[12:23] <animimotus> hi
[12:24] <animimotus> it's here where we can ask for a backport?
[12:24] <animimotus> for conky
[12:25] <animimotus> I have made a bug report in bugzilla
[12:25] <animimotus> some weeks ago :)
[12:26] <animimotus> please, send the bits ^^
[12:27] <lionel> animimotus: you have the process here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportRequestProcess
[12:28] <lionel> animimotus: I can not find your bug report
[12:53] <Adri2000> pochu: congrats :)
[12:53] <pochu> Adri2000: ty :)
[12:54] <pochu> I'm aboard :)
[02:15] <pochu> night motus! :)
[02:37] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> hey
[02:37] <geser> hi bddebian
[02:37] <bddebian> Hello tonyyarusso, how's it coming?
[02:37] <bddebian> Heya geser
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> bddebian: a little better.  I talked to the lead Ubuntu Mozilla dev and some folks from Linspire today, and got some good suggestions about the issues I've been having, so we'll see where that gets me.
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> Also, it is officially going to be allowed to be Nvu, so I can stop worrying about naming nuttiness.
[02:43] <bddebian> Great
[04:10] <bddebian> man it's quiet in here tonight
[04:11] <ajmitch> because some of us are working
[04:11] <bddebian> Bah :)
[04:11] <nixternal> hi, I want to be a UTOM, what do I have to do?
[04:11] <bddebian> Working is over-rated :-)
[04:11] <nixternal> ajmitch either lied or made a damn good funny :)
[04:12] <ajmitch> lied?
[04:12] <ajmitch> why you say I lie?
[05:12] <LaserJock> imbrandon: pingy pingy
[05:14] <bddebian> CONTENTLESS PING, CONTENTLESS PING!!
[05:15] <bddebian> :)
[05:15] <LaserJock> of course
[05:18] <boredandblogging> whats the page on the wiki for newbies interested in MOTU? like a page describing what mailing lists to sign up and process to even be MOTU hopeful? I'm interested in packaging ArgoUML
[05:19] <crimsun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment
[05:19] <RAOF> boredandblogging: First, you don't need to be a MOTU to package stuff.  Second, I think that ubotu can...
[05:19] <RAOF> !packagingguide
[05:19] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[05:19] <RAOF> !revu
[05:19] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[05:19] <crimsun> it's linked from the topic, of course. Please actually READ THE TOPIC.
[05:21] <boredandblogging> the first thing MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment talks says is "After working a while with the MOTU community..."
[05:22] <boredandblogging> assuming I haven't worked a while, where do I go?
[05:22] <RAOF> You package something, and post it on REVU?  You look at motu bugs and fix them, attaching debdiffs to the bug reports?
[05:22] <crimsun> you read a bit further down the page and click the UbuntuDevelopers link.
[05:23] <boredandblogging> that link to UbuntuDevelopers seems like its for if you want to go from MOTU hopeful to actual MOTU
[05:23] <boredandblogging> not for beginners
[05:24] <crimsun> did you actually READ UbuntuDevelopers?
[05:24] <crimsun> see the leading section, Prospective Developers
[05:25] <crimsun> the second and third bullets in that section are links to sections you'll want to read
[05:25] <boredandblogging> why i click on the link if the text leading up to it says "General guide lines for membership approval (which seems like its referring to becoming a MOTU from MOTU hopeful)"
[05:26] <crimsun> what is your interest? packaging only?
[05:26] <crimsun> if so, your first question is misleading, unclear, and serves to undermine our efforts to guide you
[05:29] <crimsun> Let us wrap it up in a nutshell. Say you want to package ArgoUML. Follow the Ubuntu Packaging and Debian New Maintainers' Guides. If you'd like to be able to upload your package(s) to Ubuntu, you'll need to 1) become an Ubuntu member; 2) become an MOTU.
[05:29] <boredandblogging> let me start again, I'm looking into how to be MOTU hopeful...the UbuntuDevelopers link is embedded in a paragraph about  how you want to go from MOTU hopeful to MOTU.
[05:29] <crimsun> right, so you'll want to read carefully what I just typed.
[05:30] <crimsun> Here's what I recommend you do:
[05:30] <boredandblogging> I understand, but telling me to read the topic doesn't lead me read UbuntuDevelopers, thats all I was saying. Didn't mean to get defensive or anything.
[05:32] <crimsun> 1) Read the Ubuntu Packaging and Debian New Maintainers' Guides; 2) Work with an MOTU mentor to get up to speed with REVU and general MOTU processes; 3) apply for Ubuntu membership after sustained involvement; 4) continue working with MOTU [as MOTU hopeful] ; 5) after sustained involvement in Ubuntu universe, apply for MOTU
[05:32] <boredandblogging> but UbuntuDevelopers is what I was looking for
[05:33] <bddebian> *cough*
[05:33] <crimsun> I really don't see how that _isn't_ followed from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:34] <crimsun> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[05:34] <crimsun> (or)
[05:34] <lotusleaf> one link to rule them all!
[05:34] <crimsun> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[05:35] <boredandblogging> the first sentence iin Recruitment is You have been a MOTU Hopeful for a while now
[05:35] <crimsun> well, sure, I pasted https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment _hoping_ that you had, in fact, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:35] <LaserJock> don't worry about that too much
[05:36] <crimsun> I'm sorry that I assumed people actually read the topic.
[05:36] <LaserJock> crimsun: want me to take this one, you seem busy? :-)
[05:36] <crimsun> sure, take it all, fiic.
[05:37] <nixternal> LaserJock: did you break my system with today/tonights updates?
[05:37] <nixternal> ;p
[05:38] <LaserJock> boredandblogging: don't worry about the MOTU Hopeful term
[05:38] <LaserJock> boredandblogging: it applies to anybody who is not an MOTU but wants to do motu work
[05:41] <LaserJock> boredandblogging: does that make sense?
[05:42] <boredandblogging> yes, in that case Recruitment makes perfectly good sense :-)
[05:57] <bddebian> wb ajmitch :)
[05:59] <nixternal> OK, so what are the tricks to this new xorg 7.2?
