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MattjcI am running asterisk on a ubuntu and would like to know the best way to get ubuntu to start automatically not get stuck on login12:14
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argonelI-kido: x started, but its in 8-bit colour again12:14
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I-kidoargonel, and when u set default depth to 24 in xorg.conf12:15
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argonelI-kido: i'll check the conf, i did choose 24 as the default depth via dpkg-reconfigure12:15
Mattjcno love from anyone12:15
I-kidoaha12:15
argoneli wish kubuntu had kinfocenter12:16
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I-kidoargonel it has12:16
I-kido:012:17
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argonel|kubtired of walking from room to room :)12:17
I-kidolol12:18
I-kidoargonel: Meny>System12:18
argonel|kubso i found kinfocenter12:18
I-kidoMenu*12:18
argonel|kubit says 89x87 dpi 24 planes12:18
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argonel|kubdoes not explain why the desktop picture looks like its in 256 colour mode12:19
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I-kidoargonel pastebin ur xorg.conf please12:20
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argonel|kubI-kido: http://phpfi.com/20994712:22
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I-kidotnx argonel12:22
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crackheadquestion: how do i install/use firefox, when adept says it's already "installed", but it shows up as greyed out in the "add/remove programs" of the k-menu?12:23
skywalker_omg12:23
I-kidoargonel try 1280x1024 instead of "1440x900"12:23
argonel|kubI-kido: to what end?12:24
I-kidolook in your xorg.conf :)12:24
crystufer2000Hey, is there a program I can run to autoconfigure my menu for fluxbox?12:24
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skywalker_how do I completely remove wine12:24
argonel|kubfirstly, i don't have 1280x1024 in there at all, so i'd have to add it12:24
SlackRatuse synaptic, option completely remove12:25
Jucatocrackhead: if Firefox is installed, it should be in K Menu -> Internet12:25
daft_anyone know what the message "compiz: GLX_SGIX_fbconfig is missing" means?12:25
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argonel|kubsecondly, the aspect ratio is incorrect for this monitor12:25
posingaspopularargonel|kub: its not x12:25
Jucatoskywalker_: if you uninstall wine, the ~/.wine directory still hangs around. you probably want to delete that if you're absolutely sure12:25
posingaspopularX ?12:25
I-kidoargonel replace  "1440x900" by 1280x102412:26
argonel|kubposingaspopular: i'm sorry, what?12:26
argonel|kubI-kido: for what purpose?12:26
skywalker_ok so it is uninstalled12:26
I-kidomaybe ur monitor/driver can't handle 144012:26
I-kidoargonel  ^^12:27
argonel|kubI-kido: i should mention this setup was working for several months, until one day it stopped12:27
skywalker_I just reinstalled it anyway because one of my windows programe12:27
argonel|kubthis is not mine, so the details are sketchy as to exactly why12:27
posingaspopularargonel|kub: you cant configure your aspect ratio in X?12:27
skywalker_wasent working right12:27
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argonel|kubposingaspopular: the displayed aspect ratio is a function of your chosen resolution12:28
I-kidohmm, ok, argonel, maybe after a kernel update, u forgot to reinstall your graphics driver12:28
argonel|kubI-kido: i didn't do a kernel update, the machine's owner doesn't know how12:28
influenceany good idea why Xorg is taking alot of CPU even though I have removed compiz?12:29
crackheadjucato: firefox is not in k-menu-->internet.. what should i do? (adept said it was "installed" when i searched for it there..)12:29
argonel|kubI-kido: even stranger, sometimes if i restart the xserver the display returns to normal. if it doesn't though, it gets stuck in 640x480x256 :)12:29
Jucatocrackhead: try "sudo apt-get install firefox" in Konsole12:29
crackheadwhy am i trying it there, rather than adept?12:30
I-kidoargonel, tis is too complicated for  a noob like me12:30
I-kido:012:30
Jucatocrackhead: to get more detailed error messages12:30
Jucatocrackhead: or rather, if you want. just type in "firefox"12:30
crackheadpackage.. not available.. referred by another package..12:30
Jucatoto check if it's really installed12:30
Jucatohm..12:31
crackheadcommand not found12:31
Jucatoso it's not installed...12:31
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crackheadso, how do i install it?12:31
Jucatocrackhead: please check if you have your repositories enabled. specially the main ones12:31
Jucato!repositories | crackhead12:31
crackheadwhere? in adept?12:31
ubotucrackhead: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:31
Jucatoyep, if you want to work in Adept.12:32
crackheadhow come i had enabled them in another kde session and now they're not still enabled and i have to re-enable them?12:32
Jucatoum.. I don't know...12:33
goearHey, I have a little problem, I dont get the whole package list or at least I think so, when Im on my other computer running kubuntu I get much more packages, maybe because there are more for that distrib.. Im not sure.12:34
goearanyone knows why it is?12:34
gugu^HELP to install Canon LBP-81012:34
Jucatogoear: it means you don't have some of your repositories enabled. so you don't have access to other packages12:34
Jucato!repositories | goear12:34
ubotugoear: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:34
crackheadim looking at firefox in adept. it shows it installed--possibly in ubuntu, but i am running kubuntu..?12:35
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CaBlGuY!mp312:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:35
goearubotu thats for kubuntu, what for ubuntu? how can I enable repositories in Ubuntu?12:35
Jucato!ubotu | goear12:36
ubotugoear: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:36
goearlol I just spoke to a bot, Im idiot12:36
Jucatogoear: well, this is #kubuntu... so  it will give answers for Kubuntu (most of the time)12:36
crackheadwhen im in adept, and i look at installed mozilla things, when i go to uninstall mozilla, it shows uninstalling a metapackage english language as well? will this harm the rest of my kubuntu?12:37
Jucato!info mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb12:38
ubotumozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb: Mozilla Firefox English language/region package. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1 (edgy), package size 169 kB, installed size 740 kB12:38
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CaBlGuYok, for some reason I'm getting a "converting files failed" when I try to burn an audio CD form MP3 files..   worked b4 this time..  what gives?  Anyone know??12:39
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CaBlGuYOh..  I'm using serpentine12:39
Jucatohm.. #ubuntu guys would know12:40
I-kidoserpentine is a ripper ?12:40
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CaBlGuYno..12:40
CaBlGuYit's an audio CD burning app12:40
I-kidohmm12:40
Jucato!info serpentine12:40
ubotuserpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB12:40
I-kidoI got k3b12:40
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yaccin3 k3b12:40
CaBlGuYcan't use K3b eather..  get the same error..  somehting has heppened when I did an update or somethin..12:41
crystufer2000!pastebin12:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:41
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JucatoCaBlGuY: you need libk3b2-mp3 for K3b to burn mp3's to audio cd12:41
CaBlGuY!codecs12:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:41
CaBlGuYJucato:  while that codec work with serpentine as well?12:42
JucatoCaBlGuY: nope. it's libk3b2-mp3... for k3b :)12:42
CaBlGuYK, lookin it up now..12:42
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CaBlGuYK, seems to b workin..  thanks Jucato  :)12:44
SlackRathola jucato... :D12:44
Jucatohi SlackRat12:44
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skywalker_are you realy the cable guy\12:44
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JucatoO.o12:44
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CaBlGuY*rolls eyes*12:44
eilkercant i open *.wmv files in kubuntu ?12:44
CaBlGuYno silly...   it's my nick form like wwaaaaaaaaaayyyyy    back in the day..12:45
ubuntuholas12:45
skywalker_mmm12:45
SlackRatubuntu, hows the dual boot?12:45
CaBlGuYeilker:  yes..  DL codecs..12:45
CaBlGuYor.. u can install VCD12:45
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CaBlGuY!vcd12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
CaBlGuYummmmm12:45
eilker!codec12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
skywalker_ahaha12:45
CaBlGuY!vcd media player12:45
eilker!vlc12:46
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:46
CaBlGuYerr.. yea that too..12:46
CaBlGuYLOL12:46
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eilker!codecs12:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:46
eilker:)12:46
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SlackRatubuntu, everything work as planned?12:48
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CaBlGuYok, is there somethin else I need to install to be able to normalize the tracks?12:51
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mythtvgenii: how *are* u? heard u've been very sick01:02
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neptunepinkwhat's the command for when dpkg chrases?01:04
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Jucato!adeptfix | neptunepink01:06
ubotuneptunepink: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:06
eilker i wanna record my desktop as a video file, how can i do it with vlc player ?or with any other tool ?01:07
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zblachquick question. i've a whole bunch of files nested in folders where the files have the same names, but different folders01:09
zblachcan i remove the files only?01:09
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SlackRatbiab01:10
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arcasaHey all.01:11
arcasaMorning, evening or night.01:12
Minatakuzblach: I believe you can do this: " rm */* "01:12
MinatakuWhich should delete files and leave directories intact01:12
MinatakuOf course if you need to go deeper just add another /*01:12
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MinatakuIf you don't want to delete the files in the base directory use " rm ./*/* " and so on01:13
arcasaOuch... The power of conversation appears to have no effect!01:13
Minatakuarcasa: Your IRQ was deferred01:13
Minatakulol01:13
zblachMinataku: there's a whole bunch of nesting01:13
zblachbut i have decided on a solution01:13
Minatakuzblach: Do it for as deep as you need01:13
zblachvariable depth :S01:13
zblachbut i do have a solution01:13
MinatakuThen step back one by one01:13
arcasaMy IRQ? :(01:13
zblachtree -fi | grep FILENAME > delete01:13
zblachand the del everything in delete01:14
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zblachthanks anyways01:14
Hirvinenzblach, Minataku: If you only want to do something to files, you should use find . -type f -exec01:14
MinatakuMy method works too, I've done it before01:14
MinatakuSince without -f, rm won't delete directories01:14
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HirvinenOr use xargs to pass that list of files to a program.01:14
zblachHirvinen: that's also good01:15
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eilker!kiba01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
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zblachrm can't read from a file, it seems01:15
Jucatosayonara, Minataku-san!01:17
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eilkeranyone using xgl+kiba-dock ?01:17
eilker!kiba-dock01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
yaccineilker: i used aiglx and kibadock01:19
yaccinbut atm im using avant-window-navigator01:19
yaccini like it more then kiba dock01:19
eilkerdo u know a how-to for avant-window-navigator ?01:20
eilker!avant01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
yaccinforum.beryl-projects.org01:21
yaccin^^01:21
yaccinits in trevis repo01:21
eilkerlet me try :)01:21
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eilkeris it fantastic ?01:21
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hawk_i have two windows partions that i would like to mount how would i go about doing that i have allready installed the ntfs drivers but i just dont know how i can mount them01:23
posingaspopular!mount01:24
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:24
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hawk_where do i find diskmounter at01:25
hawk_fstab01:25
hawk_soryy01:25
posingaspopular!fstab01:26
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:26
posingaspopularhawk_: open a konsole01:26
Rob-Westim back to kubuntu01:26
Rob-West:)01:26
hawk_ok01:26
posingaspopularand type fstab01:26
posingaspopularRob-West: awesome01:26
Rob-Westso dont disown me01:26
hawk_it not working01:26
hawk_command not found01:27
posingaspopularerm01:27
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Rob-Westkubuntu is nice01:27
neptunepink"sudo nano /etc/fstab" :)01:27
Rob-Westdunno why i left it01:28
posingaspopularneptunepink: thanks i always for the nano01:28
prakdoes anyone know how to see and install individual packages separately in konsole?01:28
posingaspopularwhat does nano do?01:28
Rob-Westits a text editor01:28
zblachposingaspopular: it's a text editor01:28
Jucatoprak: sudo dpkg -i package.deb01:28
zblachprak: sudo apt-get install package01:28
hawk_k i have it up now what? thank you01:28
zblachcan i iterate through a file to rm?01:28
zblach'rm all files listed in this document'01:29
posingaspopularcoolness i have school, talk/help/ask for help to everyone later01:29
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epimethahoy folks!01:29
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epimethwhat packages do I need for apache2 with php and curl (don't need or want mysql)?01:30
epimethapache2-mod-php ?01:30
zblachdo you really want curl?01:30
epimethsomething like that, right?01:30
epimethyes01:30
epimethnot want... need01:31
epimeth:-)01:31
zblachkk01:31
epimeththo I'm pretty sure curl comes with the regular php, no?01:31
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Rob-Westi even an use my new video card01:32
hawk_what would the mount command i have mounted them before it just says i dont have access to them01:32
Rob-Westit may be old but its still good for basic kubuntu01:32
Rob-Westwhat r html editors01:32
Rob-Westhow do they work01:32
hawk_!DiskMounter01:33
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse01:33
epimethRob-West: I'm not sure I understand your question... do you mean a wysiwyg?01:33
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epimethzblach: you still with me?01:33
Rob-West!htmleditors01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about htmleditors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
hawk_nvm thanks should have looked closer at what you said befor01:33
zblachepimeth: i'm here01:33
hawk_*before01:33
zblachi know nothing about php01:34
zblachi was just reading an article about how insecure curl was01:34
zblachand the name drew my attention01:34
hawk_what do you need to know about php01:34
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epimethhawk_: just what the package name is for apache2/php01:35
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epimethand the php needs to have curl support01:35
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epimethzblach: curl is just a wrapper for a tcp socket... I think we all know those aren't secure :-001:36
epimethnor do they need to be01:36
hawk_epimeth: sorry i dont know anything about that01:36
=== rifux Salut
epimethlol01:36
epimethkay01:36
epimethI'll just !apache2-mod-php01:36
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epimeth!apache2-mod-php01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apache2-mod-php - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
epimetherg01:37
epimeth!apache201:37
ubotuapache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB01:37
epimeth!php501:37
ubotuphp5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB01:37
epimethno link!?01:37
epimethstupid ubotu01:37
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epimethahhh... libapache2-mod-php5 it is then!01:38
epimethRob-West: what do you need to know about html editors?01:38
epimethtechnically, any text editor can be used to write html01:39
chadcould someone help with superkaramba? trying to get the liquid weather widget working01:39
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wimpiesdoes anybody know of a tool/command I could use from XP to boot linux from my running XP (I need to reinstall XP and want to avoid downloading/burning a new rescue disk)01:43
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epimeth!kwebdev01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwebdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
epimethwimpies: you'll need to reinstall grub or lilo to your mbr01:49
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epimethbut to do that you still need to download/burn a disk01:49
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Jucato!kdewebdev01:49
ubotukdewebdev: web development apps from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 60 kB01:49
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wimpieshmm. so nothing I could run point to /dev/hdax and it would load ...01:51
Rob-Westhow do i close X01:51
Rob-Westso i can install my video driver01:52
Rob-Westdrivers*01:52
hawk_thank you everyone for your help dos anyone know where there is a good list of linux games01:52
epimethalt-crl-del01:52
JucatoRob-West: logout, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login to the command line, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"01:52
Rob-Westthanks01:53
epimeththat works, too01:53
epimeth:-)01:53
Rob-West:)01:53
Jucatoctrl+alt+del actually doesn't work...01:53
DaveQBsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop01:53
DaveQByeah thats it01:53
Rob-Westcan i do it when im in01:53
DaveQBit just restarts X01:53
JucatoRob-West: no01:53
DaveQB:)01:53
Rob-Westy not01:53
JucatoCtrl+Alt+Backspace is the one that restarts X01:53
DaveQBin what ?01:53
DaveQByou need to to run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop01:54
JucatoRob-West: because if you do that while you're in KDE, it will shutdown KDE immediaely01:54
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hawk_is there i good list of native games for linux01:54
JucatoRob-West: so do it in one of the consoles (not Konsole)01:54
DaveQByeah, best to log out and do it01:54
Jucato!games | hawk_01:54
ubotuhawk_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org01:54
DaveQBhawk_ google happypenguin, heaps there01:54
hawk_thanks01:54
DaveQBhappypenguin.org i think01:54
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Rob-Westwhats the command01:55
prakif i have installed an application that require opening with wine, where would the application usually be installed?01:55
JucatoRob-West: logout, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login to the command line, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"01:56
DaveQBprak  ~/.wine/fake_c/Program Files ?01:56
DaveQBwhat Jucato said :)01:56
Jucatoprak: if Wine doesn't create a K Menu entry for it, it should be in ~/.wine/drive_c/01:56
JucatoO.o01:56
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Rob-Westsudo /etc/init.d/kdm k thank01:56
Rob-Westthanks01:56
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muru slackrat: thanks .. i sucessfully installed UBUNTU01:58
SlackRatcool, just now?01:58
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muru ... Yes01:59
SlackRatcongrats!01:59
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muru .. btw.. this Adept updater says there are lot of updates available.. but how do i know what is needed and what is not02:00
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SlackRatmuru,  generally let it install everything , their system updates.....are you running dapper , or edgy?02:01
muru Dapper02:02
Rob-Westwow it looks different02:02
SlackRatno problems then, it wont update by default to any newer version, and it keep s up with security updates, latest package versions02:02
SlackRatetc02:02
SlackRatdid you install off the 6.0.6 or the 6.0.6.1  cds?02:03
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muru hmm.. not sure.. how can i check02:05
SlackRatthe cd?02:05
Jucato!version02:05
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ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell02:05
murui burned the live CD a week back and did install from it02:05
SlackRata week, ok cool, i have the older one, without the poiint one02:06
SlackRatif i install its a LOT of updates02:06
SlackRatyou have the latest, youre just catching up with anything since it came out02:06
SlackRatmost updates are shorter02:06
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SlackRatfew pkgs now and then02:07
Rob-Westok how do i restart x02:07
muru.. .Yes it is 6.06.1 LTS... but the adept shows still there are lot of updates02:08
ian_Is it normal for the waiting cursor to blink rapidly? In gnome and KDE as far as I can tell.02:09
JucatoRob-West: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (after logging out preferrably)02:09
SlackRatthere have been a few since it was released  late last summer02:09
SlackRatlet it update02:09
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muru... its not like windows updates.. right?... sometime .. it screws up everything02:10
SlackRattends to fix any lil bugs people found  a long the way plus any securty updates02:10
Rob-Westi dont wanna log out02:10
SlackRatnot usually, not at the moment...there was one way back that knocked out peoples X windows for a day02:10
SlackRatbut it was fixed in a day by the devs02:11
SlackRatit tends to run better when kept up to date02:11
muru..  cool. .let me try my luck :)02:11
SlackRatyou;ll miss all the lil bugs that got caught since june02:11
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SlackRatheh, not much luck to it....may take a  lil time but then you might get one or two a week, three or four pkgs only02:12
Rob-Westyees02:12
Rob-Westnow it works02:12
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Rob-Westhigh res looks cool02:12
JucatoRob-West: you can't restart X without KDE being restarted anyway. Restart X = forced KDE logout. so better logout manually first02:12
muru... thanks... You guys made my install very smooth.. i couldnt believe it... you guys are GREAT02:13
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SlackRatwell, enjoy, learn, and if you can, pay it forward, heh02:15
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xerroz^_^02:16
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xerrozhahaha02:16
xerrozas long as it was written in assembly :)\02:17
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quinohola02:23
quinosoy nuevo02:23
Ash-Fox!firefox02:23
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:23
quinohablais espaol?02:23
Ash-Fox!es > quino02:23
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epimeth!modrewrite02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modrewrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
epimethhow do I add the mod-rewrite module to apache2?02:31
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YasimSomebody knows how to translate OppenOffice?02:42
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mitype2does anyone know of any mmorpg I can play? I really miss Conquer Online\02:42
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coreymon77Yasim: what do you mean by translate, and to what language?02:43
hawk_how do i get Deluge to install adept manager is not finding it and a have the univeral thing turned on02:43
Yasimcoreymon77: from English to Spanish02:43
coreymon77Yasim: just install the language pack02:44
Yasimhow can I do that?02:44
coreymon77apt02:44
Yasimok, let me search...02:44
Jucato!openoffice.org-l10n-es02:44
ubotuopenoffice.org-l10n-es: Spanish language package for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1551 kB, installed size 6956 kB02:44
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YasimJucato: thanks02:47
Yasimubotu: Thanks02:47
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:47
pgravesGuys, I just installed Kubuntu again on a desktop... and now Im trying to customize it visually.... my first target is the login window...... by default its a light blue background with a grey window asking for Username/Password and the word "Kubuntu" in huge blue letters above that..... how can I change this?02:47
YasimA BOT???02:47
Jucato!ubotu | Yasim02:47
ubotuYasim: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:47
hawk_ how do i get Deluge to install adept manager is not finding it and a have the univeral thing turned on02:47
YasimWow... a bot talks to me...02:48
Jucatohawk_: what is deluge?02:48
Yasim**speaks02:48
Jucato!changethemes | pgraves02:48
ubotupgraves: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu02:48
Jucatopgraves: scroll down to the KDM Theme section02:48
hawk_jucato is a bittorrent client and the site says that it is in the repetory02:49
Jucato!info deluge-torrent02:49
ubotudeluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1466 kB, installed size 3888 kB02:49
Jucatohawk_: ^^^02:49
Yasim!ubotu | Yasim02:49
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mefisto__hawk_: you really confused me. I thought you wanted deluge to install adept for you.02:52
YasimJucato : I've traslated it already02:52
Yasimbut the dicctionary is still in english.02:52
Ash-FoxHow does one dump the names of all the packages installed on the system (preferibly without version info)?02:52
JucatoAsh-Fox: "dpkg -L" I think02:52
hawk_mefisto no i want it the other way around srry02:52
mefisto__Yasim: there is a wizard in openoffice that installs dictionaries. In the file menu02:52
hawk_you see it is not showing up02:53
Jucatohawk_: the package name is deluge-torrent. it's possible that you don't have universe enabled, or if you just enabled it now, you didn't Fetch Updates02:53
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Yasimmmm I can't see it.02:53
hawk_i have uviverse enabled02:54
argonelAsh-Fox: dpkg --get-selections02:54
JucatoAsh-Fox: that works too ^^^02:54
Jucatoin fact, that's whay I'm using.. why didn't I say that lol02:54
agentUsing LANG=en_US.UTF-8, KDE/QT applications do not show ISO 8859-2 characters, yet all other non-KDE/QT applications, including rxvt and xterm do show them fine. Why is this? Are the default fonts associated in KDE UTF8 broken? My KDE fonts are all "sans serif" with "monospace" as "fixed width" (in Control Center)02:54
Ash-FoxThanks guys02:54
Jucatohawk_: can you pastebin your sources.list? I'm guessing the wrong universe is enabled02:54
Yasimmefisto__: I've found it, thanks!02:55
hawk_dos linux have a fire wall built into it and if it dos how do you shut it off02:55
hawk_i dont now how02:55
hawk_to pastbin02:55
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Jucato!pastebin | hawk_02:57
ubotuhawk_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:57
mefisto__hawk_: if you're using konversation, there should be a link to a pastebin at the top of this window02:57
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reldruhdoes anybody here have their address book in kontact linked to kopete accounts?03:00
hawk_where is the sources.list att03:00
Jucatoreldruh: I do03:01
Jucatohawk_: in /etc/apt/03:01
Jucato /etc/apt/sources.list03:01
reldruhJucato: I'm trying to get it set up, but when I tell it to use my address book name for a contact, the name goes blank, like there isn't anything there03:01
reldruhJucato: but in the address book all my contacts have names03:01
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Jucatoreldruh: did you "link" the kopete contact w/ the addressbook contact first?03:02
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reldruhJucato: yes. Rght click on a contact in kopete, go to properties, click change address book link and find their name03:03
hawk_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8031/ there you go03:03
Jucatoreldruh: hm...03:03
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reldruhJucato: in the list, it's all fine. Names and email addresses all displayed correctly03:03
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reldruhJucato: this happens for aim and google talk accounts03:03
Jucatoso you see the name of the Address book contact at the top of the Properties page?03:04
reldruhthe title of the properties window is 'properties of meta contact' Under address book link the correct name is listed03:05
Jucatohawk_: did you Fetch Updates already?03:06
hawk_yes03:06
hawk_and i just did it agion03:07
Rob-Westwho was i talking to about html editors03:07
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Jucatohawk_: aah!!!03:08
Jucatohawk_: enable the edgy-backports repository!! :)03:08
hawk_how do i do that03:08
Jucatohow do you usually add/enable repositories? Adept? or manually editing the file?03:09
hawk_adept03:09
Jucatohawk_: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse <--- you need to enable this one03:09
Jucatoin Adept03:09
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coffeehello all03:10
reldruhJucato: any ideas on why it might not be working?03:10
n8k99mmm, coffee03:11
Jucatoreldruh: sorry, no...03:11
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reldruhJucato: oh well. Thanks for trying03:11
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hawk_jucato: thanks it worked03:11
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Jucato:)03:12
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coffeewould anyone be willing to help out with some wireless prob's on new install?  (i've been at it for a few hours)03:12
reldruhcoffee: I'm in the process of doing the same thing. What's your problem?03:13
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hawk_do kubuntu have a firewall03:14
coffeeedgy 6.1 install on sony desktop, doesn't recognize wireless usb adaptor., wired ethernet works fine03:14
BluesKaj!wireless03:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:14
Jucato!firewall | hawk_03:14
ubotuhawk_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).03:14
reldruhcoffee: doesn't see it at all? Have you tried ndiswrapper? Do you know the chipset?03:15
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hawk_!guarddog03:15
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).03:15
hawk_how do i start guraddog in kde03:16
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hawk_guarddog03:16
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Jucatohawk_: you have to install it first.03:17
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hawk_oh03:17
reldruhcoffee: ?03:17
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reldruhdoes anybody know why my wireless card would give me problems on startup, but work perfectly if I log out then log back in?03:19
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ComputerHermit!kde03:25
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:25
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reldruhdoes anybody know why my wireless card would give me problems on startup, but work perfectly if I log out then log back in?03:26
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nonuda_how to install kubuntu without cdrom?03:30
intelikey!install03:30
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues03:30
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scotthow do you set up Compiz after d/l? i used synaptic package manager03:31
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matuteHola!!! necesito ayuda sobre los driver de nvidia en kubuntu03:33
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mememeI need help instilling programs03:34
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mememeI oprn the .tat.gz folder but what do i click on after extract?03:34
neo_'morning03:35
MorboGo to konsole03:35
Morbocd to the folder03:35
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mememeok...03:35
asauphi all03:36
MorboUsually, you do "./configure"03:36
MorboProvided no errors "make"03:36
Morbothen "sudo make install"03:36
MorboWhat are you trying to intsall, anyways?03:36
asaupcan you rememember me the multimedia packages page please03:36
asaupi dont remember it03:36
Morbo!multimedia03:36
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications03:36
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asaupthanx03:36
Morbonp03:36
memememozilla firefox and yahoo messenger03:36
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Morbomememe: OK, there's an easier way03:37
mememewhen i click on the shell script03:37
mememeit gives me the code, but i dont know what to do with it03:37
Morbofor firefox, sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox03:37
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MorboFor Yahoo Messenger, I'd suggest using kopete, which comes with kubuntu03:38
mememethe bin file?03:38
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Morbomememe: Read what I said aboe.03:38
nonuda_mememe: what program?03:38
Morbomozilla-firefox exists in the repositories, mememe03:38
MorboIf you install it that way, keeping it up-to-date is much easier03:39
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nonuda_but u must connect to internet03:39
mememeSorry, I don't know what that means---I am really new to kubuntu03:39
Morbomememe: OK.  Are you at a command line?03:39
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MorboAlso called a terminal03:40
Morbocommand line is the evil name ;)03:40
mememeok--got that03:40
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MorboType "sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox"03:40
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MorboFor yahoo messenger, kopete should be installed already03:40
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Morbokopete handles a bunch of different IM protocols like AIM, Jabber/gtalk03:41
mememewhat is kopete?03:41
fiyawerxanyone know how you can clear your dns cache?03:41
ErikTheRedis there a decent cd ripper for kde other than kaudiocreator?03:41
mefisto__can the k/ubuntu installer resize both fat32 and ntfs partitions (assuming there is enough free space and disk is healthy)?03:41
MHobbitKopete is an IM program that can connect to many IM protcols.03:41
MHobbits/protcols/protocols/;03:42
fiyawerxmefisto__: i did ntfs no problem during it03:42
mefisto__what about fat32? anyone?03:42
intelikeymefisto__ parted can yes.03:42
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fiyawerxif it can do ntfs i'd hope it could hehe03:42
mefisto__intelikey: is parted used in the installer?03:43
Rob-Westcan someone help me03:43
intelikeymefisto__ yes03:43
intelikeyRob-West quanta+ ?03:43
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mememeso after i go to terminal, at the black screen the prompt says (i think) "ubuntu@ubuntu" and i type "sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox"?03:44
Rob-Westyea03:44
Rob-Westi need the repo for it03:44
intelikeymain03:45
Rob-Westi found it03:46
intelikeyscreem - A GNOME website development environment  ?03:46
mememeMorbo?03:46
Rob-Westi found what i wanted03:46
intelikeyaugust - Tcl/Tk HTML editor03:46
intelikeybluefish - advanced Gtk+ HTML editor03:46
Morbomememe: yes03:46
mefisto__Rob-West: if you search for "html editor" and "web dev" in adept, you'll find quite a few03:46
Rob-Westwell i found what i wanted thanks03:47
mememeOk, thanks, but how does it know what folder it is in?03:47
intelikeyno it's not.   that's not what you want.   you want something else03:47
intelikeyyou want vim03:47
intelikeyor is it  macs ....03:48
intelikey:)03:48
Morboemacs.  I almost had to get a lobotomy because of it.03:48
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mememeand Morbo- what is the default password to username 'root'  -  I thought it was 'toor' but that didn't work03:50
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intelikeymememe there is no password for root03:51
intelikeycan't login as root          (unless you change that)03:51
MorboJust type in the password you set whilst installing03:51
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mememei didnt install--live cd using external hd to save stuff on03:52
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pgravesOk, Phase 1: Setting Up Different Login Screen Accomplished... THANK YOU!.... Now I want to try to change the splash screen that loads after I type in my User/Pass... I downloaded a bunch of Splash Screens from the place that I got the Login Themes, but I dont know how to install the splace screens... any help? or any docs?03:52
intelikeymememe then there is no password piriod.03:52
pgravesNote: Im using Kubuntu Dapper03:53
intelikey!splash | pgraves03:54
ubotupgraves: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.03:54
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ErikTheReddoes anyone know of any decent alternatives to kaudiocreator?03:54
intelikeyoh that's 'no_me specific... sorry03:54
Jucatopgraves: it's called ksplash03:55
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Jucatopgraves: you can download some ksplash themes from http://kde-look.org and then install them using System Settings -> Splash Screen03:55
deweygood day mates03:55
Jucatopgraves: no need to extract the contents of the .tar.gz03:55
deweysay is kde 4.0 working in kubuntu?03:56
Rob-Westhow do i lock the screen03:56
intelikeykde 4.0 is not released yet03:56
deweyhmmm kde 4 alpha then?03:56
JucatoRob-West: K Menu -> Lock Session or Ctrl+Alt+L03:56
Jucatodewey: not even alpha yet03:56
intelikeyctrl+alt+L03:57
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pgravesIm in System Settings but I dont see "Splash Screen"03:57
intelikeyJucato dapper ^03:58
pgravesI tried to do a Apt-get install ksplash but it said I already have the newest installed03:58
Rob-Westnow to test my video card03:58
Jucatooh03:58
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aseigopgraves: if you type "splash" in the search bar, do you get anything at all?03:58
Jucatopgraves: it's in there, somewhere... I don't have dapper. you can use the search function in System Settings...03:58
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aseigoyo03:59
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Jucatooooh yoga :)03:59
Rob-Westhow do i test my video card03:59
Rob-Westto make sure it works03:59
draikHow do I make Kubuntu stop using the onboard audio and switch to the sound card instead?03:59
