gnomefreakthat looks more like a code issue rather than a packaging issue12:29
asacryanh: theresab do you have any questions atm? I would go away for the rest of the night :)12:29
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dfarningtheresab: ryanh asac is the lead developer for mozillateam12:29
dfarningit is falling on his shoulders to figure out how to implement the schemes I am working on:)12:30
ryanhasac, nice too meet you12:31
LinspireBriantheresa is an irc newb12:31
LinspireBriangotta bear with her12:31
tonyyarussoLinspireBrian: Did that happen in both the most recent code and the 0.7.7 release from kompozer.net for you?12:31
AlexLatchfordUh, had a power cut today and totally screwed my primary filesystem12:31
AlexLatchfordgood job I updated to Feisty with a clean install yesterday then :)12:31
LinspireBriantonyyarusso, I though 0.7.7 was the most recent?12:31
tonyyarussoLinspireBrian: I meant the one you just sent me, with branding.12:32
tonyyarussoShouldn't be any code difference, but who knows.12:32
LinspireBrianahh, yes, same thing when I tried to compile it vanilla12:32
asacryanh: if you want anything, just ping me. I am usually online, though based in europe so take care for timezone :)12:32
tonyyarussoLinspireBrian: Using which makefile?12:33
LinspireBrianI just copied .mozconfig.linux over to .mozconfig and did a configure/make12:33
tonyyarussoDid you uncomment the appropriate sections for Debian/Linspire?12:34
LinspireBrianyes indeed12:34
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tonyyarussohuh, all right then.12:34
Majostgonna register a new nick12:34
gnomefreakok guys meeting on the 6th at 18:00 or 23:00 UTC better?12:34
LinspireBrianyou can see if I fscked up in the tarball, its all ther ejust as I tried to build it12:34
tonyyarussoWill let you know.12:35
gnomefreak20:00 is taken already12:35
dfarninggnomefreak: either is good with me12:35
gnomefreakasac: 18:00 for you?12:35
tonyyarusso18:00 is probably better for me, but it could go either way12:35
asacwhat 1800 ? UTC?12:36
dfarningmaybe 18:00 for asac he is on utc +112:36
asacthat would be a charm :)12:36
gnomefreakthe meeting ont he 6th12:36
gnomefreaksetting it12:36
gnomefreakits being put on fridge :)12:36
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tonyyarussoLinspireBrian: Oh, btw - it would be nice if I didn't have to do packaging tricks to make chrome, icons, and res go to /usr/share rather than /usr/lib so lintian doesn't complain at me about there being images in an architecture-dependent directory.12:37
dfarningfor the linspire folks meeting info is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings12:38
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:gnomefreak] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Web-Home is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | totem anti-crash preview is at: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Totem/ | Next meeting will be on March 6th 2007 at 18:00UTC | Meeting agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings
LinspireBrianJust pass it on to me and I'll wrapup that part then.  I usually just smack lintian for such absurdities12:38
asacgnomefreak: you can remove totem packages12:38
gnomefreakits set12:38
asacits released to feisty12:38
gnomefreakok ill get there12:38
dfarningjoin us or have your mozilla folks stop by12:38
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:gnomefreak] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Web-Home is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Next meeting will be on March 6th 2007 at 18:00UTC | Meeting agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings
asacgnomefreak: will you be around tomorrow for some time, so we can test if patch fixes filepicker crash?12:41
gnomefreakyep ill be around12:41
gnomefreakif all goes well ill be here at around 5:00 EST12:42
asacwhats EST in UTC units?12:42
asac-5 ?12:42
gnomefreak10 am UTC12:42
asacthats pretty early :)12:42
asaci won't have bits by then i guess ;)12:43
gnomefreakanytime :)12:43
gnomefreaki will be checking email and slacking with coffee in hand at that time12:43
dfarningcc meeting are not very interesting when you are not cheering on one of you teammates;)12:54
gnomefreakdfarning: nope not really sometimes theres something there that is of interest but not oftem12:54
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gnomefreakand this is a short meeting too01:01
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Admiral_Chicagocan someone show me how to do traces02:08
gnomefreaki sent instructions to ML david said he would make a wiki for basic retracing02:09
Admiral_Chicagoi tried to follow them but I was on the road. maybe i'll take them up now02:09
Admiral_Chicagookay i call bug #8822802:10
UbugtuMalone bug 88228 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8822802:10
gnomefreaki can help tomorrow but its bed time here for most part02:10
Admiral_Chicagonight then02:10
gnomefreaksince i am working on something. is it one with a crash report like _usr_lib_firefox? or is it pieces of them on bug report?02:14
Admiral_Chicagoyep, its one of them02:15
gnomefreakthe _usr?02:15
gnomefreakheres what i do. mkdir bug88228 cd bug88228 mkdir parts. than i download the report to the bug* dir.02:16
gnomefreakin the bug directory run apport-retrace -o retrace.crash -v -d _usr_lib..... 2>&1 | tee retrace.log02:17
gnomefreakreplace .... with rest of file name02:18
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: when its done running than run apport-unpack retrace.crash parts02:18
gnomefreakthan find the stacktrace and rest in parts :)02:18
Admiral_Chicagoi'll try that.02:19
Admiral_Chicagoi just realized i had to study02:19
Admiral_Chicagohave to write some code for tomorrows meeting as well02:19
