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crimsun     totem | 2.17.92-0ubuntu1 | http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages12:30
crimsun     totem | 2.17.92-0ubuntu1 | http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources12:30
asacinteresting12:32
asacin edgy we have 2.16.2-0ubuntu312:33
asacahh12:33
asaci see the difference12:33
asachowever ... tilde is still not right imo ... use ubuntu1.mt112:33
asacor something alike :)12:33
asaccrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7410/12:35
asacthats the changelog of johns release ... there exist .17.91-0ubuntu312:36
asacbut where is it?12:36
crimsunIt's only there for the time being. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem12:43
crimsune.g., I see it on se.archive [http://ftp.acc.umu.se/ubuntu/pool/main/t/totem/ ] 12:43
asacyeah ... didnt see the difference in upstream version12:49
asacits weekend :)12:50
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gnomefreakanyone here? got a quick question02:40
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crimsungnomefreak: pong?06:25
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asacanyone is emacs wizard here?02:05
asacno .. wizard not needed ... needs to know something02:05
asac:)02:05
AlexLatchfordgrr silly recursion02:17
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Mimzhello03:56
asachi04:04
Mimzhi , did any one face a problem after installing the latest firefox update?04:20
AlexLatchfordwhich one?04:22
AlexLatchfordfor Feisty?04:22
Mimzit was a security update04:32
asacMimz: which version do you run?04:39
Mimzfirefox 204:43
asachaha04:47
asacno i mean the minor version04:47
asaclook about->firefox :)04:48
asac2.0.0.1 or 2.0.0.2 ?04:48
asacor really 2.0 ?04:48
asacits Help -> About Firefox04:48
Mimzyea its 2.0.0.204:52
Mimzi thought the Q was 1.5 or 204:52
asacthen you have installed mozilla.org version ... not ubuntu package04:52
asac:)04:52
asacthats not supported ;) ... at least not by us04:52
asacMimz: anyway, what problems do you see?04:54
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Mimzi thought so, but I couldn't find the mozilla room on this serve :p04:55
asac#firefox on irc.mozilla.org04:55
Mimzthe problem is that no page can be loaded, page could not be lloaded04:56
gnomefre1kWhats this crap you cant run a 64bit chroot on a 32bit proc :(05:02
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asacgnomefreak: what a coincident05:15
asactry qemu05:15
asacah ... remember your mem05:16
asacactually its bad that you cannot build a i386 build in x86_64 chroot05:17
asaci couldn't build firefox :/05:17
asacit somehow detected that this is x86_64 ... which was wrong ... though I hacked uname05:17
gnomefreakyou cant run a32bit chroot in 64bit either?05:19
asacyeah ... i still think uname was broken05:21
asacuname -m yields05:21
asacx86_6405:21
gnomefreakit may just be me but qemu seems like alot of work to test 64bit or ppc05:21
asacwhich makes mozilla build system try to build some 64bit specific code, which fails05:21
gnomefreakah05:21
asacactually half bad on mozilla side05:22
asacat lesat half ... i think they use the wrong hint to detect system05:22
asacshould look at libc05:22
asacor something05:22
asacnow letst see replaced uname in /bin/ instead of setting an alias to the fake version05:23
gnomefreakwho else besides you has 64bit env. on the team that we know of?05:23
asacdunno05:23
asacno flash for me :)05:23
asacbut gnash ;)05:23
gnomefreakthere are flash packages but they are crap :(05:24
gnomefreaklibswflash or whatever its called05:24
asacthere are?05:24
gnomefreakyeah05:24
asacah05:24
asacyeah ... but not proprietary05:24
asacbut who cares05:24
gnomefreakthey are crap (maybe as bad as gnash)05:24
asacwhen i get to a side where I can do nothing because of flash, i write an email (if i have time) and don't use it05:24
asacs/side/site/05:25
gnomefreakwel i assigne dyuo to a few retraces for 64bit. and we have a ppc retrace needed :(05:25
asacyeah ... will try to setup qemu05:25
asacfor ppc05:25
asacmaybe slow ... buf for retracing it should work05:25
asacare there feisty isos?05:26
gnomefreaki have 256mb ram i would think i can run qemu just slow as crap05:26
asacso i can install ppc qemu from those?05:26
asacyeah ... its too much for you05:26
gnomefreakasac: yes i think we still support ppc05:26
gnomefreak!daily05:26
asacah ... its an edgy report?05:27
