syamajalae is building now12:32
syamajalai forgot to install the png dev libs the first time i built it12:32
syamajalait got stuck at building the wm because edje didn't know what to do with the png files for something12:32
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syamajalaits not bad12:45
syamajalai'm gonna build entrance now12:45
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syamajalai used to have a cluster of amd64 systems for building stuff12:48
syamajalaused to maintain a 64bit port of a distro12:48
syamajalabut i just stopped one day and sold all my systems12:48
maxamillionoh wow ... a cluster and a maintainer, you have been quite the busy bee12:49
maxamilliongotta run ... getting off work12:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dididie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:32
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moparisthebesthow can I edit what is in the applications menu?02:23
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magic_ninjahow do i start another virtual terminal02:42
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Sharnmoparisthebest, I'm assuming you mean in XFCE. Apps > Settings > Menu Editor02:44
moparisthebestSharn, thats the first place I looked02:49
moparisthebestbut I cant edit the contents of each folder02:49
moparisthebestsystem, network, etc etc02:49
syamajalai can't get entrance to work02:51
syamajalait looks cool though.02:51
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kryosAnyone know where detailed info on editing xorg, etc for old machine using serial mouse,...03:03
moparisthebesthow can I refresh the desktop?03:12
moparisthebestI just deleted all of the files on there but they still show03:12
syamajalaanyone wanna paste there menu.lst03:12
moparisthebestI can syamajala, but its pretty edited03:13
Grey_Lokimoparisthebest, I think 'f5' does the trick03:13
syamajalathats ok03:13
syamajalai'm trying to get usplash to work03:13
moparisthebesthaha, can't get easier than that, thanks Grey_Loki03:13
moparisthebestI had to disable the splash for my video card syamajala03:13
moparisthebeststill want it?03:14
syamajalanot really then...03:14
moparisthebestit wasn't playing nice with nvidia, idk why03:14
syamajalai'm using yaboot anyway...03:17
moparisthebestis that a boot manager?03:18
moparisthebest(I assume so)03:18
syamajalaits for ppc03:18
moparisthebestoh ok03:18
syamajalai got a splash screen03:18
syamajalabut its ugly03:18
moparisthebestIve only ever used GRUB03:18
moparisthebestLILO once, but it was a bad time :P03:18
syamajalai wonder if i can still pass vga=03:19
SharnGRUB > LILO03:27
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fxrwhere would i get amd64 versions of these deb packages, kernel-package libncurses5-dev .. i wanna burn them to cd and move to an uninternet connected pc03:30
moparisthebestthe amd64 section of the repository03:31
moparisthebestI believe it uses http protocol, so c&p the url into your browser and get the packages you need03:32
fxrok right so im having trouble navigating it....03:32
moparisthebestI take it you aren't on a 64bit machine right now?03:33
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fxrno, its sitting beside me.. its not on the internet.. i need these packages to take to it.. m on my 32bit machine..03:34
kalikianaHow can I open/convert a MS Works file?03:35
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posingaspopularkalikiana: open office wont work?03:35
vidd_laptopwhat would cause x to crash when changing the resolution?03:36
kalikianaposingaspopular, I don't have OOo atm, would it open those files?03:37
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vidd_laptopkalikiana, what files?03:37
posingaspopularkalikiana: im pretty sure it does, give me a second to confirm03:37
kalikianavidd, it's some wps file I got in a mail.03:37
vidd_laptopnot familiar with that extention03:38
kalikianaMe neither. :/03:38
vidd_laptopwhat app made it?03:38
Grey_Lokikalikiana, I usually return said file with a little note explaining how propriatary formats are killing global communications :P03:38
posingaspopularkalikiana: no. works sucks, and even OOo wont open it03:39
kalikianaGrey_Loki, It's from a relative, so if it works I don't want to bother them. :)03:39
kalikianaposingaspopular, Thank you for trying.03:40
vidd_laptopthey used M$ works to make?03:40
kalikianaI guess so, it comes with some PCs preinstalled, doesn't it?03:40
Grey_LokiYeah, .wps is a wordperfect document.03:41
vidd_laptopOOo cant open wordperfect documents?03:41
posingaspopularvidd_laptop: apparently not.03:42
posingaspopularhow ghei is that03:42
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fxrright i just have to find, libncurses5-dev does anyone know where on the ubuntu repos tree this package lives.. ??03:43
kalikianaGrey_Loki, MS recommends to save in a different format to open it in their own office :P03:43
Grey_LokiYeah, I just read that03:44
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viddos[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz @ 2.27GHz]  mem[Physical : 439MB, 73.5% free]  disk[Total : 108.80GB, 93.10% Free]  video[VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP]  sound[] 03:49
syamajalawoot woot03:50
viddgot an issue....03:50
syamajalasuspend-to-disk works now03:50
IcarusJust a very quick question about xubuntu. Although xfce is fantastic, it's still not light-weight enough for me. I want to put [open|flux|black] box on instead. Can anyone point me in the direction to start a different window manager on boot?03:50
viddi tried to change the resolution on this new box and i just get the log on screen03:51
Jester45Icarus: sudo apt-get install *box03:52
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Jester45Icarus: then logout and click on sessions then click your *box then mark it as defualt03:53
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IcarusJester: Will that change the scripts to start the new wm automatically, I will I need to edit them manually?03:54
rswitzercan anyone help me configure multiple sound cards?03:54
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Jester45Icarus: when you install the new wm then it gets added to the possible sessions then if you make it default you will normaly login to the new wm and not xfce03:57
IcarusJester: Excellent, thanks for the help mate!03:58
Jester45Icarus: np04:02
vidd_laptopis there an issue with the "get Xubuntu" link!!!04:05
vidd_laptopgetting 404 Not Found error!!!!04:05
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vidd_laptopi have a desktop (just built) that has a 64 bit intel processor that will only install from the x86 install disk....04:07
vidd_laptopnow i cant get it to boot into a terminal window or change the resolution04:07
vidd_laptopis this a known issue?04:08
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neighborleehi there04:10
neighborleeI just loaded this up..works great so far, although where is the icon notifier of updates...04:10
neighborleealso I installed nvidia-glx, but sudo nvidia-glx-config enable says: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed .??\04:11
vidd_laptopit is disabled by default04:11
neighborleethx anyone04:11
neighborleeahh why is that ?04:11
neighborleeodd, I thought xuubntu was ubuntu just lighter afa wm goes04:12
