=== fernando_ [n=fernando@189.0.152.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sloof3 [n=andy@pdpc/supporter/student/sloof3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === animimotus [n=animimot@unaffiliated/animimotus] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] hi [12:24] it's here where we can ask for a backport? [12:24] for conky [12:25] I have made a bug report in bugzilla [12:25] some weeks ago :) [12:26] please, send the bits ^^ [12:27] animimotus: you have the process here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportRequestProcess [12:28] animimotus: I can not find your bug report === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@103-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-107-150.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] pochu: congrats :) [12:53] Adri2000: ty :) [12:54] I'm aboard :) === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable049.150-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@198.150.218.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.245.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] night motus! :) === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === g0sU [n=moxilo@141.30.212.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] Heya gang [02:37] hey [02:37] hi bddebian [02:37] Hello tonyyarusso, how's it coming? [02:37] Heya geser [02:38] bddebian: a little better. I talked to the lead Ubuntu Mozilla dev and some folks from Linspire today, and got some good suggestions about the issues I've been having, so we'll see where that gets me. [02:39] Also, it is officially going to be allowed to be Nvu, so I can stop worrying about naming nuttiness. [02:43] Great === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@103-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] man it's quiet in here tonight [04:11] because some of us are working [04:11] Bah :) [04:11] hi, I want to be a UTOM, what do I have to do? [04:11] Working is over-rated :-) [04:11] ajmitch either lied or made a damn good funny :) [04:12] lied? [04:12] why you say I lie? === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blimpdude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@29.182.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blimpdude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11214rn.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] imbrandon: pingy pingy === blimpdude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu === boredandblogging [n=asdfasdf@c-24-98-177-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] CONTENTLESS PING, CONTENTLESS PING!! [05:15] :) [05:15] of course === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-101-187.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] whats the page on the wiki for newbies interested in MOTU? like a page describing what mailing lists to sign up and process to even be MOTU hopeful? I'm interested in packaging ArgoUML [05:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment [05:19] boredandblogging: First, you don't need to be a MOTU to package stuff. Second, I think that ubotu can... [05:19] !packagingguide [05:19] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [05:19] !revu [05:19] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [05:19] it's linked from the topic, of course. Please actually READ THE TOPIC. [05:21] the first thing MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment talks says is "After working a while with the MOTU community..." [05:22] assuming I haven't worked a while, where do I go? [05:22] You package something, and post it on REVU? You look at motu bugs and fix them, attaching debdiffs to the bug reports? [05:22] you read a bit further down the page and click the UbuntuDevelopers link. [05:23] that link to UbuntuDevelopers seems like its for if you want to go from MOTU hopeful to actual MOTU [05:23] not for beginners [05:24] did you actually READ UbuntuDevelopers? [05:24] see the leading section, Prospective Developers [05:25] the second and third bullets in that section are links to sections you'll want to read === bddebian should read that [05:25] why i click on the link if the text leading up to it says "General guide lines for membership approval (which seems like its referring to becoming a MOTU from MOTU hopeful)" === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] what is your interest? packaging only? [05:26] if so, your first question is misleading, unclear, and serves to undermine our efforts to guide you [05:29] Let us wrap it up in a nutshell. Say you want to package ArgoUML. Follow the Ubuntu Packaging and Debian New Maintainers' Guides. If you'd like to be able to upload your package(s) to Ubuntu, you'll need to 1) become an Ubuntu member; 2) become an MOTU. [05:29] let me start again, I'm looking into how to be MOTU hopeful...the UbuntuDevelopers link is embedded in a paragraph about how you want to go from MOTU hopeful to MOTU. [05:29] right, so you'll want to read carefully what I just typed. [05:30] Here's what I recommend you do: [05:30] I understand, but telling me to read the topic doesn't lead me read UbuntuDevelopers, thats all I was saying. Didn't mean to get defensive or anything. [05:32] 1) Read the Ubuntu Packaging and Debian New Maintainers' Guides; 2) Work with an MOTU mentor to get up to speed with REVU and general MOTU processes; 3) apply for Ubuntu membership after sustained involvement; 4) continue working with MOTU [as MOTU hopeful] ; 5) after sustained involvement in