[12:26] <maxamillion> grazie: lol
[12:26] <maxamillion> links2 ;)
[12:26] <yaccin> i dont like opera ^^
[12:26] <hyper_ch> grazie: but if you follow your dogma of being light then you should use lynx... :)
[12:26] <maxamillion> yaccin: me either ... i use firefox because i can't find one i like better
[12:26] <grazie> hyper_ch: no dogma here
[12:26] <yaccin> i love konqueror
[12:27] <yaccin> firefox comes second
[12:27] <hyper_ch> for the same reasons I use a lot of kde appz because the rest just doesn't compare
[12:27] <yaccin> :D
[12:27] <hyper_ch> konqui is really great... I love the split view thing :)
[12:27] <yaccin> hyper_ch: yes, kde is so great :) i cant wait for KDE 4 :D
[12:27] <grazie> I quite like dillo though
[12:27] <hyper_ch> I not only have a 2-pane manager but multi-pane one
[12:27] <skywalker> I like kde too this is as much of the Gnome I ever used
[12:28] <grazie> PGraves: most sound problem are due to mixer. Have you checked?
[12:28] <PGraves> can anyone help me get sound on my new Ubuntu install?
[12:28] <hyper_ch> and of course fish:// with kate is also nice
[12:28] <yaccin> i tried dolhpin, and i also like it, but its not as good as konqueror atm
[12:28] <yaccin> but it has some nice features :)
[12:28] <PGraves> grazie, I am a complete novice... I have checked some things that google listed, but I can't say definitively that I've checked anything correctly
[12:28] <hyper_ch> anyway, I'm off to bed... thx maxamillion for helping with the tax thingy
[12:28] <yaccin> and i dont like gaim, because kopete is so much better :)
[12:28] <grazie> nite hyper_ch
[12:29] <yaccin> gnight
[12:29] <yaccin> brb
[12:29] <grazie> PGraves: can you open a terminal?
[12:29] <PGraves> yes
[12:29] <skywalker> I benn useing Mozzila
[12:29] <PGraves> open
[12:29] <skywalker> been*
[12:30] <grazie> PGraves: type in 'alsamixer'
[12:30] <PGraves> grazie, can I message you in private? (to avoid flooding this room)
[12:30] <PGraves> should I do that as the current user or root?
[12:30] <grazie> PGraves: user should be fine
[12:31] <grazie> PGraves: ok?
[12:32] <skywalker> sndconfig
[12:32] <skywalker> dont work
[12:32] <grazie> PGraves: do any of the channels have MM at the bottom? Particularly the Master and PCM?
[12:32] <PGraves> alsamixer is up
[12:32] <PGraves> Master Mono says MM
[12:33] <PGraves> Surround says MM
[12:33] <PGraves> Center says MM
[12:33] <PGraves> LFE says MM
[12:33] <PGraves> Line says MM
[12:33] <PGraves> Mic says MM
[12:33] <grazie> PGraves: ok stop
[12:33] <PGraves> k
[12:33] <skywalker> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[12:33] <grazie> skywalker: hang on momemtn
[12:33] <skywalker> :-)
[12:34] <skywalker> its alright
[12:34] <skywalker> I ahve no output
[12:34] <skywalker> have*
[12:34] <grazie> PGraves: you can use the arrow key to move to different channels
[12:34] <grazie> PGraves: on master enter m
[12:35] <PGraves> I did that and it changed the description at the top to say "Master[Off] "  it did just say "Master"
[12:36] <grazie> PGraves: that should probably do it. What sound card do you have...it should say at the top
[12:37] <PGraves> Card: Intel ICH
[12:37] <PGraves> Chip: Realtek ALC655 rev 0
[12:38] <grazie> PGraves: OK. Don't exit and play a media file with another app
[12:38] <PGraves> by default, a Wav should be able to be played correct?
[12:39] <grazie> PGraves: usually yes
[12:40] <grazie> PGraves: there's a load of media files in the example directory of your home folder
[12:40] <PGraves> Totem says I need a decoder to play a Wav file
[12:41] <grazie> PGraves: look in the examples folder for ogg files
[12:41] <PGraves> I opened an ogg file
[12:41] <grazie> sound?
[12:41] <PGraves> it acts like its playing, but I dont hear anything
[12:41] <Darkkish> uhhh
[12:41] <Darkkish> what is mped?
[12:42] <Darkkish> because i just accedentally installed it with apt-get
[12:45] <grazie> PGraves: all you sound hardware works?
[12:45] <maxamillion> !mped | Darkkish
[12:45] <ubotu> darkkish: mped: Minimum Profit, a programmer's text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.17-1 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 436 kB
[12:45] <Darkkish> lol
[12:45] <Darkkish> well thats not so bad :p
[12:45] <maxamillion> :)
[12:45] <PGraves> I have a brand new motherboard with onboard sound and I have tested the speakers on another computer
[12:45] <maxamillion> Darkkish: worst case ... just remove it ;)
[12:45] <Darkkish> so i compiled and installed the mpd client plugin for the xfce panel
[12:45] <Darkkish> but when i mouse over it (like to press a button) it dissapears off the panel...
[12:45] <grazie> PGraves: list all the channel that have mm at the bottom after mic
[12:45] <Darkkish> any idea why?
[12:45] <maxamillion> Darkkish: uhmmm ... not a clue, but that sounds like quote the bug
[12:45] <Darkkish> whats that?
[12:45] <Darkkish> oh quite
[12:45] <Darkkish> yes
[12:45] <Darkkish> its irritating.
[12:45] <Darkkish> also
[12:45] <Darkkish> wavelan
[12:45] <Darkkish> wont detect my wifi device...
[12:45] <Darkkish> even though i'm using it to connect to the internet
[12:48] <maxamillion> Darkkish: what is wavelan?
[12:48] <PGraves> Mic Boos, Phone, Aux, Duplicat
[12:48] <grazie> PGraves: what number is above master and pcm?
[12:48] <PGraves> Master is 77
[12:48] <Darkkish> !wavelan
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wavelan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <PGraves> PCM is 84
[12:48] <Darkkish> !xfce4-wavelan-plugin
[12:48] <Darkkish> ...
[12:48] <ubotu> xfce4-wavelan-plugin: wavelan status plugin for the Xfce4 panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 140 kB, installed size 668 kB
[12:48] <Darkkish> there
[12:48] <Darkkish> Written by Benedikt Meurer, this plugin is used to display stats from a wireless lan interface (signal state, signal quality, network name (SSID)). It supports NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Linux.
[12:49] <grazie> PGraves: well the sound driver is installed and mixer looks good
[12:49] <grazie> PGraves: all I can suggest is working through the troubleshooting guide
[12:49] <grazie> !sound | PGraves
[12:49] <ubotu> PGraves: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:55] <grazie> maxamillion: I think I upset hyper
[12:59] <maxamillion> grazie: how so?
[12:59] <grazie> maxamillion: kde apps
[12:59] <Darkkish> so nobody knows why i'm getting the error with xfce4-mpc-plugin ?
[12:59] <maxamillion> grazie: come to -offtopic real quick please
[12:59] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpc-plugin
[12:59] <PGraves> Grazie, could it have anything to do with the fact that I installed teh AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[12:59] <Darkkish> >_<
[12:59] <grazie> PGraves: you have AMD64 then?
[12:59] <Dylan_> More help needed.
[01:00] <Dylan_> I burned the disk, it was working, but i got to the partitioning harddrive part, and it won't work.
[01:00] <PGraves> yes
[01:05] <grazie> PGraves: could be that setting up an AMD64 alsa driver is more problematic
[01:05] <grazie> someone here may know... maxamillion?
[01:05] <maxamillion> what's up?
[01:05] <maxamillion> sorry ... i was configing a server
[01:05] <grazie> maxamillion: is setting up alsa on amd64 problematic do you know?
[01:05] <Darkkish> is your xubuntu 32 bit?
[01:05] <Darkkish> !ping
[01:05] <ubotu> pong
[01:05] <maxamillion> i have both 64 and 32 bit running
[01:05] <maxamillion> grazie: not at all
[01:05] <maxamillion> grazie: well ... not for me
[01:06] <grazie> PGraves: dunno
[01:09] <PGraves> brb
[01:09] <maxamillion> had a terminal freeze on me so i thought i would Xkill it ... but then it fragged all my other term windows, so irssi went bye bye :(
[01:12] <Darkkish> maxamillion why wouldn't my xfce app recognize my wifi card even when i have it set to eth1 (my working broadcom wifi card)
[01:12] <maxamillion> Darkkish: you need wifi-radar
[01:13] <maxamillion> sudo aptitude install wifi-radar
[01:13] <maxamillion> !wifi-radar | Darkkish
[01:13] <ubotu> darkkish: wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:13] <Darkkish> uh.. k
[01:13] <Darkkish> does it show in the sys tray?
[01:14] <maxamillion> Darkkish: no ... you would need network-manager-gnome for that
[01:14] <Darkkish> !network-manager-gnome | Darkkish
[01:14] <maxamillion> Darkkish: and then add nm-applet to your auto started applications
[01:14] <Darkkish> nm-applet?
[01:15] <maxamillion> Darkkish: yeah ... its the panel plugin for network-manager-gnome
[01:15] <Darkkish> k
[01:15] <Darkkish> !nm-applet
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <PGraves> I went through the troubleshooting guide... anyone else have any ideas for not having sound on a FRESH install of Ubuntu 6.01 AMD64?
[01:16] <Darkkish> PGraves i had that problem
[01:16] <Darkkish> but...
[01:16] <Darkkish> only inside of wine
[01:16] <Darkkish> other than that my sound worked fine
[01:16] <Darkkish> what kind of mobo do you have?
[01:16] <PGraves> I cant play sound in anything
[01:17] <PGraves> its a Biostar GeForce 6100 AM2 Motherboard with an nForce 410 chipset
[01:17] <Darkkish> interesting
[01:17] <Darkkish> i have no idea, but it might be related to nforce
[01:18] <Darkkish> MagicFab i can't find nm-applet
[01:19] <Darkkish> maxamillion*
[01:19] <maxamillion> Darkkish: did you install network-manager-gnome?
[01:21] <Darkkish> yes
[01:21] <grazie> PGraves: have you updated the software since installation?
[01:21] <maxamillion> Darkkish: Alt+F2 and enter nm-applet
[01:21] <Darkkish> i can run it, but i don't see anything
[01:21] <Lars_G> Are there no "official" debs for 4.4.0 ?
[01:21] <PGraves> no i have not installed any updates to anything except kde
[01:22] <Darkkish> k maxamillion now what?
[01:22] <grazie> Lars_G: nothing for edgy that I know of
[01:22] <Lars_G> gratzie grazie
[01:22] <maxamillion> Darkkish: did it show up in the panel?
[01:22] <Darkkish> um i don't see it anywhere...
[01:22] <grazie> PGraves: sound works on kubuntu?
[01:23] <maxamillion> Darkkish: hmmm... lemme get you a link
[01:28] <maxamillion> Darkkish: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239178
[01:30] <PGraves> no
[01:30] <PGraves> sound doesnt work in gnome or kde
[01:32] <maxamillion> PGraves: you tried edgy by any chance?