vidd_laptopApplications>system>update manager04:12
vidd_laptopI think it is because there is a known issue with it04:12
vidd_laptopor there was....04:12
neighborleeeven in ubuntu, or just atm with xubuntu04:12
neighborleehm it says I can  change this behavior04:13
vidd_laptopupgrading from dapper to edgy...still is for all so far as i know04:13
neighborleesoftware sources on the internet updates tab04:13
vidd_laptopyes...you can.....04:13
neighborleena it works fine in edgy last I checked04:13
vidd_laptopjust disabled by default04:13
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neighborleeany idea about the nvidia thing04:15
neighborleeI had same problem in edgy when I tried nvidia-glx04:15
vidd_laptopsorry....im clueless04:15
neighborleeah ok np04:15
neighborleethx anyway04:15
syamajalaanyone know where i can find old versions of packages?04:18
vidd_laptopwhat packages you need04:20
syamajalai found it04:21
vidd_laptopyer too quick04:21
vidd_laptop=] 04:21
underdog5004I've got an nvidia Geforce2 go in my lappy...anyone have success with nvidia binary drivers or anything else to enable 3d?04:21
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underdog5004vidd_laptop, how? I'm a total noob...04:23
vidd_laptopgive me a second (or two) to fid the help page......04:23
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vidd_laptopunderdog5004, you trying to get beryl running?04:25
vidd_laptopsection 2 of that page is the open drvers04:25
underdog5004yep. thanks a lot!04:26
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moparisthebestit runs good:04:26
moparisthebestside view:04:27
vidd_laptopit ran great on my lappy for about 25 minutes04:27
vidd_laptop(then i got bored with it and shut it off)04:27
underdog5004I can't wait for beryl! I'm so excited!04:27
underdog5004you...shut it off?04:27
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vidd_laptopit is a resource drain04:28
moparisthebestyea, I agree, not as exciting as it looks04:28
moparisthebestits fun to play with04:28
vidd_laptop(for about 25 minutes)04:28
moparisthebestI ran it for a few minutes and turned it off on KDE04:28
underdog5004lol, I just wanna show it off to my pro-vista friend04:28
moparisthebestbut then I switched to xfce and got it configured nice and run it all the time04:29
moparisthebestit kind of helps organize stuff04:29
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moparisthebestand I can watch the irc backwards while I program :P04:29
underdog5004yeah, just trying out xubuntu...I was mainly a kubuntu man...but then I got a lappy...a 733Mhz lappy04:29
moparisthebestI have 1gb of ram, kde runs fine04:29
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vidd_laptopos[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1400MHz @ 1.40GHz]  mem[Physical : 724MB, 79.7% free]  disk[Total : 24.48GB, 50.10% Free]  video[Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device]  sound[] 04:29
moparisthebestit also runs fine on my cousin's 512mb of ram04:30
vidd_laptopit runs ok04:30
moparisthebestthats about what my cousin runs, 512 ram and amd athlon xp 2200+04:30
underdog5004I've got KDE cooking on a 900Mhz box with half gig ram...it's ok...04:30
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=== vidd_laptop is putting XU on a desktop for the boy.....
underdog5004I've done a couple of charity computers at the shop where I work...04:32
vidd_laptopthe boy's system:04:34
vidd_laptopos[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz @ 2.27GHz]  mem[Physical : 439MB, 73.5% free]  disk[Total : 108.80GB, 93.10% Free]  video[VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP]  sound[] 04:34
vidd_laptopnot exactly charity.....04:34
underdog5004uh...yeah...they were free of charge...had kubuntu on them...I didn't charge anything...I'd say that's charity...04:35
underdog5004oh...you mean yours...my bad04:35
vidd_laptopno...i mean the boy's comp.....04:35
underdog5004gotcha, my bad04:36
vidd_laptophe is (FINALLY) fire-ing M$04:38
underdog5004very cool04:38
vidd_laptopno more spending days off disinfecting his system.....04:38
underdog5004ummm, I'm looking at the link you sent me...I can't find where to install the driver...04:39
underdog5004I think this'll work:   https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html04:39
vidd_laptopdid you run those lines of code in terminal?04:40
underdog5004yeah, I got direct rendering: no04:40
vidd_laptopit helps to check to see if the stuff is alrady installed04:40
underdog5004what do you mean?04:41
vidd_laptopi see you found the link.....04:41
vidd_laptoprunning the code checks to see if the stuff needed is already installed....04:41
vidd_laptopyou got "NO" so it is not04:42
vidd_laptopand you found the link to follow to GET the stuff installed04:42
underdog5004working on it now04:42
vidd_laptopthe NICE thing about the boy's system is that it has NEVER been infested with M$04:43
vidd_laptophe built the system (with my supervision) from parts04:44
underdog5004really? That's a surprise in todays immoral world, lol04:44
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mptechdoes xubuntu have xfce 4.404:44
vidd_laptopnot yet04:44
underdog5004so now he knows how to use a computer, and it's not just an abstraction.04:44
vidd_laptopnext release04:44
mptechvidd_laptop, does the Feisty Fawn beta have it?04:44
vidd_laptopand he only fried one board04:45
vidd_laptopnot sure04:45
vidd_laptophavent tried it lately04:45
vidd_laptopacually...he didnt fry any boards,,,,,he tried too though (not on purpose of course)04:46
vidd_laptopnot like when i taught myself how to build systems in the learly 90's....04:46
underdog5004I'm getting an Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! when I do sudo nvidia-glx-config...should I edit my xorg.conf to reflect the change in drivers?04:46
vidd_laptopunderdog5004, i do not know the answer to that04:47
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underdog5004it's cool...I already fucked up my install, I'm gonna reinstall tonight anyway04:47
vidd_laptopi burned up like 12 boards.....04:47
underdog5004looks like it actually worked...04:48
vidd_laptopback in the day when they cost 150$ each....04:48
underdog5004ok, no. I did glxinfo | grep direct and I got direct rendering: No...looks like I'm gonna reinstall now!04:48
vidd_laptoptry to restart x first04:49
underdog5004sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help, either...I've now got these big blanks bars on either side of my screen...04:49
underdog5004oh yeah, I forgot that I didn't just have to log out...I have to restart xserver...my bad...04:49
underdog5004lol, when I logged out again, xserver crashed...reinstall for sure04:50
vidd_laptopdoes underdog5004 get the bernt bread award?04:50
underdog5004more like burnt water!04:51
vidd_laptop[the system is TOAST!] 04:51
underdog5004I'm like a guy in the kitchen...can't do anything well...but I sure can mess stuff up.04:51
vidd_laptopthe burnt bread award=[the system is TOAST!] 04:51
underdog5004yeah, I deserve that for sure04:52
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=== vidd_laptop has earned several dozen such awards
underdog5004lol, good to know I'm not the only one04:53
vidd_laptoplike the first time i attempted to manipulate windows registry in Win95....04:53
