[12:14] <Soul^Shadow> was xhost needing to shutdown control host
[12:14] <yaccin> ok ^^
[12:14] <yaccin> lol
[12:14] <Mena> jhutchins, Thanks
[12:14] <Mena> Thanks all for helpping ....Bye...
[12:14] <Mena> :)
[12:16] <Gtwy> okay it really just took 10 minutes to go from "selecting" my timezone to the next panel when i clicked continue
[12:16] <Gtwy> is there something wrong with the livecd because this is the 2nd computer ive tried it on
[12:16] <jhutchins> coreymon77: run through this and see if you find anything: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[12:17] <jhutchins> Gtwy: What's it's md5sum?
[12:17] <jhutchins> coreymon77: run alsaconf
[12:17] <wir> halllo analle
[12:18] <Soul^Shadow> ok now freezes when i try connect gggrrr....
[12:18] <coreymon77> there is no such command as alsacong
[12:18] <sergio_> Hello!! How install Webcam Genius VideoCAM look in Ubuntu???? Pleaseee help!!!
[12:18] <coreymon77> alsaconf*
[12:19] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Ok, try muting the spdif out.
[12:19] <coreymon77> ???
[12:19] <sergio_> How install Webcam "Genius VideoCAM look" in Ubuntu? Sorry my language. I am spanish
[12:20] <jhutchins> coreymon77: In kmix.
[12:20] <jhutchins> !es | sergio_
[12:20] <ubotu> sergio_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:20] <jhutchins> sergio_: google your model and v4l (Video 4 linux).
[12:20] <sergio_> ok, thans!
[12:20] <sergio_> thanks!
[12:21] <jhutchins> sergio_: Good luck!  Webcams is tricksy beasts.
[12:21] <coreymon77> jhutchins: spdif?
[12:21] <jhutchins> Sony Phillips Digital Inteface Format.
[12:21] <jhutchins> Look for an spdif out.
[12:22] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You get no start-up sound, right?
[12:22] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i get no sound, period
[12:22] <coreymon77> but that too
[12:23] <coreymon77> jhutchins: and there is no spdif out
[12:23] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Oh well.
[12:23] <jhutchins> coreymon77: system-settings -> Multimedia & Sound, check the settings, check the "test sound" button.
[12:23] <jhutchins> coreymon77: in the mixer, set the ballance one notch off center.
[12:23] <jhutchins> I got hungry horses and toe-tapping wife, gtg.
[12:24] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nopr
[12:24] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nothing
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> GGAHAHH!! now limewire freezes :P
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> ahhh Phew
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> its ok
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> whew that would of sucked if it crashed :P
[12:28] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Ok, you need to get somebody else in on this, I'm totally out of ideas.
[12:29] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Last suggestion is to use lspci to make sure of the sound card model, then google that with kubuntu and "no sound" and see what you get.
[12:29] <coreymon77> one more thing
[12:29] <coreymon77> im looking atthe site you gave me
[12:29] <coreymon77> and it told me to apt a file
[12:30] <coreymon77> but doing so give me tons of dep problems
[12:30] <jhutchins> Hmm.  Well, that could be what's going on.  I really have to go.
[12:34] <wilman> how to do a timed shell command?
[12:34] <wilman> my computer on halt in 1 hour
[12:39] <hleonc> join #ubuntu-co
[12:39] <nixternal> NO
[12:39] <nixternal> ;)
[12:42] <slyfox> Please help, why do I get thsi error?
[12:42] <slyfox> ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[12:42] <slyfox> ./admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found
[12:42] <slyfox> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[12:42] <slyfox> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[12:43] <slyfox> I have
[12:43] <slyfox> ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[12:43] <slyfox> ./admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found
[12:43] <slyfox> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[12:43] <slyfox> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[12:43] <slyfox> I have AUTOCONF 2.60 installed
[12:43] <epimeth> so I'm getting closer to the problem, I think
[12:43] <epimeth> it seems to be a problem with kio_media_mounthelper
[12:44] <epimeth> but I can't find its config file!!!
[12:44] <epimeth> and google is useless
[12:44] <epimeth> !kio_media_mounthelper
[12:44] <epimeth> !kio
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <visitor> HI
[12:47] <visitor> WHAT IS THE TOPIC ON THIS SERVER?
[12:47] <visitor> oop, sorry for the caps
[12:48] <slyfox> can someone pelase help me to isntall this? http://xoomer.alice.it/rockman81/kmobiletools/kmobiletools-svn-2007-02-27.tar.bz2
[12:51] <wimpies> Hi all, my CD hotpluging does not work anymore ... what might be wrong ?
[12:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: AH HA!
[12:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: that could be a problem
[12:57] <coreymon77> oh
[12:57] <coreymon77> or not
[12:57] <coreymon77> anyways
[12:59] <slyfox> coreymon77: can you help ?
[12:59] <julle> Anyone who has installed WoW BC via cedega ?
[01:00] <coreymon77> slyfox: im the one who needs help here
[01:02] <Okapi> hello to all
[01:03] <Okapi> I have problem to run xman. Error: No manual pages found. Anyone can help?
[01:07] <yamen> to polski kanal ?
[01:08] <yamen> anybody can help me with wpa-psk connection ?
[01:10] <kdefreak> Hmm... kscreensaver doesn't want to quit, what process do I kill to regain access to my desktop?
[01:11] <yamen> duno
[01:11] <morvok> kdefreak: are you running any apps on it?
[01:11] <morvok> if not you can reset the Xserver by ctrl+alt+backspace.
[01:12] <morvok> but you will lose whatever is running!
[01:12] <yamen> how can i connect to wpa-psk network ?
[01:12] <kdefreak> morvok: Konversation (*waves to ryanakca*), kate (unsaved Doc), Amarok, umm.... Fx
[01:12] <kdefreak> If I did, I don't mind restarting X
[01:14] <morvok> does it have a pid from ps -ax?
[01:14] <kdefreak> morvok: If I knew what process to grep for...
[01:14] <morvok> I suppose you can't do that eg?
[01:14] <kdefreak> VT1, if it lets me switch over to it...
[01:16] <kdefreak> refuses to let me switch to a vt
[01:16] <kdefreak> unless it's in kubuntu-desktop...
[01:17] <morvok> kdefreak: see if crtl+alt+del kills it... should bring up the shutdown screen.
[01:19] <kdefreak> morvok: nope
[01:21] <morvok> hrmm.
[01:22] <epimeth> jhutchins, you still around?
[01:28] <craftycorner> my trash isn't deleting
[01:28] <craftycorner> it goes to a shared file, and keeps recycling to a shared file.  how do i get this crap off the hard disk?
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> craftycorner, try deleting it with sudo
[01:30] <craftycorner> gimmie the command
[01:31] <craftycorner> what is the sudo command 4 delete file
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: "sudo rm file"
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: do you know what sudo does?
[01:31] <craftycorner> enters you into root
[01:32] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: yes, root can do anything, like delete a pesky file
[01:33] <Soul^Shadow> root has limits :P
[01:33] <lovloss> why does kubuntu think my hard drive is full? o.o
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: like..?
[01:33] <Soul^Shadow> u need chmod +x & chmod 777 to  fully delete some files/folders made
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: open konsole and run "df -h"
[01:34] <lovloss> it says 100% used
[01:34] <lovloss> thats impossible
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: have you cleared your trash recently
[01:34] <craftycorner> i've the same damned prob
[01:34] <Soul^Shadow> i had folder for java on dsktop had to 777 it to delete it even as root
[01:34] <craftycorner> what is the sudo command 4 delete
[01:34] <lontra> is there an image manipulation program for kde like gimp?  is krita analogous to gimp?
[01:34] <craftycorner> sudo what
[01:35] <lovloss> bonbonthejon: Yes, i have.
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: "sudo rm file" or "sudo rm -r folder"
[01:35] <Soul^Shadow> i dunno i did a sudo of kded my desktop :P
[01:35] <lovloss> bonbonthejon: There should be like 20 gigs left
[01:35] <morvok> be very carefull with the -f option!
[01:36] <Soul^Shadow> yeah it can -f up ur pc :P
[01:36] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: do you use bittorrent, I had the problem bittorrent allots the full amount of space it needs
[01:36] <craftycorner> rm: cannot remove `folder': No such file or directory
[01:36] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: change folder to the name of the folder
[01:36] <Soul^Shadow> look for caps
[01:36] <om3ga> what a day
[01:36] <lovloss> bonbonthejon: No, i dont . in fact, the sum of all my file's sizes does not equal 100%
[01:37] <craftycorner> not helping
[01:38] <Soul^Shadow> craftycorner: check dir for cap letters in it
[01:38] <Soul^Shadow> damn gotta go, l8tr all
[01:38] <craftycorner> i put it on my desktop, it's not going anywhere damn it
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: I dont know what to say, maybe run fsck to check the file system
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> lontra: you can gimp in kde
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> morvok: I said -r and not -f
[01:38] <morvok> sudo rm -rf /blah/blah/blah
[01:38] <morvok> becareful!
[01:38] <Soul^Shadow> desktop is spelled Desktop :P I ad same prob before LOL
[01:38] <tarelerulz> Is there a way  to install ubuntu to usb hard drive?
[01:39] <Soul^Shadow> yes
[01:39] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: you can use tab to autocomplete the name
[01:39] <craftycorner> the're s folders in it.
[01:39] <lovloss> oh my god
[01:40] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: use -r to recursively delete
[01:40] <lovloss> why is there a nameless .txt file in my home directory taking up 37 gigs?
[01:40] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: that might be a problem
[01:40] <hitmanWilly_> lovloss, open it up and see what it is
[01:40] <intelikey> lovloss sounds like a bad redirrect from a script
[01:40] <lovloss> Its... a stream of numbers
[01:40] <craftycorner> gommie command
[01:41] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: it sounds messed up, you probably could delete it
[01:41] <hitmanWilly_> lovloss, its probably safe to delete then
[01:41] <lovloss> i assume so
[01:41] <lontra> bonbonthejon: i know but it is krita similar to gimp?
[01:41] <lovloss> ack i sent it to trash... wont ersase from there. should have rmed it
[01:41] <intelikey> rm your trash
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: you can do shift-delete to automatically remove it, not ove it to trash
[01:42] <lovloss> i know i forgot
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> lontra: i prefer gimp, t seems more robust, but krita is pretty good too, they are similar
[01:42] <lovloss> oh its gone
[01:42] <lovloss> yay
[01:42] <lovloss> what WAS that
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> lontra: they are both pixel based
[01:43] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what was your last comment about?
[01:43] <gugu^> cpk1: are you here?
[01:43] <craftycorner> it's not deleting
[01:44] <craftycorner> moved trash to desktop
[01:44] <craftycorner> but it won't delete from desktop by sudo
[01:44] <lovloss> wow its taking forever to delete that file
[01:44] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: do "sudo chmod 777 folder" and then try deletingit
[01:45] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what do yuou mean you moved trash to desktop
[01:45] <craftycorner> I took all the crap in the trash, put it in a folder, and put it on top of Desktop
[01:45] <gugu^> I need help to configure my LAN, linux server and linux clients. the ping from others computers to server is working but internet is not???
[01:47] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what is the problem
[01:48] <BucWheat> does the cube alt+tab interface come standard with kubuntu 6.10 ?
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> BucWheat: no, that is beryl or compiz
[01:48] <BucWheat> bonbonthejon thanks let me google that
[01:48] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i didn`t know, i configured my server, and the other computers, and if i ping server its working but internet is not, i have a dsl conection on internet
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> !beryl | BucWheat
[01:49] <ubotu> BucWheat: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> !compiz | BucWheat
[01:49] <ubotu> BucWheat: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:49] <coreymon77> im just curious
[01:49] <coreymon77> is feisty gonna be an lts?
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> coreymon77: no
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think so
[01:49] <coreymon77> when is the next one gonna be
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> probably feisty+2
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'm guessing
[01:50] <intelikey> coreymon77 normal release
[01:50] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: dhcp or static?
[01:50] <coreymon77> the one after feisty?
[01:50] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: dhcp
[01:50] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: router gives the ips?
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> coreymon77, either that or the next one
[01:50] <intelikey> coreymon77 more like the third or forth after feisty  maybe.
[01:51] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: how can i see that?
[01:51] <dwidmann> feisty+2 = lts
[01:51] <intelikey> coreymon77 don't expect lts releases more often than every two years
[01:51] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: umm, did you set up a dhcp server on the server?
[01:53] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes, but with help
[01:53] <intelikey> every body.   when dealing with normal -vs- lts releases it would be less confusing to use the numeric notation.   6.06  8.04  ...
[01:53] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, do you have a router?
[01:55] <intelikey> history Q.   was the first release of ubuntu  4.10 ?
[01:55] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: I believe so
[01:56] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes,  see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6680/, there are    /etc/network/interfaces' and  /etc/dhcpd.conf
[01:57] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: why did you not use the router's dhcp server
[01:58] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: help me to use the router's dhcp server
[01:58] <gugu^> please
[01:58] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: do you know the router's ip address and username/password
[01:59] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: routers ip adress is my ip adress?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> no it's not
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> gugu^, the ip is probably 192.168.0.1
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> it's usually 192.168.0.1
[01:59] <gugu^> mine is 192.168.27.1
[01:59] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: or 192.168.2.1
[02:00] <intelikey> ah  these stupid drilling rigs !    so noisy !    they've been drilling on this section for six months now.
[02:00] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what type of router do you have?
[02:00] <intelikey> or longer i loose track of time
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> gugu^, most routers have a setup program built in you get to through your browser, just type the ip into the address bar
[02:01] <Teknoenie> hi all
[02:01] <bonbonthejon> Teknoenie: hi
[02:01] <intelikey> Teknoenie
[02:01] <Teknoenie> any LaTeX experts out there?  And I mean the typesetting app btw ;)
[02:02] <intelikey> that's a bad joke.
[02:02] <gugu^> hitmanWilly:  I have internet on server, but i do not have on lan
[02:02] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i didnt know
[02:03] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what ip do the clients have, your file doesn't look like it specifies what ips it should give
[02:03] <gugu^> hitmanWilly: maybe that setup program is the connection with my modem
[02:03] <gugu^> 192.168.27.2 , .......... 3 , ..........4
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> gugu^, are all the lan clients set up for dhcp?
[02:04] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 tells you how to set up DHCP
[02:04] <gugu^> hitmanWilly: yes maybe, i didn`t konow how to configure my clients, but the ping from them to 192.168.27.1 is working
[02:05] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok, thx
[02:06] <intelikey> i went and looked at computers yesterday.   looked at about 50 different lappies and half that many deskjobs,   every one of them came is windows pre-installed.   i didn't find one box without it, in three different stores...      what is the world comming to ?
[02:06] <Alarm> hello. how can i add a top bar like this one here: http://www.adslgr.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15265&d=1172520528
[02:07] <intelikey> s/is windows/with windows/
[02:07] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: dell is supposedly starting to sell no-os systems
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> maybe
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> if they feel like it
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> plus HP has a few empty OS ones
[02:07] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: that page requires a user accound, and its in greek
[02:07] <Alarm> ops sorry
[02:08] <intelikey> well i used to like dell hardware.   but i've never liked their business practices.
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> dell == crap
[02:08] <intelikey> they build some rock solid servers.
[02:08] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  actually its the top bar that many people use on kde ,and add on it shortcuts. not the taskbar. but cant find . did add extented task bar, kas bar but non of them was
[02:08] <intelikey> 12 years ago   heh
[02:09] <surgy> hi
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> desktop side just sux, tho
[02:09] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: there is Mac OS-like menu bar, or you could just add another panel
[02:10] <intelikey> Alarm right click the pannel and select add new panel
[02:10] <Alarm> bobesponja,  no i dont mean the mac os menu bar, i mean a simple bar where i  can place some shortcuts on it for example
[02:10] <markelhas> hi ppl, i've removed the systray info from my kubuntu how can ai add it again?
[02:10] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: right click the panel and do add new panel
[02:11] <Alarm> ok did that
[02:11] <bonbonthejon> markelhas: right click the panel and add an applet
[02:11] <intelikey> Alarm then right click the new panel and add what you will
[02:11] <Alarm> the point is that it takes the options as the main (bottom) panel
[02:11] <markelhas> bonbonthejon: humm can't find the systray there
[02:11] <Alarm> for example uses the same transparency
[02:12] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: can you find another picture of what you want
[02:12] <intelikey> Alarm yes it defaults to the same options.    if you want you can run gnome-panel inside of kde
[02:12] <Alarm> is there any way i can use individual settings for each pannel ? like difference transparency . size and so on ?
[02:12] <intelikey> or even another panel  like blackbox's panel
[02:13] <Alarm> i see. okie thank you very much. i guess i will have to try on my own from now on
[02:13] <markelhas> bonbonthejon: ok find it :P thnks
[02:13] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: I think there is a dropdown box to change the panels, but itis hiddne by default, there is a little trick to show it
[02:13] <SpAwN> !iso
[02:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[02:13] <Alarm> okie, thank you a lot
[02:14] <intelikey> Alarm maybe you didn't catch what i was saying.  you can have different panal applications running inside the same desktop.   that will give them totally independant settings.
[02:14] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: you can also try kxdock
[02:15] <Alarm> intelikey,  the point is i have to find how to do that dude
[02:15] <Alarm> what i want actually is the upper bar to be transparent , and the bottom one not. now how i will do that, i guess thats something i will have to google :)
[02:16] <intelikey> Alarm like i said    install and run.     apt-get install gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-panel-dbg  ;gnome-panel
[02:16] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: you can edit the kde panels independently, let me find the trick
[02:17] <Alarm> ok, 2 different options. its nice to be able to choose :)
[02:17] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: or try kxdocker, looks like OSX
[02:17] <intelikey> Alarm bonbonthejon says he's done that.   i haven't done that.   i have used different panel apps.  that lets you have one setup one way and another another way.
[02:18] <Alarm> got what u mean
[02:18] <Alarm> i will check on google both kxdocker and gnome-panel
[02:18] <Alarm> thank you a lot
[02:19] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: if you add another kicker panel, you can edit them seperately, you just need to do "touch ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc"
[02:19] <intelikey> one with auto hide and transparent one locked in place and always on top with background image...   that sort of thing.     i have done that.     so if you fail with configuring kicker  you can try that too.  ^   but keeping it all kde may be preferable to you.
[02:20] <Alarm> ok. i will save that, at the moment i am looking at kxdock
[02:20] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: their is telling how to set up ssh, not dhcp
[02:20] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: disable dhcp on the server, then try to to get a new address from the client
[02:21] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: does the server have 2 NICs or just one?
[02:21] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  just one last question, is it possible on kxdocker to add this bar on the top , and the main taskbar on the bottom ? its kind of upside down :)
[02:21] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: what is NIC? the server have to ethernet cards
[02:21] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: I assume
[02:21] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: what is NIC? the server have 2 ethernet cards
[02:21] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: network cards
[02:21] <intelikey> just move them where you want them.
[02:22] <intelikey> drag and drop
[02:22] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes, 2 NICs
[02:22] <the_hammer> ok i got everything of sun-java6 installed and a ton of flash stuff and other java stuff and still cant play movie trailers
[02:22] <the_hammer> what all do i need?
[02:22] <Alarm> unfortunatelly on every snapshot its placed the main on the top and the ext. bar on the bottom.
[02:22] <Alarm> ok i will try them
[02:22] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, one goes to the dsl the other goes to the router, I assume?
[02:23] <gugu^> yes, eth0 to dsl, and eth1 to router
[02:23] <bonbonthejon> ok, and did you configure the router at all
[02:23] <intelikey> it you have a short screen monitor putting the panels on the sides makes sense.
[02:24] <the_hammer> E: j2sdk1.4-doc: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:24] <the_hammer> i get that alot to
[02:24] <the_hammer> anyone else?
[02:24] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  installed. how can i find it now ? should i restart X , is there placed any option somewhere?
[02:24] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: try reconfigureing the package
[02:24] <the_hammer> how
[02:24] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: i havent played with kxdocer, so I dont know
[02:24] <Alarm> okie.
[02:25] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: i think "sudo dpkg-reconfigure package"
[02:26] <intelikey> i also looked at a lot of shord screen monitors/displays yesterday.  i personally don't see any advantage in having a short screen.
[02:26] <intelikey> s/shord/short/
[02:26] <SolidSource> anyone know where to change the text color of the task bar?
[02:26] <intelikey> SolidSource kcontrol
[02:28] <SolidSource> nvm
[02:29] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ??
[02:29] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  just for info, the touch ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc" doesnt really work...
[02:29] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: maybe yes, it works last week(LAN) , but i have removed the eth1, an now i put it back and its not working
[02:29] <Alarm> but thanks for searching for me
[02:30] <intelikey> the_hammer sudo dpkg --configure -a || sudo apt-get install -f
[02:30] <surgy> hi intelikey
[02:30] <intelikey> surgy
[02:31] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: does eth1 have an ip
[02:31] <intelikey> "~/.kde/share/config/kicker*" Alarm would be where kde stores all your personal settings concerning the panel.
[02:31] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes, 192.168.27.1
[02:32] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: that touch command is the suggested way to get settings to allow editing more than one panel
[02:32] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: and eth1 can ping client thru the router, and the client can ping eth1?
[02:33] <intelikey> bonbonthejon making a blank runtime configuration file alone probably wont do it.  adding the right information to it would.     but then again with kde one never knows.
[02:33] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: only client can ping eth1,
[02:33] <the_hammer> dpkg: error processing j2sdk1.4-doc (--configure):
[02:34] <the_hammer> goes on saying i have to go grab a file
[02:34] <the_hammer> from the site
[02:34] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: did you set up dns?
[02:34] <the_hammer> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[02:34] <the_hammer> J2SDK documentation.
[02:35] <the_hammer> stupid to have sun-java6 in the synaptic
[02:35] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ops, sorry now i have cheked, and eth1 can ping client, and the client can ping eth1
[02:35] <the_hammer> considering its not the full and/or correct files
[02:35] <the_hammer> should have someone remove them
[02:35] <intelikey> the_hammer final word on the dpkg command ?   and did the apt-get command run ?
[02:35] <the_hammer> save others here alot of problems
[02:35] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: did you setup dns?
[02:36] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: where on the server or on client
[02:36] <the_hammer> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[02:36] <the_hammer> Please visit
[02:36] <the_hammer>     http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
[02:36] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: bind9 on the server?
[02:36] <intelikey> sounds simple enough the_hammer
[02:36] <crystufer2000> Okay, so my second monitor is useless in linux....?
[02:37] <intelikey> crystufer2000 why's that ?
[02:37] <intelikey> !dualhead
[02:37] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:37] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: waht is bind9? and no i didn`t set up dnd
[02:37] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: waht is bind9? and no i didn`t set up dns
[02:38] <intelikey> !Xinerama
[02:38] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:38] <shriphani> a few questions
[02:38] <crystufer2000> intelikey: I get just a bunch of garbage if I enable it.
[02:38] <shriphani> does amarok support the 80gb ipod ?
[02:38] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: run "netstat -rn" on the clients to see if they have a gateway
[02:38] <intelikey> crystufer2000 been to those two pages ?   ^
[02:39] <crystufer2000> I'm looking at them now.
[02:39] <the_hammer> jdk-6-linux-i586.bin have this now and not sure what to do with it
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> the_hammer, run it as sudo
[02:40] <the_hammer> i did
[02:40] <rfschmid> Does anyone here use BasKet?
[02:40] <the_hammer> unknown bash
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> whoa
[02:40] <the_hammer> hammer@LAPPY:~$ sudo ./jdk-6-linux-i586.bin
[02:40] <the_hammer> sudo: ./jdk-6-linux-i586.bin: command not found
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: do "sudo chmod +x jdk..."
[02:41] <busfahrer> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and everytime I click the update Icon or want to run "add/remove programs" I get "su returned an error". How can this be on a fresh, vanilla install?
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: then run it
[02:41] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: there is something interesting, one minute and i give you a pasebin
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, run su in a terminal and patebin the output
[02:42] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: su works fine.
[02:43] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, do you have a root password set?
[02:43] <intelikey> if su    without a username works you are not on a default ubuntu system.
[02:43] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: I think it works now, let me relog and check again :-) (thanks so far)
[02:44] <intelikey> if su    works he has a root password.
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah...duh
[02:44] <intelikey> or God forbid, a passwordless root login.
[02:45] <intelikey> which is quite possable.
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> ahhh! thats a scary thought
[02:45] <intelikey> and extreemly windowsish.
[02:46] <intelikey> all it takes is sudo passwd -d root       any you have enabled passwordless root login.
[02:46] <busfahrer> Nope, doesnt work yet
[02:46] <busfahrer> still get su returned an error
[02:46] <busfahrer> I did set a root password.
[02:46] <Alarm> how can i find on which repo is a specific package ? i found a package that i want to install but seems that the gr.ubuntu server doesnt respont. and want to change the repo
[02:47] <intelikey> but equally true  sudo passwd -l root    will stop such tom-foolery
[02:47] <badpenguin4543> i am using an nVidia Corporation NV11GL [Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go]  (rev b2) video adapter in kubuntu 6.10, and have installed the driver 'nvidia-glx-legacy', however i have no 3D acceleration at all. for example, no openGL screensavers work. would anyone have a suggestion?
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, does it error out before or after it asks for the password?
[02:48] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: before. but the behaviour seems to vary, I have been asked for a password before, and once I succeeded in getting into the program.
[02:48] <intelikey> badpenguin4543 only thing i could do is sujest revisiting the wiki on howto setup nvidia   !ati
[02:48] <intelikey> !ati | badpenguin4543
[02:48] <ubotu> badpenguin4543: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <badpenguin4543> ty intelikey
[02:48] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7734/
[02:48] <the_hammer> this si stup0id
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, try reinstalling kdesu from the cmd line
[02:48] <superlinux> hello i crashed adept thrying to install wnware the command  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  dosen't fix it how can i solve?
[02:49] <Sanne> Alarm: you can search on packages.ubuntu.com for packages, it tells you the repository it is in
[02:49] <Alarm> ok found it. thanks
[02:49] <the_hammer> i manually downloaded and installed then ran update -- upgrade and still back to original error
[02:49] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: the thing that confuses me is the fact that this is a "default" install. How can something this basic be messed up?
[02:50] <superlinux> hello i crashed adept thrying to install wnware the command  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  dosen't fix it how can i solve?
[02:50] <superlinux> !wnware
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, did you download the install cd or get one shipped?
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wnware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: download
[02:50] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: is that the server's?
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, could be a corrupted medium
[02:50] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: no client`s
[02:50] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: true, I will check the install CD
[02:51] <superlinux> any one able to help me hre?
[02:51] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: it has a self-checking function right?
[02:51] <intelikey> busfahrer is this a kdesu error you are having ?
[02:51] <busfahrer> intelikey:  yes
[02:51] <jhutchins> busfahrer: Not really, the packages are supposed to.  You could have run into some hardware conflict or problem.
[02:51] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: do ifconfig on the client and tell me the ip address
[02:51] <intelikey> busfahrer in a konsole do     sudo echo yes
[02:51] <jhutchins> busfahrer: so we know adept isn't working, what IS happening?
[02:51] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so no more ideas?
[02:52] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Nope.
[02:52] <busfahrer> aha!
[02:52] <busfahrer> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 27 03:25:43 2007
[02:52] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: and this is on server http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7735/
[02:52] <jhutchins> coreymon77: From here on out I'd just be transcribing google hits for you.
[02:52] <Alarm> btw, would be any difference if i would add: deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted  and deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted ? can i add both in the repo file. somehow i get this error: Err http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe kooldock 0.3-1ubuntu2
[02:52] <Alarm>   Cannot initiate the connection to gr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:648:2000:de::211). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:648:2000:de::211 80] 
[02:52] <Sanne> the_hammer: there's sun-java6-jdk in edgy-backports (in case you want to install that, if I read correctly)
[02:52] <busfahrer> I had to switch my time back one hour since there was no option for "Bios clock is set to local time"
[02:52] <busfahrer> (is there?)
[02:52] <intelikey> there you go   clock problem    wait an hour and all should work again.
[02:52] <coreymon77> jhutchins: im pretty much up the creek now arent i?
[02:52] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, yeah there is actually
[02:53] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: clients ip is 192.168.27.2
[02:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Well, like I said, we know it works for most people.
[02:53] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: Where? didnt find it in kcontrl
[02:53] <intelikey> and there is an option for the "tzconfig"
[02:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Did lspci show anything but a plain vanilla soundblaster?
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, i did it on the install
[02:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Ensonic or anything?
[02:53] <coreymon77> jhutchins: funny, ive heard otherwise that this card is actually notoriously difficult to get working
[02:53] <superlinux> i crashed adept installign wmware and the fix command dosen't work can u solve me as i get this message from adept now that im locked couse the install is still running
[02:53] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: well is there a config file that i can adjust
[02:53] <Sanne> Alarm: try to put both in. If it won't work, there should be an error that tells you. Then you could comment out the line that doesn't work temporarily and use the other one.
[02:54] <Alarm> okie
[02:54] <coreymon77> Creative Labs Ectiva EV1938
[02:54] <pingveno> I'm trying to get Electric Sheep running as the KDE screen saver in fullscreen, but it only runs in a smaller window right now
[02:54] <jhutchins> superlinux: Is there still an open adept window?
[02:54] <superlinux> no
[02:54] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Go ye forth and google.
[02:54] <superlinux> but as install crushed i must kill it 1
[02:54] <cpk1> !aptfix | superlinux
[02:54] <ubotu> superlinux: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:54] <intelikey> busfahrer crazy thing is, the default kde setting is to expect the hardware clock to be set to local time.   heh
[02:54] <pingveno> For that matter, just the electricsheep command does a small screen
[02:54] <superlinux> that command dosen't work
[02:54] <coreymon77> funny enough though
[02:54] <superlinux>  that's why im asking
[02:54] <cpk1> how doesnt it work?
[02:55] <jhutchins> superlinux: ps ax should give you a process number which you can sudo kill -hup <number>
[02:55] <busfahrer> intelikey: that confuses me :-p
[02:55] <superlinux> can u make me do killall?
[02:55] <cpk1> no
[02:55] <mrbrdo> hey is it possible to set an image or a color for hover of taskbar buttons (when you mouseover over the window taskbar buttons - it's always just grey)
[02:55] <n8k99> intelikey you aren't dual booting on that machine are you?
[02:55] <intelikey> busfahrer i said "kde"'s default.   not "ubuntu's" default.
[02:55] <jhutchins> superlinux: Sure, sudo killall works if you know the process name.
[02:55] <superlinux> i can't belive how adpet is buggy btw
[02:55] <coreymon77> jhutchins: when i open up kmix, it says in the bottom right corner "Esoniq AudioPCI"
[02:55] <cpk1> how doesnt sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock work superlinux?
[02:55] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ServerGuide#Dhcpd tells how to setup dhcpd and bind
[02:55] <superlinux> process is wmware
[02:55] <jhutchins> superlinux: Believe it or not, it's one of the least buggy GUI's.
[02:55] <intelikey> n8k99 yeah  but i'm not having clock trubble.
[02:55] <busfahrer> i think i found the config file. brb
[02:56] <jhutchins> superlinux: That's why most of us use the CLI sooner or later.
[02:56] <pingveno> adept still is very useful
[02:56] <superlinux> 1 sec i paste u it cpkl
[02:56] <jhutchins> superlinux: It's just one less thing to load the system, one less to go wrong.
[02:56] <pingveno> especially for filtering & tags
[02:56] <mrbrdo> hey is it possible to set an image or a color for hover of taskbar buttons (when you mouseover over the window taskbar buttons - it's always just grey)
[02:56] <n8k99> intelikey: ok what trubble are you having?
[02:56] <n8k99> ^_^
[02:57] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Hm.  could be it's using an ensoniq driver instead of the SB, I dunno.
[02:57] <superlinux> !fix adept
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I remember I had a lot of trouble with ensoniqs.
[02:57] <intelikey> trying to answer all these stinking questions at one time, n8k99    ;/
[02:57] <coreymon77> jhutchins: funny, ive heard otherwise that this card is actually notoriously difficult to get working
[02:57] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix | superlinux
[02:57] <ubotu> superlinux: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:57] <superlinux> when i do that tells me it's locked
[02:57] <pingveno> How would I turn off the system bell for the console (as in, Ctrl-Alt-F1)? It's driving my roommates nuts.
[02:57] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: or http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html has a much easier web-based way to set stuff up
[02:58] <superlinux> that's why im here
[02:58] <superlinux> and some other process has it
[02:58] <coreymon77> jhutchins: how can we find ouy if its doing that or not
[02:58] <bonbonthejon> pingveno: there is a configureation option
[02:58] <superlinux> that's the crashed install of wmware jhu
[02:58] <intelikey> until rashed on you and your database is locked, try
[02:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: using the esoniq driver instead of the creative one
[02:59] <superlinux> is snaypetic so buggy as adept?
[02:59] <jhutchins> superlinux: Ok, do it manually.  sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock then killall processes shown in ps, then delete the lock file (rm), and then try again.
[02:59] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok, thx, i`ll try
[02:59] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, settings -> system bell
[02:59] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Well, lsmod shows which modules are loaded, but without googling the card model we don't know what driver it _should_ be using.
[02:59] <intelikey>           this in konsole: A sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;do false ;done ;sudo dpkg --configure -a       <<< use more force.
[03:00] <superlinux> Cannot stat processes: No such file or directory
[03:00] <superlinux> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  21433
[03:00] <intelikey> what.....
[03:00] <the_hammer> http://pastebin.ca/373882
[03:00] <bordy> Superlinux: I prefer synaptic over adept any day. I have no issues with it myself
[03:00] <intelikey> damn autocompletion
[03:00] <the_hammer> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03:00] <jhutchins> superlinux: there we are, kill -hup 21433; ps ax
[03:00] <the_hammer> i manually d/l and installed it and same error
[03:00] <intelikey> until sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;do false ;done ;sudo dpkg --configure -a       <<< use more force.
[03:00] <the_hammer> wtf
[03:00] <pingveno> hitmanWilly: yeah, I figured it out for X11/KDE
[03:00] <jhutchins> Oops, ps ax | grep 21433, tell us.
[03:01] <superlinux> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:01] <pingveno> I'm just having trouble with getting it for the console
[03:01] <intelikey> or maybe even change -vki  to just  -k
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, you mean for the actual console as in text only?
[03:01] <pingveno> yeah
[03:02] <hitmanWilly> that im not sure about
[03:02] <pingveno> not that I use it that much, but it would still be nice not to kill everyone in the room
[03:02] <pingveno> hmmm
[03:02] <hitmanWilly> disable pc speaker in alsamixer?
[03:02] <superlinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7736/ there jhu
[03:02] <intelikey> pingveno console question ?
[03:02] <superlinux> this is what come out
[03:02] <pingveno> ah, well, that might be a bit of overload ;-)
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> oh well
[03:03] <superlinux> what i do now?
[03:03] <pingveno> intelikey:yeah
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, probably in the bash config somewhere
[03:04] <crystufer2000> does having a binary graphics driver mean that I can't use the nvidia 3d accelerated graphics driver I allready have?
[03:04] <intelikey> pingveno setterm -bfreq 0
[03:04] <pingveno> oh, I think I found a way
[03:04] <jhutchins> the_hammer: So did you download the java zip, chown it, and put it in /tmp?
[03:05] <intelikey> or 1
[03:05] <pingveno> excellent!
[03:05] <crystufer2000_> Yo. Is a binary graphics driver different from my accelerated driver?
[03:05] <pingveno> it works
[03:05] <pingveno> thank you
[03:05] <crystufer2000_> for graphics*
[03:05] <the_hammer> i downloaded  it to the Desktop and extracted it and its empty
[03:05] <superlinux> still there jhutchins ?
[03:05] <cpk1> intelikey: that stay set after a reboot?
[03:05] <the_hammer> yet the zip is 32.8mb?
[03:06] <intelikey> pingveno no.  it's shell/session only.    so you can add it to a users .bash_profile  or .bashrc  or .profile
[03:06] <the_hammer> so copy it to tmp
[03:06] <jhutchins> superlinux: Ok, sudo kill -9 21433 21442 21448 21450
[03:06] <intelikey> pingveno shouldn't affect other users.
[03:06] <chavo> pingveno, just put - set bell-style none, in /etc/inputrc
[03:06] <jhutchins> the_hammer:
[03:06] <jhutchins> the_hammer: ?
[03:07] <jhutchins> the_hammer: So did you download the java zip, chown it, and put it in /tmp?
[03:07] <intelikey> chavo that is system wide.   if that's what he wants.
[03:07] <the_hammer> i mnaually d/l and moved it to /tmp from Desktop
[03:07] <jhutchins> the_hammer: who owns it?
[03:07] <the_hammer> using the super user
[03:07] <superlinux> jhutchins,  u advise me more simple distro as im a begginer and nead all gui
[03:08] <jhutchins> superlinux: Windows.
[03:08] <superlinux> so u saying i can't use linux?
[03:08] <jhutchins> superlinux: Or actually Mac, which is BSD with top-dressing.
[03:08] <pingveno> okay, I'm having a bit of fun switching between X11 and terminal
[03:08] <the_hammer> ok ya know what super user is?
[03:08] <superlinux> well i just nead a gui kde distro
[03:08] <superlinux> couse im not very familiar whit shell
[03:08] <jhutchins> superlinux: The thing about linux is that you have to learn a LOT of stuff right at the beginning, and it's NEVER going to be all GUI.
[03:08] <intelikey> pingveno did you you did catch all that info thrown at you at one time ?
[03:09] <the_hammer> i moved j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip from Desktop into /tmp
[03:09] <jhutchins> superlinux: The command line is one of the things that makes it so powerful.
[03:09] <cpk1> pingveno: you have some video files on hand? try mplayer -vo caca -quiet somevideo while you are in terminal =P
[03:09] <jhutchins> superlinux: You might try linspire.
[03:09] <jhutchins> superlinux: See, the thing about all GUI systems is that they still have these problems, there's just no way to fix them.
[03:09] <superlinux> zen@zen-desktop:~$ sudo kill -9 21433 21442 21448 21450
[03:09] <superlinux> zen@zen-desktop:~$
[03:09] <superlinux> did it work?
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[03:10] <chavo> oh you can use ~/.inputrc then
[03:10] <jhutchins> superlinux: ps ax, look and see if those programs are still there.
i moved j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip from Desktop into /tmp
[03:10] <jhutchins> the_hammer: ls -l /tmp, see who owns it.
[03:10] <intelikey> chavo yes that would be user specific.   will that affect X ?
[03:10] <jhutchins> the_hammer: should be root:root
[03:10] <chavo> no
[03:10] <intelikey> ok.
[03:11] <intelikey> i wasn't sure is the reason i didn't go there.
[03:11] <cpk1> the system bell going off when you cant tab complete is the most annoying idea ever
[03:11] <chavo> you need, xset b off for that
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root   34397778 2007-02-26 20:03 j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip
[03:11] <cpk1> whoever thought to implement needs to be taken out back and shot
[03:11] <superlinux> yes they are still there damn
[03:11] <jhutchins> I think I see the problem.
[03:12] <chavo> cpk1, you can turn it off, thats what this whole discussion is about
[03:12] <cpk1> O.o they lived after a kill -9?
[03:12] <superlinux> i just have to wait pclinuxos 2007 jhutchins  and things will radicaly change
[03:12] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Have another look at your error message.  They specify different files, different version numbers.
[03:12] <cpk1> chavo: I know, but who in their right mind would want it on in the first place
[03:12] <jhutchins> the_hammer: I think your installer and your zip don't match version numbers.
[03:12] <chavo> I do for 1
[03:12] <superlinux> isen't there a way to kill everything in adept couse thy still run
[03:12] <cpk1> @.@
[03:12] <intelikey> cpk1 shooting is a little harsh there    just ham sting them   ;/
[03:12] <Alarm> is there any way to add kooldock on the top instead bottom of the screen ?
[03:12] <cpk1> hehe
[03:12] <jhutchins> the_hammer: You will be happy to know that java will eventually be available under the GNU license and therefore available as a .deb.
[03:13] <the_hammer> the error i got i went to the site and got the file they said
[03:13] <intelikey> string
[03:13] <the_hammer> and put it where it said
[03:13] <jhutchins> superlinux: Most reliable is to use ps ax to find the PID and kill that.
[03:13] <cpk1> is there a special reason the_hammer doesnt want to get java from the repos?
[03:13] <the_hammer> but what should i do to see if the error is gone apt-get update,upgrade?
[03:13] <superlinux> im going crazy again
[03:13] <jhutchins> cpk1: Dunno, maybe he needs that particular sun java.
[03:13] <intelikey> version 6 ?
[03:13] <the_hammer> i did that
[03:13] <the_hammer> and thats what caused all this
[03:13] <superlinux> damn me and when i installed kubuntu
[03:14] <superlinux> i really hate deb distros
[03:14] <the_hammer> i used synaptic to get sun-java6
[03:14] <chavo> Alarm, run kooldock -o to get the configuration window. not sure if you can put it on top tho
[03:14] <jhutchins> the_hammer: If you install something that's _not_ a .deb, apt knows nothing about it, and will ignore it when you ask for updates.
[03:14] <the_hammer> and when it installed nothing but problems
[03:14] <intelikey> superlinux is it a binary package hatred or just the debian package format ?
[03:14] <superlinux> future is rpm and click n'
[03:14] <Alarm> chavo,  i am running configuration i dont see any otpion thats why i am asking that dude..
[03:14] <pingveno> well, off to dinner
[03:14] <superlinux> all deb distros
[03:14] <the_hammer> ok now that i have the right file what do i do now to see if its fixed?
[03:14] <pingveno> chow
[03:15] <superlinux> they suck
[03:15] <jhutchins> superlinux: The main problem here is that you're using a GUI wrapper, which died but left all the running programs behind.
[03:15] <pingveno> deb distros?
[03:15] <chavo> woah little snappy eh sorry
[03:15] <intelikey> superlinux what about rpm based ?
[03:15] <jhutchins> superlinux: If you'd been going directly from the console, if it died it would be dead.
[03:15] <superlinux> so what i have to do put snypetic?
[03:15] <superlinux> never had a problem whit yast or zen
[03:15] <superlinux> or c n'r
[03:15] <jhutchins> superlinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
what do i do nw to see if the error is fixed
[03:16] <superlinux> now linspire can give us all her repos that's great whit one click and free
[03:16] <cpk1> speaking of cnr ubuntu is also going to use cnr
[03:16] <the_hammer> now*
[03:16] <jhutchins> superlinux: yast has serious problems, you're lucky if you didn't encounter 'em.
