[12:14] <alx_> hello
[12:14] <gugu^> HELP to set up my printers
[12:14] <john> i don't remember the command to install the 32bit libs
[12:15] <lee_> its ia32
[12:15] <lee_> I found them on adept
[12:15] <john> there ya go
[12:15] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[12:15] <lee_> installed and ran the game, it got farther in the bootup process but still diddnt play
[12:15] <lee_> it brought a americas army graphic up on my screen
[12:16] <john> gugu^: wait someone will respond, i know nothing about installing canon printers
[12:16] <john> lee any errors?
[12:16] <lee_> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[12:16] <lee_> History:
[12:16] <lee_> Exiting due to error
[12:16] <john> lee
[12:16] <lee_> im gonna take a wild guess... does this have something to do with my videocard/drivers?
[12:16] <gugu^> john: ok
[12:17] <john> glxinfo |grep direct
[12:17] <lee_> lee@Big-Lee:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
[12:17] <lee_> direct rendering: No
[12:17] <lee_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:18] <lee_> John:^^
[12:18] <john> ok thats why
[12:18] <john> what vid card?
[12:18] <lee_> pny nvidia 6800gt AGP
[12:18] <john> ok
[12:19] <john> lee_: wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[12:19] <john> then
[12:19] <john> type the command in console
[12:20] <john> the ^^ command
[12:20] <john> then type
[12:20] <lizardj> hy
[12:20] <john> sudo dpkg -i  envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[12:22] <lizardj> ciao
[12:22] <john> now hit ctrl +alt + f1 to kill your x session then type envy in the shell after you login in console press 1 after install is done, type startx and try running the game
[12:25] <yaccin> !envy
[12:25] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:25] <lee_> John: could you post the last thing over again? it took me to some dos-like black screen and I had to reboot when I pressed ctrl, alt, f1
[12:25] <john> thats what your supposed to be
[12:25] <lee_> oh
[12:25] <john> read this again and remember it
[12:25] <john> now hit ctrl +alt + f1 to kill your x session then type envy in the shell after you login in console press 1 after install is done, type startx and try running the game
[12:25] <john> login after your in text mode
[12:26] <john> type envy after you  login
[12:26] <john> type; envy
[12:26] <john> select option 1
[12:26] <wily> hi all
[12:26] <john> after the install
[12:26] <john> type startx
[12:26] <john> and try running the game again
[12:26] <wily> i've a big compilation error
[12:26] <wily> anyone can help me?
[12:28] <vas> hey whenever I playa file in amarok it says playlist finished and does nothing
[12:28] <john> wily: depends
[12:29] <vas> ?
[12:30] <wily> take a look please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7860/
[12:31] <lee_> John: thank you so much, installed the drivers and the game ran
[12:31] <lee_> but theres no sound
[12:31] <john> wily: this is while making the kernel?
[12:32] <john> oh no modules for kernel
[12:32] <john> lee_: depends on which sound server your using
[12:32] <lee_> I use the onboard sound on my motherboard, do I need to install drivers? I diddnt need to install drivers for my ethernet which is also built in?
[12:32] <john> but you should have sound
[12:32] <lee_> well I get sound when I do something dumb in konsole and it beeps so it should be working
[12:32] <john> lee_: do you have sound when you just play music?
[12:32] <wily> john
[12:32] <john> wily: ?
[12:32] <wily> i'm using a 2.6.17.11
[12:33] <vas> hasnt this happnd to someone else before?
[12:33] <lee_> john: yeah I can play mp3s
[12:33] <john> vas: can't say it did to me
[12:33] <vas> john: I just tried to open a file and it says playlist complete
[12:33] <vas> john: out of the box
[12:33] <john> weird
[12:34] <john> got the latest amarok?
[12:34] <wily> john: there are u?
[12:34] <vas> john: yes, it came with my Kubuntu live CD'
[12:34] <vas> john: tried a few different audio files too
[12:34] <eric> i cant find any good disk imaging software
[12:34] <john> wily: what do you mean?
[12:34] <eric> : /
[12:35] <wily> i don't know what are problem?
[12:35] <john> vas: weird i haven't run into that
[12:35] <wily> i've headers
[12:35] <wily> and sources
[12:35] <john> well i can tell you that the module dvb-firesat.ko isn't created
[12:35] <john> do you need that module?
[12:35] <wily> but i miss some drivers...... firesat.. etcetc
[12:36] <john> lee_: im not sure why there is no sound in the game
[12:36] <john> try and adjust sound settings
[12:36] <john> wily: do you need that driver/module firesat?
[12:36] <wily> yes
[12:37] <neptunepink> when I update, I get windows complaining about incorrect nice values
[12:39] <john> wily the error is ignored
[12:39] <john> so technically the kernel is installed
[12:39] <john> unless you ABSOLUTELY need that module to be built
[12:40] <eric> does anyone know any good disk imaging software???
[12:40] <john> acrons true image
[12:40] <john> acronis :/
[12:40] <eric> its not free...
[12:40] <eric> : P
[12:41] <john> lol
[12:41] <john> thats true
[12:41] <john> :P
[12:45] <eric> yea i cant find anything
[12:45] <john> :?
[12:45] <john> there are ways to make it "free"
[12:45] <eric> haha yea know that
[12:45] <eric> but its usually just one windows
[12:45] <eric> on*
[12:45] <john> yeah.....
[12:45] <xero_> does knetwork manager use dhclient
[12:45] <john> yes
[12:45] <john> i think
[12:45] <john> almost positive
[12:48] <xerroz> hmm that needs to change
[12:48] <eric> someone just sent me a link
[12:48] <eric> ghost for linux
[12:48] <eric> im gonna try that out
[12:48] <eric> http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[12:48] <xerroz> cant find 'dhclient' anywhere in the source..
[12:48] <xerroz> hmm
[12:49] <posingaspopular> whats the command to get firefox in the konsole?
[12:49] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install firefox?
[12:49] <john> i think
[12:49] <posingaspopular> john: let me try
[12:49] <john> it or mozilla-firefox
[12:49] <Morbo> Try that.  It might be mozillla-firefox
[12:50] <Morbo> er, what john said
[12:53] <posingaspopular> john: mozilla firefox sounds more right
[12:53] <posingaspopular> i finally got off that GNOME garbage
[12:53] <Morbo> apt-cache search foo is useful
[12:53] <posingaspopular> was running a live cd for like 2 weeks
[12:53] <posingaspopular> and now im installing kubuntu over the old ubuntu partition
[12:53] <Morbo> Welcome to the light side, my friend ;)
[12:53] <posingaspopular> Morbo: welcome BACK to the light side
[12:53] <john> lol, i love gnome, just not enough integration for my taste
[12:53] <Morbo> Whatever :p
[12:53] <Morbo> I mostly like KDE for the control
[12:53] <posingaspopular> Morbo: its still great to be on kde again
[12:53] <posingaspopular> how do you do apt-cache
[12:53] <Morbo> Just from konsole
[12:53] <Morbo> apt-cache search foobar where foobar is a package name / description to look for
[12:53] <john> sudo apt-cache search foo
[12:53] <Dekans> posingaspopular: why not install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:53] <Morbo> sudo isn't necessary for searches
[12:53] <posingaspopular> Dekans: i didnt have enough space
[12:53] <xerroz> is dhclient somehow to be the default?
[12:53] <john> xerroz: as far as i know yes, cause dhcpcd doesn't exist in konsole
[12:54] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[12:54] <xerroz> O.o
[12:54] <xerroz> 'in konsole'
[12:54] <bomber> how can i tell which ver of kubuntu i have?
[12:54] <Jucato> !version | bomber
[12:54] <ubotu> bomber: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:54] <john> xerroz: if you do dhcpcd in konsole the command doesn't exist even under sudo so dhcpclient has to be the default
[12:55] <bomber> !version
[12:55] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:55] <bomber> woops
[12:59] <xerroz> how long have you been using linux John?
[12:59] <posingaspopular> Jucato: thanks
[12:59] <john> 2 or 3 years i don't remember
[12:59] <xerroz> Ah, I see
[12:59] <posingaspopular> Jucato: now if you can fix girls to do as i want, i'll be set. kthanksbye
[12:59] <john> dhcpcd used to be the old method of aquiring addresses, dhcpclient is the new method
[12:59] <Jucato> posingaspopular: sure. kickbanbye :)
[12:59] <xerroz> 'dhclient'
[12:59] <john> yeah :P
[12:59] <john> lol
[12:59] <bomber> Jucato:  version not found
[12:59] <posingaspopular> that'll work to
[12:59] <Morbo> ah, katapult
[12:59] <Morbo> So sexy.
[12:59] <Jucato> bomber: did you enter "lsb_release -a"?
[12:59] <bomber> no
[12:59] <Jucato> bomber: then you didn't follow the instructions the bot gave
[12:59] <Jucato>  <ubotu> bomber: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:59] <xerroz> bomber: in a terminal type lsb, hit tab, and complete with -a
[12:59] <bomber> ok... dapper is old?
[12:59] <Jucato> it's not *that* old... but it's LTS
[12:59] <Jucato> !lts
[12:59] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:59] <Morbo> Edgy is the latest, but Dapper is the "more stable" one
[12:59] <bomber> ahhh ok
[01:00] <xerroz> and feisty is for those of us who enjoy torture
[01:00] <Morbo> I never noticed any stability issues in Edgy
[01:00] <bomber> i was trying to get a tv card working and had no luck... i was wondering if a newer kernel would do the trick
[01:00] <Morbo> bomber- What kind?
[01:00] <lee_> does anyone know why sound wouldnt work in americas army?
[01:00] <bomber> bt878
[01:01] <Morbo> Do you know what driver that uses?
[01:05] <Morbo> v4l or ivtv or something else?
[01:05] <Morbo> bomber- /\
[01:05] <bomber> v4l-dvb
[01:05] <Morbo> ooh, dvb
[01:05] <john> lee_: google it only thing i can think of
[01:05] <Morbo> I've been considering getting a card from pchdtv as soon as I pick up some extra cash
[01:05] <bomber> im in the linuxtv channel and we tryed for a couple hours with no luck
[01:05] <Morbo> Ouch.
[01:05] <waspius> hello can someone tell me how i can make my usb devices mount automaticaly?
[01:05] <Morbo> Oh sweet.  Feisty has ivtv drivers oout of the box.
[01:05] <Morbo> <3
[01:05] <bomber> what about v4l?
[01:06] <zen-soto> !mark
[01:06] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[01:06] <Morbo> Isn't v4l part of the kernel now?
[01:09] <yamen_> why cannot i connect to wpa wireless network using Knetworkmanager ?
[01:09] <yamen_> it stops at 28%
[01:09] <yamen_> aby ideas ?
[01:09] <yamen_> *any
[01:10] <Minataku> yamen_: Check dmesg > dmesg | less
[01:10] <Minataku> Then start looking around the bottom since the top is all from bootup
[01:10] <yamen_> ummm... sory im newbie with all that
[01:11] <Minataku> You can paste the whole thing to a pastebin then and I'll look over it for you
[01:11] <Jucato> tail?
[01:11] <yamen_> how to do that ? :)
[01:11] <Minataku> Jucato: I was erring on the side of caution
[01:11] <Jucato> yep
[01:11] <Jucato> anyway....
[01:11] <Minataku> yamen_: Well, to give me the last 10 lines, in a terminal type "dmesg | tail"
[01:12] <Minataku> Then highlight it and put it into the pastebin
[01:12] <Minataku> !pastebin | yamen_
[01:12] <ubotu> yamen_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:12] <Minataku> Jucato: Wait
[01:12] <Minataku> Guess what
[01:12] <gokuh> hi guys
[01:12] <Minataku> Aw, he's gone already
[01:13] <zen-soto> hi jucato
[01:13] <Morbo> What?
[01:13] <Minataku> lol
[01:13] <Minataku> Heya, Morbo
[01:13] <Morbo> hey
[01:13] <Minataku> Finally, on my 7th attempt... a working Debian install
[01:14] <Morbo> I'm much too lazy to install Debian.
[01:14] <Minataku> Mahoro, my P1MMX-166 is running Debian 4.0
[01:14] <gokuh> i need a litle help here =S, someone know, why i can't keep my configuration on kde? =S
[01:15] <premier_> I just blasted my laptop's fans with compressed air, and then I restarted my computer, and when I restarted, the thing ran a disk check
[01:15] <premier_> It said "/dev/sda3 has been mounted 30 times without a check, check forced"  Is that normal?
[01:16] <Morbo> It's a routine check
[01:16] <Minataku> premier_: Perfectly normal
[01:17] <Minataku> It's preventative maintenance
[01:17] <Minataku> Mine never hits the mount limit
[01:17] <premier_> oh I see
[01:17] <Minataku> It always trips the time limit instead
[01:17] <Minataku> Which is around 180d
[01:17] <Minataku> In fact, Piyoko is probably due for another check soon
[01:17] <Minataku> lol
[01:17] <Morbo> What's Piyoko?
[01:17] <Morbo> As in, where'd the name come from?
[01:18] <premier_> It just scared the s*** out of me, because when I booted it up, grub gave me a prompt.  I think I just pressed the wrong button though.
[01:18] <Minataku> Di Gi Charat
[01:18] <Minataku> premier_: Heehee, calm down ^^
[01:18] <premier_> well, my computer is running about 15C cooler now, glad I did that
[01:18] <Minataku> Indeed
[01:18] <Morbo> Nice
[01:19] <Morbo> My hostnames are a bit arbitrary
[01:19] <Minataku> Cleaning is very good
[01:19] <Morbo> No unifying theme, etc
[01:19] <Minataku> Morbo: Mine are all anime characters
[01:19] <premier_> Minataku: is it safe to unscrew the devices on the bottom of my laptop and blast them with compressed air?
 Morbo: Mine are all anime characters <-- I would have never guess that [/sarcasm]  :D
[01:19] <Morbo> premier_- It could void your warranty
[01:20] <Minataku> premier_: I have to unscrew the panels on the bottom of Piyoko to blast the dust out
[01:20] <Morbo> laptop = zoidberg, desktop = feynman, router = serenity
[01:20] <house> can someone help me get gtkpod to see my ipod I have googled it and there are multiple conflicting guides
[01:20] <premier_> hmmm...
[01:21] <Morbo> the dedicated mythtv box I'll build sometime soon will be Navras, NAS will be Mjolnir
[01:21] <premier_> Now my temperature is way up in the rafters again
[01:21] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[01:21] <Minataku> I have: Piyoko, Ryoko, Hazuki, Mahoro, Minataku, Sasuke, Dejiko, Komugi, Koyori, Haruko, Usada and a couple with no names
[01:22] <premier_> It think I might have broke the fan.  It was really hot when I first booted it, and then It came back down to 34 (never been that low before) and now its up to the 60s, no load
[01:22] <Jucato> Minataku-san! Minataku-san!!
[01:22] <Minataku> lol
[01:22] <Minataku> Another Di Gi Charat character
[01:22] <Minataku> Minagawa Takuro I believe is his real name
[01:23] <Jucato> :D
[01:23] <Jucato> going away now... you guys behave :P
[01:23] <Minataku> lol
[01:23] <Minataku> I'll try
[01:23] <premier_> Now its coming back down. I think my fans are going in and out
[01:23] <Minataku> premier_: It's a laptop, it has that stupid battery-saving crap cooling
[01:24] <Minataku> Turns the fans on and off every 10 seconds
[01:24] <premier_> oh, okay
[01:24] <Minataku> premier_: What kind of laptop?
[01:24] <premier_> I just dont like it when my temp meter reads 69C.  Not one bit
[01:24] <premier_> Dell E1705, aka 9600
[01:24] <Minataku> Figures
[01:24] <house> has anyone ever used gtkpod with kubuntu?
[01:25] <Minataku> Get a Toshiba next time
[01:25] <Minataku> Can't go wrong with Toshiba
[01:25] <premier_> What is it with Toshibas?
[01:25] <premier_> Anyway, Im gonna build my own computer
[01:25] <Minataku> That list up there, 4 of them are Toshibas
[01:25] <Minataku> From 1987 up to 2003
[01:25] <Minataku> All in perfect working condition
[01:26] <premier_> lol.  Do you know whats a good video card?  The newer ATI cards (like the one Im using) have a lot of trouble with linux, but Ive heard bad things about nVidia too
[01:27] <Minataku> Until we get word that AMD turns ATI around, nVidia. Period.
[01:28] <premier_> Any particular nVidia?
[01:28] <Minataku> nVidia used to be poor, but they actually care about Linux users nowadays
[01:28] <Minataku> ATI barely gives a rat's ass about us
[01:30] <house> how can I see what kernel i am using?
[01:31] <Minataku> house: uname -a
[01:31] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko 2.6.19.1-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 20 23:21:32 EST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[01:31] <acr> hello. I'm going to be buying a tv tuner card for use with mythtv and ubuntu soon and I was wondering if anybody knew of any cardbus tuner cards with hardware decoders supported by linux
[01:31] <Minataku> It'll be that third value
[01:32] <Minataku> After "Linux" and your system's node name
[01:34] <jose> hello
[01:35] <acr> hello jose
[01:35] <jose> how can i install themes en kubuntu?
[01:35] <premier_> Minataku: or anyone whos listening: I have an external hard drive.  When I try to delete files from it, it puts it in a trash folder that I cant empty.  How do I fix that?
[01:35] <house> I am trying to get my ipod working with gtkpod, the read me says to edit /etc/udev/udev.rules
[01:35] <acr> jose: I think it depends on the theme, but in general you have to download the source code and follow the instructions in the INSTALL file. What theme did you have in mind?
[01:36] <house> and Idont have that file
[01:36] <Minataku> premier_: I delete things from the command line
[01:36] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[01:36] <jose> say VistaGo.kth
[01:36] <Minataku> premier_: So unfortunately I can't help you with that
[01:36] <jose> is GTK
[01:37] <Ingmar^> how do I get the default kubuntu theme back ?
[01:37] <acr> jose: can you link me to it? I don't think you can install gtk themes for kubuntu. Maybe you can make gtk applications look that way, but I don't think it'll work for kde applications
[01:38] <acr> Ingmar^: the default kubuntu theme is Plastik
[01:38] <premier_> Minataku: I think my usb bus just lost power or something.  my usb mouse wont respond, and the little green light wont go on, and neither will my jump drive.  This happens all the time
[01:38] <acr> Ingmar^: go to System Settings > Style and choose plastik
[01:38] <Minataku> premier_: Check dmesg for anything
[01:39] <Minataku> dmesg | tail should show something in that case
[01:39] <acr> Ingmar^: the default window decoration, if you want to change that back as well, is Crystal, but I'm not 100% sure on that one
[01:39] <premier_> yeah, can I paste bin it?
[01:40] <Minataku> premier_: Be my guest
[01:40] <lotus> hi
[01:41] <acr> hello. I'm going to be buying a tv tuner card for use with mythtv and ubuntu soon and I was wondering if anybody knew of any cardbus tuner cards with hardware decoders supported by linux. If not, is there anywhere I can find cardbus tv tuner cards for linux. They mythtv site doesn't have any listed as far as I can tell
[01:41] <acr> hi lotus
[01:41] <premier_> http://pastebin.ca/375106
[01:41] <Ingmar^> acr: thanks, that seems to work
[01:41] <lotus> I am a linux beginner, and I have troubles with installing the proper driver for my graphik card
[01:41] <acr> Ingmar^: my pleasure :-)
[01:41] <Ingmar^> acr: can you tell me how I reset the kicker settings too ?
[01:41] <lotus> It is a S3 Savage Card
[01:42] <acr> Ingmar^: what settings are messed up?
[01:42] <Ingmar^> the problem is that I installed another distro, that overwrote most of my config files at ~/.kde (mail is still there etc, else I'd just delete the folder
[01:42] <acr> Ingmar^: as far as I know, if you right-click on it and go to configure panel most of the options are there
[01:42] <Minataku> premier_: Hm... no clues in there
[01:43] <premier_> damn.
[01:43] <acr> ingmar^: what specifically do you want to change?
[01:43] <Minataku> Probably just the usual Dell wuality
[01:43] <premier_> sorry language
[01:43] <Minataku> Damn is fine
[01:43] <Minataku> At least it damn well better be
[01:43] <Minataku> lol
[01:43] <premier_> Minataku: Is there anything I can do besides power-cycling?
[01:43] <Minataku> I'm not gonna fix that typo because it works that much better when it's "Dell wuality"
[01:43] <Minataku> XD
[01:44] <Ingmar^> acr: kicker is totally empty, no programicon's appear there, no menu, no clock, no nothing
[01:44] <house> can someone please please help me get my ipod working with gtkpod?
[01:44] <Minataku> premier_: No clue, to be honest, sorry
[01:44] <acr> lotus:
[01:44] <lotus> is there a good tutorial howto install graphik drivers for S3?
[01:44] <acr> Ingmar^: oh, right click and go to 'Add applet to panel'
[01:44] <Minataku> house: I'd help, but I don't know >.<
[01:44] <sc0tch> Question: With Linux-headers package installed, I see it has headers for ALL sorts of processeors (arm, mips,v850..on an on), if I am only compiling for i386 is there a safe way to prune all those extra files out?
[01:44] <acr> most of the stuff is there
[01:44] <premier_> Minataku: I was thinking of how walus, a, um means something in latin (bad i think)
[01:44] <Ingmar^> acr: that's it, thanks
[01:45] <Minataku> premier_: Ah... I just hit the wrong key, then I thought of an old Dilbert comic strip
[01:45] <acr> lotus: it looks like the package for that card is 'xserver-xorg-video-savage'
[01:45] <Minataku> Where they made keyboards without the letter "Q"
[01:45] <acr> lotus: if you install that, then change your driver to 'savage' (I think), it should work
[01:45] <acr> Ingmar^: no problem. You don't happen to know about cardbus tv tuners on linux, do you?
[01:46] <Ingmar^> acr: afraid not :( pity I can't help you back
[01:46] <acr> lotus: I'm not entirely sure, I've never dealt with that card, just my nvidia
[01:46] <Minataku> Then Dilbert is like "The Q stands for uality"
[01:46] <Minataku> XD
[01:47] <acr> Ingmar^: oh well. I'm glad I could help you. That's not often the case. Is there anything else I can do for you?
[01:47] <jack> hi how can i enable to send text messages from the linux skype version?
[01:47] <Ingmar^> acr: that should be it, thank you very much :)
[01:47] <acr> Ingmar^: welcome
[01:48] <acr> does anybody know anything about cardbus tv tuner cards on linux?
[01:48] <Minataku> Sorry, not a clue
[01:49] <acr> Minataku: :-( I haven't been able to find anything, even on the mythtv site. And manufacturers don't list whether or not they support linux. Except for happuage, I'm not sure if anybody does, and I don't see any cardbus cards from them
[01:51] <house> in the gtkpod readme it says to make this file and save as /etc/udev/rules  BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="iPod            ", KERNEL="sd?2", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="ipod"
[01:51] <house> is that an example or is that how i should put it
[01:51] <house> exactly
[01:52] <Minataku> Even I've never touched udev so far
[01:52] <house> AAAARRRGGGHHHHH
[01:52] <Minataku> Sorry >.<
[01:52] <house> I just want to use my ipod in linux
[01:52] <house> it is very frustrating
[01:52] <Minataku> house: Hang around here for a bit
[01:52] <house> K
[01:52] <Minataku> Someone should show up sooner or later who can help you out
[01:53] <acr> this might be a dumb question, but are there usually extra pci(e) slots in a laptop?
[01:53] <Morbo> No.
[01:53] <Morbo> Well, PCMCIA slots yeah
[01:53] <Morbo> And whatever the PCI(e) equivalent is
[01:54] <Minataku> acr: Not since laptops were the size of a desktop and weighed 15lbs
[01:54] <Morbo> It might have a MiniPCI slot, but that's probably in use by the network card
[01:54] <Minataku> And even then the card slot was half-size
[01:54] <acr> so if I wanted to install a tv tuner card internally, it would have be a cardbus card?
[01:54] <Minataku> MiniPCI perhaps, yeah, I forgot about that
[01:54] <Minataku> acr: Depends
[01:54] <Minataku> Whether or not there is a free MiniPCI slot or not
[01:57] <flake> remind me never to compile koffice from scratch again, took well over 1 hour
[01:58] <slyfox> Has anyone managed to sync their phone with their Kontact? Because of this small but crucial issue, I am thinking of going Windows and leaving Linux, which I really do not want to do. :-(
[01:58] <Minataku> flake: Wimp >.>
[01:58] <flake> lol
[01:58] <Minataku> Sorry XD
[01:58] <Minataku> Compile time means long break
[01:58] <Minataku> :D
[01:58] <Minataku> Set things in motion, take a nap
[01:59] <acr> I just found a card reader on my laptop. I put my cameras sd card in and everything's fine, but is there a way to set digikam up to get pictures from it just like it does from the camera itself?
[02:00] <flake> the anticipation was painful
[02:00] <Minataku> lol
[02:04] <flake> koffice 1.6.3pre - not lookin too bad
[02:05] <lotusleaf> lotus_: who are you?
[02:06] <house> has anyone here used gtkpod?
[02:08] <jack_> could anyone help me how to send texts from linux skype or from linux in general?
[02:09] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:10] <bordy> Anyone know how to fix an apparent problem with X?
[02:10] <house> does anybody here use their ipod with kubuntu?
[02:11] <Adydas> bordy: what problem
[02:11] <Adydas> house: i hear amaroks good for working with ipods
[02:11] <Adydas> i have it but aint tryed it
[02:12] <jmichaelx> i have never been able to get amarok to transfer files onto  my ipod video
[02:13] <bordy> Adydas: Flock opens and closes right away, and debugging is showing some sort of X error
[02:13] <Adydas> bordy: whats your log say, any clues there?
[02:14] <Adydas> look /var/log/Xorg.0.log ib elive
[02:14] <bordy> Adydas: I am looking through it now, but NO clue. lol
[02:14] <Adydas> look for (EE)
[02:14] <Adydas> as that indicates an error, that would be my best starting point
[02:15] <bordy> I see them down at the bottom, alot of "no such file or directory"
[02:16] <acr> what's exiv2?
[02:17] <gugu^> HELP to install my Canon LBP-810
[02:17] <epimeth> ahoy!
[02:17] <bordy> Adydas: Any ideas?
[02:18] <dx11101> hello, i need more sata ports on my computer, does anyone know of a sata card that is compatible with linux?
[02:18] <epimeth> anybody know the status of the auto codec downloading thing for feisty?
[02:18] <Adydas> bordy:
[02:18] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:18] <Adydas> !paste
[02:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:19] <Adydas> bordy: paste both the xorg.conf and the log into that if i cant im sure somone can help you
[02:20] <bordy> Adydas: the log is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7876/
[02:21] <Adydas> bordy: you sure x is installed?
[02:21] <bordy> not at all
[02:21] <Adydas> im not sure, but those " no fonts folder " errors seem to tell me its not installed
[02:21] <Adydas> hence why it cant load the stuff it needs
[02:21] <bordy> I am only guessing that since this is what happened last time this happened to me (but that was when I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.10)
[02:22] <jmichaelx> :-(
[02:24] <jack_> how can i send text messages from ubuntu as there seems to be no feature to do it from skype?
[02:24] <Adydas> do you have an xorg.conf file?
[02:24] <bordy> %c2Adydas: I did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati and it said it is already the newest version
[02:24] <bordy> oops on the format
[02:24] <house> anyone here know how to get gtkpod working?
[02:26] <Adydas> im guessing you should need this xserver-xorg-core
[02:26] <Adydas> check thats there.. i just hope my guess on thats accurate
[02:26] <Adydas> well firstly
[02:26] <Adydas> do you have a /etc/X11 folder?
[02:26] <Adydas> and in there is there a conf file?
[02:26] <bordy> yes
[02:27] <Adydas> ok that answers that
[02:27] <Adydas> did it work before you did the drivers for ati?
[02:27] <Adydas> or has it never worked?
[02:27] <bordy> everything works except Flock. when i upgraded ubuntu before i switched over, this problem happened with firefox and flock, but this time just flock
[02:27] <bordy> not even positive it is an X issue
[02:27] <phil_> was wondering if there's an easy way to get kubuntu up & running on an SGI 540
[02:27] <bordy> but it seems the most likely
[02:28] <dx11101> anyone know a cheap sata controller that will work in linux
[02:29] <shriphani> guys i am using kubuntu 6.06. what package should i download that will give me the ruby header files
[02:29] <bordy> Adydas: xorg.conf is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7878/
[02:35] <CShadowRun> whats the command to install kubuntu ? (im using normal ubuntu now)
[02:36] <shriphani> CShadowRun: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <CShadowRun> thanks :)
[02:36] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:39] <gugu^> HELP to install  Canon LBP-810 printer
[02:41] <jmichaelx> the mistake i made (i think) was going into adept, telling it to uninstall sun-java5-*, and then telling it to install sun-java6-*
[02:43] <acr> dumb question; pci isn't the same thing as pcmcia, right? But PC Card, cardbus and pcmcia are all the same?
[02:44] <dx11101> PCI is not the same
[02:44] <acr> and are the rest of them all equivelant?
[02:44] <dx11101> i am not sure, i dont use laptops much
[02:44] <jack_> how can i enable a tag button in the konqueror just like in windows for the firefox using delicious?
[02:44] <dx11101> here
[02:45] <dx11101> "In computing, PC card (originally PCMCIA card) i"
[02:46] <dx11101> Cardbus is PCMCIA 5.0 or later
[02:47] <acr> but they all use the same slot?
[02:47] <dx11101> i dont think so
[02:47] <dx11101> mostly type II which is common to all laptops right now
[02:47] <dx11101> whats the problem?
[02:48] <dx11101> arc
[02:48] <dx11101> just read this page and then see if you have questions
[02:48] <acr> I'm looking for a tv tuner card that will fit into the slot on my laptop, which is a pc card slot
[02:48] <dx11101> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia
[02:49] <dx11101> now what i need is info on sata controller cards in linux
[02:51] <cesarmat> hola
[02:51] <dx11101> hola senior
[02:51] <cesarmat> alguien sabe codificar videos de avia mpeg_
[02:51] <CShadowRun> hmm with installing xgl and beryl
[02:52] <CShadowRun> are they 2 seperate applications, do i have to install them in a specific order?
[02:54] <boitono> I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[02:59] <boitono> Hello!?
[03:00] <norbert> using a Feisty Herd-4 alternative cd, will I be able to install the system w/o corrupting my /home data? System is currently running with 2 raids: / and /home
[03:00] <cesarmat> how can convert avi to mpeg video files
[03:00] <cesarmat> HOW
[03:01] <norbert> More specifically, should I let feisty know about the /home during install. Or should I just manually set it up afterwards?
[03:01] <dx11101> i think linux is COOOL!
[03:02] <Darkkish> norbert i don't have much linux experience but, if i were you, i'd manually set it up after its installed
[03:02] <Darkkish> logically there is less chance of failure
[03:02] <cesarmat> if you set it up manually in a different partition
[03:02] <vblanton> hello, is anyone else having issues with the new kde4 beta 3 packages?
[03:03] <cesarmat> you can format your so partition without losing your HOME files
[03:03] <andz> hi, can anyone help me configure my audio system? I have 2 sound boards installed
[03:03] <cesarmat> i think...
[03:03] <dx11101> newegg pisses me off, they dont have any molex to sata power adapterS!!!!!!!!!
[03:03] <jhutchins> cesarmat: mplayer/mencoder, ffmpeg, avidemux is a nice GUI.
[03:03] <vblanton> dx11101, amazon or ebay?
[03:03] <jhutchins> Cinellera
[03:03] <cristian> hola chicos tengo una pregunta que hacerles.. alguien sabe como hacer que no me muestre en un escritorio en la barra de tareas las ventanas que tengo abiertas en otra ventana??
[03:03] <cesarmat> thanx...
[03:03] <jhutchins> dx11101: pricewatch.com
[03:04] <dx11101> maybe my search parameters are bad
[03:04] <jhutchins> cesarmat: Lots of good stuff about transcoding in linux on google.
[03:04] <vblanton> andz, sorry don't know much on configuring two cards, but have you tried working with the sound setup utility available in the control panel?
[03:04] <Jucato> !es | cristian
[03:04] <ubotu> cristian: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:04] <dx11101> ever since i started working and had lots of money i never looked at pricewatch again lol
[03:04] <vblanton> andz, also, you can try looking in the ubuntu wiki or forums
[03:04] <andz> thanks VBLANTON, Ide like to switch the main audio that Kubuntu chose.
[03:05] <jhutchins> andz: I'd recommend disabling one and getting the other working first.  Do you need both to be availble?
[03:05] <vblanton> hello, is anyone else having issues with the new kde4 beta 3 packages?
[03:05] <norbert> Darkkish: can't argue with that logic. ;-)  I was just curious, because I remember a "don't format" button on the installer. On the other hand, I wonder if I'll have to jump many loops to get an existing raid recognized by the new system
[03:05] <andz> it chose the onboeard, but Id like to use the other one, that is second on the row
[03:05] <jhutchins> norbert: Look around and make sure the RAID controller's supported in Linux.
[03:05] <Jucato> vblanton: aside from it being a "for developers' only" preview?
[03:05] <vblanton> Jucato, no, it doesn't even install
[03:06] <vblanton> Jucato, that is, yes
[03:06] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[03:06] <norbert> jhutchins: it's a software Linux RAID. I'm just formatting the /root and installing feisty on it
[03:06] <andz> actually, id even prefere that the onboard sound card is disabled because i dont like it
[03:06] <jhutchins> vblanton: I would hope people are having issues with it.  That's the only reason it's available, so people can find and report problems.
[03:06] <vblanton> Jucato, on package is trying to overwrite another and there is breakage
[03:06] <vblanton> no, it's a packaging issue
[03:06] <jhutchins> norbert: Oh.  I stay away from software raid.
[03:06] <Jucato> vblanton: try asking in #kubuntu-devel but you better be prepared to answer "Why are you installing it?"
[03:07] <jhutchins> vblanton: Or ask in #kde, where you'll be told to run subversion or 3.5.6.
[03:07] <Jucato> jmichaelx: try this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:07] <Jucato> jhutchins: er, he musn't ask that in #kde
[03:08] <jhutchins> Yeah, they don't like questions regarding binary packages.
[03:08] <Jucato> yes, because KDE doesn't provide binary packages
[03:08] <boitono> I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[03:08] <Jucato> and he'll only be told that the snapshots are useless to a non-developer
[03:08] <Jucato> which is also true
[03:09] <andz> thank you for the help
[03:09] <vblanton> jhutchins, Jucato, Im trying to say that the error is kubuntu's not kde's. the packages weren't made correctly!
[03:09] <Jucato> vblanton: I know. I was talking to jhutchins for the latter part
[03:09] <CShadowRun> hmm, just installing kubuntu
[03:09] <vblanton> why are you both assuming that I'm not helping out with KDE4?
[03:09] <Jucato> vblanton: that's why I told you to ask in #kubuntu-devel, as they are the ones making the binary packages
[03:10] <dx11101> newegg is a shipping RIPOFF
[03:10] <jmichaelx> Jucato: does not help
[03:10] <CShadowRun> it says "General type of configuration?" No configuration | Internet Site | Internet with smarthost | Satallite system | Local only
[03:10] <vblanton> Jucato, thanks, im waiting for a response there
[03:10] <jhutchins> vblanton: It remains that the only reason the packages are available is so that you can find these problems and report them.  Nobody expects you to be able to have a stable working environment with kde4.
[03:10] <CShadowRun> what should i choose? im useing adsl, via a router for my internet
[03:10] <vblanton> jhutchins, i don't think you understand, but thanks for your help anyway
[03:10] <cesarmat> why when i scroll down any page, in any program like firefox, openoffice, etc... it isnt smooth
[03:11] <cesarmat> it gets slow...
[03:11] <jhutchins> Chousuke: Go with local.
[03:11] <jhutchins> er. CShadowRun
[03:11] <Jucato> vblanton: I didn't assume. I am merely telling you to be prepared to answer the "why are you installing it?" question. you also have to understand that there are many, many users trying to install it for the sole purpose of curiousity
[03:11] <CShadowRun> [jhutchins-> ?
[03:11] <jmichaelx> i wish i knew what the "broken pipe" thing was about
[03:11] <boitono> I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[03:11] <jhutchins> CShadowRun: Go with "local".
[03:11] <CShadowRun> [jhutchins-> thanks :)
[03:11] <Jucato> jmichaelx: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[03:11] <vblanton> you can set smooth scrolling in firefox, CShadowRun . the option is in the advanced part of the config options (i think)
[03:11] <dx11101> okay
[03:11] <cesarmat> i did, but its the same
[03:12] <dx11101> i will now go from 1.5TB to 2TB
[03:12] <jhutchins> jmichaelx: http://www.google.com/search?q=broken+pipe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[03:12] <guiden> seriously, what should I do, I can't play avi movie files
[03:12] <vblanton> Jucato, which is fine as well. curiosity is how a lot of people start helping out a project!
[03:12] <jhutchins> guiden: 1) install mplayer
[03:12] <boitono> NEED SOME DAMN PLEASE :-)   I'm getting an X with in a circle as a pointer when hovering over the launcher panel, how can I change that?
[03:12] <dx11101> guiden
[03:12] <dx11101> apt-get install mplayer
[03:12] <jhutchins> !mp3 | guiden
[03:12] <ubotu> guiden: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:12] <guiden> I have kaffiene
[03:12] <dx11101> kaffiene sux
[03:13] <vblanton> kaffiene rox
[03:13] <jhutchins> guiden: Which is why you can't play avi files.  Install mplayer.
