=== stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:02] anyone around? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:00] ping OGRA === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === ctkroeker [n=kroekerh@190.128.158.178] has joined #edubuntu [02:35] anyone have any luck with the "sound blaster live 24-bit" or "Crystal" or VIA HD-Audio VT82***? [02:35] Well my sound output works great, just not input, line in and mic [02:35] just gives a flaky crackle at best === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === petre [n=petre@scheie.homedns.org] has joined #edubuntu [03:27] If I want something to automatically launch after login, what file do I put that in? [03:27] IOW, if I want firefox to load when I login, how do I trigger that? [03:28] put it in sessions [03:28] system>prefs>sessions === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [03:28] /etc/X11/Xsessions? [03:28] startup programs [03:28] petre: (assuming GNOME) System -> Preferences -> Session, Startup Programs [03:28] bimberi: Thats what I said :-) [03:29] Anyone know of a good way to test LDM remotely? [03:29] Like would "ssh -X" work? [03:29] a5benwillis: :) [03:30] a5benwillis: i suspect not, but don't really know [03:30] ping LaserJock [03:30] hence fun to try! [03:30] hi a5benwillis [03:30] Hi [03:30] okay, I see Startup Programs tab; any idea what file that modifies? [03:30] you do edubuntu packages right? [03:30] well, kinda [03:30] he wrote the book ;) [03:31] what? [03:31] I was able to apply a patch to OpenSSH-Server today to allow it to work with Novell authentication. I have the apt-get source and wondered if it would be good to make it availible? [03:31] I just hang out here ;-) [03:31] LaserJock: well, the packaging guide [03:31] oh yeah [03:32] a5benwillis: how big is the patch? [03:32] I dount that the ssh guys are going to incorperate it into any release, though I have asked [03:32] LaserJock: 6.3k [03:32] the patch file is 6.3k [03:33] but I have the source already compiled with it included. [03:33] and it works? [03:34] yes. I've spent weeks on it. Ogra knows all about it :-) [03:34] cool [03:34] have you filed a bug about it? [03:34] Cliebow helped me some as well [03:34] heh..beating a dead horse.. [03:34] there was already one [03:35] http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215 [03:35] cliebow: I was asking LaserJock about maybe making the package availible in edubuntu [03:35] i see [03:35] the patched source that it [03:35] is [03:35] it prob has to come from upstream... [03:36] yeah. Gotta start somewhere lol [03:36] or is that downstream.. [03:36] up [03:36] Im about as downstream as it gets. lol [03:36] me too [03:36] so I image it needs to go upstream for approval [03:36] lol [03:36] estuary? :) [03:36] ha!! [03:38] to think I had planned to play poker tonight. Instead I worked on SSH, again! [03:38] im packing it in..i feel like Icarus beating my head again Sun all daua\y [03:38] ave a good one cliebow [03:38] see ya tomorrow.. [03:38] yep === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@153-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [06:55] hi highvoltage [06:56] hi LaserJock! === ZhongHan [n=chatzill@bb121-6-206-96.singnet.com.sg] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [07:44] highvoltage: how's your day going? [07:44] highvoltage: how's work? or whatever you're doing === Radica1Faith [n=matt@74-128-108-231.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:50] hello? [07:50] anyone in here? [07:51] sure [07:51] hello [07:52] I was wondering if i could get a few tips? [07:52] perhaps, not a ton of people here yet === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:54] Pete! [07:54] hey dude [07:55] when i restart my computer i my wireless is unable to connect to anything for a long while, but after 10 to 15 minutes or so, all of a sudden i can connect [07:55] normal? [07:57] hmm, mine reconnects pretty fast === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [07:58] are you running 6.10? [07:58] yes [07:58] hey bud [07:59] Radica1Faith: I haven't encountered that before, my wireless always connects right up if it connects [07:59] what's the prob| [07:59] ? [07:59] its only when i restart [08:00] are you using ndiswrapper? [08:00] yes [08:00] is it being loaded automatically to the kernel? [08:00] i think so [08:00] well what I suggest [08:00] is to restart the machine [08:00] then goto a terminal window and type [08:01] but then again, i do type in modprobe ndiswrapper when i get frustrated that nothing was happening [08:01] lsmod | grep ndis [08:01] see if it comes up after a reboot [08:01] if it doesn't then there's your problem === cbx33 doesn't keep his automatically loaded anyway [08:01] the problem is, i see the sids [08:01] it interferes with my hibernation [08:01] its just not able to connect [08:02] hmmm [08:02] for a while [08:02] odd [08:02] i thought so too [08:02] maybe it caches the sids [08:02] so you are not really scanning them [08:02] just seeing them from last time [08:02] hmm [08:02] maybe [08:02] that makes sense [08:03] alright well, i'll try restarting and typing that in [08:03] cool [08:03] hang on [08:03] but even if it was that, why would it just