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| jwendell | good morning, folks | 12:23 |
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| jwendell | i've noticed today that - when i upgraded my feisty kernel - it automatically tried to recompile a proprietary modem module i have on my system | 12:24 |
| jwendell | this is a new feature, right? | 12:24 |
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| jwendell | BenC, ? | 12:53 |
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| stgraber | Was any sound driver update recently done in Feisty ? | 01:58 |
| stgraber | I just have no sound anymore and only the PCM mixer in gnome-mixer :) | 01:59 |
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| BenC | jwendell: No, sounds like the prop modem driver did that, not us | 03:41 |
| gismo_ | hello all | 03:41 |
| BenC | stgraber: Try alsamixe | 03:42 |
| BenC | alsamixer | 03:42 |
| gismo_ | I submited a bug last week: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15/+bug/86848 | 03:42 |
| gismo_ | but we still don't have news | 03:42 |
| jwendell | BenC, hmmm, smart driver, no? :) | 03:42 |
| BenC | jwendell: smart packaging (probably an init script) | 03:43 |
| gismo_ | lionel on ubuntu-motu just confirmed the bug and I tell to ask here | 03:44 |
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| Keybuk | BenC: I've updated initramfs-tools to get rid of the 10MB size limit for /dev | 04:02 |
| Keybuk | so beware there's an ubuntu4 in the queue | 04:02 |
| BenC | Keybuk: Ok, thanks | 04:03 |
| BenC | Keybuk: what caused you to hit a 10Meg limit in /dev? :) | 04:04 |
| Keybuk | bootchart | 04:04 |
| Keybuk | the Debian bug that caused the 10MB being added to initramfs-tools complained that it was disjoint with their udev package | 04:04 |
| Keybuk | since our udev package doesn't have a 10MB limit either ... the bug was invalid for Ubuntu :p | 04:05 |
| stgraber | BenC: same result as gnome-mixer : two playback channels pcm and mic with PCM doing strictly nothing | 04:11 |
| stgraber | BenC: it's one of those HDA sound card | 04:12 |
| kylem | crimsun, how much do you know about hda_intel cards? | 04:12 |
| BenC | stgraber: File a bug, noting that it regressed in -9, and assign it to the Ubuntu Audio Team | 04:13 |
| stgraber | ok, will do | 04:13 |
| BenC | kylem: I think one of crimsun's patches for hda regressed that actually | 04:13 |
| BenC | it's the only changes in the kernel for sound | 04:13 |
| kylem | eh? | 04:13 |
| kylem | my question was this Intel SDV exposes the pci device, but has no codec attached. was wondering if this is normal. :) | 04:14 |
| stgraber | BenC: Any information I should attach from the -8 and -9 ? (dmesg doesn't give much information) | 04:14 |
| BenC | stgraber: There's a wiki on what to supply with audio bugs, but mainly "lspci -vvn" and "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#*" seem to be the most useful | 04:15 |
| stgraber | ok, thank you | 04:16 |
| crimsun | stgraber: which codec? | 04:23 |
| crimsun | kylem: I know of a regression for conexant 504[57] that's fixed already, was too tired last night to push it | 04:23 |
| kylem | crimsun, this is not production hardware, so it's entirely possible that it is just missing the codec chip. | 04:24 |
| crimsun | essentially, jack sense broke and does the precise opposite of what is intended (plug in headphones -> sound out of both speakers and headphones; unplug headphones -> no sound) | 04:24 |
| stgraber | crimsun: ALC861 | 04:25 |
| crimsun | kylem: ok, can you get lspci -vvn ? | 04:25 |
| kylem | unfortunately no. i can tell you that it's ICH8... | 04:25 |
| crimsun | stgraber: right, when you've filed a bug with the info from DebuggingSoundProblems, I'll take a look after lectures | 04:26 |
| crimsun | kylem: hmm, any additional codec info? | 04:27 |
| kylem | crimsun, i'll poke at it in a bit and let you know, the machine is powered off atm. | 04:27 |
