[08:05] <quanchi> Hello
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> hi quanchi
[08:05] <quanchi> Ok
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: so, cd Desktop/ut2k41
[08:06] <quanchi> I just started using Ubuntu today btw
[08:06] <quanchi> ok
[08:06] <quanchi> I did that
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> now, ls -ll *sh
[08:06] <quanchi> where the star goes do i put linux-installer?
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: nope
[08:07] <quanchi> ok
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> you could, but it's like a wild card so it shouoldnt matter
[08:07] <quanchi> -rwxr-xr-x 1 quanchi quanchi 29627139 2004-03-04 03:52 linux-installer.sh
[08:07] <quanchi> I get that
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: try sh linux-installer.sh
[08:08] <quanchi> its working!
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> cool
[08:09] <quanchi> now its strange
[08:09] <quanchi> Im seeing the EULA
[08:09] <quanchi> hmm
[08:09] <quanchi> ok i got past that..
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: you should probably read the README or INSTALL file
[08:10] <quanchi> im attemping to install to directory /usr/local/games/ut2004/
[08:10] <quanchi> andI get
[08:10] <quanchi> No write permission to /usr/local/games
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> u need to be root to do that
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> or change the permissions of the target director
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> y
[08:10] <quanchi> How do I become root?
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: i suggest you read the readme before you go further
[08:11] <nalioth> oooh, not a good idea
[08:11] <quanchi> Well
[08:11] <nalioth> quanchi: forget "root".  this is Ubuntu
[08:11] <quanchi> What is root anyhow
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> sudo sh linux-installer.sh will do the trick, quanchi
[08:12] <nalioth> ah, if you don't know what 'root' is, that is excellent
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> nalioth: sorry i usually use the term 'root' as in 'sudo <something>'
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> not root literally
[08:12] <nalioth> it is unnessary in Ubuntu
[08:12] <quanchi> Hmm
[08:12] <quanchi> Another question
[08:12] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: please instruct to the tune of Ubuntu :)
[08:12] <quanchi> I allways see people saying "I need to learn sudo"
[08:12] <quanchi> How do you learn it
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> not much learning to do :)
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> whenever you need to do something requiring privileges, you use sudo
[08:13] <quanchi> This has been one of the most confusing days of my life
[08:13] <nalioth> it'll get better
[08:14] <quanchi> My highest goal is to enventually get Counter Stirke Source running under WINE
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: in the case of the script you are trying to run, sudo will run it with full permissions so that the script can do whatever it wants
[08:14] <nalioth> unlike windows, once you learn this stuff, it doesn't change with each release
[08:14] <quanchi> but im installing Ut2k4 right now to see if my video card drivers installed properly
[08:14] <quanchi> does Sudo stand for something
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: i think "super user do" or somthing :)
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> or switch user do
[08:15] <nalioth> superuser do
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> coz sudo is actually very versatile... check out 'man sudo'
[08:15] <nalioth> 'switch user' is confusing on a single user system, n'est pas?
[08:16] <quanchi> Ok
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> nalioth: very true. i was used to having a root account for a long time
[08:16] <quanchi> this game is on a few discs
[08:16] <quanchi> its saying
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> nalioth: but after breezy i just got used to sudo and it makes more sense ;)
[08:16] <quanchi> Please mount the UT2k4 disc 2
[08:17] <quanchi> i think ill start with inserting the disc..
[08:17] <quanchi> Hmm
[08:17] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: good idea
[08:17] <quanchi> Where is it looking for disc 2 tough
[08:17] <quanchi> i put it in
[08:17] <quanchi> and hit yes
[08:18] <quanchi> and nothing happens
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: might also wanna google 'ubuntu unreal tournament' see what you get
[08:18] <quanchi> I have
[08:18] <quanchi> Irc is allways my last resort lol
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: did the CD mount?
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: did you get a window with the CD contents?
[08:19] <quanchi> yes I did
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: then i have no idea :) scripts like that are usually not very user friendly
[08:19] <quanchi> Bah humbug
[08:19] <quanchi> what ever
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> read the read me
[08:19] <quanchi> Are you any good with WINE?
