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| ToddEDM | hey guys, first time on Edubuntu.... | 05:25 |
| ToddEDM | so far so good | 05:25 |
| ToddEDM | what are the differences between this and regular Ubuntu, just the software packages? | 05:26 |
| ToddEDM | and skin | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | well, kinda | 05:30 |
| edubuntugirl | LaserJock: by the way, highvoltage told me to tell you 'http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/26/solid-state-laser-sustains-67-kilowatts-approaching-battlefield/' 13 hours, 39 minutes and 33 seconds ago (on Mon Feb 26 16:50:33 2007) | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | there is some package difference that are pretty significant | 05:30 |
| ToddEDM | oh | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | Edubuntu includes an LTSP server and educational software | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | but they are both Gnome based and come from the same software repositories | 05:31 |
| ToddEDM | im trying to install it on a separate partition on my HDD, no luck, it keeps freezing | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | how much ram do you have? | 05:35 |
| ToddEDM | 512 | 05:37 |
| ToddEDM | sorry, 1 gog | 05:37 |
| ToddEDM | gig | 05:37 |
| ToddEDM | amd turion 64 x2 | 05:37 |
| ToddEDM | i think i might download the latest version, and burn it again | 05:38 |
| bimberi | There might be a "check the cd for defects" boot option | 05:39 |
| ToddEDM | lol i did that, but i was too impatient | 05:42 |
| ToddEDM | it is the AMD64 one i got, i might get the regular iso | 05:42 |
| bimberi | hehe (impatient) | 05:44 |
| ToddEDM | it seemed to be taking too long | 05:44 |
| ToddEDM | i think i was laying in bed too, so i was tired | 05:44 |
| bimberi | yes, i don't think i've ever let it run fully either :) | 05:45 |
| ToddEDM | i dont need to have an active internet connection while installing do i ? | 05:48 |
| bimberi | no | 05:49 |
| bimberi | if you do I think it will load updated packages during the install (not certain though) | 05:50 |
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| ToddEDM | i got it installed | 06:34 |
| ToddEDM | :D | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | awesome | 06:34 |
| ToddEDM | ubuntu, not edubuntu, but its all good | 06:34 |
| ToddEDM | yeah, i just left the computer alone, didnt touch it, lol | 06:34 |
| ToddEDM | not i need to load up on some free software | 06:35 |
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| TeePOG | hi everyone | 11:16 |
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| willvdl | Nik0, please turn off your away notification | 11:46 |
| bimberi | shenki: /win 11 | 12:08 |
| bimberi | !away | 12:08 |
| ubotu | Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'. We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines | 12:08 |
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| constant_ | mmm pete is not online... | 01:15 |
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| constant_ | anyone know when pete usually comes on? | 01:18 |
| constant_ | ? | 01:19 |
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| cliebow | anyonr remember the awesome rpm site..senior moment.. | 03:48 |
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| sbalneav | rpmfind.net? | 03:49 |
| rockprincess | hello :) | 03:49 |
| sbalneav | Hiya | 03:50 |
| rockprincess | the edubuntu network at my school is almost up and running....yesterday juliux connected the server pc to one of the clients.....but today i tried to boot all clients over the network and only got the PXE-E51 Error "NO DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received." | 03:52 |
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| bddebian | heya | 03:54 |
| rockprincess | heya bddebian :) | 03:55 |
| bddebian | Hello Princess :) | 03:55 |
| RichEd | hi sbalneav , rockprincess | 03:55 |
| rockprincess | hello RichEd! | 03:56 |
| RichEd | sbalneav: would you have a quick moment to give rockprincess a pointer on her question / issue above ? | 03:56 |