[03:13] <Jucato> vblanton: true, but not w/ current KDE 4 snapshots. as it will take more than "I want to see what KDE 4 *looks* like, which is currently nothing but a broken KDE 3 in terms of appearance
[03:13] <vblanton> 0.8 was a great improvement!
[03:13] <vblanton> Jucato, that is true :)
[03:13] <guiden> can I play avi files in kaffiene after I downloaded mplayer?
[03:13] <vblanton> well.. i've recieved no response in kubuntu-devel.. trying the bug tracker
[03:13] <dx11101> maybe the AVI files hes trying to play are propriatary
[03:13] <dx11101> like DIVX or something
[03:13] <Jucato> !patience | vblanton
[03:13] <ubotu> vblanton: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:13] <vblanton> guiden, check restricted formats, that will set you up completely
[03:14] <vblanton> !restrictedformats
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <jhutchins> guiden: Have a look at those three pages, but I think you'll find it's easier to get mplayer working than to get kaffeine working.
[03:14] <jack_> hi, the delicious submenu from koquerorer doesnt really work, can anyone recommend how to work with delicious and konq.?
[03:14] <guiden> ok
[03:14] <jack_> is there a way to send text messages from kubuntu? skype has this feature not enabled?
[03:14] <jhutchins> jack_: Um, yeah, use firefox.
[03:14] <guiden> does mplayer have a gui?
[03:14] <jmichaelx> hmm, i can't figure any of this out
[03:14] <vblanton> jack_, check forums, that kind of stuff is discussed there more so
[03:14] <Jucato> guiden: yes
[03:14] <jhutchins> jack_: It's a known broken, it doesn't _really_ work right in anything but IE on Windows.
[03:14] <Jucato> jack_: there are some apps from http://kde-apps.org for del.icio.us... but the one I'm using needs to be compiled
[03:15] <vblanton> jack_, kopete is an instant message client
[03:15] <vblanton> jack_, or you can install gaim, which I like best :)
[03:15] <jhutchins> guiden: Yes, mplayer-gui and kmplayer.
[03:15] <guiden> ok
[03:15] <Jucato> guiden: you can make Kaffeine use mplayer as its backend instead of xine engine, if you have mplayer installed
[03:16] <guiden> ok
[03:16] <jhutchins> A "broken pipe" basically either means that the sending program didn't send anything, or more likely the program it's piped to didn't accept or receive it.
[03:16] <jhutchins> jmichaelx: A "broken pipe" basically either means that the sending program didn't send anything, or more likely the program it's piped to didn't accept or receive it.
[03:17] <jhutchins> guiden: I can't help you fix kaffeine, because for me it's always been broken in one way or another and I don't bother to spend time with it anymore since mplayer is so powerful.
[03:17] <Jucato> jmichaelx: did you try the last command I gave you? sudo apt-get -f install?
[03:17] <jhutchins> guiden: The other player is VLC, which is even less broken than mplayer, but does some different things.
[03:17] <Jucato> guiden: what seems to be the problem w/ kaffeine?
[03:18] <guiden> I can't play avi, but does mplayer support restricted format out of the box? I can't play mp3 either in amarok
[03:19] <Jucato> guiden: you just need to install "libxine-extracodecs" from the "multiverse" repository, and you're done
[03:19] <jhutchins> guiden: Ok, now I know you haven't read any of the three pages we sent you links to.
[03:19] <hatta> how is mplayer broken?
[03:19] <jhutchins> Jucato: w32codecs?
[03:19] <guiden> I will
[03:19] <Jucato> guiden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[03:19] <Darkkish> what the hell
[03:19] <Darkkish> did i just hop?
[03:19] <test34> Hhow can I instal MD5 ?
[03:19] <Jucato> jhutchins: not for avi and mp3. w32codecs = wma/wmv, and rm
[03:19] <jmichaelx> Jucato: yes.... i tried both of those commands, and neither helped
[03:20] <jhutchins> Jucato: I loose track.
[03:20] <Jucato> test34: the command is "md5sum" and is installed by default
[03:20] <Jucato> jmichaelx: what command are you using to install sun java?
[03:20] <Jucato> jhutchins: don't worry, you're in good company :D
[03:21] <test34> Jucato, Couldn't find package md5sum
[03:21] <jhutchins> !find md5sum
[03:21] <Jucato> test34: it's not a separate package.
[03:21] <ubotu> File md5sum found in afterstep, atlc, autofs, coreutils, gconf2-common (and 15 others)
[03:21] <jmichaelx> Jucato: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin
[03:21] <Jucato> er?
[03:21] <jack_> hi, the delicious submenu from koquerorer doesnt really work, can anyone recommend how to work with delicious and konq.?
[03:21] <Jucato> jmichaelx: remove either sun-java6-jre or sun-java6-bin from that line
[03:21] <jack_> is there a way to send text messages from kubuntu? skype has this feature not enabled?
[03:22] <guiden> lol why don't they release a new iso that specifically says that this contains propitary programs?
[03:22] <Jucato> jmichaelx: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin
[03:22] <Jucato> guiden: if you read the pages, you'd know
[03:22] <jack_> jucato can you help?
[03:22] <jmichaelx> Jucato: why is that??
[03:22] <Jucato> jack_: sorry, no idea
[03:22] <test34> jucato, the ./configure of this program can't find MD5.. maybe its a bug in this program
[03:23] <Jucato> jmichaelx: sun-java6-bin will install sun-java6-jre. sun-java6-jre will install sun-java6-bin... having them both on one command just might be causing trouble... just might.. not sure
[03:23] <jmichaelx> Jucato: ok, will try that
[03:23] <Jucato> test34: hm.. what program are you trying to compile?
[03:24] <test34> Jucato, ZoneMinder
[03:24] <Jucato> hm..
[03:24] <Jucato> must be a different thing...
[03:25] <jmichaelx> Jucato: no, that did not help
[03:25] <Jucato> hm...
[03:25] <Jucato> jhutchins: any ideas about jmichaelx's problem?
[03:25] <jack_> is there a way to send text messages from kubuntu? skype has this feature not enabled?
[03:25] <test34> Jucato, I get zm requires openssl/md5.h
[03:26] <jack_>  hi, the delicious submenu from koquerorer doesnt really work, can anyone recommend how to work with delicious and konq.?
[03:26] <Jucato> jack_: I think there is. but not sure how
[03:26] <Jucato> jack_: did you read what I said earlier about kde-apps.org?
[03:26] <jmichaelx> what i did initially may have been dumb.... i simply un-installed sun-java5-* in adept, then attempted to install sun-java6-*
[03:26] <Jucato> test34: oh... now that's a different matter
[03:27] <jmichaelx> Jucato: after that i even tried it with automatix.... same error
[03:27] <jack_> nope i was disconnected jucato sorry but i found the konqilicious only there, didnt really work for me too
[03:27] <Jucato> jmichaelx: hmm...
[03:27] <test34> Jucato, I need md5-dev or something like this ?
[03:27] <Jucato> jack_: I'm using the bookmarkbar app from kde-apps.org, but needs to be compiled
[03:27] <guiden> there isn't a package called libxine-extracodecs
[03:27] <Jucato> test34: no. libssl-dev
[03:27] <Jucato> guiden: did you enable the multiverse repository as instructed?
[03:28] <guiden> everything is enabled
[03:28] <test34> thanks Jucato
[03:28] <jack_> i'd rather take all my delicious things from win with me, so i can easily swich
[03:28] <Jucato> guiden: you have to add it
[03:28] <guiden> fetched all
[03:28] <Jucato> jack_: try that one I mentioned. so far it's the only thing that worked for me. (del.icio.us + konq)
[03:28] <phil_> hi there, i was wondering what the best way to install (k)ubunto onto an SGI 540 would be
[03:29] <Jucato> guiden: you have to *add* multiverse. it's not there by default
[03:29] <jack_> jucato which one did you mentioned? i was disconnected when you wrote that
[03:29] <Jucato> jack_: I just mentioned it a minute ago
[03:29] <Jucato> [10:28]  <Jucato> jack_: I'm using the bookmarkbar app from kde-apps.org, but needs to be compiled
[03:30] <guiden> but there are two lines that contains multiverse
[03:30] <jack_> ah jucato so app is for delicious? i thought its sth different
[03:30] <Jucato> guiden: those are *not* the correct one
[03:30] <jack_> ok i can compile it thx jucato
[03:30] <Jucato> jack_: it's another sidebar thing for Konqueror
[03:30] <guiden> ok
[03:30] <Jucato> jack_: works better than the one installed by default
[03:31] <guiden> jucato, where do I find the right ones?
[03:31] <Jucato> guiden: edgy or dapper?
[03:32] <guiden> edgy
[03:33] <Jucato> guiden: the line looks something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" **add** (do not replace) "multiverse" at the end of that line
[03:33] <jack_> jucato do you know where it is subcategorized? the entries in the search dont seem to have it
[03:34] <Jucato> jack_: hm?
[03:34] <jack_> i cannot find it in the kde-apps.jucato, the name is "app"?
[03:34] <Jucato> I already gave the name of the app
 [10:28]  <Jucato> jack_: I'm using the bookmarkbar app from kde-apps.org, but needs to be compiled
[03:36] <asfhjkh> does anybody know if archive.ubuntu.com is down?  I can't connect to update my system.
[03:36] <jack_> jucato, i got that so far, jsut on kde-apps. icant find it, thanks however
[03:36] <asfhjkh> I am running edgy kubuntu
[03:36] <Jucato> asfhjkh: which server/mirror are you using?
[03:36] <Jucato> jack_: the name is "bookmarkbar"
[03:37] <asfhjkh> here is the output from 'apt-get update': Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.89.6), connection timed out
[03:37] <Jucato> jack_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26325
[03:37] <asfhjkh> http://archive.ubuntu.com
[03:37] <asfhjkh> I also can't get to it from Firefox.
[03:38] <asfhjkh> all other browsing and even connecting to security.ubuntu.com works...
[03:38] <asfhjkh> can anyone else access http://archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:38] <dec_> hello, i installed secret maryo chronicles and when I go to open the game, it doesn't respond any ideas of how to check it
[03:40] <Jucato> asfhjkh: works fine here. must be the local server/mirror being used in your sources.list
[03:40] <dec_> asfhjkh: i just checked mine it is ok
[03:44] <asfhjkh> I am going to that exact web site and it doesn't connect... obviously my internet connection works and all other browsing works... what can be the problem??
[03:45] <Jucato> hm... proxy? I think apt-get doesn't like proxies..
[03:46] <asfhjkh> no no proxy, but I am seeing in my firewall that the IP is trying to connect back to me on port 49147... wtf??
[03:47] <asfhjkh> actually no, it is not 91.189.89.6 but 91.189.89.8 that is trying to connect back to me...
[03:50] <jack_> jucato thanks i searched for "app" , stupid question, does it matter where i download the source file too?
[03:50] <guiden> VLC OWNS! everything else sucks
[03:50] <Jucato> jack_: nope.
[03:50] <jack_> thanks jucato
[03:50] <Jucato> guiden: or... you just didn't know how to make kaffeine work...
[03:51] <Shot> hey does anyone know how to optimise kubuntu for performance
[03:51] <Jucato> with just libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs, kaffeine (using xine) can do almost everything mplayer and vlc can... almost...
[03:52] <guiden> Yes I do but I couldt get the proper libraries
[03:53] <guiden> I know that you have can differenct engines
[03:53] <guiden> or something
[03:53] <Jucato> guiden: you might as well get that multiverse enabled now, as you'll come across the problem again when you try to install flash and java
[03:55] <jack_> jucato it tells me i am missing a lot of things, compilers etc, the final error is
[03:55] <jack_> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:55] <jack_> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:55] <guiden> ok done
[03:55] <Jucato> jack_: er thought you knew could compile already
[03:55] <guiden> I don't like these repositories
[03:55] <guiden> why so many
[03:55] <Jucato> !build-essential | jack_
[03:55] <ubotu> jack_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:55] <Jucato> !repositories | guiden
[03:55] <ubotu> guiden: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:56] <Jucato> guiden: there's a link to a page there explaining it
[03:56] <jack_> ok sorry jucato then i didnt want to brag hehe, ok reading
[03:57] <guiden> well I still can't find libxine-extracodecs, and I know that the repository you gave me worked beacouse I downloaded something when i fetched
[03:57] <guiden> because
[03:59] <guiden> jucato, can you find it?
[04:00] <Jucato> guiden: pastebin your sources.list
[04:00] <Jucato> !pastebin | guiden
[04:00] <ubotu> guiden: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <Jucato> guiden: Fetch Updates will always download something, whether or not you have properly enabled the correct repository
[04:01] <guiden> Where is the real file situated?
[04:01] <guiden> how do I open it with nano?
[04:01] <guiden> where
[04:01] <Jucato> guiden: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <Wolfpaws> Have a question: Are KDE4 packages known to be broken?
[04:04] <compilerwriter> Who can give me the quick tutorial in gpg?
[04:04] <Jucato> they're known to not work sometimes or crash... but as for installing, not sure. might be a packaging problem
[04:04] <guiden> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7890/
[04:04] <compilerwriter> !gpg | compilerwriter
[04:04] <Wolfpaws> Jucato: yeah... It's file collision error
[04:05] <Jucato> guiden: see. you don't have it enabled.. and seems like you didn't follow my instructions very well...
[04:05] <dx11101> what program do you use to encode flac to ogg?
[04:05] <Wolfpaws> is there a way to force the ignore/override in apt?
 guiden: the line looks something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" **add** (do not replace) "multiverse" at the end of that line <--- I said looks like.
[04:05] <Jucato> guiden: that would be this line: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[04:06] <gugu^> HELP to install  Canon LBP-810 printer
[04:06] <gugu^> please
[04:06] <Jucato> guiden: add the word multiverse at the end of that line. (you can use Adept)
[04:07] <edgarin> Hi some people have the package turboprint?
[04:07] <acr> gugu^: there isn't a driver for it in the database during the install wizard?
[04:08] <guiden> Ok, but I have to add that its 4 oclock in the morning over here, im tired but I can't sleep because I' drank coffie too late
[04:10] <acr> gugu^: ?
[04:10] <gugu^> acr no, i downloaded a driver for lbp-810 from http://debian.are-ata.org/capt/ and folow the instrucyions, but its not working
[04:10] <Jucato> guiden: ok.. you're call :)
[04:10] <sparr> how might i benchmark the speed of my swap under different conditions?
[04:11] <gugu^> acr: i have 2 printers here, HP and canon, HP i have instaled very easy, but canon its not working
[04:11] <acr> gugu^: hang on, I'm trying to find an answer for you
[04:12] <gugu^> acr: ok, thx, there in CUPS apeares on Canon LBP-810 this /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[04:13] <dx11101> anyone here use FLAC?
[04:13] <acr> gugu^: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-LBP-810
[04:14] <guiden> jucato, its working now, thank you
[04:14] <acr> gugu^: is that the driver you downloaded? the 'capt' driver?
[04:14] <Jucato> guiden: you were able to install libxine-extracodecs?
[04:15] <guiden> I see it on the list, but im going to install it now
[04:15] <pirothezerox> whats the difference between apt-get and portage/emerge? seems like its the same thing except emerge is like 5 times slower.
[04:15] <gugu^> acr:  yes maybe, but i dowloaded it form here http://debian.are-ata.org/capt/ , there is a package
[04:16] <guiden> jucato, do I have every repository I need? And should I have everyone on?
[04:16] <Jucato> pirothezerox: it's like the difference between installing a binary package and compiling from source code
[04:16] <acr> gugu^: and you followed the instructions on that page? Modified the /etc/capt.conf file?
[04:17] <gugu^> acr: yes
[04:17] <acr> gugu^: and now when you try to print, nothing happens? You don't get an error message or anything?
[04:17] <jack_> hi jucato, auto-apt didnt help, i get this error:configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found.
[04:17] <Jucato> pirothezerox: apt will just download pre-compiled binary packages from a repository, resolve and download dependencies, and install them. portage/emerge on the other hand give instructions on compiling the package from source code. so it's actually compiling, hence the 5 times longer
[04:17] <jack_> jucato shoudl i just look for it in synaptic?
[04:18] <Jucato> jack_: you need to install libqt3-mt-dev
[04:18] <gugu^> acr: it nothig happens, I get only this /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[04:18] <Jucato> guiden: basically yes
[04:18] <jack_> thank you jucato
[04:19] <guiden> ok
[04:19] <Jucato> jack_: compiling tip. when configure complains of missing headers and libraries, try to look for the -dev version of the package it mentions
[04:19] <pirothezerox> thanks jucate that seems like what its like, but why do it then? not like you get to pick optimizations before compiling...like why suffer through it compiling when you can have it pre-compiled?
[04:19] <guiden> your stacking up your karma jucato :)
[04:19] <dx11101> is their a program to convert FLAC to OGG?
[04:20] <Jucato> pirothezerox: because Gentoo is a source based distribution and that's how they like it.
[04:20] <acr> gugu^: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-QL-500
[04:20] <Jucato> guiden: I wish! heheh
[04:20] <jack_> jucato i read that in the tips u posted, but there are so many qt versions so i was not sure, thank you anyway;-)
[04:20] <acr> gugu^: (I don't actually know much about printing. I'm just googling around)
[04:21] <pirothezerox> figured thats what youd say hehehe
[04:21] <gugu^> acr:  ok, i`ll try this, thx
[04:21] <acr> gugu^: no problem
[04:23] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:23] <jack_> jucato "
[04:23] <jack_> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:23] <jack_> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:23] <jack_> oh sorry guys
[04:23] <jack_> didnt want to post it all, sry
[04:23] <Jucato> jack_: what --prefix did you use?
[04:24] <asfhjkh> weirdness... stopping the firestarter firewall enabled my connection to archive.ubuntu.com...
[04:24] <jack_> jucato ./configure
[04:24] <Jucato> jack_: no. I meant ./configure --prefix= what?
[04:25] <jack_> jucato i used none
[04:25] <Jucato> hm...?
[04:25] <Jucato> jack_: just plain ./configure?
[04:26] <jack_> jucato yes, but before --x-includes=DIR' and --x-libraries=DIR, but not now
[04:26] <jack_> jucato yes plain configure
[04:27] <Jucato> why did you use --x-includes and --x-libraries?
[04:27] <surgy> hi jucato
[04:27] <Jucato> hi surgy
[04:28] <pirothezerox> anyone here run different linux distros to try out on vmware?
[04:28] <Jucato> jack_: check if you have kdelibs4-dev installed
[04:28] <surgy> hows ot goin tonight?
[04:28] <Jucato> surgy: hm.. sun's hight up
[04:29] <surgy> jucato: ahh i forget there are other places :) its 9:30 pm here
[04:29] <Jucato> CST
[04:29] <Jucato> hm...
[04:29] <jack_> jucato thanks i hadn't
[04:29] <skywalker> vmware not free
[04:30] <Wolfpaws> vmware-player is, tho
[04:30] <Jucato> vmware player and vmware server are free (as in beer)
[04:31] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:31] <skywalker> I had problems with vmplayer
[04:31] <xerroz> yay
[04:31] <xerroz> Adept is crashing again!!
[04:32] <Jucato> maybe you should re-write it in C >:D
[04:32] <Jucato> laugh*
[04:32] <surgy> or python* :)
[04:33] <Jucato> dang! punchlines are ruiined by typos...
[04:33] <surgy> i feal your pane
[04:33] <surgy> pain*
[04:33] <Jucato> hehe
[04:33] <Jucato> I guess xerroz didn't get the [/sarcasm]  :D
[04:33] <n8k99> is that like a window? surgy
[04:34] <xerroz> Jucato: lmfao
[04:34] <surgy> n8k99: python is a programming language http://www.python.org
[04:34] <xerroz> I was considering a re-write
[04:34] <xerroz> but then again, i've considered rewritten most every KDE app around
[04:34] <Jucato> xerroz: hehehe! I'm just watching your discussin w/ njaard :P
[04:34] <xerroz> Jucato: I noticed :)
[04:35] <n8k99> pane = window, python = english comedy show
[04:35] <Jucato> monty python :)
[04:35] <Jucato> another one? oh well...
[04:35] <Jucato> hm.. brb errand...
[04:35] <surgy> n8k99:  i see monty python, i was reffering to the programming language
[04:35] <Jucato> people be nice :D
[04:36] <surgy> jucato: im always nice
[04:36] <xerroz> well the one kubuntu has already is horrible :)
[04:36] <n8k99> yes: sorry- i picked up at the wrong point
[04:36] <xerroz> no offense if the developer is here
[04:36] <surgy> n8k99: np
[04:37] <surgy> n8k99:  awsome
[04:37] <n8k99> print "spam" * 500
[04:38] <jack_> jucato the configure worked fine, but the make reports an error 2
[04:40] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:40] <Shadowtester> is there any way to create a desktop launcher to run a command in the konsole like ssh root@ip ?
[04:41] <jack_> jucato the konsole output is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/
[04:41] <xerroz> I think kubuntu has done a great job :) but i think we can make it a whole lot better ^_^
[04:41] <sparr> Shadowtester: right click, create new, link to application.  fill everything in, then go application, advanced, [X]  Run in terminal
[04:42] <Shadowtester> ok thanks I will try that
[04:42] <sparr> which is almost exactly the same way its done in windows  :)
[04:45] <jack_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/ can anyone have a look at this error i get when i do make?
[04:45] <defiant> Hello all. Can someone please help me install phpmyadmin and configure mysql?
[04:49] <smax> hi
[04:50] <smax> is it feasable to install kubuntu with kernel 2.6 on the fly rather than upgrade from 2.4 ?
[04:50] <smax> otherwise i get videocard issues
[04:53] <jmiller5655> hi, does anyone know how to change the keyboard layout in Kubuntu?
[04:53] <Darkkish> addons maybe
[04:53] <Darkkish> er... programs*
[04:54] <jmiller5655> right now I think its set to international
[04:54] <jmiller5655> What program do I use?
[04:56] <defiant> networkparadox, I have tried that as well
[04:56] <Shadowtester> is there a way to put a trash can on the desk top to just drag and drop files?
[04:57] <networkparadox> defiant have you already attempted the install
[04:58] <smax> is it feasable to install kubuntu with kernel 2.6 on the fly rather than upgrade from 2.4 after installation?
[04:58] <defiant> Yes
[04:58] <smax> otherwise i get videocard issues.
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> defiant: search for "ubuntu perfect isp", they have a great tutorial
[04:58] <jmiller5655> so what programm do i use to change the keyboard layout?
[04:58] <networkparadox> defiant, any errors?
[04:58] <defiant> I did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin and it said it installed
[04:59] <defiant> but when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin it asks me if I want to download this file
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> defiant: do you have apache installed?
[04:59] <defiant> Yes
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> defiant: is it set up for php
[05:00] <defiant> This is what I want to do. I want to set up phpmyadmin so I can import a databse that I have tha tis over 500mb
[05:00] <networkparadox> why not use the command line mysql?
[05:00] <defiant> I do not know if it is compiled with php
[05:00] <defiant> because it does not work for me either
[05:01] <defiant> and I need to pull one of the tables out when it is done
[05:01] <bonbonthejon> defiant: here is a great tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4
[05:01] <defiant> bonbonthejon, that did not work for me either
[05:01] <jmiller5655> anyone know how to change the keyboard layout? please
[05:01] <defiant> I must be an idiot or something
[05:01] <jack_> hi, could anyone help me witha compiling error?
[05:02] <jack_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> defiant: how far did you get
[05:02] <defiant> apparently the whole thing but nothing works
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: its in control center under region/accessibility
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> defiant: can you run "mysql" from command line
[05:03] <defiant> yes
[05:03] <jmiller5655> Thanx hitmanWilly
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> defiant: the mysql admin console?
[05:03] <defiant> what is that?
[05:04] <bonbonthejon> defiant: mysqladmin, does it bring up a sql prompt?
[05:04] <defiant> it gave me a list of options
[05:05] <bonbonthejon> defiant: ok, so mysql is installed, did you set the root password
[05:05] <defiant> yes
[05:05] <defiant> I just tried to import again and it tells me it exists but I cannot access it with phpmyadmin
[05:05] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: there aren any keyboard layouts there when I get to accessibilities. What should I do?
[05:06] <networkparadox> did you install the php4-mysql or php5-mysql package ?
[05:06] <defiant> that I am unsure of
[05:06] <defiant> I believe it was the 4
[05:06] <bonbonthejon> defiant: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6 tells how to install apache and php
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: is the enable keyboard layouts button checked?
[05:06] <defiant> bonbonjon, I am not using dapper
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> defiant: the process is the same
[05:07] <dx11101> im stuck
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> dx11101: with what
[05:07] <dx11101> i have 4 hdds NTFS all full and no way to convert it
[05:07] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: I just did. Do i need to log out and then log in again?
[05:07] <defiant> I think apache and php are all set up I need phpmyadmin to function
[05:07] <dx11101> do i need to buy another hdd to move the data?
[05:08] <dx11101> and then reformat to ext3?
[05:08] <bonbonthejon> dx11101: ubuntu can now read and write to ntfs
[05:08] <dx11101> and copy over?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: no, should be immediate
[05:08] <smax> is it feasable to install kubuntu with kernel 2.6 on the fly rather than upgrade from 2.4 after installation?
[05:08] <dx11101> safely write nfts?
[05:08] <bonbonthejon> dx11101: but ext3 is better supported, obviously
[05:08] <smax> otherwise i get videocard issues.
[05:08] <dx11101> i think ill buy another hdd
[05:09] <dx11101> and then make it ext3 and start copying data
[05:09] <jack_> surgy jucato
[05:09] <jack_> could you help me witha compiling error?
[05:09] <jack_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7891/
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> defiant: put "<? phpinfo() ?>" and name it info.php, then open it in a browser, it should show some statistics
[05:09] <asfhjkh> firestart is messing me up... I just replaced it with guarddog and now all seems to work ok...
[05:09] <nitro> is there anyway to Using kubuntu To upgrade or Change from KDE to Gnome?
[05:09] <asfhjkh> firestarter...
[05:09] <dx11101> another question, is their a way to convert FLAC to OGG VORBIS?
[05:09] <pirothezerox> nitro: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> nitro: install ubuntu-desktop, it will install snome
[05:09] <asfhjkh> dx11101: try ffmpeg
[05:10] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: anything i can do?
[05:10] <nitro> will that be the x86_64 bit kernel or does that just install Gnome GUC desktop
[05:10] <Jucato> jack_: install kdebase-dev
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: is the change not registering?
[05:10] <defiant> it asks me to download the file
[05:11] <bonbonthejon> defiant: apache isnt processing the php, did you make the changes the site said?
[05:11] <bonbonthejon> defiant: did you also restart apache
[05:12] <asfhjkh> how do I stop services from starting up in Ubuntu?  In Fedora, it was system-services-config, anything like taht in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[05:12] <jack_> jucato i am so stupid, wnated to do that, but tried to install devel, which ofcourse didntwork, thanks for the help
[05:12] <Jucato> asfhjkh: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:12] <defiant> yes I have
[05:12] <Jucato> asfhjkh: Kubuntu: System Settings -> Advanced -> System Services
[05:12] <nitro> ubuntu-desktopx86_64?
[05:12] <Jucato> dunno about Ubuntu
[05:14] <Jucato> nitro: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[05:14] <nitro> thnx
[05:15] <smax> are there any kubuntu download links with an installation with kernel 2.6?
[05:16] <nitro> only thing is i want x86_64
[05:17] <asfhjkh> jucato: thanks...
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> smax: you could download vanilla ubuntu and then add the kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <networkparadox> defiant what do you get when you type this in terminal? php -v
[05:17] <jack_> jucato how would i finally start app now?
[05:17] <Jucato> jack_: it will be in the konqueror sidebar
[05:17] <Jucato> it's not a separate app
[05:17] <defiant> command not found
[05:18] <smax> hmm
[05:18] <smax> i'll look into vanilla thanx
[05:18] <networkparadox> then it is likely that php is not installed
[05:18] <networkparadox> which version of php do you want?
[05:18] <Jucato> !lamp
[05:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:19] <jack_> jucato there is this patch http://pastie.caboo.se/41815 that all tags are shown if search field is empty, can i just paste the code in konsole?
[05:20] <Jucato> er that's not the proper way to apply patches...
[05:20] <Jucato> wait...
[05:20] <gugu^> acr: i solved the problem, its printing , but i have another, after printing i have anther eror "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds...", if remove de job, he is printing, maybe you have an idea what i can do
[05:20] <acr> gugu^: I don't have any idea. Sorry :-(
[05:21] <Jucato> hm...
[05:21] <gugu^> acr: ok
[05:22] <acr> sorry to be off topic, but does anybody know where I can find a tutorial on building a mini-itx system?
[05:22] <Jucato> jack_: could you hold a  few secs while I try this patch out?
[05:23] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: soz just a problem happened, i back though. is there any command i can use?
[05:23] <jack_> sure jucato, meanwhile app doesnt appear, probably i should restart kde
[05:24] <Jucato> jack_: no
[05:24] <Jucato> read the comments, the one about a minor issue
[05:25] <corporate> I want help with viewing Hindi language in Opera
[05:25] <jack_> jucato i did the cp thing comliantly
[05:26] <Jucato> jack_: have you tried restarting konqueror?
[05:27] <jack_> yes jucato
[05:27] <Dr_willis> acr,  several mini-atx sites.. of course those things are so all-in-one.. theres not a lot to building them.. get case.. get mb.. plug in ram.. :)
[05:28] <Jucato> weird...
[05:28] <Jucato> jack_: are you sure it' not showing up in the sidebar? it looks just like the other del.icio.us sidebar
[05:28] <acr> Dr_willis: can you link me to any of them? Something with a basic overview of the process and things to look out for would be great.
[05:30] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: soz just a problem happened, i back though. is there any command i can use?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> acr,  i think theres a mini-atx.com site.. but its brittish :) so their guides have some funny slang at times
[05:31] <acr> Dr_willis: is mini-atx the same thing as mini-itx?
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: what are you trying to set the layout to?
[05:31] <corporate> I want help with viewing Hindi language in Opera, I would appreciate any consideration of my problem
[05:31] <jack_> thanks jucato now it worked, how can i apply the patch then? stupid question, i know
[05:31] <acr> Dr_willis: and does it really matter for a mythtv frontend?
[05:31] <Jucato> jack_: I'm still testing it
[05:32] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: just US keyboard
[05:32] <Dr_willis> acr,  well.. the #mythtv-users channel/forums may tell ya the minimum specs needed for a good front end.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> theres gettting to be so many mini-micro-whatever motherboards now - its scary
[05:32] <jack_> ok, jucato, actually in my konqueror it already shows all posts when the search field is empty so no real need for that
[05:33] <acr> Dr_willis: with all 4 other people in it? I got some great advice there, but then the person left and nobody else has showed up or responded
[05:33] <Jucato> jack_: yeah... I'm wondering what that patch is for... I'll talk to the author later
[05:33] <Jucato> he seems to be offline
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: are you just trying to enable media keys or something?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> acr,  #mythtv-users has more then 4 people :)
[05:34] <acr> Dr_willis: mm... you're very right. I'm in ubuntu-mythtv. Thanks, I'll check it out
[05:34] <jack_> jucato glad that i didnt apply it then..how would i have done that or where can i read about that?
[05:34] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: I don think so
[05:34] <acr> Dr_willis: why would mythtv-users not be coming up when I search freenode channels?
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> jmiller5655: what EXACTLY do you need to do?
[05:35] <Jucato> jack_: you would have download the patch (it's a .diff file). put it in the same directory where the bookmark-0.2 folder is in (not inside bookmark-0.2), then run "patch -p0 < filename.diff"
[05:35] <Dr_willis> acr,  Im in there right now....
[05:35] <Dr_willis> #muthtv-users
[05:35] <Dr_willis> oops
[05:35] <Dr_willis> #mythtv-users
[05:36] <jack_> thanks so much jucato i really should go to bed now
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Ive never managed to get mythtv working under ubuntu :)
[05:36] <acr> Dr_willis: so am I, now. I put the name in manually and it's fine. But it doesn't come up when I search channels with kopete
[05:36] <jack_> bybye
[05:36] <Jucato> jack_: ok bye
[05:36] <acr> Dr_willis: thanks for the encouragement :-)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I never use the channel listings :) heh.
[05:36] <acr> Dr_willis: I'm going to start small. Use my server as a backend, my laptop as a frontend
[05:36] <Dr_willis> acr,  KnoppMyth is very easy to get going.
[05:37] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: I would like to stop the comma and speech marks to become like this. For example if I want jmillers, i need to pree it twice so it doesnt become like jmiller
[05:37] <acr> Dr_willis: I want to keep all my operating systems in place, and the ubuntu mythtv site looked great. If I have problems though, I might try and boot knoppmyth from a flash drive
[05:37] <jmiller5655> hitmanWilly: brb
[05:38] <Dr_willis> of course one of the points to MythTV is to have it running all the time.. so you can record your shows. :)
[05:38] <acr> Dr_willis: one last question for you before I start bugging the people in #mythtv-users: very few of the cards I'm looking at have tv-outputs. Do I have to find a tv that connects to a computer output, or am I missing something?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> My Mythtv box is sitting here below the tv.. purring along.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Find a Nvidia card with a tv out.. theres a lot of good cheap ones out.
[05:39] <acr> I see. All right, thank you
[05:39] <Dr_willis> tv out is getting to be hard to NOT find in a ideo card. :)
[05:39] <underdog5004> svid out, anyway
[05:39] <underdog5004> composite still is a little sketchy
[05:39] <acr> Dr_willis: I have an nvidia geforce go 7300 and it doesn't have one
[05:39] <acr> I think...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> acr,  'go' ? thats a mobile/laptop thang?
[05:40] <acr> Dr_willis: holy ****, it's got an svideo out
[05:40] <Dr_willis> acr,  heh heh
[05:40] <acr> Dr_willis: yes it is, but it has an svideo slot
[05:40] <acr> and I'm 99% sure it's not an svideo-in
[05:40] <Dr_willis> about all laptops these days got svideo out..
[05:40] <acr> wonderful!
[05:40] <acr> i had no idea
[05:40] <Dr_willis> svideo-IN would br rather.. rare. :)
[05:41] <acr> in one day I've discovered an SD card reader and svideo out on my laptop
[05:41] <Dr_willis> gee.. perhaps ya should read the manual? :)
[05:41] <acr> perhaps I should :-)
[05:41] <acr> will the svideo work as easily in linux as the card reader did? It took about 5 seconds to auto-detect it in digikam
[05:41] <Dr_willis> depends on the chipset.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> my nvidia tv out works very well..
[05:42] <acr> this is going to be fun :-)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> BUT theres may be some configuration to do.. or some other tricks. :0
[05:42] <Dr_willis> on my desktop box.. if i plug in the tv.. and unplug the monitor..  the thing defaults to the tv..
[05:42] <Dr_willis> if i got both plugged in.. it defaults to the monitor. and i have to confifure the tv out with the xorg.conf file.
[05:43] <acr> wow. Theoretically I could do dual screen, huh?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> amazed a guy that way once.. he was fighting his mythtv box.. told him to Unplug the monitor.. plug in the tv.. and reboot.. and it worked with the default nvidia xorg.conf
[05:43] <acr> so many more possibilities just opened up...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> acr,  ive done dual screen with tv/monitor yes..
[05:43] <Dr_willis> its not hard.. but may take some research
[05:43] <acr> wow...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> ONE trick is to realize theres a nvidia config program that sets it up for ya. :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> backup your working xorg.conf Befor twiddling with it
[05:44] <acr> hmmm... I ran an nvidia config when I set up the driver
[05:44] <acr> I learned that the hard way
[05:44] <acr> I think I learned that the hard way a few times, in fact
[05:45] <jerware> hi
[05:45] <Dr_willis> backup your xorg.conf and check out (READ IT)     nvidia-xconfig  --advanced-help
[05:46] <Dr_willis> -a, --enable-all-gpus  Configure an X screen on every GPU in the system.
[05:46] <jerware> where can i learn to install nvidia drivers?  i have an nVidia PCI card
[05:46] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <jerware> thanx
[05:46] <Dr_willis> jerware,  what card specificially you got?
[05:46] <jerware> oh sorry, im in my schools computer lab.  i dont know off the bat.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> use 'lspci' and see :)
[05:47] <jerware> Dr_willis i'll be back.
[05:48] <jerware> i believe it's geforce 4000
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Geforce4 perhaps?
[05:48] <jerware> yes
[05:49] <Dr_willis>  check the nvidia url closely. it will tell you if you need the old or newer drivers...
[05:49] <jerware> ok thanx.  im going to run back to my dorm
[05:49] <jerware> Dr_willis  what other info is needed other than lspci ?
[05:49] <jerware> aww i'll just open ssh
[05:50] <Dr_willis> lspci shows what cards are on the box.
[05:55] <smax> Hi  Dr_willis   it's me jerware back in my dorm.   here is my lspci  http://rafb.net/p/tR8ilu37.html
[05:55] <smax> the box of my card says  GeForce MX4000
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sounds like an older nvidia card then
[05:57] <smax> damn.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[05:58] <nonuda> how to mar a *.dll as native,builtin in wine
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Geforce 4MX - yep..
[05:58] <nonuda> mr=mark
[05:58] <Dr_willis> should be supported fine. :) but its not a high end card.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> not any more at least.
[05:58] <smax> Dr_willis, yes,  i have an old PC
[05:58] <underdog5004> plenty enough for beryl or compiz
[05:58] <smax> no AGP slot
[05:59] <smax> Dr_willis, so everything i need should be in the prior link ?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> yes.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <smax> thanx pal
[06:00] <nonuda> anybody have experience in wine? i really need to know how to mark a dll file as native or builtin
[06:01] <ryan__> any one know how to set up wireless?
[06:01] <underdog5004> nonuda, have you tried my best friend, google?