[06:00] <ajmitch> magic incantations?
[06:00] <nixternal> I need to disable my synaptics touchpad automagically when my external is connected. how do I go about that one now seeing we don't have a xorg.conf to work with?
[06:00] <superm1> xorg 7.2 scrapped xorg.conf finally?
[06:00] <RAOF> nixternal: Add an xorg.conf.  It still uses it.
[06:00] <nixternal> RAOF: well it didn't use mine
[06:00] <nixternal> it made me use tty1-6 :)
[06:00] <RAOF> :)
[06:11] <nixternal> woohoo, it works. just have to remove the composite from xorg.conf
[06:25] <jdong> nixternal: fglrx?
[06:25] <nixternal> no no
[06:25] <nixternal> Intel
[06:25] <nixternal> it still runs Beryl though, but really nasty
[06:25] <jdong> oh
[06:26] <jdong> hmm Intels should do fine when composite is on
[06:26] <nixternal> oh, when I had composite enabled it rocked
[06:26] <nixternal> but with xorg 7.2 when I enable composite, x-windows won't start
[06:26] <jdong> hmm
[06:27] <nixternal> unless they have it enabled by default
[06:27] <jdong> ick Xgl is leaking on me.
[06:27] <jdong> with the newest xserver-xorg-core composite is on by default
[06:27] <nixternal> ya I am going to hold off on the composite stuff anyways
[06:27] <nixternal> quite useless actually
[06:27] <nixternal> ahh, that is why
[06:27] <RAOF> I like scale.
[06:27] <nixternal> RAOF: +1
[06:27] <RAOF> It's non-useless :)
[06:27] <nixternal> me too, that is my favorite
[06:27] <jdong> yeah I like berl/compiz usability features.
[06:27] <jdong> scale
[06:27] <jdong> zoom
[06:27] <jdong> negative, too
[06:27] <jdong> (death to bright neon colored websites!)
[06:28] <jdong> transparency has also been really helpful for me
[06:28] <RAOF> The switcher's not bad.  Particularly now that it has an application-window switcher.  At least on my box :)
[06:28] <jdong> the ring-switcher is great
[06:28] <jdong> it helps see how many more tabs you need to hit to get to your window
[06:28] <jdong> and my classes distribute most of the reading material via PDF's
[06:28] <jdong> I'd like to save paper...
[06:28] <jdong> but not kill my eyes
[06:29] <jdong> inverting the colors is a lifesaver.
[06:29] <RAOF> I'd quite like to see the ring-switcher.
[06:29] <jdong> RAOF: the ring switcher is awesome...
[06:29] <jdong> I hope they port it to compiz soon
[06:29] <RAOF> Maybe I will.  I've looked at the code, and it seems fairly easy to port, at least :)
[06:31] <jdong> :)
[06:33] <nixternal> jdong: the ring switcher?
[06:33] <jdong> nixternal: winkey+tab
[06:33] <jdong> it's a switcher where windows are oriented in a ring
[06:33] <jdong> rather than in a filmstrip line.
[06:34] <nixternal> oh well, beryl won't even start up now
[06:34] <RAOF> No Composite for you?
[06:34] <jdong> poor nixternal .....
[06:34] <jdong> fully dist-upgraded?
[06:35] <jdong> need the new xserver-xorg-core appearing like 5hrs ago.
[07:00] <crimsun> nixternal: composite has been enabled by default since edgy.
[07:01] <crimsun> you may have exposed a bug in 019_ubuntu_enable_composite.diff, though
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <crimsun> hi
[07:05] <ajmitch> hey daniel(s)
[07:06] <dholbach> hiya andrew, hi daniel
[07:09] <cypher1> dholbach, good morning !
[07:09] <dholbach> hiya cypher1
[07:11] <cypher1> dholbach, have you used activkey  ?
[07:13] <dholbach> no, not at all
[07:13] <dholbach> what is it?
[07:13] <cypher1> dholbach, its a hardware for authentication
[07:14] <cypher1> dholbach, like smartcards
[07:14] <dholbach> no, I don't have that kind of hardware - sorry
[07:14] <tepsipakki> nixternal: did you use my experimental packages?
[07:15] <cypher1> dholbach, ok no problem.. i am struggling to get it work under ubuntu :(
[07:26] <AnAnt> Hello
[07:27] <AnAnt> did anyone manage to package nspluginwrapper ?
[07:27] <AnAnt> I see that there is a package in the Debian queue
[07:31] <nixternal> I got it working
[07:31] <nixternal> I had a line under my graphics card that shouldn't have been there
[07:32] <nixternal> although for me 7.2 is a downgrade over 7.1 w/ Beryl
[07:32] <nixternal> scrolling is garbage
[07:39] <Kagou> hi
[07:42] <nixternal> tepsipakki: which experimental package are you referring to?
[08:12] <tepsipakki> nixternal: if you don't know about them, you haven't used them ;)
[08:13] <tepsipakki> nixternal: do you have the new xorg-server which was uploaded yesterday?
[08:29] <LaserJock> yeah, I had to whip out xorg.conf to get X working after the updates today
[08:31] <tepsipakki> LaserJock: whip out?
[08:32] <LaserJock> wipe
[08:32] <LaserJock> mv it aside
[08:33] <tepsipakki> attach them to a bugreport ;)
[08:33] <LaserJock> why?
[08:33] <LaserJock> is it a bug?
[08:33] <tepsipakki> could be
[08:33] <LaserJock> it's just a default xorg.conf
[08:33] <tepsipakki> did you use EXA?
[08:33] <tepsipakki> oh
[08:33] <LaserJock> I don't think I changed anything
[08:34] <tepsipakki> so how could it be that, then ?
[08:35] <tepsipakki> old configs should work just fine
[08:36] <LaserJock> it looked like it was dying on either wacom or fonts
[08:36] <LaserJock> Hobbsee!
[08:36] <tepsipakki> did X fail to start and give some error?
[08:37] <LaserJock> yeah, the usual
[08:37] <tepsipakki> please diff the configs
[08:37] <LaserJock> what configs?