Ubuntu universe, apply for MOTU [05:32] but UbuntuDevelopers is what I was looking for [05:33] *cough* [05:33] I really don't see how that _isn't_ followed from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [05:34] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers [05:34] (or) [05:34] one link to rule them all! [05:34] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers [05:35] the first sentence iin Recruitment is You have been a MOTU Hopeful for a while now [05:35] well, sure, I pasted https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment _hoping_ that you had, in fact, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [05:35] don't worry about that too much [05:36] I'm sorry that I assumed people actually read the topic. [05:36] crimsun: want me to take this one, you seem busy? :-) [05:36] sure, take it all, fiic. [05:37] LaserJock: did you break my system with today/tonights updates? [05:37] ;p [05:38] boredandblogging: don't worry about the MOTU Hopeful term [05:38] boredandblogging: it applies to anybody who is not an MOTU but wants to do motu work === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] boredandblogging: does that make sense? [05:42] yes, in that case Recruitment makes perfectly good sense :-) === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blimpdude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand [n=evand@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] wb ajmitch :) [05:59] OK, so what are the tricks to this new xorg 7.2? [06:00] magic incantations? [06:00] I need to disable my synaptics touchpad automagically when my external is connected. how do I go about that one now seeing we don't have a xorg.conf to work with? [06:00] xorg 7.2 scrapped xorg.conf finally? [06:00] nixternal: Add an xorg.conf. It still uses it. [06:00] RAOF: well it didn't use mine [06:00] it made me use tty1-6 :) [06:00] :) [06:11] woohoo, it works. just have to remove the composite from xorg.conf [06:25] nixternal: fglrx? [06:25] no no [06:25] Intel [06:25] it still runs Beryl though, but really nasty [06:25] oh [06:26] hmm Intels should do fine when composite is on [06:26] oh, when I had composite enabled it rocked [06:26] but with xorg 7.2 when I enable composite, x-windows won't start [06:26] hmm [06:27] unless they have it enabled by default [06:27] ick Xgl is leaking on me. [06:27] with the newest xserver-xorg-core composite is on by default [06:27] ya I am going to hold off on the composite stuff anyways [06:27] quite useless actually [06:27] ahh, that is why [06:27] I like scale. [06:27] RAOF: +1 [06:27] It's non-useless :) [06:27] me too, that is my favorite [06:27] yeah I like berl/compiz usability features. [06:27] scale [06:27] zoom [06:27] negative, too [06:27] (death to bright neon colored websites!) [06:28] transparency has also been really helpful for me [06:28] The switcher's not bad. Particularly now that it has an application-window switcher. At least on my box :) [06:28] the ring-switcher is great [06:28] it helps see how many more tabs you need to hit to get to your window [06:28] and my classes distribute most of the reading material via PDF's [06:28] I'd like to save paper... [06:28] but not kill my eyes [06:29] inverting the colors is a lifesaver. [06:29] I'd quite like to see the ring-switcher. === RAOF uses compiz [06:29] RAOF: the ring switcher is awesome... [06:29] I hope they port it to compiz soon [06:29] Maybe I will. I've looked at the code, and it seems fairly easy to port, at least :) [06:31] :) [06:33] jdong: the ring switcher? === nixternal starts up beryl to see [06:33] nixternal: winkey+tab [06:33] it's a switcher where windows are oriented in a ring [06:33] rather than in a filmstrip line. [06:34] oh well, beryl won't even start up now [06:34] No Composite for you? [06:34] poor nixternal ..... [06:34] fully dist-upgraded? [06:35] need the new xserver-xorg-core appearing like 5hrs ago. === RAOF looks forward to going home and dist-upgrading so he can hack on compiz a bit === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.192.53] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] nixternal: composite has been enabled by default since edgy. === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F711B6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] you may have exposed a bug in 019_ubuntu_enable_composite.diff, though [07:02] good morning [07:03] hi [07:05] hey daniel(s) [07:06] hiya andrew, hi daniel [07:09] dholbach, good morning ! [07:09] hiya cypher1 [07:11] dholbach, have you used activkey ? [07:13] no, not at all [07:13] what is it? [07:13] dholbach, its a hardware for authentication [07:14] dholbach, like smartcards === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] no, I don't have that kind of hardware - sorry [07:14] nixternal: did you use my experimental packages? [07:15] dholbach, ok no problem.. i am struggling to get it work under ubuntu :( === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] Hello [07:27] did anyone manage to package nspluginwrapper ? [07:27] I see that there is a package in the Debian queue [07:31] I got it working [07:31] I had a line under my graphics card that shouldn't have been there [07:32] although for me 7.2 is a downgrade over 7.1 w/ Beryl [07:32] scrolling is garbage === Kagou [n=Kagou@88-139-243-202.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] hi [07:42] tepsipakki: which experimental package are you referring to? === jwhitlar1 [n=jwhitlar@72-254-192-46.