| crimsun | kylem: ok, thanks | 04:27 |
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| stgraber | crimsun: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88400 | 04:42 |
| stgraber | crimsun: Feel free to ask if you need any more information from the working or non-working kernel | 04:42 |
| crimsun | ack, beta? | 04:43 |
| crimsun | I can't log in there, using non-beta | 04:43 |
| stgraber | just remove beta. | 04:43 |
| crimsun | (I did) | 04:43 |
| crimsun | stgraber: err, the codec and SSID are correct. Have you unmuted 'Mixer' and 'Line'? | 04:49 |
| crimsun | that shouldn't be a regression at all, that's verified working for hardware from upstream | 04:49 |
| stgraber | I can't :) | 04:50 |
| stgraber | there are both in the Capture section | 04:50 |
| stgraber | and I can't set a volume or mute/unmute them | 04:50 |
| crimsun | ok, can you mute 'Mic'? | 04:51 |
| stgraber | yes | 04:51 |
| crimsun | still inaudible? (with speaker-test, let's say) | 04:51 |
| stgraber | I just tried with playing a mp3 file (mplayer -ao alsa) and changing all the settings I can and strictly no change ... | 04:52 |
| crimsun | I have to run to lecture, but if it's still inaudible, there are two separate things to try: | 04:53 |
| crimsun | 1) unload all alsa modules, remove /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, reload snd-hda-intel | 04:53 |
| crimsun | if that remains inaudible, then: | 04:53 |
| crimsun | 2) unload all alsa modules, reload snd-hda-intel passing model=ref | 04:54 |
| crimsun | please document results in 88400 | 04:54 |
| stgraber | ok, I'll | 04:54 |
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| stgraber | crimsun: results posted (they are bad) | 05:09 |
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| stgraber | crimsun: no change with single_cmd=1 | 08:57 |
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| kylem | hmm. perhaps adding a kernel command line flag to blacklist modules that udev could respect? | 09:13 |
| mjg59 | kylem: Might be helpful | 09:14 |
| kylem | [17179579.020000] current capacity is 66055248 sectors (33820 MB) | 09:14 |
| kylem | [17179579.020000] native capacity is 234493056 sectors (120060 MB) | 09:14 |
| kylem | yow. | 09:14 |
| mjg59 | ... | 09:15 |
| kylem | i wonder if some vendor is selling modern sized disk as replacement for old small disk just by using HPA. | 09:15 |
| mjg59 | Really? | 09:15 |
| mjg59 | Oh, yeah, that's likely | 09:15 |
| kylem | Windows will just blindly respect it, I imagine. | 09:15 |
| mjg59 | kylem: Some disks are set to 32GB because Award BIOSes older than 1999 or so will explode | 09:15 |
| mjg59 | The Windows driver sets them back to full size during boot | 09:15 |
| kylem | so basically /everyone/ dumps the HPA... | 09:16 |
| mjg59 | Nah, these are usually drivers that come with the disk | 09:16 |
| kylem | huh. my ps2 keyboard stopped working. | 09:52 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I've just sent you a patch to let appletouch actually bind to recent Macs | 10:05 |
| BenC | mjg59: I thought you already sent me that patch | 10:06 |
| mjg59 | I sent one for appleir | 10:06 |
| BenC | ah, that's the one I remember then | 10:07 |
| BenC | kylem: Odd, I didn't get that email | 10:07 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Though, looking at the code, the one I just sent was insufficient | 10:07 |
| BenC | and I'm sure I sub'd to that list | 10:07 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Hang on, I'll update | 10:07 |
| kylem | maybe you got bounced? :) | 10:07 |
| BenC | mjg59: Ok | 10:07 |
| mjg59 | BenC: New one sent | 10:11 |
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| BenC | mjg59: Thanks. I have a patch backlog that should go in tonight | 10:32 |
| mjg59 | BenC: No problem | 10:32 |
| mjg59 | I've one or two more minor Apple fixes to go | 10:33 |
| mjg59 | Will try to send them this evening | 10:33 |