gnomefreakoh first make sure you are running everything the user is and have dbg packages and martins repo enabled02:19
Admiral_Chicagookay. hmm, this may be a challenge...02:20
Admiral_Chicagomostly because i hate totem.02:20
gnomefreakchroot is your freind02:20
Admiral_Chicagothat is also true02:24
Admiral_Chicagome and him go back. okay time to code02:24
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Admiral_Chicagothe -dbg package is massive...i never realized how big it was06:42
Admiral_Chicagoit also doesn't help that I have the worse network in the world06:44
Admiral_Chicagorunning at 23.4 Kb/s ATM06:44
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asacnetspillers welcome :)11:43
asacnetsplitters ;)11:43
gnomefreakim here. i will be working on retraces unless you have anything for me12:35
asacIU crashed!!!12:42
asacdragging some text on register.co.uk12:42
asacprobably gtk_style_realize with nsAppShell::Run as base ;)12:42
gnomefreaki just crashed too ;)12:44
asacon draggin?12:44
gnomefreaknope totem12:44
asacah ok.12:44
asacwhat totem?12:44
gnomefreaki think its the same as yesterday12:44
asacgtk_* still?12:44
asacshould be12:44
asacother totem bugs should be gone12:44
gnomefreakfx crashed after closing totem12:44
UbugtuMalone bug 71315 in firefox "Crash with totem when opening an MPG link" [High,Needs info] 12:45
asacis something new12:46
gnomefreakusing the first example (read stack please it looks like destroystream12:46
gnomefreak#4  _destroystream (npp=0xa569764, pstream=0x0, reason=0) at ns4xPlugin.cpp:129712:46
gnomefreakthis might be the same as the one i did yesterday12:47
asacyesterday was a filepicker crash when closing plugin tab before12:47
asacthe stack looked quite different12:47
gnomefreakim checing mine12:49
asacanyway, maybe this one is a followup bug of destructor problem?12:49
asaci think it should be12:49
gnomefreakgive me a few to retrace.12:49
asacor likely, because when report was send there where still those problems in totem12:49
gnomefreaki will be attaching my stack to this bug report i think if it turns up the same. and im gonna file a new report for mike since his stack is way differnet12:50
asacmikes report is worthless12:51
asacno info in stack12:51
asacplease ensure that your stack is the same before attaching it12:51
gnomefreakof course12:51
gnomefreakwhat do i do with mikes than?12:51
asacjust forget about ... leave comment that it does not provide the "details we need to process"12:53
gnomefreakWARNING: report file does not have Package attribute; adding it now, but cannot verify version12:53
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... probably wrong version12:54
gnomefreakits mine12:55
gnomefreakit cant be :(12:55
gnomefreakit continues so lets see what i get from it12:56
asacif output is good then fine12:57
asacthought you referred to "mikes"12:57
gnomefreakno mikes i left comment for12:58
gnomefreakmine i think i know why it did that12:58
asacok ... can you still reproduce the crasher with totem tab close/reopen/save link as... ?12:58
gnomefreakthere was update to firefox lastnight (i guess ubuntus version12:58
gnomefreakasac: tell you in a minute becasue the steps are the same for this bug almost12:59
gnomefreakasac: i got it from your repo than ubuntu released same versiona nd it updated it again :)12:59
asacinteresting ... thought I had choosen the same version ... but maybe official repo wins01:00
gnomefreakit is exact same version01:01
gnomefreaki found that strange01:01
asacyeah ... probably official repo really has higher prio01:02
asacgood to know :)01:02
asacalready found guilty of not having choosen the proper version for preview rlease01:02
asacbut now things are fine :)01:02
gnomefreakbrb going to smoke while this thing retraces.01:03
asacis this bug also with save link as ...01:03
asacwill go lunch in 30 minutes01:03
gnomefreakmore i think of it this might be the filepicker bug since i closed totem than it crashed or atleast a gtk one01:07
gnomefreakyou will be happy to know its not the filepicker one but it is a gtk one01:08
gnomefreakwill put my stack somewhere you can read the better :)01:10
gnomefreakasac: heres my stack. Have you seen this one before if so where :) http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/37423101:12
gnomefreakno mention of filepicker at all that i see01:13
asaccan you reproduce?01:14
asacthats our second variant01:14
asac(out of three)01:14
gnomefreakyeah thats my crash01:14
asacbut can you reproduce as you wish?01:14
asacwait a sec01:14
gnomefreakim fairly sure i can. will try again01:14
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Needs info] 01:15
asaccan you update description with a testcase?01:15
asacthen this will be our master bug for all those whose restyles have have no real origin in mozilla code01:16
gnomefreakhmmmmm now its not letting watch the video at all01:16
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Needs info] 01:19
gnomefreakmother fu**er01:20
gnomefreakff crashed again :(01:20
gnomefreakok retracing this one as well and see if its the same.01:24
gnomefreakshould we name 71182? so we can find it easily?01:33
gnomefreaklike maybe "Master @nsAppShell::Run"?01:34
gnomefreakits the same crash. so yes i can reproduce any time i feel like it even if totem doesnt play the file.01:50
asacgnomefreak: add MASTER to bug title should be enough for now02:01
asacgnomefreak: we don't know yet if that is same issues as filepicker and so on ...02:01
asacgnomefreak: good ... if you can reproduce both issues, i will bring up patches version ... lets see if it fixes both or none :)02:02
asaclunch now02:02
gnomefreakasac: bug 88097 looks like dupe of bug 71182 but i will let you decide. let me know if im right this way i dont have to ping you on these dupes.02:37