[08:37] <tepsipakki> duh, the old vs new
[08:37] <LaserJock> there is no new
[08:38] <tepsipakki> ah, so you are using it _without_ a config?
[08:38] <LaserJock> that's what I would gess
[08:38] <Hobbsee> LaserJock!!!
[08:38] <LaserJock> I just move xorg.config to xorg.conf.bak and restarted gdm and it worked
[08:41] <tepsipakki> ok
[08:41] <LaserJock> is that not normal?
[08:41] <LaserJock> I guess it *should* work with existing xorg.conf files
[08:41] <tepsipakki> running without a config is supported with the new server
[08:42] <LaserJock> that's what I assumed it wanted, that's why I mv'd my existing one
[08:42] <tepsipakki> but your old one should work
[08:42] <LaserJock> hmm, so that's 2 tonight that didn't work
[08:43] <tepsipakki> someone else had problems as well?
[08:44] <tepsipakki> the wacom errors (~"missing device") are harmless
[08:44] <LaserJock> yeah, nixternal was having problems
[08:44] <tepsipakki> but if there's something wrong with the fontpaths, it fails
[08:44] <tepsipakki> oh, of course
[08:45] <LaserJock> synaptics touchpad and composite were his issues I think
[08:45] <LaserJock> tepsipakki: I think it was the fontspaths perhaps
[08:46] <tepsipakki> LaserJock: do you have the latest xorg installed? (the metapackage)
[08:46] <tepsipakki> it should create a link from the old path to the new one..
[08:47] <LaserJock> tepsipakki: I have no idea, it's just the latest dist-upgrade in Feisty
[08:48] <tepsipakki> hmm, maybe we need to make the fontpath more robust
[08:48] <tepsipakki> not play with symlinks
[08:49] <tepsipakki> but give the server proper config options
[08:52] <slytherin> Can anyone tell me if https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-February/000249.html affects REVU uploads? I mean I will not be able to sign a package for REVU upload since I don't have ubuntu.com address. Am I right?
[08:57] <lionel> slytherin: yes, you have to put  Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> in the maintainer field and yourself in the XSBC-Original-Maintainer field
[08:58] <slytherin> lionel: Ok. I will try tonight.
[09:02] <tepsipakki> LaserJock: please file a bug on xorg and attach your non-working xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
[09:05] <LaserJock> tepsipakki: xorg or xorg-server?
[09:05] <tepsipakki> hum, the latter
[09:27] <LaserJock> tepsipakki: bug #88311
[09:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88311 in xorg-server "upgrade to 1.2.0-3ubuntu1 killed X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88311
[09:28] <tepsipakki> LaserJock: thanks
[09:29] <LaserJock> np
[09:29] <tepsipakki> just as I suspected..
[09:29] <tepsipakki> for some reason there is no FontPath entry for /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
[09:29] <tepsipakki> which has been there at least since dapper
[09:30] <tepsipakki> and I just noticed a dupe ;)
[09:30] <Lutin> buxy: ping
[09:30] <buxy> Lutin: pong
[09:30] <Lutin> buxy: may I pm ?
[09:30] <buxy> if you want
[09:31] <Lutin> ok, thanks
[09:32] <LaserJock> tepsipakki: this was a fresh Edgy install dist-upgraded to Feisty
[09:39] <zakame> hmm feisty borked today? I don't have X right now :/
[09:40] <LaserJock> heh
[09:40] <tepsipakki> zakame: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/88254 ?
[09:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88254 in xorg "xserver fails to start - missing FontPath in xorg.xonf" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[09:41] <LaserJock> check l-r-m or xorg.conf ^^
[09:41] <zakame> tepsipakki: bingo
[09:41] <zakame> hmm is ph.archive.ubuntu.com down? appears so in ping
[09:41] <tepsipakki> zakame: what does 'ls -ld /usr/share/X11/fonts' show?
[09:42] <zakame> hmm, /usr/share/X11/fonts
[09:42] <zakame> you mean ls -lR?
[09:42] <tepsipakki> so its there?
[09:43] <zakame> if I do `ls -lR $font_dir` I just get encodings and scale files
[09:43] <zakame> there are no font files installed
[09:43] <tepsipakki> that should be a symlink
[09:43] <zakame> to?
[09:43] <tepsipakki> to /usr/share/fonts/X11
[09:44] <zakame> oh, there we go
[09:44] <LaserJock> hehe, I've managed to get KDE to look like Ubuntu, how naughty of me :-)
[09:44] <tepsipakki> xserver-xorg installs that, but if there is a directory already it fails
[09:44] <tepsipakki> so we need to find a cure
[09:45] <zakame> hmm so I just delete the existing directory and do apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg?
[09:45] <tepsipakki> that should work
[09:45] <zakame> or would just a plain rmdir/symlink to real loc would do?
[09:45] <tepsipakki> that too ;)
[09:47] <zakame> heh
[09:47] <zakame> thanks tepsipakki, brb :D
[09:56] <shawarma> How many ACKs do we need on UVFe's? I forget.
[09:57] <LaserJock> 3 I think
[09:57] <Hobbsee> 2
[09:57] <LaserJock> 1
[09:57] <LaserJock> blast off!
[09:57] <shawarma> BOOM
[10:01] <shawarma> w
[10:01] <shawarma> Well that didn't help much. :-)
[10:01] <zakame> back
[10:01] <zakame> tepsipakki: thanks for the heads-up!
[10:02] <zakame> now it's the ipw3945 on 2.6.20-9 that's the problem :/
[10:02] <tepsipakki> zakame: so it worked?
[10:02] <zakame> yeah
[10:03] <Hobbsee> zakame: what's the problem with ipw3945?
[10:03] <GNUro> 'lo!
[10:04] <zakame> Hobbsee: no ipw3945, doesn't seem configured per iwconfig
[10:05] <Hobbsee> hrm.
[10:05] <Hobbsee> zakame: oh, got l-r-m installed?
[10:05] <Hobbsee> and updated?
