[12:30] <asac> ok
[12:30] <asac> damn
[12:30] <asac> why can't i reproduce any of these crashes
[12:30] <asac> i want to fix the other tow
[12:30] <asac> so we still get nsFilePicker::Show ?
[12:30] <asac> and how about the other ::Run ?
[12:30] <asac> do we still get that crash?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> didnt retrace that last crash but give me a few and i will try ::run
[12:32] <asac> i will try chroot
[12:32] <asac> 32bit
[12:32] <asac> to crash
[12:35] <asac> ok can reproduce
[12:35] <asac> even in 64bit chroot
[12:35] <asac> lets see what trunk says
[12:38] <gnomefreak> do i have to try it since you did it?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> trunk says "its ubuntus fault" as they always do :(
[12:40] <asac> i can't get totem to play on trunk build
[12:40] <asac> hmm
[12:40] <asac> it loads but fails to write
[12:40] <asac> wait a sec
[12:40] <gnomefreak> thats because we dont have a version for it maybe?
[12:42] <asac> y
[12:45] <asac> hoped that plugin abi has not changed on trunk
[12:45] <asac> but don't know what the problem is atm
[12:45] <asac> ** Message: totem_embedded_set_error: 'An error occurred', 'Internal data flow error.'
[12:45] <asac> ** Message: StopStream signal received
[12:45] <asac> thats the error I get
[12:45] <asac> ** Message: DestroyStream reason 1
[12:45] <asac> totem window shows up
[12:45] <asac> but state STOPPED only
[12:45] <asac> no crash of course
[12:45] <gnomefreak> what one were you testing?
[12:53] <asac> the filepicker master
[12:53] <asac> it would be so good to see if its gone on trunk
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ah yeah already crashed that here
[12:53] <asac> if so, we could start the hunt
[12:53] <asac> on trunk?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> o
[12:53] <gnomefreak> no
[12:53] <gnomefreak> i havent figured out a way to have both on here and able to use either without changing symlinks
[12:54] <gnomefreak> trying bug 71182
[12:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71182 in firefox "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Run] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71182
[12:55] <asac> oh damn ... its all in reflow :)
[12:55] <asac> i hate reflow things
[12:55] <asac> its soo broken
[12:55] <asac> anything might happen
[12:59] <gnomefreak> reflow?
[12:59] <asac> yeah ... relayout / repaint of all elements in firefox
[12:59] <asac> starting from main window
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ok bbl dinner
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: working on the apport guide now
[01:07] <gnomefreak> ok ty give me link ill look at it after dinner
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> sounds good
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Guide
[01:39] <gnomefreak> damn your good
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> mostly a paste of you email, i'll look at more later
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> by later, I mean after I shower
[01:40] <asac> k
[01:40] <asac> good shower for you :)
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> more edits are done.
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> still doing more.
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> err not now, in a bit
[01:51] <gnomefreak> whats martins last name pitt?
[01:53] <asac> yes
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Guide#preview
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> err https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Guide
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> so far
[02:26] <asac> hmmm ... what is codec package for totem?
[02:26] <asac> i guess my chroot lacks codecs :)
[02:26] <asac> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main universe restricted
[02:26] <asac> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main universe restricted
[02:26] <gnomefreak> totem-xine?
[02:26] <asac> are those enough?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> for me it is
[02:26] <asac> totem-xine contains all codecs?
[02:26] <asac> ok
[02:27] <gnomefreak> everything for most part. some w32codecs arnt included
[02:28] <asac> maybe i lack some other packages ... installing meta package "gnome" now
[02:29] <asac> don't want all xserver stuff that ships with ubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <gnomefreak> i installed ubuntu-desktop for retraces
[02:30] <asac> gnomefreak: is this bug also reproducible with mplayer embedded plugin for you?
[02:30] <asac> or with gstreamer?
[02:30] <asac> totem-gstreamer?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i dont know i dont really know how to use mplayer plugin
[02:31] <asac> and totem-gstreamer?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> and im using totem-xine to reproduce it
[02:32] <gnomefreak> also totem-mozilla of course
[02:32] <asac> can you try totem-gstreamer instead of xine?
[02:32] <asac> anyway ... would be better if someone with mplayer could confirm
[02:33] <asac> totem-X probably have the same plugin integration
[02:33] <asac> layer
[02:33] <asac> so no way to isolate if its plugin specific or not
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: do you use mplayer? i know you dont like totem
[02:34] <asac> lets see
[02:34] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Guide
[02:34] <gnomefreak> there i added code blocks and took personal info out of it :)
[02:35] <gnomefreak> now i go smoke
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ok i officially hate writing wikis now
[02:40] <asac> :)
[02:43] <gnomefreak> asac: what are you still doing up?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> this patch can wait its been like this since 2.0
[02:56] <asac> sure :)
[02:57] <asac> will stop in 3 minutes
[03:03] <asac> k n8
[03:05] <gnomefreak> night
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> doing more work on this wiki page
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: did another edit, i'll save it soon.
[03:22] <gnomefreak> k
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: saving now, there is a small spelling error "seperating" as well.
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i cant spell that work
[03:27] <gnomefreak> word
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i left one comment too..
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a spell checker in the wiki, maybe it can correct it.
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i couldn't either... :)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> night
[09:33] <asac> anyone awake :)
[09:34] <asac> i gues not ;)
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i am asac
[09:48] <asac> Hey ... early man you are
[09:48] <asac> early classes?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: late night. trouble sleeping
[09:48] <asac> oh
[09:48] <asac> sorry for that ;)
[09:48] <asac> really
[09:49] <asac> good sleep is worth gold
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i figured i might as look at retraces instead of dual actual infomercials
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> have you ever seen those?