UbugtuMalone bug 88097 in firefox "Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8809702:37
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7118202:37
asacyeah its dupe02:47
gnomefreakyay :)02:48
asacyou can see this by nsAppShell::Run being the top most origin02:48
asacyou mark?02:48
gnomefreakim guessing we are leaving the firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run]  alone because of the dragging part?03:02
asacwe should add use-cases that make it appear to master report:03:08
asacthis is known to happen:03:08
asac  + on dragging03:08
asac  + on closing tab with movie player in it03:08
asacor somthing03:08
asacwe should extend that list in the master bug and remove the "on dragging" from master bug title03:09
asachave you posted a testcase for that issue already to master bug?`03:10
gnomefreakthe dragging?03:10
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asacno ... you coudl reproduce:03:11
asacfilepicker crash03:11
asac+ nsAppShell::Run crash03:11
gnomefreakyes and yes both with totem03:11
asacor can't you redo latter?03:11
asacbut still with different traces?03:11
asacplease add testcase for the "without filepicker" to nsAppShell::Run master bug03:12
gnomefreaki can repro both but only with video files03:12
asacthat does not matter as long as you get different traces03:12
asacdon't care for dragging or whatever03:13
asacwe need testcase for the "non filepicker" crash03:13
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Needs info] 03:14
asacso your in beta now?03:14
gnomefreakcheck that. i had added testcase earlier just added without filepicker03:14
gnomefreakyep :)03:14
gnomefreakwe need master bug for with filepicker and testcase for that if we dont already have one.03:15
asacwe have03:16
asachowever bug 7118203:16
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7118203:16
asachas too different traces03:16
asacfirst has nsAppShell::Create03:16
asacsecond has nsAppShell::Run03:16
asacas base03:16
asacwait a sec03:18
asacbug 4500803:19
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500803:19
asacis filepucker master03:19
asacbug 7457603:20
gnomefreakwe have good testcase there too03:20
UbugtuMalone bug 74576 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7457603:20
asacis the third variant03:20
asacyes thats why i made it master03:20
asacactually thats the testcase you tested yesterday03:20
asaci copied it from upstream bug03:20
gnomefreakok so any [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal]  can be marked as dupe of that one03:20
gnomefreakyeah i saw03:20
asacyeah ... already did for some03:20
asacanyway ... we need a testcase for that stack too03:21
asacfurther there is now a new stack03:21
asacin our current Run master bug03:21
asaccan we move that to a new master bug?03:21
gnomefreakyes i dont see why not as long as its :create not :run03:22
asac.... we should do. ok03:22
asacnow the next policy :)03:22
gnomefreakand use same testcase for :crreate as you did for :run03:22
asacmaster bugs are moved to confirmed if they have testcase :)03:22
asacand only master crashers are moved there03:22
asaceverything else will wait at mt-confirm ... till duplicate or becomes a master crash :)03:23
asacwill you move the Create trace to new bug and subscriber reporter?03:24
gnomefreakwhat to use for testcase? same as run?03:24
asacno ... it has no testcase yet03:24
asacunless you can reproduce03:24
gnomefreakwhere is the create one?03:25
asacbug 7118203:25
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7118203:25
asacthe first stack03:25
gnomefreakill looka nd file it03:25
asaci still hope that all are the same ... and will be fixed by patch i will later today pull in03:26
asacbut we should keep them sorted in case its not fixed03:26
gnomefreakok i seee the part in stack so i will file bug for him.03:26
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed] 03:26
asacthats the comment03:26
asacwhere create stack is03:26
UbugtuMalone bug 88368 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Create] " [High,Needs info] 03:33
asaci added needtestcase tag03:33
gnomefreaki can go through [@gtk_style_realize]  bugs and mark as dupes if dupes of the other master bugs. (might leave the create one alone until we have testcase for it03:34
gnomefreakyou have patch to worry about :)03:35
asaci cannot reproduce bug 7118203:35
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7118203:35
gnomefreaki did03:35
asacbut if you say that description lets you reproduce easily, then i move that to confirmed03:35
gnomefreaki was able to reproduce run, filepicker03:35
asacsame for filepicker03:35
asacthe question is if you can repeat by instructions03:35
gnomefreakthey both do for me atleast03:35
asacfilepicker appears to be safe03:36
asacif run is safe too its enough if for you :)03:36
gnomefreakand i wrote up run right after i crashed it 2 times using that testcase03:36
asacmaybe try a third time :)03:36
gnomefreakoh yeah lets keep crashing gnomefreak's fx ;03:37
gnomefreakyeah i will03:37
asacyeah :)03:37
asacat least you have a good way to test apport hooks in future then :)03:37
gnomefreaklet me get finished with the bs retraces im running03:37
asacok replaced mt-confirm by eval confirmed tag :)03:40
asacsadly, i only see 40+ bugs with gtk_style_realize03:41
asacwehave 450 crash bugs03:41
asacthere should be another really big class of crashes in there03:41
asacmaybe we have 100 with gtk_style_realize03:41
asacbut what about the 300 others?03:41
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gnomefreakwe need someone to start at oldest bug work way to newest triaging them :(03:45
asacyesterday i made one lp page ... starting with newestest03:45
gnomefreakoh this is new03:45
gnomefreakwhen i finish attaching stack ill give you link. i have a feeling ive seen something like this before a few times03:46