[03:16] <intelikey> cpk1   cnr ?
[03:16] <superlinux> ok ill keep like this till pclinuxos 2007 comes out as i found my distro
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[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Well, I'd make sure I downloaded the exact files the installer specifies, and put that in /tmp.
[03:17] <superlinux> i don't feel to read get sick only to think i have to learn all that stuff i want gui click click and have fun
[03:17] <the_hammer> i did that
[03:17] <superlinux> no problems no nothing
[03:17] <the_hammer> then what do i do?
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: I may be wrong, but it looked like the version numbers didn't match.
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, click n' run, linspire's package manager
[03:17] <superlinux> my dream is to trow shell out the window
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Find the docs for the installer and figure out what they want.
[03:17] <cpk1> I think you can buy non-free stuff from it intelikey
[03:17] <the_hammer> i did that tho
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Find the support channel for the package you're installing java in order to run, and ask them
[03:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly frontend to dpkg    or new package manager ?
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, dpkg or rpm
[03:18] <jhutchins> the_hammer: sourceforge or freshmeat will probably know who the maintainers are and where their support lists are.
[03:18] <superlinux> sorry jhutchins  i got wrong night to mess whit linux thanx for help do
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, mostly dpkg tho
[03:18] <jhutchins> the_hammer: See, the problem you're having isn't with anything that's packaged by kubuntu, it's something entirely outside.
[03:18] <superlinux> problem is i got no cd's to change distro otherwise got so many distros here
[03:19] <the_hammer> ok
[03:19] <intelikey> k   so basiclly   it's gui implentation of mc's  "dive into the package"  approach....  got it.
[03:19] <jhutchins> superlinux: Yeah, once you learn this stuff the power is amazing, it's worth the time.
[03:19] <eric_> so im not sure if this is what caused it, but i did some updates about 2 days ago, which included a kernel upgrade, and i lost my internet
[03:19] <eric_> did anyone else have this problem?
[03:19] <superlinux> i got upset now couse i messed up os that's why im speaking like this
[03:19] <jhutchins> superlinux: Actually, I recommend that people continue to dual-boot so that they can drop back to what they're familiar with and get work done.
[03:20] <superlinux> so can u give me a way to fix whit out going crazy jhutchins
[03:20] <superlinux> your right
[03:20] <jhutchins> superlinux: Remind me what the root problem is, I'm juggling too many threads.
[03:20] <superlinux> but it's my fault that i want to do hard things like emulate distros on wmware when i can barealy do sudo root
[03:20] <cpk1> superlinux: the simplest way would be to reboot then all the adept processes will be killed, otherwise kill the appropiate PID's
[03:20] <superlinux> i did reboot
[03:21] <superlinux> i learned not to trust adept anymore do
[03:21] <intelikey> superlinux if you are new to linux.  don't think that 10,000 years windows expearance has tought you anything usefull about your computer.  you like any other new linux user are having to start at the basics and learn the whole thing for 'scratch'
[03:21] <superlinux> i know
[03:21] <superlinux> this the lesson for wanting to do hard things like emuluate and install isos whit wmware
[03:22] <superlinux> im quite good whit windows inteal here i suck do
[03:22] <jhutchins> superlinux: Do you maybe mean VMWare?
[03:22] <superlinux> inteal*
[03:22] <superlinux> yes
[03:22] <jarn_> Is there an MP3 encoder that will convert FLAC tags to ID3 tags?
[03:22] <superlinux> that crashed up my adept
[03:22] <jhutchins> superlinux: Have you read the DOS-Windows-Linux hwoto?
[03:22] <superlinux> damn him
[03:22] <superlinux> now
[03:22] <superlinux> no*
[03:23] <intelikey> !flac
[03:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <jhutchins> Sorry, guys, I gotta run.
[03:23] <superlinux> but im doing fine till i do basics intel problems start when i want to act as power user im not
[03:23] <superlinux> doing things like this for example
[03:23] <illinux> \o
[03:23] <illinux> !nvidia
[03:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <cpk1> jarn_: if you did a good job of naming the songs then musicbrainz picard shouldnt have trouble tagging them
[03:23] <superlinux> for the rest im able to do everything i nead till now even update kde
[03:24] <jarn_> cpk1: I didn't name them based on their data. I tagged them based on their data.
[03:24] <superlinux> should i reinstall then jhutchins  kubuntu?
[03:24] <superlinux> usualy when adept crashed it fixed strange this time dosen't
[03:25] <intelikey> superlinux congrats on graduating the first parts of linux knowledge.    quick studies make more noise when the break things    :)
[03:26] <Leesus> christ someone help me
[03:26] <superlinux> eheh i was nearly there to run a entire dvd whit VMware till the crash
[03:26] <superlinux> i got 14 distros in there
[03:26] <neptunepink> help.... I have a laptop, and it is continously scrolling down!
[03:27] <superlinux> what do i have to look for whit ps ax VMware intel?
[03:27] <Leesus> would anyone know why my user password doesnt work for my su password?
[03:27] <intelikey> superlinux may i sujest.    drop into a console and run this     sudo killall5      and sudo dpkg --configure -a       if it works   sudo init 3     else    sudo init 6
[03:27] <neptunepink> Like, button mb5 up the wazoo, or something
[03:27] <n8k99> neptunepink:  is your down arrow key depressed
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> Lees
[03:27] <Leesus> yes
[03:27] <superlinux> thanx ill try
[03:28] <intelikey> Leesus     not su.    sudo
[03:28] <hitmanWilly> Leesus, sorry, premature enter
[03:28] <neptunepink> well, that might have been it.... :/ but it stopped, anyways
[03:28] <intelikey> !sudo | Leesus
[03:28] <ubotu> Leesus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:28] <Leesus> alls I know, is I want to go to add/remove programs... and enter my user password and for it to work
[03:28] <Leesus> it does not
[03:29] <intelikey> Leesus run this test in a konsole.    sudo echo yes
[03:29] <illinux> on cloned system I have nvidia-glx installed just as in orig. system , now I want to use nvidia-glx and beryl
[03:29] <illinux> how do I kill x temporarily from ctrl-alt-f1
[03:29] <Leesus> sudo echo yes prompts a password in terminal
[03:29] <eric_> i get this error when booting
[03:29] <eric_> cannot enable RNG, aborting
[03:29] <intelikey> Leesus yes enter your password
[03:30] <Leesus> I cant enter it
[03:30] <intelikey> Leesus why not ?
[03:30] <Leesus> it stays blank... with the only key on my keyboard working being enter after I get to the password prompt
[03:30] <Leesus> its not a usb device
[03:30] <Jucato> Leesus: that's how you enter passwords in the command line on Linux
[03:30] <intelikey> yes it stays blank as far as reporting to the screen
[03:30] <the_hammer> ok i got the sunjava 6 installed correctly
[03:30] <Jucato> Leesus: you don't get feedback to what you're typing
[03:30] <sudoroot> that command frooze the os intel and had to reboot
[03:30] <the_hammer> finally!
[03:31] <sudoroot> killall5
[03:31] <the_hammer> but still unable to play movie trailers
[03:31] <Leesus> tried entering the password regardles... with no aterisks output to the screen... and it still fials
[03:31] <Leesus> fails*
[03:31] <Leesus> "sorry, try again"
[03:31] <intelikey> sudoroot it should have killed everything except the login console
[03:31] <Jucato> Leesus: yes, there wlll be no asterisks when you type the password
[03:31] <sudoroot> perfect i hope
[03:32] <sudoroot> o dp ps ax aging?
[03:32] <Leesus> regardless... output(aterisks) or not... it doesnt work when I input my password
[03:32] <sudoroot> again*
[03:32] <intelikey> sudoroot see if you can --configure now
[03:32] <Leesus> are you referring to me intelikey?
[03:33] <intelikey> Leesus no.;
[03:33] <sudoroot> ok what command i must do now?
[03:33] <sudoroot> got lost here sorry
[03:33] <Leesus> man im so confused
[03:33] <sudoroot> !adept
[03:33] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:33] <intelikey> sudoroot   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:33] <sudoroot> thanx
[03:33] <intelikey> Leesus type    groups
[03:34] <intelikey> Leesus are you in    admin   ?
[03:34] <sudoroot> Configuro libssl0.9.7 (0.9.7k-3) ...
[03:34] <sudoroot> Configuro vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.17-11 (2.6.17.7-11.1) ...
[03:34] <sudoroot> Configuro vmware-player-kernel-modules (2.6.17.11)
[03:34] <sudoroot> said this
[03:34] <Leesus> it lists my username then adm along with others in a line
[03:34] <sudoroot> configuro is configure
[03:34] <intelikey> sudoroot ok no    E:   messages
[03:34] <intelikey> sudoroot looks fixed.
[03:35] <Leesus> it says admin again at the end of the string of users
[03:35] <sudoroot> so now i try to install from shell vmware?
[03:35] <sudoroot> eheh thanx 1000 i hate this crashes must learn to use shell
[03:35] <intelikey> sudoroot yup
[03:35] <illinux> how to test nvidia-glx
[03:36] <Leesus> intelikey how do I know if im in admin?
[03:36] <sudoroot> says it' can't find vmware
[03:36] <intelikey> Leesus groups
[03:36] <sudoroot> whit sudo apt-get install vmware
[03:36] <sudoroot> but it's in adept so impossible
[03:37] <illinux> sudoroot:  learn shell asap
[03:37] <intelikey> sudoroot  apt-cache search vmware
[03:37] <Leesus> intelikey what do I do after I input groups in terminal
[03:37] <intelikey> look for admin in what it reports.
[03:37] <intelikey> Leesus ^
[03:37] <Leesus> its at the end of the line
[03:37] <Leesus> what about it?
[03:38] <intelikey> Leesus ok you are in the admin group
[03:38] <illinux> sudoroot: you want man:bash
[03:38] <Leesus> ok
[03:38] <illinux> man:bash in konqueror
[03:38] <intelikey> Leesus lets look into the sudoers file.    grep admin /etc/sudoers
[03:38] <sudoroot> it's vmware-player so will be sudo apt-get install vmware-player :D
[03:38] <Leesus> intelikey permission denied
[03:39] <sudoroot> if im not wrong
[03:39] <Leesus> wont let me look
[03:39] <intelikey> Leesus ok.  one other thing.    can you reset your password.    passwd
[03:40] <intelikey> Leesus in the konsole type.  passwd
[03:40] <Leesus> yeah, It lets me do that
[03:40] <intelikey> sudo echo yes
[03:40] <intelikey> enter the new password
[03:40] <sudoroot> u are right if u learn the commands it' s easy intel im just scared to learn
[03:41] <sudoroot> couse i fear it's to much stuff
[03:41] <intelikey> sudoroot given 6 months you'll use the cli more than the pointy clicky thingy
[03:41] <Leesus> why wouldnt it recognize my origional password?
[03:41] <Leesus> just out of curiousity
[03:41] <sudoroot> eheh so u think i have talent for linux as people tell me just scared ?
[03:42] <intelikey> Leesus i don't know.   maybe you "typo'd"
[03:42] <Leesus> ok, so after I echoed... im logged in now?
[03:42] <Leesus> for 15 min right?
[03:42] <intelikey> most of the linux problems i have are "pebcak"
[03:42] <Sanne> sudoroot: don't be overwhelmed of the whole journey, just make small steps like you can, and you'll get there :)
[03:42] <sudoroot> yes your right
[03:43] <intelikey> Leesus i think it will remember the password for about that long yes.
[03:43] <Leesus> great... now the applications wont load
[03:43] <sudoroot> i must not do all in 1 as i usual do but step by step day by day
[03:43] <sudoroot> as i installed the vmware player now sanne what u advise me to do try the 13 dvd distros i got or give up?
[03:43] <Leesus> my applications stay in the taskbar loading, for like 30 seconds then dissapears
[03:43] <sudoroot> 14*
[03:44] <ubuntu_>  I have REDHAT+win2k+win 98 - how easy is it to replace REDHAT with Kubuntu??
[03:44] <intelikey> Leesus run it from the konsole and see why.
[03:44] <Leesus> nevermind my password must have timed out and when I re-entered it booted successfully
[03:44] <intelikey> Leesus   kdesu <appname>    and you can use the tab key to complete appnames
[03:45] <intelikey> Leesus ok
[03:45] <Leesus> just out of curiosity... what would the konsole have told me?
[03:45] <sudoroot> what u advise me intelkey to use it as i made it finaly to install vmware and try the 14 distro dvd emulating em or give up?
[03:45] <Sanne> sudoroot: wow, I don't know... so many distros. What I did was, read up on some distros before install, decide to try and get to learn one (it was Debain at that time), read everything I could find, fix my problems and learn. After some years I then switched to Ubuntu. But that's just me, of course, do as youlike, have fun.
[03:45] <intelikey> Leesus but remember that FFR if something doesn't start   running it in a konsole will make error messages visable.
[03:46] <hendaus> can anyone help me how to configure kad firewalled on amule? thanx
[03:46] <sudoroot> well i want to try the last zenwalk i got ehre sane
[03:46] <sudoroot> sanne*
[03:46] <Leesus> intelikey, I dont follow. could you explain?
[03:46] <sudoroot> that's why im making all this fuss
[03:46] <sudoroot> to install that damn vmware
[03:46] <sudoroot> haah
[03:47] <sudoroot> well ill give it a try and see if i can make it as i did 30 why not do 31
[03:47] <sudoroot> and try run this vmware :D
[03:47] <Sanne> sudoroot: then try it. Maybe you're just the adventurous type ;)
[03:47] <sudoroot> ehe yes i love to test distros
[03:47] <intelikey> Leesus   if you click and nothing comes up   you open a konsole   and   type in the command name.     if no window opens there will be reasons (99.9% of the time)  in the konsole as to why nothing opened.
[03:48] <ubuntu_>  Q:  is it possible to replace Redhat with Kubuntu in multi boot system ??
[03:48] <illinux> ubuntu_ pls chg nick
[03:48] <Sanne> sudoroot: you will just learn your own way. But don't overwhelm yourself ;)
[03:48] <Leesus> what would the command name be? I like that, very informative way of doing things. thats awsome
[03:48] <hendaus> Sanne,  can u help friend
[03:48] <sudoroot> ok thanx for advise and intel for help
[03:48] <asaup> i have a problem with a router dlink
[03:49] <asaup> i can not connect to internet. someone said to me to edit my resolve.conf
[03:49] <illinux> ubuntu_ basically bkp important things and install from scratch . I think better use alternate CD and manual repartition
[03:49] <hendaus> Sanne,  can u help me how to configure kad firewalled on amule? thanx
[03:49] <asaup> but i do not remember the ip
[03:49] <asaup> can anyone help me
[03:49] <intelikey> Leesus depends on what you are trying to run.   the package manager  is "adept"     the file manager is  "konqueror"    the irc client is "konversation"    the email client is  "kmail"  and so forth
[03:50] <ubuntu_> Basically you are saying not to touch LILO??
[03:50] <Sanne> hendaus: hmm, I never used amule. Better ask the question to the whole channel, maybe somebody knows, I don't, sorry.
[03:51] <intelikey> Leesus in most cases the menu listing will pretty much reflect the actual command name.  but not always.   and if you don't know the command and can't find it you ask in here.
[03:51] <hendaus> oK,can anyone help me guys
[03:51] <Leesus> thanks so much, youve been very helpful
[03:51] <hendaus> coz everytime i open amule and kad is off
[03:51] <intelikey> Leesus example;     Q whats the name of the system settings app in the menu ?    A. kcontrol
[03:52] <Leesus> I see
[03:52] <intelikey> clear enough Leesus ?
[03:52] <Leesus> I understand
[03:53] <intelikey> ok   later guys.  i'll be back around after rounds       (i think)
[03:53] <Leesus> is there a good resource for alternatives to the programs provided? ie: using firefox over konq...
[03:53] <Leesus> and I definitely dont like the layout of the instant messaging software
[03:54] <hendaus> please friends i want it urgent coz i am at my friends house
[03:54] <intelikey> Leesus  use your favorite package manager frontend and search for alternatives to them...    apt-cache search file manager | less
[03:55] <Leesus> package manager front end? as in the software that is bundled with the distro?
[03:55] <Newbie>  I am new to Kubuntu.. I am wondering how easy it is to replace Redhat with Kubuntu on my multi boot system
[03:55] <lotusleaf> Leesus: if you don't like something, by virtue of open source you may change it or pay someone else to if you can't code :)
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> Leesus, either adept or synaptic
[03:56] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: can you help me? what adress can i put on address ranges?
[03:56] <Leesus> I thought adept just automatically updates the distro and its containing software bundled with. Im interested in removing and adding programs... is that clearer?
[03:56] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: i guess 192.168.27.20-192.168.27.255, how ever it puts it
[03:57] <Leesus> nevermind, I figured it out
[03:57] <hendaus> is there a mIRC for linux?
[03:57] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok thx
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not that i know of
[03:57] <Newbie>  I am new to Kubuntu.. I am wondering how easy it is to replace Redhat with Kubuntu on my multi boot system..  Has anyone tried like this? Not sure how to do  LILO/GRUB conversion
[03:58] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  do u know about amule?
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not really, usually use bittorrent myself
[03:59] <Newbie>  I need your expert opinion .. I am wondering how easy it is to replace Redhat with Kubuntu on my multi boot system..  Has anyone tried like this? Not sure how to do  LILO/GRUB conversion
[03:59] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  so how can i get this help,who knows about amule?
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> Newbie, fairly easy, the installer usually autoconfigs the settings right
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> !amule | hendaus
[03:59] <ubotu> hendaus: amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> no link, huh
[04:00] <Newbie> %2C  what is the backout plan if things dont work ?????
[04:00] <Newbie>   what is the backout plan if things dont work ?????
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> Newbie, do it by hand
[04:00] <hendaus> ubotu, i have the new one,it works fine but kad doesnot work
[04:01] <the_hammer> how do i get my floppy to read,all that jazz?
[04:01] <Newbie>  hitman... could you explain lil bit more plz
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, ubotu is a bot, i just piped the output to you
[04:01] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  how can i make kad works?
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> Newbie, well, you could backup your current menu.lst and use that for reference
[04:02] <hendaus> just i need this urgent coz i am at my friends  house
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, i dont really know that much about kad, i was hoping ubotu would have a link to an FAQ or something
[04:03] <Leesus> how do I install software that isnt downloaded through adept?
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, try googling for it
[04:03] <the_hammer> anyine tell me why my floppy wonmt work
[04:04] <the_hammer> ?
[04:04] <hendaus> hitmanWilly, i try on google several times,but i want anyone knows about amule
[04:04] <the_hammer> help pls
[04:04] <the_hammer> floppy in and not working
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> the_hammer, did you mount it?
[04:05] <ghetek> how do i make all exe files automatically run in wine when i double click them?
[04:05] <the_hammer> how
[04:05] <the_hammer> i dont see nay floppy icons
[04:05] <the_hammer> any*
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> !mount | the_hammer
[04:06] <ubotu> the_hammer: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:07] <ghetek> !exe
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <ghetek> damn
[04:07] <ghetek> !wine
[04:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:07] <the_hammer> !fstab
[04:07] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:07] <ghetek> !wine doubleclick .exe?
[04:07] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[04:07] <ghetek> ubotu: no
[04:07] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[04:08] <ghetek> sigh
[04:08] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  i used before mIRC client for windows,is there any application for linux?
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not mirc, but several other good irc clients
[04:09] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  ok i need one to load some addons on  it
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, i use xchat myself
[04:09] <hendaus> me too,but i want one that has remote editor
[04:11] <slyfox> anyone got parallels working in Kubuntu ?
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not really sure
[04:12] <hendaus> ok ty
[04:12] <hendaus> also i forgot tell you if i want to install nero
[04:13] <crystufer2000> Okay, I got my resolution up to what it oughta be, and I got my second monitor working. Now I can't set the resolution on the second monitor.
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, thats probably not going to happen
[04:13] <hybridstorm> hello all
[04:13] <hybridstorm> does anyone happen to know of a ftp client with a built in editor?
[04:14] <crystufer2000> hybridstorm: What kind of editor?
[04:15] <hybridstorm> crystufer2000: html/php
[04:16] <crystufer2000> Hmm... Nope. Except maybe nvu.
[04:16] <crystufer2000> hybridstorm: Check NVU.
[04:17] <hybridstorm> crystufer2000: can I get that with apt or do I have to hunt for it?
[04:17] <crystufer2000> should be aptable
[04:17] <hybridstorm> alright, I will give it a shot
[04:17] <Jucato> you can use ftp:// in any KDE app, like Kate or Quanta
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> hybridstorm, its in the repos
[04:21] <the_hammer> how do i make a floppy auto mount and all that jazz the exact same way that a cd pops up when ya put it in ?
[04:21] <slyfox> Jucato: have you ever synced your phone with kubuntu ?
[04:22] <Jucato> slyfox: not yet. but that's my goal this week...
[04:22] <slyfox> Jucato: I think I am giving up now
[04:22] <slyfox> Jucato: maybe this will help you http://cihar.com/gammu/wammu/
[04:23] <the_hammer> default fstab says this /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 and then i edited it like mentioned at bottom of url like so /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,noauto,user,sync 0 0 piss all happened
[04:23] <slyfox> Jucato: kmobiletools only connects but does not fetch or sync my phoenbook
[04:23] <Jucato> slyfox: ah.. no help from #kmobiletools?
[04:23] <slyfox> Jucato: kande just sits there useless
[04:23] <Jucato> I'll try this week.. probably
[04:24] <the_hammer> does anyone understand what im asking?
[04:24] <Leesus> can anyone explain how I would go about installing firefox
[04:25] <slyfox> Jucato: not really, someone there told me to get the latest http://xoomer.alice.it/rockman81/kmobiletools/   But I cannot compile. I am a noob in this, and what I have been told to simply type "make install" to install     does not work
[04:25] <the_hammer> simply wanting floppy to auto mount the same way a cd does when i pop it in
[04:25] <crystufer2000> cant do it
[04:25] <crystufer2000> Until they make floppy drives that autodetect the insertion of a disc.
[04:25] <hybridstorm> the_hammer: how does the drive know you just put in a floppy?
[04:25] <slyfox> Jucato: https://zyb.com/   this may be the only choice
[04:26] <the_hammer> well ok fine i can get it to read
[04:26] <the_hammer> i just wanna access the files on my floppy
[04:26] <crystufer2000> the_hammer write a simple script to mount the drive and put it on your desktop.
[04:26] <Jucato> slyfox: what unit do you have? I'll see what I'll learn along the way...
[04:26] <the_hammer> if i knew all that i wouldnt be asking for help
[04:27] <crystufer2000> the_hammer: Or else add the floppy mounter to your kde panel.
[04:27] <Jucato> !compile | slyfox
[04:27] <ubotu> slyfox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:27] <Leesus> could someone teach me how to intall applications I download? I cant seem to follow the guides on the internet
[04:27] <the_hammer> ok how i do that?
[04:27] <Leesus> like for instance, im trying to install firefox
[04:27] <Leesus> in replacement to konqueror
[04:27] <lotusleaf> Leesus: use your Synaptic or Adept package manager
[04:27] <crystufer2000> the_hammer: right click on your panel, add applet to panel
[04:28] <Leesus> how do I do it using adept
[04:28] <slyfox> Jucato: nokia n73 Symbia version 3
[04:28] <Jucato> !adept | Leesus
[04:28] <ubotu> Leesus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:29] <Jucato> slyfox: I have a Nokia 6600... btw, I'm not really sure, but I think kmobiletools isn't the right app for syncing w/ Kontact... but I'll try to find out soon
[04:30] <the_hammer> well ok i tried to add it now cant find it
[04:31] <asaup> i have a problem with resolv.conf i try to connect to internet with dhcp
[04:31] <asaup> but its not possible
[04:31] <the_hammer> this is silly
[04:31] <the_hammer> cant even access a god dam floppy
[04:32] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: did you get everything working
[04:32] <asaup> i have a problem with resolv.conf i try to connect to internet with dhcp
[04:32] <asaup> but its not possible
[04:32] <asaup> can anyone help me plz
[04:32] <bonbonthejon> asaup: what is the problem? what happens
[04:32] <asaup> i can not connect
[04:33] <asaup> to internet with dhcp
[04:33] <crystufer2000> Aaargh!
[04:33] <crystufer2000> I can't make my second monitor show the corect resolution.
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> asaup: ethernet or wireless?
[04:33] <asaup> ethernet
[04:33] <asaup> i have a dlink modem
[04:33] <asaup> i have an adsl
[04:33] <the_hammer> iadded it to applet
[04:34] <the_hammer> click on it fuck all happens
[04:34] <the_hammer> :(
[04:34] <the_hammer> fuck it ill stick it on other machine zip it and e-mail to myself
[04:34] <hybridstorm> the_hammer: are you sure the drive works and the floppy is good?
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> asaup: have you tried getting an ip
[04:35] <asaup> how can i get an ip
[04:35] <asaup> what cmd do i have to do
[04:35] <asaup> ??
[04:36] <asaup> i tried with static ip
[04:36] <bonbonthejon> asaup: something like "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:36] <bonbonthejon> asaup: if you are using eth0
[04:36] <asaup> yes
[04:37] <crystufer2000> I can't make my xserver use the resolution I want for my second monitor.
[04:39] <hybridstorm> asaup: do you have a router between you and the modem?
[04:39] <asaup> yes
[04:39] <hybridstorm> and that is working correctly?
[04:39] <asaup> yes
[04:40] <Leesus> is there a way to go from edgy to drapper drake
[04:40] <bonbonthejon> asaup: does the router have a web interface
[04:40] <Leesus> I think edgy is too advanced for me
[04:40] <asaup> yes
[04:40] <asaup> i have access
[04:40] <asaup> to the router
[04:41] <asaup> someone before said to me to make static ip and edit resolv.conf. he gave me two ip to put after nameserver in resolve.conf and this thing resolved the problem but i do not remember the ip that he gave me
[04:41] <bonbonthejon> asaup: does it have a connection to the web, or is the problem between the computer and the router
[04:41] <asaup> no the problem is the connection to internet
[04:41] <crystufer2000> I'll be back.
[04:41] <asaup> i can connect to the router
[04:41] <hybridstorm> 209.51.128.19 & 209.51.128.20 are dns servers if you want to use them
[04:42] <bonbonthejon> asaup: so the router cant connect to the net?
[04:42] <asaup> yes
[04:42] <bonbonthejon> asaup: restart the router, see if that helps
[04:42] <asaup> can i use this
[04:42] <asaup> i restarted but no diff
[04:42] <asaup> i tried even dig
[04:42] <asaup> cmd
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> asaup: so the router has an external ip?
[04:43] <Leesus> hey asaup?
[04:43] <asaup> yes
[04:43] <Leesus> do you know how to put downloaded programs in your k menu directories after they are downloaded with adept?
[04:44] <bonbonthejon> Leesus: it should have put a link in, otherwise you can edit kmenu and add the program
[04:44] <deathnote> hi one question.. in ext2 file system , do i need to defragment my filesystem?
[04:44] <asaup> ok thanx to all of you
[04:44] <Leesus> what do you mean by putting a link in
[04:45] <deathnote> !defrag
[04:45] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[04:45] <asaup> i was missing the dns
[04:45] <asaup> :D
[04:45] <asaup> thanx
[04:45] <asaup> resolved it
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> asaup: why did you need a static ip
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> Leesus: you can edit kmenu and add an entry
[04:45] <Leesus> how so
[04:45] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: not yet
[04:45] <Leesus> I can run firefox from the run command prompt
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> Leesus: right click the k-menu, then do menu editor
[04:46] <deathnote> how do i know if i'm at ext2 or ext3 ? fdisk -l?
[04:46] <deathnote> oh
[04:46] <deathnote> mount -l say ext3
[04:46] <deathnote> so i do not need to defrag?
[04:46] <deathnote> !fsck
[04:46] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> deathnote: no, it should handle it
[04:47] <stdin> Leesus: before you do that, you may just have to update (or restart) the kmenu by logging out and back in, or restarting kicker
[04:47] <bonbonthejon> stdin: how do you restart kicker
[04:47] <deathnote> why do ntfs/fat32 need to defrag ? i mean
[04:47] <deathnote> can i mount the harddisk with ntfs/fat32 and defrag using linux?
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> deathnote: yes, linux can mount ntfs/fat32
[04:48] <stdin> bonbonthejon: Alt-F2, then put in "dcop kicker kicker restart" (without quotes)
[04:48] <stdin> Leesus: ^^
[04:48] <deathnote> bonbonthejon: it seems like i can't write to ntfs....
[04:48] <Leesus> thank you stdin, that was the solution
[04:48] <deathnote> headache!@
[04:48] <stdin> sorry bonbonthejon, that wasn't to you
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | deathnote
[04:48] <ubotu> deathnote: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:48] <deathnote> i hate ntfs!
[04:48] <stdin> Leesus: no problem :)
[04:48] <Leesus> now, do you have an idea how to install plugins for firefox like flash? it doesnt seem to be in adept
[04:48] <deathnote> !ntfs-3g
[04:48] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:48] <asaup> even the dns
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> asaup: why did you need a static address
[04:48] <om3ga> anther quick ? how do i close a program i cant see (adept is running)
[04:49] <asaup> doesnt resolve my problem
[04:49] <stdin> !flash | Leesus
[04:49] <ubotu> Leesus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:49] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:49] <bonbonthejon> om3ga: run "ps aux | grep adept" to get the pid, then kill that number "kill ###"
[04:49] <asaup> i think i needed a static adress because it was not connecting with dhc
[04:49] <stdin> Leesus: that page will give you information on installing flash (and other plugins too)
[04:49] <asaup> dhcp*
[04:50] <Leesus> which one
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> asaup: the router should have a dhcp server, it makes things much easier
[04:50] <asaup> yes
[04:50] <stdin> Leesus: the 1st link ubotu gave you (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats)
[04:50] <asaup> it has a dhcp server
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> asaup: why not use that then?
[04:51] <asaup> but i dont know the way to configure it in konsole
[04:51] <bonbonthejon> asaup: configure what? with dhcp there isnt anythihng to configure
[04:51] <asaup> i know
[04:51] <asaup> but i mean that i can not
[04:51] <asaup> connect with dhcp
[04:52] <asaup> i can not connect to internet
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> asaup: can you ping the router?
[04:52] <asaup> i must control it now
[04:53] <asaup> i want to ask how can i find my dns
[04:53] <om3ga> om3ga     4475  0.7  1.9  31012 14636 ?        S    22:39   0:05 adept_notifier
[04:53] <om3ga> om3ga     4670  0.0  0.1   2796   748 pts/0    R+   22:52   0:00 grep adept
[04:53] <om3ga> this is what i got
[04:53] <Leesus> I have flash on my desktop... where do I go from here
[04:54] <asaup> yes i can ping my router
[04:54] <asaup> but i dont know how to find my dns
[04:54] <om3ga> i dont know what to do from here
[04:54] <asaup> so i can put them near to servername in resolv.conf
[04:54] <bonbonthejon> om3ga: "kill 4475"
[04:55] <om3ga> ok ty
[04:55] <asaup> yes i can ping my router
[04:56] <asaup> but i dont know how to find my dns
[04:56] <asaup> so i can put them near to servername in resolv.conf
[04:56] <asaup> :(
[04:56] <bonbonthejon> asaup: looks like you should look in resolv.conf, but you got rid of it
[04:56] <asaup> yes i can look
[04:56] <asaup> but dont know
[04:56] <asaup> what to
[04:57] <asaup> put in
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> asaup: can you try dhcp again
[04:57] <om3ga> still says that adept is in use
[04:57] <asaup> sure
[04:57] <asaup> im tryin
[04:57] <asaup> but not working
[04:57] <hybridstorm> asup put "nameserver 209.51.128.19" on one line and "nameserver 209.51.128.20" on the next
[04:58] <hybridstorm> all you should need
[04:58] <asaup> i tried
[04:58] <asaup> them
[04:58] <asaup> dont working
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> asaup: you might need to restart the computer
[04:58] <hybridstorm> those are nameservers at my data center, if those do not work I am not sure your connection is working
[04:58] <asaup> the dns that i put before was ending
[04:58] <asaup> with .15 and .25
[04:59] <hybridstorm> well there are a lot of nameservers out there
[04:59] <asaup> if i restart all the resolve.conf
[04:59] <asaup> goes back
[04:59] <hybridstorm> and yes you should atleast restart networking if not the whole system after you edit it to take effect
[04:59] <asaup> ok
[04:59] <hybridstorm> can you ping an ip address but not a domain name?
[05:01] <asaup> i restarted
[05:01] <asaup> but no diff
[05:01] <hybridstorm> can you ping a ip address?
[05:01] <hybridstorm> an ip*
[05:01] <lotus> hello
[05:01] <asaup> only my router
[05:02] <hybridstorm> then I don't think your nameservers are the issue, I would assume it is an issue with the connection at the router level
[05:02] <asaup> no the problem
[05:02] <asaup> are my nameservers
[05:02] <asaup> because
[05:02] <asaup> one hour ago
[05:02] <lotus> I dont know very much about linux, but I try to install my video card
[05:02] <asaup> i was working
[05:03] <asaup> everything was ok
[05:03] <asaup> but when i restarted resolv.conf was
[05:03] <asaup> reseted
[05:03] <lotus> I already foudn out Ihave a S3 Savage 4 Card, but I just dont know what to do next
[05:03] <[R] eaper> Hi XD
[05:03] <hybridstorm> asaup, do a pastebin of your full resolv.conf file
[05:04] <asaup> it has
[05:04] <hybridstorm> should not be much at all
[05:04] <asaup> only
[05:04] <asaup> 2 lines of nameserver
[05:04] <asaup> that you gave to me
[05:04] <hybridstorm> nothing before or after it correct?
[05:04] <asaup> before it was one line with the router ip
[05:04] <[R] eaper> Help, screen size (800x600) doesn't work on fullscreen
[05:05] <hybridstorm> just the ip? nothing else?
[05:05] <asaup> 192.168.1.1
[05:05] <asaup> nothing
[05:05] <asaup> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[05:05] <hybridstorm> remove that line and try restarting again
[05:05] <asaup> it was like this
[05:05] <hybridstorm> ahh that is bad
[05:05] <asaup> why ???
[05:05] <hybridstorm> at least I don't think that should be like that...not that I have ever seen
[05:05] <hybridstorm> 192.168.1.1 is your gateway
[05:06] <hybridstorm> it is not a nameserver
[05:06] <asaup> thats what was written before
[05:06] <asaup> i deleted it and put the 2 dns you gave me
[05:06] <hybridstorm> so it is gone?
[05:07] <asaup> yes
[05:07] <asaup> i deleted it but
[05:07] <asaup> i can not connect anyway
[05:07] <Leesus> dude, is there pretty much no hope on getting flash installed on my amd64? im so frustrated
[05:08] <stdin> Leesus: nope, your only hope in gnash
[05:08] <hybridstorm> asaup, try adding "search localhost.localdomain" before the name server lines
[05:08] <lotus> does anyone know how to install a S3 Savage video card ?
[05:08] <asaup> i have to write it like this
[05:08] <asaup> ??
[05:08] <asaup> search localhost.localdomain
[05:09] <asaup> ??
[05:09] <Leesus> how can I install gnash?
[05:09] <hybridstorm> yes
[05:09] <asaup> ok
[05:09] <asaup> wait a min
[05:09] <stdin> !gnash
[05:09] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[05:10] <SlimG> How do I find out what "hwX:X" id my soundcard has ? (example: hw0:0), what does the first and second number stand for?
[05:10] <stdin> Leesus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-38245bd46a3334b4cc11601e161ddaa63439d2db
[05:10] <slyfox> what is a good virtual machine program for Kubuntu ?
[05:11] <stdin> VirtualBox is quite good
[05:12] <slyfox> stdin: when I tried virtualbox - I had an error with the usb port- i had some permission denied when I tried to mount somehting via usb in virtualbox...    ?
[05:13] <om3ga> how do i see all processes
[05:14] <stdin> slyfox: I've never had to mount a usb device in VBox, so I don't know about that, but there is a channel #vobx if you want to ask, or you can go with VMware or Qemu
[05:14] <om3ga> that are running
[05:14] <om3ga> ??
[05:14] <slyfox> om3ga: ksysguard
[05:14] <Leesus> I dont understand how to install gnash as a plugin in firefox
[05:14] <Leesus> could someone please help
[05:14] <stdin> om3ga: Ctrl-Esc (for ksysguard GUI) or "ps aux" (in term)
[05:15] <lotus> does anyone know how to install a S3 Savage video card ?
[05:15] <LaserJock> quick question, is there a theme for KDE that's similar to the Ubuntu theme?
[05:15] <om3ga> ok ty
[05:15] <asaup> i resolved the problem
[05:15] <hybridstorm> asaup, good!
[05:15] <asaup> i made static ip in eth0
[05:16] <asaup> and found my dns in my router
[05:16] <asaup> config
[05:16] <asaup> page
[05:16] <asaup> :P
[05:16] <asaup> thanx man
[05:16] <hybridstorm> well that works, good to hear you are up and running
[05:16] <stdin> Leesus: I've never done it before, so I can't really help much, but there is a more detailed page here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:16] <hybridstorm> no problem
[05:16] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:17] <Jucato> LaserJock: I think http://www.kde-look.org would have the things you're looking for
[05:17] <om3ga> what does it mean if there is a ghost beside the process
[05:17] <Jucato> LaserJock: although I'm not sure what widget style would match Ubuntu's.
[05:18] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: Ii`s not working, can ypu help me to do all this in console
[05:18] <Leesus> omg
[05:19] <Leesus> I have no idea how to do all that just to get flash working
[05:19] <Leesus> the most important plug in
[05:19] <Leesus> fuck
[05:19] <Leesus> im so screwed
[05:19] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: how far are you
[05:19] <SolidSource> Leesus: flash is easy
[05:19] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i think it will be more easyer to begin at the begining: (
[05:19] <Leesus> on an amd64 built system solidsource?
[05:20] <SolidSource> Leesus: yeah
[05:20] <SolidSource> Leesus: thats what I use
[05:20] <Leesus> how do i do it man
[05:20] <Leesus> im so lost
[05:20] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what site are you looking at?
[05:21] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[05:21] <Leesus> could you help me out solidsource?
[05:22] <SolidSource> Leesus: you have to use the 32 bit firefox/swiftfox
[05:22] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: but i think it will be more confortable to do all this in console
[05:22] <SolidSource> Leesus: then you can just follow http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_v5.0.11_for_Firefox32
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: you mean not use webmin
[05:22] <SolidSource> but use java6 not java5 as in that tutorial
[05:22] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:23] <Leesus> how do I know which firefox I have installed? I downloaded it from adept
[05:23] <om3ga> ok i cant use adept it says somthing else is using it
[05:23] <SolidSource> Leesus: thats 64bit firefox
[05:23] <Leesus> so how do I uninstall, then install the 32bit version?
[05:23] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: we can use webmin, if you think is easyer
[05:24] <SolidSource> Leesus: uninstall in adept using purge
[05:24] <Dr_willis> I like webmin.. but really dont need it much. :)
[05:24] <SolidSource> Leesus: then (what I use) download swiftfox for your arch at getsiftfox.com
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !info swiftfox
[05:24] <ubotu> Package swiftfox does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:25] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i though that was in seveas
[05:25] <SolidSource> nope
[05:25] <Leesus> arch?
[05:25] <SolidSource> ........
[05:25] <SolidSource> architecture
[05:25] <SolidSource> your processor
[05:25] <Leesus> lol
[05:25] <Leesus> wow
[05:25] <Leesus> im a dumbass
[05:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:25] <Leesus> yeah, sorry im obviously tired
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:26] <SolidSource> Leesus: download the deb file that they make
[05:28] <Leesus> deb as in short for debian?
[05:28] <SolidSource> yes and *.DEB file extension
[05:29] <Darkkish> i need a laptop batterymanager that will show up in the xfce system tray
[05:30] <bonbonthejon> Darkkish: ask in #xubuntu
[05:30] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me installing --> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php
[05:30] <Darkkish> i did
[05:30] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:30] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did you add the repo in sources.list
[05:30] <Leesus> so do I need to download the 32 bit version?
[05:30] <Darkkish> bonbonthejon: i did
[05:30] <Leesus> because of the flash thing?
[05:30] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: no.. :(
[05:30] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: how to do that
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: open konsole, then do "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Darkkish: well, this really isnt the place for xfce
[05:31] <Leesus> solidsource, could you pm me?
[05:31] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7745/
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Darkkish: isnt there a battery monityr already
[05:31] <SolidSource> Leesus: umm k
[05:32] <Leesus> damnit
[05:32] <Leesus> well, which version of swiftfox do I need?
[05:33] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: then this "deb http://..... edgy main" at the bottom?
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: yeah, then save
[05:33] <SolidSource> Leesus: http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm and select your processor
[05:33] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: do i have to add the , too ?
[05:33] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main           or     deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main,
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:33] <Kite_DH> k
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: no
[05:34] <Kite_DH> thx
[05:34] <Kite_DH> ok now it works
[05:34] <Kite_DH> thx
[05:34] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: do you really have eth0, eth1, eth2, ath0, wlan0, and dsl-provider?
[05:34] <Leesus> solidsource: But there are two builds (athlon 64 & Athlon 64(32 bit os)
[05:35] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: but it still says 1.4.4 .... =(
[05:35] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[05:35] <ForgeAus> jucato you there?
[05:35] <ForgeAus> startx worked fine
[05:35] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i have eth0 and et1
[05:35] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i have eth0 and eth1
[05:35] <SolidSource> Leesus: ok and?
[05:35] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what about the rest
[05:36] <Leesus> Solidsource: Which one do I need to get flash working
[05:36] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did it upgrade
[05:36] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i didn`t have it, i have an internet conection with eth0 and lan conection with eth1
[05:37] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, in interfaces delete the other entries
[05:37] <Leesus> solidsource^^
[05:37] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: how
[05:37] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:37] <SolidSource> Leesus: well the Athlon 64 is for 64 bit OS and the Athlon 64 (32bit OS) is for 32bit OS
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: edit interfaces and delete the sections you are not using
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did you restart amarok
[05:38] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:38] <Leesus> Solidsource: is kubuntu a 64 bit os?
[05:38] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok
[05:38] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: maybe relog?