[06:01] <underdog5004> ryan__, what chipset do you have?
[06:01] <ryan__> intel pro
[06:01] <ryan__> wirelss
[06:01] <nonuda> i have try..but i just can't find it
[06:01] <ryan__> wireless*
[06:02] <underdog5004> ryan__, do lspci and paste the result
[06:02] <underdog5004> in pastebin
[06:02] <underdog5004> !pastebin > ryan__
[06:03] <ryan__> okay
[06:03] <ryan__> :)
[06:03] <jmiller56554> hitmanWilly: I would like to stop the comma and speech marks to become like this. For example if I want jmillers, i need to presss it twice so it doesnt become like jmiller. So what can i do?
[06:04] <jmiller56554> hitmanWilly: I would like to stop the comma and speech marks to become like this. For example if I want jmillers, i need to presss it twice so it doesnt become like jmiller. So what can i do?
[06:05] <ryan__> pastebin is quite slow...
[06:05] <John-Z> Did the latest round of updates break anyones kdm?
[06:05] <John-Z> Im running feisty.
[06:05] <Jucato> John-Z: #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <ryan__> http://pastebin.ca/375300
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Thers a reason you dont use feisty. :)
[06:05] <TheAngel> whats feisty? :)
[06:05] <ryan__> underdog5004: http://pastebin.ca/375300
[06:05] <Jucato> !feisty | TheAngel
[06:05] <ubotu> TheAngel: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <TheAngel> aah ok cool thank you
[06:06] <underdog5004> ryan__, ok, looking now
[06:06] <ryan__> okay
[06:06] <underdog5004> ryan__, lol, my gf's lappy has the same exact card. You'll need to use ndiswrapper and get the .inf files for the card, really easy stuff
[06:07] <ryan__> thats good
[06:07] <jerware> ndiswrapper taints the kernel
[06:07] <underdog5004> only for purists
[06:07] <ryan__> so what do i need to get?
[06:07] <underdog5004> ryan__, it doesn't work perfectly, but it does work
[06:07] <underdog5004> ryan__, google ndiswrapper, and your card
[06:07] <ryan__> ok
[06:07] <ryan__> thanks
[06:07] <underdog5004> np
[06:07] <underdog5004> sorry for not spoon-feeding you
[06:08] <underdog5004> jk
[06:08] <ryan__> lol
[06:08] <underdog5004> I think I've got the inf files on my usb stick...h/o
[06:09] <jerware> i dont know much about .inf files  but when i used ndis wrapper with my linksys wireless card,  my system would freeze
[06:09] <Dr_willis> when i turn on the microwave.. my wireless network hangs up. :)
[06:09] <ryan__> lol
[06:09] <Dr_willis> sort of sucks at lunchtime
[06:09] <Dr_willis> and when the cordless phone rang.. it would hang up.. but the phone was right next to the pc.
[06:09] <underdog5004> ryan__, I've sent you the file...you need to accept it.
[06:10] <ryan__> um
[06:10] <ryan__> is it possible to use mirc on linux
[06:11] <TheAngel> i dont now ryan__
[06:11] <underdog5004> !irc > ryan__
[06:11] <jerware> ryan__ whould would you want that crap?
[06:11] <underdog5004> ryan__, what are you using now?
[06:11] <jerware> it charges you money
[06:11] <jerware> use xchat
[06:11] <ryan__> Konversation
[06:11] <jerware> or irssi at the command line
[06:11] <underdog5004> ryan__, sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:12] <ryan__> this is the right thing?
[06:12] <ryan__> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7704
[06:13] <underdog5004> ryan__, I don't think so...that's for native support, but if you wanna compile the driver yourself, go for it!
[06:17] <ryan__> hey underdog5004
[06:17] <ryan__> can you send me the files
[06:17] <underdog5004> ok, h/o
[06:17] <ryan__> okay
[06:17] <ryan__> :)
[06:18] <underdog5004> there you go
[06:18] <underdog5004> not sure how, but you have to accept the transfer
[06:18] <TheAngel> when installing kubuntu.. can i select an option to use freespace of my c drivE?
[06:19] <jerware> you need to partition it
[06:19] <TheAngel> ok..
[06:19] <TheAngel> can i do it in the setup?
[06:19] <jerware> yes i believe there are options for that.
[06:19] <TheAngel> thank you..
[06:20] <jerware> what i found easier thought.  was to resize my windows from windows.  then install linux
[06:20] <jerware> s/thought/though
[06:20] <TheAngel> ok.. but i need special progs for that right.. wich i dont have :P
[06:20] <jerware> err resize windows partition from windows
[06:20] <jerware> sorry i havent ran windows in years.
[06:20] <TheAngel> just downloaded kubuntu , freed up some hd space
[06:20] <jerware> but thats what i did back in the day
[06:21] <TheAngel> back at windows 95? :P
[06:21] <jerware> naw 2 years ago with xp
[06:21] <TheAngel> ok 52gb free
[06:21] <jerware> i dont think linux existed back at win 95.  but what do i know. im just in college
[06:21] <TheAngel> lets install;
[06:23] <ryan__> god im such a n00b
[06:23] <ryan__> :\
[06:23] <underdog5004> np, lets try again
[06:23] <ryan__> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/10315/eng/ipw3945-linux-1.2.0.tgz
[06:23] <ryan__> is that right?
[06:23] <underdog5004> nice
[06:23] <underdog5004> idk...lemme look
[06:23] <ryan__> ok
[06:23] <ryan__> :)
[06:24] <underdog5004> looks good...your card is a 3945?
[06:24] <ryan__> yea
[06:24] <underdog5004> tell me how it turns out, I'll be here all night
[06:24] <ryan__> well once i download it
[06:24] <ryan__> what do i do?
[06:24] <ryan__> :P
[06:24] <chavo> jerware, linux was around in 95. I first installed it in 98
[06:25] <TheAngel> well brb all
[06:25] <TheAngel> lets hope it works
[06:25] <underdog5004> ryan__, I grabbed a copy for my gfs lappy as well...thanks
[06:25] <jerware> chavo like i said.  im just some college dumb ass
[06:25] <jerware> we dont learn shit
[06:26] <jerware> although my prof in OS Theory made us watch Revolution OS
[06:26] <Dr_willis> thats what books are for,
[06:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <ryan__> hey underdog5004 what do i open that file with?
[06:26] <underdog5004> ark
[06:26] <underdog5004> right-click on it
[06:26] <underdog5004> and select ark
[06:26] <ryan__> okay
[06:26] <jerware> i like oreilly bookshelf
[06:26] <jerware> http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/
[06:26] <ryan__> and then i see all those files
[06:27] <underdog5004> there should be a readme in there
[06:27] <ryan__> yea i click it and i get error messages
[06:27] <underdog5004> ryan, you have to extract the stuff first
[06:28] <underdog5004> the box with the purple arrow coming out
[06:28] <underdog5004> or right-click on the file, and select extract>here
[06:28] <ryan__> still lots of errors
[06:28] <ryan__> :\
[06:29] <underdog5004> hmmm I got that as well, but it looks like it extracted fine...
[06:29] <underdog5004> also looks like it is for an older kernel...
[06:30] <underdog5004> sorry ryan__ but I gotta go, see you later. Remember, ndiswrapper and .inf files
[06:36] <ryan__> omg
[06:36] <ryan__> can anyone else help me?
[06:37] <jerware> xD
[06:39] <posingaspopular> help? firefox keeps shutting down on start
[06:40] <posingaspopular> everything i get to gmail
[06:42] <ryan__> gawd
[06:42] <ryan__> linux is compilcated
[06:42] <ryan__> :P
[06:43] <akrus> hmm
[06:43] <akrus> could someone recommend me one thing? :)
[06:43] <akrus> actually using Opera as EMail Client (used it in Windows so it was simple to move)
[06:44] <akrus> afaik the only app that supports import from opera is kmail
[06:44] <akrus> actually I love evolution more, but anyway...
[06:44] <akrus> is KMail better than Opera client?
[06:45] <moby_dick> if anybody has a moment I had a question about kubuntu
[06:46] <jerware> being?
[06:46] <moby_dick> well I just ran out of hardrive space
[06:46] <jerware> delete your porn
[06:46] <moby_dick> and I think it is soaked up in caches and browser space
[06:46] <jerware> i work at my colleges resnet
[06:46] <jerware> i tell that to every one who says "It says my disk is full"
[06:46] <Jucato> sudo apt-get clean
[06:46] <moby_dick> okay I don't have any porn saved intentionally
[06:47] <moby_dick> so I'm cool with deleting it
[06:47] <ryan__> :P
[06:47] <moby_dick> I did a sudo apt-get clean
[06:47] <jerware> clear your browsers cache
[06:48] <moby_dick> I just did that I'm up another 100 megs
[06:48] <moby_dick> in dos I could do a dir /s and it would tell me the amount of space in a sub dir
[06:48] <moby_dick> is there a way to get a total from ls?
[06:48] <neptunepink> du = disk usage
[06:49] <neptunepink> so like, du -h gives the usage for the current directory, I think
[06:49] <Jucato> !filelight
[06:49] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[06:50] <moby_dick> du -h is a nice command
[06:50] <jerware> df -h
[06:52] <dsmith> question: since your cd auto mounts and places an icon on ones desktop how best can I do that with the floppy drive?
[06:54] <moby_dick> I had to make a link that is always there.
[06:54] <dsmith> moby_dick: in where?
[06:55] <moby_dick> I made a directory in /media
[06:55] <moby_dick> like /media/floppy ... it is probably there already
[06:56] <dsmith> hmmmmm
[06:56] <moby_dick> then I put a link to that on the desktop
[06:56] <moby_dick> using the ln command
[06:56] <moby_dick> I did it on my parents computer so I don't have it right in front ofme
[06:57] <KaoticEvil> how can i check if my 3D card is operating with full 3d acceleration?
[06:57] <dsmith> hmmm
[06:57] <moby_dick> ...I'm trying to think if I made a script that would mount the floppy
[06:57] <KaoticEvil> how can i check if my 3D card is operating with full 3d acceleration?
[06:57] <moby_dick> and the directory was always there
[06:57] <dsmith> moby_dick: ok
[06:58] <Kite_DH> can somebody tell me how KdeTV works?
[06:58] <jerware> KaoticEvil  if your 3D games can play
[06:58] <premier_> Im considering getting a fancy wireless keyboard.  They usually come with some fancy multimedia keys.  One comes with a remote and one even comes with a little joystick.  How do I get things like these working in linux?
[06:58] <jerware> otherwise dont worry about it
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> im running the LiveCD for right now...
[06:58] <jerware> well mostlikly it's not
[06:58] <jerware> since the installtion does not come with drivers.  you have to manually install your drivers
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> it detects properly... its an older GeForce
[06:58] <neptunepink> eh, adept_update has gone bonkers on meh!
[06:59] <jerware> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:59] <jerware> KaoticEvil i have an old geforce too
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> FX5200
[06:59] <jerware> and yes i see it in lspci.  but the drivers stil have to be installed
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> ok
[06:59] <jerware> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  KaoticEvil
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> ty
[06:59] <jerware> nvidia ?
[07:00] <Kite_DH> hello
[07:00] <dsmith> moby_dick: ok when I place a CD in this machine it comes up a seperate window with the contents
[07:00] <Kite_DH> i have a problem with kdeTV :(
[07:00] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me?
[07:00] <jbr> whAT
[07:00] <posingaspopular> !ask
[07:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:00] <Kite_DH> well, i cant find channels
[07:00] <moby_dick> dsmith: Your floppy doesn't automatically read the floppy though
[07:01] <Kite_DH> how can i import them?
[07:02] <dsmith> moby_dick: I understand that. On my other machine the cd mounts automatically and displays a desktop icon.
[07:03] <dsmith> moby_dick: so I have to create a link for it?
[07:03] <moby_dick> dsmith: you have to mount it other it will not know its there
[07:03] <dsmith> exactly
[07:03] <KaoticEvil> jerware: if i install the legacy drive in Breezy, and then dist-upgrade to Edgy, will the driver still be loaded?
[07:03] <moby_dick> it should be in your fstab so you could type mount /dev/floppy
[07:04] <dsmith> moby_dick: the problem is the person using the other machine wants to put a flppy in and hit a link
[07:04] <moby_dick> er mount /dev/fd0
[07:04] <dsmith> so I could create a link with mount /dev/fd0
[07:04] <dsmith> ??
[07:05] <moby_dick> yeah
[07:05] <dsmith> let me try that
[07:05] <moby_dick> That is the only way I know how to do it
[07:05] <dsmith> what about umounting?
[07:06] <jerware> taking i a device out of the directory tree
[07:06] <jerware> via umount
[07:06] <jerware> man umount
[07:06] <dsmith> ok I think I can do this
[07:06] <dsmith> thx
[07:06] <KaoticEvil> jerware: did you see my question above?
[07:06] <moby_dick> same thing umount /dev/fd0
[07:06] <Kite_DH> ...
[07:06] <Kite_DH> what about my question? =)
[07:06] <jerware> oh hold up.  im doing discrete math homework too
[07:06] <KaoticEvil> ok
[07:07] <moby_dick> discrete math, as in incospicuous?
[07:07] <ubuntu_> hey all
[07:07] <jerware> KaoticEvil  i dont know if distro changing will supply a brand new kernel.  if it's an upgrade, i hope not.
[07:07] <ubuntu_> im a little troubled,, im at the partitioning part.. but it keeps saying no base filesystem or something, and im rather lost :D
[07:07] <jerware> but i believe you will still have the legacy driver after upgrade
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> ok, cool... so it *should* work
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> awesome, thats all i needed to know.. thanks man :D
[07:08] <jerware> yes but dont synflood me if it doesent.
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> lol i wont
[07:08] <jerware> KaoticEvil are you having a problem seeing the screen?
[07:08] <KaoticEvil> i dunno.. i already have Edgy installed... i may try that legacy HOWTO....
[07:08] <jerware> hmmm.
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> no, im not... i just want to have 3d acceleration for once on linux :P
[07:09] <jerware> oh
[07:09] <jerware> well i dont know you will with legacy drivers.
[07:09] <jerware> just install nvidia drivers
[07:09] <jerware> from the link i gave you.
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> hmmm... ok
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> ill give it a shot
[07:09] <KaoticEvil> *switches his KVM and reboots the other machine*
[07:10] <jerware> i have a kvm too.
[07:10] <reldruh> hi. I just restarted my computer with a wireless connection as opposed to wired and it's working great, except amarok and katapult won't start
[07:11] <reldruh> does anybody have any idea what might be the problem? Or more importantly, how to fix it?
[07:11] <moby_dick> hey I have horrible trouble burning cds, it seems as though I only get about 1/3 of them properly burnt
[07:12] <jerware> i like k3b
[07:12] <jerware> but i sometimes have cd were there will be a track that doesent finish.  pisses me off
[07:13] <moby_dick> and it gives you that wha wha waaaa
[07:13] <neptunepink> ah, that happens to me too
[07:14] <neptunepink> somehow I managed to get these weird scratches from the drive...
[07:15] <jbr> KITE:>try to #kubuntu+1 the support channel
[07:15] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:15] <Kite_DH> o.o..
[07:15] <Kite_DH> its empty
[07:15] <KaoticEvil> now i have a whole other problem
[07:15] <KaoticEvil> *sigh*
[07:15] <jose> hello
[07:16] <jerware> what happened
[07:16] <KaoticEvil> X wont start
[07:16] <KaoticEvil> and i have no net access.. apparently, my wifi is broken (again)
[07:16] <jerware> is there a unitilty that auto configs xorg.conf ?
[07:16] <jose> witch is best page for download beryl?
[07:17] <KaoticEvil> yeah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg i think
[07:18] <Kite_DH> jose: google x)
[07:18] <KaoticEvil> what is beryl?
[07:18] <dsmith> moby_dick: Thank you very much, it worked just fine. It seemed I was somehwat confused as to how the process worked. I was s...over complicating the issue and learned to do it from the command line exclusively which locked out other ppl from doing it themselve
[07:18] <jtmoney> anyone here use kde wallet with knetworkmanager? i want to enable knetworkmanager to access kde wallet without prompting me for a password
[07:18] <robar> I just installed kubuntu. when i try to download opera, Kate pops up and messed up everything. its so frustrating. how do i turn off kate? anyone?
[07:18] <dsmith> now they have a link on the desktop
[07:18] <TheAngel> anyone know a good msn client for ubuntu? :)
[07:18] <dsmith> Thanks
[07:18] <dsmith> man: lol
[07:18] <jtmoney> TheAngel: kopete?
[07:18] <jerware> TheAngel or Gaim
[07:19] <dsmith> Gaim is goos
[07:19] <dsmith> Good
[07:19] <dsmith> aMSN?
[07:19] <jtmoney> brb
[07:19] <jerware> never heard of aMSN
[07:19] <dsmith> i never tried it
[07:19] <robar> I just installed kubuntu. when i try to download opera, Kate pops up and messed up everything. its so frustrating. how do i turn off kate? anyone?
[07:19] <Jucato> !opera
[07:19] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:20] <infocrash> TheAngel try gaim or kopete
[07:20] <dsmith> us msn web messenger
[07:20] <dsmith> :)
[07:20] <dsmith> *use
[07:20] <jose> amsn
[07:20] <dsmith> errr. wait I think you need IE for that
[07:21] <dsmith> which doesn;t matter as you have IE4linux
[07:21] <TheAngel> important is that i can use/see webcam..  to see my girlfriend :)
[07:21] <Kite_DH> works on Kopete too doesnt it
[07:21] <jbr> what port for MSN from kubuntu
[07:21] <moby_dick> damn I think I'm goin got have to archive my music on cds 600 megs just isn't enough room
[07:22] <Kite_DH> store it on DVD?
[07:22] <dsmith> Moby_dick: NASlite
[07:22] <dsmith> :)
[07:22] <moby_dick> NASlite?
[07:22] <dsmith> NASlite: cheap P3 server
[07:22] <dsmith> with large harddrives
[07:23] <dsmith> though it cna be built using whatever you decide
[07:23] <jose> what page is the best for download beryl?
[07:23] <moby_dick> ah ha ./kde/share folder has a bunch of archive shit
[07:23] <dsmith> lol
[07:23] <dsmith> trash!
[07:24] <moby_dick> night all I gotta finish gradin'
[07:24] <infocrash> TheAngel kopete supports the webcam
[07:24] <jerware> moby_dick are you a teacher ?
[07:24] <TheAngel> thanks infocrash
[07:24] <infocrash> any time
[07:25] <TheAngel> sorry if i ask those stupid questions like msn,, because im rather new ^^;
[07:25] <TheAngel> and im feeling rather noob
[07:26] <infocrash> i think that is why this channel is for
[07:26] <infocrash> good night all
[07:26] <KaoticEvil> HA!
[07:26] <KaoticEvil> i fixed me X server :D
[07:27] <jerware> KaoticEvil  what did you do?
[07:27] <KaoticEvil> jerware: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <jerware> because im soon this weekend going to do what you're doing.
[07:27] <jerware> ahh yes.
[07:27] <jerware> i knew debian had that.  didnt knew kubuntu did as well.
[07:27] <KaoticEvil> and since i know exactly what modes my LCD uses best... (1024*768@75) twas easy :)
[07:28] <jerware> nice
[07:28] <jerware> now you can install unreal 2004
[07:28] <KaoticEvil> remember that command tho... ive used it COUNTLESS times
[07:29] <KaoticEvil> im now attempting to fix my wifi
[07:29] <jerware> wifi is a bitch in linux
[07:29] <jerware> i had to use ndiswrapper.  ugh
[07:29] <KaoticEvi1> yup, got that done too
[07:30] <KaoticEvi1> yeah, i gotta use ndiswrapper as well... but it works very well, so i wont complain :)
[07:30] <jerware> sure there are no drivers for you chipset ?
[07:30] <KaoticEvil> im sure
[07:30] <jerware> damn
[07:30] <KaoticEvil> Marvell Liberitas
[07:30] <jerware> id rather get a new card.
[07:30] <KaoticEvil> eh... my other wifi card doesnt work *at all*
[07:31] <jerware> when i used ndiswrapper with wifi,  my whole system would freeze and it would say kernel tainted
[07:31] <KaoticEvil> neither does my ZyXEL AG-225H
[07:31] <KaoticEvil> USB wifi adapter/hotspot finder
[07:31] <KaoticEvil> it can also function as a wifi gateway... making instant 802.11a/b/g/draft n wireless network
[07:32] <KaoticEvil> which is VERY cool, if ya ask me
[07:33] <Kite_DH> ...hmm
[07:33] <KaoticEvi1> can you post that link for me again, jerware ?
[07:33] <jerware> sure
[07:33] <jerware> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:33] <KaoticEvi1> i wanna open it here, so i dont have to keep switching back and forth
[07:34] <jerware> sounds like you're using a windows box as a crutch
[07:34] <jerware> install w32codecs and libdvdcss and flash player.  doubt you'll need to toggle back and forth ever again
[07:35] <jerware> assuming you run windoze
[07:35] <KaoticEvi1> yes, i do.. XP and Vista Ultimate (32 and 64 bit)
[07:35] <jerware> ugh
[07:35] <KaoticEvi1> XP is my production OS
[07:35] <jerware> xgl can obselete all the vista features
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> Vista is just for checking it out
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> im a technician... i need to know the OS so i can help customers
[07:36] <jerware> whats a production os?  do you develop software for customers?
[07:36] <jerware> oh a technician
[07:36] <jerware> i do everything on linux.
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> production os... my everyday work os
[07:36] <KaoticEvi1> see, ive never reached that point
[07:37] <jerware> yea well when i graduate college, i know i'll be sitting at a windows workstation.
[07:37] <jerware> but may administer a unix server.
[07:37] <Kite_DH> :(
[07:38] <jerware> as long as i dont have to administer for windows.  i dont mind writing software for any os.  C++ is C++
[07:38] <Kite_DH> windows notworking station
[07:38] <Kite_DH> =D..lol
[07:38] <KaoticEvil> actually, ive found networking to be easier (at least home networking) on windows xp than on any other OS
[07:38] <jerware> i like Qt libraries
[07:38] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me with kdeTV?
[07:39] <jerware> KaoticEvil  but windows doesent support raw sockets nor datalink layer access from a program
[07:39] <KaoticEvil> jerware: i know... but its still easier to setup a LAN on windows
[07:39] <KaoticEvil> at least for me
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i do it all the time. don't worry
[07:41] <KaoticEvil> just easier to chat in one channel than to join a whole new channel just to continue a conversation
[07:41] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[07:41] <jerware> :P
[07:41] <KaoticEvil> lol nicer
[07:41] <KaoticEvil> -r
[07:42] <omar> hello
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> lol.
[07:42] <omar> thx ;D I'm having trouble adding xgl as a session in KDM
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> omar: got a link?
[07:43] <omar> to what? i was using a beryl wiki but it talks about configuring it with GDM
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[07:43] <omar> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl
[07:43] <omar> was using that..
[07:43] <jerware> where can i learn to install xgl ?
[07:43] <jerware> i saw it on a buddies laptop.
[07:44] <Kite_DH> did somebody read my question??
[07:44] <jerware> Kite_DH  well you didnt post a ligit one.
 can somebody help me with kdeTV?  <<< that one.   no.
[07:44] <omar> you can use that link i provided jerware
[07:44] <jerware> oh my bad
[07:44] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:45] <Jucato> omar: substitude "kdesu kate" for "sudo gedit" and you'll be fine
[07:45] <intelikey> Kite_DH if you have something more specific you are more likely to get answers.
[07:45] <Kite_DH> intelikey: i cant import channels
[07:46] <intelikey> ok that's a start.   now if you can explain that just a little     encluding any error message...
[07:46] <omar> jucato... that wasn't my question :) was trying to add XGL as a session to my kdm menu
[07:46] <Kite_DH> if i make a channel search, it finds nothing
[07:47] <Kite_DH> i found something to import kdeTV xml files, but i dont have something like that
[07:47] <Jucato> omar: ok, which part is giving you problems? there are instructions for KDE
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> omar: got distracted..
[07:49] <omar> well.. i followed the instructions, all the way down to making the xgl.desktop in /etc/X11/sessions
[07:49] <omar> and when i'm in the KDM menu i click on sessions and there's just default, KDE and failsafe
[07:49] <omar> no XGL
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm.
[07:50] <hakaisou> hello
[07:50] <omar> ohhh
[07:50] <omar> Note: I had to create this file in /usr/share/xsessions before it was picked up by kdm - Huub Bouma
[07:50] <Kite_DH> hakaisou: heya
[07:50] <omar> i just found that line in there
[07:50] <omar> going to try it and see if it works...
[07:50] <Kite_DH> hehe
[07:50] <Hakaisou> am i to assume that this is a good place to get help with kubuntu?
[07:51] <omar> i think that'll work
[07:51] <Kite_DH> yes it is
[07:51] <jerware> Hakaisou does it have the kubuntu logo?
[07:51] <omar> going to try now :)
[07:51] <Hakaisou> lol
[07:51] <Hakaisou> ok then
[07:51] <jerware> captioned "Linux, for human n00bs'"
[07:51] <Kite_DH> xD
[07:52] <Hakaisou> kite, i still need to register
[07:52] <Kite_DH> oh:D
[07:52] <Kite_DH> Hakaisou: so ure new with kubuntu??
[07:53] <intelikey> Kite_DH the only thing i see apropose is   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[07:53] <Hakaisou> yes i am
[07:53] <Hakaisou> new to linux actually
[07:53] <Kite_DH> intelikey: thx, iLL look at it
[07:53] <omar> ok XGL now shows up in my kdm menu but when i try to login with it, it sits at wallpaper and kde doesn't load
[07:54] <LL_Hakaisou> hey there we go
[07:54] <theangel> anyone know why i cant use adapt manager anymore?
[07:54] <intelikey> Kite_DH hope is at least helps you find a clue.   cause i don't have any to give...
[07:54] <theangel> it pops up something about my su password i do that.. and it says not availble or something???
[07:55] <jerware> sudo passwd
[07:55] <theangel> ok how do i open a terminal..
[07:55] <theangel> :X
[07:55] <intelikey> theangel   in a konsole     sudo echo yes
[07:55] <intelikey> !konsole
[07:55] <ubotu> konsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 710 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[07:55] <intelikey> !cli
[07:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:55] <intelikey> there.
[07:56] <KaoticEvi1> ok, ive got a problem here...
[07:56] <theangel> [07:55]  <intelikey> theangel   in a konsole     sudo echo yes
[07:56] <theangel> ive tried that.. it asks for my password.. then i stillc ant do anything
[07:56] <intelikey> jerware why exactly are you sujesting setting a root password.  that's not very likely to fix it.
[07:57] <intelikey> theangel but does it echo     'yes'   back at you ?
[07:57] <theangel> yes
[07:57] <intelikey> theangel that's a test to see if you can  "sudo".
[07:57] <theangel> it echo's yes...
[07:57] <intelikey> ok
[07:57] <LL_Hakaisou-WhoT> bah!
[07:58] <intelikey> so your sudoers is not broken.     when you run adept you do use your own password and not "root's" password don't you ?
[07:58] <theangel> i guess so yes
[07:58] <theangel> i only used 1 password..
[07:59] <theangel> 2 min ago.. i started adept manager without a problem
[07:59] <LL_HakaisouTwo>  /msg nickserv link LL_Hakaisou dudeman
[07:59] <LL_HakaisouTwo> shit!
[08:00] <intelikey> ok.   *just a note but the command jerware advised would have set a "root" password*     !adeptcrashfix   and follow it.
[08:00] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix
[08:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:00] <intelikey> ^
[08:00] <omar> you know how kde will rerun programs that were closed when you shutdown... is there a way to update when you wanna save that so when i do ctrl+alt+backspace it won't lose what i have?
[08:00] <LL_HakaisouTwo>  /msg nickserv link <primary-nick> <your-password>
[08:00] <LL_HakaisouTwo>  /msg NickServ link <primary-nick> <your-password>
[08:00] <intelikey> theangel also were you installing  java when this happened ?
[08:00] <theangel> dont know
[08:01] <LL_HakaisouTwo> did nickserv go down?
[08:01] <LL_Hakaisou> nope...
[08:01] <jerware> is java in the repos?
[08:01] <jerware> damn even slackware gaves you java
[08:01] <theangel> bash: !adaptcrashfix: event not found
[08:01] <intelikey> nickserv is not down.
[08:01] <intelikey> look at ubotu  ^
[08:02] <Jucato> jerware: yes, java is in the repos
[08:02] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-bin
[08:02] <ubotu> sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76680 kB
[08:03] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry to bother you guys, but I'm having an issue installing a driver for my video card
[08:03] <LL_Hakaisou> was wondering if anyone could help me out with it
[08:04] <intelikey> !ati
[08:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:05] <LL_Hakaisou> Intelikey, the console returned "no event found"
[08:06] <theangel> ok lol
[08:06] <theangel> had to reboot to fix it
[08:06] <theangel> anyone know a good mp3 player for linux?
[08:06] <omar> so does anyone know where the setting is that kde saves what windows are open and reload them upon startup?
[08:07] <jerware> theangel kaboodle or totem
[08:07] <jerware> omar  some where in Konsole
[08:08] <Jucato> omar: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[08:08] <jerware> nm
[08:08] <theangel> jerware: wich one looks for like winamp? :P
[08:08] <omar> thanks jucato ;) any clue if there's a manual way to save the session?
[08:08] <jerware> i dont know of any that look like win amp
[08:08] <Jucato> omar: yep. in the same settings
[08:08] <Jucato> theangel: xmms
[08:08] <intelikey> !ati | LL_Hakaisou
[08:08] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <theangel> thanks jucato
[08:09] <omar> oh ;)
[08:09] <omar> thanks jucato
[08:09] <Jucato> omar: set Session Manager to "Restore  manually saved session", then you get a Save session entry in K Menu
[08:11] <omar> ya just saw that
[08:11] <omar> jucato.. any clue why when i select XGL from my KDM menu and login nothing happens?
[08:11] <omar> kde never loads
[08:11] <Jucato> sorry nope
[08:13] <theangel> ok running a full upgrade now.. :)
[08:13] <theangel> thats never bad..
[08:13] <squall9900> hi
[08:14] <Kite_DH> little question
[08:14] <posingaspopular> !ask
[08:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:14] <Kite_DH> my adept says there is another adept running
[08:14] <Kite_DH> but there isnt
[08:15] <posingaspopular> Kite_DH: .... i know the answer
[08:15] <posingaspopular> but i forget the answer
[08:15] <Jucato> !adeptfix | Kite_DH
[08:15] <ubotu> Kite_DH: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:16] <intelikey> a spamite http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq seeme
[08:16] <Kite_DH> thx jucato
[08:16] <posingaspopular> blah see Jucato DOES know everything
[08:16] <Jucato> O.o
[08:16] <Kite_DH> yes he does
[08:16] <Kite_DH> master of kubuntu
[08:17] <Jucato> no I'm not...
[08:17] <Kite_DH> Jucato: while installing mythTV , adept crashed, now when i try to uninstall it, it says there was an error
[08:17] <Jucato> just master of this room :P
[08:17] <Jucato> j/k
[08:17] <Kite_DH> is there a way to uninstall it manually??...
[08:18] <LL_Hakaisou> aye aye aye...
[08:18] <Kite_DH> aw now it worked
[08:18] <Jucato> Kite_DH: try doing it from Konsole so you can get more descriptive error messages
[08:18] <Kite_DH> sry
[08:18] <LL_Hakaisou> how to i get permission to overwrite xorg.conf?
[08:18] <posingaspopular> sudo
[08:18] <Kite_DH> what was the cmd to upgade again?
[08:18] <posingaspopular> !x
[08:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <Jucato> Kite_DH: I thought you were trying to uninstall?
[08:19] <intelikey> !root | LL_Hakaisou
[08:19] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:19] <Kite_DH> Jucato: its already done :D
[08:19] <intelikey> !kdesu | LL_Hakaisou
[08:19] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:19] <posingaspopular> SUperuserDO
[08:19] <Jucato> Kite_DH: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:20] <LL_Hakaisou> ah.  thank you very much.
[08:20] <Kite_DH> thx
[08:22] <Kite_DH> g2g shower :D
[08:22] <Kite_DH> bbl
[08:22] <DaSkreech> How does upstart work?
[08:23] <intelikey> how does init work ?
[08:23] <ubuntu_> FUCK
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Ok fine How do I know what is the next step after executing /etc/rc.local?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !lanuage | ubuntu_
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanuage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !language | ubuntu_
[08:23] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:24] <ubuntu_> can any one help me please??
[08:24] <posingaspopular> !ask
[08:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:24] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[08:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:24] <ubuntu_> i have a 40GB HDD right
[08:25] <intelikey> DaSkreech hmmm  you know i should probably install upstart so i can answer that...     but in the mean time   dpkg -L upstart    might show where it's configs are.
[08:25] <ubuntu_> i made a partition for 5GB
[08:25] <DaSkreech> intelikey: it doesn't have a runlevel staet of mind right?
[08:25] <ubuntu_> and another one for 500MB for swap
[08:25] <ubuntu_> so i installed kubuntu on my 5GB drive
[08:25] <ubuntu_> then i try to go back to xp and i can't boot it up
[08:26] <ubuntu_> can u help ?
[08:26] <intelikey> DaSkreech i really have never had my hands on it yet.
[08:26] <posingaspopular> !grub
[08:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Blast
[08:26] <posingaspopular> that nice bot will help you out
[08:26] <LL_Hakaisou> hey i think it's working, thank you very much
[08:26] <intelikey> DaSkreech i don't even see a port of it for dapper
[08:27] <DaSkreech> I would very very much doubt that anyone would attempt that
[08:27] <pirothezero> man i see ubuntu_ and I just think of the ubuntu_'s that came before this one heheheh
[08:28] <intelikey> DaSkreech why ?   we've done  'bash init replacements'  building a deb of a package for an older version should be a snap
[08:29] <squall9900> hi everybudy
[08:30] <LL_Hakaisou> well, time to reboot and see if it worked.
[08:31] <intelikey> heh M$ taught us well didn't it.
[08:32] <intelikey> i'm going to change my fonts i need to reboot.    changed password have to reboot to see if it worked.   added new wallpaper rebooting..............
[08:32] <intelikey> shoot closed the wrong window.   have to reboot.......
[08:33] <Adydas> haha
[08:33] <intelikey> well i better hush before he gets back...
[08:33] <Cugel> Ah, finally new Firefox in the repos.
[08:34] <intelikey> install it and reboot ?
[08:34] <intelikey> :)    :)    :)
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[08:41] <LL_Hakaisou> crud, i missed a step
[08:41] <LL_Hakaisou> where is xorg.conf located
[08:42] <intelikey>  /etc/X11/
[08:42] <LL_Hakaisou> thank you
[08:43] <simson7> firefox and irc protocol
[08:44] <intelikey> yuch
[08:44] <simson7> firefox and irc protocol?
[08:44] <squall9900> hi i need help
[08:44] <simson7> in kubuntu
[08:44] <LL_Hakaisou> darnit...
[08:44] <LL_Hakaisou> "now see Modifying xorg.conf. Skip the "lrm-manager" and "depmod" commands."
[08:45] <LL_Hakaisou> for the love of god i don't know what that means
[08:45] <squall9900> what is irc
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> o_0
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> uh...
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> you're in one...
[08:46] <LL_Hakaisou> <.<
[08:47] <squall9900> ok is it just a chat
[08:47] <intelikey> Jucato is there any place to upload a few text files so someone can look at them and maybe add one to the wiki ?    can't just pastebin   it's about 750k of ascii text
[08:47] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry, none that I know of..
[08:47] <intelikey> ok.
[08:48] <squall9900> never mind =D
[08:48] <intelikey> !irc | squall9900
[08:48] <ubotu> squall9900: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[08:49] <LL_Hakaisou> it used to be used as a primitive P2P client, but not anymore.  now it's just for chatting
[08:49] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou /dcc send still work
[08:49] <squall9900> cool thanks
[08:50] <intelikey> words
[08:50] <intelikey> work'is
[08:50] <ilias> how to make firefox open the irc by clicking on a irc://foo.bar/foo link?
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> true, but i haven't heard of people using those functions in over 5 years
[08:51] <ilias> thanks in advance
[08:51] <intelikey> i don't understand why so many of my typos are "wrong hand" errors....    same key stroke just the other hand....
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> your hands are fighting over brain signals
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> you need to tell your hands to stop being so selfish XD
[08:52] <intelikey> or maybe my brain is fighting over hand signals...
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> the world may never know
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> anyway, onto my next task
[08:53] <intelikey> lol...   what is the differance in a duck
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> any advice on getting an Audigy 2 ZS to work?
[08:53] <intelikey> !Audigy
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> !Audigy
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> hey intelikey
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> why do you keep throwing up the ! commands?
[08:53] <intelikey> bot shows it's ignorance again.
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> oh
[08:53] <LL_Hakaisou> i see
[08:54] <LL_Hakaisou> it really is a bot
[08:54] <intelikey> !bot | LL_Hakaisou
[08:54] <ilias> and another question. Is gr.archive.ubuntu.com down ?
[08:54] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:54] <LL_Hakaisou> nifty
[08:55] <intelikey> to answer your Q.  cause i'm lazy and don't like typing in the answer if there is already a bot listing for it...
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> i figured that much
[08:56] <intelikey> ilias it's pingable.
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> well, scrolling still looks fugly, but it's not hanging up anymroe
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> more*
[08:57] <intelikey> mr. oe   :)
[08:57] <intelikey> anyone know the date format that touch accepts ?
[08:58] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm...
[08:58] <LL_Hakaisou> i wonder...
[08:59] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou's hands start to stink...
