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h4writer | kwwii, still not online?:p | 02:00 |
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h4writer | I guess not | 02:03 |
h4writer | goodbye, I'm heading for my bed. | 02:03 |
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kwwii | moin all | 10:57 |
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klepas | moin andreasn | 12:44 |
andreasn | hi klepas | 12:44 |
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lapo | hi | 03:39 |
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MacSlow | Greetings everybody! | 03:41 |
lapo | yo MacSlow | 03:41 |
lapo | any 3d accelerated news? :-) | 03:42 |
MacSlow | what (CC)-licence is the tangerine set published under... I've a hard time finding that info... | 03:42 |
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lapo | ciao andreasn | 03:42 |
andreasn_ | what's up?= | 03:43 |
MacSlow | I used the "left" arrow as a button in my talk I did at FOSDEM this weekend and now people want to see my .odp published... but for the 3rd-party artwork used I want to give proper credit | 03:43 |
MacSlow | hi lapo, andreasn! | 03:43 |
andreasn_ | MacSlow: how was fosdem? | 03:44 |
lapo | MacSlow: cc-by-sa | 03:44 |
lapo | MacSlow: like tango | 03:44 |
lapo | MacSlow: iirc the arrows are ulisse's work (derived from jimmac's?) | 03:45 |
MacSlow | andreasn_ informative, sweet, thrilling and as always exhausting | 03:45 |
lapo | MacSlow: btw you can check the metadatas in the svg | 03:45 |
MacSlow | lapo, I generated a png form the svg added a bit of text in gimp and saved it as png | 03:45 |
MacSlow | to be useable as "button" in my OO-presentation | 03:46 |
MacSlow | so I created a derivative | 03:46 |
lapo | MacSlow: yep, so it needs to be cc-by-sa as well | 03:46 |
lapo | MacSlow: I can confirm that the tangerine arrows are ulisse's work | 03:47 |
MacSlow | andreasn, I finally met Michael Meeks, Kristian Hoegsberg, pippin, Nat Friedman and Michael Daenzer in person | 03:48 |
MacSlow | andreasn and so many more... it was totally wicked! | 03:48 |
andreasn_ | those are cool dudes, I think I've met most of them in person | 03:48 |
lapo | MacSlow: c'mon amaze your friends with some new sweet stuff! :-) | 03:49 |
MacSlow | andreasn, also ran into the people behind nouveau again this year... impressive what they put out with the little information they have for nv-hardware | 03:49 |
andreasn_ | MacSlow: yeah, that looks like a amazing project, more free beer to them! | 03:50 |
MacSlow | lapo, ok... I think a README file, with proper credits, with my talk's .odp in a tarball will do? | 03:50 |
lapo | MacSlow: I don't really know I'm not a license expert at all :-/ | 03:51 |
lapo | if it would depend on me I'd release everything with x license | 03:52 |
andreasn_ | what was your talk about? | 03:52 |
MacSlow | and it looks like this year will be very demanding for me | 03:52 |
MacSlow | andreasn http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18681 | 03:53 |
Ubugtu | OpenOffice.org bug 18681 in cs "Wrong characters in imported Word document" [Defect,Resolved: later] | 03:53 |
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MacSlow | andreasn, what's ulisse's real name? | 04:08 |
lapo | MacSlow: Ulisse Perusin | 04:08 |
MacSlow | lapo, thx | 04:08 |
andreasn | lapo should know, it's his cousin | 04:08 |
MacSlow | ah ok | 04:08 |
lapo | eheh | 04:09 |
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nysosym | hi there :) | 04:12 |
kwwii | howdy nysosym, all | 04:17 |
nysosym | hi kwwii :) | 04:18 |
nysosym | how are u? | 04:18 |
nysosym | very nice wallpapers | 04:18 |
kwwii | nysosym: good, thanks :-) and you? | 04:18 |
nysosym | http://www.hamaddarwish.com/ | 04:18 |
nysosym | also good :) | 04:18 |
nysosym | what do u do kwwii? | 04:21 |