gnomefreakdamn bots not here05:27
gnomefreakasac: yep05:27
asaci think i can find the iso then05:27
gnomefreaki have link in 2 secs05:27
gnomefreakhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/05:27
gnomefreakyep still ppc05:27
asachas alternate install console installer?05:28
asaci don't want to bother with graphics now :)05:28
asacgreat ... looks like x86 build works now in chroot05:29
gnomefreakyep looks like they all are05:29
asacreplacing /bin/uname helps05:29
gnomefreakreplacing it with?05:29
asacwith my script :)05:29
asac#!/bin/sh05:29
asacres=$(/bin/uname_orig $@)05:29
asacecho $res | sed -e 's/x86_64/i686/g'05:30
asacand cp /bin/uname /bin/uname_orig in advance05:30
asacsed is overkill of course :)05:30
gnomefreakthats it? and i can change it for 686>6405:30
asacyou can't do that05:31
asacon 32bit05:31
asacfor me its enough to work around firefox build system bug05:31
gnomefreakoh there is no way :(05:31
asacno ... amd procs are compatible with 32bit05:31
asacso yes ... otherway around ... no way ever05:32
asacdon't know if new duo core intel 64bit are compatible to amd64 ... but i think so05:32
gnomefreakwell im getting laptop but its too old to be 64bit im sure and its even worst off on mem than this pc i think05:32
asachmm05:32
asacamd64 is around for quite some time05:32
asacwe are already at dual cores05:33
asacnow05:33
gnomefreakits ibm thinkpad from year 200005:33
asac... probably too old :)05:33
gnomefreaki wont know until i get there anything else about it but it gives me something to throw windows on atleast05:33
asacdo you have banks free?05:33
asaci mean memory slots on your board05:34
gnomefreakon this one yes05:34
gnomefreakbut its some fucked up mem that goes in this05:34
asacwhat is your current setup? Just one 256mb unit?05:34
asacwhat kind of mem?05:34
asacDDR-266 ?05:35
asacor even 133 ;)05:35
gnomefreaki would have to look but iirc it rddr or something like that05:35
gnomefreaki have 133 and 100 in my p205:35
asacyeah ... but there exist p4 with SDRAM-133 too05:35
gnomefreakno05:36
asacdefinitly ;)05:36
asacmy parents got one :)05:36
gnomefreakyou have to replace 2 at a time and its hjigh dollor05:36
gnomefreakhigh*05:36
asactwo at a time? even with 133 you could replace just one ... or add just one05:37
asacsounds bad05:37
gnomefreakPC600/800 RDRAM05:37
asacwhere did you get such a system from?05:38
asacsounds pretty rare05:38
asacif rdram is rambus05:38
gnomefreakits $170.00 for 512mb05:39
asacmaybe switching mainboard would be more efficient05:39
asacdon't know about current component prices, but mb: $50 ... 1gb mem $100  should be doable?05:40
asacor what are current prices for plain ddr mem05:40
asacman ... why does ubuntu not provide a net install cd ... only those 700m thingies05:42
gnomefreakthey do05:43
gnomefreaklol05:43
asacwhere?05:43
gnomefreakUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:43
gnomefreakfrom the bot05:43
asacyeah ... but download almost done now ... so don't bother :)05:43
gnomefreaki was thinking of ask seveas about bringing ubotu in here05:44
gnomefreakalmost done? its been 8hrs already :(05:44
asacso far 18 minutes05:45
asac3 min left05:45
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gnomefreakomg thats fast05:45
asac600 K05:45
asac84% [======================================>       ]  621,445,352  573.11K/s    ETA 03:0105:45
gnomefreakdamn05:45
asacyes ... sometimes its fun05:46
asacbut in fact i couldn't life with it05:46
asaci have so many chroots to keep up to date05:46
asacs/with/without/ ... of course05:46
asacbut when i hear that some swedish and french fellows get 100mbit/static-IP for 40-50 EUR a month ... i still see potential :)05:49
gnomefreaklol05:50
gnomefreakfor me to get that its about $50.oo USD05:50
gnomefreakor more05:50
asacso its even cheaper for you ...05:51
asac50 EUR are about $7005:51
asaci guess05:51
gnomefreaki would have to check to be sure05:51
gnomefreakthese retraces arnt gonna work im seeing05:51
asacoh no ... now i remember the pain05:52
asacof qemu05:52
asaci have to setup bridged network to make things easy05:52
gnomefreakoh yuck05:52
asacyeah ... have to boot my old computer ... it should have something05:52
gnomefreakuse vmware than :)05:52
asacpah05:52
asacthat doesn't work without manually tweaking network of host either afaik05:53
gnomefreakoh05:53
asacat least i would be scared if it hacked my network config files05:53