[01:34] <Darkkish> maxamillion it appears to have worked... except it just auto logged out
[01:35] <maxamillion> Darkkish: that's different
[01:36] <Darkkish> maxamillion yeah according to this it could be related to a number of things.. including low diskspace (not likely) or program malfunctions
[01:36] <maxamillion> :(
[01:37] <PGraves> Im going to go try a different motherboard CPU, & Memory
[01:37] <yaccin> what was that mediaplayer like amarok called? ^^
[01:37] <PGraves> :) It helps that I run a computer shop :)
[01:37] <maxamillion> PGraves: well that's conventient :)
[01:38] <maxamillion> yaccin: its on the tip of my thought process i just cant remember ... gimme a min.
[01:38] <Darkkish> maxamillion how do i log out of an xterm console?
[01:38] <Darkkish> nvm
[01:38] <Darkkish> 'exit'
[01:38] <PGraves> Can I just Move the hard drive to the other setup, or will I have to reinstall the OS like I would in Windows if I replaced teh Motherboard
[01:38] <yaccin> something like exile?
[01:38] <Darkkish> i seem to have fixed it except... i have 3 instances of that program in my task bar
[01:39] <Darkkish> >_>
[01:39] <maxamillion> Darkkish: :(
[01:39] <Darkkish> oh well
[01:39] <Darkkish> i know how to fix that.
[01:39] <maxamillion> PGraves: uhmmm... not sure, try it out and see
[01:39] <yaccin> hmm does xfce use gtk1? o.O
[01:39] <maxamillion> yaccin: no
[01:39] <yaccin> hmm
[01:39] <maxamillion> gtk2
[01:39] <yaccin> this gtk-theme looks kinda ugly
[01:39] <yaccin> not like it should
[01:39] <yaccin> :(
[01:40] <maxamillion> which one?
[01:40] <yaccin> vistabut
[01:40] <yaccin> (yes, i know) :D
[01:40] <maxamillion> .....
[01:41] <yaccin> remembered that mediaplayer? ^^
[01:42] <maxamillion> workin on it .... :/
[01:42] <yaccin> :)
[01:43] <maxamillion> yaccin: http://www.exaile.org/trac <---?
[01:43] <yaccin> ah thx
[01:43] <yaccin> :)
[01:43] <maxamillion> ;)
[01:45] <yaccin> so any clues with fixing that theme? ^^
[01:45] <maxamillion> yaccin: not really .... i don't do much theme stuffs
[01:46] <BFTD> where's the ubuntu checksum?
[01:46] <BFTD> argh
[01:46] <maxamillion> lol
[01:48] <Darkkish> also when i restarted my internet connection stopped working >_> well.. really i just can't connect to my router...
[01:49] <grazie> PGraves: you can just the move the hard drive. you may have a few driver issues, but you can sort all that out with the live cd
[01:49] <maxamillion> Darkkish: sudo dhclient
[01:50] <Darkkish> well... i think the connection is fine
[01:50] <Darkkish> I just can't connect
[01:50] <Darkkish> to my router >.<
[01:50] <maxamillion> :(
[01:52] <yaccin> hmm i get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0" but it is installed :(
[01:54] <maxamillion> ....?
[01:55] <yaccin> when i try to install exaile
[01:55] <maxamillion> oh ... hmmm
[01:55] <maxamillion> i dunno, i use xmms myself
[01:55] <yaccin> :/
[01:58] <Darkkish> maxamillion i got wifi working again
[01:58] <Darkkish> but networkmanager says "No network connection"
[01:58] <maxamillion> :(
[01:58] <maxamillion> i dunno to be honest
[01:58] <maxamillion> i gotta run, getting off work
[01:58] <Darkkish> mk
[02:00] <Darkkish> i hope when i go to work i can just sit around on IRC all day...
[02:06] <yaccin> i do :D
[02:25] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:46] <Darkkish> when i do alt + f10
[02:46] <Darkkish> alt f2 *
[02:46] <Darkkish> and type in synaptic
[02:46] <Darkkish> it says "starting without admin privs"
[02:46] <Darkkish> how can i make it ask for the password on startup (w/o using sudo)
[02:48] <jmichaelx> i am having a big problem getting sun-java6-bin installed. if someone could help me out, i would appreciate it. i am getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7875/
[02:55] <Darkkish> lalal
[02:55] <skywalker> !hey
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <Darkkish> !synaptic
[02:56] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:56] <skywalker> !rpm
[02:56] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:56] <skywalker> !ATP
[02:56] <ubotu> atp: text to PostScript converter with some C syntax highlighting. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-11 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:57] <grazie> Darkkish: you have a problem running synaptic from the menu?
[02:57] <Darkkish> atp = adenocinetriphosphate
[02:57] <Darkkish> grazie yeah from a custom menu
[02:58] <Darkkish> all i have for the command is "synaptic"
[02:58] <grazie> Darkkish: you need 'gksu synaptic'
[02:58] <Darkkish> and when it starts instead of prompting for a password it just says "running w/o admin privs"
[02:58] <Darkkish> gksu
[02:58] <Darkkish> thank you
[02:58] <grazie> np
[02:59] <Darkkish> grazie thats exactly what i wanted
[02:59] <skywalker> to run some programes you have to be in root wheir do I loggin to root?
[02:59] <skywalker> for the programe?
[02:59] <Darkkish> skywalker on the commandline?
[03:00] <skywalker> !no
[03:00] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[03:00] <Darkkish> running it from where?
[03:01] <skywalker> hey Darkkish you use wine?
[03:01] <skywalker> I like the new version
[03:02] <Darkkish> skywalker i used to
[03:02] <Darkkish> when i had linux on my main box
[03:02] <Darkkish> and played wow
[03:03] <skywalker> I use paltalk to talk to some familey paltalk is the only windows programe I use
[03:03] <Darkkish> i see
[03:03] <Darkkish> !paltalk
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paltalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <Darkkish> lol
[03:03] <Darkkish> !google
[03:03] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[03:03] <Darkkish> i've never heard of paltalk
[03:03] <skywalker> and it works with the new version but it is styll buggy because I cant  send pm's
[03:04] <Darkkish> what i do know
[03:04] <skywalker> but it starts and everything I think Iam missing some DLL's or something like that Iam styll working on it
[03:04] <Darkkish> is that all of the paltalk servers run linux, and all of the clients run windows, that seems kind of rediculous
[03:05] <skywalker> yes and all the people in the computer rooms are mean windows vista lovers
[03:05] <skywalker> lol
[03:05] <Darkkish> lol
[03:05] <Darkkish> vista is... Ok...
[03:06] <Darkkish> i havn't used it too much so far, but from what i have used, its all graphical and there is nothing that techincally impressive
[03:06] <skywalker> well Vista changed my digtial life
[03:07] <grazie> skywalker: swearing is not allowed on this channel
[03:08] <skywalker> ahhahaha
[03:08] <Darkkish> what?
[03:08] <Darkkish> oh lol
[03:08] <grazie> vista = bad language
[03:08] <Darkkish> sorry i'm slow
[03:09] <Darkkish> why grazie are you afraid of it?
[03:09] <grazie> i'm afraid of M$
[03:09] <Darkkish> lol
[03:10] <atarinox> does anybody here have experience with Samba and accessing Windows shared folders on a LAN
[03:11] <grazie> !samba | atarinox
[03:11] <ubotu> atarinox: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:11] <grazie> atarinox: no use?
[03:11] <Darkkish> what is it?
[03:11] <atarinox> grazie: i'm on that tutorial now
[03:13] <atarinox> i have a question about it though, if you can help....when they say: The Windows computer name is servername, this can be either an IP address or an assigned name....do they mean the actual shared folder name on the network, or the name of the workgroup itself, something like MSHOME
[03:14] <grazie> atarinox: I'm afraid I don't go near windows if at all possible....not much use to you
[03:14] <atarinox> oh damn
[03:14] <Darkkish> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lW8ndh5BU&mode=related&search=
[03:16] <skywalker> me grazie Iam scared too I ran Xetra Problems and I felt like a dum a#$%s with the littel dog and everything
[03:16] <skywalker> me to*
[03:17] <grazie> Darkkish: v.good
[03:20] <skywalker> I have to install the java runn time
[03:20] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mcd-panel
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mcd-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mdc-panel
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mdc-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <Darkkish> ...
[03:21] <skywalker> but I see the people's comments lol
[03:21] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpd-panel
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mpd-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpc-panel
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-mpc-panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <skywalker> !kde
[03:21] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:21] <Darkkish> wtf
[03:23] <Darkkish> oh
[03:23] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpc-plugin
[03:23] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpc-plugin | grazie
[03:23] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpd-plugin | grazie
[03:23] <Darkkish> crap
[03:23] <Darkkish> flood protection or something
[03:24] <Darkkish> !xfce4-mpc-plugin
[03:25] <Darkkish> i swear that worked earlier.
[03:25] <Darkkish> grazie have you heard of such a thing?
[03:26] <Darkkish> the mpc plugin
[03:26] <skywalker> ??
[03:26] <grazie> Darkkish: I know of it, yes
[03:27] <Darkkish> i can't get it to work
[03:27] <Darkkish> at all
[03:28] <Darkkish> i couldn't find it in the repository so i downloaded it and did ./configure and what not
[03:28] <Darkkish> and finally got it to show up on the add items to panel list
[03:28] <Darkkish> and i can add it to my panel
[03:28] <Darkkish> but when i click close, and then mouse over it, it just dissapears off my panel
[03:29] <Darkkish> maybe there is something better...
[03:30] <grazie> Darkkish: I don't use anything like that, but have you set up the server?
[03:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Darkkish: http://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-mpc-plugin/trunk/README has debugging/configuring options.
[03:31] <Darkkish> PuMpErNiCkLe thanks, how do i remove the current install?
[03:31] <soweto76> fixin to install on Dell Inspiron 2200 with 1.25 G RAM -- my wife's :( -- where is the best howto for dual boot with WinXPHome, please?
[03:31] <Darkkish> soweto76 its really simple
[03:31] <Darkkish> you just make sure to use the partition editor to create a seperate partition
[03:32] <Darkkish> then it automatically installs grub for dualboot
[03:32] <cellofellow> soweto76: install windows first
[03:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Darkkish: If you installed it via `make install`, then `make uninstall`.
[03:32] <cellofellow> then linux normally
[03:33] <soweto76> Darkkish, I don't know anything about windows eh -- does it need to be prepared?
[03:33] <cellofellow> that doesn't work with a lot of programs' makefiles.
[03:33] <Darkkish> PuMpErNiCkLe idk how to work make
[03:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cellofellow: If it isn't supported, then it'll error.
[03:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Darkkish: cd to the directory you built it in, then run that command.
[03:34] <cellofellow> yeah, and then you're screwed
[03:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yeah
[03:35] <Darkkish> i deleted the files i used to build it
[03:35] <Darkkish> oh wait maybe not
[03:36] <Darkkish> thank you
[03:38] <Darkkish> PuMpErNiCkLe where is a good list of xfce4 panel plugins/addons
[03:38] <Darkkish> !plugins
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <Darkkish> !xfce4-plugin
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/start
[03:39] <grazie> Darkkish: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:40] <soweto76> Darkkish, xfce.org --> links
[03:47] <Darkkish> does anyone use xfce4-applet?
[03:49] <skywalker> Darkkish what can you do with xfce that you cant do with other desktop's
[03:51] <atarinox> can someone help me setup windows folder sharing in LAN with samba?