[05:38] <SolidSource> Leesus: depends if you got that version
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: it should have worked, but try it
[05:38] <JackPhil> when I turn on the xgl+beryl, the sound of apps event is disappear
[05:39] <Leesus> Solidsource: how can I tell?
[05:39] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i`m finished
[05:39] <JackPhil> such as bell of konsole, app launch sound
[05:39] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, hiold on
[05:39] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok
[05:39] <SolidSource> Leesus: in konsole type "uname -r"
[05:40] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: still not working :(
[05:40] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, also delete the lines with pre-up
[05:40] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: where does it say 1.4.4
[05:41] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: help > about amarok
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: im just walking you thru http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway if you want to look at it
[05:41] <Leesus> 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:41] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok, i did that
[05:41] <Leesus> SolidSource^^
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did it upgrade everything, or did it leave anything behind
[05:41] <SolidSource> Leesus: ok...that would be 64bit
[05:41] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: im upgrading with adept now, thx anyway =)
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: glad to help
[05:44] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: you what that i do what there says?
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: yeah, there first page is okay
[05:45] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok
[05:46] <Leesus> Solidsource: ok so I have the deb file on my desktop now and its not letting me install it manually in terminal
[05:46] <Leesus> using sudo dpkg commands
[05:47] <Dr_willis> and any error messages are?
[05:47] <SolidSource> Leesus: you need the ia32 packages installed
[05:47] <Leesus> what are those?
[05:48] <SolidSource> Leesus: they allow you to use 32bit applicatins
[05:48] <SolidSource> applications*
[05:48] <Leesus> where could I get those
[05:49] <SolidSource> adept is the easiest...only need 5 of em
[05:49] <Leesus> what are the names
[05:49] <Leesus> ia32-libs?
[05:50] <SolidSource> only the ones that start ia32-libs
[05:50] <Dr_willis> !unp
[05:50] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:51] <Leesus> SolidSource: there is only one listed?
[05:51] <Leesus> not 5
[05:51] <sscssc> il a des fr?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> !fr
[05:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:51] <SolidSource> there should be 6 actually....
[05:52] <SolidSource> and if its not finding, then you need new sources.list
[05:52] <Leesus> alright
[05:52] <Leesus> I got it
[05:52] <Leesus> now how do I manually install the browser?
[05:52] <crazy_penguin> Good morning!
[05:53] <SolidSource> "sudo dpkg -i PACKAGENAME.deb"
[05:53] <sscssc> ok
[05:54] <stdin> if it's a i386 package, you may need the "--force-architecture" flag
[05:54] <Leesus> it says no such file or directory?
[05:54] <SolidSource> stdin: its not i386...
[05:54] <stdin> Leesus: replace "PACKAGENAME.deb" with the actual package name
[05:54] <Leesus> I did
[05:54] <Leesus> swiftfox_2.0.0.2-1_athlon64.deb
[05:54] <Leesus> its located on my desktop
[05:54] <Leesus> I can physically see the phile
[05:54] <stdin> SolidSource: ahh, ok :P
[05:54] <SolidSource> Leesus: open new konsole "cd ~/Desktop"
[05:55] <SolidSource> then use that command
[05:55] <Leesus> still no go?
[05:55] <Leesus> weird
[05:56] <SolidSource> use pastebin and copy what konsole says to it
[05:56] <SolidSource> !paste
[05:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:56] <stdin> Leesus: try "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/swiftfox_2.0.0.2-1_athlon64.deb" (copy & paste it)
[05:56] <SolidSource> that might work
[05:57] <Leesus> ok that worked
[05:57] <stdin> wooh :P
[05:57] <ubuntu> hellow
[05:57] <ubuntu> hellow :)
[05:57] <SolidSource> boo you made stdin happy
[05:57] <Leesus> but I got an error?
[05:57] <Leesus> dependency problems
[05:57] <Leesus> prevent configuration
[05:57] <stdin> Leesus: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:58] <ubuntu> I want to reinstall grub ...however when I type "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" it gives me not found or not a block device error
[05:58] <SolidSource> did you install all the ia32-libs-*?
[05:58] <Leesus> stdin: im guessing that uninstalled it? where to go from here?
[05:59] <stdin> Leesus: post the output to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:59] <stdin> Leesus: and post the url back here
[06:00] <Leesus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7746/
[06:01] <Leesus> god this is so confusing.. I hope I can get everything working right soon, I dont wanna go back to xp
[06:01] <SolidSource> Leesus: it failed because you didn't have all the ia32-libs-* installed
[06:01] <Leesus> I downloaded all the ones available in adept?
[06:02] <SolidSource> Leesus: all 6?
[06:02] <Leesus> when I enter ia32-libs in the search field it only brings up on entry
[06:03] <Leesus> when I downloaded it, it had 5 progress bars which I think represented 5 files
[06:03] <Leesus> not 6
[06:03] <stdin> what's the package it shows?
[06:03] <SolidSource> it should install 11 packages or so
[06:03] <SolidSource> for dependcies
[06:04] <Leesus> package: ia32-libs, installed size 41m, descriP;
[06:04] <Leesus> ia32 shared libraries for use... etc.
[06:04] <SolidSource> thats only 1 of 6
[06:05] <SolidSource> if only 1 is showing up...need to update sources.list
[06:05] <Leesus> how do I do that
[06:05] <SolidSource> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:06] <SolidSource> then you need to copy the info provided over the info in your current sources.list
[06:06] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ilook here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[06:06] <tarelerulz__> gnutella don't work for me
[06:07] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: after i did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:07] <gugu^> bonbonthejon:  what i must do?
[06:07] <SolidSource> Leesus: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" will allow you access to the current list
[06:07] <tarelerulz__> I don't see any file to download
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: follow the site, im heading to bed, good luck
[06:07] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: thx, good night
[06:08] <jordo23> What's the best plugin to use with Konq to view streamed video?
[06:08] <SolidSource> jordo23: Mplayer is the norm
[06:09] <jordo23> SolidSource: I am trying to view streams using Mplayer's plugin....but it doesn't seem to work....
[06:09] <eric> when i boot i get a "cannot enable RNG, aborting" error
[06:10] <tarelerulz__> is there mplayer plugin for konqueror?
[06:10] <eric> and it doesn't show the normal boot screen
[06:10] <SolidSource> jordo23: you have the mplayer plugin installed?
[06:10] <eric> just the blinking cursor
[06:10] <SolidSource> jordo23: konqueror uses same plugins as firefox
[06:10] <jordo23> SolidSource: I believe so....what's the package name?
[06:10] <hybridstorm> where is the splashy folder?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> 'locate splashy' ?
[06:11] <SolidSource> jordo23: mozilla-mplayer and kmplayer-konq-plugins are the 2
[06:12] <hybridstorm> Dr_willis, no results
[06:12] <Dr_willis> proberly aint updated your locate database recently
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !info splashy
[06:12] <ubotu> Package splashy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:13] <hybridstorm> ahh well there you go
[06:13] <hybridstorm> how do I edit my boot screen then?
[06:13] <Jucato> !usplash
[06:13] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:13] <Dr_willis> I always edit it by using the 'nosplash' option to the kernel...
[06:13] <Dr_willis> that edits it REAL NICE....
[06:14] <alex__> rc://irc.abjects.net/overflow
[06:14] <hybridstorm> ::reads docs like a good user::
[06:14] <cpk1> lol Dr_willis
[06:14] <jordo23> SolidSource: Do I have to install them through Konq?
[06:15] <SolidSource> jordo23: no, adept, but you would have to restart konq
[06:16] <hybridstorm> I have to know c to make a bootscreen?
[06:16] <jordo23> SolidSource: I hear the video but I don't see it....mlb.com player highlights
[06:16] <Dr_willis> not that i am aware of hybrid
[06:16] <Dr_willis> oops hybridstorm
[06:16] <jordo23> SolidSource: Says it's playing with Mplayer
[06:18] <SolidSource> jordo23: hmmm, mplayer plugin keeps crashing in konq...works in firefox though
[06:18] <hybridstorm> "I assume that the reader has basic c programming knowledge..."
[06:19] <Dr_willis> hybridstorm,  just give up then... go back! its too hard!
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Dont go on!.....
[06:19] <Dr_willis> or forge ahead.. and start learning...
[06:20] <hybridstorm> well as much as I want to learn c I really don't want to learn it just to make a bootsplash
[06:20] <Jucato> hybridstorm: for the bootsplash? yes. or try to install something like slashy or fbsplash... (not easy either)
[06:20] <hybridstorm> seems a bit over complex to me
[06:21] <hybridstorm> I guess i can live with what I have since I only boot about once a month, if that, and it only takes 20 seconds or so
[06:21] <cpk1> rofl
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I thought the only c was converting the image to some struct() or somthing...
[06:21] <cpk1> because learning is just too damn hard...
[06:21] <cpk1> I want splash with the messages
[06:21] <cpk1> it used to do that...
[06:22] <cpk1> it had the little picture with the loading bar and showed all the blahblah ..... ok!
[06:22] <hybridstorm> get fedora
[06:22] <hybridstorm> lol
[06:22] <cpk1> but now it doesnt
[06:22] <Jucato> cpk1: remove "silent" in the menu.lst entry for the kernel you booting into
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> cpk1: i think if you pull the 'quiet' out of menu.lst it'll do it
[06:22] <Jucato> er.. "quiet" I meean
[06:22] <cpk1> oh that easy?
[06:22] <Jucato> mean*
[06:22] <tarelerulz__> When I download small movie Konqueror open Kaffiene player ? Is that the kmplayer plugin working
[06:23] <Jucato> no. that's kaffeine working
[06:23] <SolidSource> lol
[06:24] <cpk1> # defoptions=quiet splash vga=795 that line I have to leave defoptions= in right so i need to make it look like # defoptions=splash vga=795 the explaination is kind of ambiguous
[06:24] <Jucato> my menu.lst doesn't look that way though...
[06:25] <Jucato> kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb2 ro quiet splash <---- remove the "quiet"
[06:25] <cpk1> I am trying to use the automagicness so I dont always have to change it =)
[06:25] <Jucato> ok..
[06:25] <Jucato> you're call
[06:26] <cpk1> I'll change it now and when I reboot sometime in the future and something is broken I will probably wonder what the hell is going on =P.  Too lazy to test by rebooting now hehe
[06:28] <cpk1> looks like what I was saying worked, after reading it after running update-grub
[06:28] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash
[06:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <Jucato> :P
[06:29] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash  noquiet verbose
[06:29] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash  noquiet verbose takeovertheworld
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Nyquill is kicking in.... night all.
[06:29] <Jucato> #defoptions = nodrwilllis
[06:29] <cpk1> hehe
[06:30] <Dr_willis> #defoptions = the sniffling, sneezying, coughing, weezing, pukeing, gaghing, projectile vomting, so you can take over the world medecine.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> night.
[06:31] <Darkkish> how would i add http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/ to my repository?
[06:31] <Jucato> Darkkish: you should really be asking in #xubuntu about this
[06:33] <Darkkish> Jucato i have
[06:33] <SolidSource> still don't see why people would use xfce over kde...or even gnome
[06:33] <Darkkish> nobody in xubuntu is that helpful lol'
[06:33] <Jucato> Darkkish: asking the same thing in here won't get you anywhere...
[06:33] <Darkkish> SolidSource because kde uses alot of ram, i personally like it, but i don't have alot of ram on my laptop
[06:33] <posingaspopular> Darkkish: im in xubuntu, i just dont know the answer
[06:33] <Jucato> Darkkish: how much ram?
[06:33] <Jucato> SolidSource: one word: freedom
[06:33] <Darkkish> ... 512
[06:34] <Darkkish> i like xfce's panels :-/ even though there are alot of things about kde that i like more, i really like the xfce panels
[06:34] <Jucato> Darkkish: that's good enough really
[06:34] <Jucato> Darkkish: as for the "uses a lot of ram"
[06:34] <SolidSource> Jucato: do mean the whole because you can?
[06:34] <Jucato> !ram | Darkkish
[06:34] <ubotu> Darkkish: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[06:34] <Darkkish> lol gnome uses more
[06:35] <Jucato> SolidSource: because they can if they want to
[06:37] <eric> whats so good about xfce?
[06:40] <nalioth> eric: it's very light on system resources
[06:41] <Jucato> jordo23: do you have w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs installed right?
[06:41] <Darkkish> eric it has a nice customizable menu system too... depending on what you want
[06:41] <jordo23> will check
[06:41] <jordo23> Jucato: Which repos?
[06:42] <SolidSource> jordo23: w32codecs isn't in repo
[06:42] <Jucato> Darkkish: true. that's one of the things I like about Xfce
[06:42] <eric> hmm
[06:42] <eric> maybe i'll test it out
[06:42] <jordo23> I show libxine codecs installed.....
[06:42] <Jucato> jordo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:42] <Darkkish> Jucato thats the main reason i switched to it, i plan to use my laptop for writing and there are alot of nice features related to it and whatnot
[06:43] <SolidSource> jordo23: you need w32codecs too unless in feisty
[06:43] <Darkkish> what is the command that lets you download files via the console?
[06:43] <Jucato> wget ?
[06:43] <Darkkish> yes lol thanks
[06:43] <Jucato> Darkkish: there is a sort of equivalent to Xfce's menu, but not exactly like a menu
[06:43] <Jucato> Darkkish: Quick Launcher kicker applet
[06:43] <Darkkish> Jucato yes i think i tried it
[06:43] <Darkkish> didn't do exactly what i was hoping for
[06:44] <jordo23> Oh....I get it....this is a Ubuntu Feisty media issue....have read about this right?
[06:44] <Darkkish> so i just do wget http://url.com/file.ext
[06:44] <Jucato> Darkkish: there's also another way to do it. Quick File browser, point it to a folder with links to programs
[06:44] <Jucato> Darkkish: technically, yes
[06:46] <coreymon77> Darkkish: you could also use apt
[06:46] <Darkkish> crap
[06:46] <Darkkish> so now i have this tar.gz
[06:47] <Darkkish> and i have no idea where to put it :p
[07:06] <Tido> meh
[07:07] <Tido> *linux*/kubuntu/ubuntu
[07:07] <Tido> it's just not really, perfect
[07:07] <Tido> but then again nor is windows
[07:07] <stdin> nothing is
[07:07] <Tido> sometimes things get buggy in kubuntu, and I get frustrated, and I go into windows
[07:07] <Tido> but it's buggy there too lol
[07:07] <Tido> just different bugs
[07:09] <Tido> firefox is more stable on windows
[07:09] <Tido> the laptop's battery lasts longer on linux
[07:09] <Tido> etc etc
[07:10] <cpk1> use konquerer?
[07:10] <Tido> no
[07:10] <Tido> love it as a file browser
[07:11] <Tido> not crazy about it for web
[07:11] <cpk1> O.o how is it different when you are using the web?
[07:12] <Tido> I don't like how it renders certain things
[07:12] <tarelerulz_> I am using gtk-gnutella and I can't see any files to download . Is anyone else had the probem?
[07:12] <Jucato> ironically, it's the most standards compliant, even outranking opera...
[07:12] <Tido> like fieldset, ugh
[07:12] <fignew> Tido: strange, I never realized it rendered anything differently from any other browser (sans IE)
[07:12] <Tido> says who, Jucato?
[07:13] <fignew> Tido: the standards tests ;)
[07:13] <Tido> link?
[07:13] <Jucato> Tido: says testing sites
[07:13] <Jucato> unlike MS, KDE doesn't have money to pay people to make up test results :D
[07:13] <Tido> I'm not trying to put you on the spot, I'm just really curious about these things
[07:14] <gugu^> If i from an Windows mashine conect to an linux mashine is asking me a password, how to remove pass
[07:14] <fignew> http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17160 <-- there's one
[07:14] <Jucato> for css3 http://www.css3.info/blog/khtml-356-is-the-most-css3-compliant-of-all/
[07:14] <Tido> that's cool
[07:14] <Tido> I wish I could start using css3 for work
[07:15] <fignew> http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10753
[07:15] <fignew> second browser to pass ACID2 test :)
[07:15] <Jucato> looks like fignew has more links than me... although osnews.. :P
[07:15] <gugu^> If i from an Windows mashine conect to an linux mashine is asking me a password, how to remove pass!this all happens on my LAN
[07:16] <fignew> only shortfall of Konqueror (in my opinion) is slow javascript
[07:16] <Tido> gugu^: you're on a windows machine and you're trying to access a samba share on a linux machine?
[07:16] <Tido> yeah, javascript is what kills me in opera
[07:16] <gugu^> Tido: yes
[07:16] <Tido> otherwise I'd love that browser
[07:16] <Jucato> being fixed every new release...
[07:17] <fignew> Opera is very nice, very quick (esp. back button)
[07:17] <Jucato> fignew: you don't consider the absence of RTF/WYSIWYG ability in Konqeuror a shortfall? :D
[07:17] <Tido> gugu^: you need to read up on how to make anoynomous (sp) access to samba shares, best way is to read a wiki HOWTO on samba @ ubuntu wiki
[07:17] <Jucato> s/shortfall/shortcoming
[07:17] <fignew> Jucato: what do you mean?
[07:17] <gugu^> Tido: thx
[07:17] <gugu^> ok
[07:18] <fignew> in text fields?
[07:18] <Jucato> fignew: no. posting in stuff like Blogger and Wordpress.
[07:18] <Jucato> the WYSIWYG editors
[07:18] <fignew> never tried that :/
[07:19] <Jucato> some CMS/Blogs provide editors that have WYSIWYG capabilities. Konqueror can't do those
[07:19] <Jucato> notably all blogging apps
[07:21] <Tido> I wasn't saying konqueror is bad, I really like it overall, I'm just used to firefox and love all the extensions for it
[07:21] <Tido> but I hate what a memory hog it is
[07:22] <Jucato> another irony is that firefox is mostly loved for something that isn't directly related to browsing at all... :)
[07:22] <Jucato> (extensions)
[07:22] <Tido> hey, as a web developer, those web dev extensions are fantastic! :D
[07:23] <fignew> hmm, Jucato, I'm in wordpress
[07:23] <Jucato> I never said they weren't... I just said they're not directly related to web browsing :)
[07:23] <Jucato> fignew: if you try to write a post
[07:23] <fignew> don't see WYSIWYG (in firefox)
[07:24] <Jucato> ??
[07:24] <fignew> http://demo.opensourcecms.com/wordpress/wp-admin/
[07:24] <fignew> u:admin,p:demo
[07:24] <Tido> that, and FF is the browser I have the best change of making someone switch to from IE.  It's a big name in open source and I think that's a good thing
[07:24] <Jucato> fignew: if you type something, then select the text, then click on bold, the text turns bold
[07:24] <Tido> and for windows users, it's a great choice
[07:25] <Jucato> fignew: whoa.. that's.. a weird WP...
[07:25] <Tido> it's really really hard to convince people to accept open source completely and go to something like a  linux operating system, but it's much more practical to slowly get them there with a great alternative to IE
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: this is a better discussion for #kubnuntu-offtopic but yes I agree
[07:26] <Tido> ah yeah, sorry for the casual chatting
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> we've all doen it.
[07:27] <fignew> nah, this is ontopic
[07:27] <tarelerulz2> Getting people to try linux is hard as soon as something don't work right . Well, that is not better then windows they say
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> topic is "#kubuntu-offtopic for anything non-support
[07:28] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[07:28] <Tido> hooray
[07:28] <khaije1> okay so my kopete grip... how do i block people on the yahoo protocol ?!?
[07:28] <Jucato> (mea culpla, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa)
[07:28] <reldruh> if questions are on-topic, is there a way to tag an image in digikam with multiple tags at the same time?
[07:29] <tarelerulz2> Do any of you use gtk-gnutella?
[07:29] <khaije1> i'm getting spammed invites every few minutes :-(
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> khaije1: does the documentation say anything
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !documentation
[07:29] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:29] <fignew> tarelerulz2: I used to, back when I used gnome
[07:30] <tarelerulz2> The reason I ask is I can't seem to get to work
[07:30] <tarelerulz2> I try looking up stuff and get nothing
[07:30] <khaije1> Admiral_Chicago: nope, i used to use gaim exclusively but i'm trying to give kopete a chance, it's great except this featuer seems totally absent
[07:30] <Jucato> reldruh: right-click -> Edit comments and Tags?
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> khaije1: i don't know kopete though
[07:30] <tarelerulz2> I forward the ports and that did nto help
[07:30] <reldruh> Jucato: I can add them one at a time that way, but is there a way to add multiple tags without having to right-click again for each tag?
[07:31] <khaije1> i guess i should ask on #kopete :-) that would make sense
[07:31] <Jucato> reldruh: right-click -> Edit comments and Tags
[07:31] <fignew> tarelerulz2: gnutella isn't that good
[07:31] <Jucato> reldruh: it popups up a dialog box
[07:31] <tarelerulz2> Well, what is good one Then?
[07:32] <fignew> bittorrent
[07:32] <fignew> !p2p
[07:32] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> rtorrent. ktorrent
[07:32] <fignew> yes, in kubuntu, ktorrent
[07:32] <tarelerulz2> I would ,but I just want song or two
[07:32] <fignew> I used to use rtorrent, now that's good stuff!
[07:32] <oliver> hola
[07:32] <fignew> can't help you there
[07:33] <oliver> alguien de uruguay?
[07:33] <Jucato> !es
[07:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:33] <Jucato> !pt
[07:33] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:34] <tarelerulz2> I may just get stuff with bit torrent
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> first one
[07:34] <tarelerulz2> I would love to get something for song or two
[07:34] <tarelerulz2> I mean other then song or two I don't download much besides iso and stuff
[07:35] <fignew> if a bittorrent file contails multiple files, you can choose only to download certain files from it
[07:35] <fignew> i'm out
[07:36] <reldruh> in kmail, is there a way to make it like gmail, where I can archive messages and have them leave my inbox but still stay searchable?
[07:36] <meteor-1500> hi all
[07:37] <Tido> is there a way I can get flash9 and everything else audio related to share nicely?
[07:37] <meteor-1500> anyone know of any blender 2.43 packages for 6.10?
[07:37] <Tido> because if flash has sound, nothing else can be played
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: what version do you have?
[07:38] <Tido> of flash?
[07:38] <reldruh> meteor-1500: blender 2.4.3 is out?
[07:39] <meteor-1500> indeed
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, flash version
[07:39] <graficus> wow, lots of ppl here
[07:39] <Tido> Admiral_Chicago: 9 I believe, but the exact version I'm not sure.  What's a good way of finding that out?
[07:39] <Jucato> meteor-1500: you can simply run the blender executable that Blender.org provides. no need to compile, no need to install
[07:40] <meteor-1500> ah ok
[07:40] <meteor-1500> doesn't need libraries or anything?
[07:40] <Jucato> meteor-1500: nope. the tarball they provide seems complete
[07:40] <graficus> can I ask a question?
[07:40] <Jucato> ask away
[07:40] <graficus> ty :)
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> you may ask another one :)
[07:41] <stdin> Tido: open firefox or konqu and put this as the address: about:plugins
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask
[07:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <graficus> i have an external drive
[07:41] <Jucato> Tido: about:plugins ? or apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[07:41] <graficus> it seems to run some sort of windows by itself
[07:41] <graficus> how do i make it a writable share?
[07:42] <graficus> thru smb:// it doesn't work
[07:42] <meteor-1500> cool
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: yup how Jucato explained, its the first one
[07:42] <meteor-1500> ta
[07:42] <graficus> and i can't play any files thru smb either (like mp3 etc)
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> graficus: you've got it mounted as noexec i think
[07:42] <tarelerulz2> mplayer works for mp3
[07:42] <tarelerulz2> on on smb
[07:43] <Tido> Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78
[07:43] <graficus> its a network drive, so linux treats it as another windows computer, not a drive
[07:43] <graficus> i just want to be able to double click things in there
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: you have a problem with your sound I think. it works fine here on autodetect sound driver
[07:44] <Tido> might just be something a simple reboot could fix, the probably only started recently
[07:45] <graficus> no. i installed MEPIS and Mandriva, they all play fine. but i want ubuntu to work, cuz i like it better
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: try that. also, alsamixer might be the problem
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> run that in a terminal
[07:46] <Tido> that has to be the coolest terminal program I've ever seen lol
[07:46] <graficus> alsamixer - hehe, cool. i can learn just by eavesdropping ;)
[07:47] <Tido> PCM
[07:47] <Tido> what is that?
[07:47] <Tido> whatever it is, it's what really controls sound output it seems
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure...
[07:48] <graficus> no ideas regarding smb?
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> graficus: its mounted on fstab?
[07:48] <Tido> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[07:49] <graficus> you mean its possible to mount another computer as a drive in fstab?
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> and yes, it controls sound output for the ALSA device
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[07:49] <tarelerulz2> I can't seem to get any thing like gnutella on here
[07:50] <stdin> graficus: you don't mount the computer, you mount the remote share
[07:50] <graficus> nothing happens when fstab is entered into console. i'm sorry if it sounds stupid, am a linix noob
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> graficus: /etc/fstab ....
[07:50] <posingaspopular> graficus: this nice man Admiral_Chicago answers all the questions in this chan
[07:51] <posingaspopular> if you need any help at any hour of the day/night, ask him
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> nano /etc/fstab
[07:51] <stdin> * sudo ^
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> right....do kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[07:51] <graficus> ok got it, then what?
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a sec.
[07:52] <graficus> "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network." I know its there
[07:53] <graficus> is there anything else i need beside samba?
[07:53] <graficus> smbns or smbfs or something i heard about
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> gangien__: no i need to google gor the answer, i don't know how to do it, only that its possible
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> gangien__: http://tinyurl.com/2b39b4
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry I have to go to bed
[07:55] <mefisto__> I don't seem to have write access to my fat32 hard disk. fstab hasn't changed. But if I do "mount" in the list of mounts the disk is mounted "ro"
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: paste your fstab please
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> gangien__: does that link help?
[07:58] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7762/
[07:58] <networkparadox> help! has anyone seen my pointer it ran away last night  Where in KDE can I start to look
[07:59] <graficus> wrong mouse config?
[07:59] <networkparadox> did an apt update last night before I went to bed,
[07:59] <poningru> networkparadox: I saw it right ehre
[07:59] <poningru> 0x83721a3e
[08:00] <poningru> your pointer ^^
[08:00] <graficus> what happens when you do "xev" in term?
[08:00] <networkparadox> today my login screen is doing this wierd zoom thing and no pointer
[08:01] <graficus> @version
[08:01] <Ubugtu> The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.2.
[08:02] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: did you see the fstab?
[08:02] <graficus> me thinks he went to bed
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: yes, pasting it now.
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> still here, gangien__ any progress?
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7763/
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: sudo umount -a
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: sudo monunt -a
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> let me know if that works
[08:04] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: what is that you pasted?
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: a better fstab. the current owner was root
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> that means you needed root to do anything
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> but you couldn't do a chmod 700 to the /etc file because its dynamic.
[08:06] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: and who will be owner with the new fstab?
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: there will not be an owner.
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> you don't need the owner parameter
[08:07] <mefisto__> because in the current setup, I am normally the owner of that disk
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> this way user 1000 (the first use [you if there is only one user]  can use it)
[08:09] <networkparadox> my pointer hath returned, I got out of windblows and rebooted and now it is back...
[08:09] <networkparadox> Thanks for the help
[08:10] <graficus> nite
[08:11] <ghetek> does edgy support bluetooth ad2p?
[08:19] <ghetek> does anybody do stuff in kubuntu with bluetooth?
[08:23] <bele> yes
[08:25] <xerroz> anyone know why konq/ktorrent wouldnt be able to access the internet, while firefox and others have no problem?
[08:26] <hybridstorm> xerroz, do you have a firewall?
[08:26] <xerroz> hybridstorm: no
[08:26] <xerroz> even if i did, it would be very unusal for it to prevent konqueror while allowing firefox to work
[08:27] <hybridstorm> ohh it stopped konqueror too
[08:27] <hybridstorm> hmm, double checked proxy settings?
[08:28] <xerroz> they were never changed
[08:28] <hybridstorm> is this a clean install or did it just start happening?
[08:28] <xerroz> just recently
[08:29] <hybridstorm> hmm, I would retrace my steps and see what I changed....(I am by no means an expert at linux :))
[08:29] <xerroz> more than likely its a configure change from a package upgrade
[08:29] <xerroz> tracing that is like finding a needle in a huge pile of needles
[08:30] <JackPhil> kchmviewer not integrated into konqueror?
[08:30] <JackPhil> like kpdf
[08:30] <xerroz> nope
[08:30] <xerroz> brb
[08:36] <momal> Does anyone happen to know of a good conference program? I just need webcam support and typing to each other... but I need a linux and windows version.
[08:36] <tarelerulz> what is good port to use for ktorrents?
[08:40] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, what are you looking for?
[08:40] <underdog5004> momal, skype
[08:40] <momal> underdog5004: skype doesn't have camera support in linux.
[08:41] <underdog5004> oh, my bad
[08:41] <l_r> hello
[08:41] <l_r> i do not remember the version nor the name of my ubuntu system. is there any way to know both?
[08:41] <tarelerulz> I want to download a movie
[08:42] <underdog5004> l_r, lsb_release -a
[08:42] <underdog5004> !p2p
[08:42] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:42] <tarelerulz> I am lost I don't know what port to use
[08:42] <l_r> underdog5004, thanks
[08:42] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, on your router?
[08:42] <tarelerulz> Yes I have a router
[08:42] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, how old are you?
[08:43] <underdog5004> this is very important for determining which port
[08:43] <momal> .. >_>.. really? lol
[08:43] <underdog5004> lol
[08:43] <tarelerulz> 27 ,but I don't see what that has to do with anything
[08:43] <underdog5004> you must use port 1027 on your router
[08:43] <underdog5004> real easy
[08:44] <tarelerulz> thanks man
[08:44] <underdog5004> make sure to tell ktorrent that 1027 is the open port
[08:48] <tarelerulz_> I told my router and Ktorrent port 1027 and now the download are not working as well at all
[08:48] <Lynoure> underdog5004: Are you pulling his leg on purpose?
[08:49] <tarelerulz_> Not cool if that is so
[08:50] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, did you configure ktorrent to use port 1027?
[08:50] <tarelerulz_> Yes
[08:50] <usman> any one tell me how can install DHCP Server
[08:50] <underdog5004> Lynoure, I'm not pulling his leg, port 1027 is a perfectly acceptable port to use for torrent traffic
[08:50] <Lynoure> tarelerulz_: http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1003&highlight= could help you perhaps
[08:50] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, did you set the port open to udp or tcp?
[08:50] <Lynoure> underdog5004: but by no means mandatory or typical
[08:50] <tarelerulz_> both it says
[08:51] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, hmmm, try using a different port for udp and tcp
[08:52] <underdog5004> like, port 1027 for tcp and port 1028 for udp
[08:53] <usman> any one tell me how can install DHCP Server
[08:54] <underdog5004> usman, howtoforge.net is a great place for that
[08:54] <underdog5004> usman, lemme find the right page real quick...h/o
[08:54] <usman> ok
[08:57] <underdog5004> usman, ok, here it is:         http://howtoforge.net/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[08:57] <underdog5004> I assumed ubuntu for the os...you can find other os howto's on the site though
[08:58] <usman> thx
[08:58] <prak> can anyone recommend a good project management software that's capable of making gantt chart in kubuntu linux?
[08:58] <prak> that's sort of like microsoft project in windows?
[08:58] <Lynoure> usman: If you just want a dhcp server and not a firewall and gateway as well, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_DHCP_Server_for_automatic_IP_addresses_assignment is easier
[08:58] <underdog5004> gantt?
[08:59] <Lynoure> prak: yes, there are some free ones that are fine, and even couple of commercial ones
[08:59] <underdog5004> Lynoure, thanks Lynoure...I used that (my) guide to set up my server, I thought that was what he was doing as well.
[08:59] <usman> not i want server with firewall
[08:59] <usman> i will check it
[08:59] <Lynoure> underdog5004: seems you guessed right :)
[09:00] <prak> ok, Lynoure
[09:00] <Lynoure> prak: lemme look them up...
[09:00] <prak> ok
[09:00] <underdog5004> yay
[09:00] <prak> i have some trouble looking up legit ones on google
[09:01] <Lynoure> prak: you can look packages up with   apt-cache search searchtermhere
[09:01] <Angel> hello
[09:01] <underdog5004> make sure you do sudo though
[09:01] <underdog5004> hi, Anakin
[09:01] <Lynoure> prak: planner is, at least
[09:01] <underdog5004> hi, Angel
[09:01] <tarelerulz__> the first menu gives the name of the program and then port rang and then ip it is going to .
[09:01] <prak> Lynoure: does planner come with kubuntu installation?
[09:02] <Lynoure> prak: I have not tried  opensched
[09:02] <underdog5004> tarelerulz_, what are you talking about?
[09:02] <Lynoure> prak: yes and no, in the repositories, but not installed
[09:02] <Angel> excuse me it's the firts time i've used Konversation ; how to go for instance to BashFR channel ??
[09:02] <tarelerulz__> my router config page
[09:02] <prak> Lynoure: ok
[09:03] <Angel> ya des fr ici ?
[09:03] <Henning3> Hi. Does anyone know how to set the root-password on a fresh installed kubuntu 6.10? I installed it, but I weren't ask for a root-password.
[09:03] <underdog5004> tarelerulz_, make sure you set the port to be forwarded to your IP address
[09:03] <Lynoure> prak: you can  install it from Adept or  by  sudo aptitude install planner
[09:03] <underdog5004> Henning3, sudo passwd root
[09:03] <Angel[FR] > arf po de fr =/
[09:03] <underdog5004> Henning3, but it's better to do sudo
[09:03] <prak> Lynoure: in the progress of doing so
[09:03] <Angel[FR] > ++
[09:03] <prak> Lynoure: thanks
[09:03] <Lynoure> !sudo | Henning3
[09:03] <ubotu> Henning3: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <Henning3> underdog5004 I can't switch to root with "su"
[09:04] <underdog5004> Henning3, you don't need to
[09:04] <underdog5004> use sudo
[09:04] <Henning3> ah
[09:04] <underdog5004> syntax: sudo command
[09:04] <Henning3> okay, I'll try ... thank you very much
[09:04] <underdog5004> real easy
[09:04] <Henning3> bye
[09:07] <underdog5004> tarelerulz_, make sure you set the port to be forwarded to your IP address
[09:09] <underdog5004> oooooooookkkkkkkkay
[09:11] <xerroz> is there some reason the upgrade removed adept?
[09:11] <benhard> hallooooo
[09:12] <OctOpus> hellooooo
[09:12] <underdog5004> I'm here for answers to your questions.
[09:12] <benhard> can I connect this chat to users in YM ?
[09:12] <underdog5004> YM?
[09:12] <Jucato> Yahoo Messenger
[09:13] <Jucato> this chat is IRC (like mIRC). it's not IM (Yahoo Messenger, MSN, Google Talk)
[09:13] <benhard> Thx..
[09:14] <Jucato> benhard: you can use Kopete for your IM needs
[09:15] <benhard> thx jucato.. yes... I am trying
[09:25] <jeff_> salut a tous et a toutes
[09:27] <underdog5004> !fr
[09:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:28] <jennie> any one here running kubuntu on mac PPC G4?
[09:28] <underdog5004> nope
[09:28] <underdog5004> what's the problem?
[09:28] <underdog5004> and are you a real girl?
[09:28] <jennie> trying to get flash working
[09:29] <jennie> i gather the arch isnt similar
[09:29] <jennie> yes i am why do you ask?
[09:29] <underdog5004> hmmm, I don't know that that'll work, since Flash was only compiled for x86 procs
[09:29] <jennie> as i suspected
[09:29] <underdog5004> just unusual
[09:29] <underdog5004> generally girl names in here are guys who can't get help if their name is a guy name
[09:30] <jennie> ok
[09:30] <underdog5004> I've seen it happen
[09:30] <jennie> why do they bother
[09:30] <underdog5004> cause girls get more attention (in here just like any other place)
[09:31] <underdog5004> I know I did when I was on my gf's computer...her sn was sarah, and people were helping me all over the place!
[09:31] <jennie> how do you set the ver so it doesnt show isit /set ver +x
[09:31] <jennie> ?
[09:31] <jennie> lol
[09:31] <underdog5004> hmmm
[09:31] <underdog5004> isit? what are you talking about?
[09:31] <jennie> well my boyfriend is pretty gpoood wwith computers and i am learning as he teaches me heaps
[09:32] <jennie> how to stop the version ctcp on xchat
[09:32] <underdog5004> ah, I don't know...anything about that
[09:32] <underdog5004> sorry
[09:33] <Hobbsee> underdog5004: stop saying rubbish.
[09:33] <underdog5004> sorry for saying rubbish, everyone.
[09:33] <Hobbsee> (the girl comments)
[09:34] <prak> Lynoure: are you still there?
[09:34] <vge> i dont have a trashcan in my desctop T_T
[09:34] <underdog5004> Hobbsee, it's true, though
[09:34] <underdog5004> girls get more attention than guys do in here
[09:34] <Jucato> underdog5004: not true
[09:34] <Lynoure> prak: Yes
[09:34] <Hobbsee> underdog5004: they get unwanted attention.  no matter if you're a guy or girl, if you act responsibly, you'll get attention
[09:34] <Lynoure> prak: (or rather, I came back once you said my name)
[09:34] <Hobbsee> the usual suggestions apply like googling first, asking a question with enough info, etc.
[09:35] <Jucato> for one, we don't actually ask people if they're a girl or not
[09:35] <underdog5004> I didn't. I asked if she was a _real_ girl
[09:35] <prak> Lynoure: I've installed opensched, but I can't open it in /usr/bin/ or using konsole
[09:35] <underdog5004> but I get the point. I'll shut up now
[09:35] <Jucato> vge: Kubuntu doesn't put one by default iirc
[09:35] <prak> is there an alternative program or is there something i have to do in order to open opensched?
[09:35] <Lynoure> underdog5004: are you a real dog?
[09:35] <prak> Lynoure:
[09:36] <underdog5004> uh...maybe
[09:36] <vge> Jucato: i know, and all that trash was spoken (bad joke)
[09:36] <Lynoure> prak: Like I said, I have never tried opensched...
[09:36] <Hobbsee> underdog5004: girls dont exist on the intarweb.  http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27
[09:36] <Jucato> vge: hm.. ok.... :)
[09:36] <prak> ok
[09:38] <Lynoure> prak: http://opensched.sourceforge.net/ could help
[09:44] <prak> Lynoure: ok
[09:44] <prak> Lynoure: i just found out from the screenshot that opensched is not what i want anyway
[09:44] <Henning3> Hi. Is it possible to use WPA2-PSK with Kubuntu 6.10? The WLAN-assistant does only understand WEP right now.
[09:44] <Lynoure> prak: Tried planner yet?
[09:45] <prak> no
[09:45] <prak> i'm not sure how to open planner
[09:45] <Jucato> !kplato
[09:45] <ubotu> kplato: an integrated project management and planning tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 844 kB, installed size 2764 kB
[09:46] <prak> Lynoure: installing planner right now
[09:46] <prak> !planner
[09:46] <ubotu> planner: project management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3044 kB, installed size 6716 kB
[09:48] <pirothezero> Henning|afk:  do you live in cl?
[09:53] <deathnote> hi i got a question of ssh.. how do i change the default port 22 to other ports ?
[09:53] <deathnote> so that i open up a *secret* port for outside world to ssh in
[09:53] <deathnote> my port 22 works already
[09:53] <underdog5004> deathnote, might wanna look at /etc/sshd_config
[09:54] <deathnote> can i listen for more than 1 port?
[09:54] <deathnote> what are the ports that i can use for ssh? i scare it comflict with other applcations... like i can't use 8080 ?
[09:55] <underdog5004> there are so many I doubt you'll conflict with any...but give it a shot
[09:56] <josh415> you can use any port you like, but look in /etc/services for ones to skip.
[09:56] <underdog5004> thanks, josh415, I know next to nothing about ssh
[09:56] <josh415> np
[09:57] <josh415> you can use things in /etc/services commonly reserved for other apps, but you'll just be going against convention.
[09:57] <Erunno> Don't take ports beneath/equal 1023 and some ports higher than that are also taken. Just take one in the 50000 range and you should be safe
[09:58] <deathnote> ok...say i want to use port 30
[09:58] <deathnote> do i need to put it into /etc/service ?
[09:58] <deathnote> do i need to put it into /etc/services ?
[09:59] <Erunno> Don't take ports from that range as it is reserved by the IANA(?) guys
[09:59] <kristjan_> how do I configure swappiness?
[10:00] <Erunno> Here's a list with commonly used ports: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
[10:01] <Erunno> kristjan: Do you mean the swap file ?
[10:01] <deathnote> ok if i want to use port 30
[10:01] <deathnote> for ssh
[10:01] <deathnote> i must add a line in /etc/services ?
[10:01] <deathnote> and when will it take effect? after reboot?
[10:01] <josh415> no, you don't have to edit /etc/services.
[10:01] <josh415> it'll take effect when you start sshd.
[10:02] <josh415> there's little benefit in using port 30 though.
[10:02] <deathnote> oh
[10:02] <deathnote> what's the ssh command to ssh using a specific port ?
[10:02] <josh415> if you don't want to use 22, use something more obscure like something very high.
[10:02] <deathnote> oic
[10:02] <deathnote> let me see..
[10:02] <josh415> ssh -p
[10:03] <josh415> good luck.
[10:04] <kristjan_> Erunno: yes swap file, it used too much with ext3 file system
[10:04] <kristjan_> Erunno: swap went rarely into use with reiserfs
[10:05] <Erunno> kristjan: What do you want to change anyway ?
[10:06] <kristjan_> Erunno: I want system to use less swap
[10:11] <saree> how come i cant identify my self?
[10:18] <underdog5004> whoa...netsplit
[10:42] <Henning3> Hi. Is it possible to use WPA2-PSK with Kubuntu 6.10? The WLAN-assistant does only understand WEP right now.
[10:50] <sigmoun> salut
[11:01] <_eMaX_> re
[11:01] <_eMaX_> after apt-get upgrade he tries to update-initramfs. Yet he does that on a initrd which I don't want him to update (it doesn't even exist). Where is configured which rd he is going to udpate?
[11:05] <deathnote> hi
[11:05] <deathnote> where is trash:/ ?
[11:06] <deathnote> i couldn't find it
[11:06] <_eMaX_> it is nowhere here.