[10:05] <Hobbsee> oh, here it comes now
[10:06] <zakame> exactly, there's no l-r-m-2.6.20-9-generic yet
[10:06] <zakame> and ph.archive seems to be down :/
[10:06] <Hobbsee> ah yep, it's here now...
[10:06] <Hobbsee> pitti put it threw NEW an hour ago?
[10:08] <zakame> oh, now its back up
[10:10] <zakame> tepsipakki: what was the bug number again? #88254?
[10:13] <tepsipakki> zakame: yep
[10:24] <LongPointyStick> done :)
[10:42] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: I've managed a whole evening in KDE without a random shutdown/hibernation or freeze :-)
[10:42] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: yay!
[10:43] <LaserJock> and now that I turned it brown it even looks OK ;-)
[10:44] <Hobbsee> haha
[10:44] <LaserJock> I grabbed the Ubuntu chocolate wallpaper
[10:44] <LaserJock> and some Ubuntu KDE color scheme off of kde-look
[10:44] <LaserJock> and used the Human icons
[10:44] <LaserJock> and it sort of works
[10:45] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:45] <Hobbsee> sad :P
[10:46] <LaserJock> I know
[10:47] <LaserJock> I mostly did it because my wife is used to Gnome and I'm going to try to set KDE as the default for a while
[10:47] <LaserJock> so if the desktop has the same colors and icons she won't really mind
[10:48] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[10:51] <LaserJock> tepsipakki: so do I need to have a /usr/share/X11/fonts link?
[10:51] <tepsipakki> LaserJock: yes
[10:51] <tepsipakki> with your old config
[10:51] <LaserJock> I've got one machine that had it as a directory and one that doesn't have it at all
[10:51] <tepsipakki> none of my machines have it as a directory :/
[10:52] <LaserJock> the machines should be basically identical
[10:52] <LaserJock> I installed edgy at the same time
[10:52] <LaserJock> and I upgraded to Feisty at roughly the same time (within a few weeks anyway)
[11:29] <fernando> moin all
[11:35] <tuxcrafter> can someone point me to the rules of using a cvs checkout i believe in this:
[11:35] <tuxcrafter> i don't want to use tarballs i want to use cvs checkouts and dependencies need to be pointed out before compiling when run the .autogen.sh or .configure.sh script not when you are installing and get errors
[11:36] <Hobbsee> ...why not use a tarball?
[11:37] <tuxcrafter> i em testing and helping debuggin
[11:37] <tuxcrafter> using a cvs has always been my methot
[11:38] <Hobbsee> tuxcrafter: are you looking to get these into the ubuntu archive at all?
[11:38] <tuxcrafter> yes
[11:39] <tuxcrafter> Hobbsee: what is the normal whay of getting the source and helping a testing a program?
[11:39] <tuxcrafter> the cvs or a tarball
[11:40] <Hobbsee> tarball
[11:40] <Hobbsee> well, for getting it into the archives
[11:40] <tuxcrafter> and why is that
[11:40] <Hobbsee> have you seen the packaging guide?
[11:40] <Hobbsee> !packagingguide
[11:40] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[11:40] <Hobbsee> btw, you wont get it into feisty now.
[11:41] <tuxcrafter> Hobbsee: it is for over 2 or 3 releasse
[11:41] <tuxcrafter> it needs to mature first
[11:41] <Hobbsee> right
[11:43] <tuxcrafter> Hobbsee: oke so its better to use the source tarball instead of the cvs
[11:43] <tuxcrafter> for testing
[12:27] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: any chance of fixing https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/40021 as well?
[12:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40021 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Synaptics side scroll is disable by default on Dell Inspiron6400" [Medium,Needs info]  
[12:30] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: seems my scrollbar didnt wnat to work without an xorg.conf file.  weird.
[01:20] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: that bug seems easy
[01:21] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: indeed.
[01:35] <tuxcrafter> Hobbsee: thank you for your help, i will speak with you later for help with maintaining a new package
[01:35] <Hobbsee> ok
[02:34] <swarog> hellow
[03:27] <gismo_> hello all
[03:28] <gismo_> I have a problem with vmware-player-kernel-modules under Dapper
[03:28] <gismo_> I submited a bug last week but I don't understand what's the problem
[03:28] <gismo_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15/+bug/86848
[03:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86848 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-28 still missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[03:29] <gismo_> yes
[03:29] <gismo_> why it's still unconfirmed ? Is someone able to run vmware player on Dapper under 2.6.15-28 ?
[03:30] <zul> dev probably hasnt gotten to it yet besides this channel isnt for support
[03:31] <gismo_> oups sorry
[03:36] <tuxmaniac> Heya gang
[03:37] <tuxmaniac> Yesterday, bddebian uploaded gnusim8085 on to revu. But I am unable to see it listed. Any reasons? 
[03:39] <lionel> gismo_: I have just confirmed the bug. Try to speak with kernel team on #ubuntu-kernel for that
[03:40] <gismo_> ok thanks !
[03:41] <Adri2000> tuxmaniac: he uploaded it to the archive, not revu
[03:41] <tuxmaniac> Adri2000, aah ok. thanks
[03:41] <tuxmaniac> :-)
[03:44] <imbrandon> root@akira:~# uname -m
[03:44] <imbrandon> mips
[03:44] <imbrandon> bwhahahaha
[03:44] <imbrandon> heya all
[03:46] <zul> imbrandon: er...why?
[03:46] <imbrandon> zul, just because ( its my router )
[03:46] <Adri2000> hi imbrandon
[03:46] <imbrandon> with openwrt
[03:46] <imbrandon> ello Adri2000 
[03:46] <Adri2000> imbrandon: what's the next build machine on the list? :)
[03:46] <zul> imbrandon: ah ok i guess thats acceptable then :)
[03:48] <imbrandon> Adri2000, definately not that mips , its only 200mhx and 16mb ram
[03:48] <imbrandon> ;)
[03:48] <Adri2000> hehe
[03:49] <jrib> are there any plans to get rid of the use of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates and replace it with something else?  Or can I still point people here if they want some program that isn't packaged?
