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[07:54] Malone bug 86305 in gthumb "UVF exception: gthumb 2.9.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86305 === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AED309.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:08] dholbach: I pushed a gdm last night, you might want to check that I didn't b0rk the setup.py [08:10] kwwii: alrighty [08:12] kwwii: looks super [08:12] dholbach: great :-) [08:13] now if I could get the session splash to appear for more than 3 seconds I could finish that as well [08:13] dholbach: do you know where the bg color is set? (ie the bg color shown while the session splash is shown)? [08:17] dholbach: do you have a diffstat? [08:18] kwwii: feisty-wallpapers ubuntu-wallpapers.xml.in [08:19] dholbach: thnx :-) [08:20] Mithrandir: attached [08:20] dholbach: I'm wary of it; it's a large bunch of changes. [08:21] dholbach: however, bugs like 409799 looks quite scary. [08:22] yeah :-/ [08:23] dholbach: have you played with it for a bit to see if you can spot any immediate problems? [08:24] i played a bit with 2.9.2 and that was fine, I'll let you know about 2.9.3 once I'm through with the other gnome updates === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:31] dholbach: thanks. [08:32] dholbach: what's the status of the RC tarballs from gnome and getting them packaged? [08:33] working hard on it - looks like most of them got rolled over night [08:33] it was a question, not a nag. :-) [08:33] I understood it as that. :-) [08:34] good to hear. === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.187.123] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnf [n=fnf@58.187.187.123] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Rohinton [n=chatzill@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] hrmpf #$(*# no X after reboot [08:49] did you try mv'ing your xorg.conf out of the way? [08:49] that worked for me today [08:51] pitti: I guess it doesn't find all fonts? === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-7.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] pitti: Xorg.0.log please? [08:52] tepsipakki: if that's the case, one patch has been dropped in the merge [08:52] no, don't worry guys, it's just that lrm for -9 is not yet available [08:52] oh good, as i'm just updating :P [08:52] pitti: true that :) === pitti looks in NEW [08:52] oh, this'll be a fun herd, then. [08:52] oh yes, so it isnt === Mithrandir waves to Hobbsee [08:52] Mithrandir: and what's different from the others? :) [08:53] heya Mithrandir! [08:53] Mithrandir: oh, herd this Thursday? [08:53] pitti: indeed. [08:53] Mithrandir: oh, then I indeed need to talk to you [08:53] Mithrandir: did you get my report yesterday? [08:53] fabbione: I did, yes. It looks quite good. [08:53] pitti: shoot [08:53] Mithrandir: my plan right now was to review/promote compiz/desktop-effects and put it into the -desktop seed [08:53] Mithrandir: good... hopefully we will fix the export format to something more readable [08:54] Mithrandir: should that go into herd 5? [08:54] pitti: go for it. [08:54] pitti: we still need the new GNOME tarballs which are due today. [08:54] Mithrandir: ah, I'll NEW lrm and backports-modules, ok? [08:54] thanks a lot. [08:55] Mithrandir: also, I would like to sort out bug 67925 RSN [08:55] Malone bug 67925 in Ubuntu "Do not ship translations without matching input support" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67925 [08:55] Mithrandir: but that'll require large amounts of CD space, so dropping some translations in exchange [08:55] we're not very high on the number of translations atm. [08:55] iirc [08:56] Mithrandir: at least the good thing is that the fewer translations we ship, the fewer input methods we have to ship [08:56] heh [08:56] the thing that sucks is that the Chinese input tables require some 10 MB, and it's on the top of the list [08:57] Mithrandir: I'll do some more detailled research and come back to you with the plan [08:57] ok, thanks. I think post-herd5 might be a plan. [08:57] Mithrandir: ok, so I'll don't do that for h5 === pitti cleans up the other binary NEW stuff while he is at it [08:58] you're going to put compiz into Main? [08:58] LaserJock: under protest, but yes [08:58] pitti: fiddling with what goes on the cd is a lot less painful if you don't have me standing over you asking whether we're there yet. :-) [08:58] Mithrandir: heh, yes :) [08:59] pitti: yikes, good luck with that :-) [08:59] LaserJock: s/)/(/... that thing really sucks in various dimensions (usability, slowness, not working at all with nvidia, etc.) [09:00] pitti: compiz is being put as default now? [09:00] Hobbsee: noooo! [09:01] pitti: didnt think so. hence why are you putting it into the desktop seed? [09:01] Hobbsee: but we want desktop-effects installed by default for an 'one click to break your desktop' experience [09:01] yes, we'll remove metacity and kwin. === Mithrandir hides. [09:01] pitti: ahhhh....gotcha. === Hobbsee thwaps Mithrandir [09:01] it's all part of GettingRidOfTheDesktop spec [09:01] so it'll