=== ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.77] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Largka [n=cyril@cable-195-162-211-223.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.62.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Largka [n=cyril@cable-195-162-211-223.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11214rn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline_ [n=macconli@190.37.62.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline_ [n=macconli@190.37.62.233] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr3741@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr3908@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === quanchi [n=quanchi@63-226-228-79.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:05] Hello [08:05] hi quanchi [08:05] Ok [08:06] quanchi: so, cd Desktop/ut2k41 [08:06] I just started using Ubuntu today btw [08:06] ok [08:06] I did that [08:06] now, ls -ll *sh [08:06] where the star goes do i put linux-installer? [08:06] quanchi: nope [08:07] ok [08:07] you could, but it's like a wild card so it shouoldnt matter [08:07] -rwxr-xr-x 1 quanchi quanchi 29627139 2004-03-04 03:52 linux-installer.sh [08:07] I get that [08:07] hmm [08:08] quanchi: try sh linux-installer.sh [08:08] its working! [08:08] cool [08:09] now its strange [08:09] Im seeing the EULA [08:09] hmm [08:09] ok i got past that.. [08:09] quanchi: you should probably read the README or INSTALL file [08:10] im attemping to install to directory /usr/local/games/ut2004/ [08:10] andI get [08:10] No write permission to /usr/local/games [08:10] u need to be root to do that [08:10] or change the permissions of the target director [08:10] y [08:10] How do I become root? [08:11] quanchi: i suggest you read the readme before you go further [08:11] oooh, not a good idea [08:11] Well [08:11] quanchi: forget "root". this is Ubuntu [08:11] What is root anyhow [08:11] sudo sh linux-installer.sh will do the trick, quanchi [08:12] ah, if you don't know what 'root' is, that is excellent [08:12] nalioth: sorry i usually use the term 'root' as in 'sudo ' [08:12] not root literally [08:12] it is unnessary in Ubuntu [08:12] Hmm [08:12] Another question [08:12] pppoe_dude: please instruct to the tune of Ubuntu :) [08:12] I allways see people saying "I need to learn sudo" [08:12] How do you learn it [08:13] not much learning to do :) [08:13] whenever you need to do something requiring privileges, you use sudo [08:13] This has been one of the most confusing days of my life [08:13] it'll get better [08:14] My highest goal is to enventually get Counter Stirke Source running under WINE [08:14] quanchi: in the case of the script you are trying to run, sudo will run it with full permissions so that the script can do whatever it wants [08:14] unlike windows, once you learn this stuff, it doesn't change with each release [08:14] but im installing Ut2k4 right now to see if my video card drivers installed properly === AMD- [n=thami@82.13.245.224] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:14] does Sudo stand for something [08:15] quanchi: i think "super user do" or somthing :) [08:15] or switch user do [08:15] superuser do [08:15] coz sudo is actually very versatile... check out 'man sudo' [08:15] 'switch user' is confusing on a single user system, n'est pas? [08:16] Ok [08:16] nalioth: very true. i was used to having a root account for a long time [08:16] this game is on a few discs [08:16] its saying [08:16] nalioth: but after breezy i just got used to sudo and it makes more sense ;) [08:16] Please mount the UT2k4 disc 2 [08:17] i think ill start with inserting the disc.. [08:17] Hmm [08:17] quanchi: good idea [08:17] Where is it looking for disc 2 tough [08:17] i put it in [08:17] and hit yes [08:18] and nothing happens [08:18] quanchi: might also wanna google 'ubuntu unreal tournament' see what you get [08:18] I have [08:18] Irc is allways my last resort lol [08:18] quanchi: did the CD mount? [08:19] quanchi: did you get a window with the CD contents? [08:19] yes I did [08:19] quanchi: then i have no idea :) scripts like that are usually not very user friendly [08:19] Bah humbug [08:19] what ever [08:19] read the read me [08:19] Are you any good with WINE? [08:20] i;ve never used it [08:20] Damn [08:20] Because when I was on windows [08:20] Basicly all I did was play Counter Stirke and surf the web === EDVINAS_ [i=usr4438@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:20] a lot of people in #ubuntu will have used it tho [08:20] and, again... google [08:20] or #winehq [08:21] I know, Google is like [08:21] my best bud [08:22] Oh yeah [08:22] I went to download wine earlier [08:22] and there is no direct download link [08:22] its just confusing [08:22] http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb [08:22] quanchi: wine is in repos [08:22] !wine [08:22] wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information. [08:22] what is repos? [08:23] quanchi: it is apt-gettable [08:23] quanchi: sudo apt-get install wine [08:23] ^ will install wine with no hassle [08:23] Hmm [08:23] so I should type wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - [08:23] in the terminal [08:23] no [08:24] sudo apt-get install wine [08:24] this will install the version that is known to work well with ubuntu and would not cause problems [08:24] it will automatically download the packages and install them from the internet [08:25] sudo apt-get install wine [08:25] oops [08:25] Reading package lists... Done [08:25] Building dependency tree... Done [08:25] Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. [08:25] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [08:25] is only available from another source [08:25] E: Package wine has no installation candidate [08:25] !restricted [08:25] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [08:25] oops [08:25] quanchi: you need to modify your sources [08:25] quanchi: which version of ubuntu are you using [08:25] Hmm [08:25] 6.10? [08:25] How can I make sure [08:25] hmm [08:26] that im using 6.10 [08:26] quanchi: go to System->administration->sources [08:26] I dont see sources [08:26] software sources* i think [08:26] !info wine [08:26] wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB [08:27] software properties? [08:27] you have to check the universe repository [08:27] wtf is that? === AMD- [n=thami@82.13.245.224] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [08:27] quanchi: go to system>admin>software sources [08:28] I only see software Properties [08:28] is that the same thing [08:28] hmm [08:28] quanchi: never mind that. we can do it from the command line [08:28] Roger that [08:28] (i am using feisty and the control panel is different) [08:28] I see [08:29] Wait [08:29] just type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [08:29] feisty and Gnome [08:29] are they kinda the same thing? [08:29] or am i horribly wrong [08:29] quanchi: feisty is ubuntu 7.04 [08:29] ok [08:29] sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [08:29] ok typed it [08:30] uncomment the lines that end with universe [08:30] i.e. remove the '#' character from the beginning [08:30] ok [08:30] done? [08:30] No, I just started [08:30] then, control+O and control+X [08:30] Why remove these [08:31] quanchi: these will provide you with more software sources [08:31] and will enable you to install wine easily [08:31] *control+O then enter [08:31] then control X\ [08:31] Hmm [08:31] O or 0 [08:31] is that a zero? [08:31] O not 0 [08:32] not a zero [08:32] ok [08:32] OK [08:32] I did ctrl+o [08:32] and the crtl+x [08:32] then enter [08:32] no you gotta press enter after control o to save the file [08:32] [Wrote 33 lines] [08:32] ok good.. control x now to exit [08:33] I closed it allready === luzhin [n=luzhin@d205-250-2-245.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:33] ok [08:33] quanchi: sudo apt-get update [08:33] this will update the computer with the new software sources [08:33] i.e. allow you to install packages from the universe repository [08:33] I allready updated Ubuntu [08:33] pppoe_dude: [08:34] pppoe_dude: always advise "universe multiverse" [08:34] What do you mean [08:34] quanchi: apt-get update will update the sources not the computer, as to give you more software sources [08:34] I see [08:34] quanchi: also, you might wanna do the same "uncommenting" for the multiverse repository [08:35] what is multiverse [08:35] quanchi: multiverse provides additional packages you might need later on [08:36] i typed what you said [08:36] sudo apt-get update [08:36] ok, now apt-get install wine [08:36] did a bunch of stuff [08:36] sudo apt-get install wine [08:36] and you should be set to go [08:36] when I ran the first one [08:37] It said this at the end [08:37] PG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263 [08:37] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [08:37] hmmmm [08:37] quanchi: did you mess with the file before? [08:37] I havent messed with anyfiles [08:37] are you talking about the file we took the "#"s out of ? [08:37] quanchi: yes [08:38] how do i get to that file agian/ [08:38] ? [08:38] sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [08:38] Because I dont think that the "#"s are gone [08:38] I can still see them [08:38] u need to comment out that budgetdedicated repo [08:38] !multiverse [08:38] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [08:38] plz read the above links [08:39] pppoe_dude: 'multiverse' needs to be written in, that word doesn't exist in a default sources.list [08:39] Linux is so hard.... [08:39] Why do you use linux and not windows? [08:39] nalioth: nalioth it is for me [08:39] nalioth: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse [08:40] Why did you link me to that [08:40] but maybe feisty is different === pppoe_dude has a terrible memory for everything [08:40] quanchi: so you can better understand how it all works [08:40] You want me to download feisty multiverse? [08:41] quanchi: no that was directed at nalioth [08:41] Oh ok [08:41] its a line in my feisty sources.list [08:41] anyway [08:41] Ok lets get back to installing wine [08:42] when I open up my sources.list [08:42] quanchi: i suggest you google 'source o matic', click the first link and make yourself a nice sources.list file [08:42] should I not see the "#"s [08:42] what exactly is a sources.list file [08:42] pppoe_dude: ARGH. you should help to the lowest common denominator [08:42] i see [08:42] not everyone runs $UBUNTU-CURRENT [08:43] nalioth: i couldn't remember if mltiverse was in the default sources.list file [08:43] afaik it was coz i never remember adding it manually [08:44] what do I do with this source list I just got from ubuntu.nl/sourc-o-matic [08:44] help to the level of the oldest current distro [08:44] quanchi: did you tick the multiverse and universe? [08:44] What do you mean [08:44] and did you select the right ditribution? i.e. edgy in your case? [08:44] Yes I did === luzhin [n=David@d205-250-2-245.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:45] quanchi: there are options to add extra sources [08:45] should I add them all? [08:45] i'd not. [08:45] oh nm [08:45] quanchi: no [08:45] you can always go back later [08:45] Oh I see... [08:45] sorry they mustve changed that script since the last time i went there [08:45] "Tick this box" [08:46] wtf... tick [08:46] quanchi: just the default should be fine [08:46] ok [08:46] ok so what do I do with this [08:46] then copy and past the file into a new sources.list [08:46] and move the old one to sources.list.backup [08:46] sources.list I just created [08:46] ok [08:46] where is my sources.list located? [08:46] basically, sudo mb /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup [08:47] then, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [08:47] and paste the new file in it [08:47] ok [08:47] then ctrl-o ctrl-x [08:47] *sudo mv [08:47] not mb [08:47] quanchi: it's "sudo mv" not "sudo mb" [08:47] ok [08:48] yeah cause it was saying sudo: mb: command not found [08:48] after you finish, do a 'sudo apt-get update [08:48] ' [08:48] quanchi: ummm read what i just wrote [08:49] ok ok ok [08:49] so im in my new sources .list [08:49] now [08:49] paste and save it [08:49] I paste what I got from the ubuntu site [08:50] wierd [08:50] quanchi: i need to sleep soon, but basically after you save it, do sudo apt-get update [08:50] when I paste it [08:50] it doesnt paste the first like 9 lines [08:50] hmmm [08:50] i think i got it thogh [08:50] quanchi: quit nano and just do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [08:51] might be easier for you to use gedit [08:51] ok i did it [08:51] so I save this [08:51] how [08:51] ctrl o? [08:51] then enter [08:51] then crtl x to quit [08:51] right [08:51] ? [08:51] ya [08:51] ok [08:52] sudo apt-get update [08:52] [ Error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory [08:52] when i hit ctrl o [08:52] i get that [08:53] /etc/apt/sources.list [08:53] Im still in my source.list [08:53] atemping to save it [08:53] control o [08:53] then change the name to /etc instead of /ect [08:53] /etc/apt/sources.list [08:53] then enter [08:54] thats the directory it is [08:54] File Name to Write: /ect/apt/sources.list [08:54] then I hit enter [08:54] you have a typo there [08:54] and get [08:54] [ Error writing /ect/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory ] [08:54] realy [08:54] what does it need to say [08:54] you should have /etc [08:54] not /ect [08:55] save file under DIFFERANT NAME? [08:55] /etc/apt/sources.list not /ect/apt/sources.list [08:55] quanchi: ya it didnt write anything yet [08:55] just change the name [08:55] OK I did it [08:55] damn, wonder how that typo got in there [08:55] anyways [08:55] what now [08:56] ive got a shiny new sources.list [08:56] sudo apt-get update [08:56] ok, its updating [08:56] What exactly am I updating here [08:57] quanchi: if you added the words 'universe and multiverse' you are updating your capabilities to about 28,000 programs [08:57] just the available package list [08:57] from around 3000 [08:57] ok ok ok [08:57] quanchi: now, sudo apt-get install wine [08:57] W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263 [08:57] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [08:57] and /me need to sleep :) [08:58] :S [08:58] quanchi: what? [08:58] lol [08:58] i thnk its working now [08:58] installing wine [08:58] when this is done [08:58] I should just be able to type [08:58] wine [08:58] quanchi: apt-get update should not give any errors after this [08:59] ya [08:59] well wine seems to be installing [08:59] well... [08:59] read man wine [08:59] man wine? [08:59] type that in a command line (q to exit) to see how to use wine [08:59] or join #winehq [08:59] I see [09:00] nalioth [09:00] You know your way around wine? [09:00] quanchi: sorry my support is fairly sketchy but its 3am here and im uber tire [09:00] d [09:00] i do not. i run incompatible hardware [09:00] thats fine [09:00] Its been helpful [09:00] Incompatible hardware eh [09:00] what kinda rig you have? 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