[11:06] <deathnote> where is the directory?
[11:06] <dwidmann> deathnote: it's a KIO-Slave
[11:06] <deathnote> i wanna clear the thrash from a console
[11:06] <deathnote> what's the path for it?
[11:06] <deathnote> *trash
[11:06] <dwidmann> That is the path, it points to a real directory, let me see where it was ....
[11:07] <deathnote> real directory...where where?
[11:07] <dwidmann> shouldn't be a problem if all you want to do is clear it, but you can only access the metadata &c from konqueror
[11:07] <dwidmann> ~/.local/share/Trash/
[11:08] <dwidmann> I think
[11:08] <deathnote> AHHHHHHHHHHHh gd
[11:08] <deathnote> thanks
[11:08] <dwidmann> no problem
[11:08] <deathnote> i don't like it to act like a recycle bin in windows
[11:08] <benjamin_> hi all, is there a text2speech software that reads highligted text anywere on the desktop?
[11:09] <dwidmann> deathnote: well, it is sometimes kinda handy to be able to restore stuff you didn't want to delete
[11:09] <dwidmann> Saved my butt too many times ...
[11:10] <deathnote> i don't really use konqueror.. use console most of the time
[11:10] <dwidmann> benjamin_: I remember having played with one once, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was called
[11:10] <cpk1> i think its ktts
[11:11] <chavo> yeah it's ktts
[11:11] <cpk1> K Text To Speech, dunno if it reads highlighted stuff from the desktop, you would have to play around with it I suppose
[11:11] <benjamin_> yes thanks: http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/
[11:11] <Jucato> !kttsd
[11:11] <ubotu> kttsd: a Text-to-Speech system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1925 kB, installed size 3940 kB
[11:12] <dwidmann> deathnote: I use konqueror quite a bit - see this screenshot for the reason (best of both worlds?) http://images.xnowherex.net/konq-shot.jpg.... I also have a shortcut to bringing that up assigned to the '`' key :)
[11:13] <cpk1> dwidmann: how do you do that?
[11:14] <dwidmann> I know in Kubuntu it's kind of buried. I had to "uncripple" Konqueror to get it back in the menu, anyhow, bring up the "configure -> shortcuts" first
[11:14] <Jucato> how do you do what?
[11:14] <cpk1> tie in a terminal to konq
[11:15] <dwidmann> Set :"show terminal emulator" to a decent shortcut, then press it
[11:15] <Jucato> it's F8 by default
[11:15] <dwidmann> Is it?
[11:15] <dwidmann> maybe that's why I changed it ... I always hated the F keys
[11:15] <cpk1> yeah
[11:15] <Jucato> yep. unless, by some unknown and mysterious cosmic force, it was changed in Kubuntu
[11:15] <cpk1> it is
[11:15] <cpk1> cool
[11:15] <cpk1> that is awesome
[11:16] <Jucato> F4 opens up Konsole in a separate window
[11:16] <cpk1> it is so much easier navigating with cd
[11:16] <Jucato> but in the same directory
[11:16] <cpk1> but I like using the gui for some stuff
[11:16] <dwidmann> :) Like I said, best of both worlds hehehe
[11:17] <cpk1> wait, it doesnt sync up with the gui though?
[11:17] <Jucato> nope
[11:17] <dwidmann> It does
[11:17] <Jucato> only one way sync
[11:17] <dwidmann> to some extent anyway
[11:17] <dwidmann> Well, the GUI doesn't sync with the Konsole
[11:17] <cpk1> bah
[11:17] <Jucato> which was his question :D
[11:17] <dwidmann> it does the other way around though
[11:18] <dwidmann> I think Kate is the same way
[11:18] <cpk1> boo it would be so much cooler if it synced with konsole
[11:18] <Jucato> although in Kate, you don't navigate through folders
[11:18] <Jucato> much
[11:18] <dwidmann> Indeed
[11:18] <cpk1> but it still is nifty
[11:18] <cpk1> well I learned something tonight =D
[11:18] <Jucato> take notes... there are still lots to learn :)
[11:19] <Jucato> I'm not finished either :D
[11:19] <dwidmann> Is anyone ever? I think not
[11:19] <Jucato> well, dead people are done learning :)
[11:20] <cpk1> well that's a fun little thing, I might need to work it into my current setup
[11:20] <cpk1> I noticed that konq doesnt seem to like to be open forever though
[11:21] <Jucato> until I shutdown, that is
[11:21] <cpk1> mine started to go all crazy when I had it opened for about a week
[11:21] <cpk1> I returned its sanity by closing it and then starting it again
[11:21] <_eMaX_> in apt-get upgrade I see some packages which were held back. How can I install them?
[11:21] <cpk1> aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:21] <Jucato> or apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:22] <dwidmann> I've not got it open forever, but I have several copies preloaded .... so at least it opens instantly
[11:22] <cpk1> I'm an aptitude evangelisist =P
[11:22] <_eMaX_> cpk1: Jucato: thanks
[11:22] <underdog5004> synaptic ftw!
[11:23] <Jucato> cpk1: I'm an aptitude user. but in some cases apt-get might be more advisable, unless you know the proper aptitude switches
[11:23] <Jucato> like -R
[11:23] <underdog5004> except when you're in a CLI only environment
[11:23] <_eMaX_> ne1 here has beryl working on an ati card? I get no window borders when I chose beryl as window manager
[11:23] <cpk1> I prefer -r Jucato =P
[11:23] <Jucato> _eMaX_: install aquamarine and choose it as your window decoration
[11:24] <_eMaX_> wow
[11:24] <Zyrkon> try beryl-manager
[11:24] <Jucato> cpk1: I prefer the capital :P
[11:24] <_eMaX_> Jucato: among the exactly 47237521prescriptions I've tried from the net, this is a new one :)
[11:24] <cpk1> the thing that I really love about aptitude is purge ~C
[11:24] <Zyrkon> and switch on the "force nvidia"-switch within it, if you are running nvidia
[11:24] <Jucato> _eMaX_: which one?
[11:24] <_eMaX_> Zyrkon: as I said I'm using ati
[11:24] <Zyrkon> else one of the other forces, so it's running smoth
[11:24] <_eMaX_> Jucato: using aquamarine
[11:25] <Jucato> _eMaX_: it's worth a try. it's rumored to work better on KDE than emerald
[11:25] <_eMaX_> beryl just crashes and falls back to kwin.
[11:25] <_eMaX_> If I tell him to stay with himself, as I said, no window borders
[11:25] <Jucato> _eMaX_: if Beryl crashes, the problem might be deeper though
[11:26] <Jucato> cpk1: I'm afraid I don't know the ~C switch
[11:26] <_eMaX_> ok I'll give Jucato's idea using aquamarine another go, then I'll ditch it for the moment :)
[11:26] <cpk1> Jucato: ~C is all packages that were uninstalled but not purged
[11:26] <dwidmann> :O
[11:26] <shriphani> has anyone successfully run an ipod video with kubuntu
[11:26] <cpk1> so purge ~C is a great way of cleaning out clutter
[11:26] <dwidmann> ~C sounds handy
[11:26] <_eMaX_> first I'm getting a new kernel image here, then I'll install aquamarine
[11:27] <_eMaX_> Jucato: did you create a new /usr/bin/start-whatever.sh to preload Xgl or did you stay with the default X?
[11:27] <cpk1> there's a purge-unused?
[11:27] <cpk1> >>
[11:27] <cpk1> << aptitude is alot more complex then people give it credit for
[11:28] <Jucato> cpk1: yes. it seems that '~' is used to mean that the word/letter after it will be used as a search pattern
[11:28] <`Z`> poy
[11:28] <Jucato> _eMaX_: I forgot. I just followed the Beryl wiki
[11:28] <_eMaX_> ok
[11:28] <Jucato> _eMaX_: oh, and I'm on nvidia... sorry
[11:28] <_eMaX_> hrmpf
[11:29] <Jucato> cpk1: that's --purge-unused
[11:29] <shriphani> well can we sync videos to ipods using amarok ?
[11:29] <Jucato> cpk1: did you also know that aptitude keeps it's own, human-readable log of any and all actions?
[11:29] <cpk1> Jucato: I knew it "remembered" didnt know there was a readable log for it
[11:30] <Jucato> cpk1: check /var/log/aptitude
[11:30] <_eMaX_> and just yesterday I found out that I figure near the top, if not right at the top of list of the most stupid people on this planed in that I for one year was using my laptop at 800 MHz only, as linux wasn't able to scale it up to 2.1 GHz because I had not set it to "High Speed" in the bios.
[11:30] <cpk1> I'm telling you it irks me when I see all these people and walkthroughs saying to use apt-get when aptitude has a lot more capabilities
[11:30] <cpk1> rofl
[11:30] <Jucato> cpk1: there's one "catch" to that aptitude remember metapackages and dependencies
[11:31] <Jucato> you always have to run update before install... otherwise the "magic" doesn't work
[11:31] <Jucato> also, sometimes, the "magic" doesn't work at all
[11:31] <_eMaX_> brb
[11:32] <shriphani> Jucato: have you synced videos using amarok
[11:32] <cpk1> Jucato: eh? I have noticed that when I remove a metapackage thats all that gets removed...
[11:32] <Jucato> shriphani: I don't have an ipod or a portable player. sorry
[11:33] <shriphani> oh
[11:33] <Jucato> cpk1: you can try next time. specially if there's a long gap between when you installed and when you will remove
[11:33] <shriphani> cuz i again have to go and get a gtk based app for it
[11:34] <cpk1> shriphani: amarok doesnt put videos in the collection manager so not sure how that would work, also I think you would need svn amarok since they just now started implementing video
[11:34] <shriphani> oh
[11:34] <cpk1> it might not have even made it to svn yet
[11:34] <shriphani> so i need to compile amarok i suppose
[11:35] <Jucato> shriphani: try #amarok for more detailed questions/answers
[11:35] <cpk1> read the changelog and see if its in there or not yet
[11:36] <shriphani> ok thx
[11:44] <julle> !backup
[11:44] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:49] <Demonseed> Hey, do you guys reccoment installing kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu or KDE packages hand selected?
[11:49] <Demonseed> reccomend*
[11:49] <goban> hi, in all KDE apps i get an error saying "cannot talk to klauncher" whenever i try to do anything external (im in ubuntu)
[11:50] <yves_> Bonjour
[11:50] <goban> any ideas how to fix?
[11:50] <Demonseed> Sorry goban, nah.
[11:51] <Demonseed> Try #KDE.
[11:51] <yves_> Hi, i m new in linux :)
[11:51] <yves_> I need more help :)
[11:52] <`Z`> tell me want do you want to know ^^
[11:52] <`Z`> ( in basic english please, i'm french so =) )
[11:52] <underdog5004> !fr
[11:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:52] <`Z`> underdog5004, i know that oO
[11:52] <Jucato> goban: can you check if kdelibs4c2a is installed?
[11:53] <Demonseed> cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc cDc
[11:53] <`Z`> but, a french isn
[11:53] <Stratr3kf> !request dogsex
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request dogsex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <Stratr3kf> !file dogsex
[11:53] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[11:53] <`Z`> allow to be on a english chan ?
[11:53] <Demonseed> !request cDc
[11:53] <Jucato> Demonseed: please stop that
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request cdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <Stratr3kf> !file beast
[11:53] <Demonseed> !request god
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <Demonseed> !request STFU KTHX
[11:53] <Stratr3kf> !request god sex
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request god sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
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[11:53] <Stratr3kf> wrong chan?
[11:53] <Demonseed> !request lulz
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request lulz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
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[11:53] <Stratr3kf> wjays that
[11:54] <Demonseed> ccccccccccDDDDDDDDDDDDDDccccccccccccccc
[11:54] <Demonseed> cDc
[11:54] <Demonseed> cDc
[11:54] <Demonseed> cDc
[11:54] <Demonseed> sdds
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[11:54] <Demonseed> dsa
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[11:54] <waylandbill> bring down the hammer Jucato. :-)
[11:55] <Jucato> goban: did you check if kdelibs4c2a is installed?
[11:55] <OracleGD> My, that was interesting. I'm out.
[11:56] <_eMaX_> Jucato: you rock
[11:57] <goban> Jucato: IT IS NOW :)
[11:57] <goban> oops caps loc sorry
[11:57] <Jucato> heh...
[11:57] <Jucato> goban: no more errors?
[11:57] <goban> kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found
[11:57] <Jucato> hmm.... new one eh...
[11:58] <Angel[FR] > bonjour tlm ya des francais ici ?????????????
[11:58] <Jucato> !fr | Angel[FR] 
[11:58] <ubotu> Angel[FR] : Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:58] <goban> ktorrent: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher
[11:58] <Jucato> ouch..
[11:58] <Jucato> hm... ktorrent eh...
[11:58] <goban> also note: konversation messes up alot too so its not just ktorrent
[11:58] <Angel[FR] > merci ubotu mais je fais comment ? (j'ai install Linux ce matin lol)
[11:58] <goban> i cant click on links for examble :(
[11:59] <Angel[FR] > ah c'est bon merci il suffit de cliker
[11:59] <Angel[FR] > merci beaucoup ++
[11:59] <Jucato> goban: what happens when you click on links?
[11:59] <Angel[FR] > bonjour !
[11:59] <goban> konversation error: Cannot talk to klauncher
[11:59] <Jucato> hm...
[11:59] <Jucato> goban: can you check if klauncher is running. if not, please run it :)
[12:00] <_eMaX_> Jucato: really. you really rock.
[12:00] <_eMaX_> :)
[12:00] <_eMaX_> that hint with aquamarine was excellent
[12:00] <dplab> xchat#cybermohalla
[12:00] <Jucato> oh kool
[12:00] <goban> nope its not! hehe
[12:00] <Jucato> goban: :D
[12:00] <goban> klauncher: This program is not supposed to be started manually.
[12:00] <goban> klauncher: It is started automatically by kdeinit.
[12:00] <_eMaX_> oh it was even not that
[12:00] <goban> thats ok right
[12:01] <_eMaX_> it was the fact that I was just using fglrx and have now learned that I can use the open source ati driver
[12:01] <_eMaX_> :)
[12:01] <Jucato> _eMaX_: oh yeah... rumor has it that the open source ati driver is far better than the proprietary one
[12:01] <goban> Jucato: its still not in running processes, how do i start it?
[12:01] <goban> restart x?
[12:01] <_eMaX_> What I wonder is there somewhere a consistent list of keystrokes for beryl? for example, I can ctrl+alt+left/right to change sides, yet I have not seen how to show the entire cube
[12:01] <Jucato> goban: hm...
[12:01] <Jucato> goban: try to run kdeinit?
[12:02] <cpk1> restart kdm maybe?
[12:02] <Jucato> cpk1: he's on Ubuntu
[12:02] <cpk1> O.o
[12:02] <Jucato> trying to make KTorrent and Konversation run on Ubuntu...
[12:02] <Jucato> eventually he'll see the folly of his ways and switch to Kubuntu :D
[12:02] <Jucato> j/k
[12:02] <cpk1> =D
[12:02] <_eMaX_> Jucato: what is the "Super" key referenced in the beryl settings manager?
[12:03] <goban> kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : googleearth.desktop
[12:03] <goban> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[12:03] <Jucato> goban: that's oke
[12:03] <Jucato> ok*
[12:03] <Jucato> _eMaX_: usually the Win key
[12:03] <goban> good :)
[12:03] <_eMaX_> damn and if I don't have a win key? :)
[12:03] <Jucato> _eMaX_: not sure lol sorry
[12:04] <_eMaX_> lol :) Thinkpads come w/o win key
[12:04] <goban> ah NOW its there :) thanks lets see if it works
[12:04] <Jucato> _eMaX_: I don't have a lappy... so...
[12:04] <Jucato> and most of the laptops I've seen have win keys...
[12:04] <goban> hurray! works Jucato!!!! :) realllyy slow though
[12:05] <Jucato> well, at least it works :D
[12:05] <Jucato> to get the full experience, please consider Kubuntu :D
[12:05] <Jucato> j/k
[12:05] <goban> yeah :)) hurray
[12:05] <goban> Jucato: i just started using linux a few days ago, whats different in kubuntu
[12:05] <goban> and will beryl still work? its amazing
[12:06] <Jucato> goban: Kubuntu uses KDE
[12:06] <Jucato> !kubuntu
[12:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:06] <Jucato> !kde
[12:06] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:06] <goban> will gnome-based applications still work?
[12:06] <Jucato> yep. I have the GIMP and Firefox and GRAMPS here
[12:06] <cpk1> and all the cool apps like amarok and konversation and kmail use QT libs =P
[12:06] <waylandbill> goban: kubuntu will make you rich and a chick magnet if you use it. j/k.. KDE. :-)
[12:07] <goban> hahah k ill install it tonite
[12:07] <Jucato> goban: it all depends on really how much KDE vs GNOME apps you use, and which desktop you really prefer
[12:08] <cpk1> the only place where you might start to notice a difference is if you have low memory and prefer gnome apps then you might not want to switch to kde since you will basically always have 2 libraries loaded which can be a lot for someone with almost no ram
[12:11] <berker> Hi everybody
[12:11] <berker> I need urgent help about the resulation..
[12:12] <berker> everything was working fine, but i power on my computer and resulotion is 480*640 now...
[12:13] <berker> I restarted it but doesn't work
[12:13] <cpk1> berker: have you looked at xorg.conf?
[12:13] <berker> everything is huge on the screen
[12:13] <berker> xorg.conf?
[12:13] <berker> How?
[12:14] <Jucato> !xconfig
[12:14] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[12:14] <berker> I checked the system settings, its 480*640..
[12:14] <berker> it was 1024 before
[12:14] <berker> ok
[12:14] <momal> What can burn files larger then 4gb on dual layer dvds? Seems k3b wont let me even after changing it to udf.. and nero for linux just freezes changing it to udf.
[12:15] <cpk1> momal: k3b doesnt know its dual layer when you do disk info?
[12:16] <berker> it says please enter the video cards bus identifier...
[12:16] <berker> what is that?
[12:16] <momal> cpk1: it says double layer and says it has 2 layers.. and I switch the size to 8.0gb from 4.4gb, but it says can't add files over 4gb when i try to add them >_<
[12:18] <berker> ?
[12:19] <henning> Hi. Could anyone please help me setting up a WPA2-PSK WLAN connection? I installed knetworkmanager, but it doesn't work.
[12:19] <underdog5004> henning, I'm not sure, and I'm running low on sleep, but I think you need a specific module to use WPA2
[12:19] <_eMaX_> Jucato: one other question (if I may) - if I am "turning the cube" (works here with the middle mouse key), I see that the upper and lower panes are just showing the beryl emerald. Is there a way to attach a desktop to these, too?
[12:19] <underdog5004> make sure your card supports it
[12:19] <underdog5004> _eMaX_, no, there is not
[12:20] <henning> my card supports it, do I have to install a different driver?
[12:20] <underdog5004> _eMaX_, you can put a different pic up there if you like
[12:20] <underdog5004> henning, no idea, I just keep my network open, that way if the RIAA or MPAA come by, I can tell them I've got an open network, and anyone could have downloaded those songs and movies.
[12:20] <_eMaX_> underdog5004: how that?
[12:20] <henning> it shows my WLAN using WEP, but I don't use WEP, I use WPA2
[12:20] <cpk1> rofl
[12:20] <underdog5004> _eMaX_, somewhere under Beryl Manager
[12:21] <henning> ah ok
[12:21] <henning> thank you
[12:21] <_eMaX_> underdog5004: I try to figure out how to a) get more than 4 workspaces and b) how to not see all minimized windows from all workspaces in my task bar
[12:21] <berker> cpk1 -   What should i do?
[12:22] <underdog5004> _eMaX_, just poke around, check beryl-project.com, or google around
[12:22] <berker> everything is huge on the screen...
[12:22] <_eMaX_> tnx
[12:23] <cpk1> berker: do 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and pastebin the output
[12:23] <cpk1> !pastebin | berker
[12:23] <ubotu> berker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <berker> ok
[12:25] <berker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7778/
[12:26] <berker> Ok?
[12:26] <berker> Can you see what is wrong?
[12:28] <cpk1> yes, you only have 640x480 in your xorg
[12:28] <cpk1> and i didnt think that ubuntu used modelines either...
[12:28] <gioacchino> hello
[12:28] <gioacchino> I have a big problem with samba
[12:28] <berker> what should i do then?
[12:29] <berker> but it was working fine this morning.
[12:29] <gioacchino> I have share some folder in media/sda6/direcory
[12:29] <cpk1> berker: do you only have one video card and monitor?
[12:29] <berker> yes
[12:29] <gioacchino> but when I try to open it tell me
[12:29] <berker> Laptop
[12:30] <gioacchino> "dir not exist"
[12:30] <cpk1> then yeah sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is probably your best bet, your conf looks all messed up
[12:30] <berker> I just switched off and watched a movie. Then i opened it again, resulotion dropped to 640
[12:30] <gioacchino> help em please
[12:30] <berker> hmm
[12:31] <berker> ok
[12:31] <berker> i will try to do but it askes me questions that i dont know
[12:32] <berker> can i ask you the ones i dont know?
[12:32] <cpk1> gioacchino: try to open it from the host or what?
[12:32] <gioacchino> yes I try to open it from the ost
[12:32] <gioacchino> *host
[12:33] <cpk1> gioacchino: so cd /media/sda6/ doesnt work?
[12:33] <gioacchino> when I go in the folder smb://server/Ale_Max_8GB
[12:33] <berker> cpk1 -  it said  "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
 gioacchino: so cd /media/sda6/ doesnt work?  It now work because I had change  with chown
[12:34] <cpk1> !aptfix
[12:34] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:34] <gioacchino> sda6 not a cd but a fat32 partition
[12:34] <cpk1> berker: do those commands that ubotu jost posted
[12:35] <berker> not working, still says its locked
[12:35] <gioacchino> initially sda6 not work because the owner was root
[12:36] <gioacchino> but I had change it with chown and now my user is owner of sda6 and subfolder
[12:38] <gioacchino> cpk1 pvt
[12:38] <cpk1> so it sounds like it works now gioacchino
[12:39] <gioacchino> yes  it work now with user gioacchino
[12:39] <weedar> When browsing files to upload firefox also shows .files, can I prevent this somehow? They don't show on my other computer
[12:39] <gioacchino> but konqueror crash whe I try to set option from konqueror
[12:40] <gioacchino> cpk1 pvt
[12:40] <cpk1> set what option?
[12:40] <cpk1> samba doesnt automagically work
[12:41] <gioacchino> set what option? I use root shell tu set option
[12:41] <cpk1> [03:39:52]  <gioacchino> but konqueror crash whe I try to set option from konqueror
[12:41] <gioacchino> because konqueror crash when I tray to modify option of a folder
[12:41] <gioacchino> for all fokder
[12:43] <berker> it crashed!
[12:43] <berker> :(
[12:44] <cpk1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will probably work now then =P
[12:46] <berker> What is video card's bus identifier??
[12:46] <berker> it asks that
[12:46] <cpk1> i'm assuming PCI:1:0:0 since thats what it said in your old xorg
[12:46] <berker> ok
[12:52] <SlimWickman> I was wondering why konqueror takes so long to look up websites?
[12:53] <cpk1> because your internet is slow? I havent had any problems like that...
[12:54] <berker> ok i did it cpk1
[12:54] <berker> what should i do now...
[12:54] <berker> restart?
[12:54] <SlimWickman> no its fast
[12:55] <cpk1> berker: no, log out and then press ctrl alt backspace
[12:55] <berker> ok
[12:55] <SlimWickman> I had slow dns lookup with firefox-ubuntu as well
[12:56] <kezman> a program of a install manager
[12:56] <kezman> ?
[12:56] <kezman> please help
[12:58] <comosicus> ned help with gaim mess?
[12:58] <comosicus> i'm begginer in linux
[12:59] <comosicus> 2 days of linux
[01:00] <comosicus> i have a id in spain and gaim told me that the language is not suported for that id
[01:00] <comosicus> what a can do?
[01:00] <comosicus> somebody?!
[01:00] <Skrot> What's your ID, and what protocol (msn, icq, etc) are you trying to use?
[01:01] <comosicus> comosicus26 is my id and msn
[01:01] <Skrot> comosicus: Would you mind trying it in kopete? Since I use kubuntu/KDE i'm not used to Gaim
[01:01] <comosicus> i'm from romania
[01:02] <Skrot> Kopete is KDE's instant-messaging client, and it supports lots of protocols, including MSN :)
[01:02] <comosicus> where do i find it
[01:02] <Skrot> You can download it using adept, or "sudo aptitude install kopete" in a terminal/konsole
[01:03] <comosicus> k
[01:03] <Skrot> comosicus: Are you using KDE (kubuntu) or Gnome (ubuntu) btw?
[01:03] <comosicus> gnome
[01:03] <Skrot> ah, then you should probably ask in #ubuntu -- they'll have a better idea about gaim than here
[01:04] <bumzo> hi pple
[01:04] <bumzo> jucato?
[01:04] <bumzo> how do i instal a .deb file?
[01:04] <comosicus> yes i see where i 'm now
[01:04] <Skrot> sudo dpkg -i foobar.deb
[01:04] <gioacchino> how to change permission on a fat32 partition ??
[01:04] <yaccin> bumzo: rightclick on it and select isntall from the kubuntu package menu
[01:04] <Skrot> gioacchino: Is it mounted by fstab and you want your user to have write-rights to it?
[01:04] <bumzo> it gave me an error message
[01:05] <Danker> Hi
[01:05] <yaccin> what error message?
[01:05] <busfahrer> Excuse me, what do I have to do so that Konquerer displays Umlauts (special German characters) in Filenames correctly? (and I dont want anything switched to German language)
[01:05] <Danker> How to change screen resolution from command line?
[01:05] <yaccin> busfahrer: install language-support-de
[01:06] <busfahrer> yaccin: thanks
[01:06] <bumzo> can i try from termnal?
[01:06] <busfahrer> yaccin: will that switch any languages though? I just want the characters to get displayed correctly
[01:06] <Skrot> bumzo: sudo dpkg -i foobar.deb from terminal
[01:07] <yaccin> busfahrer: i dont think so
  It is automount when I start computer
 I had only read exeutimng permission
[01:07] <Skrot> I see
 I had only read exeutimng permissionbut no write
[01:07] <gioacchino> but I can use root shell
[01:08] <gioacchino> I try with chmod but not work..
[01:08] <Skrot> There is one solution, you can "sudo nano /etc/fstab" and add "uid=1000" (or your users uid) under <options> for that partition
[01:08] <ubuntu_> geogle
[01:08] <Skrot> There's probably a better way, but that's the only one I'm aware of
[01:09] <gioacchino> Skrot: how to paste contents of file ?
[01:10] <gioacchino> Skrot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7783/
[01:10] <gioacchino> the device is sda6 it is fat 32
[01:11] <Skrot> gioacchino:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7784/
[01:12] <bumzo> lemmi try
[01:14] <bumzo> (Reading database ... 81708 files and directories currently installed.)
[01:14] <bumzo> Preparing to replace ymessenger 1.0.4_1 (using ym.deb) ...
[01:14] <bumzo> Unpacking replacement ymessenger ...
[01:14] <bumzo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[01:14] <bumzo>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[01:14] <Jucato> !pastebin  | bumzo
[01:14] <ubotu> bumzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:14] <bumzo>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[01:14] <bumzo>  ymessenger depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:
[01:14] <bumzo>   Package libglib1.2 is not installed.
[01:14] <gioacchino> Skrot:  Ihad modified it and now ?
[01:14] <bumzo>  ymessenger depends on libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:
[01:14] <bumzo>   Package libgtk1.2 is not installed.
[01:15] <bumzo>  ymessenger depends on libssl0.9.6; however:
[01:15] <bumzo>   Package libssl0.9.6 is not installed.
[01:15] <bumzo>  ymessenger depends on xlibs (>> 3.3.6); however:
[01:15] <bumzo>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[01:15] <bumzo> dpkg: error processing ymessenger (--install):
[01:15] <bumzo>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:15] <bumzo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:15] <bumzo>  ymessenger
[01:15] <bumzo> what does that mean (am installing a .deb file
[01:15] <gioacchino> Skrot: now ?
[01:15] <Skrot> gioacchino: sudo umount /media/sda6 and sudo mount /media/sda6
[01:15] <Skrot> Be carefull that you're not reading from /media/sda6 while you do it
[01:16] <jack> hi, how can i by default set that if firestarter starts at dial out, that its window doesnt appear, onlyy the sys tray icon? and how can i set that i am not every session asked for the root password for firestarter?thanks
[01:16] <Jucato> wth...
[01:17] <gioacchino> Skrot:   drwxrwx---  6 gioacchino plugdev 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 sda6
[01:17] <gioacchino> I can write
[01:17] <Skrot> Isn't that what you wanted? :)
[01:17] <gioacchino> Skrot: but samba not work ..
[01:17] <Skrot> And samba used to work?
[01:18] <gioacchino> when I go to smb://server/Ale_Max_8GB
[01:18] <gioacchino> it tell me alemax8gb not exist..
[01:19] <Skrot> hm
[01:19] <gioacchino> for share it I had add in samba.conf
[01:19] <berker> cpk1 ?
[01:20] <berker> it works fine now, but i tried 10 different options from xorg
[01:20] <Skrot> gioacchino: If uid=1000 screwed it up, remove it. I'm not sure what's going on with samba :>
[01:20] <berker> Thank you very much for help
[01:20] <waspius> hello..anyone know how i can setup my touchpad to be able to scroll and enable the tapping?
[01:20] <gioacchino> Skrot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7787/
[01:20] <berker> one more question if you're not bored
[01:20] <berker> :)
[01:21] <berker> How can i play XviD files???
[01:21] <Skrot> !codec
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <berker> I checked every forum i can
[01:21] <Skrot> !xvid
[01:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:21] <berker> I couldn't find any packages
[01:21] <gioacchino> Skrot: no but samba not work after uid
[01:22] <Skrot> gioacchino: Okay, uid sets the disc only writable by you. Remove it, it's probably a bad way to do it anyway :>
[01:22] <gioacchino> ok
[01:22] <cpk1> berker: libxine-extracodecs should be all you need
[01:23] <charles> salut
[01:23] <Skrot> gioacchino: Can you find out which group has the gid 46?
[01:23] <ratilius> hello all, i have a problem with my wireless lan connection, can sb help me?
[01:24] <gioacchino> Skrot:  the group of fat32 partition ?
[01:24] <berker> is it a code?
[01:24] <Skrot> gioacchino: yes. cat /etc/group | grep 46
[01:24] <cpk1> berker: 'sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs'
[01:24] <gioacchino> Skrot: the group is plugdev
[01:24] <Skrot> right
[01:24] <ubuntu_> google
[01:24] <ubuntu_> geogle
[01:24] <gioacchino> root@server:/media# cat /etc/group | grep 46
[01:24] <gioacchino> plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,gioacchino
[01:25] <Skrot> Then you should probably have write-access to the partition?
[01:26] <jack>  hi, how can i by default set that if firestarter starts at dial out, that its window doesnt appear, onlyy the sys tray icon? and how can i set that i am not every session asked for the root password for firestarter?thanks
[01:26] <mefisto__> how long does it take before there is a response to a kde bug being posted?
 Then you should probably have write-access to the partition?  yes
[01:27] <berker> Cpk1 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7788/
[01:27] <cpk1> berker: aptitude show libxine-extracodecs
[01:27] <gioacchino_away> I go to dinner
[01:29] <berker> Cpk1 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7789/
[01:29] <cpk1> berker: then you need to enable multiverse and universe
[01:29] <cpk1> !repos | berker
[01:29] <ubotu> berker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:30] <cpk1> !easysource | berker
[01:30] <ubotu> berker: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:31] <kezman> how i can see what video card i have?
[01:31] <kezman> the command?
[01:34] <waylandbill> kezman: lspci
[01:34] <hw> kezman: you could use lspci
[01:35] <Jucato> lspci | grep -i vga
[01:35] <elbing> I've got a car. When I bought it I forgot to ask vendor about its engine, how could I look at it?
[01:36] <berker> what should i do know
[01:36] <berker> its main restricted as before
[01:37] <berker> nothing changed
[01:39] <berker> cpk1 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7792/
[01:42] <berker> ??
[01:43] <gioacchino> Skrot: can you trasfer to me your samba .conf ?
[01:43] <A-L-A-R-M>  hello. does the deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse (repo) include also deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted . or they are 2 completely different things ?
[01:43] <A-L-A-R-M> i mean, would the 'restricted' exclude some packages ?
[01:46] <Jucato> A-L-A-R-M: the "deb" repository holds the binary/installable packages, while the "deb-src" repository holds the source code for those packages
[01:46] <A-L-A-R-M> i know that.
[01:46] <A-L-A-R-M> ohh sorry copied 2 wrong things
[01:46] <A-L-A-R-M> i meant . also deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main r
[01:46] <A-L-A-R-M> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[01:47] <berker> Elbing - I cant write to you i'm not registered
[01:47] <A-L-A-R-M> if the first repo includes the second
[01:47] <elbing> ah ok
[01:47] <berker> i'm trying to install XviD codecs
[01:47] <elbing> you can read?
[01:47] <elbing> err can you read me?
[01:47] <berker> yes i can
[01:47] <elbing> ok :p
[01:47] <elbing> in somewhere of your linux one aptitude or more are running, kill them
[01:47] <A-L-A-R-M> for example i got: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse , and deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted . and i dont know whats the difference .
[01:48] <A-L-A-R-M> if the first repo includes more packages, or the second does .
[01:48] <Jucato> A-L-A-R-M: the second is a duplicate of the first one (main and restricted)
[01:49] <Jucato> A-L-A-R-M: each repository (edgy, edgy-security, edgy-updates, edgy-backports) is divided into 4 components: main, restricted, universe, and multiverse
[01:49] <berker> Elbing - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7793/
[01:49] <A-L-A-R-M> i dont have both in the sources.list i just want to create a complete repo actually. so iam trying to compine them somehow. but dont know what to remove from my sources.list file and what to leave like that
[01:49] <yaccin> A-L-A-R-M: first one should be enough, you dont need the last one
[01:49] <yaccin> !sources.list
[01:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:49] <berker> which one?
[01:49] <Jucato> A-L-A-R-M: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse" means that you have access to all 4 of those components of the edgy-security repository.
[01:49] <waspius> anyone know how i can see my external harddrive and my windows partition?
[01:50] <Jucato> A-L-A-R-M: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted" means you only have access to 2 components of the edgy-security repository: main and restricted
[01:50] <A-L-A-R-M> so if i would write. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse , would include the packages of deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[01:50] <Jucato> A-L-A-R-M: definitely
[01:50] <A-L-A-R-M> got it. okie. thank you a lot
[01:50] <elbing> berker, you have adept opened. You need close it before run aptitude or your package db will be locked
[01:51] <elbing> pid 5139
[01:51] <berker> ok
[01:51] <A-L-A-R-M> why wouldnt be the multiverse not needed ?
[01:52] <yaccin> wouldnt not o.O
[01:52] <berker> elbing - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7794/
[01:52] <berker> That happened, i can't play XviD files..
[01:52] <Jucato> yaccin: I think he misinterpreted your "you don't need the last one" statement earlier
[01:53] <A-L-A-R-M> and a last question. writing two lines. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse  and deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe, would be the same (normaly as writing) deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse universe . or i got it wrong
[01:53] <yaccin> berker: libxine-extracodecs are for mp3 playback
[01:53] <yaccin> divx is in w32-codecs
[01:53] <yaccin> !w32
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <yaccin> !w32-codecs
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <yaccin> !w32codecs
[01:54] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:54] <yaccin> !codecs
[01:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <Jucato> yaccin: divx is in libxine-extracodecs
[01:54] <Jucato> yaccin: and libxine-extracodecs is not for mp3 only
[01:54] <yaccin> o.O
[01:55] <yaccin> okeee
[01:55] <berker> so what should i do?
[01:55] <elbing> berker, maybe http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy will solve all your problems during two months ;)
[01:55] <Jucato> it also installs the codecs that lets you play MPEG, AVI, and AAC
[01:55] <elbing> (including XviD)
[01:55] <berker> I searched from Adept for extra codecs but there is nothing
[01:55] <yaccin> No candidate version found for libxine-extracodecs
[01:55] <yaccin> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[01:55] <yaccin> thats why ^^
[01:56] <yaccin> !mp3
[01:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:56] <yaccin> hm
[01:56] <berker> so how can i install it
[01:56] <yaccin> !libxine-extracodecs
[01:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[01:56] <elbing> well I can't remember exactly what packages but ubotu says you much better than me about issues in multimedia world
[01:57] <yaccin> berker: enable multiverse repo
[01:57] <berker> how?
[01:57] <Jucato> !multiverse
[01:57] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:57] <elbing> I've got xine, gstreamer, mplayer and other midi programs for me and I've got no troubles viewing all video formats (except apple that needs more time)
[01:57] <berker> its main restricted
[01:58] <elbing> uncomment multiverse  in your sources.list
[01:59] <elbing> in hbuntuguide.org as I said you, you can find explanation about how to add repos
[01:59] <elbing> (and what repos)
[01:59] <elbing> s/hbuntuguide/ubuntuguide
[02:00] <Eyeless> is there a way to force konqueror to always default to the treeview-viewmode?
[02:00] <berker> i did it mate, nothing changed, i read the website you sent me and did what it says
[02:01] <Jucato> Eyeless: switch to treeview mode, then Settings -> Save View Profile
[02:02] <mefisto__> is there a specific kubuntu form? Or is it all one forum for ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, etc?
[02:02] <Eyeless> Jucato: i have already done thet, but it still ocasionaly shows those huge fugly "icon view" icons. When accessing a thumbdrive for example
[02:03] <Jucato> oh...
[02:03] <mefisto__> Eyeless: I have the answer to this. (I hated the default too)
[02:03] <elbing> berker, after editing you sources.list you need to do aptitude update
[02:04] <Eyeless> !rar
[02:04] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:04] <Eyeless> mefisto__: its nice to see that im not alone :P
[02:05] <A-L-A-R-M> what could that error be? gzip: stdin: not in gzip format Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:05] <mefisto__> Eyeless: in konq settings, go to file associations, and in inode > directory (embedding tab) move your preferred view to the top of the list
[02:06] <A-L-A-R-M> while updating the list
[02:06] <waylandbill> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[02:06] <waylandbill> what's that about and how to fix it?
[02:06] <mefisto__> Eyeless: also do that in inode > system directory (assuming you want that)
[02:06] <gioacchino> help help
[02:07] <berker> it says could not open the lock file. Couldn't lock the list directory. Are you root? ...
[02:07] <gioacchino> I have 2 big problem
[02:07] <berker> Unbelivible  Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:07] <Eyeless> mefisto__: nice, ill go at it right away
[02:07] <gioacchino> 1) konqueror crash when I try to modify option of folder
[02:07] <gioacchino> 2)samba not work correct..
[02:08] <crystufer2000> yo
[02:08] <elbing> berker, sudo aptitude update :p
[02:08] <gioacchino> I try to reinstall koqueror
[02:09] <gioacchino> but it not resolve problem
[02:09] <mefisto__> gioacchino: do you have another user to log in to? try it as different user
[02:10] <berker> it still not installing lixine extra codecs...
[02:10] <berker> libxine
[02:10] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  no I ha donly gioacchino user
[02:11] <mefisto__> gioacchino: make a new user (sudo adduser USERNAME), then log in to it and try
[02:12] <gioacchino> and now ?
[02:12] <gioacchino> ok
[02:14] <berker> anyway, thanks for the help. I don't think i could do this...
[02:15] <crystufer2000_> Yay! My system works great!
[02:15] <crystufer2000_> Anyone know a linux analog to auto-gordion-knot?
[02:17] <gioacchino> mefisto__:   it work with test user!
[02:18] <mefisto__> gioacchino: that tells you there is something wrong with your user settings.
[02:18] <mefisto__> gioacchino: does samba work too?
[02:19] <gioacchino> mefisto__:   I try
[02:19] <crystufer2000_> I want to be able to convert and encode video. Does anyone know if there is a good analog to auto-gk in linux?
[02:20] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato you there?
[02:21] <ForgeAus> grrrr brb
[02:25] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  now work
[02:26] <gioacchino> mefisto__:   the computer  autorestart and now work samba and konqueror on user gioacchino but on user test not work communication with su
[02:26] <cntb> !selinux
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  now delete I the test user ?
[02:27] <cntb> Jucato: know how to enable selinux ? dmesg lists disabled on boot
[02:27] <mefisto__> gioacchino: if your old user works and you don't need the new one, yes delete
[02:28] <gioacchino> ok I try
[02:28] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  why inb the new user su not work ?
[02:28] <paolo>  Hi. where can i find an how-to compile a single kernel module (.ko) for a 2.6.17.xx kernel? thnks
[02:29] <Eyeless> what do i need to to to get rarfiles working correctly with konqueror (so i can rightclick on them and select extract here)?
[02:30] <paolo> ciao gioacchino
[02:30] <paolo> ;)
[02:30] <gioacchino> ciao paolo
[02:30] <gioacchino> ma sei paolo di roma ?
[02:30] <berker> are you there elbing?
[02:30] <paolo> sono originario di roma, si
[02:30] <gioacchino> ma ci conosciamo di presenza?
[02:30] <Jucato> English in here please
[02:31] <Lynoure> !it
[02:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:31] <paolo> gioacchino: non conosco nessun gioacchino
[02:31] <berker> I finally can see the packages on Adept
[02:31] <paolo> sorry
[02:31] <gioacchino> escuse Jucato
[02:31] <gioacchino> ok
[02:31] <berker> but when i request a install it says BREAK
[02:31] <paolo> Jucato: sorry
[02:31] <berker> also for GStreamer it says BREAK
[02:31] <illinux> !nvidia
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <berker> what does it mean?
[02:31] <paolo> Jucato: do u know where to find an how-to compile a 2.6.17.xx kernel module (.ko) ?
[02:32] <Jucato> sorry, no
[02:32] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  now smaba share but only with sd5 folder!
[02:32] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  *sda5
[02:32] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  the folder on sda6 not work...
[02:32] <illinux> how do I copy paste in tty ( no GUI ) to take link from irssi to lynx
[02:32] <mefisto__> gioacchino: sorry I know almost nothing about samba
[02:32] <gioacchino> mefisto__:  it tell me the diectory nbot exist
[02:33] <illinux> http
[02:33] <gioacchino> !samba
[02:33] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:33] <illinux> also how to scroolback in tty irssi ?
