[12:17] h4writer: well, I honestly wouldn't count on it all being done for Feisty [12:17] depending on how things go [12:18] And the first two? [12:18] the help center stuff? [12:18] the other I don't care it is done after fiesty [12:18] tonyyarusso: yes [12:19] ah [12:20] we've carefully gone over the yelp frontpage and have a yelp developer that is helping us [12:20] it'll probably take some discussion [12:21] do you mean mkde? Or somebody else? [12:21] no, somebody else [12:21] h4writer: Don Scorgie I think. [12:21] okey [12:21] mdke and Don do the yelp front page mostly [12:22] uhu [12:24] yesterday mdke was online at about this hour. That's why I'm waiting a bit to go to sleep. Hoping to catch him. [12:25] /whois mdke [12:25] nvm me - was trying to check [12:26] yes, I tried it a time ago to === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-130-24.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === h4writer [n=h4writer@d51A48402.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === comfurtn [n=kyle@mrtcdsl-110.mis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === comfurtn [n=kyle@mrtcdsl-110.mis.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:11] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3876 edubuntu/Makefile: fixed Edubuntu makefile === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:18] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3877 edubuntu/Makefile: fixed type on makefile === mpt__ [n=mpt@121-72-136-12.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-254-14-225.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:40] hiya jjesse [03:40] hiya [03:40] i'm so far behind [03:40] was !internet in training class [03:40] LaserJock: the package so build this time, forgot the silly common/ [03:40] eww, no intarweb stinks [03:40] in training class all day [03:41] nixternal: what? [03:42] silly typos by me in rules [03:43] like this one [03:43] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3878 edubuntu/debian/rules: silly typo === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-254-14-225.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:55] LaserJock: http://nixternal.com/docs/edubuntu/feisty-package/ [03:57] nixternal: i owe you some work, i have been busy all day. I'll get it to you soon [03:58] btw, i fixed my "orphaned module" error, so I'll get the User Management stuff to you as well === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-94-250.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:06] nixternal: check mail === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-254-14-225.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:12] nixternal: we need to have eubuntu-docs depends on ubuntu-docs right? === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-254-14-225.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-136-12.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@75.14.214.216] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:20] nixternal: did you get my message [04:53] nixternal: alive? === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@adsl-75-14-214-216.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:23] I am alive now [05:23] watched the Bob Woodward special and made sure my mayor won re-election [05:23] nixternal: he won? [05:23] of course [05:24] landslide like always [05:24] 70%+ [05:24] haha, well not with my vote [05:24] the other 30% was dead people in DuPage country [05:24] LaserJock: are we going to make edubuntu-docs depend on ubuntu-docs then? if so I can fix that really quick [05:25] nixternal: I assume so [05:25] nixternal: I think the desription might also need to be updated to reflect that we aren't shipping HTML [05:26] roger [05:26] anything else b4 I rebuild? [05:27] should I put this on revu or keep doing it the way I have and put it on my server [05:27] on the server is just fine [05:27] roger [05:27] I don't like using REVU for non-NEW stuf [05:27] let me rebuild really quick [05:27] *stuff [05:27] hehe, k === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:28] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3879 edubuntu/debian/control: fixing control to depend on ubuntu-docs and remove the html info from the description [05:30] test building it now [05:35] LaserJock: http://nixternal.com/docs/edubuntu/feisty-package/ === ormiret [n=ormiret@bodaegl.ormiret.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:42] nixternal: I'me getting lots of errors [05:42] ey? [05:43] what kind of errors? [05:43] handbook/C/contribute.xml:9: warning: failed to load external entity "../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent" [05:43] %gnome-menus-C; [05:43] shoot [05:43] one sec [05:43] has putting them in edubuntu/ messed up the Ubuntu ents ? [05:45] no [05:45] err [05:46] nixternal: i haven't got feedback to you yet. is the doc work good so far? [05:46] no it hasn't LaserJock, I just didn't have ubuntu/libs in the package [05:46] s/yet/since the first time [05:47] oh [05:47] well, you shouldn't have them in there === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.192.