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| rockprincess | hmmmm | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | rockprincess: OK, maybe you could tell us a bit about the network. | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | Do you have 1 network card in the server, or two? | 03:59 |
| rockprincess | sbalneav: two network cards in the server, one is connected to the dhcp server and the other ones has a static ip address | 04:00 |
| ogra | rockprincess, put the output of ipconfig -a and your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | 04:02 |
| sbalneav | ok, so one of the interfaces (I'm assuming the backbone) is obtaining an IP address via dhcp. The other one has a static address. I'm assuming that network card's connected to a switch, where the terminals hang off of, yes? | 04:02 |
| ogra | that would be the default setup ... | 04:02 |
| rockprincess | do I have to type sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart everytime I boot the thinclients over my server? | 04:02 |
| ogra | no | 04:02 |
| rockprincess | ogra: ok, I'll do that tomorrow, because I'm not at the school right now, and i can't connect to the irc servers in the school, i think the firewalls are blocking them.... | 04:04 |
| RichEd | thanks sbalneav & ogra : rockprincess is doing a project on edubuntu at the uni and it may influence adoption and attitudes | 04:04 |
| sbalneav | rockprincess: Was I correct with the way you've got the network layed out? | 04:04 |
| rockprincess | sbalneav: yeah you were absolutely right! | 04:05 |
| sbalneav | ok, what's the IP address of the static interface? 192.168.0.254? | 04:06 |
| rockprincess | sbalneav: yesterday juliux managed to boot one client over the network, so it all worked and i didn't change the setup at all.... | 04:06 |
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| rockprincess | sbalneav: I'm not sure, but I will take notes properly tomorrow.... | 04:07 |
| rockprincess | the problem is just that I cannot log onto irc from school to ask for advice..... | 04:08 |
| rockprincess | I could only send my problems to the mailing list.... | 04:08 |
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| RichEd | rockprincess: look somewhere for a web based IRC service ... that will help you get outside the firewall on the usual allowed http ports | 04:16 |
| a5benwillis | !seen ogra | 04:16 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ogra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 04:16 |
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| rockprincess | RichEd: i searched for them this morning, but these web based IRC clients only seem to offer other servers but not irc.ubuntu.com.... | 04:19 |
| RichEd | rockprincess: you need freenode.net ... and then join #ubuntu | 04:21 |
| RichEd | or even #edubuntu ;) | 04:21 |
| rockprincess | ok | 04:21 |
| ogra | a5benwillis, pong | 04:32 |
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| a5benwillis | ogra: Good morning sir. I just wanted to tell you that the NCP authentication with LTSP5(edubuntu) hasnt gone well at all. | 04:33 |
| ogra | hmm | 04:33 |
| a5benwillis | Im looking at the pam_ncp_auth.so source now to see if any changes might help. | 04:33 |
| ogra | where did it fail ? | 04:33 |
| a5benwillis | Some of themodules functions dontplay well with SSH | 04:34 |
| a5benwillis | Ifyou have time I can go throughthe whole process? If not I can another time? | 04:34 |
| ogra | no, i'm preparing a milestone CD atm ... did you try to switch off privilege separation in ssh ? | 04:36 |
| a5benwillis | Yes | 04:36 |
| a5benwillis | Maybe we can talk about it another day. It was quite an ordeal. Im tryig to switch itto xdmcp now. | 04:36 |
| a5benwillis | But a learning experience for sure . :-) | 04:36 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 05:20 |
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| a5benwillis | Anone have an easy fixfor the grun error 18 problem? | 05:34 |
| a5benwillis | grub error 18 | 05:36 |