| mjg59 | (Also, this machine compiles stuff bloody quickly) | 10:33 |
| BenC | mjg59: what sort of machine you using for builds now? | 10:40 |
| kylem | MBP? | 10:40 |
| BenC | trying to get my xeon upgraded to quad-core still | 10:40 |
| kylem | heh. | 10:40 |
| mjg59 | MBP at the moment | 10:40 |
| kylem | why haven't you? | 10:40 |
| BenC | kylem: waiting on "them" | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | Desktop core 2 otherwise | 10:41 |
| BenC | mjg59: Ah, yeah, my core2duo laptop compiled pretty quick | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | dual 2.33GHz with 2GB of RAM | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | It's the fastest machine I have | 10:41 |
| kylem | BenC, did you see the mail from "them" today? :) | 10:42 |
| BenC | mine's only 1.82GHz | 10:42 |
| BenC | 1.83 I mean | 10:42 |
| BenC | kylem: yeah, send them your address | 10:42 |
| mjg59 | Hm. We should ask Apple for permission to redestribute the firmware for the isight | 10:42 |
| kylem | someone should spec hacks for migration-assitant to copy all the windows drivers on livecd install. | 10:42 |
| kylem | so you can cut the firmware out. | 10:43 |
| kylem | (or mac os x drivers, clearly) | 10:43 |
| kylem | <- not volunteering, mind you. ;-P | 10:43 |
| BenC | mjg59: Not sure how well an email asking "Can you redistribute your firmware to facilitate a competing OS" will go over :) | 10:43 |
| mjg59 | kylem: Hm. Not a bad idea. | 10:43 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Haha. | 10:43 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Well, nothing to lose. Do we have people to handle this sort of thing? | 10:43 |
| BenC | mjg59: Yeah, we usually sick sabdfl on them | 10:44 |
| kylem | BenC, we don't really compete... | 10:44 |
| kylem | certainly not in battery life. ;-) | 10:44 |
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| mjg59 | Jesus. The build's finished already. | 10:44 |
| BenC | ah, to have decent batter life on linux | 10:44 |
| mjg59 | That's < 15 minutes for a full build | 10:44 |
| mjg59 | Though only one flavour | 10:45 |
| mjg59 | Ooh. Actually, it bailed partway through. | 10:45 |
| kylem | damn you and your speedy machines. | 10:45 |
| mjg59 | Right. it's actually going to take a bit longer now | 10:45 |
| mjg59 | Since it failed part-way through ubuntu | 10:46 |
| JanC | hm, I talked to someone from SARA at FOSDEM; they do linux kernel builds in 47 seconds and less :) | 10:46 |
| mjg59 | Ha | 10:46 |
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| kylem | but i usually don't build all the crap ubuntu does. ;P | 10:47 |
| JanC | of course, they are a cluster research centre ;) | 10:47 |
| kylem | er s/crap/fine community supported drivers/ | 10:47 |
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| ajmitch | kylem: such diplomacy is admirable | 10:49 |
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| zul | kylem: heh... | 11:05 |
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| zul | damn...I forgot what I was going to say.. | 11:06 |
| zul | how is it going Kyle? | 11:06 |
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| mjg59 | Hm. I've managed to build myself a kernel that won't boot. | 11:25 |
| mjg59 | "runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c" | 11:25 |
| mjg59 | If I've build myself the wrong architecture, I'll be jolly upset | 11:25 |
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| mjg59 | Ah, no | 11:46 |
| mjg59 | It just turns out that cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage isn't what you want to do on amd64 | 11:46 |
| mjg59 | BenC: New patch for applesmc in flight | 11:47 |
| kylem | mjg59, hehe. | 11:47 |
| mjg59 | Just adds the PNP ID so it'll be autoloaded | 11:47 |
| mjg59 | Should really convert it to a proper PNP driver for resource allocation, but, well | 11:47 |
| kylem | gah. so much to do. so little day left. | 11:48 |
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