[03:52] <soweto76> Darkkish, I have used it.  What's up?
[03:52] <soweto76> skywalker, I really like xfwm4
[03:53] <skywalker> 4?
[03:53] <Darkkish> soweto76 does it work good?
[03:53] <skywalker> I installed it but
[03:54] <soweto76> Darkkish, seems to be great but it uses gnome applets so you must have some installed eh.
[03:54] <skywalker> -get it
[03:54] <skywalker> I will
[03:59] <skywalker> 4?
[03:59] <skywalker> soweto
[04:00] <soweto76> skywalker, ?? for what did I use xfce4-applet?
[04:00] <skywalker> you got me confused with Darkkish
[04:00] <skywalker> hehe
[04:01] <soweto76> okeeleedokeelee
[04:01] <skywalker> you have to me say that
[04:02] <soweto76> skywalker, okeeleedokeelee
[04:02] <skywalker> please lets not
[04:02] <skywalker> hahah
[04:02] <soweto76> :)
[04:03] <skywalker> one thing I do, do well is joke
[04:03] <skywalker> dod od
[04:03] <soweto76> :)
[04:03] <skywalker> you want to see
[04:03] <skywalker> omg
[04:03] <soweto76> okeeleedokeelee
[04:04] <skywalker> I wipe my sweaty balls with a paper towel
[04:04] <skywalker> iam sorry
[04:04] <skywalker> HAHAH
[04:05] <atarinox> hi can somebody plz help me get access to shared folders on this windows network?
[04:05] <atarinox> i've got samba installed, now im stuck
[04:05] <soweto76> skywalker, No, I don't want to see!
[04:06] <skywalker> hooo I hope I dont have anymore problems because I wont get any help in here anymore and I wasent asking you to see it was asomething a wrote along time ago
[04:07] <skywalker> I*
[04:07] <Jester45> ??
[04:08] <Jester45> dont complain about bad help we are just users that want to give back to the community
[04:08] <skywalker> a joke* jester
[04:08] <soweto76> atarinox, linneighborhood or it's gtk fork
[04:09] <skywalker> the help in here is great Jester45 I wasent complaineing
[04:09] <skywalker> ] 
[04:09] <cellofellow> pyNeighborhood doesn't work here. Only LinNeighborhood
[04:09] <soweto76> atarinox, Thunar does not have the old xfsamba.  Nautilus(gnome) works well with smb
[04:10] <cellofellow> I got ROX working with sshfs and a simple hack of the program would get it running with SMBFS too.
[04:13] <atarinox> soweto76: i'm trying nautilus, can't get it to work
[04:15] <Darkkish> my wifi plugin isn't working
[04:16] <Darkkish> wavelan
[04:16] <Darkkish> !xfce4-wavelan
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfce4-wavelan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Darkkish> !xfce4-wavelan-plugin
[04:16] <ubotu> xfce4-wavelan-plugin: wavelan status plugin for the Xfce4 panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 140 kB, installed size 668 kB
[04:18] <Darkkish> does anyone know why wavelan isn't working?
[04:19] <Darkkish> its set to the right device but it says "No such WaveLAN device
[04:19] <Darkkish> "
[04:19] <Jester45> nope
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone using edgy try to reproduce an issue?
[04:26] <Admiral_Chicago> j1mc: the easy way of doing things :)
[04:26] <j1mc> :)
[04:27] <Jester45> i will try
[04:27] <j1mc> we just want to see if it still says, "welcome to xubuntu 6.06" when you install edgy.
[04:27] <j1mc> it should say that in firefox.
[04:27] <Jester45> yes it does
[04:27] <Jester45> thats been known sence pre stable edgy
[04:28] <Jester45> going from drapper to edgy they didnt have the man power to change the docs
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Jester45: care to comment on Bug #67966
[04:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67966 in xubuntu-docs "Xubuntu -- FIrefox home page still references 6.06" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67966
[04:28] <Jester45> only the package mangers could do thta but most didnt
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> does this on Feisty as well, or so j1mc says.
[04:28] <Jester45> Bug #1
[04:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[04:29] <j1mc> yeah, it says fixed, but i'm still seeing that when i install the nightlies.
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> j1mc: to be fair fix commited means it is commited in the SVN, doesn't mean the SVN matcheds the nightlys
[04:29] <j1mc> right . . .
[04:30] <j1mc> how long does it take to get to the nightlies, though?
[04:30] <Admiral_Chicago> especially in Doc work. right now I am doing system settings for kubuntu that will be commited to the SVN, then ran through editing, then synced
[04:30] <j1mc> it's been shown as "fixed" for over a month or so.
[04:30] <Admiral_Chicago> j1mc: not really sure, could ask richard in our channel
[04:35] <Jester45> hehe im connected to a torrent with the swarm speed is about 700mb/s
[04:35] <skywalker> I have a bunch of errors with this windows programe in wine
[04:35] <Jester45> many peers
[04:35] <Jester45> skywalker: does it run many programs that i used had errors but ran good
[04:38] <skywalker> iam trying to run paltalk to pm my brother and I cant pm him
[04:38] <skywalker> its running iam online
[04:38] <skywalker> but this is it its the programe
[04:38] <skywalker> not wine
[04:39] <skywalker> fixme:richedit:RichEditANSIWndProc WM_STYLECHANGING: stub
[04:39] <skywalker> I think I need this dll
[04:40] <Jester45> o sorryi meant does it run the program, many that i used had errors but ran fine
[04:40] <skywalker> yea its running and Iam online but I cant send a pm or go into any rooms
[04:41] <skywalker> I need to do rescerch
[04:41] <skywalker> on the dll's
[04:41] <Jester45> you might need to add the dll
[04:41] <skywalker> fixme:richedit:RichEditANSIWndProc WM_STYLECHANGING: stub
[04:42] <skywalker> this error is like 5 times
[04:42] <skywalker> this is the only windows programe I use
[04:42] <skywalker> that is it
[04:43] <skywalker> I like the new kde alot
[04:43] <Jester45> are you using the newest wine or the one in the repoes
[04:43] <skywalker> new est I think 32
[04:43] <skywalker> newest(*
[04:44] <skywalker> wine-0.9.31
[04:44] <Jester45> !wine
[04:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:45] <Jester45> !info wine
[04:45] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[04:45] <Jester45> heh newer than repo must be uptodate
[04:45] <Jester45> or at least closer
[04:46] <skywalker> yea I got it this morning
[04:46] <skywalker> their is a good info on how to install it in ubuntu
[04:47] <[187ci] marc> Hello?
[04:47] <Jester45> hi?
[04:47] <[187ci] marc> Can you help me with something?
[04:47] <Jester45> i can try
[04:47] <[187ci] marc> I'll pm you
[04:48] <[187ci] marc> I can't
[04:48] <[187ci] marc> can you om me?
[04:48] <[187ci] marc> pm*
[04:49] <Jester45> you can ask in here
[04:49] <cellofellow> you can't pm at all unless you do /msg nickserv register apassword
[04:49] <Jester45> good job
[04:50] <[187ci] marc> Thanks
[04:50] <Jester45> [187ci] marc: try asking in the channel so others could anser if they know
[05:18] <[187ci] marc> I installed xbuntu, and everything went fine. Till I had to login. I can login but few seconds later, I get back to the login panel
[05:19] <[187ci] marc> I installed xbuntu, and everything went fine. Till I had to login. I can login but few seconds later, I get back to the login panel-Help?
[05:19] <Jester45> he can get into a failsafe terminal so... its xfce and it happens when he runs xfwm4 & xfdesktop & xfce4-panel
[05:20] <cellofellow> still, may be X.
[05:20] <Jester45> cellofellow: but the failsafe terminal uses x right
[05:20] <cellofellow> does it?
[05:21] <Jester45> i think the gdm uses it
[05:21] <Jester45> HAHAHHAHAHA: having fun changing names?
[05:22] <Jester45> or BFTD now
[05:22] <BFTD> its in another channel
[05:22] <Jester45> aka Commander-Crowe
[05:22] <BFTD> I've obtained ops
[05:22] <BFTD> but I can only say 1 thing before i get banned
[05:22] <BFTD> brb
[05:22] <[187ci] marc> lol
[05:22] <BFTD> gotta switch
[05:23] <[187ci] marc> Thats 3 things
[05:23] <cellofellow> Jester45: affirmitive. It runs an Xterm. running xfwm4 & works fine.
[05:23] <Jester45> cellofellow: i knew it was xterm
[05:23] <cellofellow> kk
[05:23] <Jester45> but he is having problems... it auto logs out
[05:24] <cellofellow> perhaps if he runs startxfce4 in the failsafe terminal thing.
[05:24] <cellofellow> be able to debug it.
[05:24] <[187ci] marc> once I login, the desktop appears and everything, but 5 secs it loads back to login page
[05:24] <Jester45> but he gets loged out
[05:25] <cellofellow> shouldn't do that in an xterm thingy
[05:25] <Jester45> tell him how to do it
[05:25] <Jester45> im doing a report
[05:25] <[187ci] marc> :P
[05:26] <cellofellow> open a failsafe terminal session, and run the command `startxfce4`
[05:26] <[187ci] marc> ok
[05:27] <[187ci] marc> it crashed again
[05:27] <[187ci] marc> but
[05:28] <cellofellow> what'd it say?
[05:28] <[187ci] marc> in the consule it said, graphic something......0x5b
[05:28] <[187ci] marc> I could not read the whole thing
[05:28] <[187ci] marc> it disappeared too quickly
[05:29] <Darkkish> where are program icons located?
[05:29] <cellofellow> can you still scrollback?
[05:29] <[187ci] marc> no
[05:29] <[187ci] marc> it goes back to login
[05:29] <Jester45> press pageup/down
[05:29] <Jester45> o
[05:29] <cellofellow> Darkkish: all over, usually /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/<themename>/<size>/apps
[05:30] <[187ci] marc> ?
[05:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> [187ci] marc: What video card are you using?
[05:30] <Darkkish> thanks cellofellow it was the 2nd one i was looking for
[05:30] <[187ci] marc> I have no clue, I built that junk a while ago. but it have onbord video card
[05:31] <[187ci] marc> my mother board
[05:31] <[187ci] marc> brb I'll check
[05:31] <cellofellow> [187ci] marc: do it again, but this time run the command `screen` before running the startxfce4. That will keep the terminal session alive for later inspection.
[05:32] <Darkkish> except i can't find the open office icons
[05:33] <cellofellow> oh, umm, they're somewhere else. I think in the gnome or the hicolor themes.
[05:33] <[187ci] marc> 3dfx ring a bell?
[05:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Voodoo card, then.
[05:34] <[187ci] marc> yes
[05:34] <[187ci] marc> junk card
[05:34] <[187ci] marc> :)
[05:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> That's a known issue - there's a bug report, and, apparently, a patch, although the patch hasn't made it into stable, I think.
[05:34] <cellofellow> like I said, could be X doing it. :)
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/68291
[05:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68291 in xorg "GDM Restarts after Desktop loads while using tdfx driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[05:35] <cellofellow> does KDM do it?
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Using vesa instead of the 3dfx driver will let you use the GUI normally.
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cellofellow: Yeah.  It's a driver issue, not a login manager issue.
