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| Riddell | manchicken: hi | 12:58 |
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| manchicken | Howdy | 01:04 |
| manchicken | Got time for a little /msging? | 01:04 |
| manchicken | I know you've got that fosdem thingy going on. | 01:05 |
| nixternal | woo Riddell! I have been reading about it over at the dot and planet.kde, fosdem looks like it was pretty good | 01:21 |
| Riddell | I'm going to sleep for a week now | 01:26 |
| Riddell | it was pretty tireing | 01:26 |
| ryanakca | sounds fun | 01:28 |
| manchicken | heh | 01:28 |
| manchicken | Hopefully UDS will be like that. | 01:29 |
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| manchicken | In conferences like that, if it's easy to get back to your room then you could have been more productive ^_^ | 01:32 |
| manchicken | Or you haven't been drinking enough after supper. | 01:33 |
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| Riddell | well UDS is just ubuntu | 01:40 |
| manchicken | Was fosdem more wide-reaching? | 01:40 |
| Riddell | but fosdem is all of free software, all at once | 01:40 |
| manchicken | Ah. | 01:40 |
| Riddell | there's 12 tracks of talks going on at any one time | 01:41 |
| manchicken | I know they have a lot more conferences in Europe for Free software than they do here. | 01:41 |
| Riddell | and the trick is to manage to get away from the ones your know like KDE and find projects you don't know so you can see how other people work | 01:41 |
| manchicken | That's cool. | 01:42 |
| manchicken | I'm gonna be telecommuting permanently, so I could definitely use some more practice. | 01:42 |
| manchicken | I'm gonna have to beef up my home office considerably. | 01:44 |
| manchicken | Like... buying a phone and a table. heh. | 01:46 |
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| DaSkreech | jjesse: Hello | 02:23 |
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| === ryanakca should really get around to writing that KMail + gpg-agent HOWTO... | ||
| ryanakca | that way I can follow it when I forget how to set it up | 02:28 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 02:30 |
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| DaSkreech | !freedroid | 02:36 |
| ubotu | freedroid: A clone of Paradroid - a strategic shoot-em up. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2+cvs040112-1 (edgy), package size 134 kB, installed size 312 kB | 02:36 |
| DaSkreech | !freedroid feisty | 02:36 |
| ubotu | freedroid: A clone of Paradroid - a strategic shoot-em up. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2+cvs040112-1 (feisty), package size 134 kB, installed size 312 kB | 02:36 |
| DaSkreech | What! | 02:37 |
| DaSkreech | Wait :) | 02:37 |
| DaSkreech | !find freedroid | 02:37 |
| ubotu | Found: freedroid, freedroid-data | 02:37 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm no freedroidRPG | 02:37 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 02:58 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 02:58 |
| bddebian | Hi Jucato | 02:58 |
| ryanakca | Anybody having trouble updating artwork on an iPod with amarok? Amarok tells me it's updated/transfered, but when I disconnect, I don't see it | 02:58 |
| ryanakca | hey bddebian, yuriy | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Hi ryanakca | 02:59 |
| yuriy | hey ryanakca | 02:59 |
| yuriy | hmm always read that as ryanacka before | 03:00 |
| ryanakca | lol | 03:00 |
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| yuriy | ryanakca: no i'm not having trouble with it, i don't have such an evil device ;) | 03:03 |
| ryanakca | lol | 03:03 |
| DaSkreech | hi bddebian | 03:04 |
| bddebian | Heya DaSkreech | 03:05 |
| DaSkreech | Yo | 03:05 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Sup? | 03:05 |
| DaSkreech | !atlantik feisty | 03:18 |
| ubotu | atlantik: KDE client for Monopoly-like network games. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 377 kB, installed size 1080 kB | 03:18 |
| DaSkreech | Strange the version i kurrently have is 0.7.5 They must have done a hell of a lot of development | 03:19 |
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| DaSkreech | http://canllaith.org/?p=28 | 05:40 |
| DaSkreech | Heya Hobbsee | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | hey DaSkreech | 05:41 |
| DaSkreech | how are you? | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | good :) | 05:42 |
| nixternal | boo | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | trying to figure otu deliveries and rain | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: BOO!!!! | 05:42 |
| nixternal | hiya kubuntueros | 05:42 |
| nixternal | ahhhh!@!@!# | 05:42 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if Riddell is around | ||
| === DaSkreech kicks nixternal | ||
| nixternal | thanks DaSkreech | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | Is he at FOSDEM? | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: I poked you hours ago! | 05:43 |
| nixternal | he is sleeping right now | 05:43 |
| nixternal | you did? | 05:43 |
| DaSkreech | and Hobbsee breathes in here and you wake up | 05:43 |
| nixternal | so did about 50 other people, so I may have overlooked it | 05:43 |
| nixternal | I have been cleaning up after an ice storm, then a snow storm, then another ice storm, then 2 or 3 more snow storms, and a small thunderstorm in between | 05:44 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Nice tropical home huh? | 05:44 |
| nixternal | and now we are currently getting another inch or 2 of snow | 05:44 |
| nixternal | hah, one of these days I will live in Mexico | 05:44 |
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| DaSkreech | Or mexico will move to you one of the two | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: heh | 05:45 |
| nixternal | heh | 05:45 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: heh? | 05:46 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Hehing the heh? | 05:46 |
| nixternal | heh | 05:46 |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: at him waking up at me breathing | 05:46 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Well I only use evidence presented | 05:47 |
| nixternal | I must say, Kivio sucks for flow charting | 05:47 |
| nixternal | Connecting is a pita | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: heh | 05:50 |
| DaSkreech | :-P | 05:50 |
