| BFTD | scite for text editor(its a IDE) X-chat and irssi for IRC | 12:31 |
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| aztun | I have found Mousepad as good graphical editor | 12:33 |
| aztun | and xchat as irc client | 12:33 |
| aztun | but havent found any good image viewer | 12:33 |
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| BFTD | gimp | 12:35 |
| grazie | !gqview ! aztun | 12:37 |
| ubotu | gqview: A simple image viewer using GTK+. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 707 kB, installed size 2312 kB | 12:37 |
| aztun | thx grazie | 12:37 |
| aztun | gonna try | 12:37 |
| irvin | i use geany instead of scite | 12:38 |
| irvin | !info geany | 12:38 |
| ubotu | geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (edgy), package size 1076 kB, installed size 3664 kB | 12:38 |
| aztun | thx grazie, gqview is just what I was looking for | 12:39 |
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| grazie | I thought gqview was installed by default on xubuntu | 12:45 |
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| frojnd | does anyone know where are files that I've donwload via rtorrent | 01:38 |
| frojnd | in the same folder as the .torrent is? | 01:38 |
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| jlamr | sometimes after sitting for a while my laptop looses the internet - I think its because I have dynamic ip addy - how can I restart /reset my network connection? | 01:44 |
| frojnd | unplugg the cable? | 01:52 |
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| jlamr | no like init.d/reset | 02:02 |
| jlamr | cant figure it out | 02:03 |
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| neozen | meep | 02:12 |
| neozen | ....quiet again...... arg | 02:14 |
| neozen | lol | 02:14 |
| jlamr | try apt-get moo | 02:15 |
| neozen | old joke | 02:16 |
| jlamr | heh, jst found it | 02:16 |
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| neozen | aptitude moo | 02:18 |
| neozen | just keep asking for it to be more verbose | 02:19 |
| neozen | ie | 02:19 |
| neozen | aptitude -v moo | 02:19 |
| neozen | aptitude -v -v moo | 02:19 |
| neozen | etc | 02:19 |
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| neozen | that should keep you busy for awhile | 02:20 |
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| superkirbyartist | Hello, what kind of partition can Mac OS read? | 02:20 |
| jlamr | amazing misuse of system resources | 02:20 |
| superkirbyartist | I want to install OS 9. What kind of partition should I use? | 02:20 |
| neozen | kirby: don't know | 02:21 |
| neozen | I believe it can read ntfs | 02:22 |
| neozen | ...but I doubt you'd want to use that | 02:22 |
| neozen | *fat32 | 02:22 |
| jlamr | hes gone - think he got kiked | 02:22 |
| neozen | good | 02:23 |
| jlamr | heh | 02:23 |
| neozen | ...I had no idea what the right answer was | 02:23 |
| jlamr | 02:23 | |
| ubotu | Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com - Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux | 02:23 |
| neozen | I'd have said wth are you doing in a xubuntu chat asking about that | 02:23 |
| jlamr | neozen, you on wireless right now? | 02:24 |
| neozen | yeah | 02:25 |
| neozen | why? | 02:25 |
| jlamr | did your card pick up automatically like windows? | 02:26 |
| neozen | ...yeah | 02:26 |
| neozen | intel pro wireless 3945abg | 02:26 |
| neozen | ...I did my hw | 02:26 |
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| neozen | support was already included in the kernel | 02:27 |
| neozen | ...then I got lucky with network-manager-gnome | 02:27 |
| jlamr | ah - I got a cheapo had to hack the drivers | 02:27 |
| neozen | .....supports my card out of the box | 02:27 |
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| neozen | I remember | 02:27 |
| neozen | broadcom right? | 02:27 |
| jlamr | lucky....yup | 02:27 |
| jlamr | wondering if mine will do the same, network-manager gives me no joy | 02:28 |
| jlamr | wifi-radar seems to work tho | 02:28 |
| jlamr | looking back, shoulda spent the extra 20 bucks | 02:29 |
| neozen | lol | 02:29 |
| neozen | yeah | 02:29 |
| neozen | name-brand hw is good for something | 02:29 |
| j1mc | if you have your wireless card operational, the command "sudo iwlist scan" will list all the access points it can find. | 02:29 |
| jlamr | but i appreciate way more now | 02:29 |
| neozen | ............if its operational ::grins:: | 02:29 |
| jlamr | it is...usually | 02:29 |
| j1mc | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide | 02:30 |
| jlamr | pretty much memorized all those commands | 02:30 |
| jlamr | ifconfig iwlist lspci | 02:30 |
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| neozen | lol | 02:32 |
| neozen | brain got a firmware upgrade eh? | 02:32 |
| neozen | ...these things.. are good | 02:32 |
| jlamr | heh, after that weekend I was speaking in shell script | 02:33 |
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| neozen | I need to find someone w/ experience dealing w/ usb_prism2 | 02:34 |
| neozen | 's | 02:34 |
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| neozen | specifically the one built into the netgear ma111v1 | 02:34 |
| neozen | ....ubuntu forums don't seem to be helping much | 02:34 |
| jlamr | did you post there, they're some of the best forums ive seen | 02:39 |
| skywalker | what is a good version of wine to use? | 02:40 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | One that's listed as being compatible with the application(s) you want to run. | 02:41 |
| neozen | yeah | 02:42 |
| neozen | lol | 02:43 |
| neozen | jlamr: they are indeed | 02:43 |
| neozen | ....my one problem seems to be that their steps aren't working in my case | 02:43 |
| neozen | ::grins:: | 02:43 |
| neozen | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearMA111 | 02:43 |
| neozen | that one's all gui based | 02:43 |
| neozen | *terminal | 02:44 |
| neozen | ....my friend who I'm loaning the card to is not exactly....... terminal savvy | 02:44 |
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| neozen | and yet.... she's running edgy | 02:48 |
| neozen | ...and nothing works | 02:48 |
| neozen | ...all she has to do is switchback to dapper | 02:48 |
| neozen | ...buuuut.. she won't | 02:48 |
| neozen | oh well | 02:49 |
| neozen | thing worked out of box in dapper | 02:49 |
| skywalker | wine? anyone | 02:53 |
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| Maul | sure | 02:54 |
| grazie | me too | 02:54 |
| skywalker | I dont drink | 02:54 |
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| skywalker | sorry guys | 02:54 |
| Maul | I shall kill you and reap from your crop skywalker | 02:55 |
| skywalker | hahaha | 02:55 |
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| grazie | skywalker: I've found with wine the later the version, the more that works, but sometimes things get broken | 02:56 |
| gopp | hey any here installed ubuntu on ppc how do I get yaboot to load | 02:56 |
| Maul | wine 0.9.31 does wonders | 02:56 |
| grazie | gopp: I'm on ppc | 02:56 |
| gopp | grazie how do I get ubuntu to load | 02:57 |
| Maul | I finally got iTunes to work today | 02:57 |
| gopp | all I see ? sad mac | 02:57 |
| skywalker | I want to run one windums prog | 02:57 |
| neozen | lol | 02:57 |
| grazie | gopp: what have you done so far? | 02:57 |
| gopp | I installed ubuntu | 02:57 |
| gopp | boot via open firmware the cd | 02:57 |
| gopp | and installed on my 160 gig hd | 02:58 |
| skywalker | and I did the make install for wine its installed but I need some files and I looked on the net but most of the sights I foung are old | 02:58 |
| gopp | but after it told me to reboot | 02:58 |
| gopp | all I get is | 02:58 |
| gopp | ?mac sad | 02:58 |
| skywalker | found* | 02:58 |
| gopp | you blinking | 02:58 |
| neozen | gopp awwwww | 02:58 |