[05:36] <BFTD> what card does he have?
[05:36] <[187ci] marc> voodoo
[05:36] <Darkkish> cellofellow can you help me find hte oo.org icons
[05:36] <cellofellow> k. one sec let me fire up catfish
[05:36] <[187ci] marc> I have a on board video, on the motherboard. Should I try that?
[05:37] <BFTD> [187ci] marc best thing to do is go to newegg.com and buy a really cheap nvidia card
[05:37] <Jester45> etc/share/applicatons/oo.deskop
[05:37] <BFTD> jsut nothing below GeForce 5's
[05:37] <[187ci] marc> I have the 8800GTx
[05:37] <Jester45> .desktop
[05:37] <Darkkish> !catfish] 
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about catfish]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <Darkkish> !catfish
[05:37] <BFTD> 0_0
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about catfish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <Jester45> open with mousepad and you will find them
[05:37] <BFTD> [187ci] marc then whats your problem?
[05:37] <[187ci] marc> Thats on my windows machine
[05:37] <[187ci] marc> nvm
[05:37] <BFTD> oh I see
[05:37] <BFTD> anyways
[05:38] <BFTD> same advice
[05:38] <Darkkish> Jester45 that directory doesn't even exist
[05:38] <cellofellow> Darkkish: a search-engine frontend written by Kalikiana
[05:38] <david__> Items from my panel (dock) turned up missing. Anyone seen this before?
[05:38] <david__> I can readd them, but I wonder what happened...
[05:39] <H264> Hi
[05:39] <cellofellow> Darkkish: they're in here: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps
[05:39] <[187ci] marc> I did install in text base
[05:39] <cellofellow> david__: happens now and again.
[05:39] <Darkkish> oh thanks cellofellow thought i checked there but i guess not
[05:39] <cellofellow> david__: just a little odd. One that dissappears most is the Trash.
[05:40] <david__> cellofellow: Is this documented as a bug anywhere?
[05:40] <cellofellow> Darkkish: ok, :)
[05:40] <cellofellow> dunno
[05:40] <Jester45> Darkkish: it was usr not etc
[05:42] <H264> mind if I ask a (dumb) question?
[05:42] <Jester45> no
[05:43] <H264> I am useing 6.10 xubuntu and I need to figure out how to use the (dial up 56K) modem
[05:44] <Jester45> menu ->system -> netowrking -> modem connection -> properties
[05:44] <Jester45> might be it
[05:44] <H264> I found that...
[05:45] <H264> but it gives me a list of ports... which one? and how do I dile up?
[05:47] <gopp> jo
[05:47] <H264> nobody likes n00bs, not even me :)
[05:47] <gopp> hi
[05:47] <H264> hi
[05:47] <Jester45> not sure
[05:47] <H264> hmm
[05:47] <Jester45> hi
[05:47] <Jester45> !dailup
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dailup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <gopp> !dialup
[05:47] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:47] <Jester45> !dialup
[05:47] <BFTD> what do I need to install to get graveman to burn .mp3's to cd?
[05:48] <jdrake> palbearer
[05:48] <cellofellow> hehe
[05:48] <gopp> !yaboot
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yaboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <[187ci] marc> lol
[05:49] <BFTD> how do i get a G3 to boot from cd?
[05:49] <cellofellow> !botsnack
[05:49] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:49] <jdrake> BFTD: You have not specified if you are trying to burn mp3s to a cd as a data disk or a cd audio disk.
[05:49] <cellofellow> !ppc
[05:49] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.
[05:50] <jdrake> BFTD: If it is a bootable cd in the drive, hold down 'c'
[05:50] <BFTD> jdrake, as a audio
[05:50] <gopp> cellofellow can't get yaboot to load
[05:50] <cellofellow> what is yaboot, pray tell.
[05:50] <jdrake> I don't know about 'graveman', but I have used k3b and had all the regular mp3 support installed as told in the guides.
[05:50] <gopp> it like grub for ppc
[05:50] <gopp> a bootloader
[05:50] <[187ci] marc> You think dapper drake might work  with the voodoo card?
[05:51] <cellofellow> ok
[05:52] <[187ci] marc> ?
[05:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> [187ci] marc: Your current install will work if you use the 'vesa' driver instead of the 3dfx driver.
[05:52] <cellofellow> vesa? ouch!
[05:52] <[187ci] marc> rofl
[05:52] <[187ci] marc> back to the floppy disk
[05:53] <[187ci] marc> jk
[05:53] <[187ci] marc> is that the only way?
[05:53] <[187ci] marc> maybe the refresh rates are too high
[05:54] <grazie> [187ci] marc: it's a known bug
[05:55] <grazie> gopp: hi there
[05:55] <[187ci] marc> what
[05:55] <[187ci] marc> the voodoo crap
[05:55] <[187ci] marc> I mean card
[05:55] <[187ci] marc> :)
[05:56] <grazie> gopp: did you find out whether your mac support thart 160g disk?
[05:56] <grazie> [187ci] marc: the voodoo card driver don't work. You can use the vesa driver instead
[05:57] <[187ci] marc> do I have to dl it/
[05:57] <[187ci] marc> or it is in the cmos
[05:57] <david__> gopp: What's your question?
[05:59] <[187ci] marc> vesa driver come with the disk?
[05:59] <grazie> [187ci] marc: you only need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf..that's it
[05:59] <[187ci] marc> :P
[06:00] <gopp> grazie it does
[06:00] <gopp> grazie I was able to mount it
[06:00] <gopp> under yellow dog
[06:00] <gopp> just right know
[06:00] <grazie> [187ci] marc: when you get to the login screen hit alt+ctrl+f1
[06:01] <[187ci] marc> well I was in terminal
[06:01] <grazie> gopp: have you not looked in the specs though?
[06:01] <gopp> and I used
[06:01] <gopp> pdisk it showed it
[06:01] <[187ci] marc> safemode terminal
[06:01] <gopp> read and write to it
[06:01] <[187ci] marc> samething right?
[06:02] <grazie> [187ci] marc: i thought you got logged out?
[06:02] <[187ci] marc> I did
[06:02] <[187ci] marc> only when in normal mode
[06:02] <grazie> ok
[06:02] <[187ci] marc> of xfce
[06:02] <[187ci] marc> or
[06:02] <grazie> sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:03] <grazie> [187ci] marc: ^^
[06:03] <[187ci] marc> Thanks <3
[06:04] <gopp> brg
[06:04] <gopp> brb
[06:04] <grazie> [187ci] marc: sorted?
[06:04] <[187ci] marc> not yet, my computer is off
[06:05] <[187ci] marc> but I am sure that is what the probelm is
[06:05] <H264> umm, does the IRQ number for the modem have anything to do with the COM port number?
[06:05] <[187ci] marc> If that fails, i'll come back here tomarrow
[06:05] <[187ci] marc> Peace out, and thanks for the help.
[06:10] <grazie> gopp: As the ydl is in bad shape, your quickest & easiest solution would be to take out all the old disks
[06:11] <grazie> gopp: make the new disk the master drive and just install xubuntu again. Easy enough to put the disks back in and recover your data after installation
[07:00] <j1mc> check out all of these awexome tests:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Current
[07:00] <j1mc> we just need more AMD64 testers
[07:08] <grazie> j1mc: good news
[07:08] <j1mc> yeah.
[07:08] <posingaspopular> j1mc: hit me up on a PM
[07:08] <grazie> j1mc: does this mean you've given up hope on ppc?
[07:09] <j1mc> grazie, i think i need to report the test results via launchpad somehow, though.
[07:09] <j1mc> i don't think we've given up on PPC.  i guess we need more testers for that, though.
[07:10] <grazie> j1mc: there's a set of tracking bugs for that
[07:10] <j1mc> where at?  i just found some stuff, but launchpad is down for now.
[07:10] <grazie> lemme check
[07:10] <j1mc> thanks.  :)
[07:15] <grazie> j1mc: um...launchpad is offline
[07:16] <j1mc> yeah.  :(
[07:17] <s|k> what's a good rss reader for xubuntu?
[07:19] <grazie> j1mc: when launchpad is back up I think you can link to the test tracking bugs from below
[07:19] <grazie> j1mc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ReportingResults.....The Reporting Results section
[07:21] <j1mc> thanks, grazie.  i'll check out the test tracking section.
[08:08] <X704> would it be likely that somebody will provide a post-instulation program to install drivers not in the instulation?
[08:09] <X704> or is that not very feasible?
[08:10] <grazie> X704: the system has an inbuilt machanism for loading drivers
[08:12] <X704> hmm
[08:13] <X704> to what extent does it goto?
[08:13] <grazie> X704: what's the problem?
[08:13] <X704> heh, the internel 56K modem
[08:14] <grazie> you've installed the driver outside the package manager?
[08:15] <X704> umm, not yet
[08:16] <grazie> when you have just add the name of the driver module to /etc/modules....that's it
[08:16] <X704> ok
[08:16] <grazie> the driver will then be loaded on every boot
[08:17] <X704> oh, ok...
[08:17] <X704> it looks like this is a package installer
[08:18] <grazie> ?
[08:19] <X704> err, installes with the package installer?
[08:19] <X704> lol, I am too new at this
[08:20] <grazie> synaptic, aptitude or apt-get are the package management tools (whichever suites best)
[08:29] <X704> jeeze
[08:30] <X704> linuxant wants $20 just so I can use this old modem
[08:32] <X704> I could probably not get $20 for the whole computer
[10:18] <TheSheep> hello folks
[10:41] <kumamoto> hello
[10:48] <TheSheep> hi kumamoto
[11:27] <kumamoto> wonder if anyone has issues with using mplayer video gl1 or gl2 mine is kind a shaky
[11:27] <gabkdll1> Hi all. Is there a file that keeps track of which packages I have explicitely installed? I am thinking it could be of great help for cleaning up packages that I don't use anymore.#
[11:31] <gabkdll1> kumamoto: I also have trouble with mplayer, but I use the default output driver
[11:32] <gabkdll1> xv I think
[11:32] <gabkdll1> rebooting seems to help
[11:33] <gabkdll1> maybe it has to do with my using mencoder in a cron job to record from my TV card?
[11:36] <TheSheep> gabkdll1: you can run dpkg -l to get that list
[11:36] <gabkdll1> cool, thanks TheSheep
[11:39] <kumamoto> my xv x11 work fine but switched to gl1 it is overstock
[11:40] <kumamoto> I mean whatever am watching becomes jittery and has delayed sound
[11:41] <gabkdll1> My experience is that gl drivers require more CPU
[12:41] <kumamoto> guess my 1.5Ghz athlon is no match
[12:45] <gabkdll1> TheSheep: it looks like dpkg -l lists all the packages I have installed on my system. I would prefer to have a minamal list to remove, so that I can get rid of dependencies with apt-get autoremove
[12:46] <gabkdll1> but I guess if that is not possible, I shall have to reinstall, or is there a better way?
[01:22] <yaccin> !resolution
[01:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <gemini82> Hello, so I want to change the theme of the KDE applications, how do i do that?
[02:42] <grazie> pm ubotu !log
[03:01] <will> hi?
[03:02] <TheSheep> hello will
[03:02] <will> hi sheep
[03:02] <will> sorry for the bad grammer in the last message. had to type 1 handed
[03:03] <TheSheep> hm?