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aseigodraik: for arts, you can do that in the sound system control panel04:00
aseigodraik: as long as the kernel sees the card, it should be listed on the hardware  page04:00
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draikaseigo: I tried that. Wouldn't work04:00
intelikeydraik there is also a wiki on sound stuff04:00
draik!sound04:00
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:00
mefisto__what's the conventional wisdom on medibuntu? Is it "not recommended" by the k/ubuntu people? (legal issues aside)04:00
aseigodraik: for other engines/systems you need to configure them individually04:00
draikaseigo: Thank you04:01
aseigodraik: so.. e.g. for xine you need to configure xine04:01
draikI will try that04:01
aseigoand GOD i can't wait for phonon so we can stop =that= particularly brand of insanity04:01
swanflhas anyone tried the latest feisty fawn? how is it? any problems?04:01
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aseigo"so .. go to these 8 different hidden places and configure the same damn thing over and over again."04:01
pgravesif I go to K>Run "KSplash" it appears to show the splash screen, not give me an option to change it04:01
aseigoswanfl: working well for me...04:02
Jucatomefisto__: it's a 3rd party project. therefore not officially supported04:02
swanflthanks aseigo04:02
intelikeymaking the card you want the default card   slot=0  is a good place to start draik,  howto is on the wiki04:02
swanflno issues yet?04:02
Jucatopgraves: try System Settings -> Appearance or System Settings -> Desktop04:02
aseigoswanfl: they've even finally (just the other day) uploaded new x.org packages so that xephyr works again on x86-64.. .yay!04:02
Jucatoaseigo: nice! :)04:02
mefisto__Jucato: yes but I was wondering if it was discouraged at all04:02
Jucatomefisto__: well, it's sort of a separate distro right?04:03
mefisto__Jucato: like automatix04:03
Jucatoah hm..04:03
Jucatolet me check04:03
Rob-Westwhats the command to test a video card in ubuntu04:03
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Morboglxgears, maybe04:03
mefisto__Jucato: it's multimedia packages04:03
intelikeyRob-West ?04:03
Jucatomefisto__: ah then it has the same warning for any 3rd-party repository/package. Use at your own risk.04:04
Jucatomefisto__: but so far, no warning like Automatix04:04
swanflwhat about the bug where you can't change the display resolution by doing ctrl-alt kpplus or minus?04:04
intelikeyglxgears -iaknowledgethatthisisnotabeancemarktool  or something like that.04:04
Rob-Westi need open gl04:04
pgravesDONE04:04
pgravesPhase II - Complete04:05
Jucatoglxgears -printfps04:05
pgravesOk.... FINAL Phase04:05
Jucatopgraves: found it?04:05
pgravesYeah, found it04:05
Jucatopgraves: where was it under?04:05
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pgravesSystem Settings>Desktop then in the left pane theres a "Splash Screen" option04:06
Jucatoah ok. in Edgy, they moved it out of Desktop04:06
Rob-Westok i need open gl first04:06
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pgravesNow... When I downloading the Login Themes & the Splash Screens, I also downloaded Boot Splash Screens.... Any idea how to install those?04:07
pgravesdownloaded*04:07
Jucatopgraves: unfortunately, those are more difficult to chnage04:07
Jucato!usplash | pgraves04:07
ubotupgraves: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork04:07
estebandidohello... can anyone tell me if kubuntu-ppc will install correctly on a 64-bit G5?04:07
intelikeyright-click .... point click.   right-click  ...04:07
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Jucatopgraves: you can't use bootsplash themes from KDE-Look unless they're made specifically for USplash04:08
intelikeyestebandido while i admitedly have not tested that.   it should.04:08
pgraveshmmm04:09
pgravesoh well04:09
frealitya G5 is Intel-based, I;d think it uses the nomal 64 bit edition.04:09
pgravesOh, also... can I have different "Desktop Icons" for different virtual desktops?04:09
intelikeybasicly that's the same as installing i386  on a k804:09
estebandidono, i bought it before apple went intel04:09
estebandidointelikey: i just spent two weeks on a gentoo installation that "should" have worked04:10
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Jucatopgraves: afaik,no04:10
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mefisto__pgraves: not a bad idea though04:10
pgravesit'd be nice to be able to configure a path for each desktop04:10
estebandidoi'm on ubuntu now, and would love to have it on my mac04:10
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intelikeyestebandido as i said.   i haven't tested that.      no apples here mate04:11
lontracan you install kde 4 development snapshots in feisty?04:11
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frealityif the liveCD works, then it'll install04:11
estebandidoi'm so frustrated, i've considered selling the machine04:11
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frealityestebandito. I don't know much about Macs and linux. but http://www.linuxactionshow.com is run by a couple guys that switched to linux from a mac.04:13
intelikeyfreality it'll install in some places where the live CD wont run04:13
Rob-Westok how do i install opengl for an nvidia video card in ubntu04:14
Rob-Westkubuntu*04:14
estebandidofreality: too late to go back... i've wiped the partition table04:14
intelikey!ati | Rob-West04:14
ubotuRob-West: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:14
estebandidoit's linux or the curb04:14
estebandidooh, wait, i read that wrong04:14
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n8k99linux runs pretty well on a mac04:18
n8k99only thing is you don't get Flash04:18
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MenaHI04:18
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Menastdin, are you here04:19
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intelikeyn8k99 so there is nothing missing really  :)     kool04:19
Menaintelikey,04:19
intelikeyMena04:19
Menaintelikey, i had a prob with gueb bec of renistall xp and i did as on th ewiki page but nothing happnend04:20
n8k99pretty much- have had kubuntu on my powerbook since hoary04:20
Menagurb*04:20
Mena!gurb04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gurb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
intelikeystill no grub prompt at boot ?04:20
Menaintelikey, yes04:20
intelikey?04:21
Menaintelikey, i installed it on root04:21
Menaintelikey, or that will not work04:21
Menaintelikey, must boot part04:21
Menaintelikey, i dont know04:21
Mena :|04:21
intelikeyneeds installed to the mbr     i'd think.04:21
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intelikeyMRB04:22
intelikeyMBR04:22
intelikeyi'll get it right if you give me long enough04:22
Menaokay04:22
Menaintelikey, i did this04:22
Menaintelikey, sudo -i then sudo fdisk -l then mkdir /mnt/root then mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/root04:23
Menaintelikey, the grub-install --rootdirectory=/mnt/root /dev/hda104:24
Menaintelikey, so what is wrong04:24
Menaintelikey,and i git this no report errors04:25
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Menaintelikey, and first its says ignore something stage1 one or something like that also04:25
frealityquestion. there any deskbar like applets for KDE?04:25
intelikeyyeah aside from the second instance of sudo being superflutious       the device should have been  /dev/hda  not /dev/hda1      i think.04:25
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Menaintelikey, i went to the wiki and its says choose your write linux part04:26
Menaintelikey, i mean kubuntu or ubuntu04:26
Menaintelikey, :)04:26
intelikeylet me look at the page a minute.    i'll get back to you.04:27
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Menaintelikey, ok take your time04:27
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epimethanybody good with regexps?04:31
epimethcuz grep is giving me a leeetil problem04:31
epimethgrep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo04:31
epimethin other words... I want the files and rownumbers of [template]  pages which contain the string ':}' followed by anything that is not in the following list: <, a space character, or a double quotation04:32
epimethproblem is I'm also getting back rows that end in ':}'04:33
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epimethwhich makes sence, cuz \s does not cover \n04:33
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epimethbut when I add \n to the list ([^\<\s\"\n] )04:34
epimethit still finds them :-(04:34
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fudgeyhello!04:35
Menahi04:35
epimethahoy!04:36
intelikeyMena ok the wiki agrees with me on the mbr issue.04:37
Menai realy dont know what is mbr04:37
Menaor what is meaning04:37
intelikeygrub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/hda  <<< that's what the wiki said for an example.    that will install frub on the MBR == master boot record    rather than /dev/hda1 == first primary partition04:38
intelikeyfrub ?      heh   grub04:38
Menaohh ok thanks04:38
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Menaso ist hda just hda04:39
Menaits*04:39
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Menaokay i will try04:39
intelikeyyep that's what i told you the first time.   ^^^04:39
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Menathaanks :) ^_^04:39
epimethinteli: you know regexps perchance?04:39
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intelikeyepimeth a little about it04:40
intelikeyepimeth   man regex04:40
intelikeyepimeth what you want is ?04:41
intelikeyor was it just a pool ?04:41
intelikeypoll04:41
epimethgrep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo04:41
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epimethit is 'finding' the \s04:41
intelikeyok inside ''  and using \  is redundant04:42
intelikeytry ""04:42
epimethjust making sure :-)04:42
epimethokay... I'll try that...04:43
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epimethnope04:43
epimethsame exact list04:43
frealityepimath -are you looking an "s" or "\s"?04:43
epimeth\s04:43
intelikeyk let me test it a bit and get back to you.04:43
epimethcheers04:43
epimethalso, \n... but that should be included in \s04:43
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frealitytry \\s instead04:44
epimethhmmm04:44
stdinepimeth: you may want to install kregexpeditor04:44
stdin!kregexpeditor04:44
ubotukregexpeditor: graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1080 kB04:44
epimethnaw... that'll match \ and s04:44
epimethI need \s04:45
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intelikeywhat is \s ?04:46
fudgey!04:47
stdin\s = A space character04:47
epimethspace04:47
epimethalso, tab04:47
epimethnewline04:47
intelikeyjust use the space.04:47
epimethstdin04:47
epimethyou seem to know what you're talking about04:47
intelikey\n is newline04:47
epimethhelp me out?04:47
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epimeth\s should match newline as well04:47
epimethwith /m04:47
epimethbut I'm using regexp... so I'm kinda stuck04:48
epimethgrep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo04:48
stdinepimeth: I know a bit about it, but i'm no expert and all I know is what I've found from when I needed it04:48
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intelikeyepimeth grep -ne ...04:49
epimethegrep?04:49
epimethI'll give it a shot...04:49
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intelikeyno egrep is  -E  not -e04:49
epimethwhups04:50
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epimethnope and nope04:50
epimethadded the \n manually, too04:50
epimethdoesn't work, either04:50
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intelikey-E, --extended-regexp   -e PATTERN, --regexp=PATTERN       but i still say \s seems like an odd duck.04:51
jose__who knows a mp3 player with skin transparent?04:51
joey__anyone know abodu the add/remove features?04:51
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bonbonthejonjoey__: what do you mean?04:52
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joey__stupid thing wont add prgrams04:53
epimethtried it with a space... doesn't work, either04:53
epimethwtf04:53
bonbonthejonjoey__: try using adept instead, i havent had good luck with add/remove either04:53
epimethmaybe '^' is not the 'not' symbol in grep?04:53
mefisto__joey__: what do you mean it won't add programs? are programs listed?04:54
freality^ is beginnig of line04:55
joey__There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages04:55
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epimethnot if its in square brackets04:55
joey__when i apply changes to install a program04:55
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epimeth[^ = exclude04:56
jose__who knows a mp3 player with skin transparent?04:56
stdinepimeth: try ':\}[^\<\s\"] ' (move the 1st '\')04:56
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intelikeygrep -ne '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' *04:57
intelikeyBinary file 18177.zip matches04:57
mefisto__joey__: and did it download anything?04:57
joey__no04:57
bonbonthejonjoey__: try using adept04:57
mefisto__joey__: try installing the same prog in adept. It probably gives you more feedback04:57
jose__install kpackage04:57
epimethmuther04:58
epimethnothing is working?!?!04:58
bonbonthejon!kpackage04:58
ubotukpackage: KDE package management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 679 kB, installed size 1388 kB04:58
intelikeyepimeth what do you want it to do ?04:58
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mefisto__joey__: if it didn't download anything at all, the repositories in sources.list might not be right, possibly04:59
epimethI'm making sure that none of our templates have extraneous characters in them04:59
joey__gave me the same feedback for both04:59
norbertTrying to do a clean Feisty install on a server: 2 raid 1s -  /root (md0) and /home (md1). Due to previous issues, I just cleanly wiped and formatted the previous /root. In the installer, it recognized the partitions and made the new root raid (md2). When it tries to go back to the partition window, I get an error: Could not stat device /dev/md/1 - No such file or directory04:59
bonbonthejonjoey__: open konsole and run "sudo apt-get update" to see if it downloads04:59
intelikeyyou are looking for strings in all files in the pwd and sending the output to a todo file that is overwritten each time you run that.   <epimeth> grep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo04:59
stdin':\}[^\<\s\"] ' seems to look for (in "English") ":}" with any character except A space,< and "04:59
epimethso if a colon or a star appears outside of a template call - {:name:} or {:page:name:} - I need to move it to inside the language file05:00
norbertApparently, the installer sees my /home (md1) and tries to work with it; I don't need it to recognize it - I can do it after the install, but I can't continue the installation due to the error05:00
joey__bunch of errors05:00
bonbonthejonnorbert: where did you install grub05:00
epimethstdin: exactly05:01
norbertbonbonthejon: mbr05:01
bonbonthejonnorbert: ok, i knew there was a problem trying to install grub on a raid05:01
bonbonthejonnorbert: do you have a swap?05:01
norbertbonbonthejon: specific to feisty? (previous setup was Edgy, and it worked fine)05:02
norbertno, I do not05:02
epimethI'm looking for :} followed by anything that isn't a space, an html tag, or the end to an html property05:02
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norbertbonbonthejon: I can shave some of the /root for swap w/o having space issues. Will this help somehow? (don't see how this is related)05:02
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bonbonthejonnorbert: I dont know, I thought you had to have a swap05:03
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norbertbonbonthejon: for that matter, I suspect I could make a small /boot if that's the real issue05:03
norbertbonbonthejon: nope; Edgy installed fine with no swap and root on raid. Unless feisty requires it.. (this is the alternative cd)05:03
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norbertbonbonthejon: the real issue seems to be that I have a previous /home raid1 I don't want to destroy. Is there a good way to make a clean install w/o it messing with /home?05:04
bonbonthejonnorbert: no, I've done dapper with swap and a separate boot, root on raid05:04
MegaVolthi, got a problem installing kubuntu feisty on amd6405:04
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mefisto__joey__: you could try http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ to get a new sources.list05:04
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MegaVoltclicking install doesnt do anything, if i paste the command in the konsole i get05:04
MegaVolthttp://rafb.net/p/tHKIIK55.html05:04
MegaVoltany ideas05:05
bonbonthejonnorbert: you should be able to only format the other partitions, and mount /home05:05
Menaintelikey , thanks its worked05:05
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Menaintelikey , i dont thought that it would be simple05:05
Menaintelikey , heheeh :)05:05
bonbonthejonMegaVolt: I prefer using the alt. install cd, it seems to have less problems05:05
norbertbonbonthejon: I should mention that the reason I formatted /root outside of the installer was because it was giving me the same error for the /root raid. After, I formatted /root, installer works fine for setting up the new partition. I sincerely hope that there is a solution outside of repeating this scenario with /home05:05
intelikeyepimeth grep -ne ':}' | grep -ve ':} '05:06
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epimethlol05:06
epimethnice05:06
norbertbonbonthejon: I'm trying to format other partitions, and mount /home later; Installer doesn't get as far as letting me select "/" for a partition :-)05:06
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bonbonthejonnorbert: its been months since I set up my server, I dont remember how everyting worked05:07
intelikeywell just a thought.   if you can't write it short,  write it long.05:07
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norbertWhat's the use of having a separate /home if everytime I need to reinstall /root, everything complains so much.. *sigh*05:07
norbertbonbonthejon: heh. Hopefully some other kind soul has some answers05:08
epimethinteli: great workaround05:08
epimethcheers05:08
epimethI'll just pipe to all the ones I don't want :-)05:08
MegaVoltk ill try the alternate cd then ... seems like a really strage bug05:08
ghetekif i have a dell d610 with onboard video intel 815 would beryl be ok?05:09
MegaVoltany way to use some kind of text mode install with the normal cd ?05:09
bonbonthejonnorbert: the way i got around a similar problem was I took out the drive with the data, I put a new drive in, set up the system, reinserted the data drive, copied everything over, then added the data drive to the raid05:09
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bonbonthejonMegaVolt: i dont think so05:09
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ian_Is gmail not working for anyone else?05:09
bonbonthejonghetek: intel cards have open drivers, I believe, so they should do pretty good with beryl05:09
intelikeyepimeth i'm better at just "getting it done"  than "doing it right"   but hey,  what is right ?05:10
stdinian_: yeah, working fine05:10
epimeth$ isn't friggin working/!!!!!!05:10
intelikey\$05:10
MegaVoltthe .py script coomplains about missing init methods - am i the only one with this problem? the error message sounds like some script error to me, not a hardware problem05:10
epimeth| grep -ve ':}$'05:10
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epimeththat'll match a $ literal05:10
epimethI want the end of line05:11
epimeth\n isn't working either05:11
epimeth\r\n05:11
epimeth\r05:11
epimethnothing05:11
epimethwtf05:11
ghetekbonbonthejon: thanks! i will install it.05:11
CShadowRundam. :(05:11
intelikeytry the "" in place of the ''05:11
CShadowRun$ man women05:11
CShadowRunNo manual entry for women05:11
CShadowRunjust as i thought linux was the answer for everything :(05:11
norbertbonbonthejon: this is assuming I have an additional ~450GB drive. :-)05:12
bonbonthejonCShadowRun: i found a web page will unix jokes like that05:12
bonbonthejonnorbert: if you have a raid you should have more than one drive05:12
intelikeyepimeth       grep -ve ':\}$'     works.05:13
ghetekis there an antivirus that i can run on my kubuntu partition to search my windows ntfs partition?05:13
CShadowRun[bonbonthejon-> i'd like a link :D05:13
intelikeyepimeth so does  grep -ve ":\}$"05:13
bonbonthejonghetek: if you mount the ntfs partition a linux anti-virus shoudl be able to05:13
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stdinghetek: ClamAV is one05:14
norbertbonbonthejon: wait; Install the system with one drive (non-raid); Mount data raid partition (will this mount normally like ext3?) Copy over data to system drive; Zero the data drive and re-add it to the raid?05:14
ghetekis clamav gui?05:14
ghetekstdin: is clamav gui?05:14
shriphani!gnutella05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
ghetek!amule05:14
ubotuamule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB05:14
bonbonthejonghetek: if its not there is a gui for it05:14
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ghetekbonbonthejon: ok thx05:14
shriphanighetek: amule supports gnutella ?05:14
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stdinghetek: no clue, never used it, but I think it's probably a commandline app, that just scans the files every now and then, with cron05:15
bonbonthejonnorbert: redo the system with raid, plug the old drive in, it should show up as another raid, then mount the second raid and copy05:15
ghetekshriphani: no actually shareaza does and there is an entry in the wiki on getting shareaza working with wine in ubuntu, ive done it its easy05:15
shriphanihmm.... no native apps for that ?05:16
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MegaVoltif im using the feisty install cd right now is there a way to see which version it is (herd) ?05:16
epimethgrr... screw it... I'll go through the list and erase the ones that are only newlines myself05:16
epimeth:-(05:16
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norbertbonbonthejon: I can make a temporary raid1 during install, just using one drive?05:16
intelikeyepimeth heh so does   grep -ve ":\}05:16
intelikey"05:16
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bonbonthejonnorbert: yes, the install raid will be the new system, set it up for 2, but only put in 105:17
epimethI did a wc on both05:17
epimeth-ve :}$05:17
epimethhad less rows than without it05:17
epimethbut there were rows there that ended in :}05:17
epimethso I'm very unhappy05:17
bonbonthejonCShadowRun: http://www.csd.uwo.ca/staff/magi/personal/humour/Computer_Audience/Funny UNIX Shell Commands.html05:17
norbertbonbonthejon: interesting; I will try that, thanks for the tip!05:17
intelikeyepimeth probably had spaces that you don't see05:17
intelikeyi.e.  grep -ve ":\} $"05:18
bonbonthejonnorbert: like i said, I did a similar thing, took some work, but it worked05:18
epimethits open in kate as we speak05:19
epimeththere aint nuthin there05:19
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frealityepimeth - try '\<:}\>[^"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:<'05:20
ghetekhow do i use ifconfig to find my gateway?05:20
ghetekis there a simple ipconfig for ubuntu?05:20
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frealitycrap, how do I paste raw text?05:20
epimethgrep -ne ':}' *.tpl | grep -ve ':}[ ] ' | wc05:21
epimeth   1197    2644   8831105:21
stdinghetek: use the command "route -n"05:21
epimethgrep -ne ':}' *.tpl | grep -ve ':} ' |wc05:21
epimeth   1197    2644   8831105:21
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epimethohhh05:21
epimethheh05:21
epimethmy bad05:21
intelikeywell echo ' test :} ' | grep -ve ":\}$"     doesn't omit that line.  but the trailing space is not seen soooo......05:21
ghetekstdin: thnx05:21
bonbonthejonMegaVolt: I dont know of a way to find the herd, but "lsb_release -a" give some info05:22
epimethnow $echo 'test :} ' > test.tpl05:22
epimethopen it in Kate05:22
epimethand see the trailing space05:22
ErikTheRedi'm looking for a decent tagging tool for my music that can pull from freedb, is there anything out there better than easytag?05:22
intelikeyepimeth now pipe it through grep and look.05:23
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intelikeyecho ' test :} ' | grep -ve ":\}$" > test.tpl05:23
epimethgrep -ne ':}' *.tpl | grep -ve ':} ' |wc05:23
epimeth   1197    2644   8831105:23
epimethack05:23
epimethtechnical_indicators_8.tpl:3:{:include:technical_indicators.tpl:}05:23
bonbonthejon!tagging05:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tagging - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:23
epimethtechnical_indicators_8.tpl is currently open in a text editor.  line 3 ends with the }05:24
epimethMUTHER OF GOD05:24
epimethwhy in all that is good and holy are there DOS newlines in my files?!?!?05:25
epimethand while we're on the subject, why were they not returned when I tried \r\n???05:25
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epimethcheers guys... I can take it from here ;-)05:26
epimethmuther05:26
intelikeythat i don't know.05:26
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intelikeybut dos2unix filename    will fix that05:26
epimethjust gotta say "thank you vi, for placing pretty blue ^Ms when something is wrong"05:26
epimethdid I install that package?05:26
epimethnope05:27
epimethwhat's the package, you know?05:27
intelikey!dos2unix05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
epimethlol05:27
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epimethfail me again, bot, and you won't live to regret it05:27
intelikeyah package name   tofrodos - Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos05:27
theshadowhas anyone had issues getting the compiz gpg key?05:28
epimethwoo hoo05:28
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stdintheshadow: isn't compiz in the ubuntu repos?05:29
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theshadowstdin: apparently :S05:31
stdintheshadow: then you should already have the key05:31
nonuda_i have the kubuntu system and have update most recent package and install some of application, and now i want to install it to another cpu can i use ghost?05:31
Dr_willisnonuda_,  the linux program 'mondo/mindi' is good for backingup.restoring linux systems05:32
nonuda_rather then fresh instal and update the packages again05:32
Dr_willistheres proberly a dozen ways you could do it without ghost. :)05:32
ghetekargh... how do i kubuntify the following command? "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"05:33
nonuda_mondo/mindi..hm where can i find it?05:33
Dr_willisnonuda_,  of course the apt packages its downloaded are stored on the hard drive.. you could just do an install. then  either copy those packges over to the new box. or share them, or use that apt cache tool that makes the 2nd pc look on the first one for the packages.05:33
Dr_willisis the hardware in the 2 machines identical?05:33
stdinghetek: replace gdm with kdm05:33
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epimethand after all has been said and done... there were 2 cases05:34
ghetekdamnit i didnt want it to be that easy...05:34
epimeth*05:34
intelikeyepimeth well you have set me on a quest now....    why doesn't   grep -ve "\n"  work ?05:34
gheteknow i just feel stupid05:34
nonuda_no..05:34
epimethinteli... good luck05:34
epimethI, for one, am all grepped out05:34
epimethand its 6:30 am and I haven't slept05:34
Dr_willisnonuda_,  you may be better off installing to the 2nd box. then shareing/copying  the allready downloaded packages05:34
epimethI think a nap is in order before calling the boss to let him know the templates are fixed05:35
metamorphcan kubuntu be loaded into and run from a memory stick05:35
epimethwe want to put the site live tonight :-)05:35
metamorph?05:35
epimethmeta: kubuntu, I don't think so... but debian can05:35
Dr_willismetamorph,  ive heard it can05:35
ghetekif i run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart will i not see all my windows? will my file transfer continue on?05:36
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stdinepimeth: kubuntu is based on debian, so it should be the same05:36
nonuda_ok..then how do i find those downloaded package in my harddrive?05:36
Dr_willisghetek,  that will stop X and kill the x apps.05:36
epimethbut ubuntu's base install is like 10 times bigger05:36
stdinghetek: no, you'll be logged out05:36
Dr_willisnonuda_,  now would be a good time to read up on how apt-get works. :)05:36
Dr_willis!apt05:36
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:36
Dr_willischeck that apt-get manual.05:36
gheteki will give it a shot05:36
metamorphI have debian 3.1 but I can't do anything with it so I got the lastes kubuntu05:36
epimethkubuntu installs a lot more pacakges by default, is all05:37
metamorphlatest05:37
Dr_willisi had one pc set up to be the main 'package server' it downloaded all the updates and stuff.. and the other machines on the lan had their sources.list set to get the files from that machine.05:37
Dr_willisthat was handy05:37
epimethalso, metamorph, it depends on the size of the memory stick :-)05:37
metamorph2 gig05:37
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stdinmetamorph: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent will help05:37
epimethDr_willis: did you jigdo the mirror?  cuz that's just cool :-)05:38
metamorphI'll try - thanks05:38
Dr_willisepimeth,  i didenet go THAT far05:38
Dr_willis:)05:38
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nonuda_thank u05:38
Jucatodangnabit... stdin beat me to it... :(05:38
epimethany hoo... g'morning all! I'm off to bed!05:38
stdinJucato: I always do :P05:38
Jucatohmph05:39
intelikeyepimeth there seems to be something about }\n   that grep can't handle normally05:39
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swanflwhat exactly prompted the ubuntu team to use SVGATextMode in Feisty? this program was last updated in 2000 and doesn't appear to support recent video card, has no man page, and breaks my default console font /size setting?05:39
Dr_willisask in #ubuntu+105:40
Dr_willissounds like somthing i would disable anyway05:40
intelikeysvgatextmode is only a mechenism to switch the screen mode the support is in the kenrel frame buffering.05:41
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hawk_ubuntugames is in a diffrenent lang then english05:42
Kite_DHhow do i make folders invisible???05:42
hawk_is there a site for games that is in english05:42
Dr_willisKite_DH,  hmmm... basicially ya dont.05:42
intelikeyKite_DH ?05:42
Kite_DHhmm05:42
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Dr_willisif the name starts with a . - they are considered 'hidden'05:42
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Kite_DHyes but i installed my lexmark printer05:42
Dr_willisyou are refering to folders in the users home dir?05:42
Kite_DHand now thers a folder called "lexmark" in my home folder05:42
hawk_you can add a . to the at the start of the name of the folder05:42
Kite_DHcan i set a . in front of it?05:42
intelikeyKite_DH you can change the permissions on them.  that will make them unviewable05:43
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Dr_willisWhy does the printer need a dir in the users home dir anyway?05:43
Kite_DHno idea05:43
Kite_DHit made it itself05:43
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hawk_.mathew will not show up05:43
Kite_DHafter i followed the ubuntu wiki05:43
Dr_willisif the stuff is 'installed' i imagine you dont need the dir any more.05:43
stdinKite_DH: from the rpms?05:43
hawk_if that is the name of the folder05:43
hawk_i think05:43
intelikeyKite_DH oh yeah you can move them name to .name  but if something automatically created the dir it will probably whine about you moving it.05:43
Kite_DHif i make .lexmark out of it, will the system still find it as lexmark?05:43
theshadowOk would anyone running compiz and xgl be willing to give me a hand? I can't seem to get things up and running05:44
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Dr_willisKite_DH,  i doubt if the system is using it at all.05:44
stdinKite_DH: you can remove/delete the folder after the install05:44
Kite_DHalright05:44
Rob-Westi need hel05:44
Kite_DHi set a . infront of it05:44
Rob-Westhelp05:44
hawk_is there any good sites for games for ubuntu05:44
Rob-Westmy apt fucked up can i fix it without reinstalling05:44
Kite_DHadept05:44
Kite_DHtype in game05:44
Kite_DH:D05:44
hawk_!game05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
Jucato!games | hawk_05:45
ubotuhawk_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:45
stdintheshadow: compiz on kde is hell, beryl is easier to install05:45
intelikey!adeptfix | Rob-West05:45
ubotuRob-West: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:45
Rob-Westno it was a repo error05:45
Rob-Westi think i fixed it05:45
hawk_i cant get beryl to work on my system05:45
theshadowstdin: blah, beryl just whitescreens05:45
Kite_DHhawk_: #beryl05:45
Kite_DH=)05:45
stdintheshadow: beryl and compiz are mostly the same code05:45
intelikeyRob-West sudo apt-get update05:45
Rob-Westi did05:46
intelikeyRob-West if the repos are setup correctly that should fix you.05:46
Rob-West!pastebin05:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:46
Rob-Westhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8049/05:47
theshadowstdin: ok I'm not exactly sure what you're saying by that comment.05:47
Rob-Westproblem05:47
Rob-Westthere it is05:47
intelikeyhey what a radical idea,   using a pastebin to show us the error05:47
stdintheshadow: if beryl fails, then compiz is likely to fail too05:47
theshadowstdin: thats what I feared05:47
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intelikeyRob-West sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f05:49
stdinRob-West: looks like you have a line like "deb p://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports univer$" in your sources.list, fix that05:49
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stdinRob-West: opps, that's "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports univer$" in your sources.list, fix that05:49
Rob-Westis that why i cant update05:50
bonbonthejonRob-West: fix universe in that line, i should work05:50
stdinprobably05:50
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intelikeyRob-West as me say afore   if you have fixed your sources.list  sudo apt-get update    should fix you.05:52
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stdinthe "fix you" part sounds dubious :P05:53
Rob-Westhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8051/05:53
Rob-Westmy repos05:53
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JucatoRob-West: lines 23 and 24 of that pastebin05:54
stdinRob-West: did you copy it from nano or something ?05:54
Rob-Westyea05:54
stdinthe $ part is where the line continues off screen05:55
intelikeycheck the lines in your editor anyway.   if they are turncated or extruded that's the problemo05:55
Rob-Westwhat should it look like05:55
Rob-Westshow me in PM05:55
stdinRob-West: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8052/05:56
JucatoRob-West: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:56
stdinRob-West: removed some repeated repos too05:56
Rob-Westthanks05:56
JucatoRob-West: follow stdin05:56
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intelikey#AUTOMATIX REPOS START05:56
intelikeyheh05:56
stdinRob-West: or just use source-o-matic05:56
stdin!source-o-matic05:56
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:56
ubuntuajuda do brasil05:56
ubuntu?05:56
Rob-Westi use automatix so what05:57
intelikey!automatix | Rob-West05:57
ubotuRob-West: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:57
intelikey!WorksForMe05:57
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:57
stdin!br | ubuntu05:57
ubotuubuntu: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:57
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Rob-Westdoes this give me all i need05:58
=== intelikey just writes his sources.list by hand, ever sense he learned it's syntax
Dr_willisi cheat and use that easysource site05:58
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stdinRob-West: yeah, that should be fine05:59
Rob-Westill use my repos05:59
=== stdin has a script to write his sources.list
Rob-Weststill getting errors when i try to do "apt-get upgrade""06:00
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JucatoRob-West: update first before upgrade06:00
Rob-Westi did update06:00
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ErtainAfter recording something with my mic, from the command line, I stopped the program.  I can't use my mic now.06:00
stdinJucato: my brain wrote my script :P06:01
=== intelikey ran a sources.list that had one line for a while. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse # restricted
nonuda_how to mount smb?06:01
stdinnonuda_: install smbfs06:01
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stdinRob-West: post the errors to pastebin, from apt-get update06:02
Rob-Westapt-get update gives no errors06:02
intelikeyoh that guy with the second sound card, the one i had to skip out on,  did he get that fixed ?06:02
Rob-Westthe upgrade does06:02
stdinRob-West: ok, post those then06:03
JucatoRob-West: pastebin them06:03
Jucatogah! I can't type today06:03
Rob-Westi did06:03
Jucatothe new errors from sudo apt-get upgrade06:03
Rob-Westhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8049/06:03
nonuda_stdin, thanks, i'm installing now06:03
ErtainDrat, no one knows about my recording problem. :-(06:04
Rob-Westim trying to fix my kubuntu06:05
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intelikeyJucato that's not a recursive error he's getting is it ?   can't configure debtag because debtag is not configured ?     no nm.  it's not.06:06
Rob-Westhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8053/06:06
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intelikeyit's still a bad repo.06:06
Rob-Westi used ur repo list u made06:06
Jucatohm...06:07
intelikeyRob-West the one i made ?06:07
Rob-Westyea06:07
intelikeywhere did you find that ?06:07
Jucatothat was from stdin06:07
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Rob-Westsomeone make me a repo list06:07
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stdinyeah, I made it06:07
Rob-Westwill someone make me one06:08
Rob-WestA GOOD ONE06:08
stdinRob-West: use source-o-matic06:08