| DaSkreech | Well nixternal and jjesse were ignoring me so I'm peeved | 05:50 |
| nixternal | what? | 05:51 |
| nixternal | haha | 05:51 |
| DaSkreech | Ah well Book is shipping off tomorrow | 05:51 |
| nixternal | I swore jjesse told me the freeze wasn't for a couple of weeks | 05:52 |
| DaSkreech | He might have. I don't know. He told me he had to get it off by Monday | 05:53 |
| DaSkreech | I don't know if the freeze is monday I sure hope not cause he had huge sections unwritten and incorrect | 05:53 |
| DaSkreech | draft 0.0.1 alpha maybe? | 05:53 |
| nixternal | hopefully | 05:54 |
| yuriy | what happened to the always use this action for this type of file option? | 05:54 |
| nixternal | there is a LOT of missing information | 05:54 |
| yuriy | nixternal: hmm i rather liked kivio actually. my roommate was impressed by it :D | 06:00 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah | 06:01 |
| DaSkreech | Has anyone seen the Gnome Screensaver in Feisty? | 06:01 |
| nixternal | wth is GNOME? :) | 06:02 |
| DaSkreech | It's this evil european thing | 06:04 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:05 |
| DaSkreech | But the screensaver is envious | 06:06 |
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| DaSkreech | When you do a preview of the screensaver you can press a next button to see the next one in the list | 06:24 |
| yuriy | neat | 06:26 |
| yuriy | but you still can't actually configure the screensaver can you | 06:26 |
| DaSkreech | Nope Gnome is silly | 06:29 |
| DaSkreech | Course KDE did take out the one part of xscreensaver I love | 06:30 |
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| DaSkreech | Did Kubuntu take screensavers out? | 07:35 |
| yuriy | hmmm? | 07:37 |
| DaSkreech | Just looked in the screensaver dialog. It looks sparse | 07:37 |
| yuriy | i have screensavers.. though i guess that's not an indicator of much.. | 07:37 |
| DaSkreech | How many per category? | 07:37 |
| yuriy | oh whoa you're right | 07:38 |
| yuriy | all the openGL ones are still there, but the rest only have 2-3 | 07:38 |
| yuriy | oh well why run a screensaver without opengl prettiness | 07:38 |
| DaSkreech | No drivers? | 07:39 |
| lotusleaf | there are extra screensavers to install | 07:41 |
| lotusleaf | search in adept/synaptic whatever for screensaver | 07:41 |
| DaSkreech | CD space? | 07:41 |
| DaSkreech | !find screensaver | 07:41 |
| ubotu | Found: gnome-screensaver, kscreensaver, kscreensaver-xsavers, screensaver-default-images, xscreensaver (and 6 others) | 07:41 |
| DaSkreech | It looks like some screensavers are really made just for KDE | 07:43 |
| yuriy | maybe kscreensaver-xsavers was installed before | 07:44 |
| yuriy | DaSkreech: have you seen the fireworkgs GL screensaver? it shoots up stuff like kde icons and text | 07:45 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah | 07:45 |
| DaSkreech | yuriy: checked the config for it? | 07:46 |
| yuriy | no, why? | 07:46 |
| DaSkreech | You can add in new fireworks | 07:47 |
| DaSkreech | Ooooer | 07:48 |
| DaSkreech | pretty sexy | 07:48 |
| DaSkreech | We should have this one on by default | 07:48 |
| DaSkreech | Well good night all | 07:49 |
| yuriy | night DaSkreech | 07:50 |
| DaSkreech | yuriy: tried the new fireworks? add some bang to the show | 07:51 |
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| Tonio_ | hey ;) | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: did you commit the guidance fix to svn ? | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: I can prepapre a package | 10:39 |
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| Jucato | Tonio_: hi! just wanted to as if it would be possible to make the ActionList: viewmode_toolbar an actual item under the "Available actions" column? | 10:49 |
| Jucato | because if it has been removed (like when customizing the toolbar), there's no way to get it back (unless you know the exact entry in konq-kubuntu.rc | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: you can! it is in the options of the menubar | 10:52 |
| Jucato | ooh where? | 10:52 |
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| Tonio_ | if you customize the toolbar, you get the button... | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | I don't know exactly where, but I know it's in, since that's the way I configured it for kds defaults | 10:52 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: for example, I right-click on the toolbar -> Configure Toolbar -> put the actionlist item from the Current Actions to Available Actions, it won't show up in Available Actions... at least not on Edgy... | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | ah ! viewmode toolbar ! sorry I was on something else :) | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | I don't think it is possible to add toolbars to those lists, but I'll have a look | 10:56 |
| Jucato | ah so that single button is actually a whole toolbar? | 10:56 |
| Jucato | hmm... interesting... :) | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | which button ? | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | you never talked about a button :) | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | I'm lost sorry... | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | yes, okay | 10:57 |
| Jucato | hm... I thought you were the one that patched Konqueror so that the 3 view mode buttons would be a single one | 10:57 |
| Jucato | :D | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | no that's a button, but not a standard one | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | technically it is a toolbar, since the default is 3 buttons | 10:58 |
| Jucato | ah. it's probably too late for feisty anyway. but thought you'd like to know that once it's gone, it's gone :) | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | I patched to get them merged, but I'd like to get that patch removed.... needs debatting | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | yes I know that's an issue | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | but that's kde defaults issue.... | 10:59 |
| Jucato | ah | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | and no I don't think that's too late, that's not a spec.... that's really hackish, so I'd like to get that removed... | 10:59 |
| Jucato | ah so we're going back to the 3 view mode buttons? | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | I'd like too | 11:01 |