underdog5004oh man04:54
underdog5004ugh, left my xubuntu cd at work...have to burn it again...oh well04:54
vidd_laptopthen i discovered you can acually tell the bios that a hard drive has more clusters then it really does.....04:54
underdog5004no way...04:54
underdog5004One time I ran an AMD Athlon without a heatsink for about 20 seconds...then I touched my finger to it to see how hot it was.04:55
vidd_laptopdoing that acually destroys the hard drive04:55
underdog5004I didn't know that.04:56
underdog5004anyway, I had a raw, unhealed...open sore on my finger for about 2 weeks...04:56
underdog5004lucky it cauterized the wound04:56
vidd_laptopi set the jumpers wrong (back when motherboards were ALL jumpers) and set the board on fire04:56
vidd_laptopthat was 800$ worth of education.......04:57
underdog5004lol, I've turned computers on with a flathead screwdriver to the pins on the mobo...repeatedly04:57
vidd_laptopi lever left tools inside the case when powering on04:58
underdog5004oooh, me too04:58
underdog5004I took the heatsink off an old geforce 4...then ran it...it didn't last long04:59
vidd_laptopi did drop a spool of uninsulated copper wire into an open, runnig machine.....04:59
vidd_laptoplearned REAL quick to always kill power before reaching in there....04:59
underdog5004I'm running out of things...05:00
underdog5004yay...the xubuntu cd is burned and installing...05:00
vidd_laptopthat was quick05:00
underdog5004meh, burned at 12x...05:00
underdog5004not quite installing yet...but close!05:01
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underdog5004whoa...I just have k3b check for binary equalness after the burn05:01
vidd_laptopnever know what POS the disk is going into next05:01
vidd_laptopbut if you have a comp that cant burn at 12x, then it cant read a disk burned @ 12x05:02
vidd_laptopthat was a rather cheep lesson for me to learn.....05:03
underdog5004true...I didn't know that was a factor, since the data is the same...05:03
vidd_laptop[back when cd burners cost 400$ and disks were like 12$ a pop] 05:03
underdog5004nice, I remember those days...05:03
underdog5004mid 90's, right?05:03
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vidd_laptoplate 90's acually05:03
vidd_laptopmid 90's you needed to morgage your house.......05:04
underdog5004incredible how easy it is now05:04
vidd_laptopask your 500 employees to take a 1$ an hour paycut....05:05
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underdog5004bummer for you cellofellow05:05
cellofellowyeah, I use QEMU to install other distros.05:05
vidd_laptopwith ramdisks....who needs them?05:05
cellofellowstill, some boxes here don't HAVE qemu and can't run it. They are still rotting in Windows 98/ME.05:06
vidd_laptopi remember when a 512 MEG HD was astronomically huge05:06
cellofellowI remember my first computer. I was about 8. Old cobled together mac. All I remember is I had a 80MB hard drive and Mac OS 8.05:07
cellofellowI use ZIP 100 disks a lot, even installed software on em.05:07
vidd_laptopi remember when floppys were .... well..... floppy05:07
vidd_laptop=] 05:08
cellofellowactually, that was my second computer, first was a little mac laptop with Mac System 6 or 7.05:08
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cellofellowMy dad speaks sometimes of tape cassettes, floppy floppies, and punch cards.05:08
vidd_laptopcellofellow, i was BUILDING comps before you were born05:08
cellofellowyeah, that's a given.05:09
vidd_laptoppunch cards were fun05:09
vidd_laptopalways make sure you number them....05:09
vidd_laptopcompanies paid more for computer time then for employees to use them.....05:10
cellofellowI discovered something called /usr/games/ppt in the bsdgames package that would take a string and print to stdout what a punchcard with that string would look like.05:10
underdog5004ugh, I need more RAM...the livecd is taking forever to load...05:11
=== vidd_laptop NEVER ses the live cd.....
cellofellowand here we are talking about the days when 64k was a lot of ram.05:12
=== vidd_laptop KNOWS hes going to install
=== vidd_laptop remembers when that was alot of HD space
underdog5004maybe I need the alt cd...05:13
underdog5004vidd_laptop, how old _are_ you?05:13
vidd_laptopwill be 3705:13
underdog5004not _too_ old...I'm 1805:14
vidd_laptopadd my daughter and the 3 of you = me05:14
underdog5004rofl...yeah...oh well05:14
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underdog5004vidd_laptop, my burner doesn't support speeds below 4x...05:15
vidd_laptop....where's my cane....05:15
underdog5004weird, no?05:15
vidd_laptopmust be running a winbloze system05:15
vidd_laptopok....im confussed......05:16
vidd_laptopi re-installed....and i still get an x crash when changing screen resolution05:17
underdog5004you got an ati?05:18
vidd_laptopnot sure05:18
vidd_laptopdriver installed was "versa"05:18
underdog5004I"m using kubuntu edgy w/ k3b to burn.05:18
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underdog5004that should work w/ most everything...is it a lappy or a tower?05:19
underdog5004so...take a look inside. Can't be that hard...05:19
vidd_laptopits inigrated05:19
underdog5004oh...so look up your mobo model number05:20
kalikiana_Is there a terminal command to set a file as the new wallpaper?05:20
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underdog5004oh right...ummm...try mesa05:23
vidd_laptop[ctrl] [alt] [f1]  gives a blank screen......05:24
underdog5004weird...I"m no X expert though05:25
vidd_laptopmesa is not listed in dpkg reconconfigure xserver-xorg05:26
vidd_laptopbut via is....05:27
underdog5004lol, whoops, I was thinking of something else, sorry05:27
underdog5004you know as much as I do, I think05:27
underdog5004if not more05:27
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vidd_laptopnow i have tty1-6.....but no xserver05:30
underdog5004and you've tried startx?05:31
=== vidd_laptop rebooted
vidd_laptopFailed to start the Xserver error05:31
vidd_laptopsill having issues05:36
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=== vidd_laptop needs to hit the rack
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fxrwere do i get linux-source from? i am trying to make kernel modules for my RT2571 based USB NIC on AMD64, but the make fails, saying it needs linux source...05:54
neighborleeadding nvidia from addremove ..seems to add the wrong one based on one im seeing with uname -r anyway ..and I ran it 'after' doing system update05:57
neighborleeknown issue ?05:57
neighborleefxr, unless something changed recently..you can easily get them from synaptic, or of course if you rather apt-get from CLI05:58
fxrok great neighborlee.. i need them to get my wireless nic & internet access working on a different pc.. do u know exactly what m lookin for ? so i can download and burn a deb or something to CD..06:00
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neighborleefxr, so your wireless stuff wont even with with ndiswrapper ?06:01
neighborleeor whatever its called..not having one I forget06:01
Jester45your right06:01
Jester45or close06:01
fxrammm, no i havent tried ndiswrapper yet.. m just researching it now.. i am looking for a decent howto for it..06:02
underdog5004sudo ndiswrapper -i windowsinffile.inf06:02
underdog5004I think06:02
