[02:43] <darkmatter> troy_s, check this out http://clutter-project.org/
[02:44] <darkmatter> could be a dream come true with the proper love
[02:48] <troy_s> darkmatter: I wonder if it the GL does software emulation when accell not present
[02:49] <darkmatter> hmm
[02:49] <darkmatter> good question
[02:49] <troy_s> I just don't think anything will hold until an abstraction layer is provided.
[02:51] <darkmatter> OpenGL ES & EGL support. This was an original goal for Clutter and this is one of the reasons the GL usage has been keep pretty simple. GL ES Support has already been roughly prototyped in the backends branch and youll notice internal math in Clutter is fixed point based (GL ES type platforms typically lack an FPU) ready for this. This work will also bring stage abstraction meaning we can run over other GL implementat
[02:51] <darkmatter> ions other than GLX and a GL/GL ES abstraction layer.
[02:52] <darkmatter> sorry bout the paste if its a bit long
[02:52] <darkmatter> but looks like they're working on it
[02:56] <troy_s> well that's great news
[02:57] <darkmatter> I'm thinking of the potential for mindshare application... collaboration suites, etc
[02:57] <darkmatter> could be really nice
[02:58] <darkmatter> or adding some 'wow' factor to the gnome games ;)
[03:05] <troy_s> darkmatter: It would be REALLY nice if everyone would work on ONE bloody interface :)
[03:05] <troy_s> GNOME/KDE/this/that/otehr isn't really helping out the consistency factor -- either make the interfaces a HIGHER level abstraction or use the same bloody libs
[03:06] <darkmatter> true
[03:07] <darkmatter> I'm thinking something like clutter would make a great extension... build it into any app that it would be of use for... pass some nice arg to see if the system is accelled..
[04:51] <stochastic> hi, I'm in the process of editing an icon set for gnome and I was wondering if anyone knew where the general text icon is
[04:51] <stochastic> to be more specific, the one I'm looking for is the icon that is given in Nautilus when you're looking at a text file
[04:52] <stochastic> the default icon usually has a small preview of the first few lines of the text file, I'd like to keep that, but change the border of the icon
[04:52] <stochastic> any ideas?
[05:06] <troy_s> stochastic: ?
[05:07] <troy_s> your best bet is to look through either tango/tangerine/gnome sets and find the icon
[05:07] <stochastic> I was looking but couldn't find anything
[05:07] <troy_s> once you have matched the naming syntax, it is pretty simple to do your adjustments.
[05:07] <troy_s> what icon is it?
[05:07] <troy_s> are you talking about the m
[05:07] <troy_s> mime types?
[05:07] <troy_s> as in the default icon for data types?
[05:08] <stochastic> I think it would be a mime type
[05:08] <stochastic> to recreate the icon I'm talking about, open a gedit and save a simple text file such as "Hello World!"
[05:08] <troy_s> methinks that is passed off to the thumbnailing tool
[05:08] <troy_s> yeah and you get 'Hello world' in the icon thumbnail correct?
[05:09] <stochastic> yeah
[05:09] <troy_s> plain text inside of a little icon
[05:09] <troy_s> yeah that's handled by the thumbnailers.
[05:09] <stochastic> where can I find info on themes for those?
[05:10] <stochastic> there has to be a way to change the basic background of that thumbnail right?
[05:10] <troy_s> well they aren't 'themes' per se
[05:10] <stochastic> ok, well forget that I used the word theme
[05:11] <troy_s> methinks that is based on the thumbnailing application
[05:11] <troy_s> as in it draws the thing itself
[05:11] <troy_s> at least most thumbnailers are responsible for that sort of thing
[05:12] <stochastic> hmm but there's a little dotted border around it that matches the icons in the human mime-type icon set
[05:12] <troy_s> ?
[05:13] <stochastic> I'll do some research on thumbnails
[05:13] <troy_s> yeah... i honestly don't know exactly what icon it will pull to set into
[05:13] <troy_s> it LOOKS like
[05:14] <troy_s> it is pulling from /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/mimetypes/text-x-preview.svg
[05:14] <troy_s> you might want to start there.
[05:14] <troy_s> and try dicking with that.
[05:14] <stochastic> thanks
[05:14] <stochastic> I'll see what I can do
[05:19] <troy_s> stochastic: Pretty sure that if THAT isn't the icon
[05:19] <troy_s> it is one of the smaller sized versions of it
[05:19] <troy_s> it certainly looks like it to me.
[05:24] <stochastic> hmm I notice that there's a text-x-preview.icon in that same folder
[05:25] <stochastic> how would that relate?
[06:35] <stochastic> does anyone have any hints on how to go about converting/tracing a png image into an svg?
[07:36] <yharrow> stochastic use inkscape
[07:37] <stochastic> yharrow, I attempted to open a png in inkscape and save it as an svg but it didn't seem to save properly
[07:37] <yharrow> Path >>Trace bitmap Shift+Alt+B
[07:38] <yharrow> open image, select image, trace bitmap
[07:38] <yharrow> choose color from the bottom menu if you want color
[07:39] <yharrow> the higher the number of scans, the more precise (and complicated) the image
[10:32] <lapo> good morning
[01:05] <nysosym> hi there
[04:10] <stochastic> Hey room, earlier I was talking to troy_s about the icon in Nautilus that has a text preview of text files on it
[04:11] <stochastic> he pointed me in the direction of /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/mimetypes/text-x-preview.svg and text-x-preview.icon
[04:12] <stochastic> I've attempted to modify these files but their changes have not taken affect do I need to reload the window manager or are these the wrong files
[04:14] <stochastic> when I run 'locate text-x-preview' it looks like gnome is the only theme on the system with that file but the look of my current icon is much more similar to the text-files that the Human theme has as a mimetype
[04:14] <stochastic> any ideas if there's any different similar icons?
