <holycow> omeil, one day at a time
[06:05] <n3rrd> holycow: i agree.  it normally isn't too bad.  It just gets tough on systems with less memory available.
[06:05] <omeil> yup
[06:05] <holycow> one thing we need to be aware of is we don't want to get too popular too quick
[06:05] <holycow> let me get a great link
[06:05] <l2s> anyone know if howtoforge is running joomla?
[06:05] <omeil> i guess so.
[06:05] <holycow> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endless_September
[06:06] <GaiaX11> Hasrat_USA: Do not compare Ubuntu to Vista :-(
[06:06] <Hasrat_USA> kevogod: in uk they call it arse :P
[06:06] <holycow> thats a great article on why one doesn't want to attract people too fast
[06:06] <holycow> we need time to teach people how to use systems well
[06:06] <kevogod> Apple is more likely to topple Microsoft than GNU/Linux in the near future.
[06:06] <shriphani> eracc, any ideas on how to change xterm background colours
[06:06] <Hatty> shriphani: theres a configuration file
[06:06] <geeksauce> arrenlex, GeForce4 MX 440... is that good?
[06:06] <holycow> yeah it would acutally be better if apple does
[06:06] <eracc> shriphani, do you want to change it while running or on start?
[06:06] <Hasrat_USA> gotta take a shower :) kde rules :)
[06:07] <kevogod> Why would it be better?
[06:07] <GaiaX11> Hasrat_USA: No comparison
[06:07] <shriphani> eracc, while running
[06:07] <holycow> the support costs for joe 6 pack are huge, but joe doesn't have any money
[06:07] <omeil> lol MS and apple are already beginning to compete with each other with there mini products like the ipod and Zune
[06:07] <holycow> let apple handle them
[06:07] <arrenlex> geeksauce: No idea, haven't had an nvidia card for a while. If it's reasonably modern, it'll be sufficient.
[06:07] <eracc> shriphani, ah, I'm not sure then.
[06:07] <eracc> shriphani, maybe.
[06:07] <omeil> does anyone know an estimated time on how long it takes to compile someting from source?
[06:07] <kevogod> Apple is no better than Microsoft. Their OS may be better but that's about it.
[06:08] <arrenlex> omeil: It depends what, and what your system is like. o_O
[06:08] <shriphani> arrenlex, zune has pretty good features but microsoft blew it with their WiFi
[06:08] <holycow> kevogod, THATS another great reason why apple should have the users :)
[06:08] <holycow> lol
[06:08] <arrenlex> omeil: int main(void) {printf("Hello\n");} compiles in 0.5 seconds.
[06:08] <geeksauce> arrenlex, do i really need tv out support?
[06:08] <arrenlex> geeksauce: For what?
[06:08] <gOLdenHaWK3D> arrenlex: you are right dude!
[06:08] <kevogod> holycow, You are simply exchanging masters.
[06:08] <gOLdenHaWK3D> arrenlex: iPod rocks!
[06:08] <omeil> that compiles the text?
[06:08] <gOLdenHaWK3D> arrenlex: but iPhone is quite expensive!
[06:08] <Hatty> gOLdenHaWK3D: ew @ iPod.
[06:09] <geeksauce> arrenlex, it's listed as a prerequisite for nvidia driver install
[06:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Hatty: :(
[06:09] <holycow> kevogod, well i'm not, i'm just thinking getting ms users to swap masters is a great interim position
[06:09] <omeil> im trying to compile the Wine source
[06:09] <holycow> we need LOTS of time to assimilate new users
[06:09] <omeil> and its been on MAKE for well over 30 minutes
[06:09] <shriphani> Hatty, care to tell me where this config file is ?
[06:09] <rssn> Good evening, forgive the strange question, but I'm very new to Ubuntu, just booted it off the CD for the first time. Trying to avoid using Windows, but unsure if Ubuntu can work for me... Will it be very difficult to get OpenGL and quake3 running on Ubuntu? Can I manually set my screen refresh rate in Ubuntu, beyond specifications (currently Gnome only sees 60hz, no more). Finally, is it possible to change the frequency of my mouse-USB 
[06:09] <Hatty> gOLdenHaWK3D: doesnt support ogg vorbis, uses proprietary DRM acc
[06:09] <Hatty> shriphani: you have to make it. ~/.xtermrc methinks
[06:09] <kevogod> I only use MIDIs for my music.
[06:09] <omeil> There is a Quake3 port to linux isn' there?
[06:10] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I dunno. I've never bothered with it or tried it. Just ignore that, you'll be fine.
[06:10] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Hatty: oh yes!
[06:10] <holycow> rssn, not easily ,.. you haveto learn new skills because everything you learned on windows is wrong
[06:10] <kevogod> Is there a decent MIDI player in Ubuntu?
[06:10] <holycow> rssn, the other answers are yes
[06:10] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ok cool.  i'll keep you posted
[06:10] <Hatty> kevogod: timidity
[06:10] <rssn> holycow: Yay? USB Refresh rate can be tweaked on Ubuntu?
[06:10] <Hatty> kevogod: it will play midi files and run as a midi synth server
[06:10] <eracc> "Decent MIDI" is an oxymoron ...
[06:10] <kevogod> Hatty, Last time I tried it, it did not work.
[06:11] <holycow> rssn, usb refresh rate? what the heck is a usb refresh rate? you mean video refresh rates right?
[06:11] <Hatty> kevogod: wouldnt play file?
[06:11] <kevogod> It had a problem with my soundcard.
[06:11] <omeil> OMG KILL ME
[06:11] <holycow> and yes of course, but we don't have a gui for that ... yet .... you can set them manually in xorg.conf file and just restart the xserver easily
[06:11] <kevogod> Although my soundcard is a standard Realtek AC'97.
[06:11] <rssn> holycow: I meant the frequency (measured in HZ) at which your mouse movements are scanned thru the USB port.
[06:11] <gOLdenHaWK3D> bye all
[06:11] <omeil> lol
[06:11] <omeil> Terminal hasn't stopped compiling yet 0_O
[06:11] <holycow> rssn, lol, what? ohhhh no idea.  your a serious gamer and are trying to reduce latency?
[06:12] <Hatty> kevogod: works with my ac'97 intel whatever onboard crap
[06:12] <holycow> rssn, i'm certain the answer is yes but you are the first person that has actually asked this and i don't know ... hmmm
[06:12] <Arafangion> rssn: Do you have a TFT monitor, by any chance?
[06:12] <rssn> holycow: I usually play at a 1000hz for USB port, which is different from a default of 125 hz, makes a slightly noticeable difference.
[06:12] <kevogod> Hatty, I actually tried a lot of stuff but was never able to get MIDI to work. It was why I had to go back to Windows.
[06:12] <rssn> Arafangion: I use a widescreen TFT for desktop and work but a CRT for gaming.
[06:12] <GaiaX11> rssn: Stick to Linux and you will see what a computer really is and what it can do for you at its most :-)
[06:12] <Hatty> what did you need midi playback for?
[06:12] <eracc> Go back to Windows ... for MIDI. Egad.
[06:12] <l2s> anyone know if howtoforge is running joomla?
[06:12] <rssn> GaiaX11: Thank you.
[06:13] <lufis> rssn: how do you change that?
[06:13] <holycow> rssn, maybe you should stay on windows if you play games ... i'm not sure how happy you will be here.  we can help but you may want to try setting it up on a test system and seeing how that works there
[06:13] <kevogod> Hatty, I have 10 million MIDI files that I listen to.
[06:13] <roler> is there a edgy bluetooth howto? I'm trying to get my Dell 355 Bluetooth chip working
[06:13] <Hatty> ..
[06:13] <Hatty> =/
[06:13] <rssn> lufis: Change my USB frequency? I use a certain tweak tool for that in Windows.
[06:13] <Arafangion> rssn: Ahh, well, TFT works best with 60HZ, but as for the CRT... have you tried unplugging the TFT, and plugging the CRT in, and THEN starting (or restarting) X11?
[06:13] <arrenlex> omeil: Wine usually takes 30 minutes to compile on this new machine (AMD 3800+); took about an hour on my old machine (P4@1.6GHz)
[06:13] <lufis> rssn: oh, i thought you meant in linux
[06:13] <eracc> kevogod, you are sick. Sick I say! :-)
[06:13] <holycow> Arafangion, he is talking about moding th USB frequency range :)
[06:13] <holycow> not crt range btw
[06:13] <rssn> Arafangion: Is this true? I did not know. Currently, my Acer can support 75hz under 1680x1050, but it is not a standard setting.
[06:13] <omeil> im 2.66GHZ with 768 DDR ram
[06:14] <Hatty> kevogod: try muse
[06:14] <omeil> 256mb Geforce 6200A
[06:14] <rssn> holycow: Not entirely true, I did show a bit of interest in tweaking my monitor frequency as well
[06:14] <Arafangion> rssn: Some support 72, or 75 MHz, indeed, but they are still optimal with 60.
[06:14] <lufis> Oh yeah? well... i'm compiling from source the latest cvs. Top that
[06:14] <Hatty> or go buy a soundcard
[06:14] <holycow> all good :)
[06:14] <kevogod> OK, maybe it's not why I went back to Windows but it was a slight annoyance!
[06:14] <eracc> LOL
[06:14] <Hatty> main reason?
[06:14] <rssn> Arafangion: Thank you. I just felt a noticeable movement difference with 75 hz however, even on a desktop, not in a game.
[06:14] <omeil> there is 2 midi players for ubuntu. Amarok and KMid
[06:14] <holycow> kevogod, you won't live long enough to listen to all of them
[06:15] <holycow> heh
[06:15] <holycow> :)
[06:15] <Kevros> I am trying to install the latest version of ndiswrapper to get my wireless to work, and giri from their IRC channel told me to ask here to find out how to install libc.
[06:15] <Arafangion> rssn: Be aware that sometimes improvement is phycological.
[06:15] <omeil> can u sudo apt-get install libc?
[06:15] <kevogod> Hatty, I wanted to play some Warcraft III: TFT but I was not particularly happy with playing it in Cedega or WINE.
[06:15] <lufis> Is anyone here familiar with crip, the perl script for cd ripping? Anyone have any similar tools?
[06:15] <tehxed> Anyone here experience any trouble with Beryl using the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M?
[06:15] <Hatty> kevogod: Meh. Dual boot
[06:16] <Kevros> my computer is not online since my wireless doesn't work, is there any way I can download it with my windows laptop and move it with a usb flash drive?
[06:16] <eracc> Heh, no Warcraft III for Linux.
[06:16] <Arafangion> rssn: For example: An application that "loads" in 0.5 seconds, but takes 65 minutes to do it's task, will probably seem faster than an application that takes 10 seconds to load, but takes 80 minutes to do its task.
[06:16] <kevogod> Dual boot is pointless to me. It is more hassle than it's worth.
[06:16] <GaiaX11> Kevros: You have it in the ubuntu cd
[06:16] <holycow> Kevros, sure, packages.ubuntu.com
[06:16] <holycow> or what GaiaX11 said
[06:16] <Arafangion> Yeah, dualbooting is a /pain/.
[06:16] <holycow> wait ... GaiaX11 is that actually on the cd?
[06:16] <eracc> I guess Blizzard don't want my money,
[06:16] <Hatty> Arafangion: nah
[06:16] <Talaman> ok, still having issue
[06:17] <kevogod> Whenever I have a dual boot system, I end up not dual booting.
[06:17] <GaiaX11> holycow: Ndis. Yes
[06:17] <foormea> hey
[06:17] <Kevros> ok, I have the ubuntu cd in and did "sudo apt-get install libc"  It says, couldn't find package libc
[06:17] <tehxed> Anyone here experience any trouble with Beryl using the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M?
[06:17] <holycow> neat, thx.
[06:17] <cry0x> anyone know of a good southern california repository? I'm getting awful speeds (150K/s) from the server recommended by "Select Best Server"
[06:17] <cry0x> which was in oregon
[06:17] <Hatty> Kevros: try glibc
[06:17] <turbolover> hey i think i figured out why the updats made my machine slower
[06:17] <kevogod> cry0x, Try BitTorrent.
[06:17] <Kevros> didnt find glibc either
[06:17] <Arafangion> cry0x: 150K... nice! :)
[06:17] <holycow> cry0x, try uk, strangely they tend to be consistent
[06:17] <roler> is there a edgy bluetooth howto? I'm trying to get my Dell 355 Bluetooth chip working
[06:17] <boredandblogging> roler, have you checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth/Docs
[06:17] <turbolover> when it updated my ati driver it made the fglrx module restricted again
[06:17] <eracc> Yeah, I had a quad boot box in 2001. I only accessed the "Windows" partitions from the other OSs to get files ...
[06:18] <turbolover> err control panel
[06:18] <GaiaX11> Kevros: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper wireless-tolls
[06:18] <holycow> !spelling
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <rssn> Everyone: If Ubuntu (booted off a CD and not installed) has just restarted itself after going through a black screen, is this an instability problem with my hardware? The reason I am trying Ubuntu is that my windows is giving Blue Screens of death and no longer being properly stable.
[06:18] <holycow> lol
[06:18] <GaiaX11> Kevros: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper wireless-tools
[06:18] <kevogod> I am currently downloading the 6.10 DVD though and plan on using Ubuntu again.
[06:18] <roler> boredandblogging, ; looking now, thanks
[06:18] <l2s> strange ncftp is a package not found
[06:18] <holycow> rssn, how far does it get? it could be yes
[06:18] <Hatty> Kevros: i dont see libc in my apt-cache
[06:18] <GaiaX11> !ndiswrapper| Kevros
[06:18] <ubotu> Kevros: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:19] <blackest> anyone know how to configure broadcast on kaffeine
[06:19] <holycow> rssn, it could be bad ram, or an issue with say video hardware where the driver hits something unexpected and kills the kernel
[06:19] <turbolover> oh yay i think it turned ipv6 back on too
[06:19] <turbolover> !ipv6
[06:19] <Kevros> Gaiax11: I don't want the ndiswrapper that is on the ubuntu cd, the folks over at ndiswrapper asked me to try it with the latest version, and I cannot install that because I don't have the right libraries
[06:19] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:19] <kevogod> Does anyone know if Mono is available in the default repositories?
[06:19] <boredandblogging> roler, also check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:19] <kevogod> for 6.10
[06:20] <rssn> holycow: How far does the installation get? I haven't tried installing Ubuntu, but upon reinstallation of Windows, I had random blue screens all the way through, at the partitioning screen, at the configuring windows screen... And then inside of Windows it would give BSOD for atisomething.exe ntoskrnl.exe and others. I am starting to suspect RAM failure, but then the RAM test that comes on the Ubuntu CD does not reveal any errors.
[06:20] <holycow> i mean boot
[06:20] <arrenlex> !mono | kevogod
[06:20] <ubotu> kevogod: mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[06:20] <holycow> rssn, knoppix has a ram testing thing built into its live cd that you can boot up at start
[06:20] <holycow> there are other tools out there
[06:20] <rssn> holycow: The boot of windows usually proceeds normally, but then, if I were to play audio, watch video, or go online, or get torrents, usually in a combination of any of these together, it would reboot or get BSOD.
[06:20] <holycow> i don't remembe if ubuntu has testing tools
[06:21] <GaiaX11> Kevros: ndis will work for you even if it is not the latest version. Have you tried?
[06:21] <Kevros> If someone has timer, here is a forum thread about what errors we get when trying to install ndiswrapper 1.37 (latest version) on ubuntu 6.10  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1069
[06:21] <Kevros> I have tried when I do the modprobe the kernel locks up and I need to reboot
[06:21] <ubuntu_> would someone point me to the bug channel?
[06:21] <ubuntu_> or virus
[06:21] <Kevros> the people in the ndiswrapper channel told me to use the latest version
[06:22] <geeksauce> bout to restart with nvidia drivers... brb hopefully :D
[06:22] <holycow> ubuntu_, for what exactly?
[06:22] <omeil> can someone tell me how to use wine?
[06:22] <holycow> there are no viruses for linux seen in the wild
[06:22] <kevogod> Use WINE for viruses.
[06:22] <Hatty> lol
[06:22] <turbolover> hey i had previously disabled ipv6 in DD by commenting the ipv6 line out, and now i see several alias-net-pf-10 ipv6 off on there should i comment those out too?
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:22] <ubuntu_> i got a bug on my win computer and i need some help
[06:22] <GaiaX11> Kevros: Do you have the headers also?
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, what do you need to know about wine?
[06:23] <kevogod> (Or Wine if you want to be pedantic)
[06:23] <omeil> i have compiled wine
[06:23] <Hatty> ubuntu_: toss the hdd in the microwave for 30 mins to sanitize it of m$
[06:23] <Kevros> I'm pretty sure it isn't finding the headers for the latest ndiswrapper version, that is why they told me to come here and ask how to install libc
[06:23] <GaiaX11> Kevros: You need ndis, wireless-tools and the headers
[06:23] <omeil> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/omeil/wine-0.9.31/server'
[06:23] <omeil> Wine build complete.
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[06:23] <omeil> i don't know what to do from there
[06:23] <arrenlex> !checkinstall | omeil
[06:23] <ubotu> omeil: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:23] <Kevros> for the v1.22 ndiswrapper that is on the edgy cd?
[06:24] <Kevros> if so how do I install those headers?
[06:24] <GaiaX11> Kevros: and yourcardchipset.inf
[06:24] <omeil> so now i make install?
[06:24] <Kevros> yup, I have an .inf that others have said should work
[06:24] <arrenlex> omeil: Use checkinstall to make a package instead.
[06:24] <turbolover> uhh can anyone here me?
[06:24] <turbolover> hear
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, why don't you just install it from the repositories
[06:24] <arrenlex> omeil: apt-get install checkinstall
[06:24] <arrenlex> omeil: Then sudo checkinstall
[06:24] <GaiaX11> Kevros: And ...
[06:24] <omeil> i can't
[06:24] <ubuntu_> holycow do you know of a bug channel
[06:24] <arrenlex> omeil: ?
[06:25] <GaiaX11> Kevros: did it work?
[06:25] <omeil> i think the package wine is conflicting with my nvidia drivers
[06:25] <arrenlex> omeil: Why do you think that?
[06:25] <Kevros> if I install ndiswrapper v1.22 that is on the ubuntu cd using the package manager along with the tools package when I modprobe it the kernel locks up and I need to reboot
[06:25] <omeil> because i tried installing wine from the add/remove and it tells me something. one sec ill check
[06:25] <turbolover> hmm
[06:25] <geeksauce> nvidia drivers installed successfully!
[06:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Hurrah!
[06:26] <holycow> ubuntu_, there is no bug channel ... what are you having an issue with, we may be able to tell you what to do
[06:26] <GaiaX11> Kevros: have you got the headers?
[06:26] <omeil> Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)
[06:26] <geeksauce> arrenlex, anything special i need to do in order to have beryl running?
[06:26] <holycow> Ubugtu, typically if it actually is a bug you want to file a bug on malone
[06:26] <holycow> !malone
[06:26] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:26] <Hatty> omeil: try sudo apt-get install wine
[06:26] <Kevros> gaia: how do I get the headers?
[06:26] <holycow> devs will respond to you there
[06:26] <holycow> but there is no bug channel
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, are you using ubuntu 64bit?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> omeil,  using the 64bit disrto?
[06:26] <omeil> no
[06:26] <omeil> 32bit
[06:26] <GaiaX11> Kevros: apt-get
[06:26] <arrenlex> ~render | geeksauce
[06:26] <irida> geeksauce: Check your rendering with the command "glxinfo | grep render" and paste the results, please!
[06:26] <kevogod> geeksauce, XGL or AIGLX
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, are you sure?
[06:27] <Kevros> yes, apt-get what?   Sorry I'm still a beginner
[06:27] <ubuntu_> holycow i need to download the update to adaware and update it with out net
[06:27] <gradin> how do you restart the samba service?
[06:27] <holycow> ubuntu_, what does that haveto do with linux?
[06:27] <mikejanssen> what = useful stuff to have on a flashdrive...that is useful for linux
[06:27] <mikejanssen> heh
[06:27] <omeil> how do i check?
[06:27] <stopgo> apt-get and apt-cache segfault on me
[06:27] <arrenlex> omeil: firstly, that is the oddest error message ever, and secondly, wtf does that have to do with nvidia?
[06:27] <rojo^> gradin: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:27] <geeksauce> arrenlex, direct rendering: Yes
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, lol
[06:27] <geeksauce> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 MX 440/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[06:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Hurrah!
[06:28] <arrenlex> !beryl | geeksauce
[06:28] <ubotu> geeksauce: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:28] <omeil> thats what xtknight told me
[06:28] <turbolover> !performance
[06:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: After you add that repository, it's as easy as running apt-get install beryl :)
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about performance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <ubuntu_> holycow the only i can get on the net is with my lamp server so i loaded bitchx to look for a bug channel
[06:28] <holycow> ubuntu_, ah! :) i get it ... well there is no bug channel for that i can tell you now but
[06:28] <l2s> is there an easy way to make ubuntu desktop start but not boot into the gui
[06:28] <omeil> sudo atp-get install wine didn't work
[06:28] <cables> ubuntu_, why do you need adaware on a computer that can't connect to the net?
[06:28] <Hatty> holycow: computercops.com
[06:29] <holycow> Ubugtu, why not use the terminal based browser and download the definitions to your usb drive
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, its APT-GET
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> not atp
[06:29] <holycow> ubuntu_, and then to windows?
[06:29] <GaiaX11> Kevros: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[06:29] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Here, I'll cut to the chase: echo "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install beryl
[06:29] <omeil> yea
[06:29] <omeil> apt-get i mean :)
[06:29] <omeil> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:29] <Hatty> omeil: what did it say?
[06:29] <ubuntu_> cables i got a bug that has disabeld networking and rolled back the update 46 days
[06:29] <arrenlex> !info wine
[06:29] <Superdave132> how long does it usually take for updates to get to the repositories?
[06:29] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[06:29] <cables> !windows | ubuntu_
[06:29] <ubotu> ubuntu_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:29] <arrenlex> omeil: You need universe enabled.
[06:29] <rojo^> l2s: you can change the init symlink for gpm
[06:29] <arrenlex> !universe | omeil
[06:29] <ubotu> omeil: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, thats what it sounds like
[06:30] <Kevros> gaia: that said I have the newest version
[06:30] <arrenlex> !easysource | omeil
[06:30] <ubotu> omeil: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:30] <rojo^> l2s: there's a script that handles init enabling and disabling, but I forget what it is
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> the instructions are right on Wine's homepage on how to enable the wine repository
[06:30] <Talaman> so i put in a bug report on this issue that has been bugging me
[06:30] <Talaman> i certainly hope someone is helpful on there
[06:30] <rojo^> guys, what's the command to disable something in init?
[06:30] <GaiaX11> Kevros: check if you have wireless-tools and the ndis cd rom version installed as well
[06:30] <aryan> hello there i have a myvoice digital voice recorder and when i connect it via usb to my computer while running ubuntu nothing gets detected, can someone please help me out
[06:30] <aryan> hello there i have a myvoice digital voice recorder and when i connect it via usb to my computer while running ubuntu nothing gets detected, can someone please help me out
[06:30] <ubuntu_> cables thats why i am in irc on a lamp server with bitchx
[06:30] <rojo^> aryan: that's annoying
[06:31] <geeksauce> arrenlex, thanks :)  installing now
[06:31] <aryan> rojo: it was an accident
[06:31] <holycow> ubuntu_, there is no such thing as a virus channel on any irc network
[06:31] <holycow> its dumb idea
[06:31] <n3rrd> any one have suggestions for swap partition size on a system with 256mb of RAM?
[06:31] <l2s> howtoforge just died
[06:31] <aryan> hello there i have a myvoice digital voice recorder and when i connect it via usb to my computer while running ubuntu nothing gets detected, can someone please help me out
[06:31] <holycow> ubuntu_, identify what you want to do and just do it ... why waste our time asking about something that doesn't exist?
[06:31] <sohum> I have a dell latitude c600 that I just installed edgy on
[06:31] <sohum> it has a cd drive
[06:31] <sohum> but no internet capapbilities
[06:32] <sohum> how do I get packages on?
[06:32] <turbolover> hey i ont see any processes eating up my cpu but the monitor graph shows it is running at 100%
[06:32] <Hatty> put debs on a cd
[06:32] <turbolover> and its slow
[06:32] <GaiaX11> !enter | sohum
[06:32] <ubotu> sohum: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:32] <cables> sohum, download the .debs you need and put them on some sort of removeable storage
[06:32] <turbolover> the monitor itself spikes sometiems using a lot of cpi though
[06:32] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ok it finished... now what?
[06:32] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Type beryl
[06:32] <aryan> hello there i have a myvoice digital voice recorder and when i connect it via usb to my computer while running ubuntu nothing gets detected, can someone please help me out
[06:33] <holycow> turbolover, turn on 'view all processes'
[06:33] <Taime1> what is the best music manager for ubuntu?
[06:33] <cables> !repeat | aryan
[06:33] <ubotu> aryan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:33] <blackest> n3rrd 1 or 2 gig you will probably add more ram later so if you can afford the space
[06:33] <sohum> GaiaX11 | ubotu: ok, no enters. Hatt | cables : any good tutorials for that?
[06:33] <holycow> turbolover, also enable the cpu column so you can see if you have't
[06:33] <aryan> cables: i dont repeat often
[06:33] <cables> Taime1, it's a matter of opinion
[06:33] <Superdave132> how long will it take to get the forefox 2.002 update on the repositories
[06:33] <FlurrY> Heh, I'm having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop, at my friend's house - I can connect to their network and everything, but internet access doesn't work on my laptop.. any ideas?
[06:33] <aryan> cables: it needs to be said in case someone new comes on
[06:33] <aryan> cables: and i am willing to pay someone to fix this for me
[06:33] <omeil> i don't get what to do with the easy source stuff :(
[06:33] <cables> aryan, there's commercial support for that. This is free community support.
[06:33] <Taime1> lemme rephrase that ....what would YOU say the best music manger is for ubuntu?
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, i just sent you a private message, respond
[06:34] <n3rrd> blackest:  yeah, it's a IBM T21 I just snagged from eBay.  I was going to go with 1Gb but decided to look for other opinions.  Thanks.  :)  PLanning on doubling the RAM (if possible) when I get settled in with it :P
[06:34] <turbolover> ah ha!
[06:34] <aryan> cables: where might this commercial support be?
[06:34] <blackest> flurry mac address filtering maybe
[06:34] <Hatty> Taime1: amarok for playing, juk for organizing
[06:34] <turbolover> atieventsd is the culprit
[06:34] <sohum> Taime1: me? I vote amarok
[06:34] <FlurrY> How would I fix that?
[06:34] <FlurrY> or configure that, or whatever
[06:34] <geeksauce> arrenlex, update manager wants to install two things involving window navigator construction kit.  coincidence or part of beryl?
[06:34] <rojo^> aryan: you could try just creating a mount point, and sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 ./mountpoint
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> !players | Taime1
[06:34] <ubotu> Taime1: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Update manager?
[06:34] <CapaH> I just installed PYSDM for Edgy -- I get this message "Do you wish to configure your harddrive" --- being plenty scared about what "configure" means--- (reformat? heh) -- can someone tell me?  :)
[06:34] <turbolover> !atieventsd
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atieventsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <cables> sohum, go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the .deb files for the package you need, then get that onto a CD or USB drive or something. Then put that into the Ubuntu machine and install the .deb. (double clicking it should work)
[06:35] <turbolover> wonder what would happen if i kill it...
[06:35] <aryan> roji^: i am fairly new to ubuntu what should i type in terminal?
[06:35] <blackest> i think its a question of him configuring his router to allow you on
[06:35] <FlurrY> Hrm
[06:35] <arrenlex> ~repos | omeil
[06:35] <irida> omeil: You can add all edgy repositories at once by issuing the command: echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[06:35] <Taime1> juk in the repositories?
[06:35] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah, kinda like automatic update in windows
[06:35] <turbolover> anyone here use ati card?
[06:35] <FlurrY> Cause I could connect fine when I had windows on this laptop, so I dunno
[06:35] <arrenlex> turbolover: I do. Problems?
[06:35] <geeksauce> arrenlex, or OS X for that matter
[06:35] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Where are you seeing this? Is this part of synaptic?
[06:35] <cables> !ati | turbolover, follow this guide first
[06:35] <ubotu> turbolover, follow this guide first: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:35] <FlurrY> Or would switching to linux make his router not accept my laptop
[06:35] <mikeo1> how do i download a package and all its dependencies
[06:35] <sohum> cables: waht about dependencies? updates the machine needs? any streamlined way to let the machine tell me what it wants and then get them through a cd?
[06:35] <slyfox> Why cant I get maplyer to play quciktime video I have downlaoded? It plays ok via firefox, but not if I download a quick tiem video - what codecs do  I choose in mplayer to play quic time ?
[06:36] <turbolover> arrenlex: yeah, atieventsd process is eating up all my cpu and slowing my machine down, i think this happened after i got some updates from ubuntu
[06:36] <rojo^> aryan: cd /media, sudo mkdir recorder, sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 recorder/
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, respond to the message i sent you
[06:36] <blackest> turbolover yes use the radeon drivers :)
[06:36] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | slyfox
[06:36] <ubotu> slyfox: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:36] <cables> sohum, you'll need to do it manually. And most updates are security updates, which you really won't need if you're not net connected.
[06:36] <arrenlex> ~w32codecs | slyfox
[06:36] <irida> slyfox: w32codecs available at: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[06:36] <Hatty> sohum: Get a network card
[06:36] <sohum> Hatty: I wish I could...
[06:36] <GaiaX11> FlurrY: Is that a win router?
[06:36] <Hatty> sohum: why cant you?
[06:36] <FlurrY> A win router?
[06:36] <mikeo1> how do i download a package and all its dependencies for a installation from a cd or usb flash
[06:36] <rojo^> aryan: if that doesn't work, then your recorder doesn't have a mountable filesystem without installation of some driver.  it'll probably be proprietary (windows only)
[06:36] <arrenlex> turbolover: Never heard of atieventsd, sorry.
[06:36] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i believe so.  an icon comes up in the tray when updates are available.
[06:36] <GaiaX11> FlurrY: :-)
[06:36] <aryan> rojo^:bash: cd: /media,: No such file or directory
[06:36] <FlurrY> Huh? lol
[06:36] <cables> FlurrY, routers don't care what OS you use...
[06:37] <sohum> oh, btw, does anyone here know what the weird ports on the old Xircom cards for ethernet are? the slimline ones?
[06:37] <FlurrY> I know that
[06:37] <jmazaredo> is there no problem if i install a package from debian
[06:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Oh, it's probably part of some gui package manager, then. Install 'em. I've never heard of such packages so I don't know what they're part of.
[06:37] <rojo^> aryan: hmmm.  try in /tmp then.  cd /tmp, mkdir recorder, et cetera...
[06:37] <mikeo1> how do i download a package and all its dependencies for a installation from a cd or usb flash
[06:37] <FlurrY> Someone seemed to be suggesting that
[06:37] <FlurrY> and I was asking about it :P
[06:37] <cables> FlurrY, what's the question then?
[06:37] <mikeo1> if a download a single package through the website with packages it doesnt download all the dependencies
[06:37] <turbolover> isnt fglrx the radeon driver? thats what i use
[06:38] <FlurrY> I just can't get internet access on my laptop which is connected to the router.. the other computers in the network can access the internet, I can access those computers' shared folders..
[06:38] <FlurrY> But :
[06:38] <mikeo1> is there an easy way to dl a package and all its deps for ubuntu server
[06:38] <FlurrY> :\
[06:38] <cables> mikeo1, no.
[06:38] <CapaH> "dev/sda1 hasn't been configured. Do you want to configure it now?" -- I am getting this in pysdm --- is it safe to "configure" this harddrive? What does "configure" mean -- does anyone know?
[06:38] <ardchoille> mikeo1: That's why we have package managers.
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, are you still there?
[06:38] <arrenlex> turbolover: Yeah.
[06:38] <cables> mikeo1, if you're not using the repos, you'll have to do it manually.
[06:38] <blackest> turbolover there are 3 possibles
[06:38] <aryan> rojo^:media, sudo mkdir recorder, sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 recorder/
[06:38] <cables> mikeo1, sorry, i mean package manager, not repos
[06:38] <omeil> indygunfreak: yeah
[06:38] <geeksauce> arrenlex, uh, where did my minimize, restore, close buttons and titlebars go?
[06:38] <aryan> rojo^:bash: cd: /tmp,: No such file or directory
[06:38] <arrenlex> geeksauce: They disappeared? That's not good.
[06:38] <rojo^> aryan: what about /var?
[06:38] <turbolover> blackesT: it used to work fine i was slow and then properly installed and configured drivers then got a control panel update and after that its been slow
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> i sent you a private message, to much traffic here to try and explain this
[06:39] <bula> hi, i am a windows user that wants to get ubuntu.  i read that i should come here for help.  i tried the desktop cd that let me test it but i have lots of questions.   any help =/
[06:39] <FlurrY> It works on the router at home, and this did work when I had windows, so I dunnno
[06:39] <cables> bula, sure, ask away.
[06:39] <aryan> rojo^: if it is not too much trouble can you give me the full command again
[06:39] <omeil> indygunfreak: i did respond to your message tho
[06:39] <mikeo1> is there a way to do it with a package manager?
[06:39] <elpargo> anyone here has freeciv?
[06:39] <FlurrY> I'm just thinking I have to reconfigure something, but I don't know what
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i didn't see anything
[06:39] <holycow> bula, welcome, your in the right place.
[06:39] <holycow> ask
[06:39] <slyfox> arrenlex: irida: which specific w32codec? I laready have soemthing installed - Win32/VfWev and Win32/VfW    neitehr one works
[06:39] <rojo^> aryan: you aren't including the commas in the commands are you?  that tends to make a slight difference.  -_-
[06:39] <omeil> ill try again
[06:39] <blackest> let me find you the link for my 9550 radeon the radeon driver was fastest and most compatible
[06:39] <turbolover> 9200 se here
[06:39] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hold on one thing messed up when i typed beryl.  i'll pastebin
[06:39] <omeil> can u see anything i sent u a pm?
[06:40] <arrenlex> slyfox: The package that irida linked is all you need to install.
[06:40] <aryan> rojo^: type me the command just the way it is supposed to be written so i can copy and paste
[06:40] <GaiaX11> !ubuntu| bula
[06:40] <ubotu> bula: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:40] <cables> bula, still here? Ask us anything you want...
[06:40] <blackest> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%28radeon%29
[06:41] <FlurrY> Heh..
[06:41] <MybEvil_> would I be able to play FFXI on ubuntu?
[06:41] <slyfox> arrenlex: ok, let me try
[06:41] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7324/
[06:41] <rojo^> aryan: 3 commands.  Each command is separated by a comma.  This one line is meant to be typed with two "enter" keypresses among.  Wherever you see a comma, treat it as a carriage return.
[06:41] <omeil> weird
[06:41] <omeil> i can see your speak indy but u can't see me
[06:41] <rojo^> aryan: cd /media, sudo mkdir recorder, mount -t auto /dev/sda1 recorder/
[06:41] <GaiaX11> !games| MybEvil_
[06:41] <ubotu> MybEvil_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:41] <aryan> rojo^: ok
[06:41] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, i have no logical explanation for that one..
[06:42] <sohum> could I use, say, aptitude, to downlaod a package *and all it's dependencies*?
[06:42] <turbolover> so with the open source driver i will be all snazzy and fast?
[06:42] <omeil> i am using X-chat GNOME
[06:42] <omeil> 1.13
[06:42] <bula> ah man
[06:42] <omeil> 0.13 i mean
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> well, i'm using 2.6. something
[06:42] <turbolover> i think i originally specified ati or radeon and was slow, then went fglrx all was good then update wham slow again
[06:42] <bula> i have been asking questions and just foudn out that PMs are blocked lol
[06:42] <shriphani> would dumping a shell script in init.d cause fluxbox to run it at startup ?
[06:42] <FlurrY> Hmmmm..
[06:42] <bula> no wonder u guys didnt respond to me lol
[06:42] <cables> bula, you should ask in the channel.
[06:42] <kelsin> bula: just ask in the channel, no reason to limit yourself to one person
[06:42] <aryan> rojo^:bash: cd: /tmp,: No such file or directory
[06:42] <bula> i dont wanna look too silly =/
[06:42] <cables> bula, come on...
[06:43] <Pko> THIS IS A VIRUS
[06:43] <Pko> THIS IS A VIRUS
[06:43] <Pko> THIS IS A VIRUS
[06:43] <Pko> THIS IS A VIRUS
[06:43] <Pko> THIS IS A VIRUS
[06:43] <Pko> THIS IS A VIRUS
[06:43] <rojo^> aryan: quit fucking typing commas in your commands!  Jeez!
[06:43] <FlurrY> haha
[06:43] <cables> !ops
[06:43] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:43] <bula> ok. my first question may sound super silly.  but i was wondering if there is a good reason to switch to ubuntu.  i have windows and it seems boring compared to videos i have seen of what people have done with ubuntu and other things like xgl
[06:43] <aryan> rojo^:mount: only root can do that
[06:43] <aryan> rojo^:sorry i had pasted the wrong thing calm down, it says mount: only root can do that
[06:43] <arrenlex> Oh gasp. A virus.
[06:43] <kelsin> bula: looks like you found a reason for yourself
[06:43] <arrenlex> wtf aren't the ops responding today?
[06:43] <max_> Hey guys -  I need a pretty simple and logical feature.  I text box that resides on my desktop which i can type notes.   I should be sizable and affixed to my desktop.   I am familiar with gdesklets, adesklets, and superkaramba, but i havent found a desklet that will provide this simple and small feature.
[06:43] <omeil> IndyGunFreak: i can't install X-chat because it does the same thing as WINE
[06:43] <max_> Like just a place i can click on my desktop which i can type stuff and automagically saves
[06:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: That would be your problem... a quick google seems to indicate a newer nvidia driver fixes this problem.
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, ok, hang on
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: b/c they keep quiting.  I'm adding every one of them to my hilights list.
[06:44] <FlurrY> Any more help for my problem?
[06:44] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Ah, is that how it works. Okay.
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> omeil, do y9ou have access to yahoo or AIM by chance through gaim or kopete?
[06:44] <geeksauce> arrenlex, what did you google?
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: *shrug* is for the moment - not really a policy thing.
[06:44] <aryan> rojo^:mount: only root can do that
[06:44] <omeil> yahoo yea
[06:44] <cables> bula, it's pretty hard to get Beryl (the cool effects) working in Ubuntu right now, at least in my experience. It's pretty buggy. However, Ubuntu, even without the cool effects, is really awesome compared to windows. If you want some examples, I can tell you some.
[06:44] <aryan> rojo^: so what now?
[06:44] <GaiaX11> sohum: aptitude --help
[06:44] <kelsin> bula: if you need more reasons: the price, the security, the custimizability, the freedom, choices, ease of use, etc (My cousin just installed ubuntu and windows and windows didn't recognize his ethernet driver... funny)
[06:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: your error: Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap        : failed
[06:44] <bula> is it super hard to set up ubuntu and stuff?   like lots of the drivers and programs that i use everyday are mainly for windows right?  example ventrilo, world of warcraft and some other things.
[06:44] <omeil> IndyGunFreak: my yahoo is olidude007
[06:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: This seemed helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2140112
[06:44] <cables> bula, it's way easier than windows to set up.
[06:45] <kelsin> bula: world of warcraft is EASY espically if you have a good video card
[06:45] <cables> bula, the only problem right now is drivers, and if the liveCD tested out fine, you'll be ok.
[06:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: You could try installing nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, which will be newer, but it's more of a hassle.
[06:45] <kelsin> bula: the lastest versions of wine run WoW right out of the box (it's not native, but runs great for me)
[06:45] <cables> bula, you'll want to install graphics drivers though.
[06:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Linux is like that with hardware support = /
[06:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I think the !nvidia guide tells you how.
[06:45] <bula> well all i did on the cd was get on like aim and firefox.  i have a junky geforce 6800 non ultra and integrated sound and ethernet on my lanparty ut 250 thingy
[06:46] <kelsin> bula: I've read that ventrillo works great in linux, but I have not tried, might want to wait till you have a week or two in case something goes wrong and you can't raid :)
[06:46] <max_> bula if you really want to compare windows to linux - try benchmark tests.   i get 50% more internet bandwith using linux....and as far as hard disk read/write - you can easily double the speed of your computer by usting linux
[06:46] <turbolover> i have noticed with wine all the fonts look funky, also crashes when i try to connect to a game in defcon
[06:46] <turbolover> unreadably funky
[06:46] <mikeo1> how can i mirror certain packages to a cd
[06:46] <FlurrY> Hmm, any other channel where I mighjt be able to get help with networking and such?
[06:46] <cables> bula, setting up Ubuntu is actually way easier than setting up windows from scratch. As long as your sound and wireless and stuff works, you'll just need to install graphics card drivers.
[06:46] <max_> bula : approx 70% of all new 3D games work on linux
[06:46] <mikeo1> or mirror a repo to a cd
[06:46] <kelsin> bula: nvidia cards work great in linux, I play war3, wow, ut2004 (native) and quake 3(native) and all run great
[06:46] <arrenlex> turbolover: For your fonts, apt-get install fontforge
[06:46] <cables> max_, where do you get that from?
[06:46] <arrenlex> turbolover: As for the crash, wine's support for windows applications is spotty...
[06:46] <max_> 100% of all applications can run on unix - but you may have to use a virtual machine
[06:47] <mikeo1> need to get this working for a big event tomorrowww
[06:47] <ardchoille> mikeo1: Are you trying to install something from the repos?
[06:47] <max_> cables : my benchmark test?
[06:47] <aryan> rojo^: dude reply
[06:47] <arrenlex> max_: Coincidentally, approximately 70% of your statistics are made up!
[06:47] <turbolover> already have that
[06:47] <geeksauce> !nvidia
[06:47] <max_> there are various utilities you can use to test the speed of your system
[06:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <mikeo1> so i have a ubuntu server box with no internet
[06:47] <cables> max_, your 70% of games working
[06:47] <GaiaX11> bula: Adding  to all of that you will know what really a computer is and what it can do for you at its most :-)
[06:47] <maxx18> hey can anybody tell me why i'm getting this error when i try to reload packages in synaptic? (http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1))
[06:47] <mikeo1> the only way to install stuff is through copying files...
[06:47] <bula> well all i use this machine for is gaming and school.  i have 2 other machines that i can transfer important documents over to.  so i guess ill try to install it all tomorrow.   any tips?
[06:47] <mikeo1> i need to copy certain packages and all their dependencies to an ftp
[06:47] <max_> cables : using winex, cedega, wine, etc, you can easily run 70%+ of all windows games
[06:47] <cables> bula, not really... just back up your important stuff, and think out your partitioning well.
[06:47] <mikeo1> and create a local repo
[06:48] <turbolover> eh lemme just send you a screenshot
[06:48] <mikeo1> how do i select packages, then download them and their dependencies
[06:48] <mikeo1> to a dir to be copied to another location
[06:48] <ardchoille> mikeo1: I have to ask this.. what is the point of a server that has no network connection?
[06:48] <FlurrY> Hrm
[06:48] <kelsin> bula: for game's you'll want to get the newest wine, esp for WoW so after you get it installed make sure you add the newest wine repositories and get the latest wine, come here for help when you get to that point especially
[06:48] <max_> statistically, using DOSBOX (which works better than MS-DOS) you can run 100% of all DOS applications, including WIN32s
[06:48] <bula> think out my partitioning?   i dont just delete my current partition and then install fresh or something?
[06:48] <turbolover> arrenlex: you in lexington?
[06:48] <mikeo1> it has a network connection, but it is not connected to the internet
[06:48] <HymnToLife> mikeo1, -d switch in apt-get will only download packages - i.e. not install tham
[06:48] <bula> ok.  wine is just like windows emulation or something right?
[06:48] <kelsin> yes
[06:48] <max_> CABLES : 70% or more of the windows games i play - work in linux
[06:48] <cables> bula, ubuntu's installer will let you resize your existing windows partition to create a new one for linux.
[06:49] <kelsin> for any opengl games it works very well
[06:49] <HymnToLife> you can then go to your apt cache and copy them
[06:49] <terapicodave> how can parted show a partition but mount refuses to mount it? I have a server that can talk to a drive but no mount it...any ideas?
[06:49] <cables> max_, alright... clearly I'm doing something wrong.
[06:49] <mikeo1> and it will dl the dependencies too?
[06:49] <HymnToLife> yes
[06:49] <arrenlex> turbolover: No?
[06:49] <turbolover> cables: but it can mess it up
[06:49] <arrenlex> turbolover: Should I be?
[06:49] <HymnToLife> just as a normal apt-get would do
[06:49] <mikeo1> ok thanks
[06:49] <bula> wait so i shouldnt delete my windows partition before i install ubuntu?
[06:49] <turbolover> arrenlex: dunno saw the lex and thought that
[06:49] <cables> bula, if you have some weird partitions on their already (like on most Dell computers) you may need to do it manually. In any case, back up first.
[06:49] <geeksauce> arrenlex, looks like a reboot might solve this according to the troubleshooting page.  i already have the proper drivers installed i think, as my video card was specifically listed (it's not a legacy card either)
[06:49] <cables> bula, they can both be on there at the same time.
[06:50] <geeksauce> arrenlex, brb and we'll find out :P
[06:50] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Reboot on Linux doesn't typically help things, but you can always try.
[06:50] <turbolover> arrenlex mind if i dcc you a screenshot of my problem? i got a good font in but the font in say wine file is practically unreadable
[06:50] <GaiaX11> bula: As much as you use win as much as computer ignorant you become. Because everything is hidden from you there. But, everything is open her. :-)  :-)
[06:50] <cables> bula, Ubuntu should detect Windows when you install, and let you allocate disk space for each OS. Then when you boot, you can select whether you want to boot windows or linux.
[06:50] <turbolover> arrenlex: i have font forge already
[06:50] <GaiaX11> bula: As much as you use win as much as computer ignorant you become. Because everything is hidden from you there. But, everything is open here. :-)  :-)
[06:51] <arrenlex> turbolover: Aight.
[06:51] <bula> ok awesome.  so how would u sugguest that i partition my HD?   just half it?
[06:51] <arrenlex> turbolover: Where'd you get wine?
[06:51] <cables> bula, your choice
[06:51] <turbolover> uhh i think just throught he download thing but possible from the wine website
[06:51] <turbolover> cant remember now
[06:51] <mikejanssen> i installed wine last night
[06:51] <arrenlex> turbolover: Did you compile from source?
[06:51] <mikeo1> so if i install ubuntu server on one machine with the internet, can i apt-get upgrade all the packages, with the -d flag to dl all that have been updated?
[06:51] <cables> bula, if it doesn't let you automatically choose a percentage for each OS, you'll have to do it manually. In that case, you should probably come here for help.
[06:51] <mikejanssen> i just cant get anything to work
[06:51] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:51] <arrenlex> I installed your mom last night!
[06:51] <turbolover> cant remember
[06:51] <arrenlex> ...sorry, that was just a perfect set up
[06:51] <arrenlex> turbolover: You have to compile wine with fontforge installed IIRC.
[06:52] <GaiaX11> bula: everything for linux. No need fo win :-)
[06:52] <bula> about how long does it take to reformat?
[06:52] <arrenlex> turbolover: Or just use it from the repos.
[06:52] <bula> well thats what i want at some point.  i want to just get rid of windows like you said.  all linux
[06:52] <cables> bula, my install took 20 minutes.. but my hd is tiny.
[06:52] <GaiaX11> bula: less than 1 minute
[06:52] <bula> i have 80GB SATA
[06:52] <kelsin> bula: if you do play some directX games a lot, it might be a problem :) but I made the switch a while ago and love it
[06:53] <cables> bula, that's the full install though, not just the format. The install is WAY faster than Windows.
[06:53] <cables> bula, it really shouldn't take long.
[06:53] <bula> ok
[06:53] <bula> so let me get this right
[06:53] <slyfox> arrenlex: I keep on getting this eror even after I isntalled w32 codecs:  Error opening/initializig the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[06:53] <bula> i should use ubuntu for things and get used to it.  but if i have trouble i can still reboot to windows and do what i need then go back to the learning process by rebooting again?
[06:53] <GaiaX11> bula: stick the cd in, follow the steps and you are there :-)
[06:53] <arrenlex> slyfox: That's not w32codecs, your mplayer is set up incorrectly. Are you using it from the command line or the GUI?
[06:53] <cables> bula, yep.
[06:54] <slyfox> arrenlex: gui
[06:54] <GaiaX11> bula: get yourself free! :-)
[06:54] <arrenlex> slyfox: Go into whatever options there are and select xv as the video output driver.
[06:54] <cables> bula, if the installer forces you to manually edit your partition table, come back here for more help. You don't want to accidentally delete Windows, which will be your safety net in case something goes wrong.
[06:54] <turbolover> yep installed it from the package manager, i suppose i should uninstall it and compile it for myself, but first fix my ati issue
[06:54] <ardchoille> slyfox: mplayer or xine or other?
[06:54] <slyfox> ardchoille: mplayer
[06:54] <bula> ok.  i build my computer a while ago so ill see what i can remeber about it.  its amd athlon 64 3400+ 2GB pc3200 ram, and geforce 6800.  so i need to get the amd64 ubuntu and thats all right?
[06:55] <geeksauce> arrenlex, well, that fixed the no titlebar problem, but it's all skippy when it minimizes and does the little genie effect :-\
[06:55] <GaiaX11> guys, clap your hands for bula. Say to him welcome to Linux/Ubuntu community. yeah :-)
[06:55] <Kevros> so I'm still trying to work out my ndiswrapper problems, giri at ndiswrapper told me to make sure that 4k stacks are disabled, but I am not sure where the CONFIG_4KSTACKS option is located
[06:55] <cables> bula, you'll need to get the nvidia driver. come back here when you've got ubuntu intstalled and ask someone for help with that.
[06:55] <bula> ok
[06:55] <bula> well
[06:55] <bula> here goes nothing
[06:55] <bula> ima try to do it fast
[06:55] <ardchoille> slyfox: Right click mplayer window, choose Preferences, go to the video tab and choose another driver.
[06:55] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Is it? And glxinfo | grep render still say the same thing it did before?
[06:56] <bula> and thank you all for the help.  this is like amazing how helpful you guys are
[06:56] <ardchoille> slyfox: I would suggest xv
[06:56] <turbolover> wonder if XP will let me install to a slave drive, would rather just keep windows whole on a seperate hd
[06:56] <turbolover> i nuked my existing xp installing ubuntu
[06:56] <bula> eek
[06:56] <bula> there goes my confidence
[06:56] <woodwizzle> Does fiesty use xorg 7.2?
[06:56] <bula> right as im bout to switch lol
[06:56] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yep
[06:56] <cables> bula, like i said, back up... but it really doesn't happen often.
[06:57] <cables> turbolover, great time to say that :)
[06:57] <turbolover> bula: i made the mistake of altering my partition tables twice.. thats what did it, usually only once and its okay
[06:57] <slyfox> ardchoille: arrenlex: now there is no more error, just mplayer loads and that is it, it does not play the video file
[06:57] <bula> well ima try it anyway.  if i screw up i can always redo windows and come back here for help to do it again =] 
[06:57] <GaiaX11> turbolover: format it and get rid of XP!
[06:57] <turbolover> i did
[06:57] <ardchoille> slyfox: You have to use the menus or the gui to play a file
[06:57] <turbolover> and i like ubuntu but i like some o fthe stuff i had in windows, like civilization 4 which qould require cedega to run which i dont care about paying for
[06:58] <cables> I only use windows for gaming now
[06:58] <bula> k well thank you all.   i will hopefully be on either later tonight or tomorrow after work.   you guys have no idea how much you helped me
[06:58] <kelsin> turbolover: yeah I was lucky and ONLY play games that are either blizzard or native
[06:58] <arrenlex> slyfox: Run mplayer from the command line and pastebin all the output
[06:58] <kelsin> turbolover: and luckily blizzard games all run in opengl modes
[06:58] <ubunt1> !cdemulate
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemulate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <turbolover> i heard vista has nuked opengl support
[06:58] <GaiaX11> cables: I don't like games. So, no need of win :-)
[06:58] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I don't know. My only suggestion is to try the newer drivers... sorry. = /
[06:58] <turbolover> vmware is funky too
[06:58] <ubunt1> is the some program like daemon tools
[06:58] <cables> GaiaX11, I really don't either... just MS Flight Sim :)
[06:58] <Nate57> hey i'm a noob looking for someone to answer a question
[06:58] <arrenlex> !ask | Nate57
[06:58] <ubotu> Nate57: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:58] <cables> !ask | Nate57
[06:59] <Kevros> Can anyone help me find where the "CONFIG_4KSTACKS" option is?
[06:59] <cables> arrenlex, I admit my defeat
[06:59] <ubunt1> !boson
[06:59] <ubotu> boson: an OpenGL wargame for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-4 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB (Only available for alpha arm armeb i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc ia64 hppa s390 sh3 sh4 sh3eb sh4eb freebsd-i386)
[06:59] <Nate57> i used ndiswrapper to install a wireless card driver but now i can't connect to my network
[06:59] <geeksauce> arrenlex, how do i go about installing newer drivers?  i didn't see anything on that page about there being newer drivers than the ones i got, but maybe i missed something
[06:59] <slyfox> arrenlex: ardchoille: I think the movie is file is a broken downlaod as mplayer plays fine the other video. Also I slected ffmpeg for audio codec - is that ok or soemthing else ?
[06:59] <GaiaX11> geeksauce: ndiswrapper -l
[07:00] <kelsin> Vista was going to completely force openGL through directx, luckily they dropped that idea (performance was god awful) but I've still heard vista sucks for games right now due to bad drivers
[07:00] <ardchoille> slyfox: Well, if the video file is corrupted..
[07:00] <geeksauce> GaiaX11, huh?
[07:00] <ubunt1> kelsin and UBuntu too suck
[07:00] <ubunt1> i was UBuntu installed on VMware
[07:00] <GaiaX11> Kevros: ndiswrapper -l
[07:01] <ubunt1> and it was ok,but now i installed it in the hdd
[07:01] <ubunt1> and i have problem
[07:01] <arrenlex> slyfox: ffmpeg isn't an audio codec. Go with -ao alsa
[07:01] <slyfox> ardchoille: I mean in general, what should I set for the audio codec ?
[07:01] <cables> !enter | ubunt1
[07:01] <ubotu> ubunt1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:01] <slyfox> arrenlex: ok
[07:01] <ardchoille> slyfox: I don't know, I don't use sound on my systems at all.
[07:01] <ubunt1> now the first was too boson this game,give compile error and in the web page they have error commands
[07:02] <Kevros> GaiaX11:  That gives me a driver installed, hardware present.  The ndiswrapper people told me to check what my "CONFIG_4KSTACKS" option was set to
[07:02] <ubunt1> and this mean that peoples make programs and then leave me with error.
[07:02] <arrenlex> !nvidia-beta | geeksauce
[07:02] <ubotu> geeksauce: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[07:02] <cisforcojo> anyone know how to change the ubuntu/kubuntu booting screen with the progress bar?
[07:02] <Kevros> GaiaX11: Still no idea how to find that option
[07:02] <cisforcojo> i installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, didn't like it and removed it, but it still says Kubuntu when loading
[07:02] <woodwizzle> how can I upgrade to fiesty if I'm running edgy
[07:02] <ubunt1> geeksauce don't install it
[07:02] <arrenlex> ubunt1: Why?
[07:02] <Alley^Away> hi, I've downloaded ubuntu 6.10 but... all my burn programs claim the image is too large for a cd
[07:02] <ubunt1> geeksauce: i install linux-restricted
[07:02] <ubunt1> arrenlex i install it and it give me error
[07:02] <arrenlex> ubunt1: We've been through that. Beryl doesn't perform well.
[07:03] <TJ_> does anybody know how to mute the pc speaker on a laptop? or how to allow for it to turn off when headphones are plugged in?
[07:03] <slyfox> arrenlex: I have a lot of choice but nothing like "-ao alsa"
[07:03] <ubunt1> arrenlex it perfom it
[07:03] <arrenlex> slyfox: alsa
[07:03] <corevette> any pros/cons about ubuntu ultimate before i download??
[07:03] <ubunt1> arrenlex why don't you use linux-restricted it work good there.
[07:03] <arrenlex> corevette: Yeah, there's aero, and you can run it in a virtual mach... oh, wait.
[07:03] <arrenlex> ubunt1: I just told you why.
[07:03] <cfedde> TJ_: most of the time the speekers turn off when the headphone is in.  A mechanical switch.  Sounds like your lappy has a special feature.
[07:04] <Alley^Away> nero says '710 mb, 702 available on disc' - how to get around it? Or read the topic links?
[07:04] <ubunt1> arrenlex why for what
[07:04] <corevette> arrenlex.....wast that....to me?
[07:04] <Nate57> does anyone know what I did wrong with ndiswrapper?  I installed the driver, got the whole "driver installed, hardware present" thing, went to the network config screen, entered the name of my network and the network key, and connection is at 0%
[07:04] <arrenlex> (23:02:58) arrenlex: ubunt1: We've been through that. Beryl doesn't perform well.
[07:04] <tony__> hello
[07:04] <GaiaX11> Kevros: CONFIG_4KSTACKS= http://consultoriatecnica.visaonet.com.br/tiki/tiki-print.php?page=Como%20instalar%20o%20adaptador%20wireless%20D-Link%20G510%20no%20Gentoo%20Linux
[07:04] <arrenlex> corevette: Yep. It was an attempt at a joke.
[07:04] <ubunt1> arrenlex then why you put the bin file for nvidia.
[07:04] <TJ_> cfedde: everything seems to work fine in windows, thats whats confusing me
[07:04] <cisforcojo> anyone? about the bootup? i'm sure it's a simple fix. just dont' know how to fix it
[07:04] <tony__> i am having a problem with my sound card. any one here can help me?
[07:04] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Ignore ubunt1. How are you doing?
[07:04] <ubunt1> arrenlex or you want the user kill the UBUntu
[07:05] <cables> tony__, can you be more specific?
[07:05] <cables> !sound | tony__, see if this helps
[07:05] <ubotu> tony__, see if this helps: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:05] <corevette> arrenlex...but really do you have any opinions about it?
[07:05] <corevette> any pros/cons about ubuntu ultimate before i download??
[07:05] <geeksauce> arrenlex, it was just some settings i had to tweak.  it's working real smoothly now :D
[07:05] <ubunt1> arrenlex why he need to ignore me.I install it and do you know what happend
[07:05] <arrenlex> corevette: Never heard of ubuntu ultimate. What's what?
[07:05] <slyfox> arrenlex: wait I was look at the codecs & demuxer section all this time. What do I set in tehre ?
[07:05] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Really? Good to hear! What was it?
[07:05] <tony__> yeah, i'm getting no sound. i used to be only have one application with sound. but i was messing around and now i got nothing. alsamixer will not open
[07:05] <corevette> arrenlex....google it
[07:05] <tony__> any other info you need?
[07:05] <GaiaX11> Kevros: Recent 2.6 kernels have an option to choose either 4KB or 8KB stack size. Make sure your kernel is configured for 8KB stacks by disabling, CONFIG_4KSTACKS option. Some Windows drivers (as of now, only Intel Centrino drivers) need 16KB stacks. To enable 16KB stacks, you need to patch kernel with 16KB stack patch available from [2]  under 'patches page'. If the kernel is compiled with smaller size stack than needed by Windows driver, it will cause k
[07:05] <GaiaX11> ernel crash.
[07:06] <ubunt1> geeksauce don't install it.
[07:06] <Myrtti> I'm having problems installing dapper: doing it with a kickstart file and every time the installation halts on not detecting keyboard. here's some error log: http://demokioski.dy.fi/hardware-summary
[07:06] <woodwizzle> how can I upgrade to fiesty if I'm running edgy
[07:06] <GaiaX11> Kevros: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/FAQ
[07:06] <arrenlex> corevette: Hurrah! An ubuntu with even MORE useless crap installed by default! Just what we need!
[07:06] <tony__> cables i dont understand the command !sound.   typed that into command line?
[07:07] <geeksauce> arrenlex, it was the time allotted for the window to minimize/unminimize.  it was so short i was causing it to skip
[07:07] <cables> tony__, that was to tell Ubotu to send you info.
[07:07] <cables> !ubotu
[07:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:07] <slyfox> arrenlex: wait I was look at the codecs & demuxer section all this time. What do I set in tehre ?
[07:07] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Ah. Well, I'm glad it works now! Enjoy ubuntu. :)
[07:07] <geeksauce> arrenlex, is ubuntl a bot or something?
[07:07] <arrenlex> slyfox: What?
[07:07] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ubotu? Or ubunt1?
[07:07] <geeksauce> arrenlex, the latter
[07:07] <slyfox> arrenlex: What do I do about this error? Reuqested audi codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not availabel. Enable it at compilation
[07:07] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ubotu is the most useful bot in the world. ubunt1 is a troll.
[07:08] <HymnToLife> arrenlex, dpkg > ubotu
[07:08] <geeksauce> arrenlex, trolls are allowed here?
[07:08] <Myrtti> hell0
[07:08] <zoli2k> woodwizzle: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file, replace all "edgy" word with "feisty", then apt-get update , and apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:08] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Trolls are allowed until they get so stupid they can't pass as well-meaning newbies anymore.
[07:09] <arrenlex> slyfox: Did you get mplayer from the ubuntu repositories? If so, it appears that mp3lib was not compiled in it. Choose another codec for mp3 decoding, like libmad. I have no idea what the screen looks like; never used the mplayer gui.
[07:09] <Nate57> am I passing as a well-meaning newbie?
[07:09] <GaiaX11> slyfox: do you get sound with amarok? Normally it try to automatically download the codecs
[07:09] <woodwizzle> zoli2k thanks
[07:09] <arrenlex> Nate57: I dunno. What are you saying?
[07:09] <slyfox> GaiaX11: I do
[07:10] <GaiaX11> slyfox: So, what do you want?
[07:10] <AlleyKat> :( I'm just trying to become a newbie
[07:10] <Demolitio> having troubles getting my hauppage tv tuner to work.... installed the itv drivers, tested the device in mplayer and it captured video quite nicely.... but i cant get it to work in kdetv, xine, or even tvtime. in tvtime it crash-restarts my computer. help anyone?
[07:10] <geeksauce> arrenlex, haha i see
[07:10] <Nate57> well i was asking a question about my wireless card.  I installed the driver with ndiswrapper and set it up according to a tutorial i found on the ubuntu wiki, and now I get 0% connection
[07:10] <slyfox> GaiaX11: I want mplay to function without giving me this error all the time: Reuqested audi codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not availabel. Enable it at compilation
[07:11] <the-king> hey guys
[07:11] <GaiaX11> slyfox: how did you install mplayer?
[07:11] <arrenlex> Nate57: Your best bet for debugging is probably the ubuntu forums, but if your card isn't supported by ndiswrapper, you're probably out of luck with running it on ubuntu, unfortunately.
[07:11] <slyfox> GaiaX11: through package manager
[07:11] <GaiaX11> slyfox: with apt-get?
[07:11] <the-king> how would I change my kernel to 2.6.8-2-386?
[07:11] <arrenlex> Nate57: Try looking for it on the hardware list
[07:11] <AlleyKat> (is it even ok for me to ask again?)
[07:11] <arrenlex> !hardware|Nate57
[07:11] <ubotu> Nate57: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:11] <slyfox> giangy: gui package manger
[07:11] <slyfox> GaiaX11:  gui package manger
[07:11] <arrenlex> the-king: You wouldn't. Use -generic.
[07:12] <the-king> what do you mean?
[07:12] <Demolitio> having troubles getting my hauppage tv tuner to work.... installed the itv drivers, tested the device in mplayer and it captured video quite nicely.... but i cant get it to work in kdetv, xine, or even tvtime. in tvtime it crash-restarts my computer, and on all other players the device cannot be found. help anyone? :(
[07:12] <gradin> damit how to you extract a *.tgz file again?
[07:12] <the-king> I need a driver for a winmodem
[07:12] <arrenlex> the-king: The -386 kernels are obsolete and used as a fallback. For a standard computer, you want the -generic kernel instead.
[07:12] <GaiaX11> slyfox: purge it and install again to see what happens
[07:12] <Nate57> arrenlex: the funny thing is that I found a script somebody wrote that is supposed to install the exact card I have
[07:12] <the-king> dang
[07:12] <BelialMkII> what are source packages called in ubuntu, like fedora called them foo-devel
[07:12] <arrenlex> BelialMkII: foo-dev
[07:12] <Nate57> but it didn't work
[07:12] <BelialMkII> thanks arrenlex
[07:13] <gradin> i mean i know tar i just can't remember the flag syntax
[07:13] <scv> ubotu,
[07:13] <GaiaX11> slyfox: But first, remove .mplayer from your home
[07:13] <GaiaX11> slyfox: sudo rm -fr .mplayer
[07:13] <slyfox> GaiaX11: ok, let me see
[07:13] <scv> ubotu, are you smarter than dpkg?
[07:13] <bula> hey im back w/ more silly questions.  i cant find the download for the ubuntu for amd athlon 64.  i keep following different links and end up coming across the desktop cd image that i burned earlier today to just test it.
[07:14] <Demolitio> having troubles getting my hauppage tv tuner to work.... installed the itv drivers, tested the device in mplayer and it captured video quite nicely.... but i cant get it to work in kdetv, xine, or even tvtime. in tvtime it crash-restarts my computer, and on all other players the device cannot be found. help anyone? :(
[07:14] <slyfox> GaiaX11: what does -fr mean ?
[07:14] <AlleyKat> I've downloaded ubuntu 6.10 but... all my burn programs claim the image is too large for a cd have I got something invalid perhaps? Should I d/l again?
[07:14] <geeksauce> arrenlex, one more question... are there any more window decorations?  there's only one and it's really bland, moreso than just gnome
[07:14] <arrenlex> geeksauce: There's lots. It's in the beryl options iirc. Look around the diamond's right-click menu.
[07:15] <GaiaX11> slyfox: man rm
[07:15] <neighborlee> is t he nvidia problem still not fixed..??.out of box 2.6.17-10 is the kernel, yet adding nvidia-glx wont work as its expecting 2.6.17-11..so should I then upgrade to that kernel , reboot and redo nvidia-glx ??
[07:15] <arrenlex> slyfox: recursive, force
[07:15] <bula> i keep running across this when im trying to find ubuntu for amd64.  "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD"  i think thats just the tester right?
[07:15] <slyfox> GaiaX11: I get the same error: I do have video and audio playing but it is jsut that thsi error is annoying:  Reuqested audi codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not availabel. Enable it at compilation
[07:16] <slyfox> GaiaX11: I think I jsut need to set the right codec in the codecs section for audio ?
[07:16] <Myrtti> Demolitio: we heard you the first time, nobody is answering because nobody knows the answer or people knowing it aren't here. have you tried the forums yet?
[07:16] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Found it. Emerald theme manager in the diamond menu.
[07:16] <Demolitio> @Myrtti sorry for spamming :9
[07:16] <GaiaX11> slyfox: Have you looked in ubuntu codecs?
[07:17] <GaiaX11> bula: wait
[07:17] <slyfox> GaiaX11: I think I have all of them isntaleld
[07:17] <Demolitio> tried going through the forums.... but didnt come to any conclusions.
[07:17] <tony__> still having problems with sound card went through the alsa-source and i've got ntohing. any suggestions
[07:18] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i clicked "fetch" but i don't see any themes
[07:18] <tony__> ok, wait how do i reload all alsa sound modules
[07:18] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What happens if you type "apt-cache search beryl themes" in the terminal?
[07:18] <slyfox> GaiaX11: here http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4254/snapshot5mb3.jpg
[07:18] <arrenlex> tony__: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[07:19] <tony__> Thank you
[07:19] <slyfox> Can someone who uses Mplayer look at this screnshot and help ?  http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4254/snapshot5mb3.jpg
[07:19] <tony__> arrenlex; i've not a command not found
[07:20] <mikere> apt-get dist-upgrade is taking a very long time to complete - should I do something to add a repository or something to make this go faster? (by very long time i mean more than 12 hours so far)
[07:20] <geeksauce> arrenlex, this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326/
[07:20] <arrenlex> tony__: Please paste the exact error.
[07:20] <tony__> arrenlux;root@tony-laptop:~# sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[07:21] <tony__> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[07:21] <arrenlex> geeksauce: dunno. I get lots of themes in that list...
[07:21] <arrenlex> tony__: Try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[07:21] <tehxed> anyone have an issue with Beryl where.. when you select the theme, reload the window decorator.. and it still looks the same?
[07:21] <maxx18> is anyone else having problems reloading packages from the repos?
[07:21] <GaiaX11> slyfox: have a look in this lib in synaptic = mpeglib
[07:21] <AlleyKat> ok, thanks for no help :( maybe I should go find a distro more beginner friendly.. or where specs at least match description
[07:22] <n2diy> AlleyKat: good luck finding a more user friendly distro.
[07:23] <tony__> arrenlex, it sasy alsa is shtigging do and then setting up alsa . does that mean its been rest
[07:23] <Banthaman> hello
[07:23] <AlleyKat> well I'll bet i can find one which can actually fit on the cds
[07:23] <Eyra> hi
[07:23] <arrenlex> tony__: What?
[07:23] <StoneNote> AlleyKat, make sure it's a blank cd
[07:23] <AlleyKat> lol
[07:23] <Banthaman> just a sec I cant see my type
[07:24] <slyfox> GaiaX11: installing
[07:24] <AlleyKat> 711 mb iso, 702 mb on a 80-minute cd (yes its blank)
[07:24] <n2diy> AlleyKat: ok, I remember seeing your original question now. I sounds like your burner software isn't configured to play with your CDs?
[07:24] <tony__>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                 [ ok ] 
[07:24] <tony__>  * Setting up ALSA...
[07:24] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hmm i didn't have subversion installed so i think that's why i wasn't able to fetch themes.  installing subversion..
[07:24] <arrenlex> (23:18:33) tony__: ok, wait how do i reload all alsa sound modules
[07:24] <arrenlex> tony__: That did it.
[07:24] <Eyra> um... i'm having trouble with system > administration > networking
[07:24] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Subversion is a version revisioning system, like cvs. It has nothing to do with beryl or themes.
[07:25] <bulmer> what is the problem Eyra?
[07:25] <AlleyKat> has always worked fine, and if I had any proper quality cds I wouldn't hesitate to just overburn
[07:25] <Eyra> it wont work
[07:25] <Eyra> it crashes on startup
[07:25] <StoneNote> AlleyKat, and you are burning an image, not a data disc yes?
[07:25] <Eyra> i get the bugbuddy thing
[07:25] <bulmer> Eyra prefix with the nick when you respond pls
[07:25] <Eyra> bulmer: ok
[07:25] <geeksauce> arrenlex, "you need subversion package installed to use this feature"
[07:26] <AlleyKat> but pretty silly to require overburn... yes ofcourse, a cd with an iso file on it won't boot much :)
[07:26] <bula> ok i found this message on the ubuntu site, "If you want to keep Ubuntu permanently, there is an easy installer right on the DesktopCD"   i have that cd burned and i liked the testing mode but i cant figgure out where on the cd i go to do the full install =(
[07:26] <Eyra> bulmer would the bug file thing help?
[07:26] <tony__> does that mean its good
[07:26] <tony__> awesome should i open a sound program
[07:26] <tony__> should i restart the the compute
[07:26] <bulmer> Eyra im not familiar with the bug file, whats exactly you want done and what has happened so far?
[07:26] <slyfox> GaiaX11: I jsut selected Fmpeg codec for audio and it seems to go away
[07:27] <geeksauce> arrenlex, installed subversion and was able to fetch themes
[07:27] <Eyra> bulmer well, it was woking one day
[07:27] <Eyra> bulmer than it just stopped working
[07:27] <GaiaX11> bula: Use the alternate cd
[07:27] <Banthaman> its been so long sence I used mirc I forgot how to set stuff up
[07:27] <high-bass> hey guys... after installing the latest edgy nvidia drivers... i am having a few troubles... under nvidia-settings i cant seem to locate a section where it lets me pick my screenr resolution... anyone know a reason to this? im not sure when the exact max resolution my monitor supports....
[07:27] <n2diy> bula: there should be an install icon on your desktop, after you run the live cd.
[07:27] <AlleyKat> so I was wondering if the image might be busted instead - my cdburner works perfectly
[07:27] <bulmer> Eyra: what do you want done? configure a network card?
[07:27] <bula> gaiax11: the alternate for amd64 should do it then?
[07:27] <StoneNote> AlleyKat, you can have unfriendly Ubuntu send you a free CD https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[07:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Makes no sense to me, but okay. xD
[07:27] <Eyra> i want to start the network config program
[07:27] <GaiaX11> bula: Yes.
[07:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: As long as it works.
[07:27] <Eyra> bulmer i want to start the network config program
[07:28] <Eyra> bulmer sudo network-admin also crashes
[07:28] <bula> n2diy: on my ubuntu desktop or on my win desktop?
[07:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Helped a "friedgeek" a while ago. Are you related? Are you meant to be eaten together?
[07:28] <Eyra> bulmer ** (bug-buddy:13588): WARNING **: Couldn't load icon for Open Folder
[07:28] <Banthaman> there we go!!
[07:28] <GaiaX11> StoneNote: Not 6.10 though
[07:28] <Eyra> bulmer thats what i get
[07:28] <n2diy> bula: boot from the Ubuntu CD, and you should find the install icon on your desktop.
[07:28] <StoneNote> GaiaX11, dist-upgrade isn't difficult
[07:28] <geeksauce> arrenlex, lol nah, i'm the only sauce that you drink straight ;-)
[07:28] <bulmer> Eyra im not a gui person, i can show you how to configure manually
[07:29] <Eyra> ok
[07:29] <Eyra> bulmer ok
[07:29] <geeksauce> arrenlex, wow, that came out wrong
[07:29] <bula> n2diy: ok thanks a ton  =] 
[07:29] <arrenlex> Yep.
[07:29] <bulmer> Eyra which network card you want to configure? wireless?
[07:29] <n2diy> bula:  good luck.
[07:29] <Banthaman> ok, anyone know how to deactivate a wireless card for diagnostics after bootup?
[07:29] <david__> yo
[07:29] <Eyra> yah
[07:29] <tony__> arrenlex, it still detects no sound card. should i restart computer
[07:29] <Eyra> bulmer i want to turn it off
[07:29] <bulmer> Banthaman:  ifconfig wlan0 down
[07:29] <bula> gaiax11: if i cant find the installer on my desktop or get it working like n2diy said then ill start the alternate torrent that you said.  but im going to try the other first since i already have the CD
[07:30] <Banthaman> I have a problem there
[07:30] <GaiaX11> StoneNote: I tried to up from dapper to edgy 4 times. But, with no luck :-(
[07:30] <bula> gaiax11: thank you for your help also =)
[07:30] <bulmer> Eyra: same thing   ifconfig wlan0 down
[07:30] <arrenlex> tony__: Don't see how that would help.
[07:30] <Banthaman> it wont boot u p
[07:30] <geeksauce> arrenlex, this is cool.  not that i like vista, but the eye candy is cool.  but this beats it by a mile
[07:30] <arrenlex> tony__: You could try running this script: http://arrenlex.ls.la/alsaconf
[07:30] <Banthaman> keeps geting stuck on net config
[07:30] <Eyra> bulmer thank you
[07:30] <arrenlex> tony__: It's from the debian alsa-utils package. Handles soundcard setup.
[07:30] <n2diy> Banthaman: ifdown
[07:30] <david__> how would i go about accessing my windows network from my ubuntu computer through a wireless network?
[07:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Indeed. beryl ftw.
[07:30] <StoneNote> GaiaX11, I've dist-upgrade from breezy on up and am using feisty right now. never had a problem
[07:31] <Banthaman> I'll try
[07:31] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 | StoneNote
[07:31] <ubotu> StoneNote: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <david__> anyone?
[07:31] <Banthaman> will that shut down it searching for the card on bootup?
[07:32] <StoneNote> n2diy, and? you can still use it as alpha, which I am. do you have a point?
[07:32] <arrenlex> !samba | david__
[07:32] <ubotu> david__: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:32] <GaiaX11> StoneNote: I updated from breezy to dapper also. But didn't to edgy. So I will try from dapper to feisty in April
[07:32] <n2diy> StoneNote:  yes, that is the help channel
[07:32] <StoneNote> n2diy, I didn't ask for help
[07:32] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i think that IF more companies made computers pre-configured with linux, it would actually be able to compete with M$.  the only reason people don't use it is because it's not all "out of the box" ready like windows
[07:33] <StoneNote> n2diy, do you need reading comprehension lessons
[07:33] <oggy> help
[07:33] <mackinac> ok
[07:33] <oggy> I need to install automatix
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> no
[07:33] <oggy> pwease
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, no you don't
[07:33] <oggy> :(
[07:33] <mackinac> !automatix
[07:33] <syberdave> if you have a USB drive and you pull it out without unmounting it, how can you get the kernel to forget about it if you're not able to plug it back in?
[07:33] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:33] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Most people don't want to mess with something that's out of the box. Can you imagine very many people would want to spend their friday nights going over cryptic text configs with strangers in a crowded channel?
[07:33] <n2diy> ! automatix | oggy
[07:33] <ubotu> oggy: please see above
[07:34] <david__> how do i get my windows workgroup to show up in ubuntu?
[07:34] <StoneNote> GaiaX11, well I went from breezy to dapper to edgy to feisty so I can't comment on going from dapper to feisty
[07:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Most people want something that turns on when they press the button, does what they want when they insert CDs for applications, and then turns off.
[07:34] <oggy> I installed it before
[07:34] <GaiaX11> StoneNote: I will try anyway
[07:34] <oggy> it worked
[07:34] <oggy> what happened why isnt the url working for it anymore
[07:34] <mackinac> !enter | oggy
[07:34] <ubotu> oggy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:34] <arrenlex> !worksforme | oggy
[07:34] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, you're gonna get booted..lol
[07:34] <ubotu> oggy: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:34] <oggy> where is the website for it
[07:34] <StoneNote> GaiaX11, good luck
[07:35] <tony__> arrenlex, do you know anything else i could do the help this
[07:35] <bulmer> arrenlex then i dont have a job to fix the user mistakes  :)
[07:35] <tony__> arrenlex, thanks
[07:35] <tony__> arrenlex, how do i open or run the script
[07:35] <tony__> arrenlex: alsaconf will not open gdebin packer manager
[07:35] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, google is your friend
[07:35] <arrenlex> tony__: wow, that's quite a lot of things to say at once.
[07:35] <tony__> sorry
[07:35] <GaiaX11> StoneNote: Thx
[07:35] <arrenlex> tony__: You run the script by downloading it and then running "sh alsaconf" in that folder from the terminal.
[07:36] <dope> how do i reinstall mysql on ubuntu server edition
[07:36] <arrenlex> tony__: alsaconf has nothing to do with the package manager. What are you talking about?
[07:36] <tony__> sorry stupid enter
[07:36] <tony__> THANKS
[07:36] <geeksauce> arrenlex, that's what i meant.  if linux were pre-installed on systems the manufacturers would be able to make it work out of the box, or at least start to move in that direction.  but on the other hand, i like being part of the elite minority that can appreciate linux and not get frustrated after about 2.3 seconds, haha
[07:36] <arrenlex> tony__: You're welcome. For what?
[07:36] <arrenlex> tony__: Yes I do know what can help you, I just told you.
[07:36] <arrenlex> tony__: To be read in approximately the reverse order. =P
[07:36] <oggy> its b0rken
[07:36] <oggy> :|
[07:36] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, i noticed that earlier
[07:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Because Linux is open-source, it updates and changes all the time. When Windows XP came out, KDE 2.1 was fresh and new, and it looked like windows 3.1. Now KDE4 is in the oven, and it's amazing.
[07:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: When windows XP started, wine could run solitaire maybe. Notepad I think had some support.
[07:37] <oggy> see this is what happened turns out my maxtor hard drive had may bad sectors I fixed it with maxtor utility in the process it hosed ubuntu install for me
[07:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Now it runs games, office suites, viruses, everything.
[07:37] <oggy> I was able to get ubuntu up and running again
[07:37] <kelsin> WoW :)
[07:37] <GaiaX11> dope: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:38] <arrenlex> geeksauce: When windows XP came out, ubuntu didn't exist, and now it has millions of users and is the most popular distro.
[07:38] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, what are you trying to install that you need to have AUtomatix for?
[07:38] <arrenlex> geeksauce: When winXP came out, red hat was popular. Fedora didn't exist.
[07:38] <oggy> now im trying to get automatix so I can get the few softwares that worked before like swiftfox
[07:38] <Alley^Around> :/ sorry, bad idea to begin installing when the pc we're doing it on is the net bridge to the rest... is there a public log of this channel so I can see anything I might have missed?
[07:38] <tony__> arrenlex: sorry about asking you so much. but i open the file and its says syntax erro bad substitution
[07:38] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Things change very quickly in the Linux world, if you're on a desktop, or never, on a server.
[07:38] <oggy> I was using everything automatix had
[07:38] <arrenlex> tony__: Well crap. Run it was "bash alsaconf" then.
[07:38] <SirOSOriS> hi ive installed ubunt, now im about to install beryl once i get over this glitch.... i want to add the deb strings to sources.list, but i cant save the sources list...it wont let me
[07:38] <Frogzoo> oggy: on modern drives, usually once you have a few bad sectors, the drive's on its way out
[07:39] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, all that stuff is in the repositories and should be easily installable.
[07:39] <GaiaX11> arrenlex: Unfortunately, it is not like that
[07:39] <oggy> I just found it alot easier using automatix though
[07:39] <ardchoille> !automatix | oggy
[07:39] <ubotu> oggy: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:39] <GaiaX11> arrenlex: Win is still the most popular out there
[07:39] <IndyGunFreak> oggy, well, automatix is frowned upon here, so you won't get much help wiht it.. you can try #automatix.. but its usually empty there
[07:40] <arrenlex> GaiaX11: I know. That's what I'm saying. Linux can't be popular because it moves too fast for companies to keep up with. It's too fluid.
[07:40] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah, hopefully more people will see the light.  i think redhat was the first distro i ever tried.  it was pretty bad.  after that it was mandrake and then i heard about ubuntu.  tried suse and wasn't a fan, so back to ubuntu it was.
[07:40] <IndyGunFreak> i dont' really understand how installing from the repositories, is any harder than installing from automatix.. its the same thing, two clicks, right click, install
[07:40] <Pally> hey
[07:40] <Pally> anyone know how to install xubuntu on a USB?
[07:40] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Debian is my love. I have used it always. I have strayed briefly for kubuntu, but I realised the error of my ways = /
[07:41] <IndyGunFreak> Pally, how big is the usb drive?
[07:41] <Pally> 2GB
[07:41] <tony__> arrenlex: it sasy could not fine module  and it repeats it. sorry if i am annoying you
[07:41] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: but automatix breaks things
[07:41] <IndyGunFreak> good luck
[07:41] <bulmer> Pally look into DSL instead of ubuntu
[07:41] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy, im not going over all that again, suffice tos ay, i have it on 3 systems, 3 different versions of Linux, never a problem
[07:41] <geeksauce> arrenlex, what are you doing in an ubuntu channel then? haha
[07:41] <omeil_> IndyGunFreak: got meka the sega master system working without sound lol :D
[07:41] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Helping out.
[07:41] <Pally> i got knoppix running fine
[07:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: #debian is full of jerks.
[07:42] <qwerty> does anyone know the package name for the xvid codec or how i would install it
[07:42] <IndyGunFreak> personally, i think the claims that automatix breaks systems are horse crap, and it can probably be traced to something else 99% of the time, but people like to blame automatix
[07:42] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: ok, so sometimes it doesn't, but Ubotu doesn't like it. :)
[07:42] <Kaline> Pally: http://pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
[07:42] <geeksauce> arrenlex: i haven't tried debian.  what makes it better?
[07:42] <Kaline> First result on Google, go to figure.
[07:42] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy, i know.
[07:42] <GaiaX11> geeksauce: I wouldn't say that a linux distribution is bad. All linux are very good. Depends on your taste. I also used RH. And it was very good at that time. But, still think that debian is the best and ubuntu follows :-)
[07:42] <IndyGunFreak> thats what i was explaining to the other guy
[07:42] <Pally> kaline- i've come from that site
[07:43] <Pally> the download doesn't work for the ISO
[07:43] <Pally> so i downloaded a separate one, burned the image
[07:43] <Pally> but its not bootable
[07:43] <Kaline> Ah, my bad. Haven't look down at irssi in a while.
[07:43] <Pally> or at least my comp wont boot it
[07:43] <hobophobe> is it possible to have write access on hard drives off of a liveCD boot?
[07:43] <Arafangi1n> *sigh*, is it typical for wireless routers to die at high load?
[07:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: The differences are mostly ideological. I'm a huge fan of the Free philosophy, while most people are fans of the Just Works philosophy. Debian is more Free than ubuntu is.
[07:43] <Kaline> Does your BIOS support booting from a pen drive?
[07:43] <Pally> yeah
[07:44] <Pally> i got knoppix to boot from the USB
[07:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Also, ubuntu did something really weird to KDE. It's terribly, terribly slow. I don't know why.
[07:44] <qwerty> hobophobe, depends what file system
[07:44] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: any politics behind your nick?
[07:44] <Pally> but knoppix wouldn't run my wireless card ><
[07:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: debian always feels snappier.
[07:44] <yurimxpxman> I need help with my ubuntu server.  I can't get the pages to display that are in my web folder.  the ftp is working properly but any pages that are added to the server via ftp from another computer say that the person doesnt have permission to view the file.  do I just change the group?
[07:44] <hobophobe> ah, yeah.. NTFS
[07:44] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah ubuntu has the best support i've ever seen though.
[07:44] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy, again, somethign i don't discuss here, lol
[07:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Yes, that it does.
[07:44] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy, but the short answer is, yes
[07:44] <geeksauce> arrenlex, how do i do the cube thing with beryl?
[07:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Dunno, don't run it. xD
[07:45] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Sounds like you need to tweak permissions of the files after they are added to the server
[07:45] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: RKBA! Remember NO
[07:45] <Pally> did ya'll see the windows virus infect Wine?  the article is on digg...
[07:45] <Kaline> Pally: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pendrivelinux/
[07:45] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy, they're gonna boot you outta here..lol
[07:45] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  how do I manage that?
[07:45] <Kaline> Pally: They have Ubuntu images up for grabs, could just strip GNOME packages and install Xubuntu + whatever over.
[07:45] <IndyGunFreak> Pally, i figured it was possible.
[07:45] <qwerty> hobophobe, it is not recomended to enable write with ntfs  could serious mess with your hard drive
[07:45] <Frogzoo> geeksauce: if the cube doesn't work by default, beryl isn't working for you - wait til it's out of beta
[07:45] <hobophobe> shrimants installed ubuntu on his laptop and now removed it and wants to copy his backup from a USB HD to his laptop's NTFS... I asked him to join here for assistance
[07:46] <Frogzoo> !ntfs-3g
[07:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:46] <arrenlex> tony__: Try this version instead: http://arrenlex.ls.la/alsaconf
[07:46] <arrenlex> tony__: If that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas. Sorry.
[07:46] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  Will I have to change the permissions every time?
[07:46] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: man chmod    and for files that everyone is allowed to view: chmod a+r
[07:46] <IndyGunFreak> what was this virus that supposedly infected linux via wine?
[07:46] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: I was just reading that page today!
[07:46] <Frogzoo> a wine virus? lol - it was just a question of time
[07:46] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: I don't think they know what we are talking about!?
[07:47] <Kaline> Flez?
[07:47] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy, well, i like i there, so i leave it that way.
[07:47] <geeksauce> Frogzoo, i figured it out... wheel button on the mouse.  neat!
[07:47] <GenNMX> Hey, I am trying to figure out which is better for my server -- Ubuntu Edgy or Debian Stable. I want a nice, stable server where most of the CPU will be taken up by HTTPD, BitTorrent, TV Recording, and DVD Burning. I have dual P3 500MHz processors and 1GB SDRAM. I'm worried Ubuntu will be heavier then Debian stable.
[07:47] <Kaline> Excuse me, Klez?
[07:47] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, i haven't seen the page, which one is it.