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwhitlar1 [n=jwhitlar@72-254-192-46.client.stsn.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] nixternal: if you don't know about them, you haven't used them ;) [08:13] nixternal: do you have the new xorg-server which was uploaded yesterday? [08:29] yeah, I had to whip out xorg.conf to get X working after the updates today === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] LaserJock: whip out? [08:32] wipe [08:32] mv it aside [08:33] attach them to a bugreport ;) [08:33] why? [08:33] is it a bug? [08:33] could be [08:33] it's just a default xorg.conf [08:33] did you use EXA? [08:33] oh [08:33] I don't think I changed anything === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] so how could it be that, then ? [08:35] old configs should work just fine === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] it looked like it was dying on either wacom or fonts [08:36] Hobbsee! [08:36] did X fail to start and give some error? [08:37] yeah, the usual [08:37] please diff the configs [08:37] what configs? [08:37] duh, the old vs new [08:37] there is no new [08:38] ah, so you are using it _without_ a config? === Rohinton [n=chatzill@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] that's what I would gess [08:38] LaserJock!!! [08:38] I just move xorg.config to xorg.conf.bak and restarted gdm and it worked [08:41] ok [08:41] is that not normal? [08:41] I guess it *should* work with existing xorg.conf files [08:41] running without a config is supported with the new server === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] that's what I assumed it wanted, that's why I mv'd my existing one [08:42] but your old one should work [08:42] hmm, so that's 2 tonight that didn't work [08:43] someone else had problems as well? [08:44] the wacom errors (~"missing device") are harmless [08:44] yeah, nixternal was having problems [08:44] but if there's something wrong with the fontpaths, it fails [08:44] oh, of course === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] synaptics touchpad and composite were his issues I think [08:45] tepsipakki: I think it was the fontspaths perhaps [08:46] LaserJock: do you have the latest xorg installed? (the metapackage) [08:46] it should create a link from the old path to the new one.. === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] tepsipakki: I have no idea, it's just the latest dist-upgrade in Feisty [08:48] hmm, maybe we need to make the fontpath more robust [08:48] not play with symlinks [08:49] but give the server proper config options === slytherin [n=root@203.199.147.101] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-7.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] Can anyone tell me if https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-February/000249.html affects REVU uploads? I mean I will not be able to sign a package for REVU upload since I don't have ubuntu.com address. Am I right? [08:57] slytherin: yes, you have to put Ubuntu MOTU Developers in the maintainer field and yourself in the XSBC-Original-Maintainer field [08:58] lionel: Ok. I will try tonight. [09:02] LaserJock: please file a bug on xorg and attach your non-working xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log [09:05] tepsipakki: xorg or xorg-server? [09:05] hum, the latter === hoora_217166132 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-5d2ecf24467b9bce] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@72-254-147-199.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slytherin [n=root@203.199.147.101] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:27] tepsipakki: bug #88311 [09:27] Malone bug 88311 in xorg-server "upgrade to 1.2.0-3ubuntu1 killed X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88311 [09:28] LaserJock: thanks [09:29] np [09:29] just as I suspected.. [09:29] for some reason there is no FontPath entry for /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc [09:29] which has been there at least since dapper [09:30] and I just noticed a dupe ;) [09:30] buxy: ping [09:30] Lutin: pong [09:30] buxy: may I pm ? [09:30] if you want [09:31] ok, thanks [09:32] tepsipakki: this was a fresh Edgy install dist-upgraded to Feisty === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] hmm feisty borked today? I don't have X right now :/ [09:40] heh [09:40] zakame: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/88254 ? [09:40] Malone bug 88254 in xorg "xserver fails to start - missing FontPath in xorg.xonf" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:41] check l-r-m or xorg.conf ^^ [09:41] tepsipakki: bingo [09:41] hmm is ph.archive.ubuntu.com down? appears so in ping [09:41] zakame: what does 'ls -ld /usr/share/X11/fonts' show? [09:42] hmm, /usr/share/X11/fonts [09:42] you mean ls -lR? [09:42] so its there? [09:43] if I do `ls -lR $font_dir` I just get encodings and scale files [09:43] there are no font files installed [09:43] that should be a symlink [09:43] to? [09:43] to /usr/share/fonts/X11 [09:44] oh, there we go [09:44] hehe, I've managed to get KDE to look like Ubuntu, how naughty of me :-) [09:44] xserver-xorg installs that, but if there is a directory already it fails [09:44] so we need to find a cure [09:45] hmm so I just delete the existing directory and do apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg? [09:45] that should work [09:45] or would just a plain rmdir/symlink to real loc would do? [09:45] that too ;) [09:47] heh [09:47] thanks tepsipakki, brb :D === herzi [n=herzi@p548FEB6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thelsdj [n=thelsdj@ip24-251-207-135.