[09:49] <asac> dual actual infomercials?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> and I just realized Launchpad is down
[09:49] <asac> ah ;)
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> err...dual action
[09:49] <asac> yeah ... scheduled downtime
[09:50] <asac> hmmm can't parse infomercials ... not native speaker though
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> its these weird informercials about bowel movements by some guy Klee Irwin...they are ridiculously funny.
[09:50] <asac> ah ... maybe a US phenomenon ;)
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: commercials that sell things...like vaccums, diet pills, etc
[09:51] <asac> ah now i get it ... a bit ;)
[09:51] <asac> in tv ;)
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> where are you from anyways, I just came in here and found you working away
[09:52] <asac> hehe ... germany ... City: Hamburg ... if you know
[09:53] <asac> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Hamburg,+Germany,+binnenalster&layer=&sll=53.587614,10.038757&sspn=0.22458,0.808868&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=53.554765,9.99567&spn=0.014047,0.050554&t=k&om=1
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> now I've heard of it
[09:53] <asac> somewhere there :)
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> for some reason, I want to say my buddy went there for a trip.
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll have to ask him, I know he went to the other towns like Frankfurt.
[09:55] <asac> yeah ... but frankfurt is not such a nice town to visit
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> is that an apartment building or a large patch of dirt.
[09:55] <asac> its a big finance place with some sky scrapers
[09:55] <asac> but city overall is not beautiful ... and not that big
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i've only been there once and I stayed in the airpart
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> airport*
[09:56] <asac> frankfurt has big airport too ... yes ;)
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> well I live almost exactly here...http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=40.916472,-90.636917&spn=0.003567,0.007296&om=1
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> my college is small. the town i live in is small, the general area is very rural
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> quite different from my address in chicago
[09:59] <asac> monmoth
[09:59] <asac> monmouth
[09:59] <asac> yeah ... i guess thats right
[10:01] <gnomefreak> once LP comes back up i need to change the wget <link> in apport guide to be a generic one
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, other location. is here: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=40.916472,-90.636917&spn=0.003567,0.007296&om=1
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> right between the park and the airport on the right side.
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> like I said, a *big* difference between locations
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: wiki pages wouldn't let me log in a second ago
[10:02] <asac> same map for me :)
[10:04] <gnomefreak> yep wiki down too :( this couls make for a long day
[10:04] <gnomefreak> asac: how did the patch come?
[10:05] <asac> which one?
[10:05] <asac> the "fix all realize crashes" one?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:05] <asac> wait a second
[10:05] <asac> i have bits for you :)
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> speaking of patches, Fx 2.0.0.2 release didn't fix bookmarks dragging on my computer...maybe I can reproduce it on another Feisty system
[10:06] <asac> damn is rookery slow ... updating Packages.gz takes ages
[10:06] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: crashing?
[10:06] <asac> update :)
[10:06] <asac> mt-feisty
[10:07] <asac> please try if you can reproduce any patch
[10:07] <asac> any crash
[10:07] <asac> of course
[10:07] <asac> sorry ... my brain is completely patched up
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> to, it doesn't crash
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: what does it do?
[10:08] <asac> version is: 2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1.mt2
[10:08] <gnomefreak> asac: its not on your repo
[10:08] <gnomefreak> "yet" atleast
[10:08] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mt-feisty/ ?
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: makes a little image of a page, and when I release, the image zooms back
[10:09] <asac> should be
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, maybe I can grab a video.
[10:09] <gnomefreak> k i see it here
[10:09] <asac> from what i know all realize crashes base on the same problem ... we have a plugin ... plugin gets removed (e.g. tab close, window close), etc.
[10:09] <gnomefreak> thats strange. it didnt show any new when i did apt-get update
[10:10] <asac> then ANY new gtk widget shown can generate the crash
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> okay wait *now* it is working
[10:10] <asac> what is working?
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> bookmark dragging.
[10:10] <asac> gnomefreak: you still have it in your sources?
[10:10] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: crashed?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:11] <asac> or just worked (TM)
[10:11] <asac> gnomefreak: still not there?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm seems to be ignoring it
[10:11] <gnomefreak> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mt-feisty/ ./
[10:12] <gnomefreak> Get:6 http://people.ubuntu.com ./ Packages [2468B] 
[10:12] <asac> yes
[10:12] <asac> thats right
[10:13] <gnomefreak> hmmm its not ignoring it now but not updating it
[10:13] <asac> that might be true ... because of apt policy or something
[10:13] <asac> hmm
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ah now its got it
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: not a crash, but it wouldn't let me drag and drop. now it works fine.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> had to run it 3 times
[10:14] <asac> yes ... that was fixed in 2.0.0.2
[10:14] <asac> we need a crash on drag
[10:14] <asac> :)
[10:14] <asac> if someone can reproduce we can better verify :)
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i know, but i had 2.0.0.2 and it wouldn't work still. now it does for some reason. I have yet to crash on dragging a bookmark afaik
[10:15] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: read above ... its most likely due to some embedded plugin stuff
[10:15] <asac> so loading totem in tab, then closing is always a good start
[10:15] <asac> maybe same with flash
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> yup i remember the crash.
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll try to reproduce it in a second
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ah i like when there is only 30 emails in my inbox :)
[10:16] <asac> gnomefreak: update downloading?