[07:47] <Frogzoo> geeksauce: ctrl + alt also
[07:47] <bula> more ubuntu install questions lol.   i just tried to install it on my pc and it just sits on my computer loading when it gets to the part where it is trying to partition my HD.  my hd light doesnt light up and i dont hear anything.  its as if it doesnt recognise my hard drive.  my HD is 80GB serial ata. does that have anything to do with it?
[07:47] <GenNMX> I'm also going to use this server as my main workstation, but it doesn't need to "look fancy".
[07:47] <arrenlex> here it is: the wine virus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[07:47] <hobophobe> GenNMX, it shouldn't matter... either way you can configure it to the efficiency you need
[07:47] <SirOSOriS> bula let it sit for five minutes...its doing a hardware check
[07:48] <Pally> the wine virus
[07:48] <n2diy> ! RKBA | IndyGunFreak
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rkba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <ComputerHermit> yea
[07:48] <Pally> the guy downloaded the virus thru his email - and ran it separately
[07:48] <Pally> thru wine
[07:48] <IndyGunFreak> Pally, where did you read this?
[07:48] <Frogzoo> arrenlex: cry
[07:48] <cerry> halo
[07:48] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: I just said: here it is: the wine virus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[07:48] <GenNMX> hobophobe: Well, for instance, would Kubuntu be a hog?
[07:48] <Pally> go to digg.com its one of the top stories
[07:48] <GaiaX11> bula: Why do you want to hear?
[07:48] <arrenlex> Wow, that is a lot of colons.
[07:48] <SirOSOriS> bula, what version of ubuntu r u installing?
[07:48] <bula> it sat for a good 10 minutes or so
[07:48] <hobophobe> qwerty, is there an environment that can effectively write to NTFS and access the USB HD at the same time to make copying feasible and easy?
[07:48] <scv> hi
[07:49] <zoli2k> GenNMX: there is no strong differences, if you install the server version of ubuntu you can easily customize your installation with the necessary packages.
[07:49] <bula> im installing the 6.1 for amd64
[07:49] <bula> GaiaX11: usually when my computer is working i can hear my hard drive clicking
[07:49] <scv> bula, do you run amd64 at the 32-bit mode?
[07:49] <SirOSOriS> have you tried giving it different partition parameters?
[07:49] <geeksauce> Frogzoo, that doesn't do anything
[07:49] <hobophobe> GenNMX, what I was trying to say is that anything that is a hog can be removed or refined... it shouldn't really be an issue... they're similar enough.
[07:49] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, you gotta admit, it wa pretty stupid to try and run the viruses, just to see what would happen..lol
[07:50] <Pally> kaline, i downloaded that USBubuntu before, and clicked "makeboot", restarted - and ubuntu stopped booting after about 4 minutes - i left it going for 4 more but nothing happened
[07:50] <bula> i dont know what mode it runs at.  i just put it on my mobo and installed windows.  now i want ubuntu.
[07:50] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: On the contrary, it was hella cool.
[07:50] <qwerty> hobophobe, go into synaptic manager and get libntfs-3g0 ntfs-3g    but for really safe access to ntfs  is to share what you want via a network and connect to it via samba
[07:50] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  I honestly have no idea how to do that
[07:50] <Frogzoo> !ntfs-3g | hobophobe
[07:50] <ubotu> hobophobe: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:50] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, lol, only cuz it wasn't you..lol
[07:50] <bula> and no i didnt try giving different partition parameters
[07:50] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, eh. xD
[07:50] <Kaline> Anyone have an idea as to how to change the resolution of a tty?
[07:50] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[07:50] <hobophobe> Frogzoo, I know about the NTFS support in linux, that's not my question.
[07:50] <bula> i woudlnt even know where to begin to give different parameters and stuff
[07:51] <Frogzoo> bula: if your hard drive is clicking, check /var/log/messages for scsi timeouts - disk may be going bad
[07:51] <ComputerHermit> look at all the people here tonighttttttT
[07:51] <cerry> where is i get application xirc for ubuntu 6.1 ?
[07:51] <cerry> where is i get application xirc for ubuntu 6.1 ?
[07:51] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  my cousin was trying to figure it out earlier but never got it working before he had to leave
[07:51] <shrimants> i have a question: i backed up my windos partition to my external usb HD. then reformated the entire laptop HD and installed Ubuntu. now i want to switch back and restore all of my files. how do i copy the partition over from the removable HD to my normal HD, which is now NTFS formatted
[07:51] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, so it looks like the safest way to run Linux, is w/o any form of Wine
[07:51] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Ok, well no offense, but you might want to learn more about Ubuntu and servers before you go messing with one.
[07:51] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Well yeah. o_O
[07:51] <GenNMX> zoli2k: This is a home server, the only thing I have outside to the internet is HTTPD. Wouldn't the server version be overkill?
[07:51] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[07:51] <hobophobe> qwerty, there's nothing IN the NTFS partition. He's got a backup on a USB HD and wants to restore it to the laptop's clean NTFS (shrimants)
[07:51] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  my cousin is going to be the one managing it
[07:51] <bula> Frogzoo: what i meant was that there was no noise at all.  it sat for like 10 min and did nothing and my hard drive made no noise.  i would have expected it to make some type of noise if it was trying to partition or something
[07:51] <Kaline> xIRC is Mac-only, no?
[07:51] <Pally> how long does it take for you guys to get good with linux?
[07:51] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, i wonder if spyware coudl use wine to launch?
[07:52] <Pally> im still using windows, and after running knoppix, im really intimidated
[07:52] <qwerty> hobophobe, then man dd
[07:52] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  I am just going to ftp.  He is the linux guru around here but he had to leave tonight before getting it to work
[07:52] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: If he knows what he's doing, leave it to him :)
[07:52] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: It would mean the spyware would need to execute arbitrary commands on the Linux system, and if it can do that, you have much bigger problems.
[07:52] <shrimants> qwerty how do i use dd?
[07:52] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, good point
[07:52] <Kaline> Unless he meant the old xirc, that'd make a lot more sense. XD
[07:52] <hobophobe> qwerty, okay so dd will do the job then, and you can enable write access in the liveCD mode?
[07:52] <betatux> Kaline , if you add 'vga=791' to the kernel line of your running kernel in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst your terminals are 1024 resulotion
[07:52] <IndyGunFreak> spyware was the main reason i jumped off of Windows...
[07:52] <arrenlex> Pally: Really good? Maybe a year or so...
[07:52] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  I need it set up tonight cause I go back to school tomorrow
[07:52] <qwerty> shrimants, man dd
[07:52] <bula> by the way, is there a shortcut to putting someone's name infront of text rather than just typing it out before the message?
[07:53] <Frogzoo> bula: ext3 partition only takes a few seconds
[07:53] <ComputerHermit> i started with redhat and mandreak Pally
[07:53] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: He may have his own way of doing things and if you change anything now, it may upset his plans/techniques.
[07:53] <IndyGunFreak> had ver few virus problems(although i got sick of updating my AV software 3x a day)
[07:53] <arrenlex> !tab | bula
[07:53] <ubotu> bula: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:53] <qwerty> hobophobe, yes
[07:53] <betatux> Kaline , e.g. : kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash vga=791
[07:53] <Pally> ComputerHermit: you'd recommend those over ubuntu?
[07:53] <tony__> arrenlex:  still same thing. although i want to thank yo very much for your support though
[07:53] <tony__> hello, is anyone really familiar with sound cards and alsa?
[07:53] <sau1> Hello, my problem is that after installing ubuntu (which looks awesome) i cannot go back to my old windows xp os. i had XP installed on another partition and i would normally access it through the Windows Vista Boot Loader. now it is unable to load xp. someone pleeease help thanks ^^
[07:53] <bula> ah thank you
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !anyone | tony__
[07:53] <ubotu> tony__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:53] <arrenlex> !grub | sau1
[07:53] <ubotu> sau1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:53] <Frogzoo> tony__: there's 900 people in chan...
[07:53] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: To make a file viewable to everyone, you need to get in there and do: chmod a+r filename
[07:53] <arrenlex> sau1: (you want the first link)
[07:53] <qwerty> hobophobe, here is an eg   sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda
[07:53] <ComputerHermit> i havent been the same
[07:53] <shrimants> qwerty: the code is $ man dd?
[07:54] <tony__> sorry i'm forget to hold cntrl when i hit enger
[07:54] <arrenlex> shrimants: That lets you browse dd's help file.
[07:54] <tony__> *enter
[07:54] <ComputerHermit> NO Pally
[07:54] <arrenlex> hobophobe: Please don't run that command because it looks super super dangerous.
[07:54] <puff> Evening... amarok and gtkpod are fighting over my ipod.
[07:54] <sau1> i am able to load ubuntu fine, i cannot go back to windows xp
[07:54] <shrimants> arrenlex: thanks for clearing that up, i might be able to figure that out
[07:54] <bula> Frogzoo: so what do i do to install Ubuntu exactly?   i was on step 5 of 6 and it just sat and sat and sat with a message saying "you can manually partition your hard drive or have ubuntu do it automatically"  and it wouldnt let me go forward and it did nothing for 10 minutes.  it was as if it was frozen but i could do other things still
[07:54] <Kaline> betatux: A'ight, I'll see if it worked. :)
[07:54] <qwerty> shrimants, when i say "man" is stands for manual "dd" disk douplacate
[07:54] <betatux> Kaline, you have to reboot for it to take effect
[07:54] <ComputerHermit> Ubuntu is far better then any of thoughs Pally
[07:55] <GaiaX11> bula: http://osmirrors.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/   I would suggest you the alternate PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[07:55] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: I have to do that for every file?  Can't it be done another way?
[07:55] <Pally> ok- thats what i've read
[07:55] <shrimants> qwerty: OHHHHH ok
[07:55] <Kaline> betatux: Yeah, I know. lol
[07:55] <Pally> at least for people making the switch
[07:55] <betatux> Kaline, kk
[07:55] <tony__> alright, so when i open any music file i get "can not detect sound card" typing the alsamixer cin the command line does not work. it says its not detected
[07:55] <sau1> someoen please....
[07:55] <sau1> someone*
[07:55] <bula> GaiaX11: so use that intel install even though i have amd64 correct?
[07:55] <mikere> saul: Vista bootloader can be a problem right now.  Not sure if grub works well with it (or is it vice versa)?
[07:55] <mwe> how do you get information about reserved blocks, block size etc for an ext3 partition?
[07:55] <Frogzoo> bula: did you choose automatic install? do you have a partition free for linux to install on?
[07:55] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  Could I just do that for the main directory?
[07:55] <qwerty> does anyone know the package name for the xvid codec or how i would install it
[07:56] <Frogzoo> mwe: dumpe2fs
[07:56] <bula> Frogzoo: i just pressed the install button from the desktop on my ubuntu desktop cd thingy
[07:56] <mwe> thanks
[07:56] <SirOSOriS> how do i install the new nvidia drivers please?
[07:56] <GaiaX11> bula: Have a look in the page and read the 3 alternates infos
[07:56] <arrenlex> !nvidia-beta | SirOSOriS
[07:56] <hobophobe> qwerty sounds like you want ffmpeg?
[07:56] <ubotu> SirOSOriS: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[07:56] <zoli2k> GenNMX: Of course, the standard installation of ubuntu is also ok. The server version has some advantages if you have a many user server.
[07:56] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: You need to do that for every file that you want viewable by everyone. There are files on a server that only the admin should see, therefore you can't just do a blanket chmod a+r, it's a bad idea. You need to know which files can and cannot be viewable by everyone.
[07:56] <Frogzoo> mwe: dumpe2fs -h /dev/hd#
[07:56] <no0bgirL> hello everyone
[07:56] <SirOSOriS> ?
[07:56] <SirOSOriS> how do i install the new nvidia drivers please?
[07:56] <Pally> 1 problem with my linnux tirals so far is browsers- when you scroll, they lag really badly
[07:56] <mwe> whats -h?
[07:57] <n2diy> qwerty: run system-admin-synaptic, and search for it.
[07:57] <arrenlex> !hi | no0bgirL
[07:57] <ubotu> no0bgirL: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:57] <Frogzoo> bula: but at this point of the install, you have to choose whether to do manual or automatic partitioning
[07:57] <no0bgirL> :)
[07:57] <mwe> I'll read man dumpe2fs
[07:57] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: This is why I recommended that you learn more about Ubuntu and servers before doing this.
[07:57] <qwerty> n2dity, i have searched for xvid
[07:57] <zoli2k> zoli2k: If you want a lightweight installation maybe you should try xubuntu. Xfce4 became to a really nice environment.
[07:57] <weelo> Anyone here has ever had a problem where everytime you copy something and then attempt to paste comes out as "undefined" ?
[07:57] <SirOSOriS> how do i install the new nvidia drivers please?
[07:58] <sau1> has anyone been able to run Vista Boot Loader + Ubuntu???? i need some help...
[07:58] <bula> Frogzoo: i was at that point but it would not let me choose any type of partitioning.  it just sat there.  i couldnt go forward, couldnt select auto, or couldnt select manual.   it was just a little cursor in the shape of a circle with a dot going around in it
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> !nvidia | Sir_Brizz
[07:58] <ubotu> Sir_Brizz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  Well the server is staying here while I am at college.  I need to be able to have the permissions change automatically.
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> crap
[07:58] <sau1> i mean Grub
[07:58] <n2diy> qwerty: ok, have you enabled all the available nepos in synaptic?
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> !nvidia | SirOSOriS
[07:58] <ubotu> SirOSOriS: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <Frogzoo> mwe: for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ; do sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/hda$x ; done
[07:58] <AlleyKat> ok thanks for the hints... now got the cat out of the cables too :roll: and sorry if I sounded terribly annoyed/n00b, but a too large image to fit is imho a bit silly and then some. Thanks for pointers, going for a rtfm approach now, too many in here anyway
[07:58] <n2diy> (nepos=repos
[07:58] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, thats a very interesting thread, so do Linux AV scanners, scan for Windows viruses?
[07:58] <mwe> Frogzoo: thanks I just need it for hda3 and hda1, though ;)
[07:59] <qwerty> n2dity, never mind i remember how i did it in suse i got it now thx for the help though
[07:59] <sau1> *sigh* bye...
[07:59] <rendo> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'  Every single time I try and set a password for mysql I always get that error, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> IndyGunFreak, afaik, Linux AV scanners simply scan for malicious code in files just like any other virus scanner, OS independent
[07:59] <bula> GaiaX11: what exactly is this alternate install going to do?  it has a few bullets of extra options that i dont think fit my situation.
[07:59] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Linux AV scanners scan for virus signatures. Virus signatures are what you get when a virus attaches itself to a file. ClamAV is mostly used on mail servers, to scan attachments which are probably going between windows users
[07:59] <hobophobe> qwerty, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html%22***%3C/t-225.html
[07:59] <n2diy> qwerty: gl
[07:59] <Taime1> i cant watch this video with my mplayer plugin: http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/
[07:59] <AlleyKat> (it's also the least userfriendly start on what should be a userfriendly distro right) ;)
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, makes sense, but i'm still not installing Linux AV.. i refuse..lol
[07:59] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: All virus scanners scan for all viruses they know of. It would be silly to make a virus scanner for only Linux viruses, cause there are, like, none.
[07:59] <Taime1> can someone check that for me?
[08:00] <Costel> whats the best smtp server (package name)?
[08:00] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, that makes sense now that ou put it that way
[08:00] <geeksauce> are there backgrounds that go with the themes in beryl?
[08:00] <arrenlex> Taime1: I can. *wins*
[08:00] <Frogzoo> Costel: sendmail :D
[08:00] <n3rrd> How can I check to figure out if Ubuntu recognizes my usbwireless card? :|
[08:00] <Costel> thanks
[08:00] <bula> Frogzoo: so it shouldnt matter that i have a serial ata hard drive when its sitting on that window right?  so i should just let it sit for a bit longer maybe and see if it makes progress?
[08:00] <arrenlex> Taime1: Download it: wget http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/wwdc2006/apple-leopard_intro_896x448.mov
[08:00] <Frogzoo> Costel: postfix is simpler & easier to setp
[08:00] <arrenlex> Taime1: Then run it with mplayer from the local disk from the command line.
[08:00] <n2diy> AlleyKat: linux isn't meant to be user friendly, it is meant to be user safe.
[08:00] <rendo> !mysql
[08:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:00] <arrenlex> Taime1: Pastebin all output if it doesn't run.
[08:01] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  the best way  to learn is by experience...  do you know of a way that it can be done to where I wont have to change the permissions every time that I want to add a new file?
[08:01] <Frogzoo> bula: no, if the install's not obviously doing something, there's something wrong
[08:01] <AlleyKat> overburn isn't a safe approach ;) no telling wqhat quality the cds are
[08:01] <bula> when i was running my desktop ubuntu cd i noticed that there was no 1680 x 1050.  will that feature become available to me when i get the full install done?
[08:01] <bula> Frogzoo: do you have any idea what it could be?
[08:02] <uux86> How do I change gdm resolution in order to be the same as the desktop resolution ?
[08:02] <arrenlex> !fixres | bula
[08:02] <ubotu> bula: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:02] <Taime1> how do i run that in mplayer from the commandline?
[08:02] <bula> Frogzoo: right now i have windows installed on my hard drive.  maybe its taking up all the room on the partition or something?
[08:02] <arrenlex> Taime1: mplayer <file>
[08:02] <Taime1> thanx
[08:02] <Taime1> ill get back to you
[08:02] <AlleyKat> still wondering if it was me getting a wrong image file, which is why i was asking :) have google, will search
[08:03] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: No, I installed apache2 and php4 and it does that for me automatically.
[08:03] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Not sure why yours doesn't
[08:03] <Frogzoo> bula: some few installs need you to pass the kernel option 'acpi=off' from the grub menu - boot the CD & hit F6 at the menu - edit the kernel line & add that option, might help
[08:03] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  Do you ftp from root?  or a different ftp user?
[08:04] <zoli2k> uux86: edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:04] <bula> Frogzoo: that is way above my head.  i lost you after pressing f6 =/      maybe im not advanced enough to use this stuff =(
[08:04] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: I can't help you with this. Please ask someone else.
[08:04] <n2diy> yurimxpxman: ftping as root is very dangerous, do it as a user.
[08:04] <uux86> thanks zolik2k
[08:04] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille:  I am doing it as a user, but  I am trying to figure out why this isnt working
[08:04] <weelo> Anyone here has ever had a problem where everytime you copy something and then attempt to paste comes out as "undefined" ?
[08:05] <Frogzoo> bula: mostly it 'just works' - but not on all hardware - google 'acpi=off + grub" should get you some hits
[08:05] <Taime1> here is that output: http://pastehere.com/?mmgifr
[08:05] <cables> bula, what's up?
[08:05] <n3rrd> How can I check to figure out if Ubuntu recognizes my usbwireless card?
[08:05] <cables> bula, how'd the install go?
[08:05] <horrendus01> Hey everone, anyone open to attempting to help me with an issue I am having with ubuntu?
[08:05] <cables> !ask | horrendus01
[08:05] <ubotu> horrendus01: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:05] <Frogzoo> yurimxpxman: completely unnecessary to ftp from the root account, so don't
[08:06] <shriphani> can anyone tell me a command to find  folder in the system ?
[08:06] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  I don't.  I am just trying to figure this out
[08:06] <Frogzoo> shriphani: locate filename
[08:06] <n2diy> shriphani: locate
[08:06] <bula> cables: cant get it started yet lol
[08:06] <horrendus01> ubotu, well i didn't want to seem rude coming in and just demanding some help, thought I'd be a little polite lol
[08:06] <shriphani> so i just type locate .ivman ?
[08:07] <arrenlex> Taime1: Did it play?
[08:07] <cables> bula, ah, not so good then.
[08:07] <Taime1> no
[08:07] <bula> cables: i think it has to do with my serial ata hard drive.  the install just sits on the step where it says it is preparing to either auto or manual partition my hard drive
[08:07] <n2diy> shriphani: yep
[08:07] <arrenlex> !ubotu | horrendus01
[08:07] <cables> horrendus01, ubotu's a bot :)
[08:07] <Frogzoo> shriphani: nothing to lose by trying
[08:07] <ubotu> horrendus01: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:07] <shriphani> ok
[08:07] <Taime1> it plays for 2 secs, then crashes
[08:07] <rendo> Can somebody point me to a mysql setup page that actually works, I always get the same error about mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[08:07] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  Do you know what I should do?  The files that I ftp to the server computer can not be viewed by everyone.
[08:07] <bula> cables: but some nice ppl have been trying to help me and 'acpi=off + grub" might be the answer i was told
[08:07] <arrenlex> Taime1: Try as mplayer -vo xv -ao alsa <fie>
[08:07] <Costel> is there a mail system with an interface....i don't know what and how to configure senmail or postfix :(
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[08:07] <cables> bula, ok... no idea there. Trust the other people :)
[08:08] <horrendus01> ahh, hence the "bot" in the name, okay, didn't pick up on that one, Iguess I'm a bit slow
[08:08] <bula> cables: brb ima try once more before bed.  i gotta be up at 8:00 est!
[08:08] <llol> hey folks
[08:08] <arrenlex> ubotu, did you know you are the greatest bot ever? I love you so much. Please marry me! Don't ever leave me. Okay? <3
[08:08] <arrenlex> (00:08:28) ubotu: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:08] <arrenlex> Aha, it works.
[08:08] <arrenlex> So that's what that's for.
[08:08] <n2diy> horrendus01: welcome to Ubuntu, the bot caught me too.
[08:08] <llol> anyone here have experence or know of any rooms were i can get info for RAID configs
[08:08] <llol> ?
[08:09] <bula> cables: do you have aim?  i got aim working when i had my desktop ubuntu working.   maybe i can talk to you on aim if i need help
[08:09] <cables> horrendus01, are you still here? Ask away
[08:09] <horrendus01> yes, I am still here
[08:09] <cables> bula, yes, but you should really come here for help with Ubuntu. To tell you the truth, I'm really only good at a few things, and would rather chat here. If you register with NickServ, you can PM people here.
[08:10] <cables> !register | bula
[08:10] <ubotu> bula: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:10] <uux86> zolik2k. The login screen has a different resolution from the one of the desktop. I dont know what to change in xorg.conf in order the fix this problem. Do you have any idea?
[08:10] <Frogzoo> !raid | llol
[08:10] <ubotu> llol: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:10] <horrendus01> Basically I am having some issues with my video card and ubuntu starting the x server
[08:10] <arrenlex> Taime1: Judging by the last line,  V:   <font size="3">1.4  34/ 34 63%  1%  0.0% 0 0, it did play. You do realise that the actual clip itself IS only 34ms long? It's just a logo zoom. The other movies on that site are longer.</font>
[08:10] <Frogzoo> !fixres | horrendus01
[08:10] <ubotu> horrendus01: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:10] <Taime1> arrenlex, it failed again with this output: http://pastehere.com/?tanvnn
[08:11] <Taime1> you're kidding?
[08:11] <arrenlex> <font size="3">Taime1: Nope. Try the other clips.</font>
[08:11] <Taime1> good god
[08:11] <Taime1> im so sorry
[08:11] <arrenlex> Taime1: You should have been more specific that "all I see is a logo zoom" rather than "it doesn't play".
[08:11] <horrendus01> I had to install off the alternate install cd because the x windows server wouldnt start and I couldn't install from the livecd
[08:12] <burepe_> katapult is awsome. Is there a way I make it starts when my comp starts?
[08:12] <MybEvil_> How do I enable Multiverse?
[08:12] <Taime1> i will in the future
[08:12] <MybEvil_> to download Java6?
[08:12] <horrendus01> when ubuntu boots up, it gives me an error saying that there is a buffer I/O error on device hda
[08:12] <Taime1> again, my appologies for monopolizing your time ...
[08:12] <uux86> zoli2k. The login screen has a different resolution from the one of the desktop. I dont know what to change in xorg.conf in order to fix this problem. Do you have any idea?
[08:12] <arrenlex> Taime1: Although your mplayer IS misconfigured; it hit three bad options before it found a combination that worked.
[08:12] <Taime1> thanks
[08:12] <horrendus01> and then tells me that the x server didnt start because it probably isn'tconfigured correctly
[08:12] <penguinfan> hi, how can i migrate my debian vserver to ubuntu? i get errors with libc6 when i just switch apt sources.list
[08:12] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  Do you know how I can set permissions so that everyone can view files that I ftp as a user other  than root?
[08:13] <arrenlex> Taime1: Edit the ~/.mplayer/config file (it may not exist) and put the following into it:
[08:13] <arrenlex> ao=alsa,oss,null,
[08:13] <arrenlex> vo=xv,x11,
[08:13] <arrenlex> zoom=1
[08:13] <omeil_> horrendus I/O input output error. sounds like the hard drive.
[08:13] <horrendus01> I look at the output and it tells me that it detects a device, but no screens were found and therefore could not start up
[08:13] <arrenlex> Taime1: That'll make it faster.
[08:13] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  Nothing that I ftp as a user other than root is visible to anyone
[08:13] <omeil_> so could it be a video error horrendus?
[08:13] <shrimants> al right, qwerty, it seems to be working. the command has been entered and SOMETHING is happening, i dunno exactly what
[08:13] <shrimants> i;ll come back if theres a problem.
[08:13] <shrimants> thank you so much for your help
[08:13] <MybEvil_> How could I install Java?
[08:13] <Taime1> well, thats going the extra mile!
[08:14] <Taime1> thanks a lot!
[08:14] <arrenlex> !java | MybEvil_
[08:14] <ubotu> MybEvil_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:14] <burepe_>  Is there a way I make a program start when my comp starts?
[08:14] <posingaspopular> !java
[08:14] <arrenlex> Taime1: yw :) enjoy mplayer\ubuntu.
[08:14] <noodles12>  ok i screwed up my system!!! i was running xubuntu edgy and i installed BUM to get rid of services i didn't need. I got rid of GDM because i thought that was for gnome adn not xfce, adn now i can't log in.. when i start my computer, the screen is all fuzzy and blinking. how do i fix this when i use a live cd? what config files do i change to get gdm to auto start again?
[08:14] <zoli2k> uux86: I assume your screen depth is 24 bits. In the Screen section  look for the Subsection "Display" with the depth 24.
[08:14] <horrendus01> omeil, I was thinking that it was an error with the nvidia kernel communicating with the card
[08:14] <zoli2k> uux86: for the line:   Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[08:14] <Frogzoo> yurimxpxman: whose box is it that allows you to connect with ftp as root ??? O.O
[08:14] <omeil_> horrendus
[08:14] <uux86> ok. let me see...
[08:14] <yurimxpxman> it is mine
[08:15] <omeil_> maybe its not configuring the card correctly
[08:15] <yurimxpxman> well
[08:15] <zoli2k> uux86: the first value "1024..." is the default for gdm
[08:15] <omeil_> have u tried configuring the xorg.conf file
[08:15] <horrendus01> not manually, no
[08:15] <omeil_> and changing 'nv' to VESA. install Ubuntu then install the drivers manually
[08:15] <Frogzoo> yurimxpxman: allowing root access via ftp is welcome 2 haxor city
[08:15] <horrendus01> might I ask what vesa is?
[08:15] <horrendus01> I'm somewhat new to ubuntu
[08:15] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  I can't ftp as root only as a user, but the files that I do ftp as a user can't be viewed
[08:15] <omeil_> its kinda like running in software mode
[08:16] <edgy> Hi, for f in '*.ext'; do cat $f > $f-ext; how can I modify it to add -ext to the filename please?
[08:16] <Frogzoo> yurimxpxman: you need to check the docs of your ftp server
[08:16] <omeil_> so it should be able to work
[08:16] <Frogzoo> yurimxpxman: look for a howto for your ftp daemon
[08:16] <betatux_> horrendus01, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[08:17] <omeil_> what i did is press F^ and remove splash from the command line so it will be quite -- break=bottom
[08:17] <uux86> zoli2k . The only info I have in subsection display is: viewport 0 0 ; depth 24
[08:17] <arrenlex> edgy: Are you trying to make your own 'cp' utility? xD
[08:17] <horrendus01> from what I understand, alot of people with my vid card are having the same issue, but everything that I have tried that people have said they did that worked or that others should try fails
[08:17] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  I always get a 403 when trying to view pages ftp'd by a user.
[08:17] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  No permission for anyone that isnt a user
[08:17] <edgy> arrenlex: actually not but I want to know how to use for loop effectively
[08:17] <n2diy> edgy: looks like you are missing a space, try  $f  -ext
[08:17] <omeil_> horrendus im speaking to u in private
[08:17] <horrendus01> if it helps at all, its the geforce 8800 gtx card
[08:17] <arrenlex> edgy: What are you trying to do?
[08:17] <arrenlex> /info horrendus01
[08:17] <horrendus01> okay omeil
[08:18] <arrenlex> -_-
[08:18] <betatux_> Edgy, > $f\-ext
[08:18] <Frogzoo> yurimxpxman: that sounds more like an apache configuraiton/permission problem
[08:18] <arrenlex> I hate gaim
[08:18] <Banthaman> ok ifdown didn't work
[08:18] <arrenlex> omeil_: You can't talk to him in private cause he's not identified.
[08:18] <Frogzoo> !doesn't work
[08:18] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[08:18] <horrendus01> I'm not Identified?
[08:18] <yurimxpxman> Frogzoo:  Do you know how I should go about fixing this problem then?
[08:18] <uux86> zoli2k . Should I add Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ?
[08:18] <zoli2k> yes
[08:19] <cables> !register | horrendus01
[08:19] <ubotu> horrendus01: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:19] <uux86> thanks again zoli2k
[08:19] <n2diy> Banthaman: ifdown "what" didn't work? you have to tell the system what to bring down. And thanks for the time lag.
[08:19] <Banthaman> nope I tried ifdown ra0 for my wireless card (not installed) installed it and still locked on bootup "configuring network interface"
[08:19] <zoli2k> uux86: but I am surprised that xorg.conf miss this line.
[08:20] <uux86> I installed fgrlx driver, from ati
[08:20] <Banthaman> it won't boot to anything if the card is still installed
[08:20] <uux86> zoli2k I installed fgrlx driver, from ati
[08:20] <n3rrd> Would anyone be able to tell me why ndiswrapper won't work as a command out of a fresh install?  Does it need to be installed, configured, etc.?
[08:20] <edgy> betatux_, n2diy: that generates a *-ext instead of myfilename.ext
[08:21] <horrendus01> okay let me register realfast
[08:21] <ubuntu____> ih
[08:21] <ubuntu____> hi
[08:21] <Banthaman> I had the wcard up and running but didn't auto config on bootup and now it locks my system
[08:21] <uux86> zoli2k, fglrx :) I mean
[08:21] <Banthaman> any ideas?
[08:21] <arrenlex> edgy: I still don't understand what you're trying to do. You have a file called foo.ext. What do you want it to end up as?
[08:21] <n2diy> edgy: what generates that?
[08:22] <edgy> arrenlex: I am trying actually to replace some text in many files using sed script and save the result in a new file with a new extension
[08:22] <ComputerHermit_> ok emu
[08:22] <burepe_> what is the location for program files?
[08:22] <Banthaman> anyone?
[08:23] <noodles12> how would change what services are started automatically from a livecd?
[08:23] <arrenlex> edgy: new extension is going to be hard. Stripping off the old extension is a total hack.
[08:23] <SinesurfR> I've been having problems finding a payroll program for businesses in the US on linux.  The closest I can find is one for Canada/Australia.  Could someone help out with figuring out whether I can either tweak those to US standards or to find already made payroll programs within the US?
[08:23] <edgy> n2diy: for f in '*.ext'; do cat $f > $f\-ext2; done; ls *ext2
[08:23] <edgy> *.ext-ext2
[08:23] <burepe_> noodles12:  I don't think you can unless you make a new live cd. It is static info right?
[08:23] <arrenlex> edgy: Oh. If you're not removing the old one, that's easy.
[08:24] <ComputerHermit_> emulatior a free one anyone can anyone help me with a link I had virtualdisk
[08:24] <ComputerHermit_> and now I cant find it on the net
[08:24] <edgy> arrenlex: actually I want to append something to the filename not the extension
[08:24] <noodles12> burepe_: i'm not sure what you're asking?  . i turned off gdm to autostart using BUM and now i can't get into my system. so i want to get gdm to autostart again from a live cd
[08:24] <n2diy> edgy: ok, I'm lost, gl
[08:25] <burepe_> I$B!!(Bsee
[08:25] <arrenlex> edgy: for a in `ls *.ext` ; do sed 's/hello/bye/g' $a > ${a}-ext2 ; done
[08:25] <edgy> n2diy: i have a file foo.ext and I want to say rename it to foo-new.ext
[08:25] <arrenlex> edgy: Oh!
[08:25] <arrenlex> edgy: Hm.
[08:25] <burepe_> noodles12: what is BUM
[08:25] <lisapc> anyone know how to create a rescue partition and have ability to restore from a hidden rescue partition if needed?
[08:25] <arrenlex> edgy: Why don't you just use a renaming utility? It's so much easier.
[08:26] <n2diy> edgy: ok, rn foo.ext foo.-new.ext?
[08:26] <noodles12> burepe_: it just lets me uncheck or check services i want to be loaded at autostart.
[08:26] <n2diy> edgy: ok, rn foo.ext foo-new.ext?
[08:27] <SinesurfR> ?
[08:28] <n2diy> edgy: ok, sorry, renmae not  rn
[08:28] <n2diy> rename
[08:28] <edgy> arrenlex, n2diy: ok the real example is: for f in *.css; do sudo sed -e 's/left/lleft/g' -e 's/right/left/g' -e 's/lleft/right/g' $f > $f-rtl.css
[08:28] <edgy> n2diy, arrenlex: so I want to replace all lefts with rights and vice versa
[08:29] <edgy> n2diy, arrenlex: if possible without creating temporary files
[08:29] <Shaezsche> fsk died with exit status 1 and told my i had 10% non-contigous. is that bad
[08:30] <edgy> n2diy, arrenlex: what's the easies way to do it?
[08:30] <n2diy> edgy: gl,, your doing stuff I don't know how to do.
[08:32] <slipstream3d> Yaaaaagh, help! /var/log is 34GB and filling up my root partition :S
[08:32] <edgy> n2diy, arrenlex: the issue is I need to create files with content generated from a pipe
[08:32] <CorpseFeede1> is there any way to modify the artist and album tags on an .ogg audio file ripped off CD? Rhythmbox won't let me type in the text fields for the song's properties.
[08:33] <stratusfear> how can i play videos in color's letter on mplayer?
[08:33] <Shaezsche> fsk died with exit status 1 and told my i had 10% non-contigous. is that bad
[08:33] <arrenlex> edgy: here:
[08:33] <n2diy> edgy: you can do that with pipes, check out "man pipes or pipe"
[08:33] <arrenlex> http://arrenlex.ls.la/script
[08:34] <arrenlex> edgy: But surely there's a better way to do that.
[08:35] <stratusfear> how can i play videos on mplayer in colors' letters?
[08:35] <nowhere> Hello, I plan to switch to Ubuntu. Have tried it before but failed because I couldn't get my internet connection working. I have a WMP54G network card and the connection uses WPA encription. Is there anyone willing to explain me step by step noob proof how I can get thing working once the installation is finished? Once I have interenet I think I can figure out the rest :) Thanks in advance!
[08:35] <arrenlex> stratusfear: That's libcaca. It needs to be compiled with it. What does "mplayer -vo help | grep -i caca | wc -l" say?
[08:36] <ardchoille> edgy: echo "This is a test" | tee -a /path/file
[08:36] <arrenlex> edgy: Does it do what you want?
[08:37] <stratusfear> mplayer -vo help | grep -i caca | wc -s
[08:37] <arrenlex> stratusfear: -l, not -s.
[08:37] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Also, irc is not a terminal. :)
[08:37] <arrenlex> edgy: Oh, if you're using sudo with sed, you're going to have to use | sudo tee "file" instead of > "file".
[08:37] <stratusfear> arrenlex it say 1
[08:38] <arrenlex> edgy: And move the sudo to the tee, not the sed.
[08:38] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Then mplayer -vo caca <moviefile>
[08:38] <stratusfear> ok thanks bro
[08:39] <CorpseFeeder> Is there any way to modify the artist and album tags in an .ogg audio file ripped from a CD? Rhythmbox will not let me type in the text fields for song's properties...
[08:40] <reubs> I am having problems with login times for sshd under a vmware installation of ubuntu. It will login instantly from the computer the vmware player is on, but from other computers on my network it will take over a minute to login. Have already turned off the reverselookup. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[08:40] <pirothezero> anyone got a hotswap sata array going/working?
[08:41] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: I use Easytag for that
[08:41] <ardchoille> !easytag | CorpseFeeder
[08:41] <ubotu> corpsefeeder: easytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.12-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 2428 kB
[08:41] <stratusfear> arrenlex it say your system is to slow to play this
[08:42] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Get a better CPU =P
[08:42] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Are you playing it from a network?
[08:42] <yurimxpxman> Does anyone know set up a remote desktop connection to ubuntu with windows vista?
[08:42] <stratusfear> no i got it on my hard disk
[08:43] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Is it actually playing too slow?
[08:43] <CorpseFeeder> ardchoille: thank you
[08:43] <ardchoille> CorpseFeeder: You're welcome :)
[08:43] <vik> Hibernate used to work on my machine; now it hibernates once, then doesn't resume, but starts up normally. After this, swapspace is disabled, and if I try to enable it, it says swapon: /dev/sda2: Invalid argument. Any ideas?
[08:44] <stratusfear> arrenlex yes it said same shit using -vo aa and i did the same thing you told the other guy to make mplayer faster
[08:44] <arrenlex> stratusfear: That doesn't apply to you.
[08:45] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Don't take someone else's prescription medicine.
[08:45] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Is it actually playing too slow?
[08:45] <arrenlex> stratusfear: If so, try -framedrop or -hardframedrop.
[08:45] <stratusfear> arrenlex that worked using -vo aa it doesn't say that anymore
[08:45] <stratusfear> arrenlex ok
[08:46] <slipstream3d> ugh
[08:46] <slipstream3d> my log files are full of millions of kernel firewall messages
[08:46] <Polygon89> Hello, for some reason my ubuntu installation seems to be borked somehow, i cant login to either gnome or xfce... when i login the screen just goes black and it goes back to the gdm screen. When i try to login, it says something about session being under 10 seconds and to check an error log. Is there anyway to fix this, like what config files should i try clearing?
[08:46] <slipstream3d> how do I get this thing to cut it out?? i've disabled all logging entries in the shorewall configuration!
[08:47] <slipstream3d> anyone?
[08:48] <nowhere> Hello, I plan to switch to Ubuntu. Have tried it before but failed because I couldn't get my internet connection working. I have a WMP54G network card and the connection uses WPA encription. Is there anyone willing to explain me step by step noob proof how I can get thing working once the installation is finished? Once I have interenet I think I can figure out the rest :) Thanks in advance!
[08:48] <slipstream3d> nowhere: there's no real noob-proof way of getting the *drivers* installed, but once you've got them, gnome's network-manger package is an excellent way to connect using WPA
[08:49] <yurimxpxman> does anyone know how to remote desktop into ubuntu from windows vista?
[08:49] <yurimxpxman> or if it is even possible
[08:49] <slipstream3d> yurim: yes
[08:50] <stratusfear> arrenlex is working it doesn't say it anymore
[08:50] <slipstream3d> install a VNC package then use a VNC viewer on Windows
[08:50] <arrenlex> stratusfear: Okay. Enjoy.
[08:50] <stratusfear> arrenlex thank you
[08:50] <burepe_> I am looking for a solution to this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362957
[08:50] <slipstream3d> I use the UltraVNC viewer on Windows, and x11vnc on the linux server
[08:50] <Arafangi1n> tightvnc is also quite good.
[08:50] <Polygon89> nowhere, it seems that people have gotten your wireless card working on windows
[08:50] <Polygon89> not windows, ubuntu
[08:50] <nowhere> I found a website that states the WMP54 works out of the box.
[08:51] <yurimxpxman> slipstream3d:  how do I establish the connection?
[08:51] <Banthaman> enable teh remote desktop vnc server
[08:51] <stratusfear> nowhere i got the same wireless card and it work properly
[08:51] <reubs> can anyone help with a sshd problem?
[08:51] <Banthaman> should be under either preferences or administration
[08:51] <nowhere> cool stratusfear, can you confirm it works out of the box and I only need network_manager to connect to my WPA encrypted network?
[08:52] <horrendus01> I am back
[08:52] <n3rrd> *sigh*  Wireless support... :(
[08:52] <stratusfear> nowhere did you install its windows drivers on linux?
[08:52] <Arafangi1n> My wireless *stinks*
[08:52] <Banthaman> what card?
[08:53] <yurimxpxman> slipstream3d:  is ultraVNC free?
[08:53] <Banthaman> yeah
[08:53] <Arafangi1n> Banthaman: Not the card - my situtation is different - it just generally stinks.  I think my wireless station is dying.
[08:53] <nowhere> stratusfear: I wanted to switch to ubuntu before, month ago.. But failed at getting internet working, after getting 'depressed' over it I decided to give up. Ready for another try now :)
[08:53] <Banthaman> but currently only suports windows
[08:53] <robert_> help- I can't ping my gateway/local network, but I can ping the outside world
[08:54] <horrendus01> gah, the guy who was helping me out isn't here anymore...
[08:54] <horrendus01> ...
[08:54] <YangYin> horrendus01: what do you need?
[08:54] <stratusfear> nowhere ok the only way i got it working was installing its windows drivers on linux and then i installed network_manager
[08:54] <Polygon89> nowhere, here seems to be a good guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241565
[08:55] <horrendus01> He was helping me to change my xorg to change the driver from nv to VESA  because myvid card isn't working with ubuntu
[08:55] <Banthaman> I'm remote using my ubuntu using ulra vnc from xp - works good
[08:55] <horrendus01> and when I go to open the xorg file
[08:55] <horrendus01> its not there
[08:55] <YangYin> stratusfear: thats the only way my wireless works
[08:55] <horrendus01> I do nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:55] <YangYin> its a capital X
[08:55] <stratusfear> yangyin yeah mine too
[08:55] <horrendus01> it gives me a blank file with "new file" on the bottom
[08:55] <YangYin> captital x
[08:55] <robert_> anybody ever run into the same problem before?
[08:56] <Banthaman> later people
[08:56] <cafuego_> horrendus01: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:56] <YangYin> ... like i said
[08:56] <horrendus01> ok
[08:56] <horrendus01> brb then
[08:56] <YangYin> kk
[08:56] <YangYin> hmm... must be dual booting
[08:56] <qwerty> what runs on port 2208, what service
[08:56] <n3rrd> Is there any particular wireless card (PCMCIA or USB dongle) that is fairly trouble free under Linux?
[08:56] <cafuego_> Of course, provably not a good idea if you don't know linux is case sensitive.
[08:56] <YangYin> n3rrd: lol wireless that doesnt have that many problems *snicker
[08:57] <n3rrd> Figured, hah.
[08:57] <cafuego_> n3rrd: Depends. 802.11b (11Mbit) orinoco based cards are hassle free.
[08:57] <YangYin> n3rrd: just make sure that you have xp drivers and use ndiswrapper
[08:57] <Polygon89> dont get a card that requires ndiswrapper
[08:57] <nowhere> is it possible to try these things with an ubuntu live cd? So I try things in an easy way?
[08:57] <cafuego_> n3rrd: actively recommending windows drivers? classy.
[08:57] <YangYin> Polygon89: why?
[08:58] <n3rrd> Seems to follow suit with my general hatred for wireless networking...
[08:58] <Polygon89> why use ndiswrapper when there are cards that work fine with native drivers?
[08:58] <cafuego_> eh, YangYin even
[08:58] <yurimxpxman> how do I get GUI working in server edition?
[08:58] <Polygon89> i use a dlink g520 and i have never touched ndiswrapper
[08:58] <yurimxpxman> I have to do everything in textmode
[08:58] <YangYin> Polygon89: ... you got me there
[08:58] <yurimxpxman> and it sucks
[08:58] <YangYin> ndiswrapper isnt that hard to figure out
[08:58] <arrenlex> yurimxpxman: the ubuntu gui? Gnome?
[08:58] <arrenlex> yurimxpxman: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <Polygon89> ndiswrapper uses windows drivers, and most likely your going to run into problems since it was written for windows not linux
[08:58] <cafuego_> YangYin: The idea is to NOT buy cards that don't have drivers available.
[08:59] <YangYin> yurimxpxman: thats how they did it back in the day.. if you ask me people are expecting too much from linux
[08:59] <yurimxpxman> they are expecting it to be windows
[08:59] <daft> intel pro/wireless 2200 worked straight after install for me, havent had a problem yet
[08:59] <yurimxpxman> gross isnt it
[08:59] <YangYin> yurimxpxman: exactly
[08:59] <n3rrd> Polygon89:  would you happen to know if there is a usb/pcmcia version of that PCI card?  I know they tend to release them in batches like that...
[08:59] <Polygon89> if you want a suggestion, my D-Link g520 works perfectly with ubuntu, no hassle. Simply install, go to networking, set up your access point and wep encryption and your done.
[08:59] <Polygon89> im not sure
[08:59] <qwerty> yurimxpxman, have you tried starting the xorg  or try switching to tty7
[09:00] <n3rrd> Alright, I'll go to their site and figure it out.
[09:00] <cafuego_> n3rrd: I've not had problems with my pcmcia atheros card, which has native (but not open) drivers
[09:00] <yurimxpxman> tried xorg but it didnt work
[09:00] <yurimxpxman> nothing has worked
[09:00] <rendo> !ln
[09:00] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:00] <n3rrd> cafuego_:  model number?
[09:00] <cafuego_> n3rrd: I also have a broadcom 4306, but that can be a bit termperamental
[09:00] <cafuego_> n3rrd: Netgear WG511Tv1
[09:00] <qwerty> yurimxpxman, what command did you try for xorg
[09:01] <vik_> Got hibernate working again! yay!
[09:01] <n3rrd> that is the atheros?
[09:01] <Elrik> Hi, can anybody help me setting up my connection?
[09:01] <cafuego_> n3rrd: Yup, the T model
[09:01] <YangYin> Elrik: little more info...
[09:01] <Polygon89> yeah with atheros cards, the drivers are not techinally "open" since they include on binary file to comply with the FCC
[09:01] <YangYin> Elrik: connection to what..
[09:01] <cafuego_> n3rrd: I've heard unconfirmed rumours there may be additional version that do *not* sue atheros.
[09:01] <n3rrd> ebay, ebay, ebay.... gots to love it.
[09:01] <vik_> Another problem I have is that it doesn't seem to remember any samba network passwords even when I ask it to. Is this a bug or are there any workarounds?
[09:01] <yurimxpxman> qwerty:  I dont remember.  My cousin tried it all earlier today
[09:02] <yurimxpxman> he is a linux guru and can do it all in textmode but I cant
[09:02] <robert_> nobody's ever run into my situation before?
[09:02] <Polygon89> I think the best way to figure out what card to get is to pick a brand, and google it and see what others people's successes with the card has been.
[09:02] <Elrik> Yeah I was going to post more info,, I use a Wireless network card [Asus 802.11] , and with it I want to connect to the router in our home network, I have no idea how to set it up really.
[09:02] <n3rrd> Also, quick question (not sure if anyone would know).  I read earlier that Ubuntu comes with tpctl (for IBM trackpoints) and I can't seem to find it.
[09:02] <cafuego_> !info tpctl
[09:02] <ubotu> tpctl: ThinkPad hardware configuration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.17-2 (edgy), package size 76 kB, installed size 300 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:02] <YangYin> Elrik: go to terminal, type su, then admin password, then type iwconfig and tell me if you see anything
[09:03] <vik_> n3rrd: what do you want to do with the trackpoint?
[09:03] <cafuego_> n3rrd: You'd need to enable the universe repository.
[09:03] <arrenlex> !sudo | YangYin
[09:03] <ubotu> YangYin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <arrenlex> There is no su in ubuntu
[09:03] <YangYin> arrenlex: bah
[09:03] <YangYin> arrenlex: yeah there is
[09:03] <arrenlex> YangYin: Not by default.
[09:03] <n3rrd> vik_:  I just want to see what is available through it, that's all.  Getting used to this whole thing as I go.
[09:03] <Elrik> I tried working with the terminal, when I type anything in the terminal, it asks for a password, but then I can't type anything??
[09:03] <YangYin> arrenlex: okay, then Elrik type sudo iwconfig
[09:04] <daft> elrik: you can type, it just doesnt show you what letters are being typed
[09:04] <arrenlex> Elrik: You're actually typing, it's just hiding your password.
[09:04] <daft> type your pass and hit enter
[09:04] <Elrik> ohhhh
[09:04] <cafuego_> Elrik: sudo is asking for your password, just type it and hit return
[09:04] <YangYin> Elrik: lol... dont worry first time for everything
[09:04] <vik_> n3rrd: OK. mine worked out of the box (both trackpad and trackpoint) but I didn't think there were more possibilities
[09:04] <YangYin> Elrik: ... anything?
[09:04] <Elrik> i have Ubuntu on this computer, so I would have to reboot the computer to start up ubuntnu
[09:05] <Elrik> on windows now
[09:05] <n3rrd> Mine also work out of the box, vik_.  Just wanted to see.
[09:05] <qwerty> yurimxpxman, try this cd /usr/X11R6/bin
[09:05] <YangYin> Elrik: okay then... do you know if ubuntu found your wireless network card?
[09:05] <yurimxpxman> mkay
[09:05] <n3rrd> This model of Thinkpad doesn't have the trackpad (no biggie, I prefer the point anyways).
[09:05] <yurimxpxman> I will have to try it later
[09:05] <qwerty> yurimxpxman, /.xorg
[09:05] <yurimxpxman> I am trying to remote desktop to it right now
[09:06] <Elrik> I don't think it did
[09:06] <Polygon89> Hello, i have a problem: i cannot login to my ubuntu machine. GDM and everything starts up fine but once i try to login, the screen goes black and it boots me back to gdm. Upon trying to login again, it says the session lasted under ten seconds and gives some random error. Any advice on how to fix this?
[09:06] <Elrik> hang on i'll come on lappy and go on ubuntu on here.
[09:06] <arrenlex> Polygon89: What does the command "ls -ld ~ /tmp" say?
[09:06] <YangYin> Elrik: if it did type sudo ifdown wlan0, then sudo iwlist wlan0 scan, then type, sudo iwconfig wlan0 ESSID (name of network), then sudo ifup wlan0
[09:07] <yurimxpxman> how do I use ultraVNC viewer to connect to ubuntu?
[09:07] <Polygon89> arrenlex, im on the live cd right now, do you want me to mount my root partiton and see whats in there?
[09:07] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Sure, do that.
[09:09] <patrick_> my wifi is not working
[09:09] <patrick_> Intel PRO/Wireless 2915AB
[09:09] <YangYin> patrick_: define not working....
[09:09] <YangYin> patrick_: what isnt working
[09:10] <patrick_> Using a wired connection right now.. the network manager says connected and the driver is there
[09:10] <patrick_> but when i take out my ethernet cable the internet goes
[09:10] <Polygon89> arrenlex, are you asking me to post whats inside /home/whatever/tmp, or /tmp ?
[09:10] <YangYin> patrick_: that doest sound like a problem
[09:10] <n3rrd> hmm... anyone had experience with the D-Link DWL-G122 on Edgy?  The community wifidocs only have info for dapper and breezy
[09:10] <yurimxpxman> how do I connect to ubuntu from vista with ultravnc?
[09:10] <patrick_> Sorry for my lousy explanation
[09:11] <arrenlex> Polygon89: No, I don't want the content of anything, but the permissions.
[09:11] <patrick_> do you understand or should i rephrase?
[09:11] <arrenlex> Polygon89: What folder did you mount it in?
[09:11] <Polygon89> arrenlex, well since i have home / root on different partitions, home is /media/home and root is /media/root
[09:11] <YangYin> patrick_: okay so your internet works when your connected but when you disconnect the cable your internet goes too?
[09:11] <arrenlex> Polygon89: ls -ld /media/root/tmp /media/home/<yourusername>
[09:12] <Polygon89> arrenlex, i was just confused cause you had a ~ infront of /tmp, so i was wondering which  one
[09:12] <patrick_> YangYin : yes
[09:12] <arrenlex> Polygon89: There was a space between ~ and /tmp, to list them both.
[09:12] <arrenlex> Polygon89: This was what I was looking for:
[09:12] <CapaH> Ok I am going insane here.... Does anyone here know how to make CNN videos work? HELP :)
[09:12] <arrenlex> lem@sam:~$ ls -ld ~ /tmp
[09:12] <arrenlex> drwxr-xr-x 70 em   root  4096 2007-02-23 21:34 /home/em
[09:12] <arrenlex> drwxrwxrwt 23 root root 12288 2007-02-24 00:37 /tmp
[09:12] <YangYin> patrick_: okay... umm i might be wrong but its supposed to do that.... unless your thinking your wireless would kick in
[09:12] <YangYin> patrick_: do you have wireless
[09:13] <patrick_> Yes I do.
[09:13] <arrenlex> !mozilla-mplayer | CapaH
[09:13] <ubotu> capah: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[09:13] <patrick_> My router is setup.
[09:13] <arrenlex> !mplayer | CapaH
[09:13] <ubotu> CapaH: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[09:13] <YangYin> patrick_: okay type sudo iwconfig
[09:13] <YangYin> tell me if anything comes up on wlan0
[09:13] <patrick_> Right not the ethernet cable is connected to the router but i want to connect to my router wirelessy
[09:13] <CapaH> arrenlex, : I have both still not working
[09:13] <mistik> once samba is configured, how do i get the shared folder to show up on the XP side of the computer
[09:13] <CapaH> I get some error like mms:// could not play -- let me find it
[09:14] <YangYin> patrick_: ... anything
[09:14] <arrenlex> CapaH: Oh, that's easy. Right-click on the plugin window and go to configure.
[09:14] <arrenlex> CapaH: Check "connect to rtsp media over tcp"
[09:14] <Polygon89> arrenlex, drwxr-xr-x 109 1000 1000 4096 2007-02-24 07:35 /media/home/mark                  drwxrwxrwt   4 root root 4096 2007-02-24 07:36 /media/root/tmp
[09:14] <dee> hello
[09:14] <patrick_> YangYin one sec
[09:14] <mistik> any idea?
[09:15] <qwerty> ok i want to make a link type variable type thing eg  what ever directory you are in if you type $HOME  you go to  /home   now how do i make something like that but so that it points to a different directory
[09:15] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Your username is 1000? o_O
[09:15] <Elrik> Ok, I
[09:15] <Polygon89> arrenlex, no its "mark", cause at the end it says /media/home/mark... is it just saying that cuase im on the live cd?
[09:15] <dee> I have a little OT question: did anyone knows a little linux game I can compile for a report I give next week?
[09:15] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Hmm. I don't know. It could be.
[09:16] <mistik> is there a program like aida32 for ubuntu?
[09:16] <arrenlex> Polygon89: I'd feel better about this if we were on your native system...
[09:16] <n3rrd> cafuego_:  according to the wifidocs, the "made in Taiwan" version works out of the box, the "made in China" version needs ndiswrapper, etc.
[09:16] <patrick_> YangYin i sent you a privmsg with the details
[09:16] <CapaH> arrenlex, : Where is the 'plugin window' ?
[09:16] <arrenlex> Polygon89: It can't hurt. Try sudo chown -R mark:mark /media/home/mark
[09:16] <qwerty> !alien | mistik
[09:16] <ubotu> mistik: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:16] <Polygon89> arrenlex, well the thing is i cant LOGIN to my native system lol
[09:16] <YangYin> patrick_: you did?
[09:16] <arrenlex> CapaH: When you try to play a video, it's the thing the video plays in.
[09:16] <Elrik> I'm on ubuntu now, How am I supposed to connect to internet with my Wireless network card Asus 802.11, I want it to connect to my encrypted home network.
[09:16] <patrick_> http://pastebin.com/887786
[09:16] <YangYin> patrick_: i didnt get anything
[09:17] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Sure you can, just not into the gui.
[09:17] <mistik> so
[09:17] <patrick_> okay pasted it here.. thanks btw!
[09:17] <CapaH> arrenlex, : It loads inline into a webpage, when I right click there is no option for configure -- though there is preferences (tries that...)
[09:17] <Polygon89> arrenlex, is there some cli irc client that you can reccomend?
[09:17] <mistik> my main problem is my resolution, i can only use 800x600
[09:17] <YangYin> patrick_: okay and you say that your wireless isnt picking it up
[09:17] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Sure, if I can remember the name...
[09:17] <patrick_> Yes
[09:17] <cafuego_> n3rrd: Yeah.. mine's a taiwan...
[09:17] <arrenlex> !irc | Polygon89
[09:17] <ubotu> Polygon89: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:17] <CapaH> .. nope not even that
[09:17] <CapaH> there is only "About"
[09:17] <arrenlex> irssi is the one
[09:17] <Polygon89> rgr let me restart
[09:17] <Polygon89> and install that
[09:18] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Did you run my command?
[09:18] <Polygon89> ill do that now
[09:18] <arrenlex> CapaH: o_O could you go to about:plugins in firefox and pastebin the whole page?
[09:18] <arrenlex> ~pastebin | CapaH
[09:18] <irida> CapaH: Pastebin is a site where you upload your text to the internet, so that instead of pasting a huge number of lines and flooding the channel, you can just paste the link where we can read what you uploaded. The ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:18] <Polygon89> its saying invalid user
[09:18] <CapaH> sure 1 sec
[09:18] <patrick_> YangYin i only installed linux about 6 hours ago.. first time ever using it. ^_^
[09:18] <Polygon89> arrenlex, let me restart and then ill run it
[09:18] <arrenlex> Polygon89: I was afraid of that. Okay...
[09:18] <Polygon89> brb
[09:19] <ekimus> hi, is lvm broken in edgy? i get on "apt-get install lvm2" "lvm2: Depends: lvm-common (> 1.5.8) but it is not installable"
[09:19] <mistik> how do i see shared folders on xp, that are shared on ubuntu?
[09:19] <qwerty> ok i want to make a link type variable type thing eg  what ever directory you are in if you type $HOME  you go to  /home   now how do i make something like that but so that it points to a different directory
[09:19] <CapaH> Ok: http://www.pastebin.ca/370145
[09:20] <mistik> ol
[09:20] <arrenlex> qwerty: in /etc/environment, put the line FOO=/some/folder, and then run the command "source /etc/environment", and then you will be able to access /some/folder using $FOO
[09:21] <YangYin> !iwconfig
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <YangYin> bull shit
[09:21] <arrenlex> qwerty: <moronbuffer>Obviously, replace  /some/folder with your actual folder and FOO with whatever variable name you want</moronbuffer>
[09:21] <ekimus> qwerty: believe me you _don't_ want to change the $HOME variable - apart from that it is >>export $VARNAME="/path/to/directory"<< for your actual shell and if you want it to survive login/logout cycles you put it in ~/.bashrc
[09:21] <CapaH> arrenlex, : http://www.pastebin.ca/370145
[09:21] <arrenlex> CapaH: Oh.
[09:21] <YangYin> does anyone know of a respository for Macromedia flash
[09:22] <mistik> can anyone help me with my share issue, im sure its something easy
[09:22] <arrenlex> CapaH: apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[09:22] <sparr> memtest says my ram is DDR401...  what specifically might that indicate?
[09:22] <qwerty> ekimus, arrenlex, thx
[09:23] <CapaH> arrenlex, done
[09:23] <arrenlex> CapaH: Restart firefox.
[09:23] <YangYin> patrick_: did you get my message
[09:23] <YangYin> !flash
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:23] <Elrik> How can I connect to the internet with my Asus 802.11 Wireless card, I want to connect to a NETGEAR WGA614v6, I have the cd with drivers and all but none of them are for linux, i heard something about a ndiswrapper which i managed to find the files for and add on my Ubuntu Linux computer, but I have no idea on how to use them.
[09:24] <YangYin> Elrik: is ndiswrapper installed?
[09:24] <Elrik> no
[09:25] <nepomo_> hi
[09:25] <nepomo_> does anbody know how to find out what graphic-card (whats the correct english translation for that?) i have without looking inside
[09:25] <SurfnKid> um
[09:25] <YangYin> install it, if you know how
[09:25] <SurfnKid> how do i switch windows in irssi?
[09:25] <CapaH> arrenlex, Really strange, now I have *sound* but no video it just says "Playing mms://...."
[09:25] <patrick_> YangYin can u see this?
[09:25] <YangYin> patrick_: ... uhh no
[09:25] <Elrik> I don
[09:25] <arrenlex> CapaH: Sounds like you need w32codecs to me.
[09:25] <BelialMkII> SurfnKid: Alt and A will cycle throuhg things that have new things, else Alt +1-9 then q-p
[09:25] <arrenlex> ~w32 | CapaH
[09:25] <irida> CapaH: w32codecs available at: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[09:25] <Elrik> I don't know how, it
[09:26] <patrick_> http://pastebin.com/887790
[09:26] <YangYin> Elrik: open a terminal then go to the folder ndiswrapper is extracted at then type "sudo make install"
[09:26] <Elrik> it's all a bunch of files which ask me if i should run them in terminal or display them'
[09:26] <arrenlex> nepomo_: lspci | grep -i vga
[09:26] <slipstream3d> does anyone know where ubuntu stores its iptables rules between reboots?
[09:26] <nepomo_> thanks
[09:26] <patrick_> YangYin : http://pastebin.com/887790
[09:26] <mistik> can anyone help me with filesharing on ubuntu and xp
[09:27] <YangYin> internet is wigging out on me... just a sec
[09:28] <nepomo_> okay, nur mal ne frage, muss ich opengl gesondert installieren, hab laut der meldung ne radeon mobility 9600
[09:28] <SurfnKid> BelialMkII: thx man :)
[09:28] <YangYin> patrick_: i had the same problem with my wireless card... are you using ndiswrapper
[09:28] <arrenlex> nepomo_: ach! you need der fglrx driverscht, ja! Heil!
[09:28] <Elrik> how do I go to the folder ndiswrapper with the terminal?
[09:28] <nepomo_> sorry, forgot about the language, do i have to manually install opengl
[09:28] <arrenlex> !de | nepomo_
[09:28] <ubotu> nepomo_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:29] <arrenlex> !fglrx | nepomo_
[09:29] <ubotu> nepomo_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <YangYin> Elrik: you have to extract all the files contained in the tar file
[09:29] <patrick_> I installed it vis synaptic then i used the inf files i backed up onto a cd
[09:29] <yurimxpxman> Can I install ubuntu desktop without having a cd?
[09:29] <patrick_> but it said something like hardware found : no
[09:29] <Flannel> !install | yurimxpxman
[09:29] <ubotu> yurimxpxman: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:29] <Elrik> I think I did, Yang.'
[09:29] <YangYin> patrick_: you have an incorrect driver
[09:30] <yurimxpxman> ubuntu is installed
[09:30] <YangYin> Elrik: okay ... open a terminal
[09:30] <yurimxpxman> I need the gui
[09:30] <Elrik> done'
[09:30] <yurimxpxman> I want gnome desktop but I dunno what to do
[09:30] <yurimxpxman> I dont have a ubuntu cd here
[09:30] <YangYin> Elrik: type "cd (then the path to ndiswrapper folder)
[09:30] <yurimxpxman> and I am in textmode
[09:31] <patrick_> YangYin hmmm. i found my drivers from intels site and dell.com
[09:31] <patrick_> YangYin but i have no idea how to install by command line
[09:31] <yurimxpxman> I tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but it asks for the cd
[09:31] <yurimxpxman> I dont have it
[09:31] <yurimxpxman> does anyone know how to get it without a cd?
[09:31] <YangYin> well if you type in a terminal "ndiswrapper -l" do you get a driver installed, hardware found?
[09:31] <MybEvil_> can anyone help me with this: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6835/screenshotwy0.png
[09:31] <MybEvil_> i'm trying to install Beryl
[09:31] <YangYin> patrick_: the driver your using for your card isnt working... ndiswrapper should be fine
[09:31] <MybEvil_> and keep getting that
[09:32] <CapaH> awesome it works thank you
[09:32] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: You need to comment the CD out, in your sources.list
[09:32] <CapaH> arrenlex, : anything else I should do?
[09:32] <YangYin> MybEvil_: go to #ubuntu-effects
[09:32] <ekimus> anyone could tell me where I can find the lvm-common package  (> 1.5.8)?
[09:32] <YangYin> MybEvil_: they will be more help
[09:32] <arrenlex> CapaH: Does it work yet?
[09:32] <Elrik> it's installing now..
[09:32] <CapaH> hmmm one thing
[09:32] <YangYin> Elrik: okay cool
[09:32] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  how do I do that?
[09:32] <CapaH> arrenlex, : It works but it --- it gets black spots/blotchy areas
[09:32] <qwerty> arrenlex, you have no idea how mad i am for not knowing this earlyer  thank you now i know this it cuts my down in half
[09:33] <YangYin> patrick_: what does "ndiswrapper -l" give?
[09:33] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: you're in a terminal, correct? or KDE? or what?
[09:33] <yurimxpxman> terminal
[09:33] <patrick_> YangYin i dont have it installed
[09:33] <yurimxpxman> I am in textmode
[09:33] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:33] <patrick_> YangYin installing now
[09:33] <YangYin> sorry... sudo ndiswrapper -l
[09:33] <arrenlex> qwerty: Knowing what?
[09:33] <YangYin> im used to using su command so i dont have to type that damn'd sudo every time
[09:34] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: then, you'll find a line that... well, has what looks like a CD title (instead of a URL), near the top.  put a # at the beginning.  then ctrl-O to save, and ctrl-X to exit
[09:34] <arrenlex> CapaH: Hm. Right-click on the video and go to configure. Set the video driver to x11.
[09:34] <Elrik> It showed a bunch of stuff, like 50 different errors
[09:34] <qwerty> arrenlex, the damn link type command
[09:34] <arrenlex> qwerty: ??
[09:34] <Flannel> YangYin: sudo -i instead of su
[09:34] <YangYin> Elrik: could you pastebin the errors
[09:34] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  eh...  this will take a while
[09:34] <YangYin> Flannel: su works the same for me
[09:34] <high-bass> did anyone here get compiz working under the new edgy kernel? for some reason after the update to 2.6.17-11-generic from 10 my compiz doesnt work....
[09:34] <Flannel> YangYin: except you've had to enable the root account
[09:35] <qwerty> arrenlex, /etc/environment  then source /etc/environment
[09:35] <high-bass> i reinstalled it too
[09:35] <Flannel> high-bass: #ubuntu-effects for compiz support
[09:35] <arrenlex> qwerty: Oh.
[09:35] <high-bass> ok
[09:35] <YangYin> Flannel: well its not like im using it in a work environment
[09:35] <Flannel> YangYin: what's your point?  Zombie machines aren't all in work environments
[09:35] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  What exactly is this going?
[09:35] <YangYin> Flannel: okay okay i see your point
[09:36] <Polygon89> finaly
[09:36] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: what?  you're telling apt not to use the CD as a repository, and in doing so, it'll use the internet only
[09:36] <arrenlex> Polygon89: And hi!
[09:36] <CapaH> arrenlex, It looks good now
[09:36] <yurimxpxman> this list is only at like 16%
[09:36] <arrenlex> CapaH: Glad to hear it :) enjoy mplayer
[09:36] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: once you've done that, you'll need to update your cache (sudo apt-get update) and then you can install ubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <YangYin> Elrik: are you sure they are errors?
[09:36] <CapaH> arrenlex, thank you looks great :)
[09:36] <Polygon89> arrenlex, well it seems that either my internet is not working when im in cli, or the ubuntu repos dont have ircll
[09:36] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: what?
[09:36] <Elrik> i'm saving them to a text file and sending them, one sec
[09:36] <arrenlex> irssi
[09:36] <YangYin> Elrik: okay
[09:37] <Supaplex> Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/
[09:37] <patrick_> YangYin it said no drivers installed
[09:37] <patrick_> YangYin installing now will tell you again in few moments
[09:37] <YangYin> sudo ndiswrapper -l gave a no drivers insatlled
[09:37] <arrenlex> Polygon89: It's probably not that anyway... it was just a suggestion.
[09:37] <patrick_> Yes
[09:37] <Polygon89> it keep saying temporary failure resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Sorry... good luck.
[09:38] <YangYin> patrick_: okay make sure that 'sudo ndiswrapper -l' gives a driver present and hardware found
[09:38] <arrenlex> Polygon89: That sounds like either the internet or the repositories are down.
[09:38] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  I did this sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and I am not sure what it is doing
[09:38] <Polygon89> whatever, i stole my bros laptop
[09:38] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: it's opened a text editor, with that file open
[09:38] <yurimxpxman> whatever it is doing it is at like 18%
[09:38] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Oh, good. Okay, then you're in cli right now?
[09:38] <ALMimoni> how to install GTK themes that found at gnome-look site?
[09:38] <Polygon89> arrenlex, yep
[09:38] <arrenlex> Polygon89: What does ls -ld  /tmp ~ say?
[09:38] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: you must be... 18% through the file.  scroll around with the arrow keys
[09:39] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  I cant go anywhere with the arrow keys
[09:39] <Flannel> ekimus: er... 1.5.8?  All supported (breezy+) ubuntu versions have higher than that
[09:40] <Polygon89> drwxr-xr-x mark mark 4096 2007-2-24 00:35 /home/mark              drwxrwxrwt 5 root 4096 2007-2-24 1:37 /tmp
[09:40] <vinboy> hi
[09:40] <vinboy> which VNC client should I use?
[09:40] <ALMimoni> how to install GTK themes?
[09:40] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: I have no idea what you might be looking at then.  Do you have a bunch of command-ish things at the bottom?  (^[letter] )
[09:40] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Nope, it's fine...
[09:41] <Elrik> Well, it didn't work, since the computers have no connection and all, won't bother finding a disk to save it to, but first i entered the location of the map, typed sudo make install, and it started installing, got a few errors and all
[09:41] <Elrik> i just found this file though, a "Ndiswrapper-.tar.gz"
[09:41] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Sorry... good luck fixing it.
[09:41] <Polygon89> arrenlex, well actually trying to get install the cli irc client, i was doing man apt-get and it kept giving me errors about not enough disk space or something
[09:41] <arrenlex> Polygon89: o_O
[09:41] <YangYin> Elrik: i would suggest googling ndiswrapper and downloading the latest
[09:42] <arrenlex> Polygon89: df -H | grep /$
[09:42] <Polygon89> arrenlex, man apt-get -> gzip: stdout: no space left on device
[09:42] <Elrik> yeah, that
[09:42] <Flannel> Elrik: the CD you installed ubuntu with has ndiswrapper on it
[09:42] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  the bottom says  "23%[ 56 openoffice.org-style-industrial 2345567/3637KB 95%]                         83.12kB/s  47m58s
[09:42] <YangYin> Flannel: or that...
[09:42] <YangYin> Flannel: unless you didnt get a cd
[09:42] <YangYin> He*
[09:42] <Elrik> I have a cd'
[09:42] <Flannel> Elrik: if you used the Desktop CD, you'll need to add the CD as a repository with 'apt-cdrom'
[09:43] <Flannel> YangYin: how do you propose he installed it then?
[09:43] <Polygon89> arrenlex, that cant be right, its saying /dev/hde2  11g    11g  0   100%.... i had like 4 gb left over a couple days ago!
[09:43] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: You're currently ... downloading.  What is that?  wget? or apt-get?
[09:43] <patrick_> YangYin
[09:43] <arrenlex> Polygon89: rm -rf ~/.porn =P
[09:43] <patrick_> Installed ndis drivers:
[09:43] <patrick_> oem10   invalid driver!
[09:43] <Polygon89> that would go on my home partiton silly =P
[09:43] <yurimxpxman> idk
[09:44] <yurimxpxman> I just ran that thing sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Oh, right. Hmmmmm.
[09:44] <YangYin> Flannel: ? im not quite sure
[09:44] <Elrik> Well, I downloaded the latest version of ndiswrapper, put everything on my ipod, and used the ipod to transfer the files to my ubuntu linux, then i copyed all the files off my ipod and put them into my ubuntu linux desktop'
[09:44] <YangYin> lol
[09:44] <Polygon89> what can i uninstall just to get enough space to get into X?
[09:44] <YangYin> nice
[09:44] <ekimus> Flannel: interesting thing is that on apt-get install lvm2 edgy complains that no installable version of lvm-common is available (same with binutils now which is quite strange imho)
[09:44] <YangYin> Elrik: and a sudo make install came up with errors?
[09:44] <arrenlex> Polygon89: sudo apt-get clean
[09:44] <YangYin> patrick_: yes
[09:45] <Flannel> ekimus: update your cache then.  What third party repositories you using?
[09:45] <Polygon89> arrenlex, still 100%
[09:45] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  what would be downloading?  All I did was run what you told me to "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:45] <Elrik> some errors occured and some warnings, maybe it worked tho
[09:45] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: I doubt you did.  You're downloading packages, as if you grabbed stuff from apt-get.
[09:45] <ekimus> Flannel: nothing this is a fresh install, only universe is enabled
[09:45] <SinesurfR> does anyone know of a speech recognition program for linux?
[09:45] <yurimxpxman> that is exactly what I typed
[09:46] <yurimxpxman> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:46] <YangYin> Elrik: ... if you got errors im pretty sure you didnt install it im guessing you have dependancy issues
[09:46] <YangYin> Elrik: i dont know why
[09:46] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: did you have a prompt when you did it?  Since this looks like it's been runnign fora while
[09:46] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  no I am in text mode and there was nothing
[09:47] <patrick_> YangYin they say invalid drivers... im getting them directly from intel.com though
[09:47] <Elrik> is there any way to check if it worked?
[09:47] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Look for large files, I guess: find / -type f -size +500000k
[09:47] <ekimus> Flannel: no wait, i'll take everything back. i disabled not only cdrom: but also httpd: sources :) - <== total idiot
[09:47] <arrenlex> Polygon89: (This is 500MB+)
[09:47] <Flannel> ekimus: I guess.... install lvm-common first, then try the lvm2
[09:47] <Flannel> ekimus: heh, that'd do it then ;)
[09:47] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  Should I restart the computer?
[09:47] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: no.
[09:48] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  What is sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list supposed to do?
[09:48] <YangYin> patrick_: if you know what type of card it is i would suggest googling your card along with xp drivers
[09:48] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: it will open an editor (nano) editing that file (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[09:48] <arrenlex> Polygon89: This one is the same but easier to copy out correctly: find / -type f -size +500M
[09:48] <YangYin> patrick_: the drivers may be too new
[09:48] <YangYin> patrick_: or too old
[09:48] <patrick_> most likely too new
[09:48] <YangYin> patrick_: probably
[09:48] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  is there a way to make it stop downloading these packages?
[09:49] <Polygon89> arrenlex, how do i specify a directory, as its scanning everything including my windows partitons which has a bunch of video games on it
[09:49] <patrick_> YangYin thanks alot! ill try
[09:49] <YangYin> patrick_: np
[09:49] <SinesurfR> is there a code word that I must type to get a response?
[09:49] <YangYin> patrick_: just have to find the right one
[09:49] <Polygon89> arrenlex, my ability to use man pages is a little limitenoighwt  =P
[09:49] <Polygon89> limited*
[09:49] <Flannel> !repeat | SinesurfR
[09:49] <ubotu> SinesurfR: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:49] <YangYin> Elrik: type sudo ndiswrapper
[09:49] <Flannel> SinesurfR: second clause, not first.
[09:49] <yurimxpxman> I just want gnome why does it have to be so hard?
[09:49] <YangYin> Elrik: if a command not found occurs then its not installed
[09:49] <Elrik> found it'
[09:50] <SinesurfR> Flannel: thanks
[09:50] <SinesurfR> just making sure that chatzilla's working
[09:50] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: it's not.  Go ahead and ctrl-C to stop that, then edit your file
[09:50] <YangYin> Elrik: you got a bunch of commands
[09:50] <Elrik> yeah'
[09:50] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: although... you obviously did something to start the update
[09:50] <YangYin> Elrik: okay now install your driver using sudo ndiswrapper -i <driver>
[09:50] <nepomo> sorry again, where do i find that manual again for installing the ati drivers, cant find it in google that quick
[09:50] <YangYin> !ati
[09:50] <YangYin> ?
[09:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:51] <arrenlex> Polygon89: replace the / at the beginning with a specific folder.
[09:51] <arrenlex> Polygon89: the / is the path -- root in my command.
[09:51] <Elrik> YEah, it worked
[09:51] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  nothing is in this file
[09:51] <arrenlex> Polygon89: find /var/giantfiles -type f -size +500M
[09:51] <Elrik> when i type sudo ndiswrapper -l it shows also
[09:51] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:51] <yurimxpxman> server
[09:51] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: lsb-release -a
[09:51] <YangYin> okay Elrik does it say driver installed, hardware found
[09:51] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: dapper? edgy?
[09:51] <yurimxpxman> edgy
[09:52] <YangYin> go edgy
[09:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Any wizard here who can help me with my crashed apt-get / dpkg? The package "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic" wont completely get configured! "dpkg --configure -a" just hangs when trying to configuring it. I cant remove it either, dpkg / apt-get just hangs at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..." I've tried removing it with all kinds of 'force' applied! Im stuck, and no one has bee
[09:52] <Elrik> yes
[09:52] <Elrik> Installed drivers: zd1211u          driver installed
[09:52] <YangYin> Elrik: type sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:52] <qwerty> i would love to stay here and talk shop but i have to go dream about tux
[09:52] <Polygon89> arrenlex, is there any way to scroll up in the command line mode? its really annoying that i only get one screenful of text
[09:52] <YangYin> Elrik: wait..
[09:52] <qwerty> !tux
[09:52] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[09:52] <YangYin> Elrik: it just says driver installed
[09:53] <YangYin> no hardware found
[09:53] <arrenlex> Polygon89: ctrl+pgup
[09:53] <arrenlex> Polygon89: sorry, shift+pgup
[09:53] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: I assure you there's stuff in that file.  go ahead and navigate there, (cd /etc/apt) and then type "less sources.list" and you'll see
[09:53] <Elrik> yes
[09:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> The status of the package is http://pastebin.se/9193
[09:53] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Or else you can pipe it to more
[09:53] <YangYin> Elrik: sould say something like thisdriver installed   device (10EC:8185) present (alternate driver: r818x)
[09:54] <YangYin> Elrik: not exactly that wording
[09:54] <tensor> i plan to use sockets only, i put the skip-networking option in /etc/mysql/my.cnf and mysql fails on restart
[09:54] <tensor> log says it can't locate the socket file in /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[09:54] <Jazon> hi everyone
[09:54] <arrenlex> !hi | Jazon
[09:54] <YangYin> Jazon: hey
[09:54] <ubotu> Jazon: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:54] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  how do I get this editor off the screen?
[09:54] <AzMoo> tensor, is the socket file there?
[09:54] <Elrik> doesen't say hardware found, should i type sudo depmod -m anyways?
[09:55] <tensor> AzMoo, it's not, doesn't the service automatically creates it?
[09:55] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: less? hit escape
[09:55] <yurimxpxman> nano
[09:55] <YangYin> does it say something like this "driver installed device (10EC:8185) present
[09:55] <Jazon> so, I can't resolve a rather serious problem with an upgrade to feisty.  I can't boot.  It seems to think there is a raid (??) and cant find any md devices  mdadm is the problem i think...  any suggestions?   http://rafb.net/p/n5Xme841.html  <--- the error i get while chroot to the partition
[09:55] <AzMoo> tensor, it should. Is mysqld running?
[09:55] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: ctrl-X (^ means control)
[09:55] <AzMoo> tensor, duh, clearly not. 2 secs.
[09:56] <yurimxpxman> k
[09:56] <Polygon89> arrenlex, im getting some stuff in /tmp and some stuff in /root/, can i safely delete that stuff?
[09:56] <Elrik> no
[09:56] <tensor> AzMoo: D
[09:56] <tehxed> crimsun, you there?
[09:56] <Elrik> it only says driver installed
[09:56] <arrenlex> Polygon89: /tmp should be cleaned at boot.
[09:56] <YangYin> Elrik: then the driver you have isnt correct, you have to have that present there
[09:56] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Try sudo /etc/init.d/bootclean start
[09:56] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  there is stuff there but it wont let me edit it
[09:57] <yurimxpxman> do I try nano again?
[09:57] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: less is jsut a viewer, not an editor.  Now, type "sudo nano sources.list"
[09:57] <YangYin> Elrik: ndiswrapper has to have the correct driver or else it wont work
[09:57] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: you mistyped something previously.
[09:57] <YangYin> Elrik: well
[09:57] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Of course, I'm simply not going to tell you that "yes, all that stuff can be removed" because "stuff" is incredibly vague and you might easily break something.
[09:57] <arrenlex> Polygon89: er, more than it is already, that is.
[09:58] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Give me a few filenames.
[09:58] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: you can also type a bit of the name (like sou) and hit tab, and it'll complete it for you
[09:58] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Anyone know why apt-get hangs when trying to install "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"?
[09:58] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  how do I exit less.  ESC isnt working
[09:58] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, define "hangs"
[09:58] <Polygon89> arrenlex, at the bottom it says stuff like /root/.kde, /root/.trash, /root/.thumbnails
[09:58] <HymnToLife> yurimxpxman, Q, for quit
[09:58] <Elrik> Hmm,, it should be the correct driver tho
[09:59] <arrenlex> Polygon89: You can remove /root/.kde and /root/.thumbnails
[09:59] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Have you been using this system as root?
[09:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: when reaching "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..." it just stops
[09:59] <Polygon89> arrenlex, then a bunch of stuff from /proc
[09:59] <Polygon89> k
[09:59] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  I comment deb cdrom: ubuntu yata yata yata?
[09:59] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Don't touch proc.
[09:59] <Polygon89> duh =P
[09:59] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Have you been using this system as root?
[09:59] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: yes, a single # at the beginning
[09:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: current status of the package is http://pastebin.se/9193
[09:59] <YangYin> Elrik: the driver could be too new, or too old, i would check out channel #ndiswrapper if you want more in depth help
[09:59] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  will it automatically download gnome then?
[10:00] <arrenlex> Polygon89: What I meant to say was /root/.trash, not .kde, but I guess it doesn't matter much.
[10:00] <Polygon89> arrenlex, no. and it still says that the hard disk is full
[10:00] <arrenlex> Polygon89: But make sure you get the trash.
[10:00] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: no.  It'll stop asking for the CD
[10:00] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  and it will install gnome?
[10:00] <Elrik> ok, thanks for the help anyways.
[10:00] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, have you tried running dpkg-configure on it ?
[10:00] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: Once you've done that, save (^O), quit (^X)
[10:00] <arrenlex> Polygon89: Try the du command and then sort the output numerically so you can see some digits.
[10:01] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: then update (sudo apt-get update) and then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[10:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: you mean dpkd --configure -a ?
[10:01] <HymnToLife> yep, same thing
[10:01] <arrenlex> Polygon89: du | sort -n
[10:01] <Polygon89> arenlex,  it lists /root/.synaptic in it, should i clear that?
[10:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: yes, just hangs at the same output "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..."
[10:01] <Flannel> yurimxpxman: also, once you're done installing that, you'll want to come back here and ask how to install a desktop kernel (and get rid of the server one)
[10:02] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  I need the server one
[10:02] <arrenlex> Polygon89: du -hx | sort -n might work better
[10:02] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: trying dpkg --remove just hangs at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..."
[10:02] <arrenlex> Polygon89: du -x | sort -n might work better
[10:02] <HymnToLife> that's really weird...
[10:02] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  I just needed the gui so I dont have to mess with my website in text mode
[10:03] <arrenlex> Polygon89: I dunno. I don't run synaptic, I don't know what it puts where.
[10:03] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: yeah.... so now I cant install anything because apt-get / dpkg detects a half configures package, tries to configure it and then hangs...
[10:03] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  thanks for the help
[10:04] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, maybe the DEB was corrupted during download
[10:04] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  it is installing right now
[10:04] <HymnToLife> try downloading it manually and installing it with dpkg -i
[10:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: good idea! do you know where to download linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ?
[10:04] <Polygon89> is there something that im missing.... cause your command you gave me before (df -H | grep /$ ) is still saying that my hd is 100%, even though ive deleted stuff
[10:05] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: i'll give that a shot! stay tuned! ;)
[10:07] <AzMoo> tensor, mine does the same, except I'm not getting anything in my error log. That's interesting.
[10:08] <tensor> AzMoo: maybe it's how the ubuntu package works
[10:08] <tensor> AzMoo: i'll try my luck compiling from source
[10:09] <AzMoo> tensor, indeed, but it shouldn't.
[10:11] <uux86> hello. where do I find source.list ?
[10:12] <tensor> uux86: /etc/apt/
[10:12] <uux86> thnx
[10:12] <eduedix> hi. in which groups is the first created regular user in ?
[10:12] <eduedix> -in
[10:12] <theidiotthatisme> tensor: beat me to it
[10:13] <eduedix> can any of you run command "groups" as user ?
[10:13] <HymnToLife> eduedix, yes
[10:13] <HymnToLife> it will return all the groups the current user is in
[10:14] <Polygon89> arrenlex, it says that im using 9.4 gb out of 9.9gb, yet it still says the use % is 100%, do you know why this is?
[10:14] <eduedix> HymnToLife: i know what it does but i need to know the output please
[10:14] <HymnToLife> eduedix, that depends how you setup your groups
[10:15] <eduedix> HymnToLife: can you do it please ?
[10:15] <HymnToLife> here it gives this :
[10:15] <HymnToLife> mfb@ana:~$ groups
[10:15] <HymnToLife> mfb dialout cdrom floppy audio operator video plugdev netdev powerdev
[10:15] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: trouble... I find the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic package on packages.ubuntu.com but it doesnt seem to be downloadable... "Cant find that package" - when i click Download linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic for my architecture (i386)...
[10:15] <eduedix> HymnToLife: well, whats it as deafault ?
[10:15] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: same thing for AMD64...
[10:15] <eduedix> HymnToLife: have you played with your groups ?
[10:15] <HymnToLife> eduedix, yes but I'm not running Ubuntu anyway
[10:15] <eduedix> hmm
[10:15] <qwerty> which is better compression tar.gz, tar.bz2, zip, ar, ear, jar, war
[10:15] <eduedix> bz2
[10:16] <Imsdle> i want to share a samba folder.... i have it all setup (i think) but I get a login screen from my xp lapotp.. can can't login
[10:16] <Imsdle> how do i not have a login screen?>
[10:16] <qwerty> do you all agree with eduedix
[10:16] <eduedix> any ubuntu user, can you run command "groups" as default user please ? i need to know the output
[10:16] <AzMoo> qwerty, yes, but if you need to use your archive on windows you may have issues.
[10:16] <nowhere> I think it might depend on the type of file you are compressing.
[10:16] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, it works fine here, here's a direct link : http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.7-11.1_i386.deb
[10:16] <eduedix> qwerty: sorry ?
[10:17] <eduedix> please run "groups" and give me the output
[10:17] <AzMoo> eduedix, qwerty was just asking if everybody agreed with your answer.
[10:17] <qwerty> AzMoo, windows can suck my apendage
[10:17] <mitchbones> err
[10:17] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: yeah... got it... i tried downloadig it from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic does that work four you? (just for reference)
[10:18] <AzMoo> eduedix, "matt adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin www"
[10:18] <uux86> what is the source where I can get opera browser ?
[10:18] <yaman> u]  V
[10:18] <yaman> u]  V
[10:18] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, yep, that's where I got the link from, does the package work ?
[10:18] <elkbuntu> !opera | uux86
[10:18] <ubotu> uux86: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:18] <nowhere> uux86: I don't think opera is open source..
[10:18] <sysq>  MM 
[10:19] <GenNMX> Hey, I'm having trouble getting my head around PCI slot ordering. Does it matter which slot I put a PCI card in for what priority it will have getting through the bus?
[10:19] <uux86> thanks
[10:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: no... stalls in the same state... ill do a pastebin of it... and translate the output from swedish... hold on!
[10:20] <GenNMX> Example: I have a network card, an IDE card, a video capture card, and a video card in my PCI slots. Their priority to me is just as I listed. Is there any particular slot order I should use?
[10:21] <tensor> ack!
[10:21] <tensor> now firewall is broken
[10:21] <uux86> !canonical
[10:21] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[10:23] <Imsdle> anyone on samba issues? can't have an open share
[10:23] <AzMoo> tensor, did compiling from source fix the mysql issue?
[10:23] <Ribs> GenNMX, I think it depends on the motherboard.