| neozen | how old is this mac? | 02:58 |
| gopp | g4 pci graphics | 02:59 |
| grazie | gopp: did you use alternate or disktop cd to install? | 02:59 |
| skywalker | I did something realy stupied with the ppc files for susse | 02:59 |
| grazie | desktop* | 02:59 |
| gopp | I used desktop cd | 02:59 |
| gopp | ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso | 02:59 |
| grazie | so live cd works? you can go online with it? | 03:00 |
| gopp | nope | 03:00 |
| gopp | nic didn't work | 03:00 |
| gopp | or at least when I tryed firefox and ifconfig | 03:00 |
| gopp | is network supported in ubuntu | 03:00 |
| neozen | yes | 03:00 |
| neozen | I believe so | 03:01 |
| gopp | how do I access yaboot | 03:01 |
| neozen | ...with futzing | 03:01 |
| neozen | gopp: no idea | 03:01 |
| jlamr | *usually | 03:01 |
| neozen | <---------------pc user here | 03:01 |
| grazie | gopp: i'm on g4 with no network problems | 03:01 |
| gopp | oh | 03:01 |
| neozen | whew | 03:01 |
| grazie | gopp: I'm asking the questions to find out your problems | 03:01 |
| gopp | grazie so how do I access yaboot | 03:02 |
| gopp | oh | 03:02 |
| gopp | I was able to boot from boot cd | 03:02 |
| gopp | in yaboot what do I enter I have boot: from my old yellow dog install | 03:02 |
| gopp | boot: | 03:02 |
| gopp | I know it isntalled in hdb | 03:02 |
| grazie | gopp: just hit tab to see the options | 03:03 |
| gopp | but it gives me the boot kernel for ydl | 03:03 |
| gopp | 2.4.22 | 03:03 |
| gopp | and it boots me in to ydl | 03:03 |
| grazie | then yaboot is working fine | 03:03 |
| gopp | if I want it to boot in to | 03:03 |
| gopp | ubuntu how | 03:04 |
| grazie | it's just not set up correctly for ubuntu | 03:04 |
| gopp | how do I do that | 03:04 |
| gopp | in the boot: | 03:04 |
| gopp | or do I go somewhere else | 03:04 |
| grazie | gopp it would be good to see your /etc/yaboot.conf file | 03:04 |
| gopp | I want ubuntu to be defualt | 03:04 |
| gopp | so only way to access that is in ydl | 03:05 |
| grazie | ok | 03:05 |
| gopp | k let me boot up one secon | 03:05 |
| gopp | thanks dude | 03:05 |
| grazie | gopp: pastebin your /etc/yaboot.conf and /etc/fstab from ubuntu install | 03:06 |
| gopp | from the ubuntu install cd | 03:07 |
| gopp | k | 03:07 |
| gopp | if I can | 03:07 |
| gopp | it goign to take some mins | 03:08 |
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| grazie | gopp: and the output from 'mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda' (ydl may use fdisk - I dunno) | 03:08 |
| gopp | k | 03:12 |
| gopp | I will do fdisk -l /dev/hda > hd.txt | 03:13 |
| gopp | smaba to the box | 03:13 |
| gopp | and open it in notepad and paste it | 03:13 |
| gopp | grazie I have three hardrives on this computers | 03:13 |
| gopp | so hda hdb hdc | 03:14 |
| gopp | or d | 03:14 |
| gopp | or just ssh better | 03:14 |
| gopp | k | 03:14 |
| grazie | do you know which you installed ubuntu on? | 03:14 |
| gopp | hdb | 03:15 |
| gopp | when I looked | 03:15 |
| gopp | but I can tell by size | 03:15 |
| gopp | 160 gig | 03:15 |
| grazie | mount it and pastebin the data | 03:15 |
| gopp | k ssh to the box | 03:15 |
| gopp | what the paste bin url | 03:15 |
| grazie | !pastebin | 03:15 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 03:15 |
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| gopp | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7738/ | 03:17 |
| gopp | k all pasted | 03:17 |
| grazie | pastebin your ydl /etc/yaboot.conf on another page | 03:18 |
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| gopp | k | 03:19 |
| grazie | gopp: looks like you've given me the ydl details there | 03:20 |
| gopp | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7739/ | 03:20 |
| gopp | the 160 gig hd is where I installed | 03:20 |
| gopp | ubuntu | 03:20 |
| grazie | gopp: looks like you've pasted the ydl details twice | 03:21 |
| neoze1 | that would make things go boom if all that's actually in the file | 03:22 |
| gopp | oh I see | 03:23 |
| gopp | mount the yaboot config from ubuntu | 03:23 |
| grazie | gopp: mount the ubuntu disk from ydl | 03:24 |
| gopp | mount -t ext3 /dev/hdf /mntpount | 03:24 |
| gopp | mountpoint | 03:24 |
| gopp | mount -t ext2 /dev/hdf1 /mnt/ubuntu/ | 03:26 |
| gopp | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdf1, | 03:26 |
| gopp | or too many mounted file systems | 03:26 |
| grazie | gopp: Are you sure you know which is the ubuntu drive? | 03:26 |
| gopp | Disk /dev/hdf: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes | 03:27 |
| gopp | this one as this is 160 gig I bought today | 03:27 |
| neoze1 | ok | 03:27 |
| neoze1 | did you use ext2 or ext3 in the install | 03:27 |
| grazie | gopp: does mac-disk work on ydl? | 03:27 |
| neoze1 | ...just noticed you used different file systems for the two mount lines above | 03:28 |
| gopp | nop | 03:29 |
| grazie | gopp: pastbin the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/hdf' | 03:29 |
| gopp | this is starnage | 03:30 |
| gopp | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7741/ | 03:30 |
| gopp | err | 03:31 |
| grazie | gopp: looks like your install didn't work | 03:31 |
| gopp | what should I do | 03:31 |
| grazie | gopp: you got no errors? | 03:31 |
| gopp | nope | 03:31 |
| gopp | it said reboot | 03:31 |
| gopp | with the dilog box | 03:31 |
| grazie | gopp: are you sure you've got the right disk? | 03:32 |
| neoze1 | straaaaaange | 03:32 |
| neoze1 | bye all | 03:32 |
| grazie | nite neoze1 | 03:32 |
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| gopp | yea | 03:33 |
| grazie | gopp: which of the 3 install options did you choose? | 03:33 |
| gopp | I used the install icon | 03:33 |
| gopp | like when I did on a x86 box | 03:33 |
| gopp | should i reboot with install cd | 03:34 |
| grazie | gopp: yes, but you get three options. 1 whole disk, 2, largest free space, 3 Manally paritition | 03:34 |
| gopp | oh I said 1 | 03:34 |
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| Darkkish | i give up | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | please help me with my broadcom wifi | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | i had it set up in kubuntu | 03:35 |
| Maul | ok | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | recently i installed xubuntu because... i thought i'd like it more | 03:35 |
| Maul | tell me whats happening | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | well | 03:35 |
| grazie | gopp: do you remember which you chose? | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | its recongnised in iwconfig | 03:35 |
| gopp | the whole disk | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | but it says "Access Point: Invalid" | 03:35 |
| Darkkish | in iwconfig under eth1 | 03:35 |
| gopp | grazie do I pick live-powerpc | 03:36 |
| grazie | gopp: just hit return | 03:36 |
| Maul | Darkkish, try this "iwconfig eth1 essid <ap's name/network name> | 03:36 |
| grazie | gopp: did you prepare the disk before installing | 03:36 |
| gopp | j reboot | 03:36 |
| gopp | the cd | 03:36 |
| gopp | I just said whole disk | 03:36 |
| gopp | auto one | 03:37 |
| gopp | didn't prepare | 03:37 |
| grazie | gopp: as it's a brand new disk, you may need to prepare it (write partition map partition etc) | 03:38 |
| grazie | gopp: you've booted the live cd? | 03:38 |
| jlamr | Darkkish, if you have/can find the drivers, this worked for me -https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 03:38 |
| grazie | gopp: ? | 03:40 |
| gopp | k | 03:41 |
| gopp | it booted | 03:41 |
| gopp | going to desktop know | 03:42 |
| gopp | going to click instlal icon | 03:42 |
| gopp | install | 03:42 |
| grazie | gopp: no | 03:42 |
| gopp | grazie oh yea it brand new disk | 03:42 |
| gopp | oh don't click it | 03:42 |
| grazie | gopp: can you open gparted? | 03:42 |