| Jucato | O.o | 11:01 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi there | 11:08 |
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| Riddell | Lure: we have to get rid of konqueror not talking to websites if network manager isn't being used | 12:21 |
| Riddell | it doesn't do anything user friendly, it just has the same error message as if the web server is broken | 12:21 |
| mhb | Riddell: happens only when knetworkmanager is used but no connection found, right? | 12:24 |
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| Riddell | mhb: well, when knetworkmanager is loaded | 12:31 |
| Riddell | but i've decided not to use it because it's not showing the network I know exists | 12:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: that's what I meant. More apps behave like konqueror in this manner | 12:31 |
| Riddell | there's just no advantage to it | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | yay, Riddell is here. | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i tried to test the dist-upgrader, btw. | 12:32 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what happened? | 12:33 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: couldnt connect to the display 0:0, iirc | 12:34 |
| Lure | Riddell: they have same problem in gnome :-( | 12:46 |
| Lure | Riddell: problem is that n-m is not aware of static interfaces | 12:47 |
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| Lure | Riddell: I am testing version of n-m that shows all interfaces, but it has side effects :-( | 12:47 |
| Lure | Riddell: you should talk with seb128 how they plan to address it for gnome | 12:47 |
| Lure | Riddell: re digikam> can we push libkexiv2 source package in Feisty on fast track as it is just code moved out of digikam into separate library? | 12:50 |
| Lure | Riddell: or we need to go standard way (FFe/UVFe for universe, MIR...) | 12:51 |
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| jeroenvrp | wow | 02:25 |
| jeroenvrp | feisty is fast | 02:25 |
| jeroenvrp | even with the new eye-candy | 02:25 |
| jeroenvrp | good work folks | 02:25 |
| jeroenvrp | allthough I don't like all new eye-candy | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | oh? | 02:26 |
| jeroenvrp | Hobbsee: the blue stripe on top of the active tab - the blue scroll bars (I like it to blend with the rest) - the blue columns-headers seems over the top for me - for the rest great | 02:29 |
| jeroenvrp | but all is my opinion | 02:30 |
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| Hobbsee | ah | 02:31 |
| jeroenvrp | huh? | 02:31 |
| jeroenvrp | I had plastik | 02:31 |
| Jucato | oh... | 02:31 |
| jeroenvrp | how can that be changed | 02:31 |
| jeroenvrp | what is the default?! | 02:32 |
| jeroenvrp | Jucato: what is the feisty default style?! | 02:34 |
| Jucato | Polyester | 02:34 |
| jeroenvrp | oh | 02:35 |
| jeroenvrp | than I have the righ tone | 02:35 |
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| toma | sebas: thats a really useless post ! | 03:15 |
| sebas | toma: Right, mine, too :D | 03:16 |
| toma | ;-) | 03:16 |
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| dinosaur-rus | hi | 03:18 |
| dinosaur-rus | does the current character for password boxes have code U+2219 ? | 03:21 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: Hey hey | 03:23 |
| DaSkreech | Blue scroll bars? | 03:24 |
| sebas | Do more people here see flickering when hovering the location bar and there's a URL in it? | 03:24 |
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: if it flickers on my PC, I don't notice that? :P | 03:26 |
| sebas | Why not? | 03:26 |
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| dinosaur-rus | sebas: may be it flickers faster than my monitor's refresh rate? | 03:27 |
| dinosaur-rus | :) | 03:27 |
| sebas | It's gotta be *very* low to not see that then | 03:28 |
| bddebian | Heya | 03:28 |
| sebas | It gets repainted but doesn't seem to be double-buffered though | 03:28 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: ping | 03:29 |
| sebas | Hm, same on Edgy, it doesn't seem to be a regression then | 03:30 |
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: it's very strange if everything except only location bar with URL is double-buffered | 03:30 |
| sebas | Well, Qt3 doesn't double-buffer by default | 03:31 |
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: X Window should double-buffer. else EVERYTHING would flicker | 03:32 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: By what measuring stick is katapult an advanced users tool? | 03:33 |
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| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: because not everyone can use parachute? | 03:34 |
| Jucato | O.o | 03:34 |
| DaSkreech | dinosaur-rus: that's parakhute :) | 03:34 |
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: and almost nobody even knows what's a parakhute :)) | 03:37 |
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| jjesse | DaSkreech: pong | 03:51 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: how goes the book? | 03:51 |
| DaSkreech | Today is the deadline right? | 03:51 |
| jjesse | DaSkreech: good yeah today is the day | 03:51 |
| jjesse | screen shots today | 03:51 |
| DaSkreech | Ok | 03:53 |
| DaSkreech | you got your insert here things cleaned up? | 03:53 |
| dinosaur-rus | who sent CTCP VERSION request to me? | 03:53 |
| Jucato | you can check see who sent the request | 03:54 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: Want to send me the text while you take shotties so I can review quickly? | 03:55 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: my IRC client says "CTCP VERSION reply sent to freenode-connect: ...", but I can't believe that the server is so curious :) | 03:57 |
| Jucato | dinosaur-rus: freenode sends that once in a while, specially during server problems | 03:57 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: ohh.. | 03:58 |
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| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: statistics of IRC clients used on freenode? | 03:59 |
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| DaSkreech | I think 100% of them are connected | 04:00 |
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| dinosaur-rus | what character is used for password boxes? U+2219? | 04:08 |
| _StefanS_ | dinosaur-rus: I would download the source to kdebase, and check that... I honestly don't know. | 04:10 |