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| Petaris | Hello | 05:45 |
| Petaris | ogra: I have tried that how-to on LDAP auth that you pointed me to several times all on clean installs but every time the machine becomes un-bootable. Even to recovery mode. | 05:47 |
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| Petaris | But I don't think it is a authentication issue as it doesn't even get that far | 05:48 |
| Petaris | for recovery mode it dies after finishing /scripts/init-bottom | 05:48 |
| Petaris | I can't see what it dies on in normal mode | 05:49 |
| Petaris | any thoughts? | 05:49 |
| Petaris | oh, and this is 6.10 LTSP install | 05:49 |
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| Petaris | I can only imagine that PAM has something to do with it as that is where the changes lie | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Petaris: What is it you're trying to do with LDAP? | 05:56 |
| sbalneav | We use OpenLDAP here for authentication. | 05:57 |
| Petaris | sbalneav: I am trying to get the LTSP server to authenticate via OpenLDAP/OpenDirectory on an OS X server | 06:03 |
| Petaris | hrm | 06:07 |
| Petaris | apparently recovery mode isn't dead | 06:07 |
| Petaris | just being very slow all of the sudden | 06:07 |
| Petaris | now its to starting networking... | 06:08 |
| cliebow | that sparc install is exlcusively server..will ubuntu-desktop go on there ok? | 06:09 |
| Petaris | ahh | 06:27 |
| Petaris | finally a clue | 06:27 |
| Petaris | it looks like it has a incorect LDAP server ip address somewhere | 06:28 |
| Petaris | its looking at 127.0.0.1 instead of the real server | 06:28 |
| Petaris | still it should just move on to local authentication I would think | 06:28 |
| ogra | you nee a proper fallback to local accounts | 06:28 |
| ogra | what were the changes to your nsswitch.conf ? | 06:29 |
| ogra | if you get the order wrong, udev doesnt like that | 06:29 |
| Petaris | passwd: ldap compat | 06:29 |
| Petaris | group: ldap compat | 06:29 |
| Petaris | those were the only changes, as per the how-to | 06:29 |
| ogra | switch the order, that will fix it | 06:29 |
| Petaris | ahh | 06:30 |
| Petaris | ok | 06:30 |
| ogra | passwd: compat ldap | 06:30 |
| ogra | group: compat ldap | 06:30 |
| Petaris | I will boot a live cd and do so | 06:30 |
| Petaris | also strange that nss is looking for the ldap server at 127.0.0.1 even though I configured it with the right address | 06:31 |
| Petaris | though there was some weirdness during install | 06:31 |
| Petaris | I will try reconfiguring the package | 06:31 |
| cbx33 | ping ogra | 06:32 |
| ogra | cbx33, pong | 06:32 |
| cbx33 | pm | 06:32 |
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| ogra | just try it :) | 06:56 |
| cliebow | ok..going after it then..hope it has wheels..or even better 4 wheel drive | 06:56 |
| ogra | do you plan to make an ltsp server out of it ? | 06:56 |
| cliebow | i'd like to put it in service somehow.. | 06:56 |
| cliebow | i was thinking that | 06:56 |
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| ogra | juliux recently did that ... seems it was fine ... | 06:56 |
| ogra | you can use the tarball for it ... | 06:57 |
| cliebow | Cool! just build client on an 86 | 06:57 |
| cliebow | right.. | 06:57 |
| LaserJock_ | ogra! | 06:57 |
| ogra | cliebow, or download my tarball and just unpack it :) its edgy ... | 06:57 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz | 06:58 |
| LaserJock_ | ogra: did you see my comments a long time ago on qcad? | 06:58 |
| ogra | LaserJock, nope | 06:58 |
| ogra | any probs with it ? | 06:58 |
| LaserJock_ | ogra: qcad was approved for Main | 06:58 |
| LaserJock_ | but pitti was a little hesitant becuase it doesn't have gettext support | 06:59 |
| ogra | oh, damned i wish i had known that half n hour ago ... | 06:59 |
| ogra | i just updated seeds and metapackages | 06:59 |
| LaserJock_ | yeah, I guess I should have emailed you. I haven't seen you on IRC for some time | 06:59 |
| ogra | hmm, so it has no translations at all ? | 07:00 |
| LaserJock_ | I'm not sure | 07:00 |
