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| vprints | so no special letter problems? | 12:39 |
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| Riddell | vprints: I've not heard of the problem no | 12:40 |
| Riddell | that doesn't mean it doesn't happen | 12:40 |
| vprints | k | 12:51 |
| vprints | still would like to clarify before filing a report | 12:52 |
| vprints | anyway | 12:52 |
| vprints | good night | 12:52 |
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| manchicken | Kopete seems to be going stupid. | 02:16 |
| manchicken | There we go. | 02:16 |
| manchicken | Killing and restarting works fine now. | 02:16 |
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| Majost | what does automounting on kubuntu? | 02:38 |
| yuriy | Majost: what's the problem? | 02:41 |
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| nixternal | anyone have a wired mouse I can use to end it all right now? :) | 03:51 |
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| Majost | yuriy, no problem | 03:55 |
| Majost | just curious | 03:55 |
| nixternal | dude, KHelpCenter in KDE4 is going to be solid! | 04:01 |
| Jucato | nixternal: glad to hear that :) | 04:03 |
| Jucato | now if only KControl would be rocking too :) | 04:03 |
| nixternal | me too, that means all of my work here at Kubuntu, will have to be redone once again | 04:03 |
| Jucato | ooh... | 04:03 |
| Jucato | well, you have time :D | 04:04 |
| Jucato | I mean... KDE4 is still so so :D | 04:04 |
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| nixternal | OK, after this week I am going full time KDE4 dev stuff for at least 2 or 3 months | 04:06 |
| nixternal | helping out with the KDE 4 help stuff | 04:06 |
| nixternal | heh, helping out with help to help show others how to help themselves to help others | 04:06 |
| Jucato | O.o | 04:06 |
| nixternal | hehe | 04:06 |
| Jucato | good luck! I wish you the best :D | 04:07 |
| nixternal | I just need to stear clear, as everyone I am working with is using BSD | 04:07 |
| nixternal | they try daily to make me switch | 04:07 |
| Jucato | heh yeah PhilRod :D | 04:07 |
| nixternal | yup | 04:07 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:07 |
| nixternal | and others | 04:07 |
| nixternal | annma uses Edubuntu now I think | 04:08 |
| Jucato | philrod hasn't tried to make me switch yet. but Sho_ is marketing Gentoo to me at every oppurtunity | 04:08 |
| Jucato | she still uses a customized/compiled KDE on Mandriva | 04:08 |
| nixternal | haha, Sho tried the same with me as well | 04:08 |
| nixternal | heck, everyone in #kde gets the use Gentoo or goto #your_distro | 04:08 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:08 |
| Jucato | heheh | 04:08 |
| Jucato | so you've noticed :D | 04:08 |
| nixternal | she being annma correct? | 04:09 |
| nixternal | because you almost just confused the hell out of me I think | 04:09 |
| Jucato | yep. Anne-Marie | 04:09 |
| nixternal | ya, she has put me to KOffice2 work already | 04:09 |
| Jucato | hah! glad I'm not a dev yet :P | 04:10 |
| Jucato | no one can put me to work except in #kubuntu lol | 04:10 |
| nixternal | that is nuts, I get it to where I can start going through it, and then boom, it crashes into a downward spiral | 04:10 |
| nixternal | man, I just figured out/found out that you can make firefox respect the help:/ links like Konqi and KHelpCenter does | 04:10 |
| Jucato | oh? | 04:11 |
| Jucato | the Welcome to the wondeful world of Linux Firefox bug? | 04:11 |
| nixternal | that is gone | 04:12 |
| Jucato | ah kool | 04:12 |
| nixternal | we will be using a startpage similar to the other 3 distros | 04:12 |
| Jucato | hm.. I haven't seen the starting page of those... | 04:12 |
| nixternal | the issue was with using about-kubuntu for the ff front page | 04:12 |
| nixternal | one sec, let me see if I built it on the server | 04:12 |
| === Jucato suddenly remembers to ask Tonio about new Konqeuror Web Shortcuts for help.ubuntu.com/community... | ||
| nixternal | http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/firefox-startpage/ | 04:13 |
| Jucato | btw, how about the indexing bugs in khelpcenter? fixed too? | 04:13 |
| nixternal | there it is | 04:13 |
| Jucato | ah kool | 04:13 |
| Jucato | hm.. ok that was a bit funny... | 04:13 |
| nixternal | those bugs will always be there until 1) we use something other than htdig | 04:13 |
| nixternal | 2) we get htdig from Novell since they can index and search w/o issues | 04:14 |
| nixternal | 3) we end up merging KHelpCenter w/ strigi | 04:14 |
