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| quanchi | Hello | 08:05 |
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| pppoe_dude | hi quanchi | 08:05 |
| quanchi | Ok | 08:05 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: so, cd Desktop/ut2k41 | 08:06 |
| quanchi | I just started using Ubuntu today btw | 08:06 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:06 |
| quanchi | I did that | 08:06 |
| pppoe_dude | now, ls -ll *sh | 08:06 |
| quanchi | where the star goes do i put linux-installer? | 08:06 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: nope | 08:06 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:07 |
| pppoe_dude | you could, but it's like a wild card so it shouoldnt matter | 08:07 |
| quanchi | -rwxr-xr-x 1 quanchi quanchi 29627139 2004-03-04 03:52 linux-installer.sh | 08:07 |
| quanchi | I get that | 08:07 |
| pppoe_dude | hmm | 08:07 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: try sh linux-installer.sh | 08:08 |
| quanchi | its working! | 08:08 |
| pppoe_dude | cool | 08:08 |
| quanchi | now its strange | 08:09 |
| quanchi | Im seeing the EULA | 08:09 |
| quanchi | hmm | 08:09 |
| quanchi | ok i got past that.. | 08:09 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: you should probably read the README or INSTALL file | 08:09 |
| quanchi | im attemping to install to directory /usr/local/games/ut2004/ | 08:10 |
| quanchi | andI get | 08:10 |
| quanchi | No write permission to /usr/local/games | 08:10 |
| pppoe_dude | u need to be root to do that | 08:10 |
| pppoe_dude | or change the permissions of the target director | 08:10 |
| pppoe_dude | y | 08:10 |
| quanchi | How do I become root? | 08:10 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: i suggest you read the readme before you go further | 08:11 |
| nalioth | oooh, not a good idea | 08:11 |
| quanchi | Well | 08:11 |
| nalioth | quanchi: forget "root". this is Ubuntu | 08:11 |
| quanchi | What is root anyhow | 08:11 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo sh linux-installer.sh will do the trick, quanchi | 08:11 |
| nalioth | ah, if you don't know what 'root' is, that is excellent | 08:12 |
| pppoe_dude | nalioth: sorry i usually use the term 'root' as in 'sudo <something>' | 08:12 |
| pppoe_dude | not root literally | 08:12 |
| nalioth | it is unnessary in Ubuntu | 08:12 |
| quanchi | Hmm | 08:12 |
| quanchi | Another question | 08:12 |
| nalioth | pppoe_dude: please instruct to the tune of Ubuntu :) | 08:12 |
| quanchi | I allways see people saying "I need to learn sudo" | 08:12 |
| quanchi | How do you learn it | 08:12 |
| pppoe_dude | not much learning to do :) | 08:13 |
| pppoe_dude | whenever you need to do something requiring privileges, you use sudo | 08:13 |
| quanchi | This has been one of the most confusing days of my life | 08:13 |
| nalioth | it'll get better | 08:13 |
| quanchi | My highest goal is to enventually get Counter Stirke Source running under WINE | 08:14 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: in the case of the script you are trying to run, sudo will run it with full permissions so that the script can do whatever it wants | 08:14 |
| nalioth | unlike windows, once you learn this stuff, it doesn't change with each release | 08:14 |
| quanchi | but im installing Ut2k4 right now to see if my video card drivers installed properly | 08:14 |
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| quanchi | does Sudo stand for something | 08:14 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: i think "super user do" or somthing :) | 08:15 |
| pppoe_dude | or switch user do | 08:15 |
| nalioth | superuser do | 08:15 |
| pppoe_dude | coz sudo is actually very versatile... check out 'man sudo' | 08:15 |
| nalioth | 'switch user' is confusing on a single user system, n'est pas? | 08:15 |
| quanchi | Ok | 08:16 |
| pppoe_dude | nalioth: very true. i was used to having a root account for a long time | 08:16 |
| quanchi | this game is on a few discs | 08:16 |
| quanchi | its saying | 08:16 |
| pppoe_dude | nalioth: but after breezy i just got used to sudo and it makes more sense ;) | 08:16 |
| quanchi | Please mount the UT2k4 disc 2 | 08:16 |
| quanchi | i think ill start with inserting the disc.. | 08:17 |
| quanchi | Hmm | 08:17 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: good idea | 08:17 |