| gopp | yea | 03:42 |
| gopp | loading gparted | 03:43 |
| gopp | scanning devices | 03:43 |
| gopp | it says more information | 03:43 |
| grazie | gopp: you still got osx? | 03:43 |
| gopp | nope | 03:44 |
| gopp | all I had was ydl | 03:44 |
| gopp | no mac os | 03:44 |
| grazie | gopp: gparted says 'more information...' | 03:44 |
| gopp | yea | 03:44 |
| gopp | like /dev/hdb1 unknown | 03:45 |
| gopp | boot | 03:45 |
| grazie | can you not select /dev/hdf | 03:45 |
| Maul | well | 03:45 |
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| gopp | well in the live cd it say hdb | 03:45 |
| grazie | ok | 03:45 |
| BFTD | well | 03:45 |
| BFTD | looks like Darkkish pinged out | 03:46 |
| gopp | why does it say ? 0.03 mb unknow | 03:46 |
| gopp | hdb1 | 03:46 |
| BFTD | ohh | 03:46 |
| grazie | gopp: I'll need to look up how to prepare the disk | 03:46 |
| gopp | k thanks | 03:47 |
| Darkkish | idk | 03:50 |
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| Darkkish | i had the card working rather well on kubuntu | 03:50 |
| Darkkish | but i don't remember all that i had to do to get it working | 03:50 |
| Darkkish | it was a rediculously lengthy process | 03:50 |
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| grazie | gopp: I'm not going to be able to find out quickly enough...probably best to google or post on the ppc forum | 03:51 |
| gopp | ooo\ | 03:54 |
| gopp | grazie what if I copy | 03:54 |
| gopp | that yaboot | 03:54 |
| gopp | in to ydl partion | 03:54 |
| grazie | gopp: you;ve not installed anything yet | 03:55 |
| gopp | so google it | 03:55 |
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| gopp | I was able to mount it in | 03:55 |
| gopp | live cd | 03:55 |
| gopp | and I saw the yaboot .conf | 03:55 |
| AngryElf | hey all -- i'm trying to get mp3s working in amarok and i've installed libxine-extracodecs and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly w/o luck -- any ideas? | 03:55 |
| grazie | gopp: ? | 03:55 |
| gopp | yea | 03:55 |
| gopp | I did mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt | 03:56 |
| grazie | gopp: right I think I may know partly why | 03:57 |
| gopp | aah | 03:57 |
| grazie | just found out the ydl uses pdisk (not mac-fdisk) for mac disks | 03:58 |
| gopp | ahh | 03:58 |
| gopp | k but know that I have | 03:58 |
| gopp | the information | 03:58 |
| grazie | ubuntu, gentoo, debian all use mac-fdisk | 03:59 |
| gopp | oh | 03:59 |
| grazie | look like gparted isn't working properly also | 03:59 |
| gopp | aah | 04:00 |
| grazie | boot ydl again and we'll use pdisk this time...fdisk is for dos disks | 04:00 |
| gopp | aah' | 04:00 |
| gopp | k this is going to take some time | 04:02 |
| gopp | brb | 04:02 |
| gopp | rebooting | 04:02 |
| grazie | does the new disk show as /dev/hdf on ydl? | 04:07 |
| gopp | yea | 04:07 |
| gopp | and hdb in ubuntu | 04:07 |
| gopp | it rebooting | 04:07 |
| grazie | just to make life more interesting | 04:07 |
| gopp | yea | 04:07 |
| grazie | seems slow | 04:07 |
| gopp | 350 mhz | 04:08 |
| gopp | but it will suit me good | 04:08 |
| gopp | for what I want | 04:08 |
| grazie | did you install xubuntu? | 04:08 |
| gopp | the regular one | 04:08 |
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| gopp | that the cdr Ihad | 04:08 |
| gopp | but I may do apt-get install xubuntu | 04:09 |
| grazie | gopp: that machine may have problems with 160G :( | 04:09 |
| gopp | hmm | 04:10 |
| gopp | it worked fine with 120 gig | 04:10 |
| grazie | my 350Hz G3 can't handle more than 120G | 04:10 |
| gopp | oh wow | 04:10 |
| gopp | even partions | 04:10 |
| grazie | no disk size is the limiting factor | 04:11 |
| grazie | gopp: you need to find out before we go any further | 04:12 |
| gopp | k | 04:12 |
| grazie | post on the pppc forum for more info | 04:12 |
| gopp | thanks for the help | 04:12 |
| grazie | np | 04:12 |
| gopp | k booted | 04:19 |
| grazie | gopp: you still trying? | 04:23 |
| Darkkish | woo | 04:24 |
| Darkkish | Maul your thing worked thanks | 04:24 |
| gopp | nope | 04:25 |
| gopp | gotother things to do | 04:25 |
| gopp | for tomrrow | 04:25 |
| grazie | just see if 'ofpath /dev/hdf' works if your still booted | 04:26 |
| gopp | k | 04:26 |
| gopp | I rebooted into ubuntu | 04:26 |
| gopp | beucase my ydl is all messed up | 04:27 |
| gopp | thta the reason I got new hd | 04:27 |
| gopp | to move all my data to this drive with a fresh distro | 04:27 |
| gopp | I mean ydl is slow | 04:27 |
| gopp | will try that | 04:27 |
| grazie | don't bother then | 04:27 |
| gopp | oh k | 04:27 |
| gopp | what another good distro | 04:27 |
| gopp | not ydl | 04:27 |
| gopp | all I want this box is for samba | 04:28 |
| gopp | it worked great foro 10 years as a samba box | 04:28 |
| grazie | for ppc there's not much choice | 04:28 |
| grazie | ubuntu is good for easily install. debian and gentoo can be made to go more quickly but take more effort | 04:29 |
| gopp | how is ubuntu server for ppc | 04:29 |
| gopp | I don't even need a gui much | 04:30 |
| gopp | I do but hmm | 04:30 |
| grazie | not tried ubuntu as a server. debain would be a better choice | 04:30 |
| gopp | for samba | 04:31 |
| Darkkish | what is a good wifi manager? | 04:31 |
| grazie | not there's not that much difference really | 04:31 |
| gopp | is it easy to get debian to load | 04:32 |
| gopp | as in install | 04:32 |
| grazie | debian is more hassle to install | 04:32 |
| gopp | oh | 04:33 |
| Darkkish | what is a good wifi manager? | 04:34 |
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| robin | hello all | 04:42 |
| robin | i'm using xubuntu 5.10 (breezy), and on attempt to pull up synaptic or use gksudo apt-get.. i recieve a 'unable to copy xauthorization file..' | 04:43 |
| robin | halting the use of either function. | 04:43 |
| robin | could someone suggest the reason for why i'm seeing this? | 04:43 |
| Darkkish | purely out of curiosity why are you running breezy? | 04:45 |
| robin | i'm not fond of the round contours and goofy flash animation when i upgrade to dapper :S | 04:45 |
| Darkkish | lol | 04:46 |
| Darkkish | well i'm sorry i don't think i can help you with that problem | 04:46 |
| Darkkish | haha i just found your post on google though | 04:47 |
| Darkkish | how long have you been having this problem? | 04:47 |
| robin | i appreciate the response. just today | 04:47 |
| robin | i thought i'd try out xubuntu (have been casually using ubuntu dapper for a month now) | 04:48 |
| Darkkish | awesome, still don't think i can help you though, sorry | 04:49 |
| Darkkish | i've been using kubuntu with xfce installed | 04:49 |
| Darkkish | i really liked xfce so i switched to xubuntu and until just a few minutes ago, couldn't get my wireless working... but now i've got it | 04:49 |
| robin | hm. i really should have given dapper xubuntu a bit more time--as soon as i got to the desktop i hardbooted and started over haha | 04:50 |
| robin | do you know of any problems that could arise through upgrading to xubuntu (+to dapper) from a server install of ubuntu (breezy)? | 04:52 |
| Darkkish | I don't, but i havn't been using ubuntu since breezy | 04:52 |
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| robin | well, linux isn't for loiterers i guess. i'll just update to dapper already and see if that fixes it heh | 04:53 |
| robin | nice talking to ya | 04:54 |
| Darkkish | lol k | 04:55 |
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| jdrake | I am attempting to create a launcher that essentially runs a shell script to load up a screen connection on a remote computer through ssh. My attempts fail utterly with the window closing very fast. My latest attempt is: xfce4-terminal -x ssh hcoop.net ~/screen.sh | 05:01 |
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| Darkkish | ok | 05:25 |
| Darkkish | i give up | 05:25 |