| nixternal | which is what we are working on now | 04:14 |
| nixternal | but not for Kubuntu | 04:14 |
| nixternal | I don't think Riddell really likes the whole mono thing | 04:14 |
| Jucato | ah.. so basically unless those happen, search in khelpcenter for applications is a bit useles... | 04:14 |
| Jucato | i mean the Applications index | 04:14 |
| nixternal | Jucato: yes | 04:15 |
| Jucato | :( | 04:15 |
| nixternal | we are the only distro with a broken KHelpCenter | 04:15 |
| Jucato | ouch... | 04:15 |
| nixternal | We can grab it from Mepis | 04:15 |
| nixternal | brb, I am going to make a phone call really quick | 04:15 |
| Jucato | and help:/ isn't really that easy to use unless you know the pages | 04:15 |
| Jucato | ok | 04:15 |
| Jucato | nixternal: btw, it seems that there's an Ubuntu brown background behind the header on that firefox-startpage. it shows up before the header image can load, and there's a 1px gap between the header and the main content, which shows the color brown | 04:17 |
| yuriy | yay new start page | 04:22 |
| yuriy | nixternal: not gonna wait for feisty to move on to kde4 stuff? oh, are you moving on after string freeze? | 04:22 |
| nixternal | Jucato: I see that | 04:29 |
| nixternal | yuriy: yes | 04:29 |
| nixternal | not moving on leaving Kubuntu of course, but going to spend some time behind the scenes of the KDE camp for a bit | 04:30 |
| Jucato | we'll miss you :D | 04:30 |
| Jucato | er... :( | 04:30 |
| yuriy | the more kde4 development the better | 04:31 |
| nixternal | yup, although my part isn't going to be all that hardcore just yet | 04:31 |
| Jucato | ugh!! another wake up call to get my act together and start learnign! | 04:31 |
| Jucato | learning* | 04:31 |
| Jucato | after lunch :P | 04:31 |
| nixternal | hehe | 04:32 |
| yuriy | we're doing the "canonical cover algorithm" | 04:32 |
| yuriy | i keep thinking hmm Canonical? | 04:33 |
| nixternal | lol | 04:33 |
| nixternal | we are covering canonical, unilineal, and some other type of culturalism in Anthropology, and I do the same thing | 04:33 |
| nixternal | 21:35:56 [ CIA-4] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3871 kubuntu/firefox-startpage/kubuntu.css: good eye Jucato, changed the header background color | 04:37 |
| nixternal | :) | 04:37 |
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| Jucato | nixternal: heh thanks :) | 05:13 |
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| freeflying | Lure: ping | 08:48 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| freeflying | Hobbsee: hi | 08:48 |
| Hobbsee | heya freeflying :) | 08:49 |
| === Jucato drowns | ||
| Hobbsee | oh dear | 08:51 |
| === Hobbsee resucitates Jucato | ||
| Jucato | :D | 08:51 |
| Jucato | I am brought back to life by Hobbsee, goddess of the long pointy stick of doom :D | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:51 |
| === Hobbsee is goddess over everything, not over the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , right? | ||
| === Hobbsee just rules with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D | ||
| Hobbsee | :P | 08:52 |
| Jucato | hehe | 08:52 |
| Jucato | brb... I shall return!! | 08:52 |
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| Hobbsee | Jucato: wow, i just learnt soemthing else off the ML :P | 09:14 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: what did you learn? :D | 09:15 |
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| Hobbsee | Jucato: ctrl+f{1,2,3,4} | 09:15 |
| Jucato | to switch virtual desktops? | 09:15 |
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| Jucato | oh I see :D | 09:16 |
| === Jucato just read the mail | ||
| Jucato | Ctrl+Alt+cursor keys works too (I think that's one of the defaults) | 09:16 |
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| _StefanS_ | mornings ! | 09:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: ping ? | 09:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: Has the kde4 packages been built for feisty yet ? :D | 09:33 |
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| Lure | freeflying: pong | 09:47 |
| freeflying | Lure: do you have time for kpowersave-0.7.2? | 09:48 |
| Lure | freeflying: I tried it just briefly, the issue is that 0.7.x is supposed to be unstable branch | 09:49 |
| Lure | freeflying: question is do we want it to have it in still | 09:49 |
| freeflying | Lure: :) | 09:50 |
| Lure | freeflying: otherwise I am more than happy if you do ;-) | 09:50 |
| freeflying | ok | 09:50 |
| Lure | freeflying: personally, I think it makes sense to include it as it works with HAL directly, so using Ubuntu ACPI support | 09:50 |