| ogra | i was travelling, came back monday night | 07:00 |
| cliebow | ogra: that is newe and improved from my own of a few weeks ago? | 07:01 |
| ogra | cliebow, its a default edgy chroot | 07:01 |
| ogra | if you already have one it shouldnt differ | 07:01 |
| cliebow | very good.. | 07:01 |
| ogra | LaserJock, i just tested qcad, it starts a language selector in the beginning and german seems to be fine at least after i selected it | 07:03 |
| LaserJock_ | ah ok | 07:03 |
| ogra | looks like it had the transalations builtin | 07:03 |
| LaserJock_ | pitti just said that it wouldn't be able to use Rosetta | 07:04 |
| ogra | right | 07:04 |
| LaserJock_ | so it was up to you whether you wanted it on the CD or not | 07:04 |
| ogra | thats a bit ugly | 07:04 |
| LaserJock_ | but I had him approve it anyway so if we did want it it's there | 07:04 |
| ogra | i'll add it with the next -meta change | 07:05 |
| LaserJock_ | I think it's the best CAD program we have | 07:05 |
| ogra | it's fine for the add-on CD# | 07:05 |
| LaserJock_ | and CAD is very much in demand | 07:05 |
| ogra | right | 07:05 |
| ogra | i saldy didnt manage in time to repackage scribus-ng as scribus :( | 07:05 |
| ogra | else i would have replaced the package in main, DTP is as important as CAD | 07:06 |
| LaserJock_ | I see | 07:06 |
| LaserJock_ | yeah | 07:06 |
| ogra | cmake is an evil beast i'm not familiar enough with yet | 07:06 |
| LaserJock_ | I'm going to make a push and see if I can't get octave | 07:06 |
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| a5benwillis | Anyone have an easy fix for the grub error 18 problem after install in Vmware??? | 07:26 |
| a5benwillis | Booting up live cd now to see if I marked the wrong partition bootable when I built the system. | 07:27 |
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| cbx33 | Hey LaserJock_ | 07:59 |
| LaserJock_ | hi Pete | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | howz it going | 08:02 |
| cbx33 | mod_python is installed | 08:02 |
| LaserJock_ | I can't figure out how to use it though | 08:03 |
| LaserJock_ | :( | 08:03 |
| LaserJock_ | I have an example .py but it treats it as plain text | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | hang on I may be able to help you out there | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | did you get my other mesasge | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | guess not | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | I'm gonna copy a folder to your root called python ok? | 08:04 |
| LaserJock_ | k | 08:05 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock_, check it out | 08:07 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock_, pm | 08:10 |
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| sbalneav | ogra: still around? | 08:44 |
| ogra | yep | 08:44 |
| sbalneav | Just got suckered^h^h^h^h^h^h^h volunteered into helping a friend of mine set up an Ubuntu installfest for April in Brandon | 08:45 |
| sbalneav | Is the shipit shipping printed edgy cds, or only dapper? | 08:45 |
| cbx333 | dapper | 08:45 |
| ogra | dappe | 08:45 |
| ogra | r | 08:45 |
| ogra | for LUGS etc there is an option to buy edgy CDs for a small fee iirc | 08:46 |
| LaserJock_ | 1.5 euros /CD 100 minimum | 08:46 |
| RichEd | cbx333: you been upgraded ... with an extra 3 i see | 08:46 |
| cbx333 | hehe | 08:46 |
| cbx333 | I'm around in my original form too | 08:46 |
| LaserJock_ | 100CD minimum | 08:46 |
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| cbx33 | See RichEd | 08:47 |
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| RichEd | later to all people with split personalities / identities | 08:48 |
| cbx33 | RichEd, did you get any info? | 08:48 |
| RichEd | cbx33: still finalising :) | 08:48 |
| RichEd | will let you know | 08:48 |
| cbx33 | RichEd, awesome | 08:48 |
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| highvoltage | RichEd, are you there? | 08:50 |
| cliebow | ogra: you know who installed ubuntu on sparc? | 08:51 |
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| ogra | cliebow, juliux | 08:52 |