[10:16] <asac> gnomefreak: lp down :)
[10:16] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:17] <gnomefreak> damnit
[10:17] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr
[10:17] <asac> what?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> david filed a bug for giving tags "changing and stuff" karma but LP is down so i cant read it
[10:18] <asac> yeah ... time to verify crash :)
[10:19] <gnomefreak> im gonna need an hour give or take befire i can test it (its got 58 minnutes left on download
[10:19] <asac> oh god
[10:20] <asac> maybe remove -dbg package first?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> firefox-dbg is huge on this shitty connection
[10:20] <asac> ack
[10:21] <gnomefreak> removing it now
[10:21] <asac> maybe i should provide -dbgsym packages instead
[10:21] <asac> you don't need that bit -dbg, right?
[10:21] <asac> its just convenience to have symbols of right version?
[10:21] <asac> s/bit/big/
[10:22] <gnomefreak> for most part.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> always good ot have IMHO
[10:23] <asac> but dbgsym are 1/10000th of dbg size ... and stacktraces look the same if both are from same version
[10:23] <asac> not?
[10:30] <asac> finally i managed to unsubscribe from ubuntu-bugs
[10:31] <gnomefreak> never tried without -dbg installed
[10:31] <gnomefreak> maybe i will today
[10:31] <asac> :)
[10:31] <asac> probably you now don't have proper dbgsym packages for your version :)
[10:32] <asac> gnomefreak: I couldn't reproduce filepicker bug anymore ... so i am eager to get results ... will now do something else for a big
[10:32] <asac> bit
[10:33] <asac> actually I think I understood why there are also realize traces filed in theme bug ... switching theme could crash in two ways:
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ok ill let you know what i get
[10:33] <asac> 1. the issue already solved
[10:34] <asac> 2. it triggers a restyle ... same as open filepicker, dragging (sometimes), etc.
[10:34] <asac> first one is already fixed in last preview
[10:34] <asac> 2nd one hopefully now
[10:35] <gnomefreak> can i have the link from the test case on the filepicker bug?
[10:35] <asac> i guess if you open video, close it, open it again, close it again and then switch theme instead of save link as ... you will crash too
[10:36] <asac> luckily i bookmarked it
[10:36] <asac> here are videos
[10:36] <asac> http://digital-desert.com/mpg-videos/
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ah ty
[10:38] <gnomefreak> fixxed here
[10:38] <gnomefreak> i tired it 2 times
[10:38] <gnomefreak> tried
[10:39] <gnomefreak> should i go back to ubuntu version of firefox? or will it upgrade smoothly?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> just wondering did you checkt he tb-locales build that i did? i was wondering it i did it right
[10:42] <asac> oh
[10:42] <asac> i forgot about that sorry
[10:42] <gnomefreak> thats ok
[10:42] <asac> please keep using current preview
[10:42] <gnomefreak> will do
[10:42] <asac> and try to reproduce both variants
[10:42] <asac> that worked before
[10:42] <asac> and of course, for normal use
[10:43] <asac> lets see if other problems appear because of the new patch
[10:43] <gnomefreak> as sson as Lp gets back up i can test against testcase
[10:43] <asac> imo all bugs should be gone
[10:43] <asac> if you don't see crashes and we find noone who can confirm drag crash reliably
[10:44] <asac> we will mark all as dupe of master bug (filepicker) and you get the honour to close this mamouth bug when upload done :)
[10:44] <asac> -> if it really fixes filepicker we should just close all realize bugs
[10:44] <asac> and see if new reports pop up after release
[10:44] <asac> maybe all is gone
[10:44] <asac> at least on this front
[10:46] <gnomefreak> true
[10:47] <gnomefreak> why do people who dont know what they are doing use feisty with a unifficial sources list :(
[10:47] <asac> try to use embed plugins as much as you can (e.g. flash too)
[10:47] <asac> gnomefreak: because they don't know what they do?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> good point
[10:48] <gnomefreak> how long before you want this uploaded?
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[11:27] <gnomefreak> ok ill find it
[11:28] <gnomefreak> and to your karma question. no
[11:28] <gnomefreak> asac: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Thunderbird-Feisty/Thunderbird-Locales_1.5.0.2/
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Lp is back up
[11:29] <gnomefreak> and going down again soon
[11:30] <ajmitch> or the notice has just been left there mistakenly
[11:31] <asac> what? has there been a split or did you communicate private before?
[11:32] <asac> gnomefreak: added to todo
[11:33] <gnomefreak> its on the top of the LP pages that it will go back down. ajmitch might be correct (as normal)
[11:39] <asac> k
[11:52] <hjmf> gnomefreak: are you retracing today?
[11:52] <hjmf> I'm getting this on the Stacktraces:
[11:52] <hjmf> Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[11:53] <hjmf> Is an LP issue or just the result of upgrading to apport 0.61
[11:53] <hjmf> I'm doing a batch of feisty backtraces
[11:54] <hjmf> s/back.*/retraces
[11:54] <gnomefreak> hjmf: yes i am but havent hit my feisty ones yet.
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i have seen that before when was last time you got that?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> within last 30 minutes?
[11:58] <hjmf> 5 minutes ago
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i cant remember why i got that error but i do remember it and i remember getting around it :(
[11:59] <gnomefreak> hjmf: is the coredump.gz and the other 5 files there?
[11:59] <hjmf> gnomefreak:  I think so. I'll try to downgrade to 0.60 to see if it works
[12:00] <asac> hjmf: unless there are issues processing the trace you can discard such reports
[12:00] <asac> reject with: crash report has not enough details to process properly.
[12:01] <hjmf> the CoreDumps are OK
[12:01] <asac> maybe encourage reporter to report crashes anyway
[12:01] <gnomefreak> hjmf: give me link to bug i will attempt it.
[12:01] <asac> hjmf: sometimes process end in complete corruption
[12:01] <asac> then you won't get a meaningfull trace
[12:01] <asac> but anyway ... maybe we should keep them open and try if we can improve trace somehow
[12:02] <asac> e.g. by running gdb with coredump manually instead of apport-retrace
[12:02] <gnomefreak> i ask for full report normally
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: so what is missing in that specific report?