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] How many ACKs do we need on UVFe's? I forget. [09:57] 3 I think [09:57] 2 [09:57] 1 [09:57] blast off! [09:57] BOOM === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] w [10:01] Well that didn't help much. :-) [10:01] back [10:01] tepsipakki: thanks for the heads-up! [10:02] now it's the ipw3945 on 2.6.20-9 that's the problem :/ [10:02] zakame: so it worked? === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-b2fb7e0fe54058c3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] yeah [10:03] zakame: what's the problem with ipw3945? [10:03] 'lo! [10:04] Hobbsee: no ipw3945, doesn't seem configured per iwconfig [10:05] hrm. [10:05] zakame: oh, got l-r-m installed? [10:05] and updated? [10:05] oh, here it comes now [10:06] exactly, there's no l-r-m-2.6.20-9-generic yet [10:06] and ph.archive seems to be down :/ [10:06] ah yep, it's here now... [10:06] pitti put it threw NEW an hour ago? [10:08] oh, now its back up [10:10] tepsipakki: what was the bug number again? #88254? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-025-217.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] zakame: yep === Hobbsee contemplates a reboot. === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] done :) === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-101-187.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === boredandblogging [n=asdfasdf@c-24-98-177-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_217166132 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-b38d31b340ef8a21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@p548FEB6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@29.182.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen-afk [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@219.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-7.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] Hobbsee: I've managed a whole evening in KDE without a random shutdown/hibernation or freeze :-) [10:42] LaserJock: yay! [10:43] and now that I turned it brown it even looks OK ;-) [10:44] haha [10:44] I grabbed the Ubuntu chocolate wallpaper [10:44] and some Ubuntu KDE color scheme off of kde-look [10:44] and used the Human icons [10:44] and it sort of works [10:45] hehe [10:45] sad :P [10:46] I know [10:47] I mostly did it because my wife is used to Gnome and I'm going to try to set KDE as the default for a while [10:47] so if the desktop has the same colors and icons she won't really mind [10:48] ahhh [10:51] tepsipakki: so do I need to have a /usr/share/X11/fonts link? [10:51] LaserJock: yes [10:51] with your old config [10:51] I've got one machine that had it as a directory and one that doesn't have it at all [10:51] none of my machines have it as a directory :/ [10:52] the machines should be basically identical [10:52] I installed edgy at the same time [10:52] and I upgraded to Feisty at roughly the same time (within a few weeks anyway) === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-0394dd4ed52d3b52] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@151.82.5.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === palski [n=palski@193.64.31.143] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] moin all === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] can someone point me to the rules of using a cvs checkout i believe in this: [11:35] i don't want to use tarballs i want to use cvs checkouts and dependencies need to be pointed out before compiling when run the .autogen.sh or .configure.sh script not when you are installing and get errors [11:36] ...why not use a tarball? [11:37] i em testing and helping debuggin [11:37] using a cvs has always been my methot [11:38] tuxcrafter: are you looking to get these into the ubuntu archive at all? [11:38] yes [11:39] Hobbsee: what is the normal whay of getting the source and helping a testing a program? [11:39] the cvs or a tarball [11:40] tarball [11:40] well, for getting it into the archives [11:40] and why is that [11:40] have you seen the packaging guide? [11:40] !packagingguide [11:40] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [11:40] btw, you wont get it into feisty now. [11:41] Hobbsee: it is for over 2 or 3 releasse [11:41] it needs to mature first [11:41] right [11:43] Hobbsee: oke so its better to use the source tarball instead of the cvs [11:43] for testing === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spike [n=spike@unaffiliated/spike] has left #ubuntu-motu ["bbl"] === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marsmensch_ [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-117-030.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mafix [n=marfix@213.144.142.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] tepsipakki: any chance of fixing https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/40021 as well? [12:27] Malone bug 40021 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Synaptics side scroll is disable by default on Dell Inspiron6400" [Medium,Needs info] === Hobbsee can provide a logfile, if needed === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] tepsipakki: seems my scrollbar didnt wnat to work without an xorg.conf file. weird. === caravena [n=caravena@103-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand_ [n=evand@acmns.