asacgood :)03:48
asacif we only knew howto setup simple bughelper locally03:48
asacto find all with that trace03:48
UbugtuMalone bug 87108 in firefox "firefox crashed while i had netbeans open" [Undecided,Needs info] 03:48
asacfunny title03:48
asacwhile i had netbeans open :)03:48
asacwhat a coincident ;)03:48
gnomefreaki didnt think people still used it03:48
asaclike ... while i pissed03:48
asachehe ...  i wouldn't use it either03:48
asacif java ... go eclipse03:49
gnomefreakok crashed again with RUN. need to restart for new kernel hopfully ill brb03:50
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gnomefreakoh what the fuck is wrong with people.;04:00
gnomefreakasac: are you watching #ubuntu-bugs?04:14
asacgnomefreak: hehe ... no :)04:15
asacgnomefreak: thats major flood in there04:15
gnomefreakasac: thank you im still reverting his bugs.04:22
gnomefreakasac: what do you want to do with https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/7654304:22
UbugtuMalone bug 76543 in firefox "Dapper Firefox crash on PPC "Grape" iMac" [Medium,Unconfirmed] 04:22
gnomefreaknvm i think i get that one. some passwordmanger crash?04:23
asacok ... i told him to look at bug states for future mozilla triage04:24
asaclet me know if there are problems with anyone else ;)04:24
gnomefreakthere must be 100 of them :(04:24
gnomefreakhavent even looked at the other problem persons yet04:25
asacgnomefreak: there are a hundred of them?04:25
asaci remember that line04:25
gnomefreakthere are a bunth of them.04:25
asaci just touched it yesterday when preparing security update04:25
gnomefreak100 of chris' reverts04:26
gnomefreakcheck your email :)04:26
asaci don't read bugmail atm ... its just distracting04:26
asaci use tag search et al :)04:26
asacbut should do in future :)04:26
asachave to catch up04:27
asac1000 mails behind present04:27
asaci guess04:27
asacwe have more passwordmanager crashes?04:27
gnomefreakthat mac one is what i saw recently04:29
gnomefreaki have seen them before but its been a while04:29
gnomefreaki have a whole lot more retraces that need to be done too after i finish reverting his emails04:29
asacmaybe just a coincident ... maybe its fixed in latest upload04:30
asaci had to resolve some conflicts because moz code base changed ... i guess they fixed it04:30
asacits quite a coincident to visit a line of code in 300 MB source code and then see that line in a backtrace the next day :)04:31
asacthanks for this ... i guess I will not win the lottery anymore ... chance is now wasted :-D04:31
asacor maybe the other way around? Maybe I should buy ticket ... to ride this strain :)04:35
=== gnomefreak never wins anymore :(
asacgnomefreak: maybe its not me who should buy, but you then :) ?04:39
gnomefreakMichael Broadbent  << hes all yours04:39
gnomefreakhes another one that is rejecting bugs for no reason :(04:40
asacgive me one or two bugs please04:41
asache closed04:41
gnomefreakhold on ill check04:41
gnomefreakhttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/81068  i just reverted04:41
asacdon't need nick ... just bugs should be enough to rant on :)04:41
UbugtuMalone bug 81068 in firefox "FireFox crashes" [High,Needs info] 04:41
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UbugtuMalone bug 81046 in firefox "firefox crashed by clicking play on rythmbox" [Medium,Rejected] 04:42
UbugtuMalone bug 80533 in firefox "Firefox crashed while downloading flashplayer from adobe site" [Medium,Rejected] 04:42
gnomefreakwhile ranting can you mark them as retrace needed please04:43
gnomefreakim going for moke this is getting to me today04:43
gnomefreakif and when i get done cleaning up email i will try to get the retraces done that i assigned myself before tomorrow night04:47
asachmmm bug 81046 was already tagge for retrace ... but not displayed04:50
UbugtuMalone bug 81046 in firefox "firefox crashed by clicking play on rythmbox" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8104604:50
asacupdating info helped though04:50
gnomefreakis that one i just changed?04:52
gnomefreaknot even reading titles at this point04:52
asacpreviously rejected by michael04:52
gnomefreakk that might be why its not showing as i am just getting to them again04:53
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gnomefreakok i think i got them all. I might have missed tagging a few (maybe just the ones i assigned myself (can be fixed)05:03
gnomefreakI DONT WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN :(05:03
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gnomefreakpeople rejecting bugs when they shouldnt. i just spent damn near an hour cleaning them up but i think i forgot to tag a few05:07
=== gnomefreak will look at some of my retraces, If you see ones that need report or need retrace please tag as needed
gnomefreakasac: in between retraces whne i take a break from them i will try to get as much of the gtk ones marked as i can05:09
AlexLatchfordwill do05:11
asacgnomefreak: if people mess up, use something i posted to discourage them ... we don't want to make them stop doing bug triage for firefox ... but encourage to do it right.05:14
asacgnomefreak: read: give them a chance to learn05:14
gnomefreaki gave him links to read :)05:15
asacyeah ... i think posting a nice test when resolve reject helps05:15
asacif you do multiple times than it will burn into their brain :)+05:15
asacrule: "don't close bugs to gain karma" :)05:16
gnomefreaki do this everyother day and its sickening05:17
UbugtuMalone bug 79289 in mozilla-thunderbird "drag&drop moving of message does not work" [Medium,In progress] 05:18
AlexLatchfordis this in line to be merged for Feisty?05:18
gnomefreakhaving to look after people. can you talk to head of bugs (maybe seb128 ir sfflaw and get something added to the wiki about our bugs?05:18