[10:23] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: this is what happends: http://pastebin.se/9194
[10:23] <Ribs> GenNMX, generally I think the slots "at the top" have higher priority than those at the bottom.
[10:23] <tensor> AzMoo: haven't started yet, can't even ssh to the server anymore, even with iptables off
[10:24] <pete_nz> hi all need to compile and install driver for 56k modem but get error saying kernel source isnt installed.I have done update and apt-get upgrade and apt-get install build-essential
[10:24] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: now its stuck at line 21...
[10:25] <GenNMX> Ribs: Well, here's the main problem -- Ubuntu is convinced that devices connected to my PCI IDE card are the start of hd*, not the integrated IDE controller on the MB.
[10:25] <Ribs> GenNMX, I don't think there is anything you can do about that
[10:26] <screechingcat> can anyone recommmend an application that can convert a bunch or MP3s and RMs into Ogg files ?
[10:26] <GenNMX> Ribs: I used to have Debian on this system before a bad testing package fried it, and ide=reverse would sometimes fix the problem. Ubuntu doesn't seem to respond to that.
[10:26] <AzMoo> tensor, spewin.
[10:26] <Ribs> GenNMX, I guess that was a debian specific kernel patch then
[10:26] <GenNMX> Ribs: I would reboot and sometimes the order would be onboard first, and sometimes not.
[10:27] <AzMoo> Imsdle, in /etc/samba/smb.conf uncomment the line that says "security = user" and change it to "security = share". Restart samba and you're all good.
[10:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: still there?
[10:30] <Kaso> How come suddenly i only have read access to my root partition
[10:31] <uux86> sometimes words are very small using firefox. this doesnt happen when I use opera. I dont know the exact url of the source where I can get opera. I know it includes canonical and commercial words. What is the exact url ?
[10:32] <ComputerHermit> I'am haveing alot of sound prob and I done everything on web fourm
[10:33] <kosnick> the update notification icon shows me to install a lib i dont want to , can i erase this from the notification icon?
[10:33] <Ribs> uux86, www.opera.com maybe
[10:34] <uux86> No. thanks anyway Ribs
[10:34] <Ribs> uux86, if you can't read the sites in firefox, goto the view menu, then text size, then increase
[10:34] <aXeus> Just booted 6.10 Desktop so I could back up a SATA drive to an IDE drive on my system..... Where do I reference mount to mount the SATA drive?
[10:34] <screechingcat> uux86: opera has debian packages available for download on their website
[10:34] <aXeus> hdc1 is the IDE drive..... I can't figure out where the sata drive rests...
[10:34] <uux86> aaa .. ok :) thanks all
[10:35] <mixandgo> helo, any idea why I get 90% cpu usage when I resize a window ?
[10:35] <krzysztofgudowsk> hi. is it possible to install the newest (2.0) version of Frozen Bubbles on Ubuntu?
[10:35] <ComputerHermit_> anyone
[10:35] <polpak> does anyone know of any problems with the propriatary ati drivers when using edgy? I just installed and I followed the wiki instructions, but it won't use the fglrx driver
[10:36] <uux86> polpak. I just installed it. You have to disable dri... let me see if I can find the options you have to put in xorg.conf
[10:37] <krzysztofgudowsk> I have two Windows (NTFS) partitions but I can't see them? Why? And how can I make them visible and editable in Computer?
[10:37] <uux86> polpak,the first option is:
[10:38] <uux86> Section "Extensions"        Option  "Composite" "Disable"  EndSection
[10:38] <polpak> uux86: I have that
[10:38] <kosnick> krzystofgudowxk : you can check on this : http://www.frozen-bubble.org/downloads/ (in the middle of the page ...)
[10:38] <uux86> ooo... and the other ?
[10:38] <ComputerHermit_> anyone have any idea's about the sound card config
[10:38] <ComputerHermit_> z
[10:38] <uux86> Section "ServerFlags"       Option  "AIGLX" "off" EndSection
[10:39] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: what kind of sound card, what sort of problem.. be more specific (and sorry if i missed details reading back)
[10:39] <krzysztofgudowsk> nobody can help me? :)
[10:40] <polpak> uux86: trying now, brb
[10:40] <kosnick> krzystofgudowsk : check this for frozen bubble 2 http://www.frozen-bubble.org/downloads/
[10:40] <kosnick> middel of the page
[10:40] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: you can see them but they will need to be mounted with a driver, such as ntfs-3g
[10:40] <ComputerHermit_> I install it on this old pc my sound card is a CS4611-CM
[10:40] <uux86> polpak. needless to say those are 3 lines
[10:40] <MybEvil_> I went to get beryl...and I screwed up the graphics...lol
[10:40] <ComputerHermit_> ubuntu is working great
[10:40] <krzysztofgudowsk> ok but how can i do that? I am new in Kinux :)
[10:40] <MybEvil_> anyway to fix this?
[10:40] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: is it an old sound-blaster compatible card then?
[10:41] <ComputerHermit_> just no sound no
[10:41] <ComputerHermit_> not that I know of
[10:41] <ComputerHermit_> CS4611
[10:41] <ComputerHermit_> mojo
[10:42] <I-kido> MybEvil_:  what did u screw up?
[10:42] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: linux can mount different file systems each using what amounts to a different driver... you can either manually use the mount command to mount your drive or make an entry in the /etc/fstab (file system table) configuration file
[10:43] <mojo> CS4611 is by which mfg?  Creative Labs or another company?
[10:43] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Anyone here who can help me with a apt-get / dpkg problem? Apt-get / dpkg hangs when trying to configure the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic. I cant remove it neither. I cant do anything apt-get / dpkg related anymore! Im stuck!
[10:43] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: CS4611 is by which mfg?  Creative Labs or another company?
[10:43] <ComputerHermit_> and also my wireless card on this system is working and i dont know how it is working it see's it as Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset
[10:43] <aXeus> Ah I figured it out.
[10:44] <ComputerHermit_> Crystal mojo
[10:44] <uux86> polpak. if ok, test the 3d with the following program: fgl_glxgears
[10:44] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: everything in linux appears under one large directroy structure or tree starting with the root, or /  directory... most external drives and such are mounted and mapped to a "mount point", which is a dummy directory that will become the start of the new file system's root...
[10:44] <kosnick> i had a shortcut for terminal . i installed beryl and now shortcut for terminal isn't working anymore (i cant even change it....) Any sugggestions?
[10:45] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: okay 1 min i will explain some stuff to this other person then i will see what i can find for you in google at the same time
[10:45] <I-kido> kosnick:  delete the shortcut, drag a new one
[10:45] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: nevermind, that other person just left.. ah well...
[10:45] <ComputerHermit_> mmmm ok hey thanks I will look as well I done everything on the web fourm mojo
[10:46] <ComputerHermit_> lol cool
[10:46] <kosnick> i-kido : how ? through sytem -> preferences -> keybord shortcus , i already hav3e tried and no works...
[10:46] <whileimhere> Is there a keyboard command to open the nautilus browser say to the home folder instead of clicking through the main menu/
[10:46] <ComputerHermit_> hey my wireless card is a linksys WMP11v4
[10:46] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: the thing with the wireless card is that many mfgs will use the same chipsets in their stuff so it may be recognized though not by the brand name you expect
[10:46] <I-kido> kosnick  did u mean ur keybindig doesnt work?
[10:46] <aXeeus> I've been out of the linux world for a while here... Now... Write to NTFS is .. still unsupported orrr ?
[10:46] <ComputerHermit_> and ubuntu see's it as a Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset
[10:46] <ComputerHermit_> mojo
[10:47] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: were you following along before you got disconnected?
[10:47] <ComputerHermit_> ahhh
[10:47] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: perhaps so... that is likely
[10:47] <ComputerHermit_> but will not work in suse
[10:47] <ComputerHermit_> so I love this version
[10:47] <krzysztofgudowsk> no sorry ;)
[10:47] <krzysztofgudowsk> some kind of problems :)
[10:47] <ComputerHermit_> ubuntu
[10:47] <ComputerHermit_> rules
[10:47] <GenNMX> What
[10:47] <kosnick> i-kido : i had used system > preferences > keybord shortcuts to make a shortcut for opening a terminal (as well as other things) . Now for some reason it doesn't work. I can not change it . Theother shortcuts still work and even more i can change them .....
[10:48] <eduedix> which package should i install to play mp3 files ?
[10:48] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: if it works in ubuntu then it is possible to make it work in suse... they are both linux, one just may have taken it in account for autodetect where the other has not
[10:48] <ComputerHermit_> just no sound should I reinstall it
[10:48] <eduedix> which package should i install to play mp3 files ?
[10:48] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Anyone here who can help me with a apt-get-package that hangs when trying to install... and the wont let itself be removed? Im really stuck... and i dont want to reinstall the OS!
[10:48] <ComputerHermit_> ahhh I dident know that mojo
[10:48] <mojo> eduedix: there are choices.. the lame mp3 encoders and decoders, and then there is fluendo, and the mad audio libs...
[10:49] <pirothezero> whats the command to decrease the 5 % disk reserver by root to 1-2 %?
[10:49] <mojo> ComputerHermit_: if it didn't detect the first time it may not the 2nd... but it "may"... it is a lot of work when it is better to just read up on your card... lets see what is out there
[10:49] <eduedix> mojo: just gimme one and i will instal it
[10:50] <ComputerHermit_> ok mojo
[10:50] <ComputerHermit_> hehe
[10:50] <funpop> i got a new bluetooth-usb stick: it works, but i have manually put it out and stick it in again after a reboot. can i configure it somewhere that ubuntu recognize it everytime ?
[10:50] <ComputerHermit_> 926 people in here
[10:51] <heero1711> so much..
[10:51] <uux86> Sometimes, when listening to music, the volume changes ( goes up and down ... ). What is the reason and what should I do to fix this ?
[10:51] <funpop> seems like thats a problem of your music-file
[10:51] <I-kido> kosnick sorry, I tried but I also cant assign a shortcut to open a terminal
[10:51] <kosnick> ok thx
[10:52] <us546_> Is there a way to re-detect hardware in ubuntu?
[10:52] <uux86> funpop, it isnt. I happens with several music files ? from different albuns
[10:52] <funpop> hmm
[10:52] <uux86> it ^
[10:52] <I-kido> kosnick u could try ALT F2 until u solve the problem
[10:52] <uux86> no '?'
[10:52] <funpop> and it isnt a problem with a cable ?
[10:53] <uux86> umm .. maybe
[10:53] <uux86> I'm going to explore this possibilitie. thanks.
[10:53] <GenNMX> uux86: sudo discover
[10:54] <compwiz18> how would I go about browsing my windows shares in Samba?  typing smb:/// in the location bar gets a please check your spelling error
[10:54] <uux86> GenNMX,  nothing happens
[10:55] <whileimhere> Anyone know how to use a .cli file?
[10:55] <uux86> GenNMX,  command not found
[10:56] <mojo> eduedix: the drivers are in the repositories... you can run synaptic and search names and descriptions for mp3.  ubuntu uses the gstreamer media back-end, and you can look for mad and fluendo back-ends to that, probably lame too.  but if the libraries get installed other stuff will pick up on them.. start with which programs you use to see what back-ends they want, then get the pieces for those back ends...
[10:56] <uux86> !discover
[10:56] <ubotu> discover: hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (edgy), package size 295 kB, installed size 716 kB
[10:56] <funpop> hello please give me any input: i got a new bluetooth-usb stick: it works, but i have manually put it out and stick it in again after a reboot. can i configure it somewhere that ubuntu recognize it everytime ?
[10:57] <aXeeus> Can I write to an NTFS partition (safely) on 6.10 liveCD?
[10:57] <funpop> i doubt
[10:57] <mojo> ComputerHermit_ seems to have left us.. ah well
[10:57] <compwiz18> anyone here who could give me advice on a c++ question?
[10:58] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: you still lurking about?
[10:58] <amaan> can anyone help me installing my audio driver?
[10:58] <aXeeus> compwiz18: shoot
[10:58] <mojo> eduedix: what programs are you trying to use with mp3 files?
[10:58] <uux86> GenNMX, Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
[10:58] <mojo> amaan: which drivers?
[10:58] <compwiz18> aXeeus: is there any way to recusively move through directories?
[10:58] <amaan> realtek hd audio
[10:59] <mojo> amaan: so you mean for the hardware...
[10:59] <amaan> right, sorry im new to ubuntu and linux
[11:00] <whileimhere> Are there any good sites that have GNOME sound themes?
[11:00] <uux86> gnome-apps.org ?   whileimhere
[11:00] <mojo> amaan: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[11:01] <aXeeus> compwiz18: with a few loops...
[11:01] <aXeeus> compwiz18: i remember when my teacher went over that in my second semester of CPP.. but i don't remember it... lol
[11:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Any experienced apt-get / dpkg troubleshooters around? A package (linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic (2.6.17.7-11.1)) have "crashed" my apt-get!!!!!!!
[11:01] <amaan> mojo, i already did this it didn't work
[11:01] <mojo> amaan: also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30024  and http://www.dirfile.com/realtek_hd_alc_880_audio_codecs_v_r3_43_for_unix_linux_.htm
[11:02] <aXeeus> oh well...
[11:02] <krzysztofgudowsk> yes i am still looking about this ntfs-3g
[11:02] <Humza> is there a command to show detailed boot information instead of the logo during the boot? thanks.
[11:02] <ahave> an anyone recommend a command line, playlist capable, mp3 player?
[11:02] <ahave> can*
[11:02] <uux86> whileimhere, sorry.  I was referring to gnome-look.org
[11:03] <mojo> amaan: the ubuntuforums article mentions that the drivers are pre-compiled against an earlier kernel, so you have to get the source and recomiple, recomile alsa... see the article for details
[11:03] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I can try and help, although I am not an expert.  Did you get an error?
[11:03] <Slart> Humza: yes..you edit the grub config thingy.. I think you remove the word splash
[11:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: nope... no error... check out http://pastebin.se/9194
[11:04] <Humza> slart: thanks
[11:04] <Slart> Humza: you can do this when you reboot.. when you get the boot menu to chose from different options
[11:04] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: are you starting to understand about mount points and such then?  you create a dummy directory under, say, mnt/myntfsdrive or /media/myntfsdrive and "mount" the ntfs drive onto that directory using the ntfs-3g driver
[11:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: the installation permanently hangs... trying to remove the package also hangs!
[11:04] <Slart> Humza: I think you press 'e' to edit at that point
[11:04] <Humza> yeah, I think youre right
[11:04] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: is it still doing that right now?
[11:05] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: yes... the pastebin i sent is still "on hold" in the terminal
[11:05] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok.  can you open another terminal and run top?
[11:05] <krzysztofgudowsk> ok but first I am trying to install ntfs-3g because it looks like I don't have it...
[11:05] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: and how long has it been running for?
[11:06] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: for approx 45 minutes...
[11:06] <britt_> anybody know of a good calender program like schoolbell, but one that actually works?
[11:06] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: open a new terminal and do what?
[11:07] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sorry, open a new terminal and run top
[11:07] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: what is "top"? :)
[11:07] <cry0x> sup sup
[11:07] <xixor> sup
[11:07] <mtholdenss> can't get microphone working..
[11:08] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: it will give you a list of running programs by cpu usage.  I wonder if it is eating your cpu up right now?
[11:08] <thomax> does anyone have an idea on this one? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=14075.0
[11:08] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: cool, yeah you prob. have to install it
[11:08] <compwiz18> thomax: do you have any external hard drives?
[11:08] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ah ok! well... i have the cpu-gage in my panel... if i open the list of running processes dpkg is at 0%!
[11:09] <krzysztofgudowsk> I must go now, but thanks for help i will try to do it :) thx mojo!
[11:09] <compwiz18> thomax: or usb keys or other removable storage stuff?
[11:09] <mojo> krzysztofgudowsk: good luck to you
[11:09] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok, i would say it is jammed up somehow
[11:09] <mtholdenss> microphone not working
[11:10] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: where did you obtain this deb?
[11:10] <xixor> thomax: have you tried the alternate install cd for it?
[11:10] <funpop> anyone got a working bluetooth-adapter and is able to control some things with a mobile ?
[11:10] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... the the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic (2.6.17.7-11.1)... firstly i did a 'sudo apt-get linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic" but ive also tried to download the .deb and dpkg it... same result!
[11:11] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: got the .deb-package from packages.ubuntu.com
[11:11] <thomax> xixor: downloading now ;)
[11:11] <mtholdenss> microphone not working :(
[11:11] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok, wanted to make sure you didn't pick up a rouge deb from somewhere.  those are dangerous.
[11:12] <xixor> thomax: I had problems with the live cd as well, would crash everytime I tried to use it.  I actually got it to crash at 3 or 4 different places by the time I was done
[11:12] <tariq> hello
[11:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: nevertheless it screwed up my system :P any ideas?
[11:12] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try sudo apt-get install -f
[11:13] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: that is supposed to fix apt problems
[11:13] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: or does anyone have any idea of where to go for apt-get related help?
[11:13] <tariq> how can use the bitcomet  on ubuntu
[11:13] <thomax> xixor: lol well I'm trying to get it to work since herd 3, but no luck
[11:13] <tariq> ???
[11:13] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: done that a zillion of times! ill give at another shot and pastebin the output!
[11:13] <DinkyDogg> can someone help me install nvidia drivers on my laptop?
[11:13] <pista> tariq, wine?
[11:13] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok
[11:14] <mojo> mtholdenss: could be a bazillion things.. sure it's not muted?  rest of sound work?  mic volume up?
[11:14] <Elrik> I need to find correct drivers for my Wireless network card,, I really want to get Ubuntu to work since I want to use it to learn to program, and I hate windows, but if I don't find any valid drivers and get my network card to work i don't know what to do. I use a 802.11 Wireless USB Adapter,, [Asus, by Canyon I think.] 
[11:14] <mojo> nevermind then... :D
[11:15] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... apt-get install -f told me to run dpkg --configure -a but running that will just lock again at "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic (2.6.17.7-11.1) ...", ive done that a bunch of times too!
[11:15] <amaan> mojo, i tried compiling, recompiling and it still didn't work...any other suggestions?
[11:15] <mojo> Elrik: oohh... that could be a toughie... have not heard that there is great usb wireless adaptor support but it is worth looking into
[11:15] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: so we need to figure out how to get that deb out of apt somehow
[11:16] <stillunknown> Is it considered normal that restricted modules have to be apt-getted manually after a kernel update?
[11:16] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I don't suppose sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-restricted-... works?
[11:16] <Elrik> mojo > Would I need to switch network card you think?
[11:16] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: hmm.... ive tried a purge bot not that exact syntax i believe....
[11:17] <mojo> Elrik: distinctly possible but you should research your present solution a little first... there are also ways to "cheat" using the ndiswrapper which basically lets you use a windows ndis driver in linux
[11:17] <loppa> Hi there, I need some help to install drivers for my graphics card. Anybody?
[11:17] <compwiz18> loppa: what card do you have?
[11:18] <Elrik> Mojo > I tried using the ndiswrapper, i installed the .inf driver file with ndiswrapper but it only said "driver installed" not hardware present or anything like that.
[11:18] <mifa> loppa: which card/
[11:18] <mojo> Elrik: I am not sure though how that will work out with usb
[11:19] <loppa> mifa: I have no idea, I'm on a laptop, and well, I got sick of windows just going down the drain every other weekend.
[11:19] <mojo> Elrik: have you googled up anything on your card with linux in the search terms? (fair question)
[11:19] <loppa> So i need to find that out as a first "quest"
[11:19] <mojo> *er, adaptor
[11:19] <Elrik> mojo > yeah, i did something similar, alot of crap came up.
[11:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... the purge just halted at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..."
[11:20] <compwiz18> loppa: run lspci please
[11:20] <mojo> Elrik: what adaptor is it?
[11:20] <mifa> loppa: you have now no video?
[11:20] <Jowi> loppa, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[11:20] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: suprise!
[11:20] <monzie> hi all
[11:20] <compwiz18> hi
[11:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: not really... :P
[11:20] <monzie> i am using the radeon driver
[11:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: cant i remove it manually somehow?
[11:20] <monzie> composite works really great in kde
[11:21] <kharloss> hi
[11:21] <monzie> but my wallpapers have artificats in them
[11:21] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: that is what im wondering
[11:21] <kharloss> i have an error every time when i use apt-get remove
[11:21] <kharloss> Removing munin ...
[11:21] <kharloss> Setting up sasl2-bin (2.1.19.dfsg1-0.2ubuntu3) ...
[11:21] <monzie> could someone please explain the workaround for it?
[11:21] <mojo> amaan: hmm... it has been a while since i had to manually do alsa configs...
[11:21] <kharloss> Starting SASL Authentication Daemon: (failed).
[11:21] <kharloss> invoke-rc.d: initscript saslauthd, action "start" failed.
[11:21] <kharloss> dpkg: error processing sasl2-bin (--configure):
[11:21] <kharloss>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:21] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: the is /var/apt i think, although I'mnot sure what lives in there
[11:21] <kharloss> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:21] <kharloss>  sasl2-bin
[11:21] <kharloss> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:21] <kharloss> any solution ?
[11:21] <Elrik> mojo > I don't know, all it says is 802.11g Wireless USB Adapter (C) Canyon on the cd and on the actual wireless adapter it says Asus 802.11g 54Mbps, USB 2.0 Model WL-160G
[11:21] <amaan> mojo, you can do it manually?
[11:21] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok
[11:22] <kharloss> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=74681
[11:22] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: (this is potentially dangerous, although I think your situation warrants it)
[11:22] <loppa> mifa: okay, have donw that now, a bunch of information came up, dont quite know which one to pick.
[11:22] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ill take a look in that dir and see what lurks!
[11:22] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sudo mv /var/cache/apt /var/cache/apt2
[11:22] <Jowi> loppa, "lspci | grep -i vga" to see the card
[11:22] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: will move the apt directory somehwere else
[11:22] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ah ok..
[11:22] <mojo> amaan: well, yeah... that is what you were doing with compiling the driver, the module for alsa, configuring alsa to use it, etc.
[11:23] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: so apt-get will need to build a new database?
[11:23] <mojo> amaan: the driver you compiled, it is loading right?  lsmod shows it?
[11:23] <amaan> let me check
[11:24] <mojo> Elrik: ummm lets see what can be found out about it... hey, under windows when you look into the driver details can you learn anything more there?
[11:24] <mojo> Elrik: usually it comes down to the chipset and support for that
[11:24] <amaan> mojo, what should i look for after i enter the command?
[11:24] <mojo> Elrik: but over usb...
[11:24] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I don't know for sure, as I've never done this - but I think if you mv the /var/cache/apt directory to /var/cache/apt2, then mkdir /var/cache/apt, then cd /var/cache/apt, then touch lock then mkdir archives might remove everything
[11:24] <mojo> amaan: what was the name of the module you compiled?
[11:24] <amaan> mojo, how do i find that out?
[11:25] <loppa> jowi: it says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[11:25] <loppa> So now what?
[11:25] <Jowi> loppa, so you should use the "via" driver. it should be the one you're already using.
[11:25] <loppa> Oh really.
[11:26] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok... som im in the apt-directory now... next step is....? i didnt follow!
[11:26] <Jowi> loppa, to verify "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver"
[11:26] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: no problem, was a bit confusing
[11:26] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: make sure you have all apt stuff closed
[11:26] <mifa> loppa: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-via
[11:26] <mifa> loppa: with that command you insall the driver
[11:27] <mifa> nut it is already installed i assume
[11:27] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: no apt-get or dpkg processes are running!
[11:27] <Elrik> Hmm, I think I'll try the other network card I use on the other computer mojo, thanks for the help though
[11:27] <mojo> Elrik: good luck to you
[11:27] <loppa> loppa@loppelap:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i drive
[11:27] <loppa>         Driver          "kbd"
[11:27] <loppa>         Driver          "mouse"
[11:27] <loppa>         Driver          "synaptics"
[11:27] <loppa>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:27] <loppa>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:27] <loppa>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:27] <loppa>         Driver          "vesa"
[11:28] <mojo> amaan: what more specifically was that model again?  the module probl. has snd-something in its name, btw
[11:28] <loppa> mifa: havent installed it by myself, I just smacked Ubuntu in from the cd yesterday.
[11:28] <mifa> loppa: you use vesa as driver
[11:28] <loppa> And well, it lags when i scrolled, so i just assumed it wasnt the correct driver.
[11:28] <mojo> amaan: try lsmod |grep -i snd  and see what it lists
[11:28] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: good.  (use sudo in fornt of all of these commands)
[11:28] <compwiz18> mv lock lock-old
[11:28] <compwiz18> mv pkgcache.bin pkgcache.bin-old
[11:28] <compwiz18> mv srcpkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin-old
[11:28] <compwiz18> mv archives archives-old
[11:28] <compwiz18> mkdir archives
[11:28] <compwiz18> touch lock
[11:29] <amaan> snd_hda_intel          21268  1
[11:29] <amaan> snd_hda_codec         187136  1 snd_hda_intel
[11:29] <amaan> snd_pcm_oss            47360  0
[11:29] <amaan> snd_mixer_oss          19712  1 snd_pcm_oss
[11:29] <amaan> snd_pcm                84612  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[11:29] <amaan> snd_timer              24964  1 snd_pcm
[11:29] <mifa> loppa: backup your xorg.conf and change vesa into via
[11:29] <amaan> snd                    60164  8 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[11:29] <Jowi> loppa, so you're using "vesa" (a generic driver), install the driver as mifa said
[11:29] <amaan> soundcore              11232  1 snd
[11:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: allright!
[11:29] <amaan> snd_page_alloc         11656  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
[11:29] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: good luck
[11:29] <mifa> jowi: i think the driver is already installed by default
[11:29] <mifa> Loppa: but install to be sure..
[11:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ill do this, while in the new apt catalogue (just making sure)
[11:30] <mojo> amaan: snd_hda_intel i think is the one
[11:30] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok
[11:30] <Jowi> mifa, I think so as well. I have a via chipset on one of the computers and it was set up automatically (even in xorg.conf)
[11:30] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok... keep your fingers crossed and saty tuned! ;)
[11:30] <amaan> mojo, ok what does that mean?
[11:30] <loppa> Okay dudes and dudarinos, I'll try something like that, but another prosess is using my.. erhm.. install thing.. so i cant right now, I think. Upgrading some stuff.
[11:31] <iulian_> Hi! I want to install Linux on my notebook. I already have Ubuntu on server. How to install ubuntu with kde to have a more clean instalation? To install ubuntu server and then kde, or directly kubuntu?
[11:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ahh... i think there a problem!
[11:31] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: shoot
[11:31] <mojo> amaan: there is an informative thread here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=506308
[11:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: the mv apt apt2 was supposed to give me a backup?
[11:31] <britt_> hey how do i get PHP to work with apache2? I already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[11:32] <Jowi> loppa, if you notice that it is already installed then simply run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change "vesa" to "via" and restart Xorg
[11:32] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: supposedly
[11:32] <Jowi> loppa, (after your upgrades are done of course)
[11:32] <loppa> Jowi, that didnt tell me much. I'm new to this.
[11:32] <mojo> amaan: i am lookin stuff up, reading, hang on
[11:33] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: because the first new command 'sudo mv lock lock-old' returns a error since there is no lock file/catalog in the "new" apt catalog!
[11:33] <Jowi> loppa, let me know when you're ready to continue and I'll guide you.
[11:33] <compwiz18> ah
[11:33] <mojo> amaan: i remember back several versions ago ubuntu didn't detect both my sound cards (mobo and audigy) and i had to struggle with this, but it's been a while...
[11:33] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: should i do a cp apt2 apt?
[11:33] <mifa> :loppa first -> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-via
[11:33] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sorry, then do [ touch lock ]  [ mkdir archives ]  in the new apt
[11:33] <loppa> So there is a file (xorg.conf) which the information about what driver my card is using, and I should change that?
[11:33] <amaan> mojo, that's okay take your time
[11:33] <amaan> thanks mojo
[11:34] <mojo> amaan: no problemno
[11:34] <mifa> loppa: then cp /etc/X11.xorg.conf ~/corg.conf.backup
[11:34] <mifa> :loppa yes
[11:34] <loppa> mifa: yes, but first the updates have to get done.
[11:34] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: could youe please help me out with the syntax? what command to execute with which arguments?
[11:34] <mifa> :loppa yes
[11:34] <loppa> Theyre installing right now, so should be in a minute.
[11:34] <britt_> hey how do i get PHP to work with apache2? I already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[11:35] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sure, can you run ls and pwd for me first: type (minus the [ and the ] ) [ pwd ]  and [ ls ] 
[11:35] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: and give me the results
[11:35] <loppa> Is there any way for me to play a windows game in linux?
[11:35] <britt_> hey how do i get PHP to work with apache2? I already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[11:35] <maximillan> cedega
[11:35] <n4cht> loppa: wine or cedega.
[11:35] <loppa> While were waiting, I might as well ask.
[11:35] <mifa> loppa: ok, after that -> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change "vesa" to "via" and restart Xorg
[11:35] <mifa> loppa: like jowi said
[11:35] <loppa> n4cht: and what is that?
[11:36] <n4cht> !wine
[11:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:36] <loppa> n4cht: sweet, i'd have to check that out later. thnx. : )
[11:36] <mifa> loppa: restarting Xorg is just pressing ctrl alt del
[11:36] <mifa> loppa: save your work before pressing that
[11:37] <loppa> Still installing.
[11:37] <loppa> DOwnloaded like 222MB with stuff.
[11:38] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: just running 'ls' returns nothing (since the new apt is empty)
[11:38] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: running 'pwd' returns "/car/cache/apt"
[11:38] <whileimhere> !DVD
[11:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:38] <zealot> hi
[11:38] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: great. now run [ sudo mkdir archives ]  and [ sudo touch lock ] 
[11:39] <Hattori> i have to set pureftpd user to be able to delete files created by tomcat, that is run as root, how can i do that?
[11:39] <loppa> mifa: saving my work?
[11:39] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok! nothing returned from those command (which is good :))
[11:39] <loppa> You mean like, get ready for a crash/meltdown?
[11:39] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: yep, now run [ sudo apt-get update ] 
[11:39] <mifa> loppa: like when your have a text editor open, save your document
[11:39] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: and the fun begins :P :P
[11:40] <loppa> Ah, I am writing down a bunch of commands as we speak, to remember them later.
[11:40] <SinesurfR> hi, I was wondering if anyone can direct me to a site where I can ask about finding ways to tweak a program from Australia that is designed to calculate taxes and print out the calculations on the appropriate tax form so I can use it to do the same for taxes in the US
[11:40] <loppa> SHould save that then.
[11:40] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: okeydokey! (says a short prayer)
[11:40] <maximillan> !cedega
[11:40] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:40] <amaan> mojo, the guy in the forum ended up using suse 10.1 to get his sound to work?
[11:41] <mojo> amaan: yeah, i found that forum to be a dead end too...
[11:41] <amaan> oh lol ok
[11:41] <mifa> loppa: good!, if no screen pop up after restarting X you have to copy back your xorg
[11:41] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: it misses the directory apt/archives/partial
[11:41] <mojo> amaan: i was doing some other checking.. i am downloading the tarball from realtek to see what is in their driver packages
[11:41] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: just mkdir it?
[11:41] <compwiz18> ok
[11:41] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG yes
[11:41] <amaan> mojo, ok cool
[11:41] <loppa> mifa: wow, now how do I what?
[11:41] <mifa> loppa: and then restart x again
[11:41] <loppa> first i need to backup it.
[11:42] <SinesurfR> I was wondering if anyone can direct me to a site where I can ask about finding ways to tweak a program from Australia that is designed to calculate taxes and print out the calculations on the appropriate tax form so I can use it to do the same for taxes in the US
[11:42] <mojo> aman, i chose "others" under unix/linux off this site:  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[11:42] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok... just did a mkdir partial in the archives dir, rerunning sudo apt-get update
[11:42] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: good luck
[11:42] <mifa> loppa: yes, "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[11:42] <Hattori> i have to set pureftpd user to be able to delete files created by tomcat, that is run as root, how can i do that?
[11:43] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok... it spit out a lot and then stopped and wants me to run dpkg --configure -a so i guess ill just do that...
[11:43] <loppa> "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf " what does that do?
[11:43] <loppa> open it?
[11:43] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: go ahead
[11:43] <mifa> loppa: cp = copy
[11:43] <amaan> mojo, so did i - the 4.05j version
[11:43] <mifa> loppa:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change "vesa" to "via"
[11:43] <amaan> or f
[11:44] <loppa> I see.
[11:44] <loppa> Me try now like you say. x|
[11:44] <mojo> amaan: yeah, looks like this was a valentines day release.  maybe you'll get some love (lol)
[11:44] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: allright... did the dkpg configure and reexecuted the apt-get update and it went smoothely... im thinking of starting synaptic too see if it detects any half-baked packages in my system...
[11:44] <mifa> loppa: to restore  your backup, switch the places
[11:44] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: if you dont have any better alternatives?
[11:44] <amaan> mojo, lol
[11:44] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sounds good
[11:45] <compwiz18> just _don't_ install that package again :P
[11:45] <mifa> loppa: so cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <mifa> loppa: the fisrt must be your xorg.conf.backup offcourse
[11:45] <loppa> Mifa: uhm, I dont get it, let me try it first now.
[11:46] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... you really think the problem is the package? linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic seems to be pretty commonly installed when installing the ati-drivers from the unofficial ati-wiki...
[11:46] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: good point
[11:46] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  That didnt work
[11:46] <lesshaste> I have just installed xubuntu and couldn't find a normal xchat package, only xchat-gnome.  why is this?
[11:46] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: perhaps try installing something different?
[11:46] <untitled1> how can i install audacious in ubuntu??
[11:46] <Hattori> i have to set pureftpd user to be able to delete files created by tomcat, that is run as root, how can i do that?
[11:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: hmm.... synaptic find the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic package marked for removal... just like it did before...
[11:47] <yurimxpxman> flannel:  after gnome desktop finished intalling I restarted the computer and it said there was a fatal error
[11:47] <yurimxpxman> no screen found or something like that
[11:47] <compwiz18> ok
[11:47] <mojo> amaan: just curious but if you went thru the manual compiling and installing before, did you check alsa config to be sure all the audio was unmuted? cuz lsmod says you're loading a driver
[11:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: im thinking of doing/trying a dpkg remove of it...
[11:47] <untitled1> and how to install fluxbox? ubuntu just won't do that...
[11:47] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try that
[11:47] <loppa> mifa: didnt work that thing with the: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:47] <mifa> loppa: why not?
[11:48] <loppa> cp: missing destination file operand after `/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:48] <amaan> mojo, i set everything to 100% volume
[11:48] <lesshaste> I have just installed xubuntu and couldn't find a normal xchat package, only xchat-gnome.  why is this?
[11:48] <tony22> Quick question: any software way to find out my motherboard model?
[11:48] <mifa> loppa: ok, i explain there are 4 pieces of text in that code
[11:49] <loppa> okay, give it to me.
[11:49] <jpjacobs> tony, ytry lshw
[11:49] <mifa> loppa: first is sudo: super user do next is copy
[11:49] <mifa> loppa: the from where to where
[11:49] <mifa> : so you missed the destination
[11:49] <untitled1> is there a flubox package for ubuntu?? and what about audacious?
[11:49] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: 'sudo dpkg --remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic' hangs at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..." again...
[11:49] <jpjacobs> tony22, and otherwise a screwdriver, and look on the board. it should be printed on it somewhere ;)
[11:49] <loppa> I missed it?
[11:50] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: fudge
[11:50] <hastesaver> lesshaste, have you enabled universe?
[11:50] <Downward> Is it possible to hide the Desktop folder in my /home directory?
[11:50] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: indeed
[11:50] <mifa> loppa: put /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup afeter your command
[11:50] <hastesaver> !info xchat | lesshaste
[11:50] <mojo> amaan: and un-muted ;)
[11:50] <ubotu> lesshaste: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[11:50] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: time for google
[11:50] <lesshaste> hastesaver: ah.. I don't know about that. Does that involve editing sources.list?
[11:50] <tony22> jpjacobs, thanx!
[11:50] <mojo> amaan: lets see i'm reading the driver details a bit and then we'll explore your config
[11:50] <mifa> loppa: like sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[11:50] <loppa> SO then, super user do copy and then from were, that would be /etc/x11/xorg.conf and then choose destination?
[11:50] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: i guess the apt directory didnt contain all installed packages information and databases(?)
[11:50] <amaan> mojo, yea theyre un-muted
[11:50] <loppa> ah, of course, right on.
[11:51] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: apparently not...
[11:51] <hastesaver> lesshaste, yes, but you can also do it from the GUI if you want. wait...
[11:51] <hastesaver> !universe | lesshaste
[11:51] <ubotu> lesshaste: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:51] <amaan> sounds good mojo
[11:51] <loppa> mifa: okay, done!
[11:51] <mifa> loppa: to restore the backup you switch destinations
[11:51] <lesshaste> hastesaver: thanks
[11:51] <mifa> loppa: nice
[11:51] <lesshaste> hastesaver: by the way.. dig the name :)
[11:51] <loppa> mifa: ah, I see.
[11:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: will you continue to help? im at the end of my rope here! dont want to reinstall the complete system because of this!
[11:52] <mifa> loppa: remember that!
[11:52] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: yes I will, but I'm out of ideas
[11:52] <mifa> loppa: now open an text editor with the good file preloaded
[11:52] <mojo> amaan: okay lspci shows the snd_hda_intel which should be the right module... lets see what you have in /proc/asound configs
[11:52] <mifa> loppa: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:52] <loppa> mifa: okay, now you got me again.
[11:53] <loppa> Aha, right on.
[11:53] <untitled> hi, how can i install fluxbox in ubuntu?
[11:53] <tony22> does CK804 Serial ATA Controller mean i can use sata II hd?
[11:53] <mifa> loppa: find the    ' driver "vesa" '
[11:53] <jpjacobs> untitled, tried sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[11:53] <untitled> yes
[11:53] <loppa> mifa, done that now, so now i need to edit vesa to via?
[11:53] <jpjacobs> well, then it should be installed
[11:53] <mifa> Yes!
[11:53] <amaan> mojo, how do i tell you what i have there?
[11:53] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: well...my attempt to see what would happen if I did sudo apt-get remove dpkg failed miserably
[11:53] <untitled> jpjacobs: it tells some crap about dependencies
[11:53] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: don't do that :)
[11:54] <Downward> You have to edit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[11:54] <jpjacobs> untitled, try apt-get update, or review your sources.list
[11:54] <mojo> amaan: cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:54] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: you have edgy?
[11:54] <loppa> mifa: in this part?
[11:54] <loppa> Section "Device"
[11:54] <loppa> 	Identifier	"Generic Video Card"
[11:54] <loppa> 	Driver		"vesa"
[11:54] <loppa> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[11:54] <mifa> loppa: yes
[11:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: whoa.... well.... im grateful that you try out the instruments of doom on your system before i do! ;)
[11:54] <loppa> on it.
[11:54] <Downward> Untitled: Just delete what is there (might want to back it up), then just type fluxbox
[11:54] <untitled> jpjacobs: by the way, can u show me a good sources.list with extra repositories?
[11:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: edgy, yes!
[11:55] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=367682&highlight=dpkg+hang
[11:55] <loppa> mifa: done and done, now save it, and then restart it?
[11:55] <mifa> loppa: wright down on how to restore the backup
[11:55] <mifa> on paper
[11:55] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: same problem, although they haven't reached a solution yet either
[11:55] <amaan> mojo, this is all that came up: 0 snd_hda_intel
[11:55] <mojo> amaan: the /proc directory is actually lots of config info presented as a file system
[11:55] <xenoborg> untitles: what version ubuntu version 're you havin' yourself?
[11:55] <untitled> xenoborg: 6.10 kubuntu
[11:56] <mifa> loppa: you can than just press ctrl alt del, but wait for now
[11:56] <loppa> that would be the cp "file" "destination" we just did, but the other way?
[11:56] <mojo> amaan: okay so it sees that module installed for sound... cat /proc/asound/devices
[11:56] <xenoborg> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[11:56] <mifa> loppa: if no visuals pops up, you have to go to a terminal
[11:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: yeah! exactly the same thing! im gonna watch that one closely!
[11:56] <Downward> Is there a way to hide the Desktop directory?  It is an eye sore.
[11:56] <amaan>   2:        : timer
[11:56] <amaan>   3: [ 0- 1] : digital audio playback
[11:56] <amaan>   4: [ 0- 0] : digital audio playback
[11:56] <amaan>   5: [ 0- 0] : digital audio capture
[11:56] <amaan>   6: [ 0]    : control
[11:57] <mojo> amaan: the "0" in front of the module name means alsa sees it as card 0.  I have two audio devices so my audigy shows up as a second entry, 1
[11:57] <mifa> loppa: ctrl alt f1, login and restore backup,
[11:57] <mojo> amaan: that all looks promising
[11:57] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: perhaps post a message there, so it will get bumped :)
[11:57] <mojo> amaan: you are not getting errors with stuff, just no sound, right?
[11:57] <mifa> loppa: then sudo killall gdm and then sudo gdm will give you your desktop back
[11:57] <amaan> lol so then why isn't it working
[11:57] <amaan> yes
[11:57] <xenoborg> untitled: by the way, if apt-get tells you something 'bout dependencies, y'might wanna try yourself synaptics instead!
[11:57] <mifa> loppa: you get it?
[11:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: just doing that right now! ;)
[11:57] <nikolassoo> jest kto z polski bo potrzebuje pomocy z konfiguraj modemu
[11:58] <lesshaste> I need to install the madwifi driver. I found it in synaptic and installed it but presumably there is something else I need to do to get wireless working. any tips?
[11:58] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: /var/cache/apt/archives is the package cache, configuration files are store elsewhere (/var/lib/dpkg/info, but you should definitly not touch stuff here).
[11:58] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: from ubuntu forums
[11:58] <mifa> loppa: and yes to your previous question
[11:58] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: now to go mess with /var/lib/dpkg/info on my system ;) to see what lives there
[11:58] <amaan> mojo, my device under the sound control shows up as 'Realtek AL 660'
[11:59] <mojo> amaan: haha i was just going to ask you about that
[11:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: i was just wondering if dpkg and apt-get had different directories...
[11:59] <mojo> amaan: but that might be right (?!?)
[11:59] <amaan> lol this is so weird
[11:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: i will stay glued to my screen! :)
[11:59] <mojo> amaan: is there a combo box where you can pick different ones?
[11:59] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: that is one of my complaints about linux, it spews stuff all over the drive, making it easier and harder to find at the same time
[12:00] <piotrek> jak moge zainstalowac jakis program :D
[12:00] <piotrek> na ubunciaku
[12:00] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: easier in that everything is in the same place
[12:00] <amaan> no there is only the one
[12:00] <mojo> amaan: (drop-down list)
[12:00] <mojo> amaan: okay...  hmm...
[12:00] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: harder in that I lack the knowledge to figure out where to look for it
[12:00] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: anyways, i found something useful
[12:00] <lesshaste> how do I get wireless working about installing the madwifi stuff in synaptic?
[12:00] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: 8-)
[12:01] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: if you open /var/lib/apt/extended_states, you get a list of all installed stuff and their states
[12:01] <mojo> amaan: when you run alsamixer -c 0 at the command line does it have the right name for your audio ?
[12:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: not the smiley i was going for... but anyway... you haev my attention!
[12:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ok
[12:01] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: perhaps we could play a little trick on apt?
[12:02] <mifa> loppa: still in and working?
[12:02] <amaan> mojo, i got an error: alsamixer -c 0
[12:02] <amaan> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:0: No such device
[12:02] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: i agree with that... windows keeps everything neatly organized! opening that directory!
[12:02] <mojo> amaan: ooh.
[12:02] <mojo> amaan: errors are good, they are leads
[12:02] <thomax>  does anyone knows where I can see what driver is used for my dvd drive
[12:03] <xenoborg> lspci and modprobe -l
[12:03] <amaan> mojo, well then im glad :P
[12:03] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: should i 'sudo gedit extended_states' ?
[12:04] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: thats what I did. right now I am modifying packages that have no value to me to find out what happens when i change that auto-installed: line
[12:05] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok... im browsing the extended_states while youre at it!
[12:05] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok
[12:06] <rixi> hello
[12:06] <yurimxpxman> you there flannel?
[12:06] <rixi> i've a little problem
[12:06] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... theres a couple of lines that says:
[12:06] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Package: linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:06] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Auto-Installed: 1
[12:06] <yurimxpxman> I have a huge problem
[12:06] <mixandgo> any idea why I get 90% cpu usage when I resize a window ?
[12:06] <OrTigaS> Ubuntu
[12:07] <xenoborg> amaan: what does lspci say?
[12:07] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok
[12:07] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: i'm not sure what that means, but everything in that file appears to be auto-installed: 1
[12:07] <yurimxpxman> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"   What do I do?
[12:07] <yurimxpxman> I am lost
[12:07] <amaan> xenoborg, a lot
[12:07] <rixi> I've installed LiveTeX and uninstalled teTeX, but then I need to install lilypond, which don't work with LiveTeX distibution. So I tried to reinstall teTeX but I can't, it hapenned an erro. SOmeone could help me?
[12:07] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: so i'm wondering where apt stores all its info
[12:08] <mojo> amaan: you said that lspci showed the driver...
[12:08] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: yes... i have no idea of whats next...
[12:08] <amaan> xenoborg, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:08] <Downward> Is it possible to hide the Desktop directory?
[12:08] <OrTigaS> hi! i unmount my Fat32 HD which is can read/write thru ubuntu, now i format it to ntfs. this is my Question how do i mount it again to be read/write?
[12:08] <amaan> mojo, it shows the high def audio by intel driver
[12:08] <yurimxpxman> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"   What do I do?
[12:08] <OrTigaS> is it a long config again?
[12:08] <yurimxpxman> can someone at least point me in some direction?
[12:09] <is_null> yurimxpxman: check /var/log/Xorg* ?
[12:09] <BustenOut> ok i just installed linux and windows but right after i installed linux... i get a missing or corrupt file when trying to boot windows
[12:09] <yurimxpxman> I did.  looked like it was fine
[12:09] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try looking at /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:09] <yurimxpxman> is_null:  it said generic though
[12:10] <yurimxpxman> let me restart
[12:10] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: see if it gives you any useful info
[12:10] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok!
[12:10] <BustenOut> anyone know how to fix?
[12:10] <BustenOut> EMERGANCY
[12:10] <is_null> BustenOut: do you mean that it's a windows problem ?
[12:10] <ikonia> BustenOut: whats the missing or corrupt file
[12:10] <ikonia> is it booting windows - or initialising grub
[12:11] <BustenOut> no windows was fine until linux installed there boot loader
[12:11] <mojo> amaan: right... things that make you go hmmm... let me read some more on the manual steps with the realtek tarball and see if there is a step that might have been missed
[12:11] <yurimxpxman> is_null:  I have to do everything in recovery mode because it is screwed up
[12:11] <tehxed> Hey, I got an issue relating to beryl/ati and Ubuntu
[12:11] <BustenOut> ikonia:boot
[12:11] <rixi> I can't reinstall teTeX, someone could help me?
[12:11] <ikonia> BustenOut: is it windows or grub thats complaining of a missing file
[12:11] <xenoborg> amaan: you should try yourself "sudo alsaconf" if y' ain't having already
[12:11] <is_null> rixi: install from sources ?
[12:11] <BustenOut> windows
[12:11] <amaan> mojo,ok
[12:11] <ikonia> BustenOut: will - its a windows issue as linux does not and cannot touch your windows data
[12:12] <OrTiga1> i'm disconnected
[12:12] <compwiz18> !dpkg
[12:12] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:12] <rixi> is_null: yes
[12:12] <compwiz18> !apt
[12:12] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... basically it says that linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic is half-installed and/or half-configured
[12:12] <BustenOut> but it hast to do with the boot loader that linux set out
[12:12] <compwiz18> ok
[12:12] <piotrek> how i can install program's in ubuntu?
[12:12] <ikonia> BustenOut: can't be - the boot loader doesn't touch windows
[12:12] <is_null> rixi: what do you mean yes please ? do you need help installing tetex from sources ?
[12:12] <OrTiga1> anyone gotr my question?
[12:12] <mojo> amaan: xenoborg has a good suggestion..
[12:12] <ikonia> piotrek: use synaptic
[12:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: alse take a look at http://pastebin.se//9193
[12:13] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: that a dpkg --status for linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[12:13] <mifa> yurimxpxman: restore your backup
[12:13] <yurimxpxman> eh
[12:13] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: pastebin is empty
[12:13] <yurimxpxman> there is no backup that I am aware of
[12:13] <yurimxpxman> I just have server on here
[12:13] <piotrek> how i can logout to root acc?
[12:13] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: oh... ill repaste it then!
[12:13] <yurimxpxman> I wanted a gui
[12:13] <mifa> yurimxpxman: you haven't made one then...
[12:13] <ikonia> piotrek: you don 't - use sudo
[12:13] <ikonia> piotrek: I suggest you read the ubuntu basic docs
[12:13] <mifa> yurimxpxman: what have you done before it broke?
[12:14] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  I just tried to install gnome
[12:14] <Downward> Is it possible to hide or move the Desktop directory?
[12:14] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: http://pastebin.se/9195
[12:14] <poolkey172> Hello anyone know how to read a windows fake raid from linux ? dmraid sees my linux RAID but not my windows RAID
[12:14] <mifa> yurimxpxman: how?
[12:14] <piotrek> sudo su yes?
[12:14] <amaan> mojo, i ran it but theres nothing
[12:14] <mifa> yurimxpxman: and what do you have?
[12:14] <ikonia> poolkey172: not really
[12:14] <yurimxpxman> sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <ikonia> piotrek: no - use sudo instead of becoming root
[12:14] <yurimxpxman> appeared to work but it didnt
[12:14] <amaan> mojo, it takes me to the blue screen
[12:14] <poolkey172> ikonia: is it possible ?
[12:14] <ikonia> piotrek: read the basic ubuntu docs
[12:14] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  I have server
[12:14] <ikonia> poolkey172: yes, but its RUBBISH
[12:15] <mifa> yurimxpxman: you had an server?
[12:15] <mojo> amaan: i don't even seem to have alsaconf on my system ?!?
[12:15] <mifa> yurimxpxman: ok
[12:15] <omeil_> is there any virtual drive software avilable i wanna mount some cd images
[12:15] <amaan> mojo, lol
[12:15] <mifa> yurimxpxman: what is your graphics card driver?
[12:15] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: ok
[12:15] <yurimxpxman> idk
[12:15] <ikonia> omeil_: just mount them
[12:15] <mifa> yurimxpxman: and is that being loade in Xorg.conf
[12:15] <tehxed> Hey, I got an issue relating to beryl/ati and Ubuntu... would it be okay to ask for help in here?
[12:15] <yurimxpxman> the server computer is an old getway for now
[12:16] <ikonia> tehxed: better in #ubuntu-effects
[12:16] <yurimxpxman> gateway*** lol
[12:16] <tehxed> ikonia: No one's there =(
[12:16] <ikonia> tehxed: then wait
[12:16] <tehxed> ikonia: Sorry =(
[12:16] <ikonia> tehxed: or search the forum
[12:16] <yurimxpxman> I dont have the original drivers either
[12:16] <yurimxpxman> it is onboard
[12:16] <yurimxpxman> video
[12:17] <mifa> yurimxpxman: that doesnt matter
[12:17] <mojo> amaan: doing some more checking
[12:17] <mifa> yurimxpxman: lspci | grep -i vga
[12:17] <mifa> that will give you your driver
[12:17] <tehxed> ikonia: Do you know much about the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M?
[12:17] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  I will give it a try then
[12:17] <ikonia> tehxed: not really
[12:17] <amaan> ok mojo
[12:18] <mifa> yurimxpxman: install that driver and change your xorg.conf acccordingly
[12:18] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: so I'm running out of ideas
[12:18] <loppa> mifa> you around still.
[12:18] <tehxed> ikonia: I have tried the forums..and tutorials. I must be doing something horribly wrong I think. I have formatted and re-installed.. fresh install
[12:18] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  thanks for the help.  I will see if I can get it working now
[12:18] <tehxed> ikonia:  So I guess I just wait now
[12:19] <ikonia> tehxed: have you got ati working without beryl
[12:19] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: well... i guess ill just have to watch that thread you sent me! or reinstall the computer :(
[12:19] <mifa> loppa: yes :)
[12:19] <loppa> mifa i fucked up.
[12:19] <mifa> loppa: why?
[12:19] <ikonia> loppa: language !
[12:19] <ikonia> loppa: I don't need to see that
[12:19] <tehxed> ikonia:  Yeah, using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft right now
[12:19] <tehxed> No issues
[12:19] <loppa> so now i\m running from the cd with erhm.. well, things not working.
[12:19] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: one more idea here
[12:20] <ikonia> tehxed: hang out in #ubuntu-effects
[12:20] <tehxed> ikonia: Wouldn't happen to know the command for me to check what version of ati drivers it has, do you?
[12:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: ok!
[12:20] <compwiz18> anyone good at fixing dpkg/apt problems here?
[12:20] <tehxed> ikonia: doing so
[12:20] <sha1sum> does the state of the livecd have any effect on ubiquity's parameters?  in other words, do packages added and removed when booted using the livecd have any effect on the install to hd?
[12:20] <mifa> loppa: what happend?
[12:20] <Gandalf> giorno a tutti!
[12:20] <loppa> mifa I changed vesa to via and rebooted.
[12:20] <sha1sum> compwiz18, what's the prob?
[12:20] <loppa> at that point, things went to.. well.
[12:21] <mifa> loppa: rebooted was not needed
[12:21] <compwiz18> sha1sum: talk to  UbuntuN00B_HBG - I ran out of ideas, they still need help
[12:21] <compwiz18> sha1sum: thank you
[12:21] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, ??? so what's up
[12:21] <sha1sum> compwiz18, umkay
[12:21] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> compwiz18: thanks for your effort!!!!
[12:21] <sha1sum> =] 
[12:21] <MAMSBIGBITCH> Hey everyone i was walking home today when i realized i was fat ugly and still a virgin at 40 ill pay u 200 dollars for fuck with me
[12:21] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: no problem, good luck with it
[12:21] <sha1sum> MAMSBIGBITCH, have you ever been on Springer?
[12:21] <sha1sum> :D
[12:21] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: well... apt-get hangs when trying to install / configure / remove a package!
[12:21] <loppa> mifa aha, but i had to reboot because of upgrades.
[12:22] <MAMSBIGBITCH> haft a dozen times he wont go for me
[12:22] <compwiz18> UbuntuN00B_HBG: i'm going to continue to watch your progress
[12:22] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, does it display any output?
[12:22] <yurimxpxman> hmm
[12:22] <mifa> loppa: ok no problem. Have you restored the backup?
[12:22] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  how do I install this driver?  lol
[12:22] <yurimxpxman> Intel 82845G/GL[brookdale-G] /GE
[12:22] <MAMSBIGBITCH> ill make you very rich as long as i dont kill u
[12:22] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: nope... doesnt return any errors, but just freezes when reaching "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..."
[12:22] <loppa> mifa, well you see, the thing is, the backup was nowere to be found.
[12:23] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: then i need to ctrl-c to stop it and then kill the process
[12:23] <loppa> mifa so> not i havent.
[12:23] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: freezes at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..." when trying to get rid of it!
[12:23] <Ganjalf> hi alllZ
[12:23] <MAMSBIGBITCH> if u like waves come on over i make them just from reaching over to the chicken ...YUM KFC
[12:23] <Ganjalf> I need help :
[12:23] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: purge of force doesnt help!
[12:23] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, what kind of driver?  video is i810
[12:24] <Ganjalf> anyone can help me?
[12:24] <MAMSBIGBITCH> Ganjalf: need help???
[12:24] <Ganjalf> yep
[12:24] <amaan> mojo, maybe i have to do a reboot?
[12:24] <shary> polska
[12:24] <Ganjalf> i've a problem with the kernel compil
[12:24] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  for my video card
[12:24] <MAMSBIGBITCH> come to my place and we can play pin the tail on the donkey
[12:24] <mojo> reboot? what have you changed>
[12:24] <mifa> yurimxpxman: i think the vesa for now will do: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-vesa"
[12:24] <yurimxpxman> k
[12:25] <yurimxpxman> I will give it a try
[12:25] <compwiz18> can anyone tell me how to view samba shares in nautilus?
[12:25] <Moniker42> i just rm'ed the wrong bunch of files there... can i undo it?
[12:25] <mifa> loppa: nowhere to be found?
[12:25] <loppa> well, said it didnt find it.
[12:25] <MAMSBIGBITCH> Ganjalf: come to my place and we can play pin the tail on the donkey
[12:25] <loppa> that the file didnt excist.
[12:25] <amaan> mojo, nothing i don't really know i'm just shooting ideas :P
[12:25] <yurimxpxman> didnt work
[12:25] <Ganjalf> MAMSBIGBITCH: ?
[12:25] <mifa> loppa:  aiai to bad, but not a big problem
[12:25] <mifa> yurimxpxman: why not?
[12:25] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  I have no idea
[12:26] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  says that it was already the newest version
[12:26] <MAMSBIGBITCH> i always chears me up when i see a guy take something reall hard
[12:26] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  it is already installed and not working
[12:26] <loppa> mifa sort of good, now i just need to undo what ive done.
[12:26] <mifa> loppa: do you now where the original xorg.conf is on your hardrives?
[12:26] <candyban__> Can anyone help me setup my system? ... I want to use dmraid + lvm to install my system. I have prepared everything already ... but how can I install ubuntu on it now? (I've used regular dapper to prepare everything and I have feisty alternate
[12:26] <omeil_> so is there any free cd emulation software for linux?
[12:26] <shary> join #sna.gather
[12:26] <mifa> loppa: then just open it again and change via to vesa again
[12:26] <compwiz18> omeil_: use mount
[12:26] <loppa> mifa> no, not at all.
[12:27] <mjr> omeil, cdemu.sf.net
[12:27] <mifa> yurimxpxman: nice
[12:27] <compwiz18> omeil_: sudo mount -o loop /name/of/iso /path/to/mount
[12:27] <mjr> omeil, for simple ISO mounting, sudo mount -o loop... yeah
[12:27] <mifa> yurimxpxman: and what is in etc/X11/xorg.conf as driver?
[12:27] <loppa> mifa need to accsess my harddrive then_
[12:27] <yurimxpxman> 1 sec
[12:27] <loppa> im on a cd now.
[12:27] <candyban__> omeil_: you can try losetup
[12:27] <mjr> but that cdemu can do a bit more stuff yet
[12:27] <MAMSBIGBITCH> "Can anyone help me setup my system? ." YEPPERS ill plug in with me 12 inchh penis whell your at it please reach and reboot me for romance!
[12:27] <mifa> loppa: yes
[12:27] <shary> kto tu mi po polsku
[12:27] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, I have that exact graphics chip on my board
[12:28] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, it doesn't work with the 800x600 I don't believe
[12:28] <Elrik> Ok, I finally managed to get the drivers and all working, now it says wind502u  driver installed, hardware present
[12:28] <sha1sum> but it also required some other stuff
[12:28] <Elrik> what should i do now?
[12:28] <omeil_> im just new :)
[12:28] <sha1sum> lemme check and see
[12:28] <ikonia> omeil_: just mount the cd's
[12:28] <loppa> mifa how do it do that_
[12:28] <mifa> loppa: they are not vissible on your desktop, or in places -> computer?
[12:28] <Elrik> to connect to the internet
[12:28] <Ganjalf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7342/ someone can help me?
[12:28] <loppa> god damnit, this keyboard is another setting.
[12:28] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, have you tried an apt-get remove of the kernel you were trying to install the package for?
[12:28] <mifa> loppa: how many hardisks partitions do you have?
[12:29] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  it is using vesa
[12:29] <loppa> mifa no they are not.
[12:29] <MAMSBIGBITCH> sha1sum: I DONT WORKING IN 800x600 im at leased 1200X1800 min would u like to roll over cowboy!!!!
[12:29] <mifa> yurimxpxman: then you have another problem i guess..
[12:29] <mifa> yurimxpxman: what is the exact error?
[12:29] <loppa> I dont know how many, just installed on the whole drive.
[12:29] <Elrik> I used ndiswrapper to install my wireless network card drivers, and it says driver installed, hardware present, so it
[12:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: dont think so? apt-get remove he kernel... sounds like you want me to uninstall the os-kernel????
[12:29] <candyban__> Anyone familiar with dmraid + lvm?
[12:29] <Elrik> it's working
[12:29] <mifa> loppa: ok you have 1 hardrive?
[12:29] <loppa> so probably, one for cache, one for boot and one for files_
[12:29] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-197515.html <--- find 'restricted-modules' in page
[12:29] <Ganjalf> people this is my problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7342/ anyone can help me?
[12:29] <ikonia> candyban__: yes
[12:29] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, no you will revert to previous
[12:30] <loppa> 1 drive is all, yes.
[12:30] <omeil_> how do i do that?
[12:30] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, kernels stay installed in case you want to use multiples
[12:30] <candyban__> ikonia: Can you give me some pointers on how to install ubuntu on it?
[12:30] <ikonia> omeil_: man the mount command
[12:30] <yurimxpxman> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[12:30] <mifa> loppa: if you typ mifa: in front of the message i can follow you better, please do that
[12:30] <ikonia> candyban__: mdadm and lvm should already be installed
[12:30] <candyban__> ikonia: not mdadm ... dmraid
[12:30] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: grub give me an optional older kernel to boot acutally... is thats related in any way...
[12:30] <omeil_> because i wanna use the image for Cedega
[12:30] <loppa> mifa i dont know where to two dots are. different keyboard setting.
[12:30] <ikonia> candyban__: oooh apologies. Missread. you just need to apt-get it
[12:31] <sha1sum> UbuntuN00B_HBG, what kind of video card do you have?>
[12:31] <loppa> mifa: wait, found it.
[12:31] <mifa> loppa: doesnt matter mifa is enough :)
[12:31] <ikonia> omeil_: I've told you what to do
[12:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: ati x800xt
[12:31] <mifa> loppa: now u are yellow :)
[12:31] <BustenOut> so i heard your looken to get layed still a 90 old virgin ay GOD michelle jackson!!!! stop playijn with little boys
[12:31] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[12:31] <loppa> mifa: okay, now we\re on that.
[12:31] <ikonia> BustenOut: please be quiet - thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: followed the installation procedure from the unofficial ati-wiki when this happened!
[12:31] <omeil_> oh sorry lol the xchat isn't sending everything im saying lol /path/to/mount
[12:31] <mifa> yurimxpxman: and the the output would be good
[12:31] <candyban__> ikonia: The regular installer won't recognize the volumes I have created (manually)
[12:31] <MAMSBIGBITCH> ill so u my ubuntu
[12:31] <omeil_> i don't get the /path/to/mount part
[12:31] <MAMSBIGBITCH> show*
[12:31] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay I'm looking now.. ;) sorry..
[12:32] <mifa> loppa typ "mount" in terminal
[12:32] <loppa> mifa: but now for the part wereas i get my vie to vesa again.
[12:32] <ikonia> candyban__: any error ?
[12:32] <mifa> loppa: do you see any of your hardrives?
[12:32] <Elrik> Can somebody please tell me how to connect to the internet with my wireless network card 802.11g Asus, i installed it with ndiswrapper, and it says driver installed, hardware present when i type sudo ndiswrapper -l, still don't know how to connect to the internet with that tho
[12:32] <MAMSBIGBITCH> cover over and ill show u a longhorn linux... i calling 12 around...
[12:32] <ikonia> !ndiswrapper >elrik
[12:32] <compwiz18> Elrik: I suggest you pick up a wireless network manager somewhere
[12:32] <davidwinter> is there a way I can disable the floppy drive during the install of Ubuntu?
[12:32] <ikonia> MAMSBIGBITCH: do you have any ubuntu question/comment
[12:32] <candyban__> ikonia: No ... it won't recognize the lvm volumes ... When I use the dmraid device directly I (recognized by the installer) do get errors when trying to format
[12:33] <ikonia> davidwinter: why do you need to that
[12:33] <loppa> mifa: no,  not really
[12:33] <davidwinter> my laptop doesn't have a floppy drive, but it's trying to access it and the install hangs
[12:33] <compwiz18> !network-manager > elrik
[12:33] <mifa> loppa: to bad
[12:33] <ikonia> davidwinter: the installed shouldn't try to access it
[12:33] <ikonia> candyban__: don't use use dmraid - then lvm
[12:33] <loppa> mifa: i\m screwed now, right_
[12:33] <ikonia> you can't raid lvm volumes
[12:33] <mifa> loppa: we will try. Have you sata or old pata disks?
[12:33] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  the log file is no longer there
[12:33] <MAMSBIGBITCH>  is there a way I can disable the floppy drive during the install of Ubuntu?::: floppy drive what is that all i know is i use it to place my condom and lube
[12:33] <ikonia> !ops
[12:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:33] <mifa> loppa no defitnley not
[12:33] <loppa> mifa: its a laptop, so ide i guess.
[12:33] <elkbuntu> ikonia, details please?
[12:34] <davidwinter> ikonia: is fd0 the floppy drive?
[12:34] <loppa> mifa: pata in other words.
[12:34] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  it was there 2 minutes ago but is no saying that it is not there.  I used less Xorg.0.log and got nothing
[12:34] <candyban__> ikonia: the problem is that I would like to keep dmraid because there is a windows partition (RAID 1) ...
[12:34] <ikonia> elkbuntu: MAMSBIGBITCH is trolling, and using bad/offensive language, talking about condoms and lube
[12:34] <yurimxpxman> oops
[12:34] <yurimxpxman> I am stupid
[12:34] <candyban__> ikonia: lvm I don't care about ...
[12:34] <ikonia> davidwinter: yes, spot on
[12:34] <MAMSBIGBITCH> GOD IM HORNY ikonia i drank that last week it had a bad after tast
[12:34] <yurimxpxman> nope
[12:34] <ikonia> MAMSBIGBITCH: bye
[12:34] <mifa> loppa: good.  we now are going to make directorys where we are going go place the harddisk
[12:34] <ikonia> thanks
[12:35] <compwiz18> thank you. he was being an idiot.
[12:35] <ikonia> candyban__: not certain to be honest
[12:35] <loppa> mifa: okay, guide me oh holy light.
[12:35] <mifa> loppa: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[12:35] <elkbuntu> ikonia, next time, do !ops | fingerpointing details
[12:35] <elkbuntu> ikonia, makes it alot quicker
[12:35] <candyban__> ikonia: I would prefer mdadm, but then I'm afraid the windows raid driver might kill the linux partition
[12:35] <ikonia> elkbuntu: understood
[12:35] <mifa> loppa: and also for 2 3 4 5 6 7
[12:35] <omeil_> sudo mount -o look /media/sda5/Downloads/[PC] /[Games] /[CD-Images] /Halo- Combat Evolved/flt-halo.bin /mnt/cd1
[12:35] <ikonia> candyban__: if your mdadm'ing a non hardware raid disk  you'll be fine
[12:35] <omeil_> does that look right?
[12:35] <mifa> yurimxpxman: without error message i cant say..
[12:36] <ikonia> omeil_: NO
[12:36] <yurimxpxman> that was the error message
[12:36] <yurimxpxman> "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[12:36] <loppa> mifa: for harddrive 1 to 7_
[12:36] <yurimxpxman> that is all that it was
[12:36] <mojo> amaan: what was that error you were getting?
[12:36] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: you need to a.) look at the error log b.) reconfigure X
[12:36] <omeil_> don't have to yell -_-
[12:36] <candyban__> ikonia: For windows it'll look like hardware raid ...
[12:36] <ikonia> omeil_: typo - hit caps
[12:36] <omeil_> lol thought so :D
[12:36] <mifa> loppa: no for hardrive 1 = HD a and partitons up to 7
[12:36] <ikonia> candyban__: don't install linux on any fake raid hardware
[12:36] <omeil_> im just not familiar with terminal mounting :)
[12:36] <ikonia> omeil_: man mount
[12:37] <davidwinter> it gets up to "Detecting disks and other hardware" then hangs. Doing Alt + F4 I can see: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[12:37] <loppa> mifa: so: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda2,3,4,5,6,7
[12:37] <mifa> yurimxpxman: now that is only a message something went wrong, not what went wrong
[12:37] <davidwinter> and that just keeps looping, the same error
[12:37] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: im reading through the http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-197515.html and the restricted modules part but im not sure what to look for?
[12:37] <davidwinter> it's trying to access the floppy? :/ and I need to disable it for the install
[12:38] <mifa> loppa: no for every number a new command
[12:38] <yurimxpxman> hmm
[12:38] <loppa> mifa: figured that, but on it now.
[12:38] <mifa> loppa: ok
[12:38] <candyban__> ikonia: It has 2x 320G disks ... it HAS to run windows (not for me) ... They are prepared to give Linux a try ... I've set 19 GB aside for Linux ... and I've installed the whole thing before manually (debootstrap ...)
[12:38] <candyban__> until I hosed it with an upgrade
[12:38] <mojo> amaan: /join #alsa
[12:38] <yurimxpxman> mifa:  I just found out that the nvidia driver is what I need
[12:38] <yurimxpxman> how do I install it
[12:38] <loppa> mifa: done! now what_
[12:39] <Hattori> how to change the group of an user?
[12:39] <mifa> yurimxpxman: then install that one :)
[12:39] <yurimxpxman> idk how
[12:39] <ikonia> candyban__: don't do it
[12:39] <ikonia> candyban__: just don't put linux on fakeraid
[12:39] <mifa> loppa: no we put the parttions on the good places (it is called mounting)
[12:39] <Subhuman> Hattori, goto system, admin, then "users and groups"
[12:39] <ikonia> !nvidia >yurimxpxman
[12:39] <candyban__> ikonia: why ?
[12:39] <ikonia> candyban__: VERY poor support
[12:39] <loppa> mifa: my god, well give it to me.
[12:39] <Hattori> Subhuman: anything from shell?
[12:40] <mifa> loppa: sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[12:40] <omeil_> ikonia can u show me an example of a iso mount?
[12:40] <Subhuman> Hattori, yeah "usermod -g <group> <username>"
[12:40] <ikonia> omeil_: sorry not at the moment, can't be bothered man'ing - you have the man page
[12:40] <Hattori> Subhuman: ok, it will switch or add?
[12:40] <mojo> amaan: hmm.. nobody responding in #alsa channel...
[12:40] <Subhuman> Hattori, well what do you want to do, add?
[12:40] <space_ninja> hi
[12:40] <Hattori> Subhuman: ya
[12:40] <mifa> loppa: first thus sudo , then mount with option -t = type automatic and then where to where
[12:40] <omeil_> thats one big page lo:D
[12:40] <loppa> mifa: with all 7_
[12:40] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, you're using an intel 82845
[12:40] <mifa> loppa: just like copy
[12:40] <ikonia> omeil_: not really
[12:40] <mifa> loppa yes
[12:40] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, why would you need an nvidia driver?>
[12:41] <compwiz18> anyone know if i can view windows shares in nautilus?
[12:41] <loppa> i cant find my questionmark. :(
[12:41] <space_ninja> I don't know where to install my programs, is the main app add/remove?
[12:41] <candyban__> ikonia: so ... what do you suggest? ... I don't put Linux on the disk at all? ... or I use mdadm and hope that the windows driver won't touch the md partitions?
[12:41] <yurimxpxman> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/62042-display-problem.html
[12:41] <mifa> loppa: change numbers offcourse
[12:41] <Subhuman> Hattori, well its usermod  -a -G <group> <username>
[12:41] <loppa> mifa: both places_
[12:41] <Hattori> ok thx
[12:41] <ikonia> candyban__: un-raid it, as using windows with mdadm = impossible and using linux on fake raid = poor
[12:41] <mifa> loppa yes
[12:42] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: are you using an nvidia card yes or no
[12:42] <mifa> loppa: do you get errors?
[12:42] <yurimxpxman> no
[12:42] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: so why did you say you want to use nvidia ?
[12:42] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay well it can't hurt to try
[12:42] <loppa> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:42] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, but I don't think that's right
[12:42] <loppa> mifa: yah, got it on number 2.
[12:42] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, do you have a Dell?>
[12:43] <yurimxpxman> no
[12:43] <mojo> amaan: you still there?
[12:43] <mifa> loppa: ok try also with 3 end up
[12:43] <sha1sum> okay cuz they pack alot of theirs with that chipset
[12:43] <mifa> loppa yu have maybe more
[12:43] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  it is an old gateway
[12:43] <sha1sum> gotcha
[12:44] <davidwinter> is there anyway to disable the installer from detecting a floppy drive?
[12:44] <ikonia> davidwinter: it shouldn't be using it
[12:44] <davidwinter> ikonia: but the log says it is
[12:44] <ikonia> davidwinter: at what point does it want it
[12:44] <loppa> mifa: okay, 3,4,6,7 doesnt excist.
[12:44] <candyban__> ikonia: The disks need to be mirrored ... so breaking the raid is not a real option ...
[12:44] <yurimxpxman> I cant figure out how to install the nvidia driver
[12:44] <ikonia> candyban__: then I wouldn't put linux on it
[12:44] <yurimxpxman> I am in text mode
[12:44] <ikonia> candyban__: I'd buy an additional disk
[12:44] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: why are you installing nvidia when you don't have an nvidia card
[12:45] <yurimxpxman> I cant follow the instructions that are on that page
[12:45] <davidwinter> ikonia: it gets up to "Detecting disks and other hardware" then hangs. Doing Alt + F4 I can see: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[12:45] <mifa> loppa: ok, and now "mount"
[12:45] <yurimxpxman> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/62042-display-problem.html
[12:45] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: but you don't have nvidia
[12:45] <loppa> mifa: number 1 worked, number to had to be specified as to what filesystem type, and 5 was swapspace
[12:45] <mifa> loppa do you see them being mounted?
[12:45] <ikonia> davidwinter: it should just pass on from that
[12:45] <davidwinter> ikonia: it's repeated that error 6 times so far
[12:45] <mifa> loppa: nice
[12:45] <gdb> davidwinter: Is there a floppy in the drive?
[12:46] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  what driver are you using?
[12:46] <candyban__> ikonia: The additional problem is that the motherboard only has the RAID controller (intel ich7r) and a marvel sata controller (which is not recognized)
[12:46] <davidwinter> gdb: there is no floppy drive
[12:46] <mifa> now you can open them whit nautilus and see if /etc/X11 is on it
[12:46] <loppa> mifa: does this mean mounted_ unionfs on / type unionfs (rw)
[12:46] <loppa> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[12:46] <loppa> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[12:46] <loppa> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[12:46] <loppa> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:46] <loppa> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[12:46] <ikonia> candyban__: the marvel should be
[12:46] <loppa> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:46] <gdb> davidwinter: Ah, I get it.  There is no physical hardware there.
[12:46] <loppa> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:46] <loppa> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[12:46] <loppa> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[12:46] <ikonia> davidwinter: any usb cards
[12:46] <loppa> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[12:46] <ikonia> loppa: stop
[12:46] <davidwinter> gdb: exactly
[12:46] <loppa> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type ext3 (rw)
[12:46] <ikonia> stop
[12:46] <mifa> loppa that one
[12:46] <davidwinter> ikonia: the only USB thing I have is the mouse plugged in
[12:46] <fab07> bonjour
[12:46] <ikonia> davidwinter: how strange
[12:46] <loppa> mifa: so what now_
[12:46] <mifa> loppa you just did that!
[12:46] <fab07> je suis tout nouveau sur linux
[12:46] <ikonia> !fr >fab07
[12:46] <loppa> mifa: i just did what_
[12:47] <gdb> davidwinter: Do you have a floppy drive set up in BIOS?  Just a shot in the dark, perhaps there is one setup there so Linux is expecting to see one.
[12:47] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, I am using the i810
[12:47] <mifa> loppa: mounted your hardrive on /mnt/hda1
[12:47] <yurimxpxman> how do I do that?
[12:47] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, but check out this website... if I would have known about it then I probably would have used this: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html
[12:47] <mifa> loppa that is what the last line said
[12:47] <davidwinter> gdb: possibly. But I can't access the password, it has some damn admin password set that my aunt doesn't know
[12:47] <loppa> mifa: okay, beats me. But whats noext_
[12:47] <mifa> loppa :D
[12:47] <mifa> loppa open xorg.conf :)
[12:47] <loppa> how_
[12:47] <candyban__> ikonia: yet it did not recognize anything I've attached to it ... (in lspci it says Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 6141 (rev 01)
[12:48] <ikonia> candyban__: thats - fine - it should see it as a scsi disk
[12:48] <mifa> loppa: you must now that by now, but i will tell
[12:48] <candyban__> ikonia: Yet nothing was registered in /proc/scsi/scsi
[12:48] <loppa> mifa: i forget easily.
[12:48] <ikonia> candyban__: check if you have /dev/sda or anything like that
[12:48] <Downward> Is there a way to hide the Desktop directory?
[12:48] <mifa> loppa: try to remember
[12:48] <mifa> loppa: sudo gedit /mnt/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:49] <ikonia> Downward: why ?
[12:49] <loppa> sudo gedit etc_x11>xorg.conf _
[12:49] <mifa> loppa: do you get what the commad do?
[12:49] <Downward> Because I don't like it.
[12:49] <candyban__> ikonia: It was NOT recognized ... (trust me on this one) ...
[12:49] <ikonia> Downward: what ??
[12:49] <loppa> if i could just find my dots, spaces and slashes.
[12:49] <davidwinter> ikonia: gdb: the error has passed, now, it's  skipped it... moving on...
[12:49] <candyban__> ikonia: nothing in dmesg either
[12:49] <ikonia> candyban__: then your out of luck (even though I'm happy using marvel)
[12:49] <mifa> loppa: it is now on /mnt/hda1
[12:49] <Downward> I don't put icons on the desktop.  It is an annoyance.
[12:49] <sha1sum> okay well here's _MY_ question, hehe:  I've installed herd4 of feisty successfully... what I would like to know, though, is if changing packages installed while using the livecd has any effect on the packages installed using ubiquity
[12:49] <sha1sum> ?
[12:49] <Rprp>   Bam-Bam Bbking ChanServ ConnectServ Duiv Eggdrop GameServ Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Roconda Rprp` Scusio Wesley
[12:49] <ikonia> davidwinter: perfect
[12:49] <ikonia> Downward: its used for more the icons
[12:49] <Flannel> sha1sum: nope
[12:50] <omeil_> umm isn't this right ? mount -o loop -t iso9660 /media/sda5/Downloads/[PC] /[Games] /[CD-Images] /game/something.iso /mnt/
[12:50] <loppa> mifa: super user does edit with textfile on xorg.conf_
[12:50] <Downward> Alright.  Well I want to hide it either way.
[12:50] <sha1sum> Flannel, is there an equivalent of "priority=medium" in ubiquity?
[12:50] <ikonia> sha1sum: you'll get better support in #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <mifa> loppa yes !
[12:50] <Flannel> sha1sum: ubiquity just copies the image to the disk
[12:50] <loppa> damn im great.
[12:50] <loppa> now lets try it then.
[12:50] <ikonia> Downward: change the permissions on it so you can't go into it, it won't hide it though
[12:50] <sha1sum> ikonia, damn I couldn't remember the chan hehe I used #ubuntu-devel
[12:50] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sha1sum: any ideas of how to fix my apt-get problem?
[12:50] <mifa> loppa: and see where the xorg.conf file is everytime
[12:50] <ikonia> loppa: trust me - you are not great
[12:51] <Downward> I just don't like the file.  It's an eye sore.
[12:51] <mifa> loppa: that important to!
[12:51] <fab07> ouh francais comment on fait
[12:51] <Downward> That is the problem.
[12:51] <ikonia> Downward: delete it then
[12:51] <Flannel> sha1sum: Installation is the same for both, this is a fine channel.
[12:51] <Downward> It will just regenerate.
[12:51] <sha1sum> Flannel, so I'm guessing that the minimal install is a little larger heh
[12:51] <ikonia> !fr >fab07
[12:51] <Downward> I believe.
[12:51] <Flannel> sha1sum: eh? what?
[12:51] <ikonia> Downward: because its needed
[12:51] <fab07> oui
[12:51] <sha1sum> Flannel, (than usual)
[12:51] <sha1sum> in previous releases
[12:51] <fab07> ubuntu.fr
[12:51] <ikonia> !fr >fab07
[12:51] <elwario91> hello
[12:51] <Flannel> sha1sum: why would minimal be larger?
[12:52] <loppa> mifa: well, done it and then opened it.
[12:52] <loppa> and then changed via to vesa.
[12:52] <loppa> now what_
[12:52] <loppa> mifa:
[12:52] <elwario91> Is it normal that when I do the uninstall command beofre installing the nvidia driver i have to download taht? linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic
[12:52] <elwario91> ?
[12:52] <ikonia> elwario91: yes
[12:52] <elwario91> why?
[12:52] <sha1sum> Flannel, nevermind I phrased the question wrong... I was basically thinking that there was a smaller minimal installation available.  Anyway, is feisty also going to support the debian-installer or not?
[12:52] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  how in the world do I install this?
[12:52] <ikonia> elwario91: because thats the nvidia altered kernel
[12:52] <mifa> loppa: if that was your problem, you can reboot again and see what happens
[12:52] <Flannel> !minimal | sha1sum
[12:52] <omeil_> umm how do i become root?
[12:52] <elwario91> In previous installs I didn't have to download that
[12:52] <ubotu> sha1sum: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:52] <Downward> Hm.  Moving the file made it regenerate.  But deleting it may have worked.  If I crash next time I try to run Gnome, I will know why. :-P
[12:52] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay try the i810 driver first
[12:52] <Flannel> !sudo | omeil_
[12:52] <ubotu> omeil_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:52] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: you've been sent a link
[12:53] <omeil_> oh
[12:53] <gdb> davidwinter: This is interesting is so much as there is no way to tell the floppy drive that you do not, in fact, have a floppy disk drive.
[12:53] <mifa> loppa: if that is not the problem, remember the error
[12:53] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[12:53] <gdb> er the floppy driver
[12:53] <mifa> and com back here
[12:53] <Flannel> sha1sum: Of course.  Alternate CD has the debian installer (with packages), minimal CD is debian installer (without packages)
[12:53] <ikonia> gdb: I was surprised too
[12:53] <elwario91> that : sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:53] <Downward> Nope.  It reappeared. :P
[12:53] <yurimxpxman> k
[12:53] <ikonia> Downward: because its needed
[12:53] <sha1sum> Flannel, nice :D thanks
[12:53] <Downward> I know there is a way to do it though.
[12:53] <gdb> davidwinter: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/floppy.txt <-- note the lack of any way to tell the driver you don't have the hardware.
[12:53] <snille> Anyone: What is the best alternative to Total Commander in Ubuntu?
[12:53] <space_ninja> which is the best irc client you think?
[12:53] <Flannel> sha1sum: they'll both download updated packages from the interblags during install though.
[12:53] <loppa> mifa: where do i see the error_
[12:53] <Downward> You have to change something in Gnome's source, I just don't know what.
[12:54] <ikonia> space_ninja: thats just your opinion
[12:54] <gdb> ikonia: I'm wondering if I should sumbit a bug requesting a floppy=none option or something.
[12:54] <riich00> hi all
[12:54] <davidwinter> gdb: I think it's ok now, I managed to get passed that stage
[12:54] <ikonia> Downward: gnome is pre-compiled - so you can't change the source
[12:54] <Downward> I can have it just regenerate as a hidden folder.
[12:54] <davidwinter> though now I can't get it to detect the hard-drive.
[12:54] <sha1sum> Flannel, I just don't like the whole "pre-configured feel" of ubiquity for some reason, even tho I think it will be great for entry-level
[12:54] <mifa> loppa: you will see, it is the last line often
[12:54] <space_ninja> ikonia, well I can't find anything I like
[12:54] <Downward> Someone said there is a way.
[12:54] <Downward> Hm.
[12:54] <loppa> ill try it then.
[12:54] <ikonia> space_ninja: so - me telling you what I like won't help
[12:54] <Downward> Alright.  Well, thanks anyways.
[12:54] <space_ninja> ikonia, which one are you using?
[12:55] <ikonia> space_ninja: doesn't matter
[12:55] <mifa> loppa: i have to eat something now, so i will be gone for a while
[12:55] <space_ninja> lol
[12:55] <riich00> need help with network manager- can't install from add/remove programs
[12:55] <sha1sum> Flannel, I'm a straight debian user if you take 'most time spent' into account
[12:55] <mifa> loppa good luck and i will be here after some time
[12:55] <davidwinter> because I can't change the boot order of the laptop, the hard-drive I can just pull out of the side... this means that it skips over and tries to boot to the CD-ROM (which is what I want)... but then, during the install (when I slide the hard-drive back in) it doesn't detect it and I can't format it. Is there a way to get the laptop to detect the hard-drive is back in and present?
[12:55] <ikonia> riich00: how is adding/removing programs anything to do with network manager
[12:55] <space_ninja> Maybe I already tried it
[12:55] <sha1sum> Flannel, so I'm all about as many options as I can get hehe even if I leave them at default
[12:55] <ikonia> !irc >space_ninja
[12:55] <yurimxpxman> k
[12:56] <gdb> davidwinter: Is the hard disk currently bootable?
[12:56] <davidwinter> if I don't pull the hard-drive out, it boots straight into Windows ME and I can't get to the Ubuntu installer on the CD
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  what do I do now?
[12:56] <Flannel> sha1sum: yeah, well, most people who want to just install prefer the alt CD anyway, not having to boot first, etc.  Alt/Minimal CD have a few install options (full desktop, CLI only), but I don't believe ubiquity is less optionful (except in LVM, etc), assuming you're doing a full desktop install
[12:56] <davidwinter> gdb: yes, it boots to Windows ME
[12:56] <ikonia> yurimxpxman: you've been sent a link
[12:56] <Flannel> davidwinter: you need to change your boot priority in your BIOS
[12:56] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay now use an editor (if you don't know what to use, use gedit) to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <gdb> davidwinter: And is this an OS installation that you intend to keep?
[12:56] <thingy> davidwinter, umm why cant you  change the boot order of the laptop? whats the make/model...is it a legacy free laptop? in which case have you tried holding down the "C" key during bios post to boot from the cdrom?
[12:56] <davidwinter> Flannel: I can't - we don't know the BIOS password to change the order :(
[12:56] <ikonia> davidwinter: then its game over
[12:56] <Flannel> davidwinter: Yank the CMOS battery?
[12:56] <davidwinter> gdb: I want to remove Windows ME and only have Ubuntu
[12:57] <gdb> thingy: Because BIOS is password protected with a password neither he nor the owner of the laptop knows.
[12:57] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I am in nano...  what am I editing?
[12:57] <riich00> ikonia: ubuntu doco advises to use add/remove network manager as it's not installed. I select it and get "Network Manager cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."
[12:57] <davidwinter> thingy: Dell Latitude D266XT
[12:57] <davidwinter> Flannel: tried the CMOS battery, no luck
[12:57] <ikonia> riich00: what hardware are you running
[12:57] <Flannel> davidwinter: what about the jumper?
[12:57] <ikonia> davidwinter: then its game over
[12:57] <davidwinter> Flannel: appears as though the Dell laptop I have has no effect if you remove the battery. the passwoord is stored on some special chip
[12:57] <omeil_> !iso
[12:57] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[12:58] <sha1sum> Flannel, okay.  Never have done an Ubuntu install, but I was looking at ways to "complicate" (I guess would be the word) the install, and debian-installer run with the "priority=low" or "medium" boot options looked promising for more customization
[12:58] <riich00> centrino duo 1.83, 1 gb ram ati video
[12:58] <Flannel> davidwinter: call Dell tech support.  Guarenteed there's a way, to protect joe user from forgetting.
[12:58] <sha1sum> but never saw any actual listings
[12:58] <thingy> davidwinter, http://www.tech-faq.com/dell-bios-password.shtml <--- see the utility to calculate the password from the service tag!
[12:58] <ikonia> riich00: are you using the 64 bit version ?
[12:58] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, find the 'Section "Device"' line
[12:58] <riich00> no...
[12:58] <davidwinter> ikonia: what I need to try and do is try and stop windows from booting so that it uses the CD-ROM to boot
[12:58] <davidwinter> thingy: I've tried that password thing... doesn't work
[12:58] <gdb> davidwinter: It may not work (as in it's a shot in the dark) but you may render Windows unbootable from inside the OS.  (creative use of attrib).  If the hard disk is no longer bootable, then the system should fall back to the CD.  However, it may be more useful (and safer) to look for documentation online for the laptop and see if there is some method to recover access to the BIOS.