[08:59] <ilias> man touch
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> ok.  enabling ALSA
[09:00] <intelikey> ilias obviously you havent
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> still restarting sound system...
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> !ntfs
[09:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> hey, nifty
[09:02] <ilias> -t STAMP               use [[CC] YY] MMDDhhmm[.ss]  instead of current time
[09:02] <intelikey> yeah but i can't use the answer that i like cause the bot gets in the way.
[09:02] <squall9900> thanks for the help ubotu =D
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> that's a bot squall
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> XD
[09:03] <intelikey> ilias ok. thanks    where did you find that info ?
[09:04] <intelikey> !thanks | squall9900
[09:04] <ubotu> squall9900: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:05] <squall9900> wtf relly a bot
[09:05] <ilias> touch -t 0701012359 myfilename (year07 month01 day01 hour 23 minute 59)
[09:07] <intelikey> yes i understand the format you posted.   where is the information found ?          inet page ?    info page ?      (info is not installed here)
[09:07] <ilias> touch --help
[09:08] <intelikey> really.   heh i didn't think of that being more informative than the man page
[09:08] <intelikey>   lol
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> well that's interesting...
[09:09] <prak> is there anyone here that is familiar with planner?
[09:09] <intelikey> oh wait that's still not   -d
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i finally get my "stuff" partition mounted, and low and behold!!!!
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> nothing...
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> absolutely nothing
[09:10] <LL_Hakaisou> it's not formatted, so where is my stuff?!
[09:10] <intelikey> ilias    not -t   -d    but i can use the full -t   i asked about -d  "date format"
[09:11] <intelikey> ilias you waited long enough for me to forget   and tricked me... i see how you are.
[09:11] <illriginal> guys... I have this file: BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003  and when I take off the ".003" the file doesn't play... but when I leave the ".003" the file is not recognized.
[09:11] <ForgeAus> um .003? Im not familiar with that extension
[09:11] <ForgeAus> it looks like it may be part of an archive set or something
[09:11] <illriginal> there's 3 files to it...
[09:11] <illriginal> 001, 002, 003
[09:11] <ForgeAus> well maybe you need to join the files together somehow?
[09:12] <ForgeAus> or are they all individual wmv's in a set?
[09:12] <illriginal> ahh yes it tells me to use this program but it's for windows.
[09:12] <ForgeAus> there probably is a way to do it in linux to join files (I'm thinking possibly the cat command ... )
[09:12] <ForgeAus> but I aren't entirely sure
[09:12] <ForgeAus> which windows program?
[09:12] <theangel> anyone here got pokerstars to work? :)
[09:12] <ilias> touch -d yyyyMMdd (found by trying:)
[09:13] <illriginal> eek..
[09:13] <prak> is there anyone here that is familiar with planner?
[09:13] <ForgeAus> the gnome office program?
[09:14] <intelikey> ilias ah ok.   the old "try it and reformat methood"   :)
[09:14] <ForgeAus> try #gnome prak (or is it ##gnome?)
[09:14] <prak> ForgeAus: it's the gnome gantt chart planning program
[09:16] <ForgeAus> seems like nobody paying attention there to ask :(
[09:17] <illriginal> Can someone tell me how to conjoin 3 movie files into 1?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> illriginal try: cat {filename1} + {filename2} + {filename3} > newfile
[09:18] <illriginal> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 all need to be conjoined
[09:18] <illriginal> cat?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> (just don't type the {filename} bits literally, replace them with your BB.mon,o.co+numbers etc...
[09:18] <ilias> cat?
[09:18] <ForgeAus> yes cat... just try it... not sure it will work...
[09:19] <ForgeAus> cat is like type in dos... but if you redirect the output to a file, it can join things
[09:19] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 .> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv   ???
[09:19] <ForgeAus> I'm just hoping the + is the correct syntax
[09:19] <ForgeAus> no . before the > but yeah
[09:19] <illriginal> ok
[09:20] <theangel> anyone a ubuntu way to install flash into firefox?
[09:20] <LL_Hakaisou> HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!
[09:20] <intelikey> cat file1 >> file2 ;cat file2 >> file3      watch out for order.    > will over write    >> will append
[09:20] <LL_Hakaisou> !flash
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <Jucato> !flash | theangel
[09:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:20] <ubotu> theangel: please see above
[09:21] <LL_Hakaisou> i got that damn volume mounted!
[09:21] <LL_Hakaisou> hahaha!!!
[09:21] <ForgeAus> thanx intelikey...
[09:21] <theangel> !flash
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:22] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 + BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 > BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:22] <illriginal> ^ will not work?
[09:22] <ForgeAus> sorry illriginal intellikey corrected me
[09:22] <ilias> information on video file is in the header. If you concat them there will be no information on the header for the rest!!!!
[09:22] <ForgeAus> backread
 cat file1 >> file2 ;cat file2 >> file3      watch out for order.    > will over write    >> will append
[09:23] <theangel> thats.. even more confusing :D
[09:23] <prak> ForgeAus: it's the gnome gantt chart planning program
[09:23] <prak> nvm my last message, forgeaus
[09:23] <theangel> at the live cd,, when i tried firefox.. it gave me a popup saying flash wasnt installed.. then it auto installed..
[09:23] <intelikey> note that in the example i gave   and it could be done   cat file2 >> file3 ;cat file1 >> file3      the order is   file3,file2,file1
[09:23] <ForgeAus> hehe its ok I read it the first time
[09:24] <ForgeAus> intelikey they're named .001 .002 .003 ie strict order of the parts required to be appended
[09:25] <ForgeAus> so bascially you say cat... append onto file1, file2... then append onto file2 file3 ... wouldn't it be better to make a new file instead of changing the original tho?
[09:25] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 ; cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003
[09:25] <illriginal> ^ correct ?
[09:25] <illriginal> there's only 3 files.
[09:25] <intelikey> yep that's what i'm saying.    if you start on the wrong end   (like i did in both examples)  the result will be   prolly useless
[09:26] <ForgeAus> ie an output file... the .wmv file itself...
[09:27] <intelikey> ForgeAus safer yes  better is an issue of many factors   disk space, safty, security, ... the list could be long.
[09:27] <ForgeAus> intelikey, agreed but for this particular instance it seems more appropriate...
[09:28] <ForgeAus> .. but then I've obviously been known to be wrong... more than once
[09:28] <illriginal> so this is correct?
[09:28] <illriginal> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001
[09:28] <illriginal> ugh
[09:28] <illriginal> cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 ; cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003
[09:29] <intelikey> illriginal prolly not.
[09:29] <illriginal> ...
[09:29] <illriginal> may i have the correct command
[09:29] <illriginal> to conjoin 001 to 002 to 003
[09:29] <illriginal> and then make the output file into a regular vieable watchable wmv?
[09:29] <illriginal> viewable*
[09:30] <intelikey> cp BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>  BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:30] <illriginal> oh i see what you're doing...
[09:30] <illriginal> you're making the file BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv and adding 001, 002, 003 to it, yes?
[09:31] <intelikey> yes
[09:31] <illriginal> could i just do ..............   cp BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >> BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv and be able to watch it?
[09:31] <illriginal> assuming just to watch the 3rd part.
[09:32] <illriginal> or is file 001 the one that holds all the info of all 3 parts?
[09:32] <intelikey> if the header is on part 001 you might be able to watch part 1 that way  but not likely you can start in the middle
[09:32] <illriginal> ah gotcha
[09:33] <illriginal> thanks a lot intelikey
[09:33] <intelikey> np
[09:33] <illriginal> wait...
[09:33] <illriginal> i woud have to be in the directory of the files yes
[09:33] <illriginal> then the output file would end up in the same directory.
[09:33] <intelikey> or use the path also
[09:33] <illriginal> the path?
[09:34] <illriginal> right now they're all on my desktop
[09:34] <illriginal> /home/illriginal/Desktop
[09:34] <intelikey> cp /some/dir/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat /some/dir/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  /some/dir/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>  ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:35] <intelikey> replace  /some/dir/  with ~/Desktop/   and you would have the correct path
[09:35] <intelikey> the output would be in your $HOME dir
[09:35] <koriel> anyone knows how can I configure beryl so every new window I open get the focus and is brought to front of others?
[09:36] <illriginal> ah ok i dont need to be in the directory just put in the path
[09:36] <intelikey> illriginal the reason i gave that last example, is because you could have the sectioned files in a readonly location and still do the same thing.
[09:37] <intelikey> illriginal  that is correct.
[09:37] <Remi000> How do I register so that I can join Channel Python?
[09:37] <Remi000> Register on freenode..
[09:38] <illriginal> cp ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>
[09:38] <Jucato> !registger | Remi_
[09:38] <Jucato> !register | Remi_
[09:38] <illriginal> ^ correct?
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about registger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <squall9900> how do you register on freenode
[09:38] <ubotu> Remi_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:38] <sandro__> good morning - im still looking for a gui driven regexp play/test-around utility ... i find regexxer in adept but i dont dare to install cause it depends on >1 gnome packs i dont want to install .. any alternatives on kde or would you say "go ahead install the gnome libs or whatever..." ?!
[09:38] <LL_Hakaisou> ok lets see if this worked...
[09:39] <Jucato> !kregexpeditor | sandro__
[09:39] <intelikey> illriginal all paths are either reletive or absolute.  in the above example   ~/  always expands to your user home dir     if you are in a parent dir of a file you can use relative paths  like this  some/sub/dir/blah    if you are in the dir of the files to be accessed   ./  is a relative path   it's always where you are at the time.
[09:39] <ubotu> sandro__: kregexpeditor: graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[09:39] <Remi__> Figured it out...
[09:40] <illriginal> oh ok!
[09:40] <sandro__> jucato: thank you .. no idea why that didnt show up in adept when i looked for regexp
[09:40] <LL_Hakaisou> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:40] <LL_Hakaisou> MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!
[09:40] <Jucato> sandro__: it could be possible that you don't have the proper repository enabled?
[09:40] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: CAPS  please
[09:40] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry
[09:40] <intelikey> as well   ../ is the parent dir of the dir you are in...     note: when in the root dir (/)    ../  is still /
[09:41] <Jucato> we know you're happy :)
[09:41] <LL_Hakaisou> happy is an understatement
[09:41] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: you're ecstatic
[09:41] <sandro__> Jucato: yes you right.. someone in here helped me last evening adding some repos so maybe i didnt do a search in the meantime .. since i found and installed the kregexpeditor now .. thanks again !
[09:41] <LL_Hakaisou> after over twelve hours of screwing with this, it's now almost up to where I had XP home
[09:41] <illriginal> intellikey
[09:41] <illriginal> cp ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>  ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[09:41] <illriginal> ^ correct
[09:42] <illriginal> yes?
[09:42] <intelikey> looks good to me.
[09:42] <illriginal> sweet
[09:42] <illriginal> thanks again for taking your time :D
[09:42] <intelikey> d'nada
[09:44] <intelikey> nice nick... maybe i should  /nick skillUnknown
[09:45] <intelikey> you're back.
[09:47] <LL_Hakaisou> !screen resolution
[09:47] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[09:47] <LL_Hakaisou> *palm face*
[09:48] <LL_Hakaisou> !resolution
[09:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <intelikey> [ ~ = $HOME ]  && echo "yes" || echo "bad news ~ != $HOME"
[09:49] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:49] <LL_Hakaisou> what?
[09:49] <LL_Hakaisou> oh yea, how old are you intelikey?
[09:49] <intelikey> ah 40 something
[09:50] <LL_Hakaisou> lol
[09:50] <LL_Hakaisou> remind me of my dad
[09:50] <LL_Hakaisou> he's about 60
[09:50] <LL_Hakaisou> i still wonder what he'll be when he grows up
[09:50] <LL_Hakaisou> !system font
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system font - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[09:50] <kraut> moin
[09:50] <intelikey> you know i can remember when 30 was old...
[09:51] <bhrich902kubuntu> hello, need some help getting the bootsplash image, never came up after install
[09:51] <LL_Hakaisou> i need a smaller font, the default is screwing with my message boards
[09:52] <intelikey> !bootsplash
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <LL_Hakaisou> !font
[09:52] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:52] <intelikey> !dumb bot
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <LL_Hakaisou> !ubotu
[09:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:52] <LL_Hakaisou> !moron
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <intelikey> !splash
[09:52] <LL_Hakaisou> lol
[09:52] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[09:52] <Jucato> !botabuse
[09:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:53] <intelikey> Jucato did they remove the infonode on boot splash   or did i forget where to find it ?
[09:53] <Jucato> !usplash | intelikey
[09:53] <ubotu> intelikey: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:53] <bhrich902kubuntu> actually i ment usplash, just boots in a blank screen then goes to the desktop
[09:54] <bhrich902kubuntu> ah
[09:54] <bhrich902kubuntu> ill check that out, thx
[09:54] <intelikey> unless i'm mistaken that used to be linked to !bootsplash also
[09:55] <Jucato> dunno.
[09:55] <intelikey> and i only make mistakes on tuesdays
[09:55] <intelikey> and days that end in y
[09:56] <Jucato> that wouldn't be today, I guess
[09:56] <intelikey> well that does end in y doesn't it...
[09:56] <intelikey> so does yesterday
[09:57] <Jucato> nope :)
[09:57] <intelikey> but good news   tomarrow doesn't      i'm so glad...
[09:57] <Jucato> today is Miyerkules.. doesn't end in a 'y'
[09:58] <intelikey> had in mind monday, tuesday, wedensday, thursday,...
[09:59] <LL_Hakaisou> you know, i should probably go to sleep
[09:59] <Jucato> Lunes, Martes, Miyerkules, Huwebes.... none end in 'y' btw..
[09:59] <squall9900> ok do you guys go no #lurk
[10:00] <intelikey> Jucato are you only a smart elic on days that end with "s"  ?   :)
[10:00] <squall9900> i ment on #lurk
[10:00] <Jucato> intelikey: hm.. that would be 5 times a week? no that's not right..
[10:00] <LL_Hakaisou> !taskbar
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taskbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <LL_Hakaisou> !you know, that thing at the bottom of the screen?
[10:01] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: what about it?
[10:01] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou  /msg ubotu abuse
[10:01] <Vincent_k> !kicker
[10:01] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[10:01] <LL_Hakaisou> just curious actually
[10:02] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: ^^^^
[10:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it's called the kicker
[10:03] <LL_Hakaisou> that was a question...
[10:03] <LL_Hakaisou> <.<
[10:03] <LL_Hakaisou> >.>
[10:04] <intelikey> i'm used to  twm    and/or  blackbox    no "panel" in twm by default    and bb's panel is disabled by default i think...     but i don't gui much anyway
[10:04] <intelikey> Q. called kicker ?  A. yup.
[10:05] <LL_Hakaisou> well that's odd
[10:05] <LL_Hakaisou> not complaining though
[10:05] <Jucato> Kicker, the KDE Panel
[10:05] <LL_Hakaisou> i like the desktop switcher thingie
[10:05] <intelikey> konqueror  the kde browser
[10:06] <intelikey> konsole   the kde terminal emulator
[10:06] <Jucato> intelikey: incomplete definition of konqueror though :)
[10:06] <LL_Hakaisou> i know konqueror
[10:06] <LL_Hakaisou> kinda
[10:07] <intelikey> not really.    i had to stop at 'browser' cause if i would have gone any farther it would have started limiting that definition.
[10:08] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm...
[10:08] <LL_Hakaisou> this linux needs moar winamp
[10:08] <Jucato> O.o
[10:08] <ForgeAus> Konqueror is also a file manager
[10:08] <intelikey> it browses media:/ trash:/ file:/ http:/ ftp:/ man:/ info:/ ....  the list is long.
[10:09] <ForgeAus> I have no qualms in saying that since I've seen programs claiming to be file managers that do less of that function than Konqueror does
[10:09] <LL_Hakaisou> it's what windows explorer was to windows
[10:09] <LL_Hakaisou> and more it seems
[10:09] <Lynoure> LL_Hakaisou: needs what? If you want something more like winamp, try xmms, but frankly I like Amarok way better
[10:10] <bobofett> I would call Konqueror more of a URI Browser...broader term...ha
[10:10] <LL_Hakaisou> it won't play my mp3's from my ntfs drive
[10:10] <ForgeAus> which makes me wonder why the development on Dolphin, apparently Dolphin is "clean" ... (clean code-wise... )
[10:10] <ForgeAus> Bobo, nice view :)
[10:10] <intelikey> bobofett  <intelikey> konqueror  the kde browser
[10:10] <Jucato> you could say that Konqueror is windows explorer started properly, coded properly, implemented properly, done properly, everything properly :)
[10:10] <bobofett> Also I highly reccoment Amarok.  LL
[10:11] <LL_Hakaisou> come on... load... please?
[10:11] <intelikey> Jucato proper is like best  it's reletive and controversial
[10:11] <ForgeAus> ahh Jucato but Konqueror could be better than a properly implemented browser...
[10:11] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you are probably referring more to KHTML than Konqueror itself
[10:11] <LL_Hakaisou> why won't it load...
[10:12] <LL_Hakaisou> !Amarok
[10:12] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[10:12] <Lynoure> LL_Hakaisou: but you can read your NTFS drive from Linux fine otherwise?
[10:12] <LL_Hakaisou> yea
[10:12] <ForgeAus> no Konqueror itself... it can be improved...
[10:12] <bobofett> Everything can be improved...ha
[10:12] <Jucato> ForgeAus: as a web browser, KOnqueror only gives the interface for KHTML. KHTML is the one that does the rendering
[10:12] <Lynoure> LL_Hakaisou: that sounds very exotic. And you can play mp3s from other disks?
[10:12] <LL_Hakaisou> back on XP Home i ran the FEBE addon for firefox, and i was able to pull the firefox backups off the drive and restore my firefox client here
[10:12] <Lynoure> LL_Hakaisou: not just oggs?
[10:13] <intelikey> the only thing man ever made that has come close to perfection is  'a mess'
[10:13] <ForgeAus> as far as web browsing alone goes Ii still think Firefox is better than konqueror... but Konqueror is a GOOD browser
[10:14] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[10:14] <intelikey> Firefox is better than konqueror   <<  subjective speculative and made of personal openion.
[10:14] <LL_Hakaisou> amarok pretends to load for a while... then disappears
[10:14] <LL_Hakaisou> i moved one of the mp3's over to my desktop
[10:14] <LL_Hakaisou> advice?
[10:14] <bobofett> Forge I'm right there with you...I still end up "falling back" to Firefox more often than not, but I'm really getting more and more to the point where Konqueror is becoming my browser of choice.
[10:15] <intelikey> ForgeAus or in short i don't like firefox.
[10:15] <intelikey> :)
[10:15] <ForgeAus> intelikey true, I'm basing that on the fact that I have encountered more pages that Konqueror doesn't display as I expect the page to display than I have with firefox ...
[10:15] <Jucato> ForgeAus: then you are really talking about KHTML, and not Konqueror itself
[10:15] <Jucato> displaying/rendering pages = KHTML
[10:16] <reldruh> I'm trying to install wireless with ndiswrapper for a broadcom bcm4318 card, and even though ndiswrapper reports the driver and hardware are both present, I can't see the wireless card anywhere
[10:16] <reldruh> anybody have any ideas?
[10:16] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm, i like this adept manager
[10:16] <ForgeAus> Jucato I do like the interface/tabs, etc. better ....
[10:16] <intelikey> ForgeAus and you are also talking about code rendering that breaks iso to work properly.
[10:16] <ForgeAus> intelikey possibly
[10:17] <ForgeAus> but how people code their web pages is beyond my control
[10:17] <bobofett> Well Konq does choke on Flash in certain circumstance when you have transparency enabled on your desktop...but will work fine in Firefox...which is indeed something that needs to be fixed in Konq...but it's def. getting there.
[10:18] <reldruh> I'm trying to install wireless with ndiswrapper for a broadcom bcm4318 card, and even though ndiswrapper reports the driver and hardware are both present, I can't see the wireless card anywhere. Anybody have any ideas?
[10:18] <intelikey> ForgeAus that is that ff renders those broken pages better because it's coded for that broken code.   konqueror    as i have heard   was intentionally coded for correct code rendering.   so it might be all in what the standard really is     the bad code that we have so much of   or the iso standards that say  the pages are miscoded.
[10:19] <LL_Hakaisou> ok purged and reinstalled....
[10:20] <LL_Hakaisou> come on... please work amarok
[10:20] <bobofett> lol good luck
[10:20] <bobofett> so?
[10:20] <LL_Hakaisou> ugh... nothing
[10:20] <bobofett> damn
[10:20] <intelikey> ForgeAus so if i throw up junk code and call it a web page and it looks ok in ie   you will use ie to view my page ?
[10:21] <intelikey> was refering more to ie querks than ie standards...
[10:22] <bobofett> Well I wish I could help but I had the same problem with Kaffeine...just stopped working one day did all manner of uninstalls and reinstalls and still nothing...eventually got it up and running again but never played the files it played before...I know I screwed it by installing one too many codecs or something...but I just moved on.
[10:22] <bobofett> I'm sure there is a solution for that somewhere LL...but I have to go to bed..I have to be up in about 3 hours...ha.
[10:22] <LL_Hakaisou> intelikey: same thing really
[10:22] <house> I installed a package and it un installed synaptic, how do i get it back?
[10:23] <bobofett> search for it and install it again.
[10:23] <intelikey> "only differance in a bug and a feature is who wrote it..."
[10:23] <bobofett> Ok I'm out for the night...good luck LL...later
[10:24] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks
[10:24] <LL_Hakaisou> i wish i knew about Adept sooner
[10:25] <LL_Hakaisou> maybe then i wouldn't have fought with this thing for the last 4 hours trying to install ntfs support
[10:25] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou most like synaptic better than adept.   i just use apt (cli)
[10:26] <jbr> what port to #yahoo from kubuntu Or kopete guys??
[10:27] <LL_Hakaisou> soon as i get sound working, i'm going to bed
[10:27] <intelikey> !sound > LL_Hakaisou
[10:27] <LL_Hakaisou> !sound
[10:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:27] <intelikey> so now you have it in the channel and in a pm.
[10:27] <Mr_Pan> lagood morning
[10:29] <Mr_Pan> i have problem with Kubunt's update i have this error "dpkg: errore processando /var/cache/apt/archives/libarts1-audiofile_4%3a3.5.6-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:29] <Mr_Pan>  tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/lib/libarts_audiofile.so', che si trova anche nel pacchetto kdemultimedia-dev"   i haven't idea to resolve it... any suggestion ?
[10:30] <Mr_Pan> sorry it's in italian language  ....
[10:30] <intelikey> !kdemultimedia-dev
[10:30] <Jucato> !it
[10:30] <ubotu> kdemultimedia-dev: development files for the KDE multimedia module. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 181 kB, installed size 1808 kB
[10:30] <Forge> is there a #kubuntu-it?
[10:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:30] <_eMaX_> hi all
[10:31] <_eMaX_> in kubuntu, how can I /re/define which actions shall be taken when I insert e.g. a memory stick?
[10:31] <Jucato> _eMaX_: System Settings -> Notifications -> Storage Media
[10:31] <LL_Hakaisou> grrrrr.......
[10:31] <LL_Hakaisou> !soundblaster
[10:31] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[10:32] <Mr_Pan> ubotu, thanks
[10:32] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:32] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou your sound card recognized ?    cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:33] <theangel> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".   when trying to run beryl
[10:33] <flaccid> hey guys anyone know which packages are the equiv of mysql-shared and mysql-devel ie. i need mysql libs and headers?
[10:33] <theangel> anyone who can help me please?
[10:33] <LL_Hakaisou> is that a console command or a directory?
[10:33] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou cat is a command
[10:34] <Forge> theangel you need to make a symbolic link to where your dri modules are
[10:34] <LL_Hakaisou> comes back "no such fire or directory"
[10:34] <Forge> if that makes any sense to you
[10:34] <LL_Hakaisou> i have 2 sound devices on here
[10:34] <tzatziki> Does anyone know if gr.archive.ubuntu.com is down or is closed permanantly?
[10:34] <theangel> Forge:  not really
[10:34] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou typo ?
[10:34] <intelikey> cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:35] <Jucato> flaccid: libmysqlclient-dev ?
[10:35] <LL_Hakaisou> a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (apparently notorious for bad linux support) and a what I believe is a realtek on board sound card
[10:35] <arbi1> does anyone khow how t install ip1000 on kubuntu?
[10:35] <Forge> a symbolic link is like a shortcut in M$ Windows...
[10:35] <Jucato> flaccid: check  w/c version of libmysqlclient you have installed and install the -dev package for that
[10:36] <theangel> ok
[10:36] <Forge> the place where the link file goes is here: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
[10:36] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then, i forgot a slash
[10:36] <flaccid> Jucato: sweet thats installing now as my 1st guess thanks br0
[10:36] <theangel> and how i fix it mate?
[10:36] <shinigami> how do u set a proxy in mozilla firefox in kubuntu????
[10:36] <Forge> the place it links to is here: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri
[10:36] <LL_Hakaisou> yea it's showing up in there
[10:36] <Forge> (in my case anyway, hopefully yours is the same)
[10:36] <shinigami> couldn't find it anywhere
[10:36] <shinigami> !proxy
[10:36] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[10:36] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:36] <intelikey> LL_Hakaisou ok.   alsamixer
[10:37] <intelikey> check all setting.
[10:37] <flaccid> Jucato: you right on the ball br0
[10:37] <Jucato> flaccid: you're welcome
[10:37] <flaccid> i forgot you can search by filename, this one being mysql.h
[10:37] <flaccid> the header
[10:37] <shinigami> i found it nvmind
[10:37] <LL_Hakaisou> well that's interesting
[10:37] <lula> how to register ?
[10:37] <LL_Hakaisou> it's defaulting on the realtek sound
[10:38] <Jucato> !register | lula
[10:38] <ubotu> lula: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:39] <xine> >>>
[10:40] <Stanislav> hello
[10:41] <Stanislav> anyone nows if there's a spanish channel?
[10:41] <lula> there is
[10:41] <LL_Hakaisou> hey!
[10:41] <LL_Hakaisou> sound!!!!
[10:41] <intelikey> !es | Stanislav
[10:41] <ubotu> Stanislav: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:42] <Stanislav> Thanks Ubotu
[10:42] <flaccid> Jucato: setting up an sms gateway
[10:42] <LL_Hakaisou> |_|_ (>.<) _|_|   <--- this is what rocking out looks like
[10:42] <Jucato> flaccid: ooh....
[10:43] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm quickly running out of reasons to bootleg Vista now
[10:44] <LL_Hakaisou> if wine can run WoW and Battlefield 1942, it's pretty much sealed
[10:44] <Jucato> it can run Wine
[10:44] <Jucato> wer
[10:44] <Jucato> Wine can run WoW
[10:45] <flaccid> can wine run windows?
[10:45] <flaccid> :p
[10:45] <LL_Hakaisou> wooo
[10:45] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm dizzy from all the headbanging just now...
[10:45] <LL_Hakaisou> @_@
[10:45] <Jucato> intelikey: oh I don't know.. :P
[10:46] <intelikey> i don't either.  i'm no gamer   but i thought i heard all kinds of chatter about a linux port of that....
[10:48] <flaccid> all i know is that i frag hard on nexuiz
[11:17] <intelikey> ERROR: Can't open /dev/null in append mode (check permissions!).
[11:17] <intelikey> ERROR: Problem with internal logger.
[11:17] <intelikey> ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[11:17] <intelikey> ERROR: Problem with internal logger.
[11:17] <intelikey> permission is 666 on both
[11:18] <LL_Hakaisou> hey key
[11:18] <LL_Hakaisou> video drivers are working now
[11:18] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks for the help
[11:19] <shinigami> how do i install my lexmark printer?
[11:20] <shinigami> in kubuntu
[11:20] <shinigami> z516
[11:20] <shinigami> !printer
[11:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:20] <LL_Hakaisou> dang.
[11:20] <LL_Hakaisou> once this is set up right, it isn't so bad!
[11:20] <LL_Hakaisou> :D
[11:20] <hw> !commands
[11:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:20] <hw> !help
[11:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:22] <intelikey> hw what are you looking for ?
[11:23] <shinigami> where the F to find the drivers
[11:23] <shinigami> damnit
[11:25] <hw> intelikey: Nothing. Just wanted to know which questions I can answer myself by using !<command> =)
[11:30] <jose> wenass
[11:31] <jose> alguien me puede ayudar?
[11:31] <hw> Ja, was weiss ich denn :p
[11:43] <LL_Hakaisou> shoot
[11:43] <LL_Hakaisou> it would appear that i cannot install flash player 9
[11:43] <LL_Hakaisou> !flash
[11:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:44] <intelikey> 64bit ?
[11:44] <LL_Hakaisou> yep
[11:44] <intelikey> yeah k8 still has it's limitations.
[11:45] <Jucato> !flash64
[11:45] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:45] <intelikey> Jucato is that a chroot or 32bit libs ?
[11:45] <Jucato> dunno.
[11:45] <Jucato> I just know the factoid :D
[11:46] <intelikey> :)
[11:49] <waylandbill> k8 with limitations? BAH! so my sempron can't run 64bit. :-)
[11:54] <LL_Hakaisou> ok, i'm outta here
[11:55] <LL_Hakaisou> i just want to thank you guys again for helping me get kubuntu up and running to it's full potential
[11:55] <LL_Hakaisou> good night!
[11:57] <crackhead_> question: how does one 'add an installation repository source' for use with kubuntu? how does one install new programs, except with the command line?
[11:57] <crackhead_> ..i added jon riddell's gnu key, for instance, but how do i add the bleeding edge package repo source now?
[11:58] <crackhead_> anyone?
[12:01] <intelikey> !adept
[12:01] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:02] <intelikey> !repos
[12:02] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:02] <intelikey> crackhead_ ^^
[12:04] <lolo> !gaim
[12:04] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[12:04] <crackhead_> anyone know why my changing the root password was incomplete, that it is one password in the konsole and another password in the sudo launches of adept and other apps?
[12:04] <_eMaX_> Jucato: thanks (for the hint with the automatic actions taken on inserted drives etc.)
[12:06] <crackhead_> i set the root password in the konsole. it's different from my initial user password. i can su root with it. when i launch adept and other apps, and they ask for the root password, however, the new root password isnt accepted--only the original user password (which i guess is a part of the group adm or admin?)?
[12:06] <lolo> root has his password that you have to use with $ su
[12:06] <taomaster> hello- how do i change root password?
[12:06] <crackhead_> lolo, what do you mean?
[12:06] <lolo> while sudo uses YOUR password; the one of the user
[12:06] <crackhead_> what's the difference between sudo and su?
[12:06] <lolo> su changes the current user
[12:07] <taomaster> ok
[12:07] <crackhead_> taomaster.. you want the command passwd
[12:07] <taomaster> thats it
[12:07] <lolo> $ su is a command that you can forget on Ubuntu
[12:07] <taomaster>  thanx- been a long time since i been using kubuntu
[12:07] <intelikey> crackhead_ heh   sudo doesn't use the root password.
[12:07] <lolo> everithing has to be done with sudo
[12:08] <intelikey> !root
[12:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:08] <crackhead_> so, if it runs with superuser privileges, then why should it accept a "user" password, rather than the "root" password?
[12:08] <crackhead_> unless.. is it because my current user is a part of the adm, admin groups?
[12:08] <lolo> if you type $sudo -s, the sudo privileges are definitivelly taken for the cession
[12:08] <waylandbill> sudo uses the current user password.
[12:09] <lolo> yes : only the users who are part of the admin group are allowed to use sudo
[12:09] <crackhead_> what kind of security is sudo if it uses the current user password?
[12:09] <lolo> it ask for the password
[12:09] <intelikey> crackhead_ yes group admin == root jr.   on ubuntu systems
[12:09] <waylandbill> the whole point is so that users can do admin tasks without giving them the root password and full access to break everything.
[12:09] <crackhead_> i see.. so if i delete the current user from the admin or the adm groups, then it shoudl only accept the root password?
[12:09] <taomaster> crackhead-thanx
[12:10] <Erunno> sudo was invented to give specific users a subset of rights of root, without making him root.
[12:10] <Erunno> Ubuntu just took it to the extreme to replace root with sudo.
[12:10] <waylandbill> the power for sudo comes from the fact that you can further limit someone to only a single command if you wanted to.
[12:11] <waylandbill> many internet servers running unix have had sudo in place of root logins for years.
[12:11] <intelikey> Erunno well said    sudo was not intended to make people 'root jr.'
[12:11] <eeos> hi there!
[12:11] <eeos> my wife needs to edit a .pdf file, is there a pdf editor anywhere?
[12:12] <Erunno> kword can edit pdf files afaik
[12:12] <rolando> hi
[12:12] <rolando> anyone using automatix?
[12:12] <Hirvinen> !automatix
[12:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:12] <Hirvinen> !easyubuntu
[12:12] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:12] <waylandbill> eeos: If at all possible create the pdf again from the source document.
[12:12] <rolando> i know what i automatix, i have it installed and i have installed a couple of programs with it
[12:13] <rolando> but it is supposed to be able to install vmware but i cant find it
[12:13] <intelikey> [EaK] Rasiel bash_completion seems to use              nospace="-o nospace"
[12:13] <Hirvinen> rolando: Did you read beyond the first sentence?
[12:13] <eeos> waylandbill no it is not, she received this pdf application form she has to fill.
[12:13] <crackhead_> are the adm and admin groups the same user groups?
[12:14] <waylandbill> eeos: form filling. there's several programs that can fill in the forms if form support was put in it.
[12:14] <rolando> Hirvinen: now i have, but id like to use it at my own risk
[12:14] <intelikey> did i say that in the right channel ?
[12:14] <Hirvinen> !VMWare
[12:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[12:14] <eeos> waylandbill unfortunately, form support had not been put in it.
[12:14] <rolando> ok thanx, ill try from the multiverse
[12:14] <eeos> waylandbill it is just a plain pdf file. You would need to edit it.
[12:14] <waylandbill> eeos: at the very least, you can print it, fill it and scan it back in as a new pdf.
[12:15] <eeos> waylandbill yes, we can do that but she wanted to fill it online, and it was sounding like a resonable request. :)
[12:15] <Erunno> waylandbill: lol, modern computing does really ease ones life ;-)
[12:16] <waylandbill> eeos: but if it is an application that needs to be signed, you'd end up printing it anyway.
[12:16] <waylandbill> unless you have those cool touch screens that accept signatures. :-)
[12:17] <eeos> waylandbill no it does not need to be signed.
[12:17] <eeos> waylandbill :)
[12:17] <waylandbill> eeos: that makes it easy then.
[12:18] <rolando> hey how can i accept a license agreement when installing software with adept??
[12:18] <eeos> waylandbill how?
[12:19] <Erunno> rolando: Are you trying to install the Java VM ?
[12:19] <eeos> waylandbill I did not fid a way to edit the pdf. :(
[12:20] <rolando> Erunno: im trying to install vmware player
[12:20] <waylandbill> eeos: gimp
[12:20] <rolando> Erunno: and tab wont work
[12:20] <eeos> waylandbill :P conversting into images?
[12:20] <rolando> its a bit annoying
[12:20] <waylandbill> eeos: it can edit pdf documents after rasterizing them and save it back out as a PDF
[12:20] <tanf11> hali
[12:20] <Erunno> rolando: I've never installed vmware from adept, but it sounds like a similar problem that occurs when trying to install java
[12:21] <tanf11> mizujs?
[12:21] <Erunno> rolando: Try to install vmware from the cli
[12:21] <rolando> Erunno: you know how to solve it?
[12:21] <waylandbill> rasterized, so the output PDF's text will not be selectable. Basically, the PDF pages are graphical.
[12:21] <tanf11> bvmnvbmn,mvn.,mvnm.vmnvn.mmm..,nv....n
[12:21] <rolando> Erunno: yes thats a workwaround, but its not a solution
[12:21] <tanf11> vbnbvn,m.nv.m,n.,mnv.m,nvm,.vn.m,
[12:22] <Erunno> erunno: Not sure if there's a solution right now. I think that has to be fixed upstream.
[12:22] <Erunno> rolando: ;-P
[12:22] <waylandbill> Erunno: I thought the vmware player has to run a script to setup networking and stuff, so it would have to be done from the CLI.
[12:22] <waylandbill> sorry that was for rolando
[12:23] <rolando> but i should be able to install with adept
[12:23] <Erunno> waylandbill: Yes, now I remember: It runs a long script with a lot of questios.
[12:23] <rolando> just like any other software
[12:23] <rolando> and now i closed adept but something is still running and cant apt-get it !
[12:23] <squall9900> hi i gust installed linux but i have no sound can you help
[12:23] <waylandbill> but you have to answer questions about host and bridged networking. I don't know that it has been set up to run in any dialog... only in the CLI
[12:24] <intelikey> !sound | squall9900
[12:24] <ubotu> squall9900: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:25] <rolando> ill do it from the cli
[12:25] <waylandbill> the vmware server installer from their site does the same thing. It has to compile kernel modules as well. It's nothing to open a console and install it and it only takes one time.
[12:25] <intelikey> !adeptfix | rolando
[12:25] <ubotu> rolando: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:26] <crackhead_> question: when they say multiverse is non-free, what does that mean exactly? when you download and install a package, do you have to give it some credit card, or is it that you are just not supposed to download and isntall some of the source/packages without already owning a license to use?
[12:26] <rolando> intelikey: thanx configure -a fixed it
[12:26] <Erunno> crackhead: It's under a non-free (mostly non-GPL) license.
[12:27] <crackhead_> erunno, what does that exactly mean, though?
[12:27] <Erunno> crackhead: In other words, you don't have to pay anything unless you wish to ;-)
[12:27] <crackhead_> ah, so youre supposed to have a license.. i see..