be install, just not turned on? [09:01] *installed [09:01] LaserJock: right [09:01] seems sort of reasonable [09:02] Mithrandir: neither beryl nor compiz works with kwin terribly well === pitti avoids sentences which contain both 'compiz' and 'reasonable' [09:02] no, I'm not bitter [09:03] pitti: heh === Mithrandir gives pitti some pills to make him relax. [09:03] :-) [09:03] Mithrandir: yay candies! === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] well, considering all the trouble we go to with MIRs, it seems like a bit of a double standard [09:05] not working with nvidia? i found compiz/beryl worked far more often with nvidia than ati [09:05] in fact i cant get neither compiz or beryl to run on my ati atm [09:05] Lathiat: well, if you count 'being slow and having no window decorations at all' working, then it works [09:05] Lathiat: the window decorations can be fixed with a magical xorg.conf option [09:05] hrm, works fantastically for me *shrug* [09:05] i was never able to get compiz to work with nvidia [09:05] i should probably give it another shot [09:06] pitti: oh yeh i think i had that option.. good point :P [09:06] which in turn breaks other things, but makes compiz work [09:06] heh [09:06] yeh the compiz+beryl stuff is still not "even nearly there" ;) [09:06] its a fantastic demo === carlos_ [n=carlos@84.77.172.68] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:06] and i dont mind using it for a bit but then it does weird things and then i just turn it off :P [09:06] with jsut the basic plugins, *mildly* wobbly windows, cube, brief fade in/out [09:07] burning windows is a bit much for me [09:07] burning windows? neat! [09:07] yeh its neat the first time [09:07] then you find the "multi color" option, its neat the second time [09:07] and then suddenly its extremely annoying [09:08] heh [09:08] I want exploding windows, with particle effects. And sounds. [09:10] Mithrandir: you have tried xblast, presumably? [09:10] hrm [09:10] does launchpad.net prevent google indexing bug reports or something [09:13] trying to find the bug where the fireworks screensaver with sounds interupts him & his girlfriend [09:13] and causes his grandmother to faint [09:13] and the neighbours to make a complaint [09:13] or something along those lines [09:13] Hobbsee: no sound and no particle effects, iirc? 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[10:33] hi lool === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@219.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] Mithrandir: hm, u-meta upload is still missing, the current ./update does very weird things for me (removed tons of stuff) === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.3.178] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki_ [n=shenki@ppp93-254.lns3.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-7.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] pitti, seb128: Feisty opening is planned for tomorrow morning [10:37] (translations) [10:37] yay! === pitti crosses fingers that it'll work this time [10:38] and we will start importing all new .pot and .po files from feisty (at that time, we will get a copy of Edgy) [10:38] carlos: nice! [10:38] maybe they'll make it to herd-5 [10:38] how long is going to take the import? [10:38] pitti: hmm. [10:38] pitti: I doubt of it, import is going to takes days probably [10:38] ah, right [10:38] pitti: and Thursday, I will prepare new language packs for it [10:39] seb128: at least two days... [10:40] tepsipakki: argh. my downwards scroll has broken. (on my touchpad) - the rest seems to work, though [10:42] question... isnt thursday supposed to herd5... would the import cause troubles for that?... just a thought being thrown out I really dont have any clue about the process [10:43] poningru: I don't see why it would cause problems for that? [10:43] ok cool [10:51] Hobbsee: ok, I'll look around for a fix === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:51] feh [10:51] so what's the workaround for X server not being able to find fixed fonts? :) [10:51] fabbione: you tell me :) === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:52] tepsipakki: does reverting the server to an older version work? [10:52] fabbione: it seems that for some /usr/share/X11/fonts is left behind by some package [10:52] that shouldn't matter [10:52] and so the symlink is not made [10:52] ah [10:53] where are fonts now? [10:53] hmmm ... how can I decouple falsely marked duplicates in lp? [10:53] /usr/share/fonts/X11 [10:53] seb128: ok thanks [10:53] asac: click on "mark duplicate" and empty the entry [10:53] fabbione: np [10:54] but.. hmm [10:54] /usr/share/fonts/X11 should be hardencoded in the server [10:54] i recall this patch somewhere [10:54] seb128: naturally :) [10:54] fabbione: in our previous version? [10:54] tepsipakki: yes [10:55] checking now... [10:55] it might be you forgot or drop a patch by mistake === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] fabbione: Debian dropped some patches and changed configure option for fonts [10:56] fabbione: we (and debian) used to have "--with-fontdir" as a configure option [10:56] and that was changed by debian in September to --with-font-path === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-0394dd4ed52d3b52] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:56] don't know if that has anything to do with this [10:56] fabbione: what do you think about http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/rpms/xorg-x11-server/devel/xorg-x11-server-1.1.1-builtin-fonts.patch?rev=1.1&view=markup ? [10:57] seb128: i can't look at it right now.. i am in deep text mode :) [10:57] tepsipakki: it might easily be... [10:57] fabbione: [10:57] -#ifdef KDRIVESERVER [10:57] BuiltinRegisterFpeFunctions(); [10:57] -#endif [10:57] "- Enable builtin fallback versions of cursor and fixed fonts." [10:57] patch from Fedora [10:57] might be [10:58] that would be a good idea maybe, if that makes xorg robust to fonts problems like that [10:58] seb128: i am checking some diff stuff now.. but i will stay in text mode to test the fix so i am unable to do a bunch of things easily [10:59] fedora also has "built-ins" appended to the --with-font-path [11:00] which maybe is what makes that patch to actually work [11:01] i can see a patch has been dropped between 1.1.1 and 1.2 [11:01] 11_debian... [11:01] in 1.1.1 [11:01] looking.. [11:02] the change is relevant to that font-path/font-dir change [11:03] fabbione: ok.. sigh [11:04] the numbering confused me [11:04] tepsipakki: the patch was dropped by Debian [11:04] [ Eugene Konev ] [11:04] but we need to understand why [11:04] * Use --with-default-font-path instead of --with-fontdir. [11:04] * Set RGBPath through --with-rgb-path. [11:04] * Drop 11_debian_always_use_default_font_path.diff. [11:04] * Drop 14_debian_always_look_in_our_module_path.diff. [11:04] * Ship SecurityPolicy in xserver-xorg-core. [11:05] right [11:05] oh, it was at the same time [11:05] the change was made.. [11:05] ahhhh [11:05] it looks like a typo somewhere [11:06] indeed [11:06] check the font path in debian/rules [11:06] " X11/fonts/Type1" [11:06] there is an extra space [11:06] let me try to rebuild without that space [11:07] that path seems just wrong to me [11:07] hum, right [11:08] hmm no [11:08] there is the correct one right before [11:08] never the less.. that one is wrong === shenki_ is now known as shenki [11:11] Whisky Foxtrot Tango! [11:11] well ok. i understand what's wrong... [11:12] basically with the old patch + configure command the default path was added dinamycally [11:12] with the new behaviour, we switch to it only if the font path in xorg.conf is totally bogus [11:12] in this case the font path is valid because of left overs [11:12] and we never look in the other path === fabbione sighs [11:13] so either we fix configs (difficult and bad) or we repatch the server === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:13] easy to decide ;) [11:14] or we use the fedora way and use builtin fonts? [11:14] seb128: we can try for sure [11:14] fedora uses both --with-fontdir and --with-font-path === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] in fact.. as soon as i change the config and add the correct paths it works [11:15] seb128: i have a test case here.. so it's easy for me to test... [11:15] ok [11:15] seb128: can you put that fedora patch somewhere i can scp it? [11:15] seb128: like chinstrap? [11:17] fabbione: done, on my user dir on chinstrap [11:17] tepsipakki: and we should probably do that too.. the 2 are not mutual exclusive [11:17] fabbione: seb128 tested it yesterday and that alone doesn't help, but maybe with 'built-ins' added to --with-font-paths it does [11:17] I was going to say that [11:18] yeah [11:18] let's try one thing at a time [11:18] first seb patch === fabbione builds === fabbione gets nausea for looking into X once again... [11:20] i HATE YOU ALL :P === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] seb128, Mithrandir: btw, do you plan to update the X video/input drivers for or after h5? [11:22] hello guys [11:22] pitti: there is not lot to update in fact [11:22] i have a discussion with some claws mail guys and need some adivce [11:22] pitti: upstream didn't roll much of new tarballs for drivers apparently [11:22] i am trying to build there cvs [11:23] but there are errors in it === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] tuxcrafter: that's not an user support chan, you might want to try #ubuntu [11:23] they say the cvs is not for compiling [11:23] seb128: ah, ok; is there a list/repo somewhere? I'll add the other packages to my 'to be rebuilt for maintainer' list then [11:23] what do you think? [11:24] pitti: no, but I'm going to keep looking at them today, any hurry or is that afternoon fine for giving you a list? [11:24] seb128: oh, don't worry, I won't get to 'X' before next week ;) [11:24] ok, so I will let you know [11:24] seb128: I'm still at 'l' === fabbione taps his fingers.... === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-21-197.