[12:58] <ikonia> davidwinter: take the hard disk out
[12:58] <Flannel> sha1sum: I suppose you can enable "expert" mode on alternate CD.  But really, there's... not really any benefit to doing so.  You'll just defer your OS installation
[12:58] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I am there
[12:58] <elwario91> re
[12:59] <elwario91> I have a question
[12:59] <ikonia> ask it then
[12:59] <sha1sum> Flannel, gotcha... good to know
[12:59] <elwario91> yes w8
[12:59] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay what does the 'Driver' line indicate?
[12:59] <yurimxpxman> vesa
[12:59] <davidwinter> ikonia: I've taken the hard-disk out. I can then boot to CD
[12:59] <elwario91> when I do the command to remove traces of nvidia driver
[12:59] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, actually if you can pastebin the whole file for me so I can take a look
[12:59] <ikonia> davidwinter: great
[12:59] <elwario91> it downloads this:
[12:59] <sha1sum> ?
[12:59] <Flannel> sha1sum: any config you can do there, would probably be better served after installation (well, unless you need to specify hardware parameters to get it to work)
[12:59] <yurimxpxman> sha!sum
[12:59] <elwario91> linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic 2.6.17.1-11.35
[12:59] <davidwinter> ikonia: but when it comes to the stage in the install to reformat the drive, it's not detected (when it goes back in)
[12:59] <yurimxpxman> oops
[12:59] <ikonia> elwario91: because your removing the nvidia kernel - so it needs something to boot
[12:59] <elwario91> but this is my kernel : 2.6.17-10-generic
[01:00] <ikonia> davidwinter: if you can't change the boot order - its game over
[01:00] <riich00> ikonia: any ideas ?
[01:00] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I can't...  I am on using vista on my laptop and running ubuntu in text mode on my desktop
[01:00] <ikonia> davidwinter: unless you boot into windows and trash the install do it won't work
[01:00] <elwario91> ok
[01:00] <HiP_P> i keep get an error 2 on bzip2 on an apt-get update
[01:00] <elwario91> linux-image is a newer kernel?
[01:00] <pecisk> hi people, does anyone knows VNC client which would support scaling as Windows/OS X Enterprise versions does?
[01:00] <davidwinter> ikonia: any recommendations on how to do that? :p
[01:00] <ikonia> riich00: are you using the 64bit version
[01:00] <sha1sum> Flannel, actually feisty detected everything perfectly on a somewhat-new laptop (Sony VAIO VGN-N130G) -- even found the drivers for the control device and other sony-specifics)
[01:00] <ikonia> davidwinter: not really
[01:00] <kenthomson> You have been hit by a smooth criminal!
[01:00] <riich00> no I'm not, is this the problem ?
[01:00] <HiP_P> damn
[01:01] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, you can't boot into ubuntu even in text mode?
[01:01] <ikonia> elwario91: yes its newer than the nvidiia kernel
[01:01] <ikonia> riich00: no - thats fine
[01:01] <tehxed> Hey, could someone check my sources.list and tell me if my multiverse and universe repositores are enabled? http://pastebin.ca/370246
[01:01] <yurimxpxman> I am in text mode
[01:01] <elwario91> but nvidia isn't installed
[01:01] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, and what about safe graphics mode?
[01:01] <ikonia> tehxed: just use the sources editor
[01:01] <omeil_> !unmount
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <ikonia> elwario91: then why are you trying to remove nvidia
[01:01] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I get no gui at all
[01:01] <Flannel> sha1sum: right. They're pretty good at doing that
[01:01] <omeil_> !mount
[01:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:01] <gdb> davidwinter: dir /a:hsr (IIRC), then attrib -s io.sys boot.ini, then del them
[01:01] <davidwinter> anyone else? How can I prevent Windows ME from booting?
[01:01] <gdb> something like that
[01:01] <HiP_P> !umonut @ omeil
[01:01] <tehxed> ikonia: You lost me
[01:01] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I am using server and trying to set up gnome on it
[01:01] <elwario91> wiki -> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/nvidia.run
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umonut @ omeil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Flannel> davidwinter: try the password "dell"
[01:01] <gdb> if you had linux running it would be easy ;-)
[01:01] <ikonia> davidwinter: join #windows
[01:01] <StoneNote> !umount | omeil_
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <davidwinter> Flannel: tried that password
[01:01] <gdb> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[01:01] <omeil_> theres nothing about it 0_o
[01:02] <HiP_P> oh
[01:02] <gdb> that would blow away the MBR
[01:02] <elwario91> they says that I have to run that : sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-common sudo rm /etc/init.d/nvidia-*
[01:02] <ikonia> tehxed: undr system ---> admin ---> software properties - there is a gui - yes it
[01:02] <gdb> rendering the disk unbootable
[01:02] <loppa> mifa: hey, it worked. : D
[01:02] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay so the system we're talking about
[01:02] <riich00> ikonia: I want to run my wireless. that's why I'm trying to install network amanger
[01:02] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, that's all i need to know
[01:02] <Flannel> davidwinter: apparently if you call dell, with the rev number, they'll be able to give you the master password
[01:02] <HiP_P> umount device
[01:02] <mifa> loppa: nice :)
[01:02] <ikonia> riich00: for some reason it thinks your not using 86
[01:02] <ikonia> x86
[01:02] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, you're on it locally, in text-mode, right?
[01:02] <omeil_> oh
[01:02] <omeil_> lemme try
[01:02] <yurimxpxman> yes
[01:02] <HiP_P> like umount /media/cdrom
[01:02] <mifa> loppa: but it should work with via though
[01:02] <ikonia> elwario91: if you have no nvidia installed why are you trying to remove nvidia
[01:02] <loppa> mifa: well it dont.
[01:03] <riich00> ikonia: umm , okay how do I fix that ?
[01:03] <omeil_> sudo unmount?
[01:03] <HiP_P> yup
[01:03] <ikonia> riich00: no idea as it should see you as x86
[01:03] <loppa> So i dont quite know what to do now.
[01:03] <elwario91> they recommend it
[01:03] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, oh okay I thought you meant you can't edit the file lol
[01:03] <omeil_> can't seem to recognise the command
[01:03] <ikonia> riich00: what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:03] <omeil_> i mounted to /mnt/
[01:03] <reubs> can anyone help with an ssh problem?
[01:03] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, I just got the fact that you can't pastebin as usual
[01:03] <ikonia> elwario91: thats stupid - why remove nvidia if you've not installed it
[01:03] <sha1sum> lol
[01:03] <riich00> 6.10
[01:03] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I can edit it lol
[01:03] <HiP_P> if your unmounting a iso image sudo umount /media/iso
[01:03] <ikonia> riich00: very strange
[01:03] <loppa> mifa:: whats your suggestion now?
[01:03] <ikonia> riich00: show me the output of uname -a
[01:04] <omeil_> oh
[01:04] <HiP_P> omeil_: umount is unknown?
[01:04] <mifa> loppa: try once again
[01:04] <riich00> Linux rich-laptop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:04] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, try apt-getting 'pastebinit'
[01:04] <mifa> loppa: make a backup
[01:04] <loppa> have to copy that stuff first again then.
[01:04] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  do what?
[01:04] <mifa> loppa: open xorg.conf and change vesa into via
[01:05] <ikonia> riich00: can you put the output of "sudo apt-get install network-manager" in a pastebin please
[01:05] <omeil_> HiP_P itsok :D i was typing unmount instead of umount
[01:05] <omeil_> lol
[01:05] <mifa> loppa: restart X (ctrl alt del)
[01:05] <omeil_> !umount
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <HiP_P> ah ok
[01:05] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, type this at the command line:  apt-get install pastebinit
[01:05] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I cant copy and paste it because I am in this chat on my notebook
[01:05] <HiP_P> have look at the manual
[01:05] <HiP_P> man umount
[01:05] <yurimxpxman> I am wanting to set it up on my desktop
[01:05] <HiP_P> see if thats any help
[01:06] <mifa> loppa: if that doesnt work, go to vt1 (ctrl alt f1) and restore backup - > cp xorg.conf.backup
[01:06] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, no you log in on a separate "tty" by using the ctrl+alt+f[x]  keys and then you use the pastebinit command to send the output of the file directly to a pastebin site
[01:06] <mifa> loppa: ypu get it?
[01:06] <riich00> ikonia: get error E: Couldn't find package network-manager
[01:06] <loppa> mifa: not quite, but i'll start with the backup now.
[01:07] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, but nevermind if it's much trouble
[01:07] <ikonia> riich00: I asked you to please put the full output in the pastebin
[01:07] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I have no idea how to do any of that... sry
[01:07] <loppa> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:07] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, anyway, then if the driver indicates anything other than i810, change it
[01:07] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  do you just want to know what that section says?
[01:07] <mifa> loppa: correct!
[01:07] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, yes
[01:07] <omeil_> HiP_P: can it mount .nrg?
[01:07] <mifa> loppa: wright it down!
[01:07] <HiP_P> ummm
[01:07] <mifa> on paper
[01:08] <omeil_> HiP_P: or is there anyway? i tried doing the normal mount but nothing ;(
[01:08] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  what should the busid say since it is onboard?
[01:08] <HiP_P> there is
[01:08] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  PCI:0:2:0?
[01:08] <sha1sum> mifa, who uses paper?! that's so 90's
[01:08] <HiP_P> but its tricky
[01:08] <loppa> mifa: cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup': No such file or directory
[01:08] <sha1sum> heh heh
[01:08] <sha1sum> :D
[01:08] <ikonia> mifa: give up - hes not listening
[01:08] <omeil_> im not good at tricky things :)
[01:08] <omeil_> maybe if i google it
[01:08] <omeil_> !.nrg
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nrg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <graulich> how can I open an ace file in GUI mode in Xubuntu 6.10
[01:08] <graulich> ?
[01:08] <mifa> loppa: x11 -> X11
[01:08] <ikonia> !ace
[01:08] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:09] <loppa> aha.
[01:09] <ikonia> !ace >graulich
[01:09] <loppa> Case sensitive?
[01:09] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, busid should be pci of some sort... it could be anything
[01:09] <loppa> mifa:
[01:09] <ikonia> loppa: of course !
[01:09] <mifa> ikonia: he has to learn.. but he isnt that fast indeed
[01:09] <HiP_P> basically as i can tell the way it mounts an nrg is converting it to an iso
[01:09] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, usually at LEAST that is detected correctly
[01:09] <ikonia> mifa: he doesn't have to learn - its clear he's not even listening
[01:09] <loppa> ikonia: how was i to know.
[01:09] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  should I try to restart now?
[01:09] <ikonia> loppa: by reading the basic docs on the OS you've installed
[01:09] <mifa> loppa: that is linux alwaus
[01:09] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, what did you have to change?
[01:09] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, and what was it before
[01:09] <omeil_> so basically i should just conert it?
[01:10] <yurimxpxman> Vesa
[01:10] <omeil_> convert
[01:10] <loppa> ikonia: dont bother.
[01:10] <HiP_P> yup
[01:10] <nanothief>  whats a good replacement of strongdc for ubuntu?
[01:10] <ikonia> loppa: you should have bothered
[01:10] <loppa> mifa: good to know.
[01:10] <loppa> ikonia: I dont bother.
[01:10] <HiP_P> ill find the thing for ya
[01:10] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, ah yes... doesn't do well with vesa
[01:10] <ikonia> loppa: people may not be bothered to help you then
[01:10] <sha1sum> I remember that now
[01:10] <yurimxpxman> I am rebooting to see if it works
[01:10] <omeil_> cool thx
[01:10] <mifa> loppa: do you know the site ubuntuguide.org?
[01:10] <yurimxpxman> fingers crossed
[01:10] <ikonia> mifa: is giving his time to help you and you can't be "bothered" to even read the basics
[01:11] <ikonia> sorry - that wasn't meant for mifa
[01:11] <sha1sum> unfortunately the system I use with that chipset is at work and behind a firewall and a vpn so it would do no good to even attempt to get the xorg.conf file for you heh sorry
[01:11] <omeil_> for some reason ubuntu dosen't boot straight to the gui at the start
[01:11] <ikonia> omeil_: X is possibly messed up#
[01:11] <mifa> loppa: good site to get some basics
[01:11] <omeil_> i have to type the exit command so it continues booting
[01:11] <ikonia> mifa: he's just said he can't be bothered
[01:11] <loppa> mifa: thanks, check it out later.
[01:11] <ikonia> yeah - i'll bet you will
[01:11] <ikonia> not
[01:11] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  doesnt look like it worked
[01:11] <ikonia> "much later"
[01:11] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, okay, now try to boot in safe graphics mode
[01:11] <omeil_> ikonia: i heard its quite a problem, nothin will go wrong if i just type exit and boot straight to gui right?
[01:11] <yurimxpxman> too bad it has to be so difficult
[01:12] <loppa> ikonia: why do you bother, wether or not if I bother, cant you bother yourself with something els, rather than what i bother and not?
[01:12] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, see if that works at all
[01:12] <jimle> Hi, has anyone here got ET and punkbuster running?
[01:12] <HiP_P> sudo apt-get nrg2iso
[01:12] <ikonia> loppa: because its just rude and lazy to ask people to do stuff for you becaus eyou can't be bothered
[01:12] <omeil_> thx
[01:12] <HiP_P> *sudo apt-get install nrg2iso
[01:12] <omeil_> sud apt-get install nrg2iso?
[01:12] <omeil_> sudo*
[01:12] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  I am going to wait until it shows the error on screen and see if it has changed
[01:12] <HiP_P> yup
[01:12] <loppa> ikonia: i downloaded the iso file, now tell me, weres my books?
[01:12] <xopher> HiP_P, fuseiso wokr aswell
[01:12] <ikonia> omeil_: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it will help you configure X
[01:12] <xopher> *works
[01:12] <gdb> sheesh
[01:13] <HiP_P> ahhh never heard of that..... xopher
[01:13] <mifa> loppa: on the systems menu?
[01:13] <loppa> mifa: done with the backup.
[01:13] <HiP_P> cheers
[01:13] <ikonia> loppa: the books are on the website
[01:13] <xopher> HiP_P, it's really great too, mounts everything you throw at it
[01:13] <mifa> loppa you see the blue ? mark
[01:13] <ikonia> where you downloaded the image
[01:13] <yurimxpxman> HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:13] <yurimxpxman> sha1sum:  IT WORKS!!!!
[01:13] <yurimxpxman> Thanks sha1sum
[01:13] <omeil_> so my xorg.conf is screwed?
[01:14] <ikonia> sha1sum: well done
[01:14] <ikonia> omeil_: potentially
[01:14] <yurimxpxman> just took an extremely long time to boot
[01:14] <yurimxpxman> lol
[01:14] <ikonia> omeil_: if its not booting to X at start up
[01:14] <mifa> lopp open xorg.conf
[01:14] <loppa> mifa: okay, okay. Ill read the damn books.
[01:14] <HiP_P> xophers: cool .... i stop looking after nrg2iso did what i needed
[01:15] <yurimxpxman> thanks a ton sha1sum...  now i dont have to manage my website in textmode!
[01:15] <yurimxpxman> that excites me
[01:15] <HiP_P> but ill have a look at that now
[01:15] <riich00> ikonia:output is in pastebin
[01:15] <[KotG|Tanuva] > hmm.... how do I install .deb packs I already got on my desktop using aptitude? cant get it right...
[01:15] <ikonia> riich00: link please
[01:15] <xopher> hehe, that was only an ugly workaround for me, so I kept on looking until I found something better
[01:15] <sha1sum> yurimxpxman, np :) enjoy
[01:15] <xopher> [KotG|Tanuva] , you dont, you install them using dpkg, eg. : dpkg -i packagename.deb
[01:15] <HiP_P> haha
[01:16] <mifa> loppa: but you have  now a desktop that is already good
[01:16] <[KotG|Tanuva] > ah... okay, ty :D
[01:16] <xopher> [KotG|Tanuva] , oh, and sudo
[01:16] <riich00> ikonia:http://pastebin.com/887853
[01:16] <gdb> [KotG|Tanuva] : $ sudo aptitude -i package.deb
[01:16] <sha1sum> actually I always thought servers better-managed in CLI
[01:16] <sha1sum> but oh well hehe
[01:16] <loppa> mifa: done with the editing, so now ive pressed ctrl+alt+del, now what?
[01:16] <gdb> [KotG|Tanuva] : this is assuming you want to use aptitude and thus have aptitude keep a package log for you in /var/log.
[01:17] <mifa> loppa: and you have a desktop?
[01:17] <loppa> mifa: yes i have a desktop.
[01:17] <mifa> loppa: and you pressed ctrl alt del also?
[01:17] <[KotG|Tanuva] > gdb: yep, thats it
[01:17] <loppa> mifa: yeah.
[01:17] <Spliffster> hello room. is someone in here knowledgable with disk quotas in a network ?
[01:17] <mifa> loppa: you logged in again?
[01:18] <HiP_P> xophers: do you know anything with this apt-get problem?
[01:18] <loppa> mifa: nothing happens when i press ctrl alt del.
[01:18] <mifa> loppa: ia m sorry it must be backspace insead of del
[01:18] <sha1sum> okay guys Flannel answered my question and I was just waiting for that answer so I could install but then yuriman's question came up and distracted me... I'm still on the friggin' livecd to install lol -- bbl
[01:18] <HiP_P> or is it just the server being slow
[01:18] <shkubane1> hello. i need to run someting like paste.ubuntu-nl.org.. is it in ubuntu as a package? cannot find it..
[01:19] <sha1sum> mifa, lol... yeah it is backspace
[01:19] <sha1sum> mifa, and sometimes you have to press it more than once to get gdm to disappear
[01:19] <HiP_P> xopher even
[01:19] <sha1sum> anyway, cya
[01:19] <omeil_> HiP_P where does nrg2iso copy to lol?
[01:19] <mifa> shalsum used to often windozzz
[01:19] <jimle> Can anyone help me with punkbuster it says 'connection timed out'
[01:19] <xopher> HiP_P, huh?
[01:19] <roderic> hey
[01:20] <HiP_P> xopher: do you know anything with this apt-get problem or is it just the server being slow
[01:20] <xopher> HiP_P, no idea, try switching to an alternative mirror
[01:20] <graulich> I used unace to unace this ace file, and I get: File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible.
[01:21] <bi23sex> Hi
[01:21] <berent> which is the best pdf editor in ubuntu
[01:21] <roderic> did anyone get virtualBox to work under ubuntu desktop 6.10 ?
[01:21] <HiP_P> dir you put a target file omeil_
[01:21] <HiP_P> *did
[01:21] <berent> which is the best pdf editor in ubuntu
[01:22] <stillunknown> Is it considered normal that restricted modules have to be apt-getted manually after a kernel update?
[01:22] <bi23sex> I've got Ubuntu Dapper working in my laptop, everything is working BUT the sd card reader (O2 Micro OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1), what can I do? please
[01:22] <HiP_P> xopher: is there mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[01:23] <nanothief> where are the files for programs installed on ubuntu? ie is there a ubuntu "program files" folder, and if so where is it? I'm just curious ;)
[01:23] <HiP_P>  /usr/sbin
[01:24] <riich00> ikonia: any luck ?
[01:24] <shkubane1> nanothief: /usr/share/menu
[01:24] <gdb> nanothief: /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin
[01:24] <HiP_P> is some of them
[01:24] <kenthomson> What is common between Ubuntu and Microsoft?
[01:25] <jimle> Can anyone help me with punkbuster it says 'connection timed out'
[01:25] <shkubane1> nanothief: /usr/share/applications/  /usr/share/applnk/
[01:25] <nanothief> gbd: oh so there is no central location (although there isn't really one in windows either).
[01:25] <HiP_P> you could try "locate"
[01:25] <gdb> nanothief: basically, find any package name and do "dpkg -L package" and you get a list of files in it.
[01:25] <gdb> nanothief: software is installed in very specific locations dependant on function
[01:25] <berent> which is the best pdf editor in ubuntu
[01:25] <HiP_P> kenthomson: ones free and ones not
[01:25] <nanothief> gbd: cool thanks
[01:26] <sha1sum> okay before I have to start the install over again (suckage), is fat32 as /home mount supported (using feisty)?
[01:26] <gdb> nanothief: An overall description of this standard can be found here -> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[01:26] <HiP_P> and when i say free i mean legally free
[01:26] <yurimxpxma1> sha1sum?
[01:26] <bi23sex> berent openoffice is quite simple and you can export to pdf, if you're looking for something more professional try scribus
[01:26] <sha1sum> yurimxpxma1, what's up?
[01:26] <yurimxpxma1> wtf  my name changed
[01:26] <yurimxpxma1> o well
[01:26] <sha1sum> hehe
[01:27] <yurimxpxma1> sha1sum:  I am on the desktop now with gnome
[01:27] <sha1sum> nice
[01:27] <yurimxpxma1> didnt think it would ever happen
[01:27] <sha1sum> lol
[01:27] <yurimxpxma1> but new problem
[01:27] <sha1sum> yeah that chipset is a bitch
[01:27] <berent> thanks bi*23sex i will try it
[01:27] <yurimxpxma1> I cant find the driver for my monitor
[01:27] <sha1sum> I don't really like intel chipsets in general
[01:27] <andem> When trying to boot the liveCD on my acer aspire 9500 i get an error that no display is found, anyone knows what could be going on?
[01:27] <yurimxpxma1> lol
[01:27] <sha1sum> which is odd, seeing as how their processors are the most supported
[01:27] <yurimxpxma1> Samsung Syncmaster 941BW
[01:27] <johnnyhandsome> does ubuntu is supported by Core 2 Duo's
[01:27] <gdb> bi23sex, what an odd name for the #ubuntu channel, i'd have thought #hottub
[01:27] <gdb> heh
[01:28] <sha1sum> so anyway, is fat32 mountable as /home or what?
[01:28] <sha1sum> johnnyhandsome, yes
[01:28] <sha1sum> johnnyhandsome, even with SMP support
[01:28] <HiP_P> hahah@gdb
[01:28] <sha1sum> johnnyhandsome, I'm on a centrino duo now
[01:28] <jrib> sha1sum: it probably won't work very well, I wouldn't recommend it
[01:28] <xopher> HiP_P, that I honestly dont know
[01:28] <HiP_P> hmmm
[01:29] <HiP_P> didn't think there would be
[01:29] <sha1sum> jrib, I need something accessible by both vista and ubuntu... I have a weird system of organization that almost requires my files be organized into the same drive so I don't have to duplicate the rename/relocate process
[01:29] <ikonia> riich00: do you have the correct repo's enabled
[01:29] <sha1sum> drive=partition
[01:29] <jrib> sha1sum: hmm have you checked if fs-driver.org works in vista?  Then you could use ext3
[01:29] <HiP_P> its weird because the files there
[01:29] <sha1sum> jrib, actually no I haven't... most things don't work in vista so I just assumed hehehe
[01:30] <sha1sum> brb
[01:32] <sha1sum> jrib, http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ <--- claiming to work in vista... we shall see later on I guess
[01:32] <johnnyhandsome> ok good sha1sum
[01:32] <johnnyhandsome> so its supports core 2 right?
[01:32] <sha1sum> johnnyhandsome, okay yes
[01:33] <johnnyhandsome> oh i see...
[01:33] <johnnyhandsome> thanks...
[01:33] <sha1sum> johnnyhandsome, how many times should I answer?
[01:33] <jrib> sha1sum: yep, just found that on wikipedia as well
[01:33] <johnnyhandsome> ya thanks...
[01:33] <sha1sum> ;)
[01:33] <johnnyhandsome> from where can i get ubuntu
[01:33] <sha1sum> np
[01:33] <andem> anyone know if intel 915GM is not supported in 6.10. I cannot boot the live cd on my acer aspire 9500
[01:33] <sha1sum> johnnyhandsome, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <sha1sum> andem, it should be, yes
[01:34] <sha1sum> andem, as previous version have supported it and whatnot
[01:34] <HiP_P> ahhhh
[01:34] <sha1sum> andem, where does the boot process stop?
[01:35] <sha1sum> andem, and have you tried safe graphics mode?
[01:35] <andem> i see the logo, two of the boot steps are passed and then it goes into a kind of text mode
[01:35] <sha1sum> andem, what does it display?
[01:35] <andem> it said something about no display found
[01:35] <HiP_P> so is automatix a bad thing?
[01:36] <andem> and that i should visit wiki.x.org
[01:36] <mo^> how can i open all links in a new tab in epiphany?
[01:36] <riich00> ikonia: not sure what you mean? I'm new to linux
[01:36] <sha1sum> andem, if you want to see the whole boot process, btw, just take out the "quiet" and "splash" options by pressing F6 when the CD boot menu comes up
[01:36] <sha1sum> andem, okay, that would be an xorg driver issue
[01:37] <andem> anything i can do about it?
[01:37] <riich00> ikonia: do u mean repositries ?
[01:37] <HiP_P> or if automatix safe
[01:37] <HiP_P> *or is automatix safe
[01:37] <sha1sum> andem, if you can boot into safe graphics mode, that would be best, then go here to get the xorg drivers: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html
[01:38] <andem> will the driver install be intuitive to a linux first timer?
[01:39] <HiP_P> !automatix
[01:39] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:39] <Gabriel-Garcia> oi
[01:39] <Gabriel-Garcia> oi
[01:39] <sha1sum> andem, I'm not exactly the guy to talk to to make things intuitive heh
[01:39] <Gabriel-Garcia> oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi
[01:39] <sha1sum> I make them work, but sometimes it's a bitch lol
[01:39] <omeil> !mount
[01:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:40] <omeil> !iso
[01:40] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[01:40] <Gabriel-Garcia> i from brazil
[01:40] <andem> sha: ill give it a try and see how it goes, thanks
[01:40] <HiP_P> Gabriel-Garcia: thats nice for you
[01:41] <Gabriel-Garcia> thanks!!
[01:41] <taccuino> #ubuntu-de
[01:41] <taccuino> join #ubuntu-de
[01:41] <MWS_> I've downloaded the ubuntu windows setup program, and I'm really curious why they chose the bittorrent protocol to download the ISO. It seems illogical to me. Can anyone explain to me why they didn't just program the installer to use a random HTTP mirror!?
[01:41] <Gabriel-Garcia> i speak just a little english
[01:41] <HiP_P> thats german aint it
[01:41] <HiP_P> @taccuino
[01:42] <whileimhere> Are there any panel applets to monitor disk space?
[01:42] <ikonia> riich00: yes, thats right
[01:42] <Gabriel-Garcia>  '<
[01:42] <taccuino> HiP_P i've forgotten the "/" ^^
[01:42] <riich00> ikonia: just checking latest repo's now
[01:42] <loppa> mifa: well, that didnt work as it should.
[01:43] <SamePaulNB> Keyring manager cries that keyring daemon is not running. How to make it run?
[01:43] <loppa> I managed to get the backup done, so i'm back on the system now.
[01:43] <ikonia> riich00: I don't mean the latest, more a case of multiverse, universe etc etc
[01:43] <Lunar_Lamp> MWS_, I suspect it's to distribute the bandwidth better. However, I would have problems with bittorrent as it is blocked here!
[01:43] <loppa> mifa: Must be something with the installation of the via drivers i've done wrong or something.
[01:44] <_pg> Hi, I've got a scsi mo drive on ubuntu, anybody knows which device this would be in /dev to be used for mounting?
[01:44] <loppa> ikonia: is mifa still aorund?
[01:44] <ikonia> loppa: what video card do you have
[01:44] <MWS_> Lunar_Lamp:  Exactly. My ISP caps my bandwidth, so I have to use encryption.
[01:44] <ikonia> loppa: I've not seen him speak for a while
[01:44] <loppa> ikonia: via i guess.
[01:44] <ikonia> loppa: what do you mean - you guess
[01:44] <ikonia> loppa: what video card do you have ?
[01:44] <MWS_> Lunar_Lamp:  But, if there's HTTP mirrors available, why not use them!?
[01:44] <sha1sum> loppa, type 'lspci' and look for graphics
[01:44] <loppa> ikonia: well, the drivers i have installed is vesa and mifa said i needed via.
[01:44] <HiP_P> Gabriel-Garcia: type /join #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <loppa> shalsum, did that a while ago and found out that i needed via drivers.
[01:45] <sha1sum> loppa, if you already did any of this, sorry, but output it to me again if you would like my help because I don't just take somebody else's word for it heh
[01:45] <SamePaulNB> how to start keyring daemon?
[01:45] <sha1sum> usually they were correct, but I'm not wasting time when they're not
[01:45] <mifa> loppa iam here
[01:45] <ikonia> loppa: what video card do you have - not what drivers, or version, what video card do you have
[01:46] <sha1sum> okay cool
[01:46] <loppa> ikonia: what do i type to find out?
[01:46] <taccuino> can i download the human theme for moinmoin wiki anywhere?
[01:46] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Is there any way to completely reinstall dpkg and apt-get!?
[01:46] <sha1sum> loppa, I just told you
[01:46] <sha1sum> loppa, heh
[01:46] <ikonia> loppa: you bought the machine - you should know
[01:46] <loppa> ikonia: on a laptop, so not quite sure what card it is.
[01:46] <ikonia> loppa: you bought the laptop - you should know
[01:46] <soundray> _pg: it depends on whether you have any other scsi, sata or usb mass storage devices. If not, it will be /dev/sda. Try 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' to get an idea of what's connected
[01:46] <ikonia> loppa: what does the card show up as in windows
[01:46] <loppa> ikonia: i dont know.
[01:46] <Moox> hi there. How can I install flash 9 ? I've activate the edgy-backports but I always get flash7 with apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree
[01:47] <loppa> ikonia: i dont know that either, windows crashed long ago, soo..
[01:47] <ikonia> loppa: put the output of lspci in a pastebine please
[01:47] <mifa> lspci | grep -i vga gave an via
[01:47] <ikonia> mifa: ahhh thank you
[01:47] <_pg> soundray: two devices, one cdrom , one mo drive
[01:47] <ikonia> !via
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <sha1sum> mifa, but model is still important ;)
[01:47] <loppa> ikonia: pastebine?
[01:47] <_pg> there is no /dev/sda or alike
[01:47] <ikonia> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <yevgeny> Hello people
[01:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Or can i reinstall ubuntu completely... and keep /home and the user configs there?
[01:47] <morrolan> he means pastebin
[01:47] <ikonia> this is like pulling teach
[01:47] <ikonia> teeth
[01:48] <Stormx2> ikonia: Whats the problem?
 jowi: it says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[01:48] <ikonia> Stormx2: nothing
[01:48] <mifa> from the past..
[01:48] <ikonia> mifa: thanks
[01:48] <loppa> mifa: correct.
[01:48] <ikonia> unusual to see via these days
[01:48] <soundray> _pg: is there a medium in the drive?
[01:48] <ikonia> loppa: is this an old lapotp
[01:48] <ikonia> laptop
[01:48] <loppa> ikonia: no, just bought it.
[01:48] <ikonia> how strange
[01:49] <loppa> ikonia: couple of weeks old or something.
[01:49] <ikonia> loppa: so how did windows crash a "long time ago" then if you only just bought it
[01:49] <loppa> ikonia: its a cheap one, maybe that explains it?
[01:49] <_pg> soundray: yes, there is
[01:49] <ikonia> loppa: possibly
[01:49] <mifa> loppa: u need unichrome
[01:49] <ikonia> unichrome is quite buggy
[01:49] <loppa> ikonia: well, i didnt turn it of, so when i got back on thu it was crashed.
[01:49] <ikonia> loppa: so reboot into windows
[01:49] <mifa> loppa: This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further description)
[01:49] <mifa> provides support for various VIA UniChrome cards, among them: VT3122, VT7205,
[01:49] <mifa> VT3108, VT3118, VT3344, VT3157, VT3230 and VT3343.
[01:49] <loppa> ikonia: beats me how it did that, but it did.
[01:50] <ikonia> loppa: just reboot into windows
[01:50] <loppa> ikonia: dont have windows no more.
[01:50] <ikonia> ughhhh
[01:50] <ikonia> loppa: google your laptop model and find out the model of video card in it
[01:51] <ikonia> so we can see if its a supported one
[01:51] <loppa> ikonia, but nevertheless it says via in linux.
[01:51] <mifa> loppa: i advice just stick with vesa
[01:51] <ikonia> loppa: thats not much to go on
[01:51] <soundray> _pg: two things: you could do a 'dmesg | less' and search for a substring of the line in /proc/scsi/scsi that corresponds to your drive, and you could run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' to see if any errors are logged while you insert an MO disk.
[01:51] <ikonia> mifa: I would too
[01:51] <ikonia> more so as we don't know if its supported
[01:51] <loppa> ikonia: ill check the books on it.
[01:51] <loppa> if theyre around.
[01:51] <sha1sum> xf86-video-unichrome is a possible package name for both xorg and xf86
[01:51] <sha1sum> haven't verified it's a real package yet
[01:51] <ikonia> sha1sum: glitches galore
[01:51] <sha1sum> ouch
[01:51] <loppa> on second thought, i'll google it, cant find the books.
[01:52] <zyth> xserver-xorg-video-via - X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
[01:52] <zyth> xserver-xorg-video-unichrome - X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
[01:52] <sha1sum> yeah http://unichrome.sourceforge.net
[01:52] <ikonia> hence why I want to know if his cards even supported before wasing time trying to get the buggy drivers working
[01:52] <omeil> umm how do u use nrg2iso?
[01:52] <omeil> ithought it was ./nrg2iso image.nrg image.iso
[01:52] <sha1sum> ikonia, what version is included in which release tho?
[01:52] <omeil> !nrg2iso
[01:52] <ubotu> nrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[01:52] <SamePaulNB> how to start keyring daemon?
[01:52] <ikonia> sha1sum: a good question, I've not looked in the repo's yet as I want to know if his cards supported
[01:52] <sha1sum> omeil, that's only if nrg2iso (the actual executable file) is in the same directory you're in at the time
[01:53] <loppa> ikonia: VIA UniChrome Pro VN800
[01:53] <sha1sum> omeil, that's what the ./ is for
[01:53] <omeil> oh
[01:53] <omeil> well i installed it from apt-get
[01:53] <ikonia> loppa: ok - so now google for VN800 and xorg
[01:53] <gpfreitas> Hi all. All my audio apps (using mplayer, vlc and quodlibet for comparison) sound considerably louder than mpd. On top of that, audio quality is not good. I don't know if it sound's like clipping or a bit of distortion... It sounds more or less like an overloaded preamp. Any ideas?
[01:53] <omeil> from terminal. what locaiton does that go to?
[01:53] <jorgg> I want to be able to run and compile java programs. I want to use the Eclipse IDE, and im wondering about what version of java to install. There's so many versions
[01:53] <zyth> loppa, you want to apt-get xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[01:53] <ikonia> omeil: search for it
[01:53] <gpfreitas> I have some files in http://archive.gpfreitas.com/tmp/mpd-problems like errors.log, /etc/asound.conf, /etc/mpd.conf, /proc/asound/cards, /proc/asound/pcm
[01:53] <sha1sum> loppa, hmmm.... k it's a VT3344
[01:53] <ikonia> jorgg: look which version eclipse wants
[01:54] <soundray> omeil: or try leaving out the ./
[01:54] <gpfreitas> I tried the #mpd channel but it didn't help.
[01:54] <mifa> loppa: do as zyth says and change in xorg vesa to unichrome
[01:54] <loppa> ikonia: what about what zyth just said?
[01:54] <martin-> I keep getting a blank black when booting Ubuntu 6.10, it happens right after the splash screen. I think it's about to start the X server when it happens. Anyone know why this is happening? I'm thinking it has something to do with my Radeon 9800XT.
[01:54] <Clujo> jorgg- 1.4 is still standard.
[01:54] <ikonia> loppa: thats installing the via drivers - I suggested you see if your card is supported
[01:54] <mifa> loppa: sudo aptget install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[01:54] <martin-> blank black screen*
[01:54] <omeil> ill try that because i can't find it anywhere with search
[01:55] <ikonia> before wasting time
[01:55] <zyth> martii, change your video driver from vesa to radeon in your xorg.conf
[01:55] <ikonia> omeil: I doubt you searched that quick
[01:55] <mifa> loppa apt-get isntead off aptget
[01:55] <martin-> zyth: how?
[01:55] <zyth> martin-, change your video driver from vesa to radeon in your xorg.conf
[01:55] <omeil> ikonia: ubuntu is only on a 6gb hd so umm yeah :P
[01:55] <andem> i just tried booting into safe graphics mode, but i get a failed to start the x server error, and then that x was disabled and that i hsould restart GDM when it has been configured corectly.. any clues to what i should do?
[01:55] <zyth> martin-, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <ikonia> omeil: if search didn't find it - its not installed
[01:55] <omeil> soundray: thanks your right
[01:55] <martin-> zyth: and how do I get a console exactly?
[01:56] <sha1sum> ikonia, lol it says on the site that the VT3344 is a unichrome pro, but it's older than the unichrome pro a, via just didn't realize til after naming the unichome pro a that they didn't have any cards named unichrome pro yet lol
[01:56] <martin-> I haven't even installed anything yet
[01:56] <sha1sum> that's great
[01:56] <whileimhere> Is there a simmple way to take a DVD and turn it into a VCD or some small file to store and watch on my laptop? I dont want todrag DVDs on my trip.
[01:56] <loppa> mifa: done.
[01:56] <mifa> then restart x again
[01:56] <ikonia> sha1sum: he should stick with visa
[01:56] <sha1sum> "whoops, we manufactured a ton of these Unichrome Pro A cards, but there wasn't even a Unichrome Pro!  Let's just call the next version a Unichrome Pro and we'll be okay."
[01:56] <sha1sum> hehe
[01:56] <_pg> soundray: no errors visible. dmesg shows the MO drive at target 0:0:4, syslog looks fine (some gconfd errors). BTW, this is not the most recent ubuntu, this one has kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[01:56] <ikonia> vesa even
[01:56] <sha1sum> ikonia, heh I was about to say amex is better than visa I always thought :D
[01:57] <ikonia> fat typo
[01:57] <sha1sum> heh
[01:57] <loppa> mifa: well done that, now what?
[01:57] <andem> sha1sum: safe graphics mode didnt work.. failed to start x server... x disabled, restart when GDM configured correctly
[01:58] <ikonia> andem got an ati card by chance ?
[01:58] <soundray> _pg: how are you checking for the device?
[01:58] <mifa> loppa: so you restarted x and logged in again?
[01:58] <sha1sum> loppa, you restarted X already
[01:58] <loppa> mifa: yes.
[01:58] <riich00> ikonia: also have problem with resolv.conf constantly being over written ?
[01:58] <andem> its an intel 915GM
[01:58] <sha1sum> mifa, heh I was about to say this is when we usually get results lol
[01:58] <soundray> _pg: kernel age shouldn't matter in this case
[01:58] <ikonia> riich00: probably by your dhcp server
[01:58] <mifa> loppa: than it worked :)
[01:58] <loppa> mifa: well, it still lags.
[01:58] <ikonia> loppa: its a poor card ?
[01:59] <ikonia> loppa: give it more memory in the bios
[01:59] <ikonia> if you can
[01:59] <riich00> ikonia: ok how do i fix that
[01:59] <sha1sum> andem, sometimes intel cards don't like vesa modes but you can try it... dunno how to try tho from the boot options in ubuntu... gimme a sec I'll check unless somebody knows
[01:59] <ikonia> riich00: don't use a dhcp server
[01:59] <sha1sum> does safe use vesa?
[01:59] <jorgg> Clujo: but what are the different java files. gij gcj sun Blackdown etc. there are so many versions..?
[01:59] <_pg> soundray: what do you mean with 'checking for the device'? I found the device in /proc/scsi/scsi and the kernel log
[01:59] <loppa> ikonia: it probably is a poor card, but it shouldnt lag in regular x?
[01:59] <ikonia> loppa: should if its rubbish
[01:59] <soundray> _pg: I mean /dev/sda, /dev/sdb etc.
[01:59] <riich00> ok
[02:00] <ikonia> loppa: or as I tried to warn you - the drivers are weak
[02:00] <loppa> ikonia: doesnt lag in windows or in games.
[02:00] <Clujo> jorgg- sun 1.4 is the basic standard now, or I think eclipse sends one if you elect that.
[02:00] <ikonia> loppa: drivers are weak
[02:00] <_pg> soundray: just with 'ls'
[02:00] <loppa> ikonia: still says vesa in the xorg file.
[02:00] <jorgg> Clujo: okay.
[02:00] <ikonia> loppa: ughhhh
[02:00] <ikonia> loppa: what does it say in xorg
[02:00] <omeil> loopa running in software
[02:00] <ikonia> xorg.conf
[02:00] <ikonia> omeil: whats running in software ?
[02:01] <loppa> ikonia: still says vesa
[02:01] <ikonia> loppa: so you didn't change it then
[02:01] <omeil> vesa
[02:01] <loppa> ikonia, u should? ah damnit.
[02:01] <ikonia> omeil: of course vesa is software
[02:01] <loppa> well then, to what?
[02:01] <omeil> yea just said he is still in software :)
[02:01] <sha1sum> goddammit
[02:01] <sha1sum> lol
[02:01] <sha1sum> loppa
[02:01] <mifa> loppa: to "unichrome"
[02:01] <sha1sum> dude
[02:01] <loppa> on it.
[02:01] <ikonia> omneil all drivers are software
[02:01] <sha1sum> change FROM VESA
[02:01] <sha1sum> TO UNICHROME
[02:02] <sha1sum> (in lowercase)
[02:02] <sha1sum> heh
[02:02] <mifa> lol
[02:02] <loppa> mifa: do i have to make another copy, or is the old one still there?
[02:02] <ikonia> this level of spoon feeding is weak
[02:02] <omeil> ikonia: there opengl/direct 3d /software
[02:02] <ikonia> omeil: but vesa doesn't support those
[02:02] <mifa> loppa the old one is there
[02:02] <sha1sum> omeil, direct3d will be a no
[02:02] <sha1sum> heh
[02:02] <T1> hi can anyone help me out with xgl, ive upgraded to ati 8.34 drivers, and i get 3d accel in normal x, but xgl wont start
[02:02] <soundray> _pg: it's strange, you should have /dev/sd? devices
[02:02] <omeil> yea i know. so what does vesa specifically use?
[02:03] <ikonia> omeil: it doesn't
[02:03] <loppa> well then, here goes.
[02:03] <ikonia> omeil: it doesn't support acceleration
[02:03] <soundray> _pg: do you have any /dev/sg? ?
[02:03] <omeil> so its kinda just using system resources memory...etc..?
[02:03] <sha1sum> omeil, it uses system resources (RAM stands in for video RAM, CPU for GPU, etc)
[02:03] <omeil> hmm thought so.
[02:03] <ikonia> omeil: errrrr no - it uses oncard/or system - whatever the HARDWARE uses
[02:03] <Costel> my pc freezes in edgy
[02:04] <sha1sum> omeil, basically it's just a software raw send-to-video with no accelleration
[02:04] <_pg> soundray: no, none at all, neither /dev/sd* nor /dev/sg*. The cdrom (in fstab) is listed at /dev/scd0
[02:04] <omeil> yeah thats what i kinda ment at the start as in software
[02:04] <omeil> basically just plain video
[02:05] <T1> anyone?
[02:05] <Costel> al low resolution it works fine..fresh install...3 mounth earlier worked more then fine
[02:05] <ikonia> Costel: so what have you changed
[02:05] <Costel> nothing
[02:05] <Costel> i mai be hardware issue?
[02:05] <ikonia> Costel: so you've not updated any software in 3 months
[02:05] <Costel> now i run a fresh install
[02:06] <wolfeySI> hello how can i get 'xorgconfig' util in ubuntu?
[02:06] <Costel> like now 3 mounth
[02:06] <Costel> s
[02:06] <wolfeySI> the default xorg.conf isnt good
[02:06] <ikonia> wolfeySI: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <loppa> mifa: that didnt work as well.
[02:06] <ikonia> with sudo in front
[02:06] <ikonia> loppa: define didn't work
[02:06] <sha1sum> that reminds me, whoever had the vesa questions, see if your BIOS settings have VESA extension capabilities
[02:06] <loppa> ikonia: x wouldnt start.
[02:06] <sha1sum> (VBE)
[02:06] <soundray> _pg: I'm not sure what would be best to do -- you could do some surgery like creating devices with mknod or rerunning MAKEDEV. I'd first boot a live CD though to see if the drive gets a /dev/sd? device there.
[02:06] <loppa> ikonia: so i had to reload the backup again.
[02:06] <wolfeySI> i'm having problem with trident drivers
[02:06] <ikonia> I'd just be using vesa if I was you
[02:06] <wolfeySI> on moving windows it doesnt repaint window
[02:07] <Costel> if i open mozilla or synaptic it freezes?
[02:07] <sha1sum> loppa, does the backup work at all?
[02:07] <loppa> ikonia: dont seem to have much of a choice.
[02:07] <sha1sum> loppa, because if it does, then forget about restoring it
[02:07] <sha1sum> loppa, rather, if it doesn't
[02:07] <omeil> !bin2iso
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin2iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <loppa> shalsum, what?
[02:07] <mifa> loppa: just use vesa they work
[02:08] <loppa> mifa: mjeah, have to deal with it later i spose.
[02:08] <mifa> loppa but you have learnt
[02:08] <ikonia> loppa: or not at all
[02:08] <Costel> is it any hardware channel support on freenode?
[02:08] <_pg> soundray: thanks. I'll go for the makedev first, since my bios doesn't seem to like the mixture of scsi and ide drives for booting from cdrom.
[02:08] <sha1sum> loppa, if the backup configuration doesn't load either, then don't worry about putting the backup back on... on the other hand, if it works at all, continue using it
[02:08] <soundray> _pg: I can definitely say that I've used MO media in a SCSI drive that were mounted via the /dev/sda1 special file.
[02:08] <ikonia> Costel: search for one
[02:08] <Costel> :(
[02:08] <CoolCubix> hello, I compile my own kernel recently but, my PCMCIA card, being a USB2.0 hub, isn't recognized at all... I'm trying to figure out what I could have miss on my kernel configuration, has someone any idea ?
[02:08] <Costel> i'm bad with english
[02:08] <loppa> shalsum backup works.
[02:08] <Costel> i will not know witch is it
[02:08] <ikonia> CoolCubix: missed out usb support
[02:08] <sha1sum> ok so why the problems?
[02:08] <ikonia> CoolCubix: if you're building your own kernels - you should know this
[02:08] <betatux> Question , How do I configure X to make use of Dual Monitors ?
[02:09] <ikonia> Costel: I don't know - you'll have to search
[02:09] <ikonia> betatux: what video card are you using
[02:09] <_pg> I've used the MO drive on linux before, but that was some older debian. So I know it works, too. The missing sd* devices confused me
[02:09] <loppa> cya
[02:09] <mifa> i am leaving. good luck and have a nice weekend
[02:09] <betatux> ikonia Geforce 7800
[02:09] <ikonia>  betatux then you can either use xinerma or twinview
[02:09] <Turgon> Costel: The channel is called hardware =)
[02:09] <CoolCubix> ikonia> my laptop also has one USB 1.1 port, and this one is recognized
[02:09] <betatux> ikonia oke i'll have a look at those
[02:09] <CoolCubix> ikonia> it can't be lack of usb support
[02:09] <ikonia> CoolCubix: maybe missed pcmcia support ?
[02:09] <ekimus> hmm where do i turn off tty's? like it can be found in the inittab in other distros?
[02:10] <ikonia> maybe broke udev support
[02:10] <sha1sum> ikonia, little typo
[02:10] <sha1sum> ikonia, it's xinerama
[02:10] <CoolCubix> ikonia> I am able to load pcmcia_core module
[02:10] <ikonia> sha1sum: ta
[02:10] <ekimus> ?inittab
[02:10] <sha1sum> betatux, it's actually xinerama
[02:10] <ikonia> CoolCubix: but usb pcmcia gadgets ?
[02:10] <betatux> sha1sum, yea i figured that :D
[02:10] <CoolCubix> ikonia> hmm gonna check
[02:10] <ikonia> CoolCubix: why did you compile your own kernel ?
[02:10] <Kioshen> CoolCubix, was your card working using the stock kernel ?
[02:10] <sha1sum> betatux, xinerama is usually for extending your desktop over two monitors, whereas twinview is most of the time used for "cloning" your system (viewing the same thing on 2 screen)
[02:10] <sha1sum> s
[02:11] <ikonia> sha1sum: both can be used for both
[02:11] <sha1sum> ikonia, yeah but one is better than the other for each
[02:11] <sha1sum> heh
[02:11] <sha1sum> :D
[02:11] <sha1sum> like xinerama sucks for cloning
[02:11] <ikonia> twinview is good for nothing
[02:11] <sha1sum> I've tried it before heh
[02:11] <CoolCubix> Kioshen> yes it was fully recognize
[02:11] <ikonia> I've had no problems with xinerma cloning
[02:11] <ikonia> CoolCubix: why did you build your own kernel
[02:11] <CoolCubix> ikonia> no real reason... maybe the taste of fun
[02:11] <sha1sum> really?  hmmm... maybe I'll have to grab your config
[02:11] <heathen> morning
[02:11] <ikonia> CoolCubix: more fool you then
[02:11] <sha1sum> seeing as how I just gave up on dual anyway and I'm on my laptop
[02:11] <ikonia> CoolCubix: you've broke your distro
[02:12] <CoolCubix> ikonia> also to remove every module i don't need
[02:12] <sha1sum> would love to be able to use my 19" lcd hehehe
[02:12] <ikonia> CoolCubix: why ?
[02:12] <Lucas_> can anyone help me?
[02:12] <ikonia> CoolCubix: modules take up little space
[02:12] <CoolCubix> ikonia> no problem, grub can boot on my previous kernel
[02:12] <ikonia> CoolCubix: super - problem solved
[02:12] <_pg> soundray: thanks! makedev sda worked fine! Just wondering why it wasn't there before
[02:12] <sha1sum> CoolCubix, the kernel only loads the modules it needs, even if built in
[02:12] <ikonia> Lucas_: I didn't see your question
[02:12] <CoolCubix> sha1sum> yes, i know
[02:13] <Kioshen> CoolCubix, have you checked in the usb section for your particular device
[02:13] <sha1sum> CoolCubix, I'm not seeing the need here, but it's your system heh ;)
[02:13] <Lucas_> i started ubuntu but doesn't let me in because does'tn recognize mi user
[02:13] <ikonia> Lucas_: have you forgot the password ?
[02:13] <CoolCubix> sha1sum> there's no need, indeed :)
[02:13] <Lucas_> no i did't
[02:13] <CoolCubix> Kioshen> it's a standard pcmcia usb2 hub
[02:13] <sha1sum> CoolCubix, well why didn't you just say it was for s&g's hehehe
[02:13] <sha1sum> I do that all the time
[02:13] <ikonia> Lucas_: either the username or password is wrong
[02:13] <sha1sum> perfectly sane :D *maybe*
[02:14] <Lucas_> i don't think so it is the same i used the last sesion
[02:14] <ikonia> lucas maybe your keyboard map is wrong
[02:14] <omeil> Makefile:31: *** You'll need sources for your (at least 2.6.16) kernel.  Stop.
[02:14] <omeil> whats that mean?
[02:14] <Lucas_> what does it means?
[02:14] <sha1sum> speaking of kernel, does anybody know how to filter out kernel changelogs for speed improvements?
[02:14] <ikonia> omeil: it means you need source the the 2.6.16 kernel
[02:14] <ikonia> its pretty clear
[02:14] <omeil> yea
[02:14] <omeil> but where to update?
[02:14] <sha1sum> in other words, when a new kernel revision is released, how to filter out all the unneeded changes in the changelog and just look at the performance-related changes?
[02:14] <Spliffster> anyone here with _autofs_ knowledge ?
[02:14] <ikonia> omeil: what are you doing ?
[02:15] <sha1sum> Spliffster, somewhat
[02:15] <omeil> trying to make file
[02:15] <sku|work> omeil: you need later kernel (at least 2.6.16)
[02:15] <sha1sum> Spliffster, I have much better knowledge of rolling spliffs tho
[02:15] <sha1sum> hehehe
[02:15] <sha1sum> :D
[02:15] <Lucas_> and what can i do to change the keaboard map?
[02:15] <ikonia> omeil: make what ?
[02:15] <sku|work> install headers
[02:15] <ikonia> Lucas_: you select it at install time
[02:15] <omeil> cdemu-0.8
[02:15] <Lucas_> so i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[02:15] <Spliffster> sha1sum: same here, thats why i ended up here instead of trying to understand the man page
[02:15] <ikonia> Lucas_: if you have no username and password - yes
[02:15] <sha1sum> Spliffster, lol
[02:16] <sha1sum> Spliffster, it's either (a) laziness, or (b) can't-do-it-too-stonededness
[02:16] <Lucas_> there is some way to enter as root to solve the problem?
[02:16] <ikonia> Lucas_: no - there is no root password
[02:16] <Lucas_> ok thanks
[02:16] <Kioshen> CoolCubix, I guess the fast way to detect which driver to build is to boot in your working kernel, type lsmod and spot the driver for your card
[02:16] <sha1sum> Spliffster, so what are you wanting to accomplish?
[02:16] <CoolCubix> Kioshen> i was thinking about this
[02:16] <Kioshen> CoolCubix, edit your config for your personnal kernel and comb the usb section
[02:17] <CoolCubix> Kioshen> okay
[02:17] <SamePaulNB> how to start keyring daemon?
[02:17] <Spliffster> i have a problem with autofs. all the home directories are amouted via nfs under /home. some project based directories hsould be mounted unter /hhome/project. these projects are splattered arround the machines in the network. this is where autofs should serve. however, if the base direcory of a map is an nfs mounted filesystem, autofs seems to refuse to work without any error message. if the base directory of the map is on a local drive
[02:17] <SamePaulNB> KEYRING!
[02:17] <SamePaulNB> nobody knows?
[02:17] <ikonia> no
[02:17] <SamePaulNB> ok
[02:18] <wolfeySI> does somebody know what these xorg modules do?
[02:18] <wolfeySI> is there a list?
[02:18] <_pg> all: I can't remeber the name of the program to erase a disk (with random bytes). Any hint?
[02:18] <ikonia> wolfeySI: /join #xorg - or view www.x.org
[02:18] <ikonia> _pg: dd ?
[02:18] <Kioshen> _pg, shred ?
[02:19] <Kioshen> _pg, IIRC shred is for files only
[02:19] <Spliffster> bah the thc ;-P
[02:19] <_pg> ikonia: dd is an option, of course
[02:20] <wolfeySI> ikonia: something is wrong with this... xorg doesnt repaint window on dragging
[02:20] <wolfeySI> neither when i drop it
[02:21] <ikonia> wolfeySI: poor driver support ?
[02:22] <fredl> hi guys. Anybody know what's a good channel to ask some questions about KTorrent?
[02:22] <omeil> how do u tell what kernel source u have the verions?
[02:22] <omeil> version*
[02:22] <stinkychild> hi all. anybody know if the ubuntu installer is able to resize an existing windows partition?
[02:22] <HymnToLife> it is
[02:22] <stinkychild> sweet
[02:22] <stinkychild> ty
[02:22] <wolfeySI> ikonia: yeah, trident ... i read on net im not only one with problems
[02:22] <fredl> stinkychild, you can increase the size of a windows partition yes...
[02:22] <fredl> but I don't think you can increase the size of the filesystem on it.
[02:22] <omeil> or decrease :)
[02:22] <stinkychild> decrease also i suppose?
[02:23] <fredl> or can it?
[02:23] <omeil> i think it can
[02:23] <Conrad_> Hi! I've heard that I need to download a special version of Ubuntu that works with Ati Radeon mobile video cards. I looked on the Ubuntu download website but I couldn't find it. Can someone point me to the right direction?
[02:23] <omeil> well u can resize something :)
[02:23] <stinkychild> (i have one disk, two ntfs partitions. one needs to be smaller to make room for linux partitions)
[02:23] <HymnToLife> Conrad_, there is no special version of Ubuntu for Ati cards
[02:23] <fredl> Conrad_ not a special version, you just need to install ATI drivers.
[02:24] <_pg> Kioshen: thanks, I try with shred now (the entire disk) and reformat afterwards
[02:24] <Conrad_> but when i try to install the newest ubuntu, I get black screen while installng
[02:24] <Kioshen> _pg, wait I think there is a live cd for this
[02:24] <omeil> conrad does the monitor go on standby?
[02:24] <_pg> Kioshen: can't use live cd here
[02:25] <Conrad_> it just turns off
[02:25] <Kioshen> _pg, http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[02:25] <Conrad_> i guess it is stand by
[02:25] <Nalleman> hi, just wander if im supposed to use gksudo if i want to launch synaptic with terminal?
[02:25] <fredl> Conrad_, you might want to try installing from the alternate CD. I had problems installing as well with an ATI card. Later on I added the ATI drivers separately and that worked fine.
[02:25] <Kioshen> _pg, floppy then ?
[02:25] <Conrad_> fredl: where can I find this alternate CD?
[02:26] <_pg> Kioshen: I'll use shred to delete  removable media, so I don't think I need this
[02:26] <omeil> its just having trouble identifying your videocard so instead of changing to vesa it decides to turn off -_-
[02:26] <sha1sum> Nalleman, you should be able to use regular]  sudo
[02:26] <fredl> google for Ubuntu alternate Conrad_
[02:26] <sha1sum> Nalleman, but if you're making a script, it won't work
[02:26] <fredl> Conrad_ should just be where the regular CD image is.
[02:26] <sha1sum> Nalleman, as long as you're always running it FROM a terminal , then it's fine
[02:26] <omeil> fredl can't he try to configure the xorg.conf and change it to vesa?
[02:26] <Conrad_> fredl: thanks, i will try
[02:27] <fredl> omeil, ofcourse, why not.
[02:27] <sha1sum> omeil, sorry ;I didn't see you announce your vieo card..... :?
[02:27] <omeil> fredl: was just thinking that might fix conrads problem.
[02:27] <fredl> Conrad_ that's worth a try what omeil says and might save you the download time.
[02:28] <omeil> fredl: thats the problem i had. and changing the xorg.conf fixed it.
[02:28] <Nalleman> sha1sum, what is the difference then between sudo and gksudo?
[02:28] <sha1sum> ] ahhh okay this is conrad
[02:28] <wolfeySI> btw can i break loading kdm and xorg ? i configured wrong
[02:28] <sha1sum> gotcha
[02:28] <fredl> omeil, I think I remember that the problem was that 6.10 tries to install in graphics mode, period, so how could he change the xorg.conf?
[02:28] <wolfeySI> ctrl-alt+f1 ?:)
[02:28] <fredl> that might work, don't remember if I tried that myself.
[02:29] <Conrad_> fredl: i'm a complete newbie in linux, should i try to change it at the boot screen?
[02:29] <omeil> fredl:he could sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:29] <wolfeySI> damn now xorg doesnt show picture, neither i can switch to terminal :(
[02:29] <omeil> that should bring up a xorg.conf editing thingy :) and he needs to change the vid card to vesa
[02:29] <wolfeySI> any idea what i can do rather than network boot again?
[02:30] <fredl> omeil, he could instead just vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P~
[02:30] <m0rk> morning folks.
[02:30] <chiefbearclaw> morning
[02:30] <sha1sum> Nalleman, ;;;one asks for the pass in txt mode and the other in a gui window
[02:30] <m0rk> are ubuntu update servers down this morning?
[02:30] <m0rk> i can't seem to connect AT ALL
[02:30] <sha1sum> ;argh this damn "indestructible keyboard" has some major semicolon sensitivity
[02:31] <sha1sum> heh
[02:31] <sha1sum> one of the flexible sealed ones
[02:31] <Kioshen> Nalleman, when you run a gui apps it's better to use gksudo
[02:31] <m0rk> using either synaptic or Aptitude, neither will comeplete update listings.
[02:31] <omeil> fredl: but then he will need to enter in console mode right?
[02:33] <Conrad_> fredl: I have found alternate but I would appreciate if you tell me the other way with normal Ubuntu, since I have stupid download limit imposed by my ISP so using the normal version would help me
[02:33] <Kioshen> Nalleman, for more details check here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[02:33] <sha1sum> then there's also kdesu
[02:33] <timon> Why i get all time Xserver error when i want to install Ubuntu or Mandriva?!
[02:33] <chiefbearclaw> m0rk: have you been tinkering with you sources.list any?  (and synaptic and apt are strictly repositories to my understanding) not "update" servers say in regards to System > Administration > Software Updates.
[02:33] <sha1sum> but some gui apps will detect the sudo run from command-line and ask in a gui window, but some won't
[02:33] <m0rk> well, even the update manager won't connect
[02:34] <m0rk> and, no, i haven't touched the sources.
[02:34] <sha1sum> so if you know it's graphical (the executable), then use gksudo
[02:34] <m0rk> *list
[02:34] <Nalleman> Kioshen, thanx
[02:34] <chiefbearclaw> hmm I dunno bud
[02:34] <m0rk> yeah, i can't figure it out either
[02:34] <m0rk> maybe my isp has it blocked for some reason
[02:34] <sha1sum> m0rk, what is ifconfig giving you?
[02:35] <m0rk> what would ifconfig have to do with update sources?
[02:35] <sha1sum> ok nm I'm assuming you checked the ping capabilities and all so nm ;)
[02:35] <sha1sum> heh
[02:35] <m0rk> i'm on the machine that won't update
[02:35] <sha1sum> I kind of started tracking that conversation at the "I can't figure it out" statement
[02:35] <m0rk> and there's another right next to it that won't either
[02:35] <sha1sum> I at least like to attempt to help the person heh
[02:35] <Pelo> morning folks
[02:35] <m0rk> sha1sum: thanks, but i'm not sure what is causing this
[02:36] <m0rk> this is a first
[02:36] <chiefbearclaw> g'morn Pelo
[02:36] <snille>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[02:36] <sha1sum> m0rk, can you go to the servers using http?
[02:36] <jmazaredo> im in the middle of upgrading using apt-get dist-upgrade system halted when i try to use apt again it said i must run dpkg manual
[02:36] <sha1sum> m0rk, (trying to weed out content filtering here)
[02:36] <m0rk> sha1sum: i can get to canonical
[02:36] <sha1sum> herm
[02:37] <m0rk> but why two mahcines sitting next to each other are having update connection problems is beyond me
[02:37] <v4m21> hi I removed some packages using "apt-get remove" command but when do dpkg -l  the removed packages are still listed with rc prefix is there any way to remove those config files ?
[02:37] <chiefbearclaw> Pelo there are some good instruction videos on google video that may provide useful info.  Forums of course too!  Its a heavily covered topic.
[02:37] <sha1sum> m0rk, same machines hardware-wise?
[02:37] <linuxnewbie756> does anyone know how to disable ipv6 in dapper?
[02:37] <linuxnewbie756> globally, that is
[02:37] <Pelo> I have an 80gig hd, 1 gig of ram,  I'm thinking 10gig for  progs and the rest for /home/,  I was wondering if I was suppose to make the extended partition for the swap or give some extra in the space in the prog partition
[02:38] <m0rk> sha1sum: nope, a thinkpad t40 and an hp nx6110
[02:38] <jmazaredo> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. i get this error using apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:38] <sha1sum> yeah definitely sounds like a network problem to me
[02:38] <m0rk> that's what i was thinking
[02:38] <chiefbearclaw> not 100% but ipv6 disabled can cause more problems than it is worth.. having it enabled to a connection that does not support it will not cause any issues to my knowledge.
[02:38] <m0rk> i keep getting traffic from canonical in the firewall
[02:38] <m0rk> no matter what rule i set, i keep getting "warnings"
[02:39] <lesshaste> how do you connect to a wpa access point?  The network manager doesn't seem to have any wpa options
[02:39] <sha1sum> m0rk, what's your gateway's IP? maybe you can successfully get an OS version off of it or something
[02:39] <v4m21> there are some packages listed with prefix "rc"  when I issue "dpkg -l"  is there any way to purge these uninstalled packages ?
[02:39] <m0rk> sha1sum: i'm on dhcp so it changes frequently
[02:39] <lesshaste> has anyone here managed to connect to a wpa network?
[02:39] <Kioshen> v4m21, use aptitude purge *package*
[02:39] <v4m21> thanks
[02:39] <m0rk> lesshaste: no
[02:40] <Kioshen> lesshaste, yes
[02:40] <sha1sum> I'm thinking if it's a linux gateway, they might have the update sources blocked to prevent normal users from updating it mischieviously (sp:?)
[02:40] <m0rk> wpa is not fully supported at this point?
[02:40] <lesshaste> Kioshen: cool.. how do you do it?
[02:40] <sha1sum> (I meant external gateway)
[02:40] <lesshaste> Kioshen: Maybe I am just using the wrong network manager ?
[02:40] <Kioshen> lesshaste, i'm lazy so I used network-manager
[02:40] <y3it221_klce> whats the command for mounting NTFS with write permissions
[02:40] <m0rk> sha1sum: not sure
[02:41] <v4m21> Kioshen thank you very much.
[02:41] <sha1sum> lesshaste, what release are you using and what type of WLAN card on what type of interface?
[02:41] <omeil> !ntfs
[02:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:41] <lesshaste> Kioshen: I'll try installing that
[02:41] <lesshaste> sha1sum: 6.10...  madwifi is installed and seems to be working
[02:42] <sha1sum> are you getting an IP w;ith ifconfig?
[02:42] <omeil> !ntfs-3g | y3it221_klce
[02:42] <ubotu> y3it221_klce: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:42] <sha1sum> if it's even listed
[02:42] <m0rk> sha1sum: just my internal masked ip
[02:42] <m0rk> 192.168.1.7
[02:42] <sha1sum> m0rk, static?
[02:43] <m0rk> nope, dhcp
[02:43] <lesshaste> sha1sum: no.. It is listed but I haven't worked out how to get it to try to connect to wpa yet
[02:43] <sha1sum> m0rk, whoops actually was asking lesshaste
[02:43] <sha1sum> lol sorry
[02:43] <lesshaste> sha1sum: dynamic
[02:43] <m0rk> sha1sum: ah, np.
[02:43] <lesshaste> Kioshen: I have installed network-manager... how do you run it?
[02:43] <sha1sum> lesshaste, what is it listed as?
[02:44] <sha1sum> lesshaste, should be in your system control center if i remember correctly
[02:44] <lesshaste> sha1sum: ath0
[02:44] <Kioshen> lesshaste, forgot to tell your to install network-manager-gnome too after that alt-f2 and type nm-applet
[02:44] <sha1sum> could be wrong tho :D
[02:44] <m0rk> sha1sum: it stops when connecting to archive.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <bob__> hi, whats the best firewall for Ubuntu?
[02:44] <sha1sum> bob__, hardware
[02:44] <sha1sum> heh
[02:44] <m0rk> bob__: i like firestarter
[02:44] <bob__> sha1sum: very true, okay whats the best software firewall for ubuntu?
[02:44] <aardvark_972> hello
[02:45] <Kioshen> bob__, firestarter works well if you don't want to get your hands dirty
[02:45] <bob__> okay sounds call
[02:45] <bob__> okay sounds cool
[02:45] <bob__> got a URL? thanks
[02:45] <sha1sum> bob__, yeah I agree with Kioshen.;..;.; if you want configurability then get shorewall
[02:45] <aardvark_972> does anyone have any idea how to make an ibm t40 laptop with a cisco aironet built-in wifi card work on ubuntu?
[02:45] <m0rk> bob__: it's in synaptic
[02:45] <sha1sum> bob__, run apt-cache show firestarter
[02:45] <selinuxium> hi all, i have just attached another hd to my system to check the files, how do I determine what the hd is know to the system?
[02:45] <chiefbearclaw> Am I correct in saying that really what your downloading is a GUI and features to a firewall that is already 'enabled' downloading something like firestart.. etc.?
[02:45] <lesshaste> Kioshen: ok.. i did that... I can see the little icon .. what now?
[02:46] <Angelus> hi guys
[02:46] <Kioshen> aardvark_972, aironet are supported by madwifi-ng in ubuntu
[02:46] <sha1sum> lesshaste, ahhh goodie goodie; should just have to left-click to select network in that dropdown list there, if it found any
[02:46] <Angelus> was looking for some help in setting up a web server
[02:46] <bob__> sha1sum: I had lokkit, but when I ran the config command from the shell nothing happened
[02:46] <Kioshen> lesshaste, click on it and you should have enough options to get yourself connected
[02:46] <Nalleman> When trying to watch streaming video the I get the message that windows media video 9 is not handled. How will I get around this?
[02:46] <Conrad_> omeil: when i talked with fredl, you mentioned something about VESA- my problem was black screen while installing on toshiba with ati radeon x700; could you give me a hint how i should proceed with it (i'm just starting my adventure with linux ;) )
[02:46] <aardvark_972> Kioshen: being somewhat a newb, could i ask you for more info onb this one?
[02:46] <lesshaste> it only lists the wired network
[02:47] <linuxnewbie756> how can i globally disable ipv6?
[02:47] <Kioshen> lesshaste, click on the icon and select connect to other other wireless network
[02:47] <m0rk> lesshaste: where it says eth0 replace manually with 'eth1'
[02:47] <sha1sum> bob__, see if the config maybe has a -v or -V switch for verbosity
[02:47] <th1> Hi.. what's the best iTunes like software for Linux? I prefer KDE apps but JuK is not very good
[02:47] <omeil> conrad_: PRivate message<<<
[02:47] <Kioshen> lesshaste, type your network information and it should connect
[02:47] <sha1sum> (or something else)
[02:47] <m0rk> your wireless will pop up immediate;y
[02:47] <sha1sum> yeah network-manager is phat
[02:47] <aardvark_972> from what i have read on madwifi.org it seems to be written for the intel card; my t40 comeswith a cisco one
[02:47] <bob__> sha1sum: the bash did not even see the file although it was there, ls c* shows it, but it wont run it :\
[02:48] <Kioshen> th1, for kde apps try amarok for gnome banshee
[02:48] <sha1sum> except no matter how hard i try it won't automatically connect to unsecured networks
[02:48] <m0rk> ANYONE: who's using FVWM - Crystal?
[02:48] <m0rk> best wm EVAR
[02:48] <sha1sum> it's in roam mode, but it must be a security thing
[02:48] <kungfuhamster> anyone here know a good deal about DVD burning? I keep getting errors, and the stack of coasters I currently have next to me is really beginning to piss me off...
[02:48] <lesshaste> Kioshen: with left click the only option is wired network. With right click the options are  enable networking, connection information, about
[02:48] <iniakulohhahaha> hello
[02:48] <kungfuhamster> Whenever I try to burn any info to a DVD, the burning process ends up dying with this error: :-[ WRITE@LBA=5dc20h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument
[02:48] <th1> Kioshen, thanks I'll try those :)
[02:49] <sha1sum> lesshaste, do you have two icons or one?
[02:49] <kungfuhamster> I've tried with both gnomebaker and k3b, both die out at the same spot with the same error
[02:49] <lesshaste> sha1sum: one. .. in the top left.. I am in xfce
[02:49] <Conrad_> omeil: then i have to register since PM are only for registered users
[02:49] <Angelus> what can I use for a web server?
[02:49] <lesshaste> sha1sum: top right...
[02:49] <Dzafer> Cavte LAmi :)
[02:49] <sha1sum> yeah definitely check out the enable networking option
[02:49] <sha1sum> heh
[02:49] <omeil> u have msn or yahoo?
[02:49] <sha1sum> connection information is similar to the windows "Status" box
[02:49] <sha1sum> but better
[02:49] <Kioshen> Angelus, apache, cherokee, lighttpd
[02:50] <iniakulohhahaha> how to make my client ( network ) can access http://server/ ? cause rite now only can browse using http://192.168.1.254
[02:50] <lesshaste> sha1sum: that just turns on the wired networking
[02:50] <Dzafer> ekto kto vie po Slovensky alebo po Cesky? ci Rusky ?
[02:50] <lesshaste> sha1sum: is there something else I need to do?
[02:50] <Kioshen> lesshaste, I never tried nm in xfce
[02:50] <linuxnewbie756> anything interesting to try in ubuntu? i am geting bored with it, and i love projects that take a day or two
[02:50] <Dzafer> asi nie lebo vy ste taky blbci ze?
[02:50] <Dzafer> :D
[02:50] <Dzafer> ok
[02:51] <sha1sum> linuxnewbie756, try the feisty release if you haven't
[02:51] <Kioshen> linuxnewbie756, have you tried learning python and even better help test feisty ?
[02:51] <express-ubuntu> Available commands: admin bugzilla cy detect en feed fortune fr google help is jp pkg stats time weather whatis
[02:51] <m0rk> sha1sum: is feisty after edgy?
[02:51] <sha1sum> yeah
[02:51] <express-ubuntu> detect
[02:51] <sha1sum> I'm using it now
[02:51] <m0rk> ahm i've got it
[02:51] <sha1sum> wlan was automatically setup
[02:51] <linuxnewbie756> python, isn't that like programming language?
[02:51] <express-ubuntu> help
[02:51] <sha1sum> I booted into the install livecd and had a wlan connect immediately
[02:52] <Tsool> Hiya folks. Couple of questions regarding the Ubuntu Edgy live/install CD. First, I'm having troubles activating my wireless network when I start the system from the CD. I know that wireless networking is kinda cranky under Linux - is it very hard to run from a livecd?
[02:52] <m0rk> sha1sum: when i was using dapper, at some point, update sources became obsolete and I could not connect
[02:52] <Kioshen> iniakulohhahaha, configure a local DNS server or manually edit your /etc/hosts file
[02:52] <sha1sum> on a laptop (which are notoriously bad when combined with linux -- relative to desktops)
[02:52] <Nalleman> Anyone. When Im trying to watch streaming video the I get the message that windows media video 9 is not handled. How will I get around this problem? Help please.
[02:52] <m0rk> sha1sum: this is almost the same situation with updates
[02:52] <Mattias> !remove scim
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove scim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Kioshen> linuxnewbie756, yeah
[02:52] <bob__> sha1sum: when I do apt-get install firestarter I get a permission denied and it asks if I am root?
[02:52] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : i did, but it still not working
[02:52] <Tsool> Secondly, can I run an XDMCP-connection to another computer, using the livecd?
[02:52] <linuxnewbie756> kioshen, so what can i do with it if i learn it, and how can i learn it?
[02:52] <Mattias> Anyone know how i can remove scim? it kinda doesnt want to get killed and can't remove it after installing japanese support
[02:53] <Kioshen> linuxnewbie756, you can program stuff and go to python.org for ressources
[02:53] <omeil> conrad_: you still here?
[02:53] <omeil> keller: you still here?
[02:53] <keller> omeil: yes
[02:53] <sha1sum> Nalleman, try looking at http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[02:54] <Kioshen> iniakulohhahaha, the command dig is your friend for debugging DNS resolution
[02:54] <jmazaredo> how do u fix kernel problem   crc
[02:54] <omeil> keller: follow this http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=88284
[02:54] <sha1sum> keep in mind that using the codecs against the developers' agreements may be illegal in your area (blah blah blah...)
[02:54] <Kioshen> linuxnewbie756, but if you're bored you can try feisty and help report or fix bugs
[02:54] <omeil> k_keller: follow this http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=88284
[02:55] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : is there something that i need to configure for dig ?
[02:55] <lesshaste_> ok... so for whatever reason nm-applet is not giving me any wireless options at all
[02:55] <linuxnewbie756> does it have live cd?i really don't want to write anything to my hd, but, reporting bugs wouldn't work too well, can't try much of a lve cd.
[02:55] <sha1sum> jmazaredo, did you change your hard drive paritions, boot sectors, anything?
[02:55] <jmazaredo> no just used dist-upgrade
[02:55] <sha1sum> and it didn't hold back anything?
[02:56] <k_keller> omeil: thank you so much, I really appreciate your time and effort!!!
[02:56] <Thug-N-Me> need help ... my dvd doesnt eject anymore .. any idea ? there is no disc inserted
[02:56] <Kioshen> iniakulohhahaha, dig is a command for making DNS queries. by querying dig server you can know if the DNS resolution is working
[02:56] <m0rk> sha1sum: should I be getting flooded with incoming traffic from prat.canonical.com?
[02:56] <m0rk> port 54089 on eth1
[02:56] <jmazaredo> some program still not installed it is prompting when i use ubuntu update manager, and it said im up to date
[02:56] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : there is no IN A ip(s)
[02:57] <omeil> k_keller: I just wrote that lol :) just thought it would be easier in that format then me explaining it lol
[02:57] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : where should i edit the IN A ?
[02:57] <Kioshen> if it's for a local workstation edit your /etc/hosts file
[02:57] <k_keller> omeil: i noticed you put your name and i figured it out you wrote it :) thanks a lot!
[02:58] <lesshaste_> where do you set Startup prefs?
[02:58] <Nalleman> sha1sum, Don't understand how this will help?
[02:58] <aarohi> whats the address of that pasting site?
[02:59] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : 192.168.1.254   Excelsior excelsior
[02:59] <andre> !anjuta
[02:59] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[02:59] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : done, but still not work
[02:59] <andre> Anyone have any experience with Anjuta?
[02:59] <sha1sum> jmazaredo, try 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k kernelstringgoeshereex-2.6.20'
[02:59] <lesshaste_> I am looking for Startup prefs/Advanced options
[02:59] <lesshaste_> where are they?
[02:59] <andre> I'm having issues with Anjuta
[03:00] <sha1sum> Nalleman, wma and wmv codecs are disabled due to licensing by default
[03:00] <sha1sum> Nalleman, you have to find restricted sources that provide the codecs
[03:00] <sha1sum> and that is one of them
[03:00] <m0rk> sha1sum: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.8). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[03:00] <m0rk> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.8). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[03:00] <kungfuhamster> does anyone know how to fix this gnomebaker error: "WRITE@LBA=5dc20h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument" The stack of coasters I've made so far is really beginning to get annoying...   :)
[03:00] <sha1sum> m0rk, I get that as well
[03:00] <m0rk> oh sweet
[03:00] <jmazaredo> shalsum , update-initramfs: command not found
[03:00] <sha1sum> but it seemingly still works
[03:00] <m0rk> that's good news.
[03:00] <m0rk> well, not 'good' news
[03:00] <omeil> has anyone done the !ntfs-3g
[03:01] <sha1sum> jmazaredo, 'apt-get install initramfs-tools'
[03:01] <gnomefreak> m0rk: use gb.archive.ubuntu.com....
[03:01] <m0rk> but confirmed status is nice
[03:01] <sha1sum> jmazaredo, then try again
[03:01] <sha1sum> gnomefreak, nice tip thx :D
[03:01] <sha1sum> heh
[03:01] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:01] <Nalleman> sha1sum, how?
[03:01] <lesshaste_> ok.. I am stuck.. how do I get wpa working in xfce?
[03:02] <a5benwillis> .
[03:02] <a5benwillis> Good Morning. When I connect to SSH and enter my password the "prompt" is never displayed. It just sits there on the client side. When I check the auth.log on the server I see that the login was authenticated successfully. The last thing in the log is "do_pam_account: called".
[03:02] <a5benwillis>  .
[03:02] <a5benwillis>  Anyone have an idea where to look?
[03:02] <sha1sum> oops I guess that would be the other .list file
[03:03] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: you get that firewall thing sorted yet?
[03:04] <Kioshen> iniakulohhahaha, i'm probably missing something obvious but i'm used to have a server with dnsmasq that takes care of that
[03:04] <Kioshen> iniakulohhahaha, repost your question since i have to go sorry
[03:04] <sha1sum> lesshaste, look at ndiswrapper I'm guessing
[03:04] <kane77> hi
[03:04] <sha1sum> !ndiswrapper
[03:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:04] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: no not yet
[03:05] <lesshaste> sha1sum: the driver seems to work.. I mean the wireless card is listed in systems-> networking
[03:05] <iniakulohhahaha> Kioshen : where should i edit the IN A ? | when i type dig excelsior | ;excelsior.                     IN      A | ps: excelsior = my server name | my /etc/hosts => 192.168.1.254   Excelsior excelsior
[03:05] <lesshaste> sha1sum: the problem is just finding some software to configure wpsa
[03:05] <lesshaste> wpa
[03:05] <jmazaredo> shalsum , /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-6-386 was been altered.  Cannot update
[03:05] <sha1sum> a5benwillis, you might be needing to check the default shell for ssh users... I think it might be indicated separately
[03:06] <sha1sum> lesshaste, can you verify a signal ?
[03:06] <reubs> Hi, does anyone knowabout sshd?
[03:06] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: this may help http://www.ubufied.com/2006/11/12/how-to-install-a-firewall-in-ubuntu-linux/ however you may get the same error.  If so please stick around and keep asking.  This channel gets to be a mad house.  Can be in the middle of answering someone and they disconnect.
[03:06] <chiefbearclaw> So ya'll stick around and keep asking!  Don't ask and leave in 5 minutes.
[03:07] <sha1sum> chiefbearclaw, werd
[03:07] <sha1sum> :D
[03:07] <davidwinter> where's the cheapest place in the UK to buy a OS-less laptop?
[03:07] <chiefbearclaw> xD
[03:08] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Which ATI-driver should i install? xfree86 och x.org ???
[03:08] <a5benwillis> shalsum: I dont understand how do I check that.
[03:08] <sha1sum> davidwinter, just look up in google:  linux laptop insite:.uk
[03:09] <sha1sum> a5benwillis, I don't mess around with ssh alot so I can't really tell you, I just vaguely recall a separate shell specification
[03:09] <fredl> christ, ktorrent is sloooooow...
[03:09] <iniakulohhahaha> anyone can help me ?
[03:09] <iniakulohhahaha> how to make my client ( network ) can access http://server/ ? cause rite now only can browse using http://192.168.1.254
[03:09] <sha1sum> davidwinter, or if you really want no os, then lookup something similar (etc.)
[03:09] <HymnToLife> iniakulohhahaha, edit /etc/host to se the IP/host correspondance
[03:10] <kungfuhamster> does anyone know how to fix this gnomebaker error: "WRITE@LBA=5dc20h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument" The stack of coasters I've made so far is really beginning to get annoying...   :)
[03:10] <HymnToLife> /etc/hosts*
[03:10] <sha1sum> iniakulohhahaha, make sure your primary dns is set to your domain controller's IP
[03:10] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: hey! i solved my dpkg-issue!
[03:10] <iniakulohhahaha> HymnToLife : 192.168.1.254   Excelsior excelsior <-- already pointed
[03:10] <iniakulohhahaha> but still not work
[03:10] <iniakulohhahaha> sha1sum : how to check it ?
[03:10] <Nalleman> sha1sum, Well. now I got the file started, but I can ony hear the sound and only if the window is active. thats wierd huh?
[03:10] <chiefbearclaw> UbuntuNOOB_HBG: please if installing an ATI driver take a look at this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929&highlight=Envy
[03:10] <HymnToLife> UbuntuN00B_HBG, how did you do ?
[03:11] <Angelus> hi guys, I've downloaded apache but I don't know what to do with ti!!??? Please help
[03:11] <kane77> ubuntu started acting weirdly... it deletes my dns servers i have in network configuration. when I enter the dns's it switches from ra0 to eth0 which is wrong (I use ra0 for internet) plus all of this takes _VERY_ long... and when I restart (turn off and on) its again the same (no dns)
[03:11] <reubs> sorry, but ssh takes ~2 minutes to logon can anyone help
[03:11] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: well... i backed up the available and status files in /var/lib/dpkg/ and edited them
[03:11] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: removed all "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic" posts
[03:12] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: got this error E: Couldn't find package firestarte
[03:12] <defrysk> its firestarter
[03:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: then ran a sudo apt-get -f install and voila! everything was ok in apt-get-land again! :D
[03:12] <defrysk> with an r
[03:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HymnToLife: perhaps one ugly mother of a fix... but it worked! ;)
[03:12] <bob__> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:12] <bob__> Reading package lists... Done
[03:12] <bob__> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:12] <bob__> E: Couldn't find package firestarter
[03:13] <defrysk> !info firestarter
[03:13] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[03:13] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: try a..     sudo apt-get update first
[03:13] <foutrelis> meow :)
[03:13] <defrysk> repositories | bob__
[03:13] <chiefbearclaw> oh nvm
[03:13] <defrysk> !repositories | bob__
[03:13] <ubotu> bob__: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:13] <iniakulohhahaha> HymnToLife : 192.168.1.254   Excelsior excelsior <-- already pointed but still not work
[03:13] <iniakulohhahaha> sha1sum : how to check it ?
[03:14] <defrysk> bob__, make sure to set up universe and multiverse
[03:14] <HymnToLife> iniakulohhahaha, thas is set on your client, right ?
[03:14] <iniakulohhahaha> HymnToLife : /etc/hosts
[03:14] <iniakulohhahaha> HymnToLife : that is at /etc/hosts
[03:14] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/85891-unable-install-firestarter.html
[03:14] <HymnToLife> iniakulohhahaha, on which machine ?
[03:15] <iniakulohhahaha> server
[03:15] <chiefbearclaw> bob:__ that guy had your same problem^^
[03:15] <iniakulohhahaha> HymnToLife : server , server name = excelsior
[03:15] <AndrewB> Morning all.
[03:15] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> chiefbearclaw: whats that link... someone is hacking his own drivers?
[03:15] <HymnToLife> it should be on the client
[03:15] <iniakulohhahaha> hmm :(
[03:15] <iniakulohhahaha> i should edit hosts at every client ???
[03:15] <AndrewB> chiefbearclaw: ick ick LinuxForums.Org..
[03:15] <[KotG|Tanuva] > did one of you experience problems getting packages from the repository servers today?
[03:15] <HymnToLife> how is the client supposed to know the name the serve if it's not in it's hosts file ?
[03:16] <HymnToLife> yep, or setup a DNS Server
[03:16] <AndrewB> [KotG|Tanuva] : maybe your local/closest mirror is down.
[03:16] <[KotG|Tanuva] > AndrewB: no, doesnt seem to be that - I can ping the server, but apt is unable to find the package it is supposed to get
[03:17] <reubs> am I missing something? is there a special way to ask a question and get a response? really im new to *nix but want to learn
[03:17] <sha1sum> iniakulohhahaha, use the network icon in the notification area to view configuration
[03:17] <sha1sum> if you have xorg working
[03:17] <chiefbearclaw> UbuntuNOOB_HBG: no the guy wrote a nice utility to make installing the latest ati / nvidia drivers a piece of cake.  I had ultra success with a very troubling problem with my ATI card and that was my solution.  I tried it all.
[03:17] <AndrewB> reubs: what is your question.
[03:17] <iniakulohhahaha> sha1sum : im on console mode
[03:17] <sha1sum> I can't remember what the file is that specifies it
[03:17] <sha1sum> Ive been gui for a long time
[03:17] <sha1sum> heh
[03:17] <foutrelis> specify what? :)
[03:17] <reubs> AndrewB: i have a small prob with ssh
[03:17] <sha1sum> dns server
[03:17] <sha1sum> on a client
[03:17] <AndrewB> reubs: ask away :)
[03:18] <sha1sum> (static)
[03:18] <foutrelis> hmm /etc/network/interfaces maybe? nto sure
[03:18] <foutrelis> *not
[03:18] <AndrewB> it is foutrelis iirc
[03:18] <AndrewB> !network
[03:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:18] <AndrewB> not wirless
[03:18] <AndrewB> hmm
[03:19] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> chiefbearclaw: well then... THNX! ill take a look at it!:)
[03:19] <iniakulohhahaha> ?
[03:19] <kungfuhamster> does anyone know how to fix this gnomebaker error: "WRITE@LBA=5dc20h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument" The stack of coasters I've made so far is really beginning to get annoying...   :)
[03:19] <reubs> thanks. my ssh takes about 2 minutes to respond, im not sure whats happening, i have already turned off reverse look up
[03:19] <xtknight> mornin' ;)
[03:19] <lesshaste> sha1sum: yes,,  I am right next to the router
[03:20] <lesshaste> sha1sum: that's not the problem
[03:20] <yomm>  I'm trying Edgu on ppc G3 and yhe tab autocomplete totally freaks out when there are spaces involved ...the\ normal\ way\ doesn't\ work\ ! I tried :  "/path/path 2/" as well.. any ideas ?
