[05:28] <jeff22> how do I use ubuntu to connect to the internet
[05:28] <nalioth> if you have an active network connection, it should automatically use the internet
[05:29] <jeff22> no, i don't have that, I only have dial-up
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> !dialup | jeff22
[05:29] <ubotu> jeff22: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[05:30] <jeff22> thanks, I'll read that
[05:32] <jeff22> do I need gnome-ppp? it isn't on the liveCD
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> You don't need it no, it's just another interface you can choose.
[05:34] <jeff22> okay
[05:46] <jeff22> I'm back to square one, I have no idea how to use dial up with ubuntu to access the internet
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> jeff22: Do you know what chipset your modem is?
[05:48] <jeff22> no
[05:49] <jeff22> it's an internal modem
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> I recommend using the scanModem script from linmodems.org
[05:51] <jeff22> thanks again, I'll try that
[04:15] <Gfather> I'm here now soundray
[04:15] <soundray> Okay
[04:15] <soundray> Have you tried pinging your DNS servers?
[04:15] <Gfather> Want me to state problem again?
[04:15] <Gfather> Not yet
[04:15] <Gfather> What do I need to do?
[04:16] <soundray> Have you got a terminal open?
[04:16] <Gfather> Yes
[04:16] <Wooksta> http://pastebin.ca/371657 <--- i'm getting the following errors when trying to compile rainbowcrack, can anyone help?
[04:17] <soundray> I'll give you some commands to type in. Copy everything between the quotes:
[04:17] <Gfather> ok
[04:17] <soundray> 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[04:17] <soundray> That'll list your DNS settings
[04:17] <Gfather> ok
[04:17] <Gfather> I got 2 nameservers
[04:18] <soundray> Pick the first one and do 'ping 10.11.12.13', substituting the IP address
[04:18] <Gfather> Ok
[04:18] <soundray> Gfather: are you getting ping responses?
[04:18] <Gfather> Host Unreachable
[04:18] <soundray> Aah, that's the trouble
[04:18] <soundray> Try the second one
[04:18] <Gfather> Ok
[04:19] <Gfather> How can I stop this one?
[04:19] <soundray> Ctrl-C
[04:19] <Gfather> It keeps on going
[04:19] <soundray> sry forgot
[04:19] <Gfather> Ok, thanks
[04:19] <Gfather> Second one gives Host Unreachable aswell
[04:20] <soundray> Gfather: I need to know a bit about your internet setup now.
[04:20] <Gfather> Sure
[04:20] <soundray> Gfather: are you using a modem?
[04:20] <Gfather> I use a UTP-cable to connect with the electrical net in my house (230v)
[04:20] <soundray> Oh, powerline internet
[04:21] <Gfather> Yer
[04:21] <Gfather> Via a router it goes to the normal cable
[04:22] <soundray> Gfather: is that the connection that we are also using for this chat?
[04:22] <Gfather> nope
[04:22] <Gfather> I got 2 computers here
[04:22] <Gfather> This one is the AMD one running on winxp (bleh 0.o )
[04:22] <soundray> How is that one connected? Not via the router?
[04:22] <Gfather> The other one is the p2 (300 mhz) with ubuntu 6.06
[04:23] <Gfather> This one has wireless
[04:23] <soundray> Wireless to the same router or a different one?
[04:23] <Gfather> Strange thing about this is, I do have internet on that p2, but it's very slow
[04:23] <Gfather> Same
[04:24] <soundray> Could you try pinging the same two addresses from your Win XP box?
[04:24] <Gfather> sure
[04:24] <Gfather> 32 ms
[04:24] <Gfather> It's pinging :)
[04:25] <soundray> Excellent. We've narrowed down the problem.
[04:25] <Gfather> Other ip too
[04:25] <soundray> We know it's somewhere between the router (which we know works) and the Ubuntu machine (which appears to be set up correctly)
[04:26] <soundray> Do you know the router's LAN IP?
[04:26] <Gfather> Not really
[04:27] <soundray> When you do a 'tracepath 10.11.12.13', again substituting the nameserver IP, the second line should respond to the router
[04:28] <Gfather> So I need to use the second IP I used before with "tracepath" ?
[04:28] <soundray> correspond, I mean
[04:28] <soundray> Gfather: that or the other, doesn't matter
[04:28] <Gfather> Ok
[04:29] <Gfather> Ok, I got something
[04:30] <Gfather> 1 line of information, next line says: no reply, and then a line with the ip but a way higher ms
[04:30] <Gfather> First line has 0.843 ms, third line has 2004.217 ms
[04:31] <soundray> Gfather: I think those lags result from your powerline connection
[04:31] <Gfather> When I use that connection on this computer, it does not lag at all
[04:32] <soundray> Is there some sort of networking device you plug into the power sockets, or are you using the raw wire?
[04:33] <Gfather> There's some sort of device
[04:33] <Gfather> Which has 4 LEDs
[04:33] <Gfather> Link Act Link/Act Collision
[04:34] <Gfather> At this moment only Link/Act lights up
[04:34] <soundray> Is it possible that the wireless signal interferes with the powerline signal?