| Lure | freeflying: but on the other hand some users may use it because of powersaved which may work for their system (while ubuntu support does not) | 09:51 |
| freeflying | Lure: in this release dbus was intergrated | 09:52 |
| Lure | freeflying: yes, it uses dbus/hal directly (no powersaved dependacy) | 09:52 |
| freeflying | Lure: I see | 09:53 |
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| freeflying | I can't use s2disk with powersaved | 09:54 |
| Lure | freeflying: I think HAL has full support for uswsusp (s2ram/s2disk) in Feisty, so you should be fine | 09:57 |
| freeflying | Lure: I'm on feisty already, never can s2disk :) | 09:58 |
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| GNUro | 'lo! | 10:03 |
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| Lure | freeflying: you have uswsusp installed? | 10:05 |
| freeflying | Lure: yes | 10:06 |
| _StefanS_ | hi Lure | 10:06 |
| freeflying | Lure: now it's was removed due to dependancy | 10:06 |
| Lure | hi _StefanS_ | 10:09 |
| Lure | freeflying: what kind of dependancy? | 10:09 |
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| freeflying | Lure: libvolumeid0 (>= 093-0ubuntu9) | 10:10 |
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| mhb | morning | 10:14 |
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| Tonio_ | hi ;) | 10:36 |
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| Jucato | hi Tonio_ | 10:38 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_! | 10:38 |
| === Tonio_ out, going to take my macbook :) | ||
| Jucato | ooh | 10:41 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: sorry to poke you again. since I don't have feisty atm, I don't really know this. but have the Ubuntu-related Konqueror Web Shorcuts been updated in Feisty? | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: not by me | 10:45 |
| Jucato | ah ok... | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: konq shortcuts got updated, yes | 10:45 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: cool. will there be separate shortcuts for help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com? (the feisty ones only had w.u.c.) | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | dunno | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | dunno what was updated | 10:46 |
| Jucato | oh ok... guess I'll find out soon... | 10:46 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: launchpad and apt will tell you | 11:02 |
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| _StefanS_ | hey Tonio_ | 11:33 |
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| Hobbsee | does someone know that the feisty keyboard layout is apparently broken? | 12:00 |
| === Hobbsee tries to remember if anyone mentioned it before | ||
| Riddell | works for me | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: in english, or what? | 12:00 |
| Riddell | british | 12:01 |
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| Hobbsee | !laptop | 12:24 |
| ubotu | Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org | 12:24 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: works for me too (french layout) | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: right | 01:43 |
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| goldenear | Tonio_: I wonder : will feisty include the default folders I show you on my laptop (Music, Documents, Movies, ...) ? | 02:20 |
| goldenear | I use this little trick every day on my KDE (and many OS X users too) and I find it very useful and user friendly. | 02:21 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: I guess I should add my stuff to the bzr kubuntu-default-settings ? | 02:45 |
| Riddell | kwwii: yes please, what do you have? | 02:46 |
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| goldenear | Tonio_: are you around ? | 02:49 |
| freeflying | Lure: uswsusp in ubuntu is quite out-of-date, and also FTBFS | 02:55 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I'll have an usplash, kdm and ksplash | 02:55 |
| Riddell | rocking | 02:55 |
| kwwii | Riddell: basically the same as edgy but I've touched up the logo a bit | 02:55 |
| Riddell | kwwii: let me know when you've committed and I'll upload | 02:55 |
| kwwii | Riddell: will do, expect it sometime in the next couple of days | 02:56 |
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| nixternal | moin | 03:09 |
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| Jucato | moin nixternal! | 03:11 |