[03:20] <sha1sum> iniakulohhahaha, run 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[03:20] <AndrewB> reubs: try looking at http://kilana.unibe.ch:8080/SCG/438
[03:20] <lesshaste> sha1sum: the problem is simply that nm-applet doesn't seem to be working the way we expected
[03:20] <sha1sum> see what it says
[03:20] <iniakulohhahaha> root@Excelsior:/data# cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:20] <iniakulohhahaha> nameserver 202.149.64.138
[03:21] <reubs> thanks andrewb :)
[03:21] <lesshaste> sha1sum: see what it says?
[03:21] <sha1sum> iniakulohhahaha, okay, you have to edit that file and place your domain controller on a line ABOVE the other one
[03:21] <sha1sum> and set it to your internal DNS/Domain Controller server
[03:21] <iniakulohhahaha> sha1sum : where? i mean name of file
[03:21] <sha1sum> then save the file (you're going to have to use sudo to edit it)
[03:21] <omeil> !ntfs-3g
[03:21] <sha1sum> --> /etc/resolv.conf
[03:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:21] <omeil> !ntfs
[03:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:22] <omeil> !fuse
[03:22] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:22] <iniakulohhahaha> sha1sum : what should i put on /etc/resolv.conf
[03:22] <sha1sum> after you save the file I dunno whether it updates or not so you may want to restart the interface by using 'ifconfig <device> down' then 'ifconfig <device> up'
[03:22] <lesshaste_> anyone used wpa_gui ?  When I run it it says Failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant.
[03:22] <sha1sum> iniakulohhahaha, have you ever made an DNS server for your local network?
[03:23] <AndrewB> sha1sum: or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:23] <iniakulohhahaha> rite now my client using DNS local
[03:23] <iniakulohhahaha> to this machine too
[03:23] <yomm> How safe is it these days to write to NTFS ?
[03:23] <iniakulohhahaha> that why im cant understand why i cant browse http://excelsior or even ping excelsior
[03:23] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: please also see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337650&highlight=firestarter+couldn%27t+find+package (which is closer to home)  sorry for the linuxforum link.
[03:24] <French_Man26old> i look for a woman
[03:24] <Nalleman> Anyone, I got a wmv  streaming video file started, but I can only hear the sound and only if the window is active. Hints someone?
[03:24] <Malajub> hey
[03:24] <anjel> can anyone help me with mounting an usb-cdrom during install
[03:24] <AndrewB> yomm: make sure you have a back up in case. No body is held responsable other than you ;)
[03:24] <Malajub> I have a lot of old Breezy Badger discs
[03:24] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: just wanted to let you know you're not the only one with the problem ;)
[03:24] <Angelus> is there a chat room that I can go to that will have people that will help me set up apache?
[03:24] <Malajub> i dunno what to do with them!!!
[03:24] <yomm> lol
[03:24] <AndrewB> Malajub: drinks coasters ;)
[03:24] <Malajub> i'm serious
[03:24] <Malajub> can i recycle them?
[03:24] <foutrelis> Angelus: apt-get install apache2 mysql-server-5.0 php5 phpmyadmin :)
[03:24] <yomm> Andrewb ; no I hold you responsible ! I know where you live ! :p
[03:25] <Malajub> i'm curious...how much money does it cost to make one Ubuntu disc
[03:25] <AndrewB> yomm: that is who is in the tree then!
[03:25] <guiden> Does anyone use gaim as the irc client?
[03:25] <yomm> :)
[03:25] <AndrewB> guiden: I have done. But now I use irssi.
[03:26] <soweto76> To enable acpi power management with nvidia xorg driver on Ubuntu 6.10 I appear to need to disable agpgart.  How can I prevent the agpgart module from loading?
[03:26] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: thanks, I cannot see lokkit or firestarter in the synaptic package manager to enable it, search does not find it
[03:26] <anjel> does anyone know what /dev/ device is assigned to usb cdrom drives?
[03:26] <Malajub> 'm curious...how much money does it cost to make one Ubuntu disc
[03:26] <AndrewB> soweto76: check if it is in /etc/modules
[03:27] <k_keller> Does anyone know if there is an option during the instalation process where I could subsittue Ubuntu with Suse (having in mind that I have Windows xp on the other partition). Will boot loader be automatically updated?
[03:27] <tfault> Is it possible to enable DRI in 32-bit chroot?
[03:27] <vinboy> how do I install kcontrol and its modules?
[03:27] <k_keller> sorry, I meant substitute Suse into ubuntu :)
[03:27] <soweto76> AndrewB, it is not in  /etc/modules
[03:27] <AndrewB> k_keller: I don't understand, can you rephase?
[03:28] <seravitae> is there a way to flush the write cache?
[03:28] <seravitae> im having files i copied off cds show up as like 1mb when they should be a lot more
[03:28] <seravitae> and my cache is like over a gig.
[03:28] <omeil> !ntfs-3g
[03:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:28] <omeil> !fuse
[03:28] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:29] <sha1sum> lesshaste, try running this and then typing just 'iwconfig' to check: iwconfig ath0 mode Managed ap any rate auto channel auto rate auto txpower auto retry lifetime commit
[03:29] <kungfuhamster> does anyone know how to fix this gnomebaker error: "WRITE@LBA=5dc20h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument" The stack of coasters I've made so far is really beginning to get annoying...   :)
[03:29] <k_keller> AndrewB: I have right now Suse 10.2 on one partition and Windows XP on the other. I would like to get rid of Suse and in place of Suse install Ubuntu ( I know i will lose all data and that's ok). I'm wondering if this is possible and if yes, then if the boot loader (the thing when I can now choose to load either WIndows or Suse) will be update automaticcally into Ubuntu.
[03:29] <AndrewB> soweto76: modprobe --remove [foo] 
[03:30] <lesshaste_> sha1sum:  SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted.
[03:30] <anjel> I can boot the ubuntu install cd from usb, but can't make Ubuntu mount the drive :(
[03:30] <lesshaste_> sha1sum: what was it meant to do?
[03:30] <sha1sum> lesshaste, use sudo
[03:30] <AndrewB> k_keller: you can, and it will update it.
[03:30] <k_keller> AndrewB: thank you very much
[03:30] <AndrewB> k_keller: make sure you go to 'manually partition' and remove the SuSE partition
[03:30] <sha1sum> iwconfig == ifconfig for wireless.... that command should set everything to auto and have it seek out multiple access points
[03:31] <lesshaste> sha1sum: SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:31] <Tosa_Chang> guiden: I'm using gaim
[03:31] <[KotG|Tanuva] _> mwahahaaaa beryl is genious :D
[03:31] <desi007> how do I get rid of "unable to get exclusive lock" I was installing something from easyubuntu and got messed up :(
[03:31] <sha1sum> lol
[03:31] <reubs> AndrewB: i understand my situtatioin be not be the most normal, but basicaly i'm tryin gto ssh into a vmware instalation of ubuntu, from another machine. from the machine the vmware is running from, everything is instant. from other machines on the network everything everything works quite fast but the sshd just bogs down, i have already turned the reverselookup off but i'm not to sure where to look next?
[03:31] <AndrewB> k_keller: auto partition might remove the whole disk
[03:31] <lesshaste> sha1sum: that still doesn't address the wpa problem
[03:31] <sha1sum> lesshaste, what does just 'iwconfig' say
[03:31] <deadeyes> hi all, I am trying to use vnc, I can start the server, I can connect to the vncserver, but I after typing the password, I get an X screen, without a window manager, can someone help me solving this? the vnc-log file nothing about what could be the problem
[03:31] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: have you edited your /etc/apt/sources.list yet and added the extra repositories.. that may be why its not showing up in the list.  http://www.fs-security.com/docs/installation.php
[03:31] <soweto76> AnAn, just says it is busy and won't remove.  Should I try it without X running?
[03:31] <lesshaste> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""
[03:31] <lesshaste>           Mode:Managed  Channel:0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[03:31] <lesshaste> etc,
[03:31] <soweto76> AndrewB,  just says it is busy and won't remove.  Should I try it without X running?
[03:32] <AndrewB> soweto76: yes..
[03:32] <AndrewB> reubs: I am not sure I am sorry to say...
[03:32] <sha1sum> lesshaste, what kind of card do you have again?
[03:32] <yeniklasor> how can I send files via bluetooth
[03:32] <reubs> AndrewB: thanks for your help
[03:32] <sha1sum> lesshaste, (find out with lspci if need be)
[03:32] <lesshaste> sha1sum: atheros.. using the madwifi driver
[03:32] <soweto76> AndrewB, Will that prevent it from reloading on reboot?
[03:32] <AndrewB> reubs: try in #openssh
[03:32] <lesshaste> sha1sum: the problem is just wpa
[03:32] <lesshaste> sha1sum: it shows up fine in systems->networking
[03:33] <Cid_China> Ubuntu nvidia drivers have some problems
[03:33] <chiefbearclaw> bob_: Just to perhaps provide some comfort know that you essentially already have a firewall running.. its default in linux.  Firestarter just allows the ability to do more things with it.
[03:33] <guiden> Tosa_Chang
[03:33] <yeniklasor> I can receive files with bluetooth with bluetooth file sharing
[03:33] <yeniklasor> how can I send files via bluetooth
[03:34] <guiden> Is there a easy way to join a server and a room?
[03:34] <lesshaste> the thing I don't understand is why nm-applet is not helping
[03:34] <sha1sum> lesshaste, please don't tell me it was this simple:  'sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant'
[03:34] <sha1sum> heh
[03:34] <lesshaste> sha1sum: wpasupplicant is installed
[03:34] <sha1sum> dammit :)
[03:34] <kungfuhamster> does anyone know how to fix this gnomebaker error: "WRITE@LBA=5dc20h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument" The stack of coasters I've made so far is really beginning to get annoying...   :)  (Will repay help with this problem in porn :) )
[03:34] <reubs> AndrewB: cheers, your the first help, it's the first help I have had tonight, i do thank you!
[03:35] <chiefbearclaw> Cid_China: please if installing an ATI OR NVIDIA driver take a look at this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929&highlight=Envy
[03:35] <lesshaste> sha1sum: I havent' configured it,,, that's the problem
[03:35] <AndrewB> soweto76: man rmmod too
[03:35] <fredl> gosh, ktorrent is annoying me.
[03:36] <soweto76> AndrewB, thanks
[03:36] <hdxx> fredl: use qbittorrent
[03:36] <sha1sum> lesshaste, ifcfg-ath0
[03:36] <AndrewB> soweto76: I am not too sure.. trying to get it tho.. I was sure it was /etc/modules heh
[03:36] <sha1sum> lesshaste, seems as if we found it both at the same time? ;)
[03:36] <chiefbearclaw> kungfuhamster:  Perhaps try uninstalling gnomebacker completely and then reinstalling it with synaptic.  Sorry I can't help you more with that error.  Coaster are only fun for so long.
[03:36] <fredl> hdxx that doesn't exist (that package that is)
[03:36] <teron1n> chiefbearclaw: I already tried that
[03:36] <teron1n> along with dvd+rw-tools
[03:37] <lesshaste> sha1sum: I don't have that app
[03:37] <teron1n> no luck
[03:37] <fredl> hdxx and I hope you don't mean qtorrent.
[03:37] <sha1sum> lesshaste, it's a file
[03:37] <lesshaste> or that file
[03:37] <sha1sum> lesshaste, use locate to find it, then edit
[03:37] <sha1sum> oooookay
[03:37] <Elrik> Inside the terminal, how do I enter a specific directory, what command?
[03:37] <sha1sum> look at the info or man pages for madwifi
[03:37] <soweto76> AndrewB, I would have presumed same.
[03:37] <Tosa_Chang> guiden: what means easy way?
[03:37] <sha1sum> Elrik, cd /dir/name/is/this
[03:37] <hdxx> fredl: nah.. here you have .deb package http://qbittorrent.sourceforge.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=29
[03:37] <chiefbearclaw> Elrik: cd
[03:37] <AndrewB> soweto76: try asking in ##linux  they might help actually.
[03:37] <Elrik> ok, thanks
[03:37] <chiefbearclaw> ^^
[03:38] <sha1sum> elrik or if the directory you want to change to is inside the one you're in already, use cd dirname
[03:38] <yeniklasor> Anyone knows how to send files with bluetooth :'(
[03:38] <StoneNote> teron1n, run gnomebaker as root.
[03:38] <AndrewB> !bluetooth | yeniklasor
[03:38] <ubotu> yeniklasor: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:38] <fredl> hdxx, checking it out...
[03:38] <deadeyes>  hi all, I am trying to use vnc, I can start the server, I can connect to the vncserver, but I after typing the password, I get an X screen, without a window manager, can someone help me solving this? the vnc-log file nothing about what could be the problem
[03:38] <soweto76> AndrewB, okeeleedokeelee :)
[03:39] <sha1sum> okay you guys have me caught the fuck up lol I have to go... excuse the language but I haven't installed for like 3-4 hours because of my addiction to getting people converted to openOS
[03:39] <sha1sum> hehehe
[03:39] <lesshaste> sha1sum: the driver is configured no? Otherwise I wouldn't already have ath0.. the problem is configuring wpa
[03:39] <sha1sum> peace
[03:39] <linuxnewbie756> how can i minimize firefox, thunderbird, etc to the notification area? i remember hearing about a program to let you do that with all programs, i don't remember what it is called
[03:39] <anjel> anyone here ever mount an usb cdrom in ubuntu? :/
[03:40] <AndrewB> soweto76: might have it....  edit /etc/modules.d/autoload/kernel-x.x
[03:40] <hdxx> fredl: first install rblibtorrent, and then qbittorrent
[03:40] <fredl> hdxx, alright.
[03:40] <Tosa_Chang> guiden: first, name server,second, connect,and then /join #ubuntu. what about your way to join #ubuntu?
[03:40] <SoulChild> HI ALL
[03:41] <SoulChild> my "Places->Server"-Folder is empty, there is no Windows-Network Folder in it anymore... any ideas would be great
[03:41] <fredl> says it needs libboost-thread1.33.1
[03:41] <fredl> hdxx, says it needs libboost-thread1.33.1
[03:41] <hdxx> fredl: sudo apt-cache libboost
[03:41] <hdxx> fredl: sudo apt-cache search libboost
[03:41] <AndrewB> SoulChild: make sure samba is still running [samba client] 
[03:42] <fredl> oh okay ofcourse, dpkg doesn't download anything.
[03:43] <SoulChild> andrewB samba is installed... typing smb://PC-NAME Works but there is no icon in server-folder for windows-network
[03:44] <Raider1> Is there any command in ubuntu to get the load status for each individual cpu core ?
[03:44] <fredl> hdxx, seems like most the libboost packages are broken.
[03:44] <fredl> oh wait...
[03:44] <Raider1> top and ps only show overall CPU loads, not per-core
[03:44] <fredl> n/m, scratch that.
[03:45] <hdxx> fredl: sudo apt-get install libboost-thread1.33.1
[03:45] <fredl> yeah got it running, n/m
[03:45] <Elrik> what do I need to install to enable wireless connections on Linux Ubuntu?
[03:45] <hdxx> ok :)
[03:46] <SoulChild> @ALL who can help: my samba-client works correctly but the windows-networt symbol is missing in "Places->Server" , any help would be great?
[03:47] <Angelus> sorry to do this again everyone, but I'm having so much rtrouble understadning what's going on with Apache
[03:47] <Angelus> Where do I put the html files so I can veiw them through 127.0.0.1???
[03:47] <ardchoille> Angelus: /var/www
[03:48] <deadeyes>  hi all, I am trying to use vnc, I can start the server, I can connect to the vncserver, but I after typing the password, I get an X screen, without a window manager, can someone help me solving this? the vnc-log file nothing about what could be the problem
[03:48] <ardchoille> Angelus: Unless you've defined another location, which I don't think you did due to your question
[03:48] <Angelus> hehe no I haven't!!! but thanks for the direction on that!!!
[03:48] <MinceR> hi
[03:49] <MinceR> is it possible to downgrade packages with apt-get? aptitude is driving me crazy.
[03:50] <fab07> il y a quelqu'un??
[03:50] <fredl> hdxx, how's qbittorrent better than ktorrent in your opinion?
[03:51] <er4z0r> fab07: join ubuntu-fr
[03:51] <fredl> hdxx, coz it seems equally slow :P
[03:51] <hdxx> fredl: for me work great :)
[03:51] <fredl> I can get 400KB/s over my ISP...
[03:52] <Raider1> fredl, Up or down ?
[03:52] <fredl> I'm getting 3.2KB/s on one test torrent.
[03:52] <hdxx> o get 195KB/s .. this is my full download :)
[03:52] <fredl> Raider, down.
[03:52] <Raider1> Ahh, thats decent
[03:52] <SecrethX> where are the session files located? (the file that contains the programs that need to be started @ startup?)
[03:52] <superbia> Hi, anyone know a good repo for entrance?
[03:52] <Raider1> I got 812K/s down when downloading the ubunut 6.10 iso :P
[03:52] <fredl> now it's going up to 9 KB/s, let's give it a little bit of time...
[03:53] <hdxx> fredl: you can try deluge too :)
[03:53] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: I have edited the sources.list, but which are the extra repos I need to add?
[03:53] <Softly> sup
[03:53] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: know that torrents will always seems to go slow at first.. they pick up speed usually.
[03:53] <Raider1> I wish RoadRunner's upstream was as fast as the downstream
[03:54] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, yeah I know.
[03:54] <Angelus> does ASP work with Apache?
[03:54] <Raider1> Then I'd have no problem shelling out the $ for their business line
[03:54] <Uatec> hi there
[03:54] <Humza> thank god. it took me an hour to find out how to start xchat. :P
[03:54] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, but I don't even see any external connections coming in on qbittorrent.
[03:55] <fredl> not that I care :P but others tend to snub you if they can't connect to you.
[03:55] <Elrik> Can somebody help me configure my internet so that I can connect to my home network on Linux Ubuntu, I have a wireless network card, i used ndiswrapper and all that is working, but when i click system/administartion/networking there are only 2 options, wired connections, and modem, not a wireless one
[03:55] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: remove the ## in front of the ones marked universe.
[03:55] <SecrethX> where are the session files located? (the file that contains the programs that need to be started @ startup?)
[03:55] <Softly> dunno
[03:55] <Uatec> what's the name of the binary which ubuntu uses to manage services from the gui? for some reason i can't run it from the menu, so i'm going to sudo it from the terminal
[03:55] <fredl> somewhere in .gn* :)
[03:56] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: you shouldn't have to add any
[03:56] <|drin|> whaaaaaa :D
[03:56] <unimatrix9> is there some new art work in feisty fawn?
[03:57] <fredl> well perhaps it's just coz I'm downloading xbox torrents...
[03:57] <|drin|> anyone happen to have some experience with configging ATI X1600 mobility driver?
[03:57] <vinboy> how do I install kcontrol and its modules?
[03:57] <|_SpY_|> im remove my "windows vista" ... and backup "windows mail" folder... now i use ubuntu.... ok.... how i import the msgs of windows mail to Evolution email client? anybody can help me?
[03:58] <chiefbearclaw> |drin|: please if installing an ATI OR NVIDIA driver take a look at this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929&highlight=Envy
[03:58] <dioxin> Hi! Suddenly I can't transfer my digitalcam pictures from the camera to the computer, The camera says "connectet to the computer" but the computer says "cameratype not recognized" or something like that! What has happend? How can I fix it?
[03:58] <|drin|> thanks chiefbearclaw
[03:58] <chiefbearclaw> I have an X1600 Pro AGP... it worked for me
[03:58] <fredl> So when will Mark Shuttleworth run out of money?
[03:58] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: I did that as root and then switched back to admin user and in the search box of Synaptic it never came up when I searched on Firestarter or Lokkit :\
[03:58] <|drin|> i followed some tutorials
[03:58] <dromer> how can I make a personal 404-page?
[04:00] <|_SpY_|> im remove my "windows vista" ... and backup "windows mail" folder... now i use ubuntu.... ok.... how i import the msgs of windows mail to Evolution email client? anybody can help me?
[04:00] <dromer> "windows mail" ? whats that?
[04:00] <dromer> you mean like outlook?
[04:01] <fredl> well qbittorrent isn't it for me :/
[04:01] <fredl> looks sort of pretty....
[04:01] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: that is odd... I have edited my source.list that same as I have told you and I see it available.  Please stick around I am sure someone knows a solution.  If you know how just download the correct package from their site directly and install that way.  A manual install if you will.
[04:01] <ardchoille> |drin|: There are some examples in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf about custom error pages.
[04:02] <fredl> does anybody here use fluxtorrent?
[04:02] <shriphani_> why does my look so bad ? ----> http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mckz5.jpg
[04:03] <fredl> ehr torrentflux that is.
[04:03] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: there are a decent amount of clients to try available for linux so give them all a whirl.  I use Azureus when in Linux and !burt in Windows XP.
[04:03] <Uatec> use usenet
[04:03] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, well I tried azureus too for a while, but now it keeps crashing.
[04:04] <Humza> when I try connecting to quakenet using xchat, the program lists channels on the network until xchat crashes. how do I cancel that function? thanks.
[04:04] <esaym> fredl:  I use torrent flux
[04:04] <chiefbearclaw> correction !burst*
[04:04] <fredl> esaym, you installed it on Ubuntu 6.10?
[04:04] <esaym> no, 6.06 lamp
[04:04] <esaym> https://lindsay.ath.cx/bit/  :P
[04:05] <fredl> esaym, coz I seem to have this problem with dbconfig-common on which torrentflux depends. dbconfig-common won't create the torrentflux database for me for some reason.
[04:05] <esaym> And I didn't really even have to install it.  I just copied the tar into a folder on the webserver and that was it
[04:05] <shriphani_> did anyone see the link i posted ?
[04:05] <jlamr> I have the mp3 codecs - Where do I browse to open the m4u file, if I'm using gxine?
[04:05] <leshaste> I am trying to get wpa working with no luck in xubuntu. iwconfig shows ath0 and lots of info and wifi0 with "no wireless extensions"
[04:05] <esaym> I think you got to make the database right?
[04:06] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: well I did the manual download of lokkit, the tar file but the script does not seem to want to run :\
[04:06] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: azureus depends on java so be sure to update the java stuff first and all.. I use the latest java and in the beta of the azureus2.jar file and have zero problems with azureus in ubuntu 6.10.
[04:06] <esaym> fredl:  one sec let me look for the faq
[04:06] <fredl> esaym, well you can make it yourself, but the Ubuntu package uses dbconfig-common
[04:06] <leshaste> nm-applet does not give any option to configure it either
[04:06] <leshaste> what can I do?
[04:07] <fredl> esaym, and dbconfig-common should ask you some questions when torrentflux is installed and then create the database for you.
[04:07] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: have you tried to see if firestarter is listed in add/remove rather than synaptic?  Maybe it is listed there.
[04:07] <fredl> but I think that either dbconfig-common is broken or I have messed up something somewhere.
[04:07] <DJ_Gentoo> or just download it from fs-security.com
[04:08] <gop> !automatix
[04:08] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:08] <Timido__> buenas
[04:09] <shriphani_> DJ_Gentoo, you seem to be free..... can you please look at this http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mckz5.jpg
[04:09] <esaym> fredl: I can't remember if I did that, I just followed the the install file that came with it
[04:09] <DJ_Gentoo> I did...
[04:09] <esaym> fredl: did you do: mysqladmin create torrentflux
[04:09] <Timido__> como hago para que al apagar el sistema me mate antes una determinada aplicacion
[04:09] <DJ_Gentoo> it seems good enough for casual use
[04:09] <DJ_Gentoo> !es | timido__
[04:09] <ubotu> timido__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:09] <shriphani_> ehh
[04:09] <shriphani_> it looks all messed up to me
[04:09] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: nothing under firestarter or fire or lokkit there
[04:09] <bob__> !repositories
[04:09] <fredl> esaym, no I shouldn't have to, I did install torrentflux on my Debian virtual host though, that also uses dbconfig-common and there it works fine.
[04:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:09] <Timido__> thank ubotu
[04:10] <morpheus74> Does anyone know how I can broadcast my web cam?  I would like to keep it semi-private - where only those I give an access code to can access the cam.
[04:10] <AndrewB> Timido__: ubotu is a bot ;)
[04:10] <limetang> !WorksForMe
[04:10] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:10] <fredl> esaym, but you're right, I could simply create the database myself.
[04:10] <Timido__> thank by all I go ubuntu-es
[04:10] <Timido__> bye
[04:10] <esaym> fredl: I didnt use the dbconfig is just did: mysqladmin create torrentflux and mysql torrentflux < mysql_torrentflux.sql
[04:10] <leshaste> how do I get it to find the access point and connect to it?
[04:11] <shriphani_> DJ_Gentoo, the problem is whatever i click on results in something else happening
[04:11] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: did you run sudo apt-get update after editing sources?  (so that the repositories are queried and updated I suppose)
[04:11] <fredl> esaym, so since I haven't (yet) set it up, is it worth the while you think?
[04:11] <Bnirkow> i`m on ubuntu feisty with ati card (radeon x700) and when i run beryl-manager i see error:  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". how can i fix it??
[04:11] <esaym> fredl: you mean, "is torrent flux worth it?"
[04:12] <fredl> esaym, yeah :)
[04:12] <chiefbearclaw> Bnirkow: from what I understand beryl and ati do not work.. do get 3d in ati dri has to be enabled.. and if memory serves beryl needs dri enabled.. a catch 22.
[04:13] <esaym> fredl:  yea I like it.  I  used to run my desktop 24/7 but it draws 200watts at idle.  Now installed emule and torrent  flux on my webserver so I don't have to run my desktop 24/7.  And the webserver only draws 30watts ;)
[04:13] <chiefbearclaw> to get*
[04:13] <fredl> 30 watts? wow that's not much.
[04:13] <Unox> Hello, I'm (very) new to Ubuntu/Linux and wondered how to uninstall programs and all that, not by synaptic or add/remove, I want to uninstall VMWare Server, but cannot find it in either of them
[04:13] <esaym> So I did it to save on the power bill
[04:13] <fredl> what you have in there?
[04:13] <DJ_Gentoo> !automatix | Unox
[04:13] <ubotu> Unox: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:13] <esaym> fredl: yes it is a 360mhz k6-2 from 1995 lol
[04:13] <fredl> mini-itx thingie?
[04:13] <MinceR> bye
[04:14] <Bnirkow> chiefbearclaw: but how..
[04:14] <shriphani_> i guess i have to adjust with emelfm and rox
[04:14] <lefrog> 1
[04:14] <fredl> esaym, you actually measured the usage?
[04:14] <esaym> fredl:  no its just an old tower from 1995 http://lindsay.ath.cx/wserver.php
[04:14] <dioxin> Hi! Suddenly I can't transfer my digitalcam pictures from the camera to the computer, The camera says "connectet to the computer" but the computer says "cameratype not recognized" or something like that! What has happend? How can I fix it?
[04:15] <Unox> ubotu: you cannot install VMWare server with automatix, only VMWare player
[04:15] <DJ_Gentoo> man, it makes my laptop look like a l33t machine...
[04:15] <fredl> esaym, because I'm running an old 500MHz AMD too and one of the drawbacks of it is that Linux can't scale back the frequency on it.
[04:15] <ardchoille> !bot | Unox
[04:15] <ubotu> Unox: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:15] <Fjolnir> hey! may anyone help me setting up my network card? i installed it, but eth0 didn't appear...
[04:15] <esaym> fredl: yes my UPS has a watt meter in it.  the desktop draws 216 watts at idle and 290 max while t he webserver draws about 20-30watts idle
[04:15] <DJ_Gentoo> 800MHz Celeron, i810 GFX
[04:15] <leshaste> I am trying to get wpa working with no luck in xubuntu. iwconfig shows ath0 and lots of info and wifi0 with "no wireless extensions"
[04:15] <leshaste> nm-applet does not give any option to configure it either
[04:15] <leshaste> how do I get it to find the access point and connect to it?
[04:16] <fredl> esaym, wow that's cool. I should get myself some watt meter, I'm getting curious now...
[04:16] <Unox> hehe, so ubotu is a bot  :o
[04:16] <ardchoille> Unox: :)
[04:16] <esaym> fredl:  oh, my desktop is an amd athlon at 2.6mhz.  I am afraid if I mess with frequency scalling it will mess up the over clock
[04:16] <Unox> anyone?
[04:16] <fredl> esaym, coz this workstation I have here is so nice and quiet that I hardly think about it's power consumption...
[04:17] <dromer> can anyone help me setup custom 404's on my apache2 server?
[04:17] <Elrik> !wireless
[04:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:17] <fredl> esaym, and my old 500MHz AMD webserver is NOISY, for some reason I associate noiselevel with powerconsumption :P
[04:17] <chiefbearclaw> Bnirkow: from what I understand beryl and ati do not work.  If DRI is enabled for beryl to work then it will cause an adverse effect and make your 3d acceleration fail.
[04:17] <esaym> fredl: Yea you can buy a watt meter online for $20.  Most newer deskttops don't draw much at idle.  It was just the pentium4 and amd athlon's that were poer hungry (at idle)
[04:18] <Unox> Hello, I'm (very) new to Ubuntu/Linux and wondered how to uninstall programs and all that, not by synaptic or add/remove, I want to uninstall VMWare Server, but cannot find it in either of them, BUMP
[04:18] <shriphani_> esaym, a 1995 box ?
[04:18] <fredl> esaym, correct. my laptop has ACPI properly installed and it nicely slows down the CPU when I'm not doing anything intensive.
[04:18] <esaym> fredl: yea that webserver was noisy too.  I took the psu apart and changed the fan over to the 5 volt rail instead of 12 volts.  So now I can't hear the fan
[04:18] <unimatrix9> /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl
[04:18] <shriphani_> Unox, didnt you go through a long questionnaire during installation ?
[04:18] <unimatrix9> thats how you do it...
[04:19] <esaym> shriphani_: yea and old box with amd k6-2 cpu
[04:19] <Unox> shriphani_:yes, nut there were some kernel problems of some sort
[04:19] <unimatrix9> tell me if you have done it succesfully...
[04:19] <esaym> fredl: yea my laptop does that too. I have heard of people using powernowd to scale athlons on desktops though. not sure how
[04:19] <shriphani_> Unox, unimatrix has posted the command
[04:20] <unimatrix9> /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl
[04:20] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:20] <_ceed_> Question: I run Ubuntu on my desktop, and now I want to move it to a laptop. Since I am using it for work I do not have time to mess too much with it. What kind if laptop should I get where Ubuntu just runs and wireless, lan, display, powermanagement and standby just works?
[04:20] <Unox> unimatrix9: thanks, I'll try that:)
[04:20] <fredl> esaym, I've tried very hard to get powernowd to work like a year ago or so, but couldn't get it to work properly. Maybe I should try again, I think you can also control the fanspeed with it.
[04:20] <unimatrix9> might need sudo ...
[04:20] <Raider1> Ok, I must be crazy or something, but shouldn't the command 'symlink' to create symlinks, etc, exist ? :P
[04:20] <shriphani_> _ceed_, my laptop is an acer travelmate 4500. ubuntu runs like a breeze on it
[04:20] <Puschman> mubutu
[04:21] <SoulChild> @ALL who can help: my samba-client works correctly but the windows-networt symbol is missing in "Places->Server" , any help would be great?
[04:21] <blasco> ciaoooo
[04:21] <Mattias> !jp
[04:21] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[04:21] <esaym> hey anyone know a good alternative to vmware?  I need to be able to load os's from a cd or iso.  Or is vmware server as good as it gets?
[04:21] <_ceed_> shriphani_: No problem even with going to and from stand-by?
[04:21] <shriphani_> _ceed_, no
[04:21] <fredl> I wonder if Linux running on an XBOX will use lots of electricity.
[04:21] <Fjolnir> hey! may anyone help me setting up my network card? i installed it, but eth0 didn't appear...
[04:21] <shriphani_> esaym, vmware workstation ?
[04:21] <Unox> why can I still see, the VMWare server console icon?
[04:21] <_ceed_> sounds like heaven. Tried on a
[04:22] <_ceed_> HP laptop. tons of problems
[04:22] <esaym> shriphani_: yea that looks good but it costs $189?!
[04:22] <Fahrenheit> Hello everybody, what's the size of the ubuntu repositories (only for i386) ?
[04:22] <esaym> fredl: yea I thought about going the xbbox linux way.  It only has like  64mb of ram though
[04:22] <chiefbearclaw> _ceed_: I would imagine the latest stable distribution release i.e. Edgy
[04:22] <shriphani_> esaym, keygen ?
[04:22] <SLUTS> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:23] <SLUTS> wana hav sex?
[04:23] <morgan> anyone know what happened to the automatix site....???....
[04:23] <esaym> shriphani_: rofl Yea I guess I could go that route
[04:23] <shriphani_> esaym, i did
[04:23] <SLUTS> baby m good at it
[04:23] <cypher1> how can i use activkey in ubuntu ?
[04:23] <SLUTS> r u virgin?
[04:23] <shriphani_> ops
[04:23] <_ceed_> chief bearclaw: I am running edgy, yes. on the hp wirless wpa wouldnt work, and evey time it went to standby it froze and wouldnt come back.
[04:23] <leshaste> I am trying to get wpa working with no luck in xubuntu. iwconfig shows ath0 and lots of info and wifi0 with "no wireless extensions"
[04:23] <leshaste> nm-applet does not give any option to configure it either
[04:23] <leshaste> how do I get it to find the access point and connect to it?
[04:24] <SLUTS> who cares
[04:24] <chiefbearclaw> SLUTS: sudo apt-get install sex?  i think is the only way to get sex in this channel.
[04:24] <SLUTS> lets tak abt sex:P
[04:24] <chiefbearclaw> you might be in the wrong place
[04:24] <unimatrix9> virtual alternatives : virtualbox, xen, qemu, remote desktop ( install os on other pc ) vmware player...
[04:24] <SLUTS> wts wrong with u man
[04:24] <|drin|> chiefbearclaw: You redirected me to the easy installmethod for ati drivers
[04:24] <|drin|> chiefbearclaw: I have problems with adding the repossitories to a file
[04:24] <sdac221x_> Hi, im not exactly sure how to install additional themes for gkrellm.  the site mentions some locations where themes are stored.  after i untar the file...which directory do i place it under ?  thanks
[04:24] <|drin|> chiefbearclaw: in what format should it be?
[04:24] <morgan> anyone know what happened to the automatix site....???....is there any other way to get it....???....
[04:24] <mark458> Hey guys I just installed Ubuntu to my computer but I dont have access to my secondary drive. I can see everything in terminal but I cant see it in file browser.
[04:25] <SLUTS> tht not Fair :@
[04:25] <shriphani_> |drin|, ascii
[04:25] <|drin|> shriphani_: sorr?
[04:25] <|drin|> shriphani_: ah
[04:25] <shriphani_> :D
[04:25] <|drin|> shriphani_: I mean the syntax :D
[04:25] <Elrik> I'm trying to connect to my home network, and what i've done so far is
[04:25] <Elrik> Install the drivers, wrapped them with ndiswrapper, so when i type sudo ndiswrapper it says "driver installed, hardware present", and made a module and all for it, but when i press System/Administration/Networking, the only options are "MODEM" and "WIRED CONNECTION", how can I make an "WIRELESS" bar to that?
[04:25] <Elrik> What I'm using is a wireless USB 2.0 adapter 802.11g by ASUS, and the ndiswrapper from the ubuntu CD.
[04:25] <Elrik> I want to get ubuntu to work cause I hate windows,, please help if you can, also I'm trying to connect to a WGA614v6 NETGEAR router, it's encrypted and has 2 other computers using it sometimes.
[04:25] <Elrik> ooops
[04:25] <Elrik> soz
[04:25] <DJ_Gentoo> !pastebin
[04:25] <mark458> Anyone know what I can do to access it? I dont want to modify the partition
[04:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:26] <SLUTS> SHUT UP
[04:26] <chiefbearclaw> !repositories | |drin|
[04:26] <ubotu> |drin|: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:26] <SLUTS> NO ONE CAREs
[04:26] <unimatrix9> i think for gkrell its  /usr/share/gkrellm2/themes/
[04:26] <Elrik> somebody help me please :/
[04:26] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: I now get
[04:26] <SpacePuppy> !ops
[04:26] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:26] <unimatrix9> but check first if its there...
[04:26] <bob__> Reading package lists... Done
[04:26] <bob__> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:26] <bob__> Package gnome-lokkit is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:26] <bob__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:26] <bob__> is only available from another source
[04:26] <bob__> E: Package gnome-lokkit has no installation candidate
[04:26] <esaym> !kick SLUTS
[04:26] <fredl> esaym, http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Xbox_RAM_HOWTO
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick sluts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <SLUTS> _|_
[04:26] <erisco> how do I force a cdrom to umount?
[04:26] <SpacePuppy> thanks
[04:27] <erisco> it keeps saying the device is busy.. it surely is not
[04:27] <gnomefreak> bob__: use pastebin please
[04:27] <esaym> fredl: I will read it
[04:27] <wceoscar> can i install beryl with the drivers provided by automatix2???
[04:27] <bob__> gnomefreak: pastebin?
[04:27] <Elrik> please won't somebody help me with setting up my internet... im desperate
[04:27] <leshaste> grr
[04:27] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | bob__
[04:27] <ubotu> bob__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <fredl> esaym, haven't done it myself yet. This weekend I'm getting a mod chip and a 200G HD installed in my XBOX
[04:27] <unimatrix9> type mount in console
[04:27] <gnomefreak> wceoscar: we dont support automatix nor its use please see #automatix
[04:28] <unimatrix9> see whats mounted, then type umount /dev/ wich you want to ...
[04:28] <erisco> nevermind, spotted the problem ^.^
[04:28] <mark458> So noone knows how to give me access to my backup drive?
[04:28] <unimatrix9> ok :)
[04:28] <esaym> fredl: yea I have heard of that.  That guy made it sound easy
[04:28] <unimatrix9> makr458 whats the device?
[04:28] <morgan> anyone know what happened to the automatix site....???....is there any other way to get it....???....
[04:29] <leshaste> #http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136&highlight=wpa refers to ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant  ... I don't have that on my system.. is it out of date or should I install something new?
[04:29] <mark458> Is a 400GB SATA drive.
[04:29] <bob__> chiefb
[04:29] <gnomefreak> morgan: ask in #automatix
[04:29] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7365/
[04:29] <bob__> gnomefreak: thanks
[04:30] <Elrik> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369230 can somebody please help`?
[04:31] <yccheok> hi all, any lightweight WYSIWYG html editor for linux?
[04:31] <unimatrix9> nvu
[04:31] <yccheok> unimatrix9, i feel it is not tat lightweight.
[04:31] <unimatrix9> apt get nvu ( editor html )
[04:31] <Humza> I just installed ubuntu. It's supposed to be userfriendly, right? It isn't! Nothing works! the find function doesn't show any results, not in xwin nor in the terminal. xchat is persistent to list channels until it crashes etc. etc.
[04:31] <unimatrix9> the gedit...
[04:31] <eDRoaCH> hmm i found you guys but i have to go to work in just a few minutes T-T
[04:31] <DJ_Gentoo> its not wysiwyg
[04:32] <Humza> either something is terribly wrong with my installation, or ubuntu really isn't userfriendly
[04:32] <mark458> I can access the drive in terminal but not fiel browser.
[04:32] <rbil> mark458: if you post the results of sudo fdisk -l and the contents of your fstab to pastebin, someone should be able to help you
[04:32] <unimatrix9> then? thats lightweight ...
[04:32] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:32] <DJ_Gentoo> how about Mozilla Composer
[04:32] <yccheok> unimatrix9, but that one is not wysiwyg
[04:32] <yccheok> unimatrix9, haha, ok ok
[04:32] <Enselic`> How do I send an Evolution mail in TEXT format without it inserting \n at long lines?
[04:32] <DJ_Gentoo> mousepad is lighter than GEdit
[04:32] <DJ_Gentoo> ;)
[04:32] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: well I was trying to help with the firestarter problem. That is an issue with lokkit.  However it seems that you are having a similar problem installing it as well.  So perhaps your problem is beyond my knowledge.  I am not sure what else to suggest.
[04:32] <yccheok> last time old day i use netscape composer
[04:32] <mark458> Well heres the catch its an NTFS drive that I also use in winodws xp  and I cant make it to where IO cant access it in xp
[04:32] <yccheok> year 1996
[04:32] <fredl> Hrmm, ktorrent is pissing me off more and more, I'm downloading 11 torrents and the *total* download speed goes to, like, 20KB/s
[04:33] <fredl> that's just ridiculous.
[04:33] <yccheok> DJ_Gentoo, where i can get mozilla composer?
[04:33] <unimatrix9> nvu looks just like netscape composer , and there is an reason for that too
[04:33] <DJ_Gentoo> download it, use apt
[04:33] <DJ_Gentoo> apt-get install mozilla
[04:33] <unimatrix9> some developer...
[04:33] <unimatrix9> same
[04:33] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:33] <Jeruvy> sorry for the OT, but is there a firefox channel on freenode?
[04:34] <mark458> Disk /dev/sda: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes
[04:34] <mark458> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders
[04:34] <mark458> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:34] <mark458>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:34] <mark458> /dev/sda1               1       48641   390708801    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:34] <DJ_Gentoo> !pastebin
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <fredl> hmm, here's an experiment, I'll try and see if I can apt-get install azureus on my Debian unstable vmware partition...
[04:34] <fredl> and if that works fine for me, that seals Ubuntu's destiny then :P
[04:35] <DJ_Gentoo> *gasp*
[04:35] <Elrik> I'm trying to connect to my home network, and what i've done so far is
[04:35] <Elrik> Install the drivers, wrapped them with ndiswrapper, so when i type sudo ndiswrapper it says "driver installed, hardware present", and made a module and all for it, but when i press System/Administration/Networking, the only options are "MODEM" and "WIRED CONNECTION", how can I make an "WIRELESS" bar to that?
[04:35] <Elrik> What I'm using is a wireless USB 2.0 adapter 802.11g by ASUS, and the ndiswrapper from the ubuntu CD.
[04:35] <Elrik> I want to get ubuntu to work cause I hate windows,, please help if you can, also I'm trying to connect to a WGA614v6 NETGEAR router, it's encrypted and has 2 other computers using it sometimes.
[04:35] <DJ_Gentoo> !pastebin | Elrik
[04:35] <ubotu> Elrik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> fred1, it should be easy to install azeurus from the repos.
[04:35] <mark458> So I guess noone can help :(
[04:35] <DJ_Gentoo> use pastebin, and we might
[04:35] <DJ_Gentoo> !pastebin | mark458
[04:35] <ubotu> mark458: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <Elrik> since i'm desperate, sure, i will give it a shot
[04:36] <|_SpY_|> im remove my "windows vista" ... and backup "windows mail" folder... now i use ubuntu.... ok.... how i import the msgs of windows mail to Evolution email client? anybody can help me?
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> DJ_Gentoo, pastebin has been posted 84 gazillion times in 10sec, i think he got the message
[04:36] <kevor> |_SpY_|: what format are the Windows Mail files?
[04:36] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: what is your max upload speed provided by your ISP?  With bittorrent your download speed can sometimes be a factor as to how much you are uploading.  In turn.. uploading at Max bandwidth can also cause an inverse effect where it saturates the connection so much so that the download speed suffers.  This problem can be easily corrected by capping your upload speed by about 10-12% and capping your download speed by 3-5%.  D
[04:36] <chiefbearclaw> oing this will leave 'room' for the connection to breathe.
[04:36] <DJ_Gentoo> mark458: wait... you don't need to tell us all that info
[04:36] <unimatrix9> is automatix gone? or just down?
[04:37] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I just installed a whole slew of packages and the download speed was approx 450KB/s *with* ktorrent running.
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> unimatrix9, its just down, look at the message in #automatix
[04:37] <DJ_Gentoo> type "ls /media/[name of drive] " and tell us the results
[04:37] <DJ_Gentoo> I think its down
[04:37] <mark458> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7366/
[04:37] <DJ_Gentoo> hope so
[04:37] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, but ktorrent appears to be getting slower and slower.
[04:37] <unimatrix9> a overlooked that, sorry
[04:37] <mark458> There
[04:37] <DJ_Gentoo> mark458: see previous message
[04:37] <_raphael_> does anybody know what the command for crossfire-client-gtk2 is?
[04:38] <unimatrix9> mark458, whats the question?
[04:38] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I've tried fiddling a bit with the upload speed, that helped nothing whatsoever.
[04:38] <DJ_Gentoo> having trouble accessing partitions
[04:38] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: with any torrent or file sharing type app there will always be variable speed issues and with torrent there is a ton of factors behind it.
[04:38] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, portforwarding is set up properly, I'm running DHT.
[04:38] <xfab> hi there
[04:38] <Elrik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7367/
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> fredl, what problem are you having with BitTorrent?..
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> i've had issues with it also
[04:38] <fraudster> anyone here have a geforce 7300GS?
[04:39] <fraudster> anyone.... ?
[04:39] <mark458> I have a back up drive that i have stored alllll my many years of data. in windows I have no problem getting into it and using it. BUt in ubuntu I can only see the data in terminal
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> I've got a Geforce 5200
[04:39] <xfab> I've got a little question: why is everywhere "dapper" in the sources.list of Edgy Eft?
[04:39] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, sucks.
[04:39] <DJ_Gentoo> mark458: I have a soution!
[04:39] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, yeah I'm familiar with the idea behind torrents and that they *can* get slow for miscellaneous reasons, but to have ktorrent go as low as 10KB/s while downloading multiple torrents is inexcusable IMO.
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, works fine for me,
[04:39] <DJ_Gentoo> type "sudo nautilus /media
[04:39] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, no doom3 or berly
[04:39] <DJ_Gentoo>  in the terminal
[04:39] <fraudster> :)
[04:40] <iniakulohhahaha> how to make my client ( network ) can access http://server/ ? cause rite now only can browse using http://192.168.1.254
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, i use beryl just fine
[04:40] <mark458> Will i still be able to access the drive in windows?
[04:40] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, really????
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[04:40] <DJ_Gentoo> yes
[04:40] <chiefbearclaw> fraudster: please if installing the latest ATI OR NVIDIA driver take a look at this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929&highlight=Envy
[04:40] <DJ_Gentoo> through nautilus
[04:40] <leshaste> in wpa_supplicant.conf... what should ctrl_interface be?
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> i don't game, so i can't comment on Doom
[04:40] <DJ_Gentoo> you just need the permissions to do it
[04:40] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, umm... what is min for berly?
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> but its 256mb i think it could handle it.
[04:40] <DJ_Gentoo> using sudo does that
[04:40] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, mine 512 ddr3
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, i have no idea, but Beryl gives me no probs at all.
[04:40] <DJ_Gentoo> faudster: I envy you... 5200FX here
[04:40] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, like what fps?
[04:41] <xfab> I've got a little question: why is everywhere "dapper" in the sources.list of Edgy Eft?
[04:41] <DJ_Gentoo> *fraudster
[04:41] <kevor> iniakulohhahaha: $ sudo echo "192.168.1.254   server" >> /etc/hosts
[04:41] <fredl> hmm, you can do remote X things with ssh -X <hostname? right?
[04:41] <leshaste> I ask as the example has /var/run/wpa_supplicant that doesn't exist
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, its all set to default, i haven't messed with it much, and i can't get to the PC right now.
[04:41] <fraudster> DJ_Gentoo, heh
[04:41] <Uatec> fredl, try it
[04:41] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: what is you bandwidth upstream and downstream that is available when there is no file sharing or net activity whatsoever?
[04:41] <will_> Is there a program that will let me have a separate background for each workspace?
[04:41] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, I see
[04:41] <DJ_Gentoo> and it runs Beryl okay
[04:41] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, how much did the vid go for?
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> will_, i wish ther ewas
[04:41] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: you may be trying to download too many files at once.
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, like 90 bucks I think, i got it a few days ago when my older card died.
[04:42] <DJ_Gentoo> Compiz runs okay on my laptop, and its an i810...
[04:42] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, don't know exactly about upload speed. download speed it pretty much like I said earlier, 450KB/s or so
[04:42] <mark458> OK cool that worked
[04:42] <iniakulohhahaha> kevor : i have already check it b4
[04:42] <iniakulohhahaha> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[04:42] <iniakulohhahaha> 202.149.64.114  Excelsior excelsior
[04:42] <iniakulohhahaha> 192.168.1.254   Excelsior excelsior
[04:42] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, that is to expensive, rip off
[04:42] <DJ_Gentoo> mark458: yq, anytime
[04:42] <xfab> I've got a little question: why is everywhere written "dapper" in the sources.list of Edgy Eft? shouldn't there be "edgy"?
[04:42] <DJ_Gentoo> *yw
[04:42] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, the 7300GS is $80
[04:42] <mark458> Next question
[04:42] <DJ_Gentoo> whoops
[04:42] <will_> Is there a program that launches terminal command or applications by using a keyboard shortut?
[04:42] <will_> Shortcut.*
[04:42] <mark458> I dont have the codecs to see my movies.
[04:42] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, hmm, too many downloads at once?
[04:42] <DJ_Gentoo> okay...
[04:42] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: your upload speed is equally important to know.. and can be a major cause as to why your downloads of torrents are slow.
[04:42] <xfab> will_: you can set that with gnome
[04:42] <mark458> How do I get them.
[04:42] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, dvi output right?
[04:42] <DJ_Gentoo> mark458: go to www.ubuntuguide.com
[04:42] <will_> xfab: How?
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, i may be wrong on the model number, but i thought it was 5200... maybe not... but it was comparable to the prices i saw nline...
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, yes
[04:43] <DJ_Gentoo> all-in-one FAQ
[04:43] <xfab> will_: just go to System -> Settings
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> and tv output...
[04:43] <DJ_Gentoo> !ubuntuguide
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <will_> I'm using Ubuntu.
[04:43] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, I dont think it is the 5200, the price dosent make it
[04:43] <DJ_Gentoo> !guide
[04:43] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, screen?
[04:43] <googol> im all beryl requires is open GL its not a very taxing application.
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <xfab> will_: then you'll something like "Keyboard Shortcuts"
[04:43] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: try looking into queuing so that once a download finishes.. it will seed until a certain ratio... then once complete it will move to the next download.
[04:43] <will_> It's not in there.
[04:43] <iniakulohhahaha> kevor : join to  #helpmeeeeeeeee i cant pv you
[04:43] <xfab> will_: I'm using the Swiss Version, so I don't know how it's exactely called
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> will_, look at the Ubuntu wiki
[04:43] <will_> xfab: that doesn't let me choose what I want to launch.
[04:43] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I've done that too, set the max ratio to 1.2
[04:44] <kraut> moin
[04:44] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: hi thanks for the help, strangly commands like sudo gedit do not seem to work but gedit does
[04:44] <xfab> will_: you're right, I'm sorry
[04:44] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, ?
[04:44] <RuarriS> I have a sound problem, in that I only get sound from the right side
[04:44] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: A common mistake by bittorrent users is trying to download too much at once.
[04:44] <will_> xfab: it's okay
[04:44] <mark458> Tried that and I cant find what I need.
[04:44] <ardchoille> 1gksudo | bob__
[04:45] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: sorry I can't help you more
[04:45] <DJ_Gentoo> dern...
[04:45] <ardchoille> !gksudo | bob__
[04:45] <ubotu> bob__: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> will_, reference 1.6.4.2                       http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, sorry, what was your question, i was looking up that link
[04:45] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: and yw.
[04:45] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, upload speed is about 85KB/s
[04:45] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, what screen you got?
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> what screen?
[04:45] <fraudster> yes
[04:45] <xfab> anyone here knows why the there is always "dapper" in the sources.list of a Edgy Ubuntu Version?
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> you mean how big is my screen?
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> 19in
[04:45] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, the screen with the 5200
[04:46] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, so that seems pretty typical DSL, 450KB/85KB
[04:46] <meiyaaiwo> hello
[04:46] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, model?
[04:46] <will_> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[04:46] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, widescreen?
[04:46] <xfab> is it bad, if I replace all the "dapper" with "edgy"?
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, no, not widescreen
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> will_, no prob
[04:46] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, widescreen's pwn :)
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> well, i don't need or want one, frankly i think they suck
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> i dont' like widescreen tv's either
[04:47] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, nah, like all screens are wide just dont notice
[04:47] <arke> greetings. :)
[04:47] <bob__> uboto: thanks but I get an error running that for gedit
[04:47] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, why dont you like them?
[04:47] <arke> Question- what app would I use for making an image rip of a DVD?
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> fraudster, just don't.
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> i like the standard screens better.
[04:47] <idefix> if you need an nVidia GeForce 2, GeForce 4mx, or better OR an ATI Radeon 8500, 9250, or better.. is an Asus AGP-V2740, 8Mb good enough?
[04:47] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, personal preference, ok
[04:47] <mark458> So... noone knows then?
[04:47] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: okay then if you can in your client make cap your download to 430KB and cap your upload to around 70KB.  Download no more than 2 torrents at a time with those speeds.  With a max of 3 or 4 active.  (as in how many torrents are downloading and seeding.. the total of everything being shared)
[04:47] <ardchoille> bob__: Can you pastebin that error you're getting with gksudo please?
[04:48] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, brb, food is here :)
[04:48] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, hmm, ok lemme try that.
[04:48] <xfab> logout
[04:48] <rbil> mark458: you got your ntfs mount straightened out?
[04:48] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: you should experience faster downloads that way.  provided that the torrent is well seeded.
[04:48] <fredl> cap the download speed? :)
[04:48] <chiefbearclaw> yes cap it slightly
[04:48] <fredl> haha if it gets to that download speed I'll be jumping up and down dude :)
[04:48] <Mattias> ls
[04:49] <chiefbearclaw> upload is more important to cap however
[04:49] <bob__> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7369/
[04:49] <chiefbearclaw> but you don't want to saturate your download either... you see IF it maxes out.
[04:49] <will_> I made my home folder 4GB not realizing that there would be 2 gigs of hidden files.
[04:49] <will_> What should I do?
[04:50] <meiyaaiwo> ?
[04:50] <ardchoille> bob__: That is normal, ignore it.
[04:50] <idefix> are there people here with knowledge of graphics cards?
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> idefix, i know how to instlal them..lol
[04:50] <ardchoille> bob__: Well, not normal, it's being worked on. For the time being you can ignore it.
[04:51] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I have one torrent loading now, and one seeding. Set the caps to what you suggested...
[04:51] <Nozzy> hello everybody
[04:51] <mark458> So... No awnser?
[04:51] <idefix> IndyGunFreak, if you need an nVidia GeForce 2, GeForce 4mx, or better OR an ATI Radeon 8500, 9250, or better.. is an Asus AGP-V2740, 8Mb good enoug
[04:51] <adamputinski> can someone help me install ubuntu
[04:51] <Nozzy> adamputinski i can
[04:51] <chiefbearclaw> please if installing the latest ATI OR NVIDIA driver take a look at this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929&highlight=Envy
[04:51] <DJ_Gentoo> adamputinski: sure
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> idefix, look in the system specs
[04:51] <DJ_Gentoo> what's the holdup?
[04:51] <adamputinski> the resize partition
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> look at the specs on the card, then look at the specs on the motherboard
[04:52] <adamputinski> i cant figure out which way to move the slider
[04:52] <will_> Last time I tried to install Beryl I screwed X and couldn't fix it.
[04:52] <DJ_Gentoo> !partitioning | adamputinski
[04:52] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I see virtually no change whatsoever. In fact, the upload speed on the one torrent I'm now downloading is about 4 times as high as the download speed.
[04:52] <ubotu> adamputinski: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:52] <ricmik> Hello! Are there any good smb howtos? I would like to mount a smb-partition at startup, but I need to put my password in some kind of file..
[04:52] <stawholon-8430> Hi, is there someone who can help me how to see folders on the server from my client?
[04:52] <will_> I wan't Beryl but I don't want to screw X.
[04:52] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: of course if the torrent that is download is of absolute primary concern that stop all other torrents and only focus on that one.
[04:52] <will_> Last time I tried to install Beryl I screwed X and couldn't fix it.
[04:52] <ardchoille> !smb
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <DJ_Gentoo> will_: Compiz is the answer!
[04:52] <DJ_Gentoo> !compiz
[04:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:53] <googol> will_: intel chipsets is the answer :)
[04:53] <will_> DJ_Gentoo: Does Compiz do transparent window borders?
[04:53] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, well it's not particularly 'important', just trying to figure out how I can maximize the *total* throughput
[04:53] <mark458> I keep hearing a noise like Im getting a mesege but I dont see one...
[04:53] <DJ_Gentoo> will_: heck yes
[04:53] <bob__> ardchoille: well I am trying to install a firewall, if I cannot do that I must abandon ubuntu  :\
[04:53] <will_> DJ_Gentoo: How do I install it?
[04:53] <DJ_Gentoo> !compiz
[04:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:53] <meowpeow> I cant connect to archive.ubuntu.com so I cant update, and it has been down for hours. Anyone know what the story is on that?
[04:53] <unop> !firestarter | bob__
[04:53] <ubotu> bob__: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:53] <DJ_Gentoo> there are the links you need
[04:54] <stawholon-8430> Sorry it's the first time in a chat, how do I know if someone is answer to me?
[04:54] <ardchoille> bob__: You already have a firewall, it's called iptables. There is a nice GUI frontend to config it: sudo apt-get install firestarter.
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> if you use a software firewall in Linux, I declare you secruity anal..lol
[04:54] <adamputinski> I am trying to use the ubuntu resize partition, but I dont know which way to move the slider
[04:54] <ompaul> stawholon-8430, normally people preface an answer with your name
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> hardware firewall/router should do it.
[04:54] <unop> IndyGunFreak,  what?
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, just delete windows.
[04:54] <dmb062082> is there a shortcut to changing my color depth or do i have to edit xorg.conf
[04:54] <DJ_Gentoo> adamputinski: look at the numbers
[04:55] <ElbridgeGerry> I don't have my install CD anymore, how do I get build-essential?
[04:55] <yccheok> may i noe what file i should edit, in order my $PATH to be updated, during ubuntu startup??
[04:55] <DJ_Gentoo> Indy: lol
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> unop, you disagree?
[04:55] <adamputinski> yeah, which side is my windows partition
[04:55] <will_> I did apt-get on Compiz and all the stuff it requires.
[04:55] <will_> Now what?
[04:55] <snille> Anyone using "kiba-dock" here?
[04:55] <DJ_Gentoo> the one that sayd NTFS
[04:55] <ompaul> yccheok, typically you add it to your .profile
[04:55] <DJ_Gentoo> *says
[04:55] <guiden> How do I control the hub or switch or whatever it is that is plugged to the internet?
[04:55] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I also notice that the download speed is heavily fluctuating
[04:55] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: just stop all other running torrents then... (don't forget to reseed them later) simply just let the torrent run.. upload and download speeds are going to fluctuate.  Its normal.
[04:55] <stawholon-8430> ompaul, hi
[04:55] <DJ_Gentoo> will_: install AIGLX
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> AIGLX!
[04:55] <snille> !kiba-dock
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <DJ_Gentoo> beryl-project.org/wiki
[04:56] <unop> IndyGunFreak,  yes, because if you dont protect your computer with one, you have no control over what originates from your computer itself
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> !aiglx
[04:56] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[04:56] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: if you can manually announce or update the tracker since you just recently changed your upload and download caps.
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> unop, let me clarify that, i use a hardware firewall/router i've tweaked pretty well.
[04:56] <will_> DJ_Gentoo: how?
[04:56] <unop> ricmik,  what kind of file requires your password?
[04:56] <will_> DJ_Gentoo: Terminal?
[04:56] <DJ_Gentoo> #ubuntu-effects is where t's at
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> i wasn't suggesting just hook up tot he net and go.
[04:56] <DJ_Gentoo> go there
[04:56] <ompaul> stawholon-8430, hi there, please address the channel I may not have the answer you need, also please use commas, much as I am here, and make your point on one line, if you spread it across many lines you will be unreadable and annoy people
[04:56] <adamputinski> it just says resize SCSl1(0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use free disk space
[04:56] <will_> Me go there?
[04:56] <betatux> Where do you go for wallpapers ?
[04:56] <DJ_Gentoo> yes...
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> betatux, anywhere
[04:57] <mark458> OK Im getting mad. I was able to play one of my videos last night and now I cant!
[04:57] <betatux> IndyGunFreak, gimme some links pls
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> gnome-look.org   kde-look.org
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> are two that have linux wallpapers
[04:57] <unop> IndyGunFreak,  can that firewall (tweaked so well) control what originates on your computer that's destined for hosts on your LAN ?
[04:57] <Mattias> !screensaver config
[04:57] <betatux> IndyGunFreak, i've covered gnome-look.org
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> betatux, then i don't know what else to tell you
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> unop, nothing is perfect, but id' bet my network is way more secure than alot of the
[04:58] <yccheok> ompaul, how about ~/.bashrc, is it good idea?
[04:58] <bob__> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7370/
[04:58] <mark458> OK Im getting ready to go back to windows.
[04:58] <ElbridgeGerry> Why in the world do I need an install cd to get build-essential?
[04:58] <thomas-dosanjh> Hello guys could i get a quick bit of help please
[04:58] <unop> !worksforme | IndyGunFreak, sorry dude :) that's "your setup" and it's not universal
[04:58] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak, sorry dude :) that's "your setup" and it's not universal: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> thomas-dosanjh, just ask
[04:59] <ElbridgeGerry> Why can't I get it from the repositories without one?
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> unop, lol, if you say so.
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> but i'm 100% confident
[04:59] <shriphani_> ElbridgeGerry, you can
[04:59] <thomas-dosanjh> Well i have installed xubuntu and i have a belkin wifi card the problem is my laptop has detected the card but it cannot connect
[04:59] <ricmik> unop: I need a file that specifies my password for the smb client
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> thomas-dosanjh, good luck
[04:59] <ricmik> so I can mount it with fstab
[05:00] <ricmik> I'm used to FreeBSD, so I'm not sure where to do it :P
[05:00] <thomas-dosanjh> Do u know how i could sort this
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> not a clue
[05:00] <DJ_Gentoo> thomas: get in range
[05:00] <avinash> where can i find extra repositories for ubuntu
[05:00] <will_> I just replaced Metacity!
[05:00] <bob__> chiefbearclaw: SUCCESS, dunno how but it ups in the manager now
[05:00] <DJ_Gentoo> make sure you're in range of the WAP
[05:00] <adamputinski> it just says resize SCSl1(0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use free disk space. And then there is a slider that has a percentage and a GB amount. I just want to know which way to slide it so my linux partition has about 10GB
[05:00] <will_> How can I get it back? Fast!
[05:00] <thomas-dosanjh> im like 2 meters away from the router
[05:00] <will_> Not deleted.
[05:00] <DJ_Gentoo> okay, nvm
[05:00] <thomas-dosanjh> the lights on the card are not up
[05:00] <will_> Just loaded Compiz over it.
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> will_, what is metacity?
[05:00] <bulmer> ricmik: i dont think its anymore more different than in fbsd
[05:00] <DJ_Gentoo> metacity --replace
[05:01] <ElbridgeGerry> IndyGunFreak: GNOME window manager
[05:01] <DJ_Gentoo> will_: metacity --replace
[05:01] <ricmik> bulmer: in fbsd there is a nsmbd.conf
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> ElbridgeGerry, oh
[05:01] <will_> DJ_Gentoo, thanks, alot.
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> ElbridgeGerry, why do people call it metacity
[05:01] <gop> !Kylix
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kylix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <thomas-dosanjh> #xubuntu
[05:01] <ricmik> bulmer: to specify IP, user, password and stuff
[05:01] <will_> AGH!
[05:01] <ElbridgeGerry> IndyGunFreak: Because that's it's name?
[05:01] <bulmer> ricmik: what does that file do? or configurations for?
[05:01] <will_> I can't load the terminal.
[05:01] <will_> :P
[05:01] <will_> Sorry.
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> ElbridgeGerry, i never heard it called that.., i guess thats why i asked.
[05:01] <DJ_Gentoo> reboot might help
[05:01] <shriphani_> i used flux in place of metacity once
[05:01] <will_> I can't reboot.
[05:01] <root____> how can i change ubuntu password from console (I'm in recovery mode now)?
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> ElbridgeGerry, so whats Compiz?  KDE?
[05:02] <DJ_Gentoo> root___: passwd
[05:02] <chiefbearclaw> bob__: good to hear.. not sure exactly why or how... perhaps dig in the forums or make a new post and explain your problem what you experienced was odd IMO.
[05:02] <root____> thanks
[05:02] <DJ_Gentoo> np
[05:02] <ompaul> yccheok, that can work too, I tend to add it .profile if you run "less  /etc/profile" you will see how they are set up as global defaults and then the .profile sets up local users
[05:02] <shriphani_> will_, you cant reboot ?
[05:03] <will_> Not now.
[05:03] <ElbridgeGerry> How do I install build-essential? It keeps asking me for my install CD (I've overwritten it)
[05:03] <shriphani_> ....
[05:03] <mark458> HOW DO I GET CODECS!!!
[05:03] <will_> I can't access terminal and no GUI.
[05:03] <{Nathan}> I'm trying to make a router out of this ubuntu box, what's the best software to do this with?
[05:03] <ompaul> !caps
[05:03] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> mark458, they are in the repositories
[05:03] <will_> This is the only working window.
[05:03] <ElbridgeGerry> will_: Ctrl+Alt+Esc
[05:03] <ompaul> !codecs | mark458
[05:03] <ubotu> mark458: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:03] <ElbridgeGerry> will_: Will restare X
[05:03] <unop> ricmik,  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[05:03] <ElbridgeGerry> *restart
[05:03] <shriphani_> will_, you killed metacity ?
[05:03] <ricmik> bulmer: you set up options for the smbclient.. like this:  [SERVER:USER]  and then options like: password=pwd, addr=ip.addr
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> mark458, are you using edgy>
[05:03] <will_> ElbridgeGerry,  How.
[05:04] <shriphani_> typing /exec -o metacity might do the work
[05:04] <mark458> i DONT KNOW WHAT EDGY IS.
[05:04] <bulmer> ricmik: that seems to be the same as the smb.conf file
[05:04] <mark458> Oops
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> mark458, are you using Ubuntu 6.10
[05:04] <ElbridgeGerry> will_: It brings you back to the login screen.
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> or 6.06
[05:04] <DJ_Gentoo> !edgy
[05:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:04] <will_> I can't do anything.
[05:04] <ElbridgeGerry> mark458: "Edgy" is 6.10, and I think 6.06 is Dapper.
[05:04] <shriphani_> will_, did you try /exec -o metacity ?
[05:04] <will_> Is it safe to hit the power button?
[05:04] <will_> I can't access thne terminal.
[05:04] <will_> The.*
[05:04] <DJ_Gentoo> will_: try this:
[05:04] <rbil> IndyGunFreak: he doesn't appear to respond to questions, so helping him is near impossible
[05:04] <shriphani_> type it where you type you chat
[05:05] <ElbridgeGerry> will_: Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Esc?
[05:05] <{Nathan}> will_, /exec metacity in your client
[05:05] <DJ_Gentoo> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> DJ_Gentoo,  you know the only thing that scars me about people saying "they have the latest" .. how many times has someone said that, and then wefigure out they are using Dapper.
[05:05] <will_> ElbridgeGerry, Yes.
[05:05] <DJ_Gentoo> and then, metacity --replace
[05:05] <ricmik> bulmer: isn't the smb.conf file only for configuring local smb server?
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> rbil, i jus started noticing that..lol
[05:05] <xukun> when I try to start a program from console I get this error: Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: XML declaration not well-formed Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:05] <DJ_Gentoo> Indy: scary
[05:05] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, do you use ktorrent yourself?
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> DJ_Gentoo, lol, exactly
[05:05] <xukun> any ideas?
[05:05] <unop> ricmik, this has a howto on setting up a credentials file for smbmount - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[05:05] <shriphani_> WildZeck, type the command in your xchat message box........ if you have it that is
[05:05] <DJ_Gentoo> will_: tried it yet?
[05:05] <bulmer> ricmik: there is a config file for the server and one for the client ..
[05:05] <will_> What?
[05:05] <DJ_Gentoo> oh... and Ctrl+Alt+F7 gets you back
[05:06] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, I've used Azureus in the past and from what I recall I didn't have much speed problems with it.
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[05:06] <bulmer> ricmik: see unop's link
[05:06] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: I use azureus in linux because I need all the extra bloated features.
[05:06] <will_> Okay.
[05:06] <mark458> I have the newest version
[05:06] <will_> Thanks.
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> that gets you a console
[05:06] <mark458> I think its 6.10
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> and then...
[05:06] <ricmik> thanks
[05:06] <heathen> whats new in indy ,Indy?
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> metacity --replace
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> mark458, i think doesn't cut it.
[05:06] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, but azureus crashes on me now :/
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> mark458:
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> uname -r
[05:06] <Znuff> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu-Server version 6.06.1 LTS and it seems there's a problem with ipv4 forwarding, I can't get get it to work. It works only with masquerade on =/ I've got ipv4_forwarding set to 1
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, not much snow finally went away, now we have a freakin ice storm
[05:06] <DJ_Gentoo> type that
[05:07] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, in fact, it dumps a core on me :/
[05:07] <heathen> IndyGunFreak, yeah, sometimes im glad i left
[05:07] <Nozzy> what do people suggest for first time users of linux from a windows/mac enviornment? Kubuntu Xubuntu or just Ubuntu?
[05:07] <ElbridgeGerry> mark458: Or just go to System > About Ubuntu
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, na, i love it here
[05:07] <mark458> Yes its 6.10
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> mark458,     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[05:07] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: well see if there is some help here or in the forums to get you back to using azureus then :)
[05:07] <heathen> i did too... but i couldnt find good work
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> that link will tell you all you need to know
[05:07] <ElbridgeGerry> Nozzy: Definitely Ubuntu. GNOME is easier to get used to than KDE
[05:07] <gop> where can I get the ubuntu soure code
[05:07] <bauer77> Nozzi They are all similar but I would say Ubuntu
[05:07] <DJ_Gentoo> gop: all of it?!?! :o
[05:07] <gop> !source code
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source code - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <gop> DJ_Gentoo,  yes
[05:07] <gop> I just want to prove some one wrong
[05:08] <DJ_Gentoo> are yo ucrazy?
[05:08] <gop> some I know claimed it not realy gpl
[05:08] <unop> gop,  apt-get source packagename
[05:08] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, what sound of town did you live on?
[05:08] <Nozzy> ElbridgeGerry, alright, i heard that KDE was much more windows like than GNOME tho, only tried GNOME myself
[05:08] <Zero9983> i using ubuntu 6.06 , how do i check my apache is installed ?
[05:08] <heathen> NE near giest
[05:08] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, you installed any extra Java stuff on your system that didn't come with the automatic dependencies?
[05:08] <DJ_Gentoo> you want to prove it's 100% GNU?
[05:08] <bulmer> Nozzy for closest to windows look a like, my experience was with SuSE 9.3 with KDE
[05:08] <ElbridgeGerry> gop: Here's the source: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:08] <gop> DJ_Gentoo,  yes
[05:08] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, i see.. what do you do?..
[05:08] <gop> ElbridgeGerry,  thanks
[05:08] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, back
[05:08] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, miss anything?
[05:09] <rbil> gop: what part of Ubuntu? not all packages are gpl
[05:09] <IndyGunFreak> no, just some idiot yelling about codecs but not responding to questions
[05:09] <heathen> A/V insta;llation..  not CCTV
[05:09] <IndyGunFreak> oh i see...
[05:09] <heathen> lol
[05:09] <DJ_Gentoo> if you want 100%, try gNewSense
[05:09] <Nozzy> bulmer, ok, but is there any big differences in SuSe with KDE and kubuntu?
[05:09] <DJ_Gentoo> aka Gnubuntu
[05:09] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, there's probably a bigger gig for that out west i imagine
[05:09] <bauer77> any good place to listen to streaming music since I cant get Yahoo Launchcast working?
[05:09] <bulmer> Nozzy: most likely not, if any
[05:09] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: nope all the dependencies synaptic needed it got to make azureus work.  Since there was no icon I made one to my desktop to launch it.
[05:09] <gop> thanks
[05:09] <heathen> south actually,  but one day i will return
[05:09] <Nozzy> ok, thanks :D
[05:09] <gop> rbil,  the main subsystem
[05:09] <fraudster> IndyGunFreak, welcome to irc. :P
[05:10] <ricmik> btw... if I put myself in the root-group.. I could do stuff without sudoing?
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:10] <ElbridgeGerry> Nozzy: You'll get more compatibility and a larger set of packages with Kubuntu, though
[05:10] <DJ_Gentoo> fraud: lol
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, texas?
[05:10] <rbil> gop: what is the main subsystem?
[05:10] <lesshaste> is there an app that shows the signal strengh of wireless connections?
[05:10] <DJ_Gentoo> I'm up in New York... waaay up
[05:10] <heathen> im working on a computer science degree...  no, georgia
[05:10] <Nozzy> next question, is there any good irc clients for ubuntu? with good i mean very mIRC like
[05:10] <ElbridgeGerry> lesshaste: If you're using GNOME, it's in the top right. Green bar.
[05:10] <bauer77> yes lesshaste its buti into ubuntu
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> DJ_Gentoo, sorry to hear that..lol
[05:10] <DJ_Gentoo> as in a half-hour's drive to Canada
[05:10] <bulmer> Nozzy: its just that ubuntu uses debian style and Suse uses  rpm style for package management..your concern if you are about to add new packages
[05:10] <gop> the kernel and just general ubuntu system
[05:10] <shriphani_> Nozzy, xchat !!
[05:10] <DJ_Gentoo> I'm not kidding
[05:10] <gop> not any third party packages
[05:10] <heathen> xchat is good
[05:10] <rbil> gop: what is "general ubuntu system"?
[05:10] <ricmik> Nozzy: mIRC in Wine ;)
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, georgia?  id idn't even know they knew what PCs were... ;)
[05:10] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, well according to my /etc/alternatives/java I'm using Sun's j2re1.5... I must've installed that but I'm wondering.... it may be I installed that on Breezy and it never got updated going to Edgy
[05:10] <chiefbearclaw> Nozzy: xchat is correct its the most mIRC like
[05:10] <heathen> lol
[05:11] <bauer77> go to your taskbar and add to panel network monitor
[05:11] <lesshaste> ElbridgeGerry, ok.. I am not in gnome.. what is it called?
[05:11] <Nozzy> xchat wasn't to my liking at all hehe
[05:11] <syntaxx> anyone know about login.conf passwordtime? im having problem in implementing it i put :passwordtime=1:\ for testing and then i logged after a minute it doesnt seem to work any help?
[05:11] <Nozzy> and i can't get wine to run
[05:11] <DJ_Gentoo> using Gaim
[05:11] <lesshaste> bauer77, not in xubuntu
[05:11] <gop> forget it I foudn it
[05:11] <DJ_Gentoo> on Edgy
[05:11] <gop> found it
[05:11] <IndyGunFreak> Nozzy, try x-chat gnome, or irssi
[05:11] <ElbridgeGerry> lesshaste: Wouldn't know.
[05:11] <heathen> atlanta isnt really a southern city, it's just located here
[05:11] <syntaxx> anyone know about login.conf passwordtime? im having problem in implementing it i put :passwordtime=60s:\ for testing and then i logged after a minute it doesnt seem to work any help?
[05:11] <ElbridgeGerry> I'm using Gaim because I'm too lazy to get xchat
[05:11] <DJ_Gentoo> Nozzy, Gaim works for IRC...
[05:11] <shriphani_> IndyGunFreak, i think he  tried xchat-gnome
[05:11] <bauer77> oh sorry didnt see you say xubuntu
[05:11] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, i see.. never been that far south.
[05:11] <Nozzy> is gaim any good?
[05:11] <DJ_Gentoo> yes
[05:11] <ElbridgeGerry> Nozzy: NO.
[05:11] <IndyGunFreak> shriphani_, well sounds like irssi is the way to go for him.
[05:11] <Nozzy> it seemed very confusing
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> Nozzy, better than Kopete
[05:12] <ElbridgeGerry> It sucks for IRC.
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> if you ask me
[05:12] <Rprp>   Badqueen Bam-Bam ChanServ Duiv`game Eggdrop JGotti Klopke Lexus madgirl perry Rprp
[05:12] <bauer77> I likeg gaim other than the graphical interface
[05:12] <DJ_Gentoo> lol
[05:12] <lesshaste> bauer77, any idea?  presumably I can run the gnome app if I can find its name
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> bauer77, lol, isn't that all it has going for it.
[05:12] <ElbridgeGerry> Other IM services, it's great for
[05:12] <shriphani_> no xchat-common is good...... xchat-gnome was eww
[05:12] <lesshaste> Nozzy, yes gaim is good
[05:12] <Nozzy> well i like my mIRC because i can add graphical feels to it
[05:12] <Zero9983> i using ubuntu 6.06 , how do i check my apache is installed ?
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> shriphani_, see i'm just the opposite, i like Xchat Gnome, and don't like Xchat-common
[05:12] <shriphani_> heh
[05:12] <ElbridgeGerry> heathen: I'd go so far as to say DC here is more of a southern city than Atlanta.
[05:12] <bauer77> Indy I would prefer to just have the name there, other than the big icons, I havent foudn out where to change that
[05:13] <heathen> it is
[05:13] <Nozzy> hege
[05:13] <heathen> lol
[05:13] <chiefbearclaw> Nozzy: then you need xchat not xchat-gnome
[05:13] <googol> talking about irc on irc ...pfft
[05:13] <dadujagat> !tell dadujagat about lamp
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> bauer77, hm,
[05:13] <heathen> too many "damn yankees" here..
[05:13] <fredl> chiefbearclaw, heh I removed the sun2jre package and now azureus no longer crashes.
[05:13] <Nozzy> or as someone said, just mIRC in wine :)
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, lol
[05:13] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: nice!
[05:13] <adamputinski> can I send someone a screen shot of where i am at?
[05:13] <fredl> Now I wonder if I can continue downloading torrents that I started downloading with ktorrents in Azureus.
[05:13] <mark458> DAMN IT!!! My backup drive is LOCKED AGAIN!!!
[05:13] <ElbridgeGerry> adamputinski: Press "print screen"
[05:13] <Nozzy> i don't know how to run wine once it's downloaded in ubuntu tho :S
[05:13] <heathen> diffrence between a yankee and a damn yankee...  yankees go home eventually
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> mark458, have you ever heard of paxil?
[05:13] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: of course
[05:14] <mark458> No
[05:14] <adamputinski> can I send the screen to someone so they can help me
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> you should
[05:14] <Phasor> Hello all
[05:14] <ElbridgeGerry> !language | mark458
[05:14] <ubotu> mark458: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:14] <lesshaste> also..  I just got wpa working with madwifi but it was quite hard. There seems to be a bug that means that nm-applet doesn't recognise madwifi at all
[05:14] <ompaul> mark458, stop with the caps lock, and second is your backup drive a native ubuntu partition?
[05:14] <chiefbearclaw> fredl: just open the *,torrents and point it to the path of the already partially or fully downloaded files and all will resume.
[05:14] <ardchoille> adamputinski: Post the screenshot at: http://www.imageshack.us/
[05:14] <mark458> No
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> well then there's you rproblem
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> see, problem solved
[05:14] <mark458> My backup is an NTFS I need to beable to use it in windows and here.
[05:15] <bulmer> lesshaste: which tutorial you used for getting a wpa working?
[05:15] <fredl> open the *,torrents ? :)
[05:15] <ompaul> mark458, so actually what is the issue with it?
[05:15] <mark458> Theres a red x on the drive.
[05:15] <ompaul> mark458, is that all?
[05:15] <kaluna> anyone using vsftpd w/local login? I need some help ,can't login.
[05:15] <fredl> oh ! I see
[05:15] <mark458> I cant veiw any fiels on it.
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul, lol
[05:15] <rbil> ompaul: he hasn't mounted it properly
[05:15] <ComputerHermit> hello  1021 users
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> rbil, exactly
[05:15] <fr500> has anyone got advancemenu to work in edgy?
[05:15] <Zero9983> i using ubuntu 6.06 , how do i check my apache is installed ?
[05:16] <IndyGunFreak> Zero9983, open synaptic, and do a search for apache...
[05:16] <bulmer> Zero9983: ps aux|grep httpd  to check if its running
[05:16] <IndyGunFreak> see if there's a green box by it when it shows up
[05:16] <ompaul> Zero9983, if installed it is running "ps auwx | grep apache"
[05:16] <ardchoille> Zero9983: apt-cache policy apache2
[05:16] <Phasor> I've downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 for i386 and checked the MD5sum. They both match. I've burnt the ISO file to CD and inserted it into my computer rebooted, and loaded up the first menu. I then selected the Check CD for Defects option. It got to 56% of the kernel loaded and then stopped and said: Disk Error 80, AX = 4200, driver 9F. This has now happened twice on two different CDs. Is there anything I can do? Do you think I should try installing 6.06?
[05:16] <IndyGunFreak> Phasor, just curious, what speed are you burning the CD's?
[05:17] <Phasor> Full speed
[05:17] <chiefbearclaw> Phasor: I think you should re-burn the iso slower
[05:17] <marshall> hey guys
[05:17] <NkZ> Greetings
[05:17] <heathen> yeh
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Phasor, trn your burnspeed down nice and slow, and let it take its time
[05:17] <adamputinski> can someone take a look at this screen shot and help me so my linux partition has about 12GB http://adamputinski.com/misc/Screenshot.png
[05:17] <bulmer> Phasor:  i have similar experience..you just have to be persistent, i think it might be the burner or k3b...lol
[05:17] <mark458> Ompaul: Yes for now that s what my problem is
[05:17] <Phasor> The disk verifies in the burning program
[05:17] <Phasor> Okay
[05:17] <krantix> hi! i was looking for a nice batch image re size program... any clues??? thanksss!!!!
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Phasor, and it will
[05:17] <Phasor> I'll try a slower speed
[05:17] <marshall> does anybody know how to make a section of shell script run quietly in the terminal and not report errors or output?
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> iu've had this problem many times,
[05:17] <Phasor> Thanks for the advice.
[05:17] <NkZ> I don't know If anyone has had this same Issue, but Since I updated my ubuntu this stuff is like a freakin Windows ME session
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> I usually burn ISO's at around 2-4x.. takes a while, but they always work
[05:17] <ComputerHermit> I need a emulatior or virtul disk
[05:17] <googol> dont cheak for defect just install lol
[05:17] <ardchoille> adamputinski: At least you were trying to google, good job :)
[05:18] <bulmer> marshall:  pipe the output to  > /dev/null
[05:18] <IndyGunFreak> googol, thats what i do to, i've never checked a disk for defects..lol
[05:18] <ompaul> mark458, so is this drive within the machine or without?
[05:18] <bauer77> yes do what googol said
[05:18] <heathen> i usually burn at 4x...  my comp doesnt like 2x
[05:18] <ardchoille> EV|Server: Please turn that script off.
[05:18] <lesshaste> bulmer, it was a long and painful process... in the end I did it with debug on and found out what the various problems were.
[05:18] <lesshaste> bulmer,  I can summarise if you like
[05:18] <yccheok> hi all, i try to add export PATH=~/jdk1.6.0/bin:"${PATH}" to ~/.bash_profile, but after i restart my ubuntu, there are no effect at all, may i noe what's wrong?
[05:18] <mark458> What do you mean within or without?
[05:18] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, a lot of install problems people report on here, could be fixed with a slower burn
[05:18] <marshall> bulmer: is that the right way to do it? ' > /dev/null'?
[05:18] <shriphani_> yccheok, open a terminal and type bash
[05:18] <heathen> external or internal drive mark
[05:18] <mark458> Its an internal sata drive
[05:18] <bulmer> lesshaste if you have it in a web site, that would be nice, so I can download and learn from your experiences too..thank you in advance
[05:19] <ComputerHermit> the only problem Iam haveing is no sound
[05:19] <adamputinski> can someone help? http://adamputinski.com/misc/Screenshot.png
[05:19] <shriphani_> yccheok, or the name of the shell you are using
[05:19] <lesshaste> bulmer, not on a website yet... you can have the info first :)
[05:19] <bulmer> marshall:  to pipe the output to the black hole yes...
[05:19] <EV|Server> Did someone Hilight me?
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, whats the issue?
[05:19] <heathen> indygunfreak, yeah, it took me awhile to figure that out on my end
[05:19] <ComputerHermit> can I instll sndconfig.rpm off of a oolder version
[05:19] <ardchoille> yccheok: drop the "export", it's just: PATH=~/jdk1.6.0/bin:"${PATH}"
[05:19] <bulmer> lesshaste btw you are using some kind of atheros chip right to make that wifi work?
[05:19] <adamputinski> I want my linux partition to have about 12GB, which way should I move the slider?
[05:19] <NkZ> Anyone has had issues with ubuntu since the last update?
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, yeah, i've gotten to the point where i only burn at 4x, and it always works
[05:20] <yccheok> shriphani_, i type bash, nothing happen, the path still not updated.
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, so move the slider till its around 12-15gigs
[05:20] <EV|Server> adamputinski, to the left.
[05:20] <shriphani_> hmm
[05:20] <adamputinski> left or right?
[05:20] <lesshaste> bulmer, yes..with the madwifi drive4r
[05:20] <heathen> im trying hard to keep up with the conversation, but the broken hand majes it difficult
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> left...lol
[05:20] <lesshaste> bulmer, in summary 1) use synaptic to install the madwifi driver
[05:20] <bulmer> lesshaste sure i will get the instrucstions from you, where may I download it from?
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> heathen, i follow.. i broke my ankle a couple nights ago, bu ti dont' need it to type..lol
[05:20] <heathen> lol
[05:20] <NkZ> Anyone has had issues with ubuntu since the last update?
[05:20] <adamputinski> the smallest it goes is 49GB and the largest is 71GB
[05:20] <ardchoille> yccheok: And you don't need to restart Ubuntu, just run: source ~/.bash_profile
[05:20] <I-kido> adamputinski: 78,5 - 12 =
[05:20] <heathen> thatd be quite the tallent though
[05:21] <adamputinski> oh
[05:21] <lesshaste> bulmer, 2) create /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/network/interfaces
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, then you may have to choose a manual edit.
[05:21] <mark458> ompaul are you there?
[05:21] <ompaul> mark458, could you please prefix your comments with the name of the person you want to talk with so they can see you are replying I nearly missed that, okay please do the following in a terminal, "sudo fdisk -l " and copy the results to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org where I can see tham thanks
[05:21] <lesshaste> bulmer, 3) run sudo wpa_supplicant -dd -Bw -Dmadwifi -i ath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[05:21] <yccheok> yccheok@yccheok-desktop:~$ echo $PATH
[05:21] <yccheok> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[05:21] <yccheok> yccheok@yccheok-desktop:~$ source ~/.bash_profile
[05:21] <yccheok> yccheok@yccheok-desktop:~$ echo $PATH
[05:21] <yccheok> /home/yccheok/jdk1.6.0/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[05:21] <lesshaste> bulmer, 4) dhclient
[05:21] <lesshaste> bulmer, :)
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> ycceok !pastebin
[05:21] <yccheok> ardchoille, do i need to explicitly source everytime?
[05:21] <ardchoille> yccheok: There ya go :)
[05:21] <ompaul> mark458, also please tell me the url when it is done ;-)
[05:21] <ardchoille> yccheok: No
[05:21] <adamputinski> it doesnt go to 78GB
[05:22] <adamputinski> only to 71GB
[05:22] <mark458> OMPAUL how do I send you the message?
[05:22] <Phasor> Should I try burning it at 2x or 1x do you think?
[05:22] <ardchoille> yccheok: That was just to reload it since you changed it.
[05:22] <Elrik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7367/
[05:22] <lesshaste> bulmer, the contents of the two files I gave you are described in tutorials... but it was all a little obscure at first
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, well.. did you try a manual edit?
[05:22] <lesshaste> bulmer, I'll put it online when I get a chance
[05:22] <adamputinski> I'm not sure how
[05:22] <yccheok> ardchoille, but now, if i go and open a new console, the effect still not seen
[05:22] <adamputinski> could you step me through?
[05:22] <mark458> OMPAUL
[05:22] <lesshaste> bulmer, the madwifi/nm-applet bug is very annoying
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, not by memory...
[05:22] <bulmer> lesshaste i have been trying to get a WPA working, but i have a ACX111 chip, so am not sure if it suppors WPA..i have not been successful yet
[05:22] <mark458> How do I send you a mesage?
[05:22] <yccheok> ardchoille, after i open a new console, i still need to explicitly source it.
[05:23] <ardchoille> yccheok: Close all terminals and check again
[05:23] <lesshaste> bulmer, ah...well you should clearly check that first...
