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ograits a commitment at least12:19
bimberihi RichE :)12:19
bimberier, RichEd12:21
RichEd:)12:22
bimberiRichEd: the issue with the link to the NSW Dept of Ed story is a trailing ). Remove it and it works fine: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Video_DET_considers_Linux_on_the_desktop/0,130061733,339272567,00.htm12:22
cbx33nn RichEd -> pm12:24
RichEdthanks bimberi : getting a bit late to check loooong links in my browser :)12:25
RichEdi mean long URLs ... eyes are fading12:25
bimberi:)12:25
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lnshey all12:26
RichEdbimberi: it's loaded ... i'll read it in the morning12:27
RichEdwe're looking for people to invite to the education summit:12:27
RichEdhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/UES-Sevilla12:27
cliebow_ijn?12:28
RichEdNSW may have some candidates12:28
cliebow_in?12:28
RichEdSevilla Spain ... check out the link12:28
cliebow_i am12:28
RichEd2 days of education summit prior to UDS12:28
cliebow_8~)\12:28
lnsHey this might be a real dumb question, but is there a more 'advanced' GUI user/group editor for Edubuntu/Ubuntu, other than the stock one? There's no search capability, some things sorting usernames doesn't even work..?12:29
lnsI looked at schooltool but i don't think it delves into user management12:30
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ajmitchinteresting, hearing of edubuntu use in NZ01:55
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | edgy (6.10) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edgy/ | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes
=== Topic (#edubuntu): set by Seveas at Sun Nov 26 18:00:58 2006
cbx33ogra, if i install a 2 nic edubutnu server....but I don't want to use DHCP....will it still work?11:30
cbx33ltsp-build-client (edgy) just failed on this machine11:36
cbx33about creating the fd symlink11:36
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sorush20hi12:27
sorush20what book would be good for finding out how to expand vocabulary in english12:28
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damien_hi12:37
damien_is there anyone that can help me ?12:38
cbx33depends on the problem12:38
damien_:)12:38
damien_general questions regarding edubuntu12:38
cbx33shoot12:38
damien_my brother is french, disabled and I'm reseraching a good distro for the place where he lives12:39
damien_they have very old pc (pentium, pentium 2, pentium 3) but no big server fir LTSP12:40
damien_I have no idea if edubuntu is really good for impaired people and I can't find any local french community12:41
cbx33hmm12:42
cbx33well you don't have to install as LTSP12:42
damien_and of course there isn't anyone that know linux very well there12:42
damien_I just wanted to know if edubuntu is good enough in french and if software in edubuntu (gcompris for instance) are not ocmplicated for impaired people12:43
damien_(sorry for not being polically correct, but i don't know the right words in english)12:44
damien_so can I recommand Edubuntu for this use, knowing that i won't be there to support their network ?12:47
cbx33i would think it would be fine12:47
cbx33and your english is excellent12:47
damien_and can "anyone" manage about 20-30 pc without LTSP ?12:49
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stgrabera dpend ce que tu entends par "grer", si c'est crer des comptes pouvant se loguer sur toutes les machines (style domaine Windows), il faudra un serveur grant les comptes, si c'est pour les mises  jour, il suffira que la personne se logue pour pouvoir le faire donc oui12:51
stgraberhi RichEd12:51
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RichEdhi stgraber12:51
RichEdhello jsgotangco12:51
jsgotangcoRichEd: hello long time no chat12:52
RichEdjsgotangco: been on the road so to speak12:53
jsgotangcooh a road warrior12:53
RichEdmore like air warrior ... but yes armed to travel12:54
jsgotangcoive been travelling myself, i know the feeling :/12:56
jsgotangcoso how's it going01:01
