| LaserJock | h4writer: well, I honestly wouldn't count on it all being done for Feisty | 12:17 |
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| LaserJock | depending on how things go | 12:17 |
| h4writer | And the first two? | 12:18 |
| tonyyarusso | the help center stuff? | 12:18 |
| h4writer | the other I don't care it is done after fiesty | 12:18 |
| h4writer | tonyyarusso: yes | 12:18 |
| tonyyarusso | ah | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | we've carefully gone over the yelp frontpage and have a yelp developer that is helping us | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | it'll probably take some discussion | 12:20 |
| h4writer | do you mean mkde? Or somebody else? | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | no, somebody else | 12:21 |
| dsas | h4writer: Don Scorgie I think. | 12:21 |
| h4writer | okey | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | mdke and Don do the yelp front page mostly | 12:21 |
| h4writer | uhu | 12:22 |
| h4writer | yesterday mdke was online at about this hour. That's why I'm waiting a bit to go to sleep. Hoping to catch him. | 12:24 |
| tonyyarusso | /whois mdke | 12:25 |
| tonyyarusso | nvm me - was trying to check | 12:25 |
| h4writer | yes, I tried it a time ago to | 12:26 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3876 edubuntu/Makefile: fixed Edubuntu makefile | 03:11 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3877 edubuntu/Makefile: fixed type on makefile | 03:18 |
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| nixternal | hiya jjesse | 03:40 |
| jjesse | hiya | 03:40 |
| jjesse | i'm so far behind | 03:40 |
| jjesse | was !internet in training class | 03:40 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: the package so build this time, forgot the silly common/ | 03:40 |
| nixternal | eww, no intarweb stinks | 03:40 |
| jjesse | in training class all day | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: what? | 03:41 |
| nixternal | silly typos by me in rules | 03:42 |
| nixternal | like this one | 03:43 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3878 edubuntu/debian/rules: silly typo | 03:43 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: http://nixternal.com/docs/edubuntu/feisty-package/ | 03:55 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: i owe you some work, i have been busy all day. I'll get it to you soon | 03:57 |
| Admiral_Chicago | btw, i fixed my "orphaned module" error, so I'll get the User Management stuff to you as well | 03:58 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: check mail | 04:06 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: we need to have eubuntu-docs depends on ubuntu-docs right? | 04:12 |
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| LaserJock_ | nixternal: did you get my message | 04:20 |
| LaserJock_ | nixternal: alive? | 04:53 |
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| nixternal | I am alive now | 05:23 |
| nixternal | watched the Bob Woodward special and made sure my mayor won re-election | 05:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: he won? | 05:23 |
| nixternal | of course | 05:23 |
| nixternal | landslide like always | 05:24 |
| nixternal | 70%+ | 05:24 |
| Admiral_Chicago | haha, well not with my vote | 05:24 |
| Admiral_Chicago | the other 30% was dead people in DuPage country | 05:24 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: are we going to make edubuntu-docs depend on ubuntu-docs then? if so I can fix that really quick | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: I assume so | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: I think the desription might also need to be updated to reflect that we aren't shipping HTML | 05:25 |
| nixternal | roger | 05:26 |
| nixternal | anything else b4 I rebuild? | 05:26 |
| nixternal | should I put this on revu or keep doing it the way I have and put it on my server | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | on the server is just fine | 05:27 |
| nixternal | roger | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | I don't like using REVU for non-NEW stuf | 05:27 |
| nixternal | let me rebuild really quick | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | *stuff | 05:27 |
| nixternal | hehe, k | 05:27 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3879 edubuntu/debian/control: fixing control to depend on ubuntu-docs and remove the html info from the description | 05:28 |
| nixternal | test building it now | 05:30 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: http://nixternal.com/docs/edubuntu/feisty-package/ | 05:35 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: I'me getting lots of errors | 05:42 |
| nixternal | ey? | 05:42 |
| nixternal | what kind of errors? | 05:43 |
| LaserJock | handbook/C/contribute.xml:9: warning: failed to load external entity "../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent" | 05:43 |
| LaserJock | %gnome-menus-C; | 05:43 |
| nixternal | shoot | 05:43 |
| nixternal | one sec | 05:43 |
| LaserJock | has putting them in edubuntu/ messed up the Ubuntu ents ? | 05:43 |
| nixternal | no | 05:45 |
| nixternal | err | 05:45 |
| Admiral_Chicago | nixternal: i haven't got feedback to you yet. is the doc work good so far? | 05:46 |
| nixternal | no it hasn't LaserJock, I just didn't have ubuntu/libs in the package | 05:46 |
| Admiral_Chicago | s/yet/since the first time | 05:46 |
| LaserJock | oh | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | well, you shouldn't have them in there | 05:47 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: I somehow blew away the libs/ dir earlier for some reason | 05:55 |
| nixternal | well ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent needs to be in there as a minimum | 05:55 |
| nixternal | and that is what I did this time around | 05:55 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: check my directory now | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: ok, hang on though | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | those are installed by ubuntu-docs | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | we can't install files that are going to be install by ubuntu-docs | 05:57 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: that ent is just used to build the package | 05:58 |
| nixternal | it isn't installed locally to the machine | 05:58 |
| nixternal | oh wait, it is | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | it shouldn' t if you made the install file changes | 05:58 |
