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maxamilliongrazie: lol12:26
maxamillionlinks2 ;)12:26
yaccini dont like opera ^^12:26
hyper_chgrazie: but if you follow your dogma of being light then you should use lynx... :)12:26
maxamillionyaccin: me either ... i use firefox because i can't find one i like better12:26
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graziehyper_ch: no dogma here12:26
yaccini love konqueror12:26
yaccinfirefox comes second12:27
hyper_chfor the same reasons I use a lot of kde appz because the rest just doesn't compare12:27
yaccin:D12:27
hyper_chkonqui is really great... I love the split view thing :)12:27
yaccinhyper_ch: yes, kde is so great :) i cant wait for KDE 4 :D12:27
grazieI quite like dillo though12:27
hyper_chI not only have a 2-pane manager but multi-pane one12:27
skywalkerI like kde too this is as much of the Gnome I ever used12:27
graziePGraves: most sound problem are due to mixer. Have you checked?12:28
PGravescan anyone help me get sound on my new Ubuntu install?12:28
hyper_chand of course fish:// with kate is also nice12:28
yaccini tried dolhpin, and i also like it, but its not as good as konqueror atm12:28
yaccinbut it has some nice features :)12:28
PGravesgrazie, I am a complete novice... I have checked some things that google listed, but I can't say definitively that I've checked anything correctly12:28
hyper_chanyway, I'm off to bed... thx maxamillion for helping with the tax thingy12:28
yaccinand i dont like gaim, because kopete is so much better :)12:28
grazienite hyper_ch12:28
yaccingnight12:29
yaccinbrb12:29
graziePGraves: can you open a terminal?12:29
PGravesyes12:29
skywalkerI benn useing Mozzila12:29
PGravesopen12:29
skywalkerbeen*12:29
graziePGraves: type in 'alsamixer'12:30
PGravesgrazie, can I message you in private? (to avoid flooding this room)12:30
PGravesshould I do that as the current user or root?12:30
graziePGraves: user should be fine12:30
graziePGraves: ok?12:31
skywalkersndconfig12:32
skywalkerdont work12:32
graziePGraves: do any of the channels have MM at the bottom? Particularly the Master and PCM?12:32
PGravesalsamixer is up12:32
PGravesMaster Mono says MM12:32
PGravesSurround says MM12:33
PGravesCenter says MM12:33
PGravesLFE says MM12:33
PGravesLine says MM12:33
PGravesMic says MM12:33
graziePGraves: ok stop12:33
PGravesk12:33
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skywalkeralsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device12:33
grazieskywalker: hang on momemtn12:33
skywalker:-)12:33
skywalkerits alright12:34
skywalkerI ahve no output12:34
skywalkerhave*12:34
graziePGraves: you can use the arrow key to move to different channels12:34
graziePGraves: on master enter m12:34
PGravesI did that and it changed the description at the top to say "Master[Off] "  it did just say "Master"12:35
graziePGraves: that should probably do it. What sound card do you have...it should say at the top12:36
PGravesCard: Intel ICH12:37
PGravesChip: Realtek ALC655 rev 012:37
graziePGraves: OK. Don't exit and play a media file with another app12:38
PGravesby default, a Wav should be able to be played correct?12:38
graziePGraves: usually yes12:39
graziePGraves: there's a load of media files in the example directory of your home folder12:40
PGravesTotem says I need a decoder to play a Wav file12:40
graziePGraves: look in the examples folder for ogg files12:41
PGravesI opened an ogg file12:41
graziesound?12:41
PGravesit acts like its playing, but I dont hear anything12:41
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Darkkishuhhh12:41
Darkkishwhat is mped?12:41
Darkkishbecause i just accedentally installed it with apt-get12:42
graziePGraves: all you sound hardware works?12:45
maxamillion!mped | Darkkish12:45
ubotudarkkish: mped: Minimum Profit, a programmer's text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.17-1 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 436 kB12:45
Darkkishlol12:45
Darkkishwell thats not so bad :p12:45
maxamillion:)12:45
PGravesI have a brand new motherboard with onboard sound and I have tested the speakers on another computer12:45
maxamillionDarkkish: worst case ... just remove it ;)12:45
Darkkishso i compiled and installed the mpd client plugin for the xfce panel12:45
Darkkishbut when i mouse over it (like to press a button) it dissapears off the panel...12:45
graziePGraves: list all the channel that have mm at the bottom after mic12:45
Darkkishany idea why?12:45
maxamillionDarkkish: uhmmm ... not a clue, but that sounds like quote the bug12:45
Darkkishwhats that?12:45
Darkkishoh quite12:45
Darkkishyes12:45
Darkkishits irritating.12:45
Darkkishalso12:45
Darkkishwavelan12:45
Darkkishwont detect my wifi device...12:45
Darkkisheven though i'm using it to connect to the internet12:45
maxamillionDarkkish: what is wavelan?12:48
PGravesMic Boos, Phone, Aux, Duplicat12:48
graziePGraves: what number is above master and pcm?12:48
PGravesMaster is 7712:48
Darkkish!wavelan12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wavelan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
PGravesPCM is 8412:48
Darkkish!xfce4-wavelan-plugin12:48
Darkkish...12:48
ubotuxfce4-wavelan-plugin: wavelan status plugin for the Xfce4 panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 140 kB, installed size 668 kB12:48
Darkkishthere12:48
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DarkkishWritten by Benedikt Meurer, this plugin is used to display stats from a wireless lan interface (signal state, signal quality, network name (SSID)). It supports NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Linux.12:48
graziePGraves: well the sound driver is installed and mixer looks good12:49
graziePGraves: all I can suggest is working through the troubleshooting guide12:49
grazie!sound | PGraves12:49
ubotuPGraves: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:49
graziemaxamillion: I think I upset hyper12:55
maxamilliongrazie: how so?12:59
graziemaxamillion: kde apps12:59
Darkkishso nobody knows why i'm getting the error with xfce4-mpc-plugin ?12:59
maxamilliongrazie: come to -offtopic real quick please12:59
Darkkish!xfce4-mpc-plugin12:59
PGravesGrazie, could it have anything to do with the fact that I installed teh AMD64 version of Ubuntu?12:59
Darkkish>_<12:59
graziePGraves: you have AMD64 then?12:59
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Dylan_More help needed.12:59
Dylan_I burned the disk, it was working, but i got to the partitioning harddrive part, and it won't work.01:00
PGravesyes01:00
graziePGraves: could be that setting up an AMD64 alsa driver is more problematic01:05
graziesomeone here may know... maxamillion?01:05
maxamillionwhat's up?01:05
maxamillionsorry ... i was configing a server01:05
graziemaxamillion: is setting up alsa on amd64 problematic do you know?01:05
Darkkishis your xubuntu 32 bit?01:05
Darkkish!ping01:05
ubotupong01:05
maxamillioni have both 64 and 32 bit running01:05
maxamilliongrazie: not at all01:05
maxamilliongrazie: well ... not for me01:05
graziePGraves: dunno01:06
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PGravesbrb01:09
maxamillionhad a terminal freeze on me so i thought i would Xkill it ... but then it fragged all my other term windows, so irssi went bye bye :(01:09
Darkkishmaxamillion why wouldn't my xfce app recognize my wifi card even when i have it set to eth1 (my working broadcom wifi card)01:12
maxamillionDarkkish: you need wifi-radar01:12
maxamillionsudo aptitude install wifi-radar01:13
maxamillion!wifi-radar | Darkkish01:13
ubotudarkkish: wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB01:13
Darkkishuh.. k01:13
Darkkishdoes it show in the sys tray?01:13
maxamillionDarkkish: no ... you would need network-manager-gnome for that01:14
Darkkish!network-manager-gnome | Darkkish01:14
maxamillionDarkkish: and then add nm-applet to your auto started applications01:14
Darkkishnm-applet?01:14
maxamillionDarkkish: yeah ... its the panel plugin for network-manager-gnome01:15
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Darkkishk01:15
Darkkish!nm-applet01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
PGravesI went through the troubleshooting guide... anyone else have any ideas for not having sound on a FRESH install of Ubuntu 6.01 AMD64?01:15
DarkkishPGraves i had that problem01:16
Darkkishbut...01:16
Darkkishonly inside of wine01:16
Darkkishother than that my sound worked fine01:16
Darkkishwhat kind of mobo do you have?01:16
PGravesI cant play sound in anything01:16
PGravesits a Biostar GeForce 6100 AM2 Motherboard with an nForce 410 chipset01:17
Darkkishinteresting01:17
Darkkishi have no idea, but it might be related to nforce01:17
DarkkishMagicFab i can't find nm-applet01:18
Darkkishmaxamillion*01:19
maxamillionDarkkish: did you install network-manager-gnome?01:19
Darkkishyes01:21
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graziePGraves: have you updated the software since installation?01:21
maxamillionDarkkish: Alt+F2 and enter nm-applet01:21
Darkkishi can run it, but i don't see anything01:21
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Lars_GAre there no "official" debs for 4.4.0 ?01:21
PGravesno i have not installed any updates to anything except kde01:21
Darkkishk maxamillion now what?01:22
grazieLars_G: nothing for edgy that I know of01:22
Lars_Ggratzie grazie01:22
maxamillionDarkkish: did it show up in the panel?01:22
Darkkishum i don't see it anywhere...01:22
graziePGraves: sound works on kubuntu?01:22
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maxamillionDarkkish: hmmm... lemme get you a link01:23
maxamillionDarkkish: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23917801:28
PGravesno01:30
PGravessound doesnt work in gnome or kde01:30
maxamillionPGraves: you tried edgy by any chance?01:32
Darkkishmaxamillion it appears to have worked... except it just auto logged out01:34
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maxamillionDarkkish: that's different01:35
Darkkishmaxamillion yeah according to this it could be related to a number of things.. including low diskspace (not likely) or program malfunctions01:36
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maxamillion:(01:36
PGravesIm going to go try a different motherboard CPU, & Memory01:37
yaccinwhat was that mediaplayer like amarok called? ^^01:37
PGraves:) It helps that I run a computer shop :)01:37
maxamillionPGraves: well that's conventient :)01:37
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maxamillionyaccin: its on the tip of my thought process i just cant remember ... gimme a min.01:38
Darkkishmaxamillion how do i log out of an xterm console?01:38
Darkkishnvm01:38