damien_Thanks for answering my question. I will recommend edubuntu. My brother will be happy for sure.01:03
damien_bye.01:03
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TeePOGhi everyone02:39
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rockprincesshello everyone! :D02:56
rockprincessgood news!02:56
rockprincessi fixed the problem i had yesterday...02:56
RichEdhi TeePOG , rockprincess02:59
rockprincesshi RichEd :D02:59
TeePOGhi RichEd mate02:59
RichEdrockprincess: when you are done, we'll need to change your name to ubunturocksprincess02:59
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TeePOGlol03:00
rockprincesshehe03:00
TeePOGgirls love long, erm, nicks03:00
TeePOG*duck*03:00
rockprincessis mine really that long? ;)03:00
TeePOGwell, if RichEd has his way with your nick, it will be03:01
rockprincess5 of 6 machines booted fine :)03:01
rockprincesshaha :) I'm fine with that ;)03:01
HackphiLsalut there03:01
TeePOGhi HackphiL03:01
HackphiLI'm a newbie with edubuntu03:02
RichEdrockprincess: now if one of the boys asked that " is mine really that long? ;)" that would be an entirely different question.03:02
TeePOGwhy does edgy not have a manual entry for dhcpd.conf?03:02
TeePOGmore to the point, which package provides it?03:02
TeePOGlol RichEd03:02
TeePOGwe'd be talking about uptime03:02
rockprincessRichEd: hahaha, haven't thought on that :D03:03
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TeePOGciao RichEd03:04
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cbx33hey rockprincess03:18
cbx33howz it going03:18
cbx33anyone here expereienced problems with TFTP03:18
cbx33E32 tftp open timeout03:18
rockprincesshey Pete :)03:18
rockprincesscbx33: my edubuntu network runs smoothly, thanks to Juliux :D03:19
cbx33nice03:19
rockprincesscbx33: I'll start with the User Testing next Monday :D03:20
cbx33does anyone know, hmm......i need to put my pxe on a different machine to the edubuntu server03:25
cbx33is this possible?03:25
TeePOGhmm03:27
TeePOGi know it's possible to put the ltsp on a different server than the dhcp server03:27
cbx33oh yeh I'm doing that already :p03:27
TeePOGbut do not know enough about your problem cbx3303:27
TeePOGsorry03:27
cbx33bascially my NICs suck03:28
TeePOGah03:28
TeePOGyes?03:28
cbx33and don;t respond properly to the DHCP03:28
TeePOGahhh03:28
cbx33they try to connect to the DHCP server as the TFTP server03:28
cbx33and ignore boot server commnad03:28
cbx33i saw a post where someone placed their tftp server on the dhcp server as a workaround03:29
cbx33so i wanted to try that out03:29
TeePOGwhy not nfs-mount the pxe on a different server, and nfs-mount it to the edubuntu server?03:30
cbx33hang on runthat by me again03:31
cbx33how will that help?03:31
cbx33the tftp server actually hasto be running elsewhere, on the dhcp server03:31
cbx33http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2006-September/007287.html03:32
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cliebowYip Yip Yippee@@03:40
bddebianHeya03:41
cbx33cliebow: you seem hapy in all channels :p03:45
cliebowwell igot this "no hardware left behind" solaris installing!03:47
TeePOGbye all03:50
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sbalneavCongrats to Ollie!!!04:06
sbalneavogra++04:06
sbalneavedubuntugirl: ogra++04:06
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rockprincessI'm back!04:08
rockprincessat one of the machines i got the following message:04:08
rockprincessBusyBox v1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)04:09
rockprincessEnter 'help' for a list of built-in commands04:09
rockprincess.... /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off04:09
rockprincessi then pressed ctrl+alt+del and rebooted the machine...and then it worked fine04:10
sbalneavUsually that's NFS slowness04:10
sbalneavAre you on a hub, or a switch?04:10
rockprincessswitch04:10
cliebowsomehow didnt get mounted filesystem?04:10
sbalneavDoes it do it consistently, or a one-time thing?04:11
