[12:13] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: could be any number of things, plugins, extensions... is it a vanilla version of FF?
[12:14] <gan|y|med> surgy:  not anymore. it is a nb. i cannot get it under 55C though thi s used to be possible with dapper
[12:14] <Ace2016> are you brave enough to compile a cvs version of firefox o_0
[12:14] <orient2000> kicker is not starting up
[12:14] <gan|y|med> surgy: i am not registered
[12:14] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: do you have flash install? that's my first guess
[12:14] <surgy> gan|y|med join the off opic channel
[12:15] <Ace2016> orient2000: check the options in kcontrol > desktop > panels
[12:15] <rfschmid> I'm trying to get BasKet 1.0 working under Ubuntu Edgy (not kubuntu), but whenever I run it it tells me it cannot create folders for the new basket, unless I run it with gksudo, in which case it works.
[12:15] <gan|y|med> surgy: why would i? i have a technical problem!
[12:15] <jott_> vbgunz: kdevelop provides a full-fledged ide ...designer is just for setting up widgets and some very basic editor for the source..
[12:15] <n8k99> orient2000: try alt+f2 kicker
[12:15] <surgy> gan|y|med: your system temperature has nothing to do with kubnutu
[12:15] <jott_> vbgunz: you may have a look at eric if you are into python
[12:16] <orient2000> kicker is not starting from alt-f2 tryed few times.
[12:16] <n8k99> how about from konsole?
[12:16] <vbgunz> jott_: ok, I'll keep it in mind then. truth is, I prefer a really light syntax editor. eric is too bulky. I will try them again if I can make something happen with qtd though. thanks :)
[12:16] <n8k99> which version of kubuntu  orient2000
[12:16] <gan|y|med> surgy: listen. pls do not judge things that you cannot judge. you don't know my problem. i am not in the mood to justify why i think it IS a problem specific to edgy. so pls, if you do not wanna help, don't say anything
[12:17] <orient2000> 6.06
[12:17] <hellcattrav> redworm: i think so, i have kde, but installed firefox, then installed ubuntu-desktop but it wasn't working when I installed it by itself
[12:17] <jott> vbgunz: actually i thought of eric as it integrates the qt designer too ...but stick with vi or what ever you like ;)
[12:17] <orient2000> I got alt-f2 kcontrol runing, maybe it will do
[12:17] <vbgunz> roger dodger :)
[12:18] <surgy> gan|y|med: ok i will do that, but do not tell me that kubuntu raised your system temperature..... thats  rediculas.
[12:18] <Ace2016> orient2000: but check what kicker gives in konsole because it may not be starting because of an error of being hidden because of the config
[12:18] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: does about:plugins say anythign about flash in it?
[12:19] <vbgunz> surgy: please stop being the #channel nazi. not everything is exactly offtopic
[12:19] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: type about:plugins into the url bar in FF
[12:19] <gan|y|med> surgy: i DID NOT say this! and pls DO NOT talk to me anymore. your reaction is ridiculous
[12:19] <MadMatt> how do I set kubuntu up to connect to wireless at startup
[12:19] <hellcattrav> perhaps
[12:19] <vbgunz> gan|y|med: no, it's spelled rediculas. get it right
[12:19] <hellcattrav> let me see
[12:19] <surgy> vbgunz: agreed i will stop
[12:20] <vbgunz> surgy: all is well, no broken bones :)
[12:20] <surgy> vbgunz: thnx
[12:20] <gan|y|med> surgy: which means what?
[12:21] <orient2000> It says in kinsole: kicker is already runing but I do not see any program kicker
[12:22] <Ace2016> orient2000: then go into kcontrol
[12:22] <Ace2016> its probably the config, you may have set it to hide
[12:23] <gan|y|med> surgy: four dictionaries and not one entry. pls just don't talk to me anymore. thx
[12:23] <hellcattrav> redworm: i see a black header that says shockwave flash
[12:23] <sebastian_> holas
[12:23] <orient2000> I got it by alt-f2 kcontrol and then desktop and panels thanks a lot.
[12:23] <gan|y|med> so has anybody heard about xorg causing a lot of cpu usage (sometime 100% and it won't go down again, though that might be due ti ati drivers)??
[12:24] <sebastian_> aguien habala espaol
[12:24] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: what's the version number?
[12:24] <premier_> I disable session managment so my computer would load faster, but now certian programs (like katapult and knetworkmanager) wont load automatically.  How do I fix that?
[12:24] <sebastian_> hoooooooooooooooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:24] <Ace2016> Hi all
[12:25] <hellcattrav> redworm version of shockwave flash?
[12:25] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: yes
[12:25] <premier_> !es
[12:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:25] <premier_> !sessions
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Ace2016> is there an option to ALWAYS install dev packages (if available), even if i just do apt-get install inkscape or something, because i'm sick to death of running about trying to figure out why something is not compiling
[12:27] <C> I have hdc2 mounted as rw in /media/hdc2
[12:27] <C> but when I try to chmod it to 777 permissions
[12:27] <C> it won't change
[12:27] <C> and it won't let anyone but root write to the drive
[12:27] <Xerroz> anyone know why dmesg outputs [    0.000000]   before the message?
[12:27] <hellcattrav> redworm: i se file name: libflashplayer.so  shockwave flash 7.0 r61
[12:27] <orient2000> There is a program in windows which disables counting of pages on inkjet. Is there something like that for linux?
[12:27] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: you might want to try to update to version 9
[12:28] <hellcattrav> ok
[12:28] <hellcattrav> redworm: how would i update to v 9?
[12:28] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: lemme see if i can find something on google for you
[12:29] <premier_> orient2000: why would an inkjet count pages?  Have you tried printing under linux?
[12:30] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: here's the download and instructions: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape4
[12:30] <RedWorm> heinkel_111: get the tar.gz version (sorry for the long url guys)
[12:31] <orient2000> Not yet. I am using laser for now but I have inkjet too. Every inkjet is counting like 2000 pages and saying that is empty while in reality is not. There is chip in inkjet counting pages.
[12:32] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: i had a number of problems w/ flash 7, 9 seems much more stable
[12:32] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: alternatively you could disable flash all together if you prefer
[12:33] <Ace2016> what kind of person comes up with a system like counting pages for figuring out if its out of ink or not, if its out of ink the person wouldn't be stupid enough not to notice it and replace it, geez
[12:33] <hellcattrav> Redworm: could you tell me how i could that, so if the upgrades doesn't work i can disable it?
[12:33] <n8k99> Ace2016: i think that would be hardware engineers
[12:34] <n8k99> Ace2016: who work for a company that makes more money selling refills for the machines
[12:34] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: just a sec
[12:35] <hellcattrav> redworm
[12:35] <hellcattrav> ok
[12:35] <orient2000> That is the way of making money on ink. After counting to 2000 printer will not print anymore even ink is there.
[12:35] <BluesKaj> hellcattrav, i think your problem is that you installed FF before KDE... remove completely and reinstall FF
[12:35] <Ace2016> orient2000: what kind of printer is it?
[12:35] <hellcattrav> ok
[12:35] <hellcattrav> blueskaj: how would i do that
[12:35] <Ace2016> orient2000: can't you take the cartridge out of put it back in?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hellcattrav, try RedWorm's idea first
[12:36] <orient2000> chip has a memory and count is 2000 and you can not reset it. reset catridge cost 20+$
[12:37] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: well i'm sure there is a better way to remove it... but you could simple delete the plugin resources in your mozilla plugin dir
[12:38] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: if you installed w/ a deb package or using apt, use synaptic to remove it
[12:38] <orient2000> I am not sure about Linux behavior with inkjet.
[12:39] <Ace2016> and the maker everyone should avoid is...?
[12:39] <Ace2016> um... well you could just... you know... do it in windows
[12:39] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: your mozilla plugins are in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or maybe ~/.mozilla/firefox/(profile)/plugins
[12:40] <hellcattrav> Redworm: ok, and i get to this by?
[12:40] <hellcattrav> how do i get to the root folder?
[12:40] <Ace2016> kdesu konqueror
[12:42] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: did you install as a deb package? using apt or synaptic?
[12:42] <hellcattrav> i think apt
[12:42] <hellcattrav> apt-get, or i used aptitude, i try aptitude, but i think FF was when i still used apt-get, I'm not sure
[12:42] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: open a terminal, type aptitude search flash
[12:43] <Xerroz> how can i build an ubuntu base with full debugging symbols?
[12:43] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: if it has an "i" next to the package it's installed
[12:47] <smoze> i think i broke my gl driver
[12:47] <smoze> how can i fix this?
[12:47] <hellcattrav> redworm: opening terminal now..trying to do several things at once
[12:48] <hellcattrav> redworm, i got a return, what am i llooking for here?
[12:49] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: by a return do you mean no search results were found?
[12:49] <hellcattrav> redworm: negative, its a bunch of stuff with p infront of it
[12:49] <hellcattrav> p flashplayer -mozilla   - macromedia flash player
[12:49] <hellcattrav> and lots of stuff
[12:50] <RedWorm> hellcattrav none of them have an "i" next to them?
[12:51] <hellcattrav> nope
[12:51] <MadMatt> how do I connect to wireless at startup?
[12:51] <hellcattrav> !paste
[12:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:51] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: k then, just remove them manually
[12:51] <smoze> no idea huh?
[12:51] <MadMatt> how do I connect to wireless at startup everytime?
[12:52] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[12:52] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: there will likely be two files there that say flash or shockwave
[12:52] <hellcattrav> redworm: this is what i got when i typed aptitude search flash http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7581/
[12:53] <hellcattrav> redworm: what does cd mean?
[12:53] <RedWorm> hellcattrav, sorry, type that into a terminal
[12:53] <MadMatt> can anyone help me out with wireless
[12:54] <hellcattrav> ok
[12:54] <hellcattrav> will do
[12:54] <RedWorm> MadMatt: try using network-manager-kde package
[12:55] <MadMatt> ok
[12:55] <RedWorm> MadMatt: it'll give you a little systray icon to easily let you connect
[12:55] <Cainus> hey.. can anyone tell me how to run "firestarter"?  I don't see it under the kmenu, and from the console I keep getting a "GTK-warning **: cannot open display" ....
[12:55] <RedWorm> MadMatt: you might have to restart after install, and add the applet to your taskbar
[12:56] <MadMatt> where do I get the network-manager-kde package?
[12:56] <RedWorm> MadMatt open up synaptic and use the search button
[12:56] <MadMatt> I just want it to be connected when I turn my computer on
[12:57] <hellcattrav> redworm: i typed it and hit enter, but al; ot dod was add a dollar sign to it
[12:57] <visik7> anyone got linux deleted by vista ?
[12:57] <RedWorm> hellcattrav
[12:57] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: now type ls -l
[12:58] <osh> visik7: never even seen vista. I hear it's sort of like osx.
[12:58] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: and look for two filenames that resemble flash or shockwave
[12:58] <visik7> vista screwed up my ext3 home
[12:59] <ssmasud> is iostream.h obsolete in gcc 4.0.3 now??
[12:59] <hellcattrav> oh
[12:59] <hellcattrav> wait do i need to type in ls -l after plugins, or hit enter after plugins?
[01:00] <smoze> i've heard that windows does destroy other os's when installed after them
[01:00] <MadMatt> what's that icon look like RedWorm?
[01:01] <RedWorm> hellcattrav type this w/o quotes: "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins;ls -l"
[01:01] <RedWorm> MadMatt: icon where?
[01:02] <Cainus> hey...anyone know if you can run firestarter in KDE?  doesn't want to work for me...
[01:03] <BeefotronX> I need help connecting to my camera:
[01:04] <jordo23> If I want to play streamed videos that open in pop-up windows through Konq, do I have to install any additional plugins?  I think I do, just need to know  which ones.....
[01:05] <ssmasud> anyone fimiliar with C++ over here??
[01:06] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: here this is a better idea
[01:06] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: install the Flashblock extension in FF
[01:07] <RedWorm> hellcattrav: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
[01:08] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:09] <Ace2016> can someone help me with this error, i installed the new versions from cvs to /opt/XGL/  using --preifx=/opt/XGL instead of --prefix=/usr
[01:09] <Ace2016> Package libsvg was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libsvg.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'libsvg' found
[01:10] <Ace2016> how do i add /opt/XGL into pkg-config?
[01:10] <Ace2016> is pkgconfig an app or a text file?
[01:13] <hellcattrav> redworm: which do i want, firefox 1.5 to 3.0a?, the left of the two green boxes?
[01:14] <bonbonthejon> ping yaccin
[01:14] <yaccin> pong
[01:14] <yaccin> ^^
[01:15] <veganri> hellow, how does one uninstall ubuntu so windows starts normally again
[01:15] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: I tried beryl, it tries to load, kills kwin, then it finishes, but all my windows start turning white
[01:15] <smoze> does anyone know anything about glx?
[01:15] <yaccin> bonbonthejon: hmm steange
[01:15] <Ace2016> bonbonthejon: are you using xgl?
[01:15] <yaccin> smoze: ati or nvidia?
[01:15] <smoze> nvidia
[01:15] <bonbonthejon> Ace2016: i think aiglx
[01:15] <jpiccolo> is there any way else i can get automatrix
[01:16] <bonbonthejon> Ace2016: why?
[01:16] <Ace2016> that happened to me with xgl and i had to press alt+f2, then do killall beryl-manager, then do beryl-xgl --use-copy just to see something on the screen again
[01:16] <Ace2016> i had a white screen
[01:16] <smoze> it just stopped working with ni apparent reason...
[01:16] <yaccin> smoze: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:16] <yaccin> or nvidia-legacy
[01:17] <yaccin> oh
[01:17] <yaccin> hmm
[01:17] <smoze> the driver should be up to date
[01:18] <smoze> it worked fine until now
[01:18] <Ace2016> i had a similar problem
[01:19] <smoze> is there any easy solution?
[01:19] <Ace2016> everything was working fine and bam, i get a black screen whenever beryl tries xgl or nvidia as the rendering
[01:19] <Ace2016> i had to use beryl-xgl --use-copy which felt slow as if it was software rendered and i hated it
[01:20] <Ace2016> now i have to use xorg as my xserver
[01:20] <Ace2016> but xgl is being compiled from cvs so that might just get me my hardware acceleration
[01:23] <smoze> ok, beryl loads itself to the tray but it wont start
[01:23] <xu_robin> is there a reason i'm in the #kubuntu channel automatically?.. is there a xubuntu channel?
[01:24] <BluesKaj> !xubuntu
[01:24] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:24] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, how to install ubuntu desktop on kubuntu? :)   (gnome on kde based)
[01:25] <infocrash> smoze type beryl on a console
[01:25] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu IS ubuntu with kde instead of gnome
[01:26] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[01:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[01:27] <kalagio> how can i check if i have more recent kernel packages for my system kubuntu?
[01:27] <lu-bao> BluesKaj, right :)
[01:27] <smoze> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:27] <smoze> beryl: Root visual is not a GL visual
[01:27] <smoze> beryl: Failed to manage screen: 0
[01:27] <smoze> beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[01:29] <smoze> could the driver be broken?
[01:31] <infocrash> maybe your nvidia is not working right
[01:32] <smoze> you mean my card could be broken?
[01:33] <lovloss> lalala
[01:34] <infocrash> no your drivers
[01:34] <infocrash> maybe it installed the wrong drivers
[01:34] <Ace2016> what does dmx and kdrive do?
[01:34] <Ace2016> its an option for xorg but i don't know what they are
[01:39] <luis_> hola necesito la iso de kubuntu para instalarla en el trabajo, ahi no tengo internet como actualizd los paquetes despues
[01:41] <ghetek> hey guys, i just installed kubuntu (loving it) how do i stop all the popups asking for the password?
[01:41] <lovloss> ghetek: i dont think you should
[01:41] <lovloss> ghetek: I dont even know if you can... thats protection
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[01:42] <QUINTIX256> ...
[01:43] <soulrider> does anyone know of a command line msn and AIM client?
[01:43] <soulrider> QUINTIX256: we can read your emssages :P
[01:43] <skarface> I use bitlbee with irssi...
[01:43] <soulrider> ghetek: you dont
[01:43] <soulrider> ghetek: its all secutiry
[01:43] <QUINTIX256> (random comment: it is all a lack of trust)
[01:43] <ghetek> ... but they even pop up when i go to change the wireless network
[01:44] <soulrider> ghetek: maybe you should read about permissions and understand why you get prompted for them
[01:44] <lovloss> ghetek: its a good thing :)
[01:44] <archangel_> hey where can I change the K menu button to my own graphic?
[01:45] <ghetek> ok... second question i have a razer diamondback mouse and the sensitivity is killing me, i cant use my redice sensitivity button that used to work in windows
[01:45] <ghetek> ideas?
[01:45] <soulrider> archangel_: maybe change the icon file ?
[01:45] <soulrider> ghetek: no idea.. maybe search the forums ?
[01:46] <felipe___> hola
[01:46] <archangel_> yeah, but I cant get to the option to do so
[01:46] <soulrider> hola felipe___
[01:46] <felipe___> alguien puede ayudarme soy nuevo en esto y necesito saber como instalar programas en kubuntu
[01:46] <soulrider> archangel_: what i meant was replace the icon, the actual file
[01:46] <soulrider> !es | felipe___
[01:46] <ubotu> felipe___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:46] <ghetek> soulrider: ... thanks, isnt this the "KUBUNTU SUPPORT CHANNEL"?
[01:46] <felipe___> alguien habla espaol
[01:47] <soulrider> ghetek: yes, it is, but i really have no idea, maybe someone knows int he forums
[01:47] <ghetek> i know its jus tok to not respond if you dont know
[01:47] <ghetek> i appreciate the help though
[01:58] <Kite_DH> anbody confident with wine?
[01:59] <yaccin> << a little
[02:00] <Kite_DH> where can i finde that 32 folder
[02:00] <Kite_DH> or 23..whatever
[02:00] <ghetek> kite
[02:00] <ghetek> go to winehq
[02:00] <Kite_DH> ok
[02:00] <ghetek> #winehq
[02:01] <yaccin> ~/.wine/
[02:01] <pirothezero> what does alt tab in a terminal do when it says display all x possibilities?
[02:02] <pirothezero> what does it mean*
[02:02] <ghetek> i have a shell account with my hosting company, how do i mount my online webspace as a drive in kubuntu?
[02:02] <voidmage> In konqueror, to go remote:/ and run "add a network folder"
[02:02] <voidmage> the questions should be self explanatory
[02:03] <gumby_> ok.. just installed ubuntu 6.10 from linux format dvd and I only have 800x600 resolution max available, where do I change this?
[02:03] <voidmage> gumby: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:03] <voidmage> there will be a screen where you can select resolutions you want
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !resolution
[02:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:04] <ghetek> voidmage: thanks found it
[02:04] <voidmage> wow, that bot has an answer for everything.
[02:04] <BluesKaj> if ya know what to ask :P
[02:05] <genii> !botsnack
[02:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:07] <gumby_> voidmage: thanks.. brb
[02:13] <archangel_> what can I use to open torrent files other than azureus?
[02:13] <voidmage> ktorrent
[02:15] <archangel_> cool thanks
[02:15] <dana_> o_O
[02:16] <genii> bittorrent
[02:16] <dana_> deadtorrent
[02:16] <archangel_> ktorrent sux
[02:16] <underdog5004> rtorrent rox
[02:17] <Jucato> O.o
[02:18] <underdog5004> !rtorrent
[02:18] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[02:19] <archangel_> I cant even download for somereason
[02:19] <archangel_> sheesh, what gives
[02:19] <underdog5004> archangel_, with which client?
[02:19] <archangel_> I uninstalled ktorrent
[02:19] <underdog5004> have you done any kind of port-forwarding?
[02:20] <underdog5004> That helps.
[02:20] <underdog5004> A lot
[02:20] <archangel_> now I dont see it as an option to install in adept
[02:20] <underdog5004> archangel_, type this in a console: sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[02:20] <archangel_> oh yeah, forgot that
[02:20] <underdog5004> lol
[02:20] <archangel_> sorry nebie here
[02:20] <archangel_> hehe
[02:23] <archangel_>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[02:23] <archangel_> whats up with that?
[02:23] <hellcattrav> where is popupl blocker for firefox, i can't find it....
[02:23] <archangel_>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[02:23] <archangel_> oops sorry
[02:24] <underdog5004> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:24] <archangel_> its built in
[02:24] <underdog5004> only do that if you don't have some other installer running
[02:24] <Jucato> archangel_: is Adept still open?
[02:24] <archangel_> yes
[02:24] <underdog5004> gotta kill it
[02:24] <archangel_> I'll close it
[02:24] <archangel_> ok
[02:24] <underdog5004> lol
[02:24] <hellcattrav> damn it, 1.5.x had an option on the tool bar....did they do away with it?
[02:25] <ender_> quit
[02:25] <ender_> sorry...
[02:27] <hellcattrav> so does anyone know WTF is wrong with FF?
[02:33] <sittisal> hello
[02:33] <sittisal> in feisty i noticed compiz-kde
[02:34] <sittisal> instead of desktop-effects package (that download a lot of gnome dependencies)
[02:34] <Rob-West> kubuntu is gonnahave compiz
[02:34] <sittisal> is there a way to try this compiz-kde?
[02:35] <dr_willis> !compwiz
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <dr_willis> hmm
[02:35] <Rob-West> !compiz
[02:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:35] <Rob-West> !compiz-kde
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <infocrash> !opensuse
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <Jucato> !compiz | sittisal
[02:35] <ubotu> sittisal: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <sittisal> thanks everyone
[02:36] <sittisal> i would not use any of 3rd parts repos
[02:37] <sittisal> so while testing kubuntu feisty i would try this package
[02:37] <admin1> is there a way to talk under a subtopic...
[02:37] <admin1> ...I can't get compiz to work
[02:38] <sittisal> mmm... i know
[02:38] <admin1> XGL won't install; [BREAK] 
[02:38] <sittisal> there are 10000 ways to get thing works
[02:39] <sittisal> but in a kubuntu specific way
[02:39] <admin1> nvidia keeps on demanding updates; i think i reinstalled nvidia like 30 times
[02:39] <sittisal> something that allow user to do this in a standard and default way
[02:41] <dr_willis> thats whats great about standards - thers so many to chose from
[02:45] <soulrider> admin1: i thinkt he problem is that youre reinstalling a coi8uple of packages over and overt again :P
[02:47] <octo__> Does anyone have the problem in Feisty where the  nvidia-glx drivers in the Repos wont wirk ??
[02:48] <admin1> as far as I know; I am using edgy
[02:48] <octo__> same prob in both 32 bit and 64 bit
[02:48] <dr_willis> Feisty is a work in progress.....
[02:48] <dr_willis> so it may  some kernel update broke somthing
[02:49] <octo__> I downloaded the drivers from Nvidia's site and compiled them and those kind of worked, but it seemed it was buggy though
[02:49] <admin1> I just recovered from reinstalling nvid-glx after running a script from some tutorial that was supposed to auto-install compiz
[02:49] <octo__> my screensaver and berrrryl didnt work corectly
[02:50] <dr_willis> heh  script from some tutorial.. :)
[02:50] <octo__> but, the nvidia-glx ones in the repos wouldnt even load at all when i rebooted X
[02:50] <admin1> i'm going to clean up extra repositiories that these tutorial sites requested...
[02:51] <octo__> the cool thing is that with the new ver of KDE or, maybe just changes in Kubuntu feisty, they fixed a serious lag problem in the video update
[02:51] <octo__> but, now the 3d doesnt work great lol
[02:52] <admin1> http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu;http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/;http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu disabled
[02:52] <octo__> i can wait till Feisty      comes out a little more fixed up
[02:52] <admin1> (quick note; it took me a while to get ogl to work; had to switch from default' to pro
[02:53] <admin1> proprietary!?
[02:53] <archangel_> too white and nerdy
[02:54] <admin1> hmm.. can't install anthing without getting "BREAK(install)"
[02:54] <octo__> has anyone in here gotten Feisty/nvidia/beryl   working good yet?
[02:54] <admin1> what does BREAK(install) mean?
[02:55] <BluesKaj> broken pkg due to dependency probs
[02:55] <BluesKaj> usually
[02:55] <admin1> dependency; shouldn't it request required pkgs anyway?
[02:56] <Jucato> BREAK(install) means that what you're requesting Adept to do will break the dependencies of something that are installed already
[02:57] <Jucato> using apt-get will give more detailed error messages
[02:57] <octo__> is there a irc channel for Feisty alone ?
[02:57] <KaoticEvil> which nVidia driver would be the best one to use for a GeForce FX5200?
[02:57] <KaoticEvil> the one in the repos, or the one from nVidia?
[02:57] <posingaspopular> KaoticEvil: #nvidia
[02:58] <admin1> ...I never could get the thing from the nvidia web site to install.. that was a disaster
[02:58] <octo__> the nvidia source installs good since edgy i found
[02:58] <admin1> running the script just made X not start at all; took me forever to find out how to get back to vesa
[02:58] <octo__> the gcc ver mismatch stuff in dapper was a pain though
[02:59] <Jucato> octo__: #ubuntu+1
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> posingaspopular: i was referring specifically to which driver for Edgy...
[03:00] <octo__> sweeeet, thanks jucato
[03:00] <octo__> how can i get your name to come up first for a reply to someone?
[03:00] <octo__> just type it?
[03:01] <posingaspopular> octo__:  type a bit of it, hit tab
[03:01] <Jucato> octo__: type a few letters of the nick, press tab
[03:01] <octo__> Jucato:  cool
[03:02] <octo__> posingaspopular:   thanks
[03:04] <makuseru> when i try to play a avi or wmv in konqueror it says i need the "netscape plugin" what exactly is it i need? and where can i get it?
[03:04] <jrjx> What's the "proper" command to use to configure my X server driver software?  I have a monitor that will do 1200 x 1024, and I want to make sure the server will do that (assuming my video card will support it -- how can I tell?)
[03:05] <Jucato> !xconfig | jrjx
[03:05] <ubotu> jrjx: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:05] <jrjx> !FixRes
[03:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:06] <jrjx> Looking at it now.  Thankee.
[03:06] <makuseru> when i try to play a avi or wmv in konqueror it says i need the "netscape plugin" what exactly is it i need? and where can i get it?
[03:07] <jrjx> Oh, one other question -- if I do that (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) from within a running xserver (as opposed to a Twue Console window), will I break anything?
[03:08] <genii> It won't take effect til next time you start the X server
[03:09] <ken> i had two operating systems on here and i lost my windows operating system how do i get it back
[03:09] <jrjx> Okay, I can live with that.
[03:09] <genii> !mbr recover
[03:09] <ubotu> mbr: Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[03:09] <genii> bah
[03:10] <genii> darn you ubotu
[03:10] <esaym> Whats a good LAME front end?
[03:11] <ken>  i had two operating systems on here and i lost my windows operating system how do i get it back
[03:12] <underdog5004> run the windowsXP install disc, run the recovery console, then type fixmbr
[03:12] <underdog5004> then you're gonna have to reinstall grub to get your linux stuff back
[03:12] <ken> daang was hoping not to do that
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ppl forget to choose a bootloader when installing kubuntu ...i thought Grub was installed by default . What gives ?
[03:15] <underdog5004> naw, he messed up his mbr
[03:15] <dr_willis> i dont rember it ever asking...
[03:15] <dr_willis> the alt install cd. may asl where to put it.. not sure.
[03:17] <snake> hi
[03:17] <dr_willis> Hellos
[03:17] <snake> how can i see what version of kubuntu i am using
[03:17] <ghetek> guys, i need to mount a folder from my ssh account on my hosted server. i tried doing the remote places thing but amarok wont read media files that way
[03:17] <dr_willis> uname -a givs kernel version
[03:17] <BluesKaj> I'll bet he defragged windows before setting up the partitions ...some partition editord recommend that
[03:18] <dr_willis> ghetek,  you mean it tries to 'download' the media file - then play them that way?
[03:18] <ghetek> give me a sec and i will tell you the error message
[03:18] <hellcattrav> ok so i removed firefox and installed it again, but its still crashing wheni go to yaoo
[03:19] <dr_willis> hellcattrav,  thats windows thinking  that removeing/reinstalling would fix it.. - its possible its a flash media player isue crashing.
[03:19] <echosyp> anyone know why hostap drivers don't recognize my card, and wlan-ng drivers won't let me configure it
[03:19] <ghetek> Error Loading Media
[03:19] <ghetek> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[03:19] <ghetek> fish://ghetek@ghetek.com:22/home/ghetek/listen.ghetek.com/media/CocoRosie - Noah's Ark/05 - CocoRosie - Tekno Love Song.mp3/05 - CocoRosie - Tekno Love Song.mp3
[03:19] <snake> how can i see what version of kubuntu i am using
[03:19] <ghetek> sorry guys i didnt think it would flood
[03:19] <makuseru> when i try to play a avi or wmv in konqueror it says i need the "netscape plugin" what exactly is it i need? and where can i get it?
[03:19] <dr_willis> ghetek,  not all media players support that fish:// stuff. what one you trying to use?
[03:20] <ghetek> dr_willis: i just want to mount my ssh account space in a way that makes it possible to play music
[03:20] <dr_willis> ghetek,  i would say check out that 'fuse' sshfs stuff
[03:21] <ghetek> i will check it out
[03:21] <ghetek> thanks!
[03:21] <hellcattrav> but im not in windows, im in linux, so what would windows have anything to do?
[03:21] <ghetek> dr_willis: where do i find out about that?
[03:21] <snake> how can i see what version of kubuntu i am using
[03:21] <dr_willis> hellcattrav,  you are thinking in a 'windows mentality'  that "removeing/reinstalling will Fix anything"  -
[03:22] <hellcattrav> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser_will_not_start_up#Linux-specific_problems  would the first one possibly  be a solution
[03:22] <dr_willis> hellcattrav,  the only things ive seen lately that crash firefox is flash issues.  - you could run the browser from a terminal and see if any error messages show up.
[03:23] <echosyp> reinstalling can fix things in linux
[03:23] <echosyp> but thats not what im here about
[03:23] <echosyp> anyone know why hostap drivers don't recognize my card, and wlan-ng drivers won't let me configure it
[03:23] <dr_willis> echosyp,  i wouldent bet on it.  but thats enough on that topic.
[03:26] <snake> how can i see what version of kubuntu i am using
[03:26] <echosyp> good question
[03:26] <underdog5004> uname --help
[03:26] <dr_willis> theres a /etc/lsb_release file perhaps?
[03:26] <dr_willis> uname gives the kernel version
[03:27] <underdog5004> can't remember which one...lol
[03:27] <Jucato> snake: lsb_release -a
[03:27] <Jucato> underdog5004: that's for the kernel
[03:27] <surgy> anyone know of any resume builder tools?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> hellcattrav, try the command in the terminal ...it can't hurt , I don't think
[03:27] <underdog5004> I thought you could do release as well?
[03:27] <echosyp> uname shows kernel info
[03:28] <echosyp> won't show you what version of kubuntu you are using
[03:28] <echosyp> not just kernel info
[03:28] <echosyp> but you get hte point
[03:28] <underdog5004> my bad
[03:28] <dr_willis> i though tht MOTD on the console showed the versions...
[03:28] <underdog5004> lol, I'm reading through uname --help right now...I was wrong...
[03:28] <echosyp> it happens
[03:28] <underdog5004> yep
[03:28] <echosyp> so uh...
[03:28] <underdog5004> to me, a lot!
[03:28] <echosyp> anyone know why hostap drivers don't recognize my card, and wlan-ng drivers won't let me configure it
[03:29] <surgy> hello dr_willis how are you?
[03:29] <dr_willis> Been playing Marrowind:obolvian today :)
[03:29] <dr_willis> goofing off all day
[03:29] <surgy> awsome game
[03:30] <snake> how can i install synaptic
[03:30] <surgy> kudos
[03:30] <snake> how can i install synaptic
[03:30] <dr_willis> same as you install any other program
[03:30] <echosyp> apt-get install synaptic
[03:30] <echosyp> ?
[03:30] <dr_willis> fire up package manager, or use apt-get
[03:30] <snake> i cant get it
[03:30] <surgy> snake: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:30] <underdog5004> heh, I installed beryl for my nvidia geforce2 go card...it only has 16Mb RAM, but it does everything...I just can't use my system for anything useful, cause there's not enough ram to store application GUI data as well as the "cube" lol
[03:30] <snake> i cant get it
[03:30] <echosyp> sucks
[03:30] <echosyp> someone fix my wifi card, i'll brb
[03:30] <dr_willis> !info synaptic
[03:30] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.57.11ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1032 kB, installed size 5420 kB
[03:30] <surgy> !repos | snake
[03:30] <ubotu> snake: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:30] <echosyp> someone get me unbanned from #ubuntu
[03:31] <snake> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:31] <snake> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:31] <snake> is only available from another source
[03:31] <snake> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[03:31] <dr_willis> try an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade , then install it.
[03:31] <underdog5004> snake, you need to enable other repos
[03:31] <makuseru> when i try to play a avi or wmv in konqueror it says i need the "netscape plugin" what exactly is it i need? and where can i get it?
[03:32] <dr_willis> makuseru,  theres a mplayer-plugin for the browsers
[03:32] <dr_willis> !find mplayer
[03:32] <ubotu> Found: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, kmplayer-doc, mozilla-mplayer (and 6 others)
[03:32] <makuseru> mplayer works fine in FF
[03:32] <dr_willis> kmplayer-konq-plugins - looks promising
[03:33] <makuseru> getting it now
[03:35] <surgy> imop it should be part of the basic install for adept to update and upgrade the entire system before anything else is done
[03:35] <hellcattrav> dr_willis:  yeah someone pointed me towards a fix, but idon't know anything bout .tar, or using it once ive dl'd to the desktop.....
[03:36] <dr_willis> hellcattrav,  whats the fix supposed to fix?
 snake, you need to enable other repos
[03:38] <snake> i enabled
[03:38] <snake> all repos
[03:38] <snake> and it says the same thing
[03:41] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get update
[03:41] <underdog5004> that's letting apt know that you've got new repos
[03:42] <underdog5004> ^^ @ snake ^^
[03:43] <hellcattrav> dr_willis: in the link i posted earlier   its under linux specific problems, ownership-  might that be a solution?
[03:43] <snake> i enabled
[03:43] <snake> all repos
[03:44] <snake> and it says the same thing
[03:44] <hellcattrav> someone said something bout a .tar, but idon't know what to do anything besides downloading it to the desktop
[03:44] <hellcattrav> http://flashblock.mozdev.org/  like i said i don't know anything bout .tar files
[03:46] <dr_willis> flashblock is a mozilla firefox extension that blocks flash media from playing untill its clicked on.,
[03:47] <dr_willis> clicking on http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/flashblock-1.5.unstable.xpi     'should' have firefox install it.
[03:48] <BluesKaj> !tar.gz
[03:48] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:48] <dr_willis> of course if flash is crashing your browser - you may want to install the latest flash player/plugins..
[03:48] <hellcattrav> it asks me what program i want to run it...
[03:49] <hellcattrav> yeah but its complicated and im trying to find an answer, or at least explicit directions not several ways to do it(which is great, but now im tired of it and just 1 solution will do)
[03:49] <underdog5004> snake, you did a sudo apt-get update?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> hellcattrav, did you look above  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:50] <dr_willis> hellcattrav,  im not sure we understand what you are really trying to do.
[03:51] <BluesKaj> he's trying to install firefox
[03:51] <hellcattrav> get firefox to work-- mainly actaully work with yahoo,
[03:51] <dr_willis> You mean the main yahoo.com web page crashes firefox ?
[03:51] <hellcattrav> yes sir
[03:52] <snake> underdog
[03:52] <snake> yes
[03:52] <dr_willis> Im not seeing any Flash media on yahoo.com main page.. let me reload
[03:52] <snake> i did it and no result
[03:52] <snake> it says the same thing
[03:53] <hellcattrav> bollacks then maybe its not flash? at this point i don't know what could be causing the problem
[03:53] <dr_willis> I just installed that flashblock plugin, and the yahoo page has nothing being blocked.
[03:54] <dr_willis> onlyu thing i notice on the paste is a few javascripts i think
[03:55] <soulrider> have you tried Opera ?
[03:55] <hellcattrav> yes i have, opera works fine
[03:55] <soulrider> ahh
[03:55] <soulrider> i prefer Opera
[03:55] <hellcattrav> but i like firefox...and at this point i would like to see whats caused me 2 weeks worth of hassle
[03:55] <hellcattrav> why?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> did you try Konqueror hellcattrav
[03:55] <hellcattrav> yep, don't like it as much
[03:55] <soulrider> hellcattrav: have you tried purging FF and reisntalling ?
[03:56] <hellcattrav> not purging
[03:56] <hellcattrav> how do i do that?
[03:56] <soulrider> purge it
[03:56] <soulrider> sudo aptitude purge firefox
[03:56] <hellcattrav> ok
[03:56] <soulrider> but
[03:56] <soulrider> wait
[03:56] <hellcattrav> but...
[03:56] <soulrider> it may delete bookmarks and stuff like that
[03:56] <hellcattrav> waiting....