| Darkkish | again. | 05:25 |
| Darkkish | what is a good battery manager for a laptop that will show up in the xfce system tray | 05:25 |
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| Darkkish | what is a good battery manager for a laptop that will show up in the xfce system tray, does anyone know? | 05:29 |
| Jester45 | could someone help me with kernal updates | 05:30 |
| Jester45 | when i try my normal apt-get upgrade | 05:30 |
| Jester45 | it holds the back but in synaptic it installs newones and updates others | 05:30 |
| jdrake | Jester45: in aptitude try a dist-upgrade | 05:31 |
| Jester45 | but i only want one set wich ones would i remove | 05:31 |
| Jester45 | jdrake: im allmost done the synaptic way | 05:31 |
| Jester45 | i was just wondering why it wants to install others | 05:31 |
| firefish | !synaptic | 05:32 |
| ubotu | synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto | 05:32 |
| jdrake | Jester45: My only experience involves certain packages being held back that only a dist-upgrade would solve. However I was only using aptitude at the time. | 05:34 |
| Darkkish | i don't really like synaptic | 05:35 |
| Darkkish | i really like adept >_> | 05:35 |
| Jester45 | Install: linux-headers-2.6.17-11, linux-headers-2.6.17-11-386, linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic, linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic upgrade: linux-headers-386, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic | 05:35 |
| Jester45 | was the way it solved the helb back | 05:35 |
| Jester45 | i think its was becase i removed the default kernel and replaced it with mine | 05:36 |
| Jester45 | then when the upgrade was there apt didnt know how to deactivate the kernal and upgrade it because there was no other kernal | 05:36 |
| jdrake | Why did you replace the kernel with your own? | 05:38 |
| Jester45 | becuase i wanted it to run faster | 05:38 |
| jdrake | ok... | 05:39 |
| jdrake | What makes you think that would make it run faster? | 05:39 |
| Jester45 | because it optimized | 05:40 |
| Jester45 | and it did i got 10 more fps from cube | 05:40 |
| crimsun | well, you know, those midgets sure pedal faster in a self-compiled kernel. | 05:40 |
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| jdrake | Jester45: What was your previous fps and is this 3d accelerated? | 05:40 |
| Jester45 | 140 and yes | 05:41 |
| jdrake | So you got an amazing 7% increase. Not really worth it. | 05:42 |
| Jester45 | it is to me | 05:42 |
| crimsun | that's 7% more crack. | 05:42 |
| crimsun | Everyone can use 7% more crack. | 05:42 |
| jdrake | I doubt the average would even be that high as cube isn't exactly a good test. | 05:42 |
| Jester45 | and its not only cude that runs faster | 05:42 |
| Jester45 | cube | 05:42 |
| jdrake | Jester45: You could also recompile all the software you run to be 'optimized' for your processor. | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | nope | 05:43 |
| jdrake | I am sure it wouldn't be too much trouble with the source packages... | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | no much gentoo | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | o well | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | i will just leave it | 05:44 |
| jdrake | I have a flash drive that doesn't change too greatly, but I do store my school files on it. I have been making backup tarballs (tbz) at about 160mb a pop. I was sort of wondering if there would be a good solid (i.e. can be restored on other than linux) backup method that tracks changes rather than the whole file system image? | 05:48 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Would tar's built-in diff option be enough? | 05:56 |
| jdrake | Built in diff you say? | 06:10 |
| jdrake | That might be | 06:10 |
| jdrake | I am trying tar djvf tarfile.tar.bz2 locationoffilesystem | 06:12 |
| jdrake | tar: /media/FLASHY: Not found in archive | 06:14 |
| jdrake | -C seems to do something | 06:15 |
| jdrake | Doesn't seem to do anything than list files | 06:21 |
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| highvoltage | 1/win 11 | 06:29 |
| Darkkish | http://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-mpc-plugin/trunk/ how would i add this to my repositorys? | 06:29 |
| Darkkish | how would i add this to my repositories? http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/ ** | 06:30 |
| jdrake | Darkkish: It sounds like you are suggesting that you want to put a svn repository into synaptic/aptitude, is that correct? | 06:37 |
| Darkkish | well... if thats even possible, yes | 06:39 |
| Darkkish | jdrake yes if thats possible | 06:41 |
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| jdrake | Darkkish: No, they are two different things. | 06:47 |
| Darkkish | damn. | 06:47 |
| Darkkish | is it worth it? | 06:48 |
| jdrake | Well, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? | 06:48 |
| Darkkish | i'm trying to get xfce4-mpc-plugin | 06:48 |
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| Darkkish | http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.0/src/ i think this might be fore the repositories, does it look right? | 06:49 |
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| jdrake | You could use that to download the source and compile it yourself, but your milage may vary. | 06:49 |
| Darkkish | well i have a tar.gz | 06:50 |
| Darkkish | but i have no idea where to put it... etc | 06:50 |
| jdrake | Wait a second, are you trying to get the 'mcs' stuff? | 06:50 |
| Darkkish | mpc | 06:50 |
| Darkkish | i just want an xfce repository | 06:50 |
| Darkkish | that contains everything | 06:50 |
| jdrake | Just do not overwrite xfce itself, that could be hazardous (I know: I have tried it). | 06:51 |
| Darkkish | I know that | 06:52 |
| Darkkish | I'm not trying to do that | 06:52 |
| Darkkish | I'm trying to download mods for the panels | 06:52 |
| Darkkish | what is the command for opening synaptic? | 06:54 |
| jdrake | synaptic | 06:55 |
| Darkkish | what about opening it so it asks for a password | 06:55 |
| jdrake | sudo synaptic | 06:56 |
| Darkkish | >_> | 06:57 |
| Darkkish | no | 06:57 |
| jdrake | eh? | 06:57 |
| Darkkish | even when you do that | 06:57 |
| Darkkish | it says its not open as root | 06:57 |
| Darkkish | or w/e | 06:57 |
| jdrake | hmm, go into a terminal and try it | 06:57 |
| Darkkish | well i have it open right now, so i can't really | 06:57 |
| jdrake | It should prompt you for a password | 06:57 |
| jdrake | Then close it | 06:57 |
| Darkkish | it does... | 06:57 |
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| jdrake | You can download the mpc plugin from the svn repository. I can tell you that you have to change into the directory, do: ./configure && make, then sudo make install. If that worked, then it should now be installed. I make no guarantees about compatibility and don't have too much time to give fine tuned instructions. | 07:00 |
| Darkkish | i have no idea how to do that >_> | 07:02 |
| jdrake | Hmm, what is this thing and why do you want it? | 07:03 |
| Darkkish | well i have it downloaded | 07:03 |
| Darkkish | bash: ./configure: No such file or directory | 07:03 |
| jdrake | What does pwd give you back | 07:03 |
| Darkkish | sorry i'm a linux n00b so i'll be a bit of a pain | 07:03 |
| Darkkish | /home/nick/Desktop | 07:04 |
| jdrake | type ls, and copy the results to a pastebin site (like pastebin.ca and paste back the url) | 07:04 |
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| Darkkish | xfce4-mpc-plugin-0.3.0.tar.gz | 07:04 |
| Darkkish | thats it. | 07:04 |
| Darkkish | :p | 07:04 |
| jdrake | ok, that is fine. | 07:04 |
| Darkkish | i keep it nice and clean. | 07:04 |
| jdrake | tar xzf xfce4- (the rest of the name can be completed by pressing tab) | 07:05 |