Rob-Westidk what options to use06:08
stdinRob-West: and the one I made was A GOOD ONE :P06:08
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shriphani_and yes has anyone checked if the dapper main sources repo is working ?06:09
intelikeyRob-West  you can remove any "#" in that file you want to.06:09
Rob-Westim gonna do them all06:09
intelikeyyou will need the cd   but that will work.06:09
shriphani_intelikey: you use dapper ?06:10
intelikeyelse leave the very first one in.06:10
stdinRob-West: try this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8054/06:10
intelikeyyes dapper06:10
Rob-Westhang on06:10
nonuda_what is the different between browsing the network using smb:// and smbmount?06:10
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calcmandanI installed boson through the apt repositories for 6.06.1 LTS and it crashes when I attempt to load a map. What information would anyone like from me to get to the root of the problem?06:11
Rob-Westdeb tag is messed up06:11
stdinnonuda_: smbmount mounts it to the filesystem tree, smb:// just browses the network, mounting it is like "mapping it to a drive" (windows term)06:11
nightskywith mount you can point to the smb share using a mount point on your local system06:11
intelikeysudo apt-get remove debtag06:12
Rob-Westi need to fix debtag06:12
nonuda_ok..thanks06:12
Rob-Westcan someone tell my y my mic wont work06:12
nonuda_i begin to love kubuntu since i can more understand about it.. :)06:12
Rob-Westill reinstall06:13
reldruhRob-West: mine won't either, although I haven't tried it in a while.06:14
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Rob-Westi cant get my mic to work with skype06:14
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Rob-Westand its brand new06:14
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Rob-Westbbl06:14
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reldruhdoes anybody know why mics don't seem to work in kubuntu?06:15
intelikeyreload is good.    i used to reload twice a week whether i needed to or not...06:15
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intelikeyshriphani_ why did you ask ?06:18
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intelikeyshriphani_ from all the time outs you are having it could be network trubble on your end...06:20
calcmandanI installed boson through the apt repositories for 6.06.1 LTS and it crashes when I attempt to load a map. What information would anyone like from me to get to the root of the problem?06:21
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inept_hello room06:24
intelikeycalcmandan run it from a konsole and see if it burps out any error messages06:24
calcmandanhello inept06:24
calcmandanokay intelikey.06:24
shriphani__intelikey: i am gonna build an antenna for myself06:24
calcmandanalsa error msg: alsa_blitbuffer: Could not write audio data to sound device: Bad file descriptor06:25
intelikeywow  human networking...06:25
intelikeywireless at that.06:25
shriphani__intelikey: i am currently on a cracked wireless connection06:25
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inept_are hearing aids considerd wireless?06:26
sep1318i don't think so o.O?06:26
inept_hmmmmmmmmmm06:26
nonuda_hoe to mount smb06:27
intelikeycalcmandan  ls -l /dev/dsp*06:27
ghetekguys where do i add startup items? (im playing with beryl)06:27
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calcmandanintelikey: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-02-27 22:37 /dev/dsp06:28
intelikeyghetek probably ~/.kde/Autostart06:28
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ghetekintelikey: thanls06:28
stdinnonuda_: man mount.smb06:28
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ghetekintelikey: this is a directory?06:29
intelikeycalcmandan hmmm06:29
stdinghetek: yeah06:29
intelikeyghetek i think i named it right.06:29
ghetekintelikey: so how would i add the command "beryl-manager" to there06:29
stdinghetek: just add a link to the app in there and it will run at login06:29
intelikey!autostart06:29
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:29
nonuda_can i use GUI to mount smb rather then using the konsole?06:30
stdinnonuda_: smb4k06:30
stdin!smb4k06:30
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB06:30
intelikeycalcmandan not enough information for me to go any farther.  maybe someone else.06:30
calcmandanOkay intelikey, thank you for trying though.06:31
intelikeycalcmandan and i don't mean you haven't provided enough.  i mean i don't have enough.  :)06:31
gheteki try to run kcontrol-autostart and nothing happens?06:31
ghetekw/o the questionmark06:31
ghetek!kcontrol-autostart06:31
ubotukcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 268 kB06:31
Jucatoghetek: Alt+F2, run "kcontrol" then search for autostart there06:32
nonuda_can't find smb4k in adept manager06:32
Jucato!info smb4k06:32
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB06:32
intelikey universe06:33
stdin!universe06:33
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:33
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slyfoxI have autoconf 2.60, why do I get this?06:35
slyfox*** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.06:35
slyfox*** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer06:35
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intelikeyslyfox why are you compiling kde ?06:35
nonuda_how to install smb4k06:36
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Nhatzyo jucato06:36
Nhatzhehehe06:36
stdinnonuda_: follow this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu to enable universe, then install it in adept06:36
slyfoxintelikey: I simply want to install this small program http://xoomer.alice.it/rockman81/kmobiletools/06:36
slyfoxintelikey: following the isntructions does not help - Simply download, extract, and run "./compile-kmobiletools.sh".06:36
intelikeynonuda_ enable the universe repo in the /etc/apt/sources.list   update the database and install it.06:36
nonuda_stdin, thanks06:37
slyfoxintelikey: Simply download, extract, and run "./compile-kmobiletools.sh".06:37
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slyfoxintelikey:06:37
intelikeyslyfox and you have build-essential installed ?06:37
slyfox/admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found06:37
slyfox*** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.06:37
slyfox*** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer06:37
slyfoxmake: *** [cvs]  Error 106:37
slyfox./compile-kmobiletools.sh: line 5: ./configure: No such file or directory06:37
slyfoxmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.06:37
slyfoxintelikey: let me see06:37
Jucato!pastebin | slyfox06:37
ubotuslyfox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:37
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slyfoxintelikey: yes, isntalled06:37
JucatoNhatz: yes?06:37
slyfoxJucato: did you sync the phone ?06:38
intelikeyslyfox kdevelop installed ?06:38
Jucatoslyfox: haven't even tried yet... procrastinating is fun06:38
teacheris there any body to know how to install firefox on kubuntu06:38
Jucatoslyfox: it's an svn snapshot. you need an updated admin directory from svn06:38
intelikeyteacher sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox06:38
slyfoxintelikey: installing kdevelop06:38
stdinteacher: or install it with adept06:39
intelikeyslyfox see Jucato above.06:39
slyfoxJucato: that sounds confusing, I think I'll just try the latest beta instead of these svn things06:39
stdinslyfox: works here, make sure you have autoconf installed06:39
slyfoxstdin: I reinstalled it twice, adept says I have 2.60 installed06:40
Jucatoslyfox: how about automake?06:40
intelikeyaren't both of those covered in b-e ?06:40
stdinintelikey: nope06:40
slyfoxJucato: let me see06:40
Jucatointelikey: nope06:40
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slyfoxJucato: installing automake 1.9,06:41
Jucatooh there06:41
Jucatoso you don't need the admin directory after all lol06:41
bhsxhi, just installed 6.10 and trying to figure out how to make win32 my default grub load06:41
Jucatoautoconf and automakego together06:41
bhsxcant find it in system settigns06:41
slyfoxJucato: now it works ! it is installign something06:41
teacherhow06:41
Jucato!grub | bhsx06:42
ubotubhsx: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:42
Jucatobhsx: the GrubHowto ^^^06:42
bhsxta06:42
stdinteacher: open adept (Kmenu -> System -> Adept Manager), search for firefox, and install it06:42
Jucatoteacher: or just type in Konsole: sudo apt-get install firefox06:42
Jucatoor..06:42
slyfoxstdin: after I isntall it, how do I launch it ?06:43
intelikeyis this a bug in  grep  ?   http://pastebin.ca/37667806:43
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Jucatostdin: kmobiletools in the K Menu.. not sure w/c submenu06:43
stdinslyfox: ^^06:43
slyfoxchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!06:44
stdin!xincludes06:44
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev06:44
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stdinslyfox: you probably just need xorg-dev06:44
slyfoxstdin: let me try06:45
teacherstdin: txs06:46
stdinslyfox: you may want to do "sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools" to grab the deps06:46
nonuda_stdin, i have the link u gave me, download and fetch the updates, but i still can't find smb4k06:46
slyfoxARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.06:46
slyfoxchecking for perl... /usr/bin/perl06:46
slyfoxchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!06:46
Jucatoslyfox: last warning. use pastebin or paste only 1 line06:46
Jucatoslyfox: libqt3-mt-dev06:46
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stdinslyfox: and install kde-devel06:46
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slyfoxJucato: ok, sorry06:47
slyfoxI just did this sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools and it is installing a lot of stuff06:47
nonuda_and i see the samba status is not installed, its wierd since i can browse the windows network using smb://06:47
Jucatostdin: most often than not, kdelibs4-dev is enough06:47
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stdinnonuda_: "samba" is the server06:47
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nonuda_oh i see, but why i can't find smb4k in adept manager?06:48
stdinnonuda_: not sure, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache search smb4k"06:48
slyfoxnonuda_: what do u need with samba ?06:48
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stdinslyfox: a GUI for mounting a smb share06:49
nonuda_no i don't need samba, i want to map network drive using mount smb06:49
Nhatzhi ate ulinskie06:49
Admiral_Chicagowow, never seen that one before06:49
slyfoxnonuda_: I just use autofs06:49
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JucatoNhatz: you were looking for me?06:50
Jucatowhy?06:50
nonuda_what is autofs06:50
slyfoxnonuda_: http://www.diigo.com/redirect?http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D206830406:51
stdin!autofs06:51
ubotuautofs: kernel-based automounter for Linux. In component main, is extra. Version 4.1.4-11 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 468 kB06:51
slyfoxnonuda_: read the 2nd last post06:51
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nonuda_ok, thanks06:51
Nhatzjucato; we just missed u back in the other room06:51
JucatoNhatz: I'll eventually return. after some time. see ya06:51
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Nhatzjucato: ok :-D06:52
slyfoxJucato: kmobiletools just asked to me to do "make" I did it and it did a lot of stuff I do not understand, it finished, now what ?06:52
stdinslyfox: normally you just do "sudo make install" to install it06:53
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nonuda_stdin, after apt-get update and apt-cache search smb4k, nothing happens with the search06:53
Jucatoslyfox: what stdin said06:53
Jucatononuda_: do you have the correct universe repository enabled?06:53
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slyfoxJucato: stdin: cool it launched06:54
stdinnonuda_: can you post the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin, you can open it in kate, then just copy and paste it06:54
stdinslyfox: compiling is fun :P06:54
Jucatoit's addictive...06:54
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slyfoxstdin: one day i will understand what I jsut did06:55
elyon225Is it possible to tag MP3 files with multiple artists in Amarok?06:55
Admiral_Chicagogarbage...i did that on Fedora, nothing works06:55
Admiral_Chicagoelyon225: what do you mean?06:55
Jucatoslyfox: the day you understand that, you'll be a guru... only very few people actually can decipher the output of cmake :)06:55
Admiral_Chicagoas in Prince, Charles, Amamander all come up for one track under artist search06:55
nonuda_yes, i enable : http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ type deb and deb-src with component main resticted universe multiverse06:55
reldruhhow would I check if my microphone is working correctly in kubuntu?06:56
elyon225Admiral_Chicago: For example, I have a couple of duet songs and would like them to appear under each artist... right now, for example, I have an entry for "Peter Cetera & Cher".06:56
Admiral_Chicagoelyon225: so if you search Cher OR Cetera, it would come up with that song?06:56
Jucato!pastebin | nonuda_06:57
ubotunonuda_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:57
Jucatononuda_: can you pastebin your sources.list?06:57
elyon225Admiral_Chicago: Well, I would like the artist listing in Amarok to list "Peter Cetera" and another entry for "Cher"... both containing the same track.06:57
JucatoI can see smb4k from the indonesian repos...06:57
intelikeyok it seems that my search has ended with two delimas  1. \n does not work from the command line as a char for grep to search for.   and 2. $ works  but can't be used in a variable.06:58
Admiral_Chicagoelyon225: ya thats what i thought you wanted. I don't know of that being possible. maybe in #amarok06:58
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nonuda_ok..i'm going to pastebins...06:58
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Jucatointelikey: \\n ?06:58
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago!06:58
intelikeyJucato no06:58
elyon225Admiral_Chicago: Yeah, I've tried #amarok... never anyone talking there.  I know with a few different Windows players I used, it was simple (just a seperate tag for "Album Artists" or "Additional Artists").06:58
Jucatointelikey: ah nvm lol06:58
intelikeyJucato grep doesn't understand \n06:58
stdinI could never get \n to work in grep, or sed for that matter :(06:59
Jucatointelikey: maybe \r or \l?06:59
nonuda_and now where can i find the sources.list?06:59
Jucatononuda_: in /etc/apt/06:59
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intelikeyJucato no it doesn't see them correctly.  it doesn't interpret \?07:00
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JucatoO.o07:00
slyfoxnonuda_: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/07:00
slyfoxnonuda_: /etc/apt/sources.list07:01
nonuda_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8059/ there u go07:01
slyfoxJucato: I spend a full day today trying to get my phone to sync, no luck. Thought of Windows Vista appear in my mind, this sucks.07:02
stdinnonuda_: you only enabled the backports one, you nee to add universe to the first line07:02
Jucatoslyfox: I think you're looking at the wrong tool perhaps? I don't know of kmoblietools syncs phones w/ kontact too... try researching on opensync07:02
nonuda_oh i see..ok try it now07:02
slyfoxJucato: opensync is what I spent doing all day07:03
Jucatook07:03
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slyfoxJucato: it connects, but gives an error in return, maybe soemthing to do with KDE 3.5.607:03
Jucatoor something with Kubuntu. who knows..07:03
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slyfoxJucato: Is Vista as bad as they say ? I mean I can get a it for free, it comes with my new laptop.07:04
Jucatodunno. I don't have it07:04
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elyon225slyfox: EVERY review I've read of it says it truly is as bad...07:06
intelikeyhmmm  tr -d '\n'   will make one line out of it's input07:06
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elyon225slyfox: The whole DRM and "activation" thing has totally turned me off to Microsoft now...07:06
faisalguys.. I am using Ubuntu MMC07:06
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faisalcan anyone tell me which THEMES i will be able to use.. in GNOME07:06
faisalid be thankful07:07
elyon225faisal: You can use any themes made for Gnome...07:07
stdinfaisal: any gnome theme07:07
elyon225faisal: Check out www.gnome-look.org07:07
faisalthanks guys. I am on that website..07:07
faisalit has GTK 1.x GTK 2.x07:07
faisalGDM07:07
Jucato!themes | faisal07:07
ubotufaisal: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy07:07
intelikeyoh kool.  \r will put the cursor back at the beginning of line without a line feed...  heh   so text with \r and more text \r will keep overwriting itself...07:09
stdinheh, yeah07:10
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intelikeyi can have a 100k text file that "cat" can only display one word.   lol07:10
intelikey[prompt@~]  cat file.txt07:11
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intelikeynothing07:11
intelikey[prompt@~] 07:11
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teacherhow can i install these themes??????????07:16
Admiral_Chicago!changethemes07:16
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu07:17
Admiral_Chicagothe second link thea07:17
Admiral_Chicagoteacher: ^^07:17
teacherwhere07:17
Admiral_Chicagoteacher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu\07:17
Admiral_Chicagohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu07:17
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Admiral_Chicagosorry the second link07:17
jose__hi everybody :)07:17
nonuda_now i can find smb4k, thanks07:17
jose__i have a "problem" with kubuntu Edgy Eft07:18
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jose__i upgraded my PC's RAM from 256MB to 512MB but it still only uses 256MB07:18
jose__what am i doing wrong???07:19
Admiral_Chicagojose__: how do you know07:19
jose__i checked with kinfocenter07:19
gheteki have a fish:// directory in kubuntu that i want to sync to a folder on my hd07:19
jose__it recognized 502MB but only uses 256MB07:20
ghetekgrsync didnt work07:20
shriphani__ghetek: sync to a hd ?07:20
shriphani__why cant you just copy it07:21
teachertxs07:21
ghetekshriphani__: its too big and i already have some of it transferred07:21
jose__is there anything i can do???07:21
shriphani__ghetek: you mean the copying stalled ?07:21
ghetekshriphani__: i want sync because i am always updating the directory locally and i want a mirror image online that is always up to date07:22
ghetekshriphani__: even if it is a cron job that runs at night07:22
shriphani__oh07:22
intelikeyjose__ free -m07:23
ghetekshriphani__: its an ssh account online, my hosting company gave me 200gb07:23
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jose__total 502 used 495 free 607:24
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jose__so everything is fine???07:24
Admiral_Chicagoanyone tell me the syntax to play a video from terminal07:24
shriphani__a home made beowulf though07:24
nonuda_smb4k has installed, now how can i mapping the network drive?07:24
intelikeyjose__ so it's using 512m07:24
shriphani__Admiral_Chicago: kaffeine video ?07:24
intelikeywhat's the question again ?07:24
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reldruhhow would I test whether or not my microphone is working?07:24
jose__thanks a lot intelikey07:24
stdinnonuda_: just open it, it's quite an easy GUI, and it has help pages too :)07:25
intelikeythat's what i thought it was...07:25
jose__thank god for this channel07:25
Admiral_Chicagoshriphani__: there is a way to do it in VLC07:25
jose__thanks a lot guys07:25
intelikeyjose__ welcome.07:25
jose__why don't u use mplayer07:25
jose__???07:25
shriphani__Admiral_Chicago: vlc is cli ?07:25
Admiral_Chicagoshriphani__: it has a GUI frontend and a terminal back end07:25
nonuda_oh i see, its in the utilities, thanks...i'm out now, thanks guys07:25
intelikeyshriphani__ it will run in or out of the gui07:26
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shriphani__ooh07:26
shriphani__i am really loving knetwork-manager07:27
jose__thanks a lot intelikey07:27
jose__byebye :)07:27
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: any idea?07:27
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teacheranybody: know counter strike irc server07:27
intelikeyjose__ welcome.      but didn't we just do this bit.07:27
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intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago about ?07:27
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Admiral_Chicagothe syntax to play a video from terminal for VLC07:28
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Admiral_Chicagoiirc, you knew it once07:28
Jucatointelikey = cli-freak07:28
intelikeyyeah you remember correctly.   now if i did....07:28
nonuda_oopss...error messages, an error occured while trying to mount the share, detail: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)07:29
teacher;07:29
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago vlc --display 800x600x16 -f something....   it's been a while.07:29
intelikeyand it requires either frame buffering deamon or svgalibs  one or tother to get any satisfatcion out of it.07:30
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, negative...07:31
teacherafter firefox installed in adept how can i open07:31
intelikeybut when you get it setup right and the command right it's as clean/crisp/seemeless of a vidio as i have ever seen.07:31
Jucatoteacher: K Menu -> Internet07:31
stdinteacher: from the Kmenu, or, if it's not there, press Alt-F2 and type in: firefox07:32
intelikeyi had a script set up that i used all time Admiral_Chicago   i'll have to see if i still have it.07:32
stdinteacher: if it's not there, it will be after you logout and back in07:32
Jucatostdin: er?07:32
stdinJucato: er? what?07:33
Jucatoif a newly installed app doesn't appear immediately in the K Menu (even though it should), press Alt+F2, and run "kbuildsycoca"07:33
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago heh the command i remember was     vidio filename.avi      or what ever format...  cause that was the script name...07:33
stdinJucato: I can never remember that command, I just do "dcop kicker kicker restart" :P07:33
Jucatorestarting kicker doesn't always work  though.. iirc07:34
stdinJucato: always worked here07:34
teacherlet me try07:34
Jucato!kmenu_update07:34
ubotuIf your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache07:34
teacherok07:34
teacheri'll try07:34
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nonuda_i can't see smbmnt in adept manager07:35
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stdinnonuda_: it's in smbfs07:36
nonuda_ok, then why smb4k said it must be installed suid root?07:36
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Admiral_Chicagogrr, google is not helping07:37
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nonuda_stdin?07:38
intelikeybah  that's not the one but it's a music randomizer/player for the cli     http://pastebin.ca/376725       still looking.07:39
stdinnonuda_: you may need to run: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount and sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmount and sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt07:39
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nonuda_ok..i have done it, should i restart the pc?07:41
stdinnonuda_: shouldn't have to, at most you'll need to logout and back in07:42
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nonuda_ok07:42
stdinnonuda_: try just restarting smb4k first07:42
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nonuda_done, now i have another error: libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root07:44
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stdinnonuda_: argg :P ok try sudo chmod -s /usr/bin/smbmount and sudo chmod -s /usr/bin/smbumount , that may help07:45
nonuda_Done...07:46
nonuda_now its works...thanks07:46
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stdinyou're welcome :)07:46
nonuda_ok thanks again stdin, got to do some test with wine..i'm out...07:47
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kgx is anyone a pro with excel/open office here?07:51
kgx basiclly i need an equivalent of this sql statement in excel: SELECT COUNT(*) FROM worksheet GROUP BY invoiceno07:51
kgxexporting as csv to a db is not an answer :p (although that works)07:51
Jucato!openoffice07:51
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org07:52
amrushhi guys ..07:53
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amrushi have a broken package(samba) and i can't update my system just because of that ... and i really never dealed with a broken package before07:54
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Rob-Westok07:54
Rob-Westi have a fresh install of ubuntu07:54
Rob-Westkubuntu*07:54
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amrushanyone to help me solve my problem ?07:58
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brandonI do not know how to enable it.08:01
brandonAnyone here?08:01
arrenlexbrandon: Sorry, missed the first half of that. What can't you enable?08:02
brandonAdmin mode08:02
brandonAdmin features08:02
arrenlexbrandon: I take it you're clicking the "administrator mode" button in kcontrol?08:02
brandonyes08:02
arrenlexbrandon: And what is it telling you?08:02
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brandonnothing08:02
brandoni click it and then nothing happened08:03
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arrenlexbrandon: And what happens if you try to run the command "kdesu kedit" from the terminal?08:03
Jucatokedit isn't installed by default08:03
brandonlet me try that08:03
arrenlexJucato: Oh, my bad. What's a simple app that is?08:04
brandon?08:04
Jucatokwrite or kate08:04
arrenlexbrandon: Try "kdesu kwrite" then.08:04
arrenlexThanks, Jucato.08:04
Jucatobrandon: where are you tyring to click on Administrator Mode08:04
brandonsytem setting > user management08:04
Jucatoah..08:05
Jucatotry closing System Settings and trying again?08:05
Rob-Westsup Jucato08:05
Jucatonot too good08:05
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brandonxauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command08:06
brandonkdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.008:06
brandonxauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command08:06
brandonkdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.008:06
brandonXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:06
Rob-Westwell i fixed kubuntu08:06
brandonXlib:08:06
brandonNo protocol specified08:06
brandonkwrite: cannot connect to X server :0.008:06
Jucato!pastebin | brandon08:06
ubotubrandon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:06
Rob-Westbrandon use a PASTE BIN08:06
Rob-Westjeeze08:06
arrenlexI think that would be your problem right there.08:06
brandonsorry man,  thank you08:06
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brandonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8060/08:07
brandonlike that>?08:07
arrenlexbrandon: Yep, that's how you use pastebin.08:07
arrenlexbrandon: Although it's too late now. xD08:07
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posingaspopularcan someone explain to me about trolltech being a kde sponsor etc. i read that in the news but wanted to know more08:07
brandonlol,,  i know08:07
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arrenlexbrandon: What does this say? ps aux | grep X | grep -v grep08:08
Jucatoposingaspopular: basically it just means that they donated an amount of money, and now they can say they're a KDE sponsor08:08
arrenlexbrandon: (say == output when run in terminal)08:08
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Jucatobut that's offtopic now08:08
posingaspopularJucato: it'll still be free though?08:08
brandon?08:09
flaccidwell kde is part of kubuntu08:09
Jucatoposingaspopular: huh? it has nothing to do with price.08:09
flaccidso its on topic08:09
flaccid:p08:09
posingaspopularJucato: i didn't mean free beer08:09
Jucatodon't even get me started flaccid08:09
flaccidhehe08:09
flaccidits not free beer, its free speeh08:10
Jucatoposingaspopular: dude, Trolltech just donated  money to KDE. that's it08:10
seven11_hello i need some help with GeForce FX 520008:10
posingaspopularJucato: kthanks08:10
Jucatoposingaspopular: http://dot.kde.org/1172617283/08:10
seven11_in etc/X11 the driver is nv08:10
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arrenlexbrandon: Did you catch waht I said?08:11
arrenlexwhat?08:11
arrenlex(00:08:24) arrenlex: brandon: What does this say? ps aux | grep X | grep -v grep08:11
LL_Hakaisouhello08:11
brandonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8061/08:11
arrenlex!hi | LL_Hakaisou08:11
ubotuLL_Hakaisou: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:11
arrenlexbrandon: If it's <= 2 lines, you can paste it here. Pastebin is so you don't flood the channel.08:11
seven11_what driver do i need for GeForce FX 520008:12
LL_Hakaisouso i just got a motorola Q, and I wanna connect it to linux.08:12
arrenlex1nvidia | seven11_08:12
arrenlex!nvidia | seven11_08:12
ubotuseven11_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:12
seven11_thanks08:12
LL_Hakaisouanyoen know where i should start on this?08:12
brandonalrigh08:12
LL_Hakaisou!windowsmobile08:12
Rob-Westif i install my video can i just restart X or do i need to reboot the whole PC08:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windowsmobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:12
amrushi have a broken package(samba) and i can't update my system just because of that ... and i really never dealed with a broken package before08:12
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LL_Hakaisou!windows mobile08:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windows mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:12
arrenlexbrandon: Looks fine, sorry... I don't know what's wrong. You could always try rebooting, I suppose; maybe it's just a misconfiguration.08:12
LL_Hakaisou!wine08:13
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:13
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brandonI have tried it08:13
arrenlexLL_Hakaisou: Google for synce. If it's a smartphone chances are it won't work, though. synce is for pdas.08:13
arrenlexLL_Hakaisou: Wine won't help you. It doesn't do drivers.08:13
Jucatoalso try researching on opensync08:14
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Radica1Faith1231hello08:16
Radica1Faith1231i'm back08:16
arrenlexDoes anyone else find kubuntu's kde absurdly slow and laggy, whereas Debian's KDE is a lot more snappy for some reason?08:16
stdinnope08:16
Radica1Faith1231cbx33 are you there?08:16
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flaccidpcbsd kde is snappier than both debian and ubuntu08:17
brandonWhn i clikc administrator mode it goes to a admistrative sceen and then goes out08:17
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arrenlexbrandon: Oh, this is an idea. What does "sudo echo hello" do?08:17
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|lostbyte|!beryl08:17
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:17
brandonit says hello after the command08:18
Jucatobrandon: "kdesu systemsettings" will run System Settings w/ admin privileges immediately08:18
arrenlexJucato: He can't run things with kdesu, though, as we found.08:18
arrenlexJucato: That's what this is about: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8060/08:18
Jucatohere's to hoping it runs this time...08:18
Jucato:(08:19
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blankfazei just tried installing beryl.  i didn't like it that much.  i want something more kdecentric08:19
arrenlexJucato: Oh, you're using the "if it doesn't work keep trying" method xD08:19
arrenlexblankfaze: The aquamarine window decorator for beryl has KDE decorations.08:19
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brandonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8062/08:20
Radica1Faith1231is it safe to resize the root partition if there is plenty of space?08:20
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blankfazearrenlex:  yeah, but beryl-manager looks too gnomey.08:20
arrenlex!gtk2-engines-gtk-qt | blankfaze08:20
ubotublankfaze: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.70-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 364 kB08:20
amrushguys is this a support chat or what ?08:20
arrenlexamrush: Yep08:20
Jucatobrandon: pls don't PM, I can see it fine here08:21
brandonsorry,  i really didnt mean to08:21
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amrushok i have a problem ... a broken package (samba) and i don't know how to fix it ...08:21
flaccidamrush: what08:21
brandon..Lol  iwas tying to make it beep like you did08:21
blankfazearrenlex:  yeah, i reckon.  i think beryl has a lot of promise but i think i will wait a few versions down the line.08:21
flaccidamrush: pastebin the error08:21
blankfazei really liked the cube plugin though... except for some reason i couldn't seem to get different wallpapers on each side08:22
Jucatobrandon: just say my name in here and it will beep me08:22
arrenlexblankfaze: Yeah. I ran into a weird bug where it didn't update the contents of my windows until I moved them. That was annoying.08:22
brandonJucato: lol alright thank you, did you find anything out with the error in console08:22
brandonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8062/08:22
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brandonlol08:23
Jucato:(08:23
Jucatostdin: pls take over08:23
flaccidJucato: i think you need a beer br008:23
brandonstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8062/08:24
stdinhmm...08:24
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stdinbrandon: maybe try "xhost +LOCAL:" then run kdesu systemsettings08:25
amrushhttp://www.pastebin.ca/37675008:26
amrush^^flaccis08:26
amrushflaccid sorry08:26
brandono...:/ something happened08:26
arrenlexamrush: You way that to people often? =P08:26
stdinbrandon: something good, or bad?08:26
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brandondont know08:27
flaccidamrush: have you read the error message?08:27
amrush:P ... ya sure i didi usin -f right now ... and waiting for the error to pop up08:27
stdinbrandon: what's happening then?08:27
brandonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8064/08:27
amrushas the case was few days ago08:27
flaccidok08:27
stdinhmm08:28
arrenlexbrandon: When it doubt: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=kdesu+%28kdelibs%29%3A+WARNING%3A+No+X+authentication+info+set+for+display+%3A0.008:28
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stdinbrandon: what does "echo $DISPLAY" say?08:28
brandoni already tried google08:28
brandonIRC channels are the best when it comes to help08:28
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tauri!wmp08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
tauri!windows media player08:29
arrenlextauri: problems?08:29
tauriok...08:29
taurii need the codecs08:29
brandonecho $DISPLAY08:29
brandon:0.008:29
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arrenlex~w32 | tauri08:29
iridatauri: w32codecs available at: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb08:29
taurithx08:30
posingaspopularwhat is w32?08:30
tauriwindows?08:30
cpk1tauri: you can get the rest of the codecs by using apt to get libxine-extracodecs08:30
taurik08:30
brandonstdin: echo $DISPLAY :0.008:30
stdinbrandon: that's strange it's not working08:30
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brandonwhat isnt?08:31
stdinbrandon: kdesu08:31
stdinbrandon: how long has it not been working?08:31
brandoni just installed it like a few hours ago08:31
brandonfirst time with linux'08:31
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brandonprobably.08:32
stdinbrandon: try logging out, and back in08:32
arrenlex!version | brandon08:32
ubotubrandon: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell08:32
stdinkdesu works on feisty here08:32
taurihow do i install those codecs?08:32
arrenlextauri: Download the .deb file and sudo dpkg -i *.deb08:32
arrenlexin that folder08:32
arrenlexOr you can just tabcomplete the name.08:32
tauriok08:33
brandonNo LSB modules are available.08:33
brandonDistributor ID: Ubuntu08:33
brandonDescription:    Ubuntu 6.1008:33
brandonRelease:        6.10Codename:       edgy08:33
stdinedgy it is then08:33
arrenlexbrandon: And what does "dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop | grep "^ii " | wc -l" say?08:33
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brandonlol..08:34
brandon108:34
arrenlexWell I'm beat.08:34
stdinbrandon: try logging out, and back in, see if that helps08:34
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brandonwill do08:35
arrenlexbrandon: On a whim... what does 'whoami' say?08:35
brandonme08:36
arrenlexbrandon: Nope. Thought you might be trying to run as root somehow. Nevermind... good luck.08:36
brandonill be back08:36
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flaccidamrush: so no error?08:36
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KennethPIf my Firefox doesn't play tv-streams in the Mplayer plugin is that a codecs problem?08:37
rob-westcan someone help me install opengl08:37
rob-westi messed up last time08:37
rob-westi want some help08:37
posingaspopular!opengl08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:37
amrushflaccid: download speed is down the drain ... gonna wait longer apparaantely08:38
arrenlexKennethP: Can mplayer itself play those same files?08:38
flaccidok08:38
arrenlex!ati | rob-west08:38
uboturob-west: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:38
rob-westno08:38
KennethParrenlex: will try that. sound is ok.08:38
rob-westi want someone to guide me through it08:38
tauri!directx08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about directx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
tauriwrarg08:39
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tauridoes linux use directx?08:39
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flaccidrob-west: it guides you, you don't need extra guide08:39
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arrenlextauri: No. xD08:39
tauriso...08:39
flaccidbut feel free to ask something specific if you dont understand08:39
tauridamn08:39
firecrotchIs anyone in here familiar with PHP (##php is completely ignoring my question and staying completely off-topic, as usual) ?08:39