| jjesse | DaSkreech: not yet | 04:10 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: Well I can read it without the screenshots :) Parallelization | 04:12 |
| dinosaur-rus | _StefanS_ omg that'd be searching a needle in a haystack :) | 04:12 |
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| _StefanS_ | dinosaur-rus: well, If you find the original article where the first finding was posted, and crosscheck that with the source, I think should easily find it | 04:14 |
| Jucato | dinosaur-rus: you should ask danimo, since it is his patch. | 04:14 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: is that his full nick? | 04:16 |
| dinosaur-rus | _StefanS_ isn't small dot Kubuntu-specific, is it? AFAIK vanilla KDE stays with big circle... | 04:16 |
| Jucato | yes | 04:16 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato thx | 04:16 |
| _StefanS_ | dinosaur-rus: I'm looking at the patches now .. | 04:16 |
| dinosaur-rus | _StefanS_: oh I don't think you should spend your time by doing something exclusively for me :P | 04:18 |
| _StefanS_ | dinosaur-rus: dont worry I wont , I have to do some regular work :) | 04:18 |
| dinosaur-rus | _StefanS_ :) | 04:19 |
| _StefanS_ | dinosaur-rus: couldn't find it at first glance | 04:19 |
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| dinosaur-rus | _StefanS_: well, I just wanted to suggest U+2022 as it's something between small dot and big circle. I guess it should look better. | 04:21 |
| _StefanS_ | dinosaur-rus: I know there has been alot of discussions regarding the size of those dots... you might want to talk to Riddell, or Tonio_ about the decisions made there | 04:22 |
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| === dinosaur-rus pokes Riddel | ||
| === dinosaur-rus pokes Riddell | ||
| _StefanS_ | you should ping him | 04:26 |
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| === dinosaur-rus shoots at Riddell with rubber bullets :) | ||
| === sebas thinks that discussing the size of the bullets if a waste of time. | ||
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: make that configurable? | 04:28 |
| sebas | That's even worse. | 04:28 |
| Jucato | dinosaur-rus: you should only poke once, not twice within a one minute interval | 04:29 |
| Jucato | might also be better if you left a message instead | 04:29 |
| sebas | "Make it configurable" is often the poor reaction to "I'm too dumb to make a sensible default" | 04:29 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: in the first poking I made a typo in his nick | 04:29 |
| sebas | Really, noone wants a configuration dialogue cluttered with this kind of nonsense. | 04:29 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: I'd only want it configurable if I can change them to whatever I want. Not just little blobs | 04:30 |
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: regarding to kubuntu-devel mailing list people don't like big circles nor small dots | 04:31 |
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: that might be nice | 04:31 |
| sebas | Misinterpretation, *some* people don't have better things to do than bikeshedding. | 04:31 |
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: make a poll? | 04:32 |
| sebas | No, make something default and cut the crap. | 04:33 |
| sebas | No more time-wasting on that. | 04:33 |
| sebas | It's plain ridiculous. | 04:33 |
| === DaSkreech agrees with sebas. Its' not a lot of time. | ||
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| DaSkreech | Plus if you are going to make it configurable you'd have to go more whole hoggish which means you still have to come up with a good default. so you are back to here | 04:33 |
| Jucato | what's the big fuss about something you don't actually need to read, and only see for a flash? | 04:36 |
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: so why not to stick on something "not too big and not too small"? | 04:36 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: It's distracting | 04:36 |
| DaSkreech | plus it may go against Kubuntu Code | 04:36 |
| Jucato | which is? | 04:37 |
| sebas | Ignoring common sense is against ... common sense. | 04:37 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: then what was the reason for changing big dot to small one? | 04:37 |
| DaSkreech | People with disabilites should be able to use the system easily (too small is bloody hard to read) while looking pretty too big is garish | 04:37 |
| Jucato | dunno. didn't even know they changed it :D | 04:38 |
| dinosaur-rus | :) | 04:38 |
| === sebas reminds that font size is configurable already. | ||
| dinosaur-rus | sebas: increase font just to get bigger dots? it's even crazier than discussing what's better :P | 04:39 |
| Jucato | the point DaSkreech was making was accessibility. | 04:39 |
| Jucato | and people with those problems would be using bigger fonts anyway | 04:40 |
| sebas | No, that's for visually disabled people. If they can't see those dots, they're unlikely that they can read any letter. | 04:40 |
| DaSkreech | Well when you have small dots and aer trying to count them to see how many letters you have typed already they start to dance in front of your eyes | 04:40 |
| === sebas goes back to work. | ||
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: dancing dots are Kubuntu's easter egg :)) | 04:41 |
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: undocumented feature :)) | 04:42 |
| === dinosaur-rus suggests to stop that useless discussion | ||
| jjesse | for taking screenshots for the chpater, the upgrade manager still shows the release notes mentioning feisty is still alpha, is there a way to get a screenshot of that w/ finial release notes? | 04:45 |
| dinosaur-rus | jjesse: final release'll be in April ;) | 04:47 |
| jjesse | i know, i'm just curiosu if there is a way i can chagne | 04:47 |
| jjesse | soemthign so it doesn't say alpha release or test release | 04:47 |
| dinosaur-rus | jjesse: IIRC the upgrade manager (if you're talking about what is at http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade) is Python script, so it shouldn't be hard | 04:50 |
| dinosaur-rus | to change that message | 04:50 |
| jjesse | dinosaur-rus: yes that's what i'm looking | 04:50 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: Oh can I still send in my recipe? | 04:50 |
| jjesse | DaSkreech: sure | 04:50 |