[03:56] <soulrider> so back them up
[03:56] <hellcattrav> ive no bookmarks in ff yet, not using em till i get it to work
[03:56] <Uberuxterm> hey guys quick question, what would be the best WM to use on 466mhz/512ram 14gb hd system?
[03:56] <dr_willis> make a new user.. see if their firefox messes up
[03:56] <BluesKaj> soulrider, i think it may be his only solution since he insatlled FF before KDE
[03:57] <matrix> is there a 3d desktop solution for ubuntu considered stable or default?
[03:57] <hellcattrav> but in installed Kubuntu first
[03:57] <Jucato> none
[03:57] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: nice RAM but the processor is a bit slow, i suggets you try XFCE or Fluxbox
[03:57] <dr_willis> matrix,  none that i would consider stable. :)
[03:57] <Jucato> matrix: none. no stable, no default
[03:57] <Uberuxterm> soulrider Roger
[03:57] <hellcattrav> unless its cos ive got firefox in windows....
[03:57] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: good luck!
[03:57] <matrix> will it be in the next release or do we have to wait longer?
[03:58] <Uberuxterm> soulrider Im kinda new, how would i uninstall stuff like gnome?
[03:58] <soulrider> hellcattrav: just try purging and installing
[03:58] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: you dont need to
[03:58] <dr_willis> or move the .firefox or .mozilla dir.
[03:58] <Uberuxterm> soulrider takes too much space? 500mb
[03:58] <soulrider> you can select the WM before you log in
[03:58] <Jucato> matrix: not in the next release. and it all depends on whether compiz or beryl gets stable enough to be included in the 7.10 release
[03:58] <Uberuxterm> soulrider but the space issue
[03:58] <soulrider> fluxbox is friggin tiny
[03:58] <soulrider> and XFCE is quite small too
[03:58] <soulrider> dont you worry
[03:58] <Uberuxterm> soulrider ok but if i use those i wont need gnome so how would i remove
[03:59] <dwidmann> hellcattrav: Still working on that firefox problem eh? Perhaps it would be worth your time to give Konqueror or Opera a try?
[03:59] <hellcattrav> first i had Kubuntu, and then i tried to get firefox but it was crashing and then i got ubuntu-desktop and ive since tried reinstalling firefox several times since then, so at this point i will try to purge  and install it
[03:59] <soulrider> to uninstall gnome i think by doing "sudoa ptitude remove gnome" is enough
[03:59] <Uberuxterm> ok
[03:59] <dr_willis> assuming you installed gnome wth appitude
[03:59] <Uberuxterm> apt-get?
[03:59] <hellcattrav> dwidmann: ive got opera, if i can't get FF to work i will use opera but now im motivated to try to find out why its doing this
[04:00] <kubuntu> algum brasileiro?
[04:00] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: aptitude is a bit better than apt-get
[04:00] <soulrider> !br | kubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> kubuntu: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:00] <Uberuxterm> soulrider can i  still use the command u gave?
[04:00] <soulrider> sure
[04:01] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: to remove GNOME, you can use "sudo aptitude remove gnome" or " sudo apt-get remove gnome"
[04:01] <Uberuxterm> ok
[04:01] <Uberuxterm> hx
[04:01] <Uberuxterm> thx
[04:01] <soulrider> no prob
[04:01] <soulrider> if youre unsure of something, just ask
[04:01] <Uberuxterm> ok:)
[04:05] <pirothezero> anyone know of a guide thats like the ubuntuguide.org but for general linux? with anchored links and such
[04:05] <pirothezero> general linux stuff on google is crap it seems like
[04:05] <dr_willis> tldp.org :)
[04:06] <dwidmann> tldp.org is great .... though it's usually pretty old
[04:06] <hellcattrav> so anyone got anyideas?
[04:06] <Jucato> pirothezero: http://del.icio.us/jucato/LinuxSites
[04:07] <dwidmann> I mean, you know a doc is old if it's still talking about the 2.2 kernel
[04:07] <Jucato> dwidmann: some of the docs are updated regularly
[04:07] <dwidmann> Some
[04:07] <Jucato> not everything is old/new
[04:08] <dwidmann> But many of the ones I ran into looked ancient .... maybe it was just what I was looking for.
[04:08] <dx11101> howcome the guarddog icon looks like some pussy beagle?
[04:08] <Uberuxterm> soulrider if i do that apt-get remove gnome, it says 45.1kb disk pace will be freed, what about the 500mb it took to get installed?
[04:09] <soulrider> uhm
[04:09] <soulrider> that was a guess actually
[04:09] <soulrider> try sudo aptitude remove gnome
[04:09] <soulrider> and see if it will free up more space
[04:09] <dx11101> root > super user
[04:09] <soulrider> if not, let me look for a tutorial or something
[04:09] <dwidmann> dx11101: pretty funny that it looks like that now that I think about it.
[04:09] <soulrider> dx11101: whatch the language
[04:10] <Uberuxterm> same thing... soulrider
[04:10] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: hold on
[04:10] <soulrider> im gonna search the forums
[04:10] <Jucato> Uberuxterm: what are you trying to do?
[04:10] <hellcattrav> alright so im about to give up on this FF problem, should i just forget it and go with opera...but i don't like when i have to give up
[04:11] <Jucato> Uberuxterm: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde <--- something like that?
[04:11] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: how about if you just reformat and install xubuntu? its an alternative that seems "cleaner" to me
[04:12] <dr_willis> running firefox from a terminal dont give any info when it crashes?
[04:12] <Uberuxterm> wtf is xubuntu
[04:12] <dr_willis> !xubuntu
[04:12] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[04:12] <mcp_> i have installed kubuntu and xubuntu desktop over ubuntu and gdmsetup does not work anymore... any idea that might solve it?
[04:12] <dr_willis> ubnutu - gnome + xfce
[04:12] <dx11101> Why am i paying 50 bucks a month for internet when i can buy a parabolic grid antenna and use my clueless neighbors internet?
[04:12] <Uberuxterm> but thats a waste of time
[04:12] <Uberuxterm> i should be able to uninstall gnome and then use fluxbox
[04:12] <dwidmann> about removing gnome: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:13] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: xubuntu is ubuntu with XFCE
[04:13] <hellcattrav> dk11101: ethics?
[04:13] <dr_willis> mcp_,  Uberuxterm  you can if you really wan tto..
[04:13] <soulrider> ahh, youre using fluxbox, ok
[04:13] <Uberuxterm> but i have to dl it, burn it, etc
[04:13] <Jucato> dwidmann: look up a bit :)
[04:13] <dr_willis> there was some fluxbox-ubuntu variant i thought
[04:13] <dwidmann> Wait
[04:13] <dwidmann> Curses
[04:13] <dwidmann> And here while I was googling you had already mentioned it
[04:13] <dwidmann> Bah
[04:13] <Jucato> dr_willis: fluxbuntu I think :)
[04:13] <dwidmann> I feel slow
[04:13] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde you have what you gotta paste to remove ubuntu, thats GNOME and its apps
[04:13] <Jucato> dwidmann: you're not the only one ^^^^
[04:14] <Jucato> :D
[04:14] <Uberuxterm> ok
[04:14] <dr_willis> install fluxbox. and loging to it  instead of gnome or kde, or whatever...
[04:15] <soulrider> dr_willis: he wants to get rid of GNOME becaus ehe needs the space
[04:15] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: i have to tell you, fluxbox can be a bit different
[04:15] <soulrider> the interface is different
[04:15] <soulrider> and you need to do some manual configuration
[04:15] <dr_willis> theres some 'remove gnome under ubuntu' web site i recall :) but never used it.
[04:15] <dx11101> cant dr willis use knoppix live cd and gparted to resize his partition bigger?
[04:16] <dr_willis> dx11101,  he could..
[04:16] <dwidmann> Jucato: oh well, at least if I have to be slow at everything else .... at least I'm a god of speed in video games, that always makes me feel better.
[04:16] <hellcattrav> dr_willis, souldrider:  anyone got ideas, im about to give up with FF
[04:16] <mcp_> dr willis: gdmsetup has been reported as broken for a long time, but the silutions mentioned in the forums do not simply work
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> hellcattrav: firefox?
[04:16] <hellcattrav> yeah
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> hellcattrav: what are you trying to do
[04:16] <dr_willis> hellcattrav,  other then running firefox from a terminal and see ing any sort of error messages when it crashes.. i cant think of where to begin.
[04:17] <Uberuxterm> soulrider ok now it says 680mb will be freed :)
[04:17] <hellcattrav> i don't know how to explain it.... but it crashes when i try to view yahoo
[04:17] <Uberuxterm> soulrider should i go ahead with it
[04:17] <dwidmann> hellcattrav: What version of Firefox do you have installed ..... definitely try another :)
[04:17] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: before removing, log into fluxbox
[04:17] <soulrider> and then remove
[04:17] <soulrider> but now that i think of IT
[04:17] <hellcattrav> i ran it from the console but no one could come to any conclusion so im loathe to try again for fear of the same results
[04:17] <dx11101> is vmware free for linux?
[04:17] <soulrider> maybe XFCE is more friendly for you
[04:18] <Admiral_Chicago> hellcattrav: #ubuntu-mozillateam I can help you there
[04:18] <dr_willis> dx11101,  there are free versions of the vmware player and vmware server
[04:18] <dr_willis> !vmware
[04:18] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[04:18] <hellcattrav> version 2.0.0.1
[04:18] <hellcattrav> ok
[04:18] <dwidmann> dx11101: free as in $$
[04:18] <dx11101> im going to use vmware in kubuntu to run ubuntu
[04:18] <superlinux> hello i got a problem i installed w32 and rest but everytime i try to see a video on web tells me no vide what plugins to i neaD?
[04:18] <soulrider> lol dx11101
[04:19] <superlinux> couse i got all flash java w32 and rest
[04:19] <dx11101> actually i want to get my hand dirty with some BSD
[04:19] <hellcattrav> admiral_chicago: Im in the other channel
[04:19] <superlinux> any one knows the plugins or codecs we nead to see videos online?
[04:20] <mcp_> superlinux: go and get automatix or easyubuntu
[04:20] <dx11101> wow vmware is availible on apt-get
[04:20] <superlinux> they told me automatix breaks the os
[04:20] <dx11101> thank you god
[04:20] <Uberuxterm> soulrider im in kDE removing gnome.
[04:20] <Uberuxterm> lol
[04:20] <superlinux> what's easyubuntu?
[04:20] <soulrider> lol Uberuxterm
[04:20] <Uberuxterm> lmao
[04:21] <Uberuxterm> :D
[04:21] <dr_willis> dx11101,  thats vmware player.
[04:21] <dwidmann> !easyubuntu > superlinux
[04:21] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: i think its better if you install xubuntu-desktop and then remove all GNOME and all KDE
[04:21] <dx11101> easyubuntu is the prequel of N00bUntu
[04:21] <mcp_> they both do the same: they help you find and install the required packages
[04:21] <superlinux> i remember there's a all in 1 plugin or codec called rplayer something like on mandriva and pclinuxos i installed it and was able to see any video on web
[04:21] <Jucato> !automatix
[04:21] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:21] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[04:21] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:22] <superlinux> im not using automatix
[04:22] <superlinux> breaks up my system
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd suggest not using either of those
[04:22] <Admiral_Chicago> for that reason
[04:22] <Uberuxterm> soulrider how come i cant find XFCE in packages?
[04:22] <Jucato> !info xfce
[04:22] <ubotu> Package xfce does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:22] <dx11101> man i though apt-get made life easy and now we have automatrixes?
[04:22] <superlinux> admiral can u tell me what i nead to see the videos online?
[04:22] <Jucato> !info xfce4 | Uberuxterm
[04:22] <ubotu> uberuxterm: xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.90.2 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB
[04:22] <soulrider> Uberuxterm: install xubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <superlinux> it was something like rplayer all plugins some thing like that
[04:23] <dr_willis> dx11101,  automatix can cause mopre problems then it fix's
[04:23] <Uberuxterm> k
[04:23] <Uberuxterm> let this finish (uninstall) its gonne take awhle i can tell
[04:23] <superlinux> hello drwillis
[04:23] <dx11101> apt-get install reallycoolstuffkthx
[04:23] <soulrider> lol k
[04:23] <dr_willis> these fancy scripts are going too far...
[04:24] <superlinux> ok i explain my problem im not able to see 90% of videos on web iw as able to see whit mandriva or pclinuxos installing some thing called like rplayer or mplayer all plugins
[04:24] <superlinux> can u tell me dr willis what i nead here?
[04:24] <dx11101> marcromedia flash player
[04:24] <superlinux>  i got that
[04:24] <superlinux> plug in for firefox to 9
[04:24] <dx11101> o ooh
[04:24] <dx11101> lemmie think how i did it
[04:24] <Admiral_Chicago> superlinux: what browser?
[04:24] <dx11101> cause it didnt work for me out of the box either
[04:24] <dr_willis> superlinux,  depends on the videos a great deal. you proberly need the flash player for many sites (youtube) then the mplayer package and codecs, and the mplayer plugin for the browser
[04:25] <superlinux> firefox
[04:25] <Jucato> superlinux: try installing mozilla-mplayer
[04:25] <dx11101> i think firefox needs a flash plugin
[04:25] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[04:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:25] <Admiral_Chicago> mplayer-plugin and flash 9 for linux
[04:25] <Jucato> !mozilla-mplayer
[04:25] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[04:25] <superlinux> i got all that
[04:25] <superlinux> let me check better brb
[04:25] <dx11101> then your DOOMED
[04:25] <dx11101> lol j/k
[04:26] <dx11101> use wine to run internet explorer
[04:26] <dx11101> ;)
[04:27] <dx11101> i remember i had this problem two weeks ago and i fixed it somehow
[04:28] <dx11101> yeah
[04:28] <superlinux> what's the command to see what version of flash player i got?
[04:28] <dx11101> all i did was install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:28] <dr_willis> !flash
[04:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:28] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:28] <underdog5004> superlinux, just type about:plugins in firefox address bar
[04:29] <dx11101> if you add the non-free universe repositories you can find something called flashplugin-nonfree but i dont know if thats a fix
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> superlinux: apt-cache policy flashplayer-nonfree
[04:30] <jaime> Hola
[04:30] <dx11101> hola, como estas, muy bien, y tu?
[04:30] <jaime> Muy bien
[04:30] <Jucato> !es
[04:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:31] <dx11101> Vamos a la IRC en Espanol por favor
[04:31] <jaime> Un saludo muy especial a toda la comunidad Linux en especial a la de Ubuntu
[04:32] <dx11101> Mi Computadora Es muy cacada porque no tengo memorio
[04:33] <Jucato> hm....
[04:33] <superlinux> ok i got everything but im able still to view moast of videos on web it's strange couse whit mandrive and pclinuxos i just installed rplayer some thing all plugins and i was able to see everything
[04:33] <superlinux> hi jucato
[04:33] <superlinux> so i can't understand what im missing hre
[04:33] <superlinux> here*
[04:33] <dx11101> maybe you should try installing mplayer
[04:33] <dx11101> to get codecs
[04:34] <superlinux> i did
[04:34] <dx11101> crap
[04:34] <superlinux> i got everything so can't understand
[04:34] <Jucato> first try to determine what format the video is in. it might be a flash video, in which case mplayer won't play it
[04:34] <superlinux> apt-cache policy flashplayer-nonfree this command tells me can't fid it
[04:34] <dx11101> do you have all the kdemultimedia packages?
[04:35] <Jucato> it means it's not installed super
[04:35] <Jucato> it means it's not installed superlinux
[04:35] <Jucato> er
[04:35] <Jucato> flashplugin-nonfree
[04:35] <dx11101> you havent apt-get install superlinux yet
[04:35] <superlinux> jucato they are normal web videos i was able to see whit pclinuxos and mandriva
[04:35] <Jucato> not flashplayer-nonfree
[04:35] <superlinux> everything
[04:35] <superlinux> strange couse i installed from adpet
[04:35] <superlinux> plus mozilla installed if for me before
[04:36] <superlinux> so how can that be possible?
[04:36] <dx11101> do you have kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins    ????
[04:36] <superlinux> ill see
[04:36] <dx11101> also you could try installing VLC media player for more codecs
[04:36] <superlinux> done that
[04:37] <superlinux> can't wait pclinuxos is out and rest will be hisotry
[04:37] <superlinux> history*
[04:37] <superlinux> just wait 2007 and see
[04:37] <dx11101> thats all linux needed
[04:37] <dx11101> another distro
[04:38] <Melchiorre> superlinux: do the videos work in konqueror?
[04:38] <superlinux> ill try
[04:38] <superlinux> i got even those kdemultimedia btw
[04:38] <superlinux> http://www.channelchooser.com/
[04:38] <superlinux> this is what im trying to look at
[04:38] <superlinux> worked whit every distro strange
[04:39] <dx11101> Kubuntu is to debian what madriva is to pclinuxos
[04:39] <dx11101> nothing radical
[04:39] <dx11101> *mandriva
[04:40] <superlinux> on konqueror it works crazy
[04:40] <reldruh> hi. I just installed ndiswrapper and my wireless card seems to be working fine. I can see networks, but when I try to connect to one it fails. ndiswrapper doesn't report any issues, though. Any advice?
[04:40] <Uberuxterm> soulrider i did install xubuntu 480mb space,, is this ko
[04:40] <Uberuxterm> ok/
[04:40] <soulrider> ok
[04:40] <soulrider> now, log into XFCE
[04:40] <superlinux> ahah how can it be on konqueror it works
[04:41] <Melchiorre> superlinux: it works for me - it uses the kaffeine plugin - you could try that...
[04:41] <dx11101> i did a apt-get install viruskiller and my system worked better
[04:41] <superlinux> ok thanx
[04:41] <superlinux> whit firefox right?
[04:42] <superlinux> present for everyone http://www.channelchooser.com/
[04:42] <Melchiorre> reldruh: what are you using to try to connect to networks? Wireless assistant?
[04:43] <superlinux> melchiorre u where refering to firefox right ?
[04:43] <superlinux> whit that plugin
[04:44] <superlinux> couse now works just on conqueror
[04:44] <Melchiorre> superlinux: yes
[04:45] <superlinux> ok thanx  1000
[04:45] <otgonoo> can anyone please help me on "Hula"
[04:46] <superlinux> im installing it to see melchiorre
[04:47] <dx11101> superlinux do you get video on channelchooser?
[04:47] <superlinux> do u know once i got new themes from kopete how  to install em Melchiorre?
[04:48] <superlinux> ill try now whit this kaffeine plugin i install brb
[04:48] <Melchiorre> superlinux: no idea bout kopete, sorry
[04:52] <superlinux> no still dosen't work on firefox damn
[04:52] <superlinux> but it's so strange
[04:52] <superlinux> i got everything possible
[04:52] <Melchiorre> :/
[04:53] <dx11101> what site doesnt work for you superlinux
[04:53] <superlinux> everyone ahah
[04:54] <dx11101> youtube and googlevideo?
[04:54] <superlinux> cant' see 90% of videos on firefox
[04:54] <superlinux> so strange
[04:55] <superlinux> they do
[04:55] <superlinux> but the rest don't and they should
[04:55] <superlinux> Melchiorre can see em
[04:55] <superlinux> and on every distro they went so strange
[04:56] <dx11101> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/02/25/2110219.shtml - this is noteworthy
[04:56] <dx11101> vote KUBUNTU!
[04:57] <dx11101> novel is biased to SUSE
[04:57] <Melchiorre> superlinux: when looking at this site: http://www.channelchooser.com/ do you see the flash intro thing that loads straight away?
[04:57] <superlinux> i see it says no video
[04:57] <jfk55555> does anyone know about an overheating problem kubuntu has on laptops
[04:58] <superlinux> can u give me command to check if i got flashplayer even if i installed from adept and firefox
[04:58] <Melchiorre> what about when you click on one of the video links?
[04:58] <superlinux> same
[04:58] <dx11101> channelchooser doesnt work in linux if you do a simple google search, channelchooser linux
[04:58] <dx11101> people say it doesnt work in linux
[04:58] <Melchiorre> dx11101: it works for me...
[04:58] <dx11101> it works or you made it work?
[04:58] <Melchiorre> it works
[04:59] <dx11101> how
[04:59] <jfk55555> Overheating problem???
[04:59] <Melchiorre> well I probably made it work somehow, but not intentionally...
[04:59] <superlinux> brb
[04:59] <superlinux> thanx for help
[04:59] <Melchiorre> dx11101: the flash player works as normal to play the flash thing, and when I want to watch a channel, it uses the Kaffeine launcher plugin
[05:00] <Melchiorre> superlinux: no worries :-)
[05:00] <dx11101> ahhh its trying to use xine
[05:01] <dx11101> i dont remember installing xine
[05:04] <dr_willis> In soviet russia xine installs you!
[05:04] <Melchiorre> hahaha
[05:07] <jay> sound doesn't work all of a sudden.. how do I tourbleshoot?
[05:07] <jay> PCM and Master channels unmuted and at max from alsamixer
[05:08] <Melchiorre> jay: I'm no expert, but were you doing anything different when it stopped working?
[05:08] <jay> nothin? it just happens every now and then
[05:08] <jay> mosttimes a reboot fixes it, but not this time
[05:09] <Melchiorre> do you have any other OS's installed that you can boot into and see if it's a hardware problem?
[05:10] <dx11101> jay: make sure your volume control hasnt muted anything and that all your mixers are not at zero
[05:10] <jay> it'll work in windows
[05:11] <jay> alsamixer says everything's maxed out.. pCM and master
[05:11] <dx11101> are you using onboard audio?
[05:11] <jay> so too says kmix
[05:11] <jay> yeah
[05:11] <jay> laptop
[05:11] <dx11101> ac 97?
[05:11] <jay> inspiron 9400
[05:12] <jay> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[05:12] <dx11101> the sound worked and then it broke?
[05:12] <jay> sometimes I boot up and have no sound
[05:12] <jay> doesn't stop workin in the middle of a session
[05:12] <dx11101> did you go into switches on kmix?
[05:13] <jay> yeah
[05:13] <jay> there's a yellow orb thingy that is selected
[05:13] <dx11101> do a apt-get install alsamixergui
[05:13] <jay> I use alasmixer from the console and it says everything's maxed
[05:13] <jay> 1 sec
[05:13] <dx11101> maybe kmix sux
[05:14] <dx11101> in kmix do you have iec958 playback enabled?
[05:14] <jay> alll maxed there too
[05:15] <jay> yeah i do
[05:15] <dx11101> crap
[05:15] <dx11101> i have no idea what your problem could be
[05:15] <jay> how do i check if alsa modules are loaded?
[05:15] <dx11101> just go into adept
[05:15] <dx11101> on the search type alsa
[05:16] <dx11101> and you should have the base installed right?
[05:16] <jay> loaded, not installed
[05:16] <jay> yeah
[05:16] <jay> i do
[05:16] <dx11101> howabout the utils?
[05:16] <jay> ii  alsa-base                          1.0.11-5ubuntu1                    ALSA driver configuration files
[05:16] <jay> un  alsa-headers                       <none>                             (no description available)
[05:16] <jay> ii  alsa-oss                           1.0.11-1                           ALSA wrapper for OSS applications
[05:16] <jay> ii  alsa-tools-gui                     1.0.11-1                           GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware
[05:16] <jay> ii  alsa-utils                         1.0.11-6ubuntu2                    ALSA utilities
[05:16] <jay> un  alsa-xmms                          <none>                             (no description available)
[05:16] <jay> ii  alsamixergui                       0.9.0rc2-1-9                       graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver
[05:16] <crimsun> ack
[05:17] <crimsun> please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:17] <jay> sorry
[05:17] <jay> I have no idea y it's acting up
[05:17] <jay> I have alsa-utils in /etc/init.d
[05:17] <dx11101> it must be a compatibility problem with the drivers
[05:18] <jay> doubt it, it was workin 20 mins ago
[05:18] <crimsun> jay: pastebin all the required info from wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:18] <jay> I had 2 reboot tho
[05:18] <dx11101> i dont know how to do this but i would try compiling the driver instead of using binaries
[05:18] <crimsun> please don't recommend people recompile drivers
[05:18] <jay> how do I check if the alsa modules are loaded into the kernel?
[05:18] <crimsun> lsmod |grep ^snd
[05:19] <crimsun> jay: not to rush you, but my time is limited this evening. Please hurry.
[05:19] <jay> paste bin that?
[05:19] <crimsun> jay: no, all the info requested from wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:20] <dx11101> could be a hardware conflict
[05:21] <underdog5004> yay, getautomatix.com is back up.
[05:22] <dx11101> my paintball gun is automatix
[05:24] <crimsun> jay: when you've finished, tell us the URL.
[05:25] <jay> cuont down to 10
[05:25] <jay> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7604/
[05:32] <crimsun> the infamous 9200
[05:32] <crimsun> these HDA codecs are driving me up the wall
[05:33] <crimsun> jay: mute 'IEC958'
[05:35] <anees> hi uboto
[05:35] <anees> i want to download sun-java6-jdk and jre
[05:35] <anees> how can I do so?
[05:35] <anees> I want to download via terminal
[05:35] <anees> anybody help me plz
[05:37] <jack_> hi, is there a del.icio.us add-on for the konqueror?
[05:37] <anees> anybody help me plz
[05:37] <anees> I want to download something via terminal
[05:37] <anees> how can I do
[05:38] <posingaspopular> anees: sudo apt-get install
[05:38] <anees> no dear
[05:38] <anees> I don't want to install
[05:38] <anees> i want to download locally
[05:38] <posingaspopular> ....
[05:38] <posingaspopular> beats me
[05:38] <anees> :)
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> anees, do you know the location?
[05:38] <esaym> anyone know how much data a cdr can hold if overburning is enabled?
[05:38] <anees> no
[05:38] <`Z`> hi
[05:38] <anees> it is sun-java6-jdk
[05:38] <anees> and sun-java6-jre
[05:39] <anees> i want to download both of them
[05:39] <anees> how can
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> anees, wget will pull something off of a URL if you know what it is
[05:40] <anees> yes i know about wget
[05:40] <anees> but is it poosible to download by apt-get
[05:40] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre
[05:40] <anees> nixternal i want to download locally
[05:41] <anees> i don't want to install them
[05:41] <nixternal> anees: do you want the source or the .deb files?
[05:41] <anees> yes
[05:41] <jay> %c4crimsun.. any luck?
[05:41] <Melchiorre> anees: use sudo apt-get -d and it will download, but not install
[05:41] <jay> $crimsun... any luck?
[05:41] <nixternal> annen: what Melchiorre just said :)
[05:41] <anees> Melchiorre thanx dear
[05:41] <jay> crimsun, any luck?
[05:41] <nixternal> err
[05:42] <Melchiorre> anees: you're welcome :-)
[05:42] <nixternal> anees: apt-get source filename   <-- to get the source
[05:42] <nixternal> you alright there jay :)
[05:42] <crimsun> jay: I'm awaiting your feedback.
[05:42] <jay> was determined to get it right
[05:43] <jay> alright crimsun, appreciate it
[05:43] <anees> Melchiorre dear I m unable to do it
[05:43] <anees> can u plz tell me the command
[05:44] <anees> I want to download sun-java6-jre and jdk
[05:44] <Melchiorre> anees: sudo apt-get install -d sun-java6-jre jdk should do it
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> i dont think java 6 is in the repos yet
[05:46] <Melchiorre> annes: that will download the debs to /var/cache/apt/archives ... you can get them there
[05:46] <anees> thanx Melchiorre
[05:47] <Melchiorre> :-)
[05:47] <crystufer2000> Okay, how do I unmount a smb share?
[05:47] <crystufer2000> nevermind
[05:47] <crystufer2000> It did it itself.
[05:47] <Melchiorre> lol
[05:53] <crystufer2000> But I can't seem to put a space in my fstab and still have it work.
[05:53] <yuriy> what happened to the always use this action for this type of file option?
[05:54] <yuriy> er sry i guess that's more of a ubuntu+1 question
[05:55] <Melchiorre> yuriy: if it's a Gnome question, then yes
[05:55] <crystufer2000> Yuri! Shoujo Ai!!!
[05:55] <crystufer2000> Yay!
[05:55] <yuriy> nope, kde
[05:56] <yuriy> Melchiorre^
[05:58] <crazy_penguin> Good morning to all!
[05:59] <Melchiorre> Morning!
[05:59] <Melchiorre> yuriy: you mean the always open this file with this application option?
[06:00] <yuriy> Melchiorre: yeah
[06:01] <crystufer2000> Okay, found it.
[06:02] <crystufer2000> For the record, to insert a space in fstab, one inserts \040 in it's place.
[06:02] <Melchiorre> yuriy: it's still there for me... if you right click a file, go Open with -> Other There's a tickbox for 'Remember application association for this type of file'
[06:03] <yuriy> Melchiorre: what kde are you on?
[06:03] <yuriy> version
[06:03] <Melchiorre> 3.5.6
[06:03] <yuriy> hmm :-\
[06:04] <nixternal> yuriy: I have it here in Feisty as well
[06:04] <yuriy> Melchiorre: oh it's there for an associated file. but for a file with no associations the check box is not there
[06:04] <anees> Melchiorre I used the command to download jre
[06:04] <nixternal> ahh
[06:04] <anees> it completed
[06:04] <anees> but where it is saved
[06:05] <anees> I am unable to find the downloaded file
[06:05] <yuriy> in particular a .blend file. and that's another bug, it should be associated with blender
[06:05] <Melchiorre> anees: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:05] <anees> ok thanx
[06:06] <Melchiorre> yuriy: hmmm.... I have no idea...
[06:11] <NightBird> hm... so when my kubuntu install goes to sleep, then wakes up, it starts to draw the 'this computer has been locked, please put in the password', but then locks up.  The mouse still works, but I can't kill the x server or switch to other terminals..
[06:11] <NightBird> any idea whats going on?
[06:11] <dwidmann> Hmm, that doesn't seem to be working right :(
[06:12] <NightBird> the sleep thing? yeah...
[06:13] <NightBird> er... hibernate... or whatever you want to call it..
[06:15] <NightBird> dwidmann: don't say them out loud... or type them
[06:17] <dwidmann> Sorry, practically an instinctive response for me anymore ^^;
[06:18] <NightBird> :P
[06:18] <NightBird> that's alright
[06:23] <bordy> Heyo folks
[06:24] <dwidmann> hi bordy
[06:25] <bordy> had a bit of a silly question, only slightly related to kubuntu. I am in the process of switching off my xp partition completely, but am worried my stupid ipod won't read the files the same in amarok (different file paths and all)
[06:25] <bordy> anyone know?
[06:25] <NightBird> woo it worked...
[06:26] <NightBird> hm... the script worked fine... the normal suspend method didn't..
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> bordy, amarok reads ipods fine if you have the plugin for it, unless the stuff is DRM'd
[06:27] <NightBird> well... the script works alright, so I guess I'll just have to use that instead...
[06:35] <aztex> hola
[06:35] <NightBird> yo
[06:35] <aztex> ?????
[06:35] <NightBird> hi
[06:35] <aztex> ke onda
[06:35] <aztex> estoy calando esto
[06:35] <aztex> psssss
[06:35] <aztex> sta algo raro es como un chat
[06:35] <aztex> ??????
[06:35] <Jucato> !es  | aztex
[06:35] <ubotu> aztex: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:41] <ghetek> is there a way to get my google calendar to sync with my korganize? i want it to have live 2 way sync. is that possible?
[06:42] <mrbig> hey all i just installed kubuntu on my labtop
[06:43] <mrbig> i have a ATI 200M video card
[06:43] <mrbig> is there anyway or any need to update it, i would like to install beryl if possible
[06:43] <Dr_willis> I would have to say give it up.. :)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> it aint got the power to do beryl
[06:44] <Dr_willis> my laptop has a 200m - tested it with some live cd's - it can barely do it.
[06:44] <mrbig> ok
[06:44] <mrbig> well thanks for the advice then lol
[06:44] <Dr_willis> the fact the fglrx drivers worked.. amazed me. :)
[06:44] <mrbig> is there anything i can add to it to make it look and act better lol
[06:44] <snake> apt-get update
[06:44] <mrbig> like somewhat imitate beryl stuff
[06:44] <snake> problem
[06:45] <mrbig> im doing a dist-upgrade
[06:45] <mrbig> right now
[06:45] <Gtwy> having issues with my i810 video card in my notebook... http://gtwy.net/xorg.conf <= my config   http://gtwy.net/xorg.log <= log of it failing
[06:45] <Dr_willis> That Metiss (mettis) desktop enhancemne on that mandriva live cd - had some nice features and dident overload the video card. :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i forget the name.. Mettis or metiss..
[06:47] <Jucato> Metisse
[06:48] <Jucato> you dropped the 'e'...
[06:48] <NightBird> hm...
[06:48] <snake> apt-get update problem
[06:49] <snake> repos problem
[06:49] <snake> plz help
[06:50] <Minataku> Oops
[06:50] <snake> repos problem
[06:50] <snake> plz help
[06:50] <SolidSource> snake: have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[06:50] <Jucato> snake: please state your problem?
[06:50] <Jucato> we can't read your mind, nor see your computer :D
[06:51] <snake> :P
[06:51] <snake> sorry
[06:51] <snake> i mean
[06:51] <Darkkish> how do i mount something?
[06:51] <snake> i have installed first kubuntu 6.10
[06:51] <Jucato> if the error message have lots of lines, use pastebin
[06:51] <snake> and i cant download updates
[06:52] <snake> now i have 6.01
[06:52] <snake> the same problem
[06:52] <Jucato> 6.01?
[06:52] <snake> dapper
[06:52] <Jucato> there is no 6.01
[06:52] <Jucato> 6.06.1
[06:52] <snake> yes :P
[06:52] <snake> my fault
[06:52] <Darkkish> please help me
[06:52] <Darkkish> how do you mount things
[06:53] <Darkkish> i need to mount something in liveCD to make sure there aren't any important files before i format
[06:53] <Jucato> snake: anyway, the problem might be with your sources.list file, not your installation
[06:53] <NightBird> Darkkish, it might already be mounted... have you checked?
[06:53] <snake> i have make anything
[06:53] <snake> source-o-matic
[06:53] <Jucato> snake: you used source-o-matic?
[06:54] <snake> i used it after
[06:54] <Darkkish> NightBird duh i checked, i wouldn't be here if it weas mounted
[06:54] <Jucato> snake: what errors do you get when you use "sudo apt-get update"?
[06:54] <Darkkish> my mnt folder is empty
[06:54] <snake> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:55] <NightBird> Darkkish: yeah, I figured, just checking..
[06:55] <NightBird> well, I'm going to bed
[06:55] <Darkkish> yeah
[06:55] <NightBird> night!
[06:55] <Darkkish> well the command is like sudo mount somethingrather somethingelserather
[06:56] <NightBird> sudo mount <device> <directory>
[06:56] <NightBird> I think
[06:56] <NightBird> you could pull up the man page on it
[06:56] <Jucato> snake: ok hold on a sec..
[06:56] <snake> ok
[06:57] <NightBird> Darkkish: yeah, mount <device> <directory>
[06:57] <Darkkish> so
[06:57] <Darkkish> mount / mnt
[06:57] <NightBird> ....no...
[06:57] <Darkkish> mount / /mnt
[06:57] <Darkkish> well i'm new to linux
[06:57] <NightBird> mount /dev/<dev> /mnt/<directory>
[06:57] <Jucato> snake: not really sure, but are you using a proxy or something?
[06:57] <Darkkish> and in a hurry
[06:58] <Darkkish> ok
[06:58] <snake> no
[06:58] <NightBird> where dev is the harddrive(hda1, hda2, etc... maybe also hdb1, hdb2 etc...)
[06:58] <snake> i am sure. i am not behind a proxy
[06:58] <Jucato> hm..
[06:59] <Jucato> not really sure what could be wrong. :(
[06:59] <snake> you know what
[06:59] <snake> i have to days trying
[06:59] <snake> and always goes wrong
[07:00] <_6StringKng_> so I installed vista, how would I go about mouting the hdd thats on, and have it auto mount like my xp partiton?
[07:00] <_6StringKng_> that its on*
[07:01] <smaggard> hey
[07:03] <yknott> _6StringKng_: add the corresponding parameters to the /etc/fstab file;
[07:03] <_6StringKng_> ok
[07:03] <yknott> _6StringKng_: do you know the device and partition where windows is?
[07:04] <_6StringKng_> yes
[07:04] <_6StringKng_> hd/dev/hdb1
[07:04] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[07:04] <yknott> _6StringKng_: ok and do you know the filesystem (fat32 or ntfs)?
[07:04] <_6StringKng_> ntfs
[07:05] <NightBird> hm... xGL seemed to be alright with going to sleep then waking up later... that's good..
[07:05] <_6StringKng_> it auto mounts my xp partition, but I guess thats because I had XP installed before I installed Kubuntu
[07:05] <ForgeAus> hmmm how do I protect my fstab from being emptied?