[02:33] <gioacchino> !fat32
[02:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:35] <flake> in kde 3.5, can I make a panel with no drop-down arrow
[02:36] <flake> oh duh
[02:36] <flake> nevermind, it's in the options sorry
[02:36] <Amos> I downloaded kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso. How can I install Kubuntu OS on my computer?
[02:36] <flake> isn't that the kubuntu OS ?
[02:37] <berker> Guys anyone know what does it mean "BREAK (install)   on Adept package manager when you want to install something...
[02:37] <n8k99> berker it means that if you install it your system will go boom
[02:37] <Shadowtester> Amos try burning the ISO to a disk then booting off the ISO and then clicking on the install option
[02:38] <berker> I still want to install...
[02:38] <berker> How?
[02:38] <n8k99> so adept keeps you from doing that berker
[02:38] <Xemanth> Amos: do you know how to burn that .iso to cd-r ?
[02:38] <berker> its libxine extra codecs...
[02:38] <Jucato> berker: try doing it from the command line, using apt-get, to get more detailed error messages
[02:38] <Amos> Nero?
[02:38] <Xemanth> Amos: yeah, btw what hardware do you have? nvidia graphics ?
[02:39] <Amos> Yes
[02:39] <Xemanth> Amos: have you burned your disc yet ? :)
[02:39] <Amos> no
[02:40] <berker> Jucato -  can you help
[02:40] <Xemanth> Amos: burn it to cd r
[02:40] <berker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7798/
[02:40] <berker> if the package is broken, there is no way i can play XviD files?????
[02:40] <Amos> How do I boot off the ISO?
[02:40] <Jucato> berker: can you also pastebin your sources.list?
[02:40] <Shadowtester> Amos or burn to DVD depending on which version of the ISO you downloaded the CD or DVD version
[02:41] <Jucato> !iso | Amos
[02:41] <ubotu> Amos: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[02:41] <Jucato> er sorry wrong
[02:41] <berker> whats the code for it?
[02:41] <Amos> CD
[02:41] <Jucato> berker: the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:41] <cntb> is nvidia NV11 legacy or not ?
[02:41] <cntb> !nvidia
[02:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:42] <berker> it says permission denied
[02:42] <Jucato> berker: where?
[02:42] <Jucato> berker: how are you trying to open it?
[02:42] <berker> from konsole
[02:42] <Jucato> berker: the files sources.list in the /etc/apt directory
[02:43] <berker> ok
[02:43] <Jucato> it's not a program
[02:43] <Amos> Shadowtester, what I will need to do after the burning?
[02:44] <berker> ok got it
[02:44] <berker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7800/
[02:44] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[02:44] <Shadowtester> just leave the disk in the drive and restart your computer it will boot off the cd and then you will be running a live cd session of Kubuntu on the desktop there will get the option to install from there
[02:44] <berker> selamlar
[02:44] <cntb> how do I find out the 0x00xx code of nvidia card ? in lspci?
[02:45] <Amos> OK, thanks.
[02:45] <M_Fatih> some font's antialias broked after dpkg-reconfigure -all
[02:45] <berker> Jucato -  is everything ok with the list?
[02:45] <Jucato> berker: nope
[02:45] <berker> whats wrong?
[02:45] <Jucato> berker: when you added "multiverse", you deleted "main" and "restricted".
[02:45] <M_Fatih> some font's antialias broked after dpkg-reconfigure -all, how can i fix this, i want to see antialiased for all my fonts
[02:45] <Jucato> berker: lines 1 and 2
[02:45] <berker> yes
[02:46] <berker> what should i do?
[02:46] <Jucato> berker: actually, you deleted *all* main and restricted
[02:46] <Jucato> berker: put them all back.
[02:46] <berker> ups...
[02:46] <Jucato> berker: add them, don't replace
[02:46] <Jucato> I mean, add them to the lines, don't delete multiverse
[02:47] <berker> what should i wrote the lines?
[02:47] <berker> first main restricted
[02:47] <berker> second multiverse
[02:47] <Jucato> berker: add "main" and "restricted" back on these lines, just beside "multiverse"
[02:47] <berker> ?
[02:47] <Jucato> yes
[02:47] <Jucato> for example
[02:47] <berker> ok
[02:47] <Jucato> line 1: should be deb http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse
[02:48] <gioacchino> how to share a directory in a fat 32 partition ??
[02:48] <berker> ok
[02:48] <Jucato> berker: lines 1, 2, 6, 7, 29, 30
[02:48] <Amos> Shadowtester, I am on Nero Express. Which burning type I need to choose?
[02:48] <berker> ok
[02:50] <flake> is there a good editor for gcc c++, html, css, etc
[02:50] <Shadowtester> I am not a nero person I use discjuggler sorry
[02:50] <Amos> Oh, OK, thanks.
[02:51] <Shadowtester> dont use audio I think you need to use a data setting like I said not a nero person
[02:52] <Amos> Data options: Data Disc, Bootable Data Disc, EFI Bootable Disc.
[02:52] <Jucato> flake: Kate
[02:52] <Amos> I think second option :S
[02:54] <berker> Jucato - is it ok now?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7804/
[02:54] <Mena> Hi,
[02:54] <Jucato> berker: no
[02:55] <Jucato> berker: I already told you only which lines to change
[02:55] <Mena> Jucato, Is there a way to make kubuntu work on another Pcs with my hard wich i installed kubuntu on ....but with GuI window
[02:55] <Jucato> berker: <Jucato> berker: lines 1, 2, 6, 7, 29, 30
[02:55] <Jucato> berker: now you removed "universe", which you shouldn't have
[02:56] <berker> ok, i'll try again
[02:56] <Mena> i mean that kubuntu dont open the desktop as normal using
[02:56] <Jucato> berker: ok wait and follow instructions carefully
[02:57] <Jucato> berker: lines 16 and 17: instead of "main restricted multiverse"  put "universe". then remove the '#' at the begining of the line
[02:57] <Jucato> berker: lines 31 and 32  instead of "main restricted multiverse"  put "universe". then remove the '#' at the begining of the line
[02:58] <Jucato> berker: change *only* those 4 lines
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:59] <waylandbill> hey BluesKaj
[02:59] <guiden> what should I do I want to install a tar.gz package and want it to be a part of the adept system?
[03:01] <berker> Mate this lines are different here
[03:01] <berker> line numbers doesn't match
[03:01] <berker> i'll try to do it from beginning again
[03:02] <Jucato> berker: wait
[03:03] <Jucato> berker: # deb http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse
[03:03] <Jucato> berker: that one, replace "main restricted multiverse" with "universe" and remove the # at the beginning of the line
[03:03] <Jucato> berker: # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted multiverse
[03:03] <Jucato> do the same for that line
[03:04] <ForgeAus> Jucato remember you told me to try startx?
[03:04] <ForgeAus> and tell you the error?
[03:04] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes
[03:04] <ForgeAus> there was no error
[03:04] <ForgeAus> it ran
[03:05] <berker> Jucato - is it ok now? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7808/
[03:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: so it just doesn't run if  straight from a boot?
[03:05] <ForgeAus> a little less work than password, sudo password kdm
[03:05] <ForgeAus> yes thats correct
[03:06] <berker> ?
[03:06] <berker> :(
[03:06] <Jucato> it's a bit better now.. but you didn't follow my instructions, again
[03:06] <ForgeAus> Jucato tell him which part
[03:07] <berker> i followed but the line numbers are different because of the ubuntu paste i think
[03:07] <Jucato> berker: ok let's just do it this way... I'll give you a correct copy instead
[03:07] <Jucato> berker: I gave you which specific lines already above
[03:07] <vamp898> i tried to install UltraStar-ng-0.1.1 and while ./configure this message came up
[03:07] <Jucato> I pasted the exact lines..
[03:07] <vamp898> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[03:07] <vamp898> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:07] <vamp898> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:07] <Jucato> !pastebin | vamp898
[03:07] <ubotu> vamp898: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:07] <ForgeAus> sanity check?
[03:07] <Jucato> vamp898: install "build-essential"
[03:07] <ForgeAus> your Cpp went insane?
[03:07] <Jucato> berker: hold on ok
[03:08] <berker> ok
[03:08] <berker> thanks mate
[03:08] <vamp898> i dont know :(
[03:08] <ForgeAus> I was kidding
[03:08] <vamp898> i know^^
[03:08] <vamp898> maybe
[03:08] <vamp898> dont we all are a little bit insane?
[03:09] <vamp898> should i upload the config.log?
[03:09] <Jucato> [22:08]  <Jucato> vamp898: install "build-essential"
[03:10] <Jucato> the build-essential package
[03:10] <nils__> ok
[03:10] <vamp898> ill try it
[03:10] <vamp898> thx
[03:10] <Jucato> berker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7810/
[03:11] <vamp898> hes on downloading
[03:12] <berker> damn it, it says the file could not be written
[03:13] <berker> how can i get a write access to file
[03:13] <Jucato> berker: how have you been changing your repositories earlier?
[03:14] <gioacchino> how to format a fat32 partition in ext3 ?
[03:14] <gioacchino> eith shell ?
[03:14] <gioacchino> *with shell
[03:14] <Jucato> berker: Alt+F2, enter this command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:14] <Amos> mmm... How can I install a language support on Kubuntu?
[03:14] <berker> from adept package manager
[03:15] <vamp898> when he wants cairo, what to install? when i type Cairo in Adept many packages came up
[03:15] <tominglis> hi, i have just installed a new intel 3945abg mini pci express card in my laptop, does anyone know how to install it in ubuntu? do i need to 'modprobe' something? i thought it would just detect it automagically?
[03:16] <Jucato> vamp898: what does it specifically say? the one line error
[03:16] <vamp898> configure: error: This game connot be build without cairo >= 1.2
[03:16] <berker> ok, i saved and quit
[03:16] <Jucato> vamp898: libcairo2-dev
[03:16] <berker> i really have to learn some codes
[03:16] <vamp898> thx
[03:16] <berker> ok, what should i do now?
[03:17] <Jucato> berker: now, in Adept, Fetch Updates and then try installing libxine-extracodecs
[03:17] <berker> to install extra codeds
[03:17] <berker> ok
[03:17] <Jucato> berker: you don't really need to learn code, you just have to follow instructions
[03:17] <Mena> Hey how to add bootaple splash screen
[03:18] <berker> it says BREAK (install)
[03:18] <berker> con not install
[03:18] <Jucato> berker: did you click on Fetch Updates first?
[03:19] <berker> yes
[03:19] <Jucato> berker: ok let's do this in the command line. close Adept. in konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"
[03:19] <berker> wait
[03:20] <berker> i think its loading
[03:20] <Jucato> berker: then, after that "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[03:21] <berker> yeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!11
[03:21] <ScarFreewill> !beryl
[03:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:21] <berker> Mate how can i thank you for your passion...
[03:21] <berker> Thank you very much!!!
[03:21] <ScarFreewill> !botsnack
[03:21] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:21] <berker> :)))))))))99
[03:21] <Mena> !bootaplsplashscreen
[03:22] <Jucato> Mena?
[03:22] <ScarFreewill> !ping
[03:22] <ubotu> pong
[03:22] <ScarFreewill> !info konversation
[03:22] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[03:22] <Mena> HOw to add a one
[03:22] <Mena> bootsplashscreen
[03:22] <berker> Jucato - Thanks alot.............
[03:22] <Jucato> Mena: on Kubuntu? not so easy...
[03:22] <Jucato> !usplash | Mena
[03:22] <ubotu> Mena: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:22] <Jucato> berker: you're welcome
[03:23] <berker> :)
[03:23] <LycanNyc-work> http://rafb.net/p/j2hqg440.html
[03:23] <berker> you're the man!
[03:23] <flake> Error. INTLTOOLIZE=intltoolize not found
[03:23] <parkerw207> Hey guys just thought i would come in to report a bug in the new development kubuntu
[03:23] <Mena> I tried befor but i will try again :F
[03:23] <flake> when running ./autogen.sh
[03:23] <berker> Thanks again again and again...... many many...
[03:23] <Jucato> parkerw207: #ubuntu+1
[03:23] <parkerw207> thanks
[03:23] <vamp898> configure: error: This game connot be build without alsa
[03:23] <berker> See you later mate...
[03:23] <vamp898> i installed alsa-base
[03:24] <vamp898> i try to install alsa-source
[03:25] <Jucato> flake: try to install intltool
[03:25] <Jucato> vamp898: yeah try that
[03:26] <eilker> i wanna replace all icons and all themes of ubuntu with my icons and themes, how can i do it ? any experience ?_
[03:26] <Jucato> !changethemes | eilker
[03:26] <ubotu> eilker: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[03:26] <vamp898> configure: error: This game connot be build without alsa
[03:26] <vamp898> damm
[03:27] <eilker> hi and thanx jucato :D
[03:27] <Jucato> vamp898: try libasound2-dev
[03:27] <flake> thanks
[03:28] <vamp898> kk thx
[03:29] <Jucato> vamp898: here's a hint when configure complains about some missing part. look for the -dev package for that part. like earlier for cairo, look for the cairo headers or development files package (libcairo2-dev)
[03:29] <intelikey> is there an easy way to list only one process by it's pid ?
[03:29] <Jucato> vamp898: in this case, the package description is "ALSA library development files" (libasound2-dev)
[03:29] <eilker> jucato: i wanna create a modified ubuntu ,this may be a new iso, or a package in repo's to change all icons and themes of kubuntu, is it possible ?
[03:30] <gioacchino> how to make a fat32 partition ina  ext3 partition ?
[03:30] <intelikey> ah this will work.   ps -A x | grep ^<pid>
[03:30] <Jucato> eilker: probably, but  definitely not easy. as you have to remaster the ISO, make Ubuntu .deb packages, etc
[03:30] <gioacchino> !-it
[03:30] <ubotu> it aliases: italian, italiano - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:16:52
[03:30] <gioacchino> !it
[03:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:31] <intelikey> gioacchino mke2fs -cj /dev/hda1     where hda1 is an example.
[03:32] <eilker> is there a channel for kubuntu developers ?
[03:32] <gioacchino> thanks
[03:33] <gioacchino> intelikey: not work...
[03:33] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-dev
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <BluesKaj> !development
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <LycanNyc-work> anyone knows how to setup the kicker or the kickoff ?
[03:33] <Mena_> kde-devel
[03:33] <Jucato> eilker: #ubuntu-devel
[03:33] <gioacchino> intelikey:  it tell this isn't a special block device
[03:33] <Jucato> Mena_: no
[03:34] <Mena_> ok
[03:34] <eilker> thanx
[03:34] <Mena_> Sorry
[03:34] <Jucato> eilker: ubuntu-devel would know more about remastering the CD's
[03:34] <gioacchino> intelikey: mke2fs -cj media/sda6
[03:35] <intelikey> gioacchino use the correct device address and it will work.      also you will have to do that as "root"     see the wiki on   !sudo
[03:35] <intelikey> gioacchino there are no device nodes in /media/ !
[03:35] <flake> can i be sure when I make a binary distribution for users that they wont need to install libxml, libpcre, or any other 'runtimes' to support my app?
[03:35] <intelikey> !sudo | gioacchino
[03:35] <ubotu> gioacchino: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:36] <intelikey> gioacchino     you can use       fdisk -l        to list partitions.      run that as root also.
[03:37] <intelikey> repost.     gioacchino  mke2fs -cj /dev/hda1     where hda1 is an example.  <<< what about that is so hard to understand ?
[03:39] <Am0s> :|
[03:39] <guiden> Does linux people have rar share?
[03:40] <intelikey> !rar
[03:40] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:40] <MuJ> rar is evil
[03:40] <Am0s> I rebooted the system and it ran the DR DOS
[03:40] <vamp898> why games dont bring there own lib? On Windows they do it too
[03:40] <Am0s> I'm not understand how to install it on DR DOS
[03:41] <guiden> the think is that it's great to have a pure original rar share, you can acces the biggest dump hubs on dc!
[03:41] <guiden> thing
[03:41] <Dr_willis> vamp898,  some consider that a bad thing...
[03:41] <Dr_willis> vamp898,  package management under linux has a whole different philisoply.
[03:41] <intelikey> how to read one line at a time from a file ?
[03:41] <ScarFreewill> does any one know what a good sftp windows client is?
[03:41] <ScarFreewill> i know this is not the place..
[03:41] <Dr_willis> winscp  for windows is very nice
[03:41] <Dr_willis> i use it all the time
[03:41] <ScarFreewill> ok thx Dr_willis
[03:42] <Dr_willis> one of the top 10 things 'must install' on a new windows install. :)
[03:42] <n8k99> is firefox really a lightweight browser?
[03:43] <Dr_willis> theres some lighter variantions/versions/spinoffs of firefox I guess...
[03:43] <Dr_willis> so define 'liteweight' :)
[03:43] <Am0s> I'm not understand how to install it on DR DOS
[03:43] <Am0s> =\
[03:43] <Dr_willis> Am0s,  clarify what the heck you are doing.
[03:44] <n8k99> just noticed in adept firefox is labelled as a lightweight browser based upon mozilla
[03:44] <Am0s> I am trying to install Kubuntu
[03:44] <Dr_willis> n8k99,  compared to mozilla its lighter.
[03:44] <Jucato> yeah, what Dr_willis said
[03:45] <vamp898> why pastebin.com lag?
[03:45] <vamp898> i cant upload anything
[03:45] <parkerw207> how do you install a distro on an external hard drive and actually use it ?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> vamp898,  its a very used and abused site
[03:45] <Am0s> ?
[03:45] <vamp898> do you know any other site
[03:45] <vamp898> ?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> parkerw207,  id check the wiki/forums - i hear its doable.. but there may be some issues to watch out for.
[03:45] <Dr_willis> google.com 'pastebin'
[03:45] <Dr_willis> lots of sites
[03:45] <parkerw207> thaks
[03:45] <parkerw207> thanks**
[03:45] <jay> if i want to export a variable so that alllll the system can access it, which file do I export it in?
[03:45] <n8k99> Dr_willis: thanks, it was sort of a rhetorical uestion anyways
[03:46] <vamp898> can anyone help with this?
[03:46] <vamp898> http://pastebin.ca/374351
[03:46] <Jucato> n8k99: rhetorics, like sarcasm, are hard to detect online :D
[03:46] <Am0s> How do I install Kubuntu on DR DOS after rebooting the system?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> jay,  all users - /etc/bashrc perhaps.
[03:46] <Dr_willis> Am0s,  you system SHOULD boot the cd.. but if you got some oddball pc that has DR-DOS installed... well thats.. odd..
[03:46] <n8k99> Jucato: yes, i know, sorry about the confusion
[03:47] <Dr_willis> Am0s,  what brand PC ya got?
[03:48] <Jucato> vamp898: you don't run "sudo make"
[03:48] <Jucato> vamp898: only "make"
[03:48] <vamp898> kk
[03:48] <Mena_> What is the best clear font and look nice
[03:48] <vamp898> the same error
[03:48] <Am0s> mm
[03:48] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. byee....
[03:48] <Jucato> vamp898: you also don't use the --with- in make
[03:48] <Jucato> vamp898: just plain "make"
[03:48] <Am0s> How do I boot the CD? =\
[03:48] <vge> Am0s: press the CD icon in the desctop with mouse2 and choose eject
[03:49] <vamp898> now this
[03:49] <vamp898> http://pastebin.ca/374353
[03:50] <Jucato> sorry, now I don't know that
[03:50] <vamp898> i treid sudo make again and now hes doing anything
[03:50] <Am0s> Arg... Restart
[03:50] <Jucato> vamp898: like I said, don't use "sudo make"
[03:50] <flake> su to root gives me authentication error - it is a clean install of 6.10 btw,  but sudo works fine
[03:51] <Jucato> flake: root user is disabled
[03:51] <Jucato> you won't be able to use su normally
[03:51] <Darkkish> Jucato i did a ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:51] <MuJ> this is default behaviour in *buntu
[03:51] <flake> how do I enable it, it wont let me do a su -c "make install"
[03:51] <Darkkish> and then tried ./configure && make
[03:51] <Darkkish> and it didn't work
[03:52] <Darkkish> PM me for how to fix it if you would be so kind, i g2g
[03:52] <Jucato> flake: use "sudo make install"
[03:52] <Darkkish> it completelytuy compiled
[03:52] <vamp898> damm now this
[03:52] <vamp898> http://pastebin.ca/374356
[03:52] <Darkkish> oh
[03:52] <Darkkish> thanks
[03:52] <Darkkish> awesome <3
[03:52] <flake> maybe I need to restart X..
[03:53] <Jucato> flake: why?
[03:53] <Jucato> vamp898: sorry, I really don't know what to tell you at this point
[03:53] <flake> not showing up in my kmenu and not launching when I type it
[03:53] <flake> bluefish
[03:53] <vamp898> thts kay, maybe someone else knows the problem
[03:53] <Jucato> flake: you had to compile bluefish?
[03:54] <flake> trying to do it the cvs way
[03:54] <Jucato> ok...
[03:54] <flake> and not showing up in my synatpic package manager
[03:54] <Jucato> flake: of course it won't
[03:54] <flake> nor is kdevelop
[03:54] <flake> or anything else
[03:54] <flake> codeblocks
[03:54] <Jucato> er?
[03:55] <flake> quanta is
[03:55] <Jucato> !info bluefish
[03:55] <Jucato> flake:  you just didn't have the proper repositorie enabled
[03:55] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB
[03:55] <Jucato> flake: what happens when you type "bluefish" in Konsole?
[03:56] <vamp898> maybe some whants to clean this problem from world
[03:56] <vamp898> http://pastebin.ca/374356 thats the error
[03:56] <flake> command not found
[03:56] <Am0s> :{
[03:56] <waylandbill> woo! finally got xgl up and running
[03:56] <Jucato> flake: where did you install it to?
[03:56] <vamp898> ah one quest
[03:57] <guiden> !dvd
[03:57] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:57] <Am0s> I'm not understand. :|
[03:57] <Am0s> !drdos
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drdos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <vamp898> i have a GeForce 4 MX 420 and i dont find a driver, does anyone knows a repo?
[03:57] <intelikey> Am0s what about dr-DOS ?
[03:58] <Jucato> vamp898: nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy...
[03:58] <flake> whatever the default directories were in the makefile ?
[03:58] <Am0s> I was trying to install Kubuntu
[03:58] <Am0s> and it was running DR-DOS
[03:59] <Am0s> then I didn't know what to do
[03:59] <Jucato> flake: it might not have installed properly... did you use a --prefix flag with ./configure?
[03:59] <flake> no
[03:59] <slyfox> Jucato: I never thought that I would start thinking about this. :-( I really need to have my phone synced with pc in my Real Estate business, but it seems impssible to do so on Linux. Thought of isntalling Vista instead begin to appear...
[03:59] <Jucato> it should have installe in /usr then
[04:00] <vamp898> i installed nvidia-glx and since then my X Server never started, i had to run Knoppix and copy them xorg.conf file
[04:00] <flake> ah hah
[04:00] <Jucato> slyfox: sorry can't help you much
[04:00] <Jucato> vamp898: you need to install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel too
[04:00] <flake> I installed Quanta, now my development folder is showing up on the kmenu plus bluefish which works
[04:00] <Jucato> otherwise it won't work
[04:00] <flake> see i should have restarted the x-server
[04:00] <Am0s> intelikey?
[04:01] <Jucato> flake: not really. the command line shouldn't be affected by X
[04:01] <flake> kicker?
[04:01] <Am0s> someone?
[04:01] <flake> restart kicker then
[04:02] <guiden> where do I get .ogg music files?
[04:02] <Am0s> I was trying to install Kubuntu
[04:02] <Am0s> and it was running DR-DOS
[04:02] <Am0s> then I didn't know what to do
[04:02] <vamp898> i copyd my acutal xorg.conf file to Desktop^^ sure is sure
[04:03] <Am0s> ??
[04:03] <_Johny> whot's the name of the bot?
[04:03] <Am0s> :\
[04:04] <_Johny> !bot
[04:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:04] <Am0s> :|
[04:04] <_Johny> !ati
[04:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <Am0s> someone knows?
[04:05] <Tm_T> Jucato: Weird hat you got.
[04:05] <Jucato> :)
[04:06] <Am0s> everybody don't know?
[04:06] <Mena_> Bye all thanks
[04:07] <vamp898> hes downloading linux-image and that what you say before
[04:07] <vamp898> and nvidia-glx
[04:07] <vamp898> i hope this will work
[04:07] <Jucato> vamp898: I said linux-restricted-modules
[04:07] <Am0s> :[
[04:08] <io_> hello! does anyone know why do I get this error when I try to run ADEPT:The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
 I was trying to install Kubuntu  + <Am0s> and it was running DR-DOS  <<<  sorry.   what was running  dr-dos ?
[04:08] <Am0s> the computer
[04:08] <Am0s> automatically
[04:08] <intelikey> Am0s i know of nothing about any ubuntu installer that uses *DOS
[04:09] <ubuntu_> lol
[04:10] <Am0s> but users here said to burn a CD
[04:10] <Am0s> of the .iso
[04:10] <vamp898> yes, thats what i mead
[04:10] <vamp898> *mean
[04:10] <io_> hello! does anyone know why do I get this error when I try to run ADEPT:The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[04:10] <vamp898> but this means the image
[04:10] <vamp898> *needs
[04:10] <intelikey> Am0s your computer had  dr-dos  installed  and you tried to install ubuntu along side your DOS installation ?      is that what you are describing ?
[04:11] <Jucato> vamp898: installing a linux-image means you're installing a new kernel
[04:11] <Am0s> mm
[04:11] <Jucato> vamp898: install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your installed linux-image version
[04:11] <Am0s> yes
[04:11] <vamp898> yes
[04:12] <vamp898> 2.6.17.10 and 2.6.17.11 is loading, i hope these are actual
[04:13] <Am0s> intelikey you know what I need to do for installing Kubuntu? :S
[04:13] <vamp898> how to check the actual kernel version?
[04:13] <ubuntu_> Love Windows the only legal virus!!!
[04:13] <guiden> the guides for enabling dvd, mp3, flash and other formats are only written for ubuntu/gnome, what should I do with the kde programs that I use. For example, they describe how to fix the restriction on totem, and not caffiene
[04:13] <Jucato> vamp898: uname -r
[04:13] <Jucato> guiden: which guide?
[04:13] <vamp898> vamp898@vamp898-desktop:~$ uname -r
[04:13] <Jucato> !mp3 | guiden
[04:13] <ubotu> guiden: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:13] <vamp898> 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:13] <vamp898> vamp898@vamp898-desktop:~$
[04:14] <guiden> this for example
[04:14] <guiden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:14] <Jucato> guiden: the ones for mp3 and flash have Kubuntu instructions
[04:15] <intelikey> Am0s yeah.  if you want a text based (expert install) get the 'alternate' install cd and boot it.    if you want a 'graphic' semi-automated install get the live CD and boot it.  the dvd has both methoods as i recall.
[04:15] <guiden> ok
[04:15] <Am0s> How do I boot it?
[04:16] <Jucato> guiden: that link you gave doesn't even have Ubuntu/Kubuntu-specific instructions. it is general
[04:16] <intelikey> Am0s also see !shipit if you can't dl + burn the iso image.
[04:16] <Am0s> I burned it
[04:16] <intelikey> Am0s the cd's are bootable.   as is the dvd
[04:16] <vamp898> i tought the actual Kernel is 2.6.18 or 2.6.20, why on Ubuntu/Kubuntu only 2.6.17 is aviable?
[04:16] <Am0s> !shipit
[04:16] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[04:17] <Jucato> vamp898: the latest stable kernel released is 2.6.20, but when edgy was being developed, there was only 2.6.17
[04:17] <intelikey> Am0s if your cdrom drive or dvd-rom drive is not supported as a boot device in the BIOS you will have to change that in the BIOS settings.
[04:17] <vamp898> is there any way to update to 2.6.20?
[04:18] <Jucato> vamp898: only if you compile yourself
[04:18] <vamp898> kk
[04:19] <Am0s> :O
[04:19] <vamp898> i tought maybe there is a way over apt (in SuSE Linux 10.0 you are allowed to update the kernel over YaST)
[04:19] <Am0s> so I can't install Kubuntu? S:
[04:19] <BluesKaj> check with the suse chat , theis is kubuntu
[04:20] <Jucato> vamp898: only if SUSE makes the kernel available
[04:20] <vamp898> ah k thx^^
[04:20] <Jucato> vamp898: or are you saying you can compile the kernel from source using YaST?
[04:20] <vamp898> no
[04:20] <vamp898> you updatet, then you had to restart and thats all, but since SuSE 10.1 this is no longer working :D
[04:20] <intelikey> Am0s there is also a way to do a network install.    i think.   but as unsupported as your system seems to be i'm not going to attempt to overcome that pebcak.
[04:21] <Jucato> vamp898: that's only possible if SUSE packages the new kernel and makes it available. same is true for Kubuntu.
[04:21] <vamp898> and where?
[04:21] <Jucato> vamp898: it just so happens that they didn't package the latest kernel for Edgy
[04:21] <Am0s> ok thanks intelikey =\
[04:22] <vamp898> when comes the new Kubuntu
[04:22] <vamp898> (quest over quest :D )
[04:22] <Jucato> vamp898: using Adept or apt-get. you install new kernels just like you install any other package
[04:26] <vamp898> after installing nvidia-glx, is the 3D Accleration atomatic aktive, or have i to do something else?
[04:26] <Jucato> vamp898: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:27] <Jucato> then restart X
[04:27] <vamp898> with the installation of nvidia-glx, apt atomatic removed nvidia-xconfig
[04:27] <Jucato> vamp898: because nvidia-glx comes w/ its own xconfig
[04:27] <vamp898> ah thx
[04:27] <flake> when I run a simple opengl example and watching the nvidia xserver settings, the temp jumps from 79C up to 100C
[04:28] <[KotG|Tanu] > where do u get a kernel > 2.6.11 from? Oo
[04:28] <ubuntu_> alla ni som e h'\r inne kan suga min kuk
[04:28] <[KotG|Tanu] > hooops
[04:28] <[KotG|Tanu] > didnt scroll down >.<
[04:28] <flake> I put some new themal compound on my cpu
[04:29] <Jucato> [KotG|Tanu] : Edgy is using 2.6.17-10 and 2.6.17-11
[04:30] <[KotG|Tanu] > huh?
[04:30] <Am0s> :|
[04:30] <[KotG|Tanu] > i have edgy and only running 2.6.11. default was 2.6.10...
[04:31] <Jucato> [KotG|Tanu] : "uname -r" will give you your kernel version
[04:31] <Tanuva> yep
[04:31] <Tanuva> umm...
[04:31] <Tanuva> i didnt think im blind, am i....
[04:31] <Am0s> There is an option to install Kubuntu through Windows?
[04:31] <Tanuva> wtf did I read there?!
[04:31] <Jucato> you read 2.6.11
[04:32] <Tanuva> Am0s: yes, theres a windows installer
[04:32] <Tanuva> Jucato: yes, i did. but the truth is, that its 2.6.17-11...
[04:32] <Am0s> Where I can find it?
[04:32] <Tanuva> hmm
[04:32] <Am0s> can I*
[04:32] <Tanuva> Am0s: need to look it up, mom...
[04:34] <Am0s> ?
[04:34] <Tanuva> Am0s: theres a news article about it in the german "linux user", just found it. www.goodbye-microsoft.com
[04:35] <Am0s> :O
[04:35] <vamp898> now i have the driver nvidia :D
[04:35] <vamp898> but Beryl hates me :D
[04:36] <vamp898> why i have only Beryl 0.1.1 :( on Adept there isnt any newer version
[04:36] <Am0s> blat, it is Debian and not Kubuntu :X
[04:36] <Tanuva> sure its kubuntu...
[04:37] <Tanuva> ive seen the screenshots :O
[04:37] <Jucato> vamp898: ask the guys in #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[04:37] <Jucato> vamp898: but I used Beryl 2.0 last month, iirc
[04:38] <Am0s> Didn't see the logo? :|
[04:38] <Tanuva> Am0s: ah no, gave you the wrong url :D
[04:38] <Tanuva> its wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[04:38] <vamp898> but the latest release is 0.1.4 _
[04:38] <Am0s> ok
[04:38] <Am0s> 10x
[04:38] <Jucato> vamp898: oh I must be dreaming them. 0.2 or something I forgot
[04:39] <vamp898> Beryl 2.0 that where great :D
[04:40] <ForgeAus> lol
[04:40] <ForgeAus> Beryl is ok but it isn't all that
[04:40] <vamp898> i cant find aquamarine :(
[04:40] <ForgeAus> Kwin will soon have some Beryl-like functionality
[04:40] <ForgeAus> vamp its in settings somewhere
[04:40] <ForgeAus> brb
[04:41] <Jucato> vamp898: you need to install it first
[04:41] <waylandbill> goodness. I /just/ got beryl to run without white screening or hard lockup
[04:41] <vamp898> to install what first?
[04:41] <vamp898> aquamarine?
[04:41] <ForgeAus> settings -> appearacnes & themes
[04:41] <ForgeAus> or if you like kcontrol
 i cant find aquamarine :( <--- where can't you find it?
[04:41] <Jucato> ForgeAus: huh?
[04:42] <vamp898> on apt, i made my sources.list with source-o-matic with all options
[04:42] <ForgeAus> um jucato the kmenu (addable one) settings...
[04:42] <bbeck_> I would like to add a perl script to the boot process so reconfigure the network interfaces.  On previous versions of Ubuntu I would just add a symlink to rc2.d, that doesn't appear to work anymore.  Is there a way to get it to work?
[04:42] <ForgeAus> its called beryl but its really aquamarine settings
[04:42] <ForgeAus> not much in there tho
[04:42] <Jucato> ForgeAus: aquamarine is a Beryl window decoration
[04:42] <ForgeAus> just shadows and opacity
[04:43] <ForgeAus> Jucato yeah but theres some settings for it in kcontrol
[04:43] <Jucato> those are just KDE frontends to the Aquamarine settings, which he won't have if he doesn't install aquamarine
[04:43] <vamp898> i hope KDE 4 comes soon
[04:43] <vamp898> i tried KDE 3.80.2 svn :D but it was very bad
[04:43] <Jucato> vamp898: you know why it's bad?
[04:45] <larsivi> motu ppl : kvpnc don't work out of the box - something with kdesu
[04:46] <Jucato> larsivi: motu people aren't here..
[04:46] <vamp898> yes i know why its bad
[04:46] <vamp898> beceause 3.80.2 :D
[04:46] <vamp898> svn
[04:46] <larsivi> Jucato: hmm, where would I find them?
[04:46] <Jucato> vamp898: because it's a *developers'* snapshot, meant for people developing KDE 4 apps, not for end users
[04:47] <cgg__> mh, i cant add anything to my amarok collection :/
[04:47] <vamp898> i know
[04:47] <Jucato> larsivi: #ubuntu-motu or in this case, #kubuntu-devel
[04:47] <larsivi> Jucato: thanks
[04:47] <vamp898> beryl-manager hangs on when i try to start, the last thing he says is: nvidia present and then *froze*
[04:49] <vamp898> how to start/get XGL in Kubuntu? or AIGLX?
[04:49] <vamp898> ah i found it
[04:50] <guiden>   Linux
[04:50] <Jucato> !jp
[04:50] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[04:50] <Jucato> :)
[04:50] <Tm_T> I see only ??????
[04:51] <Jucato> Tm_T: oh... unicode...
[04:51] <Am0s> !il
[04:51] <ubotu>         :
[04:51] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[04:51] <cgg__> hihi
[04:51] <Tm_T> Jucato: Well, there's atleast 2 recoding from irc channel to my display. ;)
[04:52] <_grayman> !ch
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Jucato> !botabuse
[04:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:52] <vamp898> !xgl
[04:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:52] <Tm_T> Jucato: No one listens ya.
[04:53] <Jucato> :)
[04:53] <waylandbill> those would be all well and good if I knew what those japanese characters meant. Not sure what that other lanquage was.
[04:53] <_grayman> hebrew
[04:54] <guiden> im not japanese :p
[04:54] <guiden> My god, I can't get these mp3 flash dvd  restrictions to go away
[04:54] <vamp898> on the XGL how to is this command
[04:55] <vamp898> gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[04:55] <vamp898> but this command is not working
[04:55] <vamp898> vamp898@vamp898-desktop:~$ gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[04:55] <vamp898> bash: gksudo: command not found
[04:55] <apokryphos> !kdesu
[04:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:56] <vamp898> ah k^^
[04:56] <Jucato> vamp898: use pastebin next time. this is the 2nd time I've told you
[04:56] <vamp898> for this small things?
[04:56] <jhutchins> Jucato: He pasted one line!
[04:56] <Jucato> ah yeah lol
[04:56] <jhutchins> Ok, two.
[04:57] <vamp898> i forgive you :D
[04:57] <Jucato> :P
[04:57] <Jucato> you should
[04:57] <waylandbill> lol
[04:57] <apokryphos> !enter
[04:57] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:57] <apokryphos> there ;-)
[04:58] <vamp898> i treid with kdesu and now hes loading and not doing anything
[04:58] <waylandbill> don't use the enter key. use periods, commas and semicolons randomly instead. ;-P
[04:59] <Jucato> vamp898: use kdesu kate instead of gksudo gedit
[04:59] <jhutchins> vamp898: Do you suppose it could be that "gedit" isn't there?  The leading "g" usually implies a gnome app, which is probably not installed on a KDE/Kubuntu install.
[05:00] <vamp898> i tried
[05:00] <I-kido> sudo apt-get install -y kedit
[05:00] <vamp898> kdesu kwrite
[05:00] <I-kido> sudo apt-get install -y kwrite
[05:01] <wimpies> My CDRom hotplug no longer works ... what could be broken ?
[05:01] <Jucato> I-kido: no need to repeat
[05:01] <Jucato> (and no need to install kedit either)
[05:02] <vamp898> !xgl
[05:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:02] <I-kido> wow, u must feel very powerful now
[05:02] <jhutchins> Nobody here uses vi anymore?
[05:02] <waylandbill> one page is not enough for xgl. :-)
[05:02] <waylandbill> jhutchins: vim at least.
[05:03] <jhutchins> waylandbill: Well yeah, but everybody seems to use nano, pico, kedit, anything but vim.
[05:03] <Am0s> !wubi
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wubi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <CGG> i use vim :P
[05:03] <Jucato> jhutchins: unless you exclude developers from "everybody"
[05:04] <CGG> i cant get familiar with nano oO
[05:04] <guiden> When I installed a flash package, It had to install an extra package, so it automatically checked another package in adept. Then when it doesn't work I want to remove this, and then I unchecked the main package, and I hoped that the adpet will be a little "smart" and remove the other one too, but it didn't so im beginning to questions the package handlers quality...
[05:04] <arriesp> hi
[05:04] <waylandbill> jhutchins: I think they get scared with hjkl as movement keys. ;)
[05:05] <Am0s> Which Ubuntu is the install of wubi 7.04?
[05:05] <Jucato> of what?
[05:06] <jhutchins> waylandbill: Yeah, but the mystical experience of using something that non-DOS usually helps with the paradigm shift.
[05:06] <Am0s> the EXE install of ubuntu
[05:06] <waylandbill> guiden: you can use deborphan to clean out the auto installed packages.
[05:07] <Jucato> Am0s: I don't really know. that project is not an officially supported Ubuntu project
[05:07] <_grayman> what do you mean by EXE install?
[05:07] <Am0s> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[05:08] <_grayman> something being on a wiki do not indicate it to be officially supported
[05:09] <Am0s> :|
[05:09] <Am0s> =\
[05:09] <vamp898> damm
[05:09] <yaccin> also its kinda far from being finished
[05:09] <vamp898> i start the session with XGL, and it ends
[05:09] <yaccin> why xgl? -_-
[05:09] <hak5fan> hi... I've just started learning to code applications in C and I wonder how I can copile my program using eclipse. I copied the source code from my electeronic book, so there shouldn't be any errors in it. If no one here knows please direct me to a programmer related irc channel
[05:09] <waylandbill> debian has a windows installer as well.
[05:09] <yaccin> xgl sucks
[05:09] <yaccin> use nvidia or aiglx
[05:10] <Am0s> but I want to install (K)Ubuntu through Windows :X
[05:10] <waylandbill> hak5fan: you may be missing required headers or libraries
[05:10] <yaccin> Am0s: WHY?
[05:10] <Am0s> I can't install it with the CD
[05:10] <yaccin> why not?
[05:11] <waylandbill> yaccin: I would love to use aiglx. darn that ati. :-)
[05:11] <_grayman> i think that he means that he don't know how to launch the compilation procedure
[05:11] <Am0s> My CD-ROM is not support bootable CDs
[05:11] <alexicon> !compiz
[05:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:11] <yaccin> waylandbill: im also... i use the opensouorce drivers, not frglx drivers... and i have aiglx :)
[05:11] <yaccin> _grayman: what compilation procedure?
[05:11] <waylandbill> yaccin: I have the dreaded 200m xpress and cannot use o-s driver. :(
[05:12] <yaccin> waylandbill: aww :/ then guy buy a nvidia card :P
[05:12] <_grayman> what hak5fan said
[05:12] <Am0s> yaccin, Because my CD-ROM is not support bootable CDs
[05:12] <waylandbill> yaccin: for a laptop? that'd be a neat trick. :-D
[05:12] <yaccin> Am0s: your cdrom is, your bios may not be
[05:12] <yaccin> Am0s: how old is you pc?
[05:13] <yaccin> waylandbill: :D why do most laptops have ati-cards? -_-
[05:13] <Am0s> 3-4 years old
[05:13] <hak5fan> _grayman: that's right
[05:13] <vamp898> XLG hates me :(
[05:13] <yaccin> or is it just dell? :(
[05:13] <yaccin> Am0s: should work then... checked you bios settings?
[05:13] <yaccin> vamp898: use aiglx/nvidia :P
[05:13] <Am0s> no
[05:13] <waylandbill> yaccin: this is a compaq and it has one. can't complain for the price though I guess.