[03:03] <will> I came here to see if I could get some understanding on what is going wrong with my graphical issue.
[03:04] <TheSheep> well, you can always ask, in the worst case we will tell you to google ;)
[03:04] <will> sorry, I'm a little careful about my grammer cause I'm deaf and if I'm not careful, I'll have a hard time writing things properly
[03:04] <will> lol
[03:04] <TheSheep> will: so what's wrong with your graphics?
[03:05] <will> well basically I've finally! fixed the resolution of my xubuntu to ~1024x746 but now the screen have the slow updating line that goes downward. do you know what I mean?
[03:05] <TheSheep> as if the image was refreshed ery slowly?
[03:06] <will> yeah
[03:06] <TheSheep> will: what is your graphics card and what driver do you use for it?
[03:06] <TheSheep> will: tell me if you don't know, I will tell you how to check :)
[03:07] <will> I'm researching on this but cause my internet subscription end today, I feel that it may be quicker to ask it here.   I don't know how to find the graphical info, do I look into the xorg.conf?
[03:07] <TheSheep> will: yes, xorg.conf will tell you which driver you use
[03:07] <will> I had a radeon 9550 but I had to take it out to let my xubuntu cd work and install. not sure what gona happen if I put it back in.
[03:08] <will> ok thanks
[03:08] <TheSheep> will: type "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:09] <TheSheep> will: type "lspci | grep VGA" to see the make and model of your graphics card
[03:09] <will> ok, what does that "grep" do? (just wondering)
[03:09] <TheSheep> will: picks the line that contains the given word
[03:09] <TheSheep> will: something like searching
[03:09] <TheSheep> will: very handy
[03:10] <will> ok, I just scrolled through it and found it lol. basically it says that the card is a generic video card and the driver is vesa.
[03:10] <TheSheep> will: that explains it -- the vesa driver is incredibly slow
[03:11] <TheSheep> will: but it's universal -- will work for any grphics card
[03:11] <TheSheep> will: but to get better performance, use the driver for your card
[03:11] <will> ok thanks for letting me know. how do I fix this?
[03:11] <will> ok, would it be better for me to install the radeon 9550 video card?
[03:12] <TheSheep> will: if it's radeon, there are howtos on the ubuntu forum on how to make them working
[03:12] <TheSheep> !ati | will
[03:12] <ubotu> will: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <TheSheep> will: personally I don't have experience with radeons
[03:12] <will> ok thanks.
[03:12] <will> I need to get nvidia next time.
[03:13] <TheSheep> nvidia usually has less problems under Linux
[03:13] <TheSheep> still not perfect
[03:14] <will> yeah, it also have less problems with blender and other games from what I've seen.
[03:15] <will> ok, brb. installing the video card. wish me luck
[03:27] <yaccin> !keyboard
[03:27] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[03:30] <yaccin> hmm my > key isnt working
[03:30] <yaccin> o.O
[03:31] <yaccin> good luck ^^
[03:32] <will> yeah lol
[03:32] <will> i needed to do it so I could get rid of the slow graphical update rate
[03:35] <yaccin> ati sucks :/
[03:36] <will> yeah :/ this one I got was a impluse spending before I did any research on it.
[03:38] <will> brb, restarting X
[04:20] <ChromeAngel> good afternnon
[04:21] <ChromeAngel> i'd like to enquire about the minimum spec necissary to run xubuntu
[04:21] <ChromeAngel> and if there is a specific distro for laptop computers
[04:22] <Taxman> how minimum are you talking?
[04:22] <ChromeAngel> a 400mhz laptop
[04:22] <Taxman> I have 128mb ram and an 800 mhz pIII and it's a little slow but usable
[04:22] <Taxman> memory is more the problem than the processor
[04:23] <ChromeAngel> I think it should be OK ram-wize
[04:23] <ChromeAngel> I tried an ubuntu live CD in it and that rna like a slide show
[04:23] <Taxman> 256mb+ and you'd be very happy with xubuntu
[04:24] <Taxman> the livecd's are always slow though
[04:25] <ChromeAngel> yeah, well they would be
[04:25] <ChromeAngel> i'll DL the desktop verison of 6.10 then, see how that goes
[04:26] <Taxman> xubuntu will definitely run better in lower memory
[04:27] <ChromeAngel> cheers for that anyway
[04:27] <ChromeAngel> bye all
[05:17] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone here
[05:17] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ?
[05:17] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on an issue I was having
[05:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I installed edgy on an older machine
[05:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> 2100+ 256MB Nforce1
[05:18] <maxamillion> Lord_Maynoth_42: what's the issue?
[05:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and it is slower than windows 2000
[05:18] <Will^Draven> I just had to come in here just to profess my love for this distro.
[05:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :c
[05:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> so I am thinking about switching to xubuntu
[05:19] <Lord_Maynoth_42> im a noob so how hard is it to use xubuntu
[05:19] <maxamillion> Will^Draven: why thank you :)
[05:19] <maxamillion> !nvidia | Lord_Maynoth_42
[05:19] <ubotu> Lord_Maynoth_42: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:19] <maxamillion> :)
[05:19] <Will^Draven> I just switched over from gentoo, and miraculously, EVERYTHING just worked. cd burner, wireless network, sound
[05:19] <maxamillion> Will^Draven: well ... we try ;)
[05:19] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I dun wanna install video card drivers
[05:19] <Lord_Maynoth_42> lol
[05:19] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I dont use it for 3d
[05:19] <Lord_Maynoth_42> im just saying its slow as crap
[05:20] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and I am thinking about switching from ubuntu to xubuntu
[05:20] <maxamillion> Lord_Maynoth_42: oh ... ok, yeah
[05:21] <Lord_Maynoth_42> is xubuntu really hard
[05:21] <Lord_Maynoth_42> will automatix still function with it
[05:21] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ?
[05:22] <maxamillion> Lord_Maynoth_42: no it isn't hard, and yes automatix will function with it.... but i don't recommend anyone to ever use automatix
[05:32] <rmd_> ok.. according to update manager, there are no new release updates i can do, but when i open firefox it tells me i'm running 6.06, rather than 6.10
[05:35] <TheSheep> rmd_: this is a know bug -- they forgot to update that page
[05:35] <TheSheep> rmd_: open terminal and type "cat /etc/issue"
[05:35] <maxamillion> rmd_: technically the docs tell you that you are running 6.06 and not 6.10 ... and that's because we didn't have the man power to get the docs updated .... its an issue we no longer have to worry about and will be fixed in 7.04
[05:35] <TheSheep> maxamillion: aloha!
[05:35] <maxamillion> TheSheep: long time no speak ... what's up?
[05:37] <sigg3> Good day
[05:38] <maxamillion> hello
[05:38] <sigg3> I'm having a weird problem with the Xubuntu installation
[05:38] <maxamillion> sigg3: do tell
[05:38] <sigg3> When I try running it, it gives an error saying "Missing command to run"
[05:39] <maxamillion> sigg3: when you try running the installer?
[05:39] <sigg3> *nod maxamillion
[05:39] <sigg3> yes
[05:39] <maxamillion> sigg3: live cd or alternate image?
[05:39] <sigg3> Live CD
[05:40] <sigg3> I've tested it for errors too. Strange thing is, it didn't give this error two weeks ago.
[05:40] <maxamillion> huh .... same cd?
[05:40] <sigg3> yup
[05:40] <TheSheep> sigg3: what do you exactly do?
[05:41] <TheSheep> sigg3: just click on the installer icon?
[05:41] <maxamillion> sigg3: does it have a scratch on it?
[05:41] <grazie> cds can get damaged or a bit dirty
[05:41] <sigg3> I run the installer from the "start menu" (under System)
[05:42] <maxamillion> sigg3: what happens when you double click the desktop icon?
[05:42] <sigg3> Max: Same thing
[05:42] <sigg3> haven't tried that today tho:p
[05:42] <maxamillion> interesting ...
[05:43] <sigg3> could it be related to gksu?
[05:44] <maxamillion> sigg3: its possible, but i don't think that would be the issue since you had it working last week
[05:44] <Taxman> if I shutdown during update manager installing packages, how recoverable is it?
[05:45] <sigg3> I have switched to a new HDD, tested with a HDD utility, though. Could that really be it? It's a bit strange, seeing that the installation hasn't even gotten to the partition part of it.
[05:47] <grazie> Taxman: system should recover ok I think...why would you want to shutdown during an update?
[05:48] <sigg3> I've got an alternate disk too. What's the difference really, and how would I proceed to install?
[05:48] <Taxman> grazie: looks like it's going to take forever, and I may not have the time to wait
[05:49] <sylvaticus> helloall.. I just ended my first xubuntu installation..
[05:50] <maxamillion> i have to run to class ... bbl
[05:50] <Taxman> sylvaticus: congratitations :)
[05:50] <sylvaticus> I have a couple of problems with xorg & switching off
[05:50] <grazie> sigg3: if you've not aleady done so, I'd try just cleaning the cd.
[05:51] <sylvaticus> thanks Taxman.. I have the problem resolution doesn't go more than 800x600
[05:51] <grazie> sigg3: the alternate doesn't use a gui installer and can''t be used as a live cd...that's it
[05:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:52] <kalikiana_> grazie, the text installer is actually more powerful, isn't it?
[05:52] <Keneo> hello, I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate cd on a old pc over here, but I get an error that no ethernet card can be found, and I might need addition modules to find it (there is one in it, and working) What do I do now?
[05:52] <sylvaticus> I already try dpgk-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg like suggested in the form, but nothing... just black borders around the screen
[05:53] <sylvaticus> grazie.. are u the same of yesterday?
[05:53] <grazie> kalikiana_: what power?
[05:53] <Taxman> sylvaticus: beyond me, sorry. Mine just works, and I like 800x600 :)
[05:53] <sylvaticus> (problem solved with anth)
[05:53] <grazie> sylvaticus: I think there's only one of me ?
[05:54] <sylvaticus> 'just learned yesterday about IRC ;-)
[05:54] <grazie> sylvaticus: what machine?
[05:54] <kalikiana_> grazie: you can eg. not overwrite the mbr and it in fact works on systems where the gui installer is broken
[05:55] <leaphisto> hello
[05:55] <leaphisto> what is the media player for xubuntu?
[05:55] <sylvaticus> grazie: a toshiba laptop 64MB, 300Mhz.. I had a mandriva 10.1 and it was working KDE full-screen (but very slowly...)
[05:56] <grazie> kalikiana_: the alternate is designed to work on systems with low ram...don't know of an mbr problem with the desktop cd
[05:57] <grazie> sylvaticus: sounds like an xorg & driver config problem
[05:57] <grazie> sylvaticus: are you booted up?
[05:58] <kalikiana_> grazie, The live installer overwrites the mbr in any case, if that has not changed recently, unlike the text version
[05:58] <sylvaticus> grazie: yes.. I have xubuntu up and running, but with black bords around the LCD screen
[05:58] <Taxman> leaphisto: go to the menu, then multimedia. xfmedia is the default player. I'm on 6.06 though
[05:58] <leaphisto> just wanted to run it commandline
[05:59] <grazie> sylvaticus: hit alt+ctrl+f1
[05:59] <sylvaticus> grazie: it should be 1024x800, instead I can't set the display more than 800x600
[05:59] <sigg3> thanks for the tip
[05:59] <sylvaticus> grazie: yes.. I'm on the console now
[06:00] <sigg3> but I'm 20% into the 6.10 (Edgy Eft) now, so I'll just try that instead.