[07:06] <_6StringKng_> and I edited grub/menu.lst and added vista to it just fine, boots fine
[07:06] <yknott> _6StringKng_: yeah so if you copy that line from the /etc/fstab file, you can change the device to the one you mentioned, /dev/hdb1 and change the mount point to the mount point for vistia
[07:06] <yknott> so then the /etc/fstab, add an entry such as   /dev/hdb1       /mnt/windows        ntfs
[07:06] <yknott> so then the /etc/fstab, add an entry such as   /dev/hdb1       /mnt/windows        ntfs             user,auto          0             0
[07:06] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:06] <_6StringKng_> ok
[07:07] <Dr_willis> that url is good to read/bookmark for future ntfs mounting information. :)
[07:07] <yknott> Dr_willis: ;)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  emptied? what is emptying it?
[07:08] <NightBird> I updated to 2.6.17-11... if I wanted to remove kernel 2.6.17-10, what should I do?
[07:08] <ForgeAus> I wish I knew
[07:08] <ForgeAus> all I know is sometimes when I log in its blanked out to 0 bytes!
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> NightBird, it'll show up as a package in synaptic
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> NightBird, just kill it from there
[07:10] <MobsterLobster> i want to use Kubuntu on XP with VMware but cant be bothered with the 700mb download. what bit of VMware do i have to download to use my Kubuntu CD?
[07:10] <ForgeAus> its not a bit of vmware that you need
[07:10] <ForgeAus> for kubuntu anyhow
[07:10] <MobsterLobster> well what vmware program do i need?
[07:11] <ForgeAus> you need either the server or player (or workstation?) version of vmware
[07:11] <ForgeAus> I recommend server because I know that one and it gives you more options to make VM's and stuff
[07:11] <sean_> So when's the USB going to be fixed in feisty?
[07:11] <ForgeAus> players small but you can't do much with it
[07:12] <Dr_willis> 700mb download? vmware server is like 100mb...
[07:12] <sean_> It's a bit annoying having to switch my external usb hdd on and off each time I reboot
[07:12] <MobsterLobster> 700 for a zip file that is vmware and ubuntu
[07:13] <Dr_willis> MobsterLobster,  where you gettting that from?
[07:13] <yknott> o so an "appliance"?
[07:13] <yknott> off of vmware?
[07:13] <yknott> .com
[07:13] <Dr_willis> there may be a vmware-appliance that is the preinstalled disrto
[07:13] <MobsterLobster> all i want to do is use Kubuntu not much else
[07:13] <Dr_willis> but that still needs the vmware-player
[07:14] <Dr_willis> vmware-server can create new vm sessions and let you isstall whatever os ya want in the sessions
[07:14] <MobsterLobster> nope i think all i need is player than
[07:14] <NightBird> apparently one of the recent updates didn't play nicely..
[07:14] <Dr_willis> the vmware-appliance is designed to use the player.. you may not be able to tweak it much
[07:15] <_6StringKng_> so I mounted the drive, how do i make it to where I can acces and not just root?
[07:15] <_6StringKng_> access*
[07:15] <MobsterLobster> noob question - if i use player will it reinstall the OS every time or will always be there
[07:16] <Dr_willis> the players 'runs' the premade sessions.
[07:16] <MobsterLobster> so with vmplayer i can install the OS from a CD? or will i need server?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> im not sure if you can 'install' the os using the player.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> I always use vmware-server
[07:17] <NightBird> er... you can install the OS from a cd assuming you get it to mount the cd in the virtual machine
[07:17] <Dr_willis> downloading a vmware-appluance is a 'preinstalled os'
[07:17] <yknott> i use vmware-server as well; with player you cannot create virtual machines, just use existing ones
[07:17] <MobsterLobster> can server create?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> ya could sort of make one.. buy editing/copying  an existing one. :)
[07:17] <NightBird> MobsterLobster: yeap
[07:17] <Dr_willis> server has a not of nice features.
[07:17] <MobsterLobster> so i will get server then will ask more
[07:18] <NightBird> Dr_willis: I'm assuming you mean lot instead of not, right?
[07:18] <NightBird> :P
[07:18] <Dr_willis> nah.. :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> i mean knot
[07:18] <astro1bill> how do log onto undernet in Konversation?
[07:18] <NightBird> so, I have a script that I want to execute on system boot(it's my firewall configuration script).  How do I get it to run?
[07:18] <yknott> yeah server can create; plus you could also log into server from another machine; run the virtual machines on a faster computer, but actually connect to them from a slower one
[07:19] <NightBird> astro1bill, have you added the server to the list of available networks?
[07:19] <astro1bill> how can I get a list of servers in konversation?
[07:19] <ForgeAus> if theres a vmware appliance its probably ubuntu but doesn't take much to kubuntu-ize it
[07:19] <Adydas> astro1bill: F2
[07:19] <Dr_willis> last vmware-appliance i saw for ubnuntu was an older version.
[07:19] <surgy> dr_willis: wanna look at something? and tell me what you think?
[07:20] <astro1bill> won't the program look for available servers and give me a list to choose from, like mIRC?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if its fast.. its 1 am here.. ready for zzzzzz...
[07:20] <MobsterLobster> the free appliance is 6.10
[07:20] <ForgeAus> konversation wasn't made like that astro1
[07:20] <ForgeAus> but you can probably do a websearch for irc servers
[07:20] <Dr_willis> astro1bill,  not all irc clients include all the irc servers out. :)
[07:20] <NightBird> astro1bill, mIRC comes with a list of irc servers, it doesn't search for them :P
[07:20] <Adydas> F@22222222222222
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> astro1bill, if you want that, try xchat
[07:20] <ForgeAus> plus theres probably irc servers even mIRC doesn't know about
[07:21] <surgy> dr_willis: another time then a game i made
[07:21] <ForgeAus> if you make one yourself for example
[07:21] <ForgeAus> anyone can run ircd, but that doesn't mean it will be on mIRC's list!
[07:21] <ForgeAus> Dr_Willis thats silly
[07:22] <Adydas> ffs astro1bill HIT f2 and add the server to the list
[07:22] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  :)
[07:22] <ForgeAus> I've never seen any *nix program that rivals IRC's functionality yet...
[07:22] <astro1bill> I can get some of the servers names from mIRC, but I can't figure out what to put in the server list edit box.  is it irc.undernet.com?
[07:22] <ForgeAus> grr mIRC sorry
[07:22] <Dr_willis> I find mIRC a boil on the backside of IRC.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> astro1bill, us.undernet.org
[07:22] <astro1bill> ah
[07:22] <Dr_willis> i rember when it came out with the 'color text' feature a few years back.. yea.......
[07:23] <ForgeAus> Dr_willis say what you like about it but I still think its an excellent client .... aside perhaps from the shareware aspect
[07:23] <ForgeAus> but then even X-chat for windows is shareware now
[07:23] <MobsterLobster> how much ram would Kubuntu virtual require
[07:23] <Dr_willis> and having to  explain to people 'why' a Linux client cant run their mirc 'scripts' and that its not real 'programing'
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> ForgeAus, which i hate
[07:23] <ForgeAus> personally I happen to like the colour feature!
[07:23] <Dr_willis> I use the Free versions of xchat for windows. :)
[07:23] <surgy> for windows..... are you a trader? lol j/k
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, self compiled?
[07:24] <ForgeAus> lol Dr_willis god point there
[07:24] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  theres several sites that have them
[07:24] <ForgeAus> about scripts
[07:24] <MobsterLobster> im on windozes using leafchat
[07:24] <Dr_willis> Plus - with xchat for windows and linux.. i can use the same config files for both.. so my channel/joins/aliasls are identical
[07:24] <ForgeAus> ironically many *nix clients are scriptable, but none seem to have much gui support for it
[07:25] <astro1bill> I'm really enjoying my new kubuntu computer.  this is a great os!
[07:25] <ForgeAus> astro awesome :)
[07:25] <posingaspopular> yes agreed
[07:26] <astro1bill> If I want to get an inexpensive printer for this computer, what is a good choice?
[07:26] <MobsterLobster> hows feisty going at the moment i last used it at the begining of jan
[07:26] <ForgeAus> hmmm does anyone know much about interix?
[07:26] <yknott> depends on if you want to print a lot
[07:26] <astro1bill> just occasional.
[07:26] <astro1bill> once or twice a day, maybe
[07:28] <astro1bill> unfortunately, I have two new (cheap) lexmarks sitting around, new in the box.  But I have not found suitable drivers for lexmark.  (probably since they are pos's and no one wants to write drivers for them!)
[07:29] <ForgeAus> will give some windows users a familiar interface
[07:29] <Dr_willis> never heard of it ForgeAus . :)
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> !interix
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about interix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> oh well
[07:32] <ForgeAus> heheh hitman its basically microsoft linux for windows!
[07:33] <ForgeAus> (erm that is microsoft services for unix) 200+mb download tho
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> ForgeAus, yeah, just googled it
[07:33] <surgy> forgeaus: still far from the original though right?
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> astro1bill, yeah lexmark support in linux is still pretty flaky
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> astro1bill, the cups site has a list of compatible printers if i remember right
[07:36] <ForgeAus> original? ... erm... its um the closest thing yet I've seen from microsoft to *nix
[07:38] <phabrissse> hi  everybody
[07:43] <bdragonmsl> I'm trying to install beryl via the script, but it won't let me do it under my user, and I don't know my root which it says I need to use to run the script.  Cany anyone help?
[07:44] <NightBird> I want a script to lock my current session.... how can I do that?
[07:44] <Adydas> sudo
[07:44] <astro1bill> I have a working panasonic kxp1124 dot matrix printer.  How do I load the ppd file to make it work?
[07:44] <bdragonmsl> tried that, didn't work
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> astro1bill, here's a link to a compatibility list for printers http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Anyone
[07:45] <NightBird> n/m, I found it...
[07:45] <bdragonmsl> "/bin/bash: if [ `whoami` != "root" ] ; then echo "You must run this script as root."; else cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/so: No such file or directory"
[07:47] <bdragonmsl> should I change root in the script to my username??
[07:47] <Adydas> bdragonmsl: sudo
[07:47] <_4strO> no
[07:47] <bdragonmsl> I did that.  It still comes up with the dialogue that I just displayed
[07:49] <_4strO> u should create the rep /etc/apt/so as root
[07:50] <bdragonmsl> I don't know the pwd for it
[07:51] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell bdragonmsl about root | bdragonmsl, see the private message from ubotu.
[07:51] <HymnToLife> (there is no root password by default)
[07:51] <_4strO> bdragonmsl: think u cant install beryl without root permissions
[07:52] <NightBird> there we go... suspend shuts down the network connections, locks the session, suspends the computer, then on awakening reopens the network connections
[07:52] <bdragonmsl> well, during install there wasn't a prompt for a pwd for root.  So I don't know it.
[07:53] <Adydas> change it
[07:53] <Adydas> bdragonmsl: sudo passwd root
[07:53] <Adydas> it will ask for one
[07:53] <Adydas> then ask for confirmation
[07:53] <Adydas> then use su and insert that password
[07:53] <Adydas> tadar, your root
[07:53] <_4strO> bdragonmsl: the root passwd is the the same as yours
[07:54] <HymnToLife> !root
[07:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:54] <HymnToLife> everyone, please read this
[07:54] <HymnToLife> there is _no_ root password
[07:54] <dsmith> !microsoft
[07:54] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:54] <dsmith> lol
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:55] <agabus> I'm running Ubuntu Edgy, and I'm going to install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package. just wondering how I'll access KDE after its installed? will i have an option at my login screen? or what?
[07:55] <dsmith> yes
[07:55] <dsmith> i run kubuntu
[07:55] <agabus> dsmith - k
[07:56] <dsmith> and install xubuntu / ubuntu desktops
[07:56] <dsmith> i just removed then over the weekwnd
[07:56] <dsmith> *weekend
[07:56] <agabus> dsmith - and will all the default kubuntu art, etc come with the kubuntu-desktop packages?
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> agabus, it'll install KDM which jumps into kde by default
[07:56] <cntb> agabus yes
[07:56] <bdragonmsl> sweetness, thanks for the help
[07:56] <agabus> hitmanWilly - and what if I want to go back to gnome?
[07:56] <cntb> np agabus
[07:56] <dsmith> just log off and login in gdm
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> agabus, it has a session selector
[07:57] <surgy> agabus: you can have both installed
[07:57] <agabus> k sweet
[07:57] <dsmith> i had kdm, gdm, xfce
[07:57] <surgy> man i gotta stop jumping in the middle of conversations :)
[07:57] <dsmith> lol
[07:57] <dsmith> :P
[07:57] <HymnToLife> dsmith, kde != kdm
[07:57] <astro1bill> well, that was certainly easier than I thought is would be.  The panansonic works perfectly!
[07:57] <HymnToLife> Gnome != gdm
[07:57] <dsmith> I know that!
[07:57] <agabus> how big will the kubuntu-desktop packages be?
[07:57] <dsmith> ~200mb
[07:57] <agabus> k
[07:58] <june_> !via
[07:58] <HymnToLife> including dependencies
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <dsmith> I just got office2003 running with crossover
[07:58] <june_> !unichrome
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unichrome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <HymnToLife> !fishing | june_
[07:58] <ubotu> june_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:59] <june_> HymnToLife: i tried two different ones, let it be
[07:59] <dsmith> anyone running fiesty?
[08:00] <HymnToLife> june_, just in case you were going to try more ;) it wouldn't have hurt to runthose two in private as well
[08:01] <june_> that is true
[08:01] <june_> either way, here goes an xorg restart
[08:10] <surgy> ok im hitting the sack good night and thnx for the interest in my game :)
[08:16] <bumzo> morning lovely kubuntu pple
[08:16] <bumzo> now ... i need help on mounting my ntfs drive
[08:16] <bumzo> any ideas please?
[08:16] <Jucato> !ntfs
[08:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:17] <bumzo> jucato ... iwas actually thinking abt u .. lol
[08:17] <bumzo> how have u been?
[08:17] <Jucato> doing ok. not really knowledgeable in mounting ntfs :)
[08:18] <bumzo> what is sda1?
[08:18] <bumzo> !sda
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <SolidSource> sda is your first drive....sda1 is the first partion on the first drive
[08:20] <Gtwy> any projected release date for feisty stable?
[08:20] <SolidSource> april
[08:21] <Jucato> !feisty
[08:21] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:22] <ForgeAus> !subverison
[08:22] <ForgeAus> !subversion
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subverison - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[08:23] <Gtwy> anyone in here played with xubuntu yet?
[08:24] <Cugel> Maybe try #xubuntu? ;-)
[08:24] <Gtwy> Cugel: meh im just looking around kubuntu's website... im actually thinking about setting up black box
[08:24] <Cugel> Great idea, really.
[08:25] <bumzo> sourcelist ... how do i mount it?
[08:25] <bumzo> !bumzo
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bumzo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <Jucato> bumzo: you don't mount your sources.list
[08:26] <bumzo> nooo jucato, sourclist is a user her e...am asking hin how to mount my sda drive
[08:26] <Jucato> aah
[08:26] <bumzo> ubotu knows nothing abt me ... lol
[08:26] <Jucato> hm...
[08:26] <SolidSource>  :-S
[08:26] <Jucato> there's no sourcelist user here
[08:26] <bumzo> oops ... i mean solid source
[08:26] <bumzo> hey solidsource .... u there
[08:27] <SolidSource> maybe
[08:27] <bumzo> how do i mount my sda drive solidsource
[08:28] <SolidSource> system control >> advanced >> Disk and Filesystem
[08:29] <SolidSource> if its a ntfs...may have to install ntfs-3g
[08:30] <SolidSource> or whatever its called
[08:32] <ForgeAus> is easyubuntu good?
[08:32] <ForgeAus> I think I got all the packages I would need/want from there already anyway...
[08:32] <SolidSource> !easyubuntu
[08:32] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:32] <SolidSource> hmm
[08:32] <ForgeAus> sounds like automatix
[08:33] <ForgeAus> and automatix is notoriously unstable
[08:33] <SolidSource> easyubuntu can cause just as many problems as automatix...they are generally the same thing
[08:33] <bumzo> how do i do that solidsource
[08:33] <ForgeAus> (I personally didn't have much problem with it)
[08:33] <SolidSource> ForgeAus: me either
[08:33] <SolidSource> bumzo: do what?
[08:33] <ForgeAus> but its not like I installed the whole gamete of apps it points to
[08:34] <bumzo> from drive porperties it gives me an error...
[08:34] <Jucato> O.o
[08:34] <SolidSource> ok
[08:34] <HymnToLife> !ops | please ban the dude
[08:34] <ubotu> please ban the dude: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[08:34] <bumzo> Could not change permissions for /media/sda1.
[08:34] <Jucato> HymnToLife: he's gone
[08:34] <HymnToLife> so he doesn't come back :)
[08:34] <Jucato> if he does, we'll be ready
[08:35] <nalioth> Jucato: poke me if he returns, please
[08:35] <nalioth> Jucato: don't wait, just PM me
[08:35] <SolidSource> !ntfs-3g > bumzo
[08:35] <Jucato> nalioth: should I ban him or something?
[08:37] <MobsterLobster> Jucato u a mod?
[08:39] <SolidSource> either that or he could be that gorilla off of George of the Jungle
[08:40] <MobsterLobster> lol
[08:40] <MobsterLobster> if i look his name is probably on the Kubuntu site about IRC
[08:41] <SolidSource> my answer is funner
[08:42] <Jucato> then truth is less funner
[08:42] <Jucato> :P
[08:42] <SolidSource> oh come on...I was calling you smart....hairy but smart
[08:43] <Tm_T> Jucato: You, an op? Aww how cute.
[08:44] <Jucato> Tm_T: pfft :P
[08:44] <Jucato> you're one to speak, oh unknown one :D
[08:44] <Tm_T> Jucato: You're welcome.
[08:46] <morghanphoenix> what's the terminal options for setting the size of the window when it opens, making a shortcut in the kmenu for a terminal app.
[08:56] <kraut> moin
[09:09] <geniusvicks> My apt-get isnt working at all. Plz check this http://www.pastebin.ca/372749
[09:10] <deathnote> hi.. when i plug in a new pci card after installing kubuntu
[09:10] <deathnote> will it auto detect?
[09:11] <deathnote> should i be able to see lspci the card?
[09:11] <deathnote> or do i have to do something
[09:11] <underdog5004> it should autodetect
[09:11] <deathnote> should it be show under lspci ?
[09:11] <deathnote> i suspecting my pci card is spoil
[09:11] <deathnote> because it doesn't list out
[09:11] <underdog5004> what is the card?
[09:11] <deathnote> slot 3
[09:12] <underdog5004> What is the cards function?
[09:12] <deathnote> i have 3 slots for pci.. 3 tv cards
[09:12] <deathnote> but lspci shows
[09:12] <deathnote> 0000:01:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[09:12] <deathnote> 0000:01:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[09:12] <deathnote> the 3rd one is missing
[09:12] <underdog5004> oooh...I don't know...maybe the card isn't supported...are they all the same?
[09:12] <deathnote> they're all the same cards
[09:12] <deathnote> i'll try to switch their position now
[09:13] <deathnote> anyway, linux suppose to auto detect it right? no need to modprobe or whatever?
[09:13] <underdog5004> right
[09:13] <underdog5004> especially if the others were auto detected
[09:13] <deathnote> what about the positions of the slots?
[09:13] <deathnote> its fixed?
[09:13] <underdog5004> I don't think it matters...
[09:13] <underdog5004> udev is run on startup to detect all hardware
[09:13] <underdog5004> !udev
[09:13] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[09:14] <geniusvicks> My apt-get isnt working at all. Plz check this http://www.pastebin.ca/372749
[09:15] <incorrect> what alternatives are there to the gimp in kde?
[09:15] <_vge> !kate
[09:16] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[09:16] <_vge> hups
[09:16] <deathnote> i mean.. slot 0 1 2.. = video 0 1 2
[09:16] <_vge> !krita
[09:16] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 2542 kB, installed size 7932 kB
[09:16] <deathnote> if i only put slot 0 and 2, does it mean video 0 and 2 only ?
[09:16] <underdog5004> yeah, if you don't have a video card in slot 1, you won't get video from it...der
[09:17] <deathnote> ok.. now i switched number 3 to 2
[09:17] <deathnote> and it shows
[09:17] <deathnote> 0000:01:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[09:17] <deathnote> 0000:01:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[09:17] <deathnote> does it mean the 2nd card is spoiled?
[09:17] <underdog5004> sounds like a bad slot to me
[09:17] <deathnote> bad slot or bad card?
[09:17] <underdog5004> slot...did you try putting a card you know works into the doubtful slot?
[09:18] <deathnote> well..i switched the 2nd with the 3rd
[09:18] <deathnote> 01:01.0 just now.. and now is 01:02.0
[09:18] <deathnote> 01:01.0 = slot ?
[09:18] <underdog5004> I believe so
[09:19] <deathnote> i guess its the card..nvrmind i got extra cards.. i'll take out card 2 now
[09:19] <underdog5004> ok, have fun with that box...it sounds like fun to me!
[09:21] <deathnote> oh yeah
[09:21] <deathnote> its a bad card
[09:21] <deathnote> 0000:01:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[09:21] <deathnote> 0000:01:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors: Unknown device 7034 (rev 01)
[09:21] <deathnote> 0000:01:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[09:21] <deathnote> unknown device?
[09:22] <deathnote> why is it unknown device
[09:24] <deathnote> ?????? why is it unknown device now?
[09:24] <deathnote> how to instal it
[09:27] <deathnote> anyone can help?
[09:27] <deathnote> how to install a new pci card
[09:28] <Lynoure> deathnote: I'm not promising anything, but what card?
[09:32] <deathnote> Lynoure: its a lifeview philips
[09:33] <incorrect> wow krita is nowhere near as good as the gimp
[09:33] <incorrect> is there anything else?
[09:33] <deathnote> the problem is that, why is it i replace a same card, and i have to reinstall everythinbg else>
[09:35] <Lynoure> deathnote: That's a display card or something else?
[09:41] <_vge> incorrect: your searching alternative to photoshop?
[09:41] <jbr> DG
[09:41] <incorrect> _vge: yes
[09:42] <_vge> incorrect: well, gimp is best u can get i think , what's the problem with it?
[09:42] <incorrect> _vge: just i wanted something qt based
[09:42] <incorrect> but i think my hope for something like that is running out
[09:43] <_vge> i cant say i know em all, but gimp has the best options by far from the ones i have tried
[09:43] <incorrect> me too, its just gtk based :(
[09:47] <_vge> incorrect: u prolly have searched apt-get under graphics section?
[09:48] <incorrect> yes
[09:48] <incorrect> i found inkscape, but thats not what i want, and krita
[09:49] <ubuntu> alguien habla espaol?
[09:49] <incorrect> its not such a big deal,  i've reinstalled the gimp
[09:49] <_vge> ok, gl
[09:50] <admin___> #Tasikmalaya
[09:50] <incorrect> ty
[09:50] <espa> alguien habla espaol??
[09:51] <yaccin> !esp | espa
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <yaccin> !es | espa
[09:51] <ubotu> espa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:51] <espa> thanks
[09:51] <ackbahr> Hello! I misconfigured my keyboard; how can I correct this?
[09:52] <yaccin> ackbahr: systemsettings
[09:52] <ackbahr> thanks!
[09:54] <ackbahr> yaccin: Yes, but I actually can't seem to find where to configure the layout, I only find things about shortcuts....
[09:55] <yaccin> ackbahr: systemsettings > personal > regional settings & language
[09:57] <MobsterLobster> this is a little offtopic but im trying to install VMserver so i can use Kubuntu on a VM in windows but its asking for a serial number. where do i get 1 it is shown as a free product
[09:58] <yaccin> MobsterLobster: vmware server?
[09:58] <MobsterLobster> key for VMware server not Kubuntu
[09:58] <MamanN> hello all, please help i want to install epson lq-2180 on my kubuntu, but the driver isnt listed on setup wizard
[09:58] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: you just register, and they e-mail you a key. registration is free
[09:58] <ackbahr> yaccin: So my question is different : how can I add types of keyboard in the layout list? :)
[09:59] <Jucato> ackbahr: System Settings -> Language and Regional -> Keyboard Layout
[09:59] <yaccin> ackbahr: reginalo settings & language > keyboard layout > enable keyboard layouts
[10:00] <ackbahr> Jucato & yaccin : I did this, but there's no layout in the list
[10:01] <yaccin> ackbahr: there should be a lot of layouts in the top-right dropdown-list
[10:01] <MobsterLobster> thx Jucato it worked
[10:01] <ackbahr> Yes, but there aren't
[10:01] <MamanN> hmmm :'(
[10:03] <mrbig> anyone around?
[10:03] <yaccin> mrbig: depends on your problem
[10:03] <yaccin> ^^
[10:04] <mrbig> trying to run the apt-get install beryl
[10:04] <mrbig> and getting all sorts of these errors
[10:04] <yaccin> !beryl | mrbig
[10:04] <ubotu> mrbig: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <yaccin> theres also #beryl or the beryl-project.org website with wiki etc
[10:04] <mrbig> Reading package lists... Done
[10:04] <mrbig> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:04] <mrbig> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:04] <mrbig> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:05] <mrbig> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:05] <ackbahr> mrbig: I've got problems with beryl, too... Won't work properly
[10:05] <mrbig> or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:05] <MobsterLobster> Jucato can u help me install kubuntu on my VMserver?
[10:05] <mrbig> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:05] <mrbig> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[10:05] <mrbig> that package should be filed.
[10:05] <mrbig> The following information may help resolve the situation:
[10:05] <mrbig> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:05] <mrbig>   beryl: Depends: beryl-core but it is not going to be installed
[10:05] <mrbig>          Depends: libberylsettings0 but it is not going to be installed
[10:05] <mrbig>          Depends: libberyldecoration0 but it is not going to be installed
[10:05] <mrbig>          Depends: beryl-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[10:05] <mrbig>          Depends: beryl-settings but it is not going to be installed
[10:05] <mrbig>          Depends: emerald but it is not going to be installed or
[10:05] <yaccin> !paste | mrbig
[10:05] <ubotu> mrbig: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:06] <mrbig>                   aquamarine but it is not going to be installed or
[10:06] <mrbig>                   heliodor but it is not going to be installed or
[10:06] <mrbig>                   yawd but it is not installable or
[10:06] <mrbig>                   compiz-gnome but it is not going to be installed
[10:06] <mrbig>          Depends: beryl-manager but it is not going to be installed
[10:06] <mrbig> E: Broken packages
[10:06] <mrbig> ive looked at that page
[10:06] <mrbig> in and out
[10:06] <MobsterLobster> can anybody help me install Kubuntu on my new VMware server?
[10:06] <Jucato> mrbig: please use pastebin next time
[10:07] <yaccin> mrbig: youve added the repo to your sources.list? and did a apt-get update?
[10:07] <Jucato> MobsterLobster: sorry, not familiar with it
[10:07] <MobsterLobster> eep
[10:07] <yaccin> are you sure vmware-server is free?
[10:07] <yaccin> i thought only player is free
[10:07] <yaccin> ...
[10:08] <MobsterLobster> i have no knowedge what soever with VMs so i think i will get my friend to burn his VM appliance of Ubuntu and KDEize it
[10:08] <MobsterLobster> yes its free coz regeristering worked
[10:12] <yaccin> anyone knows how to set a tab for the full page in openoffice?
[10:14] <ackbahr> yaccin: Tabs work line by line, so you have to select all the lines and set this (either with the rulers, either with format>paragraph>....)
[10:14] <yaccin> -_- this sucks
[10:15] <ackbahr> Well, same in Office, isn't it?
[10:16] <reldruh> hello. I just installed ndiswrapper and it's working wonderfully for the most part. The only weird things are that whenever I'm using the wireless connection, certain applications (amarok and katapult, for example) won't start at all. Even when I run them from the cli, there's no output, it just hangs. Does anybody know why or how to fix it?
[10:17] <Jucato> !openoffice
[10:17] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[10:18] <Jucato> yaccin: ^^^
[10:18] <yaccin> :P
[10:18] <yaccin> ackbahr: as far as i know you can set tabs for the whole page in openoffice...
[10:22] <ubuntu>   I have Redhat + win2k + win98.. Could I replace Redhat with Kubuntu??
[10:37] <deathnote> !hardware
[10:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:37] <deathnote> !linux
[10:37] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[10:40] <_al_> hello
[10:40] <_al_> anyone using 64-bit kubuntu and skype?
[10:40] <fannagoganna> !unix
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <yaccin> _al_: whats not working? ^^
[10:49] <_al_> yaccin: you use these?
[10:52] <yaccin> no but maybe i can help :)
[10:52] <yaccin> i know skype 64 bit makes problem on windows
[10:52] <yaccin> but not the "buisiness" version
[10:52] <yaccin> i dont if theres the same version for linux
[10:53] <_al_> when I try execute skype I get error that skype (binary execute file) cannot be found
[10:53] <_al_> I'm in directory where skype-binary is and try execute ./skype
[10:53] <_al_> same problem is with other 32-bit binaries
[10:54] <_al_> e.g. wengophone
[10:55] <deathnote> !ati
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:55] <_al_> yaccin: you can see this problem with live-cd too
[10:55] <_al_> 64-bit
[10:55] <_al_> or someone else
[10:55] <charlesHKG> how can i connect my kubuntu machine with a windows home network?
[10:55] <josh1234> question: im about to install kubuntu. what's the best partitioning scheme to us4e? a primary for /boot? a primary for / ? a logical for /home? a logical for /swap?
[10:56] <dromer> hi, how can I make thunderbird open on startup? (preferably on desktop #4)
[10:56] <josh1234> charleshkg, use samba !samba
[10:56] <josh1234> !samba
[10:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:57] <yaccin> _al_: hmm im sorry, i dont have 64 bit :/
[10:57] <yaccin> charlesHKG: in konqueror adress bar type: \\$ip_to_windows_pc
[11:04] <josh1234> question: when does one want to use a 'logical' vs. 'primary' partition exactly? is there a hard and fast rule?
[11:05] <bumzo> !frostwire
[11:05] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:05] <bumzo> !bandwith tips
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bandwith tips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <bumzo> !bandwidth tips
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bandwidth tips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <sandro__> (danger: bad english ahead) hi all .. im still kinda new to this .. i installed cups to print.. applications like kate, konqueror, ... can easy print ... but firefox only "knows" PostScript/default .. no other Printers show up in dialog .. where can i like activate these additional printers that ff can find them ?!
[11:18] <charlesHKG> is there an open sourse version for morpheus??
[11:21] <Sn00p> hii
[11:21] <Sn00p> someone can help me??
[11:23] <Sn00p> ppl i try to install xgl+beryl etc, but not works:S, my graphic card is a ATI MOBILITY X1400...
[11:23] <charlesHKG> ask the question Sn00p
[11:23] <Sn00p> can you help me??
[11:24] <yaccin> !beryl | Sn00p
[11:24] <ubotu> Sn00p: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:26] <Sn00p> but i have install drivers and a following how to's about the instalation,but don t works
[11:27] <yaccin> then ask in #beryl or the beryl forum
[11:27] <Sn00p> ok thanks:)
[11:30] <ackbahr> Can't get this bloody kboard to work! :(
[11:31] <renato> hi, can somebody give me a hand? postfix/smtpd keeps looking for   a  Berkeley db, I have no  Berkeley db, in the configuration file /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf I told it to look in a postgres database, but with no luck
[11:33] <karmikaze> hrm ive lost my irssi session inside a screen. when i bring up screen -dr irssi, i just get the terminal now. but i see the irssi proc is still alive and well somewhere..
[11:33] <karmikaze> i think i may have done a ctrl+a+c  anyone know how i might get irssi reattached to the screen
[11:50] <Razgriz>  can someone say me if geforce go 7600 is supported in latest drivers from nvidia?
[11:50] <waylandbill> Razgriz: I would think so.
[11:51] <Razgriz>  then why after I install them and change xorg.conf driver to nvidia a get error of xserver: no screens?
[11:52] <Razgriz> *I
[11:52] <riccardo_> ciao a tutti ho un problema con kubuntu
[11:53] <riccardo_> mi collego tramite un modem router e non capisco perch ogni volta che riavvio nel file resolv.conf come name server si mette il gateway predefinito 192.168.1.1
[11:53] <riccardo_> e di fatto se non lo cambio con il dns giusto non mi fa navigare
[11:54] <riccardo_> io edito il file come root ma poi al riavvio si rimette il 192.168.1.1
[11:54] <riccardo_> sapete come posso fare?
[11:54] <Jucato> !it | riccardo_
[11:54] <ubotu> riccardo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:55] <riccardo_> ups sorry
[11:55] <riccardo_> so i will speak in english
[11:55] <riccardo_> I have a problem with my modem router and kubuntu
[11:56] <riccardo_> exactly in the file named resolv.conf because kubuntu put like default nameserver the ip 192.168.1.1
[11:56] <riccardo_> that is the default gateway that i use
[11:57] <riccardo_> and everytime I must edit this file with the correct dns of my provider
[11:57] <riccardo_> and I edit this file like root and i save it but everytime that i restart there's again the bad dns
[11:58] <riccardo_> any suggest?
[11:58] <riccardo_> :(
[11:59] <riccardo_> ...:::::(
[12:00] <Razgriz> why after I install latest driver for graphic card and change xorg.conf driver option to nvidia I get error of xserver: no screens?
[12:00] <waylandbill> Razgriz: pastebin the Xorg.0.log that is made when you get the no screens error.
[12:01] <Razgriz> where can I find that log?
[12:02] <waylandbill> Razgriz: /var/log. sorry
[12:02] <riccardo_> :(
[12:02] <riccardo_> who can help me please?
[12:03] <waylandbill> riccardo_: you're going to have to set up the dhcp server to send your computer the correct info in your dhcp lease
[12:03] <bumzo_> jucato?
[12:03] <waylandbill> riccardo_: otherwise, you need to set to a static address. The resolv.conf is rewritten when by the dhcp info.
[12:03] <bumzo_> any idea on how to mount a drive on sda1?
[12:04] <riccardo_> hi waylandbill thanks for your answer but I already set a static ip
[12:04] <riccardo_> :(
[12:04] <waylandbill> bumzo_: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt (or /mnt being the mountpoint directory of your choice)
[12:07] <waylandbill> riccardo_: you can set it in control settings, network settings, routes and domain name system. Don't know if it will change your problem. I'd start there.
[12:07] <riccardo_> ok i will try now ^^
[12:08] <renato> hi, can somebody give me a hand? postfix/smtpd keeps looking for   a  Berkeley db, I have no  Berkeley db, in the configuration file /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf I told it to look in a postgres database, but with no luck
[12:09] <Lynoure> renato: Berkeley db and postgres db are not directly exchangable. Does postfix support postgres database too?
[12:10] <renato> yes, postfix pop3/imap work correctly (currently) using postgres, the only problem I have is smtpd which seems to **really** wish to use barkley db (may be he's in love)
[12:11] <Lynoure> renato: I mostly use exim4 myself, so in that case I probably am not much help.
[12:11] <renato> I have set up postfix for handling virtual alias via postfixadmin
[12:11] <renato> and postgres
[12:12] <renato> Lynoure, tx anyway
[12:14] <renato> riccardo, is it possible you still ahve your card set for automatic dhcp and then you went to modify your ip/resolv.conf by hands?
[12:15] <waylandbill> renato: riccardo said that he set it static.
[12:16] <Lynoure> renato: this looks vaguely relevant: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2005-01/0350.html  seen it already?
[12:17] <renato> Lynoure, yes, I saw it, he is a guy with my same problem,(so I am not alone) but I could not find a follow up to that posting
[12:17] <Lynoure> renato: click on the 'thread'
[12:18] <renato> waylandbill, I know, but I know also the way my fellow italian speak english, so if you do a "direct translation from  spaghettin english" that "i set" could mean he went on the file and changed the ip address himself
[12:19] <anees> hi waylandbill
[12:19] <waylandbill> renato: ok. confusion is always possible. :-)
[12:19] <waylandbill> Hi anees
[12:19] <anees> i need to download kubuntu-desktop locally
[12:19] <anees> what will be the command
[12:19] <anees> actually i want to install it on my home pc
[12:19] <anees> there is no internet
[12:19] <renato> waylandbill, yes, trust me, especially for us that we do language multitasking :)
[12:20] <anees> i want to download it and install it at homw
[12:20] <anees> home
[12:20] <anees> is there any way to download kubuntu-desktop for ubuntu?
[12:20] <waylandbill> you can tell apt-get to download only.
[12:20] <anees> tell me the complete command
[12:20] <anees> plz
[12:20] <waylandbill> one se.
[12:20] <waylandbill> sec
[12:20] <Forge> yes
[12:21] <Forge> just use synaptic
[12:21] <Razgriz> waylandbill: ok here is that log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7625/
[12:21] <Forge> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <Forge> (from the command line)
[12:21] <Forge> or synaptic is the gui way
[12:21] <waylandbill> add a -d and it only downloads the deb
[12:21] <Forge> just find the kubuntu-desktop package and mark it for installation
[12:21] <anees> i need to only download
[12:22] <anees> not install at the local machine
[12:22] <waylandbill> Forge: the destination is a internetless computer
[12:22] <anees> i tried but failed
[12:22] <anees> :(
[12:22] <anees> yes waylandbill you r right
[12:22] <Forge> wayland then he needs to find the .debs somewhere?