rob-westoh so when i mess up again08:40
flaccidfirecrotch: whats the question08:40
taurii want to play warcraft 3 using wine, but its laggy as hell08:40
KennethParrenlex: doh - where do I enter a URL in Mplayer?...:)08:40
flaccidrob-west: all part of linux/learning08:40
firecrotchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8065/   None of the variables in the switch are being set08:40
arrenlextauri: Do you often wish Linux implemented proprietary APIs made by microsoft?08:40
taurium... no?08:40
flaccidfirecrotch: how is that off=topic08:40
arrenlexKennethP: Just start it from the command line. "mplayer <url>"08:40
KennethParrenlex: ahhh tnx08:41
posingaspopulardo using the M$ word08:41
posingaspopularno*08:41
firecrotchflaccid: everyone in ##php is chatting about some nonsense08:41
flaccidwell the switch looks fine08:42
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flacciddid you do an echo $varname directly after assigning one of the vars?08:42
krautmoin08:42
firecrotchI have it at the end of the script - it's not setting anything within the switch08:43
crystufer2000How can I specify a run path via terminal without cd?08:43
rob-westthis guide is for ubuntu08:43
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flaccidfirecrotch: test it directly after you assign one of the vars in the case08:43
stdincrystufer2000: just use the full path08:43
brandonhello08:43
stdinbrandon: have you tested it again?08:44
crystufer2000stdin No, I mean specify the working directory.08:44
flaccidrob-west: don't priv msg me!08:44
rob-westim trying to say something08:44
rob-westthat guide is not for Kubuntu08:44
brandonnot yet.  why does my irc client look different now,  and i cant hear tones on this08:45
flaccidsay it here08:45
stdincrystufer2000: ahh, maybe setting the $PWD var?08:45
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LL_Hakaisou!WoW08:45
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org08:45
arrenlexrob-west: It's all commands. What's the difference?08:45
flaccidwhich guide are you looking at rob-west?08:45
arrenlex!ati | flaccid08:45
ubotuflaccid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:45
firecrotchflaccid: echoing it right after setting it does nothing08:45
rob-westhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-c737a8e39e49d924079ba3097055127ad3bb6cc808:45
rob-westfor nvidia08:45
stdinbrandon: maybe you are running at a higher resolution now08:46
crystufer2000stdin the what now?08:46
rob-westbecause i have an nvidia MX 42008:46
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flaccidfirecrotch: echo $action on line before the switch to see if that was set08:46
stdincrystufer2000: like "PWD=/path/to/working/dir command"08:46
brandonthe layout looks different tho08:46
stdinbrandon: no sure then08:46
flaccid!repos > rob-west08:47
flaccidread that rob on how to enable restricted repos/packages08:47
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brandonstdin: i still cant use admin functions08:47
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firecrotchflaccid: $action is definitely set before going into the switch, it echo's08:48
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flaccidecho it within each case to see if any case is being triggered08:49
rob-westill use gnome to install my drivers08:49
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firecrotchflaccid: Okay, none of the cases are being triggered08:51
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tulgaI cannot install Edgy on wide screen laptop. howto fix it?08:54
flaccidfirecrotch: echo before the case and in each switch and then compare the echo $action to the value of $_POST['action']  and the case values etc.08:55
rob-westXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".08:55
rob-westwhats this mean08:55
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brandonalright Iam back08:57
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K`zanAnyone know if wpa-psk is doable on the live cd for wireless?  6.08 at least had wep (useless to me) and 6.10 doesn't seem to have anything and help is useless :-(.08:59
tulgaI cannot install Edgy on wide screen laptop. X started. but my display black. howto fix it?08:59
brandonCould someone please help08:59
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brandonI lost the person that was helping me before09:00
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brandonI cannot run admin functions'09:01
K`zanUh, never mind 6.10 unlike 6.08 doesn't even find the card.  Sigh.  Thanks anyway folks.09:01
flaccidK`zan: install wpasupplicant ?09:01
K`zanflaccid: on the live CD, don't think so :-).09:02
LL_Hakaisoudamnit!09:02
LL_Hakaisoui can't install wine for some reason!!!09:02
LL_Hakaisouadept keeps telling me it will break something09:02
LL_Hakaisouand installing from command line says i need vmware-player09:02
brandonPLease someone help me get admin functions on my kubuntu09:03
LL_Hakaisoubut i try to install that, and it can't find in apt-get, and adept won't install anything09:03
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firecrotchflaccid: that doesn't help at all09:04
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flaccidfirecrotch: doing stuff like comparing values is all you can do reallly09:04
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flaccidthe casing matches up?09:05
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brandonflaccid: could you possibly help me09:05
LL_Hakaisou!vmware09:06
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware09:06
deweybrandon, try to open up snaptic up.09:06
deweyand what happens?09:06
firecrotchflaccid: all of the values are equal where they should be09:06
brandonhow do I do that09:06
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firecrotchflaccid: there's absolutely no reason why $action is not triggering any case09:06
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flaccidfirecrotch: thats how it looked to me09:07
flaccidbrandon: whats ya prob09:07
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brandonI cant get admin functions09:07
deweybrandon, go to k menu - system - syanptic package manager09:07
flaccidfirecrotch: i didn't see anything wrong there09:07
flaccidbrandon: what is an admin function?09:07
brandonadministor mofe09:08
brandonmode**09:08
deweybrandon, yeah what are you doing?09:08
flaccidbrandon: i've found that to be common on kubuntu09:08
brandontrying to enable aministrator mode09:09
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dragon_Hello09:09
brandoncould you help me out somehow09:09
dragon_I doubt it I'm here for help my self09:09
brandonflaccid: how should I go about this09:10
flaccidi don't know how to help with your problem. if i could of fixed it when i had the problem i would of09:10
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brandonHow did you get rid of the problem09:11
flaccidchanged to PC-BSD09:11
flaccidcoz i got sick of ubuntu bugs like that09:11
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dragon_I need to know how to tell my system that I have a Wi/Fi card built into machine, and how to use it.  I also need to know how to tell my machine it has USB ports.  The pariferals get powered by the USB, but the OS don't know they are there.09:11
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rob-westopengl09:12
rob-westis installed09:12
rob-westthat was easy09:12
flaccid!wireless > dragon_09:12
flacciduse lsusb to check devices plugged in. verify hardware for usb hubs with lshw09:12
flaccidrob-west: you fixed no glx problem? you prolly forgot to load module glx in xorg.conf ?09:13
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rob-westyea09:14
rob-westi forgot it09:14
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flaccidcool09:14
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rob-westi can use open GL screensavers now09:14
flaccidsweet09:14
rob-westand there puuurrrrrrrty09:14
flaccidnice09:14
rob-westi like the fireworks09:14
flaccidyou should play nexuiz opengl now09:14
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rob-westnah09:15
rob-westdude its only a AGP 2x card09:15
rob-westits old as heck09:15
flaccidshoud be alright09:15
rob-westbut still supported09:15
brandonDam,  i can not figure this out09:15
yapycckyhello everyone, i've kubuntu on a asus lapton with ATI 9700. with compiz it works really slow09:15
yapycckycan anyone help me ?09:15
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loloin principle, kubuntu comes with free drivers of ATI09:19
loloso two possibilities :09:19
rob-westflaccid where can i find that game09:19
flaccidrob-west: install the package nexuiz09:20
lolo1. ATI 9700 is a one the does not support the free driver09:20
lolo(lack of chance)09:20
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lolo2. you are using a Dapper09:20
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loloor before09:20
lolomaybe try Beryl09:21
loloin order to check09:21
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flaccidi would check xorg.conf first09:21
loloon my Feisty, Beryl works with ATI09:21
lolowithout any change in worg.conf09:22
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rob-westi finally got a video card that installed right09:22
loloI personnally never tried Compiz; always on beryl09:23
rob-west!games09:23
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org09:23
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amrushflaccid .. im back with this http://www.pastebin.ca/37678309:24
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nonuda_when i try to add printer from smb,there is an error messages said NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED, i log as anonymous09:27
juliojk09:27
rob-westim gonna download OpenTTD09:27
rob-westhttp://www.openttd.com/09:27
juliol09:27
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flaccidnonuda_: try #samba09:28
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catstronzi09:28
nonuda_ok, thanks09:28
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posingaspopularkubuntu keeps changing the time on me09:30
flaccidamrush: i would remove the package even if force needed09:30
posingaspopularhelp09:30
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posingaspopulari think its ntfs or whatever the clock confg. delaie is09:30
posingaspopularnot ntfs...09:30
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amrushflaccid: aha .. but then how would i get it back ??09:31
flaccidinstall it again09:31
flaccidit wants an earlier package version09:31
rob-westwill sim city 4 run in kubuntu09:31
rob-westor do i need cedega09:31
flaccidfrom the first error. don't know why. probably ubuntu packagers fault09:31
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yapyccky_sorry moky, i've been disconnected09:32
yapyccky_u were telling me smt about ATI cards09:32
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nonuda_in add/remove program, i try to search nvidia, but its greyed, why?09:33
VonFluffyrestricted format?09:33
rob-westflaccid09:33
rob-westdid i mention my video card is 64MB09:33
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yapyccky_if anyone knows how to help me i would be happy09:34
flaccidrob-west: no09:34
flaccidnonuda_: probably need to enable the repos, what is the name of the package09:35
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rob-westit plays Lincity NG09:35
rob-westwow09:35
rob-westim shocked09:35
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flaccidcool09:35
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rob-westofcourse lincity isnt to demanding09:36
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nonuda_NVidia binary X.Org 'legacy' Driver09:36
rob-westi didnt use the legacy driver09:36
rob-westwhat video card is it09:36
nonuda_geForce mx409:37
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firecrotchflaccid: If I set $action to 1 (integer) and one of the cases to case 1:  then it works09:42
firecrotchSo my guess is it's doing weird with the strings09:43
flaccidit looks that way09:43
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flaccidi would do a hash on the two vars being compared and see if they return the same hash09:44
vontuxquick question, lets say I want to download all of the packages required for a specific program (say gnomebaker), is there a way for me to use apt-get to download the .deb files without installing them so I can transfer them to a non-internet connected pc?09:44
posingaspopularwell try it09:44
posingaspopularapt get program09:45
posingaspopulari duno though09:45
DaveQBvontux  -d switch i think yuor after09:45
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DaveQBvontux  apt-get --help and its right there in front of you09:46
vontuxDaveQB: hehe, whoops09:46
vontuxthx09:46
DaveQB:)09:46
DaveQBno worries09:46
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rob-westflaccid that game is like quake09:51
rob-westbut the weapons r cooler in this one09:51
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flaccidyeah09:51
flaccidruns ok?09:51
rob-westyea09:52
flaccidcool09:52
rob-westbut i keep getting killed09:52
flaccidyou playing multiplayer?09:52
rob-westnah09:52
firecrotchflaccid: well, the hashes aren't the same, even though both inputs are strings containing the exact same characters09:52
flaccidthen they are not the same09:52
CompleteShiftle sigh =\.  How do I change resolution in KDE desktop ^^?09:52
flaccidfirecrotch: you could try trimming them09:53
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firecrotchflaccid: found the problem... my Javascript is adding a space character09:54
firecrotchThanks for your help :)09:54
flaccidhehe np09:55
flaccidi knew it was that09:56
flaccidbut wtf is javscript touching it?09:56
flaccidthats non-standard...09:56
firecrotchAJAX09:56
flaccidthe challenge is making AJAX accessible. lets not forget about our disabled friends.09:57
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firecrotchI'm 100% sure that the people who will be using this are not disabled09:59
amrushok thanks flaccid .. all good now :)09:59
firecrotchIt's a grand total of 9 people.09:59
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rob-westflaccid where u fro09:59
rob-westfrom09:59
flaccidfirecrotch: what sort of app is it?09:59
flaccidamrush: npz y009:59
flaccidfirecrotch: ok then the app will be non-extensible.. just as bad :p10:00
flaccidrob-west: i'm in australia10:00
firecrotchflaccid: it's a forum :)10:00
firecrotchIf you couldn't tell from the wording of the script, this part is only for the moderation staff10:01
firecrotchThe rest of the ajax that I use actually does degrade gracefully10:01
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flaccidwell i hope so10:02
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flaccidi dislike opening ajax sites in lynx and getting a blank screen because the whole page is ajaxed10:03
flaccidbut yeah most of shelf ajax frameworks don't care about accessibility10:03
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mngrifhow does tar expect file names when used with the -T option? do the files listed in the text file need to be escaped?10:06
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rob-westhow hard is it to make all the buttons on my mouse work in kubuntu10:07
rob-westits a logitech MX51810:07
flaccidits not that hard10:08
flaccidprolly using xmodmap10:08
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flaccidits on the forums somewhere10:08
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shirwa22hello every110:11
firecrotchhello, shirwa2210:12
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shirwa22i am new linux newbie, i have installed kubuntu on my labtop10:12
shirwa22can someone help wireless problems10:13
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aftertafwhat card you got?10:13
posingaspopularshirwa22: try knetworkmanager10:13
shirwa22broadcom on hp dv2000 labtop10:14
aftertafok. whats the problem? knetworkmanager is good to setup wifi connections10:14
vontuxDaveQB: where would the downloaded .deb files be located after "apt-get -d install"?10:14
shirwa22can i give some1 ssh access on my labtop10:15
aftertafwhats the pb shirwa22 ?10:15
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rob-westsorry bout that10:16
rob-westits raining and its cold out10:16
aftertafvontux:  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/10:16
aftertafrob-west: me 2 :/10:16
vontuxaftertaf: ah, thank you greatly sir :)10:17
aftertaf:)10:17
ondiczwe have very warm winter this year:)10:18
aftertaftrue but we still have a winter, as in it is not nice weather !10:18
aftertaf:)10:18
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rob-west:P10:21
rob-westbrb10:21
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posingaspopularfirecrotch: maybe YOU are rob-west10:25
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firecrotchmaybe I am :p10:26
flaccidi think with broadcom you need ndiswrapper for at least a lot of the cards10:27
posingaspopularrob-west: where do you live if you dont mind me asking10:27
rob-westUSA michigan10:27
hungphamI have a noop question, could anybody help me ?10:27
posingaspopularah see, im in chicago10:27
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posingaspopularso we are probably seeing the same storm10:27
flaccid!ask10:28
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:28
posingaspopularso firecrotch was right10:28
posingaspopularhungpham: we're all n00b sometime. its okay to be a n00b, its not okay to stay that way :)10:28
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flaccidfirecrotch tis funnyname10:28
posingaspopularfirecrotch is a cheater10:28
deathnote!laptop10:28
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org10:28
rob-westwhere is firecrotch from10:28
flaccidi'm to lazy to do whois heh10:28
rob-westoh damn10:28
firecrotchWisconsin10:28
rob-westwere all within a tristate region10:29
hungphamafter backup the ubuntu, I buy the new hdd, then how to have command mode to run the restore command ?10:29
deathnotewhy does my laptop doesn't come up with screensaver after X mins when i didn't plug in power? instead it shows blank screen.. but when power is plugged in, the screensaver will come out?10:29
cntbhi rob-west10:29
deathnotein kubuntu10:29
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firecrotchJust a little bit windy here though10:29
cntbspending hours installing rob-west10:29
rob-westnah10:29
rob-westim don10:29
rob-westdone*10:29
cntbbetter dont burn out rob-west10:29
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cntbhave a rest rob-west10:29
cntb;-)10:30
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posingaspopularfirecrotch: ist hat milwaukee, you're from?10:30
HudsonI'm having a weird problem with KDE, Whenever I click a link to open it from outside firefox10:30
firecrotchposingaspopular:  Yep10:30
Hudsonit opens in konq10:30
rob-westthis cntb is creepy10:30
JucatoHudson: from what app are you clicking the link?10:30
Hudsoneven though FF is set as default browser10:30
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cntb!alternatives | hudson10:30
HudsonJucato it just did it inside Xchat10:30
ubotuhudson: To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.10:30
JucatoHudson: ah no wonder10:31
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flaccidHudson: check file associations in konqueroror config10:31
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cntb!alternatives | hudson10:31
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flaccidHudson: check X settings for default browsers if it has one10:31
JucatoHudson: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser10:31
cntbbig lag here10:31
firecrotchwhois cntb10:31
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cntbbetter /whois cntb firecrotch ;-)10:32
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Hudsonhttp://www.google.com10:32
Ace2016Hi all10:32
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HudsonThanks guys, that fixed it :)10:32
deathnotehow come my laptop screen saver shows a big X10:32
deathnotebut when i click test its ok10:32
cntblike no one knew where to search Hudson ?10:33
Ace2016When your writing an abstract where do you put it? at the start of the article or at the end?10:33
Hudsontrouble rendering 3D?10:33
deathnotebut when the time is up and screen saver show X10:33
firecrotchcntb:  apparently my \ (other way) is not working10:33
flaccidits a kde/ubuntu bug, deathnote10:33
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deathnotewhy i press TEST its ok?10:33
flacciddeathnote: search google/forums for white x screensaver10:33
tauri!mp310:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:33
deathnoteflaccid: oic.........10:33
deathnoteflaccid: any fix yet??10:33
flaccidAce2016: always at start10:33
cntbabout what firecrotch?10:33
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flacciddeathnote: like i said search. there is a fix but doesn't always work. its bad implementation. w/acpi10:33
firecrotchcntb:  what10:34
Hudsoncntb Searching rarely returns any worthwhile results. You have to wade through outdated, orphaned, irrelevant, incorrect solutions to finally find one10:34
Ace2016flaccid: thanks10:34
cntbfunny  konversation robbed ALT-F2  ha10:34
flaccidn10:34
cntbHudson:  new here ?10:35
cntbPM ubotu Hudson10:35
cntblots of soutions in ubotu factoids Hudson10:35
deathnoteok10:35
hungphamI usually install the new Ubuntu, then run the tar command to restore the backup image. How to not install ???10:35
cntb!factoid10:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:35
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flaccid!flaccid10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
flacciddamn10:36
Hudsoncntb yes, most recently I have spent 1 day and 2 installs trying to get dual monitors to work, before that and still unresolved is how to get compiz to work on KDE10:36
deathnotewhat application can i use to monitor my laptop's power? like i wanna use less cpu to save battery?10:36
deathnote!laptop10:36
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org10:36
rob-west!rob-west10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rob-west - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
aftertafcompiz or beryl? what is best?10:36
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cntbHudson: I agree that issue not easy one10:36
Hudsoni prefer compiz10:36
cntbgraphic card Hudson ? edgy ?10:37
Hudsoncntb, thats the only reason I asked what you considered an easy question. I'm sick of searching and coming up with dead ends10:37
cntbHudson: go #ubuntu-effecs10:37
cntbsorry !Hudson: go #ubuntu-effects10:37
Hudsoncntb 2 Geforce 7800GTX's I finally got it working. still no compiz though10:37
andricafebleu10:38
cntbdont despair you should be able to sort link10:38
cntbdual  display already Hudson ?10:38
Hudsoncntb yeah, it was easy once you got the binary drivers installed. I couldnt find a decent guide so I winged it.10:39
Hudsoncntb got lucky10:39
cntbwhy not try beryl10:39
cntb!beryl10:39
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:39
cntbwait Hudson10:40
deathnote!powermanager10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about powermanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
flaccid!find power10:40
ubotuFound: gnome-power-manager, installation-guide-powerpc, kde-guidance-powermanager, powermanagement-interface, powermgmt-base (and 18 others)10:40
Hudsoncntb ?10:40
cntbHudson: http://del.icio.us/tony_behar/Beryl10:41
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cntbmy delicious hudson ;-) be my guest10:41
Hudsonthx10:41
Jucato"<cntb> my delicious hudson" <--- hm.. tasty? :D10:43
Hudsonhehe10:43
flaccid!botsnack10:44
ubotuYum!10:44
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flaccidi think he was getting hungry10:44
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flaccidw0a10:44
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flaccidthats a lot of data to eat in one meal br010:44
cntbhaha jucato ! hudson , may have found already that http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL10:44
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Jucatoflaccid: I have an insatiable appetite for 0's and 1's10:45
HudsonI'm actually more interested in Compiz + NVIDIA binaries (AIGLX)10:45
cntbsee no need to sort google links out all the time Hudson10:45
flaccid1s arnt good for your diet br010:45
HudsonI have followed KDE specific guides and got it installed10:45
JucatoHudson: the /topic in #ubuntu-effects has lots of guides10:45
Hudsonbut I don't know how to start it10:45
deathnote!ati10:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:45
=== cntb wonders who will prevail beryl or compiz , heard suse /novell prefer compiz
HudsonAll guides say to type compiz-tray-icon into terminal to start it10:46
Hudsonbut I always get a error saying bash cant find the program10:46
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flaccidHudson: sudo updatedb && sudo locate -i compiz-tray-icon10:46
cntb!gr lewnidas_10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gr lewnidas_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
flaccidHudson: see if that finds it10:47
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cntb!gr  > lewnidas_10:47
flaccidits prolly not in your path10:47
deathnoteis         Driver      "vesa" correct for ATI radeon card?10:47
aftertafno10:47
deathnotein Xorg.conf10:47
aftertaf!ati10:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:47
flacciddeathnote: correct for any video card that driver10:47
Hudsonokie flaccid I'll try that10:47
deathnoteic i got fglrxinfo and glxinfo | grep direct right10:48
deathnotebut i just see this driver "vesa"10:48
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deathnotei followed the link to install ati !ati10:48
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deathnotecan i manually change it to ATI10:49
flaccidyeah you can deathnote10:49
flaccidto ati or radeon drivers iirc10:50
deathnoteok now i'm stuck at kubuntu load screen10:50
deathnotectrl-alt F1 - 8 can't work10:50
deathnotezz10:50
flaccidsounds typical of usplash/ubuntu10:51
Hudsonflaccid still can't find it10:51
deathnotebooting in recovery to revert back my Xorg.conf10:51
flaccidHudson: then you don't have it10:51
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Hudsonanyone know the KDE equivilant to compiz-tray-icon?10:52
Hudsoner i misspelled that horribly10:52
aftertaf2lol10:52
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flaccid!compiz10:53
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:53
cntbg'night rob-west10:53
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Hudsonthanks Flaccid this is a new guide10:54
flaccidi don't see a ref to that binary there10:54
flaccidyeah10:54
flaccidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz10:54
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flaccidhopefully that one is suffice10:55
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kruno_Hello everyone! Could someone tell me what soft. to use for ripping DVDs or should i just use DVDdecrypter under wine?10:55
aftertaf2acidrip10:55
aftertaf2or k9copy10:55
kruno_thank you!10:55
deathnotexorg-driver-fglrx <-- contains ati drivers and will update my xorg.conf driver into ati instead of vesa?10:55
musacan some1 help me with my wireless card10:56
posingaspopular!wireless10:56
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:56
ondiczi need to get list of available irc servers automatically, is it possible in  Konversation?10:56
musathank u10:56
flaccid!ati > deathnote10:56
posingaspopularnp, check back if you have more problems10:57
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ondiczin other irc apps i saw that10:57
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musai run lspci, is this my wireless card: 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)10:58
cntbis there #openoffice on freenode ? trying10:58
cntbnope10:59
Jucato!openoffice10:59
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org10:59
Jucatocntb: ^^^10:59
OliverKruegerHas anybody managed to get subclipse under eclipse3.2 under edgy eft running?10:59
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cntbtyvm Jucato10:59
cntb[11:59]  [470]  #users.openoffice.org #openoffice.org Forwarding to another channel Jucato11:00
Jucatoheh :)11:00
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eilkercan someone correct it pls ?? sudo dpkg reconfigure-- xserver-xorg11:01
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cntbsudo dpkg reconfigure  xserver-xorg will be the right one eilker11:02
cntbsorry  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg will be the right one eilker11:02
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Jucato!xconfig11:03
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes11:03
deathnoteapparantly there is 2 drivers line in xorg.conf11:03
eilkeroh now ok, thanx11:03
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deathnoteone is driver "fglrx"11:03
deathnoteanother is driver "vesa"11:03
deathnoteboth under section device11:04
deathnotebut different parts11:04
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deathnoteshd i remove the vesa>?11:05
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aftertafput a # in front11:08
aftertafthat way is broken you can vim it in console11:08
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posingaspopularim trying to do sudo aptititude get firefox. what's the REAL command11:21
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posingaspopularand... x just crashed11:21
posingaspopularhelp?11:21
ForgeAusthen uncrash it! (kidding...) did it give you an error message?11:21
posingaspopularwell not X, the taskbar at the bottom disappeared11:22
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ForgeAuskicker?11:22
posingaspopular... kicker...?11:22
JucatoAlt+F2, "kicker"11:22
JucatoKicker, the KDE Panel11:22
posingaspopularahhh11:22
ForgeAusanalogous to windows XP's taskbar11:22
posingaspopularyay we're BACK!11:22
Jucatothe real command is "sudo aptitude install firefox", btw11:22
posingaspopularthanks Jucato11:22
posingaspopularadmiral_chicago told me yesterday11:23
posingaspopularbut i forget these things11:23
Jucatoaptitude and apt-get mostly hae the same commands... most of the time11:23
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posingaspopularright but i know it wasn't aptitude-get install11:23
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posingaspopularthanks fx is up and runnign now11:25
posingaspopulari was having crazy crash issues with it yesterday11:25
waylandbillUnfortunately, aptitude doesn't have super cow powers or it'd just know and do the correct command for you. :-)11:27
ForgeAusI still have a few crash issues but nothing to serious11:27
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flaccidwb11:29
posingaspopularwaylandbill: what does that even MEAN11:29
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waylandbillposingaspopular: it's an easter egg11:31
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waylandbillposingaspopular: enter a bad command to aptitude and it will telling that it doesn't have super cow powers.11:32
posingaspopularoh hahahaha ubuntu does that all the time to me11:32
posingaspopularone time it told me something about a chicken11:32
posingaspopulari thought it was me being a n00blet11:32
waylandbillthere is another egg that if you give it the command it will show an ascii cow as well11:33
posingaspopularalthough thas probably also true11:33
posingaspopularwhere does the 'egg' part come from?11:33
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waylandbilleaster egg. It's hidden things that programmers put in11:34
waylandbillposingaspopular: http://www.eeggs.com/items/43172.html11:34
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posingaspopularah thanks. im not a programmer so i woudn't know11:35
posingaspopularthats awesome though11:36
waylandbilloh. and it is apt-get that shows the cow. aptitude shows the elephant eaten by the snake11:36
waylandbillapt-get moo   <-- that will show a cow.11:36
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VonFluffyapt-get install cowsay11:37
posingaspopularhe, awesome11:37
posingaspopularman I need to finish this essay about Samuel L. Jackson11:38
posingaspopularso far I have 1/2 a page of "Samuel L. Jackson is the coolest. he likes violence"11:38
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waylandbillVonFluffy: thanks for the cowsay tip. I like it. :-)11:38
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vontuxhas anyone had trouble getting gnome baker to burn dvds?11:53
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vontuxI essentially have the problem shown here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=220960711:54
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MarcoPauhey there, I wanted to know how I can share a partition in my LAN12:00
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waylandbillMarcoPau: NFS, Samba, Sshd. Depends on the target which will use the share.12:01
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waylandbillis there a keyboard shortcut to switch desktops (like to desktop 2) ?12:04
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hybridstormDoes anyone know if their is a better firefox icon for the taskbar? mine now looks pretty rough compared to the other icons12:04
waylandbillhybridstorm: any xpm icon will do. you can find some on the web.12:05
flaccidwaylandbill: see your settings in kcontrol - keyboard shortcuts12:05
flaccidsee if a larger res xpm is on your system i think there is12:05
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hybridstormthanks flaccid12:06
waylandbillflaccid: ok. I see where to set the shortcut12:06
flaccidcool12:06
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MarcoPauwaylandbill: I opened samba... all I need is enable directory sharing?12:09
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[EG] Taurihi12:09
[EG] Tauri!mp3 player12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
[EG] Tauriwhats a good mp3 player?12:10
posingaspopular[EG] Tauri: in terms of...12:10
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waylandbillgood is all relative, but I like amaroK12:10
[EG] Taurium... listening to music12:10
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flaccidasound is good12:11
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flaccidnot sure if it can do mp3 but :p12:11
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[EG] Tauriwell i have XMMS12:11
[EG] Tauriit looks good12:11
[EG] Taurijust... being picky12:11
flaccidamarok kills but12:11
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flaccidbut its still handy12:11
ErunnoIsn't XMMS dead upstream ?12:11
flaccidprobably12:12
waylandbillMarcoPau: you have to define the directory to share and you also have to add at least one user to samba12:12
[EG] Taurium... huh?12:12
MarcoPauwaylandbill: ok, then the other clients in the lan will see the directory?12:12
waylandbillamarok and an ipod are like heaven together. :-)12:12
[EG] Tauriech... ipod12:12
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[EG] Taurihow do i update the shared folders i see in my network?12:13
Erunnowaylandbill is a traitor to the open source cause. iPod can't play vorbis/flac files :P12:13
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waylandbillMarcoPau: they should, yes. It make take time for it to broadcast so you may need to use \\machine\share on the windows machine12:13
waylandbillErunno: It will when the Ipod Linux project matures. :-P12:13
flaccidbut ipod can sell millions....12:14
flaccidits a nice trade off12:14
MarcoPauwaylandbill: what would that \\machine\share be?12:14
[EG] Tauriwrarg... xmms wont play my mp3's12:15
ErunnoMarcoPau: You can set up Samba as a master domain browser for the windows clients.12:15
waylandbillstart..run.. \\machine_name\share_name  (machine name could be an ip address or the defined name samba calls your system)12:15
waylandbill!mp312:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:15
waylandbillMarcoPau: netbios name. That's what I was trying to pull out of my brain's database. :)12:16
[EG] Tauri... amaroK crashes when i try to play music...12:16
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MarcoPauErunno: don't get you... how would I do that? I enabled that sharing and added the user, but windows won't see the directory12:18
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waylandbillMarcoPau: did you try entering the URI like I said?12:22
ErunnoMarcoPau: : http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/NetworkBrowsing.html#remsmb12:22
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reinholdI have removed the kde metapackage (as I compile kdepim myself for development), but now apt-get always tells me that lots of kde packages can be auto-removed. How can I mark installed packages as non-autoremove (ie. as manually installed)? I searched google, but couldn't find anything.12:26
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flaccidreinhold: as far as i know12:30
flaccidyou don't need to12:30
flaccidautoremove should be old ones12:30
flaccidi could be totally wrong but12:30
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reinholdflaccid: No, apt-get suggests to remove kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, etc. They were dependencies of the kde metapackage (which was removed when I removed kdepim)12:30
flaccidwell thats weird12:31
flaccidcoz they are not strictly deps as its a meta package so removal should have no effect12:31
flaccidcould be wrong again but12:31
benjoer12hi everybody12:31
benjoer12i wanna ask something12:32
benjoer12about kubuntu12:32
benjoer12especially about compiling kernel12:32
posingaspopular!ask12:32
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:32
benjoer12ooow12:32
benjoer12thats my question12:32
flaccidhowever i could be wrong as packages.ubuntu says this "It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired."12:32
posingaspopularbenjoer12: what about compling kernels?12:32
flaccidwhich startles me and contradicts upgrade docos but meh12:33
ziceroim looking for xmllint for kubuntu .. can i find it on any repository ? or is there any kde application i could use to validate some home-grown xml  ?!12:33
reinholdflaccid: apt-get does not try to remove them, but suggests to auto-remove them (using the --autoremove switch)12:33
reinholdflaccid:12:33
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benjoer12what packages are needed for compiling kernel in kubuntu12:33
reinholdflaccid: anyway, I now found the apt-mark util to mark packages as manually installed.12:33
posingaspopular!compile12:33
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:33
flaccidzicero: a web browser12:33