gnomefreaktrue05:53
asacok ... which mother board has a decent intel gpu05:54
gnomefreaknot sure :(05:54
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AlexLatchfordAnyone know what the default Ubuntu Sans Font is?06:08
AlexLatchfordI'm creating a document that should be viewable cross platform in a similar view06:09
gnomefreakno me06:14
gnomefreaknot*06:14
asaci even don't know if there is a thing like a unique default sans fonts across all applications06:15
AlexLatchfordwell I thought there was a method in OOo to set it to the default sans font06:18
AlexLatchfordthen when it goes to OOo in widnows it will pick up the default sans font there06:19
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gnomefreakanyone know where i can find debs for mozilla-thunderbird=1.5.0.8-0ubuntu0.6.1006:23
asacAlexLatchford: what sans do you see in ooo ?06:23
AlexLatchfordI dont, I dont think06:23
AlexLatchfordthere should be one though06:24
asacmaybe just type sans :)06:24
asacthen you will probably get the default font ;)06:24
AlexLatchfordmeh06:24
asacyou can type arial ... and will get some mapping too06:24
AlexLatchfordif you go to System->Prefs->Fonts its Sans there06:24
asacyeah ... try type Sans in ooo font field06:25
asacdoesn't that work?06:25
gnomefreakanyone planning to do bugs this week?06:32
AlexLatchfordnot really, working on OpenDocument project06:32
asacpart time ... updating firefox is prio 107:04
asacprio 2 is submitting initial patches upstream07:05
gnomefreakk07:05
asacdamn ... qemu ppc installer doesn't boot :(07:09
asacwill try debians later on07:09
asacgreat ... debian sarge installer appears to work :)07:28
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asacgreat07:29
asaccu07:29
asacrelax :)07:29
gnomefreakwhats the chances of a laptop having reg(desktop) mem chips in it example pc133 and same proc as a desktop?08:59
gnomefreaktb 1.5.0.10 still not released :(09:07
asaclaptop same ship as desktop09:23
asachardly ever09:23
asacin a week09:23
asactbird release09:23
asachas been pushed back09:23
gnomefreakack09:24
gnomefreakmy sites down :(09:24
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=== gnomefreak runs low on retraces :)
asacoh11:33
asacno crashes left :) ?11:33
gnomefreakive been grabbing them as they come in11:34
gnomefreakits cheating i know ;)11:34
asacyeah there are some :)11:34
asacnot bad 423 reports on search for crash11:35
gnomefreakoh i know thats alot of trappling through bugs for a sunday11:35
asac[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()11:35
asacwhy do we have so many reports with that summary11:35
asacis that generated by apport11:35
asac?11:35
gnomefreakyes11:35
gnomefreakapport gives it a generic name11:35
gnomefreakthats only for feisty though11:36
gnomefreakmt-confirm and mt-summary need to be worked on if anyone knows how to read stacktraces. assuming asac is busy as i know he is11:37
gnomefreak:)11:37
asachttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs?field.tag=mt-confirm11:37
gnomefreakasac: btw i approved tony (hes the one that built kompozer for ubuntu but not sure if it will make it into feisty11:37
asacall crashes there that don't have a valid stack element need one11:37
asacaka mt-needsummary :)11:37
gnomefreakill look through them when im done with these 2 if its still early enough11:38
gnomefreakoh shit i cant11:38
asacfor now taking the first mozilla code functino would be ok11:38
gnomefreakim waiting to be approved for beta testing11:38
asachttp://librarian.launchpad.net/6525103/Stacktrace11:38
asacoh11:38
asacyou can replace beta by www11:38
asaci guess11:39
asacsorry for posting this link11:39
gnomefreakah11:39
asacin that stacktrace11:39
gnomefreakthats a good stack11:39
asacuse "firefox crash [@gtk_style_realize] 11:39
asacas title11:39
gnomefreakit looks like gtk bug11:39
asacnsProfileLock::FatalSignalHandler is not worth noting11:39
asacyeah ... actually take the first valid stack element after FatalSignalHandler11:40
asacno its not11:40
asacit crashes in gtk11:40
asacbut we are probably the ones that pass corrupted data11:40
gnomefreakthats what i meant11:40
gnomefreakwe have a bunch of those11:40
asacsure11:40
gnomefreakbunch== maybe 100 or so11:40
asacthats why i need a [@gtk_style_realize]  in summary11:40
asacthen i will take a look what variants exist11:40
asacand see what stack elements might be significant11:41
gnomefreakk11:41
asacall that are the same, are duplicates11:41