AlexLatchfordBecause I have seen the behaviour cropping up in Firefox also05:18
asacAlexLatchford: looking05:18
asacshould be fixed in ... and wil be fixed in tbird
gnomefreakif its fixed in
asaclook upstream report05:19
asacKeywords: fixed1.8.1.205:19
gnomefreakshould be released in next week or 2 i would hope05:19
AlexLatchfordaha okay, so its not in the repositories?05:19
asacshould be as of today/yesteraday05:20
asacwhat version do you have?05:20
asacmaybe upgrade?05:20
AlexLatchfordim still on .905:20
AlexLatchfordyeah ill take a look in a sec05:20
asacif you can reproduce and can verify that its gone, le me know05:20
asacthunderbird is not yet in archive05:20
asacjust firefox05:20
asactbird has not been released05:20
AlexLatchfordjust thought I would take a look because I saw this behaviour in Firefox Bookmarks also05:20
asacprobably end of this week - if lucky05:20
AlexLatchfordokay, will do05:20
AlexLatchfordaha okay, im on now and its fixed05:21
AlexLatchfordGood Job Guys!05:21
AlexLatchfordkeep up the good work :)05:21
AlexLatchfordcan begin rebuilding my bookmarks now :)05:21
asacreally ... good05:22
asacgnomefreak: ... added on my todo list05:22
AlexLatchfordill reassign the bug to me and test it when the update comes in05:22
asacinfo about mozilla bug policy in bugs wiki05:23
gnomefreakasac: the bug guys thing?05:23
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gnomefreakAlexLatchford: it will be changed when he builds it or me or whoever is building it but good leave name attached to it for fast pull up :)05:23
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: hi even05:23
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: is this Chris Burgan person working with us now?05:24
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AlexLatchfordgnomefreak: you want to me assign the bug to myself?05:24
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gnomefreakno i just reverted everything he did05:24
Admiral_Chicagojust got my network going again.05:24
Admiral_Chicagookay i saw his name all over my inbox05:24
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: yeah05:24
AlexLatchfordwill do05:24
asacchris burgen ... the triager we talked to a minute ago , gnomefreak ?05:24
gnomefreakasac: yes05:25
asacAdmiral_Chicago: he rejected bugs we have to reopen now :)05:25
gnomefreaksame one05:25
asacor ... better gnomefreak had to reopen :/05:25
gnomefreakso does michael whatever his name is05:25
Admiral_Chicagohmm, oka05:25
gnomefreakim sure there are more waiting for me in my email but it can wait im so sick of doing that05:25
Admiral_Chicagoi'll do that if you need me to05:26
Admiral_Chicago / want me to05:26
gnomefreakplease do05:26
AlexLatchfordis there a way we can get a list of bugs he rejected?05:26
asacmaybe search for rejected bugs05:26
gnomefreaktag them if not assigned to me05:26
AlexLatchfordill jump in too for a bit05:26
asacsorted by newest first?05:26
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: email :)05:26
AlexLatchfordwill do05:26
AlexLatchfordill check the archives :)05:26
asacmaybe we should be able to sort by "last modified"05:27
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gnomefreaki think i got most of them but some im sure i missed needreport and needretrace tags. the ones i assigned to me dont worry about ill tag and bag them05:27
asacwould be pretty important ... and to see when it was modified in result list for each bug ... together with tags :)05:27
Admiral_Chicagothe tag is mt-needretrace correct?05:28
asacdepends on the case05:29
asacbut that tag exists :)05:29
asacif that is what you asked05:29
gnomefreakeither mt-needreport or mt-needretrace05:29
Admiral_Chicagohold on.05:29
gnomefreakthe rest we can work out after the retrace is done :)05:29
asacif we have both we search for master bug ... if no such thing exist, we make it master bug and need a mt-needtestcase05:29
gnomefreakas long as crash report has a coredump with it, its retracible05:30
Admiral_Chicagothats whay i wanted05:30
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Admiral_Chicagoone more thing. can we work with crash reports with no debugging symobls?05:33
asacyes ... if coredump exists, we can retrace05:33
asacwe need -dbgsym package ... apport will complain if not found (right?)05:33
asacyou need pittis archive05:33
asacin apt05:33
asacgnomefreak: can you add the lines to wiki?05:34
asacgnomefreak: or isn't this needed?05:34
Admiral_Chicagookay, so if the coredumb exists in the crash file...how can we tell without running apport?05:34
asacif its a feisty report05:34
asacyou will have a Coredump.gz file attached05:35
asacfor edgy or other old reports05:35
asacyou can take alook at report at last line05:35
asacit should begin with Coredump: or something05:35
asacand lots of base64 encoded data in one line :)05:35
asacAdmiral_Chicago: you get what i ment?05:36
Admiral_Chicagogotcha. yes I do.05:36
gnomefreakhold on05:37
gnomefreakwhen i get caught up i will look at wiki.05:38
gnomefreakif someone has link05:38
Admiral_Chicagoto which page?05:39
gnomefreakdidnt know david made one yet05:39
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: the guide for retraces05:39
Admiral_Chicagoafaik, i don't thing there is one yet...but I may be mistaken05:39
hjmfHi all!05:41
gnomefreaki emailed david about it05:42
gnomefreakjust now05:42
hjmfquestion for you. Are you using malone email for triage05:42
gnomefreakhi hjmf05:42
hjmfif so, which is the syntax for changing the tag?05:42
gnomefreakhjmf: what do you mean?05:42
hjmfand for attaching files?05:42
gnomefreakoh no im not05:42
gnomefreakyou cant yet05:42
hjmfgnomefreak: https://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail05:42
gnomefreakyou cant attach files from email to bugs yet05:42
hjmfit's for automate a bit more the retraces05:43
