=== darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [12:29] Thanks grazie === SatanGolga [i=SatanGol@c-4e72e253.38-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [12:29] Another quick question, where do i go about extracting mouse cursor themes i get from xfcelook? [12:33] akao: mouse cursor themes? Aren't they in the icon packages? [12:33] Well when i download them directly from xfce it just gives me a tar file with the icons inside [12:34] akao: icons go in ~/.icons === Kresjah_laptop sighs [12:34] I fell asleep [12:35] But, I did find some interesting info on my card just a minute ago [12:35] From a forum post I found on google: "Does anybody got a wlan card with rt2561 chipset working? I just bought this card, and according to this site: http://ralink.rapla.net/ , my card has a rt2500 chipset,and breezy supports rt2500. But something must have changed, so now it has the rt2561 chipset, and i have no idea on how to get this working." [12:38] hah [12:38] there we go, thanks grazie. [12:38] np === RememberPOL [n=Username@pdanilov.student.iastate.edu] has joined #xubuntu === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@ip51cf105c.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] I'm having trouble mounting an ISO image... [12:53] Maybe the ISO is corrupted? (But I don't think so) === fxr [n=fxr@89.242.194.233] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] pol@pol-laptop:~/Desktop/cd$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop cd.iso /mnt [12:53] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, [12:54] Unable to identify CD-ROM format. [12:54] That exact command works fine on one of my ISOs. [12:55] how do i can i set up my xubuntu box, so i can connect to it remotely... (from another ubuntu box?) i notice this is *easy* in gnome, [12:55] hmm [12:55] same here [12:55] same the ISO is corrupt :| [01:00] fxr: Search "xdmcp" and "xfce" === RememberPOL [n=Username@pdanilov.student.iastate.edu] has left #xubuntu [] === Kresjah_laptop [n=Kresjah@ti231210a080-14209.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [01:03] Hey! could someone tell me how to get access to my floppy disk? Guess I'll have to mount it, but what specific parameters should I mount with? [01:10] k thanks RememberPOL, ll hgave a look.. [01:10] you get that pc sorted Kresjah_laptop?!??! [01:10] (wireless) [01:10] Not yet, although I did uncover some revealing iinformation [01:11] One forum post in the depths of the web told me something [01:11] yeah? [01:11] That at some point, they switched chipsets [01:11] yeah.. i noticed something myself about that, should have said uses the RT61 [01:11] ?!?! [01:11] Yup, exactly === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [01:12] So now I'm trying to get the driver transferred from my laptop to the xubuntu machine [01:12] k.. thats the chipset in my NIC.. ll forward you the guide i used... [01:12] But I can't figure out how to get it to register the floppy drive *feels dumb* [01:13] for RT61: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?action=show&redirect=Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo [01:14] there is a mount applet to can add to your panel you know.. [01:14] Oh? [01:14] Let me check [01:14] Ahh, I ee [01:14] see [01:17] Hmm... I added the applet to the panel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] If I click on it, it shows the mount points, and status (not mounted in the case of floppy0) [01:18] But I can't find a way to get it to mount them. === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] just click it... i dont have a floppy drive, but it does for my hdd & cdrom === yendor [n=yendor@206.188.243.98] has joined #xubuntu [01:19] I've tried, but it doesn't mount the floppy anyways [01:20] What type (for -t) is a floppy formatted in windows considered (FAT) [01:20] ? [01:20] dunno mate.. [01:21] can u decontruct that? its for a windows fat partition sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 [01:22] Uhm [01:22] It's a floppy disk [01:22] Not a hd [01:23] What I mean is that when I formated it, I used the format dialog in winxp [01:23] Which only gives me one choice for filesystem on the floppy disk, which is fat [01:24] aye so.. -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 === underdog5004 [n=matthew@75.111.25.7] has joined #xubuntu [01:25] But fd0 or fd1 instead of