[12:27] <intelikey> crackhead_  free generally refers to free as in free speach rather than as in free beer   in the linux world.
[12:27] <crackhead_> thanks for the info
[12:28] <Erunno> crackhead: No, no. The software is released under a certain license.
[12:28] <waylandbill> the distro prefers to distribute GPL packages. That's a repo that has ones that are not licensed that way
[12:28] <taomaster> anyone here ever use automatix2?
[12:28] <larson9999> intelikey: in the linux world, free usually means both, actually.
[12:28] <crackhead_> are there many other installation sources besides those default commented out in the adept list?
[12:28] <waylandbill> It would help you to understand if you first understand what GPL is.
[12:28] <intelikey> larson9999 mean != refer to
[12:29] <intelikey> larson9999 non-free was the question   free was refering to free speach in that context.
[12:29] <arriesp> hi
[12:29] <eeos> waylandbill can it save them back out as pdf? that is great! thanks!
[12:30] <larson9999> intelikey: yeah.  just pointing out that most of  the time things are free as in beer, too!  what a great country linux is
[12:30] <crackhead_>  are there many other installation sources besides those default commented out in the adept list?
[12:30] <arriesp> i have a little silly problem
[12:30] <intelikey> agreed
[12:30] <eeos> waylandbill by the way, what are the programs you were talking about to fill pdf forms, when the form support is enabled?
[12:30] <larson9999> crackhead_: yeah.  lots.
[12:30] <waylandbill> eeos: if it can't directly, there is a pdf printer option.
[12:30] <crackhead_> where is there a list of 'em?
[12:31] <arriesp> i can't see the windows by the k menu
[12:31] <eeos> waylandbill ok. thanks.
[12:31] <crackhead_> !repo
[12:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:31] <arriesp> i have to change the application with alt+tab
[12:31] <intelikey> crackhead_  main restricted universe multiverse
[12:32] <crackhead_> i know there are different classifications, but are there more than the list of url/repos that are commented out in the adept default installation source list?
[12:32] <arriesp> what can i do
[12:32] <arriesp> ?
[12:32] <crackhead_> that's what i was wondering..
[12:32] <waylandbill> eeos: you may need acroread to fill in form enabled documents. It's been a while since I've tried.
[12:32] <crackhead_> does linux need an antivirus program?
[12:32] <Jucato> arriesp: right-click on the panel -> app applet to panel -> look for the Taskbar and add it
[12:32] <Erunno> crackhead_; Additional repositoies should only be added in case you don't find an application in the official ones or in the wrong version
[12:32] <eeos> ah! thanks!
[12:32] <crackhead_> erunno, do linux distros need antivirus programs/protection?
[12:32] <intelikey> crackhead_ need no.  have yes.
[12:33] <Jucato> !virus | crackhead_
[12:33] <ubotu> crackhead_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:33] <crackhead_> i understand the basic concept, but i wonder if it's useful or used by the paranoid.. ha..
[12:33] <Erunno> creakhead_; That's highly debatable, but currently I'd say no. There are no linux viruses in the wild that I'm aware of.
[12:33] <crackhead_> erunno, do you use av programs? (not saying youre paranoid, but you seem to be knowledgeable..)
[12:33] <crackhead_> *gable
[12:33] <jay> Vmware complains that I need "XFree86-VidModeExtension" but i'm using Xorg server
[12:34] <arriesp> i think that isn't the problem because y can' see the ksysguard that i put on it
[12:34] <Erunno> crackhead_: I'm not, I just pretend to be knowledgeable. I just parrot what I read on the internet ;-)
[12:34] <crackhead_> haha
[12:34] <crackhead_> do you run any firewall?
[12:35] <Erunno> crackhead_: Linux has a build-in firewall, it just has to be configured. Afaik no application should have open outside ports anyway.
[12:35] <intelikey> modem reset....
[12:36] <intelikey> Erunno if you install ssh it automatically enables openssh-server
[12:36] <intelikey> it is not installed by default    up to dapper...
[12:36] <Erunno> inelikey: Good to know, I'll keep that in mind :D
[12:36] <intelikey> i.e. that would open port 22
[12:37] <crackhead_> ssh.. that enables remote computer use for a user, so that he can use desktop from far away over internet?
[12:37] <intelikey> si
[12:38] <intelikey> and sharing a printer will open 631 i think.
[12:38] <waylandbill> hmm. I installed ssh and the sshd wasn't enabled.
[12:38] <crackhead_> are there any keystrokse like alt+D or alt+L to minimize all windows of desktop or lock desktop/turn on screensaver?
[12:38] <intelikey> waylandbill which flavour ?
[12:39] <Erunno> crackhead_: In case there isn't one by default you can change the keyboard shortcuts in the system settings
[12:39] <Jucato> crackhead_: Ctrl+Alt+D = show desktop/minimize all windows
[12:39] <intelikey> crackhead_ in kde that is highly configurable.  and yes there are defaults
[12:39] <Jucato> crackhead_: Ctrl+Alt+L = Lock
[12:39] <crackhead_> yeah, i remember now.. thanks
[12:39] <flaccid> mayday mayday
[12:39] <intelikey> waylandbill ?
[12:39] <flaccid> theres a crackhead lifting up the bus!
[12:40] <waylandbill> intelikey: oh. just openssh-client. ssh package isn't installed.
[12:40] <crackhead_> what time is it where everyone is? where in the world is everyone here? Just curious..
[12:40] <crackhead_> (damn straight, i lift up buses)
[12:40] <flaccid> 10:40pm
[12:40] <waylandbill> intellikey: had to look it up.. :)
[12:40] <crackhead_> where is that flacc
[12:40] <flaccid> for loose change
[12:40] <flaccid> australia
[12:40] <flaccid> EST
[12:40] <crackhead_> new york, 640am
[12:40] <Erunno> crackhead_:  Germany (1 pm currently)
[12:40] <flaccid> haha
[12:40] <intelikey> waylandbill yeah   that's what i was asking.    ssh  is a meta package that installs both server and client
[12:40] <flaccid> ich bin macgyver
[12:41] <waylandbill> intelikey: yeah. I see that. I thought I installed ssh, but that may have been at home.
[12:41] <crackhead_> erunno, you guys have the best late night tv.. haha.. porn for free on all kinds of channels, if i remember right.. haha good stuff ;)
[12:41] <waylandbill> crackhead_: fellow ny'er
[12:42] <Erunno> crackhead_: No porn for free here, that's what the internet is for. But I better stop to be offtopic before I get banned again :)
[12:43] <crackhead_> would someone really ban you, when there are few questions being asked and the ones asked are getting answered?
[12:43] <crackhead_> hm.. maybe it was just the hotel i was at.. oh well.. night people; thanks for the help!
[12:43] <clau85> ~ban all
[12:43] <intelikey> crackhead_ it has happened.   doesn't very often.
[12:43] <squall9900> ok i think its a problem with the sound card
[12:44] <intelikey> squall9900  cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:44] <squall9900> thanks =D
[12:45] <intelikey> that will only tell you if the module is inserted or not.
[12:45] <intelikey> oh i forget this is windows halfway house    "if the driver is present"
[12:46] <intelikey> squall9900 is your card listed there or no ?
[12:47] <squall9900> i don't no i got permission denied
[12:48] <intelikey> "ubuntu; a halfway house for recovering windows users"
[12:48] <Erunno> Does anyone know additional sources for learning about qt4/kde4 programming other then techbase.kde.org and the official tutorials from qt ?
[12:48] <intelikey> permission denied ?
[12:48] <intelikey>                       cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:48] <Jucato> Erunno: those are the main and the best ones
[12:49] <Jucato> Erunno: but if you're looking for less official and sort of "3rd party" ones, you'll have to dig through Google
[12:50] <intelikey> why would switching runlevels cause a shell to exit ?
[12:50] <Erunno> Erunno: I'll stick to the official docs for the time being, there's enough to read and comprehend as it is.
[12:50] <Jucato> Erunno: those docs will last you for months
[12:50] <Jucato> *if* you really read through them all
[12:50] <squall9900> intelikey thanks
[12:50] <squall9900> 0 [rev50          ] : VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50
[12:50] <squall9900>                      VIA 82C686A/B rev50 with ICE1232 at 0xac00, irq 10
[12:50] <squall9900> 1 [AudioPCI       ] : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
[12:50] <squall9900>                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xc000, irq 10
[12:50] <squall9900> michael@Zelda:~$
[12:51] <Erunno> Jucato: Yeah, somehow I feared as much. And I'm ususally pretty thorough :P
[12:51] <intelikey> don't flood.
[12:51] <squall9900> sorry
[12:51] <Jucato> !pastebin | squall9900
[12:51] <ubotu> squall9900: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:51] <intelikey> so let me guess it's the Esonic that you are wanting to use ?
[12:52] <squall9900> any thing that gets my sound working
[12:52] <intelikey> and linux is defaulting to the via   ?
[12:54] <intelikey> squall9900       aplay -l
[12:55] <squall9900> no soundcards found
[12:58] <intelikey> squall9900        cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:59] <squall9900> i got 0 snd_via82xx 1 snd_ens1371;(
[01:00] <intelikey> squall9900 and you want the ens to do the work ?
[01:01] <intelikey> or the via ?
[01:01] <squall9900> i dont no wich is best
[01:02] <intelikey> one is the onboard most likely.  and probably it's the via    your box your call.
[01:03] <waylandbill> the best one is the one with the speakers attached. :-))
[01:03] <squall9900>  ens i guess
[01:03] <intelikey> ok         sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[01:03] <squall9900> brb
[01:04] <intelikey> at the bottom   add             options snd-ens1371 index=0
[01:05] <squall9900> ok
[01:05] <intelikey> and                             options snd-via82xx index=1
[01:05] <Jucato> lots of blank spaces :)
[01:05] <intelikey> save and exit.
[01:05] <intelikey> don't want him to add    'bottom add opetion...'
[01:07] <Jucato> :)
[01:07] <intelikey> ah man i've gota run.     sorry.  no choice.
[01:07] <squall9900>   cool thanks for the help
[01:12] <jack_> hi guys kopete keeps complaining that i enter the wrong password, and even if i tick remember it never does, i can only login via gaim.how do i finally make kopete remember the password?
[01:13] <squall9900> no sound
[01:13] <jack_> i used firewall, but it sometimes seems to block my dial-out traffic, how can i completely disable firestarter to try guarddog?
[01:14] <squall9900> i dont no sorry
[01:14] <jack_> i mean i used firestarter
[01:16] <jack_> what do you use to send text messages from kubuntu? skype doesnt habe this feature enabled
[01:17] <squall9900> sorry man i cant help i am a n00b
[01:18] <qurashi> hi, I have a hard drive pulled from a windows desktop and I put it in an external enclosure and then connected it to my linux machine via USB, trouble is I cant write anything to it
[01:18] <qurashi> and ideas?
[01:18] <Erunno> I'm trying to compile qt atm and get this error message during configure: The QtDBus module cannot be enabled because libdbus-1 version 0.62 was not found
[01:18] <Erunno> Any ideas ?
[01:19] <squall9900> do you have kopete gaim
[01:22] <Jucato> Erunno: libdbus-1-dev ?
[01:22] <Jucato> Erunno: which qt are you compiling?
[01:23] <Erunno> Jucato: Recent version from KDE svn, 4.2.2
[01:24] <Jucato> Erunno: but for what? for compiling KDE 4?
[01:25] <eeos> is it possibe to try out kde4 without uninstalling kde 3.5.6? i would really like to do some debugging :)
[01:25] <Erunno> Jucato: Yes
[01:25] <Jucato> Erunno: you don't need to (in fact not advisable to) compile Qt 4.x to build KDE 4.
[01:25] <Jucato> eeos: debugging for?
[01:26] <Jucato> they're not accepting bug reports for  kde 4 yet, and crashes are the norm, not the exception
[01:26] <eeos> Jucato helpig with identifyin bugs and so on.
[01:26] <panda> hi all, excuse me but i install ubuntu in HD 20go but ubuntu take 15 go !!!!!! Plzz I want win a diskfree
[01:26] <panda> what can i do ?
[01:26] <Erunno> Jucato: I'm a sheep atm and at the mercy of what's written in the techbase wiki ;-)
[01:26] <eeos> Jucato yes, but we can start testing
[01:26] <Jucato> eeos: no. it's not for testing yet either
[01:27] <Jucato> Erunno: exactly. follow it carefully. you don't have to install qt 4
[01:27] <Jucato> Erunno: anyway, try installing libdbus-1-dev for that error
[01:27] <jay> how do I start icewm after starting Xnest like this?
[01:27] <jay> w animation in beryl-settings...
[01:27] <jay> Is that normal?
[01:27] <eeos> Jucato in what sense???? anything you run on your hardware to see how it works and recording behaviour is a test.
[01:28] <jay> Xnest :3 -geometry 1000x800+20+20
[01:28] <Erunno> Jucato: Looks like package libdbus-qt-1-dev was missing.
[01:28] <Jucato> eeos: because there is nothing for users to test yet. everything is for developers only at this time. the snapshots are for developers to write apps with, not for testing whether kde 4 runs or not
[01:28] <Jucato> Erunno: oh yea, that one probably
[01:29] <[StingRay] > Hi anybody owning a Minolta PagePro 1400W?
[01:29] <qurashi> can someone help please
[01:29] <thomax> nop
[01:29] <eeos> Jucato so you cannot run it on the same machine as kde 3.5.6?
[01:29] <qurashi> I am trying to write to an external hard disk and it says I do not have permission
[01:29] <Jucato> Erunno: but you have to build everything in that correct order: dbus -> cmake -> qt -> etc
[01:29] <Jucato> eeos: you can run it
[01:29] <Jucato> you can install and run it if you want
[01:30] <eeos> Jucato is that going to affect any of the existing libraries?
[01:30] <Jucato> no
[01:30] <thomax> qurashi: sudo chmown yourligin:yourlogin -R /path/to/externalhd
[01:30] <Jucato> but there are currently problems with the latest snapshot repository
[01:30] <Jucato> the hassles of getting it installed is not worth it for the said reasons
[01:30] <Erunno> Jucato: dbus in Ubuntu already matches the required version, I had to get a new cmake. Until I understand I'll follow the instructions to the letter.
[01:31] <qurashi> thomax: will try
[01:31] <eeos> Jucato ok thanks.
[01:31] <rachid> bonjour tous le monde
[01:31] <eeos> we are also having huge problems with eclipse installtion.
[01:31] <Jucato> eeos: to be blunt, there is nothing users can do right now to help at this point
[01:31] <lolo> bonjour
[01:31] <Jucato> !fr | rachid
[01:31] <ubotu> rachid: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:31] <eeos> Jucato ok
[01:31] <Jucato> Erunno: which part are you on now?
[01:32] <Erunno> eeos: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development
[01:32] <rachid> comment faire je suis hyper novice
[01:32] <Erunno> eeos: At your own risk, of course :-P
[01:32] <qurashi> thomax: where you say yourlogin:yourlogin what does that mean?
[01:32] <lolo> thankk for *-fr
[01:32] <Erunno> Jucato: I was about to start compiling qt
[01:32] <thomax> qurashi: your username
[01:32] <eeos> Jucato thanks very interesting document
[01:33] <eeos> Jucato do you know anything about running eclipse on kubuntu?
[01:33] <thomax> qurashi: for me it would be sudo chown thomas:thomas -R /media/usbdisk
[01:33] <Jucato> eeos: nope
[01:33] <qurashi> oh ok
[01:33] <Jucato> Erunno: er.. hold on.... let me review that page... something seems to be missing
[01:33] <Jucato> eeos: the link Erunno gave is for compiling KDE 4...
[01:34] <Erunno> Jucato: I'm currently reading http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Unstable_Version and some of the recommended third party documents
[01:34] <Jucato> aha! something does seem to be missing
[01:34] <sc0tch> Any recommendations on ISO editing/creation tools in KDE?
[01:34] <Erunno> Jucato: Care to share your insight with the mob ? ;-)
[01:34] <eeos> Erunno sorry, thanks for the very interesting document
[01:35] <Jucato> Erunno: wait, looking
[01:35] <Erunno> Jucato: No problem, I'll go back to the SVN handbook in the meanwhile :)
[01:36] <Jucato> Erunno: that page doesn't give instructions in setting up the environment variables..
[01:36] <Erunno> Jucato: It does, there's a link to an bashrc with the necessary variables
[01:36] <Jucato> oh?
[01:36] <qurashi> thomax: that stilld doesnt work
[01:37] <Jucato> oh yeah
[01:37] <qurashi> it says you cannot write to directories where you do not have write permission
[01:37] <thomax> qurashi: is it formatted in ntfs?
[01:37] <qurashi> yeah it is
[01:37] <qurashi> i pulled it from a windows desktop
[01:37] <thomax> qurashi: no ntfs support in linux ;)
[01:37] <Jucato> Erunno: looks good. but if you were following it to the letter, why didn't you compile DBUS too? :D
[01:37] <qurashi> so I can write to NTFS filesystem?
[01:37] <qurashi> cant
[01:37] <qurashi> I mean
[01:37] <Jucato> not normally
[01:38] <Jucato> quasan: ^^^
[01:38] <qurashi> gaaah
[01:38] <Erunno> Jucato: Because it said that D-Bus >= 0.93 is sufficient ;-)
[01:38] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g | qurashi
[01:38] <ubotu> qurashi: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:38] <thomax> qurashi: atm not, but support is coming, I suggest formating to fat32 is compatible with win, linux and mac
[01:38] <qurashi> I would format it, but I need the data
[01:38] <thomax> copy it
[01:38] <gemini82> Hello, so I want to change the theme of the KDE applications, how do i do that? I have Xubuntu. Whats the command to start the theme chooser..
[01:38] <Jucato> Erunno: heh yeah, but that didn't get you the headers you needed :P
[01:39] <qurashi> hmmm ntfs3g eh
[01:39] <qurashi> ...looks interesting
[01:39] <Erunno> Jucato: You learn something new everyday, heh ? :-P
[01:39] <Jucato> !fuse | qurashi
[01:39] <ubotu> qurashi: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:39] <thomax> qurashi: atm its dangerous for your hd
[01:40] <Jucato> qurashi: btw, ntfg-3g just released their first stable (1.0) a few days ago I think.
[01:40] <thomax> Jucato: ah cool, didn't know that
[01:41] <jack_> hi jucato, what do you use to send text messages from kubuntu? skype doesnt have this feature enabled
[01:42] <qurashi> thanks guys
[01:42] <eeos> does anyone know anything about running eclipse on kubuntu?
[01:42] <TheInfinity> eean: here runs eclipse
[01:42] <Jucato> jack_: if I knew the answer, I would have answered you when you asked for the nth time...
[01:42] <eeos> we are having serious problems. it crashes any time you call for the documentation.
[01:42] <TheInfinity> and ... which text messages jack_?
[01:43] <Erunno> Bugger, what's up with make now ? Error message: -su: makeobj: command not found
[01:43] <eeos> TheInfinity we have installed from repository, then updated some features (in particular the php ide)
[01:43] <jack_> jucato sorry sometimes my connection breaks up
[01:43] <ForgeAus> eeos just install it with adept
[01:44] <ForgeAus> !eclipse
[01:44] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[01:44] <eeos> TheInfinity any clue about the constant crashes when calling the help?
[01:44] <jack_> TheInfinity: like from a mobile phone i mean
[01:44] <ForgeAus> erm really 121kb? I think not
[01:44] <eeos> ForgeAus tht is not the problem, the installtion is successfully done
[01:44] <ForgeAus> oh ok you installed plugins that are problematic?
[01:44] <eeos> ForgeAus the problem is it crashes when calling the help pages or any othe rdocumentation page.
[01:45] <Erunno> Ah well, seems the PATH variable seems to be not working somewhere. Works when using the absolute path for make.
[01:45] <eeos> ForgeAus only the php ide following the ubuntu documenttion (on the wiki)
[01:45] <ForgeAus> eeos I don't know much how to recover from issues with eclipse plugins...
[01:46] <eeos> ForgeAus thanks in any case! are you using the php ide?
[01:46] <ForgeAus> I had many problems with them on WindowsXP, each time I had to make a new eclipse install
[01:46] <ForgeAus> no
[01:46] <eeos> ForgeAus ah!
[01:46] <ForgeAus> only extended wtih aspectj and pydev
[01:47] <ForgeAus> oh and CDT
[01:47] <eeos> ForgeAus have you used extensively fo any project? what do you think of it? we are approaching it now.
[01:47] <ForgeAus> extensively? no mostly just done some simple stuff, but what I did worked
[01:47] <ForgeAus> I found it reasonably good
[01:48] <ForgeAus> and the fact that its got a plugin to integrate open office into it I found impressive :)
[01:49] <ForgeAus> 1 IDE many uses
[01:56] <qurashi> oh man- still no joy with the USB drive
[01:56] <qurashi> although I can now read and write to the windows directory on this computer
[01:57] <qurashi> talk about unintended consequences
[01:59] <thomax> qurashi: enable the removable device thing
[01:59] <qurashi> i did that
[01:59] <thomax> qurashi: with ntfs-config
[01:59] <thomax> ah okay
[01:59] <thomax> check /etc/fstab
[02:01] <qurashi> huzzah
[02:01] <qurashi> no need to check fstab
[02:01] <qurashi> just unplug/plug several times
[02:01] <qurashi> thanks thomax
[02:01] <thomax> qurashi: no problem
[02:05] <squall9900> dos anyone want to help a n00b
[02:05] <thomax> squall9900: depends what the problem is
[02:05] <[StingRay] > Hi all. I want to install upgrade cups to 1.2.8. As there is not deb package, did any of you manage to install if from source?
[02:05] <squall9900> no sound
[02:06] <tauri> hey i got a noob question too... how do i access my windows network?
[02:06] <Goontz> samba
[02:06] <[StingRay] > tauri smb://ip/share
[02:06] <tauri> um
[02:07] <thomax> squall9900: start kmix, and check in the user pannel in kconf wheter your user is in the sound group
[02:07] <tauri> so if i wanted to access a computer on my network, i would type smb://192.168.1.***/* in the command?
[02:07] <[StingRay] > Did somebody compile cups from source here?
[02:07] <[StingRay] > tauri, yes
[02:07] <squall9900> ok
[02:07] <tauri> ok cool
[02:08] <tauri> i just got kubuntu like... 3 hours ago
[02:08] <tauri> and its my first linux system
[02:08] <tauri> so i dont know it very well
[02:09] <guiden> if I want flash, should I install swfdec?
[02:09] <tauri> hmm it says there is no such file or directory...
[02:09] <squall9900> i cant find kconf
[02:10] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell tauri about samba | tauri, see the private message from ubotu.
[02:10] <[StingRay] > tauri, is the share oneword entry?
[02:10] <Goontz> tauri: try smb://<name of network>/name of computer
[02:10] <[StingRay] > tauri, can you ping the ip?
[02:10] <tauri> i have no clue... ill try goontz's idea
[02:11] <thomax> squall9900: kcontrol
[02:11] <thomax> my bad
[02:11] <guiden> gnash?
[02:12] <tauri> lol i had to dload that samba thing
[02:12] <Jucato> !flash | guiden
[02:12] <ubotu> guiden: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:13] <eilker> !kiba
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <eilker> !kiba-dock
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <tauri> hmm... is there a program that will let me run windows games and programs?
[02:13] <jsteinman> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu... can someone tell me where I can change the firewall settings?
[02:14] <eilker> !wine
[02:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:14] <tauri> heh ubotu is a smart 1
[02:14] <tauri> lol
[02:14] <xBill> !wpa
[02:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:15] <[StingRay] > !cups
[02:15] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:15] <LeeJunFan> !firewall | jsteinman
[02:15] <ubotu> jsteinman: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:16] <jsteinman> THX
[02:16] <guiden> I can't play google vide with konqueror
[02:16] <guiden> video
[02:16] <squall9900> no i dont think i am in the sound group
[02:16] <LeeJunFan> jsteinman: the first rule of network security is to not run services you don't need. If you don't run any services that listen for connections from the internet then you don't need a firewall. Or if you only run the services that you want to be available to the internet.
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> jsteinman: rule #2 keep your system up to date.
[02:17] <Cugel> guiden: What version of Flash do you have.
[02:18] <jsteinman> I have a firewall on my network already.... I need to turn it off on my system.
[02:18] <guiden> I just installed gnash
[02:18] <ForgeAus> erm gnash?
[02:18] <ForgeAus> not sure if that was a good idea
[02:18] <guiden> Gnash 0.7.2
[02:18] <Jucato> guiden: FLash 9 is available
[02:18] <ForgeAus> try uninstalling flash and then
[02:18] <Cugel> Yes, I suggest you upgrade Flash.
[02:18] <ForgeAus> !flash
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:18] <tauri> !flash9
[02:18] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:19] <guiden> my I have amd64 edgy
[02:19] <guiden> but
[02:19] <ForgeAus> I heard people had problems because there isn't yet a 64-bit flash?
[02:20] <tauri> what is the exact link to dload flash 9?
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> !flash9
[02:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:20] <ForgeAus> tauri its in adept not necessarily an exact link
[02:20] <tauri> o ok
[02:20] <ForgeAus> personally I don't actually know where the .deb is
[02:20] <ForgeAus> (just include the backports repository if you don't already have it))
[02:20] <Jucato> huh?
[02:20] <tauri> im updating adept now
[02:20] <Jucato> tauri: enable your -backports repository
[02:21] <tauri> me is updating adept
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> flash and 64 bit = chroot
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> !chroot
[02:21] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:21] <Jucato> ok, after you is finished updating, install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:21] <tauri> ok
[02:21] <Jucato> !flash64 | guiden
[02:21] <ubotu> guiden: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:21] <tauri> ill try
[02:21] <Jucato> tauri: if you already have it installed, it will be update
[02:22] <Jucato> updated*
[02:22] <tauri> ok well i just fresh installed about 3 hours ago
[02:22] <tauri> i dont have anything
[02:22] <tauri> so unless it comes with the install...
[02:22] <ForgeAus> Jucato what exactly are minitools for Konqueror?
[02:22] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I have absolutely no idea
[02:23] <tauri> so wine can run windows games and applications?
[02:23] <ForgeAus> tauri... some yes
[02:23] <LeeJunFan> tauri: to some degree
[02:23] <Cugel> tauri: yes, that is its purpose.
[02:24] <tauri> o.O
[02:24] <ForgeAus> !wine
[02:24] <tauri> lots of different answers
[02:24] <Cugel> But it won't run Office 2007 etc.
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> tauri: it's hit/miss. Mostly miss. It does a lot better job with applications, games are much tougher.
[02:24] <ForgeAus> #wineHq might have more info
[02:24] <tauri> lol office 2007 sux
[02:24] <Cugel> It runs many tools and games etc. There's a list.
[02:24] <tauri> o wheres the list?
[02:24] <waylandbill> tauri: don't expect DirectX 9 programs to run great. It's not that well implemented yet.
[02:24] <tauri> ok...
[02:24] <ForgeAus> I kinda like the ribbon idea in office 2007 but other than that I havn't seen anything that makes it worthwile
[02:25] <Cugel> tauri: although I agree, moving from Office 2007 to OpenOffice 2.0 didn't exactly feel like upgrading. But Koffice is good, too.
[02:25] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: ribbon idea?
[02:25] <tauri> i just wanna play warcraft 3 and some other games...
[02:25] <Cugel> tauri: that's the kind of game that should be runnable.
[02:25] <tauri> well i dont really use office at all
[02:25] <tauri> ok good
[02:25] <ForgeAus> yeah they're calling their toolbars a "ribbon" now... its bascially integrated context sensitivity and the menu's into the toolbars...
[02:26] <Cugel> Hey, the main repository for feisty has been frozen.
[02:26] <tauri> will the games run ok?
[02:26] <ForgeAus> (if I recall microsoft word for dos called their "toolbar" a ribbon too!
[02:26] <waylandbill> moving from office to OO.o wasn't bad at all. Their help documents are quite extensive explaining many advanced topics.
[02:26] <tauri> how do i see how much space i have left on my hdd?
[02:26] <Cugel> tauri: df
[02:26] <LeeJunFan> tauri: df -h
[02:26] <waylandbill> df
[02:27] <tauri> in the command thing?
[02:27] <Cugel> At last a question that we know the answer to.
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> tauri: yes
[02:27] <waylandbill> yup
[02:27] <tauri> ok 33gb left
[02:27] <tauri> :D
[02:28] <waylandbill> anyone who's used a word processor could easily make the switch though. I mean 90% of the time you use less than 10% of the features.
[02:28] <ForgeAus> hehe unless your me who fishes out features... just to see what it can do
[02:28] <waylandbill> :)
[02:29] <ForgeAus> but I must admit not much joy with M$ in that department
[02:29] <ForgeAus> since office 2000
[02:30] <tauri> !soundblaster
[02:30] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[02:30] <tauri> !drivers
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <tauri> is there a list of drivers that work on kubuntu?
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> !hardware
[02:31] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:56] <manu_> hi
[02:56] <manu_> i wanted to know if there is a program which can show me the bpm of mp3 files
[03:00] <dromer> hi all, I'm trying to install this VJ-software called eve. the website and docs are all in spanish though (or something similar :#) but in the doc it says I have to cd to the .tar.gz  and run the ./install.sh script  how do I do this? because in the console I can't (cd to the .tar.gz)
[03:01] <amsmith42> It sounds like you have to extract the .tar.gz into a folder first and then cd to that folder.
[03:01] <dromer> ah .. right ;/
[03:05] <_eMaX_> hi all
[03:05] <_eMaX_> how can I specify that with automounted partitions (e.g. usb drives), I automatically have exec rights on that partition?
[03:07] <amsmith42> I've got an easier one: How do I get out of 'view'?
[03:07] <amsmith42> lol
[03:08] <jack_> hi my microphone doesnt work, though all sounds are played properly, and the modules  snd_pcm_oss,,snd_mixer_oss come up with lsmod, the problem appears with skype, i have alsa and the oss
[03:09] <waylandbill> jack_: does it work in other programs?
[03:09] <jack_> waylandbill, was just about checkin, where could i record sound to test the mic?
[03:11] <waylandbill> jack_: you may have to get something from apt to.
[03:13] <waylandbill> I see there is a 'sound-recorder' available. that should do.
[03:13] <_Johny> does someone know why my movies freeze for a second, then get back to play normally? The same movies play by the mplayer engine works fine and don't freeze. I'm using Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 with the default ati driver and 2.6.17-10 generic kernel.
[03:14] <jack_> waylandbill, no it doesnt work with other programmes, i teste the sound recorder
[03:16] <_Johny> and My graphic card is Radeon M 9700 256 RAM
[03:17] <waylandbill> jack_: is it unmuted and mixed to a good level?
[03:18] <waylandbill> jack_: the input tab of kmix should show you.
[03:19] <jack_> in kmix the input capture is full on, and as device it says HDA Intel, like in the skype microphone settings waylandbill
[03:21] <waylandbill> and the little mute led for it is "on"
[03:21] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:22] <Erunno> _Johny: I've no idea how to fix your problem, but as a workaround you could try switching to the mplayer engine in kaffeine.
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> stdin: wow! that's insane.
[03:23] <jack_> waylandbill, yes, first thing i made sure
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> stdin: and I thought XP took a long time.
[03:23] <BluesKaj> stdin:  running a mac ?
[03:23] <_Johny> Erunno: ok, I'll try
[03:23] <stdin> BluesKaj: god no, but I'm installing it in pearpc (mac emulator)
[03:24] <stdin> LeeJunFan: it's almost 1/3 done, and 1hour 57mins to go :P
[03:24] <stdin> I got curious about OSX, so I decided to take a look
[03:24] <BluesKaj> stdin:  how does the cpu handle that ?
[03:25] <stdin> BluesKaj: I would think that pearpc translates the mac cpu calls to intel ones
[03:25] <BluesKaj> right
[03:26] <stdin> may be a reason it's so slow atm
[03:27] <Dr_willis> stdin,  ive 'seen' os-x vmware 'sessions/appliances/downloads' (but not legally)
[03:28] <stdin> Dr_willis: is that the intel version tho?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> stdin,  yea. :) for vmware it only does intel-cpu's dont it? never noticed if vmware can do ppc.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> the fact that it worked.. impressed me.
[03:30] <stdin> Dr_willis: yeah, only x86, but I'm using a OSX inatall DVD from a friend, and it's for mac architecture (ppc?)
[03:31] <stdin> OSX installer running in PearPC on feisty -> http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot17qs0.jpg
[03:36] <Dr_willis> os-x the prettiest os i hate to use.. :)
[03:38] <_Johny> Is there any way to verify whether the graphics drivers are installed properly?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> play a game? :)
[03:38] <_Johny> The game work but the screen freeze for a second with movies, games, screensavers
[03:39] <_Johny> Nopw It used to happen when I used fglrx driver, now I've switched back to the ATI one, nothing changed though
[03:40] <Dr_willis> what video card ya got?
[03:40] <jack_> waylandbill?
[03:42] <waylandbill> jack_: yeah. sorry. was compiling some stuff. If it's detected and not muted (and you have the correct line selected) you should be all set.
[03:42] <waylandbill> does kmix show more than one input line?
[03:43] <_Johny> Dr_willis: ATI Radeon M 9700 256 RAM
[03:43] <jack_> what do you mean the correct line selected? waylanuted,dbill? it is detected and not muted
[03:44] <waylandbill> jack_: mixer lines.
[03:44] <jack_> waylandbill where do i find them?
[03:45] <waylandbill> jack_: a sound card has multiple mixer lines. It could have mic, line in, cdrom, auxillary and that's all sound card dependent.
[03:45] <Dr_willis> _Johny,  hmm that should work fine with the fglrx drivers. thats on a laptop? I got a 9700pro on my desktop that works fine with them.
[03:45] <eeos> hi there.
[03:45] <waylandbill> jack_: kmix's input tab. how many lines does it show? it should have a volume slider for each one.
[03:46] <eeos> the sound from my sound card (hda) is broken, it jumps (ta-ta-ta-ta). Anyone experiencing the same problem?
[03:47] <_Johny> Dr_willis: yes , its a laptop but I must've messed up something with the drivers, becouse it happens with ATI and "fglrx" driver. I'd like to delete all the video drivers, but for now don't know how to do that.
[03:47] <jack_> waylandbill there is only one slider
[03:47] <waylandbill> jack_: ok. then you got the right one. lol
[03:48] <Dr_willis> _Johny,  theres not really 'deleting' the drivers.. editing the xorg.conf  just uses the other ones.. try a reboot.. :) ive seen the ati drivers get loaded and confused at times..  often editing the xorg.conf and reb ooting  kicked them in the head for me.
[03:48] <waylandbill> jack_: even though there is only one, is there multiple jacks to plug the mic into the sound card? or is this a usb mic?
[03:49] <_Johny> Dr_willis: do you mean deleting the "drivers" line in xorg.conf?
[03:49] <jack_> waylandbill it is a built in microphone
[03:50] <Dr_willis> _Johny,  you set the drivers line to use whatever driver you want.. delete it and X wont use any - and thus wont run.
[03:50] <jack_> waylandbill in the laptop, so i really dont know about the jacks
[03:51] <xBill> johny: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:51] <waylandbill> jack_: ok. hmm. I've thought about just about everything I could outside hardware that would keep the mic from working.
[03:51] <_Johny> xBill: Does it do the same as "Dr_willis" said?
[03:52] <jack_> waylandbill, i have the newest alsa driver, but i did try out oss too
[03:53] <xBill> Johny: you can manually specify the driver X should use (and some else things)
[03:54] <_Johny> xBill: Ok, I'll try
[03:57] <waylandbill> jack_: kmix has a switches tab as well. maybe one of those need to be turned on.
[03:58] <busfahrer> Excuse me, what do I have to do in order to get stuff like i686-linux-pc-gnu-gcc etc? I want to use my Ubuntu system as a distcc workslave. :-)
[03:59] <waylandbill> busfahrer: you grab build-essential and distcc yet?
[03:59] <busfahrer> waylandbill: Nope, thats the stuff I'm looking for :-)
[03:59] <jack_> waylandbill, i just have input and output, no switches
[04:00] <waylandbill> jack_: it was worth a try.
[04:00] <busfahrer> waylandbill: what now?
[04:00] <meduxa> hi, all. Does anybody knows about the Conference it will take place in Sevilla? We want to participate showing mEDUXa Where is the URL of the event?, I don't find it
[04:01] <waylandbill> busfahrer: I can tell you to apt-get those packages, but building a distcc server is a little more work than one can do on irc. :-)
[04:01] <meduxa> and another question...is just an Ubuntu conf. or also a Kubuntu conf?
[04:03] <jack_> waylandbill my guarddog blocks hotmail.co.uk at port 443, but if i allow this port and http it still doesnt work, all websites apart from that work fine, without guarddog it works fine too
[04:04] <BluesKaj> meduxa:  try this site : http://linuxlookup.com/2007/feb/12/upcoming_ubuntu_events_may_and_july_2007
[04:04] <waylandbill> jack_: it might be trying another port as well. maybe ssl port 995 or something.
[04:04] <meduxa> BluesKaj: thanks
[04:05] <waylandbill> jack_: you could try sniffing with wireshark or something.
[04:05] <BluesKaj> meduxa:  just used google :)
[04:06] <waylandbill> jack_: if you try sniffing, make sure it is with the firewall off of course.
[04:07] <jack_> i do waylandbill thanks
[04:07] <meduxa> BluesKaj: so do I, but couldn't find it, don't know why. Thanks again
[04:08] <BluesKaj> np
[04:14] <Erunno> Does anyone know to which package LibXml2 and LibXslt belong to ?