Darkkish'exit'01:38
PGravesCan I just Move the hard drive to the other setup, or will I have to reinstall the OS like I would in Windows if I replaced teh Motherboard01:38
yaccinsomething like exile?01:38
Darkkishi seem to have fixed it except... i have 3 instances of that program in my task bar01:38
Darkkish>_>01:39
maxamillionDarkkish: :(01:39
Darkkishoh well01:39
Darkkishi know how to fix that.01:39
maxamillionPGraves: uhmmm... not sure, try it out and see01:39
yaccinhmm does xfce use gtk1? o.O01:39
maxamillionyaccin: no01:39
yaccinhmm01:39
maxamilliongtk201:39
yaccinthis gtk-theme looks kinda ugly01:39
yaccinnot like it should01:39
yaccin:(01:39
maxamillionwhich one?01:40
yaccinvistabut01:40
yaccin(yes, i know) :D01:40
maxamillion.....01:40
yaccinremembered that mediaplayer? ^^01:41
maxamillionworkin on it .... :/01:42
yaccin:)01:42
maxamillionyaccin: http://www.exaile.org/trac <---?01:43
yaccinah thx01:43
yaccin:)01:43
maxamillion;)01:43
yaccinso any clues with fixing that theme? ^^01:45
maxamillionyaccin: not really .... i don't do much theme stuffs01:45
BFTDwhere's the ubuntu checksum?01:46
BFTDargh01:46
maxamillionlol01:46
Darkkishalso when i restarted my internet connection stopped working >_> well.. really i just can't connect to my router...01:48
graziePGraves: you can just the move the hard drive. you may have a few driver issues, but you can sort all that out with the live cd01:49
maxamillionDarkkish: sudo dhclient01:49
Darkkishwell... i think the connection is fine01:50
DarkkishI just can't connect01:50
Darkkishto my router >.<01:50
maxamillion:(01:50
yaccinhmm i get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0" but it is installed :(01:52
maxamillion....?01:54
yaccinwhen i try to install exaile01:55
maxamillionoh ... hmmm01:55
maxamillioni dunno, i use xmms myself01:55
yaccin:/01:55
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Darkkishmaxamillion i got wifi working again01:58
Darkkishbut networkmanager says "No network connection"01:58
maxamillion:(01:58
maxamillioni dunno to be honest01:58
maxamillioni gotta run, getting off work01:58
Darkkishmk01:58
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Darkkishi hope when i go to work i can just sit around on IRC all day...02:00
yaccini do :D02:06
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jmichaelxi am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/02:25
Darkkishwhen i do alt + f1002:46
Darkkishalt f2 *02:46
Darkkishand type in synaptic02:46
Darkkishit says "starting without admin privs"02:46
Darkkishhow can i make it ask for the password on startup (w/o using sudo)02:46
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jmichaelxi am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/02:48
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Darkkishlalal02:55
skywalker!hey02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
Darkkish!synaptic02:56
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto02:56
skywalker!rpm02:56
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)02:56
skywalker!ATP02:56
ubotuatp: text to PostScript converter with some C syntax highlighting. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-11 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 96 kB02:56
grazieDarkkish: you have a problem running synaptic from the menu?02:57
Darkkishatp = adenocinetriphosphate02:57
Darkkishgrazie yeah from a custom menu02:57
Darkkishall i have for the command is "synaptic"02:58
grazieDarkkish: you need 'gksu synaptic'02:58
Darkkishand when it starts instead of prompting for a password it just says "running w/o admin privs"02:58
Darkkishgksu02:58
Darkkishthank you02:58
grazienp02:58
Darkkishgrazie thats exactly what i wanted02:59
skywalkerto run some programes you have to be in root wheir do I loggin to root?02:59
skywalkerfor the programe?02:59
Darkkishskywalker on the commandline?02:59
skywalker!no03:00
ubotuHvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!03:00
Darkkishrunning it from where?03:00
skywalkerhey Darkkish you use wine?03:01
skywalkerI like the new version03:01
Darkkishskywalker i used to03:02
Darkkishwhen i had linux on my main box03:02
Darkkishand played wow03:02
skywalkerI use paltalk to talk to some familey paltalk is the only windows programe I use03:03
Darkkishi see03:03
Darkkish!paltalk03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paltalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
Darkkishlol03:03
Darkkish!google03:03
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux03:03
Darkkishi've never heard of paltalk03:03
skywalkerand it works with the new version but it is styll buggy because I cant  send pm's03:03
Darkkishwhat i do know03:04
skywalkerbut it starts and everything I think Iam missing some DLL's or something like that Iam styll working on it03:04
Darkkishis that all of the paltalk servers run linux, and all of the clients run windows, that seems kind of rediculous03:04
skywalkeryes and all the people in the computer rooms are mean windows vista lovers03:05
skywalkerlol03:05
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Darkkishlol03:05
Darkkishvista is... Ok...03:05
Darkkishi havn't used it too much so far, but from what i have used, its all graphical and there is nothing that techincally impressive03:06
skywalkerwell Vista changed my digtial life03:06
grazieskywalker: swearing is not allowed on this channel03:07
skywalkerahhahaha03:08
Darkkishwhat?03:08
Darkkishoh lol03:08
grazievista = bad language03:08
Darkkishsorry i'm slow03:08
Darkkishwhy grazie are you afraid of it?03:09
graziei'm afraid of M$03:09
Darkkishlol03:09
atarinoxdoes anybody here have experience with Samba and accessing Windows shared folders on a LAN03:10
grazie!samba | atarinox03:11
ubotuatarinox: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:11
grazieatarinox: no use?03:11
Darkkishwhat is it?03:11
atarinoxgrazie: i'm on that tutorial now03:11
atarinoxi have a question about it though, if you can help....when they say: The Windows computer name is servername, this can be either an IP address or an assigned name....do they mean the actual shared folder name on the network, or the name of the workgroup itself, something like MSHOME03:13
grazieatarinox: I'm afraid I don't go near windows if at all possible....not much use to you03:14
atarinoxoh damn03:14
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Darkkishhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lW8ndh5BU&mode=related&search=03:14
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skywalkerme grazie Iam scared too I ran Xetra Problems and I felt like a dum a#$%s with the littel dog and everything03:16
skywalkerme to*03:16
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grazieDarkkish: v.good03:17
skywalkerI have to install the java runn time03:20
Darkkish!xfce4-mcd-panel03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mcd-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
Darkkish!xfce4-mdc-panel03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mdc-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
Darkkish...03:20
skywalkerbut I see the people's comments lol03:21
Darkkish!xfce4-mpd-panel03:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mpd-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:21
Darkkish!xfce4-mpc-panel03:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mpc-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:21
skywalker!kde03:21
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:21
Darkkishwtf03:21
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Darkkishoh03:23
Darkkish!xfce4-mpc-plugin03:23
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Darkkish!xfce4-mpc-plugin | grazie03:23
Darkkish!xfce4-mpd-plugin | grazie03:23
Darkkishcrap03:23
Darkkishflood protection or something03:23
Darkkish!xfce4-mpc-plugin03:24
Darkkishi swear that worked earlier.03:25
Darkkishgrazie have you heard of such a thing?03:25
Darkkishthe mpc plugin03:26
skywalker??03:26
grazieDarkkish: I know of it, yes03:26
Darkkishi can't get it to work03:27
Darkkishat all03:27
Darkkishi couldn't find it in the repository so i downloaded it and did ./configure and what not03:28
Darkkishand finally got it to show up on the add items to panel list03:28
Darkkishand i can add it to my panel03:28
Darkkishbut when i click close, and then mouse over it, it just dissapears off my panel03:28
Darkkishmaybe there is something better...03:29
grazieDarkkish: I don't use anything like that, but have you set up the server?03:30
PuMpErNiCkLeDarkkish: http://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-mpc-plugin/trunk/README has debugging/configuring options.03:30
DarkkishPuMpErNiCkLe thanks, how do i remove the current install?03:31
soweto76fixin to install on Dell Inspiron 2200 with 1.25 G RAM -- my wife's :( -- where is the best howto for dual boot with WinXPHome, please?03:31
Darkkishsoweto76 its really simple03:31
Darkkishyou just make sure to use the partition editor to create a seperate partition03:31
Darkkishthen it automatically installs grub for dualboot03:32
cellofellowsoweto76: install windows first03:32
PuMpErNiCkLeDarkkish: If you installed it via `make install`, then `make uninstall`.03:32
cellofellowthen linux normally03:32
soweto76Darkkish, I don't know anything about windows eh -- does it need to be prepared?03:33
cellofellowthat doesn't work with a lot of programs' makefiles.03:33
DarkkishPuMpErNiCkLe idk how to work make03:33
PuMpErNiCkLecellofellow: If it isn't supported, then it'll error.03:34
PuMpErNiCkLeDarkkish: cd to the directory you built it in, then run that command.03:34
cellofellowyeah, and then you're screwed03:34
PuMpErNiCkLeyeah03:34
Darkkishi deleted the files i used to build it03:35
Darkkishoh wait maybe not03:35
Darkkishthank you03:36
DarkkishPuMpErNiCkLe where is a good list of xfce4 panel plugins/addons03:38
Darkkish!plugins03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
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Darkkish!xfce4-plugin03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
PuMpErNiCkLehttp://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/start03:38
grazieDarkkish: what are you trying to achieve?03:39
soweto76Darkkish, xfce.org --> links03:40
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Darkkishdoes anyone use xfce4-applet?03:47
skywalkerDarkkish what can you do with xfce that you cant do with other desktop's03:49
atarinoxcan someone help me setup windows folder sharing in LAN with samba?03:51
soweto76Darkkish, I have used it.  What's up?03:52
soweto76skywalker, I really like xfwm403:52
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skywalker4?03:53