hda1, right? [01:26] yeah.. is that mount applet giving you a clue as to your floppy disk id? [01:26] Nope... it only shows it as /dev/ [01:26] ahh [01:27] sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy -t vfat [01:28] Lovely mate, lovely [01:29] Now I got the tarball, ready to start building the rt61 :D [01:31] its handy.. that link i posted earlier walks ye right through it.. [01:33] Umm... one major problem [01:33] "Installing the necessary packages for the compilation" [01:33] And then sudo apt-get [01:33] That guide presumes you've got an internet connection up and running :s [01:33] mount your cd as a repo.. [01:34] sudo apt-get cdrom add (i think) build-essential etc are on the live cd, m not hundred % sure about the alt cd tho [01:34] I have both cd's, so... :p === yendor [n=yendor@206.188.243.98] has joined #xubuntu [01:35] yer laughing then.. the command is sudo apt-cdrom add [01:36] There we go... added [01:37] So now I just apt-get, right? [01:37] spt-get update [01:37] the apt-get install whatever [01:41] Compiling now :) === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #xubuntu === LordGamer [n=LordGame@74.12.56.244] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] SSID in the .dat config file refers to the ESSID, right? === almartz [n=chatzill@201-35-187-163.cslce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #xubuntu === duglas [n=douglas@cpe-24-58-207-250.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:52] yeah [01:53] here .. ve updated my kernel to 2.6.20 straight from a rebuild, how do i stop the 2.6.17.11 kernel update nag, from apt-get does anyone know? === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.125] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] Hmm... that didn't work === jlamr [n=jlamr@FT-ESR1-208-102-54-63.fuse.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:02] This step didn't show any ra0: [02:02] To check if the module is activated and working, you should verify that ra0 device is visible in the output of iwconfig: $ iwconfig [02:02] I continued with the rest of the guide nevertheless [02:02] $ sudo ifup ra0 <--- that fails [02:03] anybody used fluxbox or some other lightweight window manager? I'm wondering how to set the GTK iconset. (I figured out the theme.) It's using GNOME and I'd prefer Tango. [02:03] I know it shouldn't be necessary in theory, but should I try a reboot? === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.7.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:03] can anybody recommend an ssh client - I like putty on windows [02:03] putty on linux? :p [02:04] ssh [02:04] Yeah, just wanted to get some opinions maybe try somethin new [02:05] like the gui [02:05] putty is in the repos [02:05] !putty [02:05] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ [02:05] !info putty [02:05] putty: Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.58-4 (edgy), package size 270 kB, installed size 672 kB [02:05] see it says for windows, whyzat? [02:06] that's cause PuTTY is originally for Windows, but they ported it to UNIX/X [02:07] apt-get install putty [02:07] ah makes sense, yeah I got that === fxr [n=fxr@89.242.194.233] has joined #xubuntu [02:13] Getting anywhere with your problems fxr? [02:15] .. yeah.. m getting through it. hows your rt61? === goldstein [n=nuno@a213-22-152-24.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #xubuntu [02:16] After a reboot, ra0 now shows up [02:17] Trying to get it to link with AP now [02:17] Although it doesn't seem to do that [02:18] But iwlist scan finds my ap === xfrost [n=xfrost@200.92.77.30] has joined #xubuntu [02:18] So it's just a matter of setting up configs correctly... [02:19] is there a reason you guys don't just ssh and fish ? [02:20] fish is konqueror [02:20] Probably just a matter of taste [02:20] what do you mean anyway? [02:20] Some prefer being racers on terminal commands, others prefer a nice point'n'click interface [02:21] you can't use fish in anything else? === cellofellow likes a good blend. Started with KDE, then XFCE, now Fluxbox + ROX. [02:21] there's always sftp if you wanna go CLI [02:21] gFTP does SFTP. [02:22] ah, is that a gui? [02:22] but no FTPS (SSL instead of SSH encryption.) [02:22] yes, has CLI and GTK modes. [02:22] linuxtracker.org is such a valuable resource for linux torrents! [02:22] lol, sorry for the spam...I'm d/l'ing the xubuntu