| ogra | not around atm | 08:52 |
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| ogra | cliebow, fabbione used to maintain the port, you might find him in #ubuntu-devel | 08:53 |
| cliebow | ok..i got kernel and initrd loaded..and a prompt for filename..havnt a clue what to put there | 08:53 |
| cliebow | ogra:great | 08:53 |
| ogra | but he's an early bird and usually on CEST | 08:53 |
| ogra | so might not be around anymore | 08:54 |
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| bdoin | ogra: I went to the fosdem, I got an edubuntu CD from the ubuntu booth ;) | 09:23 |
| ogra | nice :) | 09:23 |
| bdoin | I went to the kde-edu meeting, there was childsplay author, skolelinux, tux4kids | 09:25 |
| bdoin | http://gcompris.net/wiki/index.php/Fosdem_2007-02 | 09:25 |
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| ogra | i would have loved to go and hold a talk, but italy was agreed before | 09:26 |
| ogra | i hope we'll get some upstreams like kdeedu and moodle to the UES | 09:26 |
| cbx333 | ogra, short meeting ;) | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I wonder if Carsten (Kalzium dev) would want to go | 09:28 |
| LaserJock | ogra: have you tried out the add-on CD functionality | 09:28 |
| ogra | i just moved over the last bits and pieces, no i havent tried it beyond looking that all contents were there | 09:29 |
| LaserJock | do we need any changes to tasks or anything? | 09:30 |
| ogra | no | 09:30 |
| cbx333 | ogra, can i ask a quick question? | 09:30 |
| ogra | g-a-i should care | 09:30 |
| cbx333 | i have an app written in python..was going to try a C port to gain more knowledge.....know of a good primer on the net? | 09:31 |
| ogra | LaserJock, all apps should have a .desktop file in the g-a-i data directory on the CD ... | 09:31 |
| bdoin | what is UES ? | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | ogra: do we need to do that or is that automatic? | 09:32 |
| ogra | the edubuntu conference | 09:32 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UES-Sevilla | 09:32 |
| ogra | LaserJock, the packages need to have it | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | ahh | 09:32 |
| ogra | mvo knows about automatisms | 09:32 |
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| LaserJock | k, maybe I'll try to poke him about it | 09:33 |
| ogra | i think there are some hacks in LP so that existing .desktop files are grabbed | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | just so I know how it's done and make sure the 2nd CD apps have everything they need | 09:33 |
| ogra | or in app-install-data | 09:33 |
| ogra | cbx333, not really ... Cis the only thing i really learned from books ... | 09:34 |
| cbx333 | ogra, heh, guess I'd better hit the books then | 09:34 |
| cbx333 | Thinking then I can help out in even more ways | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: I've been learning C++ with gchemutils | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | i remember | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | it's a good excercise | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | i know | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | so I'm gonna port phimage to C | 09:35 |
| cbx33 | which it will benefit from | 09:36 |
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| ogra | C is not the problem ... automake and friends are :P | 09:36 |
| cbx33 | ogra, don;t say that :p | 09:36 |
| cbx33 | but a single C file shouldn't be a problem | 09:37 |
| cbx33 | besides I need experience in packaging compilable packages | 09:37 |
| cbx33 | or more exp should I say | 09:37 |
| cbx33 | people just generally use gedit for C? | 09:37 |
| cbx33 | c/C++ fro ma file creation POV | 09:38 |
| cbx33 | what's the diff? | 09:38 |
| bdoin | sad, I was not aware of the UES meeting, sounds very interresting | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: the diff between C and C++? | 09:41 |
| cbx333 | yeh | 09:42 |