[03:50] <fiXXXerMet> Hey everyone.  #ubuntu sent me here.  I was asking them how to request a package to be made for/added to ubuntu.
[03:50] <jrib> oh here he is :)
[03:50] <imbrandon> jrib, yes point them there is fine 
[03:50] <imbrandon> err yea
[03:50] <fiXXXerMet> lol
[03:50] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: you can request at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[03:53] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:54] <fiXXXerMet> thank you jrib
[03:55] <jrib> imbrandon: thanks.  some motu's were telling me that it might be getting replaced and that was several weeks ago, so I wanted to make sure
[03:56] <jrib> hi bddebian 
[03:56] <bddebian> Hello jrib
[03:57] <fiXXXerMet> Do I need to edit the wiki, or is there a submit page?
[03:57] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: you need to edit the wiki
[03:57] <fiXXXerMet> ok
[03:59] <imbrandon> heya bddebian 
[04:00] <bddebian> Hi imbrandon
[04:11] <bddebian> tuxmaniac: In NEW?
[04:12] <fiXXXerMet> Thanks everyone - I added the reques tot the list.
[04:12] <fiXXXerMet> How do I monitor the progress of this - keep checking the page?
[04:16] <tuxmaniac> bddebian, unable to find :-(
[04:20] <bddebian> It shows on LP:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/gnusim8085/1.3-0ubuntu1
[04:30] <crimsun> ouch
[04:30] <crimsun> compiz is now in -desktop? That utterly broke.
[04:31] <imbrandon> wha?
[04:32] <crimsun> ubuntu-meta (1.36) feisty; urgency=low -> * Added desktop-effects ... -> apt-cache show desktop-effects |grep ^Dep |grep compiz >/dev/null ; echo $? -> 0
[04:33] <imbrandon> wonderfull
[04:33] <crimsun> I restarted gdm, logged in, and was greeted with the black screen of death
[04:33] <imbrandon> i thought that was decided against
[04:33] <crimsun> ended up mving ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*
[04:33] <imbrandon> didnt sab post about that
[04:34] <crimsun> I don't think it's enabled by default
[04:34] <crimsun> I can't tell, though, because something definitely went wonky
[04:34] <imbrandon> i guess i'll know on reboot i just updates
[04:34] <imbrandon> updated*
[04:35] <imbrandon> and gnome is bugging me to reboot, but i was trying to finish my openwrt upgrade first
[04:36] <crimsun> I'm happy that I can properly log out now from gnome-session, though.
[04:43] <imbrandon> yea that would be a good thing
[04:44] <imbrandon> crimsun, are you actively using that debian image ( this moment )
[04:44] <imbrandon> e.g. if i shut my router off for a little while will it effect you ?
[04:51] <crimsun> imbrandon: no, and no.
[04:51] <imbrandon> kk i'm gonna take it offline for a bit then
[04:51] <imbrandon> to switch to this openwrt router
[05:49] <larsivi> kvpnc don't work out of the box - something with kdesu
[05:49] <larsivi> After entering my su password, I get "Fann ikkje kommandoen su-to-root -X -c /usr/bin/kvpnc ."
[05:49] <larsivi>  which translated is "Couldn't find command ..."
[05:50] <larsivi> I tried to symlink su-to-root to sudo, but -X is not an option for sudo
[05:51] <larsivi> I suppose I should report this somewhere, but to which tracker?
[05:52] <_ion> Launchpad
[07:13] <LaserJock_> imbrandon!
[07:13] <imbrandon> LaserJock_, !!
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> ... someonewholovesme!!
[07:14] <imbrandon> heh
[07:14] <zul> hey guys
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> :)
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> hi LaserJock_ 
[07:14] <imbrandon> heya zul 
[07:17] <LaserJock_> imbrandon: KDE seems to be acting ok for me know. I used it all last night without a hitch
[07:17] <LaserJock_> imbrandon: btw, Ctrl-C doesn't work in konsole for me, I must have messed something up
[07:17] <imbrandon> hrm
[07:17] <imbrandon> strange
[07:17] <imbrandon> i'll definately see why tonihgt
[07:18] <LaserJock_> it could be because I went in and mapped it to Shift-Del
[07:19] <imbrandon> possibly, but most likely a bug
[07:20] <LaserJock_> how many of you guys thing a package whiteboard would be helpful on LP?
[07:20] <imbrandon> for what?
[07:20] <LaserJock_> I was thinking leaving notes when we're doing stuff like merges
[07:21] <LaserJock_> i'm not sure if it'd get abused and turn into bug reports or not
[07:22] <LaserJock_> I was just thinking that bugs aren't really that appropriate for non-bug related stuff
[07:22] <LaserJock_> we use bugs quite a bit for process related stuff
[07:23] <geser> something to make comments (like sync requested, FTBFS, etc.) would be useful
[07:23] <zul> heh...i would leave grafitti on it ;)
[07:23] <LaserJock_> canadians *rolls eyes*
[07:23] <geser> so that one wouldn't need to redo a merge to figure out that there's a problem
[07:25] <zul> LaserJock_: we might be pacifists.....then again we might not
[07:27] <LaserJock_> like, in my mind it'd be cool if I'm merging and first I go to the source page on LP and check the whiteboard and see that somebody else tried to merge the package but it had problem X
[07:28] <LaserJock_> or we did some funky short term fix so we leave a note that the change can be dropped next time
[07:29] <LaserJock_> or if we think gentoo is the suxor we can spray paint that somewhere ;-)
[07:32] <imbrandon> grr
[07:33] <imbrandon> anyone else good with apache2 in here?