| === Jucato wonders if it's too late to modify/add Konqueror's Web Shortcuts to include help.ubuntu.com/community searches | ||
| Lure | Jucato: it is never too late if you are a friend of Tonio_ ;-) | 04:54 |
| Jucato | hehe I think I've poked Tonio too many times :D | 04:55 |
| Jucato | Lure: maybe I can apply to be your friend too when I go to -motu and ask dozens of questions hehe :) | 04:55 |
| Lure | Jucato: Tonio_ really likes to do this kind of "final touches" to Kubuntu | 04:56 |
| dinosaur-rus | ohh, is it really necessary to do so many steps to upgrade Edgy to Feisty? I made that in easier way :) | 05:01 |
| DaSkreech | dinosaur-rus: It's one line | 05:01 |
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: I'm talking about steps described at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade | 05:03 |
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| Jucato | dinosaur-rus: those steps are for testing "the new Kubuntu Dist Upgrade tool"... not sure if those will be the same steps when actually upgrading (w/ or w/o the upgrade tool) | 05:09 |
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| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: ah... ok | 05:12 |
| jjesse | DaSkreech: will you get that recipe to my by tonight | 05:12 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: I'll send it now | 05:13 |
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| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: actually they don't worry me as I've upgraded to Feisty when it got to Herd 3 stage :) | 05:14 |
| yuriy | mornin DaSkreech | 05:14 |
| Jucato | dinosaur-rus: ah, you probably missed one of the highlights of Feisty :) | 05:15 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: what exactly? | 05:18 |
| Jucato | the upgrade tool | 05:18 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: hehe, I don't care of it :) | 05:18 |
| DaSkreech | I don't get it. how can you miss that? | 05:19 |
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| jjesse | the upgrade manager you have to add Riddell's repositories in order for it to work | 05:19 |
| DaSkreech | It's not like the majority of people moving to Feisty will use it | 05:21 |
| Riddell | ? | 05:22 |
| Riddell | they will, that's the whole point | 05:22 |
| nixternal | ooh, 1.6.2 is out for KOffice | 05:22 |
| nixternal | hiya jjesse, Riddell, DaSkreech, Jucato, and everyone else watching :) | 05:23 |
| Jucato | hi nixternal!!! | 05:23 |
| DaSkreech | It's in edgy already? | 05:23 |
| yuriy | Riddell: how? | 05:23 |
| Riddell | yuriy: the dist upgrade tool? instructions are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade# | 05:23 |
| Riddell | they're a bit out of date | 05:23 |
| yuriy | by adding the repo or will it be put into edgy when feisty comes out? | 05:24 |
| Riddell | yuriy: it'll be in edgy-updates | 05:24 |
| yuriy | oh nice | 05:24 |
| nixternal | I have 2 annoying bugs I believe with Feisty. 1) sometimes when I type it acts like I am holding down a key and it repeats and 2) KNetworkManager requires me to shutoff my wifi connection prior to logon and then turn it back on immediately after logging in | 05:24 |
| jjesse | hiya nixternal | 05:25 |
| DaSkreech | Can We do anything above Wep for Wireless? | 05:28 |
| Riddell | above wep? | 05:28 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I have 1) all the time | 05:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal: benc also has it, so I'm hoping it'll get fixed | 05:29 |
| jjesse | i have 1 as well | 05:29 |
| jjesse | but i just tought it was my vm | 05:29 |
| DaSkreech | Security wise? WPA ? | 05:30 |
| jdong | NetworkManager does WPA out of the box | 05:31 |
| DaSkreech | ok. Someone was blogging that it doesn't | 05:32 |
| dinosaur-rus | Riddell: we had a stupid "password box character" discussion here, where I suggested U+2022 as a compromiss between small dots and big circles | 05:33 |
| dinosaur-rus | Riddell: I don't want another endless holy war, just said my suggestion/opinion :)) | 05:33 |
| Riddell | I've no idea where that's defined, if it is | 05:33 |
| n8k99 | dinosaur-rus: i think that is in the theme polyester when you switch themesit goes back to * | 05:35 |
| jdong | DaSkreech: it doesn't always work with every card.... | 05:38 |
| jdong | some cards are flakey | 05:38 |
| DaSkreech | jdong: as per driver situation? | 05:38 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: Are we taking kate out of Kubuntu? | 05:38 |
| dinosaur-rus | DaSkreech: why? | 05:39 |
| DaSkreech | They are taking it out of kdebase | 05:39 |
| jjesse | what are they using instead? | 05:39 |
| DaSkreech | kwrite | 05:39 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: no we're not | 05:40 |
| DaSkreech | Oh by what measure is katapult an application for advanced users? | 05:40 |
| Riddell | people have to know the application names and be prepared to type them | 05:41 |
| Riddell | it's not on the same level as autoconf, just a step above the normal application menu | 05:41 |
| DaSkreech | And that's more difficult than knowing where it is in the menu? | 05:41 |
| Riddell | yes it is | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | How? | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | all I have to know is the name of the app | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | in some cases not even that | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | I just have to know word processor | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | Or web browser | 05:42 |
| DaSkreech | You can't honestly think that typing digikam is harder than hunting around for it in Multimedia | 05:44 |
| n8k99 | DaSkreech: it not teh typing, its teh remebering when there are several apps that do the same thing | 05:47 |
| DaSkreech | n8k99: I'm not arguing that katapult is replacing the kmenu I'm saying it's easier to use once you know the name of the application. Easier even than the k-menu | 05:51 |
| DaSkreech | and is more useful to newbies | 05:52 |
| n8k99 | DaSkreech: i don't disagree with you | 05:52 |
| DaSkreech | It's the same reason why in windowsXP once you have found an application it sticks to the menu because it's easier than going through the menu | 05:52 |
| n8k99 | and wish that it had some more functionality like Quicksilver does | 05:52 |
| DaSkreech | That's being worked on :) | 05:53 |
| Jucato | n8k99: it has lots of plugins now... and more are coming :) | 05:53 |
| n8k99 | great! | 05:53 |