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| dinosaur-rus | hi | 03:28 |
| dinosaur-rus | is there arts plugin for beep-media-player? | 03:32 |
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| bddebian | heya | 03:54 |
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| nixternal | boo | 04:04 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:05 |
| mhb | LongPointyStick: I did mention that my layout has broken recently | 04:25 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: I find that works a lot of Kopete | 04:26 |
| Jucato | dinosaur-rus: that feature you are requesting is already implemented in Feisty | 04:26 |
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| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: where can I enable that? | 04:27 |
| Jucato | I think it's automatic. debconf stuff, iirc | 04:27 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: but I still don't know what dpkg asked when removing the old kernel... :/ | 04:31 |
| dinosaur-rus | Jucato: so I'm not absolutely sure that my system will load after rebooting.. | 04:32 |
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| manchicken | DaSkreech: What? | 04:41 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: Lunch done? | 04:43 |
| Jucato | DaSkreech: hm.. 12 hours early, 12 hours late | 04:43 |
| DaSkreech | manchicken: rebooting kopete | 04:46 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: Well go learn!! | 04:46 |
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| manchicken | Ah. | 04:46 |
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| Jucato | DaSkreech: is that a backlog of replies? | 04:47 |
| Jucato | you are one weird dude... | 04:47 |
| larsivi | motu ppl : kvpnc don't work out of the box - something with kdesu | 04:47 |
| larsivi | (Jucato sent me here :P ) | 04:48 |
| Jucato | I initially sent you to #ubuntu-motu though | 04:48 |
| === DaSkreech is all caught up now :) | ||
| larsivi | true | 04:48 |
| Jucato | it would probably also be nice if you could give more details about the error | 04:48 |
| larsivi | I will in a second :) | 04:48 |
| DaSkreech | all the chans have a slew of things to catch up on except #nepomuk-kde :) | 04:49 |
| DaSkreech | Idle buggers | 04:49 |
| larsivi | After entering my su password, I get "Fann ikkje kommandoen su-to-root -X -c /usr/bin/kvpnc ." | 04:49 |
| larsivi | which translated is "Couldn't find command ..." | 04:49 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: no jjesse? | 04:50 |
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| dinosaur-rus | larsivi: su-to-root ??? | 04:57 |
| larsivi | dinosaur-rus: I found that somewhat curious too | 05:01 |
| dinosaur-rus | larsivi: as a temporary workaround, you may create a symlink to sudo | 05:02 |
| DaSkreech | hunger: Hello | 05:09 |
| larsivi | hmm, but -X is not an option for sudo ... | 05:10 |
| hunger | DaSkreech: Hi there! | 05:12 |
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| Riddell | fabo: what happened to ksniffer 2.0? | 07:05 |
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| mhb | I'd certainly go for a "stable" source for libdvdcss packages | 07:23 |
| mhb | I mean a server you can count on will last and contain the packages you need | 07:23 |
| DaSkreech | Man I wish that the K-Menu could have profils | 07:24 |
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| DaSkreech | Would so help with having ubuntu installed | 07:26 |
| Riddell | mhb: that's not really possible | 07:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: how come? I thought only getting it into the M/R/U/M repositories is not possible | 07:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: the problem is that the solution described on that page tells you to enable a third-party repository with a whole lot of third-party packages, which is rather dangerous when the only thing you need is one package | 07:33 |
| mhb | Riddell: I'd vote for a simple third-party repository (something like http://mhb.ath.cx/libdvdcss/ ) that would contain only this package | 07:34 |
| Riddell | well we can't rely on third party repositories being there indefinately, especially for packages which are illegal in the US and EU | 07:36 |
| Riddell | I mean, we don't have any choice but to point in those directions, it's just life that eventually they'll go away | 07:36 |
| mhb | yeah, but we can't do much about the fact that people need these packages | 07:38 |
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| mhb | Riddell: can't we make the third-party repository outside these countries? | 07:39 |