grazieneighborlee: there have been quite a few problems matching the kernel and nvidia drivers in the repos recently06:03
neighborleeah ic06:03
neighborleeI knew about them a week ago or so, but figured surely by now the had been resolved ;006:03
neighborleethats really odd06:03
grazieneighborlee: should be sorted by now you'd have thought....suggest searching the forum06:04
underdog5004yeah, and don't forget the meta-package linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic not having the right deps...06:05
neighborleehm ok06:05
underdog5004they fixed that though06:05
fxrwhat do i do if my windows driver is an exe? and ndiswrapper needs an inf06:10
underdog5004look for the inf online06:12
Jester45hehe... my apt-get update is 4mb :) lot-o-packages06:14
underdog5004that's it?06:14
Jester45not the upgrade just the package list06:15
Jester45cool apt has an update06:16
Jester45do you think that edgy will be able to upgrade to feisty ? or will it be messed up like drapper06:21
Jester45i hope so or im staying edgy06:22
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underdog5004anyone know why getautomatix.com is down?06:24
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Jester45what is that anyway06:29
Jester45i hear people taking about it but i never looked into it06:30
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neighborleebasically it looks like I need to reboot and login with new kernel, since nvidia-glx is for 2.6.17-11 not 2.6.17-10 right ?06:35
underdog5004I have no idea. I'm trying to install nvidia-glx-legacy right now...06:35
neighborleeah ok06:36
neighborleewell ill  let you know then how it goes ;)06:36
underdog5004I fucked up my xorg.conf, so I'm reinstalling...with something like a 4x drive...totally sucks06:36
neighborleereinstalling what06:36
neighborleeyou dont mean literally reinstalling buntu do you06:36
Jester45underdog5004:  you could of just reconfigured your xorg06:37
underdog5004oh yeah. my sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work06:37
Jester45takes me 5 mins06:37
underdog5004I ended up with wonky resolutions06:37
underdog5004trust me, I'm a pro at sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg!06:38
Jester45i have constant wonky  resolutions06:38
underdog5004yeah, but unintentional resolutions for me...06:38
Jester45i got 7200x3072 right now06:39
Jester45never can find good wallpapers06:39
underdog5004yech! Dual head?06:40
Jester45tri head06:40
Jester453 of them at 2400x102406:41
underdog5004very nice, very nice indeed06:41
Jester45heh cuts my FPS on games down06:41
Jester45i get problems with xorg also06:41
underdog5004I bet...I was reading about this guy who had a 12 box cluster to do his graphical stuff for his graphics cards...something like that, anyway...06:42
Jester45all 3 moniters were $500 total06:42
underdog5004whoa, super deal!06:42
Jester45i know06:43
Jester45and good res06:43
Jester45look at the size compared to the keyboard06:44
underdog5004yep, that's the one06:44
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underdog5004there was a full article on digg a long time ago06:45
Jester45i got a 2 regular moniter outputs plus a tv one that i got a converter for06:45
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Jester45hey cellofellow06:45
Jester45cellofellow: you know a month ago you all ways seen me join now get to see you06:45
cellofellowI been having a somewhat different schedule.06:46
Jester45cellofellow: have you tried Beryl on xfce? i just cant get it to work06:46
Jester45xgl runs just no beryl06:47
cellofellowI tried once, and it didn't work.06:47
underdog5004I'm heading that direction too, Jester4506:47
Jester45i got it working on kde but no xfce06:47
cellofellowask maxamillion06:47
Jester45i gave up06:48
Jester45tried everything06:48
underdog5004lol, don't tell me that!06:48
Jester45do you have nvidia ?06:49
Jester45if not then your may still have luck06:49
Jester45i tired the beryl projects live cd and... it didnt boot06:49
Jester45it was sad06:49
Jester45so i erased the disc06:50
Jester45and put dsl back on06:50
Jester45cellofellow: i got 80gb of mulitmedia :)06:50
underdog5004dsl kicks major ass06:51
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neighborleenot our dsl..cable stomps all over it06:57
neighborleefor now anyway06:57
underdog5004I meant Damn Small Linux (www.damnsmalllinux.org)...A complete distro in 50 Megs06:59
bigfuzzyjesusanyone in here familier with mythtv07:18
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bigfuzzyjesussup DarthLappy07:24
DarthLappy'Lo bigfuzzyjesus07:28
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bigfuzzyjesusDarthLappy, have you ever used mythtv07:35
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DarthLappybigfuzzyjesus: Nope.07:42
DarthLappyI've been meaning to though.07:42
bigfuzzyjesusim looking into it07:43
bigfuzzyjesususing a computer i already have as the backend07:43
bigfuzzyjesusand using a mini itx for the front end07:43
DarthLappyI'd just like some way to be able to watch TV on my computer though.07:43
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noodles12ok i screwed up my system!!! i was running xubuntu edgy and i installed BUM to get rid of services i didn't need. I got rid of GDM because i thought that was for gnome adn not xfce, adn now i can't log in.. when i start my computer, the screen is all fuzzy and blinking. how do i fix this when i use a live cd? what config files do i change to get gdm to auto start again?08:10
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Jester45nobody in here would happen to have an idea for me to write about?08:14
Jester45im bored so i need to do somthing08:15
posingaspopularJester45: what do you mean write?08:15
posingaspopularas in poetry, a blog, pee in the snow?08:15
Jester45like a story08:15
posingaspopularoh dude i hate stories08:15
Jester45not poetry08:16
posingaspopularwriting them is too much of a pain for me08:16
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Jester45or a idea for blog08:16
Jester45but your gonna have trouble getting me interested in something08:17
posingaspopularive been trying to rack my brain for a blog idea too08:17
posingaspopularthough im pretty busy with fending attacks off for calling oprah a sellout right now...08:17
Jester45i keep typing a page or so of a story then stop08:17
Jester45and i cant thing of anything important to blog about08:17
posingaspopularyea i hit that rut too08:18
posingaspopularso im just going out and doing other stuff,08:18
Jester45im really wanting to get about 30 pages done this week08:18
Jester45but... i dont think its gonna happen08:18
posingaspopular30 pages is wayyyy too much for me08:18
posingaspopularid be lucky to get 5 done in any week08:19
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Jester45i could do the last bit of my script but im not up to it08:19
Jester45if you wanna read something -> jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Stuffs/CnCstory08:20
Jester45its long but08:20
Jester45i typed it at school becuase i was bored and when i saved it as a MS word document08:21
Jester45and then opened in mousepad it got extra enters08:21
posingaspopularmy writing stuff is on writerscafe08:22
Jester45the script i need to finish is to convert a video file into a dvd and to author it08:22