[04:18] <andreasn> stochastic: it might be because you need to run icon-naming-utils on these files as nautilus does not look up the names from the fd.o icon-naming-specification
[04:18] <stochastic> ?
[04:19] <stochastic> that's a little over my head
[04:19] <stochastic> can you explain that?
[04:19] <andreasn> sure
[04:21] <andreasn> oh, crap, there is people coming over.
[04:21] <andreasn> can I get back to you?
[04:21] <stochastic> sure
[04:24] <andreasn> if you're in a hurry, someone in #tango can probably help you
[04:26] <stochastic> wait, I found what I was looking for, it's hiding in filesystems/gnome-fs-regular.png
[05:13] <nysosym> hi kwwii :)
[05:13] <kwwii> hi nysosym
[05:14] <nysosym> how are u? :)
[05:14] <kwwii> nysosym: good, but busy as usual :-)
[05:14] <kwwii> you?
[05:14] <nysosym> hehe, what are u doing?
[05:14] <kwwii> working on a kubuntu usplash atm
[05:14] <nysosym> good as usual ;)
[05:15] <nysosym> do u make the artwork for all ubuntu forks? O.o
[05:16] <kwwii> nysosym: well, kubuntu, ubuntu and edubuntu for now
[05:16] <nysosym> amazing! ;)
[05:17] <kwwii> well, it is more of a one time thing, I guess
[05:17] <kwwii> hopefully there will be others next time
[05:17] <nysosym> yes, but who? ^
[05:17] <nysosym> u make great artworks ;)
[05:19] <kwwii> I try to do my best, but one person doing all this work over a longer period of time is simply crazy
[05:20] <nysosym> yes agree, u said a new lead artist would be highered? They can define new people ;)
[05:21] <nysosym> -highered +employed :D
[05:24] <kwwii> yepp
[05:24] <nysosym> kwwii, when u finished your work in kubuntu, can i see some screenshots please? I wan't install kubuntu, with the only reason to see your artwork ;)
[05:25] <kwwii> hehe, sure
[05:25] <kwwii> for now I am working on the usplash though- so no screens of that
[05:25] <nysosym> thx :)
[05:25] <kwwii> as my vmware refuses to install linux
[05:26] <nysosym> yes i know the problems with vmware, i had them in edgy also... :-/
[05:26] <nysosym> but, when vmware doesn't work, how do u test your work?
[05:28] <kwwii> the hard way :-)
[05:28] <kwwii> my laptop slowly becomes messed up :p
[05:29] <kwwii> actually, I have two other test machines
[05:29] <nysosym> hehe, which sort of laptop do u have? :)
[05:32] <kwwii> I have a 17" powerbook and a new ibm x60s
[05:34] <nysosym> respect, the best of the best ;)
[05:35] <nysosym> hi klepas
[05:35] <kwwii> well, I have been working from home for a few years now, so it is really the only money I put into my office ;-)
[05:36] <nysosym> kwwii, good way, i only have a macbook and a selfmade desktop machine ^
[05:36] <kwwii> hehe, I have a machine I put together too...it is now one leg of a table
[05:37] <kwwii> and the last time I will do that :-)
[05:37] <nysosym> :)
[05:38] <nysosym> my next way will be, removing my actual desktop machine and buy a mac pro, but first with the release of leopard
[05:39] <kwwii> I always wait a few years after apple brings out new hardware to buy it
[05:40] <nysosym> because my actual desktop is a little bit to slow, for editing hd movies and raw files...
[05:41] <nysosym> kwwii, sure, but i can't wait a few years, i need in the next time a new "power" machine
[05:41] <nysosym> :D
[05:41] <kwwii> nysosym: yeah, I also have a desktop mac as well - it is great at editing video
[05:41] <klepas> hey nysosym
[05:43] <nysosym> kwwii, yes and i love final cut pro. I love ubuntu, but linux doesn't have so professional aplicatons
[05:43] <kwwii> nysosym: yeah, the oss linux video apps aren't quite there yet
[06:00] <nysosym> ok i will go to work now
[06:00] <nysosym> see u soon kwwii :)
[06:01] <nysosym> have a good work ;)
[06:03] <nysosym> cya
[06:11] <yharrow> hey can anyone here give me an opinion about some logos Id like to use for my team?
[06:12] <yharrow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Logos
[06:18] <kwwii> logo1 looks the best to me
[06:18] <kwwii> after that 2a
[06:20] <yharrow> so if I wanted a logo without words 2a would be the best?
[06:21] <yharrow> see the thing is that II was told that a logo should not have words
[06:21] <yharrow> << kwwii
[06:25] <yharrow> have you ever heard of such a rule?
[06:33] <kwwii> yharrow: well, that is a pretty good rule, but this is a very specific logo
[06:33] <kwwii> 2a seems much more creative
[06:34] <yharrow> but is creativity the main factor hear?
[06:34] <yharrow> here
[06:34] <yharrow> ok
[06:37] <kwwii> well, branding-wise it is also simply better not to change the ubuntu logo ;-)
[06:44] <yharrow> what do you mean when you say not to change the logo?
[06:44] <yharrow> you mean that the team logo should have the ubuntu logo in it?
[07:49] <Hohlraum> omfg that face browser in FC7 is cool.  anyone know if they modified gdm to do any animation effects?