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:30] can someone point me to the rules of using a cvs checkout [11:30] i believe in this: [11:30] i don't want to use tarballs i want to use cvs checkouts and dependencies need to be pointed out before compiling when run the .autogen.sh or .configure.sh script not when you are installing and get errors [11:30] but i want some feedback on it [11:31] tuxcrafter: this is not the right forum or place to discuss certain things. [11:31] please ask in #ubuntu [11:33] but ubuntu is for normal users i have developing questions [11:34] #ubuntu-motu check them out [11:36] tuxcrafter: that's not a developing question [11:36] or not about developing Ubuntu, what is what the chan is about [11:36] fabbione: sorry to have bother this list but it is very unclear than what kind of people are in this list. thought there were developers? [11:37] tuxcrafter: there are. they're also in other channels. === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] seb128: the patch is not enough [11:43] fabbione: :/ [11:43] tepsipakki: how does fedora call --with-fonts-dirs? or path? [11:44] ah, they have "--with-default-font-path="unix/:7100,built-ins"" [11:44] and "--with-fontdir=%(pkg-config --variable=fontdir fontutil)" [11:46] looking at the changelog they added "built-ins" to the path right after that patch [11:46] our fontdir would be empty [11:46] yep [11:46] or we need a build-dep === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] tepsipakki: trying that [11:48] built-ins... === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:52] tepsipakki: do you have any option to also check what pkg-config in fedora returns? [11:54] I have access to rhel4/5 [11:54] but they are servers [11:54] that won't help [11:55] oh wait [11:55] a friend of mine is a fedora-addict :/ [11:55] ask in #fedora? :) [11:55] or even #xorg-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:55] I'll check my friend first :) [11:56] hmmm .... maybe i should deploy a FC VM here ... === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] even with ccache it takes ages to build this code [11:59] tepsipakki: nope.. config path and patch don't help [11:59] seb128: ^ [11:59] so either their server works because of the pkg-config output === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:59] or we can safely revert the debian changes into the old ones [11:59] on FC6 it returns /usr/share/X11/fonts === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:01] seb128: fc6: /usr/share/X11/fonts [12:01] confirmed :p [12:01] heh [12:01] oh wait [12:02] so we could hardcode --with-fontdir to /usr/share/fonts/X11? [12:02] one more test === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:03] no never mind [12:05] ok i am back to X and we can look at the solution [12:05] heh [12:05] crashed quickly?-) [12:06] seb128, meh, all gdm related code is vanished from gss === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:06] ogra: and that's not good because...? [12:07] ogra: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407964 [12:07] Gnome bug 407964 in dialog "direct fast user switching" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [12:07] yep, saw it in the changelog === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] that's the work from fedora guys, they want user switching working out of the box for FC7 [12:08] which seems to be a good thing === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] right [12:10] re [12:10] so looks lik i can drop that one completely, nice ... [12:10] and we need no dep on gdm :) === pkl_ [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] gah....can someone write me a program to always be able to find my carkeys please? === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] Hobbsee: #include \nint main(int argc, char **argv) { printf("they're down the back of the sofa\n"); return 0; } [12:16] cjwatson: hahaha === Hobbsee doesnt have a sofa in here === Hobbsee would be very suprised if they ever managed to be behind the sofa... === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:20] tepsipakki, seb128: imho we should temporary revert to the old behaviour [12:20] it's know to work [12:20] fabbione: why "temporary"? [12:20] either that's right and we should do it === NthDegree [n=NthDegre@tapthru/resident/NthDegree] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] because it might take a while to get to the right fix === Gman_ is now known as GmanZZZ [12:21] or it's not and we should better to fix it properly now [12:21] fabbione: wouldn't it be enough to add "--with-fontdir=/usr/share/fonts/X11"? [12:21] tepsipakki: i am not sure... i didn't try that solution [12:22] and we keep adding vars.. patch/config options.. etc. === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:22] but anyway.. we know what it is [12:22] i leave it up to you how you prefer to fix it [12:22] I'll try --with-fontdir [12:23] tepsipakki: can you reproduce the bug locally? [12:23] otherwise i can drive you on how to do it [12:23] it's pretty simple tho [12:23] just delete the symlink [12:23] I should be able to [12:23] haven't tried [12:24] and make xorg.conf uses the /usr/share/X11/fonts path === fabbione ponders food [12:25] good idea === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] Mithrandir: could you please have a look at bug https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-cd/+bug/86133 ? [12:26] Malone bug 86133 in debian-cd "ubuntu-minimal cannot be found - herd 4 upgrade fails" [High,Unconfirmed] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] hmm, I really need to set up a local package cache.. painful to keep three machines uptodate via 1Mbit downlink :) === nags [n=nags@122.167.96.173] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpytasz [n=dduck@pc-212-51-218-194.p.lodz.