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:55] LaserJock: I somehow blew away the libs/ dir earlier for some reason [05:55] well ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent needs to be in there as a minimum [05:55] and that is what I did this time around [05:55] LaserJock: check my directory now [05:56] nixternal: ok, hang on though [05:56] those are installed by ubuntu-docs [05:57] we can't install files that are going to be install by ubuntu-docs === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:58] LaserJock: that ent is just used to build the package [05:58] it isn't installed locally to the machine [05:58] oh wait, it is [05:58] it shouldn' t if you made the install file changes [05:58] I did make the changes [05:59] they go to edubuntu/libs/ now [05:59] but for gnome-menu-C that is in ubuntu/libs and not trunk/libs [05:59] but you know what, I don't have it copying over the ubuntu/libs or the libs/ though === nixternal checks something [06:00] the us.archives are garbage [06:01] LaserJock: this is goofy [06:01] KDE FTW! :) [06:02] LaserJock: the ubuntu-docs package slings the ent files everywhere as well [06:03] LaserJock: it will work!!!! [06:03] actually, the ubuntu-docs package is retarded [06:03] nixternal: yes, I'm just saying we can't be slinging the same files [06:04] what I had should work [06:04] LaserJock: in the package I just created, the only /libs slung were the edubuntu ones and they went into gnome/help/edubuntu/libs [06:05] why on earth am I using the Makefile then in Edubuntu docs if I am not building the HTML? [06:05] why are you? [06:05] I don't think you are [06:05] all that needs to be done is cp edubuntu/$$doc/C/*.xml to the proper [06:05] location [06:05] the Makefile builds HTML [06:05] so this stupid package I did, builds HTML into the build/ and does nothing with it [06:06] this is e.tarded [06:06] hehe [06:06] I am glad you are laughing :) [06:07] man, take a look at the ubuntu-docs.install in the ubuntu-docs package [06:07] there is no way that is correct [06:07] *ent is put everywhere but /etc I think [06:08] I know [06:08] LaserJock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7894/ [06:08] that is horsepoop [06:08] I said that's leftovers form when we were building HTML [06:09] that's why I gave you 1 line [06:09] heh, and that is great [06:09] but guess what, once you install the package, the docs aren't going to work [06:09] why? [06:09] because the headers in each .xml file points to ../../../libs/blah and ../../../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent [06:09] I believe they are there though [06:10] in ubuntu-docs [06:10] hence all the flinging [06:10] dude, I don't want to hear it :) [06:10] we might be off by one becuase of the edubuntu/ thing [06:10] after I stepped back and did the ../ and then ../ and then ../ I realized it will :) [06:10] but if you count the ../'s I think it might come out ok [06:11] we won't be off because the the third ../ takes us out of edubuntu [06:11] that is where I was getting confused [06:11] the only problem though is still with the ../../../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent [06:11] there is no ../../../ubuntu [06:11] you sure? [06:11] it is ../../../ubuntu-docs [06:15] LaserJock: is it plausable to change the gnome-menus in the each xml just for the package to ubuntu-docs instead? [06:15] but that is going to cause build issue [06:15] there's nothing to build! [06:16] the package will have the entity error though [06:16] building the package that is [06:16] maybe that's ok [06:16] should we give that a try? [06:16] hmm [06:16] seems like it's going to have issues regardless [06:17] because we are relying on ubuntu-docs [06:17] that is rather hackish, and I would definitely put a README in debian/ explaining that [06:17] we have already created the depends on ubuntu-docs [06:17] what in the build is complaining? scrollkeeper? [06:18] I didn't see any scrollkeeper complaints. remember you just seen the entity errors during pbuilder [06:18] but nothing should be built [06:18] you are right, I need to kill that Makefile [06:18] that Makefile is giving us our errors [06:18] man, I am used to building Kubuntu docs man [06:18] and that is fixing as well next release [06:19] I am changing all Kubuntu docs from .xml to .docbook and creating the cache.tar.gz and doing it like KDE [06:21] Has the simplified Help menu access been implemented yet in Feisty? [06:21] how simplified? [06:21] I can't remember what it's supposed to be [06:23] As in, not a submenu any more [06:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpAndSupportAccess [06:25] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3880 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: clarification [06:27] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3881 edubuntu/Makefile: no building html for edubuntu-docs package [06:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html [06:50] To activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal prompt: [06:50] -- sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh [06:50] ++ sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-78-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-78-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:13] mpt: yes, it has been implemented [07:17] LaserJock, awesome === j1mc is now known as j1mc_sleeping === silwol [n=silwol@194.152.122.177] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke stretches [09:06] hi mdke [09:06] hiya [09:06] how is everything going? [09:10] oh, decently well [09:10] and you? [09:11] mdke: you see the email from the forums guy wanting to redo the front page look? [09:11] yes, he mailed me privately first and I told him to mail the list [09:13] he was in here again today waiting for you [09:13] right [09:15] seems enthusiastic, any thoughts on his email? [09:22] well, I sort of think he needs to look at what we've got in Feisty already [09:23] I kinda like the little search bar in the sidbar [09:23] but it's kinda redundant with the search bar at the top [09:24] well, he removes the one at the top: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=26035&d=1172327793 [09:24] but yeah, he needs to work with the feisty code [09:26] it's more control-centerish [09:27] but like I told him today, we are quite far in the Feisty schedule to be starting this now [09:29] yeah [09:29] Control Center is not a good example to be starting from :-( [09:30] mpt: will you have a look at his mockups and give him some feedback? I wouldn't like him to get discouraged, even if he is working