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] Hobbsee: that bug seems easy [01:21] tepsipakki: indeed. [01:35] Hobbsee: thank you for your help, i will speak with you later for help with maintaining a new package [01:35] ok === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F75840.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberjackal [n=cyberjac@pool-70-109-59-132.clppva.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["WeeChat] === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === swarog [n=core@65.19.150.202] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] hellow === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-129-227.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-7.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=atm@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mafix [n=marfix@213.144.142.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@bohr.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gismo_ [n=stef@178.246.6.195.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] hello all [03:28] I have a problem with vmware-player-kernel-modules under Dapper [03:28] I submited a bug last week but I don't understand what's the problem [03:28] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15/+bug/86848 [03:28] Malone bug 86848 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-28 still missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [03:29] yes [03:29] why it's still unconfirmed ? Is someone able to run vmware player on Dapper under 2.6.15-28 ? [03:30] dev probably hasnt gotten to it yet besides this channel isnt for support [03:31] oups sorry === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] Heya gang [03:37] Yesterday, bddebian uploaded gnusim8085 on to revu. But I am unable to see it listed. Any reasons? [03:39] gismo_: I have just confirmed the bug. Try to speak with kernel team on #ubuntu-kernel for that [03:40] ok thanks ! [03:41] tuxmaniac: he uploaded it to the archive, not revu [03:41] Adri2000, aah ok. thanks [03:41] :-) [03:44] root@akira:~# uname -m [03:44] mips [03:44] bwhahahaha [03:44] heya all === mafix [n=marfix@213.144.142.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] imbrandon: er...why? [03:46] zul, just because ( its my router ) [03:46] hi imbrandon === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] with openwrt [03:46] ello Adri2000 [03:46] imbrandon: what's the next build machine on the list? :) [03:46] imbrandon: ah ok i guess thats acceptable then :) [03:48] Adri2000, definately not that mips , its only 200mhx and 16mb ram [03:48] ;) [03:48] hehe [03:49] are there any plans to get rid of the use of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates and replace it with something else? Or can I still point people here if they want some program that isn't packaged? === g0su [n=moxilo@141.30.212.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fiXXXerMet [n=kjohnson@mail.fixertec.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] Hey everyone. #ubuntu sent me here. I was asking them how to request a package to be made for/added to ubuntu. [03:50] oh here he is :) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] jrib, yes point them there is fine [03:50] err yea [03:50] lol [03:50] fiXXXerMet: you can request at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] Heya gang [03:54] thank you jrib [03:55] imbrandon: thanks. some motu's were telling me that it might be getting replaced and that was several weeks ago, so I wanted to make sure === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] hi bddebian [03:56] Hello jrib === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] Do I need to edit the wiki, or is there a submit page? [03:57] fiXXXerMet: you need to edit the wiki [03:57] ok [03:59] heya bddebian [04:00] Hi imbrandon === jrib wonders why a windows application is on the candidates list (SmartBlend) === Shadowriver [n=g@h82-143-161-179-static.e-wro.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Shadowriver [n=g@h82-143-161-179-static.e-wro.net.pl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac is unable to find it in archives also gnusim8085 :-( [04:11] tuxmaniac: In NEW? [04:12] Thanks everyone - I added the reques tot the list. [04:12] How do I monitor the progress of this - keep checking the page? [04:16] bddebian, unable to find :-( === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] It shows on LP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/gnusim8085/1.3-0ubuntu1 === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] ouch [04:30] compiz is now in -desktop? That utterly broke. [04:31] wha? === cassidy [n=cassidy@7.89-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] ubuntu-meta (1.36) feisty; urgency=low -> * Added desktop-effects ... -> apt-cache show desktop-effects |grep ^Dep |grep compiz >/dev/null ; echo $? -> 0 [04:33] wonderfull [04:33] I restarted gdm, logged in, and was greeted with the black screen of death [04:33] i thought that was decided against [04:33] ended up mving ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf* [04:33] didnt sab post about that [04:34] I don't think it's enabled by default [04:34] I can't tell, though, because something definitely went wonky [04:34] i guess i'll know on reboot i just updates [04:34] updated* === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] and gnome is bugging me to reboot, but i was trying to finish my openwrt upgrade first [04:36] I'm happy that I can properly log out now from gnome-session, though. === jekil [n=alessand@host101-157-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43]