[12:02] <asac> core dump is there?
[12:02] <asac> what else?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> what bug?
[12:02] <asac> usually coredump should be enough?
[12:02] <asac> ask hjmf
[12:02] <asac> ?
[12:02] <hjmf> I'm getting such errors in bug #87369, bug #87367, bug #87268, bug #87215
[12:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87369 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369
[12:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87367 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87367
[12:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87268 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87268
[12:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87215 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87215
[12:03] <gnomefreak> only for apport. gdb doesnt work on coredumps iirc
[12:03] <asac> gnomefreak: sure it does
[12:03] <asac> it should at least :)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> hjmf: im taking one of them see what i get in a bit
[12:03] <hjmf> gnomefreak: k
[12:04] <asac> see man gdb (1)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> asac: it can be used but you dont get a usful stack
[12:04] <gnomefreak> so to me its pretty much useless
[12:05] <asac> hmm
[12:05] <asac> i think you lack a proper LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[12:05] <asac> which is set in /usr/bin/firefox
[12:06] <asac> maybe add an echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH before programm is executed in that script
[12:06] <asac> and set it by hand
[12:06] <asac> before running gdb with
[12:06] <asac> coredump
[12:06] <asac> but i can try that
[12:06] <asac> l8er
[12:06] <asac> :)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> hjmf: ok running script ill let you know :)
[12:07] <asac> ok ... doing somehow extended lunch now
[12:08] <gnomefreak> k
[12:13] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I'm getting the same output with apport old version 0.60
[12:13] <hjmf> :/
[12:16] <gnomefreak> what version of ff are you using?
[12:17] <hjmf> 2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1
[12:18] <gnomefreak> k
[12:21] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I'm going to try an older bug to see if this has been caused by the LP down time
[12:22] <hjmf> probably not, but lets check
[12:22] <gnomefreak> k
[12:32] <poningru> guys should 2.0.0.2 release be included in herd5 release notes?
[12:34] <asac> dunno
[12:34] <asac> herd5 release notes author can decide if that is important news
[12:35] <asac> gone again
[12:36] <asac> poningru: guess 2.0.0.2 is noteworthy ... if its in
[12:37] <asac> because its so hot
[12:37] <asac> atm
[12:38] <poningru> ...
[12:38] <poningru> of release notes
[12:39] <poningru> asac: so yeah but the big thing is its just a security release so...
[12:43] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i didnt get an error on bug 87369 i will try mine as soon as i get to them. i cant upload stack for 87369 because i used wrong version of firefox.
[12:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87369 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369
[12:45] <darkk> hello, is it a right place to ask about thunderbird under ubuntu?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> darkk: whats up?
[12:46] <poningru> sure
[12:46] <darkk> here is situation. I want to have something like "everything in local folders but single inbox for every mailbox", I setup filter rules and create child directories under "Inbox". Junk control works BUT there is issue: ...
[12:47] <darkk> the issue is that mails that go into inbox/in_foobar are marked as junk, but are not moved to junk
[12:47] <hjmf> gnomefreak: no way, Ive tried with both firefox *-dbg  *-dbgsym 2.0.0.1 and 2.0.0.2; and apport's 0.60 and 0.61. Always same output. I'll look later again. Now I'm out. Bye.
[12:47] <poningru> darkk: are these imap or pop accounts?
[12:47] <darkk> pop3
[12:47] <poningru> and what version of thunderbird?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> bye ill try with right firefox as soon as i can
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i believe its a known issue.
[12:48] <darkk> poningru, 1.5.0.9
[12:48] <gnomefreak> iirc bug filed on it already. but check i may be mistaken
[12:48] <poningru> darkk: ok so junk mail filter you can mess with under tool-> junk mail filter options
[12:49] <darkk> poningru, but if message is not filtered to inbox subfolder but goes to inbox it's moved to junk
[12:50] <poningru> darkk: for the individual folders go and turn off global inbox
[12:50] <darkk> poningru, and sometimes it's moved to junk as soon as I open the inbox/foobar subfolder (but I still have to listen to the bell - "new spam arrived") :)
[12:50] <poningru> from each account
[12:51] <darkk> poningru, everything but "local folders" is turned off. should I turn it on?
[12:51] <poningru> darkk: under account settings?
[12:52] <poningru> darkk: the prob is I am running 2.0b so I cant check
[12:52] <poningru> I have to sleep
[12:52] <poningru> be back in like 2 hours
[12:52] <darkk> poningru, I speak about tools/junk mail control
[12:52] <darkk> ok, goodnight
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: thank you for the apport wiki.
[01:30] <asac> k somehhow back
[01:35] <gnomefreak> asac: do you know anything about darkk's tb issue by chance?
[01:40] <asac> darks?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:00] <darkk> here is info from #thunderbird
[02:00] <darkk> 18:59 <@firebot> sp3000: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329569 nor, --, ---, bienvenu@nventure.com, RESO FIXED, Automatic
[02:00] <darkk>                  junk (spam) detection on messages moved by a filter.
[02:00] <darkk> 18:59 <@firebot> sp3000: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233930 nor, --, ---, sspitzer@mozilla.org, NEW, Still get
[02:00] <darkk>                  notification for junk that's been filtered to a different folder
[02:01] <Ubugtu> Mozilla bug 329569 in MailNews: Filters "Automatic junk (spam) detection on messages moved by a filter." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] 
[02:01] <Ubugtu> Mozilla bug 233930 in MailNews: Filters "Still get notification for junk that's been filtered to a different folder" [Normal,New] 
[02:26] <gnomefreak> hjmf: im getting same error using stck firefox :(
[02:26] <gnomefreak> asac: bad news
[02:26] <gnomefreak> stock*
[02:28] <gnomefreak> hjmf asac bug 87369 is x86 that might be ther reason for the failure. hjmf please check the bugs to see if all are x86. im gonna run a few i686 and see if i get same output.