[06:00] <grazie> sylvaticus: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:01] <Taxman> is the 6.06 to 6.10 upgrade path supported now, or is a reinstall still better?
[06:02] <sylvaticus> grazie: well.. I have an other problem.. I can't login as root (but I can sudo).. maybe some security (/bin/false ?? )
[06:02] <grazie> !upgrade | Taxman
[06:02] <ubotu> Taxman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:02] <TheSheep> sylvaticus: you have to set the password for user root -- it doesn't have any by default
[06:02] <TheSheep> sylvaticus: do "sudo passwd"
[06:03] <Taxman> thanks :)
[06:05] <sylvaticus> grazie: VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyber 9525 (rev 49)
[06:06] <grazie> sylvaticus: you can probably change the driver to vesa to get a working config
[06:07] <sylvaticus> grazie: how? in xorg.conf
[06:07] <grazie> sylvaticus: yes
[06:07] <grazie> sylvaticus: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <sylvaticus> grazie: grazie: in X?
[06:10] <grazie> sylvaticus: sorry 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' in console'
[06:10] <leaphisto> umm... how can i execute the media player in xubuntu through bash?
[06:10] <grazie> leaphisto: which media player?
[06:11] <leaphisto> i don't care
[06:11] <leaphisto> one that can play movies
[06:11] <grazie> leaphisto: enter gxine
[06:11] <leaphisto> i have grannyporn.avi which i wanna watch!!
[06:11] <grazie> Ah yes I remember
[06:11] <Qew> I think he's confused about the X in xubuntu ;)
[06:12] <grazie> leaphisto: you might need some special codecs for that :)
[06:12] <sylvaticus> grazie: all right.. I'm in X.. I am slow as the console installer set me the English keyboard instead of the Italian one.. sorry..
[06:13] <sylvaticus> grazie: I can see driver "trident" in section Device
[06:13] <grazie> sylvaticus: you change the keyboard also while you're editing
[06:13] <grazie> sylvaticus: change to vesa
[06:13] <sylvaticus> grazie: that's a good news ;-)
[06:14] <sylvaticus> done & saved xorg.conf
[06:14] <grazie> sylvaticus: you changed the keyboard too?
[06:16] <sylvaticus> grazie: no, but I think I found where to change... "Section InputDevise"..
[06:16] <grazie> sylvaticus: yeah
[06:16] <sylvaticus> grazie: I have XkbModel pc105 and XkbLayout us
[06:17] <sylvaticus> grazie: the second I presume I have to change in "it", and the former?? do I leave it pc105 ?
[06:17] <grazie> sylvaticus: 'it'...not certain but I think so yes...leave the rest
[06:18] <grazie> sylvaticus: when done.... restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:18] <sylvaticus> ok... should I reboot ?
[06:19] <sylvaticus> ok
[06:19] <grazie> sylvaticus: ^^
[06:21] <sylvaticus> grazie: me again.. now on desktop impostations I have only default and 640x480@61
[06:22] <grazie> sylvaticus: impostations?
[06:23] <sylvaticus> grazie: sorry.. my translation in English.. on the xubuntu tool to select the screen resolution...
[06:23] <grazie> sylvaticus: ok
[06:24] <Keneo> can anybody tell me what kernel the xubuntu 6.06 alternate cd uses?
[06:24] <sylvaticus> keneo: uname -a from a console
[06:24] <grazie> sylvaticus: you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' again and select vesa as the driver...you should be able to get better resolution
[06:25] <sylvaticus> grazie: 'checking...
[06:28] <grazie> sylvaticus: i think the trident driver is problematic and a has a bug raised...for a long time...you'll need to search the forums
[06:28] <sylvaticus> I still had to try that command.. I had to reboot... I'll try it now..
[06:34] <Keneo> the xubuntu alternate installer can't find my ehternet card (3com etherlink 3c503), what to do now?
[06:35] <Keneo> I'm talking xubuntu 6.06 here
[06:35] <grazie> Keneo: do you know the name of the driver for it?
[06:36] <Keneo> no, do you?
[06:36] <grazie> no :<
[06:36] <Keneo> what do you mean by driver name?
[06:36] <grazie> grazie: I'll have look about
[06:38] <grazie> Keneo: your network card needs a kernel driver
[06:38] <Keneo> how do I get that?
[06:42] <grazie> Keneo: I think the kernel should support that card already. what machine is it?
[06:42] <Keneo> an old packard bell
[06:42] <grazie> not a laptop?
[06:42] <Keneo> no
[06:42] <Keneo> desktop
[06:43] <Keneo> don't remember the model number
[06:43] <Keneo> can't seem to find it
[06:43] <grazie> that ok
[06:43] <Keneo> the kernel should support it since 2.4.xx
[06:44] <grazie> Keneo: lemme see if I can find a troubleshooting guide
[06:45] <Keneo> thx :)
[06:45] <davidwinter> is there an alternative web browser that runs well in Xubuntu rather than Firefox?
[06:46] <grazie> Keneo: look at this link >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87644&page=2
[06:47] <grazie> davidwinter: lots
[06:47] <sylvaticus> grazie: hmm... I get rid of it for today.. thanks any-how...
[06:47] <grazie> sylvaticus: np
[06:47] <davidwinter> grazie: is there one you could recommend?
[06:48] <grazie> darren1: I like opera...but had problems with it on x86 linux
[06:49] <grazie> davidwinter: ^^
[06:49] <grazie> darren1: sorry :(
[06:49] <davidwinter> thanks
[06:50] <davidwinter> wasn't there a browser that used to be bundled before Firefox was made default?
[06:50] <grazie> davidwinter: mozilla probably
[06:51] <grazie> davidwinter: actually only had problems with opera on some distros
[06:52] <davidwinter> I think I was looking for Dillo...
[06:52] <davidwinter> just found it
[06:53] <davidwinter> couldn't think of the name
[06:53] <grazie> davidwinter: yeah dillo is nice and kight....I like it too...I think it'll get better
[07:07] <sylvaticus> grazie: thank you !! I managed to solve changing some parameters on dpkg-reconfigure... thanks ;-)
[07:08] <grazie> sylvaticus: great!
[07:09] <sylvaticus> I have few other minour things to set, but I'll try to sort them by myself.. or I will ask again ;-).. cheers..
[07:09] <grazie> sylvaticus: prego
[07:56] <BFTD> hi al
[07:56] <BFTD> all*
[08:02] <maxamillion> BFTD: hello
[08:04] <BFTD> hey
[08:05] <BFTD> Well, I got Xubuntu for my Mac G3, it shows the loading screen part where it loads all the services, but then i get a black screen once its done
[08:06] <BFTD> anyone care to explain?
[08:06] <grazie> BFTD: iMac?
[08:06] <BFTD> grazie no just a G3
[08:06] <BFTD> yes
[08:06] <BFTD> yes its an iMac
[08:06] <grazie> :)
[08:06] <maxamillion> lol
[08:07] <grazie> BFTD: known problem with xorg config
[08:08] <kalikiana> maybe that is why ubuntu ppc support was dropped afterall :P
[08:09] <grazie> BFTD: it's easily fixed...search the forums
[08:09] <grazie> BFTD = CommanderCrow?
[08:10] <maxamillion> grazie: yes
[08:10] <grazie> k
[08:14] <sylvaticus> grazie: hi Grazie.. still there? how does it works the mp3 support in xubuntu?
[08:14] <maxamillion> !mp3 | sylvaticus
[08:14] <ubotu> sylvaticus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <hyper_ch> !restricted | sylvaticus
[08:15] <maxamillion> ahhhh bot attack!!!!
[08:15] <maxamillion> :P
[08:15] <hyper_ch> you were quicker and right :)
[08:15] <hyper_ch> I just noticed ajax is really neat :)
[08:17] <maxamillion> yes it is ... but i'm lazy and it seems complicated
[08:17] <hyper_ch> not really :)
[08:17] <hyper_ch> I had a look today at xajax and it's simple
[08:18] <grazie> hyper_ch: true....I visited a really good ajax driven blogg recently...very good...but lots of latency though
[08:18] <hyper_ch> creating now a small script / program and ajax comes in handy
[08:18] <hyper_ch> why would you want an ajax driven blog?
[08:18] <grazie> wht not?
[08:19] <maxamillion> game, set, match
[08:19] <hyper_ch> well, I don't see what should be driven by ajax there :)
[08:19] <maxamillion> ;)
[08:19] <maxamillion> brb
[08:19] <hyper_ch> I think ajax is great to make "intelligent" forms that won't need to be submitted and reloaded :) that's how I use it :)
[08:20] <sylvaticus> my old laptop in not connected with the net (really, it doesn't even have an eth) so I can't do the usual think of adding a third party reposity and download
[08:20] <BFTD> ok sorry, my internet cut out on me
[08:21] <hyper_ch> sylvaticus: you have two identical installs?
[08:21] <sylvaticus> I'd like to know if there is one .deb I can download and install to the base xubuntu to make gxine working
[08:21] <hyper_ch> it's multiple debs
[08:21] <sylvaticus> hyper_ch: no, I'm on an other Linux box now
[08:21] <grazie> BFTD: iMac is easily fixed...search the forums
[08:22] <hyper_ch> sylvaticus: you'll have dow download all the dependencies then
[08:22] <sylvaticus> hyper_ch: is there a list somewhere I don't have too much to try?
[08:23] <hyper_ch> can't help you with a list
[08:23] <hyper_ch> I can give you a list of the packages of codecs that I installed
[08:23] <hyper_ch> but I don't know what other dependencies they required
[08:26] <sylvaticus> hyper_ch: I think libxine1 doesn't have many dependencies.. I would start with that... where can I thind the mirrors of the "third party" software in ubuntu?
[08:26] <sylvaticus> hyper_ch: (I think they are call "multuiverse" in xubuntu)
[08:27] <grazie> sylvaticus: your servers are listed in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:28] <grazie> sylvaticus: a distro like mint containing all the codecs may be an option too....a bit over the top though
[08:36] <sylvaticus> grazie: yes, I am browsing http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but I can't get where the real packages are..
[08:43] <goldfish> Rippawallet: hello.
[08:43] <Rippawallet> YOU FALLOWED ME
[08:44] <Rippawallet> GTFO MY NTERNETS
[08:44] <goldfish> NO
[08:44] <Rippawallet> ok :(
[08:44] <goldfish> I OWN CYBARWEBZ
[08:44] <Rippawallet> NO
[08:44] <Rippawallet> THE INTARWEBZ IS MYNE
[08:44] <goldfish> want to go cam 2 cam plz?
[08:44] <Rippawallet> sur
[08:44] <goldfish> addy me up plz lol
[08:44] <maxamillion> !caps
[08:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:45] <Rippawallet> SRY UBOTU
[08:45] <goldfish> I WIL POP A CAP IN YOU ASS
[08:45] <Rippawallet> i jst am hurny 4 u bbz
[08:45] <maxamillion> goldfish: you will do what?
[08:45] <Rippawallet> HE WILL POP A CAP IN YO ASS
[08:45] <Rippawallet> NIGGA
[08:45] <goldfish> Heh.