| jdrake | Then there should be a new entry. | 07:05 |
| Darkkish | ok there appears to be a new dir or file | 07:05 |
| Darkkish | a new dir | 07:05 |
| jdrake | ok, cd xfce4-mpc-plugin-0.3.0 | 07:05 |
| jdrake | Or whatever the name is | 07:06 |
| Darkkish | k | 07:06 |
| Darkkish | in | 07:06 |
| jdrake | ./configure --prefix=/usr | 07:06 |
| Darkkish | wow | 07:06 |
| Darkkish | ok | 07:06 |
| jdrake | There may be other options, but I do not know them, so I am going simplified route. | 07:07 |
| Darkkish | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables -_- | 07:07 |
| jdrake | Type gcc | 07:07 |
| Darkkish | gcc: no input fules | 07:07 |
| Darkkish | files* | 07:07 |
| jdrake | Hmm, you are missing compiler stuff I suspect. | 07:07 |
| Darkkish | probably | 07:07 |
| Darkkish | its a pretty clean install' | 07:07 |
| jdrake | Find out if binutils are installed | 07:08 |
| Darkkish | yes it is | 07:08 |
| jdrake | libc6-dev | 07:09 |
| Darkkish | k i'm installing that | 07:10 |
| Darkkish | k thats installed... | 07:10 |
| Darkkish | now it appears to be working | 07:11 |
| jdrake | Go and check all of the xfce packages and make sure that all of the -dev versions are installed. | 07:11 |
| jdrake | Only the -dev versions for what you currently have installed that is. | 07:11 |
| jdrake | You will be installing quite a few packages I suspect. | 07:11 |
| jdrake | You can probably do a multiple selection with control and clicking each one | 07:11 |
| Darkkish | not in synaptic i don't think | 07:12 |
| jdrake | Also, I wouldn't be too concerned about you being a newbie, you are definitely trying and have a good grounding in some of the basics. | 07:12 |
| Darkkish | yeah | 07:12 |
| jdrake | I have done it in synaptic, but whatever, just get the task done some way :p. | 07:12 |
| Darkkish | yeah | 07:13 |
| Darkkish | shit | 07:13 |
| Darkkish | *** The required package libxfce4panel-1.0 was not found on your system. | 07:13 |
| Darkkish | please install or adjust yadda yadda | 07:13 |
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| Darkkish | i don't really have time for this >_> i wish i did, i really want to get this working. | 07:14 |
| Darkkish | but i g2g man | 07:14 |
| Darkkish | thanks for all your help so far | 07:14 |
| Darkkish | night | 07:14 |
| jdrake | No, problem | 07:14 |
| jdrake | night. | 07:14 |
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| leaphisto | anyone familiar with the nomachine nx software? | 08:38 |
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| kristjans | how do i access | 08:48 |
| kristjans | my usb memory stick | 08:48 |
| SatanGolga | mine pops up on the Desktop | 08:49 |
| kristjans | okay | 08:50 |
| kristjans | i'll see if it is in the desktop directory, thx | 08:50 |
| kristjans | hm | 08:50 |
| kristjans | is it possible to restore files on it? | 08:51 |
| kristjans | :P | 08:51 |
| kristjans | i did something real stupid | 08:51 |
| kristjans | i know there were some applications | 08:51 |
| kristjans | for windows that restored hdd, but it's | 08:51 |
| kristjans | physical | 08:51 |
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| leaphisto | how can i access my recent x-session? | 10:41 |
| leaphisto | or how can i start x11vnc by remote | 10:41 |
| Odd_Bloke | My terminal window takes a long time to refresh the screen whenever I change tabs or move to it from a different window. Is this to be expected? | 10:52 |
| NthDegree | Odd_Bloke, what spec PC do you have? | 10:58 |
| Odd_Bloke | NthDegree: Athlon64 XP3000+ w/GeForce2 (using nv drivers). | 10:59 |
| NthDegree | Odd_Bloke, try with the nvidia drivers | 10:59 |
| NthDegree | as opposed to nv | 10:59 |
| Odd_Bloke | NthDegree: Can't get them to work ATM. | 11:00 |
| NthDegree | there's 2 lots | 11:00 |
| Odd_Bloke | Yeah, I know. | 11:00 |
| NthDegree | neither of them work? | 11:00 |
| Odd_Bloke | I'm getting a kernel/driver mismatch when I try the legacy drivers. | 11:00 |
| NthDegree | hmmm | 11:00 |
| Odd_Bloke | And the normal drivers never worked for me in Edgy. | 11:01 |
| === Odd_Bloke is running Feisty. | ||
| NthDegree | that may be why it's slow | 11:01 |
| NthDegree | I haven't personally tried feisty | 11:01 |
| NthDegree | but I can tell you this: | 11:01 |
| NthDegree | it's likely to have a certain amount of debug stuff switched on | 11:01 |
| NthDegree | which will slow it a bit | 11:01 |
| Odd_Bloke | Yeah, that probably explains it. | 11:02 |
| Odd_Bloke | It's no biggie, I was just wondering if I was doing something stupid. :p | 11:02 |
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| Odd_Bloke | Where should I file bugs against Xubuntu Feisty? | 12:00 |
| gpocentek | Odd_Bloke: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | 12:01 |
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| Vincent_k | is there a command to check disk capacity? | 02:27 |
| Odd_Bloke | Vincent_k: 'df -h' | 02:28 |
| Vincent_k | thanks | 02:28 |
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| Odd_Bloke | No worries. | 02:28 |
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| linux_ | hey anyone | 02:41 |
| darrend_laptop | anyone know why there's no init.d script for iptables? What's the recommended way of re-applying rules on startup? | 02:41 |
| linux_ | what about probel with desktop refresh in xubuntu? | 02:41 |
| linux_ | gamin/thunar bug | 02:42 |
| darrend_laptop | (or am I better off asking in #ubuntu perhaps) | 02:43 |
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| Darkkish^zZz | so did ./make --prefix=/usr | 03:41 |
| Darkkish^zZz | er | 03:41 |
| Darkkish^zZz | ./configure --prefix=/usr | 03:41 |
| Darkkish^zZz | and then ./configure && make | 03:41 |
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| Darkkish^zZz | but the file isn't showing up where it should... | 03:41 |
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| frojnd | I opened torrent with return | 04:48 |
| frojnd | and then I set the path to download by ^O | 04:48 |
| frojnd | it was like ./media/sdb2/games/ | 04:48 |
| frojnd | and torrent is still unactive | 04:48 |
| frojnd | if I ^s torrent will start downloading? | 04:49 |
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| grazie | frojnd you talking about rtorrent? Don't know of a rtorrent channel.... maybe you should ping leaphisto? ....and take it #xubuntu-offtopic | 04:54 |
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| BFTD | hey sacater | 05:14 |
| sacater | hi | 05:14 |
| sacater | how u | 05:14 |
| BFTD | not good | 05:17 |
| BFTD | I'm dieing | 05:18 |
| BFTD | some guy is stealing my village | 05:18 |
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| frojnd | leaphisto: here? | 05:32 |
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| sacater | BFTD: im back, village theft is terrible | 05:59 |
| BFTD | sacater, haha tribalwars.net | 06:07 |
| sacater | ah | 06:07 |
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| BFTD | how would i open a .rar in linux? | 06:58 |
| Odd_Bloke | BFTD: Install unrar? | 07:02 |
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| gabkdlly | BFTD: I like file-roller myself | 07:05 |
| gabkdlly | but you will still need to install unrar | 07:05 |
| BFTD | I can't find unrar | 07:05 |
| gabkdlly | did you try the synaptic search feature? | 07:07 |
| BFTD | got it | 07:07 |
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| ephemeros | evening | 08:30 |
| grazie | hi there | 08:32 |
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| grazie | Well 7 is about the lowest by far I've seen on this channel :) | 08:51 |
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| tuxcrafter | JIM were are you | 09:42 |
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| tuxcrafter | j1mc: are you thre | 09:43 |
| posingaspopular | tuxcrafter: he's not there | 09:46 |