| quanchi | Where is it looking for disc 2 tough | 08:17 |
| quanchi | i put it in | 08:17 |
| quanchi | and hit yes | 08:17 |
| quanchi | and nothing happens | 08:18 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: might also wanna google 'ubuntu unreal tournament' see what you get | 08:18 |
| quanchi | I have | 08:18 |
| quanchi | Irc is allways my last resort lol | 08:18 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: did the CD mount? | 08:18 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: did you get a window with the CD contents? | 08:19 |
| quanchi | yes I did | 08:19 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: then i have no idea :) scripts like that are usually not very user friendly | 08:19 |
| quanchi | Bah humbug | 08:19 |
| quanchi | what ever | 08:19 |
| pppoe_dude | read the read me | 08:19 |
| quanchi | Are you any good with WINE? | 08:19 |
| pppoe_dude | i;ve never used it | 08:20 |
| quanchi | Damn | 08:20 |
| quanchi | Because when I was on windows | 08:20 |
| quanchi | Basicly all I did was play Counter Stirke and surf the web | 08:20 |
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| pppoe_dude | a lot of people in #ubuntu will have used it tho | 08:20 |
| pppoe_dude | and, again... google | 08:20 |
| nalioth | or #winehq | 08:20 |
| quanchi | I know, Google is like | 08:21 |
| quanchi | my best bud | 08:21 |
| quanchi | Oh yeah | 08:22 |
| quanchi | I went to download wine earlier | 08:22 |
| quanchi | and there is no direct download link | 08:22 |
| quanchi | its just confusing | 08:22 |
| quanchi | http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb | 08:22 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: wine is in repos | 08:22 |
| pppoe_dude | !wine | 08:22 |
| ubotu | wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information. | 08:22 |
| quanchi | what is repos? | 08:22 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: it is apt-gettable | 08:23 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: sudo apt-get install wine | 08:23 |
| pppoe_dude | ^ will install wine with no hassle | 08:23 |
| quanchi | Hmm | 08:23 |
| quanchi | so I should type wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - | 08:23 |
| quanchi | in the terminal | 08:23 |
| pppoe_dude | no | 08:23 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo apt-get install wine | 08:24 |
| pppoe_dude | this will install the version that is known to work well with ubuntu and would not cause problems | 08:24 |
| pppoe_dude | it will automatically download the packages and install them from the internet | 08:24 |
| quanchi | sudo apt-get install wine | 08:25 |
| quanchi | oops | 08:25 |
| quanchi | Reading package lists... Done | 08:25 |
| quanchi | Building dependency tree... Done | 08:25 |
| quanchi | Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 08:25 |
| quanchi | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 08:25 |
| quanchi | is only available from another source | 08:25 |
| quanchi | E: Package wine has no installation candidate | 08:25 |
| pppoe_dude | !restricted | 08:25 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 08:25 |
| pppoe_dude | oops | 08:25 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: you need to modify your sources | 08:25 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: which version of ubuntu are you using | 08:25 |
| quanchi | Hmm | 08:25 |
| quanchi | 6.10? | 08:25 |
| quanchi | How can I make sure | 08:25 |
| pppoe_dude | hmm | 08:25 |
| quanchi | that im using 6.10 | 08:26 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: go to System->administration->sources | 08:26 |
| quanchi | I dont see sources | 08:26 |
| pppoe_dude | software sources* i think | 08:26 |
| pppoe_dude | !info wine | 08:26 |
| ubotu | wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB | 08:26 |
| quanchi | software properties? | 08:27 |
| pppoe_dude | you have to check the universe repository | 08:27 |
| quanchi | wtf is that? | 08:27 |
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| pppoe_dude | quanchi: go to system>admin>software sources | 08:27 |
| quanchi | I only see software Properties | 08:28 |
| quanchi | is that the same thing | 08:28 |
| pppoe_dude | hmm | 08:28 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: never mind that. we can do it from the command line | 08:28 |