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> i;ve never used it
[08:20] <quanchi> Damn
[08:20] <quanchi> Because when I was on windows
[08:20] <quanchi> Basicly all I did was play Counter Stirke and surf the web
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> a lot of people in #ubuntu will have used it tho
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> and, again... google
[08:20] <nalioth> or #winehq
[08:21] <quanchi> I know, Google is like
[08:21] <quanchi> my best bud
[08:22] <quanchi> Oh yeah
[08:22] <quanchi> I went to download wine earlier
[08:22] <quanchi> and there is no direct download link
[08:22] <quanchi> its just confusing
[08:22] <quanchi> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: wine is in repos
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> !wine
[08:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:22] <quanchi> what is repos?
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: it is apt-gettable
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> ^ will install wine with no hassle
[08:23] <quanchi> Hmm
[08:23] <quanchi> so I should type wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:23] <quanchi> in the terminal
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> no
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> this will install the version that is known to work well with ubuntu and would not cause problems
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> it will automatically download the packages and install them from the internet
[08:25] <quanchi> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:25] <quanchi> oops
[08:25] <quanchi> Reading package lists... Done
[08:25] <quanchi> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:25] <quanchi> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:25] <quanchi> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:25] <quanchi> is only available from another source
[08:25] <quanchi> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> !restricted
[08:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> oops
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: you need to modify your sources
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: which version of ubuntu are you using
[08:25] <quanchi> Hmm
[08:25] <quanchi> 6.10?
[08:25] <quanchi> How can I make sure
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[08:26] <quanchi> that im using 6.10
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: go to System->administration->sources
[08:26] <quanchi> I dont see sources
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> software sources* i think
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> !info wine
[08:26] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[08:27] <quanchi> software properties?
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> you have to check the universe repository
[08:27] <quanchi> wtf is that?
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: go to system>admin>software sources
[08:28] <quanchi> I only see software Properties
[08:28] <quanchi> is that the same thing
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: never mind that. we can do it from the command line
[08:28] <quanchi> Roger that
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> (i am using feisty and the control panel is different)
[08:28] <quanchi> I see
[08:29] <quanchi> Wait
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> just type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <quanchi> feisty and Gnome
[08:29] <quanchi> are they kinda the same thing?
[08:29] <quanchi> or am i horribly wrong
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: feisty is ubuntu 7.04
[08:29] <quanchi> ok
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <quanchi> ok typed it
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> uncomment the lines that end with universe
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> i.e. remove the '#' character from the beginning
[08:30] <quanchi> ok
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> done?
[08:30] <quanchi> No, I just started
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> then, control+O and control+X
[08:30] <quanchi> Why remove these
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: these will provide you with more software sources
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> and will enable you to install wine easily
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> *control+O then enter
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> then control X\
[08:31] <quanchi> Hmm
[08:31] <quanchi> O or 0
[08:31] <quanchi> is that a zero?
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> O not 0
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> not a zero
[08:32] <quanchi> ok
[08:32] <quanchi> OK
[08:32] <quanchi> I did ctrl+o
[08:32] <quanchi> and the crtl+x
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> then enter
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> no you gotta press enter after control o to save the file
[08:32] <quanchi> [Wrote 33 lines] 
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> ok good.. control x now to exit
[08:33] <quanchi> I closed it allready
[08:33] <pppoe_dude> ok
[08:33] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: sudo apt-get update
[08:33] <pppoe_dude> this will update the computer with the new software sources
[08:33] <pppoe_dude> i.e. allow you to install packages from the universe repository
[08:33] <quanchi> I allready updated Ubuntu
[08:33] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: <Sigh>
[08:34] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: always advise "universe multiverse"
[08:34] <quanchi> What do you mean
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: apt-get update will update the sources not the computer, as to give you more software sources
[08:34] <quanchi> I see
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: also, you might wanna do the same "uncommenting" for the multiverse repository
[08:35] <quanchi> what is multiverse
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: multiverse provides additional packages you might need later on
[08:36] <quanchi> i typed what you said
[08:36] <quanchi> sudo apt-get update
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> ok, now apt-get install wine
[08:36] <quanchi> did a bunch of stuff
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> sudo apt-get install wine
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> and you should be set to go
[08:36] <quanchi> when I ran the first one
[08:37] <quanchi> It said this at the end
[08:37] <quanchi> PG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[08:37] <quanchi> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> hmmmm
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: did you mess with the file before?