gnomefreakatleast last i heard you couldnt05:43
hjmfI see, for now I'm only able to change assignee people and bug status w/o using the web interface05:43
asachjmf: mail interface is still not good imo05:44
asaclong way to go to get something like debian ... however at least there is a thing like mail interface05:45
hjmfI've just started to test a bit before for scripting my retrace stuff05:45
asachjmf: can you code javascript / dhtml ?05:45
hjmfbut little succeed as in bug #8834705:46
UbugtuMalone bug 88347 in firefox "Firefox crashed when hitting "preferences", no tabs in use" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8834705:46
hjmfasac: no, why?05:46
gnomefreakdo we support realplayer?05:46
asacthere is greasemonkey for firefox ... we can extend launchpad features on client side05:46
gnomefreakwe as in ubuntu and or our team?05:46
asaclike adding bulk answers and stuff like that05:46
tonyyarussognomefreak: I think it was in the -commercial repo for Dapper, but I don't think anyone's tried to really address it much, tmk.05:47
asacthat is a simple greasemonkey script05:47
asaci work to get something up that is good for us :)05:47
gnomefreakare we rejecting realplayer?05:47
asacif crash is in realplayer, yes05:47
asacif not ... not05:47
asacmaybe its due to general embed stuff ... you know :) ?05:48
hjmfI can do bash scripting using procmail and maybe curl with cookies for submitting answers05:48
hjmfI know sounds weird05:48
gnomefreakits in realplayer but michael assigned it to firefox after taking realplayer off05:48
asachjmf: hmmm ... i think greasemonkey is better for us :)05:48
asacin this way we can provide scripts to triagers that add features to launchpad ... and help to be in line with workflow05:48
asacetc ... but make time ... feel free to do any other innovate solution to automate things :)05:49
gnomefreakassigned back to realplayer05:49
asacs/make/may take/05:49
AlexLatchfordOh yeah, can nobody edit the States page for abit05:49
AlexLatchfordim editing it a little05:50
asacsure ... unlessy ou want to mess it up :)05:50
AlexLatchfordA bugs status should only be modified according to this definition. Usually non-team members are discouraged to change states on their own without reading this document fully, it outlines the correct procedures that are in place to triage a bug successfully.05:51
AlexLatchfordis that an okay suggestion?05:51
asacwhat is the diff?05:51
AlexLatchfordor should I keep it as only a Team member05:52
AlexLatchfordtook out only team members05:52
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asacI just want to emphasize that you don't bash triagers that don't obey, because they don't know :)05:52
asacbetter educate and be nice :) ... as always05:52
asacAlexLatchford: looks good for me though05:52
AlexLatchfordyeah there is also the line..05:52
gnomefreaki was nice the first 3 months with him05:52
asacfeel free to rephrase :)05:53
AlexLatchfordPlease keep in mind that if a user does not know about this document, try to be nice. For instance, if a MozillaTeam member recognizes that a user did wrongly confirm a bug, point him to this document and fix the state again.05:53
asacgnomefreak: sure... exceptional person need exceptional punishment :)05:53
AlexLatchfordthere are some that don't learn :)05:53
gnomefreakchris has been doing it a long time now (got tired of explaining it in bug reports05:54
asacgnomefreak: he now promissed to take care in future05:54
asacand not stop helping on firefox completely05:54
gnomefreaki hope so05:54
gnomefreakwell i see it as if i have to go back over a person on every bug than the help with them is debatible05:55
gnomefreakthem helping is devbatible05:55
asacbut in fact with bughelper we should be able to track such not well closed bugs05:56
asacbecause they still have tag set05:56
asacso ... just don't care and do a fix bug state round once in a while05:56
gnomefreaki do every week05:58
gnomefreaknot normally as much as this morning05:58
asachehe ... lets work on better bughelper summaries05:59
asacyau ... drag crash again ... still no way to reproduce06:22
gnomefreaki found a filepicker in these retraces :)06:24
gnomefreakand one i havent seen in a long time thought it was fixed already06:25
gnomefreakbug 7171206:25
UbugtuMalone bug 71712 in firefox "Random cash when trying to shuitdown FF because it was using too much cpu" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7171206:25
asacgnomefreak: i think our msater bug for gnome filepicker si the wrong one06:26
gnomefreak:( why06:26
gnomefreakis there one out there with dupes marked already?06:26
asaceverything is messed up06:28
asacthe current master is the THEME SWITCH BUG06:28
asacis upstream in there06:29
asacwhich is definitly the theme bug06:29
gnomefreakmozilla 35209606:29
asacso ... where did i get the testcase from06:29
UbugtuMozilla bug 352096 in GFX: Gtk "[FIX] Switching GNOME theme effectively hangs app" [Critical,Verified: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35209606:29
asacwait a second06:29
asacthe testcase is of course wrong too06:29
asaci will rename06:29
asacwe should work through duplicates if we wrongly associated non-dupes06:29
asacwait a sec06:29
gnomefreakthe reporter of bug 45008 is the filepicker stacktrace06:30
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500806:30
gnomefreakthat makes it good. no?06:30
gnomefreakoh no its not hes is the xuml bug that i filed for him this morning.i think. cant check apport is running06:32
asaci fix it06:36
gnomefreak45008 turned into? and what is new master for filepicker?06:37
asacbug 7201806:38
UbugtuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201806:38
gnomefreakok i see the changes to 45008.06:38
asaci recoupled bug 8197806:39
