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| jeff22 | how do I use ubuntu to connect to the internet | 05:28 |
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| nalioth | if you have an active network connection, it should automatically use the internet | 05:28 |
| jeff22 | no, i don't have that, I only have dial-up | 05:29 |
| tonyyarusso | !dialup | jeff22 | 05:29 |
| ubotu | jeff22: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto | 05:29 |
| jeff22 | thanks, I'll read that | 05:30 |
| jeff22 | do I need gnome-ppp? it isn't on the liveCD | 05:32 |
| tonyyarusso | You don't need it no, it's just another interface you can choose. | 05:34 |
| jeff22 | okay | 05:34 |
| jeff22 | I'm back to square one, I have no idea how to use dial up with ubuntu to access the internet | 05:46 |
| tonyyarusso | jeff22: Do you know what chipset your modem is? | 05:48 |
| jeff22 | no | 05:48 |
| jeff22 | it's an internal modem | 05:49 |
| tonyyarusso | I recommend using the scanModem script from linmodems.org | 05:49 |
| jeff22 | thanks again, I'll try that | 05:51 |
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| Gfather | I'm here now soundray | 04:15 |
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| soundray | Okay | 04:15 |
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| soundray | Have you tried pinging your DNS servers? | 04:15 |
| Gfather | Want me to state problem again? | 04:15 |
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| Gfather | Not yet | 04:15 |
| Gfather | What do I need to do? | 04:15 |
| soundray | Have you got a terminal open? | 04:16 |
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| Gfather | Yes | 04:16 |
| Wooksta | http://pastebin.ca/371657 <--- i'm getting the following errors when trying to compile rainbowcrack, can anyone help? | 04:16 |
| soundray | I'll give you some commands to type in. Copy everything between the quotes: | 04:17 |
| Gfather | ok | 04:17 |
| soundray | 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' | 04:17 |
| soundray | That'll list your DNS settings | 04:17 |
| Gfather | ok | 04:17 |
| Gfather | I got 2 nameservers | 04:17 |
| soundray | Pick the first one and do 'ping 10.11.12.13', substituting the IP address | 04:18 |
| Gfather | Ok | 04:18 |
| soundray | Gfather: are you getting ping responses? | 04:18 |
| Gfather | Host Unreachable | 04:18 |
| soundray | Aah, that's the trouble | 04:18 |
| soundray | Try the second one | 04:18 |
| Gfather | Ok | 04:18 |
| Gfather | How can I stop this one? | 04:19 |
| soundray | Ctrl-C | 04:19 |
| Gfather | It keeps on going | 04:19 |
| soundray | sry forgot | 04:19 |
| Gfather | Ok, thanks | 04:19 |
| Gfather | Second one gives Host Unreachable aswell | 04:19 |
| soundray | Gfather: I need to know a bit about your internet setup now. | 04:20 |
| Gfather | Sure | 04:20 |
| soundray | Gfather: are you using a modem? | 04:20 |
| Gfather | I use a UTP-cable to connect with the electrical net in my house (230v) | 04:20 |
| soundray | Oh, powerline internet | 04:20 |
| Gfather | Yer | 04:21 |
| Gfather | Via a router it goes to the normal cable | 04:21 |
| soundray | Gfather: is that the connection that we are also using for this chat? | 04:22 |
| Gfather | nope | 04:22 |
| Gfather | I got 2 computers here | 04:22 |
| Gfather | This one is the AMD one running on winxp (bleh 0.o ) | 04:22 |
| soundray | How is that one connected? Not via the router? | 04:22 |
| Gfather | The other one is the p2 (300 mhz) with ubuntu 6.06 | 04:22 |
| Gfather | This one has wireless | 04:23 |
| soundray | Wireless to the same router or a different one? | 04:23 |
| Gfather | Strange thing about this is, I do have internet on that p2, but it's very slow | 04:23 |
| Gfather | Same | 04:23 |
| soundray | Could you try pinging the same two addresses from your Win XP box? | 04:24 |
| Gfather | sure | 04:24 |
| Gfather | 32 ms | 04:24 |
| Gfather | It's pinging :) | 04:24 |
| soundray | Excellent. We've narrowed down the problem. | 04:25 |
| Gfather | Other ip too | 04:25 |
| soundray | We know it's somewhere between the router (which we know works) and the Ubuntu machine (which appears to be set up correctly) | 04:25 |
| soundray | Do you know the router's LAN IP? | 04:26 |
| Gfather | Not really | 04:26 |
| soundray | When you do a 'tracepath 10.11.12.13', again substituting the nameserver IP, the second line should respond to the router | 04:27 |
| Gfather | So I need to use the second IP I used before with "tracepath" ? | 04:28 |
| soundray | correspond, I mean | 04:28 |
| soundray | Gfather: that or the other, doesn't matter | 04:28 |
| Gfather | Ok | 04:28 |
| Gfather | Ok, I got something | 04:29 |
| Gfather | 1 line of information, next line says: no reply, and then a line with the ip but a way higher ms | 04:30 |
| Gfather | First line has 0.843 ms, third line has 2004.217 ms | 04:30 |
| soundray | Gfather: I think those lags result from your powerline connection | 04:31 |
| Gfather | When I use that connection on this computer, it does not lag at all | 04:31 |
| soundray | Is there some sort of networking device you plug into the power sockets, or are you using the raw wire? | 04:32 |
| Gfather | There's some sort of device | 04:33 |
| Gfather | Which has 4 LEDs | 04:33 |
| Gfather | Link Act Link/Act Collision | 04:33 |
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| Gfather | At this moment only Link/Act lights up | 04:34 |
| soundray | Is it possible that the wireless signal interferes with the powerline signal? | 04:34 |