asacwe should open a "hot issues" page in wiki11:41
asacwith stacks of most posted crasherse11:41
asacand maybe give master bug a alias name11:41
gnomefreakshould i just change summary and leave not marked as dupe?11:41
gnomefreak+1 that idea11:41
asacif you have exact stacktrace match11:41
asacthan you can mark as duplicate11:42
asactake the one with the better information as master bug11:42
=== gnomefreak thinks we have a master bug for that
asacbut lets not give it a name for now. Still unsure if that is acutally what we want11:42
asacsure11:42
asacwe have a gtk_style_realize master11:42
asacbut please look if trace is really the same11:42
asaci remember at least two distinct issues that end up in that function11:43
asacmight be different, but related problems11:43
gnomefreakyeah i saw hjmf comment about that on a bug11:43
gnomefreakfor now i will mark them as [@gtk_style_realize]  take mt-summary and leave mt-confirm11:44
gnomefreakthat way we know it needs to be read for dupe11:44
asacyes fine11:45
asacwill do so sometime next week ... at least a good bunch11:45
gnomefreakok if you happen to have pull for the beta LP team get them to appove me ;)11:46
asacactually as we get that many reports it should be so hard to reproduce11:46
asachehe ... maybe i come around some ;)11:46
asacdon't know the policy though11:46
gnomefreakah11:47
gnomefreaksomething is wrong here11:47
asacwhere?11:47
gnomefreakapport11:47
asacwhy?11:47
=== gnomefreak thinks its broken from usage :(
gnomefreakits not doing anything will try again11:48
asacwhat is kompozer?11:48
asac(on tony)11:48
gnomefreakits NVU but under new name mozilla related product11:49
asacah ok ... who has taken over nvu development?11:49
asachasn't mozilla dropped it?11:49
gnomefreaknvu stopped maintaining NVU and some of the devels took over making kompozer iirc11:49
asacor was it never maintained by them?11:49
gnomefreakyes mozilla dropped it for kompozer11:49
asacyeah ... nice ... will he appear on irc too?11:50
gnomefreaknvu might have been mozilla i dont remember11:50
gnomefreakhes all over irc11:50
asacwho?11:50
gnomefreakhe was having issue building it the other day11:50
gnomefreaktonyyarusso11:50
asacnot in this channel :)11:51
gnomefreakhe was. he asked last night about his issue but you werent here he finally figured it out11:51
asac:)11:52
asacok11:52
gnomefreakgnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/bug87859$ apport-retrace -s -v -d 87859 2>&1 | tee retrace.log   isnt working :(11:55
gnomefreakits just sitting there :(11:56
gnomefreakmaybe i used my apport quota :(12:01
asacyeah probably for today12:02
asacmaybe network problems downloading report=12:02
asac?12:02
gnomefreakits nto giving any feedback im gonna give it 10 minutes on this try if it doesnt do anything i will finish the other one i have nad reboot12:03
gnomefreaks/nad/and12:03
asachmm12:04
asacothers work?12:04
gnomefreakthey did. i cant run 2 at once but will be trying soon12:05
asacbad news is, that I couldn't get ubuntu ppc installed on qemu. debian installer at least started but failed on hardware discovery12:05
gnomefreakoh crap12:06
gnomefreakhow do we build for ppc now?12:06
asaci don't12:06
asachave no ppc hardware12:06
asacand don't want such  :)12:06
gnomefreakbtw tonyyarusso was looking for someone to do a ppc build on kompozer too :(12:07
asaci think i can build on some devel machines12:07
=== gnomefreak doesnt have a ppc yet im hoping to find someone wanting to get rid of one but its not going well
gnomefreakwith a local crash report apport works fine. when its done ill test on another report12:09
asacyes there is a machine I could misuse12:11
asacwill have to figure out ;)12:11
asacguess it has no real net access12:11
asacso not much use for retraces12:11
asachmm ... no apport installed on it12:13
asacadded to TODO list12:13
gnomefreakive had get a cheap ppc on my to do list for 4 years12:14
gnomefreakits still top on it12:14
asachehe12:15
asacwhat for?12:15
asaci can do retrace ... or we wait for someone with powerpc joining the team12:15
asacwho of us is active in forums?12:15
gnomefreakmaybe alex ot freddy12:16
gnomefreakor12:16
=== gnomefreak not really but i do have people i deal with daily that are mods on forums or use them alot
gnomefreakhmmm it seems apport isnt working on feisty crashes at all. brb gonna try reboot12:18
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