[07:45] <imbrandon> hum got it
[07:46] <crimsun> LaserJock_: more and more it seems like we need a ticket system; one central place to grab merges
[07:46] <LaserJock_> yeah
[07:47] <LaserJock_> I was thinking it'd be interesting to have a page that showed all the packages in some activity (unmet deps, merges, etc.) and then have like a checkbox for state and a comment field for who's doing it or notes
[07:48] <LaserJock_> that would be a simplistic approach
[07:48] <imbrandon> yea lp becomes an erp ;)
[07:50] <LaserJock_> I think an essential issue with LP is that it looks at packages from a single maintainer point of view. It's not really designed for team maintainance I don't think
[07:52] <imbrandon> well upuntill ubuntu nothing was really designed for a team , package wise
[07:52] <imbrandon> so that kinda makes sense
[07:52] <imbrandon> but not optimal 
[07:53] <LaserJock_> right
[07:54] <mohammad> Hello I have uploaded a package to revu, now I am getting a lot of spam I decided to change my email adress to get rid of more spams but it seems that's impossible
[07:55] <geser> crimsun: as you uploaded flashplugin-nonfree in the past: have you seen the debdiff in bug #85911? is it ok to upload it?
[07:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85911 in flashplugin-nonfree "Description should be Ubuntu-specific" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85911
[07:55] <mohammad> i uploaded once with my new email address but I could not login to revu 
[07:55] <LaserJock_> mohammad: if you upload a new package with your new address (make sure it's in your gpg key too) it should work
[07:57] <mohammad> LaserJock_: I added this new address to my previous gpg key then send the key to keyservers, then I uploaded the new package with new email, uploading was done successfully but 
[07:57] <mohammad> LaserJock_: but i am unable to login with new address
[07:58] <LaserJock_> mohammad: did you try the password recovery?
[07:58] <mohammad> LaserJock_: yes but it did not give me any encrypted password
[07:58] <crimsun> geser: +1, feel free to update & upload. Please consider rolling in fix for bug 80545 / bug 86089 in that upload, too.
[07:58] <LaserJock_> hmm, when is the next MOTU meeting?
[07:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80545 in flashplugin-nonfree "Don't use /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80545
[07:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86089 in flashplugin-nonfree "FHS violation, wrong install location" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86089
[07:59] <LaserJock_> mohammad: you might want to email the REVU admins
[08:00] <bddebian> Gaaah I hate my job some days
[08:01] <mohammad> LaserJock: thank you
[08:02] <crimsun> ok, so people are now requesting that we mute all sound during install and first boot
[08:02] <ajmitch> morning
[08:02] <crimsun> ('morning)
[08:02] <LaserJock_> what?
[08:02] <LaserJock_> why?
[08:03] <LaserJock_> hi ajmitch
[08:03] <crimsun> stuff like "too loud/I'm installing in X's office and don't want to disturb/installing or booting while in a meeting"/etc.
[08:04] <crimsun> I have no idea what any sort of majority opinion would be, so I'll take it to -discuss
[08:04] <crimsun> there's no way we can please everyone with either decision
[08:05] <ajmitch> ah, getting warning of a 3 hour launchpad downtime a few hours before it happens
[08:05] <nixternal> crimsun: tell them to install windows then :)  Oh wait, that install is obnoxiously louder and more annoying
[08:05] <crimsun> either approach will generate more bug reports
[08:06] <crimsun> "omgsounddoesn't work -> I had to manually unmute"
[08:06] <crimsun> "omgsoundtooloud -> I had to manually mute"
[08:06] <LaserJock_> yeah
[08:06] <crimsun> maybe implement crystalball() in the installer?
[08:07] <LaserJock_> although I'd tell people to just turn their speakers down if they don't want the noise
[08:07] <ajmitch> crimsun: tealeaves() works better
[08:07] <crimsun> ajmitch: ah, true
[08:08] <ajmitch> LaserJock_: harder to do that on a laptop
[08:08] <LaserJock_> ajmitch: it is?
[08:10] <ajmitch> LaserJock_: at least on mine it takes a little while before it'll respond to 'volume down' events from the keyboard
[08:11] <ajmitch> or at least it seems to :)
[08:11] <LaserJock_> oh, mine has a little wheel on the side
[08:11] <LaserJock_> I don't use the keyboard for volume
[08:13] <ajmitch> lucky you :)
[08:15] <Adri2000> crimsun: can you +1 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-gammu/+bug/88042 please
[08:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88042 in python-gammu "[UVF exception request]  python-gammu 0.17-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[08:16] <imbrandon> later ajmitch 
[08:17] <crimsun> bug 88042
[08:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88042 in python-gammu "[UVF exception request]  python-gammu 0.17-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88042
[08:18] <crimsun> Adri2000: ^
[08:18] <Adri2000> thanks
[08:19] <LaserJock_> well, I got some good LP info today
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> oh?
[08:23] <LaserJock_> I figured out how +bugs-text works
[08:23] <LaserJock_> and +text
[08:24] <LaserJock_> so we can get plain text files for bug numbers and then bug info
[08:24] <LaserJock_> also got an estimate on when our +filebug tag preloading might roll out
[08:25] <LaserJock_> so we can start moving package requests onto LP
[08:25] <crimsun> what I really need is a big red button on LP that functions as "reassign all my bugs to Jordan"
[08:26] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:26] <LaserJock_> ouch
[08:26] <LaserJock_> that would be entirely unproductive and a disaster
[08:27] <crimsun> but _entirely_ productive and non-disastrous for me
[08:28] <crimsun> I must admit that tracking development gnome snapshots really destroys any sense of muscle memory I might have had
[08:28] <crimsun> System> Control Center? whateva!
[08:31] <LaserJock_> lol
[08:38] <imbrandon> woot , ssl working 
[08:38] <ajmitch> good
[08:39] <imbrandon> ubuntuwire.com is now ssl enabled for signup ( and actualy redirected there if you dont goto https by default )
[08:39] <imbrandon> yea , apache is quite fun <rolls eyes>
[08:42] <LaserJock_> I'm going to KILL IT!
[08:42] <ajmitch> oh it is
[08:42] <ajmitch> calm down LaserJock_ 
[08:43] <imbrandon> heh
[08:43] <imbrandon> kill what LaserJock_ 
[08:43] <zul>  LaserJock_: rant...you will feel better
[08:43] <LaserJock_> imbrandon: I'm trying to set up a .htaccess for mod_python
[08:45] <imbrandon> ahh
[08:48] <moxfyre> hi admins... I've just created an updated GTKWave package (the old one hadn't been maintained in a couple years)
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> imbrandon: bah, apache's not that hard
[08:48] <moxfyre> can someone ... uh ... "re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring"
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> as long as you don't mind reading four thousand docs ;)
[08:50] <moxfyre> i've followed all the directions in MOTU/Packages/REVU, would like to get this into universe :-)
[08:52] <moxfyre> any admins here?