randomly start working after a long while? [08:03] maybe something modprobes it later on? [08:03] no idea [08:03] give it a whirl :p [08:03] alright [08:03] thankyou very much [08:04] np [08:04] wait, why can't i type it in right now and then restart? [08:04] well type it in now [08:04] you should get this [08:04] pete@misato:~$ lsmod | grep ndis [08:04] ndiswrapper 208656 0 [08:04] usbcore 134912 4 ndiswrapper,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd [08:05] but on reboot if you don't get those lines, then ndiswrapper is not being loaded [08:05] ahh i see [08:05] okay thankyou very much [08:05] if it isn't loaded [08:05] how do i start it? [08:05] modprobe ndiswrapper? [08:05] yup [08:06] sudo modprobe ndiswrapper of course [08:06] okay i remember doing that before and that still didn't help [08:06] it still took some time [08:06] hmm [08:06] define sometime [08:06] are you using network manager? [08:06] 5 minutes [08:06] yes [08:06] that is a little slow [08:07] it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me [08:07] but then again i'm new to this whole linux thing [08:07] what you can do is try restarting dbus - but I don;t know if that's recommended [08:07] sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart [08:07] that restarts the network manager applet [08:07] okay [08:08] alright i feel really dumb, but how do you copy text from chat? [08:08] highlight it and press ctrl+c [08:09] if you want to paste in to a terminal window [08:09] you then need to use [08:09] ctl+shift+v [08:09] not just ctrl+v [08:09] ahh, yeah i was wondering why it didn't work in a terminal [08:09] thankyou [08:09] np === LaserJock is still crunching numbers [08:10] alright i'll be back hopefully before 20 minutes from now [08:10] cool [08:11] I'm so close to uploading an edubuntu-docs package too [08:11] LaserJock, do you know where the network places settings are stored? [08:11] the ssids? [08:12] no [08:12] network places [08:12] oh [08:12] like an smb drive [08:12] or ftp etc [08:12] not really [08:12] ok [08:12] bbiab === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-211-116.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu [08:13] I had an older version of ubuntu that had more screensavers like fireworks etc. Now with 6.10 I only have space scenes and gnome footprints. What package do I need to install the other screensavers? Is there a reason they were taken out of 6.10? [08:13] hmm, I don't think they were taken out [08:14] LaserJock: it's great, it's my first day at my new(ish) job [08:14] LaserJock: the (ish) part is there since it contains a large part of my old job :) [08:14] LaserJock: and you? [08:14] highvoltage: workin' away [08:14] Laserjock, all I have is "cosmos" and "floating feet". This is from a fresh install of 6.10. [08:14] really? [08:15] that's odd [08:15] highvoltage: now what is your position? [08:15] and what kind of company [08:16] Meshezabeel: I'd look in synaptic for xscreensaver [08:17] Laserjock, ok thanks, looking in synaptic for screensaver, all I get is gnome-screensaver as being installed, there are others not installed including xscreensaver and xscreensaver-gl === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [08:19] LaserJock: it's at Impi Linux, our government is converting to open source jsut about everywhere, and we're going to do a lot of the implementation [08:20] LaserJock: what's cool is, we'll still be doing the distro part of tuxlabs for inkululeko, so I didn't have to abandon anything leaving my old daytime job [08:20] Meshezabeel: try installing them === TeePOG [n=Morat@137.158.63.49] has joined #edubuntu [08:26] morning [08:41] Laserjock, thanks got them in xscreensaver-data-extra === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.5.78] has joined #edubuntu === LP747 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-62afe17b5f90926f] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-211-116.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [10:05] LaserJock: Go to bed! === LP747 is now known as cbx33 [10:05] me? [10:06] yes you [10:06] yes you === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [10:06] hehe [10:06] I need to disable frequency scaling on a machine [10:06] anyone know how? === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:15] hey juliux [10:15] hi cbx33 [10:15] cbx33, how are you? [10:17] yeh I'm good [10:17] you don;t know how to disable frequency scaling do you? [10:17] from the cpu? [10:18] yes [10:18] there are two ways [10:18] ell from wihin linux [10:18] basically this is the problem [10:18] the vmware machines clock is getting skewed [10:18] wihin? [10:18] it's because the processor is changing speed [10:18] I want to stop it doing it === RichEd [n=richard@217.205.109.249] has joined #edubuntu [10:18] oh yeah, I read something about that once [10:19] have you checked the forums? [10:19] yeh [10:19] found nothing [10:19] cbx33, the easy way is to do it with the gnome applet [10:19] ah ok [10:19] hi RichEd [10:19] hey RichEd [10:19] LaserJock, cbx33 : greetz [10:19] and juliux [10:19] cbx33, you only have to do this: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector [10:20] cbx33, then you can change the frequency from