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-21-197.net-htp.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gerrath [n=Shane_@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] mvo: u-m isn't Essential and it seems to be in the archive just fine.. === evand_ [n=evand@acmns.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] mvo: FYI ubuntu-cdimage product not debian-cd sourcepackage in Ubuntu [01:14] mvo: oh, sorry, I misread the bug report completely. Ignore me. :-) [01:14] cjwatson_: oh, sorry. I will remember this for the future [01:15] mvo: applying, thanks [01:15] cjwatson_: cool, thanks a lot! lets see if it works as it should :) === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] fabbione: --with-fontdir didn't help.. so I think we'll need to add that patch again [01:16] Mithrandir: WDYT about an UVFE for bug 87675? changelog looks reasonable [01:16] Malone bug 87675 in utf8-migration-tool "Please sync utf8-migration-tool (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87675 [01:16] `/win 82 [01:16] gah === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:18] dholbach, do you know if glibs handling of gthread changed somehow ? i cant get gss to build here ... [01:18] ogra: what is the build error? [01:18] /tmp/buildd/gnome-screensaver-2.17.8/src/gnome-screensaver-dialog.c:529: undefined reference to `g_thread_init' [01:19] ogra: i doubt it's glib's fault that g-s-s does not build [01:19] i'm already depending on glib2.0-dev [01:19] last glib upload: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:24:11 +0100 [01:19] Mithrandir: FYI, u-meta uploaded for desktop-effects [01:19] pitti: thanks. [01:19] and the configure output even lists it [01:19] Base libs: -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXfixes -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lX11 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lgobject-2.0 -lgnome-menu -lglib-2.0 [01:20] ogra: how many patches onfor g-s-s do we have? [01:20] dholbach: how's the new tarballs coming? As in, should I freeze now-ish and just let the rest through or would you rather I wait for a bit? [01:20] dholbach, one ... the one that checks for the LTSP_CLIENT env var [01:20] a two liner === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:20] Mithrandir: better ask seb128 once he's back on irc [01:20] dholbach: kthx === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:20] Mithrandir: I just came back from helping a friend with moving [01:20] Mithrandir: so i need to read mails first === mneptok [n=mneptok@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] ogra: can you upload the source package - I'l have a look [01:21] pitti: tbh, I think we should just throw it out of main. === silwol [n=silwol@194.152.122.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] Mithrandir: I just thought the same; but syncing it would be a good idea nevertheless [01:21] dholbach, sure, but i'ts not complete yet, so please dont upload it ... [01:21] ogra: sure [01:21] what package? [01:21] pitti: oh sure, if the motus want it. [01:22] seb128: hiya; how's the tarballs coming along? [01:22] seb128: g-screensaver ftbfs - i'll take a look at it [01:22] Mithrandir: I'll go ahead and unseed/demote/sync it then [01:22] pitti: cheers. [01:23] Mithrandir: mostly done, there 6-7 small tarballs left [01:23] seb128: coolie. Are you ok with me freezing now and just letting the last ones through when they show up, then? [01:23] Mithrandir: yes [01:23] seb128, gss [01:23] /tmp/buildd/gnome-screensaver-2.17.8/src/gnome-screensaver-dialog.c:529: undefined reference to `g_thread_init' [01:23] but [01:23] Base libs: -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXfixes -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lX11 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgconf-2 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lgobject-2.0 -lgnome-menu -lglib-2.0 [01:23] seb128, ^^^ [01:24] ogra: does it #include ? [01:24] libgthread is there and linked ... but the compiler complains about it [01:24] yes === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [01:24] ogra: do you want desktop-effects/compiz in edubuntu-meta? [01:25] pitti: are we getting compiz to desktop now? [01:25] ogra: and, initially, -desktop seed of course [01:25] ogra: where is the source package? [01:25] seb128: already done, as per last week's discussion [01:25] pitti, nope [01:25] ogra: 'k, because I need to merge seeds [01:25]