| DaSkreech | n8k99: What quicksilver thing do you miss as a matter of polling | 05:54 |
| n8k99 | append text | 05:54 |
| DaSkreech | ah that would be a plugin | 05:54 |
| n8k99 | it'd be really great if it ould append text into knotes | 05:54 |
| DaSkreech | I'd love if it could show text floating on the screen but that's really a KDE issue | 05:54 |
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| n8k99 | could | 05:55 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I'll make a note of that | 05:56 |
| Jucato | knotes? baskets!! :D | 05:56 |
| Jucato | j/k | 05:56 |
| DaSkreech | well in reality it would be sweet if most kapps could drop some functionality if they wanted into katapult | 05:57 |
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| wahle | hey, anyone have any problems with the updates today removing kubuntu-desktop and apt-updater, etc etc? | 05:59 |
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| Riddell | wahle: no, what updated? | 06:00 |
| wahle | dunno | 06:01 |
| blackmoon | hi, i've found a non critical bug (but i don't know if this can be callled bug) in amd64 dvd. the kubuntu logo at startup (in live mode) is flat and 8-bit color, and not like the jelly bright on 32-bit version... i've thested on diferent amd64 machines but with same result... | 06:01 |
| === apokryphos gives Riddell a wave 8) | ||
| wahle | did an update today and it removed a bunch of packages including kubuntu-desktop | 06:01 |
| wahle | then i didn't have the graphical installer anymore (i forgot what it is called) and so i went and installed aptitude and tried to install kubuntu-desktop and it gives me a dependency error that says . . . | 06:02 |
| wahle | adept-* depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6-3.52 [UNAVAILABLE] | 06:03 |
| Riddell | wahle: edgy or feisty? | 06:04 |
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| Riddell | hola apokryphos | 06:04 |
| Riddell | blackmoon: that's deliberate | 06:04 |
| wahle | Riddell: feisty | 06:05 |
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| wahle | Riddell: any ideas? | 06:07 |
| yuriy_ | k-d-s still not overwriting kdmrc :( | 06:11 |
| Riddell | wahle: I confirm, maybe we need to recompile adept | 06:12 |
| Riddell | yuriy_: why should it? | 06:12 |
| yuriy_ | Riddell: the kubuntu theme config was moved into k-d-s instead of a patch to kdm, but since then the theme hasn't been showing up | 06:13 |
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| wahle | Riddell: so just wait a few days and it should be fixed? | 06:18 |
| wahle | Riddell: hopefully :) | 06:18 |
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| DaSkreech | hail the manchicken | 06:21 |
| manchicken | Damn right hail the manchicken :P | 06:22 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Anything else you need into adept before feature-freeze? | 06:22 |
| Riddell | manchicken: work out why it's being uninstalled today with a dist-upgrade | 06:23 |
| DaSkreech | It's too good to hang out with the whippersnappers now | 06:23 |
| manchicken | heh | 06:24 |
| manchicken | Is it really? | 06:24 |
| Riddell | probably there's been a new version of apt library that it needs compiled against | 06:24 |
| blackmoon | i've build a custom application, but if i run this app with kdesu i can't see the text label... but if i run it with kdesu from root shell (sudo -s; kdesu my-app) it's all ok... | 06:24 |
| manchicken | Nice. | 06:25 |
| blackmoon | a kdesu bug? someone else said that work fine on fedora core 6 | 06:26 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: What do you know about debtags? | 06:26 |
| manchicken | Nopers. | 06:26 |
| Riddell | blackmoon: which text label? can you see other widgets with text? | 06:27 |
| blackmoon | Riddell: labels on button, and so on... the only string that i can see is the one in the window title.... | 06:29 |
| rouzic | Hi all | 06:29 |
| Riddell | blackmoon: try moving /root/.kde out the way | 06:30 |
| nixternal | Well, good old Dell is going to start selling desktops with Linux pre-installed | 06:31 |
| nixternal | right now they are working on a Novell deal, so lets hope there will be an Ubuntu/Kubuntu deal in there as well :) | 06:31 |
| blackmoon | Riddell: nothing to do, same result :( | 06:32 |
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| DaSkreech | nixternal: link | 06:44 |
| nixternal | http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&l=en&s=gen | 06:45 |
| blackmoon | Riddell: any other ideas? | 06:55 |
| Riddell | blackmoon: not really I'm afraid | 06:58 |
| nixternal | Riddell: you notice that wiki.kubuntu.org is doing the license stuff again? | 07:00 |
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| Riddell | what stuff? | 07:00 |
| nixternal | where it pops up the ssl stuff for you to select OK to accept | 07:01 |
| nixternal | OK, there has got to be more than the ff user-agent for Herd 5 | 07:02 |
| Riddell | works fine for me | 07:02 |
| nixternal | it popped up for me | 07:02 |
| nixternal | works fine in Konqi, but it did it in FF, I know it did | 07:03 |
| yuriy | what do you guys think? :D http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080237.0 | 07:05 |
| blackmoon | Riddell: i'll try to see if i can find a solution (and then i'll post the result)... but i don't know... now i must go... i'll come back later... | 07:10 |
| DaSkreech | In a bash script with the line if (NR == 1) hostname = $1; what's the NR for? | 07:12 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Wh00t!! | 07:14 |
| nixternal | wh00t wh4t? | 07:14 |
| DaSkreech | D33l not being a leetist idiot | 07:18 |
| DaSkreech | If you disagree to any EULA on a dell machine it uninstalls the application | 07:18 |
| nixternal | DaSkreech: NR == Record Number | 07:18 |
| nixternal | i.e., Linux number I believe | 07:19 |
| nixternal | s/Linux/Line | 07:19 |
| DaSkreech | Number of what? | 07:19 |
| DaSkreech | Ah | 07:19 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: ping | 07:23 |
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| manchicken | ping | 07:30 |
| manchicken | pong* | 07:30 |
| MrWGW | ahh manchicken | 07:31 |
| MrWGW | and how is my favorite pro RMS extremist doing this morning? | 07:31 |
| MrWGW | :-P | 07:31 |
| DaSkreech | http://xkcd.com/c225.html | 07:32 |
| manchicken | MrWGW: Those are big words for trolling ^_^ | 07:32 |