[05:13] <Am0s> I don't know how to check
[05:13] <_grayman> hak5fan: well, i code in C using vim (a console text editor) and usualy prefer to compile from command line after saving the file
[05:13] <yaccin> Am0s: maybe you have to enable boot from cdrom in your bios
[05:14] <yaccin> press del or f2 or something before boting
[05:14] <_grayman> like gcc -o progname codefile.c
[05:14] <yaccin> waylandbill: ati sucks ^^
[05:14] <waylandbill> :)
[05:14] <_grayman> should work
[05:14] <_grayman> if you have gcc
[05:14] <_grayman> if not then install essentials
[05:14] <yaccin> build-essential
[05:14] <_grayman> yeah
[05:14] <hak5fan> _grayman: I have tried that and I think it worked but I don't know how to launch my program to test it when doing it that way
[05:15] <yaccin> :)
[05:15] <_grayman> ah
[05:15] <_grayman> you do it ./progname
[05:15] <_grayman> if it's in the same directory
[05:15] <waylandbill> then when you do get the errors I can tell you that you may be missing headers or libraries. :-P
[05:15] <_grayman> or just something like code/progname
[05:15] <_grayman> if in other
[05:15] <yaccin> waylandbill: just a funny idea and may not work... but is it possible tu use aiglx in a virtual machine?
[05:15] <hak5fan> yes ok
[05:16] <pap> can anyone tell me how to convert .Avi files to .WMV
[05:16] <waylandbill> yaccin: I couldn't say. That's the first time I've heard of the idea.
[05:16] <hak5fan> _grayman: I think I didn't give the program a name I only specified the input .c file
[05:16] <_grayman> then it will be a.out
[05:17] <yaccin> waylandbill: maybe ill try it at home :)
[05:17] <hak5fan> _grayman: lol... That's why that file suddenly appeard....
[05:17] <waylandbill> yaccin: I have an nvidia card at home, so I won't.. hehe
[05:17] <vamp898> !aiglx
[05:17] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[05:17] <_grayman> so you just need to ./a.out
[05:17] <vamp898> !xgl
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:18] <yaccin> use beryl not compiz :P
[05:18] <_grayman> well
[05:18] <yaccin> waylandbill: i also have nvidia at home ^^
[05:18] <_grayman> your shell should highlight file types
[05:18] <_grayman> get to know what colour are executables
[05:18] <_grayman> or just use the file utility
[05:18] <_grayman> like file a.out
[05:18] <hak5fan> _grayman: green right=
[05:18] <hak5fan> ?
[05:18] <waylandbill> vamp898: did you check out this page yet? http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[05:19] <_grayman> depends on your configuration
[05:19] <vamp898> no
[05:19] <yaccin> vamp898: why are you using XGL instead of AIGLX?
[05:19] <hak5fan> _grayman: It worked... thanx
[05:19] <vamp898> the problem is, i have a nVidia
[05:19] <_grayman> np
[05:19] <yaccin> vamp898: thats not a problem!
[05:19] <yaccin> you have edgy?
[05:20] <_grayman> yeah
[05:20] <vamp898> you site is for ATI Cards
[05:20] <waylandbill> vamp898: oh. then you may be able to use aiglx
[05:20] <_grayman> ELF files are standard executables for linux
[05:20] <yaccin> vamp898: you have edgy?
[05:20] <sandro__> hi all im looking for a regexp tool to test and try around with regexps on a (big) string .. i find something called "regexxer" .. i could install but it wants to install some gnome packages due to dependency .. since i run kde im confused .. could someone point me to a regexp tool for kde?!
[05:20] <Am0s> restart, cya.
[05:20] <yaccin> vamp898: if you have you dont even need aiglx... nor xgl
[05:20] <_grayman> (just so you could say what is what with file utility"
[05:20] <_grayman> )
[05:20] <vamp898> why?
[05:21] <waylandbill> vamp898: I assumed you had an ati because of your desire to install xgl
[05:21] <yaccin> just install beryl and enable composite in your xorg.conf
[05:21] <vamp898> hmmmm
[05:21] <yaccin> vamp898: nvidia drivers provide the same function that aiglx or xgl do
[05:21] <yaccin> nvidia > aiglx > xgl
[05:22] <vamp898> Section "Extensions"
[05:22] <vamp898> Option "Composite""Enable"
[05:22] <vamp898> EndSection
[05:22] <vamp898> is this ok?
[05:22] <_grayman> hak5fan: if you're going to code in C i nlinux then you should get familiar with the command line since you will be using it a lot
[05:22] <yaccin> yes
[05:22] <yaccin> append in your xorg.conf
[05:22] <waylandbill> yaccin: limit that by saying recent drivers do
[05:22] <yaccin> restart xserver
[05:22] <yaccin> start beryl-manager
[05:22] <vamp898> kk
[05:22] <yaccin> waylandbill: yes... most people think you still need beta-drivers ^^
[05:23] <waylandbill> gotcha
[05:23] <yaccin> waylandbill: but he is on edgy, so doesnt matter if his drivers support it, because if not he can also use aiglx ^^
[05:23] <waylandbill> :)
[05:25] <waylandbill> sometime I'll update my home desktop to edgy. It's still running dapper.
[05:25] <waylandbill> it runs problem free though.
[05:25] <yaccin> im running feisty at home ^^
[05:25] <BluesKaj> how is fiesty with hardware recognition ?
[05:25] <waylandbill> If it stops working, the wife will make me regret it. :-)
[05:26] <vytautas> .kde/share/apps/klipper/history2.lst is binary, ain't it against the principles?
[05:26] <yaccin> BluesKaj: never had problems with hardware since dapper
[05:26] <vamp898> since bevore
[05:26] <vamp898> all hang on
[05:26] <vamp898> !xgl
[05:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:26] <yaccin> just 3 little things that never worked :/
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[05:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:26] <BluesKaj> wifey doesn't want linux on her pc
[05:27] <yaccin> BluesKaj: install it and make it look like windows ^^
[05:27] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: wife went to use it and windows was gone. She said that within a few days she figured out the basics of kde.
[05:27] <BluesKaj> problem is yaccin, she's so used to windows programs and any change in routine is updsetting
[05:28] <yaccin> what windows programs?
[05:28] <waylandbill> I had her using firefox and thunderbird and open office on windows first, so the transition wasn't that bad.
[05:29] <BluesKaj> her solitaire program for one ...she loves it.... the linux one doesn't merasure up :)
[05:29] <yaccin> waylandbill: yes :) thats the best way ^^
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> everyone, please use #kubuntu-offtopic for this
[05:29] <yaccin> BluesKaj: solitare is solitare... same rules... windows and linux :P
[05:29] <BluesKaj> FF and T-bird are np, we already have it on windows
[05:30] <BluesKaj> differnt games yaccin ...she plays 2 decks ...it's a specialized program
[05:30] <yaccin> ah ok
[05:30] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Solitare runs on wine.
[05:30] <yaccin> hehe
[05:30] <jhutchins> Lot's o' native linux card games.
[05:31] <BluesKaj> yeah , but wine is a poor substitute
[05:31] <yaccin> why do all women play solitare? :D
[05:31] <BluesKaj> I just let her run her -pc the way she wants ...and i have mine setup the way I like so it's not a problem.
[05:32] <yaccin> ah ok different pcs is always good :)
[05:33] <hatta> no kidding BluesKaj
[05:33] <BluesKaj> yeah , samba is setup nicely for sharing files and cups works well for printing so it's quite good ATM
[05:33] <hatta> hell hath no fury like a woman scorned by her computer
[05:33] <BluesKaj> hehe hatta :)
[05:33] <waylandbill> my daughter still runs windows. I would've switched hers too, but she's got the bigger mouth. :-)
[05:34] <Tanuva> reminds me of my sister :D
[05:34] <Tm_T> waylandbill: You know where to put the cork.
[05:34] <Alasdair_> hello
[05:35] <waylandbill> Tm_t: :)
[05:35] <BluesKaj> my kids all run windows and my youngest has an IMac. I'm the only linux soul in the family
[05:35] <rickvanniekerk> How do I get flash installed in opera?
[05:35] <Alasdair_> Has anyone got a moment to help with serious filesystem GRUB problems?
[05:35] <Tm_T> Glad I don't have kids, or otherwise I would need to keep over dozen pc up and running (Linux ofcourse).
[05:36] <Tm_T> Now 5 is enough for me. ;)
[05:37] <jhutchins> We've been all linux for about three or four years now.
[05:37] <BluesKaj> rick
[05:38] <BluesKaj> err rickvanniekerk , http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer
[05:38] <arriesp> bye
[05:38] <house> just installed kubunt, how doi install software gtk to be exact
[05:39] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, my kids are all grown and gone, so i don't have a pc sharing problem
[05:39] <knubbe> anyone who knows how i scan a computer for open ssh-ports using nmap?
[05:39] <Alasdair_> house, I've found the tutorials here (http://ubuntuguide.org/) great for installing software when you're just starting
[05:40] <BluesKaj> house, you can instll gtk software with adept or synaptic
[05:40] <BluesKaj> knubbe, are you using a router ?
[05:40] <comosicus> to properly install my language suport i must type in console something with -a or something like that......does someoane know for sure
[05:41] <knubbe> BluesKaj: no
[05:41] <BluesKaj> comosicus, which languge ?
[05:41] <Alasdair_> Anyone know about reinstalling GRUB?
[05:41] <comosicus> well....... spain
[05:41] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: :)
[05:41] <comosicus> spanish
[05:42] <jhutchins> !!packages | house
[05:42] <ubotu> house: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[05:42] <Mena> Azureuz!
[05:42] <Mena> !Azureuz
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azureuz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <waylandbill> Alasdair_: grub-install, but if you are having trouble you probably need to find out the problem in /boot/grub/menu.lst first.
[05:42] <jhutchins> !es | comosicus
[05:42] <ubotu> comosicus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:42] <BluesKaj> Alasdair_, the is a cd called Supergrub ...just google for it
[05:42] <Tm_T> Mena: No cursing please
[05:42] <stdin> Alasdair_: you can follow the guide for restoring grub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:42] <comosicus> k
[05:42] <Tm_T> !azureus > Mena
[05:43] <Mena> Tm_T, thanks
[05:44] <alexicon> what command will completely stop X. used to use an init.d script in gentoo..
[05:44] <alexicon> or rather to restart X i suppose
[05:44] <waylandbill>  /etc/init.d/kdm restart (or Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)
[05:44] <alexicon> cheers
[05:45] <Alasdair_> thanks, I think the problem may be more complicated than jsut a GRUB reinstall.  I may have corrupted my filesystem using "fsck -a -A" which I thought would fix some errors on it
[05:46] <shriphani> guys what are kde headers ?
[05:47] <stdin> shriphani: if you're compiling KDE apps, you'll need the package kde-devel
[05:47] <shriphani> ok
[05:47] <shriphani> 93 MB !!!!
[05:47] <Mena> How did fire fox didnt recognaize that Java is already installed
[05:47] <waylandbill> :)
[05:48] <waylandbill> shriphani: there's a little bit of code.
[05:48] <stdin> Mena: did you install the java plugin?
[05:48] <shriphani> and a huge amount of downloading to do ?
[05:49] <BluesKaj> Mena there's a java FF plugin , it's a seperate program
[05:49] <stdin> shriphani: yeah, but it's what you need to compile apps
[05:49] <Mena> stdin, not sure you mean from the adept fro firefox
[05:49] <Mena> for*
[05:49] <Mena> Blueskaj, ok
[05:49] <stdin> Mena: the package "sun-java5-plugin" from Adept
[05:49] <waylandbill> shriphani: I didn't really mean "little" ... I meant there's a bunch of code.
[05:49] <Mena> stdin, i installed 6
[05:50] <Mena> th same package but with last ver
[05:50] <sandro__> what multiverse - repo should i install to be able to get acroread(er) ?
[05:50] <stdin> Mena: ahh, good, then it's "sun-java6-plugin" from Adept
[05:50] <Mena> stdin ,yes
[05:50] <BluesKaj> Alasdair_, the Supergrub live cd should spot your problem and help you fix it
[05:51] <BluesKaj> !Supergrub
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <Mena> stdin, ok
[05:51] <BluesKaj> !Grub
[05:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:51] <stdin> sandro__: the package acroread is in the multiverse repo
[05:52] <sandro__> it should thats what the wiki tells me .. but adept does not find and in "Add/Remove Programs" its ghosted
[05:52] <stdin> Mena: you'll also have to make sure that you have the right java selected with the command "sudo update-alternatives --config java" from konsole
[05:52] <Mena> stdin, ok i will see that
[05:53] <stdin> sandro__: what architecture are you on? amd64 or i386 ?
[05:53] <NSCAD_Nathan> Hi, "File Sharing" is greyed out even in administrator mode I can see the simple/advanced, etc, options, but can't do anything with them.  Using Edgy.  Anyone know what the problem might be?
[05:53] <waylandbill> NSCAD_Nathan: you have installed samba?
[05:54] <NSCAD_Nathan> waylandbill - yes
[05:54] <sandro__> stdin: its an amd64
[05:54] <Alasdair_> Thanks for the GRUB hints.  At the moment I'm getting Error 17, which I think means it can't find a partition/disk to bot from
[05:54] <stdin> sandro__: ahh, it's only available for i386
[05:54] <Alasdair_> *boot
[05:55] <sandro__> eeek
[05:55] <sandro__> but thank you!
[05:55] <Alasdair_> I'm going to try TestDisk to try and restore the partition table
[05:55] <NSCAD_Nathan> hmm... actually only Samba-Common is installed... I'll try installing Samba itself
[05:55] <stdin> sandro__: why do you need acroread ?
[05:55] <sandro__> well to view .pdf files :)
[05:56] <NSCAD_Nathan> waylandbill - I guess that was the problem, weird.   I thought it was installed... durrrrh.
[05:56] <KiPSeRoN> kpdf
[05:56] <KiPSeRoN> xpdf
[05:56] <stdin> sandro__: you don't need acroread to view pdf files, kpdf works great
[05:56] <Dekans> is it possible ton set another file manager than konqueror as the default one ?
[05:56] <waylandbill> NSCAD_Nathan: good. it was easier than you thought. :-)
[05:56] <jhutchins> Dekans: Yes.
[05:57] <sandro__> on my way ... thanks again!
[05:57] <stdin> Dekans: it is possible, but not easy
[05:57] <stdin> sandro__: no problem :)
[05:57] <the_hammer> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.20-1-686-bigmem |  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2398.187 MHz | Bogomips: 4800.08 | Mem: 316/488M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 26.35G Free: 20.82G | Procs: 111 | Uptime: 6 mins 14 secs | Load: 0.21 0.63 0.38  | Vpenis: 34.8 cm | Screen: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth1: In: 0.69M Out: 0.15M
[05:57] <Alasdair_> bbl
[05:58] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Why the bigmem kernel if you only have <512M?
[05:58] <the_hammer> just fooling with a repo i found
[05:59] <yaccin> why does my CPU only run at 1.2 GHz when it could run at 2.2? yes, power is plugged in
[06:00] <the_hammer> add this into sources.list kabuntu 610 edgy deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ trunk main  and get more kernels
[06:00] <sandro__> ciao
[06:00] <stdin> the_hammer: why, I'm already on 2.6.20-9-generic
[06:01] <waylandbill> the_hammer: if you don't like the default one, then why not just build one tailored to your system?
[06:01] <the_hammer> i just like folling with stuff
[06:01] <the_hammer> follin*
[06:01] <the_hammer> bah foolin
[06:01] <stdin> heh
[06:02] <klestes> does anyone know where SDL is usually installed ?
[06:02] <BluesKaj> yaccin, it's the power saving feature built into ubuntu
[06:03] <yaccin> BluesKaj: but i think its always at 1.2
[06:03] <yaccin> hmm i try startinig vmware and look then ^^
[06:03] <Tanuva> klestes: locate sdl?
[06:03] <klestes> yes, the SDL library.
[06:03] <Tanuva> klestes: no, i mean you should use "locate" to find the sdl lib ;)
[06:04] <klestes> ah2:  I've learned something new :)
[06:04] <the_hammer> linux-source-2.6.20 trying this 1 out comes with debian patches
[06:04] <BluesKaj> yaccin, my CPU is adverted as 2ghz , but it runs at 1ghz cuz it doesn't need to run full at all times ...your will do the same . The CPU runs only at the speed required .
[06:05] <yaccin> still at 1.2... running windows 2000 in a VM now o.O
[06:05] <yaccin> hmm
[06:06] <BluesKaj> no matter it's still running in linux
[06:11] <koriel> sudo apt-get seems to have broken commit..how do I reset?
[06:11] <koriel> reconfigure?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> koriel:  broken pkgs or ?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> !adept-crash
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <BluesKaj> !crash
[06:18] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[06:18] <koriel> broken firefox actually
[06:19] <BluesKaj> broken how ?
[06:19] <BluesKaj> symptoms?
[06:19] <koriel> in package manager it's says broken
[06:19] <koriel> and when I try to reinstall some error popups
[06:20] <BluesKaj> adept ?
[06:20] <koriel> yes
[06:20] <BluesKaj> do you have synaptic installed?
[06:20] <koriel> no
[06:21] <ScarFreewill> how do i make links of folders eg "lk" but there was a parameter needed that i forgot
[06:21] <BluesKaj> koriel: try 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' in the terminal
[06:22] <stdin> ScarFreewill: symbolic links?
[06:22] <bonbonthejon> ScarFreewill: "ln -s"\
[06:22] <stdin> ScarFreewill: ln -s /path/to/target NameOfLink
[06:22] <ScarFreewill> stdin: bonbonthejon thx
[06:23] <stdin> :)
[06:23] <ScarFreewill> maybe the parameter was not the only thing i forgot :P i though it was some thing like lk -s :O
[06:24] <stdin> heh
[06:25] <BluesKaj> koriel:  do yo have synaptic installed ?
[06:25] <ScarFreewill> do you know of any stuff like teamspeak (i want an app that transports audio+text localy )
[06:31] <Am0s> =\
[06:31] <Am0s> It's not works =\
[06:33] <Am0s> The BIOS adapted for CD-ROM booting.
[06:33] <Cugel> re dudes.
[06:33] <Am0s> but it's running DR-DOS
[06:34] <Am0s> =\
[06:34] <Am0s> How can I cancel this DR-DOS
[06:34] <Am0s> ?
[06:34] <Am0s> It's make me crazy =\
[06:34] <Cugel> Dr DOS?
[06:35] <Am0s> I'm trying to boot Kubuntu installation CD
[06:35] <Am0s> And DR-DOS appears
[06:36] <CGG> mh?
[06:36] <Am0s> But the BIOS adapted for CD-ROM booting.
[06:36] <Am0s> I don't know what's going on =\
[06:36] <Am0s> How can I exit from DR-DOS
[06:36] <Am0s> =\
[06:37] <Am0s> someone? =\
[06:38] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu are you trying to install ...and from where did you DL iT , Am0s ?
[06:38] <jhutchins> Am0s: Ctrl-Alt-Del
[06:38] <Am0s> the latest version
[06:38] <BluesKaj> sounds like he has DR-DOS installed on the install disk
[06:38] <Am0s> jhutchins it's reboot the computer
[06:39] <jhutchins> Am0s: Right, that's how you exit DOS.
[06:39] <john> hmmm
[06:39] <Am0s> but it backs after it
[06:39] <Am0s> I downloaded it from the official site
[06:40] <BluesKaj> I suggest you DL another Kubuntu from a different site
[06:40] <Am0s> ?
[06:40] <Am0s> It's the same file
[06:41] <BluesKaj> you may have chosen the wrong distro , Am0s
[06:41] <Am0s> no
[06:41] <Am0s> sec...
[06:42] <Am0s> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:42] <BluesKaj> php? ...that's for handheld devices
[06:42] <Am0s> no.
[06:47] <john> anyone?
[06:47] <Am0s> =|
[06:48] <john> detects the IDE drive fine, but won't communicate with the sata drives at all, just gives a I/O error
[06:48] <pirothezero> cant say i've ever taken an existing array over to linux =/
[06:49] <Am0s> ??
[06:50] <house> does gtkpod work with kubuntu?
[06:51] <house> when i type "sudo apt-get install gtkpod" it says can't find
[06:56] <yaccin> fiyawerx: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:56] <Am0s> yaccin It is already enabled
[06:56] <yaccin> fiyawerx: search for: driver "nvidia"
[06:56] <yaccin> change to: driver "nv"
[06:56] <yaccin> retry
[06:56] <yaccin> ^^
[06:56] <jhutchins> !fixres
[06:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:56] <Am0s> yaccin It is already enabled
[06:57] <yaccin> Am0s: hmm
[06:57] <fiyawerx> yaccin: that worked
[06:57] <yaccin> maybe you have to press F12 or something on startup and select it there, too?
[06:57] <yaccin> fiyawerx: so your graphics card drivers are broken
[06:57] <Am0s> I have tried
[06:58] <yaccin> reinstall nvidia-glx or nvidia-legacy (depends on your graphics card)
[06:58] <Am0s> Long hours I have tried :S
[06:58] <yaccin> Am0s: hmm
[06:58] <yaccin> its hard to give help on that over the web ^^
[06:58] <fiyawerx> nvidia-glx i believe, whast the apt-get command to reinstall? just apt-get reinstall nvidia-glx?
[06:58] <jhutchins> fiyawerx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:58] <jhutchins> Sorry, took me a minute to find that.
[06:59] <Am0s> No one knows =\
[06:59] <fiyawerx> i think that just recreates the xorg.conf? not reinstalls the dirvers
[06:59] <fiyawerx> doesn't it?
[06:59] <jhutchins> Am0s: Watch the boot process, it should tell you what it's booting from.
[06:59] <yaccin> fiyawerx: no that reinstalls driver
[06:59] <jhutchins> Am0s: You want the CD to be the _first_ boot device.
[06:59] <fiyawerx> ok
[06:59] <yaccin> you have to change driver "nvidia" after that is done
[06:59] <jhutchins> Am0s: It's possible your CD is not good and you're falling through to something else.
[06:59] <yaccin> and it "should" work
[07:00] <house> I am trying to install software and i keep getting told can't find
[07:00] <Am0s> :S
[07:00] <yaccin> house: what software?
[07:00] <jhutchins> fiyawerx: You probably need to regenerate the xorg.conf file more than you need to reinstall the drivers.
[07:00] <house> house@house-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:00] <house> Reading package lists... Done
[07:00] <house> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:00] <house> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[07:00] <yaccin> !azureus
[07:00] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[07:00] <atidem> hello
[07:00] <fiyawerx> ok, done, brb
[07:00] <yaccin> not every programm is in the repos ^^
[07:00] <jhutchins> fiyawerx: SOrr, I was looking for that command, I see you _do_need to re-do the drivers.
[07:01] <jhutchins> Shoot.
[07:01] <BluesKaj> fiyawerx: cd /etc/X11
[07:02] <SlimG> Anyone know of a winxp bootsplash screen clone for kubuntu (not for myself)?
[07:02] <BluesKaj> oops
[07:02] <Am0s> =\
[07:03] <manchicken> SlimG: Why would you want one?
[07:03] <jhutchins> SlimG: What would such a thing accomplish?
[07:03] <jhutchins> You want to fake people into thinking it's booting XP instead of Linux?
[07:03] <manchicken> jhutchins: Trademark infringement :P
[07:04] <jhutchins> manchicken: Only by the distributor of the thing.
[07:04] <BluesKaj> jhutchins: I had the same prob as fiyawerks did and used a previous xorg.conf file from a different date and that helped me startX
[07:04] <SlimG> manchicken and jhutchins: trying to trick my father into using linux, he says it sucks althou he has never tried it.
[07:04] <house> any reason I keep getting error "couldn't find packages " when I apt-get install?
[07:04] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yeah, I thought maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would help.
[07:04] <manchicken> jhutchins: Isn't that what he was asking for? :P
[07:05] <manchicken> SlimG: Trickery isn't a good way to get your point across.
[07:05] <Am0s> Arg... I really want to install the Kubuntu =\ and it's imposible because of that DRDOS
[07:05] <house> amI doing something wrong?
[07:05] <manchicken> SlimG: Try using a live CD to let him try it.
[07:05] <jhutchins> SlimG: Well, you can customize the boot spalsh stuff, but you'd have to do it yourself.
[07:05] <yaccin> house: add repositorys
[07:06] <jhutchins> Am0s: Did you check your BIOS settings?  Did you verify the CD?
[07:06] <Am0s> yes
[07:06] <Mena> House,  enable the univers and multinverse packages
[07:06] <BluesKaj> house , you need more repos in your sources list ,or uncomment (take away the # in front of the .deb sources) the deb universe multiverse sources
[07:06] <SlimG> jhutchins: there's alreade xp themes and kdm themes, is there any different from bootsplash?
[07:06] <jhutchins> Am0s: It's not a kubuntu problem, as much as we'd like to help you.  You could probably try burning a different iso image - maybe the alt CD?
[07:06] <jhutchins> SlimG: Sure.
[07:06] <house> mena how?
[07:07] <jhutchins> bootsplash themes.
[07:07] <jhutchins> !packages
[07:07] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:07] <Am0s> What is the alternative CD?
[07:07] <yaccin> jhutchins: kde-look.org has some
[07:07] <house> blueskaj : how do i do that?
[07:07] <yaccin> you can alter one of them if you dont find the one your looking for
[07:07] <SlimG> Am0s: text installer instead of graphical installer.
[07:07] <jhutchins> Am0s: One that offers different boot and install options.
[07:07] <cntb> !alternate  > Am0s
[07:07] <Am0s> :O
[07:08] <yaccin> !alternate | Am0s
[07:08] <ubotu> Am0s: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:08] <cntb> !alternatives
[07:08] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[07:08] <BluesKaj> !repositories | house
[07:08] <ubotu> house: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:09] <jhutchins> Am0s: Have you updated your BIOS to the latest available?
[07:09] <SlimG> I can't find xp bootsplash theme at kde-look, so I hoped anyone here might know of one
[07:09] <jhutchins> SlimG: There's this great web site for finding stuff like that: http://www.google.com
[07:10] <yaccin> SlimG: use one from kde-look.org and alter it
[07:10] <Mena> there is themes for bootsplash
[07:10] <Mena> did you checked all section
[07:10] <Mena> s
[07:10] <Am0s> Where can I download the text installation?
[07:11] <Am0s> jhutchins ?
[07:11] <Am0s> jhutchins Update BIOS?
[07:11] <Am0s> jhutchins wth? :S
[07:12] <jhutchins> Am0s: Read your motherboard docs.  You should always check for a BIOS update on a new PC.
[07:12] <jhutchins> ESPECIALLY if you are having CD boot issues.
[07:12] <Am0s> motherboard?
[07:13] <jhutchins> Am0s: You do have a motherboard, right?
[07:13] <Am0s> What is it?
[07:13] <Am0s> ahhhhhhhhh
[07:13] <Am0s> motherboard
[07:13] <Am0s> LOL
[07:13] <Am0s> yes
[07:13] <jhutchins> the motherboard is what the daughterboards plug into.
[07:14] <jhutchins> Although these days we tend to call them cards and modules.
[07:14] <Am0s> yes I know but I don't know the word in English lol
[07:14] <yaccin> mainboard ^^
[07:14] <jhutchins> That's cool, I was just playin' with you.
[07:14] <Am0s> ?
[07:14] <yaccin> mainboard = motherboard
[07:15] <jhutchins> Yep, says right here on the cover, "Motherboard".
[07:15] <cntb> Am0s: PM ^^
[07:16] <Am0s> ok But where I can find updates for this -_-
[07:16] <jhutchins> Am0s: Motherboard manufacturer's website.
[07:16] <Am0s> ASUS
[07:17] <jhutchins> http://www.asus.com
[07:17] <house> what do i need to do so i can install packages'
[07:17] <jhutchins> !packages | house
[07:17] <ubotu> house: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:17] <apokryphos> !faq
[07:17] <Am0s> but there are many types of ASUS mainboards...
[07:17] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[07:18] <house> but i keep getting error saying couldnt find packages
[07:18] <yaccin> house: you need the right repos!
[07:18] <Mena> keep sure that thet apakage name is right
[07:18] <yaccin> not every software package is in the repos you have enabled!
[07:18] <yaccin> enable more repositorys!
[07:19] <house> ok so how do i fix this i want to install gtkpod
[07:19] <house> how do enable repositories?
[07:19] <yaccin> !gtkpod
[07:19] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[07:19] <jhutchins> !easysource | house
[07:19] <ubotu> house: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:19] <yaccin> gtkpod should be by "sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[07:20] <house> it says couldnt find package when i type that
[07:20] <Mena> house , take this list and the lines with univers and mutliverse copy them and put them insteed of others in the same place
[07:20] <jhutchins> house: You need to enable some of the extra repositories, like universe or multiverse.
[07:20] <yaccin> house: sudo apt-get update
[07:20] <yaccin> before that
[07:20] <jhutchins> yaccin: Enable the repos before that.
[07:20] <Am0s> but there are many types of ASUS mainboards...
[07:20] <jhutchins> !repositories | house
[07:20] <ubotu> house: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:20] <Sanne> Wow, I didn't know about the apt:/ url in konqueror, how cool is that? Learn something new everyday :)
[07:21] <elbing> house, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:21] <jhutchins> Am0s: Yeah.  So?
[07:21] <Am0s> :S
[07:21] <house> how do i enable repositories?
[07:21] <Mena_> house, take the list
[07:21] <cntb> Am0s:  ?
[07:21] <Mena_> house, did you accept
[07:22] <BluesKaj> gawd
[07:22] <cntb> !printing
[07:22] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:22] <jhutchins> Am0s: If all else fails, open the case and look at the board, Asus always silkscreens the model on the board.
[07:22] <house> mena yes
[07:22] <yaccin> Sanne: wow
[07:22] <Mena_> house, open it and you will se lines with universe and multivrse
[07:22] <yaccin> didnt knew that either
[07:22] <yaccin> :D
[07:22] <Sanne> yaccin: it's great, isn't it?
[07:22] <Mena_> house, take then copy
[07:23] <Mena_> house, them*
[07:23] <Mena_> house, then open do this
[07:23] <yaccin> yes it is :D
[07:23] <Mena_> house, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:23] <house> I just needed to run apt-get update,,,,thanks
[07:23] <Mena_> in the terminal or prees alt+f2
[07:23] <Mena_> house, okay
[07:24] <Mena_> house, you are welcome
[07:24] <Mena_> house, in any way keep the lst you may need it
[07:25] <cntb> hi who is able to watch this http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/live_tv.html on FF2 ? totem mms error
[07:27] <Mena_> cntb, i dont know much about totem player
[07:27] <Mena_> cntb, did you try to use mplayer
[07:27] <jhutchins> cntb: Are you trying flash or windows media?
[07:27] <jhutchins> cntb: I've got it working on konqueror runing on xfce.
[07:27] <jack> hi
[07:27] <cntb> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/live_tv.html jhutchins
[07:27] <jhutchins> totem didn't work for me.
[07:27] <cntb> OK jhutchins how
[07:27] <Mena_> cntb, mplayer works
[07:27] <jhutchins> cntb: Not sure which that defaults to, probably real.
[07:27] <Mena_> i am running it now
[07:28] <cntb> I have helix
[07:28] <jack> how can i make firestarter start with not asking for my password AS root and with a hidden window?
[07:29] <Erunno> jack: Why not use guarddog under KDE ?
[07:29] <jhutchins> cntb: Check the "other playing options" tab and see if either one works for you.  You need to have the java plugin as well for that main page.
[07:29] <BluesKaj> cntb:  runs ok ...i found that the VLC plugin in FF was overiding the mplayer plugin that is used for most windows media
[07:30] <Am0s> jhutchins How can I know which mainboard I have?
[07:30] <jhutchins> [12:22]  <jhutchins> Am0s: If all else fails, open the case and look at the board, Asus always silkscreens the model on the board.
[07:30] <leopartux> hi  i have installed kubuntu and i want to download turkish language support
[07:31] <Am0s> :|
[07:31] <Mena_> also when you astart the pc you will see a black image and written on it asusu
[07:31] <panda> Salut tout le monde !!
[07:31] <panda> Hi all !
[07:31] <Cugel> hello.
[07:31] <Mena_> hi panda
[07:31] <UnixNold> hi all
[07:31] <jhutchins> panda: Salut!
[07:31] <Mena_> Cugel , this is french :D
[07:31] <panda> It's the official chanel for ubuntu ??
[07:31] <jack> Erunno no experience with it, is it better?
[07:32] <Cugel> mena: you're learning fast ;-)
[07:32] <jhutchins> panda: The official English channel, yes.  Would you like French?
[07:32] <cntb> !java
[07:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:32] <leopartux> will i open add remove programs
[07:32] <Cugel> panda: go right ahead, we're all experts (well, no)
[07:32] <|lostbyte|> Whats the gui for session startup in kde ?
[07:32] <Mena_> Cugel , heheh i take a lessons in french but on shool for three years hehehe
[07:32] <Erunno> jack: I don't use either but guarddog ist at least qt based.
[07:32] <Cugel> lostbyte: folder Autostart in /home/yourname/.kde
[07:32] <Sanne> panda: this is #kubuntu (for Kde desktop). There's also #ubuntu (Gnome desktop).
[07:32] <Mena_> Cugel , but i dont remeber it well
[07:33] <panda> excuse me because i'm a newb, but if i want chat with Mirc, I can ??
[07:33] <Cugel> panda: well, not really, since Mirc is a Windows only program.
[07:33] <jack> erunno..most of the ubuntu literature is about firestarter thats why i thought it might be most advanced
[07:34] <Cugel> But I recommend Konversation, which looks very similar at least.
[07:34] <jhutchins> panda: there's also xchat and kopete.
[07:34] <panda> Yes cugel but it's a IRC Channel !!
[07:34] <Am0s> jhutchins So I need to restart my computer to check it?
[07:34] <jhutchins> panda: konversation's very like mirc, as is xchat.
[07:34] <Cugel> panda: eh, yes it is, what's your point?
[07:34] <|lostbyte|> Anyone, how do you guys edit the session start up?
[07:34] <panda> oki jhutchin !
[07:35] <Mena_> cntb, if you want install jave do this in terminal sudo apt-get install sun-java(VERSION)-bin
[07:35] <jhutchins> Am0s: That's one way.  I often open my case while I'm running, but I take risks.
[07:35] <Erunno> jack: Both firestarter and guarddog are only GUI frontends for the kernel firewall iptables
[07:35] <Mena_> cntb, you have java5 and java6 to install as i guess
[07:35] <snama> hey whats up?
[07:35] <BluesKaj> Konverstion doesn't have a deafult server list ...that's my only peeve , but otherwise it's great
[07:35] <jhutchins> Actually, you don't need the whole java install, just the pluggin.
[07:35] <Am0s> I don't think that it will help me to install Kubuntu :S
[07:36] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: That depends on the distro <grin>.
[07:36] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  unless he palns on using azureus
[07:36] <stdin> BluesKaj: konversation (from the repos) does, irc.ubuntu.com (freenode)
[07:36] <panda> It's a good chat ;)
[07:36] <jermain> :)
[07:36] <Mena_> jhutchins,  this it if he needed it
[07:36] <snama>  yes
[07:36] <cntb> tyvm
[07:36] <Am0s> :)
[07:36] <jhutchins> Am0s: Actually, I was just trying to give you something constructive to do that would probably help you discover where DR-DOS is coming from - cause it's NOT coming from the kubuntu iso.
[07:37] <BluesKaj> stdin:  really ? din't know that ...thx for the tip
[07:37] <jermain> guys i have a question, can someone explain the following line to me?
[07:37] <jack> Erunno ok, i give guarddog a try, but i dont think it would solve the problem that i dont wnat to enter the root pwd every single sessions, would it?
[07:37] <jermain> du -s /home/* | sort -nr
[07:37] <stdin> BluesKaj: :-)
[07:37] <jermain> im doing a tutorial
[07:37] <snama> hey doesn anyone know why its so slow to send and recieve files through kopete? msn protocol
[07:37] <jermain> and cant figure it out on my own
[07:37] <cntb> !il
[07:37] <ubotu>         :
[07:37] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[07:37] <Mena_> !kopote
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Mena_> !kopete
[07:37] <stdin> BluesKaj: it also defaults to joining this channel
[07:37] <panda> Excuse but i search a #paris chanel, what can i do ????
[07:37] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[07:38] <Mena_> snama, go here #kopete
[07:38] <Erunno> jack: Sorry, can't help you with that. I know a site with intructions how to accomplish this for firestarter/GNOME but it's in german.
[07:38] <jhutchins> jermain: That lists the Disk Usage of teh files in /home/ and sorts by size.
[07:38] <Sanne> jermain: you can always do: 'man <command>' to read the manpage of a command, or mostly also: <command> --help
[07:38] <jack> erunno i speak german, but i use kde
[07:38] <snama> hehe i got winrar through wine
[07:38] <Erunno> jack: actually, you don'T need the firestarter/guarddog running once the firewall is configured.
[07:38] <Crow> Is there a way I can see directories size in command line?
[07:39] <jermain> Sanne: thanks, i'll get on it ^^
[07:39] <jack> erunno really?
[07:39] <chavo> Crowls -l
[07:39] <jack> erunno what should i have in preferences then?
[07:39] <chavo> Crow ls -l sorry
[07:39] <panda> ....plz i want go to the #paris chanel than mIRC, what can i do !!!!!!!
[07:39] <Erunno> jack: As far as I know the changes are committed to the iptables directly, which is always active.
[07:39] <jhutchins> Crow: If you want to know how much space the files in the dir's are taking up, use du.
[07:39] <stdin> panda: type: /join #paris
[07:39] <Sanne> jermain: this character: "|" is a so called pipe. That means, get the output from the previous command and put it into the next command
[07:39] <jack> ok thx erunno
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[07:40] <jhutchins> panda: Probably /join #paris.
[07:40] <Am0s> ARGGGGGGGGGGGG
[07:40] <Mena_> Is there a way to export the channel list
[07:40] <jhutchins> In konversation we could just click on the highlighted channel name.
[07:40] <Erunno> jack: you can give it a try yourself by completely blocking all traffic, turning off guarddog/firestarter and see if you can get any connection over the network ;-)
[07:41] <Am0s> I hate DR-DOS
[07:41] <jhutchins> Mena_: Most networks have a searchable, savable list on their webpage.
[07:41] <Mena_> jhutchins, ok
[07:41] <Mena_> :)
[07:42] <panda> but there are nobody !! i don't uderstand because there are a lot of peaple alway !
[07:42] <Mena_> panda, mayabe no one make a channel called paris
 it is not working... I get numbers which are way too small (home is 4096?! )
[07:43] <panda> oki thank's
[07:43] <The_Machine> latest ICAclient isn't working for me
[07:43] <The_Machine> i can launch it
[07:43] <The_Machine> but when i open a session i get this:  awatson@AlexUbuntu:/usr/lib/ICAClient$ ./wfcmgr
[07:43] <The_Machine> Error: 245 (E_LOCKDOWN_ERROR_INI_NO_EQUALS)
[07:43] <The_Machine> Please refer to the documentation.
[07:43] <The_Machine> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[07:43] <The_Machine> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[07:43] <The_Machine> Error: Aborting: no fontset found
[07:44] <The_Machine> dammit
[07:44] <The_Machine> i meant to paste my link
[07:44] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=74826
[07:44] <The_Machine> dammit.  Sorry.
[07:44] <The_Machine> heh
[07:44] <Am0s> ?!
[07:44] <The_Machine> :))
[07:44] <chavo> Crow, sorry that's not gonna work for dirextories. do->  du -h dirictory
[07:44] <The_Machine> could someone help me?
[07:44] <The_Machine> i really need citrix access :P
[07:45] <BluesKaj> stdin:  in which repos is that version of Konversation ?
[07:45] <JuJuBee> I have a classroom and wish to lock the desktop picture to be a certain logo for all login accounts.  How do I lock it so the students cannot change their desktop background?
[07:45] <stdin> BluesKaj: it's in main
[07:45] <doktormiod> When i put cursor on icon of photo or document with long name it doesn't show me full name or small copy of this picture - does anybody know how to turn it on?
[07:45] <stdin> BluesKaj: I run the cvs version tho
[07:46] <Erunno> Does anyone use feisty ? Someone wrote on the forums that the reaction time got improved recently. Can anybody confirm this ?
[07:46] <jermain> sanne: i figured it out for the most part, thank you but i still have one question
[07:46] <jermain> in du -s /home/* | sort -nr what does /home/* do?
[07:46] <stdin> Erunno: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu-devel
[07:46] <Crow> thanks chavo
[07:47] <Erunno> stdin: kk, thanks for the hint :-)
[07:47] <jack> hi, even though i click on remember password in kopete it asks me every single time..and it is stored in the wallet too,does anyone know ehere the problem is?
[07:48] <The_Machine> erm..
[07:48] <hexadecimal> hi!
[07:48] <Erunno> jack: Yeah, I had this problem. I had to delete the wallet manually. It created then a new one. After that it worked.
[07:48] <The_Machine> hi hexadecimal
[07:48] <hexadecimal> someone from chile?
[07:48] <rolando> can i use vmware right after installation or some other tweaking is necessary?
[07:48] <stdin> !vmware
[07:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[07:49] <jack> erunno how do i delete the wallet?
[07:50] <The_Machine> little help with broken ICAClient?  :)
[07:51] <Erunno> jack: goto /home/$username/.kde/share/apps/ and delete the kwallet directory. Be warned, all your passwords will be lost then.
[07:51] <Erunno> jack: Better make a backup first, just in case.
[07:51] <jack> erunno can i just rename the wallet or change the location?
[07:52] <Erunno> jack: Hm, no idea. Just move the the directory kwallet to a place outside of .kde just to be sure.
[07:54] <Am0s> jhutchins =\
[07:54] <Mena_> jack , top open the wallet kwalletmanager
[07:54] <Mena_> to*
[07:55] <jack> mena thanks i did it manually now
[07:55] <Mena_> ok
[07:55] <Erunno> jack: Keep me informed if it kwallet works now, I'm curious if this solution works in general or just in my case.
[07:55] <doktormiod> Hey, when I put cursor on the icon with very long name i can't see the full name of this document - how can i turn it on?
[07:55] <Am0s> !exe
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <Mena> !wine
[07:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:56] <jack> erunno i tell you tomorrow or when i see you cos i cannot logout at the moment
[07:56] <Am0s> I want Kubuntu :{
[07:57] <jack> dont change your name hehe erunno
[07:57] <Am0s> F*cking DR DOS
[07:57] <Mena> !ping
[07:57] <ubotu> pong
[07:57] <Erunno> jack: I'm use this nickname everywhere, reminds you to write sensible things so people won't think you're a complete retard ;-)
[07:58] <Erunno> *I use...