[05:23] <adamputinski> could I send another screen shot?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> how do i get the non free codecs WITHOUT USEING AUTOMATIX
[05:23] <ardchoille> yccheok: You may need to log out and back in, then. I didn't need to do that.
[05:23] <lesshaste> how do I tell which ubuntu version I am running from the command line?
[05:23] <heathen> type /msg <nick>
[05:23] <ompaul> mark458, keep it in the channel please and do not use caps
[05:23] <yccheok> ardchoille, i try...
[05:23] <fredl> man that's just scary to have azureus running again and all of the sudden my system's fan comes on :P
[05:23] <ompaul> !codecs | ubuntu_
[05:23] <ubotu> ubuntu_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> adamputinski, just click the manual edit, and click next and see what happens
[05:23] <ardchoille> !restricted | ubuntu_
[05:23] <shriphani_> yccheok, try PATH=$PATH:/the/reqd./dir ; export PATH
[05:23] <Elrik> *begs all for answer on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7367/*
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> !paxil
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paxil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <adamputinski> I did, I'm just not sure what to do from here
[05:24] <mark458> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372/
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> you need to resize the partition to 12gigs(disk that size id' prolly go 20, but thats me)
[05:24] <adamputinski> http://adamputinski.com/misc/Screenshot-1.png
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> then format the new partition in ext3
[05:24] <ompaul> !wireless | Elrik
[05:24] <ubotu> Elrik: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:24] <betatux> Anyone running World of Warcraft in a window (not fullscreen) ?
[05:25] <dadujagat> my first time trying linux... i've just installed ubuntu desktop 6.10 and realized there's no LAMP in it. Can i just put in 6.06 server installation cd in and install LAMP from there?
[05:25] <bulmer> lesshaste  lsb_release -a
[05:25] <lastnode> dadujagat, 6.10 does have LAMP on it.
[05:25] <yccheok> :( not work too, i still need to source it explicitly......
[05:25] <mark458> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372/
[05:25] <lastnode> dadujagat, open synaptic, and look for apache2, mysql 5, php5 and so on
[05:25] <ardchoille> !lamp | dadujagat
[05:25] <ubotu> dadujagat: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:26] <lesshaste> bulmer, thx!
[05:26] <yccheok> seem that bash_profile is not excecuted during startup? how i can confirm that?
[05:26] <dadujagat> lastnode: even the desktop install cd's?
[05:26] <bulmer> dadujagat: you can add those AMP components one at a time,
[05:26] <lastnode> dadujagat, well it downloads from the web, is that ok?
[05:26] <lesshaste> bulmer, any idea how to see which wireless driver version you have installed?
[05:26] <rbil> mark458: I asked you about a half hour ago to include the contents of your fstab file as well. Do that and someone can help you.
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> rbil, lol
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> i gave up on him 30min ago.
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:26] <mark458> how do I talk to somone in red?
[05:27] <bulmer> lesshaste since you know your chip card and it uses ath_xxx ,  lsmod |grep ath   maybe will tell you something
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> mark458, you put their name in front of whatever you type
[05:27] <lastnode> mark458, highlight their nick by typing it out
[05:27] <lesshaste> bulmer, ok
[05:27] <unop> yccheok,  during what startup? gnome's or bash's ?
[05:27] <dadujagat> lastnode: how to do it? i cant find 'em in add/remove..
[05:27] <ubuntu_> how do i get the non free codecs WITHOUT USEING AUTOMATIX
[05:27] <shriphani_> yccheok, PATH=$PATH:/the/reqd/dir ; export PATH
[05:27] <lastnode> dadujagat, Synaptic Package Manager
[05:27] <bulmer> lesshaste or  check  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/    they are in these directory
[05:27] <sgorilla80> when im sshed to a server, running python, arrow keys come up as ^[[D^
[05:27] <lastnode> !synaptic
[05:27] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:27] <ubuntu_> sorry didnt mean to do that
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_, reference the wiki
[05:27] <cchance> Is it safe for me to upgrade to edgy? Is it able to use dialup? I did last time and i ended up having to reformat
[05:27] <mark458> ompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372/
[05:27] <sgorilla80> how do i get it to read and execute on the key codfes
[05:27] <ardchoille> ubuntu_: Two people have told you how to do that
[05:27] <dadujagat> lastnode: thank.. will try that
[05:27] <meowpeow> um, how do you remove join/part messages in xchat-gnome?
[05:27] <Phasor> When I've successfully burned the Ubuntu CD, I would like to try out Beryl on the Live CD before trying it on a proper install. Can I do this?
[05:27] <heathen> !codecs | ubuntu_
[05:27] <ubotu> ubuntu_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <ubuntu_> i am sorry i didnt mean to do that
[05:28] <lastnode> cchance, well if dapper worked, edgy should, typically speaking
[05:28] <yccheok> shriphani_, but when i source it explicitly on bash_profile, it works.
[05:28] <sgorilla80> i think it has to do with python2.5
[05:28] <lastnode> meowpeow, options has 'show join/part messages' somewhere
[05:28] <NkZ> Guys, I have a huge problem
[05:28] <lesshaste> bulmer, not sure how you get the version number though
[05:28] <lastnode> !ask | NkZ
[05:28] <ubotu> NkZ: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:28] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_, its in this link...      http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[05:28] <unop> meowpeow,  right click channel, #channelname, show join/part messages
[05:28] <fredl> meowpeow, right click the channel tab and unselect 'Show Join/Parts'
[05:28] <cchance> lastnode, that wasnt the case last time i tried to upgrade to edgy
[05:28] <NkZ> Even since the last ubuntu update my PC is going nuts, even rebooting alone
[05:28] <lastnode> cchance, was it after edgy released, or pre-release?
[05:28] <bulmer> Phasor: liveCD was designed to be installed in the minimum computer environment settings, i doubt it if you can get the 3-D stuff working in liveCD
[05:28] <lesshaste> bulmer, its in dmesg
[05:28] <Phasor> Okay, thanks
[05:28] <ompaul> mark458, if you want to do something do this: click on System -> Administration -> Disks --- silly question have you actually installed Ubuntu -- if so where is the installed ubuntu in that printout ...
[05:28] <cchance> lastnode, im not sure but it was last year
[05:29] <lastnode> NkZ, have you tried 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' ?
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul, lol
[05:29] <NkZ> Been there, done that
[05:29] <unop> yccheok,  you might need to get ~/.bashrc to source ~/.bash_profile
[05:29] <lastnode> cchance, well, if it was before September, it was probably an alpha or beta. Edgy has been _released_, which means it's stable.
[05:29] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, chill I am much funnier that way ;-)
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> i get such a kick out of being n here...lol
[05:29] <bulmer> lesshaste  in that /ib/firmware/`uname -r`/  directory..here is where the drivers are normally put
[05:29] <lesshaste> bulmer, yes but they don't give me version number
[05:30] <Phasor> When I've successfully installed Ubuntu, do you think I would be able to run Beryl with a nVidia GeForce 6800 and 1GB of RAM? If so, would you recommend that I download the nVidia drivers as suggested in some Beryl installation walkthroughs or try it without first?
[05:30] <NkZ> I've tried to print a file like 3 times (Not to mention I hate HP for not making Linux Drivers) and the stupid PC hangs.
[05:30] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: lol
[05:30] <cchance> lastnode, ok if this dont work how can i get 6.06 back
[05:30] <meowpeow> unop and fredl, there are no such options here. are you sure you are not talking about regular xchat? i'm on Edgy btw.
[05:30] <lastnode> cchance, reformat and install
[05:30] <will_> Sorry it took so long but once I shutdown my dad had to flip the breaker to add another AC outlet.
[05:30] <NkZ> I mean, I am pissed of, ubuntu is not meant to act like an stupid WIN ME.
[05:30] <lastnode> meowpeow, is this gnome-xchat?
[05:30] <will_> Oh, no Compiz either. :(
[05:30] <unop> meowpeow,  xchat 2.6.6
[05:30] <lastnode> NkZ, discussion and opinion go in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:30] <bulmer> lesshaste  maybe you can try "nm libraryfilehere |grep version"   assuming you have the gcc nm tool
[05:30] <cchance> lastnode, you cant be serious, i got tooo much stuf on here, and not to mention the shared internet connection that took weeks to get setup
[05:30] <mark458> ompaul Ubuntu  is installed to a harddrive by is self. and the harddrive is mounted int he utility.
[05:30] <will_> NkZ, What do you mean?
[05:30] <meowpeow> lastnode, i'm using xchat-gnome
[05:31] <yccheok> unop, oh, i thought it suppose ~/.bash_profile source the /.bashrc
[05:31] <bulmer> lesshaste the library am referring to is the driver
[05:31] <will_> I'm using XChat.
[05:31] <lastnode> meowpeow, ew. it sucks. do yourself a favour and use the normal xchat.
[05:31] <NkZ> This is not opinion, This is meant that my ubuntu is hanging / freezing alone, which It never did before.
[05:31] <googol> Phasor, f
[05:31] <unop> yccheok,  actually bash is supposed to look for both those files and source them independantly
[05:31] <lastnode> cchance, well, upgrading a distro is a complicated process. with debian/ubuntu you can just apt-get dist-upgrade. of course, small things are bound to break.
[05:31] <googol> Phasor, follow the walkthough set by beryl
[05:31] <meowpeow> lastnode and the rest: ok thx :)
[05:31] <ompaul> mark458, so in that program I pointed you to you can see all the drives in the machine, you can "mount it there" and make it full time I will now send you a url with the full detailed and exact instructions to do that if you can't work out from the gui
[05:31] <lesshaste> bulmer, thx...the answer was in dmesg anyway
[05:31] <Phasor> Thanks googol
[05:31] <lastnode> NkZ, you're trolling about how much Ubuntu sucks. please take that to -offtopic, there are people who are tryign to get support here without complaining.
[05:32] <ompaul> !ntfs | mark458
[05:32] <NkZ> Which is really weird considering Linux stability. And I mean hanging while not running any application besides Firefox.
[05:32] <ubotu> mark458: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:32] <cchance> lastnode, not a chance im willing to take. Thanks for the info
[05:32] <lesshaste> bulmer, now I am trying to work out how to get it to hibernate :)
[05:32] <Phasor> I just didn't want my computer to go kaput again
[05:32] <unop> yccheok,  but on edgy and later, bash is not the default $SHELL, you know that right? it's dash or something like that :)
[05:32] <heathen> ok, im off for a bit, got to make lunch for the kids
[05:32] <bulmer> lesshaste good luck..
[05:32] <I-kido> Distro's don't but most Users SUCK !
[05:32] <googol> Phasor, good luck
[05:32] <lesshaste> bulmer, thx... did you get that working?
[05:32] <ompaul> !ubotu tell mark458 about ntfs
[05:32] <RockyMontana> Fuck, it's quite active in here, is this really IRC? ;)
[05:32] <unop> !language
[05:32] <NkZ> Node, please understand, I am not ranting, I am trying to know what the last update did to the system and how can I fix it, I have nothing against ubuntu.
[05:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:33] <will_> ! english language
[05:33] <Humza> I thought my windows sata hdd was ntfs. but fdisk says it's "SFS". how should I mount it? thanks.
[05:33] <Elrik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsAsus How do I change the name of lo to ra0?
[05:33] <lastnode> NkZ, have you tried apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[05:33] <lastnode> Elrik, lo is your loopback interface. ra0 will only be available if the driver and firmware are installed.
[05:33] <NkZ> As i told you, yes I did, there are not any new updates available
[05:33] <Slither> Hi guyz ! Anybody here from Greece?
[05:33] <NkZ> Also did autoremove.
[05:34] <lastnode> NkZ, then that's kind of weird. have you tried booting with acpi off?
[05:34] <NkZ> No, how can I do that?
[05:34] <Elrik> lastnode i installed the driver, what is firmware?
[05:34] <drewsus> hello people, I was wondering if I could get some help with some basic issues I seem to be having.
[05:34] <bauer77> is a swap file a requirement, or is there a better way to improve system performance??
[05:34] <lastnode> Slither, quite possibly! why dont you try #ubuntu-offtopic where we hang out and chat
[05:34] <bauer77> other than more memory of course
[05:34] <lastnode> NkZ, there isa  boot flag, on sec
[05:34] <zk> hi all...i've got a problem with my Ubuntu...i can't connect to the internet :| help someone :D...
[05:34] <lastnode> add it to /etc/grub/menu.lst
[05:34] <bauer77> I am running a P4 prescott with 1 gig of ram
[05:34] <NkZ> And yes, that's what I meant from the beginning, I know it's weird, that's why I came here.
[05:34] <unop> bauer77,  it's a requirement and it doesnt hinder performance
[05:34] <lastnode> in front of your 'boot' line
[05:34] <Elrik> drewsus just tell us the issues if you want answers
[05:35] <lastnode> add acpi=off, i think. im not very sure of the boot flag, sorry
[05:35] <bauer77> and it should typically be about 1.5 your memory such as in windows?
[05:35] <[ginge] > hi all I get an error when I run a ./configure command and I've been told that I need to install my kernel source. I checked my kernel version and it's 2.6.15-27-386 but when I ran synaptic the only kernel source in there is like 2.4.... which is a lot older than my current build. does anyone know how to get synaptic to get the latest kernel source?
[05:35] <lesshaste> how do you enable "suspend" for a laptop?
[05:35] <ompaul> !bootoptions | lastnode
[05:35] <ubotu> lastnode: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:35] <RockyMontana> Im thinking about installing Ubuntu on my Intel iMac, anyone knows about BootCamp vs Grub/Lilo?
[05:35] <RockyMontana> +anything
[05:35] <lastnode> !bootoptions | NkZ
[05:35] <ubotu> NkZ: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:35] <unop> bauer77,  thats a safe estimate -- it depends on how much you set the "swapiness" to in the kernel
[05:35] <Humza> hello. I thought my windows sata hdd was ntfs. but fdisk says it's "SFS". should I mount it as NTFS in ubuntu? thanks.
[05:36] <lastnode> Elrik, firmware is software for your card. you may need to install some manually
[05:36] <bauer77> unop what is the default swapiness?
[05:36] <unop> bauer77,  errm, 60% i think
[05:36] <NkZ> Also, is there any command / program that will check my memory or hd for problems?
[05:36] <mark458> ompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7373/
[05:36] <bauer77> thanks
[05:36] <unop> bauer77,  not 60%, 60 .. it's not a percentage of anything :)
[05:37] <lastnode> NkZ, rebooting for me was usually lloose / bad RAM. had a look at that?
[05:37] <_piso70> hola hay algun canal de ubuntu en castellano
[05:37] <mark458> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7373/
[05:37] <lastnode> !es | _piso70
[05:37] <ubotu> _piso70: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:37] <mark458> ompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7373/ what do I do?
[05:37] <bauer77> ok
[05:37] <mark458> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7373/ what do I do?
[05:37] <drewsus> thank you elrik. I have an amd64 3800+ processor and I have downloaded the amd64 installation CD. I boot from CD and see the menu where you can choose to install etc. When I click start/install it starts... but seconds later the progress bar stalls and stays there indefinitly. I tried the i386 version and this Ultimate 1.2 version as well. I dont know why it continually stalls...
[05:37] <NkZ> Yes I did, My sticks are good, I had this PC back from check up just 2 weeks ago.
[05:37] <ompaul> mark458, it appears you now need to do this "df -h" put it in a paste bin and also the contents of this "cat /etc/fstab" okay
[05:37] <RockyMontana> anyone?
[05:38] <_piso70> cracias agur
[05:38] <lastnode> RockyMontana, anyone what?
[05:38] <NkZ> But That's a fair argument, I will just shut it down and open it up to make sure.
[05:38] <lastnode> _piso70, no problem.
[05:38] <mark458> ompaul how?
[05:38] <mark458> ompaul,how?
[05:38] <zk> so...how can i connect to the internet on Ubuntu?...i've read the guide...the help...done what they say there but it still doesn't work:((
[05:38] <lastnode> NkZ, what did the updates pull in, mate?
[05:38] <ompaul> !repeat mark458
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat mark458 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <lastnode> (if you remember)
[05:38] <RockyMontana> lastnode: that knows about Intel Macs and Ubuntu?
[05:38] <ompaul> !repeat | mark458
[05:38] <bauer77> is Automatix down, I cant seem to access the site
[05:38] <ubotu> mark458: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:38] <ompaul> !automatix
[05:38] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:38] <NkZ> Hmmm I don't kind of remember, they were under "critical upgrades" notch
[05:38] <unop> mark458,  whats this in regard to? where are you seeing this information?
[05:38] <ompaul> bauer77, ^^ so ehh  we don't support it in any way here
[05:39] <bauer77> ompaul: thanks I can read :-)
[05:39] <lastnode> bauer77, easyubuntu is a good alternative, i hear
[05:39] <elekis> hi all
[05:39] <NkZ> Using noacpi has any.... side effects on the system?
[05:39] <lastnode> !easyubuntu | bauer77
[05:39] <ubotu> bauer77: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:39] <Znuff> Hello. I've got some troubles with Ubuntu, I've enabled ip_forward = 1 (sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward), but I can't get machines from inside the network to ping anything outside. It only works if I enable masquerade. Any clues on what is causing this?
[05:39] <bauer77> thanks lastnode
[05:39] <lastnode> hi elekis
[05:39] <RockyMontana> lastnode: with BootCamp and such things, and if it's any point of running it (which is a fairly stupid question in here)
[05:39] <mark458> unop I cant access my backup drive.
[05:39] <lastnode> RockyMontana, im sure Ubuntu is runnable via any modern boot manager
[05:40] <elekis> I have no idea but  telnet doesn't work
[05:40] <unop> mark458,  answer the question please :)
[05:40] <elekis> I try to listen a port  but I always
[05:40] <NkZ> Is there any way to find out what I last updated?
[05:40] <Viroo> hi
[05:40] <elekis> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[05:40] <elekis> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[05:40] <lastnode> elekis, you are trying to connect to yourself?
[05:40] <krantix> which is the best way to access read/write my ext3 partitions under windows XP ???? thanks!
[05:40] <elekis> yep
[05:40] <mark458> unop what question?
[05:40] <ompaul> mark458, do this: applications accessories terminal and in there type "df -h" and "cat /etc/fstab" AND stop jumpping from one person to another you will get nowhere as you have to start all over again
[05:40] <RockyMontana> elekis: try and use ssh instead?
[05:40] <unop> mark458,  whats this in regard to? where are you seeing this information?
[05:41] <lastnode> elekis, have you got telnetd setup?
[05:41] <elekis> I haven't telnetd
[05:41] <unop> mark458,  after doing what precisely were you shown this?
[05:41] <lastnode> krantix, there is software for that. sec
[05:41] <DJ_Gentoo> gaaah!
[05:41] <Viroo> does ubuntu have a similar utilities like redhat has.. such as : service cups start, or like redhad-config-samba .. which is logical for the admin
[05:41] <drewsus> so anyone know why my ubuntu install is continually stalling after I select the "start or install ubunto" option when booting from CD?
[05:41] <DJ_Gentoo> major problem!
[05:41] <DJ_Gentoo> my mouse disappeared
[05:41] <nowhere> I am trying to switch to ubuntu and think I almost got the wireless network working, but maybe a DNS problem. I'm following a howto from the forum (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241565). It needs DNS nameservers but also a search, I have no idea what that search could be and it's not really described.. Can't find it, not at my provider, not with google.. Any idea's??
[05:41] <RockyMontana> ah, whatever, thanks lastnode, peace
[05:41] <DJ_Gentoo> this isn't the first time this has happened
[05:41] <elekis> may be it's that, I ll install
[05:42] <DJ_Gentoo> advice?
[05:42] <lastnode> krantix, http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[05:42] <surekha> Can someone help me with my sound card! The soundcard is nVidia and I am not able to record any sound
[05:42] <Viroo> does ubuntu have a similar utilities like redhat has.. such as : service cups start, or like redhad-config-samba .. which is logical for the admin
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Viroo,  the 'service' command from what ive seen just saves typing   ' sudo /etc/init.d/servicename restart'  is the ubuntu way
[05:42] <lastnode> surekha, does lspci show it?
[05:42] <unop> Viroo,  the sysvconfig has the service command
[05:42] <NkZ> Maybe It's a acpi implementation Issue? I have no idea, kinds newb at this.
[05:42] <unop> !sysvconfig  | Viroo
[05:42] <ubotu> viroo: sysvconfig: A text menu based utility for configuring init script links. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 144 kB
[05:42] <ompaul> lastnode: for future (!dualboot) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:42] <mark458> ompaul ok now what>?
[05:42] <Viroo> i know dr-willis, thats why i said more logical
[05:42] <lastnode> ompaul, cool, thanks.
[05:43] <krantix> lastnode thanks! i tryed http://www.fs-driver.org/ but had some problems....
[05:43] <surekha> lastnode: 0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[05:43] <ompaul> mark458, put it in a pastebin (like you have been doing) and then I can read them
[05:43] <lastnode> surekha, do a 'lspci' in a console. what doe sit show?
[05:43] <Viroo> with ubuntu's upstart i dont think sysvconfig will work
[05:43] <lastnode> surekha, hmmm, and when you go to sound settings, what does it say?
[05:43] <surekha> lastnode: it shows a whole bunch of stuff....0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[05:43] <unop> Viroo,  gnome also has the services-admin (a very basic GUI thing)
[05:43] <surekha> lastnode: where are the sound settings?
[05:43] <elekis> I ve just installed telnetd but That change nothing
[05:43] <mark458> ompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7374/
[05:43] <smoggyCityG> hi, how to disable a laptop from suspending when the lid closes?  my bios contains no settings.  it's crashing on suspend.
[05:44] <lastnode> !sound | surekha
[05:44] <ubotu> surekha: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:44] <Viroo> yes gnome does, but it is graphical...
[05:44] <DJ_Gentoo> my mouse has stopped working. any advice? it's a Synaptics touchpad
[05:44] <unop> Viroo,  the service command works with init's script .. not init itself .. just like on redhat
[05:44] <Viroo> !upstart
[05:44] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:44] <nowhere> Any idea's on my question?
[05:44] <unop> Viroo,  i wouldnt be surprised if this is the same /sbin/service command used on redhat too
[05:44] <elekis> may be with ssh but how listen a port with ssh??
[05:44] <drewsus> thank you elrik. I have an amd64 3800+ processor and I have downloaded the amd64 installation CD. I boot from CD and see the menu where you can choose to install etc. When I click start/install it starts... but seconds later the progress bar stalls and stays there indefinitly. I tried the i386 version and this Ultimate 1.2 version as well. I dont know why it continually stalls...
[05:45] <Phasor> May I suggest that the Ubuntu website recommends a different CD burning tool (i.e. not Infra Recorder)? No matter what I tried, I could not get it to burn the Ubuntu 6.10 ISO file any slower than 4x and had to resort to CDBurnerXP Pro 3 (another free program, although not open source) in order to get it to burn at 2x,
[05:45] <lastnode> !sshd | elekis
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <lastnode> !ssh | elekis
[05:45] <ubotu> elekis: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:45] <DJ_Gentoo> any advice? this is urgent; my mouse has stopped working, on a Synaptics touchpad
[05:45] <lastnode> elekis, you need to setup a ssh daemon to listen to ssh
[05:45] <lastnode> {Nathan}, please turn off away messages.
[05:45] <Viroo> everything is sjust there.. but the packing of commands in one unified predictable and logical way is what makes the life of a user much easier
[05:46] <lastnode> {Nathan}, it just clutters the channel and annoys people.
[05:46] <nowhere> lastnode: I think he is away :(
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> DJ_Gentoo, does it hook up to PS2 or USB?
[05:46] <DJ_Gentoo> no
[05:46] <lastnode> nowhere, for when he gets back
[05:46] <elekis> I tried that
[05:46] <loz> hi, anybody know how to install a ubuntu from windows, as my bios is cooked, and i can't boot fro cd, anyone?
[05:46] <elekis> ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection refused
[05:46] <DJ_Gentoo> it's integrated
[05:46] <elekis> but I ve always that
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok, laptop, duh
[05:46] <DJ_Gentoo> into my laptop
[05:46] <lastnode> elekis, is sshd installe and running?
[05:46] <Phasor> loz: Have you checked your BIOS settings?
[05:46] <drewsus> thank you elrik. I have an amd64 3800+ processor and I have downloaded the amd64 installation CD. I boot from CD and see the menu where you can choose to install etc. When I click start/install it starts... but seconds later the progress bar stalls and stays there indefinitly. I tried the i386 version and this Ultimate 1.2 version as well. I dont know why it continually stalls...
[05:46] <mark458> ompaul u there?
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> DJ_Gentoo, sorry, can't think of anything offhand
[05:46] <lastnode> loz, there is a feature like that planned for feisty
[05:46] <DJ_Gentoo> dern
[05:46] <nowhere> lastnode, sure he will. Do you have any idea about my question? About a DNS Search setting? Or something?
[05:47] <DJ_Gentoo> maybe if I restart X...
[05:47] <krantix> lastnode... is it safe to load the drive from the XP Vmware virtual machine and access actually mounted ext3 with data (no filesystem) ? thanks
[05:47] <lastnode> nowhere, please rephrase it
[05:47] <unop> nowhere,  whats the matter?
[05:47] <DJ_Gentoo> be back later... hopefully.... been ful
[05:47] <drewsus> can anyone help me? I really want to get ubunto installed so I can do away with Windows XP
[05:47] <loz> Phazor: as soon as i go to advanced features, my bios freezes
[05:47] <flumoxed> Hello. (sys: xubuntu:feisty) I have installed nvidia legacy binaries, rebooted, no kernel option... boot existing, nvidia; no change.. ;\  What gives? anyone..
[05:47] <lastnode> krantix, the ext3s are inside vmware?
[05:47] <ompaul> mark458, yes
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, so install it
[05:47] <elekis> I thing sshd is installed but like telnetd I don't know where is it
[05:47] <DJ_Gentoo> *been fun
[05:47] <nowhere> I am trying to switch to ubuntu and think I almost got the wireless network working, but maybe a DNS problem. I'm following a howto from the forum (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241565). It needs DNS nameservers but also a search, I have no idea what that search could be and it's not really described.. Can't find it, not at my provider, not with google.. Any idea's??
[05:47] <Phasor> loz: Have you tried flashing your BIOS and installing a newly downloaded one?
[05:47] <nowhere> sorry little long, but tried to make it complete
[05:47] <lastnode> !feisty | flumoxed
[05:47] <drewsus> indyfreak, read my problem/question please
[05:47] <ubotu> flumoxed: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:48] <elekis> bash: telnetd : commande introuvable
[05:48] <unop> nowhere,  what is that howto asking you to do exactly?
[05:48] <krantix> lastnode, not.... vmware runs on a physical partition where i have xp installed....
[05:48] <elekis> that's mean telnetd not found
[05:48] <drewsus> indygunfreak, please read my problem
[05:48] <drewsus> thank you elrik. I have an amd64 3800+ processor and I have downloaded the amd64 installation CD. I boot from CD and see the menu where you can choose to install etc. When I click start/install it starts... but seconds later the progress bar stalls and stays there indefinitly. I tried the i386 version and this Ultimate 1.2 version as well. I dont know why it continually stalls...
[05:48] <elekis> and it's the same thing for sshd
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> where's your problem?
[05:48] <flumoxed> ubotu, Fine, but how do i install nvidia now?
[05:48] <lastnode> elekis, apt-cache search sshd
[05:48] <loz> Phazor: i to much of a nube for that, any tuto's you could recomend?
[05:48] <ompaul> mark458, your partition is mounted
[05:48] <drewsus> I just reposted it
[05:48] <Phasor> loz: What type of motherboard have you got?
[05:48] <lastnode> drewsus, please dont repeat.
[05:48] <elekis> openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[05:48] <lastnode> drewsus, dont!
[05:49] <drewsus> he asked me my problem lastnode
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, first, i'd stick with the 386 version
[05:49] <grazie> !install  | loz
[05:49] <lastnode> !patience
[05:49] <ubotu> loz: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:49] <elekis> is it that
[05:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:49] <mark458> ompaul i know but why cant I access the files in it?
[05:49] <lastnode> drewsus, you reposted like five times in the last few minutes. if you're going to do that, please use a pastebin and link people.
[05:49] <drewsus> indygunfreak, the 386 version stalls just the same :( (and sorry lastnode, dont get angry)
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, first, stick with 386, second, i'd try to burn the file to CD again, and burn it at a slow rate, 2-4x, no faster
[05:49] <lastnode> elekis, yes openssh-server
[05:49] <drewsus> sure thing lastnode
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, i heard you say that
[05:50] <lastnode> drewsus, im not angry, mate. just fyi
[05:50] <krantix> lastnode... maybe a better idea would be to have a network share between VmWare XP and Ubuntu?
[05:50] <elekis> thanks , no sshd is installed
[05:50] <loz> Phazor: how can i see what mother board i have, do have to open it up? i ve got a crappy windows on it, but need to get rid asap, i tried downloading colinux, but to no avail
[05:50] <lnx^> hoi
[05:50] <lastnode> krantix, let me get this straight. you want to copy files from inside vm to outside vm. ext3 -> xp
[05:50] <drewsus> so no one has any idea why its stalling eh... that really sucks. I was excited to use Ubuntu
[05:50] <lnx^> is there any simple way to limit bandwidth in ubuntu?
[05:50] <elekis> I ve just tape sshd
[05:50] <lastnode> ?
[05:50] <lnx^> like a network traffic shaper or such
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus,  i just told you a possibility
[05:50] <mark458> ompaul when I goto properties of the drive it tells me Im not the owner so I cant make changes to the drive.
[05:50] <elekis> supposing it's like that we lauch that
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> how fast did you burn it?
[05:50] <lastnode> lnx^, as in, on your box alone, or on a network?
[05:51] <drewsus> oh must have missed it
[05:51] <unop> lnx^,  ubuntu is linux, there are many howtos for traffic shaping on linux .. use one of them
[05:51] <lnx^> lastnode: only my box
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, how fast were you burning the CD?.. what speed
[05:51] <krantix> lastnode  i have sometimes to work on some files inside my VMware machine (XP, running from a physical partition, not on a virtual disk)
[05:51] <ompaul> mark458, okay let use explain something here
[05:51] <lastnode> elekis, you need to read up on ssh/telnet before you run a daemon on your own box. remember, running a server is letting people connect to it
[05:51] <loz> Phazor: how can i see what mother board i have, do have to open it up? i ve got a crappy windows on it, but need to get rid asap, i tried downloading colinux, but to no avail
[05:51] <drewsus> oaky ill try that. that you very much indygunfreak
[05:51] <lnx^> unop: yeah i know how to do that, but i'd prefer some easy tool if one exists
[05:51] <lastnode> krantix, then ext3 should be fine, i reckon
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul, i jus want to say, i think you deserve the Most Patient Linux helper of the year award..lol
[05:51] <ompaul> mark458, (A) you have mounted it (B) you may not own it (C) it may not be advisable to try to write to it yet
[05:51] <drewsus> yeah it was burnt at 48x
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, also... i'd stick with 386
[05:51] <lnx^> e.g. something in the style of windows's netlimiter
[05:51] <ompaul> mark458, have you installed fuse?
[05:52] <lastnode> lnx^, id install squid locally, route data through that, and then filter according to usage
[05:52] <gurka> Hmm, should a ask question about ubuntu here or somewhere else?
[05:52] <lastnode> !ask
[05:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:52] <lastnode> gurka, here
[05:52] <sukh> hi
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, slow it down to around 4x, it will take a while, but it will help, and stick with i386, support for the 64bit distros is very hit and miss right now.
[05:52] <elekis> so when I finish I have to stop sshd?
[05:52] <lastnode> !ssh | elekis
[05:52] <ubotu> elekis: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:52] <krantix> lastnode what would you suggest to access those files inside windows Xp? because the drive would be actually loaded both inside ubuntu (ext3) and then loaded with that special tool inside Xp... could that cause problems?
[05:52] <mark458> ompaul how do I install that?
[05:52] <ompaul> !fuse | mark458
[05:52] <ubotu> mark458: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, you'll spend more time trying to get 32bit apps to work on your 64bit distro, so just stick with 32bit
[05:53] <lastnode> elekis, please go read those docs fully before asking again. im not going to type them out here again in the channel
[05:53] <drewsus> now, the thing is this too... the very first time I tried to install (using 386 version) it all went fine up until it decided to try and partition my HDD. it stalled there. then, after that, it stalled from  the beginning every time
[05:53] <ompaul> mark458, before you do umount /dev/sda1
[05:53] <sukh> How can i connect my xp box to my linux laptop using a cross over cable? My linux laptop should act as agateway to the web
[05:53] <lastnode> krantix, you've just managed to confuse me. sorry. :(
[05:53] <guiden> !dc
[05:53] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[05:53] <drewsus> okay thats good advice
[05:53] <guiden> !direct connect
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct connect - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <ompaul> !lastlog krantix
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lastlog krantix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <gurka> Ok. Hmm, My the internet connection on Ubuntu is really weird. The DNS i much much slower then on Windows XP. And its the same DNS. Why is that ? =S
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, like i said, i'd just start over with a new burn, and burn it slow.
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> and burn the 386 version
[05:53] <guiden> Is there any good dc clients for ubuntu?
[05:53] <Pici> !ipv6 | gurka
[05:53] <ubotu> gurka: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:53] <lnx^> lastnode: thanks, that might do. so there are no simple tools like NetLimiter for linux? that'd surely be the simplest solution if one existed
[05:54] <Phasor> loz: Try downloading either AIDA32 from http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.html or SIW from http://www3.sympactico.ca/gtopala/siw_download.html
[05:54] <gurka> Pici, Thanks :)
[05:54] <Pici> gurka: That should fix your issue
[05:54] <drewsus> okay, thank you very much indygunfreak!
[05:54] <lastnode> lnx^, you can try firestarter
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> drewsus, one other thing
[05:54] <mark458> ompaul how do I install fuse?
[05:54] <lastnode> !firestarter | lnx^
[05:54] <ubotu> lnx^: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:54] <sukh> How can i connect my xp box to my linux laptop using a cross over cable? My linux laptop should act as agateway to the web
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> if you continue to have a problem, try downloading the 386 alternate install CD... that works on some PC's that have trouble with the standard install(i'v ehad to use it before myself)
[05:55] <flumoxed> nvidia
[05:55] <ompaul> mark458  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse   <-- how to install fuse before you do as I said do umount /dev/sda1
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> St. Peter, St Paul, St. ompaul
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:55] <krantix> lastnode: i run ubuntu and have on dev/hda2 all my data... sometimes i have to boot windows xp inside vmware (it starts from a physical disk partition inside Vmware) and access those files to work with them inside XP... which is the best way to access ext3 inside a virtual XP?
[05:56] <sukh> How can i connect my xp box to my linux laptop using a cross over cable? My linux laptop should act as a gateway to the web?
[05:56] <lastnode> krantix, the XP file system is not inside a .vmware file?
[05:56] <lastnode> sukh, please dont repeat.
[05:56] <lastnode> !patience | sukh
[05:56] <ubotu> sukh: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:56] <sukh> sorry
[05:56] <loz> Phazor: are you sure about those links?
[05:56] <Phasor> loz: Pretty sure, why?
[05:56] <Zero9983> how to check my harddisk had bad sector or no ?
[05:56] <krantix> lastnode, no. it's my old XP system loaded with a special hardware profile directly from a NTFS partition /dev/hda5
[05:57] <lastnode> Zero9983, gparted? apt-cache search gparted
[05:57] <loz> Phasor: one does not work, and the other is weird, about small buisness etc?
[05:57] <lastnode> krantix, you want to access XP from linux or vice versa
[05:57] <Zero9983> ok thanks lastnode
[05:57] <Phasor> loz: Okay, let me have another look
[05:57] <loz> Phasor: or am i being dumb?
[05:57] <krantix> lastnode i would like to access linux ext3 partitions from inside the virtual XP...
[05:57] <ompaul> Zero9983, so you can use "badblocks" but frankly the o/s will report errors
[05:57] <mark458> ompaul ok Ive done that now what?
[05:57] <ardchoille> loz: That's quite a loaded question
[05:58] <lastnode> krantix, well, doesnt the virtual XP see its partiton as the "entire" disk? could it see other parts, even with explore2fs?
[05:58] <Zero9983> ompaul: how to use badblocks ? i new to linux
[05:58] <Hiram> krantix: you should stick with shared folders in vmware or use samba and otherwise try an obscure ext driver for windows
[05:58] <nowhere> unop: It's for the resolv.conf file, there is a description: "Your search will be different. You can aquire this info from your ISP if you do not know it.".
[05:58] <helter> can somebody tell me how I can choose the default locale? Before dapper you would use dpkg-reconfigure and you would get a screen asking you to choose the default locale for the system. Not anymore. dpkg-reconfigure just generates the locales, it doesn't ask you to choose the default locale for the system. :-(
[05:59] <loz> ardchiolle: i really must be, cos i don't understand that too...
[05:59] <Phasor> loz: Go to http://www.majorgeeks.com/download181.html and click on the MajorGeeks EU link. You should then start to download a ZIP file.
[05:59] <lastnode> !locales | helter
[05:59] <ubotu> helter: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:59] <krantix> lastnode my XP can see ext3 files but i wonder if that is risky... the drive is at the same time mounted in ubuntu...
[05:59] <helter> thanks lastnode
[05:59] <krantix> Hiram, does shared folders works under linux?
[05:59] <Hiram> yes
[05:59] <unop> nowhere,  you dont need a search directive for a home network .. so you can safely ignore it :)
[05:59] <ompaul> mark458, if you have followed the instructions on that page then you should be ready to rumble - use the graphical tool, "Places ->  home"  and navigate to it
[05:59] <lastnode> krantix, copying should be ok, i reckon, just dont modify. but then again, backiup, backup, backup
[05:59] <loz> Phasor: is this for flashing the Motherboard?
[06:00] <sukh> can someone point me in the direction for my solution?
[06:00] <Phasor> loz: No, just for determining which motherboard you have
[06:00] <will_> I can't get Kaffiene to play DVDs.
[06:00] <mark458> ompaul nope theres still a red X on the drive.
[06:00] <krantix> lastnode, i think i will create a networks share... sounds more secure....
[06:00] <rbil> krantix: you will not be able to read ext3 drives from within a vm, because it's running in a separate machine. what you need to do is install samba in your Ubuntu host system and then share directories you want to access from your Windoze vm
[06:00] <lastnode> krantix, sure, good luck
[06:00] <Hiram> lastnode: i think it is to dangerous, and the other options  like shared folders and samba are prob fine
[06:00] <kelsin> sukh: look into the Firestarter program, it can do internet connection sharing with one slick, and dhcp if you need that
[06:00] <nowhere> unop: Ok I'm going to fill in the DNS servers from my provider instead of the suggested ones, maybe that will work. It's the same computer so I have to switch. Hope it's fixed by now :) Thanks!
[06:01] <ompaul> Zero9983,  it is all looked after when you boot up so I would not be worried about them - just run this command line and the machine will check itself "sudo shutdown -F now" and then it will turn off when you turn it on it will check
[06:01] <kelsin> sukh: it's just a frontend for for normal firewall in the kernel
[06:01] <krantix> lastnode thanks for your help! i will follow rbil suggestions......
[06:01] <unop> nowhere,  ok :)
[06:01] <Hiram> rbil: the easyer option is to use shared folders
[06:01] <will_> What should I use to play DVDs?
[06:01] <lastnode> krantix, sure, go for it.
[06:01] <lastnode> will_, xine-ui is a nice program.
[06:01] <sukh> kelsin do I just do an apt-get install firestarter?
[06:01] <Phasor> loz: Actually, it looks like I have found a better guide than me about flashing the BIOS, look at http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/biosflash1.html
[06:01] <kane77> ubuntu started acting weirdly... it deletes my dns servers i have in network configuration. when I enter the dns's it switches from ra0 to eth0 which is wrong (I use ra0 for internet) plus all of this takes _VERY_ long... and when I restart (turn off and on) its again the same (no dns) what can I do??
[06:01] <kelsin> will_: mplayer can play them with menus, xine and totem-xine
[06:01] <will_> None of those can play it.
[06:01] <kelsin> sukh: yeah, if you need more help installing programs there is plenty on the ubuntu wiki
[06:01] <rbil> Hiram: how does he get at shared folders on the linux side from the vm, if he isn't running samba on linux?
[06:01] <Phasor> loz: I have to go now anyway. Sorry
[06:01] <will_> They just screwup and shut down.
[06:02] <kelsin> will_: sorry I meant mplayer without* menus, xine and totem-xine with
[06:02] <loz> Phasor: Thanks for the help
[06:02] <sukh> kelsin: ok I'll give it a go thanks!
[06:02] <ompaul> mark458, okay so in the terminal if you type "sudo chown mark:mark /media/sda1" and give it a few mins you will own it - but ehhh be aware that fuse is beta
[06:02] <kelsin> will_: you need to get the proper stuff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:02] <Hiram> rbil: well he can put something in the folder designated as shared.. and acces that from windows
[06:03] <aSt3raL_> how come everytime i download updates X quits working until i rebuild the nvidia driver
[06:03] <aSt3raL_> ?
[06:03] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, may I msg you
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul, sure..
[06:03] <lesshaste> do I have to add plf to sources.list to get realplayer?
[06:03] <ompaul> aSt3raL_, cos Nvidia is an unsupported binary blob and they don't work nicely with your GNU/linux system
[06:04] <Mattias> aSt3raL_: maybe X overwrites xorg.conf file and removes the nvidia driver from there
[06:05] <b0rt> hi there
[06:05] <thingfish> I think it's always been that way, with most distros.
[06:05] <hob> Hi: Just a short question: Can I upgrade to the Edgy Eft from the Breezy Badger, directly?
[06:05] <b0rt> could some1 tell me where to change "character encoding" to unicode?
[06:05] <aSt3raL_> Mattias: its not just the xorg.conf file ive tried saving and replacing just that file.  it seems to be the actual nvidia drivers are being overwritten by some package
[06:05] <mjr> b0rt, ubuntu uses unicode (utf-8) as default
[06:05] <Steve^> Hey, how can I mount my partition/mount my second harddrive?
[06:05] <rbil> hob: short answer ... no
[06:05] <mark458> ompaul as it doesnt mess up my files
[06:06] <b0rt> mjr it seems that wester encoding is enabled
[06:06] <Mattias> aSt3raL_: only thing i can think of would overwrite it is recompiling the kernel :/
[06:06] <Steve^> Hey, how can partition/mount my second harddrive?
[06:06] <kelsin> the nvidia drivers conpile against your current kernel and X, when you upgrade one or both, version numbers mismatch and they won't load to prvent problems
[06:06] <b0rt> western*
[06:06] <kelsin> since using the nvidia packages from ubuntu or debian I havn't had a problem since they update for me
[06:06] <b0rt> konversation doesnt display some characters well
[06:06] <hob> rbil: So I have to upgrade to Dapper and then to the Eft?
[06:06] <b0rt> mjr any clue?
[06:06] <rbil> hob: correct
[06:06] <aSt3raL_> so if the update installs a new kernel image i am going to have to recompile the nvidia drivers?
[06:07] <ardchoille> aSt3raL_: Not if you installed them from the repos
[06:08] <ompaul> ardchoille, you know what I think about them there blobbies :)
[06:08] <aSt3raL_> ardchoille: yeah i did from the repos and have the problem almost everytime
[06:08] <ardchoille> ompaul: Not a good idea?
[06:08] <Costel> i've got an error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[06:08] <Costel> the sound is muted
[06:09] <b0rt> mjr:  where can i change char encoding?
[06:09] <b0rt> maybe i can try another unicode or iso
[06:09] <ompaul> ardchoille, well I did not become a gnewsense for nothing :)
[06:09] <sukh> kelsin: I cant get firestarter... broken packages... what do I do next?
[06:10] <finalbeta> Any partition recovery software for linux? Last boot my second HD seems to have lost it's extended partitions into one unknown file system.
[06:10] <hob> damn  :(  ... thank you anyway
[06:10] <ardchoille> ompaul: You're not a ni=uisance. I put nuisances on /ignore
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille, i agree
[06:11] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: ??
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille, that ompaul isn't a nuicance
[06:11] <sukh> what do i do if apt-get install firestarter fails? Im a linux newbie!
[06:11] <ardchoille> :)
[06:11] <hob> will it be possible to upgrade from the drake to fawn directly?
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> !upgrade
[06:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:12] <lastnode> hob, of course
[06:12] <Costel> !repository
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:12] <lastnode> hob, ohw ait, no
[06:12] <lastnode> hob, from ddapper -> edgy -> fawn
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> i never upgade, just backup and do clean installs
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> works better
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> i don't think i've ever upgraded an OS, Windows or Linux, always did new installs.
[06:13] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: the update from Edgy to Feisty was easier then the Dapper to Edgy one.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta, like i said, i wouldn't know.
[06:13] <DaveTarmac> good afternoon, i was wondering if anyone had a spare moment to help a newbie along, or direct me to the correct place to ask my question concerning installing packages on Dapper Drake
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> brb all.
[06:13] <finalbeta> If you never did it, why do you say it works better?
[06:13] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Me too. Fresh installs provide a clean system.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille, yep
[06:13] <transgress_> i always try an upgrade first
[06:13] <ompaul> UPGRADES are done from ubuntu version N to ubuntu version N+1, not from ubuntu version N +random other stuff to Ubuntu version +1 that latter one breaks in new and interesting way
[06:13] <ompaul> s
[06:14] <transgress_> that way i can report bugs and whatnot... if it fails too much then i do a fresh install afterwards
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> FINALLY, I'M BACK ON LINUX!!!
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> windows was starting to hurt my eyes
[06:15] <DaveTarmac> basically I have a command to check whether my wireless card (d-link dwl-g520 rev a1) is installed and working, and it says that the device package is not installed. the problem i have is how to actually locate and install the package to get it working
[06:15] <gumpish_> Hi - I can connect to a VNC display I'm running, but it ignores all mouse and keyboard input. I'm using vncviewer.
[06:16] <Steve^> I just formatted my second HDD to ext3.. how do I mount it?
[06:16] <lesshaste> I installed realplay from the canonical repo.. how do I get the firefox plugin?
[06:16] <mykhul> what kinds of p2p programs are there for gnome?
[06:16] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, welcome back, please do not stay from the path, you will get all sorts of contamination on your PC :)
[06:16] <Lynx-> Can I use "sudo passwd --lock root" to make the root acoount the same as it was when Ubuntu was just installed?
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: didn't have a choice.. i broke my ankle and couldn't get to my PC...lol
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> my brother just ran an ethernet cable from my router in the basement, to my recliner, and i'm on my laptop now..lol
[06:17] <ompaul> Lynx-, or "sudo passwd -l root" :)
[06:17] <Lynx-> that's the same
[06:17] <Lynx-> Can I?
[06:17] <Lynx-> :)
[06:18] <ompaul> Lynx-, it is four characters shorter
[06:18] <le_quasar> hello all - I know this might not be the best place to ask this question, but does anybody know why the automatix site is refusing connectins?
[06:18] <Costel> Lynx-:just make an user
[06:18] <Costel> and add it to the admin group
[06:18] <ompaul> !automatix
[06:18] <ardchoille> le_quasar: You were right.
[06:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:19] <Costel> adduser YOURUSERNAME
[06:19] <Costel> adduser YUORUSERNAME admin
[06:19] <Costel> that should do it
[06:19] <davidgw7> has any one tryed sear ?
[06:20] <davidgw7> what whould be the best channle to ask about games
[06:20] <Costel> where can i download automatix?
[06:20] <le_quasar> yeah, I know you guys don like automatix. Its never caused me or anyone I know any problems, but I guess your exeprience may vary
[06:20] <ompaul> !automatix | Costel
[06:20] <ubotu> Costel: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:20] <steep> ciao
[06:20] <ompaul> it is offtopic for here
[06:20] <warlock> Does anyone know how to enable so apache supports swedish letters () ?
[06:20] <Costel> i have an automatix script i made
[06:20] <Costel> for myself
[06:20] <ompaul> warlock, go to #ubuntu-se they can tell you
[06:21] <le_quasar> is this ubotu a bot?
[06:21] <Costel> yes
[06:21] <le_quasar> ah
[06:21] <le_quasar> sounded like one - man, what a feud! Seems a little bit dumb.
[06:22] <kane77> ubuntu started acting weirdly... it deletes my dns servers i have in network configuration. when I enter the dns's it switches from ra0 to eth0 which is wrong (I use ra0 for internet) plus all of this takes _VERY_ long... and when I restart (turn off and on) its again the same (no dns) what can I do??
[06:22] <aib> does anyone have a KVM switch? mine is older, made by ATEN (model CS-12), and I can't find the manual. I keep pressing some key sequence that causes it to switch. I'm completely flustered!
[06:22] <le_quasar> so - nobody here knows if the autom@tiX sit is under a DDoS attack or why the heck it's refusing connections?
[06:23] <le_quasar> *site
[06:23] <ardchoille> le_quasar: This is not the place to discuss automatix
[06:23] <lastnode> le_quasar, mate, can you not read?
[06:23] <lastnode> !automatix | le_quasar
[06:23] <ompaul> le_quasar, we really don't care, and you are offtopic
[06:23] <ubotu> le_quasar: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:23] <lastnode> "We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use."
[06:24] <le_quasar> jesus christ, you guys are so full of yourselves, and of incredibly massive piles of shit. GO fuck yuourselves
[06:24] <ardchoille> !ops
[06:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:24] <lesshaste> how do I set up sleep mode for a laptop?
[06:24] <lesshaste> I have acpid installed but I don't have a clue where to start
[06:24] <lastnode> i think he liked us :-)
[06:24] <ardchoille> lastnode: hehe
[06:24] <lastnode> ardchoille, dont do an ops call when there is clearly an op around, eh? ;-)
[06:25] <ompaul> lastnode, it had that kind of feel about it
[06:25] <aib> my question is off-topic also, but where else can I find 1030 computer nerds, many of which are likely to have KVM switches? :)
[06:25] <crimsun> d'oh!
[06:25] <starly> does anybody know what i should give ~ per chmod?
[06:25] <ardchoille> lastnode: Are you an op?
[06:25] <ompaul> ardchoille, in particular if it is that subject and I am here :)
[06:25] <mykhul> what kinds of p2p programs are there for gnome?
[06:25] <lastnode> ompaul, some day you gotta let me do one of those. years of aggro will escape, i tell ya ;-)
[06:25] <lastnode> ardchoille, hardly. ompaul is though
[06:25] <ompaul> crimsun, :)
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> I love beryl
[06:26] <ardchoille> lastnode: When you become an op, let me know.
[06:26] <lastnode> ardchoille, ? all i said was, ompaul was around, and calling ops is like crying wolf. do it too many times and nobody will answer.
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: don't get in a catfight..lol
[06:27] <ardchoille> Well, sorry, I can't tell whether ompaul was looking at his screen.
[06:27] <ik-ppc> 1029 :O
[06:27] <starly> what permissions should a home-directory have? (which permissions does your ~ have?)
[06:28] <lastnode> ardchoille, there's no need to get angsty. it's just beneficial to wait a while before calling ops. we hve a lot of them, and usually _someone_ is around. remember, ops pings everyone in sight.
[06:28] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Catfight? Nah, just /ignore, lol
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: i was just teasing you.. i'm still spinning beryl around for a while.
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:28] <davidgw7> so whats the general opinion on beryl
[06:28] <ardchoille> I saw beryl in action the other day. Nice.
[06:29] <lesshaste> how do I set up sleep mode for a laptop?
[06:29] <lesshaste> I have acpid installed but I don't have a clue where to start
[06:29] <Costel> beryl is an inovation that doesn't works on my box
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> i love beryl
[06:29] <lastnode> #ubuntu-offtopic is a great place for discussion like this. :-)
[06:29] <ardchoille> I'll have to install it when I get Feisty
[06:29] <ardchoille> Wait, is beryl going to be shipped in Feisty?
[06:29] <dafan> I KILLED over 6 million noobs in the lollercaust and all I got was this >.>
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: i heard somewhere beryl support wasn't gonna be included with feisty, but i have a hard time believing that
[06:29] <davidgw7> i have it running and it is indeed wow
[06:29] <geronimo__> how run a winXP program with a amd64 ? :/
[06:30] <NkZ> lastnode: I checked the memory, It's not it, Also ran the memtest thing at the boot.
[06:30] <davidgw7> the reason i asked was i had read that 7.4 was coming stock with it
[06:30] <Costel> who knows what package stands for "volume control"?
[06:30] <NkZ> lastnode: Could you please point me again to that file speaking about booting options?
[06:30] <lastnode> NkZ, hmm, that's really weird.
[06:30] <lastnode> !bootoptions | NkZ
[06:30] <ubotu> NkZ: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:31] <NkZ> lastnode: Thanks! What kind of programs do integrate the acpi? Any idea?
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille:    http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[06:31] <lastnode> NkZ, ACPI stands for Advanced Configuration & Power Interface, do the math ;)
[06:31] <davidgw7> thats a very good howto
[06:32] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Well, that kinda says it won't be shipped with Feisty :(
[06:32] <gop> !screencast
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: this is true.
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screencast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <NkZ> lastnode Weird stuff. I thought it might be beryl messing up, but since you I do the math I think it's not it.
[06:32] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Thanks for the link, though.. bookmarked it.
[06:32] <gop> what a good screencast program for ubuntu
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> yup, its a good one
[06:32] <starly> is anybody out there with a linux box and the little time do do a "ls -l ~" and saying me, what the first 10 signs of the output are?
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> what does AIGLX mean?
[06:33] <lastnode> NkZ, problems like yours usually fascinate me. but im crazy busy atm with school. else id be of more use. sorry.
[06:33] <davidgw7> i used the nvidia howto didnt have a prblem at all seting it up
[06:33] <lastnode> IndyGunFreak, AIGLX is like XGL. Wikipedia has a good article on it
[06:33] <lastnode> ok all
[06:33] <lastnode> night
[06:33] <NkZ> lastnode: I know the meaning, I think I could just sit and wait for a patch.
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> lastnode: ok
[06:33] <lastnode> crimsun, im off mate. night.
[06:33] <Costel> starly:
[06:33] <Costel> drwxr-xr-x
[06:34] <starly> thanks
[06:34] <SteleHi> How is everything going on?
[06:34] <NkZ> lastnode: Just out of thought, could the Printer set up be the nest of my isses?
[06:34] <NkZ> issues*
[06:34] <ardchoille> He left
[06:34] <gop> !screen cast
[06:35] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[06:35] <NkZ> Thanx
[06:35] <SteleHi> I'm having some Nautilus/bonobo problems, could anybondy helpme?
[06:35] <davidgw7> i so cant wait to show my vista loveing friend linux can go 3d to :)
[06:35] <ardchoille> davidgw7: :)
[06:35] <Costel> vista sucks
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> vista is always terrible.
[06:35] <finalbeta> Someone trying to be popular :p
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> davidgw7: and Linux has had 3d Desktop for longer than Vista I do believe
[06:36] <Costel> with my income =5$ week :)) i cant have vista
[06:36] <Hasrat_Usa> let me tell you one thing vista loving folks. after all the bullshittery MS did with Vista this year, if any sane hacker find flaws in vista from now on, he aint gonna inform MS or anyone anymore. instead, he is gonna exploit it to such an extent that either vista would have to be re-written or MS would have to give its customers refund
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> davidgw7: with MS, its like Tabbed browser, IE gets it, and its new and innovative, but Firefox, Opera and Konq have had it for a while
[06:37] <davidgw7> i havent touched linux in about 3 years. no puter when i got a new one i ubuntu online and it made coming back much easyer
[06:37] <shatrat> davidgw7, compiz has been around since 2004, I believe project looking glass is even older.
[06:37] <Costel> !compiz
[06:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:37] <davidgw7> i tryed looking glass and my good is it slow
[06:37] <ardchoille> Speaking of tabbed.. is there a way to get all open apps tabbed at the top or bottom of the screen instead of having a window list in the panel?
[06:37] <NkZ> I wouldn't waste time complaining about Vista guys, It's as useless as complaining about diarrea.
[06:38] <Hasrat_Usa> lol
[06:38] <crosis> rver irc.enterthegame.com
[06:38] <shatrat> davidgw7, its written in java.
[06:38] <Elrik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7376/
[06:38] <davidgw7> why complain about vista run linux :)
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> davidgw7: i wish more people would... my mom is still usin Win98
[06:39] <davidgw7> i do like beryl and with only 512 in ram it move so smooth
[06:39] <davidgw7> ak cough
[06:39] <davidgw7> 98 is still the best windows
[06:40] <Elrik> My dad is like "Why switch to linux? Windows works perfectly fine, that's all I want out of an OS, sure, it crashes a few times, and I spend hours complaining to you about it not working properly, but oh well!"
[06:40] <davidgw7> still had dos under it
[06:40] <fr500> davidgw7: but open firefox and more apps, it starts to feel heavy
[06:40] <starly> does anybody know, which is (GDM's) authorisation file?
[06:40] <posingaspopular> Elrik: wow, i have those kind of people in my house. it is so aggravating
[06:40] <davidgw7> no problem with heavy nes not much lag at all
[06:41] <n33o> hello
[06:41] <shatrat> consumers are determined to be ignorant when it comes to technology, at all cost
[06:41] <ardchoille> starly: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ?
[06:41] <n33o> Can anyone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[06:41] <NkZ> Consumers and political actors, that is.
[06:41] <davidgw7> though i do turn off beryl when im gaming
[06:42] <despereador> I have problem with my xserver x dont start
[06:42] <posingaspopular> !x
[06:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <n33o> x doesnt start?
[06:42] <Costel> if ubuntu is gonna be in all PC's must have interface for most of the packagers
[06:42] <despereador> I cant get to desktop
[06:42] <finalbeta> If I where to buy a RAID card, how do I check if it's compatible with Ubuntu?
[06:42] <n33o> !router
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <n33o> hmmm
[06:42] <davidgw7> have you tryed reinstalling xorg drivers?
[06:42] <despereador> I need to configure /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:42] <ardchoille> Costel: You mean like Synaptic?
[06:42] <Costel> despereador: startx
[06:42] <n33o> desp.. can you help me?
[06:42] <despereador> no
[06:42] <starly> ardchoille: no, this is the configuration file. i have problems logging in with gdm, but under tty1 there isn't any problem. gdm is complaining about missing writing permissions to my authorisation file
[06:43] <NkZ> Everytime I print something now, My ubuntu hangs. Anyone knows anything about that?
[06:43] <despereador> should i try to install it ?
[06:43] <ardchoille> starly: You've been using sudo with GUI apps haven't you?
[06:43] <n33o> would it be easier to just buy a normal router?
[06:43] <Elrik> Lol, dad had a nervous breakdown when i installed firefox "NOTHING WORKS LIKE IT USED TO!! GET RID OFF IT!"
[06:43] <starly> ardchoille: yes
[06:44] <davidgw7> i like opera better
[06:44] <despereador> how to reinstall xorg
[06:44] <despereador> I have intel graphic not ati
[06:44] <NkZ> Everytime I print something now, My ubuntu hangs. Anyone knows anything about that?
[06:44] <despereador> integer
[06:44] <ardchoille> starly: Log into tty1, ls -la ~/.ICEauthority ~/.Xauthority  and see who the owner of those two files it.
[06:45] <starly> thank you (i suppose the user has to be the owner)
[06:45] <ardchoille> starly: ls -la ~/.*authority
[06:46] <ardchoille> starly: That is what can happen when you use sudo with GUI apps. Change the owner to your username
[06:46] <ardchoille> !gksudo | starly
[06:46] <ubotu> starly: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[06:47] <starly> ICEauthority is owned by me and my group, Xauthority is owned by me and the root group. should it also be owned by my group?
[06:47] <davidgw7> i use a seprate acount for sudo and use it when i need su powers
[06:47] <NkZ> I am trying to print a file: The Printer manager says "Pending: Printer Stopped" and the Printer is on. If I turn it off and back on it will just print the test page but not the file I want, anyone knows what's the issue? (HP PSC 1410)
[06:47] <ardchoille> starly: Both should be your username and your group
[06:48] <skweek> hello
[06:48] <starly> ah, is working thanks a lot :-)
[06:48] <ardchoille> starly: You're welcome :)
[06:49] <NkZ> Now It says "Printing: Job-Printing" But it's not even moving. :-P
[06:50] <davidgw7> i had tryed zen walk before trying ubuntu and it used to do the oddest things with x and gnome
[06:50] <NkZ> Forget it, I managed to get it to print.
[06:51] <NkZ> Now give me 2 minutes and my ubuntu will freeze.
[06:51] <NkZ> (ACPI being mean to me)
[06:51] <n33o> something wierd.. wireless had dropouts.. on pppoe now using dedicated ip and its fine!
[06:51] <n33o> ?
[06:51] <Tweek888> Hello
[06:51] <emet> fiesty fawn is really clean
[06:51] <fadey> hello, everyone. Does anyone know if it is possible to clean the system from rubbish (dependencies that are not needed anymore)
[06:52] <Tweek888> I've got a linkskey lkw-g553, I was wondering if it is linux compatible?
[06:52] <ardchoille> fadey: You on Edgy?
[06:52] <NkZ> fadey: sudo apt-get autoremove should do it.
[06:52] <justdave> did there used to be a separate planet.ubuntu.com somewhere that carried everything on the member's feeds while the main planet only carried the Ubuntu-related feed content?  Or was that all a dream? :)
[06:52] <fadey> ardchoille: yes
[06:52] <NkZ> (If I am not wrong)
[06:52] <ardchoille> fadey: NkZ beat me to it :)
[06:53] <fadey> NkZ: thanks a lot. trying ...
[06:53] <ardchoille> fadey: The reason I asked your distro is because Dapper's version of apt-get doesn't have the autoremove option
[06:53] <Elrik> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2205342#post2205342
[06:53] <NkZ> ardchoille: I'm just a mad newb ubuntu user who has messed up so badly with the system that knows 1 thing or maybe none. :-P
[06:53] <ardchoille> NkZ: hahaha
[06:54] <justdave> I have vague memories of a planet.ubuntu.com/universe/ a long time ago, but that doesn't seem to exist now, so maybe my memory is making things up :)
[06:54] <davidgw7> i cant wait for fiesty to come out stable it realy look like its going to be nice
[06:54] <Tweek888> does anyone here have ndiswrapper experience?
[06:54] <NkZ> archoille: I once did a chown -r /
[06:54] <fr500> Tweek888: just ask >D
[06:54] <NkZ> Tell me about it.
[06:54] <Tweek888> kk
[06:54] <Elrik> I have a horrible experience of it, if that's what you're wondering tweek888
[06:54] <ardchoille> NkZ: Ouch!
[06:54] <gerhard> hello, when I run gksudo gdmsetup to change my logon screen, i get an error that it cant connect to the socket. how do I fix that?
[06:54] <Tweek888> can I get my linkskey lkw-g553 (marvell chipset) to work with it?
[06:55] <ardchoille> gerhard: That is normal, and it is safe to ignore.
[06:55] <sris> is it possible to make less continue to display what it's currently displayen after it's closed with q ?
[06:55] <NkZ> ardchoille: Know if there is any other way to disable acpi besides doing it from the grub, loading the kernel and all that stuff?
[06:55] <_Luks> how do i execute a script, before i log in ?
[06:55] <ardchoille> gerhard: Does gdmsetup launch ?
[06:55] <gerhard> ardchoille, how do I change my logon screen then?
[06:55] <fr500> Tweek888: that question should go to #ndiswrapper, i'd say it should work tho
[06:55] <Tweek888> thanks
[06:55] <gerhard> ardchoille, neither
[06:55] <sris> i.e. if you scroll to a section you can look at it when you type next command
[06:55] <_Luks> how do i execute a script, before i gdm runs ?
[06:55] <Hasrat_Usa> why is there a different channel for kubuntu?
[06:56] <fr500> _Luks: you could put it in /etc/rc.local
[06:56] <NkZ> Don't tell me there is a freaking ndiswrapper channel because I am going berserk
[06:56] <ardchoille> gerhard: gksudo gdmsetup  , does it even launch?
[06:56] <fr500> NkZ: tthere is
[06:56] <alecjw> hi. i've jsut formatted an ext3 hard drive by accident. is ther any way of getting my data back?
[06:56] <gerhard> ardchoille, no it doesnt
[06:56] <Vigo> Last install got pooched, user error, that's me:-|, I can install from this LiveCD now? or should I boot/install?
[06:56] <NkZ> I am gonna cry, I spent 1 week setting up my Wi fi and now I know there is a ndis channel.
[06:56] <_Luks> fr500: only it ? if i put it now, and then i restart my pc, it'll run ?
[06:57] <_Luks> automatically ?
[06:57] <ardchoille> gerhard: You can 'gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf' and change the gdm scren from there, but you need to find out why gdmsetup isn't working.
[06:57] <fr500> _Luks: yes
[06:57] <Elrik> I've spent all day trying to NkZ, I'm tired and desperate and i still haven't got it to work
[06:57] <_Luks> fr500: thx ;)
[06:57] <Elrik> today and yesterday
[06:57] <gerhard> ardchoille, thx
[06:57] <fr500> _Luks: call it before the exit line of course
[06:57] <NkZ> Elrik: There are some useful pages guiding through the use of ndiswrapper.
[06:58] <Elrik> NkZ i' just finished the ndiswrapper. now I just want to be able to connect to my home network
[06:58] <_Luks> fr500: ok
[06:58] <jacob_skobel> how do i regester and identify myself on here
[06:58] <NkZ> Elrik: If I may suggest you, I would go on console and type "lspci" and check if you have a "Marvel Libertas"
[06:58] <ardchoille> gerhard: Oops, it's gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom in Dapper.. maybe the same for Edgy.
[06:58] <alecjw> anyone?
[06:58] <NkZ> Elrik: Those have some "extra" steps.
[06:59] <Elrik> NkZ Nope, didn't find any marvel libertas on there
[07:00] <NkZ> Elrik; Did you run ndiswrapper -l and It said "Hardware found, correct driver"?
[07:00] <Elrik> says driver installed, hardware present. nkz
[07:00] <LinTux> I need to change the s in KDE to 1024 x 768, nowhere to change the setting
[07:01] <LinTux> sorry
[07:01] <NkZ> Elrik: If you're on Ubuntu using the gNOME you could go to system - administration - networking
[07:01] <Vigo> I will try the Install , it is fun to learn! :)
[07:01] <NkZ> Elrik: There should be a new tab saying "Wireless"
[07:01] <raulz> help! i need to change the resolution of my login window its set too high Plzz anybody????
[07:01] <posingaspopular> !x
[07:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:01] <LinTux> I need to change the setting for the screen res in KDE, i cannot find it, do I have something missing
[07:02] <Elrik> NkZ Yep, I know, I clicked it and selected properties, specified the Essid, and network key, but i still don't have a connection to the internet, also i tried restarting my computer.
[07:02] <NkZ> Elrik: That's madly weird.
[07:02] <Mr__> how do you change the xchat usetlist back into a real list on the side and not a popup list?
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone use 6.10 w/ dual displays?
[07:03] <LinTux> how do you change the screen resolution in KDE?
[07:03] <nowher1> Hi, trying Ubuntu for first time here. And I want to connect via WPA, but so far with some trouble - only got connected via WEP. I am following a howto and it has instructions for updating the drivers. When I execute the apt-get command it states: Package build-essential has no installation candidate?
[07:03] <alecjw> hi. i've jsut formatted an ext3 hard drive by accident. is ther any way of getting my data back?
[07:03] <NkZ> Elrik: Might be a somewhat lame question from me, but did you check the box to the left of "Wireless Connection"?
[07:03] <Elrik> NkZ yes, it's checked.
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> alecjw: in a word.. no
[07:04] <ardchoille> Mr__: View -> Layout ?
[07:04] <ompaul> LinTux, sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for changing it across the machine - in kubuntu ask in #kubuntu
[07:04] <Mr__> ardchoille:  if there was a view menu like normal xchat
[07:05] <NkZ> Elrik: No idea dude. Double check the password.
[07:05] <ardchoille> Mr__: There isn't? They must have changed that, then.
[07:05] <LinTux> ompaul: it come up command not found?
[07:05] <Mr__> ardchoille:  ya thats why i'm confused...
[07:05] <NkZ> Elrik: Double check the network pass and check out if it's hexadecimal or plain. That uses to mess up.
[07:05] <yeniklasor> Is here anyone has HP pavilion dv6000 laptop ??
[07:06] <Elrik> NkZ I wrote the password onto a text board, triple checked it, copied it and pasted it onto the wireless key thingy, strange.
[07:06] <ardchoille> Mr__: I think you're using xchat-gnome instead of normal xchat.
[07:06] <ompaul> LinTux, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << minor typo
[07:06] <alecjw> IndyGunFreak, but when it formats it, it doesnt compeltey wipe it does it?
[07:06] <NkZ> Elrik: Checked if it was hexadecimal or plain?
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> alecjw: well what do you think it does?
[07:06] <nowher1> This command doesn't work, why? "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[07:06] <Elrik> It's hexadecimal NkZ
[07:07] <NkZ> Elrik: Then I am officially lost.
[07:07] <alecjw> IndyGunFreak, marks fles as delted. isbn't that what it does? it dosen't erase every last bit of the partition
[07:07] <alecjw> does it?
[07:07] <Mr__> ardchoille: thats all that is in the package manager
[07:07] <Elrik> NkZ me too, but thanks for the help anyways
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> alecjw: for your sake, i hope not, but don't get your hopes up
[07:07] <NkZ> Elrick: Last thing I can think of, did you load Ndiswrapper to the modprobe?
[07:07] <ardchoille> Mr__: There's xchat and xchat-gnome You may want to uninstall xchat-gnome and install xchat.
[07:07] <NkZ> I mean, Ndiswrapper -m and then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[07:08] <infidel> !ati
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <LinTux> I used to be able to change it in the Control Centre?
[07:08] <ardchoille> Mr__: xchat is in universe. repo.
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: do you know how to change the buddy list on x-chat gnome?
[07:08] <Elrik> NkZ modprobe config already contains alias directive
[07:08] <LinTux> I have the screen resolution option missing in Control Panel, how do I get it bacl?
[07:08] <ardchoille> Mr__: I just checked, xchat and xchat-gnome UI's differ a bit.
[07:09] <NkZ> Elrik: Got out of ideas in here.
[07:09] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: No, I don't use it, I use irssi
[07:09] <nowher1> NkZ: : Are you the wireless networking specialist in here?
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: irssi hurts my eyes more than KDE...lol
[07:09] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:09] <NkZ> nowherl: Negative on that, I'm just a newb who got beated up really madly by ndiswrapper.
[07:09] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Not with the right theme. I made my own.
[07:09] <yeniklasor> Who have HP pavilion laptop ?
[07:09] <elbarto> hi there, i have a machine that's quite new and i'm having problems to boot from ubuntu CD... could anyone help me?
[07:10] <IndyGunFreak> own irssi theme, or your own KDE theme?
[07:10] <LinTux> how to get screen resolution option back in Control Centre
[07:10] <nowher1> elbarto: Have you made it bootable, and is the bios set to boot from cd-rom?
[07:10] <andel8> how can i install apt-utils with ldap support?
[07:10] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: I make all my own themes, from GTK2 to xmms, to gkrellm to irssi, etc.
[07:11] <Mr__> ardchoille: thanks, i see regular xchat now *thinks about going back to slack* lol
[07:11] <NkZ> nowherl: If It's against rules for a non spec to give advices and support I will desist from it.
[07:11] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2593/irssifo4.jpg
[07:11] <ardchoille> Mr__: You're welcome :)
[07:11] <IndyGunFreak> yeah see, irssi hurts my eyes.
[07:12] <elbarto> nowher1 yes, the CD is fine... i have ubuntu 6.06 for both 32 and 64 bits original cds... i also downloaded the ISOs of Edgy Eft (both 64 and 32 bits) and I had problems with all 4
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> can you change it to black on white, inste4ad of white on black?
[07:12] <nowher1> NkZ:  Oh no... I'm just getting brainwashed by problems with wireless networking myself :<
[07:12] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: Yep
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, it might work for me that way, hang on i'll try it.
[07:12] <AlexC_> Morning,
[07:12] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: You can change a lot of stuff: http://irssi.org/themes
[07:12] <elbarto> nowher1 actually, the CD is booting, the problems is that it doesn't load ubuntu live
[07:12] <NkZ> Nowherl: I know the feeling.
[07:12] <yeniklasor> Anyone using MM cards on ubuntu?
[07:13] <yeniklasor> MMC
[07:13] <AlexC_> !anyone | yeniklasor
[07:13] <ubotu> yeniklasor: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:13] <ardchoille> yeniklasor: As in Meal Master?
[07:13] <lisandro> HI!
[07:13] <AlexC_> Hi,
[07:13] <NkZ> Elrik: If I may suggest, I would go to ubuntuforum.org and run a search with the name of my wireless card.
[07:13] <lisandro> I need some help
[07:13] <nowher1> NkZ:  For example I found this nice howto, but now it appears the package it wants me to download is no longer available, or something...........
[07:13] <AlexC_> lisandro: then ask a question :P
[07:13] <ikonia> lisandro: ask the question then
[07:13] <lisandro> i've got an old version of ubuntu
[07:13] <ikonia> ok
[07:13] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: be right back, im gonna setup irssi again.
[07:13] <NkZ> Elrik: There "could" be some special step you're missing
[07:13] <lisandro> i want to upgrade it
[07:13] <ikonia> and you want to upgrade yes ?
[07:13] <finalbeta> Would this card work under Ubuntu? http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Port-1-eSATA-3-SATA-3GBps-PORT-MULTIPLIER-PCI-Card_W0QQitemZ120042510238QQihZ002QQcategoryZ167QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
[07:13] <AlexC_> !enter | lisandro
[07:13] <ubotu> lisandro: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:13] <ikonia> shock horror
[07:14] <NkZ> nowherl: What is it asking for?
[07:14] <ikonia> !upgrade > lisandro
[07:14] <yeniklasor> AlexC_ : How can I get work my MMC ?????????
[07:14] <ardchoille> yeniklasor: What is mmc?
[07:14] <AlexC_> yeniklasor: I do not know, please ask everyone ... not just me :P
[07:14] <yeniklasor> multimedia card
[07:15] <ardchoille> Oh
[07:15] <ikonia> yeniklasor: you check if its supported under linux
[07:15] <starly> i have a weird problem (today it doesn't seem to be my day): i can use irc, but not www nor ssh nor can i get any new packages with aptitude. how do i configure my http-connection?
[07:15] <ardchoille> I'm a tar today
[07:15] <ardchoille> *tard
[07:15] <jax> what can i do to correct gxine because it's unable to play sound whilst vlc can play no video ?
[07:15] <ompaul> ardchoille, be nice (even to yourself :))
[07:15] <nowher1> nkz: this it what it states: "E: Package build-essential has no installation candida"
[07:15] <ikonia> ompaul: be excellent to your self, and each other
[07:15] <yeniklasor> I already checked but couldn't get work it and also my webcam
[07:15] <NkZ> ardchoille: I'm a tard everyday and I don't complain. :-)
[07:15] <ikonia> yeniklasor: check if its supported under linux
[07:16] <NkZ> Nowherl: Build Essensials can be found in Synaptic.
[07:16] <ardchoille> NkZ: lol
[07:16] <nowher1> nkz: where is the synaptic?
[07:16] <yeniklasor> ikonia : Why its not supported?
[07:16] <AlexC_> System->Admin->Synaptic
[07:16] <NkZ> Nowherl: System, Administration, Synaptic Package manager
[07:16] <ikonia> yeniklasor: I said "see if its IS supported"
[07:16] <nowher1> NkZ: How will i know which ones I need?
[07:17] <NkZ> nowherl: Run a search for "Build Essenssials" he will patch you up.
[07:17] <yeniklasor> ikonia : I saw for another linux dist.
[07:17] <yeniklasor> I couldt see for ubuntu
[07:17] <ikonia> yeniklasor: check if it is supported in Linux - not any distro - in Linux
[07:17] <NkZ> nowherl: But, what are you wanting to install?
[07:17] <AlexC_> NkZ: nowher1 - it's spelt Build Essential
[07:18] <NkZ> As he said it. :-:-P
[07:18] <nowher1> nkz: I follow this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241565
[07:18] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: how do i set it up to get on freenode?
[07:18] <NkZ> Sorry, Native spanish lenguage here. :-)
[07:18] <AlexC_> NkZ: hehe, no worries
[07:18] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: /connect irc.freenode.net
[07:18] <will_> I still can't play DVDs.
[07:18] <will_> :(
[07:19] <noelferreira> any help with ez-ipupdate?
[07:19] <AlexC_> !restricted | will_
[07:19] <ubotu> will_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:19] <IndyGunFreak> will_: did you follow the wiki
[07:19] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: thanks
[07:19] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: You're welcome :)
[07:19] <AlexC_> noelferreira: just ask you're main question,
[07:19] <will_> IndyGunFreak,  Yes.
[07:19] <IndyGunFreak> will_: then you did something wrong, it works
[07:19] <noelferreira> i need my ip always in dyndns database
[07:19] <person> I have a computer with only 64 megs of ram, and live cd doesn't seem to work. Is it possible to just install it without going into live cd?
[07:20] <AlexC_> person: download the Alternate CD
[07:20] <knight> hi whats the difference b/w an ftp mirror and http mirror?
[07:20] <person> awesome, thanks
[07:20] <IndyGunFreak> ok, brb
[07:20] <AlexC_> knight: different transport protocols
[07:20] <knight> AlexC_, but are contents same?
[07:20] <HymnToLife> persen, even if you install Ubuntu, on 64 megs of RAM it will be horribly slow
[07:20] <soundray> person: even the alternate CD won't work for you
[07:20] <noelferreira> AlexC_, i need some type of script that in reboot and every time my ip changes it automatically changes it in dyndns database AlexC_
[07:20] <will_> I don't know which of these to pick.
[07:20] <will_> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/deb/
[07:20] <person> So, I need 128?
[07:21] <AlexC_> knight: depends on the file =) but if they are a 'mirror' then yes, they should be the same
[07:21] <NkZ> Is there any Linux distro that could work with 64 MB?
[07:21] <AlexC_> NkZ: DSL
[07:21] <soundray> person: you can install xubuntu in 64MB from the alternate xubuntu CD
[07:21] <ubunt1> jhey
[07:21] <soundray> person: ...just
[07:21] <elbarto> as I was saying, I have a problem to install Ubuntu on my machine... I have an intel core 2 duoc cpu, with 1gb of ram and a 200gb sata disk... i tryied with the original CDs of Ubuntu 6.06 (both 64 and 32 bits) and with the copies of Ubuntu 6.10 (also both 64 and 32 bits).... My problems: with 6.06 I can't get the kernel to load... with 64bits version it stays saying "uncompressing linux..." and that's it... with 32 bits, it loads the first module, it says
[07:21] <AlexC_> Puppy Linux, there are loads of distros that can run on 64mb ram
[07:21] <HymnToLife> DSL is for really light hardsware
[07:21] <nowher1> NkZ: Ok I found a list of Linux Headers.
[07:21] <ubunt1> i want to have clamav ultimate
[07:21] <will_> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/deb/
[07:21] <HymnToLife> you could try Xubuntu or Debian if you like Gnome
[07:21] <will_> Which should I pick?
[07:21] <ubunt1> why ubuntu say that tehe version 8.88 is the last
[07:21] <ubunt1> !clamav
[07:21] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:21] <NkZ> nowherl: Build essentials alone could do it.
[07:21] <knight> AlexC_, but if not? if they are the real sites?
[07:22] <NkZ> nowherl: If I am not wrong, I might, Ubuntu already comes with the headers installed.
[07:22] <MadMatt> can anyone help me out with automounting samba shares?
[07:22] <ubunt1> !kaspersky
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaspersky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Nielssonnich> hi
[07:22] <HymnToLife> !antivirus
[07:22] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[07:22] <nowher1> NkZ: I didn't remove t hem :<
[07:22] <Elrik> NkZ I have an idea, before I used ndiswrapper to mount another network card, and modprobe and all, how do I make it so that it removes previous modprobe configuration so I can redo it?
[07:22] <AlexC_> knight: I don't know if they will be the same ... I don't know what files you're talking about so, one could be 1mb the other could be 100mb - if both links are given on the same site then they are probably the same
[07:22] <noelferreira> AlexC_, i need some type of script that in reboot and every time my ip changes it automatically changes it in dyndns database AlexC_
[07:22] <AlexC_> !repeat | noelferreira
[07:22] <ubotu> noelferreira: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:22] <ubunt1> HymnToLife:  Thanks .
[07:23] <AlexC_> noelferreira: system->Administartion->Networking and configure it their to use DNS instead of static
[07:23] <will_> IndyGunFreak?
[07:23] <nowher1> NkZ: Here is the complete error: Reading package lists... Done
[07:23] <nowher1> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:23] <nowher1> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:23] <nowher1> is only available from another source
[07:23] <nowher1> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[07:23] <IndyGunFreak> will_: ?
[07:23] <ubunt1> hey
[07:23] <thee3> i just now installed oracle10g express ed on my friends dapper but in my edgy it doesn't work. firefox opens up saying 'unable to connect'.
[07:23] <AlexC_> !paste ! nowher1
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ! nowher1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Gartral> !upgrade
[07:23] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:23] <will_> IndyGunFreak, Which of these should I pick?
[07:23] <AlexC_> woops
[07:23] <will_> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/deb/
[07:23] <ubunt1> i have installed WIndows XP,UBUntu and KNoppix why KNoppix won't start
[07:23] <Gartral> !upgrade
[07:23] <AlexC_> !paste | nowher1
[07:23] <ubotu> nowher1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <NkZ> Elrik: my Knowledges don't go as far as knowing how to modify the modprobe. There I can't help.
[07:23] <Gartral> !upgrade
[07:23] <Gartral> !upgrade
[07:23] <Gartral> !upgrade
[07:23] <AlexC_> !spam | Gartral
[07:23] <ubotu> Gartral: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[07:23] <IndyGunFreak> will_: what are you talking about?... yu lost me.. just follow the wiki
[07:24] <NkZ> nowherl: You couldn't install build essentials?
[07:24] <yeniklasor> ikonia : http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~onur/tmp/linux-uvc-0.0_78-1.pisi   Thats works for Pardus
[07:24] <will_> IndyGunFreak, It says I need one of those.
[07:24] <up365> !XMMS | up365
[07:24] <HymnToLife> Elrik, modprobe has nothing to do with configuration it just loads a kernel module into memory
[07:24] <ardchoille> will_: You not on AMD64 are you>
[07:24] <HymnToLife> you can also use it to unload a previoiusly loaded module
[07:24] <ardchoille> ?
[07:24] <will_> I don't know.
[07:24] <IndyGunFreak> will_: did you follow the instructions on the wiki, it will handle all the dependencies for you
[07:24] <AlexC_> nowher1: you probably need extra repositores enabled, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[07:24] <will_> Processor?
[07:24] <nowher1> NkZ: That is the complete error it gives from typing the command, the one from the guide. I think I should just install the latest Linux Headers with the synaptic package manager?
[07:25] <kane77> ubuntu started acting weirdly... it deletes my dns servers i have in network configuration. when I enter the dns's it switches from ra0 to eth0 which is wrong (I use ra0 for internet) plus all of this takes _VERY_ long... and when I restart (turn off and on) its again the same (no dns) what can I do??
[07:25] <will_> IndyGunFreak, I'm stuck. It don't get it. It says:
[07:25] <will_> To play most DVDs you'll need the libdvdcss2 package from [WWW]  here. This is a third party package, and not supported by Ubuntu. See Installing Software to install the file.
[07:25] <AlexC_> nowher1: enable extra repositores, then try to install it again
[07:25] <thee3> i just now installed oracle10g express ed on my friends dapper but in my edgy it doesn't work. firefox opens up saying 'unable to connect'. anybody????
[07:25] <nowher1> ok thanks alexc_
[07:25] <IndyGunFreak> will_: hang on a sec.. answer my PM
[07:25] <noelferreira> AlexC_,  what should i put in dns server? i have 192.168.1.1. should i put www.dyndns.org ?
[07:25] <NkZ> nowherl: The command from that guide is not needed to install Build-Essentials as they are found inside the synaptic package manager.
[07:25] <will_> Okay.
[07:26] <ardchoille> will_: The wiki tells yo how to install libdvdcss2
[07:26] <AlexC_> noelferreira: I don't know what settings you need so I can't really help with that, sorry
[07:26] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: He's not indentified
[07:26] <svu> does gaim support voip on dapper? It seems no
[07:26] <ALMimoni> how to change splash screen?
[07:26] <IndyGunFreak> oh, well that makes sense
[07:26] <AlexC_> svu: nope, afaik - use aMSN instead?
[07:26] <kane77> noelferreira, try opendns... the pings arent best but it is quite reliable (and free)
[07:27] <NkZ> Nowherl: You can go to System-Administration-Synaptic Package manager to get the Build Essentials, That would be just like running the command. As for the headers I think they are already installed by default on ubuntu.
[07:27] <elbarto> quit
[07:27] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: You can he can /join #IndyGunFreak  though
[07:27] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: how can you tell that, just curious?
[07:27] <svu> AlexC_, will it talk to gtalk people?
[07:27] <AlexC_> svu: aMSN only does MSN I'm affraid,
[07:27] <NkZ> ardchoille: Kernel-Headers come installed by default on ubuntu, right?
[07:27] <thee3> Anybody? Please.
[07:27] <AlexC_> !anyone | thee3
[07:27] <ubotu> thee3: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:27] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: /msg nickserv info $NICK
[07:27] <svu> AlexC_, no use then
[07:28] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: oh ok
[07:28] <AlexC_> svu: hum ... I'm not sure if Kopete can do that, it's KDE though
[07:28] <svu> AlexC_, pity pity. Thanks anyway
[07:28] <ardchoille> NkZ: Don't know, I've never needed them.
[07:28] <soundray> ubotu, no anyone ~= s/amount/number/
[07:28] <SilentFire> which enviornment do u guys find better to work with? KDE or gnome?
[07:28] <thee3> AlexC_ I already asked my question twice.
[07:28] <NkZ> archoille: I think that means a yes. :-) Else you would be asked for them.
[07:28] <ompaul> ardchoille, IndyGunFreak as it is not a project it must have a ## in front of it :)
[07:28] <AlexC_> SilentFire: which do you prefer? Tea or Coffee?
[07:28] <SilentFire> haha
[07:29] <SilentFire> i go with Tea
[07:29] <soundray> SilentFire: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:29] <SilentFire> :-P
[07:29] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: oh trust me, i'm a project..lol
[07:29] <kane77> ubuntu doesnt save my network settings.. anybody can help??
[07:29] <ardchoille> ompaul: Ah, good point.
[07:29] <AzRider> !upgrade
[07:29] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:29] <AlexC_> SilentFire: it's preference ... what could be good for me, may not work for you. Try both of them and see
[07:29] <IndyGunFreak> will_: do you have yahoo, msn, aim, whatever?
[07:29] <SilentFire> ok cool
[07:29] <AlexC_> SilentFire: good man for going with Tea though! I like tea!
[07:29] <will_> AIM.
[07:29] <SilentFire> haha
[07:29] <nowher1> thanks alexc_ - that worked, I now can proceed with the howto :)
[07:29] <will_> IndyGunFreak, I'll pm it to you.
[07:30] <AlexC_> nowher1: you're welcome =)
[07:30] <SilentFire> well i am India...and many indians love tea
[07:30] <SilentFire> so
[07:30] <SilentFire> :)
[07:30] <SilentFire> indian*
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> will_: you can't PM, you aren't registerd
[07:30] <Zero9983> Ubuntu 6.06 has built in firewall ?
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> jus send an instant message to IndyGunFreak.. with AIM
[07:30] <ardchoille> Zero9983: Yes, it's called iptables.
[07:30] <AlexC_> Zero9983: every Ubuntu release has had a built in firewall,
[07:30] <knight> !commonsense
[07:30] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:30] <AlexC_> Zero9983: infact ... every Linux distro has a built in firewall, I think
[07:30] <ardchoille> !firestarter | Zero9983
[07:30] <ubotu> Zero9983: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:30] <IndyGunFreak> it should be required people register to use #ubuntu..lol
[07:31] <ardchoille> lol
[07:31] <will_> How do I register?
