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h4writerkwwii, still not online?:p02:00
h4writerI guess not02:03
h4writergoodbye, I'm heading for my bed.02:03
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kwwiimoin all10:57
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klepasmoin andreasn12:44
andreasnhi klepas12:44
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lapohi03:39
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MacSlowGreetings everybody!03:41
lapoyo MacSlow03:41
lapoany 3d accelerated news? :-)03:42
MacSlowwhat (CC)-licence is the tangerine set published under... I've a hard time finding that info...03:42
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lapociao andreasn03:42
andreasn_what's up?=03:43
MacSlowI used the "left" arrow as a button in my talk I did at FOSDEM this weekend and now people want to see my .odp published... but for the 3rd-party artwork used I want to give proper credit03:43
MacSlowhi lapo, andreasn!03:43
andreasn_MacSlow: how was fosdem?03:44
lapoMacSlow: cc-by-sa03:44
lapoMacSlow: like tango03:44
lapoMacSlow: iirc the arrows are ulisse's work (derived from jimmac's?)03:45
MacSlowandreasn_ informative, sweet, thrilling and as always exhausting03:45
lapoMacSlow: btw you can check the metadatas in the svg03:45
MacSlowlapo, I generated a png form the svg added a bit of text in gimp and saved it as png03:45
MacSlowto be useable as "button" in my OO-presentation03:46
MacSlowso I created a derivative03:46
lapoMacSlow: yep, so it needs to be cc-by-sa as well03:46
lapoMacSlow: I can confirm that the tangerine arrows are ulisse's work03:47
MacSlowandreasn, I finally met Michael Meeks, Kristian Hoegsberg, pippin, Nat Friedman and Michael Daenzer in person03:48
MacSlowandreasn and so many more... it was totally wicked!03:48
andreasn_those are cool dudes, I think I've met most of them in person03:48
lapoMacSlow: c'mon amaze your friends with some new sweet stuff! :-)03:49
MacSlowandreasn, also ran into the people behind nouveau again this year... impressive what they put out with the little information they have for nv-hardware03:49
andreasn_MacSlow: yeah, that looks like a amazing project, more free beer to them!03:50
MacSlowlapo, ok... I think a README file, with proper credits, with my talk's .odp in a tarball will do?03:50
lapoMacSlow: I don't really know I'm not a license expert at all :-/03:51
lapoif it would depend on me I'd release everything with x license03:52
andreasn_what was your talk about?03:52
MacSlowand it looks like this year will be very demanding for me03:52
MacSlowandreasn  http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1868103:53
UbugtuOpenOffice.org bug 18681 in cs "Wrong characters in imported Word document" [Defect,Resolved: later] 03:53
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MacSlowandreasn, what's ulisse's real name?04:08
lapoMacSlow: Ulisse Perusin04:08
MacSlowlapo, thx04:08
andreasnlapo should know, it's his cousin04:08
MacSlowah ok04:08
lapoeheh04:09
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nysosymhi there :)04:12
kwwiihowdy nysosym, all04:17
nysosymhi kwwii :)04:18
nysosymhow are u?04:18
nysosymvery nice wallpapers04:18
kwwiinysosym: good, thanks :-) and you?04:18
nysosymhttp://www.hamaddarwish.com/04:18
nysosymalso good :)04:18
nysosymwhat do u do kwwii?04:21
kwwiitrying to figure out why the gnome session splash has a crapy line around it04:21
kwwiiat first I thought it was a matter of using a colormapped pic04:21
kwwiibut that is not the case04:21
nysosymas far as i know, can usplash only have a 1bit alpha channel, maybe is this the problem?04:22
lapoyo kwwii, nice work with gdm and usplash04:23
kwwiilapo: thanks...the gdm is still underway04:24
kwwiiand the session splash simply sucks04:24
lapokwwii: the session splash should die imho (it's fast enough now, it could be killed)04:24
kwwiilapo: yeah, that exact point makes testing is hard04:25
kwwiiapparently it is a transparency issue04:25
lapokwwii: for gdm please consider putting the session and language buttons back under the input box as it was in...uhm 5.1004:25
kwwiifreaky, never seen this before04:25
lapokwwii: can't you just kill it?04:26
nysosymkwwii: see my post above ;)04:26
lapokwwii: it's a lot of work, for uhm...2 seconds? :-)04:26
kwwiinysosym: yeah, that guy made the vista pic wallpapers04:26
kwwiilapo: not really my decision  ;-)04:26
kwwiiyet :p04:26
nysosymkwwii: no, i mean that usplash only can have a 1bit alpha channel04:27
kwwiinysosym: the usplash is 8 bit anyway04:27
kwwiithis thing uses 24bit pngs but can't display the transparency in them corretly04:27
lapokwwii: the usplash is really nice, you have a tiny bit of banding on the "ubuntu" gradient tho04:27
kwwiiyeah, it was a trade-off for more glow04:28
lapokwwii: did you try adding some dithering?04:28
kwwiilapo: it seems you've been busy drawing some pretty nice icons :-)04:29
lapokwwii: not so busy with icons, I'm slacking a lot latelly :-)04:29
kwwiilapo: nope, none at all yet - wanted to wait to see about the space available04:29