[08:45] <Rippawallet> :] 
[08:45] <Rippawallet> We are win.
[08:45] <goldfish> Kickban me!
[08:46] <Rippawallet> sorry
[08:46] <Rippawallet> my penis exploded
[08:46] <goldfish> Rippawallet: /j #ls-dj
[08:46] <Rippawallet> sorry
[08:46] <Rippawallet> my penis exploded
[08:46] <Rippawallet> mmk
[08:46] <maxamillion> !language
[08:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:46] <Rippawallet> what
[08:46] <Rippawallet> penis is a scientific term
[08:46] <maxamillion> yes, but phrases like "penis exploded" are slang
[08:46] <goldfish> Rippawallet: You are a bad troll.
[08:47] <maxamillion> this channel is for support ... please take offtopic conversation to #xubuntu-offtopic, thank you
[08:47] <Rippawallet> OMGWTFBBQ
[08:47] <Rippawallet> GOLDFISH
[08:47] <Rippawallet> WE MST JOIN
[08:56] <sylvaticus> did anyone know the ftp-server address and directory where to find the binary packages for ubutu that are patent-problematic???
[08:59] <maxamillion> sylvaticus: what?
[09:02] <sylvaticus> maxamillion: I need to manually download packages from the multiverse reposityes, but I can't find them
[09:02] <maxamillion> sylvaticus: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <grazie> maxamillion: of course
[09:05] <Rippawallet> goldfish,
[09:05] <Rippawallet> * *** You are banned from aBlazeNet (Comments or statements not appropriate for Family & Kids are not allowed.)
[09:05] <Rippawallet> * Closing Link: I_want_to_fuck_jesus[82-32-33-117.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk]  (User has been banned from aBlazeNet (Comments or statements not appropriate for Family & Kids are not allowed.))
[09:05] <goldfish> haha
[09:05] <goldfish> bah, stop trolling proper channels!
[09:12] <sylvaticus> maxamillion: thanks, what I was searching ;-)
[09:12] <corvolino> boa tarde
[09:56] <snook353> i'm goin to need to dual boot xp and xubuntu on a 30 gig hd.  should i get a smaller distro?  any tips?
[10:05] <[187ci] marc> Hey
[10:06] <[187ci] marc> anyone here?
[10:06] <snook353> i'm here, but gotta go
[10:06] <snook353> bbl
[10:06] <Koji-Murasame> Here here.
[10:06] <[187ci] marc> ok
[10:07] <[187ci] marc> I have a question
[10:08] <Koji-Murasame> I don't know how much help I'll be, but shoot.
[10:09] <[187ci] marc> ok
[10:09] <[187ci] marc> I have window lag in xbuntu..
[10:10] <[187ci] marc> I tried looking for a setting, but could not find one..
[10:11] <Koji-Murasame> Has this problem just occurred recently?
[10:12] <[187ci] marc> no
[10:12] <[187ci] marc> I installed this on an older computer
[10:13] <[187ci] marc> it had a voodoo graphic card. I changed the xorg.conf, tdfx to vesa..
[10:13] <[187ci] marc> other wise the desktop will not boot
[10:14] <grazie> [187ci] marc: hi...you were online about this yesterday?
[10:15] <[187ci] marc> ya
[10:15] <[187ci] marc> I fixed that probelm
[10:15] <[187ci] marc> it works now
[10:15] <[187ci] marc> but there is window lag..
[10:15] <[187ci] marc> I can't find a setting for it
[10:16] <grazie> [187ci] marc: the vesa driver is slow..but it works...no way to speed it up
[10:17] <[187ci] marc> Thats what I thought
[10:17] <grazie> [187ci] marc: the voodoo driver in ubuntu is broken...but there is a workaround
[10:17] <[187ci] marc> Is it long process
[10:17] <grazie> [187ci] marc: it's descriided in the bug report >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/68291
[10:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68291 in xorg "GDM Restarts after Desktop loads while using tdfx driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[10:21] <[187ci] marc> o
[10:24] <[187ci] marc> So should I try that patch?
[10:24] <tuxcrafter> why does rsync not work on xubuntu images?
[10:24] <tuxcrafter> rsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/feisty-alternate-i386.iso feisty-alternate-i386.iso
[10:27] <[187ci] marc> so
[10:28] <grazie> [187ci] marc: that's you're only option id you want better performance
[10:29] <grazie> tuxcrafter: try rsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily/current/feisty-alternate-i386.iso feisty-alternate-i386.iso
[10:29] <tuxcrafter> yes was debuggin thinks
[10:29] <grazie> tuxcrafter: the guide isn't quite correct
[10:29] <tuxcrafter> not working
[10:30] <grazie> tuxcrafter: is the server up?
[10:30] <tuxcrafter> ?
[10:30] <tuxcrafter> /etc/init.d/rsysc ?
[10:31] <grazie> tuxcrafter: no the server cdimage.ubuntu.com...it is
[10:32] <grazie> tuxcrafter: although the rsync server may be down....unlikey
[10:33] <tuxcrafter> rsync rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-amd64.iso .
[10:33] <tuxcrafter> this one works
[10:34] <grazie> tuxcrafter: that's what I gave you!
[10:35] <tuxcrafter> rsync -Lvv --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily-live/current/feisty-desktop-amd64.iso .
[10:36] <tuxcrafter> rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/daily/current/feisty-alternate-i386.iso feisty-alternate-i386.iso
[10:36] <lesshaste> my system has gone silent... is there a mixer app that I can check to see if the sound is muted for some reason?
[10:36] <neozen> !nmap
[10:36] <tuxcrafter> lesshaste: amixer
[10:36] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[10:36] <lesshaste> tuxcrafter, I ran amixer and it just prints out a page of stats
[10:37] <tuxcrafter> lesshaste: alsamixer :-D
[10:38] <tuxcrafter> btw I think the xfce mixer is to simple and should be expanded
[10:38] <grazie> tuxcrafter: already done in xfce4.4
[10:38] <tuxcrafter> grazie: nice
[10:38] <tuxcrafter> hmm did not see it in feisty
[10:39] <tuxcrafter> i am still testing :-D
[10:39] <lesshaste> hooray!
[10:40] <lesshaste> it was muted for some reason :)
[10:40] <tuxcrafter> lesshate and the volume was not set too zero in the xfce tool!!!???
[10:41] <tuxcrafter> lesshaste: I have tested if this was possible but i could not do it the xfce tool always set he vulume bar to zero if i mute some channel
[10:41] <lesshaste> tuxcrafter, which tool is the xfce tool?
[10:41] <tuxcrafter> lesshaste: xfce4-mixer
[10:42] <lesshaste> I didn't know about that
[10:42] <lesshaste> is that in some menu?
[10:44] <tuxcrafter> lesshaste: no another thing i found buggy :-D What i do is create a new laucher pannel, open the appfinder tool, drag the sound app to the laucher wizzard creater, and change the command to the xfe4-mixer
[10:44] <lesshaste> ok :)
[10:44] <lesshaste> the current bug is that everytime I restart the number of nm-applets that start increases by one
[10:45] <lesshaste> I am up to 7 now!
[10:45] <lesshaste> there must be some config file for this
[10:45] <lesshaste> but I can't find it
[10:45] <tuxcrafter> the app is appfinder->all->sound
[10:46] <tuxcrafter> drag that to the windows that appears when adding a new laucher
[10:46] <tuxcrafter> and change the command
[10:46] <lesshaste> appfinder?
[10:46] <tuxcrafter> i removed the default sound plugin and create the launcher
[10:46] <tuxcrafter> menu->accessories->appfinder
[10:48] <lesshaste> ok thanks
[10:48] <tuxcrafter> try it please
[10:48] <lesshaste> any idea how to tame the number of nm-applets that start up?
[10:48] <tuxcrafter> see if you now what i mean
[10:48] <tuxcrafter> know
[10:48] <tuxcrafter> try the dragging
[10:48] <tuxcrafter> form the appfinder app to the new laucher window
[10:50] <neozen> less: delete all the created sessions
[10:51] <lesshaste> neozen, can you explain more?
[10:54] <lesshaste> what do you mean by created sessions?
[11:02] <neozen> ....ok
[11:02] <neozen> you have save session enabled on logout right?
[11:03] <lesshaste> neozen, hmm... I am new to ubuntu.. let me try to check
[11:03] <neozen> ...when you logout... there's a little checkbox
[11:03] <neozen> ...its probably checked
[11:03] <neozen> ...uncheck it
[11:03] <lesshaste> right.. I see it
[11:04] <lesshaste> is it as simple as that?
[11:04] <neozen> ....well.... no
[11:04] <neozen> lol
[11:04] <lesshaste> ok
[11:04] <neozen> you've probably restarted a ton
[11:04] <lesshaste> yes
[11:05] <neozen> (haven't done this in awhile
[11:05] <neozen> ...so bear with me
[11:06] <lesshaste> k
[11:08] <neozen> I'm still looking mon
[11:08] <neozen> in the interm
[11:08] <neozen> ...go to settings in the application menu
[11:08] <lesshaste> k
[11:09] <neozen> select Sessions and Startup
[11:09] <lesshaste> k
[11:09] <neozen> uncheck the automatically save session on logout
[11:09] <neozen> box
[11:09] <lesshaste> k
[11:10] <lesshaste> going to try logging out and back in now
[11:12] <neozen> hey guys
[11:12] <neozen> ...where does xubuntu save sessions?
[11:13] <rmd_> huh?
[11:15] <neozen> nm
[11:15] <neozen> I got it
[11:15] <rmd_> oh.  good then.
[11:18] <tuxcrafter> neozen: can you share the locoation
[11:18] <neozen> sure
[11:18] <neozen> looks to be saved in ~/.cache
[11:18] <tuxcrafter> the config file i mean
[11:18] <tuxcrafter> ow ioke
[11:18] <neozen> config file for....?
[11:19] <neozen> tux: what are you talking about?
[11:19] <tuxcrafter>   [GEOMETRY]  (478,303,484,316)
[11:19] <tuxcrafter>   [GEOMETRY-MAXIMIZED]  (478,303,484,316)
[11:19] <tuxcrafter> nice to know this
[11:19] <neozen> ...................................................
[11:20] <neozen> ::blinks::
[11:20] <tuxcrafter> neozen: You gave me the correct infor :-D
[11:20] <neozen> I have no idea what you're talking about
[11:20] <neozen> ...um... ok
[11:21] <tuxcrafter> ./cache :-D
[11:21] <neozen> yeah
[11:21] <neozen> in the session directory in that folder
[11:22] <neozen> .....if you whack those out
[11:22] <neozen> and you don't save sessions...
[11:22] <neozen> xfce acts sane
[11:22] <neozen> ::grins::
[11:26] <neozen> gah
[11:27] <neozen> well when less gets back
[11:27] <neozen> make sure to tell him to whack out all the nm-applet stuff in ~/.cache/session
[11:27] <neozen> k tux?
[11:27] <neozen> its time for me to go
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can leave him a memo with memoserv - it's more reliable.
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Next time he joins, he'll get the message, whether it's while we're here or not.
[11:31] <posingaspopular> PuMpErNiCkLe: how does memoserv work
[11:31] <posingaspopular> ive never heard of it/me is interguied
[11:31] <j1mc> PuMpErNiCkLe: same question here . . .   the person doesn't even have to be in the room?