| quanchi | Roger that | 08:28 |
| pppoe_dude | (i am using feisty and the control panel is different) | 08:28 |
| quanchi | I see | 08:28 |
| quanchi | Wait | 08:29 |
| pppoe_dude | just type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:29 |
| quanchi | feisty and Gnome | 08:29 |
| quanchi | are they kinda the same thing? | 08:29 |
| quanchi | or am i horribly wrong | 08:29 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: feisty is ubuntu 7.04 | 08:29 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:29 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:29 |
| quanchi | ok typed it | 08:29 |
| pppoe_dude | uncomment the lines that end with universe | 08:30 |
| pppoe_dude | i.e. remove the '#' character from the beginning | 08:30 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:30 |
| pppoe_dude | done? | 08:30 |
| quanchi | No, I just started | 08:30 |
| pppoe_dude | then, control+O and control+X | 08:30 |
| quanchi | Why remove these | 08:30 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: these will provide you with more software sources | 08:31 |
| pppoe_dude | and will enable you to install wine easily | 08:31 |
| pppoe_dude | *control+O then enter | 08:31 |
| pppoe_dude | then control X\ | 08:31 |
| quanchi | Hmm | 08:31 |
| quanchi | O or 0 | 08:31 |
| quanchi | is that a zero? | 08:31 |
| pppoe_dude | O not 0 | 08:31 |
| pppoe_dude | not a zero | 08:32 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:32 |
| quanchi | OK | 08:32 |
| quanchi | I did ctrl+o | 08:32 |
| quanchi | and the crtl+x | 08:32 |
| pppoe_dude | then enter | 08:32 |
| pppoe_dude | no you gotta press enter after control o to save the file | 08:32 |
| quanchi | [Wrote 33 lines] | 08:32 |
| pppoe_dude | ok good.. control x now to exit | 08:32 |
| quanchi | I closed it allready | 08:33 |
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| pppoe_dude | ok | 08:33 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: sudo apt-get update | 08:33 |
| pppoe_dude | this will update the computer with the new software sources | 08:33 |
| pppoe_dude | i.e. allow you to install packages from the universe repository | 08:33 |
| quanchi | I allready updated Ubuntu | 08:33 |
| nalioth | pppoe_dude: <Sigh> | 08:33 |
| nalioth | pppoe_dude: always advise "universe multiverse" | 08:34 |
| quanchi | What do you mean | 08:34 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: apt-get update will update the sources not the computer, as to give you more software sources | 08:34 |
| quanchi | I see | 08:34 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: also, you might wanna do the same "uncommenting" for the multiverse repository | 08:34 |
| quanchi | what is multiverse | 08:35 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: multiverse provides additional packages you might need later on | 08:35 |
| quanchi | i typed what you said | 08:36 |
| quanchi | sudo apt-get update | 08:36 |
| pppoe_dude | ok, now apt-get install wine | 08:36 |
| quanchi | did a bunch of stuff | 08:36 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo apt-get install wine | 08:36 |
| pppoe_dude | and you should be set to go | 08:36 |
| quanchi | when I ran the first one | 08:36 |
| quanchi | It said this at the end | 08:37 |
| quanchi | PG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263 | 08:37 |
| quanchi | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 08:37 |
| pppoe_dude | hmmmm | 08:37 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: did you mess with the file before? | 08:37 |
| quanchi | I havent messed with anyfiles | 08:37 |
| quanchi | are you talking about the file we took the "#"s out of ? | 08:37 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: yes | 08:37 |
| quanchi | how do i get to that file agian/ | 08:38 |
| quanchi | ? | 08:38 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:38 |
| quanchi | Because I dont think that the "#"s are gone | 08:38 |
| quanchi | I can still see them | 08:38 |
| pppoe_dude | u need to comment out that budgetdedicated repo | 08:38 |
| pppoe_dude | !multiverse | 08:38 |
| ubotu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource | 08:38 |
| pppoe_dude | plz read the above links | 08:38 |
| nalioth | pppoe_dude: 'multiverse' needs to be written in, that word doesn't exist in a default sources.list | 08:39 |