[07:31] <Zero9983> thanks
[07:31] <IndyGunFreak> will_: i'll explain that in a sec
[07:31] <ompaul> !register | will_
[07:31] <AlexC_> will_: /msg nickserv register
[07:31] <ubotu> will_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:31] <kane77> Zero9983, if you mean for security reasons you dont need it... for stuff like internet sharing etc install firestarter
[07:31] <ardchoille> will_: /msg nickserv help register
[07:31] <IndyGunFreak> just send a message to indygunfreak
[07:31] <fraudster> anyone here have a geforce fx 7300GS PCI-E?
[07:31] <AlexC_> !anyone | fraudster
[07:31] <ubotu> fraudster: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:31] <ardchoille> ompaul: I'm gona have to learn more factoid triggers. Is there a list somewhere?
[07:31] <k_keller> I try to install ubuntu 6.10 DVD on Toshiba with ati radeon x700, however I get black screen during installation. I tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf but nothing works. In the case of the last one, i got the following error: bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off - can someone please help me
[07:31] <AlexC_> !ubotu | ardchoille
[07:32] <ubotu> ardchoille: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:32] <ardchoille> AlexC_: Thanks
[07:32] <AlexC_> you're welcome, ardchoille
[07:32] <ompaul> AlexC_, ardchoille we point to the external resource for register as people less likely to make a mess of it and it is not core to Ubuntu
[07:32] <will_> IndyGunFreak, AIM, wmiiii923
[07:32] <fraudster> AlexC_, no question. A survery
[07:32] <ardchoille> ompaul: Yeah, I'll do that too.
[07:32] <distant_voice> if I ever install something without using Add/Remove... in Applications and I want to get rid of it, can I just delete the folder? I installed the Doom 3 binaries but then realised that they don't work with the demo.
[07:32] <ALMimoni> how to change splash screen?
[07:32] <AlexC_> fraudster: this is a support channel, off topic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:32] <fraudster> AlexC_, or like if anyone has one; then... so stfu!
[07:33] <AlexC_> !language | fraudster
[07:33] <ubotu> fraudster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:33] <fraudster> dude
[07:33] <fraudster> omg
[07:33] <Zero9983> kane77:  i need to open port how can i open
[07:33] <sanzky> hi, does anyone know howto fix the :0.Xauth file, even root cant access it, so I cant start X
[07:33] <will_> IndyGunFreak,  do you want my AIM?
[07:33] <ompaul> fraudster for the sake of 1000 others you are asked not to do that
[07:33] <AlexC_> fraudster: this is a support channel, not a public poll. If you wanna do polls, do it on the forums in the Cafe or in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> will_: i just IM'd you
[07:33] <will_> I got it.
[07:33] <ardchoille> ALMimoni: It's in the gconf-editor. Open gconf-editor and go to apps/gnome-session/options and look at the splash_image key
[07:34] <fraudster> omfg AlexC_ die
[07:34] <AlexC_> !ops | fraudster
[07:34] <ubotu> fraudster: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:34] <ompaul> AlexC_, please count to 10 before you do that
[07:34] <AlexC_> ompaul: sorry :P
[07:34] <distant_voice> if I ever install something without using Add/Remove... in Applications and I want to get rid of it, can I just delete the folder? I installed the Doom 3 binaries but then realised that they don't work with the demo.
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> AlexC_: (ompaul) unless it's hundreds of lines of botspam :P
[07:34] <kane77> Zero9983, for this you can make use of firestarter
[07:34] <yccheok> hi, may i noe how i can capture a screen shoot, for a selected window "only"
[07:34] <AlexC_> tonyyarusso: haha yeah
[07:35] <CrakeHunter> will ubuntu 7 be more stable than its predecessors?
[07:35] <ompaul> AlexC_, as tonyyarusso says
[07:35] <kane77> Zero9983, or alternatively you can configure manually the iptables
[07:35] <AlexC_> yccheok: if you press alt+print screen I think it does the selected window only
[07:35] <Zero9983> kane77: where can i get the firestarter ? is built in on ubuntu ?
[07:36] <ALMimoni> ardchoille: thx
[07:36] <Waswat> hmm
[07:36] <ardchoille> ALMimoni: You're welcome :)
[07:36] <AlexC_> Zero9983: no, Firestarter is not by default in Ubuntu.
[07:36] <distant_voice> Zero9983: use Add/remove from the applications menu
[07:36] <Waswat> does anyone know how i or even IF can install xgl or beryl on my ubuntu installation?
[07:36] <Zero9983> ok thanks all
[07:36] <kane77> you can install it form synaptic/apt-get/aptitude/...
[07:36] <soundray> distant_voice: essentially, to uninstall you undo everything that you did to install. Sounds obvious, but it's not always easy to determine what a non-apt installer has done to your system.
[07:36] <kane77> Zero9983, yes its in synaptic
[07:37] <AlexC_> Waswat: How can we know if it will work if you don't give us any of you're PC specs?
[07:37] <distant_voice> waswat : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy, read the guide in here
[07:37] <cables> Can anyone tell me the best way to sync a USB palm OS device to a Linux PIM, like Evolution?
[07:37] <Gizmo_the_Great> Hi. I have Ubuntu Edgy setup as a Virtual Machine using VMWare running on Dapper Drake. I have enabled the USB Controller in the preferences of the Edgy VM but when I plug a USB drive in only my host (Daopper Drake) detects it and my Virtual machine (Edgy) does not. Any thoughts?
[07:37] <Zero9983> kane77:  i cant get it now , i downloading software now .
[07:37] <cables> !beryl | Waswat
[07:37] <ubotu> Waswat: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:37] <Waswat> thanks guys :D
[07:37] <kane77> Zero9983, you shouldnt have troubles setting it up... it's a gui application...
[07:37] <Waswat> i tried to install it before
[07:38] <Waswat> but i totally did something wrong
[07:38] <soundray> cables: with gnome-pilot
[07:38] <Waswat> therefore i had to re-install ubuntu :/
[07:38] <Zero9983> kane77:  thanks alot . i will try it later because i download other software using apt-get
[07:38] <Waswat> distant_voice, i've got dapper
[07:38] <kane77> Zero9983, okay
[07:38] <cables> soundray, will that work with USB devices? I think I tried it and had issues.
[07:38] <distant_voice> soundray: it was a .run file. I don't know what it did of course.... Let me rephrase my question: is it harmful to my system if I just delete the folders it created?
[07:38] <kane77> Zero9983, youre welcome
[07:38] <orangefly> why are my window toolbars gone when i use beryl....???....
[07:39] <cables> orangefly, it's beta... you can get beryl + ubuntu help in #ubunt-effects
[07:39] <tuskernini> orangefly, you have to run emerald
[07:39] <AlexC_> orangefly: you mean the Window borders? It happens sometimes, go into #ubuntu-effects
[07:39] <Zero9983>  ] \
[07:39] <orangefly> yeah....thanks....
[07:39] <AlexC_> cables: I thought Beryl was alpha?
[07:40] <cables> AlexC_, even worse then :)
[07:40] <AlexC_> cables: hehe yeah
[07:40] <ALMimoni> ardchoille:  where can i find this file splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[07:40] <ardchoille> ompaul: O never realised just how nice the bot was until now. Kudos to whomever wrote it.
[07:40] <soundray> cables: people have various kinds of issues. Mine was that the palm registered two USB devices, only one of them would work and it wasn't predictable whether it was /dev/ttyUSB0, -1, 2 or 3.
[07:40] <ardchoille> ALMimoni: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[07:40] <AlexC_> ardchoille: feed him if you want - !botsnack
[07:40] <kane77> AlexC_, everything's betta these days... :D it seems to be poppular, mainly on webpages...
[07:40] <ALMimoni> ardchoille: thx
[07:41] <cables> soundray, ok... I usually don't even sync it anyway, so that's fine.
[07:41] <ardchoille> AlexC_: Nah, the last thing we need is a fat bot, lol
[07:41] <cables> kane77, alpha.
[07:41] <AlexC_> kane77: yeah that's true ... I think they think it sounds cool to just stick "Beta" on the end .. or so if it breaks they can go "well, it is beta"
[07:41] <AlexC_> ardchoille: haha
[07:41] <soundray> cables: the solution was to set up conduits for all four devices. I still had difficulties after that, which were resolved by syncing through wireless
[07:41] <Elrik> Btw, I just realised something, before I was using another wireless card, but since it didn't have any support on linux ubuntu I switched networks card with the other computer, but the previous network cards drivers had been wrapped with ndiswrapper and i had used the modprobe command, how can I erase previous modprobe data?
[07:41] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me with a desktop issue.  I cant see the files I have saved on my desktop
[07:42] <cables> soundray, how do I use gnome-pilot? It's installed, but I have no idea how to use it. Also, does it support syncing over wi-fi?
[07:42] <distant_voice> soundray: it was a .run file. I don't know what it did of course.... Let me rephrase my question: is it harmful to my system if I just delete the folders it created? sry to bother you, just say yes or no if you don't have time.
[07:42] <AlexC_> wheels3572: do you put a "." before the file name?
[07:42] <wheels3572> AlexC_, No
[07:42] <cables> wheels3572, sure. do alt-f2 and do gconf-editor
[07:42] <soundray> distant_voice: it probably won't do any harm, but you will of course have remnants on the system
[07:42] <sycho> I am having a problem. when ubuntu trys to play wma and some video formats xorg crashes and puts me at the log-in screen. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:42] <kane77> AlexC_,  right. I'm wondering when gmail will become gamma :D
[07:42] <cables> wheels3572, tell me when that comes up
[07:42] <distant_voice> soundray: thx
[07:43] <Elrik> Tell ME baby, cmon
[07:43] <Elrik> oops.
[07:43] <AlexC_> Hum I really should get back to coding ... so much time is lost in this channel!!
[07:43] <knight> wheels3572, which desktop env. are you using?
[07:43] <Waswat> ^^
[07:43] <Gizmo_the_Great> Hi. I have Ubuntu Edgy setup as a Virtual Machine using VMWare running on Dapper Drake. I have enabled the USB Controller in the preferences of the Edgy VM but when I plug a USB drive in only my host (Daopper Drake) detects it and my Virtual machine (Edgy) does not. I have checked in the 'Removable Devices' preferences of my VM and everything is set to auto-mount etc. ny thoughts?
[07:43] <wheels3572> cables, nothing coming up on ALT-F2
[07:43] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone know what the game frozen bubble is?
[07:43] <Elrik> I want to start working with coding aswell, but I need to finish Ubuntu first I guess
[07:43] <cables> wheels3572, ok. Open a terminal, then.
[07:43] <wheels3572> knight, Xfce
[07:43] <AlexC_> wheels3572: sounds like Nautlis isn't running
[07:43] <shedi> it is the best game
[07:43] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: is it?
[07:43] <cables> wheels3572, ok, that only works in gnome.
[07:43] <kane77> AlexC_, heh that seems so familiar :D
[07:43] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, Oh yeah
[07:44] <shedi> :)
[07:44] <cables> wheels3572, I don't know how to do it in XFCE, sorry.
[07:44] <AlexC_> kane77: its like some time worm-hole ...
[07:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol, the grin scares me.. well its installing..
[07:44] <wheels3572> cables, np
[07:44] <shedi> heh
[07:44] <sergi1> hello, anyone know how to make xmms to read russian TAGS)
[07:44] <kane77> AlexC_, tell me about it! ;)
[07:44] <zmaster> hey all
[07:44] <AlexC_> hi,
[07:44] <AlexC_> Yeah, I really must go lol - bye all!
[07:44] <distant_voice> how can I run ported games like lxdoom or abuse  in fullscreen?
[07:44] <zmaster> how can i convert videos to psp format 480x272
[07:44] <kane77> bye
[07:44] <zmaster> ive tried ffmpeg but it works for resolutions other then 480x272
[07:45] <soundray> cables: yes, you can sync via wifi. Run the demon (gpilotd I think) on the command line while you're debugging. There is also a panel applet
[07:45] <Elrik> I just started learning C, Visual Basic, and a bit of Python,,
[07:45] <distant_voice> zmaster: doom9.org is an excellent source for everything video
[07:45] <cables> soundray, that's cool. Thanks
[07:45] <soundray> cables: it takes some patience and playing to find out how it works
[07:45] <cables> soundray, thanks
[07:46] <distant_voice> zmaster: this is a complicated matter and can't be easily done, prepare for some problems and a lot of reading tutorials
[07:46] <soundray> cables: note I got it to work in dapper -- the edgy version invariably crashed on HotSync.
[07:46] <cables> soundray, sounds painful. I'll play with it, though.
[07:46] <zmaster> distant_voice: thanks will try, and yea i know its a pain, already with ffmpeg i can convert and watch them at lower resolutions like 320x... but 480x272 just dont work
[07:46] <Meshezabeel> when I try to run a program httrack, it gives me a message "bash: /usr/bin/httrack: No such file or directory", however httrack is in /usr/local/bin/httrack. /usr/local/bin is in my $PATH, so why is it trying to get it from /usr/bin/httrack?
[07:47] <wheels3572> What is Nautilus and how do i know if it's running?
[07:47] <distant_voice> zmaster: if you already have some experience you should definetely check out doom9.org
[07:47] <Meshezabeel> wheels3572 Nautilus is like Windows Explorer for linux
[07:47] <wheels3572> Meshezabeel, ok.  How do I know if that is running?
[07:48] <zmaster> distant_voice: yea got some experience, as i said i can convert it all besides on -s 480x272 , checking out doom9 atm
[07:48] <sinister99> I have been trying to install Edgy x64 with the alternate install on a RAID-0 array.  no windows or anything, just linux.  I partitioned and made it into raid, and put /boot on the same drive and a different drive, and I get various grub errors and can't mount or boot
[07:48] <distant_voice> How can I edit my menus. If I rightclick -> edit menus nothing happens. is that a known issue or am I doing something wrong?
[07:48] <ALMimoni> how to change user picture?
[07:48] <Meshezabeel> wheels3572:  ps aux | nautilus
[07:49] <Meshezabeel> oops
[07:49] <soundray> cables: it's not entirely mature -- I think the hardware is largely undocumented and gpilot has been developed on the basis of reverse-engineering the Windows software.
[07:49] <Meshezabeel> ps aux | grep nautilus
[07:49] <distant_voice> ALMimoni:  System -> Preferences -> about me
[07:50] <betatux> distant_voice, try System->Preferences->Menu Layout , to edit your menu
[07:50] <wheels3572> Meshezabeel, wheels    5961  0.0  0.0   2800   752 pts/0    R+   13:50   0:00 grep nautilus
[07:50] <sepheebear> ALMimoni: rename a jpg/png file to ~/.face
[07:50] <knight> wheels3572, i think xfce 4.4 new version has got desktop icons
[07:50] <Meshezabeel> wheels3572 if that is the only one then it is not running
[07:50] <ALMimoni> distant_voice, sepheebear : thanks
[07:50] <ugarit> has the linux community released a patch for daylight savings time change for the Easter US timezone?
[07:50] <kaluna> sinister99: why select raid0? if 1 drive dies, you lost everything.
[07:50] <wheels3572> knight, Ok cuz when I save files to my desktop nothing shows up lol
[07:50] <sharp15> _eMax_: what menu settings were you referring to?
[07:51] <Meshezabeel> wheels3572 just type nautilus and see if it opens
[07:51] <wheels3572> That's all I see Meshezabeel when I do that command you gave
[07:51] <wheels3572> ok
[07:51] <distant_voice> betatux: same effect, I have a little something in my task bar but nothing comes up
[07:51] <sepheebear> ugarit: yes this has been fixed AFAIK
[07:51] <wheels3572> Meshezabeel, bash: nautilus: command not found
[07:52] <knight> wheels3572, just go to /Desktop in terminal
[07:52] <knight> wheels3572, and see fi ur files are there
[07:52] <k_keller> I try to install ubuntu 6.10 DVD on Toshiba with ati radeon x700, however I get black screen during installation. I tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf but nothing works. In the case of the last one, i got the following error: bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off - can someone please help me
[07:52] <ugarit> sepheebear: how do I confirm that I have the patch?
[07:52] <sinister99> kaluna: i have 2 small drives for just my os, all my important files are on other drives
[07:52] <sepheebear> ugarit: "zdump -v US/Pacific | grep 2007"
[07:52] <oij> Hi! Can someone please help me with this:
[07:52] <oij> When I turned on my computer I got only a text login.. I logged in and typed startx and gnomestarted.. How can I make it do as before e.g start x automaticly?
[07:53] <knight> wheels3572, ~/Desktop
[07:53] <sepheebear> ugarit: run that from a terminal and you should see the correct date
[07:53] <Plouj> hi
[07:53] <sepheebear> ugarit: "zdump -v US/Eastern | grep 2007"
[07:53] <ugarit> sepheebear: thank you :-)
[07:53] <soundray> oij: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[07:53] <Plouj> anyone know how many packages a net install Ubuntu isntalls? I see that it has already downloaded 400 packages. I'm wondering how many more are left.
[07:54] <oij> soundray: what does that do?
[07:54] <kaluna> sinister99: a small suggestion. Install most of the OS on 1 drive, and mount home on the other.
[07:54] <soundray> oij: man update-rc.d
[07:54] <wheels3572> knight, wheels@wheels-desktop:~/Desktop$
[07:54] <oij> soundray: " System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist."
[07:54] <wheels3572> is where they all reside
[07:55] <knight> wheels3572, do ls and see your files are there
[07:55] <wheels3572> knight, they are there when i do ls
[07:55] <wheels3572> but just not showing up on desktop lol.  and they are not hidden either.  Dont get it
[07:56] <sinister99> kaluna: I know that would be much easier, just wanted to get it working if i could, prolly be a little faster
[07:56] <knight> wheels3572, yah its there and i think xfce doesnt support desktop icons but xfce4.4 supports ckeck for that
[07:56] <freepenguin> hello
[07:56] <A[D] minS> hola
[07:57] <A[D] minS> when i try to install kernel source i get this output
[07:57] <A[D] minS> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:57] <A[D] minS> is only available from another source
[07:57] <A[D] minS> E: Package kernel-source-2.6 has no installation candidate
[07:57] <YannTech> hi all
[07:57] <A[D] minS> any one please can just tell me what i should do ?
[07:57] <A[D] minS> i changed my sources but the same
[07:57] <soundray> A[D] minS: install linux-source instead
[07:58] <Elrik> when i type sudo iwconfig eth1 it says
[07:58] <Elrik> eth1 802.11g zd1211 ESSID: "
[07:58] <wheels3572> knight, ok ty.  Will check Xfce4.4
[07:58] <andel8> guys - how can i install apr-utils with ldap support?
[07:58] <Elrik> the Essid in that thing isn't the correct one, but for some reason i'm not allowed to change it?
[07:58] <kaluna> sinister99: raid is a little trickier with grub on the boot drive. raid on other drives a lot easier. I have done raid1 on boot, but it does slow down the system.
[07:58] <A[D] minS> soundray: its da same ?
[07:58] <YannTech> Elrik: a iwlist eth1 sc ?
[07:58] <A[D] minS> :D
[07:58] <Slart> Is there a way to get a "open console and cd to this directory" in the right button menu in nautilus?
[07:59] <A[D] minS> i am installing now :d
[07:59] <bkudria> if i run update-grub, i get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/370602 , and my menu.1st file has what look like unescaped shal characters.  i've already purged and reinstalled the grub package, which didn't help.  what should i do?
[07:59] <soundray> A[D] minS: no, it isn't. This one will work.
[07:59] <goetiaoccultus> what rss reader do you people prefer
[07:59] <A[D] minS> thx for ur help
[07:59] <Felip1> hi
[07:59] <Elrik> YannTech what do you mean?
[07:59] <A[D] minS> soundray: i want kernel-source to install package need kernel-source
[07:59] <YannTech> that list all ssid present around you
[07:59] <A[D] minS> so it will do same task ?
[07:59] <betatux> goetiaoccultus, I'm using Thunderbird for my rss feeds
[07:59] <goetiaoccultus> ah ok  betatux
[08:00] <Slart> I use firefox live bookmarks for my simple rss-feed
[08:00] <Felip1> well.. any brazilian here?
[08:00] <Elrik> YannTech it says "NO SCAN RESULTS"
[08:00] <soundray> A[D] minS: 'apt-cache show linux-source' tells you what it is
[08:00] <A[D] minS> soundray: so in case if u want to install kernel-source so what i should do?
[08:00] <soundray> !br | Felip1
[08:00] <ubotu> Felip1: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:00] <Felip1> thanks^^
[08:00] <sinister99> kaluna: i have tried putting grub on the same drive and on a different drive, and it errors out either way
[08:00] <YannTech> ok, are you sure you have a wifi near you?
[08:01] <sinister99> kaluna: and it seems that grub is always selected by default, and i can't install lilo
[08:01] <kane77> ubuntu doesnt save my network settings.. anybody can help??
[08:01] <A[D] minS> soundray: ahaaa its kernel-source plus patches .ok thanks alot :D
[08:01] <YannTech> kane77: you can see /etc/network/interfaces
[08:01] <bkudria> if i run update-grub, i get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/370602 , and my menu.1st file has what look like unescaped shell characters.  i've already purged and reinstalled the grub package, which didn't help.  what should i do?
[08:01] <A[D] minS> !bluetooth
[08:01] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:02] <noelferreira> need help configurind ez-ipupdate. any help?
[08:02] <bkudria> if i run update-grub, i get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/370602 , and my menu.1st file has what look like unescaped shell characters.  i've already purged and reinstalled the grub package, which didn't help.  what should i do?
[08:02] <GMWeezel> How can I get my network IP address?
[08:02] <bkudria> GMWeezel: /sbin/ifconfig
[08:02] <soundray> GMWeezel: hostname -i
[08:02] <Hasrat_Usa> a lot of newbie questions today
[08:02] <kane77> YannTech, and? well they are there...
[08:02] <kaluna> sinister99: try it with mounting home on the 2nd drive. You can do all this at the install menu when you partion manually.
[08:03] <Hasrat_Usa> i'm looking for a real problem
[08:03] <GMWeezel> bkudria: Thanks
[08:03] <GMWeezel> soundray: Only gave me my localhost address (127.0.0.1)
[08:03] <klein_> installing a printer with wine help? will it work
[08:03] <YannTech> sorry i go out
[08:03] <sinister99> kaluna: yeah, thats prolly the best thing to do
[08:03] <YannTech> bye all
[08:04] <Wanderer> Anyone know what happened to automatix?
[08:04] <klein_> bad weather i heard
[08:04] <Wanderer> domain been offline a while
[08:04] <goetiaoccultus> anyone use rssowl ?
[08:04] <SinesurfR> hi
[08:04] <soundray> !automatix | Wanderer
[08:04] <ubotu> Wanderer: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:05] <SinesurfR> would anyone mind helping me out with figuring out how to compile a program?
[08:05] <soundray> Wanderer: feisty will make it obsolete, anyway
[08:05] <soundray> !compile | SinesurfR
[08:05] <ubotu> SinesurfR: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:05] <soundray> SinesurfR: what are you compiling?
[08:05] <Wanderer> soundray: ok, taht I can deal with (feisty bit).  I wanted the mplayer/audio codecs mainly
[08:06] <SinesurfR> soundray: http://www.treshna.com/paymaster/requirements/
[08:06] <eobanb> hi everyone, i have a small question.  in gconf-editor, can i use the keybinding <Alt>Space to launch something in global keybindings for metacity? And secondly, I'm using emerald w/ beryl instead of metacity.  will it still work?
[08:06] <kaluna> anyone using vsftpd? need shelp with local user login.
[08:06] <soundray> Wanderer: your best bet is to set up the appropriate repositories by hand or use source-o-matic
[08:06] <smg> hey all
[08:06] <soundray> !easysource | Wanderer
[08:06] <ubotu> Wanderer: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:07] <SinesurfR> esp since it says to specifically use Scons to compile it
[08:07] <Elrik> EUREKA I'M SO HAPPY!!! INTERNET WORKS XOOOO
[08:08] <Elrik> After a whole day of horrible, devil-ish, cruel war towards my Linux Ubuntu
[08:08] <Elrik> twice I wanted to give up
[08:08] <fredl> hey, anybody here ever tried linux-igd?
[08:08] <Elrik> NOW
[08:08] <soundray> SinesurfR: you can install scons from the repos
[08:08] <Elrik> to have a bath. Thanks alot all who helped!
[08:08] <fredl> does linux-igd make a Linux box behave as an upnp aware device?
[08:09] <marshall> does anybody know wth to do with gtkDC?
[08:09] <Wanderer> yeah, I use the source-o-matic
[08:09] <SinesurfR> repos?
[08:10] <fredl> source-o-matic?
[08:10] <soundray> !repos | SinesurfR
[08:10] <ubotu> SinesurfR: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:10] <soundray> !software | SinesurfR
[08:10] <ubotu> SinesurfR: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[08:10] <craigbass1976> I've got UbuntuCE on my son's computer, and I can't ssh into it.   Would squid be blocking?  I installed openssh-server, which I've done on another couple of regular ubuntu boxes, and while they allowed logins, this box doesn't
[08:11] <SinesurfR> but it seems as if I'm going to have to compile it in order to run.  There's no precompiled version
[08:11] <smg> craigbass1976: squid is only managing http
[08:11] <Slart> craigbass1976: I think ssh, as default, doesn't allow connections from the outside.. but it might not be so.. check the config file if it's only listening on the local loopback interface
[08:11] <soundray> SinesurfR: yes, but since it requires scons, and scons is in the ubuntu repositories, you can at least install that instead of compiling it yourself
[08:12] <marshall> does anybody know wth to do with gtkDC?
[08:12] <craigbass1976> Slart, Ahh, perhaps...
[08:12] <soundray> craigbass1976: make sure sshd is running : 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart'
[08:12] <Wanderer> soundray: how about the latest flash for amd64 without automatix?
[08:12] <smg> Slart: craigbass1976 ssh should be running on any external interface, on loopback it makes no sense imho
[08:13] <soundray> Wanderer: I got that by following Kilz's instructions for firefox32 in the forums
[08:13] <sergi1> hello
[08:13] <bob_help> Downloaded a new Dist and get a GRUB error 15 any body hear of that?
[08:13] <sergi1> how to set utf-8 localy...
[08:13] <craigbass1976> soundray, right.  got that.  And yes, the config file (which all I changed was no for root logins) is the stock one that comes with the server.
[08:13] <Slart> smg: it would make sense in a secure-by-default installation..
[08:14] <SinesurfR> cool, thanks :)
[08:14] <_16aR_> is this a place where we can ask help about configuring postfix ?
[08:14] <_16aR_> on ubuntu
[08:14] <smg> Slart: but what to do with ssh on lo0?
[08:14] <Slart> smg: the default installation of apache doesn't make sense either.. at least not the last one I did on debian... it doesn't even start until you remove a line in the config.. just to make people read the config
[08:14] <pantalaimon_> is it possible to copy a physical partition to a lvm's logical volume?
[08:14] <soundray> craigbass1976: did it start successfully? Have you done a "ps aux | grep sshd"? Does 'ssh localhost' work on the machine?
[08:14] <ucordes> !X
[08:14] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:14] <Slart> smg: nothing.. just because you should read the config before you even expose ssh to the outside world
[08:15] <rssn> Everyone: I was wondering if anyone could assist me in figuring out installation and partitioning of hard drive with Ubuntu, first time user. I believe some sort of an 'fdisk' application is supposed to be used to repartition the HDD, but since I'm coming from Win32, it's a whole new universe, pretty confused.
[08:15] <wheels3572> On this website here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19869&package_id=187881&release_id=480300  Do i have to download each file individually to get xfce4.4 or can I just download the xfce4-4.4.0-installer.fun and get all the files it shows here?
[08:15] <craigbass1976> soundray, yes to both.
[08:15] <carebear> hi
[08:15] <Slart> rssn: run the live cd and see if you have gparted installed.. it's a lot like partition magic and similar
[08:15] <soundray> _16aR_: describe the problem here, and repeat every 30 minutes or so. Sooner or later someone will logon who knows your answer
[08:16] <craigbass1976> soundray, I'm checking another box's sshd_config to see any discrepencies.
[08:16] <smg> Slart: sounds misterious to me ;)
[08:16] <empiric> hi all
[08:16] <At0mic_PC> A zip file with a password?
[08:16] <soundray> craigbass1976: assume that sshd_config is fine if you can ssh locally
[08:16] <rssn> slart: I don't believe gparted is installed, but should put it on then.
[08:16] <empiric> am using embeded tagging in html pages which wont work on firefox
[08:16] <At0mic_PC> How would you get around a zip file with a password?
[08:16] <empiric> any idea
[08:16] <soundray> craigbass1976: can you ping both ways? Can you ssh from your son's to the other machine?
[08:17] <noelferreira> people need help configurin ddclient anyone?
[08:17] <craigbass1976> soundray, ok then, what do youthink is wrong?
[08:17] <craigbass1976> Yes, I'm doign it right now.
[08:17] <Slart> rssn: hmm.. run "sudo apt-get install gparted" in a console then.. should install it for you
[08:17] <smg> craigbass1976: try a telnet on port 22
[08:17] <soundray> craigbass1976: could be iptables settings. Have you played with firestarter?
[08:17] <rssn> slart: However, if I am booting off the ubuntu CD at the moment, it would not know where to install gparted, other than cache - should I make arrangements to install ubuntu 'at least somewhere' first?
[08:18] <Slart> rssn: you only need gparted to partition it once.. so if it installs into the live cd memory thing doesn't really matter
[08:18] <craigbass1976> soundray, I didn't even know I had iptables.  I don't see it in /etc/init.d
[08:18] <rssn> slart: gparted is already the newest version, confirmed. I can now probably use it.
[08:19] <soundray> craigbass1976: you might try "grep -r iptables /etc/* 2>/dev/null" for sanity
[08:19] <Slart> rssn: it should be in System, Administration, GNOME partition editor
[08:19] <soundray> craigbass1976: everybody has iptables
[08:19] <craigbass1976> Really?  I didn't think it came with Ubuntu unless you installed it yourself
[08:20] <soundray> craigbass1976: apt-cache show iptables | head -n 2
[08:20] <craigbass1976> soundray, where's the config file for iptables in ubuntu?  I'm used to RH boxes
[08:20] <rssn> slart: Thanks so much, I am now working towards partitioning the HDDs. Do you mind if I ask a few more questions before proceeding?
[08:20] <Slart> rssn: go ahead.. if I didn't like the questions I wouldn't hang out here =)
[08:20] <bob_help> Hello Everybody. I'm new to linux and just downloaded Ubuntu for a laptop and am getting an Error 15 after GRUB starts, can anyone help me
[08:21] <soundray> craigbass1976: the package installs commands and documentation only. To configure it, you would use a front end.
[08:21] <nowhere> Hi, during boot the computer states it failed basic networking. Also when it starts I have no connection. But when I go to Network Settings and deactivate then activate the wireless connection everything works in a few seconds. Any way to have this done automatically?
[08:21] <craigbass1976> soundray, firehol, is that what I start and stop?
[08:21] <ardchoille> Is there a way to put all open apps in tabs on the desktop?
[08:22] <soundray> craigbass1976: but if you haven't done any experiments involving routing/firewalling, this isn't likely to be the problem
[08:22] <ardchoille> Someone told me fluxbox does that, is that true?
[08:22] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: i think it does
[08:23] <Slart> ardchoille: you mean like the taskbar in windows?
[08:23] <rssn> Slart: Thanks then. I'd like to know what the most sensible partitioning scheme is, since you 'mount' devices and can organize them much better than under win32. I currently use 2 physical drives, 250GB + 300GB, total 550GB. One is completely unallocated, and the other has some sort of a 140GB FAT32 partition, that is all.
[08:23] <rssn> I heard that FAT32 is not necessarily the most sound filesystem for ubuntu users, who can choose something else instead, is this true?
[08:23] <craigbass1976> soundray, but I didn't allow 22 through any firewall configs, so that may be the issue exactly.
[08:23] <soundray> craigbass1976: ah, so you do have a firewall utility installed
[08:23] <soundray> craigbass1976: yes, that'll be the answer
[08:23] <ardchoille> Slart: Something like that, yeah.. but I don't use a panel.
[08:23] <Slart> rssn: there are many ways of doing this.. myself I just use one big partition for ubuntu, applications, home-directory and all...but I'm lazy
[08:23] <craigbass1976> soundray, I've only used Ubuntu as a "play" box, and have not dug into where everything is.  RedHat is different (you probably know) and sadly I have gotten used to that...
[08:24] <Slart> rssn: a more.. "professional" way would be to make one partition for home, one for var and one for system itself.. that way logs files won't fill up your system disk
[08:24] <amaan>  hey can anyone help me, i've been trying to get my sound to work for the past 4-5 hours and i've had no luck (mojo was helping me earlier)...?
[08:24] <rssn> Slart: Thanks, so it would make sense to just get a single 250GB partition for starters, and then do whatever else to it after. However, is fat32 acceptible or is there something 'nicer'?
[08:24] <soundray> craigbass1976: 'dpkg -L packagename' may come in handy (package listing)
[08:24] <craigbass1976> soundray, aha, stop firehol and ssh to my heart's content...
[08:24] <Taime1> how can i adjust video settings such as gamma, color and saturation and such?
[08:24] <craigbass1976> soundray, now to find the config, or woudl I be better off using firestarter?
[08:25] <Slart> rssn: I would start with that.. you can always move stuff over to other partitions later if you really want to (even if it takes some work)
[08:25] <craigbass1976> I usually edit a file directly, and people yell saying that I should use the iptables commands instead...
[08:25] <Slart> rssn: if you're a first time linux user, one big partition is easier..
[08:25] <Taime1> i have a laptop, so i cant even set my contrast
[08:25] <Slart> rssn: oh, and one partition for swap
[08:25] <soundray> craigbass1976: I don't know anything about firehol, but the way to find out how it ticks would be to 'dpkg -L firehol' and 'cd /usr/share/doc/firehol' to read the docs there
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> man that gave me a headache..lol
[08:26] <rssn> Slart: I am, but whatever happened to ext3/2, and then linux swap, those are pre-requisites to running things smoothly, right?
[08:26] <bob_help> ?
[08:26] <Slart> rssn: ah.. about file systems.. ext3 is nice and works fine
[08:26] <nowhere> hmmm banisment on networking questions :) ?
[08:26] <bob_help> leave
[08:27] <Slart> rssn: don't use FAT in linux, unless you have to read the drive from windows or something like that
[08:27] <soundray> craigbass1976: iptables sets kernel parameters, so it's the wiser choice
[08:27] <cables> I'm helping my friend install Ubuntu, and he needs to burn the disk. Is there any good, free image burning software for windows that he can use? He doesn't have anything that can burn an image currently.
[08:27] <soundray> craigbass1976: tell the ops if you get yelled at here
[08:27] <Luke> my root filesystem just corrupted really bad. what's a better filesystem I can use to avoid corruption?
[08:27] <nowhere> cables: Nero trial?
[08:27] <rssn> Slart: If I have an FTP server that fetches files from the ext3 system, will Windows users still be able to access the files?
[08:27] <Taime1> there's no gui for changing gamma or color settings?
[08:27] <cables> nowhere, I was hoping I could do better than that... but thanks anywhay
[08:27] <Taime1> cables
[08:27] <soundray> nowhere: repeat your question every once in a while. Sooner or later someone will know the answer
[08:27] <Dr_willis> !ext3
[08:27] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:27] <cables> Taime1, ?
[08:27] <zcat_> Luke: what fs are you using now?
[08:28] <Luke> ext3
[08:28] <Taime1> you need a little tool called... hang on
[08:28] <nowhere> I will, t hanks soundray
[08:28] <soundray> nowhere: ...and have time for you as well
[08:28] <Slart> rssn: yes.. same thing if you use samba for windows file sharing.. other computers on the network don't care what file system you use
[08:28] <Luke> zcat[1] : ext3
[08:28] <craigbass1976> soundray, no, it's in RH type rooms (Fedora, cent, rh) and doesn't bother me, but sometimes people won't answer a question if they don't agree with a general practice of yours.
[08:28] <Taime1> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[08:28] <Taime1> thats it
[08:28] <Dr_willis> rssn,  the fact the files are comming from a linux box and ftp server.. wont affect the data in the files.
[08:28] <Taime1> when you install that, nothing fancy happens, cables
[08:28] <rssn> Dr_willis: Thanks.
[08:28] <eighty_> errr... how do i enable port 8080 on ubuntu? :)
[08:28] <nowhere> sorry i'm just a little frustrated, I like ubuntu a lot, but getting my wireless network up and running seems to be so much trouble :)
[08:28] <rssn> Slart: Okay, possibly the last question, if I have a /dev/hdd1 partition in fat32, how can I mount that from terminal?
[08:28] <Taime1> you just right click the file you want to burn, and it gives you the option to burn an iso image
[08:29] <zcat[1] > Luke: find out what corrupted it; you might have a dodgy drive or something. It won't normally screw up by itself
[08:29] <cables> Taime1, thanks
[08:29] <eighty_> any port 8080 mastas in da house? :) is it an iptables thing?
[08:29] <Taime1> noproblem
[08:29] <Slart> rssn:  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 might work
[08:29] <soundray> craigbass1976: your immediate problem is solved now, isn't it?
[08:29] <MybEvil_> How can I run .sh files?
[08:29] <Dr_willis> rssn,  if ya think about it... most all the fileservers out are NOT running on windows box's with fat32 or ntfs filesystems. ;)
[08:29] <quaal> what in ubuntu can i play http://yage.net:9000 with
[08:29] <quaal> a winamp feed
[08:29] <MybEvil_> It brings them up into text-editor
[08:29] <Slart> rssn: if you want it to be mounted at startup you edit the file /etc/fstab
[08:29] <Dr_willis> quaal,  xmms can do that.
[08:29] <rssn> Dr_willis: Very true.
[08:29] <Taime1> type the file name into terminal
[08:29] <quaal> Dr_willis, hmm
[08:29] <Dr_willis> quaal,  i think :) other players proberl can also.
[08:29] <Taime1> mybeveil
[08:29] <eighty_> any pointers on how to enable ports in ubuntu? in particular, 8080?
[08:29] <MybEvil_> ok
[08:29] <MybEvil_> thanks
[08:29] <Taime1> er...
[08:29] <rssn> Slart: What would I define within fstab, the exact same command?
[08:29] <Taime1> sorry bout the name
[08:30] <MybEvil_> np lol
[08:30] <cables> Taime1, almost as easy burning as in ubuntu :)
[08:30] <soundray> MybEvil_: you don't if you can avoid it
[08:30] <MybEvil_> Most people call me Myb :P
[08:30] <soundray> MybEvil_: what are you installing?
[08:30] <Taime1> it is if you know about that tool, cables
[08:30] <MybEvil_> soundray, it's for Java
[08:30] <hofmann> Hello
[08:30] <sepheebear> eighty_: are you using apache2?
[08:30] <quaal> Dr_willis, yea you're right. i thought i'd tried xmms though. thanks
[08:30] <MybEvil_> for compiling and running
[08:30] <Luke> zcat[1] : how do I find out if it was the drive?
[08:30] <craigbass1976> soundray, yes, now I just want to make it persistent.  I have a samba question, but now that I can ssh in I'm going to get on my box and come back into the chat from there.
[08:30] <Slart> rssn:  oops, change that to "mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1"
[08:30] <eighty_> MybEvil_: yep
[08:30] <cables> Taime1, and there's the problem :)
[08:30] <Dr_willis> quaal,  that a shoutcast stream? or somthing odd?>
[08:30] <hofmann> Is somebofy good in JAVA? Please private me.
[08:30] <quaal> Dr_willis, yea shoutcast
[08:30] <eighty_> sepheebear: yep
[08:30] <soundray> MybEvil_: you should install java from the repos
[08:30] <Taime1> yeah...i cant believe windows doesnt have that stock
[08:30] <rssn> Slart: It's okay, it says only root can do that, and I guess that booting off the Ubuntu Live CD does not qualify as being root, since I can wreak too much havoc as a newbie.
[08:30] <soundray> !java | MybEvil_
[08:30] <ubotu> MybEvil_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:30] <Slart> rssn: take a look at the file.. it's one line per file system... it's not that hard.. or you could read "man fstab"
[08:30] <Dr_willis> quaal,  i go to shoutcast.com and use xmms all the time
[08:31] <soundray> !pm | hofmann
[08:31] <ubotu> hofmann: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[08:31] <Slart> rssn: oh.. just put sudo in front of it.. "sudo mount..... "
[08:31] <eighty_> sepheebear: yeah, apache2
[08:31] <rssn> Slart: If I were to install Ubuntu right now though, should I first define the swap, and the main partitions in gparted, before clicking on that install icon?
[08:31] <zcat[1] > Luke: check /var/log/messages and see if it's getting timeouts or stuff. or use ultimate boot cd and run the diagnostics tools.
[08:31] <quaal> Dr_willis, cool. thanks man
[08:32] <Slart> rssn: you can do it in the install program too.. or in gparted if you want to.. it's really your choice, either is fine
[08:32] <Taime1> i wont ask again, i promise, but is there a gui for changing things like gamma, color, contrast etc on my laptop?
[08:32] <soundray> nowhere: to bring up an interface at boot, for example wlan0, you would normally just add 'auto wlan0' to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:32] <sepheebear> eighty_: sudo echo "Listen 8080" >> /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[08:32] <eighty_> sepheebear: wow... like magic? :) i'll try...
[08:33] <rssn> Slart: Thanks. Will try to just install it then, hopefully will be fine. Before I do that though, are there any parameters you would recommend for a 250GB physical drive (239367MB): i.e. what size the swap partition ought to be, and what of 'var'.
[08:33] <smg> Taime1: i just know to fiddle directly in xorg.conf
[08:33] <soundray> sepheebear: that won't work -- "echo something | sudo tee systemfile" or "sudo sh -c 'echo >systemfile' "
[08:33] <nowhere> thanks soundray, I will try that
[08:33] <__doc__> hi, anybody configured a wacom tablet and gimp? I want to put undo on a stylus key.
[08:33] <Slart> rssn: one old rule for swap says that you should have twice the amount of swap, compared to physical memory.. so 500MB of memory, use 1GB of swap etc
[08:34] <smg> Taime1: take a look at google: "xorg.conf gamma"
[08:34] <iulian_> what is a symlink and how can I create a symlink in Ubuntu 6.10
[08:34] <Taime1> thanks
[08:34] <Taime1> i will
[08:34] <rssn> Slart: So, 512MB memory, 1024MB Swap.
[08:34] <sepheebear> soundray: you're right thanks for the assist!
[08:34] <Slart> rssn: var depends on what you're going to do with the computer... logs, temp files and such goes into /var
[08:34] <Slart> rssn: yes.. that'll be good
[08:34] <rssn> Slart: I'd probably be limited to torrents, videos, music, quake3 (openGL app), and documents etc.
[08:35] <smg> iulian_: symlinks are like this: "ln -s file linktofile"
[08:35] <Slart> rssn: it's probably easier to install it all into one partition for now.. and then after a while you can see how much space your /var dir takes.. then if you feel you want to move it to another partition you can do that
[08:36] <padge> How is it that I don't have traceroute?
[08:36] <eighty_> sepheebear: i want port 8080 for tomcat
[08:36] <rssn> Slart: Very well. So for now I should make a 1024MB Swap and the rest would be ext3 space.
[08:36] <hofmann> Hello, is it possible to grep a foreign text widget with a own java program?
[08:36] <iulian_> smg: Is exactly like a win shortcut? I delete it using rm or is a special command?
[08:36] <eighty_> so do i still want apache listening to port 8080
[08:36] <eighty_> ?
[08:36] <eobanb> what happened to disks-admin in edgy!?
[08:37] <smg> iulian_: similar, yes. use "unlink" on the link
[08:37] <Slart> rssn: sounds good
[08:37] <tuskernini> eobanb, not in there anymore... project is not active enough
[08:37] <smg> iulian_: on some unix-systems a "rm link" deletes not only the link but also the file which was linked to
[08:37] <sepheebear> eighty_: i dont use tomcat but i have apache listening to different ports for different reasons
[08:37] <padge> is traceroute in some tools pack I might not have?  Where is it kept in this distro?
[08:37] <iulian_> smg: Thanks!
[08:38] <Meep> Any people having problems with xcb and java?
[08:38] <tuskernini> eobanb, you can install it if you want...
[08:38] <eighty_> sepheebear: ok, thanks... yeah, i just want my machine to open port 8080, that's all
[08:38] <unop> padge,  tracepath replaces traceroute on ubuntu
[08:38] <eighty_> thought it was a iptables thing?
[08:38] <m0rk> padge: all that stuff can be found in synaptic
[08:38] <iulian_> smg: So is not a good practice to rm link.
[08:38] <padge> unop: Thanks
[08:38] <m0rk> like etherape, wireshark, snort, etc
[08:38] <padge> m0rk: traceroute wasn't found with synaptic
[08:38] <m0rk> !!
[08:38] <Luke> zcat[1] : whats ultimate boot cd?
[08:38] <m0rk> xtraceroute should be
[08:39] <sepheebear> eighty_: well ports.conf will make apache2 listen to the port
[08:39] <m0rk> and subsequent dummy packages
[08:39] <unop> eighty_,  get apache to listen on 8080 then -- i think you add a new port entry in ports.conf
[08:39] <Meep> java: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.
[08:39] <eighty_> sepheebear: but i wasnt tomcat to listen
[08:39] <smg> padge: search for "trace"
[08:39] <eighty_> unop: will that allow tomcat to listen too?
[08:39] <juan_> hy, can i make a question about a recntly buyed epson multifunction
[08:39] <juan_> ?
[08:39] <unop> eighty_,  doesnt tomcat run atop apache?
[08:39] <Vigo> !mount
[08:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:39] <unop> i dunno much about tomcat
[08:39] <padge> m0rk: smg: awesome, thangs guys
[08:39] <eighty_> unop: i think tomcat can be standalone
[08:40] <sepheebear> after that you'd need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/099tomcat-httpd.conf or somesuch file
[08:40] <m0rk> padge: yw
[08:40] <eighty_> hmmm...
[08:40] <smg> juan_: u can ask, maybe someone responds :)
[08:40] <sepheebear> then restart apache
[08:40] <Vigo> I will try the forums, Thank You
[08:40] <juan_> thanks! do you anione knows how to make scanner works?
[08:41] <sepheebear> i dont know what kinda httpd.conf tomcat installs
[08:41] <juan_> xsane recognizes it only if i start it as root
[08:41] <smg> juan_: k, so it is detected. good
[08:41] <rssn> Slart: Is there a way to terminate a program that doesn't seem to be responding ? I started installing NTP servers for time synchronization or somesuch, when the install screen just became dormant.
[08:42] <hak0> juan_: chmod 777 /dev/XXX
[08:42] <m0rk> rssn: from a terminal window
[08:42] <m0rk> type 'sudo top'
[08:42] <rssn> m0rk: Thanks.
[08:42] <m0rk> that will give you root privy
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: do you know how much time i'm gonna waste on this game now?
[08:42] <m0rk> then hit 'shift M'
[08:42] <m0rk> sorts by mem usage
[08:42] <m0rk> kill the bastard process
[08:42] <eighty_> so in general, how do i enable a port on ubuntu?
[08:42] <m0rk> by typing 'k;
[08:43] <juan_> ok, so XXX must be usb or something like that?
[08:43] <m0rk> er 'k'
[08:43] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, depends on how bored you are
[08:43] <jpjacobs> eighty_, run a service on that port
[08:43] <smg> eighty_: just put something on the port
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> well, i have a broken ankle.. so the answer is very
[08:43] <sepheebear> eighty_: in general, you just need to activate a server to listen on that particular port
[08:43] <eighty_> don't have to mess with iptables?
[08:43] <hak0> juan_: it's de device xsane sees when u are root
[08:43] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, it saved me and my sister during a horrible flight
[08:43] <hak0> juan_: check configuration for device
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: i can imagine
[08:43] <shedi> :)
[08:44] <rssn> m0rk: What is the 'signal' to kill with?
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> it reminds me of breakout
[08:44] <smg> rssn: try kill -9
[08:44] <m0rk> rssn: it should auto [15] 
[08:44] <sepheebear> eighty_: just like to enable port 22 for ssh all you need to do is install sshd
[08:44] <smg> rssn: -9 kills alot ;)
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: is there a game like breakout for Linux?
[08:44] <m0rk> if that does not work, do a ctrl-c to kill top
[08:44] <rssn> m0rk: I tried with 1, and it worked ^_^
[08:44] <cables> What are the chances that deleting a file on an NTFS volume in Linux will screw up the partition?
[08:44] <unop> eighty_,  well it seems apache tomcat has eclipsed sun's own -- http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/tomcat/ and it seems to be how everyone nowadays wants to run it .. if you run apache tomcat, then it should be accessible from any ports apache is listening on (subject to access control)
[08:44] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, I don't recall that game
[08:44] <m0rk> then at the command line do a 'kill -9 [process #] 
[08:44] <unop> cables,  small
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> you know, the little thing moved along the bottom, and a ball bounced around, and you bounced the ball up into bricks, to break all the bricks
[08:45] <cables> unop, how small? This is my friend's comp...
[08:45] <eighty_> unop: hmmm... so if i have apache listening to 8080, that should do it
[08:45] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, oh that one
[08:45] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, I haven't seen it on linux
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[08:46] <unop> cables,  i've been running ntfs-3g for a bit over a year now and the drive's used extensively and i've not had a problem (except for something's chkdsk complained about, but those are negligible issues and documented too)
[08:46] <betatux> cables , make a backup first if you want to be sure not to loose any data.
[08:46] <unop> eighty_,  yes
[08:46] <smg> IndyGunFreak: there are lots of games like this for linux, but i dont remember any names
[08:46] <woro2006> i deployed abc.war file in /var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps
[08:47] <unop> !ntfs-3g > cables
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> smg: yea,
[08:47] <woro2006> I can see it in localhost:8180/manager
[08:47] <woro2006> but it says it's not running
[08:47] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, and you can always try cedega to run windows games
[08:47] <woro2006> and when I type localhost:8180/abc
[08:47] <woro2006> it doesn't get mapped
[08:47] <rssn> Everyone: Upon installing Ubuntu, which option is most sensible, to erase entire disc, to use the largest continuous free space, or to manually edit the partition table? I kind of feel 1 and 2 are the same thing...
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: na, its not that important to me
[08:47] <cables> Does ntfs-3g support journalling on ntfs?
[08:47] <rssn> Since I have an empty disk to begin with...
[08:47] <woro2006> it says the requested resource /abc not available
[08:48] <sgtmattbaker> how do I get  an xfs partition formatted for use
[08:48] <unop> cables,  i think thats a question answered in the ntfs-3g faqs
[08:48] <smg> rssn: manually you can delete existing partitions
[08:49] <rssn> smg: What if no partitions currently exist, should I still do manual to get swap etc?
[08:49] <Steve^> What's the difference between Debian and Ubuntu?
[08:49] <smg> rssn: no, i think ubuntu creates a swap for you
[08:50] <smg> rssn: and if it doesn't, quit and run setup again
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> Steve^: not a whole lot, but ubuntu is probably more newbie friendly
[08:50] <rssn> smg: It does create the swap.
[08:50] <unop> Steve^,  ubuntu is derived off of debian .. originally it used the same packages that debian did with minor changes .. but now it seems to maintain it's own
[08:50] <smg> rssn: :)
[08:51] <rssn> smg: Does this sound reasonable:
[08:51] <rssn> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[08:51] <rssn>  partition #1 of IDE2 master (hdc) as ext3
[08:51] <rssn>  partition #5 of IDE2 master (hdc) as swap
[08:51] <smg> rssn: its fine
[08:51] <rssn> smg: It just hasn't told me what size these are going to be, so I'm in the dark.
[08:51] <vox754> rssn, partition manually, come here #vocx
[08:51] <smg> rssn: hmm.. lets wait and see
[08:51] <Pelo> !restricted
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <sgtmattbaker> so nobody knows how to get an xfs partition formatted
[08:52] <Steve^> unop, does that mean I get different things? I assume everything I need is stil available to me? And does it install Gnome by default, or give a choice?
[08:52] <vox754> smg, you may want to join #vocx to help this guy and is partitions
[08:52] <smg> vox754: k
[08:54] <unop> Steve^,  well, some things are different, some arent -- everything you need is a subjective thing :) you'll have most desktop utilities (and plenty of software from repositories you can install later). ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses KDE, xubuntu uses XFCE (there's fluxbuntu too (not officially ubuntu) that uses fluxbox)
[08:54] <mikere> Hmm - my apt-get dist-upgrade finally downloaded all the packages - and then borked part way through installing.  When restarting the upgrade process it said I needed to run another command (like apt-get install -a or something - can't recall exactly)  Here's hoping everything installs correctly, lol.  Looks like firefox and xchat have both upgraded succesfully.
 I can't identify the device for the scanner in /etc, do you know similar names for a scanner?
[08:55] <gpd> problems with edgy mirrors and bzip2 ?
[08:55] <idefix> what does apt stand for?
[08:56] <mikere> unop: you can also just install any desktop manager after you install whatever *ubuntu - I usually install fluxbox after installing ubuntu or kubuntu
[08:56] <Steve^> mikere, and that supplies no conflicts or other problems?
[08:56] <Steve^> I ask becuase installing gnome to my old kde-suse only lead to trouble
[08:56] <gpd> idefix: Advanced Packaging Tool
[08:56] <JamesP> Lo all
[08:56] <unop> mikere,  yes, i know .. why dont you direct that to Steve^ instead eh?
[08:57] <mikere> Steve^: of course not =)  *nix is all about choice
[08:57] <Steve^> But that requires the programs to respect my choice :P
[08:57] <Steve^> I'm planning to switch to KDE and may aswell reinstall as it's fresh anyway, I'm just wondering if I should try Debian
[08:58] <mikere> Steve^: exactly - and I've found most of em will do just that with no problem.  You can run gnome apps under KDE as long as the gnome libraries are available for them
[08:58] <Steve^> does Debian have the same 6 month package structure?
[08:58] <mikere> Steve^: not really - it has a 'it's ready when it's ready' system as far as I can tell
[08:58] <Benny-megabn> hey guys
[08:58] <Benny-megabn> !info
[08:58] <gpd> any mirrors working for people out there?
[08:58] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[08:58] <Steve^> ok, I'd prefer that
[08:59] <unop> Steve^,  ohh no, debian's one is more like every 2 years :)
[08:59] <Steve^> I dislike having to download outside of the package manager to have the new stuff
[08:59] <Steve^> umm, ok...
[08:59] <cables> Steve^, I just got back  here, but if you want to install KDE, just do "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:59] <Qaldune> hi everybody
[08:59] <Qaldune> does anybody know what's wrong with repositories?
[08:59] <yomm>    the next app that steals focus and doesn'i give me the mouse pointer is gonn aget nuked :/  aaaargh
[08:59] <unop> Qaldune,  they're only accessible over the internet??
[09:00] <gpd> Qaldune: good - not just me then :)
[09:00] <mikere> Steve^: yah, it's really nice to just add/update packages you know have been fairly significantly tested and are just a click away
[09:00] <gpd> bzip2 errors with several mirrors for me
[09:00] <Steve^> mikere, but unop just said the opposite thing to you :/
[09:01] <Qaldune> [Waiting for headers]  error for me
[09:01] <unop> Qaldune,  try a different set of mirrors then :)
[09:01] <unop> Steve^,  what'd i say different? :>
[09:01] <mikere> Steve^: I can't see where he disagrees - if you mean about debian we both said about the same thing
[09:01] <klein_> does anyone know if i can use wine to install a dell all in one printer ?
[09:02] <Steve^> you said when it's ready and he said ~ 2 years
[09:02] <superbia> Hi, I keep getting a bad device error message when running graphics programs from console... it starts and all but don't like seing error messages hehe anyone know anything about it? nvidia graphics card
[09:02] <unop> klein_,  i dont see that working, wine is a subsystem to run win32 software . but the printer requires drivers to be loaded into/by the kernel
[09:02] <eighty_> arg... so apache2 is listening to 8080 but foo.com:8080 still times out. thoughts?
[09:03] <mikere> Steve^: that translates into about the same thing - they have no fixed dates and about every 2 years is a good ballpark figure for when it happens
[09:03] <klein_> unop: awwwwww i see
[09:03] <gpd> ok - forgetaboutit - i had multiple entries which caused problems for apt it seems
[09:03] <Steve^> mikere, that's when they update their entire repository to all the new packages?
[09:03] <mikere> eighty_: any firewalling of port 8080?
[09:03] <unop> eighty_,  how do you know apache is listening on 8080?
[09:04] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to make it so that a directory is drwxrwxrwx AND whenever anyone makes a file in there, it is owned by the owner and group that owns the directory?
[09:04] <eighty_> unop: i edited ports.conf and added Listen 8080, then restarted
[09:04] <klein_> unop:ubuntu showes my printer but i don't see any of the drivers
[09:04] <eighty_> mikere: how to check for firewalling on port 8080?
[09:04] <mikere> Steve^: there are updated packages when the individual maintainers have them IIRC - but major distro releases about every 2 years plus or minus
[09:04] <unop> Steve^,  no, they just add new packages to the repository .. it's upto the clients (APT) to use them or not
[09:05] <foobar55> i guess there's no way even for root to just echo a unix user password, since it's not stored plain?
[09:05] <unop> eighty_,  can you access apache via localhost:8080?
[09:05] <NetCruZa> I have a laptop with internal speakers. When i plug in some headphones the sound play in BOTH speakers and headphones. How can i stop this?
[09:05] <Qaldune> so does anyone know if repositories' admins are gonna fix whatsoever it is wrong soon?
[09:05] <eighty_> unop: i'm remote right now
[09:05] <mikere> eighty_: as root type 'iptables -L'
[09:05] <superbia> anyone familiar with this error http://pastebin.ca/370680 ?
[09:05] <Luke> Some of my root filesystem was corrupt and now the gdb login font shows up as boxes. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[09:05] <unop> klein_,  if your printer is detected, it's likely the drivers for the printer are loaded .. i dunno if thsoe drivers include the other functions like fax, scanner, etc
[09:06] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: try a search for "lbreakout2"... its in the repos
[09:06] <Steve^> mikere, if each one individual updates, that's fine.. as having 2 year old packages kinda defeats the point of a central repository
[09:06] <iGama> Trevinho, are u there?
[09:06] <unop> eighty_,  thats not what i asked :) can you access localhost:8080?
[09:06] <eighty_> mikere: http://rafb.net/p/zMwK1u72.html
[09:06] <mikere> eighty_: oh, but if you running web browser on server and still getting same problem - it's probably not firewalling that's the problem.  Also, did you restart apache after config change?
[09:06] <Trevinho> iGama: I am
[09:06] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, will do :)
[09:06] <eighty_> yes, restarted apache after config change
[09:06] <klein_> unop: thank you
[09:06] <eighty_> unop: sorry... :D... one sec
[09:07] <quintin> Anyone want to play some WarcraftII with me?
[09:07] <unop> Steve^,  does it? for most purposes (and the issue of stability) using 2 year old software is actually better
[09:07] <iGama> Trevinho, i wanted to ask u something, i saw u have the amsn svn and the TK/TLC cvs
[09:07] <mikere> Steve^: yah, that's how it works i believe - but you could check debian web site for more info.  I like ubuntu for it's up to date bleeding edge packages and upgrade cycle
[09:07] <eighty_> unop: i can access http://localhost:8080 on my laptop...
[09:07] <iGama> do you have a script to compile them and create the deb Trevinho ?
[09:07] <Trevinho> mh, no
[09:07] <Trevinho> I do it manually
[09:07] <mikere> eighty_: it's not firewalling - at least on the web server
[09:07] <unop> eighty_,  assuming that the laptop is the webserver, are you running a firewall on the laptop?
[09:08] <iGama> hmm ok
[09:08] <eighty_> laptop is not server
[09:08] <conreyt> are there instructions on the forum to "upgrade" to herd 3 from 6.10?
[09:08] <eighty_> :D
[09:08] <eighty_> server is at school, i'm at home...
[09:08] <betatux> !paste
[09:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:08] <Steve^> unop, I don't know if it does.. thats what I'm asking. For my purposes, I like new stuff,2 years ago half the programs I use didn't exists.. or at least not in the same form
[09:08] <unop> eighty_,  man oh man, which machine runs tomcat>?
[09:08] <Trevinho> I mean, there's a debian folder on svn, I've just edited it  a littke, then I just need to do a "debuild binary" to get my deb done
[09:08] <iGama> conreyt,  just : sudo "update-manager -c -d"
[09:08] <NetCruZa> I have a laptop with internal speakers. When i plug in some headphones the sound play in BOTH speakers and headphones. How can i stop this?
[09:08] <eighty_> sorry! server at school runs tomcat
[09:08] <conreyt> iGama: thank ya kindly
[09:08] <crimsun> NetCruZa: jack sense issue. Which driver, which Ubuntu version?
[09:09] <iGama> Trevinho, yep , but and the Tk/TlC ?
[09:09] <eighty_> unop: server at school runs tomcat... i added Listen 8080 to the server's port.conf file and restarted apache2
[09:09] <unop> eighty_,  so why are you doing localhost:8080 on the laptop? :-s  if its on your school network, its likely that their firewall isnt allowing inbound connections to 8080
[09:09] <eighty_> still can't access server.com:8080
[09:09] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hello. my gnome does not start anylonger (kde starts). i hear hose gnome drums, but no splash screen/errors or so... i changed my .fonts-config file (deleted it now) and played with some fonts...what shall i do?
[09:09] <NetCruZa> crimsun: Edgy 6.10, ALSA driver
[09:09] <Trevinho> mhmh... I didn't remember exacly how I got these, but in my repo there are the sources with my diffs I used
[09:09] <crimsun> NetCruZa: no, which _driver_?
[09:10] <eighty_> unop:  sorry about the laptop thing :D hmmm... maybe campus is filtering 8080...
[09:10] <Trevinho> I generated the debian folders using the 8.4 version as base maybe, but I don't remember :P
[09:10] <iGama> lol ok
[09:10] <iGama> thanks :)
[09:10] <Trevinho> anyway it's quite easy if you know a little packaging bases...
[09:10] <NetCruZa> crimsun: Not sure, how can i find out?
[09:10] <crimsun> NetCruZa: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:10] <iGama> Trevinho, i just know a litle :p lol
[09:10] <iGama> learning :)
[09:10] <Trevinho> take the src files if you want
[09:11] <unop> Steve^,  well, debian's philosophy is stability over functionality  .. to debian, it's better to have old software running consistently than to have new software that requires a lot of baby-sitting :)
[09:11] <unop> eighty_,  do you have administrative access to the webserver at school?
[09:11] <eighty_> unop: yep
[09:11] <unop> eighty_,  something like ssh or vnc?
[09:11] <eighty_> ssh
[09:11] <eighty_> with full sudo access
[09:11] <Steve^> unop, in that case, I'll stick to kubuntu
[09:11] <mikere> eighty_: could be campus is filtering that's true.  I'm not sure how to ping or traceroute a specific port to see where it's getting dropped tho
[09:12] <sinister99> ive been trying to install edge amd64.  Ive tried intsalling on two different drives, automatic and manual partitioning, and I always get the error "error loading operating system".  I have the correct drive seleted in the bios.
[09:12] <unop> eighty_,  ok then .. ssh into and access localhost:8080 (if you only have CLI access, use lynx or w3m)
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: you should try it, its a good one.
[09:12] <Kopfgeldjaeger> does nobody want to help me? :-//
[09:12] <cables> !patience | Kopfgeldjaeger
[09:12] <ubotu> Kopfgeldjaeger: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:13] <cables>  Kopfgeldjaeger, sorry, I thought that would do something different
[09:13] <shedi> IndyGunFreak, I've now played a few, and my reflexes aren't what they used to be :)
[09:13] <NetCruZa> crimsun: 0 snd_hda_intel
[09:13] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ^^
[09:13] <IndyGunFreak> shedi: mine are still sharp, but its a little harder witht he mouse, instead of the old paddle controller
[09:13] <eighty_> unop: whoa... ok, that worked via localhost using w3m
[09:14] <black-town> salut !!!!!!!
[09:14] <ompaul> Kopfgeldjaeger, actually, what is it doing if it does not work?
[09:14] <rssn> Everyone: Do M-Audio soundcards work properly with Ubuntu, or is it eternal pain to set one up?
[09:14] <ompaul> !fr | black-town
[09:14] <ubotu> black-town: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:14] <eighty_> it didn't resolve to tomcat though, just the default page for apache
[09:14] <unop> eighty_,  you sure you connected to port 8080? :>
[09:14] <Costel> black-town:esti roman?
[09:14] <eighty_> w3m http://localhost:8080
[09:15] <eighty_> unop: w3m http://localhost:8080
[09:15] <Kopfgeldjaeger> @ ompaul Well, i enter username/password in GDM, press enter, i see the usual blue background (changed theme), i hear the gnome drums and it "freezes", but i can go to the TTYs
[09:15] <ryanakca> what's the quickest way to get 12GB of home dir from point A to point B... all on my network... Hard drive from A wont fit into B and vice versa. SFTP? FISH? FTP? HTTP? should I waste an eternity running bzip2 -9 on it before transfering?
[09:15] <unop> eighty_,  so, apache is listening on 8080 then .. from this machine can you telnet to port 8080 on the server
[09:15] <darkstar> Guys I have art manager allowing only download of splash screen. Can anyone tell me how to simply install them?
[09:15] <NetCruZa> crimsun: That command have the following aoutput: 0 snd_hda_intel
[09:15] <Costel> my fstab is broken
[09:15] <Costel> :(
[09:16] <Costel> !fstab
[09:16] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:16] <Hammwell> ryanakca: I've used rsync to move lots of files over network. seems to work well. i think most I moved was a few hundred MB tho. shouldnt matter tho.
[09:16] <unop> ryanakca,  FTP would probably give you the best results .. and no, dont compress the contents before transferrring, that'll slow things down drastically
[09:16] <eighty_> unop: so telnet foo.edu:8080, right?
[09:16] <black-town> !fr
[09:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:17] <feitosa> dfghdght
[09:17] <crimsun> NetCruZa: so you need current hg alsa-driver; see the bottom of http://www.alsa-project.org/download.php
[09:17] <unop> eighty_,  errm, that'd depend on your implementation of telnet
[09:17] <ryanakca> unop: kk, thanks
[09:17] <eighty_> heh, k
[09:17] <ryanakca> Hammwell: how would I rsync it?
[09:17] <eighty_> checkin...
[09:17] <darkstar> Sorry I meant login manager artworkm not splash screens
[09:17] <_Jonathan_> are there any good strategy games for Linux, like age of empires or red alert?
[09:17] <NetCruZa> Okay, will look at it
[09:18] <unop> eighty_,  but yea .. telnet foo.edu at port 8080 .. thats the idea :)
[09:18] <abcdef> holy cow , ubuntu is huge
[09:18] <abcdef> where are you people come from
[09:18] <abcdef> lol
[09:18] <Mega_Slayer> where am I from?
[09:19] <mistone> ubuntu is 600 megs... oh that kind of huge lol
[09:19] <abcdef> yes
[09:19] <Hammwell> ryanakca, well ours has ssh set up so i do "rsync -av -e ssh [dirs to copy]  root@otherhost.com:/path/to/targetdir
[09:19] <craigbass1976> abcdef, Ubuntu is huge?  The OS or the chat room?
[09:19] <Thug-N-Me> does anyone know a good package that allows me to edit subtitles (times) ?
[09:19] <Mega_Slayer> haha yeah, I'm from Canada
[09:19] <yell0w> !offtopic
[09:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:19] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to make it so that a directory is drwxrwxrwx AND whenever anyone makes a file in there, it is owned by the owner and group that owns the directory and is set rwxrwxrwx?
[09:19] <Mega_Slayer> eeh, I not sure to both questions myself...
[09:20] <craigbass1976> I'm sharing it out via samba and am having trouble with windows folks being able to make changes to files.
[09:20] <eighty_> unop: no, can't telnet to foo.edu 8080
[09:20] <sepheebear> craigbass1976: i think you want some functionality that the sticky bit gives
[09:20] <Kopfgeldjaeger> what do you think i shall do now? :-/
[09:20] <ryanakca> Hammwell: hmm... I think running ssh would make it take much longer... so... rsync -av root@192.168.1.102:/home/ryan/.kde                    on this machine to copy that machine's .kde to here?
[09:20] <sepheebear> craigbass1976: man chmod
[09:20] <Mega_Slayer> craig have you tried to go in properties with superuser settings and give all of the premissions?\
[09:20] <ryanakca> s/root@192.168.1.102/ryan@192.168.1.102
[09:20] <Mega_Slayer> yeah that too
[09:21] <Thug-N-Me> a package for fixing timing for subtitles
[09:21] <unop> craigbass1976,  i dont think that is possible out of the box (you could have something (a script perhaps) scan the contents of the directory and change permissions/ownership as and when needed)
[09:21] <oij> How do I make X start automaticly?
[09:21] <unop> eighty_,  it looks like your school has a firewall then .. if you really must access 8080 on that server now, you can setup a SSH tunnel
[09:21] <craigbass1976> unop and sepheebear, or oes it have something to do with the unix users' unmask?
[09:21] <finalbeta> Can I make the gnome multimedia keys control amarak is staid of rhythmbox?
[09:21] <Hammwell> ryanakca: probably ... i only really know the syntax I gave as thats what I learned with. not sure how the authentication would work without ssh.
[09:22] <NetCruZa> crimsun: Should i download ALSA-Driver Repository (alsa-driver)
[09:22] <eighty_> unop: time too google 'ssh tunnel' :D
[09:22] <thianpa> hi. How do i install a .rpm file in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[09:22] <ryanakca> hmm... kk, thanks
[09:22] <crimsun> NetCruZa: you need alsa-kernel and alsa-driver from current hg, yes.
[09:22] <cables> !alien | thianpa
[09:22] <ubotu> thianpa: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:22] <goetiaoccultus> !mythtv
[09:22] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[09:22] <highneko> I have edgy installed and I plan in installing fiesty too for testing. Will the feisty setup screw with grub or will it play nice with edgy?
[09:22] <sepheebear> craigbass1976: are you trying to create a dropbox type of directory
[09:23] <unop> craigbass1976,  in anycase, this isnt the right way to setup samba .. yes check out the umask directive for samba as per samba.org
[09:23] <unop> craigbass1976,  samba's umask is a little different to unix's umask
[09:23] <robert_> I can't use my framebuffer device
[09:24] <craigbass1976> unop, What do you suggest then?  I just want a wide open share on a private network.
[09:24] <robert_> (I'm in console atm, and would like to watch video)
[09:25] <Monkier_> Is there any place in a user's home dire I can store .desktop files that gnome-menu will read other than those in /usr/share/applications?
[09:25] <craigbass1976> robert_, I saw an abbreviated star wars movie once done in text...
[09:25] <unop> craigbass1976,  errm, is this an open share (i.e. via guest) or do users need to authenticate themselves to logon to it?
[09:25] <robert_> craigbass1976- that's nice.
[09:25] <craigbass1976> unop, guest ok
[09:25] <Monkier_> dir* // This could get lovely-messy.
[09:25] <robert_> I still want my damned framebuffer to work
[09:25] <robert_> heh
[09:25] <crimsun> Monkier_: .local/share/applications
[09:25] <GMWeezel> Is there an application for converting AVI, MPEGs and other video formats to Quicktime for Ubuntu?
[09:25] <Monkier_> crimsun: Gracias.
[09:26] <crimsun> de nada
[09:26] <sepheebear> Monkier_: ~/.local/share/applications/
[09:26] <unop> craigbass1976,  if everyone logs on as guest, i cant see why you are having problems .. are you saying guest cant even change his own files?
[09:26] <NetCruZa> crimsun: Just ran the following command, don't know if it is right: "rsync -avz --delete rsync://alsa.alsa-project.org/hg your_directory"
[09:26] <oij> How do I make X start automaticly after a reboot?
[09:26] <the-erm> GMWeezel: ffmpeg should work, but I don't know everything about it, you can always google it.
[09:26] <mykhul> whats up with php?
[09:26] <crimsun> NetCruZa: sure
[09:26] <unop> oij,  ensure your display manager is run at startup ?? usually GDM or KDM
[09:27] <the-erm> mykhul: other than the default php.ini nothing that I can tell..
[09:27] <mykhul> php.net is blank and i get sent to #overflow when i try to join #php
[09:27] <GMWeezel> the-erm: thanks
[09:27] <abcdef> how do we set root password people?
[09:27] <foutrelis> abcdef: sudo passwd
[09:27] <sepheebear> GMWeezel: any special reason they need to be Quicktime format?
[09:27] <unop> foutrelis,  abcdef you dont need a root password -- use !sudo instead
[09:27] <GMWeezel> sepheebear: To play them on my Wii.
[09:27] <daisy> aaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:28] <craigbass1976> unop, no, gues can, but if the user on the ubuntu box makes, or saves changes to, a file, then the others can't access it except for read only.
[09:28] <foutrelis> unop: I agree, but it's nice to know how to set a password :)
[09:28] <sepheebear> caught myself i was just gonna ask what's Wii?
[09:28] <GMWeezel> sepheebear: Eventually I hope to some kind of local HTTP server set up that will convert my videos to FLV on the fly or something but that's wishful thinking right now.
[09:28] <the-erm> Here in the US daylight savings time has changed, does anyone know if ubuntu will change it on the first week of april now or not?
[09:28] <daisy> voce fala  ingleis
[09:28] <vox754> tuskernini, hey you there?
[09:28] <GMWeezel> the-erm: If you set it to sync with time servers, it should change correctly.
[09:29] <NetCruZa> I need to program in C++, on Windows i used "Bloodshed Dev-C++" what is a good Linux alternative for that?
[09:29] <unop> foutrelis,  it's not advisable (in here atleast) . you tend to upset the ops
[09:29] <abcdef> /join #vmware
[09:29] <abcdef> ooop
[09:29] <foutrelis> unop: Sorry, didn't know :(
[09:29] <bluntz> anybody else running paltalk ?
[09:30] <abcdef> bluntz, i do
[09:30] <Silver> greetings
[09:30] <bluntz> rooms list is blank for me
[09:30] <sinister99> ive been trying to install edge amd64.  Ive tried intsalling on two different drives, automatic and manual partitioning, and I always get the error "error loading operating system".  I have the correct drive selected in the bios.
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[09:30] <yell0w> ewwwww   windoze :P
[09:30] <bluntz> yes
[09:30] <Thug-N-Me> hmm anyone using libsubtitles-perl - Perl extension for fixing timing for subtitles or subtitleeditor - GTK+ tool to edit subtitles ?
[09:30] <abcdef> yes, it won't work
[09:31] <abcdef> lol
[09:31] <ztomiccomputers> anyone know how to remove the Suspend and Hibernate buttons on Edgy with Gnome when power button is clicked?
[09:31] <bluntz> other funtions seem ok
[09:31] <pirate-king> anybody got a good link for a bootable linux floppy
[09:31] <unop> craigbass1976,  ok, it's a ownership issue .. you need to have the guest account and the user in the same group and ensure that the group has write access over the files . it should be ok then
[09:31] <bluntz> I tried the gaim pt package
[09:31] <bluntz> but no luck
[09:32] <foutrelis> pirate-king: try http://www.bootdisk.com/
[09:32] <pirate-king> thanks
[09:32] <foutrelis> np
[09:32] <vox754> sinister99, you can search your problem on google. The basic tips are to unplug your drives, plug them again, change a few options in the BIOS, or even reset it with jumper caps.
[09:32] <endryus> hallo all. I need some help for a USB modem. someone can help me?
[09:33] <yccheok> hi, is there any good ftp software in ubuntu?
[09:33] <Qaldune> don't ask to ask endryus
[09:33] <vox754> !ask > endryus
[09:33] <Kopfgeldjaeger> @ ompaul Well, i enter username/password in GDM, press enter, i see the usual blue background (changed theme), i hear the gnome drums and it "freezes", but i can go to the TTYs
[09:33] <sepheebear> yccheok: ncftp is a good ncurses client
[09:33] <foutrelis> yccheok: As a client I like gftp and as a server I have tried proftpd
[09:33] <betatux> yccheok, in case you use firefox as your webbrowser you might want to install FireFTP , an addon for Firefox
[09:33] <endryus> I have a chello connection with a ARRIS TOUCHSTONE TM402B modem
[09:34] <NetCruZa> I need to program in C++, on Windows i used "Bloodshed Dev-C++" what is a good Linux alternative for that?
[09:34] <Kopfgeldjaeger> kdevelop/eclipse
[09:34] <sepheebear> NetCruZa: vim
[09:34] <Meshezabeel> my sound has stopped working, how can I go about fixing it?
[09:34] <NetCruZa> sepheebear: vim?
[09:34] <Kopfgeldjaeger> vim is kewl
[09:34] <bluntz> alsaconf
[09:34] <ompaul> Kopfgeldjaeger, sorry I thought I had answered you after you said that, sorry, what I was going to say was that the first test I would do is prove that it is not GNOME but .gnomeX that is causing the problem by setting up a second user to test it
[09:34] <sepheebear> yes the best IDE ive ever used
[09:34] <NetCruZa> Okay, i'll try to google it
[09:35] <blue> is there an easy way to switch from utf-8 to iso8859?
[09:35] <Meshezabeel> what would cause sound to just stop working?
[09:35] <sepheebear> NetCruZa: vim is installed already
[09:35] <NetCruZa> it is?
[09:35] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: if, for instance, you muted something.
[09:35] <sepheebear> sure if its a typical ubuntu install
[09:35] <NetCruZa> sepheebear: nice!
[09:35] <endryus> I can get the connection to work
[09:35] <yccheok> soli, i mean is there any good ftp client software in ubuntu?
[09:35] <ompaul> Kopfgeldjaeger, if it okay for user2 then the problem likes in something you did in the .gnomeX space more than likely so I would tarball up your home directory move it somewhere else if you have the space
[09:35] <craigbass1976> unop, I think like you said earlier that it's got to do with samba's umask.  I forgot that I have OReilly's SAMBA book, and I think I foun what I need in that.
[09:35] <xtknight> vim is a comfortable text editor (though i prefer nano)
[09:35] <bluntz> then save with alsactl store
[09:35] <xtknight> neither is an IDE
[09:35] <foutrelis> endryus: I got my Sagem F@st 840 adsl modem working in Edgy using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201127
[09:35] <Monkier_> yccheok: Hate to butt in, but gFTP?
[09:36] <Meshezabeel> crimsun, I didn't change any sound controls
[09:36] <sepheebear> what constitutes IDE?
[09:36] <endryus> I will have allok
[09:36] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: it doesn't matter whether _you_ did it yourself.
[09:36] <Jrabbit> I need help setting up ndiswrapper
[09:36] <Monkier_> VIM can be tailored to be an IDE, though never a complete one.
[09:36] <foutrelis> endryus: I am not sure if it will work for you but I can't sugest anything else. Good luck :)
[09:36] <Qaldune> jrabbit what's the prob
[09:36] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: pastebin the required info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:36] <NetCruZa> But maybe something more with a GUI, and where text changes color and so... And where i can just press a button to compile and run it
[09:37] <xtknight> sepheebear: there probably isn't a stark definition of it.  imo, an IDE contains an easy shortcut for compiling and generally debugging/step-thru tools
[09:37] <unop> craigbass1976,  well, the umask can help -- but if the user creates a file in that directory, he and his group own the file and guest wont have access to it (unless it is world readable/writable etc)
[09:37] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: bash doesn't recognise it
[09:37] <ompaul> Kopfgeldjaeger, then I would try some simple things like removing .gnome and .gnome2 and logging in again and stuff like that worst case you have to live with the data from the tarball and a new localusename
[09:37] <Qaldune> jrabbit: ??? what error do you get?
[09:37] <xtknight> also syntax checking, though i think vim has that
[09:38] <Monkier_> Eclipse, Ajunta, and Geany are all nice.
[09:38] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: it says its not recognized.
[09:38] <rssn> Everyone: How do I select my M-Audio revolution and not my on-board C-Media device to be the default, for audio playback?
[09:38] <bluntz> do dmesg
[09:38] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: I did a fresh install of Edgy
[09:38] <vox754> Monkier_, have you heard of Crimson Editor or Emerald Editor?
[09:38] <Qaldune> jrabbit: locate ndiswrapper | grep bin
[09:38] <xtknight> personally I just use gedit and manually compile on commadn line with a gcc cmd, that's the most convenient for me as a matter of fact
[09:38] <Monkier_> vox754: Only of the former, Crimson.
[09:38] <xtknight> but i'm not making big programs either
[09:39] <xtknight> i can see a point where i'd need to get a real IDE
[09:39] <Qaldune> jrabbit: and see take not of where is the binary
[09:39] <xtknight> can eclipse do C?
[09:39] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: Ok I'll have ot reboot
[09:39] <stjepan> yay this rocks: http://pix.nofrag.com/84/41/392dde2c9642c10993caeb2738eb.jpeg
[09:39] <Qaldune> jrabbit you don't have to reboot to do that
[09:39] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: Yeah I do
[09:39] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: I'm on windows
[09:39] <xtknight> stjepan: suse?
[09:39] <stjepan> xtknight, yes
[09:39] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: I have NO NETWORKING on Ubuntu
[09:39] <tuskernini> stjepan, cool .. what is it?
[09:40] <stjepan> xtknight, slab menu sucks with ubuntu
[09:40] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: Thats why I neeed to use it <_
[09:40] <Qaldune> jrabbit what card/usb dongle do you have?
[09:40] <stjepan> tuskernini, gnome menu (slab) in my opensuse 10.2
[09:40] <xtknight> stjepan: what is 'slab' ?  is it something you can install on other distros?
[09:40] <stjepan> slab is suse's gnome menu
[09:40] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: Linksys WUSB 11 v 2.8
[09:40] <stjepan> that's what you can see on the screenshot ;)
[09:40] <tuskernini> stjepan, i saw it at a friend using upensuse... is it loadable in ubuntu?
[09:41] <Zakir> The SLED menu is also available for ubuntu as a part of compiz.
[09:41] <ompaul> stjepan, why did a SuSE window make sense in a ubuntu support channel
[09:41] <stjepan> xtknight, you can install it in ubuntu, but it doesn't work that well there
[09:41] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: I have done it in Dapper
[09:41] <xtknight> i think it looks good, but in use i find Ubuntu's menu just dandy
[09:41] <stjepan> Zakir, compiz?? it's not a part of it
[09:41] <xtknight> i've used both
[09:41] <stjepan> ompaul, it's linux
[09:41] <xtknight> i also dislike Windows XP's new menu style (vs. old win2k style)
[09:41] <Zakir> stjepan: it used to be hosted as a part of compiz through their repos...
[09:42] <xtknight> well anyway this should be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic , we're all guilty :)
[09:42] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: BBL
[09:42] <ompaul> stjepan, this is a ubuntu support channel not a chat room for that there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:42] <stjepan> xtknight, in ubuntu slab doesn't work well... bad control center, no networking info, cannot install/uninstall stuff through it
[09:42] <stjepan> ompaul, is this really offtopic?
[09:42] <Qaldune> jrabbit wait asec
[09:42] <stjepan> Zakir, that was a really bad package then...
[09:42] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: Ok.
[09:42] <ompaul> stjepan, yes, it is not a ubuntu support question
[09:43] <theidiotthatisme> stjepan? What about USP?
[09:43] <stjepan> I personally don't like it... it's not that useful
[09:43] <Qaldune> stjepan is showing as a cool feature from other distro.. don't blame him plz
[09:43] <Qaldune> showing us*
[09:43] <benkong2> any xen folks here?
[09:43] <Zakir>  stjepan: there were some major issues with the ubuntu release of it and I think that QuinnStorm made some changes to make it more compatible with ubuntu.
[09:43] <abcdef> how do i set root password for ubuntu? when i install It doesn't ask me for root password
[09:43] <xtknight> they just don't take well to discussing other distros here, that's all
[09:43] <theidiotthatisme> stjepan: I think with the new control center it might not be as useful
[09:44] <Pici> !root | abcdef
[09:44] <ubotu> abcdef: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:44] <sepheebear> abcdef: sudo passwd
[09:44] <theidiotthatisme> abcdef: The root password is the password you created for your first user.
[09:44] <qxov> hi
[09:44] <Qaldune> jrabbit: i'm sorry the site i wanted to check for you is off...
[09:44] <sepheebear> abcdef: but why the need to set a password for root?
[09:44] <Qaldune> jrabbit: reboot and try to find the binary
[09:44] <Jrabbit> Qaldune: allrighty
[09:44] <cables> theidiotthatisme, abcdef, no it's not. There is no root password by default
[09:45] <Jrabbit> Then run it right?
[09:45] <Zakir> theidiotthatisme:: not necessarily...
[09:45] <Monkier_> theidiotthatisme: There is no root password by default, sudo model just allows for any under the group 'sudoers' to gain super-user privs in using their own password.
[09:45] <abcdef> cables> yes, how do i set it
[09:45] <theidiotthatisme> Oops, I apologize :-) My misunderstanding!
[09:45] <bruenig> !sudo
[09:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:45] <Qaldune> jrabbit: yes
[09:45] <cables> !root | abcdef
[09:45] <ubotu> abcdef: please see above
[09:45] <abcdef> it doesn't work
[09:45] <cables> abcdef, you don't need it
[09:45] <theidiotthatisme> Sorry cables, Zakir, and Monkier_
[09:45] <qxov> Who knowns, how I can change progressbar color in gtk+?
[09:46] <abcdef> thanks guys
[09:46] <stjepan> uhh...huh... I'm back
[09:46] <abcdef> it works now lol!! :)
[09:46] <brendan_> Hello, How do i reconfigure my X server using dpkg
[09:46] <xtknight> brendan_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:46] <brendan_> thankyou
[09:46] <AzRider> just ran the cd, have ubuntu but, screen is spasing, everything jumping around??
[09:47] <vox754> Qaldune, you got experience with ndiswrapper?
[09:47] <ALMimoni> ubuntu start with out windows borders, how can i fix it?
[09:48] <Phasor> I've burnt the Ubuntu 6.10 CD and am currently running in Live CD mode. I am trying to install Ubuntu onto my harddisk and am at the partitioning stage. I decided to resize my 200GB partition into 2, with one of them being the old Windows install and the new one for Ubuntu. I set the Ubuntu partition to be 33% of the disk (60.8GB). It's been resizing it for about half an hour now. Is this normal?
[09:48] <Qaldune> vox754 yep
[09:49] <blaze> Hey all,
[09:49] <ALMimoni> ubuntu starts with out windows borders, how can i fix it?
[09:50] <Kopfgeldjaeger> do u use beryl?
[09:50] <ALMimoni> yes
[09:50] <Kopfgeldjaeger> thats easy2fix
[09:50] <gop> !nubuntu
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <orangefly> make sure window decoration is checked....
[09:50] <vox754> Phasor, I resized a 80 GB NTFS to 30 GB, and I don't remember if it took that long. I think it may be normal. You defragmented right?
[09:50] <gop> any here use nubuntu
[09:50] <MybEvil_> I still can't get java to work on ubuntu :)
[09:50] <Kopfgeldjaeger> and you have a nvidia card, don't you?
[09:50] <MybEvil_> :(**
[09:50] <Kopfgeldjaeger> http://nlindblad.org/2007/01/28/no-window-borders-with-beryl-and-nvidia-aiglx/
[09:51] <AzRider> anyone?
[09:51] <betatux> I'm getting a white skydome in beryl when i select a skydome picture , any ideas ?
[09:51] <Kopfgeldjaeger> maybe the file's too big?
[09:51] <Phasor> I didn't defragment right before running Ubuntu, but I did a while ago, besides I haven't deleted a lot of stuff anyway
[09:51] <orangefly> is your skydome pic a png....???....
[09:51] <blaze> !mail
[09:51] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[09:51] <lisapc> anyone know how to create a rescue partition and have ability to restore from a hidden rescue partition if needed?
[09:52] <blaze> !email
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <Phasor> Is that why it is taking a while, it's defragmenting the Windows partition?
[09:52] <ALMimoni> Kopfgeldjaeger: i'm not set beryl to start with startup programs.
[09:52] <mjbjr> later this afternoon, I'm upgrading (total install) a friend's computer to the latest ubuntu.  I don't follow ubuntu... are there any known gotcha's?  tips?  other?
[09:53] <vox754> Phasor, I defragmented like three times in a row before resizing. I don't think it is defragmenting but it may be a reason. Now, you didn't hear this from me, but I prefer Knoppix Live CD to partition.