nysosymkwwii: and when u remove the transparency border?04:31
nysosymsomething like this04:32
nysosymhttp://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntuslickab6.png04:32
kwwiinysosym: yeah, I basically just have to work around that04:35
nysosymkwwii: btw. do you work byside also on oxygen? I have heard that the next kde 4 release also have a completed interface (Oxygen, Plasma)?04:40
kwwiinysosym: yepp04:40
nysosymnice :)04:41
kwwiithanks :)04:42
kwwiigonna run to the store...bbl04:42
nysosymyeah, have fun ;(04:42
nysosym;)04:42
nysosymkde 4 will be my first longer session with kde :D04:43
kwwiihehe, and I have been using gnome for the last month or so04:47
kwwii:-)04:47
kwwiiok, I am off04:47
nysosymok, bye bye cu later ;)04:47
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kwwiih4writer: hi06:03
h4writerhi06:03
h4writerI got already an update06:04
kwwiih4writer: now I know where to get help from ;-)06:04
h4writerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7576/06:04
lapokwwii: do you know if the OO.o jimmac's tango refresh will end up in feisty?06:05
h4writerthat's the ./stylesheets/toc2html.xsl06:05
kwwiilapo: not sure but it should if possible06:05
kwwiih4writer: that looks like fun work :-)06:06
h4writerso it is plusminus updated, but it is not what I exactly wanted. But what I want isn't possible with only editing the .xsl files06:06
kwwiigotcha06:07
h4writerSo I will try to do that to. But it will take some time.06:07
kwwiiI asked around and someone said that you should also talk to the doc team about this stuff06:07
kwwiiand dholbach will help with any packaging questions06:08
h4writerthat would be helpful06:08
kwwiiif you've a question, send it to me per email and I will forward it to him with an introduction :-)06:08
kwwiior, if you find him in chat, ask away :-)06:09
h4writerIs he able to edit the .c files, so I don't need to do that?06:09
kwwiiI am sure he could, but he is really busy06:09
h4writerokey06:10
kwwiiwe're all really busy working on feisty06:10
h4writeryeah, hopefully, the more you do the better it will be;-)06:10
h4writerthat's why I want to help06:11
h4writerI've heard feisty will not come with compiz by default enabled?06:11
h4writerand I love internet roaming, except the fact you can't specify the ip yourself. To bad.06:12
kwwiiyeah, the 3d stuff is still too young to gowith it per defualt06:13
h4writeryes I know06:13
h4writerI've already tried it a couple of times, but I don't like it how compiz presents it06:13
h4writerall that jumping stuff. But I think it will be helpful to create new and better layouts06:14
kwwiionce it works on most machines it will be, yes06:14
h4writerindeed06:15
h4writerI'm going to explore the source of yelp again, see you. If you want to say something. I'm still here, so writing my name will notify my;-)06:15
kwwiicool, will do06:16
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fschoeptroy_s: ping07:21
troy_swoop07:21
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h4writer_kwwii, I've send a mail;-)07:30
h4writer_kwwii, just saw it was the wrong email address. Now I've send it to the right one;-)07:36
kwwiih4writer_: erm, not sure exactly who to ask that about...let me check08:03
h4writer_okey08:05
kwwiih4writer_: well, danial is offline, not sure who to ask ... I guess that the doc team would be the right place to start08:05
h4writer_okey08:06
troy_sis this all for that minor change to the help system?08:06
troy_sit can't possibly be this difficult.08:06
troy_sh4writer_: ?08:07
h4writer_it isn't that much that has to be changed08:08
h4writer_but there are some things in C that need to change08:08
h4writer_Like I want the search layout be the same of the toc layout08:08
h4writer_but now there's almost no layout on search08:09
h4writer_So someone need to script the left bar in .C, so I can use it in search08:09
h4writer_that's mostly copy/paste work, because the source is there for toc08:09
h4writer_but I don't have the knowledge about it08:10
troy_sthat will be an upstream issue08:10
troy_sas i believe it comes directly from gnome themselves08:10
troy_sagain, your power player on that front who will be listened to might be andreasn08:10
h4writer_And I want to have the location bar away. But it need to become again visible when going to man/info/...08:11
h4writer_but I will ask andreasn when he comes online08:12
troy_she is a wealth of information08:13
troy_sand he is very in touch with the gnome scene08:13
troy_sso if there is anything that is hard coded that is breaking theming rules08:13
troy_she would probably be able to further the cause.08:13
h4writer_okey08:14
h4writer_that's what I have now: http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6084/screenshot1rf5.png08:18
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h4writer_troy_s, I've seen somebody called mdke has already been busy with it. So I will address him;-)08:46
h4writer_http://www.mdke.org/?p=81#comments08:46
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