[11:31] <j1mc> posingaspopular: hey.  what's up
[11:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> j1mc: Exactly.
[11:32] <posingaspopular> hey j1mc, you're home early. im doing ubuntu dev. work and biology hw. calculus in a few hours. thats all. whats up with you
[11:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> posingaspopular: It's a freenode service, like Nickserv, but it stores memos for people.
[11:33] <tuxcrafter> neozen: bye and btw try using tab completion with the irc names :-D
[11:35] <Jester45> is there a list of hardware compatiblity? im going to build my own cmoputer in the next few weeks and was hoping to get a fully supported box
[11:35] <posingaspopular> Jester45: yes
[11:35] <posingaspopular> i think its linuxcompatablity.org
[11:36] <posingaspopular> but not sure
[11:36] <posingaspopular> google
[11:37] <Jester45> would compatibility be a kernel thing or distro?
[11:37] <posingaspopular> kernel
[11:37] <Jester45> k
[11:37] <posingaspopular> yea
[11:38] <posingaspopular> my calc teacher has a problem because he's on the fermilab distro of redhat
[11:38] <posingaspopular> and they have an older kernel
[11:38] <posingaspopular> and he needs the newer kernel for his wireless card
[11:38] <posingaspopular> so he's stuck w/o the wireless card
[11:38] <Jester45> well im going ot use ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:38] <Jester45> why not just add a new one?
[11:39] <posingaspopular> Jester45:  fermilab takes forever to update their kernel because it ABSOLUTLY has to work and be stable.
[11:39] <posingaspopular> and as long as you avoid stuff like ATI, you should be okay
[11:39] <Jester45> o
[11:41] <Jester45> ok looking at wikipedia for processors
[11:41] <Jester45> and the intel 4004 looks nice
[11:41] <Jester45> 740khz :)
[11:41] <Jester45> 640 b memory
[11:42] <tuxcrafter> j1mc: he its me :-D
[11:43] <tuxcrafter> j1mc: that rsyc is very buggy
[11:47] <Dylan_> Can someone help me with the install?
[11:47] <tuxcrafter> j1mc: I take that back but there is something not alright with the xubuntu images and rsync
[11:48] <posingaspopular> Dylan_: whats the prob...
[11:48] <tuxcrafter> Dylan_: sorry dont have time know maybe later
[11:50] <Jester45> im looking at Intel Pentium 4 or D, a 700 watt power suppy with 160 mm fan, ninja cpu cooler, geforce 7900 gtx, 4gb ram
[11:51] <Jester45> 2 250 gb drives or 500 if i have the money
[11:51] <Jester45> that the most things im going to have to buy
[11:52] <posingaspopular> j1mc: when are you leaving to... NC? was it?
[11:52] <Jester45> i got a few fans
[11:52] <tuxcrafter> I am looking for a silent mini-itx system that works fully under linux have already bougth 3 of them but non of theme works
[11:52] <tuxcrafter> the fourt one is in ordering
[11:52] <Dylan_> After fiddling with the boot partition(and got it right) installed the base system. Then the next step asked for internet information (im not using internet to install) and then a loading bar appears and stays at 1% for about 20 minutes, and i just shut it down
[11:52] <Jester45> tuxcrafter: i was looking at one of those to run a server on but... i new more games
[11:52] <maxamillion> tuxcrafter: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/
[11:52] <j1mc> tuxcrafter: hi!
[11:53] <BFTD> dang i keep getting a 404 on the xubuntu download mirror for the USA
[11:53] <maxamillion> BFTD: i didn't know we had a xubuntu usa mirror
[11:53] <BrendanM> fermilab makes their own Linux distro? That's pretty cool
[11:53] <BFTD> maxamillion we do
[11:54] <posingaspopular> BrendanM: yea i know. im trying to get a fulltime job there this summer
[11:54] <Jester45> maxamillion: the problem with that is that i would like to have *buntu and the speed of drives not usb
[11:54] <tuxcrafter> j1mc: now you remember the tuxcrafter :-P
[11:54] <j1mc> hehehe . . .
[11:55] <maxamillion> Jester45: then buy one of them that has the space for a laptop hdd, buy one and put it in ... they boot from usb, you can just install that way
[11:55] <j1mc> i got your note.  that's far out.  the info you've provided is very helpful.
[11:55] <Jester45> maxamillion: still doesnt get me my games
[11:55] <maxamillion> Jester45: :(
[11:55] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards none of those boards are fully linux supported thinks like dolby do not work and other small thinks bad drivers
[11:56] <maxamillion> tuxcrafter: interesting ....
[11:56] <BrendanM> I live near fermilab, I did a summer program there in HS
[11:56] <maxamillion> tuxcrafter: http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcr/index.html
[11:56] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: I have bought to of them the EN12000E and the M6000
[11:56] <Jester45> ATTENTION!! FireFox has an update
[11:56] <BrendanM> OMG!!!!!
[11:57] <posingaspopular> BrendanM: right near... what's that suburb? my brother worked out there this summer at a place called acceleration
[11:57] <burner> lol
[11:57] <grazie> Dylan_: what's your machine?
[11:57] <Jester45> I KNOW!! amazing
[11:57] <Jester45> i look to be kinda big
[11:57] <Dylan_> ibook G3 blueberry
[11:57] <BrendanM> Fermilab's in Batavia
[11:57] <Jester45> i got 3 updates with a total of 10mb
[11:57] <BrendanM> What's the FF update do?
[11:57] <posingaspopular> oh right, thats the place
[11:58] <BrendanM> It's a nice enough area, and Chicago's right there
[11:58] <Jester45> yep the ff update is 9.2mb
[11:58] <posingaspopular> BrendanM: i live in chicago. midway airport area
[11:58] <BrendanM> heh, noisy?
[11:58] <Jester45> fix security on it... i jsut like updates !!WOOOOYAAA!!
[11:58] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: via chips dont work piriot i have tested them 3 years i eaven developt patches and mods to trying to get them working fully
[11:58] <BrendanM> I'm from the Chicago suburbs, but I'm in England on study abroad right now
[11:59] <grazie> Dylan_: not heard of a machine getting stuck at 1% before?
[11:59] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: I have several treats running on ubuntu and viaarena forums
[11:59] <BrendanM> Speaking of updates, I never got the most recent kernel updates because I heard they broke everything
[11:59] <posingaspopular> nah its not tooo loud, but its cool even if it was. where are you studying
[11:59] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: i am now going to try this one: http://www.mini-tft.de/xtc-neu/product_info.php?products_id=18958&cPath=
[11:59] <BrendanM> Is there a way to mark non-kernel updates in synaptic?
[11:59] <BrendanM> University College London
[11:59] <Jester45> BrendanM: they didnt break me
[12:00] <tuxcrafter> but i am affread that everyting will work onder linux exempt the SIS video driver but it is a new chip so maybe I can only find info about old ones
[12:00] <Jester45> BrendanM: yes i think you do sudo apt-get -h packages
[12:00] <maxamillion> tuxcrafter: i would be interested to see if everything works
[12:00] <BrendanM> if you read the Ubuntu forums, there's tons of people talking about how it broke their video and sound and stuff
[12:00] <Jester45> BrendanM: or somthing like that the -h mean hold look in in the man page
[12:00] <BrendanM> It might be fine, but this laptop is my primary (and only) machine here, so I can't risk having it messed up.
[12:00] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: if that now work i will buy this one http://de.kontron.com/index.php?id=226&cat=61&productid=1759
[12:01] <BrendanM> I need it to do work and download American TV
[12:01] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: but that will cost me 200 euro more only for linux support
[12:01] <Dylan_> i realld don't know, it was the installing part after the base installation
[12:01] <Dylan_> do i need to be hooked up to the internet to do that?
[12:01] <maxamillion> tuxcrafter: why do you need a mini-itx?
[12:01] <grazie> Dylan_: no
[12:01] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: the size and the low power and the low noice
[12:02] <Dylan_> ah.... how long should it take, then?
[12:02] <grazie> Dylan_: can you hook it up to the internet though?
[12:02] <Dylan_> i might, but that would involve me unhooking this computer
[12:02] <Jester45> looks good to me tuxcrafter
[12:02] <maxamillion> tuxcrafter: fair enough
[12:03] <t0taln00b> hey :)
[12:03] <grazie> Dylan_: on that machine probably about an 45+ minutes
[12:03] <Dylan_> grazie: is that the base install, the second or both together
[12:03] <tuxcrafter> btw alll the info of this site wrong!!  http://www.mini-tft.de/xtc-neu/product_info.php?products_id=18958&cPath=
[12:03] <grazie> Dylan_: whole thing
[12:04] <t0taln00b> did any1 try installing feisty?
[12:04] <BrendanM> When does Feisty launch officially? April?
[12:04] <Dylan_> grazie: then it just got stuck?
[12:04] <bur[n] er1> si
[12:04] <tuxcrafter> Maximilian1st:  this ist he correct info in the datasheet located there http://www.jetway.com.tw/jetway/system/productshow2.asp?id=258&proname=J7F3
[12:04] <Maximilian1st> maxamillion, This was for you
[12:04] <posingaspopular> BrendanM: april
[12:04] <tuxcrafter> maxamillion: I mean them that is a irritation close name
[12:05] <Maximilian1st> Thank you tuxcrafter
[12:05] <tuxcrafter> no problem :-D please change your nickname :-P
[12:05] <grazie> Dylan_: you could try the install again and to find out what the problem is
[12:05] <Dylan_> grazie: thats what i am trying right now...
[12:06] <Maximilian1st> Yeah, get a life, my name is my name, can't change it, you choose your friends in life not your family..
[12:06] <Jester45> ummm... they have pci based cpus.... im gonna try like 8 of them
[12:06] <Maximilian1st> ;-p just joking.
[12:07] <maxamillion> please play nice
[12:07] <tuxcrafter> i must go now it is midnight here 00:00
[12:08] <daemon-works> hello everybody
[12:08] <tuxcrafter> see you later does that message reminder thing work if you are offline? (pc down)
[12:08] <Maximilian1st> maxamillion, I was joking as I wrote, no offense meant.
[12:09] <Jester45> http://de.kontron.com/index.php?id=226&cat=48&productid=207
[12:09] <Jester45> tuxcrafter: look at that
[12:09] <tuxcrafter> oke
[12:10] <maxamillion> i know i know
[12:10] <Jester45> that owns
[12:10] <tuxcrafter> Jester45: that is not mini-itx 17x17 :-P
[12:10] <Jester45> lol
[12:11] <Jester45> still its the best thing ever
[12:11] <maxamillion> well ... i need to run ... bbl
[12:12] <tuxcrafter> Jester45: I want to be ablle to do 3D texture rendering on a mini-itx default low power onboard chip
[12:13] <tuxcrafter> in theory the CN700 and CN400 from VIA can do this but the openchrome driver can not do this
[12:13] <Jester45> humm
[12:13] <tuxcrafter> now i am going to try the SiS 741CX
[12:14] <tuxcrafter> if that not work i have to move to very expensive intel systems :-(
[12:18] <tuxcrafter> i have to go now
[12:18] <tuxcrafter> bye
[12:19] <grazie> what's all this firefox... bon echo.... stuff then?
[12:19] <Jester45> ??
[12:20] <grazie> exactly
[12:20] <Jester45> lol