| Gfather | I used both connections at the same time on this computer, that worked a treat | 04:35 |
| soundray | I see | 04:36 |
| Gfather | Does pmtu 1500 say anything? | 04:37 |
| soundray | Some packet size, I'm not sure what it means | 04:37 |
| Gfather | Ok | 04:37 |
| soundray | Okay, I think I have a diagnosis | 04:37 |
| Gfather | Ok | 04:38 |
| soundray | * your ubuntu setup is fine (otherwise you wouldn't get gmail at all) | 04:38 |
| soundray | * your router and internet is fine (otherwise we wouldn't be able to chat) | 04:38 |
| soundray | * your powerline connection is fine (since it works with your XP machine) | 04:38 |
| soundray | - what's left is the network hardware in your ubuntu machine. | 04:39 |
| Gfather | And maybe drivers / software on the ubuntu machine? | 04:39 |
| soundray | I don't think so | 04:40 |
| Gfather | Ok | 04:40 |
| soundray | Mainly because your internet does work (albeit extremely slow) | 04:40 |
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| Gfather | What should I do now? | 04:40 |
| soundray | And ethernet driver problems are exceedingly rare | 04:40 |
| Wooksta | any reason why "sudo init 3" wouldnt drop me down to run level 3? | 04:41 |
| soundray | Gfather: It depends on what you have lying around in the way of hardware | 04:41 |
| soundray | Any spare network cards? | 04:41 |
| soundray | What kind of wireless card does your XP machine use? | 04:42 |
| Gfather | Not at this moment, next to that the machine only has USB slots left | 04:42 |
| Gfather | Wireless: 802.111G standard card (don't know if it's the correct numbers) | 04:42 |
| soundray | How is it connected? PCI? USB? | 04:43 |
| Gfather | Eeeerm, PCI I think | 04:43 |
| Gfather | It's got it's own (big) slot which doesn't look like USB | 04:43 |
| Gfather | So it's got to be PCI | 04:44 |
| soundray | Pity, cause if you had a USB wireless card, we could quickly try it with your ubuntu machine | 04:44 |
| Gfather | True | 04:45 |
| Gfather | If I use a crosscable, could I make a connection with my winxp machine | 04:46 |
| soundray | Yes, that would be a good idea | 04:46 |
| Gfather | And via that machine, via the router connect to internet? | 04:46 |
| Gfather | Now to find a crosscable ... | 04:46 |
| Gfather | I got one laying here somewhere I'm sure | 04:46 |
| soundray | You'd just have to setup XP internet connection sharing. I don't know anything about that. | 04:47 |
| Gfather | Ok, I'll give that a go tomorrow, because I seem to have given away all my crosscables | 04:47 |
| soundray | Here's another ide | 04:49 |
| soundray | a | 04:49 |
| soundray | If you can move your ubuntu machine and connect it directly to the router, bypassing the powerline, and it works, that would prove that the difficulty is with the powerline | 04:50 |
| Gfather | That would be a problem, router downstairs, machine upstairs | 04:50 |
| soundray | Yes, I thought so... | 04:51 |
| soundray | I'm just concerned that I may not have convinced you that your Ubuntu installation is just fine... | 04:51 |
| Gfather | You have | 04:51 |
| soundray | Oh, good | 04:51 |
| Gfather | I'm going to try to get an extra wireless card tomorrow + a crosscable | 04:51 |
| Gfather | So I can try them both and see what it does | 04:52 |
| soundray | Be careful, many wireless devices are difficult to use with Linux | 04:52 |
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| soundray | Buy from a dealer who will exchange it for you | 04:52 |
| Gfather | Hmmm, ok | 04:52 |
| Gfather | Good advice :) | 04:53 |
| soundray | And best get a card with a Ralink chipset | 04:53 |
| soundray | Unfortunately you can't tell from the box in most cases | 04:53 |
| Gfather | I could ask the dealer | 04:53 |
| soundray | Most of them won't know either | 04:53 |
| Gfather | Pity | 04:54 |
| soundray | "It comes with Windows drivers -- what do you want?" | 04:54 |
| soundray | :( | 04:54 |
| Gfather | Hahahaha :) | 04:54 |
| soundray | There is a dealer who specializes in Linux-supported hardware here. Maybe you have someone like that in Holland, too | 04:55 |
| Gfather | I hope so | 04:56 |
| Gfather | Thanks for you help | 04:57 |
| soundray | Well, good luck with your setup | 04:57 |
| Gfather | Thanks | 04:57 |
| soundray | Tot ziens! | 04:57 |
| Gfather | :) | 04:57 |
| Gfather | See ya | 04:57 |
| soundray | :) | 04:57 |
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| jrib | amar: hello | 05:19 |
| amar | hi | 05:19 |
| jrib | amar: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file? | 05:19 |
| amar | yup...... | 05:19 |
| amar | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7505/ | 05:20 |
| amar | i have pasted here | 05:20 |
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| amar | i just want to read n write in FAT file.... | 05:22 |
| jrib | amar: ok which one do you want to change | 05:22 |
| amar | hda 5 | 05:22 |
| jrib | amar: you want to give read and write to *everyone*? | 05:23 |
| amar | ya... | 05:23 |
| jrib | amar: ok, in the line for hda5, change "defaults" to "umask=000" | 05:24 |
| amar | ok.... | 05:24 |
| amar | dat file is read only........ | 05:25 |
| amar | not able to write anything in dat file | 05:25 |
| amar | shld i use sudo | 05:25 |
| amar | k........ done...... | 05:29 |
| amar | shall i save dis file?? | 05:29 |
| amar | thank u very much dude........ now i'm write in dat volume...... | 05:31 |
| amar | *able | 05:32 |
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