UbugtuMalone bug 81978 in firefox "[apport]  crash [@nsFilePicker::Show]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8197806:39
UbugtuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201806:39
asacwhich was the only wrongly associated bug from what i can see06:39
asacdamn still searching the mozilla bug06:40
asacwhere the testcase comes from06:41
gnomefreakbug 7457606:42
UbugtuMalone bug 74576 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7457606:42
gnomefreakah good06:42
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gnomefreakasac: this is the changing theme bug? http://librarian.launchpad.net/6559076/Stacktrace the stack looks familar to me for some reason06:48
asacok i have only a patch for theme bug ... the other which looked related to the mozilla 35987006:49
UbugtuMozilla bug 359870 in Plug-ins "crash on style reset after closing tab with xembed plugin" [Critical,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35987006:49
asacis already applied06:49
asaclets see if the theme patch makes a difference06:49
asacat least it is somehow theme related06:49
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asacsplitting all around ... any idea whats up with freenode net?07:00
gnomefreaknot a clue07:00
asacmaybe we should move your channel somewhere else :) .... its not nice if suddenly 50% of active users get parted :)07:01
tonyyarussoubuntulog is 50% of the active users?  lol07:02
gnomefreakasac: i assigned bug76302 to you07:04
gnomefreakneeds 64bit retrace07:04
gnomefreakbug 7630207:04
UbugtuMalone bug 76302 in firefox "Crash while loading page" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7630207:04
gnomefreakdont remember07:08
gnomefreakedgy i bnelieve07:08
asac(feisty2)asac@hector:/tmp$ sh ~/Desktop/multi-retrace.sh 7630207:08
asacsh -c apport-retrace -s -v -d 76302 2>&1 | tee retrace.76302.log ...report file does not contain a core dump07:08
gnomefreakits not unpacked on bug07:09
asacok edgy07:09
asactoo bad07:09
gnomefreakyou can only use that when its got the sections on bug07:09
asaci hate doing something like that manually :)07:09
gnomefreakright one for apport-retrace -o retrace.crash -v -d _file_crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.log :)07:10
gnomefreaki use arrow keys atm. but you still have to wget the file first07:11
asacasac@hector:/tmp$ apport-retrace -s -o /dev/null -d _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.76302.log07:11
asacTraceback (most recent call last):07:11
asac  File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 189, in ?07:11
asac    debug_dir = prepare_debugdir(report, options.cache_dir)07:11
asac  File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 147, in prepare_debugdir07:11
asac    needed_deps.add((pkg, dependency_versions[pkg] ))07:11
asacold apport?07:11
gnomefreakoh thats bad07:11
asacor what is this?07:11
gnomefreakasac: get feistys apport07:11
asacdo i need to force something?07:11
asacor backport?07:11
asacwait i even have repository head here07:12
asacwill try to build07:12
gnomefreakthats a known issue in edgys and martin closed my bug on it because fixed in edgy07:12
gnomefreakasac: shoudnt have to force anything.07:12
gnomefreaki enable feisty main update install apport disable feisty main07:12
gnomefreakgot tired of download 3-4 debs a week07:13
asacwhat apport version in feisty?07:16
gnomefreakgiov eme a sec07:17
asacdid you add feisty to sources.list?07:18
asacin edgy?07:18
gnomefreakim using 0.58 in edgy07:18
asac0.6 can't be installed07:18
gnomefreakits feistys version but you might not beable to get it07:18
asacis the problem07:18
gnomefreakasac: install them too from feistys repo07:18
gnomefreakthat is bughelper iirc07:19
asaci will push this then a bit :)07:22
asactill edgy chroot is ready for destruction07:22
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asacok ... test build should be available soon ... pleasea try once if your ffox crashes if you switch gnome theme ...  at least it should freeze07:27
asaci see a freeze here, but no crash ... though this might be different to x8607:34
gnomefreaki9ll test when i get home if its ready07:35
asacbtw, i remember that official version has a higher upstream version07:40
asacthats why you received upgrade07:40
asacok i unsubcribed from ubuntu-bugs ... bye bye :)07:59
asacok updates are availabel from my mt-feisty repo08:05
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asacbetter :)08:16
asacgettig longer08:16
gnomefreakmuch better08:32
gnomefreakthe topic08:33
asacthought the package ;)08:33
gnomefreakdid you upload it?08:34
asacin preview archives08:37
asac-> topic :)08:37
asacbut just i386 feisty08:38
gnomefreakok ill upload and look at these stacks than ill test that08:38
asacok ... away for a while08:39
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gnomefreakasac: your needed in #ubuntu-meeting to finish your application09:17
asacgnomefreak: oh no :) ... why doesn't anybody tell me that I am on topic?09:42
asacgnomefreak: never knew I should be there today09:42
gnomefreaki tried09:42
gnomefreakmatt said he would chase you down (mailing list i think)09:42
gnomefreakor just ping mdz :)09:42
gnomefreakit was a very short meeting anyway09:45
asacits just a minor annoyance to push uploads through someone else for now ... so I guess its not that bad.09:47
gnomefreakbe back got some house work to do09:52
gnomefreakok 2 more filepickers :)10:18
gnomefreakok time to test10:46
gnomefreakfreezing here i think10:50
gnomefreakasac: doent crash here anylonger10:50
asacwhich ones?10:53
asacstill freezing?10:53
asacand before? crash?10:53
gnomefreaktheme crashed me10:54
gnomefreakit was just the video that stopped10:54
gnomefreakafter i close control center it crashed but i changed the themes a few times with control center open10:55
gnomefreakwaiting for apport so i can see this stack10:56