alt cd right now... [02:22] thanks, I'll keep that in mind. [02:23] ok, just think b4 you type I guess. there's also #xubuntu-offtopic if you must yammer. [02:23] hello .. i installed xubuntu 6.06 on a p2 with 96 RAM ... i know it is too litle, but want to give it a try. but xfce freaks out all the time.. windows appears without clicking, log out dialog appears all the time with no reason... network manager also stalls all the time.. the ram is good according to memtest.. any ideas? [02:24] might be a bad hdd [02:24] like, bad sectors in the swap partition... [02:24] hum.. i see. [02:24] just throwing it out there [02:24] I'm going to go take a nice hot bath, bbl [02:25] i though it was bad ram.. i had a 256 module which i removed after memtest showd some errors.. but the problems continue the same [02:25] so, I got putty, cant find it in the fluxbox menus, its works when [02:25] i type it in the terminal [02:26] well, um, use bbrun or something? [02:26] make a link to it from the desktop...I don't know how, of course. [02:26] :/ i have no clue on waths wrong. [02:26] on ROX just drag and drop. [02:26] bbrun? [02:27] it's a run-dialog program for the slit in BlackBox (bb) and Fluxbox. [02:27] how can I do that with XFCE? [02:27] underdog5004: add a launcher [02:27] oh the slit, havent figured that out yet :) [02:28] jlamr: just run a windowmaker dockapp or similar program and watch it sit in the slit, which gets bigger as more dockapps populate it. [02:29] oh ok, I will learn to when I get xubuntu installed...got this damn old 4-8x drive (not sure what speed exactly)...install is taking forever! [02:29] jlamr: http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/ubuntu/wiki/?FluxBox [02:29] :( that is slow. [02:29] no wiki link? [02:30] what? [02:30] that's just my home website [02:30] is there a way to check the sanity of a cdrom drive? [02:30] oh wait that wasnt you, my bad [02:31] where the slit in that pic? === heydaveTX [n=david@70.240.40.253] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] the top [02:32] ah nice, I still havent figured out how a to add icons to desktop....much reading to do [02:33] What on earth?! [02:33] well, I'm using ROX-Filer's Pinboard for the desktop icons. [02:33] I am now so darn close to get my wireless up and running [02:33] iwlist ra0 shows my AP and everything [02:33] My key is correct an everything [02:33] So I do an ifup ra0 [02:34] yeah? [02:34] It does 8 DHCPDISCOVERs, where two of them end up in DHCPOFFER from the adsl router [02:35] Yet it ends up saying that no DCHPOFFERS recieved [02:35] And goes nightynighy [02:35] ..why dont you just give it a static address? [02:35] I could of course just do that :p === fxr wishes he could find the piece of paper he wrote his graphics card serial number down on [02:36] I've been fiddling with issues for so long that I've stopped seeing the obvious solutions :p === vidd [n=josh@static-72-86-132-131.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Kresjah_laptop goes bananas and hugs fxr [02:37] :p [02:38] I hope this rig will be more stable as a gateway than when I ran microsucks os on it [02:39] anyone know a quick and dirty way to get the VIA P4M800 display adapter (intigrated) to work? [02:41] happy days.. aye mate, i say it will, once you have it config'ed you should be able to just leave it and forget about it.. [02:41] Indeed [02:42] My old windows rig seemed to get overloaded at some times, and required you to repair connection and such every now and then [02:42] Also, it has an easy interface to run it on [02:45] are you gonna upgrade the xubuntu software on that box..? just be aware that the new kernel 2.6.11 will 'break' rt61 [02:46] its not a mjor prob to fix tho [02:46] 2.6.17.11 even [02:47] ah, that bath was so nice...I used the coconut soap my mom got me for christmas. Awesome...I feel so good right now. Oh, and I"m not gay! lol [02:47] *wave* underdog5004 [02:47] hey, wassup? [02:47] still installing... [02:47] underdog5004, this is the system i tolod you about yesterday: [02:47] fxr: I'll make sure not to upgrade that kernel then [02:47] os[Linux 2.6.17-11-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz @ 2.27GHz] mem[Physical : 439MB, 73.8% free] disk[Total : 108.80GB, 93.00% Free] video[VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP] sound[] [02:48] the video still dont work right [02:48] wow...umm...cool [02:48] bummer, did you try a seperate gfx card? [02:49] you can do the updates sudo apt-get upgrade, but avaoid sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... === vidd thinks the kid can buy his OWN high-speed card if he REALLY wants it.... [02:49] the 2.6.20 (feisty) kernel is super fast btw : ) [02:50] I tried ubuntu feisty on my laptop [02:50] vidd, why not just use some crappy old nvidia card? [02:50] yeah..? [02:50] its not like he's going to be playing graphix intensive games [02:50] vidd, why not just use some crappy old nvidia card? === vidd is seriously considering it [02:50] that's what I'd do in that situation... [02:50] But the wireless connection gets killed due to a network manager bug === vidd only have 5 laying around....... [02:50] Although that was herd3 === firefish [n=yhy@218.2.42.17] has joined #xubuntu [02:51] Also, people on #ubuntu didn't want to help due to using an unsupported version [02:51] Who could make that quake3 run under xubuntu with sound and don't crashes after finish the first level?. [02:51] (I'm having problems with GL on this laptop you see) [02:52] Kresjah_laptop, what vid card? [02:52] right, i had a bit of messing around to gett that rt61 driver working in 2.6.20 [02:52] vidd: ATI Mobility M1 (mach64 chipset). === morphir [n=morphir@217.168.81.4] has joined #xubuntu [02:52] that #ubuntu channel is so very busy [02:52] you use the open ATI driver? [02:53] It's far too old for that [02:53] i gave up on ATI... [02:53] really? [02:53] It's an 8MB card [02:53] That tells a bit about it's age [02:53] : ) === vidd fired ATI BEFORE he fired M$ [02:54] The problem is that kernel modules aren't supplied with the OS due to some odd dri security issues or something [02:54] However, one can get them from building mesa yourself [02:54] ...which fails miserably [02:54] is there a command i can issue to stop x rather than the using ctrl alt f1 ? [02:55] isnt building mesa yourself something like moving the pyramids with a hand truck? [02:55] There have only been one person able to help me for over a months worth of requesting help... he even decided to try building it himself [02:55] So we have both a TON of extra packages installed, and it still fails [02:56] oh...so its like moving the pyramids with a SPOON!!!! [02:56] However, he had to go to bed at that time that day, and I haven't been able to be online at the same time as he has been after that day [02:57] Heh, yeah [02:57] Or rather... you need the "there is no spoon"-ability [02:57] how hard is it to specify during install that you want to use an A [02:58] PG card instead of the built in card? [02:58] just disable the onboard video in the BIOS [02:58] alright..... [02:58] cracking the case....AGAIN!!!! [02:58] lol [02:59] Good luck :p === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-131.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:59] the kid better not come to me next week saying "I want windows on this new computer" [02:59] seriously! [03:01] Heh, maybe you should have asked that kiddie about it before you continue with this madness :p [03:01] I have a Sound Blaster Audigy SE sound card, In xubuntu it works, but it only works out of 2 speakers and the sub, if i get the alsa drivers will it be surrond sound then, or should I leave well enough alone? [03:01] he wants windows, he can get the old POS back [03:01] Thanks in advance for any help [03:02] Hehe [03:02] yendor...so, what are you asking? are you asking what I'd do? I'd just leave well enough alone, cause I don't really care about surround sound. === gripir is now known as gripiR [03:03] well i mean it would be really nice if it worked with my sorround sound, is it possible? Is it just a waste of time to try and get the alsa driver? [03:03] do what you like. If it doesn't work, seems like you can always get it back the way you had it. [03:04] ok, one more question if you can help me [03:04] lol, ok [03:05] What are the drivers that come with Xubuntu for sound? are they alsa or just standard something else? [03:05] lol, I have no idea, sorry. I would guess alsa [03:05] alsa stuff, not OSS. [03:06] i thought alsa WAS linux sound..... [03:06] =\ [03:06] nope, there are other servers, although alsa is basically the standard nowadays. [03:06] it is. yendor is probably confused about it. I am too. [03:06] i am confused i admit [03:06] arts USES