flaccidreinhold: well you probably can't remove the meta package12:33
flaccidi would install it again12:33
zicero:)12:33
flacciddue to what it says: It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired.12:33
benjoer12thx 4 ubotu12:34
flaccidreinhold: is this edgy?12:34
reinholdflaccid: Nope, I can't, as that will reinstall kdepim (which I need to compile from the latest develoment branch, so I'll get compatibility problems)12:34
zicerook .. let me put it this way: id like to install xmllint then ... my repositorys (standard) dont have .. any chances i can find it somewhere ?!12:34
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reinholdflaccid: Nope, feisty, but it was the same in edgy12:34
flaccidreinhold: ah thats it. its the new apt. i'm a dapper user to which it doesn't do that.12:35
reinholdflaccid: Ah, okay. Now apt-get has a feature to detect dependency packages that were only installed as dependencies of another. If you remove that package, all dependencies that are not required by any other manually installed package are suggested to be auto-removed.12:36
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reinholdflaccid: So I just needed a way to mark kdemultimedia etc. as manually installed.12:36
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flaccidreinhold: sounds good. pity we werent told and there is no doco on it...12:37
flaccidwith like 3-4 release of ubuntu on the plate soon, its going to get worse12:37
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Erunnoreinhold: If you start aptitude without parameters it will open a gui (sort of). There's a option to mark packages as manually installed12:39
flaccidis that ncurses?12:40
reinholdErunno: I now also found the apt-mark util, which does exactly what I want.12:41
Erunnoreinhold: kk :)12:41
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eilkeri wanna make a video file of my desktop, by using vlc media player, could some help me pls ?12:47
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eilker!xvidcap12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
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yamanhi every one what is better to download on the ubuntu the kde or the kubuntu-desktop what could give me more programs??? any help12:57
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waylandbillyaman: both use same repo, so you can choose from same packages on either12:59
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yamanwaylandbill: thnx01:01
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geir_Hi. I'm new to kubuntu and have a simple question.... How do I install the file "kaffeine-0.8.3.tar.bz2"01:03
eilkerno need to compressed file, just use adept01:04
Erunnogeir_: That's probably the source code.01:04
eilkeror type in console , sudo apt-get install kaffeine01:04
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Erunnogeir_: You'll have to compile it if you want to use it. I'd suggest to use the version in the repos unless there's a critical feature you need in this version.01:05
geir_ok. I have kaffeine 0.8.2 installed, and want to upgrade. So sudo apt-get install kaffeine-0.8.3.tar.bz2 does it, and then I can install/upgrade it from Adept...??01:06
eilkerjust upgrade from adept,01:07
Erunnoeilker: 0.8.3 isn't in the edgy repos afaik.01:07
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geir_Adept has only 0.8.2....01:08
eilkererunno ohh sorry01:08
eilker!make01:08
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:08
Erunnogeir_: Unpack the file with tar xvzf, run configure, make, and then sudo make install01:08
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waylandbillmust be 0.8.3 has an exciting cool new feature.01:09
geir_Ubotu. Thanks I'll read here... :-)01:09
Erunnowaylandbill: Or it's just the version madness ;-)01:09
waylandbillErunno: it's still got the new version smell I bet.01:10
ErunnoReminds me...where can I complain about the neglect of the backport repos ?01:11
geir_"version madness"... Yes, and learning how to do it ;-)01:12
Erunnogeir_: It's a mindset I fully understand, that's why I was on Gentoo's testing branch for months :-P01:13
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ErunnoDoes KDevelop (or Kate) support code-completion for qt4 ?01:14
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JucatoErunno: probably the latest KDevelop version does (3.4 I think)01:15
eilker!xine01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
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fuelrecently i upgraded to 2.6.17-11 kernel ...... its slower than previous version01:17
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Tm_Tfuel: How you measured?01:17
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[EG] Tauriwhats the command to check the hdd space?01:17
fuelwell its not right to blame on the version........ but my applications are running slower01:18
Erunno[EG] Tauri: df01:18
Zyrkondf -h01:18
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fueli think its df01:18
[EG] Taurithx01:18
Tm_T[EG] Tauri: df as "disk free"01:18
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fuelor du -h if you want to see the size of the files inside directory01:18
Zyrkon[EG] Tauri, use "-h" for "human readable" *g*01:18
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Jucato!filelight01:19
ubotufilelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB01:19
fuelhave you guys used krandr ?01:19
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cox377can anyone tell me how to mount a windows share to my kubuntu box?01:20
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eilkeri wanna make a video file of my desktop, could some help me pls ?01:20
fueltry wink01:20
fuelits free....01:20
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eilkermke ?01:21
eilkerme* ?01:21
fuelyes01:21
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fueleilker :http://www.debugmode.com/wink/01:22
fuelhope so this helps01:22
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eilkerlet me try, tahnx01:22
Erunno!mount | cox37701:23
ubotucox377: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:23
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Erunnocox377: That wasn't very helpful :-P01:23
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cox377Erunno: lol basically i just want to mount a network share01:24
Jucato!nfs01:24
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:24
Erunnocox377: You can access a windows share via the smb io-slave in Konqueror01:25
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fueltype smb:/01:25
fuelbut is there any good articles explaining about kio-slaves ?01:26
cox377Erunno: thing is01:26
fuelwikipedia has nothing about it :(01:26
cox377Erunno: i want to use armork for a multimedia network share01:26
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fuelyou mean amarok ? :P01:27
cox377fuel: lol01:27
cox377fuel: so whats the recommendations01:27
fueltoo bad i dont know about it ....01:27
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fuelbut you can always ask google!01:28
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guidenwhy is it so hard to change a theme?01:28
Erunnocox377: Just so that I understand the situation correclty: You have a windows share full of illeg...honestly purchased music and want to access it with amarok ?01:28
fuel:))01:28
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cox377Erunno: ' multimedia ' or sorts01:29
cox377Erunno: ;)01:29
waylandbillhe ripped them from his personal collection I'm sure.01:29
cox377Erunno: but basically yet01:29
cox377yes*01:29
Jucatoguiden: what theme?01:29
fuelguiden : what theme ?01:29
fuelJucato: ;)01:29
fuelnice timing01:29
cox377Erunno: any ideas on how i move forward?01:30
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Jucato:P01:30
guidenI mean, isn't there a program that downloads theme quick and easy like in gnome?01:30
Jucatofuel: old article: http://osdir.com/Article2159.phtml01:30
waylandbillcox377: you can open media and then use an smb:// url. it should be seamless networking01:30
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Jucatoguiden: next question, what kind of theme01:30
Jucatooh bah!01:31
Jucato!changethemes | guiden01:31
ubotuguiden: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu01:31
Erunnocox377: Hold on, I'm looking at Amarok atm. I don't use it very often.01:31
Jucatothere... read the whole thing :)01:31
cox377waylandbill: unfortunatly amarok just crashes if i do that01:31
guiden:)01:31
cox377Erunno: much appreciated01:31
fuelor you could try vlc01:32
waylandbillcox377: file a bug report about it.01:32
fuel!vlc01:32
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs01:32
Erunnocox377: You can mount windows share in your Linux tree with the smbclient command, I just forgot how. It's been about 2 years since I seriously worked with Samba.01:32
fuelwhy was kcontrol removed from kmenu ?01:32
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posingaspopularhey Jucato im just wondering, do you ever sleep?01:33
Jucatofuel: System Settings.01:33
Jucatoposingaspopular: yes. but probably not at the same time as you01:33
fuelJucato :yeah but it does not lead to kcontrol which has more options etcc.01:33
cox377Jucato: lol01:33
cox377Erunno: lol ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm?01:33
posingaspopularyou're in this room when I wake up and go to sleep...01:33
Jucatofuel: not really. aside from a few bugs, System Settings has the exact same stuff as KControl01:34
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Erunnocox377: Or not. I'm confused.01:34
waylandbillcox377: you can also mount samba shares permanently using your fstab01:34
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fuelhmmm but system settings!=kcontrol :P01:34
cox377waylandbill: any idea on the command01:35
cox377:P01:35
Erunnocox377: Listen to waylandbill, he is strong in the Linux.01:35
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Jucatofuel: yes, the interface is not the same. but system settings uses the same kcontrol modules01:35
Jucatofuel: kcontrol itself is just a container. nothing more01:35
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fuelcox377: there seems to be some settings for network share in system settinga01:35
fuelyeah01:35
cox377Erunno: ok.. shall do.. let just home waylandbill has the time01:35
fuela collection of services.....01:35
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waylandbillcox377: the command is simply mount, after you set it up. I'll looking for the doc right now01:36
cox377waylandbill: many thanks01:36
Erunnocox377: An alternative I just dug up: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Samba01:37
Jucatofuel: a collection of kcm (kcontrol modules)01:37
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Erunnocox377: Sounds like it describes what you are looking for.01:37
waylandbillcox377: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently01:37
cox377Erunno: looks now many thanjs : )01:38
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cox377waylandbill: looking now many thanks : )01:38
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cntbNotes for Wink on Linux:01:40
cntb      Wink requires GTK 2.4 or higher.01:40
cntbwhat is GTK2.4?01:40
Tm_T!gtk01:40
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI01:40
guidenwhat does full upgrade do in adept?01:40
fuelguiden: it upgrades fully :P01:41
Jucatoguiden: equivalent to apt-get dist-upgrade01:41
waylandbilllets say I use 'date'... how can I get that but a week ago?01:41
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guidendoes it remove packages that aren't used?01:42
Jucatonope01:42
fuelno only upgrades!!!01:42
guidenok :)01:42
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Jucatodist-upgrade = upgrades installed packages, installs new packages to meet new dependencies of packages to be upgraded, removes packages that will conflict with the ones previously mentioned01:42
guidenok01:43
fueli tried installing xubuntu ....... it crashed right away!01:43
fueli meant xubuntu-desktop01:43
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Jucatofuel: problem on your end definitely...01:44
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cntbdid you  sudo apt-get-install xubuntu-desktop fuel ?01:44
fuelyep installed the same way01:44
cntb* did you  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop fuel ?01:44
cox377waylandbill: i run this command01:44
cox377sudo mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword01:44
fuelthe problem is the desktop did not load.....just the wall paper..... seems to be a problem with gtk engine .01:44
cox377waylandbill: and nothing happens it just gives me the options, i'm obviously adding the right detauls01:44
cox377details01:44
cntbcrashed meaning X fuel ?01:44
fueland i tried googling "reset xubutu config " etc.....01:45
fuelX did not crash01:45
fuelxubuntu crashed!01:45
fueland #xubuntu channel is dead!!!01:45
fuelno one is alive there01:45
fuel;)01:45
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waylandbillcox377: gives you the options? like the usage details you mean?01:46
cntbCTRL-ALT-F1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start fuel01:46
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cox377waylandbill:01:46
cox377Usage: mount -V                 : print version01:46
cox377       mount -h                 : print this help01:46
cntbxubuntu is not poular enough01:46
cox377       mount                    : list mounted filesystems01:46
cox377       mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels01:47
fuelor better not stable enough01:47
cox377So far the informational part. Next the mounting.01:47
cox377The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.01:47
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cox377Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.01:47
cox377       mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab01:47
cox377       mount device             : mount device at the known place01:47
cox377       mount directory          : mount known device here01:47
cox377       mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command01:47
posingaspopular!enter01:47
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:47
cox377Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts01:47
posingaspopular!pastebin01:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:47
cox377a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.01:47
cox377One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:01:47
cox377       mount --bind olddir newdir01:47
cox377or move a subtree:01:47
cox377       mount --move olddir newdir01:47
cox377A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,01:47
cox377or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .01:47
cox377Other options: [-nfFrsvw]  [-o options]  [-p passwdfd] .01:47
cox377For many more details, say  man 8 mount .01:47
cntbspeaking of mount -l how do I label en ext2 volume ?01:48
waylandbillI think you need to use smbmount01:48
cox377waylandbill: just trying that and see to be getting further01:48
cox377appologise for the large paste01:49
waylandbillfigured out last week for date. Wasn't aware that "1 week ago" is a date specification. Guess you learn something new everyday.01:49
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guidenWhen will Flash Player releases be available for other platforms, including devices?01:50
guidenAdobe does not comment specifically on future releases.01:50
guiden***holes :)01:51
waylandbillthey will go to any platform they see as profitable.01:52
cox377waylandbill: i'm getting this error01:52
cox377590: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)01:52
cox377SMB connection failed01:52
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waylandbillcox377: sounds like the other end rejected you. :)01:53
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cox377waylandbill: lol01:54
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waylandbillcox377: i don't know if it will help, but you could add option "debug=x" where x is the number of verbosity01:56
waylandbillcox377: man page recommends starting with 4.01:56
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cox377waylandbill: where it says -o?01:57
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waylandbillput it after the credentials01:58
waylandbillusername=me,password=secret,debug=401:58
waylandbillit may give better info on why you were rejected. but then again... it may not.01:59
cox377waylandbill: what a donkey, i had the wrong IP01:59
waylandbill:)01:59
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cox377waylandbill: right.. eveything says ok,02:00
cox377but then it says02:00
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cox377waylandbill: namecache_shutdown: Couldn't close namecache on top of gencache.02:00
cox377waylandbill: but it appears to have mounted itself02:01
cox377: )02:01
cox377waylandbill: nice one mate02:01
waylandbillthat may just be a warning02:01
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cox377waylandbill: just one more thing lol.. after mounting i added  this line into fstab02:03
cox377/servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs username=windowsuserename,password=windowspassword 0 002:03
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cox377it then opens a window saying do you want to open this mounted drive, then says "permission denied"02:04
sorush20Hi I keep getting the message unable to capture image in camorama02:04
sorush20anyideas why?02:04
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sorush20I have a logitech webcam02:05
waylandbillcox377: you need to set options for default masks.02:05
waylandbillcox377: otherwise only root will be able to access the mounted share.02:06
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cox377waylandbill: I'm really sorry mate, how do i go about doing that?02:08
waylandbillone sec02:08
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cox377waylandbill: looks like this maybe it02:09
cox377/servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs credentials=/home/myhomedirectory/.smbpasswd,uid=mylinuxusername,gid=mylinuxgroupname 0 002:09
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guidenwhy is torrents so slow?02:12
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flacciddon't know guiden ask your peers02:13
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cox377flaccid: lol02:13
cox377guiden: try a linux distro and see if it maxes out02:14
PhinnFortcan i just download packages needed for installing, with aptitude/apt-get?02:14
PhinnFortlike emerge --fetchonly on gentoo?02:14
Jucato??02:14
Jucatoah -d02:14
PhinnFortah, nice02:15
waylandbillyou get faster torrents as your share ratio goes up.02:15
Jucatouse the -d switch02:15
PhinnFortwaylandbill: where?02:15
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jagoneswenas02:17
waylandbillPhinnFort: /var/cache/apt/archives02:17
PhinnFortwaylandbill: that's where .deb's are stored before installing, isn't it?02:18
waylandbillPhinnFort: correct02:18
PhinnForthow can i find the color resolution on my screen?02:18
PhinnFortKolourpaint complains02:18
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waylandbillkcontrol, display02:19
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PhinnForti think it crashes here02:19
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PhinnFortkcontrol looks darn ugly now, in the middle of feisty upgrade..;)02:20
crazy_busCan anyone help me use the ktorrent que manager.  I put more important files at the top but the file at the bottom of the list stole all the bandwidth.  What do I do?02:20
PhinnFortcrazy_bus: the queue manager doesn't prioritize files, afaik02:21
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PhinnFortcrazy_bus: download them one at a time, if you need to prioritize02:21
crazy_buswhat does it do?02:21
PhinnFortit decides which order the files should download in02:21
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PhinnForti have currently capped it at two downloads at a time, and the qm decides which two to download02:22
PhinnFortwaylandbill: the kcontrol module doesn't say anything about how many colours02:22
crazy_busso if I set maximum downloads for say 3.  It will only download the top 3 que manager files first?02:22
PhinnFortyeah02:23
waylandbillPhinnFort: what is kolourpaint complaining about not enough colors?02:23
PhinnFortwaylandbill: when i open an image with truecolors (color jpeg) it complains02:23
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ContrastWhat's up, everyone?02:23
waylandbillabout not enough colors or wrong color palette or something else?02:24
PhinnFortwaylandbill: "The image "448b5b6726266_s.jpg" may have more colours than the current screen mode. In order to display it, some colours may be changed. Try increasing your screen depth to at least 24bpp."02:24
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cox377waylandbill: in order to run the command to allow it to have rw by other users u need to create a credential file first called .smbpasswd02:24
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cox377waylandbill: i've created tht file then run this command02:24
cox377cd > .smbpasswd chmod 600 .smbpasswd echo username=mywindowsusername >> .smbpasswd echo password=mywindowspassword >> .smbpasswd02:25
cox377but i gt tis error02:25
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cox377waylandbill: bash: cd: chmod: No such file or directory02:25
waylandbillPhinnFort: you could change in the xorg.conf to set DefaultDepth 24 (or 32)02:26
waylandbillassuming your hardware supports it02:26
PhinnFortit's an radeon 9800XT02:26
PhinnFort*a02:26
waylandbillI meant the monitor, but sure you should be able to support it02:26
PhinnFortyeah02:27
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guidenWhy isn't there a qt based direct connect client in the repositories?02:27
PhinnFortheh, i just found the error, it was set to 16, after copying the xorg.conf from knoppix to get beryl running smooth;)02:27
ContrastDoes anyone know of a program that will look at a given directory and list the files it contains that most closely add up to a certain size? (e.g., I have 20 files of varying sizes in a directory. They all add up to 9 GB, and I want to not waste any space on the discs so I can get them all onto 2 DVD's.)02:27
PhinnFortguiden:02:27
PhinnFortguiden: there is02:27
PhinnFort!valknut02:27
ubotuvalknut: graphical client for Direct Connect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 863 kB, installed size 3040 kB02:27
PhinnFort!valknut | guiden02:27
ubotuguiden: please see above02:27
ErunnoContrast: Backpack !02:28
PhinnFort!backpack02:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backpack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:28
ErunnoIt's not a program, sorry. Just a problem ;-)02:28
Contrast?02:28
PhinnFortbut i remember reading about such a program02:29
n8k99Contrast: you can use the file size view in konqueror02:29
PhinnForti remember someone created a program for exactly that problem, with packing files on a cd02:29
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waylandbillyou almost want to tar them limiting at size or something.02:30
PhinnForti think it was a simple bash script02:30
n8k99Contrast: in Konqueror go to the directory which has all the files you want02:30
n8k99then View > View mode > File size view02:31
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ErunnoContrast: Sorry, forget about it. It's a problem I know as backpack.02:31
guidenphinnfort, valknut seems old..02:31
PhinnFortguiden: i've used it, it's pretty decent02:31
n8k99that will give you a graphical picture of the size, Contrast02:31
PhinnFortwe used to have an internal dc network02:31
Contrastn8k99, I'm looking at them in file size view, but I'm not really clear on how that solves the problem?02:31
ContrastErunno, no problem. Thanks anyway.02:32
n8k99then you can use your selection rectangle to pick up the amount you want02:32
ContrastThink it might be on SF?02:32
n8k99copy them into another directory then burn that directory02:33
PhinnFortguiden: http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~csucda/valknut.html02:33
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Contrastn8k99, thanks. I'll try that.02:33
n8k99Contrast: hope it works!02:34
ContrastI'm guessing with just a little bit of knowledge, it wouldn't be hard to write a script that does it automatically, no?02:34
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[EG] Taurihey what are some cool games for linux?02:34
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PhinnFortno02:34
PhinnFort[EG] Tauri: nexuiz02:34
n8k99Contrast: no it wouldn't, as long as you have that knowledge :)02:34
PhinnFortContrast: you could go beg in #bash02:34
[EG] Taurii think i have that 102:34
PhinnFort;)02:34
PhinnFortzmoto02:35
PhinnFort*xmoto02:35
PhinnFortvega strike02:35
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ContrastCool, thanks for the help, everyone.02:35
n8k99[EG] Tauri: i like tuxracer02:35
PhinnFortglest02:35
[EG] Tauriany rts games?02:35
PhinnFortppracer is better02:35
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PhinnFortppracer is built in tuxracer, only with loads of patches and stuff02:35
[EG] Tauri!rts02:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:35
[EG] Taurilol02:35
PhinnFort[EG] Tauri: glest is an rts02:36
[EG] Tauri!glest02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
carl__is there a program to control the cpu-fan?02:36
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PhinnFort[EG] Tauri: http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~csucda/valknut.html02:36
PhinnFort[EG] Tauri: i had it on gentoo, it's really cool02:36
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PhinnFortalmost Warcraft 3-style02:37
ErunnoContrast: Writing such a program isn't very hard, but it's an np complete algorithm, meaning it has the n! complexity.02:38
Erunno*np complete problem02:38
[EG] Taurihow would i install glest?02:39
PhinnFort[EG] Tauri: look at their website for .debs02:39
[EG] Taurik02:39
[EG] Taurii found the installer for windows...02:39
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ErunnoContrast: Well, it means that it will take a LONG time to solve this problem if you use this algorithm on many files ;-)02:39
PhinnFortErunno: he has 20ish files02:40
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ErunnoPhinnFort: 20 files sound feasable.02:41
BluesKajHowdy All :)02:41
PhinnFort[EG] Tauri: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.ubuntugames.org/Glest&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dglest%2Bubuntu%26hl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-802:41
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cox377waylandbill: did u manage to find anything on rw access on a mounted share from a non-root users?02:43
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_Daisuke_Ido_this Glest intrigues me...02:44
waylandbillcox377: you need to set the mask in the fstab. I don't have an example though. should find easily with google.02:45
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dillingerhi, does anyone knows about a good free software that would allow me to cut a part of 10 minutes in a divx file ???  thanks02:56
PhinnFortyeah02:57
PhinnFortbut the name escapes me02:57
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PhinnFortyou could always use cinelerra or kdenlive or something, though02:57
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PhinnFortor lives or kino02:58
jottdillinger: take a look at avidemux02:58
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dillingerPhinnFort: ok ill give kdenlive a try02:58
dillingerjott: Ok thx02:58
BluesKajkino or avdemux should do it , dillinger02:58
dillingerOk Thx a lot all02:58
dillingerill download them all and try them02:58
guidenAti problem, I'm following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html and when I get this on my console02:59
guidenguiden@thelab:~$ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx02:59
guidenNot loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:59
BluesKajbur once ya do that, try tovid for authoring and burning afterward02:59
guiden-when03:00
BluesKajguiden:  looking for DRI with ATI ?03:00
guidenI just want the graphic card to work as it suppose to do03:00
guidenMAXIMUM USE03:01
BluesKajguiden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b03:02
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guidenI've done that before but why isn't the guide in kubuntu good enoughf?03:03
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BluesKajwell it is in a sense, it's part of the Ubuntu community documentation...that good 'nuff for me :)03:05
amsmith42Is there a keyboard shortcut to lock the KDE desktop?03:07
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MuJamsmith42: ctrl-alt-l03:09
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guidenwhat happens if I press ctrl alt del?03:12
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ForgeAusit will possibly shut your computer down03:12
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ForgeAus(or logout/offer a logout screen?... )03:13
BluesKajnope03:13
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ForgeAusgenerally ctrl alt delete in most OS's is to exit...03:13
BluesKajctrl alt backspace will tho03:13
Jucatomost OS's?03:13
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ubuntuhi there03:13
Tm_Tctrl-alt-del should shut pc down/restart, that's atleast what it does here.03:14
ForgeAuswell generally *nix and Windows, that covers the majority of OS's doesn't it?03:14
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=== Jucato not sure about other DE's though
ubuntui am new here, is that just an englisch chat??03:15
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guideneh03:15
Tm_Tubuntu: Yes, but there's channels for other languages too.03:15
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ubuntuok, fine03:15
guiden!help03:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:15
ubuntuah, i see....03:16
guiden!brain03:16
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Jucato!topic03:16
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic03:16
Tm_TForgeAus: Hmm, nope, don't forget BeOS and OS/2 and others.03:16
Jucatohm...03:16
ubuntuthat is a channel for faq, isn't t??03:16
ubuntuit?03:16
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Tm_Tubuntu: no channels for faq, but websites are on topic.03:17
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Jucatoubuntu: this is the KDE English Support Channel03:17
ForgeAusI'm not forgetting os's trust me03:17
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ForgeAusbut then *nix covers a broad range of operating systems...03:17
BluesKajBSD, the closest thing to the original pure OS ...or so their porponents tell me :)03:17
ForgeAus(from Linux and its various distro's to Unix, to BSD even MacOSX)03:17
pinkisntwellhey guys... i just dled the kubuntu 6.10 iso and booted off of it, installed the nvidia drivers and killed X to restart KDE and i get a black screen with nothing happening... any suggestions?03:17
ForgeAuspink sounds like trouble03:18
ubuntu...and wo are you??03:18
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BluesKajForge , Unix came first, BSD is aslight derivative03:18
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ForgeAusprobably something in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???03:18
ubuntu...and who are you??03:18
Jucatopinkisntwell: you need to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your kernel version03:18
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ForgeAusum how to answer who is who?....03:19
Tm_Tubuntu: Sorry, we usually don't have casual chatting here (too much noise)03:19
guidenmy computer freezes spontaniously after I installed the ati driver.03:19
pinkisntwellJucato: what does that do?03:19
ForgeAusBlues I wasn't speaking chronologically or heirarchically or anything just a list... in no particular order03:19
Tm_T!de | ubuntu03:19
ubotuubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:19
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Jucatopinkisntwell: it solves your nvidia problem03:19
ForgeAusthey all imho fall under the heading of *nix03:19
BluesKajok ForgeAus , NP :)03:19
Jucatopinkisntwell: the nvidia driver needs the restricted modules for the kernel in order to work03:20
ubuntuok, thanks so far.....now i just try stand in here.03:20
pinkisntwellJucato: why isn't that in the faq?03:20
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Jucatopinkisntwell: which FAQ?03:20
pinkisntwellubuntuguide.org03:20
ubuntubest wishes too you.....and may be we will see again.....bye....03:20
Jucatopinkisntwell: I don't know. ubuntuguide is a 3rd party site03:20
Jucatobetter ask the author why.03:21
Jucato!nvidia | pinkisntwell03:21
ubotupinkisntwell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:21
Jucatopinkisntwell: that guide does say so ^^^03:21
Tm_TJucato: Damn you, I was one second away from that.03:21
Jucato!language | Tm_T03:21
ForgeAuslol Tm_T03:21
ubotuTm_T: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:21
Jucato:P03:21
=== Tm_T hopes you get older and slower
ForgeAushmmm language bots03:22
Tm_TAlso I go and hit my head to wall for a moment. ->03:22
=== Jucato saves the wall from Tm_T
waylandbill:)03:22
waylandbillpoor wall.03:22
pinkisntwellok thanks guys, i will try it03:23
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ForgeAusJucato still no idea how to reinstate my X? I can live with loging into TTY and just typing startX thats not hard03:23
neutralossyou want x to start automatically?03:23
JucatoForgeAus: sorry, nope...03:23
ForgeAusI mean at least that works03:24
ForgeAusneutral it *should* yeah03:24
ErunnoAre their any benefits for from the binary drivers for a user who neither uses beryl/compiz nor any other 3D application ?03:24
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neutralossare you using a session manager?03:24
ForgeAusJucato is there a way to drop out of X from in KDM?03:24
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ForgeAusNeutral you mean KDM?03:24
waylandbillForgeAus: you could try manipulating the command line that kdm calls X with.03:24
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ForgeAusStartX doesn't start KDM03:24
JucatoForgeAus: besides Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Start Console Session in the KDM menu?03:25
waylandbillthe man page for kdmrc shows how to make a custom command line get sent to X03:25
ForgeAusconsole session is in KDM, kewl03:25
ForgeAusdoes that exit to TTY? or start an Xterm?03:25
Jucatotty03:26
ForgeAusawesome, I havn't tried it (in fact forgot it was even there)03:26
ForgeAusanyway... thats got nothing to do with my current config issue03:26
ForgeAuskdmrc?03:26
neutralossForgeAus: I'm jumping into the conversation, but why aren't you using .desktop to start the kdm session?03:26
ForgeAuswhats that and where/when's it called?03:27
ForgeAus!kdmc03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:27
ForgeAus!kdmrc03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdmrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:27
guidencan I play youtube videos with java?03:27
waylandbillForgeAus: that controls kdm03:27
neutralossno, guide03:27
Jucatoneutraloss: his problem is that when he boots, it doesn't start KDM automatically. but if he types startx, it runs without a problem03:27
JucatoForgeAus: no guide. it's a file03:27
neutralossyoutube is flash03:27
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neutralossasir03:27
ForgeAus,desktop?03:27
waylandbillForgeAus: I was thinking that you could put a command line to X to turn on as much debugging as possible.03:27
ForgeAusaren't they icon files mostly?03:28
neutralosswell in the session manager you have kde.desktop03:28
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neutralossin the kde.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions03:28
ForgeAuswhere's kde's session manager, I know Ubuntu (gnome) has one03:28
neutralossIt's installed automatically for me03:28
guiden Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.03:28
ForgeAuskde is my default session03:28
guidenthat's what I'm getting03:29
ForgeAusbut kdm doesn't start03:29
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neutralosshave you looked at your startkde script?03:29
ForgeAus(automatically anyhow)03:29
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ForgeAusstartkde and X sessions happen as a part of KDM right?03:29
neutralossOh, you want it to log you in automatically to KDE on bootup?03:29
waylandbillForgeAus: do you know that kdm isn't starting, or is it bailing out?03:29
ForgeAusI get TTY instead of KDM03:30
guidenI don't have flash, it doens't work on my computer03:30
neutralossohh03:30
Bonaldo2000I just had my startup say "USB disconnect" for a lot of devices and then freeze. I never had this before and I rebooted and there was no problem. Should I be concerned or is it just something that "happens"?03:30
neutralosshave you looked at your menu.lst?03:30
ForgeAuswayland I don't know03:30
ForgeAusbut kdm starts if I run it with sudo no problems03:30
neutralossIt's possible you are booting into a lower level of init03:30
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ForgeAusso you think the boot process is interrupted by a tty login before it gets to kdm?03:31
ForgeAusthats possible03:31
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neutralossForgeAus: Was KDE ever automatically launching?03:32
ForgeAusyes03:32
neutralossWhen did it break? Do you have any hypothesis what caused it?03:32
waylandbillForgeAus: does /var/log/kdm.log show anything useful?03:32
LeeJunFanBonaldo2000: it's not normal, but if it doesn't happen again/alog I wouldn't worry about it.03:32
LeeJunFanBonaldo2000: it's not a laptop is it?03:33
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ForgeAusnot sure when it broke but ever since I've had my fstab replaced with an empty one03:33
Bonaldo2000LeeJunFan: no its a stationary computer03:33
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ForgeAuskdm.log is empty!03:33
ForgeAushmm strange03:33
Bonaldo2000LeeJunFan: ok, so you would say that I should just ignore it...I mean its not a hardware error or something like that?03:33
ForgeAustheres lotsa kdm.log.#.gz's03:34
ForgeAusand a kdm.log.103:34
LeeJunFanBonaldo2000: probably not if it doesn't happen again. It's tough to say from just one time.03:34
Bonaldo2000LeeJunFan: yeah, you're right. Maybe the timing was of on some device or something...03:34
ForgeAushmmm lots of radeon issues03:34
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ForgeAusthe main one being: (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found03:35