| nixternal | I did make the changes | 05:58 |
| nixternal | they go to edubuntu/libs/ now | 05:59 |
| nixternal | but for gnome-menu-C that is in ubuntu/libs and not trunk/libs | 05:59 |
| nixternal | but you know what, I don't have it copying over the ubuntu/libs or the libs/ though | 05:59 |
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| nixternal | the us.archives are garbage | 06:00 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: this is goofy | 06:01 |
| nixternal | KDE FTW! :) | 06:01 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: the ubuntu-docs package slings the ent files everywhere as well | 06:02 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: it will work!!!! | 06:03 |
| nixternal | actually, the ubuntu-docs package is retarded | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: yes, I'm just saying we can't be slinging the same files | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | what I had should work | 06:04 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: in the package I just created, the only /libs slung were the edubuntu ones and they went into gnome/help/edubuntu/libs | 06:04 |
| nixternal | why on earth am I using the Makefile then in Edubuntu docs if I am not building the HTML? | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | why are you? | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | I don't think you are | 06:05 |
| nixternal | all that needs to be done is cp edubuntu/$$doc/C/*.xml to the proper | 06:05 |
| nixternal | location | 06:05 |
| nixternal | the Makefile builds HTML | 06:05 |
| nixternal | so this stupid package I did, builds HTML into the build/ and does nothing with it | 06:05 |
| nixternal | this is e.tarded | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 06:06 |
| nixternal | I am glad you are laughing :) | 06:06 |
| nixternal | man, take a look at the ubuntu-docs.install in the ubuntu-docs package | 06:07 |
| nixternal | there is no way that is correct | 06:07 |
| nixternal | *ent is put everywhere but /etc I think | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | I know | 06:08 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7894/ | 06:08 |
| nixternal | that is horsepoop | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | I said that's leftovers form when we were building HTML | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | that's why I gave you 1 line | 06:09 |
| nixternal | heh, and that is great | 06:09 |
| nixternal | but guess what, once you install the package, the docs aren't going to work | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | why? | 06:09 |
| nixternal | because the headers in each .xml file points to ../../../libs/blah and ../../../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | I believe they are there though | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | in ubuntu-docs | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | hence all the flinging | 06:10 |
| nixternal | dude, I don't want to hear it :) | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | we might be off by one becuase of the edubuntu/ thing | 06:10 |
| nixternal | after I stepped back and did the ../ and then ../ and then ../ I realized it will :) | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | but if you count the ../'s I think it might come out ok | 06:10 |
| nixternal | we won't be off because the the third ../ takes us out of edubuntu | 06:11 |
| nixternal | that is where I was getting confused | 06:11 |
| nixternal | the only problem though is still with the ../../../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent | 06:11 |
| nixternal | there is no ../../../ubuntu | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | you sure? | 06:11 |
| nixternal | it is ../../../ubuntu-docs | 06:11 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: is it plausable to change the gnome-menus in the each xml just for the package to ubuntu-docs instead? | 06:15 |
| nixternal | but that is going to cause build issue | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | there's nothing to build! | 06:15 |
| nixternal | the package will have the entity error though | 06:16 |
| nixternal | building the package that is | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | maybe that's ok | 06:16 |
| nixternal | should we give that a try? | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | seems like it's going to have issues regardless | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | because we are relying on ubuntu-docs | 06:17 |
| nixternal | that is rather hackish, and I would definitely put a README in debian/ explaining that | 06:17 |
| nixternal | we have already created the depends on ubuntu-docs | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | what in the build is complaining? scrollkeeper? | 06:17 |
| nixternal | I didn't see any scrollkeeper complaints. remember you just seen the entity errors during pbuilder | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | but nothing should be built | 06:18 |
| nixternal | you are right, I need to kill that Makefile | 06:18 |
| nixternal | that Makefile is giving us our errors | 06:18 |
| nixternal | man, I am used to building Kubuntu docs man | 06:18 |
| nixternal | and that is fixing as well next release | 06:18 |
| nixternal | I am changing all Kubuntu docs from .xml to .docbook and creating the cache.tar.gz and doing it like KDE | 06:19 |
| mpt | Has the simplified Help menu access been implemented yet in Feisty? | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | how simplified? | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | I can't remember what it's supposed to be | 06:21 |
| mpt | As in, not a submenu any more | 06:23 |
| mpt | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpAndSupportAccess | 06:24 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3880 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: clarification | 06:25 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3881 edubuntu/Makefile: no building html for edubuntu-docs package | 06:27 |
| poningru | https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html | 06:49 |
| poningru | To activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal prompt: | 06:50 |
| poningru | -- sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh | 06:50 |
| poningru | ++ sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh | 06:50 |
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| LaserJock | mpt: yes, it has been implemented | 07:13 |