| mhb | Riddell: I know sooner or later it will be illegal in other ones | 07:39 |
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| Riddell | we can't make third party repositories do anything, that's what makes them third party :) | 07:40 |
| mhb | Riddell: hmm | 07:40 |
| Riddell | and servers outside the EU/US get bandwidth problems if we point large numbers of people at them | 07:41 |
| mhb | Riddell: I don't have many ideas left :o) | 07:41 |
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| mhb | Riddell: I meant "we" as in "some normal folks who incidentally are Kubuntu devs" | 07:43 |
| larsivi | Hey, would someone mind looking at this and tell me if I need to check anything else before I get any feedback? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/73620 :) | 07:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73620 in kdebase "Sudden crash via QPixmap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 07:43 |
| Riddell | mhb: the only thing I care about is that it includes correct information for Kubuntu | 07:43 |
| Riddell | it didn't seem to mention kaffeine when I looked at it | 07:44 |
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| mhb | Riddell: I think the person has complained about the fact that it's hard to find that repository | 07:45 |
| mhb | Riddell: which is what I'm trying to solve :o) | 07:46 |
| mhb | Riddell: yeah, I'll Kubuntuify it in the meantime | 07:46 |
| mhb | Riddell: sorry for bothering you that much :o) | 07:46 |
| Riddell | no problem, thanks for taking it up | 07:46 |
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| larsivi | and adept tells me installing kdebase-dbg for kde 3.5.6 will break, seems like it depends on the wrong version of libkonq4 (4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1 whereas there is no ~edgy1 behind the one installed) | 07:50 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: Question | 07:52 |
| Riddell | larsivi: what version of kubuntu? | 07:52 |
| larsivi | Riddell: Edgy with kde 3.5.6 | 07:52 |
| Riddell | larsivi: what does apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2a say? | 07:53 |
| Erunno | Hi Mr. Riddel, small question: Are the new "Software Properties" ported over to qt ? | 07:54 |
| Erunno | *Riddell | 07:55 |
| larsivi | Riddell: http://paste.dprogramming.com/dpf516qg.php | 07:56 |
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| Riddell | Erunno: we now have software-properties-kde yes | 07:58 |
| Riddell | larsivi: same for libkonq4 ? | 07:59 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: How does k3b-mp3 get to be housed in universe? Isn't that a multiverse package? | 08:00 |
| Erunno | Riddell: Another question in case you can spare some time: Shouldn't SSLv2 be disablabled by default ? | 08:00 |
| Erunno | *disabled | 08:00 |
| larsivi | Riddell: http://paste.dprogramming.com/dpcqqvad.php | 08:00 |
| nixternal | mhb: poke back | 08:01 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: there's no copying restrictions on it | 08:01 |
| Riddell | Erunno: why? | 08:01 |
| DaSkreech | Ah it doesn't make mp3s | 08:01 |
| Riddell | larsivi: it seems to have a rouge 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 installed, not sure where that would be from but you probably want to not have it there | 08:01 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: it decodes mp3s sure | 08:02 |
| Erunno | Riddell: I read that it was deemed unsecure. It's not present in Firefox config and turned off in Opera by default. | 08:02 |
| mhb | nixternal: thanks :o) I actually kind of solved what I needed myself :o) Thanks anyway :o) | 08:02 |
| Riddell | Erunno: I generally follow the KDE default for stuff like that, they know more than I do | 08:02 |
| nixternal | mhb: no prob :) | 08:02 |
| larsivi | Riddell: hmm, how would I go about that? | 08:03 |
| larsivi | and wouldn't it be rogue instead of rouge ? :P | 08:03 |
| Riddell | larsivi: wget'ing the real packages and dpkg --install it/them | 08:05 |
| larsivi | hmm, ok, thanks :) | 08:06 |
| Riddell | larsivi: it may well affect all the kdebase packages you have | 08:08 |
| larsivi | Riddell: I'm not aware that I have installed any KDE packages not from either of the repositories in those pastes | 08:09 |
| Erunno | Riddell: Here's a link from a MSDN blog explaining that SSLv2 transaction can be decrypted. | 08:11 |
| Erunno | http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/18/ssl-tls-amp-a-little-activex-how-ie7-strikes-a-balance-between-security-and-compatibility.aspx | 08:11 |