the panel === LaserJock wants to go to bed [10:20] will that hold across reboots? [10:20] LaserJock: GO TO BED [10:20] cbx33, yes [10:20] cool [10:20] thanks juliux [10:20] cbx33, /apps/gnome-power-manager/cpufreq_ac_policy is the gconf-key you want to set [10:20] cbx33: I *have* to upload edubuntu-docs [10:20] set it to performance [10:21] ogra, but that is not working if you don't change the permissons of cpufreq-selector [10:21] ogra: thanks dude [10:21] ogra will never let me touch an edubuntu app again if I don't ;-) [10:21] heheh [10:21] juliux, ? [10:21] whats cpufreq-selector ? [10:21] a tool;) [10:21] i tried to change it in gconf but it was not working [10:21] i'm talking about gnome-powermanager [10:21] it5 should directly talk to hal [10:22] which it does for me ... [10:22] hmm [10:22] ok [10:22] I'll try it [10:22] but i dont use tools like cpufreq-selector [10:23] ogra: would I just do gconf-editor [10:23] or would it be sudo gconf-editor [10:23] yes [10:23] no [10:23] what if I'm not logged in though [10:24] i may not be logged into this machine all the time [10:24] it's a server after all [10:24] RichEd, i set up the server for rockprincess in vienna on monday, so she has no a working edubuntu server in her school [10:25] no=not ? [10:25] we have been seeing her conversations here in the channel [10:25] no = now [10:25] juliux: cool [10:25] no==now ;) [10:25] she couldnt boot the next morning [10:25] omg [10:25] she said that you impressed the people with your skills and you made edubuntu look real easy to set up [10:25] ogra: so, will that still work even if I'm not logged in? [10:25] RichEd: but it is really easy to set up :p [10:25] why she didn't write me an e-mail? [10:25] cbx33, you have to set it once ... i.e. log in once [10:26] ahh ok [10:26] thanks [10:26] but she said that you typed so fast she could not read what you were doing :) [10:26] hey ogra [10:26] RichEd, that was not fast, it was a craped dell keyboard;) [10:26] RichEd, yo ... [10:26] juliux: now you are just bragging ;) [10:27] do i create it? [10:27] ogra and sbalneav helped her out ... she's now working okay ogra ? [10:27] ogra, is here server no working? [10:27] /apps/gnome-power-manager/cpufreq_ac_policy doesn't exist [10:27] do i create it? [10:28] RichEd, yes, i think so [10:28] ok created it as string and set to performance [10:28] I'll log out and in again [10:28] cbx33, no [10:28] oh [10:28] ogra, what was the error? [10:29] cbx33, ah, wait, indeed you are in the user settings ... you need to create it [10:29] will this then still hold if I don't log in [10:29] and reboot the machine [10:29] i need it to always be set to performance [10:29] juliux, no idea, she wasnt there when she asked about it, i only made the first part of the support, sbalneav did the rest later [10:30] ogra, i will asked here via jabber;) === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.5.78] has joined #edubuntu [10:33] ogra, now i know the error;) she used the wrong networkcable [10:33] heh [10:33] ok [10:34] she has two networks in the classroom one for windows, one for edubuntu [10:34] i just know the client couldnt find the dhcp server ... but she couldnt get the logs and configs when she reported it [10:35] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070301/ <--- for testing === juliux will start jigdo;) [10:35] and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily-live/20070301/ === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:38] brackfast;9 [10:38] seems to have worked ogra === cbx33 now runs a 2000 second test for clock skewage [10:41] damn kerberos authntication :p [10:47] RichEd, wrt your mail: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070301/feisty-serveraddon-i386.iso wait until we have some test results [10:47] its only 200 MB yet [10:49] thanks :) [10:50] muuuuuuch better [10:50] thanks ogra [10:50] :) [10:50] will i have to login once after the machine is booted each time? [10:51] sadly ... [10:51] gnome-power-manager cant run as system service [10:51] you could probably write a python script that talks to hal via dbus to force the value [10:52] that's fine [10:52] thank you so much [10:52] dude you seriously rock [10:59] re [11:01] RichEd, btw, since you werent in the meeting: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/edubuntu-winfoss-wip.png thats how the add-on CD will look like under windows ;) [11:03] \o/ [11:03] LaserJock, youre still awake ? [11:03] yeah, gotta get edubuntu-docs finished [11:04] phew [11:04] hi ogra [11:04] hey ajmitch [11:06] ogra: looks good ... very nice [11:06] yep [11:07] the add-on CD will be a real added value in the end ... [11:07] "improve both worlds with the edubuntu add-on CD" === RichEd-1 [n=richard@217.205.109.249] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [11:11] heh fun, just talking to flatmate about ldap & kerberos stuff === daviey [n=dave1111@148.197.64.79] has joined #edubuntu === daviey [n=dave1111@148.197.64.79] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:15] ogra: edubuntu-docs uploaded [11:16] YAY !! [11:17] good [11:17] LaserJock: crimsun & I agreed that there should be no UVF exception needed for such things [11:17] it's just extra work for everyone === ogra is totally impressed by our add-on CD ... [11:18] RichEd, its good to download, just tested it ... [11:19] thanks ... will give it a week or two, and dlwonad and burn when I am back at home [11:19] *download [11:20] he wont get the sexy gnome-app-install integration though ... [11:20] he'll need to use synaptic [11:22] that's fine ... they have a shocking telephone network in Zimbabwe, even voice and fax calls get dropped, so anything on a CD will be a life saver for him. [11:23] sounds interesting... do you have a link about the add-on CD? [11:23] ogra: ok, what were those pam problems you had & why does the current /etc/pam.d situation suck? [11:23] ajmitch, you have to sed through textfiles ... thats not what i understand as "pluggable" [11:23] ogra: my night's work is done [11:23] almost 2:30am [11:23] to add in new pam modules? [11:24] to change configs [11:24] one of the main issues I find is that ordering is so critical & easy to mess up [11:24] if you want to change the ssh or gdm scheme, you have to ediut the ssh or gdm textfiles === ajmitch spent a bit of time trying to get pam stuff semi-working with authtool [11:25] a directory with sequenced links like init would be much cleaner for example [11:25] except that it uses the common files instead [11:25] so you'd want @include common/* ? [11:25] or something like that? [11:26] it'll be an uphill battle for you to change things [11:26] similat to the include rules, but in a structure you can just link or delete stuff [11:26] right [11:27] you can argue about it at UDS :) [11:27] i dont expect it to be easy, but the current situation sucks, so it needs to be improved [11:28] erm, anyone? what is the add-on CD about? [11:28] yes it does suck, but it's used in a lot of places [11:28] most people can get by with common-* [11:29] TeePOG, gaining us space oin the server CD [11:29] interesting [11:30] is it stable yet? [11:30] i suppose not huh? [11:30] still, interesting [11:30] TeePOG: some applications move off CD1 onto CD2 and a whole bunch of new applications are added to CD2, including all language packs. [11:30] ah ok ... but doesn't that imply that the installer and initial desktop will only be available in English? [11:31] ie. making it difficult for non-English speakers? === ajmitch wonders if his authtool code will be at all useful in the future [11:32] [11:32] anyway, back to work [11:32] later [11:32] RichEd, the langpacks are not on it yet, they will be for beta [11:32] they are the last thing i'll add, if the rest doesnt move anymore [11:33] ogra: I'm speaking in terms of what we will release to the outside world, not the early mid dev versions that the eager beavers in this channel download :) but thanks for clarifying [11:34] right :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [12:20] RichEd: sorry to bother you [12:20] pm? [12:20] cbx33: will check now'ish ... multi-threading at the moment [12:20] ok np [12:21] that's why i didn't bother you [12:22] hello === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra_ === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [01:41] w00t dual head [01:43] congratulations [01:43] heh === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d429a2.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@195-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.5.78] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === shesse [n=shesse@c148039.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === tosky [n=tosky@ncc1701d.dmi.unict.it] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] ping RichEd [03:01] hi cbx33 messaging you now [03:01] ok [03:01] got confused [03:01] hehe [03:04] morning guys === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === intengu [n=intengu@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:38] using intergrated ltsp on xubuntu - how do you config ltsp-build-client to use cdrom then fetch missing packages from the internet [03:38] ogra_: pingity pong -> can i set the default resolution for edubuntu machines on LTSP? [03:40] any ideas ladies & gentlemen [03:40] unknown from me here === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu [03:47] intngu: that is an apt function.right? wouldnt an uncomment in sources.list poit to cdrom [03:47] ignore that:got Gadi on the case === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [03:54] brb [03:55] cliebow: Good morning! [03:55] cliebow: Well, not so good morningactually === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:57] Heya [04:10] intengu, you need to do it in two steps [04:10] mount cdrom, sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom [04:11] then copy the sources.list from the server into the chroot, chroot into it and update it from the net with apt ... [04:12] whats missing ? [04:12] in edubuntu it works fine ... === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-43ed320bb6af22bf] has joined #edubuntu === johansalim [n=johansal@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@caffeine.mel.cc.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:52] if X:1 -scanpci gives 128:1:0 for a video card shouldnt that be usable as a BusID in xorg.conf === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [05:06]