| quanchi | Linux is so hard.... | 08:39 |
| quanchi | Why do you use linux and not windows? | 08:39 |
| pppoe_dude | nalioth: nalioth it is for me | 08:39 |
| pppoe_dude | nalioth: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse | 08:39 |
| quanchi | Why did you link me to that | 08:40 |
| pppoe_dude | but maybe feisty is different | 08:40 |
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| pppoe_dude | quanchi: so you can better understand how it all works | 08:40 |
| quanchi | You want me to download feisty multiverse? | 08:40 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: no that was directed at nalioth | 08:41 |
| quanchi | Oh ok | 08:41 |
| pppoe_dude | its a line in my feisty sources.list | 08:41 |
| pppoe_dude | anyway | 08:41 |
| quanchi | Ok lets get back to installing wine | 08:41 |
| quanchi | when I open up my sources.list | 08:42 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: i suggest you google 'source o matic', click the first link and make yourself a nice sources.list file | 08:42 |
| quanchi | should I not see the "#"s | 08:42 |
| quanchi | what exactly is a sources.list file | 08:42 |
| nalioth | pppoe_dude: ARGH. you should help to the lowest common denominator | 08:42 |
| pppoe_dude | i see | 08:42 |
| nalioth | not everyone runs $UBUNTU-CURRENT | 08:42 |
| pppoe_dude | nalioth: i couldn't remember if mltiverse was in the default sources.list file | 08:43 |
| pppoe_dude | afaik it was coz i never remember adding it manually | 08:43 |
| quanchi | what do I do with this source list I just got from ubuntu.nl/sourc-o-matic | 08:44 |
| nalioth | help to the level of the oldest current distro | 08:44 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: did you tick the multiverse and universe? | 08:44 |
| quanchi | What do you mean | 08:44 |
| pppoe_dude | and did you select the right ditribution? i.e. edgy in your case? | 08:44 |
| quanchi | Yes I did | 08:44 |
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| pppoe_dude | quanchi: there are options to add extra sources | 08:45 |
| quanchi | should I add them all? | 08:45 |
| nalioth | i'd not. | 08:45 |
| pppoe_dude | oh nm | 08:45 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: no | 08:45 |
| nalioth | you can always go back later | 08:45 |
| quanchi | Oh I see... | 08:45 |
| pppoe_dude | sorry they mustve changed that script since the last time i went there | 08:45 |
| quanchi | "Tick this box" | 08:45 |
| quanchi | wtf... tick | 08:46 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: just the default should be fine | 08:46 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:46 |
| quanchi | ok so what do I do with this | 08:46 |
| pppoe_dude | then copy and past the file into a new sources.list | 08:46 |
| pppoe_dude | and move the old one to sources.list.backup | 08:46 |
| quanchi | sources.list I just created | 08:46 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:46 |
| quanchi | where is my sources.list located? | 08:46 |
| pppoe_dude | basically, sudo mb /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup | 08:46 |
| pppoe_dude | then, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:47 |
| pppoe_dude | and paste the new file in it | 08:47 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:47 |
| pppoe_dude | then ctrl-o ctrl-x | 08:47 |
| pppoe_dude | *sudo mv | 08:47 |
| pppoe_dude | not mb | 08:47 |
| nalioth | quanchi: it's "sudo mv" not "sudo mb" | 08:47 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:47 |
| quanchi | yeah cause it was saying sudo: mb: command not found | 08:48 |
| pppoe_dude | after you finish, do a 'sudo apt-get update | 08:48 |
| pppoe_dude | ' | 08:48 |
| nalioth | quanchi: ummm read what i just wrote | 08:48 |
| quanchi | ok ok ok | 08:49 |
| quanchi | so im in my new sources .list | 08:49 |
| quanchi | now | 08:49 |
| pppoe_dude | paste and save it | 08:49 |
| quanchi | I paste what I got from the ubuntu site | 08:49 |
| quanchi | wierd | 08:50 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: i need to sleep soon, but basically after you save it, do sudo apt-get update | 08:50 |
| quanchi | when I paste it | 08:50 |
| quanchi | it doesnt paste the first like 9 lines | 08:50 |
| pppoe_dude | hmmm | 08:50 |
| quanchi | i think i got it thogh | 08:50 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: quit nano and just do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:50 |