[07:58] <Mena> !kubuntu | Am0s
[07:58] <ubotu> Am0s: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:58] <jack> erunno hehe ok
[07:58] <Mena> heheh :d
[07:58] <Mena> :D
[07:58] <Am0s> lol mena I know I know
[07:58] <Sanne> jermain: oh my, I didn't catch your question, sorry! Do you still need an answer?
[08:01] <Sanne> jermain: 'du -s /home/*', the /home/* means, apply the 'du -s' command to all files in the /home directory.
[08:02] <jack> if i choose add delicious to submenu in the konqueror its not a really helpfuladd-on like in firefox you cannot work with it at all, does anybody know how to get an addon like the firefox addon for delicious with a tag button ?
[08:05] <misha> can anyone reccommend a text editor?
[08:05] <Mena> i guess kate is the best
[08:06] <jermain> sanne: thank you ^^ i couldnt figure out what the wildcard was for, but now i know
[08:06] <Sanne> misha: +1 for kate from me also
[08:06] <Mena> misha, you already have kate in utilites with kubuntu
[08:06] <thelostbyte_> Where is the session config file ?
[08:07] <Sanne> jermain: you're welcome :)
[08:10] <apol> do you know how can i do
[08:10] <Sanne> misha: if you don't need multiple document support, you might also try kwrite, a lighter sister to kate.
[08:10] <apol> to make that window borders are not round?
[08:10] <Mena> Sanne, nice comment
[08:10] <Mena> hheheheh :)
[08:11] <Sanne> Mena: :)
[08:11] <mefisto__> I don't get it
[08:12] <Sanne> apol: System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations. Here you can configure your window decoration style or choose another one.
[08:13] <panda> ok, if i wa,t chat with american or russe or another counter, what do I do ???
[08:13] <miguel_> Hola a todos tengo un problema con una webcam Creative Nx pro en Kubuntu edgy. Alguien puede ayudarme?
[08:14] <apol> Sanne: my problem is that I what that when I click the screen corner the window closes
[08:14] <Mena> do this for example   !fr
[08:15] <Mena> !eng
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <Mena> !en
[08:15] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:15] <Sanne> apol: Sounds weird, don't think I understand completely. Can you explain a bit more?
[08:16] <apol> yes
[08:16] <rolando> miguel_: very facil
[08:17] <apol> if I click the upper right screen corner (on the top-right) I click the desktop
[08:17] <apol> because the window decoration is round
[08:18] <fiyawerx> hey guys.. i think i've messed up my graphics drivers, I tried installing the nvidia drivers from their site, and after an install, startx works beautifully.. after I reboot, errors and no X
[08:18] <miguel_> Alguien habla espaol?
[08:18] <apol> miguel_: !es
[08:18] <apol> !es
[08:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:19] <fiyawerx> so I've gone back and installed nvidia-glx, ran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and chosen "nv", and x loasd
[08:19] <fiyawerx> but now I have no glx
[08:19] <masta> Need help with kaffine codec's the links provided dont work
[08:19] <miguel_> Hola apol podrias ayudarme con un problema?
[08:19] <masta> where can I get codecs for playin mp3/mp4 files?
[08:19] <masta> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:19] <fiyawerx> !mp3
[08:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:19] <apol> miguel_, debes ir a kubuntu-es, aqui solo se puede hablar en ingles
[08:19] <Mena> !codecs
[08:20] <Sanne> apol: ok, I see :). I would check in System Settings (... where I said) if there's an option to disable the roundness for your window decoration style (for example in the Polyester style, you can uncheck round corners). If there isn't, choose another style, most aren't round.
[08:20] <masta> !es
[08:20] <miguel_> gracias amigos (thanks friends)
[08:20] <masta> go there for help if you cant speak english
[08:21] <panda> ok, if i wa,t chat with american or russe or another country, what do I do ???
[08:21] <apol> Sanne: I use crystal
[08:21] <masta> i have all my pkg's on uni rest & multi
[08:22] <Mena> panda, waht do you mean if you mean yu want support in your languge do as !(lang) if you want just chat i dont know how to search maybe some one else will help
[08:22] <apol> Sanne: Polyester doesn't have round corners but has the same problem
[08:22] <leopartux> how can i install turkish language support to kubuntu?
[08:23] <Mena> Sanne, maybe he means bottoms
[08:23] <panda> ok, Mena ;)
[08:23] <Sanne> apol: Polyester has round corners for me :). And Crystal has options for round corners.
[08:23] <Mena> panda, ok :-)
[08:23] <Sanne> Mena: oh! apol, do you mean the buttons? close, minimize, restore buttons?
[08:23] <masta> I hate launching amrook :(
[08:23] <masta> armorok*
[08:24] <Mena> masta, use kmplayer
[08:24] <leopartux> i use web window decaration
[08:24] <apol> I mean that when I click the corner I want the window to be closed
[08:24] <leopartux> it has rounded corners
[08:25] <Sanne> apol: hmmm, I just see in Polyester you can uncheck round corners, and make the frame width 1 pixel, then maximize the button size. that might be the best you can get.
[08:25] <Mena> in the dec option you will find bottoms see it might help
[08:26] <cntb> can I install xerox printer trhu kcontrol?
[08:26] <masta> kmplayer causes my screen to flash & wont play
[08:26] <masta> I mean cuts my screen off for a sec*
[08:26] <house> can someone help me get gtkpod working?
[08:27] <house> Icant get it to see my ipod
[08:27] <masta> Kmplayer bad, evil
[08:27] <Mena> heheh i just suggest :)
[08:27] <apol> Sanne: I know it can be done :P, anyway thanks!
[08:27] <Sanne> apol: good luck, you're welocme :)
[08:27] <masta> I ran it & my screen cuts off for a sec or 2 when I try play a mp3 :P
[08:28] <masta> and doesnt play the mp3 lol
[08:28] <Am0s> lol
[08:28] <Mena> !amarok-plugins
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok-plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Mena> !amarok-plugin
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <BluesKaj> stdin:  where would i find the default server list in Konversation ?
[08:28] <masta> im trying amarok
[08:28] <masta> not working I d/led the mp3 plugin already
[08:29] <masta> the name is wrong anyway
[08:29] <masta> its called amoncrack :P
[08:29] <Mena> ok
[08:30] <masta> omg its still gettin the plugin :P
[08:30] <masta> its why I use kaffine :P
[08:30] <masta> until I get winamplinux :)
[08:30] <Mena> is there winamo for linux !!
[08:30] <masta> I belive so
[08:30] <Mena> winamp*
[08:31] <masta> error libwhatever extra's codec needs install manualy
[08:31] <masta> aw hell I get winamp :P
[08:31] <masta> lmao errors & says its installed omg lol
[08:31] <masta> WOW sad
[08:32] <BluesKaj> mplayer is supposed to give winamp support but my experience shows otherwise
[08:32] <masta> is amarock a windows product LOL
[08:32] <leopartux> what is the command for installing kde-i18n-tr package
[08:32] <Mena> Blueskaj, mplayer window looks bad
[08:33] <leopartux> i opened add remove program but i couldnt find that package
[08:34] <BluesKaj> !winamp
[08:34] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[08:34] <BluesKaj> aha!
[08:34] <masta> but the actual winamp is also for linux
[08:34] <Mena> ohhh yes xmms
[08:34] <masta> xmms good one
[08:35] <Mena> i dont knwo
[08:35] <Mena> i installed it
[08:35] <Mena> but didnt use
[08:35] <Mena> its window looks good
[08:35] <Mena> try it any way
[08:35] <leopartux> adept ......... kde-i18n-tr   can you help meee
[08:35] <masta> I gotta install mine but im updating my stuff again :P
[08:35] <Tm_T> Amarok <3
[08:35] <masta> amarock = amoncrack
[08:35] <jhutchins> leopartux: You may need to enable more repositories, but sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-tr
[08:35] <masta> wont even populate a playlist :(
[08:36] <Tm_T> masta: Well, it's not applications fault, IMO.
[08:36] <jhutchins> masta: Works great on both my Mandriva 2007 boxes and my kubuntu box.
[08:36] <jhutchins> Plays streams, does a great random play of my 3,000+ collection.
[08:36] <BluesKaj> I've had success streaming with amarok  form shoutcast etc but i still prefer streamtuner for networkstreaming
[08:36] <Mena> !gstream
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <jhutchins> Yeah, streamtuner's good.  Should be able to get it to play using amarok.
[08:37] <|lostbyte|> Any beryl users here ?
[08:37] <masta> yes it is, new installed os like 4th time I had issues with armarock
[08:37] <|lostbyte|> !aquamarine
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <|lostbyte|> !find aquamarine
[08:37] <Tm_T> !beryl | |lostbyte|
[08:37] <masta> armarock = amoncrack :P trust me I having probs installin codecs popualting playlist & listening to mp3's it SUX
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> !beryl
[08:38] <ubotu> Package/file aquamarine does not exist in edgy
[08:38] <ubotu> |lostbyte|: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:38] <jhutchins> masta: It's not amarok's fault.
[08:38] <Dieguito> kjb
[08:38] <jhutchins> masta: That's what we're telling you.
[08:38] <Dieguito> alguien que habla castellano
[08:38] <Dieguito> qualcuno che parla italiano?
[08:38] <masta> !es
[08:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:38] <jhutchins> masta: Besides which, there's the #amarok support channel - not that attitude will get you any help there.
[08:38] <masta> !dego
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <leopartux> thanks jhutchins
[08:38] <masta> !it
[08:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:39] <Tm_T> masta: Stop fishing.
[08:39] <masta> Never
[08:39] <masta> I rather fish then work
[08:39] <Tm_T> Then go fishing private.
[08:39] <masta> Tm_T what u smokin?? fishing?
[08:40] <masta> u can fish on irc??
[08:40] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[08:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:40] <masta> virtual bass & such PPFFT
[08:40] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  i tried changing the default player in streamtuner from xmms to amarok but it's a no go ...any suggestions ?
[08:40] <yaccin> masta: you can
[08:40] <yaccin> :D
[08:40] <Mena> masta, press on ubotu name and go private there and ask as you want
[08:40] <Mena> :)
[08:41] <yaccin> !streamtuner
[08:41] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Hm.  Probably need to pass a particular string to amarok to get it to play a stream.
[08:41] <ubotu> streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 606 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[08:41] <masta> HELLO person in sanish didnt resond to trhe es I sted several times cus he spoken spanish in an english chan
[08:41] <masta> someone speakin italian I directed him to the italian channel
[08:41] <masta> Fishing NO
[08:41] <yaccin> streamtuner = webradio?
[08:41] <jhutchins> yaccin: Yeah, pretty much.
[08:41] <masta> I didnt ask the Bot anything
[08:41] <Mena> hmmm !!!!!!
[08:42] <yaccin> jhutchins: hmm... okay... ill ook at it when im home :D
[08:42] <jhutchins> yaccin: It's pretty cool.
[08:42] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  I had amaork working as the streamtuner default player in dapper but hav't been able to in edgy.
[08:42] <Adydas> whats the command to "modprobe" xwindows
[08:42] <jhutchins> Who knows.
[08:42] <masta> thank you BluesKaj proven my point armarock sucks
[08:43] <jhutchins> Adydas: What do you want to end up with?
[08:43] <Mena> i give my voice to kmplayer after install mplayer and use its engine
[08:43] <masta> meh I know xmms well :P I like it, but thx for offer
[08:43] <Mena> i use kmplayer as my default player for asudio files
[08:43] <jhutchins> masta: Please stop saying that.  You're wrong.  It works great for most of us.  You've broken something, it's not Amarok's fault.
[08:43] <Mena> so lets end this :=
[08:44] <jhutchins> masta: If you want help fixing it, ask questions here or in #amarok, but don't go around saying bad things about it because YOU can't figure it out.
[08:45] <Adydas> jhutchins: a screen resolutions higher than 640x480
[08:45] <masta> when did winamp stop supporting linux?/ I remember when the 4x ver winamp used to have linux d/l :(
[08:45] <Adydas> i turned it on and thats what i got.. no idea why
[08:45] <masta> might of been 3x :P
[08:45] <Adydas> system settings its greyed out..
[08:45] <jhutchins> Adydas: Possibly you need a special driver for your video card.  Let me give you a couple of links.
[08:45] <Adydas> no its installed
[08:45] <jhutchins> !fixres | Adydas
[08:45] <Adydas> nvidia
[08:45] <ubotu> Adydas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <jhutchins> !ati | Adydas
[08:45] <ubotu> Adydas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:45] <BluesKaj> amarok works fine on my pc, masta ...it just won't work in streamtuner cuz it's not compatible streamtuners streams , that's all
[08:46] <jhutchins> Adydas: The reason I'm sending you those is because xwindows is not a kernel module that you use modprobe with.
[08:46] <jhutchins> Adydas: There's more to it than that.
[08:46] <stdin> BluesKaj: sorry, was eating :P it's at /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/konversationrc (from the kubuntu-default-settings package)
[08:46] <Adydas> i ran a commadn a week or 2 ago very simlar to modprobe and it made a backup xorg file and fixed it.
[08:47] <cntb> rights for cups in wizard ?
[08:47] <jhutchins> Adydas:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:47] <Adydas> thats it
[08:47] <NSCAD_Nathan> Is there a way to have Desktop Sharing automatically accept incoming requests?
[08:47] <NSCAD_Nathan> Right now it pops up a window asking if I want to allow the user
[08:47] <jhutchins> cntb: THis may help:  http://jhutchins.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html#5490596791667121960
[08:48] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: Have you checked the manpage?
[08:48] <cntb> tyvm jhutchins
[08:48] <jhutchins> THat should be possible, it is with tightvnc.
[08:48] <jhutchins> NSCAD_Nathan: They just make it a little difficult for security reasons.
[08:48] <epimeth> ahoyhoy
[08:49] <cntb> epimeth
[08:49] <NSCAD_Nathan> jhutchins - makes sense.  I was just wondering if it was possible before I go digging through man pages :)
[08:49] <Mena> WoW
[08:49] <cntb> split
[08:49] <lula> hi
[08:49] <lula> i'm new
[08:50] <Mena> Lula, Hi
[08:50] <NSCAD_Nathan> Hi Lula
[08:50] <lula> how to open a game from cd?
[08:50] <jhutchins> lula: Windows game?
[08:50] <lula> nop
[08:50] <BluesKaj> stdin:  but is there a serverlist like mirc has with all large servers available ?
[08:51] <lula> pingus
[08:51] <stdin> BluesKaj: no, not built in
[08:51] <epimeth> soooo... anybody know how to get KNetworkManager to automatically connect to the wired network... cuz I have to do it manually whenever I log in :-(
[08:51] <jhutchins> lula: You mean you're running from CD, or you have the game on a CD and you want to run it?
[08:51] <lula> so how ...?
[08:51] <jhutchins> lula: Which?
[08:51] <lula> it's a gade added to kubuntu
[08:52] <lula> game, not gade ?~?
[08:52] <jhutchins> lula: If you've already installed it, it should be in the menu, or alt-f2 pingus.
[08:52] <lula> i tried add programs and even terminal but i'm really new with it so it is not my level, would u like to help me ???
[08:53] <jhutchins> lula: If you need to install it, use apt-get install pingus
[08:53] <jhutchins> !pl | lula
[08:53] <ubotu> lula: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:53] <lula> thx
[08:53] <jhutchins> Glad to help here though.
[08:53] <lula> yhm
[08:55] <lula> so how to start a game ?
[08:57] <lula> i cant even play a game 4 the age 2-7 like gcompris
[08:57] <lula> and what to say about open a game from cd
[08:57] <jhutchins> Dunno.  Installing it on my remote kubuntu box to see what the command is.
[08:57] <jhutchins> lula: The game on the CD is a .deb binary package, needs to be installed before you can play it.
[08:57] <jhutchins> lula: To install it, sudo apt-get install pingus.
[08:58] <jhutchins> lula: On mine it's installing about 10 packages.
[08:58] <jhutchins> 10MB, installs at about 25MB.
[08:59] <jhutchins> lula: Do you have it installed?
[09:00] <lula> wait
[09:00] <lula> i will do it like u say
[09:01] <jhutchins> !games | lula
[09:01] <ubotu> lula: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:03] <lula> unable to lock administration directory, is another process using it...?
[09:03] <Mena> Close any adept prossecors
[09:03] <masta> use ctrl esc lookin ur task manager
[09:03] <masta> see if your running more then 1 adept or synaptic
[09:03] <masta> also are you using it in root?
[09:04] <masta> u have to be root user to use adept or synaptic
[09:04] <jhutchins> masta: Hence the sudo part.
[09:04] <lula> and now it dont understand pingus
[09:04] <jhutchins> sudo apt-get install pingus
[09:04] <Mena> i am giving ansewer and dont have the right info of the question silly me :)
[09:04] <lula> ok
[09:05] <Mena> hhehehheh
[09:05] <lula> havnt found package pingus
[09:05] <jhutchins> !find pingus
[09:05] <ubotu> Found: pingus, pingus-data
[09:05] <lula> uhm
[09:05] <jhutchins> !pingus
[09:05] <ubotu> pingus: Free Lemmings(TM) clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-8.4 (edgy), package size 712 kB, installed size 1808 kB
[09:06] <jhutchins> lula: You probably need to enable universe (and maybe multiverse).
[09:06] <lula> there are viruses
[09:06] <lula> i dont want multi
[09:06] <jhutchins> lula: No, multi's not going to expose you to virii.
[09:07] <jhutchins> lula: The stuff on the official mirrors is pretty clean (nothing's perfect).
[09:07] <Mena> Dragon^masta, what is that
[09:07] <jhutchins> lula: It's just not directly supported by ubuntu, and has license and other restrictions.
[09:07] <lula> this way i uninstal last kubuntu 6.06
[09:07] <Dragon^masta> whats what?? the slap or my awnser to someones question
[09:08] <Mena_> the file you send me
[09:08] <Dragon^masta> I didnt send a file
[09:08] <Dragon^masta> I cannot send files my dsl wont allow it
[09:08] <Dragon^masta> Nice try Kid
[09:08] <Mena_> what try
[09:08] <lula> anyway how to instal suse when the first what they say is that i dont have enoth memory and i have to make partition of exchange like /dev/sdc2 which dosnt work ?
[09:09] <Dragon^masta> Mena: I cannot send files
[09:09] <jhutchins> lula: This is kubuntu support.  We do not recommend suse.
[09:09] <Mena_> Dragon^masta, okay no porb
[09:09] <jhutchins> swap partition.
[09:09] <lula> :)
[09:09] <jhutchins> lula: I've got to say, you're at least trying!
[09:09] <lula> dosnt work, i tried
[09:09] <lula> :P
[09:11] <jhutchins> Someone needs to stop playing with their irc macros.
[09:11] <jhutchins> (Need a factoid for "negative data".)
[09:11] <lula> i stoped and i wont play pingus as well..
[09:11] <jhutchins> lula: I can't tell what you need to know.
[09:12] <lula> yea, unoficial help for ubuntu ?
[09:12] <Mena_> jhutchins, some one is sendng files right ?
[09:12] <jhutchins> Mena: Not that I know of.
[09:13] <Mena> ok
[09:13] <jhutchins> lula: #ubuntu?
[09:13] <lula> f.,..offff
[09:14] <lula> edubuntu ?
[09:16] <jhutchins> Dragon^masta: Do you maybe have sounds set up with your silly "slap" macro?
[09:17] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  this copy and paste works to get amarok to work instaed of xmms as longer as the default player is changed in the streamtuner directory. : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-99259e1841e1e1262f4f71e0c72d5a51b3fb69e9
[09:17] <akrus> hm, how to write .mdf disk images in Linux? :x
[09:17] <akrus> write = burn*
[09:17] <jhutchins> akrus: mdf2iso
[09:18] <akrus> oh jhutchins thanks :)
[09:19] <emonkey-p> I've installed compiz on my feisty and now different things don't work anymore, how I can deactivate the compiz things?
[09:19] <graft> just undo whatever you did to install it
[09:20] <graft> although you don't have to remove the packages
[09:20] <BluesKaj> doesn't work on all strteams tho, jhutchins :(
[09:20] <emonkey-p> graft, can't use any X app, have to do it on a konsole, do you know which pakages? compiz I've already removed
[09:21] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yeah, it's a little bit picky about the URL, and it may not trigger some servers correctly.
[09:21] <jhutchins> If anybody can get the live feed off of http://ktbg.fm/ please tell me how.
[09:22] <oo> Buona sera a tutti
[09:22] <graft> emonkey-p: console, not konsole :P um, did you follow some how-to to install it?
[09:22] <Lynx-> Is there a command that would execute external programs from Konversation? (similar to /exec in many other irc clients)
[09:22] <jhutchins> oo: Bona!
[09:22] <Cugel> hutchins: http://153.91.42.26:8090/   -- link to the stream. Works fine for me.
[09:22] <jhutchins> !it | oo
[09:22] <ubotu> oo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:23] <oo> tks
[09:23] <jhutchins> oo: Not that we're not glad to see you, we just don't speak Italian.
[09:23] <BluesKaj> jhutchins: xmms sounds fine to me ...dunno what the prob is with using it :)
[09:23] <Dragon^masta> yeah Xmms is winamp :P
[09:24] <Dragon^masta> I jsut installed it, did you nistall teh codec's also
[09:24] <Dragon^masta> there codecs for mp3 mp4 ogg & others
[09:24] <jhutchins> Cugel: What player?
[09:24] <Cugel> I recommend the mediaconnectivity plugin for Firefox to all.
[09:24] <Cugel> hutchins: VLC.
[09:24] <graft> xmms is not winamp - it just can use winamp skins
[09:24] <Dragon^masta> scroll down the list to see what codec's needed
[09:24] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yeah, more minimal interface too, better as a companion app.
[09:24] <Yasim> somebody knows how to reinstall grub?
[09:25] <Dragon^masta> runs like winamp playlist & everything even settings like winamp
[09:25] <graft> Yasim: meaning what, how to install grub in your MBR?
[09:25] <Dragon^masta> trust me its the source of winamp :P
[09:25] <graft> Yasim: sudo grub-install /dev/hdwhatever
[09:25] <emonkey-p> graft, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359367&highlight=feisty+compiz
[09:25] <Dragon^masta> jhut are you using kde or gnome?/ oh lemme unignore ya LOL
[09:25] <Mena> Dragon^masta,maybe they meant that is has just the look of th eplaylist and other things
[09:26] <Dragon^masta> damn tab! jhutchins
[09:26] <cadkins> does anyone know a good way to install mod_rewrite if PHP is already installed?
[09:26] <Dragon^masta> ok jhutchins u can talk now :P
[09:26] <graft> emonkey-p: so... presumably you just disable desktop effects and it won't use compiz no more?
[09:27] <jhutchins> Cugel: Hey, works here too!
[09:27] <emonkey-p> graft, that's a gnome thing isn't it? I've KDE...
[09:27] <Cugel> Good.
[09:27] <josue> wooo cuantos kubunteros!
[09:27] <hellcattrav> why does kubuntu take so long to load
[09:27] <Dragon^masta> ur welcome :P
[09:27] <Cugel> hellcat: I don't know.
[09:27] <Dragon^masta> ur pc is slow
[09:27] <emonkey-p> I mean the thing where I can configure to use desctop effects
[09:27] <graft> Dragon^masta: trust me, it is NOT the source of winamp - xmms is free software, GPL'd. Winamp is definitely not
[09:28] <Dragon^masta> mine loads fast on a 750 mhz 720 ram pc :P
[09:28] <emonkey-p> and... I've no X app atm
[09:28] <Dragon^masta> did u ctrl alt backspace Emonkey?
[09:28] <Dragon^masta> instal re-load of X
[09:28] <graft> emonkey-p: um, that how-to was for gnome
[09:28] <Dragon^masta> insta*
[09:28] <graft> emonkey-p: what's the exact problem you're having now, anyway?
[09:29] <Mena> ll hehhe :)
[09:29] <emonkey-p> graft, unfortunately yes, I havn't found one for KDE
[09:29] <graft> emonkey-p: probably beryl is better with KDE anyway
[09:29] <emonkey-p> graft, no window decoration
[09:29] <graft> emonkey-p: when you start X, no window decoration?
[09:30] <emonkey-p> yes
[09:30] <emonkey-p> just the inside os the windows
[09:30] <Dragon^masta> emonkey what u running? kde or gnome?
[09:30] <emonkey-p> kde
[09:30] <graft> emonkey-p: um... you can try running kwin by hand... type kwin --replace in a shell
[09:30] <graft> it should pop up decorations
[09:30] <Mena> Bye all Thansk For helping today ByeBye :)|
[09:30] <Dragon^masta> ok hhmmm u can hit alt f6 login to terminal
[09:30] <emonkey-p> I'll try
[09:30] <Dragon^masta> then type in sudo kded
[09:31] <Dragon^masta> thats ur desktop
[09:31] <Dragon^masta> sounds like its not loading
[09:31] <just22> ok
[09:31] <graft> Dragon^masta: his desktop is loading fine, just no window decorations
[09:31] <Dragon^masta> brb working on another pc :P
[09:31] <emonkey-p> graft, hmm one other problem I can't write something in a window...
[09:31] <Dragon^masta> graft the decorati9ons is kde
[09:31] <graft> emonkey-p: try clicking on it
[09:31] <Dragon^masta> the window is X
[09:32] <emonkey-p> graft, wont help, focus don't change anything
[09:32] <graft> Dragon^masta: the decorations are the window manager, not 'kde'
[09:32] <graft> emonkey-p: um, you can do it from a tty, if you do export DISPLAY=:0
[09:32] <Erunno> Question to all: Are the binary video drivers noticebly faster for standard window operations (moving, resizing, etc) than the xorg drivers ?
[09:32] <hellcattrav> why does kubuntu take so long to load?
[09:32] <Dragon^masta> the manager is KDE
[09:32] <Dragon^masta> Kded
[09:32] <graft> Dragon^masta: no, the window manager is kwin, separate from kded
[09:33] <graft> Dragon^masta: and in his case, the window manager is probably compiz
[09:33] <Dragon^masta> hellcattrav:  ur pc sucks, mine on a 750 mhz proccessor 720 ram it runs fine
[09:33] <Dragon^masta> ell he needs to run terminal & sudo kwin & kded
[09:33] <emonkey-p> DISPLAY:=0 not a valid identifier
[09:34] <Dragon^masta> see if it runs or gives an error
[09:34] <graft> emonkey-p: DISPLAY=:0
[09:34] <Dragon^masta> emonkey you can export display=:0 in terminal also
[09:34] <graft> Dragon^masta: well, he certainly doesn't need to sudo, since kde runs as user, not as root
[09:34] <Dragon^masta> that might work
[09:34] <Dragon^masta> but if you udo it it bypasses the prob if its an access issue
[09:35] <Dragon^masta> I had this issue once with kubuntu 5x
[09:35] <graft> that makes no sense at all
[09:35] <emonkey-p> graft, hey great looks  it works.... I've window decorations again (for the moment)
[09:35] <thomax> haha
[09:35] <Dragon^masta> if he cannot open a file cus of access somthing worng he can login to root & run that file process or whatever
[09:35] <Dragon^masta> I had this issue before
[09:35] <emonkey-p> I'll try to uninstall the compiz things
[09:36] <graft> emonkey-p: i'm not sure what desktop-effects does... but you should see what happens when you first login, like if compiz is running
[09:36] <Dragon^masta> it didnt make sense when I did it, but I tried it & it worked
[09:36] <graft> emonkey-p: if so, i'd guess it sets compiz as your default window manager somewhere... which you have to revert back to kwin
[09:36] <Dragon^masta> NOTHING on a pc makes sense :P
[09:37] <lula> sf does
[09:37] <Dragon^masta> lol
[09:37] <Dragon^masta> bbs
[09:37] <emonkey-p> graft, thx I'll search for something like that
[09:37] <Cugel> I got my TV-OUT working perfectly -- some of the guides are useful after all. Works much better than Windows, too.
[09:38] <Dragon^masta> I find some of the strange & unusual ways to do somthing on any os works more then doing it usualy way :P
[09:39] <hellcattrav> dragon^masta: thanks your just so full of wisdom aren't you?
[09:39] <Dragon^masta> graft think binary :)
[09:39] <BluesKaj> Cugel:  what TV card do you have ?
[09:40] <Dragon^masta> yes I usualuy am, I am working at a pc shop n another poc, I couldnt get a modem to install normal I did it manual, moved files for drivers in system32 & restraed pc & instaleld fine LOL
[09:40] <Cugel> nVidia badass 512MB card (Geforce 7600 GS or something)
[09:40] <emonkey-p> looks like there is something really strange... no adept anymore too, can't install it because of some strange dependency. hmmm maybe I install the system again.
[09:40] <Dragon^masta> but thats typical winblows stupidity :^\
[09:40] <BluesKaj> not a tuner card then?
[09:40] <Dragon^masta> no emonkey
[09:40] <Dragon^masta> can u run terminal?
[09:40] <Cugel> No, no tuner.
[09:40] <graft> emonkey-p: you can usually sort through dependency problems by removing/installing conflicting packages until it's all straightened out
[09:41] <Dragon^masta> do apt-get -f install
[09:41] <graft> emonkey-p: although since you're running feisty it might be really broken (but i just dist-upgraded so it probably isn't)
[09:41] <Dragon^masta> oh fawk fiesty :(
[09:41] <Dragon^masta> no wonder
[09:41] <emonkey-p> It's dist-upgraded till Herd 2 too
[09:41] <Cugel> No Firefox 2.0.0.2 yet, apparently.
[09:41] <Dragon^masta> fiesty is a work in progress say the least
[09:42] <dwidmann> emonkey: why not herd 4? (current)
[09:42] <emonkey-p> dwidmann, upgraded every day since the Herd2 release ...
[09:42] <Dragon^masta> Herd?/ thats for the cows man :P
[09:42] <dwidmann> Ohhhhhhhh
[09:43] <cadkins> does anyone know anything about mod_rewrite????
[09:43] <dwidmann> Dragon^masta: apparently works for deer too?
[09:43] <graft> where's this come from, emonkey-p?
[09:43] <Dragon^masta> sspppptt think he callin u fat emonkey-p
[09:43] <emonkey-p> Dragon^masta, I know it's still in dev, it's just a test computer... so no prob if it's broken
[09:43] <Dragon^masta> :P
[09:44] <Dragon^masta> well re-install sucks, idd you try apt-get -f install?
[09:44] <Dragon^masta> did*
[09:44] <emonkey-p> graft, good question, maybe some problem with my locally apt-proxy in my local network
[09:44] <Dragon^masta> you can also apt-get install --force
[09:45] <Dragon^masta> or find the error package delete it then do a pt-cache purge
[09:45] <emonkey-p> Dragon^masta, yes it wont work, he wants a lib called libapt* and can't find it
[09:45] <emonkey-p> without this he don't wan't install adept ;)
[09:45] <Dragon^masta> I seen this one before,
[09:45] <Dragon^masta> lemme think how I fixed it
[09:45] <oo> Buona sera a tutti
[09:46] <Dragon^masta> AH apt-get -f install --forceremove
[09:46] <emonkey-p> !it
[09:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:46] <oo> Qualcuno mi sa dire quali sono i repository da inserire per scaricare kde???
[09:46] <Dragon^masta> I think :P
[09:46] <emonkey-p> (just for oo)
[09:46] <Yasim> somebody knows how to reinstall the grub?
[09:46] <emonkey-p> Dragon^masta, I'll try mom
[09:46] <oo> sorry
[09:46] <oo> hi
[09:47] <graft> Yasim: what do you mean reinstall?
[09:47] <Dragon^masta> try mom LOL too many jokes your killin me
[09:47] <Yasim> i just installed windows
[09:47] <oo> what is the repository for download and install kde???
[09:47] <Yasim> but I have Linux installed also
[09:47] <noxs> which is the default su password for kubuntu 6.10?
[09:47] <Yasim> and the computer goes to windows directly
[09:47] <graft> Yasim: ah... yeah, windows installs over the MBR
[09:47] <noxs> the normal way 'sudo su' don't work.....it asks for a password..
[09:47] <Yasim> I want that the "grub selection menu appears"
[09:47] <graft> Yasim: are you sure your linux partition is still around?
[09:47] <Dragon^masta> \try #microshaft or bill-gates-bastard_child :P
[09:48] <Yasim> yes... I'm on kubuntu now...
[09:48] <Dragon^masta> *#bill-gates-bastard_child :P
[09:48] <graft> Yasim: ah... off live-cd or something?
[09:48] <Dragon^masta> delete windows its the best for your pc
[09:48] <posingaspopular> Yasim you have a problem with GRUB
[09:48] <Yasim> no, a super grub boot CD
[09:48] <Dragon^masta> ooohhh
[09:48] <Yasim> that can acces to the menu list
[09:48] <Dragon^masta> yes grub lol
[09:49] <Dragon^masta> or lilo
[09:49] <graft> Yasim: ah... so your system is booted normally
[09:49] <Yasim> i've tried root(hd0,5) and setup (hd0,5)
[09:49] <Yasim> in the grub> prompt
[09:49] <BluesKaj> Yasim:  you should be able to reinstall the Grub bootloader with that cd
[09:49] <graft> Yasim: so just do sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[09:49] <graft> and it should put grub back in the MBR
[09:50] <graft> Yasim: root(etc) is only for that particular session - it won't change the MBR
[09:50] <Dragon^masta> tryign to install linux? what distro is it? redhat debain osx suse ?
[09:50] <Yasim> graft: thanks!
[09:50] <Yasim> :O , I see in the official page of ubuntu
[09:50] <Yasim> *I see thtat
[09:50] <Yasim> ***that
[09:50] <Dragon^masta> oh the evil gnome, you using new fiesty ubuntu Yasim
[09:51] <john> HAHA! victory!
[09:51] <john> i just needed the irqpoll option at boot of livecd to get it to detect my HDD's :D
[09:51] <Dragon^masta> lol
[09:51] <Dragon^masta> bbs
[09:51] <emonkey> Dragon^masta, won't help but I see other strange things like that: http://pastebin.co.uk/11088
[09:52] <john> now to resize the partition move some data over and then proceed to install :D
[09:52] <john> VICTORY!
[09:57] <john> weWT@!@@! gonna have ze kubuntu on ze desktop
[09:57] <amsmith42> Didn't I read that KOffice has a package for Kubuntu?
[09:59] <lula> i'm sad that i cant open any file
[10:00] <Cugel> So who needs some help and care?
[10:00] <posingaspopular> lula: what?
[10:00] <lula> i'm sad, i wont answer ur questions
[10:01] <posingaspopular> lula: well i cant help you if you don't tell me what's wrong
[10:02] <Yasim> I have a problem on booting,
[10:02] <Yasim> kubuntu checks all filesystem
[10:03] <Yasim> and the booting time is increased.
[10:05] <PhinnFort> what package contains the KDE headers?
[10:05] <PhinnFort> Yasim: how do you turn of your computer?
[10:05] <Yasim> by the correct way
[10:05] <Yasim> it does that every time
[10:06] <Yasim> I have to reset Linux 2 times only
[10:06] <Yasim> have had?
[10:06] <Yasim> sorry, english isn't my language
[10:07] <Cugel> Hmm -- yasim: try and close as many processes as you can find, then shut down. I'd be curious if that helps.
[10:07] <PhinnFort> it isn't mine either
[10:07] <PhinnFort> how can i hide a folder?
[10:07] <PhinnFort> isn't it supposed to be hidden if i place a .hidden file in it?
[10:08] <Fri13> PhinnFort: if you put . front of name, it is hidden...
[10:08] <lee_> could someone help me out?
[10:08] <Erunno> Will apt update the menu.lst in the feature if I make manual changes to it ?
[10:08] <Fri13> like to hide directory, rename it to .directory....
[10:08] <PhinnFort> Fri13: if the name can't be changed?
[10:08] <PhinnFort> Erunno: it should
[10:08] <PhinnFort> Erunno: when i switched from Gentoo, it adapted the whole shebang
[10:08] <Yasim> lee_ : help you out?
[10:09] <PhinnFort> it was handwritten before
[10:09] <jonnylinuxnerd> or in konqueror there's a way if u put the folder's name u want to hide in a text file called .hidden it will hide it without havin 2 change directorys name
[10:09] <amayera> hi
[10:09] <Fri13> PhinnFort: Then you need to set that .hidden file but my file dont work on edgy anymore... too sad, i liked that...
[10:09] <posingaspopular> lee_: asl
[10:09] <posingaspopular> !ask
[10:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:09] <Erunno> PhinnFort: Thanks, I'm coming from Gentoo too but I never had any bootsplash there ;-)
[10:09] <amayera> does anybody here know how to hide the Desktop- and / or the Mail-Folder from being seen in Konqueror?
[10:09] <PhinnFort> Fri13: doesn't work here neither now
[10:09] <b0rt> hey there
[10:09] <Fri13> Hi
[10:09] <b0rt> how you doin'
[10:09] <PhinnFort> Erunno: it should fix it up, if not, just remove it and dpkg-reconfigure grub
[10:09] <john> gah i gotta move 80gb worth of data from a sata raid0 to a single ide drive :(
[10:09] <jonnylinuxnerd> hello
[10:10] <Dragon^masta> DELETE winblows & run livecd install linux ubuntu
[10:10] <PhinnFort> Dragon^masta: that's the way to do it
[10:10] <Yasim> what's is winblows?
[10:10] <Dragon^masta> simple as that, your trying to run linux on a ntfs filesystem I bet
[10:10] <Erunno> PhinnFort: I will give it a try, I need to remove quiet from grub as I want to see the kernel output occasionaly.
[10:10] <Dragon^masta> windows
[10:10] <b0rt> Any1 knows how to see TV with usb TDT&analog TV capturer (Hauppage WinTV-HVR900)
[10:10] <lee_> posingaspopular: Im trying to get flash working on my amd64 system
[10:10] <lee_> as a plugin on my browser
[10:10] <Dragon^masta> or windoze aka microshaft aka bill gates bastard child
[10:10] <john> amayera: you can create .hidden file containing those folders
[10:10] <Dragon^masta> :P
[10:10] <PhinnFort> Erunno: why would you want to look at kernel puke?
[10:11] <jonnylinuxnerd> the only way i know of gettin flash workin on 64bit firefox is gnash
[10:11] <Dragon^masta> lol
[10:11] <PhinnFort> Dragon^masta: have you been in ##windows?
[10:11] <b0rt> lol windows applications just run better than in windows in ubuntu xD (crossover)
[10:11] <jonnylinuxnerd> but it doesn't always work well
[10:11] <lee_> well im using the deb file of swiftfox
[10:11] <amayera> john: what does this file have to include?
[10:11] <Dragon^masta> kernal puke, that me a nasty mess of 1's 0's & hash :P
[10:11] <posingaspopular> okay....
[10:11] <Dragon^masta> no I dont venture into microshaft stupidity
[10:11] <Erunno> PhinnFort: Out of convenience, I guess :)
[10:12] <posingaspopular> !flash
[10:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:12] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:12] <john> say you wanna hide the folder "amayera plans for world dominataion" create a .hidden file in the /home/amayera containg that folder danem
[10:12] <john> err name
[10:13] <john> Dragon^masta: why hate M$ so much?
[10:13] <Dragon^masta> I would join ##windows just to make fun of em & point out linux superiority :P
[10:13] <lee_> I need to update some file so I can download all the ia32libs in adept... it only shows one file
[10:13] <amayera> john:ok, thanks very muc.
[10:13] <lee_> I cant remember what the dude said the name of the update file was, can someone help?
[10:13] <john> amayera: not a problem
[10:14] <PhinnFort> Dragon^masta: i got banned from ##windows once;)
[10:14] <Dragon^masta> the software half assed the maker a theif a crook & a con & ppl stupid enough to follow his hype & Bs software that has restrictions, I got proof of this!
[10:14] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:14] <PhinnFort> i was really tired at that time, though
[10:15] <PhinnFort> where can i find kde headers?
[10:15] <Dragon^masta> well in winblows I search for stuff I get limits on any site
[10:15] <john> Dragon^masta: can't blame him for being a buisness man, and can't blame the fact that software is written by humans, and will never be perfect
[10:15] <Dragon^masta> on linux same site same search query I get more results
[10:15] <john> linux is far from perfect
[10:15] <lee_> can anyone point me in the direction of the update files I need for adept?
[10:15] <PhinnFort> can blame him for monopolistic business practices
[10:15] <PhinnFort> and FUD
[10:15] <john> PhinnFort: thats true
[10:15] <lee_> dude is madriva more user intuitave than kubuntu?
[10:15] <john> but who said buisness isn't ruthless :P
[10:16] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:16] <PhinnFort> but apple isn't (that) ruthless
[10:16] <PhinnFort> and they even produce (imho) better software
[10:16] <john> come on all the patents and law suits apple is throwing is outragious :)
[10:16] <Dragon^masta> not just buisness bill gates continues to build half assed software full of holes he uses to make more money & a billionare he needs to make a decent product
[10:16] <lee_> is mandriva easier to use for a newbie linux user as opposed to kubuntu?
[10:16] <PhinnFort> well, at least they put lawsuits where their mouth is
[10:16] <PhinnFort> compared to Ballmer
[10:17] <PhinnFort> lee_: imho, yeah
[10:17] <john> put simply without them we wouldn't have what we have now, competition and competition inspires innovation :D
[10:17] <posingaspopular> PhinnFort: I can't tell you what i think about ballmer, because i hate to keep it family friendly :)\
[10:17] <PhinnFort> but freespire is even better, since it includes legal multimedia codecs, afaik
[10:17] <jonnylinuxnerd> mandrivia mite be easier cos i fink it's got codecs preinstalled and other propeitary stuff
[10:17] <john> thus we produce linux :D
[10:17] <PhinnFort> posingaspopular: :P
[10:18] <Dragon^masta> if bill gates took time to come out with vista & fix the kernal & the BS he would have the best OS & even if he took a lil loss of using linux kernal & or device options he would still be a billionare & we have reason to keep buying his softare
[10:18] <PhinnFort> john: as i see it, them (microsoft), tries to remove competition
[10:18] <PhinnFort> the linux kernel in vista is a nice thought
[10:18] <Chousuke> The NT kernel is a pretty good design.
[10:18] <Chousuke> they just blew up the implementation
[10:18] <Chousuke> badly.