[09:53] <Juhaz> Phasor, perhaps. it's not defragmenting as such, but if the partition is fragmented, it may not be able to move large consequential chunks of data without arranging space for it first
[09:53] <ALMimoni> ubuntu start with out windows borders, how can i fix it?
[09:53] <sceadugenga> hi, how does one change the TCP window size in ubuntu?
[09:53] <Qaldune> mjbjr get a nice sources.list
[09:53] <Phasor> Thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought about defragging as a possible explanation
[09:53] <unop> sceadugenga,  that'd be a linux thing not ubuntu thing :)
[09:54] <orangefly> ALMimoni: is window decoration checked....???....
[09:54] <sceadugenga> ok, so how do I change it though?
[09:54] <betatux> orangefly, Oh it must be a .png ? k i'm using jpg's , let me check that
[09:54] <mjbjr> Qaldune: is that a repository list?  where do I get such a thing?  find out more?
[09:54] <Qaldune> mjbjr take a look a ubuntu-guide.org to install graphics drivers or codecs or whatever
[09:54] <Kopfgeldjaeger> it should work with PNG ,too
[09:54] <Qaldune> mjbjr yes it is
[09:54] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ah
[09:54] <mjbjr> ah  thanks
[09:54] <Kopfgeldjaeger> i mean jpg
[09:54] <ALMimoni> orangefly: i dont know :(
[09:54] <Qaldune> mjbjr wait a sec
[09:54] <mjbjr> k
[09:54] <Phasor> Oh well, it doesn't matter, I can leave the computer on until about 11:30PM GMT, while I watch Al Murray's Happy Hour (brilliant program by the way, if your in the UK I recommend you try it, it's on ITV1 later tonight)
[09:54] <orangefly> i think jpg's are supposed to work, but i can only get png's to work....
[09:55] <TheftOfLife> Is there a way to tell nvidia xorg (kubuntu) to change resolution without logging out? ctrl+alt++ isn't working and I have multiple modes available.
[09:55] <mjbjr> Qaldune: there is no ubuntu-guide.org
[09:55] <Qaldune> mjbjr http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#General_Notes
[09:55] <dougb> does anyone have experience with KVM?
[09:55] <mjbjr> ah
[09:55] <Qaldune> look for repositories
[09:55] <orangefly> beryl manager>visual effects>window decoration
[09:55] <dougb> i mean LVM
[09:55] <Qaldune> you're right i was wrong with that address
[09:56] <paradoxx> What is the current state of the ntfs driver for ubuntu? Can I write safely ntfs parititons now?
[09:56] <mjbjr> Qaldune: thanks for the help
[09:56] <CPUnerdX> org
[09:56] <CPUnerdX> argh
[09:56] <Qaldune> paradoxx ntfs linux drivers have just come out some days ago
[09:56] <cables> When I lock the screen, my screensaver sometimes shows up... but not always. Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:56] <foutrelis> paradoxx: First stable ntfs-3g version was released recently :)
[09:56] <ALMimoni> ubuntu starts without windows borders, how can i fix it?
[09:56] <vox754> TheftOfLife, I'm not completely sure, but I think the CTRL+ALT++ is disabled by default, and you need to activate it the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Not sure.
[09:57] <orangefly> beryl manager>visual effects>window decoration
[09:57] <Qaldune> paradoxx look for ntfs3g
[09:57] <unop> sceadugenga,  http://proj.sunet.se/E2E/tcptune.html http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/other/ip-sysctl.txt
[09:57] <Meshezabeel> crimsun, my pastebin for sound problem: http://pastebin.com/888137
[09:57] <sceadugenga> ok, thanks
[09:57] <Qaldune> mjbjr you're welcome
[09:57] <paradoxx> thx
[09:57] <tfault> How do i select the default ALSA sound-catd
[09:57] <tfault> card*
[09:58] <orangefly> ALMimoni: beryl manager>visual effects>window decoration.....is it checked....???....
[09:58] <paradoxx> Are any of you guys useing it?
[09:58] <Kopfgeldjaeger> oh man... i want my gnome to work :'(
[09:58] <kekko_> hi all
[09:59] <vox754> paradoxx, some guys say it is safe. I haven't tried it. It may never be safe enough as it remains proprietary.
[09:59] <kekko_> can somebody remind me where to check hardware profile of my machine in shell?
[09:59] <paradoxx> vox754: kk, thx man
[09:59] <ALMimoni> orangefly: yes
[09:59] <Qaldune> vox754 ntfs3g headline was now it is safe to write on ntfs partitions running linux :)
[10:00] <unop> kekko_,  lshw, hwinfo, lspci, lsusb
[10:00] <orangefly> sorry....that was my problem an hour ago....thought it could be the same thing....
[10:00] <kekko_> thanks unop!
[10:00] <orangefly> if you have an nvidia card, there is another fix i've seen....
[10:00] <vox754> Qaldune, what about that other fuse.
[10:01] <TheftOfLife> command line tool to change x resolutions (answering my own question): gvidm
[10:01] <Qaldune> what fuse?
[10:01] <unop> ntfs3g runs atop fuse
[10:01] <bkervaski> Anyone have know of a faq that will let me configure an ipsec tunnel w/ubuntu?
[10:01] <Meshezabeel> can anyone help with a sound problem, my sound used to work, but doesn't anymore, my pastebin is at: http://pastebin.com/888137
[10:01] <vox754> unop, so fuse and ntfs3g are basically the same? I have no experience with that.
[10:01] <Juhaz> TheftOfLife, tried "xrandr"?
[10:02] <Kioshen> bkervaski, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPSecHowTo
[10:02] <bkervaski> Thanks, Kioshen.
[10:02] <Juhaz> vox754, fuse is a kernel framework for writing user-space filesystem drivers
[10:02] <unop> vox754,  ahh no .. fuse is the subsystem that all these esoteric filesystems use as their base -- things like ntfs-3g, sshfs, ftpfs, etc
[10:03] <Juhaz> vox754, and ntfs3g is an userspace filesystem that uses fuse
[10:04] <Scoaz> m'aurait-on lachement kick ?
[10:04] <vox754> unop, Juhaz so I could just write my own filesystem with fuse?
[10:04] <unop> sure
[10:04] <unop> vox754,  absolutely
[10:05] <mjr> vox754, 'course; you can of course write your own filesystem also without fuse, but it does make certain things easier
[10:05] <YangYin> does anyone know how i can change the options i get when i right mouse click on the desktop
[10:05] <vox754> mjr, unop well, seems interesting, but again, no experience with that.
[10:05] <GMWeezel> How can I change the default application for files?
[10:06] <Kioshen> YangYin, have you tried going in system>preferences>mouse ?
[10:06] <calamari> hi
[10:06] <n3rrd> hmmm... I just reinstalled Ubuntu with the alternate install disc.  I don't remember it asking me to set up a username/password.  What do I use as one if it didn't ask?
[10:06] <YangYin> Kioshen: yes
[10:06] <calamari> how do I get the numerical mode for a file?
[10:07] <Kioshen> calamari, do you mean it's permissions bit ?
[10:07] <calamari> Kioshen: yes
[10:07] <n3rrd> Any ideas?
[10:07] <Elrik> Hey, I want to install wireless network assistant, but since i don't have a connection to the internet on my ubuntu linux computer i have to do it manually, but i have no idea what on this page i'm supposed to download, help please.
[10:07] <Elrik> http://wlassistant.sourceforge.net/
[10:07] <foutrelis> n3rrd: It must have asked you.. for a Full Name, Username and Passowrd (for the first user). :)
[10:08] <foutrelis> *Password
[10:08] <Kioshen> calamari, in the gui i don't know in the terminal it's a simple ls -l
[10:08] <steelb> how do i uninstall things with apt-get?
[10:08] <calamari> Kioshen: ls -l doesn't give the NUMERICAL permissions
[10:08] <foutrelis> steelb: apt-get remove [foo] 
[10:08] <n3rrd> :|  I would have entered the same thing I always do.  It asked the first time I installed, but not after the format...
[10:08] <Zakir> apt-get remove package-name
[10:08] <steelb> thanks
[10:08] <vespoli> hello, what can I do to find a suitable audio driver for my system
[10:09] <vespoli> my audio used to work, now it says there are no gstreamer plugins / devices found
[10:09] <Elrik> vespoli using rythmbox?
[10:09] <vespoli> I'm using ubuntu
[10:09] <vespoli> :P
[10:09] <vespoli> no, xmms
[10:09] <vespoli> my sound subsystem does not function
[10:09] <pianoboy3333> How can I delete a page in oowriter?
[10:09] <Elrik> Ok, to install gstreamer, just press Applications, add / remove, and search for a program named gstreamer
[10:10] <Elrik> install the video and audio programs you found there, and you'll be able to run mp3
[10:10] <tropicana> hi all
[10:10] <tur1> hi
[10:10] <tropicana> i have a problem installing ubuntu if anyone is willing to help?
[10:10] <vespoli> Elrik, do you even know what gstreamer is
[10:11] <pianoboy3333> Elrik: ummm... no
[10:11] <Kioshen> calamari, oh sorry you can use stat for this
[10:11] <foutrelis> tropicana: What seems to be the problem?
[10:11] <calamari> Kioshen: thanks
[10:11] <vespoli> Elrik, AFAIK gstreamer is standard with every ubuntu install
[10:11] <ALMimoni> hi all
[10:11] <arrenlex> !hi | ALMimoni
[10:11] <ubotu> ALMimoni: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:11] <JustinWhitaker> Hi!
[10:11] <vespoli> !hi
[10:11] <paradoxx> Wow, thank you much guys for ntfs info
[10:11] <tur1> tropicana: what kind of problem?
[10:11] <pianoboy3333> Elrik: probably... if you didn't have gstreamer in stalled... your system would malfunction
[10:11] <Elrik> vespoli thought you was asking for a codec to play mp3 files :P
[10:12] <vespoli> no
[10:12] <JustinWhitaker> beinvenue, wilkomen, welcome
[10:12] <pianoboy3333> Elrik: he didn't even say mp3
[10:12] <vespoli> Elrik, sound subsystem is broked
[10:12] <tropicana> i get a device hda, logical block 357566 error msg, i have looked on forum and changed a value using the F6 boot menu to "irqpoll" but the error still persists
[10:12] <JustinWhitaker> reinstall alsa?
[10:12] <vespoli> what package?
[10:12] <labadaba> WHO PLAY COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6 ??
[10:12] <labadaba> WHO PLAY COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6 ??
[10:12] <pianoboy3333> someone killl labadaba for me
[10:12] <vespoli> nobody
[10:12] <JustinWhitaker> I haven't played 1.6 since Source hit
[10:12] <arrenlex> !anyone | labadaba
[10:12] <ubotu> labadaba: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:12] <Nitro-Wii> hey i need some help with port forwarding with fire starter
[10:12] <vespoli> !kick labadaba
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick labadaba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <paradoxx> labadaba: Is there a linux client?
[10:13] <ALMimoni> ubuntu start with start up programs i`ve not set it? and without windows border
[10:13] <vespoli> labadaba, use wine
[10:13] <pianoboy3333> Elrik: and, the mp3 library is in multiverse, you just can't install it, and even after you add the multiverse and universe repos, it's not gonna be in add/remove programs
[10:13] <cables> I think Labadaba is a troll
[10:13] <Nitro-Wii> hey i need some help with port forwarding with fire starter?????
[10:14] <Nitro-Wii> .....
[10:14] <pianoboy3333> cables: trolls only exist in norway... it doesn't seem like he's norweigan
[10:14] <pearism> hello, sound has suddenly STOPPED on my Xubuntu ...does anyone know how to fix???
[10:14] <JustinWhitaker> tropicana...did you try the desktop cd? (Can't believe I said that)
[10:14] <paradoxx> !mount
[10:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:14] <tropicana> yes i did
[10:14] <tenco> hi
[10:14] <ALMimoni> ubuntu start without windows border?
[10:14] <JustinWhitaker> so you can't boot to the live cd?
[10:14] <arrenlex> !hi | tenco
[10:14] <ubotu> tenco: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:14] <pianoboy3333> tropicana: hmm... do you have any gnome utils installed?
[10:14] <ALMimoni> gnome start without windows border?
[10:14] <foutrelis> Nitro-Wii: http://portforward.com/
[10:14] <tropicana> this is the error trying to boot from the live cd yes
[10:15] <JustinWhitaker> hmmm....what's your partition setup like? Vista/XP?
[10:15] <Xzenome> pearism, do you have any idea of the cause?
[10:15] <tropicana> pianoboy: i only have windows installed atm, this will be my first time on linux!!
[10:15] <GionnyBoss> can anybody help me setting a WPA wireless network on ubuntu edgy, please?
[10:15] <pianoboy3333> ALMimoni: you running beryl/compiz? or some 3d accel. wm?
[10:15] <cables> !wpa | GionnyBoss
[10:15] <ubotu> GionnyBoss: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <ALMimoni> yes
[10:15] <Nitro-Wii> foutrelis that wont help me i see where to forward the ports but its gray!
[10:15] <tenco> i've created 3 physical volumes for use with lvm and created a volume group out of that 3 physical volumes. now, how can i create a filesystem on this volume group?
[10:15] <GionnyBoss> thanks
[10:15] <ALMimoni> pianoboy3333: yes
[10:15] <tropicana> Justin: Raid0 for xp and a ide drive, NOTE: i have tried disabling RAID 0 drives but no luck
[10:16] <Shadow_mil> Yeah baby!!!  I got 1GB of RAM now 8)
[10:16] <pianoboy3333> ALMimoni: well, most likely this means your 3d isn't working properly
[10:16] <JustinWhitaker> ok, you are out of my depth. I have no experience with RAID systems
[10:16] <ALMimoni> pianoboy3333: how can i fix it
[10:16] <pearism> Xzenome, not really. i have a feeling I may have "killed" some audio process from the task manager but I'm not sure what to check for :(
[10:16] <bcl> tenco: why are you using LVM? IMHO its a PITA and you're better off with ext3 or ReiserFS
[10:16] <tropicana> set that asside, with it disabled it still doesnt work
[10:16] <Nitro-Wii> dose firestarter have a irc?
[10:16] <lisapc> anyone know how to create a rescue partition and have ability to restore from a hidden rescue partition if needed?
[10:17] <tenco> bcl: seems like i have to use lvcreate...
[10:17] <Xzenome> pearism, have you tried rebooting. If you killed the process it should restart.
[10:17] <mjbjr> Nitro-Wii: why would it have irc?
[10:17] <tenco> bcl: i have 4 drives i want to cat together
[10:17] <sepheebear> bcl: LVM isnt the same as ext3 or reiserfs
[10:17] <bcl> tenco: I've done it along time ago with Fedora, but it was always more trouble than it was worth.
[10:17] <pianoboy3333> ALMimoni: Try to keep your questions less broad... when you say how can I fix it, you should also include your specs, do you know what sort of graphics card you have? have you tried running metacity/kwin to get some window manager?
[10:17] <pianoboy3333> ALMimoni: you should always say what you've tried also
[10:17] <bcl> Well, yes I know that LVM exists under the actual FS.
[10:17] <pearism> xz, yep, i have rebooted since then. so i guess it's not what i thought. any ideas?
[10:17] <mjbjr> Nitro-Wii: do you mean have an irc channel?
[10:17] <tenco> bcl: i dont think i can do that with ext3 or reiserfs
[10:17] <JustinWhitaker> trop...only time I've had that error come up is either bios issues, or a bad cd
[10:18] <Nitro-Wii> so i cant talk to some experianced firewall peoples :3
[10:18] <bcl> But in my experience it is more trouble to setup, especially for new users, than any benefit from it.
[10:18] <bruenig> lisapc, I guess you could tar up the entire filesystem, and put that on another partition, then if you needed to, just boot into the live cd and copy the files over to restore
[10:18] <pianoboy3333> Nitro-Wii: have you tried looking for one?
[10:18] <tropicana> Justin: hmmm the cd works in other computers...
[10:18] <foutrelis> Nitro-Wii: I thought firestarter would be some kind of a router.. :\ That's why I suggested that link.. Stupid me :)
[10:18] <JustinWhitaker> ok, so it's not that then...
[10:18] <mjbjr> Nitro-Wii: join it and see, or check their website
[10:18] <tropicana> no i think its something to do with this machine, but this is the machine i wanna use it on lol
[10:18] <Zakir> Nitro-Wii: try #firestarter on irc.openprojects.net
[10:19] <bcl> tenco: you can do that with RAID. And LVM from what I hear. But with LVM I believe if you lose any of the disks the whole FS is toast.
[10:19] <tenco> bcl: it's "only" a homeserver
[10:19] <tenco> bcl: sth to play with
[10:19] <Xzenome> pearism, run type "lsmod" and post the out put at http://michael-m.co.uk/pastebin
[10:20] <lisapc> can I install ubuntu as FAT32, so I can dual boot with MS Vista and copy files acrosss?
[10:20] <tenco> bcl: if i use raid0(?) i have the same issue, btw
[10:20] <brendan_> Hello i'm having some trouble setting up beryl under ubuntu 6.10. The output when i try to run beryl from the commandline is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7393/
[10:20] <Nitro-Wii> do not want!
[10:20] <robdeman> hey folks, what would be a good Gnome GUI for Snort?
[10:20] <bcl> tenco: Use RAID5
[10:21] <bruenig> lisapc, no, you can create an extra fat32 partition and put files you want to share in that, or you can just get the ext3 driver for windows and use that to get files off the ubuntu partition
[10:21] <Nitro-Wii> zomg
[10:21] <lisapc> bruenig how reliable is the the ext3 driver for windows?
[10:22] <Raider1> Turned out I had forgot to disable RAID in the BIOS ... Disabled it, Ubuntu installed smooth
[10:22] <LapSmiley> Hey guys!!!!. I have installed ubuntu on my laptop, and im now looking at setting up some of the hardware. its a dell Latitude 100L, i'm normally a gentoo user so i kind of know what im doing, but i need help in installing devices.
[10:22] <bruenig> lisapc, 100%
[10:22] <Elrik> I'm tired, and I've been working on fixing Ubuntu for 10 hours non stop, will somebody help me configure my network? I got it to work, it connected and all, but when I restarted my computer it didn't work anymore, and now I can't connect again, also the wireless network card appears not to be getting any power or anything, and when i typed iwconfig it said that the power was off for the network card, how can I fix this?
[10:22] <bruenig> lisapc, http://fs-driver.org/
[10:22] <JustinWhitaker> oy ve gentoo
[10:22] <lisapc> bruenig so I can install ubuntu as ext3, but create a separate /home folder as FAT32?
[10:22] <LapSmiley> JustinWhitaker: :P
[10:22] <pearism> Xzenome, i have just managed to do it :) http://michael-m.co.uk/pastebin/?show=22
[10:22] <bruenig> lisapc, no home needs to be ext3
[10:22] <Supaplex> fat32 euuuu
[10:22] <LapSmiley> I'm wondering how to find out if my belkin wireless card is supported.
[10:22] <bruenig> lisapc, I am saying just a separate partition that has nothing to do with the filesystem that is empty by default that you put stuff on
[10:23] <tropicana> Raider1: what raid do you have? how in the bios did you disable yours? i have disabled mine and still have issues
[10:23] <LapSmiley> its a 54g Wireless PCMCIA card.... other than that, i dont know much more (cept its belkin)
[10:23] <Elrik> wtf
[10:23] <bruenig> mounted in /media/share or wherever
[10:23] <GionnyBoss> I just wanted to know if it's worth using WPA on linux... I mean, WEP works very good... will WPA work good too without problems?
[10:23] <lisapc> bruenig so when I install ubuntu, create ext3 for ubuntu but aother partiton as FAT32?  can I copy files from /home to the fat32 partition?
[10:23] <SNippL> any1 knows good usb-stick tools?
[10:23] <MybEvil_> How can I make .sh files pause?
[10:23] <bruenig> lisapc, yes
[10:23] <SNippL> sort of sec 2?
[10:23] <MybEvil_> like in .bat's on windows you just put in it "pause"
[10:23] <Zakir> WEP has some major security flaws. If possible, use WPA. I've used WPA with out any problems.
[10:24] <bruenig> lisapc, or again, the ext3 driver http://fs-driver.org/
[10:24] <lisapc> bruenig then when I boot MS Vista, Vista can read that partition?
[10:24] <bcl> GionnyBoss: WEP is totally insecure these days. I think WPA works when using ndiswrappers.
[10:24] <Xzenome> pearism, yours looks similar to mine so it looks alright at the kernel level.
[10:24] <lisapc> bruenig i heard that http://fs-driver.org/ corupts the hdd
[10:24] <bruenig> lisapc, I have never heard that, but fat32 is fine like you said, just giving you the options
[10:24] <tenco> ok, i have to use lvcreate vg_name, but i have to specify a size. how can i tell lvcreate to use all storage available through a volume group?
[10:25] <Xzenome> SimileyLap, is it not automatically supported by Ubuntu?
[10:25] <Elrik> Lapsmiley, we all do, don't we.
[10:25] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: well, it didn't do anything when i booted up
[10:25] <SmileyLap> so i dont know :)
[10:25] <pearism> Xzenome, well if is not software...i guess its hardware. my sound card might have b0rked :(
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[10:25] <bruenig> !ops
[10:25] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:25] <SmileyLap> nice.
[10:25] <cables> !ops
[10:25] <tenco> labadaba:stop that
[10:25] <linuXx> is there a way to use my machine as repeater for wlan? I mean with it's own ssid, etc.
[10:26] <Xzenome> SmileyLap, Go into System > Administration > Network and play about with the wlan0 device. If it doesn't exist tell me.
[10:26] <bcl> tenco: this may help: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[10:26] <pianoboy3333> labada is a spam bot
[10:26] <fdr> hello... I have the feeling that my laptop is not spining down the hd in order to save power... what is the daemon that's supposed to do it so that I can check it? thanks!
[10:26] <MybEvil_> When I login with gaim, the screen disappears
[10:26] <Xzenome> pearism, try posting on ubuntuforums.org you're more likely to get a responce from someone who knows what they're talking about there.
[10:27] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: i have eth0, and eth1. And it says eth1 is wireless..
[10:27] <mjbjr> I was reviewing some old ubuntu notes, and I saw that someone had said that the user you make during the ubuntu install is in the admin group, and that using net clients while in the 'admin' group wasn't the best idea, and running as "real" separately added user aws a better idea.  Is that the current install situation?  Do you agree?
[10:27] <pearism> Xzenome, ok, thanks. ill do that!
[10:27] <gpd> I am getting errors with upgrade to edgy with courier-authdaemon - can someone help?
[10:27] <Xzenome> SimleyLap, so eth1 is your wireless card then. You card is ready for you to enter your wireless details into.
[10:28] <n3rrd> *sigh*  For some reason, Ubuntu keeps booting to a black screen after going through the loading bar.  It worked a little while ago, and I didn't change anything.
[10:28] <EruIluv> Hi?
[10:29] <EruIluv> is it normal for me not being able to acces my hard drives while on live cd?
[10:29] <JustinWhitaker> Eruil-yep
[10:29] <JustinWhitaker> you need to mount it
[10:29] <n3rrd> So either it's a random error, or my USB dongle is causing a problem at boot...
[10:29] <EruIluv> mount it ? you mean , install it on the hd?
[10:30] <bruenig> EruIluv, what is the name of the harddrive, /dev/what
[10:30] <EruIluv> does the name matter? its TOP i guess
[10:30] <EruIluv> D:
[10:30] <tanakorn> Hello , i need Linux authencication gateway application, can anyone suggest me ?
[10:30] <bruenig> EruIluv, do sudo fdisk -l in the terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and figure out which of the /dev/whatever's it is
[10:31] <EruIluv> ok . ill try it when i reboot , thx bruenig  ... but what whould i do next?
[10:31] <ashtar> hello, I can't resize my ubuntu partition
[10:31] <tenco> bcl: thanks. that helped
[10:32] <bruenig> EruIluv, when you get in there open gaim, you can get on irc from there
[10:32] <SmileyLap> pah, im used to this not clicking, didn't even know it could.... now i boot up linux on it, it works, \o/ but the padclicks :-s
[10:32] <tbodine> How do I keep devices from showing up on the desktop? (Such as an MP3 player, a CD, etc.)
[10:32] <bruenig> s/open/run
[10:32] <EruIluv> ok
[10:32] <tbodine> I still want them mounted and ready to go, just not on the desktop.
[10:32] <cables> tbodine, alt-f2, then gconf-editor
[10:32] <jrib> !icons | tbodine
[10:32] <ubotu> tbodine: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[10:33] <tbodine> Thanks.
[10:33] <atrak> hi, when I try to resize my ubuntu partition with gparted, there's a lock next to the partitions and I can't create new one
[10:33] <ubunt1> hey how can i enable LOgitech wheel to work
[10:34] <ubunt1> !logitech
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <cables> atrak, how many partitions do you have already?
[10:34] <Xzenome> atrak, you can modify mounted partitions, thus they are locked.
[10:34] <bruenig> atrak, it needs to be unounted, what does this partition have on it
[10:34] <ubunt1> i have optical mouse
[10:34] <Softly> sup?
[10:34] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: Ok, im back..... it doesn't work :) Its called eth1 and it fails :(
[10:34] <atrak> 1
[10:34] <Jrabbit> Ok
[10:34] <ubunt1> and whell
[10:34] <ubunt1> and whell
[10:34] <atrak> it only has ubuntu on it
[10:34] <Xzenome> SmileyLap,# what errors do you get?
[10:34] <Softly> ??
[10:34] <pianoboy3333> How can I delete a page in oowriter?
[10:34] <Jrabbit> I need to get a Windows Driver working on Edgy, NDISwrapper is the only way right?
[10:34] <bruenig> atrak, ok, yeah you can't modify mounted partitions, you can't unmount this partition, because then the OS would stop, you need to use the live cd
[10:35] <Jrabbit> Or has it been replaced/taken off the install
[10:35] <ubunt1> bruenig i have logitech optical mouse and i need wheel to work
[10:35] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: none...
[10:35] <bruenig> ubunt1, get a different mount
[10:35] <SmileyLap> unless eth1 might be some onboard modem or something, and its not seeing my wlan card?
[10:35] <bruenig> mouse*
[10:35] <atrak> alright, thanks
[10:35] <ubunt1> bruenig ?????????? mount ???
[10:35] <Xzenome> SmileyLap would you like to do remote desktop and I'll take a look myself.
[10:35] <ubunt1> bruenig why?
[10:35] <bruenig> s/mount/mouse/
[10:36] <bruenig> that is my advice, you directed the question at me for some unknown reason and that is what I would do.
[10:36] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: if it somehow gets through all of these firewalls, sure, how would i do that?
[10:36] <ubunt1> brueing the direction is for you
[10:36] <ubunt1> burenig becouse you know how to help
[10:36] <john> does archive manager have support for 7z?
[10:36] <vox754> Jrabbit, ndiswrapper is only for wireless cards drivers.
[10:36] <Xzenome> SmileyLap, System>Preferences>Remote Desktop , then tell me your IP address.
[10:37] <Jrabbit> vox547: Its for a wireless driver....
[10:37] <ubunt1> now i have logitech optical mouse can i enable the wheel to work like windows xp
[10:37] <Jrabbit> vox547: I've done it before in Dapper about 5 times and now it doesn't work on a clean install of Edgy
[10:37] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: it says localhost xD
[10:37] <bruenig> john, you need to install p7zip
[10:38] <john> k
[10:38] <Jrabbit> vox547: I don't want to lug my system to my access point.
[10:38] <Xzenome> SmileyLap, go to http://whatismyip.com
[10:38] <ubunt1>  Plug n' Play, then edited xorg.conf so the wheel would scroll.
[10:38] <SmileyLap> Xzenome: im behind two NAT firewalls, along wtih IPtables....
[10:38] <Jrabbit> vox547: The device it seen and 'configured' but no luck actually conencting to a server
[10:38] <SmileyLap> i doubt your going to be able to view it :-/
[10:38] <Elrik> Really, linux needs to create better support for wireless network card. and windows needs to rot in hell for forcing linux to make better support for wireless network cards.
[10:39] <eobanb> what happened to disks-admin in edgy
[10:39] <Xzenome> SmileyLap, we can give it a try. It might go through against odds.
[10:39] <SmileyLap> hahaha ok
[10:39] <Jrabbit> Elrik ++
[10:39] <SmileyLap> 84.12.139.237
[10:39] <Jrabbit> Its pathetic how much work it takes me to setup
[10:39] <eDRoaCH> i have a question...
[10:40] <Elrik> Yeah, I've been working for 10 hours non stop fixing this today, and yesterday i spent 3 hours during the evening Jrabbit
[10:40] <bruenig> well if the linux people would just buy cards that worked that had drivers made for them, perhaps there would be financial incentive for drivers to be made, which is why I never understand people using ati or ndiswrapper, go buy a card that works with drivers
[10:40] <karim> hi
[10:40] <DinkyDogg> hi
[10:40] <DinkyDogg> is it possible to boot and onlly use command prompt from the live cd?
[10:40] <GenNMX> Hey, I finally decided on ubuntu-server, but I also want an X display. I installed xfce4 and all that jazz, but I can't start the wm. Now I'm installing xubuntu-desktop metapackage. Should that do it?
[10:40] <Jrabbit> Elrik I'm tempted to scrap edgy and go back to my rock, Dapper
[10:40] <DinkyDogg> x is completely glitchy for me from the live cd
[10:40] <eDRoaCH> i got a wikimedia server up on ubuntu at work this week. did a server install so i could do raid 1 on 4 partitions (root, swap, home, and var) and then did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. (Btw this is 6.06 but i did apt-get upgrade)
[10:40] <bruenig> GenNMX, that will do it
[10:40] <loquesea> hello
[10:41] <Xzenome> SmileyLap, anything happening?
[10:41] <bruenig> !hi | loquesea
[10:41] <ubotu> loquesea: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:41] <SmileyLap> no Xzenome
[10:41] <SmileyLap> lol
[10:41] <eDRoaCH> everythings working beautifully, but i notice when i do Administration->disks the disks app imediately crashes
[10:41] <Jrabbit> I've screwed up my xorg.conf how can I fix that via shell?
[10:41] <Xzenome> what a shame
[10:41] <GenNMX> DinkyDogg: Use the alternate install CD, that doesn't use X.
[10:41] <eDRoaCH> does it not work with raid?
[10:41] <bruenig> !xconfig | Jrabbit
[10:41] <ubotu> Jrabbit: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:41] <DinkyDogg> gennmx: Thanks! I'll try that
[10:41] <Jrabbit> Thankyou
[10:41] <Jrabbit> !FixRes
[10:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:41] <GenNMX> bruenig: It uses xfce4, right?
[10:41] <Xzenome> SmileyLap send me a screenshot of the dialogue to configure eth1.
[10:41] <bruenig> GenNMX, yes
[10:41] <Elrik> I've got nothing to go back to, except windows, so my only option is to get this to work, I want to have ubuntu alot. jrabbit
[10:42] <loquesea> what modules do I need to  connect to my lan by an usb port ?
[10:42] <bkervaski> Hi all, in dapper, trying to start racoon, I get: insmod: error inserting 'crc32c.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[10:42] <bkervaski> Any suggestions?
[10:42] <GenNMX> OK, cool. I've never used xfce before, but it looks awesome. I hated Gnome and KDE -- way too bloated.
[10:42] <bkervaski> The file is there.
[10:42] <bruenig> I use xfce, it is nice
[10:42] <Xzenome> SmileyLap, my email address is michael@michael-m.co.uk
[10:42] <researchsci> Okay folks, I just started using Ubuntu today, and I'm having problems setting up my wifi card, if anyone can hep, I'd appreciate it.
[10:43] <bruenig> !wifi | researchsci if it even will work at all
[10:43] <ubotu> researchsci if it even will work at all: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:43] <loquesea> if I can conect to the net with the USB port  I can remove windows from this machine
[10:43] <SmileyLap> HWaddr 00:30:BD:F7:86:14 << which company makes nic's with that mac?
[10:43] <SmileyLap> that looks like belkin to me :-/
[10:43] <Elrik> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2206292#post2206292 somebody please help.
[10:43] <GenNMX> SmileyLap: What does lscpi tell you?
[10:43] <Xzenome> researchsci, join #ubuntu-classroom and I'll try to help you.
[10:44] <SmileyLap> HWaddr 00:30:BD:F7:86:14
[10:44] <SmileyLap> oh ffs
[10:45] <SmileyLap> 0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 01)
[10:45] <GenNMX> SmileyLap: There you go
[10:45] <SmileyLap> thats the only entry with grep -i ethernet picks up
[10:45] <SmileyLap> GenNMX: na, thats the network, i need the wireless card
[10:45] <apocalypse> i have samba setup so user1 and user2 can access my home folder as read only. How would i set it up so user2 can read and write?
[10:45] <ompaul> !broadcom | SmileyLap
[10:45] <ubotu> SmileyLap: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:45] <SmileyLap> i need to know how to install a PCMCIA card. :o
[10:46] <n3rrd> This sounds crazy, but at install, Ubuntu didn't ask for username, password, etc...?  It won't let me sudo and I had to go into recovery mode to add a user. any ideas why this happened?
[10:46] <loquesea> !usb
[10:46] <SmileyLap> finally people notice me :D
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Juhaz> SmileyLap, yes, it's belkin
[10:47] <loquesea> !usblan
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usblan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <loquesea> !dhclent usb
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclent usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <SmileyLap> Ooooh its a : F5D7010xx
[10:47] <loquesea> !dhclient usb
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <GenNMX> apocalypse: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html <-- very extensive documentation
[10:48] <ubunt1> !ps2
[10:48] <lisapc> ,
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <ubunt1> !optical mousr
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optical mousr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <ubunt1> !optical mouse
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optical mouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <eobanb> ubunt1, what is your question
[10:48] <GenNMX> apocalypse: Also try SWAT
[10:48] <linuXx> is there a way to use my machine as repeater for wlan?
[10:48] <ubunt1> eobanb i have optical mouse and i can't enable wheel to work
[10:49] <eobanb> !mousewheel
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mousewheel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <orangefly> finaly....for the love of god....beryl is working perfect, my wireless is working, and all is right with the world....
[10:49] <Elrik> How do I enter c:/ [my computer} on ubuntu
[10:49] <vox754> SmileyLap, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List search F5D7010
[10:49] <apocalypse> GenMX: i'll check it out thanks
[10:49] <ompaul> !cli | Elrik
[10:49] <ubotu> Elrik: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:49] <SmileyLap> ah it works with ndiswrapper?
[10:49] <GenNMX> linuXx: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Wireless-HOWTO.html
[10:49] <Elrik> orangefly be happy as long as you can, my wireless was, and then it stopped working after restarting the comp
[10:49] <linuXx> thx GenNMX
[10:50] <vox754> SmileyLap, it doesn't hurt trying.
[10:50] <eobanb> Elrik, Places > Computer > Filesystem
[10:50] <SmileyLap> VoX: heh
[10:50] <orangefly> we'll see....i'm sure the ubuntu struggle is far from over....but for now i'm content....
[10:50] <SmileyLap> vox754: this was looking so good up to now as well :/
[10:50] <Elrik> after filesystem eobanb?
[10:50] <gpd> I am getting this from courier-authdaemon upgrade: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error' what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[10:51] <eobanb> Elrik, oh, are you talking about your windows partition?
[10:51] <vox754> SmileyLap, what do you mean? You DON'T like ndiswrapper? It is great.
[10:51] <Elrik> yes eobanb
[10:51] <gpd> can't remove it - can't upgrade -- found a thread -but no help :(
[10:51] <eobanb> Elrik, sorry, i misunderstood.
[10:51] <apocalypse> !swat
[10:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:51] <eobanb> Elrik, what do you see under Computer
[10:52] <apocalypse> GenMX: how do i get to swat?
[10:52] <Elrik> Eobanb, Floppy 1, Floppy Drive, CD ROM/ DVD ROM Drive, CD RW DVD RW,, Apple Ipod, Compact Flash Drive, Memory stick drive, SD/MMC drive, SmartMedia drive,and Filesystem
[10:52] <GenNMX> apocalypse: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html
[10:53] <GenNMX> Elrik: Are you familiar with the Linux subsystem and terminal?
[10:53] <eobanb> Elrik, enable universe and multiverse and install the pysdm package
[10:53] <SmileyLap> right ok, appently i can use some dell driver.... :-/
[10:54] <Elrik> GenNMX, only slightly
[10:54] <Elrik> eobanb I still haven't understood how to enable that universe and multiverse thingy
[10:54] <gnomepanelkiller> how do I get rid of some of the /sbin/getty programs?
[10:54] <eobanb> !universe
[10:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:54] <sepheebear> 
[10:55] <GenNMX> Elrik: I could tell you how to add it to your fstab file manually, but I'm not sure if you want to go that low in operation.
[10:55] <eobanb> GenNMX, i'm having him install pysdm.
[10:55] <n3rrd> Wow... what the hell did I do wrong with this stupid install, lol.
[10:55] <Elrik> Yeah, I guess I should put that universe thing on a halt for now, I still haven't gotten internet to work
[10:55] <colbert> Hello, referring to "http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/edgy/main/0.1.99.2/" <-- how do I enable this repository ?
[10:56] <Elrik> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2206292#post2206292
[10:56] <GenNMX> My, this fonts cache regenerates slower then Wolverine in a coma.
[10:56] <GenNMX> Elrik: You can also install it from the disc you installed ubuntu from.
[10:57] <Flannel> gnomepanelkiller: you mean you want fewer ttys running (ctrl-alt-f1-f6) right?  Dapper or edgy?
[10:57] <SmileyLap> !easysource
[10:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:57] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to minimize Azureus to the system tray, but the icon doesn't show up. Any ideas?
[10:57] <Elrik> GenNMX yeah,,, i can wait untill i got internet to work though,if i ever will^^
[10:58] <eobanb> GenNMX, uh, no, i'm pretty sure pysdm (nor any universe/multiverse packages) are on the install disc
[10:58] <comradec> what does it mean when the desc for a package is obsoleted by something
[10:58] <GenNMX> Elrik: Like I said, I can walk you through mounting it manually if you want...
[10:58] <eobanb> pysdm is not*
[10:58] <GenNMX> eobanb: I should have added "might be"
[10:58] <AlexC_> Hi hi,
[10:59] <sodoku> whats your favourite latex editor ? how are the eclipse plugins ?
[10:59] <sim55> hey , how do i install new window decorations?
[10:59] <yurimxpxman> sim55: Just drag and drop the new theme into the Theme settings window
[10:59] <cables> sim55, in gnome?
[10:59] <Flannel> sodoku: is there a LaTeX eclipse plugin?
[10:59] <GionnyBoss> I'm trying to follow the instructions on ubuntu official guide for WPA, but I have problems... can anybody help me, please?
[10:59] <AlexC_> sim55: Drag and drop it into the window, System->Prefs->Theme
[10:59] <Elrik> Sure gennmx, looks like i can put that network connection on a halt for now,
[11:00] <sim55> in kde
[11:00] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to minimize Azureus to the system tray, but the icon doesn't show up. Any ideas?
[11:00] <cables> AlexC_, yurimxpxman, he was using kde
[11:00] <eobanb> Elrik, personally i think your priority ought to be your internet connection, because that's the only real way to install updated packages
[11:00] <tanakorn> why there is no server application on my ubuntu 6.10 dvd version  ?
[11:00] <yurimxpxman> cables: That's why I didn't respond after he let us know he wasn't using GNOME since I don't use KDE ;)
[11:00] <eobanb> yurimxpxman, ask in #azureus too
[11:00] <yurimxpxman> k thanks
[11:00] <AlexC_> cables: ahh, I would have thought you'd go in #kubuntu for KDE related stuff, instead of #ubuntu which ships with Gnome
[11:01] <cables> AlexC_, you're supposed to, but most people don't.
[11:01] <sim55> cables: im trying to instlal window decs in kde
[11:01] <Elrik> eobanb, I have already updated everything, if you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2206292#post2206292 you see i managed to get my connection working then it dissapeared
[11:01] <TridenT_Boy3555> Howdy all
[11:01] <cables> !lamp | tanakorn
[11:01] <ubotu> tanakorn: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:01] <eobanb> Elrik, oh, this is wireless
[11:01] <eobanb> with ndiswrapper
[11:02] <tanakorn> Thanks
[11:02] <eobanb> Elrik, does it show up in ifconfig?
[11:02] <sodoku> Flannel: yes, there are two ecletex and texlipse
[11:02] <Flannel> sodoku: go figure.  Seems like an awful waste of memory for a glorified text editor
[11:02] <eobanb> Elrik, and what about Network Manager
[11:03] <sodoku> yeah
[11:03] <Elrik> eobanb, yes, wlan0
[11:03] <eobanb> Elrik, network manager then
[11:03] <sodoku> i am trying out the plugin for gedit
[11:03] <comradec> can anyone tell me what it means when a package is obsoleted in the synaptic package manager
[11:03] <Centaur5> Is it extremely often that updates will kill modem devices?
[11:03] <Elrik> what network manager eobanb?
[11:03] <eobanb> network manager is now the preferred way to switch between wireless networks
[11:03] <eobanb> !network manager
[11:03] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:03] <AlexC_> comradec: you most probably need to enable Extra Repositores https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[11:03] <Elrik> Right, that one, but to install it, ofcourse i need internet working
[11:03] <Flannel> comradec: still around for upgrading, but not used anymore (it probably depends on a single package, and that package is the new one),
[11:03] <Kevros> I am having a problem with ndiswrapper, and giri at ndiswrapper asked me to try a non-smp kernel.  Can anyone here help me with that.  I am a beginner and don't even know where to start.
[11:04] <Elrik> I have WiFi radar btw
[11:04] <tanakorn> How to install .package file on ubuntu ?
[11:04] <eobanb> tanakorn, that's an autopackage file
[11:04] <tanakorn> sorry, i'm new.
[11:04] <eobanb> well, probably anyway
[11:04] <eobanb> tanakorn, where did you get it
[11:04] <comradec> Flannel: I was just wondering cause I guess the install cd is i386, but if you have a p4 thats i686, so is there a point to upgrading to a 686 kernel
[11:04] <ALMimoni> how can i start window manager
[11:04] <tanakorn> vuurmuur
[11:04] <vox754> Centaur5, modem devices? as in telephone line? Maybe just Kernel updates.
[11:05] <eobanb> ALMimoni, can you be more specific
[11:05] <tanakorn> in sourceforge
[11:05] <Elrik> eobanb my problem is that for some reason when i type iwconfig it says "Poer management off" Essid : off" and all that, also my network card appears not to be getting any power
[11:05] <Xzenome> comradec, you will probably get a bit of a speed increase.
[11:05] <bulazeem> hi, i was here yesterday night trying to install ubuntu but i still have a problem that is preventing me from installing.  during step 5 of 6 of the install ubuntu tries to look for any hard drives to partition.  i have 1 hard drive that is an 80GB SATA HD.  for some reason, the installer does not ever find the hard drive and just hangs on that step and will not go any further.
[11:05] <ALMimoni> gnome starts without windows borders?
[11:06] <Kenny_2> got a quick question involving SSH (or more specifically sftp)
[11:06] <Centaur5> vox754: Well some updates made the modem no longer work and the updates wouldn't install.  I had to do dist-upgrade to get the updates and then redo the modem drivers.  Does that happen a lot?
[11:06] <vox754> !kernel > Kevros
[11:06] <mau> anybody know why i wouldn't be getting sound out of my spdif?
[11:06] <Dr_willis> mixer has it muted mau
[11:06] <Xzenome> ALMimoni,go into the terminal and type metacity it should get them back/
[11:06] <mau> i'll check it out
[11:06] <mau> thanks
[11:06] <eobanb> tanakorn, the way autopackage works is the actual autopackage package itself should be installed if you execute the .package, which can then install the .package file
[11:06] <eobanb> tanakorn, so in short, just run the .package file.
[11:07] <bulazeem> anyone know why it cant find my hard drive?  i looked in device manager on the desktop cd and it has a storage device listed and everything.  but during the partition step it doesnt ever find a hard drive.
[11:07] <ALMimoni> Xzenome: that is work, but should i do it all time i start system?
[11:08] <vox754> Centaur5, not sure. I just updated the Kernel 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17.11 and my wireless stopped working. I recompiled ndiswrapper and everything worked again. I guess it does something, and you need to reinstall.
[11:08] <Kenny_2> anyone able to help me out with a quick SSH question?
[11:08] <eobanb> Kenny_2, sure
[11:08] <Xzenome> ALMinoni, join #ubuntu-classroom so i can explain how without all of this noise
[11:08] <colbert> Can someone tell me how to add this repository to my sources.list: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/pool/edgy/main/0.1.99.2/
[11:08] <AlexC_> !anyone | Kenny_2
[11:08] <ubotu> Kenny_2: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:08] <tanakorn> How to install .package file on ubuntu ?  i download program .package file from internet.
[11:08] <AlexC_> !repeat | tanakorn
[11:08] <ubotu> tanakorn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:08] <eobanb> tanakorn, i just explained how to install it.  please read what i wrote
[11:08] <Kenny_2> sure, I have an FTP server setup along with SSH
[11:08] <[KotG|Tanuva] > I gotta state that kubuntu is the best linux distro ever. My budget dvb-t card works out of the box, aiglx/beryl/3d-acceleration, too. (leaving out the debian base, which is clearly a really good one)
[11:08] <Kenny_2> my port 20-22 are open
[11:09] <tanakorn> ok
[11:09] <eobanb> [KotG|Tanuva] , good to hear.
[11:09] <Flannel> colbert: ask in #ubuntu-effects, that's the beryl support channel (only because they might have a better repository, adding repositories willy nilly isn't good)
[11:09] <Kenny_2> and using PuTty from windows, I can SSH fine and ftp fine from IE
[11:09] <tanakorn> i see it , Thanks
[11:09] <AlexC_> !enter | Kenny_2
[11:09] <ubotu> Kenny_2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:09] <Elrik> !patience
[11:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:09] <Centaur5> vox754: Okay, well unfortunately I guess that will just be a problem.  Will they be putting more built in modem support in Feisty like they talked about?
[11:09] <eobanb> Kenny_2, play............
[11:09] <eobanb> okay*
[11:09] <Flannel> tanakorn: what program is it that you're trying to install?
[11:09] <Kenny_2> my bad
[11:10] <eobanb> Flannel, vuumuur, it's an autopackage file
[11:10] <Flannel> eobanb: I know it's an autopackage
[11:10] <vox754> Centaur5, yes I remember a discussion on the forums about that. Not really sure though.
[11:10] <Kenny_2> when i try to use filezilla or IE to sftp into my server, times out every time, and my ports are open on my router/firewall
[11:10] <tanakorn> it's name is Vuurmuur. i found in sourceforge.net   for control about netfilter/iptables
[11:11] <eobanb> tanakorn, do you understand my instructions?
[11:11] <Centaur5> vox754: I'll certainly hope so.  Is there a certain brand of modem that will work off the bat right now with Edgy?
[11:11] <SmileyLap> errr, wtf was i meant to be doing :-/
[11:11] <Tweek888> what kernel is 6.10 using?
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <eobanb> !ops
[11:11] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:11] <BOBFuFK> looooooooooool
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <XB> DCC
[11:11] <XB> | 00:10 |  @Mr_Rabies2 SEND
[11:11] <AlexC_> !ops
[11:11] <XB> DCC
[11:11] <BOBFuFK> lollllllololol
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <XB> | 00:10 |  @Mr_Rabies2 SEND
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <Nayr>  #ubuntu
[11:11] <SmileyLap> Oh stfu jeez.
[11:11] <BOBFuFK> MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH
[11:11] <SmileyLap> lol
[11:11] <BOBFuFK> MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH
[11:11] <XB> DCC SEND BUTTSBUTTSBUTTSBUTTSBUTTS
[11:11] <BOBFuFK> MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH MONSTER MASH
[11:11] <AlexC_> !ops
[11:12] <AlexC_> idiots.
[11:12] <SmileyLap> How would i upgrade from 6.06 to the newer versions?
[11:12] <Nik0> OH SHIT FUUUUCK!!!!
[11:12] <AlexC_> !upgrade | SmileyLap
[11:12] <Tweek888> How do I check what kernel 6.10 is using? :<
[11:12] <AlexC_> !language | Nikolas
[11:12] <Tweek888> edgey I think.
[11:12] <ubotu> SmileyLap: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:12] <AlexC_> woops, wrong person
[11:12] <ubotu> Nikolas: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:12] <smick> somebody, I'm dualbooting windows / linux.  I reinstalled windows and the boot sequence no longer has ubuntu. How can I get back to ubuntu at startup?
[11:12] <AlexC_> sorry, Nikolas wrong person lol
[11:12] <Flannel> !grub | smick
[11:12] <ubotu> smick: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:12] <SmileyLap> ty whom ever that waas :)
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <colbert> Flannel: I am referring to http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4046 <-- I can do all but if you can please just elaborate on step #1. i)
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <ubunt1> !mouseemu
[11:12] <cables> !ops
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <eobanb> !ops
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <Gerald> RAID IS RAID
[11:12] <ubotu> mouseemu: Emulate mouse buttons and mouse wheel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-3 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 120 kB
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:13] <WRYY> RAID IS RAID
[11:13] <AlexC_> Wow, you're all grown up! look at you! You can spam! wow! You go!!
[11:13] <disciple> which liveCD should i grab for an intel core duo?
[11:13] <ALMimoni> how can i remove beryl
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[11:13] <smick> thanks ubotu
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[11:13] <disciple> jesus, can we boot the spammers please
[11:13] <WRYY> RAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAIDRAID IS RAID
[11:13] <AlexC_> !ops
[11:13] <Xzenome> I hate trolls and spammers
[11:13] <Wanderer> ditto
[11:13] <ubunt1> tony what are this ???
[11:13] <Flannel> colbert: Ask in #ubuntu-effects, like I said, there might be a better repository/method than that one.
[11:13] <AlexC_> what the hell did they get out of doing that? Nothing. f***** idiots.
[11:13] <eobanb> moving on...
[11:13] <bulazeem> anyone know why it cant find my hard drive?  i looked in device manager on the desktop cd and it has a storage device listed and everything.  but during the partition step it doesnt ever find a hard drive.
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> Sorry I'm being slow to react folks - 12 seconds of lag ;)
[11:14] <AlexC_> tonyyarusso: probably for the best! you would have missed all the spam
[11:14] <disciple> should I be grabbing the amd64 liveCD for use with a 64-but intel core duo or just the i386?
[11:14] <AlexC_> disciple: you can use the i386 and I would advise the 386
[11:15] <kharloss> i was hacked . what`s next step ?
[11:15] <ubunt1> i too was hacked
[11:15] <vox754> Centaur5, you mean "modem" like 56 kbps? It's hard to tell since Ethernet is really the best right now.
[11:15] <ubunt1> i need antivirus
[11:15] <disciple> AlexC_: ta
[11:15] <ubunt1> someone say good antivirus
[11:15] <Flannel> kharloss: only 'safe' thing to do is reinstall, and pick stronger passwords next time.
[11:15] <cables> !antivirus | ubunt1
[11:15] <ubotu> ubunt1: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[11:15] <kharloss> i installes a rootkit but nothing detected. i know i was hacked
[11:15] <will_> Anyone know of a good FPS?
[11:15] <Smiley> Ah, as my laptop is now upgrading ^_^
[11:15] <Flannel> kharloss: safe, because while hacking you, they couldve replaced any number of system files with their own
[11:15] <Tweek888> does ubuntu 6.10 use the 2.6.9 kernel?
[11:15] <Xzenome> ubunt1, you will very rarely need AV on linux.
[11:15] <Tweek888> by default
[11:15] <kharloss> ok Flannel
[11:15] <will_> Anyone know of a good FPS for Linux?
[11:15] <AlexC_> Tweek888: 2.6.9?! that's old!
[11:15] <Tweek888> :>
[11:16] <Tweek888> I know
[11:16] <kharloss> i have a lot to backup then
[11:16] <ubunt1> Xzenome: why then the peoples say that htey are hacked
[11:16] <Tweek888> I can't find out what it is using
[11:16] <AlexC_> Tweek888: latest kernel is 2.6.20 ... Edgy ships with 2.6.17 I think, or was it 18
[11:16] <ompaul> I thought I got them
[11:16] <eobanb> will_, america's army, quake III, tremulous
[11:16] <Tweek888> kk
[11:16] <ompaul> arrrrrr
[11:16] <Tweek888> thanks
[11:16] <Flannel> ubunt1: antivirus won't protect you against weak passwords
[11:16] <disciple> also I have a nVidia 8800 GTS, any idea if this works with the current edgy liveCD?  I have an older edgy boot cd and X11 fails with it.
[11:16] <Tweek888> I built 2.6.20 earlier , but it failed
[11:16] <Flannel> Tweek888, AlexC_, 17
[11:16] <ubunt1> Flannel: ??????????? what???
[11:16] <Centaur5> vox754: Yeah, I'm talking about dial up modem.  I was afraid of that.  I talked this guy into switching to Ubuntu but he uses dial up and I feel bad cause his modem gives him problems with kernel updates so I wondered if there was something that could be done that I didn't know about.
[11:16] <Tweek888> so I am going to install edgy
[11:16] <Tweek888> and try to get ndiswrapper working.
[11:16] <Tweek888> :\
[11:17] <ubunt1> Flannel: how can they hack the password
[11:17] <smick> what is the difference in edgy and edgy eft
[11:17] <will_> Isn't AA a full gig to download?
[11:17] <rishabghosh> i have had a lot of fun showing off edgy with beryl on my sony vaio sz2
[11:17] <cbx33> smick, nothing
[11:17] <acu> I want to configure a RAID 1 I have two IDE (for OS) and TWO SCSI (for /var) can anyone help me ?
[11:17] <smick> that's what I thought.
[11:17] <smick> thanks cbx
[11:17] <rishabghosh> everything setup automatically
[11:17] <Flannel> ubunt1: by trying a bunch of passwords
[11:17] <rishabghosh> but i'm having trouble getting the new flash plugin to work
[11:17] <Tweek888> thanks AlexC_ and Flannel
[11:17] <smick> I need an edgy torrent. anyone?  they aren't on the site
[11:17] <Tweek888> I'll be back if I have problems :P
[11:17] <Flannel> smick: there are.  Go to "additional download options"
[11:17] <Wanderer> anyone know anything about sound on a toshiba satelite with kubuntu-amd64?
[11:18] <kharloss> i have a strong password  16 characters  numbers and letters
[11:18] <AlexC_> !anyone | Wanderer
[11:18] <ubotu> Wanderer: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:18] <kharloss> i don`t think this was a weeknes
[11:18] <min> I am using Dapper. my firefox can access most websites, but not www.msn.com, what's up
[11:18] <Wanderer> finding a subject matter expert and holding a conversation is easier and less likely to get lost in the crowd
[11:19] <ubunt1> Flannel:  that is impossible
[11:19] <Flannel> ubunt1: no, it's very possible.  It happens all the time
[11:19] <vox754> Centaur5, I just spoke with ndiswrapper guys, and apparently ndiswrapper may also work okay with modems and all that.
[11:19] <smick> Does the ultimate edition have beryl and all the 3D stuff working good?
[11:19] <AlexC_> smick: Ultimate Edition????
[11:19] <cables> smick, that's not official.
[11:19] <Centaur5> vox754: So this guy would just have to run a command to fix ndiswrapper?
[11:19] <bulazeem> ubuntu can not find my hard drive during step 5/6 of the install of 6.10 amd64.  i have an 80GB SATA HD that is not currently partitioned to anything but windows.  the hard drive has some raid drivers installed on it.  what could the problem be?
[11:19] <blaze> A lot of my applications tend to crash on me, such as Gdeskelts or Rythembox. How can I begin to troubleshoot these crashes?
[11:19] <AlexC_> ubunt1: kharloss how do you were 'hacked'
[11:19] <Raider1> Where would I find the timeout duration for when ubuntu server blacks out the screen from idling
[11:19] <Flannel> ubunt1: that's why you should always use strong passwords: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[11:19] <ubunt1> Flannel: moment how they can hack the UBuntu
[11:20] <pirate-king> does anyone know where I can download a generic linux boot disk
[11:20] <smick> I was just thinking it coudl save me time, I want to get beryl, but Originally compiz never worked for me.
[11:20] <cables> smick, AlexC_, Ubuntu Ultimate Edition is an unofficial versin of Ubuntu. It's not supported here.
[11:20] <vox754> Centaur5, that is what I did.
[11:20] <vrkhans> i am installing ubuntu, which file system is good for linux ext3 or reiserfs
[11:20] <pirate-king> tried booddisk.com
[11:20] <AlexC_> cables: ahhh, I see
[11:20] <amaan> how do i get rid of folders on my desktop (it wont let me send them to the trash - it has a lock on it)
[11:20] <rishabghosh> smick: ultimate edition?? dunno, but i installed edgy and copied 4 lines from the howto beryl guide and it's all working fine
[11:20] <ubunt1> Flannel: i use strong password
[11:20] <vrkhans> and what is the difference
[11:20] <Flannel> ubunt1: then provided you keep it safe, you're ok.
[11:20] <cables> pirate-king, what do you mean, a generic linux boot disk? What do you mean by generic?
[11:20] <SmileyLap> hey guys, how would i stop my mousepad clicking? its SO annoying!
[11:20] <smick> rishabghosh: thanks!
[11:20] <SmileyLap> !mouse
[11:20] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:20] <ubunt1> AlexC_: someone write things
[11:20] <SmileyLap> !mousepad
[11:20] <ubotu> mousepad: simple Xfce oriented text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 508 kB
[11:20] <SmileyLap> :/
[11:20] <Flannel> ubunt1: they can use weak passwords to crack into any system.  Not just linux.
[11:20] <AlexC_> ubunt1 what?
[11:20] <kharloss> ubunt1 : i have  6.10   srv   i installled just apache + ph + mysql
[11:20] <kharloss> nothing else
[11:20] <kharloss> mail srv or enything
[11:21] <AlexC_> !enter | kharloss
[11:21] <ubotu> kharloss: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:21] <TylerIsGreen> i have a very difficult question, are there any ubuntu experts out there?
[11:21] <ubunt1> Flannel: that is bad.ANd if i install nide
[11:21] <cables> !ask | TylerIsGreen
[11:21] <ubotu> TylerIsGreen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:21] <AlexC_> wow, it's gone crazy around here. Too croweded man!
[11:21] <cables> !anyone | TylerIsGreen
[11:21] <ubotu> TylerIsGreen: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:21] <ubunt1> AlexC_: someone spam from the username
[11:21] <vrkhans> which one is better ext3 or reiserfs
[11:21] <Wanderer> I just upgraded my laptop from edgy i386 to edgy amd64.  Same hardware, just whacked the disk and re-installed.  Now I get no sound.  Anyone have any ideas?  Toshiba Satellite
[11:21] <AlexC_> ubunt1: sorry, I really don't understand. You got Spam and think that someone hacked you because ... you got spam?!
[11:21] <vrkhans> i am planning to install ubuntu
[11:21] <smick> can I make a CD instead of boot floppy?
[11:22] <smick> boot cd
[11:22] <vrkhans> and making the partition
[11:22] <AlexC_> !enter | vrkhans
[11:22] <eobanb> vrkhans, as far as i know, reiser is not even an install option for ubuntu
[11:22] <Flannel> kharloss: you sure you got broken into?
[11:22] <ubotu> vrkhans: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:22] <eobanb> i'd just go with ext3
[11:22] <eobanb> vrkhans, at least until reiser4 is more mature
[11:22] <kharloss> yes Flannel
[11:22] <Centaur5> Okay, thanks vox754 I will look into that if this continues.  He's just been my first experiment with an older consumer that doesn't know much about computers so I've been seeing what Ubuntu is like for him...overall it's been quite smooth.
[11:22] <sstchur> I have a strange wireless problem:  Ubuntu see my wireless card and I can connect no problem.  However, after long periods of inactivity, I get disconnected, and subsequent attempts to reconnect fail UNTIL I reset my router.... and then everything is okay again (for a short while).  What would cause this?
[11:22] <kharloss> i found on my var/www  some php scripts
[11:23] <Leo_> ??
[11:23] <pirothezero> anyone know the best way to run a monowall type operation on ubuntu ?
[11:23] <ubunt1> AlexC_:  then why they spam from here.
[11:23] <vrkhans> eobanb some one is telling me that reiserfs is better
[11:23] <vox754> eobanb, you can create reiserfs with another linux and then install, I think. But yeah, I'd go with ext3 too.
[11:23] <AlexC_> ubunt1: sorry, I don't understand.
[11:23] <bulazeem> why cant ubuntu find my hard drive during the install process when it tries to find a HD to partition?
[11:23] <vrkhans> you thing i should leave it as ext3
[11:23] <TylerIsGreen> I have an intel pro wireless 3945 card, by defualt it is impossible to enable monitor mode. I am trying to get kismet to work so obviously monitor mode not working is a very serious problem. I don't know very much about linux so if at all possible try to frame the answer as simply as possible
[11:23] <AlexC_> kharloss: hold on .... you say you found php files in /var/www and think you got hacked??
[11:23] <ubunt1> AlexC_: if i install NIDE
[11:23] <ubunt1> !nide
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <vrkhans> i am making the partitions
[11:24] <ubunt1> AlexC_: install firewall
[11:24] <vrkhans> rightnow
[11:24] <kharloss> i know what folders/scripts  i have in these folders
[11:24] <SmileyLap> TylerIsGreen: some cards just dont support monitormode.... However, try using ethereal, or wireshark as its now called :)
[11:24] <vox754> Centaur5, that's good, keep us informed. But really, ethernet makes lives easier.
[11:24] <loppa> anybody here any good at figuring out wireless connections? like making 'em work.
[11:24] <AlexC_> !enter | vrkhans
[11:24] <ubotu> vrkhans: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:24] <kharloss> this one i never installed
[11:24] <AlexC_> kharloss: what is it called?
[11:24] <ubunt1> kharloss and what is
[11:24] <kharloss> and i really know i don`t installed any mail server
[11:24] <ubunt1> i have installed lampp
[11:25] <r3set> hi, has anyone got an idea what "group descriptors corrupted" can mean?
[11:25] <TylerIsGreen> Does Wireshark dump files in a format that can be read by aircrack utilities
[11:26] <r3set> i get this output after mounting a partition
[11:26] <r3set> better said, can't mount because of that error
[11:26] <rssn> Everyone: Does Ubuntu cooperate with Fluxbox nicely or should I steer clear?
[11:26] <kharloss> AlexC_ : this one
[11:26] <kharloss> http://sourceforge.net/projects/munin/
[11:27] <Wanderer> anyone have any thoughts on the sound in the amd installation?
[11:27] <AlexC_> kharloss: weird,
[11:27] <AlexC_> !anyone | Wanderer
[11:27] <ubotu> Wanderer: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:27] <loppa> I need some help with my wireless, anybody up for it?
[11:27] <AlexC_> !anyone | loppa
[11:27] <ubotu> loppa: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:27] <AlexC_> it's got mad in here! I perfered it when this channel was quite and not half the world in it =( lol. Oh well!
[11:27] <Centaur5> vox754: I will definitely keep you posted as I hope to start moving a lot more people over with April's release.
[11:27] <AlexC_> Bye all!
[11:28] <GenNMX> !usb
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <ubunt1> AlexC why man stay here.
[11:28] <Wanderer> AlexC: scroll back, I asked the original question and asked if anyone had any ideas incase I messed the reply in the scrollage
[11:28] <sstchur> What would cause frequent disconnects on my wireless network? (same card seems fine under Windows)
[11:28] <Wanderer> much less painful than re-spamming the whole thing again
[11:28] <Sanne> rssn: as far as I know, you can either run fluxbox on it's own, or exchange it for the gnome window manager. There's even a fluxbuntu, iirc.
[11:29] <hairulfr> rssn: #fluxbuntu
[11:29] <Wanderer> sstchur: very possible it's just a timeout value not used by windows.   What happens if you ping across the network for a while?
[11:29] <Wanderer> I just upgraded my laptop from edgy i386 to edgy amd64.  Same hardware, just whacked the disk and re-installed.  Now I get no sound.  Anyone have any ideas?  Toshiba Satellite
[11:29] <GenNMX> What do I need to restart to have Ubuntu re-detect a USB Keyboard & Mouse?
[11:29] <vox754> Centaur5, that sounds nice. Drapper seemed good. Edgy is great, and Feisty, well I hope it gets better.
[11:29] <ripperD> GenNMX: you shouldn't need to restart anything
[11:29] <sstchur> Wanderer: well, it's odd.  It will connect fine initially, but then disconnect me after a while -- subsequent attempts to reconnect almost always fail until I reset my router.
[11:30] <Flannel> vox754: Feisty is still alpha software, of course it's not ready yet.
[11:30] <Sanne> rssn: I have openbox installed in addition to kubuntu/kde desktop for audio work, I can switch nicely at login.
[11:30] <GenNMX> ripperD: I'm using a USB share switch
[11:30] <ompaul> GenNMX unplug and plug in again
[11:30] <ubunt1> rippeD i have optical mouse and i want to use wheel
[11:30] <Supaplex> Wanderer: install alsa?
[11:30] <Wanderer> sstchur: does it disconnect you only if yo've been idle or when active?
[11:30] <GenNMX> ompaul: Not working.
[11:30] <GenNMX> ompaul: This is connected to a hub.
[11:30] <vox754> Flannel, that's right, thanks for the info.
[11:30] <Wanderer> Supaplex: yeah, alsa is there, and kmixer shows the same controls I had before the wipe, but sound is 0, I've checked the hardware dial on the front of the laptop
[11:30] <Centaur5> vox754: Dapper was great and Edgy was much faster.  Having more time put onto Edgy to help Feisty more stable as well as the speed increase I hope it will turn out to be an excellent product.
[11:30] <ompaul> GenNMX,  can you get it two real connections on the machine?
[11:30] <ripperD> GenNMX: have you tried in windows?  What does dmesg say?
[11:30] <sstchur> Wanderer: I've only noticed the disconnect after periods of inactivity -- not while I'm using it
[11:31] <GenNMX> ripperD: I'm using the hub in Windows right now to type this message (it's a USB share switch)
[11:31] <arrenlex> What does ls $(yes) do? I saw it on bash.org as a "trash your computer and laugh at the n00b" command and I'm curious what it does but would rather not run it.
[11:31] <sstchur> Wanderer: is there some sort of "keep alive" thing I need to set with wpa_supplicant?
[11:31] <Wanderer> sstchur: odd,  what happens if you do a "while /bin/true do; ping -c 5 <some host>; sleep 10; done
[11:31] <OCgraphikz> how do I run .bins?
[11:31] <Wanderer> not that I know of, none in mine
[11:31] <lufis> OCgraphikz: double-click?
[11:31] <Wanderer> OCgraphikz: don't think you can, that'sa mac archive
[11:32] <ripperD> GenNMX: on the same machine as the ubuntu one? or the other machine on the share switch
[11:32] <arrenlex> OCgraphikz: chmod +x <file.bin> && ./<file.bin>
[11:32] <OCgraphikz> thx
[11:32] <kditty> how do i change my user password?
[11:32] <ompaul> kditty, for what?
[11:32] <DinkyDogg> Hey. When I boot ubuntu on my desktop from the LiveCD, the screen is really glitchy. Streaked with colors and everything. Any way to modify my X configuration from the command line to try to make it work? I am a newbie and could use some help.
[11:32] <arrenlex> kditty: sudo password <username>
[11:32] <lufis> I'm having trouble accessing my cd drive. It typically was mounted as /dev/hdc, but now that point doesn't exist. mount isn't showing it as mounted, even though I can access it. Could it have changed names or something?
[11:32] <kditty> ompaul, cos my girls is a bitch
[11:32] <sstchur> Wanderer: how do i execute that?  I'm not familiar with that
[11:32] <kditty> lol
[11:32] <GenNMX> Ah OK, dmesg is saying it IS detected. It must be because I'm running X right now, and it isn't setup in X.
[11:33] <arrenlex> kditty: sudo passwd <username>
[11:33] <kditty> jk ompaul, for ubuntu
[11:33] <pianoboy3333> I'm having some issues getting my _audio_ input to come out as my output, can anyone help?
[11:33] <pppoe_dude> pianoboy3333: did u select 'pcm' as the capture device?
[11:33] <Hia> how can I login as root to edit the etc/apt/sources.ist ?
[11:33] <pppoe_dude> !sudo > Hia
[11:33] <Paula> cze
[11:33] <Xzenome> kditty, you can change your own password like this "passwd <newpassword>
[11:33] <kditty> sudo password then my username, password as the new password arrenlex?
[11:34] <vox754> lufis, it is mounted in /media/cdrom with a link to /cdrom
[11:34] <Xzenome> Hia, type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:34] <arrenlex> kditty: sudo passwd <username>. Then it'll prompt you for a new password.
[11:34] <Paula> jest kto z Polski?
[11:34] <lufis> vox754: alright, one sec
[11:34] <DinkyDogg> Hey. When I boot ubuntu on my desktop from the LiveCD, the screen is really glitchy. Streaked with colors and everything. Any way to modify my X configuration from the command line to try to make it work? I am a newbie and could use some help.
[11:34] <jrib> !pl | Paula
[11:34] <ubotu> Paula: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:34] <pianoboy3333> pppoe_dude: I'm not trying to record something, I have no problems recording, but my friend is able to check input as output in gnome-volume-control, and he can like speak into his microphone, or plug his guitar in, and hear it through his speakers. No, he does not plug his guitar right into his speakers.
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> DinkyDogg: ya just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X like you would normally do
[11:34] <ompaul> kditty, in a console >>passwd NewPassword<<  and please be respectful towards others here thanks - we have many nationalities and jokes may not travel well
[11:34] <arrenlex> kditty: Actually, just enter the "passwd" command and it'll default to the current user.
[11:35] <DinkyDogg> pppoe_dude: I don't have linux installed yet. I'm trying to install from the liveCD. How can I edit the xorg.conf?
[11:35] <ubunt1> hey with what program i can mount iso
[11:35] <ubunt1> !iso
[11:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[11:35] <ompaul> kditty, in a console >>passwd<< then enter  >>yourNewPassword<<   sorry typo
[11:35] <kditty> thanks
[11:35] <arrenlex> ubunt1: mount -o loopback <file.iso> <folder>
[11:35] <ubunt1> arrenlex mannnnnnnnnnnnnn thanks
[11:35] <arrenlex> ubunu1: sorry, that's -o loop
[11:36] <ubunt1> arrenlex hmmm
[11:36] <webmasterjo> Hi all
[11:36] <ubunt1> arrenlex: but what mean moutpoint
[11:36] <Hia> thanks alot. I can edit it now. my first time trying linux :)
[11:36] <Hia> I'm trying to install MPlayer
[11:36] <ubunt1> arrenlex: mountpoint
[11:36] <arrenlex> ubunt1: Mountpoint is the folder where you want to mount the file.
[11:36] <eobanb> Hia, this is your first time with linux and you're already trying to install mplayer?
[11:36] <jrib> Hia: mplayer is in the multiverse repository, use your favorite package manager
[11:36] <ubunt1> sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>
[11:36] <arrenlex> ubunt1: mount -o loop <file.iso> <mountpoint>
[11:36] <eobanb> :)
[11:37] <ubunt1> now lets see i have the file in /home/ubuntu64/Desktop/STARCRAFT.part1
[11:37] <arrenlex> !mplayer | Hia
[11:37] <ubotu> Hia: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:37] <eobanb> starcraft runs so awesomely under wine
[11:37] <arrenlex> !botsnack
[11:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:37] <ubunt1> eobanb what???
[11:37] <badagentx> How come I can't use any mixer programs and amarok can't access my audio when I'm logged in as a user?
[11:37] <Hia> thanks :) you guys are great. gonna try now
[11:37] <ubunt1> eobanb: it work or not work.
[11:37] <jrib> badagentx: are you in the "audio" group?
[11:37] <eobanb> ubunt1, hm?
[11:38] <badagentx> idk i'll check
[11:38] <ubunt1> eobanb: starcraft?
[11:38] <eobanb> ubunt1, yeah.
[11:38] <OCgraphikz> wow
[11:38] <GenNMX> OK, next problem -- whenever I try to do "cat file1 > file2", I always get "bash: permission denied". Even when I sudo.
[11:38] <eobanb> every time i've tried it it's been flawless on wine.
[11:38] <OCgraphikz> why would steam have an exe in the linux HLDS
[11:38] <lufis> vox754: I'm trying to rip a cd using a script called crip. I specified the drive to be at /media/cdrom, now i'm getting this: cannot read toc [Inappropriate ioctl for device]  [/cdrom]  at /usr/share/perl5/CDDB_get.pm line 135.
[11:38] <arrenlex> GenNMX: cat file1 | sudo tee file2
[11:38] <webmasterjo> so umm yaa cool, whats up people ?
[11:39] <johnny2> hi folks, anybody here have trouble with the bcm43xx drivers on edgy?
[11:39] <eobanb> webmasterjo, for small talk i'd try #ubuntu-offtopic; this channel is for pressing tech support questions.
[11:39] <ubunt1> eobanb: and how is looking
[11:39] <badagentx> I'm not part of the audio group
[11:39] <johnny2> and also use networkmanager
[11:39] <eobanb> ubunt1 ??
[11:39] <webmasterjo> eobanb thanks
[11:39] <vox754> lufis, that's heavy. I thought, yours was a simpler problem. I've never burned a thing with Ubuntu. Sorry.
[11:39] <sstchur> What's the likliness that I'd have better luck with NDISWrapper over Madwifi for my Atheros based card?
[11:39] <ubunt1> eobanb: starcraft
[11:39] <lufis> vox754: alright, thanks anyhow
[11:39] <eobanb> ubunt1, i just told you, it works perfectly
[11:39] <Zaggynl> johnny2, the native broadcam drivers didnt' work well for me either, try the windows drivers with ndiswrapper
[11:40] <johnny2> well..
[11:40] <johnny2> when i was using hoary i did use ndiswrapper
[11:40] <johnny2> and then when i upgraded to dapper, it switched to the native drivers
[11:40] <vox754> sstchur, it doesn't hurt trying.
[11:40] <johnny2> and they worked great
[11:40] <johnny2> including wpa2
[11:40] <ubunt1> eobanb:  THanks.
[11:40] <johnny2> but since upgrading to edgy.. not so well
[11:40] <GenNMX> arrenlex: OK, that doesn't merge the two files, just does a cat of file1.
[11:40] <Zaggynl> johnny2, for me too, but I needed the ISA login support thingy
[11:40] <johnny2> ndiswrapper doesn't support wpa2 does it?
[11:40] <badagentx> Also when I try to run anything with ksudo it tells me i entered the wrong password
[11:40] <johnny2> ISA?
[11:40] <Zaggynl> johnny2, yup
[11:41] <arrenlex> GenNMX: It does exactly what your command would do.
[11:41] <Zaggynl> Forgot the right name
[11:41] <Zaggynl> 802 something
[11:41] <johnny2> hmm?
[11:41] <Zaggynl> I use it at school for logging in with username/passw
[11:41] <arrenlex> GenNMX: If you're looking for cat file1 >> file2, that's cat file1 | sudo tee -a file2
[11:41] <Zaggynl> :o
[11:41] <jrib> badagentx: add yourself to the audio group, once that is resolved, we can troubleshoot the other problem
[11:41] <badagentx> I just added my self to the audio group
[11:41] <will_> How should I install Warsow?
[11:41] <will_> http://www.warsow.net/
[11:41] <ubunt1> mountpoint???
[11:42] <jrib> badagentx: does your audio work after you login again?
[11:42] <johnny2> i'd like to fix up the problem with the native drivers if it possible
[11:42] <ubunt1> mountpoint can it be from where is the file
[11:42] <GenNMX> arrenlex: Whoops, I wanted >>, not >
[11:42] <arrenlex> GenNMX: If you're looking for cat file1 >> file2, that's cat file1 | sudo tee -a file2
[11:42] <GenNMX> arrenlex: Why isn't redirection allowed anyway?
[11:43] <will_> How should I install Warsow?
[11:43] <will_> http://www.warsow.net/
[11:43] <arrenlex> GenNMX: Because the redirection is handled by the shell, not by the program. So even if you run the program with sudo, the redirection is handled by the shell, which is not running with root permissions.
[11:43] <ikonia> will_: is it not in the ubuntu repo ?
[11:43] <woodwizzle_> Is it possible to get compiz or beryl running. If I am using the open source ati driver and not fglrx in feisty?
[11:43] <vox754> johnny2, ndiswrapper is the bomb, you should try it.
[11:43] <will_> ikonia, No.
[11:43] <johnny2> i'd think that.. if i hadn't been using the native drivers for the past year with no problems
[11:43] <ikonia> woodwizzle_: 1.) fesity questions are in #ubuntu+1 2.) beryl questions are in #ubuntu-effects 3.) the open driver doesn't have great acceleration
[11:43] <Zaggynl> ndiswrapper is a nice temporary solution until the wireless support for linux catches up
[11:44] <bkervaski> Is there some secret to enable routing on Ubuntu?  sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward just gives permission denied.
[11:44] <ikonia> will_: then read the instructions on the application website
[11:44] <GenNMX> arrenlex: Odd...I could have sworn it worked fine on my old Debian system. Must have different rc.
[11:44] <ikonia> bkervaski: that shouldn't happen
[11:44] <arrenlex> GenNMX: No. Not with sudo. I run debian.
[11:44] <xenoborg> bkervaski, do it as root
[11:44] <johnny2> Zaggynl, like i said.. if it didn't work perfectly before.. i'd still be using it :)
[11:44] <will_> ikonia, There are none.
[11:44] <bruenig> bkervaski, if that command is right then do "sudo bash -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[11:44] <bkervaski> It's a sudo environment, I don't think root is enabled.
[11:44] <ikonia> will_: contact the application owners then
[11:44] <ikonia> bkervaski: sudo should work
[11:44] <loppa> ikonia: what was that thing i'd have to do to check if the drivers for my graphics card were compitable with ubuntu?
[11:44] <jrib> bkervaski: in your command, redirection does not happen as sudo
[11:45] <arrenlex> bruenig: LOL XD just use tee
[11:45] <bruenig> bkervaski, the problem is that sudo is being applied to the echo, and not the >
[11:45] <Zaggynl> johnny2, personally I'm happy with whatever works (:
[11:45] <ikonia> loppa: we know its not
[11:45] <ubunt1>  sudo mount -o loop STARCRAFT.iso /Desktop/STARCRAFT.part1
[11:45] <Zaggynl> bcm43xx drivers worked for me at home, but not for school :(
[11:45] <bruenig> when he knows this
[11:45] <bkervaski> Ahh.
[11:45] <loppa> ikonia: so no use in trying anything there then?
[11:45] <ubunt1> mount: mount point /Desktop/STARCRAFT.part1 does not exist
[11:45] <ikonia> loppa: no
[11:45] <arrenlex> bruenig: cat file1 | tee file2 == cat file1 > file2.    cat file1 | tee -a file2 -- cat file1 >> file2
[11:45] <Zaggynl> ubunt1, have you made a directory there called like that?
[11:46] <lisapc> when installing Azureus, what port should I chose for best security?
[11:46] <ikonia> ubunt1: I have the same problem - investigating
[11:46] <arrenlex> bruenig: For root, | sudo tee
[11:46] <bruenig> teeis longer
[11:46] <ikonia> ubunt1: sudo fails - root works
[11:46] <loppa> ikonia: great. I also have som issues regarding my wireless, could you help me there?
[11:46] <arrenlex> bruenig: Are you kidding? Look at thwat you suggested.
[11:46] <eobanb> !wireless
[11:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:46] <ikonia> loppa: does it involve ndiswrapper
[11:46] <ubunt1> Zaggynl: whyy it is only a mount
[11:46] <OCgraphikz> Could someone help me install HLDS?
[11:46] <bruenig> mine just adds a bash -c
[11:46] <ubunt1> Zaggynl:  i don't want to make a directory
[11:46] <ikonia> OCgraphikz: whats HLDS
[11:46] <ubunt1> ikonia and how you make it
[11:46] <Zaggynl> ubunt1, afaik, I have to do that for mount points
[11:46] <loppa> ikonia: have no idea what that is, but maybe. : |
[11:46] <Zaggynl> mkdir /mnt/something
[11:46] <bruenig> yours adds a | sudo tee
[11:47] <Zaggynl> mount flags stuff
[11:47] <arrenlex> bash -c "" >, which is 12 characters plus spaces. Mine is | tee , which is 5 with spaces.
[11:47] <ikonia> loppa: I'm not interested if its ndiswrapper
[11:47] <ikonia> ubunt1: make what ?
[11:47] <ubunt1> ikonia mount: mount point /Desktop/STARCRAFT.part1 does not exist
[11:47] <bruenig> arrenlex, no yours is sudo tee
[11:47] <loppa> ikonia: whats ndiswrapper then?
[11:47] <arrenlex> bruenig:yours is sudo bash
[11:47] <Zaggynl> !ndiswrapper
[11:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:47] <bkervaski> Anyone here use racoon?  Trying to establish a tunnel and I keep geting "no suitable proposal found"
[11:47] <ikonia> ubunt1: sorry - I was talking about ip_forwarding
[11:47] <ubunt1> Ikonia ok no problem
[11:47] <lisapc> bruenig when installing Azureus, what port should I chose for best security?
[11:47] <bruenig> arrenlex, oh yeah, he could just do echo, no longer sudo echo
[11:47] <bruenig> good point
[11:47] <ubunt1> Zaggynl: and what there is coming >
[11:47] <arrenlex> *wins*
[11:48] <bruenig> lisapc, I wouldn't worry about security
[11:48] <Hia> !codecs
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:48] <bruenig> lisapc, I use 56789
[11:48] <lisapc> bruenig what port I chose?
[11:48] <lisapc> bruenig was 56789 the default?
[11:49] <ubunt1> Zaggynl: ok i made it
[11:49] <bruenig> lisapc, no, it doesn't really matter, just pick one. I just needed to choose one so that I could forward it.
[11:49] <Zaggynl> ubunt1, try the sudo mount -o loop STARCRAFT.iso /Desktop/STARCRAFT.part1
[11:50] <lisapc> bruenig forward it??
[11:50] <Zaggynl> ima go sleep
[11:50] <mixandgo> whats wrong with automatix ?
[11:50] <bruenig> lisapc, don't worry about it, just pick a port and go with it
[11:50] <mixandgo> seems to be down
[11:50] <bruenig> !automatix | mixandgo
[11:50] <ubotu> mixandgo: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:50] <Zaggynl> mixandgo, broken stuff too much
[11:50] <NET||abuse> boy oh boy.. can't find a tool for ubuntu as handy as editplus2 for windows
[11:50] <NET||abuse> anyone able to suggest something as easy to use?
[11:50] <lisapc> bruenig do I have to open that port in my firewall?
[11:50] <mixandgo> Zaggynl, what do you mean ?
[11:50] <NET||abuse> most important, easy ftp setup
[11:50] <bruenig> lisapc, for best performance yes
[11:51] <Kevin77> Hello
[11:51] <Zilulil> anybody know a way to get AA to work with wine?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> NET||abuse,  assume that we dont know what every little windows program does... :)
[11:51] <vox754> NET||abuse, what does it do? You a programmer?
[11:51] <MadMatt> has anyone had problems with games and the go 7700?
[11:51] <eobanb> is it  just a text editor
[11:51] <lisapc> bruenig cant someone then gain access to my system if I open a port for Azerus?
[11:51] <xenoborg> zaggyn1: easyubuntu
[11:51] <wkdown> how do I move data from an hda partition to my hdb?
[11:51] <NET||abuse> vox754, hehe, programmer,, i'm an enthusiast who does some websites
[11:51] <mixandgo> !workforme
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <Dr_willis> wkdown,  mount them both.. copy the files over?
[11:51] <bruenig> !worksforme
[11:51] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:51] <mixandgo> !WorksForMe
[11:52] <Kevin77> join #ubuntu-education
[11:52] <bruenig> lisapc, I generally don't worry about security so I may not be best to answer your question.
[11:52] <MadMatt> has anyone had problems with skipping on games and the go 7700?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> !willworkforfood
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about willworkforfood - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <NET||abuse> vox754, I am looking to code up my latest project which i've been working on through the editplus app on my windows machine, but i'm on the road, mylappy is Ubuntu only
[11:52] <bruenig> !botsnack
[11:52] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:52] <NET||abuse> so i need a tool to use that can be roughly equivelant to EP2
[11:52] <wkdown> Dr_willis: ok, I mounted the hdb to /mnt/hdb and copied them over ... so thats all I have to do? they are on that hard drive now?
[11:52] <jrib> NET||abuse: umm what is EP2?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> NET||abuse,  theres dozens of editors out there.... :)
[11:52] <eobanb> NET||abuse, so it's a text editor..
[11:52] <NET||abuse> jrib, www.editplus.com
[11:53] <Dr_willis> wkdown,  if you copied the files to the other drive and it was properly mounted... yes.. they should be there.
[11:53] <jrib> NET||abuse: gedit?
[11:53] <xenoborg> wkdown: what's the point?
[11:53] <bruenig> NET||abuse, yeah gedit can do all that
[11:53] <NET||abuse> yeh, a text editor,, does various code highlighting, and has very nice ftp integration
[11:53] <bruenig> syntax highlighting basically
[11:53] <fxr> what are my options for remote controling a ubuntu desktop from another ubuntu desktop.. i dont like vnc.. i want my remote desktop to appear in a window on my local desktop
[11:53] <NET||abuse> gedit can do ftp easily?
[11:53] <Dr_willis> dosent sound so special NET||abuse  :) lots of editors can do that
[11:53] <wkdown> xenoborg: I am installing a different Linux and don't want to lose my data when I repartition
[11:54] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, just that editplus is so well matured and simplisticly celever
[11:54] <xenoborg> wkdown: then you should be fine
[11:54] <NET||abuse> clever
[11:54] <betatux> NET||abuse, what main programming language you going to use ? Zend Studio is a great IDE for php and other languages , but it's not free tho
[11:54] <jrib> NET||abuse: do you like vim?
[11:54] <wkdown> ok good to know, thanks Dr_willis and xenoborg
[11:54] <NET||abuse> betatux, i have zend studio
[11:54] <NET||abuse> betatux, but it's heavy for my little lappy (old machine)
[11:54] <betatux> NET||abuse, aha , i see
[11:56] <loppa> is there any way to override my resolution? So that I could set it to 1280x800 instead of 1024x768.
[11:56] <OCgraphikz> half life dedicated server
[11:56] <OCgraphikz> i extracted all the files
[11:56] <Pelo> !restricted
[11:56] <OCgraphikz> got the updates
[11:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:56] <jrib> loppa: system > preferences > screenr esolution
[11:56] <johnny2> anybody seen a 2.6.20 kernel for ubuntu?
[11:56] <eobanb> loppa, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <OCgraphikz> now i am trying to figure out how to run it
[11:56] <NET||abuse> ok, so in gedit, i try to "Open Location" i stick in ftp://x.x.x.x/web/myproject1/index.html
[11:56] <johnny2> one that includes the patches
[11:56] <eobanb> !resolution
[11:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:56] <xenoborg> loppa: do you have ati
[11:56] <NET||abuse> it's not working
[11:57] <vox754> loppa, type "gnome-display-properties"
[11:57] <loppa> jrib, are only three options there.
[11:57] <loppa> eoband, what will that do?
[11:57] <jrib> loppa: then see what ubotu just said
[11:57] <NET||abuse> was just lookin at quanta , is there an easy ftp plugin for it at all??
[11:58] <OCgraphikz> i may have it
[11:58] <NET||abuse> or is bluefish any use?
[11:58] <xenoborg> loppa: if you have an ati card, you need to install 915resolution
[11:59] <loppa> xenoborg: i think ive got a  via card actually.
[11:59] <vox754> loppa, VIA card?! That's interesting. Try "man via"
[11:59] <ikonia> jrib: he doesn't have ati
[11:59] <loppa> vox754, why is that interesting?
[11:59] <turbolover> how do i find out what version kernel i am using?
[11:59] <ikonia> vox754: we went through this morning
[12:00] <ikonia> vox754: its a crap card, with poor driver support, he's better off on vesa
[12:00] <jrib> ikonia: ?
[12:00] <Steve^> if I hit ctrl-alt-f1, how do I get back to gnome?
[12:00] <ikonia> jrib: sorry - wrong person
[12:00] <xenoborg> turbolover: uname -r
[12:00] <jrib> Steve^: alt-f7
[12:01] <vox754> ikonia, oh, that's bad. But there IS a via driver and openchrome, at least something better than vesa.