[04:15] <stdin> !find libxml2
[04:15] <ubotu> Found: libxml2, libxml2-dbg, libxml2-dev, libxml2-doc, libxml2-utils (and 1 others)
[04:15] <stdin> !find libxslt
[04:15] <ubotu> Found: libxslt1-dbg, libxslt1-dev, libxslt1.1, libxsltc-java, python-libxslt1 (and 3 others)
[04:15] <stdin> check those out
[04:15] <Erunno> stdin: Thanks, will do.
[04:16] <Jucato> Erunno: clue. when configure complains of missing headers/libs, look for the -dev package for that missing part
[04:17] <Erunno> Jucato: Okey. I'm slowly getting the hang of it ;-)
[04:17] <Jucato> Erunno: and apt-cache search and grep will be your best friend
[04:17] <Jucato> friends*
[04:17] <stdin> apt-file is nice too
[04:17] <jhutchins> Erunno: apt-file search LibXml2 Might give you more specific info.
[04:18] <Erunno> Jucato: I'm already on friendly terms with aptitude.
[04:18] <jhutchins> Erunno: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[04:18] <waylandbill> :)
[04:18] <Jucato> aptitude's search isn't as good as apt-cache's though
[04:18] <waylandbill> it's easy to get on friendly terms with aptitude
[04:18] <Jucato> or probably needs a few flags
[04:19] <Jucato> stdin, jhutchins: might be good to tell him to install apt-file too :)
[04:19] <stdin> ok, Erunno, install apt-file too :)
[04:20] <Erunno> stdin: lol, will do :D
[04:20] <stdin> you can use "apt-file search filename" to find what package a file is in
[04:20] <Erunno> Jucato: Erunno will read the manpage and consult google ;-)
[04:20] <stdin> and "apt-file show package" to find what files are in a package
[04:20] <Jucato> you can also do it online in packages.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <stdin> also you can use apt:/ in konq :)
[04:22] <Erunno> stdin: Hey, didn't know that ioslave.
[04:22] <jhutchins> The question is far more often "what package provides" than "what package has this in it's name".  The redundancy of the latter results is not terribly useful.
[04:23] <cox377> whats the best media player to use when streaming music over a network?
[04:23] <Erunno> Apropos, a little off-topic but does anyone know what the backports repository is good ? Can't be for actual backports of applications, it's almost empty.
[04:23] <Erunno> Jucato: Goodnight and thanks for the help ! :))
[04:24] <Jucato> what help?
[04:24] <Jucato> Erunno: what is empty?
[04:24] <waylandbill> Erunno: backports allows newer software than what was written for the distro to be installed.
[04:24] <visit0r> why I cannot add other than Samba printers on Add printer wizard on Feisty?
[04:24] <Erunno> waylandbill: I know, It just seems a little bit underused these days :-P
[04:24] <waylandbill> :)
[04:24] <Jucato> Erunno: you can only get Flash 9 and Java 6 from -backports
[04:25] <jhutchins> visit0r: Feisty is available so you can find problems like this and report them so they can be fixed.  It is not expected to actually work.
[04:25] <waylandbill> if you were on dapper or something, you'll probably see more backports
[04:25] <Jucato> visit0r: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <Jucato> waylandbill: probably, but not always, given Dapper's LTS nature
[04:26] <jhutchins> visit0r: However, problems with adding printers are pretty well known through Edgy, so it may be the same thing.
[04:26] <jhutchins> visit0r: Check this and see if it helps: 	http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd
[04:26] <visit0r> thanks
[04:27] <jhutchins> I don't think anybody's actually tried to figure out what the problem is with adding pritners through System Settings, most just go directly to cups, encounter and fix the admin problem there, and move on.
[04:27] <visit0r> nice
[04:27] <waylandbill> Erunno, Jucato: looking at the aptitude manual you can see that the search is as effective as apt-cache when you use the regexp interface. Like ~d(term) will do descriptions like apt-cache does.
[04:28] <Jucato> waylandbill: it must be ~d(term)? not ~term?
[04:28] <jhutchins> Since, once you've done that, you don't need to add a printer any more, I know I never went back to see if the System Settings thing was fixed.
[04:28] <waylandbill> Jucato: that's what the docs say
[04:29] <coreymon77> jhutchins: oaky, so about my card
[04:29] <waylandbill> I think ~term filters out matches
[04:29] <jhutchins> Aieeee!
[04:29] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  cups is quite straightforward once you figure out the meanings of the settings in the setup wizard :)
[04:29] <coreymon77> jhutchins: how do we find out which driver it is using
[04:31] <coreymon77> wait
[04:31] <coreymon77> who is having printer problems
[04:32] <visit0r> I am
[04:32] <visit0r> just filed a bug report
[04:32] <Jucato> waylandbill: seems like you're correct, though I can't see where you got the ~d part from the man page
[04:32] <visit0r> coreymon77: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/88671
[04:32] <athlon> Is it feasible to try upgrading from Dapper to Feisty ?
[04:33] <stdin> athlon: no, you'll have to go: Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty
[04:33] <Jucato> athlon: afaik, no. you have to go through Edgy
[04:33] <athlon> kay, thanks
[04:33] <Erunno> Can anyone explain me the error make gives: -su: makeobj: command not found ?
[04:33] <stdin> athlon: and remember, Feisty is still Alpha, so is unstable
[04:33] <Jucato> Erunno: what command are you using?
[04:34] <Erunno> Jucato: make
[04:34] <Jucato> hm...
[04:34] <coreymon77> Erunno: use sudo not su
[04:35] <BluesKaj> hmmm... I hope they solve the network printer problem before fiesty is launched ...have mine working fine now after a month of struggle to get it working
[04:35] <Jucato> actually, don't use sudo either
[04:35] <Jucato> "make" only
[04:35] <BluesKaj> in edgy
[04:35] <Mena_> What is the menu.lst What is the use of it ?
[04:35] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: for me the network printer was easy, i just put in tis ip adress, and it works
[04:35] <stdin> Mena_: it's the config file for grub
[04:36] <Erunno> coreymon77: I use neither su nor sudo, I just switched to my development account with su - (loginshell)
[04:36] <Jucato> ah
[04:36] <Jucato> hm.
[04:36] <thomax> Mena_: it's your grub menu
[04:36] <Erunno> That is, I switched to the devel user a couple of hours ago.
[04:36] <Mena_> stdin, so after renisalling xp i can edit it to enabel log to it .....Bec i realy want not to remove kubuntu 6.10 until next realese
[04:37] <warja> hola
[04:37] <Jucato> Erunno: try to install makeobj?
[04:37] <stdin> Erunno: from the package kdesdk-scripts
[04:37] <thomax> Mena_: you have to reinstall grub
[04:37] <Jucato> stdin: let me guess? apt-file?
[04:37] <Mena_> thomax, realy :) how ???
[04:37] <stdin> Mena_: if you install XP after, then you'll need to reinstall grub
[04:37] <stdin> Jucato: yeah :)
[04:38] <stdin> !grub | Mena_
[04:38] <coreymon77> Mena_: use a livecd
[04:38] <ubotu> Mena_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:38] <Jucato> stdin: packages.ubuntu.com :)
[04:38] <coreymon77> you can use it to restore grub
[04:38] <Mena_> coremon77, ok
[04:38] <stdin> Jucato: apt:/fsearch?makeobj :P
[04:38] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Did we determine if it worked running from the live CD?
[04:38] <coreymon77> jhutchins: who, me?
[04:38] <Jucato> stdin: no. because that only uses dpkg -S afaik
[04:38] <coreymon77> jhutchins: you mean my sound?
[04:39] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yes.
[04:39] <coreymon77> jhutchins: no, it didnt
[04:39] <jhutchins> Do you have a lot of free disk space?
[04:39] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, but I knew I had it installed, so I could do that, because apt-file takes forever :P
[04:39] <Jucato> stdin: heh
[04:40] <Jucato> I had it installed after all :)
[04:40] <coreymon77> jhutchins: me?
[04:40] <jhutchins> stdin: It's searching through the contents of like 20,000 packages.
[04:40] <stdin> Jucato: or you can do: /msg ubotu find makeobj
[04:40] <stdin> saves my CPU then :P
[04:40] <Jucato> stdin: I don't trust ubotu's intelligence that much
[04:41] <coreymon77> jhutchins: you said something before about finding out what driver my card is using, and what driver it should be using
[04:41] <stdin> Jucato: well, neither do I, but it's not too bad most of the time
[04:41] <coreymon77> jhutchins: how do i check these things
[04:41] <jhutchins> df
[04:41] <Jucato> stdin: and I can't seem to remember !find = packages vs. !search = factoids...
[04:41] <Jucato> I always mix them up
[04:42] <coreymon77> jhutchins: how do i find out what driver it is currently using at this moment?
[04:42] <patriciacaba> jucato: what is your name? my name is stdin:)
[04:42] <Jucato> O.o
[04:42] <jhutchins> coreymon77: lsmod
[04:43] <Erunno> Jucato, stdin: Okey, the script did it. ThanksI'll probably spend the next weeks with reading docs and manpages to learn the tools.
[04:43] <patriciacaba> jucato: je je
[04:43] <Mena_> stdin, if i insatlled xp on the same part do i need also to reninstall grub.. or xp will log on without boot menu
[04:43] <patriciacaba> Jucato: spiking with my ok?
[04:44] <thomax> xp will logon automatically
[04:44] <Jucato> huh?
[04:44] <Mena_> thomax, ok
[04:44] <thomax> Mena_: but you wont be able to access linux again
[04:44] <patriciacaba> mena: I like the dog; je je
[04:44] <thomax> Mena_: you need to reinstall grub for that
[04:44] <stdin> Mena_: when you install xp, it writes over grub, so you need to reinstall it from the live/Desktop install cd
[04:44] <Mena_> thomax, stdin, ok
[04:45] <thomax> Mena_: ^^
[04:45] <Mena_> thomax, ^_^
[04:45] <patriciacaba> stdin: jucato: mena:thomax: etc...: prostitutes
[04:45] <patriciacaba> je je
[04:45] <thomax> patriciacaba: go uck yourself
[04:45] <thomax> fuck *
[04:45] <Jucato> !language
[04:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:46] <thomax> he started it :p
[04:46] <stdin> patriciacaba: bored? then go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:46] <Jucato> patriciacaba: stop spamming nonsense
[04:46] <patriciacaba> jeje thank you
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[04:46] <thomax> thank you
[04:46] <stdin> heh
[04:47] <BluesKaj> some ppl don't get enuff attention , I guess
[04:47] <stdin> Jucato lives to flex his super cow powers every now and then :P
[04:47] <waylandbill> :)
[04:47] <Jucato> it's the 2nd night in a row...
[04:47] <Jucato> quite annoying
[04:47] <Jucato> (night time here)
[04:48] <BluesKaj> where Jucato ?
[04:48] <Jucato> philippines
[04:48] <raoul_> svp j'ai besoin d'aide
[04:48] <BluesKaj> ok ...
[04:48] <thomax> bright daylight here in belguim
[04:48] <thomax> en englais svp
[04:48] <BluesKaj> !fr | raoul_
[04:48] <ubotu> raoul_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:49] <BluesKaj> morning here in Ontario Canada
[04:49] <jhutchins> Here in Kansas City as well.
[04:50] <Jucato> behave people :P
[04:50] <thomax> nighty night :p
[04:50] <Jucato> heh
[04:50] <Mena_> stdin, is there a location i must install gurb in or replace it  with the one i have
[04:50] <thomax> mbr
[04:50] <Mena_> ot thomax
[04:50] <Erunno> Night !
[04:50] <Mena_> or*
[04:50] <waylandbill> take it easy
[04:50] <thomax> master boot record ;)
[04:51] <Mena_> thomax, ok
[04:51] <thomax> Mena_: grub installation asks you where to install, select master boot record mbr
[04:51] <stdin> Mena_: just follow the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:51] <Mena_> thomax, ok stdin, ok
[04:52] <Mena_> stdin, i am there
[04:53] <Mena_> okay friends thanks
[04:53] <Mena_> bye
[04:53] <thomax> np
[04:53] <thomax> bb
[04:56] <Ace2016> anyone have a guide for getting xgl from cvs and compiling?
[04:57] <stdin> Ace2016: closest thing I can find is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116371
[04:59] <Ace2016> stdin: thanks
[04:59] <stdin> np
[05:03] <CShadowRun> hey guys, i downloaded a ubuntu cd and decided i wanted to try kubuntu, so i installed it (from the command line) so now i have ubuntu, and kubuntu. But my XGL Boots into ubuntu
[05:03] <CShadowRun> how do i change my XGL To boot into kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[05:05] <thomax> install it in kubunty? i dunno
[05:05] <stdin> CShadowRun: change /usr/bin/startxgl.sh to say "exec startkde" instead of "dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session"
[05:06] <CShadowRun> ok thanks
[05:06] <CANARION> HOLAAA A TODOS A NEW KUBUNTU USUARIO...
[05:07] <CANARION> alguien que paliquee...
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[05:10] <BluesKaj> !es
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[05:14] <filthpig> Hi
[05:14] <filthpig> I have some wierd error when I try to run firefox
[05:14] <filthpig> (firefox-bin:11188): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:15] <filthpig> I've tried installing from source, apt, version 1 and 2
[05:15] <filthpig> but it still gives this
[05:15] <tauri> !network
[05:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:15] <tauri> um...
[05:16] <waylandbill> filthpig: is it saying display :0 ?
[05:17] <thomax> filthpig: is your gtk+ correctly installed
[05:17] <thomax> !gtk
[05:17] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[05:17] <waylandbill> you would assume if it compiled from source, that the libraries were there.
[05:18] <tauri> whats that program to connect to windows network?
[05:18] <filthpig> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:18] <filthpig> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[05:18] <filthpig> (firefox-bin:11188): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:18] <filthpig> that is what I get
[05:18] <waylandbill> nothing after display:  ?
[05:18] <stdin> filthpig: how are you running it? from konsole? or from another term, eg a tty?
[05:18] <waylandbill> oh. I see n/m
[05:19] <filthpig> When I try running it from the "k-menu" it just loads and disappears
[05:19] <waylandbill> the server rejected the connection.
[05:19] <jhutchins> filthpig: What release are you running?  Are you running beryl?  Do you have third-party video card drivers?
[05:19] <filthpig> when I try to run "firefox" from konsole, I'm just returned to the command line
[05:19] <jhutchins> filthpig: Haev you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[05:20] <jhutchins> filthpig: Have you looked here?
[05:20] <filthpig> jhutchins: 6.10, beryl yes (but I had that problem before installing beryl) and drivers are the latest nvidia prop
[05:20] <jhutchins> !fixres | filthpig
[05:20] <ubotu> filthpig: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:20] <filthpig> jhutchins: reconfigure, yes
[05:20] <jhutchins> filthpig: beryl + nvidia explains your problem adequately.
[05:21] <filthpig> jhutchins: had the same problem without them :/
[05:21] <tauri> what is the program called that lets linux connect to a windows network?
[05:21] <Mena> what is zudeo is this azureuz
[05:21] <filthpig> besides, shouldn't such a problem be a realtively easy fix?
[05:22] <filthpig> tauri: you can use samba, I guess. Don't know how to use it myself, never needed to
[05:22] <tauri> !samba
[05:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:22] <stdin> Mena: you mean azureus?
[05:22] <tauri> @wine
[05:22] <tauri> !wine
[05:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:22] <Mena> yes
[05:22] <filthpig> Mena: you can get azureus for linux
[05:22] <filthpig> !azureus
[05:22] <Mena> stdin, but i went to the home oage and found zudro
[05:22] <waylandbill> tauri: konqueror can browse windows networks.
[05:22] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:22] <Mena> zudeo*
[05:23] <tauri> rly?
[05:23] <tauri> how?
[05:23] <waylandbill> look at remote:/
[05:23] <tauri> um... huh?
[05:23] <crystufer2000> yo
[05:23] <tauri> linux noob here
[05:24] <waylandbill> open konqueror and tell it to go to "remote:/"
[05:24] <stdin> Mena: what home page did you go to?
[05:24] <tauri> heh thx
[05:24] <tauri> works
[05:24] <waylandbill> of course it does. :-D
[05:25] <tauri> yeah
[05:25] <tauri> lol
[05:25] <tauri> how do i get wine?
[05:25] <waylandbill> sudo aptitude install wine
[05:25] <waylandbill> or apt-get
[05:25] <tauri> eh?
[05:25] <Mena> stdin, here you are  http://www.zudeo.com/az-web/app
[05:25] <waylandbill> or adept
[05:26] <Mena> stdin, i open it from azures
[05:26] <waylandbill> make sure you have !universe enabled
[05:26] <Mena> stdin, from the about
[05:26] <waylandbill> !universe
[05:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:26] <tauri> ok
[05:26] <mom> hi
[05:26] <tauri> reading tutorial
[05:27] <stdin> Mena: ahh, seems to be some video search thing
[05:29] <tauri> eh... linux is hard to get used to lol
[05:30] <[EG] Tauri> ahh... thats better
[05:30] <[EG] Tauri> not naked...
[05:30] <Mena> stdin, no i jsut read a lot of this http://azureuswiki.com/index.php/Azureus_2_and_Zudeo#Introduction
[05:31] <Mena> stdin, its same as azures but difrrent in some things
[05:31] <[EG] Tauri> !wine
[05:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:31] <Mena> stdin, maybe say new look ^_^
[05:31] <jhutchins> It should be noted that the "remote:/" protocol requires the appropriate networking layer to be installed, lisa, zeroconf, or samba.
[05:31] <[EG] Tauri> ok well i have samba
[05:32] <stdin> Mena: ahh
[05:32] <waylandbill> jhutchins: correct.
[05:32] <skywalker> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[05:33] <jhutchins> [EG] Tauri: In that case, using "smb:/" in konq would be more direct.
[05:33] <[EG] Tauri> ok well i got it working
[05:33] <[EG] Tauri> :D
[05:33] <Mena> stdin, do you knwo what is this for (GRE) in firefox
[05:34] <stdin> Mena: gre? nope
[05:35] <Mena> stdin, 
[05:35] <Mena> ok
[05:35] <[EG] Tauri> what are some cool files for linux?
[05:35] <skywalker> can I use samba to view my windows system shared folders?
[05:36] <skywalker> !samba
[05:36] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:37] <BluesKaj> !smb4k
[05:37] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[05:37] <waylandbill> [EG] Tauri: all files owned by my UID are cool. :-P
[05:39] <[EG] Tauri> lol
[05:51] <CShadowRun> hm, im looking on kde-look.org for some nice themes and i found one thats type "Theme/Style for KDE 3.2 +" and looks nice but i dunno how to install it
[05:51] <CShadowRun> and the only option for a download is "Fedora Download"
[05:51] <CShadowRun> but, in the screenshots it shows it running on KDE... :S
[05:51] <CShadowRun> i tried importing it with the appearance thing, but i can't because its the wrong file type
[05:52] <eeos> is there a way to laucnh a process in a shell, and limit the resources the process can use (memory and processor)?
[05:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:53] <Tr4sK> Hi all
[05:53] <Mena> Hi
[05:55] <Mena> ShadowRun, usaualy you extract the file
[05:55] <Mena> ShadowRun, and then you will find instruction on it
[05:55] <CShadowRun> [Mena-> its a .kth file, how do i extract it?
[05:55] <[EG] Tauri> how do i make my desktop icons smaller?
[05:56] <Mena> ShadowRun, if it was its for the thememanager
[05:56] <CShadowRun> (like what tool do i use to extract it, i can go find it and read the tutorial)
[05:56] <CShadowRun> ok hmm
[05:56] <Mena> ShadowRun, and some of them dont work
[05:56] <Mena> ShadowRun, i treid befor
[05:56] <jose__> hello
[05:57] <Mena> ShadowRun, you can add a comment and tell the owner of it
[05:57] <skywalker> !disable
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <CShadowRun> aww man
[05:57] <skywalker> !file sharing
[05:57] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[05:57] <jose__> who can run limewire or frostwire?
[05:57] <CShadowRun> lol i cant even find the theme manager
[05:57] <skarface> frostwire runs but it's kind of quirky
[05:58] <eeos> is there a way to laucnh a process in a shell, and limit the resources the process can use (memory and processor) o kubuntu 6.10?
[05:58] <Mena> ShadowRun, from kontrol center
[05:58] <Mena> ShadowRun, and the thememanager
[05:58] <stdin> [EG] Tauri: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons Advanced tab
[05:58] <skywalker> !system settings
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system settings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <[EG] Tauri> k thx
[05:59] <skywalker> !microsoft is a virus
[05:59] <skarface> !stop
[05:59] <[EG] Tauri> lol
[05:59] <ubotu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[05:59] <Mena> ShadowRun, press alt+f2 and then kcontrol
[05:59] <stdin> !botabuse | skywalker
[05:59] <ubotu> skywalker: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:59] <Mena> ShadowRun, if needed
[05:59] <CShadowRun> [Mena-> thanks :D
[06:00] <Mena> ShadowRun, you are welcome :)
[06:01] <zyth> How do I uninstall the gnome desktop if I've installed kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:02] <skarface> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:03] <zyth> that doesnt remove all of gnome
[06:03] <zyth> only the metapackage itself
[06:03] <skarface> autoremove will do the rest
[06:03] <bxnp> no it wont
[06:03] <Mena> zyth, if the livecd was ubuntu i dont think so
[06:03] <skarface> okay, it won't. somehow it does on my machines.
[06:04] <zyth> so I have to reinstall my entire OS with a kubuntu livecd to get rid of gnome? :S
[06:04] <Mena> zyth, but if kubuntu it will remove all gnome desktop
[06:04] <zyth> I installed from a gnome livecd
[06:04] <zyth> decided to switch
[06:04] <zyth> want gnome gone.
[06:04] <Mena> zyth, yes as i guess if you wont a full kubuntu system
[06:04] <zyth> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:04] <zyth> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 45.1kB will be freed.
[06:04] <skarface> remove the metapackage, autoremove, there may be some other stuff to take out like gdm...
[06:04] <skarface> works for me
[06:05] <waylandbill> !cleankde
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cleankde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <zyth> autoremove has nothing
[06:05] <zyth> argh... how annoying.
[06:05] <skarface> after you remove ubuntu-desktop there's no autoremove?
[06:05] <zyth> skarface: correct
[06:05] <Mena> zyth,for clean install i recommend kubnutu livecd
[06:05] <waylandbill> there is a way to do it stored in the bot
[06:05] <Mena> zyth, as i guess
[06:05] <skarface> well start removing gnome packages and autoremove
[06:05] <waylandbill> I have to remember the word to use. :-)
[06:05] <zyth> Mena: I kinda wanted to avoid having to reinstall.
[06:05] <zyth> waylandbill: lol ok
[06:06] <Mena> zyth, ok i was befor
[06:06] <Mena> heheh
[06:06] <Mena> i also started with ubuntu
[06:06] <stdin> zyth: what about "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop" ? dose that work?
[06:06] <bxnp> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:07] <bxnp> this is for edgy
[06:07] <bxnp> and there is allso something for dapper
[06:07] <waylandbill> PureKde. that's it
[06:07] <waylandbill> :)
[06:08] <zyth> thanks bxnp :)
[06:08] <atidem> hi
[06:08] <zyth> one other question.  How do I make Konversation put my channel list in tabs at the bottom of the window ala xchat?
[06:09] <bxnp> go to preferences
[06:09] <bxnp> i guess
[06:09] <bxnp> i dont use konversation i am on irssi
[06:10] <zyth> got it
[06:10] <zyth> yay
[06:10] <bxnp> cool zyth
[06:11] <zyth> and gnome is uninstalling.  Hooray
[06:11] <zyth> hehe thanks :)
[06:11] <bxnp> np
[06:12] <bxnp> everybody helps eachother ")
[06:17] <muh-die-kuh> hi
[06:18] <muh-die-kuh> i just got a ipod video, plugged it into my ubuntu box, and - nothing happend ;-) not even dmesg said somethin about it... do i need special kernel modules for these new ipods?
[06:20] <[EG] Tauri> !wine
[06:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:21] <posingaspopular> muh-die-kuh: can you use gtkpod?
[06:21] <posingaspopular> or it not seeing the hardware?
[06:21] <malik_> hi every one.............whats the difference between libxine n xine-lib?
[06:22] <malik_> i have libxine 1.1.2 but the xine website says that xine-lib 1.1.4 has already been released
[06:22] <muh-die-kuh> posingaspopular: didnt try it yet, mom... but i guess, it wont see it, if therese even no notice in dmesg
[06:23] <posingaspopular> muh-die-kuh: brb
[06:23] <muh-die-kuh> k#
[06:26] <masta> need kubu ntu samba help, can browse internet but workgroup times out.... How do I fix this???
[06:26] <atx> yup
[06:27] <Mena> this is for tar.biz2 tar -xjvf kbfx-0.4.9.3-20070225.tar.bz2
[06:27] <Mena> right
[06:27] <atx> I have kubuntu 6.06 and... well, I have wine 0.9.31 and I try launching jedi academy, the game lags alot
[06:27] <atx> what can I do ?
[06:27] <Mena> tar.bz2
[06:27] <Mena> Sorry nevermind
[06:27] <Mena> :)
[06:27] <muh-die-kuh> posingaspopular: nothin in gtkpod. this seems to be a ubuntu problem - it works on my thinkpad running gentoo
[06:28] <malik_> can any one tellme whats is the difference between libxinne1 v 1.1.2 and xine-lib 1.1.4?
[06:29] <Dragon^Masta> netwok catasterfy need help
[06:30] <Mena> any one knwo the command to extract compersed files
[06:30] <Mena> s
[06:30] <corigo> Any idea how to install Microsoft Core Fonts. When I try from a terminal it says the package isn't there and Adept won't allow me to select if for download
[06:31] <soulrider> hello
[06:31] <Mena> corigo, you mean you cant find it on adept
[06:31] <[EG] Tauri> !wine
[06:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:31] <corigo> No, it's listed, but it is greyed out and I can't select it
[06:32] <waylandbill> Mena: what sort of compressed file?
[06:32] <soulrider> Hey, amarok wont start for me. When i open it via CLI i gte this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7954/
[06:32] <gioacchino> hello I have a problem with ASCII code
[06:32] <Mena> waylandbill , i need for all to nte them
[06:32] <Mena> note*
[06:33] <Mena> corigo, try thi son terminal
[06:33] <Mena> corigo, i dont knwo if it was help but try apt-get check
[06:33] <waylandbill> Mena: you want to extract a compressed file. What kind of compressed file? tar.gz?
[06:33] <gioacchino> hello I have a problem with ASCII code when ai write alt+X ( for X=number ASCII ) it not write anything
[06:33] <Mena> waylandbill, yes and the other kinds
[06:34] <Mena> waylandbill, i need the command for them
[06:34] <Mena> commands*
[06:34] <arriesp> !virus
[06:34] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:34] <waylandbill> Mena: you can use Ark. The CLI has a different command depending on the type of file it is
[06:34] <Mena> waylandbill, i know
[06:34] <Mena> waylandbill, i know
[06:34] <gioacchino> please help me
[06:34] <gioacchino> hello I have a problem with ASCII code when ai write alt+X ( for X=number ASCII ) it not write anything
[06:34] <gioacchino> !ASCII
[06:34] <Mena> waylandbill, sorry for that dople
[06:34] <ubotu> ascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:35] <waylandbill> Mena: tar.gz is tar zxf myfile.tar.gz
[06:35] <Mena> waylandbill, ok
[06:35] <waylandbill> the man page is quite helpful for that.
[06:36] <SlackRat> soulrider: you got gnome and kde ?
[06:36] <Mena> waylandbill, ok
[06:36] <Mena> waylandbill, thanks
[06:36] <Mena> waylandbill, :)
[06:36] <corigo> nothing
[06:37] <Mena> corigo, okay
[06:37] <Mena> corigo, do this may help from options
[06:37] <Mena> corigo, apt-get
[06:38] <Mena> corigo, will open many options may help you
[06:38] <zblach> anyone here have experience with irkick?
[06:39] <corigo> I see the options, and have been through this list, but don't see how it will help me get the msttc files
[06:39] <gioacchino> !ASCII
[06:39] <ubotu> ascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:39] <soulrider> SlackRat: i got KDE, im asking in the amarok channel right now
[06:40] <SlackRat> it looks like it was installed under gnome, then kde was added and its getty snitty about having to run gnome libs
[06:41] <Mena> corigo, hmmmmm
[06:42] <Mena> corigo, i dont have much infor maybe some one would help
[06:42] <CShadowRun> if anyone knows what the theme is in this video, can you tell me please? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI&mode=related&search= :D
[06:42] <CShadowRun> been looking for it for a while now, and i can only find themes similar (generally there scrollbars are black on black background which makes it horrible) :P
[06:47] <Mena> corigo, if you cant find any help but i recommned to know how to solve this go here and download the fonts and install it from action with right click http://thelinuxbox.org/?page_id=3
[06:48] <Betrayer> hi
[06:48] <Mena> corigo, also if you need fonts go here www.kde-look.org
[06:48] <corigo> Mena, thanks, downloading fonts now  from Debian
[06:48] <Mena> corigo, ok
[06:48] <Betrayer> i am try to use m wireless card wmp54g but i dont no what version i have
[06:48] <Betrayer> how i can see the verision?
[06:49] <corigo> The fonts are a dependency for PrinceXML, which I'm hoping is a good distribution because OOo just isn't cutting it
[06:49] <SlackRat> OO spellchecker seems broken these days
[06:50] <waylandbill> Betrayer: pcmcia?
[06:50] <Betrayer> pci
[06:50] <Betrayer> desktop pc
[06:50] <Mena> ShadowRun, if you need somrthing similar to hsi go to this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=51302
[06:50] <Mena> some*
[06:50] <Mena> this*
[06:51] <pctwo> hi'
[06:52] <waylandbill> Betrayer: it should say on the card or will have a serial number that you can enter at linksys website.
[06:53] <Betrayer> i will look in site
[06:54] <corigo> Ok, so install the dependencies, then I install the app, but where is the app?
[06:54] <Mena> corigo, you mean the fonts
[06:55] <Dragon^Masta> Need help with Network Issue using samba, getting timeout on server workgroup but there up!
[06:55] <Mena> !samba
[06:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:55] <Mena> didnt help :)
[06:55] <Dragon^Masta> they network my linux pc only one cannot conect to workgroup
[06:56] <Dragon^Masta> I know samba
[06:56] <Dragon^Masta> I having a networking issue with timeouts
[06:56] <Mena> okay :)
[06:56] <Dragon^Masta> my iptable not blocking it
[06:56] <Dragon^Masta> WHy suddenly is my workgroup timing out?
[06:57] <Dragon^Masta> went through all the settings nothing seems wrong
[06:57] <Betrayer> when i made register my card they send me a mail for confirm and at mail say <Model #WMP54G?
[06:57] <Betrayer> but i need the version
[06:57] <corigo> No, the fonts are the dependency, after the fonts I install the Prince.deb but now how do I launch it? (I never thought I'd say this, but how I miss MS)
[06:57] <Fogge> Is there a keyboard shortcut for cycling tabs in Konversation?
[06:57] <Dragon^Masta> we all need a virgin :P
[06:57] <house> does any body know of an image grabbing software for linux?
[06:57] <posingaspopular> house: image... grabbing...
[06:57] <posingaspopular> ?
[06:58] <house> to grab stills from a movie
[06:58] <Dragon^Masta> so you need a video editor
[06:58] <house> and organize into a single jpg
[06:59] <Mena> house, you can use vlc to take snap from a movie while wacthimg it
[06:59] <house> I suppose so
[06:59] <shakur> por favor, alguien puede decirme cual es el canal kubuntu en espanhol?
[06:59] <house> can i set it to take multiple shots?
[06:59] <Dragon^Masta> !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:59] <Mena> house, and to edit the sanp (image) use gimp
[07:00] <Betrayer> can the wireless work without ndiswrapper ?
[07:00] <Mena> house, sudo apt-get install gimp
[07:00] <shakur> thanks!!!!!!!
[07:00] <shakur> c ya
[07:00] <Mena> house, dont knwo
[07:00] <Mena> house, but there is
[07:00] <Mena> house, avidemux
[07:01] <Dragon^Masta> STILL need help networking says timeout when accessing another pc or even my own, what would cause that!!!
[07:01] <Mena> house, install it its a video editor as Dragon^Masta, said you nedd a vido editro
[07:01] <Mena> editor
[07:01] <Dragon^Masta> I hate ppl
[07:02] <Mena> Dragon^Masta, some times there is knwo help and some tine yes
[07:02] <Mena> Dragon^Masta, its about timming
[07:02] <Mena> heheh :)
[07:02] <house> thanks
[07:03] <Dragon^Masta> wel I need to fix this without re-installing, takes 2 hours to re-d/l the database from anotehr pc
[07:03] <Mena> You are Welcome :0
[07:03] <jermain> hi everyone
[07:03] <Mena> hi
[07:03] <jermain> :)
[07:03] <Mena> :)
[07:03] <jermain> hey mena, do you happen to know how i can watch divx on linux?
[07:04] <Mena> jermain, use mplayer
[07:04] <Mena> or vlc
[07:04] <jermain> oh thank you ^^
[07:04] <jermain> *gives even
[07:04] <Mena> jermain, heheh :)
[07:05] <corigo> I see, it is a tool only, no GUI... too bad...
[07:05] <house> I need something like this http://web.telia.com/~u11125889/ but for linux
[07:05] <Mena> jermain, and also install kmplayer for simply window and uses mplayer engine and xine
[07:05] <corigo> Ok, next question... anyone know how to install a proper Vietnamese keyboard driver?
[07:06] <jermain> Mena: thanks, I'll get right on it :)
[07:06] <Mena> :)
[07:06] <jermain> i love this irc channel, everyone here is always willing to help :)
[07:06] <Dragon^Masta> fawk this then :^\ NOBODY willing to help me
[07:06] <Fogge> lol
[07:07] <jermain> ^^
[07:07] <Mena> heheheheh
[07:07] <jermain> i need to rephrase
[07:07] <jermain> everyone is always willing to help ME
[07:07] <Mena> mee too some when need help dont get
[07:07] <jermain> which is actually the only thing that counts
[07:07] <jermain> :p
[07:07] <Mena> depends in timming
[07:07] <Mena> on*
[07:08] <Mena> house, i dont knwo try with gimp
[07:08] <Mena> house, heheh
[07:09] <Mena> house, make a new and add the images and edit as you want :)
[07:09] <jermain> Gimp = teh <3
[07:10] <ubuntu> I installed Windows on a partition on my hdd, and like always it rewrites the MBR to suit it\s needs. Is it possible to reinstall Grub to MBR without installing Kubuntu from scratch? And are someone willing to run me through it?
[07:11] <akrus> hm, why KNetworkManager is so buggy? :(
[07:11] <jermain> Gajin, nihongo dekimasu?
[07:11] <`GaiJin`> not japanese... so sorry...
[07:12] <jermain> :p
[07:12] <jermain> same here
[07:12] <akrus> hm
[07:12] <jermain> just learning
[07:12] <jermain> ;)
[07:12] <akrus> jermain: oh, could you tell me how to tell 'how are you?' ? :)
[07:12] <`GaiJin`> from where__
[07:12] <akrus> and 'i'm ok'
[07:13] <jermain> akrus: i havent gotten past the chapter of introducing myself :p
[07:13] <omar> anyone have experience with getting fglrx working correctly?
[07:13] <coreymon77> !tell ubuntu about grub
[07:13] <akrus> jermain: :)
[07:13] <jermain> me,.. man. you,.. akrus
[07:13] <jermain> *points*
[07:13] <akrus> jermain: nihongo dekimasu <-- what's this? :3
[07:13] <jermain> can you speak japanese?
[07:13] <akrus> i don't :)
[07:13] <coreymon77> `GaiJin`: !grub
[07:14] <jermain> i mean thats what it meant
[07:14] <akrus> just some phrases from anime :)
[07:14] <corigo> hai
[07:14] <SlackRat> you can reinstall grub, tho ive never done it after windows with a nix on my box already
[07:14] <jermain> hehe thats how i started ^^
[07:14] <SlackRat> check man grub
[07:14] <jermain> but i fell in love with a japanese girl
[07:14] <akrus> jermain: i wanna start learning it seriously
[07:14] <coreymon77> !grub
[07:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:14] <akrus> jermain: hm, where are you from? :)
[07:14] <jermain> and promised i could speak \jap next time i went to japan to see her
[07:14] <jermain> the netherlands
[07:14] <jermain> :p
[07:14] <jermain> you?
[07:14] <akrus> Russia :)
[07:15] <akrus> it's really far from you hehe :)
[07:15] <jermain> cool
[07:15] <jermain> hehe
[07:15] <jermain> all i know is da and njet
[07:15] <akrus> as well as Japan :)
[07:15] <jermain> :p
[07:15] <akrus> :D
[07:15] <jermain> japan is too far :(
[07:15] <akrus> I have a friend from Netherlangs
[07:15] <akrus> ds*
[07:15] <jermain> oh cool ^^
[07:15] <akrus> not a friend
[07:15] <akrus> but a colleague :D
[07:15] <jermain> ahh icic
[07:15] <smoze_> hello again
[07:15] <jermain> :)
[07:15] <jermain> hi smoze
[07:16] <smoze_> has anyone encountered a problem with background images?
[07:16] <jermain> you mean on your desktop?
[07:16] <smoze_> yeah
[07:16] <smoze_> it wont change...