| MrWGW | :) | 07:32 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: can you confirm something for me in adept? | 07:33 |
| === MrWGW is a troll with a heart of gold | ||
| MrWGW | :-P | 07:33 |
| MrWGW | and one who acutely wants to contribute | 07:33 |
| manchicken | Probably not right now. | 07:33 |
| manchicken | I presume you're talking Feisty? | 07:33 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: In that case read the link above :) | 07:33 |
| MrWGW | I'm just wishing Kwwii would materialize so I can start planning, this week I want to start work on some artwork | 07:34 |
| manchicken | I'm on Edgy right now on my work machine. | 07:34 |
| MrWGW | I've pretty much wrapped up with PC BSD, my design work got approved, so I just have to find the time to send the files to the project lead so he can put them into 1.4 | 07:34 |
| manchicken | I read it. It's pretty funny. | 07:34 |
| manchicken | Although I would think that RMS would first correct them when they used the phrase "open source." | 07:35 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: Even better :) | 07:35 |
| MrWGW | ROFL | 07:36 |
| MrWGW | that was funny | 07:36 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: lookit gnat-4.1-doc and under details -> Additional information tell me what's the first value there? | 07:36 |
| manchicken | On edgy? | 07:36 |
| DaSkreech | si | 07:38 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm the feisty upgrade seems a bit crashy | 07:38 |
| manchicken | Yep. | 07:39 |
| manchicken | You got it crashing on feisty when you click details in adept_updater? | 07:39 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: Yeah ::)) | 07:39 |
| manchicken | Yup. | 07:39 |
| manchicken | If you wanted to triage that I | 07:39 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: what's it say in edgy? | 07:39 |
| manchicken | 'd be happy to fix it. | 07:40 |
| manchicken | Documentation for the GNU Ada compiler in info format. | 07:40 |
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| DaSkreech | -> additiona information | 07:41 |
| DaSkreech | The tabs at the bottom | 07:41 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: ^^^ | 07:44 |
| manchicken | No tags. Is that what you're looking for? | 07:44 |
| DaSkreech | really? | 07:45 |
| DaSkreech | I have purpose of application is Finance | 07:45 |
| manchicken | Naw, I don't see that. | 07:45 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm | 07:45 |
| DaSkreech | I wonder if my tags aer just messed up | 07:45 |
| manchicken | http://img11.imagepile.net/view.php?file=91463updater2.png | 07:48 |
| manchicken | http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/91463updater2.png <--better | 07:48 |
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| Riddell | toma: we didn't meet at fosdem :( | 07:52 |
| toma | Riddell: i know... | 07:52 |
| toma | i read you where at the kde4 talk, i left to the other building just before the start | 07:56 |
| DaSkreech | http://img11.imagepile.net/view.php?file=45568snapshot4.png | 07:57 |
| DaSkreech | http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/45568snapshot4.png | 07:57 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: you made it back home ok? | 08:29 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: see? ^^^ | 08:34 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: yes thanks | 08:35 |
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| mhb | good evening | 08:43 |
| DaSkreech | evening | 08:45 |
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| LaserJock | kind OT question: if I install kde4* is that enough to build KDE4 apps from svn? | 09:00 |
| DaSkreech | LaserJock: Yeah I think you can build them with a lot less but that's a good way to go | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | how much of KDE4 does Feisty have? I only see kdebase and kdelibs? | 09:04 |
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| DaSkreech | It doesn't have any | 09:05 |
| DaSkreech | it has kuldge | 09:05 |
| DaSkreech | but that's not installed by default | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | how can it be installed? | 09:06 |
| DaSkreech | !kde4 | 09:07 |
| ubotu | For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org | 09:07 |
| DaSkreech | Blast :) | 09:07 |
| DaSkreech | check kubutnu.org | 09:07 |
| DaSkreech | It should have instructions | 09:07 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: only libs and base so far, I'll be doing more soon | 09:08 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: yes, they are what you need for compiling kde 4 stuff in svn. note that svn is a moving target and there may well be incompatible changes to libs soon so you would need to compile that yourself too before long | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | I'm just wanting to compile kalzium from svn | 09:13 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: should be fine | 09:14 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: What are the hopes for KDE4 for Grunting Giraffe? | 09:14 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: hard to say, it almost certainly won't be the default, may well still not be much that's usable to normal people | 09:14 |
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| mhb | is the name set yet? | 09:18 |
| DaSkreech | mhb: take a guess :) | 09:19 |
| === DaSkreech mourns the prospect of one year before kde4 | ||
| mhb | DaSkreech: you can compile it overnight, you know .o) | 09:19 |
| DaSkreech | Well that's one year post Vista | 09:20 |
| DaSkreech | That's a lot of settling into ways | 09:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: apt libs have changed abi - will you upload adept/debtags for rebuild? | 09:21 |
| DaSkreech | That's enough for people to be looking at KDE4 vs Vienna instead of Vista | 09:21 |
| DaSkreech | That's not helping the Bug 1 situation | 09:22 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 09:22 |
| mhb | DaSkreech: sounds like a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic for me .o) | 09:23 |
| Riddell | Lure: yep, waiting on current compile to finish so I can do a check compile | 09:23 |
| Lure | Riddell: thanks | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | mhb: What is? the schedule for kubuntu? | 09:29 |
| Riddell | Vienna? | 09:30 |
| Lure | Riddell: can we speed up inclusion of libkexiv2 package (as the code was cut out of digikam which is in main) | 09:32 |
| Lure | Riddell: or we need to get FFe/UVFe for universe first and then ask for MIR? | 09:32 |
| Riddell | Lure: I don't think it'll need the beurocracy | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | Vienna is Vista+1 | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | as per Microsoft's naming scheme | 09:33 |
| Riddell | Lure: but it'll need to wait on the digikam release, they won't put it in until something depends on it | 09:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, digikam final is on next weekend, so we need to push it next week | 09:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: test packages are available for edgy/feisty by allee | 09:34 |
| Riddell | so hopefully we can get it in for herd 5 | 09:35 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: If jjesse comes back can you just remind him to send me the document? | 09:45 |
| nixternal | sure, but I am getting ready to head to the uni for a couple of hours | 09:46 |
| nixternal | I should be back in about 3 hours I am thinking | 09:46 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 09:46 |
| DaSkreech | fine | 09:46 |
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| _StefanS_ | manchicken: ping ? | 09:48 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: did the package reach you yet?+ | 09:49 |
| manchicken | Yeah. | 09:49 |
| manchicken | I can't get that DVB thing to work. | 09:49 |
| manchicken | I need to pick up a cheap SATA controller. | 09:49 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: you should use the latest video4linux if I remember correctly. Then there's a patch for the source to support that specific (newer) chip | 09:50 |
| manchicken | It seems like there's a firmware issue. | 09:50 |
| manchicken | I'll have to talk to you about it later, too. | 09:50 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: alright | 09:50 |
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| manchicken | Meetings... :S | 09:50 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: hope you can put all the stuff to good use ;) - see you | 09:51 |
| manchicken | Yeah. | 09:51 |
| manchicken | Once I get an SATA controller that drive will be nice. | 09:51 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: yes I think so.. its pretty fast also. | 09:51 |
| manchicken | It'll make an excellent build archive drive ^_ | 09:51 |
| manchicken | ^ | 09:52 |
| _StefanS_ | manchicken: yep.. I have a 500gb version of that one aswell, and it performs very nice | 09:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: will that kde4 snapshot work for feisty ? or is it edgy only ? | 09:53 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: the packages are in feisty, but not yet compiled, give it a few hours | 09:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: alright great | 09:54 |
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| neversfelde | Riddell: ping | 10:03 |
| Riddell | hi neversfelde | 10:05 |
| neversfelde | hello | 10:05 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: did you get our text for kubuntu.org/support? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | oh yes, it's somewhere in my e-mails, sorry for not acting on it | 10:05 |
| neversfelde | no Problem, just wanted to know if it is okay | 10:06 |
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| Riddell | neversfelde: support.php updated | 10:47 |
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| neversfelde | Riddell: thx | 10:48 |
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| neversfelde | Riddell: Mailingliste: - die deutschsprachige Mailingliste zu finden. | 10:54 |
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| neversfelde | Riddell: better "Mailingliste: - hier ist die deutschsprachige Mailingliste zu finden". | 10:54 |
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| yuriy | ping Lure | 11:24 |
| Lure | yuriy: hi | 11:25 |
| yuriy | Lure: could you upload wineconfig with software-properties fixed? (see bug 88057) | 11:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 88057 in kde-guidance "Kubuntu Feisty Herd4; kde-systemsettings; Windows applications does not install wine" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88057 | 11:26 |
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| Lure | yuriy: I do not have upload rights, but I recall Tonio_ mentioned to plan an upload soon | 11:26 |
| yuriy | Lure: oh ok i thought you did it last time | 11:26 |
| Lure | yuriy: do not recall which bugfix he was waitng | 11:26 |
| Lure | yuriy: I just pushed on Tonio_ ;-) | 11:27 |
| yuriy | i think he was waiting for an actual version of guidance | 11:27 |
| Lure | yuriy: that would be even better. We need to talk with _Sime_ and sebas about this | 11:28 |
| _Sime_ | whats up? | 11:28 |
| Lure | yuriy: Feisty beta is around the corner and having official version would be nicer | 11:28 |
| Lure | _Sime_: any plans to release new guidance version from trunk (0.7.1 or 0.8.0)? | 11:29 |
| _Sime_ | Lure: there are plans for a 0.7.1 that could be packaged for edgy. | 11:30 |
| Lure | _Sime_: not sure if somebody will care to make SRU (it takes long time) | 11:30 |
| _Sime_ | Lure: I just want to fix one more bug on 0.7.1 first, and then have it packaged and tested, and then pushed out to edgy. | 11:30 |
| _Sime_ | Lure: and I can fix up a real 0.8 soon if needed. | 11:31 |
| yuriy | i need to fix a bug too actually. shoulda done it over break :( | 11:31 |
| Lure | _Sime_: maybe we should have something before Feisty beta. May need to ask Riddell what makes more sense | 11:32 |
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| yuriy | the 22nd.. good got a couple weekends in there to fix it | 11:33 |
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| vprints | hey | 12:07 |
| vprints | anybody from baltic region or sweden or finland? | 12:07 |
| Riddell | vprints: Tm_T is, why do you ask? | 12:07 |
| vprints | kopete problems with special letters :D | 12:09 |
| vprints | 12:09 | |
| Riddell | unlikely to be specific to one language | 12:10 |
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| vprints | i didnt think so :) | 12:10 |
| vprints | didn't | 12:11 |
| vprints | baltic region = 3 languages | 12:11 |
| vprints | + swedish + finnish | 12:11 |
| vprints | :) | 12:11 |
| vprints | have you heard from somewhere that special letters justdissapear? | 12:12 |
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