[12:22] <anees> i don't have internet at home pc
[12:23] <Forge> apt get will still work its just the sources.list that needs to be modified
[12:23] <anees> plz help me
[12:23] <anees> or tell me the url
[12:23] <anees> i'll download via wget
[12:23] <waylandbill> anees: you can then dpkg them manually unless you transfer the apt database too.
[12:24] <anees> how???
[12:25] <Razgriz> waylandbill: ok here is that log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7625/ could you look at it?
[12:25] <waylandbill> anees: everything is stored in /var/cache/apt
[12:25] <waylandbill> Razgriz: ok. one sec.
[12:26] <anees> yes I checked in /var/cache/apt but kubunt-dektop file is 11.4 k
[12:26] <waylandbill> anees: it's just a virtual package. You need all the packages that it installs too.
[12:26] <anees> ok
[12:27] <anees> so plz tell me the method how i  install kubuntu desktop on my home pc
[12:28] <ForgeAus> is linux bsd compatible?
[12:28] <ForgeAus> I know the reverse is - at least in part - true
[12:28] <waylandbill> Razgriz: wasn't very descriptive: (EE) No drivers available.
[12:30] <anees> waylandbill is there any way plz
[12:30] <Razgriz> waylandbill: ok so how should I install that driver? because I thought that I installed him already
[12:30] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: many projects will compile on both.
[12:30] <waylandbill> Razgriz: you followed the wiki instructions for nvidia binary driver?
[12:31] <Razgriz> waylandbill: I used script listed here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[12:31] <ForgeAus> if I was looking at a portage system Gentoo would be closer to bsd than kubuntu right?
[12:32] <anees> waylandbill i m still waiting
[12:32] <anees> plz help me
[12:33] <waylandbill> anees:you'll need to find each package that kubuntu-desktop would install. or maybe easier would be to grab the live cd and go that route
[12:33] <anees> i have kubuntu cd too
[12:33] <anees> how to install kubuntu desktop from kubuntu cd
[12:33] <waylandbill> Razgriz: I used from here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:34] <waylandbill> anees: you can add that disc to the apt sources temporarily then
[12:34] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: in the sense that they both go from source.
[12:35] <anees> ok
[12:35] <anees> which files should be added to apt sources
[12:35] <Razgriz> waylandbill: so how should I install that driver?
[12:36] <user__> hi all
[12:36] <waylandbill> Razgriz: I haven't looked at the howto from the beryl site yet.
[12:36] <Stevo> I need help with kubuntu
[12:37] <waylandbill> Razgriz: I would try get the driver working without beryl first though. definately.
[12:37] <Razgriz> waylandbill: ok I will try that
[12:38] <Stevo> 1 - I dont want a user password at setup , how to avoid it 2 - I want to setup a new application 3 - I want to login as root with su but I am asked a root password,a password I didnt set ;
[12:38] <waylandbill> Razgriz: I'm not sure why they list a special repo for the nvidia driver. I thought it was in official ones.
[12:39] <waylandbill> !sudo > Stevo
[12:40] <waylandbill> Stevo: I wouldn't put no password for your user, but would put a convenience login if all you want is not to need to enter a password locally at boot.
[12:40] <Razgriz> waylandbill: hm there is second method I will try that one this time
[12:42] <Stevo> convenience password ? how to ?
[12:43] <waylandbill> control center, system admin, login manager, convenience.
[12:44] <waylandbill> that will allow you to select a user to automatically be logged in at boot.
[12:45] <waylandbill> !apt | Stevo
[12:45] <ubotu> Stevo: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:47] <Stevo> and also,I am getting no audio output of amarok of my playlist
[12:54] <razgriz> waylandbill: I have problem with installing that driver I cant run command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:55] <waylandbill> razgriz: you want /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:03] <_eMaX_> yo
[01:18] <jack111> hi there, how and where can i get a del.icio.us add on for the konqueror like in the firefox in windows?
[01:19] <razgriz> waylandbill: ok I hope that now I have corectly installed that driver
[01:20] <waylandbill> razgriz: good deal.
[01:21] <razgriz> waylandbill: well, I can run with nvidia in my xorg.cong so I will try add beryl
[01:22] <velle> eMaX: Which ftp daemon do you recommend?
[01:22] <velle> eMaX: I have installed vsftpd
[01:23] <smoze> how can i reinstall display drivers? (nvidia)
[01:25] <eMaX> proftpd
[01:25] <razgriz> waylandbiil: yessssssssssssssssssssssss its working
[01:25] <razgriz> waylandbiil: thanks for help
[01:25] <eMaX> ne1 I keep getting the following error every now and then on the command line: "bash: echo: write error: Broken pipe"
[01:26] <jack111> hey waylandbill thank you too i reinstalled and now even the wireless works, do you knowhow and where can i get a del.icio.us add on for the konqueror like in the firefox in windows?
[01:26] <eMaX> brb
[01:28] <waylandbill> jack111: nope. sorry. never used del.icio.us
[01:30] <n8k99> jack there is a del.icio.us add in teh minitools
[01:31] <n8k99> jack111 Tools > Minitools
[01:32] <jack111> n8k99 thanks, where is tools subcategorized in kde?
[01:32] <n8k99> jack111 that's in konqueror
[01:33] <n8k99> i think that they come from kdeaddons or kdeextra
[01:34] <n8k99> there is also a del.icio.us add-on that can be found on kde-apps.org
[01:35] <razgriz> waylandbiil: one more question how can add decoriation to windows?
[01:35] <jack111> n8k99 i saw that but it didnt really work for me, i try the minitool then, thanks
[01:35] <liviux> hi all. does anyone know how I can read DVVD
[01:35] <liviux> dvd?
[01:35] <thomax_> liviux: libdvdcss libdvdread
[01:35] <waylandbill> !dvd
[01:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:36] <waylandbill> razgriz: did you get beryl installed? it has configuration for window decorations.
[01:36] <liviux> I've installed libdvdread but I dont' know...I will read in the desktop giude thank you all!
[01:37] <ForgeAus> where do I go to look for a program that can edit the partition table but not mess with the filesystem?
[01:37] <razgriz> waylandbiil: yes I see that option but when I enable it nothing happens
[01:37] <thomax_> can't qtparted do that
[01:38] <razgriz> waylandbiil: I should use aquamarine right?
[01:39] <waylandbill> razgriz: I've used emerald myself. make sure beryl is the window manager and not kwin.
[01:39] <razgriz> waylandbiil: it is I can see efects and other stuff
[01:40] <waylandbill> oh. try emerald and select a theme. see if it changes to that theme.
[01:40] <caris_mere> I want to report a crash for Kontact, but I need the Version.  Can I find this without loading it?
[01:46] <thomax_> !dist-upgrade
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <incorrect> is there a tool to lift text from a pdf?
[01:51] <waylandbill> incorrect: there is something for ghostscript (pdftotext I think) that would do it. No method is perfect though.
[01:51] <incorrect> ty
[01:54] <Jucato> incorrect: you can select some text from pdf's using kpdf too, if that's what you meant
[01:54] <waylandbill> incorrect: be allocate time to proofread any pdf to text conversion.
[01:54] <incorrect> Jucato: yes, but i only seem to be able to get an image of the text
[01:55] <waylandbill> sometimes text can be selected. It depends if the page has been rendered into text or graphically. The graphic page would require text capture first.
[01:55] <incorrect> waylandbill: good point! thanks
[01:55] <incorrect> i am not too fussy if its wrong
[01:56] <waylandbill> IIRC, adobe's site or another one offered to capture the text of graphical rendered pages, but was limited to one page or something.
[01:56] <Jucato> incorrect: if the pdf was rendered into text, as waylandbill pointed out, once you select a group of text (using a selection box that looks like your selecting files/folders), a popup will appear telling you how many characters you have selected
[01:56] <incorrect> ah
[01:57] <incorrect> im blind
[01:57] <Jucato> incorrect: atlernatively, a quick search in Adept or apt-get for "pdf" will yield dozens of PDF tools that will probably help you
[01:58] <waylandbill> basically the process is the same as OCR so the document has to have good dpi at the very least for any capture tools to pick up the text.
[01:58] <incorrect> yeah i have found them all
[01:58] <incorrect> thank you so much ! :) i have pulled out all the images too
[01:58] <Jucato> :P
[01:59] <incorrect> serious :) i couldn't see what i wanted,  always when its right in front of you can you not see it
[02:01] <ForgeAus> Jucato whats the boot process for Kubuntu after loading the kernel from grub?
[02:01] <ForgeAus> what part of it actually prompts kubuntu to start kdm?
[02:02] <Jucato>  /etc/init.d/kdm ?
[02:02] <Jucato> incorrect: we usually can't see immediately what's under our noses :D
[02:02] <ForgeAus> hmmm thats there
[02:03] <ForgeAus> so why does it boot into TTY instead of kdm?
[02:04] <Jucato> ForgeAus: login to  tty, type startx
[02:04] <ForgeAus> yeah I do
[02:04] <ForgeAus> every time
[02:04] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: tecnically, I think it is /etc/rc3.d/S13kdm
[02:04] <Jucato> might be an X issue
[02:04] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:04] <Ace2016> can someone help me with git
[02:04] <ForgeAus> yup thats there too
[02:04] <Ace2016> i'm trying to get xgl from a git repo
[02:05] <Ace2016> i think thats what git does
[02:05] <waylandbill> probably X problem as jucato said
[02:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: so when you type "startx", you're able to get into KDE?
[02:05] <ForgeAus> well actually what I do instead of startx
[02:05] <ForgeAus> I login
[02:05] <Ace2016> http://pastebin.co.uk/10991
[02:05] <Ace2016> Thats the error
[02:05] <ForgeAus> I I type sudo -i
[02:05] <Jucato> Ace2016: git, like svn and cvs, allows you to download a "snapshot" of the source code
[02:05] <Ace2016> what odo i do
[02:05] <ForgeAus> then run kdm manually
[02:06] <Ace2016> Jucato: what do i do with that error?
[02:06] <ForgeAus> so startx doesn't actually say anything
[02:06] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what happens when you "startx" as a normal user?
[02:06] <ForgeAus> not entirely sure do I have to logout to try it?
[02:06] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: you'd have to stop kdm to try it.
[02:06] <_eMaX_> re
[02:06] <Jucato> Ace2016: you'd have to ask the guys from Beryl or Git
[02:07] <ForgeAus> how do you stop kdm?
[02:07] <Ace2016> ok
[02:07] <ForgeAus> from within kdm?
[02:07] <ForgeAus> erm sorry within kde anyhow
[02:07] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you have to log out, login to a tty, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[02:07] <ForgeAus> isn't kdm meant to be running in the b/g ?
[02:07] <_eMaX_> all: when I login to kde I keep getting a yellow hint that an application had previously crashed. I am very uninterested. Actually whether or not I click "ignore", the same message keeps reappearing at the next logon. Is there a way to get rid of this functionality?
[02:07] <ForgeAus> Jucato I'll try it manually next time I reset but I'm not going ot reset now just to try that
[02:08] <Jucato> _eMaX_: it would help if you read which application has crashed or why
[02:08] <Jucato> ForgeAus: sure. do it at your convenient time
[02:08] <ForgeAus> thanx for your help anyway I'll get back to you with what it tells me - if anything
[02:08] <_eMaX_> well yes it is evolution, and it was intended to crash :)
[02:08] <_eMaX_> in fact it was killed...
[02:08] <ForgeAus> using startx instead of running kdm as root
[02:08] <Jucato> _eMaX_: you have evolution installed, set to autostart, but crashes at each login?
[02:08] <_eMaX_> no
[02:09] <ForgeAus> btw just curious am I meant to be able to log in as root?
[02:09] <_eMaX_> I ran it a while ago (2 days ago) and it crashed / was killed.
[02:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: on Kubuntu? no
[02:09] <_eMaX_> the message reappears noneteless
[02:09] <ForgeAus> ahh thats interesting
[02:09] <ForgeAus> so you MUST sudo for root?
[02:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: not login graphically as root. but kdm needs to be start with studo
[02:09] <Jucato> !sudo | ForgeAus
[02:09] <ubotu> ForgeAus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:10] <Jucato> everything you need to know ^^^
[02:10] <ForgeAus> hehe thats what I"m afraid of... everything I need to know but no extras I might wanna know :)
[02:10] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the extras are there too
[02:10] <ForgeAus> thanx
[02:11] <_eMaX_> Jucato: and I really don't care about evolution crashing; in fact I kill it using evolution --force-shutdown at every start, as its subprocesses keep dying from time to time when using the exchange connector. I just don't want to be remembered of the fact that it crashed, because it did on purpose
[02:12] <bxnp> what is the command do bring up the panel cause its gone on my system
[02:12] <Jucato> bxnp: Alt+F2, "kicker"
[02:12] <bxnp> could not run the specified command Jucato
[02:13] <Jucato> bxnp: without the quotes
[02:13] <bxnp> i did
[02:13] <Jucato> O.o
[02:13] <Jucato> no capital letters? just plain kicker
[02:13] <Jucato> ah ok.. hm..
[02:13] <Jucato> Alt+F2, dcop kicker kicker restart
[02:13] <Jucato> then Ctrl+Esc and check if the kicker process is running
[02:15] <bxnp> nope kicker is not running afther i did the command Jucato
[02:15] <bxnp> the strange thing is i cant find kicker on my system anymore
[02:16] <_eMaX_> Jucato: it seems to be this apport-qt not remembering that I told him to ignore that applicationn
[02:16] <bxnp> Jucato: it says call failed when i do that in the konsole
[02:16] <Jucato> bxnp: check if kicker is installed
[02:16] <Jucato> _eMaX_: hm.. feisty?
[02:16] <bxnp> well it was yesterday, but i left my laptop running out of battery and when i restarted kicker was gone
[02:16] <jay> hey crimsun, any luck with the sound card... i boot up this morning and it still doesn't work.
[02:17] <jay> am beginnin 2 get worried
[02:17] <Jucato> bxnp: check if kicker is still installed
[02:17] <_eMaX_> Jucato: yes
[02:17] <bxnp> lol its not installed, very strange
[02:18] <Jucato> _eMaX_: ah, better ask in #ubuntu+1 coz apport doesn't come to Kubuntu till feisty
[02:19] <Forge> um all that does is leave me with more questions!
[02:19] <bxnp> in wich package is kicker Jucato
[02:19] <Jucato> bxnp: kicker :D
[02:19] <waylandbill> :)
[02:20] <ForgeAus> it doesn't seem to explain anything about why root isn't a valid user at the login tty prompt...
[02:20] <ForgeAus> it also seems to contradict itself
[02:20] <ForgeAus> sayinng sudo -i is neither supported or necessary... yet everything that requires everything those priveleges can be done by sudo (or kdesu) anyway... whats the difference?
[02:20] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what do you mean?
[02:20] <ForgeAus> sudo is sudo
[02:20] <Jucato> O.o
[02:20] <bxnp> oke Jucato i do apt-get install kicker --reinstall
[02:21] <bxnp> cause when i do just apt-get install kicker it says its already installed
[02:21] <waylandbill> bxnp: yup
[02:21] <Jucato> root isn't a valid user at login prompts because there is basically no root user (or root isn't enabled)
[02:21] <Jucato> ForgeAus: ^^^
[02:21] <Jucato> more precisely, X (and KDE) on Kubuntu have been setup not to work with a root user.
[02:21] <ForgeAus> By default, the root account is locked in Ubuntu.
[02:22] <waylandbill> it's login capability is disabled is probably the most accurate way to describe it
[02:22] <ForgeAus> which means there is one (it couldn't be locked if one didn't exist)
[02:23] <waylandbill> yes. there is one.
[02:23] <Jucato> no one said that root didn't exist
[02:23] <ForgeAus> hmm so that means even if I did get Xnest to ask for a login screen it wouldn't let me login as root anyway...
[02:23] <Jucato> it's just *virtually* non-existent
[02:23] <thomax_> ForgeAus: you can enable root acc in "login manager" in kcontrol
[02:23] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: correct.
[02:23] <Jucato> thomax_: it's going to take more than that
 root isn't a valid user at login prompts because there is basically no root user (or root isn't enabled)
[02:24] <thomax_> Jucato: probably, but I never tried it :) so I don't really know :p
[02:24] <ForgeAus> I kinda read that - there basically is no root user as that one didn't exist...
[02:24] <waylandbill> a password has to be assigned to root before it can be used at login prompts.
[02:24] <Jucato> ForgeAus: that's why I said "basically" and the *or*
[02:25] <ForgeAus> so my sudo pass isn't a root pass?
[02:25] <Jucato> waylandbill: plus X has to be configured to allow graphical root login
[02:25] <Jucato> ForgeAus: no
[02:25] <bxnp> oke thanks guys, i have kicker back
[02:25] <waylandbill> correct.
[02:25] <thomax_> ForgeAus: assign pass to root with "sudo passwd"
[02:25] <ForgeAus> ahhh thats making more sense...
[02:26] <waylandbill> Jucato: right.
[02:26] <bxnp> brb, to see if its comming up when i relogin from kdm
[02:26] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the password that sudo accepts is the password of the user who called sudo *if* that user is part of the sudoers group, the group that can use sudo, which in Kubuntu, is the "admin" group
[02:26] <ForgeAus> ok now I don't get why have a sudo pass if its the same as the user pass anyway...
[02:26] <Jucato> ForgeAus: there  is no separate sudo password
[02:27] <ForgeAus> so its an administartor password to act as root?
[02:27] <Jucato> yesh
[02:27] <Jucato> to *temporarily* act as root
[02:27] <thomax_> ForgeAus: first user to be set up is considdered admin and automatically added to the admin group
[02:27] <ForgeAus> its essentially the same as logging in as root
[02:27] <ForgeAus> ok temporarily sure
[02:28] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it might look like logging in as root (or using the "su -c" command), but technically it isn't
[02:28] <waylandbill> it's mainly so noone walks up to your terminal when you are in the restroom and does sudo as you.
[02:29] <ForgeAus> Jucato yeah because it doesn't use the root password... seems awfully strange security wise
[02:29] <ForgeAus> that someone could login and act as root without knowing a root password
[02:29] <Jucato> thomax_: or the other way around.. (first user is added to the admin group so it's considered admin) :D
[02:29] <waylandbill> although it is entirely possible to set up sudo to not even ask for a password.
[02:29] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the one using sudo must know a password. YOUR password
[02:30] <waylandbill> which you are not likely to be giving out
[02:30] <ErunnoWTF> Hi there. does anyone know how to revert the Kubuntu desktop back to the installation defaults ?
[02:30] <ForgeAus> Jucato in the past I assumed that was the root password which was why it was required to use root priveleges... etc...
[02:31] <Jucato> well, now you know :)
[02:31] <ForgeAus> but now its all screwy
[02:31] <Jucato> it's not really as screwy as you think
[02:31] <Jucato> it just so happened that your previous presumption was screwed :D
[02:31] <ForgeAus> using a user password to access root priveleges is messign with my head
[02:31] <waylandbill> :)
[02:31] <om3ga> for some reason my channel list isnt showing the channels today
[02:32] <ForgeAus> also if thats the case... why ask for it? its already been given in KDM anyway right?
[02:32] <ForgeAus> or TTY login
[02:32] <Jucato> then I can only imagine what memorizing 2 separate passwords would do to your head..
[02:32] <Jucato> huh?
[02:32] <Jucato> security measures
[02:32] <ForgeAus> lol ahh but I'd set them to the same string
[02:32] <Jucato> sudo is meant for one command alone. as a "nice" feature, it can remember that you entered the password for a set amount of time
[02:33] <Jucato> also, sudo doesn't "
[02:33] <Jucato> also, sudo doesn't "read" into your login process
[02:33] <ForgeAus> Jucato so your saying KDE assumes the user is an erm "foreign"?? one... rather than the one that logged into the machine?
[02:33] <Jucato> ??
[02:33] <waylandbill> and then forgets about it, so that physical access would have to be made in a short period of time to gain access.
[02:34] <crystufer2000> Okay, so how do I make it so that anyone can log into my samba share without a username or password?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> lol Jucato... when I run a command.... Kubuntu assumes I'm not the user that installed kubuntu onto the system...
[02:35] <Jucato> hm?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> which is why sudo is required to run say adept or modify the filesystem at a level above /home/<username>
[02:36] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: you can set that up in the control center, network, samba dialog
[02:36] <crystufer2000> Hooray sudo!
[02:36] <yaccin> lomoco doesnt recognize my mouse o.O
[02:37] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you need to run Adept w/ kdesu (not sudo) because it will be using apt-get, which, in turn, will be installing and writing stuff into root-owned directories, like /usr and /etc
[02:37] <yaccin> !lomoco
[02:37] <ubotu> lomoco: Logitech Mouse Control for USB mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta1+1.0-4 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB
[02:37] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: Mine doesn't ave a smaba dialog.
[02:37] <ForgeAus> Jucato yes true but thats a technicality thats not what I meant... kdesu is just the gui version of sudo anyway... basically...
[02:38] <yaccin> ForgeAus: for securityreasons
[02:38] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes. and that's what I meant. you use sudo for programs/commands that needs to be able to modify root-owned files/directories
[02:38] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Start kcontrol via alt-f2, is has the missing kcontrol elemsnts including samba
[02:38] <yaccin> but you can always chmod every other file (with sudo) to make it accessable with another user
[02:38] <yaccin> but i wont suggest that
[02:38] <Jucato> you already did...
[02:39] <ForgeAus> lol yaccin
[02:39] <ForgeAus> I'm not going to
[02:39] <yaccin> -suggest + reccomend
[02:39] <Jucato> ForgeAus: don't do what yaccin wasn't suggesting :D
[02:39] <Jucato> or wasn't recommending
[02:39] <yaccin> :D
[02:40] <ForgeAus> I just wish it were easier, that I didn't need to use a password to install things and to copy/move files etc...
[02:40] <Jucato> er..
[02:40] <ForgeAus> ie fstab when something empties it...
[02:40] <Jucato> the former will be a security/stablity risk, the latter is probably a bug
[02:40] <yaccin> ForgeAus: then use windows :P
[02:40] <ForgeAus> I can understand if I were using it as a multiuser system that I'd want to block some people and allow others
[02:40] <ForgeAus> but I'm a single user...
[02:40] <crystufer2000> ErunnoWTF: Thank you sir.
[02:40] <ForgeAus> yaccin... I did...
[02:40] <ForgeAus> it broke
[02:40] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it's also meant to protect you from yourself
[02:41] <ForgeAus> or rather I broke it...
[02:41] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: Thank you as well, sir.
[02:41] <ForgeAus> two of them actaully
[02:41] <yaccin> ForgeAus: this also blocks possible hackers and virusses from doing stuff you dont want to
[02:41] <crystufer2000> btw, who is nobody?
[02:41] <yaccin> thats why this is for
[02:41] <ForgeAus> yaccin yes... I've heard that too
[02:41] <yaccin> you cant brake linux that easy ^^
 or rather I broke it... <--- and yet you want full power to break your machine again?
[02:42] <crystufer2000> Like why do I have a nobody acoount?
[02:42] <Jucato> or are you one of those guys who take pleasure in breaking every possible setup? O.o
[02:42] <ForgeAus> yeah but the windows break wasn't like that
[02:42] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: the user account that is never allowed to login. never intended to is probably more accurate.
[02:42] <ForgeAus> I don't TRY to break things..
[02:42] <yaccin> its bad enough that you dont need a password before you can shift-del a file from your home directory :D
[02:42] <ForgeAus> I try to get things working, (but sure sometimes they're things that don't normally work/apply to that system)
[02:42] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: So it''s an okay idea to make nobody my samba login account if I decide I want one?
[02:43] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes you don't try. doesn't mean you won't *accidentally* break things. which is what an admin setup protects you from
[02:43] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: nobody is a "least-access" acount. Some daemons use it to minimize access to the rest of the OS
[02:43] <ForgeAus> well its not exactly by accident either
[02:43] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: you're probably wanting a 'guest' account for samba.
[02:43] <ForgeAus> its by doing something I intend to do, but the intention is to run something rather than break ... it just happens to be a side-effect of somethings I try sometimes...
[02:44] <Jucato> doesn't that sound like an accident?
[02:44] <ErunnoWTF> waylandbill: Istn't guest mapped to nobody ?
[02:44] <Jucato> something you didn't intend to happen?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> ie I dind't want to BREAK my Windows... it just happened
[02:44] <ForgeAus> exactly
[02:44] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: so you'd say i should make a new account named guest?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> I'll fix it... at some stage
[02:44] <steven__> hallo
[02:44] <ForgeAus> when I'm happy I can safely do so
[02:44] <steven__> ich brauch mal hielfe??!!
[02:45] <yaccin> !de | steven__
[02:45] <ubotu> steven__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:45] <Jucato> !de | steven__
[02:45] <Jucato> bah
[02:45] <ForgeAus> but for now Kubuntu seems to be serving me well enough
[02:45] <yaccin> (aber ich helf dir auch so :P
[02:45] <ForgeAus> I like it actually
[02:45] <steven__> i spken not englisch sorry
[02:46] <steven__> gut bey
[02:46] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: the samba dialog I mentioned has the ability to map to a guest account. it's not a real account but rather a special one that doesn't require a login
[02:46] <_eMaX_> can I with something like kdialog capture the output of a  command in a window? I want to display a small window that has two buttons and sort of a textarea. each button is linked to a script, and the stdout / stderr of that script Iwant to show in the textarea
[02:46] <crystufer2000> Okay, and finally does anyone remember the command to restart smbd>
[02:46] <crystufer2000> ?*
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> cool
[02:52] <crystufer2000> sweet. It worked.
[02:52] <bonbonthejon> crystufer2000: cool
[02:52] <crystufer2000> One thing though, it's really slow.
[02:53] <crystufer2000> When I browse on the other end of the network, it's very very slow to load.
[02:53] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: is there a large amount of entries in the directory?
[02:54] <crystufer2000> Well, it lags even finding my share.
[02:54] <traumesel> hmm sau irgen ein grund kann ich keine privat nachricht in denn schenel schreiben !!
[02:54] <crystufer2000> But whatever. It works.
[02:54] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: :)
[02:55] <bonbonthejon> !de | traumesel
[02:55] <ubotu> traumesel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:55] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: It's been a while since I installed a Samba server, but is the netbios daemon running ?
[02:55] <crystufer2000> ErunnoWTF: I'm sorry?
[02:56] <robnyc> i have openoffice installed and its not opening or nothing
[02:56] <traumesel> ja war vor her schon drin mit steven ^^
[02:56] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: The netbios daemon is responsible for name resolution in Samba, maybe the lack of it causes the slow searches
[02:56] <crystufer2000> Okay. How can I check that?
[02:56] <bonbonthejon> traumesel: Sprechen Sie English?
[02:57] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Is the daemon nmbd running ?
[02:57] <traumesel> noo sorry -.-
[02:57] <crystufer2000> pid 26768
[02:57] <crystufer2000> Yeppers.
[02:57] <bonbonthejon> robnyc: open konsole and try running "oowriter" to see what the output says
[02:58] <traumesel> kubuntu-de drin got bye ^^
[02:58] <crystufer2000> Hallo, traumesel. Wi gets dir?
[02:58] <HymnToLife> too late
[02:58] <crystufer2000> aww
[02:59] <robnyc> bonbonthejon: command not found
[02:59] <bonbonthejon> robnyc: ok, so openoffice is not installed
[03:00] <crystufer2000> Hehe.
[03:00] <bonbonthejon> robnyc: open adept and try to install/reinstall it
[03:00] <crystufer2000> The robot noticed the german.
[03:01] <crystufer2000> Okay, smambama works now.
[03:01] <crystufer2000> Thanks guys!
[03:02] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Do you understand german ?
[03:03] <crystufer2000> ErunnoWTF: Not really. Only a few words.
[03:04] <bonbonthejon> ErunnoWTF: I took three years of German, but its been four years since, so I forget a lot
[03:05] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Here's a link that explains how to setup Samba as a WINS server: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch07_03.html
[03:05] <dani> hi
[03:05] <crystufer2000> ty ty
[03:05] <bonbonthejon> dani: hi
[03:06] <tsb> Can I use gnupg2 with kmail or do I need to install gnupg?
[03:06] <ErunnoWTF> I'll repeat my question again ;-) Is there a way to revert KDE to the default installation settings without deleting .kde ?
[03:06] <ErunnoWTF> I'd like to go back to the default layout without having to manually revert everything. That's a pain :P
[03:07] <bonbonthejon> tsb: i don't know
[03:07] <bonbonthejon> ErunnoWTF: I don't know that either, since noone else is responding
[03:08] <ErunnoWTF> bonbonthejon: Thanks anyway :-)
[03:09] <bonbonthejon> ErunnoWTF: I'm heading out, good luck, Tschues!
[03:09] <ErunnoWTF> Bye
[03:09] <Jucato> ErunnoWTF: try moving/deleting the config file for the particular app/part you want to restore to default (in ~/.kde/share/config)? there's no single, one-click way to do this afaik
[03:09] <ErunnoWTF> I'll try...on a test account ;-) Thanks
[03:10] <ErunnoWTF> Has aseigo actually ever said anything in this channel or is he just here as a reminder that there's no escape from our KDE overlords ?
[03:10] <Jucato> he speaks from time to time
[03:11] <cadkins> does anyone here use Amarok with an iPod?
[03:12] <waylandbill> cadkins: that's my app of choice for that.
[03:12] <waylandbill> unless I'm putting video and then gtkpod. :-)
[03:12] <cadkins> waylandbill : cool.  When I subscribe to a podcast, download the episode and then transfer to the iPod, is there a way to get it to show up under "Podcasts" on the iPod?
[03:13] <ErunnoWTF> Q&A time :P Does anyone know if the new software properties in feisty were ported to qt or is it just the gtk+ version using gtk-qt-engines ?
[03:13] <cadkins> right now it just shows up under "Artists"  Not sure why that is
[03:13] <waylandbill> cadkins: I would think it depends on the podcast itself.
[03:14] <robnyc> bonbonthejon: whats the proper / correct pkg name for openoffice.org and openoffice.org-calc to run on kubuntu
[03:15] <cadkins> waylandbill : hmm...well under iTunes it does just fine, but when I use Amarok it just goes to "Music"
[03:16] <Lynoure> robnyc: you run programs and install packages, which are you trying to do?
[03:16] <cadkins> maybe I just need a little more practice with Amarok.  Great media player though!
[03:16] <robnyc> openoffice.org Lynoure
[03:16] <waylandbill> cadkins: where's the podcast from?
[03:17] <robnyc> i had ubuntu installed, then i installed kubuntu-desktop, then somebody removed kde from here.. so i reinstalled kde and removed gnome now.. and all of a sudden OO disappeared
[03:17] <cadkins> waylandbill : mmm...there's a few of them.  Linux Reality, Buzz out loud, Mike Tech Show.
[03:18] <waylandbill> cadkins: plugging my ipod in now. will try to fetch one and pop in my pod.
[03:18] <Lynoure> robnyc: oh, install. Ok. you can see what kubuntu-desktop installs by doing   apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[03:18] <Lynoure> robnyc: it seem to install  openoffice.org and  openoffice.org-kde
[03:18] <cadkins> waylandbill : thanks for taking a look at it.  It might just be something I'm not doing right.  :p
[03:22] <robnyc> Lynoure: problem
[03:23] <robnyc> http://rafb.net/p/jLKkVR29.html Lynoure
[03:25] <waylandbill> cadkins: looks like you can't put them under podcasts with Amarok. You can put them under playlists though.
[03:26] <waylandbill> cadkins: It may be gtkpod that lets you put them under podcasts.
[03:26] <cadkins> waylandbill : thanks for the time.  I'll install gtkpod this evening and give it a shot.   Bummer about that though.  I'd like to just use Amarok for all media :(
[03:28] <waylandbill> cadkins: I agree. I love Amarok. It's a nice media center.
[03:28] <cadkins> waylandbill : sure is.  I was surprised when Amarok came up and had all my iPod stuff there.  Love Amarok  LOL
[03:29] <ForgeAus> Amarok is ok
[03:29] <cadkins> waylandbill : is gtkPod in the repositories?
[03:29] <waylandbill> cadkins: yes.
[03:30] <cadkins> waylandbill :  cool.  Thanks!
[03:30] <Lynoure> robnyc: pastebin your sources list or try to install the dependencies by hand
[03:33] <Lynoure> robnyc: And if you happen to be using feisty, try asking on #ubuntu+1
[03:34] <ForgeAus> Rob or packages.ubuntu.com? at least I think thats what the website is
[03:34] <robnyc> Lynoure: im using edgy
[03:34] <robnyc> brb
[03:34] <ForgeAus> !openoffice
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[03:34] <ForgeAus> that SHOULD work
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[03:34] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
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[03:44] <killown> how I do to send process "make" for other tty?
[03:46] <surgy> hello
[03:46] <surgy> can someone tell me how to manually do a disk check?
[03:47] <Lynoure> surgy: ext3? do you know the device?
[03:48] <surgy> lynoure yes ext3 sdb
[03:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:49] <bianconeri> hello I have a question
[03:49] <bianconeri> or rather a problem
[03:49] <Lynoure> surgy: e2fscheck -f /dev/sdb  should do it
[03:50] <surgy> lynoure: and that works like a scandisk whould in windows?
[03:50] <larrydavid> hey all, does anyone know anything about 'git' ?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> bianconeri, just state your prob/question, and if someone can help s/he will
[03:51] <bianconeri> 2 weeks ago when I installed Kubuntu I applied this technique " How to disable all interactive editing control for GRUB menu" from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_disable_all_interactive_editing_control_for_GRUB_menu however I just installed amaroklive on another partition and totally forgot about this....how can I make amarok appear on the menu now?
[03:51] <Lynoure> surgy: no, it is not graphical...
[03:51] <BluesKaj> install it on the same partition as kde
[03:52] <surgy> lynoure: i know but same concept right?
[03:52] <Lynoure> surgy: but it does check your filesystem for errors and fixes them when it can, yes
[03:52] <Lynoure> surgy: you should not have the disk mounted when you do it, and you might need a  sudo  in the front.
[03:53] <betty_> dskfsd
[03:53] <surgy> lynoure: that could be a problem the disk i want to check is the one with lynux installed
[03:54] <Lynoure> surgy: yes, then you need to e.g. boot from livecd and run that command from that
[03:54] <myn> ciao
[03:55] <surgy> Lynoure: telling me there is no disk checking utility i can run on a partition while using that partition?
[03:57] <Lynoure> surgy: you can run that, but you really really should not. As the disk can change in the middle of running and wreck havoc on the check or on itself.
[03:57] <Lynoure> surgy: you do not have a live cd (kubuntu installation cd, for example?)
[03:58] <surgy> yes i have a live cd but thats so inconveniant, i just noticed that kubuntu auto checks itself every 30 starts it whould be nice to have it check itself every 15 starts
[03:59] <NotWired> do I need to worry about the upcoming changes made to DST?
[03:59] <Lynoure> surgy: that you can do with tune2fs,  see man tune2fs
[04:00] <surgy> Lynoure: do i have tune2fs by defualt?
[04:02] <Lynoure> surgy: I think so, but I'm not 100% sure
[04:02] <Lynoure> surgy: should be at /sbin/tune2fs
[04:05] <surgy> lynoure: can you give me an example of the tune2fs using the interval command?
[04:09] <Lynoure> surgy: tune2fs -c 15 /dev/sdb  adjusts the max mounts between checks to be 15
[04:10] <Nicos> bjr tlm !
[04:11] <Nicos> nouvel utilisateur kubuntu, je cherche  partager un dossier qui pourra tre accessible de mon voisinage rseau par des postes sous windows
[04:12] <yaccin> !fr | Nicos
[04:12] <ubotu> Nicos: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:12] <Nicos> ok
[04:13] <surgy> Lynoure: thnx
[04:13] <jermain> hi everyone
[04:13] <echosyp> someone get me unbanned from #ubuntu
[04:13] <jermain> how did you get banned?
[04:14] <echosyp> i cussed
[04:14] <jermain> :)
[04:14] <jermain> well im no admin so i cant do that :/
[04:14] <echosyp> i think the bot can do it
[04:14] <echosyp> !unban echosyp
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unban echosyp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Jucato> echosyp: please go to #ubuntu-ops
[04:14] <jermain> oic
[04:15] <echosyp> k
[04:15] <echosyp> anywho, wouldn't anyone know why wlan-ng drivers won't let me configure my card?
[04:15] <waylandbill> need the bot to chuckle with the unban directive. :-)
[04:18] <echosyp> guess thats a no
[04:18] <ackbahr> Hello! My AltGr key doesn't work, nore does CapsLock. How can I redetect my keyboard? Thank you!
[04:19] <jermain> -.-
[04:19] <jermain> ackbahr, i'd help you if i werent a complete noob
[04:19] <jermain> :)
[04:21] <ackbahr> jermain: Thanks, that brings a little sunshine in this grey day (well, here at least)
[04:21] <NightBird> >_>
[04:21] <jermain> :)
[04:21] <NightBird> ackbahr, I don't know how to redetect the keyboard, sorry
[04:21] <jermain> im looking for help myself
[04:21] <jermain> bird, maybe you can help me
[04:22] <jermain> Adept says i have FTP installed
[04:22] <jermain> but i cant find any ftp application
[04:22] <jermain> o.O
[04:22] <NightBird> er... are you sure you installed ftp and not an ftp daemon?