| posingaspopular | he's not in #ubuntu-chicago | 09:46 |
| tuxcrafter | posingaspopular: do you no where he is | 09:48 |
| posingaspopular | tuxcrafter: probably work. | 09:48 |
| tuxcrafter | alright | 09:48 |
| posingaspopular | from what i know | 09:49 |
| posingaspopular | he usually logs in around 6 | 09:49 |
| posingaspopular | or 3 hours from now | 09:49 |
| posingaspopular | chicago time | 09:49 |
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| tuxcrafter | than it is midnight here :-D | 09:50 |
| tuxcrafter | here is +1 UTC | 09:50 |
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| lesshaste | is it possible to get the beryl eye candy with xfce? | 10:26 |
| grazie | lesshaste: yes | 10:27 |
| lesshaste | grazie, could you give me some tips please :) | 10:27 |
| lesshaste | grazie, I want something to impress my mac friends :) | 10:28 |
| posingaspopular | lesshaste: if thats the case, get Aero | 10:28 |
| posingaspopular | I kid, I kid | 10:28 |
| lesshaste | I don't even know what aero is | 10:28 |
| grazie | lesshaste: on installing beryl or just getting a distro with xfce + beryl | 10:29 |
| OsamaBinAWESOME | lesshaste: it's the vista eye candy | 10:29 |
| OsamaBinAWESOME | it sucks | 10:29 |
| lesshaste | grazie, on installing beryl and making it beautiful I suppose | 10:29 |
| grazie | !beryl | lesshaste | 10:30 |
| ubotu | lesshaste: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects | 10:30 |
| grazie | lesshaste: or check out the forums...it can be tricky to get it working | 10:31 |
| grazie | lesshaste: you on x86? | 10:31 |
| lesshaste | yes | 10:31 |
| lesshaste | toshiba r200 | 10:31 |
| lesshaste | intel 915G chipset | 10:31 |
| grazie | lesshaste: sam is a really good distro for checking out xfce+beryl...just download it | 10:32 |
| lesshaste | a new linux distro?? | 10:32 |
| lesshaste | I would rather to it from the current setup.. reinstalling is a pain for me | 10:33 |
| grazie | sam is a live cd. | 10:35 |
| grazie | I don't like beryl particularly, although there's same great work been done...not the best person to ask | 10:35 |
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| Dylan_ | Is anyone here that could help me? | 10:37 |
| posingasopular | Dylan_: what did you break? | 10:37 |
| === grazie thinks breaking things is part of the fun of linux | ||
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| Prodoc | good evenin' | 10:38 |
| Dylan_ | well, i am trying to install xubuntu on a ibook G3/ one usb/ blue laptop, but it tells me that i don't have enough ram, also if i get it to work, it loads so slowly that it took about a half hour to load the icons | 10:38 |
| grazie | Dylan_: you need the alternate cd | 10:39 |
| Prodoc | I just installed xubuntu and everything worked like a charm, congrats! | 10:39 |
| Dylan_ | ah....where could i get that | 10:39 |
| grazie | Dylan_: same page you got the desktop cd? | 10:40 |
| Prodoc | even installing php5 and mysql worked without any problems but postgresql didn't | 10:40 |
| grazie | !download | Dylan_ | 10:41 |
| ubotu | Dylan_: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive | 10:41 |
| Dylan_ | I do not under stand what teh alternate CD is... is it the other release? | 10:42 |
| Dylan_ | Oh jeez, i said teh. Sorry. | 10:42 |
| Prodoc | first I used 'sudo apt-get install postgresql' but I got the following error: 'Package postgresql is not available...However the following packages replace it: postgresql-common postgresql-client-common' | 10:42 |
| Prodoc | so I entered 'sudo apt-get install postgresql-common postgresql-client-common' | 10:43 |
| Prodoc | though I've got the feeling nothing much got installed | 10:44 |
| grazie | Prodoc: synaptic is a great tool for searching and then installing related packages | 10:44 |
| Prodoc | heh, now why didn't I think of that :-$ I just did what was written in the ubuntu documentation | 10:46 |
| grazie | :) | 10:46 |
| Prodoc | should I remove postgresql-common and postgresql-client-common again? | 10:47 |
| Dylan_ | Thanks, I see it now. It should work fine with only 3 gigs of Hard Drive memory, right? | 10:47 |
| grazie | Prodoc: I wouldn't unless you don't think you need them any more | 10:48 |
| grazie | Dylan_: it'll fit.. no much scope for lots of apps and data though....how much ram? | 10:48 |
| grazie | not* | 10:49 |
| Prodoc | to tell you the truth I don't have a clue what they are for, I just installed it because it was suggested in the error message | 10:49 |
| Dylan_ | The person before me upgraded it.... so around 90 mb | 10:49 |
| grazie | Prodoc: they're client packages to a postgresql db//if that what's you want? | 10:50 |
| Dylan_ | OSX was so slow and glitchy i had to get rid of it. | 10:50 |
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| grazie | Dylan_: 90mb will work...no go for osx though :( | 10:51 |
| Prodoc | I want to run postgresql to play with it but I've never done it before | 10:51 |
| Dylan_ | it took about 4-6 mins to start up | 10:51 |
| grazie | Prodoc: any particular reason for wanting postgresql rather than mysql? | 10:52 |
| Prodoc | because I want to get familiar with that db as well | 10:53 |
| Prodoc | so I'm setting up a dev environment | 10:53 |
| Prodoc | for website devb | 10:53 |
| Prodoc | -b | 10:53 |
| Prodoc | or at least trying to ;-) | 10:53 |
| Prodoc | but I see that those packages are required anyway | 10:54 |
| grazie | Prodoc: a db server is not much good without clients....would be easier to try one and then the other one later | 10:56 |
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| Prodoc | I need both db's for different projects | 10:58 |
| Prodoc | where in xubuntu can I find an overview of my system specs? | 10:59 |
| Prodoc | I've got a second HD in my system which isn't partitioned yet though I can find a place to do so | 11:00 |
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| skywalker | hello anyone have a problem with updateing? | 11:02 |
| grazie | skywalker: using update manager? | 11:03 |
| grazie | Prodoc: gparted is great tool to set up partitions on a disk | 11:04 |
| skywalker | yea when I update it changed my internet connection to wired connection and Iam on a wireless and then I cant get online anymore unless I boot to the other kern 10 not 11 | 11:04 |
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| avalon_ | Can someone explain to me how I can get my USB Headset working with the Xine engine? | 11:04 |
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| grazie | skywalker: so you've got a network config problem? | 11:05 |
| skywalker | only when I update | 11:06 |
| Prodoc | there's no tool included by default which can create one big partition on the second hd? | 11:06 |
| skywalker | so I picked install security updats only | 11:06 |
| grazie | skywalker: this happens every time you try to update? | 11:07 |
| skywalker | and I had the same problem with the 11 but I styll booted to 10 and I was wondering if the security updates are running in 10 as well? | 11:07 |
| skywalker | yes | 11:07 |
| grazie | Prodoc: there's no gui tools by default, but linux cli tools are standard | 11:08 |
| skywalker | in the software sources I have to conf | 11:08 |
| grazie | skywalker: I'm have trouble understanding. What do you mean by 10 and 11? | 11:09 |
| Prodoc | ok, and a gui for all general system specs? (CPU, RAM, etc) | 11:09 |
| skywalker | Iam running Ubuntu 10 the version of the kernial | 11:10 |
| skywalker | sorry tyop* | 11:10 |
| skywalker | tired | 11:10 |
| Prodoc | not as in usage but amount of RAM present, CPU spee, etc | 11:10 |
| Prodoc | +d | 11:10 |
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| grazie | Prodoc: htop is a great little graphic tool (in the repos), but not a gui. There are lots of choices...it's up to you to find what you want | 11:13 |