rockprincessthat was a one-time thing....but i'm afraid it could turn up again....04:11
rockprincesscould it be caused by starting two machines at the same time?04:11
rockprincessthe performance of all 6 machines was fine :D04:12
rockprincesscan't complain04:12
sbalneavIt's possible.  What kind of network card is in the server for the terminals?04:12
rockprincessa 3com....but soon to be replaced by a Realtech04:12
sbalneav3com what?  And what kind of realteck? Not an 8139?04:13
sbalneavDon't skimp on the network card.  Use something good, like an intel ether express 100, something that's got a ring buffer, and can store up a couple of packets per interrupt.04:14
sbalneavOtherwise, the network card can drop packets.  That interface will be very busy.04:14
rockprincessok...i'll have a look for the intel ether express 10004:15
a5benwillissbalneav: You're busy this morning, helping on two chans :-)04:17
sbalneavThat, and actually trying to do my job, as well :)04:17
a5benwillisGood on ya.04:18
rockprincesssbalneav: i'm afraid the intel ether express is unavailable in austria....04:19
sbalneave100?04:21
sbalneavNot available?  Man!04:21
rockprincessbut maybe this is the same one, only labelled differently... http://geizhals.at/a10887.html04:21
sbalneavyeah04:21
sbalneavthat04:22
sbalneavthats it.04:22
rockprincesswhat's the difference between the desktop and the server adapter?04:22
sbalneavServer will have more buffer space.  Get that one.04:23
rockprincessok04:23
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cbx33w00t04:39
cbx33it works ;)04:39
cbx33oooh I'm so blogging about this04:40
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highvoltagesee bee ex three three05:57
cbx33hey highvoltage05:58
cbx33don;t do that man05:58
cbx33I'll never see you coming :p05:58
cliebowso im in recovery mode looking at filesystem on a sun with dapper installed..at normal bootup i see init version 2.85..then fails saying /proc is already mounted..can i assume contro is now in rc.sysiniit?06:01
highvoltagecbx33: :)06:01
cbx33damn Intel Boot Agent06:18
cbx33;)06:18
cbx33http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=24706:18
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highvoltagecbx33: shouldn't that be "school's Edubuntu Server"?06:38
highvoltagecbx33: nice entry, btw06:39
highvoltagecbx33: and when you refer to Microsoft Windows, then you should spell Windows with a capital dubya06:40
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Burgworkhey highvoltage, cbx3306:46
Burgworkhighvoltage: you were going to PM me?06:46
stgraberAnyone with good knowledge of how gnome menus work ?06:58
stgraberI'd like to know how is determined who can/can't see the Administration/* items06:59
stgraberI think it's based on a group but I have a user who is part of adm and admin and still can't access to these items06:59
stgraber(and he has sudo rights)06:59
stgrabercbx33: If you are still looking for a way to have you Windows network drives mapped at logon, I did that this afternoon07:02
Burgworkstgraber: the admin group07:03
stgraberBurgwork: ok, so I have a problem, the users are part of the admin group :) but thank you at least I'm now sure that was the right group07:04
highvoltagehey Burgwork!07:05
Burgworkahhh... work07:05
Burgworkit is killing me07:05
BurgworkI have too many hats07:05
highvoltageBurgwork: the many hats thing is bad, you need to merge your hats and throw some away07:05
BurgworkI wish07:05
Burgworkwe are so bloody disorganized07:06
Burgworkwe == Userfulk07:06
highvoltagemy hats situation is getting more complicated too07:06
highvoltageI'm starting a new job tomorrow and the new company is going to do my old job to the old company (and previous companies I worked for).07:07
highvoltagenot *that* can get quite complicated07:07
Burgworkyeesh07:07
highvoltages/not/now07:07
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a5benwillisping cliebow07:41
a5benwillisWhats the command to regen ssh keys?07:42
a5benwillis.07:52
a5benwillisAnyone usingxdmcp with Edubuntu???????????07:52