[07:16] <jermain> nope, but i have a fresh install though
[07:16] <jermain> hmm
[07:16] <jermain> *pretends to be knowledgable*
[07:17] <smoze_> :D
[07:17] <jermain> i will need to think that over
[07:17] <jermain> -,-
[07:17] <akrus> hm, ActiveSync not working in VirtualBox
[07:17] <akrus> :(
[07:17] <akrus> vmware is laggy T_T
[07:18] <jermain> i will answer you properly when you bring me a hawaian shark teeth, an eye of an albino grashopper and a a pinky of a windows admin
[07:18] <akrus> synce not working with my PocketPC T____T
[07:18] <jermain> then you are worthy of my help
[07:18] <jermain> *rubs long grey beard*
[07:19] <yotux> how can enable power sving feature for a notebook
[07:19] <smoze_> jermain: i just happenes to have all those things in my back pocket... where do u want them?
[07:19] <akrus> yotux: right click on battery icon
[07:19] <akrus> or left click, don't remember
[07:19] <akrus> by default it's 'optimal'
[07:19] <akrus> at least it's in 7.04
[07:19] <jermain> on top of the kilimanjaro >,>
[07:19] <jermain> within the next 20 minutes
[07:20] <smoze_> k, i just tell scotty to beam them there
[07:20] <jermain> ><
[07:20] <jermain> thy answer will now come young rashopper
[07:20] <yotux> I'm using fiesty
[07:20] <akrus> yotux: then this way will be for you :)
[07:20] <akrus> by the way
[07:20] <jermain> *disconnects*
[07:21] <akrus> someone knows how to make KNetworkManager recognize second adapter? :(
[07:21] <yotux> does hibernate work yet?
[07:21] <akrus> yotux: no idea, Suspend working ok
[07:21] <Voker57> how can i change with which app to open some type of file if checkbox "remember file type assotiation" is locked?
[07:21] <akrus> :)
[07:21] <jermain> okay im gonna be the blind trying to help the deaf
[07:21] <akrus> yotux: Hibernate never worked for me xD
[07:21] <jermain> smoze: where do you change your background?
[07:22] <jermain> at the configure desktop screen?
[07:22] <smoze_> there and via system settings
[07:22] <jermain> so you have no background at all
[07:22] <jermain> or does your current one not move?
[07:23] <jermain> *move = change
[07:23] <smoze_> it wont change
[07:24] <jermain> and if you change the directory the the original background is in?
[07:24] <smoze_> it turns blue
[07:24] <jermain> i dont have answers by the way, but this way its more specific
[07:24] <smoze_> any clue where does kde place config files?
[07:24] <jermain> hmm not really, ill try to find out
[07:25] <jermain> should be in your home directory
[07:25] <jermain> one of the hidden files
[07:25] <Voker57> smoze_: /home/user/.kde/
[07:25] <Voker57> user is your user
[07:25] <jermain> voker57 i was just about to say that
[07:25] <jermain> >,>
[07:26] <Voker57> tooo slow :)
[07:26] <smoze_> ok
[07:26] <jermain> haha
[07:26] <jermain> fine i wont share my infinite knowledge anymore
[07:26] <corigo> If anybody needs a proper Vietnamese keyboard driver try this one: http://www.unikey.org/linux.php
[07:26] <jermain> ;)
[07:27] <yotux> cpu is there something specail that need to be done to enable cpu freq
[07:28] <tauri> how do i remove a password from an account?
[07:28] <camo> hi
[07:29] <tauri> !password
[07:29] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[07:29] <Voker57> tauri: autologin?
[07:29] <camo> anyone that uses beryl?
[07:29] <tauri> well... i just want to remove the password on my account
[07:29] <tauri> is ther a way?
[07:30] <Voker57> remove? Why do you need this?
[07:30] <tauri> cause i dont want a password?
[07:30] <Voker57> blah
[07:30] <Voker57> do you want to get hacked?
[07:30] <khaije1> tauri: type 'man passwd' to see for sure, i can't remember exactly
[07:30] <tauri> lol
[07:30] <jermain|afk> may i have your ip  please?
[07:30] <tauri> sure
[07:30] <tauri> 127.0.0.1
[07:30] <smoze_> camo: i used it
[07:30] <tauri> have fun
[07:30] <jermain|afk> yes!
[07:30] <tauri> anyway
[07:30] <tauri> how do i remove the password?
[07:31] <jermain|afk> does sudo RM / on 127.0.0. bwahahahaha
[07:31] <Voker57> tauri is 70.65.133.90 :)
[07:31] <tauri> ...
[07:31] <Betrayer> how i can see what kernel used?
[07:31] <Voker57> Betrayer: uname -r
[07:31] <khaije1> camo: i used to use it, the broken virtual desktop support started to get to me
[07:31] <tauri> how... do... i... remove... password?
[07:32] <Voker57> tauri: you'd better setup autologin
[07:32] <Betrayer> tnx
[07:32] <SlackRat> tauri, kill off the script kiddies first
[07:32] <tauri> how?
[07:32] <Voker57> tauri: system settings...
[07:32] <tico_> can I have the help of a kubuntu guro?
[07:32] <Voker57> login manager then
[07:32] <smoze_> since i installed beryl everything has gone wrong with my machine
[07:32] <tauri> user management?
[07:32] <jermain|afk> tauri, you could also just make the pass 111
[07:32] <tauri> sure i can
[07:32] <Voker57> yeah
[07:32] <jermain|afk> or qwetrty
[07:32] <tauri> no
[07:33] <Voker57> and root passwd too
[07:33] <Voker57> and setupsshd
[07:34] <tico_> is anybody good with installing ATI drivers?
[07:35] <camo> excuse me khaije1, was afk
[07:35] <camo> when did you use it last time, and for how long, if i may ask?
[07:35] <khaije1> camo: np, whats up?
[07:36] <khaije1> i used it for several months, maybe 6, stopped about a month ago
[07:36] <Sekaab> good evening
[07:36] <camo> ok
[07:36] <Betrayer> need help fot install rt61 linux drivers for my wireless card can someone help me?
[07:36] <camo> may i qry you and post you the error i got?
[07:37] <khaije1> camo: it'd be much simpler to pastebin it
[07:37] <khaije1> camo: in case it's over my head :-)
[07:37] <camo> its actually just a few lines, about 10 or so
[07:37] <corigo> I am trying to install a proper Vietnamese keyboard driver, but it has a dependency of linux-kernel-headers... is this not a default in Kubuntu?
[07:37] <camo> if thats not too muhc
[07:38] <SlackRat> prolly no corigo, instal your kernel headers
[07:38] <khaije1> camo: pastebin is better, but i'll accept it if you insist
[07:38] <camo> the point is, im pretty new to all this khaije1, so i have no idea what pastebin is ;)
[07:39] <khaije1> camo: oh np,
[07:39] <khaije1> !pastebin
[07:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:39] <xerroz> camo: pastebin is a place on a website where you can paste large amoutns of text
[07:39] <xerroz> or that works :)
[07:40] <khaije1> !moo
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <khaije1> !cow
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <khaije1> drat!
[07:40] <camo> oh ok, im trying to figure out how it works :)
[07:40] <camo> thx so far
[07:41] <atx> hey I'm trying to compile cvscedega : /home/atx/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/winex/miscemu/preloader.c:442: rfrence indfinie vers  __stack_chk_fail 
[07:41] <atx> can anyone help meh pls ?
[07:41] <khaije1> camo: copy and paste yr txt there and it will give you a url, when you get that post the url here so that everyone can see it, simple 2-step process :-)
[07:42] <camo> lol ok, maybe i wanted it to be more complicated than it actually was ;)
[07:42] <camo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7962/
[07:43] <smoze_> hey, i get that one too sometimes
[07:43] <khaije1> camo: oh, that doesn't tell me much actually, can you give me the background?
[07:44] <camo> i just want to start beryl with "beryl-manager" in console
[07:44] <camo> the result is the above posted
[07:44] <camo> i can access the settings n stuff
[07:44] <camo> but no eyecandy
[07:44] <camo> it worked yesterday
[07:44] <camo> a buddy fixed it
[07:44] <camo> since a package wrecked the whole beryl
[07:45] <camo> dunno how, as i said, im pretty new to linux, searching a alternative to windows you know ;)
[07:45] <khaije1> camo: you probably need to set your window manager to beryl, over the native one
[07:45] <manu_> heyho
[07:45] <smoze_> does your desktop look normal?
[07:45] <camo> yea, but if i try that it freezes
[07:45] <camo> right now it does
[07:45] <smoze_> i have a solution for u
[07:46] <manu_> is there a software to make  flash movies like the program of macroemdia/adobe but for free and for linux
[07:46] <camo> i look forward to hear it
[07:46] <camo> actually read it :>
[07:46] <smoze_> how did you install it?
[07:46] <camo> apt
[07:46] <camo> thingy
[07:46] <smoze_> oh
[07:47] <khaije1> camo: using edgy? which video card/driver?
[07:48] <smoze_> well anyway, u need to install videacard drivers
[07:48] <camo> ya edgy eft, nvidia
[07:48] <smoze_> re-install
[07:48] <camo> i did
[07:48] <camo> hmn
[07:48] <camo> again? :)
[07:49] <camo> it worked yesterday
[07:49] <camo> just perfectly
[07:49] <smoze_> well, i installed beryl with a script wich is found at their website
[07:49] <khaije1> camo: try this
[07:50] <khaije1> camo: using gnome or kde?
[07:50] <smoze_> the script installs videocard drivers
[07:52] <khaije1> camo: ' killall kwin ; beryl ' this might mess up yr display, if it does type kwin in the same terminal
[07:52] <Shadowtester> is there any way to put a trash can on the desktop simular to windows where you can just drag and drop files to be deleted?
[07:53] <skywalker> Iam haveing problems with wine it starts the programs but they dont work they way they should anyone els have this problem?
[07:54] <lenscape> how do I get the DHCP client on kubuntu to either leave the dns search list alone or use all of the one supplied by the DHCP server and not just the first entry?
[07:54] <lenscape> at the moment it messes it up every time it refreshes and it's becoming a real pain
[07:55] <tuco> Guys I am having problems with my MP130, been trying to sort it out with drivers...still doesn't work. I was wondering if any of you have a printer that works flawlessly with Kubuntu?
[07:55] <pofex> hola
[07:55] <lenscape> tuco: loads of printers work flawlessly with Kubuntu
[07:56] <tuco> not mine obviously :-)
[07:56] <camo> re
[07:56] <camo> err
[07:56] <smoze_> ?
[07:56] <camo> yeah
[07:56] <pofex> hay algun espaol?
[07:56] <camo> it worked first
[07:56] <camo> then the whole system froze
[07:57] <tuco> What sort of stuff will you recommend Lens then please?
[07:57] <camo> so i get beryl to start and all effects n shit, and suddenly everything just freezes, no ctrl alt F1 nothing
[07:58] <smoze_> did you try ctrl+alt+backspace?
[07:59] <camo> smoze_: yes, nothing
[07:59] <lenscape> tuco: do your research before buying a printer. Have you checked here: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi ?
[08:00] <khaije1> camo: so you know how to launch it whenever you want now, i would go through the configs and strip out as much as possible and see if it has the same problemm it might be one plugin causing problems
[08:00] <camo> now if it try to set wm to beryl everything switches to beryl, but i cant click any fields, like the type field of console or anything, cant see the min/maximize close buttons and so on, and if i go for too long it freezes
[08:00] <camo> khaije1: hmn yes i fear ive to do that :)
[08:01] <khaije1> camo: also make sure you've updated so you got the latest (yr getting from an ubuntu repo right?)
[08:01] <khaije1> camo: when the borders disappear type emerald in teh terminal
[08:02] <camo> the borders are there, but the buttons are invisible, but there are appearing by hover
[08:02] <camo> they
[08:02] <camo> khaije1: im not sure, i just type this apt-get stuff :)
[08:02] <khaije1> camo: o o o thats normal, you can change that in emeral settings from the beryl systrem tray
[08:03] <khaije1> camo: that sounds right
[08:03] <tuco> Thanks mate will check that
[08:03] <tauri> hey... is there a program for kubuntu to use .iso files?
[08:03] <smoze_> camo: check driver version?
[08:03] <camo> err no it cant be normal, cause it freezes after a while
[08:03] <camo> how can i do that?
[08:04] <tauri> is there a program for kubuntu to use .iso files?
[08:04] <tauri> !virtual disk
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <khaije1> camo: do you see the bery system tray icon? little diamond?
[08:05] <tauri> !iso
[08:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[08:05] <camo> khaije1: check
[08:05] <khaije1> camo: when you click on that the menu will give you the option to adjust your window decorator options, you can change it there
[08:05] <camo> change what?
[08:05] <camo> the border thing?
[08:06] <PhinnFort> is there an easy guide to upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[08:06] <camo> this part of the menu appears to be not accessable for me :/
[08:06] <khaije1> camo: the way the window borders look, it lets you pick from a bunch of different ones
[08:06] <camo> its grey
[08:07] <camo> i c, but the point is, the symbols in the borders are normally visible, i already had it working just perfectly
[08:08] <camo> usually? normally? i think you understand :)
[08:08] <camo> <-- german :/
[08:08] <ubuntu>  Hi
[08:08] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[08:08] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:09] <camo> hi ubuntu
[08:09] <amsmith42> !koffice
[08:09] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubuntu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php (for Dapper) and http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php (for Edgy)
[08:09] <smoze_> is it necessary to change to feisty??
[08:09] <khaije1> camo: type emerald ; emerald-theme-manager ?
[08:09] <ubuntu>  I can install Kubuntu on top of Redhat on my multi boot system??
[08:09] <khaije1> camo: i think i'm probably missubderstanding you a little...
[08:10] <camo> khaije1:  ;)
[08:11] <SlackRat> on top of ?!
[08:11] <ubuntu>  I can install Kubuntu on top of Redhat on my multi boot system??
[08:11] <camo> khaije1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7964/
[08:12] <khaije1> ubuntu: using Xen?
[08:12] <ubuntu>  i mean replace Redhat with Kubuntu on multi boot system with LILO
[08:12] <camo> im learning :)
[08:12] <SlackRat> replace redhat and let kubuntu install grub
[08:13] <ubuntu>  how to go about it?? what is backout plan??
[08:13] <khaije1> camo: did that at least open a window to change it? i think changing yr default window manager would be a good first step...
[08:13] <camo> yeah the manager opened
[08:14] <SlackRat> how many distros  you have installed and in what order??
[08:14] <khaije1> camo: did it allow you to set a different decorator theme?
[08:14] <ubuntu>  i installed Redhat first ; then win2k
[08:14] <amsmith42> From the above Edgy link: "KOffice 1.6.1 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu.", but no link to the packages. Any help?
[08:15] <[dIcKd4St4RdLy] > salveeeee
[08:15] <ubuntu>  now i want to replace Redhat with Kubuntu if it is not a big deal
[08:15] <[dIcKd4St4RdLy] > qualkuno mi puo aiutare ad istallare la kubunto
[08:15] <SlackRat> windows and redhat boot fine right? from lilo?
[08:15] <ForgeAus> does redhat use grub or lilo?
[08:15] <ubuntu>  lilo
[08:15] <SlackRat> lilo, i think, but you can use grub
[08:16] <PhinnFort> i thought redhat pioneered grub?
[08:16] <SlackRat> just install the kubuntu over the redhat partitions
[08:16] <camo> khaije1: i can set frame engine, buttons, shadows, title and theme
[08:16] <SlackRat> grub should see windows
[08:16] <ubuntu>  they boot fine now
[08:16] <SlackRat> add it, then you have a windows kubuntu dual boot
[08:16] <camo> as far as i can translate to en :)
[08:16] <ForgeAus> hmm I wonder if/how to point to the root kernel in ntldr... you could even use that that way!
[08:16] <khaije1> camo: did you try picking a different one?
[08:16] <ForgeAus> if its 2k/XP
[08:16] <camo> engine?
[08:16] <SlackRat> should be fine....strange that you installed windows after redhat and windows didnt wipe the redhat
[08:17] <ForgeAus> one bootmanager to rule them all?
[08:17] <khaije1> camo: no, just theme... try a few and see if you get the same problems
[08:17] <ForgeAus> my preference is grub
[08:17] <justin___> heloo
[08:17] <camo> ok if i quit you know what happened ;)
[08:17] <ForgeAus> but grub doesn't boot XP it passes to NTLDR to boot XP
[08:17] <justin___> i need help
[08:17] <ForgeAus> afaik
[08:17] <justin___> i'm first time on linux ever
[08:17] <khaije1> anyone know the hotkey for a kuake term to pop up?
[08:18] <ubuntu>  iam wondering how GRUB will get the LILO info for win2k??
[08:18] <khaije1> camo: :-)
[08:18] <camo> ok khaije1 i have beryl running atm, buttons visible, everything seems to work
[08:18] <justin___> how to open my c: disk, which is ntfs system
[08:18] <camo> plus i can type :)
[08:18] <justin___> :(
[08:18] <tauri> how do i mount .mds files?
[08:18] <PhinnFort> !ntfs
[08:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:19] <khaije1> camo: congratulations!
[08:19] <camo> thanks so far, but i still dont trust it P
[08:19] <PhinnFort> !ntfs | justin___
[08:19] <ubotu> justin___: please see above
[08:19] <justin___> ok
[08:19] <justin___> thnx
[08:19] <khaije1> camo: now you must try to break it!!!
[08:19] <tauri> !beryl
[08:19] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:19] <PhinnFort> np
[08:19] <camo> ;P
[08:19] <camo> btw
[08:19] <SlackRat> for almost the past full year, every debian based system recognized both windows and other linuxes on grub
[08:19] <Shadowtester> ntfs-3g works great I just whent though the install of that last night
[08:19] <ubuntu>  iam wondering how GRUB will get the info from LILO for win2k??
[08:19] <SlackRat> tho sometimes you had to tweak grub to boot the linux correctly
[08:20] <khaije1> Shadowtester: what about performance?
[08:20] <SlackRat> it should see a windows partiton
[08:20] <khaije1> is it apt - able yet?
[08:20] <SlackRat> not lilo
[08:20] <camo> atm its like only my borders are having a different theme, everything else still looks like plain kde, is there a way to make it fit to the beryl themes?
[08:20] <Shadowtester> seems to be fine can read and write to the partition with no problems so far
[08:21] <khaije1> camo: not sure what you mean... is beryl active atm?
[08:21] <camo> yeah
[08:21] <smoze_> how is it possible that i cant change desktop image??
[08:21] <khaije1> camo: could you explain yr question?
[08:21] <PhinnFort> camo: you want to change style?
[08:21] <PhinnFort> try the polyester style, i think
[08:21] <PhinnFort> very nice and shiny
[08:22] <ubuntu>  slackrat: what are the safety measures... i dont want to screw up my win2k install thou
[08:22] <khaije1> camo:  are you talking about the effects and visuals?
[08:22] <Shadowtester> I think he is talking about the background image if so its about like doing it in windows
[08:22] <camo> khaije1: can i qry you, since this could be a lil bit easier? :)
[08:22] <SlackRat> grub will overwrite lilo.....so make sure when you're installing and finishing the install that it sees windows.....then allow it to install grub
[08:22] <SlackRat> which adds windows
[08:22] <khaije1> camo: don't be embarassed, if it's in the open you can easily get a second opinion :-)
[08:23] <ubuntu>  how do i make sure it sees windows?.. is it too late then to do damage control??
[08:23] <SlackRat> safety measures are windows showing up when you have a chance to partition etc
[08:24] <CShadowRun> can anyone tell me how i would go about making my windows black, text green and scrollbars green?
[08:24] <SlackRat> the worst that can happen unless you install over the windows, is that you fixboot on windows from a shell
[08:24] <CShadowRun> (like this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI&mode=related&search= )
[08:25] <SlackRat> but like i said, linux has been real good on almost every distro at recognizing windows
[08:25] <camo> grml re
[08:25] <camo> khaije1: i did it!
[08:25] <CShadowRun> i agree with the detecting windows thing, installed [ubuntu]  for the first time and it just did it all automatically :)
[08:25] <ubuntu>  so you mean to say.. GRUB supposed to see win2k install and add to it, if i dont install it on win2k
[08:25] <Adydas> CShadowRun: use beryl
[08:25] <CShadowRun> [Adydas-> i have beryl
[08:26] <SlackRat> right, youre custom partitioning to install it over the fedora....redhat.....
[08:26] <smoze_> CShadowRun: look nice
[08:26] <SlackRat> it should show vfat or ntfs...for windows
[08:26] <CShadowRun> i allways thought it was more to do with the Colors section of appearance.
[08:26] <SlackRat> its one of the things grub does....finds windows
[08:26] <camo> khaije1: it seems the system freezes as soon as i try to do anything while beryl runs
[08:26] <ubuntu>  that sounds good.. i was very concerned about losing my stuff on win2k
[08:27] <SlackRat> if something went wrong, you can return to the ntdlr with fixboot, but ive never seen it happen with debian, ubuntu, suse, etc
[08:27] <SlackRat> any distro...so long as you dont wipe it? is recoverable
[08:27] <camo> it would be much easier if i could at least have a opportunity to kill the process or restart x
[08:27] <SlackRat> it gets messy if you have say windows, linux and freebsd but people do it all the time
[08:27] <ubuntu>  cool
[08:28] <smoze_> camo: what does this tell you? apt-cache showpkg nvidia-glx
[08:28] <khaije1> camo: do you know how to use virutal consoles?
[08:28] <SlackRat> all the data is there, on mulitboots it s just a matter of getting the boot right
[08:29] <camo> khaije1: a bunch of lines? :)
[08:29] <ubuntu>  well.. that is the reason iam not repartitioning .. i learned it might screw up things
[08:29] <SlackRat> most of us have had to get our windows back at one point, even without linux , using fixboot cause something messed up the wndows boot
[08:29] <camo> khaije1:
[08:29] <camo> Versions:
[08:29] <camo> 1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.1
[08:29] <SlackRat> dont repartition, install over the fedora
[08:29] <SlackRat> root where root was, swap etc
[08:30] <ubuntu>  Exactly
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> :( i need help
[08:30] <SlackRat> grub is generally easier than lilo to fix and configure too
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> i put a dvd in my comp and kubuntu froze
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> now the dvd reader wont open
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> and when i reset
[08:30] <ubuntu>  I really appreciate it... that gives me peace of mind
[08:30] <SlackRat> did the dvd freeze too?
[08:30] <SlackRat> no problem
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> i get a disk boot failure
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> i cant start yhe comp up again
[08:31] <SlackRat> Yume, could you be more specific...you already have kubuntu? or you are installing it?
[08:31] <ErunnoAway> Is there a possibility to uninstall OO.org cleanly without wading through all the dependecies ?
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> i have kubuntu
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> and i wanted to play a dvd
[08:31] <ubuntu>  one last Q.. do you think i hv to make a boot disk b4 i start my install???
[08:31] <Cugel> Erruno apt-get remove openoffice  -- or something?
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> but right after i put it in
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> everything froze
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> so i hit reset
[08:32] <SlackRat> ubuntu, i used to think i hosed systems...but they were there and recoverable so long as i didint format their partitions
[08:32] <YumeNoEien> and keep getting a boot disk failure
[08:32] <Erunno> Cugel: That will only remove the meta-package afaik, not the 2 dozen dependecies :)
[08:32] <YumeNoEien> but i cant take out the dvd
[08:32] <YumeNoEien> because it wont open
[08:32] <SlackRat> ubuntu....boot disks never worked for me, heh
[08:32] <Cugel> Hmm, does 'purge' do that? (I forget)
[08:32] <SlackRat> you have the windows cd right?
[08:32] <Lynoure> Erunno: I usually use debfaster for neat cleaning but it's a bit work intensive the first time
[08:32] <hatta> no, purge just removes configuration files
[08:32] <YumeNoEien> yeah i do
[08:32] <hatta> look into the deborphan package
[08:32] <Erunno> Cugel: No, purge removes config files
[08:33] <hatta> to get rid of orphaned deps
[08:33] <khaije1> camo: i'd reccomend checking the bery settings and tuning them down if you don't have lots of memory or a powerful gfx card
[08:33] <Lynoure> s/debfaster/debfoster
[08:33] <ubuntu> ....I hv windows CD.. but lot of hassle to go thru to reinstall and other things on top of it
[08:33] <YumeNoEien> but the dvd reader wont open
[08:33] <Erunno> Lynoure: Thanks for the hint, I'll give it a try. :D
[08:33] <SlackRat> you dont need to reiinstall , but in emergencies it could get you to the fixboot command line if you wanted  to  salvage windows.....
[08:33] <camo> khaije1: but that doesnt make sence, i mean my hardware is not the weakest, and why should it just freeze simply EVERYTHING, i mean i cant do shit anymore
[08:34] <camo> sense
[08:34] <SlackRat> Yume......you tried reset....try a cold shutdown
[08:34] <camo> but ok, i set it all down and see what happens
[08:34] <YumeNoEien> Slackrat: k
[08:34] <khaije1> camo: the reason why is because there are lots of plugins for beryl that are considered expiremental
[08:35] <camo> omg khaije1 i can change window decorator, but it says online emerald
[08:35] <SlackRat> when everything is off......you should be able to power up and get the cd out
[08:35] <SlackRat> sounds like hardware or bad media problem
[08:35] <SlackRat> er dvd i mean
[08:35] <khaije1> i used to run it on a 6 year old laptop and it ran fine, it's just another thing to check
[08:36] <smoze_> camo: you need to update nvidia driver
[08:36] <YumeNoEien> still disk boot failure, perhaps i can get into bios and let it not boot from disk
[08:36] <SlackRat> yeah, boot from hard disk
[08:36] <SlackRat> it wont open??
[08:37] <amsmith42> After I add a deb to sources.list, shouldn't what I'm looking for show up in Add/Remove?
[08:37] <camo> smoze_: i did this apt upgrade and update today
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> no :(
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> where in bios can i set 1st boot to hard drive?
[08:37] <Cugel> Depends on your bios.
[08:38] <Cugel> It's usually in the basic settings (boot order).
[08:38] <YumeNoEien> gmm
[08:38] <SlackRat> is your machine on now?
[08:38] <YumeNoEien> yes its on
[08:38] <BluesKaj> YumeNoEien:  it's called the Boot Sequence
[08:38] <YumeNoEien> thanks blue
[08:38] <SlackRat> you know that small hole on the dvd drive?
[08:38] <SlackRat> under the tray? you can barely see it usually?
[08:38] <YumeNoEien> found it
[08:39] <SlackRat> with a pen tip or piece of paper click press in
[08:39] <SlackRat> its for opening the tray
[08:39] <SlackRat> when it freezes
[08:39] <SlackRat> seei f that works
[08:39] <Adydas> There is no repo for beryl is there? its all source based?
[08:39] <YumeNoEien> done it shouldnt try to boot from cd now ..
[08:39] <khaije1> camo: have you done an apt-get dist-upgrade lately ?
[08:40] <SlackRat> something like a paperclicp.....it should eject
[08:40] <YumeNoEien> :(
[08:40] <YumeNoEien> still disk boot failure
[08:40] <SlackRat> the disk is out?
[08:40] <camo> khaije1:  nope, but i installed just 2 weeks ago or so
[08:40] <YumeNoEien> no
[08:40] <YumeNoEien> it wont open
[08:40] <YumeNoEien> so i cant get it out
[08:40] <SlackRat> you want to get the tray to open...so you can remove the disk
[08:40] <YumeNoEien> but i set 1st and second boot on hdd
[08:40] <khaije1> camo: in that case t would definitely help!
[08:40] <Cugel> yume: poke with the paperclip -- it can take some time -- and press the button too.
[08:41] <YumeNoEien> thanks
[08:41] <camo> khaije1: k i try that, thx so far again :)
[08:41] <YumeNoEien> ill try that
[08:41] <SlackRat> thats what the hole is for....hold it in
[08:41] <SlackRat> like resetting some routers, press in...
[08:41] <Cugel> If all fails, you can open the computer and just disconnect that DVD player.
[08:41] <YumeNoEien> looking for a paperclip, brb
[08:42] <Cugel> I can think of something but it would be severely off-topic.
[08:42] <BluesKaj> YumeNoEien: turn the pc off and when you turn the power back on press the "open" button before any scrns come up
[08:42] <SlackRat> lol
[08:42] <SlackRat> i think hes been trying that....
[08:43] <khaije1> camo: you'll probably get a new faster kernel and want to reboot after it's all finished to get full advantage
[08:43] <BluesKaj> not sure he did
[08:43] <camo> khaije1: ok im right at it, maybe thatll help :/
[08:43] <camo> khaije1: thanks for your patience so far
[08:43] <YumeNoEien> i did try that blue, been pressing like my life depended on it :/ foud a paperclip btw
[08:43] <YumeNoEien> brb
[08:43] <khaije1> camo: np d00d
[08:44] <camo> btw, does anyone use stuff like photoshop or freehand under kubuntu?
[08:44] <Cugel> camo: the gimp is supposed to do all.
[08:45] <SlackRat> we dual boot with windows till we learn gimp, inkscape , scibus and Blender
[08:45] <YumeNoEien> :( the papercip hole isnt working either,..
[08:45] <BluesKaj> camo, most ppl who do that stuff use gimp or run a mac :)
[08:45] <YumeNoEien> but i dont get something
[08:45] <SlackRat> when you push it in, hold it for seven to ten seconds
[08:45] <YumeNoEien> since i set the bios not to start from cd
[08:45] <camo> i know, but since i dont have gimp at my work and im used to ps and fh i would like to use it here too :)
[08:45] <YumeNoEien> and it still gives the disk boot failure
[08:45] <Cugel> yume: I suggest you unplug the DVD player.
[08:45] <SlackRat> dual boot camo
[08:45] <YumeNoEien> could it be that my hd is screwed?
[08:46] <SlackRat> hard to tell atm Yume
[08:46] <SlackRat> till we get the dvd out
[08:46] <YumeNoEien> true,.. I'l try and disconect it
[08:46] <YumeNoEien> bbl
[08:46] <camo> SlackRat: thats how im handling it atm, but i thought maybe the one or another has experience in that way and can tell me how it works with kubunut
[08:46] <mitype2> hello everyone how is everyone
[08:47] <BluesKaj> YumeNoEien:  don't disconnect the power
[08:47] <SlackRat> well you could muck around with wine, and emulate photoshop, but wine is always in heavy development
[08:47] <SlackRat> and you can install gimpshop in kubuntu which is geared more towards photoshop users
[08:47] <camo> hmn ya
[08:48] <Cugel> mitype: hi.
[08:48] <SlackRat> i cant be bothered with wine if i want gaming for example or need to open peoples photoshop stuff so i got xp in here somewheres
[08:48] <camo> maybe i will take a closer look to that one, if i find the time, ill see :) thank you anyways
[08:48] <SlackRat> np
[08:49] <camo> reboot brb
[08:49] <SlackRat> nothing wrong with keeping windows on the box
[08:49] <SlackRat> you paid for it
[08:49] <mitype2> how ya doing Cugel?
[08:49] <mitype2> thanks for the help yesterday
[08:51] <amsmith42> SlackRat: What do you think of KOffice's photo program?
[08:51] <mitype2> I have 10 Meg internet service and it flew with XP but now with Kubuntu and Ubuntu it is like dial up can someone help me to speed things up?
[08:52] <Lynoure> !ipv6
[08:52] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:52] <SlackRat> similar to paint in windows
[08:52] <SlackRat> or do you mean krita?
[08:52] <camo> re
[08:52] <mitype2> ok I'll try it thanks
[08:52] <Lynoure> mitype2: it might be that disabling ipv6 can help you, see the link above
[08:52] <akmal> hi all
[08:52] <ubuntu>  slakrat: i have the /, boot, swap partitions already.. will kubuntu put GRUB on boot partition??
[08:52] <SlackRat> krita has gotten some pretty good reviews....
[08:53] <SlackRat> it should put it on mbr
[08:53] <ubuntu>  oh ok.. thx
[08:53] <SlackRat> unless youre windows mbr is on boot also?
[08:53] <ubuntu>  .. they all live seperate :)
[08:53] <akmal> can someone  help me?
[08:53] <SlackRat> dont think i ever installed a boot partition.....
[08:53] <akmal> i have jenius modem
[08:53] <SlackRat> so you chainloaded the windows from the /boot??
[08:53] <akmal> fut i can't find driver
[08:54] <amsmith42> SlackRat: Yes, Krita.
[08:54] <amsmith42> SlackRat: Sorry, went afk.
[08:54] <ubuntu>  Slackrat: Yes
[08:54] <SlackRat> i hear its good, havent used it much, but it looks decent
[08:55] <amsmith42> I just opened it up and poked around. It looks like a good alt to GIMP
[08:55] <ubuntu>  SlackRat: Does everything looking good so far from what i said??
[08:55] <SlackRat> hmn.......as you install i think you will have the option to install to the mbr.....and grub should catch the windows....but better check the documents first if you were depending on a /boot partition
[08:55] <camo> khaije1: i cant believe it, but i seems to work now
[08:55] <SlackRat> google windows and ubuntu mbr boot partition
[08:55] <YumeNoEien> I'll have to open it tomorow, but thanks for your help sofar guys.
[08:55] <camo> im still not sure how long...but hey :)
[08:56] <SlackRat> no problem Yume....good luck
[08:56] <SlackRat> kill the dvd when you find it :-P
[08:56] <khaije1> camo:  you'll get to the point where it's no longer surprising when things work :-)
[08:56] <ubuntu>  SlackRat: Sure.. thx.. i will check
[08:57] <khaije1> camo: if you do run into problems keep the other things we discussed in mind, could be usefull
[08:57] <SlackRat> you might have to do a similar chainload that you did before,,,,should be a little easier with grub....or the docs will just say......install grub on boot partition
[08:58] <SlackRat> best way to screw up dual boots and installs is to panic and rush into it
[08:58] <amsmith42> So, Add/Remove is not an apt-get program?
[09:01] <camo> i merely said it
[09:02] <camo> khaije1:  i think i know the problem, if i hover a program in the taskbar, a small snapshot of the program window comes up, and everytime i did this by accident it froze
[09:06] <allseek> hi
[09:06] <allseek> anybody live?
[09:06] <allseek> bl
[09:07] <Adydas> nope
[09:07] <Adydas> all dead
[09:07] <amsmith42> I don't want to go on the cart.
[09:07] <test34> What package do I need to install for perl module LWP::UserAgent ?
[09:08] <BluesKaj> test34:  check in synaptic
[09:10] <test34> ok I will install synaptic.. thanks BluesKaj
[09:12] <test34> found it.. libcrypt-ssleay-perl.. synaptic is much better to search than adept
[09:13] <khaije1> camo: you should be able to disable that feature completely in the beryl-manager
[09:13] <SlackRat> ubuntu, you still there?
[09:14] <BluesKaj> test34:  agreed
[09:14] <camo> khaije1: just found it ;)
[09:14] <SlackRat> yigal, is that you, the guy from the ubuntu forum discussion on advanced ubuntu? heh
[09:14] <voicu> how do i record the output of my soundcard?
[09:15] <voicu> and play it back
[09:15] <voicu> i tried dd if=/dev/audio of=file but no good
[09:16] <khaije1> camo: does that help w/ stability?
[09:16] <camo> khaije1: im using beryl for about 5 minutes now, and no freezing, so i guess yes :)
[09:16] <khaije1> camo: hehehe
[09:19] <camo> khaije1: how can i set the rest of kde to eyecandy? :)
[09:19] <carles> hello
[09:19] <Tm_T> parsek: Mooh.
[09:19] <khaije1> camo: how do you mean?
[09:19] <CShadowRun> uhh, hmm
[09:19] <CShadowRun> i've been useing linux for 1 day now
[09:19] <parsek> do i know you? :) but still hi
[09:20] <ubuntu>  SlackRat: I got your link....... thanks
[09:20] <SlackRat> CShadowRun: the fun is just beginning, mwahahahaha
[09:20] <SlackRat> no problem, it seemed closest to what ur looking to do
[09:20] <CShadowRun> [SlackRat-> hehe :P
[09:20] <SlackRat> keep it all on /boot
[09:21] <CShadowRun> my brother works in internet security, video called him today and showed him
[09:21] <CShadowRun> was absolutely priceless
[09:21] <CShadowRun> (using xgl and beryl)
[09:21] <ubuntu>  SlackRat: I dont have to reformat those Redhat partitions during install ...right??
[09:21] <test34> CShadowRun, re-partition it using qtparted and make it as small as possible if you really want to keep it
[09:21] <CShadowRun> "wtf!...your...wtf?...your desktop is ... wtf?"
[09:21] <CShadowRun> lol
[09:21] <tico_> Hello everybody
[09:22] <CShadowRun> nah, i'll probably get wine and provideing i can run counter strike source, i have no need for winslow anymore :)
[09:22] <SlackRat> reformatting wipes the redhat....kinda necessary, if youre putting ubuntu over it
[09:22] <tico_> can someone help me with an issue I have
[09:22] <SlackRat> just dont change the sizes , no reason to
[09:22] <test34> what program should I use to create a package from a make install script ?
[09:22] <ubuntu>  : including the /boot partition??
[09:22] <justin___> yeehoo, i have unmounted my windows c: disk :)
[09:22] <SlackRat> custom format....auto can oooops , take over the whole harddisk
[09:22] <neutraloss> dpkg-buildpackage ?
[09:23] <justin___> if you would ask me how, i wouln't tell you, because i cant remember
[09:23] <avenger> nabend allerseits
[09:23] <camo> khaije1: as i said kde startmenu taskbar and stuff is still boring grey, and looks like how kde looks at fresh install :)
[09:23] <tico_> I went to user's and groups and remove all accesses to my username, now I can't log on to user and groups to change it back
[09:23] <SlackRat> like i said, i havent used a boot partition....i would imagine writing grub to /boot, will just replace lilo
[09:23] <ubuntu>  .. Yes... I am doing custom format
[09:24] <camo> khaije1: so are there any possibilities to change the taskbar and startmenu and stuff too?