| mpt | LaserJock, awesome | 07:17 |
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| LaserJock | hi mdke | 09:06 |
| mdke | hiya | 09:06 |
| mdke | how is everything going? | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | oh, decently well | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | and you? | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | mdke: you see the email from the forums guy wanting to redo the front page look? | 09:11 |
| mdke | yes, he mailed me privately first and I told him to mail the list | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | he was in here again today waiting for you | 09:13 |
| mdke | right | 09:13 |
| mdke | seems enthusiastic, any thoughts on his email? | 09:15 |
| LaserJock | well, I sort of think he needs to look at what we've got in Feisty already | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | I kinda like the little search bar in the sidbar | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | but it's kinda redundant with the search bar at the top | 09:23 |
| mdke | well, he removes the one at the top: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=26035&d=1172327793 | 09:24 |
| mdke | but yeah, he needs to work with the feisty code | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | it's more control-centerish | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | but like I told him today, we are quite far in the Feisty schedule to be starting this now | 09:27 |
| mdke | yeah | 09:29 |
| mpt | Control Center is not a good example to be starting from :-( | 09:29 |
| mdke | mpt: will you have a look at his mockups and give him some feedback? I wouldn't like him to get discouraged, even if he is working at the wrong time in the release cylce | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | I think we could use his enthusiasm for sure | 09:30 |
| mpt | mdke, sure | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | he's gotten in there and tweaked stuff | 09:30 |
| mdke | LaserJock: quite - the layout is not great atm | 09:30 |
| mdke | mpt: thanks | 09:31 |
| mdke | not long before string freeze now, we need to go over the docs and try and make sure there are no hideous gaps | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | well, I just loaded up yelp | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | and I can't access the man and info pages | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | when I click on them in the Advanced Topics it's a blank page | 09:34 |
| mpt | ok, docs-hacking time | 09:37 |
| mdke | LaserJock: confirmed. | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | k, it's always nice to know it's not just me | 09:43 |
| mdke | I think I know the reason | 09:45 |
| mdke | ok, off to work | 09:47 |
| mpt | mdke, why would he have said "I'm now using feisty, but the .xslt file isn't change" | 09:51 |
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| mpt | ah, it was because I'd not only svn rm-ed something, I'd also rm-ed it | 11:16 |
| mpt | so svn silently sulked | 11:16 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #88615 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Default Firefox homepage in Xubuntu 6.10 says 'Xubuntu 6.06' (dup-of: 67966)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88615 | 12:55 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3883 kubuntu/ (hardware/C/hardware.xml libs/kde-menus-C.ent): added keycombo for ctrl-alt-backspace and added hardware content - ati and nvidia driver installation info still needed | 08:15 |
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| h4writer | hi everybody, I'm getting some problems when I try to build yelp. When I run fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage, it stops with the error: | 11:14 |
| h4writer | dpkg-source -b yelp-2.16.2 | 11:14 |
| h4writer | dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address | 11:14 |
| tonyyarusso | h4writer: You need an @ubuntu.com address in the Maintainer field of debian/control | 11:14 |
| h4writer | but I've got no @ubuntu.com address | 11:15 |
| tonyyarusso | You'll need a team one or something then - I'm not quite sure how those work | 11:16 |
| h4writer | I don't know it either:p | 11:24 |
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| tonyyarusso | ^^ he might | 11:25 |
| h4writer | I'm now trying with autogen.sh | 11:26 |
| h4writer | that will probably work;-) | 11:26 |
| h4writer | tonyyarusso: I went to the #ubuntuforums channel a time ago and they said something of | 11:29 |
| h4writer | (11:20:42 PM) tsmithe: h4writer, you need "Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com" as Maintainer | 11:29 |
| h4writer | (11:20:50 PM) tsmithe: and yourself as XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 11:29 |
| h4writer | and I didn't know what it means so I stopped searching. If I need to know I will know in the future:p | 11:29 |
| tonyyarusso | h4writer: That's along the write lines at least. However, yelp is in main, so ubuntu-motu would seem a bit out of place. | 11:30 |
| h4writer | autogen.sh definitly worked, but I don't got the newest yelp. So I think you need to put in a certain way the .diff file in the source. Am I correct? | 11:32 |
| tonyyarusso | I'm not sure about applying changes yet - I'm still working on making the initial package myself. | 11:33 |
| h4writer | I think I've applied the .diff correctly | 11:37 |
| h4writer | it's now building again | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | h4writer: you could just make up an @ubuntu.com address if you're just testing | 11:38 |
| h4writer | and where do I need to specify? | 11:40 |
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| LaserJock | h4writer: the Maintainer: field | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | in debian/control | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | mdke: around? | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | mdke: the server guide and packaging guide are built as html. but there's currently no provision in the packages to make it easy to read them | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | mdke: i.e. you have to open up /usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/C/index.html in a browser | 11:55 |
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| h4writer | mpt_, I can make your request. I know python and gtk, so here it is c and gtk. So I can read a half;-) | 12:06 |
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