gnomefreakill file it and mark it as dupe if it is same10:57
asactheme still crashes?10:58
asacyou upgraded?10:58
asacwith latest ... thats bad10:58
gnomefreakyou Have to close control center though10:58
gnomefreakyes latest version10:58
asacyeah ...show me stack10:58
gnomefreakas soon as i get apport to finish i will see if i need to retrace it10:59
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gnomefreaki will run it localy11:04
gnomefreakgood thing == it works fine with everything but the theme changing11:09
gnomefreakare we gonna package swiftfox?11:16
gnomefreakasac: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/374987 stack from theme11:28
gnomefreak#43 0xb672eb52 in nsAppShell::Run (this=0x814df78) at nsAppShell.cpp:139???11:29
gnomefreakmake me wonder why that is in there11:30
asacok so this is theme crash?11:40
gnomefreakthats what mine is11:40
gnomefreakunless it waited 5 minutes to crash the pages i closed well 5minutes before11:42
gnomefreakim seeing but 71605 is turning into a "screw it ill dump my report here"11:43
gnomefreakbug 71605 even11:43
UbugtuMalone bug 71605 in firefox "Firefox Crashed while idling in background" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7160511:43
Admiral_Chicagoi'm looking at that one now. iirc, the last crash needs to be retraced11:43
Admiral_Chicagoplus, i haven't looked at them but I assume they have a pattern11:44
gnomefreaki have it11:44
gnomefreaki have apport running on the report11:44
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: theya re different i already filed bugs for each person11:44
gnomefreakthis was one of my redheaded stepbugs11:45
Admiral_Chicagoi'm going to email david to remind him about th wiki pages11:45
gnomefreaki already did on the apport one11:45
gnomefreakhe replied its on his to do list11:45
gnomefreakstill on his to do list11:45
gnomefreakbrb while this is running11:46
tonyyarussoJust to keep you folks posted: KompoZer looks like it will in fact be Nvu 1.1, and a version that the developer feels comfortable with will have a tarball in my inbox on Friday.  I'll then spend the weekend packaging again, and hopefully ask whether a UVF exception is possible for it early next week, preferably with a few good reviews on REVU first.11:47
gnomefreakgood luck11:48
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gnomefreakBTW we need to change some of the comments on the response's page like them getting gdb output and running apport themselves. retraces take care of most of that and most of the time the users are too confused on how to do it even with the steps there11:55
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: i've looked at that already11:56
Admiral_Chicagoi made a note yesterday...I'll try to do it tomorrow11:56
asacgnomefreak: i think we should change title of idling bug11:57
asacgnomefreak: can you please state what is fixed and what is not fixed by preview?11:57
asacis nothing fixed?11:57
gnomefreakeverything but themes11:58
asachow can that be?11:58
gnomefreaki still cant reproduce bookmark crashes. the video bugs are gone11:58
asaci mean i took the patch from the "Crash on theme switch" upstream bug11:58
asacmaybe those are the same (e.g. video and theme)11:59
gnomefreakasac: i will try again but thats what happened11:59
asacbut not fixing the theme is really strange imo11:59
gnomefreaki agree11:59
asacplease double check that you are using the right build11:59
asace.g. not some other window from edgy chroot or old feisty still open11:59
gnomefreaki gave you the build up there11:59
gnomefreakin help it only shows
asacyeah ... just retry :) .... be sure that no ffox is running anymore :)12:00
asacits worth a try, because its so strange :)12:00
gnomefreaki will i have to file bug for this person first :)12:02
asaci think if we use things like bulk reponses, then maybe we should include all info in the comment.12:02
asace.g. not link to page that contains instructions on how to provide debug symbols, but just include steps to do so12:03
gnomefreakok all ff is closed lets try this again12:08
gnomefreakok opened CC adn change theme one time in a sec. and lets see12:09
gnomefreakok thteme window closed lets try CC window12:10
asacdid ffox freeze?12:10
asacat all?12:10
asacif no crash try multiple times :)12:11
gnomefreakno crash i did it 2 times12:11
asacmaybe look if ffox freezes ... e.g. does theme change as fast as theme of rest of desktop12:11
gnomefreakmaybe left over from the other try12:11
asacdoes it freeze for some time after theme change12:12
asaceven if you use high contrast?12:12
gnomefreakim gonna try the video (maybe it was left over from that12:12
gnomefreakdidnt try high contrast12:12
asacyeah maybe trty close video12:12
asacthen switch theme12:12
gnomefreaki didnt know theme made a differnce12:12
asacdon't know either12:13
asacits just well visible .... i changed themes pretty fast12:13
asacthen it froze12:13
gnomefreaktesting https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/71182 right now12:13
UbugtuMalone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed] 12:13
asacif that does not crash anymore ... combine them with theme change ... which apparently causes restyle12:14
asacat best play around for a while12:14
asacill buy cigarettes now ... 10 min12:14
gnomefreaksee you in a bit12:14
gnomefreakclosed movie waits a bit for crash12:15
asacso it still crashed?12:16
gnomefreakno :(12:16
gnomefreaklet me try combo12:16
asacwhy :(12:16
asactry fileshower bug12:16
gnomefreakclosing the vidoe crashes12:19
gnomefreakfollowing steps in bug 7201812:19
UbugtuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201812:19
gnomefreakno theme crash. im thinking it was left over from video test.12:23
gnomefreaki had 8 tabs open just to make sure12:23

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