alsa, it's an abstraction layer. [03:06] oh, whoops, my bad. [03:08] what I'm confused about is how alsa uses this weird device syntax instead of /dev files. [03:08] I thought it used /dev/dsp* [03:09] that's oss. [03:09] so does the xubuntu come with alsa drivers? [03:09] and alsa oss emulation. [03:09] yes, yes. alsa practically IS drivers. [03:09] Cello, any idea how to get sorround sound working? [03:10] !surround [03:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:10] !alsa [03:10] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [03:10] try the Sound link [03:11] alright [03:11] aaaaagh! I'm on the very last step in the guide to making my two nic cards work together as a gateway [03:11] But that last step fails [03:11] I'm supposed to use this command: === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:12] underdog5004, i put an old Nvida card in, and now there are lines going across the screen..... [03:12] route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw ???.???.???.??? dev eth0 [03:12] it's a bad card, try another one [03:12] Where the ??? ip of course is the adsl modem === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] you can read the sreen...just have the ghost lines [03:13] But I just get at SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable [03:13] u sure that 192.168.0.0 is correct [03:13] Yup, my internal network is 192.168.0.??? [03:14] vidd_laptop, I've had the same problem, it's almost always the card...it may be the monitor cable though...look for loose pins [03:14] Just running route shows that eth0 is running 192.168.0.0 network too [03:14] the monitor works just fine in the onboard plug [03:15] then it's the card [03:15] mm so what are you trying to achieve here, is this on anther pc or on your gateway pc.. [03:15] This is on my gateway PC... hold on, I'll fetch you the link to the guide [03:16] http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html [03:16] What an awful address :p [03:16] I've followed example 2 [03:16] at least the onboard is auto disabled when ya plug in an apg card [03:17] Of course, in that example eth0 would become my ra0 and eth1 would become my eth0 [03:17] yeah.. was just gonna say that.. ahh did all them ip tables cms go ok? [03:18] Yup... all of them work [03:21] i just dont like the look of 192.168.0.0 isnt that a reserved address or something? [03:21] whats the address of your router? [03:21] Maybe I've mixed up my addresses... I thought that was reserved for local network adresses just like 10.0.0.??? === curado [n=curado@201.86.155.9.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] 10.0.0.138 [03:22] use the 10.*.*.* domain then. [03:22] not the 192.168.*.* === frankabel [n=frankabe@200.55.139.22] has joined #xubuntu [03:22] I thought that the cards should be on seperate networks to avoid direct access [03:23] correction: ...seperate domains... [03:23] how can I stop Xorg in xubuntu? [03:23] well, you could put the inside card on a 199.168.*.* network. Best thing to do would be to use 192.168.0.* for the outside net and 192.168.1.* for the subnet. [03:23] I know that with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" I can stop it on gnome [03:23] same thing [03:24] Well, I can't change the IP of the internet adsl router [03:24] cellofellow thanks [03:24] So I have to use the wireless card as 10.0.0.? [03:24] wait, you CAN'T change the INTERNAL IP of your router? [03:25] I can't set the EXTERNAL on mine, but the internal is no problemo. [03:25] Nope [03:26] why? [03:26] That would pose problems if the landlord (who has the router) needs to call the support from the ISP [03:26] The ISP would definately not give him support then [03:26] oh, it's not yours? [03:26] cellofellow: when you say "same thing", are you talking to me? [03:26] frankabel: yes [03:27] Nope [03:27] I share connection with the landlord upstairs [03:27] Kresjah_laptop: you should be able to use a 192.168.*.* address I think. maybe 192.168.1.