| larsivi | Riddell: which address would I use to wget the 3.5.6 packages? | 08:13 |
| Riddell | larsivi: dunno, look on the web server | 08:15 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Hows Your inquier work? | 08:19 |
| nixternal | heh | 08:19 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: going well I take it? | 08:20 |
| nixternal | lol | 08:20 |
| nixternal | sure deal | 08:20 |
| nixternal | you are talking about the recent blog post I take it? | 08:21 |
| DaSkreech | Yup | 08:22 |
| Erunno | Riddell: Oh, just remembered something: From the screenshots I've seen on the wiki the new software properties have no ok/apply buttons. | 08:28 |
| Erunno | Riddell: This seems inconsistent to me, most apps in KDE have ok/apply/cancel buttons. | 08:29 |
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| mhb | ErunnoAway: true, it's more gnome-ish in that manner | 08:34 |
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| mhb | Riddell: I'd go for ok/apply, too (it's not hard to code them AFAIK)... but it's not essential | 08:34 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: ping? | 09:10 |
| kwwii | Riddell: if you are interested, we are having a meeting on oxygen in a bit, one topic is putting them in libs | 09:10 |
| DaSkreech | Oxygen libs? | 09:14 |
| Riddell | kwwii: ok, will be back in 15 | 09:15 |
| kwwii | Riddell: great :-) | 09:18 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/kusplash_tester2.png | 09:32 |
| DaSkreech | As long as it doesn't bounce :) | 09:34 |
| gnomefreak | 2 progress bars? | 09:38 |
| sebas | That's for dualboot machines or dual processors. | 09:38 |
| sebas | Or dualscreen, maybe. | 09:38 |
| Erunno | lol | 09:38 |
| kwwii | lol | 09:38 |
| kwwii | no, the bottom, black one is the background of the actual progress bar | 09:39 |
| sebas | I think nobody understood that. | 09:39 |
| kwwii | the blue on will be shown on top of the black one | 09:39 |
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| kwwii | but you have to make all the parts work with the same 256 color palette ;-) | 09:40 |
| sebas | kwwii: where's the meeting, by the way? | 09:40 |
| sebas | And will Wade attend? | 09:40 |
| sebas | And when exactly? | 09:40 |
| kwwii | sebas: it is in #oxygen in about 5 min | 09:40 |
| gnomefreak | kwwii: ah. i did see it like that with ubuntus the other day but i think it was lag causing it so wasnt sure if yours was lagging or not | 09:40 |
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| sebas | Aye | 09:40 |
| Erunno | Would it be possible to get the option to show the boot output with F2 ? | 09:40 |
| sebas | Erunno: And hide it by pressing it again | 09:41 |
| kwwii | Erunno: it would be cool, but I think that the problem is that they reaccess the text after they turn it on-off-on or such | 09:41 |
| DaSkreech | Can We nothave the blue hardcoded in usplash? | 09:42 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: ? | 09:42 |
| sebas | It is a theme, not hardcoded, right? | 09:42 |
| DaSkreech | i took off quiet in grub and it came up blue | 09:43 |
| DaSkreech | I asked where the blue was coming from and was told it's hard coded | 09:43 |
| kwwii | freaky | 09:43 |
| kwwii | never heard of that | 09:43 |
| kwwii | ahh, you mean grub itself was blue | 09:43 |
| Erunno | I'm not sure if it is worth the trouble to switch back to the progress bar. I think someone should be able to endure the kernel output until the next reboot ;-) | 09:43 |
| Erunno | Even he the user hit F2 by accident. | 09:44 |
| kwwii | yeah, that is what the bootsplash does per default :-) | 09:44 |
| kwwii | I'll talk to some people and see what the deal is | 09:44 |
| Erunno | Much appreciated :D | 09:45 |
| DaSkreech | Erunno: You mean full screen instead of like removing quiet ? | 09:50 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: if by the grub you mean the dmesg messages yes | 09:50 |
| kwwii | yeah, that is from the palette | 09:51 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: Sorry, I didn't fully understand the question. | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: so it can be themed? | 09:55 |
| DaSkreech | you said press F2 | 09:56 |
| DaSkreech | something you said after that made me think that you wanted either the Redhat style messages or the Term2 messages | 09:56 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: I would guess that that can be changed somehow | 09:56 |