| cbx333 | ogra, mdz is quick on the old minutes isn't he | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: I *think* it's mostly the object orientedness | 09:43 |
| ogra | dunno, is he ? | 09:43 |
| sbalneav | LOL | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | haha | 09:44 |
| sbalneav | I meant to type that over here | 09:44 |
| sbalneav | phhhy | 09:44 |
| sbalneav | Now I've made an *ss of myself :) | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | oh, I've seen much worse | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | not from you of course ;-) | 09:45 |
| cbx333 | from MEEE | 09:45 |
| sbalneav | Oh, I've made enough of an idiot of myself online to last two lifetimes. | 09:46 |
| sbalneav | I've just now filled up ubuntu-devel with drivel. | 09:46 |
| sbalneav | My levity was meant for this channel :) | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | sbalneav: we understand :) | 09:47 |
| ajmitch | sbalneav: now, your name is on ubuntu-dev in the proposed members section - were you planning to apply for MOTU? | 09:48 |
| sbalneav | I am, but I need to get past probably another month of h*ll here at work | 09:48 |
| ajmitch | ok | 09:48 |
| ajmitch | the process has changed, etc | 09:48 |
| ogra | and he needs some more uploads | 09:48 |
| ajmitch | yep | 09:48 |
| sbalneav | We went live with a new program at work, and I've not had anywhere near the time I'd like to put in since about mid november. | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | ogra: we'll just have to follow up on all the proposed members, reminding them of the new process | 09:49 |
| sbalneav | Things are toning down now, but it's taken a bit. | 09:49 |
| ogra | sbalneav, nobody had (apparently) feisty looks lie edgy with new ltsp sound and second CD | 09:49 |
| ogra | *like | 09:49 |
| sbalneav | I'm now the boss here as well, so in addition to the new program, I've also had personel stuff to deal with. | 09:50 |
| sbalneav | ogra: hey, the sound alone's a big step forward. | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | at least there was progress | 09:50 |
| ogra | yes, but three of 8 specs is extremly lame ... | 09:51 |
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| sbalneav | Most of them were the ldap stuff. I assume that got deferred? | 09:52 |
| ogra | feisty was the worst average wrt specs since edubuntu exists ... | 09:52 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: I did worse | 09:52 |
| ogra | LaserJock, me too ... i wasnt better this release | 09:52 |
| ogra | sbalneav, yeps, everything depends on ldap ... and ldap has major bugs with ssh as well as i want a better pam plugin handling before even starting to think about the other stuff | 09:53 |
| sbalneav | ogra: We're shooting for some good news though: jammcq and I are meeting this weekend. We're going to get the ltsp5 tarballs out, based on the Ubuntu stuff, so that will be a big pr win. | 09:54 |
| ogra | great | 09:54 |
| ogra | sabdfl will love you for that | 09:54 |
| ogra | he was nagging me recently | 09:54 |
| ogra | after herd5 is out i'll finally bump the ltsp version | 09:55 |
| sbalneav | We finally just decided that unless we lock ourselves in a room, it will never get done. | 09:55 |
| sbalneav | So that's what we're doing in Toronto this weekend. | 09:55 |
| ogra | well, its trivial | 09:55 |
| ogra | an edgy tarbal exists, just take that one | 09:55 |
| sbalneav | If you're going to be around, we might ask you some questions. | 09:55 |
| ogra | all you need is some scripts for the server side | 09:55 |
| ogra | sure | 09:55 |
| sbalneav | Nah, I think we're going to use the feisty one. | 09:55 |
| sbalneav | We want the sexy sexy sound. | 09:56 |
| ogra | that needs a lot on the server side ... | 09:56 |
| ogra | gst pulse plugin, libasound-plugins ... | 09:56 |
| sbalneav | Just gstreamer, right? | 09:56 |
| ogra | asoundconf ... | 09:56 |
| ogra | no | 09:56 |
| ogra | it emulates an alsa device on top of pulse | 09:56 |
| sbalneav | right. | 09:57 |
| ogra | hstreame just uses the alsasink from its autodetection :) | 09:57 |
| ogra | *gstreamer | 09:57 |
