=== caravena [n=caravena@103-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.77] has joined #edubuntu [01:00] !seen ogra [01:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ogra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.244] has joined #edubuntu === ktoponce [n=ktoponce@24.2.85.66] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.2.244] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@103-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.2.244] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === ToddEDM [n=ubuntu@S01060015e9ea7be3.fm.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:25] hey guys, first time on Edubuntu.... [05:25] so far so good [05:26] what are the differences between this and regular Ubuntu, just the software packages? [05:26] and skin [05:30] well, kinda [05:30] LaserJock: by the way, highvoltage told me to tell you 'http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/26/solid-state-laser-sustains-67-kilowatts-approaching-battlefield/' 13 hours, 39 minutes and 33 seconds ago (on Mon Feb 26 16:50:33 2007) [05:30] there is some package difference that are pretty significant [05:30] oh [05:31] Edubuntu includes an LTSP server and educational software [05:31] but they are both Gnome based and come from the same software repositories [05:31] im trying to install it on a separate partition on my HDD, no luck, it keeps freezing [05:35] how much ram do you have? [05:37] 512 [05:37] sorry, 1 gog [05:37] gig [05:37] amd turion 64 x2 [05:38] i think i might download the latest version, and burn it again [05:39] There might be a "check the cd for defects" boot option [05:42] lol i did that, but i was too impatient [05:42] it is the AMD64 one i got, i might get the regular iso [05:44] hehe (impatient) [05:44] it seemed to be taking too long [05:44] i think i was laying in bed too, so i was tired [05:45] yes, i don't think i've ever let it run fully either :) [05:48] i dont need to have an active internet connection while installing do i ? [05:49] no [05:50] if you do I think it will load updated packages during the install (not certain though) === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.2.244] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.2.244] has joined #edubuntu === ToddEDM [n=todd@S01060015e9ea7be3.fm.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:34] i got it installed [06:34] :D [06:34] awesome [06:34] ubuntu, not edubuntu, but its all good [06:34] yeah, i just left the computer alone, didnt touch it, lol [06:35] not i need to load up on some free software === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === ToddEDM [n=todd@S01060015e9ea7be3.fm.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu [] === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === Nik0 [n=lewmnik@host-137-163-16-202.edu.hel.fi] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.3.178] has joined #edubuntu === freet15__ [n=freet15@61.149.3.178] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.42.85] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt === Feral_Kid [n=FeralKid@red-corp-201.143.151.175.telnor.net] has joined #edubuntu === Feral_Kid [n=FeralKid@red-corp-201.143.151.175.telnor.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.3.178] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === wizzy [n=andyr@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.3.178] has joined #edubuntu === Nik0 [n=lewmnik@host-137-163-16-202.edu.hel.fi] has joined #edubuntu === Nik0 is back. === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has left #edubuntu ["Wait] === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu === TeePOG [n=Morat@137.158.63.49] has joined #edubuntu [11:16] hi everyone === Nik0 is away: Gone away for now. 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[01:19] ? === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@pc-212-51-218-194.p.lodz.pl] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:48] anyonr remember the awesome rpm site..senior moment.. === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [03:49] rpmfind.net? [03:49] hello :) [03:50] Hiya [03:52] the edubuntu network at my school is almost up and running....yesterday juliux connected the server pc to one of the clients.....but today i tried to boot all clients over the network and only got the PXE-E51 Error "NO DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received." === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:54] heya [03:55] heya bddebian :) [03:55] Hello Princess :) [03:55] hi sbalneav , rockprincess [03:56] hello RichEd! [03:56] sbalneav: would you have a quick moment to give rockprincess a pointer on her question / issue above ? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [03:59] hmmmm [03:59] rockprincess: OK, maybe you could tell us a bit about the network. [03:59] Do you have 1 network card in the server, or two? [04:00] sbalneav: two network cards in the server, one is connected to the dhcp server and the other ones has a static ip address [04:02] rockprincess, put the output of ipconfig -a and your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [04:02] ok, so one of the interfaces (I'm assuming the backbone) is obtaining an IP address via dhcp. The other one has a static address. I'm assuming that network card's connected to a switch, where the terminals hang off of, yes? [04:02] that would be the default setup ... [04:02] do I have to type sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart everytime I boot the thinclients over my server? [04:02] no [04:04] ogra: ok, I'll do that tomorrow, because I'm not at the school right now, and i can't connect to the irc servers in the school, i think the firewalls are blocking them.... [04:04] thanks sbalneav & ogra : rockprincess is doing a project on edubuntu at the uni and it may influence adoption and attitudes [04:04] rockprincess: Was I correct with the way you've got the network layed out? [04:05] sbalneav: yeah you were absolutely right! [04:06] ok, what's the IP address of the static interface? 192.168.0.254? [04:06] sbalneav: yesterday juliux managed to boot one client over the network, so it all worked and i didn't change the setup at all.... === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu [04:07] sbalneav: I'm not sure, but I will take notes properly tomorrow.... [04:08] the problem is just that I cannot log onto irc from school to ask for advice..... [04:08] I could only send my problems to the mailing list.... === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:16] rockprincess: look somewhere for a web based IRC service ... that will help you get outside the firewall on the usual allowed http ports [04:16] !seen ogra [04:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ogra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === theresa [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === theresa is now known as rockprincess [04:19] RichEd: i searched for them this morning, but these web based IRC clients only seem to offer other servers but not irc.ubuntu.com.... [04:21] rockprincess: you need freenode.net ... and then join #ubuntu [04:21] or even #edubuntu ;) [04:21] ok [04:32] a5benwillis, pong === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [04:33] ogra: Good morning sir. I just wanted to tell you that the NCP authentication with LTSP5(edubuntu) hasnt gone well at all. [04:33] hmm [04:33] Im looking at the pam_ncp_auth.so source now to see if any changes might help. [04:33] where did it fail ? [04:34] Some of themodules functions dontplay well with SSH [04:34] Ifyou have time I can go throughthe whole process? If not I can another time? [04:36] no, i'm preparing a milestone CD atm ... did you try to switch off privilege separation in ssh ? [04:36] Yes [04:36] Maybe we can talk about it another day. It was quite an ordeal. Im tryig to switch itto xdmcp now. [04:36] But a learning experience for sure . :-) === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === theresa [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [05:20] ping ogra === caravena [n=caravena@252-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d429d0.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:34] Anone have an easy fixfor the grun error 18 problem? [05:36] grub error 18 === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [05:45] Hello [05:47] ogra: I have tried that how-to on LDAP auth that you pointed me to several times all on clean installs but every time the machine becomes un-bootable. Even to recovery mode. === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A957FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:48] But I don't think it is a authentication issue as it doesn't even get that far [05:48] for recovery mode it dies after finishing /scripts/init-bottom [05:49] I can't see what it dies on in normal mode [05:49] any thoughts? [05:49] oh, and this is 6.10 LTSP install === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] I can only imagine that PAM has something to do with it as that is where the changes lie [05:56] Petaris: What is it you're trying to do with LDAP? [05:57] We use OpenLDAP here for authentication. [06:03] sbalneav: I am trying to get the LTSP server to authenticate via OpenLDAP/OpenDirectory on an OS X server [06:07] hrm [06:07] apparently recovery mode isn't dead [06:07] just being very slow all of the sudden [06:08] now its to starting networking... [06:09] that sparc install is exlcusively server..will ubuntu-desktop go on there ok? [06:27] ahh [06:27] finally a clue [06:28] it looks like it has a incorect LDAP server ip address somewhere [06:28] its looking at 127.0.0.1 instead of the real server [06:28] still it should just move on to local authentication I would think [06:28] you nee a proper fallback to local accounts [06:29] what were the changes to your nsswitch.conf ? [06:29] if you get the order wrong, udev doesnt like that [06:29] passwd: ldap compat [06:29] group: ldap compat [06:29] those were the only changes, as per the how-to [06:29] switch the order, that will fix it [06:30] ahh [06:30] ok [06:30] passwd: compat ldap [06:30] group: compat ldap [06:30] I will boot a live cd and do so [06:31] also strange that nss is looking for the ldap server at 127.0.0.1 even though I configured it with the right address [06:31] though there was some weirdness during install [06:31] I will try reconfiguring the package [06:32] ping ogra [06:32] cbx33, pong [06:32] pm === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d429d0.