[08:52] <imbrandon> moxfyre, yea give me justa sec
[08:52] <moxfyre> excellent!
[09:10] <imbrandon> moxfyre, done
[09:13] <moxfyre> thanks!
[09:14] <imbrandon> np
[09:17] <moxfyre> the package i uploaded was already in universe, but in a very old version... should i send some kind of explanation of what I did to REVU?  there's just a couple lines on it in the changelog
[09:18] <imbrandon> hum well honestly you would have been better off making a debdiff and attaching it to a bug on LP and subscribing u-u-s
[09:19] <imbrandon> REVU is more for NEW packages
[09:20] <bddebian> w00t, kiss my ass .NET! :-)
[09:22] <moxfyre> Gotcha.  There was no maintainer for the gtkwave package on Launchpad, since it was just a package copied from debian unstable... so I thought I should put it on REVU
[09:26] <Q-FUNK> moxfyre: either that or submitted a patch to the maintainer on the Debian side.
[09:26] <Q-FUNK> maybe offer him to co-maintain as well
[09:27] <moxfyre> okay, so if I get the Debian maintainer to update it, then that package will eventually find its way into Feisty?
[09:29] <moxfyre> well... my REVU upload is still getting rejected anyway :-)
[09:36] <LaserJock> zul: hehe, just can't help pit eh?
[09:36] <ajmitch> yay, short TB meeting
[09:36] <zul> heh...people are pissing me off
[09:37] <LaserJock> it happened already?
[09:37] <ajmitch> LaserJock: TB, or pissing zul off?
[09:37] <LaserJock> TB
[09:37] <bddebian> heh
[09:37] <LaserJock> zul getting pissed off this early isn't a suprise
[09:38] <LaserJock> ;-)
[09:38] <ajmitch> :)
[09:38] <zul> thats not nice..
[09:38] <LaserJock> uh oh, I've pissed him off now
[09:38] <ajmitch> LaserJock: yes, with the motu council supposedly handling new applications, it was a little shorter than most TB meetings
[09:38] <LaserJock> ajmitch: anything of importance?
[09:39] <ajmitch> new TB nominations announced soon?
[09:39] <ajmitch> that was the only thing discussed, really
[09:39] <LaserJock> anybody noticed the +text pages on LP: https://launchpad.net/bugs/43150/+text
[09:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 43150 in wxmaxima "[SRU]  maxima frontends fail to connect" [Medium,Fix released]  
[09:40] <ajmitch> I thought bughelper was using those?
[09:40] <LaserJock> oh, well that makes sense
[09:40] <LaserJock> I didn't know it existed
[09:40] <ajmitch> I forgot about them, but they've been there for awhile I think
[09:41] <LaserJock> I also figured out how to get +bugs-text to do what I want (i.e. show only open bugs)
[09:41] <LaserJock> well, *I* didn't figure it out, kiko told me
[09:41] <ajmitch> useful!
[09:41] <ajmitch> heh
[09:42] <LaserJock> I was complaining about +bugs-text to him today
[09:42] <LaserJock> I also got a estimate of the 1.0 release
[09:42] <LaserJock> *an
[09:43] <LaserJock> which is when the +filebug tag preloading will roll out
[09:44] <ajmitch> yes, I saw that
[09:45] <LaserJock> I think if we decide on a tag to use we can set up a doc for a junior job to move Candidates to LP
[10:11] <bddebian> Who the heck is Alexandar Sack?
[10:11] <zul> he is the new mozilla maintainer
[10:11] <bddebian> Ahh
[10:11] <ogra> or asac
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> bddebian: ya, asac in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[10:15] <animimotus> lionel: [mar fv 27 2007]  [00:28:08]  <lionel>   animimotus: I can not find your bug report -----> https://launchpad.net/edgy-backports/+bug/82543    ;)
[10:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82543 in edgy-backports "Please a backport Conky to Edgy ?" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[10:16] <animimotus> thx Adri2000 ;)
[10:21] <geser> caravena: please don't assign bugs to motu-uvf which are only about new Debian revisions but not about new upstream releases
[10:22] <caravena> geser: ok.
[10:31] <LaserJock> umm, so what would be the UVF exception policy for a Multiverse package?
[10:31] <ajmitch> LaserJock: same as for universe, the only difference is licensing
[10:32] <LaserJock> but if it's a binary there's not much code to review
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> ajmitch: exemption applications are done as bugs subscribing -utf, right?
[10:33] <cbx333> LaserJock, fixed the mod_python yet?
[10:33] <LaserJock> cbx333: well, I just used what you gave me and am just doing 1 main .py per dir
[10:33] <cbx333> hehe
[10:34] <ajmitch> tonyyarusso: assigning to
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> ajmitch: ah, ok
[10:36] <ajmitch> geser: was it to motu-uvf, or to motu?
[10:38] <LaserJock> why?
[10:39] <ajmitch> LaserJock: it doesn't really help anything by assigning a bug to motu for a uvf exception request
[10:39] <LaserJock> no, not if it's a uvfe
[10:39] <geser> ajmitch: bug #88481 is assigned to motu-uvf, bug #88492 was also before my upload
[10:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88481 in unrar-nonfree "Please sync unrar-nonfree 3.7.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88481
[10:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88492 in tiemu "Please merge tiemu 2.00-3 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88492
[10:39] <LaserJock> I thought you just ment in general
[10:39] <ajmitch> in general it's not really helping anyway :)
[10:40] <jdong> can I prod bug 87687 towards motu-uvf?