berkes since a few days some process is eating up 100% CPU. But it does that with spikes of half a second, every two seconds or so.03:35
berkesso top' is not very helpful in finding what process is is.03:35
ForgeAus(whats the format for that PCI:1:0:1 thing or how do I find out how to reference an AGP slot?)03:35
berkesany tips on how to find the process that behaves like this?03:36
Bonaldo2000LeeJunFan: I *might* have had it happen other times though. I had some frezes before I disabled the splah screen, but that time I could not see what caused them03:36
waylandbillForgeAus: /etc/X11/default-display-manager contains kdm?03:36
ForgeAusbtw the radeon thing isn't the issue, it happens the same even using a Generic Video Card  driver03:36
waylandbillit must since you can start it manually. n/m03:37
ForgeAusyup the only line in that file is: /usr/bin/kdm03:37
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DHGEForgeAus: check your Xorg.log03:37
ForgeAuswhat am I looking for?03:38
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DHGEForgeAus: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:41
waylandbillForgeAus: first thing is that the timestamps are even matching when you think kdm started up (or more importantly didn't)03:42
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ForgeAus      (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.03:42
ForgeAus(EE) RADEON(0): Microcode: cannot load microcode03:43
guidenshould I do this? http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php03:43
ForgeAusthose two lines03:43
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waylandbillif kdm did start up, the timestamps in the Xorg.0.log would be some odd time.03:43
ForgeAus(the second one is kinda a side issue Generic Video Driver doesn't autostart KDM either)03:43
DHGEForgeAus: me thinks then: NO driver problem03:43
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waylandbillof course... it would help if they had timestamps. :(03:44
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ForgeAuslol interesting point wayland, perhaps you could suggest it to devs?03:44
waylandbillor at least a single line with the time in it. :-)03:45
waylandbill:q03:45
ForgeAusguiden depends on if you want/need any packages from there03:45
waylandbillactually. the log's mod time should do.03:45
guidenBut it doens't replace the sources.list file, it only puts a file in the directory sources.list.d03:45
waylandbillthat's how you can check if kdm is really starting...03:46
guidenso how can it affect the repository list?03:46
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ForgeAusyou mean 02/03/07 1.30am03:46
waylandbillForgeAus: look at the modification times of kdm.log and Xorg.0.log next time you boot.03:46
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ForgeAuskdm.log is empty remember03:47
ForgeAus01/03/07 4.27pm03:47
DHGEForgeAus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:47
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ForgeAusDHGE ok, but why?03:47
DHGEto get X up again ...03:48
ForgeAusI am in X03:48
ForgeAusI can startX03:48
ForgeAusit just doesn't autostart in boot process03:48
guidenI get this when I run apt-get update03:48
guidenW: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278303:48
ForgeAus(logs me into TTY instead)03:48
waylandbillForgeAus: doesn't matter. it can be empty but still being touched.03:48
DHGEsudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm03:49
ForgeAusxdm? ok03:49
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ForgeAusPackage `xdm' is not installed and no info is available.03:49
neutralossguiden: you can repos directly to the sources.d directory03:49
neutralossit's just another way of doing it03:49
ForgeAusall that did is ask the default display manager03:50
ForgeAus(if I used kdm)03:50
weathermanhi, if you want to use nfs how do you connect two pcs? Is a network cable sufficient?03:50
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neutralosscrossover cable weatherman03:50
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neutralossunless both nics are autosensing03:50
kruno_some1 please tell me, can k9copy manage dvd protection? It is standing at 93% for about 10 minutes. tnx03:50
waylandbillguiden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31851903:50
waylandbillkruno_: depends on the protection03:51
weathermanneutraloss: sorry I don't know much about this stuff, a crossover cable is just the regular cable you can plug into your network card right?03:52
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kruno_waylandbill: are there some plugins or something, i'm not so good at that.03:52
cox377can anyone recommend some good video editing software avi?03:52
guidenok thanks03:52
waylandbillweatherman: yes, but rx/tx are flipped in it. usually yellow in color or with crossover label03:53
waylandbillkruno_: some protection are better than other is all.03:53
waylandbillkruno_: and will resist copying03:53
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waylandbillweatherman: if you don't have one, they are not expensive. cheaper than a switch or router anyway. :-)03:54
weathermanwaylandbill: ok, I got a yellow one, hopefully it's the right one :)03:54
kruno_waylandbill: it's a disney cartoon movie, can't belive what they do to my nephew :)03:54
waylandbillweatherman: even yellow, it should say crossover or x-over on it.03:55
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waylandbillkruno_: those capitalists just want their money! :-) I wouldn't doubt it has good protection from disney03:56
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spawn57is there anyway I can use udev to create symlinks for both my mice, I want different xorg.conf configs for both of them03:57
neutralossDon't they have separate headers in xorg.conf?03:57
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weathermanwaylandbill, unfortunatly it just says: SSTP CAT 5 26AWGx4P PATCH E188601 (UL) TYPE CM LL84201 CSA TYPE CMG FT4... not the right one is it?03:58
kruno_waylandbill: i'm switching to another capitalists to deal with another :) tnx anyway03:58
neutralossno weatherman :( that's a patch cord03:58
weathermanok, then I'll go get one. The plug is the same though right?03:59
neutralossYou could try it anyway, a lot of newer NIC's don't even care.03:59
neutralossyes exactly the same03:59
AlexandraMHello. I've installed kubuntu 6.10 and the network does not work. The chipset is detected (ALi Corporation M523) but the network doesn't work (I've tried with both static and dhcp). Some ideas?03:59
neutralosshave you tried installing knetwork manager?04:00
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AlexandraMno04:00
AlexandraMhow should I do that?04:00
neutralossin adept you can search for knetworkmanager04:00
AlexandraMdownload the .deb ?04:00
AlexandraMis it on the cd ?04:00
neutralossoh duh04:00
neutralossit may be.04:00
neutralossYou have no internet though04:01
AlexandraMdoes it do anything smarter than I can do with ifconfig ?04:01
SlackRatand after configuring, i often find the network doesnt connect until i reboot, or at least log out and in again.....bug or feature, ive no idea04:01
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neutralossdoes ifconfig show your network cards?04:01
AlexandraMyes04:01
AlexandraMeth004:01
AlexandraMbut it doesn't work04:01
neutralossis it wired or wireless?04:02
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AlexandraMwired04:02
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neutralosstried rebooting like SlackRat suggests?04:02
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SlackRatsometimes thats what it takes at least on drake04:03
AlexandraMno04:03
AlexandraMI will try04:03
SagaciousKJBDoes anyone know where I can get the sun-java6-bin deb package?04:03
neutralossTry rebooting with wire plugged in04:03
SagaciousKJBI mean, other than apt. ;)04:03
AlexandraMok04:03
AlexandraMbrb04:03
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SlackRatget the install setup from sun directly04:03
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BluesKajyes, the sun site has more up to date pkgs04:05
weathermanwow I'm reading through the nfs howto and it seems quite complicated... isn't there something simpler to just mount a hard disc on my pc from my laptop?04:05
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SagaciousKJBUmm04:05
SagaciousKJBThe download links seem to be broken on sun's site. :/04:05
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neutralossyeah just use samba04:06
JucatoSagaciousKJB: why not use apt?04:06
SagaciousKJBIt's giving me a weird error that I don't understand04:06
JucatoSagaciousKJB: pastebin the error. maybe someone here could understand04:06
Jucato!pastebin | SagaciousKJB04:06
ubotuSagaciousKJB: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:06
SagaciousKJB*sigh*04:07
SagaciousKJBApt suddenly began working04:07
spawn57weatherman: better to use cifs, it's not too hard04:07
SagaciousKJBWhen I tried to get the error for you04:07
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Jucato:D04:07
Jucatoisn't that great? :P04:07
SagaciousKJBThis is why linux gives me such a headache.  Just weird things like this.  I guess I should be happy. :P04:07
SagaciousKJBAll right, anyway04:08
SagaciousKJBTHanks04:08
neutralossMost of the time I encounter problems like that it's either permission based or a flaky internet connection04:08
SagaciousKJBThe pastebin thing should be useful later on. ;)04:08
SagaciousKJBYeah, I think it was a little bit of the latter04:08
SagaciousKJBIt was telling me there was something wrong with the package, and then asking if I was root04:08
SagaciousKJBI just got done installing Dapper04:09
JucatoSagaciousKJB: you might have forgotten to use sudo in that case04:09
SagaciousKJBMy installation of Edgy didn't work out too well.  I had a major kernel bug.04:09
SagaciousKJBNah, I used sudo, I'm sure of it04:09
SagaciousKJBEven tried "su" and a root prompt04:09
SagaciousKJBSo, I guess it was a flaky connection04:09
Edulixuhm04:10
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Edulixwhich tar command creates a tar.bz2 out of a directory?04:10
Edulixand why isn't feasty herd 5 released yet?04:10
Jucatoa bit late I think...04:11
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CShadowRunhehe, spent 1 day using linux now :D04:12
CShadowRunmade a video about windows vs linux and stuck it on youtube :P04:12
CShadowRuni didn't really need to say anything, i just kinda put them side by side and let the stats speak for themselves :P04:12
SagaciousKJBlol04:12
SagaciousKJBI just wish linux was a little easier to use.04:13
CShadowRunhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zk8EAoleLg :D04:13
CShadowRunaye, i wish that too04:13
CShadowRunbut im sure linux will become easier to use soon. with things like kubuntu its viable for people doing office work to use linux very easily04:13
SagaciousKJBMost of my problems stem from trying to get nvidia drivers and ntfs support, though, so not really linux's fault.04:13
CShadowRunnow you just need to get the gamers sorted out, and all will be good :D04:13
neutralossEdulix: I think it's the -j switch04:14
neutralosstype tar --help04:14
SagaciousKJBYeah, I don't game, and sort of realized linux will be the industry standard in a few short years, so I just decided I'd get used to it now.04:14
neutralossumm04:14
neutralossI'm not sure how set in stone that is SagaciousKJB04:14
CShadowRuni saw a video of some guy using xgl and beryl...and i just had to have it04:14
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SagaciousKJBWell, given that linux is free, and the fact that most developers seem to be switching to linux, I don't think it's long before the end-user does too.04:15
CShadowRunyea, im half of a developer04:15
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CShadowRuni mostly do mIRC Stuff, but im learning java :D04:15
SagaciousKJBI think 3 countries just switched their computer systems over to linux.  There's $100 laptops in Africa now with linux on 'em I believe, and more and more people are getting sick of Ms's shit.04:15
SagaciousKJBSo, maybe Mac vs. Linux, but I doubt MS will hold on to the reigns much longer.04:16
neutralossIn order for Linux to garner more support, the enduser is going to have to significantly step up their computer knowledge04:16
neutralossall of us here likely have fooled around with computers for a while now04:16
CShadowRunmac...i don't see why anyone would use it :S04:16
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CShadowRuni mean its like the car that works on 5% of the roads.04:16
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CShadowRunyea :)04:16
SagaciousKJBWell, I say a few short years04:17
SagaciousKJBBecaue from what I've noticed, GUI support is becoming a lot better04:17
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CShadowRunnah, all that needs to be done is all this stuff you have to do in the terminal, build a gui for it04:17
CShadowRuni mean, everything. the end user should never have to use the terminal.04:17
SagaciousKJBI doubt you'll phase out the need to be somewhat knowledgable to run a terminal, but with the amount most people use computers, I think the average end-user could get on linux now and use it.04:17
CShadowRunonce you've got that far it'll seriously become viable (noobies don't like terminals)04:17
CShadowRunyea :)04:18
SagaciousKJBI dislike the terminal greatly.  lol04:18
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SagaciousKJBIt's one of my biggest pet peeves with linux, but I'm getting used to it.04:18
neutralossi grew up on dos04:18
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CShadowRunsame here :P04:18
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SagaciousKJBWell, there are some pretty stark differences between dos and a linux shell.04:19
CShadowRunall you guys gotta do, is get xgl and beryl in your bootable ubuntu disc, and create gui's for 99.9% of the stuff that needs to be done with terminal04:19
CShadowRunand the people will start flooding in imo :P04:19
SagaciousKJBEnough of which to make me grind my teeth each time I try to open a directory with spaces in it with bash. :P04:19
neutralosshehe, tabcomplete ftw04:19
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JucatoSagaciousKJB: have you tried Tab?04:19
guidenI know alot of html but I don't know how to make a website, what should I do?04:19
CShadowRunlol04:19
SagaciousKJBOf course04:19
SagaciousKJBBut sometimes it won't work04:19
BluesKajthe terminal is intimidating at first, but after one learns how powerful and easy it can be to use then it can be a godsend IMO :)04:19
guidenI mean an adress04:19
guidenserver04:19
SagaciousKJBLike, for instance, I had a folder called "An Inconvenient Truth" *cough*justsomeoldfolder*04:19
SagaciousKJBTyping "sudo rm -R An\" and then tab, wouldn't tab complete it04:20
DaSkreechCShadowRun: Wrong :)04:20
SagaciousKJBHad to type out the whole thing myself.  Not a big deal with a directory that small, but some of mine get to be REALLY long04:20
neutralossor sudom rm -rf An (tab tab)04:20
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CShadowRun[DaSkreech-> why? :P04:20
neutralossI start hitting tab tab pretty early on04:20
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: try "sudo rm -r An\ "04:21
SagaciousKJBSo I have to do a double-tab for that or what?04:21
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neutralosstab tab just lists all the matches04:21
ForgeAushmm my printer gets a DHCP address, how can I get linux to sniff it out?04:21
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: Makes a lot of difference04:21
SagaciousKJBNah, it removes the directory find, I'm just talking about tab complete. :P04:21
MenaHi, i always get a message at startup ata1 disabing port , ata2 diabling port and also make system check ....what is this ?04:21
DaSkreechCShadowRun: Still need games for peopel to flock04:21
ForgeAusin winXP it works04:21
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neutralossForgeAus: cups?04:21
CShadowRun[DaSkreech-> true, but thats as simple as wine04:21
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: What removes directory find?04:21
DaSkreechCShadowRun: no it's not and you bloody well know it :)04:22
CShadowRunsomeone needs to make a 'smart' wine that looks at the name of the exe your trying to run and sets itself up automatically04:22
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SagaciousKJB"sudo -R *dir*"04:22
ForgeAusdoes cups have a kioslave?04:22
DaSkreechCShadowRun: Native games by publishers FTW!04:22
SagaciousKJBI was just commenting on how tab complete won't work for that scenario04:22
SagaciousKJBAt least not for me04:22
CShadowRun[dasickis-> :P04:22
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DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: Describe what you and what happens04:22
DaSkreechWhat you do even04:23
SagaciousKJBI type "sudo rm -R An\" then tab, expecting it to autocomplete with "sudo rm -R An\ Inconvenient\ Truth/"04:23
SagaciousKJBHowever it just sits there and does nothing04:23
CShadowRunyay, wine will run counter strike source04:23
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DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: Have you deleted it already?04:24
SagaciousKJBYeah04:24
DaSkreechWiil it run ShadowRun? :)04:24
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: remake one :)04:24
SagaciousKJBAll right04:24
SlackRatwhy the  backslashes?04:24
DaSkreechmkdir "An Inconvient Truth"04:24
CShadowRun[DaSkreech-> according to the wine website04:24
DaSkreechSlackRat: They escape spaces04:24
CShadowRuni'll give it a shot and get back to you :P04:25
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SagaciousKJBYup04:25
DaSkreechSlackRat: Or rather special Characters04:25
SagaciousKJBStill won't auto-complete04:25
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SagaciousKJBOh, nvm04:25
SagaciousKJBI see what I did04:25
SagaciousKJBFinally04:25
AlexandraMno luck :(04:25
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DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: ok try "sudo rm -r An\ " <tab>04:25
SagaciousKJBIt was 'cause I had the "\" there actually04:25
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Jucato:P04:25
SagaciousKJBTerminal illiteracy is a major problem. :P04:25
JucatoTab places that '\' for you04:26
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ForgeAusso all I really need is a url to my printer...04:26
JucatoTerminal illiterate people don't know about the '\' :P04:26
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: You know what you were doing. You were escaping the tab04:26
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LL_Hakaisoumorning all04:26
ninHerhi all04:26
SagaciousKJBWhat does that mean, DaSkreech?04:27
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DaSkreechAll isn't here right now. Would you like to leave a message04:27
AlexandraMlspci reports this ethernet controller: 'ALi Corporation M5263 Ethernet Controller (rev 50)'. I can see it in ifconfig, but dhcp doesn't work and I cannot acces the network with static configuration. what can I do to fix this?04:27
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: ou know what \ does right?04:27
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AlexandraMthe module that's loaded for this is uli525x04:27
endermuabdibhi04:27
AlexandraMno, uli526x04:27
SagaciousKJBDaSkreech: Not really, I just know I need it to refer to a directory with spaces04:28
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: it "escapes" a special character so that the shell doesn't interpret it as special04:28
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: it escapes character presses that have special meaning to the terminal04:28
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: Like > or |04:28
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SagaciousKJBOh, right04:28
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: the space is normally an argument separator to commands04:28
MenaWhay i always get systen check for the padtitions ??04:28
DaSkreechYou can use anything in a name but if it's special you have to escape it04:28
Menasystem * partitions*04:29
Chousukepretty much04:29
DaSkreechYou did "rm An\" instead of "rm An\ "04:29
ChousukeI don't think NUL and / are allowed in Filenames04:29
DaSkreechYou need that extra space to make tab work again04:29
Chousukenot with ext3 at least04:29
DaSkreechChousuke: Fine fine :-P04:29
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SagaciousKJBYou know, I had a question about files and directories for linux04:30
SagaciousKJBI know that in Windows, it needs a ".whatever" to be a file04:30
SagaciousKJBBut in linux, if I say sometyhing like, "/dev/hda1" Is hda1 a file or a directory?04:30
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: In Unix everything is a file except users and groups04:30
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: hda is a file04:30
SagaciousKJBSo, it doesn't matter if there is no ".extension"?04:30
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: directories are fiels as well04:30
Chousukeyeah04:30
DaSkreechfiles04:31
JucatoSagaciousKJB: hda is a file. but in some cases, /foo1/foo2, foo2 may be a file or a directory04:31
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: extensions have no meaning in UNIX.04:31
Jucatothey only have arbitrary meanings04:31
DaSkreechChousuke: not fully true but ...04:31
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: you could name a text file .jpg if you wanted.04:31
ErunnoThey are useful nontheless :D04:31
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DaSkreechChousuke: if it matches magic then it does04:31
LL_Hakaisouok then crud...04:31
LL_Hakaisoui'm getting this error message.04:31
LL_HakaisouE: The package vmware-player needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.04:31
LL_HakaisouE: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.04:31
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LL_HakaisouE: The package vmware-player needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.04:31
LL_HakaisouE: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.04:31
SagaciousKJBIs magic some kind of extension-filetype correspondonce refference?04:32
DaSkreechProbably need to delete the deb file04:32
SagaciousKJBi've noticed "magic" mentioned a few times before, and wondered what it was.04:32
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: very good :)04:32
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: magick.04:32
Chousukeit's just that.04:32
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Chousuke-k too04:32
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Chousukeno need to worry about it, since usually magic just works.04:32
Chousuke;P04:32
SagaciousKJBYeah, I've wonered what that was seeing it in a few terminal lines before.  It didn't throw me through as much of a loop as when I typed "apt-get" and it said, "aptitude does not have super cow powers" or something.04:33
Chousukebasically, the contents and type of a file are determined by looking at what it contains04:33
Chousukenot by the extension04:33
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SagaciousKJBOkay, I have a question then04:34
SagaciousKJBI don't know if anyone is familiar with "copy /b" in windows, but you can basically merge one file into one of another sort, then rename the file extension to view either of the files.04:34
SagaciousKJBWould I just be able to open a file like that in say, a pdf reader if it was merged with a pdf?04:34
ChousukeI'm not sure how that would work.04:35
SagaciousKJBYeah, it seems to be sort of just for windows, but I use to download ebooks like that.04:35
Chousukeif you merge a PDF with a JPG by concatenating, the result is something that is neither a PDF nor a JPG04:35
SagaciousKJBHold on a moment, I'll grab you something to better explain what I mean04:36
ubuntuhey guys, i'm installing kubuntu and I want to know what filesystem to choose. is it ext3?04:36
guidenis gmail down?04:36
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guidenis google taking over the world?04:36
Jucatoubuntu: yes, that is the default for Kubuntu04:36
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_Daisuke_Ido_gmail's working just fine04:36
ubuntuisn't there anything better by now?04:36
Chousukelet me just boot w2k and I'll see what /b does :p04:36
dwidmann2If anyone has a moment can they dpkg -S some files for me? (I'm on my friends very non-linux laptop)04:37
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Jucatoubuntu: there are other alternatives, but whether they are better, it's a subjective question04:37
_Daisuke_Ido_friends don't let friends run windows.04:37
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SagaciousKJBChoksuke: The command will be something like, "copy /b inputfile1 inputfile2 outputfile"04:38
jhutchinsubuntu: There are newer filesystems, but ext3 works pretty well and has the advantage of several years of development.04:38
_Daisuke_Ido_Jucato: do you know if reiserfs is still being developed?04:38
SagaciousKJBThen to view the files, you just rename the extension on the output file, under Windows of course.04:38
DaSkreechubuntu: Whats the problem you have with ext3?04:39
Jucato_Daisuke_Ido_: sorry, don't know...04:39
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: aha04:39
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DaSkreechChousuke: qemu?04:39
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: that just concatenates the files.04:39
timster!bittorrent04:39
ChousukeDaSkreech: I run OS X. Virtual PC04:39
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: Yes, it's possible to concatenate files in linux, even files of unrelated type.  You'll probably get a file that won't read properly with either type of reader thoguh.04:39
ubotubittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB04:39
timster!torrent04:39
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html04:39
SagaciousKJBjhutchins: That's exactly what happened when I tried it under linux04:39
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: the same thing is achieved with cat input1 input2 > output04:39
SagaciousKJBI'm more concerned with how to open the files that had it done under Windows, though.04:39
DaSkreech_Daisuke_Ido_: Isn't he in jail?04:39
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: The resulting file is the same.04:40
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_Daisuke_Ido_DaSkreech: yeah, that's kind of why i'm wondering04:40
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: The result is usually nonsense though04:40
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: If you mix two binary formats, you're not likely to be able to open them.04:40
_Daisuke_Ido_i think he's made "psychotic genius" status04:40
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: What you might be able to do is to open the application that you want to view the file with, and see if it can view it.04:40
DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: so you can cp \b a jpg and a mp3 to a .txt and get the lyrics and album art in ascii ?04:41
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: I have a feeling that you have a misunderstanding about how files and file formats in general work04:41
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: Reading the first file might work, but that first file will just be garbage to the viewer for the second file.04:41
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: I'm skeptical that you can view both in windows.04:41
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SagaciousKJBjhutchins: It works in Windows, i've done it so many times I can't count04:41
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jhutchinsBy the way, many programs in Linux _do_ use the file extension to guess a filetype, they're just not as bound by it as Windows software is.04:42
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SagaciousKJBHere, this picture explains it04:42
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: It might be that your ebook format is really a plain pdf file04:42
SagaciousKJBKaffeine04:42
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: Ok, give me a specific example of two disparate file formats and what you use to view the output.04:42
SagaciousKJBWhoops04:42
SagaciousKJBhttp://www.anonib.com/bookchan/images/1/1166083656420.jpeg04:42
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jhutchinsOk, yeah, that works in linux too.04:43
SagaciousKJBNow, that worked countless times under Windows for me.  However I've not really tried it too much under linux.04:43
Chousukewhat a weird trick04:43
Chousukewhat use could that be, besides obfuscation.04:43
jhutchinsIt's often used to conceal trojans.04:43
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SagaciousKJBit's used to embed files on imageboards a lot.04:44
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SagaciousKJBMp3s, rars, etc.04:44
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Chousukeah04:44
Chousukeso if you download an image you get teh RAR.04:44
SagaciousKJBI've never ran into a trojan in one, but I'm sure it's possible.04:44
jhutchinscp jpg > output.rar && cat input.rar >> output.rar04:44
SagaciousKJBYup, Chousuke04:44
Chousukejhutchins: that doesn't work04:45
DaSkreechOh they used to do this to add .bat files to id3 tags in mp3s so when you played it it ran a script04:45
jhutchinsSagaciousKJB: You've never detected a trojan you may have downloaded.04:45
DaSkreechI remember this04:45
Chousukejust cat file.jpg file.rar > output.jpg04:45
jhutchinsChousuke: That'll work too.04:45
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SagaciousKJB:/04:46
ChousukeSagaciousKJB: anyway, yeah, concatenation is possible04:46
ziceroi know this is offtopic .. how (besides using nslookup) could i possibly find out "who owns/is_provider_of an ip address" ?!04:46
ChousukeI'm not sure if readers like it though.04:46
SagaciousKJBOkay, well, I'll brb04:46
SagaciousKJBI need to restart x04:46
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DaSkreechzicero: dig04:47
Chousukeof course, you can always make a tool that splits the file.04:47
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DaSkreechSagaciousKJB: alt+ctrl+Bkspace :)04:47
Chousukebut it's not a trivial task for a non-programmer04:47
SagaciousKJBI actually just use steghide to do it between windows04:47
SagaciousKJB*linux04:47
jhutchinszicero: If necessary, sudo apt-get install whois && whois <address>.04:47
ForgeAusinteresting distro timeline: http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png04:47
jhutchinszicero: Also available on some websites.04:47
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flaccidzicero: dnstuff.com geo ip by location04:49
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amsmith42Is there a keyboard shortcut to lock the session?04:50
Jucatoamsmith42: Ctrl+Alt+L04:50
jhutchinsThe key part here is that rar will persist in reading non-rar data from a file until it either ends or it finds a rar header.04:50
amsmith42Thank you.04:50
SagaciousKJBYeah, that's what I've always understood about it, but it also seems to work on mp3s04:51
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SagaciousKJBNot all the time, but quite a bit.04:51
PF-Away!feisty04:52
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+104:52
freemanhello04:52
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freemanblin inostranchi04:52
freemangg04:52
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timster!deluge04:54
ubotudeluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information04:54
SagaciousKJBIs anyone here a ChaCha guide by chance?04:54
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SagaciousKJBI'm trying to find more guides who use Linux, trying to get it working.04:54
Tibmolhow can i install my zoom usb modem ?04:54
timster!limewire04:56
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.04:56
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Jucato!deluge-torrent | timster04:56
ubotutimster: deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1466 kB, installed size 3888 kB04:56
timster!frostwire04:56
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:56
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timsterIs frost wire in the repppos?04:57
Jucatonope. the wiki page gives instructions on how to install it though04:57
timsterOk04:58
SlackRattimster, yes04:58
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papponehello04:59
papponedoes it exist a 64-bit version of kubuntu?04:59
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timsterYes04:59
fdovingpappone: yes.04:59
Jucato!64bit04:59
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.04:59
timsterEMT64 = Yuck05:00
timster!EMT6405:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emt64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:00
SlackRattho, i have most of the repos enabled, including mulitverse05:00
Tibmoldoes ubuntu support zoom usb modem ?05:00
timsterSlackRat: I couldn't find it05:00
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timsterBut I have alot ennabled05:00
SlackRathow many pkgs show up in synaptic as available?05:00
timsterIm on Kubuntu :p05:00
JucatoSlackRat: frostwire isn't in the repositories05:01
SlackRatme too05:01
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timsterSynaptic is Gnome?05:01
SlackRatthats where i got it, it shows up in synaptic05:01
SlackRatsynaptic runs on kde as well05:01
timsterOh05:01
JucatoSlackRat: you might have added some 3rd party repository then05:01
timsterWell, I have the deb installled05:01
SlackRateven on distros like kanotix or mepis which are kde05:01
Tibmoldoes ubuntu support zoom usb modem ?05:01
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SlackRatmight be jucato05:02
Jucatoin which case, frostwire is not in the default ubuntu repositories05:02
SlackRattotal avail pkgs is round 1880005:02
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timster!java05:03
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:03
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timster:o05:03
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timsterI cant use Adept?05:03
SlackRatwhy not?05:03
Jucatoin installing Java? not on Edgy or Dapper05:04
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SlackRatoh....java. bleh05:04
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timsterDapper05:05
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timsterRight05:05
timsterThe instruction is05:05
timster  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin05:05
timsterBut It cant find the package05:06
SlackRatis it recommeded at this point, on dapper, to upgrade from the sun java to 6?05:06
ForgeAushow do I run hplip?05:06
timsterNo, just sais install sun java05:06
SlackRatyes but 6 is available now05:07
SlackRatwhich is what im wondering05:07
timsterHmmm05:07
Jucatoyou need to enable multiverse05:07
timsterI have05:07
timsterWhats the multivers reppo?05:08
fueljava 6 rocks! :)05:08
timster!multiverse05:08
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:08
SlackRatmost of the rest of the unsupported debian pkgs out there05:08
SlackRatyes but does java 6 rock on dapper?05:09
fuel:)05:09
fuelyeah its good...... no problems so far05:09
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SlackRatgreat05:10
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waylandbillI didn't notice a difference from 5. :-)05:10
timsterI havent got the multiverse reppos on here05:11
SlackRatoh wait, no universe is the rest of em, and multiverse is the not free05:11
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timsterOh, is it gb.archive.ubuntu.com?05:11
SlackRatso long as it doesnt start crashing java based programs....05:11
timsterWill it matter if I get drid of the GB bit?05:11
timsterrid*05:11
LL_Hakaisou!skype05:13
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:13
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waylandbilltimster: you use a different mirror05:13
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LL_Hakaisouok i have a problem05:17
LL_Hakaisouwhen i try to install vmplayer on adept, it gets to 20% and just halts05:17
LL_Hakaisouno error message or nothing05:18
LL_Hakaisou!vmplayer05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
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LL_Hakaisou!vmware05:18
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware05:18
fuelis vmware a complete version?05:18
fuel:O05:18
SlackRatcomplete? meaning?05:18
timsterDoubt it05:18
timsterVMware is commercial05:19
SlackRatvmplayer is free, so is server.......youre thinking of vmworkstation05:19
fuelthen there is only the trail version (limited) and i doubt you could do anything with it05:19
SlackRatfree as in you dont have to buy it, proprietary tho05:19
SlackRatvmplayer? fully functional05:20
SlackRatjust cant make vmx images with it05:20
timster!Gnutella05:20
LL_Hakaisoubrb. need to relog05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
fuel:D05:20
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SlackRatyou need workstation to install and clone your own vmx05:20
fuel!limewire05:20
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.05:20
LL_Hakaisou!frostwire05:20
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:20
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fiyawerx!java05:20
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:20
LL_Hakaisouthere you go05:20
LL_Hakaisouuse that05:20
LL_Hakaisou!frostwire > timster05:20
fuel!limewire >fuel05:21
LL_Hakaisoui think i did that right05:21
fuelnice :)05:21
timsterYeah05:21
LL_Hakaisoudonn't use limewire05:21
timsterI got it :P05:21
fiyawerx!multiverse05:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:21
LL_Hakaisouuse frostwire05:21
timsterI want the network05:21
SlackRatbot abuse!05:21
fuel:)05:21
timster!bot abuse05:21
ubotuPlease don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot05:21
LL_Hakaisouit's the same, except open source, with all hte functionality of limewire pro05:22
fuel!msgthebot05:22
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:22
timster!ping05:22
ubotupong05:22
fuellimewire doesnt look good on linux :(05:22
fuelor better swing looks bad on linux.....05:22
fuelbut java 1.6 looks good with gtk+ laf05:22
SlackRatyou want pretty or you just wanna steal music?05:22
[EG] Taurihey um...05:22
fuelSlackRat:  :D05:22
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[EG] Tauriusing wine, i cant type anything05:23
timsterI installed gtk-Gnutella but I cant get to it.05:23
fuelbut who wants gtk+? :-&05:23
[EG] Tauriit wont let me type in my login info for steam05:23