Darkkishsoweto76 does it work good?03:53
skywalkerI installed it but03:53
soweto76Darkkish, seems to be great but it uses gnome applets so you must have some installed eh.03:54
skywalker-get it03:54
skywalkerI will03:54
skywalker4?03:59
skywalkersoweto03:59
soweto76skywalker, ?? for what did I use xfce4-applet?04:00
skywalkeryou got me confused with Darkkish04:00
skywalkerhehe04:00
soweto76okeeleedokeelee04:01
skywalkeryou have to me say that04:01
soweto76skywalker, okeeleedokeelee04:02
skywalkerplease lets not04:02
skywalkerhahah04:02
soweto76:)04:02
skywalkerone thing I do, do well is joke04:03
skywalkerdod od04:03
soweto76:)04:03
skywalkeryou want to see04:03
skywalkeromg04:03
soweto76okeeleedokeelee04:03
skywalkerI wipe my sweaty balls with a paper towel04:04
skywalkeriam sorry04:04
skywalkerHAHAH04:04
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atarinoxhi can somebody plz help me get access to shared folders on this windows network?04:05
atarinoxi've got samba installed, now im stuck04:05
soweto76skywalker, No, I don't want to see!04:05
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skywalkerhooo I hope I dont have anymore problems because I wont get any help in here anymore and I wasent asking you to see it was asomething a wrote along time ago04:06
skywalkerI*04:07
Jester45??04:07
Jester45dont complain about bad help we are just users that want to give back to the community04:08
skywalkera joke* jester04:08
soweto76atarinox, linneighborhood or it's gtk fork04:08
skywalkerthe help in here is great Jester45 I wasent complaineing04:09
skywalker] 04:09
cellofellowpyNeighborhood doesn't work here. Only LinNeighborhood04:09
soweto76atarinox, Thunar does not have the old xfsamba.  Nautilus(gnome) works well with smb04:09
cellofellowI got ROX working with sshfs and a simple hack of the program would get it running with SMBFS too.04:10
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atarinoxsoweto76: i'm trying nautilus, can't get it to work04:13
Darkkishmy wifi plugin isn't working04:15
Darkkishwavelan04:16
Darkkish!xfce4-wavelan04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-wavelan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:16
Darkkish!xfce4-wavelan-plugin04:16
ubotuxfce4-wavelan-plugin: wavelan status plugin for the Xfce4 panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 140 kB, installed size 668 kB04:16
Darkkishdoes anyone know why wavelan isn't working?04:18
Darkkishits set to the right device but it says "No such WaveLAN device04:19
Darkkish"04:19
Jester45nope04:19
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Admiral_Chicagocan someone using edgy try to reproduce an issue?04:26
Admiral_Chicagoj1mc: the easy way of doing things :)04:26
j1mc:)04:26
Jester45i will try04:27
j1mcwe just want to see if it still says, "welcome to xubuntu 6.06" when you install edgy.04:27
j1mcit should say that in firefox.04:27
Jester45yes it does04:27
Jester45thats been known sence pre stable edgy04:27
Jester45going from drapper to edgy they didnt have the man power to change the docs04:28
Admiral_ChicagoJester45: care to comment on Bug #6796604:28
UbugtuMalone bug 67966 in xubuntu-docs "Xubuntu -- FIrefox home page still references 6.06" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6796604:28
Jester45only the package mangers could do thta but most didnt04:28
Admiral_Chicagodoes this on Feisty as well, or so j1mc says.04:28
Jester45Bug #104:28
UbugtuMalone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104:28
j1mcyeah, it says fixed, but i'm still seeing that when i install the nightlies.04:29
Admiral_Chicagoj1mc: to be fair fix commited means it is commited in the SVN, doesn't mean the SVN matcheds the nightlys04:29
j1mcright . . .04:29
j1mchow long does it take to get to the nightlies, though?04:30
Admiral_Chicagoespecially in Doc work. right now I am doing system settings for kubuntu that will be commited to the SVN, then ran through editing, then synced04:30
j1mcit's been shown as "fixed" for over a month or so.04:30
Admiral_Chicagoj1mc: not really sure, could ask richard in our channel04:30
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Jester45hehe im connected to a torrent with the swarm speed is about 700mb/s04:35
skywalkerI have a bunch of errors with this windows programe in wine04:35
Jester45many peers04:35
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Jester45skywalker: does it run many programs that i used had errors but ran good04:35
skywalkeriam trying to run paltalk to pm my brother and I cant pm him04:38
skywalkerits running iam online04:38
skywalkerbut this is it its the programe04:38
skywalkernot wine04:38
skywalkerfixme:richedit:RichEditANSIWndProc WM_STYLECHANGING: stub04:39
skywalkerI think I need this dll04:39
Jester45o sorryi meant does it run the program, many that i used had errors but ran fine04:40
skywalkeryea its running and Iam online but I cant send a pm or go into any rooms04:40
skywalkerI need to do rescerch04:41
skywalkeron the dll's04:41
Jester45you might need to add the dll04:41
skywalkerfixme:richedit:RichEditANSIWndProc WM_STYLECHANGING: stub04:41
skywalkerthis error is like 5 times04:42
skywalkerthis is the only windows programe I use04:42
skywalkerthat is it04:42
skywalkerI like the new kde alot04:43
Jester45are you using the newest wine or the one in the repoes04:43
skywalkernew est I think 3204:43
skywalkernewest(*04:43
skywalkerwine-0.9.3104:44
Jester45!wine04:44
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:44
Jester45!info wine04:45
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB04:45
Jester45heh newer than repo must be uptodate04:45
Jester45or at least closer04:45
skywalkeryea I got it this morning04:46
skywalkertheir is a good info on how to install it in ubuntu04:46
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[187ci] marcHello?04:47
Jester45hi?04:47
[187ci] marcCan you help me with something?04:47
Jester45i can try04:47
[187ci] marcI'll pm you04:47
[187ci] marcI can't04:48
[187ci] marccan you om me?04:48
[187ci] marcpm*04:48
Jester45you can ask in here04:49
cellofellowyou can't pm at all unless you do /msg nickserv register apassword04:49
Jester45good job04:49
[187ci] marcThanks04:50
Jester45[187ci] marc: try asking in the channel so others could anser if they know04:50
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[187ci] marcI installed xbuntu, and everything went fine. Till I had to login. I can login but few seconds later, I get back to the login panel05:18
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[187ci] marcI installed xbuntu, and everything went fine. Till I had to login. I can login but few seconds later, I get back to the login panel-Help?05:19
Jester45he can get into a failsafe terminal so... its xfce and it happens when he runs xfwm4 & xfdesktop & xfce4-panel05:19
cellofellowstill, may be X.05:20
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Jester45cellofellow: but the failsafe terminal uses x right05:20
cellofellowdoes it?05:20
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Jester45i think the gdm uses it05:21
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Jester45HAHAHHAHAHA: having fun changing names?05:21
Jester45or BFTD now05:22
BFTDits in another channel05:22
Jester45aka Commander-Crowe05:22
BFTDI've obtained ops05:22
BFTDbut I can only say 1 thing before i get banned05:22
BFTDbrb05:22
[187ci] marclol05:22
BFTDgotta switch05:22
[187ci] marcThats 3 things05:23
cellofellowJester45: affirmitive. It runs an Xterm. running xfwm4 & works fine.05:23
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Jester45cellofellow: i knew it was xterm05:23
cellofellowkk05:23
Jester45but he is having problems... it auto logs out05:23
cellofellowperhaps if he runs startxfce4 in the failsafe terminal thing.05:24
cellofellowbe able to debug it.05:24
[187ci] marconce I login, the desktop appears and everything, but 5 secs it loads back to login page05:24
Jester45but he gets loged out05:24
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cellofellowshouldn't do that in an xterm thingy05:25
Jester45tell him how to do it05:25
Jester45im doing a report05:25
[187ci] marc:P05:25
cellofellowopen a failsafe terminal session, and run the command `startxfce4`05:26
[187ci] marcok05:26
[187ci] marcit crashed again05:27
[187ci] marcbut05:27
cellofellowwhat'd it say?05:28
[187ci] marcin the consule it said, graphic something......0x5b05:28
[187ci] marcI could not read the whole thing05:28
[187ci] marcit disappeared too quickly05:28
Darkkishwhere are program icons located?05:29
cellofellowcan you still scrollback?05:29
[187ci] marcno05:29
[187ci] marcit goes back to login05:29
Jester45press pageup/down05:29
Jester45o05:29
cellofellowDarkkish: all over, usually /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/<themename>/<size>/apps05:29
[187ci] marc?05:30
PuMpErNiCkLe[187ci] marc: What video card are you using?05:30
Darkkishthanks cellofellow it was the 2nd one i was looking for05:30
[187ci] marcI have no clue, I built that junk a while ago. but it have onbord video card05:30
[187ci] marcmy mother board05:31
[187ci] marcbrb I'll check05:31
cellofellow[187ci] marc: do it again, but this time run the command `screen` before running the startxfce4. That will keep the terminal session alive for later inspection.05:31
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Darkkishexcept i can't find the open office icons05:32
cellofellowoh, umm, they're somewhere else. I think in the gnome or the hicolor themes.05:33
[187ci] marc3dfx ring a bell?05:33
PuMpErNiCkLeVoodoo card, then.05:34
[187ci] marcyes05:34
[187ci] marcjunk card05:34
[187ci] marc:)05:34
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PuMpErNiCkLeThat's a known issue - there's a bug report, and, apparently, a patch, although the patch hasn't made it into stable, I think.05:34
cellofellowlike I said, could be X doing it. :)05:34
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PuMpErNiCkLehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/6829105:35
UbugtuMalone bug 68291 in xorg "GDM Restarts after Desktop loads while using tdfx driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] 05:35
cellofellowdoes KDM do it?05:35
PuMpErNiCkLeUsing vesa instead of the 3dfx driver will let you use the GUI normally.05:35
PuMpErNiCkLecellofellow: Yeah.  It's a driver issue, not a login manager issue.05:35
BFTDwhat card does he have?05:36
[187ci] marcvoodoo05:36
Darkkishcellofellow can you help me find hte oo.org icons05:36
cellofellowk. one sec let me fire up catfish05:36
[187ci] marcI have a on board video, on the motherboard. Should I try that?05:36
BFTD[187ci] marc best thing to do is go to newegg.com and buy a really cheap nvidia card05:37
Jester45etc/share/applicatons/oo.deskop05:37
BFTDjsut nothing below GeForce 5's05:37
[187ci] marcI have the 8800GTx05:37
Jester45.desktop05:37
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Darkkish!catfish] 05:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about catfish]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
Darkkish!catfish05:37
BFTD0_005:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about catfish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
Jester45open with mousepad and you will find them05:37
BFTD[187ci] marc then whats your problem?05:37
[187ci] marcThats on my windows machine05:37
[187ci] marcnvm05:37
BFTDoh I see05:37
BFTDanyways05:37
BFTDsame advice05:38
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DarkkishJester45 that directory doesn't even exist05:38
cellofellowDarkkish: a search-engine frontend written by Kalikiana05:38
david__Items from my panel (dock) turned up missing. Anyone seen this before?05:38
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david__I can readd them, but I wonder what happened...05:38
H264Hi05:39
cellofellowDarkkish: they're in here: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps05:39
[187ci] marcI did install in text base05:39
cellofellowdavid__: happens now and again.05:39
Darkkishoh thanks cellofellow thought i checked there but i guess not05:39
cellofellowdavid__: just a little odd. One that dissappears most is the Trash.05:39
david__cellofellow: Is this documented as a bug anywhere?05:40
cellofellowDarkkish: ok, :)05:40
cellofellowdunno05:40
Jester45Darkkish: it was usr not etc05:40
H264mind if I ask a (dumb) question?05:42
Jester45no05:42
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H264I am useing 6.10 xubuntu and I need to figure out how to use the (dial up 56K) modem05:43
Jester45menu ->system -> netowrking -> modem connection -> properties05:44
Jester45might be it05:44
H264I found that...05:44
H264but it gives me a list of ports... which one? and how do I dile up?05:45
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goppjo05:47
H264nobody likes n00bs, not even me :)05:47
gopphi05:47
H264hi05:47
Jester45not sure05:47
H264hmm05:47
Jester45hi05:47
Jester45!dailup05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dailup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
gopp!dialup05:47
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto05:47
Jester45!dialup05:47
BFTDwhat do I need to install to get graveman to burn .mp3's to cd?05:47
jdrakepalbearer05:48
cellofellowhehe05:48
gopp!yaboot05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yaboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
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[187ci] marclol05:49
BFTDhow do i get a G3 to boot from cd?05:49
cellofellow!botsnack05:49
ubotuYum!05:49
jdrakeBFTD: You have not specified if you are trying to burn mp3s to a cd as a data disk or a cd audio disk.05:49
cellofellow!ppc05:49
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.05:49
jdrakeBFTD: If it is a bootable cd in the drive, hold down 'c'05:50
BFTDjdrake, as a audio05:50
goppcellofellow can't get yaboot to load05:50
cellofellowwhat is yaboot, pray tell.05:50
jdrakeI don't know about 'graveman', but I have used k3b and had all the regular mp3 support installed as told in the guides.05:50
goppit like grub for ppc05:50
goppa bootloader05:50
[187ci] marcYou think dapper drake might work  with the voodoo card?05:50
cellofellowok05:51
[187ci] marc?05:52
PuMpErNiCkLe[187ci] marc: Your current install will work if you use the 'vesa' driver instead of the 3dfx driver.05:52
cellofellowvesa? ouch!05:52
[187ci] marcrofl05:52
[187ci] marcback to the floppy disk05:52
[187ci] marcjk05:53
[187ci] marcis that the only way?05:53
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[187ci] marcmaybe the refresh rates are too high05:53
grazie[187ci] marc: it's a known bug05:54
graziegopp: hi there05:55
[187ci] marcwhat05:55
[187ci] marcthe voodoo crap05:55
[187ci] marcI mean card05:55
[187ci] marc:)05:55
graziegopp: did you find out whether your mac support thart 160g disk?05:56
grazie[187ci] marc: the voodoo card driver don't work. You can use the vesa driver instead05:56
[187ci] marcdo I have to dl it/05:57
[187ci] marcor it is in the cmos05:57
david__gopp: What's your question?05:57
[187ci] marcvesa driver come with the disk?05:59
grazie[187ci] marc: you only need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf..that's it05:59
[187ci] marc:P05:59
goppgrazie it does06:00
goppgrazie I was able to mount it06:00
goppunder yellow dog06:00
goppjust right know06:00
grazie[187ci] marc: when you get to the login screen hit alt+ctrl+f106:00
[187ci] marcwell I was in terminal06:01
graziegopp: have you not looked in the specs though?06:01
goppand I used06:01
gopppdisk it showed it06:01
[187ci] marcsafemode terminal06:01
goppread and write to it06:01
[187ci] marcsamething right?06:01
grazie[187ci] marc: i thought you got logged out?06:02
[187ci] marcI did06:02
[187ci] marconly when in normal mode06:02
grazieok06:02
[187ci] marcof xfce06:02
[187ci] marcor06:02
graziesudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:02
grazie[187ci] marc: ^^06:03
[187ci] marcThanks <306:03
goppbrg06:04
goppbrb06:04
grazie[187ci] marc: sorted?06:04
[187ci] marcnot yet, my computer is off06:04
[187ci] marcbut I am sure that is what the probelm is06:05
H264umm, does the IRQ number for the modem have anything to do with the COM port number?06:05
[187ci] marcIf that fails, i'll come back here tomarrow06:05
[187ci] marcPeace out, and thanks for the help.06:05
graziegopp: As the ydl is in bad shape, your quickest & easiest solution would be to take out all the old disks06:10
graziegopp: make the new disk the master drive and just install xubuntu again. Easy enough to put the disks back in and recover your data after installation06:11
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j1mccheck out all of these awexome tests:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Current07:00
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j1mcwe just need more AMD64 testers07:00
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graziej1mc: good news07:08
j1mcyeah.07:08
posingaspopularj1mc: hit me up on a PM07:08
graziej1mc: does this mean you've given up hope on ppc?07:08
j1mcgrazie, i think i need to report the test results via launchpad somehow, though.07:09
j1mci don't think we've given up on PPC.  i guess we need more testers for that, though.07:09
graziej1mc: there's a set of tracking bugs for that07:10
j1mcwhere at?  i just found some stuff, but launchpad is down for now.07:10
grazielemme check07:10
j1mcthanks.  :)07:10
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graziej1mc: um...launchpad is offline07:15
j1mcyeah.  :(07:16
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s|kwhat's a good rss reader for xubuntu?07:17
graziej1mc: when launchpad is back up I think you can link to the test tracking bugs from below07:19
graziej1mc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ReportingResults.....The Reporting Results section07:19
j1mcthanks, grazie.  i'll check out the test tracking section.07:21
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X704would it be likely that somebody will provide a post-instulation program to install drivers not in the instulation?08:08
X704or is that not very feasible?08:09
grazieX704: the system has an inbuilt machanism for loading drivers08:10
X704hmm08:12
X704to what extent does it goto?08:13
grazieX704: what's the problem?08:13
X704heh, the internel 56K modem08:13
grazieyou've installed the driver outside the package manager?08:14
X704umm, not yet08:15
graziewhen you have just add the name of the driver module to /etc/modules....that's it08:16
X704ok08:16
graziethe driver will then be loaded on every boot08:16
X704oh, ok...08:17
X704it looks like this is a package installer08:17
grazie?08:18
X704err, installes with the package installer?08:19
X704lol, I am too new at this08:19
graziesynaptic, aptitude or apt-get are the package management tools (whichever suites best)08:20
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X704jeeze08:29
X704linuxant wants $20 just so I can use this old modem08:30
X704I could probably not get $20 for the whole computer08:32
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TheSheephello folks10:18
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kumamotohello10:41
TheSheephi kumamoto10:48
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kumamotowonder if anyone has issues with using mplayer video gl1 or gl2 mine is kind a shaky11:27
gabkdll1Hi all. Is there a file that keeps track of which packages I have explicitely installed? I am thinking it could be of great help for cleaning up packages that I don't use anymore.#11:27
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gabkdll1kumamoto: I also have trouble with mplayer, but I use the default output driver11:31
gabkdll1xv I think11:32
gabkdll1rebooting seems to help11:32
gabkdll1maybe it has to do with my using mencoder in a cron job to record from my TV card?11:33
TheSheepgabkdll1: you can run dpkg -l to get that list11:36
gabkdll1cool, thanks TheSheep11:36
kumamotomy xv x11 work fine but switched to gl1 it is overstock11:39
kumamotoI mean whatever am watching becomes jittery and has delayed sound11:40
gabkdll1My experience is that gl drivers require more CPU11:41
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kumamotoguess my 1.5Ghz athlon is no match12:41
gabkdll1TheSheep: it looks like dpkg -l lists all the packages I have installed on my system. I would prefer to have a minamal list to remove, so that I can get rid of dependencies with apt-get autoremove12:45
gabkdll1but I guess if that is not possible, I shall have to reinstall, or is there a better way?12:46
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yaccin!resolution01:22
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:22
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gemini82Hello, so I want to change the theme of the KDE applications, how do i do that?01:30
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graziepm ubotu !log02:42
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willhi?03:01
TheSheephello will03:02
=== will inexperienced linuxer with a fresh install if xubuntu 6.10
willhi sheep03:02
willsorry for the bad grammer in the last message. had to type 1 handed03:02
TheSheephm?03:03
willI came here to see if I could get some understanding on what is going wrong with my graphical issue.03:03
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TheSheepwell, you can always ask, in the worst case we will tell you to google ;)03:04
willsorry, I'm a little careful about my grammer cause I'm deaf and if I'm not careful, I'll have a hard time writing things properly03:04
willlol03:04
TheSheepwill: so what's wrong with your graphics?03:04
willwell basically I've finally! fixed the resolution of my xubuntu to ~1024x746 but now the screen have the slow updating line that goes downward. do you know what I mean?03:05
TheSheepas if the image was refreshed ery slowly?03:05
willyeah03:06
TheSheepwill: what is your graphics card and what driver do you use for it?03:06
TheSheepwill: tell me if you don't know, I will tell you how to check :)03:06
willI'm researching on this but cause my internet subscription end today, I feel that it may be quicker to ask it here.   I don't know how to find the graphical info, do I look into the xorg.conf?03:07
TheSheepwill: yes, xorg.conf will tell you which driver you use03:07
willI had a radeon 9550 but I had to take it out to let my xubuntu cd work and install. not sure what gona happen if I put it back in.03:07
willok thanks03:08
TheSheepwill: type "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"03:08
TheSheepwill: type "lspci | grep VGA" to see the make and model of your graphics card03:09
willok, what does that "grep" do? (just wondering)03:09
TheSheepwill: picks the line that contains the given word03:09
TheSheepwill: something like searching03:09
TheSheepwill: very handy03:09
willok, I just scrolled through it and found it lol. basically it says that the card is a generic video card and the driver is vesa.03:10
TheSheepwill: that explains it -- the vesa driver is incredibly slow03:10
TheSheepwill: but it's universal -- will work for any grphics card03:11
TheSheepwill: but to get better performance, use the driver for your card03:11
willok thanks for letting me know. how do I fix this?03:11
willok, would it be better for me to install the radeon 9550 video card?03:11
TheSheepwill: if it's radeon, there are howtos on the ubuntu forum on how to make them working03:12
TheSheep!ati | will03:12
ubotuwill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:12
TheSheepwill: personally I don't have experience with radeons03:12
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willok thanks.03:12
willI need to get nvidia next time.03:12
TheSheepnvidia usually has less problems under Linux03:13
TheSheepstill not perfect03:13
willyeah, it also have less problems with blender and other games from what I've seen.03:14
willok, brb. installing the video card. wish me luck03:15
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yaccin!keyboard03:27
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts03:27
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yaccinhmm my > key isnt working03:30
yaccino.O03:30
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yaccingood luck ^^03:31
willyeah lol03:32
willi needed to do it so I could get rid of the slow graphical update rate03:32
yaccinati sucks :/03:35
willyeah :/ this one I got was a impluse spending before I did any research on it.03:36
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willbrb, restarting X03:38
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ChromeAngelgood afternnon04:20
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ChromeAngeli'd like to enquire about the minimum spec necissary to run xubuntu04:21
ChromeAngeland if there is a specific distro for laptop computers04:21
Taxmanhow minimum are you talking?04:22
ChromeAngela 400mhz laptop04:22
TaxmanI have 128mb ram and an 800 mhz pIII and it's a little slow but usable04:22
Taxmanmemory is more the problem than the processor04:22
ChromeAngelI think it should be OK ram-wize04:23
ChromeAngelI tried an ubuntu live CD in it and that rna like a slide show04:23
Taxman256mb+ and you'd be very happy with xubuntu04:23
Taxmanthe livecd's are always slow though04:24
ChromeAngelyeah, well they would be04:25
ChromeAngeli'll DL the desktop verison of 6.10 then, see how that goes04:25
Taxmanxubuntu will definitely run better in lower memory04:26
ChromeAngelcheers for that anyway04:27
ChromeAngelbye all04:27
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Lord_Maynoth_42anyone here05:17
Lord_Maynoth_42?05:17
Lord_Maynoth_42I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on an issue I was having05:17
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Lord_Maynoth_42I installed edgy on an older machine05:18
Lord_Maynoth_422100+ 256MB Nforce105:18
maxamillionLord_Maynoth_42: what's the issue?05:18
Lord_Maynoth_42and it is slower than windows 200005:18
Will^DravenI just had to come in here just to profess my love for this distro.05:18
Lord_Maynoth_42:c05:18
Lord_Maynoth_42so I am thinking about switching to xubuntu05:18
Lord_Maynoth_42im a noob so how hard is it to use xubuntu05:19
maxamillionWill^Draven: why thank you :)05:19
maxamillion!nvidia | Lord_Maynoth_4205:19
ubotuLord_Maynoth_42: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:19
maxamillion:)05:19
Will^DravenI just switched over from gentoo, and miraculously, EVERYTHING just worked. cd burner, wireless network, sound05:19
maxamillionWill^Draven: well ... we try ;)05:19
Lord_Maynoth_42I dun wanna install video card drivers05:19
Lord_Maynoth_42lol05:19
Lord_Maynoth_42I dont use it for 3d05:19
Lord_Maynoth_42im just saying its slow as crap05:19
Lord_Maynoth_42and I am thinking about switching from ubuntu to xubuntu05:20
maxamillionLord_Maynoth_42: oh ... ok, yeah05:20
Lord_Maynoth_42is xubuntu really hard05:21
Lord_Maynoth_42will automatix still function with it05:21
Lord_Maynoth_42?05:21
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maxamillionLord_Maynoth_42: no it isn't hard, and yes automatix will function with it.... but i don't recommend anyone to ever use automatix05:22
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rmd_ok.. according to update manager, there are no new release updates i can do, but when i open firefox it tells me i'm running 6.06, rather than 6.1005:32
TheSheeprmd_: this is a know bug -- they forgot to update that page05:35
TheSheeprmd_: open terminal and type "cat /etc/issue"05:35
maxamillionrmd_: technically the docs tell you that you are running 6.06 and not 6.10 ... and that's because we didn't have the man power to get the docs updated .... its an issue we no longer have to worry about and will be fixed in 7.0405:35
TheSheepmaxamillion: aloha!05:35
maxamillionTheSheep: long time no speak ... what's up?05:35
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sigg3Good day05:37
maxamillionhello05:38
sigg3I'm having a weird problem with the Xubuntu installation05:38
maxamillionsigg3: do tell05:38
sigg3When I try running it, it gives an error saying "Missing command to run"05:38
maxamillionsigg3: when you try running the installer?05:39
sigg3*nod maxamillion05:39
sigg3yes05:39
maxamillionsigg3: live cd or alternate image?05:39
sigg3Live CD05:39
sigg3I've tested it for errors too. Strange thing is, it didn't give this error two weeks ago.05:40
maxamillionhuh .... same cd?05:40
sigg3yup05:40
TheSheepsigg3: what do you exactly do?05:40
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TheSheepsigg3: just click on the installer icon?05:41
maxamillionsigg3: does it have a scratch on it?05:41
graziecds can get damaged or a bit dirty05:41
sigg3I run the installer from the "start menu" (under System)05:41
maxamillionsigg3: what happens when you double click the desktop icon?05:42
sigg3Max: Same thing05:42
sigg3haven't tried that today tho:p05:42
maxamillioninteresting ...05:42
sigg3could it be related to gksu?05:43
maxamillionsigg3: its possible, but i don't think that would be the issue since you had it working last week05:44
Taxmanif I shutdown during update manager installing packages, how recoverable is it?05:44
sigg3I have switched to a new HDD, tested with a HDD utility, though. Could that really be it? It's a bit strange, seeing that the installation hasn't even gotten to the partition part of it.05:45
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grazieTaxman: system should recover ok I think...why would you want to shutdown during an update?05:47
sigg3I've got an alternate disk too. What's the difference really, and how would I proceed to install?05:48
Taxmangrazie: looks like it's going to take forever, and I may not have the time to wait05:48
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sylvaticushelloall.. I just ended my first xubuntu installation..05:49
maxamillioni have to run to class ... bbl05:50
Taxmansylvaticus: congratitations :)05:50
sylvaticusI have a couple of problems with xorg & switching off05:50
graziesigg3: if you've not aleady done so, I'd try just cleaning the cd.05:50
sylvaticusthanks Taxman.. I have the problem resolution doesn't go more than 800x60005:51
graziesigg3: the alternate doesn't use a gui installer and can''t be used as a live cd...that's it05:51
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slow-motionhallo05:52
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kalikiana_grazie, the text installer is actually more powerful, isn't it?05:52
Keneohello, I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate cd on a old pc over here, but I get an error that no ethernet card can be found, and I might need addition modules to find it (there is one in it, and working) What do I do now?05:52
sylvaticusI already try dpgk-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg like suggested in the form, but nothing... just black borders around the screen05:52
sylvaticusgrazie.. are u the same of yesterday?05:53
graziekalikiana_: what power?05:53
Taxmansylvaticus: beyond me, sorry. Mine just works, and I like 800x600 :)05:53
sylvaticus(problem solved with anth)05:53
graziesylvaticus: I think there's only one of me ?05:53
sylvaticus'just learned yesterday about IRC ;-)05:54
graziesylvaticus: what machine?05:54
kalikiana_grazie: you can eg. not overwrite the mbr and it in fact works on systems where the gui installer is broken05:54
leaphistohello05:55
leaphistowhat is the media player for xubuntu?05:55
sylvaticusgrazie: a toshiba laptop 64MB, 300Mhz.. I had a mandriva 10.1 and it was working KDE full-screen (but very slowly...)05:55
graziekalikiana_: the alternate is designed to work on systems with low ram...don't know of an mbr problem with the desktop cd05:56
graziesylvaticus: sounds like an xorg & driver config problem05:57
graziesylvaticus: are you booted up?05:57
kalikiana_grazie, The live installer overwrites the mbr in any case, if that has not changed recently, unlike the text version05:58
sylvaticusgrazie: yes.. I have xubuntu up and running, but with black bords around the LCD screen05:58
Taxmanleaphisto: go to the menu, then multimedia. xfmedia is the default player. I'm on 6.06 though05:58
leaphistojust wanted to run it commandline05:58
graziesylvaticus: hit alt+ctrl+f105:59
sylvaticusgrazie: it should be 1024x800, instead I can't set the display more than 800x60005:59
sigg3thanks for the tip05:59
sylvaticusgrazie: yes.. I'm on the console now05:59
sigg3but I'm 20% into the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) now, so I'll just try that instead.06:00
graziesylvaticus: lspci | grep -i vga06:00
Taxmanis the 6.06 to 6.10 upgrade path supported now, or is a reinstall still better?06:01
sylvaticusgrazie: well.. I have an other problem.. I can't login as root (but I can sudo).. maybe some security (/bin/false ?? )06:02
grazie!upgrade | Taxman06:02
ubotuTaxman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:02
TheSheepsylvaticus: you have to set the password for user root -- it doesn't have any by default06:02
TheSheepsylvaticus: do "sudo passwd"06:02
Taxmanthanks :)06:03
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sylvaticusgrazie: VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyber 9525 (rev 49)06:05
graziesylvaticus: you can probably change the driver to vesa to get a working config06:06
sylvaticusgrazie: how? in xorg.conf06:07
graziesylvaticus: yes06:07
graziesylvaticus: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:07
sylvaticusgrazie: grazie: in X?06:09
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graziesylvaticus: sorry 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' in console'06:10
leaphistoumm... how can i execute the media player in xubuntu through bash?06:10
grazieleaphisto: which media player?06:10
leaphistoi don't care06:11
leaphistoone that can play movies06:11
grazieleaphisto: enter gxine06:11
leaphistoi have grannyporn.avi which i wanna watch!!06:11
grazieAh yes I remember06:11
QewI think he's confused about the X in xubuntu ;)06:11
grazieleaphisto: you might need some special codecs for that :)06:12
sylvaticusgrazie: all right.. I'm in X.. I am slow as the console installer set me the English keyboard instead of the Italian one.. sorry..06:12
sylvaticusgrazie: I can see driver "trident" in section Device06:13
graziesylvaticus: you change the keyboard also while you're editing06:13
graziesylvaticus: change to vesa06:13
sylvaticusgrazie: that's a good news ;-)06:13
sylvaticusdone & saved xorg.conf06:14
graziesylvaticus: you changed the keyboard too?06:14
sylvaticusgrazie: no, but I think I found where to change... "Section InputDevise"..06:16
graziesylvaticus: yeah06:16
sylvaticusgrazie: I have XkbModel pc105 and XkbLayout us06:16
sylvaticusgrazie: the second I presume I have to change in "it", and the former?? do I leave it pc105 ?06:17
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graziesylvaticus: 'it'...not certain but I think so yes...leave the rest06:17
graziesylvaticus: when done.... restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace06:18
sylvaticusok... should I reboot ?06:18
sylvaticusok06:19
graziesylvaticus: ^^06:19
sylvaticusgrazie: me again.. now on desktop impostations I have only default and 640x480@6106:21
graziesylvaticus: impostations?06:22
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sylvaticusgrazie: sorry.. my translation in English.. on the xubuntu tool to select the screen resolution...06:23
graziesylvaticus: ok06:23
Keneocan anybody tell me what kernel the xubuntu 6.06 alternate cd uses?06:24
sylvaticuskeneo: uname -a from a console06:24
graziesylvaticus: you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' again and select vesa as the driver...you should be able to get better resolution06:24
sylvaticusgrazie: 'checking...06:25
graziesylvaticus: i think the trident driver is problematic and a has a bug raised...for a long time...you'll need to search the forums06:28
sylvaticusI still had to try that command.. I had to reboot... I'll try it now..06:28
Keneothe xubuntu alternate installer can't find my ehternet card (3com etherlink 3c503), what to do now?06:34
KeneoI'm talking xubuntu 6.06 here06:35
grazieKeneo: do you know the name of the driver for it?06:35
Keneono, do you?06:36
grazieno :<06:36
Keneowhat do you mean by driver name?06:36
graziegrazie: I'll have look about06:36
grazieKeneo: your network card needs a kernel driver06:38
Keneohow do I get that?06:38
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grazieKeneo: I think the kernel should support that card already. what machine is it?06:42
Keneoan old packard bell06:42
grazienot a laptop?06:42
Keneono06:42
Keneodesktop06:42
Keneodon't remember the model number06:43
Keneocan't seem to find it06:43
graziethat ok06:43
Keneothe kernel should support it since 2.4.xx06:43
grazieKeneo: lemme see if I can find a troubleshooting guide06:44
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Keneothx :)06:45
davidwinteris there an alternative web browser that runs well in Xubuntu rather than Firefox?06:45
grazieKeneo: look at this link >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87644&page=206:46
graziedavidwinter: lots06:47
sylvaticusgrazie: hmm... I get rid of it for today.. thanks any-how...06:47
graziesylvaticus: np06:47
davidwintergrazie: is there one you could recommend?06:47
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graziedarren1: I like opera...but had problems with it on x86 linux06:48
graziedavidwinter: ^^06:49
graziedarren1: sorry :(06:49
davidwinterthanks06:49
davidwinterwasn't there a browser that used to be bundled before Firefox was made default?06:50
graziedavidwinter: mozilla probably06:50
graziedavidwinter: actually only had problems with opera on some distros06:51
davidwinterI think I was looking for Dillo...06:52
davidwinterjust found it06:52
davidwintercouldn't think of the name06:53
graziedavidwinter: yeah dillo is nice and kight....I like it too...I think it'll get better06:53
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sylvaticusgrazie: thank you !! I managed to solve changing some parameters on dpkg-reconfigure... thanks ;-)07:07
graziesylvaticus: great!07:08
sylvaticusI have few other minour things to set, but I'll try to sort them by myself.. or I will ask again ;-).. cheers..07:09
graziesylvaticus: prego07:09
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BFTDhi al07:56
BFTDall*07:56
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maxamillionBFTD: hello08:02
BFTDhey08:04
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BFTDWell, I got Xubuntu for my Mac G3, it shows the loading screen part where it loads all the services, but then i get a black screen once its done08:05
BFTDanyone care to explain?08:06
grazieBFTD: iMac?08:06
BFTDgrazie no just a G308:06
BFTDyes08:06
BFTDyes its an iMac08:06
grazie:)08:06
maxamillionlol08:06
grazieBFTD: known problem with xorg config08:07
kalikianamaybe that is why ubuntu ppc support was dropped afterall :P08:08
grazieBFTD: it's easily fixed...search the forums08:09
grazieBFTD = CommanderCrow?08:09
maxamilliongrazie: yes08:10
graziek08:10
sylvaticusgrazie: hi Grazie.. still there? how does it works the mp3 support in xubuntu?08:14
maxamillion!mp3 | sylvaticus08:14
ubotusylvaticus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:14
hyper_ch!restricted | sylvaticus08:14
maxamillionahhhh bot attack!!!!08:15
maxamillion:P08:15
hyper_chyou were quicker and right :)08:15
hyper_chI just noticed ajax is really neat :)08:15
maxamillionyes it is ... but i'm lazy and it seems complicated08:17
hyper_chnot really :)08:17
hyper_chI had a look today at xajax and it's simple08:17
graziehyper_ch: true....I visited a really good ajax driven blogg recently...very good...but lots of latency though08:18
hyper_chcreating now a small script / program and ajax comes in handy08:18
hyper_chwhy would you want an ajax driven blog?08:18
graziewht not?08:18
maxamilliongame, set, match08:19
hyper_chwell, I don't see what should be driven by ajax there :)08:19
maxamillion;)08:19
maxamillionbrb08:19
hyper_chI think ajax is great to make "intelligent" forms that won't need to be submitted and reloaded :) that's how I use it :)08:19
sylvaticusmy old laptop in not connected with the net (really, it doesn't even have an eth) so I can't do the usual think of adding a third party reposity and download08:20
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BFTDok sorry, my internet cut out on me08:20
hyper_chsylvaticus: you have two identical installs?08:21
sylvaticusI'd like to know if there is one .deb I can download and install to the base xubuntu to make gxine working08:21
hyper_chit's multiple debs08:21
sylvaticushyper_ch: no, I'm on an other Linux box now08:21
grazieBFTD: iMac is easily fixed...search the forums08:21
hyper_chsylvaticus: you'll have dow download all the dependencies then08:22
sylvaticushyper_ch: is there a list somewhere I don't have too much to try?08:22
hyper_chcan't help you with a list08:23
hyper_chI can give you a list of the packages of codecs that I installed08:23
hyper_chbut I don't know what other dependencies they required08:23
sylvaticushyper_ch: I think libxine1 doesn't have many dependencies.. I would start with that... where can I thind the mirrors of the "third party" software in ubuntu?08:26
sylvaticushyper_ch: (I think they are call "multuiverse" in xubuntu)08:26
graziesylvaticus: your servers are listed in /etc/apt/sources.lst08:27
graziesylvaticus: a distro like mint containing all the codecs may be an option too....a bit over the top though08:28
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sylvaticusgrazie: yes, I am browsing http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but I can't get where the real packages are..08:36
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goldfishRippawallet: hello.08:43
RippawalletYOU FALLOWED ME08:43
RippawalletGTFO MY NTERNETS08:44
goldfishNO08:44
Rippawalletok :(08:44
goldfishI OWN CYBARWEBZ08:44
RippawalletNO08:44
RippawalletTHE INTARWEBZ IS MYNE08:44
goldfishwant to go cam 2 cam plz?08:44
Rippawalletsur08:44
goldfishaddy me up plz lol08:44
maxamillion!caps08:44
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:44
RippawalletSRY UBOTU08:45
goldfishI WIL POP A CAP IN YOU ASS08:45
Rippawalleti jst am hurny 4 u bbz08:45
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maxamilliongoldfish: you will do what?08:45
RippawalletHE WILL POP A CAP IN YO ASS08:45
RippawalletNIGGA08:45
goldfishHeh.08:45
Rippawallet:] 08:45
RippawalletWe are win.08:45
goldfishKickban me!08:45
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Rippawalletsorry08:46
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Rippawalletmy penis exploded08:46
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goldfishRippawallet: /j #ls-dj08:46
Rippawalletsorry08:46
Rippawalletmy penis exploded08:46
Rippawalletmmk08:46
maxamillion!language08:46
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:46
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Rippawalletwhat08:46
Rippawalletpenis is a scientific term08:46
maxamillionyes, but phrases like "penis exploded" are slang08:46
goldfishRippawallet: You are a bad troll.08:46
maxamillionthis channel is for support ... please take offtopic conversation to #xubuntu-offtopic, thank you08:47
RippawalletOMGWTFBBQ08:47
RippawalletGOLDFISH08:47
RippawalletWE MST JOIN08:47
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sylvaticusdid anyone know the ftp-server address and directory where to find the binary packages for ubutu that are patent-problematic???08:56
maxamillionsylvaticus: what?08:59
sylvaticusmaxamillion: I need to manually download packages from the multiverse reposityes, but I can't find them09:02
maxamillionsylvaticus: http://packages.ubuntu.com09:02
graziemaxamillion: of course09:04
Rippawalletgoldfish,09:05
Rippawallet* *** You are banned from aBlazeNet (Comments or statements not appropriate for Family & Kids are not allowed.)09:05
Rippawallet* Closing Link: I_want_to_fuck_jesus[82-32-33-117.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk]  (User has been banned from aBlazeNet (Comments or statements not appropriate for Family & Kids are not allowed.))09:05
goldfishhaha09:05
goldfishbah, stop trolling proper channels!09:05
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sylvaticusmaxamillion: thanks, what I was searching ;-)09:12
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corvolinoboa tarde09:12
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snook353i'm goin to need to dual boot xp and xubuntu on a 30 gig hd.  should i get a smaller distro?  any tips?09:56
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[187ci] marcHey10:05
[187ci] marcanyone here?10:06
snook353i'm here, but gotta go10:06
snook353bbl10:06
Koji-MurasameHere here.10:06
[187ci] marcok10:06
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[187ci] marcI have a question10:07
Koji-MurasameI don't know how much help I'll be, but shoot.10:08
[187ci] marcok10:09
[187ci] marcI have window lag in xbuntu..10:09
[187ci] marcI tried looking for a setting, but could not find one..10:10
Koji-MurasameHas this problem just occurred recently?10:11
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[187ci] marcno10:12
[187ci] marcI installed this on an older computer10:12
[187ci] marcit had a voodoo graphic card. I changed the xorg.conf, tdfx to vesa..10:13
[187ci] marcother wise the desktop will not boot10:13
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grazie[187ci] marc: hi...you were online about this yesterday?10:14
[187ci] marcya10:15
[187ci] marcI fixed that probelm10:15
[187ci] marcit works now10:15
[187ci] marcbut there is window lag..10:15
[187ci] marcI can't find a setting for it10:15
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grazie[187ci] marc: the vesa driver is slow..but it works...no way to speed it up10:16
[187ci] marcThats what I thought10:17
grazie[187ci] marc: the voodoo driver in ubuntu is broken...but there is a workaround10:17
[187ci] marcIs it long process10:17
grazie[187ci] marc: it's descriided in the bug report >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/6829110:17
UbugtuMalone bug 68291 in xorg "GDM Restarts after Desktop loads while using tdfx driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] 10:17
[187ci] marco10:21
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[187ci] marcSo should I try that patch?10:24
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tuxcrafterwhy does rsync not work on xubuntu images?10:24
tuxcrafterrsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/feisty-alternate-i386.iso feisty-alternate-i386.iso10:24
[187ci] marcso10:27
grazie[187ci] marc: that's you're only option id you want better performance10:28
grazietuxcrafter: try rsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily/current/feisty-alternate-i386.iso feisty-alternate-i386.iso10:29
tuxcrafteryes was debuggin thinks10:29
grazietuxcrafter: the guide isn't quite correct10:29
tuxcrafternot working10:29
grazietuxcrafter: is the server up?10:30
tuxcrafter?10:30
tuxcrafter/etc/init.d/rsysc ?10:30
grazietuxcrafter: no the server cdimage.ubuntu.com...it is10:31
grazietuxcrafter: although the rsync server may be down....unlikey10:32
tuxcrafterrsync rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-amd64.iso .10:33
tuxcrafterthis one works10:33
grazietuxcrafter: that's what I gave you!10:34
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tuxcrafterrsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-amd64.iso .10:35
tuxcrafterrsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily/current/feisty-alternate-i386.iso feisty-alternate-i386.iso10:36
lesshastemy system has gone silent... is there a mixer app that I can check to see if the sound is muted for some reason?10:36
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neozen!nmap10:36
tuxcrafterlesshaste: amixer10:36
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB10:36
lesshastetuxcrafter, I ran amixer and it just prints out a page of stats10:36
tuxcrafterlesshaste: alsamixer :-D10:37
tuxcrafterbtw I think the xfce mixer is to simple and should be expanded10:38
grazietuxcrafter: already done in xfce4.410:38
tuxcraftergrazie: nice10:38
tuxcrafterhmm did not see it in feisty10:38
tuxcrafteri am still testing :-D10:39
lesshastehooray!10:39
lesshasteit was muted for some reason :)10:40
tuxcrafterlesshate and the volume was not set too zero in the xfce tool!!!???10:40
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tuxcrafterlesshaste: I have tested if this was possible but i could not do it the xfce tool always set he vulume bar to zero if i mute some channel10:41
lesshastetuxcrafter, which tool is the xfce tool?10:41
tuxcrafterlesshaste: xfce4-mixer10:41
lesshasteI didn't know about that10:42
lesshasteis that in some menu?10:42
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tuxcrafterlesshaste: no another thing i found buggy :-D What i do is create a new laucher pannel, open the appfinder tool, drag the sound app to the laucher wizzard creater, and change the command to the xfe4-mixer10:44
lesshasteok :)10:44
lesshastethe current bug is that everytime I restart the number of nm-applets that start increases by one10:44
lesshasteI am up to 7 now!10:45
lesshastethere must be some config file for this10:45
lesshastebut I can't find it10:45
tuxcrafterthe app is appfinder->all->sound10:45
tuxcrafterdrag that to the windows that appears when adding a new laucher10:46
tuxcrafterand change the command10:46
lesshasteappfinder?10:46
tuxcrafteri removed the default sound plugin and create the launcher10:46
tuxcraftermenu->accessories->appfinder10:46
lesshasteok thanks10:48
tuxcraftertry it please10:48
lesshasteany idea how to tame the number of nm-applets that start up?10:48
tuxcraftersee if you now what i mean10:48
tuxcrafterknow10:48
tuxcraftertry the dragging10:48
tuxcrafterform the appfinder app to the new laucher window10:48
neozenless: delete all the created sessions10:50
lesshasteneozen, can you explain more?10:51
lesshastewhat do you mean by created sessions?10:54
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neozen....ok11:02
neozenyou have save session enabled on logout right?11:02
lesshasteneozen, hmm... I am new to ubuntu.. let me try to check11:03
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neozen...when you logout... there's a little checkbox11:03
neozen...its probably checked11:03
neozen...uncheck it11:03
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lesshasteright.. I see it11:03
lesshasteis it as simple as that?11:04
neozen....well.... no11:04
neozenlol11:04
lesshasteok11:04
neozenyou've probably restarted a ton11:04
lesshasteyes11:04
neozen(haven't done this in awhile11:05
neozen...so bear with me11:05
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lesshastek11:06
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neozenI'm still looking mon11:08
neozenin the interm11:08
neozen...go to settings in the application menu11:08
lesshastek11:08
neozenselect Sessions and Startup11:09
lesshastek11:09
neozenuncheck the automatically save session on logout11:09
neozenbox11:09
lesshastek11:09
lesshastegoing to try logging out and back in now11:10
neozenhey guys11:12
neozen...where does xubuntu save sessions?11:12
rmd_huh?11:13
neozennm11:15
neozenI got it11:15
rmd_oh.  good then.11:15
tuxcrafterneozen: can you share the locoation11:18
neozensure11:18
neozenlooks to be saved in ~/.cache11:18
tuxcrafterthe config file i mean11:18
tuxcrafterow ioke11:18
neozenconfig file for....?11:18
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neozentux: what are you talking about?11:19
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tuxcrafter  [GEOMETRY]  (478,303,484,316)11:19
tuxcrafter  [GEOMETRY-MAXIMIZED]  (478,303,484,316)11:19
tuxcrafternice to know this11:19
neozen...................................................11:19
neozen::blinks::11:20
tuxcrafterneozen: You gave me the correct infor :-D11:20
neozenI have no idea what you're talking about11:20
neozen...um... ok11:20
tuxcrafter./cache :-D11:21
neozenyeah11:21
neozenin the session directory in that folder11:21
neozen.....if you whack those out11:22
neozenand you don't save sessions...11:22
neozenxfce acts sane11:22
neozen::grins::11:22
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neozengah11:26
neozenwell when less gets back11:27
neozenmake sure to tell him to whack out all the nm-applet stuff in ~/.cache/session11:27
neozenk tux?11:27
neozenits time for me to go11:27
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PuMpErNiCkLeYou can leave him a memo with memoserv - it's more reliable.11:30
PuMpErNiCkLeNext time he joins, he'll get the message, whether it's while we're here or not.11:30
posingaspopularPuMpErNiCkLe: how does memoserv work11:31
posingaspopularive never heard of it/me is interguied11:31
j1mcPuMpErNiCkLe: same question here . . .   the person doesn't even have to be in the room?11:31
j1mcposingaspopular: hey.  what's up11:31
PuMpErNiCkLej1mc: Exactly.11:32
posingaspopularhey j1mc, you're home early. im doing ubuntu dev. work and biology hw. calculus in a few hours. thats all. whats up with you11:32
PuMpErNiCkLeposingaspopular: It's a freenode service, like Nickserv, but it stores memos for people.11:33
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tuxcrafterneozen: bye and btw try using tab completion with the irc names :-D11:33
Jester45is there a list of hardware compatiblity? im going to build my own cmoputer in the next few weeks and was hoping to get a fully supported box11:35
posingaspopularJester45: yes11:35
posingaspopulari think its linuxcompatablity.org11:35
posingaspopularbut not sure11:36
posingaspopulargoogle11:36
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Jester45would compatibility be a kernel thing or distro?11:37
posingaspopularkernel11:37
Jester45k11:37
posingaspopularyea11:37
posingaspopularmy calc teacher has a problem because he's on the fermilab distro of redhat11:38
posingaspopularand they have an older kernel11:38
posingaspopularand he needs the newer kernel for his wireless card11:38
posingaspopularso he's stuck w/o the wireless card11:38
Jester45well im going ot use ubuntu or kubuntu11:38
Jester45why not just add a new one?11:38
posingaspopularJester45:  fermilab takes forever to update their kernel because it ABSOLUTLY has to work and be stable.11:39
posingaspopularand as long as you avoid stuff like ATI, you should be okay11:39
Jester45o11:39
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Jester45ok looking at wikipedia for processors11:41
Jester45and the intel 4004 looks nice11:41
Jester45740khz :)11:41
Jester45640 b memory11:41
tuxcrafterj1mc: he its me :-D11:42
tuxcrafterj1mc: that rsyc is very buggy11:43
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Dylan_Can someone help me with the install?11:47
tuxcrafterj1mc: I take that back but there is something not alright with the xubuntu images and rsync11:47
posingaspopularDylan_: whats the prob...11:48
tuxcrafterDylan_: sorry dont have time know maybe later11:48
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Jester45im looking at Intel Pentium 4 or D, a 700 watt power suppy with 160 mm fan, ninja cpu cooler, geforce 7900 gtx, 4gb ram11:50
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Jester452 250 gb drives or 500 if i have the money11:51
Jester45that the most things im going to have to buy11:51
posingaspopularj1mc: when are you leaving to... NC? was it?11:52
Jester45i got a few fans11:52
tuxcrafterI am looking for a silent mini-itx system that works fully under linux have already bougth 3 of them but non of theme works11:52
tuxcrafterthe fourt one is in ordering11:52
Dylan_After fiddling with the boot partition(and got it right) installed the base system. Then the next step asked for internet information (im not using internet to install) and then a loading bar appears and stays at 1% for about 20 minutes, and i just shut it down11:52
Jester45tuxcrafter: i was looking at one of those to run a server on but... i new more games11:52
maxamilliontuxcrafter: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/11:52
j1mctuxcrafter: hi!11:52
BFTDdang i keep getting a 404 on the xubuntu download mirror for the USA11:53
maxamillionBFTD: i didn't know we had a xubuntu usa mirror11:53
BrendanMfermilab makes their own Linux distro? That's pretty cool11:53
BFTDmaxamillion we do11:53
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posingaspopularBrendanM: yea i know. im trying to get a fulltime job there this summer11:54
Jester45maxamillion: the problem with that is that i would like to have *buntu and the speed of drives not usb11:54
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tuxcrafterj1mc: now you remember the tuxcrafter :-P11:54
j1mchehehe . . .11:54
maxamillionJester45: then buy one of them that has the space for a laptop hdd, buy one and put it in ... they boot from usb, you can just install that way11:55
j1mci got your note.  that's far out.  the info you've provided is very helpful.11:55
Jester45maxamillion: still doesnt get me my games11:55
maxamillionJester45: :(11:55
tuxcraftermaxamillion: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards none of those boards are fully linux supported thinks like dolby do not work and other small thinks bad drivers11:55
maxamilliontuxcrafter: interesting ....11:56
BrendanMI live near fermilab, I did a summer program there in HS11:56
maxamilliontuxcrafter: http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcr/index.html11:56
tuxcraftermaxamillion: I have bought to of them the EN12000E and the M600011:56
Jester45ATTENTION!! FireFox has an update11:56
BrendanMOMG!!!!!11:56
posingaspopularBrendanM: right near... what's that suburb? my brother worked out there this summer at a place called acceleration11:57
burnerlol11:57
grazieDylan_: what's your machine?11:57
Jester45I KNOW!! amazing11:57
Jester45i look to be kinda big11:57
Dylan_ibook G3 blueberry11:57
BrendanMFermilab's in Batavia11:57
Jester45i got 3 updates with a total of 10mb11:57
BrendanMWhat's the FF update do?11:57
posingaspopularoh right, thats the place11:57
BrendanMIt's a nice enough area, and Chicago's right there11:58
Jester45yep the ff update is 9.2mb11:58
posingaspopularBrendanM: i live in chicago. midway airport area11:58
BrendanMheh, noisy?11:58
Jester45fix security on it... i jsut like updates !!WOOOOYAAA!!11:58
tuxcraftermaxamillion: via chips dont work piriot i have tested them 3 years i eaven developt patches and mods to trying to get them working fully11:58
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BrendanMI'm from the Chicago suburbs, but I'm in England on study abroad right now11:58
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grazieDylan_: not heard of a machine getting stuck at 1% before?11:59
tuxcraftermaxamillion: I have several treats running on ubuntu and viaarena forums11:59
BrendanMSpeaking of updates, I never got the most recent kernel updates because I heard they broke everything11:59
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posingaspopularnah its not tooo loud, but its cool even if it was. where are you studying11:59
tuxcraftermaxamillion: i am now going to try this one: http://www.mini-tft.de/xtc-neu/product_info.php?products_id=18958&cPath=11:59
BrendanMIs there a way to mark non-kernel updates in synaptic?11:59
BrendanMUniversity College London11:59
Jester45BrendanM: they didnt break me11:59
tuxcrafterbut i am affread that everyting will work onder linux exempt the SIS video driver but it is a new chip so maybe I can only find info about old ones12:00
Jester45BrendanM: yes i think you do sudo apt-get -h packages12:00
maxamilliontuxcrafter: i would be interested to see if everything works12:00
BrendanMif you read the Ubuntu forums, there's tons of people talking about how it broke their video and sound and stuff12:00
Jester45BrendanM: or somthing like that the -h mean hold look in in the man page12:00
BrendanMIt might be fine, but this laptop is my primary (and only) machine here, so I can't risk having it messed up.12:00
tuxcraftermaxamillion: if that now work i will buy this one http://de.kontron.com/index.php?id=226&cat=61&productid=175912:00
BrendanMI need it to do work and download American TV12:01
tuxcraftermaxamillion: but that will cost me 200 euro more only for linux support12:01
Dylan_i realld don't know, it was the installing part after the base installation12:01
Dylan_do i need to be hooked up to the internet to do that?12:01
maxamilliontuxcrafter: why do you need a mini-itx?12:01
grazieDylan_: no12:01
tuxcraftermaxamillion: the size and the low power and the low noice12:01
Dylan_ah.... how long should it take, then?12:02
grazieDylan_: can you hook it up to the internet though?12:02
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Dylan_i might, but that would involve me unhooking this computer12:02
Jester45looks good to me tuxcrafter12:02
maxamilliontuxcrafter: fair enough12:02
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t0taln00bhey :)12:03
grazieDylan_: on that machine probably about an 45+ minutes12:03
Dylan_grazie: is that the base install, the second or both together12:03
tuxcrafterbtw alll the info of this site wrong!!  http://www.mini-tft.de/xtc-neu/product_info.php?products_id=18958&cPath=12:03
grazieDylan_: whole thing12:03
t0taln00bdid any1 try installing feisty?12:04
BrendanMWhen does Feisty launch officially? April?12:04
Dylan_grazie: then it just got stuck?12:04
bur[n] er1si12:04
tuxcrafterMaximilian1st:  this ist he correct info in the datasheet located there http://www.jetway.com.tw/jetway/system/productshow2.asp?id=258&proname=J7F312:04
Maximilian1stmaxamillion, This was for you12:04
posingaspopularBrendanM: april12:04
tuxcraftermaxamillion: I mean them that is a irritation close name12:04
Maximilian1stThank you tuxcrafter12:05
tuxcrafterno problem :-D please change your nickname :-P12:05
grazieDylan_: you could try the install again and to find out what the problem is12:05
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Dylan_grazie: thats what i am trying right now...12:05
Maximilian1stYeah, get a life, my name is my name, can't change it, you choose your friends in life not your family..12:06
Jester45ummm... they have pci based cpus.... im gonna try like 8 of them12:06
Maximilian1st;-p just joking.12:06
maxamillionplease play nice12:07
tuxcrafteri must go now it is midnight here 00:0012:07
daemon-workshello everybody12:08
tuxcraftersee you later does that message reminder thing work if you are offline? (pc down)12:08
Maximilian1stmaxamillion, I was joking as I wrote, no offense meant.12:08
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Jester45http://de.kontron.com/index.php?id=226&cat=48&productid=20712:09
Jester45tuxcrafter: look at that12:09
tuxcrafteroke12:09
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maxamillioni know i know12:10
Jester45that owns12:10
tuxcrafterJester45: that is not mini-itx 17x17 :-P12:10
Jester45lol12:10
Jester45still its the best thing ever12:11
maxamillionwell ... i need to run ... bbl12:11
tuxcrafterJester45: I want to be ablle to do 3D texture rendering on a mini-itx default low power onboard chip12:12
tuxcrafterin theory the CN700 and CN400 from VIA can do this but the openchrome driver can not do this12:13
Jester45humm12:13
tuxcrafternow i am going to try the SiS 741CX12:13
tuxcrafterif that not work i have to move to very expensive intel systems :-(12:14
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tuxcrafteri have to go now12:18
tuxcrafterbye12:18
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graziewhat's all this firefox... bon echo.... stuff then?12:19
Jester45??12:19
grazieexactly12:20
Jester45lol12:20

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