| Prodoc | ok, thanks for all the info grazie | 11:15 |
| grazie | np | 11:15 |
| Prodoc | (gparted works like a charm) | 11:15 |
| skywalker | grazie the Kernel 10 upgradeing to 11 | 11:16 |
| skywalker | Ubuntu 6.10 | 11:17 |
| grazie | skywalker: in a terminal type 'uname -r' | 11:17 |
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| grazie | skywalker: that will return the kernal version | 11:17 |
| grazie | maxamillion: hi | 11:18 |
| skywalker | ok 2.6.17-10-generic | 11:18 |
| maxamillion | grazie: hello | 11:18 |
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| skywalker | now if I go and upgrade to 2.6.17-11-generic it changes my network card to wired connection | 11:19 |
| skywalker | no more wireless | 11:19 |
| skywalker | gone | 11:19 |
| skywalker | poof lol | 11:19 |
| grazie | skywalker: I understand now | 11:19 |
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| skywalker | not realy a big problem Iam just alittel worried about the security | 11:20 |
| RememberPOL | Is there a GUI NTP client available? | 11:21 |
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| grazie | skywalker: not a security problem I don't think | 11:21 |
| grazie | RememberPOL: ftp? | 11:21 |
| RememberPOL | NTP | 11:22 |
| BFTD | I art here | 11:22 |
| skywalker | mmm okthen I dont care | 11:22 |
| skywalker | great | 11:22 |
| skywalker | lol | 11:22 |
| grazie | skywalker: when the kernel is updated, kernel modules need to be updated too. Your wifi modules should have been updated too | 11:23 |
| RememberPOL | grazie: An interface to `ntpdate`.. It comes standard in Ubuntu. | 11:23 |
| grazie | RememberPOL: I don't know of any gui. What the gui called in Ubuntu? | 11:24 |
| RememberPOL | Probably gnome-*something. | 11:26 |
| skywalker | mmm grazie what is Proprietary drivers for devices? | 11:26 |
| RememberPOL | grazie: Actually, it appears to be `time-admin` | 11:27 |
| RememberPOL | And it _is_ available on Xubuntu... | 11:27 |
| RememberPOL | There's just no easy link to it... | 11:27 |
| RememberPOL | In Ubuntu's gnome setup, if you right click on the task bar clock, you get the option to invoke `time-admin`. | 11:28 |
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| grazie | skywalker: I don't understand you question | 11:28 |
| lobianco | hello all ... it's my first time on IRC ;-) | 11:28 |
| maxamillion | lobianco: welcome :) | 11:29 |
| grazie | RememberPOL: can you not right click and get props in gnome? | 11:29 |
| RememberPOL | .... | 11:29 |
| skywalker | in the software sources | 11:29 |
| grazie | lobianco: hi there | 11:29 |
| RememberPOL | This is Xubuntu | 11:29 |
| RememberPOL | XFCE | 11:29 |
| lobianco | thanks maxamillion | 11:29 |
| grazie | RememberPOL: You telling about an app on Ubuntu! | 11:30 |
| lobianco | I have a problem installaing xubuntu... | 11:30 |
| lobianco | can I ask it here? | 11:30 |
| RememberPOL | grazie: Forget it. I figured it out. | 11:30 |
| skywalker | I like Ubuntu I cant wate to put it my laptop | 11:31 |
| RememberPOL | I'm running Xubuntu 6.10 on my laptop | 11:32 |
| RememberPOL | Had mainstream Ubuntu, before | 11:32 |
| skywalker | its a IBM so it should be more compatidle | 11:32 |
| hyper_ch | !java | 11:32 |
| ubotu | To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre | 11:32 |
| hyper_ch | !java virtual machine | 11:32 |
| RememberPOL | Everything works fine except for the fact I need to restart and turn off by holding the button at password screen because the system hangs on shutdown :| | 11:32 |
| maxamillion | !jvm | 11:32 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 11:32 |
| skywalker | compatible* | 11:32 |
| maxamillion | !info jvm | 11:32 |
| ubotu | Package jvm does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas | 11:32 |
| RememberPOL | !sun-java | 11:33 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 11:33 |
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| RememberPOL | *shrug* | 11:33 |
| jmichaelx | !ati | 11:33 |
| ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 11:33 |
| hyper_ch | maxamillion: you know what package jvm is? | 11:33 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: sun-java5-jvm | 11:34 |
| maxamillion | !info sun-java5-jvm | 11:34 |
| ubotu | Package sun-java5-jvm does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas | 11:34 |
| maxamillion | hmmmm | 11:34 |
| maxamillion | hold on | 11:34 |
| lobianco | I am try to install "alternative CD" on a old 64 MB laptop but I am suck with "Configuring anthy".. I mean hours on 65%.. and I am not the only one.. | 11:34 |
| hyper_ch | maxamillion: I have now installed cacao and jamvm | 11:35 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: oooo ... it's jre for java runtime environment | 11:35 |
| grazie | lobianco: you can kill the process | 11:35 |
| maxamillion | !info sun-java5-jre | 11:35 |
| ubotu | sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB | 11:35 |
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| hyper_ch | where can I find the executable? | 11:36 |
| skywalker | I got wine 31 to run for the first time in my linuxing | 11:36 |
| Ubugtu | Wine bug 31 in misc-bugs "Enhancement: Add ability for user to take bug with one click" [Enhancement,Closed: fixed] http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31 | 11:36 |
| grazie | :) | 11:36 |
| skywalker | lol | 11:36 |
| skywalker | wine | 11:36 |
| skywalker | wine31 | 11:37 |
| skywalker | hoo how come only 72 people | 11:37 |
| skywalker | why the other channel is 100000000000 people on it thats insane | 11:37 |
| lobianco | hello.. I am suck with xubuntu installation.... | 11:38 |
| skywalker | wine 31 | 11:38 |
| Ubugtu | Wine bug 31 in misc-bugs "Enhancement: Add ability for user to take bug with one click" [Enhancement,Closed: fixed] http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31 | 11:38 |
| lobianco | it stops on 65% on "Configuring anthy"... any advise?? | 11:38 |
| grazie | lobianco: you can kill the process anthy | 11:38 |
| grazie | lobianco: hit atl+f2 | 11:39 |
| lobianco | how can find the PID...?? | 11:39 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: /etc/java-1.5.0-sun/ /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/ | 11:39 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/ | 11:39 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: i dunno why my paste brought in the /etc/java-1.5.0-sun/ ... sorry | 11:39 |
| lobianco | grazie: "killall anthy" ? | 11:39 |
| grazie | lobianco: try that yes | 11:40 |
| lobianco | grazie: "no process killed".. really I think it is the installer process that is running, not anthy | 11:41 |
| grazie | lobianco: try 'grep aux | grep -i anthy' | 11:41 |
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| hyper_ch | maxamillion: can you try getting a program to run? | 11:42 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: sure | 11:43 |
| maxamillion | what's up? | 11:43 |
| hyper_ch | maxamillion: http://www.steuern.sg.ch/home/sachthemen/eservices/ereigniss/schrit/download_der_steuererklaerung.Download.html?os=Linux | 11:44 |
| hyper_ch | trying to get this tax program to run | 11:44 |
| hyper_ch | http://www.steuern.sg.ch/home/sachthemen/eservices/ereigniss/schrit/download_der_steuererklaerung.html | 11:44 |
| grazie | lobianco: this should work 'grep aux | grep -i mkworddic' | 11:44 |
| hyper_ch | Please define INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME to point to a suitable JVM. | 11:44 |
| hyper_ch | You can also try to delete the JVM cache file /home/hyper/.install4j | 11:44 |
| hyper_ch | but I pointed out that jre folder :( | 11:44 |
| lobianco | grazie: doesn't do anything.. also here they discuss of the same error: http://irc-archive.com/read/FreeNode/linux/2007-01-05/18 (user jonty_rocks3) | 11:47 |