[10:18] <Dragon^masta> once linux comes out with the ultimate os with the gui like windoze but power security & supremicy of linux microsoft will lose it all
[10:18] <john> lol i loved the concept video of Longhorn, if i got a OS like that id be wowed :D
[10:18] <Dragon^masta> yes Nt kernal was perfect
[10:19] <lee_> all I want to do is make things easier on me at first until I get used to things.... I cant even figure out how to install programs from the desktop, nothing can be point and click... everything has to be ran through fucking terminal which is fine but I need to get things operating first
[10:19] <Dragon^masta> he screwed it up with his spyware & Bs tools
[10:19] <Chousuke> not perfect, but not bad either. ;P
[10:19] <lee_> would mandriva be a better option for me?
[10:19] <Chousuke> and um, Bill Gates doesn't develop windows.
[10:19] <Chousuke> so stop blaming only him :)
[10:19] <PhinnFort> lee_: try freespire
[10:19] <PhinnFort> Bill Gates is pulling out
[10:19] <Dragon^masta> yes microsoft comes with spyware, install a brand new os then run spybot search & destroy & pc-cillin spyware cleaner u find spyware
[10:19] <PhinnFort> or at least trying to
[10:19] <john> Chousuke: haha indeed
[10:19] <Dragon^masta> even before u even go online
[10:20] <john> Dragon^masta: the beuty of owning a computer :)
[10:20] <Dragon^masta> bill gates is creator, the creater is the one in control
[10:20] <john> he never wrote any damn code in his life
[10:20] <lee_> phinnfort: whats freespire all about?
[10:20] <Chousuke> john: meh
[10:20] <Cugel> john: bill wrote BASIC.
[10:20] <Dragon^masta> yes he did
[10:20] <Dragon^masta> he stole dos
[10:20] <Chousuke> john: you know that's not true. :)
[10:20] <Erunno> Since when does Windows install spyware ?
[10:20] <Dragon^masta> then he improved it, it was his design
[10:20] <PhinnFort> lee_: easy to use for people from Windows
[10:21] <Cugel> Stop feeding the troll.
[10:21] <john> Chousuke: he bought most of the code :P
[10:21] <Dragon^masta> since windows 3.1
[10:21] <john> by getting cheap child labor :P
[10:21] <PhinnFort> Cugel: he destroyed it;)
[10:21] <Chousuke> AFAIK Bill even has a history as a UNIX hacker.
[10:21] <PhinnFort> Chousuke: wtf?
[10:21] <PhinnFort> care to back that up?
[10:21] <Chousuke> PhinnFort: before microsoft, that is.
[10:21] <Dragon^masta> yes an Ex hacker
[10:21] <Erunno> Dragon^Masta: Any specific examples ?
[10:21] <Cugel> Bill has been very smart in the past. He's richer than most of us, I believe. Well, richer than I am in any case.
[10:21] <flake> I have a limited list of games in synaptic package manager, even not showing the armagedatron -  fresh install of 6.10 / envy, the opengl works ok
[10:21] <flake> am i missing a repo or two
[10:21] <PhinnFort> Chousuke: i know Microsoft used to deal Unix, but I don't think Billie Goat had anything to do with it
[10:21] <Dragon^masta> yes in windows 95 alexia toolbar is on your pc
[10:21] <Dragon^masta> also a few data miners
[10:22] <PhinnFort> Cugel: ruthless =! smart
[10:22] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:22] <Dragon^masta> any software cleaners pick it up
[10:22] <Dragon^masta> from alexia you get search & newnet spyware
[10:23] <Dragon^masta> they bring in trojan binso & other trojans
[10:23] <Erunno> Dragon^masta: Ah, the Alexia incident. Forget about that one.
[10:23] <john> I use both linux and windows, i care not for which is superior, as long as it does what i need it to do
[10:23] <Chousuke> PhinnFort: I wouldn't find it so hard to believe that Bill was a UNIX hacker.
[10:23] <Dragon^masta> tehm trojans bring in backweb, the mother of all bastard spyware
[10:23] <Cugel> john: you're right there of course.
[10:23] <Mena> If i formatted part for xp and then i wont to reninstall Xp
[10:23] <Dragon^masta> um Xp has alexia still in it
[10:23] <Chousuke> PhinnFort: after all, he was a student at some point.
[10:23] <jhutchins> !ops
[10:23] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[10:23] <Mena> and i have the boot menu contain xp
[10:24] <Dragon^masta> from windows 3.1 to now all have alexia or some sort of spyware without even ever being online
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: ?
[10:24] <Mena> but the removed one
[10:24] <Mena> if i install xp again
[10:24] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: Trolls.
[10:24] <Mena> can i log again to it
[10:24] <Dragon^masta> nah its still there
[10:24] <Cugel> I had to explain the move from Win XP to Kubuntu to my wife. I'm still working on that.
[10:24] <Dragon^masta> lol Cugel
[10:24] <gnomefreak> guys take the non kubuntu topics to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <mrbrdo> guys
[10:25] <Cugel> I have to agree that I'd sure like to use Word and Excel -- OpenOffice is so damn sluggish.
[10:25] <Dragon^masta> this is a comparison of linux & windows we on topic
[10:25] <mrbrdo> why does glx support less extensions in my 32bit chroot than it does on my "real" system (which is 64bit)?
[10:25] <PhinnFort> mrbrdo: shouldnt
[10:25] <Dragon^masta> as I was saying microsoft = spyware holes & mishaps, linux = power security & sipremicy
[10:25] <Mena> So any idea if it will work
[10:25] <mrbrdo> PhinnFort: ?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> Dragon^masta: its off topic move it to kubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <mrbrdo> PhinnFort: which package is glxinfo in?
[10:26] <Mena> i mean i will be able tp log in xp
[10:26] <Dragon^masta> >[16:25]  <Dragon^masta> as I was saying microsoft = spyware holes & mishaps, linux = power security & sipremicy
[10:26] <Cugel> Dudes, I was about to return to KDE topics.
[10:26] <PhinnFort> if i want kde headers for kde 3.5, should i get kdelibs5-dev or kdelibs4-dev
[10:26] <PhinnFort> mrbrdo: packages.ubuntu.comv
[10:26] <PhinnFort> *remove the v
[10:26] <john> who knew a simple line like irqpoll would cause my sata drives to be detected by the livecd after 2 weeks of fiddle faddle :D
[10:26] <Dragon^masta> but even linuxx has issues but they fix them ith speed & have much support
[10:26] <Erunno> Dragon^masta: Sounds bad, but my spyware progs never found it. I probably removed it back then when I made a customized windows cd via nlite.
[10:26] <Cugel> Mena: you too?
[10:26] <Mena> hey this toppic in linux my friend
[10:27] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:27] <graft> what's the package that auto-generates menu.lst?
[10:27] <PhinnFort> gnomefreak is pissed:P
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Mena: no its not windows has no place in here at all
[10:27] <PhinnFort> graft: probably gru
[10:27] <PhinnFort> b
[10:27] <Cugel> graft: automatix2 does it, too.
[10:27] <PhinnFort> dpkg-reconfigure grub
[10:27] <john> lol yes yes he is :P
[10:27] <graft> PhinnFort: doesn't seem to...
[10:27] <Dragon^masta> well in general if you want to eun winblows run winblows if you wish to run linux distro run it, mix & match is bad for your system & causes too much headach
[10:27] <PhinnFort> graft: then i have no idea...
[10:27] <gnomefreak> no im busy and shouldnt have to tell people what the topic is when they can type /topic
[10:28] <PhinnFort> graft: did you try to remove it first?
[10:28] <PhinnFort>  /move it
[10:28] <john> PWND!
[10:28] <Mena> gnomefreak, i mena what wil happend with kubuntu
[10:28] <Mena> gnomefreak,kow you are rest
[10:28] <Mena> now*
[10:28] <Mena> mean*
[10:28] <graft> PhinnFort: just installed it
[10:28] <Mena> okay bye all
[10:29] <PhinnFort> i mean remove the menu.lst
[10:29] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[10:29] <mrbrdo> In my 32bit chroot glxinfo says it does not support GL_EXT_framebuffer_object and GLX_SGIX_pbuffer which it does support outside of the chroot
[10:29] <PhinnFort> slash move it
[10:29] <graft> PhinnFort: there's no menu.lst at all right now
[10:29] <john> stupid resizing of partition is taking forever
[10:29] <OsamaBinAWESOME> PhinnFort: opps sorry
[10:29] <OsamaBinAWESOME> i did that for another chan
[10:29] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:30] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[10:30] <posingasopular> yea im back
[10:30] <john> lewl
[10:30] <john> Man i can't wait to get my Zalman 9700 in, so i can up desktop to 3.6ghz :D
[10:31] <PhinnFort> graft: "sudo update-grub"
[10:31] <PhinnFort> i think
[10:32] <john> hmph, can't seem to figure out how to get beryl and the ati card on this laptop to work :D
[10:32] <PhinnFort> john: what kind of chip?
[10:32] <PhinnFort> r300?
[10:32] <john> 200m
[10:32] <john> r480
[10:33] <john> lol
[10:33] <PhinnFort> too much dnd
[10:33] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:33] <john> hahaha
[10:33] <PhinnFort> or too little, lately
[10:33] <PhinnFort> our dm is away
[10:33] <graft> PhinnFort: ah, thanks for that...
[10:33] <PhinnFort> np
[10:33] <mrbrdo> In my 32bit chroot glxinfo says it does not support GL_EXT_framebuffer_object and GLX_SGIX_pbuffer which it does support outside of the chroot
[10:33] <graft> hope this goes okay...
[10:34] <Cugel> Hmm.
[10:34] <john> im guessing i will have to use fglrx and beryl  :(
[10:34] <lee_> so would everyone agree freespire would be the best choice for a windows convert?
[10:34] <ga_> ??
[10:34] <PhinnFort> john: what exactly is your problem?
[10:34] <lee_> I cant understand kubuntu
[10:34] <Cugel> lee: no. I think (k)ubuntu or suse are excellent.
[10:34] <lee_> I need something more user friendly?
[10:34] <PhinnFort> lee_: if you just want everything dumbed down and working, yeah
[10:34] <Cugel> Even for complete n00bs.
[10:34] <PhinnFort> i wouldn't suggest suse out of philosophical reasons
[10:35] <Cugel> But for beginners Gnome may be easier. Less configuring.
[10:35] <lee_> well then why can I not even install programs from desktop
[10:35] <john> PhinnFort: well i dunno where to begin lol, ive done Intel and nVidia cards but never a ATi card
[10:35] <PhinnFort> Cugel: KDE's defaults are very good
[10:35] <lee_> everything seems to be a pain in the ass
[10:35] <Cugel> lee: but you can!
[10:35] <ga_> jest tu jakis Polak
[10:35] <PhinnFort> john: do you have DRI
[10:35] <john> hazard_:  indeed :D "muahahahah"
[10:35] <PhinnFort> !pl
[10:35] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:35] <Cugel> lee: Yes it's a pain getting rid of everything you're used to on Windows. I do agree on that.
[10:35] <john> not on the ati driver
[10:36] <PhinnFort> !ati
[10:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <PhinnFort> nooo
[10:36] <lee_> plug this into terminal to do this, type this to do this... which is fine, if I had any idea what I was doing. But I just want to get my system up and running for daily use and learn the system on a day by day basis
[10:36] <john> ga_ tak ale tak dobrze nie umje pisac po polsku
[10:36] <PhinnFort> !atiopensourcefreeplz
[10:36] <lee_> I dont want to learn everything at once
[10:36] <PhinnFort> lee_: you shouldn't have to
[10:36] <john> lol@PhinnFort
[10:36] <PhinnFort> brb
[10:36] <Cugel> Well I do think Kubuntu should do the trick for you. Maybe install Automatix2 and use that to get all codecs etc. (I did).
[10:36] <lee_> well then coudl you provide some insight on how to get my system configured?
[10:36] <PhinnFort> watching rammstein music videos in the living room
[10:37] <Cugel> lee: it really depends on the kind of things you want. I mean, VPN was a real hassle for me, but basic stuff (video mp3 etc) is easy.
[10:37] <Cugel> And we're always here to help you.
[10:38] <ga_> a skad piszesz ?
[10:38] <Jonty> anyone have any experience with getting videos onto an ipod using linux?
[10:38] <lee_> I just want to get my web browser running, and be able to view all websites(with flash even), get an aim client that doesnt look like shit, a good media player program, and install americas army
[10:38] <posingasopular> gtkpod doesn't work? or is gtkpod strickly a gnome thing?
[10:38] <Cugel> lee: you want to run automatix2 -- maybe someone can point you to some help with that (on ubuntuforums.org probably)
[10:38] <ga_> john ja tu dzis pierwsze
[10:39] <john> lee_: install flashplayer-nonfree in adept, install swiftfox, kopete, amarok, wine + AA
[10:39] <lee_> keep in mind im running an amd64
[10:39] <lee_> will this method still work john?
[10:39] <john> ga_: aha, to idz do #ubuntu-pl, tam chyba czi lepjej pomogol
[10:40] <Cugel> lee: yes.
[10:40] <john> lee_: if you install swiftfox 32 bit
[10:40] <john> and then you can install the 32bit flash plugin
[10:40] <john> install 32 bit wine and youll be able to run AA
[10:40] <lee_> I already have the swiftfox deb files downloaded on my desktop
[10:40] <john> install 32 bit version of amarok and the win32codecs and your gonna be fine
[10:40] <Cugel> lee: I assure you installing programs is easier than on Windows. Really.
[10:41] <lee_> well then explain to me how to install americas army(linux version) that is sitting on my desktop as we speak
[10:41] <lee_> because im beyond lost
[10:41] <Cugel> what kind of file is it?
[10:41] <john> ga_: ja sam nie jestem az tak sprawny jeszcze, sam sie ucze
[10:41] <lee_> its a .run file
[10:41] <mrbrdo> Do i need something special in a 32bit chroot to get full rendering support? Must i install the graphic card drivers seperately?
[10:42] <john> lee_: alt + f2 then type konsole
[10:42] <john> then cd to the directory where the linux installer is
[10:42] <Cugel> It's on his desktop, so /home/lee/Desktop
[10:42] <john> type sudo sh "installer name" <- without quotes
[10:42] <ga_> john aha ok ale ja uzywam Kubuntu a nie Ubuntu cho to prawie to samo  a Ty ??
[10:42] <lee_> cd to the directory?
[10:43] <Cugel> Yes.
[10:43] <lee_> what the hell does that mean
[10:43] <Cugel> lee: cd /home
[10:43] <john> tak samo, podstawa jest taka sama, tylko glowny GUI yest iny, to wszystko
[10:43] <Cugel> Then cd /your login name
[10:43] <Cugel> Then cd Desktop
[10:43] <Cugel> Forget about that slash in front of your login name.
[10:44] <john> ga_: ja tylko lubje KDE bardzjej nisz Gnome
[10:44] <Cugel> Think of it as a DOS window if anything.
[10:44] <lee_> it says the directory isnt found
[10:44] <Cugel> Which one? You need to use your login name -- so cd /home/LOGINNAME/Desktop
[10:45] <lee_> no such file or directoy
[10:45] <lee_> directory*
[10:45] <Cugel> Okay.
[10:45] <john> lee_: say its me i would do: alt+f2, type konsole, hit enter, then type cd Desktop, hit enter, then type sudo sh Americas_Army_linux.bin, hit enter, then type root password
[10:45] <Cugel> Try cd /home   -- does that work?
[10:45] <lee_> yes
[10:46] <lee_> it leaves input for more text
[10:46] <Cugel> okay, now do 'cd yourloginname'  (I don't know your login name!)
[10:46] <ga_> john ja tylko uzywam KDE i niemoge sie doczekac na KDE4
[10:46] <mrbrdo> Do i need something special in a 32bit chroot to get full rendering support? Must i install the graphic card drivers seperately?
[10:46] <john> ga_: tak samo jak bys chcial zeby skonczyc imje kogos tutaj to tylko napisz kilka pierwszych liter i pot naczisnij TAB
[10:47] <mrbrdo> In my 32bit chroot glxinfo says it does not support GL_EXT_framebuffer_object and GLX_SGIX_pbuffer which it does support outside of the chroot
[10:47] <john> KDE4 bedzie super :D
[10:47] <lee_> im entering my login name and it says it cant find the directory
[10:47] <Cugel> lee: type 'ls' and show us what it says (you can leave out any personal files of course)
[10:47] <ga_> john: aha mam ok
[10:47] <Cugel> There should be a directory with your name on it.
[10:47] <lee_> ls just shows my user name
[10:47] <lee_> right
[10:47] <lee_> it shows that
[10:48] <|lostbyte|> Could some one help me trouble shoot why twin view wont work.. ?
[10:48] <Cugel> Type 'cd theextactusernamethatyousawlisted' :-)
[10:48] <Cugel> lostbyte: there are excellent guides on the ubuntuforums. It's all about xorg.conf.
[10:48] <john> ga_: taki letki skrut, taksom jak zuzywasz terminal mozesz naciskacz tab zeby skonczyc ime locacj albo foldera
[10:49] <lee_> no slash?
[10:49] <Cugel> Indeed, no slash.
[10:49] <Cugel> Just cd cugel (for me)
[10:49] <lee_> it just brings up a new konsole string
[10:49] <Cugel> Yes!
[10:49] <ga_> john: tak juz sprawdziem ,aktualizujesz na biezaco  system ?
[10:49] <lee_> like the first thing that is listed when you start console
[10:49] <Cugel> now type cd Desktop   -- and then you're at the file.
[10:49] <lee_> like it diddnt do anything
[10:49] <|lostbyte|> Cugel,  Alright, brb..
[10:50] <john> ga_: przepraszam ale jestem jusz 15 lat w ameryce i ja az tak duzo nie pisze po polsku haha, muwicz to moge ale pismo to slabe
[10:50] <Cugel> lee: we're trying to get you to the right directory on your computer. After that you will be able to install and run your game.
[10:50] <lee_> typing cd desktop from there gives me an error, telling me that the directory cant be found
[10:50] <lee_> I understand
[10:50] <Cugel> cd Desktop  --- with a capital D
[10:50] <Cugel> yes, a D.
[10:50] <lee_> oh
[10:50] <lee_> typo
[10:50] <jose> hello
[10:50] <john> lee_: case sensative :D
[10:50] <Cugel> case sensitivity annoys me all the time, too :-)
[10:50] <lee_> capital d worked, im now in that directory
[10:51] <Cugel> Okay, now do what john told you to do, let me see.
[10:51] <jose> how can install beryl here?
[10:51] <ga_> john: ok jak narazie odczytuje to co piszesz , chyba ze ty nie mozesz  mnie odczytac
[10:51] <lee_> how do I install the file from here?
[10:51] <Cugel> john:can you help?
[10:52] <Cugel> It's a .run file as I recall.
[10:52] <jose> yeah
[10:52] <lee_> yeah its a .run file
[10:52] <john> ga_: rozumie czytac to moge :P
[10:52] <jose> i  have a some problem
[10:53] <john> lee_: type sudo sh <whatever the name of the installer is> (you can find out by typeing ls in the dir once you get the name, just type the first few letters (case sensative) then just hit tab to auto complete)
[10:53] <jose> how can i put beryl in the start on kubuntu?
[10:53] <john> jose
[10:53] <john> if you have it installed
[10:53] <john> just do
[10:53] <jose> ye
[10:53] <jose> yeah
[10:53] <john> cp /usr/bin/beryl-manager /home/<username>/.kde/Autostart/
[10:53] <john> and voila beryl runs at every login
[10:54] <jose> ok
[10:54] <john> but replace <username> with your username
[10:54] <jose> thanks
[10:54] <lee_> syntax error
[10:54] <ga_> john: ok   od dawna masz Kubuntu
[10:54] <jose> ok
[10:54] <Cugel> I think there should be some easy entry on the system menu to configure autostart. Is that in Feisty?
[10:54] <lee_> near unexpected token 'newline'
[10:54] <jose> with < >?
[10:54] <lee_> yeah
[10:55] <john> ga_: moze tak prawie 3 mjesace, ale linux jurz to kilka lat
[10:55] <john> jose: no
[10:55] <john> jose: whatever your username is put it inplace of <username>
[10:55] <jose> ok
[10:55] <john> so like me it would be
[10:55] <john>  /home/john/.kde/Autostart
[10:55] <lee_> cugel, can you help?
[10:55] <jose> ok
[10:56] <john> lee_: the sudo sh failed?
[10:56] <lee_> im in desktop, im trying to install the .run file
[10:56] <john> try
[10:56] <jose> root@jose-desktop:~# cp /usr/bin/beryl-manager /home/jose/.kde/Autostart/
[10:56] <jose> root@jose-desktop:~#
[10:56] <john> sudo ./<filename>/
[10:56] <|lostbyte|> Cugel, :( .. didt work..
[10:56] <john> jose: perfect
[10:56] <|lostbyte|> Cugel, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584
[10:56] <ga_> john:  Kubuntu dopiero miesiac   a linux  od 3 lat   i sie gubie  ze sterami Nvidi  troche . :)
[10:57] <ga_> john:  na Kubuntu
[10:57] <john> ga_: po szukaj programu na ubuntu co sie nazywa "envy", za installuje drivery automatycznie
[10:57] <lee_> it just says "/ is a directory" wtf
[10:57] <john> tylko
[10:57] <john> lee_: sudo ./<filename>
[10:58] <john> lee_: to simplfy things type ls and give me the file name
[10:58] <Cugel> lostbyte: yep, that should do the trick.
[10:59] <Cugel> And yes, editing xorg.conf feels like defusing a nuke,
[10:59] <lee_> ls armyops250linux.run
[10:59] <john> ga_: ja bylem na SuSE, Gentoo, Slackware, LFS, Arch, i teraz na Kubuntu, i naj bardzej lubie Kubuntu
[10:59] <john> ok
[10:59] <john> type
[10:59] <john> or just copy my line and paste it
[10:59] <john> sudo ./armyops250linux.run
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> Cugel, lol.. i will show you my conf..
[11:00] <Cugel> john: we're not helping lee in making him believe Ubuntu is easier to use than Windows. It's difficult, this.
[11:00] <lee_> asks for password, then says ./armyops250linux.run: command not found
[11:00] <ga_> john: ja byem na Suse , Mandrivie , fedora  i teraz  na  Kubuntu  i  przypado mi do gustu
[11:00] <john> ok
[11:00] <john> do this
[11:00] <yamen> hi everybody
[11:01] <Cugel> hi yamen.
[11:01] <john> chmod +x armyops250linux.run
[11:01] <yamen> can anyone help me with wpa-psk wieless connection ?
[11:01] <john> ga_: jest dobre bo latwe ale ma sie wolnosc
[11:01] <john> lee_: then
[11:01] <john> sudo ./armyops250linux.run
[11:01] <john> or
[11:01] <john> sudo sh armyops250linux.run
[11:02] <avalon_> Can someone explain to me how I can get my USB Headset working with the Xine engine?
[11:02] <lee_> do both commands do the same thing for future reference?
[11:02] <yamen> ktos z polski ?
[11:02] <yamen> tak wogole ?
[11:02] <Cugel> Njet polski, dude.
[11:02] <Dumr> does any1 know a 100% working wiki for ati graphic driver install i tried 3 different wikis and it didnt work
[11:02] <john> dwuch jest
[11:02] <yamen> spoko, widze ze nie chca by pisac po polsku
[11:02] <john> ale ja tak slabo mowje
[11:02] <yamen> moglbys pomoc z polaczenie wifi ?
[11:02] <mrbrdo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2222534 any help is appreciated, thank you!
[11:03] <john> jaka karta
[11:03] <yamen> atheros
[11:03] <yamen> ide na priv z toba
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> Cugel, Here .. http://pastebin.com/890213
[11:03] <yamen> hmm... nie moge do ciebie napisac
[11:03] <lee_> hey john, its working.. the install is going, but for future reference does sh do the same thing?
[11:04] <john> yamen: to troche trudno za instaluj madwifi-ng jak mozesz, jak to za dziala to spoko jak nie to niewiem
[11:04] <john> lee_: sorta depends on the script
[11:04] <ga_> john: jest ok jesli chodzi o pakiety
[11:04] <john> if sh fails, then do ./
[11:04] <Cugel> lee: good luck and have fun!
[11:04] <lee_> what are symbolic links to a directory in the path?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> !pl
[11:04] <yamen> instalowalem madwifi bez ng to jakas inna wersja ?
[11:04] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:04] <mrbrdo> damn polish
[11:04] <yamen> ok dzieki, wchodze tam
[11:05] <john> sorry
[11:05] <yamen> hehe, chillout dude :)
[11:05] <Fogge> what are the shortcuts to switch between workspaces as default?
[11:05] <john> lee_: unfortunately there are very few apps that have GUI installers like in MS
[11:05] <john> it would be nice tho :P
[11:05] <lee_> ya damn right
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Fogge: ctrl + Tab
[11:06] <john> lee_: soon :P
[11:06] <jhutchins> john: Actually, I think that's a good thing.  If you don't have a GUI installer, it can't break as easily.
[11:06] <Cugel> Well yeah -- but still some GUI for at least some installers would be nice.
[11:06] <lee_> looks like I picked the wrong time to switch to linux
[11:07] <Cugel> lee: not at all, you already learnt a thing or twol.
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> brb..
[11:07] <lee_> yeah I suppose, its gonna be hard... but ive already wiped my system clean of windows I just wanna make sure im doing shit right
[11:07] <mrbrdo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2222534 any help is appreciated, thank you!
[11:08] <john> jhutchins: i don't care either way it just makes it easier if you can just click and install the file like a exe file, then again we have debs :P
[11:08] <lee_> now could someone help explain what an installer means by saying "do you want to install symbolic links to a directory in your path"?
[11:08] <lee_> does that mean desktop icons?
[11:08] <john> sorta
[11:08] <john> its like a shortcut :P
[11:09] <avalon_> Can someone explain to me how I can get my USB Headset working with the Xine engine?
[11:09] <Cugel> avalon: I can't really. Maybe try #ubuntu as well.
[11:09] <lee_> how do I specify for the program to place these symbolic links on my desktop? cause currenty it has them being saved to a directory labled usr/local/bin
[11:09] <john> avalon_: thats a good question.... but i can' help you ;(
[11:09] <jhutchins> john: Yeah, you can double-click a .deb and it'll offer to install.
[11:10] <avalon_> LOL, thanks anyways, I"m in ubuntu and xubuntu as well. I have all three :)
[11:10] <jhutchins> lee_: That's not what it's about.
[11:10] <john> lee_: no worries, it should install, a file in your K Menu
[11:10] <Cugel> lee: you need to copy or move the link. So basically it's cp link name /home/lee/Desktop (where lee is your user name)
[11:10] <jhutchins> lee_: putting symlinks in your path will make the program executable.
[11:10] <lee_> should I do that?
[11:10] <jhutchins> lee_: Otherwise you have to give the full path to the program.
[11:10] <jhutchins> lee_: Yes, let it do that.
[11:10] <velle> can anybody tell me how I set up Konversation to do auto identify?
[11:11] <jhutchins> velle: Set up your default identity with a password.
[11:11] <bonbonthejon> velle: in settings, go to identities
[11:12] <jhutchins> velle: F8
[11:12] <jhutchins> lee_: What are you installing?
[11:12] <lee_> americas army
[11:12] <lee_> now I need to figure out how to install swiftfox and get it working with all plugins, like flash and stuff
[11:13] <lee_> I have a amd64 processor
[11:13] <lee_> I started to try and figure it out last night, someone told me i need ia32-lib files from adept
[11:13] <gnomefreak> flash doesnt have a 64 build
[11:13] <lee_> I understand that, but there has to be a way to get flash working on a browser on my computer... right?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> lee_: that *might* work but i still think chroot is best way to go
[11:13] <ga_> john:  powiedz mi czy aktualizujesz system na bierzaco ??
[11:14] <lee_> chroot?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> !chroot | lee_
[11:14] <ubotu> lee_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:14] <Cugel> lostbyte: get rid of those Wacom entries in your .conf file if you don't have a wacom.
[11:14] <velle> Thank you all three
[11:15] <lee_> wow... ok this looks confusing, your gonna have to walk me through this one
[11:18] <lee_> ok hold up
[11:18] <lee_> the install for americas army installed no icon on my kmenu
[11:18] <john> should have ... :/
[11:18] <lee_> its not under games john
[11:19] <vamp898> !rar
[11:19] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:19] <lee_> it had some error messages at the end of the install, but it said it installed
[11:20] <mrbrdo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2222534 any help is appreciated, thank you!
[11:20] <jontec> if KPPP doesn't show my modem, does that mean that drivers aren't available?
[11:21] <lee_> john: plugging "armyops" into the run command prompt seems to start the program but it just dissapears... it doesnt boot up
[11:21] <john> type armyops in a terminal (konsole)
[11:21] <john> check for errors :P
[11:22] <|lostbyte|> Cugel, Any mistakes in that file?
[11:22] <lee_>  wait, correction... its on the kmenu just under the lost&found
[11:22] <john> ahh
[11:23] <john> well then just move it :P
[11:23] <lee_> it says error while loading shared libraries
[11:23] <lee_> whats up with that
[11:23] <lee_> libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:24] <john> lee_: open adept package manager
[11:24] <john> and search libstdc
[11:24] <lee_> do I need all the files listed?
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> brb
[11:24] <vamp898> why unrar-free is not preinstalled with Kubuntu?
[11:25] <john> no specifially look for libstdc++
[11:25] <swanfl> vamp898, you don't want unrar-free
[11:25] <slyfox> Help, huge problem which may lead me to insalling Vista. Hate to say it. I find that there is no way I can sync my Calendar and cotnacts to my Nokia phone. Kmobiletools does not work.
[11:25] <vamp898> swanfl: why? How to unrar files without unrar :D
[11:25] <john> lee_: you need to learn how to search for missing libs/files
[11:25] <swanfl> look for unrar 3.60
[11:25] <john> ill guide you on this one
[11:25] <swanfl> on the web
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> personally, i'd get a new phone or tell the manafacturer to fix it....
[11:26] <swanfl> unrar-free doesn;t handle most modern rar archives
[11:26] <vamp898> an newbie does not know that he have to install unrar
[11:26] <cpk1> slyfox: is it a cdma phone?
[11:26] <slyfox> cpk1: gms :-( Nokia Symbian phone N73
[11:26] <swanfl> I can dcc it to you if you like
[11:26] <john> lee_: make sure libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 and the -dev version of both is installed
[11:26] <slyfox> cpk1: GSM
[11:27] <cpk1> slyfox: =( if it was cdma there is this great app called bitpim
[11:27] <vamp898> dcc?
[11:27] <vamp898> !dcc
[11:27] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[11:28] <vamp898> !leo hello
[11:28] <ubotu> leo: English-German dictionary using dict.leo.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 220 kB
[11:28] <vamp898> hmm
[11:28] <jontec> can I use any of these drivers here for my modem (this is the correct page for my modem): http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/sm56_download.htm they only have Mandrake and SuSE and Red Hat listed
[11:28] <swanfl> vamp898, go to the following web site: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: use alien
[11:29] <swanfl> vamp898, the license says trial, but there is no nag ware
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !alien | jontec
[11:29] <jontec> alien?
[11:29] <ubotu> jontec: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:30] <vamp898> i just wanted unrar or unrar-free for FileRoller or Ark
[11:30] <lee_> after installation im still getting the same error in konsole john
[11:30] <jontec> Admiral_Chicago: is there any specific version that I should download (on the page)
[11:30] <lee_> john: ^^
[11:30] <john> lee_: did you install the dev files?
[11:30] <lee_> yeah
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: sec
[11:31] <vamp898> does any one hear Rammstein?
[11:31] <lee_> wait, adept downloads as well as installs, correct?
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: i'd go with RedHat 9.0
[11:31] <john> type ls /usr/libstd<press tab twice> and see if the file exists in that folder?
[11:32] <lee_> john^^
[11:32] <jontec> lee_: yes
[11:32] <john> lee_: yes
[11:32] <lee_> john: would you like the exact names of the files I downloaded?
[11:32] <vamp898> do an Upgrade with apt, the Firefox 2.0.0.2 is aviable since 60-120 minutes
[11:32] <cubdukat> Afternoon, all.
[11:32] <jontec> Admiral_Chicago: okay, I'm amd64, do I just use the athlon one?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: uhh. thats a good question, i'm not sure if they have 64 bit support...hmm
[11:33] <hyper_ch> anyone knows what the java virtual machine is?
[11:33] <john> lee_: just type the command i gave you andsee if libstdc++.so.5 exists
[11:33] <Cugel> cubdukat: it's 23:33 here....
[11:33] <vamp898> a virtual machine?
[11:33] <lee_> ok
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: type ifconfig
[11:33] <cubdukat> Ah. My bad.
[11:33] <vamp898> its 23:46 here :D
[11:33] <Cugel> Still, we're awake for you.
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you have. paste it here please
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> err not here.
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | jontec
[11:34] <ubotu> jontec: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:34] <cubdukat> At any rate, i have a slight problem I hope someone could help me with.
[11:34] <Cugel> Ask away, amigo.
[11:34] <john> lee_: and?
[11:35] <cubdukat> I reinstalled Kubuntu and did an update that downloaded a new linux-image, but when I boot into the new kernel, I no longer have wireless access.
[11:35] <cubdukat> I had this problem once before, but I forgot how I fixed it.
[11:35] <john> cubdukat: install the drivers again
[11:35] <john> which card btw?
[11:35] <jordo23> Is there an application I can use to convert .ogg video into .avi?
[11:35] <lee_> john, you diddnt give me the command to copy and paste?
[11:35] <jontec> Admiral_Chicago: I'm not in linux right now, what do you need to know?
[11:35] <vamp898> kk
[11:35] <john> no i didn't
[11:35] <vamp898> i go too sleep
[11:35] <Cugel> jordo: yes, there is (no I forget which).
[11:35] <john> type this in a console
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: your devices.
[11:35] <vamp898> dont let you bite of konqui
[11:36] <vamp898> !exit
[11:36] <cpk1> jordo23: ffmpeg
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <vamp898> :D
[11:36] <john> ls /usr/lib/libstdc<hit tab twice> it will give you a list of files see if libstdc++.so.5 is there
[11:36] <cubdukat> would that be by installing linux-restricted again?
[11:36] <jontec> Admiral_Chicago: eth0, wlan0, and local loopback maybe something like sit0 or something, no modem (I'm on linux, but it's in vmware, and that won't help. :D)
[11:37] <cubdukat> the card is an Atheros-based Dlink DWL-G630.
[11:37] <lee_> john: when I hit tab twice it just makes a beep
[11:37] <john> cubdukat: might have to reinstall madwifi-ng again
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: i'd have to do a bit of research, unfortunetly right now I have to study.
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: i'd ask on the forums
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> the kubuntu forums that is
[11:38] <jontec> Admiral_Chicago: okay, could I just try one of the others in the meanwhile? :D
[11:38] <john> so there is no output on the screen when you type ls /usr/lib/libst<hit tab>
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> jontec: in KPPP?
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you could try...not sure how that would work.
[11:39] <jontec> Admiral_Chicago: okay, thanks.
[11:39] <cubdukat> okay, I'm in synaptic right now. It says that linux-restricted for 386 2.6.15.11-1 is currently installed. It also lists a linux-restricted for P3 processors. Is that the one I should have installed?
[11:39] <lee_> john: ok I got it to output some information
[11:40] <john> anything pertaining to libstdc++
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> cubdukat: in a konsole, type 'uname -r'
[11:40] <lee_> john: no its not listed anywhere
[11:40] <lee_> stuff about bash_logout and some other stuff
[11:40] <john> then you don't have libstdc++5 installed lol
[11:40] <lee_> gtk_qt_engine
[11:40] <cubdukat> Okay, it gave me 2.6.15.23-386
[11:40] <lee_> adept says I have it installed?
[11:41] <john> or 6 for that matter
[11:41] <john> thats lies then cause thats where my files are at
[11:41] <john> unless your doing something wrong
[11:41] <cubdukat> That's the previous kernel. The newer one is 1.6.15.28, I think.
[11:41] <Admiral_Chicago> cubdukat: yes, that should be the correct kernel, give me a second
[11:41] <lee_> do I need the debug and documentation files as well then?
[11:41] <lee_> cause thats all I diddnt install?
[11:42] <john> no
[11:42] <john> you don't need that
[11:42] <lee_> what did I do wrong? im confused?
[11:42] <john> i dunno but those files should be there
[11:42] <john> i just did a fresh install on this laptop
[11:42] <john> and thats where they reside
[11:42] <lee_> could you tell me exactly what to type in console?
[11:42] <lee_> where exactly do I hit tab?
[11:44] <john> ls /usr/lib/libstd<PRESS TAB HERE RIGHT AFTER THE D>
[11:44] <lee_> within the "<>"
[11:44] <lee_> ?
[11:44] <Cugel> No, no <>:
[11:44] <john> no NO <>
[11:44] <john> just press tab after the d
[11:44] <john> thats all
[11:44] <john> don't tell me you typed the <PRESS TAB HERE> part :/
[11:44] <lee_> oh ok
[11:45] <lee_> no
[11:45] <lee_> I just pressed tab within the <> I typed
[11:45] <john> oh
[11:45] <john> :/  anything within <> means do that action not type <>
[11:46] <lee_> <
[11:46] <lee_> lee@Big-Lee:~$ ls /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.
[11:46] <lee_> ls: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.: No such file or directo
[11:47] <lee_> thats what it outputted
[11:47] <mitype2> hey everyone. I'm new to ubuntu and wanted to jump and and say hi
[11:47] <john> ok lets make this a bit simpler
[11:47] <john> type
[11:47] <Cugel> mitype: hi, join the club.
[11:47] <john> ls /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
[11:47] <john> copy and paste
[11:47] <mitype2> thnx happy to be here
[11:47] <lee_> it re-outputted the text in blue
[11:48] <john> k
[11:48] <john> means it exists
[11:48] <john> means armyops is looking for it in a diff location
[11:48] <lee_> how can I point it to look in the correct directory?
[11:48] <Cugel> If  you need anything, just ask.
[11:48] <john> where is it looking for it?
[11:48] <mitype2> ok I have one lol
[11:48] <lee_> Im not sure?
[11:48] <mitype2> why can't I upgrade firefox to 2.0? I'm stuck at 1.5.0.9
[11:49] <john> should tell you  in the error somewhere
[11:49] <lee_> ok, h/o
[11:49] <Cugel> Mitype: weird, I did upgrade to 2.o
[11:49] <john> if not type: ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /usr/local/lib/
[11:49] <john> and
[11:49] <john> if not type: ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /lib/
[11:50] <jordo23> What's the best way to convert .ogg to .avi/.mpeg?
[11:50] <mitype2> hmmm I've been trying all afternoon
[11:50] <cubdukat> Any luck yet, Admiral_Chicago?
[11:50] <jontec> crap with this motorola modem, I'm stuck here with vmware linux at home
[11:52] <Cugel> mitype: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360778   -- the answer's there.
[11:52] <john> any luck lee_
[11:52] <lee_> which should I do? look in the error or just type the stuff you pasted?
[11:52] <cubdukat> Looks like I might've lost him.
[11:52] <mitype2> ok thanks
[11:52] <lee_> john: ^^
[11:52] <john> just type the stuff i pasted
[11:52] <cubdukat> Anyone know how to get wireless access back after updating linux-image?
[11:53] <john> then try to run the game again
[11:54] <lee_> john: it says permission denied when I input the first ?
[11:54] <john> oops
[11:54] <lee_> go on to the second one you pasted?
[11:54] <john> sorry
[11:54] <john> add sudo infront of those commands
[11:54] <lee_> oh ok
[11:54] <lee_> that makes sense
[11:55] <Vegeta^> Why is it that the sound in YouTube (or similar) videos are always out of sync? How to fix this?
[11:55] <john> Vegeta^: refresh the page ?
[11:56] <Aattila> Anyone know how to install java applications on Motorola phone with moto4lin?
[11:56] <lee_> John: it ends up saying file exists... did it do what it needed to do?
[11:56] <john> im guessing so your not erroring out are you?
[11:56] <lee_> no
[11:56] <lee_> it said creating symbolic link, blah blah blah file exists
[11:57] <john> ok
[11:57] <john> run the game?
[11:57] <lee_> still the same error when I run the game
[11:57] <ataq_> anyone know anything about NVCLOCK?
[11:57] <Vegeta^> John: Refresh the page? That doesn't help, the sound slowly gets out of sync
[11:57] <lee_> "no such file or directory"
[11:58] <guiden> I don't see anything on the movies im trying to play, only sound
[11:58] <john> lee_: where is it looking for the file?
[11:59] <lee_> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:59] <ataq_> why play americas army when they dont have up to date clients anymore
[12:00] <HymnToLife> lee_, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[12:00] <cpk1> because its free?
[12:00] <john> and you did: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.5
[12:00] <ataq_> So is enemy-territory with true combat elite mod. which is up to date
[12:00] <ataq_> and has servers
[12:01] <lee_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[12:01] <lee_> John: correct^^?
[12:01] <HymnToLife> 2 not upgraded... do a dist-upgrade
[12:01] <john> HymnToLife: he has it installed
[12:01] <LeeJunFan> bah, I just installed liboobs but it wasn't anything like what I was hoping it was :)
[12:01] <john> its just armyops is looking for it somewhere else, which most likely is local/lib
[12:03] <john> lee_: well?
[12:04] <john> did it work or no?
[12:04] <lee_> same error message
[12:05] <mitype2> Thank you Cugel I really appreciate the help
[12:05] <john> after the command i gave?
[12:05] <lee_> john: correct
[12:05] <john> ok try
[12:06] <john> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /lib/libstdc++.so.5
[12:06] <lee_> lee@Big-Lee:~$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /lib/libstdc++.so.5
[12:06] <lee_> ln: creating symbolic link `/lib/libstdc++.so.5' to `/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5': File exists
[12:08] <lee_> john: ^^
[12:08] <john> lee_: hmmmm
[12:11] <john> lee_: type ldconfig -p |grep libstdc++.so.5
[12:11] <john> and give me the output
[12:12] <lee_> lee@Big-Lee:~$ ldconfig -p |grep libstdc++.so.5
[12:12] <lee_>         libstdc++.so.5 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
[12:12] <john> ok so its installed
[12:12] <john> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH~~~~~~~~~~~!!!! that makes sense! its 64bit version of the lib!
[12:13] <john> durrrrrr :P
[12:13] <lee_> ?
[12:13] <john> need the 32bit lib :)
[12:13] <lee_> where can I find that?
[12:13] <john> !ia32lib
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia32lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <john> !32lib
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32lib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi