[12:01] <linxeh> Stormbind: hmmm weird
[12:01] <linxeh> Stormbind: what are you using to test java ?
[12:01] <Stormbind> yeah
[12:01] <Stormbind> www.websites4horsemen.com/rayremmen
[12:01] <Stormbind> the menu button is java
[12:01] <Stormbind> see if it works for you
[12:02] <linxeh> yeah, it comes up
[12:02] <Stormbind> weird
[12:02] <Stormbind> :-(
[12:02] <Stormbind> I am sad
[12:02] <Stormbind> should I remove the package and reinstall it?
[12:02] <Benelli> !xchat popus
[12:02] <linxeh> Stormbind: you could try enabling the backports repository and try sun-java6-jre
[12:02] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[12:02] <Benelli> hm..
[12:02] <atomiku> root@atomiku:/home/atomiku/Desktop/LULZ# ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1
[12:02] <atomiku> root@atomiku:/home/atomiku/Desktop/LULZ# iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[12:02] <atomiku> Is that enough? eth0 is the one going to the internal network, eth1 is the internet.
[12:02] <atomiku> doesnt seem to be working at the moment, the other computer on the network cant ping me (192.168.0.1)
[12:02] <atomiku> Okay, we can ping each other now
[12:02] <Stormbind> no clue
[12:03] <Skrot> Hi. Do I need to do something special with ubuntu/pam to make libapache2-mod-auth-pam work in ubuntu?
[12:04] <linux_kid>  Could someone help me fix GRUB from the Live CD, its not working with the command: "sudo grub" and then "setup (hd0,1)" ????
[12:04] <Spec> is this ubuntu or ubuntu-unregged?
[12:04] <distant_voice> Spec: thx, rebooting to see if it worked :)
[12:04] <kharloss> i need to secure sshd . what can i do ? i want first to allow just 2 IP`s doing remote conection. i have to edit /etc/hosts.allow  but how ?
[12:04] <linux_kid> Spec: the channels are joined: it dosent matter
[12:04] <Spec> ah
[12:05] <Spec> kharloss: /etc/ssh/sshd_config is a good place to start
[12:05] <ernz> Hello. I am using Beryl with Edgy and whenever I go fullscreen on a video playback I get choppy video. Can anyone help?
[12:05] <_snajper_> hkarloss: first change default port 22, disable root login and use iptables to allow only those two IP's
[12:05] <crdlb> ernz: xv or x11 output?
[12:06] <kharloss> Spec : i changed my default port , PermitRootLogin no   what`s next
[12:06] <ernz> crdlb - Dunno. I am using Totem
[12:06] <prodigel> hi there. I'm having trouble with sshfs. I've tried following more howto's but i get stuck on the sam issue:  fusermount /dev/fuse permission denied. I'm just trying to set it command line mode. no special stuff like fstab
[12:06] <crdlb> ernz, run gstreamer-properties
[12:06] <Spec> kharloss: ssh is pretty secure to begin with, you want to make it so only certain IPs can ssh in?
[12:06] <kharloss> maybe do you think i`m paranoic but recently i was hacked due to an week password
[12:06] <orbitize> Hello! I am using a USB cordless mouse on Edgy, but the movement speed of the cursor always resets to lowest. Anyone know whats wrong?
[12:06] <crdlb> ernz, if you are using ximagesink, that is expected since you are not using the hardware scaler
[12:06] <Spec> kharloss: make sure your password isn't weak :)
[12:07] <ernz> crdlb - Output is: "Autodetect" Whenever I run a video the CPU jumps right up.
[12:07] <Spec> you could use hosts.deny/hosts.allow to secure it further
[12:07] <Spec> kharloss: if you wanted to be really paranoid, you could run ssh inside a chroot jail
[12:07] <crdlb> ernz, set it to xvimagesink and click test
[12:08] <ST47> hey guys
[12:08] <ernz> crdlb - xvimagexink isn't there.
[12:08] <kharloss> i guess i`m not so advanced doing this Spec
[12:08] <SCanztz> HI. How do i access my windows files when im using Ubu?
[12:08] <dkbg> how can I remove entries from the startup commands for another session?
[12:08] <ernz> crdlb - SDL/x-no xv/x-x11/customer
[12:08] <q_> i can count on you, guys:)
[12:08] <atomiku> okay, so im having a little trouble setting up iptables/internet sharing. So far I have done: "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1" and "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE". No luck so far. eth1 = internet, eth0 = internal network. Any ideas?
[12:08] <atomiku> I remember last time I tried this it didnt work because the iptables masquerading entry wasnt in the right place in the "chain".
[12:09] <orbitize> Hello! I am using a USB cordless mouse on Edgy, but the movement speed of the pointer always resets to lowest. Anyone know whats wrong?
[12:09] <prodigel> scanztz: it depends on file system. if fat there is easier than ntfs
[12:09] <_snajper_> kharloss: something like this:
[12:09] <_snajper_> iptables -N SSH   iptables -A SSH -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT    iptables -A SSH -p tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT   iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 22 -j SSH
[12:09] <dkbg> I added some startup commands for an xgl session which broke it, so I'd like to remove the startup commands from the gnome session? how do I do so?
[12:09] <crdlb> ernz, try the third one
[12:09] <sgrove> I would like to change the destination where snaptic installs all its programs....can I do this with a symlink perhaps?
[12:09] <SCanztz> i have 4gb of fat32
[12:09] <distant_voice> Spec: didn't work :( now I need to remove all that
[12:09] <SCanztz> how do i use it?
[12:09] <kharloss> _snajper_ : i don`t have any internal network
[12:09] <crdlb> ernz, when you select it what does the Pipeline field say?
[12:09] <ernz> crdlb - I made a custom called xvimagesink. The "Test" button worked on that
[12:09] <distant_voice> Spec: what did that update thingy do?
[12:09] <prodigel> mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy targe-dir
[12:10] <prodigel> scanztz: mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy targe-dir
[12:10] <_snajper_> kharloss: then just put two lines containing IP's
[12:10] <ernz> crdlb - ................xvimagesink.......... :p
[12:10] <Spec> distant_voice: what didnt'w ork?
[12:10] <sgrove> is there a command to move everything in /usr/bin to /my/dir and create a symlink smoothly?
[12:10] <kharloss> right now after a clean install i`m of ubuntu server i`m protected . there is any default firewall ?
[12:10] <Spec> distant_voice: update-rc.d adds symbolic links to /etc/rc#.d/, where # is your runlevel
[12:10] <SCanztz> do i type the location i want to mount instead of 'dir'?
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | kharloss
[12:11] <pianoboy3333> Can I get some help with oowriter (Open Office writer)? Can font work use any font like ms office word art, and is it possible to use clip art from office.microsoft.com?
[12:11] <kharloss> _snajper_  in  /etc/hosts.allow
[12:11] <ubotu> kharloss: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:11] <ST47> I have a computer that I want to install ubuntu 6.10, hit install, and it suddenly freezes and the  display goes wacko. it has GeForce 6200, \
[12:11] <Spec> distant_voice: update-rc.d -f myscript remove   <-- that will remove everything except the script
[12:11] <Spec> distant_voice: what's the command you're trying to run?
[12:11] <SCanztz> do i type the location i want to mount instead of 'dir'?
[12:11] <prodigel> scanztz: target-dir is a directory whre you'll mount your partition
[12:11] <distant_voice> Spec: echo "/usr/local/games/joequake/joequake-gl.glx 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[12:11] <Spec> distant_voice: oi
[12:11] <ernst> how do i open port 3689 TCP
[12:12] <prodigel> scanztz: you create it with mkdir
[12:12] <Spec> distant_voice: vim /etc/init.d/myscript and add it there
[12:12] <distant_voice> Spec: i'd rather remove the script, not everything else...
[12:12] <SCanztz> what is mkdir
[12:12] <Spec> distant_voice: the redirect probably threw off the script
[12:12] <Spec> distant_voice: you want this to work, right?
[12:12] <_snajper_> SCantz: make dir, create the directory
[12:12] <kharloss> tonyyarusso : i know something about iptables ... bu i need to know if now after a clean install i`m protected some way
[12:12] <ernz> crdlb: Still choppy :(
[12:12] <distant_voice> Spec: I need my quake :)
[12:12] <Spec> distant_voice: edit the script and make sure the line is correct (/etc/init.d/myscript)
[12:12] <Spec> with a real editor
[12:12] <prodigel> scaztz: go to console and type man mkdir ;)
[12:13] <soundray> kharloss: you are protected by virtue of ubuntu not opening any network ports by default.
[12:13] <_snajper_> ernst: open how / where?
[12:13] <Spec> mkdir makes directories
[12:13] <kharloss> or i have to create one iptables based firewall
[12:13] <kharloss> ?
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> kharloss: You should be safe for most purposes, yeah.  There's some stuff on the wiki about further hardening if you're worried about it though.
[12:13] <Spec> !info firestarter
[12:13] <crdlb> ernz, are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine
[12:13] <Tonho> debian owns
[12:13] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[12:13] <Tonho> yeah
[12:13] <Tonho> debian owns
[12:13] <Tonho> debian owns
[12:13] <Tonho> debian owns
[12:13] <Tonho> debian owns
[12:13] <Tonho> debian owns
[12:13] <SCanztz> dogpigeoncow@Glenn-Laptop:~$ mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy targe-dir
[12:13] <SCanztz> mount: only root can do that
[12:13] <SCanztz> dogpigeoncow@Glenn-Laptop:~$ mkdir
[12:13] <SCanztz> mkdir: missing operand
[12:13] <Spec> Tonho: ....
[12:13] <distant_voice> Spec: what do I have to edit in the script? It is: simply the command I showed you
[12:13] <SCanztz> WHATS THAT MEAN
[12:13] <ernz> crdlb: Unknown
[12:13] <kharloss> Spec i don`t use any grafical interface
[12:14] <SCanztz> how do i fix that
[12:14] <Spec> distant_voice: it is?
[12:14] <kharloss> just server
[12:14] <_snajper_> SCantz: put "sudo" before mount
[12:14] <ernst> _snajper_ in order to share the music from rhythmbox from one ubu sys to the other, i need to make sure i open 3689 TCP on the source system
[12:14] <atomiku> okay, so im having a little trouble setting up iptables/internet sharing. So far I have done: "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1" and "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE". No luck so far. eth1 = internet, eth0 = internal network. Any ideas?
[12:14] <Sunrose> SCanztz: you need to tell it wtf dir to make.
[12:14] <atomiku> I remember last time I tried this it didnt work because the iptables masquerading entry wasnt in the right place in the "chain".
[12:14] <Spec> distant_voice: are you sure the quake didn't run?
[12:14] <Tonho> ubuntu == n00b?
[12:14] <Spec> distant_voice: wait, can you paste the full contents of the script
[12:14] <distant_voice> Spec: sound doesn't work, that's what it's for
[12:14] <ardchoille> /ignore Tonho *
[12:14] <crdlb> ernz, in totem, help->about
[12:14] <Spec> maybe quake is starting before teh sound server?
[12:14] <Sunrose> SCanztz: and also be root to mount.
[12:15] <distant_voice> Spec: sure: echo "/usr/local/games/joequake/joequake-gl.glx 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[12:15] <SCanztz> mount: mount point targe-dir does not exist
[12:15] <sun_> the system clock loses a few minutes every week is there a way to fix this without inet connection?
[12:15] <Spec> distant_voice: oh, you don't want the echo
[12:15] <cafuego_> atomiku: sysctl -w net.ipv4.config.ip_forward=1
[12:15] <sun_> how to eliminate pw on sudo?
[12:15] <ernz> SCanztz >> First error is because you didn't write "sudo" before the commands. Second error is because the mkdir mist be used like this>> sudo mkdir /media/somefolder
[12:15] <mr_hus> hey, i just installed php5 on my ubuntu box... and also the cli package... but when i try to connect to the database with mysql_connect(), it says that the function is not defined and stuff... is there some configuration to do so that the php commandline has access to mysql???
[12:15] <atomiku> cafuego: one second#
[12:15] <_snajper_> atomiku: i use those two lines - iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQUERADE
[12:15] <_snajper_> iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 0/0
[12:15] <Spec> distant_voice: or is echo what you need to do?
[12:15] <ernz> crdlb: Using xine-lib
[12:15] <atomiku> root@atomiku:/home/atomiku/Desktop/LULZ2# sysctl -w net.ipv4.config.ip_forward=1
[12:15] <atomiku> error: "net.ipv4.config.ip_forward" is an unknown key
[12:15] <q_> thanks for nothing :(
[12:16] <Gaz_> how do i delete the old packages that synaptic has downloaded?
[12:16] <crdlb> ernz, that explains why gstreamer-properties does'nt work
[12:16] <_snajper_> atomiku: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:16] <prodigel> scanztz: first create the directory, then find out your partition name then run mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy target-dir
[12:16] <distant_voice> Spec: hmm, I have no idea. but if I run that command as superuser from the console quake sound runs fine
[12:16] <ataq_> Hey does anybody know anything about NVCLOCK?
[12:16] <Spec> distant_voice: sorry, yeah, you're right
[12:16] <ernz> crdlb: Oh. How can I fix that then? :)
[12:16] <atomiku> _snajper_: done. lemme check if the other computer has net yet.
[12:16] <soundray> sun_: adjtimex can correct for systematic drift
[12:16] <distant_voice> Spec: how do I exit vim?
[12:16] <soundray> !adjtimex | sun_
[12:16] <ubotu> sun_: adjtimex: Utility to display or set the kernel time variables. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21-1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 172 kB
[12:16] <Spec> distant_voice: ok, do me a favour and pastebin: ls /etc/rc2.d/
[12:16] <Gaz_> !synaptic >Gaz_
[12:17] <Spec> distant_voice: press escape key, then do :q!  (this will quit w/o saving)
[12:17] <crdlb> ernz, look in the totem preferences
[12:17] <SCanztz> how do i create the directory
[12:17] <_snajper_> SCantz: sudo mkdir /mnt/fat
[12:17] <nexous> How do I remove Conky?
[12:17] <Spec> distant_voice: the only thing i can think of, is the sound server is starting after your script is being called, so if you could pastebin that directory listing i can confirm that
[12:17] <soundray> sun_: eliminating sudo passwords is not recommended, but there is a way to make sudo a bit friendlier:
[12:17] <ernz> crdlb: Nothing in preferences along the lines of xine/gstreamer
[12:17] <distant_voice> :Spec: this?: README      S10powernowd.early  S19cupsys  S20festival      S20nvidia-kernel  S25bluetooth  S90binfmt-support  S99rc.local
[12:17] <distant_voice> S01apport   S10sysklogd         S19hplip   S20firestarter   S20powernowd      S89anacron    S91apache2         S99rmnologin
[12:17] <distant_voice> S05vbesave  S11klogd            S20apmd    S20hotkey-setup  S20quakesound     S89atd        S98usplash         S99stop-readahead
[12:17] <distant_voice> S10acpid    S13gdm              S20dbus    S20makedev       S20rsync          S89cron       S99acpi-support
[12:18] <Spec> errrr
[12:18] <nexous> nevermind.
[12:18] <Spec> !pastebin
[12:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:18] <kharloss> i need a script like http://www.aczoom.com/cms/blockhosts   but not so complicate   any ideea ?
[12:18] <SCanztz> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/fat': Permission denied
[12:18] <distant_voice> Spec: sry
[12:18] <_snajper_> SCantz: did you put "sudo" command before mkdir?
[12:18] <sun_> soundray didnt get what you were saying?
[12:18] <soundray> sun_: 'sudo visudo' and replace tty_tickets with !tty_tickets. Your password now works across different terminal instances.
[12:18] <arkanjul> How do you register your name on freenode?
[12:18] <SCanztz> yes
[12:18] <SCanztz> no
[12:18] <soundray> !adjtimex > sun_
[12:19] <SCanztz> :)
[12:19] <ardchoille> !register | arkanjul
[12:19] <ubotu> arkanjul: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:19] <SCanztz> wat does sudo mean
[12:19] <soundray> sun_: have a look at the program that ubotu sent you a private message about
[12:19] <ernz> crdlb: Thanks for your help I will play with it a little more tomorrow. Cheers.
[12:19] <soundray> sun_: or check out 'apt-cache show adjtimex'
[12:19] <daviey> !sudo | SCanztz
[12:19] <ubotu> SCanztz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:19] <_snajper_> SCanztz: then just "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdaX /mnt/fat/" replace X with FAT partition
[12:19] <distant_voice> Spec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7857/
[12:19] <Spec> distant_voice: ok
[12:19] <Spec> distant_voice: do this
[12:20] <waffles> does anyone know how to run a program as root?
[12:20] <Spec> distant_voice: update-rc.d -f quakesound remove ; update-rc.d quakesound defaults 99
[12:20] <soundray> waffles: 'sudo program'
[12:20] <_snajper_> waffles: sudo <command>
[12:20] <ardchoille> waffles: If it's a gui app: gksudo appname
[12:20] <pianoboy3333> Can I get some help with oowriter (Open Office writer)? Can font work use any font like ms office word art, and is it possible to use clip art from office.microsoft.com?
[12:20] <SCanztz> so would i write : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy /mnt/fat
[12:21] <Spec> distant_voice: the S99 tells i, basically, to start it last
[12:21] <soundray> waffles: sudo will ask for your user password
[12:21] <sun_> does anyone know what happened to the ion titlebar and menu fonts in the edgy upgrade?
[12:21] <sun_> they arent working
[12:21] <SCanztz> so would i write : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy /mnt/fat
[12:21] <crdlb> pianoboy3333, OOo can use any ttf font, but no office clipart
[12:21] <soundray> sun_: were you able to use my answers to your other questions?
[12:21] <waffles> yeah, its running QTParted now...
[12:22] <pianoboy3333> crdlb: why can't it use the office clip art? it just can't read the format?
[12:22] <sun_> soundray yes i will check it when i get home to my isolated machine thanks very much
[12:22] <eugman> What do I need to do to be setup to do some very basic c programming?
[12:22] <distant_voice> Spec: done, I'll reboot now?
[12:22] <Spec> distant_voice: good luck :)
[12:22] <Spec> distant_voice: wait
[12:22] <distant_voice> Spec: I'm here
[12:22] <crdlb> pianoboy3333, it actually can read the format (.wmf) but there is no way to make it search the online gallery
[12:22] <atomiku> thanks for the internet sharing help guys, it only took me 3 commands and 15 minutes :D I remember last time it took me a full day LOL
[12:22] <Spec> distant_voice: let's confirm it's actually running, open up the script for editing (gedit or whatever)
[12:22] <pianoboy3333> crdlb: oh, oh, but if I download the files and import them, I'm good?
[12:23] <SCanztz> so would i write : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdxy /mnt/fat
[12:23] <_snajper_> atomiku: it works now?
[12:23] <SCanztz> it doesnt work
[12:23] <soundray> sun_: always best to reply to responses -- otherwise people may think you just ask questions for fun and ignore the answers
[12:23] <crdlb> pianoboy3333, last time I tried I could only save the gif previews w/o MSword
[12:23] <SCanztz> wat do i type then
[12:23] <mmaheu> ==> eugman Try a tutorial using gcc and a text editor of our choice
[12:23] <Spec> distant_voice: and at the bottom put: echo `whoami` yarrr >> /var/log/messages
[12:23] <atomiku> _snajper_: Yup :) That echo ipv4 thing finished the whole process off :D
[12:23] <_snajper_> SCanztz: replace hdxy with your partition
[12:23] <colmore> hey guys, let's say I wanted to do a dist-upgrade, and in doing so wanted to remove all packages but the base system.  words of wisdom?
[12:23] <Spec> distant_voice: those are backticks around whoami
[12:23] <atomiku> _snajper_: thanks dude
[12:23] <_snajper_> atomiku: great! :-)
[12:24] <Spec> distant_voice: that way we can check logs after you boot and see if that echo ran, if it does, that means the first one ran as well
[12:24] <_snajper_> SCanztz: how many hard drives have you got? what does df show?
[12:25] <distant_voice> Spec: done, yeah I get what we do. It's just that I don't know the commands. Thanks a lot, I'll reboot now.
[12:25] <Spec> distant_voice: good luck
[12:25] <SCanztz>  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fat ------- is that correct?
[12:25] <mmaheu> Some great tutorials on C and other Linux stuff http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/unix.html
[12:25] <Mach3> Need help sorting out a  2-disk dual boot problem.  I added a windows entry to menu.lst using the harddrive mapping method.  Then i set my BIOS's boot priority to boot from the linux drive.  Windows boots fine.  However, unless I unplug the windows drives, Ubuntu fails to boot.  I get an error along the lines of /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off.  Complete info here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7858/
[12:25] <soundray> colmore: what do you consider to be the "base system"? The gnome desktop and apps that ubuntu installs by default? Or the Section: base packages?
[12:26] <eugman> mmaheu, are you speking to me?
[12:26] <_snajper_> SCanztz: no, you must use your hard drive device and partition e.g. /dev/hda1
[12:26] <eugman> er, speaking
[12:26] <ST47> I have a computer that I want to install ubuntu 6.10, hit install, and it suddenly freezes and the  display goes wacko. it has GeForce 6200, \
[12:26] <_snajper_> SCanztz: use the "df" command to check which hard drives you have
[12:26] <colmore> soundray, default installation, sorry, my bad for not being more clear
[12:26] <Chamuco> how can i map extended keys on a keyboard? tried xev but there are 5 keys that won cause a scancode
[12:26] <mmaheu> eugman : yes
[12:27] <_snajper_> SCanztz: what does "df" display?
[12:27] <Slart> _snajper_: Disk Free space.. use df -h for human readable variants
[12:27] <arkanju1> how do you save a channel in GAIM - so you dont have to rejoin every time?
[12:27] <SCanztz> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[12:27] <eugman> mmaheu, thanks. Also it's very helpful if you include the username when addresing a person. My irc client marks that in a different color and tells me when it happens.
[12:27] <SCanztz> /dev/hda4             10499472   1980152   7985964  20% /
[12:27] <SCanztz> varrun                  249972        80    249892   1% /var/run
[12:27] <SCanztz> varlock                 249972         4    249968   1% /var/lock
[12:27] <SCanztz> udev                    249972       128    249844   1% /dev
[12:27] <SCanztz> devshm                  249972         0    249972   0% /dev/shm
[12:27] <SCanztz> lrm                     249972     18856    231116   8% /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile
[12:27] <eugman> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <SCanztz> nothing bout the other HDAs
[12:28] <Slart> _snajper_: sorry =).. I should not do irc when tired. .=)
[12:28] <mmaheu> eugman: Yeah sorry
[12:28] <_snajper_> SCanztz: now use "fdisk -l /dev/hda" to see a list of partitions
[12:28] <eugman> Scanztz, read ubotu's post about pastebin.
[12:28] <Spec> luck?
[12:28] <SCanztz> Cannot open /dev/hda
[12:28] <_snajper_> SCanztz: then "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[12:29] <distant_voice> Spec: sigh... didn't work
[12:29] <SCanztz> ok
[12:29] <distant_voice> Spec: where do I check the protocols?
[12:29] <Spec> distant_voice: is it in /var/log/messages? (the yarrr)
[12:29] <Spec> distant_voice: protocols?
[12:29] <distant_voice> Spec: the message I mean, mom
[12:30] <soundray> colmore: I don't have a full answer for you, but you can get a list of installed packages with 'dpkg --get-selections | grep install' and a list of dependencies of a package (e.g. ubuntu-desktop) with 'apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop'
[12:30] <_snajper_> SCanztz: now you will see the list of partitions and under System which Filesystem they contain
[12:30] <Spec> distant_voice: cat /var/log/messages | grep yarr
[12:30] <SCanztz> i am seeing them
[12:30] <SCanztz> which 1 do i use
[12:30] <tunganet> hey what do i type to check if my graphics card is installed properly?
[12:30] <Spec> distant_voice: does that say "root yarrr"?
[12:30] <_snajper_> SCanztz: which one do you need?
[12:30] <corevette> !ubotu corevette
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about corevette - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <SCanztz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7861/
[12:31] <corevette> !corevette ubotu
[12:31] <ernst> Argh, why doesn't music sharing work with rhytmbox?
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about corevette ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <distant_voice> Spec: nah
[12:31] <distant_voice> Spec: damn
[12:31] <leitao> is there a way to get .config from the default ubuntu 6.10 kernel?
[12:31] <Spec> distant_voice: so it's not showing up in messages?
[12:31] <SCanztz> i want to get stuff from windows
[12:31] <Spec> distant_voice: ohhh, crap, sorry
[12:31] <SCanztz> the NTFS?
[12:31] <corevette> how do you get ubotu to tell the person.....like...if i wanted ubotu to talk to corevette
[12:31] <Spec> distant_voice: sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/scriptname
[12:31] <corevette> !ubotu | corevette
[12:31] <_snajper_> SCanztz: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/fat/"
[12:31] <soundray> leitao: yes, it's in /boot/
[12:31] <corevette> !corevette|ATI
[12:31] <Spec> distant_voice: sorry, that command makes it executable, before it wasn't executable :-/
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about corevette - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Spec> distant_voice: at the top of the file, you should add: #!/bin/sh
[12:32] <corevette> !ATI|corevette
[12:32] <leitao> soundray : let me see.
[12:32] <_snajper_> SCanztz: "sudo ls /mnt/fat" will now list files on FAT partition
[12:32] <ernst> I can't find any documentation on sharing Rhythmbox music with the built in DAAP feature.... It wont work... ='(
[12:32] <tunganet> what do i type to see if my graphics card are installed correctly?
[12:32] <corevette> tunganet, fglrxinfo
[12:32] <Spec> tunganet: does it work?
[12:32] <tunganet> let me try
[12:32] <leitao> soundray : there is no /boot/.config* in my ubuntu
[12:32] <corevette> tunganet, what is the first line of the output
[12:32] <distant_voice> Spec: rebooting...
[12:33] <waffles> hey, how t he hell do I log in as root?
[12:33] <soundray> leitao: look again, and leave out the leading .
[12:33] <SCanztz> will it not work if im updating everything?
[12:33] <_snajper_> waffles: you can't
[12:33] <bruenig> !sudo
[12:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <leitao> soundray : it is there. :-) Thanks
[12:33] <colmore> thanks, soundray, i'll poke around, i've got backups and home is a partition of its own, and this isn't my main system, so i'm not tooo worried about doing anything stupid
[12:33] <waffles> well thats not useful
[12:33] <SCanztz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7862/
[12:33] <tunganet> bash: fglrxinfo: command not found
[12:33] <atomiku> What decent torrent client would you recommend? One with the speed of utorrent and uses hardly any system resources
[12:33] <crdlb> waffles, sudo passwd
[12:33] <sun_> i have a thumbdrive and an external drive , both usb, when i connect them in different orders they get different devicenames in /dev/sd{b,c,d,..}1 so i cant just say 'mount /media/usbdrive' i have to goto dmesg and figure it out and then 'sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdrive' for example; anyway to do this better?
[12:33] <corevette> tunganet, what maker do you have for video card
[12:33] <tunganet> nvidia
[12:33] <corevette> !nvidia|corevette
[12:34] <soundray> crdlb: do not recommend sudo passwd please (waffles)
[12:34] <tunganet> !nvidia|corevette
[12:34] <ubotu> corevette: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:34] <crdlb> soundray, if he wants to do it, why not?
[12:34] <soundray> waffles: to get a root shell, use 'sudo -i'
[12:34] <SCanztz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7862/
[12:34] <Flannel> crdlb: He most likely doesn't want to do it.  He just doesn't know the alternatives
[12:34] <_snajper_> atomiku: bittornado
[12:34] <soundray> crdlb: because his security is ultimately our security, too (thinking of botnets)
[12:34] <corevette> sorry tunganet, i have ATI...wish i could help
[12:34] <atomiku> _snajper_: k ill check it out
[12:35] <tunganet> hmm okay =\
[12:35] <soundray> waffles: to reliably get a reply here, drop the swearwords.
[12:35] <Bill> hey there
[12:35] <Bill> how do i play wmv formats?
[12:35] <soundray> !restricted | Bill
[12:36] <atomiku> lol, wmv.
[12:36] <ubotu> Bill: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:36] <SCanztz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7862/
[12:36] <atomiku> BIll: I recommend a WMV to MP3 converter :o
[12:36] <atomiku> no wait
[12:36] <atomiku> even better
[12:36] <atomiku> WMV to OGG
[12:36] <Spec> or just rm *.wmv
[12:36] <finalbeta_> I wouldn't recommend converting at all.
[12:36] <zhengfish> wmv means windows media ????
[12:36] <_snajper_> SCanztz: "sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/fat/"
[12:36] <atomiku> lol Spec
[12:36] <atomiku> good one
[12:36] <SpudDogg> Is there a rythmbox update by any chance?
[12:36] <Spec> distant_voice: luck?
[12:36] <soundray> atomiku: wmv is a video format, and ogg is a container format. Did you mean Theora?
[12:37] <atomiku> soundray: Oh yeah
[12:37] <amdmaster> Hello
[12:37] <distant_voice> Spec: still doesn't work, but cat /var/log/messages | grep yarr gives me : root yarrr
[12:37] <distant_voice> root yarrr (two times)
[12:37] <atomiku> yarr!
[12:37] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:37] <Spec> distant_voice: so the script is being run
[12:37] <amdmaster> Can someone answer a question....
[12:37] <tunganet> okay, my video card works, but its rendering is slow.. can anyone help?
[12:37] <soundray> !ask
[12:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:37] <Sunrose> no questions allowed amdmaster
[12:37] <amdmaster> thanks
[12:37] <corevette> !ask|amdmaster
[12:37] <ubotu> amdmaster: please see above
[12:37] <distant_voice> Spec: you sure that it runs as superuser?
[12:38] <Spec> distant_voice: yeap, the `whoami` proves it was root
[12:38] <distant_voice> Spec: ah nice
[12:38] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:38] <Spec> distant_voice: i don't know why it's not working :-/
[12:38] <skirk> tunganet, maybe u havent install video drivers?
[12:38] <Cosine> good evening guys
[12:38] <soundray> !hi
[12:38] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:38] <Cosine> I have a question about permissions on my ftp server
[12:38] <soundray> !ask
[12:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:39] <tunganet> i have
[12:39] <Cosine> ok, sorry
[12:39] <tunganet> it runs warcraft
[12:39] <Spec> Cosine: take the derivative of yourself
[12:39] <_snajper_> Cosine: which ftp server, what permissions
[12:39] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:39] <amdmaster> I tried to When I try to run the LIve CD of Ubuntu,  I get a Garbled display.   How doI go about fixing this.  Note: I have a GEforce 7800.  How do I correct this?
[12:39] <skirk> tunganet, rendering is slow on game or on desktop?
[12:39] <Bill> !ubotu restricted formats
[12:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <distant_voice> Spec: when I run the command from the console now it doesn't work anymore... is that to be expected?
[12:39] <waffles> so I'm trying to mount an NTFS hda1 and "mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt
[12:39] <waffles> "
[12:39] <waffles> yet I don't see it in my browser, whats up?
[12:39] <goetiaoccultus> hey is there flash software for linux to create flash templates?
[12:40] <Mumbles> how do i set what graphics card i want to use?
[12:40] <Spec> distant_voice: it doesn't work with sound now?
[12:40] <Cosine> I have Gproftpd setup with firestarter firewall..i can log into the server and see the default folder but when I try to go into it, it says permission denied...what do I need to do?
[12:40] <tunganet> ON GAME
[12:40] <tunganet> on game, sorry about caps
[12:40] <skirk> k
[12:40] <DemisM> ok say i installed blah-package i removed it but I would like to remove the others it also installed is there anyway I can do this?
[12:40] <tunganet> or maybe the resolution aint right..
[12:40] <distant_voice> Spec: exactly :(
[12:40] <_snajper_> Cosine: set the folder rights, depending on your username / group
[12:41] <soundray> !deborphan > DemisM, read the private msg from ubotu please
[12:41] <amdmaster> I seem to have the problem of Garbled display with other versions of linux
[12:41] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:41] <amdmaster> I think I am doing something simple
[12:41] <skirk> tunganet, or driver dont permission make good render, remember you havent Dx9.0c on Linux :)
[12:41] <goetiaoccultus> hey is there flash software for linux to create flash templates?
[12:41] <Cosine> click on the folder and set something there?
[12:41] <soundray> !repeat | goetiaoccultus
[12:41] <ubotu> goetiaoccultus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:41] <distant_voice> Spec: argh, this is a mess, lets remove the script from that startup-file and see if I can go back
[12:41] <Spec> distant_voice: i would suggest: update-rc.d -f remove myscript
[12:41] <_snajper_> Cosine: yes, what rights are currently there?
[12:41] <Spec> distant_voice: that'll remove the script from being run on startup
[12:41] <goetiaoccultus> i didnt repeat is quickly
[12:41] <Cosine> let me check, ok
[12:42] <tunganet> oh..
[12:42] <goetiaoccultus> ! respect | soundray
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about respect - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <tunganet> so i cant do anything about it right?
[12:45] <goetiaoccultus> figures someone update the bot
[12:45] <soundray> goetiaoccultus: under 3 minutes is too little.
[12:45] <skirk> tunganet, try to install to another reposity your video drivers
[12:45] <goetiaoccultus> u timed it?
[12:45] <distant_voice> Spec: is there a typo in here? update-rc.d -f remove myscript
[12:45] <corevette> !wtf
[12:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:45] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:45] <Cosine> permissions are  create and delete only on all
[12:45] <Spec> distant_voice: sudo update-rc.d -f remove myscript
[12:45] <Spec> distant_voice: where 'myscript' is your scripts name
[12:45] <soundray> goetiaoccultus: I have timestamps in my IRC client
[12:45] <tunganet> how do i do that =\
[12:45] <tunganet> i used envy and it installed for me
[12:45] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:45] <corevette> !translucency
[12:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <distant_voice> Spec: that gives me: sudo update-rc.d -f remove quakesound
[12:45] <distant_voice> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/remove: file does not exist
[12:45] <Cosine> _snajper_: permissions are create and delete only in that folder
[12:45] <goetiaoccultus> soundray: great im betting everyone has that ability
[12:45] <Spec> distant_voice: sorry, i'm dyslexic
[12:45] <amdmaster> Can someone---> PM! the answer on the garbled display I get on install and using the Live CD thanks..
[12:45] <Spec> distant_voice: update-rc.d -f quakesound remove
[12:45] <linuxnewbie756> someway i can make terminal startup fullscreen?
[12:45] <SCanztz> snajper: u there?
[12:45] <soundray> goetiaoccultus: what exactly did you want me to know about "respect"?
[12:45] <goetiaoccultus> soundray: just leave it alone
[12:45] <skirk> tunganet, d u have nVidia?
[12:45] <tunganet> yeah
[12:45] <distant_voice> Spec:  thx, I'll reboot a last time and see if I can return to the past
[12:45] <tunganet> nvidia 5200
[12:45] <tunganet> fx5200
[12:45] <Cosine> do I need to login as root and change the properties?
[12:45] <skirk> mmm
[12:45] <skirk> strange
[12:45] <skirk> look on trevino's blog
[12:45] <skirk> nVidia repo..
[12:45] <_snajper_> Cosine: yes, the ftp user needs read rights
[12:46] <Cosine> ok, Ill try that and get back
[12:46] <atarinox> is there a program which will show me available wireless networks, signal strength, and allow me to connect to them?
[12:46] <tunganet> trevino's blog..
[12:48] <Cosine> thanks buddy for you help
[12:48] <SCanztz> it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[12:48] <skirk> tunganet, search on google: "trevino blog"
[12:48] <SCanztz> and i typed dmesg and i got:  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev hda2.
[12:48] <tunganet> yeah i am on it
[12:48] <tunganet> reading =\
[12:48] <skirk> oky ^^
[12:48] <tunganet> what do i dl?
[12:48] <skirk> what?
[12:48] <tunganet> what do i download?
[12:48] <Ber> Hy, I have problems loading a module at startup
[12:48] <_snajper_> SCanztz: "sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hda2 /mnt/fat/"
[12:48] <skirk> u dont download...u should copy the line of nVidia repo and paste on your's repo
[12:48] <tonyyarusso> atarinox: network manager
[12:49] <adrigen> anyone: I installed Enlightenment windowmangager... then decided it looks like too much work. Now I want to as (sheepishly) for instruction to switch the gnome window manager back on. Can anyone help?
[12:49] <SCanztz> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[12:49] <SCanztz>        missing codepage or other error
[12:49] <SCanztz>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:49] <SCanztz>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:49] <SCanztz> sorry, forgot the pastbine
[12:49] <adrigen> k
[12:50] <soundray> adrigen: do you still get gdm (the login manager) when you restart X?
[12:53] <happytron> hi, is it possible to attach the stdin/stdout/stderr of a running process to the current shell, as if it had been executed from the current shell?
[12:53] <amdmaster> Anyone know any helpfull links to help me get ubuntu linux up and running.  I don't want to run back to windowsXp.
[12:53] <_snajper_> SCanztz: for some reason Linux does not recognize your FAT partition
[12:53] <atomiku> How do I install bittornado? sudo apt-get install bittornado installed it, but I see it no where
[12:53] <_snajper_> atomiku: now just use lynx to open a .torrent file
[12:53] <soundray> amdmaster: have you tried Safe Graphics mode?
[12:53] <SpudDogg> amdmaster:  You should start with www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:53] <amdmaster> yeah... get the garbled screen error
[12:53] <tunganet> meh, whatever i'll leave it at that
[12:53] <tunganet> =[
[12:53] <soundray> atomiku: 'dpkg -L bittornado' for a package listing
[12:53] <SCanztz> so wat must i do?
[12:53] <skirk> sbeng...
[12:53] <_snajper_> atomiku: like "lynx http://www.mininova.org/get/598250"
[12:53] <atomiku> soundray: ill try that
[12:53] <atomiku> _snajper_: oh
[12:53] <atomiku> THATS how you do it? lynx? lol k
[12:53] <bruenig> atomiku, it should be accessible in applications>network>bittornado
[12:53] <amdmaster> Am I missing a driver or something???
[12:53] <atomiku> ahh
[12:53] <atomiku> one minute then
[12:53] <Skrot> Can I enable non-system wide readable home directories in ubuntu (so that other users can't acces other users home dirs)?
[12:53] <amdmaster> Don't understand why linux can't be bundles with all the stuff
[12:53] <adrigen> soundray: as in does it ask me to log in? no... but it never did.
[12:53] <bruenig> amdmaster, copyright
[12:53] <soundray> adrigen: are you on ubuntu at all?
[12:53] <atomiku> so bittornado has no GUI then?
[12:53] <Ryanmt> hey guys, does anybody know of a page about the recovery mode of ubuntu?
[12:53] <Ryanmt> ive got a problem, only have ssh on a server, and the /etc/passwd file is stuffed
[12:53] <_snajper_> atomiku: bittornado-gui
[12:53] <distant_voice> Spec: If I'm annoying just tell me to go away, but I think I know what went wrong
[12:53] <Ryanmt> in recovery mode it saves, i reboot and its back to how it was before??
[12:53] <amdmaster> So do I need to install the Nvidia driver or something
[12:53] <SCanztz> snajper - wat must i do?
[12:53] <distant_voice> Spec: the script was flawed, it didn't work from the console either
[12:54] <amdmaster> Im guessing I would have to do this in the console
[12:54] <nemik> so my nautilus i guess sucks and crashes very often. i mean it is running but there is nothing on the desktop and none of the folders from menu can be opened
[12:54] <Jakob_the_Liar> any one know how to get xmms-alarm working?
[12:54] <linuxnewbie756> Does anyone know how to make terminal start fullscreen? You can click F11 to make it fullscreen, is there something I can add to the shortcut to make me "type" F11?
[12:54] <_snajper_> Ryanmt: what is the content of passwd file?
[12:54] <distant_voice> Spec: can you tell me the command I need to update that file, I'll jot them down and do it on my own from now on.
[12:54] <Spec> distant_voice: well, from console you'd have to run it like: sudo ./quakesound
[12:54] <atomiku> _snajper_: i tried apt-getting bottornado-gui but it told me something about it not being a candidate or something
[12:54] <skirk> tunganet,
[12:54] <skirk> # ATi & nVidia drivers Ubuntu packages
[12:54] <soundray> amdmaster: you can try the alternate CD -- it has a text mode installer
[12:54] <skirk> # GPG key: http://albertomilone.com/drivers/tseliot.asc
[12:54] <skirk> #deb http://albertomilone.com/drivers/unstable/edgy/32bit binary/
[12:54] <skirk> deb http://albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/32bit binary/
[12:54] <skirk> ## Latest Nvidia drivers in restricted modules packages
[12:54] <skirk> #deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm
[12:54] <skirk> #deb-src http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm
[12:54] <atomiku> !paste | skirk
[12:54] <ubotu> skirk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:54] <RichiH> skirk: /flushq
[12:54] <skirk> yes sorry
[12:55] <Jakob_the_Liar> i need an alarm application
[12:55] <atomiku> its alright :P
[12:55] <distant_voice> Spec: I changed the script to: #!/bin/sh
[12:55] <distant_voice> cd /usr/local/games/joequake/
[12:55] <distant_voice> echo "joequake-gl.glx 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[12:55] <distant_voice> cd
[12:55] <distant_voice> echo `whoami` yarrr >> /var/log/messages
[12:55] <RichiH> that will clear your send buffer on most clients
[12:55] <adrigen> soundray: I dont really know where to draw the line between a dist and a window manager...  I can get the ubuntu interface up by running "exec gnome-session"
[12:55] <foormea> hey
[12:55] <nemik> how can i restart nautilus completely or something? it keeps being opened but not doing anything?
[12:55] <Spec> distant_voice: oki
[12:59] <distant_voice> Spec:  that gonna work?
[12:59] <Amaranth> nemik: killall nautilus
[12:59] <Spec> distant_voice: update-rc.d quakesound defaults 99
[12:59] <Amaranth> it'll restart itself
[12:59] <Spec> distant_voice: i hope so :)
[12:59] <sonicdevo> anyone here had success installing drivers for an onboard Marvell LAN?
[12:59] <Spec> yes
[12:59] <nemik> amaranth: it just starts right back up and does nothing again; the only way i got it to work again was reboot and that sucks
[12:59] <adrigen> soundray: but while im runnning e, i cant see any of the files which are regularly on my desktop
[12:59] <amdmaster> ok will give that a shot.   Thanks for the assitance.. Hopefully I wont run back to windows yet.
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: yesa
[12:59] <_snajper_> sonicdevo: yes
[12:59] <Ryanmt> hey guys, does anybody know of a page about the recovery mode of ubuntu? Im trying to rewrite /etc/passwd but its overwriting it each time
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: some marvell cards die under heavy strain
[12:59] <SCanztz> snajper - wat must i do/?
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: be sure to update to the latest kernel
[12:59] <distant_voice> Spec: just in case, how do I remove again?
[12:59] <soundray> adrigen: how do you start X when you boot?
[12:59] <sonicdevo> did you guys use the sk98lin drivers?
[12:59] <Spec> distant_voice: update-rc.d -f quakesound remove
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: no
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: you should use the "other" one
[12:59] <adrigen> soundray: sorry but what is X?
[12:59] <soundray> Ryanmt: are you sure the recovery mode uses the same root partition
[12:59] <Spec> !marvell
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about marvell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <linuxnewbie756> How can I make terminal start fullscreen?
[12:59] <idn> > hi i was wondering if someone could help me point where im going wrong, im
[12:59] <idn>    trying to set up anjuta to start hacking on my school project, im
[12:59] <idn>    developing a gnome app. I need the dbus bindings so I include '#include
[12:59] <idn>    <dbus/dbus.h>' but i get a warning saying there is no such file or
[12:59] <idn>    directory. I have install the dbus-dev package so i cant seem to figure
[12:59] <idn>    out what is wrong
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: hmm, do you know the other modules name?
[12:59] <honkytonk> so... I did an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 and now now my network setup is hosed.  The interface comes up, I get a DHCP response - everything is great.  The first time I try to send traffic over the interface after that, I get "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready"
[12:59] <amdmaster> One more question.  Is Ubuntu 32 bit or 64 Bit??
[12:59] <distant_voice> Spec: this is like sitting on your lap, thanks a lot, I won't bother you anymore, good night! <3
[12:59] <soundray> adrigen: the GUI server that controls your graphics card -- the layer under the window manager.
[12:59] <amdmaster> the 6.10 version
[12:59] <SCanztz> snajper - wat do i do
[12:59] <Spec> distant_voice: don't worry about it, i'm at work :)
[12:59] <sonicdevo> i know what the chipset is called... are you talking about a software module?
[12:59] <atomiku> atomiku@atomiku:~/Desktop$ lynx
[12:59] <atomiku> bash: lynx: command not found
[12:59] <distant_voice> Spec: lol, bye
[12:59] <foormea> i'm trying to add a `tty` to the title of my gnome-terminal, but it doesn't add the thing in the title but before the prompt... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7865/
[12:59] <atomiku> _snajper_: I dont think bittornado has installed correctly.
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: yeah
[12:59] <soundray> adrigen: have you got the ubuntu-desktop package installed?
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: let me think...i think it's sky2 or something like that
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: yeah, try using the sky2 driver
[12:59] <sonicdevo> hrm....nope... i didn't know that there was another one... saw a post on ubuntu forums that said he compiled a custom kernel (2.6.19 i think) and that worked for him
[12:59] <bruenig> Atom-, sudo apt-get install lynx
[12:59] <Stormbind> hello everyone
[12:59] <atomiku> bruenig: lynx == bittornado?
[12:59] <bruenig> atomiku, ^
[12:59] <Stormbind> can someone please help me get java working on firefox?
[12:59] <bruenig> atomiku, no
[12:59] <linuxnewbie756> andmaster, you can download 32 or 64 bit.
[12:59] <Spec> sonicdevo: we're talking about a marvell yukon card?
[12:59] <atomiku> ..
[12:59] <jexdawg> how do i configure my extra mouse buttons in ubuntu? is there an app i need to download? currently, they do nothing. help?
[12:59] <atomiku> what is lynx
[12:59] <SCanztz> snajper: wat must i do?
[12:59] <bruenig> atomiku, lynx is a text browser
[12:59] <_snajper_> sonicdevo: i used sk98lin
[12:59] <sonicdevo> no, and onboard lan controller
[12:59] <atomiku> why do i want a text browser :O
[01:00] <Spec> the marvell yukon is onboard afaik
[01:00] <bruenig> atomiku, I don't know
[01:00] <atomiku> i want a good bittorrent client :o
[01:00] <linuxnewbie756> atomiku, linux is an alternative OS to windows or Mac OSX
[01:00] <Spec> it was on a laptop
[01:00] <bruenig> atomiku, utorrent through wine
[01:00] <_snajper_> sonicdevo: it is detected as  eth0: Marvell Yukon 88E8053 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[01:00] <adrigen> soundray: yes. I installed E by choosing the package in package-manager
[01:00] <dkbg> how can I write a script which I can add to the session startup, which first runs "beryl-manager --no-force-window-manager" and then "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa beryl &"
[01:00] <atomiku> bruenig: I tried, it worked poorlu
[01:00] <atomiku> *poorly
[01:00] <bruenig> linuxnewbie756, lynx not linux
[01:00] <sonicdevo> mine's the 88E8056
[01:00] <linuxnewbie756> atomiku, it's features include, most distros are free, it is virus free, spyware free,
[01:00] <atomiku> didnt really work
[01:00] <Spec> sonicdevo: i would try the sky2 driver :)
[01:00] <arkanjul> is it easier to get Beryl working on 6.06 6.10 or 7.04?
[01:00] <atomiku> linuxnewbie756: thanks, but no thanks.
[01:00] <atomiku> Anyway
[01:00] <linuxnewbie756> bruenig, oh, ok.
[01:01] <dkbg> anyone?
[01:01] <sonicdevo> Spec, does that require a kernel recompile?
[01:01] <bruenig> atomiku, it works awesome, but anyways, the second best I would say is ktorrent
[01:01] <atomiku> Ill just reask my question :) What decent bittorrent client can you recommend to me? one thats fast and doesnt use too much system resources.
[01:01] <rmathews_> was reconnected
[01:01] <soundray> adrigen: when you boot your computer, what's the first thing you get to type into? (It should normally be a login screen)
[01:01] <rmathews_> hi, I just installed edgy and firefox doesn't work.  running `/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin' gives an error "error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:01] <mooey> atomiku, gnome bittorrent
[01:01] <rmathews_> any suggestions on how to get it fixed?  I tried `apt-get remove firefox' and then `apt-get install firefox'
[01:05] <atomiku> (ill take a look at ktorrent thouhg, keep suggesting)
[01:05] <amdmaster> Will the 64Bit Version of Linux run on an Intel Base System"???
[01:05] <crdlb> atomiku, I like rtorrent
[01:05] <Spec> sonicdevo: let's check, do this: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "sky2"
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> Hi I am using Ubuntu 6.10 1.8ghz 256mb ram and when I open Openoffice.org it is rediculously slow.
[01:05] <atomiku> ill have a look at rtorrent as well
[01:05] <bruenig> atomiku, rtorrent is command line just a heads up
[01:05] <distant_voice> Spec: just so you know you rock: it works now! have my children, kthxbye :)
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> It needs to close gaim and beryl and it is still ridiculously slow.
[01:05] <crdlb> atomiku, it is command line only but it is extremely fast
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> What chould I do?
[01:05] <atomiku> hmm
[01:05] <bobby83> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my ibook g3 and sadly am having trouble burning the iso on my pc and having it boot up on my mac. Is there anyone that could help me with that?
[01:05] <Spec> distant_voice: great! :)
[01:05] <atomiku> Maybe it'll do
[01:05] <tenco> how can i find out which process access a hdd? i have a nat-box and the hdd always keeps spinning, though i set spindown for 2min
[01:05] <atomiku> Resume downloads?
[01:05] <bruenig> I just made a howto for the latest rtorrent
[01:05] <Ryanmt> How can i create a new user with root in recovery mode? my /etc/passwd file is damaged, i cant login
[01:05] <Spec> tenco: you can do
[01:05] <bruenig> since the repo has .5.3
[01:05] <Spec> tenco: lsof |grep -i hdd
[01:05] <atomiku> E: Couldn't find package rtorrent
[01:05] <soundray> Ryanmt: you haven't answered my question above
[01:05] <adrigen> soundray: I must have disabled the login screen a while ago becuase i never had that even when I did have the ubuntu-desck top showing. now I just see the enlightenment desktop
[01:05] <sonicdevo> hmm... didn't return a result or an error
[01:05] <Joe_CoT> hey, does anyone have experience with mergedfb? I can't get my second green to show anything but green
[01:05] <bruenig> !info rtorrent
[01:05] <_snajper_> sonicdevo: i used sk98lin, because it stopped responding with the other driver when there was a lot of network traffic
[01:05] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[01:05] <Spec> tenco: lsof shows all the programs accessing a file
[01:05] <bruenig> atomiku, enable your universe
[01:05] <Spec> sonicdevo: try find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ |grep -i sky2
[01:05] <crdlb> atomiku, you can set rtorrent up so that it will monitor a folder and automatically start downloading torrents placed in the folder
[01:05] <bobby83> Help-Anyone able to help me with a g3 ibook install?
[01:05] <crdlb> that's my favorite feature
[01:05] <atomiku> crdlb: nice
[01:05] <metres> Hi all I have an error mounting squashfs liveCD image..: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7866/ any idea ?
[01:05] <Spec> _snajper_: that happens, that problem went away for me when i upgraded kernel
[01:05] <sonicdevo> ok, it returned: /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sky2.ko
[01:05] <tenco> Spec: no. hdd = hard disk drive
[01:05] <bruenig> atomiku, sudo sed 's/# deb/deb/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[01:05] <soundray> adrigen: can you do a 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults', then close all applications and hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[01:05] <foormea> re
[01:05] <rmathews_> running `/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin' gives an error "error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so" ... how can I fix this?
[01:05] <bruenig> crdlb, so does utorrent
[01:05] <Spec> tenco: i know....and it's mounted where?
[01:05] <Jakob_the_Liar> does xmms-alarm work?
[01:05] <tenco> Spec: i dont know which file is being accessed
[01:05] <bruenig> rmathews_, you are supposed to run /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[01:05] <tenco> Spec: /
[01:05] <atomiku> bruenig: thankw
[01:05] <Spec> tenco: oh, well, if it's / that'll be useless ;)
[01:05] <Ryanmt> How can i create a new user with root in recovery mode? my /etc/passwd file is damaged, i cant login! :(
[01:05] <Joe_CoT> does anyone have experience with mergedfb? I can't get my second green to show anything but green
[01:05] <soundray> Ryanmt: are you ignoring me?
[01:05] <PiNE> hi. i am trying to get a dual monitor setup but i can't get the other monitor recognized.  here is my xorg.conf, please look at it and let me know where i have gone wrong. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7867/
[01:05] <rmathews_> bruenig: that doesn't run.  dies without any output.
[01:05] <bruenig> rmathews_, does it exist
[01:05] <sonicdevo> I've tried installing the sk98lin driver, but i've gotten stuck in the middle of it... i think it wants me to recompile the kernel, and i'm too much of a noob to do that
[01:05] <rmathews_> bruenig: yes
[01:05] <bob0908> is there a good introductory tutorial for using apt-get?
[01:05] <_snajper_> Ryanmt: echo "root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash" > /etc/passwd
[01:05] <rmathews_> bruenig: I've even "removed" and "installed" it
[01:05] <iamtheric> how do i install tremulous on a 64 bit system?
[01:05] <bruenig> rmathews_, that sounds like a problem
[01:05] <Spec> sonicdevo: did you try my second find command?
[01:05] <bob0908> I don't see anything on the ubuntu docs page that shows how to search for packages
[01:05] <sonicdevo> yea, it returned: /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sky2.ko
[01:05] <honkytonk> this channel is insane.
[01:05] <linuxnewbie756> Does anyone know how to make terminall start fullscreen?
[01:05] <_snajper_> sonicdevo: which kernel do you have?
[01:05] <soundray> !software > bob0908, please read the pm from ubotu
[01:05] <atomiku> honkytonk: no you
[01:05] <linuxnewbie756> or any program start fullscreen for that matter?
[01:06] <Spec> linuxnewbie756: i believe that depends on the window manager?
[01:06] <Jakob_the_Liar> i need an alarm program
[01:06] <bruenig> linuxnewbie756, ctrl + alt + f1
[01:06] <sonicdevo> _snapjer_: 2.6.17-11-generic
[01:06] <linuxnewbie756> gnome
[01:06] <atomiku> bruenig: what would happen if i pressed ctrl + alt + f1
[01:06] <Spec> linuxnewbie756: in example, you could do that in icewm by editing some sort of .properties file if i'm remembering correctly
[01:06] <atomiku> big explosion?
[01:06] <crdlb> linuxnewbie756, look up devilspie, it is an addon for metacity
[01:06] <bob0908> soundray: ty, but I don't see any pm
[01:06] <bruenig> it makes your hard drive needle escape your case
[01:07] <linuxnewbie756> I know how to make it fullscreen, but I just want my little icon on my toolbar to make it start fooscreen
[01:07] <soundray> !software | bob0908
[01:07] <ubotu> bob0908: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[01:07] <Cypress1> Uff.. many people here :P
[01:07] <atomiku> bruenig: uhhh... okay :)
[01:07] <_rmathews> bruenig: hi, can you repeat that.  was disconnected.
[01:07] <Cypress1> Someone here speaks spanish?
[01:07] <honkytonk> atomiku: it switches you to a different virtual terminal.
[01:07] <atomiku> platter based hard drives are so last 20 years ago okay
[01:07] <atomiku> i bet flash harddrives are super fast
[01:07] <honkytonk> atomiku: to get back to X, hit alt+f7
[01:07] <yamen> hello can anybody help me with Knetworkmanager ?
[01:07] <sonicdevo> Spec: it returned /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sky2.ko
[01:07] <atomiku> honkytonk: thanks
[01:07] <bruenig> _rmathews, that seems like a problem is all I said, I might try installing the firefox from firefox in /opt and symlinking it to work
[01:07] <Mach3> Need help sorting out a  2-disk dual boot problem.  I added a windows entry to menu.lst using the harddrive mapping method.  Then i set my BIOS's boot priority to boot from the linux drive.  Windows boots fine.  However, unless I unplug the windows drives, Ubuntu fails to boot.  I get an error along the lines of /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off.  Complete info here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7858/
[01:07] <_snajper_> Cypress1: try #ubuntu-es
[01:08] <Spec> sonicdevo: sudo modprobe sky2
[01:08] <Ryanmt> When i edit the file /etc/passwd in recovery mode why do the changes vanish when i reboot. Help!!!! :(
[01:08] <Cypress1> Thanks _snajper
[01:08] <Cypress1> :D
[01:08] <Cypress1> Cya people :D
[01:08] <Spec> sonicdevo:then do: sudo ifconfig and see if your card is listed there
[01:08] <bob0908> Is there a simple reason why this doesn't work?: apt-get install zip
[01:08] <soundray> linuxnewbie756: add the --full-screen option in the launcher
[01:08] <honkytonk> there is no way I can follow whats going on in here... this is really great, but also useless.
[01:08] <PiNE> could some one help me set up nvidia twinview?
[01:08] <bob0908> (I want the zip command)
[01:08] <bruenig> !info zip
[01:08] <adrigen> soundray: ok that time I got a ubuntu login...
[01:08] <ubotu> zip: Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 248 kB
[01:08] <Spec> bob0908: in which way doesn't it work?
[01:08] <bruenig> bob0908, you need to sudo apt-get install
[01:08] <soundray> tonyyarusso: are you here?
[01:08] <_snajper_> Ryanmt: you have to edit the correct file!
[01:08] <sonicdevo> Spec: it didn't return a result or error
[01:08] <[R] eaper> help. my screen doesn't support 800x600 mode :(
[01:09] <_snajper_> Ryanmt: not the /etc/ directory on the cd-rom but the mounted one
[01:09] <Vilhelms> When I run a game through cedega all the sounds of any other application stop working while the game is running, except for the sounds from the game. Is there a way to fix it? I noticed that if I try to click "Test" on gnome-sound-properties while the game is running I get the following error: http://paste.uni.cc/13357 Please help :(
[01:09] <bruenig> !fixres
[01:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:09] <bob0908> Spec: it says: Package zip is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:09] <Spec> sonicdevo: good
[01:09] <Ryanmt> how do i get to the mounted one?
[01:09] <TheManiacKY> I have two USB drives. If I plug 1 drive in I can use it. If I unmount the drive and then plug another drive in I can not use that drive until I reboot my computer. Is there any way I can tell ubuntu to rescan my computer for any usb drives that have been plugged in?
[01:09] <Spec> sonicdevo: if you want to check, type: dmesg | tail
[01:09] <bob0908> ... E: Package zip has no installation candidate
[01:09] <_rmathews> bruenig: what about libmozjs.so? any way to fix that? apt-cache doesnt' know what it is
[01:09] <bruenig> bob0908, edgy or dapper?
[01:09] <Spec> !info zip
[01:09] <soundray> adrigen: at the login screen, you should be able to select a standard gnome session, with metacity as the wm
[01:09] <ubotu> zip: Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 248 kB
[01:09] <bob0908> bruenig: I'm logged in as root
[01:09] <Spec> bob0908: check your sources
[01:09] <Spec> bob0908: apt-get update
[01:09] <lisapc> when running Gparted, does it matter if you create 3 partions on one HDD as 3 primary partitions?  Or does 2 have to be "extended partitions"?
[01:09] <adrigen> soundray: ok that time I got a ubuntu login...
[01:09] <bob0908> bruenig: dapper
[01:10] <adrigen> soundray: ubuntu uses metacity?
[01:10] <Spec> lisapc: you can have up to 4 primary partitions
[01:10] <bruenig> _rmathews, it is in /usr/lib/firefox/libmozjs.so
[01:10] <_snajper_> lisapc: you can have max 4 primary partitions per drive
[01:10] <soundray> adrigen: yes
[01:10] <bruenig> !info zip dapper
[01:10] <ubotu> zip: Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.31-3 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 240 kB
[01:10] <Ryanmt> _snajper_ how do i mount the correct thing?
[01:10] <linuxnewbie756> soundray, so that should look like "gnome-terminal --full-screen"
[01:10] <bruenig> bob0908, do you have the main repository enabled
[01:10] <soundray> linuxnewbie756: yes
[01:10] <lisapc> Spec whats the diff between making them all primary partions, and making 2 of them extended partitions?
[01:10] <_snajper_> Ryanmt: use "df", it is probably already mounted
[01:10] <TheManiacKY> HELP PLEASE : I have two USB drives. If I plug 1 drive in I can use it. If I unmount the drive and then plug another drive in I can not use that drive until I reboot my computer. Is there any way I can tell ubuntu to rescan my computer for any usb drives that have been plugged in?
[01:11] <Spec> lisapc: not too much, if you want more than four partitions you *have* to use an extended partition
[01:11] <Ryanmt> _snajper_ can i pm you my df output
[01:11] <lisapc> in other words, whats the diff between primary and extended partitions?
[01:11] <bruenig> lisapc, you can have 4 primary partitions on a drive, an extended partition is a primary partition that allows you to have little subpartitions therefore allowing you to have over 4 partitions on the drive
[01:11] <_rmathews> bruenig: yeah, even I have it all right.  not sure what the problem is then.
[01:11] <linuxnewbie756> soundray, it didn't work so well, it opened with the title bar behind my top toolbar, and it wasn't fullscreen, can you try it and see if it works"
[01:11] <lisapc> Spec ok thanks
[01:11] <sonicdevo> Spec: it didn't find my card
[01:11] <Spec> lisapc: if you only plan on having three partitions, might as well make them all primary
[01:11] <soundray> linuxnewbie756: I have
[01:11] <Spec> sonicdevo: dmesg told you that? :-/
[01:11] <lisapc> bruenig ah got it. thanks
[01:11] <linuxnewbie756> soundray, ?
[01:11] <Spec> sonicdevo: or: sudo ifconfig -a
[01:11] <sonicdevo> Spec: sudo ifconfig didn't list it
[01:11] <lisapc> Spec ok.  ill make 3 primary partitions from my 120gig HD. ty
[01:11] <Spec> sonicdevo: add a -a
[01:12] <_snajper_> lisapc: extended partitions can contain many logical drives, primary partition contains one
[01:12] <bob0908> bruenig: I'm not sure whether I have the main repository enabled
[01:13] <bob0908> bruenig: I'm pretty new to apt-get
[01:13] <bruenig> bob0908, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <bruenig> !pastebin
[01:13] <lisapc> Spec I have MS Vista installed on the first partition.  I now have 2 free primary partitions.  Can I install Ubuntu on my second partition now?  And will Ubuntu create a swap file partitions on that second partition?  or will Ubuntu have to use my 3rg Primary partition as swap patition?
[01:13] <sonicdevo> Spec: hrm, unsure now, it lists 3 interfaces: eth0, lo, and sit0 .... I'm using a USB Lan adapter on the machine atm
[01:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:13] <soundray> TheManiacKY: normally, ubuntu should mount the second drive just like it did the first. Can you run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and see if any errors are logged while you plug the second drive in? Put them on the pastebin if they don't make sense.
[01:13] <lisapc> _snajper_ ok ty
[01:13] <linuxnewbie756> soundray, does it work on yours?
[01:13] <_snajper_> lisapc: swap partition is a separate partition
[01:13] <sonicdevo> Spec: so I believe that eth0 is the USB adapter
[01:13] <Ryanmt> _snajper_ i have tmpfs, varrun,varlock,udev,devshm. Are any of them the right one?
[01:13] <soundray> linuxnewbie756: yes
[01:13] <Spec> sonicdevo: yeah, that's my guess too
[01:13] <linuxnewbie756> soundray, any clue why it wouldn't work on mine?
[01:13] <TheManiacKY> soundray: Pastebin?
[01:13] <bob0908> bruenig: I don't have that file
[01:13] <Spec> sonicdevo: can you pastebin: dmesg | tail
[01:13] <adrigen> soundray: wow, Cheers!
[01:14] <bob0908> bruenig: I have an /etc/apt/sources.list.d dir
[01:14] <lisapc> _snajper_ so if I installed Ubuntu on my 2nd partition now, will Ubuntu create a forth partition for swap?
[01:14] <bob0908> (with nothing in it)
[01:14] <adrigen> soundray: gnome uses metacity?
[01:14] <soundray> linuxnewbie756: no
[01:14] <Spec> lisapc: ummm, swap needs it's own partition
[01:14] <soccer5555> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChocbG_TTI
[01:14] <sonicdevo> pastebin?
[01:14] <soccer5555> holy crap
[01:14] <bruenig> bob0908, well there's your problem, give me a sec, I will get one
[01:14] <ardchoille> adrigen: Yes, gnome uses Metacity as its default window manager.
[01:14] <Spec> lisapc: i would recommend making a fourth partition for swap, ~512 MB
[01:14] <linuxnewbie756> adrigen, is that it? I am using gnome, so it shouldn't work?
[01:14] <soundray> !pastebin | TheManiacKY
[01:14] <ubotu> TheManiacKY: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:14] <sonicdevo> Spec: pastebin?
[01:14] <adrigen> soundray: thanks you so much
[01:14] <Spec> !pastebin | sonicdevo
[01:14] <ubotu> sonicdevo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:14] <soundray> adrigen: pleasure
[01:14] <lisapc> Spec its too late now.  I cant make another partition as I reinstalled Vista on first and it took me 2 hours to set up
[01:15] <lisapc> Spec so I cannot install Ubuntu now?
[01:15] <andre> has anyone video captured ubucon?
[01:15] <Spec> lisapc: you can use ubuntu's installer to repartition your 2nd partition
[01:15] <a5benwillis> Silly question: How can I copy a folder and all subfiles to another folder?
[01:15] <tunganet> hi, what is the best program for listening to mp3?
[01:15] <lisapc> Spec yes, but wont that destroy my first partition and MS wdinwos?
[01:15] <_snajper_> huh, I'm chatting here and stocks are going down
[01:15] <Spec> a5benwillis: cp -R folder /some/other/folder
[01:15] <soundray> !cli | a5benwillis
[01:15] <ubotu> a5benwillis: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:15] <kharloss> how secure is   http://www.chkrootkit.org/   ?
[01:15] <Spec> lisapc: nope, it shouldn't unless you tell it to
[01:15] <plex0r> is there a problem with ubuntu 6.10 and amd dual cores sudo keeps core dumping...?
[01:16] <ardchoille> kharloss: chkrootkit is in the repos
[01:16] <_snajper_> kharloss: it works
[01:16] <sonicdevo> !pastebin | sonicdevo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7869/
[01:16] <ubotu> sonicdevo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7869/: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:16] <lisapc> Spec I had Vista oinstalled on first partition and then used gparted livecd to create a 3rd partiton from 2nd partition, and then Vista wouldnt boot anymore
[01:16] <TheManiacKY> soundray: Well. The tail appears to be mounting the drive as sdh instead of the previously used sdb. Thats what the tail showed me. So thats why I've not been able to find it.  Is there any way I can force it to use sdb every time?
[01:16] <bruenig> bob0908, ok do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list (or just gedit /etc/apt/sources.list if you are logged in as root) and copy and paste this in there and save it. Then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install zip       http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7868/
[01:16] <lisapc> Spec any ideas why?
[01:16] <sonicdevo> !pastebin | sonicdevo
[01:16] <Spec> lisapc: resizing ntfs breaks often
[01:16] <Spec> lisapc: if you're not resizing the ntfs partition, it shouldn't break
[01:17] <lisapc> Spec yeah :(  so I cant install Ubuntu without the rist of breaking first partition :(
[01:17] <_snajper_> did anyone dist-upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 and had software raid?
[01:17] <bruenig> you can now resize windows within windows without partition magic stuff
[01:17] <soundray> TheManiacKY: you shouldn't, and it shouldn't matter what the device name is. Find out what the mount point is with 'mount | grep sdh'. Your files will be under the mountpoint.
[01:17] <detuneyourradio> does anyone know what layout to use to change to dvorak on a generic keyboard?
[01:17] <bob0908> bruenig: thanks a lot man
[01:17] <sonicdevo> Spec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7869/
[01:18] <lisapc> is there a chance of installing Ubuntu on my 2nd partition without it breaking my first partition which contains my OS?
[01:18] <soundray> _snajper_: ask in
[01:18] <soundray> _snajper_: ask in #ubuntu+1 (oops)
[01:18] <bruenig> lisapc, so long as you don't resize, the first partition is untouched and fine
[01:18] <_snajper_> soundray: thanks!
[01:18] <bruenig> resizing is risky especially with vista
[01:18] <Ryanmt> How do mount a linux disk?
[01:18] <Ryanmt> to read write
[01:18] <Ryanmt> mount /dev/hda3?
[01:19] <bruenig> Ryanmt, sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mount/point
[01:19] <plex0r> why does sudo keep going corrupt?
[01:19] <lisapc> bruenig yas, makes sense.  but when I used Gparted liveCD I didnt touch the first partition, but it still broke it somehow and Vista wouldnt load anymore. Any ideas what happened?
[01:19] <bruenig> plex0r, what?
[01:19] <lisapc> bruenig but dont i need to resize to create a ubuntu swap partition?
[01:19] <bruenig> lisapc, I don't know, I haven't used windows in so long. I am only repeating the resizing stuff that I see other says
[01:20] <plex0r> brueing: everytime i update my system the installer freezes, i have to restart, and then do something to sudo because it core dump and it corrupt, this has happened about 5 times, all on different install discs too
[01:20] <jron> trying to install 6.10 on my laptop, I've never had this happen before, after the grub bootup, I select install ubuntu, the loading bar pops up then im kicked back to the term and it says: /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:20] <jron> i've seen this all over google but yet to find an answer as to what is going on.
[01:20] <sonicdevo> lisapc: I've resized with ubuntu and xp several times and the only problem I had was breaking the NT bootloader
[01:20] <lisapc> jron what brand?
[01:21] <jron> lisapc: hp
[01:21] <soundray> bruenig: Ryanmt appears to be in write-only mode -- immune to any suggestions
[01:21] <lisapc> sonicdevo dont i need to resize to create a ubuntu swap partition?
[01:21] <sonicdevo> lisapc: depends on how much free space you've got
[01:21] <imbecile> any suggestions on linux ipod software?
[01:22] <sonicdevo> lisapc: how big is your hdd, how much is used by windows?
[01:22] <Steil> Hello, the CPU frequency scaling isn't working correctly on my computer....even when its under load it's still staying at 50% clock speed. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:22] <lisapc> sonicdevo Vista sits on first part.  the second part is 20gig free and third is 40gig Free
[01:22] <ardchoille> imbecile: I know there's gtkpod, never used it but I know others have and are happy with it.
[01:22] <lisapc> sonicdevo whats that got to do with anything?
[01:22] <TheDebugger> imbecile: gtkpod or amarok
[01:22] <imbecile> thanks guys
[01:22] <TheDebugger> imbecile: Mon imbecile ;)
[01:23] <TheDebugger> imbecile: Tu es imbecile? :P
[01:23] <bob0908> bob0908: worked like a charm, thanks (the apt-get update, and install)
[01:23] <imbecile> hehe everyone thinks im french ;P
[01:23] <soundray> Steil: what do you do to put it under load, and how do you check the frequencies?
[01:23] <lisapc> sonicdevo i dont think you understand.
[01:23] <sonicdevo> lisapc: trying to figure out if you'll need to resize, and how much free space you've got to work with
[01:23] <sonicdevo> lisapc: you may be right
[01:23] <imbecile> TheDebugger,  tu es francais?
[01:23] <TheDebugger> imbecile: Non, Qubcois ;)
[01:23] <SpudDogg> Soy Americano
[01:24] <atarinox> hi can somebody help me...im trying to install Konqueror and i get a from synaptic that some of the packages can't be retrieved from the server....is there an alternative?
[01:24] <imbecile> TheDebugger,  hehe i only speak english really... yes i am an imbecile
[01:24] <Steil> soundray: to check the frequencies, i do cat /proc/cpuinfo, or i use the panel applet
[01:24] <jrib> atarinox: pastebin the full error output, your command, and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <Steil> and to put the system under load, i try video encoding or other cpu intensive work
[01:24] <lisapc> sonicdevo let me tell yuou again!  i have Vista on first pRTITION.  2nd and 3rd are free.  2nd is 20gig and 3rd is 40gig.  Can I install Ubuntu on 2nd partition without Ubuntu breaking my first partition?
[01:25] <plex0r> lisapc: yes
[01:25] <SpudDogg> lisapc, yes you can.  ubuntu/grub seem to be really "nice" to other OS installations.  just be sure to install ubuntu last
[01:25] <nexous> Hi, what's the program where, when I right click on my ubuntu desktop, my applications, place, system menu shows as a menu?
[01:25] <lisapc> plex0r but wont ubuntu installer want to create a 4th partition for ubuntu swap?
[01:25] <plex0r> resize the second or 3rd partitioon to 256 mb
[01:25] <plex0r> make a 4th
[01:26] <plex0r> or merge 2nd and 3rd
[01:26] <lisapc> SpudDogg yes but it needs to create another partition for swap, and this broke my first partition last time
[01:26] <plex0r> i dont know id do it a weird pay
[01:26] <bob0908> bruenig: worked like a charm, thanks (the apt-get update, and install)
[01:26] <bruenig> hooray
[01:26] <bob0908> bruenig: that seems like a hole in the docs
[01:26] <imbecile> anyone got osx running on pc? im thinking of trple booting this machine and i was wondering which one to install first
[01:26] <Spec> sonicdevo: sudo modprobe sky2
[01:26] <Spec> sonicdevo: i don't think it loaded
[01:26] <soundray> Steil: does it run at full frequency after you do a 'sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop'?
[01:26] <bob0908> bruenig: can I update the docs somehow?
[01:26] <Spec> sonicdevo: lsmod |grep -i sky2 to check
[01:26] <bruenig> bob0908, no there should be a sources.list
[01:26] <SpudDogg> lisapc, so just do not change the sizes or anything on the first partition.  use one of the others to create a swap from it.  you will now have like 4 partitions
[01:26] <bruenig> bob0908, somehow yours is not there, but there is one there by default
[01:26] <plex0r> what i would do is merge the 20 and 40 to make one big 60 then resize that to 59.6gb use the 400mb as swap and then install ubuntu ext3 on the 59.6
[01:26] <bob0908> bruenig: ah
[01:26] <nexous> Hi, what's the program where, when I right click on my ubuntu desktop, my applications, place, system menu shows as a menu?
[01:26] <SpudDogg> lisapc, i would make the swap at least 2GB
[01:27] <plex0r> you dont need to touch the first partition at all
[01:27] <bob0908> bruenig: I'm starting with a new VPS install
[01:27] <lisapc> SpudDogg if I do that, wont it rezie the first partition as well?  i only have 1 HDD
[01:27] <sonicdevo> Spec: outputs "sky2                   50436  0 "
[01:27] <bob0908> bruenig: I guess the image my hosting company has has it removed :(
[01:27] <lisapc> SpudDogg why 2 gig?> I have 1 gig RAM
[01:27] <plex0r> lisapc no it wont touch your first partition if you tell it not too
[01:27] <Spec> sonicdevo: h mm, so it is loaded
[01:27] <Steil> soundray: yep, but if powernowd is running even if the cpu is at ~100% load it wont scale the cpu up
[01:28] <jexdawg> i just edited my xorg.conf and configured my mouse to act as a 5-button mouse which it, obviously, is. it works great... in firefox. how can i make it work in nautilus? any help is welcome.
[01:28] <lisapc> plex0r so when I install Ubuntu, i ask it to install on 2nd partition and it will create another partition from the 2nd partition and leace first and third partition alone?
[01:28] <Mach3> I'm a linux noob who is trying to install xchat..  i get some sort of compiler error that i have no idea how to resolve: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7870/
[01:28] <sonicdevo> lisapc: if your 2nd and 3rd partitions are empty, why don't you delete them, and then tell the installer to just use the free space
[01:28] <bob0908> bruenig: that makes me wonder what else is missing
[01:28] <bob0908> bruenig: kind of scary
[01:28] <SpudDogg> lisapc, when the gparted program comes up and asks about partitions, select "Edit partition table manually" then create another partition from one of the existing partions, but not the one with vista on it.  i read somewhere that your swap should be at least twice your ram
[01:28] <plex0r> no lisapc it will not make a swap for you, you have to do that
[01:28] <pianoboy3333> How can I open a ms clip art file, and extract the clip art from it, an mpf file?
[01:28] <helai> when I have installed ubuntu on hdb8,and backup the whole partition by using a4l(the backup software) to the hdb8,after that i found the backup is too larger as 8g ,so delete it and empty it from trashmbut try to check the free spaces on hdb8,found it is no change,see below message
[01:28] <helai> lenovo@lenovo-desktop:~$ df -Th
[01:28] <helai> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:28] <helai> /dev/hdb8     ext3    9.9G  8.9G  586M  94% /
[01:28] <helai> varrun       tmpfs    506M   76K  506M   1% /var/run
[01:28] <lisapc> sonicdevo because I want a partition to store IMAGE files
[01:28] <helai> varlock      tmpfs    506M     0  506M   0% /var/lock
[01:28] <helai> procbususb   usbfs     10M  148K  9.9M   2% /proc/bus/usb
[01:28] <helai> udev         tmpfs     10M  148K  9.9M   2% /dev
[01:28] <helai> devshm       tmpfs    506M     0  506M   0% /dev/shm
[01:28] <helai> lrm          tmpfs    506M  8.0M  498M   2% /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile
[01:29] <helai> /dev/hdb7     ext3    7.4G  170M  6.8G   3% /home
[01:29] <helai> /dev/hda9     ntfs     89G   68G   22G  77% /media/hda9
[01:29] <helai> /dev/hdb1     ntfs    9.4G  7.0G  2.4G  76% /media/hdb5
[01:29] <plex0r> wow, stop?
[01:29] <con-man> !pastebin | helai
[01:29] <ubotu> helai: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:29] <lisapc> plex0r pls listen this time :)  where exactly will it create a swap part?  on my 2nd partion or the third?
[01:29] <orangefly> what would cause a dvd rom not to boot....bios is set....not the disk....tried a few and even a windows disk....
[01:29] <plex0r> swap will be a second partition
[01:29] <atarinox> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/375101
[01:29] <SpudDogg> lisapc, it will create another separate partition
[01:29] <plex0r> you can take it out the second or third
[01:29] <plex0r> or even ytour first
[01:29] <plex0r> just resize one of them
[01:29] <am_rods> hi all
[01:29] <lisapc> ok ill try
[01:29] <neutrino15> hey, could anybody help me with installing grub (and ubuntu) on an external firewire HD on an intel mac?
[01:29] <plex0r> then you will have unallocated space, which can be swap
[01:29] <jexdawg> how do i configure my 5-button mouse to work in nautilus? it only works in firefox after tweaking xorg.conf but not in nautilus or, seemingly any other program. help?
[01:30] <soundray> Steil: I suggest you install laptop-mode-tools (even if it isn't a laptop). You will then have additional control over the scaling governors via /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf.
[01:30] <bob0908> do you guys have any recomendations for getting a husted ubuntu VPS account?
[01:30] <Mach3> I'm a linux noob who is trying to install xchat..  i get some sort of compiler error that i have no idea how to resolve: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7870/
[01:30] <am_rods> how do i halt a program that is not responding?
[01:30] <plex0r> ive never heard of ubuntu on a VPS just debian
[01:30] <bob0908> (meaning do you know of a decent VPS hosting company?)
[01:30] <plex0r> or other distros oc
[01:30] <Dachra> g'day all
[01:30] <plex0r> i'd never use ubuntu on a VPS personally
[01:30] <neutrino15> hey, could anybody help me with installing grub (and ubuntu) on an external firewire HD on an intel mac?
[01:30] <SpudDogg> Mach3, why not just install xchat via add/remove?
[01:30] <soundray> am_rods: does it run in a window?
[01:31] <am_rods> yeah
[01:31] <brombomb> If Im using pam_cracklib to make sure a pword is at least 8 chars, do I just set minlen=8?
[01:31] <bob0908> plex0r: I'm currently with tektonic.net, with ubuntu on a vps
[01:31] <SpudDogg> Mach3, or just run sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:31] <Mach3> SpudDogg: because im a linux noob, and i was just folllowing the directions in the INSTALL readme
[01:31] <am_rods> well, it does not show up on the taskbar
[01:31] <lisapc> I have Vista on first partition. and 2nd and third partion is free.  Would it better to use the last third partition to install Ubuntu on?
[01:31] <plex0r> bob0908: cool, i have a vps with gentoo, and debian, and solaris
[01:31] <pianoboy3333> How can I open a ms clip art file, and extract the clip art from it, an mpf file? Is there a program for linux that can open an mpf file?
[01:31] <sonicdevo> Spec: should i try to get a newer kernel, and see if support is built in?
[01:31] <Dachra> could anyone point me in the right direction for help with beryl/edgy/aiglx? 'taint a'workin worth a damn.....
[01:31] <bob0908> plex0r: I believe unixshell.com offers ubuntu also, but they're not accepting customers
[01:31] <jrib> atarinox: your sources.list paste is truncated.  But try this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install konqueror
[01:31] <soundray> am_rods: click the X button in the title bar. Ubuntu should notice if it doesn't quit and offer you to force-quit it
[01:32] <plex0r> bob0908: i wasnt the one that wanted one ;)
[01:32] <SpudDogg> Mach3, no no.  ubuntu has a package for installing most things, including xchat.  just get to a command line and type 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[01:32] <soundray> am_rods: if that doesn't work, add the Force Quit panel applet and use that.
[01:32] <PowerAnne> when i try to install Ubuntu i get this error" Failed to start X server (your graphical interface) ....   im running an ATI X800 GTO , wat can i do?
[01:32] <soundray> !beryl > Dachra, please read the pm from ubotu
[01:32] <NkZ> Greetings guys
[01:32] <Dachra> oh! just noticed ty
[01:32] <am_rods> thank
[01:32] <plex0r> anyways my VPS's are in europe, for certain reasons, i dont want them in the USA
[01:32] <neutrino15> hey, could anybody help me with installing grub (and ubuntu) on an external firewire HD on an intel mac?
[01:33] <SpudDogg> !ati
[01:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:33] <Mach3> SpudDogg: ok thanks.  but, shouldnt i be concerned that i got the error     " configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[01:33] <jexdawg> is there any way for me to configure my 5 button mouse to work in nautilus? it currently only works in firefox
[01:33] <bob0908> plex0r: I know, that was me - I was responding to your saying you hadn't heard of ubuntu in a vps:)
[01:33] <NkZ> Issue: K3B Is being weird. Won't let me burn DVDs allways says "Insert Blank DVD on device"
[01:33] <plex0r> oh okay
[01:33] <pjero> hi all ! =) need a ubuntu wiz for sound probs
[01:33] <TheManiacKY> D on an intel mac?
[01:33] <Mach3> SpudDogg: say i wanted to do it that way.  any idea why its not working?
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[01:33] <plex0r> i recently just got a server in the US shut down
[01:33] <plex0r> it was bs
[01:33] <soundray> neutrino15: you have to say what the problem is
[01:34] <am_rods> is there a command to do that? or something like ctrl-alt-del in windows?
[01:34] <pjero> hmmm integrated sound card detection id guess
[01:34] <SpudDogg> Mach3, that i;m not really sure about.  do you have g++ installed?  try 'sudo apt-get install g++'
[01:34] <soundray> am_rods: xkill (you may have to install it)
[01:34] <bob0908> my tektonic account seems pretty zippy so far, but having a missing file worries me (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:34] <am_rods> cool, thanks
[01:34] <NkZ> Help anyone?
[01:35] <Pici> Mach3, SpudDogg : The package needed to compile programs is build-essential
[01:35] <Spec> sonicdevo: well, if sky2 isn't working, you're going to need to "struggle" to get sk98lin to work
[01:35] <sonicdevo> Spec: so, i'll probably have to compile it in to the kernel?
[01:35] <Spec> sonicdevo: yeah, unless eth0 isn't the usb network card :p
[01:35] <neutrino15> soundray: ok, more specifically, I have a firewire external HD... Whenever I try to boot from ubuntu on a partition there, it fails (because grub is absent). Grub, however, always fails to install. I don't know where to install it.. My disks are sda and sdb (sda is the internal disk, so only use sdb).. I have swap on part 2 and my root on part 4...
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> How can I open a ms clip art file, and extract the clip art from it, an mpf file? Is there a program for linux that can open an mpf file?
[01:35] <SpudDogg> Mach3, ah yes...Pici is correct.  sorry man, I'm a bit of a noob too.
[01:36] <Spec> pianoboy3333: open it up in ms and do a screenshot :p
[01:36] <Brombomb> If Im using pam_cracklib to make sure a pword is at least 8 chars, do I just set minlen=8?
[01:36] <BlackMad> MarkAstur
[01:36] <SCanztz> HELP! i have a dual boot system but i cant log back into windows
[01:36] <BlackMad> !seen MarkAstur
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen markastur - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <soundray> neutrino15: have you created a DOS partition table on the fw drive, or did you stick with the Mac disklabel?
[01:37] <sonicdevo> Spec: that's what I thought, I've verified that eth0 IS the USB NIC
[01:37] <SpudDogg> SCanztz, is the windows install showing in your grub list?
[01:37] <pjero> Hello Folks !
[01:37] <pjero> I am in need of assistance, and as the title to this post says ...it's sound based issue.
[01:37] <pjero> What my trouble is ... is that my current OS (edgy 6.10 x86_64) amd64 doesn't detect my
[01:37] <pjero> integrated sound chip on my MoBo --->>> ASUS M2N32 - SLI Deluxe .
[01:37] <pjero> I have made at least 9 fresh ubuntu installs ...always messing it up with an emulated driver....
[01:37] <pjero> I have surfed around the entire forum...but couldn't find an answer to my problem.
[01:37] <Spec> sonicdevo: sorry about that :-/, good luck with sk98lin
[01:37] <pjero> I have basicaly tried everything with no results whatsovere...and please..don't suggest that maybe
[01:37] <neutrino15> guhhhh, I used disk-utility on the mac, so I think that its a Mac Disklabel.. The external need to have a partition for me to use as mac backup and storage, so mac needs to be able to see at least that
[01:37] <pjero> my sound is muted because it isn't...(wish it was =) ) .
[01:37] <jrib> !enter | pjero
[01:37] <ubotu> pjero: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:37] <pjero> At my first install i had a small issue that regarded me turning my APIC off.... later on i
[01:37] <pjero> FLASHED my BIOS to the latest version (0903) which resolved the problem and installed a
[01:37] <SCanztz> no
[01:37] <pjero> fresh copy over again.
[01:37] <pjero> My stats:
[01:37] <pjero> 00:0e.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[01:37] <jrib> pjero: stop
[01:37] <pjero> Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81f6
[01:37] <Spec> oh dear god
[01:37] <pjero> Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 58
[01:37] <sonicdevo> Spec: thanks for your help!
[01:37] <Spec> !ops
[01:37] <pjero> Memory at fe020000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] 
[01:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:37] <pjero> Capabilities: <access denied>
[01:37] <neutrino15> soundray: guhhhh, I used disk-utility on the mac, so I think that its a Mac Disklabel.. The external need to have a partition for me to use as mac backup and storage, so mac needs to be able to see at least that
[01:37] <Brombomb> Can anyone hear me?
[01:38] <NkZ> Issue: K3B Is being weird. Won't let me burn DVDs allways says "Insert Blank DVD on device"
[01:38] <AlienX> beryl question: how do I get beryl to stop fading windows? I'm running ubuntu edgy and I have the window fading option deselected in the settings manager but still no luck
[01:38] <jrib> Brombomb: no, irc is text only ;)
[01:38] <Brombomb> lol thx
[01:38] <Brombomb> I thought I was going crazy
[01:38] <nalioth> Spec: can we help you?
[01:38] <Spec> well, there was a bunch of text flowing down my screen non-stoppable, but it seems to have stopped
[01:38] <SCanztz> no it doesnt
[01:38] <nalioth> !tell pjero about paste
[01:39] <utaho> hi everyone
[01:39] <SpudDogg> utaho, hello
[01:39] <caleb> Is automatix's website broke and is there a mirror?
[01:39] <Mach3> Pici: youre saying i need to install something called "build-essesntial" ?
[01:39] <Spec> caleb: automatix is broke
[01:39] <jrib> caleb: ask in #automatix
[01:39] <nalioth> caleb: join #automatix
[01:39] <caleb> thanks
[01:39] <abasinisvacant> hello, i installed   gtk-gnutella,  but when i click it, it doesn't run???  can someone help?
[01:39] <NkZ> Anyone help me please?
[01:39] <jrib> abasinisvacant: what happens when you enter the 'gtk-gnutella' command in a terminal?
[01:39] <lisapc> my DVD burner says it supports writ features: DVD-R DL , DVD+R DL.  Whats that mean?
[01:39] <crdlb> abasinisvacant, open a terminal and run gtk-terminal
[01:39] <crdlb> gtk-gnutella*
[01:40] <SCanztz> spuddogg: plz help me im a bit desperate
[01:40] <pjero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7871/
[01:40] <jrib> NkZ: best to just repeat your question every 20 minutes or so instead of just asking "someone" to help
[01:40] <soundray> neutrino15: I think in that case you have to put grub into the boot sector of the partition rather than the master boot record (which is a DOS disklabel feature). You then have to boot with yaboot
[01:40] <Spec> lisapc: it means your dvd can burn both "+" and "-" dvds
[01:40] <abasinisvacant> it says 'it's too ancient'
[01:40] <jrib> NkZ: also, try the forums and mailing list if no one seems to know the answer here atm
[01:40] <SpudDogg> SCanztz, when you reboot your computer and get the list of OSes, is windows on there?  do you get errors when you try to boot?
[01:40] <utaho> What are the minimum specs to run Ubuntu smoothly for the Live and Installation mode ?
[01:40] <IcemanV9> Mach3: yes. sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:40] <NkZ> jrib: Will do.
[01:40] <SCanztz> no
[01:40] <neutrino15> soundray: so how would I do this? (assume i am a noob, which i am)
[01:40] <SCanztz> i cant see windows but i didnt uninstall it
[01:40] <soundray> neutrino15: sorry, I've little experience here, but I think you will find something if you look through the install pages. Ubotu will send you a link
[01:41] <lisapc> Spec whats DL mean?
[01:41] <soundray> !install > neutrino15
[01:41] <abasinisvacant> i opened terminal and typed    gtk-gnutella, and it told me the file is too ancient to run
[01:41] <Mach3> thanks
[01:41] <jrib> abasinisvacant: pastebin the full output word for word
[01:41] <Spec> lisapc: dual layer perhaps, i'm not sure
[01:41] <atarinox> does anybody here have experience accessing Windows shared folders on a local network
[01:41] <abasinisvacant> ok just a min
[01:41] <Spec> !samba | atarinox
[01:41] <ubotu> atarinox: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:41] <soundray> atarinox: you have to say what the problem is
[01:41] <jackson3246> is anyone in here an experienced ruby programmer? I'm having a problem with the RDT plugin for eclipse
[01:41] <neutrino15> soundray: what?
[01:41] <lisapc> !DL
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <SCanztz> i dont even get a choice
[01:41] <soundray> Spec: samba is for sharing, not for mounting remote shares
[01:41] <SCanztz> it just goes straight to linux
[01:42] <am_rods> !wireless card problem
[01:42] <Vilhelms> When I run a game through cedega all the sounds of any other application stop working while the game is running, except for the sounds from the game. Is there a way to fix it? I noticed that if I try to click "Test" on gnome-sound-properties while the game is running I get the following error: http://paste.uni.cc/13357 Please help :(
[01:42] <allan> I recently tried to install a .deb package from www.getdeb.net. During the install, it got messed up
[01:42] <SpudDogg> lisapc, it means dual layer.  you could burn 8GB to a dvd.  you need dual-layer dvds though
[01:42] <Spec> soundray: i think you can use samba to mount a remote share, can't you?
[01:42] <utaho> there is also the NTFS driver that has been finalized
[01:42] <atarinox> soundray: i've installed konqueror, but i can't see the other shared folders on our wireless network
[01:42] <soundray> Spec: no
[01:42] <allan> now my apt get wont work
[01:42] <neutrino15> soundray: also, I am using an intel mac (EFI)
[01:42] <allan> i get this error
[01:42] <allan> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the brasero package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[01:42] <allan> anyone got any ideas on how to fix this?
[01:43] <soundray> neutrino15: ah. Have you used boot camp on it?
[01:43] <pjero> Soundray : how can i make Ubuntu Edgy (64) detect my integrated sound card which is from a M2N32 -SLI Deluxe MoBo ? ....
[01:43] <lisapc> SpudDogg wow thats amazing!  I was told it didnt support dual layers.  but Nero says it does
[01:43] <am_rods> i get the SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device error when clicking the network monitor icon
[01:43] <neutrino15> soundray: on the external? No, but I can try, how do you mean though?
[01:43] <Spec> soundray: what is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  ?
[01:43] <Belac> how do I join a channel in xchat? I can't seem to join #Automatix
[01:43] <SCanztz> can u help me?
[01:43] <jackson3246> is anyone in here an experienced ruby programmer? I'm having a problem with the RDT plugin for eclipse
[01:43] <SpudDogg> lisapc, well, does your drive say DL or dual layer on it?
[01:43] <Spec> it looks like it's using samba to mount a remote share
[01:43] <Spec> but i could be wrong
[01:43] <lisapc> SpudDogg no idea!  its internal
[01:44] <soundray> atarinox: sorry, don't know with konqueror. Maybe #kubuntu ?
[01:44] <SpudDogg> Belac, '/j #channelname
[01:44] <allan> I recently tried to install a .deb package from www.getdeb.net. During the install, it got messed up. now my apt get wont work.  i get this error: E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the brasero package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[01:44] <lisapc> SpudDogg DVD Sup.MTI.
[01:44] <mindstate> #ati sucks, im having some driver trouble or something with my card, im not sure what the problem is but im not able to run call of duty under wine, and a "glxinfo |grep direct" gives me an output of yes...any one who can help?
[01:44] <am_rods> how do i fix the SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device error?
[01:44] <soundray> neutrino15: you have to have the EFI modifications that boot camp makes before you can use grub on an Intel Mac.
[01:44] <atarinox> soundray: do you know any other programs i could try?
[01:44] <dkbg> why am I getting gnome-panel reporting as using 4GB of memory in system monitor?
[01:44] <SpudDogg> mindstate, what card are you running?
[01:44] <jackson3246> is anyone in here an experienced ruby programmer? I'm having a problem with the RDT plugin for eclipse
[01:44] <soundray> Spec: that has nothing to do with samba.
[01:44] <francois> hey everyone, i have a file in my trash i can't delete, how can i force the delete
[01:44] <atarinox> soundray: konqueror seems kind of resource heavy anyway
[01:45] <soundray> Spec: SMB and CIFS are not samba
[01:45] <NkZ> jrib: I solved it, Issue was so stupid I can't believe I made it.
[01:45] <pjero> Soundray : how can i make Ubuntu Edgy (64) detect my integrated sound card which is from a M2N32 -SLI Deluxe MoBo ? ....
[01:45] <mindstate> SpudDogg, ATI Radeon 7000/VE , which is supposed to have automatic 3d support
[01:45] <jrib> francois: sudo rm ~/.Trash/NAME_OF_FILE
[01:45] <Spec> smbfs just means samba fs, no relation.
[01:45] <francois> jrib: thanks
[01:45] <mindstate> SpudDogg, fglrx doesnt work with my card
[01:45] <NkZ> jrib: Thanks Anyhow. Have a goog one!
[01:45] <jrib> NkZ: good to hear, what was it btw?
[01:45] <lisapc> SpudDogg any ideas?
[01:45] <abasinisvacant> to whoever is helping me with my gtk-gnutella problem:    http://pastebin.com/890313
[01:45] <mcphail> jackson3246: wrong channel, i'm afraid
[01:45] <SpudDogg> mindstate, what happens if you type 'glxgears'?
[01:45] <allan> I recently tried to install a .deb package from www.getdeb.net. During the install, it got messed up. now my apt get wont work.  i get this error: E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the brasero package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[01:45] <allan> any ideas?
[01:45] <NkZ> jrib: I don't wanna tell, It's too stupid to be mentioned, mentioning it would lower my IQ by 100 points.
[01:45] <jrib> !repeat | allan
[01:45] <ubotu> allan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:45] <mindstate> SpudDogg, 3 gears turning
[01:46] <VSpike> I've changed a bog standard USB mouse to bog standard PS2 mouse.  How do I get xorg to recognise it?
[01:46] <jrib> NkZ: heh ok
[01:46] <mindstate> SpudDogg, at a fairly fast speed
[01:46] <neutrino15> soundray: oh, ok... so I should part the external with that? Then use the ubuntu installer partitioner to further break it up into ext3 and swap? But then at the end of the installer, It will ask me where to install grub (hd0 is default), what should I put there?
[01:46] <soundray> atarinox: you can use nautilus, but you'll have to live with the gnome-vfs limitations. Ubuntuguide has instructions for modifying fstab to mount Windows shares permanently
[01:46] <linxeh> VSpike: change mouse device to /dev/psaux in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:46] <jackson3246> mcphail: I know, but nobody is responding in either #eclipse or #ruby :(
[01:46] <SpudDogg> mindstate, well then glx is working.  are they turning nice and smooth or somewhat choppy?
[01:46] <NkZ> jrib: You know what they say: Intel Inside, Idiot Outside.
[01:46] <jrib> allan: what were you trying to install?
[01:46] <mindstate> SpudDogg, nice and smooth
[01:46] <allan> brasero
[01:46] <mcphail> jackson3246: feel free to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:47] <allan> now all of apt-get is messed though
[01:47] <jrib> allan: do you just want to get rid of brasero now?
[01:47] <abasinisvacant> my gtk-gnutella won't work,  i opened terminal and typed 'gtk-gnutella' and this is what i got:  http://pastebin.com/890313    .  any ideas?
[01:47] <pjero> Soundray : how can i make Ubuntu Edgy (64) detect my integrated sound card which is from a M2N32 -SLI Deluxe MoBo ?
[01:47] <SpudDogg> mindstate, if you're having issues with ATI drivers try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI      I found it EXTREMELY helpful
[01:47] <allan> yes
[01:47] <atarinox> soundray: so i won't be able to just browse other windows computers shared folders in the workgroup without modifying fstab?
[01:47] <soundray> neutrino15: okay, I've done this only once, and not on a firewire, but on a second SATA drive. I prepared a Windows partition on the first drive with boot camp, but installed ubuntu on the second drive.
[01:47] <allan> i tried a remove command
[01:47] <soundray> pjero: can you stop that please
[01:48] <allan> but it said i had to reinstall
[01:48] <jrib> allan: use a better pastebin, I clicked on your link when you first pasted and I'm still waiting for it to load :)
[01:48] <pjero> oky :(
[01:48] <jrib> abasinisvacant: use a better pastebin, I clicked on your link when you first pasted and I'm still waiting for it to load :)
[01:48] <soundray> atarinox: you can with nautilus
[01:48] <neutrino15> soundray: what? You paritioned the first drive but installed it to the second//
[01:48] <jrib> allan: does this not work:  sudo dpkg -r brasero
[01:48] <abasinisvacant> jrib:  it took a long time to upload too.  what better pastebin??
[01:48] <soundray> neutrino15: exactly. I let the ubuntu installer leave the "windows" partition alone and told it to install on the second drive.
[01:49] <jrib> abasinisvacant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is one
[01:49] <mindstate> SpudDogg, ive done all that..that doesnt help
[01:49] <distro-tester> !mark
[01:49] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[01:49] <jrib> abasinisvacant: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:49] <SpudDogg> mindstate, ok, and what is the problem again?
[01:49] <allan> it wont uninstall
[01:49] <allan> it says that i should reinstall before attempting a removal
[01:49] <jrib> allan: and this: sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[01:50] <neutrino15> oh... well... then that solves nothing ;) I still need a way to install grub
[01:50] <soundray> neutrino15: the second drive had a DOS pt. I put grub on the second drive. Now miraculously, when I boot, it boots into grub because the disk order is swapped in "Windows" boot mode.
[01:50] <VSpike> linxeh: thanks.. doesn't work :/  Maybe this mouse does not support a USB -> PS2 adapter
[01:50] <mindstate> SpudDogg, when i try to run Call of Duty under wine or cedega it tells me my video card i missing one or more features to run
[01:50] <am_rods> can anyone help me with the SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device error?
[01:50] <jrib> !info brasero | allan
[01:50] <ubotu> allan: brasero: CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 520 kB, installed size 1172 kB
[01:50] <mindstate> SpudDogg, something about my drivers
[01:50] <soundray> neutrino15: when I hold the Option key, I can still boot Mac OS X as ever.
[01:50] <linuxnewbie756> In my Alacarte, I have some folder groups i would like to delete, but can't do it in the gui in alacarte, so can i find some folder or text file and edit it?
[01:51] <jrib> allan: brasero is pacakged in ubuntu's repositories, so you can install it from there after you remove this foreign package
[01:51] <abasinisvacant> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7873/
[01:51] <neutrino15> soundray: I am going to use either rEFIt or BootX which both boot from seperate parts... I think I need to use bootcamp to add a dos header.. I will try that... Thanks!
[01:51] <allan> thank you, your last force remove command seemed to work
[01:51] <jrib> allan: do you know how to add the universe repository?
[01:51] <soundray> neutrino15: now I believe there was some serendipity involved. I think to install your system, you will have to employ something like refit, which I didn't have to use.
[01:51] <allan> yes
[01:51] <SpudDogg> mindstate, what is the output if you just type 'fglrxinfo'?
[01:51] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: there is a way to solve it; look after *** ancient version detected ***
[01:52] <linxeh> VSpike: with PS2 mice quite often you have to reboot (or even powercycle) with the mouse plugged in as the machine starts up before it will work
[01:52] <soundray> neutrino15: good luck, let me know how it went if you see me here another day.
[01:52] <neutrino15> soundray: yeah, I am ready for that... I just need to make sure that it CAN boot (that grub does not FAIL
[01:52] <jrib> allan: k, no reason to go to random sites and install debs when they are already packaged in official ubuntu repositories
[01:52] <matty_v> Hey has anyone here got Beryl working on linux?
[01:52] <mindstate> SpudDogg, fglrxinfo isnt installed.. my card isnt compatible with fglrx
[01:52] <linxeh> VSpike: I've even had cases where the PS2 mouse wont work without a PS2 keyboard plugged in, and vice versa
[01:52] <allan> yeah i was just being lazy and noticed that it was on the site
[01:52] <VSpike> linxeh: I think I did that.  I do have a PS2 keboard.
[01:52] <mindstate> SpudDogg, my card is supposed to work with the default ati drivers when i install fglrx ..X doesnt start..
[01:52] <allan> i'll avoid it in the future
[01:52] <neutrino15> soundray: sure thing, I will probably rite a forum post about it if I WIN!
[01:52] <abasinisvacant> IcemanV9, i don't know how to open the gtk-gnutella editor
[01:52] <allan> thank you for your time
[01:52] <SpudDogg> mindstate, hang on a second.  im freakin lost
[01:52] <mindstate> SpudDogg, lol
[01:52] <kbrooks> Can I have some basic help?
[01:52] <neutrino15> soundray: thanks!, bye
[01:52] <VSpike> linxeh: I guess a reboot won't hurt though :)
[01:52] <jrib> !helpme | kbrooks
[01:52] <ubotu> kbrooks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:53] <soundray> neutrino15: I've got my fingers crossed
[01:53] <almostkorean> is there a way to get flash player working for firefox on a powerbook?
[01:53] <kbrooks> OK
[01:53] <kbrooks> um
[01:53] <mindstate> SpudDogg, i have a radeon 7000/VE .. if you look on the ATI ubuntu page it says ..my card has 3d acceleration automatically..i dont need fglrx
[01:53] <VSpike> linxeh: is there any way before X starts that I can test the mouse device?
[01:53] <almostkorean> when i try installing it, i get an error that says the installer doesnt support powerpc
[01:53] <kbrooks> uhh...
[01:53] <kbrooks> thinking.
[01:53] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: gedit /home/dal/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet
[01:53] <SpudDogg> mindstate, do you mean 700?
[01:53] <jrib> !enter | kbrooks, stop, this isn't your first time here....
[01:53] <ubotu> kbrooks, stop, this isn't your first time here....: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:53] <kbrooks> ok, i basically have a problem with logging in to the GUI
[01:54] <mindstate> SpudDogg, 0000:00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] 
[01:54] <mindstate> thats my card
[01:54] <soundray> almostkorean: sorry, no manufacturer-supported flash for PPC. You might try gnash, but it's experimental still
[01:54] <linuxnewbie756> how can i remove folder groups in alacarte? delete them i mean
[01:54] <abasinisvacant> thanks iceman
[01:54] <linxeh> VSpike: you could try cat /dev/psaux I guess, or maybe install gpm and start that using psaux (gpm -d /dev/psaux or something) - gpm gives you mouse cursor / clipboard in virtual consoles
[01:54] <abasinisvacant> thanks IcemanV9
[01:54] <SpudDogg> mindstate, thats not even listed in the linux drivers on the ati site...let me read about that card...hang on a sec
[01:54] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: sure
[01:54] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: select the parent folder on the left side
[01:54] <Stormbind> anyone know how I can update to the new version of java
[01:55] <VSpike> linxeh: thanks. brb
[01:55] <kbrooks> i try to login to gnome under kbrooks and it doesnt work. so i create a test user named kbrookstest and then login, and it works. why?
[01:55] <Stormbind> I can't seem to get some of my java to work
[01:55] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: then you can delete (or hide, in older versions) the folders
[01:55] <mindstate> SpudDogg, alright
[01:55] <soundray> Stormbind: which version is installed?
[01:55] <jrib> Stormbind: what version of ubuntu?
[01:55] <Vilhelms> When I run a game through cedega all the sounds of any other application stop working while the game is running, except for the sounds from the game. Is there a way to fix it? I noticed that if I try to click "Test" on gnome-sound-properties while the game is running I get the following error: http://paste.uni.cc/13357 Please help :(
[01:55] <mindstate> SpudDogg, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf07797 that link says my card has full 3d support
[01:55] <linxeh> Stormbind: you need to manually build a package, or get Java6 from the edgy backports repository
[01:55] <linxeh> Stormbind: what error do you get ?
[01:55] <linuxnewbie756> Amaranth, i am supposed to be able to delete, but it isn't clickable. I can delete folders i have created, but how can i delete other ones?
[01:55] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: you have an older version
[01:56] <SpudDogg> mindstate, does that card have a composite output?
[01:56] <Stormbind> linxeh, remember working with me before
[01:56] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: you can only hide then
[01:56] <kbrooks> i used sudo adduser kbrookstest to add this new user
[01:56] <mindstate> SpudDogg, do u mean s-video?
[01:56] <linxeh> Stormbind: yeah - sorry, I was away working
[01:56] <Amaranth> Vilhelms: then is a design flaw in cedega
[01:56] <matty_v> Hi Guys, I just tried to install Beryl using the guide on "http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL_and_ATI" But now my PC is failing to start x-server. I have removed beryl using the last line on that page however I still recieve the problem?
[01:56] <linuxnewbie756> Amaranth, how would i update my version? Im using dapper, and I am waiting for feisty.
[01:56] <Stormbind> linxeh, can you go to www.websites4horsemen.com/rayremmen
[01:56] <Stormbind> and check the menu button
[01:56] <Amaranth> Vilhelms: there are some potential solutions but they are ugly hacks and cause cause your games to crash randomly
[01:56] <mindstate> SpudDogg, it has 3 ports on it
[01:56] <SpudDogg> mindstate, no, the red, white and yellow connectors are called composite.  does that thing have a yellow plug on it?
[01:56] <Stormbind> it should open on mouseover
[01:56] <linxeh> Vilhelms: maybe you need to get Cedega to use ALSA for audio IO or something
[01:57] <Vilhelms> linxeh: It is using alsa
[01:57] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: the newer versions are apart of the GNOME releases
[01:57] <Vilhelms> Amaranth: Oh =\
[01:57] <linuxnewbie756> so i could use a newer version of gnome? how would i do that Amaranth
[01:57] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: No, GNOME is most of the software that runs your desktop :)
[01:57] <Vilhelms> Amaranth: Is it any better in wine? Or does wine have the same problem?
[01:57] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: you need to upgrade to edgy or feisty
[01:57] <mindstate> SpudDogg, no it doesnt have that
[01:58] <linuxnewbie756> Amaranth, oh, when is feisty officially out?
[01:58] <Amaranth> Vilhelms: WINE will use alsa so if you have a good sound card it should work
[01:58] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: april
[01:58] <Joe_CoT> .
[01:58] <linxeh> Stormbind: try this one http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/object/java/clock
[01:58] <kbrooks> Amaranth: which day?
[01:58] <linuxnewbie756> Amaranth, will i be able to upgrade from dapper?
[01:58] <nexous> How do i add my theme to conky?
[01:58] <gpm> hi all, now that you can't download ipod updater, how do people get firmware updates for ipods (aside from using windows/os x)?
[01:58] <Amaranth> kbrooks: i thought it was the 21st?
[01:58] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: only if you upgrade to edgy first
[01:58] <kbrooks> Amaranth: maybe. i dunno
[01:58] <linxeh> Stormbind: that page doesn't have any Java on it ?
[01:59] <linuxnewbie756> Amaranth, that sounds hard, wouldn't it be just as easy to download fiesty and fresh install?
[01:59] <Stormbind> linxeh, maybe uavascript
[01:59] <mindstate> nexous, just edit the conky config file
[01:59] <Stormbind> javascript
[01:59] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: probably
[01:59] <mindstate> SpudDogg, ?
[01:59] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: easier, actually
[01:59] <Stormbind> linxeh, everything was working well at the w3c web page
[01:59] <linxeh> Stormbind: it has Javascript yes, but the javascript is broken
[01:59] <soundray> kbrooks: examine your $HOME/.xsession-errors
[01:59] <almostkorean> whats the best bit torrent client, besides Azureus, for linux?
[01:59] <kbrooks> linuxnewbie756: you can' t jump versions, e.g. dapper -> fiesty
[01:59] <soundray> !best | almostkorean
[01:59] <ubotu> almostkorean: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:59] <mindstate> !torrent
[01:59] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:59] <linxeh> Stormbind: ok, so looks like your Java is installed right
[01:59] <linuxnewbie756> Amaranth, thats what I will do then!!! Thanks.
[01:59] <nexous> mindstate: I have created .conkyrc in home dir, but it doesn't load conky.
[01:59] <linxeh> Stormbind: Java is *not* javascript - totally different things
[01:59] <linuxnewbie756> kbrooks, got it
[02:00] <SpudDogg> mindstate, did you follow the instructions on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf07797     for removing the fglrx module and configuring xorg?
[02:00] <Amaranth> linuxnewbie756: well the upgrade it automated but it uses a lot of bandwidth and can cause problems, especially if you use 3rd party repos or automatix
[02:00] <Stormbind> linxeh, I made it with dreamweaver and the javascript works under internet explorer 7
[02:00] <mindstate> SpudDogg, yes, there was no fglrx module to remove in the 1st place.. and ive edited my xorg.conf
[02:00] <SpudDogg> mindstate, man, i have no clue
[02:00] <mindstate> SpudDogg, :-/
[02:00] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9 are you still there?
[02:00] <SpudDogg> mindstate, with my x850XT the binary driver instructions work like a charm
[02:01] <pythonic> hi! is there a virtual hostname that represents "this host on eth0"?
[02:01] <mindstate> SpudDogg, doesnt work with my card
[02:01] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: yes
[02:01] <mindstate> this sucks!
[02:01] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9, i replaced the word "ancient_..." with "gtk-gnutella/0.95.4 (2005-07-31; GTK2; Linux i686)"
[02:01] <abasinisvacant> is that what i'm supposed to do?
[02:01] <abasinisvacant> or do i put in inside the quotes?
[02:01] <mindstate> SpudDogg, why does glxinfo |grep direct ..output YES if i dont have 3d enabled?
[02:01] <Amaranth> mindstate: x850XT should have worked fine on a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10
[02:01] <abasinisvacant> i saved, but it still doesn't work
[02:01] <mindstate> Amaranth, im on a Radeon 7000/VE
[02:01] <SpudDogg> mindstate, pfffft...got me man
[02:01] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: hold on
[02:01] <Amaranth> oh
[02:01] <Amaranth> mindstate: fglrx stopped supporting that awhile back
[02:02] <Amaranth> mindstate: it's open source or nothing :)
[02:02] <Amaranth> mindstate: (this is why closed-source drivers suck)
[02:02] <Stormbind> linxeh, so there is a problem with my javascript?
[02:02] <mindstate> Amaranth, i cant get 3d to work ..but glxinfo | grep direct tells me it works
[02:02] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: without quotes
[02:02] <mindstate> Amaranth, but when i try to run a 3d game.. it tells me im missing features
[02:02] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9, it doesn't save
[02:02] <shatrat> mindstate, maybe its because you have a card from the 90s
[02:02] <Amaranth> mindstate: you're missing features because you have a _really_ old card
[02:03] <abasinisvacant> IcemanV9, i saved and quit, and when i reoopened it didn't make the changes i wanted
[02:03] <kbrooks> soundray: well, um
[02:03] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: it doesn't? ah. okay. use sudo.
[02:03] <kbrooks> soundray: got some cryptic errors
[02:03] <mindstate> Amaranth, well that sucks
[02:03] <abasinisvacant> Icemanv9, how?
[02:03] <gu014> i need to move a vmware image from ubuntu to windows xp. Could anyone offer any help as to what i would need to do in order to make this happen?
[02:03] <soundray> kbrooks: feel free to pastebin them
[02:03] <mindstate> Amaranth, so theres no hope for this card right?
[02:03] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: sudo gedit /home/dal/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet
[02:03] <kbrooks> soundray: cant, can i paste in #flood ?
[02:04] <abasinisvacant> ok
[02:04] <Amaranth> mindstate: yeah well, can't expect to buy one video card and use it for the rest of your life, they add features to newer cards :)
[02:04] <kbrooks> soundray: im in irssi
[02:04] <shatrat> mindstate, not for gaming
[02:04] <soundray> kbrooks: okay
[02:04] <Amaranth> mindstate: no, not really
[02:04] <linxeh> Stormbind: yeah, It works here in IE6 on Wine, but not Mozilla. I don't have a windows machine to try it on Firefox sorry
[02:04] <mindstate> Amaranth, thanks now at least i wont waste time trying to get it to work
[02:04] <IcemanV9> gu014: on the same box (dual-boot) OR different machines?
[02:04] <ST47> I have GRUB and a flashing line
[02:04] <b00dhi> quit
[02:04] <ST47> help
[02:04] <linxeh> Stormbind: Dreamweaver doesnt exactly have a good reputation for writing nice code. I suspect all that is wrong though is the paths to the images
[02:04] <Amaranth> mindstate: it might work with, say, compiz
[02:05] <linxeh> oh sorry, no scrub that
[02:05] <Amaranth> mindstate: but only if you turn most of the features off
[02:05] <Stormbind> hum...
[02:05] <Stormbind> wonder why it works with IE but not mozilla
[02:05] <mindstate> Amaranth, it works with beryl
[02:05] <Amaranth> mindstate: with wobbly?
[02:05] <mindstate> Amaranth, yep
[02:05] <Stormbind> cause if the paths were wrong it would not work at either
[02:05] <Amaranth> mindstate: interesting
[02:05] <mindstate> Amaranth, weird right
[02:05] <mindstate> lol
[02:05] <Stormbind> and dreamweaver did not write the code
[02:05] <Amaranth> mindstate: it'll work good with compiz too then :)
[02:05] <Stormbind> I generated it with a web application
[02:05] <Amaranth> mindstate: won't do blur or water though, eh?
[02:05] <shatrat> mindstate, you should turn off beryl before you try to play games
[02:06] <mindstate> Amaranth, i dont have beryl installed ne more
[02:06] <Newbie1981> hi guys i cant seen automatix wiki :( and i cant install it help :D
[02:06] <mindstate> shatrat, i mean^
[02:06] <david__> whats the channel for beryl?
[02:06] <david__> ubuntu-looks?..or ?
[02:06] <shatrat> Newbie1981, automatix is bad anyway
[02:06] <mindstate> Amaranth, all the features worked with beryl
[02:06] <Newbie1981> why
[02:06] <shatrat> david__, ubuntu-effects
[02:06] <IcemanV9> #ubuntu-effects
[02:06] <gu014> IcemanV9, i moved the image to a seperate windows box..and when i try and run the image i encounter an error message which i assume relates to the filesystem...
[02:06] <david__> thank you
[02:06] <Amaranth> mindstate: you can use water in beryl?
[02:06] <linxeh> Stormbind: I've had path errors in CSS before that work in IE but not Mozilla, and vice versa. Not with javascript directly though (unless manipulating the styles directly from javascript)
[02:06] <Amaranth> mindstate: water needs shaders
[02:07] <mindstate> Amaranth, i actually dont remember..i uninstalled a while ago
[02:07] <utaho> What are the minimum specs to run Ubuntu smoothly for the Live and Installation mode, please ?
[02:07] <linxeh> I hate those menus though
[02:07] <Stormbind> could you send that last message again please
[02:07] <IcemanV9> gu014: it shouldn't give an error; check the permission (i think)
[02:07] <shatrat> !automatix | Newbie1981 it's better to install things using standard ubuntu repos and methods.
[02:07] <ubotu> Newbie1981 it's better to install things using standard ubuntu repos and methods.: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:07] <Stormbind> I closed xchat by accident
[02:07] <Amaranth> mindstate: I can guarantee it doesn't work unless you're lying about your card model. :)
[02:07] <kitche> utaho: I would say at least 128 mb to 256 megs
[02:07] <linxeh> Stormbind: I've had path errors in CSS before that work in IE but not Mozilla, and vice versa. Not with javascript directly though (unless manipulating the styles directly from javascript)
[02:08] <linux_user400354> is there any way to put a linux computer into a software raid without reinstalling and using the existing partitions?
[02:08] <utaho> Thanks
[02:08] <Stormbind> intresting
[02:08] <Stormbind> thanks
[02:08] <mindstate> Amaranth, lol well then it probably didnt, i do have a Radeon 7000/VE RV100 series
[02:08] <shatrat> utaho, I believe its 256 for the livecd, considerably less for the alternate install
[02:08] <Stormbind> I'll go back and make sure the code is good
[02:08] <linxeh> Stormbind: the other problem with that menu is that it is unusable in lynx/links/screenreaders
[02:08] <gu014> IcemanV9, the error i receive is: "the file specified is not a virtual disk"
[02:08] <Newbie1981> ubotu: thx m8
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx m8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <nil> hi!
[02:08] <shatrat> hi
[02:08] <Stormbind> I know it's not a w3c compliant web page
[02:08] <utaho> So 128 Mo for Alternate and 256 Mo for Live
[02:08] <mindstate> Amaranth, why do some 3d games work then?
[02:08] <soundray> Amaranth: could you please ban kbrooks in #flood -- he's pasting the same error message over and over
[02:08] <IcemanV9> gu014: corrupted?
[02:08] <Amaranth> mindstate: yeah, shaders didn't exist back then
[02:08] <Amaranth> mindstate: they work if they don't use shaders
[02:09] <mindstate> Amaranth, ohhhh
[02:09] <Amaranth> soundray: we don't own #flood
[02:09] <mindstate> Amaranth, i get it
[02:09] <linxeh> Stormbind: you are best off doing those menus with an unordered list (<ul>) and then using stylesheets and javascript to format / hide / show bits of them
[02:09] <soundray> Amaranth: I see...
[02:09] <gu014> IcemanV9, the image if fine under ubuntu
[02:09] <shatrat> utaho, I dont know what the min is for alternate install, but I bet its lower than 128.
[02:09] <Stormbind> ahh
[02:09] <Stormbind> good idea
[02:09] <nil> through lots of online docs, I can't find where I can define the number of virtual consoles. can anyone tell me?
[02:09] <linxeh> Stormbind:  that way it degrades nicely into all browsers (in theory)
[02:09] <Stormbind> I think that I will do that from now on
[02:09] <mindstate> Amaranth, thanks man ill go out and get a newer card now
[02:09] <Amaranth> mindstate: get nvidia
[02:09] <utaho> Ok. Thanks any way.
[02:09] <abasinisvacant> Icemanv9, i used sudo, and it still won't save
[02:09] <mindstate> Amaranth, any card u suggest for linux gaming?
[02:09] <crdlb> mindstate, what card do you have?
[02:09] <IcemanV9> gu014: i meant for winxp box .. it could be corrupted there when transferred.
[02:09] <Amaranth> mindstate: as long as it's not ATI you're fine
[02:10] <soundray> kbrooks: I don't have time for that. What's the point in pasting the same message times 300?
[02:10] <mindstate> crdlb, a crappy one.. radeon 7000/ve
[02:10] <Amaranth> mindstate: which means nvidia or intel :)
[02:10] <mindstate> Amaranth, i thought ATI would work well with linux lol silly me
[02:10] <crdlb> mindstate, I have a radeon 7500 mobility and I am very happy w/ it
[02:10] <Amaranth> mindstate: ATI has horrible linux drivers
[02:10] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: ?? why? is the program running while you're editing the file?
[02:10] <mindstate> Amaranth, i realize that now.. lol
[02:10] <utaho> I've read that ATI drivers have a bad reputation
[02:10] <abasinisvacant> the program won't run when i click it
[02:10] <Amaranth> mindstate: If you get something Radeon 9800 or older we have decent open source drivers though
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> I am using Ubuntu on 1.8Ghz 256MB RAM, I load openoffice and it is SLOW.  My 266mhz laptop is faster.  Can someone help me please?
[02:11] <crdlb> in fact there is no proprietary driver for the 7000
[02:11] <marx2k__> beyond beryl, what are NVidia people doing with their amazing video cards that ATI people are not??
[02:11] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9:  if the program is running, i can't see it anywhere
[02:11] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: ok, but why it won't save using sudo?
[02:11] <Amaranth> crdlb: back then ati was funding work on an open source driver, weren't they?
[02:11] <Amaranth> crdlb: or at least giving out specs
[02:11] <mindstate> Amaranth, i see, i think ill go with the nvidia lol
[02:11] <soundray> superkirbyartist: the easiest is to buy some extra RAM
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> I need it for work, usually it's not that slow.
[02:11] <crdlb> Amaranth, I think they only gave the spec
[02:11] <abasinisvacant> IcemanV9, i don't know...
[02:12] <linxeh> Amaranth: ATI has horrible drivers period. I've been stung by poor ATI drivers on practically every platform I've used
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> Soundray: With 256MB RAM, that oughta be more than enough for OpenOffice.org
[02:12] <Amaranth> mindstate: try to get one with a lot of RAM, makes it nicer with compiz/beryl
[02:12] <linxeh> they are not as bad as they were 10 years ago thouhg
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> Soundray: 1GB RAM costs 105$.
[02:12] <marx2k__> Im hoping AMD gets ATI drivers going
[02:12] <soundray> superkirbyartist: it may help to disable Java in openoffice and to switch some other memory related things in "Tools-Options"
[02:12] <linxeh> I just ordered 256GB RAM :)
[02:12] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:12] <mindstate> Amaranth, Ok thanks alot bro
[02:12] <linxeh> that cost somewhat more than 105$
[02:13] <superkirbyartist> SoundRay, I can try, but I think I removed Java Machine.  Unless Open Source machine is still there...
[02:13] <marx2k__> Im pretty happy with 1GB of RAM
[02:13] <marx2k__> I never even get close to maxxing it out
[02:13] <crdlb> superkirbyartist, there is a setting in OOo to disable java
[02:13] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9, maybe i don't have the latest version of gtk-gnutella??  if so, where could i find it?
[02:13] <soundray> superkirbyartist: you don't need 1GB, and, yes OOo is fine in 256MB, but not if it has to share it with Gnome and possibly other stuff
[02:13] <superkirbyartist> It fades in and out on responsiveness.
[02:13] <linxeh> marx2k__: good for you :) the stuff I do needs at least 32GB per process
[02:14] <jackson> I need help resolving a 2-disk dual boot issue.  I have grub on my linux drive and ntldr on the windows drive still.  The boot priority is set to boot from the linux drive.  I am able to boot windows fine with the mapping method in menu.lst  However, linux will only boot if I disconnect my windows drives.  See here for a better description: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7858/
[02:14] <soundray> superkirbyartist: use gnome-system-monitor to find the intermittent memory hog
[02:14] <marx2k__> linxeh, you need 32GB of ram per process?
[02:14] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: very odd. hm. i don't know if you can upgrade it. i am not familiar with gnutella
[02:14] <ayyub> Why do certain valid compose key combinations just give me beeps? Like d h COMPOSE should give me an edh, but instead I just get a beep.
[02:14] <linxeh> marx2k__: preferably more, but I can just about manage at the moment with 32GB. Soon I would appreciate more though
[02:14] <marx2k__> linxeh: you sound like a microsoft engineer ;)
[02:15] <superkirbyartist> I can't do anything!  My hard drive keeps humming and stuff, but the computer is slow!
[02:15] <marx2k__> EMail? Oh boy... youre gonna need 4Ghz to do that
[02:15] <utaho> I've experimented the same with that Mandriva 2006 Free
[02:15] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: what's the version of gnutella? is it 0.96.1? AND which version of ubuntu? dapper or edgy?
[02:16] <ayyub> "But sir! My grandmother doesn't need that much!" "Ah, but she's using the old email!"
[02:16] <linxeh> marx2k__: heh - this is large datasets, and datamining / scoring algorithms - if you can load the whole dataset into ram (or at least the connected parts) you can run algoritms in hours / days rather than weeks/months - which means some nice things start to become possible
[02:16] <stratusfear> any one know what package has the command play for play music on the shell
[02:16] <stratusfear> ?
[02:16] <linxeh> stratusfear: mpg123 is one
[02:16] <superkirbyartist> I had to restart computer for 4th time!
[02:16] <marx2k__> linxeh: are you breaking through into the 4th dimension? :D
[02:16] <linxeh> stratusfear: or you can use sox and pipe it into /dev/dsp or whatever
[02:16] <linxeh> marx2k__: some of the datasets have hundreds of dimensions :P
[02:16] <stratusfear> linxeh thx
[02:17] <soundray> stratusfear: sox
[02:17] <marx2k__> linxeh: are you guys not on a server farm?
[02:17] <superkirbyartist> Peeps this laptop is faster!
[02:17] <linxeh> marx2k__: server farms dont help when you need all the data available at once
[02:17] <gilligan_> is anyone here running ubuntu on a PC with fake RAID ? Like for example a Dell inspiron 9200 with on-board intel fakeRAID ? I am having /massive/ problems with it.. Would be nice to find someone who has it running/going already
[02:17] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9:  ohh! it was the wrong version, i think i got it.  thanks for your help, i will return if i run into more trouble
[02:17] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: type apt-cache policy gtk-gnutella (it'll tell ya the version)
[02:17] <linxeh> marx2k__: clusters only work when you can partition the data up really
[02:17] <abasinisvacant> ubuntu 2.12.1 is what i use
[02:17] <superkirbyartist> I click something on the faster computer, it slows down for 5 minutes.
[02:17] <marx2k__> linxeh: I obviously know very little about data mining
[02:17] <superkirbyartist> !criawips
[02:17] <ubotu> criawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB
[02:17] <Frogzoo> gilligan_: there is a fakeraid page in the wiki
[02:18] <superkirbyartist> Why are there problems installing criawips?
[02:18] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: lsb_release -a (it tells ya the version of ubuntu)
[02:18] <gilligan_> Frogzoo, i know and i have read it..
[02:18] <linxeh> marx2k__: this is kind of strange stuff - usually you would do all this on a large database, but that takes too long
[02:18] <IdleOne> superkirbyartist, what problems?
[02:19] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9:  i use gtk-gnutella version 0.95.4-1
[02:19] <bob0908> what's the simplest way to get security updates (for Dapper Drake)?
[02:19] <SpudDogg> LMAO...I can't concentrate on what I'm doing while watching Beerfest.  LOL
[02:19] <superkirbyartist> People: How can I make my fast computer fast again, please?
[02:19] <marx2k__> linxeh, whats the backend?
[02:19] <TheManiacKY> HELP: A What IF question. I have an External USB Hard drive. I would like to put a Linux LIVE CD on it so whenever I plug the drive into a computer I can have it boot from the USB drive and since its a live cd it would automagicly detect the hardware and just work on pretty much any computer.  So instead of carrying a live cd and my external drive. Is there a way I can put the CD on the Drive?
[02:19] <gilligan_> Frogzoo, my problem is that the dmraid version that is available for edgy doesn't work for me
[02:19] <Dr0b> hey i need help running wine on ubuntu (PM me to help me out) PLEASEEE
[02:19] <Frogzoo> gilligan_: don't use it myself
[02:19] <gilligan_> Frogzoo, and using the feisty version (which depends on a newer libc) caused lots of problems
[02:19] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9:   breezy 5.10
[02:19] <linxeh> marx2k__: well the ram I just ordered is for quad dual-core opterons, but the bigger stuff runs on superdomes
[02:19] <marx2k__> I mean the server backend
[02:20] <ayyub> linxeh: :O
[02:20] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:20] <Frogzoo> Dr0b: chances are you don't need help via pm - what's the problem?
[02:20] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: oh! w0w. okay.
[02:20] <Dr0b> uhh i installed wine, but idk where to run it from
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> TheManiacKY: I haven't tried this yet, but I've had the same question.  Let me look for the answers I got.
[02:20] <Dr0b> ive never used linux before
[02:20] <crdlb> abasinisvacant, why are you running breezy
[02:20] <abasinisvacant> crdlb, why not? i don't know.
[02:20] <Frogzoo> Dr0b: wine blah.exe
[02:20] <kitche> Dr0b: the terminal just type wine program.exe
[02:20] <soundray> TheManiacKY: I think it may be possible, but it would take a major hacking effort. You may be better off using a distribution that has been designed to run off removable drives, like DSL Linux.
[02:20] <marx2k__> dr0b: happens to everyone
[02:20] <shatrat> Dr0b, you use "wine programname.exe" in terminal
[02:21] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: that is the latest version for breezy - 0.95.4
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> TheManiacKY: One person suggested "If your .iso image file is located in /foo and you have a mount
[02:21] <marx2k__> Hell, I never used linux.. before I did
[02:21] <linxeh> ayyub: and the sad thing is I have to install RedHat enterprise rubbish on it
[02:21] <crdlb> abasinisvacant, you really ought to dist-upgrade to dapper
[02:21] <linxeh> ARGH
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> TheManiacKY: point /mnt/bar, do this:, 'sudo mount /foo/file.iso /mnt/bar -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop1' The extracted image is in /mnt/bar
[02:21] <ayyub> ah, really? :(
[02:21] <marx2k__> linxeh: you dont like RHE?
[02:21] <abasinisvacant> crdlb:  how? and how long does it take
[02:21] <linxeh> marx2k__: hell no
[02:21] <marx2k__> besides the awful packaging system, why dont you like redhat?
[02:22] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9:  would upgrading my dist work?
[02:22] <linxeh> if you run offline the package management tools are *rubbish* unless you have a redhat network satellite server
[02:22] <Frogzoo> !wine | Dr0b
[02:22] <ubotu> Dr0b: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:22] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: i wonder if you have backport repo enabled? if so, then see if there is a newer version there
[02:22] <linxeh> dependency hell
[02:22] <bob0908> what's the simplest way to install security patches (for Dapper Drake, and from the command line)?
[02:22] <linxeh> marx2k__: also I hate the cost
[02:22] <marx2k__> yeah but that all goes back to RPM crap
[02:22] <marx2k__> oh yeah, I forgot its not free :D
[02:22] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9:  i have no idea what you're talking about
[02:22] <linxeh> marx2k__: I'd rather install Debian on them, and pay for support when I need it
[02:22] <crdlb> bob0908, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:22] <shatrat> bob0908, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:22] <linxeh> marx2k__: or just donate the money
[02:22] <ayyub> indeed linxeh
[02:23] <crdlb> whoops forgot my sudo
[02:23] <linxeh> we get very very little out of our redhat subscriptions, yet we are forced to have it
[02:23] <jmichaelx> :-(
[02:23] <soundray> !offtopic | linxeh, ayyub, marx2k__ et al.
[02:23] <ubotu> linxeh, ayyub, marx2k__ et al.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:23] <marx2k__> linxeh, yeah but isnt it your company losing money and not you
[02:23] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: yes, it will take time. sometimes it works or not. you'll need to backup something important first. however, let see if backports have a newer one or not. let me find out.
[02:24] <linxeh> marx2k__: yes, they are losing money, but I'd rather see it went on something we get benefit from rather than problems, eg Ubuntu
[02:24] <IcemanV9> does ubotu have info on backports repo package for breezy??
[02:24] <linxeh> it wont happen though :)
[02:24] <crdlb> abasinisvacant, moving to dapper is a good idea imo because it is supported for three years
[02:24] <marx2k__> linxeh: like your paycheck? :D
[02:24] <soundray> !backports | IcemanV9
[02:24] <ubotu> IcemanV9: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:25] <ayyub> Okay, anyway. Anyone know why certain compose key combinations just give me beeps? Like C +d + h should be edh, but it's nothing.
[02:25] <soundray> linxeh, marx2k__: please (offtopic)
[02:25] <linxeh> soundray: apologies
[02:25] <marx2k__> jeez
[02:26] <atarinox> hi, i'm a linux noob, and if someone could help me follow this tutorial i'd really appreciate it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337482&page=6
[02:26] <godtvisken> I get an error when logging in that ~/.dmrc is being ignored, and that it must be set to 644 file permissions, and that my $HOME drive must not be writable by other users. can anyone help?
[02:26] <atarinox> i'm not sure if i have to go through the mounting steps or not...
[02:26] <marx2k__> you need a tutor to help you follow a tutorial?
[02:27] <atarinox> marx2k__: plz
[02:27] <marx2k__> I can try
[02:27] <Dextorio1> nighty
[02:27] <marx2k__> Where are you stuck?
[02:28] <atarinox> marx2k__: on the mounting portion
[02:28] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: well, i think this is a game plan for you. add backports repo to sources.list and see if it does upgrade to the newer version. if not, then it is time to back up important files and dist-upgrade to dapper (pick a day to do it in case of troubleshooting)
[02:28] <atarinox> the auto.battle file
[02:28] <soundray> godtvisken: log into a failsafe session and do a 'rm $HOME/.dmrc'
[02:28] <AlTheHuman> Any vnc mavens here?
[02:28] <marx2k__> whoa, im sorry... Ive never dealt wit that
[02:28] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: oops. forgot to mention this - follow this instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports) to add backports
[02:28] <soundray> !anyone | AlTheHuman
[02:28] <ubotu> AlTheHuman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:28] <marx2k__> what is that tutorial trying to accomplish?
[02:29] <jmazaredo> initramfs console whats this
[02:29] <atarinox> marx2k__: im just trying to access shared folders on other windows computers on my lan
[02:29] <kaelibean> rg
[02:29] <marx2k__> through samba?
[02:29] <ST47> hello, i have two problems... 1. when i use the boot iso i burned my screen gets all freaked out after it loads when i click install or run
[02:29] <marx2k__> there are much easier ways of mounting samba shares
[02:29] <marx2k__> !samba
[02:29] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:30] <gavintlgold> st47 : as in what?
[02:30] <IcemanV9> atarinox: did you enable the shared folder on win32 box?
[02:30] <soundray> atarinox: you may find these instructions easier: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy (scroll down to smbfs)
[02:30] <AlTheHuman> Sorry. I want to be able to log in remotely and I've gotten all the way to the log on screen, but after entering my credentials, the server hangs up. I need a hint.
[02:30] <atarinox> IcemanV9: yea i can access all the shares from my windows box
[02:30] <buchan> Are there any Ubuntu "Minimal CDs" for PowerPC?
[02:30] <ST47> eerything freezes, and there are weird lines] 
[02:30] <Dr0b> it tells me "Open the terminal, and cd ((into the directory where the .EXE is located.))"
[02:30] <Dr0b> what does it mean by that?
[02:30] <gavintlgold> type in cd [and then the directory] 
[02:30] <ayyub> Dr0b: change to the directory your .EXE file is in.
[02:30] <IcemanV9> atarinox: ah. ok. follow what ubotu said about samba. it'll give you how to troubeshoot. :)
[02:31] <atarinox> IcemanV9: ok thanks.....i may be back
[02:31] <IcemanV9> or soundray's suggestion
[02:31] <gavintlgold> dr0b, that's the command for navigating to another directory in the terminal (cd)
[02:31] <soundray> AlTheHuman: have you tried System-Preferences-Remote Desktop on the remote system?
[02:31] <shriphani> anyone knows which package contains the ruby header files ?
[02:31] <shriphani> !ruby-header
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ruby-header - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <godtvisken> soundray: ok, but how would i fix the permissions of my homedrive in general?
[02:32] <jmazaredo> !initramfs
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <IcemanV9> !ruby | shriphani
[02:32] <AlTheHuman> soundray: Not sure what you mean. I've used Linux, Windows and Mac OS X clients with the same results.
[02:32] <ubotu> shriphani: ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:32] <upd> hi
[02:33] <upd> how can i unrar 7z
[02:33] <shriphani> IcemanV9: i am on dapper
[02:33] <soundray> godtvisken: have you followed my suggestion regarding .dmrc, and did that not fix it?
[02:33] <gradin> q
[02:33] <shriphani> i am compiling amarok and it says i am missing ruby header files
[02:33] <soundray> AlTheHuman: I'm talking about the server. Does it run the ubuntu desktop?
[02:33] <abasinisvacant> IcemanV9, what if i don't do any backports? could i still upgrade? how long does it take? will my files be all deleted?
[02:33] <IcemanV9> shriphani: same as dapper, too. (i just checked with ubotu :)
[02:34] <soundray> AlTheHuman: or to put the question differently, how are you starting the VNC server?
[02:34] <Jake333> hi
[02:34] <abasinisvacant> what's better, edgy or dapper?
[02:34] <soundray> !best | abasinisvacant
[02:34] <ubotu> abasinisvacant: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:34] <AlTheHuman> soundray: Yes. Like I said, I have it configured for xinitd, per the tutorial. It shows the Gnome remote logon screen, accepts my credentials and then whammo.
[02:34] <soundray> !lts | abasinisvacant
[02:34] <ubotu> abasinisvacant: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[02:34] <shriphani> IcemanV9: i installed the package through apt
[02:34] <abasinisvacant> i was expecting some answer like that..
[02:34] <shriphani> but amarok says i am missing header files
[02:35] <marx2k__> Will Fiesty be LTS?
[02:35] <marx2k__> I mean, whats going to be LTS after Dapper?
[02:35] <gavintlgold> edgy, i'd think
[02:35] <gavintlgold> i have no idea though
[02:35] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:35] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: it's up to you. you can upgrade to dapper (then to edgy if you want). i don't remember how long it takes. it should not delete any files, but it might in some cases. (better to play safe then sorry)
[02:35] <superkirbyartist> Thank you  lot for your support everyone!
[02:36] <Jake333> anyone who can help install nvidia driver for 7300 gt
[02:36] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: fwiw, i'm on dapper
[02:36] <Jake333> pm me
[02:36] <IcemanV9> shriphani: that is fine. apt works.
[02:36] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9, couldn't i upgrade straight to edgy?   i ask what's better because i don't know the difference between the two
[02:36] <marx2k__> the only reason Id want to upgrade through the releases is the new kernels
[02:36] <soundray> AlTheHuman: there should be a log file on the server by the name of hostname:1.log that should tell you why it's crashing
[02:36] <shriphani> IcemanV9: it doesnt seem to have installed the headers
[02:37] <soundray> AlTheHuman: or hostname.0.log if there's no other X server running
[02:37] <crdlb> abasinisvacant, if you do not want to upgrade every 6 months, then go to dapper
[02:37] <marx2k__> wow... that was a nasty pot of oatmeal :(
[02:37] <IcemanV9> abasinisvacant: nope. it doesn't work that way. too many problems. it's better to upgrade to dapper first, then edgy.
[02:37] <AlTheHuman> That's the kind of hint I'm looking for. Where do I look for the log?
[02:37] <IcemanV9> shriphani: check the log to make sure.
[02:37] <timfrost> shriphani: try ruby1.8-dev (replace 1.8 with the version of ruby you need to build amarok against).
[02:38] <shriphani> ok
[02:38] <abasinisvacant> icemanv9 or crdlb:  all i have to do is type something in the terminal for it to start upgrading to dapper?
[02:38] <Jake333>  anyone know how to install nvidia driver on 6.10
[02:38] <godtvisken> soundray: i still get the same error
[02:38] <godtvisken> Here is my error exactly:
[02:38] <soundray> AlTheHuman: I only run vncserver as user, and the log ends up in $HOME/.vnc/ -- don't know how you've set it up but I would look under /var/log/
[02:38] <godtvisken> User's $HOME/.dmrc is being ignored. File should be owned by user and
[02:38] <godtvisken> have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by the user
[02:38] <godtvisken> and not be writable by other users.
[02:38] <soundray> godtvisken: don't paste errors here please
[02:38] <godtvisken> soundray: ok, sorry
[02:38] <gavintlgold> jake333 : i used the envy script, but some folks might not like that... (they don't trust scripts)... worked fine for me
[02:38] <IcemanV9> !upgrade | abasinisvacant
[02:38] <ubotu> abasinisvacant: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:39] <Dr0b> you know what....i think ill just stick with windows ;-)
[02:39] <timfrost> godtvisken: what does 'ls -ld $HOME' report?
[02:39] <AlTheHuman> soundray: It's not there, but now that I know what I'm looking for I'll go exploring again. Thanks!
[02:39] <soundray> godtvisken: what are the permissions on $HOME? Check with 'ls -ld $HOME' and only paste the first 10 characters
[02:39] <shriphani> i would like to make a small point here. i have noticed that dapper's packages are slightly outdated
[02:39] <godtvisken> soundray, timfrost: drwxrwxrwx
[02:40] <soundray> AlTheHuman: 'sudo updatedb ; locate hostname | grep log' may help
[02:40] <atarinox> !samba
[02:40] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:40] <giod> how do i log into gnome with root account so i have sudo access all the time
[02:40] <IcemanV9> shriphani: check with backports
[02:40] <gavintlgold> jake333 : you can google it if you want to try it... "envy nvidia" would show the page for it
[02:40] <AlTheHuman> soundray: Thanks again; I'm off.
[02:40] <soundray> godtvisken: okay, do a 'sudo chmod og-w $HOME'
[02:40] <Jake333> ok
[02:41] <Jake333> ill do that
[02:41] <giod> how do i log into gnome with root account so i have sudo access all the time
[02:41] <godtvisken> soundray: ok, done. thanks. i'll test it
[02:41] <giod> please i need help
[02:41] <shriphani> IcemanV9: no not associated with ruby. in general edgy has more up to date versions of  apps like amarok and so on
[02:41] <soundray> giod: don't do this please because it is very bad security practice
[02:42] <tm4> giod
[02:42] <tm4> its not a good idea to stay logged in as root
[02:42] <soundray> giod: log in normally and get a root shell by running 'sudo -i' in the terminal. You can also create a panel launcher that runs 'gksudo gnome-terminal'
[02:43] <giod> soundray, i need to so i can set up my server after its set up i will never go in agian
[02:43] <ayyub> How do I create a new keyboard layout?
[02:43] <giod> but i want to do it visually not in shell
[02:43] <IcemanV9> shriphani: ok. well. either upgrade to edgy or try to figure it out why it is not installed correctly
[02:43] <shriphani> heh i am on dialup
[02:43] <phr0z3n> ayyub, try Application>Character Layout
[02:43] <soundray> giod: you can run GUI programs with gksudo, or launch them from the gksudo'ed terminal window
[02:44] <Jake333> gok
[02:44] <Jake333> ok
[02:44] <Jake333> so will envy be fast
[02:44] <Jake333> i need fast lol
[02:44] <Jake333> very
[02:44] <phr0z3n> Ah.. listen to soundray... I just started using ubuntu.
[02:44] <gavintlgold> as in installation, jake333?
[02:44] <phr0z3n> Been using FreeBSD and Windows.
[02:45] <Jake333> as in a whole
[02:45] <godtvisken> soundray: thanks, it worked
[02:45] <gavintlgold> well, it uses the proprietary drivers, jake333
[02:45] <giod> soundray, is their a way on dapper to login as root i know how to do it on edgy but my servers running dapper
[02:45] <gavintlgold> and they are really nice drivers
[02:45] <Jake333> can we talk pm?
[02:45] <ayyub> Okay.
[02:45] <soundray> godtvisken: well done. How did it get messed up? I'm asking because it might have made more unwelcome changes...
[02:45] <gavintlgold> i'm kinda new to xchat... how do you do that jake333?
[02:45] <Jake333> lol
[02:45] <gavintlgold> i mean freenode
[02:46] <Jake333> thats surprising
[02:46] <marx2k__> you have t register befoire sending a pm
[02:46] <gavintlgold> and how, marx2k__ ?
[02:46] <godtvisken> soundray: well, i was trying to change something else, and accidentally did `chown -R jason /home/jason/`
[02:46] <atarinox> so i have a question which may be dumb...once i get everything setup in samba, what program do i use to view the shared files on my network
[02:46] <giod> soundray, ill take all the blame if some thing bad happens just tell me please
[02:46] <gavintlgold> i should know this, for future reference
[02:46] <minus198> Hi..
[02:46] <marx2k__> gavintlgold, beats me.. Im not interesting in pm'ing people :) Im sure if you read the server messages, it will tell you
[02:47] <minus198> I need help
[02:47] <soundray> giod: you can unlock root with 'sudo passwd', but, again, I do not recommend this. You will also have to change the gdm config via System-Administration-Login Window to allow root login
[02:47] <tensor> hello, anyone know of a good how-to on chroot-ing apache2 on ubuntu?
[02:47] <gavintlgold> hold on jake333
[02:47] <Jake333> ok
[02:47] <Jake333> i pmed u
[02:47] <marx2k__> atarinox, once it's set up, you will be able to see it like it was a directory
[02:47] <minus198> I cant get  to look right in Irssi
[02:47] <nexous> How do I install my .pcf fonts?
[02:47] <soundray> giod: but PLEASE lock your root account again with 'sudo passwd -l' after you're done
[02:47] <linux_user400354> does the ubuntu kernel have raid support builtin to it?
[02:48] <minus198> I dont like that guy 'peer'
[02:48] <minus198> he's evil..
[02:48] <minus198> ^^
[02:48] <soundray> godtvisken: that shouldn't have changed the permissions in this way, though. You must have done something else.
[02:48] <giod> soundray, thanks
[02:48] <giod> and i will
[02:48] <jmichaelx> the mistake i made (i think) was going into adept, telling it to uninstall sun-java5-*, and then telling it to install sun-java6-*
[02:48] <soundray> giod :)
[02:49] <marx2k__> I like this guy beer... I think Im going to say hi to him... brb
[02:49] <nexous> How do I install my .pcf fonts?
[02:49] <posingaspopular> marx2k__: that make me lol
[02:49] <nexous> !fonts
[02:49] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:49] <godtvisken> soundray: yeah, i'll check my bash_history
[02:49] <godtvisken> soundray: what sort of thing should i look for?
[02:49] <tensor> let's try again
[02:49] <tensor> hello, anyone know of a good how-to on chroot-ing apache2 on ubuntu?
[02:49] <Jake333> god
[02:49] <Jake333> so
[02:50] <Jake333> could u show me the site
[02:50] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me how to extract debian packages?
[02:50] <soundray> godtvisken: 'history | grep chmod' :)
[02:50] <gavintlgold> getting it jake333
[02:50] <gavintlgold> i'll figure out private messages someday... hehe
[02:50] <Solarion> is anyone else seeing friefox totally kilinlg X as of today (feisty)?
[02:50] <Jake333> lol
[02:50] <Jake333> i need to get beryl
[02:50] <Jake333> installed by tonight
[02:50] <Jake333> lol
[02:50] <soundray> MatrixMon: they are archived with ar -- you can also dpkg --unpack (check man dpkg)
[02:50] <Jake333> tommoro is vmware
[02:50] <gavintlgold> i have beryl... envy worked for it
[02:51] <pavs> why by tonight?
[02:51] <godtvisken> soundray: nothing in there about my home
[02:51] <Jake333> im 15 im impatient
[02:51] <pavs> trying to impress your date?
[02:51] <conn> hi, can someone with intel integrated graphics tell me their fps in glxgears please?
[02:51] <Jake333> yea!
[02:51] <pavs> lol
[02:51] <Jake333> lol
[02:51] <soundray> godtvisken: anything you did in a sudo -i shell?
[02:51] <MatrixMon> Jake333: whats beryl?
[02:51] <shatrat> conn, glxgears is not a benchmark :(
[02:51] <chuck_> Hey.... I'm having trouble installing something with apt-get...
[02:51] <chuck_> lirc: PreDepends: dialog but it is not installable
[02:51] <pavs> !beryl
[02:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:51] <gavintlgold> ok, jake333, http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:51] <kristopher> You could prob. install beryl in the next hour.
[02:51] <gavintlgold> beryl is awesome
[02:51] <skirk> sry, which program I should use to open ISO file?????
[02:51] <conn> shatrat, I know, thanks.. but it's for a good reason
[02:52] <marx2k__> skirk, what do you want to do with the ISO?
[02:52] <marx2k__> an ISO is a disk image
[02:52] <chuck_> that output doesn't really help me too much.... does that mean I don't have dialog installed? (i'm on 6.10 kubuntu)
[02:52] <skirk> yes
[02:52] <Solarion> "Startup failed because of the following error:
[02:52] <Solarion> Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ZH6J9R8Y85: Connection refused" from epiphany
[02:52] <TheDebugger> skirk: Use mount
[02:52] <skirk> I must extract ISO
[02:52] <soundray> !iso | skirk
[02:52] <ubotu> skirk: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[02:52] <Solarion> anyone around here helping with feisty?
[02:52] <skirk> O_O
[02:52] <gavintlgold> get the stable version jake333 , (it will stop your x-server for a while... that's normal ... should work after that though. Did for me and also my friend too when we were installing beryl
[02:52] <skirk> lol ok
[02:52] <soundray> Solarion: not here, but in #ubuntu+1
[02:52] <Jake333> wow
[02:52] <Jake333> thnks
[02:53] <gavintlgold> needs to stop the xserver to install the driver i think
[02:53] <Jake333> its installed
[02:53] <FuzzyB> Is there a sparc netboot image for 6.10 ?
[02:53] <Jake333> so what do i do now tho
[02:53] <gavintlgold> for beryl?
[02:53] <Jake333> to install nvidia driver
[02:53] <gavintlgold> oh, ok i get it
[02:53] <pavs> beryl is over-rated. I installed it the same week i installed my first linux distro (ubuntu), which is a month ago. After couple of weeks, I kinda got irritated with all the fancy stuff. Its distracting when yo u are trying to get something done.IMO :)
[02:53] <detuneyourradio> hello.  anyone here pretty familiar with dpkg?  it's hanging when i try to install any packages and i'm having no luck
[02:53] <gavintlgold> type in a terminal: envy
[02:53] <Jake333> ok
[02:53] <marx2k__> I agree pavs
[02:53] <gavintlgold> i'm not sure if you need sudo or not
[02:53] <marx2k__> !envy
[02:53] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:53] <gavintlgold> try w/o first jake333
[02:54] <tunganet> anyone know how to make my nvidia geforce 5200 render better?
[02:54] <chuck_> Can anyone give me a little help with dependencies in apt-get?
[02:54] <tunganet> i currently see LINES across my screen
[02:54] <Jake333> nope i dont need it
[02:54] <Jake333> i just typed it
[02:54] <Jake333> and typed the pass
[02:54] <shatrat> tunganet, what driver are you using?
[02:54] <soundray> detuneyourradio: please paste the relevant part of the session log on the pastebin
[02:54] <Jake333> will this driver work with 7300 gt?
[02:54] <nwonknu-> sup
[02:54] <marx2k__> chuck_, : sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[02:54] <tunganet> i used envy and it installed for me
[02:54] <soundray> !pastebin | detuneyourradio
[02:54] <ubotu> detuneyourradio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:55] <gavintlgold> jake333, probably, because i have a 7600+ GT and it worked
[02:55] <pavs> sudo -s apt-get the_whole_internet_and_than_some
[02:55] <detuneyourradio> soundray, there's really no error to post, i get no error and it just hangs
[02:55] <detuneyourradio> i can show you the output if i try to install a package
[02:55] <detuneyourradio> though
[02:55] <skirk> I cant mount beaucoe shell say "You must specify filesystem"
[02:55] <Jake333> ok
[02:55] <conn> can someone please help? If you have an intel graphics card, just check your glxgears fps in two ways, a) glxgears -printfps and b) INTEL_BATCH=1 glxgears -printfps
[02:55] <soundray> detuneyourradio: no, just tell me what command line you use
[02:55] <Jake333> so do i start the install?
[02:55] <detuneyourradio> gnome terminal
[02:56] <detuneyourradio> er
[02:56] <Jake333> press 1
[02:56] <Jake333> so i do
[02:56] <gavintlgold> yeah.. it may cut out the xserver (and so xchat i think) but it will ask you very easy questions
[02:56] <Jake333> and i install
[02:56] <crdlb> skirk, use '-t vfat' or whatever the fs is
[02:56] <MatrixMon> Is there any other way to extract a deb package other than dpkg?
[02:56] <pavs> I am installing the whoole internet in my computer :)
[02:56] <Jake333> ok
[02:56] <BitNinja707> i'm having some issues with Samba...it sets the ownership of any files placed there by a client computer to "nobody" which causes some problems with what i'm trying to do (put my iTunes library on Ubuntu)
[02:56] <detuneyourradio> soundray, i just do sudo apt-get install package and i've also tried just dpkg -i package
[02:56] <soundray> chuck_: you have to describe the problem
[02:56] <BitNinja707> anyone have experience with that
[02:56] <bruenig> MatrixMon, ar x whatever.deb
[02:56] <Jake333> brb
[02:56] <BitNinja707> ?
[02:56] <detuneyourradio> but same issue
[02:56] <gavintlgold> jake333: i'm 16 and I did it.. shouldn't be too hard
[02:56] <detuneyourradio> just hangs
[02:56] <gavintlgold> ;)
[02:57] <pavs> what does ag has to do with being able to install beryl ? :)
[02:57] <stevo> hello there
[02:57] <gavintlgold> pavs: ag?
[02:57] <bruenig> !howdy | stevo
[02:57] <ubotu> stevo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:57] <pavs> age
[02:57] <soundray> detuneyourradio: Ctrl-C all dpkgs and apt-gets please and try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:57] <nwonknu-> fun
[02:57] <pavs> there is no minimum age requirement for beryl installment AFAIK
[02:57] <carson> is anyone here running ubuntu on a macbook?
[02:57] <bruenig> I would say at least 5 years old to install beryl
[02:57] <pavs> heh
[02:57] <FuzzyB> no i run os/x on my macbook
[02:57] <detuneyourradio> soundray, i've tried that as well, still hangs =/
[02:58] <chuck_> soundray: i put up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7880/ for my problem with apt-get
[02:58] <MatrixMon> Gavin: age has nothing to do with knowledge
[02:58] <marx2k__> I bet a 3 year old can do it
[02:58] <gavintlgold> breuenig: idk.... the xorg.conf part might be a bit hard
[02:58] <chuck_> care to take a look?
[02:58] <bruenig> I said at least
[02:58] <bruenig> it could be raised
[02:58] <bruenig> potentially
[02:58] <gavintlgold> lol
[02:58] <stevo> i've just been introduced to the world of linux and im diggin it
[02:58] <detuneyourradio> soundray, i get this error as well but i've had it for a while and never made dpkg hang: dpkg: serious warning: files list for package 'xserver-xorg-video-vmware' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[02:58] <FuzzyB> if you like linux so much you should try anal sex
[02:58] <gavintlgold> stevo: yep, linux is cool alright
[02:58] <chuck_> lol
[02:58] <lightrush> any1 can tell if 6.10 is gonna upgrade gradually to become 7.04 or the upgrade will be altogether in April?
[02:59] <soundray> chuck_: what does 'sudo apt-get install dialog' give you?
[02:59] <marx2k__> chuck_, try using aptitude
[02:59] <bruenig> lightrush, altogether
[02:59] <lightrush> bruenig, omg !
[02:59] <nick_> I just installed a new DVD-RW drive, but for some reason Ubuntu does not let me burn discs with it.  It just asks me to insert a disc with X amount of free space and hit continue (it's a perfectly good blank disc).  Does anyone know what might be causing this or how to solve the problem?
[02:59] <dimeotane> can anyone tell me the difference between compiz and beryl?
[02:59] <shatrat> lightrush, it's not gradual.  6.10 is locked down for now, and when 7.04 comes out it will be locked down as well
[02:59] <stevo> try anal sex...im in college, eperimentation at its best
[02:59] <bruenig> dimeotane, #ubuntu-effects
[02:59] <stevo> i just cant spell
[02:59] <lightrush> bruenig, so the only chance to get uptodate system is either to install Herd 4 ot to wait ....
[02:59] <marx2k__> nick_, are you sure its blank??
[02:59] <chuck_> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7881/
[02:59] <pavs> stevo i think linux has been digged before, ie, http://www.digg.com/linux_unix
[02:59] <nick_> yes, marx2k__
[02:59] <bruenig> lightrush, yes
[02:59] <ubuntu> hey i have problem
[03:00] <lightrush> bruenig, I remember that it was gradual upgrade with Dapper to Edgy
[03:00] <dimeotane> I thought they were the same but feisty is going to have compiz installed not beryl
[03:00] <bruenig> lightrush, no you don't
[03:00] <chuck_> !aptitude
[03:00] <nexous> How do I install .pcf fonts?
[03:00] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[03:00] <nick_> I installed the drive after linux was already up and running, so i dont know if i need to do any additional configuration.
[03:00] <ubuntu> bruenig i install WIndows VIsta and now i can't boot UBuntu
[03:00] <gavintlgold> dimeotane: beryl is updated a lot, but compiz is considered "more stable?" i think...
[03:00] <bruenig> !grub | ubuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:00] <marx2k__> chuck, instead of typing apt-get, type aptitude :)
[03:00] <ubuntu> how can i return the grub
[03:00] <bruenig> apt-get > aptitude
[03:00] <dimeotane> gavintlgold: do they basically look the same and do the same thing then?
[03:00] <nick_> Can i make it redetect my CD drives like it did during installation?
[03:00] <lightrush> bruenig, what will happen ig I replace my sources with Feisty ones?
[03:00] <pavs> !aptitude
[03:00] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[03:00] <Jake333> hi god...
[03:00] <Jake333> im back
[03:00] <gavintlgold> dimeotane: but edgy isn't going to come with beryl or compiz, right? I heard that on the linux action show
[03:01] <Jake333> or gavin gold
[03:01] <gavintlgold> they changed their minds
[03:01] <Jake333> thats what it is
[03:01] <bruenig> lightrush, if you do that and dist-upgrade, you will get an unstable mess
[03:01] <gavintlgold> jake333
[03:01] <atarinox> so i'm trying to setup network sharing on my windows network, can somebody clarify this sentence for me: The Windows computer name is servername, this can be either an IP address or an assigned name....does that mean the network name? something like MSHOME?
[03:01] <Jake333> i ran it
[03:01] <bruenig> lightrush, perhaps #ubuntu+1 could help you
[03:01] <Jake333> and it restarted
[03:01] <gavintlgold> worked jake333?
[03:01] <Jake333> the computer
[03:01] <Jake333> do i have to download something else too?
[03:01] <christopher> hey there - my problem: i want to write a script which asks me WHERE the file ist want to play with ogle.. does anyone here have some minutes for me to help me with this prob???
[03:01] <xerophyte_> how can i find out which package /usr/bin/mail file belongs .. with redhat i search rpm -qf /usr/bin/mail how can i find out in Ubuntu?
[03:01] <lightrush> ty
[03:01] <gavintlgold> jake333: no
[03:01] <Jake333> oh
[03:01] <gavintlgold> all installed
[03:01] <Jake333> hmm
[03:01] <bruenig> christopher, what?
[03:01] <gavintlgold> in theory
[03:01] <dimeotane> lightrush: I wouldn't do that.. I tried that with dapper and edgy... it borked my system bigtime
[03:02] <soundray> chuck_: also pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[03:02] <christopher> bruenig: do you know ogle? the dvd player?
[03:02] <timfrost> xerophyte_: dpkg -S /usr/bin/mail
[03:02] <soundray> detuneyourradio: does 'sudo apt-get update' do anything?
[03:02] <gavintlgold> dimeotane: i haven't tried compiz, but beryl is great... i would suggest it if you are thinking about it
[03:02] <bruenig> christopher, so what, you run the script it asks you where the file is, you type that, then it plays it?
[03:02] <xerophyte_> timfrost, thx
[03:02] <lightrush> dimeotane, I believe that this is what will happen but asking just theoretically
[03:02] <marx2k__> beryl is unstable
[03:02] <detuneyourradio> soundray, yup, it updates all the repos just fine, no errors
[03:02] <rich__> what is planned for the next ubuntu release?
[03:02] <chuck_> soundray: sources.list is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7882/
[03:03] <chuck_> soundray: did I comment out too many?
[03:03] <marx2k__> !fiesty
[03:03] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <rich__> it is verging on being good enough, but not quite
[03:03] <pavs> true beryl is unstable even though its updated a million times a week :)
[03:03] <ayyub> Where are Ubuntu's keyboard layouts? How do I make a new one?
[03:03] <christopher> bruenig: no, the script does not exist yet, i want to write it but i dont know how to start!
[03:03] <detuneyourradio> soundray: is there a way to force dpkg to produce an error when it's installing? i've looked through the dpkg man but i can't find anything related to that
[03:03] <christopher> bruenig: i want to use zenity to ask for the path
[03:03] <gavintlgold> pavs: beryl works superfine with almost no problems for me..... I wouldn't really call it that unstable anymore... imho
[03:03] <chuck_> detuneyourradio: can  you give it a -v for verbose when running?
[03:04] <bruenig> chuck_, here is what I would do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7883/
[03:04] <detuneyourradio> chuck_: let me try that
[03:04] <soundray> chuck_: yes, re-enable universe, do a sudo apt-get update, then you should be able to install dialog
[03:04] <chuck_> soundray: thanks, i'll give it a try
[03:04] <chuck_> bruenig: i'll take a look at that too. thx
[03:04] <soundray> detuneyourradio: also consider strace dpkg
[03:04] <bruenig> christopher, not familiar with zenity, I thought you were talking about a terminal prompt which would have been kind of weird
[03:04] <detuneyourradio> soundray: strace dpkg?
[03:04] <rich__> is it gnome holding ubuntu back?
[03:05] <soundray> detuneyourradio: yes (man strace)
[03:05] <bruenig> seeing as you could probably just do "ogle /path/to/whatever"
[03:05] <christopher> bruenig: terminal prompt would be a good beginning!!!
[03:05] <Jake333> back again
[03:05] <christopher> bruenig: but i dont know what i have to write to tell the script to ask me about the path!?!
[03:05] <Jake333> it wont like run
[03:05] <soundray> detuneyourradio: before you do strace, check if 'dpkg' by itself spits out the help message as it should
[03:05] <pavs> gavintlgold it could be my video card, but beryl is fuzzy sometimes and has the potential of freezing my system once in a while. I have seen it hapen to others on better graphics card however.
[03:06] <Jake333> want me to show u a screen shot
[03:06] <chuck_> bruenig: heh heh     that's what I did before I looked at your suggestion. thanks  =)
[03:06] <gavintlgold> pavs: do you have ati or nvidia, and do you have the proprietary drivers (and a good card)?
[03:06] <bruenig> christopher, but you can just put the path in the first place
[03:06] <detuneyourradio> soundray: just the command "dpkg" spits out the normal; just to make sure, i use strace + the normal install command right?
[03:06] <chuck_> dialog installed, and lirc is installing now. Thanks bruenig and soundray!!!
[03:07] <bigjohntoday> so here is some interesting information, on my intel board D945GZIS with SATA 250GB HD and IDE DVD ROM, ubuntu would not install, FC4 installs no problems, what do you think is the reason for ubuntu not installing?
[03:07] <pavs> ATI terrible card: radeon 200m :) I wonder if its possible to upgrade your laptop graphics card.
[03:07] <chuck_> that was way too dumb
[03:07] <Jake333> i thinkk there might be
[03:07] <gavintlgold> pavs: yeah, it's the ati drivers... not very good
[03:07] <Jake333> idk
[03:07] <marx2k__> bigjohntoday, Im going to guess its based on the fact that you havent described the issue whatsoever
[03:07] <gavintlgold> unfortunately...
[03:07] <Jake333> i need the nvidia one working
[03:07] <soundray> detuneyourradio: yes. It gives you oodles of information -- the interesting bit is to see what it hangs on
[03:07] <gavintlgold> oh, sorry jake333, didn't notice you
[03:08] <detuneyourradio> yeah i found what it hangs on
[03:08] <bigjohntoday> marx2k__ oh i have spent 3 days in here going over the problem
[03:08] <Jake333> lol its fine
[03:08] <detuneyourradio> soundray: i'll upload it to that site
[03:08] <soundray> detuneyourradio: ok
[03:08] <pavs> gavintlgold so beryl works better with nvidia?
[03:08] <nexous> Does anyone have a clue on installing .PCF fonts?
[03:08] <nick_> My problem with my DVD drive seems to be similar to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364530.  I replaced my previous CD-R drive with this DVD-R drive after ubuntu was already installed.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Is there a way to re-detect the drives?  Is this just a nautilus issue?
[03:08] <bigjohntoday> but what I basically got it down to was that PATA and JMicron were causing issues with Ubuntu because of the intel D946GZIS board
[03:08] <detuneyourradio> soundray: what was it called again?
[03:08] <gavintlgold> pavs: MUCH better
[03:08] <christopher> bruenig: okay, again, the script should ask me about the path where the CD/DVD-Iso is MOUNTED! because the path is different when the iso-name is different!
[03:08] <gavintlgold> pavs: It's flawless on my card
[03:08] <marx2k__> have you tried fiesty install?
[03:08] <soundray> detuneyourradio: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:09] <atarinox> IcemanV9: are you still around?
[03:09] <bigjohntoday> I updated the BIOS but that did not resolve anything and the only resolution to the problem was installing Fedora Core 4, Solaris X86 or AsiaNux
[03:09] <Jake333> well gold im stuck lol
[03:09] <bigjohntoday> nothing else works
[03:09] <seshomaru1234> hi -anyone has any experience with enabling active x on ie4linux?
[03:09] <gavintlgold> jake333: could you put my full name in your posts it helps
[03:09] <Jake333> ok
[03:09] <gavintlgold> thx
[03:09] <christopher> bruenig: so i want to have a script which asks me about the path that i can type it in and the program will start palying the mounted dvd
[03:09] <pavs> gavinstlgold i guess thats one more think to take notice before i buy my next comp. to make it more linux/ubuntu friendly
[03:09] <gavintlgold> pavs: yeah, beryl is awesome with nvidia
[03:10] <gavintlgold> jake333: so, what happened?
[03:10] <Jake333> Gavinlgold: well
[03:10] <gavintlgold> gavintlgold... hehe
[03:10] <marx2k__> ok so youve installed beryl
[03:10] <Jake333> Gavintlgold:
[03:10] <detuneyourradio> soundray: here is just the last part is spat out: http://past.ubuntu-nl.org/7884/
[03:10] <Jake333> uea
[03:10] <pavs> brb gotta clean the house, GF coming back tomorrow :(
[03:10] <nexous> Does anyone have a clue on installing .PCF fonts?
[03:10] <Jake333> yea*
[03:10] <marx2k__> big question is ... once youre tired of it... how do you UNinstall it
[03:10] <bruenig> christopher, um ok, well how does ogle work? can you just do "ogle /path/to/whatever"
[03:10] <gavintlgold> anyway, what won't run?
[03:10] <detuneyourradio> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7884/ **
[03:10] <gavintlgold> jake333, what won't run?
[03:11] <gavintlgold> does beryl not run jake333? or the driver
[03:11] <PFA> what permissions should my home folder have or what can i do to restore it to its default permissions?
[03:11] <christopher> bruenig: with a small parmamether phrase: ogle -u cli /path/to/whatever
[03:11] <Jake333> Gavintlgold: ok it goes to a black screen right after i run it
[03:11] <soundray> detuneyourradio: have you installed stuff from sid by any chance?
[03:11] <marx2k__> PFA: You mean ~?
[03:11] <detuneyourradio> soundray: i don't even know what sid is
[03:11] <gavintlgold> beryl, or envy? jake333
[03:11] <PFA> marx2k__: i guess?
[03:11] <Jake333> Gavintlgold:envy
[03:11] <shatrat> marx2k__, sudo apt-get remove beryl ?
[03:11] <ubuntu> !grub
[03:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:11] <marx2k__> shatrat, think its that easy?
[03:11] <gavintlgold> even if you wait a bit, nothing happens, jake333?
[03:11] <marx2k__> PFA: drwxr-xr-x 72 marx2k marx2k 8192 2007-02-27 19:53 marx2k
[03:12] <Jake333> want me to try
[03:12] <ubuntu> bruenig i try the first option and it won work
[03:12] <shatrat> marx2k__, why wouldnt it be
[03:12] <bigjohntoday> soundray: I am not sure if you remember our conversation from 3 days ago about the /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off""" issue when installing ubuntu on duo core intel technology
[03:12] <soundray> detuneyourradio: sid is the kid in Toy Story who breaks toys (it's also the unstable branch of Debian)
[03:12] <Jake333> it lets me type
[03:12] <ubuntu> I have INstalled VIsta
[03:12] <marx2k__> shatrat, I think it might be a little more involved
[03:12] <soundray> bigjohntoday: oh yeah, have you solved that?
[03:12] <bruenig> christopher, look at this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7885/
[03:12] <ubuntu> maybe it lock the partition
[03:12] <bigjohntoday> soundray: i have figured out the issue and their is only one of a few ways of solving it
[03:12] <shatrat> marx2k__, doubtful
[03:12] <gavintlgold> jake333: do you log in, and then type?
[03:12] <soundray> detuneyourradio: have you used automatix on your system?
[03:12] <bigjohntoday> soundray gimme a few seconds to type the various methods
[03:12] <Jake333> Gavintlgold: yea and then i type 1
[03:12] <PFA> marx2k__: umm... can you give me an actual command to change this?
[03:12] <marx2k__> I did remove beryl at some point and I couldve swore it was more than a single line uninstall
[03:12] <Jake333> Gavintlgold: and it goes black
[03:13] <soundray> bigjohntoday: please use pastebin if you don't mind (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/)
[03:13] <Jake333> Gavintlgold: and i see a under score _ and that s it
[03:13] <marx2k__> PFA: Im bad at modes :)
[03:13] <Jake333> do i have to be in root or sumthin?
[03:13] <detuneyourradio> soundray: ah alright. no i haven't.  and no i don't use automatix.  the last things i installed according to the dpkg log were .. h/o
[03:13] <shatrat> marx2k__, you can do a sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of its unused dependencies, and you can rm ~/.beryl to get rid of its settings if you desperately need those kb of hard drive space
[03:13] <christopher> bruenig: GREAT. ill test it now and give you an feedback! thanks first of all
[03:13] <gavintlgold> jake333: do you want to go to the #beryl irc? almost nothing is happening there, and it might be easier to 'hear' over this 'din'
[03:13] <PFA> marx2k__: thanks anyway :/
[03:13] <gavintlgold> jake333: most likely root
[03:13] <Jake333> Gavintlgold: yes
[03:13] <Jake333> lets go
[03:14] <gavintlgold> ok
[03:14] <marx2k__> shatrat, then maybe I was doing something odd when I did it
[03:14] <marx2k__> *shrug*
[03:14] <nexous> Does anyone have a clue on installing .PCF fonts?
[03:14] <ducky1436> hi all, I just installed the 64-bit edgy eft. Everything seems to be working fine, but the gnome-volume-management doesn't seem to be working because the computer doesn't detect any cds I insert or usb drives I attach. Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:14] <tempun> hi all, i am getting message from syslogd@this.system come though the various ssh terminals i have to other systems. is this a recogninsed problem? i couldn't find it
[03:14] <detuneyourradio> soundray: looks just like some regular updates, ekiga and slocate?
[03:15] <bigjohntoday> soundray: sure I will try to make it somewhat followable!
[03:15] <detuneyourradio> soundray: before that i installed beryl and xgl packages in attempts to that those works, heh.
[03:15] <soundray> detuneyourradio: have you any idea what gstreamer-0.8-sid might be?
[03:15] <detuneyourradio> no
[03:15] <detuneyourradio> i'm pretty sure i'm on
[03:15] <marx2k__> so whats a good ATI-based desktop enhancement?
[03:15] <marx2k__> or is there not one? :)
[03:15] <detuneyourradio> soundray: i don't ... is it safe to remove it?  i think i may be on a newer version of gstreamer as well
[03:15] <jlgaddis> marx2k__: Compiz/Beryl
[03:16] <marx2k__> Compiz/Beryl is for NVidia I thought?
[03:16] <PFA> what permissions should my home folder have or what command can i use to restore it to its default permissions?
[03:16] <detuneyourradio> soundray: yeah i have all the 0.10 gstreamers installed
[03:16] <soundray> detuneyourradio: I would think it's safe, but I don't believe you'll be able to because of the same problem
[03:16] <detuneyourradio> hm ok
[03:17] <detuneyourradio> soundray: yup, you're right .. hangs when i try to remove it
[03:17] <shatrat> marx2k__, nothing is graphics card specific.  the thing is, ATI sucks at writing drivers so most people who use beryl and compiz use nvidia or intel or older ATI cards with open source drivers.
[03:17] <detuneyourradio> is there a way to safely remove it manually?
[03:17] <tempun> PFA: this is mine ... drwxr-xr-x 47 ben ben 2.3K 2007-02-28 11:32 ben
[03:17] <marx2k__> I wonder if my ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon will work
[03:17] <PFA> tempun: but how can i change it to that!!!
[03:17] <nexous> Does anyone have a clue on installing .PCF fonts?
[03:17] <roldan> ambot
[03:17] <jlgaddis> PFA: At $home I set mine to 700, but that's a personal preference.  At $work, they're 750.
[03:17] <tempun> PFA: h/o
[03:18] <marx2k__> !pcf
[03:18] <christopher> bruenig: its very late... i did "sudo chmod +x ogledvd" but when i type it into the prompt i get a failure?!
[03:18] <jlgaddis> PFA: chmod 755 ~
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <PFA> jlgaddis: thank you
[03:18] <rbil_> marx2k__: I'd guess that with the oss radeon driver it will work
[03:18] <roldan> whaaat
[03:18] <marx2k__> maybe I will give it a shot
[03:18] <tempun> PFA: chmod 755 ~
[03:18] <bruenig> christopher, where did you put ogledvd?
[03:18] <marx2k__> !beryl
[03:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:18] <tempun> ah some beat me 8-(
[03:18] <roldan> hi im from phillipines
[03:18] <PFA> tempun: thanks
[03:18] <christopher> bruenig: home
[03:18] <R3MiX> anybody have the CUPS driver for the lexmark Z810?
[03:18] <ducky1436> hi all, I just installed the 64-bit edgy eft. Everything seems to be working fine, but the gnome-volume-management doesn't seem to be working because the computer doesn't detect any cd's or usb drives I attach. Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:19] <bruenig> christopher, if it isn't in the PATH, then you will need to be in the same directory of it and do ./ogledvd
[03:19] <tempun> my connection has been throttled back to 64kbps, lag plus
[03:19] <soundray> detuneyourradio: do a ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/gstreamer0.8-sid.list pls
[03:19] <DrZeus_> hi all.  I screwed up my .bashrc file and now I dont see the prompt.  Does anybody knows a way for fixing that, or getting a standard bashrc file for getting that fixed?
[03:19] <christopher> bruenig: mkay, ill try
[03:19] <bruenig> christopher, if you just want it to run with ogledvd, it will need to be in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[03:19] <shatrat> DrZeus_, is there a .bashrc~ file in your home?
[03:19] <detuneyourradio> soundray: it's there
[03:20] <DrZeus_> shatrat: let me check
[03:20] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: "cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~" to restore it to the original
[03:20] <tunganet> my nvideo renders very slow!
[03:20] <DrZeus_> jlgaddis: is that a command?
[03:20] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: Yes.
[03:20] <bruenig> christopher, I was thinking, if you are just going to use this for dvd, then you can figure out where the dvd is at /media/cdrom0 or wherever it is, and you can set it up to automatically launch whatever is mounted in there without prompting you for the path
[03:20] <soundray> detuneyourradio: can you try moving it to another directory and see if strace dpkg still hangs ins the same place
[03:21] <detuneyourradio> soundray: sure, one sec
[03:21] <soundray> s/ins/in/
[03:21] <DrZeus_> jlgaddis: oh man thanx
[03:21] <DrZeus_> shatrat: thnx too my friend
[03:21] <bigjohntoday> soundray: It has been added
[03:21] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: Heh, no problem.
[03:21] <DrZeus_> jlgaddis: I just wanted to hide the directory root from the prompt
[03:21] <tempun> how do i disable kernel irq disabling on ubuntu edgy?
[03:22] <DrZeus_> and from the window title
[03:22] <tarelerulz> I don't have working cd rom drive So how would I install ubuntu? I do 4g usb hard drive .
[03:22] <threeonefour_> is the a windows program so i can read my linux partitions
[03:22] <christopher> bruenig: okay, thanks a lot!!!!
[03:22] <bruenig> christopher, ok well where is it?
[03:22] <DrZeus_> Im trying to code a command for hiding the terminal window
[03:22] <shatrat> !install | tarelerulz I believe you will find some other methods listed here.
[03:22] <ubotu> tarelerulz I believe you will find some other methods listed here.: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:22] <tarelerulz> three is a program that can read ext3
[03:22] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: Like instead of "jlgaddis@jlgaddis-ubuntu:/home$", you just want "jlgaddis@jlgaddis-ubuntu$" or some such?
[03:22] <christopher> bruenig: where is what?
[03:22] <DrZeus_> jlgaddis: yes
[03:22] <DrZeus_> just that
[03:22] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: One sec.
[03:22] <nexous> Does anyone have a clue on installing .PCF fonts?
[03:22] <shatrat> threeonefour_, fs-driver.org
[03:22] <bruenig> christopher, where does the dvd mount?
[03:23] <soundray> bigjohntoday: a SATA vs PATA conflict? I'm amazed...
[03:23] <DrZeus_> I figured out how to get it in the prompt; but in the window tite seems not to be working
[03:23] <tarelerulz> Ext2IFS_1_10c is the name
[03:23] <giod> is there a way to set ubuntu to run a peice of code like every 5 minuets
[03:23] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: The PS1 environment variable controls what your prompt looks like.
[03:23] <bigjohntoday> something to do with the board I have
[03:23] <christopher> bruenig: it mounts on /media/nameoftheiso  because i use a nautilus script
[03:23] <jlgaddis> giod: Yes, make a cronjob for it.
[03:23] <giod> how do i do that
[03:23] <detuneyourradio> soundray: it stopped hanging, asked me to do a dpkg --configure -a, proceeding with that ...
[03:23] <not_a_k> i'm sick of fighting ati and nvidia drivers over the past years. can anyone reccommend a video card that will just work? Especially with dual head support? I just want to be able to say "Xinerama On" and have it automagically function
[03:24] <bruenig> christopher, there isn't anything else in that directory is there?
[03:24] <bigjohntoday> soundray: it just keeps on erroring out on ubuntu and finally gives up, so I sent an email to Intel about that board I am waiting to see their reply
[03:24] <jlgaddis> giod: "man 5 crontab"
[03:24] <detuneyourradio> soundray: it works now!
[03:24] <DrZeus_> jlgaddis: yes; i managed to get it in the prompt
[03:24] <DrZeus_> but it keeps showing in the window title
[03:24] <soweto76> not_a_k, me 2
[03:24] <soundray> bigjohntoday: thanks for taking the trouble. One thing you could also do is to file a wishlist bug on launchpad for a workaround.
[03:24] <soundray> detuneyourradio: well done!
[03:24] <nexous> Does anyone have a clue on installing .PCF fonts?
[03:24] <detuneyourradio> soundray: thanks so very much for the help
[03:24] <christopher> bruenig: theres also cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy floppy0
[03:25] <threeonefour_> shatrat, thats awesome
[03:25] <shatrat> not_a_k, the nvidia drivers are pretty good lately in my experience.  Intel is supposed to be coming out with a PCI-E card sometime in the future but that could be never.
[03:25] <detuneyourradio> soundray: it is greatly appreciated
[03:25] <christopher> bruenig: i have ubuntu edgy
[03:25] <threeonefour_> shatrat, thanks
[03:25] <soundray> detuneyourradio: you might still have trouble when you try to uninstall the gstreamer-0.8* packages
[03:25] <shatrat> threeonefour_, no problem.
[03:25] <rbil_> nexous: I've never added pcf fonts, but this page describes how to do it ... http://osr507doc.sco.com/en/GECG/X_Font_ProcAddFn.html
[03:25] <detuneyourradio> soundray: alright, i'll work on that later, i've got a test to study for ...
[03:25] <bruenig> christopher, and you are sure it just mounts in /media/ not in one of those subdirectories, by default it will mount in /media/cdrom(something) unless you changed it
[03:25] <detuneyourradio> soundray: i may be able to figure that part out myself anyway
[03:25] <soundray> detuneyourradio: but having gone through this, you know a couple of tricks to deal with it
[03:25] <jlgaddis> DrZeus_: Not sure on how to get it out of the titlebar, sorry.
[03:25] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6  /mnt/root/boot
[03:25] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /mnt/root/boot does not exist
[03:25] <shatrat> not_a_k, if you get an older radeon 9250 it should work quite well with the open source drivers, but of course thats AGP only and the performance will be a little weak in games.
[03:25] <detuneyourradio> soundray: yup ;)
[03:25] <bigjohntoday> soundray: well I am outta here maybe I will do that next day but thanks to all of you for your help
[03:25] <nexous> rbil_: thanks.
[03:26] <soundray> :)
[03:26] <ubuntu> hey that is this error it say that is mount good.
[03:26] <threeonefour_> shatrat, are you familiure with fiesty
[03:26] <jlgaddis> My 3.5 year old Nvidia card runs wonderfully.
[03:26] <timfrost> DrZeus_: for gnome terminal, adjust PROMPT_COMMAND.  For example ' PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033] 0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: \007"' to get user and host without the directory.
[03:26] <shatrat> threeonefour_, no, it's not released yet.
[03:26] <soundray> bigjohntoday: okay. Bye!
[03:26] <jlgaddis> As does the three month old one.
[03:26] <htaccess> is there a web based package search for ubuntu like debian provides
[03:26] <facugaich> Ubugtu, you have to create that dir first
[03:26] <facugaich> ubuntu, you have to create that dir first
[03:26] <tunganet> anyone know why my Gefoce fx5200 renders like crap in games?
[03:27] <timfrost> htaccess: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:27] <soundray> detuneyourradio: good luck with your test. I've just passed my final one ever ;)
[03:27] <kos-mos> hey, I am new to linux and I am trying to setup beryl. I have it installed, I don't know if I did it correctly but... my system specs should be able to handle it, although when beryl manager is running and I try to switch over to beryl window manager it starts up then switches back to metacity
[03:27] <ubuntu> facugaich what ???
[03:27] <DrZeus_> timfrost: hows that?
[03:27] <shatrat> tunganet, because its just about the worst card nvidia has ever made.
[03:27] <not_a_k> shatrat: I've been using hand me downs from friends. I'm using a radeon 9600 at the moment... I tried repacing an oldish geforce
[03:27] <htaccess> timfrost: thanks
[03:27] <tunganet> but it doesnt render as good as it does in windows?
[03:27] <tarelerulz> I don't have floppy drive and I don't have working cd rom drive ,but I do have usb hard drive wiht 4 gb of space . Can anyone help me
[03:27] <jlgaddis> kos-mos: Open up a terminal, run "beryl-manager" and see what errors it's spitting out.
[03:27] <not_a_k> shatrat: maybe I should try the open source drivers anyway
[03:27] <christopher> bruenig: the nautilus script creats a new directory in /media which is called like the *.iso so when the dvd i mounted was called test.iso then it would be at /media/test.iso -> that would be the mount point
[03:27] <threeonefour_> shatrat, k thx i am trying that alpha software for ubuntu to install to windows
[03:28] <billy> howdy y'all
[03:28] <shatrat> threeonefour_, that sounds terrible, but it's your hard drive.
[03:28] <christopher> bruenig: it is always an iso-file i want to play!!!
[03:28] <facugaich> ubuntu, I was just saying that that error means the dir does not exist
[03:28] <bruenig> christopher, well something as simple as this should do it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7887/
[03:28] <DrZeus_> timfrost: thats in the .bashrc file right?
[03:28] <ubuntu> mount: /dev/hda6 already mounted or /mnt/root busy
[03:28] <ubuntu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda6 is already mounted on /mnt/root
[03:28] <ubuntu> pfuuuuuuuuuuuuu hey
[03:28] <ubuntu> look this
[03:28] <kos-mos> No compisite extension is what it says
[03:28] <shatrat> not_a_k, the open source driver is supposed to work with 9600s, but its not as well documented as the 8500-9250s so you might have problems.  It's worth a try though, the proprietary ATI drivers are all kinds of bad
[03:28] <threeonefour_> shatrat, i need windows for my guitar programs  they crash when i try to wine them
[03:28] <soundray> bruenig: I like your use of the pastebin for therapy ;)
[03:29] <ubuntu> and now look that root@ubuntu:/# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6 /mnt/root/boot
[03:29] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /mnt/root/boot does not exist
[03:29] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:/# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6 /mnt/root
[03:29] <christopher> bruenig: urgh...thats it i guess... one moment
[03:29] <billy> recommendations for a file browser?
[03:29] <jlgaddis> kos-mos: If you run "grep omposite /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal, does it show anything or just go back to a prompt.
[03:29] <shatrat> threeonefour_, so dual boot, you shouldnt be messing with alpha software if youre a beginner
[03:29] <jlgaddis> billy: nautilus?  :P
[03:29] <timfrost> DrZeus_: Yes.  That should be in .bashrc.
[03:29] <abcdef> does anyone in here has 24 inches LCD?
[03:29] <kos-mos> just goes back to terminal
[03:29] <ubuntu> i put the command like they said in the web page and it give me error,what happend with UBUntu
[03:30] <HSBC> hello
[03:30] <godtvisken> soundray: what is sudo -i ?
[03:30] <billy> jlgaddis: i'd like to have a quick launcher in my panel, instead of having to go to "Places" everytime.
[03:30] <tarelerulz> make you have root powers
[03:30] <soundray> godtvisken: gets you a shell with admin privileges
[03:30] <jlgaddis> kos-mos: Okay, you need to add a small bit to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  I'll PM you a few lines, just add them to the end of it and restart X.
[03:30] <bruenig> we only take dinars
[03:30] <HSBC> nah i wish i had the authority :)
[03:30] <kos-mos> ok.
[03:30] <HSBC> they are contributing to global warming tho
[03:30] <threeonefour_> shatrat, i just want to try it you know   and if this causes my windows to completly get screwed i don't care is a 6GB Hd
[03:30] <HSBC> i mean ending it
[03:31] <abcdef> no one use 24 '' LCD monitor?
[03:31] <godtvisken> soundray: hm, no, then
[03:31] <DrZeus_> timfrost: oh man, thank you so much
[03:31] <silwenae> abcdef: I have a dell 24" monitor
[03:31] <HSBC> bruenig:  Dinars......  how about some dinners ! im hungry man lol
[03:31] <christopher> bru
[03:31] <HSBC> anyways
[03:31] <bruenig> see because those words are similar
[03:31] <jlgaddis> HSBC: Hopefully it's not any of my money.  :P
[03:31] <godtvisken> soundray: to answer your question (if i had done anything with a sudo -i shell)
[03:31] <ubuntu> hey what happend with the problem i say
[03:31] <abcdef> silwenae, do you recommend it?
[03:31] <HSBC> whats the deal with ubuntu and freespire?
[03:31] <bruenig> there is a huge feud
[03:32] <silwenae> abcdef: I highly recommend it, it was one of the best purchases I've ever made
[03:32] <christopher> bruenig: thats it!! it is soooo simple...
[03:32] <shatrat> abcdef, I have a sceptre 20.1 that I highly recommend.
[03:32] <shatrat> abcdef, widescreen for life.
[03:32] <bruenig> christopher, you can even make a launcher out of that, just click it
[03:32] <silwenae> shatrat: I bought that same sceptre for my wife for christmas, great bang for the buck
[03:32] <soundray> godtvisken: okay... Let's assume that your system is all right now, in the absence of evidence to the contrary ;)
[03:32] <abcdef> lol, thanks guys i'll buy 24 "" :)
[03:32] <billy> how do you put a file browser launcher in the panel?
[03:33] <abcdef> is it good with game silwenae ?
[03:33] <shatrat> silwenae, I was expecting dead pixels and asbestos packing material for the price, but its really quite nice
[03:33] <HSBC> bruenig:  Between shuttleworth and Robertson
[03:33] <HSBC> ?
[03:33] <christopher> bruenig: i did,and he has got a new symbol ;-) can i ask you another question?
[03:33] <bruenig> billy, create custom application launcher and make the command nautilus
[03:33] <jlgaddis> I recently got a pair of ViewSonic 21" at $work, and now I've almost convinced myself I need the same thing at $home too.
[03:33] <shatrat> billy, you can just drag and drop from Places menu
[03:33] <giod> ah is there an easier way than crontab
[03:33] <godtvisken> soundray: heh, thanks. did that command you had me do apply to all files in my home directory, btw?
[03:33] <fryfrog> Is there any repos to get a later kernel for ubuntu?  I am trying to grow my raid5 array and it isn't supported in the 2.6.17 kernel (or it isn't enabled)
[03:33] <silwenae> abcdef: Yeah, it's great, it was my first LCD I ever bought, and I expected ghosting, but really haven't noticed it.  I was shocked to see UT2k4 support 1920x1080 natively in game
[03:33] <jlgaddis> giod: Crontab really is the easiest way.
[03:33] <bruenig> christopher, yeah sure
[03:33] <linux_kid> OK, every time I start VMplayer, I get into a freeze, and If I wait a half-hour, it will unfreeze and then If i type in a Window, it will cause it to close. Any Help??
[03:33] <jlgaddis> giod: Crontab is really easy once you figure it out.
[03:33] <rbil_> billy: or if you have nautilus in the main menu, just drag and drop its icon onto the panel
[03:33] <giod> jlgaddis, it looks hard
[03:33] <foznot> anyone have time to fix my wireless with prism chipset 2.5? it is a netgear 802.11b trying to use dapper
[03:34] <soundray> godtvisken: no, only to the directory itself (use -R to apply chmod or chown to all subdirectories)
, do you know when the price go down from 400 - 500?
[03:34] <abcdef> 24 inches is still expensive
[03:34] <jron> where can i report herd 4 bugs?
[03:34] <silwenae> I need help on editing an MP3 profile:  When I pull up gnome-audio-properties, i see MP3 as an existing profile.  but when I open sound juicer or banshee, it's not a profile I can choose or edit from
[03:34] <soundray> !bugs | jron
[03:34] <ubotu> jron: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:34] <shatrat> abcdef, you can get a 20.1 inch for under 200 from tigerdirect
[03:34] <jlgaddis> giod: Write your code so that it will run "unattended", say it's called "myscript.sh", you just run "crontab -e" and add a line that says "*/5 * * * * /home/username/myscript.sh"
[03:34] <giod> jlgaddis, can you help me set it up
[03:34] <silwenae> abcdef: they won't be going down soon, there is a crystal shortage in Asia right now
[03:34] <jlgaddis> giod: Save and exit and that's it.
[03:34] <Frogzoo> jron: check /usr/share/doc/herd*
[03:34] <jron> thanks
[03:34] <godtvisken> soundray: ok
[03:35] <abcdef> oh
[03:35] <MikeW> Hey guys. Any ideas when Herd5 will come out?
 i have 20.1 but i'm still not happy with it :) i need more space
[03:35] <christopher> bruenig: look at: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/23255 there are the two nautilus scripts for mounting/unmounting iso files while using the context menu.. to mount an image works perfectly, but it doesnt unmount with this script?
[03:35] <shatrat> abcdef, buy a second, run dual head :)
[03:35] <christopher> bruenig: why?
[03:35] <jron> both the livecd for 6.10 and herd 4 refuse to boot. /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:35] <ayyub> Why does Compose T H give me thorn, but Compose D H give me nothing?
[03:36] <billy> bruenig, shatrat, rbil_ : thanks.  is there a way to make it upon to / by default.
[03:36] <abcdef> shatrat, oh
[03:36] <shatrat> billy, I think if you change the command in the launcher properties to "nautilus /" it will go there
[03:36] <bruenig> christopher, I don't know, I am not a nautilus scripter
[03:36] <soundray> jron: Bigjohntoday posted this earlier about the same error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7886/
[03:37] <bruenig> I am barely a bash scripter
[03:37] <rbil_> billy: exactly as shatrat said :-)
[03:37] <billy> shatrat, rbil_ :thanks.  works perfectly.
[03:37] <bruenig> I mean I can pump out those one line scripts with the best of them
[03:37] <sashokbrest> hello
[03:37] <godtvisken> soundray: i don't know if you'll know about this, but i am trying to get an apache process (apparently under the user 'www-data' or maybe 'nobody') to write to a directory in my home drive. how may i change the permissions to allow this?
[03:37] <christopher> bruenig: but as a normal scripter - do you see a bad mistake in that script?!
[03:37] <abcdef> this channel is too busy lol!
[03:38] <bruenig> christopher, you say it is the second one?
[03:38] <billy> abcdef, sure is alot going on. :)
[03:38] <christopher> bruenig: yeah
[03:38] <francois> thats good sign
[03:38] <christopher> bruenig: the smaller one
[03:38] <kos-mos> wow, that did not work. when I tried logging on after refreshing xserver I got a colorful scrambled screen.
[03:38] <shatrat> abcdef, there is usually 900-1000 people in this channel, thats why its good to take discussions to specialized channels when possible.
[03:38] <abcdef> hehee
[03:38] <soundray> godtvisken: 'mkdir $HOME/somewhere/ ; chown jason.www-data $HOME/somewhere ; chmod 775 $HOME/somewhere'
[03:39] <abcdef> i might soon switch to ubuntu :D
[03:39] <timfrost> MikeW, ETA for Herd 5 release is Thursday (from an email in ubuntu-devel-announce dated Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:09:12 +0100).
[03:39] <MikeW> timfrost: Ah thanks! :)
[03:39] <soundray> abcdef: sorry, minimum screen size for ubuntu is 25 inch
[03:39] <soundray> SCNR
[03:39] <abcdef> cool
[03:39] <abcdef> hehe
[03:40] <bruenig> christopher, the foo= seems unnecessary, I would just remove that
[03:40] <jlgaddis> kos-mos: Sorry about that, adding those lines fixed it for me.
[03:40] <ubuntu> hey see this/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:40] <ubuntu> bruenig /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:40] <christopher> bruenig: okay.. ill try!
[03:40] <rbil_> kos-mos: post your xorg.conf to pastebin
[03:41] <bruenig> christopher, and remove the ` after foo and at the end of that line
[03:41] <ubuntu> soundray: /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:41] <skirk> yo guys, which command I should use to download my SVN?
[03:41] <ubuntu> hey this web site withe the grub undelete is bad
[03:41] <ubuntu> who write it
[03:42] <bruenig> who done writed it
[03:42] <Flannel> ubuntu: which website?
[03:42] <ubuntu> bruenig no see this /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[03:42] <shooters> Any idea what this means??? Feb 27 21:41:01 localhost kernel: [17180190.168000]  CCMP: received packet without ExtIV flag from 00:11:95:05:be:5c
[03:42] <christopher> bruenig: should i remove all from foo to r00t?"    ?
[03:42] <ubuntu> Flannel https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:42] <Flannel> ubuntu: do you have IDE harddrives? or SATA ones?  And no, that website isn't bad.
[03:42] <bruenig> christopher, no just remove foo=` and then the ` at the end
[03:42] <Flannel> skirk: the program? or what?
[03:42] <kos-mos> rbil_: what do you mean pastebin o.0
[03:42] <ubuntu> Flannel:i have ide
[03:43] <christopher> bruenig: aahhh, okay!
[03:43] <skirk> the program for downoad my svn in my site
[03:43] <rbil_> kos-mos: here ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:43] <frobro> where do i get a status gui for my computer for edgy?
[03:43] <Flannel> skirk: so, the subversion client?
[03:43] <kos-mos> rbil_: ohh k
[03:43] <compu73rg33k> is there a way to turn off the scrolling of menus so that they always are fully expanded and the arrows don't show up?
[03:43] <giod> how will i know if the cron job works
[03:43] <frobro> showing computer temp and stuff?
[03:43] <ab3i> evening all. I've stumped myself and need help
[03:43] <ubuntu> Flannel: i have VIsta installed maybe it block the partition
[03:43] <skirk> w8 Flannel
[03:43] <shatrat> frobro, you mean like system monitors?  Theres superkaramba, gdesklets, conky, all sorts of widgets for that.
[03:43] <ubuntu> Flannel: the ubuntu is on separete partition
[03:43] <frobro> yup yup
[03:44] <skirk> Flannel, 1.3.2
[03:44] <kos-mos> rbil_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7888/
[03:44] <Flannel> ubuntu: GRUB and Vista don't play well with each other, I believe.  Or, last I heard anyway.
[03:44] <ab3i> running an HP laptop with a bcm4318. Ran the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool, card is recognized, sees my neighbor's network and mine. When I do iwconfig it shows it connected to my network. It refuses to connect to the internet though. Any suggestions?
[03:44] <Flannel> skirk: er, what are you asking?  You're looking for a subversion v 1.3.2 client?
[03:44] <ubuntu> Flannel: and this mean that i can't recover it.
[03:44] <jron> soundray, that is a pretty f'ed up bug to exist through 3 ubuntu builds... laptop users are pretty much sol. =(
[03:44] <jlgaddis> Flannel: Nah, they play together fine.
[03:45] <Flannel> ubuntu: no, It's doable, but I don't know how it all work.
[03:45] <shooters> Feb 27 21:41:01 localhost kernel: [17180190.168000]  CCMP: received packet without ExtIV flag from 00:11:95:05:be:5c - My logs are filled with this message, what does it mean and how do I fix?
[03:45] <frobro> anybody get beryl to work with ubuntu yet?
[03:45] <giod> jlgaddis, how will i know if the cron job worked
[03:45] <skirk> No im looking to download link with SVN
[03:45] <jlgaddis> giod: Make it spit out an error if it doesn't, and you'll get an e-mail with any output.
[03:45] <jlgaddis> frobro: Yeah.
[03:45] <ubuntu> Flannel:  and now how i can recover it.
[03:45] <rbil_> kos-mos: hold on ... studying your file
[03:45] <nomadtw> hey i have a quick question
[03:45] <shatrat> ab3i, I used the broadcom how-to on the ubuntuforums.org and got my 4318 working easily.  network-manager-gnome helps.
[03:45] <ab3i> frobro, tried it today. it broke my xserver, then after i fixed that it just refused to load
[03:45] <nomadtw> possibly folowed by a longer question
[03:45] <kos-mos> rbil_: k =)
[03:45] <frobro> i can see the manager for it and emerald.. but it's just not going
[03:45] <christopher> bruenig: hmm... its still mounted?!
[03:45] <giod> jlgaddis, how do i do that
[03:45] <ab3i> thats what I ran through shatrat, it got my card to come up and recognize the networks, and it THINKS its connected to mine
[03:46] <ab3i> but I cant get any data through it
[03:46] <bruenig> christopher, don't know, hit the button on your drive, that should do it
[03:46] <nomadtw> question 1: why did i end up with a SMP kernel of edgy eff when i don't have an smp computer...
[03:46] <jlgaddis> giod: You write your code correctly.
[03:46] <christopher> bruenig: it is a mounted dvd iso ;-)
[03:46] <bruenig> you don't need to mount iso
[03:46] <shatrat> ab3i, I can't help you im afriad, I try to know as little as possible about wireless and I still know more than I want to.
[03:46] <bruenig> does ogle require you to mount it?
[03:46] <giod> jlgaddis, what would that code look like please
[03:46] <Flannel> skirk: ah, you'll want to "checkout" the repository, see this: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.2/index.html  more specifically: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.2/svn.tour.initial.html
[03:46] <bruenig> vlc will just play isos
[03:47] <rbil_> kos-mos: wait for all instructions, but here's one ...
[03:47] <jlgaddis> giod: That, of course, depends on what you want it to do.
[03:47] <rbil_> add this to Section "Device" section ...
[03:47] <rbil_> Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals"             "true"
[03:47] <jlgaddis> I wish Google Earth showed timestamps on its imagery.
[03:47] <christopher> bruenig: when i type "sudo umount /media/dvd.iso" then its unmounted but the path /media/dvd.iso still exists
[03:47] <jlgaddis> I want to find myself.  =)
[03:47] <giod> jlgaddis,save all output to a file
[03:47] <marshall> hey guys
[03:48] <bruenig> christopher, I would just throw away that script
[03:48] <marshall> anybody have the Murrine 0.5 edgy .deb?
[03:48] <christopher> bruenig: okay, it would be the best
[03:48] <bruenig> christopher, get vlc and play the iso with that or maybe ogle will play them too
[03:48] <jlgaddis> Heh, found myself, at my last apartment.
[03:49] <rbil_> kos-mos: add this to end of your xorg.conf file ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7889/
[03:49] <christopher> bruenig: okay my friend, thanks a lot for the help!!!!!!!!
[03:49] <tom47> jlgaddis: wondered where you had been hanging out lately too
[03:49] <jlgaddis> tom47: Heh, on Google Earth, I meant.  :P
[03:49] <christopher> bruenig: i ever knew that it is the right decission to change to linux, because the people are more friendly!
[03:50] <giod> jlgaddis, how would i go about writing it were it saved all output to a file
[03:50] <bruenig> well some
[03:50] <kos-mos> rbil_: ok, just tell me when you want me to start adding this stuff.
[03:50] <rbil_> kos-mos: I don't have a Section "DRI" at all and works here
[03:50] <bruenig> I mean come in here when ikonia or some of the what you might call assholes are in here and you won't get any help
[03:50] <frobro> need wireless setup for broadcom4309
[03:50] <ubuntu> !grub
[03:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:50] <rbil_> kos-mos: that's it, should work, unless there's some prob with the driver you're using
[03:51] <jlgaddis> giod: I don't mind helping you out, but I'm not going to write your scripts for you.  If you'd like to hire me or my company to do it, however, we can talk.
[03:51] <nomadtw> heh yeah i am having trouble w/ the same frobro
[03:51] <kos-mos> rbil_: I always had problems with my drivers on linux systems >.>
[03:51] <Xtreme> Hi any one help me on my Acer travel mate C300 pen writing
[03:51] <nrdb> does anyone know when the vmware-player-kernel-moudules will be done for 2.6.15.28 kernel ?
[03:51] <nomadtw> frobro: did you try linuxant driverloader?
[03:51] <shooters> frobro: with bcm43xx driver?
[03:51] <giod> jlgaddis, sorry lol but i have no money
[03:52] <frobro> anybody know how to find a gui for wireless wpa that works with Intel Broadcom 4309
[03:52] <oni-dracula> can anyone reccomend a program for ripping an audio dvd?
[03:52] <jlgaddis> frobro: NetworkManager will, once you have your wireless working.
[03:53] <Xtreme> Hellow any one here help me on C300 travel mate pen writing ?
[03:53] <kos-mos> rbil_: well I will restart xserver now and give it a try
[03:54] <texagg01> howdy all
[03:54] <ubuntu> this web site is incorrect
[03:54] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /mnt/Linux does not exist
[03:54] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mkdir /mnt/LInux
[03:54] <ubuntu> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/LInux': File exists
[03:54] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/Linux
[03:54] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /mnt/Linux does not exist
[03:54] <ubuntu> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mkdir /mnt/LInux
[03:54] <ubuntu> it say that is mounted and then is say that is not mounted.
[03:55] <ab3i> anyoen able to offer wifi support? I've got a broadcom I just set up with 43xx. Its on, its enabled, its connected to the network (according to iwconfig) its got the right channel (11) the right ssid, the right mac address for the router, everything. It only shows 1Mbit/s data rate though, and it refuses to allow me onto the network or into the router config page.
[03:55] <Xtreme> Hi Ubuntu
[03:55] <ab3i> What setting did I screw up?
[03:55] <ubuntu> Xtreme hi.
[03:55] <timfrost> ubuntu: what does 'ls -ld /mnt/Linux' show?
[03:55] <jlgaddis> ab3i: Does the interface have an IP address?
[03:55] <nomadtw> heh i can't even get my broadcom to work at all
[03:55] <Xtreme> Ubuntu I have Ascer C300 Travel Mate
[03:55] <ubuntu> ls: /mnt/Linux: No such file or directory
[03:55] <Xtreme> I need pen writing enable
[03:55] <ubuntu> timfrost ls: /mnt/Linux: No such file or directory
[03:55] <nomadtw> fuck this shit
[03:56] <ab3i> jlgaddis, it doesn't say in iwconfig, and eth0 (the wifi card) doesn't show up in ipconfig
[03:56] <shooters> Is there any way to filter messages going into the logs??? My neighbour's router is sending faulty beacons and my logs are starting to fill up with thousands of entries...
[03:56] <ab3i> but network manager is showing full signal strength on my network, and the neighbors network, so it has to be seeing SOMETHING
[03:56] <timfrost> ubuntu: what about /mnt?
[03:56] <tom47> !conduct
[03:56] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:57] <ubuntu> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 80 2007-02-28 14:44 /mnt
[03:57] <tom47> !family
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <Xtreme> Hi Tom47
[03:57] <jlgaddis> ab3i: If you run "/sbin/ifconfig eth0", does it list an IP address?
[03:57] <tom47> Xtreme: hi
[03:57] <dimeotan1> anyone know of a good website that lists/ reviews the best ubuntu packages?
[03:57] <Xtreme> can u help me on Ascer Pen writing
[03:57] <ab3i> doesn't look like it jlgaddis
[03:58] <ab3i> got a mac address, says its rx 80 packets and tx 239 packets though. so its talking atleast a little
[03:58] <jlgaddis> ab3i: As root, try running "dhclient3 eth0" and see if it can get an IP address via DHCP.
[03:58] <jlgaddis> ab3i: Maybe just "dhclient eth0", depending on what you have installed.
[03:59] <ab3i> jlgaddis, the dhclient3 returns "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
[03:59] <ab3i> send_packet: Network is down
[03:59] <ab3i> "
[03:59] <ab3i> over and over
[03:59] <Xtreme> Hello any one help me
[03:59] <kos-mos> ya.. that didnt do too much good lol. I think I installed beryl incorrectly, think you could link me to a good place with information on how to install it?
[03:59] <jlgaddis> kos-mos: http://www.beryl-project.org/ has a guide on how to install it on Ubuntu 6.10.
[03:59] <detectiveinspekt> I want to uninstall just the totem player but it requests to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well
[03:59] <rbil_> kos-mos: can you dcc me?
[03:59] <jlgaddis> kos-mos: That's what finally got me going.
[04:00] <timfrost> ubuntu: what you pasted had '/mnt/LInux' some places  and '/mnt/Linux' in others.  Linux is case-sensitive.  Try the sequence with consistent case
[04:00] <jlgaddis> ab3i: Sorry then, not sure what else to try.  Looks like the reason you can't connect to anything, though, is because you don't have an IP address on your wireless interface.
[04:00] <ab3i> gah
[04:00] <ab3i> back to XP I go
[04:00] <jron> well then, if bigjohntoday is corrent, the only way for me to install ubuntu is if i go out and buy a usb cdrom drive... that seems kinda messed up considering that his been a reported bug for almost a year now =(
[04:00] <ab3i> thanks for the attempt jlgaddis
[04:00] <kos-mos> rbil_: dcc?
[04:00] <Xtreme> Hi Jron
[04:00] <Xtreme> can u helpl me
[04:00] <ab3i> night all
[04:00] <jlgaddis> ab3i: FWIW, wireless is definitely not the easiest thing to get working in Linux.
[04:01] <jlgaddis> ab3i: Helps to be a bit of a hacker.
[04:01] <ab3i> I had ndiswrapper working on my old pavillion
[04:01] <ab3i> this pavillion wont let it work though
[04:01] <ab3i> keepws generating these really ambiguous failures
[04:01] <tom47> Xtreme maybe you will find something helpful here http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?p=36445
[04:01] <billy> does ubuntu work well on Pentium III systems?  I have a friend who wants to try it.
[04:01] <jron> yes, billy
[04:01] <Xtreme> thanks
[04:02] <billy> jron, cool.  should she stick to 6.04?
[04:02] <jron> billy: might as well do 6.10 =)
[04:02] <rbil> kos-mos: direct connection for private chat
[04:02] <tom47> billy if she can wait feisty will be available in abt 5 or 6 weks
[04:03] <rbil> kos-mos: can't do, so do a /join #kos-mos
[04:03] <frobro> any ideas for a good gui client for wpa wireless broadcom 4309?
[04:03] <billy> jron, i'm only concerned about all of her hardware: scanners, cameras, webcams, printers.  she works with a lot of multimedia.
[04:03] <shooters> frobro: NetworkManager
[04:03] <shooters> frobro: did you try it?
[04:03] <phr0z3n> billy, well.... if anyone was going to have the supported driver.. it would be Ubuntu.
[04:04] <harry> Can I install Ubuntu an an external drive which I can carry around with me? [if I accept that USB 2.0 is slower than an internal drive] 
[04:04] <phr0z3n> I have a OLD intel webcam and OLD mic working for me under Ubuntu.
[04:05] <billy> phr0z3n, that's good to know.  i want to her have a good experience with Ubuntu.  She's fairly sick of 'doze.
[04:05] <tom47> billy what software does she use?
[04:05] <phr0z3n> billy, is'nt everybody? :-P
[04:05] <atarinox> hi can somebody plz help me get access to shared folders on  this windows network?
[04:05] <atarinox> i've got samba installed, now i'm stuck
[04:06] <billy> phr0z3n, i know I was.  Still use it for working with Acid Pro and stuff though.
[04:06] <shooters> atarinox: Places->Connect To Server ...
[04:06] <MrPwnage> phr0zen: now if the commercial developers would start coming to this side, i'd be happy :P
[04:06] <MrPwnage> i've used both windows and linux for years
[04:06] <phr0z3n> MrBrizzio, time will tell.
[04:06] <MrPwnage> started with a C64, then migrated to DOS
[04:06] <MrPwnage> then to windows.
[04:06] <phr0z3n> Its already getting to PC manufactures.
[04:07] <atarinox> shooters: Places? i dont have that option anywhere
[04:07] <billy> tom47, she works alot with stuff like PhotoShop, Printshop, stuff like that.
[04:07] <shatrat> harry, its possible but I havent done it.  It might be a lot of trouble.  I know there are other distros like DSL and Knoppix which are meant to be run from removable media though, might want to look at those a swell.
[04:07] <MrPwnage> then linux has played a part in my life since around 1999
[04:07] <phr0z3n> Nice.
[04:07] <MrPwnage> but mostly a small one
[04:07] <MrPwnage> until recently
[04:07] <shooters> atarinox: In the Menu, between Applications and System
[04:07] <phr0z3n> I first used Mandrivia when I was 10.
[04:07] <MrPwnage> lol.
[04:07] <phr0z3n> *Mandriva
[04:07] <atarinox> shooters: ah, I use xfce
[04:07] <MrPwnage> Mandrake, unless you're like 12
[04:07] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:07] <MrPwnage> :)
[04:07] <phr0z3n> ..
[04:07] <phr0z3n> Actually.
[04:07] <phr0z3n> I am 12.
[04:07] <phr0z3n> lol
[04:07] <atarinox> Atom-: no option for that
[04:08] <phr0z3n> Seriously.
[04:08] <MrPwnage> i see
[04:08] <MrPwnage> then, Mandriva it is
[04:08] <atarinox> shooters: sorry, no option for that
[04:08] <shooters> atarinox: try smb://computername/sharedfolder
[04:08] <phr0z3n> Yeah, I hated it.
[04:08] <atarinox> shooters: in firefox?
[04:08] <phr0z3n> But at the same time.. Did'nt know what I was using.
[04:08] <MrPwnage> "when I was your age..."
[04:08] <phr0z3n> well.. doing.
[04:08] <MrPwnage> I was using DOS and slackware 3.1.
[04:08] <MrPwnage> :))
[04:08] <shooters> atarinox: in xcfe's 'nautilus'....
[04:08] <phr0z3n> Hah, I have a slackware 9 cd laying around.
[04:08] <MrPwnage> slackware 3.1 was miserable
[04:08] <MrPwnage> lol @ 9
[04:09] <MrPwnage> don't bother
[04:09] <phr0z3n> lol
[04:09] <MrPwnage> not on modern hardware at least
[04:09] <MrPwnage> lmfao
[04:09] <MrPwnage> 3.1 was like...
[04:09] <phr0z3n> Yeah, it is scratched up anyways.
[04:09] <jlgaddis> The A and N sets were my favorites.  =)
[04:09] <MrPwnage> there had to be like 24 in that box
[04:09] <test3> does Cingular remove your Roll-Over minutes if you don't use it for months?
[04:09] <Centaur5> Are there any programs to make training videos to teach people how to perform certain tasks in Ubuntu or perhaps is that something people have already made?
[04:09] <jlgaddis> test3: After a year or so, IIRC.
[04:10] <phr0z3n> irssi and xchat <3
[04:10] <jlgaddis> test3: That's what it used to be, but I haven't been a Cingular customer since last June, so that may have changed.
[04:10] <MrPwnage> the first linux distribution i used seriously
[04:10] <dmlk> Buenas noches Seores.
[04:10] <MrPwnage> was Caldera OpenLinux
[04:10] <MrPwnage> (this was before the SCO suit, STFU)
[04:10] <phr0z3n> I used to hate Linux.
[04:10] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:10] <MrPwnage> well it's good you're starting early with it
[04:10] <phr0z3n> I was more of a BSD user when I was 11.
[04:10] <MrPwnage> you have more free time than you ever will, so you can learn
[04:10] <MrPwnage> lmao @ "more of a BSD user when you were 11"
[04:11] <MrPwnage> damn, boy
[04:11] <phr0z3n> Yeah :-P
[04:11] <MrPwnage> i was coding in BASIC at that time, due to lack of better hardware
[04:11] <MrPwnage> seriously, i had a C64 and like, a 386
[04:11] <MrPwnage> lmao
[04:11] <atarinox> shooters: doesnt work.....where computername = IP, and sharedfolder = sharename
[04:11] <phr0z3n> jlgaddis, I get it at the time lol.
[04:11] <MrPwnage> it had a 20MB hard disk
[04:12] <MrPwnage> !!!
[04:12] <phr0z3n> Really? Man, thats some major stuff right there :-P
[04:12] <jlgaddis> phr0z3n: "Back in the day", phr0zen cr3w was a big time cracking group.
[04:12] <MrPwnage> and an amber screen until i bought a VGA card
[04:12] <MrPwnage> rofl
[04:12] <phr0z3n> jlgaddis, I know.
[04:12] <shooters> atarinox: found http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu
[04:12] <MrPwnage> amber = win
[04:12] <phr0z3n> MrBrizzio, green screen apples rocks man!
[04:12] <ubuntu> grub
[04:12] <MrPwnage> would have loved to still have that, i'd put linux on it
[04:12] <phr0z3n> woops
[04:12] <phr0z3n> my bad.
[04:12] <MrPwnage> and use it as a serial console
[04:12] <MrPwnage> <3
[04:12] <phr0z3n> Friggin tab key ~_`
[04:12] <atarinox> shooters: what?
[04:12] <ubuntu> when i write grub it give me that is on cat (hd0,2)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:12] <phr0z3n> MrPwnage, I mean.
[04:12] <archville> I still have my msx working.
[04:12] <MrPwnage> and lol @ mono apples.
[04:13] <MrPwnage> those things...
[04:13] <ubuntu> (hd0,2)
[04:13] <MrPwnage> nice games, little else
[04:13] <jlgaddis> My first computer was an SX-64.
[04:13] <jlgaddis> The "portable" C-64.
[04:13] <MrPwnage> jlgaddis: that thing was uber-leet
[04:13] <MrPwnage> i wanted one
[04:13] <MrPwnage> like so bad
[04:13] <archville> Thinking about modding it with some mini-itx-ish thing inside.
[04:13] <jlgaddis> Yeah, it's it's hugeass 5" screen?  :P
[04:13] <shooters> atarinox: look at that post....
[04:13] <pirothezerox> whats the difference between apt-get and portage/emerge? seems like its the same thing except emerge is like 5 times slower.
[04:13] <MrPwnage> it's funny because  i started with 80s computers though i started getting into them in like 1995
[04:13] <MrPwnage> :P
[04:13] <MrPwnage> due to being poor
[04:14] <MrPwnage> in 1995, most people's computers were still from the 80s though
[04:14] <phr0z3n> Dude. Cheap hardware owns!
[04:14] <MrPwnage> lol.
[04:14] <MrPwnage> celeron D here.
[04:14] <MrPwnage> FTW.
[04:14] <phr0z3n> On board W00T.
[04:14] <MrPwnage> see, it's funny
[04:14] <phr0z3n> *onboard
[04:14] <phr0z3n> I should say.
[04:14] <MrPwnage> i have a HUGE LCD
[04:14] <MrPwnage> but, like
[04:14] <MrPwnage> my PC is pure crap
[04:14] <phr0z3n> lol
[04:14] <jlgaddis> My workstation is a 4-way server.  =)
[04:14] <MrPwnage> like 19" 1440x900 eliteness
[04:14] <MrPwnage> not huge by some standards
[04:14] <MrPwnage> but by mine, it's quite big
[04:14] <jlgaddis> Of course, that's at $work, too.
[04:15] <MrPwnage> but, that LCD is $200
[04:15] <MrPwnage> whereas upgrading this thing would be more expensive
[04:15] <MrPwnage> so, i go with the LCD
[04:15] <phr0z3n> I was glad to hear that at my dads bank some of the computers move to *NIX though. Thought that was nice.
[04:15] <Frankie_> can anyone help me out? I have been dual-booting ubuntu with windows xp for a few weeks now and i re installed windows recently and now i cant dual boot anymore.  the partitions are still intact i just dont know how to get the dual boot working again.
[04:15] <MrPwnage> lol.
[04:15] <phr0z3n> I guess they got mad at everything crashing.
[04:15] <MrPwnage> Frankie_: i'm going to give you a very quick but detailed set of instructions now
[04:16] <MrPwnage> please pay attention
[04:16] <Frogzoo> !grub | Frankie_
[04:16] <ubotu> Frankie_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:16] <MrPwnage> oh
[04:16] <MrPwnage> Frogzoo, you saved me some work
[04:16] <MrPwnage> :D
[04:16] <MrPwnage> was gonna type out something similar
[04:16] <Frogzoo> MrPwnage: indeed :)
[04:16] <MrPwnage> lol
[04:16] <g0su> Hello, i have a little problem with tmpfs, i can't put the umask options. Why? http://pastebin.gulic.org/266
[04:16] <MrPwnage> o rly?
[04:16] <Frankie_> thank you mrpwnage , greatly appreciated
[04:17] <shooters> atarinox: you can always mount it through  ---> smbmount //computer/folder /mount_point
[04:17] <jlgaddis> phr0z3n: My local branch recently upgraded all their PCs and they were oh so excited.  Come to find out all they do is run a 3270 session into a mainframe anyways.
[04:17] <jlgaddis> phr0z3n: That don't even run jack on the workstations themselves.
[04:17] <jlgaddis> s/That/They/
[04:17] <phr0z3n> heh
[04:18] <billy> Is a 64-bit system better?
[04:18] <MrPwnage> no, it's irrelevant
[04:18] <phr0z3n> I dunno, but I can't believe MS demands such prices for a resource-hog chopfull of bugs OS.
[04:18] <MrPwnage> phr0z3n: lmfao, i was using vista at wal-mart
[04:18] <MrPwnage> the slowness...
[04:18] <MrPwnage> my god.
[04:18] <MrPwnage> was so slow.
[04:18] <MrPwnage> i can't even comprehend it
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:18] <MrPwnage> there's like no reason for it
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> off-topic
[04:18] <jlgaddis> My Vista box is pretty quick.
[04:18] <MatrixMon> Can anyone how to get yakuake on startup?
[04:18] <Centaur5> Imagine it on a laptop with a celeron-m and 512 ram
[04:18] <phr0z3n> Yeah, they get more of a resource hog in every new version.
[04:19] <MrPwnage> jlgaddis: i bet your computer is uber as hell though
[04:19] <jlgaddis> Vista + Office 2007 + all my other stuff and it flies.
[04:19] <CarlFK> if I am at a grub prompt, what can I enter to change the colors (of the current session) ?  current ones are hard to read
[04:19] <jlgaddis> MrPwnage: 1.86GHz Core Duo w/ 2GB.
[04:19] <MrPwnage> lmao, this box at the wal-mart
[04:19] <MrPwnage> was a K8 3200+
[04:19] <MrPwnage> with like 2GB RAM
[04:19] <MrPwnage> and a geforce 7200
[04:19] <MrPwnage> it was chugging
[04:19] <Frogzoo> g0su: umask isn't an option for tmps, but mode=1777 is - see man mount
[04:20] <jlgaddis> I have it on a 2.66GHz box here at home with 1GB.  It runs fine, I just don't get the "good" graphics because of the video card in that box.
[04:20] <MrPwnage> and, jlgaddis, you have the fastest CPU architecture on the market on the c2d
[04:20] <MrPwnage> which explains why it's running acceptably
[04:20] <jlgaddis> MrPwnage: *nod* We bought those PCs specifically for Vista, back in November.
[04:21] <archville> MatrixMon, just add it to session.
[04:21] <archville> On preferences in gnome.
[04:22] <jlgaddis> Hmm, I need a DVD burner here at $home.
[04:22] <jlgaddis> Either that or just carry an external drive back and forth to $work once a week or so.
[04:22] <jlgaddis> Hmm, an Insight person.
[04:22] <docgnome> I need to get a wireless card for one of my ubuntu clients. What is a good card that supports wpa and (preferably) is ready to go out of the box?
[04:23] <jlgaddis> docgnome: I have a WG511T that works pretty well, but I don't use it very often.
[04:23] <MatrixMon> arch do I have to give the path to Sessions?
[04:24] <jlgaddis> docgnome: Anything that's a year or so old will work better than anything brand spankin' new.
[04:24] <MatrixMon> To Yakuake
[04:24] <outsider_> salut
[04:24] <alexloveattack> anybody know a gui for wireless that works with wpa and Intel Broadcom 4309 cards?
[04:25] <yotux> anyone offer help on installing ubuntu on a laptop
[04:25] <MrPwnage> I have a D-Link DWL-G520 (atheros chipset) running via madwifi
[04:25] <alexloveattack> i've tried kwlan and NetworkManager
[04:25] <MrPwnage> fast card, works well
[04:25] <docgnome> jlgaddis: does it handle WPA?
[04:25] <MrPwnage> fat antenna for it
[04:25] <alexloveattack> no good
[04:25] <yotux> won't boot like cd
[04:25] <MrPwnage> :)
[04:25] <networkparadox> jlgaddis: I have 2 of these drives, they are cheap & quiet http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151133
[04:25] <jlgaddis> docgnome: Yeah, works great.  It's atheros-based, works with madwifi.
[04:25] <shooters> alexloveattack: why no good?, what was not working?
[04:25] <g0su> Frogzoo, thanks you, i read the man: mode=value  -> Set  the  mode  of  all  files to value & 0777 disregarding the original permissions.  Add search permission to directories that have read permission.  The value is given in octal. But i dont understand why i can't use umask and yes mode :S
[04:26] <jlgaddis> networkparadox: Thanks, I think I'll buy one actually.
[04:26] <hueblur> Hey guys, I'm running ubuntu 6.10 and I've used klick to install firefox 2.0.0.1.  How do I get the DOM Inspector?
[04:27] <alexloveattack> shooters: getting time out .. I'm using bcm4xxa through the dldrconfig program
[04:27] <jron> if anyone has a solution to this problem, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2223888#post2223888    please let me know! i'm going insane over here.
[04:27] <jlgaddis> networkparadox: Can you burn DVDs on it that'll play in a set-top DVD player, I assume?
[04:27] <Xtreme> Hi any one know any pen writing software
[04:28] <MrPwnage> Xtreme: I believe the product is called BiC, also there are various brands of "paper" that work well
[04:28] <pirothezerox> anyone here run different linux distros to try out on vmware?
[04:28] <shooters> alexloveattack: but your card works right, you can access internet?
[04:28] <Centaur5> jlgaddis: Do you have problems with the keyring manager and wpa?
[04:28] <MrPwnage> pirothezerox: pfffffffffffff i just install it native
[04:29] <docgnome> pirothezerox: I'm running Kubuntu under VMWare Fusion on my MacBook
[04:29] <alexloveattack> shooters: yep.. no.. it times out
[04:29] <MrPwnage> hahaha
[04:29] <jlgaddis> Centaur5: No.
[04:29] <pirothezerox> anyone know of a guide for it?
[04:29] <alexloveattack> shooters:  i'm having to use the wired ethernet
[04:29] <MrPwnage> VMWare is great, but how about just running the OS on bare hardware?
[04:29] <MrPwnage> so muhc more gratifying imo
[04:29] <pirothezerox> dont have the time to make and crawl out space for it
[04:29] <pirothezerox> to just play around with it for a few hours
[04:29] <hueblur> How can I install DOMi as an extension?
[04:30] <shooters> alexloveattack: so any GUI program won't work until you fix that problem...
[04:30] <MrPwnage> i mean, if i'm not using my widescreen LCD to its fullest, as well as getting the full feel of it
[04:30] <MrPwnage> i get frustrated
[04:30] <docgnome> MrPwnage: I agree, but there are times when it's useful. e.g. when you just want to play with an os.
[04:30] <hueblur> I really don't wanna fireup an XML shell
[04:30] <MrPwnage> yeah
[04:30] <MrPwnage> i don't really play with OSes too much
[04:30] <Xtreme> Hi Mrpwnage
[04:30] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:30] <Xtreme> i need tablet pen software
[04:30] <Xtreme> in ubuntu
[04:30] <alexloveattack> shooters:  i can read wifi networks, but i can't connect to one
[04:30] <docgnome> ah. heh. I have no choice in my case. I want to build an Opie devel enviroment and it evidentally doesn't work well under OS X
[04:31] <valehru> is there a reason why linux-restricted-modules-generic is being kept back during the upgrade of apt?
[04:31] <docgnome> pirothezerox: what do you mean by a guide?
[04:31] <bruenig> valehru, sudo apt-get install them
[04:31] <shooters> alexloveattack: have you tried bcm43xx driver?
[04:31] <JamesBeen> alex: which machine are you using
[04:31] <alexloveattack> shooters: ok hold on
[04:32] <valehru> urgh...I have a feeling i might have to re-compile my nvidia drivers again....le sigh
[04:32] <buitenzorg812> has anyone using fprot on the ubuntu box?
[04:32] <networkparadox> jlgaddis: it depends on the set top box most are compatible with dvd-r http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php
[04:32] <pirothezerox> docgnome, for example i know theres the winxp vmware howto in the forums, could i follow that and do it with any base install of any linux distro?
[04:33] <docgnome> pirothezerox: There realy isn't anything to it as long as you can install vmware tools.
[04:33] <buitenzorg812> and integrating it with claws?
[04:33] <jlgaddis> networkparadox: Okay, well too late now, I just bought one of 'em.  Thanks.
[04:34] <pirothezerox> alright cool
[04:34] <jlgaddis> valehru: If you do an "apt-get dist-upgrade", it'll upgrade the linux-restricted-modules-* stuff.
[04:34] <Xtreme> Hellow
[04:34] <alexloveattack> JamesBeen:  ubuntu intel pentium 4 with enlightenment windows manager
[04:35] <Xtreme> any tablet pc writing software
[04:35] <alexloveattack> JamesBeen: ubuntu edgy
[04:35] <MatrixMon> Where can I find yakuake's path?
[04:35] <Xtreme> Hi ubuntu
[04:35] <Xtreme> can u tell me any tablet pen writing software
[04:36] <bruenig> !repeat | Xtreme
[04:36] <ubotu> Xtreme: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:36] <networkparadox> jlgaddis: sorry, it will burn just about anything and for the price of a steak dinner you've little to lose
[04:36] <Xtreme> thanks
[04:37] <dink_> do kernel panics show up in /var/log/messages
[04:37] <Loc-Nar> Hello, do you guys bother running an "ident server" on Ubuntu? Which one (if any) ?
[04:37] <dink_> ?
[04:37] <jlgaddis> networkparadox: *nod*
[04:38] <R3MiX> Loc-Nar, oidentd
[04:39] <detectiveinspekt> where is the configuration file that sets what programs open what files with the extension .avi?
[04:39] <detectiveinspekt> trying to make every video use mplayer gnome won't allow setting it through properties
[04:40] <shooters> detectiveinspekt: right-click the file, select properties, then click "Open With" and select the right program
[04:40] <dimeotan1> whoah... I just read online that NTFS support works.... so ubuntu can now read and write to a NTFS partition flawlessly?
[04:40] <tunganet> omg how come my desktop does not fit ? (if i move my mouse cursor to the bottom of the screen, it will scroll down)??
[04:40] <dimeotan1> tunganet: u need to change your resolution
[04:40] <tunganet> it worked before
[04:41] <Shaniac> Hello!
[04:41] <detectiveinspekt> shooters, I try to select mplayer but it will not click, it just stays on totem
[04:41] <pseudoroot> my monitor gives a "frequency over range" error unless I disable the boot splash - help?
[04:41] <dimeotan1> tunganet: try ctrl-alt-+
[04:41] <shooters> detectiveinspekt: try with the arrows on your keyboard...
[04:41] <tunganet> doesnt do anything =\
[04:42] <dimeotan1> sometimes you can change your resolution to the correct one that way... the other thing you may want to do is edit your xorg.conf file.
[04:42] <tunganet> my games dont run smoothly with 1024 x768
[04:42] <Shaniac> what video card?
[04:42] <dimeotan1> I had to install the i915 video card driver for my dell laptop... what video card are you using?
[04:42] <tunganet> but it is good on 1152x768
[04:42] <detectiveinspekt> nope doesn't want to work
[04:42] <tunganet> geforce fx5200
[04:43] <dimeotan1> have you installed the nvidia drivers yet?
[04:43] <Shaniac> the vesa drivers are only good until you can get it set up
[04:43] <tunganet> yah i have
[04:43] <tunganet> i used envy
[04:43] <MrPwnage> tunganet:  better than mine :P
[04:43] <tunganet> my 1152x768 worked before!!!
[04:43] <shooters> detectiveinspekt: make sure you click the radio button (the round button) next to Totem... and click it a couple of times...
[04:43] <tunganet> then when i restart comp, my screen could scroll
[04:44] <dragonriot> good evening all... I was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me why my VMWare server is telling me it doesn't have enough permissions to open my windows.vmdk file?  Here's a log from VMWare so you can see exactly what is happening.. http://rafb.net/p/JxJLcN42.txt  --  I followed instructions on setting up VMWare in Ubuntu, which is why I'm asking here...
[04:45] <dragonriot> the only difference is that I used VMWare Server instead of VMWare Player.
[04:45] <jmazaredo> why i cant apt-get dnsmasq and ip masq on edgy
[04:45] <Shaniac> Lol my friend brought his wii over to my other friends house and we guessed the neighbors' wireless password.
[04:45] <jmazaredo> is there no file like dns masq and ipmasq?
[04:45] <MrPwnage> Shaniac: let me guess, the wireless router's name was something like "default" or "NETGEAR" ?\
[04:45] <dragonriot> we didn't have to guess Shaniac... my friend's neighbors are idiots and leave their networks unsecured...
[04:46] <Shaniac> lol
[04:46] <Shaniac> it was the nighbors last name
[04:46] <dragonriot> lol
[04:46] <Shaniac> and the pass was admin
[04:46] <MrPwnage> lmao
[04:46] <dragonriot> nice
[04:46] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:46] <MrPwnage> shit, no one could figure out our shit
[04:46] <Shaniac> my 2nd guess
[04:46] <MrPwnage> it would be nearly impossible
[04:46] <MrPwnage> :)
[04:47] <MrPwnage> due to the fact that we live among people who have no knowledge of "internet pop culture"
[04:47] <dragonriot> I'm limited to a 64-bit password because my wife's computer is only 802.11b
[04:47] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:47] <MrPwnage> no worries there
[04:47] <MrPwnage> not as if anyone is going to brute force your shit.
[04:47] <MrPwnage> lmao
[04:47] <dragonriot> heh
[04:47] <Shaniac> lol im going to crack your password driveby van style.
[04:47] <MrPwnage> it's a home network.
[04:47] <MrPwnage> no one cares.
[04:47] <MrPwnage> :)
[04:47] <dragonriot> indeed...
[04:47] <MrPwnage> if anyone does, it's just to hop online for a bit
[04:48] <MrPwnage> and if someone actually manages to crack my WEP key
[04:48] <MrPwnage> then by all means, they can have some internet
[04:48] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:48] <MrPwnage> lol
[04:48] <MrPwnage> i have it memorized
[04:48] <axisys> anyone know of a cool project management tool?
[04:48] <dragonriot> I am really confused about this vmware problem, and no one in #vmware is helpful...
[04:48] <docgnome> MrPwnage: heh. My wireless network shares my dialup... so if anyone manages to get in they are welcome to it ;-P
[04:48] <axisys> something that has a http interface
[04:48] <Shaniac> lol
[04:49] <MrPwnage> the whole 128-bit wep key
[04:49] <MrPwnage> it's like in my head
[04:49] <MrPwnage> is that sad or what?
[04:49] <MrPwnage> lol
[04:49] <buchan> Having some trouble booting my PPC Ubuntu, it hangs right having "Loading kernel" in yaboot. Any PowerPC users out there experts?
[04:49] <Shaniac> my little brother's friend comes over and i spend 30 minutes setting up the router so he can get in so i dont need to worry.
[04:49] <docgnome> MrPwnage: is it er... 010203... :-p
[04:49] <PFA> now that ive installed compiz ic an no longer set a desktop background, can anyone help me with this?
[04:49] <MrPwnage> no :P
[04:49] <MrPwnage> it's hex
[04:49] <MrPwnage> :)
[04:49] <MrPwnage> lol
[04:49] <MrPwnage> i don't use dictionary words :P
[04:49] <Shaniac> lol
[04:49] <Gartral> anyone know how to get a kodak easyshare one camera working?
[04:50] <MrPwnage> can't remember what the word actually is
[04:50] <MrPwnage> that i used to create said key
[04:50] <dragonriot> buchan... on irc.oftc.net #penguinslair, there are a handful of Mac users on everything from Ubuntu to SMGL...
[04:50] <Shaniac> i know my friends FTP pass
[04:50] <MrPwnage> but i use the hex to connect
[04:50] <Shaniac> the problem could be that its a PPC
[04:50] <buchan> drangonriot, thank you :)
[04:50] <MrPwnage> so therefore i am not passing words through the air
[04:50] <MrPwnage> :)
[04:50] <dragonriot> lol Shaniac
[04:50] <Gartral> anyone know how to get a kodak easyshare one camera working?
[04:50] <Shaniac> AMD for eva!
[04:50] <dragonriot> sad
[04:50] <Gartral> YEA
[04:50] <Shaniac> mein leiben for AMD!
[04:51] <dragonriot> intel for the win!!
[04:51] <Gartral> intell bytes
[04:51] <PFA> now that ive installed compiz ic an no longer set a desktop background, can anyone help me with this???
[04:51] <dragonriot> lol
[04:52] <MrPwnage> i actually used a WEP key generator on the internet
[04:52] <Gartral> heaven uses amd, intell is in hell
[04:52] <MrPwnage> ?
[04:52] <MrPwnage> problem is, intel has the fastest and most efficient CPU on the market
[04:52] <PFA> what is going ON in here?!
[04:52] <PFA> !off-topic
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <PFA> !offtopic
[04:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:52] <PFA> ^^^ GO THERE. some people want support.
[04:52] <Shaniac> Rhythm box is cool w/ the internets radio
[04:52] <Gartral> not true, they have faster clock speeds, but there lacking in front side bus
[04:52] <dragonriot> and will continue to have the fastest and most efficient proc on the market until amd comes up with an 8-core that performs as well as the quad core...
[04:52] <pseudoroot> you tell'em!
[04:53] <MrPwnage> dragonriot: word
[04:53] <Shaniac> My friend is a hardcore intel fanboy.
[04:53] <MrPwnage> lol @ fanboy
[04:53] <MrPwnage> i just look at benchmarks :)
[04:53] <Shaniac> and an Nvidia fanboy too.
[04:53] <Gartral> there are massive sync probs when using more than two cores
[04:54] <axisys> !project
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about project - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <dragonriot> !vmware
[04:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[04:54] <marx2k> heh...i tried installing beryl on my ati card and it totally b0rked gnome :(
[04:54] <Gartral> and i STILL think mac bought the barn when they switched to intel
[04:54] <axisys> looking for a project mgmt tool with web interface
[04:54] <pseudoroot> !a/s/l
[04:54] <dragonriot> marx2k... what ATI card?
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a/s/l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Shaniac> Some benchmarks actually show that SLIed NVidia cards are slower than just the single one.
[04:55] <PFA> oh for god's sake
[04:55] <PFA> this is ridiculous
[04:55] <marx2k> ati all in wonder radeon 9ooo
[04:55] <Shaniac> !rhythmbox
[04:55] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:55] <SeanTater> When fiesty is released, will upgrading from dapper to fiesty be possible..
[04:55] <Gartral> ANYWAY
[04:55] <Shaniac> doesnt play mah mp3s.
[04:55] <Discovery> hey does anyone knoe how ot get my cd card to read in ubuntu
[04:56] <Gartral> cd card?
[04:56] <Shaniac> What?
[04:56] <pseudoroot> cd card?
[04:56] <Discovery> sd*
[04:56] <Gartral> !cd rom
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd rom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <SpacePuppy> SeanTater: one knever knows .. back up your important files and practice safe partitioning.
[04:56] <Gartral> !cd
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Shaniac> whatis love
[04:56] <pseudoroot> !anything
[04:56] <Discovery> sorry spelt it wrong i was talking about an sd card
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <ki4cgp> My wife and I run this box simultaneously with different X sessions (CTRL+ALT+F7 and F9)  Is there a way I can set up a vnc server so sessions are available for both desktops?
[04:56] <Gartral> AHH
[04:56] <spike> hi there, I woud need help with wifi and wpa2, anybody?
[04:56] <Gartral> sd cards are not good for linux
[04:56] <pseudoroot> !wifi
[04:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:57] <Discovery> well is there a way i can use them
[04:57] <spike> no, I not using netwokrmanager, no I wont install it, yes Ie read the wiki already, not it doesnt work
[04:57] <Gartral> only in legacy mode, there slow, and loose data
[04:57] <Shaniac> lol i have an SD card slot on the front of my comp.
[04:57] <spike> now, anybody that can help?
[04:58] <pseudoroot> omglol
[04:58] <Discovery> Gartral: legacy mode?
[04:58] <GaiaX11> I am looking for a better chat program than kopete and gaim. Any suggestions?
[04:58] <bruenig> GaiaX11, what is lacking?
[04:58] <Gartral> so sorry im not up to date in terms, i basically fell off the planet for a year
[04:58] <MrPwnage> GaiaX11: there is nothing better
[04:58] <Discovery> lol
[04:58] <Discovery> hum...
[04:58] <Gartral> ANYWAY, i need help with a camera
[04:58] <bruenig> Gartral, hopefully into orbit
[04:59] <GaiaX11> bruenig: spell checking
[04:59] <Shaniac> lol
[04:59] <hueblur> ;_;
[04:59] <hueblur> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:59] <hueblur>   mozilla-firefox-dom-inspector: Depends: firefox-dom-inspector (= 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[04:59] <Discovery> Gartral: can u use your cam
[04:59] <bruenig> GaiaX11, gaim has spell check
[04:59] <eQuiller> Could anyone help me set up internal/external access to two machines?
[04:59] <Shaniac> my gaim has spell checking.
[04:59] <GaiaX11> bruenig: But, only works for English
[04:59] <eQuiller> Or point me to another channel, etc?
[04:59] <Gartral> ok, ha ha, do i make fun of all you when you make a mistake, last i knew, SD had a single driver that was bucko buck to obtain
[05:00] <bruenig> GaiaX11, well, the odds that you will find another chat client with spell check for whatever your language is, is unlikely
[05:00] <timfrost> hueblur: did you do 'sudo apt-get upgrade' or 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[05:00] <hueblur> yes.
[05:00] <GaiaX11> bruenig: and my kopete spell checker is not working as well :-(
[05:00] <Discovery> Gartral:really?
[05:00] <timfrost> hueblur: which?
[05:00] <bruenig> well I can't speak for kopete
[05:00] <Gartral> its a digital camera
[05:00] <hueblur> timfrost both.
[05:00] <ody> hello gents
[05:01] <hueblur> I had to get restricted modules last night for my wifi
[05:01] <Gartral> wikipedia.com/en/SD_card
[05:01] <wastrel> ubunto
[05:01] <hueblur> so, I know I have a diff kernel.
[05:01] <ody> does any of you know how to install a webcam for amsn if the drivers are hard to find
[05:01] <Shaniac> what cam?
[05:01] <threeonefour_> ody, for me it was easy
[05:02] <ody> its a ucam
[05:02] <Gartral> kodak easyshare one
[05:02] <Shaniac> I tryed and failed installing my eyetoy.
[05:02] <GaiaX11> bruenig: So,    :-(
[05:02] <ody> usb2
[05:02] <marx2k> it looks like fglrx is the culprit in my case :(
[05:02] <ody> cant find who makes it
[05:02] <bruenig> GaiaX11, are there windows clients that have other than english spell check?
[05:02] <hueblur> timfrost, Linux jove 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:02] <threeonefour_> ody, my was a nexxtech i just used the help function and it worked awesome
[05:02] <Shaniac> try checking the provider for linux drivers
[05:02] <timfrost> hueblur: edgy or feisty?
[05:02] <gumby600m> What's a good wireless network manager for Ubuntu 6.10, Intel IPW 2100?  Specifically, I want to be able to jump between wireless networks secured via WEP.
[05:03] <jlgaddis> gumby600m: NetworkManager
[05:03] <GaiaX11> bruenig: I do not know I am far away from Windows now. I have no windows in my machine
[05:03] <bruenig> !info network-manager-gnome
[05:03] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[05:03] <kameron> i used the diskmounter utility as suggested by a lot of people, and when i try to get write support for NTFS, after using the utility it says "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse' " ? what the problem is?
[05:03] <bruenig> GaiaX11, right well my point is simply that I don't think that such a client exists on any platform
[05:03] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g
[05:03] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:04] <hueblur> bruenig, trying to get dom inspector working
[05:04] <GaiaX11> bruenig: Ok. Thanks.
[05:05] <Shaniac> !compiz
[05:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:05] <jlgaddis> beryl++  =)
[05:06] <PFA> now that ive installed compiz ic an no longer set a desktop background, can anyone help me with this???
[05:07] <timfrost> hueblur:  I have (in edgy) 'Package: firefox-dom-inspector Provides: mozilla-firefox-dom-inspector'.  Try installing that
[05:07] <pseudoroot> my monitor gives a "frequency over range" error unless I disable the boot splash
[05:08] <pseudoroot> 6.10 edgy
[05:08] <timfrost> hueblur: note that the two packages appear to conflict, which is why the failure
[05:08] <Shaniac> can you log into console pseudo
[05:08] <pseudoroot> yeah, everything is fine once X starts
[05:08] <Shaniac> try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <Shaniac> play around
[05:09] <threeonefour_> how do i setup wine with breezy
[05:09] <Wimpog> GUYS, I have two versions of PHP on my Ubuntu machine - 4.2 and 5.2. However, 4.2 is used by default. How do I switch to 5.2?
[05:09] <Shaniac> 314: what Os exactly?
[05:09] <pseudoroot> Shaniac:   Ive tried, can't find anything that affects the splash stage
[05:09] <pseudoroot> other than disable it in menu.lst
[05:09] <threeonefour_> how do i setup wine with breezy badger ubuntu 5.10
[05:10] <Shaniac> pseudo: try settign a lower default res.
[05:10] <timfrost> Shaniac: changing X setup won't solve pseudoroot problem - the boot splash isn't controlled by the X server
[05:10] <Shaniac> true
[05:10] <pseudoroot> yup
[05:10] <Shaniac> hmm
[05:10] <Shaniac> lemme check it out
[05:10] <ody> theeonefour help functions?
[05:10] <cyphase> ooooh, ubuntu-desktop now depends on compiz in feisty
[05:11] <MrPwnage> cyphase: it appears that compiz will be used depending upon how the hardware supports it
[05:11] <MrPwnage> and/or is configured post-install
[05:11] <MrPwnage> :)
[05:11] <MrPwnage> no doubt ubuntu has a specific theme for it as well
[05:11] <cyphase> MrPwnage: what happened to the decision to hold off on compiz/beryl?
[05:11] <threeonefour_> ody, heres what i did while i was in a coversation window i choosed to send my cam and i ran through it like that
[05:11] <MrPwnage> hmm?
[05:12] <MrPwnage> apparently they decided to include it anyway?
[05:12] <highbass> Hey guys im having some major issues with my nvidia drivers... i got the nvidia drivers setup from the nvidia website they are running an all but when i goto applications > system tools > nvidia x server settings ... it doesnt give me any options to change my resolution.... or gamma control ... anyone know why this might be?
[05:12] <Shaniac> pseudo: pm me your menu.lst
[05:12] <ody> it worked
[05:13] <ody> it gives me nat probs behind a router
[05:13] <x3n0> anyone know which repo holds the kernel headers (2.6.19)?
[05:13] <bruenig> it would have to be main
[05:13] <highbass> x3n0 you can just type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:13] <bruenig> assuming it even exists
[05:14] <threeonefour_> ody,my name is threeonefour_
[05:14] <Shaniac> PSEUDO: you here?
[05:14] <z-tau> Does anyone here know how I can change the "change time" or ctime of a file?  "touch" allows you to change the access & modification time, but does not seem to support changing the ctime.  I have tried doing a web-search, but have not found any solutions that work
[05:15] <ody> threeonefour: just slow at typing
[05:15] <threeonefour_> ody,my name is threeonefour_
[05:15] <threeonefour_> ody,threeonefour_
[05:15] <smax> are there any ubuntu download links with an installation with kernel 2.6?
[05:15] <ody> threeonefour:
[05:16] <threeonefour_> ody,threeonefour_
[05:16] <smax> i cant seem to find any
[05:16] <threeonefour_> ody,the underscore
[05:16] <ody> sorry
[05:16] <bruenig> smash__, both dapper and edgy had 2.6
[05:16] <ody> threeonefour_ can you pick a smaller name
[05:17] <threeonefour_> ody,no way buddy
[05:17] <ody> how about 314
[05:17] <Shaniac> threeonefour_: dont expect everyone to type out your full name.
[05:17] <smax> bruenig, are you talking about the kernel version ?
[05:17] <cafuego_> Shaniac: tab completion
[05:17] <bruenig> yes
[05:17] <DavidW2> anyone else having trouble starting apache 2.2.3-3.2build1? When I start it, it says 'ok' but doesn't start
[05:17] <smax> what is more recent & stable dapper or edgy
[05:17] <cafuego_> smax: dapper is more stable, edgy si more recent
[05:17] <Shaniac> cafuego_: true
[05:17] <ody> threeonefour_just teasing
[05:17] <pseudoroot> Shaniac:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7893/
[05:17] <bruenig> smax, edgy is more recent, I guess dapper is more stable perhaps maybe sort of
[05:18] <smax> bruenig, thanx.  becuase with kernel 2.4 i get 9 issues with my video card
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Dapper is the 'lts' version.
[05:18] <threeonefour_> Shaniac, irc won't allow names to start with numbers
[05:18] <smax> is edgy testing?
[05:18] <Shaniac> I know
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Feisty is now the testing version
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Flatulating Fawn
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:18] <Shaniac> but let people shorten your name to like 314, etc.
[05:18] <ody> threeonefour_i said that and i was joking
[05:19] <Shaniac> lol
[05:19] <cafuego_> please, leave 100 pi alone
[05:19] <ody> hehehe
[05:19] <suprememilo> hey
[05:19] <_314> ody, is this better
[05:19] <ody> it helps my typing
[05:19] <tunganet> can anyone help me fix my screen, it currently scrolls down/top when i move my cursor near the top/bottom
[05:19] <suprememilo> im installing right now, what is /media/sda1?
[05:19] <ody> but its just your name
[05:20] <cafuego_> ody: Use tab completion
[05:20] <tunganet> i changed my resolution back to my default one but it doesnt work!
[05:20] <cafuego_> ody: Don't type out whole names
[05:20] <ody> cafuego, im new to linux world
[05:20] <renay> why is rosegarden not updated considering v 1.5 is out and all we get is v 1.0?
[05:21] <_314> suprememilo, media is where your devices get mounted and sda means usb
[05:21] <ody> so gents how would i configure my webcam for amsn
[05:21] <suprememilo> so should i put it on the partition with / ?
[05:21] <_314> ody, are you using the current version
[05:22] <highbass> anyone here have problems where nvidia-settings doesnt give any tweaking options?? cause i seem to have that problem!!!!!
[05:22] <riotkittie> ody: do you have a cam that is  supported?
[05:22] <ody> current version?
[05:22] <_314> ody, the newist version
[05:23] <ody> i dont think so its an unknown micromedia
[05:23] <ody> no 610
[05:23] <ody> 6.10
[05:23] <_314> ody, i mean of amsn
[05:23] <jake333> heyall
[05:23] <ody> RichiH,  0.96
[05:23] <jake333> i need help!!
[05:23] <jake333> lol
[05:24] <Faithful> is there a burner software that can handle multiple burners?
[05:24] <jake333>  i need to install nvidia driver
[05:24] <jake333> for 7300  gt
[05:24] <ody> riotkittie, is that the current one
[05:24] <suprememilo> If I am preparing mount points as long as i dont have my windows partition selected I should be ok and not messing it up right?
[05:25] <jake333> anyone help?
[05:25] <riotkittie> ody: i dont use amsn, so i dont know.
[05:25] <highbass> lol jake333 i am having nvidia driver issues myself! :/
[05:25] <jake333> hey
[05:25] <jake333> pm me
[05:25] <jake333> whats ur issue
[05:25] <ody> RichiH, what do you use
[05:25] <highbass> well i got the drivers installed except nvidia-settings doesnt give me any options to modify
[05:26] <highbass> like set resolution or stuff like that
[05:26] <tunganet> Can anyone help me disable the "alt + right click" menu that pops up during games?
[05:26] <_314> ody, use gaim
[05:26] <ki4cgp> My wife and I run this box simultaneously with different X sessions (CTRL+ALT+F7 and F9)  Is there a way I can set up a vnc server so sessions are available for both desktops?  I'm running edgy.
[05:26] <marx2k> heh Beryl is being quite elusive
[05:26] <highbass> jake333: did you get your drivers setup at all or no? cause you can go here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336412&page=2&highlight=nvidia+x+server+settings
[05:26] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  you could run a vncserver session, and then connect to it from either desktiop with vncviewer
[05:26] <hendaus> hiya all
[05:27] <ody> _314 does gaim work with msn
[05:27] <tunganet> Can anyone help me disable the "alt + right click" menu that pops up during games?
[05:27] <jake333> im having issues  with installing it lol
[05:27] <highbass> o ok
[05:27] <jake333> how do i go to root
[05:27] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  theres lots of neat tricks one can do with vnc.. depends on exadtly you are wanting to do with it.
[05:27] <jake333> to install it
[05:27] <docgnome> Dr_willis: I think he wants to be able to get the desktops to thin clients or something
[05:27] <highbass> you type sudo
[05:27] <_314> ody, yes it also works with irc aswell
[05:27] <highbass> there isnt a way to go fully root in ubuntu
[05:27] <highbass> atleast i dont know
[05:27] <highbass> but use sudo
[05:27] <ubuntu> !grub
[05:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:27] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, I'm wanting to connect to currently open sessions
[05:27] <MrPwnage> "sudo su"
[05:27] <MrPwnage> :p
[05:27] <highbass> so it would be sudo sh linux-x86blah.sh
[05:27] <ody> _314, cool i will try it
[05:28] <MrPwnage> if you want to be root
[05:28] <MrPwnage> then, after doing "sudo su"
[05:28] <MrPwnage> hit "passwd"
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  you mean you want to view desktop 1 from desktop #2 and  visa-versa
[05:28] <hendaus> can  anyone help me with amule
[05:28] <MrPwnage> to set a proper root password
[05:28] <MrPwnage> then you can login as root, or use su wihtout sudo
[05:28] <MrPwnage> (default linux behavior)
[05:28] <_314> riotkittie, how can i log into ubuntu as using the gui
[05:28] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, I'm sometimes out of town, and the wife might be on her desktop, but I'
[05:28] <jake333> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:28] <Glombool> why does export not work from a script when I run it in a shell?
[05:28] <highbass> but sudo su just makes the terminal root right
[05:28] <MrPwnage> wtf is envy
[05:28] <highbass> not the whole operating system...?
[05:29] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, I'm sometimes out of town, and the wife might be on her desktop, but I'd like to log into my running desktop and not disturb her
[05:29] <MrPwnage> highbass
[05:29] <riotkittie> Ok, let's talk dual screens, or lack thereof. I reinstalled XP about a week ago, and for the first time since I bought this laptop, I have extended desktop action going on. This is SWEET, and in the last 24hrs, i have spent more time in Windows than i have in the last 4 months. Granted, I hate Windows and find myself doing a whole lot of nothing, but ... I am doing it with *two screens*! My laptop has a less than stellar ATI Mobilit
[05:29] <highbass> jake333 dont use those drivers... use the original
[05:29] <MrPwnage> DO NOT make your whole system root
[05:29] <jake333> what
[05:29] <jake333> were
[05:29] <MrPwnage> DO NOT login primarily as root.
[05:29] <jake333> are they
[05:29] <DavidW2> stupid apache2
[05:29] <MrPwnage> you're opening holes that you never should
[05:29] <highbass> MrPwnage: is there a way to log in as root in ubuntu?
[05:29] <highbass> jake333: nvidia.com
[05:29] <MrPwnage> people can bust your machine upp
[05:29] <MrPwnage> up
[05:29] <jake333> ok
[05:29] <highbass> ya i understand that
[05:29] <jake333> 1 sec
[05:29] <MrPwnage> highbass: i told you already
[05:29] <_314> how can i log into ubuntu as using the gui
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  you could just start your desktop in a vncserver session.. that way it stays running, and you can connect to it.. but vnc over the internet may not be that secure.. best to use ssh tunnles with it .. Or course theres a dozen ways to do this stuff.. depending on exactly how you want to do things.
[05:29] <jake333> highbass can u pm me plz
[05:29] <_314> how can i log into ubuntu as root using the gui
[05:29] <jake333> ill help with rez's then
[05:30] <hendaus> i have a problem with kad on amule, it always shows kad off,can anyone help
[05:30] <jrib> !root | _314
[05:30] <ubotu> _314: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:30] <jake333> im good at that stuff
[05:30] <Dr_willis> _314,  thats a bad idea in many ways
[05:30] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, Yeah, I normally port forward using ssh
[05:30] <Glombool> why does export not work from a script when I run it in a shell?
[05:30] <suprememilo> so this installing system"
[05:30] <Glombool> The variables don't register.
[05:30] <suprememilo> once this bar is done am i done installing?
[05:30] <MrPwnage> Dr_willis: people still used to being "Administrator" i think
[05:30] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  for a linux to linux box.. you may want to check into that 'freenx' stuff.
[05:31] <tunganet> Can anyone help me disable the "alt + right click" menu that pops up during games?
[05:31] <MrPwnage> ubuntu's login security is unmatched :P
[05:31] <highbass> ok anyways ... i got a question for anyone iwth nvidia card./... i get issues with nvidia-settings where it doesnt give me any options to modify video card settings... anyone know why this might be?
[05:31] <_314> this i know but for somethings i need to do as root but i don't know how to use the terminal completely
[05:31] <MrPwnage> there is a reason it makes it so hard to be root
[05:31] <MrPwnage> because sudo works just as well
[05:31] <MrPwnage> :P
[05:31] <MrPwnage> and is more secure
[05:31] <jake333> highbass
[05:31] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  i just 'ssh' to the box. run vncserver, and then connect with vncviewer.. but thats not shareing the currently running desktop.. kde/gnome have that feature some how built in.. but i never use it.
[05:31] <dragonriot> !vmware
[05:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[05:31] <MrPwnage> as you're not "logging in as root"
[05:31] <jake333> do you know how to pm highbass
[05:31] <ware> plex0r:
[05:31] <MrPwnage> you're just "entering commands with root permissions"
[05:31] <highbass> jake333 i msged you
[05:31] <jake333> ok
[05:31] <jake333> thnks
[05:31] <highbass> you didnt get it?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> _314,  and what exactly are you trying to do that needs root in X?
[05:32] <Glombool> ...can anyone answer my question?
[05:32] <hendaus> please can anyone respond
[05:32] <jake333> i cant respond for some reason
[05:32] <highbass> mao
[05:32] <jrib> Glombool: export works fine, why not tell use exactly what you are doing
[05:32] <highbass> lol
[05:32] <jake333> can we go to a less crowded server
[05:32] <MrPwnage> _314, use gksudo
[05:32] <jrib> us even
[05:32] <highbass> can you read what im typing thou?
[05:32] <MrPwnage> :P
[05:32] <jake333> nope
[05:32] <riotkittie> _314: hit ALT+F and type gksudo then your command
[05:32] <MrPwnage> run "gksudo" and the command
[05:32] <highbass> ok just join channel #test
[05:32] <jake333> i didnt even get the message
[05:32] <nwonknu-> hi
[05:32] <jake333> ok
[05:32] <_314> !gksudo
[05:32] <hendaus> jake333,  i have a problem with kad on amule, it always shows kad off,can anyone help
[05:32] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[05:33] <plex0r> ware:
[05:33] <_314> ok there we go awesome thx
[05:33] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, right.  That is the problem.  I'm always running irc and multiple IMs so it often has messages waiting on me, so a persistent desktop I could log into without bothering the wife is what I'm looking for.
[05:33] <yomedia> Hello All. I followed the guidelines outlined in the Ubuntu online docs on how to get XGL/Compiz running, but whenever I try to log in by activateing XGL, it spews the error message:
[05:33] <pseudoroot> can't PM without registered nickname
[05:33] <Glombool> why does export not work from a script when I run it in a shell?
[05:34] <jrib> Glombool: export works fine, why not tell us exactly what you are doing
[05:34] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, I realize also that this is asking a lot from several different facets of running any linux
[05:34] <yomedia> Sorry, it says Xsession unable to launch "/usr/bin/startxgl.sh" not found, falling back to default session.
[05:34] <riotkittie> ok back ot my issue. Xinerama is pretty much my only option, right? :\
[05:34] <yomedia> Can anyone help? thanks
[05:34] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  set up gnome or kde to share the currently runing desktop is one way.. or run a 'vncserver' with all the stuff in it..  (it will be a hidden desktop) then run vncviewer to connect. (even locally ) which is a little weird.
[05:34] <plex0r_> ware: ?
[05:34] <Glombool> jrib: ok, I wrote a script to add a path variable: PATH=/media/UNIVERSAL/oe/bitbake/bin:$PATH but it doesn't add it.  WHen I type $PATH at the prompt, it is back to default.
[05:34] <pseudoroot> !xgl
[05:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:35] <hendaus> jake333,  why u didnot answer?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  i normally keep a minimal vncserver desktop in the background all the time running my torrent client. that way i can exit out of X  and keep it running.
[05:35] <_314> how do i set up my ubuntu to use fluxbox desktop
[05:35] <gumby600m> Is there an officially supported package for the latest stable ATI drivers in Ubuntu 6.10?  If so, what's it called?
[05:35] <jrib> Glombool: how are you executing your script?
[05:35] <Glombool> ./scriptname.sh
[05:35] <jrib> Glombool: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:35] <riotkittie> _314: in a terminal, sudo apt-get install fluxbox   ... or search for it in synaptic   ...
[05:35] <pavs_away> whats a good linux song?
[05:36] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, Yep.  You know the value of that then.  Kinda odd, yes, but its handy
[05:36] <_314> riotkittie, then i have to modify my grub so that it will boot in fluxbox right
[05:36] <xTERMiNATOR> When I use caps-lock in the terminal, it is working like the shift key.
[05:36] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, Perhaps I have a couple of directions I can take from the last suggestion.  That's do-able I think
[05:36] <wastrel> mmm nerdcore
[05:37] <hendaus> thanx for help
[05:37] <H264> hey, I am useing xubuntu 6.10 and I need to figure out this modem, I am a newb to Linux :)
[05:37] <riotkittie> _314: no :)  once you have fluxbox installed, log out of GNOME or your current desktop environment. on the login screen, click the SESSIONS menu, and you will find Fluxbox there
[05:37] <H264> (dial up modem)
[05:37] <ubuntu>       find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:37] <ubuntu> Error 15: File not found
[05:37] <Dr_willis> ki4cgp,  vnc is really a big 'multi-tool' :) with a lot of neat tricks..  with kde/gnome getting to support it now- the ability to share the currently running desktop is another blade- in the vnc-multi-tool-knife. :)
[05:37] <pseudoroot> !xubuntu
[05:37] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:37] <_314> riotkittie, your awesome thx
[05:38] <xTERMiNATOR> When I use caps-lock in the terminal, it is working like the shift key.  But in the GUI and it's terminal, there is no problem. What can be the problem?
[05:38] <pavs_away> !fluxbox
[05:38] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:38] <riotkittie> also, install fluxconf with fluxbox  ... it will come in handy, i assume.
[05:38] <riotkittie> :)
[05:38] <H264> very good, thanks :)
[05:38] <scottzlinux> hi all
[05:38] <ki4cgp> Dr_willis, Indeed.  I'm looking to see what I can google on that
[05:38] <pavs_away> !google
[05:38] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[05:38] <pavs_away> :)
[05:39] <tunganet> can anyone help me with alt+rightclick
[05:39] <pavs_away> !ubotu
[05:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:39] <pseudoroot> !fishing
[05:39] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:39] <pavs_away> lol
[05:39] <scottzlinux> I've been looking at disabling my wireless card, I did sudo to disable eth1(wireless) but the led light is still on, how do I disable it completely?
[05:39] <xTERMiNATOR> Anyone to help me?
[05:40] <scottzlinux> the card is internal and can't be switched off
[05:40] <gumby600m> Is there an officially supported package for the latest stable ATI drivers in Ubuntu 6.10?  If so, what's it called?
[05:40] <krinns> hi
[05:40] <xTERMiNATOR> When I use caps-lock in the terminal, it is working like the shift key.  But in the GUI and it's terminal, there is no problem. What can be the problem?
[05:40] <pavs_away> i love bitchx yohooooo. I wanna marry her. :)
[05:40] <krinns> any one know abt filemaker in ubuntu
[05:40] <tunganet> can anyone help me with alt+rightclick
[05:40] <riotkittie> if it cant be turned off, then isnt the led on normal ?
[05:41] <scottzlinux> in windows xp I can disable it and the LED is off
[05:41] <riotkittie> scottzlinux: does ifconfig (iwconfig?) eth1 down have any effect?
[05:41] <scottzlinux> thats what I used sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[05:42] <riotkittie> scottzlinux:  ah :/   i have no clue, sorry. ive got pcmcia wireless, myself.
[05:43] <Tracy> How do i turn off the starting sounds
[05:43] <ubuntu> !grub
[05:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:43] <_314> riotkittie, how do i get to be as awesome as you. do you have any links so i can learn the terminal
[05:43] <pseudoroot> system . prefs . sound
[05:43] <scottzlinux> riotkittie: that is the problem no one knows how to turn it off
[05:43] <Tracy> thanks pseudoroot
[05:44] <pseudoroot> yw
[05:44] <tunganet> can anyone help me with alt+rightclick
[05:45] <scottzlinux> only if ubuntu has a function to disable a device completely
[05:45] <riotkittie> _314:  i am far from awesome :P  i dont have any links off hand, most of my knowledge has come from books, rather than the web... but if you google something like "linux commands" you should get a ton of results
[05:45] <xTERMiNATOR> When I use caps-lock in the terminal, it is working like the shift key.  But in the GUI and it's terminal, there is no problem. What can be the problem?
[05:46] <riotkittie> brb
[05:46] <xTERMiNATOR> So numbers cannot be entered when caps lock is on.
[05:47] <xTERMiNATOR> Like when I press 1, I get !
[05:47] <ubuntu> hey how cab i preinstall gnome
[05:47] <riotkittie> xTERMiNATOR: use the numberpad as a work around?
[05:47] <riotkittie> preinstall?
[05:47] <xTERMiNATOR> Preinstall?
[05:48] <riotkittie> brb
[05:48] <xTERMiNATOR> ok riotkittie
[05:48] <Comrade-Sergei> is there a software app for ubuntu for overclocking a cpu?
[05:49] <Jeremy_From_Mo> has anyone had issues installin ubuntu with a litescribe dvd?
[05:49] <test3> Comrade-Sergei, use your BIOS, dumbhoe
[05:49] <rellik> how do I resume a process that I stopped?
[05:49] <tunganet> can anyone help me with alt+rightclick
[05:50] <matty_v> does anyone know of a WINE how-to with world of warcraft?
[05:50] <Comrade-Sergei> test3 oh really? i wanna do it with coftware
[05:50] <pavs> is it possible to get this in ubuntu: look at the right hand side CPU info http://www.boxwhore.org/uploads/photos/145.jpg  as if it's part of the wallpaper. very very cool.
[05:50] <MrPwnage> matty_v: gentoo has a nice one, google it
[05:50] <matty_v> thanks MrPwnage
[05:50] <MrPwnage> literally, just type "WoW on WINE" in google
[05:50] <riotkittie> xTERMiNATOR: also, sounds like an issue with language or locale, maybe. uhh. you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-tools  or sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-common ... BUT i cant swear either one of those will hold the answer, and i'm not sure which of the two would be the better choice
[05:50] <MrPwnage> and it'll automatically give you that.
[05:50] <Comrade-Sergei> test3 dont be dumb
[05:50] <MrPwnage> lol
[05:50] <marx2k_> Hmmmm
[05:50] <matty_v> champion :)
[05:50] <MrPwnage> keep in mind
[05:50] <MrPwnage> you must modify it to your distro
[05:50] <MrPwnage> :)
[05:50] <matty_v> yep fair enough
[05:50] <MrPwnage> gentoo is a bit of an odd duck
[05:51] <xTERMiNATOR> Thanks riotkittie . I will try that now.
[05:51] <riotkittie> i know i had to dpkg-reconfigure something when i wanted to change my layout in the console, but. i cant remember what it was. :/
[05:51] <Comrade-Sergei> is there a software app for ubuntu for overclocking a cpu?
[05:51] <matty_v> Do u know if Illustrator CS works with WINE too?
[05:51] <jiminy> Does the update manager keep a log file anywhere?
[05:51] <riotkittie> xTERMiNATOR: good luck. keyboard issues are vile.
[05:51] <xTERMiNATOR> :)
[05:51] <MrPwnage> Comrade-Sergei: no.
[05:51] <Comrade-Sergei> aww
[05:51] <MrPwnage> not for any linux
[05:51] <MrPwnage> overclocking is risky
[05:51] <Comrade-Sergei> there is for palmos
[05:51] <marx2k_> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/atiogl_a_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[05:51] <marx2k_> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[05:51] <marx2k_> :(
[05:51] <pavs> is it possible to get this in ubuntu: look at the right hand side CPU info http://www.boxwhore.org/uploads/photos/145.jpg  as if it's part of the wallpaper. very very cool.
[05:52] <Comrade-Sergei> MrPwnage its not too bad if you have water cooling
[05:52] <MrPwnage> pavs: that's called conky
[05:52] <riotkittie> pavs: i am not in X and cannot see images but i bet youre talking about conky. its in the repos.
[05:52] <MrPwnage> Comrade-Sergei: then get a mobo that supports OCing
[05:52] <Shaniac> whats the console command to copy?
[05:52] <riotkittie> Shaniac: cp
[05:52] <MrPwnage> what kind of CPU/mobo do you have?
[05:52] <Shaniac> yty
[05:52] <pavs> conky works on ubuntu?
[05:52] <MrPwnage> pavs: it works in all linux
[05:52] <riotkittie> pavs: of course.
[05:52] <marx2k_> pavs: yup
[05:52] <MrPwnage> all linux is the same.
[05:52] <touchie> I am attempting to  ATI/AMD fglrx in Ubuntu Edgy, step by step.  But I get an error when I try to unpack fglrx-control_8.31.5-1_i386.deb. Any ideas?
[05:52] <MrPwnage> identical.
[05:52] <pavs> tnx brb
[05:52] <MrPwnage> there are little differences
[05:52] <MrPwnage> but, they're basically identical
[05:52] <Comrade-Sergei> MrPwnage mine just says overclocking on and doesnt let me change anything else
[05:52] <riotkittie> all linux is not the same. :P
[05:52] <Dr_willis> pavs,  looks like some gdesklets to me.. may be conly
[05:53] <MrPwnage> riotkittie: technically it is
[05:53] <MrPwnage> provided the kernel/glibc are the same rev
[05:53] <MrPwnage> and they have enough libraries :P
[05:53] <MrPwnage> a GNOME desktop for me ends up looking/acting the same way on CentOS or Gentoo as it does on Ubuntu
[05:53] <MrPwnage> and i end up using it the same way
[05:53] <MrPwnage> and compiling the same programs
[05:54] <MrPwnage> package managers are simply ways to install programs
[05:54] <MrPwnage> and those are largely the only things that differ between most linux distros
[05:55] <riotkittie> if you say so  :P
[05:55] <MrPwnage> if you're speaking on the level of initscripts and things like taht
[05:55] <MrPwnage> the regular user never has to worry about that
[05:55] <MrPwnage> and it's probably beyond the scope of my blanket statement
[05:56] <riotkittie> heh .
[05:56] <MrPwnage> and it's quickly seen with using all distros that initscripts or design decisions do not affect the user experience
[05:56] <MrPwnage> or how programs work
[05:56] <MrPwnage> not in the "user level"
[05:57] <MrPwnage> i used to have a gentoo box that worked like ubuntu with portage
[05:57] <MrPwnage> or a slackware box that could be easily compared in its user-friendliness to Kubuntu, with its GUI package managers and such
[05:57] <ubuntu> hey how can i preinstall gnome
[05:58] <MrPwnage> the thing is, ubuntu gets you there with less work
[05:58] <marx2k> aiglx doesnt like me
[05:58] <MrPwnage> :P
[05:58] <_314> riotkittie, thx. jw do you think that a linux certifcation book for redhat 7.2 would be good to read
[05:58] <MrPwnage> lmfao
[05:58] <riotkittie> slack's package manager makes me want to weep
[05:58] <MrPwnage> 7.2?
[05:58] <wastrel> linux philosophy should be in offtopic
[05:58] <MrPwnage> riotkittie: it makes me crack a rather sick smile
[05:58] <riotkittie> _314: redhat 7.2 is ancient.
[05:58] <wastrel> as much as we love it
[05:58] <MrPwnage> wastrel: everything should be in offtopic
[05:58] <MrPwnage> but, that doesn't seem to work well
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: Gnome comes by default - what do you mean?
[05:58] <MrPwnage> so i'm just going with the flow
[05:59] <wastrel> nuh uh.   the innumerable "compiz is b0rked" belong in here
[05:59] <MrPwnage> riotkittie: slackware's package manager can be seen as either good or evil
[05:59] <riotkittie> _314: for a good general linux book, i'd suggest OReilly's Linux in a Nutshell
[05:59] <_314> riotkittie, ya i know but it's what they gave me at school last semester for my linux course
[05:59] <MrPwnage> depends on what you want out of it
[05:59] <Skanarchy> Hello everyone, I have a question :o
[05:59] <wastrel> slackware chat definitely belongs in offtopic
[05:59] <jake333> hey
[05:59] <jake333> im trying to install the nvidia driver
[05:59] <_314> riotkittie, ok i will look for it thx
[05:59] <xipietotec> I upgraded to the latest version of firefox...and now it refuses to start, how can I get the error output for it?
[05:59] <jake333> and i cant run sh
[05:59] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: when i start in gnome it give me bug
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Skanarchy: just ask it
[05:59] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: i need to preinstall it
[06:00] <riotkittie> _314: but a lot of the things in that RH book may prove useful ... and it probably has a good breakdown of commands
[06:00] <Skanarchy> So I installed the ATI driver from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.34.8_Driver_Manually
[06:00] <xipietotec> it literally just starts up firefox-bin, and then closes, no error output to my screen
[06:00] <MrPwnage> ? @ someone actually managing to get in here with the nick "ubuntu"
[06:00] <jake333> sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[06:00] <jake333> i get sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Do you mean reinstall, rather than preinstall?  Have you checked Launchpad.net for the bug t o see if there's a fix?
[06:00] <MrPwnage> is that Mark Shuttleworth? rofl.
[06:00] <Skanarchy> and the and the fglrxinfo gives back
[06:00] <Skanarchy> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.34.8_Driver_Manually
[06:00] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: before two days it work good in Gnome
[06:00] <Skanarchy> err
[06:00] <Skanarchy> I mean
[06:00] <Skanarchy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:00] <Skanarchy> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:00] <Skanarchy> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:00] <Skanarchy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:00] <Skanarchy> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[06:00] <_314> ok thx i am gone  time to install win 3.1.1 and redhat 7.2
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> MrPwnage: It's the default nick on Live CDs, for one
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> !paste | Skanarchy
[06:00] <ubotu> Skanarchy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:00] <Skanarchy> Is it supposed to have MESA? I thought it was meant to install fglrx
[06:01] <MrPwnage> tonyyarusso: i was being silly
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> :P
[06:01] <MrPwnage> tonyyarusso: i just found it funny that one successfully eked in without someone registering it
[06:01] <xTERMiNATOR> riotkittie, That has solved the keyboard problem. Thank you very much friend :)
[06:01] <MrPwnage> :)
[06:01] <riotkittie> xTERMiNATOR: glad i could help!
[06:01] <xTERMiNATOR> :)
[06:01] <jake333> help
[06:01] <MrPwnage> xterm-inator?
[06:01] <jake333> plz people
[06:01] <MrPwnage> awesome pun.
[06:01] <Tracy> Does the ubuntu project publish any books, I was looking to buy something and might as well support the project while im at it
[06:01] <marx2k> mesa means your fglrx install borked
[06:01] <jake333> im trying to install the nvidia driver
[06:01] <riotkittie> jake333: what do you need help with?
[06:01] <xipietotec> I upgraded to the latest version of firefox...and now it refuses to start, how can I get the error output for it?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> jake333: have you done chmod +x on it yet?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> xipietotec: run it from a terminal
[06:02] <jake333> nope
[06:02] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: and how can preinstall gnome
[06:02] <Skanarchy> marx2k: ahh... great <_<
[06:02] <jake333> how do i do that?
[06:02] <riotkittie> oh. ive got an ATI chip that dates back to like 1492. nvidia probs are way out of my league
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: I'm still not sure what you mean.
[06:02] <marx2k> hey, dont complain.;.. I got fglrx working and beryl is totally not working :)
[06:02] <jake333> how do i cmod it
[06:02] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso:  command in terminal to preinstall
[06:02] <tunganet> can anyone help me with alt+rightclick
[06:02] <jake333> or w.e
[06:02] <Skanarchy> Thats what I want todo :p
[06:02] <xipietotec> tonyyarusso: Seg fault (Core dumped)
[06:03] <riotkittie> ooh. i am going to bed. nite all, be well
[06:03] <Skanarchy> freaking ATI cards >:/
[06:03] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: gnome give me bug it start before two days.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: That doesn't make any sense.  It's installed by default out of the box.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: have you searched the bug?
[06:03] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: no
[06:03] <marx2k_> When I run an AIGLX session, everything runs very very verrrrrrrrry slow
[06:03] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: the bug is very large
[06:03] <touchie> I think the problem is that its an X1700 and ATI site says it doesn't support Linux for that model .
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: That would probably help.
[06:03] <jake333> tonyyarusso how do i do the crom + thing
[06:03] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: the bug is very large
[06:04] <Skanarchy> Alright, well since that install did not work, is there another guide out there that DOES? for x1600 cards
[06:04] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso:  where i need to search this large bug.
[06:04] <cronik> guys
[06:04] <cronik> how can i be a geek like all of you?
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> jake333: chmod +x /path/to/the/scriptythingamabob
[06:04] <asc> Somebody remind me what the command to fsck on reboot is?
[06:04] <touchie> Will check it out.
[06:04] <oggy> geek?
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: bugs.ubuntu.com (goes to launchpad)
[06:04] <cronik> yes
[06:04] <cronik> :)
[06:05] <touchie> Thanks :-)
[06:05] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: now lets see,when i start gnome i can't open firefox how you want to do that in bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:05] <asc> cronik: memorize the kernel headers.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: I want you to search for keywords to see if anyone has had a similar problem.
[06:06] <bimberi> asc: sudo shutdown -Fr now
[06:06] <pavs> do you also use conky to make terminal look like its part of the wallpaper?
[06:06] <jake333> tonyyarusso thank you
[06:06] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso:  and how you want to do this,when i can't copy the bug.
[06:06] <supervillain> I want to ask how to make NoDisplay=true hide my desktop files, it's not working in Feisty.
[06:06] <asc> bimberi: thanks.
[06:07] <cronik> I'm new to Linux,in a way but in another I'm not,i have lot of books about it but none of them really help me get to the level where i want to be
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: You don't need to put anything in yet - just look.
[06:08] <cronik> any suggestion?
[06:08] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: what,i need only to open the web page and what i need to do,to watch it,.
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: You're searching for whether someone else has reported a possible fix.
[06:09] <jiminy> cronik: most would argue even installing Linux gets you the title ``geek'', ;o) but about the only thing I can recommend is keeping on reading, keeping on practicing and waiting. Learning lots takes time.
[06:09] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso:  ok
[06:10] <cronik> thank you
[06:10] <cronik> and i will
[06:10] <oggy> I need to easily convert a flv file from istanbul to mpeg
[06:10] <oggy> can anyone help
[06:10] <asc> exit
[06:10] <asc> Heh, is not ssh.
[06:10] <billy> why would I lose sound playback by pausing the media?
[06:10] <gandalfcome> Anyone has VISTA and Ubuntu in dual boot? my vista always claims its partition as the boot partition, which is kind of annoying. ideas? thanks
[06:11] <cronik> try installing vista 1st then install ubuntu
[06:11] <billy> gandalfcome, have you tried a super grub CD?
[06:11] <scott__> !grub recover
[06:11] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[06:11] <jake333> tyranth
[06:12] <jake333> im gonna restart
[06:12] <jake333> br
[06:12] <jake333> brb*
[06:12] <scott__> if you use a live CD you can reclaim the boot partition for GRUB
[06:12] <cronik> yea
[06:12] <cronik> i try that once
[06:12] <scott__> there's directions on how to do that somewhere...
[06:12] <cronik> but it was a pain from ubuntu
[06:12] <cronik> i used knoppix for that
[06:12] <zaydana> cronik - @ earlier question, try installing LFS
[06:13] <zaydana> www.linuxfromscratch.org
[06:13] <cronik> i try
[06:13] <zaydana> you learn heaps from doing that
[06:13] <oggy> I run ,64bit Vista , which is useless and nonproductive on one sata II western digital hard drive , I also run Ubuntu 64bit on a ide maxtor 40gig and I run windows xp sp2 on one machine but I dont use grub
[06:13] <oggy> I use my bios to go from hard drive to hard drive
[06:13] <pschulz01> Greetings. Is there a equivalent to the CentOS/Redhat 'authconfig' command in Ubuntu?
[06:13] <cronik> but i don't think I'm up to that level yet
[06:13] <cronik> all the books that i have are targeted to the comptia linux+ certification
[06:13] <zaydana> cronik - neither was I :-) As long as you can follow instructions tho, you'll get through it
[06:13] <cronik> lol
[06:13] <cronik> thanx
[06:14] <tunganet> does anyone know how to configure metacity to not popup a menu when you're running games in wine?
[06:14] <zaydana> books aren't really that helpful in my experience
[06:14] <cronik> maybe i will give it a try
[06:14] <pschulz01> I am after an easy (painless) way to configure LDAP authentication.
[06:14] <cronik> have done it before?
[06:14] <zaydana> actually doing stuff is tho
[06:14] <zaydana> yeah, I did it a few times a few years back
[06:14] <tunganet> does anyone know how to configure metacity to not popup a menu when you're running games in wine?
[06:14] <scott__> gandalfcome: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[06:14] <Skanarchy> hmm, well any ideas then for getting the ATI X1600 working, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.34.8_Driver_Manually failed and its running off of MESA :/
[06:14] <cronik> i think that would look nice in my resume
[06:15] <tunganet> does anyone know how to configure metacity to not popup a menu when you're running games in wine?
[06:15] <cronik> i have a question for all the people that are helping other people in here
[06:15] <cronik> do you guys get pay?
[06:15] <cronik> to do this?
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> nope
[06:16] <billy> they should.
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> all volunteer
[06:16] <JamesBeen> yeah the corporation pays them
[06:16] <zaydana> not that I know of
[06:16] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: the problem come from gnome-panel
[06:16] <v1rtualcowboy> yes they should
[06:16] <cronik> nice
[06:16] <cronik> nice
[06:16] <cronik> i love it
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: ah
[06:16] <jiminy> cronik: Nah, just the warm-'n'-fuzzies.
[06:16] <Skanarchy> ? :(
[06:16] <v1rtualcowboy> i like ubuntu too
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> cronik, it's all about supporting the community  : )
[06:16] <v1rtualcowboy> runnning apache on it
[06:16] <cronik> yea mna
[06:16] <v1rtualcowboy> free
[06:16] <v1rtualcowboy> :)
[06:16] <cronik> cant wait to put my 10 cents
[06:16] <edibleegg> hey, looking for help installing beryl, have nvidia card, i've tried the installation guide on the beryl wiki, but didnt work
[06:16] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: now what i need to do.
[06:16] <billy> is there a way to ...like... restart my sound?
[06:16] <dmb062082> how do i install ident?
[06:17] <dmb062082> lame question i know
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: I don't know
[06:17] <shriphani> can someone please give me the multiverse repos for dapper? cuz source-o-matic doesnt seem to have it
[06:17] <v1rtualcowboy> over my head
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> edibleegg, see beryl support in #ubuntu-effects
[06:17] <cronik> try apt-get
[06:17] <billy> edibleegg, try ubuntuforums.  there's a sticky in the "beginner" area.
[06:17] <edibleegg> thanks guys
[06:17] <cronik> you never know
[06:17] <pavs>  i installed conky i want to edit the rc file but which/where folder is it located?
[06:18] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso:  aha ok .
[06:18] <jake333> ok im back
[06:18] <jake333> tonyyarusso: it didnt work
[06:18] <jake333> well idk if it did
[06:18] <jake333> im kinda confused
[06:18] <billy> do wildcards such as * work when searching for files by filename.
[06:18] <billy> ?
[06:18] <pavs>  i installed conky i want to edit the rc file but which/where folder is it located?
[06:18] <jake333> tonyyarusso:  -nvidia
[06:18] <chorse> dmb062082: there come several identd implementations with ubuntu, gidentd is one of them - sudo apt-get install gidentd
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> jake333: Did you follow the wiki?
[06:19] <jake333> didnt see a wiki
[06:19] <jake333> can you send me the link
[06:19] <oggy> I need an updated sources list
[06:19] <shriphani> tonyyarusso: u using dapper ?
[06:19] <cables> oggy, what do you mean by updated?
[06:19] <jake333> tonyyarusso:  the wiki plz?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> shriphani: Feisty
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> !nv | jake333
[06:19] <ubotu> jake333: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:19] <jake333> tonyyarusso:  thnksss
[06:19] <oggy> well , im arent there like updated list
[06:19] <oggy> ?
[06:19] <oggy> im a noob
[06:19] <oggy> :|
[06:19] <shriphani> i need the multiverse repos for dapper
[06:20] <cables> oggy, you don't need to change the list.
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse | shriphani
[06:20] <ubotu> shriphani: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:20] <cables> oggy, what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <oggy> nothing just making sure everything is updated
[06:20] <billy> shriphani, have you checked /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that they are there, but commented?
[06:20] <cables> oggy, Ubuntu automatically updates everything.
[06:20] <oggy> even my sources list
[06:20] <oggy> ?
[06:20] <shriphani> billy sure
[06:21] <cables> oggy, your sources list doesn't change. It just lists where Ubuntu should look for newer versions of software.
[06:21] <shriphani> i have and dont see them there
[06:21] <cables> oggy, have you changed it by any chance?
[06:21] <oggy> no I havent
[06:21] <billy> shriphani, dapper, you said?
[06:21] <tunganet> does anyone know how to configure metacity to not popup a menu when you're running games in wine?
[06:21] <jake333>  tonyyarusso:  thnks but im gonna need more help to
[06:22] <jake333>  tonyyarusso:  i dont know my version or what to install
[06:22] <oggy> just updated , saids everything is up to date
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> jake333: not sure I can do much more.  lsb_release -a to get your version though
[06:22] <cables> oggy, you don't need to do anything. When there are updates for software on your computer, an update thingy should appear in your notification area. Click it to download new updates.
[06:22] <jake333> ok
[06:22] <jake333> thnks
[06:22] <cables> oggy, in that case, you're up to date.
[06:22] <juancgt> can someone help me, i noticed i had both kdm & gdm, so i uninstalled kdm and now the system just stands on tty1 . How can I make it so that it automatically starts gdm?
[06:22] <shriphani> billy yh
[06:22] <shriphani> yes ^
[06:22] <oggy> nice
[06:23] <Skanarchy> Can someone help me with getting fglrx working? The ATI wiki guide has resulted in fail for a reason I cant explain, I followed everything :/
[06:23] <stochastic> hi, just out of curiosity, I'm trying to get a program called Delineate running and it's requiring me to change the path of JAVA_HOME but I'm not sure where that's located
[06:24] <JamesBeen> skanarchy: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[06:24] <billy> shriphani, check this out.  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=6ea9bb9bedcb36e4c227a4598ab5f07c&p=2217855#post2217855
[06:24] <oggy> cables can you help me convert an flv file to mpeg
[06:24] <Skanarchy> JamesBeen; Thats exactly what I did
[06:24] <oggy> its an istanbul video
[06:24] <Skanarchy> fglrxinfo is telling me its using MESA, not fglrx
[06:24] <cables> oggy, there's a guide somewhere... I may have it bookmarked. Hold on
[06:25] <tunganet> does anyone know how to configure metacity to not popup a menu when you're running games in wine?
[06:25] <juancgt> does anyone know how to make gdm load at boot?
[06:25] <rbil> oggy: http://youmakemedia.com/2006/10/13/converting-flv-to-mpeg-in-linux/
[06:25] <ubuntu> tonyyarusso: how to reinstall gnome
[06:25] <jake333> im installing
[06:25] <oggy> thanks
[06:25] <billy> shriphani, something like this.  deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[06:25] <billy> deb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[06:26] <cables> rbil, thanks for helping me out with that answer :) I was about to give up.
[06:26] <JamesBeen> skanarchy: do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:26] <pavs> can't kind conkyrc how do i look for it?
[06:26] <Skanarchy> James: Alright
[06:26] <JamesBeen> and search "driver". make sure everything related to ati has fglrx instead of mesa
[06:26] <Skanarchy> ok
[06:27] <JamesBeen> and reboot :)
[06:27] <juancgt> sorry to keep repeating myself, but does anyone know how to make gdm load at boot?
[06:28] <Flannel> juancgt: you on Dapper or Edgy?
[06:28] <Skanarchy> JamesBeen: Driver      "vesa"    <--- change to fglrx?
[06:28] <billy> is there a command /etc/init.d XXXX for the sound ?
[06:28] <JamesBeen> yeah
[06:29] <Skanarchy> in another section it says fglrx though, weird, I'll try it anyway
[06:29] <billy> JamesBeen, you talking to me?
[06:29] <JamesBeen> no sorry
[06:29] <billy> dang
[06:29] <JamesBeen> heh
[06:29] <juancgt> Flannel: edgy
[06:29] <Skanarchy> alright, brb
[06:30] <Flannel> juancgt: You're using upstart then.  Which, unfortunately, I know nothing about.  How did you get in the situation where GDM doesn't load on boot?
[06:30] <billy> i was just minding my own business when I had to pause the DVD.  Now the sound won't play.  What are some good terms I can search on google?
[06:30] <billy> the terms I'm using are too broad.
[06:31] <marx2k> alsamixer
[06:31] <marx2k> make sure your PCM is turned on in alsamixer
[06:31] <cables> billy, won't play at all? Have you tried stopping and starting it? Removing and putting back in the disk? Restarting the machine?
[06:31] <rbil> juancgt: you should still be able to do ... /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:32] <billy> cables, restarting the machine will do it.  but the volume applet in the panel won't allow me to adjust the volume.  sooner or later, the sound dies.
[06:32] <MM> OH man, if anything it just got a lot worse! D:
[06:32] <cables> billy, you're using Totem?
[06:32] <billy> yes.
[06:32] <juancgt> Flannel: had both kdm & gdm installed... deleted kdm, and well now i have this problem :)
[06:32] <Skanarchy> JamesBeen: Yeah, its all weird now, windows rendering bad
[06:33] <JamesBeen> skanarchy:weird, i guess you should change it back
[06:33] <Skanarchy> lol <_<
[06:33] <cables> billy, try VLC, and see if the same thing happens. If it does, it's probably got to do with your sound subsystem. If it doesn't, Totem's just being buggy.
[06:33] <Flannel> juancgt: oh.  Well, reinstalling GDM should fix that.
[06:33] <cables> billy, sorry I can't stay here longer, I've got to go
[06:33] <juancgt> rbil: i know.. but i kinda need the computer to go from off, to cron-able without human interaction
[06:34] <juancgt> Flannel: tried that; didn't work.. still won't autoboot
[06:34] <billy> cables, thanks.  not just totem. system wide.
[06:34] <rbil> juancgt: but when you logout of the session, you should be able to choose gdm as the default session
[06:34] <Flannel> juancgt: what about dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
[06:35] <JamesBeen> skanarchy try fglrxinfo
[06:35] <JamesBeen> in term
[06:37] <bluefoxicy> anyone know about POSIX ACLs?
[06:38] <marx2k> ooooh im ready to hurt X Windows
[06:38] <marx2k> grrr my router keeps disconnecting me and I dont know why
[06:38] <marx2k> heh attempting to install beryl is harder than I thought
[06:38] <Flannel> marx2k: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support (and howtos in the topic and stuff)
[06:39] <bdragonmsl> can anyone tell me how to change my root password??
[06:39] <Taime1> is there a way to install windows wirelss drivers in ubuntu?
[06:39] <juancgt> bdragonmsl: sudo su
[06:40] <Flannel> juancgt, bdragonmsl, no need to set a root password
[06:40] <Flannel> juancgt: and, that'd be wrong anyway.
[06:40] <shatrat> bdragonmsl, use the passwd command
[06:40] <bdragonmsl> well, everytime that I try to install beryl it won't let me saying that I have to do it as root.
[06:40] <Flannel> !sudo | bdragonmsl
[06:40] <ubotu> bdragonmsl: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:40] <Flannel> bdragonmsl: you use sudo to do that, not a root account
[06:40] <Skanarchy> Mmk, back on MESA :(
[06:41] <docgnome> Where should I put dns servers? I'm using kubuntu and have tried to set my dns servers with the gui and it doesn't save them between reboots
[06:41] <bdragonmsl> I know that it runs things with superuser privleges, but for some reason it doesn't work
[06:41] <Flannel> bdragonmsl: what command are you trying?
[06:41] <bdragonmsl> try telling my terminal that
[06:41] <juancgt> Flannel: whats the right way?
[06:41] <bdragonmsl> brb
[06:42] <rbil> docgnome: they're saved in resolve.conf
[06:42] <Flannel> juancgt: to set a root password?  You'd use sudo then passwd.  But, there's absolutely *no* reason to do that
[06:42] <bdragonmsl> sudo ./beryl-install-script
[06:42] <_snajper_> docgnome: /etc/resolv.conf
[06:42] <JamesBeen> skanarchy did you try doin fglrxinfo
[06:42] <JamesBeen> in terminal
[06:42] <juancgt> hmm maybe setting a password is the reason
[06:42] <Skanarchy> yes, its giving back MESA
[06:42] <Flannel> juancgt: right, there's NO reason to set a root password.
[06:42] <pavs> how can i make my terminal look transparent?
[06:42] <Skanarchy> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:43] <Flannel> bdragonmsl: ah, well, I don't know.  You're doing it right, as far as I can tell.  Ask in #ubuntu-effects (thats the ubuntu beryl support room), they'll know why
[06:43] <bdragonmsl> could it be something wrong with their script??
[06:43] <Skanarchy> however, it is giving a warning: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:43] <Flannel> bdragonmsl: it could very well be.
[06:43] <Kristov> hi
[06:43] <duryodhan> hello anyone there/
[06:44] <pavs> no
[06:44] <bdragonmsl> well, thanks for the info guys
[06:44] <JamesBeen> skanarchy yeah i get the same message, but no problems
[06:44] <jart> i'm trying to reconfigure my kernel package with dpkg and it's saying: "failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool
[06:44] <Skanarchy> James: Hmm
[06:44] <jart> in /etc/kernel-img.conf i have  ramdisk = /usr/sbin/mkinitrd
[06:44] <Skanarchy> James: The cchtml guide worked for you then?
[06:45] <poningru> !dvd
[06:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:45] <rusty_> yo
[06:45] <duryodhan> How do I make a Ubuntu LiveUSB from the LiveCD image?
[06:46] <rusty_> ono
[06:46] <duryodhan> Infact I have already managed to make it to boot using the extlinux system from syslinux package
[06:46] <rusty_> im here for help 2
[06:46] <JamesBeen> skanarchy yes. they do give you two ways, so it might worth trying the other way. I did it the easy way,
[06:46] <duryodhan> but its hangin ...
[06:46] <Skanarchy> James: Do I have to uninstall?
[06:46] <Flannel> duryodhan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:46] <duryodhan> it sez can't find tty and gives me the shell at initramfs
[06:46] <Skanarchy> or can I just go ahead and do it
[06:47] <rusty_> how to i mount my secondary hd
[06:47] <_snajper_> jart: you need initrd-tools, initramfs-tools, yaird
[06:47] <MagicFab> how can I check what a security update does, other than using apt-listbugs
[06:48] <JamesBeen> probably better off uninstalling. You could just use synaptic
[06:48] <Skanarchy> mmk
[06:48] <JamesBeen> also
[06:48] <dimas__> register
[06:49] <jart> _snajper_: thanks
[06:49] <JamesBeen> look into envy, I haven't tried it but its supposed to be easier
[06:49] <JamesBeen> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:49] <Skanarchy> I tried it :P
[06:49] <duryodhan> Flannel: ya ... but thats for installing ... I alread y have a linux , I just want to make the LiveCD to a LiveUSB.
[06:49] <nf4> envy is way easy
[06:50] <andrew_> hi, how can I automatically regenerate the original xorg.conf ubuntu generated upon install? i removed a video card..goling back to onboard..and dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't getting me the proper resolution
[06:50] <Flannel> duryodhan: Right, that instruction will put the liveCD on the USB, and make it bootable, so you'll boot to a live environment from the USB.  Regardless of whether you choose to install
[06:51] <docgnome> ... So I added my dns servers to /etc/resolv.conf and rebooted kubuntu... and it change the file back.
[06:51] <rusty_> so now that i have those upgrades what steps do i go through for mounting a secondary hd, i have x64
[06:52] <duryodhan> Flannel: ya but I dont want to type something everytime ... thats something I tried... I had used syslinux and got stuck there and that solution came to me . But waht I am asking is ... I edited the isolinux.cfg , renamed it to extlinux.conf , and edited it properly .. just changed something like /cdrom/preseed to /preseed .... shouldn't it work now ??
[06:53] <oggy> the instructions on this how to
[06:53] <jart> _snajper_: i'm still getting the same error :(
[06:53] <oggy> cables you there?
[06:53] <Skanarchy> JamesBeen: I dont want to uninstall anything I shouldnt... what packages am I uninstalling here?
[06:53] <Flannel> duryodhan: I don't know what you need to type everytime
[06:53] <oggy> Now right click somewhere in the folder and select Open in Terminal. This will launch a terminal specific to that folder. Edit the below code to suit your needs, paste into Terminal, and press enter.
[06:53] <poningru> !dvd
[06:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:53] <jart> _snajper_: let me try something else
[06:54] <oggy> im right clicking in the folder
[06:54] <GigaClon> when I try to open a ogg file in audacity it can't recognize it
[06:54] <oggy> and I see no option for open terminal
[06:54] <duryodhan> Flannel: the whole symlinkin /dev/sdb1 to my /cdrom
[06:54] <Ramraid> Hi anyone know how to diagnos  a keyboard  problem  loaded ubuntu the other day 5.10 was working fine . updated and logged out  when i logged in again keyboard and mouse wouldnt work now i cant load any dis but windows
[06:55] <oggy> http://youmakemedia.com/2006/10/13/converting-flv-to-mpeg-in-linux/
[06:55] <greenman> hello
[06:56] <greenman> I'm having problems installing ubuntu.
[06:56] <greenman> I have the newest livecd
[06:56] <billy> !hi greenman
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi greenman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <rusty_> wuts wrong green
[06:56] <greenman> and it loads but everything is very slow.
[06:56] <greenman> and when I click on install, it locks up.
[06:56] <rusty_> laggy slow?
[06:56] <cronik> how much ram do u have
[06:56] <Flannel> duryodhan: You could edit the boot script to do that automatically
[06:57] <rusty_> o the livecd
[06:57] <[Tuxedo] > So, I'm having an issue with the fglrx drivers for ATI...
[06:57] <greenman> rusty_: kinda.  It takes forever to be able to move the mouse
[06:57] <Flannel> greenman: How much RAM do you have?
[06:57] <greenman> and when i click install the time doesn't update after that, like it's completely locked up
[06:57] <cronik> greenman:how much ram do you ahve
[06:57] <duryodhan> flannel : ok thanks .. I will try it out a lil ... will come back here. BTW, I am using extlinux instead of syslinux ... that should n't cause a problem right?
[06:57] <Flannel> duryodhan: I don't see why it would, no.
[06:57] <greenman> cronik: Flannel: I'm checking now.
[06:57] <Jonus_Texas> excuse me folks, but how can i find out if dvd playback is legal in my area?
[06:58] <duryodhan> Flannel: k thanks
[06:58] <rusty_> im unable to access my secondary harddrive
[06:58] <rusty_> doesnt show up
[06:58] <Flannel> rusty_: did you mount it?
[06:58] <[Tuxedo] > It tells me that I do not have a screen, and to fix it. (Oh so helpful..) I went through and changed my xorg.conf to use vesa, now I have little/no refresh rate, and maxed out on my resolution
[06:58] <rusty_> i dont know how
[06:59] <Jonus_Texas> does anyone know?
[06:59] <Flannel> !mount | rusty_
[06:59] <ubotu> rusty_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:59] <rusty_> k
[06:59] <greenman> !fstab
[06:59] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:00] <chipbuddy> so i have kaffeine on my GNOME desktop. is there some way to set a global shortcut so that no matter what program i have active, i can press some sequence of keys and go to the next song?
[07:01] <GigaClon> when I try to open a ogg file in audacity it can't recognize it
[07:01] <corevette> how do i convert avi's to the ipod video format?
[07:01] <docgnome> does anyone have any idea why when I change resolv.conf and then reboot resolv.conf is restored to the original?
[07:01] <docgnome> I'm running it in VMWare Fusion, but I don't think that should make a difference...
[07:02] <shriphani> corevette: i am using thin liquid fillll
[07:02] <shriphani> film ^
[07:02] <`sam`> docgnome, probably dhcp client is getting the dns information from the server and writing the file
[07:02] <shriphani> but its qt based and on ubuntu itmight lead to a whole new concept of problems
[07:02] <greenman> oh...
[07:02] <Tigger_> docgnome, prolly coz it's DCHP
[07:02] <greenman> he only has 256meg
[07:03] <greenman> that's prob not enough to run the livecd is it?
[07:03] <greenman> is there another option for installing?
[07:03] <docgnome> `sam`: what is very strange though is kubuntu is getting an ip address that is outside the range of my dhcp server
[07:03] <Jonus_Texas> why cant ubuntu play dvds?
[07:03] <rusty_> !fstab
[07:03] <docgnome> the only thing I can see is that VMWare is running it's own dns server
[07:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:03] <docgnome> er... dhcp server rather
[07:04] <`sam`> is there some way to do a xdmcp login but still use the devices on the local computer?
[07:04] <rbil> docgnome: see if you can set up the vm to use NAT
[07:04] <greenman> Flannel: did you catch how much ram?
[07:04] <Flannel> `sam`: I don't believe so.  No.
[07:04] <posingaspopular> whos' pining me?
[07:04] <corevette> shriphani what is thin liquid filll
[07:04] <jbr> er mount /dev/fd0
[07:04] <shriphani> corevette: film
[07:05] <`sam`> Flannel, do you know of any other way i can connect a slow machine to a fast one, so i can run some things faster on the slow machine?
[07:05] <corevette> oh
[07:05] <Flannel> `sam`: that doesn't really make much sense, when you think about it.
[07:05] <greenman> is this the only way to install now?  Is there a minimum requirement to run ubuntu now?
[07:05] <greenman> cause I don't think there is enough ram
[07:05] <Flannel> `sam`: you mean use the slow machines peripherals as if they were on the fast machine, right?  Not "use the slow machine, and the fast machine"?
[07:05] <rusty_> i added : /dev/hda1    /media/windows    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=en_US.utf8    0    0 to the fstab
[07:06] <Flannel> greenman: no, the alternate CD is still around.  Textmode, installer only, etc.
[07:06] <reevesj> Flannel: maybe he's talking about a thin client
[07:06] <r4nge> might be obvious but.. why doesnt "iptables -L" show anything about port 22 even though i know it's open accepting ssh
[07:06] <rusty_> didnt do anything
[07:06] <jbr> YES SHRIpani: i cant find channels
[07:06] <r4nge> btw, i'm new :)
[07:06] <greenman> Flannel: any idea how to find it?  Is it on the main ubuntu page?
[07:06] <`sam`> Flannel, i have a slow machine that i want to use it's hard drive and sound card and internet connection, but i'd like to use some of the resources of the faster machine
[07:06] <alex__> does anyone know how i can make the workspace switcher transparent?
[07:06] <Flannel> greenman: it's on the download page, yeah.  You'll need to check "Additional Install Options" if you're grabbing edgy though
[07:06] <cafuego_> r4nge: Coz nothing is explicitly blocked or permitted by default
[07:07] <`sam`> Flannel, the xdmcp thing looked pretty nice except when there was sound it would play on the remote systems speakers
[07:07] <cafuego_> r4nge: it will only have rules if you added them.
[07:07] <`sam`> and also the home directory was on the remote system
[07:07] <greenman> Flannel: this is just for everyday use, interenet, word processing, etc.  Should I get edgy?
[07:07] <rusty_> didnt do anything
[07:07] <abo> is there a command to get hdd sizes?
[07:07] <rusty_> i added : /dev/hda1    /media/windows    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=en_US.utf8    0    0 to the fstab
[07:07] <shriphani> corevette: cafuego has a superb script you can      se
[07:07] <r4nge> ahh, so when i installed openssh server iptables started accepting port 22
[07:08] <rusty_> how do i know that ubuntu found my other hd
[07:08] <docgnome> rbil: ah. That works better. Why didn't I think of that? Thanks.
[07:08] <rbil> dognome: I don't know why u didn't think of that? :-)
[07:08] <cafuego_> r4nge: No, it accepted it all along, there was just no service listing on that port
[07:09] <thelsdj> So seems that by default Totem doesn't stretch videos, i switch to full screen and just get black around small video in the center, thoughts on how to change that?
[07:09] <r4nge> was port 22 closed before i installed ssh server though?
[07:10] <cafuego_> r4nge: Not really, it just wasn't listing on that port.
[07:10] <cafuego_> r4nge: So technically no, but "yes" if I understand what you mean correctly :-)
[07:10] <rbil> rusty_: after making changes to fstab did u do .... sudo mount -a      to reread the fstab and mount the new entry?
[07:10] <cronik> greenman
[07:10] <r4nge> :) thanks
[07:10] <cronik> i think you have a good machine to run it
[07:11] <rusty_> nope
[07:11] <rusty_> but i will
[07:11] <cronik> i have an old hp 900mhz and 256mg and it runs very nice
[07:11] <jbr>  i have a problem with importingTV :(
[07:11] <rusty_> Failed to access '/dev/hda1': No such file or directory
[07:12] <docgnome> where do you set up auto login on kubuntu?
[07:12] <rusty_> thats the message i got
[07:12] <corevette> i get this error when i install thinliquidfilm: NameError: name 'kdedir' is not defined
[07:12] <jbr> i cant fine chnnels at ubuntu
[07:12] <eoX> !offtopic
[07:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:12] <rbil> rusty_: sudo fdisk -l     (that's a lower case L)
[07:12] <rbil> rusty_: will list your partitions
[07:13] <cronik> try cfdisk
[07:13] <cronik> that will show your your partition as well
[07:13] <rusty_> ok
[07:13] <cronik> but i think you need to pick your device first
[07:13] <rusty_> i c my other hd
[07:14] <eoX> is there an offtopic channel for gentoo?
[07:14] <cronik> ex: cfdisk /dev/hda
[07:14] <rusty_> i have files i want to keep
[07:14] <cafuego_> eoX: Why would you think anyone here knows?
[07:14] <rusty_> windows
[07:14] <rusty_> ntfs
[07:14] <cronik> what fily system is in the other HDD
[07:14] <cafuego_> Apart from it being offtopic in any channel *but* gentoo <heh>
[07:14] <cronik> file*
[07:14] <cronik> o
[07:14] <cronik> i see
[07:15] <cronik> you will need to mount it and i think you will not be able to edit any of those files
[07:15] <rusty_> no matter what
[07:16] <high-bass> anyone here have problems where nvidia-settings gets messed up after installing xgl??????
[07:16] <cronik> your best shot is to back those files up and delete everything and convert to ext3
[07:16] <cronik> i had the same problem
[07:16] <cronik> but i could only see the file and read it but no change it ore delete
[07:16] <cronik> maybe someone else can help
[07:16] <rbil> rusty_ do u want to be able to write to that ntfs drive or would you be happy just reading from it?
[07:16] <rusty_> i want to write to it
[07:17] <rusty_> its my file drive
[07:17] <rusty_> for music and such
[07:17] <rusty_> primary is a rapter
[07:17] <rusty_> not alot of gb
[07:17] <alex__> so i recently updated to feisty. and now i recieve "mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file" whenever i call update-initramfs
[07:17] <cronik> the only way you can do that is by having another pc and putting the drive in that other pc and sharing the drive on a network
[07:17] <eoX> cafuego_ haha i typed in the wrong window
[07:17] <jbr> i have a problem with kdeTV :( can some body help me
[07:17] <cronik> thats the only way you can do that
[07:18] <rbil> rusty_: what does fdisk -l show u in terms of the ntfs drive?
[07:18] <rusty_> Disk /dev/sdb: 100.2 GB, 100256292864 bytes
[07:18] <rusty_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12188 cylinders
[07:18] <rusty_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:18] <rusty_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:18] <rusty_> /dev/sdb1   *           2       12188    97892077+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[07:18] <rusty_> /dev/sdb5               2       12188    97892046    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:18] <eoX> !pastebin
[07:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <rbil> rusty_ well your ntfs drive is /dev/sdb5
[07:19] <rbil> rusty_ not hda1
[07:19] <Adlai> bedtime...
[07:19] <Adlai> !beer me
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Adlai> shoot, wrong channel
[07:19] <Adlai> I always forget that
[07:19] <cronik> that dos not change anything really
[07:19] <BelialMkII> hey there, i just installed the nxserver package on a freiends computer over vnc, was wondering how it would eb setup, i can only see icons for the client, and nothing in the shell starts with nx
[07:19] <cronik> he will still  have the same problem
[07:20] <rbil> rusty_ so write your fstab appropriately
[07:20] <greenman> well thanks for the help.  Now I'm downloading the right one.  We'll see how that goes.
[07:20] <rbil> cronik: he's got a driver that will write to ntfs, by the looks of what he's trying to put into his fstab
[07:20] <rusty_> ok
[07:20] <cronik> greenman
[07:20] <cronik> what you did?
[07:21] <xTERMiNATOR> How to boot directly to the terminal?
[07:21] <rusty_> i fixed the fstab
[07:21] <duryodhan> Flannel: its giving me error . "tty not found . Job Control turned off"
[07:21] <rusty_> then entered sudo mount -a
[07:22] <rusty_> got "WARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected. Some driver features are
[07:22] <rusty_>          not available (swap file on NTFS, boot from NTFS by LILO), and
[07:22] <rusty_>          unmount is not safe unless it's made sure the ntfs-3g process
[07:22] <rusty_>          naturally terminates after calling 'umount'. The safe FUSE kernel
[07:22] <rusty_>          driver is included in the official Linux kernels since version
[07:22] <rusty_>          2.6.20-rc1, or in the FUSE 2.6.0 or later software packages,
[07:22] <rusty_>          except the faulty FUSE version 2.6.2. For more help, please
[07:22] <rusty_>          have a look at /usr/share/doc/ntfs-3g/README.Debian. Thanks
[07:22] <rusty_> "
[07:22] <SurfnKid> hello
[07:22] <Flannel> !paste | rusty_
[07:22] <ubotu> rusty_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:22] <SurfnKid> how can i transfer files from one box to another thru ubuntu cli?
[07:22] <SurfnKid> from i.e.  pc to server
[07:22] <SurfnKid> what cli proggy can i use
[07:22] <cronik> Greenman
[07:22] <Lucifell> scp
[07:23] <rusty_> flannel
[07:23] <rusty_> sorry
[07:23] <duryodhan> Flannel: not an error like CDROM not found. This error I am not able to understand
[07:23] <cronik> well guys im going to sleep, have a big day tomarro
[07:23] <rusty_> newbie to irc
[07:23] <cronik> tomorrow
[07:23] <rusty_> i just type !paste or what
[07:23] <cronik> good night everyone
[07:23] <duryodhan> rusty_: go to the URL given ... you will see
[07:23] <rusty_> night cronik
[07:23] <rusty_> ty
[07:23] <rbil> rusty_: I'm not sure what that warning is telling u. You better read the README it refers to.
[07:24] <kalorin> other than grip, is there a good cd ripper/encoder to use?
[07:24] <xTERMiNATOR> How to boot directly to the terminal without starting X?
[07:24] <kalorin> also what's the gold standard today for encoding, lame?
[07:24] <rbil> rusty_: I don't use ntfs, so no experience with trying to work with that file system from Linux
[07:24] <_nnx_> I'm currently using the latest Dapper kernel on a PIII with a GeForce 2 MX.  When I boot, ALL of my virtual terminals are inoperative - they're just blinking cursors.  X is fine.  What's happening and can someone help me fix it?
[07:24] <rusty_> k
[07:24] <Flannel> SurfnKid: How do you want to transfer them? ftp?
[07:24] <SurfnKid> well
[07:25] <SurfnKid> kind of like commander
[07:25] <rbil> rusty_: you certainly don't want to screwup that drive, so make sure you have the correct driver
[07:25] <Flannel> SurfnKid: what protocol?
[07:25] <SurfnKid> one side one file system other side another
[07:25] <SurfnKid> tcp/ip over the network
[07:25] <Flannel> SurfnKid: So... ftp? or what?
[07:26] <jbr> what port to use MSN from kubuntu
[07:26] <SurfnKid> um, yeah but isnt there something that can be used
[07:26] <SurfnKid> to just transfer files easier
[07:26] <SurfnKid> instead of setting up an ftp
[07:26] <SurfnKid> its a home network
[07:26] <Flannel> SurfnKid: er... There's a few protocols.  Whatever method you end up using, you'll need a protocol.
[07:27] <duryodhan> SurfnKid: Ive found setting up ftp is much easier generally
[07:27] <SurfnKid> i see
[07:27] <Flannel> SurfnKid: Especially if it's client/server (and the server is always the server), a client-server model is probably best (ftp or ssh (scp))
[07:27] <SurfnKid> you know how you can use nautilus to transfer files from one pc to another?
[07:27] <SurfnKid> right
[07:27] <Flannel> SurfnKid: right, that still uses a protocol, whether FTP or Samba, or whatever
[07:27] <SurfnKid> scp
[07:28] <GigaClon> when I try to open a ogg file in audacity it can't recognize it
[07:28] <SurfnKid> is scp easier?
[07:28] <Flannel> SurfnKid: scp is ftp over ssh, in a nutshell.
[07:28] <GigaClon> the people in audacity arn't helping
[07:29] <corevette> how do i transfer videos to my ipod? with what program
[07:29] <thirdalbum> GigaClon, do you get an error message?
[07:29] <rusty_> read the readme im ok
[07:29] <rusty_> ima restart
[07:29] <duryodhan> Flannel: the link you gave me for the guide is almost certainly wrong in 1 respect.. can you correct the wiki?
[07:29] <rusty_> bb
[07:29] <SurfnKid> Flannel: i see
[07:29] <Flannel> duryodhan: er... What's wrong about it?
[07:29] <billy> anyone use an asus motherboard?
[07:29] <BelialMkII> yeah billy
[07:30] <billy> BealialMkII, ever have sound issues?
[07:30] <_nnx_> Anyone know anything about disappearing or inoperative virtual terminals?
[07:30] <robert> guys i completely destroyed xserver when i reconfigured
[07:30] <GigaClon> thirdalbum, Audacity didn't recognize the file type. But if plays fine anywhere else
[07:30] <robert> im left with an unresponsive command prompt
[07:30] <duryodhan> flamesrock: without copying ./casper/* to ./* , if you change the extlinux,conf to DEFAULT=/vmlinuz (from DEFAULT=/casper/vmlinuz) then it will say vmlinuz not found ... I had to do /casper/vmlinuz at the boot prompt to make it boot
[07:30] <duryodhan> Flannel: see the subheadings Move files to the root directory and Editing SYSLINUX.CFG
[07:30] <billy> BelialMkII, ever have sound issues? (sorry, mispelled ur name first time)
[07:31] <robert> i was only trying to get 1280x800 resolution on my laptop!!
[07:31] <duryodhan> Flannel: stupid autoid completion- I sent a msg to flamesrock above my previous msg .. did you read that one ?
[07:31] <rusty_> ty
[07:31] <BelialMkII> i dont use thew on board card, but it does work after i set up also for it
[07:31] <rusty_> everyone
[07:31] <rusty_> it works
[07:31] <SurfnKid> Flannel: gonna try scp then n see
[07:31] <rusty_> i have full permissions
[07:31] <Flannel> !scp | SurfnKid
[07:31] <ubotu> SurfnKid: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[07:31] <GigaClon> thirdalbum, any ideas?
[07:31] <billy> xpenguins rules!!
[07:32] <rusty_> ill b baq for nething else
[07:32] <SurfnKid> Flannel: gee thats easy
[07:32] <rusty_> u guys rock
[07:32] <rusty_> ty agian
[07:32] <robert> hello everyone
[07:32] <SurfnKid> Flannel: where does the user@host:filename drop it?  / <-root?
[07:32] <duryodhan> SurfnKid: you dont need SSH if you are on a home network .... vsFTP has basic enceryption built in
[07:32] <nwonknu-> hello
[07:33] <SurfnKid> yeah
[07:33] <eck> SurfnKid: :foo means ~/foo
[07:33] <eck> :/foo means /foo
[07:33] <Flannel> SurfnKid: to the home directory of where you login
[07:33] <zcat[1] > SurfnKid: scp <source> <destination>  ..
[07:33] <robert> i was reconfiguring xserver so i could get 1280x800 resolution...
[07:33] <SurfnKid> eck: exactly what i wanted to know then :)
[07:33] <robert> and i completely destroyed xserver
[07:33] <xerophyte_> is there anyway you can find out which drivers are compiled in the kernel, one of the server i have has kernel which all the drivers and modules are compiled in . is there anyway to list them ?
[07:33] <SurfnKid> okies cool
[07:33] <robert> now i have an unresponsive command prompt, cant do anything
[07:33] <SurfnKid> can you batch?
[07:33] <SurfnKid> like xcopy ?
[07:33] <zcat[1] > SurfnKid: so typically scp user@host:filename .  <- the '.' means copy it to the current directory
[07:34] <thirdalbum> Sorry, GigaClon - the only thing I can think of is that Audacity uses OSS - have you turned off Enlightened Sound Daemon?
[07:34] <eck> scp uses sftp which supports wildcards
[07:34] <SurfnKid> zcat[1] : right
[07:34] <rbil> robert: did u make a backup copy of your last working xorg.conf?
[07:34] <robert> i get no response, no matter what i type :I
[07:34] <eck> well, only *
[07:34] <SurfnKid> cool
[07:34] <robert> i dont have a backup as far as i know
[07:34] <rbil> can u type in a fullscreen terminal?
[07:34] <billy> 8|
[07:35] <robert> i cant pull up a terminal
[07:35] <oggy> there has to be a better way to convert flv to mpeg
[07:35] <eck> and you can do recursive copy with -r
[07:35] <robert> i can type stuff in fullscreen but nothing happens
[07:35] <Flannel> robert: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:35] <oggy> anyone?
[07:35] <GigaClon> thirdalbum, it also looks butt ugly, none of the fonts have aliasing
[07:35] <zcat[1] > oggy: vlc can do it I think?
[07:35] <GigaClon> thirdalbum, it opens MP3 just fine
[07:35] <oggy> k
[07:36] <thirdalbum> GigaClon - Yeah, I know it's butt-ugly, I have it open right now doing the Ubuntu Podcast
[07:36] <thirdalbum> GigaClon - Completely out of ideas
[07:37] <billy> this is cool.  -->  http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/
[07:37] <zcat[1] > funny thing though, I can't get vlc to transcode to ogg.. it crashes. There's a bug report files for it already.
[07:37] <robert> thanks Flannel!
[07:37] <thirdalbum> zcat[1] : I can't get VLC to transcode anything
[07:38] <david__> I cant get samba to show my windows computer in the workgroup, any ideas?
[07:38] <zcat[1] > I can't get kino to import anything either, every file I try the audio/video ends up drifting out of sync even though they're all fine in vlc
[07:38] <docgnome> is there a way to automatically log a user in with out requiring a password? (Yes, yes, I know. Insecure and all that.)
[07:39] <oggy> vlc converts from flv to mpeg
[07:39] <oggy> it converts?
[07:39] <shatrat> mencoder is a better option than VLC I think, but you have to do some reading to learn how to use it
[07:40] <rbil> docgnome: a user other than the main user (first user)?
[07:40] <zcat[1] > docgnome: yes, System > Admin > Login Window,  Security tab, Automatic Login
[07:40] <sue-amaroker> Anyone here able to help me with a USB problem?
[07:41] <shriphani> please explain this to me E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-updates_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:41] <scott__> wine does not like it when I change desktops
[07:41] <scott__> is this a known problem?
[07:42] <sue-amaroker> OK. I have anew motherboard GA-M59SLI-S5, I have to use acpi=off to get it to boot, however I dont have any USB ports. Every device I plug into them just doesnt work.
[07:43] <corevette> how do i transfer videos to my ipod? with what program
[07:43] <docgnome> zcat[1] : is there a way to do that in kubuntu? heh
[07:43] <Flannel> !ipod | corevette
[07:43] <ubotu> corevette: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:44] <shriphani> corevette: i would recommend that you compile the latest version of gtkpod
[07:44] <corevette> shriphani, gtkpod that came from reps doesn't work
[07:44] <shriphani> thats why i said compile it
[07:44] <corevette> which version should i compile shriphani
[07:45] <shriphani> wait corevette this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946
[07:45] <robert> whats the command for restoring xorg.conf ?
[07:47] <x-Dieu> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   --- robert
[07:47] <xerophyte_> is there anyway to find which kernel config option come with this module mptsas?
[07:47] <tunganet> Can anyone help me install java? i am in trouble.
[07:48] <robert> i'm afraid of reconfiguring, thats what started my problem.  Is there a way of restoring to the last working version?
[07:49] <vhaarr> Hi, so, I got a CD burned and when I try to boot from it, using either the "normal" or "safe" mode, I get kicked out into some busybox/ash/whatever shell thing with the message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" (or similar), anyone know what's going on?
[07:50] <docgnome> Is there a way to do autologin in kubuntu?
[07:50] <vhaarr> Someone on the forums said I should try booting using "noapic nolapic", so I tried editing the boot command, which gave me a text entry that ended with " -- ", so I tried adding "noapic nolapic" first after those --, and then before --, and neither of them had any effect.
[07:50] <gabz> yep - docgnome
[07:50] <gabz> depends on what login in manager you use either gdm or kdm --docgnome
[07:51] <docgnome> gabz: I assume it's KDM
[07:51] <docgnome> gabz: since I haven't changed it
[07:51] <shatrat> vhaarr, its not an uncommon problem, I cant remember the solution though, here's a thread concerning it though, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279884
[07:51] <gabz> if you go into the control panel of KDE and look around for the login manger there should be a opion there in the last tab
[07:52] <gabz> i don't have kde in frount of me so i'm not sure
[07:52] <thinkmonkeys> can i install more than one sun-java version or will that break things?
[07:52] <vhaarr> shatrat: Okay, reading that post.
[07:53] <marx2k_> !paste
[07:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:53] <vhaarr> shatrat: Think I should try the alternate CD instead of the "live install" CD?
[07:53] <shriphani> !ffmpeg-dapper
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg-dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <shriphani> !ffmpeg
[07:53] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[07:53] <docgnome> gabz: Ugh. I'm a moron. I couldn't find it because I didn't see that advanced option at the top
[07:54] <shatrat> vhaarr, yeah, I think it would be easier to just do that.  the liveCD is often not worth the trouble
[07:54] <gabz> at least it is sorted
[07:55] <gabz> anyone have a toshiba satellite pro ?
[07:55] <vhaarr> shatrat: yes but it has me a bit confused, because the download page for the alternate CD says " .. allows you to perform certain specialist installations .. ", so I figured the live CD was the recommended one.
[07:55] <vhaarr> shatrat: but thanks a lot, I'll try the "alternate" CD.
[07:55] <docgnome> gabz: I have one in little bits heh
[07:56] <docgnome> gabz: I think it's a pro anyway.
[07:56] <vhaarr> shatrat: Do you, by chance, know if the latest daily images include a 2.6.20 kernel? Anything earlier than 2.6.20 do not work with my motherboard.
[07:56] <vhaarr> or anyone else?
[07:56] <hueblur> hmmmm, curl doesn't seem to be working, but -- its notthrowing any errors.  Any clue how I might troubleshoot?
[07:56] <gabz> i want to get the battery meter in gnome working so i guess the bits won't help me
[07:57] <docgnome> gabz: ah. I hated the screen on it so I only had linux on it to install for another laptop that had no drives
[07:57] <shatrat> vhaarr, ah, no for that you would need to install your own kernel or use feisty
[07:57] <sue-amaroker> OK. I have anew motherboard GA-M59SLI-S5, I have to use acpi=off to get it to boot, however I dont have any USB ports. Every device I plug into them just doesnt work.
[07:57] <vhaarr> shatrat: yeah, I mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20070227/
[07:58] <vhaarr> shatrat: do you know if that one uses 2.6.20? because if you know for sure that it doesn't, it won't work anyway, so downloading + burning it is a waste of time
[07:58] <shatrat> vhaarr, you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <vhaarr> will do
[07:59] <holycow> is anyone else having issue with the 2.0.0.1 firefox upgrade?
[08:00] <vhaarr> shatrat: thank you for your help :) going to download and burn it now.
[08:00] <g0su> hollywoodstar, yo
[08:01] <foxiness> after i disable my wireless "by click on enable ....." on network-manager ,i can not get my wireless up anymore, when i enable it again and go to drop-menu for netwrok name (ESSID): nothing!
[08:02] <bean-oh> !win32codecs
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <bean-oh> !w32codecs
[08:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:03] <gabz> !xsupplicant
[08:03] <ubotu> xsupplicant: 802.1x and 802.11i supplicant (client). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 447 kB, installed size 928 kB
[08:03] <shriphani> guys cannyone help me with an apt problem
[08:03] <caotic> hey quick question, packages for core 2 duo are still branded as x86 ?
[08:03] <shriphani> pissing me off really
[08:03] <nf4> is there any thing worng with using a debian repo ?
[08:03] <caotic> shriphani: what is your problem
[08:04] <gabz> yeah a core 2 duo is still a x86
[08:04] <shriphani> caotic: wait a sec lemme post it to pastebin
[08:04] <caotic> k
[08:04] <Woodstokk> Any Mac users here tonight?
[08:05] <caotic> thanks gabz
[08:05] <shriphani> caotic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7900/
[08:07] <gabz> shriphani: your error message looks like a server time out
[08:07] <shriphani> gabz: nope
[08:07] <shriphani> it comes milliseconds after i type in the command
[08:07] <subzero2000> Woodstokk -> Yeah, I'm on a MacBook right now (although I'm running under Mac OS X at the moment... :) )
[08:08] <gabz> shriphani: have you cleared your apt cache ? besides that i have no idea
[08:08] <caotic> is this the name of your source lists ???? "nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-updates_main_source_Sources"
[08:08] <shriphani> caotic: do i post my sources.list ?
[08:08] <Woodstokk> Can I talk with ya PM about it a bit?
[08:08] <caotic> sure
[08:09] <Woodstokk> (Subzero)
[08:09] <subzero2000> Woodstokk -> sure
[08:09] <Woodstokk> says its blocked
[08:09] <subzero2000> Odd. I'm registered. Let me PM you.
[08:09] <shriphani> caotic:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7901/
[08:10] <Woodstokk> ok
[08:10] <subzero2000> Did you register with freenode.net?
[08:10] <Woodstokk> no I have not
[08:10] <Geoffrey2> can file names start with numbers?
[08:10] <Woodstokk> just came on here tonight
[08:10] <Woodstokk> is that mandatory?
[08:11] <subzero2000> That's why. I ran into the same thing with PMs when I first started on any of the IRC rooms on here.
[08:11] <subzero2000> No, it's not mandatory. Let me get the URL for that for you. You will have fun trying to send PMs until you do, though.
[08:11] <Woodstokk> well that's not too good
[08:11] <Woodstokk> I spose its one way to manage spam though
[08:12] <cafuego_> Geoffrey2: file names can start with (and contain) anything that is not '/'.
[08:12] <gabz> shriphani: when you apt-get update do you get any error messages ?
[08:12] <shriphani> gabz: just a sec
[08:12] <Berto> hey all, i'm finally rebuilding my linux box (been stuck in windows for 3 months)...
[08:12] <corevette> how do i get this? python-gpod:
[08:12] <corevette>   Depends: libgpod0 (=0.3.2-1.1ubuntu1) but 0.4.0-0.0sarge1 is to be installed
[08:12] <Berto> not sure if i want to buy 1 500gb hdd or 2x250gb hdd's... anyone using RAID with Ubuntu??
[08:12] <subzero2000> Woodstokk -> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[08:12] <caotic> shriphani: type the comand 'sudo su' that way you dont have to type sudo at every command you want to run as root
[08:12] <cafuego_> Geoffrey2: Up to and including chnese characters, accenst etc
[08:12] <shriphani> corevette: sarge ??
[08:13] <detectiveinspekt> jpeg in firefox stops working
[08:13] <cafuego_> corevette: You have a debian sarge reposity enabled. Don't.
[08:13] <caotic> Berto: HD's die
[08:13] <shriphani> you using a debian repo ?
[08:13] <Woodstokk> Hmmmm, yeah they are very specific about it
[08:13] <Berto> caotic, i know... i also have my older 80gb drive which will backup the important stuff
[08:13] <Woodstokk> awwww shoot, they don't let me respond
[08:13] <Geoffrey2> cafuego, thanks...still learning what does and doesn't work with Linux, and DOS/Windows used to be REAL picky about stuff like that, if I remember correctly
[08:13] <nprice> I'm trying out feisty for the first time and I'm wondering if there is any way I can get wlanconfig from madwifi using a real package without having to compile everything on my own
[08:13] <Woodstokk> your message came but it doesn't let me
[08:14] <corevette> what is it sshriphani and cafuego what do i go
[08:14] <corevette> do
[08:14] <cafuego_> Geoffrey2: yeah, Linux is pretty much sane in that regard :-)
[08:14] <subzero2000> I think there's a way around that for me, one sec.
[08:14] <Woodstokk> ok
[08:14] <caotic> shriphani: sorry, been a while since i used debian/ubuntu thought it was something more simple :P
[08:14] <caotic> have this sources worked ever shriphani
[08:14] <caotic> ?
[08:15] <corevette> no shriphani
[08:15] <subzero2000> Woodstokk -> try now.
[08:15] <nf4> is it bad to use a debian repo?
[08:16] <nf4> in ubuntu i mean
[08:16] <posingaspopular> nf4: they are both .deb right?
[08:16] <nf4> yes i belive so
[08:16] <posingaspopular> i dont see why not
[08:17] <Ayabara> I try to do an xmodem upload of a file, but I get "Failure executing protocol.". do I need a package to do the actual xmodem stuff?
[08:17] <nf4> its just mono isnt up to date in ubuntu repo
[08:17] <nf4> in debian repo you can get 1.2
[08:18] <andytayloruk> Hi, I've been trying to install ubuntu 6.10 for ages and have just screwed up my partitions
[08:18] <andytayloruk> basically I had to do all of it manually (ntfsresize, fdisK)
[08:18] <andytayloruk> and I got the fdisk part wrong, so now windows wont boot. How do I fix this?
[08:18] <YBH_1> winxp?
[08:19] <Ayabara> found out. I needed lrzsz..
[08:19] <gabz> put in your windows cd and enter recoverly mode
[08:19] <caotic> andytayloruk: what have been your problems with fstab
[08:19] <shriphani> caotic: you still there ?
[08:19] <andytayloruk> caotic: fstab?
[08:19] <caotic> yeah i replied, got no idea
[08:19] <caotic> andytayloruk: err: fsdisk
[08:20] <andytayloruk> um well I had to delete the partition and then create it again
[08:20] <andytayloruk> I must have got the sector lengths wrong
[08:20] <caotic> i c
[08:20] <andytayloruk> because I've got 5 gigs of unallocated space now and an unbootable 34gb ntfs partition
[08:20] <shriphani> caotic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7902/
[08:21] <Phluffy> I've just installed Ubuntu to my computer, which has 2 hard drives. When I go to boot, Grub loads and when I try to boot Ubuntu it tells me something like: Error 22, partition doesn't exist. Also, when I attempt to boot my previously installed Windows XP Pro, it tells me it can't find NTLDR
[08:21] <caotic> shriphani: have any of these sources worked
[08:21] <foxiness> the ubuntu 6.10 on network-manager not has an active/deactive or Default getway, and the last needed to change my access of the internet from not working wireless to ethernet-lan
[08:21] <shriphani> caotic: it is the first time i am downloading a source
[08:21] <ReyOma1> how can make screencast? for video tutorials?
[08:22] <ReyOma1> we can help me?
[08:22] <KenSentMe> ReyOma1, check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[08:22] <caotic> by source you mean source.list or fist time using apt-get. or first time using a third party source.list
[08:23] <shriphani> caotic: first time using apt-get
[08:23] <KenSentMe> ReyOma1, there are a lot of applications to use, they are all listed on that wiki page
[08:23] <caotic> err: by first time
[08:23] <caotic> oh i c
[08:23] <shriphani> i do compile now and then
[08:23] <caotic> try apt-get --update; apt-get --upgrade
[08:23] <ReyOma1> what page?
[08:23] <shriphani> ok
[08:24] <arrenlex> caotic: those aren't switches. apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[08:24] <caotic> i dunno if its that deprecated, but well findo out
[08:24] <ReyOma1> what is the recomendate
[08:24] <shriphani> E: Command line option --update is not understood
[08:24] <KenSentMe> ReyOma1, the link i gave you
[08:24] <gabz> shriphani: there is a error in your apt-get update which means it can't download index files from the server try using a different server
[08:24] <shriphani> gabz: so i just change nl to us or something else ?
[08:25] <sparr> shriphani: its just "apt-get update", no --
[08:25] <caotic> shriphani: what gabz ment is that you need a diferent content for source.list
[08:25] <Phluffy> I've just installed Ubuntu to my computer, which has 2 hard drives. When I go to boot, Grub loads and when I try to boot Ubuntu it tells me something like: Error 22, partition doesn't exist. Also, when I attempt to boot my previously installed Windows XP Pro, it tells me it can't find NTLDR. Any help or suggestions? Looks like an obvious problem with Grub and I'm bad with Grub syntax.
[08:25] <caotic> sorry about that, as i said, long time not using apt
[08:25] <gabz> pretty much mine have my isp because they give me free traffic
[08:26] <shriphani> gabz: can you recommend a good mirror ?
[08:26] <shriphani> the indian mirrors dont have many packages
[08:26] <shriphani> so i was using nl
[08:26] <gabz> nope i go for the one which is in my country in australia we don't have much choice
[08:26] <shriphani> choice ?
[08:26] <shriphani> like not many apps ?
[08:27] <gabz> not many servers in australia
[08:27] <shriphani> hmm
[08:27] <OddieTux> didn't know there was any in aussie
[08:27] <shriphani> gabz: what all do i change to us in my sources.list ?
[08:28] <foxiness> my wireless can not see the access point and then can not enable it and this some info about it : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7904/
[08:29] <andytayloruk> caotic: I set the end of the partition to the current volume size that ntfsresize reported... is that right?
[08:29] <foxiness> it look like hald/dbus can not get it up or something i can not know about it
[08:29] <gabz> the nl means the netherlands i think if you use austrlia in au so i guess the us is nothing... i'll have to google it
[08:30] <shriphani> ok
[08:30] <tj239> Is the 2.6.17-50 kernel the latest update for a while?   Pardon the impatience of a newb but I get tired of issues with my graphics driver having to be re addressed week after week after week?
[08:31] <Phluffy> Where is the Grub boot config file located?
[08:31] <ReyOma1> i no wiki for screencast
[08:31] <gabz> shriphani: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[08:31] <shriphani> just the one ?
[08:32] <noh> hi
[08:32] <noh> 
[08:32] <noh> 
[08:32] <gabz> change all of them
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, hello there
[08:32] <shriphani> gabz: to us ?
[08:32] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Heya. What doesn't work today? :)
[08:32] <noh> any chinese here?
[08:32] <gabz> where do you live what's your closest server ?
[08:32] <zcat[1] > !cn
[08:32] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:32] <Tomcat_> !cn noh
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cn noh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <shriphani> gabz: india
[08:33] <Ademan_> how do you get the ACTUAL amount of free ram you have?  iirc there's a command for it
[08:33] <noh> sorry i'm new here
[08:33] <gabz> ok yeah then change them all to the us
[08:33] <zcat[1] > Ademan: probably cat /proc/meminfo
[08:33] <shriphani> gabz: lol
[08:33] <noh> ^_^
[08:33] <Ademan> thanks zcat[1]  i'll try it
[08:33] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, well, the wireless remains a major pain, but I've kind of given up on that ever being resolved....just have the skinny elephant routine memorized by this point :)
[08:34] <mneptok> Ademan: free -m (or -g or whatever)
[08:34] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Considered getting a different card?
[08:34] <tj239> Is the 2.6.17-50 kernel the latest update for a while?   Pardon the impatience of a newb but I get tired of issues with my graphics driver having to be re addressed week after week after week?
[08:34] <Ademan> thanks mneptok
[08:34] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, that's probably my next purchase for the computer......
[08:35] <Ademan> so the numbers from free represent free ram including ram being used by cached files?
[08:35] <Latitude^> is there a way for windows to be on top of gnome panel? especially when maximized....
[08:35] <[Tuxedo] > Can anyone help with an ati problem?
[08:35] <arrenlex> !ask | [Tuxedo] 
[08:35] <ubotu> [Tuxedo] : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:36] <foxiness> Latitude^: use autohide
[08:36] <Ademan> Latitude^: well i think that lies to the window manager (metacity) i know due to a "feature" in beryl it often lets windows overlap panels
[08:36] <gabz> shriphani: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ that should make it easy
[08:37] <Phluffy> I've just installed Ubuntu to my computer, which has 2 hard drives. When I go to boot, Grub loads and when I try to boot Ubuntu it tells me something like: Error 22, partition doesn't exist. Also, when I attempt to boot my previously installed Windows XP Pro, it tells me it can't find NTLDR. Any help or suggestions? Looks like an obvious problem with Grub and I'm bad with Grub syntax.
[08:37] <[Tuxedo] > In that case: I'm having a problem with an ATI Radeon 9000, using fglrx as the driver, it tells me I don't have a screen. So I went into rescue, changed it to vesa, and the resolution went through the roof, and now everything chops.
[08:37] <tj239> [Tuxedo] , I'm asking my question straightway and  no one responds to me so I can't tell you how helpful the bot statements are
[08:38] <Latitude^> autohide is really helpful. so I assume that's the only way? Ademan: im using compiz
[08:38] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : Have you seen this guide?
[08:38] <arrenlex> !ati | [Tuxedo] 
[08:38] <ubotu> [Tuxedo] : To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <Ademan> Latitude^: unless compiz has an option for it i would say that autohide is the way to go
[08:39] <[Tuxedo] > I've installed the latest already, fglrx tells me that I don't have a screen.
[08:40] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : That doesn't answer my question, which is, have you seen this guide?
[08:41] <[Tuxedo] > Yep.
[08:41] <SurfnKid> is there a volume control (mixer) for cli
[08:41] <SurfnKid> viewable to control all volume levels?
[08:41] <tj239> talk about a cold shoulder, you people are master at it
[08:41] <KennethP> SurfnKid: alsamixer
[08:42] <SurfnKid> ok
[08:42] <SurfnKid> KennethP: how come i cant hear anything :(
[08:42] <arrenlex> !repeat | tj239
[08:42] <ubotu> tj239: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:43] <arrenlex> tj239: Or do you want 927 "I don't know, sorry"s?
[08:43] <SurfnKid> KennethP: its ok thanks though, good proggy
[08:44] <KennethP> SurfnKid: ok
[08:44] <tj239> 927 ?  the latest kernel update is 927?
[08:44] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : And you've gone through the aticonfig commands in particular?
[08:44] <KenSentMe> tj239, he means there are 927 other people in this channel that don't have an answer to your question
[08:45] <SurfnKid> KennethP: got it, stupid PCM was muted
[08:45] <arrenlex> tj239: There are 927 people in this channel right now. None of them happen to know the answer, so they aren't answering you, and you are getting mad.
[08:45] <SurfnKid> :D
[08:45] <arrenlex> tj239: I am telling you that your alternative to not being answered at all is 927 "I don't know"s.
[08:45] <KennethP> SurfnKid: Good!
[08:45] <tj239> KenSentMe, a goodly portion of those people are lurking
[08:46] <ul1024k> lurking in the dark
[08:46] <tj239> arrenlex, I'm asking for one actually
[08:46] <SurfnKid> KennethP: lsmod showed snd is in kernel, but something was weird about it
[08:46] <re-align> Hmm...
[08:47] <KenSentMe> tj239, but what drivers do you use. I only had an issue with an updated kernel once, last week
[08:47] <arrenlex> tj239: Unfortunately our mindlink network is down so we can't coordinate that well. You should try asking on the forums instead, if you can't get answers here.
[08:47] <Ayabara> I have plugged in a Logitech Quickcam, but Edgy doesn't seem to recognize it. lsusb says 'Logitech Inc', and no /dev/video or /dev/video0 has been created.
[08:47] <re-align> I'm running a command line only server and want to change the hostname for it...anyone know what command to use?
[08:47] <uberpavs> quit
[08:47] <arrenlex> !webcam | Ayabara
[08:47] <ubotu> Ayabara: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:47] <foxiness> i have this error when i try to get wlan0 up "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" "ipw2100"
[08:48] <tj239> yeah, 'ask at the forums, you'll get a quicker response"  what a cop-out
[08:48] <gabz> foxiness: try ifconfig eth1 up
[08:49] <tj239> KenSentMe, I use nvidia
[08:49] <arrenlex> tj239: If no one knows, what do you expect from us? o_O
[08:49] <arrenlex> tj239: If you want I can just make up a random number for you. Will that work?
[08:49] <pavs> alas
[08:50] <KenSentMe> tj239, me too, but not much problems
[08:51] <KenSentMe> tj239, and please don't be that negative about the support you get here. We are all volunteers doing the best we can
[08:51] <tj239> arrenlex, maybe someone who is watching that is informed could give a single reply of "we'll get to you"  ... it's just common courtesy
[08:51] <h1st0> sw33t freenode irc on line through java applet.
[08:51] <h1st0> ?
[08:51] <h1st0> maybe not.
[08:51] <klimraamkosie> Question: I'm running Edgy with Beryl and the windows seem to be ontop of the menu drop-down boxes.  How do I fix this?
[08:51] <ubuntu> Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/gnome-panel'
[08:51] <arrenlex> tj239: We're not too busy to answer you! It's just that no one who's currently on knows. So there's nothing for us to say.
[08:51] <ubuntu> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] 
[08:51] <ubuntu> [New Thread -1225791824 (LWP 4834)] 
[08:52] <h1st0> klimraamkosie: beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects
[08:52] <re-align> !hostname
[08:52] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:52] <ubuntu> hey gnome have bug
[08:52] <KenSentMe> klimraamkosie, i have that problem too, and it seems like a bug
[08:52] <shriphani> i have a feeling the ffmpeg source no longer exists in the dapper repos
[08:52] <arrenlex> !bug | ubuntu
[08:52] <h1st0> Whats goign on with the REad errros
[08:52] <ubotu> ubuntu: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:52] <h1st0> shriphani: it has to.
[08:52] <h1st0> !ffmpeg | shriphani
[08:52] <ubotu> shriphani: ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[08:52] <bjornolai> I thonk I have to drivers trying to use my wireless. iwconfig shows both wmaster0 and eth1. How can I find the driver I want to blacklist?
[08:53] <ubuntu> arrenlex it is offline
[08:53] <arrenlex> Oh. So it is. Weird.
[08:53] <KenSentMe> ubuntu, launchpad may be under maintenance at the moment.
[08:53] <zcat[1] > oops
[08:53] <tj239> kensent,  sorry, I thought I'd find someone who was informed and knew
[08:53] <KenSentMe> arrenlex, there was a post about that on the mailinglist
[08:53] <klimraamkosie> KenSentMe: That's not fun, I seem to get it fixed every now and then, but I have to restart X.
[08:54] <shriphani> h1st0: i changed my sources.list thrice since morning trying 3 different mirrors us, nl and ch. all report this E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[08:54] <bjornolai> klimraamkosie, maybe someone in #beryl-effects has a fix. I sometimes get that, but restarting beryl-xgl usually fixes it
[08:54] <foxiness> gabz: after i get back to installed system i will try it "am working from live-cd" thanks for this tip
[08:54] <KenSentMe> tj239, that's why maybe you can better ask this question on the forums, so people have more time to see the question and answer it
[08:55] <KenSentMe> klimraamkosie, i know, maybe ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:55] <arrenlex> shriphani: Are you using edgy?
[08:55] <shriphani> arrenlex: dapper
[08:56] <arrenlex> shriphani: Something weird is going on with your sources.list. What are you\were you trying to achieve?
[08:56] <shriphani> arrenlex: sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[08:57] <arrenlex> shriphani: Oh, I'm not familiar with apt-source, sorry.
[08:57] <tj239> yeah, I can see how forums are less confrontational unlike IRC channels where people wear their hearts on their sleeve
[08:58] <arrenlex> shriphani: You could try easysource -- make sure to check the "source repositories" box on the first screen.
[08:58] <arrenlex> !shripani
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shripani - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <arrenlex> !easysource | shripani
[08:58] <ubotu> shripani: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:58] <arrenlex> xD Sorry, it's late.
[08:58] <arrenlex> shriphani: That was for you. Can't even spell your name right.
[08:59] <arrenlex> shriphani: Or you could just get the tarball from the ffmpeg site and compile it manually.
[09:00] <shriphani> arrenlex: i dont know the depedencies
[09:00] <shriphani> hence the problem
[09:01] <shriphani> and ffmpeg doesnt print any configure errors
[09:01] <shriphani> it just prints errors after i run make
[09:01] <re-align> And of course...I did it in the wrong order...now tot figure out how to fix sudo...
[09:03] <[Tuxedo] > arrenlex : Alright, I've followed everything on that web-page to a T now. At the end, when it says to use fglrxinfo, I get this: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:03] <klimraamkosie> About Beryl and ontop: I just restarted X, so that's all that I can do to solve the problem...
[09:04] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[09:04] <arrenlex> !pastebin | [Tuxedo] 
[09:04] <ubotu> [Tuxedo] : pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:04] <Hellevator> does anyone know what package contains dirent.h for C programming?
[09:04] <arrenlex> shriphani: What are those errors?
[09:05] <watson540> hi can anyone tell me or hekp me find out why whenever i go into runlevel 2 i get masses of the same error saying 'hda: drive not ready for command" hda is my dvd drive..
[09:05] <watson540> its enough to make my fan kick on, just thies one thing is bogging me down good
[09:05] <arrenlex> Hellevator: libc6-dev
[09:06] <watson540> Im pretty sure the culprit is 'dd' cause i see it in top taking up my resources, but why? and how to stop?
[09:06] <Hellevator> arrenlex, i have that installed.  How come when I attempt to compile I get "error: sys/dirent.h: No such file or directory"
[09:06] <shriphani> arrenlex: i got the same errors for apt after using the source-o-matic
[09:06] <[Tuxedo] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7905/
[09:06] <shriphani> i dont think those repos exist
[09:06] <arrenlex> Hellevator: seems to be looking for dirent.h in the sys subfolder of the package you're trying to compile.
[09:07] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : I see. Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[09:07] <shriphani> arrenlex: will you look at  apt-errors ?
[09:07] <arrenlex> shriphani: You did apt-get update, right?
[09:07] <shriphani> yes
[09:07] <Latitude^> everytime i boot ubuntu, it always mounts the Dell utility partition. How do i fix this?
[09:08] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : Wait wait wait.
[09:08] <Hellevator> arrenlex, ah i got it, i needed to remove the sys folder from the path
[09:08] <nutterpc> Mix is going well so far, very well
[09:08] <Hellevator> I hate it when code examples won't run straight off >_<
[09:08] <[Tuxedo] > k
[09:08] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : wtf... this xorg.conf is so tangled up. o_O
[09:09] <nutterpc> anyone a HHC fan in here?
[09:09] <shriphani> arrenlex and everyone who can help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7906/
[09:10] <[Tuxedo] > No clue, truthfully. I installed ubuntu clean, updated it, installed beryl, installed xchat and a couple of games
[09:10] <illriginal> guys... I have this file: BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003  and when I take off the ".003" the file doesn't play... but when I leave the ".003" the file is not recognized.
[09:10] <[Tuxedo] > the most I've done to that file is change fglrx to vesa and what that webpage said, too.
[09:10] <Intangir> what is a good download manager for linux? i used downloader for X before and it .. pretty much sucks
[09:10] <illriginal> guys... I have this file: BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003  and when I take off the ".003" the file doesn't play... but when I leave the ".003" the file is not recognized.
[09:11] <shriphani> Intangir: gwget
[09:11] <[Tuxedo] > changing it to vesa is the only way I can get into ubuntu anyways
[09:11] <amorphous_> could anyone suggest why my wireless has gone down? it shows a good siganl, but if I activate it the signal drops to nothing >:( Is there something stupid I'm doing here?
[09:11] <shriphani> arrenlex
[09:11] <shriphani> an i use the edgy repos ???!!!
[09:11] <shriphani> can ^
[09:12] <Intangir> does it have a firefox 2 extention?
[09:13] <shriphani> erm arrenlex ?
[09:13] <illriginal> can someone tell me how to join files?
[09:13] <illriginal> i need to join 001, 002, 003
[09:13] <illriginal> of a wmv file
[09:13] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : Try this one: http://arrenlex.ls.la/xorg.conf
[09:13] <amorphous_> I can paste the output of ifconfig, iwconfig & /etc/init.d/networking restart if someone can tell me where the pastebin is..?!
[09:14] <pavs> -wget is the best download manager :)
[09:14] <amorphous_> illriginal, you can use >> if you just want to tag it on the end
[09:14] <shriphani> Intangir: nope
[09:14] <illriginal> amorphous what do you mean?
[09:14] <shriphani> you can copy link location though
[09:15] <arrenlex> amorphous_: That doesn't work because wmv files are indexed. It'll only play as far as the table of contents says there is movie left.
[09:15] <arrenlex> amorphous_: As a rule, cat * >> bigfile really only works for text.
[09:15] <illriginal> so is there a way to join these 3 files?
[09:15] <amorphous_> Ahh.. sorry - didn't know it was a movie...
[09:15] <illriginal> yeah it's a video
[09:15] <funpop> how can i unmount a specific usb-device ?
[09:15] <[Tuxedo] > arrenlex - It won't let me save it as xorg.conf?
[09:15] <illriginal> right click it... and click eject.
[09:16] <dean> hallo
[09:16] <arrenlex> [Tuxedo] : Well yeah. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and copy and paste.
[09:16] <amorphous_> arrenlex, illriginal can you use kino or similar?
[09:16] <shriphani> arrenlex: would you advise me to go and use the edgy repos ?
[09:16] <[Tuxedo] > k
[09:16] <illriginal> arrenlex, how do i go about conjoining these three files into 1?
[09:16] <arrenlex> shriphani: Sorry, I don't know.
[09:16] <arrenlex> illriginal: Sorry, I don't know.
[09:16] <arrenlex> xD
[09:16] <dean> ist hier jemand Deutsch bitte melden :-D
[09:16] <arrenlex> !de | dean
[09:16] <ubotu> dean: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:16] <tolmo> Morning people.
[09:16] <amorphous_> fun umount /specific/usb/devicename
[09:16] <amorphous_> ?
[09:16] <arrenlex> 1:16 am
[09:16] <illriginal> ack ><
[09:17] <amorphous_> morning Tomcat_
[09:17] <dean> -.-
[09:17] <gabz> 7:17 pm
[09:17] <dean> hello
[09:17] <amorphous_> morning tolmo
[09:17] <Latitude^> everytime i boot ubuntu, it always mounts the Dell utility partition. How do i fix this?
[09:17] <valehru> hey guys, I try to log into gnome as normal but it keeps stalling on the splash screen (metacity is displayed).  It stalls there then.  The only way I can now log into gnome is via gnome failsafe.  Is there a way I can check and resolve the problem?
[09:17] <shriphani> amorphous_: can you tell me ?
[09:17] <dean> ihr seid alle schwule scke
[09:17] <funpop> yay
[09:18] <amorphous_> shriphani, probably not - what was the question?
[09:18] <funpop> and is there a simple command for me to see for each usb-device if its 1.1 or 2.0 ?
[09:18] <shriphani> amorphous_: can i use edgy repos in dapper
[09:18] <amorphous_> shriphani, not advised
[09:19] <dean> ANWORTET ENTLICH MAL ALLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIN NEU IN DIESEN CHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:19] <amorphous_> shriphani, why do you want to?
[09:19] <shriphani> amorphous_: i just want the ffmpeg source
[09:19] <funpop> dean: /join #ubuntu-de
[09:19] <shriphani> amorphous_: not all.....just multiverse
[09:19] <tolmo> People, I have a problem with a few (very few) applications in ubuntu using some size 14 font for menues instead of the standard fonts I configured for applications and stuff ... anyone know if this is something I can change?
[09:19] <jpjacobs> valehru, try logging in via a virtual Terminal (alt-f1) and remove all the .gconf things. that'll loose gnome-settings too, but at least you can log in.
[09:19] <[Tuxedo] > arrenlex : fglrxinfo still shows a problem
[09:20] <valehru> jpjacobs, thx...
[09:20] <dean> hallo ubotu ich habe ein problem in Linux
[09:20] <valehru> jpjacobs, where are they located?  in the home dir?
[09:20] <funpop> dean, es gibt einen deutschen channel: #ubuntu-de
[09:20] <jpjacobs> indeed
[09:20] <dean> hallo ich bin neu in ubuntu hab ein problem in Linux
[09:21] <dean> s
[09:21] <dean> d
[09:21] <dean> f
[09:21] <dean> aha
[09:21] <dean> funpop ich habe ein problem
[09:21] <someothernick> !german
[09:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:22] <dean> ich kann in ubunto keine spiele installieren
[09:22] <amorphous_> shriphani, can you not upgrade? I don't know much - but I do know that it can create problems. you may get away with it or be able to get it back off again, but I don't really know.
[09:22] <dean> habe alles probiert
[09:22] <amorphous_> shriphani, good luck, either way!
[09:22] <amorphous_> ;)
[09:22] <shriphani> amorphous_: i am on dialup so ............ i hope you understand
[09:22] <amorphous_> can anyone tell me the config file for my network devices?
[09:22] <tolmo> Anyone? Font experts? :)
[09:23] <amorphous_> shriphani, Ahhh... best to get yrself a edgy disk from somewhere/one!
[09:24] <prak> is there anyone here who's familiar with planner?
[09:24] <gordonjcp> shriphani: I'd have thought that Linux would have been fairly popular in India
[09:24] <cbx33> hi guys, got a problem with my laptop I'm hoping someone can help solved
[09:24] <rkyraccoon55> !beryl
[09:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:24] <shriphani> gordonjcp: why would you think so ?
[09:24] <[Tuxedo] > arrenlex : fglrxinfo still shows the same problem
[09:24] <amorphous_> shriphani, and no-one has a connection? internet cafe cant do you a favour & download one?
[09:25] <amorphous_> can anyone tell me the config file for my network devices?
[09:25] <gabz> which network device ?
[09:25] <bobslaede> amorphous_: /etc/networking/interfaces perhaps
[09:25] <shriphani> internet cafes arent too happy to reserve a box for me
[09:25] <gordonjcp> well, you've got a rapidly growing tech industry over there, without the preconceived ideas of the last couple of decades
[09:26] <cbx33> When i try to log into gnome I don;t get the splash screen, but I do get a grey rectangle in the top left corner, where the message about keyboards usually goes.  However there is no text in here at all....no errors that I can see in xsession-errors or in Xorg log.  Any ideas people...PLEASE :p
[09:26] <gordonjcp> shriphani: I mean that's a bit of a generalisation, but essentially you've got pretty fertile ground for developers and users
[09:27] <shriphani> gordonjcp: all MCSE
[09:27] <gordonjcp> shriphani: really?  that's a shame
[09:27] <shriphani> microsoft certified software engineer
[09:27] <shriphani> or w/e it ands for
[09:27] <gordonjcp> shriphani: Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert
[09:27] <shriphani> heh
[09:27] <amorphous_> bobs - thanks. and you wouldn't happen to know why my wireless keeps coming up as disconnected, would you? if I tell it to connect the signal dissappears
[09:28] <bobslaede> amorphous_: sorry, havent tried wireless yet
[09:28] <amorphous_> ok - thanks
[09:28] <shriphani> there is a top class IBM lain b'lore but not much apart from that
[09:28] <shriphani> lab in ^
[09:30] <gordonjcp> yeah, I've dealt with the Bangalore guys quite a bit, when I worked with IBM
[09:31] <Step`> hi
[09:31] <Step`> can someone help me with totem-xine? I've installed it but it says it cannot handle the "vorbis" codec
[09:32] <shriphani> gordonjcp: u were at ibm ?
[09:32] <docgnome> is there an argument for apt-get simmilar to --tries=0 for wget?
[09:32] <Step`> but it seems that the libxine1 package has a vorbis codec (/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.4/xineplug_decode_vorbis.so)
[09:33] <funpop> what would be the best cpu these days for a new desktop pc ?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> shriphani: yeah, until about a year ago
[09:33] <gabz> funpop: define best ?
[09:34] <shriphani> gordonjcp: how is the b'lore lab ?
[09:34] <pavs> how many commands are there in a default linux installation?
[09:34] <shriphani> pavs: hit the tab key twice
[09:34] <shriphani> in a console that is
[09:35] <gordonjcp> shriphani: I don't know, I never went over there
[09:35] <pavs> wow
[09:35] <Madpilot> pavs, probably thousands, once you count the really obscure ones.
[09:35] <gordonjcp> shriphani: the guys that work there seem OK though
[09:35] <pavs> i didn know that
[09:35] <funpop> hmm for a multimedia user..giving the best perfoprmance in multitasking, while beeing very compatible and fast
[09:35] <shriphani> gordonjcp: the quality of work i mean
[09:35] <docgnome> funpop: what do you mean by compatible?
[09:35] <gordonjcp> shriphani: ah, yeah not bad
[09:35] <pavs> i have 2682
[09:36] <re-align> Hmmm...
[09:36] <funpop> forget about it
[09:36] <shriphani> indians rock !!
[09:36] <docgnome> funpop: I would also point out that the speed of a computer has more to do with the memory bus speed than the cpu speed.
[09:36] <Madpilot> Is getting ATI 3D accel in 6.10 as bad as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI makes it look?
[09:36] <grandsolo> hi. all
[09:36] <pavs> anyone knows all the common linux commands here?
[09:36] <gordonjcp> shriphani: depends on what they're doing - we had a large contact centre there doing first line support for a few retail customers (ie shops that use IBM EPOS kit)
[09:36] <jwhitlark> pavs, sure, what do you need?
[09:37] <gordonjcp> shriphani: the actual tech support was pretty good, but their call entry was rubbish
[09:37] <Madpilot> ubotu, cli | pavs
[09:37] <ubotu> pavs: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:37] <docgnome> pavs: my friend the man pages does. ;-p
[09:37] <grandsolo> is there anybody likes photography? I wanna know what are you using to manage the RAW files. e.g. nef for Nikon.
[09:37] <pavs> nah just curious, wondering how long it will take me to learn all of them
[09:37] <shriphani> pavs: why all ?
[09:37] <gordonjcp> shriphani: like, they were supposed to talk the customer through something like (say) a receipt printer with faint print
[09:37] <prak> is there anyone here who's familiar with planner?
[09:37] <shriphani> gordonjcp: ok
[09:37] <jwhitlark> there's not really an all.  there's always more you can add.
[09:38] <Madpilot> pavs, command like basics can be figured out pretty fast; after that you can get as complex as you feel like...
[09:38] <gordonjcp> shriphani: so they'd get the customer to check all the things they were supposed to, and then if that didn't work they'd tell them they'd pass it on to have an engineer out in an hour with a new printer
[09:38] <docgnome> Is there an argument for apt-get simmilar to wget's --tries=0?
[09:38] <Madpilot> command line, not like...
[09:38] <grandsolo> /notice grandsolo hi
[09:38] <gordonjcp> shriphani: which is basically *not* going to happen, and wasn't what they were told to do...
[09:38] <amorphous_> My wireless card is showing no signal unless I disable it. if I disable it it show ful signal. Anyone have any idea what's going on? if i ifup when it shows a signal in network monitor applet it claims unknown interface. if it's enabled (no signal) it looks for DHCP address
[09:39] <gabz> amorphous_: what card is it ?
[09:39] <prak> is there anyone here who's familiar with planner?
[09:39] <amorphous_> gabz, ondoard centrino - has always worked before - perfectly.
[09:39] <ubm> is there somthing going on with the servers im having a hell of a time updating
[09:39] <gordonjcp> shriphani: problem with that then is that 2nd level phone the customer up and get an earful because they've been waiting 45 minutes and still no new printer - and then they're not happy when you explain that they're not getting a new printer and in any case it's going to be within *eight* hours that an engineer comes
[09:40] <pavs> i want to be a sys admin so I guess if I will deal with linux/unix systems I preety much have to know all the basic commands.
[09:40] <gordonjcp> shriphani: not the fault of the guys in Bangalore mind you - it's all down to training (or the lack of)
[09:40] <amorphous_> gabz, it's also only showing up in iwconfig, not in ifconfig (as it used to)
[09:40] <gordonjcp> shriphani: also IBM's internal IT helldesk is in Bangalore, so what does that tell you?
[09:41] <Madpilot> gordonjcp, shriphani - move the offtopic chat to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:41] <shriphani> the bright and the dumb coexist
[09:41] <shriphani> oh sorry Madpilot
[09:41] <pavs> that tells me they r trying to save money
[09:41] <pavs> :)
[09:41] <amorphous_> gabz, I tried to connect to a friends wireless network yesterday - but no joy. Pretty sure i didn't touch any settings, and now I've been fighting with it for the last 3 hours
[09:41] <yomm> Morning !
[09:41] <amorphous_> morn yomm
[09:42] <ubm> from archive.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <gabz> amorphous_: ifconfig -all
[09:42] <re-align> i'm having  a small issue with sudo...
[09:42] <gabz> sorry ifconfig -a
[09:43] <r4nge> to open a port i'm trying "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport PORTNUMBER -j ACCEPT" but nmap still shows it closed, should i be doing something different?
[09:43] <amorphous_> gabz - it's there - is there a pastebin?
[09:43] <amorphous_> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:44] <gabz> amorphous_: ifconfig nameofdevice eg eth1 up
[09:44] <re-align> I get this nice error messsage whenever I try to use it...  sudo: unable to lookup stargazer-server via gethostbyname()
[09:44] <re-align> :(
[09:44] <yomm> I'm having trouble getting Direcrt Rendering to work on Intel915G ,I used the i810 driver in xorg , and edited my xorg.conf to enable acceleration for the card !
[09:45] <jpjacobs> amorphous_, be sure you don't try to connect 2 ways, on 2 nets that have the same IP-range, usually gives problems
[09:45] <amorphous_> gabz - was that it!!!
[09:45] <czas> yomm: it should work out of the box in ubuntu
[09:46] <amorphous_> gabz, it's seems to be working?!?! is that a different thing to ifup eth1 then?
[09:46] <amorphous_> jpjacobs, ok thanks
[09:46] <yomm> czas : I installed using my nvidia pci-e card , would that conflict ?
[09:46] <czas> yomm: i don't know
[09:47] <gabz> amorphous_: i don't know what ifup eth1 is so i can't tell you but i got my centrino to connect to a wpa radius server today so i'm happy
[09:47] <Nalleman> Is there anyone here that uses "screenlets"?
[09:47] <SoulChild> Hey all, i want to install Lilo but how do i remove grub ???
[09:47] <nysosym> http://www.finetune.com/wii/player.php << sooo awesome!
[09:47] <yomm> czas : when i run glxgears  I get the no GLX extension error
[09:48] <shriphani> SoulChild: why lilo ?
[09:48] <SoulChild> shriphani: its faster
[09:48] <amorphous_> gabz - cool - well done that man... I'm still not sure this is working :( - gotta go check - hang on...
[09:49] <SoulChild> !lilo
[09:49] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[09:49] <SoulChild> :S
[09:49] <funpop> man grub ?
[09:49] <Woodstokk> Any Mac users here at the moment?
[09:50] <shriphani> i am sure dapper maa sources and dapper multiverse sources are no more
[09:50] <yomm> Could ayone using a integrated Intel Graphics Chipset (i810 i915..) pastebin his xorg.conf for comparison ?
[09:50] <shriphani> main ^
[09:50] <Nalleman> I wonder what "treat as a widget" in screenlets means. Anyone?
[09:50] <kraut> moin
[09:51] <Madpilot> shriphani, you mean the servers are down? Dapper's got several years of support left...
[09:51] <SoulChild> kraut servus
[09:51] <shriphani> Madpilot: maybe
[09:51] <mo^> is there an option in licq to auto-fetch all away-messages of my buddies?
[09:51] <shriphani> i need a dapper user to confirm it though
[09:52] <pavs> !offtopic
[09:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <nysosym> sry Madpilot, this shouldn't be an ad... :-/
[09:54] <nysosym> i wanna only share my minds about this side
[09:55] <r4nge> k, so i guess the port only shows as open if something starts using it, i opened the port with iptables but nmap showed it closed until i set sshd to use that specific port, then nmap showed it open
[09:55] <r4nge> slowly but surely... i'm getting there
[09:59] <clust> Hi, I updated my dapper server to edgy. After that gnome stoped to working. If I log in under different user the only what appaers is a white box on the left-bottom corner.
[10:00] <bjornolai> After extracting firmware with fwcutter my network appears in network-manager. However I can't connect. I'm stuck waiting for the network key. What should I do?
[10:00] <clust> can anybody help me?
[10:01] <nisq> clust:  That happened to me too, I also loaded kubuntu desktop - did you?
[10:01] <amorphous_> gabz, dont suppose you could paste a copy of your /etc/networking/interfaces for me, could you? I stil have the sam problem :(
[10:02] <gabz> !paste
[10:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:02] <clust> No, I have only gnome and xfce installed. Moreover, I can not start any gnome related program in xfc4: gnome-session, gnome-terminal
[10:03] <clust> nisq: <<
[10:04] <gabz> amorphous_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7908/
[10:04] <unop> !ati
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <Yancho> can apache on ubuntu handle asp pages pls ?
[10:04] <bullgard2> What is a 'CD raw image' of feisty-desktop-i386.iso? The stress is on 'raw'.
[10:04] <[Tuxedo] > Can Ubuntu even run smoothly on a Radeon 9000 Pro with the newest drivers? It's reminding me of running Fedora like 5 years ago on a now 10 year old computer...
[10:04] <nisq> I loaded the xfce also....  hmmm...  sorry.  I am still working on it.
[10:05] <amorphous_> thanks gabz - i'll check it out
[10:05] <[Tuxedo] > bullgard : You use open it with a cd burning utility (like Alcohol 120%)
[10:05] <[Tuxedo] > ack
[10:05] <nisq> if I do a sudo -i    then a /etc/init.d/gdm restart   it sometimes catches
[10:05] <[Tuxedo] > You open it with a cd burning utility as the file you will be burning
[10:06] <gabz> amorphous_: i don't use encryption at home and i'm also on ubuntu 6.10
[10:06] <[Tuxedo] > It does the rest from there.
[10:07] <bullgard2>  [Tuxedo] : Is this proper English "You use open it with "? Say it in other words, please.
[10:07] <unop> why do people leave like that?
[10:08] <jochus> hello, I need the package: "build"
[10:08] <jochus> but it's not the repository
[10:08] <jochus> is there a deb file for it?
[10:08] <HymnToLife> build ?
[10:09] <HymnToLife> Don't you rather mean build-essential ?
[10:09] <jochus>  osc is afhankelijk van build; maar:
[10:09] <jochus>   Pakket build is niet genstalleerd.
[10:09] <[Tuxedo] > bullgard : Not proper english at all, it's 3 AM and I'm tired. Use a cd burning utility to open the .iso file and burn it to a disc.
[10:09] <jochus> it says:
[10:09] <jochus> osc is dependent of build; but: package build is not installed
[10:10] <N1kki> Hi, I was just wondering if anyone knew of a good place to get iptables scripts
[10:10] <HymnToLife> what's that osc packagz ?
[10:10] <HymnToLife> it is not in the Ubuntu repos
[10:10] <HymnToLife> N1kki, #iptables maybe ?
[10:10] <jochus> openSuse command tools
[10:10] <bullgard2>  [Tuxedo] : Thank you.
[10:10] <jochus> to be able to communicate with the Build Service
[10:11] <clust> nisq: Yes, the same problem, gnome sometimes starts after gdm restart
[10:11] <N1kki> lol, thanks, had no idea there was a dedicated chan
[10:11] <amorphous_> gabz, i'm the same, but no joy with your interfaces file either  (to tell the truth it's pretty much the same as mine... :(
[10:12] <clust> I checked the log files, but I can not see any error.
[10:13] <yomm> open sound control ?
[10:13] <amorphous_> gabz, as soon as i try to enable it the siganl goes to zero and i get no DHCP - if I ifup (usually brings up the connection) it says 'no such device'???!
[10:13] <yomm> !osc
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <gabz> amorphous_: what line do you use to enable it ?
[10:14] <N1kki> no answer in that channel
[10:15] <clust> nisq: I tried to purge ubuntu-desktop, gdm, gnome and reinstall, but nothing.
[10:15] <amorphous_> gabz, been using the gui, but usually ifup eth1. have used your ifconfig eth1 up - but no joy there either. Also - get a lot of output from /etc/init.d/networking restart... - not pretty but not much relating to eth1
[10:16] <jochus> yomm: no, openSuse commandline toosl ;-)
[10:16] <jochus> http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/CLI
[10:16] <yomm> jochus:I see :)
[10:17] <gabz> amorphous_:  double check you haven't turn the card of on a external switch my toshiba has a button on the frount
[10:17] <yomm> Jochus , u might have better luck asking an a #suse channel :)
[10:17] <gabz> amorphous try doing everything in the command line iwconfig eth1 essid "$networkname"  then ifconfig eth1 up
[10:17] <jochus> already did that
[10:18] <amorphous_> gabz, so does mine - but it seems to be on - ifconfig can see it.
[10:18] <jochus> they said yesterday I have to ask here
[10:18] <yomm> Jochus : ask about a suse tool on  "ubuntu ?
[10:18] <yomm> Jochus : I guess you could always try :)
[10:18] <jochus> ok
[10:18] <jochus> I found it
[10:18] <jochus> it's here: http://software.opensuse.org/download/openSUSE:/Tools/xUbuntu_6.06/all/
[10:19] <jochus> now it works
[10:19] <amorphous_> gabz, that is the only thing I did yesterday when trying to connect though. turn it on/off. I've tried it quite a few times today.... no joy. either nothing - or only a signal when disconnected
[10:19] <noh> hello every one
[10:20] <gabz> amorphous_ sorry i'm out of ideas my next idea is restart the laptop i have a toshiba satellite pro and i've not had your problem
[10:20] <nisq> clust: thanks, I was going to try that, but since this was a new install.  I am going to start over.  Less time for me.  And I always make the home a separate partition.  not much lost that way
[10:21] <yomm> Hi noh
[10:21] <amorphous_> gabz, i've restarted  countless times. been at it for over 3 hours - was up @ 530! still - thanks for yr time & help...
[10:22] <amorphous_> gabz, will have to try again later. - i'll get me head down on it fr a bit. thanks again ;)
[10:23] <gabz> amorphous_ good luck
[10:23] <amorphous_> thx gabz
[10:23] <amorphous_> ;)
[10:24] <k31th> MOrning.
[10:27] <brosio> hey guys is it normal that my gnome-panel crashes many times ?
[10:27] <brosio> hey guys is it normal that my gnome-panel crashes many times ? i don't known what shoul i do
[10:28] <Mr_Pan> good morning
[10:29] <jbr>  what port to #yahoo from kubuntu Or kopete guys??
[10:31] <funpop> !offtopic
[10:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:31] <ozfrog> hello ---------  GRUB question
[10:31] <gabz> anyone know about acpi and gnome power manager ?
[10:32] <jseattle> could someone please tell me how to obtain "build-essential"
[10:32] <ozfrog> at last general update, my default GRUB OS has been changed to " ubuntu memtest86+ " I can't recall where the relelvant GRUB file lies so I can alter this
[10:33] <mojo> brosio: no it's not normal... could have to do with something you've added to the panel, perhaps?  unf. i don't know exactly where, but there is a configuration set somewhere in your home directory regarding the panel config..  may be able to rename it so you get a 'vanilla' panel set up again
[10:33] <flaccid> hey guys anyone know which packages are the equiv of mysql-shared and mysql-devel ie. i need mysql libs and headers?
[10:33] <mneptok> ozfrog: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:33] <funpop> !sources
[10:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:33] <ozfrog> thanks mneptok
[10:34] <funpop> !EasySource
[10:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:34] <mneptok> flaccid: aptitude search mysql
[10:34] <flaccid> mneptok: many results.
[10:35] <r4nge> are the packages you install through apt saved anywhere in a list, so you know what you put in
[10:35] <mneptok> flaccid: aye. enjoy. :/
[10:35] <flaccid> mneptok: quite a few that are possibilities
[10:35] <jnotaro> hi, my sound seems to be mono instead of stereo, someone could help me with it?
[10:35] <flaccid> if i was enjoying i wouldn't of come in here...
[10:35] <mneptok> flaccid: aptitude show $packagename
[10:35] <Lynoure> jnotaro: I probably cannot help right now, but out of curiousity is that on 5.1 sound system?
[10:36] <jnotaro> No no, its a normal one
[10:36] <jnotaro> Lynoure, It started alone, at first it doesn't work then I have installed some drives with automatix
[10:36] <jnotaro> then started to work, but its mono
[10:38] <jnotaro> when I switch to windows then it is stereo
[10:38] <funpop> where is the source.list located ?
[10:38] <funpop> or is it sources.list ?
[10:38] <jnotaro> /etc/apt
[10:39] <jnotaro> btw you can do "locate source.list" anyway
[10:45] <bravelion> hello any jpilot users here?
[10:46] <bravelion> where can i find the location of my jPilot files on my hard drive?
[10:47] <matti> Valiante: Just ask :)
[10:47] <Valiante> This is both the first time I've ever used IRC
[10:48] <Valiante> And I'm extremely new to Linux (let alone Ubuntu)
[10:48] <bravelion> what command must i do in terminal to find folders named "jpilot"?
[10:48] <matti> Valiante: No worries :)
[10:48] <matti> Valiante: What's the problem?
[11:17] (ozfrog/#ubuntu) nisq and the preferred O.S. has "savedefault" option, but GRUB still doesn't like it and points to the first O.S. on the list as if default = 0
[11:17] (nisq/#ubuntu) I am trying.  ???    I always have a floppy grub setup if anything goes bad..
[11:17] (nisq/#ubuntu) ozfrog:  maybe its over my head sorry
[11:17] (ozfrog/#ubuntu) yomm - no - just scrolled down to what I wanted
[11:18] (ozfrog/#ubuntu) nisq no matter - thanks for trying
[11:18] (yomm/#ubuntu) ozfrog : try that and see if it boots anything
[11:18] <gbjk> Morning
[11:18] <Anician> Anyone here use Ext2 Volume Manager?
[11:18] <ozfrog> yomm it boots OK - it's just that it doesn't point to my preferred O.S. - always to the first on the list ( instead of the last )
[11:18] <d64> sorry.. if anyone answered my raid question (on ahci, intel), i didn't see it, was disconnected for some time
[11:19] <yomm> ozfrog : If you then find the right drive to boot , edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst accordinglt
[11:19] <yomm> ozfrog : If you then find the right drive to boot , edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly *
[11:19] <ozfrog> yomm - yes - why I'm here
[11:19] <ozfrog> yomm I have edited the menu.lst as follows
[11:19] <yomm> ozfrog : then u need to set default boot ::)
[11:19] <ozfrog> default		saved
[11:20] <Anician> how come I can't tick "Permanent mount point" in Ext2 Volume Manager?
[11:20] <yomm> I think also in /boot/grub/menu/lst , but imm not 100% sure
[11:20] <ozfrog> yomm and only O.S. that has the savedefault entry is the one I'd like to boot from
[11:20] <yomm> ozfrog ; did it suddenly stop booting or ,what did u do ?
[11:21] <gbjk> Anyone seen a newb I sent in here/
[11:21] <gbjk> Valiante, or something like that?
[11:21] <holycow> everyone here is a noob
[11:21] <nisq> ozfrog:  I will try again.   change the default=listcount-1     4th os = default = 3
[11:21] <holycow> its a veritable popourri of noobiness
[11:21] <ozfrog> yomm No, it boots OK. It used to boot automatically into Windows with Ubuntu as a possible alterative
[11:21] <holycow> pick a noob any noob
[11:21] <holycow> 2 for 1 special!
[11:21] <gbjk> I sent him in here to look at stripping procs out of a desktop version that's now a server.
[11:21] <holycow> we'll wrap them up even!
[11:21] <holycow> all day noob special!
[11:21] <nisq> oh how I love noobs
[11:21] <holycow> ....
[11:21] <gbjk> holycow: Do I get a discount for take away or eat in?
[11:21] <ozfrog> Then, after rthe last update, it started booting into ubuntu memtest86+ and " hanging"
[11:21] <holycow> oh i could go on
[11:21] <holycow> :)
[11:21] <Anician> do you edit the menu.lst~ file with notepad?
[11:22] <holycow> gbjk, sure, a fork is included
[11:22] <holycow> -_-
[11:22] <gbjk> heh.
[11:22] <ozfrog> Now it boots into the ubuntu kernel - by deafault - and not into W_2K as I'd like
[11:22] <nisq> hehe
[11:22] <gbjk> fork--
[11:22] <yomm> I see !
[11:22] <gbjk> The problem is already too many processes ;o)
[11:22] <ozfrog> Anician no with Gedit as root
[11:23] <gbjk> which bot?
[11:23] <nisq> ozfrog  with option on the list do you want to start with...   you could easily cut and paste you prefered
[11:23] <nisq> to the top
[11:23] <daya> where can i found lan driver for Marvell Technology
[11:23] <gbjk> seen valiante?
[11:23] <gbjk> holycow: Where be infobots?
[11:23] <holycow> !help
[11:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:23] <gbjk> Ah, there's the chap.
[11:24] <gbjk> Valiante: How did you get on?
[11:24] <holycow> uh oh
[11:24] <holycow> i smell mirc
[11:24] <Valiante> sorry
[11:24] <gbjk> There was only one I was really dubious about, that was hald.
[11:24] <gbjk> holycow: meh, bitchx and *cough* windows don't work well ;o)
[11:24] <holycow> ... because you know, a large camel would hurt
[11:25] <ozfrog> nisq what I've done - wish I could paste this to you somewhere :(
[11:25] <gbjk> holycow++ # into perl already
[11:25] <holycow> i no scprehensy perl
[11:25] <nisq> ozfrog:  just a moment
[11:25] <gbjk> What's hald for? Other than the stated man desc?
[11:25] <gbjk> I have a feeling server only wouldn't need it.
[11:26] <Ubuntu_man> Hi, who could tell me where ubuntu saves it hibernate file?
[11:26] <gbjk> For a start, not one of our centos servers has anything resembling it?
[11:26] <holycow> why are you u sing ubuntu for a server tho? try debian
[11:26] <holycow> anyway offtopic, hald if i remember correctly is the hardware abstraction daemon
[11:27] <gbjk> holycow: Cos it's friendly and had desktop mode to get started with.
[11:27] <gbjk> holycow: Yeah, that bit I knew.
[11:27] <Hellevator> when I open up some files for viewing in vim every line has a ^M at the end.  Can anyone tell me why this is?
[11:27] <holycow> if so, it helps with hotplugable devices, which are usefull even on servers
[11:27] <gbjk> "provides the org.freedesktop.Hal service through D-Bus"
[11:27] <holycow> right
[11:27] <gbjk> That's generally useful?
[11:27] <gbjk> holycow: Why would debain be preferable?
[11:28] <holycow> never had to plug in a usb cd burner to burn off some data because you were too lazy to open up the case, rip out a scsi raided hd to image?
[11:28] <gbjk> ( Personally I'm a CentOs gal right now, though )
[11:28] <Ubuntu_man> Who could tell me where ubuntu saves it hibernate file? WHO CAN HELP ME?
[11:28] <nisq> ozfrog:  I have got 5 different OS's with three harddrives.  I multipulate the grub all the time... The default is what I change
[11:28] <holycow> gbjk, because ubuntu FREEZES off of debian UNSTABLE every 6 months
[11:28] <gbjk> holycow: In 1Gb we trust ;o)
[11:28] <holycow> and only officially supports like 2k packages
[11:28] <holycow> which a: is insane for server, yo udon't run servers off of unstable debian period
[11:28] <gbjk> packages-- # No way of finding what's wrong.
[11:28] <gbjk> Sorry... say that AGAIN.
[11:29] <holycow> second debian will support 16k packages, 2k for ubuntu is just not acceptable imho
[11:29] <gbjk> ubuntu freezes off UNSTABLE?!
[11:29] <holycow> but thats just me
[11:29] <holycow> right
[11:29] <ozfrog> nisq do you use Default = a number or Default = saved and put " savedefault in your preferred O.S.
[11:29] <holycow> not only does it do that, it DOES IT EVERY 6 MONTHS
[11:29] <gbjk> That's insane. Why not just use stable?
[11:29] <holycow> try and imagine what that means
[11:29] <holycow> well i have asked
[11:29] <holycow> no one can answer me
[11:29] <gbjk> I'm trying NOT to, thank you, I want to sleep.
[11:29] <nisq> ozfrog:  default=number
[11:29] <holycow> ubuntu officialles get very defensive when you ask
[11:29] <gbjk> Well in that case, CentOs would be a better way to go for a server.
[11:29] <holycow> just try an official like mailing list
[11:29] <ozfrog> nisq OK I will try that instead
[11:30] <gbjk> But this is a VERY low-usage server.
[11:30] <gbjk> I think ubuntu will do fine.
[11:30] <nisq> I know nada about savedfault - sorry
[11:30] <ozfrog> of saved = default
[11:30] <gbjk> lighttpd + fastcgi, maybe postgresql
[11:30] <gbjk> Nothing big.
[11:30] <ozfrog> nisq _ OK BBL
[11:30] <holycow> gbjk, yep i agree, ubuntu project thinks its okay to have 6 month cycles for server PLUS freeze off of debian unstable and only support a smallish number of packages
[11:30] <gbjk> karma ubuntu?
[11:30] <holycow> i can't explain it
[11:30] <holycow> gbjk, for that you should be fine probably
[11:31] <gbjk> I've actually never BEEN on a debain, come to think of it.
[11:31] <holycow> gbjk, try it, you might like it
[11:31] <gbjk> CentOs, redhat, gentoo, and a few others.
[11:31] <holycow> wow your a glutton for punishment
[11:31] <gbjk> Might have been on debain without knowing, come to think of it.
[11:31] <nisq> is debian a FSSTAND?
[11:31] <gbjk> many clients use things I'm barely aware of.
[11:31] <gbjk> centos is okay.
[11:31] <holycow> may i suggest a  nice helping of debian to get you out of your compile and rpm dependency hell?
[11:31] <holycow> seriously
[11:31] <gbjk> We're mostly v-serving right now. I think centos has some particulars that support that well
[11:31] <nisq> or should I say uses a FSSTAND
[11:32] <gbjk> (openvz)
[11:32] <holycow> gbjk, linux is linux
[11:32] <holycow> the biggest diffs are philosophy an dpackage managers
[11:32] <nisq> Linux is the kernel
[11:32] <gbjk> holycow: See earlier. PACKAGES--
[11:32] <gbjk> source++
[11:32] <gbjk> I do not ever, under any circumstances, use packages.
[11:32] <holycow> centos yeah sure is virtually identical to rhel but damn you must be insane to do the rpm dance
[11:32] <gbjk> and eat @minions that do.
[11:32] <holycow> but then again, you run gentoo :)
[11:32] <holycow> lol
[11:32] <holycow> gbjk, ah in that case you don't need debian or any distro
[11:33] <gbjk> heh.
[11:33] <gbjk> NO PACKAGES!
[11:33] <holycow> gbjk, i don't have time for that
[11:33] <gbjk> good LORD man, it's not like I haven't been singing it.
[11:33] <gbjk> For starters, I'll need to patch the fsck out of lighttpd's core.
[11:33] <nisq> gbjk then you use sources?
[11:33] <gbjk> it does nasty nasty things with expect-100
[11:33] <holycow> Valiante, you DON'T DOWNLOAD packages on linux mostly
[11:33] <gbjk> yes.
[11:33] <holycow> Valiante, as a newb PLEASE USE TH EBUILT IN REPOSITORIES
[11:33] <Valiante> apt-get ?
[11:33] <holycow> Valiante, trust me,  you wont live long enough to try all of them
[11:33] <Valiante> i tried that
[11:33] <holycow> yes
[11:34] <holycow> its in there
[11:34] <nisq> gbjk - I think I need a teacher,   know where one exists?
[11:34] <gbjk> But, as I said, we need source of lighttpd.
[11:34] <Valiante> # apt-get lighttpd
[11:34] <Valiante> E: Invalid operation lighttpd
[11:34] <holycow> make sure to enable all the extra repos
[11:34] <gbjk> nisq: Sarcasm?
[11:34] <holycow> yes of course dude, enable the other repos
[11:34] <nisq> gbjk:  nope reality
[11:34] <gbjk> Valiante: I gave you a tgz url to wget.
[11:34] <gbjk> nisq: No idea where to find a teacher, depends what of.
[11:35] <gbjk> If you're suggesting C, then go to hell ;o)
[11:35] <mcphail> Valiante: apt-get install lighttpd
[11:35] <Valiante> that was last night - that's long gone
[11:35] <mojo__> holycow: Valiante:  maybe using Synaptic might be easier for Valiante as a "newb"...  it is GUI and is easy enough to search for stuff like "lighttpd" and have a list of pkgs to click/browse as opposed to apt-cache searching
[11:35] <mcphail> Valiante: you missed out the "install"
[11:35] <gbjk> WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP TEACHING HIM TO PACKAGE INSTALL LIGHTTPD.
[11:35] <gbjk> Everything else is fine, but not lighttpd.
[11:35] <gbjk> heh
[11:35] <mojo__> !capitals
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capitals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <Valiante> GUI's no good for me...  using ssh
[11:35] <gbjk> How hard is it... ./configure && make && make install
[11:36] <holycow> mojo__, leave me out of your discussions, of course synaptic would be easier
[11:36] <gbjk> Valiante++ # No Gui.
[11:36] <gbjk> I got the main answer, though, HALD stays.
[11:36] <Ubuntu_man> Who can help me with 1 little question???
[11:36] <Nesco> Does anybody know about audio editing programs for Ubuntu.. FruityLoops like?
[11:36] <gbjk> Well.. meh.
[11:36] <holycow> gbjk, this is a distro that makes your life easy
[11:36] <holycow> we don't teach noobs to package anything
[11:36] <mojo__> holycow: sry man i didn't see that stuff, am back from a netsplit
[11:36] <holycow> that is left for their own devices
[11:36] <gbjk> Not really going to hot plug anything, maybe no hald is okay.
[11:36] <Ubuntu_man> Who can help me with 1 little question???
[11:37] <gbjk> holycow: Sure. Easier is good. Not when said package will install something that won't work without patches.
[11:37] <holycow> gbjk, just out of curiosity, why are you so weird about silly things like hald?
[11:37] <Valiante> yeah - so holycow told me earlier
[11:37] <Nesco> .j #ubuntu-nl
[11:37] <gbjk> holycow: It's top of top ;o)
[11:37] <holycow> gbjk, it won't make a bit of differenc either way
[11:37] <nisq> gbjk:   does that always work?
[11:37] <ujank> hh
[11:37] <gbjk> And ram is low, it shows. Don't want it swapping away - no room for psql.
[11:37] <nisq> the make install thingy
[11:37] <gbjk> nisq: No. If it did there'd be no &&
[11:37] <gbjk> && prevents it doing an unconditional make or make install
[11:37] <nisq> ahhh
[11:37] <gbjk> errors are your friend.
[11:37] <holycow> hald will save you like a few k maybe a meg
[11:38] <holycow> your definately a gentoo blue blood :)
[11:38] <gbjk> holycow: Exactly.
[11:38] <holycow> lol :)
[11:38] <holycow> i'm buggin ya
[11:38] <holycow> whatever works
[11:38] <ujank> fr
[11:38] <yomm>  I'm running Edgy with i 915D graphix chipset ..glxinfo gives me : Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display "0:0"..all glx related stuff is ( i think .. :) ) installed . Any hints ?
[11:38] <gbjk> Actually, First 4 years were redhat only.
[11:38] <gbjk> The FIRST time I saw a linux gui was about a month ago.
[11:38] <nisq> gbjk:   any good web tutorials on make install?
[11:38] <gbjk> After EIGHT years.
[11:38] <gbjk> nisq: No, mostly cos it's down to the source. vi INSTALL
[11:38] <gbjk> or README
[11:39] <holycow> gbjk, obviously you don't do graphics or anything in that layer of data manipulation
[11:39] <Valiante> gbjk: can i have that wget again please?
[11:39] <nisq> gbjk:   Thanks I needed that
[11:39] <gbjk> holycow: Not on linux, no. web stuff or windows stuff, yes.
[11:40] <gbjk> Valiante: Shortly, I need to work a bit.
[11:40] <holycow> *nod* yeah i do everything on linux, well welcome to the desktop experience
[11:40] <gbjk> lighttpd.net has it. 1.4.13 source
[11:40] <Valiante> ok - i should be really
[11:40] <holycow> gbjk, why are you trying ubuntu? just curious
[11:40] <gbjk> holycow: Mum's pc had 500mhz and 128mb of ram. Needed new OS.
[11:40] <Valiante> i'm gonna go work...
[11:40] <holycow> gbjk, STOP telling noobs to compile crap on their own.
[11:40] <holycow> jesus
[11:40] <Valiante> catch you all later
[11:40] <gbjk> ubuntu-- # Needed alternate image for 128 install, lost cd
[11:40] <holycow> let them actually learn how to do the basics first
[11:41] <gbjk> ubuntu-- # needed another 128mb ram for gnome to be happy.
[11:41] <holycow> you will have him hose his system and we will haveto listen to the whining while he's reinstalling
[11:41] <nisq> holycow:  Thanks
[11:41] <gbjk> holycow: I thought nisq was trolling, to be honest ;o)
[11:41] <holycow> no i'm not kidding
[11:41] <holycow> this isn't gentoo
[11:41] <gbjk> I only told ONE newb to compile from source, and that's because this package requires it.
[11:41] <holycow> if you want to teach people gentoo try #gentoo
[11:41] <holycow> otherwise help with running ubuntu on the regular
[11:42] <nisq> gbjk:  sorry  I didnt mean to be.  Actually I am asking about tutorials - truthfully
[11:42] <unop> the difficulties of compiling from source are overstated and overhyped most of the time
[11:42] <Valiante> maybe i should use a different linux dist
[11:42] <Valiante> reinstall and start again
[11:42] <nisq> I trying to keep within ubuntu forum
[11:42] <holycow> Valiante, use any one you want
[11:42] <Valiante> but i've no idea what's best
[11:42] <Valiante> all i want to run is a web & mail server
[11:43] <holycow> there is no best
[11:43] <holycow> its all the same
[11:43] <yomm> ./configure --help is your friend
[11:43] <nisq> I also use suse, fedora, as the learning process.   I try gentoo, but that got me completely lost
[11:43] <holycow> the biggest differences between distros are basically packaging and the preinstalled components off the bat
[11:43] <gbjk> Valiante: nah, you're fine with what you've got.
[11:43] <gbjk> Oh, yes, fedora too.
[11:43] <holycow> Valiante, if you want you can build your own linux distro from scratch.  google up linux from scratch.
[11:43] <Valiante> :-o
[11:43] <nisq> ubuntu is a great learning experience
[11:44] <holycow> Valiante, also don't listen too much to guys like gbjk , he means well but doesn't have a clue about teaching
[11:44] <gbjk> heh
[11:44] <Valiante> haha
[11:44] <gbjk> holycow: :p I have a class here, actually.
[11:44] <holycow> they will have you try a 1000 distros and drag you through a billion config issues just to get you into getoo
[11:44] <holycow> i'm not kidding
[11:44] <nisq> gbjk:  where be the class?
[11:44] <gbjk> Our office.
[11:44] <nisq> gbjk:  not online?
[11:45] <nf4> i think the best way to learn is get told how to do somthing and figure it your self
[11:45] <gbjk> Actually, only 1 today.
[11:45] <holycow> gbjk, then damnit dude, give the noob an actual chance of succeeding at a basic config
[11:45] <gbjk> heh.
[11:45] <Faithful1> Is Avahi install by default in Feisty?
[11:45] <gbjk> holycow: Ubuntu installed. He used the desktop till he was comfortable. Now he's got it running monitorless with sshd, which is fine.
[11:45] <gbjk> As I see it, it'll run fine as a server.
[11:45] <clust> nisq: Did you solved the problem?
[11:45] <gbjk> And as you said, apt-get makes it easy for him. :D
[11:45] <holycow> gbjk, well allright then
[11:45] <holycow> :)
[11:46] <gbjk> To my mind, ubuntu == linux server + training wheels
[11:46] <Valiante> yes and i did it all myself!  (haha)
[11:46] <gbjk> It'll run dovecot or something like that just fine.
[11:46] <gbjk> And lighttpd is... well ... light
[11:46] <gbjk> jan++
[11:46] <gbjk> holycow: BTW, I wouldn't ever suggest anyone tried more than one distro, btw.
[11:46] <gbjk> Choose the right one first. Get it right first time.
[11:46] <mheath> gbjk, I don't agree with that. Strip Ubuntu's desktop components and what your left with is largely a lot of stuff grabbed from debian repos
[11:46] <gbjk> This server needs more ram, though.
[11:46] <holycow> gbjk, sorry was thinking you were going in that direction
[11:46] <holycow> :)
[11:47] <gbjk> mheath: Your point?
[11:47] <gbjk> Critically, if something goes wrong he can gdm start and fix it friendilyily.
[11:47] <gbjk> mheath: What's wrong with bloated libraries if runprocs are slim?
[11:47] <jim__> hey, I'm trying to mount a harddrive connected through a external usb adapter. Cant get it working at all. There is nothing in /dev (shouldnt I be able to see /dev/sda1 or something??
[11:49] <reuna> jim_: try lsusb
[11:49] <yomm> jim : normally , yes , mb its your adapter thats not recognized ?
[11:49] <Latitude^> how do i stop edgy from mounting the Dell partition utility every time I boot it ?
[11:49] <yomm> Anyine running Edgy with integrated intel graphics here ?
[11:49] <jim__> reuna: err my usb mouse is working?
[11:50] <reuna> how about sudo fdisk -l
[11:50] <felix_> !de
[11:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:50] <digitalspaghetti> hi there - does anyone know where i can find a tutorial on how to connect to drives on a microsoft network?  i need to be able to connect to my work network
[11:51] <holycow> digitalbh, PLACES / NETWORK SERVERS should get you there
[11:51] <jim__> <reuna: nope doesnt show there either?
[11:51] <finalbeta> holycow: one more tab!
[11:51] <digitalspaghetti> i've searched the forum, but everything seems to be about mounting drives on the same PC
[11:51] <finalbeta> digitalspaghetti: PLACES / NETWORK SERVERS should get you there
[11:51] <holycow> digitalspaghetti, try what i told you
[11:52] <reuna> jim_:how about sudo fdisk /dev/sda1
[11:52] <holycow> finalbeta, lol, one more tab, haha
[11:52] <holycow> yeah 972 people in here
[11:52] <holycow> :)
[11:53] <jim__> Unable to open /dev/sda1
[11:53] <digitalspaghetti> HAHA, finalbeta thanks - i didn't know it was THAT easy
[11:53] <finalbeta> digitalspaghetti: np, glad I could help you.
[11:53] <finalbeta> holycow: ^^
[11:53] <finalbeta> :p
[11:53] <gbjk> holycow: I have to get back to work. Thanks for the conversation.
[11:54] <gbjk> I'm not normally on freenode, but if I am I'll be in lighttpd.
[11:54] <gbjk> Though I might return for ubuntu help if I ever need it :o)
[11:54] <holycow> gbjk, no worries :) welcome. chat alter
[11:54] <gbjk> Helping would be nice, obviously, but I have too many others to help.
[11:54] <pjero> Hello all Im looking for some help ! My M2N32 _SLI Deluxe MoBo's integrated sound card isnt detected..... (asus)            any suggestions ?
[11:55] <nisq> gbjk:  Thanks for the advice
[11:55] <holycow> digitalspaghetti, cool stuff, welcome :)
[11:55] <reuna> jim_: are U using usb-hub?
[11:55] <gbjk> nisq: The others were right, though. You should only install from source if you have a good reason.
[11:56] <gbjk> My good reason is simple: I frequently want to change the source of the things I'm installing, or see what they are doing.
[11:56] <jim__> reuna: nope, straite into the back of my comp (i dont think its usb 2.0 tho)
[11:56] <gbjk> Doing so is much easier if the source that was actually installed is readily available.
[11:56] <gbjk> If you aren't going to do that, then there's much less reason to install from source.
[11:56] <nisq> gbjk:  Sometimes it works....   but if it doesnt...   I end up using a package manager
[11:56] <gbjk> Exception being if you're installing something like apache, and want it to work with several lower modules, which need compiling at the sametime.
[11:57] <nisq> gbjk...   the ubuntu LAMP tutorials are great
[11:57] <drumline> LAMPs are only useful when they are 300 watts or better.
[11:57] <gbjk> buzzwords annoy me.
[11:57] <gbjk> Especially ajax.
[11:58] <gbjk> poxy middle management.
[11:58] <nisq> gbjk   Linux Apache Mysql PHP
[11:58] <unop> lol
[11:58] <drumline> gbjk: you need to call it something...
[11:58] <gbjk> I don't mind the acroynm.
[11:58] <gbjk> s/yn/ny/
[11:58] <gbjk> I mind the buzzword culture around it.
[11:59] <nisq> gbjk   versus WAMP   Windows Apache MysQL PHP
[11:59] <drumline> whatever gbjk :)
[11:59] <gbjk> They get all excited about it, and come and ask you "Are we using LAMP", when you've been running exactly that for 10 years.
[11:59] <gbjk> As if "LAMP" is something that will make their business go better.
[11:59] <reuna> jim_: This thread might help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371789&highlight=can%27t+mount+usb+drive
[12:00] <unop> gbjk,  aye, it will -- the keyword itself brings in a wealth of luck that your business processes can do with :)
[12:00] <nisq> gbjk    the ubuntu LAMP tutorials are great
[12:00] <gbjk> I guess: It breeds dumb-understanding. Knowing a simple short word that you can use in meetings to make you sound like you know what you're talking about when you really have no fscking idea.
[12:00] <drumline> gbjk: that's because they didn't understand what LAMP is/was.  It has nothing to do with buzzword culture...  it's straight-out misunderstandings.
[12:00] <pjero> Hello all Im looking for some help ! My M2N32 _SLI Deluxe MoBo's integrated sound card isnt detected..... (asus)            any suggestions ?
[12:00] <gbjk> heh
[12:00] <gbjk> AJAX annoyed me much more than "LAMP"
[12:00] <nisq> alsamixer?
[12:00] <berent> hello All
[12:01] <ALMimoni> i want that site makes banners like this http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/50322-Ubuntu%20User.png
[12:01] <berent> Can anyone help me with sound drivers
[12:02] <berent> I dont have any sound coming out
[12:02] <berent> although i can hear system beeps
[12:02] <xeternal> hello
[12:02] <berent> from my system
[12:02] <xeternal> anyone here
[12:02] <berent> hi xternal
[12:03] <Enselic``> Has 'ban' anything to do with 'bannered'?
[12:03] <xeternal> anyone use feisty right now
[12:03] <Enselic``> xeternal: many
[12:03] <xeternal> hi berent
[12:03] <GenNMX> I must be stupid, as I cannot figure out how to sort ps by %MEM.
[12:03] <unop> Enselic``,  thats such a random question .. how can you expect anyone to answer that?
[12:03] <elkbuntu> xeternal, join #ubuntu+1 for feisty discussion
[12:03] <xeternal> have you encounter problem with firefox when opening some websites
[12:04] <berent> hi I am using edgy and I have problems with sound plugins
[12:04] <berent> can anyone help me
[12:04] <ALMimoni> any one know witch site make banners like this http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/50322-Ubuntu%20User.png
[12:04] <nisq> berent:  sometimes the sound is set low,  If you use the alsamixer to check it?
[12:04] <xeternal> it exit without any warning
[12:04] <berent> nisq i checked it its fine
[12:04] <elkbuntu> xeternal, did you see what i said?
[12:04] <nisq> cool
[12:04] <xeternal> yes
[12:04] <berent> nisq its not cool
[12:05] <nisq> oh its not fine?
[12:05] <berent> nisq yes there is no sound
[12:05] <nisq> sorry
[12:05] <nisq> but the alsamixer show it working?
[12:06] <nisq> ??
[12:06] <berent> nisq when i open volume control :it says no gstreamer plugins or no soundcard
[12:06] <jim__> reuna: no that thread assumes that I can see it when I do sudo fdisk -l, which I cant. (As with most other documentation I can find)
[12:06] <unop> GenNMX,  top can do that
[12:06] <mojo> ALMimoni: problably just used the gimp
[12:06] <nisq> I tried a search, but could not find anything sorry
[12:06] <berent> nisq : alsamixer has all parts unmuted thats it .It doesnt show anything
[12:07] <mojo> ALMimoni: or any other bitmap paint program
[12:07] <ALMimoni> mojo: i know but i want site i remember i saw it
[12:07] <berent> nisq : what all can we check from alsamixer btw?
[12:08] <nisq> berent  try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy   ???
[12:08] <mojo> ALMimoni: sry i haven't seen a site like that... if you remember anything unique about it you might feed into google for a search, beyond stuff like "graphic banner forum generate" and such
[12:09] <ALMimoni> mojo:ok thx
[12:09] <rlj> i'm going to set up a simple samba file server also acting as a PDC. but apart from file serving over samba, it won't do other server duties. any reason why i should install the server edition of ubuntu rather than from the desktop cd? (i already have one of those). cause i will probably install a desktop environment on the system anyway because i want to be able to browse files and burn dvd backups easily
[12:09] <felix_> When left-clicking on a PDF file/link in Firefox, and then choosing "Save to HDD" in the dialog, then an empty file of the appropriate name is created, and nothing else ever happens. What's wrong? "Save link as ..." (link context menu) works perfectly, as well as "Open with ...".
[12:10] <holycow> rlj, no real difference at all.  whatever you are comforteable with.
[12:10] <mneptok> rlj: OpenOffice? yuck.
[12:10] <holycow> rlj, server edition and desktop are the same, server edition just removes the preconfigured desktop packages
[12:10] <pseudoroot> OOo = bad?
[12:10] <holycow> no
[12:10] <holycow> oo is actually amazing
[12:10] <mneptok> rlj: get the server CD and aptitude install xubuntu-desktop, imo
[12:10] <scv> ooOOoo
[12:10] <holycow> we dropped it because it actually works better than msoffice for most uses
[12:11] <unop> holycow,  removes? it doesnt have them in the first place :)
[12:11] <holycow> people rag on oo mostly because they don't understand it and because they have some vague notion about how unlcean the code is
[12:11] <osfameron> OO?
[12:11] <rlj> mneptok: i'll remove ooo, no need for that
[12:11] <pseudoroot> OO seems ok, for what I do at least :)
[12:11] <osfameron> ah, OOo.  It's fairly horrible.  OK for the price though.
[12:12] <holycow> yeah people who say that simply haven't learned how to use it
[12:12] <holycow> mostly people think its msoffice
[12:12] <mneptok> holycow: i understand OO.o better than most. and for a Samba/PDC server with browser, OO.o asd its updates are not something i'd want. *shrug*
[12:12] <scv> umm it's good for a java-free box
[12:12] <holycow> and don't understand that everything is a style
[12:12] <holycow> it make s ahuge difference in experience
[12:12] <rlj> cause it won't be a lot of pain disabling services like X on startup, no? (using 6.10 on upstart)
[12:12] <holycow> to learn oo one really needs a mentor, its very advanced
[12:12] <rlj> on a normal boot, i prolly only want it to monitor a UPS and do file serving. no need to launch X
[12:12] <osfameron> 2.0 was a quantum leap up from 1.0.  Maybe 3.0 will actually be usable and not crash all the time.
[12:12] <holycow> mneptok, indeed, just adding info for anyone that might not be aware *nod*
[12:13] <holycow> you must use it on windows
[12:13] <rag> holycow: yeah?
[12:14] <pseudoroot> I couldn't get Base to work well in windows though. (Version 1.x or 2 beta?? haven't tried lately)
[12:14] <holycow> yeah base isn't ready for general use, it probably shouldnt' of been released but its good to get it tested
[12:16] <pi_> hi guys
[12:16] <pi_> someone know pureftpd?
[12:17] <idefix> is it better than the other clients?
[12:17] <mneptok> ftp! eeeeeek!
[12:17] <pi_> eh eh
[12:17] <pi_> do you know it?
[12:17] <idefix> no
[12:17] <pi_> :-(
[12:17] <pseudoroot> ftp is unsecure! lol ;)
[12:17] <holycow> pureftpd is a server btw
[12:17] <mneptok> pi_: i hate to do it, but rather than answer i'll ask why no sftp/scp.
[12:18] <pi_> I need to manage a lot of virtual users
[12:18] <pi_> pureftp+mysql
[12:19] <bravelion> how can i recover some files that have been written over?
[12:20] <bravelion> written over by the same programe
[12:20] <rlj> my net just died. but are there any problems just removing ooo after a stock ubuntu desktop 6.10 install? or does it pull a lot of unwanted libs which can be hard to track down?
[12:20] <mneptok> pi_: ldap + ssh ;)
[12:20] <mneptok> rlj: never tried. but the package system shouldn't allow that.
[12:21] <holycow> rlj, none
[12:21] <mneptok> (note i did not say "won't")
[12:21] <rlj> mneptok: what do you mean? as long as it gets tp take away ubuntu-desktop as well, it shouldn't complain about removing ooo etc?
[12:21] <pi_> I've a made a webinterface to manage the users, and all works fine on a server but not on another server, I don't wont to change everythings
[12:23] <mojo> i used to be afraid to remove stuff that wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop until i started to understand what meta-package meant
[12:24] <rlj> i wish there was a nice way for apt to know about libs not needed by installed packages anymore. so it could at least offer to delete them
[12:25] <steven43126> hi
[12:25] <pi_> hi steven
[12:25] <steven43126> anyone had ubuntu running on a HP proliant ML350 G5 ?
[12:26] <steven43126> Hp says it's supported by debian sarge, ubuntu is based on debian would it be safe to assume ubuntu is also supported then ?
[12:26] <pseudoroot> one way to find out - run the live CD :)
[12:27] <steven43126> pseudoroot, id like to find out before i order it ;)
[12:27] <pseudoroot> ah, good reason i guess if you can't dl it
[12:28] <Latitude^> how do i stop edgy from mounting the Dell partition utility every time I boot it ?
[12:30] <mojo> rlj: autoclean?
[12:30] <mojo> rlj: there is something but it only on the tip of my tongue...
[12:31] <mojo> rlj: deborphan or gtkorphan maybe?
[12:33] <pjero> how do i force edgy to detect my sound card ? (integrated on M2N32 - SLI Deluxe MotherBoard.)
[12:34] <GenNMX> Why does Xorg take up so much CPU when displaying things quickly in an X terminal?
[12:34] <holycow> GenNMX, because you don't have an accelerated driver
[12:35] <nicko> Hi, I'm confused..What should I use to partition my 160GB WinXP drive to prepare for ubuntu??
[12:35] <GenNMX> holycow: I'm using Xinerama, so I guess that's why?
[12:36] <holycow> GenNMX, xinerama even with accelerated drivers only does gl on one screen ... so maybe
[12:36] <pseudoroot> nicko:  you could wait and partition during ubuntu installation
[12:36] <holycow> try the one that is accelerated
[12:36] <GenNMX> holycow: What do you mean?
[12:36] <holycow> nicko, although its recommended that you use something like partition magic
[12:36] <holycow> GenNMX, your running dual monitors right? otherwise no reason to run xinerama right?
[12:36] <pseudoroot> ...but don't pay them for it ;)
[12:37] <GenNMX> holycow: I'm running three montiors, yes.
[12:37] <holycow> if so, even if you have nvidia accelerated drivers, only one monitor will actually support ogl
[12:37] <nicko> mm.. I read this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning but it's confusing
[12:37] <holycow> thus stuff on non accelerated monitors will see a performance difference
[12:38] <holycow> if your not using accelerated drivers ... then by definition yeah you might still get performance issues
[12:38] <pseudoroot> nicko:   keep reading until its not confusing :)
[12:39] <pseudoroot> haha
[12:39] <nicko> What's the best way? make ubuntu partition it automatically, or I do it manually.. my prob is that i've never came across partitioning
[12:39] <bonii> i want to set up a local repository for Dapper packages from where people from my college can udate and upgrade their system. Can anyone tell me any mirrors from where I might rsync it??
[12:39] <holycow> nicko, do it manually using PARTITION MAGIC.
[12:40] <digitalspaghetti> one thing - is there a way to get ubuntu to automatically pick up my wifi network?  I need to keep manually switching them in system->admin->networking  thats the only thing i think windows does better, unless i;m just missing something
[12:40] <holycow> nicko, our partitioner doesn't have proper support for ntfs,  you can loose everything
[12:40] <holycow> you have been warned
[12:40] <holycow> make sure of course that you have backup even with partition magic
[12:40] <bonii> i want to set up a local repository for Dapper packages from where people from my college can udate and upgrade their system. Can anyone tell me any mirrors from where I might rsync it??
[12:40] <Daverocks> holycow: i don't know what ubuntu uses, but the gparted live CD is great with ntfs. more reliable than partmagic IMO
[12:41] <holycow> bonii, go to howtoforge and look up how to make a repository on there
[12:41] <boardman> ?
[12:41] <holycow> they have all the info
[12:41] <holycow> actually the gparted is NOT great with ntfs
[12:41] <bonii> Can anyone tell me any Dapper mirrors which offer rsync
[12:41] <holycow> you have simply been lucky
[12:41] <nicko> ok, so how should I set it up? just create 1 different partition? or more
[12:41] <GenNMX> holycow: I'm using a G400 for my two main screens, and acceleration is enabled by default. Google seems to think that the mga driver supports acceleration on both heads.
[12:41] <HymnToLife> holycow, yes, ot os
[12:41] <HymnToLife> it is, even
[12:41] <bonii> holycow, I will be using apt-mirror I just want to know the mirror
[12:41] <holycow> HymnToLife, what is?
[12:42] <HymnToLife> gparted with ntfs
[12:42] <holycow> if you are talking about gparted, then the answer is no re: ntfs support on repartitioning
[12:42] <holycow> sorry, wrong
[12:42] <bonii> holycow, I will be using apt-mirror I just want to know the mirror
[12:42] <holycow> HymnToLife, i don't mean that in a personal way
[12:42] <nicko> so how should I set it up? just create 1 different partition? or more
[12:42] <holycow> i just mean that the g1 driver or whatever its called is kinda sorta at 1.0, whatever that means
[12:42] <pseudoroot> nicko:   one part for root (/) and one for personal files (/home) is a good way to start (also a swap part, of course)
[12:43] <holycow> and its not actually part of any distro, particularly ubuntu
[12:43] <bonii> Can anyone tell me any Dapper mirrors which offer rsync
[12:43] <holycow> there is no way you can repartition an antfs partition without risk of loosing data, ntfs is proprietary and no one in the open source world has money to pay ms to gain access to that data
[12:43] <holycow> beside ms would never agree to a gpld tool anyway
[12:43] <HymnToLife> holycow, I agree about that one (it's 3g btw) but what does it have to do with gparted ?
[12:43] <holycow> HymnToLife, without it you can't resize an ntfs partition
[12:44] <HymnToLife> there is no way you can repartition _anything_ without a risk of data loss
[12:44] <AstekCBE> you can with partition magic lol
[12:44] <AstekCBE> but you need to be in windows :(
[12:44] <pseudoroot> nicko:   though just one root partition and one swap will suffice
[12:44] <HymnToLife> I've resized NTFS partitions with gparted countless times without any problem...
[12:44] <nicko> pseudoroot: ok thx, i planned the swap for 1GB, then where do install ubuntu, home or / ?
[12:44] <holycow> well of course, but repartitions still means a resize which still means some bits and things moving around a bit.  if you don't have ntfs support you DON'T have reliablity
[12:44] <holycow> no dude listen to me
[12:45] <holycow> you have just been lucky
[12:45] <AstekCBE> you didnt have the ntfs security enabled then within windows
[12:45] <pseudoroot> nicko:   /
[12:45] <AstekCBE> or a defragged drive
[12:45] <HymnToLife> I've been lucky countless times then :p
[12:45] <holycow> keep on doing that enough without proper driver support and app awareness of what has to happen in ntfs to do it right you will eventually get caught.  its bad advice to tell noobs otherwise
[12:45] <Daverocks> holycow: ok, so how is partmagic _more_ reliable? i heard partmagic uses some ntfsresize code too.
[12:45] <holycow> its irrelevant to the discussion.
[12:45] <holycow> this is a help channel
[12:45] <holycow> we haveto give noobs reliable information
[12:45] <holycow> lucky is not an appropriate piece of advice
[12:46] <holycow> thats for #windows
[12:46] <nicko> pseudoroot: so / should be the amount I want to assign to ubuntu, and home just a directory?
[12:46] <AstekCBE> haha
[12:46] <HymnToLife> Daverocks, PM is far less reliable than gparted, at least as far as my experience goes
[12:46] <Askar> jhi! How do I know if I have a swappartition?
[12:46] <HymnToLife> Askar, sudo fdisk -l
[12:46] <holycow> Daverocks, partimage is more reliable because they paid a licence fee to get proper ntfs support in the product via payment to ms
[12:46] <AstekCBE> lol you will
[12:46] <holycow> i'm not sure what part of that is a mystery
[12:46] <digitalspaghetti> Anyone?  one thing - is there a way to get ubuntu to automatically pick up my wifi network?  I need to keep manually switching them between WOrk/home in system->admin->networking  thats the only thing i think windows does better, unless i;m just missing something
[12:46] <Daverocks> HymnToLife: same here
[12:46] <holycow> on one in the open source world can afford that and ms simply wouldn't agree to a gpl'd fee
[12:47] <holycow> so every time you BUY partion m ... you pay ms a royalty to their ntfs apis
[12:47] <finalbeta> digitalspaghetti: the next ubuntu version should be able to do that. Although it's doubtfull it will do it properly
[12:47] <AstekCBE> wait for 7.04 digitalspaghetti
[12:47] <holycow> thats how its more reliable
[12:47] <pseudoroot> nicko:   /home can be a directory on the root partition, or on a separate partition.
[12:47] <elias> what is the best video media player for KDE? (I run Kubuntu, but I don't like Kaffeine)
[12:47] <HymnToLife> KMplayer
[12:47] <holycow> digitalspaghetti, try network-manager
[12:47] <holycow> its in the repos
[12:47] <nicko> pseudoroot: so what is the point of /home?
[12:47] <Daverocks> elias: kaffeine is probably the most popular video player for kde, but yeah, kmplayer is good too
[12:47] <HymnToLife> can be used as a frontend for Xine and mplayer, unlike Kaffeine
[12:47] <Askar> I have "Linux", "Extended" and "Linux swap / solaris" Is that correct?
[12:48] <Chousuke> nicko: it's the place where users' home dirs are.
[12:48] <elias> ok, thanks a lot, i try this one
[12:48] <Chousuke> nicko: it's pretty much standardised.
[12:48] <pseudoroot> nicko:   /home is where all your user specific config files are stored. if it's on a different partition, then you don't have to lose it if you decide to reformat and reinstall over your root partition
[12:48] <digitalspaghetti> finalbeta: thanks, suppose i can put up with it for now
[12:48] <HymnToLife> and as all stadards, you're free not to respect them
[12:49] <HymnToLife> you will just look like an idiot :p
[12:49] <digitalspaghetti> i just wish it wouldn't keep overwriting my /etc/hosts file though every time
[12:49] <digitalspaghetti> (i've CHMOD 444'ed it today though, hopfully that'll stop it)
[12:49] <Askar> My partitions is: "Linux", "Extended" and "Linux swap / solaris" Is that good?
[12:49] <nicko> pseudoroot: so should it be larger than / ?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> digitalbh, something overwriting your /etc/hosts definitely is a bad thing
[12:49] <Chousuke> nicko: that depends on what you wany
[12:49] <bonii> I am running fsck on my /home it generates buffer i/o error is it a hard disk problem??
[12:49] <HymnToLife> if I were you, I'd remove it _now_
[12:50] <Lucifel> Could anyone tell me why I would be able to ping/reach one host by name or IP but not another?
[12:50] <techie1> good monring. Can anybody guide me as to the numbers to use in Gparted. Once I get to the resizing part I have no idea what to do. I have windowx xp with fat32 (not NTFS) with 55.86 gig in xp and free space of 25.65 g.
[12:50] <digitalspaghetti> HymnToLife: it seems to be the Networking manager
[12:50] <Lucifel> The Ubuntu machine is the only one on the LAN with this problem?
[12:50] <pseudoroot> nicko:   it dpends. if you just use it for config files it doesn't need to be large
[12:50] <bonii> I am running fsck on my /home it generates buffer i/o error is it a hard disk problem??
[12:50] <HymnToLife> then it runs as root and chmodding /etc/hosts won't change
[12:50] <digitalspaghetti> as I use my laptop at work and home, every time I switch between them thats when it gets overwritten
[12:50] <RealUser27343440> bantuin dung instalasi dual boot
[12:50] <HymnToLife> hail to Gnome :p
[12:50] <AstekCBE> bbs
[12:50] <AstekCBE> cya
[12:50] <digitalspaghetti> so i have to go back in an add my alias's again
[12:51] <HymnToLife> I wonder why it would overwrite it though
[12:51] <Chousuke> nicko: If you're going to store bigger files in your home directory, then you should give it some space.
[12:51] <Fracture> feisty rocks !
[12:51] <rlj> installing off desktop live cd now anyway, since it'll take a while to download the server cd. in case i do want it after all, it might have finished downloading once i'm annoyed enough with the desktop cd..
[12:51] <Chousuke> I usually give / 5-10GB and /home a 100GB or so, depending on how much space I have.
[12:52] <digitalspaghetti> do you think i should report it?  it's repoducable every time on my pc
[12:52] <nicko> pseudoroot: the point is "will i be able to access them win winxp?"
[12:52] <HymnToLife> digitalspaghetti, what do you do exactly besides just switching networks ?
[12:52] <Chousuke> but you could also have / be 5GB, /home 5GB, and then have another partition for your data that you mount at /data
[12:52] <pseudoroot> nicko:   no, /home will be linux file system (though there are drivers for xp to read it... but i don't recommend)
[12:53] <digitalspaghetti> HymnToLife: nothing.  For example, when I am at work, if I have to reboot, or if I am heading home on my commute and I have my laptop on, it's fine
[12:53] <Chousuke> pseudoroot: the ext2 driver is safe
[12:53] <digitalspaghetti> but as soon as I get home and switch onto my home wifi network, my own alias's disappear
[12:53] <techie1> Any help with gpart?
[12:53] <digitalspaghetti> same on the reverse part of the journey
[12:54] <pseudoroot> Chousuke:   very well. :) ... but I prefer to use a fat32 drive to share data
[12:54] <Chousuke> nicko: if you want your data accessible from Windows easily, then do as I said and make a separate partition for data which you format fat32
[12:55] <unop> digitalspaghetti,  what do you mean by aliases there?
[12:55] <Kaso> I was trying to recover my Ext3 superblock for the god knows how many time, but i'm now getting these results when i try to go through the process i ususally do: http://pastey.net/7356 is my data dead?\
[12:55] <pseudoroot> nicko:   i agree with Chousuke's last statement :)
[12:55] <digitalspaghetti> unop: i use my laptop for local development
[12:56] <digitalspaghetti> so for example i'd add a like like this
[12:56] <digitalspaghetti> 127.0.0.1 phpmyadmin localhost
[12:56] <digitalspaghetti> so in firefox, i only have to type phpmyadmin to take me there
[12:56] <HymnToLife> then no wonder it edit /etc/hosts if you tell it to ;)
[12:56] <snoukkis> so I've been running edgy for few weeks now.. I like it.. but I'm having trouble with opengl.. when in fullscreen mode I only get crappy refresh rates (below 60Hz).. My graphics adapter is Radeon X550 (RV370).. Any tips where to begin troubleshooting?
[12:57] <nicko> Chousuke: that's what im trying to do.. so i should partition / 40gb , /home 5gb, swap 1gb, and what as fat32?
[12:57] <digitalspaghetti> ahh HymnToLife - that would be the 'Hosts' tab at the end of the Networking panel then
[12:57] <digitalspaghetti> i should add it there, instead of gedit'ing my /etc/hosts ?
[12:57] <KillerT> nicko why fat32?
[12:57] <Chousuke> nicko: / is too big probably.
[12:57] <pseudoroot> 40 GB is huge for /
[12:58] <HymnToLife> should be the same, as far as I know
[12:58] <nexous> Hey, is there a console like program where I can set the whole thing to transparency rather than just the body text?
[12:58] <Chousuke> nicko: how much space do you want to allocate?
[12:58] <Chousuke> total
[12:58] <HymnToLife> nexous, you'll have to use a compositing WM for that
[12:58] <KillerT> nexous: u mean the title bar and stuff?
[12:59] <nexous> KillerT: yes, I'm using Konsole right now, but the body is only transparent.
[12:59] <_Roman> I have a Brother HL-1230 printer connected via the parallel port.  I am running Ubuntu 6.06. I can print a test page fine, but when I print from an application all I get is a blank page.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[12:59] <nexous> HymnToLife: I'm using gnome.
[12:59] <nicko> Chousuke: i have 160gb hd, about 90gb for win and the rest about 50gb for ubuntu
[12:59] <Chousuke> nicko: okay
[12:59] <HymnToLife> gnome is a Desktop Environment, not a Window Manager ;)
[12:59] <nexous> :D xwindows maybe?
[12:59] <Chousuke> then do 5GB for /, 5GB for /home, 1GB for swap and the rest for /data
[01:00] <HymnToLife> nexous, nope, the WM you're using is Metacity, default in Gnome
[01:00] <KillerT> nexous: I use beryl for my wm to support transparent title bars
[01:00] <HymnToLife> you'l have to use Compiz and friends
[01:00] <nicko> Chousuke: okay for 40gb for / or /home?
[01:00] <digitalspaghetti> HymnToLife, unop : thanks v much - i think i may have solved my problem
[01:00] <HymnToLife> or switch to KDE because KWin can do it natively :)
[01:00] <Chousuke> nicko: why?
[01:00] <nexous> 'and friends'?
[01:00] <Chousuke> nicko: you could store all big files on /data instead of /home or /
[01:00] <digitalspaghetti> i'll only know tonight when i get home.  but one thing i am learning about Ubuntu - just keep looking
[01:01] <unop> digitalspaghetti,  yw (eventhough i didnt help much) .. :)
[01:01] <HymnToLife> !compiz
[01:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <pseudoroot> nicko:   root install is only like 2 to 3 GB... you shouldn't need 37 GB for growth :)
[01:01] <KillerT> HymnToLife: I believe u can in metacity too
[01:01] <Chousuke> nicko: and if you make /data a fat32 partition, it's accessible from windows too
[01:01] <nicko> Chousuke:now it's getting confusing.. another partition /data?
[01:01] <Chousuke> nicko: yeah
[01:01] <Chousuke> four partitions.
[01:01] <Chousuke> one is swap
[01:02] <Chousuke> two are ext2 for / and /home
[01:02] <Chousuke> and the fourth is fat32 for /data
[01:02] <HymnToLife> nicko, if you want it FAT32, yes, you can't use it for /home
[01:02] <pseudoroot> not a bad plan: <Chousuke> then do 5GB for /, 5GB for /home, 1GB for swap and the rest for /data
[01:02] <nexous> Xql of AIGLX, any one easier?
[01:02] <nexous> :D
[01:02] <HymnToLife> AIGLX
[01:02] <HymnToLife> XGL is buggy as hell
[01:02] <Chousuke> or rather, ext3 instead of ext2 ;P
[01:02] <nexous> k
[01:03] <HymnToLife> or rather, reiserfs instead of ext3 :p
[01:03] <Chousuke> nah
[01:03] <Chousuke> ext3 is fine
[01:03] <nexous> I'm lost.
[01:03] <pseudoroot> journaling ... meh =P
[01:04] <nicko> so basically programs where will be saved? on /home? and music should be saved on /data ..right?
[01:04] <HymnToLife> nexous, as I told you, tou can't use FAT32 for /home
[01:04] <Chousuke> nicko: programs will go to /
[01:04] <HymnToLife> so you need to make another partition if you want to use it
[01:04] <Chousuke> nicko: your configuration will go to /home
[01:04] <HymnToLife> though I really can't see any reason why you would want to
[01:04] <Chousuke> nicko: and your data will be on /data
[01:04] <nexous> Directed to other person I'm guessing?
[01:04] <KillerT> nicko:  if ur using winxp and not 98 I would suggest getting away from fat32 and use ntfs since it is pretty well supported now
[01:04] <HymnToLife> yep, was for nicko :p
[01:05] <nexous> k
[01:06] <nicko> is ntfs supported, or can be used to store music and files from ubuntu so that can be read by xp?
[01:06] <HymnToLife> that's asking for trouble
[01:06] <pseudoroot> ntfs can by default be mounted read-only
[01:06] <HymnToLife> use ext2/3
[01:06] <KillerT> HymnToLife: I have not had any problem with it
[01:06] <HymnToLife> !worksforme
[01:06] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:06] <krusidullg> fjhv
[01:06] <krusidullg> gfkjnhbn
[01:07] <krusidullg> ska ni ha sryk
[01:07] <HymnToLife> !ops
[01:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:07] <KillerT> HymnToLife: explain a downfall
[01:07] <krusidullg> big bang
[01:07] <HymnToLife> KillerT, data loss
[01:07] <Chousuke> nicko: you can store the files on a fat32 partition
[01:07] <Chousuke> nicko: both linux and xp can read and write on fat32
[01:08] <KillerT> HymnToLife: u have as much chance with data loss on fat32 as u do on ntfs now
[01:08] <pseudoroot> theres nothing wrong with fat32 :\
[01:08] <Chousuke> pseudoroot: yes there is, but meh
[01:08] <Chousuke> the drawbacks are negligible in this case
[01:08] <HymnToLife> yes there is, it's old and ugly
[01:08] <Daverocks> pseudoroot: i care about having individual files bigger than 4 GB. that's why i don't use fat32. :P
[01:08] <cronik> lol
[01:08] <KillerT> pseudoroot: fat32 does not hold >4gb files which means no good dvd rips
[01:08] <Chousuke> as long as he isn't storing DVD ISOs
[01:09] <pseudoroot> ok, good point about files under 4GB :)
[01:09] <KillerT> not just dvd isos
[01:09] <shriphani> guys can someone check if the dapper/ main sources repos are working ?
[01:09] <cronik> how about security
[01:09] <cronik> fat sucks at that
[01:09] <joevandyk_> My Linux box is turning itself off sorta frequently.  Same thing happened with Vista.  Hardware problem I guess.  Any recommendations for a new box?
[01:09] <cronik> ntfs is way better from my point of view
[01:09] <nexous> Are there console programs for gnome/metacity that can have all transparency, or do I need Compiz?
[01:10] <KillerT> HymnToLife: ntfs data loss chance % = fat32 1
[01:10] <KillerT> ntfs works just as good
[01:10] <KillerT> HymnToLife: if u like stability and the old vs. new stick with debian
[01:10] <cronik> joeva
[01:11] <cronik> what are lookin to use the computer in
[01:11] <Chousuke> NTFS is better than FAT32, but its Linux write support is still new.
[01:11] <HymnToLife> KillerT, that's exactly what I'm doing right now
[01:11] <cronik> no
[01:11] <joevandyk_> cronik: server, mostly.  I've got three IDE drives in there.
[01:11] <KillerT> HymnToLife: :P
[01:11] <cronik> you cant write to an ntfs file system from linux
[01:11] <cronik> that i know of
[01:11] <nicolah> is there a channel about ubuntu herd ?
[01:11] <Chousuke> cronik: yes you can
[01:11] <HymnToLife> cronik, yes you can
[01:12] <KillerT> Chousuke: how new is new?
[01:12] <Chousuke> cronik: it works pretty well, even, as far as I know.
[01:12] <nicolah> cronik ntfs-3g
[01:12] <cronik> can u explain to me
[01:12] <HymnToLife> nicolah, #ubuntu+1
[01:12] <Chousuke> KillerT: a few months old.
[01:12] <KillerT> Chousuke: negative
[01:12] <HymnToLife> !ntfs-3g | cronik
[01:12] <ubotu> cronik: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:12] <KillerT> Chousuke: been around alot longer than that
[01:12] <cronik> there you go
[01:12] <Chousuke> KillerT: ntfs-3g hasn't.
[01:12] <cronik> BETA
[01:12] <pseudoroot> !fuse
[01:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:12] <re-align> !services
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <cronik> bu thanks for the info
[01:12] <re-align> !service
[01:12] <cronik> intresting point
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <KillerT> Chousuke: lol
[01:13] <Chousuke> KillerT: lol?
[01:13] <pseudoroot> !fishing
[01:13] <re-align> bah
[01:13] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:13] <KillerT> Chousuke: I'm not going to go there
[01:13] <Chousuke> KillerT: what are you talking about?
[01:13] <Chousuke> I know of the NTFS driver in the linux kernel.
[01:13] <nicolah> thanks HymnToLife
[01:13] <Chousuke> it's older, but it still doesn't have proper write support.
[01:14] <Chousuke> ntfs-3g is the only way to write to NTFS with any success. And it's new.
[01:14] <cronik> joevandyk
[01:14] <cronik> back to the old question
[01:14] <joevandyk_> cronik: yes?
[01:14] <cronik> what i would do is build one
[01:14] <cronik> is a better solution
[01:14] <deselby9> hi
[01:15] <re-align> How would I go about setting certain programs and scripts to run on boot as a service?
[01:15] <cronik> that way you know what you want
[01:15] <re-align> Using just the command line...
[01:16] <cronik> but if you don't know anything about  assembling computers you can always buy an hp or ibm
[01:17] <shriphani> cronik: isnt dell more into we make what you want
[01:17] <cronik> no
[01:17] <cronik> don't try dell
[01:17] <cronik> they are really bad
[01:18] <shriphani> oh
[01:18] <cronik> is a pay to change hardware from dell machines
[01:18] <pseudoroot> dell is good for business, but for home power users, there are limitations
[01:18] <linuxnewbie756> I am trying out scripting with .sh files, I am trying to create a launcher that launches terminal, so I use "gnome-terminal" for that, but after it launches, what in my script file can I type to make it "type" F11?
[01:18] <cronik> they just want people to buy the product
[01:18] <cronik> pain
[01:19] <cronik> pain*
[01:19] <digitalspaghetti> hmm weird.  irc is still working, but my PC now won't connect to any webpages, or my email servers
[01:19] <devnull> hi
[01:19] <linuxnewbie756> digitalspaghetti, try disbabling ipv6
[01:20] <mcphail> digitalspaghetti: is DNS down?
[01:20] <shriphani> well has anyone checked the dapper main repos
[01:20] <billy> good morning.
[01:20] <digitalspaghetti> mcphail: nope, my work pc is connecting to the web fine
[01:20] <linuxnewbie756> In scripting .sh files, how can I do the equivalent of typing something? Like, within the script file, typing "Y"
[01:20] <digitalspaghetti> just tried to ping google.com, got cannot be found
[01:21] <billy> is the command `alsaconf` still valid?
[01:21] <re-align> digitalspaghetti, check your firewall settings.
[01:21] <digitalspaghetti> re-align: where is that?
[01:22] <deselby9_> hi
[01:22] <deselby9_> have problems with wireless
[01:22] <re-align> !firewall
[01:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:22] <GenNMX> Ahhh, much better. My Radeon 7000 PCI supports DRI w/ Xinerama, while my MGA G400 AGP does not. So I just switched monitors 0 & 1 with 2.
[01:23] <digitalspaghetti> re-align: thats fine - but i can't connect to the help file :(
[01:23] <digitalspaghetti> Unknown Host: help.ubuntu.com
[01:23] <mcphail> digitalspaghetti: try pinging 72.14.207.99
[01:24] <re-align> digitalspaghetti, use man iptables
[01:24] <digitalspaghetti> mcphail: pings that fine
[01:24] <mcphail> digitalspaghetti: then is uspect you are not resolving DNS
[01:24] <re-align> looks like you're  DNS isn't working...
[01:24] <digitalspaghetti> on my PC or on my network?
[01:25] <re-align> Do other computers in the network have the same problem?
[01:25] <digitalspaghetti> nope, just my laptop (which is the only PC running Ubuntu, all the others are Windows)
[01:25] <digitalspaghetti> and it only happened in the last few mins, was running fine
[01:26] <re-align> you tried rebooting?
[01:26] <digitalspaghetti> so i'm wondering if a process has crashed or something
[01:26] <digitalspaghetti> re-align: was about to
[01:26] <re-align> Possibly
[01:26] <digitalspaghetti> ok, brb - fingers crossed
[01:27] <jdski> g'morning all
[01:27] <jdski> supski?
[01:28] <jdski> anyone active?
[01:28] <cronik> active here
[01:28] <jdski> =) g'mornin then =)
[01:28] <shriphani> cronik: where do i report the repos problem for dapper ?
[01:28] <jdski> got a question about cores
[01:29] <cronik> good morning
[01:29] <re-align> I'm trying tto geet my ubuntu server to automatically start my TeamSpeak server and the script set I use on it at boot...how would I go about this? remember the server has no GUI, so command line stuff is needed.
[01:29] <re-align> get*
[01:29] <cronik> Have no ideal bro
[01:29] <nexous> How do I install .pcf fonts?
[01:29] <jdski> i asked in anther #ubuntu room but they're all asleep or somefin
[01:29] <jdski> here's a small paste... just a few lines
[01:29] <jdski>  06.20:03 <jdski> got a question about the development section
[01:29] <jdski>  06.20:20 <jdski> i reloaded back from fiesty(etc...) to eff
[01:29] <jdski>  06.21:41 <jdski> and while looking thru the package sectioni see both the packs loaded in my machine (2.6.17-10.34 & 2.6.17-11.35)
[01:29] <jdski>  06.21:50 <jdski> both generic
[01:29] <jdski>  06.22:35 <jdski> what i'm wondering though is what would happen if i changed from "generic" to "-server" kernel headers
[01:30] <cafuego_> !paste > jdski
[01:30] <foznot> i need help with my wireless. ndiswrapper will not load the driver and the prism 2.5 chipset does not seem to be using hostap or orinoco...any ideas?
[01:30] <digitalspaghetti> Seems to be working now.  Does "Avahi" meen anything to anyone?
[01:30] <jdski> come to /query, cafuego ?
[01:30] <shriphani> cafuego where do i submit a dapper repo complaint
[01:30] <re-align> WB digitalspaghetti
[01:30] <twisties> anyone know why netbeans 5.5 loads to a blank white window?
[01:31] <cafuego_> jdski: the -server kernel does not include  some drivers and doesn't have the restricted modules avilable.
[01:31] <mcphail> re-align: look at "man update-rc.d" or add a line to your crontab
[01:31] <digitalspaghetti> i noticed on shutdown that "Avahi" failed to be killed, i noticed it had something to do with the DNS
[01:31] <GenNMX> Hmm...flickering.
[01:31] <cafuego_> jdski: You need only the headers for the kernel you're running (or compiling for) - not others.
[01:31] <jdski> so, by changing my mod, i could just be opening up a can of worms?
[01:32] <jdski> argh... there's a few pack's for kde that i do like and can run in gdm
[01:32] <AMAG> This is going to sound like a stupid question; please bear with me
[01:32] <jdski> jsut i h8 to install an entire desktop enviro only to use 2 or 3 apps
[01:33] <AMAG> I am logged into my ubuntu box from my debian desktop
[01:33] <AMAG> I'm doing so using rxvt on the desktop
[01:33] <AMAG> term is set to "rxvt" and I suspect my desktop's rxvt does not understand unicode.
[01:33] <dave> hi, i am running ubuntu 6.10, and it has stopped automounting usbdrives, can anyone suggest anything to help please?
[01:33] <jdski> thanks for the help cafuego
[01:33] <SkyPnd> hello
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> Is there a way to assign a different desktop background to each desktop(for example, 1-4), like in Kubuntu, under Gnome?
[01:34] <AMAG> When I read man pages and such, the pager outputs things like " quote marks as multi-byte characters and I don't actually see a ", rather I see a few chars of garbage
[01:34] <jdski> i think so, IndyGunFreak
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> jdski: i've been tryign to figure it out, and i must be missing it.
[01:34] <foznot> not in gnome anymore IFG
[01:34] <foznot> sorry IGF
[01:34] <jdski> :(
[01:35] <jdski> foz got us both on that
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> foznot: ok..., no big deal, i was just curious, Google kept pointing me at Kubuntu how-tos, which i already knew how to do.
[01:35] <foznot> with KDE it is possible
[01:35] <AMAG> How do I tell the curses apps on my ubuntu box that I don't support unicode?
[01:35] <SkyPnd> im having problems with x when ubuntu starts
[01:35] <re-align> !crontab
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <foznot> what is X not doing?
[01:36] <AMAG> Even if I say something like TERM=vt100 man grep, it still happens :/
[01:36] <foznot> skypnd?
[01:36] <RainCT> Hi, (don't know if this is the right channel but I'll ask :P) I've always used LAMPP for php but now I made a clean install (feisty) and I want to ask before I install it again: is it better to use the php, mysql... packages from the repository? and if yes, what do they use as htdocs folder? does it install phpmyadmin?
[01:36] <jdski> fiesty is still under bug watch
[01:36] <msrg> Has anybody experienced X.org problems lately with fiesty?
[01:36] <jdski> may want to wait a lil while longer
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> RainCT: good luck.. Feisty is still extremely experimental
[01:36] <SkyPnd> x will not start up
[01:37] <SkyPnd> says EE no devices deteched
[01:37] <msrg> oh great, i'm not the only one
[01:37] <jdski> i upped to fiesty but, after a couple of weeks (2 days ago, matter fact) i went back to eff
[01:37] <jdski> <3 fiesty's changes but there's many buggers still in it
[01:37] <foznot> SkyPnd are  you using Fiesty?
[01:37] <SkyPnd> 6.10
[01:38] <foznot> hmm
[01:38] <jdski> i'll <3 when it gets final
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> I've never understand why people who are simply not qualified to troubleshoot, decipher/fix bugs, etc, would download an OS thats still in Alpha/Beta, and expect it to work properly
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> jdski: you gotta admit, i have a point
[01:38] <SkyPnd> i coudln't get the livecd to work, it wouldn't go into X it would just lock the ubuntu graphic and some green lines across the screen
[01:38] <jdski> if they're running simple apps, it's good
[01:38] <SkyPnd> so i got the alt cd and it installs
[01:38] <element_> i hope someone is able to help me, im new to linux and have been busting my chops to figure out how i can get my Radeon 9800 to run with TV out and Accelerated Grahpics. Someone please help me.
[01:38] <jdski> indeed, you do
[01:39] <SkyPnd> but when it boots
[01:39] <jdski> =)
[01:39] <SkyPnd> same thing
[01:39] <jdski> i've a friend who's jsut been added to the dev team
[01:39] <msrg> IndyGunFreak: i'd consider myself fairly qualified, but dual just stopped working yesterday after a dist-upgade
[01:39] <msrg> so u're always running into such isssues
[01:39] <jdski> he said the latest update broke quite a few things
[01:39] <foznot> SkyPnd: pry safe graphical mode
[01:39] <foznot> maybe downgrade your video driver and see if that works
[01:40] <jdski> www.kalmwind.com i think is his area
[01:40] <spenxula> hello how can i learn bandwidth speed of a whatever ip ?
[01:40] <msrg> where do I get the downgrades from?
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> jdski: but the problem is, when there's a problem, and say their PC won't boot, well, they're hosed, its either reinstall, or smack your head on the desk.
[01:40] <foznot> SkyPnd: check the xorg file when you hvae the alt cd running
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> msrg: i don't think you can downgrade
[01:40] <jdski> keeps nearly daily update on fixes and breaks in the feisty
[01:40] <foznot> then cp it
[01:40] <SkyPnd> foz: where is that, in /etc?
[01:40] <element_> my computer is not worth investing money in.. can someone point me in the right direction, i really dont even know where to begin...still.
[01:40] <foznot> SP: exactly
[01:41] <jdski> lol @ element_
[01:41] <foznot> maybe in /etc/X11
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> element_: what are our system specs?..lol thats a good start
[01:41] <jdski> ^5 on investment lack
[01:41] <dave> hi, can anyone help me mount a usb hard drive please?
[01:41] <re-align> mcphail, what sort of line should I add to the crontab to make something run on boot? (pardon my n00bness)
[01:41] <jdski> dave, did you add it to your fstab?
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> For those that have been asking, i just got an update notification, and it looks like LInux Firefox just went to 2.02.... i've saw a lot of questions on this here lately
[01:42] <jdski> i'm not a usb drive person but, i think that'd be a starting point
[01:42] <dave> jdski, how do i know which sdx its on?
[01:42] <element_> p4 3.2HT. Audigy2 Plat Pro, Radeon 9800 XT Pro, 2 gig ram.
[01:42] <jdski> i'm not sure m8
[01:42] <jdski> :(
[01:42] <foznot> dave: shouldn't usb just hotplug?
[01:42] <dave> foznot, i wish
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> element_: that PC will run probably any version of Linux you desire
[01:42] <spenxula> hello how can i learn bandwidth speed of a whatever ip ?
[01:43] <koctuk> ns id swards
[01:43] <element_> i like ubuntu, work with me.
[01:43] <jdski> spenxula, sometimes your isp has a diagnostic page on their server page
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> element_: if you like ubuntu, well, then thats a place to start
[01:44] <jdski> k, gonna try and finger my issue out some... just trying to get k3d and k3d-data to work/install
[01:44] <element_> i have... all i have understood so far is fgirx drivers and people already updating config files in post installation, of god know what drivers.
[01:44] <pilarka> hello
[01:44] <jdski> thanks for hte help/chats guys & gals
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> element_:   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> that will tell yolu how to do just abou tanything
[01:45] <element_> im using 6.10
[01:45] <pilarka> i want a driver for hp psc2175 for linux
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> element_: did you install it, or are you just running off the CD now.
[01:46] <element_> nuh ive installed it, and i got pretty much everything running accept for all graphic related options.
[01:46] <element_> im new to linux, been at on only for the last week or so.
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | element_
[01:46] <ubotu> element_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:47] <chiefbearclaw> element_: have you tried installing the video driver via envy?
[01:47] <twisties> element: Took me a bit to figure out my nVidia drivers too. Turned out it wouldn't work with a generic kernel or something :S
[01:47] <pilarka> help me please : /
[01:47] <element_> ill take a look at those links now. As for envy, i cant say i have. i dont know what envy is.
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> !help
[01:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:48] <chiefbearclaw> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html  <-- envy makes installing nvidia OR ati drivers in ubuntu easy.
[01:48] <holycow> !meaning of life
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meaning of life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <chiefbearclaw> i have an ati X1600 and envy was the only thing I tried that worked.
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> holylol
[01:48] <holycow> appearently not THAT knowing
[01:48] <twisties> bah. not all-knowing
[01:49] <element_> thanks chief, ill take a look at it
[01:49] <chiefbearclaw> element_: yw, just know that ati and linux (if you haven't started to notice already) is a difficult combination.
[01:50] <twisties> How well does Beryl run on a working ati+linux combination?
[01:50] <upd> what program is for oping .iso file
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> chiefbearclaw: indeed ti is.
[01:50] <element_> i have noticed that correlation, but theres has to be someone out there who has successful compiled a working version.
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> element_: it works with generic drivers, but you just don't use the full resources of the card.
[01:51] <jamyskis> is anyone here who has experience with pbuilder? ubuntu-motu is extremely quiet at the moment
[01:51] <twisties> save yourself the trouble and get an nVidia 6800ultra for something
[01:51] <twisties> or*
[01:51] <element_> well im making it my mission to make it owkr.
[01:51] <chiefbearclaw> element_: it happens and sometimes even Beryl will run on ati (although rare) you can find supposed videos on google video and you tube of ati and beryl in action.
[01:51] <RainCT> Have partitions been removed from Desktop and "Computer" window  in Feisty or is it a bug if I can't see them (only a pendrive is visible there, but from /media/... i can enter all the partitions)?
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> i've always used ATI, because frankly, I've been a windows tramp for a long time, my next build though, willd efinitely be Nvidia
[01:51] <upd> how can i open .iso fileee and not writ it on cd help pls
[01:51] <nexous> Hi
[01:52] <jamyskis> element_: you can get a GeForce 6600GT for less than 100 these days and Beryl runs great with it
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> upd: i dont' think you can, but i could be wrong
[01:52] <nexous> Not sure if I really like Irssi.
[01:52] <HymnToLife> upd, you can mount it
[01:52] <element_> so Nvida has compatible driver codes for linux...
[01:52] <upd> is ther no program for do that?
[01:52] <element_> i dont want to spend anymore cash on a petty card. i just bought an ASUS RF1 tablet.
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> jamyskis: I've got an Nvidia card now after my ATI bit the dust on me, and beryl is pretty cool.
[01:53] <element_> im pretty much broke.
[01:53] <holycow> IndyGunFreak, just a heads up, RESEARCH your nforce chipset support VERY WELL before buying a mobo with the chipset.  if you do get a mobo with the chipset, kernel support may not actually have it just yet, they seem to release nforce chipsets like potato chips
[01:53] <element_> haha
[01:53] <twisties> im pissed that I sold my 6600GT before trying beryl on it
[01:53] <HymnToLife> upd, the program to do that is called Linux :p
[01:53] <twisties> I now use it on a 7900GS512 and have absolutely no issues
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> holycow: lol... ok
[01:53] <HymnToLife> upd, (sudo) mount -o loop /path/to/image.iso /path/to/mountpoin
[01:53] <upd> ok tnx
[01:53] <upd> :>
[01:54] <jamyskis> IndyGunFreak: i was contemplating getting an X1800 after seeing it in action on a friends machine under windows
[01:54] <jamyskis> and then i realised i mainly use linux which might be a problem hehe
[01:55] <holycow> there isn't anything impressive about ati overall tho
[01:55] <holycow> their drivers suck on windows too
[01:55] <holycow> they can only be used for games
[01:55] <twisties> jamyskis: What is the most demanding task you require of a video card?
[01:55] <holycow> no serious 3d animator, cad or cg artists uses ati really
[01:55] <jamyskis> twisties: beryl i suppose
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> jamyskis: mine certainly sn't the "latest greatest", I just got it last week after my ATI card took a dump, its a 256mb GeForce FX5200, and it works very well
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> drivers were easy to install, etc..
[01:55] <jamyskis> twisties: oh and blender
[01:55] <twisties> you looking at PCIe then?
[01:56] <GenNMX> What can I do to further reduce flicker other then setting my monitor at its maximum refresh rate for the resolution?
[01:56] <jamyskis> IndyGunFreak: I have an FX5200 sitting around here - I changed it before AIGLX and beryl were all the rage so I never tried it, but I can well imagine that the basic functions (animations etc.) work fine
[01:56] <holycow> GenNMX, there isn't anything else that adjusts flicker
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> jamyskis: yeah, i didn't want a real expensive card, as this one is probably gonna be rebuilt in about 4-5mo
[01:56] <upd> HymnToLife
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> and it was only 60 bucks.
[01:57] <jamyskis> GenNMX: get a new monitor
[01:57] <upd> how can i remove that now
[01:57] <twisties> As long as you have a decent pixel shader on your vid card it will run anything beryl throws at it
[01:57] <HymnToLife> upd, umount
[01:57] <jamyskis> im rebuilding at some point so im going to build in a geforce 7800gt
[01:57] <sami82> I want to add 50 users, their names will be "user01 user02 etc" with the password as the same username, how can the password be set in a script?
[01:57] <upd> umount -o loop /iso /la
[01:57] <upd> ?
[01:57] <jamyskis> not the latest and greatest but more than enough for stuff like beryl blender doom 3 and quake 4
[01:57] <GenNMX> holycow: On Windows w/ VGA, I have less flicker and a sharper image.
[01:57] <element_> My Direct rendering is set to "no". Should it be yes?
[01:58] <twisties> 7800GT will run that whole list jamyskis
[01:58] <twisties> and more
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> jamyskis: i'm not a hardcore gamer anyways
[01:58] <holycow> not possible, monitor flicker is simply relative to the refresh rates
[01:58] <twisties> <-- hardcore gamer
[01:58] <leal> hello
[01:58] <holycow> GenNMX, you might be describing something else and attributing it to flicker?
[01:58] <leal> there is no "pam_syslog" on ubuntu?
[01:58] <GenNMX> holycow: What about sharpness?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> well all its been fun, i gotta go to the doc so he can tell me my ankle is still broken.. :(... See ya'l later
[01:59] <holycow> GenNMX, what do you mean sharpness? as in colour sharpness or 'font' sharpness?
[01:59] <jamyskis> GenNMX: you using nvidia?
[01:59] <GenNMX> holycow: 'font' sharpness
[01:59] <jamyskis> GenNMX: its a long shot but it could be that you have weird settings in nvidia-settings
[01:59] <Valiante> My motherboard supports PC1600/DDR200 or PC2100/DDR266 DDR memory.  Is there a command to find out which I already have?
[01:59] <holycow> GenNMX, oh fonts render better in linux
[01:59] <sami82> this is the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7925/
[01:59] <holycow> GenNMX, your eyes just haven't adjusted to the difference
[01:59] <GenNMX> jamyskis: ATI
[01:59] <holycow> your just used to shitty font rendering, give it a few days then look back on your windows install
[02:00] <holycow> you be startled at how bad it is over there
[02:00] <AlexC_> Hey
[02:00] <jamyskis> You'll be amazed how pixelly the font rendering under Windows looks
[02:00] <Valiante> My motherboard supports PC1600/DDR200 or PC2100/DDR266 DDR memory.  Is there a command to find out which I already have?
[02:00] <GenNMX> holycow: I don't think so...I might be crazy, but I think this image is shaking.
[02:00] <swp1> hi, I was trying to get beryl working and added something to the gnome session startup programs, now gnome crashes on startup, is there a text file i can edit to stop it doing that?
[02:00] <AlexC_> Ive just got a new Dell monitor, and you can rotate it so that it is portrate instead of landscape. I am wondering how I can make X auto-rotate my screen so it's the corect way around?
[02:01] <holycow> GenNMX, its possible but i cannot imagine what setting could cause that
[02:01] <holycow> GenNMX, tried different resolutions just to compare?
[02:01] <holycow> i'm curious
[02:01] <twisties> Valiante: This could be a long shot but maybe you could find "CPU-Z" for linux? thats what I use under windows to get that information
[02:02] <GenNMX> holycow: Yeah, 1280x1024 isn't much better. This is a 24" monitor, so it might be the stretch effect.
[02:02] <holycow> GenNMX, lcd or crt?
[02:02] <Valiante> twisties: i need a command-line option as i'm running monitorless
[02:02] <holycow> if lcd is it the wide format?
[02:02] <GenNMX> holycow: LCD
[02:02] <GenNMX> Yep
[02:02] <AlexC_> GenNMX: you'll want a bigger rest than 1280x1024 for a 24" monitor. I use to run that on my 17" crt!!
[02:02] <holycow> oh you have it at the wrong resolution
[02:02] <Valiante> i tried lshw but it only gave me basic info
[02:02] <AlexC_> s/rest/res
[02:02] <twisties> Valiante: Then sorry bud, got no clues
[02:02] <Valiante> np - thanks for the suggestion
[02:03] <holycow> you need to look up th enative resolution of that monitor ... and add the proper refresh rates in xorg
[02:03] <Valiante> anyone else?
[02:03] <holycow> also
[02:03] <holycow> you will need to add the upper resolution for a 24"
[02:03] <element_> When installing this ATI driver for TV out and 3d acceleration, does that also support dual monitors?
[02:03] <holycow> usually its something like 1920x1080 or something retarded like that i forget
[02:03] <GenNMX> holycow: 1280x1024 is the native, but it's not much better
[02:03] <holycow> how can it be that resolutio nif its wide screen like you confirmed?
[02:03] <twisties> was that 1280x1024 native on a 24"?
[02:03] <holycow> they its NOT a wide screen but regular ratio lcd?
[02:04] <harveyd> does ubuntu have a particular problem with playing mp3s? im getting a ton of distortion on these
[02:04] <holycow> harveyd, nope, mp3 is what mp3 is.
[02:04] <twisties> harveyd: What are you using to play the mp3's?
[02:04] <rpc> how would you go about tracking down a wicked networking problem? host can send packages but can't receive.. it's just mute, and i can see that in ifconfig for its eth0 - just 0.0 RCV
[02:04] <GenNMX> holycow: That's the native resolution for VGA input. For DVI, it's 1920x1200.
[02:05] <GenNMX> Or maybe I'm wrong...lemme check
[02:05] <holycow> GenNMX, ah.  then its a regular ration monitor, its not a wide screen
[02:05] <holycow> and yes you should check
[02:05] <holycow> :)
[02:07] <mickail> Hi everyone
[02:07] <harveyd> the mp3's are quite high bitrate, i can listen to the same files fine on windows
[02:07] <holycow> ello
[02:07] <bullgard2> I started Feisty as a life CD. GParted shows me a partition /dev/sda7. In a terminal I command 'fdisk /dev/sda'. fdisk replies: "Unable to open /dev/sda7." Why is it unable?
[02:07] <teeLie> Can someone help me with my dhcpd.conf file? I get No subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.62.55). dhcpd.conf = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7834/
[02:07] <pseudoroot> harveyd:   might be mixer settings
[02:08] <harveyd> but in every program i have tested in ubuntu they are distorted
[02:08] <[StingRay] > Hi all, can somebody help me compile cups from source?
[02:08] <[StingRay] > I need to test the latest 1.2.8
[02:09] <harveyd> ill reboot and make certain it isnt the laptop speakers
[02:09] <element_> anyone here running a RAID partition with linux?
[02:09] <element_> striped
[02:09] <unop> teeLie,  you're trying to assign 192.168.62.55 to be a router for 192.168.1.0/24?
[02:10] <AlexC_> I've got some problems with Screen rotation. If I go to System->Prefs->Screen Res the option to rotate the screen is disabled, why is this?
[02:11] <teeLie> unop: Yes, something like that :D
[02:11] <unop> teeLie,  do you see why that wont happen?
[02:12] <SkyPnd> hrm
[02:12] <SkyPnd> i got xwindows to woork
[02:12] <SkyPnd> now i cant switch to consoles
[02:12] <SkyPnd> it gets all garbled up
[02:13] <harveyd> right, its certainly ubuntu
[02:13] <SkyPnd> hrm
[02:14] <element_> whats does it mean by " Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly."
[02:14] <teeLie> unop: No =p I dont know so much about ubuntu. i installed it yesterday and i just followed a guide..
[02:14] <harveyd> Im dual booting, the same mp3 players clear in windows, distorted in ubuntu
[02:14] <riotkittie> argh. i want dual  screens :\
[02:15] <element_> i got dual screens, just dont know how to set it up.
[02:16] <unop> teeLie,  this isnt anything to do with ubuntu.. it's to do with networking .. a router must exist on the same network (logical IP network) as the hosts it provides a gateway for .. in otherwords .. for traffic to be routed to/from 192.168.1.x/255.255.255.0, the router needs an interface in 192.168.1.x
[02:16] <billy> anybody know if Pentium D is based upon Pentium 4?
[02:18] <pseudoroot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_d
[02:22] <sebrock> asd
[02:22] <surface> i have screw up my network-manager-gnome
[02:23] <surface> now my nm-applet cannot show any access point
[02:23] <surface> its there any way i can reconfigure it back?
[02:23] <harveyd> lol @ the problem
[02:23] <burepe> !samba
[02:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:24] <harveyd> the sound was 100% in the software and way down on the laptop
[02:24] <teeLie> unop: aw ok.. But do you know how i can get it working normally again? =p I didnt take backup of /etc/network/interfaces..
[02:25] <robokop> if i have a windows install on my hd is there a way to boot that install in a VM
[02:26] <unop> teeLie,  get what working normally? be specific man, you were just talking about a network (plural, many machines) :)
[02:27] <surface> who uses network-manager-gnome?
[02:28] <teeLie> unop: Ok =P I was following a guide called "Router with firewall and dhcp". But i obviously didnt get it to work. and now i cant connect to it with VNC. But i can ping it. I want it so i can connect with vnc again ?=
[02:28] <teeLie> =) *
[02:30] <robokop> if i have a windows install on my hd is there a way to boot that install in a VM?
[02:31] <fryfrog> I need to compile in support for RAID5 growing because it was "experimental" in 2.6.17.  Would it be "smarter" in an Ubuntu sense to simply enable it and compile 2.6.17?  Or go with something very recently like 2.6.20.1?
[02:33] <HymnToLife> if it's considered experimental in 2.6.17, it definitely wouldn't be smart to enable it
[02:34] <fryfrog> well, it also was considered quite usable
[02:34] <element_> everyone, thanks for your help, goodnite for now.
[02:34] <fryfrog> so you would go for 2.6.20.1?
[02:34] <unop> teeLie,  amazingly i can understand "anything and everything" about your setup there, i was given a crystal-ball for christmas you see and now i just look into it and i have all the info i need.  give both the client and the router (for this side of the network connection) static IP addresses
[02:34] <HymnToLife> fryfrog, if you need it, yes
[02:34] <fryfrog> on the scale of things, simply enabling raid5 growing in the currently used kernel is a *much* smaller change
[02:35] <HymnToLife> fryfrog, maybe but if it's ti have data loss, I don't think it's worth it
[02:37] <robokop> if i have a windows install on my hd is there a way to boot that install into a VM?
[02:38] <digitalspaghetti> can anyone suggest a good SVN app?
[02:38] <trelayne> hi all, for some reason, by apache2 process, when started up is like at 98% usage....
[02:39] <TeePOG> hi guys
[02:39] <trelayne> anyone hear of this before on Edgy?
[02:39] <harveyd> kdesvn does enough for me
[02:39] <robokop> digitalspaghetti: just svn is nice
[02:41] <harveyd> somone really needs to put a tortoise equiv on *nix though
[02:41] <fryfrog> trelayne: so it starts, uses a lot of cpu ... then goes down to normal, low usage?
[02:41] <digitalspaghetti> heh harveyd i suppose so, i'm so use to tortoisesvn that i never really thought of command line
[02:41] <digitalspaghetti> :)
[02:41] <fryfrog> trelayne: or stays at 98%?
[02:42] <trelayne> fryfrog, it stays high
[02:42] <trelayne> right now at 95, sometimes goes down to 88, but usually between 94 and 98
[02:42] <harveyd> yeh its by far the easiest to use client. smartsvn / kdesvn are pretty easy too, but nowhere near as elegant
[02:42] <trelayne> I notice that it's only one of the child processes that's doing this.... wanna see strace output?
[02:43] <harveyd> and i have more to do with my life than remember the cli
[02:43] <teeLie> unop: Thanks for the help there, but i dont want it to be a router or anything like that. I just want to get my /etc/network/interfaces restored =P Its just gonna connect to the internet, i already have a router.
[02:43] <fryfrog> trelayne: okay, that is definatly not normal :)  what does the error_log and/or access_log say?
[02:43] <robokop> digitalspaghetti: http://marius.scurtescu.com/node/85
[02:43] <fryfrog> trelayne: i'd not know what to make of an strace, sorry :(
[02:43] <fryfrog> trelayne: are you hosting a lot of sites?
[02:43] <trelayne> the error log and access log doesn't show anything strange or even corresponding to the hight load..
[02:44] <trelayne> it's a closed system..... so only access from my private IP range
[02:44] <digitalspaghetti> robokop: thanks, i'll give that a look
[02:44] <trelayne> fryfrog, it's mainly for web development on my home PC........
[02:44] <robokop> digitalspaghetti: just googled for svn and nautilus
[02:45] <fryfrog> could it be some run-away crazy script or something that a person (or robot crawler) found?
[02:45] <fryfrog> sorry, not sure what else i'd look at
[02:45] <harveyd> that looks brilliant, thanks rob
[02:45] <unop> teeLie,  if you already have a router it's likely that router already has a DHCP server, and if that is the case, you should just be able to set the machine to recieve an automatic IP address and restart networking/reboot
[02:45] <trelayne> fryfrog,  I don't think so. It's not accessible from the outside world
[02:45] <fryfrog> ah
[02:46] <rpc> is it possible to tell netstat to show only established sessions?
[02:46] <rpc> without grep that is
[02:46] <unop> rpc,  is egrep allowed? :)
[02:46] <Peshk0`> hello
[02:46] <Peshk0`> i have a little problem
[02:46] <robokop> !ask
[02:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:47] <Peshk0`> the problem is that in installation i change the names of the mounted disks
[02:47] <Peshk0`> can i change them now?
[02:47] <trelayne> fryfrog, I just killed that one process.... the other kids are ok... it seems to have solved the problem.. but I am not sure why it does that... I hate that
[02:47] <unop> rpc,  netstat -p tcp perhaps?
[02:47] <digitalspaghetti> robokop: thats great!!!
[02:47] <surface> ubuntu edgy don't have inittab
[02:47] <surface> how am i suppose to know what run level am i running now?
[02:48] <trelayne> anyway thanks for you help fryfrog
[02:48] <bostik> hi all
[02:48] <robokop> Peshk0`: what do you mean with change the name of mounted disk
[02:48] <Peshk0`> they are wrong
[02:48] <Peshk0`> the names of the mounted disks are wrong
[02:49] <Peshk0`> i want to change them
[02:49] <robokop> Peshk0`: you mean the mount point
[02:49] <robokop> Peshk0`: ?
[02:49] <Peshk0`> yep
[02:49] <bostik> i want to know if in ubuntu are there some script/tool to check for a demon/initscript running and in case it crashes to automatically restart it
[02:49] <fryfrog> It sure does take a long time to compile a kernel where everything is enabled :/
[02:49] <bostik> ??'
[02:49] <jmitchj> I have a problem with ATI drivers. When i try using fglrx driver and use CTRL_ALT_BACKSPACE it restarts and i have access to the control panel, however when i restart ubuntu i get sstuck at a black screen on start up. Also the 3D accleration does not work even when i do get in with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE...any ideas?
[02:49] <fryfrog> bostik: sounds like you want some sort of "watchdog"
[02:49] <bostik> yes
[02:49] <fryfrog> lemme know what you find :)
[02:49] <bostik> i was pointed to svc-start
[02:49] <robokop> Peshk0`: open a terminal and then run "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[02:50] <bostik> but i think it is for other distros
[02:50] <bostik> fryfrog: yes
[02:50] <Peshk0`> robokop thank you
[02:50] <Peshk0`> ;)
[02:51] <przemek> I've got problem with sound in kubuntu, when I'm logged as a root I've got sound, but when Iim logged as a normal user there is no sound . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7928/ - there is listing from aplay -l. Any ideas?
[02:51] <burepe> I got my ubuntu comp networked with a mac through samba. I want to edit files in /var/www/ on the ubuntu comp but I don' have proper permissions. How do I make it so I can edit files there from the mac?
[02:52] <Egon> hi all
[02:52] <Egon> what is deafult encoding of cnosole in ubuntu?
[02:52] <decoy5657> I have a fresh Edgy installation.... (this even happened on the Live CD) on a Dell E521 wtih a Dell Logitech USB mouse.
[02:52] <decoy5657> Every so often, maybe 15 or 20 minutes, the mouse will stop working. The light stays on inside the mouse, but it won't move around on the screen. If I change to to a different USB port it almost immediately starts working again...
[02:52] <rpc> unop thank you - trying that
[02:52] <decoy5657> any thoughts?
[02:53] <matt1234> whats the command to restart a sound deamon?
[02:53] <robokop> burepe: try something with chmod 706 -R /var/www
[02:53] <rpc> unop hm nope -p will show all listening ports..
[02:53] <rpc> well will stick to grep then :s
[02:53] <rpc> or egrep even
[02:54] <form_> morning guys
[02:54] <rpc> but perhaps there is a better alternative to netstat? something that would allow filtering by port, service, etc
[02:54] <bostik> process watchdog ??
[02:54] <unop> rpc,  you can make an alias like - alias my_netstat="netstat -p tcp | grep -i established"
[02:54] <robokop> form_: 3pm at my place so not morning
[02:54] <bostik> in ubunru ??
[02:54] <rpc> oh hm is that console, bostik?
[02:54] <burepe> robokop: That is where my website is. By changing the permissions won't it cause problems? Wouldn't it be easier to change the permissions of the samba user?
[02:54] <form_> robokop :)
[02:55] <Peshk0`> yesterday i tried to upgrade my dapper to Edgy
[02:55] <rpc> unop that's right.. i will consider this solution, thank you
[02:55] <surface> know the way, just type runlevel
[02:55] <Peshk0`> can you guess what happened
[02:55] <form_> is there a possibility to safely shutdown gnome without user-intervention? ("halt" will make gnome loose its settings...)
[02:55] <Peshk0`> the kernel crash
[02:55] <bostik> rpc: i'm tring to find a watchdog for ubuntu daemons
[02:55] <Peshk0`> so don't upgrade to Edgy
[02:55] <rpc> bostik hm
[02:55] <Peshk0`> i've tried twice
[02:56] <Peshk0`> and the crash is same
[02:56] <Peshk0`> :)
[02:56] <robokop> burepe: depends on what you doe with it make sure both your server (apache) and the samba user have read and write permissions
[02:56] <Egon> what is deafult encoding of cnosole in ubuntu?
[02:56] <IdleOne> Peshk0`, I updated to edgy months ago without any problem and so have thousands of other ppl
[02:56] <Peshk0`> IdleOne i think the bug is hardware
[02:56] <Peshk0`> i'm not sure
[02:56] <IdleOne> Peshk0`, then it isnt ubuntu's fault
[02:57] <Peshk0`> it prints Kernel panic ... Tried to  kill initd
[02:57] <Peshk0`> or something similar
[02:57] <burepe> robokop: Ok, I don't really understand what I have to do though.
[02:57] <Peshk0`> i'm with fresh instalation now :)
[02:57] <Anician> wawaweewa!
[02:58] <robokop> burepe: make a group in which both the samba-user as the webserver are
[02:58] <fryfrog> When I am building a kernel "the ubuntu way" does it *have* to have the symlink to /usr/src/linux to work?
[02:59] <robokop> burepe: chown youruser:thatgroup -R /var/www/
[03:00] <robokop> burepe: chmod 760 -R /var/www
[03:00] <fryfrog> I'm currently compiling 2.6.17 and would like to build 2.6.20.1 at the same time
[03:00] <robokop> burepe: but i have to leave now so ask someone else if this doesn't work
[03:00] <fryfrog> burepe: or you could just add samba to the same group as the group of /var/www
[03:00] <fryfrog> assuming you've given the *group* r/w/x perms
[03:01] <teeLie> unop: Ok, thanks for helping?
[03:01] <gilligan_> is anyone here running ubuntu on a PC with fake(on-board)RAID ? I am having *major* issues.. actually been trying to get it running for 2 days now
[03:01] <fryfrog> gilligan_: don't bother with it, just set it into "normal" mode and use it as a sata/pata controller
[03:01] <fryfrog> do the raid you want in kernel software
[03:02] <gilligan_> fryfrog, that's the point.. I can't disable the crap ! :/
[03:02] <fryfrog> gilligan_: how can you *not* disable it?
[03:02] <frafra> does the r483 ati chipset is supported with open dri?
[03:02] <Matic`Makovec> Hm, as it seems, my 3D accleration isn't working. Could anyone give an idea how to check why is that so or to check what is wrong?
[03:02] <fryfrog> i mean, does it *force* you to use raid0/1?
[03:02] <fryfrog> you should be able to simply create a single drive "just a disk" or something
[03:03] <gilligan_> fryfrog, yes
[03:03] <gilligan_> fryfrog, ah well
[03:03] <burepe> fryfrog: what do you mean? This is a little confusing to me. How do I add things to groups
[03:03] <burepe> ?
[03:03] <gilligan_> fryfrog, surely i can just install to /dev/se
[03:03] <fryfrog> burepe: "usermod --help"
[03:03] <gilligan_> fryfrog, surely i can just install to /dev/sde /dev/sdf
[03:03] <gilligan_> fryfrog, but the bios only lets me boot off the ARRAY
[03:03] <fryfrog> yeah, sure they show up?
[03:03] <przemek> I've got problem with sound in kubuntu, when I'm logged as a root I've got sound, but when Iim logged as a normal user there is no sound . http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7928/ - there is listing from aplay -l. Any ideas?
[03:03] <fryfrog> okay, i'm losing understanding of your setup :)
[03:04] <gilligan_> fryfrog, hehe.sorry..
[03:04] <fryfrog> what chipset?
[03:04] <fryfrog> burepe: there are actually like 4 ways of solving your problem
[03:05] <burepe> one would work for me
[03:05] <fryfrog> burepe: 1) force samba to *always* use a specific user to read/write on that share (you'd use www-data:www-data prolly)
[03:05] <gilligan_> fryfrog, it's actually quite simple.. it's a Dell with 2 SATA drives and a fake-raid thingy -- not sure which chipset it is actually.. dmraid names the drives isw_somethingblablaARRAY
[03:05] <fryfrog> 2) add the user you are using in samba to the www-data group (and make sure the www-data *group* has write perms)
 wawaweewa! <-- lol :s
[03:05] <[H4z3] > Hey guys, im using edgy and there doesnt seem to be a traceroute.. any ideas?
[03:06] <fryfrog> 3) open up /var/www to the "everyone" (or other) group
[03:06] <fryfrog> [H4z3] : sudo apt-get install traceroute
[03:06] <linuxor> HI, Please, how to convert NTFS disk to FAT??
[03:06] <gilligan_> fryfrog, the lame thing about the bios is that I can't just say "disable RAID" .. all drives are handled by the RAID bios - hence I can only boot off the RAID ARRAY and from any of the individual disks
[03:06] <fryfrog> gilligan_: ah, and the dell doesn't have "JBOD" mode in teh raid?
[03:06] <[H4z3] > Oh i thought it didnt need installing :S ill try it thanks
[03:06] <gilligan_> fryfrog, sorry i haven't really used raid before.. what is JBOD?
[03:07] <fryfrog> gilligan_: I have a Sil controller and when I just want the disks to show up i create a "JBOD" which contains only one drive
[03:07] <rpc> linuxboy you can't do that
[03:07] <fryfrog> generally its "Just A Bunch Of Disks"
[03:07] <navegaweb> hello friends
[03:07] <rpc> navegaweb hello friend
[03:07] <fryfrog> linuxor: yeah, i think windows will convert fat32->ntfs, but not the other way around
[03:07] <fryfrog> linuxor: so copy the data you want off the ntfs, format it fat32 and then copy it back
[03:08] <linuxor> fryfrog : thx but i use linux
[03:08] <rpc> fryfrog plus all those convertions... just suck ass :s
[03:08] <navegaweb> who is the msn beutifule!
[03:08] <navegaweb> ay alguien spansh
[03:08] <rpc> linuxor backup the drive to DVDRs, format it, copy data back, be done
[03:08] <nisq>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY open
[03:08] <gilligan_> fryfrog, all the bios lets me do is switch the individual SATA devices on/off and set sata operation to either "RAID Autodetect/ATA" or "RAID on"
[03:08] <rpc> linuxboy oh and trash DVDRs after ;)
[03:08] <navegaweb> eeeeeeeeee hellou people
[03:08] <fryfrog> gilligan_: so how do you control what *type* of raid the drives are?
[03:09] <navegaweb> in spanish
[03:09] <rpc> err linuxor that is, not linuxboy
[03:09] <navegaweb> pretty
[03:09] <fryfrog> i mean, you could have 2 drives in RAID0 or in RAID1 or 3 drives in RAID5...
[03:09] <gilligan_> fryfrog, where 'RAID Autodetect' is described as 'RAID if signed drives, otherwise ATA' <-- what does signed refer to here?
[03:09] <TeePOG> how do i make sure my hostname is set from my dhcp server's dhcpd.conf and not from my local /etc/hostname ?
[03:09] <linuxboy> rpc: Hi
[03:09] <fryfrog> nisq: oops, maybe you should change your pw to nickserv now?
[03:09] <pseudoroot> !es
[03:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:09] <navegaweb> they are was inglees yer or no
[03:09] <rpc> hi linuxboy, sorry, i have confused your nick with the other guy a few times
[03:09] <linuxboy> rpc: no problem
[03:10] <linuxboy> rpc: /me goes to sleep again
[03:10] <gilligan_> fryfrog, it seems to be set to RAID0 per default
[03:10] <bostik> rpc: found... it is called monit
[03:10] <rpc> linuxboy he he
[03:10] <linuxor> rpc : so i must format ?? and using what?
[03:10] <nisq> fryfrog:  it was a test anyways...  its cool
[03:10] <rpc> bostik oh wow
[03:10] <fryfrog> gilligan_: looked for a dell bios update?
[03:10] <navegaweb> no entender
[03:10] <[H4z3] > Thanks fryfog =] 
[03:10] <fryfrog> gilligan_: failing that, you could get a pci or pci-e sata card and tell the dell crap to frack off
[03:10] <navegaweb> my cosin
[03:10] <[H4z3] > fryfrog*
[03:10] <rpc> linuxor it's impossible to convert ntfs > fat32... just backup all the data, reformat that drive and copy data back
[03:11] <rpc> bostik reading up, thanks alot!
[03:11] <navegaweb> is alan beutifule q te cagas
[03:11] <linuxor> rpc : even Fat to ntfs??
[03:11] <gilligan_> fryfrog, everything that involves spending money is bad... that freaking thing was expensive enough.grr
[03:11] <rpc> linuxor that will work but it's very risky
[03:11] <gilligan_> fryfrog, i don't think i've ever had that much problems installing linux on a pc
[03:11] <fryfrog> linuxor: no, windows will do FAT32->NTFS, its built into the OS and *isn't* risky
[03:11] <fryfrog> but you can't do it in windows
[03:12] <fryfrog> gilligan_: i just got a sata sil card from newegg for $15
[03:12] <rpc> fryfrog it is... i have a seen a few broken filesystems like that already ;)
[03:12] <digitalspaghetti> ok, got SVN working - now I need a nice program that allows me to compaire source files (like WinMerge)
[03:12] <linuxor> rpc : so, what do u advise me to format with??
[03:12] <navegaweb> no no the molinux is spanish this is really beutifule ok? bayby
[03:12] <fryfrog> work for an hour (or two) on this and you've wasted that much in time :/
[03:12] <rpc> linuxor you don't know how to format a partition?
[03:12] <navegaweb> tu padre
[03:12] <pseudoroot> navegaweb:   stop the nonsense spamming
[03:12] <rpc> navegaweb welcome my son.
[03:12] <GenNMX> digitalspaghetti: svn supports both merge and diff
[03:12] <linuxor> rpc : using what?
[03:13] <digitalspaghetti> GenNMX: ok.  was asking for someone else anyway, i'll let them know
[03:13] <navegaweb> hay alguien ispanicoooo!!!!!!!11
[03:13] <rpc> linuxor http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=format+partition+linux&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[03:13] <facugaich> !es | navegaweb
[03:13] <navegaweb> no hay otro tema de conversacion
[03:13] <ubotu> navegaweb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:13] <rpc> sometimes i feel like google proxy...
[03:13] <navegaweb> q tu padre kapullo
[03:13] <teeLie> I need to install a webserver with php to get phpsysinfo working, right? :D
[03:13] <Subhuman> teeLie, yes
[03:13] <linuxor> rpc : IOI I mean the best to use fdisk, gpart, qpart ..... ?
[03:13] <Subhuman> teeLie, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-lamp" and it will install everything you need.
[03:14] <rpc> linuxor i like fdisk best myself
[03:14] <gilligan_> fryfrog, oh i see..cheap then
[03:14] <Subhuman> linuxor, gparted livecd
[03:14] <teeLie> hehe ok thanks, is it easy to config? =P
[03:14] <rpc> linuxor but any tool will do. do not forget to backup the data before format...
[03:14] <ernstan> hey how can i update a program with apt-get ?
[03:14] <rpc> ernstan apt-get upgrade
[03:14] <Subhuman> teeLie, its all ready to go out the box-  just whack phpsysinfo into /var/www and thats it.
[03:15] <teeLie> Subhuman: Ok, thanks :D
[03:15] <ernstan> so i f nah didnt work
[03:15] <ernstan> lftp i want to update
[03:15] <linuxor> rpc : does linux fdisk produce fat partition ?
[03:15] <ernstan> i know there is new version
[03:16] <linuxor> rpc : thx a lot friend
[03:17] <teeLie> Subhuman: Couldnt find package "ubuntu-lamp" >.<
[03:17] <burito> is it just me or did feisty just lose its pretty config window?
[03:18] <Subhuman> ahh sorry teeLie - ubuntu-lamp is in Seveas' repository?
[03:18] <defrysk> burito, it seems to have lost it
[03:19] <Subhuman> teeLie, do a "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5" then
[03:19] <predaeus> burito: no idea, but you can ask in #ubuntu+1 for feisty related stuff
[03:19] <steel_lady> how to mount SD card in internal laptop reader?
[03:20] <fryfrog> stick it in and prey?
[03:20] <fryfrog> steel_lady: you might get some hints from "dmesg" when you stick it in (it'd be at the end)
[03:21] <steel_lady> frefrog, dmesg is what?
[03:21] <Enselic``> When go to console 1 (C-A-F1) and start another X server (X :1), and then go to console two, and switches back to console 1, the X server is gone (but still running), there is only console text. What could be wrong?
[03:21] <fryfrog> steel_lady: type "dmesg" at a console
[03:21] <fryfrog> its an output of text
[03:22] <steel_lady> fryfrog  Please report this to <sdhci-devel@list.drzeus.cx>.
[03:22] <steel_lady> fryfrog it says for mmc card
[03:23] <steel_lady> fryfrog [17179645.396000]  mmc0: Got data interrupt even though no data operation was in progress.
[03:24] <lightseed> hi
[03:24] <lightseed> can an ntfs be be made writeable?
[03:25] <lightseed> cause its read only
[03:26] <biggi_mat> Hi. How do I shutdown xserver so I can work only in terminal? I must install some graphic driver thing and I can do it while running xserver
[03:26] <Dr_willis> biggi_mat,  stop the gdm or kdm service.
[03:26] <Dr_willis> biggi_mat,  what are you trying to install? the latest nvidia drivers?
[03:27] <finalbeta> !ntfs3g | lightseed
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <lightseed> when i type mount it is says rw
[03:27] <finalbeta> lightseed: using ntfs3g allows you to write to ntfs, check the forums
[03:27] <ucordes> How can I write the output of a command to a file?
[03:27] <lightseed> but when i try to copy files there it says read only
[03:27] <lightseed> ok thanks
[03:27] <finalbeta> ucordes: command > file
[03:28] <ucordes> finalbeta: Thx for the quick answer
[03:28] <jochus> hey guys
[03:29] <jochus> small question
[03:29] <jochus> I have this link: http://jailtime.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?cache=cache&media=download%3Afedora%3Afedora.fc6.20061229.img.tar.bz2
[03:29] <jochus> and I want to wget it
[03:29] <gilligan_> fryfrog, oh  by the way: thanks for your help
[03:29] <jochus> but it says: 400: Bad Request.
[03:29] <jochus> how can I wget it?
[03:30] <dyrne> jochus: make sure youre in a directory you have write access to.
[03:30] <jochus> dyrne: hmm, I probably don't have write access in it
[03:30] <jochus> the problem is, the download fails a lot
[03:30] <jochus> so I need a possibility to resume
[03:31] <biggi_mat> And...I'm back. That "stop gdm service" didn't quite work since I was unable to do anything in terminal....it was just there..
[03:31] <dyrne> jochus: wget -c http://pathtofile i think -c to continue
[03:32] <steel_lady> ok, anybody else could help me mount SD card in laptop reader?
[03:32] <jochus> dyrne: the actual problem is that I'm linking to a PHP file
[03:32] <biggi_mat> So...any other suggestion on how to stop the xserver and working only in terminal (I need that because I want to install a graphics card divers and they require that)
[03:32] <jochus> and the paramter is the actual file
[03:33] <jochus> so I need the exact link, to wget it
[03:33] <ucordes> finalbeta: Is there a parameter for find that allows me to search a folder recrusivley?
[03:33] <kbrooks> how do i fully reset gnome settings???
[03:33] <fryfrog> steel_lady: i assume you have already tried just putting it in?  and it doesn't show up on your desktop?
[03:33] <Bakerz> hi
[03:33] <finalbeta> ucordes: don't know, never used it.
[03:34] <kbrooks> why isn't anyone answering my question?
[03:34] <finalbeta> ucordes: actually, it does recursive by default
[03:34] <ucordes> kbrooks: you could apt-get remove --purge gnome and reinstall
[03:34] <kbrooks> ucordes: no.
[03:34] <ucordes> finalbeta: not for me
[03:34] <jlgaddis> ucordes: find does that by default
[03:34] <Bakerz> How do you just go in console mode on ubuntu?
[03:35] <biggi_mat> Bakerz, you mean without xserver running? Only pure terminal?
[03:35] <Bakerz> yes
[03:35] <biggi_mat> I'm asking the same question :)
[03:35] <biggi_mat> Let's hope someone answers
[03:35] <ucordes> jlgaddis, finalbeta: I tried find *.mp3 inside the top folder of my music collection. All it gets me are the files inside that one folder. No recrusive searching
[03:35] <teeLie> Can someone help me with getting one of my partitions auto mounted?
[03:35] <kbrooks> biggi_mat:
[03:35] <biggi_mat> teeLie, /etc/fstab
[03:36] <finalbeta> biggi_mat: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:36] <ucordes> !fstab
[03:36] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:36] <biggi_mat> finalbeta, that only stops it but the terminal isn't useful. I mean, I can actually do anything in it
[03:36] <biggi_mat> I tried that
[03:36] <finalbeta> biggi_mat: the terminal is ehm, the terminal...
[03:36] <steven43126> Bakerz you need to set what runlevel you want to boot into take a look at /etc/inittab
[03:36] <biggi_mat> I heard  ctrl+alt+F5 might do the job
[03:37] <finalbeta> biggi_mat: yeah, I guess, that takes you to another terminal.
[03:37] <fryfrog> if you are in the gui, ctrl-alt-f1-f6 are consoles
[03:37] <fryfrog> from there, alt-f1-f6 will flip between them
[03:37] <fryfrog> usually alt-f7 or f8 is X, if you want to get back
[03:37] <cuki> hy
[03:37] <AlexC_> Morning all
[03:37] <fryfrog> but... in X, why not just run xterm or something?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> biggi_mat,  it may be a good idea to tell us what you are trying to install exactly.
[03:38] <cuki> baszunk
[03:38] <teeLie> biggi_mat: Yeah, i know. Right now i have: /dev/sda3		/media/data	ext3 auto defaults 0	2 But its not automounting. Is it wrong?
[03:38] <ucordes> jlgaddis: stil around?
[03:38] <finalbeta> Dr_willis: I think he is messing with graphics or alsa, he needs to shut down xorg , edit some files, and start it.
[03:38] <finalbeta> just guessing.
[03:39] <Vuen> hey guys, how do i find out my X version?
[03:39] <Dr_willis> finalbeta,  yea -i see way too often people asking how to so this and that.. whant what they really should be asking is the best way to do what they are TRYing to do :) not the 'this and that' stuff.. heh
[03:39] <Vuen> nevermind
[03:40] <kbrooks> Dr_willis: stop guessing
[03:40] <kbrooks> my assumption is that ...
[03:40] <kbrooks> jp;d on
[03:40] <kbrooks> well, i bet he was trying to install an ATI driver.
[03:40] <Dr_willis> perhaps we should tell biggi_mat how to use irssi so he can stay on IRC while hes trying to work on his system. :)
[03:41] <biggi_mat> So indeed, ctrl+alt+f5 + gdm stop does the job
[03:41] <Dr_willis> I cant recall having to Exit X to install nvidia or ati drivers  lately.
[03:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:41] <AlexC_> no, nor me.
[03:41] <ucordes> how can i search a folder recrusively for files with a certain pattern?
[03:41] <kbrooks> biggi_mat: you dont have to exit x fully
[03:41] <biggi_mat> The problem now is I don't have the kernel source of the kernel I'm using and there is no source on apt mirriors as well but nvidia drivers required the source
[03:41] <AlexC_> !nvidia | biggi_mat
[03:41] <ubotu> biggi_mat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:41] <Dr_willis> ucordes,  learn the proper command syntax to find.. its a rather.. deep program. :)
[03:42] <Bakerz> biggi_matt did that make your screen go totally out to?
[03:42] <pseudoroot> teeLie:   try removing "auto"
[03:42] <biggi_mat> Bakerz, yes
[03:42] <Bakerz> I did that command and my screen went totally black
[03:42] <ucordes> Dr_willis: deep?
[03:42] <kbrooks> biggi_mat: don't install them manually. use the packages from the liink which AlexC_  gave
[03:42] <Bakerz> I would like to atleast have a console
[03:42] <ucordes> what do you mean
[03:42] <biggi_mat> I did ctrl+alt+f5 and /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:42] <DarkSpirit> Is there a way I can move my Firefox and Thunderbird Profile from XP to Ubuntu? I just need the Bookmarks and extension settings itself. I can redownload all the extensions no problem
[03:42] <kbrooks> Bakerz: "totally black"?
[03:42] <Dr_willis> ucordes,  check the depth of the man pages.. :) find has oooooooodles of options..
[03:42] <finalbeta> Dr_willis: I tried irssi, I think it's insane to use it :p. who wants to use something that needs a learning curve to chat.
[03:42] <Bakerz> yes
[03:42] <Bakerz> Disabled my screen
[03:42] <Bakerz> I would like to atleast have a console
[03:42] <kbrooks> finalbeta: it does not have a learning curve
[03:43] <AlexC_> DarkSpirit: Yes, if you go to Firefox->Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks you can export book marks from there
[03:43] <ucordes> Dr_willis: i tried find -maxdepth 4 *.mp3 but that didn't change anything
[03:43] <AlexC_> DarkSpirit: not too sure about extension settings, though
[03:43] <kbrooks> finalbeta: it looks like it because you think you have to know everytthing
[03:44] <ucordes> finalbeta: all you need ist alt+1-9 to switch tabs and the /server and /join command
[03:44] <jseattle> i find irssi to be convenient
[03:44] <Dr_willis> ucordes,  im not sure you want to use the *.
[03:44] <kbrooks> ucordes: and an alias to get rid of that /server thing ;-)
[03:44] <pihus> anyone got some quick howto-s on how to get Intel Pro Wireless 2200 BG working  with a hotplug?
[03:44] <teeLie> pseudoroot: Hi again ^^ But what was the command for mounting the partitions again? I cant remember =p
[03:44] <Dr_willis> ucordes,  check out some find tutorials/examples
[03:44] <AlexC_> !mount | teeLie
[03:44] <ubotu> teeLie: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:44] <kbrooks> ucordes: read the man page of irssi fir a few hints if u r curious
[03:45] <Gjhw_> !DiskMounter
[03:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:45] <pseudoroot> teeLie:   hi :) ... "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/data" ?
[03:45] <ucordes> kbrooks: eh thanks i will
[03:45] <ucordes> Dr_willis: that will be the best to do
[03:45] <kbrooks> ucordes: btw, the syntax of that alias command is alias aliasname="command"
[03:46] <ucordes> kbrooks: is there a way to join more than one channel at a time?
[03:46] <kbrooks> ucordes: after you execute that command, you can type aliasname and get command executed
[03:46] <pseudoroot> teeLie:   or, to test fstab "sudo mount -a"
[03:46] <teeLie> pseudoroot: I was thinking about sudo mount -a, and it works now :D
[03:46] <kbrooks> ucordes:  looking
[03:46] <teeLie> pseudoroot: When i removed "auto". Thanks :D
[03:46] <pseudoroot> teeLie:   cool :D
[03:47] <pseudoroot> teeLie:   ya, i just looked at your paste from yesterday and it hit me right away :)
[03:47] <anto> Heya could somone take alook at this thread and tell me the problem?? http://otfans.net/showthread.php?t=67888&page=2
[03:47] <AlexC_> ucordes: /join #chan1,#chan2,#chan3
[03:47] <teeLie> pseudoroot: Hehe :D
[03:48] <anto> anyone?
[03:48] <ucordes> AlexC_: I allways tried it with a space after the comma
[03:48] <pihus> http://www.debuntu.org/2006/03/27/9-how-to-ipw2200-getting-intel-pro-wireless-2200-bg-to-work-on-debian-ubuntu <- would this guide be right with edgy?
[03:48] <AlexC_> ucordes: which ever works then =)
[03:48] <pihus> or what should I skip when useing edgy?
[03:49] <biggi_mat> Where could I change the language used in Synaptic? Since that tutorial AlexC_ gave me is in english and I can't remember of the translations that could be working in our language
[03:50] <AlexC_> biggi_mat: I don't know sorry, I only speak english so I've never had the urge to change it to some langauge I can't speak/read hehe
[03:50] <biggi_mat> Heh, yeah :)
[03:50] <biggi_mat> It's like...I don't know what the hell is meant with Repositories
[03:50] <kbrooks> ucordes:  no, u cant join multiple channels with the irssi command line arguments
[03:50] <biggi_mat> I just can't find the correct translation
[03:51] <kbrooks> ucordes:  but u can type /join #a,#b when u r connected to the desired server
[03:51] <jochus> solved: use " "
[03:51] <ucordes> kbrooks: that's what i meant
[03:51] <uken>  /j zielona
[03:52] <ucordes> it's not that i didn't read the man yet but it's so big and my english is poor
[03:52] <anto> http://otfans.net/showthread.php?t=67888&page=2 Help please.
[03:52] <AlexC_> ucordes: you're english seems good to me,
[03:53] <dxdemetriou> can I make all menus in gnome and xfce to be in english and not my natural language?
[03:53] <kbrooks> AlexC_: reading level of english.
[03:53] <aryznar> czesc wszystkim
[03:53] <brezo> hey
[03:53] <AlexC_> hi
[03:54] <brezo> anyone is there?
[03:54] <AlexC_> no
[03:54] <brezo> but you are there
[03:54] <AlexC_> thats what I mean.
[03:54] <AlexC_> =)
[03:54] <brezo> where are you from?
[03:54] <pseudoroot> you're not a nobody!
[03:54] <kbrooks> brezo: he was joking, but you don't have to ask to ask
[03:55] <AlexC_> brezo: Im from the internet, this isn't a dating agency :P hehe
[03:55] <kbrooks> brezo: why is the "wherer are you from" detail so important?
[03:55] <busfahrer> Excuse me, what do I have to do in order to get stuff like i686-linux-pc-gnu-gcc etc? I want to use my Ubuntu system as a distcc workslave. :-)
[03:55] <brezo> it is not important
[03:55] <dxdemetriou> I want my whole system to be in english and support greek. can I do that without to translate the menus?
[03:55] <RySiU> czy ktos wie jak obsluzyc amule zeby dzialalo?
[03:55] <kbrooks> brezo: exactly my point
[03:55] <brezo> it was only to talk about anything
[03:56] <AlexC_> brezo: #ubuntu0-fftopic for offtopic chat
[03:56] <kbrooks> brezo: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[03:56] <AlexC_> #ubuntu-offtopic even
[03:56] <brezo> ok sure
[03:56] <Ferret> !pl
[03:56] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:56] <brezo> I'm sorry for disturb
[03:56] <Ferret> hmm
[03:56] <brezo> just a thing
[03:56] <pseudoroot> no biggy
[03:56] <brezo> I can not install alien
[03:56] <brezo> what can I do?
[03:56] <AlexC_> "can not" ... explain.
[03:57] <brezo> I wrote in the terminal
[03:57] <brezo> just a second
[03:57] <brezo> I'm searching what I wrote
[03:58] <AlexC_> no need for a running commentry
[03:58] <neuratix> what's up with my update thing telling me to dist upgrade?
[03:58] <neuratix> is it that time a'year again?
[03:58] <brezo> sudo apt-get install alien
[03:58] <brezo> ok
[03:58] <brezo> it was easy
[03:58] <AlexC_> !enter | brezo
[03:58] <ubotu> brezo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:58] <brezo> ok sorry
[04:01] <ucordes> dxdemetriou: What do you mean by supporting greek?
[04:01] <IdleOne> neuratix, you using feisty? if so it's normal
[04:01] <neuratix> IdleOne: i'm using edgy 64bit
[04:01] <shmax> in what repository can i find gmpc-0.14?
[04:01] <ucordes> dxdemetriou: You mean like being able to type in greek characters while keeping the language english?
[04:01] <IdleOne> neuratix, probably normal also
[04:01] <shmax> for dapper
[04:02] <brezo> Where does alien saves files?
[04:02] <neuratix> i did the so-called distrubution update, but all it did was to remove myth-tv and install new firefox
[04:03] <Ferret> shmax: none, even feisty has 0.13
[04:03] <dxdemetriou> ucordes, I mean to have the whole operating system in english, but to can see files in greek. I used to have an english os. I did it on gnome, but the kde and xfce are translated
[04:03] <pseudoroot> !gmpc
[04:03] <ubotu> gmpc: Gnome Music Player Client (graphical interface to MPD). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.0-2 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 704 kB
[04:03] <IdleOne> shmax, apt-get install gmpc or gmpc-dev
[04:03] <AlexC_> brezo: in the directory you ran "alien" in
[04:03] <IdleOne> shmax, might want to install mpd also
[04:03] <brezo> thanks
[04:04] <steel_lady> please, can somebody delp me mounting SD card?
[04:04] <IdleOne> shmax, or compile it yourself if you absolutely need .14
[04:04] <alvaro> hi, anyone could tell me how can i increase the resolution, i have an nvidia video card but i can go upper than 1024 x 768 and fonts are really big!
[04:04] <shmax> i have mpd and gmpc-0.13 installed
[04:05] <soundray> !fixres | alvaro
[04:05] <ubotu> alvaro: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:05] <pihus> !wifi
[04:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:05] <shmax> gmpc-0.14 it's new realise
[04:06] <MarcoCeppi> Hi, I had the CD version of ubuntu 6.06, and I wanted to upgrade to edgy but I have no internet connection on the linux machine. I got the  DVD distro of edgy since i'm out of cd's.
[04:06] <imagineerbsilver> Has anyone used synaptic to install pearpc on ubuntu (6.10)?
[04:06] <Thonolan> when i try to start gfax on edgy eft i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7937/
[04:06] <MarcoCeppi> I can't get edgy live cd to run, nor can I get dapper to reconize the dvd. It still boots cds, and I can view the contents on my windows machine.
[04:07] <pihus> arrgh. xchat opens links in "lynx"
[04:07] <ucordes> dxdemetriou: so i guess you set the system language to english now and are not able to view greek characters in file names? i thought the file structure was independet from the system language. like my system is completely set to german language but still i can see chinese characters in file names
[04:07] <teeLie> How do i extract a .tar.gz file to a directory i specify? =p
[04:07] <m_0_r_0_n> hi, how do you install perl modules on an ubuntu system. I tried to use the perl shell for installing DBI, but it fails due to compilation errors.
[04:08] <IdleOne> m_0_r_0_n, install build-essential to solve the compile errors
[04:08] <ucordes> teeLie: i think tar xzvf blabla.tar.gz /folder/to/extract
[04:08] <soundray> teeLie: 'cd /target/directory ; tar zxf /path/to/file.tar.gz'
[04:08] <m_0_r_0_n> IdleOne, ok
[04:08] <soundray> ucordes: no, that will look for the specified folder inside the archive
[04:08] <ucordes> teeLie: i didn'
[04:09] <ucordes> teeLie: sorry.. i didn't say anything ^^
[04:09] <imagineerbsilver>  Has anyone used synaptic to install pearpc on ubuntu (6.10)?  I've tried this, and have it at the point where I can boot my copy of OS X, but I can't get networking to function properly...
[04:10] <MarcoCeppi> Need help installing 6.10 from dvd, 6.06 won't reconize dvd, but see's cd's and boots from 6.06 cd. No network.
[04:10] <atomik1> Any decent torrent clients for linux? I tried ktorrent but that froze my system twice. rtorrent was too confusing for me (lol)
[04:10] <francois> atomik1: you can try azeureus
[04:10] <soundray> imagineerbsilver: you may have more luck getting an answer to your question on the pearpc mailing lists.
[04:10] <atomik1> I tried azeureus, its a mem hog
[04:10] <atomik1> plus its pretty slow
[04:11] <IdleOne> !torrent
[04:11] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:11] <pihus> http://www.qbittorrent.org/
[04:11] <atomik1> hmm
[04:11] <ucordes> atomik1: rtorrent is the thing!
[04:11] <atomik1> yeah, the thing that confuses me XD
[04:11] <imagineerbsilver> Soundray: I thought the problem was something wrong with the package as installed by synaptic.
[04:11] <imagineerbsilver> I think it's missing things.
[04:12] <atomik1> I tried qbittorrent before
[04:12] <teeLie> soundray: I cant get it to work, it says file not found. tar zxf /home/lasse/Desktop/phpsysinfo-2.5.3-rc2.tar.gz
[04:12] <shmax> thanks
[04:12] <ikonia_> I am looking for an official guide on installing squirrell mail on an ubuntu box, using the ubuntu package. I cannot find an official guide on the forums or wiki. I actually can't find where squirell mail is installed to after installing it from the ubuntu repo's
[04:12] <atomik1> its alright, but it doesnt download as fast as utorrent would
[04:12] <shmax> another question :)
[04:12] <atomik1> When ive got a torrent here with 50 seeds, in utorrent it'll connect to about 20 of em and get a good 200kb/s
[04:12] <pihus> grr, how to get  my intel wireless hotplug working? :/
[04:12] <bunneh> hi, is there a php 5.2.1 package for ubuntu edgy?
[04:12] <RainCT> Hi, how can I give a user rw access to a folder?
[04:12] <soundray> teeLie: any reason why you don't install it from the repositories?
[04:12] <atomik1> any others ive tried for linux just connect to like... 2-3 and get a crappy 5kb/s
[04:12] <soundray> !info phpsysinfo | teeLie
[04:12] <ubotu> teelie: phpsysinfo: PHP based host information. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 1736 kB
[04:12] <ikonia_> pihus ubuntu doesn't have got plug any more
[04:12] <atomik1> (And no, its nothing to do with the limits, i disabled em)
[04:13] <soundray> !software | teeLie
[04:13] <ubotu> teeLie: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[04:13] <teeLie> oh, i didnt know about that =p thanks
[04:13] <pihus> so what does it mean? I can't use my wifi?
[04:13] <ikonia_> pihus  no it means udev now handles event driven requests
[04:13] <shmax> what program the most better to organyze my photo (excuse me for my english)
[04:13] <RainCT> bunneh: I use LAMPP, there you have all the PHP versions and can choose between them (just download from the website -search on google- and extract to /opt or wherever)
[04:13] <dxdemetriou> ucordes, can I modify the /etc/environment for that?
[04:13] <shmax> photos
[04:13] <IdleOne> !wifi | pihus
[04:13] <ubotu> pihus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:13] <pihus> !udev
[04:13] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[04:14] <pihus> i didn't find any help from wifidocs
[04:14] <pihus> already checked
[04:14] <ikonia_> pihus is your card supported ?
[04:14] <soundray> !f-spot | shmax
[04:14] <ubotu> shmax: f-spot: personal photo management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 573 kB, installed size 3396 kB
[04:14] <MarcoCeppi> Need help installing 6.10 from dvd, 6.06 won't reconize dvd, but see's cd's and boots from 6.06 cd
[04:14] <IdleOne> !mirage > shmax
[04:14] <ucordes> dxdemetriou: i change the language in gnome with the language support program which you find in the menus. as i said- the file structure is independend of that afaik
[04:14] <pihus> intel wireless pro 2200bg should be supported
[04:14] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi is it a dvd drive
[04:15] <ikonia_> pihus 'm on that now - works fine
[04:15] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_: yes it is
[04:15] <ucordes> dxdemetriou: system, administration, language support i think
[04:15] <pihus> ikonia, do you have a wifi switch or smth also?
[04:15] <ikonia_> pihus yes, I have a wifi switch
[04:15] <pihus> and how did you get it working?
[04:16] <ikonia_> pihus I installed ubuntu - and configured the card
[04:16] <IdleOne> lol
[04:16] <pihus> that's a lot of help :p
[04:16] <atomik1> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[04:16] <GaryColeman> Hello there, I'm trying to install nvidia-glx-legacy but the error message I get is Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:16] <GaryColeman> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[04:16] <GaryColeman> . Google isint a help
[04:16] <atomik1> How do I get teh C dev library thingy?
[04:16] <pihus> the problem is that I can use my wifi card only when i reboot from windows
[04:16] <ikonia_> well thats what I did - pihus have you seen if the card shows up - is it configured etc etc
[04:16] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_: it says dvd on the front; and in the disk manager for 6.06 it says dvd read. Is the dvd distro a live cd?
[04:16] <ikonia_> atomik1 you have it or your box wouldn't run
[04:16] <ikonia_> atomik1 its called glibc
[04:16] <m_0_r_0_n> IdleOne, I ve got still installation problem of perl modules. It s not possible to install DBD::mysql . It cant exec mysql_config: no such file or directory
[04:16] <atomik1> okay thanks
[04:16] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi probably bad burns
[04:17] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to conjoin wmv files?
[04:17] <illriginal> cp ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.001 ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv :cat ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.002 >> ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv ;cat  ~/Desktop/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv.003 >>  ~/BB.mon.o.co_2862500k.wmv
[04:17] <MarcoPau> hey my audio device will stay occupied after playing a flash vide on firefox, thus I won't be able to play any audio after that, unless I kill firefox. I also installed libpulse and libesd plus libflashsupport, but that didn't make any difference. Anybody has a hint?
[04:17] <illriginal> ^ doesn't work
[04:17] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_: okay I'll reinstall and try again.
[04:17] <ikonia_> illriginal thats for the flood
[04:17] <pihus> but when booting straight to linux then my wifi switch just doesn't work
[04:17] <daxxar> Hi
[04:17] <IdleOne> m_0_r_0_n, sorry I dont know about mysql
[04:17] <illriginal> what's for the flood?
[04:17] <ikonia_> pihus try the kernel parameter "noapci" as a kernel boot parameter
[04:17] <atomik1> illriginal: you cant join wmv files like that
[04:17] <daxxar> I've got this in my fstab: //192.168.0.3/storage                /smb          smbfs             auto,username=media,password=coughsplutter 0       2
[04:17] <atomik1> try googling for "wmv joiner" or something
[04:17] <illriginal> intelikey said that's how you do it? I dunno...
[04:18] <ikonia_> pihus the problem is the kill switch - not the card
[04:18] <pihus> k a really dumb question now. how can I do that? ;D
[04:18] <daxxar> But it refuses to automatically mount it on boot, yet 'mount /smb' after boot works fine.
[04:18] <illriginal> i did last night
[04:18] <atomik1> illriginal: Oh.
[04:18] <daxxar> What's wrong? Where can I find soem kind of error log?
[04:18] <ikonia_> pihus edit the grub menu.lst and add the noapci switch to your kernel boot line
[04:18] <pihus> i've been away from linux for 5 years, don't remember a thing anymore
[04:18] <ikonia_> daxxar /var/log
[04:18] <alvaro> daxxar, try tail -f /var/log/messages
[04:18] <daxxar> ikonia: What file? Can't find anything in syslog etc
[04:19] <ikonia_> daxxar what do you want log information for
[04:19] <daxxar> alvaro: but it works after boot, it's boot-time it fails to mount it.
[04:19] <bulmer> anyone happen to have a windoz, when configuring the TCP/IP settiing and the DNS tabs appens those domain name, those are not to set the client's main domain right its just for searching the dns?
[04:19] <daxxar> ikonia_: find why it doesn't mount the smbmount boot-time, as I mentioned (see my fstab entry)
[04:19] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to conjoin wmv files?
[04:19] <ikonia_> bulmer join #windows
[04:19] <pihus> is it just me or ubuntu comes with a f*cked up version of vi
[04:19] <pihus> I just don't get it
[04:19] <ikonia_> daxxar wheres the url for your fstab
[04:20] <IdleOne> !ohmy | pihus
[04:20] <ubotu> pihus: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:20] <ikonia_> pihus vi is normal - and there is no need for language
[04:20] <atomik1> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <--- how do I fix
[04:20] <pihus> k sry
[04:20] <alvaro> daxxar, so less /var/log/messages and looks for anything
[04:20] <shmax> f-spot is really good/ thank you
[04:20] <daxxar> atomik1: aptitude install build-essential
[04:20] <bulmer> ikonia i've already done, i just can recall what these settings are for, am sure there is the equivalent on linux which i believe is in /etc/resolv.conf..but not 100% sure
[04:20] <ikonia_> atomik1 install gcc environment
[04:20] <IdleOne> atomik1, install build-essential
[04:20] <atomik1> daxxar: thanks
[04:20] <daxxar> alvaro: doesn't mention anything about samba or that ip at all, except for the fact that the root-device is on that ip using nfs
[04:21] <ikonia_> bulmer resolv.conf contains name server information only
[04:21] <atomik1> IdleOne, ikonia_: thanks
[04:21] <bulmer> ikonia do you recall how the search of DNS? if there is a domain name in /etc/resolv.conf it search the DNS with those domain name padded right and one by one the dot is removed til it finds the correct root dns server?
[04:22] <ikonia_> bulmer not sure I understand what you're asking
[04:22] <ikonia_> bulmer also are you asking about windows or linux
[04:22] <atomik1> checking whether the Boost::DateTime library is available... no
[04:22] <atomik1> configure: error: unable to find Boost.DateTime library, currently this is required. <-- what about this?
[04:23] <ikonia_> atomik1 is there any chance you'll check anything yourself or are you going to ask everything in this channel
[04:23] <bulmer> ikonia: both should be same concept, searching the DNS with your client having a domain name in resolv.conf
[04:23] <ikonia_> atomik1 what are you doing to get that output
[04:23] <GaryColeman> Has anyone got Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:23] <GaryColeman> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[04:23] <GaryColeman>  when trying to enable the legacy nvidia glx driver?
[04:23] <atomik1> ikonia_: ./configure
[04:23] <ikonia_> bulmer windows andlinux work totally different. Do you want to know how to add search domains to your linux client ?
[04:23] <atomik1> ikonia_ I did have a small check
[04:23] <ikonia_> atomik1 you're missing dependences
[04:23] <ikonia_> atomik1 you stopped talking for 10 seconds, thats a very small check
[04:24] <atomik1> ikonia_: google returned nothing obvious
[04:24] <ikonia_> atomik1 I found it about 2 seconds ago
[04:24] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to conjoin wmv files?
[04:24] <opetznick> hi! i'm getting a 2gb filesize limit when using tar dump or cpio.. any ideas?
[04:24] <ikonia_> !nick spam >svolpe_gerrath
[04:24] <bulmer> ikonia: what i forget it, if they add to the search domain or they set the users domain it belongs to..
[04:24] <imposer> Somebody can tell me website to i download xchat for linux ubuntu ?
[04:24] <ikonia_> !nickspam >svolpe_gerrath
[04:24] <Doba> hi all
[04:25] <ikonia_> imposer its in the ubutu repo's - search tnhem
[04:25] <nash-20> hi
[04:25] <ikonia_> them
[04:25] <ucap_> imposer: sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:25] <IdleOne> imposer, you sudo apt-get install xchat in terminal
[04:25] <imposer> ikook
[04:25] <ikonia_> bulmer I'm really sorry, I'm not understanding what you are asking
[04:25] <steel_lady> please, nobody is paying atention to me for ages! how do I mount SD?
[04:25] <ikonia_> bulmer could you try to be a little clearer or offer an example
[04:25] <Doba_NewbieUbunt> question for anyone that can help
[04:25] <ikonia_> steel_lady whats SD
[04:25] <imposer> tell me the WEBSITE
[04:25] <nash-20> i have a problem when i try to start gdm, say that not found fixed font
[04:25] <ikonia_> !nickspam >svolpe_gerrath
[04:25] <imposer> and then i must sudo ap-tget
[04:25] <ikonia_> imposer be quiet
[04:25] <ikonia_> imposer read the docs
[04:26] <nash-20> do you know why say me that?
[04:26] <ikonia_> imposer you've been told and your response sucked
[04:26] <ucap_> imposer, you don't need a website
[04:26] <IdleOne> !repos > imposer read these links
[04:26] <steel_lady> ikonia_ SD memory card that can be read in internal laptop card reader
[04:26] <svolpe_gerrath> ikonia, ?? why nickspam?
[04:26] <svolpe_gerrath> ikedaman, just struggleing with typos.
[04:26] <ikonia_> svolpe_gerrath you're changing your nick constantly
[04:26] <imposer> ikonia_: look
[04:26] <imposer> ~$ sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:26] <imposer> Password:
[04:26] <imposer> Reading package lists... Done
[04:26] <imposer> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:26] <imposer> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[04:26] <atomik1> !paste | imposer
[04:26] <ubotu> imposer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:26] <ikonia_> imposer search for the correct package name
[04:26] <svolpe_gerrath> ikonia, sorry just a bad typer and kept getting it wrong.
[04:26] <IdleOne> !universe > imposer enable universe and multiverse
[04:27] <Doba_NewbieUbunt> the directions for mounting a windows disk/partition say to go to System-Administration-Disks
[04:27] <imposer> tell me the fuckin website
[04:27] <ikonia_> IdleOne love that you're using ">" thanks
[04:27] <ikonia_> imposer bye
[04:27] <ikonia_> !ops
[04:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:27] <atomik1> !language | imposer
[04:27] <ubotu> imposer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:27] <imposer> FUCK YOU
[04:27] <ikonia_> byeeeee
[04:27] <bulmer> ikonia: for example. if in /etc/resolv.conf you have myhome.mydomain.com, it first  myhome.mydomain.com and if cant find, only pads mydomain.com and then if it still cant find only .com ?
[04:27] <Doba_NewbieUbunt> but that's not in my menu
[04:27] <Doba_NewbieUbunt> any help?
[04:27] <IdleOne> ikonia_, I was thinking about the discusion we had yesterday about the redirect > and I believe that we need to use it more 
[04:27] <ctkroeker> My onboard VIA HD-Audio sound card doesn't let in any decent input, either thru the mic or Line in ports, it just makes weird sounds.
[04:28] <ikonia_> bulmer it will search "my domains.com" then if it doesn't find it it will not append anything and fail
[04:28] <ikonia_> IdleOne I love you
[04:28] <IdleOne> lmao @ apokryphos nice kick dude
[04:28] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_: worked, thanks.
[04:28] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi cool
[04:28] <jmitchj> Could someone tell me how to reverse the following instructions "    This may be fixed by replacing /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with libGL.so.1.2 from the previous driver version (8.24.8). To do so download this file: libGL.so.1.2 and then copy it to the /usr/lib/ directory.
[04:28] <jmitchj>     * It might be necessary to create a symlink to get accelerated OpenGL:
[04:28] <jmitchj>     sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri
[04:28] <jmitchj> "
[04:28] <apokryphos> IdleOne: buggy script :/
[04:28] <ikonia_> another flooder
[04:28] <ikonia_> yawn
[04:29] <IdleOne> apokryphos, uh huh :P
[04:29] <bulmer> ikonia: okay, and that should be similar in windows right?
[04:29] <steel_lady> ikonia_ I just got this SD card and I have to know is the card bad or ubuntu has problems mounting it
[04:29] <ikonia_> bulmer I think so yes, bt MS resolver works in a different way
[04:29] <gnumdk> hello
[04:29] <IdleOne> well you all have a good day
[04:29] <ikonia_> steel_lady what are you doing to resolve
[04:29] <ikonia_> IdleOne you too
[04:29] <IdleOne> ty
[04:29] <Doba-help_plz> would anyone like to pm to help me?
[04:29] <snoukkis> so I've been running edgy for few weeks now.. I like it.. but I'm having trouble with opengl.. when in fullscreen mode I only get crappy refresh rates (below 60Hz).. My graphics adapter is Radeon X550 (RV370).. Any tips where to begin troubleshooting?
[04:29] <ikonia_> steel_lady sorry what are you doing to mount
[04:29] <ikonia_> Doba-help_plz ask the question in the channel
[04:29] <Doba-help_plz> the directions for mounting a windows disk/partition say to go to System-Administration-Disks
[04:29] <bulmer> ikonia: ah okay..thats what i can not remember, and am trying to help a friend..
[04:30] <Doba-help_plz> but that's not in my menu
[04:30] <gnumdk> I've got a strange problem with feisty, xsane see my scanner, but when i click on scan, nothing happen :( It's a perfection 1250
[04:30] <ikonia_> bulmer it "should" be the same - but there are differences betwen linux and MS's resolver
[04:30] <ctkroeker> My onboard VIA HD-Audio sound card doesn't let in any decent input, either thru the mic or Line in ports, it just makes weird sounds.
[04:30] <geert_> I have to hit space after typing a " before it appears. I changed my kayboard layout to us int. in admin menu, but it didnt help. any hints?
[04:30] <ikonia_> gnumdk join #ubuntu+1 for fesity
[04:30] <pseudoroot> Doba-help_plz:   those instructions are for 6.06
[04:30] <ygg> ctkroeker,  lol
[04:31] <Doba-help_plz> well, they also got put in the 6.10 web help
[04:31] <ygg> ctkroeker,  intel HD?
[04:31] <Doba-help_plz> i'm looking at it now
[04:31] <arkanjul> Does Ubuntu (Linux) distinguish between AGP and PCI graphics cards?
[04:31] <Doba-help_plz> i think my version is 6.11
[04:31] <pseudoroot> Doba-help_plz:   im just saying thats why its not in your menu, old info
[04:31] <ctkroeker> yep
[04:31] <bulmer> ikonia: so in linux if one has 3 different domain name listed in the /etc/resolv.conf it attempts to pad all 3 and only then after exhausting that it will fail? or the timer time out goes first?
[04:31] <ikonia_> arkanjul sort of
[04:31] <ctkroeker> It's just braned I guess, by VIA
[04:31] <ikonia_> bulmer it will fail
[04:31] <hastour> hi, a quick question: how to execute "ifconfig blah..."  automatically during startup (for mac spoofing)?
[04:31] <ctkroeker> forgot to mention that
[04:32] <bulmer> ikonia it will only append once?
[04:32] <Thib_G> hi, I'm on Edgy Eft, and I can't write onto SD cards ( reading is ok, but not writing... It's not a permission problem, or the lock swith on the SD card... it just hangs )
[04:32] <steel_lady> ikonia_   [17179839.144000]  mmc0: Got data interrupt even though no data operation was in progress. [17179839.144000]  mmc0: Please report this to <sdhci-devel@list.drzeus.cx>.
[04:32] <arkanjul> well my xorg file says i have PCI - and device manager says pci as well - but i have an agp card.. do i change those?
[04:32] <ikonia_> bulmer no time outs so, if you search for box1 - it will search box1.domain.com box1.domin2.com box1.domain3.com - then fail straight away
[04:32] <Doba-help_plz> so how do i mount a windows volume?
[04:32] <jart> does anyone know the default stripe size for an autoconfigured raid 5?
[04:32] <MarcoCeppi> Okay, back. I didn't realize I had the wrong disk in. It still won't boot ubuntu live cd from dvd drive on dvd.
[04:32] <steel_lady> ikonia_  now it is reporting various error messages
[04:32] <ikonia_> steel_lady looks like you've got a hardware/support issue
[04:32] <Doba-help_plz> i just want to access my mp3s and other files
[04:32] <geert_> fyi this helped: setxkbmap -layout us
[04:32] <ikonia_> steel_lady report it to the ubuntu bugs team and the mail address mentioned
[04:33] <Doba-help_plz> this is day 2 on ubuntu
[04:33] <bulmer> ikonia: ah okay..thanks..
[04:33] <ikonia_> bulmer no problem, sorry it took time to understand
[04:33] <steel_lady> ikonia_ i did already but I just got the card and win doesn't read it either
[04:33] <ikonia_> steel_lady dead card
[04:34] <Doba-help_plz> so, what's the new instructions for making windows partitions available?
[04:34] <ikonia_> Doba-help_plz stop asking every 30 sseconds and someone may help
[04:34] <Doba-help_plz> :-)
[04:34] <steel_lady> ikonia_ but my PDA reads it normally
[04:34] <pseudoroot> Doba-help_plz:   search the forum or google for ''mount windows''
[04:34] <ikonia_> steel_lady thats the card - not the card reader
[04:34] <ikonia_> steel_lady what file system is on it
[04:35] <steel_lady> ikonia_ fat32
[04:35] <ikonia_> steel_lady probably hardware error on your card reader in your pc
[04:35] <HLM> Doba: I can't help you because the last time I used Windows it was version 1.0
[04:35] <steel_lady> ikonia_ how can I repair that?
[04:35] <ikonia_> HLM wow - you're so cool and "l33"
[04:35] <ikonia_> "l33t"
[04:36] <ikonia_> steel_lady hardware error - you can't
[04:36] <ikonia_> steel_lady send it back to the makers
[04:36] <steel_lady> ikonia_ I get a bunch like this: [17182392.264000]  mmcblk0: error 1 transferring data [17182392.264000]  end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 774104
[04:36] <ikonia_> steel_lady as I said - probably a hardware error as its not working in windows either
[04:37] <MarcoCeppi> Need help getting the dvd distro of ubuntu to run on start up. Loads 6.06 live cd - on cd, and dvd is intact.
[04:37] <steel_lady> ikonia_ I live in canary islands and my laptop arrived from Florida. I can not send my laptop to another continent because of a card reader
[04:37] <ikonia_> steel_lady then live with it
[04:37] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi is it starting to boot and failing - or just not starting
[04:37] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_ not booting at all
[04:38] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi do you get the boot menu up for the dvd or will it not even read the cd at boot time
[04:38] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_ it goes straight to grub, however if i put in 6.06 live cd in it boots
[04:38] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_ no boot menu
[04:38] <_Robin_> salve hi@all
[04:38] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi either the drive is dead for DVD's or the media/burn of the dvd is rubbish
[04:38] <steel_lady> ikonia_ do you know how this can happen? I was using it till now with other cards and suddenly after I used it once with this card...
[04:38] <ikonia_> steel_lady no idea, sorry I'm not a hardware engineer
[04:39] <soundray> steel_lady: I've heard that support for some card readers will improve when feisty comes out
[04:39] <ikonia_> soundray it doesn't work in windows either
[04:39] <ikonia_> soundray hence why I'm suggesting its hardware
[04:39] <MarcoCeppi> iknoia_ i checked the dvd and it's good. Is there a way I could make a floopy to boot it. the pc is old and I don't know if it will reconized dvd's for bootable device.
[04:39] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi not really
[04:39] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi why not burn the edgy cd - rather than dvd
[04:39] <soundray> ikonia_: that's a strong argument of course -- also that it has *stopped* working (steel_lady)
[04:40] <ikonia_> soundray exactly
[04:40] <steel_lady> soundray, what was happening before is that when I put it in, sometimes it mounts in ubuntu and sometimes not.
[04:40] <ikonia_> steel_lady hardware
[04:40] <soundray> steel_lady: if the reader is faulty, claim an exchange. The manufacturer should bear the shipping costs.
[04:40] <steel_lady> soundray and in win it was working before but I had system installed normally. right now I don't have drivers so probably that's it
[04:40] <soundray> steel_lady: alternatively, get a USB card reader
[04:41] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_ I'm out of cd-r . I copied the alternative cd to a usb drive and tried doing dist-upgrade by mounting the usb drive as a cd and adding it as a repository. But it always botches the upgrade.
[04:41] <Orfeous> need some help formatting a floppy
[04:41] <Orfeous> i run this "sudo fdformat /dev/fd0" then i get that the filesystem is readonly
[04:41] <soundray> Orfeous: mtools makes that easy
[04:42] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi you're a bit screwed
[04:42] <steel_lady> soundray, and it was happening before that it was very moody mounting cards in ubuntu. so the last time when I took it out, it was complaining that I didn't unmount it although it was not using it. can I try to refresh/restart it somehow?
[04:42] <soundray> Orfeous: maybe you have to flick the little switch on the floppy's corner
[04:42] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_ damn, okay I'll go out and buy more cd-r
[04:42] <docmur> hello all
[04:42] <MarcoCeppi> ikonia_ thanks for the time though!
[04:42] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi sorry
[04:42] <ikonia_> MarcoCeppi any time
[04:42] <Orfeous> soundray, its allready done
[04:43] <docmur> is there a special group for ubuntu development
[04:43] <soundray> steel_lady: it's hard to tell from a distance. It might even just be dirt in the slot or on the contacts
[04:44] <steel_lady> soundray, I know that it happens like that sometimes when you take CD out also
[04:44] <marcko> Hello. I'd like to enable a proxy. Any suggestions?
[04:44] <soundray> docmur: #ubuntu-devel (can't you search for channels with your IRC client?)
[04:44] <marcko> !proxy
[04:44] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[04:44] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:44] <docmur> well this was the first channel listed in xchat
[04:45] <ewanpayne> i have a problem. When i start an application, his window isn't on bar. How do i resolve this problem? :
[04:45] <soundray> docmur: so you thought you'd ask 1000 people for help instead of having a quick look at your client's menu options
[04:45] <pihus> is there anything else I should do besides modifing the grub's menu file? I still can't get my wifi working
[04:46] <JelleGrun> hi!
[04:46] <soundray> ewanpayne: is that one particular application or all of them?
[04:46] <pihus> I can't even get the LED showing that the wifi card is activated. unless, of course, i reboot from windows
[04:46] <steel_lady> soundray, now it mounted the card out of the blue
[04:47] <digitalspaghetti> ok - here is one for you - A professional (i.e. broadcast quality) Video Editing suite for Ubuntu
[04:47] <ewanpayne> soundray,  all of them. i not see window of all program
[04:47] <soundray> ewanpayne: right click the bottom panel, select Add to Panel and add the Window List applet
[04:47] <Daem> Where and what do I need to read to learn how to setup mounting windows shared drives on a network in my ubuntu installation?
[04:47] <JelleGrun> how can one make a  in ubuntu? is there a Alt+ combination for jsut like in Windows?
[04:47] <digitalspaghetti> anyone know a package such as that?
[04:48] <soundray> !cifs | Daem
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <soundray> !smbfs | Daem
[04:48] <ubotu> daem: smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 389 kB, installed size 920 kB
[04:48] <ewanpayne> soundray,  i LOVE UUUU :*********
[04:48] <Daem> Thanks
[04:48] <soundray> Daem: there is a good bit about it on the ubuntuguide
[04:49] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: cinelerra. You will have to enable the authors' repository.
[04:49] <JelleGrun> how can one make a  in ubuntu? is there a Alt+ combination for jsut like in Windows?
[04:50] <soundray> JelleGrun: there is on dapper. The functionality has vanished for me in edgy, though
[04:50] <digitalspaghetti> soundray: i was looking at that.  what do you mean enable the author's repositiry?
[04:50] <Prinsessa> Does anyone know if there is Music files for Beep command?
[04:50] <a_l_e> hello. does anybody know how to redirect the output of faad -i to a file?
[04:51] <marcko> When will be released the next version of ubuntu?
[04:51] <a_l_e> ... or generally how to redirect output if | and > don't work!
[04:51] <soundray> JelleGrun: on dapper, it's Shift-Ctrl-235 I think
[04:51] <soundray> !feisty | marcko
[04:51] <ubotu> marcko: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:51] <soundray> !repos | digitalspaghetti
[04:51] <ubotu> digitalspaghetti: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:51] <marcko> o'right. thanks
[04:51] <florides> hello
[04:51] <cableroy> hi, i need a program that can watch if a file is created on the file system
[04:52] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, ok
[04:52] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: the cinelerra makers maintain their own repository so you can install the software with apt-get
[04:52] <neo_> hey
[04:52] <florides> how can i export my contact in a .cvs data with evolution???
[04:52] <digitalspaghetti> oh, i was only seeing RPM's on their site
[04:52] <neo_> i have an ircbot php ircbot
[04:52] <florides> (excuse me for my soooo bad english)
[04:52] <digitalspaghetti> but i think i found it
[04:52] <neo_> but ui hava start it with php
[04:52] <neo_> what is my php path?
[04:53] <neo_> itgs installed with synaptic
[04:53] <soundray> florides: I don't think you can. You have to export to vcf format and convert that.
[04:53] <neo_> i dont know whats my path
[04:53] <florides> hmm ok
[04:53] <d64> hello.. trying to install ubuntu server on a supermicro server here, which has intel matrix SATA raid. ubuntu doesn't see the mirror created on the raid controller, so my first guess was that this isn't real software raid.. however, surprisingly, fc6 figured out the mirror properly? is there some driver not included on the ubuntu cd that is needed to have raid functionality?
[04:53] <florides> but i don't know how to convert a vcf into a cvs.... :/
[04:53] <Prinsessa> Does anyone know if there is Music files for Beep command?
[04:54] <steel_lady> ok, can somebody tell me why they didn't implement drag'n'drop function in ubuntu? I think it is one of the things that makes windows magic
[04:54] <soundray> florides: I believe kontact has that capability (but can't remember for sure)
[04:54] <pihus> pihus@mercury:~$ lshw |grep 2200
[04:54] <pihus> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[04:54] <pihus>                 product: PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[04:54] <pihus>                 configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ipw2200 multicast=yes wireless=radio off
[04:54] <florides> in synaptic?
[04:54] <pihus> i guess here's the problem. how can i turn wireless radio on?
[04:54] <florides> ok i get a try
[04:54] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: What particular drag'n'drop function do you mean?
[04:54] <florides> thx
[04:55] <soundray> steel_lady: you just haven't checked properly
[04:55] <docmur> join #ubuntu-devel
[04:55] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: At least in KDE one can drag'n'drop a whole lot more things than I know to be drag'n'droppable under Windows.
[04:56] <soundray> steel_lady: always check your facts before you launch a moaning complaint like that
[04:56] <digitalspaghetti> hmm, weird.  I am trying to install cinelerra, but it's giving me weird dependancy messages.  It's saying:  Depends: libmjpegtools0 (>=1:1.8.0) but 1.8.0-0.1 is to be installed
[04:56] <digitalspaghetti> so isn't that a higher version that being installed?
[04:57] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, for eg. I choos a bunch of mp3s from the window holding control and throw it over the winamp and it plays. I can drop some other file over some program and it is opened in that program. but the worst is this thing that I have to go through the meny in xmms
[04:57] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: are you sure you've enabled the ubuntu repository, and not the debian one?
[04:57] <cberlo> Hi folks!  I'm running Ubuntu, so this is a peripheral question, but:  does anyone know how to install .Net under wine on ubuntu?
[04:58] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: At least under KDE one can drag'n'drop files into XMMS just fine.
[04:58] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: sorry, I take that question back
[04:58] <digitalspaghetti> deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/breezy/cinelerra/i686/ ./ is the repository it's telling me for Ubuntu
[04:58] <ardchoille> Drag and drop works great in xmms in gnome too.
[04:58] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: which ubuntu version have you got?
[04:59] <digitalspaghetti> 6.10
[04:59] <ucordes> what icq and msn clients are there for CLI ?
[04:59] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, how can I found out if it doesn't work in gnome or what?
[04:59] <digitalspaghetti> i also get this error for libquicktimehv: Depends: libfaad2-0 (>=2.0.0+cvs20060416) but 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[04:59] <ardchoille> digitalspaghetti: That's a Breezy repo, you shouldn't use it on Edgy
[04:59] <digitalspaghetti> ahh
[04:59] <ardchoille> digitalspaghetti: Probably why you're getting errors.
[04:59] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: look at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php to set up the correct repo
[05:00] <digitalspaghetti> AHIC
[05:00] <soundray> I guess that means "thanks"
[05:00] <ardchoille> soundray: hehe
[05:01] <digitalspaghetti> yea, thanks ;)
[05:01] <digitalspaghetti> AHIC == Ahh, I see
[05:01] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, does in KDE also exist the right click menu 'enqueue song in xmmc'?
[05:01] <Daem> soundray: thanks for pointing me in the CIFS direction, already have it working :)
[05:01] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: Yes, it can have that.
[05:01] <soundray> Daem: well done
[05:01] <pseudoroot> steel_lady:   you might want to try "beep media player" - it's like xmms but made for gnome
[05:02] <soundray> Daem: I could tell from your original question that you wouldn't have much trouble ;)
[05:02] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: I don't recall if the enqueue function was there automatically, but in case it wasn't it's very easy to do it yourself.
[05:02] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: I haven't used GNOME all that much but I've got the impression that it tries to be closer to OS X than Windows. KDE, on the other hand, much more resembles Windows in terms of UI, without many of the annoyances and a lot more power, if that's what you prefer. Perhaps you should give Kubuntu a try(install the package kubuntu-desktop).
[05:02] <leopartux> hi i have tv card (avermedia) which program do you prefer?
[05:02] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, do you know should I do something from the program to add that option or it doesn't work in gnome?
[05:03] <soundray> leopartux: DVB or analog?
[05:03] <leopartux> analog
[05:03] <soundray> leopartux: I heard that mythtv is good
[05:03] <soundray> !mythtv
[05:03] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:03] <ardchoille> steel_lady: I use gnome daily, what are you trying to do? I'll try and help.
[05:04] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: Sorry, my knowledge of GNOME is very limited.
[05:04] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, I would like to put kubuntu but I am working oon some things and I am very afraid to mess up my system now
[05:04] <leopartux> can i instal it from add remove programs .
[05:04] <soundray> leopartux: zapping if you want a quicker solution that is more computer desktop- and less home theater-oriented
[05:04] <digitalspaghetti> ohh MythTV...when i get time I will get it working.....but not today
[05:04] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, you said it is easy to add the enqueue option myself. How?
[05:05] <soundray> digitalspaghetti: skip mythtv, vdr is better IMO ;)
[05:05] <digitalspaghetti> soundray: i'll check it out - but what I really mean by that sentence is when I get my Nova-T USB DVB-T to work
[05:05] <soundray> Mainly for DVB though
[05:06] <digitalspaghetti> but i'm at work, so there is no point in me even starting to go down that route
[05:06] <steel_lady> ardchoille, I just need to get this function enqueue in xmmc for songs because I am a music addict and it is very annoying if I wanto to add 1 song to the playlist and go to search for it through the menu
[05:06] <ardchoille> steel_lady: Ok, are you using gnome?
[05:06] <ikonia_> steel_lady I am sure there is something int he forum
[05:07] <steel_lady> ardchoille, yes I am
[05:07] <ardchoille> steel_lady: and you want mp3 files to open in xmms when you double-click them?
[05:08] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: I meant under KDE. There. it's e.g. right clicking a file -> open with -> other ... and then entering xmms -e as the command(unless there's a menu entry "Enqueue in XMMS" under multimedia.")
[05:09] <steel_lady> ardchoille, no, I want when I have a playlist then I want to add 3 songs, in win I mark them and right click for an option enqueue in player and it adds to the playlist
[05:09] <pihus> got it working :) :) :)
[05:09] <soundray> pihus: you found a way to turn on your wireless device? How?
[05:09] <pihus> "modprobe acerhk" and "echo 1 > /proc/driver/acerhk/wirelessled" solved the problem
[05:10] <soundray> pihus: wow, well done. Too bad that won't work for me
[05:10] <ikonia_> pihus very interesting. Well done
[05:10] <pihus> first I discovered that everything besides radio was ok. just useing lshw command
[05:10] <florides> ok thx, kontact can export as cvs my adressbook
[05:10] <ardchoille> steel_lady: What I do is put all my mp3 files in one folder, then open xmms, right-click the playlist, choose Add -> Directory, browse to the dir where I put the mp3 files, and click OK and all the mp3's go straight into xmms's playlist.
[05:10] <soundray> florides: well done, thanks for the feedback
[05:11] <florides> but why evolution not do it...?
[05:11] <florides> ....do not do...
[05:11] <ardchoille> steel_lady: or you can open xmms and drag and drop the files into the playlist, and they play
[05:11] <soundray> florides: I've wondered that. You might consider filing a wishlist bug.
[05:12] <soundray> !bugs | florides
[05:12] <ubotu> florides: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:13] <florides> soundray: ok i would do that but withmy poor english????
[05:13] <pihus> in various places I have noticed that my laptop is identified as some kind of acer laptop, but it actually is not
[05:13] <ardchoille> florides: In Evolution, you can save the entire addressbook as vcard. Would that help?
[05:13] <steel_lady> Hirvinen, but that thing should set the file always open in that player. And for clicking on the file, it will open that file,, not add it on the playlist after others
[05:13] <soundray> florides: your English was good enough to ask for help here and solve the problem. It's good enough to file a bug report, too! ;)
[05:13] <pihus> how can I find out what "acer" laptop linux thinks it is? so I could search more help on suspending and hibernating?
[05:13] <dodi123> hi :-)
[05:14] <florides> ardchoille: that helped.... but i have now a google adress and they wanted a cvs file to import the adressbook
[05:14] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: There's a checkbox for "remember this file association" or something like that.
[05:14] <soundray> ardchoille: that's how florides solved it: export to vcf, import to kontact, export to cvs. Bit contorted.
[05:14] <florides> soundray: lol ok then ....
[05:14] <ardchoille> soundray , florides That kinda sucks, yeah.
[05:15] <florides> yeah sucks... but i got my addresses in google
[05:15] <steel_lady> ardchoille, I am a music freak! That means that I have hundreds of albums and I am doing parties where I am picking songs from albums and adding to the playlist. I can not put 123235245234 files together in one folder!
[05:16] <Answer> Does anybody use WEP key index 4 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:16] <ardchoille> steel_lady: Ok, sounds like you might be better with a different player that organises more to your needs.
[05:16] <Supre_Me> hello! I would like to move files from my windows laptop to my ubuntu stationary comp. I have already shared the files on my laptop, how do I move them to my stationary comp? Thanks
[05:16] <steel_lady> Hirvinen it is not about the file association, that part is doing fine. As I said, I have a lots of albums of various artists and I am composing playlists. In windows it works beautifully but in linux you can't avoid browsing menu if you want songs from various folders in a playlist
[05:17] <florides> steel_lady: why do you not use exaile? or amarok?
[05:17] <Hirvinen> steel_lady: If you want a lot of control over your music, I'd suggest a non-dead player project, such as Amarok.
[05:17] <Firekill> algum br aqui??
[05:17] <soundray> Supre_Me: are they networked?
[05:17] <Supre_Me> soundray, yes, they are on the same network. My laptopn on wireless and my stationary with cable connected via a router
[05:18] <steel_lady> florides, Hirvinen, I am conservative. I just hoped that I could do things in my good old easy ways :-(
[05:18] <Firekill> i'm a new user of linux, i need help who install programans... plz who can help me - pvt-me
[05:18] <soundray> Supre_Me: on ubuntu, go to Places-Connect to server, select Windows share and enter your credentials.
[05:19] <Hirvinen> Firekill: Read the second topic item.
[05:19] <soundray> Supre_Me: after that, you can use nautilus to transfer files.
[05:19] <Answer> Supre_Me, you could run openssh server or an ftp server on your laptop and then use winscp to transfer the files from windows
[05:19] <florides> bah you can create your playlists with your 10 little fingers just by filling an .m3u file
[05:19] <Answer> !tell Firekill about synaptic
[05:20] <soundray> Supre_Me: if you're doing this regularly, have a look at unison
[05:20] <Answer> Does anybody use WEP key index 4 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:21] <frying_fish> anyone around played with grub-gfxboot?
[05:21] <CharlieSu> if i'm using Edgy Eft right now is there a simple way for me to upgrade to Herd 5 of feisty Fawn?
[05:21] <soundray> !feisty | CharlieSu
[05:21] <ubotu> CharlieSu: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <Supre_Me> soundray, ok, thanks for the fast reply. Do I need to have my computers on a static IP?
[05:21] <Answer> CharlieSu, you might need to ask in ubuntu-edgy
[05:21] <steel_lady> florides, Hirvinen, I am installing Amarok to see how it works
[05:21] <soundray> CharlieSu: it's too early, unless you want to help with development.
[05:21] <CharlieSu> k
[05:22] <florides> steel_lady: it works fien ;)
[05:22] <soundray> Supre_Me: no, as long as they have IPs and you can ping both ways, it doesn't matter how they have been assigned.
[05:22] <florides> fine
[05:23] <steel_lady> florides, I hope it is not big and ugly. I want ordered compact small players
[05:24] <cinex> hi; I have an iptables script that I would like to have replace the standard one. where do I put it ?
[05:24] <cinex> so that it runs at boto
[05:24] <cinex> boot
[05:24] <florides> then when you have a huge list of music you need a player wich library is loaded on an MySQL database
[05:24] <soundray> steel_lady: amarok=big and comfortable. m3u playlists = small and clean
[05:25] <florides> but you can do as i do you create m3u playlists with m3u playlist in it ;)
[05:29] <cinex> does it even come w ith a default script ?
[05:30] <frying_fish> anyone able to help trouble shoot a gfxboot-grub issue?
[05:30] <steel_lady> soundray it is huge! I need something small in the corner of my screen where I can throw my eye while I am working. they don't have some option like 'make it compact'?
[05:31] <florides> exaile had some steel_lady
[05:32] <florides> but you must compile it??? (i don't know for sure maybe it's in the repository)
[05:34] <CharlieSu> how do you get to Fawn from Edgy Eft?  I've got Eft installed and want to know if there is an easy way to upgrade
[05:34] <steel_lady> florides, I will try exile also. I hated different 'multimedia centers' in win because they are huge. can you recommend some ripping program that rips to variable bitrate mp3s?
[05:34] <florides> hmm soundjuicer?
[05:35] <florides> lol
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> Hello all - I'm going to upgrade my Dapper box's video card from a (don't laugh please) ATi Rage 3D Pro to a (don't laugh please) ATi 9600 Pro AIW. I'd like a sanity check on the procedure: 0. Backup xorg.conf. 1. Install Envy. 2. Down the box and swap the cards. 3. Boot and run Envy. 4. Start X and the GDM. (Hope not to go to 5. Realize it's all failed and try to sort it out.) ... Am I missing something here that'll cause me trou
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> ble? I'm new to this...
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> ... and too wordy ... sorry :(
[05:36] <diasdelfenix> somebody use jaws, i need help
[05:36] <marshall> hey guys
[05:36] <florides> steel_lady: you can create different profile with ubuntu to rip to different quality
[05:37] <digitalspaghetti> I'm trying to do someting that requires root access, and i get permission denied when i try to do it sudo
[05:37] <Skrot> Can I make scp not overwrite existing files?
[05:37] <digitalspaghetti> how do i log in as root, as it won't let me from the login screen
[05:37] <afflux> my gnome-terminal crashes when opening a new tab :(
[05:37] <marshall> i keep getting this thing in gimp that says i cant use brightness-contrast on indexed layers, does anybody know how i make the layer non-indexed or at least so i can brightness-contrast it?
[05:38] <digitalspaghetti> i'm trying to do echo "0x7ffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[05:39] <florides> steel_lady: gnome-audio-profiles-properties
[05:40] <squalooo> hy...
[05:40] <dhorn> Hey, maybe I'm a little slow, but in Beryl, when I double-click on the title bar of an app, it rolls up, I want to maximize/minimize the app, is that possible? (no one is active in #ubuntu-effects)
[05:41] <ming2k> BenC: Any chance of releasing kernel linux-headers-2.6.20 with http://gaugusch.at/kernel.shtml (DSDT in intrd patch) before official fesity release?
[05:41] <afflux> dhorn: first: beryl isn't supported in ubuntu.
[05:41] <afflux> dhorn: second: yes it is possible. search in the beryl-manager options
[05:42] <schwuk> Does anyone know what the next LTS release will be?
[05:42] <Nutubuntu> marshall - I'm not sure about this, but it seems as if the "indexed layers" message might mean that one or more of the layers isn't in RGB mode.
[05:42] <marshall> ok, thanks Nutubuntu
[05:43] <squalooo> hy boys.. i logging in ubuntu like user account that i create when installed!! now how can connect like root?
[05:43] <afflux> squalooo: you can run commands as root using the sudo command
[05:44] <afflux> squalooo: logging in as root is never needed and should never be done.
[05:44] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[05:44] <bunneh> squalooo, do: sudo passwd root
[05:44] <ant1> !locale
[05:44] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:44] <BenC> ming2k: If the patch applies to 2.6.20, sure
[05:44] <squalooo> afflux, what is the command ?
[05:44] <BenC> ming2k: I yanked it because so much of the code around it changed
[05:45] <afflux> squalooo: sudo
[05:45] <afflux> squalooo: as "Super-UserDO"
[05:45] <afflux> squalooo: just prefix sudo to any command you want to run as root.
[05:45] <Orfeous> still got problems while formatting a floppy disk
[05:45] <Orfeous> anton@anton:/dev$ sudo mformat a:
[05:45] <Orfeous> mformat: Can't open /dev/fd0: Read-only file system
[05:46] <ming2k> k... well i it appilied to kernel src package cleanly :)
[05:46] <squalooo> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[05:46] <squalooo> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[05:46] <squalooo>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[05:46] <Nutubuntu> Orfeous - This is probably a silly question but is the diskette write-protected?
[05:46] <squalooo> afflux, why?
[05:47] <ming2k> BenC: i would prefer to use Ubuntu package rather than roll my own... so would be cool if it can be added
[05:47] <Orfeous> Nutubuntu, no, it isnt
[05:47] <afflux> squalooo: did you read me? you won't login as root.
[05:47] <afflux> squalooo: you can run any command as root by using:    sudo <command>
[05:48] <squalooo> i can't login as root?
[05:48] <Keneo> hello, I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate cd on a old pc over here, but I get an error that no ethernet card can be found, and I might need addition modules to find it (there is one in it, and working) What do I do now?
[05:48] <florides> sure you can login as root with sudo su
[05:48] <cosmodad> squalooo: you can, but shouldn't
[05:48] <MarcoCeppi> Okay, I'm back. I got a cd-r and burned the cd version of Ubuntu 6.10 Now it goes to the boot menu, and opens the loader for the live cd. after "loading" it goes to a blank screen with blinking carret. I can't type, nothing.
[05:48] <florides> but you don't need to do that with sudo
[05:48] <afflux> squalooo: you will never need it.
[05:48] <BenC> ming2k: it seems to apply cleanly, so expect it in the next kernel upload
[05:48] <SilentDis> afflux, if people INSIST on having a root prompt, I always let them know there's better ways, then tell them about the switch in sudo, and of course advise them that they'll probably ruin their system ;)
[05:48] <ming2k> BenC: \o/ Thanks!
[05:48] <SCanzt1> in the terminal, how do i navigate to files?
[05:49] <RxDx> whats the diff to set chmod +x file them ./file or just sh file?
[05:49] <florides> afflux: sure he can need that when he have a huge amount of command to run as root
[05:49] <Pici> SCanzt1:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:49] <cosmodad> SCanzt1: you can navigate through directories using cd
[05:49] <squalooo> afflux, but if i create another account called "afflux", you're logged, you can connected as root?
[05:49] <SilentDis> SCanzt1, ls lists, cd changes directory, pwd shows your current path,
[05:49] <afflux> squalooo: no. the user has to be in certain groups for this.
[05:50] <squalooo> afflux,  i don't understand :P
[05:50] <afflux> SilentDis: yes, think i should tell him ;)
[05:50] <andcor> How do you get ALSA working in mythfrontend
[05:50] <cosmodad> RxDx: you need +x every time you want to run an executable. You can use ./file if the script interpreter isn't noteed at the top of file, otherwise you need <interpreter> file, like sh file
[05:50] <SilentDis> afflux, squalooo I do hate to butt in, but what exactly are you looking to accomplish?  what is the end result you want?
[05:50] <Pici> !sudo | squalooo
[05:50] <ubotu> squalooo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:50] <afflux> squalooo: users in linux are in "groups", which will allow them to access different parts of the system.
[05:50] <andcor> while beeing able to use the mixer
[05:50] <NET||abuse> hi all,, does anyone know how i can get a wpa password out of my gnome-keyring-manager ?
[05:51] <RxDx> cosmodad, ahh, thanks dude
[05:51] <NET||abuse> il have it on my laptop here,, and i havn't managed to remember what it is to allow another laptop onto the network>..
[05:51] <RxDx> !kde
[05:51] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:51] <RxDx> !gnome
[05:51] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[05:51] <cosmodad> RxDx: sorry: "You can use ./file if the script interpreter *IS* noted at..."
[05:51] <squalooo> ok ok
[05:51] <afflux> squalooo: i'm not sure which group this was, but I think they need to be in the group "admin" to have access to sudo.
[05:51] <MarcoCeppi> I am unable to boot the Ubuntu Edgy live CD. It loads the boot menu, and when I attempt to launch livecd it goes to the load screen, then a few min later comes to a screen with a flashing carret "_" but i can't input any text.
[05:52] <Keneo> hello, I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate cd on a old pc over here, but I get an error that no ethernet card can be found, and I might need addition modules to find it (there is one in it, and working) What do I do now?
[05:52] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, what are the specs on the machine you're trying to run it on?  memory, processor, etc?
[05:52] <Tr4sK> Hi all
[05:52] <NET||abuse> So anyone have a clue, can I retrieve the wifi password for my network from gnome-keyring-manager ??
[05:53] <afflux> florides: I would create a file and run sudo bash file. Or: hasn't there been a possibility to run all commands given with stdin?
[05:53] <MarcoCeppi> SilentDis: I've installed 6.06 previously on it, but the specs are 386mb ram, Pentium III processor on board grapchis and sound
[05:53] <squalooo> afflux,  but i when installed ubuntu, i create account "enzo", it is the main account?
[05:53] <afflux> florides: in that case we could run echo "<lots of commands>" | sudo --whatever
[05:53] <pihus> it needs the "echo 1 > /proc/drivers/apacerhk/wirelessled" command everytime I start my computer.
[05:54] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, hmm... i've got an Edgy machine running w/ 384mb myself...  but I THINK I ended up using the alt-install cd, just for my own sanity hehe
[05:54] <pihus> where should I put this command so that it would be automatically done everytime i boot?
[05:54] <afflux> squalooo: yes. and he is in every admin group.
[05:54] <andcor> How do you get ALSA working in mythfrontend
[05:54] <eegore> could anyone assist me in getting the mlayer pluging to work with kUBUNTU EDGY?
[05:54] <unop> echo "<lots of commands>" | sudo --whatever  - would NOT be advisable
[05:54] <Leo`> hello
[05:54] <Leo`> i have a problem
[05:54] <Leo`> i downloaded the ubuntu 6.10 iso
[05:55] <MarcoCeppi> SilentDis: Does the alt cd have a live cd enviornment also? or rather, is there instructions for installing from alt cd?
[05:55] <pihus> then what would?
[05:55] <andcor> pihus: it is a bit of a hack, but you can put it in /etc/init.d/rc.d
[05:55] <ming2k> pihus: you can add it to /etc/rc.local
[05:55] <SilentDis> !enter | Leo`
[05:55] <eegore> The only references I can find relate to the use of utomatix
[05:55] <florides> bah afflux you can login as root... it's not a prob when you don't stay as root
[05:55] <ubotu> Leo`: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:55] <squalooo> but it's only admin/root?
[05:55] <goomie> when i install the package build-essential that installs a c++ compiler correct??
[05:55] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, no it's not a live cd environment, all text-based... but I have to say it's the easiest text mode install i've ever seen, and you end up with the exact same package list as with the livecd
[05:55] <pihus> which would be better then? rc.d or rc.local?
[05:56] <gordonjcp> Leo`: and you think that downloading the 6.10 iso is a problem?  Muahahahaha, your problems are only just beginning! Hahahahaha! </evil>
[05:56] <r3factored> why is that ive compiled an app from source and used checkinstall, reinstalled the package with dpkg and still it doesnt show up when i do dpkg -l ?
[05:56] <ming2k> pihus: for what you asking... rc.local
[05:56] <unop> pihus,  is this a system command you want to run? or one for you?
[05:56] <andcor> pihus: sorry, I meant rc.local
[05:56] <afflux> florides: I think most users, especially those who are from windows would use this to start/use anything from root.
[05:56] <pihus> tnx :)
[05:56] <Leo`> i burned the iso (3 times) but when the sistem starts..it jams and does nothing..what's wrong ?
[05:56] <MarcoCeppi> SilentDis: Okay cool. any documentation you know off hand? Or should I just go search the wiki?
[05:56] <SilentDis> !alternate | MarcoCeppi
[05:56] <ubotu> MarcoCeppi: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:56] <ben> hey, does anyone know which performs better, XGLX or AIGLX
[05:56] <andcor> pihus: but it would be better to make an init-script and put it in /etc/init.d/
[05:57] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, well... that wasn't very helpful lol.  let me poke around a bit :)
[05:57] <florides> yes it's right... i did the same until i understood the principle of linux
[05:57] <florides> :)
[05:57] <MarcoCeppi> SilentDis: haha, okay thanks!
[05:57] <squalooo> afflux, it's true?
[05:57] <afflux> squalooo: don't understand the question.
[05:57] <andcor> Anyone knows how to make ALSE work in mythtv ?
[05:57] <gordonjcp> Leo`: at what point does it stop?
[05:57] <Keneo> hello, I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate cd on a old pc over here, but I get an error that no ethernet card can be found, and I might need addition modules to find it (there is one in it, and working) I'm stuck now...
[05:57] <pihus> well i know a lot about scripting :p
[05:57] <gordonjcp> Keneo: what's the ethernet card?
[05:57] <afflux> squalooo: I can't answer your question if i don't understand it.
[05:58] <Leo`> after i click install
[05:59] <andcor> Leo`: you have to put all of the question in one message if we are to be able to read it
[05:59] <Nutubuntu> I'm upgrading my Dapper box's video card from a (don't laugh please) ATi Rage 3D Pro to a (don't laugh please) ATi 9600 Pro AIW. Does this procedure make sense? Backup xorg.conf. - Install Envy. - Down the box and swap the cards. - Boot and run Envy. - Start X and the GDM. - What have I left out? (Besides "Go buy Nvidia card"?)
[05:59] <Keneo> gordonjcp, it's a 3com etherlink ii
[05:59] <Leo`> i did :)
[05:59] <steel_lady> florides, wait, I was away and I missed your messages, be back later
[05:59] <squalooo> the account that i create when i installed ubuntu it's the once user which has the privileges of sudo?
[06:00] <florides> steel_lady: hmm wich messages??? LOL
[06:00] <andcor> squalooo: yes, until you put anyone else in the admin group
[06:00] <unop> squalooo,  you mean _only_ user?
[06:00] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, the basics are: insert the alt-cd, reboot.  then the text-mode install will start, it doesn't have a 'user environment', but rather just pushes you right into installing the system.  partitioning drives, etc.
[06:00] <gordonjcp> Keneo: hm, that should be pretty much standard
[06:00] <Keneo> :(
[06:00] <gordonjcp> Keneo: I'd be surprised if it wasn't supported - it should be a 3c509, shouldn't it?
[06:01] <afflux> squalooo: yes. but if you create new users you can give them the rights, if you wan to.
[06:01] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, it's very similar to the install for straight debian or redhat or the like... if you've ever used those.
[06:01] <Keneo> gordonjcp, yep
[06:01] <Keneo> ow
[06:01] <Keneo> now
[06:01] <zyth> How do I uninstall the gnome desktop if I've installed kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:01] <Keneo> 3c503
[06:01] <Keneo> gordonjcp, it's a 3c503
[06:01] <SilentDis> zyth, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <jlgaddis> Yeah, 3c509 was the EtherLink III.
[06:02] <Leo`> hello...someone ?
[06:02] <jlgaddis> Baddest 10 Mbit/s cards on the market.  =)
[06:02] <MarcoCeppi> SilentDis: ah okya, I'm pretty savy with dos, and I  have used straight debian before. Thanks for your help!
[06:02] <andcor> SilentDis: he wanted to uninstall
[06:02] <tschulze> zyth: sudo apittude remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <andcor> Leo`: you haven't asked a question
[06:02] <tschulze> aptitude, sorry.
[06:02] <Keneo> whel, that nw card isn't getting faster then 1MB/s anyway
[06:02] <SilentDis> Leo`, what problem are you having?
[06:02] <SilentDis> andcor, doh, stupid dyslexia :P
[06:02] <zyth> tschulze: that only removes the one ubuntu-desktop package, not ALL of gnome
[06:02] <andcor> SilentDis: heh
[06:02] <Keneo> so, what do I do?
[06:03] <Keneo> try again? :p
[06:03] <squalooo> andcor, unop, afflux thanks :)
[06:03] <Leo`> when the live cd loads...the sistem jams... whi ?
[06:03] <andcor> anybody knows howto use the mod_auth_pam for apache2
[06:04] <SilentDis> MarcoCeppi, while the various DOSen have some similarities to *nix... don't mistake it for 'the same' at all.  multi-threaded multi-user OSes are a LOT different than single-user single-operation ones such as DOS :)
[06:04] <afflux> squalooo: no problem.
[06:04] <andcor> Leo`: any error messages ?
[06:04] <andcor> squalooo: np
[06:04] <tschulze> zyth: you are right...
[06:04] <squalooo> afflux another question! can i installed di wifi ?
[06:04] <SilentDis> Leo`, by "jams" what do you mean?  it locks up during the liveCD load?  how far do you get?  did you see any error messages?
[06:05] <andcor> squalooo: try entering iwconfig in a terminal
[06:05] <Leo`> no afflux.. nothing,,,
[06:05] <Leo`> when i click install...somethines even after the desktop loads
[06:05] <squalooo> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:05] <squalooo> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[06:05] <squalooo> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[06:05] <squalooo> eth0      radio off  ESSID:off/any
[06:05] <squalooo>           Mode:Managed  Channel:0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[06:05] <squalooo>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=off   Sensitivity=8/0
[06:05] <squalooo>           Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:05] <squalooo>           Power Management:off
[06:05] <squalooo>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:05] <squalooo>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:05] <squalooo>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:05] <florides> arf non squalooo
[06:05] <andcor> squalooo: then you have allready installed it
[06:05] <SilentDis> !pastebin | squalooo
[06:05] <ubotu> squalooo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <andcor> Leo`: try ctrl+alt+F6
[06:06] <hexidigital> andcor:  did you try your question about apache in #apache?
[06:06] <andcor> there should be som error message
[06:06] <squalooo> andcor i don't have installed the wireless :\
[06:06] <andcor> hexidigital: no, thanks
[06:07] <gordonjcp> Keneo: ah, so it is
[06:07] <Leo`> ok andcor..i will try
[06:07] <andcor> squalooo: yes, the device is installed as eth0. you can then enable it by using the iwconfig command
[06:07] <Leo`> thanx
[06:07] <andcor> squalooo: iwconfig eth0 essid ESSID enc ENCRYPTION
[06:08] <Nutubuntu> I'm upgrading my Dapper box's video card from a (don't laugh please) ATi Rage 3D Pro to a (don't laugh please) ATi 9600 Pro AIW. Does this procedure make sense? Backup xorg.conf. - Install Envy. - Down the box and swap the cards. - Boot and run Envy. - Start X and the GDM. - What have I left out? (Besides "Go buy Nvidia card"?)
[06:08] <andcor> squalooo: replace the ESSID and ECNCRYPTION with the data from your network
[06:08] <JuJuBoSc> #ubuntu-fr
[06:08] <squalooo> andcor i have the router, how can connected to it?
[06:09] <andcor> squalooo: you have to know the essid and ecryption type
[06:09] <afflux> this should go to andcor, shouldn't it, Leo`? ;)
[06:09] <gilligan_> Nutubuntu, "Envy" ?
[06:09] <andcor> afflux: yes it should i think, I have responded
[06:09] <unop> Nutubuntu,  i'd move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak, shutdown, swap card, boot up and reconfigure/recreate xorg.conf
[06:09] <davidwinter> hi all. Is there a way I can get Ubuntu to redetect the network hardware on my laptop so it shows up in Network Configuration?
[06:09] <squalooo> ancor essid i know!
[06:10] <roxxy> anyone know how to set up matrox dual head vga card?
[06:10] <andcor> squalooo: not the encryption
[06:10] <Nutubuntu> gilligan_ - Envy's a python script that d/ls the Nvidia or ATi driver and -- if you want -- reconfigures xorg.conf
[06:10] <Nutubuntu> unop - it's the reconfigure xorg.conf I'm worried about
[06:10] <unop> Nutubuntu,  what you worried about?
[06:11] <squalooo> what is the encryption? the password? wep/wap?
[06:11] <andcor> yes
[06:11] <squalooo> yes i know!
[06:11] <gilligan_> Nutubuntu, you probably don't really have to change anything besides one line.. the Driver line
[06:11] <unop> lol
[06:11] <Nutubuntu> unop - just that I haven't dug into xorg.conf -- I'm kind of new to linux & ubuntu -- if it's as easy as it sounds I should be okay : )
[06:11] <gilligan_> Nutubuntu, and actually perhaps even that does not have to be changed
[06:11] <ikonia_> I'm having problems with ubuntu's apache + php5 package combination. php files are being asked to "download" instead of served up. The php5.load file shows the php5 to load if it exists, it does exist, but I'm not %100 its being loaded. The AddType php etc is setup and working fine.
[06:11] <andcor> squalooo: then try reading what the "man iwconfig" tells you
[06:12] <ikonia_> is there a way to query the apache modules currently loaded
[06:12] <gilligan_> Nutubuntu, as both cards are ati cards.. maybe both use the "ati" driver
[06:12] <Nutubuntu> gilligan_ - thanks - I guess I'm just looking for obvious (to other eyes) things I'd left out ...
[06:12] <sonsnix> when compiling and linking a my own program, i can double click and it runs perfectly. after uploading and download the file again, i can't double click the file anymore, only execute it in the console after changing the permissions
[06:12] <gilligan_> Nutubuntu, you should be fine :)
[06:12] <Nutubuntu> Okay ... "cover me, I'm going in"
[06:12] <ikonia_> sonsnix uploading/downloading changes the permissions to the mask of the user downloading
[06:13] <suppaman> hi
[06:13] <boardman> exit
[06:15] <SanketMedhi> hello, i just upgraded my Fesity installation, and now GDM won't start. I get an error saying "could not open default font 'fixed'". Any idea?
[06:15] <ikonia_> SanketMedhi /join #ubuntu+1 for festiy support
[06:15] <charl_ie> !hi | suppaman
[06:15] <SanketMedhi> ikonia_: ok tx
[06:15] <ubotu> suppaman: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:15] <ikonia_> SanketMedhi that font message is a red herring
[06:16] <sonsnix> ikonia_: ok, thanks, but after changing the permissions, i still can not execute it by double-clicking
[06:16] <suppaman> hi, I've got a friend with a problem
[06:16] <ikonia_> sonsnix what happens when you do - why type of program is it
 hi, I've got a friend with a problem
[06:16] <ikonia_> oops
[06:16] <ikonia_> suppaman just ask the question
[06:16] <suppaman> he is installing ubuntu on a macintel, grub fails installation so I'd like to tell him to install lilo
[06:16] <sonsnix> ikonia_: i tried 777 755... it's binary, created with gcc. a message box says: "no suitable application found" or something
[06:17] <ikonia_> sonsnix is it launched from a shell like a "hello world" type app
[06:17] <suppaman> but I'm not able to determine what partition has allocated for root
[06:17] <suppaman> he's on the phone actually
[06:17] <ikonia_> suppaman just tell him to install grub
[06:17] <davidwinter> is there a way I can re-run network card detection?
[06:17] <suppaman> ikonia_ it fails
[06:17] <ikonia_> suppaman at this level you should not be trying to tell him stuff you don't understand
[06:17] <sonsnix> ikonia_: no, it uses wxwidgets, and that uses gtk i think
[06:17] <ikonia_> suppaman it fails if you install it manually
[06:18] <suppaman> ikonia_ why do you think I don't understand these things ?
[06:18] <ikonia_> sonsnix so what are you expecting to happen - a gtk box to open or something ?
[06:18] <ikonia_> suppaman because you can't work out what his root partition is
[06:18] <suppaman> ikonia_: suprise me, how'd you do it ?
[06:18] <ikonia_> suppaman do what ?
[06:18] <sonsnix> http://cptracer.googlecode.com/files/wxCPTracer-Rev-8 <- check this download, executing from console should work, double-clicking doesnt work
[06:19] <ikonia_> install grub ?
[06:19] <suppaman> see the partition table
[06:19] <ikonia_> suppaman fdisk -l $device
[06:19] <suppaman> nice how you tell that to a person who doesn't know what device is he using ?
[06:19] <sonsnix> ikonia_: a gtk frame should open, with a menu and stuff
[06:19] <suppaman> ikonia I tried to have grep it by dmesg but without success
[06:19] <ikonia_> suppaman well you work it out if its an ide or a scsi or sata disk, and how many disks he has
[06:20] <ikonia_> sonsnix that link doesn't work
[06:20] <ikonia_> sonsnix sorry
[06:20] <suppaman> macintels are sata so I think (never had sata) it'd be sd*
[06:20] <ikonia_> suppaman there you go then
[06:20] <suppaman> I made him grep sda and he was scared of the output
[06:20] <ikonia_> suppaman doesn't sound like you'd understand it anyway
[06:21] <sonsnix> it doesnt?
[06:21] <suppaman> I don't think so
[06:21] <ikonia_> suppaman then get on with fixing it then
[06:21] <aetherspoon> can anyone spare a moment to help me try to figure out what is going on with my very static-filled sound (or point me to where I could find some help)?  I'm running a build of Feisty, and I know it was working fine under Dapper.  Warning, I'm a bit of a newbie.
[06:22] <ikonia_> suppaman if he got output from greping for sd - then you know it returned a value - which means there is a disk called sd$
[06:22] <ikonia_> suppaman a man of your skills should be able to work that out
[06:22] <suppaman> wow, ironic
[06:22] <andcor> aetherspoon: #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <ikonia_> aetherspoon join #ubuntu+1 for fesity support
[06:22] <aetherspoon> thanks.
[06:22] <sonsnix> ikonia_: does this one work? http://code.google.com/p/cptracer/downloads/list
[06:22] <suppaman> I just came here to see if someone had already worked it on a macintel
[06:22] <ikonia_> suppaman worked what ?
[06:23] <ikonia_> sonsnix yes but when I click on your app it doesn'twork
[06:23] <leitao_> in which package I find "glibconfig.h"?
[06:23] <ikonia_> leitao_ glibc
[06:23] <ikonia_> oops
[06:23] <ikonia_> glib
[06:23] <suppaman> an ubuntu on macintel, as hw is pretty standard I just wanted to know what device hd is
[06:24] <leitao_> ikonia_: thx
[06:24] <ikonia_> suppaman well you can work it out
[06:24] <sonsnix> ikonia_: ok, thanks for your help, i'll first try to get that going ;)
[06:24] <ikonia_> sonsnix sorry about that
[06:24] <suppaman> I can
[06:24] <suppaman> thanks for pointing that out
[06:24] <ikonia_> suppaman you can now that you've been told the answer
[06:24] <ikonia_> lets see...got 1 disk and its sata..........
[06:24] <funpop> is there a more advanced theme manager available somewhere ?
[06:24] <ikonia_> !beryl >funpop
[06:24] <funpop> that actually lets me delete crap themes i donwloaded somewhere ?
[06:25] <faizoro> Perhaps someone has a suggestion for me.  I want to provide feedback re: herd4.  Trouble is- attempting to do this via the hardware db submit dialogue in the boot CD yeilds what appears to be a broken result: I answer all the questions, provide comments, submit it and it is received right?  What perplexes me is that when I go into the same menu/Hardware DB thing- it takes me to a page that reports basically that it couldn't find any u
[06:25] <faizoro> Anyway- my question is this: there are several hardware reports I would like to make concerning irregularities and failures- but I am not sure the mechanism provided does the job in my case.  On the other hand, maybe it works and it just doesn't report back to me correctly and Ubuntu got all the info it asked for.
[06:25] <faizoro> So what is the best venue to get my info to the right person.  I feel like my feedback would be helpful to a developer- but I am not sure what channel to take.  Do I then just submit a series of distinct bugs to the bug board (I checked, and not one of my bugs has been reported so far) or should I describe my experience succinctly in a single place- and put it or send it somewhere, since that seems to be the intended result of the Har
[06:25] <olimpico> How do i run a *.sh on Ubuntu, I tried ./* and didn't work
[06:25] <ikonia_> faizoro super spam flood - thanks for that
[06:25] <funpop> ikonia ?
[06:25] <suppaman> olimpico: is that executable ?
[06:25] <ikonia_> funpop what ?
[06:25] <olimpico> of course
[06:26] <funpop> what you wanted to tell me about beryl ?
[06:26] <ikonia_> funpop yes - I sent you a link
[06:26] <faizoro> no spam here- I hate spam.
[06:26] <andcor> squalooo: seems like we aren't able to make private messages
[06:26] <ikonia_> faizoro you just flooded the channel
[06:26] <funpop> i got it allready installed
[06:26] <ikonia_> funpop then emerald is the theme manager for you
[06:26] <funpop> but i wanna get lost of not needed metacity gtk themes
[06:26] <funpop> it doesnt let me uninstall themes too
[06:26] <suppaman> olimpico: be sure it's a shell script
[06:27] <ikonia_> suppaman again you show your skill
[06:27] <olimpico> suppaman: I get a weird error: HARDWARE PLATFORM UNDIFNED, execution aborted.
[06:27] <ikonia_> olimpico you can't do ./*.sh
[06:27] <ikonia_> olimpico you need to name the script
[06:27] <olimpico> ikonia: I did
[06:27] <faizoro> I love Feisty so much I am just begging for an opportunity to contribute to bug-shooting somehow on my platform (accer 9300-5317)
[06:27] <ikonia_> other wise it will loop theough the scripts
[06:27] <suppaman> ikonia_ that's why I answered to him
[06:27] <rage________> how do i list my harddrives in CL
[06:27] <ikonia_> olimpico put the script in the pastebin
[06:27] <funpop> i mean isnt there a better theme manager for the metacity/gtk themes ?
[06:27] <abhi> can anyone tell me how to create a guest account without hard drive access?
[06:28] <olimpico> ikonia: on Gentoo it runs!!! Is the original driver from Samsung Printer
[06:28] <ikonia_> abhi you can't
[06:28] <funpop> or is there a folder where i just can delete them ?
[06:28] <abhi> ikonia_:why
[06:28] <Milardovich> http://www.eco22.com/ranking/index.php?id=492
[06:28] <olimpico> is there a command to run a script?
[06:28] <suppaman> olimpico: file filename
[06:28] <olimpico> there was a command
[06:28] <ikonia_> abhi because users are stored the the disks
[06:28] <fowler> Hi, what version of GCC is in Feisty?
[06:29] <ikonia_> olimpico ./$script or sh $script
[06:29] <faizoro> Nobody has a sug for me?  I just really want to have coffee with a developer for an hour or so.  I'll pay the airfair (assuming ubuntu developers aren't in Nashville TN)
[06:29] <suppaman> ikonia_ from my high skillness I can say he was using * to avoid writing the filename but only on irc
[06:29] <ikonia_> fowler join #ubuntu+1 for fesity
[06:29] <fowler> Roger that; thanks
[06:29] <ikonia_> faizoro what are you talking about
[06:29] <ikonia_> suppaman fair enough
[06:29] <leitao_> ikonia_: I think I have installed all the glibc packages, But i can't find that header.
[06:29] <ikonia_> I don't see why he won't type the file name
[06:29] <ikonia_> leitao_ its glib
[06:29] <olimpico> ikonia: neither works
[06:29] <ikonia_> leitao_ not glibc
[06:30] <ikonia_> olimpico whats the error
[06:30] <leitao_> ikonia_: I have installed it too
[06:30] <funpop> pff
[06:30] <ikonia_> leitao_ glib-includes or something like that
[06:30] <Helmi> hmm guys how can i connect to my windows shares on other machines? is there any easy how-to around?
[06:30] <ikonia_> leitao_ search for glib package name
[06:30] <faizoro> The spam flood people said I layed on you- did the actual text I wrote come accross or did it like say "spam" or something?
[06:30] <ikonia_> faizoro no it flooded the screen so we couldn't read it
[06:30] <olimpico> Error: HARDWARE PLATFORM UNDIFNED, execution aborted.
[06:30] <faizoro> crud.  :(
[06:31] <ikonia_> olimpico put the script in the pastebin
[06:31] <ikonia_> olimpico or type file $script against the script name
[06:32] <Leo`> nothing...even the cursor is stuck :(
[06:32] <olimpico> ikonia: it's the orginial linux driver from Samsung: http://support.samsung.de/fileview.aspx?modelcode=ML-1510&fileid=303014&fileType=DR
[06:32] <ikonia_> olimpico please run file against it
[06:33] <ikonia_> a driver is not a script
[06:33] <olimpico> I have installed it several times in several distros, never had a problem. Just now with ubuntu it doesnt start
[06:33] <ikonia_> olimpico it sounds like its runnign the script but can't match your hardware
[06:33] <faizoro> Perhaps someone has a suggestion for me.  I want to provide feedback re: herd4.  Trouble is- attempting to do this via the hardware db submit dialogue in the boot CD yeilds what appears to be a broken result: I
[06:33] <florides> see ya all
[06:33] <faizoro> answer all the questions, provide comments, submit it and it is received right?  What perplexes me is that when I go into the same menu/Hardware DB thing- it takes me to a page that reports basically that it couldn't find any useful info on
[06:33] <faizoro> my laptop (that's the first thing it says), then below that it says basically "therefor, we are assuming this is a desktop system".  The wording it's self is perplexing- as if it knows I am on a laptop- though that wasn't one of the questions I answered- and then it rejects the idea that I am on a laptop.
[06:33] <faizoro> Anyway- my question is this: there are several hardware reports I would like to make concerning irregularities and failures- but I am not sure the mechanism provided does the job in my case.  On the other
[06:34] <faizoro> hand, maybe it works and it just doesn't report back to me correctly and Ubuntu got all the info it asked for.
[06:34] <ikonia_>  use launchpad
[06:34] <faizoro> So what is the best venue to get my info to the right person.  I feel like my feedback would be helpful to a developer- but I am not sure what channel to take.  Do I then just submit a series of distinct bugs to the bug board (I checked, and not one of my bugs has been reported so far)
[06:34] <faizoro> or should I describe my experience succinctly in a single place- and put it or send it somewhere, since that seems to be the intended result of the Hardware DB submission interview?
[06:34] <Leo`> can i install ubuntu from text mode ?
[06:34] <ikonia_>  use launchpad
[06:34] <ikonia_> Leo` use the alternate cd
[06:34] <gilligan_> Leo`, with the alternative install cd, yes
[06:34] <andcor> Leo`: use the alternate cd
[06:35] <Leo`> ok
[06:35] <Leo`> thanx
[06:35] <gilligan_> there you go.. 3 times..can't be wrong :)
[06:35] <DBFT> how do i open a multi part rar file?
[06:35] <Leo`> where can i get it ?
[06:35] <ikonia_> Leo` jesus dude = ubuntu.com
[06:35] <andcor> same place you downloaded the other cd
[06:35] <posingaspopular> !rar
[06:35] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:35] <ikonia_> Leo` use your head a bit
[06:35] <Leo`> ok
[06:36] <Leo`> thanx
[06:36] <Leo`> i'm a fedora guy ;))
[06:36] <ikonia_> Leo` so do fedora guys not use google
[06:36] <ikonia_> I know I do
[06:36] <ikonia_> and I use fedora
[06:36] <gilligan_> Leo`, i heard rumors fedora ppl use their head as well
[06:36] <Shucknet> holy schneiks there are a lot of users in here!
[06:36] <suppaman> bye
[06:37] <DBFT> thanks posingaspopular :)
[06:37] <matthew1429> ive had my computer on for 3 mins and have had 6 connection attempts through ports 49061, 45605, 38838, 57077, 57078, and 38838
[06:37] <matthew1429> should I be worried?
[06:37] <Shucknet> Any e-mail server experts in here?  I have a few questions regarding best practices while I'm upgrading to a new server
[06:37] <cosmodad> matthew1429: absolutely not, as long as you don't use your name as password
[06:37] <matthew1429> okay
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> If I have a package that I removed but for some reason apt-get still thinks it's there, what command do I run to fix my package index for apt?  isn't it like apt-get --fix-something      ?
[06:37] <matthew1429> no, my pass is incredity strong
[06:37] <matthew1429> thx cosmodad
[06:38] <Shucknet> My old server is running something like Suse 6.0 with sendmail - all users have mbox format mail
[06:38] <cosmodad> matthew1429: we're being intrusion attempted dozens of a times pe day
[06:38] <ridoo> hey there -- got a prob with a new installation of postgresql 8.1
[06:38] <olimpico> ikonia: I can't believe that, I installed in the same laptop, but with gentoo the same driver. Obviously that's not the driver I'm trying to run, but a script that installs the driver.
[06:38] <Shucknet> I'd like to convert to Maildir, but wondering which is the best MTA and POP3/IMAP daemons to use - I have about 40 users
[06:38] <Norf-ubu> since yesterday i get a window with "internal error, failed to initialize HAL" - help wanted to track it down - ubuntu edgy
[06:38] <matthew1429> cosmodad: i guess I'm used to being worried about such things because of my relative freshness in freedom from windows
[06:39] <Shucknet> New server is running Ubuntu 6.06
[06:39] <cosmodad> matthew1429: you used to have the same worrying feelings when I started my linux admin job
[06:39] <cosmodad> matthew1429: I, not you
[06:39] <Shucknet> can Courier POP and IMAP support both maildir and mbox?
[06:40] <ikonia_> olimpico yes - but the driver may not support the kernel/hardware version ubuntu runs
[06:40] <ikonia_> hence why I KEEP asking you to put the script in the pastebin
[06:40] <Valandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[06:40] <cosmodad> matthew1429: if you're afraid of the traffic use something like fail2ban
[06:41] <olimpico> ikonia: On Gentoo I had much newer software and the same hardware
[06:41] <cosmodad> matthew1429: script kiddies try to do a lot of mischief on the ssh port
[06:41] <derblubber> on my geforce 4 the TV out is always only grey without colours. how can i fix that? running ubuntu edgy
[06:42] <kelsin> derblubber: this with an svideo cable?
[06:42] <gordonjcp> cosmodad: that's why I forward ssh to port 22 on my shell server from an "odd" port
[06:42] <Shucknet> anyone have a recommendation for email?  Migrating from sendmail/mbox with 40 users
[06:42] <itodd> when booting the latest amd64 kernel, instead of the normal splash screen, i see what looks like a screen calibration screen. anyone know what this means?
[06:42] <derblubber> yes
[06:43] <kelsin> derblubber: sometimes it's a problem with your cable or your svideo-rca converter if you'r using one, and nothing to do with software, we ran into that on gentoo for a mythtv box
[06:43] <kelsin> derblubber: I found some stuff about it by just googling
[06:43] <derblubber> yea im playing with mythtv too at the moment
[06:43] <derblubber> ok
[06:44] <kelsin> derblubber: http://www.chinastillcool.co.uk/solutions/SVIDSCART/adapterfix.html that's where I found some info, past that just google, but it could have nothing to do with ubuntu depending on the hardware you're using
[06:45] <derblubber> ah well im just using a svideo cable, no connector or anything, straight to my tvs s-video in
[06:47] <hjmills> is anybody else having problems with evolution-data-server?
[06:48] <kelsin> derblubber: it possibly can be the tv's svideo in not supporting the right stuff too, good luck
[06:48] <sanzky> hi everyone, I have just upgraded an old ubuntu (5.10) to 6.06 but now my system is bronken, it says -that /dev/hda1 doesnt exists
[06:49] <hjmills> sanzky, is that your main hard drive?
[06:49] <khally> hey
[06:49] <khally> my load avg is reading this "load average: 30.97, 29.06, 24.60"
[06:49] <khally> wow
[06:49] <khally> but top says nothing is eating up cpu
[06:49] <khally> wtf!
[06:49] <sandrinux> hi all
[06:50] <sanzky> hjmills, yes, / is there
[06:50] <hjmills> sanzky, what do you want - that version of linux to work or a new one put on using your old home?
[06:51] <kmu> is there a way to specify on the command line which workspace you want a program to belong to?
[06:51] <sanzky> i would prefer to keep the one i have
[06:51] <hjmills> kmu, run it when switched to that workspace or look into devilspie
[06:52] <hjmills> sanzky, hm- i would imagine you should start looking at how to redo the autodetection or check the upgrade hasnt got your optical drives and hard drives confused (so /dev/hda1 is not /dev/hdb1)
[06:53] <eRazo1> Hi everyone here
[06:53] <goomie> Does build-essential include a c++ compiler ?
[06:53] <eRazo1> I am an Ubutnu beginner
[06:53] <sanzky> the system drops me to a bult in console, but there is practically nothing at /dev
[06:53] <Shucknet> if I am changing the hostname of my machine, do I need to put hostname.hostdomain.com in both the /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files or can I just put the hostname (without the domain) in the /etc/hostname file?
[06:53] <asdf25> goomie: yes
[06:53] <eRazo1> I have a dual boot system, one OS is XP and the other is Ubuntu
[06:54] <sandrinux> Is there a way to boot with only console (no X session) in Edgy 6.10 please?
[06:54] <eRazo1> Anyone listening to me?
[06:54] <posingaspopular> eRazo1: yes
[06:54] <posingaspopular> !ask
[06:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <kmu> hjmills: i have a program that starts at boot and creates a gui that i don't want to see. i know that right clicking on its button on the task bar and selecting "move to workspace right" is making the call that i need. if i just knew what that was???
[06:54] <rem_> sandrinux -> press "ALT" "F1" ..
[06:54] <eRazo1> posingaspopular: Ok thanks
[06:55] <kmu> hjmills: correction, it starts at log on
[06:55] <eRazo1> When I reinstalled my XP the grub was removed from my system
[06:55] <rem_> "ALT" "F7" gets u back to X ..
[06:55] <AMD-ubuntuPOWER> eRazo1get back to live cd
[06:55] <posingaspopular> you installed XP after ubuntu
[06:56] <sandrinux> rem but so the X session is open, I wont to open it only if I need with a "startx" or something like that
[06:56] <Shucknet> when I change my hostname, then run hostname -f I get a "hostname: Unknown host"
[06:56] <eRazo1> When I inserted the boot CD of Edgy Eft and tried to reinstall GRUB, Ubuntu says "No block Device found"
[06:56] <eRazo1> Can anyone help please
[06:56] <hjmills> kmu, devilspie then
[06:56] <AMD-ubuntuPOWER> yes
[06:56] <eRazo1> Sorry its not boot CD its Live CD i.e. the installation CD
[06:57] <posingaspopular> !grub
[06:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:57] <hjmills> sanzky, what is at /dev?
[06:57] <rem_> sandrinux... the X session will be stay at the login on "ALT" "F7" ...you can then go in X with startx or going to "ALT" "F7" ..
[06:57] <goomie> asdf25: im trying to install vmplayer and its saying no pre-built vmmon modules are suitable for my kernel, am i missing something?
[06:57] <AMD-ubuntuPOWER> run the live cd open a terminal and type grub
[06:57] <goomie> asdf25: it says it can build one(with a C compiler installed) but i havnt had to do this on other machines
[06:57] <sanzky> hjmills, let me check, Im chrooting right now
[06:58] <eRazo1> posingaspopular: ubotu: Wait I'll read that how to and comeback
[06:58] <sandrinux> rem_, Yes, I know that way, but I'd like to boot "without" any X session open.
[06:58] <asdf25> goomie: it's supposed to say that, whenever i use vmware it compiles the kernel modules. i guess it just includes some precompiled ones for common kernels, but compiling them works fine
[06:58] <posingaspopular> eRazo1: ubotu is a bot
[06:59] <goomie> asdf25: then i guess im lost at where the location of the C header files are for my kernel
[06:59] <rem_> ok...there is a file where you can say what level u log in...you should have 3 instead of 5 in there ... I did that a while ago ..hold on..try to remember ..
[06:59] <Alam_Ubuntu> /usr/src/'uname -r'-headers
[06:59] <hjmills> sandrinux, stop gdm (or kdm) running at boot and it wont start x - then u can run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" to get to the normal login screen
[07:00] <asdf25> goomie: "sudo apt-cache search linux-headers", then install the package corresponding to your kernel version ("uname -a" to find out)
[07:00] <asdf25> and it'll put it in /usr/src/linux-whatever/include
[07:00] <goomie> asdf25: i figured i needed something else thanks a bunch
[07:00] <MarcoCeppi> Okay, this is a weird question, but I want to take whatever is being fed into Line In and pipe it straight to the speakers. Is there a way to do this in linux?
[07:00] <goomie> asdf25: ill hash it out from here
[07:01] <sandrinux> hjmills, OK , thanks , that seems to be what I was looking for :-)
[07:02] <rem_> sandrinux -> /etc/inittab ...thats the file ..
[07:02] <kmu> hjmills: thank you
[07:02] <hjmills> kmu sandrinux sure :d
[07:04] <hjmills> MarcoCeppi, sounds like a perfectly normal question - unfortunatly i dont know the answer
[07:04] <Vhata> what's the standard policy for the location of virtualhosts in apache?  the default site goes in /var/www with CGIs in /usr/lib/cgi, but where would I put the stuff for a virtualhost?   /usr/local/somehost/{htdocs,cgi}  ?  or what?  surely there should be some standard place for virtualhosts?
[07:04] <rendo> Are there any programs available in Ubuntu that can be used for Flash creation, similar to Flash MX?
[07:04] <MarcoCeppi> hjmills do you know if it's possible atleast?
[07:04] <rem_> k, normally its like that...but in ubuntu its a bit diff...ill see if I can find ... http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch07_:_The_Linux_Boot_Process
[07:05] <hjmills> rendo, i have heard dreamweaver works under wine - flash may as well
[07:05] <Alam_Ubuntu> how can stop one user using GNOME Desktop Interface from doing shutdown/restart, I just want only log-off , switch user and lock screen
[07:05] <hjmills> MarcoCeppi, im just googling
[07:05] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: what's your question?
[07:05] <rendo> Flash MX MIGHT work under wine hjmills?
[07:05] <sandrinux> rem_, hjmills , thanks, my problem is that I have a very old PC, and I sometimes need to work only with some console programs (like dvd-slideshow) . So I am trying to save a part of my CPU and RAM to work faster...
[07:05] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: I want to take whatever is being fed into Line In and pipe it straight to the speakers.
[07:05] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: feedback basically?
[07:05] <hjmills> sandrinux, very sensible :D
[07:06] <sandrinux> no, just a question of time :-)
[07:06] <hjmills> xtknight, not feedback if its not a microphone input - it could be an mp3 player or similar
[07:06] <SCanztz> i really need to be able to access some files in my windows dir so i can back them up
[07:06] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight, I guess you could say that. The issue is my TV Speaker wire ports don't work, but the AV out does, I don't have anything but computer speakers to use, I have the cables to take it from av to comuter input, I just need it to link straight to audio out
[07:07] <SCanztz>  i really need to be able to access some files in my windows dir so i can back them up. how do i do that
[07:07] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: ahh gotcha
[07:07] <hjmills> SCanztz, what file system is it on the xp partition?
[07:07] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: certainly possible by all means (i know how to do it in windows but not linux).  all that would have to happen would be for something to read line-in and write the same thing out
[07:07] <eRazo1> posingaspopular: I did not get u
[07:07] <SCanztz> NTFS
[07:07] <zan_> http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Friends_2_0_New_Consulting_Firm_Offers_to_Optimize_your_Social_Life
[07:07] <zan_> is that for real?
[07:07] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: in fact i used to use it for TV
[07:08] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: Okay, good to know it's possible.
[07:08] <asdf25> MarcoCeppi: cat /dev/{wherever_linein_is} > /dev/{sound_output} maybe? i don't know what the line-in device file would be though, something in /dev/snd if it exists
[07:08] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: i believe it's called loopback or feedback.  as for actually getting it to work, try screwing with the alsa mixer.  i'm pretty sure i got my tv working with alsa
[07:08] <yaccin> !theme
[07:08] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:08] <yaccin> !changethemes
[07:08] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[07:08] <xtknight>  /dev/dsp would be sound output
[07:08] <yaccin> o.O
[07:08] <hjmills> MarcoCeppi, try piping a recording program to a playback program
[07:08] <hjmills> MarcoCeppi, http://ccrma.stanford.edu/mirrors/lalists/lau/2002/11/0008.html
[07:09] <sanzky> hjmills, thanks four your help, it seems that installing a new kernel fixed the problem
[07:09] <eRazo1>  posingaspopular: ubotu: Thanks for your help. I think I got the perfect answer. I'll try that and come back
[07:09] <rem_> sandrinux -> you could put run level 3 in /etc/inittab for example and then take S13gdm out of /etc/rc3.d/ and that way gdm (Gnome) wont start ... without any guarantee....but thats what I would try ...
[07:09] <SCanztz> hjmills?
[07:09] <omar> I have a problem with my screen going blank when enabling DRI with fglrx :(
[07:10] <omar> using an ati radeon 9800 pro
[07:10] <MarcoCeppi> hjmills xtknight asdf25: thank you all, I'll give those a try and get back to you if they work.
[07:10] <yaccin> my gtk theme doesnt work right
[07:10] <hjmills> SCanztz, oh sorry - ddnt notice the reply
[07:10] <yaccin> it looks really ugly :(
[07:11] <turbostar> firefox running sucks on my pc. always get it crashed
[07:11] <hjmills> SCanztz, look on the ubuntu guide to find out how to mount ntfs filesystems then you can use it as you would a normal fs
[07:11] <turbostar> any suggestion for other good browser?
[07:11] <SCanztz> i have already been trying
[07:11] <SCanztz> do i use NTFS-3g??
[07:11] <hjmills> turbostar, try galleon or epiphany for gnome or dillo for a real light weight browser
[07:12] <kenthomson> HELP; i need to use the fonts that i use on gedit in abiword, in gedit it says i use "theme-default-font". But i don't know its name, which font should i select in abiword to get the same as in gedit? In the preferences>fonts i am having "sans" everywhere except fixed width font which is "mono". please help
[07:12] <turbostar> dillo. okay thanks
[07:12] <asdf25> SCanztz: you should be
[07:12] <rem_> turbostar...I had probs too with firefox...I installed Opera since 3 months without a prob...and no cpu 100% etc .. !
[07:12] <hjmills> SCanztz, yup - should be similar to "sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs-3g /media/windows"
[07:12] <abhi> can anyone tell me how to configure kshutdown in ubuntu
[07:12] <rem_> turbo : http://deb.opera.com/opera/
[07:12] <turbostar> rem_ : really? i should try opera then
[07:12] <hjmills> kenthomson, look in System>Preferences>Fonts and find out what the default font is - probably Sans
[07:12] <SCanztz> what does FUSE do?
[07:12] <turbostar> thanks for the link
[07:12] <kenthomson> rem_, Opera is proprietary software please don't spread word about it. Its enough that we are having enough proprietary bloaches around
[07:13] <SCanztz>  what does FUSE do?
[07:13] <hjmills> SCanztz, its for userspace filesystems
[07:13] <martman_> random question - how come initrd.img and vmlinuz are in / instead of /boot?
[07:13] <hjmills> !repeat | SCanztz
[07:13] <ubotu> SCanztz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:13] <SCanztz> do i need it for nt
[07:13] <SCanztz> soorrry
[07:13] <SCanztz> do i need fuse for ntfs-3g?
[07:13] <hjmills> SCanztz, you need fuse to use ntfs-3g
[07:13] <rem_> ok kent ... just sharing personal experience with browsers...dont have any other interest in them ..
[07:13] <kenthomson> hjmills, in >fonts it says i am having "sans" everywhere except fixed width font which is "monospace", but when i select "sans" in gedit and then right a couple of things it looks different then when i check the option "use-theme-default-font"
[07:14] <hjmills> kenthomson, have you tried monospace then?
[07:14] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: i am pretty sure what you want to do is to raise the volume of "line in" on the playback section of the mixer (dont forget to unmute it).  cant confirm it atm.  i'd tend to think i'd hear a little noise even if nothing was connected.
[07:14] <kenthomson> hjmills, i can't select monospace in abiword from the font drop-down menu, it doesn't appear!
[07:15] <craigbass1976> Hey folks, I'm shopping for a printer.  Linuxprinting.org isn't real specific as to model numbers (unless you alread ahve the model number and are checking to see if it works--I'd kind of like to know before laying any cash out) so I'm wondering if anyone has recently bought a printer for photos that works "perfectly."
[07:15] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: okay I'm reinstalling edgy now, I'll try that first and go from there. Playback section as in the audio controls?
[07:15] <hjmills> kenthomson, try selecting it manually in gedit then first
[07:15] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: type "alsamixer" and Playback should be selected at the top (it is until you press tab to switch to the "Recording" or "All" mixing sections)
[07:15] <kenthomson> hjmills, when i try to find "sans" or "monospace" at "fonts:///" i get nothing of its name
[07:16] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: it's also in "gnome-volume-control".  gnome-volume-control gives you access to switches that the ncurses-based alsamixer doesn't seem to, as a matter of fact
[07:16] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: what sound card?
[07:16] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: onboard, but I have a SoundBlaster card that I can plug in if need be.
[07:16] <SCanztz> i unpaked FUSe
[07:16] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: and also, does the sound pass through during computer bootup when drivers for the board aren't loaded?  i am pretty sure mine did.  just like my video card outputs to component out before drivers are even loaded
[07:16] <SCanztz> how do i install it
[07:17] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: wait, what was that last part?
[07:17] <kenthomson> hjmills in gedit i can select sans size 10 and it is my system default, but i can't find a font by the name of "sans" in "fonts:///" or in the drop-down menu at abiword. HELP
[07:17] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: most pc devices have a mode where 'everything' works during computer POST (for debug purposes).  i was just curious if your sound card happened to output line-in during startup
[07:18] <turbostar> is fluxbox is okay for old machine like mine? anyone?
[07:18] <rem_> btw im all for open source software.-..but when I find none that work (after searching and trying, trying..)and find a proprietary one that works fine I'll probably end up using that one...at least until the opensource ones work fine .. seems like all mozilla driven (mozilla, seamonkey, firefox, epiphany ...) use 100% after a while and crash ... thats my personal experience ...
[07:18] <funpop> !sessions
[07:18] <kenthomson> please help me with a weird font problem;  in gedit i can select sans size 10 and it is my system default, but i can't find a font by the name of "sans" in "fonts:///" or in the drop-down menu at abiword. HELP
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <funpop> !autostart
[07:18] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[07:18] <SCanztz> how do i install a unpacked file
[07:18] <asdf25> turbostar: yeah, fluxbox is very simple and fast
[07:18] <craigbass1976> Oh, oops.  There is a list of suggested printers...
[07:18] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: I have no idea, I havn't tried.
[07:18] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: I'll give it a try.
[07:18] <asdf25> turbostar: fvwm is good too
[07:18] <funpop> where can i see the real autostart entries ? _sessions_ doesnt show em all
[07:19] <kenthomson> How do i select the "sans" font in abiword
[07:19] <SCanztz> i dont know how to install FUSE
[07:20] <asdf25> kenthomson: i think Sans is an alias for either Deja Vu Sans or Bitstream Vera Sans, so try those
[07:21] <guest47> Oh boy... After the last package upgrade, my X server wouldn't load anymore. "apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg xfonts-base fontconfig" fixed it, but I am still wondering why it broke in the first place... Known problem?
[07:21] <jimmii> SCanztz: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/
[07:21] <SCanztz> it doesnt make sense
[07:22] <SCanztz> when i type: > ./configure
[07:22] <SCanztz> >  make
[07:22] <SCanztz> >  make install
[07:22] <SCanztz> nothing happens
[07:22] <rem_> guest 47...had the same prob, when I dist-upgrade ~4 months ago ..
[07:22] <jimmii> you dont have to type the >
[07:22] <asdf25> SCanztz: are you actually typing those >'s? that would be a problem
[07:22] <kenthomson> asdf25, thanks! it helped tremendously
[07:23] <drumline> Can wireshark sniff wireless traffic also?   I don't think it'll do the 802.11 headers, but it'll do the IP traffic wont it?
[07:23] <xtknight> SCanztz: it probably won't do much unless you do sudo on make install
[07:23] <xtknight> drumline: definitely, if it's a network interface
[07:23] <asdf25> SCanztz: and it would have overwritten the configure script too, so you'd need to re-untar the stuff
[07:23] <funpop> where can i see the real autostart entries ? _sessions_ doesnt show em all
[07:23] <xtknight> drumline: and they have quite a few protocol decoders in wireshark (ethereal).  so i wouldnt doubt that it would do whatever you throw at it if it's network related
[07:23] <drumline> xtknight: cool.. . do you know if it does the 802.11 headers?
[07:23] <xtknight> drumline: no idea
[07:23] <SCanztz> do you mean" sudo make install [what do i type here] ?
[07:23] <drumline> cool...
[07:24] <eagles0513875> how do i run fsck on a floppy
[07:24] <abisen> in ubuntu (i have amd64 installation) how do i install 32 bit apps like acroread and others i cant even find them on my apt
[07:24] <eagles0513875> !fsck
[07:24] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:24] <drumline> xtknight: not really necessary in my case though...  thanks
[07:24] <asdf25> Scanztz: "./configure ; make ; sudo make install"
[07:24] <guest47> rem_: How very weird. I upgraded last week and it ran fine, updated yesterday and it broke...
[07:24] <SCanztz> how does it know to install fuse?
[07:25] <asdf25> you should be running those commands from inside a fuse source directory you just untar'd
[07:25] <guest47> Anyhow. I'm off irssi and back to a real IRC client, now that I got my X back :-)
[07:25] <drumline> EPIC, the real IRC client
[07:25] <drumline> :)
[07:26] <rem_> ..I saw on one of the ubuntu pages about the upgrade that there more ppl that had that prob ...
[07:26] <omar> aha! anyone know how i'd downgrade my xorg? i'm at 7.1.1 and would like 7.0
[07:26] <tute666__> has anybody noticed any abnormal behaviour after updating firefox in 6.10 ?
[07:26] <fr500> any good small business server you recommend
[07:26] <eagles0513875> no tute
[07:26] <eagles0513875> what kinda behavior r u getting
[07:26] <SCanztz> i dont know how to open the fuse source directory
[07:26] <fr500> with web interface, proxy, mail, antispam, etc with a easy to use interface?
[07:26] <SCanztz> o wait
[07:26] <SCanztz> nm
[07:26] <asdf25> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/fuse/fuse-2.6.3.tar.gz?modtime=1170605792&big_mirror=0
[07:26] <jimmii> tute: yes, segmentation fault
[07:26] <asdf25> then tar zxf filename
[07:27] <bluszcz> hello
[07:27] <eagles0513875> scanz what u trying to do with the fuser
[07:27] <bluszcz> how can i prepare my own ubuntu installator with 2.6.20 kernel?
[07:28] <SCanztz> im installing it so i can install ntfs-3g so i can acces my windows die
[07:28] <SCanztz> dir*
[07:28] <drumline> so that ntfs-3g really is flawless eh?
[07:28] <sonsnix> SCanztz: what about the ntfs-3g package?
[07:29] <SCanztz> wat about it
[07:29] <asdf25> are you sure fuse isn't installed by default? "sudo modprobe fuse" to check? i'm fairly sure i didn't need to manually install fuse from source when i did it, maybe i used some repository or automatix or something
[07:29] <SCanztz> im supposed to install it once i have installed fuse
[07:29] <soundray> asdf25: it's not installed by default -- maybe you got it as a dependency
[07:29] <pavs> !ntfs-3g
[07:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:30] <sonsnix> sccanztz: i didn't read your previous posts, sorry, but the package ntfs-3g worked very well for me
[07:30] <drumline> sonsnix: any errors?
[07:30] <sonsnix> drumline: not so far
[07:30] <SCanztz> when i type: ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[07:30] <SCanztz> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[07:30] <SCanztz> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:30] <diemos> !bcnm34xx
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcnm34xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <sonsnix> scanztz: when there's no makefile, configure didn't work
[07:31] <drumline> sonsnix: cool...
[07:31] <SCanztz> so how do i make a makefile?
[07:31] <asdf25> yeah just run ./configure by ltself
[07:31] <sonsnix> check the output of configure
[07:31] <asdf25> from the fuse directory
[07:31] <Shrimpy> mkdir
[07:32] <sonsnix> if there's no makefile, configure should give an error, like missing headers or something
[07:32] <^Ocean^> is there any program i can run that will Detect my Monitor Video Horzsync and VertRefresh settings I can use for X?
[07:32] <Shrimpy> if nothing happens, then it worked
[07:32] <SCanztz> so whats the correct command to type?
[07:32] <sonsnix> ./configure
[07:32] <SCanztz> then?
[07:33] <soundray> ^Ocean^: ddcprobe
[07:33] <asdf25> SCanztz: then it should print a bunch of stuff, ending with "creating Makefile" somewhere in there, unless something goes wrong
[07:33] <jmazaredo> should me linux-image, linux restricted module and glx be the same or just restricted and glx be the same
[07:33] <SCanztz> no
[07:33] <sonsnix> what does it print then?
[07:33] <SCanztz> i type ./configure and nothing happens
[07:33] <^Ocean^> nice..
[07:33] <SCanztz> just the next line
[07:33] <sonsnix> you are in the correct directory?
[07:34] <asdf25> you should be in the fuse-2.6.3 directory
[07:34] <SCanztz> i is
[07:34] <asdf25> type "cat configure", does anything happen?
[07:34] <SCanztz> no
[07:34] <asdf25> if you ran "> ./configure" that would have deleted the configure file
[07:35] <SCanztz> so i must re unpack it?
[07:35] <asdf25> yeah
[07:35] <Shrimpy> !sound
[07:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:36] <sebastiaan> !atidrivers
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atidrivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <soundray> !msgthebot | sebastiaan
[07:36] <ubotu> sebastiaan: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:37] <RV> sebastiaan: for ati or nvidia drivers, you should look for "envy"
[07:37] <RV> it's magic! :)
[07:37] <ravion> Having trouble with WPA2-PSK authentication. wpa_supplicant says: "0: 00:40:10:20:00:03 ssid='dd-wrt' wpa_ie_len=0 rsn_ie_len=22 caps=0x11 skip - no WPA/RSN proto match". I have the ssid set as "dd-wrt", proto=WPA and key_mgmt=WPA-PSK. Any hints?
[07:37] <SCanztz> o thank god
[07:37] <sebastiaan> abusing? i'm trying to figure out how to install my vidcard lol
[07:37] <SCanztz> but there are always more problems
[07:37] <^Ocean^> soundray, were would i get ddcprobe
[07:37] <soundray> sebastiaan: ask the channel before you throw random lines at the bot
[07:37] <SCanztz> after .configure
[07:37] <SCanztz> wat next
[07:38] <asdf25> make
[07:38] <sebastiaan> allright
[07:38] <soundray> ^Ocean^: it's in the xresprobe package
[07:38] <SCanztz> already did that
[07:38] <SCanztz> k cool
[07:38] <asdf25> then if there are no problems with that, "sudo make install"
[07:38] <Shrimpy> does any one know about having your sound card work with only one program. and know how to fix it?
[07:38] <SCanztz> after make?
[07:38] <asdf25> yup
[07:38] <^Ocean^> soundray, and it dont tell me the horizontal and vertical refresh...
[07:38] <^Ocean^> only the video modes
[07:38] <KJW> I want to be able to delete files from /home/username/ on shutdown and copy a set of default options from another location to /home/username/ on startup, what files do I need to put these in so they initiate on startup?
[07:38] <RV> sebastiaan: envy link => http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:38] <Shucknet> how do I tell if Postfix is configured for mbox or maildir?
[07:39] <soundray> ^Ocean^: not under "edid"?
[07:39] <KJW> and shutdown? ;)
[07:39] <^Ocean^> edid:
[07:39] <^Ocean^> edidfail
[07:39] <RV> sebastiaan: worked very well with few of my nvidias, and is supposed to work as well with ati.
[07:39] <SCanztz> after make??
[07:39] <sebastiaan> ty rv :)
[07:39] <asdf25> SCanztz: after running "make" you should run "sudo make install"
[07:39] <^Ocean^> hmm, maybe i cant run it while X is running ?
[07:39] <soundray> ^Ocean^: you might try from a text console
[07:40] <sonsnix> SCanztz: sudo make install
[07:40] <sonsnix> oh, sorry, double psot
[07:40] <SCanztz> after that?
[07:40] <asdf25> and if there were no problems with all that, "sudo modprobe fuse" should work
[07:40] <SCanztz> well nothing happens when i do that
[07:40] <SCanztz> it goes to a new line
[07:40] <Shucknet> no server guys on here?
[07:40] <asdf25> that's good, it worked
[07:41] <SCanztz> now i install ntfs?
[07:41] <asdf25> "lsmod | grep fuse" to see it loaded
[07:41] <asdf25> yeah you can install ntfs-3g now
[07:41] <SCanztz> ive met mark shuttleworth
[07:42] <Shrimpy> i've meet ted nelley
[07:42] <SCanztz> whos that
[07:42] <craigbass1976> Shucknet, Whatare you looking for?
[07:42] <Shucknet> working on migrating a really OLD e-mail server to new
[07:42] <sebastw> hello world
[07:42] <craigbass1976> Shucknet, ahh, don't bother, I jsut found your quesiton
[07:42] <Shucknet> I have installed postfix and saslauth
[07:43] <Shucknet> I'm trying to find out how to confirm that postfix is using mbox format
[07:43] <Shucknet> because that's what all of my existing mail is stored in
[07:43] <Shucknet> I have about 40 users
[07:43] <sebastw> someone know how reset compiz parameters ?
[07:43] <Shrimpy> hahah its the actor of jesus in "jesus christ superstar" (i still have some hippie in me)
[07:43] <SCanztz> yes but ted nelly didnt create ubuntu
[07:43] <Shrimpy> true
[07:43] <soundray> Shucknet: have you tried sending yourself an email?
[07:43] <SCanztz> im south african
[07:43] <Shrimpy> did you talk with him or just got to say hi
[07:44] <eRazo1> ubotu: and posingaspopular: Thanks for your help. I got my grub repaired. Thank You Very much
[07:44] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB
[07:44] <SCanztz> i won 2 tickets to a cocktail party to celebrate his return from space
[07:44] <Shrimpy> wow, thats amazing
[07:44] <asdf25> eRazol: ubotu's a bot by the way
[07:44] <Shucknet> soundray:  I don't want to take the old server offline until this one is up and running, and I have a lot of data migrated over so I was hoping to confirm it was setup properly before having it start writing data
[07:44] <SCanztz> it was cool
[07:44] <Shrimpy> i want to be the father of his child :)
[07:44] <SCanztz> i have a pic of him and that russian dude
[07:44] <Shucknet> soundray: but I can try a sample message using the IP
[07:44] <sebastw> anyone please ?
[07:45] <soundray> SCanztz, Shrimpy: can you continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps?
[07:45] <Shrimpy> sorry just killing time until somebody relpies
[07:45] <soundray> sebastw: ask in #ubuntu-effects please
[07:45] <SCanztz> soz
[07:45] <SCanztz> its cool
[07:45] <SCanztz> we good
[07:46] <sebastw> soulcatcher_, thanks
[07:46] <Shucknet> soundray: oops- can't send e-mail via the IP
[07:46] <eRazo1> What do you mean by "bot" ?
[07:46] <IndyGunFreak> !ubotu
[07:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:46] <asdf25> ubotu: compiz
[07:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:46] <soundray> !sound > Shrimpy, please read the pm from ubotu
[07:46] <asdf25> it does things like that
[07:47] <sonsnix> in gnome, when i open the properties-dialog of a file, there's a checkbox called something like: "Run file as program"
[07:47] <sonsnix> what exactly does that one do
[07:47] <napsy> tries to execute the selected file
[07:47] <soundray> sonsnix: it sets the executable flag
[07:47] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: yes i did the xorg thingy over and over and finally selected only one resoulution and it worked
[07:47] <Trentster>  hey all, Does any1 know if its possible to print to a windows printer on the lan through the firewall, using a combination of portwarding of releveant tcp and udp ports used for windows printing...or can reccomend some more elagant solution?
[07:47] <sonsnix> soundray: yes, but it has to do something else
[07:48] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: cool, so you got it to the resolution you wanted?
[07:48] <soundray> sonsnix: no, it doesn't
[07:48] <sonsnix> soundray: http://cptracer.googlecode.com/files/wxCPTracer-Rev-8 <- can you download that file?
[07:48] <SCanztz> is it ok to automatic install or should i manual install
[07:48] <craigbass1976> I want to turn ubuntu, with an external modem, into a fax/answering machine.  Is it pretty possible, or a pain to set up?
[07:48] <soundray> sonsnix: what is it, and why?
[07:48] <IndyGunFreak> SCanztz: what do you mean automatix install?
[07:48] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: yes sir! the only thing wrong now is my sound card. It works but with only one application
[07:48] <craigbass1976> Trentster, I believe so, with samba and cups
[07:49] <sonsnix> soundray: when i download that file and double-click it, i get a message box saying "no application suitable ...."
[07:49] <SCanztz> " Now you have the choice between an automatic configuration (via ntfs-config) or a manual configuration."
[07:49] <sonsnix> soundray: it's a binary executable
[07:49] <Trentster> craigbass1976, thanks
[07:49] <sonsnix> soundray: the executable flag is not set, but when i set it via chmod, i still get the message box
[07:49] <craigbass1976> Trentster, I'd sooner set up the printer on the linux box and share it out, but I suppose it could bedone the other way around
[07:49] <sonsnix> soundray: but when i check the box in the properties dialog, it is executable by double-clicking
[07:49] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: lol, if its not one thing its another, i'd make sure you take notes on what you're doing, maybe in a .doc file, and save them with your backups.., that way when you install feisty, or if you have some catastrophic failure and have to reinstall, you'll remember how to do it.
[07:50] <sonsnix> soundray: after chmodding it, it only runs in the console, although it's a gtk program
[07:50] <IndyGunFreak> i do this, and its leads me out of the wilderness frequently
[07:50] <sebrock> whenever I start a program it always starts in the upper left corner... is it not possible to open it on the location it was shut down on??
[07:51] <Shucknet> is there a pine package for ubuntu?
[07:51] <eagles0513875> !pine
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <eagles0513875> what is pine shucknet
[07:51] <bronze> "allo, please be tellink me what command is to restart SAMBA deamon? "
[07:51] <soundray> sonsnix: compare the result of your various actions using 'ls -l'
[07:51] <Shucknet> an e-mail client (text based - shell)
[07:51] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: yeah i actually been taking notes on these config files and things. (since i've reinstalled ubuntu a few times) i try and mak my friends swith and i'm pretty sure i sould get them set up
[07:51] <asdf25> SCanztz: either will probably work, though i've never used that automatic script
[07:51] <soundray> Shucknet: pine is not free software (as in free speech). Use elm, or (better) mutt
[07:52] <bronze> Shucknet: use mutt, its pine-like
[07:52] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: once you do it a couple times, you look like a pro..lol... been there done that
[07:52] <soundray> Shucknet: oops, no elm in edgy either
[07:52] <craigbass1976> pine is not elm...
[07:52] <sonsnix> soundray: if i take the file that is executable, and a copy, that's not executable, with exactly the same output of ls -l and the same checksum... that's confusing
[07:52] <Shucknet> soundray: yeah, I know - I've been using pine for so long - I'll look into mutt
[07:52] <bronze> Shucknet: IIRC there is even a Pine-keybinding macro set available for mutt
[07:52] <eRazo1> quit
[07:52] <bronze> "allo, please be tellink me what command is to restart SAMBA deamon? "
[07:52] <daharon> hey guys, I am wondering how I can force a newer version of the program to install through apt-get.  Specifically I'm looking for vim 7
[07:52] <Shucknet> bronze: now THAT would be perfect
[07:53] <bronze> Shucknet: check in #mutt
[07:53] <Shucknet> rog
[07:53] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: hey here is a quesiton for ya.  it say's i'm unregisterd (thats why i could not message you but when i go to registar with the message it says it's already registered. how do ilog on then?
[07:53] <soundray> sonsnix: what's your main purpose right now -- do you want to know everything about making files executable, or do you just want to run this one program?
[07:54] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: to log in, read that last line on Freenode....  If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[07:54] <kenthomson> subpixel font rendering in ubuntu?
[07:54] <soundray> kenthomson: what about it?
[07:54] <soundray> kenthomson: System-Preferences-Font
[07:55] <dyrne> Shrimpy: i msg'd shrimpy and told him to release his nick. he lol'd and said something very rude sorry
[07:55] <Shucknet> sweet - it appears that postfix figured out I'm using mbox somehow?
[07:55] <sonsnix> soundray: i'm distributing this file and for me and other people, it is not executable, only if the check that box. even after changing the permissions to 777, it's not executable by double-click
[07:56] <sonsnix> soundray: what i've just discovered, when i make the file executable via chmod, rename it, and rename it back again to the same name, it's executable
[07:56] <sonsnix> soundray: when i don't rename it, it's not executable, and this is reproducable
[07:56] <sebrock> why is all programs starting from in the upper left corner... just under the Ubuntu sign?
[07:56] <soundray> sonsnix: I think gnome checks the extension. If there is none, or if it's .sh, it will execute. If there is a different extension, it will try to load the creator even for an executable file. That's how I understand it at least
[07:57] <Shrimpy> dyrne: really? i was not aware of this. maybe someone else likes the name?
[07:57] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: did it log you in?
[07:57] <soundray> sonsnix: okay, that isn't in line with what I just said then...
[07:57] <sonsnix> soundray: ok, but it has no extension
[07:57] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: well i forgot my password
[07:57] <Shrimpy> :(
[07:57] <sonsnix> soundray: I'm renaming it, and renaming it back to the same name, then it works... seems like a major problem
[07:58] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: well, looks like someone may have the name alreday anywyas.
[07:58] <kenthomson> soundray, are you aware of the improved packages available for ubuntu font rendering? patched-libxft, etc? I found a forum post on it, but can't decide on whether to use "flavor-1" or "flavor-2". Do you have a certain repos in your sources.list specially used to update edgy fonts from a third party. Can you guide me to get better font rendering?
[07:58] <medic30420> i am trying to get vncserver to work with java, all the forums, as well as the man pages say that i need vnc-jave, but there is no installation candidate, i have all repos enabled, what do i do?
[07:58] <Shrimpy> That makes me sad someone has taken my name
[07:58] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: try something like Shrimpy_
[07:59] <soundray> kenthomson: I had badly rendered fonts on an upgraded system (dapper to edgy). I then did a fresh install from the usual sources (no font extras) and since then my font rendering leaves nothing to be desired.
[07:59] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak  (its not registared
[07:59] <kenthomson> Shrimpy, if this is really your nick got to #help, and ask any of the freenode staff to re-set the password for your nickname, it occurs almost instantly and you shall have your id back
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy_: so register it..lol
[08:00] <soundray> sonsnix: is it nautilus where you try to launch the file by doubleclicking?
[08:00] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: which name isn't registered?  With or W/O the _
[08:00] <kenthomson> soundray, this is a fresh install of u.6.10 but still i always keep asking for more so was looking for further tweaking my system.
[08:00] <nwonknu-> hey
[08:00] <Durtro> Hello
[08:00] <sonsnix> soundray: it's the desktop, i'll check nautilus
[08:00] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: the one w/o the _
[08:01] <soundray> sonsnix: nautilus is the default gnome file manager
[08:01] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy: if its not registered, then all you have to do is register it and its yours
[08:01] <kenthomson> IndyGunFreak, Shrimpy the nick "indygunfreak" has been registered 14 weeks ago
[08:01] <Shrimpy> IndyGunFreak: does caps matter on name
[08:01] <Shucknet> does anyone have a recommendation for a POP3/IMAP server?
[08:01] <Shucknet> Is dovecot ok?
[08:01] <kenthomson> Shrimpy, no
[08:01] <dballester> hi to all
[08:01] <kenthomson> !hi | dballester
[08:01] <ubotu> dballester: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:01] <Shrimpy> thanks kenthomson
[08:01] <IndyGunFreak> kenthomson: i know my name is registered, i registered it.lol
[08:01] <sonsnix> soundray: yes, it's nautilus
[08:01] <kenthomson> IndyGunFreak, remember this is a support channel
[08:01] <dballester> ack "hi!" kenthomson ubotu
[08:01] <upd> can i use in terminal calors like are in gentoo what i must to do?
[08:02] <kenthomson> dballester, getting creative with the bot?
[08:02] <IndyGunFreak> kenthomson: and i was support him trying to register his nick
[08:02] <sonsnix> soundray: ahm, it's the same in nautilus, as on the desktop
[08:02] <soundray> sonsnix: nautilus manages the desktop, too, is what I'm trying to say
[08:02] <dballester> kenthomson, no, now i know that it's a bot :)
[08:02] <kenthomson> dballester, ok
[08:03] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone use Thunar under Gnome?
[08:03] <sebrock> why is all programs starting from in the upper left corner... just under the Ubuntu sign? Is this the same for everybody??
[08:03] <nwonknu-> you tell me
[08:03] <Durtro> investigating
[08:03] <medic30420> hmm, any clues as to how i can get the vnc-java package, i can't find it in any repos, and it is a dependency of tightvnc
[08:03] <kenthomson> Shrimpy, "/msg nickserv register <nickname> <pass>"
[08:03] <ataq> you'd be better off with nautilus
[08:03] <jmedina> hi there
[08:03] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: i'm now Shirmpy_
[08:03] <jmedina> anyone knows where can I get the ntlm_auth binary?
[08:03] <soundray> sonsnix: is the file you're launching a script file? If it is, some of the nautilus preferences on the Behaviour tab will matter.
[08:03] <arose> I've made the unfortunate decision to try to install k3d, which turned out to have a broken package, now I can't get rid of it and get errors every time use apt...
[08:03] <jmedina> in other distributions it comes with samba
[08:04] <sonsnix> soundray: it's a binary executable
[08:04] <ardchoille> sebrock: That's the responsibility of your window manager (Metacity in gnome) and is normal, yes.
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy_: did you register it?
[08:04] <sonsnix> soundray: compiled with gcc
[08:04] <dballester> i'm in trouble. So far away i was able to compile modules making something like make SUBDIR=/path_to_source modules   Now i'm trying to compile ocfs2 for my ubuntu but may things changed from 2.4 kernels series. Any tip ?
[08:04] <soundray> arose: run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:04] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: yeah
[08:04] <sebrock> ardchoille, is there a way to get Metacity to save the last position?
[08:04] <soundray> sonsnix: it isn't that then...
[08:04] <sonsnix> soundray: hmm, strange, thanks for your help anyway
[08:04] <ardchoille> sebrock: I don't think so, but I don't use Metacity in gnome.
[08:05] <soundray> sonsnix: sorry I wasn't really of any help.
[08:05] <kenthomson> HELP; can metacity remember manually resized windows like gedit, next time one opens it?
[08:05] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: know any good sound card websites?
[08:05] <sonsnix> soundray: the will is that counts ;)
[08:05] <sebrock> ardchoille, ok tnx
[08:05] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy_: sorry.. my sound has always worked jsut fine, so its not something i've ever looked into.
[08:05] <benkillin> should I upgrade my kernel? it says a kernel update is available
[08:05] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy_: is it onboard sound, or an actual card?
[08:05] <arose> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7963/plain/
[08:05] <jmedina> ohh I found it
[08:05] <jmedina> is in winbind
[08:06] <kenthomson> !shout > kenthomson
[08:06] <ardchoille> sebrock: I use Openbox in gnome as my window manager.. much better then Metacity: http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/5049/ppuser/221672
[08:06] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: on board (its a laptop)
[08:06] <sebrock> thank you will have a look
[08:06] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy_: oh.. hmm,
[08:06] <IndyGunFreak> What model laptop?
[08:06] <soundray> arose: are you okay with editing files?
[08:06] <Shrimpy_> IndyGunFreak: (dell :( ) inspiron b130
[08:07] <pavs> what are the default fonts for ubuntu i just changed mine and i dont like it. I wanna go back.
[08:07] <arose> soundray, sure
[08:07] <MythGuyDK> helloes
[08:07] <sajt> Can anybody help me in a postfix/mysql/courier problem?
[08:07] <Sardukar> Hi there. I currently have 2x512MB CMS2 Matched Corsair ProX modules. If I add another 1GB module to the system, will it affect the "pro" performance of my ProX memory?
[08:07] <sajt> in private?
[08:08] <nf4> well you cant run dual channle that way
[08:08] <nf4> that is is the only differance
[08:08] <soundray> arose: the script that is failing is /var/lib/dpkg/info/k3d.postinst -- edit it with sudo and insert 'exit 0' as the second line. That will force a success, and you will then be able to 'sudo apt-get --purge remove k3d'
[08:09] <nf4> the point of getting a machted set is that you can run dual channel flawlessly
[08:09] <upd> it is posible install gentoo terminal on ubuntu?
[08:09] <pavs> what are the default fonts for ubuntu i just changed mine and i dont like it. I wanna go back.
[08:09] <chris__> hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone could let me know how to run giFT, i installed it through the synaptic package manager but it isn't listed anywhere in the Applications menu
[08:09] <toodles> pavs: Sans
[08:10] <slippyr4> !flash
[08:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:10] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:10] <soundray> Sardukar: yes. Always add modules symmetrically to both channels, otherwise your machine will fall back to single channel operation.
[08:10] <slippyr4> to install flash for firefox should i just do what firefox says? or is there an "ubuntu" way?
[08:10] <pavs> thanks :) is it for everything ie, application/document.desktop
[08:10] <benkillin> my current kernel verison is 2.6.17.10 I can upgrade to 2.6.17.11; should I? were there any security fixes?
[08:10] <pavs> thanks :) is it for everything ie, application/document/desktop
[08:11] <arose> soundray, pre-removal sript fails now :-/
[08:11] <soundray> !flashplugin-nonfree | slippyr4
[08:11] <ubotu> slippyr4: flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:11] <toodles> pavs: yes, the window title is also set to bold
[08:11] <craigbass1976> What's the command to find out how big the contents of a directory are?
[08:11] <arose> craigbass1976: du
[08:11] <soundray> arose: apply the same method to /var/lib/dpkg/info/k3d.prerm
[08:12] <toodles> pavs: Actually, there is an exception.
[08:12] <pavs> thanks toodles, though it seems a lil differant than i had before
[08:12] <arose> soundray: Thank you!
[08:12] <soundray> arose: working?
[08:13] <toodles> pavs: Some programs (or part of) use a fixed width fond. Ubuntu uses Monospace as default for these.
[08:13] <toodles> pavs: Have you set the font size to 10?
[08:13] <pavs> toodles i changed it to 10 in my bitchx the words are overlapping each other specially "m"
[08:14] <arose> soundray: It's not trowing errors at me after each install/removal, so I'd say "yes", learned another bit about the packageing system as well
[08:14] <craigbass1976> arose, I can't find the option like -h for ls.  Is there one?  Human readable I think it's called for ls.
[08:14] <soundray> arose: please note this is ugly hack territory
[08:14] <soundray> arose: this shouldn't be necessary ever, but k3d is apparently buggy
[08:14] <lonran> i have an ati card and want to install the ati driver but i have the mesa driver already installed, how can i remove the Mesa driver from the system?
[08:15] <chris__> hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone could let me know how to run giFT, i installed it through the synaptic package manager but it isn't listed anywhere in the Applications menu
[08:15] <toodles> pavs: So the fonts are overlapping even when you set them to Sans 10?
[08:15] <arose> craigbass1976: -h works with du
[08:15] <nf4> any one know what country a website is from if it is .com.cn
[08:15] <pavs> toodles yes
[08:15] <joost> Hi all
[08:15] <soundray> chris__: run 'dpkg -L gift' in terminal to get a package listing
[08:15] <arose> soundray: noted, will do until next release ;)
[08:16] <toodles> pavs: Hang on. Gonna check something.
[08:16] <pavs> actually its doing it with whatever font i choose, so far
[08:16] <joost> Is there a direct link between a slow bootup, and mounting a share from a remote server through smbfs in fstab?!
[08:16] <joost> i mean a very slow loading gnome dekstop
[08:16] <joost> This problem excists since edgy eft
[08:17] <reyn> Hi, I'm trying out compiz. Added an apt source to the list and run an update, getting: " Unable to find expected entry  stable/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[08:17] <soundray> joost: it's possible. Try commenting out the smbfs line in /etc/fstab
[08:17] <joost> ofcourse i did, i know its the case
[08:17] <Sardukar> soundray
[08:17] <Sardukar> thanks for the tip
[08:18] <Sardukar> But, do I need to match the timings etc. of the RAM currently in there? Or just add another matched pair
[08:18] <joost> i tried cifs instead, that kinda works half
[08:18] <toodles> pavs: Ah, I think I figured out the problem. bitchx uses gtk1 and not gtk2. As far as I know all programs that use gtk1 have this problem.
[08:18] <arkanjul> I know this is the wrong channel - but I am looking for some help with white screens on the desktop cube faces.  I have ATi drivers working, beryl loaded.. I can see the boerly top and bototm to the cube - but the front faces are white...
[08:18] <michi_needs_help> hello, i need some serious help!
[08:18] <michi_needs_help> hmm i seriously need help!
[08:18] <michi_needs_help> sounds better
[08:18] <toodles> pavs: I don't know if there's a solution to this, other than to ask the maintainers of bitchx to update and switch to useing gtk2.
[08:18] <dyrne> chris__: if you apropos gift   does it respond with a man page? you could also dpkg -L giFT maybe for a path to the executable
[08:19] <pavs> toodles, thanks. Though it wasnt happening before i changed it. maybe if i restart bitchx it should be ok.
[08:19] <michi_needs_help> somehow i messed up all available sessions i can choose from
[08:19] <toodles> pavs: Try it.
[08:19] <joost> is cifs a smbmount fork??
[08:19] <soundray> Sardukar: the closer you match the existing ones, the lower your risk of problems.
[08:19] <chris__> dyrne: when i try to load giftd from the terminal, it says the setup is incomplete
[08:19] <michi_needs_help> now i need to delete these sessions and reinstall a working standart session. all in terminal
[08:20] <toodles> pavs: Other than that, have a look if you can find anything on configuring setttings for gtk1. Sorry, I don't really know much about it.
[08:20] <michi_needs_help> but please! i need my pc now
[08:20] <craigbass1976> michi_needs_help, I don't understand I guess.  You messed up all the sessions?
[08:20] <craigbass1976> Explain that
[08:20] <michi_needs_help> ok
[08:20] <michi_needs_help> i tried to get beryl starting by default
[08:21] <michi_needs_help> added this and that..created an extra session and did weird stuff
[08:21] <michi_needs_help> now if i login: each session i choose give the spash screen (where usually 4 icons sit: nautilus, etc) with a lot of icons in it, and nothing happens
[08:22] <michi_needs_help> now i think i should delete all sessions, and create a standart session
[08:22] <soundray> Sardukar: having said that, as long as you keep within the timings that your motherboard requires, you wouldn't notice any slowness arising from differences between the modules
[08:22] <craigbass1976> michi_needs_help, I'm lost.  I have no idea how to create or delete sessions. I always thought that when you logged in, that was your session.
[08:23] <soundray> michi_needs_help: create a new user and work with that until you've sorted the sessions problem with the old one.
[08:23] <michi_needs_help> i think they are saved somewhere in a folder "xsessions"
[08:23] <craigbass1976> michi_needs_help, how does one create sessions?
[08:23] <michi_needs_help> add a text file there in the folder "xsession"
[08:23] <michi_needs_help> with some info in it
[08:24] <aavictor2> #Desu
[08:24] <ubuntu_> witam\
[08:24] <grogoreo> hi
[08:24] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:24] <pavs> toodles, its still the same i guess i will stick with purisa, the only one that doesnt overlap. thanks for your help
[08:24] <ubuntu_> polsh
[08:25] <toodles> pavs: What about using xchat-gnome for irc?
[08:25] <XSasukeX> hi guys yesterday my msn account worked flawlessly through gaim, today it just keeps connecting and won't get in (tried logging in and out didn't help) so I installed amsn to try if that worked however the same result. Anyone got an idea why this is?
[08:25] <ubuntu_> no
[08:25] <grogoreo> is there a command line tool that will convert a PNG file to a GIF, keeping the transparency layer and have roughly the same quality? GIMP shows horrible results, will imagemagik or something work?
[08:25] <mike__> okay so here's the deal... I have an older NCR monitor, can't seem to find the vert-refresh/horzsync for my monitor.  Under windows, the monitor will support pritty much every resolution imaginable.  Underlinux I cant seem to get anything better than 800x600, Is there a program i can run to Detect the correct Horzsynch and vertrefresh for Xwindows ?
[08:25] <pavs> toodles there is something about bitchx, i like it. :)
[08:26] <pavs> I sometimes use konversation too
[08:26] <toodles> toodles: :-) Well then that's as good a reason as any!
[08:26] <soundray> grogoreo: you are asking for the impossible, I think
[08:26] <PetFish> lo - I am running Edgy and latset nvidia drivers and when ever I try to play Unreal Tournament 2004 the game will crash at random times - maybe 3 mins into the game or an hour no specific time. Any Ideas why would be useful.
[08:26] <toodles> pavs: lol, that last message was directed at you
[08:26] <pavs> toodles gotcha ;)
[08:27] <roler> is this new fiesty fawn just kubuntu or is a new version of just normal ubuntu coming out too?
[08:27] <soundray> grogoreo: are you aware of the inherent limitations of the GIF format?
[08:27] <XSasukeX> hi guys yesterday my msn account worked flawlessly through gaim, today it just keeps connecting and won't get in (tried logging in and out didn't help) so I installed amsn to try if that worked however the same result. Anyone got an idea why this is?
[08:27] <toodles> roler: All versions usually get released at the same time.
[08:28] <grogoreo> soundray: yes, of course. But have a transparent graphic on a web site means I can't use PNG other than using hacks
[08:28] <roler> thanks
[08:28] <toodles> roler: no prob :-)
[08:28] <soundray> grogoreo: can you rephrase that? Why can't you use PNG?
[08:29] <bv> como posso por foto no gaim?
[08:29] <kelsin> grogoreo: just try image magick and see what happens: convert file.png file.gif
[08:29] <grogoreo> soundray: sorry, I meant to add because of Internet Explorer. The vast majority of visitors use IE on my site
[08:29] <Lynoure> !pt | bv
[08:29] <shatrat> XSasukeX, maybe the msn login server is hosed.
[08:29] <ubotu> bv: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:29] <grogoreo> thanks kelsin
[08:30] <Lynoure> bv: you can ask the same in English here if you wish.
[08:30] <PetFish> I am running Edgy and latset nvidia drivers and when ever I try to play Unreal Tournament 2004 the game will crash at random times - maybe 3 mins into the game or an hour no specific time. Any Ideas why would be useful.
[08:30] <soundray> grogoreo: has that PNG problem not been sorted in recent IE versions?
[08:30] <upd> wher has gnome-terminal conf?
[08:30] <XSasukeX> shatrat: you mean the msn servers are down?
[08:31] <grogoreo> soundray: I don't know, but not everyone has updated to IE7 or even seen the light and changed to something else
[08:31] <mrbrdo> hey.. anyone uses SMB4K? I have a problem when i try to connect a share that requires no authentication.. When there is a user\pass needed it works fine though
[08:31] <shatrat> XSasukeX, its possible, or overloaded such that requests time out.  I dont know, I dont use MSN
[08:32] <Slart> Is there one directory that holds all the background images in Ubuntu? or are there several? is anyone better than the other?
[08:32] <mrbrdo> Slart: /usr/share/wallpapers or something like that
[08:33] <mrbrdo> Slart: those are the wallpapers provided with ubuntu
[08:33] <soundray> grogoreo: if convert from imagemagick doesn't work for you, I suggest you do the color reduction, web indexing and transparency setting manually in gimp, and only then save the image as GIF. That way, you can prevent gimp from applying its defaults.
[08:33] <Slart> mrbrdo: /usr/share/backgrounds?  but those aren't all the backgrounds.. but I guess it'll have to do.. thanks
[08:33] <toodles> XSasukeX: Did you change any router or firewall settings? Sometimes these block the ports msn normally operates on. You can change that port to 80 though - that should fix it, if it's the problem.
[08:34] <pavs> toodles : I am a genius :) (kidding) fixed it, it was courier 10 pitch. never changing again.
[08:34] <mrbrdo> Slart: there are all the background provided with ubuntu..
[08:34] <toodles> pavs: Cool! Nice one :-)
[08:34] <grogoreo> soundray: I've just realised that a better idea, which I should have just thought of, is to just convert from SVG to GIF (I'm using Inkscape and they only allow you to export to bitmap in PNG) thanks for the idea
[08:34] <Slart> mrbrdo: if I add images to that folder will they show up as backgrounds?
[08:34] <mrbrdo> Slart: i know it's /usr/share/wallpapers on Kubuntu
[08:34] <mrbrdo> Slart: no! don't copy there.. you can browse for a wallpaper image - you can have it ANYWHERE you want
[08:35] <Slart> mrbrdo: but I have about 20 images I want to add.. do I have to add them manually?
[08:35] <JosefK> Slart: if you put them somewhere in your home directory, you can add them all at once by selecting using 'shift', 'ctl' et al
[08:35] <JosefK> Slart: like you would in Nautilus
[08:35] <mrbrdo> Slart: hum? You can only have one wallpaper displayed at a time
[08:35] <Slart> sweet.. thanks JosefK
[08:36] <Slart> mrbrdo: yes.. I know.. but I want to be able to select them from the gnome background application thingy..
[08:37] <mrbrdo> Slart: oh.. sorry i use KDE, i was thinking more generally
[08:37] <nf4> well in the gnome background thing you just click add wallpaper
[08:37] <mrbrdo> Slart: i'm glad you have it figured out :)
[08:37] <Slart> mrbrdo: no worries.. now I know how to do it in ubtuntu and Kubuntu both =)
[08:41] <mrbrdo> hey.. anyone uses SMB4K? I have a problem when i try to connect a share that requires no authentication.. When there is a user\pass needed it works fine though
[08:41] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight: I got it working. I just went to asla mixer and put line in all up and unmuted!
[08:41] <xtknight> MarcoCeppi: cool
[08:41] <MarcoCeppi> xtknight, thanks for your help
[08:41] <xtknight> yup
[08:42] <nf4> honey roasted peanuts are good
[08:42] <MarcoCeppi> man, it's been about 3 weeks without any sound on that tv
[08:42] <MarcoCeppi> well, thanks again for all your help.
[08:42] <Folf> uhm hi is this where i can get some ubuntu support?
[08:42] <nf4> opo
[08:43] <soundray> !ask
[08:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:44] <Folf> ok then well im running a athlon 64 x2 processor with a 7800 gt graphics card... there should be no problem loading or running the OS but uh well when it starts it starts with a thin bar  of crushed pixels or something i tried starting in safe graphics mode and regular but alas no luck any ideas?
[08:45] <fryfrog> Folf: use the nvidia binary drivers, make sure they are new?
[08:45] <Folf> well the problem is i cant get the OS to load i cant click anything to progress it its just the crushed box it seems
[08:45] <soundray> Folf: is this the desktop CD you are trying to boot? Or is it installed already?
[08:45] <Folf> desktop CD
[08:46] <soundray> Folf: you may have to download the alternate CD and install using the text-based installer, then get the binary drivers as fryfrog suggests.
[08:46] <Cloudy> Aliases are saved in bashrc, correct?
[08:46] <Folf> aww i was hoping to run it offof the cd to see if my campus network will allow it to connect
[08:47] <userund> Cloudy: usually
[08:47] <soundray> Cloudy: no, .bashrc in your home
[08:47] <nf4> any one know if there is a reson why ubuntu started using gnome screensaver insted of xscreensaver?
[08:47] <Cloudy> Ah, so would "sudo vim /home/.bashrc" allow me to write new aliases?
[08:48] <Jake333> Hey all
[08:48] <userund> nf4: because gnome took out xscreensaver if I recall
[08:48] <Jake333> I got a wuestion
[08:48] <soundray> Folf: you may be more lucky with a feisty desktop CD (although it's not yet recommended and all
[08:48] <soundray> )
[08:48] <Jake333> im trying to install nvidia driver and im so confused
[08:48] <toodles> Cloudy: You don't need to use sudo.
[08:48] <soundray> Cloudy: no, your home directory is /home/username/
[08:48] <Folf> do you think i woudl have more luck with the 64 version of ubuntu?
[08:48] <toodles> Cloudy: vim ~/.bashrc
[08:48] <Jake333> i have no clue what to do and i need like step by step help
[08:49] <Cloudy> Alright, thanks.
[08:49] <soundray> Folf: no, I don't think so
[08:49] <Folf> drat
[08:49] <soundray> Jake333: it's on the wiki
[08:49] <toodles> Cloudy: or if you prefer some graphical, gedit ~/.bashrc (or kast ~/.bashrc)
[08:49] <soundray> !nvidia | Jake333
[08:49] <ubotu> Jake333: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:49] <Jake333> i know
[08:49] <Jake333> and it didnt work
[08:49] <Jake333> i get confused
[08:49] <fotoflo> how do i chmod a directory?
[08:49] <Jake333> at the beginning
[08:50] <soundray> fotoflo: recursively? Use -R
[08:50] <userund> chmod [arguments]  dir
[08:50] <toodles> Cloudy: sorry, that last command ment to say (kate ~/.bashrc)
[08:50] <PriceChild> fotoflo, chmod ### path/to/dir
[08:50] <toodles> Cloudy: but that's kde
[08:50] <Bargo> Hey, how do i backup ubuntu os so i can reformat and not loss my settings and server configs?
[08:50] <Cloudy> toodles: I know what you meant. :) I prefer to use vim, though, just 'cause I'm used to using it in SuSE
[08:50] <PriceChild> fotoflo, if its got stuff in then a "-R" after the ### where ### is the number you're chmodding it too
[08:50] <PriceChild> fotoflo, You may want to read "man chmod" if you've got a bit of time to kill :)
[08:50] <userund> Bargo: back up everything in your /home/*username* directory
[08:51] <crdlb> Bargo, back up /home and /etc
[08:51] <fotoflo> hmm
[08:51] <fotoflo> still not getting a directory listing in apache
[08:51] <crdlb> Bargo, and /var/www if you have a webserver
[08:51] <Bargo> ok thanks
[08:51] <Folf> ok well im going to keep this place in mind when i get home i have a second build i need to run linux on ... but im already having problems with that.. its a athlon 64 processor ( again.. i love that thing) with an old pci vid card and using a sata for a main hard drive will i have any problems runnign the sata as a main hardrive?
[08:51] <toodles> Cloudy: cool cool. Me too.
[08:51] <Bargo> is that where mostly all of the server configs are stored in /etc/ ?
[08:51] <userund> Folf: shouldn't have any problems.  sata works fine under linux.
[08:51] <soundray> Folf: not with edgy (6.10)
[08:52] <Cloudy> toodles: Have you used OpenSuSE 10.2?
[08:52] <userund> Bargo: yes
[08:52] <Folf> uhm so what should i use with the sata?
[08:52] <exs> guys, how do I get my wacom tablet to work with ubuntu?
[08:52] <soundray> Folf: I mean, you won't have any problems
[08:52] <toodles> Cloudy: nope. I only tried suse 8 and it sorta frightened me away.
[08:52] <Jake333> nf4: can you se what im typin in pm?
[08:52] <ZLOTYPOSHIEE> Hi
[08:52] <nf4> nope
[08:52] <Jake333> oh
[08:52] <Jake333> dam
[08:52] <Jake333> wanne go to a empty server
[08:52] <factorx> which package do i need to mount AFP?
[08:52] <Folf> oh good imma hold oyu to your word though otherwise im stuck with a 10 year old laptop at home
[08:53] <ZLOTYPOSHIEE> ;] 
[08:53] <SlimG> I can't get my synaptics touchpad to work (feisty) on a PB EasyNote W3334 laptop, i've posted some details along with the xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/890800
[08:53] <Jake333> nf4
[08:53] <Cloudy> toodles: Heh, I've only used SuSE 9 enterprise server. 10.2 looks nice, though, not a huge fan of the menu however.
[08:53] <soundray> Folf: no, you aren't going to hold me to my word. There's all kinds of things that can go wrong apart from SATA
[08:54] <Folf> :P jeeze relax im just kidin
[08:54] <nf4> ok jake333 /join #nf4
[08:54] <soundray> Folf: people come here with all kinds of weird demands. Use a smiley next time ;)
[08:54] <toodles> Cloudy: We should probably continue this in private as it's going off topic :-P
[08:54] <Folf> lol ok ok sorry ^-^;
[08:55] <drarem> in terminal mode I type gedit test.txt, when I hit ctrl-C on the terminal it closes the gedit session - can I run a 'thread' or whatever it's called from a terminal?
[08:55] <Nutubuntu> Hello all - just installed a "new" video card and driver and I have "snow" all over the screen. How to configure?
[08:55] <bruenig> drarem, gedit test.txt &
[08:56] <soundray> Bye guys
[08:56] <Folf> well thats all i needed bye
[08:56] <drarem> thanks
[08:57] <Chipster1> salut
[08:57] <bruenig> !fr
[08:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:57] <Answer> drarem, Applications -> Accessories -> Text Editor opens up gedit
[08:57] <Chipster1> thx
[08:57] <ian__> hi.  i've installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop, when I try to install my WinXP driver for wireless with ndiswrapper, I get - "couldn't copy /ian/Temp/neti2220.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.".  how do i fix this?
[08:58] <Cloudy> Is there anyway to disable the mousepad-thingie on laptops in Ubuntu? The one on my laptop is uber-sensitive and if I just rub my palm over it trying to type the cursor goes wild.
[08:58] <DarkSpirit> Anyone know a website with a list of Linux programs I can use ? I am newbie just moving from XP and I need some Ubuntu versions of programs
[08:58] <drarem> yes but I compile from within the terminal - unless there is an editor I can add a 'compile' tool to it
[08:58] <Answer> ian__, are you doing something obscure that requires ndiswrapper?  I haven't needed it for anything wireless
[08:58] <bruenig> DarkSpirit, what kind of programs are you looking for, I am sure people in here can tell you
[08:58] <Answer> drarem, emacs is highly customizable like that.  u can integrate compiling and debugging
[08:58] <Answer> DarkSpirit, have you tried searching in Synaptics?
[08:58] <DarkSpirit> Okay
[08:59] <bruenig> synaptic not synaptics
[08:59] <fr500> are there any good small business server you recommend
[08:59] <fr500> with web interface, proxy, mail, antispam, etc with a easy to use interface?
[08:59] <drarem> k
[08:59] <ian__> Answer, no, i don't think so.  needed to install ndiswrapper with suse on my laptop too.
[08:59] <prueba> hola
[09:00] <bruenig> !es
[09:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:00] <SCanzt1> guys plees help me. I just finished installing Fuse and NTFS-3g and i still cant access my windows files and i also cant reboot into windows at all. even Wine cant find my windows dir
[09:00] <Answer> ian__, 6.06 should be able to do almost any normal wireless thing you want without ndiswrapper
[09:00] <Nutubuntu> Hello all - just installed a "new" video card and driver and I have "snow" all over the screen. How do I troubleshoot?
[09:00] <SCanzt1> i have had the worst linux experience so far
[09:00] <Answer> SCanzt1, is the partition still there?
[09:00] <SCanzt1> yes
[09:00] <SCanzt1> hda1
[09:00] <sebrock> why is all programs starting from in the upper left corner... just under the Ubuntu sign? Is this the same for everybody?? Sometimes its changed and sometimes it starts in the corner
[09:00] <gordonjcp> Nutubuntu: you already asked that, four minutes ago
[09:00] <SCanzt1> i can open the file
[09:01] <DarkSpirit> A program to wipe files. Write over them 7 random HEX data. Converting XviD to .VOBs so I can burn them as DVDs. Mass File Renamer. CD burning, PC alarm Clock, Newsgroup reader (binary as well) quicktime and real, file recovery, hard drive backup. Music player sort of like winamp. RAR opener
[09:01] <SCanzt1> but theres is nothing in it
[09:01] <Answer> SCanzt1, which one is your ubuntu partition and which one is your windows partition
[09:01] <gordonjcp> Nutubuntu: any chance you could tell us what kind of card you've got, maybe?
[09:01] <ian__> Answer, you mean my wireless card is supported in 6.06?
[09:01] <SCanzt1> hda1 - windows, hda4 - linux
[09:01] <DarkSpirit> and shockwave
[09:01] <Nutubuntu> t/y gordonjcp - it's an ATi 9600 Pro AIW, using the ATi driver
[09:02] <Answer> ian__, sure what kind is it?  I have never had to use ndiswrapper I think it's just a headache
[09:02] <DarkSpirit> and how to use my mouses 5 buttons
[09:02] <bruenig> DarkSpirit, for the first one look for the command called shred. For the second one, look for a program called devede. For the third one, you can use the terminal. CD burning look for k3b or gnomebaker. PC alarm clock - I used to use cron for this. Music player like winamp is xmms. Rar opener is unrar.
[09:02] <GionnyBoss> I want to install xubuntu alternate CD on an old computer. I don't want to loose Win 98 installed on it. There is only one FAT32 partition on that computer. How can I divide this partition in 2 beeing sure that data on it won't be lost?
[09:02] <Answer> SCanzt1, ok you need to mount the windows drive.  something like mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /windows
[09:02] <userund> DarkSpirit: there are several tutorials on getting the functionality.  what mouse do you have?
[09:02] <ian__> Answer, I've always had to use. my card is a cisco one... ipn2220 or something
[09:02] <n2ob> can someone help me here, i cannot connect to msn network with gaim, and messenger website says "All systems are stable and running" but "messenger upgrade required" due to "Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing initiative".. so is msn in gaim working for you?
[09:03] <Answer> ian__, is your card in now?  you should be able to see it with ifconfig -a
[09:03] <SCanzt1> only root can do that
[09:03] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, install aMSN ... if you compile it from source, you are sure you can get the latest version
[09:03] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, aMSN rocks!
[09:03] <ian__> Answer, not on my laptop now, but can check.  back in a min.
[09:04] <DarkSpirit> userund: very old mouse. it just says Optical Mouse at the bottom
[09:04] <dyrne> GionnyBoss: gparted livecd might be most reliable but ive never resized in linux before so i cant say how dependable it is
[09:04] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, i will if you can confirm that you can connect with it right now
[09:04] <DarkSpirit> aMSN is in Add/Remove Programs
[09:04] <dacks> Linux_Junkie, dude i totally didnt make it to class today
[09:04] <DarkSpirit> -Programs
[09:05] <SCanzt1> it says that only the root can do that
[09:05] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, can you? pls
[09:05] <Answer> SCanzt1, use sudo before the command
[09:05] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, I'm using aMSN now with no problem, audio and video too
[09:05] <GionnyBoss> dyrne, thanks
[09:05] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, since when did amsn do audio?
[09:05] <userund> DarkSpirit: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374&highlight=mouse+buttons or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316441&highlight=mouse+buttons
[09:06] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, i dont believe you
[09:06] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, if you compile it from source you get all this features... and if you install the last TCL you get anti-aliasing fonts too
[09:06] <SCanzt1> mount: mount point /windows does not exist
[09:06] <Answer> SCanzt1, mkdir /windows first
[09:06] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, really?
[09:06] <DarkSpirit> Will do thanks both of you
[09:06] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, yeah really
[09:06] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, ok you got me =)
[09:06] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, I was surprised too... I installed it just some days ago and it rocks ;)
[09:07] <gspr> Hey. If I build a kernel with dpkg-kpkg from the Ubuntu sources, how do I get things like firmwares included?
[09:07] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, problem is, you have to install last tcl and tk ... a friend of mine give me them .... tcl 8.5 , tcl 8.5 dev ... tk8.5 tk.85 dev
[09:07] <SCanzt1> dogpigeoncow@Glenn-Laptop:~$ mkdir windows
[09:07] <SCanzt1> dogpigeoncow@Glenn-Laptop:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /windows
[09:07] <SCanzt1> mount: mount point /windows does not exist
[09:07] <SYSDragon> um
[09:07] <SYSDragon> hola?
[09:08] <gspr> I see firmware files are in the linux-image package, but I need to modify a driver slightly, so I needed to build my own kernel
[09:08] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, they are not in default repos... you have to find the debian packages
[09:08] <Answer> SCanzt1, mkdir /windows
[09:08] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, ok np it will be worth it
[09:08] <felix_> !flash
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <gspr> and I did this through dpkg-kpkg
[09:08] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:08] <GionnyBoss> n2ob, yeah it sure will be worth it
[09:08] <SCanzt1> mkdir: cannot create directory `/windows': Permission denied
[09:08] <bruenig> SCanzt1, sudo mkdir windows
[09:08] <Daniwan> Any developers out there?  Got a question about linkind shared objects.  I am making a large modular program that I want to run mainly off of shared objects.  Problem is it is so large some of the so's depend on other so's..  I'm worried about redunancy.  Question is if I link the same so in say 3 other so's that are linked to the end app..  Will that actuall load 3 instances of the first so into memory?
[09:08] <Answer> SCanzt1, sudo mkdir /windows
[09:08] <dabide> is there a software/program i can use on ubuntu server 6.10 to check the system temperature? (as in bios, but while the system is running)
[09:09] <Answer> SCanzt1, you have to make a directory somewhere for the mount point
[09:09] <bruenig> I would put it in /media/windows
[09:09] <bruenig> but whatever
[09:09] <dyrne> dabide: acpi -V ? is that what you want?
[09:09] <SCanzt1> do mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /windows
[09:09] <Answer> yeah wherever
[09:09] <SCanzt1> sudo...
[09:09] <SCanzt1> after that i get the next line
[09:09] <SCanzt1> now wat
[09:09] <ian__> Answer, ifconfig -a shows an eth0, lo, and a sit0
[09:09] <felix_> Are there instructions somewhere for making Adobe's Flash plugin work on an Athlon64 with 64-bit-kernel?
[09:10] <Answer> ian__, does dmesg show your card?
[09:10] <sebrock> yes forun
[09:10] <sebrock> forums
[09:10] <dabide> dyrne: dont know, i'm very new to linux, i'll try
[09:10] <crdlb> dabide, look in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[09:10] <dabide> kk
[09:10] <SCanzt1> now what?
[09:10] <Answer> SCanzt1, now cd /windows and see if you can see your files
[09:11] <SCanzt1> bash: cd: /windows: Permission denied
[09:11] <Wanderer> !fiesty
[09:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <gspr> Hey. If I build a kernel with dpkg-kpkg from the Ubuntu sources, how do I get things like firmwares included? I see the linux-image packages have the firmwares included, but I have the need to change some module source before compilation, so I thought I'd build my own package. How do I include the firmware stuff that's included in the standard packages? I used make oldconfig.
[09:12] <dabide> crdlb: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is an empty folder on my system
[09:12] <Wanderer> can anyone help me figure out why I had sound in kubuntu i386 but not in amd64?  I've installed the alsa-drivers the same as in the i386
[09:13] <Wanderer> about to downgrade back to i386
[09:13] <SCanzt1> bash: cd: /windows: Permission denied
[09:13] <ian__> Answer, no.
[09:13] <Answer> SCanzt1, make a directory that you can access, and then mount your windows to it
[09:13] <compengi> !paste
[09:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:13] <ian__> Answer, (dmesg does not show my card)
[09:13] <Answer> ian__, ok then I guess you have a special card.  I have used cisco lmc352 and cb21ag without ndiswrapper
[09:13] <SCanzt1> how do i get permision to view file?
[09:14] <SCanzt1> it says im not the owner so i cant vie
[09:14] <SCanzt1> how do i make myself the owner
[09:14] <ian__> Answer, ok.  I have always had to use ndiswrapper.  so, why isn't it installing?
[09:14] <DarkSpirit> Cool SHRED works nicely :D
[09:14] <Nutubuntu> Hm ... has anyone here used aticonfig ? I'm trying to get rid of "snow" on my monitor. Card is new to me, but was said to be working (ATi 9600 Pro AIW).
[09:15] <Answer> !ndiswrapper | ian__
[09:15] <ubotu> ian__: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:15] <DarkSpirit> How many times does it write over the file ?
[09:15] <bruenig> DarkSpirit, I believe 5
[09:15] <bruenig> I know it is at least 3
[09:15] <Plecebo> my laptop freezes when i try to shut down or restart, the screeen scrambles and it plays a sound on a loop over and over.  What is a good way to troubleshoot that problem?
[09:15] <DarkSpirit> Also how can I put it in the RIGHT click Menu ?
[09:16] <bruenig> DarkSpirit, oh it says 25 in the documentation
[09:16] <MitchM> Plecebo, does it do this when you restart outside of X?
[09:16] <DarkSpirit> WTF 25 overkill
[09:16] <DarkSpirit> How can I set it to 7 ?
[09:16] <bruenig> DarkSpirit, if you do shred -n 7 file
[09:16] <SCanzt1> i type 'ls' and nothing happens
[09:16] <MitchM> Plecebo, "shutdown -r now" ?
[09:16] <DarkSpirit> Thanks :D
[09:17] <Plecebo> MitchM, not sure, i'm on the computer now, i can check one second. What command to shut down x?
[09:17] <ian__> Answer, it is not a cisco card, it is an INPROCOMM.
[09:17] <atomiku_> hi there, i got a serious problem. i just installed some restricted package... something like restricted-package-368-blah-11 and when I rebooted...
[09:17] <atomiku_> it said fatal error: no screens found
[09:17] <MitchM> Plecebo, restart your computer using "shutdown -r now" from the command line
[09:17] <atomiku_> im currently on the TTY1
[09:17] <atomiku_> how can I fix it
[09:17] <atomiku_> ?
[09:17] <Plecebo> MitchM, ok brb
[09:17] <Answer> ian__, sorry never heard of it
[09:18] <bruenig> atomiku_, you are sure it is 386?
[09:18] <ian__> Answer, ok. i will check out the docs. thanks.
[09:18] <bruenig> atomiku_, if so sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-386
[09:18] <DarkSpirit> About the WINDOWS LIST in the Taskbar been very long due to the Windows Name. How can I make it a certain size
[09:18] <dabide> i installed acpi with "apt-get install acpi", when i run "acpi -V" i get "No support for device type: battery/themal/ac_adapter" - is there sthg i can do to get the system temperatures, or seems my motherboard to be unsupported?
[09:18] <atomiku_> bruenig: i removed the package but
[09:18] <atomiku_> when I reboot, it just says it cant start the X server
[09:19] <atomiku_> when i check the logs, it says fatal error: no screens found
[09:19] <bruenig> atomiku_, that does not seem restricted modules fault
[09:19] <bruenig> seem to be*
[09:19] <atomiku_> and I believe before that it says something about no devices found
[09:19] <atomiku_> Perhaps its to do with my display drivers?
[09:19] <atomiku_> nvidia-glx
[09:19] <bruenig> atomiku_, just for kicks try, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:19] <bruenig> those are backticks by the way
[09:19] <atomiku_> hmmm
[09:19] <atomiku_> okay
[09:20] <atomiku_> uname-r command not found
[09:20] <atomiku_> nvm
[09:20] <atomiku_> i forgot a space
[09:20] <erUSUL> !enter
[09:20] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:21] <atomiku_> is there a way to see if I can start the X server through this TTY?
[09:21] <SCanzt1> i cant view my windows files even though i have moounted the partition
[09:21] <bruenig> atomiku_, startx
[09:21] <userund> atomiku_: startx
[09:21] <DarkSpirit> Is there any media Player sort of like Media PLayer Classic ?
[09:21] <atomiku_> thanks, lets see if it works
[09:21] <bruenig> atomiku_, you may need to reboot though after restricted modules
[09:21] <Plecebo> MitchM, that worked ok, the screen went black, then fadded to white... then after a few seconds i saw the ubuntu progress bar and the computer restarted
[09:21] <atomiku_> sudo startx ?
[09:21] <bruenig> atomiku_, no sudo
[09:21] <ajd17> If Apache is failing to start (/etc/init.d/apache2 start   comes back in less than a second with no error) what log file might help?
[09:21] <atomiku_> k
[09:21] <userund> DarkSpirit: vlc, mplayer, totem, there are tons of media players.
[09:21] <bruenig> !mediaplayers
[09:21] <MitchM> Plecebo, interesting. So when you shutdown from "X" it crashes...
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaplayers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <bruenig> !media
[09:21] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:21] <atomiku_> (EE) NO DEVICES FOUND
[09:22] <DarkSpirit> Do you mind pasting what you said to me again please about linux version of the prograns? I didnt save it and its goes since i restarted X-server
[09:22] <atomiku_> Fatal server error: no screens found
[09:22] <Alam_Ubuntu> DarkSpirit, mplayer
[09:22] <atomiku_> I think i messed up my config.
[09:22] <MitchM> Plecebo, I cannot help you further. Seems like it is now narrowed down to an X-desktop problem
[09:22] <jimcooncat> how do I troubleshoot a usb printer connection?
[09:22] <SCanzt1>  i cant view my windows files even though i have moounted the partition
[09:22] <atomiku_> i redid nvidia-xconfig, now im getting no devices detected.
[09:22] <lisapc> when I try to run LiveCD it stops at the message: "Probing/Loading AGP Modules.  Any way around this?  And what is AGP?
[09:22] <Plecebo> MitchM, yea i get this strange "scrambled" kind of looking screen, and it begins to play the shutdown sound, but then gets stuck in a loop
[09:23] <Plecebo> MitchM, hmm ok thanks for your help
[09:23] <MitchM> Plecebo, Look on launchpad.net for a similar problem perhaps?
[09:23] <MitchM> Plecebo, maybe its an easy fix :)
[09:23] <atomiku_> damn
[09:23] <atomiku_> what has happened :(
[09:23] <Plecebo> MitchM, ok thanks :)
[09:23] <GionnyBoss> I want to install Xubuntu on an old computer, preserving Windows 98 partition. How can I divide the only partition present to use the free space without loosing Win 98 data? Can anybody help me, please?
[09:23] <dyrne> dabide: if you cd /proc/acpi/thermal*/THRM    there is not info when you cat any of the files there? cat temperature for instance
[09:24] <lisapc> GionnyBoss xbutunu will doit
[09:24] <ajd17> /var/log/apache2/{access,error}.log are empty -- is there a better place I should be checking?
[09:24] <atomiku_> okay
[09:24] <SCanzt1> please help me:  i cant view my windows files even though i have moounted the partition
[09:24] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, and I can be sure that no data will be loss?
[09:24] <atomiku_> First of all.. what might be causing X not to start with the error: No devices detected then Fatal Server Error: No screens found?
[09:24] <atomiku_> All I did was install a few packages
[09:24] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, the partition is FAT32
[09:24] <gspr> which package contains the ipw2200 firmware files?
[09:25] <dabide> dyrne: -bash: cd: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM: No such file or directory  , i just right now installed acpi with apt-get install apci, do i need to configure it for my system=
[09:25] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, if I loose data, my girlfriend will probabily kill me
[09:25] <dyrne> SCanzt1: mount with like this: sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mountpoint    i think will work
[09:25] <nexous> How do I go about updating from edgy -> feisty?
[09:25] <tovella> GionnyBoss: if this old computer will boot from a CD, you should have no problems.
[09:25] <atomiku_> would sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop do anything?
[09:25] <lisapc> GionnyBoss u cANNOT be sure
[09:26] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, but usually there are no problems, right?
[09:26] <ajd17> So no one knows anything about Apache2 log files?
[09:26] <lisapc> GionnyBoss many times I did it, I lost my Windows and it became corrupt!  there are no guarantees
[09:26] <dyrne> dabide: well i dont normally recommend rebooting but.. dont know if that would help
[09:26] <`Matir> nexous, should just need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replace all "edgy" with "feisty", and do apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:26] <lisapc> GionnyBoss usually there are probs
[09:26] <lisapc> GionnyBoss backup first
[09:26] <Munksgaard> Hi guys! I could use a little help getting my newly set up ubuntu box working. Today i finally got my x server working, but it won't give me the right resolution :(. I am running on a 1440x900 laptop with ubuntu 6.06 and a ATI Radeon x700 mobility graphics card. When i get in to X, i get a 640x480 resolution.
[09:26] <SCanzt1> Remounting is not supported at present. You have to umount volume and then mount it once again.
[09:26] <lisapc> GionnyBoss its very risky
[09:27] <nexous> `Matir: okay, will it effect my wireless setup?
[09:27] <lisapc> GionnyBoss do it at your own risk
[09:27] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, oh thanks a lot!
[09:27] <dyrne> SCanzt1: sudo umount /mountpoint && mount -o umask=000 /dev/whatever /mountpoint
[09:27] <lisapc> GionnyBoss welcome to reality.  no fantasy stories here
[09:27] <tovella> nexous: there are so many new features in fiesty.  i think most people would be better off doing a backup, then doing a fresh install.
[09:27] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, I guess I will buy an old hard disk to put there .... and I will install Linux on the second hard drive
[09:27] <lisapc> GionnyBoss install it on a secoind HDD
[09:27] <`Matir> nexous, depends on your wireless setup, but i wouldn't think so
[09:27] <lisapc> GionnyBoss yep
[09:27] <`Matir> nexous, but keep in mind, it's still pre-release
[09:28] <atomiku_> First of all.. what might be causing X not to start with the error: No devices detected then Fatal Server Error: No screens found?
[09:28] <nexous> `Matir: I know.
[09:28] <lisapc> GionnyBoss and some times its not installed completely and corrupted my windows boot sectors
[09:28] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, I appreciate that... that's excatly what I wanted to hear :)
[09:28] <atomiku_> I think it might have been the beryl install script
[09:28] <atomiku_> it installed some weird drivers
[09:28] <AlexC_> Hi hi
[09:28] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, thanks for your help
[09:28] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey how can I reference a local file location in my sources.list ?
[09:28] <lisapc> GionnyBoss dont install it on same HDD unless u dont care if you lose windows
[09:28] <lisapc> GionnyBoss np
[09:28] <SCanzt1> Mount: only root can do this
[09:29] <lisapc> when I try to run LiveCD it stops at the message: "Probing/Loading AGP Modules.  Any way around this?  And what is AGP?
[09:29] <ajd17> AGP is a graphic card slot
[09:29] <^Ocean^> how do i get Ctrl+alt +/- to change my video resolutions
[09:29] <ajd17> Accelerated Graphic Port IIRC
[09:29] <GionnyBoss> lisapc, oh I see! So I will buy another HD ... I installed on the same HD on my Laptop, but there was a partition already done, so it was very easy. On this other case, I will buy a small HD :P thanks and bye!
[09:29] <^Ocean^> it used too, now it dont :(
[09:29] <AlexC_> ^Ocean^: really? mines never done that,
[09:30] <^Ocean^> now i gota goto System/ Setting/ Screen Resolutions
[09:30] <^Ocean^> i cant just change it on the fly
[09:30] <dyrne> SCanzt1: arg sorry just sudo umount  then sudo mount
[09:30] <GionnyBoss> now I go with problem n 2 ....
[09:30] <dyrne> SCanzt1: seperate commands
[09:30] <AlexC_> ^Ocean^: to be honest .... how often do you change you're res for that to be of a big problem?
[09:30] <ajd17> SCanzt1: are you having trouble mounting a file system?
[09:30] <crdlb> ^Ocean^, the resolutions need to be listed in xorg.conf in sequence
[09:30] <qsloqs> Hi, I have one CNET switch and its leds are green and yellow what does it mean? what means yellow leds?
[09:30] <^Ocean^> AlexC: one of my computers is starting in the wrong Resolution...
[09:30] <^Ocean^> crdlb, they all are...
[09:31] <qsloqs> I know that green leds its normal, but yellow?
[09:31] <AlexC_> qsloqs: that's not really a Ubuntu support question is it,
[09:31] <GionnyBoss> I have an Intel video card on my Laptop... I use i810 driver but 3d acceleration is very slow and if I run 'glxinfo | grep direct' I get : "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b" and "direct rendering: Yes" . 3D works, but it's very very slow. What can I do, please?
[09:31] <crdlb> ^Ocean^, if it is starting in the wrong one then just remove the other resolutions
[09:31] <detectiveinspekt> hi im using azureus-ubuntu in edgy and getting really bad torrent preformace
[09:31] <Toxix> hello, maybe somebody know how to install AC'97 audio drivers?
[09:31] <duckdown> Is there a character map like there is in Gnome for KDE?  I want to look at all the cool japanese writing, I remember specifically they have a 1-character smiley face
[09:31] <lisapc> ajd17 the liveCD picked up my graphics card. so why would it freeze at: "Probing/Loading AGP Modules ??
[09:32] <^Ocean^> crdlb:  I could do that... but i would rather have the ability to change resolutions from the key bored like i could before,  becuase there are other things i like todo were the quick change resolution is handy....
[09:32] <atomiku_> First of all.. what might be causing X not to start with the error: No devices detected then Fatal Server Error: No screens found?
[09:32] <tovella> Toxix: if your sound device is working properly, the drivers should be installed automatically.
[09:32] <drarem> is raid a hardware thing?  can I dedicate a separate harddrive as a raid device - like a mirror or backup of a production harddrive ?
[09:32] <atomiku_> I think it might have been the beryl install script
[09:32] <SCanzt1> dogpigeoncow@Glenn-Laptop:~$ sudo umount /media/windows
[09:32] <SCanzt1> umount: /media/windows: not mounted
[09:32] <SCanzt1> dogpigeoncow@Glenn-Laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[09:32] <SCanzt1> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[09:32] <SCanzt1> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /windows
[09:32] <teeL> Hi. I have installed LAMP and phpsysinfo via synaptic. The webserver is working, but i have no idea where phpsysinfo is :S
[09:33] <drarem> or do you have to have an actual raid device, whatever that is?
[09:33] <AlexC_> !paste | SCanzt1
[09:33] <ubotu> SCanzt1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:33] <^Ocean^> dra_, You can use Software raid
[09:33] <atomiku_> brb
[09:33] <SCanzt1> sorry
[09:33] <drarem> k
[09:33] <SCanzt1> but that doesnt make any sence
[09:33] <^Ocean^> drarem, u can use software rade, but its a lil more CPU intensive...
[09:33] <SCanzt1> OMG
[09:33] <crdlb> ^Ocean^, have you set the proper default in gnome-display-properties ?
[09:33] <SCanzt1> this is horrible, never mind not being able to retrieve my files, i cant even log onto windows
[09:34] <detectiveinspekt> does ubuntu have some sort of SYN protection automaticly turn on?
[09:34] <D7> my network-manager applet says no devices found, this is an ibook g4, wireless works, but network manager does nothing, any ideas?
[09:34] <^Ocean^> crdlb, I cant see how that has anything todo with the  ctrl+alt +/- funtion changing screen resolutions....
[09:35] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: what are you trying to do?
[09:35] <^Ocean^> the Gnome-display-properties works just fine, change resolutions at will and etc...  the issue is, i have lost the ctrl+alt +/- key bored short cut
[09:35] <kelsin> D7: any interface you want network-manager to manage has to not be in /etc/network/interfaces so that the system doesn't manager it first
[09:35] <crdlb> ^Ocean^, I don't think keyboard resolution switching is supported by recent versions of X
[09:35] <crdlb> but I could be wrong of course
[09:35] <SCanzt1> alex: 2 things
[09:35] <AlexC_> AlexC_ not Alex
[09:35] <^Ocean^> crdlb, Last i herd,   it was something you could re-enable...
[09:35] <SCanzt1> a) reboot to windows which i cant do
[09:36] <SCanzt1> b) access any windows files
[09:36] <SCanzt1> which i cannot do at all
[09:36] <SCanzt1> after lots of mounting, unmounting
[09:36] <SCanzt1> and playing with ntfs-3g
[09:36] <AlexC_> !enter | SCanzt1
[09:36] <ubotu> SCanzt1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:36] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: in terminal do "mount"
[09:36] <tovella> SCanzt1: is your drive going bad, maybe?
[09:36] <SCanzt1> sorry again
[09:37] <crdlb> ^Ocean^, you could use the xrandr command
[09:37] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: pastebin the output of mount for me
[09:37] <^Ocean^> ??
[09:37] <dyrne> SCanzt1: sudo umount /windows then sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[09:37] <dyrne> SCanzt1: youve got 2 windows dirs one at /  and one at /media
[09:37] <D7> kelsin: so I should comment out the lines for eth1?
[09:37] <SCanzt1> is that bad
[09:38] <SCanzt1> ok brb alexc
[09:38] <dyrne> SCanzt1: no not bad
[09:38] <SCanzt1> !pastebin
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <kelsin> D7: yep, comment out the lines for the interfaces that you want to manage
[09:38] <n2ob> GionnyBoss, installed the latest amsn snapshot it looks amazing! thanks man
[09:38] <unimatrix9> any one got an hp s7730 running ubuntu?
[09:38] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:38] <kelsin> D7: manage *with network manager
[09:38] <AlexC_> !anyone | unimatrix9
[09:38] <hyapadi> hi, does anybody know how to update the azureuz installed by automatix? automatix has released the new azureus, but i don't think it will automatically update the az in my system
[09:38] <ubotu> unimatrix9: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:38] <Moniker42> hey, how do i get my widescreen monitor working in portrait mode?
[09:39] <SCanzt1> alexC http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7982/
[09:39] <AlexC_> Moniker42: if you know ... let me know! The option for me is grayed out in System->Prefs->Resolution ... is it the same for you?
[09:39] <Moniker42> AlexC_, yea it is!
[09:39] <AlexC_> Moniker42: hum ...
[09:39] <crdlb> ^Ocean^, as in binding "xrandr -o X" (where x is one of the resolution ids, run xrandr for a list) to a keyboard shortcut
[09:40] <lisapc> can my video card still function if agp is disabled?
[09:40] <Moniker42> AlexC_, i hadn't noticed it was there at all actually :)
[09:40] <unimatrix9> !ubotu anyone? have an hp s7730 by change?
[09:40] <AlexC_> lisapc: if it's an AGP card .. then no it wont work
[09:40] <AlexC_> unimatrix9: Ubotu is a bot .. not a human hehe
[09:41] <dyrne> hyapadi: solution might be to uninstall azureus package and use the one you get if you just sudo apt-get install azureus i dont know where automatix gets azureus
[09:41] <lisapc> AlexC_ when I try to run LiveCD it stops at the message: "Probing/Loading AGP Modules.  Any way around this?
[09:41] <SlimG> Can't get sound on my PB EasyNote W3334 laptop (Realtek ALC880), anyone know how to fix it?
[09:41] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: so what if you do "sudo ls /windows
[09:41] <tovella> lisapc: perhaps the CD you have is messed up?
[09:41] <SCanzt1> sudo ls /media/windows
[09:41] <SCanzt1> nothing
[09:42] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: that's not what I said.
[09:42] <lisapc> tovella it works on another system
[09:42] <Moniker42> AlexC_, what's your video card? mines is a geforce 6800
[09:42] <SCanzt1> yes i know but that drive is mounted
[09:42] <AlexC_> Moniker42: ATI X800XT
[09:42] <SCanzt1> ok fine
[09:42] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: no it's not. /dev/hda1 on /windows type ntfs (rw)
[09:42] <D7> kelsin: thanks, I should probably comment out the wired connection to and manage it with this...
[09:42] <tovella> lisapc: that other system may use a different AGP driver/module.
[09:42] <SCanzt1> i changed it though
[09:42] <SCanzt1> and still nothing anywa
[09:43] <kelsin> D7: yes, on my desktop and laptop I have network manager manager everything but the lo interface. When I plug it it disconnects the wireless and vice-versa
[09:43] <tovella> lisapc: when you boot from your CD, there should be an option to test the media (CD).
[09:43] <area64> When I installed Ubuntu I must have messed up the partitioning, because I have to manually change my volume number in /boot/grub/menu.lst each time something generates the file.  How can I fix this?
[09:43] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: it's gonna get confusing if you're changing directories and stuff around when I'm trying to help with old info you give :P
[09:43] <abubakir> hi
[09:43] <SCanzt1> yes i know
[09:44] <abubakir> hi
[09:44] <SCanzt1> soz, that other guy gave me some instruction as i sent u that thing
[09:44] <SCanzt1> it will stay this way now
[09:44] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: you have WindowsXP installed yeah?
[09:44] <lisapc> can my Nvidia card still function of I load linux without agp?
[09:44] <SCanzt1> its at  /media/windows
[09:44] <lisapc> tovella I told yuou already! it works on another system
[09:44] <AlexC_> lisapc: I just said, if it's an AGP card then no it wont.
[09:44] <pavs_away_eating> anyone installed OSX with ubuntu on a AMD64 system? Is it possible?
[09:44] <DarkSpirit> How to I make a Shortcut to "/" and Trash on the Desktop ?
[09:44] <abubakir> i have a question
[09:44] <SCanzt1> ya, supposedly, but not indication at all!
[09:44] <apokryphos> !question
[09:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:45] <lisapc> AlexC_ will it damage my video card if I try to load witg that switch of noagp?
[09:45] <tovella> lisapc: again, that other system may use a different AGP driver/module.
[09:45] <abubakir> i have problems with my wine
[09:45] <AlexC_> lisapc: nope,
[09:45] <acemics> i have problems with my wine too ;-)
[09:45] <SCanzt1> it almost seems as if windows doesnt exist
[09:46] <crdlb> DarkSpirit, you need to run gconf-editor and navigate to /apps/nautilus/desktop and set trash_visible
[09:46] <SCanzt1> but it couldnt have been uninstalled coz i partitioned space for it
[09:46] <eagles0513875> same here wine i somehow broke it even after a fresh install
[09:46] <pavs> i got red wine, it emulates my feelings really good
[09:46] <AlexC_> Oh! problems ... ok, well to fix the problem you need to tell us the problem first!
[09:46] <abubakir> when i start Half-Life 2 Deathmeatch it goes down
[09:46] <eagles0513875> lol i double click on the install.exe it doesnt load anything
[09:46] <crdlb> DarkSpirit, and for /  just drag Filesystem from Computer
[09:46] <whatspy> hey guys, just a little "ls" thing: is it possible to display directories first ?
[09:46] <lisapc> tovella so its a waste of time to check the media then as you suggest
[09:46] <Moniker42> eagles0513875, .exes are for windows
[09:46] <unimatrix9> i run sol.exe with great succes on wine..!
[09:46] <gradin> eagles0513875: install.exe sounds like a windows executable
[09:47] <dabide> dyrne: i still get "acpi -V" : "No support for device type: battery/themal/ac_adapter" , and the thermal_zone dir is empty
[09:47] <gradin> anybody know how to resume a tty1 session?
[09:47] <eagles0513875> i was able to get the exe to work with wine before i broke my linux os completely
[09:47] <dyrne> unimatrix9: make a wiki article for sol.exe
[09:47] <unimatrix9> great idea!
[09:47] <unimatrix9> LOL
[09:47] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: are you _sure_ /dev/hda1 is where you're windows partition is?
[09:48] <tovella> lisapc: not a waist of time.  i have 7 machines, all of which use different video drivers.  the CD worked on 6 of them, but a single file required by the 7th machine was corrupted on the CD.
[09:48] <SCanzt1> AlexC_: i will check again
[09:48] <Tibmol> how can i add my tv card to kdetv video list ?
[09:48] <tovella> lisapc: burned a new CD, and it worked fine.
[09:49] <pavs> anyone installed OSX with ubuntu on a AMD64 system? Is it possible?
[09:49] <Tibmol> !kdetv
[09:49] <ubotu> kdetv: TV viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-1 (edgy), package size 1356 kB, installed size 5336 kB
[09:49] <lisapc> tovella ok intresting. thanks
[09:49] <lisapc> brb
[09:49] <SCanzt1> AlexC_: hda1 = ntfs but it says that only5gb has been used out of 40gb - there is no way i formated it
[09:49] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: then something is badly wrong :P
[09:50] <skywalker> the link to wine tools isent working is the server up?
[09:50] <SCanzt1> wats worse
[09:50] <Tibmol> how can i add my tv card to kdetv video list ?
[09:50] <DarkSpirit> crdlb>Thanks that place has more settings that I can use :D
[09:50] <SCanzt1> is that system, administration, disks doesnt work
[09:50] <AlexC_> !repeat | Tibmol
[09:50] <ubotu> Tibmol: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:50] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: "doesn't work" ...
[09:51] <SCanzt1> it opens but it reports some script error and exits
[09:51] <dyrne> tim__b: you might get a better answer in /join kubuntu
[09:51] <AlexC_> ahh, some script error .... I see. I'm not psysic :P
[09:51] <SCanzt1> so wat do i do
[09:51] <SCanzt1> if i reinstall windows, would it be installed with all my old files?
[09:52] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: nope.
[09:52] <DrNic1> SCanzt1: probably not
[09:52] <SCanzt1> AlexC_: is there any possible thing i can do? wat about remote desktop
[09:52] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: it sounds like you're hard drive is messed up,
[09:52] <unimatrix9> SCanzt1 dont you have an live boot cd of some sort?
[09:52] <SCanzt1> i fell sick
[09:52] <SCanzt1> feel*
[09:52] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: you can't remote desktop into an operating system that isn't loaded.
[09:52] <SCanzt1> no, but for sum1 to type the commands and stuff
[09:53] <SCanzt1> i have a live boot cd but it only offers to reinstall windows
[09:53] <AlexC_> that's just lazy getting us to do the work!
[09:53] <dyrne> SCanzt1: your free of MS. rejoice! :)
[09:53] <AlexC_> haha
[09:53] <SCanzt1> im free of my documents and my precious photos
[09:54] <unimatrix9> SCanzt1 : have you got an knoppix cd by any change?
[09:54] <SCanzt1> wat is that
[09:54] <unimatrix9> hmm, guess not , whats the cdrom you have got you can boot?
[09:54] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: download a gParted Live CD ?
[09:54] <DrNic1> you could always boot from a DOS disk and use debug :p
[09:54] <SCanzt1> i have Ubuntu live
[09:54] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: use that then
[09:55] <unimatrix9> AlexC , he would like to rescue his data
[09:55] <DarkSpirit> How can I set the default icon size in the desktop ?
[09:55] <AlexC_> unimatrix9: I know,
[09:55] <SCanzt1> how would i use the ubu live cd?
[09:55] <AlexC_> put it in CD drive, let iet it boot up
[09:55] <AlexC_> s/iet/it
[09:55] <DrNic1> DarkSpirit: its under nautilus settings.  Edit > prefs > default size
[09:55] <unimatrix9> SCanzt1 : wait a bit, have you got ubuntu running right now?
[09:56] <SCanzt1> yes
[09:56] <SCanzt1> im using it now
[09:56] <SCanzt1> not the cd though
[09:56] <unimatrix9> okey do an apt get install qtparted...
[09:56] <AlexC_> DrNic1: I don't know what Gnome you use but I have no Prefs->Default Size :P
[09:56] <DarkSpirit> I dont see it
[09:57] <SCanzt1> wow
[09:57] <SCanzt1> 70mb?
[09:57] <DrNic1> AlexC_: well, default zoom level then ;)
[09:57] <AlexC_> DrNic1: no, sorry my mistake - thought you meant System->Prefs
[09:57] <crdlb> DrNic1, but that affects all folders in icon view
[09:57] <AlexC_> unimatrix9: QTparted?!
[09:57] <DrNic1> I know what I meant :)
[09:57] <unimatrix9> yes
[09:57] <AlexC_> unimatrix9: he's runing Gnome. so you want gParted !
[09:57] <SCanzt1> unimatrix9: QTparted?!
[09:58] <DrNic1> crdlb: yeah, well thats kinna the way to do it
[09:58] <AlexC_> qt = kde, unimatrix9
[09:58] <SCanzt1> i have gparted
[09:58] <dorbeck> Linux can't handle NTFS partitions properly
[09:58] <IcEpiCk> hello
[09:58] <AlexC_> hi,
[09:58] <IcEpiCk> Why when i try to install ubuntu it says something like I/O Error logical disk
[09:58] <SCanzt1> qt or g????
[09:58] <AlexC_> gParted, SCanzt1
[09:59] <AlexC_> qtparted is the KDE version, afaik
[09:59] <DrNic1> IcEpiCk: doesn't sound very promising, your disk might be about to die.  you tried a diff cable?
[09:59] <SCanzt1> i have gparted
[09:59] <SCanzt1> wat did u want me to do with it?
[09:59] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 yep but same problem
[10:00] <Dj_ToNy> hi
[10:00] <Dj_ToNy> This is kernel package version 10.049ubuntu5.
[10:00] <DrNic1> IcEpiCk: i'd say the disk is on the way out then. it work with a diff OS?
[10:00] <SCanzt1> unimatric: wat did u want me to do with it?
[10:00] <lisapc> when installing ubuntu anf gnome and KDE.  should i make swap partition 1 gig or 2 gig?  I have 1 Gig RAM
[10:00] <Dj_ToNy>  Modules not configured, so not making modules_image
[10:00] <atomiku_> When ubuntu boots up, an error comes up saying X couldnt start... No device detected. Fatal Server Error: No screens found. how can I fix this?
[10:00] <Dj_ToNy> what's problems?
[10:00] <AlexC_> lisapc: 1gb
[10:00] <atomiku_> im stuck on the TTY at the moment
[10:01] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 yap it works to install windows on it
[10:01] <AlexC_> atomiku_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:01] <flake> I did a /configure and make install, how do I remove it?
[10:01] <enix> i currently run dapper, everything works fine execpt the length of my battery, it drains in about an hour, twice as quick as with XP. I want to upgrade to 6.10 in hopes to solve this problem. my question is is it better to do a fresh install or just upgrade through the term?
[10:01] <gradin> i'm going nuts here, anybody know how to switch to tty1 from a remote ssh tunnel?
[10:01] <dorbeck> SCantz1: if I were you, I wouldn't do anything, Linux can't handle NTFS partitions properly.
[10:01] <unimatrix9> take an look at your disk ( dont edit though )\
[10:01] <lisapc> AlexC_ 1 gig is definately enough?
[10:01] <AlexC_> dorbeck: yes it can, it can read and write.
[10:01] <gradin> i've got server output being routed to a term i forgot to screen
[10:01] <flake> do i have to rollback to a previous version
[10:01] <gradin> and i can't stop the service thats running...
[10:01] <dorbeck> i've only managed read-only
[10:01] <DrNic1> gradin: ctrl + z should do it :p
[10:01] <AlexC_> lisapc: it's usualy twice your ram, but 1gb is really enough to not have doubled swap space
[10:01] <TSWoodV> dorbeck: Says who?  gparted works pretty well on all cases I've dealt with.
[10:02] <AlexC_> dorbeck: you can now write to ntfs
[10:02] <gradin> DrNic1: i'm rmemote...
[10:02] <lisapc> AlexC_ can I make a gig part for ubuntu using my partiton maker and then tell ubuntu at install time to use that particular partition?
[10:02] <SCanzt1> :'(
[10:02] <gradin> *remote
[10:02] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 yap it works to install windows on it
[10:02] <dorbeck> Well, I hope so for SCantz1
[10:02] <gilligan_> hm.. i8k.ko is not in the kernel in edgy/amd64 ?
[10:02] <crdlb> lisapc, yes
[10:02] <AlexC_> lisapc: yep,
[10:02] <DrNic1> IcEpiCk: well, i'd just ignore the message then ;)
[10:02] <crdlb> although you might as well make it blank space
[10:02] <gradin> DrNic1: unless i can remotely ctrl+z it from another tty?
[10:03] <SCanzt1> "waaaaaaaaaaah"
[10:03] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 if i could... u cant skip it :P
[10:03] <atomiku_> AlexC_: I just did that, didnt know what to put in for all the things it was requesting, but im still getting the same errors
[10:03] <flake> how can I remove something after a ./configure and a make install?
[10:03] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 it just comes and comes and COMES
[10:03] <atomiku_> I think it was the beryl setup script I did
[10:03] <atomiku_> it must have screwed things up
[10:03] <lisapc> ok thanks
[10:03] <DrNic1> :/
[10:03] <SCanzt1> gaan fok 'n perd
[10:03] <atomiku_> (EE) No Devices Detected.
[10:03] <atomiku_> Fatal Server Error: no screens found
[10:03] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 should i try to install amd64 version? cause i got amd64 processor?
[10:03] <DrNic1> you using some odd kind of disk controller?
[10:03] <aguedes> the cscreen?
[10:03] <linxeh> IcemanCZ: how much ram do you have?
[10:04] <dorbeck> i know how you feel, SCantz1
[10:04] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 cause i installed now the normal version
[10:04] <SCanzt1> so u understand afrikaans?
[10:04] <DrNic1> IcEpiCk: you tried the alternate install CD?
[10:04] <dorbeck> i'm dutch
[10:04] <SCanzt1> :)
[10:04] <atomiku_> AlexC_: Any other suggestions?
[10:04] <IcEpiCk> DrNic1 not yet but iam downloading the amd64 version
[10:04] <atomiku_> im re
[10:04] <atomiku_> disregard "im re" lol
[10:04] <DrNic1> give that a go and see what happens :)
[10:04] <SCanzt1> omg
[10:04] <linxeh> IcEpiCk: you only need the 64bit version if you have lots of RAM (ie >2GB), or you want a lot of pain
[10:05] <linxeh> IcEpiCk: most of the commercial software is not available for amd64, nor many commercial binary drivers
[10:05] <SCanzt1> *dying words* what *choke choke* do i do now? *choke*
[10:05] <atomiku_> damn
[10:05] <atomiku_> what has happened to poor x
[10:05] <IcEpiCk> linxeh yep.. but i dunno whats wrong I/O error logical disk and i just got 1gb ram
[10:05] <atomiku_> stupid beryl nvidia install script
[10:05] <linxeh> IcEpiCk: I have an AMD64 box at home, and run 32bit on it
[10:06] <atomiku_> why did i have to install it
[10:06] <AlexC_> atomiku_: why does anything ever happen =)
[10:06] <linxeh> IcEpiCk: probably you have a SATA disk and the controller isnt supported or something
[10:06] <atomiku_> AlexC_:
[10:06] <atomiku_> There must be a way
[10:06] <IcEpiCk> linxeh IDE
[10:06] <AlexC_> of course there is, atomiku_
[10:06] <atomiku_> But how :O
[10:06] <AlexC_> that's the hard part
[10:06] <atomiku_> I just wanna see my desktop again :'( lol
[10:06] <atomiku_> I think what ive done is: totally screwed it all up
[10:06] <AlexC_> atomiku_: get another PC, find a nice screenshot, print it out - stick it over you're monitor?
[10:07] <atomiku_> Wait
[10:07] <atomiku_> Correction:
[10:07] <atomiku_> I think what the beryl setup script has done is: totally screwed it all up
[10:07] <tovella> lisapc: I don't think a gig will be enough.
[10:07] <dorbeck> SCantz1, despair?
[10:07] <IcEpiCk> well LAST TRY
[10:07] <atomiku_> I think im just gonna save myself alot of trouble and reinstall ubuntu.
[10:07] <sycho> I'm trying to install cdemu and I keep getting the error "make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop." during make. any ideas how to work around this?
[10:07] <atomiku_> ill keep my old ubuntu partition so I can move all the files over
[10:07] <linxeh> sycho: fix the makefile
[10:07] <atomiku_> Well, wish me luck :<
[10:07] <AlexC_> atomiku_: you can still save files if you need them onto a usb drive or something
[10:07] <atomiku_> THanks for the help, AlexC_
[10:07] <SCanzt1> ja! ek dink ek sal 'n jong meisie moer
[10:08] <AlexC_> SCanzt1: english please,
[10:08] <atomiku_> see you when I reinstall ubuntu
[10:08] <sycho> linxeh, what would I change?
[10:08] <atomiku_> ;_;/
[10:08] <AlexC_> atomiku_: ok, good luck
[10:08] <linxeh> sycho: no idea :))
[10:08] <tovella> lisapc: according to there website: To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space...
[10:08] <dorbeck> Kalm blijven SCantz1
[10:08] <funpop> i got a annoying problem and im not able to fix it myself. i made a thread, but its maybe not in the right forum, and i guess it will not fetch a lot attention..:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=372719
[10:08] <nexous> Hi, how do I go about reinstalling firefox from terminal?
[10:08] <unimatrix9> SCanzt1 : do you see the private?
[10:08] <SCanzt1> ;D
[10:09] <SCanzt1> yes
[10:09] <SCanzt1> im waiting for ur respone
[10:09] <linxeh> nexous: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[10:09] <tovella> lisapc: if standard ubuntu, i think it's gonna need around 2.1GB
[10:09] <unimatrix9> hmm , open terminal and type mount
[10:09] <nexous> k
[10:09] <spuddogg_> I've been meaning to ask...Why does Dapper get support for 3 years, and Edgy only 18 months?  Is Dapper a "more official" release or something?
[10:09] <unimatrix9> see whats mounted..
[10:09] <SCanzt1> i did all taht
[10:09] <linxeh> SpudDogg: it is labelled for long time support
[10:09] <SCanzt1> u tolk me to in the prvate
[10:10] <linxeh> SpudDogg: it is unfeasable to support every release for a long period of time, so certain releases will be labelled "LTS"
[10:10] <unimatrix9> and?
[10:10] <lisapc> tovella i have 100 gig free space
[10:10] <nexous> linxeh: mozilla-firefox isnt the package name.
[10:10] <unimatrix9> whats does it say as in dev/hda...etc
[10:10] <linxeh> !lts | spuddogg_
[10:10] <ubotu> spuddogg_: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:10] <linxeh> heh
[10:10] <linxeh> nexous: hmm sec
[10:10] <SCanzt1> check the private...
[10:11] <spuddogg_> linxeh: so they just pick and choose which ones get it...i understand
[10:11] <lisapc> tovella you saying that 1 gig RAM is nt enough to install and run Ubuntu?
[10:11] <SCanzt1> ok wateva
[10:11] <SCanzt1> it says i have cancer
[10:11] <tovella> lisapc: ...in response to:  can i make a gig part...
[10:11] <SCanzt1> on my cpu
[10:11] <rolnxyz> Does anybody know about a multimedia center solution, like MythTV, but just for music and movies? No cable TV stuff. I would like to see my divx movies on tv, and listen to music, all this with somekind of frontend like MyTV's.
[10:11] <linxeh> nexous: its firefox sorry
[10:11] <nexous> linxeh: okay thanks.
[10:11] <lisapc> tovella do you take drugs dude?
[10:11] <crdlb> rolnxyz, elisa
[10:11] <rolnxyz> thanks crdlb
[10:11] <gradin> Reading state information... Done
[10:11] <linxeh> spuddogg_: I guess it is whichever ones have the most likely chance of being stable for longest period etc
[10:11] <gradin> E: Couldn't find package cancer
[10:11] <lisapc> tovella dont u read anything properly?  i said 1 gig swap partition
[10:11] <SCanzt1> doesnt say anything aobut dev/hda1
[10:11] <Shaniac> lol
[10:12] <unimatrix9> sda?
[10:12] <Shaniac> chea 1 gig swap here.
[10:12] <spuddogg_> lisapc: patience is a virtue...we were all noobs once
[10:12] <linxeh> 140GB swap :)
[10:12] <SCanzt1> dont see sda
[10:12] <lisapc> SpudDogg im still onw
[10:12] <unimatrix9> SCanzt1 : then please do an dmesg in terminal
[10:12] <sc0tch> Can anyone recommend a good/prefered ISO creation/editing tool? Need to convert some exisiting directories to ISO.
[10:13] <linxeh> sc0tch: mkisofs
[10:13] <kelsin> rolnxyz: you can use MythTV and just not use the TV portion, it handles music and movies file (friend uses it for dvd iso's all the time)
[10:13] <benkillin> how do I get a newer version of phpmyadmin, the one in aptitude is 4:2.8.2-0.2 and that one doesn't work correctly with browsers other than IE
[10:13] <teeL> I have installed LAMP, and internet was still working. Then i rebooted and I couldnt connect to internet or lan. Anyone got any suggestions?
[10:13] <unimatrix9> SCanzt1 : you will get an lot of info , try to find the first ide - or ata disk
[10:13] <linxeh> teeL: the cable came out?
[10:13] <gradin> anybody know how to view whats going on in say... tty1 when remotely sshing a box?
[10:13] <sc0tch> Thanks linexh, I'll google that.
[10:13] <linxeh> sc0tch: sudo apt-get install mkisofs
[10:14] <tovella> lisapc: that sounds like an attempted insult, but your own words were, ..."can I make a gig part for ubuntu using my partiton maker and then tell ubuntu at install time to use that particular partition?".
[10:14] <benkillin> teeL check /etc/resolv.conf sometimes DNS gets messedup
[10:14] <teeL> linxeh: ha-ha. no =P i checked it..
[10:14] <teeL> benkillin: ok ill check
[10:14] <tovella> lisapc: like is said, your gonna need more than a gig.
[10:14] <SpAwN> sc0tch, i *think* kiso will do that to...its a gui for mkisofs
[10:14] <SCanzt1> unimatrix, can we go to another chanel?
[10:15] <lisapc> tovella because the person I was speaking to at the time, was able to contexualise the comment, so no need to have included the "swap" comment
[10:15] <faLUCE> Hi. I have compiled a simple kernel module called hello-1.c with. make -C /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build SUBDIRS=`pwd` modules.   Then I have installed it with make -C /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build SUBDIRS=`pwd` modules_install. Shell's output seems ok, but Now, i can't find where it's installed....
[10:15] <linxeh> teeL: can you ping an ip address? eg 216.239.59.104 (one of googles web servers)
[10:15] <teeL> linxeh: No.
[10:15] <unimatrix9> channel open...
[10:15] <SCanzt1> #open?
[10:15] <sc0tch> Looks like mkisofs is already installed on my kubuntu system here, I'll look into the GUI, that would be helpful! Thanks.
[10:15] <linxeh> teeL: is your ethernet interface visible to "ifconfig" ?
[10:15] <teeL> benkillin: I checked it, and it says: Nameserver 192.168.62.1 (which is my router) and nameserver 0.0.0.0.
[10:15] <rolnxyz> thanks kelsin
[10:15] <linxeh> sc0tch: k3b on kubuntu should be able to make isos i think
[10:16] <tovella> lisapc: like everyone else, i sometimes miss out on parts of a conversation, but to answer your question more directly... yes i use aspirin from time to time.
[10:16] <SCanzt1> unimatrix: go to #Glenn
[10:16] <unimatrix9> ok
[10:16] <rolnxyz> however elisa seems like a good candidate too
[10:17] <teeL> linxeh: Yes.
[10:17] <lisapc> i have 1 gig ram and installing ubuntu with gnome and KDE.  Will 1 Gig swap file suffice?  Or must I make it 2 gig?
[10:17] <crdlb> lisapc, plenty
[10:17] <dyrne> lisapc: i run with 512 with no problem. xfce on 256 is smooth
[10:17] <tovella> lisapc: agreed.
[10:17] <lisapc> crdlb whats plenty?
[10:17] <benkillin> teeL: is your box set for DHCP or did you set it to a static IP?
[10:18] <crdlb> lisapc, 1gb
[10:18] <nelso_ko> how do I setup my ubuntu install to use the serial port to communicate to other equipment?
[10:18] <lisapc> crdlb tovella tells me it wont run with only 1 gig swap
[10:18] <crdlb> lisapc, unless you plan on hibernating you really don't need any swap
[10:18] <sink> hi
[10:18] <lisapc> crdlb so ill make it 1 gig swap then, thanks.
[10:18] <linxeh> teeL: is an ip address shown ?
[10:18] <nexous> Okay, I tried reinstalling firefox, but I keep getting the whole 'Restore Previous Session' everytime.
[10:18] <teeL> benkillin: DHCP
[10:18] <nexous> Anyone know how to resolve this?
[10:19] <tovella> lisapc: i've acknowledged that was a mistake on my part.
[10:19] <benkillin> can you ping the localhost?
[10:19] <lisapc> nexous i have a  solution
[10:19] <shoumik> hi i'm having some trouble with banshee
[10:19] <shoumik> it's not recognizing my ipod
[10:19] <jeff_> nexous: you can delete your ~/.mozilla directory if you want to get rid of all settings and extensions you've changed
[10:19] <lisapc> nexous type: killall firefox-bin
[10:19] <tovella> lisapc: i missed the part about it being for swap.  assumed you meant for root partition.
[10:20] <abonilla> I have a problem with networkmanager, I cannot see wirless networks with it until in the network-admin. In the Applet it won't show any networks, nor it will give WPA as an option. Any idea why?
[10:20] <lisapc> tovella ok np. thanks
[10:20] <SCanzt1> !pastebin
[10:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:20] <teeL> linxeh: The ipadress is in the syslog.. Something pops up everytime i try to ping something.
[10:20] <teeL> benkillin: Yes, i can ping localhost
[10:20] <shoumik> hi does any1 know if i can use my ipod shuffle with amarok
[10:21] <shoumik> so that i can arange songs a certain way
[10:21] <nexous> jeff_ removing the dir messes up the layout of firefox. Completly.
[10:21] <benkillin> teeL: can you ping the router
[10:21] <teeL> benkillin: no
[10:21] <tovella> my new puppy kept me up all night.  gotta get some sleep.  goodnight all.
[10:21] <dyrne> shoumik: only a 1% chance of explosion
[10:21] <n0rx> no.i dont htink Ipod's workj at all with Linux systems
[10:21] <shoumik> can i use banshee to arrangee my songs
[10:21] <kelsin> abonilla: you need to let your system or networkmanager handle each network interface not both. If you want to have network manager handle eth1 make sure all references to eth1 are commented out in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:21] <moche> anyone willing to help a linux newbie install drivers for a GeForce FX 5500 graphics card?
[10:22] <abonilla> kelsin: ahhh! nice pointer
[10:22] <crdlb> shoumik, afaik banshee won't modify the directory structure
[10:22] <shoumik> o
[10:22] <Mr_Bunny_> I'd like to start BOINC Manager and Apache2 when my machine boots. Ubuntu 6.10. How would I do that?
[10:22] <kelsin> abonilla: I normally have networkmangaer handle everything and only have lo in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:22] <linxeh> teeL: no IP address in ifconfig though ?
[10:22] <abonilla> kelsin: so, that would be the reason? they should write code to warn users about that
[10:22] <linxeh> n0rx: iPods work fine with linux
[10:23] <n0rx> : /
[10:23] <n0rx> hehe. never tried one :D
[10:23] <linxeh> n0rx: just not with the official software (though iTunes works under WINE)
[10:23] <n0rx> doh! sorry, of course htey do, nvm
[10:23] <sink> i'm tried to play mp3 with 5.1, but it only sounds by 2 speakers, my audio card is a AC97, i don't know i need to do, someone can help me please?
[10:23] <up365> moche, if you havent been here yet http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=138 step by step directions for new and experienced
[10:23] <teeL> linxeh: The ipadress is shown in ifconfig. eth0
[10:23] <Mr_Bunny_> How do I make my Ubuntu Edgy machine run commands (such as starting programs) when it boots?
[10:24] <shoumik> well how can i arrange songs on my shuffle through amarok?
[10:24] <atomiku_> you know
[10:24] <atomiku_> i really cant be bothered to reinstall
[10:24] <atomiku_> im gonna face this problem and fix it
[10:25] <xyverz> that's the spirit!
[10:25] <linxeh> teeL: can you ping that ip address ?
[10:25] <atomiku_> so lemme just start by reasking my question
[10:25] <Mr_Bunny_> How do I set ubuntu edgy to run commands just after the boot process?
[10:25] <darkcommon> hi, for ubuntu spanish irc, what i need to type
[10:25] <kelsin> abonilla: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager that's what taught me
[10:25] <sink> i'm tried to play mp3 with 5.1, but it only sounds by 2 speakers, my audio card is a AC97, i don't know i need to do, someone can help me please?
[10:25] <teeL> linxeh: Yes.
[10:26] <xyverz> atomiku_: ... and your question is?
[10:26] <linxeh> sink: please dont repeat so soon - it was seen the first time
[10:26] <atomiku_> When X tries to start, I get this error: No devices detected. Then Fatal Server Error: No screens found. All I did recently was run the beryl nvidia install script and install some restricted module thing through apt-get
[10:26] <darkcommon> SINK revise the configuration of your main/audiocard and allow 5.1
[10:26] <linxeh> teeL: in dmesg, does it tell you that the link is up for eth0 ?
[10:26] <darkcommon> SINK or... test the cables
[10:26] <Trelard> Hi, I downloaded and burned the 6.10 cd.. I checked the CD via the menu on Boot startup. When i try to install Ubuntu I get a black screen. Anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[10:26] <linxeh> atomiku_: you tried to use the nvidia drivers I guess
[10:26] <sink> ok, sorry, i really bored of this problem, i was trying to fix for 2 months -_-
[10:26] <kelsin> sink: is this a 5.1 mp3 or just a normal stereo one? If it's not a 5.1 audio file then you need to setup your audio card to fake 5 speakers when it only gets 2 channels of audio
[10:26] <xyverz> atomiku_: did you install linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx?
[10:26] <atomiku_> Well
[10:26] <AJIEXA> hi all, I have a troble, plz help me please!!! I have two soundcard in my ubuntu, they are worked good but I can't to switch default one for system and all accaunts - what i must do ??? help me please
[10:26] <xyverz> and config your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver?
[10:27] <atomiku_> I installed nvidia-glx, then I did nvidia-xconfig
[10:27] <linxeh> atomiku_: you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic too
[10:27] <atomiku_> Rebooted, it worked fine.
[10:27] <up365> sink, sounds like (no pun intended) you need to get into alsamixer through terminal
[10:27] <sink> kelsin, normalstereo
[10:27] <atomiku_> then
[10:27] <darkcommon> KELSIN is right
[10:27] <atomiku_> After this reboot, I ran the beryl install script
[10:27] <atomiku_> It all worked good
[10:27] <linxeh> ah
[10:27] <darkcommon> you need a config for your audiocard, like Windw$
[10:27] <linxeh> I gave up with beryl nad the nvidia drivers. every time the kernel is  updated the ubuntu packages break
[10:27] <xyverz> atomiku: ok, then what?
[10:27] <atomiku_> I also did this: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.1.17-11-386
[10:28] <kelsin> sink: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound that has useful information, obviously it's not ubuntu, and you might need to find a ubuntu way of doing things, but still
[10:28] <atomiku_> hoping it would uddate stuff or something
[10:28] <atomiku_> but when I rebooted after that
[10:28] <kelsin> sink: that has the appropiate alsa changes
[10:28] <atomiku_> all i got was that error
[10:28] <xyverz> atomiku_: just apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[10:28] <AJIEXA> darkcommon: they are worked
[10:28] <atomiku_> okay
[10:28] <sink> darkcommon, cables are ok, and i tried a lot of configurations
[10:28] <teeL> linxeh: What do you mean? =p It says something like IN= OUT=ETH0
[10:28] <sink> but nothing
[10:28] <linxeh> xyverz: that didnt work for me last week
[10:28] <xyverz> that'll get the module that's required for your current kernel.
[10:28] <atomiku_> couldnt find package linux-restricted-miodules
[10:28] <linxeh> xyverz: the  metapackage failed to install the proper package for my kernel
[10:28] <xyverz> if you're running the generic kernel, the 386 module won't work for you
[10:28] <darkcommon> 4sink I dont known who its sthe mistake
[10:28] <linxeh> atomiku_: check that "nv" isnt present in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules
[10:28] <Trelard> thanks Mr_Bunny.. I'll try that
[10:28] <sink> kelsin, thanks, i'm going to read this
[10:29] <dyrne> atomiku_: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)    i think still works with the generic kernel theyre using now
[10:29] <DemisM> how do I make sure an app runs at boot time, i added files to rc* and init.d do i need to do something else
[10:29] <Mr_Bunny_> How can I get a command to run upon booting?
[10:29] <atomiku_> there is nothing in /etc/default/linux-restircted-modules
[10:29] <atomiku_> stuff in linux-restircted-modules common though
[10:29] <atomiku_> dyrne: one sec
[10:29] <erUSUL> Mr_Bunny_: /etc/rc.local
[10:29] <AJIEXA> how i can switch the default soundcard in my system ????
[10:30] <theforge> okay, i have a sony vaio with 512 mb ram, 33 gb hd, 800 amd duron. currently has pfsense installed. i downloaded ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso from ftp.kernel.org burned the image to a cd-r/w. booted the cdrom and preformed the cdrom intergity test and memtest both passed. when i select ubunto start or install it claims it has loaded the linux kernel and gives a splash screen with a small progress bar oscillating back and forth. after a short ti
[10:30] <theforge> me the screen goes blank and nothing else occurs. any suggestions, hints, comments, etc ?
[10:30] <Mr_Bunny_> >.< pastebin!
[10:30] <darkcommon> XYVERZ a question, i have an AMD64bits proc, I installed Ubuntu EDgy 6.10 64, but in the kernel, appears "2.16.11-generic" I need any other kernel? or is this the kernel for 64bits systems?
[10:30] <linxeh> atomiku_: make sure it doesnt have nv in that file
[10:30] <xyverz> hmmm... I dunno about 64bit.
[10:30] <atomiku_> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-368 is already at newest version
[10:30] <darkcommon> I doesnt known who "generic" mean!!
[10:30] <jeff_> darkcommon, it's 64bit kernel if you installed 64bit ubuntu
[10:30] <linxeh> darkcommon: generic replaced k7
[10:30] <darkcommon> amm...
[10:31] <darkcommon> THNX
[10:31] <xyverz> darkcommon: yeah, looks like the generic will work for you too.
[10:31] <atomiku_> linxeh: the only thing in that file is RESTRICTED_MODULES="" or something
[10:31] <atomiku_> no
[10:31] <linxeh> atomiku_: thats ok then :)
[10:31] <atomiku_> DISABLED_MODULES=""
[10:31] <darkcommon> ok!! thanks!!
[10:31] <xyverz> you're welcome
[10:31] <n-iCe> Hi
[10:31] <xyverz> darkcommon: best way to check is to see what kernel you're running now:  uname -r
[10:31] <sink> kelsin, i can't understand the things of the web :s
[10:31] <xyverz> or uname -a
[10:31] <atomiku_> (EE) No devices detected
[10:31] <n-iCe> How can I install limewire in xubuntu
[10:31] <atomiku_> I think I have two different nvidia drivers installed or something
[10:31] <atomiku_> I really dont know
[10:31] <frwagon> Hey everyone - Just had the sound card in my laptop fry, soon to buy an external sound card ... any that work particularly well in Ubuntu?  m-audio? Creative Labs?
[10:31] <funpop> if i save a session, where is it stored ? asnd can is there a backup ?
[10:31] <dyrne> !frostwire | n-iCe  :)
[10:31] <ubotu> n-iCe  :): frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:32] <xyverz> n-iCe: why would you want to?  *shudder* ;)
[10:32] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Mr_Bunny_ about pm | Mr_Bunny_ see priv msg from ubotu
[10:32] <darkcommon> my kernel is: 2.6.17-10-generic , I hope is compatible with AMD64 proccessor.
[10:32] <xyverz> bittorrent FTW!
[10:32] <n-iCe> thank yooooou
[10:32] <n-iCe> let me read
[10:32] <linux1> hiya ppl mirrors down for edgy update ive tryed .nl and .gb r there any others
[10:32] <n-iCe> works in xubuntu ?
[10:32] <moche> @up365 - thanks for the link
[10:32] <xyverz> n-iCe: yes
[10:32] <linux1> opps not edgy i mean feisty
[10:32] <n-iCe> good , thank you
[10:32] <kelsin> n-iCe: limewire uses the gnutella network, there are LOTS of gnutella clients available as well
[10:32] <linxeh> frwagon: I had a creative soundblaster external thing that worked ok a couple of years ago. most should work I think, as long as they are standard usb audio devices. you can get good PCMCIA ones that work too (depends how much you want to spend)
[10:33] <n-iCe> say that the file doesn't exist _/
[10:33] <teeL> linxeh: Got any more suggestions? :)
[10:33] <n-iCe> using : sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[10:33] <n-iCe> :/
[10:33] <darkcommon> n-iCe: amm... install Automatix, and search an gnutella net client, or in Synaptic, or via terminal "aptitude search gnutella"
[10:33] <funpop> and bearshare, that uses gnutella too made the police come to the flatemate of my girlfriend
[10:33] <frwagon> linxeh - hoping for cheap.  Will Ubuntu be friendly with just plugging it in, or should i prep drivers somewhere?
[10:33] <n-iCe> what? i'm new sorry
[10:33] <darkcommon> n-iCe: GTK-Gnutella 4example
[10:34] <linuxnewbie756> how can i rename all of the files in a folder from, for example, .rst (file type) to .txt? for example, file.rst to file.txt?
[10:34] <yomm> think twice before using !automatix
[10:34] <linuxnewbie756> can i write up a batch script for that?
[10:34] <xyverz> n-iCe: welcome to ubuntu! :-)  Linux will pwn your world.
[10:34] <n-iCe> what i should do with that darkcommon ?
[10:34] <darkcommon> n-iCe with what? automatix?
[10:34] <xyverz> n-iCe: it's a Gnutella front end.
[10:34] <yomm> !automatix
[10:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:34] <darkcommon> n-iCe or the terminal commands
[10:34] <theforge> linuxnewbie756: for f in `ls <dir>`
[10:34] <n-iCe> darkcommon,  with everything
[10:34] <dyrne> n-iCe: you can use automatix if you want. i dont like it. you can downoad the deb file at frostwire website  just google frostwire
[10:34] <kelsin> n-iCe: did you download the deb file, and then type "cd ~/Desktop" like the page tell you to
[10:34] <n-iCe> I need to do what to downlaod the frostwire
[10:35] <linuxnewbie756> theforge, i don't understand that. i have many folders in folders, so how would i do that
[10:35] <n-iCe> let me see, then i don't need tu use terminal commands ?
[10:35] <linxeh> frwagon: most usb soundcards use the usb-audio standards, so you should be ok generally
[10:35] <darkcommon> xyverz "n-iCe: welcome to ubuntu! :-)  Linux will pwn your world." YEAH!!! LINUX POWER!!
[10:35] <kelsin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire you follow those directions
[10:35] <frwagon> linxeh: cool, thanks for the help!
[10:35] <linxeh> frwagon: i would check to see what is supported under alsa though first
[10:35] <linxeh> doh
[10:35] <n-iCe> which one i should download: #   Ubuntu/Debian
[10:35] <n-iCe> # Tarball, RPM
[10:35] <Jowi> linuxnewbie756, rename 's/.rst/.txt/' *
[10:35] <theforge> linuxnewbie756: do nf=`echo ${f} | sed -e 's/\.rst.*$//g'`; echo "mv <dir>/${nf}.rst <dir>/${nf}.txt"; done
[10:36] <n-iCe>  Ubuntu/Debian , Tarball or  RPM
[10:36] <juancgt> anyone knows how to change the default ubuntu vncserver port?
[10:36] <xyverz> n-iCe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire should have the info you need to install and get running with Frostwire.
[10:36] <dyrne> n-iCe: deb file which the ubuntu/debian will be
[10:36] <yomm> n-ice : have you tried synaptic ?
[10:36] <Buva> i need help
[10:36] <theforge> linuxnewbie756: where <dir> is the directory name.
[10:36] <Buva> can someone
[10:36] <Buva> help
[10:36] <Buva> pls
[10:36] <Buva> ?
[10:36] <Buva> pvt
[10:36] <linuxnewbie756> Jowi, , theforge, i don't understand
[10:36] <linxeh> juancgt: maybe in /etc/init.d/vncserver or something
[10:36] <n-iCe> yomm,  nope there can i find it ?
[10:36] <spinster> Buva: ne PVT samo tuj zbori
[10:36] <rusty> with what
[10:36] <atomiku_> When X tries to start, I get this error: No devices detected. Then Fatal Server Error: No screens found. All I did recently was run the beryl nvidia install script and install some restricted module thing through apt-get
[10:36] <linuxnewbie756> theforge, it is /home/matt/1
[10:36] <darkcommon> dyrne : I install some software with Automatix2 and I have the system online, but installing apt-get via, i have some problem, sometimes (I use apt more)
[10:36] <yomm> n-ice : are you running Ubuntu Edgy ?
[10:36] <spinster> Buva: dojdi na kanal bosanac ajed..
[10:36] <n-iCe> xubuntu
[10:37] <Buva> NEED HELP ABOUT UBUNTU
[10:37] <theforge> okay, i have a sony vaio with 512 mb ram, 33 gb hd, 800 amd duron. currently has pfsense installed. i downloaded ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso from ftp.kernel.org burned the image to a cd-r/w. booted the cdrom and preformed the cdrom intergity test and memtest both passed. when i select ubunto start or install it claims it has loaded the linux kernel and gives a splash screen with a small progress bar oscillating back and forth. after a short ti
[10:37] <theforge> me the screen goes blank and nothing else occurs. any suggestions, hints, comments, etc ?
[10:37] <Buva> just instaled it
[10:37] <darkcommon> Buva say
[10:37] <rusty> why doesnt the volume control work
[10:37] <spinster> BUVO DOJDI NA KANAL BOSANAC
[10:37] <yomm> n-ice : Its in your menu ; under system i think
[10:37] <xyverz> n-iCe: are you running Edgy or Dapper?
[10:37] <rusty> in programs or on the toolbar
[10:37] <darkcommon>  Buva what problems have u?
[10:37] <linxeh> atomiku_: if you just want to get X working, but without beryl / XGL etc, then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nvidia" to "nv"
[10:37] <gilligan_> does anyone know where I can enable compilation of the i8k.ko module ? I can't find "I8K" or anything like that in the .config file
[10:38] <darkcommon> Buva?? are you online??
[10:38] <n-iCe> xyverz,  no idea
[10:38] <xyverz> theforge: take a look at the resolution settings.  I'd use something safe like 800x600 for install
[10:38] <Jowi> linuxnewbie756, there are many ways of achieving this. one of the ways is to use the command "rename". it has got a special syntax though: rename 's/stringtoreplace/replacewiththis/' filename_or_wildcard
[10:38] <atomiku_> linxeh: hmm?
[10:38] <yomm> n-ice :synaptic is an easy to use tool with search functions fo rinstalling software & oackages
[10:38] <yomm> *packages
[10:38] <faLUCE> I'm trying to build a really simple kernel module without result. I'm getting mad. here's the makefile: http://rafb.net/p/BykcSi60.html. Heres' the source: http://rafb.net/p/LjMzVi22.html . Here is the error:  make: *** No targets.  Stop. help me!! thnks:)
[10:38] <atomiku_> well
[10:38] <atomiku_> beryl is uninstalled at the moment
[10:38] <linxeh> atomiku_: that will put you back on the old xorg nvidia driver, which will get you into X at least
[10:38] <xyverz> n-iCe: cat /etc/debian_version and let us know the response
[10:38] <n-iCe> yomm,  i know i'll check there
[10:38] <rusty> anyone know how to fix the volume control
[10:38] <atomiku_> linxeh: okay
[10:38] <darkcommon> n-iCe yomm its true. Synaptic is very simply app
[10:38] <DarkSpirit> Is there a newsreader like Newsbin ?
[10:39] <kelsin> n-iCe is trying to install frostwire which is not in the ubuntu repositories, he just has to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire go there and follow the directions
[10:39] <n-iCe> cat /etc/debian_version
[10:39] <linxeh> atomiku_: i've given up trying to get the proper nvidia-glx drivers to work reliably
[10:39] <n-iCe> hSTOP
[10:39] <n-iCe> STOP
[10:39] <darkcommon> DarkSpirit Use liferea
[10:39] <n-iCe> One by one
[10:39] <LarryDavid> anyone know why when I install Gnome from Kubuntu, it takes over my login screen (and adds a new one with a flower) ? Is there anyway to stop this, cos for some reason my monitor doesnt like it and is going mental
[10:39] <n-iCe> to who i need to follow ?
[10:39] <yomm> kelsin : ok i see !
[10:39] <n-iCe> testing/unstable
[10:39] <Buva> yeah
[10:39] <n-iCe> that say
[10:39] <Buva> i'm here
[10:39] <Buva> darkcommon
[10:39] <rusty> anyone know how to fix the volume control
[10:39] <darkcommon> say me!
[10:39] <Buva> look
[10:39] <atomik1> okay
[10:39] <DarkSpirit> Does it support binary ?
[10:39] <Buva> i was on windows xp
[10:39] <atomik1> linxeh: im in!
[10:39] <Buva> i today
[10:39] <Buva> i instaled my ubuntu
[10:40] <darkcommon> well
[10:40] <Buva> so on my windovs local disks H & I
[10:40] <Buva> gone
[10:40] <Buva> and
[10:40] <Buva> here
[10:40] <yomm> n-ice : kelsin is right , if its not in the ubuntu repo ,  you either have to add a repo if one exists , otherwise follw the on-site instructions
[10:40] <Buva> in computer
[10:40] <atomik1> linxeh: Now, the question is: How do I go about fixing up this whole driver issue?
[10:40] <Buva> i have
[10:40] <Buva> them
[10:40] <darkcommon> Buva, please write all in a line
[10:40] <z0rz> Anyone know how to get color working in links2 cli mode?
[10:40] <Buva> ok
[10:40] <sink> bb!
[10:40] <erUSUL> !enter > Buva
[10:40] <kelsin> n-iCe: go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire and follow the instructions
[10:41] <linxeh> atomik1: cool - now you need (imo) to reboot to an older kernel, then apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-..... nvidia-glx... etc, then apt-get clean, and then try installing them again, before rebooting to the right kernel. it was a right pig for me
[10:41] <dyrne> n-iCe: the original answer to your question is both lime and frost require java. "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" will install the safest version i think in edgy. once that is down download the deb from frostwire's website and install it like sudo dpkg -i /home/username/Desktop/*.deb
[10:41] <Buva> i have them on linux here in computer but i can't open it "Unable to mound the selected volume
[10:41] <darkcommon> ummm... its an NTFS partition?
[10:41] <n-iCe> java is for play games?
[10:41] <atomik1> linxeh: im my grub menu I have multiple versions
[10:41] <darkcommon> or an FAT32?
[10:41] <sacater> If there is anyone in here who wants to be a BETA tester for my TEA debian build, i want to know whether my .desktop file works, i supply both tea_14.2.4-3_i386.deb tea-data_14.2.4-3_all.deb, if you are interested please join #sacater
[10:41] <atomik1> I have a blahblahblah-10 and a blahblahblah-11
[10:41] <teeL> linxeh: Here is one of the lines in syslog: lserver kernel: [17181210.888000]  IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.62.50 DST=192.168.62.1 LEN67 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL64 ID=7746 PROTO=UDP SPT=32771 DPT=53 LEN=47
[10:42] <DemisM> beryl is insane
[10:42] <Buva> i don;t know much about that
[10:42] <BoMEpsilon> Speaking of beryl...
[10:42] <atomik1> linxeh: know what I mean? something like linux-generic-10, linux-generic-11 linux-386-11
[10:42] <darkcommon> DemisM, if you install beryl on an Ati 9550 graph. its opear very well
[10:42] <atomik1> i think im booted on linux-386-11 atm
[10:42] <BoMEpsilon> I just tried installing it, and I'm getting an x server error.
[10:42] <linxeh> atomik1: yeah, I would just choose one of the oldest on there
[10:42] <Buva> i know that i have wery important things there and i need them back
[10:42] <atomik1> linxeh: why the oldest one?
[10:42] <DemisM> i have an x600 and it is running awesomely
[10:43] <darkcommon> Buva, install gparted in ubuntu or paragon partition manager on windows and say me who partition is
[10:43] <SCanzt1> hi - amarok doesnt work, it claims that there is another program preventing it to work!!!
[10:43] <Buva> is there anyway to get them back
[10:43] <z0rz> Anyone know how to get color working in links2 cli mode?
[10:43] <BoMEpsilon> I used their script here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL_and_ATI
[10:43] <Buva> pl
[10:43] <linxeh> atomik1: well, anything but the current one. it will have problems removing modules that are in use etc
[10:43] <up365> beryl + edgy = disaster/reinstall
[10:43] <matju> in which package is there the manpage for backtrace_symbols (3) ?
[10:43] <atomik1> hmmmm
[10:43] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, are you in GNOME?
[10:43] <linxeh> teeL: sounds like you have a firewall installed. do sudo iptables -L - does it list any rules ?
[10:43] <SCanzt1> yes
[10:43] <darkcommon> up365, nope, i installed BEryl XGL in EDGY 64 6.10
[10:43] <darkcommon> up365, and run very well
[10:44] <linxeh> up365: it's more nvidia-glx that's a nightmare imo
[10:44] <axioms> Hi I need some help, i installed menu and menu-xdg and the debian menu still doesn't show up, what do i need to do?
[10:44] <SCanzt1> krakensden: yes
[10:44] <up365> darkcommon, for me then
[10:44] <linxeh> darkcommon: good luck when the kernel gets updated
[10:44] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, this may sound terrible, but go to the control panel turn off 'software mixing'
[10:44] <GhostFreeman> Is there anything like NetLimiter for Ubuntu?
[10:44] <erUSUL> matju: manpages-dev ?
[10:44] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, then run 'killall esd' in a terminal
[10:44] <GenNMX> If I have two ServerLayouts defined in xorg.conf, the first is F7 and the second is F8, right?
[10:45] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, 'esd', which should be going away soon, is famous for blocking the soundcard when it doesn't have a hardware mixer
[10:45] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, and Linux/ALSA does a better job of mixing in any case
[10:45] <DarkSpirit> Are there Binary Reader for Linux ?
[10:45] <n-iCe> Where can I downlaod something like winamp ?
[10:45] <LarryDavid> anyone know why when I install Gnome from Kubuntu, it takes over my login screen (and adds a new one with a flower) ? Is there anyway to stop this, cos for some reason my monitor doesnt like it and is going mental - how do I disable gnome desktop manager and have the regular kubuntu/kde one (the blue one) load instead?
[10:45] <n-iCe> a mp3 player ?
[10:45] <spinster> darkcommon: Buva wants to know how he can "itall gparted in ubuntu or paragon partition manager on windows and say me who partition is"
[10:45] <darkcommon> Buva, first, test if the drive is ok, (exists) and if exists, run in WinbugsXP, if its exists, and you can access it, its only a fail of Ubuntu (need to repair, I too have this problem) if you can access, format it, before create a backup
[10:45] <Buva> can you tell me how to i install download gparted in ubuntu what ever is that
[10:45] <darkcommon> *after create a backup
[10:45] <CAN_> does any of you know, how can i resume with scp?
[10:45] <CAN_> tnx
[10:45] <rmd_> n-iCe, open Synaptic and search for WinAmp or XMMS
[10:45] <rmd_> n-iCe, or Zinf
[10:45] <spinster> darkcommon: Buva is new in linux
[10:45] <eugman> Is compiz more stable than beryl? Nearly every other login if I use beryl it'll be all flicker and not work right.
[10:45] <n-iCe> hehehe
[10:45] <linxeh> LarryDavid: you need to use kdm rather than gdm
[10:45] <n-iCe> exists winamp ?!
[10:46] <n-iCe> :o ?
[10:46] <KrakensDen> n-iCe, try rythmbox
[10:46] <n-iCe> which one is the best ?
[10:46] <darkcommon> gparted= Partition Magic for ubuntu, its really same, but I preffer the Freespire livecd partitioner
[10:46] <KrakensDen> n-iCe, though many people like amarok or beep
[10:46] <crdlb> eugman, usually
[10:46] <linxeh> n-iCe: a copy of winamp is x11amp
[10:46] <darkcommon> gparted= or Paragon PRO
[10:46] <kelsin> n-iCe: up to you, we can't tell you which player you'll like best
[10:46] <teeL> linxeh: How does the rules look like? =p Is it the "Drop"?
[10:46] <KrakensDen> n-iCe, it depends. What is better, WMP, media player classic, foobar2000?
[10:46] <SCanzt1> krakens: now wat
[10:46] <spinster> darkcommon: so tell him a website, sudo apt-get please .......... he is NEW ON LINUX
[10:46] <dyrne> n-iCe: xmms is alot like winamp
[10:46] <linxeh> teeL: well I have no rules listed on my machine
[10:46] <juancgt> anyone knows how to change the default ubuntu vncserver port?
[10:46] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, try it again
[10:46] <Jowi> n-iCe, quodlibet is my favourite. xmms is almost exactly as winamp
[10:46] <darkcommon> aha!! sorry, i dont known it!!
[10:46] <linxeh> teeL: how did you install lamp ?
[10:46] <darkcommon> sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:46] <rmd_> they're all crap
[10:47] <spinster> darkcommon: after that ?
[10:47] <dyrne> juancgt: vncserver :2 or whatever
[10:47] <axioms> Hi I need some help, i installed menu and menu-xdg and the debian menu still doesn't show up, what do i need to do?
[10:47] <darkcommon> 
[10:47] <atomik1> linxeh:
[10:47] <crdlb> n-iCe, try audacious
[10:47] <SCanzt1> Krakens: no process killed
[10:47] <atomik1> there?
[10:47] <n-iCe> thank you
[10:47] <LarryDavid> linxeh: how do I specify it to use kdm instead of gdm?
[10:47] <teeL> linxeh: I got a list of stuff like this: ( random line =p ) DROP all -- anywhere 224.0.0.1
[10:47] <darkcommon> i can exprese me more, i have very bad english....
[10:47] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, oh? That's strange
[10:47] <eugman> Anyone have suggestion for a ide to do newb level c++ programming?
[10:48] <atomik1> linxeh: can you join #atomiku a sec
[10:48] <atomik1> just wanna paste something and ask a quick question
[10:48] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, what do you have running right now?
[10:48] <yomm> darkcommon : what is your native language ?
[10:48] <kelsin> eugman: Anjuntu or KDevelop
[10:48] <darkcommon> spanish
[10:48] <darkcommon> yomm spanish
[10:48] <erUSUL> !es
[10:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:48] <spinster> darkcommon: after sudo apt-get install gparted what to type we enter the passwd and ? what now ?
[10:48] <SCanzt1> kraken: music program
[10:48] <SCanzt1> ???
[10:48] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, that's it?
[10:48] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, firefox?
[10:48] <SCanzt1> o
[10:48] <SCanzt1> ok
[10:48] <kelsin> eugman: I mean: Anjuta or KDevelop :) spelling error
[10:48] <matju> erUSUL: no, it's already installed, but backtrace_symbols is still missing. i also have installed libstdc++6-doc and gcc-doc and it's not there either. that manpage is about a gcc-specific function
[10:48] <darkcommon> u-u gparted spinster,
[10:48] <eugman> kelsin, will kdevelop work that well on gnome?
[10:48] <darkcommon> spinster run in a konsole gparted
[10:48] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, yeah, there is a tweak for that
[10:49] <SCanzt1> terminal, firefox, filebrowser, GAIM
[10:49] <spinster> darkcommon: look Buva will paste something..
[10:49] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, fiesty is supposed to fix alot of the sound retardation
[10:49] <darkcommon> emm... how i can to change the channel with XCHAT
[10:49] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, but as of now, pulse isn't integrated
[10:49] <Buva> bojan@linuxtech:~$ sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:49] <Buva> Password:
[10:49] <Buva> Reading package lists... Done
[10:49] <Buva> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:49] <Buva> Package gparted is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:49] <Buva> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:49] <kelsin> eugman: yes, it won't look like your other gnome apps, and do things in a very KDE way, but it works. A lot of people prefer it to the gnome ides, up to you. I use emacs
[10:49] <n-iCe> i did it !!
[10:49] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, in any case, close firefox, restart amarok
[10:49] <Buva> is only available from another source
[10:49] <Buva> E: Package gparted has no installation candidate
[10:49] <Buva> bojan@linuxtech:~$
[10:49] <n-iCe> i already install it thank you guys
[10:49] <crdlb> darkcommon, run /join #channel
[10:49] <erUSUL> !repos > Buva
[10:49] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, and tell me what's in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[10:49] <darkcommon> Well, i help buva before
[10:50] <spinster> darkcommon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7990/
[10:50] <n-iCe> then i will use xmms ?
[10:50] <spinster> look in there
[10:50] <eugman> kelsin, well I'd like to have the least amount of trouble compiling and running since this is small stuff.
[10:50] <darkcommon> Buva, wait... im searching any gparted mod
[10:50] <spinster> darkcommon: okay we wait..
[10:50] <Buva> i'm waiting
[10:50] <Buva> ;)
[10:50] <spinster> ;)
[10:50] <kelsin> eugman: compiling and running your program? Both are the same to install, just use synaptic and install kdevelop or anjuta
[10:51] <kelsin> eugman: go look at the project homepage's to see which you'd like to use more
[10:51] <darkcommon> Buva, you need the multi/universe repos
[10:51] <eugman> kelsin, no I mean the stuff I'm making.
[10:51] <Buva> ok ???
[10:51] <darkcommon> in console: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <Matic`Makovec> !compiz
[10:51] <eugman> kelsin, as in I'd like a nice button to clikc to compile the stuff I right.
[10:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:51] <spinster> Buva: type in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <spinster> and ur passwd :)
[10:52] <darkcommon> spinster, i
[10:52] <kelsin> eugman: then I would adivse looking into those two programs, Both are very simular to Visual Studio and other ides
[10:52] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, sorry 'bout all this
[10:52] <SCanzt1> kraken: FIREFOX_DSP="none"
[10:52] <spinster> darkcommon: after that what to type it ?
[10:52] <GenNMX> Can I have alsa and esd installed at the same time?
[10:53] <Slart> GenNMX: yes
[10:53] <tobyr> Hi
[10:53] <darkcommon> Buva, delete the "#" for all lines starting by deb
[10:53] <SCanzt1> i think i know y
[10:53] <GenNMX> Some of my programs complain that /bin/esd is missing, though.
[10:53] <Matic`Makovec> Anyone know any "really cool" howto for 3D desktop (compiz and stuff)?
[10:53] <little> PS2 mouse and keyboard freeze when installing. Seems to be a common problem. Is there any workaround?
[10:53] <tobyr> I'm being really thick, but I've installed Amarok 1.4 and I've minimised it to a mini player and I can't bring up the full version again, anyone help?
[10:54] <Buva> what to delete ?
[10:54] <Slart> GenNMX: I can't say I know a lot about esd.. but I know that I have both installed and working on my own computer... so it's doable =)
[10:54] <Buva> i get it
[10:54] <Buva> :D
[10:54] <lesshaste> whenever I restart yet more nm-applets start up.  I am up to 7 now!
[10:54] <GenNMX> Slart: Did you install from freshmeat? As all I have for esound is esound-common
[10:54] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, did you retry amarok?
[10:54] <lesshaste> what can I do to stop this?
[10:54] <mEck0_> I wonder if there is any good benchmark/stress-/stabilitytest apps for ubuntu? I will start overclocking my cpu, memory and gfx soon and will do it seriously. I know that there is a lot of nice apps for this for Windows, but if there exsists for linux too, I don't need to boot up that Win-shit :)
[10:54] <darkcommon> the "#" symbol for lines starting by deb (ex. #deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main to deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main)
[10:54] <SCanzt1> i think i installed the wrong 1
[10:54] <Slart> GenNMX: nope..installed from repositories.. nothing weird.. nothing extra..
[10:54] <darkcommon> join #ubuntu-es
[10:54] <n-iCe> how can i download a mp3 player?
[10:54] <tobyr> Can anyone help me with my stupid amarok problem?
[10:55] <n-iCe> the best one
[10:55] <n-iCe> can anyone tell me what i need to write in the terminal ?
[10:55] <Buva> ok i deleted them
[10:55] <Slart> n-iCe: sudo apt-get audacious should work
[10:55] <tobyr> n-iCe, open Synaptic
[10:55] <Buva> now what ?
[10:55] <xyverz> n-iCe: gratz on getting it all installed.
[10:55] <n-iCe> thank you
[10:55] <n-iCe> Slart,
[10:55] <tobyr> That'll have a nice big list of programs to download
[10:55] <rmd_> n-iCe, use the menu and open Synaptic
[10:55] <xyverz> n-iCe: apt-get install xmms
[10:55] <xyverz> done.
[10:55] <Hal> what would be the wget command to download this page and all of the images it links to: http://thesimplegallery.com/pictures.php
[10:55] <xyverz> ;)
[10:55] <tobyr> or apt-get install amarok
[10:55] <tobyr> :)
[10:55] <spinster> darkcommon: we delete that, and what now ?
[10:55] <KrakensDen> SCanzt1, I doubt it. Amarok works pretty beautifully :P
[10:55] <xyverz> tobyr: :-b
[10:56] <n-iCe> says if i'm root
[10:56] <n-iCe> apt-get install xmms
[10:56] <tobyr> Although don't put it on mini player because I'm stuck with trying to get it back
[10:56] <tobyr> n-iCe,
[10:56] <n-iCe> with that xyverz
[10:56] <Slart> Hal: read the wget manual.. you're looking for recursive downloading.. levels and page requisites
[10:56] <tobyr> sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:56] <tobyr> then type your password in
[10:56] <rpc> hm does anyone have a clue about installing ejabberd?
[10:56] <xyverz> sorry, use sudo
[10:56] <Slart> Hal: I can't remember the exact switches
[10:56] <rpc> i'm getting this odd RPC error msg
[10:56] <KrakensDen> tobyr, hit the little 'pl' button on the mini player
[10:56] <Hal> i've tried everything I can..
[10:56] <n-iCe> done :)
[10:56] <GenNMX> Slart: Do you have /bin/esd?
[10:56] <spinster> darkcommon: are you here ?
[10:56] <KrakensDen> tobyr, that brings the playlist back
[10:56] <rmd_> n-iCe, have you looked at any information pertaining to installing software at all?  Open Synaptic and look around at what is available.
[10:56] <n-iCe> thank you
[10:56] <xyverz> n-iCe: even better - take a look at Audacious.
[10:56] <Hal> the best result I've gotten has been downloading the page, but not the images it links to
[10:56] <xyverz> !audacious
[10:56] <ubotu> A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[10:57] <Slart> GenNMX: I'll check.... nope. .no /bin/esd
[10:57] <tobyr> thanks :)
[10:57] <xyverz> I just switched from xmms to audacious.  same great skins, much improved interface.
[10:57] <tobyr> Now for the harder question
[10:57] <tobyr> Anyone installed an Audigy 2 NX on Ubuntu ?
[10:57] <n-iCe> How can i check my wireless connection speed , signal , etc... ?
[10:58] <crdlb> n-iCe, iwconfig
[10:58] <rmd_> !wireless
[10:58] <quiet> beep-media-player is still in edgy... but it works okay for now.
[10:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:58] <amaan> i cant get kiba-dock to work properly can someone help? i cant get the background to be transparent there are blue lines that go across that i cant get rid of...?
[10:58] <GionnyBoss> n-iCe, just add to the panel Network Monitor
[10:58] <n-iCe> GionnyBoss,  how ?
[10:58] <spinster> darkcommon: are you here ?
[10:58] <spinster> darkcommon: are you here ?
[10:58] <Buva> darkcommon: i deleted them , now what ?
[10:59] <Slart> GenNMX: I have it in /usr/bin/ instead..
[10:59] <GionnyBoss> n-iCe, right click on the panel... Add to panel ... Network Monitor ... don't you have it?
[10:59] <rmd_> n-iCe, right click the panel and click add.  and,afterwards, go to the Ubuntu website and start reading.
[10:59] <Slart> GenNMX: took a while to search through everything =)
[10:59] <n-iCe> panel ?
[10:59] <kanamitnux> if I may ask, I have a question.
[10:59] <n-iCe> what panel ?
[10:59] <rmd_> kanamitnux, ask away
[10:59] <h1st0> Anyone know why I would be able to right click and select "write to cd" on an ISO thats in my /home vs. one thats over a network share?
[10:59] <eugman> Anyonw know a good way of finding out what programs I have installed and should clear out?
[10:59] <linuxnewbie756> I have a folder with many folders in it, and so on. I want to rename all "whatever".rst files to "whatever".tab files. How can I do this? can someone stick with me through it all?
[10:59] <rmd_> n-iCe, the panel.  the bar at the bottom or top of your screen.
[11:00] <GionnyBoss> n-iCe, if you are on GNOME, there's a panel in the bottom part of the screen with menus and other stuff ... THAT PANEL!
[11:00] <kanamitnux> im having a problem with my sound with ubuntu 6.10
[11:00] <GionnyBoss> n-iCe, sorry, I meant the top part
[11:00] <h1st0> Basically the option isn't availible on a network share iso vs. one that is on local hdd
[11:00] <kanamitnux> when I play games like neverball the sound cracks and pops
[11:00] <rmd_> eugman, to see what you have installed, use Synaptic and sort by the installation situation.  to auto-remove things, apt-get autoremove
[11:00] <Buva> darkcommon: are you here ???
[11:00] <royel> how can I install glibc_2.4 on Dapper, I can't find it doing with "aptitude search" ?
[11:01] <n-iCe> Don't say network monitor
[11:01] <kelsin> linuxnewbie756: google: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/244
[11:01] <rmd_> royel, try an apt-cache search glibc and then see if it just has a different package name.
[11:01] <dyrne> n-iCe: that is in gnome i believe your are in xfce correct?
[11:01] <dyrne> n-iCe: xubuntu?
[11:02] <n-iCe> yeah xubuntu
[11:02] <apocalypse> is there a program like hdtune for linux that can scan my hd for any errors or bad sectors?
[11:02] <eugman> rmd_, it there a way to be more efficiently like stuff I haven't used in a long time and/or stuff with no dependencies?
[11:02] <rmd_> n-iCe, there is network manager, then
[11:02] <rmd_> n-iCe, i mean network monitor
[11:02] <Slart> apocalypse: there's smartctl
[11:02] <rmd_> eugman, then just look at what is installed and decide if you need/want it
[11:02] <Slart> apocalypse: but I don't think I've seen anything using the ui.. smartctl is console based
[11:02] <kelsin> n-iCe: reading some of the ubuntu/xbuntu guides might help you more then asking millions of questions in here
[11:02] <GenNMX> Slart: Odd, I don't
[11:03] <royel> rmd_: well, don't see it there, I'll do some more googling ... thanks
[11:03] <spinster> darkcommon: DARKCOMMON WE NEED HELP FROM YOU
[11:03] <apocalypse> !smartctl
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartctl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Slart> GenNMX: I might have installed some package when I desperately tried to get oss and alsa to work together.. =)
[11:03] <kanamitnux> im using an nvidia geforce go 5200 and I believe the sound card is a sigma tel
[11:03] <rmd_> royel, you might have to access additional repositories.  have you enabled multiverse/universe/restricted?
[11:03] <Slart> !smartd
[11:04] <royel> rmd_: aye aye :)
[11:04] <apokryphos> what are you looking for?
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <atomik1> when ubuntu is booting up, at about half way it says something about checking file system... failed... please repair file system manualy
[11:04] <atomik1> what shall I do?
[11:04] <rmd_> royel, k, then yeah.  look around.  you could try a seach in Synaptic as a last ditch effort
[11:04] <Slart> !smartmontools
[11:04] <linxeh> teeL: how are you getting on ?
[11:04] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 620 kB
[11:04] <rmd_> atomik1, man fsck
[11:04] <atomik1> thanks rmd_.
[11:04] <apocalypse> Slart: thanks
[11:04] <Slart> apocalypse: you're welcome
[11:05] <n-iCe> Thank you very much guys
[11:05] <h1st0> Basically the option isn't availible on a network share iso vs. one that is on local hdd
[11:05] <spinster> people
[11:05] <spinster> hostname:~$ sudo apt-get audacious
[11:05] <spinster> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[11:05] <atomik1> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[11:05] <atomik1> SEVERE filesystem damage. <-- lol cool. SEVERE!!!!111oneoneone
[11:05] <h1st0> Anyone know why I would be able to right click and select "write to cd" on an ISO thats in my /home vs. one thats over a network share?
[11:05] <spinster> why i can't sudo ?
[11:05] <rmd_> atomik1, you should take that seriously.
[11:05] <quiet> audacious is only in feisty
[11:05] <atomik1> I guess I have to run fsck when it gets me to that maintenence terminal
[11:05] <atomik1> after it fails the filesystem check
[11:05] <erUSUL> atomik1: better from a livecd
[11:05] <linuxnewbie756> kelsin, how do i use tha, i copied that line on the page into a .sh file, chmoded it, and now what, how do i run it on all those folders recursively
[11:05] <rmd_> atomik1, you should boot from a livecd or rescue cd
[11:05] <atomik1> Do you really want to continue (y/n)? Y!!! Y Y Y Y YYYYYY!!!!!!!!
[11:06] <davidbr> Hello, I am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 5.x to 6.10 and was wondering if there was an apt-get command for that.
[11:06] <tobyr> Whoa
[11:06] <quiet> davidbr, apt-get DON'T
[11:06] <tobyr> Amarok rocks
[11:06] <tobyr> Podcasts :D
[11:06] <atomik1> DO I REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE AND CAUSE SEVERE DAMAGE??? HELL NO
[11:06] <erUSUL> ubotu tell davidbr about upgrade | davidbr see priv msg from ubotu
[11:06] <atomik1> okay seriously
[11:06] <rmd_> davidbr, that's probably a bad idea.
[11:06] <atomik1> thanks rmd_, ill do it from the livecd
[11:06] <rmd_> atomik1, good deal
[11:06] <SCanzt1> kraken??
[11:07] <SCanzt1> ok
[11:07] <SCanzt1> how can i enable dapper-backports and install Amarok
[11:07] <dyrne> davidbr: you might have to backup your home directory and reinstall. or maybe upgrade to hoary to breezy to dapper  step by step im not sure
[11:08] <davidbr> will do
[11:08] <teeL> linxeh: I have fixed it now. When i installed firestarter it started working again =P But now i have removed all the php and webserver apps. Can you recommed something thats easy to setup? Im just gonna show phpsysinfo =p
[11:09] <SCanzt1> im having trouble installing Amarok
[11:09] <kanamitnux> help?
[11:09] <TrollAndProud> OMG the users in #suse are assholes
[11:09] <rmd_> kanamitnux, what do you need?
[11:09] <rmd_> !language
[11:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:09] <kanamitnux> when I play games like neverball the sound cracks and pops
[11:09] <TrollAndProud> Just saying
[11:09] <kanamitnux> im using an nvidia geforce go 5200 and I believe the sound card is a sigma tel
[11:10] <TrollAndProud> no wonder they signed a deal with the devil
[11:10] <rmd_> kanamitnux, i thinky you're going to end up just dealing with it.  could be wrong, though.  hopefully someone else can help.
[11:11] <kanamitnux> oh
[11:11] <kanamitnux> thx
[11:12] <eyalw> will ubuntu/linux support my nVidia Quadro card?
[11:12] <erUSUL> ubotu tell eyalw about nvidia | eyalw see priv msg from ubotu
[11:13] <daraknor> how can I use /etc/inittab to launch an Xwindow application onto a display owned by another user? I tried su -c, DISPLAY, xhost, and a few other variations but I can't get anything to appear on the display.
[11:13] <kanamitnux> is there anyway to install ubuntu on a intel imac?
[11:13] <daraknor> (not even from commandline without using /etc/inittab
[11:13] <benn92649> OMG! 3 days of searching and i got it to work
[11:14] <rmd_> benn92649, what's that, then?
[11:14] <posingaspopular> daraknor: yes but you need an ubuntu mac cd
[11:14] <Whitepanda> need help installing drivers for ATI radeon mobility x1400 and setting screen res. to 1680x1050
[11:14] <eyalw> ubotu: tell eyalw about nvidia
[11:14] <eyalw> nvidia | eyalw
[11:14] <sticazzi> hello, II've installed Nomachine NX, however I can only boot into KDE (and not Gnome) and the fonts are crippled...
[11:14] <daraknor> posingaspopular, maybe that was for kanamitnux  regarding intel imac & ubuntu mac cd
[11:14] <benn92649> anyone know if you can play Guild Wars on LINUX
[11:14] <eyalw> will ubuntu/linux support my nVidia Quadro card?
[11:15] <sticazzi> The speed of it is Soooooooooooo much faster than VNC, though! Has anyone else run into my same problems?
[11:15] <erUSUL> !nvidia > eyalw
[11:15] <posingaspopular> daraknor: yes that was what i meant. i duno how that happened
[11:15] <erUSUL> !repeat > eyalw
[11:15] <WannabeNewbie> Can anyone tell me if Open Office works well on Ubuntu?
[11:15] <kanamitnux> posingaspopular: would you or anyone else here know where I could download that cd?
[11:15] <posingaspopular> !install
[11:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:15] <sticazzi> WannabeNewbie, it does
[11:15] <erUSUL> WannabeNewbie: yes it works well
[11:15] <benn92649> Open Office rules on Ubuntu
[11:15] <daraknor> WannabeNewbie, OO works fine on linux, but OO uses java :/
[11:15] <eyalw> erUSUL: ? will it
[11:16] <rmd_> WannabeNewbie, its just as god awful as the rest of the office platforms
[11:16] <Moniker42> "rotation" is blurred out in my screen resolution thing
[11:16] <Moniker42> how do i enable it?
[11:16] <Jowi> sticazzi, instead of connecting to the session, connect to the display manager so you can chose which environment you want to use (can't remember where I saw this)
[11:16] <linxeh> teeL: just install apache2, php5, mysql5 packages
[11:16] <spinster> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[11:16] <spinster> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[11:16] <spinster> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[11:16] <kanamitnux> thx
[11:16] <spinster> why i can't sudo ?
[11:16] <spinster> !!!!
[11:16] <Moniker42> or how do i rotate manually in xconf?
[11:16] <spinster> somebody knows that !?
[11:16] <root__> !atirx
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atirx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <benn92649> I spent 10 years in Microsoft this is a decidely strange change LOL
[11:16] <linxeh> teeL: although I'd not use mysql (personal choice)
[11:16] <WannabeNewbie> Ok, next question. If I download Ubuntu AMD64 will I be able to add window managers such as fluxbox and kde?
[11:16] <benn92649> but I dispise VISTA
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[11:16] <erUSUL> WannabeNewbie: yes
[11:16] <`nicola> suddendly ubuntu booted in 800x600. and in the display settings I can't set an higher resolution. any ideas ? thanks
[11:16] <posingaspopular> spinster: what are you trying
[11:16] <sticazzi> Jowi, how do I connect to the display manager?
[11:16] <posingaspopular> WannabeNewbie: yes
[11:16] <spinster> to install bitchx
[11:16] <spinster> sudo apt-get install bitchx
[11:16] <WannabeNewbie> Nice ok thanks you all, I appreciate it
[11:16] <posingaspopular> !x
[11:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:16] <spinster> i can't sudo :S
[11:17] <spinster> posingaspopular: the problem is my hostname
[11:17] <daraknor> benn92649, they finally added separation between user and system! too bad it doesn't work and people with 2Ghz machines can't reliably play music
[11:17] <posingaspopular> okay so what command(s) are you trying
[11:17] <benn92649> check  this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy it has everything you need to know about how to do everything with Ubuntu
[11:17] <posingaspopular> and what if anything have you  changed recently
[11:17] <kanamitnux> thanks everyone
[11:17] <HymnToLife> spinster, your hostname should match the entry for 127.0.0.1 in /Etc/hosts
[11:17] <Jowi> sticazzi, I will try to find the info for you. hang on.
[11:17] <spinster> look
[11:18] <spinster> r@hostname:~$ sudo apt-get install BitchX
[11:18] <spinster> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[11:18] <spinster> :S
[11:18] <Whitepanda> Can i get a 1680x1050 resolution with an ATI radeon mobility card?
[11:18] <teeL> linxeh: Ok, i have installed apache2 and php5 but not mysql. But last time i tried i couldnt figure out how to install phpsysinfo =p
[11:18] <HymnToLife> spinster, could you pastebin your /etc/hosts ?
[11:18] <spinster> HymnToLife: so i must edit the hostname ?
[11:18] <spinster> ok
[11:18] <spinster> wait
[11:18] <atomik1> !nvidia
[11:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <linxeh> teeL: it works here - sudo apt-get install phpsysinfo
[11:19] <spinster> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7995/
[11:19] <WannabeNewbie> Sorry to break in again, one more question! If I have Ubuntu 5.10 on a dvd already and install it, will I be able to upgrade thru it to the newest version or do I need to download and reinstall?
[11:19] <daraknor> why doesn't this work? DISPLAY=:0.0  su -c xeyes ian
[11:20] <spinster> HymnToLife: soo.. what is the problem ?
[11:20] <spinster> a
[11:20] <HymnToLife> spinster, see, the line for 127.0.0.1 doesn't match your current hostname
[11:20] <HymnToLife> that's why you can't sudo :)
[11:20] <spinster> HymnToLife: :) so how to edit that and what to set there ?
[11:20] <`nicola> suddendly ubuntu booted in 800x600. and in the display settings I can't set an higher resolution. any ideas ? thanks
[11:20] <teeL> linxeh: Ok that was easy. But when i try http://localhost it says i dont have permission to access /. And when i check /var/www there are no files there =\
[11:20] <HymnToLife> spinster, boot in recovery mode and change either one (be sure to check /etc/hostname too)
[11:21] <HymnToLife> /etc/hostname is only the value your hostname is set to at bootup
[11:21] <spinster> badwarrior@hostname:~$ cat /etc/hostname
[11:21] <spinster> hostname
[11:21] <spinster> badwarrior@hostname:~$
[11:21] <daraknor> argh... i think i figured something out. How can root launch x applications - even as another user is fine
[11:21] <spinster> '
[11:21] <spinster> thats all
[11:21] <spinster> :)
[11:21] <spinster> so.. ?
[11:21] <HymnToLife> so, what is the hostname you want ?
[11:21] <spinster> hostname: spinsters
[11:21] <spinster> is okay that ?
[11:21] <spinster> a
[11:21] <linuxnewbie756> I want all of my .rst files in lots of directories to be renames to .tab files. i would need it to be done recursively
[11:22] <spinster> HymnToLife: how to set that hostname now a ?
[11:22] <WannabeNewbie> Can I upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10 without downloading and burning a new cd? I have 5.10 on a DVD that came for free, I just wonder what it takes to update it to the newest.
[11:22] <bigjohntoday> how would I change a already existing groups GID and all files associated with that group
[11:22] <bigjohntoday> ?
[11:22] <dyrne> daraknor: using sudo or gksudo or do you mean launched as su - root ?
[11:22] <HymnToLife> spinster, you cannot set it now since you can't sudo
[11:22] <posingaspopular> !upgrade
[11:22] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:22] <HymnToLife> you'll have to boot in recovery mode
[11:22] <spinster> HymnToLife: o my god :(
[11:22] <spinster> HymnToLife: please tell me example, i don't know good english language
[11:22] <WannabeNewbie> thanks for the help
[11:22] <spinster> :)
[11:23] <bigjohntoday> Please Help: how would I change a already existing groups GID and all files associated with that group?
[11:23] <daraknor> dyrne, i used su -c, i'll try sudo or gksudo
[11:23] <HymnToLife> spinster, when you reboot at the GRUB menu choose recovery mode
[11:23] <spinster> HymnToLife: where to go now ?
[11:23] <spinster> a
[11:23] <benn92649> can some one send me the exact code to get rid of Firefox and how to install Opera in its place i am running Ubuntu 6.10 with firefox and I hate them
[11:24] <jrib> !opera | benn92649
[11:24] <ubotu> benn92649: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:24] <Vigo> Grub will fix the MBR?
[11:24] <spinster> HymnToLife: please can you help me ?
[11:24] <bigjohntoday> so no one knows the answer to my question?
[11:24] <jrib> benn92649: I wouldn't recommend removing firefox as other things depend on it, just make opera default and leave firefox
[11:24] <spinster> jrib: can you help me about sudo ?
[11:24] <spinster> a
[11:25] <daraknor> dyrne, a normal user gets a crash on .Xauthority for gksudo, but root simply has "cannot open display" - same error as anything else.
[11:25] <benn92649> what does free only as in price mean
[11:25] <HymnToLife> spinster, when you start your computer, you should have something like this : http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1682/grub4kt.jpg
[11:25] <jrib> spinster: what's the question?
[11:25] <dcomsa> benn92649: no source code
[11:25] <daraknor> benn92649, it means you can't modify, extend, or have other freedoms with it
[11:25] <spinster> HymnToLife: so i will go there and then ?
[11:25] <HymnToLife> spinster, you choose "recovery mode"
[11:25] <spinster> HymnToLife: to i restartt my pc ?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> jrib: can't sudo because hostnames dont match is spinster's problem
[11:25] <spinster> ok ko
[11:25] <spinster> ok ok
[11:25] <spinster> wait
[11:25] <HymnToLife> that will give you a root prompt
[11:25] <spinster> brb...
[11:26] <benn92649> oh but it will let me watch all videos right? i cant watch any flash or macromedia with stupid firefox
[11:26] <jrib> benn92649: well we can try to help you with that
[11:26] <dcomsa> benn92649: that's the only reason?
[11:26] <benn92649> i'm running Ubuntu X64 6.10
[11:26] <benn92649> do you need my kernel#
[11:26] <posingaspopular> benn92649: it means you cant edit the source code
[11:26] <linuxnewbie756> benn92649, you need to install flash plugins, it is easy.
[11:27] <posingaspopular> benn92649: no we dont need the kernel number
[11:27] <benn92649> so its not a real open sourfce
[11:27] <Vigo> I am going to try that. Thank you
[11:27] <benn92649> *source
[11:27] <jrib> benn92649: if you are really into videos, flash, and multimedia, running 32bit ubuntu would make things a lot easier
[11:27] <JamesG> I must be missing this somewhere on the site, but where can I download Feisty?
[11:27] <linuxnewbie756> benn92649, click the install plugin button, when it says failed, do manual.
[11:27] <daraknor> dyrne, my end goal is to have an X application restarted if it fails. I was thinking of using /etc/inittab for this, but I can't seem to get root to publish anything. If gconf or another tools allows autorestart of X apps, i'll use that instead...
[11:27] <linuxnewbie756> benn92649, then download the tar.gz file, extract it, and then copy the two .so files to your firefox plugins folder
[11:27] <benn92649> yeah but i'm afraid to switch it took me 24 hours of no sleep getting this one going LOL
[11:27] <JamesG> Never mind, found it
[11:27] <benn92649> damn I love LINUX
[11:28] <jrib> JamesG: you realize feisty is under development and bound to break on occasion?
[11:28] <dyrne> daraknor: well for root id do as the user "xhost +127.0.0.1"  then as root export DISPLAY=whatever. but to just launch things as user i do su - username -c "command" you have enabled root account correct?
[11:28] <Gartral> does anyone know how to get a canon easyshare one camera working in ubuntu?
[11:28] <dyrne> daraknor: sorry typed that before i read last post
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> JamesG: feisty talk in #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <JamesG> jrib: Yes
[11:28] <JamesG> tonyyarusso: Oh cool, thanks
[11:28] <benn92649> is there a way to migrate to the X32 version? and what are the benefits?
[11:28] <daraknor> dyrne, np. I can get other users to pop up x apps, but not root... I'm pretty sure it is a 'safety feature' of some kind
[11:29] <daraknor> dyrne, I don't even want 'root user' to execute... i  just want the X app up ALL of the time.
[11:29] <Gartral> its a still pic digital camera
[11:29] <benn92649> for anyone who is interested the X64 is IMHO wicked fast
[11:29] <spinster> HymnToLife: i am not on recovery mode what ever and what now ?
[11:29] <spinster> a
[11:30] <dyrne> daraknor: the respawn in inittab does not work?
[11:30] <ph8> Gartral: You'll have to define work? Doesn't it appear as a usb disk when you plug it in?
[11:30] <daraknor> benn92649, benefit is more software in native mode... but no software in 32bit mode. that means using i386 compiled code
[11:30] <spinster> HymnToLife: tell me how to change the hostmask :)
[11:30] <daraknor> dyrne, I assume it would if root could launch x apps, but it can't.
[11:30] <Gartral> no, its an ip/ftp camera
[11:31] <spinster> HymnToLife: ?????????
[11:31] <benn92649> can you explain im a Windows spolied brat and have no idea about coes
[11:31] <Gartral> it uses an sd card
[11:31] <dyrne> daraknor: root account is enabled? you can su to root?
[11:31] <benn92649> *codes
[11:31] <h1st0> Why would ubuntu care wethere a file is local or on a mounted network share?
[11:31] <spinster> jrib: how i can change my hostname ?
[11:31] <spinster> a
[11:31] <benn92649> Ubuntu rules
[11:31] <spinster> with what commands in terminal ?
[11:31] <jrib> !hostname | spinster
[11:32] <ubotu> spinster: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[11:32] <benn92649> it really is quite simple and user friendly
[11:32] <dyrne> h1st0: what was the problem? nautilus handling file diff over samba share?
[11:32] <benn92649> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy is the best guide to using Ubuntu I have found
[11:32] <h1st0> dyrne: yeah
[11:32] <SpudDogg> benn92649, you will see that ubuntu is cool.  don't get too used to things going so easy though.  the more in-depth you get the harder it gets
[11:33] <benn92649> lol
[11:33] <HymnToLife> spinster, edit /atc/hostname and /etc/hosts accordingly
[11:33] <Gartral> the only way ubuntu could be better is if it were built around SuSe code
[11:33] <h1st0> dyrne: Like if I have an iso local I can right click on it and select write to disc.  But if its over a mounted samaba share there is no option to write to disc.
[11:33] <daraknor> dyrne, i did su - to root. Yes, root is enabled. I assumed inittab would have a similar environment to UID 0. I'm even writing a shell script to make sure I have certain features enabled, but no matter what, I can't drop privledge levels and have any uid 0 parent process spawn a child with X app.
[11:33] <HymnToLife> btw, there's a slight mistake in that factoid
[11:33] <dyrne> h1st0: i think thats a known limitation. like preview and such not working
[11:33] <SpudDogg> benn92649, are you new to linux?
[11:33] <compengi> if i copied ubuntu disk to my hard drive, if i booted to the DOS with startup disk, can i launch the installation?
[11:33] <jrib> HymnToLife: which one?
[11:33] <h1st0> dyrne: hrm... So the only option would be to install some sort of burning application.
[11:34] <Linux_Junkie> i used ubuntu for 64 bit processor and wasn't very happy.
[11:34] <PriceChild> HymnToLife, msg me the factoid and the mistake please
[11:34] <eudy> .......alguien sabe espaol
[11:34] <jrib> !es | eudy
[11:34] <ubotu> eudy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:34] <HymnToLife> jrib, /etc/hosts needs to match the current hostname, which is not necessarily the one in /etc/hostname
[11:34] <Linux_Junkie> getting wireless to work was horrible
[11:34] <mlcalav> you can always tell ubotu "no, x is ..."
[11:34] <eudy> ok
[11:34] <benn92649> well i have the 64 and other than stupid loser Firefox it runs tops
[11:34] <Nergar> how can i know whats my sound device??
[11:34] <daraknor> benn92649, 32 bit mode would be more compatible with software, but slower becuase you have i386 code instead of x86-64 code
[11:34] <Linux_Junkie> Nergar, lspci
[11:34] <acid_phyre> !ntfs
[11:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:34] <PriceChild> HymnToLife, ah so it is really true... you're just being pedantic? :P
[11:34] <benn92649> oh, now that i understand
[11:34] <daraknor> benn92649, Firefox is fine, the plugins are the issue
[11:35] <benn92649> yes, true*sorry for the fire fox dis
[11:35] <Nergar> Linux_Junkie, i neet to know where is "mounted" /dev/xxx
[11:35] <HymnToLife> PriceChild, oh yeah ? So what if I use the hostname command to change my hostname temporarily ?
[11:35] <HymnToLife> blam, no sudo
[11:35] <spinserr> jrib: look now
[11:35] <spinserr>  hostname linuxsecurity
[11:35] <spinserr> hostname: you must be root to change the host name
[11:35] <spinserr> badwarrior@hostname:~$ sudo hostname linuxsecurity
[11:35] <spinserr> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[11:35] <spinserr> i can't sudo
[11:35] <spinserr> :S
[11:35] <spinserr> !hostname | spinserr
[11:36] <spinserr> its me spinster
[11:36] <benn92649> can some let me know if the newest version of wine is 64 compatible?
[11:36] <up365> Nergar, aplay -l
[11:36] <daraknor> benn92649, what we really need is an open source version of Flash, etc so we can compile them into 64 bit mode ourselves instead of waiting for annoying vendors :/
[11:36] <jrib> !paste | spinserr
[11:36] <ubotu> spinserr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:36] <PriceChild> HymnToLife, Yup I understand :)
[11:36] <spinserr> jrib: sorry but i paste on the channel :S
[11:36] <jrib> spinserr: what do /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts look like now?
[11:36] <Gartral> it is, but you have to get it from winehq
[11:36] <PriceChild> HymnToLife, If you could suggest a better bit of wording for the factoid then I'll change it?
[11:36] <HymnToLife> spinserr, as I told you, edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname accordingly then reboot
[11:36] <benn92649> AMEN! Daraknor
[11:36] <spinserr> jrib: can i make to sudo works ?
[11:37] <Linux_Junkie> spinserr,  use visudo
[11:37] <Linux_Junkie> Spinn4ker, to edit the conf file
[11:37] <jrib> spinserr: sure, but you need to do what HymnToLife said.  If you aren't sure of what to do then show us the contents of /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[11:37] <atomik1> Wheres the script that ubuntu generates to auto mount?
[11:37] <SpudDogg> !mp3 > SpudDogg
[11:37] <Nergar> sorry Linux_Junkie
[11:37] <atomik1> and also, how do i make new startup scripts?
[11:37] <daraknor> atomik1, check /etc/init.d
[11:37] <benn92649> I still want to know if Wine's new version is going to work with my Unbuntu X64
[11:37] <Nergar> up365, it doesn't say anything about /dev/
[11:37] <spinserr> JRIB PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO GO TO MAKE SUDO TO WORKS PLEASE !
[11:37] <Gartral> IT WILL
[11:38] <daraknor> benn92649, there is a 64 bit version of wine, but i don'tknow the details. some people reported it working
[11:38] <jrib> spinserr: join us in #ubuntu-classroom
[11:38] <HymnToLife> PriceChild, done :)
[11:38] <spinserr> ok
[11:38] <benn92649> does anyone here play online games with LINUX?
[11:38] <psycose> hi, i'm on edgy up to date but my kernel is  2.6.17-11-generic but i don't find the 2.6.17-11-k7 (for AMD) is this normal ?
[11:38] <atomik1> benn92649: yes, enemy territory
[11:38] <atomik1> and I think quake works with linux as well
[11:38] <atomik1> and unreal tornament
[11:38] <benn92649> what about Guild Wars
[11:38] <Gartral> benn92649: there *is* a 64 bit version, but you need to compile it manually, its not in the repository sections
[11:38] <up365> Nergar, you typed that in terminal and it didnt list soundcards?
[11:39] <atomik1> !wine | benn92649
[11:39] <ubotu> benn92649: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:39] <daraknor> benn92649, check Planeshift.it worldforge.org and buildaworld.net
[11:39] <benn92649> on, well i guess posing as popular was right I need to go X32
[11:39] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell psycose about generic | psycose, see the private message from ubotu.
[11:39] <benn92649> k
[11:39] <Nergar> it works up365 but i need to know the /dev/xxx location of the soundcard
[11:40] <Evil_`> When I try to move a file to a certain area, it says 'You don't have permissions to write to this folder' how do I fix that?
[11:40] <daraknor> does anyone know a way (including gconf) to get an X app to respawn if it is closed? I'm thinking I might need a python script :/
[11:40] <daraknor> Evil_`, sudo mv file somedir/file
[11:40] <harry> Whenever I put my SD card into the reader, it pops up the "photo import" window, and I click "always perform this action" and "ignore", but it keeps popping up...
[11:40] <Evil_`> k, thanks
[11:41] <student> hello all
[11:41] <fosforo_> pryv
[11:41] <benn92649> well off to the gym, I am really glad I got the IRC going you guys are wonderful.  when I come back maybe you can walk me thru the install of wine O:-)
[11:41] <up365> Nergar, maybe you should try device manager from system-preferences
[11:42] <tunganet> How do i put the application i want to run on Application->wine -> programs?
[11:42] <atomik1> I have a script here that needs to be run as root as soon as ubuntu boots up. how do i do it?
[11:42] <psycose> great thanks HymnToLife
[11:43] <daraknor> atomik1, /etc/init.d/ or /etc/inittab if you want respawn
[11:43] <atomik1> respawn?
[11:43] <royel> whats the command to create an additional sudo user?
[11:43] <posingaspopular> sudo adduser
[11:43] <posingaspopular> iirc
[11:43] <tunganet> How do i put the application i want to run on Application->wine -> programs?
[11:43] <asdf25> that's how to add a user
[11:43] <atomik1> daraknor: So I just put my chmodded +x file in the /etc/init.d/?
[11:43] <daraknor> royel, you need to edit group permissions
[11:43] <royel> !root
[11:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:43] <dyrne> royel: gksudo gedit /etc/group   and add thier name to the admin group.  there are a number of ways to do that
[11:44] <tunganet> can anyone help =\
[11:44] <Slart> tunganet: I'm interested in this too.. perhaps something in the registry? (regedit)
[11:44] <tunganet> :o
[11:44] <r4nge> is there any command to list all users (onlien and offline) along with which group they are in, and other info
[11:44] <atomik1> linux has a registry???
[11:44] <tunganet> you know what i am asking though right? ;)
[11:44] <daraknor> atomik1, yes, then you link to it from a runlevel. ln -s /etc/init.d/myfile /etc/rc3.d/S99myfile
[11:44] <Linux_Junkie> r4nge,  try who and groups <username>
[11:44] <atomik1> atomiku@atomiku:/etc/init.d$ regedit
[11:44] <atomik1> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/etc/init.d', starting in the Windows directory. <-- lol
[11:44] <Slart> atomik1: wine has one =)
[11:44] <atomik1> yeah
[11:44] <atomik1> just realised ^_^
[11:44] <asdf25> tunganet: can't you get into a menu editor by right-clicking the menu area?
[11:45] <atomik1> daraknor: Okay, i'll take a minute to understand what you said then i'll be right on it!
[11:45] <tunganet> um.. no
[11:45] <r4nge> who list current users online
[11:45] <r4nge> i was hoping for an admin command where i can see every account on the system
[11:45] <daraknor> atomik1, if you look in rc3.d and init.d inside /etc you should see what i mean....
[11:45] <daraknor> r4nge, cat /etc/user
[11:46] <dyrne> r4nge: cat /etc/passwd && cat /etc/group :)
[11:46] <root__> Cannot lock password file: already locked  how do i unlock it
[11:46] <harry> Whenever I put my SD card into the reader, it pops up the "photo import" window, and I click "always perform this action" and "ignore", but it keeps popping up...
[11:46] <daraknor> lol yeah... /etc/passwd.
[11:46] <Evil_`> is there anyway to just, make me able to move stuff in that folder?
[11:46] <houmala> I hav new video card. where are drivers for geforce 7699GS ??
[11:46] <Evil_`> instead of having to type sudo mv file dir/file
[11:46] <atomik1> daraknor: done.
[11:46] <daraknor> root__, you're probably using it twice
[11:46] <houmala> I hav new video card. where are drivers for geforce 7600GS
[11:46] <root__> ok tnx
[11:47] <atomik1> !nvidia | houmala
[11:47] <ubotu> houmala: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <dyrne> !nvidia | houmala
[11:47] <daraknor> atomik1, to test it, do telinit 3
[11:47] <atomik1> dyrne: snap ;)
[11:47] <atomik1> atomiku@atomiku:/etc/init.d$ sudo telinit 3
[11:47] <atomik1> atomiku@atomiku:/etc/init.d$
[11:47] <houmala> ok thanks
[11:48] <atomik1> well
[11:48] <atomik1> i think its time for some quality enemy territory'ing
[11:48] <Evil_`> When I try to move a file to a certain area, it says 'You don't have permissions to write to this folder', is there a way to make that dir let me move stuff and add sutff, instead of having to use sudo mv file dir/file
[11:48] <atomik1> thanks for the help
[11:48] <dyrne> atomik1: ever want to play a real game there's always tremulous :)
[11:48] <r4nge> there should be a who command that list offline users as well :/
[11:48] <atomik1> Tremulous eh
[11:49] <atomik1> pics or it didnt happen
[11:49] <daraknor> Evil_`, the alternative is to destroy all separation of privileges on the system, or change ownership of the folder. chown user.group -R foldername
[11:50] <f> some guy told me to type 'fixmbr' at a revovery place coz i cant get back to windows
[11:50] <root__> if i wanto to change the color of the terminal text with commands what do i do?, ie, text= green background black
[11:50] <f> now im really stuffed
[11:50] <f> how do i reverse that?
[11:50] <atomik1> wow
[11:50] <atomik1> tremulous looks good
[11:51] <atomik1> can I apt-get it?
[11:51] <daraknor> atomik1, yes, in universe
[11:52] <klinger> lastlog tremolous
[11:52] <daraknor> err... multiverse
[11:52] <klinger> oops
[11:52] <atomik1> daraknor: who what where
[11:52] <linxeh> atomik1: sorry, gf made me tidy up
[11:53] <linxeh> atomik1: you get it all working ?
[11:53] <atomik1> linxeh: pussy whipped
[11:53] <a_coward> I have two directories where each directory has different sets of newer files. How would I use rsync (not unison) to keep them synchronized?
[11:53] <atomik1> just jokin ;)
[11:53] <atomik1> yeah dude
[11:53] <atomik1> its all working fine now, thanks for your help
[11:53] <atomik1> much appreciated
[11:53] <pingpongboss> hey, is anyone here really good with VMware?
[11:53] <someothernick> !install
[11:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:53] <linxeh> heh
[11:53] <atomik1> !universe
[11:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:53] <linxeh> cool
[11:53] <atomik1> hmm
[11:53] <pingpongboss> i wanna set up a virtual machine with an existing windows xp installation
[11:53] <pingpongboss> cant get it to work T_T
[11:53] <atomik1> is tremulous online?
[11:53] <atomik1> must be
[11:54] <atomik1> Hey can quake3 run on linux?
[11:54] <root__> if i wanto to change the color of the terminal text with commands what do i do?, ie, text= green background black
[11:54] <lorenz_> hi guys
[11:54] <lorenz_> how do I delete a file via terminal?
[11:55] <lorenz_> cp is copying, mv move - but what is delete?
[11:55] <pingpongboss> lorenz_, i believe it's rm
[11:55] <poolie> lorenz_: rm
[11:55] <lorenz_> thank you!
[11:55] <jrib> !cli | lorenz_
[11:55] <ubotu> lorenz_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:55] <poolie> for 'remove'
[11:55] <daraknor> root__, check out colors inside .bashrc
[11:55] <ohir> pingpongboss check vmware siete, there is tool to convert hd to virtual hd. Personally don't know if it does work with xp.
[11:55] <ohir> s/siete/site/
[11:55] <pingpongboss> ohir, i have limited disk space, so i dont want to make another 60 gig hd :x
[11:56] <Fred_Sambo> hi, what does a green dot next to your name mean in Xchat IRC?
[11:56] <ohir> pingpongboss setup it on virtual hd then
[11:57] <linxeh> any idea why beryl would crash when started on a radeon x300 ?
[11:57] <linxeh> ignore me
[11:57] <linxeh> I know why
[11:57] <pingpongboss> ohir, i'm not quite sure what you mean
[11:57] <poolie> Fred_Sambo: maybe that you're a channel operator?
[11:57] <pingpongboss> ohir, i tried to point vmware server to the actual harddrive where windows xp is on
[11:57] <Fred_Sambo> Oh cool
[11:57] <root__> .bashrc would be under /sbin/ ?
[11:58] <pingpongboss> ohir, read some tutorials saying i have to make another hardware profile and stuff
[11:58] <Fred_Sambo> poolie: thanks!
[11:58] <linxeh> brb
[11:58] <linxeh> exit
[11:58] <pingpongboss> ohir, but i still get the BSOD when i boot up windows virtually
[11:58] <daraknor> *sigh* any suggestions on where i can go to get the app respawning working?
[11:58] <root__> .bashrc would be under /sbin/
[11:59] <waffles_> Hey, newbie here, how do I create a folder in my /mnt dir so I can mount a harddrive there?
[11:59] <jrib> waffles_: sudo mkdir /mnt/NAME_OF_DIRECTORY
[11:59] <posingaspopular> !mount
[11:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:59] <ohir> pingpongboss do new vm then fresh install from cd. Excuse me, EOT for now: this is ubuntu chan.
[12:00] <poolie> root__: .bashrc shouldn't be in /sbin, but rather in the user's homedir
[12:00] <atomik1> why is it that all the torrent clients ive tried for linux suck and are really slow
[12:00] <yomm> jrib : does it matter to use /mnt ?
[12:00] <pingpongboss> ohir, i guess that's the only thing i can do. I only have like 3 gigs i can use for another vm :(
[12:00] <atomik1> 5kb/s in _____ for linux when on the same torrent I get like 250kb/s on utorrent on windoze
[12:00] <jrib> yomm: you can use anything you want but /mnt or /media are the usual locations
[12:00] <poolie> atomik1: probably network or firewall things rather than linux