[08:37] <quanchi> I havent messed with anyfiles
[08:37] <quanchi> are you talking about the file we took the "#"s out of ?
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: yes
[08:38] <quanchi> how do i get to that file agian/
[08:38] <quanchi> ?
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <quanchi> Because I dont think that the "#"s are gone
[08:38] <quanchi> I can still see them
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> u need to comment out that budgetdedicated repo
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> !multiverse
[08:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> plz read the above links
[08:39] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: 'multiverse' needs to be written in, that word doesn't exist in a default sources.list
[08:39] <quanchi> Linux is so hard....
[08:39] <quanchi> Why do you use linux and not windows?
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> nalioth: nalioth it is for me
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> nalioth: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
[08:40] <quanchi> Why did you link me to that
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> but maybe feisty is different
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: so you can better understand how it all works
[08:40] <quanchi> You want me to download feisty multiverse?
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: no that was directed at nalioth
[08:41] <quanchi> Oh ok
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> its a line in my feisty sources.list
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> anyway
[08:41] <quanchi> Ok lets get back to installing wine
[08:42] <quanchi> when I open up my sources.list
[08:42] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: i suggest you google 'source o matic', click the first link and make yourself a nice sources.list file
[08:42] <quanchi> should I not see the  "#"s
[08:42] <quanchi> what exactly is a sources.list file
[08:42] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: ARGH.  you should help to the lowest common denominator
[08:42] <pppoe_dude> i see
[08:42] <nalioth> not everyone runs $UBUNTU-CURRENT
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> nalioth: i couldn't remember if mltiverse was in the default sources.list file
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> afaik it was coz i never remember adding it manually
[08:44] <quanchi> what do I do with this source list I just got from ubuntu.nl/sourc-o-matic
[08:44] <nalioth> help to the level of the oldest current distro
[08:44] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: did you tick the multiverse and universe?
[08:44] <quanchi> What do you mean
[08:44] <pppoe_dude> and did you select the right ditribution? i.e. edgy in your case?
[08:44] <quanchi> Yes I did
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: there are options to add extra sources
[08:45] <quanchi> should I add them all?
[08:45] <nalioth> i'd not.
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> oh nm
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: no
[08:45] <nalioth> you can always go back later
[08:45] <quanchi> Oh I see...
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> sorry they mustve changed that script since the last time i went there
[08:45] <quanchi> "Tick this box"
[08:46] <quanchi> wtf... tick
[08:46] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: just the default should be fine
[08:46] <quanchi> ok
[08:46] <quanchi> ok so what do I do with this
[08:46] <pppoe_dude> then copy and past the file into a new sources.list
[08:46] <pppoe_dude> and move the old one to sources.list.backup
[08:46] <quanchi> sources.list I just created
[08:46] <quanchi> ok
[08:46] <quanchi> where is my sources.list located?
[08:46] <pppoe_dude> basically, sudo mb /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> then, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> and paste the new file in it
[08:47] <quanchi> ok
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> then ctrl-o ctrl-x
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> *sudo mv
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> not mb
[08:47] <nalioth> quanchi: it's "sudo mv" not "sudo mb"
[08:47] <quanchi> ok
[08:48] <quanchi> yeah cause it was saying sudo: mb: command not found
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> after you finish, do a 'sudo apt-get update
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> '
[08:48] <nalioth> quanchi: ummm read what i just wrote
[08:49] <quanchi> ok ok ok
[08:49] <quanchi> so im in my new sources .list
[08:49] <quanchi> now
[08:49] <pppoe_dude> paste and save it
[08:49] <quanchi> I paste what I got from the ubuntu site
[08:50] <quanchi> wierd
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: i need to sleep soon, but basically after you save it, do sudo apt-get update
[08:50] <quanchi> when I paste it
[08:50] <quanchi> it doesnt paste the first like 9 lines
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> hmmm
[08:50] <quanchi> i think i got it thogh
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: quit nano and just do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> might be easier for you to use gedit
[08:51] <quanchi> ok i did it
[08:51] <quanchi> so I save this
[08:51] <quanchi> how
[08:51] <quanchi> ctrl o?