| ogra | (gst-pulse is needed for the gnome volume control ... not needed if you use alsamixer) | 09:58 |
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| clm | pete here by any chance? | 10:02 |
| clm | ... | 10:04 |
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| cbx333 | pete who? | 10:10 |
| cbx333 | me? | 10:10 |
| cliebow | ahh: there's Pete | 10:10 |
| cbx333 | what did I do wrong? | 10:10 |
| cbx333 | :p | 10:10 |
| cliebow | Couldnt figure out who Pete was 'til now 8~) | 10:11 |
| cbx333 | is clm after me? | 10:11 |
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| ogra | ask him :) | 10:12 |
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| cbx333 | hey Constant_M are you after me? | 10:12 |
| Constant_M | are yooooooou pete? | 10:13 |
| Constant_M | .... | 10:14 |
| cbx333 | I am a pete yes | 10:14 |
| Constant_M | highvoltage: hey j | 10:14 |
| cbx333 | ogra, you do screensaver stuff right? | 10:14 |
| ogra | sadly, yes | 10:14 |
| cbx333 | what's the advantage of writing stuff with GLX instead of just GL | 10:14 |
| cbx333 | awww don't say it like that :p | 10:15 |
| Constant_M | cool cool. jc said id find u here... | 10:15 |
| ogra | no idea, i only maintain the package | 10:15 |
| ogra | s | 10:15 |
| cbx333 | awww...dang it ogra :p | 10:15 |
| cbx333 | anyone who would know that you knwo of? | 10:15 |
| cbx333 | Constant_M, what can I do for you | 10:16 |
| Constant_M | i understand ur goin to go work for Canonical? | 10:16 |
| cbx333 | heheh...um...nope | 10:16 |
| cbx333 | not that I know of | 10:16 |
| cbx333 | I'd like to work for Canonical | 10:16 |
| Constant_M | u not the school sysadmin guy? | 10:17 |
| cbx333 | I am indeed | 10:17 |
| cbx333 | but I'm not going to work for Canonical, unless you know something I don't :p | 10:17 |
| ogra | cbx333, https://launchpad.net/~macslow | 10:17 |
| Constant_M | hehe oh then i prob misunderstood... | 10:17 |
| Constant_M | but you are leaving your job? | 10:17 |
| cbx333 | I hoping to soon yes | 10:17 |
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| Constant_M | cooooz, im working with jc (well used to,.. he finished 2day...) | 10:18 |
| cbx333 | ahh | 10:18 |
| Constant_M | and he said ur leavin ur job | 10:19 |
| Constant_M | and im planning to leave for the UK soon | 10:19 |
| cbx333 | ahhh how soon? | 10:19 |
| Constant_M | my visa is valid from the 1st of april | 10:20 |
| Constant_M | I can be in the UK on the 3rd | 10:20 |
| cbx333 | well i don't think I'll have left by then | 10:20 |
| cbx333 | I'm planning to leave by september | 10:20 |
| Constant_M | mmm crap | 10:20 |
| Constant_M | well I have a job already if I go | 10:21 |
| Constant_M | but i would love some kind of IT related job (pref. Linux related) | 10:21 |
| cbx333 | well most of my job is windows | 10:22 |
| cbx333 | but I have a linux desktop | 10:22 |
| cliebow | me too...oh forgot i already have one...but i watn the BIG bucks | 10:22 |
| cbx333 | and I'm working on getting more linux in there | 10:22 |
| Constant_M | well the job I'm currently at is the first job I have that I actually work on Linux 24/7 | 10:22 |
| Constant_M | the rest was Windows... | 10:23 |
| Constant_M | and here and there a mac | 10:24 |
| Constant_M | cbx333, you dont by any chance know any people in the IT industry over there that can offer me a job? | 10:26 |
| cbx333 | hmm | 10:27 |
| cbx333 | not at the moment | 10:27 |
| Constant_M | would it be possible for you keep an eye open for something like that? coz it's going to be kinda crappy to go to the UK and work on a farm... :) | 10:28 |
| cbx333 | of course | 10:29 |
| Constant_M | tnx | 10:29 |
| cbx333 | sorry i couldn't be of more help | 10:29 |
| Constant_M | it's cool | 10:29 |
| Constant_M | but im sure we can talk again in september.. | 10:30 |
| Constant_M | hehe | 10:30 |
| cbx333 | thanks ogra | 10:32 |
| Constant_M | im using GPRS to connect here... the lag is like 5 seconds.. | 10:33 |
| Constant_M | thx for the help, I'll show up again sometime | 10:36 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: so do we have a tool to select "young children, highschool and university" tasks when you load the 2nd CD? | 10:39 |