[02:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87369 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ha
[02:31] <gnomefreak> uname is sending wrong info i think see bug 87369 user states its x86 and uname states its i686
[02:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87369 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369
[02:32] <gnomefreak> unless hes running ia32libs or chroot maybe the cause of confusion
[02:35] <gnomefreak> asac: maybe try the above bug and see if x86 gets the error also (unless hjmf has x86)
[02:37] <AlexLatchford> Admiral_Chicago: Great job on the Apport Guide, just read over it, its very easy to read and actually does it's job very well
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ty aal	 :)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ty AlexLatchford even
[02:39] <AlexLatchford> yeah, I will re-read it later and actually follow it to get my setup functioning :)
[02:39] <AlexLatchford> see whether or not the commands are correct :)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> i might add a script to it also
[02:39] <gnomefreak> they better be they work here
[02:40] <asac> gnomefreak: its x86_64
[02:40] <asac> not x86
[02:40] <gnomefreak> that too ;)
[02:40] <asac> x86 alone is == i386
[02:41] <asac> :)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:41] <gnomefreak> well it doesnt work outside of x86_64 is all i know
[02:41] <asac> anyway will try bug 87369 in 64bit
[02:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87369 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369
[02:41] <asac> but doubt that it will be better
[02:42] <gnomefreak> im trying a few assigned to me for feisty i686 to see if i get error
[02:44] <asac> hey ... i just fell asleep right next to the keyboard :) ... so don't tell me about tired ;)
[02:44] <gnomefreak> :) you were up late lastnight working on patch
[02:44] <asac> yeah
[02:44] <asac> ;)
[02:45] <asac> fortunately ... or not ... hope it was worth the efford :)
[02:45] <asac> if not ... no problem either ... did useless nights before ;)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> well up until i had to go back to stock ff it worked good on everything but i had to come back down to do retraces
[02:46] <asac> sure
[02:46] <gnomefreak> once i figure this issue out and get the 4 or so done i will go back to it
[02:46] <gnomefreak> it doesnt frigging matter :(
[02:47] <asac> result of bug 87369 in feisty chroot
[02:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87369 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369
[02:47] <asac> --- stack trace ---
[02:47] <asac> #0  0x0000000000000000 in _start () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[02:47] <asac> --- thread stack trace ---
[02:47] <asac> .
[02:47] <asac> Thread 12 (process 10224):
[02:47] <asac> #0  0x0000000000000000 in _start () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[02:47] <asac> .
[02:47] <gnomefreak> asac: i think we are gonna have to put feisty retraces on hold
[02:47] <asac> Thread 11 (process 10225):
[02:47] <asac> #0  0x0000000000000000 in _start () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[02:47] <asac> ... so no x86_64 I would say
[02:47] <asac> why?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> does it end with Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[02:48] <asac> that would be a shame
[02:48] <asac> no it does not
[02:48] <gnomefreak> all mine are ending that way
[02:48] <asac> it ends like i pasted
[02:48] <asac> i will try in 32bit chroot
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Done downloading
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Done download--- stack trace ---
[02:48] <gnomefreak> #0  0xb7f00410 in _start () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[02:48] <gnomefreak> #1  0xb7d504f1 in ?? ()
[02:48] <gnomefreak> #2  0x0805b30c in SIGTERM_oldact ()
[02:48] <gnomefreak> #3  0x0000000b in ?? ()
[02:48] <gnomefreak> #4  0xbfe63dc8 in ?? ()
[02:48] <gnomefreak> #5  0x08057596 in nsProfileLock::operator= (this=0xb, rhs=@0xbfe63d3c) at nsProfileLock.cpp:96
[02:48] <gnomefreak> No locals.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[02:48] <gnomefreak> --- thread stack trace ---
[02:48] <gnomefreak> thread stack ends same way
[02:49] <gnomefreak> pretty much useless retraces on these
[02:49] <asac> hmm
[02:49] <hjmf> asac gnomefreak I've retraced bugs that yesterday were  retraced OK and I'm getting today this odd error
[02:49] <gnomefreak> maybe ping pitti about it?
[02:49] <asac> have you found no other report from today?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> hjmf: me too
[02:50] <gnomefreak> today i started having issues with them. hjmf ar eyou using normal LP or beta?
[02:50] <hjmf> well the default from apport-retrace
[02:52] <asac> anyone is list admin
[02:53] <asac> i apparently sent 80k message to list ... now awaiting moderator approvalk
[02:55] <Admiral_Chicago> AlexLatchford: thanks
[02:55] <asac> hjmf: how many so far? I saw those PC problem before ... maybe just a coincident that 2 or 3 bad reports have been posted in a row?
[02:57] <hjmf> asac: no, I've retraced crashes today with that error that were retraced OK yesterday
[02:57] <asac> hmm ... only ffox upgrade in between?
[02:57] <hjmf> I'm reinstalling firefox back to v2.0.0.1 to see if I get
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ill get it
[02:58] <asac> yeah please try
[02:58] <hjmf> better results though I've tried before
[02:58] <hjmf> that is. Maybe an issue with firefox-dbg 2.0.0.2 ??