soulriderdownlaoding music is bad, buy it with tons of DRM, its better05:23
[EG] Tauriany1 help with this?05:23
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timster:P05:23
[EG] Tauri!steam05:23
ubotuSteam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/05:23
[EG] Tauriyeah that dont help05:23
timster[EG] Tauri: Have you got the right keyboard layout05:23
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[EG] Taurium05:23
[EG] Tauridunno05:23
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[EG] Tauriim typing to u right now arnt i?05:24
[EG] Taurior do i have to configure wine?05:24
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[EG] Tauri?05:25
soulriderwe can see what you type [EG] Tauri05:25
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[EG] Tauriyeah05:26
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[EG] Tauribut why cant i type anything on a program using wine?05:26
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[EG] Tauri!wine05:27
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:27
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timster!java05:28
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:29
timsterAny torrent users here?05:29
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fueltimster: meeeeee05:29
[EG] Taurime too05:29
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soulridertimster: yes05:29
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fuelbut what is the warning about not using adept ?05:29
soulriderfuel: theres a bug05:29
rittyan_Hi all, can kubuntu fit into 1G or.. how much space do I need for base and somehow-featured installation?05:30
timsterWhats the best search engine to use to find a song?05:30
soulriderand adept wont show the licence agreement05:30
fueloh05:30
fueltimster: try joining some illegal channel05:30
fueltimster: :P05:30
timster:(05:30
soulridertimster: if you just want a song why dont you try Frostwire ?05:30
timsterBecause I need JAVA05:30
timsterAnd I can't get java05:30
soulriderand yes, try not to do illegal stuff here05:30
soulridertimster: why not ?05:30
fuelbut couldnt guys just change the laf of adept ?05:30
fuelit looks very cluttered :(05:30
ForgeAusso the only way to execute Mac apps is an emulator like Basillisk or Virtualizer (VMware for Tiger).... :(... why isn't there some wine-like project for Mac apps?05:31
soulriderfuel: laf?05:31
timsterIt won't install, I think Im using the wrong multiverse05:31
Cugelfuel: okay, we'll change it.05:31
fuelsorry.. not laf exactly .... the gui...05:31
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soulriderfuel: i think the GUI is fune, have you tried Synaptic ?05:31
fueleven i want to participate in it :)05:31
timsterWhat multiverse are you guys using05:31
soulridertimster: the only one :P05:31
soulrider!repos05:31
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:31
fuelno i dont want to see gtk+ apps :-&05:31
timsterYeah05:31
soulridermight wanna read that05:31
timsterBut the java isnt on there05:31
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timsterI have a gb mirror of it05:32
soulriderit is05:32
timsterI can't find it05:32
fueltimster : http://ubuntuguide.org05:32
timsterWhats the name of the package?05:32
fuelor com what ever.....it has detailed instructions!05:32
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soulridertimster: want me to send my sources.list ? you could replace it for the one you have and install java and then use the old one back05:32
moihello people, you know a place where I can ask questions about monodevelop+C#+oracle XE 10g??????05:32
fuelmoi: surely not here!05:32
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fuelmoi: try #mono or #mono-devel05:33
moiok05:33
timstersoulrider: Im on dapper, could you just tell me the multiverse one?05:33
soulridertimster: i think the package is sun-java6-jre05:33
soulridertimster: use a console to install it though05:33
timstersun-java6-jre, apt-get doesnt find it05:34
moialso you can check if already installed the command "update-alternatives --display java" (for see if is there, then if the java "provider" is sun or gcj or any other)05:34
soulriderhold on05:34
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soulrideryes, timster the name of the package is that05:34
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soulridertimster: hold on a moment05:35
timsterWhat about using easy ubuntu?05:35
linijahello. anyone know why kontact sometimes doesn't save changes?05:35
fueland dont choose java doc package.....it does not install and it keeps asking to install over and over again!05:35
soulridertimster: dont know, i wouldnt personally05:35
soulridertimster: you will want to read this http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/13/ubuntu-quickie-enable-dapper-repositories/ and follow those instructions05:36
guidenis there a way to search for only painting programs like krita and others?05:36
fuelguiden : try kolorpaint05:37
soulriderguiden: maybe gimp or kolorpaint05:37
fuelor gimp05:37
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fuelkolorpaint is really good :)05:37
soulriderits like M$ Paint... on steroids05:37
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guidenok05:37
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fuelits easy to use....05:38
fuelboth krita and gimp are abominations ! takes years to learn em05:39
guidenyeah I wan't something easy because I more into pixel art05:39
guideni'm05:39
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guidengreat programs, It has grids!05:41
timster:O05:41
timsterLibdvdcss2 is illegal to install in the us without paying?05:41
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fuelhe he05:42
`nicolaHow do I know which version of kubuntu I'm running ?05:42
timster!swiftfox05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
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fueltimster: :P05:42
Chousuke`nicola: cat /etc/lsb_release05:42
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`nicolathanks Chousuke05:44
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soulrider!ati05:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:44
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fuelbut swiftfox is well known!!!05:44
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fuelsome one has to feed the bot with swiftfox url05:45
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timsterWhat is swiftfox05:46
fuelits optimized version of firefox (disclaimer  : that is the description of swiftfox)05:46
SlackRatlighter too05:47
fuelfirefox is a bit slow since it uses gtk+ :P05:47
fueland they wont develop a kde version x(05:47
fuel:((05:48
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fuelhttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Firefox+KDE+Integration05:49
timsterI got java to work05:50
timsterAutomatix2 :P05:50
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waylandbillsetting the arch for your system and then apt-building firefox will make a swiftfox.05:51
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sysadminhola05:51
MenaWhy when i set the system to suspend mode i cant open it form moving the mouse or press any key on the keybord05:51
sysadminsomos nuevos en esto del Linux/ubuntu05:52
Menaand also the monitor doesnt open up05:52
sysadminhello05:52
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fuelMena: you have to press the power button on your computer05:52
Menafule, yes05:52
sysadminwe are new in this05:52
fuelMena: i dont know why it doesnt respond!!! but thats the way to resume05:53
soulrider!adeptfix05:53
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:53
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fuelpress power button + keep pressing your key board or something.... force it wake up ! <:-D05:53
Menafule, okay but the monitor doesnt open after preeing the power button05:53
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fuelyeah as soon as the monitor switches on move your mouse or press keyboard ... it will work05:54
Menafuel , ok05:54
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rob-westcan someome help me setup kmail05:58
comosicusi'm trying to find a irc server adres in spain ......can anybody help me05:58
rob-westfor sbcglobal.net05:58
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soulrider!schedule05:58
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:58
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timsterWhen It sais its supported for 18 months, does that mean everyone will ignore you after 28 months05:59
timster18*05:59
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comosicusi'm trying to find a irc server adres in spain ......can anybody help me05:59
Alumincomosicus: there should be a server list on the home page for whatever network, http://www.freenode.net/ for example05:59
yaccin!mdadm05:59
ubotumdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB05:59
timsterBecause I only use dapper, but hopefully it wont go out of date05:59
Alumincomosicus: and we heard you the first time06:00
Alumintimster: I think it means, no official package updates after that time06:00
timsterAh, thanks06:00
Aluminso you're on your own with security fixes etc06:00
timsterHow easy is it to upgrade to breezy06:00
timsterect06:01
waylandbilltimster: shouldn't for 5 years I thought.06:01
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yaccin!sp comosicus06:01
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB06:01
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waylandbillthat's why it's LTS06:01
Alumingoing to breezy from dapper would be a downgrade06:01
timster!upgrade06:01
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:01
soulrider!feisty06:01
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:01
yaccin!es | comosicus06:01
ubotucomosicus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:01
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timsterHow can I upgrade from dapper to edgy06:01
Aluminrob-west: what, specifically, are you having trouble with?06:02
yaccintimster: replace all the dappers in you /etc/aot/sources.list with edgy06:02
timsterWhat was the first ubuntu called?06:02
yaccindo a sudo apt-get update06:02
yaccinsudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:02
yaccinsudo apt-get upgrade06:02
yaccinsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:02
timsterl06:02
yaccinsudo apt-get upgrade06:02
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yaccinshould be it :)06:02
Tm_Teean: Har.06:03
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eeanTm_T:  argh"?06:03
timster!breezy06:03
ubotubreezy is the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger".  Upgrading to !dapper : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades06:03
timster!ubuntu 506:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu 5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
Tm_Teean: Just har.06:03
Alumintimster: warty warthog06:03
soulrider!naming06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about naming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
soulrider!names06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about names - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
Aluminthen hoary hedgehog06:04
timsterOk yeah06:04
timsterUpgrading a,arpl takes hours06:04
timsteramarok*06:04
timsterBut overall I need to upgrade 160 packages :P06:05
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Tm_Ttimster: What exactly take hours? Downloading packages?06:05
timsterYeah, Im installing the amarok update06:05
Aluminfor stuff like that, I like to do "apt-get -dy dist-upgrade" first06:05
timsterand there are hundresds of packages.06:05
timster21% and its installed 70 packages06:05
AluminI need to upgrade to edgy06:05
timsterSame ^ ^06:06
Aluminalthough I may just wait for feisty and reinstall06:06
timsterHmm06:06
AluminI really want Vim 7.x though06:06
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Alumintabs in gVim!06:06
Tm_Ttimster: Installed? I thought you're still downloading them.06:06
Alumingive to me!06:06
timsterYeah, tahts what I meant06:07
Tm_T;)06:07
timster!gVim06:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:07
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timsterWhats Vim06:07
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Aluminonly thing I don't like about the upgrade is that LightScribe doesn't work in anything newer than dapper for some reason that nobody seems to know yet06:07
Alumintimster: text editor06:07
timsterBeter than kate?06:07
Alumindepending on your definition of better, yeah06:08
timster!Quanta06:08
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB06:08
timsterI use that for my php06:08
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Alumin_I_ like it better than Kate, but you know how people are about their text editors06:08
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moirob-west talvez te sirva la red http://www.irc-hispano.org/06:09
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timsterCould always ask on the spanaish Kubuntu channel, they may know?06:10
Tm_Tmoi: English please.06:10
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moifor the guy that say if he can find a net in spanish, maybe the servers at http://www.irc-hispano.org/ perhaps a ubuntu or related channel is there (I dont know im not logged there)06:11
BluesKajAlumin:  what's better than Kate ?06:11
SlackRat#kubuntu-es06:11
Tm_T!es06:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:12
moiI see :)06:12
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AluminBluesKaj: I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may start a flame war :)06:13
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timsterWhy does an amarok update need to update Openoffice?06:13
SlackRatwhats 'best' discussions are a waste of time06:13
SlackRatso you can convert your text files to mp306:13
SlackRat:-P06:14
timster>_,06:14
timster>_<06:14
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BluesKajLOL Alumin, merely asking for your opinion , just curious.. i believe in the, "to each his own", attitude.06:14
timsterWHY ARE YOU INSTALLING SWAHILI. AMAROK DOESNT NEED SWAHILI06:14
pulaskihello06:15
Tm_Ttimster: No caps.06:15
timsterSorry06:15
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Tm_Ttimster: You did "apt-get upgrade" etc that does upgrade whole system, not only amarok.06:15
Tm_TRight?06:15
AluminBluesKaj: well, I prefer g?Vim06:16
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timsterIm using Automatix2 to install Amarok 1.406:16
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Tm_T!automatix06:16
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:16
Tm_Ttimster: See that.06:17
BluesKajwell SlackRat, sometimes a discussion about programs helps enlight us noobs ...hence the question. :)06:17
timsterOh06:17
timsterdear06:17
houseI need to decode a flac file the docs say to type this "flac -d [INPUTFILE [...] ] "   ,,,,, what do i put in input file, do I need a dir path there?06:17
timsterOops06:17
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SlackRatsometimes using the program enlightens us more06:17
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timster!WorksForMe06:17
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:17
BluesKajSlackRat, if we know about it , yeah.06:17
timsterDya recon it will break?06:17
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timsterI have so far installed java correctly06:18
timster!automatix206:18
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:18
SlackRatwaht are you breaking now timster?06:18
timsterIm not06:18
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SlackRatheh06:18
timsterAutomatix may be :P06:18
pulaskiWhen I use the Adept updater I get this error: http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg06:18
pulaskiWhen I use the Adept updater I get this error: http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg06:18
SlackRatoh, right, and who installed automatix and ran it?06:18
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timsterMe06:19
timsterlol06:19
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pulaskiI think I'm missing a gpg key06:19
timsterHopefully it will work06:19
timster>_<06:19
christianeI am working with kubuntu and I am looking for a software to create web photo albums. (I tried to install cthumbs but don't know where to look for it...)06:19
timsterIts installing the latest Linux Image06:19
pulaskiI have to cancel the download to proceed06:19
timsterWerent there problems with that06:19
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pulaskidoes anyone know how I can get the required gpg key to avoid this error?06:20
SlackRatpulaski, thats an error?06:20
neutralossfor which repo?06:20
BluesKajdecode the flac file to folder, but it depends what format you want to decode to, which you must choose for the output  ,, then you should be able to play it06:21
pulaskiwell SlackRat it says its an error on the Adept line that monitors the dl06:21
neutralossI've always wondered, is there one key server for all gpg keys?06:21
SlackRatgraphics on the kmenu06:21
neutralosswhich repo is the error on pulaski?06:21
SlackRatand refers you to that page?06:21
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pulaskia security repository for edgy06:21
pulaskineutraloss06:21
neutralossthe offficial one?06:21
pulaskiI think so06:22
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neutralosswhat's the url?06:22
pulaskilet me try and recreate it so I can be more specifific06:22
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pulaskiOh neutraloss, I pasted the url further up the list06:23
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pulaskihere it is neutraloss06:24
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pulaskihttp://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg06:24
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pulaskiok I'm fetching updates again using adept06:24
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pulaskiadept grabs the headers then hangs at 99%06:26
timster!easyubuntu06:26
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu06:26
neutralossgpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B506:27
pulaskiok here is the error neutraloss06:27
SlackRattimster, that bot is gonna smack you soon06:27
pulaskiyes06:27
timster=/06:27
pulaskiis that the key I need? neutraloss?06:27
neutralossgpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -06:27
pulaskigood06:27
pulaskiI'll try it06:27
neutralosswell, that's the key for the official security repo06:27
pulaskithanks06:27
neutralossmake sure it's right in your sources.list though06:28
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timsterI thin automatix froze06:28
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timsterBut It diddnt finish06:28
timsterWill something bad happen if I just close it?06:28
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neutralosshard to say timster06:28
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timsterIm guessing it will leave all the temporary files06:29
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timsterBut thats not majorly bad06:29
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neutralossit's likely that nothing bad will happen06:29
timsterI can't close it though06:29
timsterThe button does nothing06:29
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timsterjust says let it finish the script06:29
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timsterbut its frozen06:30
pulaskiok netraloss06:30
Aimeehey, anyone know how to set root password in kubuntu06:30
timsterHow can I force a program to close06:30
SlackRatAimee, its in the docs06:30
neutralosssudo passwd06:30
neutralossbut, that's the command.06:30
timsterHow can i force a program to close06:30
Aimeeno, neutraloss06:31
SlackRatthree finger salute, kill it from system guard or the command line06:31
timsterOh it finished06:31
neutralossgood timster06:31
AimeeI'm currently done a freshinstall06:31
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timsterBut my kmenu doesnt have any of the programs in it06:31
Aimeeand don't know how to set a initial password for root06:31
timsterIs there a way to update it06:31
SlackRatah, Aimee, you dont06:31
AimeeI can't login with root account06:32
SlackRatyou use sudo06:32
sampan!root06:32
clauhow can I uninstall mysql and delete all settings and stuff in order to install it freshly?06:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:32
pulaskithanks neutraloss06:32
neutralossdid it work?06:32
timster:O06:32
pulaskiwell not ecactly but the update finnishe by itself06:32
timsterIt did a complete upgrade06:32
pulaskinothing was exported06:32
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neutralossafter a fresh install su doesn't work for me without sudo passwd first06:32
timsterYESS06:33
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timsterIt plays mp3's06:33
pulaskiI'll check back later neutraloss if I run into this again.06:33
pulaskiI have to split.06:33
pulaskicya06:33
neutralosslates06:33
pulaskiand thanks again06:33
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claunobody?06:34
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timsterOkay, When I use adpet to install some programs, they don't appear in the menu06:34
SlackRatAimee, your system wont need root, when you need to use a root command, type sudo <command> and it will ask for your user password06:34
SlackRatgiving you root access for that instance06:34
SlackRattimster, kappfinder?06:35
timsterWhats that :P06:35
SlackRattry it on command line and see06:35
timster!kappfinder06:35
ubotukappfinder: non-KDE application finder for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 284 kB, installed size 1408 kB06:35
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timsterSlackRat: Nothing happend06:35
SlackRatoh, ok, sudo apt-get install kappfinder06:35
timsterOk06:36
SlackRatit will scan for new apps and put them in the menu06:36
aseigoclau: i suppose apt-get remove mysql-server, then delete everything mysql related in /etc and /var06:36
SlackRator you can use kmenuedit, which is more manual06:36
clauaseigo: thanks, I'll try that out06:36
waylandbill<SlackRat> try it on command line and see    <--- that's quite dangerous. :-D06:36
timsterDo I need to run Kappfinder every time? O does it run in the bg?06:36
SlackRatfor kappfinder? pffft06:36
waylandbill:)06:36
SlackRatno, sometimes kappfinder wont spot it, or it will automatically show up on menu in a while06:37
timsterIt found some06:37
timsterBut not enough06:37
SlackRator you can add and edit your menu with kmenuedit06:37
timsterOnes like games and frostwire diddnt appear06:38
SlackRatfrostwire should appear under intrnet06:38
SlackRatautomatically06:38
timsterDiddn't06:38
BluesKajfrostwire=crapporn06:38
timsterWhow they have appeared06:38
timsterall my games06:38
SlackRatsometimes it shows up after a login.....depends on the app and how often the system updates itself06:38
BluesKajaMule06:39
aseigoSlackRat: it should always appear without a login.06:39
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SlackRatmany other apps wont till you put them06:39
argonelclau: most of the time packages know about their configuration files, so you can use add --purge to your apt-get line to remove them06:39
SlackRataseigo, eventually yeah06:39
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waylandbilltheres a command to force kde ones that didn't show up after an apt. ksyscoca or something06:39
SlackRatsome take longer than others06:39
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aseigoit just takes time: kdirwatch needs to notice the changes on disk, kded needs to respond and run kbuildsycoca, kicker needs to re-create the kmenu on the signal that kbuildsycoca is done...06:39
SlackRatbetter off editing your own menu the way you want06:40
aseigoso it depends on how busy/responsive the system itself is, what kded is doing and when kicker gets the signal =)06:40
SlackRatlike getting rid of the stupid potato head kids game06:40
aseigohaha06:40
timsterLYNX :P06:40
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aseigohey now, my son LOVES that game06:40
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SlackRatwell leave it  then06:40
SlackRati remove it06:40
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bizhello, i'm using kubuntu on a system that has no way to connect to the internet. is there a way to update this system with a new kubuntu cd or something? any ideas how i can keep it relatively up-to-date using cds/dvds?06:40
SlackRatpeople might think i play it otherwise06:40
SlackRat:-P06:40
waylandbill:)06:41
SlackRatbiz....not without upgrading to the next release06:41
timsterdamn06:41
timsterI ran x kill06:41
bizSlackRat: that would be no problem i think?06:41
SlackRatproblem with ubuntu is its one cd......internet based packaging06:41
timster!x kill06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x kill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
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SlackRatno, but if you want a program, without internet that isnt included, what do you do?06:42
waylandbillthere's dvds available from vendors for 3 bucks or so.06:42
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computerhermithello people06:42
SlackRator the dvd, which amazon has for about 10 bucks06:42
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SlackRator the linux format dvd that came with theri magazine a while back06:42
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jthomasgood day, all, from snowy Minnesota!  Can anyone help me to set up Free/Busy publishing in KDE's KOrganizer/Calendar?06:43
waylandbillbring your computer to the internet. that's whatcha do. :-)06:43
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timsterYou made me kill my desktop06:43
timster>_<06:43
valeriociao06:43
timsterSo I did Ctrl Alt Backspace06:43
bizok, thanks06:43
SlackRatmwahahaha06:43
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timsterThat restars x right?06:43
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jthomasIs anyone familiar with KDE's PIM?06:43
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SlackRatbiz, or you can take your chances that the apps you want dont need other apps and go where you can download them as deb files onto a cd06:44
SlackRatand install them at home...problem is many apps need dependencies to run06:44
bonbonthejonSlackRat: there is an apt-floppy, does the same kind of thing06:44
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bonbonthejonhi computerhermit06:45
bonbonthejonjthomas: whats the problem06:45
SlackRatits why i didint use ubuntu if i didnt have a net connection......bonbon...really, wheres the apt floppy?06:45
SlackRatyou have a link?06:45
computerhermithi bonbonthejon06:45
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computerhermit:-)06:45
jthomasbonbonthejon: i cannot publish; if I create an appointment it says it cannot be saved06:46
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bonbonthejonjthomas: where are you publishing to?06:46
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jthomasbonbonthejon: my URL is a local file (actually a NFS mount because it wasn't working under Samba either)06:46
amsmith42Why might Wine be ghosted in Adept?06:46
jthomasURL: /home/jthomas/.FreeBusy/jthomas.vfb06:46
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jthomasbonbonthejon: URL: /home/jthomas/.FreeBusy/jthomas.vfb06:47
bonbonthejonSlackRat: i heard about apt-floppy, never tried it, but i found this http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/06:47
jthomasbonbonthejon: tried user name as both jthomas and jthomas@mymeail.com06:47
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bonbonthejonjthomas: do you have permissions to the nfs drive06:47
SlackRatthanks06:47
cox377does anyone here use avidemux?06:47
jthomasyes full06:47
jthomasbonbonthejon yes full permissions06:48
jthomascox377 a bit... but i never really understood it...06:48
argonelbiz: do you have another debian or ubuntu box that does have internet?06:48
bonbonthejonjthomas: i'ven never used the feature, you might ask in #kde or I think there is a #kontact06:49
bonbonthejonargonel: biz left06:49
argonelhaha06:49
jthomasbonbonthejon thank you i'll try #kontact06:49
cox377jthomas: i know, i've just edited a movie with it and cut out the bits i didnt want an i'm no unable to save it06:49
bonbonthejonjthomas: there usually aren't a lot of people in there, you might need to try kde06:49
cox377jthomas: if u save as an avi it says the damn audio is missing06:49
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jthomascox377 i think it has to pull the audio out first or something... not sure... do a google search for desktop video avidemux, i recall a video tutorial about how it was done06:51
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SlackRatwow, thats a useful tool that one06:51
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posingaspopularsudo aptitute get firefox?06:53
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SlackRataptitude get??06:54
posingaspopularSlackRat: I dont know what im doing06:54
posingaspopularwith aptitude anyway06:54
bonbonthejonposingaspopular: just "sudo aptitude install firefox"06:55
posingaspopularbonbonthejon: thanks06:55
eilkeri wanna add an mp3 to my *.avi file, could someone help me pls ?06:55
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Menasome hwo i amke the login manager to defualt and now i must every time06:57
callum_hey all06:57
Menato enter my name06:57
bonbonthejonhi callum_06:57
callum_im new to da linux world06:57
Menawhat to change to enable it to remeber my name06:57
bonbonthejonMena: its in the system settings, let me find it06:57
waylandbillcallum_: excellent. welcome to it.06:57
Menaok06:57
jthomasMena go into KDE's System Settings, then into Login Manager, then the Convenience tab06:58
callum_using Kubuntu at the moment might go to Ubuntu06:58
SlackRatapt-get install xchm, then find the ubuntu books, here:06:58
Menajthomas, ok06:58
SlackRathttp://www.sirdaz.com/lin/06:58
SlackRatunzip them06:58
SlackRatand enjoy06:58
bonbonthejonMena: yeah, run kcontrol, don't use System Settins06:58
eilker!avidemux06:58
ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB06:58
eilker!avidemux206:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avidemux2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:58
waylandbillcallum_: you can install ubuntu-desktop package and you'll have ubuntu (with KDE) available06:59
Menabonbonthejon, ok06:59
SlackRatnot a bright bot, is it....06:59
callum_thnks06:59
callum_but is tht easy cos without using the Avent07:00
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bonbonthejonSlackRat: it just means noone has put information about that particular entry07:00
callum_cos its command line07:00
Menabonbonthejon, then enable auto login07:00
SlackRatthank god bonbonthejon, i thought i was the only one who went straight to kcontrol07:00
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SlackRati know what it means, i wasnt under the impression it was a robot reading books, lol07:00
bonbonthejonSlackRat: I like system settings, but some things in kcontrol dont show up07:00
eilker i click to record button and xvidcap closes itself, any idea ?07:00
Menabonbonthejon, or jthomas,   i did that befor but it didnt work07:00
SlackRatright, or in different order, like wallpaper under display07:01
bonbonthejonMena: you can have it put in your user name only, or also log in07:01
callum_REGISTER 14224207:02
callum_lol07:02
Menabonbonthejon,ok07:02
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jthomasMena what exactly are you looking for?  If you want it to pre-select a user, look on the left side of that Convenience tab07:02
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|Daisuke_Ido|is there a way to "clean up" apt's database?  reading the db seems to take longer than actually installing software anymore.07:02
Menajthomas, ok07:02
bonbonthejon|Daisuke_Ido|: if you clean with apt-get it will remove the packages it downloaded, not what you mean07:03
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jthomasMena figure it out?07:05
root_.07:05
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Menajthomas, i will try it now07:05
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LL_Hakaisouyep07:06
LL_Hakaisouit's seale07:06
LL_Hakaisousealed07:06
|Daisuke_Ido|bonbonthejon: i knew that part07:06
LL_HakaisouKubuntu is now going to be my primary OS07:06
bonbonthejonLL_Hakaisou: yay!07:06
LL_HakaisouI can do all my media stuff from it07:06
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LL_Hakaisouit supports my ipod right out of the box07:07
LL_Hakaisoui'm working on installing WoW07:07
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LL_Hakaisoui have no reason to reinstall windows07:07
bonbonthejonLL_Hakaisou: which gen ipod?07:07
LL_Hakaisouipod video07:07
LL_Hakaisouit's nifty cause i always keep it in disk mode07:08
LL_Hakaisouso i have lots of media on it that the ipod can't play or even use07:08
bonbonthejonLL_Hakaisou: yeah07:08
LL_Hakaisoulike roughly 49 gigs of anime07:08
LL_Hakaisou40*07:08
waylandbill!universe | callum_07:08
ubotucallum_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:08
callum_cheers07:09
LL_Hakaisouyou know07:09
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LL_Hakaisouthe most daunting part about this whole experience was learning how to install stuff07:09
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LL_Hakaisouonce you get that, it's nice and cozy07:09
bonbonthejonLL_Hakaisou: all the software is in adept, no need to download from many websites, in most cases07:09
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bonbonthejonLL_Hakaisou: since you have an ipod, you might want to check out RockBox, it's pretty sweet07:10
waylandbilldependency hell is much reduced for sure.07:10
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waylandbillbonbonthejon: RockBox do video to ipod?07:10
bonbonthejonwaylandbill: video support is in the works, I think it does very low frame rate, but I have a greyscale ipod so I dont know for sure07:11
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LL_Hakaisoui don't use my ipod for media much anyway07:12
LL_Hakaisoui used to, but it's more useful as a plug and play removable hard drive07:12
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ZoohouseQuick question: Can I use http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ for my Kubuntu source list or is there another list for Kubuntu?07:12
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bonbonthejonZoohouse: yes you can use that07:13
Zoohousebonbonthejon: thenks07:13
bonbonthejonZoohouse: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu all share repos07:13
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Zoohousebonbonthejon: is it a good idea to include source repos?07:14
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bonbonthejonZoohouse: unless you are planning on compiling, most users wouldn't need them07:14
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Zoohousebonbonthejon: thenks07:14
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MenaJthomas, bonbonthejon, thanks07:15
bonbonthejonMena: guess it worked :)07:15
Menayes07:15
comosicushey alll it's a fuckt up situation on spanish channel's07:16
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zdubhi, everybody!07:16
bonbonthejonhi zdub07:16
comosicusnobody whant to help me07:16
LL_Hakaisouzdub: hello07:16
jthomasMena, no problem, just make sure to help someone else along their way to KDE!07:16
SlackRatwhats the problem como?07:16
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Menajthomas, hope so if i can07:17
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Mena:)07:17
LL_Hakaisouif you are a pirate say AR!07:17
zdubhow can i remove a not definitive installed package with unmet dependencies?07:17
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Kaajavihi07:18
SlackRatque es el probleme?07:18
Kaajavihay alguien de argentina que le pueda dar una mano a este nobato?07:18
comosicusi'v been on spanish channel(madrid they kick me out,sevilla same,almeria same) and all i whant to ask is how do i find a channel used by the locals from huelcar de almeria07:18
ScarFreewill1since two restarts ago my pc loads apache and not apache2, where can i see where the startup daemons are?07:18
jthomasKaajavi que te pasa?  Soy de Minnesota en la USA...07:18
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comosicusthey are there just for sex07:19
SlackRatthere may not be a local channel.....just the language channel07:19
Kaajavino puedo conectar un modem usb a mi kubuntu07:19
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bonbonthejon!es | comosicus07:19
ubotucomosicus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:19
Kaajavisoy muuuuyyyy novato en esto07:19
Kaajavigracias ubotu07:19
comosicusdan that07:19
comosicusdone that07:20
Kaajavibye07:20
Kaajavijajaja07:20
SlackRatcheck the forum there are local forum groups on ubuntu forums under LoCo.....07:20
Kaajaviok, no sabia q era un bot07:20
Kaajavijajaja07:20
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jthomasKaajavi: escribe /join #kubuntu-es07:20
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SlackRatbut these are for questions about kubuntu, nothing local about that07:21
comosicusin my town there is a channel with all mirc users just from my town...must be in huelcar de almeria same to07:21
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christianeafter installing cthum,07:21
SlackRatnot necessarily.....theres no local user group here, but some places do have them07:21
zdubguys, how to remove a package with unmet dependencies?07:21
comosicussomething with #huelcar-de-almeria or something like that i'm looking for07:22
SlackRatsudo apt-get remove <package>07:22
christianeafter installing cthumb and albumshaper I cannot find them in the k-menu to start them - any suggestions?07:22
comosicusso how do i find users of mirc from huelcar de almeria?07:22
SlackRatwell, you wont find that on freenode so far as i know07:23
Menadoes any one have the icon set micro07:23
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SlackRatmaybe check with #mIRC ?07:23
SlackRator google for it07:23
restagnerfolks, i'm having some trouble with the MULTIVERSE repository. Each time i run Adept Updater, it shows an error for the Multiverse repository.  --- any ideas?07:23
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soulriderrestagner: dapper or edgy07:24
Menapastebin, your source lsit07:24
soulrider?07:24
restagnerdapper07:24
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SlackRatcheck the forums for local groups07:24