kwwii | trying to figure out why the gnome session splash has a crapy line around it | 04:21 |
kwwii | at first I thought it was a matter of using a colormapped pic | 04:21 |
kwwii | but that is not the case | 04:21 |
nysosym | as far as i know, can usplash only have a 1bit alpha channel, maybe is this the problem? | 04:22 |
lapo | yo kwwii, nice work with gdm and usplash | 04:23 |
kwwii | lapo: thanks...the gdm is still underway | 04:24 |
kwwii | and the session splash simply sucks | 04:24 |
lapo | kwwii: the session splash should die imho (it's fast enough now, it could be killed) | 04:24 |
kwwii | lapo: yeah, that exact point makes testing is hard | 04:25 |
kwwii | apparently it is a transparency issue | 04:25 |
lapo | kwwii: for gdm please consider putting the session and language buttons back under the input box as it was in...uhm 5.10 | 04:25 |
kwwii | freaky, never seen this before | 04:25 |
lapo | kwwii: can't you just kill it? | 04:26 |
nysosym | kwwii: see my post above ;) | 04:26 |
lapo | kwwii: it's a lot of work, for uhm...2 seconds? :-) | 04:26 |
kwwii | nysosym: yeah, that guy made the vista pic wallpapers | 04:26 |
kwwii | lapo: not really my decision ;-) | 04:26 |
kwwii | yet :p | 04:26 |
nysosym | kwwii: no, i mean that usplash only can have a 1bit alpha channel | 04:27 |
kwwii | nysosym: the usplash is 8 bit anyway | 04:27 |
kwwii | this thing uses 24bit pngs but can't display the transparency in them corretly | 04:27 |
lapo | kwwii: the usplash is really nice, you have a tiny bit of banding on the "ubuntu" gradient tho | 04:27 |
kwwii | yeah, it was a trade-off for more glow | 04:28 |
lapo | kwwii: did you try adding some dithering? | 04:28 |
kwwii | lapo: it seems you've been busy drawing some pretty nice icons :-) | 04:29 |
lapo | kwwii: not so busy with icons, I'm slacking a lot latelly :-) | 04:29 |
kwwii | lapo: nope, none at all yet - wanted to wait to see about the space available | 04:29 |
nysosym | kwwii: and when u remove the transparency border? | 04:31 |
nysosym | something like this | 04:32 |
nysosym | http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntuslickab6.png | 04:32 |
kwwii | nysosym: yeah, I basically just have to work around that | 04:35 |
nysosym | kwwii: btw. do you work byside also on oxygen? I have heard that the next kde 4 release also have a completed interface (Oxygen, Plasma)? | 04:40 |
kwwii | nysosym: yepp | 04:40 |
nysosym | nice :) | 04:41 |
kwwii | thanks :) | 04:42 |
kwwii | gonna run to the store...bbl | 04:42 |
nysosym | yeah, have fun ;( | 04:42 |
nysosym | ;) | 04:42 |
nysosym | kde 4 will be my first longer session with kde :D | 04:43 |
kwwii | hehe, and I have been using gnome for the last month or so | 04:47 |
kwwii | :-) | 04:47 |
kwwii | ok, I am off | 04:47 |
nysosym | ok, bye bye cu later ;) | 04:47 |
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kwwii | h4writer: hi | 06:03 |
h4writer | hi | 06:03 |
h4writer | I got already an update | 06:04 |
kwwii | h4writer: now I know where to get help from ;-) | 06:04 |
h4writer | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7576/ | 06:04 |
lapo | kwwii: do you know if the OO.o jimmac's tango refresh will end up in feisty? | 06:05 |
h4writer | that's the ./stylesheets/toc2html.xsl | 06:05 |
kwwii | lapo: not sure but it should if possible | 06:05 |
kwwii | h4writer: that looks like fun work :-) | 06:06 |
h4writer | so it is plusminus updated, but it is not what I exactly wanted. But what I want isn't possible with only editing the .xsl files | 06:06 |
kwwii | gotcha | 06:07 |
h4writer | So I will try to do that to. But it will take some time. | 06:07 |
kwwii | I asked around and someone said that you should also talk to the doc team about this stuff | 06:07 |
kwwii | and dholbach will help with any packaging questions | 06:08 |
h4writer | that would be helpful | 06:08 |
kwwii | if you've a question, send it to me per email and I will forward it to him with an introduction :-) | 06:08 |
kwwii | or, if you find him in chat, ask away :-) | 06:09 |
h4writer | Is he able to edit the .c files, so I don't need to do that? | 06:09 |
kwwii | I am sure he could, but he is really busy | 06:09 |
h4writer | okey | 06:10 |
kwwii | we're all really busy working on feisty | 06:10 |
h4writer | yeah, hopefully, the more you do the better it will be;-) | 06:10 |
h4writer | that's why I want to help | 06:11 |
h4writer | I've heard feisty will not come with compiz by default enabled? | 06:11 |
h4writer | and I love internet roaming, except the fact you can't specify the ip yourself. To bad. | 06:12 |
kwwii | yeah, the 3d stuff is still too young to gowith it per defualt | 06:13 |
h4writer | yes I know | 06:13 |
h4writer | I've already tried it a couple of times, but I don't like it how compiz presents it | 06:13 |
h4writer | all that jumping stuff. But I think it will be helpful to create new and better layouts | 06:14 |
kwwii | once it works on most machines it will be, yes | 06:14 |
h4writer | indeed | 06:15 |
h4writer | I'm going to explore the source of yelp again, see you. If you want to say something. I'm still here, so writing my name will notify my;-) | 06:15 |
kwwii | cool, will do | 06:16 |
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fschoep | troy_s: ping | 07:21 |
troy_s | woop | 07:21 |
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h4writer_ | kwwii, I've send a mail;-) | 07:30 |
h4writer_ | kwwii, just saw it was the wrong email address. Now I've send it to the right one;-) | 07:36 |
kwwii | h4writer_: erm, not sure exactly who to ask that about...let me check | 08:03 |
h4writer_ | okey | 08:05 |
kwwii | h4writer_: well, danial is offline, not sure who to ask ... I guess that the doc team would be the right place to start | 08:05 |
h4writer_ | okey | 08:06 |
troy_s | is this all for that minor change to the help system? | 08:06 |
troy_s | it can't possibly be this difficult. | 08:06 |
troy_s | h4writer_: ? | 08:07 |
h4writer_ | it isn't that much that has to be changed | 08:08 |
h4writer_ | but there are some things in C that need to change | 08:08 |
h4writer_ | Like I want the search layout be the same of the toc layout | 08:08 |
h4writer_ | but now there's almost no layout on search | 08:09 |
h4writer_ | So someone need to script the left bar in .C, so I can use it in search | 08:09 |
h4writer_ | that's mostly copy/paste work, because the source is there for toc | 08:09 |
h4writer_ | but I don't have the knowledge about it | 08:10 |
troy_s | that will be an upstream issue | 08:10 |
troy_s | as i believe it comes directly from gnome themselves | 08:10 |
troy_s | again, your power player on that front who will be listened to might be andreasn | 08:10 |
h4writer_ | And I want to have the location bar away. But it need to become again visible when going to man/info/... | 08:11 |
h4writer_ | but I will ask andreasn when he comes online | 08:12 |
troy_s | he is a wealth of information | 08:13 |
troy_s | and he is very in touch with the gnome scene | 08:13 |
troy_s | so if there is anything that is hard coded that is breaking theming rules | 08:13 |
troy_s | he would probably be able to further the cause. | 08:13 |
h4writer_ | okey | 08:14 |
h4writer_ | that's what I have now: http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6084/screenshot1rf5.png | 08:18 |
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h4writer_ | troy_s, I've seen somebody called mdke has already been busy with it. So I will address him;-) | 08:46 |
h4writer_ | http://www.mdke.org/?p=81#comments | 08:46 |
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