[02:59] <gnomefreak> asac: that should do it :)
[02:59] <hjmf> I'm uploading good stacktrace with gdb 2.0.0.1 to bug 87268; give me a second
[02:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87268 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87268
[02:59] <asac> yes let me see
[02:59] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i only have 2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1
[03:00] <asac> if i changed code-base of code related to that then maybe traces with new version rust return garbage
[03:00] <gnomefreak> hjmf: what is the full version number
[03:01] <asac> 88304 is colorzilla issue
[03:01] <hjmf> gnomefreak:  with this one the retraces are OK firefox-dbg 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1
[03:02] <gnomefreak> ill try to install it
[03:02] <gnomefreak> E: Version '2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1' for 'firefox' was not found
[03:02] <gnomefreak> im not gonna beable to use it
[03:02] <hjmf> the error is with firefox-dbg_2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:02] <hjmf> downoad it from mirrors
[03:03] <gnomefreak> assuming a mirror still has it
[03:03] <hjmf> http://mirror.linux.org.mt/mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-dbg_2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:05] <asac> anyone gets repetitive notice that he upgraded to 2.0.0.2 ?
[03:05] <asac> e.g. on each startup?
[03:05] <hjmf> I don't; or I haven't noticed
[03:05] <gnomefreak> i keep getting binary when clicking on the package :( using wget atm
[03:05] <gnomefreak> he?
[03:06] <asac> bug 88304 is colorzilla bug ... it crashes on loading  (incompatible) colorzilla ... is duplicate of other colorzilla bug so
[03:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88304 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88304
[03:06] <asac> hjmf: feisty?
[03:06] <hjmf> both
[03:06] <asac> you get upgrade notice on first startup ... then not anymore? can you please try on feisty?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> asac: i only got it once for each upgrade/downgrade
[03:08] <asac> yeah ... me too
[03:08] <asac> but pitti gets it on every startup
[03:10] <gnomefreak> tell him to check his home page setting see if ther eis 2 entriesmaybe?
[03:10] <hjmf> asac: wait a moment, I'll see
[03:11] <hjmf> asac: only happened the first time.
[03:12] <hjmf> asac: forget, I've realized that I downgrade to 2.0.0.1 for the retraces :P
[03:12] <asac> :)
[03:12] <hjmf> give me a second to upgrade again
[03:15] <hjmf> no, I dont get a upgrade notice now, but I've seen it before on first upgrade this moring
[03:18] <asac> ok
[03:19] <asac> its all fine ... unless you never quit firefox ... e.g. only stop by X logout
[03:20] <gnomefreak> because its essentially crashing
[03:22] <gnomefreak> if you shut down ff by logging out or rebooting... than you get crash dialog on next startup
[03:22] <asac> yeah ... but is "firefox does not safe prefs on SIGTERM" or something
[03:22] <asac> s/but/bug/
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ah
[03:23] <gnomefreak> im still confused on this apport issue
[03:23] <asac> i can't tell much about it
[03:23] <asac> other than that 88304 worked with latest ffox installed
[03:23] <gnomefreak> ive had 2.0.0.2 fpor a while why suddenly today it stops working
[03:23] <asac> in feisty i*86 chroot
[03:24] <AlexLatchford> Has someone posted the meeting up on the fridge yet?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:24] <asac> i think those issues that are now fixed might stopped working ... because the code base the stack runs through was modified by my fix
[03:24] <gnomefreak> tues. the 6th at 1900 i think
[03:24] <gnomefreak> 18:00
[03:24] <AlexLatchford> okay
[03:24] <asac> of course only if it works with current offical ... but not with current mt2 release
[03:25] <AlexLatchford> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/2007/03/28/month/all/all/1
[03:25] <gnomefreak> i got same result on official
[03:25] <AlexLatchford> you sure?
[03:25] <asac> do we have a calendar I might integrate in my google calendar?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> doubt it
[03:25] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: did you email it in
[03:25] <AlexLatchford> ?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: nixternal said he did it
[03:25] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
[03:26] <gnomefreak> no i personally talk to nixternal who does it in pm with me
[03:26] <gnomefreak> its there
[03:26] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: its tuesday march 6th
[03:27] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[03:27] <gnomefreak> and thats my fault i thought the 6th was a monday
[03:27] <AlexLatchford> lol fair enough
[03:27] <AlexLatchford> yeah I can attend the 6th, probably the 5th also if it is at that time
[03:27] <AlexLatchford> want me to announce on the mailing list?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> hjmf: do i need to downgrade firefox also or just -dbg
[03:28] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: yeah please do
[03:28] <AlexLatchford> okay
[03:29] <gnomefreak> i forgot to after i asked
[03:29] <hjmf> gnomefreak: this is what i've done:
[03:29] <hjmf> apt-get remove firefox
[03:30] <hjmf> dpkg -i firefox_2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb firefox-dbg_2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb firefox-gnome-support_2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb firefox-themes-ubuntu_0.5.4.1_all.deb mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1_all.deb mozilla-mplayer_3.31+main-1ubuntu1_i386.deb sun-java5-plugin_1.5.0-11-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:30] <hjmf> to cope with all the deps
[03:30] <gnomefreak> you got them all from the mirror you gave me?
[03:30] <hjmf> no, most of them where already in the apt cache
[03:30] <hjmf> I just downloaded the -db
[03:31] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[03:31] <hjmf> -dbg
[03:32] <hjmf> gnomefreak: if you want to test, try to retrace bug 87367 I'm not happy with that Stacktrace
[03:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87367 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87367
[03:32] <gnomefreak> k
[03:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88304 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88304
[03:38] <asac> as well
[03:38] <asac> :)
[03:39] <asac> hjmf: 87367 probably this one needs an old firefox install as well
[03:39] <hjmf> multi-retrace script ?