at the wrong time in the release cylce [09:30] :-) [09:30] I think we could use his enthusiasm for sure [09:30] mdke, sure [09:30] he's gotten in there and tweaked stuff [09:30] LaserJock: quite - the layout is not great atm [09:31] mpt: thanks [09:33] not long before string freeze now, we need to go over the docs and try and make sure there are no hideous gaps [09:34] well, I just loaded up yelp [09:34] and I can't access the man and info pages [09:34] when I click on them in the Advanced Topics it's a blank page [09:37] ok, docs-hacking time [09:42] LaserJock: confirmed. [09:43] k, it's always nice to know it's not just me [09:45] I think I know the reason [09:47] ok, off to work [09:51] mdke, why would he have said "I'm now using feisty, but the .xslt file isn't change" === glatzor [n=sebi@p5496745F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dgold_ is now known as dgold === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-doc.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | Get involved! http://www.mdke.org/?p=67 | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by crimsun at Sat Dec 30 01:13:50 2006 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-doc.log [11:16] ah, it was because I'd not only svn rm-ed something, I'd also rm-ed it [11:16] so svn silently sulked === mpt wonders why "svn revert" doesn't === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:55] New bug: #88615 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Default Firefox homepage in Xubuntu 6.10 says 'Xubuntu 6.06' (dup-of: 67966)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88615 === h4writer [n=h4writer@d51A48402.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jim__ [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-78-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === h4writer [n=h4writer@d51A48402.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@AC8F995E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === parktownprawn [n=kevin@203.212.216.128] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@AC8F995E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACCA2572.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silwol [n=silwol@194.152.122.177] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@AC8E010F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === popey [n=alan@ubuntu/member/popey] has joined #ubuntu-doc === medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] has joined #ubuntu-doc === medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] has joined #ubuntu-doc === medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:53] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3882 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: modem info (adsl, usb, and dialup) information added - ready for review [08:15] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3883 kubuntu/ (hardware/C/hardware.xml libs/kde-menus-C.ent): added keycombo for ctrl-alt-backspace and added hardware content - ati and nvidia driver installation info still needed === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === n1c0las [n=nicolas@nicolas.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-139-107.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === luzi [n=luzi@84-72-86-43.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-doc === philwyett [n=philwyet@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === h4writer [n=h4writer@d51A48402.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-237.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:14] hi everybody, I'm getting some problems when I try to build yelp. When I run fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage, it stops with the error: [11:14] dpkg-source -b yelp-2.16.2 [11:14] dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address [11:14] h4writer: You need an @ubuntu.com address in the Maintainer field of debian/control [11:15] but I've got no @ubuntu.com address [11:16] You'll need a team one or something then - I'm not quite sure how those work [11:24] I don't know it either:p === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-128-237.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:25] ^^ he might [11:26] I'm now trying with autogen.sh [11:26] that will probably work;-) [11:29] tonyyarusso: I went to the #ubuntuforums channel a time ago and they said something of [11:29] (11:20:42 PM) tsmithe: h4writer, you need "Ubuntu MOTU Developers (11:20:50 PM) tsmithe: and yourself as XSBC-Original-Maintainer [11:29] and I didn't know what it means so I stopped searching. If I need to know I will know in the future:p [11:30] h4writer: That's along the write lines at least. However, yelp is in main, so ubuntu-motu would seem a bit out of place. [11:32] autogen.sh definitly worked, but I don't got the newest yelp. So I think you need to put in a certain way the .diff file in the source. Am I correct? [11:33] I'm not sure about applying changes yet - I'm still working on making the initial package myself. [11:37] I think I've applied the .diff correctly [11:37] it's now building again [11:38] h4writer: you could just make up an @ubuntu.com address if you're just testing [11:40] and where do I need to specify? === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [11:53] h4writer: the Maintainer: field [11:53] in debian/control [11:53] mdke: around? [11:54] mdke: the server guide and packaging guide are built as html. but there's currently no provision in the packages to make it easy to read them [11:55] mdke: i.e. you have to open up /usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/C/index.html in a browser === kupesoft [n=dave@CPE00119583e9ae-CM0013718cb08a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:06] mpt_, I can make your request. I know python and gtk, so here it is c and gtk. So I can read a half;-)