| pppoe_dude | might be easier for you to use gedit | 08:51 |
| quanchi | ok i did it | 08:51 |
| quanchi | so I save this | 08:51 |
| quanchi | how | 08:51 |
| quanchi | ctrl o? | 08:51 |
| quanchi | then enter | 08:51 |
| quanchi | then crtl x to quit | 08:51 |
| quanchi | right | 08:51 |
| quanchi | ? | 08:51 |
| pppoe_dude | ya | 08:51 |
| quanchi | ok | 08:51 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo apt-get update | 08:52 |
| quanchi | [ Error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory | 08:52 |
| quanchi | when i hit ctrl o | 08:52 |
| quanchi | i get that | 08:52 |
| pppoe_dude | /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:53 |
| quanchi | Im still in my source.list | 08:53 |
| quanchi | atemping to save it | 08:53 |
| pppoe_dude | control o | 08:53 |
| pppoe_dude | then change the name to /etc instead of /ect | 08:53 |
| pppoe_dude | /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:53 |
| pppoe_dude | then enter | 08:53 |
| quanchi | thats the directory it is | 08:54 |
| quanchi | File Name to Write: /ect/apt/sources.list | 08:54 |
| quanchi | then I hit enter | 08:54 |
| pppoe_dude | you have a typo there | 08:54 |
| quanchi | and get | 08:54 |
| quanchi | [ Error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory ] | 08:54 |
| quanchi | realy | 08:54 |
| quanchi | what does it need to say | 08:54 |
| pppoe_dude | you should have /etc | 08:54 |
| pppoe_dude | not /ect | 08:54 |
| quanchi | save file under DIFFERANT NAME? | 08:55 |
| pppoe_dude | /etc/apt/sources.list not /ect/apt/sources.list | 08:55 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: ya it didnt write anything yet | 08:55 |
| pppoe_dude | just change the name | 08:55 |
| quanchi | OK I did it | 08:55 |
| quanchi | damn, wonder how that typo got in there | 08:55 |
| quanchi | anyways | 08:55 |
| quanchi | what now | 08:55 |
| quanchi | ive got a shiny new sources.list | 08:56 |
| pppoe_dude | sudo apt-get update | 08:56 |
| quanchi | ok, its updating | 08:56 |
| quanchi | What exactly am I updating here | 08:56 |
| nalioth | quanchi: if you added the words 'universe and multiverse' you are updating your capabilities to about 28,000 programs | 08:57 |
| pppoe_dude | just the available package list | 08:57 |
| nalioth | from around 3000 | 08:57 |
| quanchi | ok ok ok | 08:57 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: now, sudo apt-get install wine | 08:57 |
| quanchi | W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263 | 08:57 |
| quanchi | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 08:57 |
| pppoe_dude | and /me need to sleep :) | 08:57 |
| pppoe_dude | :S | 08:58 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: what? | 08:58 |
| pppoe_dude | lol | 08:58 |
| quanchi | i thnk its working now | 08:58 |
| quanchi | installing wine | 08:58 |
| quanchi | when this is done | 08:58 |
| quanchi | I should just be able to type | 08:58 |
| quanchi | wine | 08:58 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: apt-get update should not give any errors after this | 08:58 |
| pppoe_dude | ya | 08:59 |
| quanchi | well wine seems to be installing | 08:59 |
| pppoe_dude | well... | 08:59 |
| pppoe_dude | read man wine | 08:59 |
| quanchi | man wine? | 08:59 |
| pppoe_dude | type that in a command line (q to exit) to see how to use wine | 08:59 |
| nalioth | or join #winehq | 08:59 |
| quanchi | I see | 08:59 |
| quanchi | nalioth | 09:00 |
| quanchi | You know your way around wine? | 09:00 |
| pppoe_dude | quanchi: sorry my support is fairly sketchy but its 3am here and im uber tire | 09:00 |
| pppoe_dude | d | 09:00 |
| nalioth | i do not. i run incompatible hardware | 09:00 |
| quanchi | thats fine | 09:00 |
| quanchi | Its been helpful | 09:00 |
| quanchi | Incompatible hardware eh | 09:00 |
| quanchi | what kinda rig you have? | 09:00 |
| quanchi | pppoe-dude, you may sleep now, thanks for all the help | 09:01 |
| nalioth | dual G5 powermac | 09:01 |
| pppoe_dude | np quanchi | 09:01 |
| quanchi | whoa, linux on a mac | 09:01 |
| nalioth | yep | 09:01 |
| quanchi | Hmmm | 09:02 |
| quanchi | well I think i just got wine to work | 09:02 |
| quanchi | i | 09:02 |
| quanchi | im going back to #ubuntu | 09:02 |
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