[04:22] <waylandbill> jermain: 'ftp' is a CLI application
[04:22] <jermain> oic
[04:23] <Jucato> !ftp | jermain
[04:23] <ubotu> jermain: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:23] <jermain> thanks :)
[04:23] <NightBird> yeah, I was going to guess that konqueror could handle ftp
[04:23] <Jucato> you guessed right :D
[04:23] <ackbahr> Yes, Konqueror is nice
[04:23] <Lynoure> ackbahr: do you get altgr and caps lock in console (outside the graphical mode)
[04:24] <ackbahr> Lynoure: You mean in complete console, or in a windowed console?
[04:24] <Lynoure> ackbahr: the actual console, outside X server
[04:24] <waylandbill> ackbahr: from a virtual terminal such as VT1 (ctrl-alt-F1)
[04:25] <ackbahr> waylandbill: I'd like to try, but hoe do I get back to X then?
[04:25] <ackbahr> s/hoe/how
[04:25] <cntb> cloned installation now on new pc - X server fatal error no screens found ? any ideas guy ?
[04:25] <Lynoure> waylandbill: that combo is a oneway ticket to some people... (unless they know ctrl+alt+f7 gets them back)
[04:25] <jermain> !KFTPGrabber
[04:25] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[04:25] <cntb> cloned installation now on new pc - X server fatal error no screens found ? any ideas guy ?
[04:26] <yaccin> cntb: other graphics card?
[04:26] <yaccin> other monitor?
[04:26] <cntb> done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <Lynoure> ackbahr: good that you asked before trying it. ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back.
[04:26] <cntb> yaccin previous was diferent NV
[04:26] <ackbahr> Well, Ctrl+alt+F1 won't get me there anyway.... :(
[04:26] <tom__> hello
[04:27] <cntb> yaccin maybe I go default then reinstall NV >?
[04:27] <yaccin> cntb: hmm. tried reinstalling graphic-cards driver?
[04:27] <yaccin> oh
[04:27] <delmp> ca roule ?
[04:27] <Lynoure> ackbahr: it should... hmm
[04:27] <yaccin> yes try changing to default drivers first
[04:27] <jermain> this is my 3rd day with kubuntu and im lovin it allready xD
[04:27] <yaccin> if that works, then reinstall
[04:27] <ackbahr> Really doesn't
[04:27] <yaccin> jermain: :) great^^
[04:27] <NightBird> jermain: excellent
[04:27] <cntb> not yet yaccin just overcome grub geom error
[04:28] <yaccin> jermain: im on kubuntu since dabber, running feisty now ^^
[04:28] <jermain> nice
[04:28] <yaccin> cntb: then try this :) hope it works
[04:28] <jermain> im running edgy eft :)
[04:28] <yaccin> *dapper
[04:28] <NightBird> I have most of the system up and working finally..
[04:28] <cntb> try what yaccin
[04:28] <jermain> gotta love the names they come up with with their updates
[04:28] <yaccin> argh still one thing thats not working here ^^
[04:28] <yaccin> cntb: changing to default nvidia driver
[04:28] <yaccin> or two, but second is a "wine" problem... ^^
[04:29] <cntb> I have old xorg.conf  yaccin can I choose generic in dpkg-reconfigure
[04:29] <Lynoure> ackbahr: anyway, you can also try checking that you have they right keyboard layout under System Settings -> Regional -> keyboard layout.    and if that does not work,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <yaccin> cntb: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <cntb> ok bye pal
[04:29] <yaccin> search "driver "nvidia" " << change to " driver "nv" "
[04:30] <ackbahr> Ah, I'll try the second one (because in your first solution, I don't have a list of keyboards....)
[04:31] <_delmp> ?
[04:31] <delmp> fffffffhf
[04:37] <cntb> q. \o is Accton Technology SMC2-1211TX in kubuntu supported HArdware  ?
[04:37] <cntb> !hardware
[04:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:41] <Mena_> Hi,
[04:42] <Mena_> Why running the both  in the same time OperaBrowser and Azuruiez Slowing down my stystem , is there any idea
[04:43] <Mena_> and i ue java6
[04:43] <Mena_> use*
[04:43] <Mena_> !kbfx
[04:43] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[04:43] <aorthr33> LVM help?
[04:43] <_delmp> yo
[04:44] <_delmp> salope
[04:44] <cntb> pls some install expert
[04:44] <cntb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsSmc are officially listed as supported
[04:44] <cntb> q. \o is Accton Technology SMC2-1211TX in kubuntu supported HArdware  ?
[04:45] <aorthr33> I just did a HD install of Kubuntu that I intend to run from a portable USB-HD, but to facilitate the install, I installed the HD in my laptop..now I need to change the menu.lst to reflect where the HD will eventually live
[04:45] <cntb> any workaround with that NIC ?
[04:45] <aorthr33> before (pre-LVM), I would just change from sda1 to sdb1...but not sure how that translates in LVM...anyone got any ideas?
[04:46] <Mena_> !ping
[04:46] <ubotu> pong
[04:46] <Mena_> :D
[04:46] <Mena_> !pong
[04:46] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[04:46] <aorthr33> should  I just the menu.lst entry from (hd0,4) to (hd1,4)?
[04:47] <cntb> wow via vt6105 NIC also not supported in ubuntu !!
[04:48] <Mena_> I also wonder why when i install kubuntu on another pc but with my hard and When i conect my hard to my pc it doesnt work...Any idea why that happened
[04:49] <cntb> CNet Davicom DM9102AF also out of supported NIcs ?
[04:49] <Mena_> Support Here fiends !!!!!! :(
[04:50] <Mena_> friends*
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> !real
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> !realplayer
[04:50] <XVampireX> people, not directly kubuntu related, but those new to Linux trying out Kubuntu here's a good article: http://security.linux.com/security/07/02/13/1637251.shtml?tid=35
[04:50] <aorthr33> Mena: define some of your terms for us:   Install to another PC (USB connection, IDE connection???),...'doesnt work....doens't boot, some features done' work???
[04:51] <cntb> wow via vt6105 NIC also not supported in ubuntu !
[04:52] <cntb> XVampireX: strange wy so many netcards not supported?
[04:53] <ghetek> how do i find a specific string of text that is in a plaintext file somewhere in a subdirectory of a directory that i am currently in (im in Konsole)
[04:54] <XVampireX> cntb: Ask your hardware manufacturer
[04:54] <XVampireX> Linux devs (including ubuntu) are trying to get as much hardware working on Linux. Not their fault.
[04:54] <Jucato> ghetek: "grep -i searchstring directory/" maybe?
[04:56] <gdiebel> ghetek: you may wish to: grep -ri string directory/ as this will recursively search.
[04:58] <cntb> XVampireX: noone's fault
[04:58] <cntb> want to solve a problem
[04:58] <Jucato> aseigo: heh :)
[04:59] <Gtwy> cntb: is it supported for any other distribution
[04:59] <Jucato> aseigo: you have a long scrollback :D
[04:59] <cntb> DM9102af NIC was very common I guess was supported by rh7 old debian etc
[04:59] <athlon> currently I use kubuntu 6.06 but I am thinking about upgrading to 6.10. Thing is, though at first I used KDE, I now work exclusively in gnome. Since I dont have internet connection at home, I wonder if its possible to use kubuntu dvd to upgrade my 6.06 then use -ubuntu- dvd to upgrade gnome ?
[04:59] <cntb> where do I look
[05:00] <ackbahr> Tried all the trick you suggested to get my keyboard to work, but It did go anywhere...
[05:00] <Gtwy> cntb: you may have to modprobe
[05:00] <Gtwy> cntb: google modprobe (your nic)
[05:01] <ackbahr> Is there a way to reinstall *over* the current install, which would simply correct the current problems?
[05:01] <aseigo> Jucato: indeed. konversation's search helps sift through it nicely
[05:01] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and not loose anything?
[05:01] <Jucato> aseigo: hehe ;)
[05:01] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Well, just asking... :)
[05:01] <Gtwy> ackbahr: you didnt answer the question
[05:01] <XVampireX> aseigo you started using kubuntu?
[05:02] <ackbahr> Well, yes, that was the idea
[05:02] <aseigo> XVampireX: toyed with it during breezy, moved to it on one machine during dapper...
[05:02] <ackbahr> Like the Nasty W can do
[05:02] <Gtwy> ackbahr: do you have 2 hard drives
[05:02] <aseigo> XVampireX: now i've got an edgy and a feisty
[05:02] <aseigo> or whatever the letters are
[05:02] <ackbahr> I can backup, yes
[05:02] <XVampireX> aseigo: Cool :D
[05:02] <ackbahr> (usb ext HD)
[05:03] <XVampireX> edgy is after dapper and feisty is after edgy :P
[05:03] <aseigo> the alphabet: a wonderful thing. yeah, the lack of an updated xephyr for x86-64 is killing me right now though =(
[05:05] <n8k99> Jucato did you do something 'bad' in there?
[05:05] <cntb> the hell with old NICs I have a rtl8139 in the lab good enough
[05:05] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Anyway, I suppose the install or backup process won't be able to figure out what is working and ain't....
[05:06] <Jucato> n8k99: no. I'm just shy in front of He-man and Co. :D
[05:06] <Jucato> n8k99: but I'll be going there soon... might feel the need to add another word to my cloak :P
[05:06] <aseigo> Jucato: somehow i don't think "a kde developer's productivity is being hampered" would be a huge motivator for them ;)
[05:06] <n8k99> hehe
[05:07] <Jucato> hehe :)
[05:07] <n8k99> yeah- who needs a kde developer anyways! jk
[05:07] <Jucato> !info xserver-xephyr feisty
[05:07] <ubotu> xserver-xephyr: Nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 1488 kB, installed size 3812 kB
[05:07] <Jucato> aseigo: might also be too late now... I think we're in feature freeze already
[05:08] <Gtwy> ackbahr: it just is never a good idea to do an install like that. you would inevitably end up formatting again at a later date to correct either 1. errors it didnt fix or 2. new errors that came from doing that
[05:09] <aseigo> Jucato: it's a bug leading to 100% reproducable on-startup crashes. i don't think it matters if its a feature freeze =)
[05:09] <aseigo> Jucato: there's a patch upstream that needs to get applied and a package built
[05:09] <ackbahr> Gtwy: And is there a way to keep/remember what I configured and worked?
[05:09] <Jucato> oh...
[05:10] <Gtwy> ackbahr: backup /etc/ and your home directory
[05:10] <Gtwy> ackbahr: however if something is "screwed up"
[05:10] <Gtwy> ackbahr: have you considered just trying to fix the problem?
[05:11] <ackbahr> Gtwy: I've been trying to for 1.5 day
[05:11] <Gtwy> ackbahr: you havent tried hard enough yet
[05:11] <ackbahr> But if you have suggestions, I can submit my problem to you as well.
[05:11] <Gtwy> ackbahr: what is your problem
[05:12] <bdragonmsl> What's the best way to addberyl-manager to the session manager??
[05:12] <ackbahr> My keyboard layout won't work (AltGr and CapsLock don't do anything); the control panel thing doesn't have any keyboard layout in it, and the xserver-reconfig-xorg (something like that) didn't work either
[05:13] <ackbahr> And that's only one of the problems
[05:13] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and they used to work?
[05:14] <ackbahr> Yep
[05:14] <Gtwy> ackbahr: until what
[05:14] <ackbahr> Probably until I tried all the walkthroughs to get beryl to work, and without success, too.
[05:15] <Gtwy> uh what files did you have to edit to get beryl to work
[05:15] <ackbahr> (Which is problem 2; problem 3 is the unstability of knetwork-manager)
[05:15] <jermain> Can someone tell me how to install a .deb from konsole?
[05:15] <ackbahr> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:15] <apokryphos> ackbahr: not really a great idea to recommend that...
[05:16] <jermain> :o
[05:16] <apokryphos> specifically use the name: sudo dpkg -i somepackage.deb
[05:16] <apokryphos> jermain: though, what package is it?
[05:16] <ackbahr> apokryphos: Ah, see what you mean....
[05:16] <jermain> its skype
[05:16] <apokryphos> !skype
[05:16] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:16] <apokryphos> check there
[05:17] <jermain> damn does this bot have an answer to EVERTYTHING?
[05:17] <Gtwy> ackbahr: well, it seems you fubared your Xorg config
[05:17] <apokryphos> jermain: yes ;-)
[05:17] <apokryphos> !bot | jermain
[05:17] <ubotu> jermain: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:17] <ackbahr> Gtwy: "fubared"?
[05:17] <jermain> O.o thanks *scratches head*
[05:17] <n8k99> !everything
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about everything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and ill be honest, the reason i use kubuntu on my laptop and not gentoo, which i use for all my servers, is because i can never get Xorg configured properly and kubuntu does it for me
[05:17] <jermain[reading] > lol
[05:17] <apokryphos> !everything is <alias> bot
[05:17] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[05:17] <Gtwy> ackbahr: fubar = fouled up beyond all repair (polite version)
[05:18] <n8k99> !everything
[05:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:18] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Well, I'm in KDE, actually! :)
[05:18] <Gtwy> ackbahr: but you were trying to set up beryl right
[05:19] <Gtwy> ?
[05:19] <n8k99> jermain[reading] : yes it knows everything
[05:19] <ackbahr> And I managed to mess it all as well.... But even on the level of the console, AltGr and CapsLock won't work
[05:19] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Yes, I was trying to set up beryl
[05:20] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and you screwed up Xorg stuff
[05:20] <jermain[reading] > I thought about getting beryl too, it looked cool, but then i saw
[05:20] <ackbahr> But just to have the possibility to open a XGL session to show Wpeople who'd tell me the linux's not nice to look at.... :P
[05:20] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Yep
[05:20] <jermain[reading] > all these warnings about it being beta and it could mess you up
[05:20] <ackbahr> Kept editing xorg.conf
[05:21] <jermain[reading] > so i decided not to get it :)
[05:21] <jermain[reading] > it looks really cool on youtube though
[05:21] <ackbahr> There's probably a backup of the original one somewhere? Would this help?
[05:21] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and that is probably the one thing i cant help you with. always make a backup of a config. if you need help setting up apache/bind/sshd/or any services let me know
[05:22] <ackbahr> Gtwy: What do you think of the fact that the keys aare screwed even on the level of the console?
[05:22] <yaccin> jermain[reading] : well beryl should be kinda easy to install
[05:22] <Gtwy> ackbahr: running through X or if you kill X?
[05:22] <yaccin> what graphics card do you have?
[05:23] <tuco> Hello people.
[05:23] <Gtwy> ackbahr: have you checked /etc/locale.gen
[05:23] <ackbahr> Gtwy: starting with a console at login
[05:23] <tuco> I can't seem to sort out the problem I am having with my printer and my USB 2.gg stick. Any help welcome :-)
[05:23] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Nope, what should it look like?
[05:24] <ackbahr> Gtwy:  I don't have a locale.gen
[05:24] <ele> ackbahr:try dkpg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:25] <ackbahr> ele: Already tried it, but without the -phigh .... What does it change?
[05:25] <ele> actually i donyt no
[05:25] <ackbahr> ok... thanks anyway!
[05:26] <cntb> what is a good keyb shortcut for Kmenu (start;-)) ?
[05:27] <Jucato> cntb: Alt+F1 is the default
[05:27] <Jucato> cntb: btw, have you tried Katapult?
[05:27] <cntb> ty
[05:27] <Jucato> !katapult | cntb
[05:27] <ubotu> cntb: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[05:27] <jermain[reading] > it seems !skype is outdated
[05:27] <ackbahr> cntb: My brother hijacked the Windows key.... :)
[05:27] <jermain[reading] > i kinda used ackbahrs code
[05:27] <tuco> Guys any help welcome for my two problems. The last two that have been buggering me for two weeks now!
[05:28] <jermain[reading] > sudo dpkg -i skype*.deb
[05:28] <jermain[reading] > whats up tuco
[05:28] <jermain[reading] > im prolly not smart enough to help but do tell anyway :)
[05:29] <tuco> Thank you Jermanin. Basically for the last two weeks I have a been trying to have my MP130 Canon printer to work without success. I think I have installed what needed to be installed, and the other other problem is that i can't have my 2gig stuck recognized.
[05:29] <tuco> Jermain sorry!
[05:30] <XenThraL> Hi, having some trouble with adept package manager
[05:30] <gioacchino> hello'
[05:30] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Are you still around?
[05:30] <thomax_> XenThraL: whats up
[05:30] <XenThraL> when I try to open it and put in the password it says "conversation with su failed"
[05:31] <XenThraL> bit of a linux noob so if someone could walk me through whats going on...
[05:31] <thomax_> XenThraL: when you do "kdesu adept" ?
[05:31] <XenThraL> kdesu adept_manager
[05:31] <Gtwy> ackbahr: yeah i am fetching updates on a new edgy install
[05:31] <thomax_> are you added to the admin group ?
[05:32] <XenThraL> I have no idea
[05:32] <Gtwy> XenThraL: cat /etc/sudoers
[05:32] <XenThraL> this just started happening
[05:32] <XenThraL> worked fine last night
[05:32] <cadkins> ackbahr :  were you the one that had problems installing Beryl?
[05:33] <ackbahr> cadkins: Yep
[05:33] <XenThraL> Gtwy: do I do that on the konsole?
[05:33] <thomax_> XenThraL: thats strange, did you cgange anything since than
[05:33] <tuco> Still there Jermain?
[05:33] <thomax_> change *
[05:33] <XenThraL> not to my recollection
[05:33] <Gtwy> XenThraL: type cat /etc/sudoers
[05:33] <cadkins> ackbahr : ah.  Well...if you get your system back up running, see if this helps with the install : http://element14.wordpress.com/2007/01/16/how-to-install-beryl-on-kubuntu-610/
[05:33] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Sorry, you've already helped me a lot, I don't want to bother you too much....
[05:33] <XenThraL> "Permission denied"
[05:33] <cadkins> ackbahr: that is what I used and it installed with no problems whatsoever
[05:34] <Gtwy> ackbahr: i dont mind i just cant help you im not good with xorg configurations
[05:34] <thomax_> sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[05:34] <ackbahr> cadkins: What graphic card do you have?
[05:34] <Gtwy> ackbahr: spent all week trying to get Gentoo work on a i810 video card to no avail ended up putting kubuntu back on
[05:34] <XenThraL> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:34] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Seems the safe thing to do....
[05:34] <XenThraL> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:34] <XenThraL> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:34] <XenThraL> never touched these files...
[05:34] <waylandbill> Gtwy: spend all week just compiling KDE. :-)
[05:34] <ackbahr> Gtwy: If I want to show off to a Wuser, I can use Kararoo live CD! :)
[05:35] <cadkins> ackbahr : but first make sure that you have a graphics card that will work by doing : glxinfo | grep direct in a terminal.  If it comes back with direct rendering: yes, you're good
[05:35] <cadkins> ackbahr : I have a GeForceFX 5200
[05:35] <Gtwy> waylandbill: actually i compiled about 400 packages in 20 hours
[05:35] <ackbahr> cadkins: It doesn't, but it's a driver problem, right?
[05:35] <cntb> ,
[05:35] <cntb> sorry keyb fell
[05:35] <cntb> haha
[05:35] <waylandbill> Gtwy: that's actually not too bad.
[05:35] <thomax_> XenThraL: does apt-get work for you?
[05:35] <XenThraL> yeah
[05:36] <cadkins> ackbahr : not necissarirly.  The graphics card has to support direct rendering which is *i think* hardware acceleration.
[05:36] <cntb> in a cloned system network is down lspci sees the rtl8139 what next ?
[05:36] <thomax_> XenThraL>: ry reinstalling adept 'sudo apt-get install adept --reinstall
[05:36] <Gtwy> waylandbill: agreed... problem is you have to enable certain things in the kernel to get i810 working and disable others, i compiled 4 times and gave up
[05:36] <cadkins> ackbahr : what kind of card do you have?
[05:36] <gioacchino> I have a problem with amule
[05:36] <XenThraL> it will still know what packages I have right?
[05:36] <gioacchino> how to use webserver ?
[05:37] <ackbahr> cadkins: My understanding is that direct_rendering is the *management* of the accel... I'm not really sure what card I have, that's the problem!
[05:37] <thomax_> yeah offcource
[05:37] <XenThraL> ok just being sure
[05:37] <gioacchino> the pacage downloaded from repository' not have webserver
[05:37] <ackbahr> cadkins: Do you have a nice tool to identify it?
[05:37] <cadkins> ackbahr : from the Beryl site "The Xgl X server requires 3D video acceleration. "
[05:37] <cntb> is there such a thing dpkg-reconfigure network ?
[05:37] <cadkins> ackbahr : should be able to tell from the System Info.  I think it's under "System" on the K menu.  I'm on Winders ATM.
[05:38] <ackbahr> cadkins: Well, it's a 2005 portable computer.... It sure contains an accel! + Kararoo XGL live CD does work on this computer....
[05:38] <berker> Hi, i just started to use kubuntu today, and have a question
[05:38] <berker> I pluged in my webcam
[05:38] <cadkins> ackbahr : ok.  See if this returns anything from the command line : fglrxinfo
[05:38] <berker> but nothing happened
[05:39] <cadkins> you might have an ATI graphics card
[05:39] <berker> what should i do, can you help?
[05:39] <ackbahr> cadkins: I think so
[05:39] <XenThraL> thomax_: now when I try to run it
[05:39] <XenThraL> it says "Su returned with an error"
[05:39] <ackbahr> cadkins: At least this was my general work hypothesis
[05:39] <cadkins> ah....well see if fglrxinfo | grep direct  returns anything
[05:39] <XenThraL> doesn't even open up the dialog to put in my password
[05:39] <thomax_> hmmm
[05:39] <ackbahr> cadkins: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[05:40] <XenThraL> adept still works @ konsole
[05:40] <cadkins> ackbahr : you might have an ATI Radeon.  Not sure though
[05:40] <thomax_> XenThraL: so whan you do "kdesu adept" in konsole it works?
[05:40] <ackbahr> cadkins: But sincerely, I had something else 2 hours ago, so it's really a driver indication rather than hardware!
[05:40] <XenThraL> no
[05:40] <berker> should i load driver?
[05:40] <XenThraL> kdesu _everything_ fails
[05:40] <tuco> So guess Jermain gave up on me, anybody elses's help is welcome!
[05:40] <XenThraL> just tried with other programs
[05:41] <thomax_> hmm then its something with kdesu probablu
[05:41] <Gtwy> so sudo works but not kdesu
[05:41] <berker> no body listens me :(
[05:41] <elbing> berker, type dmesg and look at output from kernel.
[05:41] <ackbahr> cadkins: Same for the direct_rendering : I once had it on "yes", but tried tweaking to get a correction (there was a white cube when beryl got closer to working...)
[05:41] <berker> ok
[05:41] <XenThraL> apparently so Gtwy
[05:41] <XenThraL> I wonder how the hell I managed to break _that_
[05:42] <XenThraL> last night I installed alien to change some .rpms to .debs
[05:42] <XenThraL> only thing I remember doing
[05:42] <cadkins> ackbahr : I think I had that problem once too when I first installed Beryl.  Stupid question, but have you tried to just fully reboot?  Not just X but the whole computer?
[05:42] <ackbahr> cadkins: Yep
[05:43] <ackbahr> But as I told you before, I tried a dozen of XGL/Beryl/Compiz install tutorials.........
[05:43] <berker> it says usb camera found
[05:43] <berker> but how can i make it work?
[05:43] <cadkins> ackbahr : bummer :(  Would it be a big pain to just reinstall kubuntu?   After that, I would give that script a shot.  It worked like a charm for me.
[05:43] <ackbahr> cadkins: So I don't remember all I did, in what order, and what got me closer to working!!!
[05:43] <thomax_> XenThraL: just installed alien but everything keeps working fine for me
[05:43] <cntb> changed NIC how to re-detect it no eth0 no eth1 either it is a rtl8139 listed in lspci
[05:44] <XenThraL> yeah I doubted that would be it
[05:44] <XenThraL> uh how do I reinstall kdesu?
[05:44] <cadkins> ackbahr : I know what you mean.  I messed with it for a while and finally after "something", the resolution started working at 1280x1024
[05:44] <ackbahr> Well, I'm strongly considering reinstalling all of it.....
[05:44] <thomax_> does anyone know what package contains kdesu ?
[05:45] <cadkins> ackbahr : you should have a copy of xorg.conf that you can just fall back to.  Have you checked on that ?
[05:45] <ackbahr> Well, I probably have dozens of xorgs on this thing.... I'll check it up
[05:45] <thomax_> XenThraL: for the moment I don't know what to look at
[05:46] <miranda82> hi there people
[05:46] <XenThraL> irk, that can't be a good sign
[05:46] <ackbahr> How can I ls a directory in column by dates?
[05:46] <cadkins> ackbahr : I would see if you can find the first one that worked and go back to it.
[05:46] <thomax_> XenThraL: it's strange thats all I can say
[05:46] <miranda82> is there any way to make smaller the notification bubbles of kopete? they are huge here...
[05:46] <thomax_> an aplication doesn't break by itself as far as I know
[05:46] <PhinnFort> is it possible to get ktorrent 2.1 in edgy?
[05:46] <cadkins> ackbahr : the xorg.conf files should be appended with either a date stamp or number i.e. xorg.conf.1  xorg.conf.2  etc...
[05:47] <PhinnFort> on amd64?
[05:47] <ackbahr> cadkins: Well, I have both types....
[05:47] <cadkins> ackbahr : I would use the one with the time stamp.  I had to do that as well  LOL
[05:47] <ackbahr> cadkins: I have *8* xorg.* files! :)
[05:48] <cadkins> ackbahr : yep.  I had about the same :)  I have to run but good luck getting back working.  And try that script to see if that works ;)
[05:48] <XenThraL> Gtwy: any clue on how I can fix this?
[05:48] <PhinnFort> is anyone else experiencing random crashes of the X server when using beryl?
[05:49] <Gtwy> try reinstalling kdesu ?
[05:49] <XenThraL> which package is it?
[05:49] <XenThraL> I did kdesu --reinstall but, thats not it...
[05:49] <PhinnFort> XenThraL: check out packages.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <PhinnFort> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=kdesu&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[05:49] <PhinnFort> kdebase-bin, it seems
[05:50] <elbing> PhinnFort, I experienced troubles with adept-notifier. Running from AIGLX rest looks nice
[05:50] <ackbahr> Goodbye all, I'm trying to restore my system! See you all in another life!
[05:50] <PhinnFort> elbing: the problems with adept-notifier seems to be random
[05:50] <XenThraL> cool, thanks
[05:50] <PhinnFort> sometimes it works/looks perfectly
[05:50] <elbing> yes, with XGL white screen
[05:50] <PhinnFort> XenThraL: you're welcome
[05:50] <elbing> if it's killed all runs well
[05:50] <PhinnFort> well, i'm using AIGLX, and it runs perfectly, except it sometimes crashes when i have many apps open
[05:51] <PhinnFort> i.e. under heavy load
[05:51] <XenThraL> reinstalled kdebase but its still giving me the error
[05:51] <XenThraL> guess I'll reboot
[05:51] <elbing> With AIGLX I start with kwin, beryl is in autostart but keeps original window manager. Not important for me, selected beryl manager and all runs except random troubles with adept
[05:52] <berker> sorry my machine is frozen
[05:52] <PhinnFort> elbing: it's not even sometimes, it was three times this morning
[05:52] <berker> so how can i make it work?
[05:52] <berker> elbing?
[05:52] <PhinnFort> berker: what's the problem?
[05:52] <berker> sorry guys
[05:52] <berker> i'm new
[05:52] <skywalker> what is wrong with upgradeing from Ubuntu to xubuntu
[05:52] <berker> I pluged my web cam.
[05:52] <elbing> PhinnFort, under heavy load runs without problems except my FX5200 that is tired :p
[05:53] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:53] <berker> How can i make it work?
[05:53] <PhinnFort> elbing: well, it's very snappy and everything, it just crashes sometimes
[05:53] <elbing> berker, your problem is not kubuntu: is Linux. try adding your cam to your favourite instant messenger program
[05:53] <Admiral_Chicago> skywalker: nothing.
[05:53] <elbing> usually it will works
[05:53] <PhinnFort> and i know it isn't a problem with my experimental radeon drivers, since another guy with nvidia had exactly the same error
[05:53] <PhinnFort> even the same backtrace
[05:54] <berker> i tried with Kopete. not working, just a blue squire
[05:54] <skywalker> ok thanks I was thinking of doing that IO dident know if theirs was a bug or something
[05:54] <ccl> Hi. I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu. I have a problem with installing codecs for watching movies and listening to music...
[05:54] <PhinnFort> berker: run dmesg | tail
[05:54] <PhinnFort> !automatix
[05:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:54] <elbing> hummm I'm not sure about backtrace. It's not card problem, when beryl was updated last week some troubles disappeared
[05:54] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[05:54] <PhinnFort> maybe I should downgrade
[05:54] <elbing> this week works nice
[05:55] <PhinnFort> but the posts from that other guy in the ubuntu forums where two weeks old
[05:55] <elbing> (this morning at least)
[05:55] <PhinnFort> well, this morning it was very nice, until it crashed horribly
[05:55] <ccl> I downloaded something that was suppossed to be a plugin with codecs for totem... I just don't know how to install it..
[05:55] <elbing> yes, it was when I decided run it with AIGLX, XGL crashed for me two weeks ago
[05:56] <elbing> I'm afraid, I turned off my machine after updates and when I rebooted all work fine as yesterday
[05:56] <XenThraL> reboot did the job it seems
[05:56] <berker> and...
[05:56] <XenThraL> thank you thomax_ and PhinnFort
[05:56] <PhinnFort> ok
[05:56] <thomax_> no problem
[05:57] <PhinnFort> ccl: you should try to use Automatix or Easy Ubuntu
[05:57] <tuco> Guys...anyone can help me with my printer and usb stick please. Been stuck with it for two weeks now, and that is the only reason I have to go back to windows to print stuff (and believe me it sucks).
[05:57] <PhinnFort> tuco: what happens when you insert your usb stick?
[05:58] <PhinnFort> ccl: why do you use totem?
[05:58] <ccl> anyone that can help me?
[05:58] <PhinnFort> ccl: yes
[05:58] <PhinnFort> ccl: do you use KDE?
[05:58] <Vamp899> Hi
[05:58] <Vamp899> one question
[05:58] <ccl> well... I don't know... what should I use? Like I said, I'm completely new to Linux..
[05:58] <tuco> Thank you PhinnFort. Basically it looks like it is recognized but it doesn't appear in Konqueror and most of the time freezes the machine and I have to reboot.
[05:59] <Vamp899> use KDE
[05:59] <ccl> I wan't to learn....
[05:59] <Vamp899> KDE is a good looking and easy Desktop
[05:59] <Vamp899> how to find a Ubuntu repo for multimedia? i search packages like w32codec-all
[05:59] <berker> maybe the camera is broken i dont know, do you want me to send the konsole message to you?
[06:00] <ccl> so what do I do to install that?
[06:00] <berker> Phinnfort?
[06:00] <Vamp899> apt-get install kde-core
[06:00] <thomax_> Vamp899: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:00] <wahle> hey, anyone have any problems with the updates today removing kubuntu-desktop and apt-updater, etc etc?
[06:00] <elbing> berker, what webcam is it?
[06:00] <Vamp899> thx
[06:00] <berker> the brand is UNIS
[06:00] <tuco> PhinnFort my printer is an MP130 Canon usb
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.092000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 10
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.272000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.556000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.836000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 11
[06:01] <berker> [17180233.016000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[06:01] <binks_> is it posible to fix a broken rar in linux if no par files are present
[06:02] <berker> :(
[06:02] <apokryphos> !paste | berker
[06:02] <ubotu> berker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <Vamp899> where i have to save the sources.list? i never used Ubuntu/Kubuntu (SuSE user^^)
[06:02] <bobofett> You can't send that many messages that fast berker.
[06:02] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Well, I solved my AltGr problem by fetching the oldest xorg.conf ..... :)
[06:02] <apokryphos> Vamp899: /etc/apt
[06:02] <Vamp899> thx
[06:02] <PhinnFort> tuco: can you paste the output of dmesg?
[06:02] <PhinnFort> !paste | tuco
[06:02] <ubotu> tuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <berker> sorry ...
[06:03] <bobofett> lol np...you didn't know.
[06:03] <berker> nope
[06:03] <tuco> dmesg? Never used that one...sudo.....?
[06:03] <berker> i'm new
[06:03] <berker> no
[06:03] <berker> :)
[06:03] <timster> Why is the paste bin on the netherland server/
[06:03] <bobofett> so what are you currently using?
[06:03] <elbing> berker, maybe a hardware problem. are you sure that device works well?
[06:03] <bobofett> berker.
[06:03] <apokryphos> timster: because the NL admin runs it
[06:04] <timster> Ah
[06:04] <berker> yeah, i think so but i will buy another one tomorrow, let see if that one works...
[06:04] <tuco> Phinn what is the full command for dmesg please?
[06:04] <berker> I've been using windows bobofett
[06:05] <berker> it was a pain in the ass. and i changed it
[06:05] <bobofett> aaaah ok ... are you sure the stick works at all?
[06:05] <PhinnFort> tuco: "dmesg"
[06:05] <PhinnFort> no sudo
[06:05] <PhinnFort> it just prints stuff from the kernel
[06:05] <bobofett> Have you tried it in a different computer?
[06:05] <binks_> !rar
[06:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:05] <PhinnFort> i'm a bit busy here, sorry
[06:06] <berker> nope
[06:06] <berker> thats better idea, i'll try
[06:06] <berker> Thank you very much for all help, and sorry about the paste...
[06:06] <bobofett> yeah if you can do that really quick then come back here and let us know.
[06:06] <bobofett> lol np man
[06:06] <bobofett> good luck
[06:07] <elbing> berker, try read this: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml before buy a new device
[06:07] <berker> Thanks, I'll try it tomorrow, its 1:00 AM here, my friends were in sleep
[06:07] <berker> ok thanks elbing
[06:08] <tuco> Phinn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7665/
[06:09] <Vamp899> thx for help
[06:09] <Vamp899> i try to install Kubuntu now :D
[06:10] <berker> See you guys...
[06:10] <berker> Thanks again
[06:10] <bobofett>  later good luck
[06:10] <tominglis> hi, does anyone know how you can edit the desktop right click menu, for example to include a shortcut to konsole in it?
[06:11] <asaup> i downloaded jIRCii and java runtime environment but when i try to start jIRCii it says : Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jerk.jar
[06:12] <PhinnFort> have you tried inserting it before pasting?
[06:13] <PhinnFort>  /running dmesg
[06:14] <PhinnFort> tuco: did you insert the usb stick before running dmesg?
[06:14] <tuco> hold on
[06:14] <tuco> nope did not
[06:14] <PhinnFort> then insert it, pray it doesn't freeze, and paste;)
[06:14] <asaup> i downloaded jIRCii and java runtime environment but when i try to start jIRCii it says : Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jerk.jar
[06:15] <tuco> do you want me to? it might freeze the pc completely
[06:15] <PhinnFort> asaup: i saw it the first time
[06:15] <PhinnFort> asaup: ask in #java
[06:15] <ScarFreewill> how can i get out of "sticky keys" with out reloging
[06:15] <tuco> ok
[06:15] <Vamp899> i have a reiserfs, swap and a ext3 partition. Is there any way to install without formating one of these partitions?
[06:15] <asaup> ok
[06:15] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: yes
[06:16] <Vamp899> how?
[06:16] <Vamp899> atm im in the Kubuntu Partitionier (looks like qtparted oder LVM)
[06:16] <waylandbill> Vamp899: the installer will ask what to format and what not to
[06:16] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: its asks you after you pasted the formating screen where the mount points must be
[06:16] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: just skip the format menu
[06:16] <tuco> there you go :-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7666/
[06:17] <PhinnFort> danke
[06:17] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: i think its a sort of qtparted
[06:17] <Vamp899> im on step 5 of 6 and he shows me my two partitions and im allowed to do partitions by hand, what to klick? My HD i want to install Kubuntu on it?
[06:17] <PhinnFort> tuco: everything seems normal...
[06:18] <ScarFreewill> how can i get out of "sticky keys" with out reloging (if i hold in shift for a long time)
[06:18] <ccl> ok... I downloaded w32codec-all... How do I install it?
[06:18] <waylandbill> Vamp899: the next screen after paritioning is mount point/formatting
[06:18] <PhinnFort> ScarFreewill: ask once, mkay?
[06:18] <Vamp899> do you speak german?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> ScarFreewill: go to system settings -> Accessibility
[06:19] <binks_> ok i am missing something is there a cmd in unrar to fix an archeive
[06:19] <bobofett> I don't suppose any of you use KMPlayer do you?
[06:19] <tuco> it doesn't appear in media...how can I check?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> bobofett: i use Codeine
[06:19] <bobofett> How do you like it?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> tuco: go to "media:/"
[06:19] <PhinnFort> bobofett: very, very much
[06:19] <ScarFreewill> PhinnFort: i was not sure ppl understaned what i was trying to say note that my post is differant hince i didn't post twice
[06:19] <tuco> in there
[06:20] <bobofett> I'm on the endless search for the perfect media player...and I think I've used them all but Codeine...and that was the next on my list...it's it nice and small?
[06:20] <PhinnFort> ScarFreewill: did it work, what i told you to do?
[06:20] <ScarFreewill> PhinnFort: danke sune
[06:20] <PhinnFort> tuco: nothing?
[06:20] <bobofett> pretty decent memory footprint?
[06:20] <tuco> nothing mate...only my hardrive
[06:20] <tuco> and cdrom
[06:20] <Vamp899> the paritionier dont shows my hdb (its a ext3, is that a problem?) :(
[06:20] <Vamp899> only my hda1
[06:20] <PhinnFort> tuco: try running "ls /dev/sd*"
[06:21] <Vamp899> and hda2 (swap)
[06:21] <PhinnFort> bobofett: extremely nice
[06:21] <PhinnFort> !codeine
[06:21] <ubotu> codeine: Simple KDE video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 163 kB, installed size 576 kB
[06:21] <tuco> done
[06:21] <Vamp899> ah i found it
[06:21] <PhinnFort> tuco: what did it say?
[06:21] <PhinnFort> bobofett: http://www.methylblue.com/codeine/
[06:21] <tuco> ev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdc
[06:21] <bobofett> Ok you convinced me...ha...Codeine you are the next bitch on my list...hahaha
[06:21] <PhinnFort> bobofett: it's minimalistic, you might say
[06:22] <bobofett> Thanks alot Fort...actually been to their site before...just got side tracked by some other player...ha
[06:22] <PhinnFort> i think it might become standard in KDE 4
[06:22] <PhinnFort> it was just imported into KDE SVN
[06:22] <PhinnFort> bobofett: you must not stray from the true path
[06:22] <bobofett> We really need to .... oh yeah I was about to say what you just said about getting a standard player for KDE/Kubuntu even.
[06:22] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:23] <yaccin> !wacom
[06:23] <bobofett> lol fort
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <yaccin> !graphire
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <tuco> The machine hasn't crashed so far but the usb stick doesn't show still...arghhhh!
[06:23] <bobofett> poor ubot...lol
[06:23] <PhinnFort> tuco try to run "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"
[06:23] <bobofett> it's so confused...ha
[06:23] <yaccin> ubotu: what exactly DO you know? :P
[06:23] <PhinnFort> tuco: wait  a sec
[06:23] <yaccin> [18:24]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:23] <yaccin> XD
[06:24] <bobofett> lol
[06:24] <PhinnFort> tuco: do you have scsi disks?
[06:24] <PhinnFort> !tablet
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <PhinnFort> !mymother
[06:24] <tuco> nope I don't
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mymother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <bobofett> It's my favorite pass time to watch people try to talk to poor confused ubot....lol lol
[06:24] <Gtwy> is there a GUI app for handling private keys for remote ssh login
[06:24] <bobofett> LOL....Stop I'm going to piss myself!
[06:24] <PhinnFort> tuco: try running "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[06:25] <PhinnFort> and then access "/mnt" in konqi
[06:25] <om3ga> i have a ?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !!
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !rabbits
[06:25] <om3ga> how do i get limewire or frostwire to run in kubuntu
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rabbits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <PhinnFort> om3ga: you on 64-bit?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !frostwire
[06:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:26] <OzW> is there a way to list all connected serial devices?
[06:26] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7668/
[06:26] <om3ga> i think so
[06:26] <PhinnFort> !frostwire | om3ga
[06:26] <ubotu> om3ga: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:26] <Mena> !png
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about png - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <Mena> !ping
[06:26] <ubotu> pong
[06:26] <PhinnFort> !fool
[06:26] <bobofett> pong
[06:26] <bobofett> lol
[06:26] <bobofett> lol
[06:26] <Mena> :D
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <om3ga> i looked there and tried it but didnt work
[06:27] <OzW> or see if a serial device i have connected is in fact being detected properly?
[06:27] <PhinnFort> tuco: try typing in/pasting "/media/sda1" into the konqueror address bar
[06:27] <Mena> Freinds when i compile a program
[06:27] <PhinnFort> !serial
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <PhinnFort> OzW: use dmesg
[06:27] <PhinnFort> !dmesg
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Mena> i must install it fron the folder i have compileed it in
[06:27] <Mena> from*
[06:27] <PhinnFort> tuco: i have to go to the shower now
[06:28] <Mena> uninstall*
[06:28] <PhinnFort> please "/msg PhinnFort" if you need help desperately
[06:28] <tuco> I am happy for you Phinn :-)
[06:28] <tuco> Ok will do
[06:28] <elbing> PhinnFort, I need one million dolar
[06:28] <Mena> heeheh !!!
[06:28] <om3ga> heres what i got
[06:28] <elbing> desperately
[06:28] <tuco> and a pack of beer!
[06:29] <om3ga> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb (--install):
[06:29] <om3ga>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:29] <om3ga> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:29] <om3ga>  FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[06:30] <cntb> changed NIC how to re-detect it no eth0 no eth1 either it is a rtl8139 listed in lspci
[06:32] <om3ga> ok i got it
[06:33] <om3ga> i think
[06:34] <om3ga> ok i didnt get it
[06:34] <Gtwy> is there a "keychain" program for kubuntu or should i use the gentoo one
[06:35] <PhinnFort> !money | elbing
[06:35] <jhutchins> Gtwy: Keychain?
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about money - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <cntb> changed NIC how to re-detect it no eth0 no eth1 either it is a rtl8139 listed in lspci
[06:36] <PhinnFort> !1millionUSD | elbin
[06:36] <PhinnFort> !1millionUSD | elbing
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1millionusd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <PhinnFort> Gtwy: you mean like KWallet?
[06:36] <PhinnFort> !kwallet
[06:36] <om3ga> !frostwire
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:37] <PhinnFort> om3ga: replace "FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb" with the filename of the file you downloaded
[06:37] <om3ga> ok
[06:37] <waylandbill> cntb: did a module get loaded for it?
[06:38] <tuco> Shower was good Phinn?
[06:38] <PhinnFort> cntb: "lsmod | grep rtl
[06:38] <smaggard> hey
[06:38] <PhinnFort> tuco: very pleasant
[06:38] <smaggard> whats up folks!?
[06:38] <tuco> Dear me :-)
[06:38] <PhinnFort> tuco: did you manage to enter "/media/sda1"?
[06:38] <cntb> PhinnFort: a sec
[06:38] <tuco> this only checks my hdd
[06:39] <PhinnFort> ?
[06:39] <tuco> not the 2gg stick
[06:39] <PhinnFort> since you don't have scsi harddrives, the only "SD"'s on you system should be the usb stick
[06:39] <cntb> nope PhinnFort https://wiki.ubuntu.comd/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsRealtek mentins module8139too
[06:39] <cntb> phinn can I install it from alternateCD ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> at least untill feisty fawn comes out and that new libata stuff. :)
[06:40] <PhinnFort> the linux kernel uses the same subsystem for scsi disks and usb disks
[06:40] <tuco> well when I type /media/sda1 in the broswer in konqueror. It only shows the folders in the main hdd
[06:40] <tuco> most from windows!
[06:40] <PhinnFort> tuco: weird...
[06:40] <Mena> !ping
[06:40] <ubotu> pong
[06:40] <PhinnFort> tuco: sure you don't have a scsi disk?
[06:40] <cntb> PhinnFort:  how do I redetect and nstall it . windows asks for drivers in this case
[06:41] <Mena> !ping-pong
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping-pong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <tuco> Dude I am on a laptop...
[06:41] <tuco> and no scsi drive in sight
[06:41] <PhinnFort> dude, something is wrong
[06:41] <tuco> The stick light is ticking though
[06:41] <PhinnFort> tuco: try "ls -la /media"
[06:42] <PhinnFort> tuco: the kernel discovered it, but from the paste it didn't seem like it knew it was a storage device
[06:42] <tuco> Maybe I should need a shower again to bring more luck no?
[06:42] <PhinnFort> but, for the fun of it, how many in here knows that you can use your voice to control KDE?
[06:42] <cntb> PhinnFort: lsmod gave me a line mii 6912 8139cp,8139too
[06:42] <cntb> not many PhinnFort
[06:42] <om3ga> ok i think i got it
[06:43] <PhinnFort> System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions
[06:43] <om3ga> trying to load app now
[06:43] <cntb> PhinnFort: nice
[06:43] <PhinnFort> om3ga: nice
[06:43] <om3ga> ok wouldnt load
[06:43] <cntb> PhinnFort: lsmod gave me a line mii 6912 8139cp,8139too
[06:43] <waylandbill> cntb: then it sounds like the modules got loaded
[06:43] <om3ga> or if you're using Kubuntu:
[06:43] <om3ga> kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire
[06:43] <om3ga> Changing line 3 from:
[06:43] <om3ga> sh runFrost.sh
[06:43] <om3ga> To:
[06:43] <om3ga> bash runFrost.sh
[06:43] <robnyc> how can openoffice be recovered?
[06:43] <cntb> waylandbill:  now eth0 ?
[06:43] <om3ga> thats what the ubuntu help desk says
[06:44] <PhinnFort> om3ga: undo that edit
[06:44] <PhinnFort> rather run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash" and choose "No"
[06:44] <PhinnFort> this is because of some enormous stupidity from the ubuntu devs
[06:45] <cntb> waylandbill:  PhinnFort sudo ifconfig shows my eth0 is not up . what must the next step be ?
[06:45] <PhinnFort> cntb: do you have dhcp?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> more dash and bash fighting . :)
[06:45] <om3ga> i never did the edit
[06:45] <waylandbill> cntb: kcontrol, network, network settings
[06:45] <om3ga> i cant open kate to do it
[06:45] <PhinnFort> cntb: dhclient eth0
[06:45] <cntb> waylandbill:  was there
[06:45] <PhinnFort> om3ga: then just run the command i pasted
[06:46] <cntb> PhinnFort: trying dhclient ? sudo it ?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> cntb: yeah
[06:46] <Dr_willis> post a bug to the frostwire lists also.
[06:46] <PhinnFort> dhclient is a dhcp client
[06:46] <om3ga> ok
[06:46] <cntb> PhinnFort: trouble
[06:46] <PhinnFort> who wants to sign up to a dev-list just for filing a bug, anyways?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> cntb: ?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> cntb: you don't use dhcp?
[06:46] <cntb> error while getting interface flags nosuch device
[06:46] <PhinnFort> if not, use "ifconfig eth0 [ipaddress]  up"
[06:47] <cntb> I do use dhcp all the time
[06:47] <om3ga> what do i do from there
[06:47] <PhinnFort> cntb: do "dmesg | tail"
[06:47] <Dr_willis> actually i thought gnomefreak  sent them an email a few months back..
[06:47] <PhinnFort> om3ga: run /usr/bin/frostwire
[06:47] <waylandbill> cntb: sudo ifup eth0
[06:47] <cntb> PhinnFort:  it is a PC repair shop with 4-8 PC connected most of the time to router
[06:47] <cntb> waylandbill:  doing that
[06:47] <PhinnFort> om3ga: alt+f2, pase /usr/bin/frostwire
[06:47] <tuco> oh man I am getting tired with that stick...and I have the printer to sort out too! Please don't let me go back to wincrap...please!
[06:48] <PhinnFort> tuco: are you sure it works in wincrap?
[06:48] <PhinnFort> and what is the printer model, btw?
[06:48] <cntb> waylandbill:  PhinnFort <<< no such device >>>
[06:48] <om3ga> bad command ?
[06:48] <PhinnFort> cntb: look up
[06:48] <tuco> man...believe me it does work.
[06:48] <PhinnFort> [18:47]  <PhinnFort> cntb: do "dmesg | tail"
[06:48] <cntb> k
[06:48] <PhinnFort> tuco: that is just plain weird...
[06:48] <tuco> and it is full of pron! kidding!
[06:48] <PhinnFort> tuco: let me have a try at the printer instead, mkay?
[06:49] <tuco> ok sir
[06:49] <PhinnFort> i hate stupid stuff that won't work;)
[06:49] <om3ga> lol me too
[06:49] <tuco> man tell me...
[06:49] <Mena> plz put space bettwen the : ) and the owrd ...:D heheh
[06:49] <tuco> everything else works aprt from the stick and the printer
[06:49] <PhinnFort> luckily most of my hardware was very linux compatible
[06:49] <Mena> word8
[06:49] <cntb> PhinnFort: has some bluetooth there  on dmesg |tail also NEt : registered protocol family 31
[06:50] <PhinnFort> cntb: no mention of any errors?
[06:50] <cntb> also PhinnFort ipv6 over iv4 tunneling driver
[06:50] <smaggard> edgy worked with my volume buttons and remote out of the box :D
[06:50] <smaggard> on hp laptop
[06:50] <PhinnFort> even my tv-card worked without any hassle
[06:50] <cntb> PhinnFort: I can less the dmesg maybe
[06:50] <PhinnFort> on Gentoo, which was the first distro i used
[06:51] <PhinnFort> cntb: yeah
[06:51] <tuco> so why my simple usb stick doesnt damn it?!
[06:51] <PhinnFort> tuco: i really haven no idea
[06:51] <PhinnFort> !printers
[06:51] <waylandbill> cntb: no. "dmesg | grep 8139"
[06:51] <tuco> Hay!
[06:51] <PhinnFort> wire
[06:51] <tuco> it is an usb one
[06:52] <PhinnFort> i don't have much experience with printers under linux
[06:52] <PhinnFort> !printing
[06:52] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:52] <cntb> ty waylandbill got that 8139 chip not responding ignoring board tyvm PhinnFort waylandbill .
[06:52] <cntb> replace cadr right ?
[06:52] <tuco> I have done the thingy Phinn believe me
[06:52] <PhinnFort> cntb: probably
[06:52] <Mena> wht kubuntu doesnt work on another Pc but with my hard whay that any idea
[06:52] <Mena> why*
[06:52] <PhinnFort> tuco: what model is it?
[06:52] <tuco> Drivers installed...it shows printing but does nothing
[06:52] <tuco> Canon MP130
[06:52] <waylandbill> cntb: doesn't sound like the card is working.
[06:53] <cntb> also after bios card is not shown MB is strange
[06:53] <om3ga> ok i restarted lets see if frostwire will work now
[06:53] <PhinnFort> how can i disable that darned autocompletion in Konqueror searching?
[06:53] <tuco> with filter for the IP3200/ip4100...etc installed
[06:54] <om3ga> might end up going back to ubuntu grrr
[06:54] <tuco> bjfilter-2.5 to be exact
[06:54] <cntb> PhinnFort: disable such a nice feature ? autocompletion ?
[06:54] <PhinnFort> cntb: it's slow, and very, very buggy
[06:54] <PhinnFort> it shows on top, even though i've switched window
[06:55] <waylandbill> and leaves all his pron searches :-)
[06:55] <PhinnFort> and it shows for the first word, when i've hit enter
[06:55] <PhinnFort> sometimes is search for stuff i never intended to search for
[06:55] <PhinnFort> like i search for ubuntu, hit enter, and autocompletion search for "ubuntu with naked goat"
[06:55] <PhinnFort> or something like that
[06:55] <PhinnFort> very irritating
[06:56] <tominglis> hi, i am unable to edit the KDE menu using kmenuedit - i can change the order of things, create new folders and line breaks, but cannot edit or create shortcuts. does anyone know what is wrong?
[06:56] <dromer> Q: how can I make thunderbird open on startup? (preferably on desktop 4)
[06:56] <PhinnFort> tuco: have you tried http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon
[06:56] <Dr_willis> tuco,  after the  stuff ive seen/learned about canon printers and linux.. i dont plan on buying another canon printer... for.. well a long time.. :)
[06:56] <waylandbill> !autostart
[06:56] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:56] <tuco> This is where I went Phinn ;-)
[06:56] <PhinnFort> dromer: open "~/.kde/Autostart" in Konqi, and drag the link from the K-Menu there
[06:56] <PhinnFort> ;P
[06:57] <tuco> I've added the repo too
[06:57] <cntb> Dr_willis: what is wrong with canon
[06:57] <dromer> PhinnFort: wow thnx, how can I make it open on desktop 4?
[06:57] <tuco> It really annoyes me...when I try to print, it shows prinitng and does nothing
[06:57] <PhinnFort> dromer: i'm not really sure
[06:57] <Dr_willis> cntb,  very lacking in linux support which is a  DealKiller for me.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> cntb,  i like the printers.. but the lack of drivers well.. if i cant use the printer.. its a doorstop
[06:58] <timster> Is there a short cut to skip to the screensaver?
[06:58] <PhinnFort> dromer: when you have it open, right click on the top-bar (where the name is) and "Configure Window Behavior"
[06:58] <timster> !screensaver
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I wonder if i could set up vmware with windows98 to just run/share the canon pixima printer i got.
[06:58] <tuco> Well does it mean that I am stuck with a printer not working under Linux then?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> tuco,  depends on the exact printer.. your luck and milliage may very.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> vary
[06:59] <tuco> its' the printer with the scanner and photocopier plus sd card slots
[06:59] <PhinnFort> tuco: i'm sorry, i don't know much about printers
[06:59] <Dr_willis> tuco,  that describes half of them on the market right now. :)
[06:59] <PhinnFort> tuco: i would try contacting Canon
[06:59] <timster> !repo
[06:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:59] <Dr_willis> That comercial driver package of the CUPS stuff 'may' have better support for them.
[06:59] <tuco> if they are as good as sony I wouldnt bet my two pens
[06:59] <waylandbill> HP has good printer support. They even supply the drivers to the community.
[06:59] <elbing> linuxprinting.org
[06:59] <tuco> pennies
[07:00] <timster> ping
[07:00] <timster> oops
[07:00] <PhinnFort> dromer: "Window specific settings" -> New -> Geometry -> "Desktop" -> 4
[07:00] <timster> !ping
[07:00] <ubotu> pong
[07:00] <digitx> :)
[07:00] <om3ga> well i guess its back to ubuntu
[07:00] <tuco> Canon fodder!
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Yep. HP gets a thumb up.. but the *#&@&@ ink costs so much for some of these things  -
[07:00] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:00] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: refill?
[07:00] <PhinnFort> but now i need some food, frozen pizza is good
[07:00] <dromer> PhinnFort: thnx, do you know also how I could startup a program that's not in the menu?  I have synergys (the server for synergy)
[07:00] <Dr_willis> PhinnFort,  ever have to clean that stuff up>? :)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !synergy
[07:01] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1460 kB
[07:01] <PF-Away> dromer: right click in the folder, Create New, link to application
[07:01] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: yeah. certain models have insane cart prices.
[07:01] <tuco> Frozen pizza is yuk...heugggh!
[07:01] <PF-Away> Dr_willis: never done it myself
[07:01] <Dr_willis> dromer,  make a script that starts it. and put it in the Autostart dir..
[07:01] <PF-Away> i save trees
[07:01] <_eMaX_> anyone knows whether it is normal that when moving over the "powersave" applet in the kde ticker, the cpu frequency is always displayed to be at 800 mhz?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> dromer,  or set it up where kdm starts it.
[07:01] <smaggard> ack i cant get my ati card to show up in fglrxinfo just the mesa crap
[07:01] <elbing> add a script as a service under init.d
[07:02] <rouzic> w32codecs for feisty?
[07:02] <dromer> PF-Away / Dr_willis: I'm not sure how to do this, all I know is the command to start it is synergys
[07:02] <Dr_willis> rouzic,  get the deb from the mplayer site? i doubt if the pacjkage has any changes..
[07:02] <rouzic> thanks Dr_willis
[07:03] <Dr_willis> dromer,  make a script that has 2 lines.. #1 -- #!/bin/sh    #2 sungerywhatevercommand
[07:03] <PF-Away> dromer: just type in the command
[07:03] <Dr_willis> chmod +x the file... move it to Autostart dir.
[07:03] <PF-Away> dromer: [19:01]  <PF-Away> dromer: right click in the folder, Create New, link to application
[07:03] <dromer> thnx
[07:03] <Dr_willis> The syngery homepage i think has some info on this  and some things to watch out for
[07:03] <PF-Away> dromer: and then click "Application" -> "Command", type in command
[07:04] <PF-Away> that's the KDE way
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !find autostart
[07:04] <ubotu> Found: kcontrol-autostart
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !info kcontrol-autostart
[07:04] <ubotu> kcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 268 kB
[07:04] <Dr_willis> The kcontrol-autostart  is a handy tool to use also
[07:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> if I want to do "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/hello" every time I restart my computer, how can I do that?
[07:04] <dhq> when will blender the new version come in repos
[07:04] <dams__> hi all
[07:04] <PF-Away> !ktorrent
[07:04] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[07:04] <PF-Away> !ktorrent21
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent21 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <PF-Away> it's in the repos, i found it
[07:05] <PF-Away> but it won't come to me
[07:05] <dromer> PF-Away: ok :)  theres more to the server btw, but it's to do with a ssh-port and the client, but I think I'll have to do that matually
[07:05] <PF-Away> ok
[07:05] <waylandbill> dettoaltrimenti_: add to your /etc/fstab
[07:05] <dams__> somebody  experiencing problem with a-foto on superkaramba
[07:05] <dams__> ??
[07:05] <XenThraL> anyone know a guide to get daemon tools running in kubuntu?
[07:05] <PF-Away> dams__: i've used it before no problem
[07:06] <Dr_willis>  daemon tools  - as in the 'fake cd copy protection tool for windows' ?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> one of the WORSE named programs ive ever seen. :)
[07:06] <XenThraL> yes
[07:06] <dams__> got this msg "Call to widgetUpdated failed"! any idea
[07:07] <dams__> ?
[07:07] <Dr_willis> XenThraL,  Good LUCK with that.. i doubt if its doable.. outside of using vmware and a whole emulated os.
[07:07] <XenThraL> hummmm
[07:07] <jermain[reading] > Dams_: i think your call to WidgetUpdated failed
[07:07] <Dr_willis> CDemu for Linux is very similar to Daemon Tools for windows. It allows you to mount a bin/cue CD image as a virtual CDROM.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> is what google showed. :)
[07:08] <om3ga> to switch to ubuntu desktop i just need to install ubuntu desktop through adet right
[07:08] <waylandbill> but iso's can just be loop mounted easy enough.
[07:08] <jermain[reading] > Dams_: :) j/k i have no idea
[07:08] <SeanTater> I "downloaded" a kate syntax file, an update for python. I want to go back to the old one, how do I do that?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> of course it depends on wha tyou are doing with DeamonTools - there may be alternatives that do what you need.
[07:09] <waylandbill> om3ga: yes. that will make gdm the desktop manager and add the gnome desktop
[07:09] <dams__> ty
[07:09] <om3ga> ok
[07:10] <mefisto__> something's wrong with my menu. hovering the mouse over the multimedia submenu crashes the panel. also, menu editor crashes when I try to edit the multimedia submenu
[07:11] <Cugel> mefisto: still having the problem?
[07:11] <om3ga> so when i restart i will be in ubuntu i guess?
[07:11] <mefisto__> Cugel: yep.
[07:11] <Cugel> omega: of coursel.
[07:11] <Cugel> mefisto: what have you tried already.
[07:11] <skywalker_> how do I find out what servers are running?
[07:12] <mike> Can I install synaptic package manager in kubuntu?
[07:12] <isioma> yea how do i find out what severs are running
[07:12] <Cugel> mike: of course.
[07:12] <waylandbill> om3ga: with KDE available from the session menu and all the install kde apps available in gnome, but other than that, yes
[07:12] <om3ga> nice sounds even better i can go between the two
[07:12] <schisms> How would I go about that?
[07:12] <mefisto__> Cugel: I've looked for /menu folders, trying to track down what's stopping the multimedia menu from working
[07:13] <schisms> I just made the switch to Kubuntu today.
[07:13] <Cugel> You should be able to edit a file -- I'm not sure what file though.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> do what?
[07:13] <om3ga> adet isnt bad
[07:13] <om3ga> schisms: adept isnt bad
[07:13] <schisms> install synaptic package manager in kubuntu
[07:14] <schisms> Oh, I'm too used to synaptic.
[07:14] <Cugel> mefisto: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=363449
[07:14] <tuco> guys with printers problem: http://www.turboprint.info/
[07:14] <waylandbill> just install synaptic package.
[07:14] <Cugel> tuco: isn't that some commercial thing?
[07:14] <ghetek> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:14] <ghetek> how do i fix this one?
[07:14] <tuco> is it? I just found it
[07:15] <schisms> Actually what I really need are the synaptic repositories.  I want to install camorama
[07:15] <Cugel> Google for it -- it's a known 'solution' but they try and sell it.
[07:15] <Cugel> schisms: sudo apt-get camorama (from console)
[07:15] <skywalker_> I upgraded xubuntu form ubuntu and I dont see a diffence
[07:16] <skywalker_> did I do it right?
[07:16] <Cugel> No difference? No, then.;
[07:16] <skywalker_> k
[07:16] <schisms> Can't find the package camorama
[07:16] <ghetek> there is no audio coming out of my amarok. it comes out of my laptop speakers but does not work when docked (the dock is connected to my larger speaker system) when i boot into windows all works well. so i know it isnt a wiring issue
[07:17] <skywalker_> but at the logging screen Cugel it says xubuntu
[07:17] <skywalker_> loggin*
[07:17] <om3ga> xubuntu is more of a down grade i would thgink
[07:17] <Cugel> skywalker: select KDE from the session options?
[07:17] <Cugel> I'm confused.
[07:17] <skywalker_> mmm I heard it was an upgrade
[07:18] <schisms> All I want to do is install camorama in kubuntu, can someone point me to the right repositories?
[07:18] <eddy> hi
[07:18] <skywalker_> I got to install KDE
[07:18] <Cugel> Xubuntu is ubuntu running XFCE -- nothing to do with KDE etc.
[07:18] <skywalker_> I aways used kde
[07:18] <eddy> anyone czech in here?
[07:18] <eddy> je tu ech?
[07:18] <skywalker_> ahhhh ok Cugel thank you
[07:18] <skywalker_> I will choose that session
[07:18] <Cugel> schisms: get the deb file at http://camorama.fixedgear.org/download.php
[07:18] <om3ga> xumbuntu is kind of empty to me i have used it live
[07:19] <schisms> thanks
[07:19] <Cugel> download that deb file to your home folder, then do dpkg -i *.deb (in your home folder). Does the trick!
[07:19] <Cugel> oh and add sudo to that.
[07:19] <skywalker_> I been useing linux for a few years and it is far more better then windows but deb is new to me
[07:20] <Cugel> .deb is a Debian file -- and since Ubuntu is a version of Debian...
[07:20] <waylandbill> a derivative of debian. I wouldn't go installing debian packages in ubuntu unless you know what you're doing.
[07:20] <Cugel> Let me know if it works -- it works fine on my machine anyway.
[07:21] <Cugel> wayland: if you don't run into lots of dependency errors (I know I've done that) then there should be no problem at all.
[07:21] <waylandbill> I mean from debian's repos of course.
[07:21] <Cugel> well if apt-get works then I always go with that.
[07:22] <skywalker_> I dont think its that hard  waylandbill but then it depends on what your trying to do
[07:22] <schisms> how do I install the .deb?
[07:22] <schisms> I'm so used to gnome
[07:22] <Cugel> schisms: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[07:22] <waylandbill> due to configuration differences in debian and ubuntu, there is risk.
[07:22] <schisms> thanks
[07:22] <Dr_willis> normally one uses the package manager and lets it download/install the debs
[07:22] <Cugel> Well for camorama there are no risks, it's quite a simple program.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> but i just am seeing the tail end of this conversation. :)
[07:22] <skywalker_> I hardly used Gnome this is as much as I ever used thois
[07:22] <Cugel> As I've said already, don't be afraid of that command line.
[07:23] <skywalker_> this*
[07:23] <skywalker_> waylandbill what are the risk's
[07:23] <Dr_willis> 'come over to the console side!'
[07:23] <cpk1> I am dissapointed with mplayer -vo caca though, the video gets way behind the audio
[07:24] <cpk1> if that worked well for me then it would be lots more fun to use tty6 and below =P
[07:24] <waylandbill> skywalker_: having incompatible configurations. I can assure you if you ask in debian's irc channel they will tell you not to use official debian packages in ubuntu. :-)
[07:24] <skywalker_> I had a problem installing VMPlayer
[07:24] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  if you wach only Kung-Fu movies - it dosent matter...
[07:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <skywalker_> ahhh ok thanks
[07:24] <schisms> Gave me an error
[07:25] <schisms> Strange
[07:25] <cpk1> Dr_willis: lol
[07:25] <Cugel> What is the error.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> "Drunken Master" = My Fave.
[07:25] <Cugel> Dependency on some package, I presume.
[07:25] <cpk1> I even resized my tty's so it would be viable but I think the video is double framing
[07:25] <waylandbill> gotta run. happy computing
[07:25] <skywalker_> anyone see the PC vs MAC commerical with the firewall dude?
[07:26] <cpk1> libcaca is actually surprisingly good though
[07:26] <schisms> What would be the easiest way to install camorama?
[07:26] <schisms> Again, new to kde.
[07:26] <cpk1> what does camorama do?
[07:26] <schisms> webcam viewer
[07:26] <cpk1> also, its in the repos
[07:27] <cpk1> so use your favorite apt frontend
[07:28] <guiden> I can't watch the movies on youtube and google vide with konqueror, what should I do?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> guiden,  install the flash player yet?
[07:28] <guiden> nope
[07:28] <Dr_willis> well thats step 1 i guess
[07:28] <guiden> ok
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:29] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:29] <guiden> is there a plugin for flash in konqueror?
[07:29] <Gtwy> are there any useful X11 apps for a server that give you statistics or show bandwidth or do anything neat?
[07:29] <guiden> OK thanks
[07:29] <Dr_willis> konqueror 'should' see/use the firefox plugins as far as i know
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Gtwy,  oodles of apps that show ooodles of things.. :)
[07:29] <Gtwy> Dr_willis: just asking for a few packages off the top of anyones head
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Gtwy,  superkaramba has lots of desktop widgets.. or theres the windowmaker dock apps.. or theres some kde-panel-applets
[07:30] <guiden> why does kubuntu use open office and not koffice?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want to watch/see
[07:32] <guiden> Dr_willis there is no flash in add/remove programs
[07:33] <mneisen> Hi, I am using beryl on KDE 3.5.6/Kubuntu Edgy Eft. I Installed and configured everything according to the wiki. My problem: katapult is not starting anymore. Any guess?
[07:33] <mefisto__> when I restart kicker from console, I get "QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)" Is it normal to see that message, or could this be related to my problem menu?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> guiden,  check the box's that show comercial/whatever stuff perhaps? or follow the !flash guide the bot posted.
[07:38] <guiden> ok
[07:38] <mike> How do I enable the installing of gnome programs in adept?
[07:40] <mike> hello?
[07:40] <noxs> hi all.....someone german?
[07:40] <belle> ciao
[07:40] <mike> How do I enable the installing of gnome programs in adept?
[07:41] <cntb> !de
[07:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:41] <belle> ce qualche italiano?
[07:41] <cntb> ha
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: should be in there
[07:41] <cntb> !it
[07:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:41] <cntb> belle LJl is
[07:42] <cntb> va bene ?
[07:42] <belle> grazie
[07:42] <jesusx> hello ~
[07:42] <mike> How do I enable the installing of gnome programs in adept?
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: gnome apps are there as well.
[07:43] <jesusx> sudo apt-get install
[07:43] <mike> But it doesn't allow me to install them
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: what do you mean it doesn't allow you
[07:43] <jesusx> sodo
[07:43] <jesusx> sudo
[07:43] <mike> They aren't lit up, and I cannot x them for installation
[07:43] <jesusx> use 'sudo'
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: in run command type: kdesu adept_manager
[07:44] <smaggard> hey
[07:44] <mike> now what?
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> should work if you hit ener
[07:45] <mike> what do I do in adept manager?
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> try to install gnome apps
[07:46] <mike> alright
[07:46] <mneisen> Hi, I am using beryl on KDE 3.5.6/Kubuntu Edgy Eft. I Installed and configured everything according to the wiki. My problem: katapult is not starting anymore. Any guess?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> beryl may be taking over the katapult key sequence - so if it is starting - you just cant activate it
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> mneisen: yes, beryl is crashing katapult
[07:48] <kvizac> hello
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> the background image is theproblem
[07:48] <fignew> mneisen/Admiral: my katapult works fine
[07:48] <fignew> I just had to rebind the key
[07:48] <mneisen> Admiral_Chicago: But not always. It used to work here on my home machine (ATI + fglrx +XGL + beryl) and on my machine at work (Intel + x.org + beryl).
[07:48] <mneisen> fignew: how?
[07:49] <fignew> ohh, actually, mneisen, go to be beryl prefs
[07:49] <fignew> through the systray icon
[07:49] <frank___> hey...i have trouble with superkaramba...i had to shut it down and now there are some things i downloaded (rss feed reader, stock watcher) missing in my list....but the problem is, that i cant downlaod them anymore! whats the problem
[07:49] <fignew> and there's something in beryl that has the <alt> space binding
[07:49] <mneisen> fignew: ok, and now ...?
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> mneisen: crashed it on my XGL + beryl + Nvidia
[07:49] <fignew> do a search for space :)
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> mneisen: but i use free drivers now. so...
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> afk
[07:50] <fignew> NV driver works with beryl?
[07:50] <fignew> ohh crap, I gotta get going too, have class in 10 minutes
[07:50] <fignew> did that work mneisen?
[07:51] <mneisen> fignew: could not find this setting ...
[07:51] <mneisen> :-(
[07:51] <eddy> hey
[07:51] <eddy> does it exist in kubuntu a 3d desktop?
[07:51] <mike> Still won't let me download camorama
[07:51] <fignew> mneisen: 1 sec
[07:51] <mneisen> fignew: got it :-D
[07:52] <fignew> sweet :)
[07:52] <mneisen> oh yes.
[07:52] <mneisen> fignew: thank you so much.
[07:52] <mneisen> have to restart, though.
[07:52] <mneisen> :-D
[07:52] <mneisen> bye
[07:52] <fignew> :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> i never use it.
[07:53] <fignew> Dr_willis: you're missing out :)
[07:53] <frank___> hey...i have trouble with superkaramba...i had to shut it down and now there are some things i downloaded (rss feed reader, stock watcher) missing in my list....but the problem is, that i cant downlaod them anymore! whats the problem
[07:53] <Dr_willis> given all the eye-candy-obsession lately.. im about to start usign Matchbox or JWM as my main window manager. :)
[07:54] <mneisen> ^^
[07:54] <eddy> hey, anyone, can i have a 3D desktop on Kubuntu?
[07:54] <mneisen> eddy: Yes, try beryl or compiz.
[07:54] <mneisen> !compiz
[07:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <mneisen> !beryl
[07:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <Dr_willis> i normally set up kde to use the windows-keybindings.. so alt-cpace gibves me the window-menu. :()
[07:54] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[08:03] <slyfox> Has anyone successfuly synced their phonebook with their mobile phone via bluetooth? Help.
[08:04] <frank___> hey...i have trouble with superkaramba...i had to shut it down and now there are some things i downloaded (rss feed reader, stock watcher) missing in my list....but the problem is, that i cant downlaod them anymore! whats the problem
[08:05] <tominglis> hi, i am unable to edit the KDE menu using kmenuedit - i can change the order of things, create new folders and line breaks, but cannot edit or create shortcuts. does anyone know what is wrong?
[08:05] <noxs> nabend
[08:05] <tominglis> nob end?
[08:06] <noxs> mein problem: ich habe keine umlaute und kein pipe-zeichen und/oder at-zeichen.-...in xorg.conf schon gebastelt...nix.....locales neu konfiguriert...nix..
[08:07] <noxs> auf konsole wechseln mit alt-strg-F1......8 geht auch nimmer...
[08:07] <digitx> http://digitx.homelinux.org:1234/?u=username&p=password
[08:09] <eMaX> re
[08:09] <eMaX> ne1 here knows why the performance / power daemon applet in the kde kicker would constantly show one given cpu frequency (like 800 MHz on my system)
[08:11] <orbitando_> ciao
[08:11] <orbitando_> qualche italiano ?
[08:11] <eMaX> !it
[08:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:11] <Gandja_>  /j hideaway
[08:16] <mike> How do I enable the installation of gnome programs in adept?
[08:16] <mike> This is what I see when I try to install them
[08:16] <mike> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/safersquall/snapshot1.png
[08:17] <timster> Is there a KDE Menu replacement like KBFX?
[08:17] <timster> But not KBFX
[08:18] <chavo> timster, there is the Suse one called kickoff
[08:18] <mike> I really want to install camorama
[08:18] <timster> Any others
[08:18] <mike> But adept won't let me
[08:18] <chavo> there is a kubuntu deb for it
[08:19] <chavo> I believe that's it
[08:19] <timster> Okay
[08:19] <timster> Kickoff, how can I install it?
[08:19] <smaggard> hey
[08:19] <gdiebel> eMaX: what is the cpu?
[08:19] <mike> I tried installing the deb but it had an error
[08:20] <smaggard> edgy and ati xpress 200m. cant get the fglrxinfo to report anything but the mesa driver, but xorg has fglrx and also i can modprobe fglrx
[08:20] <eMaX> some sort of manually assembled wire mashup sitting under my keyboard
[08:20] <smaggard> any ideas ive been googling for a few hours now
[08:20] <chavo> timster, are you on edgy?
[08:20] <smaggard> and ive run into this before but i forgot what i had to do
[08:20] <timster> 6.06
[08:21] <mike> I just want to install a gnome app on kde, but apedt won't let me. Any ideas?
[08:21] <mike> *adept
[08:21] <timster> Which is dapper
[08:21] <chavo> the deb is for edgy
[08:21] <timster> Ah
[08:21] <timster> Darn
[08:21] <chavo> you can try it tho] 
[08:21] <chavo> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=50240
[08:22] <chavo> you can always reinstall the normal kicker if it fails
[08:22] <jhutchins> mike: I'm pretty sure I've had it installed.  What do you mean it "won't let you"?
[08:22] <schisms> I just want to install a gnome app on kde, but adept won't let me. Any ideas?
[08:22] <schisms> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/safersquall/snapshot1.png
[08:22] <eMaX> gdiebel: or something like /proc/acpi/processor/CPU, giving me also access to /proc/acpi/processor/CPU/power
[08:22] <schisms> See?
[08:22] <schisms> I can't select it.
[08:22] <schisms> And I tried sudoing it
[08:22] <chavo> schisms, don't repeat so often
[08:22] <schisms> I've been trying to get this to work for hours though.
[08:23] <l33testmort> hi, trouble compiling from source rdesktop 1.4.1. log is here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/37440    help anyone? some dep is missing and cant figure out wich one
[08:23] <Gtwy> what package is statfs in
[08:24] <jhutchins> schisms: What happens if you do sudo apt-get install f-spot ?
[08:24] <jhutchins> Gtwy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[08:25] <schisms> argh, can't try it right now, doing a full upgrade
[08:25] <chavo> l33testmort, why are you compiling?
[08:25] <LycanNyc-work> how do i install proper openoffice.org for kde ?
[08:25] <jhutchins> l33testmort: This is why we use apt to manage packages and dependencies.
[08:25] <jhutchins> LycanNyc-work: apt-get openoffice?
[08:26] <schisms> It should be preinstalled
[08:26] <l33testmort> chavo, because i wanted to patch rdesktop
[08:26] <jhutchins> LycanNyc-work: no, it's sudo apt-get install openoffice
[08:26] <LycanNyc-work> rolf
[08:26] <gdiebel> eMaX: is your cpu supposed to change frequency (ie speedstep)? if so the kicker applet does not always reflect the values the kernel shows in /sys/devices/system/cpu/*. insert other kernel abstractions as you wish
[08:26] <chavo> l33testmort, sudo apt-get build-dep rdesktop
[08:26] <guiden_> should I restart the computer after I updated packages?
[08:26] <LycanNyc-work> for some reason i dont like rdesktop or krdc .. i prefer tsclient
[08:27] <jermain> >,> does anyone have experience with databases in open office?
[08:28] <chavo> schisms, did you try running adetp mamnger insted of add/remove
[08:28] <eMaX> well actually the max frequency should be 2.1 GHz yet /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq keeps reporting 800MHz
[08:28] <schisms> yeah
[08:28] <schisms> Nothing
[08:28] <schisms> I don't know why it won't let me select it to download
[08:28] <chavo> wierd, how about apt-get install on the command line?
[08:28] <schisms> Didn't work either, package not found
[08:28] <gdiebel> eMaX: yeah it is probably speedstepping
[08:29] <chavo> sounds like maybe the cd is the only soure in your sources.list
[08:29] <eMaX> that means I'm not getting that info anywhere?
[08:29] <eMaX> gdiebel: from /proc/acpi/processor/CPU/power I see the CPU is mostly running in C2 (from C1, C2, C3), sometimes in C3. When I disable usb modules, it is mostly C3.
[08:30] <r3factored> anyone have any ideas why i have to turn my volume up to the max to hear it? (other than being deaf which im not)- im using the HDA nvidia (intel) chipset
[08:31] <schisms> I have the same problem with my laptop speakers
[08:31] <gdiebel> eMaX: core2 duo?
[08:31] <eMaX> no
[08:31] <johey> Can I configure the special "multimedia" keys on my keyboard to act hotkeys for my programs?
[08:31] <eMaX> just a thinkpad t43p
[08:31] <r3factored> schisms: its very odd - the sound isnt muffled just low
[08:31] <chavo> r3factored, is the PCM channel turned down?
[08:31] <eMaX> gdiebel: scaling_available_frequences says 2133000 1866000 1600000 1333000 1066000 800000
[08:31] <r3factored> chavo: no its turned all the way up
[08:32] <Adydaz> err
[08:32] <Adydaz> wtf does this mean
[08:32] <Adydaz> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2006-10-26 03:03 srv
[08:32] <Adydaz> ?---------   ? ?    ?        ?                ? store
[08:32] <Adydaz> drwxr-xr-x  11 root root     0 2007-02-27 20:42 sys
[08:32] <r3factored> its a 7.1 audio setup - im using the front speakers
[08:32] <Adydaz> ?--------- ??    ?        ?                        ? store
[08:32] <r3factored> im going to try the other jacks
[08:33] <r3factored> nope all same level
[08:33] <gdiebel> eMaX: is it actually stepping up to higher freq on load?
[08:35] <just22> hi, may u know anything about iPhone?
[08:35] <Cugel> just22: why do you ask here?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> help please, I get throwed back to kdm greet everytime I boot
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> it takes my password
[08:36] <just22> whwere do i have to?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> it just won't start
[08:36] <Cugel> #apple?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> I checked dmesg for errors
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> nothing
[08:36] <just22> thanks;-)
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> nothin
[08:36] <eMaX> gdiebel: no
[08:36] <Cugel> What do you mean 'don't start'. What happens exactly?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> I'm under windows
[08:36] <eMaX> I have 100 % cpu load due to fgl_glxgears
[08:37] <eMaX> stays at 800 MHz
[08:37] <DarkWizzard> I get throwed back to the login screen
[08:37] <Cugel> DarkW: time to find some real log file -- apparently something crashes badly.
[08:37] <eMaX> gdiebel:  the temperature of the cpu goes up by like 10C though
[08:38] <Zhanev> i have continuous timeouts on kopete (msn) since I installed an ADSL router between the computer and the modem, anyone can help?
[08:38] <DarkWizzard> what should I search for ?
[08:39] <Cugel> Darkw: maybe reboot and use failsafe mode?
[08:39] <Zhanev> it also happens on amsn, and i properly configured port forwarding (with some googled instructions)
[08:39] <eMaX> hmm. should perhaps switch my fan on
[08:39] <Cugel> Zhanev: are you sure port forwarding really works?
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> I tryed
[08:39] <Zhanev> how can i make sure?
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> recovery mode
[08:39] <timster> How can I install MySql
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> switching the login screen to failsafe
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> starting x from the command line
[08:39] <Cugel> Zhanev: use some service (on the web) to ping that port.
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> x works
[08:39] <timster> !mysql
[08:39] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> I just get throwed back to the login screen
[08:40] <n8k99> timster: sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:40] <Zhanev> well, i also configured the port thing for amule cause i had low id and the problem was solved
[08:40] <timster> n8k99: how do I access all the database management
[08:40] <Cugel> http://www.whatsmyip.org/ports/
[08:41] <eddy> hey, please, can anyone tell me, how to install a program? I'm a real beginner with linux
[08:41] <gdiebel> eMaX: perhaps the scaling_governor is set to powersave mode or whatever they call it
[08:41] <timster> eddy: what program is it?
[08:41] <Cugel> eddy: you use the Synaptic manager.
[08:41] <n8k99> timster: that is a different sort of question than installing i believe
[08:41] <Zhanev> Cugel: checking the adress you gave me, ty
[08:41] <timster> Heh, lol
[08:41] <eddy> Beryl
[08:41] <timster> lol
[08:41] <timster> I need to be able to use it :p
[08:41] <n8k99> there is a kde graphical frontend in the repos as well timster
[08:42] <gdiebel> eMaX:  echo 'ondemand' > /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[08:42] <Cugel> Wait a minute, you're new to Linux and already you want to install Beryl?
[08:42] <eddy> qhat's a synaptic manager?
[08:42] <Cugel> I strongly do not recommend that.
[08:42] <eddy> what*
[08:42] <eddy> why?
[08:42] <parkerw207> beryl is tricky at the best of times
[08:42] <parkerw207> especially for a newbie
[08:42] <Cugel> Well, to install/run Beryl I recommend knowing a bit more about Linux in general.
[08:42] <parkerw207> and i cound myself as a newbie :P
[08:43] <timster> Mysql doesnt exist in the reppos
[08:43] <Cugel> I mean, if you don't get a screen when you reboot (after installing it) -- do you know what to do about it?
[08:43] <timster> Does it have another name?
[08:43] <n8k99> then timster this is for you !mysql
[08:43] <Cugel> timster: try apt-cache search mysql
[08:43] <eddy> I know a bit about linux in general
[08:43] <eMaX> gdiebel:
[08:43] <eMaX> same thing
[08:44] <eMaX> was even at "Performance"
[08:44] <timster> Cugel: Which one is it though, there are hundreds
[08:44] <eddy> I would probably login as root
[08:44] <timster> !mysql
[08:44] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:44] <eddy> and try to uninstall it
[08:44] <eMaX> gdiebel:  btw I wonder which cpu temperature is still tolerable - since I'm running fgl_glxgears the temperature moved up from 60C to 75C
[08:44] <eddy> OR try to find some information on the Inet
[08:44] <Cugel> In that case, eddy: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:44] <bigleon> Question, I got Kubunto 6.06, and i want to get into myspace chat. Unfornately, I need Macromedia(I dl'ed file provided by the Konqueror link) I haave not a clue how to install Manually.
[08:45] <gdiebel> eMaX: not sure what else to check atm. good luck
[08:45] <eMaX> tnx
[08:45] <Cugel> You do need to change your sources.list file. So you do need the command line etc.
[08:46] <timster> !flash bigleon
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash bigleon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <eddy> Cugel, thx for caring, but, how do I use those commands as install, makeinstall or config, as written in the README file?
[08:47] <bigleon> It doesn't know anything Timster
[08:47] <timster> !flash
[08:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <Cugel> eddy: no need for those.
[08:47] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:47] <timster> It should
[08:47] <bigleon> lol
[08:47] <bigleon> !backports
[08:47] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:47] <timster> Cugel: what package is flash again?
[08:47] <Cugel> You need to add some repositories so that you can install beryl. Can someone point him to a manual for synaptic?
[08:47] <Cugel> !synaptic
[08:47] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:47] <Cugel> That.
[08:48] <Cugel> eddy: all you need to know is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[08:50] <eddy> thank you very much, guys!!!
[08:50] <bigleon> Another question, How many Video cards can Kubuntu support? IS it possible to put in like 4 PCI and 1 AGP cards?
[08:50] <eddy> bye for now
[08:51] <chavo> bigleon, sure you'll have fun writing your xorg.conf but it should work
[08:51] <bigleon> Lol so no plug in play i would asume...
[08:51] <Cugel> Poor eddy.
[08:51] <bigleon> The file xorg.conf sounds like a nitemare alone.
[08:52] <Cugel> bigleon: don't let it scare you -- no wait, let it.
[08:52] <Cugel> One mistyped comma and you'll suffer. Always back up xorg.conf, even if you only open it.
[08:53] <bigleon> Lol... Yeah... I might get one ofmy linux junky friends, and be like "Make it work please"
[08:53] <Cugel> The number of video cards shouldn't be a problem -- but you need to add them to xorg.conf alright.
[08:53] <bigleon> Hmmm is there a guide any where?
[08:54] <Cugel> google for 'xorg.conf guide'
[08:54] <bigleon> Okay thanks :D
[08:55] <parkerw207> how would i install a distro to an external hard drive ?
[08:58] <guiden_> I can't find a direct connect client for kde, is there one?
[08:59] <schisms> Man, I still can't get camorama to work
[08:59] <schisms> Can I get a link to the debs again?  I'm going to try another
[09:01] <Zhanev> Cugel: I changed the configuration of the router from "port forwarding" to "port triggering", hope it makes the trick... thank you btw
[09:03] <xBill> sers @ all
[09:03] <mikecb> has anyone else had a problem with adept after update today?
[09:04] <mikecb> its just gone
[09:04] <timster> Kopete replacement anyone?
[09:04] <xBill> timster: gaim ?
[09:04] <timster> I installed it, but It hasnt shown up on my app list
[09:05] <xBill> K-menu -> "run command" -> enter gaim -> hope it starts
[09:06] <timster> xBill: It worked
[09:06] <xBill> fine
[09:07] <xBill> :-)
[09:07] <timster> lol
[09:07] <xBill> timster : y?
[09:09] <timster> I hate Kopete
[09:13] <mneisen> fignew: Thanks for your help - everything works now!
[09:16] <guiden_> I can't find a guide to install propertary drivers in kubuntu, only ubuntu
[09:17] <xBill> ati ? nvidia ?
[09:18] <Eruantalon> I have some cd's which might be scratched I would like to copy them to my hardrive to try and install from there. What would be the best fault-tolerant program for cd-copying?
[09:18] <ratbert90> hello
[09:19] <ratbert90> is there a way to make quanta upload to a sftp server when I hit save?
[09:19] <BluesKaj> Eruantalon, K3B should do it
[09:19] <guiden_> ati
[09:20] <Eruantalon> BluesKaj: Well it hangs on errors
[09:20] <apol> hi, I'm installing feisty and when I'm installing it, at the prepare mountpoints step, it tells me "invalid mount point" and doesn't let me continue
[09:20] <apol> any idea about it?
[09:21] <Eruantalon> Is there a program that will continue or do something reasonable about unreadable sectors?
[09:21] <yannick> Hello, how to import outlook pst (on usb key) to my kubuntu thunderBird THANKS...
[09:21] <xBill> guiden: there are some packages with fglrx in synaptic/adept, i'm also trying to get it installed
[09:22] <schisms> I just want to install a gnome app on kde, but adept won't let me. Any ideas?
[09:22] <hellcattrav> hi all
[09:23] <gdiebel> ratbert90: use the power of kioslaves. just enter "sftp://user@host:file" into the save dialog
[09:24] <guiden_> xBill, I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:24] <BluesKaj> schisms, most gnome apps have kde equivalents
[09:24] <ratbert90> gdiebel, how about ssh?
[09:25] <mneisen> !fglrx
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:25] <gdiebel> ratbert90: fish://user@host:file
[09:25] <xBill> guiden : looks good
[09:25] <ratbert90> nice
[09:26] <mefisto__> schisms: Adept won't let you? what do you mean?
[09:26] <schisms> I'm trying to install camorama
[09:26] <schisms> And it won't let me select it in adept
[09:26] <agente2012> hi
[09:26] <ratbert90> last question.  Is there a way to make quanta upload automaticly via creating a profile?
[09:26] <gdiebel> ratbert90: yes verrrry niiice,
[09:27] <hellcattrav> yo
[09:27] <cpk1> schisms: do you have multiverse/universe enabled?
[09:28] <mefisto__> schisms: have you found it in adept?
[09:28] <xBill> ubotu: does is work the same with feisty ?
[09:28] <guiden_> ubotu is a bot
[09:28] <thelostbyte_> does fiesty come with kde 4 ?
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <schisms> how do I enable them?
[09:28] <schisms> I'm new to kde
[09:28] <BluesKaj> Eruantalon, have you tried 'todisc' , it may work
[09:29] <gdiebel> ratbert90: not sure what you mean
[09:29] <cpk1> schisms: are you using adept?
[09:29] <schisms> yeah
[09:29] <cpk1> schisms: go to view > manage repositories
[09:30] <schisms> in adept installer?
[09:30] <cpk1> schisms: yes
[09:30] <schisms> alright
[09:31] <ratbert90> gdiebel, project > new profile
[09:31] <cpk1> schisms: there is probably a line with multiverse that is commented out, I believe the default list tells you what to do to enable it
[09:31] <SSJ_GZ> |lostbyte|: Not by default, no.  See e.g. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKde4Plan
[09:31] <ratbert90> you can have it set up supposidly to have quanta just grab everything automaticly right from the ftp/ssh
[09:32] <|lostbyte|> k.. tx
[09:32] <donovan> hallo
[09:32] <donovan> ich brauche dringend hilfe mit kubuntu
[09:32] <rahmetli> i tried to create new menu entries, which is a command should work in console,when i click it konsole opens and suddenly wanishes.
[09:32] <donovan> ich mach grad n upgrade von dapper auf edgy
[09:33] <xBill> donovan: eigntlich steht in der motd ja _nur_ english
[09:33] <xBill> aber als her damit
[09:33] <donovan> sry. we can do this in english too...
[09:34] <xBill> ok
[09:34] <xBill> :)
[09:34] <donovan> adept says: "Errors were encountered while processing: lsb-base"
[09:34] <donovan> then it cancels the update procedure.
[09:34] <donovan> don't know what to do now.
[09:35] <Cugel> donovan: try and do it from the command line (whatever you're installing).
[09:35] <donovan> it configured some of the packages already
[09:35] <Cugel> Maybe it'll give you some more information.
[09:35] <nasab> ubuntu
[09:35] <nasab> #ubuntu
[09:35] <Cugel> Eh, yes?
[09:35] <donovan> @cugel: i do a dist-upgrade.
[09:35] <xBill> donovan: aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:36] <xBill> from the command line
[09:36] <donovan> wait a sec
[09:37] <gdiebel> ratbert90: yes you can do that with projects
[09:37] <rahmetli> i tried to create new menu entries, which is a command should work in console,when i click it konsole opens and suddenly wanishes.
[09:38] <donovan> is it a bad thing, if i'll leave some dependencies unresolved?  (ibnotify1 recommends notification-daemon ... score is -1545)
[09:39] <xBill> i would leave it unresolved first and then try to resolve it later.
[09:39] <xBill> has already worked twice this way
[09:40] <guiden> Why isn't there a direct connect program?
[09:40] <guiden> dc
[09:40] <hatta> because no one has written one?
[09:40] <jhutchins> guiden: for what?
[09:40] <guiden> file sharing
[09:40] <guiden> hubs
[09:40] <jhutchins> guiden: There are all kinds.
[09:40] <Mena> Why doesnt kubuntu work on another pc except mine the one i installed kubuntu with
[09:40] <the_hammer> hi all network issues here..anyone able to help me out with wireless issues and web key set up and all that jazz?
[09:41] <jhutchins> !wireless | the_hammer
[09:41] <ubotu> the_hammer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <jhutchins> the_hammer: They have some good howtos there, cover a lot of different cards.
[09:41] <guiden> jhutchins, can you give an example?
[09:41] <the_hammer> ya i did all that
[09:42] <jhutchins> guiden:  you're talking about bittorrent, ktoreent, edonkey, right?
[09:42] <julle_> Can anyone give me a tip on a good dvd backup program for kubuntu?
[09:42] <jhutchins> !backup | julle_
[09:42] <ubotu> julle_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:42] <the_hammer> i put the wep key in and applied 1st time i got a crash error so reinstalled and dont got the error no more but still unable to connect or anything
[09:43] <hellcattrav> hey how do i get skype?
[09:43] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: www.skype.com
[09:43] <nixternal> hellcattrav: Skype used to have Ubuntu packages prebuilt, but their tarballs I think are as easy as extracting and running
[09:43] <killermach> I have the Ubuntu 6.10 DVD from a linux format magazine. I put this in a machine, and create an ISO with K3B, then I md5sum the ISO, then I burn the ISO to dvd, I take that DVD and create an ISO and md5sum and it does not match the original..altho the DVD seems to work fine so far..
[09:43] <hellcattrav> i just downloaded the skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb  but i don't know what to do from there
[09:43] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Can you see your AP when you do iwlist -scan?
[09:44] <nixternal> hellcattrav: at the command line type -->   sudo dpkg -i skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[09:44] <hellcattrav> nixternal: thanks
[09:44] <nixternal> hellcattrav: KMenu -> System -> Konsole    or    Alt+Space  and then type konsold and press enter
[09:44] <hellcattrav> nixternal: i know how to get a konsole up..I'm moving up in the world!
[09:45] <guiden> jhutchins, no I'm talking about like an irc type of file sharing. You join a server/room and you have your sharefolder and everyone else too, then you can look in their share, or search and download, you can download from several people at the same time
[09:45] <the_hammer> i had the wireless net working before and then when i decided to do security set up kubuntu doesnt seem to like the security set ups
[09:45] <nixternal> hehe hellcattrav, just in case :)
[09:45] <killermach> if I take copy of the DVD that I burned and put in another ubuntu machine, and try to make an ISO with K3B, I get an error "K3b does not support copying multisession DVDs, and the last dvd copy was done with writing mode DAO.. what am I missing?
[09:46] <jhutchins> guiden: Well, there is irc.  If there's a specific network you're thinking of, you can look for software that supports that network.
[09:46] <hellcattrav> nixternal: when i type it in, is it  like this  -iskype_debian-1.3.53-1_i386  litterly like that? but prefaced with sudo?
[09:46] <guiden> its this
[09:46] <guiden> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Connect_(file_sharing)
[09:46] <julle_> jhutchins: thanks
[09:46] <nixternal> dpkg -i filenmae.deb
[09:46] <guiden> this is the biggest and ultimate filesharing medium
[09:46] <hellcattrav> ok
[09:46] <hellcattrav> thanks
[09:47] <killermach> ... and I can put the DAO DVD copy back into the machine that created it and K3b gives no error about multisession and will create an ISO.. there must be some setting I'm missing somewhere, anyone ever have that error?
[09:47] <guiden> never mind, I found klients
[09:47] <guiden> clients for dc
[09:48] <jhutchins> guiden: Yeah, the page you sent me lists ten Linux clients.
[09:48] <jhutchins> dc++ being open source you could always compile it if it's not already packaged.
[09:48] <guiden> but I can't find them on kubuntu
[09:49] <BluesKaj> killermach, don't use the multiseession , just save the burn and repeat
[09:49] <jhutchins> !packages | guiden
[09:49] <ubotu> guiden: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:49] <hellcattrav> it didn't owrk
[09:49] <Nuked> I have a question... this is a long shot, but well worth the effort if it works
[09:50] <Nuked> I have a logitech webcam
[09:50] <hellcattrav> gave me some sort of conflicting action -s  and -i
[09:50] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: "It didn't work" has an infinite number of explanations.  If you tell us what actually happened we're more likely to have an idea.
[09:50] <hellcattrav> ok ill paste bin
[09:50] <hellcattrav> tmoney@tmoney-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg -iskype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[09:50] <hellcattrav> Password:
[09:50] <hellcattrav> dpkg: conflicting actions -s (--status) and -i (--install)
[09:51] <Nuked> and I have built the kernel module for it from source
[09:51] <the_hammer> i dont get it
[09:51] <jhutchins> !pastebin | hellcattrav
[09:51] <ubotu> hellcattrav: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <fiyawerx> hey guys, question.. whats a good way to actually control your desktop remotely, as opposed to a virtual desktop?
[09:51] <Nuked> now I used make install... I believe that the module was included into the kernel
[09:51] <Nuked> but I am not sure
[09:51] <the_hammer> why wont kubuntu let me use my wireless with security?
[09:51] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: Do you suppose there should be a space between the -i and the package name?
[09:52] <jhutchins> the_hammer: It will.
[09:52] <hellcattrav> idk?
[09:52] <the_hammer> when i look in term says nickname is prism i
[09:52] <hellcattrav>  would that be it
[09:52] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: Think like a computer.  You passed it the whole package name as a switch.
[09:52] <hellcattrav> so add a space?
[09:52] <jhutchins> Yessir.
[09:53] <hellcattrav> i don't know what a switch is
[09:53] <hellcattrav> thank you
[09:53] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: -i, meaning install.
[09:53] <the_hammer> where do u edit the channels and all that jazz?
[09:53] <jhutchins> hellcattrav:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[09:54] <guiden> should I enable every repository on my list?
[09:54] <hellcattrav> ah
[09:54] <jhutchins> hellcattrav: That's not the greatest command line guide, just the one I know the url for.
[09:54] <the_hammer> mabe it aint detecting channels or w/e
[09:54] <Nuked> can anyone help me with this kernel module issue
[09:54] <Nuked> ?
[09:54] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Did you read teh wireless howto?
[09:54] <the_hammer> those were useless i looked
[09:54] <jhutchins> the_hammer: 'cause I'm pretty sure I remember that it says.
[09:55] <the_hammer> im not having a driver issue
[09:56] <the_hammer> heres the steps i done
[09:56] <Nuked> damn... my issue has no solution?
[09:57] <the_hammer> i open kmenu and went to system and settings and network i click on admin mode and then configure the wireless
[09:57] <jhutchins> the_hammer: You READ the WiFiHowto, the WiFiTroubleshooting howto, AND the Wireless Troubleshooting Guide?
[09:57] <cpk1> Nuked: modprobe nameofmodule
[09:57] <the_hammer> added my wep key applied and all that and nothing
[09:57] <jhutchins> Nuked: How would we know the solution if we don't know the problem?
[09:58] <cpk1> jhutchins: read about 10 minutes back =P
[09:58] <the_hammer> from what i see in the read me files is ndiswrappers wich i dont need so thats useless to me
[09:58] <Nuked> cpk1, jhutchins I did modprobe and I still cannot access the webcam
[09:59] <cpk1> Nuked: what did it say when you used modprobe?
[09:59] <Nuked> nothing
[09:59] <the_hammer> as i said before the security change all was fine and then i decided to add security now its f*cked
[09:59] <Nuked> no output at all cpk1
[09:59] <Nuked> so I assumed it worked
[09:59] <cpk1> Nuked: whats the name of the module?
[09:59] <Nuked> its uvcvideo.ko
[09:59] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Perhaps you are using an ascii key where hexidecimal is expected.
[09:59] <jhutchins> Nuked: lsmod | grep uvcv should show it.
[10:00] <the_hammer> hexidecimal is not selected on router tho
[10:00] <the_hammer> but for the heck of it ill try that
[10:00] <Nuked> jhutchins, uvcvideo               44420  0
[10:00] <jhutchins> the_hammer: I'm pretty certain you haven't bothered to read the various guides that are on the wireless page, which pretty much cover most aspects of WiFi besides ndiswrappers.
[10:01] <jhutchins> Nuked: Ok, the module's loaded.
[10:01] <jhutchins> Nuked: usb cam?
[10:01] <Nuked> yes
[10:01] <jhutchins> lsusb should now show the correct information for the camera.
[10:01] <the_hammer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager <--this is where i am
[10:01] <Nuked> according to all accounts jhutchins it is supposed to work
[10:02] <Nuked> jhutchins, Bus 005 Device 007: ID 046d:08cc Logitech, Inc.
[10:02] <jhutchins> Nuked: I would guess that the next step is to get some sort of client that can display the video, and set it up to access the camera.
[10:02] <cpk1> Nuked: it isnt working?
[10:02] <Nuked> cpk I tried using gqcam to access the camera
[10:02] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Check out the troubleshooting guides.
[10:02] <Nuked> and I get no video
[10:02] <Nuked> I dont exactly know what program to use to access the video
[10:03] <cpk1> hrmm and you are positive gqcam works?
[10:03] <cpk1> also did you do depmod -a before inserting the module?
[10:03] <jhutchins> the_hammer: The problem is that there are so many different cards and so many different setups that you'll do better searching for your particular combo in those docs than hitting someone here with the same setup.
[10:03] <Nuked> its one of the recommended programs to access the cam
[10:03] <Nuked> cpk it did depmod -ae
[10:03] <Nuked> on its own when I executed make install
[10:04] <epimeth> !beryl
[10:04] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <jhutchins> Nuked: Ok, now you have the module installed, now you need to at least re-launch gqcam, and possibly configure it.
[10:04] <Nuked> jhutchins, I truthfully wouldnt even know where to begin
[10:04] <cpk1> Nuked: did you check /var/log/messages for any errors after inserting the module?
[10:05] <jhutchins> Fire it up, look for "settings" or "preferences" in the menus.
[10:05] <craftycorner> hving prob w my email, cant' access my addy book
[10:06] <Nuked> cpk1 no errors that I can see there
[10:06] <Nuked> (used cat ...)
[10:07] <cpk1> I'm going with jhutchins that maybe you just need to configure your app
[10:08] <Nuked> cpk If I do dmesg | grep video
[10:08] <Nuked> cpk1, I get something to this effect uvcvideo: Failed to query (130) UVC control 1 (unit 0) : -32 (exp. 26).
[10:08] <Nuked> but it states that my camera was found
[10:09] <Nuked> and that it was registered
[10:09] <craftycorner> file:///home/craftycorner/My art 2006-11-01/temp storage/photos
[10:10] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what email client?
[10:10] <the_hammer> sometimes wep keys are a problem
[10:10] <the_hammer> according to this 1 forum
[10:11] <the_hammer> so just use a standard pw
[10:11] <craftycorner> kontact
[10:11] <the_hammer> but i dont see how in kubntu
[10:11] <cpk1> I really dont know much about webcams, it appears that the module loaded just fine.
[10:11] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: if you restart kontact, do they show up
[10:12] <craftycorner> no, i rebooted the computer.
[10:12] <cpk1> also if you do get it to work remember to add the module name (without the .ko) to /etc/modules if you want it to load at boot
[10:12] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what have you changed since they stopped working
[10:12] <craftycorner> and they did'tn show up
[10:12] <craftycorner> nuthin'
[10:12] <Nuked> cpk1 thanks
[10:12] <the_hammer> kubuntu only has options for a wep key and not a WPA Shared  Key
[10:12] <the_hammer> :(
[10:12] <bonbonthejon> !wpa
[10:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: open system settings
[10:15] <craftycorner> The resource '/home/craftycorner/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf' is locked by application ''.
[10:15] <craftycorner> is what it says when i try to add a addy
[10:15] <craftycorner> so what's goingon
[10:15] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what do you have open
[10:16] <the_hammer> boy oh boy thats silly
[10:16] <craftycorner> kontact, kopete,
[10:16] <the_hammer> Download
[10:16] <the_hammer> wpa_supplicant
[10:16] <the_hammer> what good is that if ya cant connect
[10:16] <sb9> how do i leave a chroot environment ?
[10:17] <craftycorner> how open system settings
[10:17] <the_hammer> hell with it ill install another os
[10:17] <the_hammer> thanks
[10:17] <Cugel> Okay...
[10:17] <Cugel> That shows perseverance.
[10:17] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: close kopete, then close kontact, then open kontact again
[10:17] <bonbonthejon> Cugel: :)
[10:18] <craftycorner> nuthing
[10:18] <julle> Where do i find the trashbin in kubuntu via terminal?
[10:18] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: still no addresses?
[10:18] <craftycorner> no
[10:19] <jhutchins> I think "the_hammer" will be happier going back to windows.
[10:19] <bonbonthejon> julle: I think ~/.Trash
[10:19] <julle> bonbonthejon: just tried that its not right
[10:19] <jhutchins> !trash
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <killermach> BluesKaj: I never use and don't want multisession. how do I make sure k3b never does multisession. I've been using k3b for years and kubuntu for months and have made many copies on my own machines, I have never run into this issue
[10:19] <jhutchins> I thought I'd seen that somewhere.
[10:19] <bonbonthejon> julle: do "ls -a" and see if its listed there
[10:19] <julle> its not listed
[10:19] <jhutchins> There's a doc on it somewhere...
[10:20] <jhutchins> julle: Probably under .kde somewhere.
[10:20] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: open kmenu and select System Settings
[10:20] <Cugel> julie /home/yourname/.local/share/Trash
[10:20] <Cugel> (do locate trash  to find that)
[10:21] <craftycorner> ok
[10:21] <julle> Cugel: thank you very much!
[10:21] <craftycorner> system settings open
[10:21] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: nevermind, I can't think of what would be the problem, try asking in #kde or #kontact, unless someone else has any idea
[10:21] <rahmetli> i have created a new menu entry in kmenu,it is command that should run in konsole,but when i click it vanishes,any idea?
[10:23] <bonbonthejon> anyone running Feisty?
[10:25] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: #ubuntu+1
[10:26] <Cugel> When will Firefox 2.0.0.2 hit the repositories?
[10:26] <jack__> hi would i edit my sources.list to get always the latest kde? like 3.5.6 now?
[10:26] <Cugel> jack: well, yeah, you should add a line.
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: soon
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: sometime today
[10:27] <Cugel> Admiral: okay, thanks.
[10:27] <bonbonthejon> jack__: go to kubuntu.org and there is a story about it
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: we are packaging now as we speak
[10:27] <Cugel> I'm pretty sure it's in high demand -- it did surprise me the first time I saw 'check for updates' grayed out.
[10:28] <jack__> thanks bonbonthejon
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> well it wasn't in the FTP until today afaik
[10:28] <jack__> and does anyone know how to use the tools->minitools in konqueror for delicious?
[10:28] <Cugel> Ah, yes usually the blogosphere picks up these updates before they're official.
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> yup, i did that with Fx 1.5, people check the FTP page and once its available on there make it blow up
[10:30] <Cugel> One more question: any chance OpenOffice 2.1 will be added as a package? I've read the how-to's on how to install it but I don't really want to uninstall my current OO first (and then discover things don't work as planned and lose my config).
[10:30] <bipolar> is there a way to stop kmail from starting whenever I start kopete or konversation?
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: hold on a second.
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: its in Feisty
[10:32] <Cugel> Okay -- then I'll upgrade to Feisty when it's there.
[10:32] <Cugel> I don't have Windows anymore, so I need to be careful ;-)
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Cugel: check back in April :)
[10:33] <Cugel> Admiral: sure, I know.
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm installing OO.o 2.1 now, its taking its time...and my network hates me
[10:35] <Soul^Shadow> Need help installing sunjava on kubuntu edgy 6.10, I did what it says doesnt work
[10:36] <Cugel> soul: tell us the error messages.
[10:36] <haypo> hi! is it possible to create preview of videos in Konqueror?
[10:37] <Soul^Shadow> limewire says its not installed
[10:37] <haypo> like Konqueror does with pictures
[10:37] <jack__> bonbonthejon do i just need to select the mirror, addit to the sources.list and do update & upgrade?
[10:37] <sephy> hello
[10:37] <Cugel> haypo: I was wondering about that too.
[10:37] <Soul^Shadow> says the java exec not in /bon/ & otehr error exec not in /opt/
[10:37] <sephy> is there anywhere I can get wine for PPC ubuntu
[10:37] <Soul^Shadow> I did exactly what the readme says doesnt work
[10:38] <Cugel> soul: follow instructions on ubuntuguide.org (I don't know if you did)
[10:38] <haypo> Cugel: it should be possible but i don't know how :)
[10:38] <Soul^Shadow> even put the so's in the bin as it says
[10:38] <sephy__> hello??
[10:38] <Soul^Shadow> high
[10:38] <awen_> does anyone know how to use the boot options found when pressing F1 on the live cd? don't know how to get the boot prompt
[10:38] <sephy__> I a looking for wine for the PPC architecture or Ubuntu
[10:38] <mike> How do I increase screen resolution in kubuntu?
[10:38] <sephy__> of*
[10:39] <posingaspopular> mike: X
[10:39] <posingaspopular> !x
[10:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:39] <bipolar> sephy__: wine only works on X86
[10:39] <sephy__> or can I get a windows emulator for the PPC version of Ubuntu???
[10:39] <bonbonthejon> haypo: if you have metabr, you can view prwviews for videos
[10:40] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone know what would cause fonts to display really weird when using any kind of tunneling?
[10:40] <bipolar> sephy__: no. nothing usable
[10:40] <fiyawerx> like i can't see my i's and l's when say i open firefox
[10:40] <sephy__> damn it
[10:40] <fiyawerx> cus they get really faded
[10:40] <sephy__> has everyone stopped supporting PPC or something?
[10:40] <bonbonthejon> jack__: yyes, add the mirror to sources.list and update, upgrade
[10:40] <haypo> bonbonthejon: "metabr"? is it a program? a library?
[10:40] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a way to have free formats preview iirc
[10:41] <Soul^Shadow> Need to install java on kubuntu can ne1 help me?
[10:41] <Admiral_Chicago> sephy__: vmware might work
[10:41] <ScarFreewill> can you log into mysql db via console?
[10:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !java | Soul^Shadow
[10:41] <ScarFreewill> non local one
[10:41] <ubotu> Soul^Shadow: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:41] <fiyawerx> !nx
[10:41] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:41] <bipolar> Admiral_Chicago: you missed the part where he was running on PPC
[10:41] <guiden> if I remove a program from adept, will the other files that only depends on that program also be removed. I mean, I don't get any files that are for no good?
[10:42] <Cugel> guiden: don't worry.
[10:42] <bonbonthejon> sephy__: they are discontinuing ubuntu for ppc
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> there should be a link there to how to do it on PPY
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> PPC*
[10:42] <Soul^Shadow> I enabled the universe & all otehr repositories but java is not there well not sunjava onl javacommon
[10:42] <guiden> ok
[10:42] <bonbonthejon> haypo: I have terrible lag, it is metabar
[10:42] <bonbonthejon> ScarFreewill: I image you could
[10:43] <Cugel> soul: sudo apt-get sun-java5-bin   -- try that?
[10:43] <bipolar> Admiral_Chicago: vmware and wine only translate, they don't emulate. Windows, and windows apps are written for X86 procs, it won't work on ppc
[10:43] <Cugel> You know, apt-cache search is really useful.
[10:43] <Soul^Shadow> I need to know where to put the .so files..
[10:43] <Soul^Shadow> & how do I post these files in the protected dir's...
[10:44] <bipolar> and now sephy__ has left thinking it's the developers fault. :\
[10:44] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: if you know where to put them, then do "sudo mv file /some/location"
[10:44] <Soul^Shadow> says in bin & opt
[10:44] <Soul^Shadow> I dont even have a /opt folder
[10:45] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I bet you do, are you looking in konqueror?
[10:45] <guiden> is there a guide for installing packages that doesnt exist on the repositories?
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure what you are trying to do even.
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> so i'll sit out this problem Soul^Shadow. my apologies
[10:45] <bonbonthejon> guiden: if there is a .deb package its easy, otherwise you need to compile it
[10:45] <haypo> bonbonthejon: i already have it, but i don't have previews
[10:45] <Soul^Shadow> no firefox
[10:46] <haypo> should i enable an option in Konqueror?
[10:46] <Soul^Shadow> I wanna run limewire
[10:46] <guiden> if it's a deb package?
[10:46] <Cugel> soul: Have you tried following the guides I posted a link to?
[10:46] <thomax_|away> Soul^Shadow: download frostwire
[10:46] <Cugel> You could always try and install Java through Automatix2 (well I did, sue me)
[10:46] <bonbonthejon> guiden: do "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[10:46] <Soul^Shadow> why? hat a p2p liek limewire?/ limewire got alot of resources
[10:47] <Soul^Shadow> I cant find automatix
[10:47] <Soul^Shadow> the sites both down
[10:47] <Cugel> whoops, you're right there.
[10:48] <guiden> how do I unstinall it later?
[10:48] <kamui> anyone have an suggestions for a software package that would let me "stream" my webcam via a www server?
[10:48] <bonbonthejon> guiden: it should show up in adept, so you could remove it from there
[10:48] <Soul^Shadow> I followed the sunjava installer guide
[10:48] <kamui> essentially I'd like to be able to go to my "website" and view my cameras
[10:48] <guiden> ok cool
[10:48] <Soul^Shadow> I put every hore file where it asked
[10:48] <bonbonthejon> haypo: it should work, i dont remember what else I did to make it happen
[10:49] <Soul^Shadow> thomax_|away:  is frostwire resource packed like limewire?
[10:49] <bonbonthejon> haypo: in Konqueror's settings, under previews make sure theat you enable file:/
[10:49] <Soul^Shadow> but where can I get automatix2 does ne1 have the installer package & can you send it to me?
[10:50] <aztun> anyone installed xfce4 on kubuntu?? I select it on kdm and doesnt boot, event doesnt boot usign startxfce4 on console or startxfce4 -- :1
[10:50] <Soul^Shadow> the main site & even the ubuntu site forum link dont work :(
[10:50] <haypo> bonbonthejon: yes it's on
[10:51] <haypo> but file limit is 100 MB
[10:51] <haypo> whereas my videos are bigger than 100 MB
[10:51] <aztun> cant find any solution on the forums in order to boot xfce
[10:51] <bonbonthejon> haypo: I dont know, try raising the limit, see if it helps
[10:51] <aztun> it doesnt work on my laptop
[10:52] <Soul^Shadow> does anyone have a working link to automatix2 or ahve the package?
[10:52] <haypo> bonbonthejon: there is an hard limit to 100 MB :-/
[10:52] <bonbonthejon> haypo: sorry, dont know what else to say
[10:53] <haypo> bonbonthejon: no problem. thanks.
[10:53] <Soul^Shadow> ya tell me to get automatix2 damn u where can I get it decides teh main site or ubuntu forums?
[10:54] <Cugel> soul: at the moment the site's down. Give it a day. Check ubuntuforums.org for more info.
[10:54] <aztun> nobody uses xfce?
[10:55] <aztun> I need it in order to use eclipse
[10:55] <Mena> Si therea trick to enable kubuntu work on amny pcs
[10:55] <Mena> Is*
[10:55] <yaccin> eclipse works with kde o.O
[10:55] <Soul^Shadow> really??
[10:55] <aztun> I know yaccin
[10:55] <Soul^Shadow> I was once makin a game with eclipse
[10:55] <aztun> but kde+eclipse fulls my ram
[10:56] <Soul^Shadow> you runnin it on wine??
[10:56] <Cugel> mena: eh?
[10:56] <aztun> have no enoght ram
[10:56] <Soul^Shadow> get more ram :P
[10:56] <Mena> many*
[10:56] <yaccin> aztun: you need more ram :P
[10:56] <bonbonthejon> aztun: check with #xubuntu, they would use xfcce
[10:56] <yaccin> XD
[10:56] <aztun> eclipse is gtk
[10:56] <yaccin> aztun: how did you install it?
[10:56] <Mena> i mean if install kubuntu on my pc on my hard
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> GTK apps work with Kubuntu
[10:56] <aztun> yaccin: apt-get install xfce4
[10:56] <Mena> and i dicied to conect my hard to aother pc
[10:56] <Mena> another*
[10:56] <aztun> also installed some plugins
[10:56] <Mena> and be master
[10:56] <yaccin> aztun: tried apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[10:56] <yaccin> ^^
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> no, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> that's how to install XFCE
[10:57] <Mena> i try befor didnt work
[10:57] <aztun> yaccin: I dont wanna change my boot screem or kdm
[10:57] <Soul^Shadow> there an easyer way to get java installed?/ or least get automatix2?
[10:57] <Mena> Cugel, did you get me
[10:57] <yaccin> aztun: i think you dont have... it asks you in konsole
[10:57] <bipolar> ubuntu needs a DVD install that has kubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu install options.
[10:57] <aztun> yes??
[10:57] <aztun> yaccin: u tried it?
[10:58] <aztun> I dont wanna switch to xubuntu
[10:58] <yaccin> azcurrently downloading ^^
[10:58] <aztun> I like kubuntu boot screen and kdm
[10:58] <yaccin> oh you keep all your kde/kubuntu stuff :)
[10:58] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I thought there was a package that would download and install it for you
[10:58] <Cugel> mena: yes, but I don't know the answer :-)
[10:58] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: lhold on, let me see if I can find it
[10:59] <Soul^Shadow> nope only a bin file
[10:59] <aztun> mmm
[10:59] <Mena> Cugel, okay no prob
[10:59] <Soul^Shadow> the bin extracts the stuff but no installer
[10:59] <aztun> I think I will try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <leiar>  I really want openoffice to be in my native language. My OS is kubuntu dapper with my language as default
[10:59] <bonbonthejon> haypo: do you have single click disabled?
[11:00] <Soul^Shadow> no :P
[11:00] <Soul^Shadow> I can right click or launch in terminal :)
[11:00] <aztun> yaccin: when I try "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[11:00] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: are you talking to me?
[11:01] <Soul^Shadow> yes
[11:01] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I didnt ask you about the single click :)
[11:01] <Soul^Shadow> the file a bin no installer :(
[11:01] <aztun> it wants to install xubuntu-artwork-usplash gdm abiword and many other programs that I dont want
[11:01] <aztun> :(
[11:01] <Soul^Shadow> oh lol
[11:02] <haypo> bonbonthejon: i installed  kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdemultimedia and it works now
[11:02] <yaccin> aztun: yeah :/ figured that
[11:02] <yaccin> !xfce
[11:02] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:02] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: my computer is going slow
[11:02] <bonbonthejon> haypo: good
[11:02] <yaccin> hmm
[11:02] <Mena> i give my voce for kubuntu :)
[11:03] <Mena> voice*
[11:03] <Soul^Shadow> now send me 1 million dollars :P
[11:03] <leiar> How do I change language a programme, like OpenOffice?
[11:03] <mefisto__> I'm trying to solve my menu crashing problem. I've found one program (kdict) that crashes the panel, etc when it's installed. but it used to appear in the menu and worked fine. Any reason why this would be happening?
[11:03] <spitwise> :s/dapper/edgy will upgrade me to edgy?
[11:03] <Soul^Shadow> install the office in another language in apt or synaptic
[11:04] <Soul^Shadow> should be a xffcelangname in the list
[11:04] <Soul^Shadow> langname = your language
[11:05] <bonbonthejon> mefisto__: still having problems?
[11:06] <Soul^Shadow> bonbonthejon: any luck??
[11:06] <mefisto__> bonbonthejon: yes.
[11:06] <aztun> what a shit
[11:06] <aztun> I will have to install gmd
[11:06] <aztun> gdm
[11:06] <aztun> :/
[11:07] <mefisto__> bonbonthejon: I think the problem is related to icons in the menu not rendering
[11:07] <jhutchins> aztun: Lessee, foul language, whining, emoticon.  Did I miss something?
[11:07] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: I thought there was a java unfree package that downloaded, installed, etc., but in feisty its not there any more
[11:07] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: there are other packages available, though
[11:07] <bonbonthejon> mefisto__: if you change icon themes, does it go away
[11:08] <jhutchins> aztun: You could just manually install xfce.
[11:08] <Soul^Shadow> limewire needs sunjava
[11:08] <jhutchins> aztun:  xubuntu-desktop is the whole bundle you'd get with xubuntu.
[11:08] <yaccin> aztun: maybe a dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?
[11:08] <mefisto__> bonbonthejon: I don't think it would. I mean the application icons in the menu
[11:08] <aztun> yaccin: gonna try that
[11:09] <yaccin> or shutdown xserver and then start xfce from terminal
[11:09] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: have you tried frostwire yet, I've never tried it, but its a free version of limewire, and it should be in the repos
[11:09] <jhutchins> aztun: Sorry, not far enough back in the scrollbuffer.  Let us know if that does it!
[11:09] <aztun> I already tried that yaccin
[11:09] <jhutchins> aztun: Did it start?
[11:09] <yaccin> hmm what happened?
[11:09] <aztun> gonna try
[11:09] <aztun> see u in one minut
[11:09] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: and there are lots of sun-java in the repos, it looks like
[11:09] <Mena> sudo apt-get install sun-java(VERSION)-bin
[11:10] <Cugel> mena: I already told him that.
[11:10] <Mena> Cugel, ok
[11:10] <Soul^Shadow> no u dint
[11:10] <Soul^Shadow> utold me goto some damn manual
[11:11] <Cugel> Well, I told you that, too.
[11:11] <Cugel> Still, try it.
[11:11] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: Careful there, you might learn something.
[11:11] <Mena> friends no prob i am sorry
[11:11] <Cugel> jhutchins: yes, I'll get a new beer instead of getting annoyed.
[11:11] <BrettV> i am attempting to install MEPIS on my computer. When I boot to CD i get a command prompt and startx will not load... what do i need to do to install this distro
[11:11] <Soul^Shadow> jhutchins: if I wanted any lip rom u I take it from ur daddys zipper shuddup
[11:11] <Mena> i realy was confused a bout sending it bit i send it without mention any one
[11:11] <testinh> any reason why NetBeans isn't in the repositories yet?
[11:11] <testinh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127149
[11:12] <Mena> Sorry Cugel
[11:12] <Cugel> I have a question myself: when I change desktop (so, to desktop 2 for example) I want my taskbar/kicker only to show the programs running on that desktop. Is there a way  to accomplish this?
[11:13] <Cugel> mena: it's not you. And besides, I'm getting beer anyway ;-)
[11:13] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: So let's see, you've got a bad attitude, you're using foul language, and you're trying to get help pirating stuff.  We should help you why?
[11:13] <aztun> :(
[11:13] <BrettV> anyone familiar with installing from the command prompt?
[11:13] <aztun> if I select xfce on kde I get a blue screen
[11:13] <jhutchins> BrettV: Sure, what'cha need?
[11:13] <Mena> Cugel , configure Desktop
[11:13] <Soul^Shadow> jhut u gettin  smartallek with me when  Inot even talkin to you
[11:14] <Mena> Cugel , Behavior
[11:14] <Soul^Shadow> you should be muted why!
[11:14] <aztun> If I try startxfce4 just can move the mouse with blank screen
[11:14] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: It's a public echo, you're talking to everybody.
[11:14] <Mena> Cugel , not this sorry
[11:14] <BrettV> jhutchins: i am attempting to install mepis but when i boot to the cd all i get is the command line
[11:14] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: Including the guys from the RIAA who lurk here to look for guys like you.
[11:14] <BrettV> jhutchins: what is the command to install the os
[11:14] <Soul^Shadow> public echo.  [Ignore]  Added jhutchins!* to your ignore list
[11:15] <Soul^Shadow> :P
[11:15] <aztun> BrettV: press f2 or f3 for help
[11:15] <jhutchins> Soul^Shadow: We can all do that.
[11:15] <Mena> Cugel , Configure panel >>>>Taskbar
[11:15] <BrettV> aztun: from the command prompt?
[11:15] <jhutchins> BrettV: Usually some variant of apt-get install... but the whole OS?
[11:15] <aztun> when cd boots
[11:15] <Cugel> mena: let's see -- I failed to find that particular option last time.
[11:15] <Soul^Shadow> WTF u babblin about Jhut didnt use foul language I aint pirating nothing & WTF u smokin, Get off the pipe crackhead :P
[11:15] <Soul^Shadow> oops jhutchins*
[11:15] <Mena> Cugel , no the first option remove the mark
[11:16] <Mena> Cugel , and see
[11:16] <BrettV> jhutchins: yeah i want to format and install
[11:16] <Cugel> mena: dude, indeed! thanks.
[11:16] <Soul^Shadow> BrettV ya might wanna ask someone who not on crack :P
[11:16] <jhutchins> BrettV: You'd probably have to use the mepis installer for that, #mepis would be more help.
[11:16] <Mena> i was confused befor
[11:16] <Mena> no prob
[11:16] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: keep it clean or someone will need to ban you
[11:16] <Cugel> For some reason I missed that option before.
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> I did keep it clean
[11:17] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: did you get java installed yet?
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> he sayin im pirating he on crack
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> no I was interrupted by a reatrd
[11:17] <BrettV> jhutchins: thanks
[11:17] <BrettV> Soul^Shadow: who are you suggesting is on crack :-)
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> hold on I trying to get version of hava
[11:17] <Soul^Shadow> I cant find the java when I do a apt-cache search for it either
[11:18] <Cugel> jhutchins: I agree with soulshadow to the degree that installing Limewire doesn't imply piracy. I would use it to get 'illegal' stuff, but still.
[11:18] <Mena> the last one is 6 an i guess , right?
[11:18] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: open adept, its easier to find stuff
[11:18] <Mena> as*
[11:19] <Soul^Shadow> I dont share only d/l music once in a while
[11:19] <bonbonthejon> jhutchins: probably pretty low
[11:19] <Cugel> Indeed, I use bittorrent myself but still.
[11:19] <bonbonthejon> jhutchins: unless you already own something, then it would be higher
[11:19] <manu_> http://www.3delight.com/en/uploads/images/skins/gallery/dog.jpg <-- a manipulated photo or a very realistic rendering?
[11:19] <bonbonthejon> Cugel: bittorent is very nice
[11:19] <jhutchins> bonbonthejon: Depending on who you ask.
[11:19] <Mena> Azureuz is the best for downloading :)
[11:20] <Cugel> Yep, using Azureus -- because I didn't like Ktorrent at all.
[11:20] <Cugel> I'd say mutorrent is the best, though.
[11:20] <yaccin> manu_: rendering
[11:20] <jhutchins> I just use straight bittorrent gui.
[11:21] <hatta> I like rtorrent a lot
[11:21] <jhutchins> Most torrents are so pitifully slow anyway, it hardly seems to matter.
[11:21] <hatta> fix it up with screen and a watch directory
[11:21] <Soul^Shadow> torrents slow unreliable
[11:21] <hatta> most public torrents you mean
[11:21] <Mena> azureuz is more speedy bec its use Java
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> that's just not true at all
[11:21] <hatta> private torrents are fast as hell
[11:21] <Cugel> jhutchins: depends on the site -- some private sites are _very_ fast and good. But you need an invitation.
[11:21] <yaccin> java != speedy
[11:21] <yaccin> java = slooooow
[11:21] <yaccin> ^^
[11:21] <Mena> of course the speed depends on seeds and peers
[11:21] <Soul^Shadow> got it noww, didnt show java from  sun before
[11:21] <bonbonthejon> Mena: java is slow
[11:22] <Mena> java slowdown the system but download is fast as i guess
[11:22] <Cugel> Java is slow but it's necessary for many apps.
[11:22] <yaccin> Cugel: yeah :(
[11:22] <Mena> yes like opera
[11:22] <Soul^Shadow> opera nice, firefox is an opera mod ya know
[11:23] <Cugel> firefox an opera mod ... now you're not correct.
[11:23] <Soul^Shadow> lots same features just more added diffret design
[11:23] <Mena> Opera is more advance that firefox and preety
[11:23] <Cugel> firefox did copy many of opera's (good) features, that's for sure.
[11:23] <Mena> pretty*
[11:23] <Mena> than*
[11:23] <Soul^Shadow> what ver opera??
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[11:23] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:24] <Mena> and also opera is more secure it has no holes as i guess
[11:24] <bonbonthejon> copying features is not the same as a "mod"
[11:24] <Mena> ok
[11:24] <Mena> sorry
[11:24] <Soul^Shadow> I had opera 5 or 6
[11:24] <Mena> you are right off topic
[11:24] <Soul^Shadow> well opera core java & menu's are alot like firefox 5 :P
[11:25] <Soul^Shadow> really we talking about opera for linux :P
[11:25] <sergio_> salve
[11:25] <sergio_> qualcuno  sa darmi
[11:25] <sergio_> come ridimensionare
[11:26] <sergio_> le partioni che ho sul pc
[11:26] <Mena> french
[11:26] <sergio_> ho installato su hd1 windows e sulle altre partzioni kubuntu
[11:26] <sergio_> ora
[11:26] <sergio_> vorrei installare anche mac os
[11:26] <Cugel> sergio: English please?
[11:26] <Soul^Shadow> I think u say opera more secure cus ur thinkin linux version, winblows version is insecure but all exploers of internet more secure when in linux
[11:26] <sergio_> no :|
[11:26] <Mena> !ch
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Mena> !french
[11:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:26] <Soul^Shadow> then u want !kubuntu-fr
[11:27] <Mena> as i guess
[11:27] <Cugel> menaL he was talking Spanish.
[11:27] <Cugel> Or Italian.
[11:27] <Mena> spanish hmmmm bec french also had la le
[11:28] <aztun> it worked installing xubuntu-desktop, I could keept my kubuntu usplash and kdm
[11:28] <Soul^Shadow> wuts diffrence between xubuntu & others?
[11:28] <jhutchins> mena, Cugel that was italian, !it would have worked I think.
[11:28] <spitwise> Soul^Shadow: the window manager
[11:28] <Cugel> !it
[11:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <Mena> ok
[11:29] <Cugel> Yes.
[11:29] <mefisto__> does apt have a history list?
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> what is it a standard gui with certain options others dont pervide
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> I know that :P
[11:29] <Mena> leet him/here choose
[11:29] <Mena> lett*
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> never seen xubuntu yet :p seen all others almost
[11:29] <testinh> try dream linux instead of xubuntu
[11:29] <Soul^Shadow> her
[11:29] <Cugel> Me neither -- but on my dual core machine I think I don't need XFCE.
[11:29] <Mena> heheh sorry
[11:30] <Mena> :)
[11:30] <jhutchins> A lot of people like xfce because it is so un-windows.
[11:30] <testinh> thunar isn't that great though
[11:30] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, thanks :D
[11:30] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Yes, it has a history log at least, poke around /var/log.
[11:30] <Soul^Shadow> uuumm ok my java install at 5% & holding ??
[11:31] <Soul^Shadow> np
[11:31] <Mena> show details
[11:31] <Soul^Shadow> did no options or anything
[11:31] <Mena> you using adept or terminal
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> adept
[11:32] <Mena> okay Show deatils
[11:32] <Mena> details*
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> fawk lemme paste details of your details & there lack of detail
[11:32] <Mena> or what ever*
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> I did
[11:32] <Soul^Shadow> ther enothing ther for options not waiting on othing
[11:33] <Mena> okay
[11:33] <Mena> see lue window
[11:33] <Mena> blue
[11:33] <epimeth> I think I'm having a hal problem...
[11:33] <epimeth> anybody upgraded to feisty and lost their ntfs partitions?
[11:33] <Soul^Shadow> so what the hal is your problem :P
[11:33] <Mena> i write so much :D
[11:34] <epimeth> that way nobody makes any more puns :-p
[11:34] <Mena> hheeehh ok
[11:34] <spitwise> i think xubuntu uses xfce
[11:34] <Mena> you dont loss you rntfs partition
[11:34] <Mena> ntfs
[11:34] <epimeth> I know... I just can't access them...
[11:34] <epimeth> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[11:34] <Mena> check the uuid
[11:34] <Soul^Shadow> http://pastebin.ca/373654
[11:35] <Mena> i dont have much inf
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> check that Mena
[11:35] <Mena> what
[11:35] <epimeth> how do I do it, what do I change it to?
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> note that its cut off why I left extra psace there
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> my details on java
[11:35] <Soul^Shadow> its where its stopped at
[11:35] <Mena> ok
[11:36] <Mena> blkid in terminal
[11:36] <jhutchins> epimeth: Just guessing here, but probably in fstab.
[11:36] <Mena> to see your uuid
[11:36] <Mena> then open fstab    sudo kate /etc/fstab
[11:36] <Soul^Shadow> omg now my apt wont show Cus I killed it
[11:36] <Mena> hmmm
[11:36] <Mena> okay
[11:36] <Mena> Soul^Shadow,
[11:37] <leiar> I am not able to get my own language in Kubuntu, I've installed several language packages in synaptic, but it still is English
[11:37] <jhutchins> Looks like the java installer's license agreement got another one.
[11:37] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, open terminal
[11:37] <Mena> maybe
[11:37] <epimeth> hmmm... that told me nothing
[11:37] <Soul^Shadow> I am trying that now, but I dont know name
[11:37] <Soul^Shadow> not full name
[11:38] <Mena> epimeth, what is there
[11:38] <Mena> epimeth, sorry
[11:38] <Mena> sec
[11:38] <Soul^Shadow> ah found it
[11:38] <jhutchins> epimeth: Is there a user option on the line for your ntfs partition in fstab?
[11:38] <epimeth> http://pastebin.ca/373660
[11:38] <leiar> anybody know how to change language in kubuntu? I've tried langname=
[11:38] <epimeth> my ntfs partition isn't in fstab
[11:38] <jhutchins> leiar: Change your locale
[11:39] <Mena> epimeth, SURE
[11:39] <Soul^Shadow> ooohh locked in terminal :(
[11:39] <Mena> !fixadept
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <leiar> jhutchins: haven't got my language in locale
[11:39] <Soul^Shadow> lemme try killin proccess
[11:39] <epimeth> yes!  help is on its way!!!
[11:39] <Mena> !fix-adept
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <Soul^Shadow> !kill-adept :P
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kill-adept :p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <epimeth> adept isn't fixed yet... I just checked
[11:39] <guiden> I have put a password on the hub I have, but I don't remeber it, what can I do?
[11:39] <Cugel> Think!
[11:39] <guiden> Can I reset the momory?
[11:40] <guiden> if I unplugg it?
[11:40] <epimeth> !Think
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about think - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <epimeth> :-)
[11:40] <posingaspopular> what Cugel said
[11:40] <leiar> jhutchins: I can write locale=no in konsole
[11:40] <Mena> epimeth, if you cant see your part i cant help you i dont knwo much maybe some else help you
[11:40] <Cugel> Well, unplug it and see what happens.
[11:40] <Soul^Shadow> ok no permission to kill it either :P
[11:40] <epimeth> Mena, I pastebined my fstab
[11:40] <Cugel> Use your standard passwords first?
[11:40] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, open your kdesystemguard and see
[11:40] <epimeth> you didn't see it?
[11:40] <Cugel> And use sudo.
[11:40] <jhutchins> epimeth: Sorry if you already answered this, but it doesn't look like your ntfs is in your fstab, what partition is it?
[11:40] <Soul^Shadow>  I did I cant kill em no permission :P
[11:40] <epimeth> ahh
[11:41] <epimeth> its not there
[11:41] <epimeth> but media:/ has the drives
[11:41] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, ok
[11:41] <leiar> how do I change locale?
[11:41] <jhutchins> epimeth: Ah, but they don't want to mount with you as user, they want to mount as root.
[11:41] <Soul^Shadow> ok how I sudo in gui?
[11:41] <epimeth> when I try and open them, I get hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[11:41] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[11:41] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   thsi for fixing adept
[11:41] <jhutchins> epimeth: Do you know what partitions they are?
[11:41] <epimeth> jhutch: exactly
[11:41] <Mena> but not yet
[11:42] <epimeth> jhutchins, when I mount -t manually they mount
[11:42] <epimeth> but I can't give my user permissions to read them
[11:42] <lontra> is there an image manipulation program for kde like gimp?
[11:42] <epimeth> I'd also like write access, but I understand its buggy
[11:42] <Soul^Shadow> Uuuummm I got 3 running I need to kill em no permision to do so :P
[11:42] <geiss> hi, i'd like to mount my usb device with pmount. however, on this machine there is only pmount-hal which expects a UDI as the first arg. what is a UDI and what do i have to pass there?
[11:42] <epimeth> jhutch: all of hdc and hda1/2
[11:42] <jhutchins> epimeth: Sounds like the system's doing too much of the thinking for you, protecting you from yourself.
[11:42] <Soul^Shadow> wuts name of kdesysguard?
[11:43] <jhutchins> epimeth: Just one part on hdc?
[11:43] <epimeth> open the mounted filesystem doors, hal
[11:43] <epimeth> I'm afraid I can't do that, epi
[11:43] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, Ksysguard
[11:43] <jhutchins> epimeth: You got it.
[11:43] <Soul^Shadow> oh dud I was close :P
[11:43] <epimeth> its all 7 hdc partitions
[11:43] <Soul^Shadow> duh* :P
[11:43] <jhutchins> epimeth: So what I'd do if I were you is set them up in fstab to automount.
[11:43] <epimeth> 1/2/3/5/6/7/8
[11:44] <epimeth> but why did it break when upgrading to feisty?
[11:44] <jhutchins> epimeth: Wow, that's a lot of partitions.
[11:44] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, sec plz
[11:44] <epimeth> its a 180GB hd
[11:44] <jhutchins> epimeth: Because feisty is moving more stuff to user mode, not always successfully.
[11:44] <jhutchins> epimeth: You understand that Feisty is _supposed_ to be broken, and the main reason for running it is to find bugs and report them so they can be fixed for release, right?
[11:45] <epimeth> of course
[11:45] <Soul^Shadow> DIE DIE DIE adept :P
[11:45] <jhutchins> epimeth: So you need help setting that up?
[11:45] <epimeth> this just seems like kind of a silly thing to be broken, is all
[11:45] <epimeth> jhutch, please
[11:45] <Soul^Shadow> got em dead
[11:45] <epimeth> also, do where do I nitify the feisty ppl?
[11:45] <jhutchins> Ok, using sudo mkdir, make mount points for each partition.
[11:45] <epimeth> launchpad?
[11:45] <lontra> is krita similar to gimp?
[11:45] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, sudo killall adept_manager
[11:46] <epimeth> jhutch:  waaait
[11:46] <epimeth> I want it to work from media:/ too
[11:46] <Soul^Shadow> np I did a kdesu on ksysguard :)
[11:46] <epimeth> isn't there a way to reconfigure hal?
[11:46] <jhutchins> epimeth: So rather than having them permanently automounted, you want to fix HAL?
[11:46] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, did you try
[11:47] <epimeth> exactly
[11:47] <jhutchins> epimeth: The problem I've had when I tried to work with hal is that there are too many ways to reconfigure it, and it's pretty hard to figure out which one is being used, and which part is broken.
[11:47] <epimeth> then I can automount with the gui through media:/
[11:47] <Soul^Shadow> yeah now sasy ap-get -f install to correct :P
[11:47] <Gtwy> kubuntu in vmware isnt going so well
[11:48] <jhutchins> epimeth: Only suggestion I can offer there is to file a bugreport and lurk heavily in #ubuntu+1.
[11:48] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, do it
[11:48] <Soul^Shadow> I am I am
[11:48] <epimeth> where do I file the bug report
[11:48] <leiar> seems like kuuntu hasn't found the right drivers for my video card. My highest resolution is 1074-768
[11:48] <Soul^Shadow> :p im not that fast at keyboard :P
[11:48] <jhutchins> !bugs | epimeth
[11:48] <Mena> !bug
[11:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:48] <ubotu> epimeth: please see above
[11:48] <epimeth> and I have plenty of time to sift through conf files... I just dunno where they are :-)
[11:48] <epimeth> man hal?
[11:49] <epimeth> !hal
[11:49] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[11:49] <Soul^Shadow> damn bugs everywhere
[11:49] <Soul^Shadow> :P
[11:49] <makuseru> does anyone know how to get blender 2.43
[11:49] <leiar> What do I do to install the propper driver to my videocard, and what do I write to find the name of the videocard?
[11:49] <makuseru> is it in any reops?
[11:49] <epimeth> launchpad it is
[11:49] <Cugel> leiar: time to read something about xorg.conf.
[11:49] <jhutchins> !ati | leiar
[11:49] <ubotu> leiar: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:49] <Soul^Shadow> OK, how do I click ok?? wont let me use kb or mouse :(
[11:50] <jhutchins> leiar: lspci usually gives you enough to go on.
[11:50] <Soul^Shadow> nvm
[11:50] <epimeth> so jhutch... where might I find hal's config files?
[11:50] <Soul^Shadow> geese what a pain in the arse :P
[11:50] <Mena> tab
[11:50] <Mena> prees tab
[11:50] <nagyv> Soul^Shadow: try tab and then enter
[11:50] <Soul^Shadow> nvm means nevermind :P
[11:50] <jhutchins> epimeth: There are too many for me to recall, and they vary from release to release and distro to distro.
[11:50] <coreymon77> jhutchins: do i now just install alsa?
[11:51] <epimeth> right...
[11:51] <jhutchins> epimeth: If you're serious about this, you'll need to find a wiki or something on hal and udev and read up.
[11:51] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yeah, I take it it went fine?
[11:51] <Soul^Shadow> ay now limewire BETTER install :P
[11:51] <Mena> Why kick
[11:51] <coreymon77> yup
[11:51] <jhutchins> Sorry, got my sound mutes 'cause it's picking up a radio station and sounds like the inside of a steam factory.
[11:52] <Soul^Shadow> OMG now another error, an x1 eror!
[11:52] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, id it wrok java limewire
[11:52] <Soul^Shadow> X11*
[11:52] <Mav> c' nessuno?
[11:52] <coreymon77> jhutchins: does it matter that i still have alsa related packages that were not unintsalled
[11:52] <Mena> did*
[11:53] <Soul^Shadow> got java
[11:53] <Mena> work*
[11:53] <Mena> okay good
[11:53] <Soul^Shadow> now limewire not wanting to install error in X11
[11:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: We're going to hope not.  We can always go deeper.
[11:53] <guiden> youtube google vide, flash right?
[11:53] <guiden> vedo
[11:53] <guiden> video
[11:53] <epimeth> jhutchins, will do...
[11:53] <Cugel> soul: what error.
[11:53] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so just alsa-base for now
[11:53] <Soul^Shadow> hold on I pastbin it
[11:53] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, no idea sorry
[11:53] <coreymon77> jhutchins: right?
[11:53] <jhutchins> guiden: All kinds, but yes, mostly flash 8 & 9.
[11:53] <Mena> Soul^Shadow,pastbin it maybe others would help
[11:54] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Right.
[11:54] <guiden> ok
[11:54] <coreymon77> jhutchins: okay
[11:54] <jhutchins> Mmff, 17:00, I need to finish some stuff here...
[11:55] <yaccin> !xfce
[11:55] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:55] <Soul^Shadow> pos error is: http://pastebin.ca/373676
[11:55] <coreymon77> jhutchins: its doen
[11:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: one question
[11:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: in the sound system settings page in system settings,
[11:56] <Soul^Shadow> lemme restart ........
[11:56] <Soul^Shadow> bbs
[11:57] <coreymon77> jhutchins: is it a problem that in the hardware tab, for midi device, there is nothing in the drop down list?
[12:00] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Shouldn't be, unless you're trying to do midi stuff.
[12:00] <coreymon77> and
[12:00] <coreymon77> for the things that it said i should use autoremove for
[12:00] <morvok> anyone know of an app I can use to text message people?
[12:00] <coreymon77> some of them seem important
[12:01] <Mena> ANy one know a very good apps for ediiting video files
[12:01] <coreymon77> such as system-services
[12:01] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Well, re-run apt-get autoremove, and see what it says.
[12:01] <Mena> excpet kino and cileranaa*
[12:01] <coreymon77> jhutchins: but isnt system-services and important package?
[12:01] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You're probably going to have to at least restart to get alsa reloaded, and you may need to do a dpkg reconfigure alsa (that's probably not the right syntax).
[12:01] <coreymon77> jhutchins: it seems so by the name
[12:02] <Mena> i asked befor but maybe someone know something else
[12:02] <Soul^Shadow> mena any ideres?
[12:02] <Mena> no sorry
[12:02] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yes, but some important packages are just containers, and alsa was probably contained by system-services which was contained by ubuntu-minimal.
[12:02] <Soul^Shadow> headless error
[12:02] <jhutchins> Mena: Yes!
[12:02] <Soul^Shadow> WHO chopped off its head???
[12:02] <jhutchins> Mena: I've been using avidemux2
[12:03] <Soul^Shadow> Im coming for you !!! :P
[12:03] <jhutchins> Mena: Not as fancy and polished as cinnelera, but works great.
[12:03] <Mena> jhutchins, okay i will see it thanks
[12:03] <Mena> Soul^Shadow, pastebin again and ask maybe some one would help
[12:03] <jhutchins> Mena: Are you going to be mastering DVD's?
[12:03] <Mena> jhutchins, no realy
[12:04] <Soul^Shadow> I think jhutchins chopped off its head :P
[12:04] <Soul^Shadow> http://pastebin.ca/373676
[12:04] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so
[12:04] <coreymon77> now what
[12:04] <Soul^Shadow> plz help me with that error ne1 who can
[12:04] <jhutchins> coreymon77: restart to reload alsa.
[12:04] <Mena> jhutchins, but i wont to resize some video files and with good qaulity
[12:04] <jhutchins> coreymon77: See if you can get sound.
[12:05] <jhutchins> Mena: mplayer/mencoder/ffmpeg, or avidemux.
[12:05] <Mena> jhutchins, I will try avidemux
[12:05] <jhutchins> Mena:  avidemux allowed me to do some automatic cropping, filtering, and transcoding as well as edit chunks out.
[12:05] <Mena> jhutchins, form its name its suppotortted avi files :D
[12:06] <jhutchins> Mena: Most formats.
[12:06] <Mena> jhutchins, cool
[12:06] <Mena> jhutchins, is it included in the repo
[12:07] <Mena> jhutchins, i cant find it
[12:07] <Mena> even with terminal search
[12:07] <jhutchins> Mena: Try avidemux2
[12:07] <Mena> ok
[12:08] <Mena> jhutchins, its as the one a bove
[12:08] <jhutchins> Hrmn...
[12:08] <jhutchins> It's in Mandriva, so you'd think...
[12:08] <jhutchins> Let me hop over to the other machine...
[12:08] <leiar> I've read about my videocard: Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP, and it doesn't look easy to get it working in higher resolutons than 1074*768. Any comments?
[12:08] <Mena> jhutchins, ok
[12:09] <jhutchins> !find avidemux
[12:09] <ubotu> Found: avidemux
[12:09] <jhutchins> !avidemux
[12:09] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[12:11] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nope
[12:11] <Soul^Shadow> help me pl error is : http://pastebin.ca/373676
[12:11] <Gtwy> what is the deal with the live cd? i dont remember it being so slow
[12:12] <Mena> ok i will take that
[12:12] <epimeth> Soul: run it in X, maybe?
[12:12] <jhutchins> Mena: Possibly you need to enable multiverse.
[12:12] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Gaah.
[12:12] <Mena> jhutchins, i found it
[12:12] <Mena> jhutchins, :)
[12:12] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Wow.  This is a tough one.
[12:13] <coreymon77> jhutchins: im downloading an edgy livecd
[12:13] <jhutchins> coreymon77: We KNOW plain vanilla soundblasters work in kubuntu.
[12:13] <coreymon77> well then wtf is the problem
[12:13] <yaccin> Soul^Shadow: tried starting it from k-menu / via alt+f2?
[12:13] <Soul^Shadow> nah I got it