Jester45im stuck on authoring it i all ways just made a xml file for the menus and stuff but i dont know how to get it in a command08:23
posingaspopularthis ins't opening...08:23
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Jester45and it would be much better to keep it as just a script not a 2nd file08:23
Jester45try now08:23
posingaspopular.... no08:24
Jester45is it even connecting?08:26
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Jester45because its running from my house and im trying to get on it08:26
posingaspopularah okay08:27
Jester45its not connecting also08:27
maddasheveryone here is running xfce, rah? anyone and willing to share their `ps aux`?08:27
Jester45ps aux?08:27
posingaspopulardang i gotta up at around 7 in like 5 hours08:27
posingaspopularthis means i leave08:27
Jester45i would08:27
posingaspopularJester45: hit me up with it later and i'll look at it08:27
maddashJester45: fire up a cmd prompt and type in `ps aux`08:27
maddashJester45: then pastebin the output08:28
maddashactually, it's easier to `ps aux > somefile` and upload the file to pastebin08:29
Jester45El slow pastebin08:33
Jester45that work?08:34
maddashsome of the stuff to the right has been cut off, but that's fine. xfce4 uses surprisingly little memory.08:36
maddashthanks, i think i'll go try it out08:36
Jester45but i could of told you that08:36
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Rhaenwell, moin is also fine :)09:41
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davidwinterhi all11:54
davidwinterI'm trying to install on an old Dell laptop, but installation appears to freeze after the keyboard set-up.11:55
davidwinterWhat's the next step after setting up the keyboard?11:55
davidwinterJust trying to figure out where it's stumbling.11:55
davidwinterAfter setting the keyboard up, it "Detecting Hardware to find CD-ROM Drive" -- that finishes, then the blank blue screen11:56
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Rippawalletubuntulog is batty01:35
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Prisoner_anyone here?02:50
PuMpErNiCkLeOf course.02:53
Prisoner_seems like you're always here02:53
PuMpErNiCkLeNot just me.02:55
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rahmetlican anybody help me with tor?03:43
rahmetlii get timeout when i use "tsocks curl www.whatismyip.com"03:43
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dioxinHi! Suddenly I can't transfer my digitalcam pictures from the camera to the computer, The camera says "connectet to the computer" but the computer says "cameratype not recognized" or something like that! What has happend? How can I fix it?03:57
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dioxinhelp :S03:59
flumoxedHello, I've installed feisty xubuntu. Nice but... How the hell do I run synaptic (needs root) ??03:59
grazieflumoxed: root is not needed....your user password is required04:01
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flumoxedLol, Ok. 99.9 % of Linux distro's use root ;-|  I see a whole new learning curve coming....04:03
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jlamrwhere do I need to browse to so I can play streaming mp3s w/ gxine? I have the  codecs installed04:11
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graziejlamr: I don't know what you mean?04:16
graziejlamr: if you're looking for online streams >> http://www.shoutcast.com/04:17
jlamryeah - in firefox, if I go to shoutcast cast, click a link, it prompts for save/browse where do I browse to to play w/ gxine?04:17
graziejlamr: configure firefox to play the streams using gxine04:18
jlamryou mean mozplugger?04:19
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kylix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
thomas-dosanjhhello guys could i get a tiny bit of help please05:01
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vrkhansi have a problem05:04
vrkhanscan any one help me05:04
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kristjanshow can i make print screen with print screen button in xubuntu?05:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:11
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gpocentekkristjans: IIRC you can do this using gimp05:11
lesshasteis there an app to show the signal strength of wireless connections?05:11
gpocenteklesshaste: wifi-radar can do that05:12
graziekristjans: use the gimp or add the screenshot plugin to the panel05:13
lesshastealso..  I just got wpa working with madwifi but it was quite hard. There seems to be a bug that means that nm-applet doesn't recognise madwifi at all05:13
lesshastewifi-radar doesn't show the encryption type it seems05:15
lesshasteand edit doesn't do anything it seems05:16
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vrkhansi have a small problem,  due to some reason or bug in my bios i could not able to boot from my cdrom, is there any way i can boot from floppies and load the cdrom driver and install it like xp05:23
lesshastevrkhans, yes... there is a page on alternative ways to install ubuntu05:23
lesshastevrkhans, and that is one of them :)05:24
lesshastecrimsun, can you boot from a usbstick?05:24
vrkhansleshaste: what page you are talking about05:24
lesshastevrkhans, search for it in the ubuntu website05:25
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hyper_chkristjans: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31284405:27
vrkhanslesshastte: do you know link for that page, i tried but fail05:28
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lesshastevrkhans, sorry you will have to search for it,, I don't have time to do it for you now05:33
lesshastehow do you enable "suspend" for a laptop?05:35
lesshasteit doesn't seem to be doing it at the moment05:35
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:37
PuMpErNiCkLeFirst link has alternative installation methods.05:37
lesshasteanyone runningn xubuntu on a laptop?05:39
lesshastehow do I get suspend/hibernate to work?05:40
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kristjansit just kind-of-works for me05:52
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lesshastehow do I install realplayer 10 ?  Do I need plf or something else?06:05
grazielesshaste: >> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.2906:14
lesshastegrazie, thanks.. Used the canonical repo as I couldn't find it in the plf one06:15
lesshastegrazie, how to get the realplayer plugin for firefox?06:15
grazielesshaste: i think the details are on the same page ^^06:16
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lesshastegrazie, restarting firefox was the key :)06:18
lesshastenow I just need to work how to get hibernate/sleep working06:19
lesshasteany ideas?06:19
lesshasteI seem to have acpid installed06:19
lesshastebut I don't really know where to start06:19
grazielesshaste: don't have a laptop, but what size ram and what size swap?06:20
lesshaste512ram, 1.6 swap06:20
graziesounds good06:20
lesshasteyes... but I have no idea how to start setting up sleep/hibernation :)06:22
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grazieshould just work...but people do seem to have problems...usually 'cos they've a tiny swap06:24
Kresjah_laptopOk, to everyone who helped me out yesterday, thank you so very much. I know managed to get xubuntu installed on the machine I was working with yesterday.06:28