[09:24] <test34> thanks neutraloss
[09:24] <SlackRat> thats why i said , check the docs to find the closest scenario to your own
[09:24] <khaije1> camo: i think i'm not a good person to ask about that stuff, i can only recommend you check in apperance under system settings
[09:25] <SlackRat> Do you have GRUB installed on your boot partition? I mean, is GRUB doing the bootloading for both Windows and your current Ubuntu installation? If so, then after you install your new Linux distribution, GRUBs menu may still have a reference for your old Linux distribution, along with a reference to the new Linux distribution. So, when you boot, youll see options for both Linux systems, even though only one of them actually exists. If this happens,
[09:25] <SlackRat> thats from the link i sent, sounds like what youre doing
[09:25] <camo> khaije1:  ok i think i will go through some forums for that, and see what i can find, however beryl seems to work properly now, so thank you again :)
[09:25] <camo> im off now, my gf has just arrived ;)
[09:25] <camo> cu all guys
[09:25] <parsek> Tm_t: have we met before, have you helped me in some linux related issue or did you just say mooh to someone randomly in the channel, ai s ootki suomalainen :)
[09:25] <khaije1> camo: :-)
[09:26] <union> hi
[09:26] <SlackRat> cept your original was lilo, which should be overwritten by grub so you wont face that problem
[09:26] <SlackRat> of finding a redhat boot option....if you do just edit it out
[09:26] <tico_> can someone help me ? I went to user's and groups and remove all accesses to my username, now I can't log on to user and groups to change it back
[09:26] <SlackRat> cause redhat will be gone
[09:27] <PxM> hi all
[09:27] <SlackRat> you wiped your user account tico?
[09:27] <tico_> no, I unticked every single access
[09:27] <tico_> to see what happens
[09:27] <SlackRat> lol
[09:27] <BluesKaj> parsek: suomalainen eh ..was born in suomi , small town called kaavi , but moved to Canada as a child ...forgotten all my finnish :(
[09:28] <SlackRat> in kde control?
[09:28] <SlackRat> kdesu kcontrol....enter it as root and tick them back
[09:28] <tico_> under system/users and groups
[09:28] <ubuntu>  SlackRat: So I have to map /boot to my original boot partition on my hard disk during install???
[09:29] <tico_> I get this Su returned with an error.
[09:29] <duckdown> Can someone tell me if theres a character map or something similar like there is in GNOME?  So I can look at all the weird text styles like Kanji and Arabic and all that weird stuff
[09:29] <Tm_T> parsek: Just, mooh. (and yes intented to point you to finnish channels too)
[09:29] <parsek> esim
[09:29] <Tm_T> !fi
[09:29] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[09:30] <Tm_T> For beginning. ;)
[09:30] <SlackRat> i wouldnt do anything to it......it should be overwritten when you install grub......tho, if you wipe it, i imagine grub will just install then in the empty /boot parttion
[09:30] <SlackRat> tico, what about sudo kcontrol
[09:31] <tico_> that returns this:
[09:31] <tico_> tico is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[09:31] <tico_> tico@tico-laptop:~$ sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[09:31] <SlackRat> ah......
[09:31] <SlackRat> ok.....go to command line....
[09:31] <tico_> ok
[09:32] <SlackRat> see if kubuntu has 'adduser'
[09:32] <SlackRat> add another user......
[09:32] <SlackRat> who should be able to run the system
[09:32] <tico_> is the command kubuntu?
[09:33] <SlackRat> the command is 'adduser' or useradd  usually
[09:33] <SlackRat> you can even remove tico, since he now has no access
[09:33] <SlackRat> deluser
[09:33] <tico_> I get this adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system
[09:33] <BluesKaj> i'm considering upgrading my XP partition Vista ( I need windows apps for document scanning, handling etc) so supergrub live cd should cover the problem if the Grub is wiped by the windows MBR
[09:34] <SlackRat> sudo adduser?
[09:34] <tico_> every time I do sudo I get this :
[09:34] <tico_> tico is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[09:34] <tico_> tico@tico-laptop:~$ sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[09:35] <SlackRat> what does sudo su give you?
[09:35] <amsmith42> Is there a www.com complete shortcut in Konquerer?
[09:35] <tico_> if I oly do sudo , I get this
[09:35] <tico_> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[09:35] <tico_> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[09:35] <tico_>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[09:36] <SlackRat> thats the list of commands
[09:36] <SlackRat> 'sudo su'
[09:36] <SlackRat> anything?
[09:36] <tico_> sudo su:
[09:36] <tico_> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[09:36] <tico_> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[09:36] <tico_>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[09:37] <tico_> sorry
[09:37] <tico_> sudo su :
[09:37] <tico_> tico is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[09:37] <tico_> tico@tico-laptop:~$ sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[09:37] <SlackRat> you just wiped out your user account, and since there is no root account , this could get hairy
[09:37] <SlackRat> you may have to enable the root account
[09:38] <tico_> how do I enaBLE IT?
[09:38] <SlackRat> try passwd
[09:38] <thomax> sudo passwd
[09:39] <SlackRat> he cant sudo, his account doesnt exist
[09:39] <thomax> haha lol
[09:39] <SlackRat> if it did, he could apt-get fakeroot
[09:39] <thomax> what happened with his acc?
[09:39] <SlackRat> he unticked all his privileges in kcontrol center
[09:39] <thomax> haha
[09:39] <thomax> sry
[09:40] <thomax> hmm not smart
[09:40] <tico_> it didn't work
[09:40] <SlackRat> does passwd do antyhing?
[09:40] <SlackRat> is it a new install?
[09:40] <tico_> it asks me to change pw for tico
[09:40] <tico_> yes new install and new linux user :)
[09:40] <SlackRat> but tico went bye bye
[09:40] <SlackRat> ok.....live and learn
[09:40] <SlackRat> install again...and dont do that again
[09:41] <SlackRat> lol
[09:41] <tico_> tico is there but nit privileges to anything
[09:41] <SlackRat> and apt-get install fakeroot for emergencies like this
[09:42] <tico_> ok thank you, I've reinstal;led 3 times already, becouse I like trying different stupid things :)
[09:42] <SlackRat> you wiped out your right to sudo as well
[09:42] <SlackRat> like i said, live and learn
[09:42] <guiden> flashplugin-nonfree, should I get that?
[09:42] <SlackRat> if you dont break things, you dont learn
[09:43] <tico_> what is this for apt-get install fakeroot?
[09:43] <thomax> SlackRat: true, before I got a hang of it, I was 5 - 10 installations further
[09:43] <tico_> is that to create a root account?
[09:43] <Lynoure> tico_: no.
[09:43] <SlackRat> its a fake root account that makes you root in emergencies
[09:43] <SlackRat> its a debian pkg in mulitverse i think
[09:43] <Lynoure> tico_: do   apt-cache show fakeroot  for more info
[09:43] <Lynoure> SlackRat: not in emergencies, it's not real root ever
[09:43] <SlackRat> most people dont install it, cause they dont know its out there
[09:44] <SlackRat> but can perform root functions
[09:44] <thomax> !fakeroot | tico_
[09:44] <ubotu> tico_: fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.9ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 376 kB
[09:44] <SlackRat> lol, ubotu comes thru
[09:44] <thomax> :)
[09:44] <tico_> I get this
[09:44] <Lynoure> SlackRat: yes, but not with root power.
[09:44] <tico_> Package: fakeroot
[09:44] <tico_> Priority: optional
[09:45] <tico_> Section: utils
[09:45] <tico_> Installed-Size: 376
[09:45] <Lynoure> tico_: don't paste it all!
[09:45] <tico_> Maintainer: Clint Adams <schizo@debian.org>
[09:45] <tico_> Architecture: i386
[09:45] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <thomax> to late
[09:45] <tico_> Version: 1.5.9ubuntu1
[09:45] <tico_> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1)
[09:45] <SlackRat> i havent found anything i couldnt do with fakeroot....course i didnt try it on an account with no privileges left either
[09:45] <tico_> Filename: pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.5.9ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:45] <SlackRat> :-P
[09:45] <tico_> Size: 94712
[09:45] <tico_> MD5sum: 7f9edbbfaa0131664bb76921c510c4ef
[09:45] <tico_> SHA1: 90d6c4a0ec6104ee24f6cc3e29171902e2cf65dd
[09:45] <tico_> SHA256: 9b8340fa23bd7521278b4e483b8519cb95e3131deff2f1d6abe0886468664f23
[09:45] <tico_> Description: Gives a fake root environment
[09:45] <tico_>  This package is intended to enable something like:
[09:46] <tico_>    dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[09:46] <Tibmol> how can i add my tv card to kdetv video list ?
[09:46] <tico_>  i.e. to remove the need to become root for a package build.
[09:46] <Tm_T> tico_: You should NOT paste more than 2 lines to channel, over that to pastebins thank you!
[09:46] <tico_>  This is done by setting LD_PRELOAD to libfakeroot.so,
[09:46] <tico_>  which provides wrappers around getuid, chown, chmod, mknod,
[09:46] <tico_>  stat, and so on, thereby creating a fake root environment.
[09:46] <tico_>  .
[09:46] <tico_>  fakeroot requires SYSV IPC or TCP to operate.
[09:46] <tico_> Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[09:46] <tico_> Origin: Ubuntu
[09:46] <tico_> sorry
[09:46] <Lynoure> SlackRat: there used to be a bug once that made fakeroot all real root, but not anymore
[09:46] <thomax> he copied the whole text
[09:46] <Tm_T> Ofcourse...
[09:46] <guiden> !flash
[09:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:46] <Tibmol> how can i add my tv card to kdetv video list ?
[09:46] <SlackRat> depends on what system your using
[09:47] <SlackRat> i must still have that wonderful bug on some distros
[09:47] <tico_> ok people
[09:47] <guiden> I dont see flash 9 on my list
[09:47] <Tm_T> guiden: And you have backports enabled?
[09:47] <Lynoure> SlackRat: I'm only talking about (debian and) ubuntu here
[09:47] <guiden> repository?
[09:47] <tico_> I'm going to reisstall, be back in an hour
[09:47] <thomax> guiden: flashplugin-nonfree , thats the one
[09:48] <guiden> I know, but I can't find it
[09:48] <SlackRat> depends on which debian version
[09:48] <guiden> I have multiverse
[09:48] <SlackRat> sarge prolly still has the old one
[09:48] <Tibmol> how can i add my tv card to kdetv video list ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:48] <mike__> what is the correct driver for GeForce 7600GS and where??
[09:48] <guiden> But I have amd64
[09:48] <guiden> what should I do?
[09:49] <thomax> guiden: you need backposrts http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[09:49] <Lynoure> SlackRat: sarge does get security updates, too, so I'd be surprised
[09:49] <SlackRat> true....i was running it when it came out....its up to 5 now, and etch is almost here
[09:49] <thomax> # Ubuntu backports project
[09:49] <thomax> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[09:49] <thomax> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:50] <mom> hi
[09:50] <thomax> hi mom
[09:50] <SlackRat> i think they tend to keep it on pen test live cds as well tho...for a good reason
[09:50] <mom> what is this?
[09:50] <thomax> irc
[09:50] <Tibmol> how can i add my tv card to kdetv video list ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <Tm_T> Tibmol: Repeating doesnt help, and definately not '!!!' etc.
[09:51] <skywalker> the link to the wine tools in the fourm isent working is the server up?
[09:51] <Tibmol> thnx for help ! :(
[09:51] <amrush> hello ...
[09:52] <amrush> my samba package is broken and i can't fix nor force it ...
[09:52] <SpamKids> Hello people!
[09:52] <Smackware> amrush, Did you try to forcly remove and reinstall it?
[09:52] <SpamKids> Anybody knows how I put the verbose mode on Kubuntu Boot Splash?
[09:52] <mike__> where is driver for geforce 7600GS ( nvidia ) ??
[09:52] <flake> i copied the source of apache2 to my desktop and did a ./configure then a sudo make install - then I copied the folder to trash and tried to delete it - module.so is in use.  how can I get rid of the install or do I need to roll back?
[09:52] <guiden> thormax, should I remove my old source list file?
[09:52] <amrush> i would ... but i don't know how to reinstall it
[09:53] <guiden> with the new one
[09:53] <SlackRat> hmn, fakeroot on bsd allows me to adduser
[09:53] <Smackware> amrush, apt-get install <package name> ?
[09:53] <thomax> guiden: depends, did you tick all repositories or just a few
[09:53] <flake> I thought the make install would install it but apparently it resides in whatever folder it is in?
[09:54] <BluesKaj> copy and paste into the sourceslist always works as long as you are root
[09:55] <Tm_T> flake: Why you compiled apache?
[09:55] <thomax> guiden: just add the backport lines to the old one
[09:55] <flake> to get latest greatest
[09:55] <Tm_T> Err, ok.
[09:55] <guiden> ok
[09:55] <amrush> error ... http://www.pastebin.ca/376089
[09:55] <SpamKids> Hello human people!
[09:55] <Tm_T> flake: and what version you now compiled?
[09:55] <BluesKaj> I hope we are
[09:55] <flake> but should prob be working with more stable version from synaptic
[09:56] <flake> 2.2.4
[09:56] <Tm_T> I see.
[09:56] <guiden> thomax, but I already have that line..
[09:56] <Tm_T> flake: Anyway, make install installs it where you command it to install, though default is usually /usr/local
[09:56] <thomax> guiden: than you should find it in your repos
[09:56] <BluesKaj> !frozen
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frozen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <BluesKaj> !locked
[09:57] <thomax> !flashplugin-nonfree
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: Hm?
[09:57] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:57] <SpamKids> Any human people here?
[09:57] <flake> modules.o is in use, can't get rid of it from the trash folder, can't copy it back to my home directory
[09:58] <flake> apt-get remove doesn't see apache as installed
[09:58] <Tm_T> SpamKids: No, we are all aliens.
[09:58] <BluesKaj> !Adept-crash
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: You really should use that website. ;)
[09:58] <amrush> error ... http://www.pastebin.ca/376089
[09:59] <SpamKids> Tm_T: O_o  but... On my DVD Kubuntu cover is wrote: "Kubuntu for humans beigns"
[09:59] <BluesKaj> amrush:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:59] <SlackRat> bot abuse!
[09:59] <BluesKaj> Tm_T: the factoids one sucks
[09:59] <Tm_T> flake: IF you compile and install something, apt doesn't know a thing about it.
[09:59] <Tm_T> SpamKids: Hmm, maybe that is us afterall.
[09:59] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: Can't help you there.
[09:59] <BluesKaj> amrush:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:01] <amrush> http://www.pastebin.ca/376098 ...
[10:04] <guiden> It's not working
[10:05] <CShadowRun> is there any place to see a list of the software i can get useing apt-get?
[10:05] <CShadowRun> (and, is there a command to download and install xvidcap?)
[10:05] <Tm_T> CShadowRun: Well, packages.ubuntu.com for example.
[10:06] <Tm_T> CShadowRun: And apt-get/adept/synaptic/aptitude is your friend in installing.
[10:06] <SlackRat> ubuntu repos
[10:06] <SlackRat> or just use syanpactic and show 'all'
[10:06] <SlackRat> if you ve activated all the repos
[10:06] <Tm_T> SlackRat: Exactly.
[10:07] <CShadowRun> hmm, slow down a bit
[10:07] <CShadowRun> i've only been useing linux for like 2 days
[10:07] <angasule> !adept | CShadowRun
[10:07] <ubotu> CShadowRun: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:07] <CShadowRun> thanks
[10:07] <SlackRat> what are you waiting for? day three??? we could all be dead by then
[10:07] <SlackRat> :-P
[10:07] <CShadowRun> haha :P
[10:08] <Erunno> I'm tempted to tell people to install Synaptic :P
[10:08] <parsek> if you have it in your repos, sudo apt-get install xvidcap should work, i guess
[10:08] <SlackRat> i always tell people to install syanptic
[10:08] <SlackRat> it worked before adept was a gleam in some developers eye
[10:12] <yaccin> !DVD
[10:12] <Erunno> SlackRat: I like the layout and the division between basic and advanced configuration. The fact that some controls (ie Samba) are missing I like less
[10:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:12] <yaccin> hm
[10:12] <amsmith42> What do you use instead of Adept and does it just replace Add/Remove?
[10:13] <yaccin> there is no DVD iso from which you can install k/x/ubuntu, or am i wrong?
[10:13] <SlackRat> Erruno, never liked the layout, its just a diff look for the same tools...and advanced stuff usually warns you with needs admin privilieges
[10:13] <amsmith42> There is a DVD iso on the Kubuntu website. You can't install from that?
[10:13] <skarface> yaccin: wrong
[10:14] <SlackRat> and to change wallpaper, you go to display, which sounds like display under peripherals
[10:14] <guiden> how do I configure konqueror to play flash with gstreamer?
[10:14] <SlackRat> smack konquerror really hard and say "just DO IT wench!"
[10:14] <amsmith42> lol
[10:15] <SlackRat> works for me.. :D
[10:15] <yaccin> amsmith42: i know theres a DVD iso
[10:15] <yaccin> but can i install kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu from it, without downloading?
[10:15] <SlackRat> yaccin??
[10:16] <SlackRat> you mean without net downloading the desktops?
[10:16] <yaccin> yes
[10:16] <parsek> if you have kubuntu disk you can install kubuntu form it, if you have ubuntu disk u can install ubuntu from it
[10:16] <SlackRat> find the linux format ubuntu dvd
[10:16] <yaccin> i know you can for example do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" on kubuntu or ubuntu
[10:16] <guiden> I don't like all these damn restrictions!
[10:16] <SlackRat> installs all three automatically
[10:16] <yaccin> ah ok
[10:16] <yaccin> would great if there was such a DVD :P
[10:16] <SilentM> I can't get sound from my headset for the life of me...
[10:17] <SilentM> I've tried the sudo asoundconf stuff
[10:17] <SilentM> There's one way I can get Kaffiene to work, and that's by editing the alsa-base file and setting usb-audio to 0
[10:18] <SilentM> When I start it up that way, it says it cannot load ALSA
[10:18] <SilentM> and to try auto, at which point it works.
[10:18] <SlackRat> there is unforutnately it came with a magazine....but i think its 10 bucks from amazon as well
[10:18] <SlackRat> quick delivery
[10:19] <SilentM> Is there a console command to restart the sound server?
[10:19] <SlackRat> artswrapper
[10:20] <SilentM> Ah, ok.
[10:20] <SilentM> I was looking at artsshell :/
[10:22] <CShadowRun> hmm, trying to install xvidcap and it says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: liblame0"
[10:22] <CShadowRun> how do i get liblame0?
[10:22] <SlackRat> http://www.mail-archive.com/bdlug@yahoogroups.com/msg02843.html
[10:22] <SlackRat> tells how to make repos for ubuntu on disc
[10:23] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get install liblame0 ?
[10:23] <CShadowRun> E: Couldn't find package liblame0
[10:23] <CShadowRun> :(
[10:24] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get install lame ?
[10:24] <CShadowRun> E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[10:24] <SlackRat> weeeeeeeee! welcome to dependency hell
[10:24] <guiden> why doesn't adept remove the other that came with the installation of a program, It only removes the ones I mark, and doesn't not figure out the other ones, why?
[10:24] <guiden> packages*
[10:24] <guiden> -not
[10:25] <CShadowRun> (Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source)
[10:25] <Cugel> apt-cache lists liblame0 on my machine.
[10:25] <SlackRat> yup, dependency hell
[10:25] <SlackRat> you could find the source and compile
[10:25] <SlackRat> but then youd need gcc installed
[10:25] <CShadowRun> :S
[10:26] <gugu^> Help with OpenOffice, when i copy paste something in russian from internet in openoffice word and  can't resolve to read it! there appears some strange latters
[10:26] <guiden> gnash isn't working..
[10:26] <Cugel> gugu: a font issue?
[10:26] <SlackRat> have you hit the google pages for workarounds to get xvidcap??
[10:26] <SlackRat> and its deps?
[10:27] <SlackRat> usually we arent the first to hit the same walls
[10:31] <gugu^> Cugel: i dont know, i think my openoffice didnt read russian, but when i typing in rusian its working
[10:31] <Jeiks> HI
[10:32] <lecci> hi, how i can connect the pc to wireless lan at the star if pc?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> !wireless | lecci
[10:32] <ubotu> lecci: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:34] <Jeiks> I'm using HAL, dbus, usev and KDE 3.5. and I can't see vfat in media:/
[10:34] <Jeiks> anybody can help?
[10:35] <Cugel> I want to skip the motd when connecting with Konversation. I know it's possible -- but does anyone know _how_ to do it?
[10:36] <daft_> hey all
[10:37] <LarryDavid> anyone know why when I install Gnome from Kubuntu, it takes over my login screen (and adds a new one with a flower) ? Is there anyway to stop this, cos for some reason my monitor doesnt like it and is going mental
[10:38] <BluesKaj> Cugel:  look in settingd/configure konversation/layout/channel topic ...uncheck the box
[10:38] <influence> hi. anyone free to assist me?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> we'll try
[10:38] <influence> some problem with kde and compiz
[10:39] <SlackRat> just ask influence, if they are, they will
[10:39] <influence> i have tried installing compiz via adept
[10:39] <influence> so compiz, compiz-core and the plugin
[10:39] <influence> and somehow i rebooted
[10:39] <timster> Okay, how can I view windows media player style streams?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> err, not me , sorry...compiz/beryl wasn't a good experience for me
[10:39] <influence> and when i get back into kde
[10:39] <influence> blank screen
[10:40] <Cugel> Blues: no? 'show channel topic' isn't the same as the MOTD of the server, right?
[10:40] <influence> kdesktop i supposed crashed
[10:40] <timster>  Okay, how can I view windows media player style streams?#
[10:40] <BluesKaj> timster: make sure you have the mplayer plugin for your browser
[10:40] <Cugel> timster: install codecs?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Cugel: i assumed it was
[10:41] <timster> Which codecs >_<
[10:41] <influence> the wmp thingy. u can go for the automatix
[10:41] <Erunno> Cugel, timster: win32codecs
[10:41] <SlackRat> the codex listed on google
[10:41] <timster> Ok
[10:41] <influence> just install the media codecs provided
[10:41] <Cugel> Channel topic is the topic of the current channel. Motd is the long message an IRC server gives yiou and that nobody ever reads. -- #konversation keeps silent!
[10:41] <Erunno> cugel, timster: You can get them from a third party repo, if you don't mind using it.
[10:41] <influence> but beware if u are using 64bit ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:41] <Cugel> errunno: I know, I was about to point him to ubuntuguide.org
[10:42] <BluesKaj> timster: install codecs and : http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[10:42] <SlackRat> or 'easyubuntu'
[10:42] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[10:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:42] <influence> so any compiz expert in return?:P
[10:42] <Erunno> cugel, timster: Or from the following repo: deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[10:43] <influence> or is there a way to 'recover' kde
[10:43] <influence> as in reinstall but not the reformat my entire drive?
[10:43] <SlackRat> or you on a terminal , influence?
[10:43] <influence> yup
[10:43] <influence> i can do the ctrl atl f1
[10:43] <timster> Ok Erunno, Im running dapper
[10:43] <SlackRat> startx?
[10:43] <SlackRat> or 'kdm'
[10:44] <influence> startx tells me that server is already active for display 0
[10:44] <SlackRat> reboot
[10:44] <influence> and try to remove the /tmp/.X0-lock
[10:44] <SlackRat> shut down all the servers and it should boot back into kde
[10:44] <sep1318> crt-alt-f1 doesn't kill x.
[10:44] <influence> oh
[10:44] <Cugel> ctrl-alt-backspace does?
[10:44] <SlackRat> control alt backspace does
[10:44] <sep1318> no, just restarts
[10:45] <Cugel> True, most of the time you want that.
[10:45] <SlackRat> kills and restarts it
[10:45] <LarryDavid> anyone know why when I install Gnome from Kubuntu, it takes over my login screen (and adds a new one with a flower) ? Is there anyway to stop this, cos for some reason my monitor doesnt like it and is going mental - how do I disable gnome desktop manager and have the regular kubuntu/kde one (the blue one) load instead?
[10:45] <Cugel> larry: how many times do you install Gnome?
[10:45] <LarryDavid> just once
[10:45] <SlackRat> stop gdm or gdm stop
[10:46] <SlackRat> i forget which
[10:46] <SlackRat> then kdm, see if kdm takes it back
[10:46] <SlackRat> see man gdm
[10:46] <LarryDavid> ah ok, thanks
[10:47] <timster> So which files do I need to install for windows media files to play. Mplayer has Break
[10:47] <influence> seems like kdesktop is crashed
[10:47] <Erunno> timster: w32codecs, works on dapper and edgy
[10:48] <timster> They arnt in my reppos
[10:48] <SlackRat> timster, go to easyubuntu and download the package...its a gui for installing non free apps
[10:48] <timster> Ah I got the reppo
[10:49] <timster> Will that work on kubuntu dapper
[10:49] <SlackRat> worked on mine
[10:49] <timster> awesome
[10:50] <influence> xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[10:50] <timster> Erunno, if I use your method, will it automaticaly play? Or do I need more packages
[10:50] <SlackRat> avoid the java option, im not sure if the correct sun java or not.....usually best to get java from the java people
[10:50] <influence> how to solve this?
[10:50] <SlackRat> but its got codecs packs, unrar, flash, etc
[10:50] <timster> Ok
[10:50] <BluesKaj> influence:  startkde
[10:50] <timster> Is it a .deb?
[10:51] <SlackRat> i forget, its a download which is pretty simple to start up and install, then it gets things from the repos...go to their page for the latest
[10:51] <SlackRat> it used to be a script
[10:52] <SlackRat> now i think its an installer of sorts
[10:52] <SilentM> Agh, still nothing :/
[10:52] <Erunno> timster: Kaffeine shoud be able to detect the new codecs automatically
[10:52] <timster> Ok
[10:52] <Cugel> A reboot repaired Kaffeine for me, last time (after a failed upgrade). Sometimes a reboot does work, even though it really should not.
[10:53] <timster> Whow, my system is crashing
[10:53] <timster> My desktop is empty
[10:53] <Cugel> Crashing -- no blue screen eh?
[10:53] <timster> No
[10:53] <Cugel> timster: ctrl-alt-backspace?
[10:53] <timster> Thats silly :P
[10:54] <Erunno> I hope that wasn't my fault...
[10:54] <Cugel> Well we try to help. But we're human.
[10:54] <timster> Awesome
[10:54] <timster> Does ctrl-alt-backspace restart x?
[10:55] <timster> Why does clicking a .deb open ark >_<
[10:55] <Erunno> timster: Because it's a package format. I'd prefer it would open adept though.
[10:55] <ubuntu>  SlackRat: how to do i mount Redhat partition in Kubuntu?  just want to backup lilo.conf to somewhere else b4 i do install
[10:56] <SlackRat> er, why, you wont use it....
[10:56] <timster> Hmm, Clicking OK in easy ubuntu seems to freeze it every time
[10:56] <SlackRat> timster, is it a deb pkg yet?
[10:56] <timster> Oh, no its working
[10:56] <Erunno> Ha, not my fault ! *phew*
[10:56] <ubuntu> just in case if i need any info in that later
[10:57] <SlackRat> grub kinda speaks a different language
[10:57] <timster> grub speaks dutch
[10:57] <ubuntu> oh i see
[10:57] <timster> well known fact
[10:57] <SlackRat> says the same thing a different way, lilo might just mess you up if try translating to grub
[10:57] <timster> What does it mean if the following packages cannot be authenticated
[10:57] <timster> Is it a worry?
[10:58] <ubuntu>  kk.. thx just being careful
[10:58] <SlackRat> timster , you can also install debpkgs with sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[10:58] <timster> Ah
[10:58] <timster> cool
[10:58] <timster> I use the package manager
[10:58] <timster> Quick
[10:58] <Erunno> timster: Get win32codecs here: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[10:58] <SlackRat> timster, ubuntu is based on sid from debian
[10:58] <timster> sid?
[10:58] <SlackRat> its when its a non standard unstable pkg
[10:59] <SlackRat> debian unstable
[10:59] <Erunno> timster: Then install it with: sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture w32codecs*.deb
[10:59] <timster> Erruno, easy ubuntu installed win32 packages
[10:59] <timster> WOW
[10:59] <SlackRat> all pkgs on debian unstable warn that
[10:59] <timster> Easy ubuntu filled my screen with ERROR
[10:59] <Erunno> timster: kk :)
[10:59] <SlackRat> cause debian doesnt support it
[11:00] <timster> Letstry these packages
[11:00] <timster> Woot
[11:00] <timster> THanks guys
[11:00] <timster> I owe you thousands
[11:00] <SlackRat> no problem
[11:01] <timster> :)
[11:01] <Erunno> timster: Want my account number ? :-P
[11:01] <SlackRat> Erunno, youres such a whore.....
[11:01] <SlackRat> :-P
[11:02] <timster> No, Im good :P
[11:02] <Erunno> Well, something has to pay the bills :P
[11:03] <timster> Any of you use KBFX?
[11:04] <Cugel> !kbfx
[11:04] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[11:05] <timster> I have It, I was winder if you use it :P
[11:05] <timster> I still can't play mp3's in amarok
[11:05] <timster> It just closes when I open the file
[11:08] <milaks> Hi, can someone please paste me the contents of file in ~/Desktop to make my Trash icon visible ?
[11:09] <crystufer2000> Yo. What's the command to format a partition in ext3?
[11:10] <guiden> why did I get a amd64 ...
[11:10] <SlackRat> guiden, to feel superior?
[11:10] <crystufer2000> !ext3
[11:10] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:10] <Cugel> ...and to run Windows really fast.
[11:11] <gugu^> I have installed Canon LBP-810, and i have a problem he is printing after i must delete job if i want to print anther doc
[11:11] <guiden> hehe not really, I thought it was faster but know I know what 64 is all about,
[11:11] <guiden> now
[11:11] <SlackRat> but mostly to feel superior.... :-P
[11:11] <SlackRat> marketing...?
[11:12] <timster> Guys, I get this error on Berly start up
[11:12] <timster> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:13] <BluesKaj> i bought AMD cuz intel and microsoft are a PITA
[11:13] <timster> What should I do?
[11:13] <milaks> For people who have Trash icon visible on Dekstop (probably all but me), can someone of you please paste bin a contents of ~/Desktop/.Trash file?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> forget it if yer running ati
[11:13] <posingaspopular> timster: try #beryl
[11:13] <guiden> hehe
[11:14] <guiden> well I feel inferior
[11:14] <BluesKaj> posingaspopular:  it takes upwards of 3 hrs to get an answer in #beryl
[11:14] <posingaspopular> BluesKaj: yea but i dont use beryl so i wouldnt know
[11:14] <guiden> nothing works the way I want it, I don't like being a pioneer
[11:14] <SilentM> Gah, this combination of ALSA and aRts is killing me -_-
[11:15] <Cugel> guiden: come on, persevere. It's not Windows, I'll grant that.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> neither do I ...anymore , just eyecandy windowdressing
[11:15] <Cugel> Forget Beryl, get your system running and try and keep it that way. Really.
[11:16] <Sekaab> good night
[11:16] <milaks> Can anyone PLASE send me a contents of ~/Desktop/.Trash file? I lost that icon somewhere.
[11:17] <influence> yes never be adventurous and go for eyecandy
[11:17] <influence> now i m still in the midst of solving my own venture
[11:17] <BluesKaj> it's nice to get DRI working properly so that google earth and the like will run ok : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[11:18] <BluesKaj> milaks: not in the panel . by the clock ?
[11:18] <milaks> BluesKaj: No. But I used to have it on desktop.
[11:19] <Cugel> I'd like to be able to send some applications that I'm running to the system tray -- what's the tool I should install?
[11:20] <moster> wenas
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Cugel: just right click in the panel , click on add app to panel
[11:20] <moster> alguien puede echarme un cable
[11:20] <BluesKaj> add application
[11:21] <Cugel> yes...
[11:21] <guiden> hehe
[11:21] <BluesKaj> !fr | moster
[11:21] <ubotu> moster: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:21] <moster> si
[11:22] <Cugel> !sp | moster
[11:22] <ubotu> moster: sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[11:22] <BluesKaj> !es
[11:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:22] <Cugel> !es | moster
[11:22] <ubotu> moster: please see above
[11:22] <Cugel> blues: what application do I choose?
[11:22] <moster> muchas gracias siento la metedura de pata perdon a todos los users de la sala
[11:22] <influence> i somehow manage to solve my problem
[11:22] <milaks> BluesKaj: Do you have Trash icon on Desktop?
[11:22] <influence> now need to uninstall compiz properly
[11:23] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get remove compiz?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> milaks: no
[11:23] <influence> i had done that but the configuration doesn't seem to be restored
[11:23] <milaks> Does anyone have a Trash icon on his/her Desktop??
[11:24] <skywalker> wow
[11:24] <yaccin> !extract
[11:24] <ubotu> extract: displays meta-data from files of arbitrary type. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.14-3 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 72 kB
[11:24] <influence> now i have a kubuntu that is having a very slow compiz transparent effect
[11:24] <yaccin> !tar
[11:24] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:24] <skywalker> milaks you styll on with that
[11:24] <yaccin> !gz
[11:24] <milaks> skywalker: yes
[11:24] <BluesKaj> !symlinks | milaks
[11:24] <ubotu> milaks: symlinks: scan/change symbolic links. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-4.2 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[11:25] <milaks> But where should that symlink point to??
[11:25] <skywalker> I think I need to uninstall wine because one of my programes is all messed up
[11:25] <skywalker> and I only use one programe in windows
[11:28] <crystufer2000> Can I use mke2fs to create an ext3 filesystem on my hard drive?
[11:31] <nmeyer_> how do i know if i have the right intel driver installed..?
[11:34] <argonel> i've got a strange problem.. somehow my xorg.conf keeps getting modified so that 640x480@60hz is the only allowed video mode, but i can't find the mechanism by which this is happening
[11:35] <argonel> any hints would be greatly appreciated..
[11:36] <Cugel> argonel: so you think some process is modifying xorg.conf?
[11:36] <argonel> Cugel: for sure. its putting a complete modeline in
[11:36] <Cugel> So the job is to find out what process does that. It sounds weird.
[11:37] <Cugel> You could make xorg.conf read only of course.
[11:37] <crystufer2000> Okay, so how can i find the uuid of my drive so that I can specify that in fstab?
[11:39] <argonel> crystufer2000: tune2fs -l <drive>
[11:40] <crystufer2000> argonel: thank you sir.
[11:41] <argonel> strangely it won't even let me select the proper resolution.. it thinks 1152x864 is good.. but its 1440x900 native
[11:46] <johey> How can I tell Firefox not to care about if a web page tell the browser to open a link in new window? I want all links to open in current window, unless I specify another behavior.
[11:47] <Cugel> johey: get the tabmix plus extension.
[11:47] <posingaspopular> johey: you can edit the preferences
[11:47] <posingaspopular> edit>prefrences> iirc
[11:47] <johey> Tabmix plus. Thanks Cugel!
[11:48] <johey> posingaspopular: I don't find anything about it there.
[11:48] <posingaspopular> johey: go with Cugel's suggestion
[11:48] <johey> Okay :)
[11:50] <argonel> how do i get kubuntu to repeat its automatic xorg configuration as was done during initial setup?
[11:51] <gugu^> HELP to install Canon LBP-810
[11:51] <HymnToLife> argonel, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:51] <I-kido> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:51] <I-kido> argonel
[11:52] <argonel> I-kido: -phigh?
[11:52] <I-kido> u can leave that out argonel
[11:53] <johey> Cugel: This extension was just what I was looking for. Thanks alot!
[11:57] <argonel> thanks, the debian-style fix worked :)
[11:57] <I-kido> :P  yw
[11:58] <argonel> lets just hope it stays this way
[11:58] <I-kido> it will
[11:58] <I-kido> argonel what driver do u use?
[11:58] <argonel> I-kido: nv
[11:58] <I-kido> aha
[11:58] <fignew> I'm trying to startup Kooka, when I run it from the terminal I get no error messages, and I cannot ctrl+C
[11:58] <fignew> any Ideas?
[11:59] <I-kido> argonel, if u need help with installing drivers I could try to help u...
[12:00] <argonel> I-kido: uh, what, for the nvidia binaries?
[12:00] <I-kido> yes argonel
[12:01] <I-kido> for   1.0.9746
[12:01] <argonel> so i just restarted it to see if the settings would stick.. and it started in 8-bit colour
[12:02] <eilker> gksu "update-manager -c"    what will be for kubuntu  ? kdesu "update-manager -c" ?
[12:02] <I-kido> argonel, could you pastebin ur xorg.conf ?
[12:02] <eilker> i wanna upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[12:02] <eilker> which command pls ?
[12:05] <posingaspopular> !upgrade
[12:05] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:06] <I-kido> gksu update-manager -c
[12:06] <I-kido> Kubuntu:   kdesu update-manager -c
[12:08] <knubbe> is KDE4 included in kubuntu 7.10?
[12:08] <burgermann> :P
[12:08] <knubbe> or maybe its too early to tell
[12:10] <faLUCE>  Hi. I'm trying to run this simple makefile: http://rafb.net/p/BykcSi60.html but it gives me this error: make: *** No targets.  Stop. . I'm really getting crazy: what's wrong? thnks
[12:11] <argonel> I-kido: looks like guidance-displayconfig is at fault
[12:11] <I-kido> hmm
[12:12] <argonel> i removed it from Xsession.d and while the font DPI is a tad small, the video mode is correct
[12:12] <argonel> spoke too soon, its wrong on restart again
[12:13] <Mattjc> Anyone for some possibly easy answers
[12:13] <I-kido> X didn't start/