[03:39] <asac> yeah
[03:39] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/multi-retrace.sh
[03:39] <asac> just run it
[03:39] <gnomefreak> yeah i was gonna add that to the wiki
[03:39] <asac> and add as much bug numbers as parameter as you want
[03:39] <asac> it will generate retrace.bugid.log in directory you run this in
[03:39] <gnomefreak> asac: does it do them same time?
[03:40] <asac> you mean in parallel?
[03:40] <hjmf> well I do: for bug in # # # # ... do (my only one crash retrace script) ; done :)
[03:40] <hjmf> I'lll take a look to yours
[03:40] <asac> yeah ... its the same :)
[03:40] <asac> just that i setup retrace.bugid.log
[03:42] <hjmf> This is mine, sorry for the mess
[03:42] <hjmf> #! /bin/bash -x
[03:42] <hjmf> BUGNUMBER=$1
[03:42] <hjmf> WORK_D="/home/bugsquad/retrace_tmp/f_$BUGNUMBER"
[03:42] <hjmf> [ -d "${WORK_D}" ]  || mkdir -p "${WORK_D}"
[03:42] <hjmf> cd "${WORK_D}"
[03:42] <hjmf> apport-retrace -s -v -d -C /tmp/ddebs $BUGNUMBER 2> retrace.err > retrace.out
[03:42] <hjmf> sed -n '/^--- stack/,/--- thread/ {p}' retrace.out > retraced_Stacktrace.txt
[03:42] <hjmf> sed -n '/^--- thread/,$ {p}' retrace.out > retraced_Thread_Stacktrace.txt
[03:42] <asac> yeah ... we don't need directories ... thats why i just generate retrace.bugid.log :)
[03:42] <hjmf> then the stacktrace is at f_bugnum/retraced_Stacktrace.txt
[03:43] <asac> yep ... works as well of course
[03:43] <asac> maybe we can combine both
[03:43] <asac> e.g. filter out stacktrace ... but don't use dirs for each bug
[03:44] <hjmf> It's for having in different files the stderr stdout and finally the stacktrace
[03:44] <asac> yeah ... but that could be in one directory too (me likes flat files) :)
[03:44] <hjmf> the stderr is mainly for dep issues
[03:44] <asac> e.g. retrace.bugid.log + retrace.bugid.out + retrace.bugid.err :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> updating apt's cache maybe it will than give me more than one choice
[03:45] <hjmf> I see your point
[03:45] <asac> sure :)
[03:46] <asac> apport-retrace -s -v -d -C /tmp/ddebs $BUGNUMBER 2> retrace.$BUGNUMBER.err > retrace.$BUGNUMBER.out
[03:46] <hjmf> for edgys apport the script is a little bit different, it checks (buggy atm) for crashreport on LP downloads it and then does its job
[03:47] <asac> yeah ... you have that one too?
[03:47] <asac> I would really like to have a sophisticated one bug script
[03:47] <asac> that can try both ... first feisty, then edgy
[03:47] <asac> :)
[03:47] <asac> at best runs each retrace in a chroot or something
[03:48] <asac> if you can bring both "one bugid retrace" scripts up, i see what i can do
[03:48] <hjmf> well I've both chroots sharing script dir :)
[03:49] <asac> sure ... but you still have to chroot feisty + try ... then maybe chroot edgy + try
[03:49] <asac> or take a look at bug first :)
[03:49] <asac> i want something that i can let run through all bugs without looking at them first :)
[03:49] <asac> at least to process most ;)
[03:49] <hjmf> yes, atm it's more manual than automatic :)
[03:50] <asac> :) ... yeah lets push that back ... anyway your edgy script would be nice to see
[03:50] <asac> if i have time i build something really automated out of both :)
[03:50] <hjmf> give me a moment to see if I can hang it some where
[03:51] <hjmf> which was the place to put those things
[03:51] <hjmf> ? clipboard web or something ? I just dont remember
[03:52] <asac> hmm
[03:52] <asac> some webspace?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> pastebin?
[03:52] <asac> or pastebin if nothing else works
[03:52] <hjmf> pastebin that is
[03:52] <hjmf> just I didnt remember
[03:52] <hjmf> give me a minute
[03:53] <asac> take your time ... will probably not work on this the next 24 hours :)
[03:59] <hjmf> asac: seems that pastebin is not working for me
[03:59] <hjmf> :(
[04:02] <hjmf> asac: http://pastebin.co.uk/11165
[04:04] <hjmf> and the function library called in that script is at http://pastebin.co.uk/11166
[04:06] <hjmf> it is just bad code (prototyped) that for some reason works :)
[04:06] <asac> hmmm uploading files would be easier
[04:06] <asac> not good to cut and paste from there
[04:07] <gnomefreak> to set up a second chroot would i use a place other than /var/chroot maybe like /var/chroot2
[04:07] <asac> i have all chroots in /srv/chroots/
[04:07] <asac> e.g. /srv/chroots/edgy1 feisty2 feisty32 :)
[04:07] <gnomefreak> oh
[04:08] <asac> but thats because I have a separate hd partition for them
[04:08] <asac> hjmf: yeah :)
[04:08] <asac> there should be some free providers out there
[04:09] <asac> you could also setup dyndns for such small files
[04:09] <asac> and webserver on your local system
[04:09] <hjmf> That scares me a lot 8O!!!