Kresjah_laptopThath's the good news. The bad news is that I'm having problems getting the wireless connection up and running.06:29
grazieKresjah_laptop: good news about installation...afraid I nothing about wifi...have you read the ubuntu guides?06:30
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lesshastehi Kresjah_laptop06:31
lesshasteKresjah_laptop, I was wondering if you had got sleeping or hibernation working on your laptop :)06:31
lesshasteKresjah_laptop, I just got wireless working myself... what is the problem?06:32
Kresjah_laptopI have one wireless card (running a Ralink RT2500 chipset), but the networking setting shows two entries for it; wmaster0 and wlan0. I've tried setting up both with connection settings to connect to my access point, and I get no errors (as if it gets a link), but it does not seem to be able to get to the internet.06:32
Kresjah_laptopgrazie: Haven't checked through all of it yet, but my ubuntu machine (the laptop i'm sitting on now has no problems connecting)06:32
Kresjah_laptoplesshaste: Hehe... I had been up for about 36 hours, so yes... I went to sleep :p06:33
grazie!wifi | Kresjah_laptop : in case this is something you haven't yet seen06:34
ubotuKresjah_laptop : in case this is something you haven't yet seen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:34
gopwhat a good screen cast for linux06:35
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Kresjah_laptopNice. Hadn't noticed that there was a specific guide for my wlan chipset06:37
graziegop: I don't know of screencast sw for linux. but you can set up a Windows machine and capture with vnc06:40
Kresjah_laptopInteresting... lspci reports it as a RaLink unknown device 0302 rather than a RT250006:40
graziegop: I think Canonical also provide a server....have you seen this link?06:40
graziegop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwNZDeB1k8s06:41
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Kresjah_laptopIs it possible to switch06:44
Kresjah_laptopdriver easily?06:44
Kresjah_laptopUsing edgy btw06:45
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PuMpErNiCkLegop: Xvidcap works fairly well.07:11
gopPuMpErNiCkLe,  it does07:12
gophmm how does one     start using that07:12
Kresjah_laptopNo one who can tell me how to switch drivers for my network card (the driver I want to switch to should from what I've understood be supplied with the xubuntu cd)?07:14
PuMpErNiCkLeI don't think it's been packaged.  An alternative, which is in the repos, is Istanbul.07:15
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PuMpErNiCkLeKresjah_laptop: modprobe -r will remove the old one, letting you load the new one.07:15
PuMpErNiCkLeIstanbul seems to work well enough.07:19
gopthe wiwi remote can be used for many things07:19
PuMpErNiCkLeAdded bonus is that it records in Theora.07:19
Kresjah_laptopPuMpErNiCkLe: Will try that...07:20
Kresjah_laptopHow do I find out what the name of the module to load for my card is though?07:22
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PuMpErNiCkLeOnline documentation, usually.07:26
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rahmetlican beryl be used with sfce?07:28
PuMpErNiCkLegop: Possibly useful reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screen_recording_software07:28
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Kresjah_laptopAnd last question... how do I find the name of the currently installed module?07:29
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cellofellowlists loaded modules07:30
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Kresjah_laptopThat's odd. It seems to have refused to load the module07:45
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Kresjah_laptopWhat is xubuntu's built in alternative to gedit?07:46
cellofellowwhich is more an alternative to notepad07:48
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Vincent_kcan someone give some advice of a nice gpg manager for xfce08:19
Vincent_klike kgpg08:19
Vincent_kbut lightweight08:19
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AzRichHello!! How's things here?08:27
cellofellowok, quite quiet08:27
AzRichI'm thinking about trying Xubuntu on an old thinkpad 380xd. Any ideas what I might watch out for?08:28
cellofellowhave the alternate CD handy.08:28
AzRicham currently in process of download and burning it now.08:29
cellofellowhave access to this channel, I guess. I don't know anything about thinkpads really.08:29
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AzRichthis one is a pentium mmx 233m, w/ 96M memory and a 4g disk. Currently running puppy 2.13, and having problems w/ the sound card. Hoping that xubuntu is easier to find and load drivers, etc.08:30
AzRichI ran Ubuntu on this hardware for a while, but it was verrrrryyyy ssslllllooooowwwwl.08:31
cellofellowDSL is loaded with lots of drivers. Tried that? Xubuntu should run on that box, but you may need to use lighter apps than even Xubuntu has.08:31
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cellofellowDSL-N (Not) even better for that box maybe.08:31
AzRichhaven't tried dsl08:31
AzRichI do like the debian apt-get stuff. Would dsl or -n have that?08:32
cellofellowDSL is based on Debian and Knoppix. (which is based on Debian.)08:32
AzRichcool. will keep it in mind if xubuntu doesn't get it.08:33
cellofellowok, awesome08:33
AzRichI would think that the extra stuff added by knoppix would add more overhead?08:33
cellofellowIt uses the driver and startup core. Makes it start a little slower.08:34
cellofellowAnd includes more drivers, so it has smaller apps than Puppy. DSL-N takes DSL, adds a 2.6 kernel (DSL has 2.4) and most of the apps in Puppy.08:34
AzRichI remember that Ubuntu took almost a day to load on here. I expect xubuntu and the alternate cd will be much better. Would you expect dsl to be a bear to install?08:35
cellofellownah. Especially in CLI mode, should take only minutes.08:36
cellofellowit has a CLI installer. you type 'install' and the bootpromt (Command-Line Interface, as opposed to GUI.)08:36
AzRich'k. Thanks.08:36
AzRichI'll try dsl if xubuntu doesn't work.08:37
cellofellowyou said that before. :)08:37
AzRichwhat part of the world are you located?08:37
cellofellowUT, USA08:38
AzRichnot so far. I'm in Phx.08:38
AzRichthis time of year, yes.08:38
cellofellowcold up here.08:38
AzRichI went to South Ogden a few weeks ago, and up to Park City. Had a great time.08:39
cellofellowSundance Festival or something?08:39
AzRichNo, a reunion of sorts. My wife's old girlfriend/bridesmaid we hadn't seen since the wedding 39 years ago lives up there.08:40
cellofellowoh, neat08:40
AzRichWell, the download s/b about done. I'll sign off. Thanks for the advice.08:41
Kresjah_laptopWhy does xubuntu show 2 wireless cards by the way? wlan0 and wmaster0 ... I only have one card08:48
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fxris vnc the way to go if i wanna control a remote pc (xubuntu) on my network? anyoen of know of any issus with amd64//08:53
Kresjah_laptopHi fxr :)08:55
fxrhey fella.. hows things? u get that lappy sorted yet?08:56
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JamesPLo all08:56
Kresjah_laptopThe lappy is the one that's always been working :p It's my internet gateway that didn't08:57
JamesPI've just installed xubuntu as per this tutorial: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-61008:57