cliebowWOOOOOT!07:55
a5benwillisclad you're having a good day cliebow07:55
cliebowa5benwillis, heh got ubuntu running on sparc07:58
cliebowas a server..so far07:59
cliebowbrb07:59
a5benwillisAnyone using xdmcp with Edubuntu???????????08:13
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cbx33ping Burgwork08:20
cbx33ping ogra08:20
Burgworkcbx33: pong08:20
Burgworkno I haven't looked at your chapter, I am doing it tonight08:20
cbx33ok08:20
cbx33debs was asking me twas all :p08:20
cbx33ping LaserJock08:21
LaserJockcbx33!08:21
BurgworkI chatted with her08:21
cbx33Burgwork, ok cool08:22
cbx33how are you LaserJock08:22
a5benwillisAnyone using xdmcp with Edubuntu???????????08:22
Burgworka5benwillis: in what way?08:23
ograa5benwillis, only people that dont want sound or localdev support08:23
ogracbx33, no, mdz didnt have time yet08:23
a5benwillisogra: I REALLY dont want to go xdmcp but I cant get NCP authentication to work with LDM/SSH so I have no choice at least for now.08:24
cbx33ogra, no was gonna ask something else08:24
a5benwillisogra: I'vespent weeks on thessh issue.08:24
a5benwillisand obviously worn out my space bar LOL08:25
ograwell, there is no locqaldev implemenation for xdmcp in ubuntu ... you can wortk around the missing ESPEAKER variable in a user setting though08:25
ograso sound should be possible, but localdev wont work without a fair amount of code changes08:26
a5benwillisI can livewithout localdev fornow I think.08:26
cbx33ogra how are we with time left for tcm08:26
ogradid you file bugs about the issues you had with ssh ?08:26
a5benwillisI wish I could getssh to work for me ideally.08:26
ograi'm sure cjwatson would love to know about them to fix them08:26
a5benwillisI worked a little with Darren Tucker from SSH via email buthe's nowhere near as responsive as you guys are.08:27
ogracbx33, the features we'll ship should be done before beta08:27
ograa5benwillis, cjwatson is our ssh maintainer ... but her's a very busy man, filing bugs will pout such things on his todo08:28
ogra*put08:28
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LaserJockdo we have a meeting?09:04
stelisIt's on now :_09:06
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ograedubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting *now*09:11
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a5benwillisogra: How do I contact jwatson?09:14
a5benwilliserm, cjwatcon09:14
ograa5benwillis, file a bug on openssh ;)09:15
a5benwillis10-409:15
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a5benwillisCan someone point me to some info on how to apply a patch to source via apt-get????09:27
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ograa5benwillis, open your help viewer on the desktop ... look in the packaging guide ;)09:35
LaserJockogra: on feisty you have to install packaging-guide09:47
LaserJockand look at the HTML09:47
LaserJockI gotta get a .desktop for that09:47
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cbx33ogra, /me had to setup a second tftp server today09:56
cbx33as the Intel Boot Agent sux09:56
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Rondomhi juliux10:17
juliuxhi Rondom10:17
cliebowcbx33: is that mba on intel yu refer to?it sucks as well..10:32
cbx33hehe10:32
a5benwillisping ogra10:41
ograa5benwillis, pong10:41
a5benwillisIm working on patching the ssh source10:41
a5benwillisI downloaded thesourceviaapt-get10:42
a5benwillispatched it10:42
a5benwillisnow Im trying to "sudo apt-get --build source openssh-4.3p210:42
a5benwillisbut I get an error "E:Unable to find a source pacckage..."10:42
a5benwillisany idea whatIm doing wrong?10:43
a5benwillisIve tried running the command inside of the sourcedirectory and right outsideof it.10:46
cbx33ogra, ping -> pm10:48
a5benwillisOk I tried "sudo apt-get --build source openssh" and I get a different error.10:49
a5benwillisi'll check back later. ttg10:49
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cbx33nn all11:36
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