| lobianco | grazie: now I try the latter one.. | 11:47 |
| grazie | lobianco: here to >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1746624 | 11:47 |
| BFTD | hyper_ch, it works great for me | 11:48 |
| hyper_ch | WHY=????? | 11:48 |
| hyper_ch | :( | 11:49 |
| BFTD | hrm... | 11:49 |
| BFTD | hold on | 11:49 |
| BFTD | hyper_ch do you have the multiverse and universe repos enabled? | 11:50 |
| hyper_ch | BFTD: yes | 11:50 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: i can't speak the langauge ... but the application launched an installer ... is that enough of a test? | 11:51 |
| BFTD | hyper_ch install jre 1.6 | 11:51 |
| hyper_ch | maxamillion: yes it is | 11:51 |
| hyper_ch | BFTD: what's the package? | 11:51 |
| maxamillion | hyper_ch: try running ... "sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java" | 11:51 |
| BFTD | not sure | 11:51 |
| BFTD | I'm not in Xubuntu atm | 11:51 |
| hyper_ch | BFTD: thx :) | 11:51 |
| BFTD | jsut search for jre or java | 11:51 |
| hyper_ch | maxamillion: hmm, I got it working now also after I did set the path in the installer.sh file itself | 11:52 |
| BFTD | I usually install everything on those subjects and se if it works :P | 11:52 |
| hyper_ch | thx for the help :) | 11:53 |
| lobianco | thanks grazie.. I didn't find it with google.. I solved with PS and then killing the process.. it is now continue the installation.. | 11:54 |
| grazie | lobianco: great! | 11:54 |
| leaphisto | frojnd: now here | 11:54 |
| lobianco | ;-) | 11:54 |
| hyper_ch | I think it's great that they offer the tax program also for linux :) | 11:54 |
| hyper_ch | well, it's written in java hence not much complications to get it to run on windows or mac or linux :) but still it's great | 11:55 |
| frojnd | leaphisto: I have for my default path for downloading: /media/sdb2/ and now don't know how to reseed the torrents that are in ./ | 11:55 |
| frojnd | we are talking about rtorrent | 11:56 |
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| yaccin | anyone running feisty? | 12:05 |
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| PuMpErNiCkLe | !anyone | 12:05 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 12:05 |
| yaccin | :P | 12:05 |
| yaccin | is xubuntu feisty as stable as kubuntu feisty? ^^ | 12:05 |
| maxamillion | yaccin: not at the moment i don't think so | 12:05 |
| yaccin | ah ok | 12:05 |
| atarinox | hi, can somebody help me out. i'm trying to figure out how to access windows shared folders on my local network in xubuntu | 12:06 |
| maxamillion | yaccin: but then again ... i haven't touched kubuntu so i could be wrong | 12:06 |
| yaccin | so better use edgy with xfce? :) | 12:06 |
| yaccin | heh | 12:06 |
| atarinox | i installed hte packages under system>shared folders | 12:06 |
| yaccin | im running kubuntu feisty now :) | 12:06 |
| maxamillion | probably | 12:06 |
| atarinox | now im lost | 12:06 |
| yaccin | atarinox: it would be easy with konqueror :/ | 12:06 |
| hyper_ch | yaccin: konqui can also be installed :) | 12:06 |
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| yaccin | hyper_ch: but isnt by default :D | 12:07 |
| yaccin | oh... how do i add gtk/metacity themes i downloaded from xfce-look or gnome-look? | 12:07 |
| yaccin | on kde tehres systemseetings where you can easyli install them | 12:07 |
| yaccin | *settings | 12:07 |
| yaccin | gah damn my typing :D | 12:08 |
| notMaxamillion | !language | 12:08 |
| ubotu | Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | 12:08 |
| notMaxamillion | bah!!! | 12:08 |
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| yaccin | !(&$ my typing? ^_^ | 12:08 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about my typing? ^_^ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 12:08 |
| yaccin | lol | 12:09 |
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| hyper_ch | well, yaccin the things that are default were made upon a choice by someone but that choice doesn't say it's the best one for everybody :9 | 12:10 |
| yaccin | !changethemes isnt really helpfull | 12:10 |
| yaccin | hyper_ch: i know :) | 12:10 |
| yaccin | hmm i would be happy if tehre was a DE like xfce, based on QT and not GTK annd as easyli configurable as KDE is ^^ | 12:11 |
| grazie | yaccin: extract themes to ~/.themes and icons to ~/.icons...done | 12:12 |
| yaccin | ah thx :) | 12:12 |
| yaccin | thats great :D | 12:12 |
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| yaccin | when you install xubuntu do you already have k3b or something like that? | 12:13 |
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| grazie | yaccin: Xfburn....never worked for me...I use graveman which is great | 12:14 |
| yaccin | never heard of both :D ill take a look at them | 12:14 |
| skywalker | is thier anymore free emulatiors besides wine | 12:15 |
| yaccin | do they both burn DVDs also? | 12:15 |
| yaccin | graveman does :) | 12:16 |
| skywalker | I only run one windums app its a chat prog | 12:16 |
| maxamillion | graveman is awesome | 12:16 |
| grazie | yaccin: Xfburn - no | 12:16 |
| yaccin | !graveman | 12:16 |
| ubotu | graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (edgy), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB | 12:16 |
| yaccin | i love k3b :) | 12:16 |
| BFTD | !graveman | 12:16 |
| hyper_ch | yaccin: i use also k3b and k9copy | 12:17 |
| yaccin | hmm is there a gtk-based application like amarok? | 12:17 |
| grazie | k3b is out of place on xfce | 12:17 |
| yaccin | k9copy is great :) | 12:17 |
| yaccin | but i dont have a DVD Burner yet | 12:17 |
| yaccin | but i ordered one today | 12:17 |
| yaccin | :D | 12:17 |
| yaccin | graveman looks nice :) | 12:17 |
| yaccin | i think ill try it | 12:17 |
| hyper_ch | grazie: why? | 12:18 |
| grazie | hyper_ch: those kdelibs....alternates are nearly always better | 12:18 |
| skywalker | !Microsucks | 12:18 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about microsucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 12:18 |
| hyper_ch | grazie: why? or rather compared to what are they better? | 12:19 |
| skywalker | !Nukerosoft | 12:19 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about nukerosoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 12:19 |
| grazie | yaccin: never used amarok, but exaile is supposed to be getting good | 12:20 |
| grazie | hyper_ch: any app on xfce that doesn't need resource hungry kdelibs will always have advantages | 12:21 |
| hyper_ch | grazie: for something compared to be better you relay on some kind of value-system... however if you the basic principles on what you base your values on then something else can be considered better... in my case I don't restrict myself on gtk / qt issues | 12:21 |
| hyper_ch | grazie: your value system is only based on system usage... I base my value system of what app can do the best for my needs... | 12:22 |
| grazie | hyper_ch: absolutely...each to their own....but I installed xfce to light...top priority | 12:22 |
| grazie | hyper_ch: having said always prefer to use opera over any of the alternatives | 12:23 |
| hyper_ch | grazie: I didn't... I installed it because default kde and gnome has just too much unnecessary eyecandy :) I differentiate between gui and usability :) | 12:23 |
| hyper_ch | grazie: shouldn't you go for lynx then instead of Opera? | 12:24 |
| yaccin | oh exaile looks nice | 12:24 |
| yaccin | and it has playlist-tabs :D | 12:24 |
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| PGraves | Guys, I just installed Ubuntu on a brand new system and I can't get any sound.... I'm a linux novice and I've been googling, but not having too much luck on solving this problem. Can someone help me? | 12:25 |
| grazie | hyper_ch: being using opera for quite a while and I like it...lynx just doesn't compare | 12:25 |
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