| DaSkreech | Not the ones that you get from taking out quiet from grub | 09:56 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: the biggest problem is that there is nobody to ask about this stuff | 09:56 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: Yup :_) in code | 09:56 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: I haven't used Redhat in a while (FC 2 was my last try) so I'm struggling to see the difference. | 09:57 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: Just ignore my, I'll find it out eventually ;-) | 09:57 |
| Erunno | *me | 09:57 |
| DaSkreech | Erunno: different between? I gave you three options awhile ago | 09:57 |
| mhb | kwwii: nice | 09:58 |
| mhb | kwwii: looking forward to the splash screen & background :o) | 09:59 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: I don't understand the difference between "Redhat style messages" and "Term 2 messages". I'll try to learn about the difference to answer your question eventually. | 10:00 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: And I don't want to clutter this channel with newbie questions when the answers can be found with Google. | 10:01 |
| DaSkreech | Erunno: In redhat it shows a window into Term2 but it's much less scary than dropping to a console (Term2) and having messages stream by | 10:01 |
| DaSkreech | Plus in Redhat in switch back to progress bar :) | 10:02 |
| DaSkreech | Personally I like having both :) | 10:02 |
| kwwii | mhb: I hope to have more done soon | 10:03 |
| mhb | Riddell: sorry about that mail, I didn't know about the issues | 10:03 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: Sounds nice (in case I understand it correctly). I just wanted to be able to see the kernel output occasionaly | 10:03 |
| Erunno | DaSkreech: And yes, I know about dmesg will probably do the same for me :P | 10:04 |
| DaSkreech | Erunno: yeah I just take out the word quiet in /boot/grub/menu.lst and I get both :) | 10:04 |
| mhb | kwwii: okay, good to hear | 10:05 |
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| seele | is there something wrong with DCOP? i just got a series of errors (consecutive popups) on activating a context menu | 10:32 |
| seele | along with the regular message they said "Lame." "Blame." "Rename." ... what does that mean? (and why is it in an error message?) | 10:33 |
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| mhb | kwwii: somehow I like the ubuntu splash more | 10:35 |
| mhb | kwwii: especially the logo | 10:36 |
| kwwii | mhb: yeah, I am still working :-) | 10:36 |
| mhb | kwwii: okay, just feedbacking you :o) | 10:38 |
| kwwii | mhb: thanks...I was looking at the first stuff and thinking the same thing | 10:39 |
| DaSkreech | mhb: strange huh? | 10:40 |
| mhb | DaSkreech: what is strange? | 10:41 |
| DaSkreech | That the gnome philosophy is having the system get out of your way for you to do work yet they have this bold stand in your face splash | 10:42 |
| DaSkreech | Whereas KDE is much more about equal beauty of the system along with functionality and the splash is much more subtle | 10:42 |
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| toma | Riddell: how do i go from a confirmed uvf exception to a sync request? | 10:47 |
| Riddell | toma: main or universe? | 10:47 |
| toma | universe | 10:47 |
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| Riddell | toma: add the details to the bug and subscribe ubuntu-archive I think | 10:47 |
| toma | oki thnxs | 10:48 |
| jdong | subscribe or assign? :) | 10:48 |
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| jdong | I just got ratted out for subscribing uvf instead of assigning | 10:49 |
| Riddell | I've not heard of that | 10:49 |
| Riddell | who by? | 10:50 |
| jdong | a_j_m_i_t_c_h | 10:50 |
| jdong | my UVFe was ignored for a week because I subscribed uvf instead of assigning :) | 10:51 |
| jdong | lol | 10:51 |
| jdong | I think it's just everyone's duty here to give me a hard time :) | 10:51 |
| Riddell | ah, well, he's antipodean | 10:51 |
| Riddell | ubuntu-archive are wanting subscription last I knew | 10:51 |
| jdong | yeah, -archive wants subscription | 10:52 |
| jdong | (at least for backports) | 10:52 |
| jdong | speaking of which | 10:52 |
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| toma | i assigned it to them, i'm ready to be screamed at ;-) | 10:52 |
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| Lure | toma: you should subscribe ubuntu-archive, otherwise they will not process it | 11:10 |
| toma | done | 11:11 |
| toma | thnxs | 11:11 |
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| mhb | good night | 11:29 |
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