JamesPit seems to have worked fine08:57
Kresjah_laptopAnd the good news, I'm fiddling with xubuntu settings on it as we speak08:57
JamesPhowever once booted.. it asks me for username/password08:57
Kresjah_laptopThe bad news... can't get my wireless connection up and running08:57
JamesPunder normal ubuntu install... i'd enter that info during setup08:57
JamesPbut it wasn't a normal ubuntu install.. so wasn't asked for the information... is there a default username/password ?08:58
fxrahh right, sorry my memory is a bit... fecked.. so u got ubuntu onto it then?08:58
fxryour gateway..08:59
Kresjah_laptopfxr: Yup, xubuntu is up... network is down08:59
Kresjah_laptopJamesP: You could try root or oem with no password08:59
fxrk.. should be handy enough to sort.. what wireless card u using...08:59
Kresjah_laptopAlthough I don't know if they'll work JamesP08:59
Kresjah_laptopfxr: A CNet something that I don't  remember, which has to my recollection a RaLink RT2500 chipset09:00
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre09:01
Kresjah_laptopIt detects the card in lspci as RaLink Unknown Device 0302, and in network configuration shows two cards; wlan0 and wmaster009:01
fxrhhmmm.. so ur sure its a based on the RT2500 chipset?09:01
Kresjah_laptopI was thinking of just trying to get it to run the xubuntu-supplied rt2500 module, so I ran a modprobe rt2500, restarted, and lsmod didn't show the module at all09:02
Kresjah_laptopI'll recheck09:02
PuMpErNiCkLeYou don't have to reboot after running modprobe.09:02
JamesPKresjah_laptop - oem/root dont seem to work09:02
JamesPwith no password09:02
PuMpErNiCkLeRebooting would return it to the default state, which wouldn't have it loaded.09:02
JamesPcan i escape to a terminal at all ?09:02
PuMpErNiCkLeJamesP: Yeah, but you'd still get a password prompt.  You may be able to boot into recovery mode, though, which will give you a root console.09:03
Kresjah_laptophttp://ralink.rapla.net/     I have the CNet CWP-85409:05
PuMpErNiCkLe(Either by choosing the 'recovery mode' option in Grub, if it's been setup, or by appending the word 'single' to the kernel line if it hasn't.)09:05
PuMpErNiCkLeKresjah_laptop: ^^^^ Up about 10 lines - don't reboot after running modprobe.09:06
Kresjah_laptopYeah, saw that, but it doesn't seem to work anyways (either that, or it's just the fact that I'm still a newbie so I have no clue on what to do further :p)09:06
fxrk ll have a look at that now.. the RT2500 should work out of the box, have you been into the networking applet & entered you ESSID?09:07
Kresjah_laptopfxr: I know, that's what I don't understand (why it doesn't work ootb). Yup, but as said, it shows two wireless interfaces, wlan0 and wmaster0... tried all combinations possible09:08
Kresjah_laptopAnd made sure both ESSID and key were correct09:08
Kresjah_laptopI'm starting to get used to my machines having compatibility issues of all sorts. Haven't been able to get Mesa running on my laptop (nor did I get GL on it when I used windows)09:10
fxryeah, whats in your /etc/network/interfaces file is there any mention of ra0 ??09:11
Kresjah_laptopNo mention of ra0 at all09:11
fxrbear with me, here.. m just trackin back my steps.. ve been messing with 2 wireless cards today..09:16
fxris there a rt2500.ko on your system anywhere?09:17
Kresjah_laptopThat's ok. I'm just happy to recieve help :)09:17
Kresjah_laptopWell, there obviously is, as modprobe loads the module09:17
fxrright so.. is ra0 set up as an alias to rt250009:18
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Kresjah_laptopHave no idea09:19
Kresjah_laptopHow to I check?09:19
fxropen file /etc/modprobe.d/alias and do a search for rt250009:20
Kresjah_laptopNope... guess that needs to be set up then09:21
fxri think there is a way to short cut this tho... m guessing if you stick your alias in there & then add iface ra0 etc to interfaces, that should get it working.. i could be wrong tho..09:22
Kresjah_laptopI could try, but then you also have to tell me how to modprobe the rt2500 module so that it sticks through rebooots09:23
Kresjah_laptopI did what you suggested, but then I wasn't aware of modules not sticking through reboots, so it didn't load the ra009:24
fxrsudo modprobe rt2500 *should* install and make it 'stick'09:25
Kresjah_laptopThat's what I did last time. The module is in the list now, but if I reboot, it's gone agian09:26
PuMpErNiCkLeAdd it to /etc/modules09:28
Kresjah_laptopThere, stuck. I'll try readding ra0 to the interfaces then09:30
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cubdukatGood afternoon.09:33
cubdukatI'm having a weird kinda problem in Xubuntu that I can't figure out here.09:34
cubdukatI was hoping you guys could help before I have to reinstall my entire system.09:34
cellofellowI'm not a wizard. :( :) but I can help with details, I think I can anyways.09:35
cubdukatThanks. Here goes. When I boot into Xubuntu, I get an error message that says "Either --appname or --package arguments are required."09:36
Kresjah_laptopOk... restarted. There is no ra0 and no wireless internet, however, now there is a sit0 (no wireless extenstions) in iwcofig09:36
cubdukatI also have nothing on my desktop except for icons.09:36
fxris that ra0 alias set up?09:36
Kresjah_laptopGuess not09:36
cubdukatI had this same problem in Kubuntu, but I solved it by deleting the .kde folder and reinstalling kubuntu-desktop.09:37
fxrtry and manually enter the ra0 setup into your interfaces09:37
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hyper_chcubdukat: just go to the CLI, remove to xubuntu-desktop and install it again09:37
cellofellowcubdukat: well, they seem like seperate problems.09:37
Kresjah_laptopcubdukaT: I think I might now what triggered your issue, but not how to fix it09:37
cellofellowcubdukat: log in to xfce and type alt+f2 and run sfce4-panel09:38
cubdukatWhat might've triggered it? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling xubuntu-desktop, but that didn't work. Is there a folder like .xfce that I have to delete before I reinstall it?09:38
Kresjah_laptopcubdukat: Well, when I tried using the live CD, I headed into the desktop configuration (can't remember the name of it)09:39
Kresjah_laptopThen unchecked "let xfce handle my desktop" or somethinhg like that09:40
cubdukatif I have to reinstall, I'm definitely gonna reinstall with 6.06.09:40
Kresjah_laptopAnd boom, everything was gone09:40
Kresjah_laptopI tried going back in and check it, but it didn't help09:40
Kresjah_laptopHold on, and I'll see if I can find a reason to fix it09:40
cubdukatOne of the things I thought might be an issue was that I installed kubuntu-desktop after I installed xubuntu-desktop.09:40
hyper_chkubutnu and xubuntu are different09:41
hyper_chthey shouldn't interfere09:41
Kresjah_laptopfxr: I tried setting it up into interfaces, didn't help. That was when sit0 showed up after reboot09:41
cubdukatI thought I had seen somewhere that if you did this you had to do it in a certain order to keep from borking one of them.09:41
hyper_chcubdukat: did you do what cello said?09:41
cubdukatTrying now.09:42
cubdukatOkay, that got it back.09:42
Kresjah_laptopGood to hear cubdukat :)09:42
cubdukatIt's like something seems to turn it off at bootup. What would cause that?09:43