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena 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[06:56] i'd like to put it in service somehow.. [06:56] i was thinking that === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@adsl-75-14-214-216.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:56] juliux recently did that ... seems it was fine ... [06:57] you can use the tarball for it ... [06:57] Cool! just build client on an 86 [06:57] right.. [06:57] ogra! [06:57] cliebow, or download my tarball and just unpack it :) its edgy ... [06:58] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz [06:58] ogra: did you see my comments a long time ago on qcad? [06:58] LaserJock, nope [06:58] any probs with it ? [06:58] ogra: qcad was approved for Main [06:59] but pitti was a little hesitant becuase it doesn't have gettext support [06:59] oh, damned i wish i had known that half n hour ago ... [06:59] i just updated seeds and metapackages [06:59] yeah, I guess I should have emailed you. I haven't seen you on IRC for some time [07:00] hmm, so it has no translations at all ? [07:00] I'm not sure [07:00] i was travelling, came back monday night [07:01] ogra: that is newe and improved from my own of a few weeks ago? [07:01] cliebow, its a default edgy chroot [07:01] if you already have one it shouldnt differ [07:01] very good.. [07:03] LaserJock, i just tested qcad, it starts a language selector in the beginning and german seems to be fine at least after i selected it [07:03] ah ok [07:03] looks like it had the transalations builtin [07:04] pitti just said that it wouldn't be able to use Rosetta [07:04] right [07:04] so it was up to you whether you wanted it on the CD or not [07:04] thats a bit ugly [07:04] but I had him approve it anyway so if we did want it it's there [07:05] i'll add it with the next -meta change [07:05] I think it's the best CAD program we have [07:05] it's fine for the add-on CD# [07:05] and CAD is very much in demand [07:05] right [07:05] i saldy didnt manage in time to repackage scribus-ng as scribus :( [07:06] else i would have replaced the package in main, DTP is as important as CAD [07:06] I see [07:06] yeah [07:06] cmake is an evil beast i'm not familiar enough with yet [07:06] I'm going to make a push and see if I can't get octave === RichEd-1 [n=richard@217.205.109.249] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu [07:26] Anyone have an easy fix for the grub error 18 problem after install in Vmware??? [07:27] Booting up live cd now to see if I marked the wrong partition bootable when I built the system. === RichEd-1 is now known as CloneAttackOnSim === CloneAttackOnSim is now known as RichEd [07:59] Hey LaserJock_ [07:59] hi Pete [08:02] howz it going [08:02] mod_python is installed [08:03] I can't figure out how to use it though [08:03] :( [08:03] I have an example .py but it treats it as plain text [08:03] hang on I may be able to help you out there [08:03] did you get my other mesasge [08:03] guess not [08:04] I'm gonna copy a folder to your root called python ok? [08:05] k [08:07] LaserJock_, check it out [08:10] LaserJock_, pm === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx333 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:44] ogra: still around? [08:44] yep [08:45] Just got suckered^h^h^h^h^h^h^h volunteered into helping a friend of mine set up an Ubuntu installfest for April in Brandon [08:45] Is the shipit shipping printed edgy cds, or only dapper? [08:45] dapper [08:45] dappe [08:45] r [08:46] for LUGS etc there is an option to buy edgy CDs for a small fee iirc [08:46] 1.5 euros /CD 100 minimum [08:46] cbx333: you been upgraded ... with an extra 3 i see [08:46] hehe [08:46] I'm around in my original form too [08:46] 100CD minimum === Nik0 [n=lewmnik@dsl-hkigw8-feedf900-96.