* instead of .....0. [03:28] yeah just use 192.168.10.0 like in the example [03:28] cellofellow: Thanks again. When I stop and start Xorg all the GUI app that I had open like firefox etc. will be closed after restart the Xorg? [03:28] the session saver may reopen it. [03:29] Two secs, I'll try to use 10 then [03:29] odd.....BEFORE i log into x, i can bring up tty1, but AFTER, i cant [03:29] i may be wrong but i think 192.168.0.0 is outside of your routers' routing tables, [03:30] Nope, still the same error [03:30] The intersting thing is that [03:30] what error is it? [03:31] cellofellow: so all the app are closed, and due to if I have a text editor open and restart Xorg I can lost info if I not save it first? [03:31] lost data, yes [03:31] Trying to just type route to show the routes table gives me: dest: 192.168.10.0, gw: *, mask: 255.255.255.0, flags: U, met:0 ref:0 use:0, iface: eth0 [03:32] The erroris SIOCADDRT: [03:32] Ooops [03:32] I always hit the enter instead of backspace [03:32] cellofellow: thanks! [03:32] I try again: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable. [03:33] i have a NAT prep'ed on my machine for vm sessions.. my iptables is identical except i have: sudo echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq [03:34] iptables script.. i dont know what it does but : s\ [03:36] gggrrrrr, now the wifi card is dead! [03:36] did you update your kernel? [03:36] yeah [03:36] to 2.6.17-11? [03:36] lol [03:36] yeah....... [03:36] that a BAD thing now? [03:36] there is a fix...I can't remember what...except to use the -10 kernel... [03:36] what card is it? [03:37] hit ESC when Grub is loading to do that [03:37] rt61 rt50 [03:38] some schmuck already uninstalled the -10...... [03:39] uh...do an lspci and lets see what card you've got... [03:39] yeah... [03:39] hhhmmmmm not showing up....... [03:39] is it usb? [03:39] no [03:40] its pci [03:40] and the light is green [03:40] did you do anything to install it.. when you first set up ubuntu or did it just work? [03:40] hmmm [03:40] so it SHOULD be talking with the mobo...... [03:40] fxr worked out of the box [03:40] Now this is really interesting [03:41] bang....dead box [03:41] vidd_laptop, search the forums, you gotto work out what module its using.. [03:41] it used [03:41] Qoute from another site regarding the route error: The routeaddr isn't on a directly-connected network so this machine would be unable to forward packets to it [03:42] And actually, that makes sense [03:42] reinstall coming right up [03:42] its faster then reading the forums [03:42] ahahhaha [03:42] Kresjah_laptop, did u do modprobes for iptables & that [03:42] sad but true [03:43] Seeing as I have the gateway here (with the wireless card), which connects to an access point upstairs, which in turn connects to the adsl modem (which isn't wireless) [03:43] So, that's two hops rather than one [03:43] i am SOOO never using MSI again [03:43] Which is, from what I've heard, a requirement for route to work [03:44] no if the access point is a router then its only one [03:44] Kreator, why not fire up the alt cd and just install a LSTP on the box? [03:44] Aww well [03:44] Pizza's ready, and GF wants to watch a movie [03:44] *LTSP* [03:44] So I'll be back in a few hours [03:45] Good luck to all of you, hope oyu solve your prtobs [03:45] hahah nice.. m gonna have to do somehing wi this gfx drivers before i hit the hay.. [03:45] nite fella === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-69-136.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] posingaspopular: you there? === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.125] has joined #xubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #xubuntu === comradec [n=comrade@c-71-58-80-55.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:51] if I want to add an item to the quicklaunch that requires u to sudo, can u add it to the quciklanch command to bring up that sudo prompt === DannyBhoy [i=blarg@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] yes [03:53] I believe so. [03:53] Use 'gksudo'. [03:54] thanks that worked === AzRich [n=Rich@ip68-109-161-201.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:58] Anybody home? [03:58] yep [03:58] im not @ work....that ount>? [03:58] Yep, thanks. [03:58] I just installed xubuntu for the first time. I can't find anywhere to configure my wireless card, though. [03:59] what card ya using? [03:59] Any advice where to look? it doesn't look like ubuntu did [03:59] Applications>System>Networking for a gui [03:59] It's an off-brand pcmcia card that worked ok with ubuntu and puppy [03:59] when you instaled..... [04:00] did it ask for any info about it? [04:00] don't think it asked for it. [04:01] applications>system>network pulls up something to configure a modem. [04:01]