[04:35] <Gfather> I used both connections at the same time on this computer, that worked a treat
[04:36] <soundray> I see
[04:37] <Gfather> Does pmtu 1500 say anything?
[04:37] <soundray> Some packet size, I'm not sure what it means
[04:37] <Gfather> Ok
[04:37] <soundray> Okay, I think I have a diagnosis
[04:38] <Gfather> Ok
[04:38] <soundray> * your ubuntu setup is fine (otherwise you wouldn't get gmail at all)
[04:38] <soundray> * your router and internet is fine (otherwise we wouldn't be able to chat)
[04:38] <soundray> * your powerline connection is fine (since it works with your XP machine)
[04:39] <soundray> - what's left is the network hardware in your ubuntu machine.
[04:39] <Gfather> And maybe drivers / software on the ubuntu machine?
[04:40] <soundray> I don't think so
[04:40] <Gfather> Ok
[04:40] <soundray> Mainly because your internet does work (albeit extremely slow)
[04:40] <Gfather> What should I do now?
[04:40] <soundray> And ethernet driver problems are exceedingly rare
[04:41] <Wooksta> any reason why "sudo init 3" wouldnt drop me down to run level 3?
[04:41] <soundray> Gfather: It depends on what you have lying around in the way of hardware
[04:41] <soundray> Any spare network cards?
[04:42] <soundray> What kind of wireless card does your XP machine use?
[04:42] <Gfather> Not at this moment, next to that the machine only has USB slots left
[04:42] <Gfather> Wireless: 802.111G standard card (don't know if it's the correct numbers)
[04:43] <soundray> How is it connected? PCI? USB?
[04:43] <Gfather> Eeeerm, PCI I think
[04:43] <Gfather> It's got it's own (big) slot which doesn't look like USB
[04:44] <Gfather> So it's got to be PCI
[04:44] <soundray> Pity, cause if you had a USB wireless card, we could quickly try it with your ubuntu machine
[04:45] <Gfather> True
[04:46] <Gfather> If I use a crosscable, could I make a connection with my winxp machine
[04:46] <soundray> Yes, that would be a good idea
[04:46] <Gfather> And via that machine, via the router connect to internet?
[04:46] <Gfather> Now to find a crosscable ...
[04:46] <Gfather> I got one laying here somewhere I'm sure
[04:47] <soundray> You'd just have to setup XP internet connection sharing. I don't know anything about that.
[04:47] <Gfather> Ok, I'll give that a go tomorrow, because I seem to have given away all my crosscables
[04:49] <soundray> Here's another ide
[04:49] <soundray> a
[04:50] <soundray> If you can move your ubuntu machine and connect it directly to the router, bypassing the powerline, and it works, that would prove that the difficulty is with the powerline
[04:50] <Gfather> That would be a problem, router downstairs, machine upstairs
[04:51] <soundray> Yes, I thought so...
[04:51] <soundray> I'm just concerned that I may not have convinced you that your Ubuntu installation is just fine...
[04:51] <Gfather> You have
[04:51] <soundray> Oh, good
[04:51] <Gfather> I'm going to try to get an extra wireless card tomorrow + a crosscable
[04:52] <Gfather> So I can try them both and see what it does
[04:52] <soundray> Be careful, many wireless devices are difficult to use with Linux
[04:52] <soundray> Buy from a dealer who will exchange it for you
[04:52] <Gfather> Hmmm, ok
[04:53] <Gfather> Good advice :)
[04:53] <soundray> And best get a card with a Ralink chipset
[04:53] <soundray> Unfortunately you can't tell from the box in most cases
[04:53] <Gfather> I could ask the dealer
[04:53] <soundray> Most of them won't know either
[04:54] <Gfather> Pity
[04:54] <soundray> "It comes with Windows drivers -- what do you want?"
[04:54] <soundray> :(
[04:54] <Gfather> Hahahaha :)
[04:55] <soundray> There is a dealer who specializes in Linux-supported hardware here. Maybe you have someone like that in Holland, too
[04:56] <Gfather> I hope so
[04:57] <Gfather> Thanks for you help
[04:57] <soundray> Well, good luck with your setup
[04:57] <Gfather> Thanks
[04:57] <soundray> Tot ziens!
[04:57] <Gfather> :)
[04:57] <Gfather> See ya
[04:57] <soundray> :)
[05:19] <jrib> amar: hello
[05:19] <amar> hi
[05:19] <jrib> amar: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?
[05:19] <amar> yup......
[05:20] <amar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7505/
[05:20] <amar> i have pasted here
[05:22] <amar> i just want to read n write in FAT file....
[05:22] <jrib> amar: ok which one do you want to change
[05:22] <amar> hda 5
[05:23] <jrib> amar: you want to give read and write to *everyone*?
[05:23] <amar> ya...
[05:24] <jrib> amar: ok, in the line for hda5, change "defaults" to "umask=000"
[05:24] <amar> ok....
[05:25] <amar> dat file is read only........
[05:25] <amar> not able to write anything in dat file
[05:25] <amar> shld i use sudo
[05:29] <amar> k........ done......
[05:29] <amar> shall i save dis file??
[05:31] <amar> thank u very much dude........ now i'm write in dat volume......
[05:32] <amar> *able