cubdukatAnd is there something in the Settings menu I could check off to make it permanent again?09:44
Kresjah_laptopHave you checked if the checkbox I mentioned is checked?09:45
cubdukatI'm in "Desktop Preferences" right now, but I don't see anything that pertains to the taskbars.09:46
cubdukatLooking into a couple other things now.09:46
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fxrmaybe you could try recompiling the kernel module Kresjah_laptop09:53
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fxrhow do i update firmware in linux/ubuntu?10:13
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JKnife!seen maxamillion10:22
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LordGamerAnyone Know any good open source Docs? I am DLing Revolution OS but I have never seen it10:30
BFTDhey slow-motion10:33
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cobehg1I'm new to Linux, Xubuntu and in addition to irc too. I've got a question concerning my graphic drivers and a zip drive, Could someone of you tell me wheter I'm in the right channel for that kind of support, or not, please? Thanks a lot11:02
cobehg1Ich bin sowohl mit Linux, bzw. Xubuntu, als auch mit irc gnzlich unerfahren, habe aber einige Frage bezglich eines Treibers fr meine Grafikkarte und zu einem Zip Drive, kann mir einer von euch verraten, ob ich hier eventuell eine Antwort bekommen knnte? Danke sehr11:05
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graziecobehg1: what's the graphic driver problem? If you prefer  german support you could try the german channel11:07
grazie!de | cobehg111:07
ubotucobehg1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:07
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cobehg1I guess it's rather the time to ask you, because its 11pm local time in germany:)11:09
graziecobehg1: most people on the channel are in the usa I think11:09
cobehg1I got an new installed xubuntu, but my monitor promted after the first boot11:10
cobehg1out of range, which ment it couldn't deal with the graphic signal i guess11:10
cobehg1by now my computer is running after I reconfigured the xserver11:10
cobehg1and changed the driver11:11
cobehg1to vesa11:11
graziecobehg1: you want to use  a different driver?11:11
cobehg1of course its no very comfortable, because there's a delay in my screen actions now11:12
cobehg1I got a matrox card11:12
cobehg1and  I tried to change the driver as it's described in the wiki I found11:12
cobehg1but unfortunatly it didn't work out11:12
cobehg1I'd prefer to have a better performance11:13
graziecobehg1: have you tried this guide >> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:13
cobehg1first i changed my driver to get a running system with the vesa driver via sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:15
graziecobehg1: no good?11:16
cobehg1after that I found a tutorial to change to maxtor driver because I have a maxtor card installed11:16
cobehg1no its not really good, because the autodetect version doesn't lead to a output signal my monitor could deal with11:16
cobehg1and the vesa driver I'm using by now is only for temporal use I guess...11:17
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cobehg1the scrolling of pages is kind of stocking11:18
cobehg1so I hoped a working maxtor driver would solve my problem11:18
graziecobehg1: If dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not detect your hardware correctly I think you will have to set /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself11:19
graziecobehg1: Another possibilty is to use something like knoppix to detect the correct hardware and copy the config11:19
cobehg1may be, but by now I don't know how to do it11:19
cellofellowdoes knoppix use Xorg or the older Xfree86?11:20
cobehg1So you think it's no driver problem?11:20
graziecellofellow: Xfree86 i think, but the settings are very similar11:21
cellofellowif it works... go for it.11:21
graziecobehg1: I've never known anyone else with a matrox card problem before, but I gues there aren't that many people with them11:22
cobehg1http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Matrox-Grafikkarten that's what i found.. but it's in german ;-)11:23
graziecobehg1: I speak no german, sorry11:23
cobehg1that's a how to install matrox driver from http://www.tuxx-home.at/projects/mtx/latest/11:25
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graziecobehg1: are you using the example /etc/X11/xorg.conf on that link?11:25
cobehg1no I didn't get that far11:26
cobehg1after I tried to unpack (sudoshmatroxdriver_mtx-x86_32-
cobehg1there was a compiling problem prompted11:26
cobehg1I still got a log file if that would help you11:28
graziecobehg1: perhaps...can you pastebin the log11:29
cobehg1and the last I didn't try because I don't even know which version of kernel I have, 'cause as I told before I'm completely new to linux11:29
grazie!pastebin | cobehg111:29
ubotucobehg1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:29
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graziecobehg1: in a terminal type 'uname -r' to get the kernel version11:30
graziecobehg1: are you using xubuntu 6.10 (edgy eft)?11:31
cobehg1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7401/ I hope this is the right url11:33
cobehg1I'm using 6.1011:33
cobehg1installed today ;-)11:33
graziecobehg1: what machine hardware do you have?11:35
graziecobehg1: you are trying to something that is quite difficult for a linux beginner11:36
grazies/to/to do/ ^^11:37
cobehg1it's a pentium II with 400 Mhz11:38
graziecobehg1: well you have not downloaded the correct driver for that machine11:39
cobehg1I'm not experienced in getting linux drivers at all, where coul I look for them?11:40
cobehg1lspci | grep VGA11:42
cobehg101:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 01)11:42
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graziecobehg1: firstly pick one of the drivers on that page http://www.tuxx-home.at/projects/mtx/latest that start matroxdriver-x86_3211:43
cobehg1the latest or no matter which?11:45
graziecobehg1: the latest is probably best yes11:45
graziecobehg1: there's only 311:45
cobehg121-Sep-2006 I downloaded now11:46
cobehg1but the german protocoll I should try again?11:47
graziecobehg1: I don't understand 'german protocoll'11:47
cobehg1which I sent you the link of, it's been written in german so I called it "german protocoll" ;-)11:48
graziecobehg1: yes try the same instructions with this driver... I have no better soltions :)11:49
cobehg1okay, thanks anyhow!11:49
grazieno problem11:50
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cobehg1first time without compiling error! seems to work ;-) I'll see in the next minutes11:51
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j1mcping :)11:55
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ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels12:01
ubotuLDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer12:05
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akaohey guys, anyone know how to set keyboard bindings?  I've got a tablet pc and there are two buttons on the screen that i'd like to act like the up and down arrows.12:14
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grazieakao: have looked at >> http://wiki.xfce.org/faq12:21

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