[10:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87687 in xserver-xgl "New git snapshot required for xorg 7.2/feisty" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87687
[10:40] <ajmitch> jdong: sure, by following process & assigning it :)
[10:41] <jdong> ajmitch: WTF half of you guys want subscribing and the rest want assigning :)
[10:41] <ajmitch> geser: ah, bug 88481, that +1 is just confusing :)
[10:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88481 in unrar-nonfree "Please sync unrar-nonfree 3.7.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88481
[10:41] <ajmitch> jdong: yes, and it's all documented
[10:42] <jdong> ajmitch: well I apologize profusely then.
[10:42] <ajmitch> that's ok, you can pay later
[10:43] <ajmitch> jdong: having an additional version on top of one that's not uploaded just confuses things
[10:44] <jdong> ajmitch: I'm sorry, didn't know how else to do it
[10:44] <jdong> ajmitch: in my defense the original version worked at the time it was filed
[10:45] <jdong> ajmitch: should I open up a 2nd report or will you cope with it :D
[10:45] <ajmitch> jdong: why would you need a second report?
[10:45] <jdong> ajmitch: reject the current one and open one with just the latest patch?
[10:46] <jdong> or would that not be necessary?
[10:46] <ajmitch> you're just making more work for everyone :)
[10:46] <jdong> ajmitch: I'm sorry
[11:06] <sacater> hey does anyone know where gpocentek is
[11:07] <mr_pouit> sacater: he's sleeping :D
[11:07] <sacater> mr_pouit: how long has he been asleep, i need some mentoring
[11:07] <sacater> ive rebuilt a source package as he asked :P, and now hes asleep
[11:07] <sacater> :(
[11:08] <sacater> any idea when hell be online tomoz
[11:08] <Adri2000> his tz is CET
[11:09] <keescook> hmpf. anyone run into issues with the xorg 7.2 update?
[11:10] <ajmitch> I see holy holbach is going to be at it again
[11:11] <keescook> it's weird, everything looks fine, but the logs say it can't find the "fixed" font...
[11:12] <Adri2000> keescook: some fontpath is wrong in Xorg.conf
[11:13] <Adri2000> fonts/X11 // X11/fonts
[11:13] <keescook> Adri2000: I'll double check; the logs only complained about CID stuff being missing.
[11:15] <dlenski> hi, earlier I asked an admin to re-sync the REVU keyring, so that I could upload a new package
[11:15] <dlenski> but it doesn't seem to have gone through :-(
[11:15] <dlenski> i've followed the complete instructions in wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[11:15] <dlenski> can someone sync it again?
[11:17] <geser> ajmitch: ^^^
[11:17] <phanatic> keescook: had the same problem, a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg helped...
[11:17] <keescook> phanatic: cool, thanks.  bdmurray pointed me at 88254 too.
[11:18] <phanatic> bug 88254
[11:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88254 in xorg "xserver fails to start - missing FontPath in xorg.xonf" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88254
[11:23] <keescook> ah-ha, success!  xorg happy again
[11:24] <phanatic> great :)
[11:24] <jdong> Xgl still isn't
[11:24] <ajmitch> dlenski: ok, doing it
[11:25] <jdong> beg(): return "pretty"+beg()+"please"
[11:25] <ajmitch> jdong: bug me further, and I'll ignore the bug :)
[11:25] <dlenski> ajmitch: thanks!  not sure what the problem was earlier
[11:26] <ajmitch> dlenski: you may have been in the keyring, but uploaded a binary package
[11:26] <otherguy> ajmitch: have you looked at xserver-xgl in feisty yet? :)
[11:26] <dlenski> ajmitch: i did accidentally try and upload a binary package, that's right
[11:26] <jdong> :)
[11:27] <ajmitch> dlenski: ok, I'll clear it & tell you when you can upload again
[11:29] <dlenski> ajmitch: thanks.  when i try to recover my password on revu.tauware.de, it gives me a GPG message which decrypts to the string "None"... seems like I confused a python program somewhere!
[11:30] <ajmitch> because you don't have a successful upload
[11:32] <ajmitch> dlenski: ok, what did you try & upload?
[11:35] <shawarma> ajmitch: You confirmed my UVFe: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rawstudio/+bug/88020 but did not subscribe ubuntu-archive... Is there a deeper meaning to that or did you just forget?
[11:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88020 in rawstudio "UVF: Please sync 0.5.1-1 from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[11:36] <dlenski> ajmitch: i tried to upload the gtkwave package, but then someone suggest i contact the Debian maintainer instead
[11:37] <geser> shawarma: after an uvfe is confirmed it's up to you to continue
[11:37] <dlenski> ajmitch: ... and then i tried to upload the cpuid package
[11:38] <ajmitch> and did you get an email in reply?
[11:38] <shawarma> geser: Oh, really? Last time they did it for me. I assumed it was the procedure.
[11:38] <LaserJock> for goodness sakes
[11:39] <LaserJock> I hate moving targets and Python on Mac
[11:39] <ajmitch> dlenski: the cpuid package doesn't appear on tiber, so I suspect you may have uploaded to the wrong place
[11:40] <dlenski> hmmm... i got "upload rejected" emails
[11:41] <ajmitch> then you probably uploaded to ubuntu, not revu
[11:41] <dlenski> d'oh!
[11:42] <dlenski> apparently, i'm an idiot
[11:42] <dlenski> i think that's what i did, i ought to learn to read the dput man page
[11:44] <ajmitch> :)
[11:46] <dlenski> ajmitch: sorry about that *whacks self on head*
[11:46] <ajmitch> no problem
[11:48] <ajmitch> ok, it appears on revu now
[11:52] <dlenski> indeed!  thanks a lot
[11:53] <dlenski> just one thing to clarify: lintian doesn't like the distro name feisty
[11:53] <dlenski> should it be unstable?
[11:53] <ajmitch> no, ignore that 
[11:53] <ajmitch> that system doesn't have a recent lintian installed
[11:53] <dlenski> ah, gocha
[12:09] <sistpoty> hi folks
[12:09] <LaserJock> hi sistpoty 
[12:09] <sistpoty> hi LaserJock
[12:09] <sistpoty> argl... missed TB meeting today :/