[04:10] <hjmf> I've got that web server for my intranet ; but really really well closed to the outside worl
[04:10] <hjmf> d
[04:10] <asac> k
[04:10] <asac> :)
[04:13] <hjmf> time to do some real world work; see you later
[04:15] <asac> cu
[04:22] <asac> ok ... ill be off for some ours ... will try to reach mconnor from mozilla to do initial patch screening for approval later. so ill be back sometime
[04:22] <gnomefreak> asac: ok with dchroot i can run dchroot -d and it defaults to edgys. how do i choose feistys? i have /var/chroot/edgy /var/chroot/feisty
[04:22] <asac> dunno
[04:22] <asac> i use schroot
[04:22] <asac> i edit /etc/schroot/schroot.conf
[04:22] <asac> and add an entry for each chroot i have
[04:22] <asac> then i say
[04:23] <gnomefreak> i did too well /etc/dchroot
[04:23] <asac> schroot -c feisty2
[04:23] <asac> or something
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ok
[04:23] <asac> yeah ... man dchroot
[04:23] <asac> there should be an option to give name for chroot you want to switch in
[04:23] <asac> maybe just dchroot feisty ?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> no i got it its -c not -d
[04:27] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:17] <asac> btw, http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/embed_restyle_fix.patch is the tiny patch that might help so many not to crash :)
[05:17] <asac> and which took me the night to figure out :)
[06:53] <gnomefreak> thi sis taking way too long :(
[06:54] <gnomefreak> this is*
[07:02] <hjmf> asac gnomefreak take a look my new retrace script. It handles (prototype, not error check, and dirty coded) edgys and feistys bugs from LP bug numbers
[07:02] <hjmf> its at http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hjmf/retrace_bug.sh
[07:03] <hjmf> you need an edgy's chroot named edgy and an feisty's chroot named feisty using dchroot
[07:03] <asac> ok ... last action for today ;)
[07:04] <hjmf> and a directory (you can change it in the script) named /home/bugsquad/retrace_tmp/ whithin each chroot
[07:09] <asac> #CHROOT_CMD="schroot -c "
[07:09] <asac> CHROOT_CMD="dchroot --chroot "
[07:09] <asac> maybe add this to the top
[07:09] <asac> as i use schroot
[07:09] <asac> (e.g. dchroot is deprecated and just wrapper around schroot now)
[07:09] <asac> and then:
[07:10] <asac>         *crash) WORK_D="$BASE_DIR/e_$BUGNUMBER"; ${CHROOT_CMD}edgy "
[07:10] <asac> right?
[07:10] <asac> you get what i mean?
[07:10] <asac> CHROOT_EDGY=edgy1
[07:10] <asac> CHROOT_FEISTY=feisty2
[07:11] <asac> and parameterize chroot names as well (like this)
[07:11] <asac> as I have lots of chroots :)
  you get what i mean?
[07:12] <asac> maybe we can put defaults in there and allow users to maintain $HOME/.mttracerc :)
[07:12] <hjmf> yes, it was quick and dirty
[07:12] <hjmf> didn't know about dchroot
[07:12] <asac> hjmf: ok ... if you want me to improve it ... i might do as I use it
[07:12] <asac> no problem
[07:12] <hjmf> asac: sure
[07:13] <asac> if you find things to improve go ahead ... i will try to find some bzr repository we can use to maintain code like this
[07:13] <hjmf> just let me know a link to see the upgrades :)
[07:13] <asac> any idea how that works here for ubuntu? how can you get write access for it?
[07:13] <hjmf> no idea
[07:13] <hjmf> maybe gnomefreak would know
[07:14] <gnomefreak> what?
[07:14] <asac> k
[07:14] <asac> gnomefreak: read above :)
[07:14] <gnomefreak> the repo?
[07:14] <asac> hjmf: you use my preview mt2 release of 2.0.0.2 for regular browsing too?
[07:15] <asac> gnomefreak: how can we get a bzr repo
[07:15] <hjmf> mt2?
[07:15] <asac> ?
[07:15] <asac> yeah latest version in my feisty preview archive
[07:15] <gnomefreak> asac: daniel i think would be the one to ask about that
[07:15] <asac> it contains fix for all those realize crashers
[07:15] <asac> i need feedback if there are some regressions due to this
[07:15] <asac> especially when using embedded plugins
[07:15] <hjmf> asac: no, but I can do it
[07:16] <hjmf> but not now :(
[07:16] <asac> :)
[07:16] <asac> gnomefreak: what kind?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> people.ubuntu.com
[07:16] <asac> hmm
[07:17] <gnomefreak> does that come with devel team?
[07:17] <asac> when do you get that ... if motu member?
[07:17] <asac> devel team yes.
[07:17] <gnomefreak> ah
[07:17] <asac> don't know if motu as well ... but i think so
[07:17] <gnomefreak> ok setting up feisty chroot with packages i need adn im setting mt2 back up outside of chroot
[07:18] <asac> gnomefreak: thanks for the great service ... i use it too here on edgy ... so far no regressions ... other than no crashes anymore :)
[07:21] <gnomefreak> fx mt2?
[07:22] <asac> yes mt2
[07:23] <asac> ok ... my batteries are up for today ... maybe cu tomorrow ... gnomefreak you leave?
[07:23] <gnomefreak> i might be here early morning other than that maybe not
[07:23] <gnomefreak> leaving at 5am EST 9-10 hour drive
[07:24] <asac> ok ... take care when travelling
[07:24] <gnomefreak> have funn
[07:24] <asac> cu soon :)
[07:24] <asac> u2
[07:24] <asac> bye all
[07:24] <gnomefreak> bye
[07:36] <hjmf> for today is enough. cu all
[11:42] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 88760 for you.
[11:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88760 in firefox "Firefox 1.5.0.10 still missing in repos for Dapper/amd64" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88760
[12:02] <gnomefreak> even with firefox-dbg    2.0.0.1+1-0 and  firefox        2.0.0.1+1-0 I still get that damn error Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC. I will see if i get time while im in PA to screw with this