[08:51] <quanchi> then enter
[08:51] <quanchi> then crtl x to quit
[08:51] <quanchi> right
[08:51] <quanchi> ?
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> ya
[08:51] <quanchi> ok
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> sudo apt-get update
[08:52] <quanchi> [ Error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory
[08:52] <quanchi> when i hit ctrl o
[08:52] <quanchi> i get that
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <quanchi> Im still in my source.list
[08:53] <quanchi> atemping to save it
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> control o
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> then change the name to /etc instead of /ect
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> then enter
[08:54] <quanchi> thats the directory it is
[08:54] <quanchi> File Name to Write: /ect/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <quanchi> then I hit enter
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> you have a typo there
[08:54] <quanchi> and get
[08:54] <quanchi>  [ Error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory ] 
[08:54] <quanchi> realy
[08:54] <quanchi> what does it need to say
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> you should have /etc
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> not /ect
[08:55] <quanchi> save file under DIFFERANT NAME?
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> /etc/apt/sources.list not /ect/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: ya it didnt write anything yet
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> just change the name
[08:55] <quanchi> OK I did it
[08:55] <quanchi> damn, wonder how that typo got in there
[08:55] <quanchi> anyways
[08:55] <quanchi> what now
[08:56] <quanchi> ive got a shiny new sources.list
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> sudo apt-get update
[08:56] <quanchi> ok, its updating
[08:56] <quanchi> What exactly am I updating here
[08:57] <nalioth> quanchi: if you added the words 'universe and multiverse' you are updating your capabilities to about 28,000 programs
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> just the available package list
[08:57] <nalioth> from around 3000
[08:57] <quanchi> ok ok ok
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: now, sudo apt-get install wine
[08:57] <quanchi> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[08:57] <quanchi> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> and /me need to sleep :)
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> :S
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: what?
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> lol
[08:58] <quanchi> i thnk its working now
[08:58] <quanchi> installing wine
[08:58] <quanchi> when this is done
[08:58] <quanchi> I should just be able to type
[08:58] <quanchi> wine
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: apt-get update should not give any errors after this
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> ya
[08:59] <quanchi> well wine seems to be installing
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> well...
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> read man wine
[08:59] <quanchi> man wine?
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> type that in a command line (q to exit) to see how to use wine
[08:59] <nalioth> or join #winehq
[08:59] <quanchi> I see
[09:00] <quanchi> nalioth
[09:00] <quanchi> You know your way around wine?
[09:00] <pppoe_dude> quanchi: sorry my support is fairly sketchy but its 3am here and im uber tire
[09:00] <pppoe_dude> d
[09:00] <nalioth> i do not.  i run incompatible hardware
[09:00] <quanchi> thats fine
[09:00] <quanchi> Its been helpful
[09:00] <quanchi> Incompatible hardware eh
[09:00] <quanchi> what kinda rig you have?
[09:01] <quanchi> pppoe-dude, you may sleep now, thanks for all the help
[09:01] <nalioth> dual G5 powermac
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> np quanchi
[09:01] <quanchi> whoa, linux on a mac
[09:01] <nalioth> yep
[09:02] <quanchi> Hmmm
[09:02] <quanchi> well I think i just got wine to work
[09:02] <quanchi> i
[09:02] <quanchi> im going back to #ubuntu
[09:58] <luzhin_> #chatzilla
[12:34] <jatem> buen dia(good morning)
[09:05] <luzhin> totem wont play streaming video, media file was not recognised
[09:19] <luzhin> not allowed to move file to user/local?  I installed it! fix permissions