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| ogra | LaserJock, nope | 10:40 |
| ogra | we have g-a-i popping up offering you the CD contents for now | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | so it's just an individual package basis? | 10:40 |
| ogra | no tasks yet | 10:40 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: do you want to add some sort of task handling for Feisty or leave it as is? | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | mvo: I think we could do it like this: a) define a new applications.menu in menu-data on the CD that has a "tasks" category (or something like this) | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | mvo: and then we need to get three desktop files into the dir on the CD that install a collection of packages | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | [1:41pm] mvo: but I think it would be better to talk with ogra about this (maybe the three of us + colin) | 10:47 |
| ogra | that sounds like getting hardly a FF exception | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 10:47 |
| ogra | i.e. rather like a big change | 10:49 |
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| ogra | :-D | 11:25 |
| ogra | http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/20/197251 | 11:25 |
| bimberi | wow, very nice | 11:32 |
| ajmitch | hey bimberi | 11:33 |
| ajmitch | ogra: good to see some press | 11:34 |
| bimberi | argh, the link to the NSW Department of Education article 404's :/ | 11:34 |
| ajmitch | article by elkbuntu, too | 11:34 |
| bimberi | hi ajmitch :) | 11:34 |
| ajmitch | trailing ) on the url | 11:34 |
| bimberi | ooh yes, i missed the author! | 11:34 |
| bimberi | aah yes, thanks ajmitch | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | I like the comment at the bottom ;-) | 11:41 |
| ogra | sigh ... they still didnt get it ... | 11:42 |
| bimberi | I like 'No Hardware left behind' | 11:43 |
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| RichEd | ogra: what did you mean by "sigh ... they still didnt get it " | 12:05 |
| RichEd | hi bimberi, LaserJock, ajmitch | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: did you read the comment | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | hi | 12:06 |
| ogra | RichEd, they say that debian-edu is better because they ship KDE which in turn has Kdeedu | 12:06 |
| ogra | we ship Kdeedu without KDE ... thats what they still dont get ... | 12:07 |
| ogra | and it just fires up more flames on the GNOME vs KDE war | 12:07 |
| RichEd | should I mail melissa to comment as the author ... if we comment, it mght start some flaming | 12:07 |
| ogra | no, let them advertise if they are happy | 12:07 |
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| RichEd | overall it's a nice article though ... will make some people think and visit i reckon | 12:08 |
| ogra | yep | 12:08 |
| ogra | i like it | 12:08 |
| RichEd | the NSW people may be worth inviting to the summit ... if we can get the right link from melissa | 12:09 |
| RichEd | i'll google the reference to see if I can find the correct page | 12:09 |
| ogra | we should also invite someone from the SA government after their announcement last week :) | 12:10 |
| ogra | *ZS | 12:10 |
| ogra | err | 12:10 |
| ogra | *ZA | 12:10 |
| === ogra hates his kbd some days ... | ||
| RichEd | which announcement ? | 12:11 |
| RichEd | hilton theunissen (inkululeko ex tuxlabs) is trying to bring across some decision making people, and play host to them | 12:11 |
| ogra | http://www.info.gov.za/speeches/2007/07022211451001.htm | 12:12 |
| ogra | "Cabinet approved a policy and strategy for the implementation of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) in government. " | 12:12 |
| ogra | it was even on german newssites | 12:12 |
| RichEd | loading it now ... but remember policy and strategy is "bush speak" ... i'll wait for action myself | 12:18 |
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