=== PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Maikel [n=ma1kel@cp818518-b.roose1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === stuart_ [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy_ [n=darryl@66.212.42.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.42.1] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === GaiaX11 [n=vagner@201.39.226.174] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === GaiaX11 [n=vagner@201.39.226.174] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-152-141.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === TomSwift [i=TomSwift@user-142h7sq.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === TomSwift [i=TomSwift@user-142h7sq.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === teckfatt [n=teckfatt@60-241-201-96.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === teckfatt [n=teckfatt@60-241-201-96.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jeff22 [i=jet@203.122.77.242] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:28] how do I use ubuntu to connect to the internet [05:28] if you have an active network connection, it should automatically use the internet [05:29] no, i don't have that, I only have dial-up [05:29] !dialup | jeff22 [05:29] jeff22: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto [05:30] thanks, I'll read that [05:32] do I need gnome-ppp? it isn't on the liveCD [05:34] You don't need it no, it's just another interface you can choose. [05:34] okay [05:46] I'm back to square one, I have no idea how to use dial up with ubuntu to access the internet [05:48] jeff22: Do you know what chipset your modem is? [05:48] no [05:49] it's an internal modem [05:49] I recommend using the scanModem script from linmodems.org [05:51] thanks again, I'll try that === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11214rn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jeff22 [i=jet@203.122.77.242] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === Crusher [n=You@ppp97-207.lns4.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-225.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.96.215] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.42.45] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy_ [n=darryl@66.212.42.45] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DerXero [n=patrick@dslb-082-083-131-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DerXero_ [n=patrick@dslb-082-083-132-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix [n=lorents@84.16.204.46.netcrew.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix [n=lorents@84.16.204.46.netcrew.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-152-141.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.59.10] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix [n=lorents@84.16.204.46.netcrew.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.38.45] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === neuratix [n=lorents@84.16.204.46.netcrew.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Maikel [n=ma1kel@cp818518-b.roose1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Maikel is now known as ma1kel === hexidigital [n=root@unaffiliated/hexidigital] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hexidigital [n=root@unaffiliated/hexidigital] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hexidigital [n=root@unaffiliated/hexidigital] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Largka [n=cyril@164.15.34.95] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === soundray [n=rolf@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Wooksta [n=Wooksta@82-41-99-118.cable.ubr03.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Gfather [n=syn4@g130247.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:15] I'm here now soundray === mojo [n=mojo@c-68-52-116-85.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:15] Okay === Antonio_Carlos_M [n=marko@195.252.116.29] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:15] Have you tried pinging your DNS servers? [04:15] Want me to state problem again? === IndyGunFreak [n=ken@user-0cdv00n.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:15] Not yet [04:15] What do I need to do? [04:16] Have you got a terminal open? === neuratix [n=lorents@84.16.204.46.netcrew.no] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:16] Yes [04:16] http://pastebin.ca/371657 <--- i'm getting the following errors when trying to compile rainbowcrack, can anyone help? [04:17] I'll give you some commands to type in. Copy everything between the quotes: [04:17] ok [04:17] 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' [04:17] That'll list your DNS settings [04:17] ok [04:17] I got 2 nameservers [04:18] Pick the first one and do 'ping 10.11.12.13', substituting the IP address [04:18] Ok [04:18] Gfather: are you getting ping responses? [04:18] Host Unreachable [04:18] Aah, that's the trouble [04:18] Try the second one [04:18] Ok [04:19] How can I stop this one? [04:19] Ctrl-C [04:19] It keeps on going [04:19] sry forgot [04:19] Ok, thanks [04:19] Second one gives Host Unreachable aswell [04:20] Gfather: I need to know a bit about your internet setup now. [04:20] Sure [04:20] Gfather: are you using a modem? [04:20] I use a UTP-cable to connect with the electrical net in my house (230v) [04:20] Oh, powerline internet [04:21] Yer [04:21] Via a router it goes to the normal cable [04:22] Gfather: is that the connection that we are also using for this chat? [04:22] nope [04:22] I got 2 computers here [04:22] This one is the AMD one running on winxp (bleh 0.o ) [04:22] How is that one connected? Not via the router? [04:22] The other one is the p2 (300 mhz) with ubuntu 6.06 [04:23] This one has wireless [04:23] Wireless to the same router or a different one? [04:23] Strange thing about this is, I do have internet on that p2, but it's very slow [04:23] Same [04:24] Could you try pinging the same two addresses from your Win XP box? [04:24] sure [04:24] 32 ms [04:24] It's pinging :) [04:25] Excellent. We've narrowed down the problem. [04:25] Other ip too [04:25] We know it's somewhere between the router (which we know works) and the Ubuntu machine (which appears to be set up correctly) [04:26] Do you know the router's LAN IP? [04:26] Not really [04:27] When you do a 'tracepath 10.11.12.13', again substituting the nameserver IP, the second line should respond to the router [04:28] So I need to use the second IP I used before with "tracepath" ? [04:28] correspond, I mean [04:28] Gfather: that or the other, doesn't matter [04:28] Ok [04:29] Ok, I got something [04:30] 1 line of information, next line says: no reply, and then a line with the ip but a way higher ms [04:30] First line has 0.843 ms, third line has 2004.217 ms [04:31] Gfather: I think those lags result from your powerline connection [04:31] When I use that connection on this computer, it does not lag at all [04:32] Is there some sort of networking device you plug into the power sockets, or are you using the raw wire? [04:33] There's some sort of device [04:33] Which has 4 LEDs [04:33] Link Act Link/Act Collision === hexidigital [n=root@unaffiliated/hexidigital] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:34] At this moment only Link/Act lights up [04:34] Is it possible that the wireless signal interferes with the powerline signal? [04:35] I used both connections at the same time on this computer, that worked a treat [04:36] I see [04:37] Does pmtu 1500 say anything? [04:37] Some packet size, I'm not sure what it means [04:37] Ok [04:37] Okay, I think I have a diagnosis [04:38] Ok [04:38] * your ubuntu setup is fine (otherwise you wouldn't get gmail at all) [04:38] * your router and internet is fine (otherwise we wouldn't be able to chat) [04:38] * your powerline connection is fine (since it works with your XP machine) [04:39] - what's left is the network hardware in your ubuntu machine. [04:39] And maybe drivers / software on the ubuntu machine? [04:40] I don't think so [04:40] Ok [04:40] Mainly because your internet does work (albeit extremely slow) === Wooksta [n=Wooksta@82-41-99-118.cable.ubr03.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:40] What should I do now? [04:40] And ethernet driver problems are exceedingly rare [04:41] any reason why "sudo init 3" wouldnt drop me down to run level 3? [04:41] Gfather: It depends on what you have lying around in the way of hardware [04:41] Any spare network cards? [04:42] What kind of wireless card does your XP machine use? [04:42] Not at this moment, next to that the machine only has USB slots left [04:42] Wireless: 802.111G standard card (don't know if it's the correct numbers) [04:43] How is it connected? PCI? USB? [04:43] Eeeerm, PCI I think [04:43] It's got it's own (big) slot which doesn't look like USB [04:44] So it's got to be PCI [04:44] Pity, cause if you had a USB wireless card, we could quickly try it with your ubuntu machine [04:45] True [04:46] If I use a crosscable, could I make a connection with my winxp machine [04:46] Yes, that would be a good idea [04:46] And via that machine, via the router connect to internet? [04:46] Now to find a crosscable ... [04:46] I got one laying here somewhere I'm sure [04:47] You'd just have to setup XP internet connection sharing. I don't know anything about that. [04:47] Ok, I'll give that a go tomorrow, because I seem to have given away all my crosscables [04:49] Here's another ide [04:49] a [04:50] If you can move your ubuntu machine and connect it directly to the router, bypassing the powerline, and it works, that would prove that the difficulty is with the powerline [04:50] That would be a problem, router downstairs, machine upstairs [04:51] Yes, I thought so... [04:51] I'm just concerned that I may not have convinced you that your Ubuntu installation is just fine... [04:51] You have [04:51] Oh, good [04:51] I'm going to try to get an extra wireless card tomorrow + a crosscable [04:52] So I can try them both and see what it does [04:52] Be careful, many wireless devices are difficult to use with Linux === Largka [n=cyrildrx@cable-195-162-211-223.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:52] Buy from a dealer who will exchange it for you [04:52] Hmmm, ok [04:53] Good advice :) [04:53] And best get a card with a Ralink chipset [04:53] Unfortunately you can't tell from the box in most cases [04:53] I could ask the dealer [04:53] Most of them won't know either [04:54] Pity [04:54] "It comes with Windows drivers -- what do you want?" [04:54] :( [04:54] Hahahaha :) [04:55] There is a dealer who specializes in Linux-supported hardware here. Maybe you have someone like that in Holland, too [04:56] I hope so [04:57] Thanks for you help [04:57] Well, good luck with your setup [04:57] Thanks [04:57] Tot ziens! [04:57] :) [04:57] See ya [04:57] :) === soundray [n=rolf@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === Cnl_Delta [i=Cnl_Delt@124.125.37.27] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === thotz [n=Thomas@d86-33-125-98.cust.tele2.at] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === amar [n=amar@59.92.167.141] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:19] amar: hello [05:19] hi [05:19] amar: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file? [05:19] yup...... [05:20] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7505/ [05:20] i have pasted here === setanta [n=a@190.142.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:22] i just want to read n write in FAT file.... [05:22] amar: ok which one do you want to change [05:22] hda 5 [05:23] amar: you want to give read and write to *everyone*? [05:23] ya... [05:24] amar: ok, in the line for hda5, change "defaults" to "umask=000" [05:24] ok.... [05:25] dat file is read only........ [05:25] not able to write anything in dat file [05:25] shld i use sudo [05:29] k........ done...... [05:29] shall i save dis file?? [05:31] thank u very much dude........ now i'm write in dat volume...... 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