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=somebody@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] See RichEd === RichEd is off to the hotel [08:48] later to all people with split personalities / identities [08:48] RichEd, did you get any info? [08:48] cbx33: still finalising :) [08:48] will let you know [08:48] RichEd, awesome === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:50] RichEd, are you there? [08:51] ogra: you know who installed ubuntu on sparc? === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.3.178] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === wizzy [n=andyr@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:52] cliebow, juliux [08:52] not around atm === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.3.178] has joined #edubuntu [08:53] cliebow, fabbione used to maintain the port, you might find him in #ubuntu-devel [08:53] ok..i got kernel and initrd loaded..and a prompt for filename..havnt a clue what to put there [08:53] ogra:great [08:53] but he's an early bird and usually on CEST [08:54] so might not be around anymore === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu [09:23] ogra: I went to the fosdem, I got an edubuntu CD from the ubuntu booth ;) [09:23] nice :) [09:25] I went to the kde-edu meeting, there was childsplay author, skolelinux, tux4kids [09:25] http://gcompris.net/wiki/index.php/Fosdem_2007-02 === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [09:26] i would have loved to go and hold a talk, but italy was agreed before [09:26] i hope we'll get some upstreams like kdeedu and moodle to the UES [09:27] ogra, short meeting ;) [09:28] hmm, I wonder if Carsten (Kalzium dev) would want to go [09:28] ogra: have you tried out the add-on CD functionality [09:29] i just moved over the last bits and pieces, no i havent tried it beyond looking that all contents were there [09:30] do we need any changes to tasks or anything? [09:30] no [09:30] ogra, can i ask a quick question? [09:30] g-a-i should care [09:31] i have an app written in python..was going to try a C port to gain more knowledge.....know of a good primer on the net? [09:31] LaserJock, all apps should have a .desktop file in the g-a-i data directory on the CD ... [09:31] what is UES ? [09:32] ogra: do we need to do that or is that automatic? [09:32] the edubuntu conference [09:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UES-Sevilla [09:32] LaserJock, the packages need to have it [09:32] ahh [09:32] mvo knows about automatisms === RichEd [n=richard@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [09:33] k, maybe I'll try to poke him about it [09:33] i think there are some hacks in LP so that existing .desktop files are grabbed [09:33] just so I know how it's done and make sure the 2nd CD apps have everything they need [09:33] or in app-install-data [09:34] cbx333, not really ... Cis the only thing i really learned from books ... [09:34] ogra, heh, guess I'd better hit the books then [09:34] Thinking then I can help out in even more ways [09:35] cbx33: I've been learning C++ with gchemutils [09:35] yeh [09:35] i remember [09:35] it's a good excercise [09:35] i know [09:35] so I'm gonna port phimage to C [09:36] which it will benefit from === cliebow [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [09:36] C is not the problem ... automake and friends are :P [09:36] ogra, don;t say that :p [09:37] but a single C file shouldn't be a problem [09:37] besides I need experience in packaging compilable packages [09:37] or more exp should I say [09:37] people just generally use gedit for C? [09:38] c/C++ fro ma file creation POV [09:38] what's the diff? [09:40] sad, I was not aware of the UES meeting, sounds very interresting [09:41] cbx33: the diff between C and C++? [09:42] yeh [09:42] ogra, mdz is quick on the old minutes isn't he [09:43] cbx33: I *think* it's mostly the object orientedness [09:43] dunno, is he ? [09:44] LOL [09:44] haha [09:44] I meant to type that over here [09:44] phhhy [09:44] Now I've made an *ss of myself :) [09:45] oh, I've seen much worse [09:45] not from you of course ;-) [09:45] from MEEE [09:46] Oh, I've made enough of an idiot of myself online to last two lifetimes. [09:46] I've just now filled up ubuntu-devel with drivel. [09:46] My levity was meant for this channel :) [09:47] sbalneav: we understand :) [09:48] sbalneav: now, your name is on ubuntu-dev in the proposed members section - were you planning to apply for MOTU? [09:48] I am, but I need to get past probably another month of h*ll here at work [09:48] ok [09:48] the process has changed, etc [09:48] and he needs some more uploads [09:48] yep [09:49] We went live with a new program at work, and I've not had anywhere near the time I'd like to put in since about mid november. [09:49] ogra: we'll just have to follow up on all the proposed members, reminding them of the new process [09:49] Things are toning down now, but it's taken a bit. [09:49] sbalneav, nobody had (apparently) feisty looks lie edgy with new ltsp sound and second CD [09:49] *like [09:50] I'm now the boss here as well, so in addition to the new program, I've also had personel stuff to deal with. [09:50] ogra: hey, the sound alone's a big step forward. [09:50] at least there was progress [09:51] yes, but three of 8 specs is extremly lame ... === LaserJock is a loser :( [09:52] Most of them were the ldap stuff. I assume that got deferred? [09:52] feisty was the worst average wrt specs since edubuntu exists ... [09:52] LaserJock: I did worse [09:52] LaserJock, me too ... i wasnt better this release [09:53] sbalneav, yeps, everything depends on ldap ... and ldap has major bugs with ssh as well as i want a better pam plugin handling before even starting to think about the other stuff [09:54] ogra: We're shooting for some good news though: jammcq and I are meeting this weekend. We're going to get the ltsp5 tarballs out, based on the Ubuntu stuff, so that will be a big pr win. [09:54] great [09:54] sabdfl will love you for that [09:54] he was nagging me recently [09:55] after herd5 is out i'll finally bump the ltsp version [09:55] We finally just decided that unless we lock ourselves in a room, it will never get done. [09:55] So that's what we're doing in Toronto this weekend. [09:55] well, its trivial [09:55] an edgy tarbal exists, just take that one [09:55] If you're going to be around, we might ask you some questions. [09:55] all you need is some scripts for the server side [09:55] sure [09:55] Nah, I think we're going to use the feisty one. [09:56] We want the sexy sexy sound. [09:56] that needs a lot on the server side ... [09:56] gst pulse plugin, libasound-plugins ... [09:56] Just gstreamer, right? [09:56] asoundconf ... [09:56] no [09:56] it emulates an alsa device on top of pulse [09:57] right. [09:57] hstreame just uses the alsasink from its autodetection :) [09:57] *gstreamer [09:58] (gst-pulse is needed for the gnome volume control ... not needed if you use alsamixer) === clm [n=clm@196.38.218.25] has joined #edubuntu [10:02] pete here by any chance? [10:04] ... === cliebow [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [10:10] pete who? [10:10] me? [10:10] ahh: there's Pete [10:10] what did I do wrong? [10:10] :p [10:11] Couldnt figure out who Pete was 'til now 8~) [10:11] is clm after me? === clm_ [n=clm@196.38.218.24] has joined #edubuntu [10:12] ask him :) === clm_ is now known as Constant_M [10:12] hey Constant_M are you after me? [10:13] are yooooooou pete? [10:14] .... [10:14] I am a pete yes [10:14] highvoltage: hey j [10:14] ogra, you do screensaver stuff right? [10:14] sadly, yes [10:14] what's the advantage of writing stuff with GLX instead of just GL [10:15] awww don't say it like that :p [10:15] cool cool. jc said id find u here... [10:15] no idea, i only maintain the package [10:15] s [10:15] awww...dang it ogra :p [10:15] anyone who would know that you knwo of? [10:16] Constant_M, what can I do for you [10:16] i understand ur goin to go work for Canonical? [10:16] heheh...um...nope [10:16] not that I know of [10:16] I'd like to work for Canonical [10:17] u not the school sysadmin guy? [10:17] I am indeed [10:17] but I'm not going to work for Canonical, unless you know something I don't :p [10:17] cbx333, https://launchpad.net/~macslow [10:17] hehe oh then i prob misunderstood... [10:17] but you are leaving your job? [10:17] I hoping to soon yes === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:18] cooooz, im working with jc (well used to,.. he finished 2day...) [10:18] ahh [10:19] and he said ur leavin ur job [10:19] and im planning to leave for the UK soon [10:19] ahhh how soon? [10:20] my visa is valid from the 1st of april [10:20] I can be in the UK on the 3rd [10:20] well i don't think I'll have left by then [10:20] I'm planning to leave by september [10:20] mmm crap [10:21] well I have a job already if I go [10:21] but i would love some kind of IT related job (pref. Linux related) [10:22] well most of my job is windows [10:22] but I have a linux desktop [10:22] me too...oh forgot i already have one...but i watn the BIG bucks [10:22] and I'm working on getting more linux in there [10:22] well the job I'm currently at is the first job I have that I actually work on Linux 24/7 [10:23] the rest was Windows... [10:24] and here and there a mac [10:26] cbx333, you dont by any chance know any people in the IT industry over there that can offer me a job? [10:27] hmm [10:27] not at the moment [10:28] would it be possible for you keep an eye open for something like that? coz it's going to be kinda crappy to go to the UK and work on a farm... :) [10:29] of course [10:29] tnx [10:29] sorry i couldn't be of more help [10:29] it's cool [10:30] but im sure we can talk again in september.. [10:30] hehe [10:32] thanks ogra [10:33] im using GPRS to connect here... the lag is like 5 seconds.. [10:36] thx for the help, I'll show up again sometime === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A957FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:39] ogra: so do we have a tool to select "young children, highschool and university" tasks when you load the 2nd CD? === cbx333 is now known as cbx33 [10:40] LaserJock, nope [10:40] we have g-a-i popping up offering you the CD contents for now [10:40]