ScarFreewill1since two restarts ago my pc loads apache and not apache2, where can i see where the startup daemons are?07:24
SlackRatwhats the error??07:24
restagnerscreenshot at http://home.socal.rr.com/rstagner/AdeptUpdater_Error.png07:24
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soulridercheck http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/13/ubuntu-quickie-enable-dapper-repositories/07:24
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zdubSlackRat: thx :)07:24
bonbonthejonzdub: try "sudo apt-get autoremove"07:24
restagnersoulrider: thanks i'll give it a look07:24
waylandbillScarFreewill1: /etc/rcx.d  where x is the runlevel all symbolically linked to /etc/init.d/ scripts07:25
restagnersoulrider: here's what I'm seeing http://home.socal.rr.com/rstagner/AdeptUpdater_Error.png07:25
soulriderrestagner:maybe the address is wrong07:25
ScarFreewill1waylandbill: thx07:25
soulriderbut im not sure, i can never remember the correct ones07:25
zdubbonbonthejon: thanks to you too :)07:25
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SlackRatmight be a problem with that server atm.....youre stuck waiting for it?07:26
soulrider!seen garen07:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen garen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:26
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bonbonthejonrestagner: open konsole, run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the results07:28
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comosicuscan i bug you with a problem?07:28
ScarFreewill1i've found both apaches in /etc/rc4.d07:28
lascar'tis what the channel is fo07:28
ScarFreewill1should i just take one out?07:28
Mena!#kubuntu07:29
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE07:29
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waylandbillScarFreewill1: you can remove the one you don't want to start if you like.07:29
waylandbillScarFreewill1: those are only symbolic links07:29
bonbonthejoncomosicus: ask the question07:29
Mena!ask07:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:29
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ScarFreewill1waylandbill: ok, i'll just move them,,, thanks for your help07:29
comosicusin my town there is a channel wich is used by the locals.......i whant to find same thing .....a chanell used by the locals from huelcar de almeria in spain07:30
waylandbillScarFreewill1: do the S and the K for the one you don't want.07:30
bonbonthejon!loco07:30
christianewhere  do i find programs like albumshaper after the installation?07:30
ubotuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams07:30
bonbonthejon!loco | comosicus07:30
ubotucomosicus: please see above07:30
bonbonthejonthats funny, it knows when to say that07:31
comosicusnot again...................07:31
comosicusk07:31
Dr_williscomosicus,  irc servers are 'world wide'    and there are 1000's of irc servers  - finding the channel for your town.. its best to ask the people in the towns. :)07:31
ScarFreewill1waylandbill: i just cut it out of the folder07:31
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callum_btw07:31
comosicusyes but to ask them i have to find them nooo07:31
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SlackRatyoure looking for mIRC users? or kubuntu users?07:32
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Dr_willisor Linux users..07:32
comosicusmirc07:32
ScarFreewill1waylandbill: did you mean turn the S into a K for the one i don't want because i don't understand what you said last07:32
comosicususers07:32
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Dr_willismIRC is a specific irc client. -07:32
SlackRatthen you have to search for mIRC, this has nothing to do with that here07:32
SlackRatits a linux channel07:32
Menajthomas, Do you know the icon set (Micro)07:32
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waylandbillScarFreewill1: no there was an S that starts and a K that kills. You want to remove both the S script and the K script.07:32
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ScarFreewill1waylandbill: ok, then i'll go have to find the K because i don't see it...07:33
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morvokanyone running a 3 head setup on there X system?07:33
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jthomasMena, not really, whats up?07:34
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ScarFreewill1waylandbill: ok i got it in /etc/rc6.d07:34
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Dr_willismorvok,  not currently. but i have befor.07:34
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Menajthomas, its an icon set from a site devianart and i can fet it for kde so i just ask if some one hvae it for kde heheh :)07:34
ScarFreewill1waylandbill: ok now i'm done ty again ;)07:35
jthomasMena, sorry i've never really got any Iconset to work unless its preinstalled, never spent time on it07:35
morvokDr_willis: I have too. but have you ever seen when the monitor enters a screen the monitor fails. resetting X will not bring it back up. a full reboot must be done.  I have gone through the configs 100 times. I can't find a reason for it.07:35
Menajthomas, ok :)07:35
morvokwhen the mouse enters the screen!07:35
morvoksorry.07:35
Dr_willis:)07:36
Dr_willissounds like a driver glitz to me.07:36
Dr_willisI use nvidia/twinview stuff07:36
morvokDr_willis: different monitor, different monitor arrangement. whatever the screen that is "rightOf" Screen0 fails.07:36
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Dr_willisbut ONLY if its 'right Of" ?07:36
echosypsomeone help me troubleshoot my sound07:37
echosypit doesn't work07:37
echosypobviously07:37
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morvokDr_willis: it appears that way.07:38
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comosicusi'm back07:39
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comosicushelooo07:40
Mena_hi07:40
comosicusnot again07:40
echosypanyone know what i could do to fix it07:40
comosicusnow what i'm looking for is what irc server adres it is used in huelcar de almeria07:40
echosypor where to start07:40
Mena_echosyp, do you sure it doesnt work07:41
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echosypyes,07:41
echosypim smart enough to know its not muted07:41
echosypand there are oss modules loaded07:41
echosypi was thnking id install alsa and try and use that07:41
Mena_echosyp, i dont knwo but maybe if yuou opened up th ekmixer nad edit it will work i does this for me befor07:41
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Mena_and*07:42
echosypwell, im actually using ubuntu not kubuntu07:42
steve__hi. Does anyone know how to get a camcorder working in kubuntu 6:06?07:42
christianehow  do I start the program "albumshaper"?07:42
echosypim banned from #ubuntu for being stupid07:42
Mena_hmm ok07:42
echosypi gave out a shell cause i didn't know that was a bad idea07:42
echosypand the a hole used my nick and got me banned07:42
Mena_hmm i realy dont know much07:43
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echosypthen told me "ask for help in #ubuntu"07:43
echosyp...07:43
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comosicus <Dr_willis07:44
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carl__hi07:45
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bonbonthejonhi Filthpig07:45
esaymis there anything better then ksnapshot?07:46
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Filthpiga few days ago gave me(!) 1024 mb ram (Kingston chip)07:46
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FilthpigI had 512 mb already (dual 256)07:46
Filthpiger07:47
Filthpig*A FRIEND gave me ram07:47
morvokI have 3 1gb kinston chips :)07:47
Filthpigyeah, well07:47
zdubhow to find out the kernel version from a terminal?07:47
FilthpigI slapped the new chip in there07:47
morvokuname -a07:47
Filthpigbut now my system uses like 1,3 gb of ram07:47
morvokerr..07:47
waylandbillI have free ram out of 512. :-)07:47
waylandbillgood enough for me07:47
Mena_echosyp, you opened the sysetm>>>prefence>>sound right07:48
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Filthpigin percent it seems kubuntu uses just as much ram as when I had 512 mb07:48
waylandbillFilthpig: caching will do that.07:48
echosypyes07:48
scheurihi all07:48
bonbonthejonhi scheuri07:48
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Mena_echosyp, ok07:48
echosypit all seems like it would work07:48
zdubmorvok: thx :)07:48
Filthpigwaylandbill: well it shouldn't, now should it?07:48
slow-motionhallo07:49
bonbonthejonFilthpig: with more memory, linux can keep more cached07:49
bonbonthejonhi slow-motion07:49
scheurianyone know how to add information (karamba? superkaramba?) on the desktop such as temperature of mainboard and CPU and rpm of fan?07:49
Mena_echosyp, give me you a descrbtion for the problem agian plz07:49
Filthpigmy machine actually appears to be slower now than before i "upgraded" it07:49
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Mena_echosyp, i will ask for you07:49
echosyphe unbanned me07:49
echosypbut thank you07:49
morvokfilthpig: Linux will run faster now becuase its not paging its cached memory to the hard disk.07:49
waylandbillFilthpig: of course it should.07:49
Mena_ok07:49
Mena_no prob :) welcome07:50
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scheuriFilthpig: did you upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?07:50
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Filthpigscheuri: been running 6.10 since it's release07:50
scheuriFilthpig: ah I see...well...I must admit I stick with 6.06...had bad experiences with 6.10...now I am on 7.0407:50
Filthpighmh07:51
slow-motionhi bonbonthejon07:51
FilthpigI was quite pleased with 6.1007:51
[KotG|Tanuva] ive already installed java jdk and jre, but which package(s) adds the java vm to firefox and konqueror?07:51
scheuriI can not really say what it exactly was...it felt slowly, bloated....but that is only feeling...I have no hard facts...07:51
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Filthpighm07:51
FilthpigI haven't had that problem07:52
Filthpigonly more stuff supported ;)07:52
rob-westNo new emails in any folders matching 'inbox'07:52
rob-west:)07:52
scheuriFilthpig: well...that is great...:)...I am happy not everyone felt like I did...I am, however, very happy with 7.04 so far07:52
Mena_scheri, what new in it07:52
Mena_scheri, heheh :)07:53
BluesKaj[KotG|Tanuva] , there are separate java plugins for browsers07:53
scheuriMena_: ;)07:53
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Filthpigmorvok: I know the system should be faster, but it's really not. Actually CivIV crashed for the first time under Cedega AFTER I upgraded07:53
Mena_scheri, ok :)07:53
[KotG|Tanuva] BluesKaj: but where can I get em from?07:53
Filthpigbecause of the lack of memory07:53
scheuriMena_: well...new kernel (2.6.20), new version of everything, upstarted is now default AFAIK, new network helper07:54
BluesKajon the java site , do a browser plugin search07:54
[KotG|Tanuva] okay07:54
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scheuriMena_: upstart...not upstarted07:54
Mena_scheri, ok07:54
BluesKaj!plugins07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
Mena_scheri, seems nice07:54
Mena_scheri, hheeh07:54
Filthpigscheuri: I'm considering switching from kubuntu to sabayon... Otherwise I'll upgrade to 7.04 as soon as it's stable07:54
scheuriMena_: I am very confident that it will be a very good realease...07:54
Mena_scheri, ok07:55
scheuriFilthpig: sabayon....never heard of it....:)....but...linux is about choice...that is great07:55
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FilthpigI felt kubuntu made giant leaps from 606 to 610, so I can only imagine the 704 ;)07:55
scheuriI, for one, am very sure that 7.04 will be a very good release...07:55
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Filthpigsabayon is gentoobased07:55
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Filthpiga really immense distro07:56
waylandbillFilthpig: sabayon is not easy to upgrade.07:56
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scheuriah, gentoo based...oh well...bad memories for me there...;)07:56
Mena_sabayon ists name is smothy* heheh as i guess07:56
Filthpigwaylandbill: because..?07:56
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waylandbillFilthpig: it comes with just about everything. blessing and curse.07:56
scheuridoes someone use karamba or superkaramba?07:57
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Filthpigscheuri: actually I installed it today ;)07:57
scheuriFilthpig: I just did 10 minutes ago...;)07:57
scheuriFilthpig: how to "activate" it? (sounds stupid I know)07:57
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Filthpighm07:57
Filthpigutilities - superkaramba?07:57
waylandbillFilthpig: lots of packages to compile but the overlays aren't completely compatible with main portage, so you have to do things to upgrade07:57
Filthpigwaylandbill: ah07:58
Mena_!fiesty07:58
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+107:58
Filthpiggentoo for you, eh07:58
Mena_scheri, you using it right07:58
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Mena_scheri, ask there heheh07:58
scheuriMena_: ;)07:58
[KotG|Tanuva] do the superkaramba shadows actually look right with 3d desktops? under suse+xgl+compiz it looked horrible...07:58
Mena_scheri, :)07:59
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morvokbrb..08:00
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provolikhi08:03
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Mena_Heloo!08:03
Mena_Hello!*08:04
Mena_heheh even this word08:04
provolikSomeone of you can help me to find some hypertext editor like ultraedit fo kubuntu?08:04
Erunnoprovolik: Quanta ?08:04
jack_hi guys, iam not sure which version of java i need to install, if a website tells me:you do not have Java Installed. download Java from Sun Java website08:04
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provolikQuanta gives me some problem08:05
Mena_jack_, what do you mean do you have it08:05
provolikit crusches random08:05
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Mena_jack_, if you dont do this08:05
Filthpighm08:05
jack_Mena not actually no08:06
Mena_jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(VERSION)-bin08:06
Mena_jack_, first08:06
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Mena_to check what do you have do this08:06
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jack_Mena which version would i need if i dont have?08:06
Mena_jack_,  sudo update-alternatives --config java08:06
Mena_you must have java1.5 or you can use java1.608:07
Erunnoprovolik: How about NVU ?08:07
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Mena_jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(5 or 6)-bin08:07
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jack_Mena_: it says08:07
jack_There is only 1 program which provides java08:07
jack_(/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1). Nothing to configure.08:07
provolikI think I don't know it08:07
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LL_HakaisouHELP!!!08:07
Mena_jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(5 or 6)-bin  okat di that command08:07
provolikis it from mozilla?08:07
LL_HakaisouI'M STUCK IN 640x480 resolution!08:07
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bhsxhi, i have a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10, just did the suggested updates, and would like to install beryl with ati x300 card... can anyone help me?08:08
Erunnoprovolik: Yes, it's the former Mozilla html editor, now a standalone application.08:08
Mena_jack_,  you can use 608:08
Mena_jack_,  its okay08:08
provolikI need something like ultraedit, do you know it?08:08
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Mena_jack_,  are kubuntu 6.1008:08
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bhsxi have NOT installed ati drivers yet08:08
provolikI need not only for html but also for css and PHP08:08
Erunnoprovolik: Sorry, never used Ultraedit before :/08:08
jack_Mena_: syntax error near unexpected token `(' it says, i am on 6.1008:08
Mena_jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin  okat di that command08:08
Mena_jack_, try again08:08
Erunnoprovolik: I'm out of ideas then, sorry.08:09
Mena_jack_, with that08:09
provolikuhm08:09
provolikthanks anyway08:09
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Mena_jack_, woked08:09
jack_Mena_: it works, cool thanks08:09
bhsxdoes anyone have beryl running on ati in K that can help me?08:09
Mena_:) welcome08:09
jack_Mena_: do you have any idea how to send text messages from 6.10 (skype or any programme) to a mobile?08:10
Mena_jack_, after this check sudo update-alternatives --config java08:10
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Erunnoprovolik: You can use the windows version of Ultra edit via wine.08:10
jack_skype doesnt have this feature in linux, ok, doing then08:10
Mena_and check if that uses java6 after installed08:10
jack_Mena_: ok08:10
BishiNightBirdwoo I managed to get the ati propriatary driver installed... from ati's website, not from adapt...08:10
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Mena_jack_, i realy dont know08:11
LL_Hakaisousorry to bother anyone, but could someone help me address my video issue?08:11
Mena_!skype08:11
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto08:11
bhsxdoes anyone have beryl running on ati in K that can help me?08:11
jack_Mena_: i have skype installed, thats not the prob, the prob is the missing feature08:11
LL_Hakaisou!ati08:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:11
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Mena_jack_, i dont know went to the site form the program and see mybe they are trick or something08:12
Mena_jack_, go*08:12
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provolikErunno, I don't have wine08:12
Mena_from*08:12
Erunnoprovolik: It's in the repositories, called, well, wine :o)08:12
bhsxit's a matter of getting beryl working really... i've had the ati drivers succesfully installed, but then when i install beryl everything goes BOOM... no more 3d...08:12
provolikI search it08:13
provolikbut I didn't find08:13
Mena_what do you mean by BOOM08:13
bhsxso i'm hoping to get some info on how to make (k)ubuntu play nicely with ati and beryl together and haven't had any luck08:13
Erunnoprovolik: Have you unlocked the universe repo ?08:13
Mena_you cant use beryl or problem with card08:13
provolikyes08:13
jack_Mena_: how do i click ok to accept the java terms in the shell?08:13
Mena_press tab08:13
Mena_then enter08:13
oneplz need help! How could i kill all tasks from onother user via shell/konsole ?08:14
bhsxi mean that i install the drivers, and have 3d working, then i install beryl and the 3d gets hosed, and beryl crashes08:14
Erunnoprovolik: Strange. Did you use adept or apt-get ?08:14
Mena_bhsx, ohhhh okay ak here08:14
Mena_!beryl08:14
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:14
jack_Mena_: thanks, never had this issue before08:14
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onehow could i kill all tasks of a user ?08:14
provolikadept08:14
Mena_jack_, no prob08:14
Erunno!wine | provolik08:14
ubotuprovolik: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:14
Mena_go*08:14
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jack_Mena_:08:15
jack_1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.108:15
jack_*+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java08:15
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jack_Mena_: i choose then 2, right?08:15
Mena_yes08:15
provolikErunno:08:15
provolikit's very strange08:15
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Mena_jack_, for futur use pastebin for large results or pasts08:16
jarti'm trying to install a kernel driver and it says a couple headers are missing: linux/irqreturn.h and linux/irqflags.h.  I have build-essential and the kernel headers installed08:16
Mena_!pastebin | jack_08:16
ubotujack_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:16
Erunnoprovolik: try sudo apt-get wine in the console08:16
bhsxk i'll try that thanks08:16
jartany ideas what's wrong?08:16
jack_Mena_: mena, ok, i usually use that, thought its ok for such small things, ok i will08:17
LL_Hakaisouwhy doens vmware-player keep trying to install every time i try to use apt-get?08:17
LL_Hakaisoudoes*08:17
Mena_jack_, no no i just telling you to know the pastbin if you dont08:17
Mena_:)08:17
one plz need help! How could i kill all tasks from onother user via shell/konsole ?08:17
jack_Mena_: thank you08:18
provolikIt dows not work Erunno08:18
provolikI try to install libwine from adept08:18
provolikbut it says me BREAK(install)08:18
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Erunnoprovolik: Not libwine, the package is called "wine"08:18
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provolikI don't have it08:19
jack_Mena_: i still get the error, about not having java, do i need to restart the whole kde? i just restarted konqeror08:19
Mena_jack_, also you was talking about sites neeed java08:19
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Mena_jack_m what are you suing08:19
Erunnoprovolik: Go to http://www.winehq.com and add their Ubuntu repo to your sources list. It should be safe in this case.08:19
Mena_jack_, firefox08:19
Mena_jack_, or something else08:19
jack_Mena_: i use the konqueror08:20
||arifaXI have an iPod and I have latest gtkpod and podnova. With podnova I download audio and video podcasts to my local drive. how can i sync that podcasts to my ipod eg. with gtkpod. I think I have to configure one of the 2 programs to look in the others dirs - anyone familiar with that??08:20
provolikI am trying Erunno08:20
jartis there any reason why linux-headers would be missing some headers?08:20
Mena_jack_, second plz08:20
jack_Mena_: what do you mean by second? restart kde?08:20
Mena_no sec for me08:20
amsmith42E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin08:21
Mena_jack_, bec they need plugin08:21
Mena_no just the whole java08:21
jack_Mena_: do you know which one i should go for?08:21
Mena_jack_, i am searching08:21
Mena_jack_, i know for fire fox08:22
jack_Mena_: thanks08:22
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Mena_jack_, if you dint need th whole jave you an remove it but some programes used it like azures08:23
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provolikErunno... I cannot open that site T_T08:24
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LL_Hakaisouhi... um... i need help reinstalling my video driver08:24
jack_i better keep it then mena_08:24
bhsxis there a kubunty equiv to gksudo?08:24
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Mena_jack_, yes i guess08:24
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LL_Hakaisouit's kdesu08:24
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bhsxty08:24
reldruhfeisty fawn herd 5 was just released08:25
Erunnoprovolik: Hm, seems to be down indeed.08:25
LL_Hakaisouhi... um... i need help reinstalling my video driver08:25
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reldruhAs much as I'd love to update, I don't think it's going to happen at least until the betas come out :-(08:25
Erunnoprovolik: Leap of faith: Add this to your sources list: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main08:25
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jack_mena_ i didnt allow java, thats why it didnt work afterwords thanks08:26
Mena_jack_, didt it work now08:26
reldruhhas anybody here updated to feisty yet?08:26
Mena_jack_, ok08:26
Erunnoprovolik: Or can you post the contents of your sources.list via pastbin ?08:26
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Erunnoprovolik: I'd still like to know why wine isn't available for you.08:27
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Erunnoprovolik: From the universe repo08:27
Mena_jack_, i dont have much experiences but with help here i thought that its plugin08:27
jack_Mena_: i also have the problem that delicious bookmarks in konqueror or kopete always ask me for the password, even though i ticked remember and its in the kwallet anyway, yes it works fine now, thanks08:27
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houseI am having trouble getting a command to work, I am a n00b, so I think I am typing it wrong,,,,little help please?08:28
Mena_jack_, maybe you can delet the inf in kwallet and it will be added auto or you can maunaly08:28
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Erunnohouse: Which command ?08:28
house1 sec08:28
Mena_jack_, bec that happened befor with some one and its worked after that08:28
househave you ever used flac?08:28
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Mena_jack_, and i also try that but dont remeber when08:28
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Erunnohouse: Sorry, no.08:29
housewell that isn't important , maybe you could look at the command line I am putting in08:29
reldruhhouse: I've used it a little bit08:30
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LL_Hakaisou!troubleshoot08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troubleshoot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
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houseok so what command do i enter to decode an mp3?08:31
LL_Hakaisou!troubleshooting08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troubleshooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
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reldruhhouse: decode? You mean just to play it from the command line?08:31
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housereldruh : I want to covert it to mp308:32
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LL_Hakaisoucan someone please help me fix my video output?08:33
BluesKajflac = free audio lossless codec... similar to wav except compressed with no data loss...requires conversion utility to mp308:33
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LL_Hakaisoui'm stuck in 640x480 resolution08:34
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BluesKajLL_Hakaisou, is kubuntu already installed ?08:34
LL_Hakaisouyes08:34
argonelhad that myself a couple of days ago08:34
LL_Hakaisouit was working fine, then i did ctrl+alt+backspace and all of a sudden i'm stuck in 640x48008:35
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LL_Hakaisoumy normal resolution is 1280x102408:35
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reldruhhouse: do you have to do it from the command line? I think I remember an amarok script that would transcode files on the fly for use with daps08:35
house?08:35
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argonelLL_Hakaisou: can you change it in the video prefs, or is 640x480 the only mode allowed?08:36
BluesKajLL_Hakaisou, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/scrn size/apply08:36
housethe docs say to type flac -d filename08:36
LL_Hakaisouit's the only allowed resolution08:36
housedo i need to put dir path?08:36
argonelLL_Hakaisou: does it fix itself on a reboot?08:36
LL_Hakaisoui've rebooted 5 times and it hasn't fixed08:36
housewhat is daps?08:36
argonelLL_Hakaisou: have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - is there a mention of 640x480 in there?08:37
holzmodemhow can i change the style of the popup dialog , when i push a FN + ... button on my laptop08:37
Mena_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh do thsi and configure the screen08:37
Mena_this*08:37
reldruhhouse: dap = digital audio player. Like an ipod, but it includes all kinds of players08:37
houseI see08:37
housethat is what i am trying to do , make it mp3 for my ipod08:38
CShadowRunanyone know of any nice bandwith stats program for linux? (Something like netlimiter would be good)08:38
BluesKajLL_Hakaisou, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/hardware/monitor configure08:39
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LL_HakaisouKaj, that doesn't work08:39
chxis there a list of Canonical certified hardware? Yes I googled, searched forums and can't find this list :(08:39
LL_Hakaisoui said that already08:39
clau how can I import a database from a previous installation (I have only the database files) into a current installation?08:39
argonelBluesKaj: he already indicated that 640x480 was the only allowed mode08:39
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LL_Hakaisouanyway, i found this in the xorg.conf file that looks interesting08:39
LL_HakaisouSection "Screen"08:39
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LL_HakaisouIdentifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "08:39
LL_HakaisouDevice     "aticonfig-Device[0] "08:39
LL_HakaisouMonitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "08:39
LL_HakaisouDefaultDepth     2408:40
LL_HakaisouSubSection "Display"08:40
LL_HakaisouVirtual   640 48008:40
LL_HakaisouDepth     2408:40
LL_HakaisouModes    "640x480@60"08:40
LL_HakaisouEndSubSection08:40
LL_HakaisouEndSection08:40
housereldruh : do you know how I can do that with amarok?08:40
BluesKajwell, I had no options either til i configged my monitor in the hardware mode08:40
argonelLL_Hakaisou: looks identical to what i had as well08:40
Tm_T!paste | LL_Hakaisou08:40
ubotuLL_Hakaisou: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:40
reldruhhouse: I'm working on it. I know I saw the script somewhere... I'm looking for it08:40
argonelLL_Hakaisou: wish i could tell you why it happened.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:40
housethank you that is cool of you08:41
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BluesKajyou don't have your monitor specifically configured so the default i s akways going to be 640x48008:41
Mena_LL_Hakaisou, yes use this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg andf just amke the resolution you want an remove others08:41
argonelit really would be nice to know what is rewriting the xorg.conf for no good reason08:41
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reldruhhouse: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2751208:41
reldruhtry that out, see if it does what you need08:41
argonelLL_Hakaisou: let me know if you still have colour depth problems when you're done with the reconfigure08:42
amsmith42Automatix for Kubuntu Edgy? Such a thing? Good/bad?08:42
Mena_sorry this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh08:42
BluesKajhe's gotta find his monitor drivers in the hardware drop down list08:42
Tm_T!automatix | amsmith4208:42
ubotuamsmith42: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:42
amsmith42Thank you08:43
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holzmodemhow can i change the theme of the atk dialogs?08:43
amsmith42!java | amsmith4208:43
LL_Hakaisouok then...08:43
BluesKajLL_Hakaisou, is your monitor driver in the hardware drop down list ?08:43
LL_Hakaisoui just got an error message that says08:43
Tm_Tamsmith42: /msg ubotu java08:44
argonelBluesKaj: monitor drivers?08:44
Tm_Tamsmith42: Or whatever and you can talk with that bot without disturbance,08:44
LL_HakaisouDbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process08:44
BluesKajyes in system settings/monitor&display/hardware08:44
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argonelBluesKaj: i don't think those are really drivers08:45
argoneldefinately not in the sense that there are video drivers08:45
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albertAlguien me puede decir como puedo hacer un script con VIM que al ejecutarlo muestre un calendario? (porfavor)08:45
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BluesKajLL_Hakaisou, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   in the terminal08:46
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thomax_!es08:46
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:46
|GaiJin|*sigh* anyone here good at webservers?? dunno what I've done wrong...08:46
albertOk, sorry ubotu08:47
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argonelBluesKaj: what?! reconfigure all packages?08:47
BluesKajthey are video settings for his monitor ... lets not argue semantics ..lets' help him get resolution working08:47
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BluesKajargonel that unlocks apt or adept of it's locked up08:47
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argonelBluesKaj: neat08:47
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LL_Hakaisoudidn't work08:48
housereldruh : how do I install this?08:48
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amsmith42Thanks, Tm_T.08:49
Tm_Tamsmith42: Np.08:49
LL_Hakaisoualso, i checked the hardware thing08:49
argonelLL_Hakaisou: the hardware thing?08:50
reldruhdownload it (it should come as a .tar.gz file), go to amarok, go to Tools > Script Manager, click Install, find the .tar.gz file and then click run in the script manager.08:50
housereldruh : do I need to extract it to any certain folder?08:50
LL_Hakaisouit's not listed, but i don't think that matters because it was working fine at 1280x1024 before on the plug n' play setting before08:50
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reldruhhouse: no, don't extract it08:50
houseoh ok08:50
LL_Hakaisouthe process is locked....08:51
LL_Hakaisouwait...08:51
argonelLL_Hakaisou: yes, i was on plug and play as well08:51
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LL_Hakaisouwould relogging clear that?08:51
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LL_Hakaisou<.< >.>08:52
argonelLL_Hakaisou: restarting should08:52
housereldruh ; so do you know how to use the script in amarok?08:53
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reldruhhouse: no, I never have. There should be a menu entry when you click on a song? And if you click configure in the script manager you should get some options?08:54
reldruhI'm not really sure08:54
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bhsxwhat's the kubuntu equiv of gnome-session?08:54
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bhsxkdeinit?08:55
LL_Hakaisouok then, what was that rebuilding command again?08:55
housethanks08:55
LL_Hakaisounvm...08:55
LL_Hakaisoustill locked08:55
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bhsxif i was adding this, what would be the kde equiv? :08:55
bhsx#!/bin/sh08:55
bhsxXgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer &08:55
bhsxDISPLAY=:108:55
bhsxexec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session08:55
bhsxsorry for the flood08:56
Mena_LL_hakaisou, i dont want to confuse you08:56
LL_Hakaisoui'll do my best08:56
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argonelLL_Hakaisou: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:56
LL_Hakaisouyea, that was saved in my terminal08:56
LL_Hakaisoutried it08:56
LL_Hakaisouthe process is still locked out08:57
argonelwtf08:57
argonelLL_Hakaisou: sudo fuser /var/cache/debconf/config.dat08:57
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argonelLL_Hakaisou: if it returns anything, it'll tell you what has the file open08:57
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bhsxwhat's the kubuntu equiv of gnome-session to start kde?08:58
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LL_Hakaisou532908:58
Heavenquakebhsx: startkde I think08:58
bhsxah that's it08:58
bhsxthanks08:58
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Heavenquakenp08:58
argonelLL_Hakaisou: ok, so: ps ax | grep 532908:58
Mena_stdin,08:59
LL_Hakaisouok then08:59
LL_Hakaisoudone, now what?08:59
stdinMena_08:59
Mena_hey you are here08:59
argonelLL_Hakaisou: that should have returned something08:59
LL_Hakaisouok then09:00
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stdinjust leaking about :)09:00
argonelLL_Hakaisou: it depends on what it returned09:00
LL_Hakaisou1000  6482 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 000000000000000009:00
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LL_HakaisouS+   pts/2      0:00 grep 532909:00
Mena_stdin, i wanted to ask  a bout the resolution options and thi sstuff but no prob now :)09:01
stdinMena_: I'm not an expert in X either :P09:01
argonelLL_Hakaisou: try ps aux | grep 532909:01
bhsxhow do I add programs to startup in kubuntu? like system>pref>sessions for kde?09:01
Mena_stdin, hheheh okay no porb :)09:01
LL_Hakaisouoh crap09:02
LL_Hakaisoui put in as09:02
BluesKajLL_Hakaisou, is your monitor listed in system settings hardware09:02
LL_Hakaisouok then09:02
LL_Hakaisoufor the last time, no09:02
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LL_Hakaisouit is a plug n' play09:02
stdin!autostart | bhsx09:02
ubotubhsx: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:02
LL_Hakaisouit always was plug 'n play09:02
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|GaiJin|anyone got a good guide for installin apache, mysql, php, and making them work in 6.10?? the ones I have tried don't seem to do anything....09:02
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LL_Hakaisouit worked before, on plug 'n play09:02
housereldruh : do I need to restart? I dont see transcode as an option on my flac files in amarok09:02
LL_Hakaisouok then09:03
bhsxty09:03
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LL_Hakaisoui got the correct output now09:03
reldruhhouse: try restarting amarok. Make sure you quit it, not just minimize it to the tray09:03
argonelLL_Hakaisou: did it give you a line like the second one you pasted?09:03
LL_Hakaisouno09:03
argonelLL_Hakaisou: ok, lets do the fuser line again09:03
LL_Hakaisouwait09:03
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LL_Hakaisoui just looked up the process id in the process terminal09:04
LL_Hakaisoutable, sorry09:04
LL_Hakaisouit registers as frontend09:04
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argonelfrontend?09:04
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housereldruh : still not there09:04
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LL_Hakaisoucommand usr/bin/perl09:05
argonel|kub(ok, make me actually use my kubuntu box why don't you? :)09:05
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housereldruh : after i install the script, am i supposed to run it?09:06
LL_Hakaisouok then09:06
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argonel|kubLL_Hakaisou: kill it, maybe it'll stay dead this time09:06
LL_Hakaisoui killed frontend, which freed up the config file09:06
reldruhhouse: Yes, you have to be running the script :-)09:06
argonel|kubexvcellent09:06
LL_Hakaisoui'm into the config now09:06
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argonel|kubok, just follow along09:07
housereldruh: i get this error he script 'transkode' exited with error code: 12709:07
argonel|kubLL_Hakaisou: it should ask you what video modes and colour depths you want09:07
housei need to put it in a different dir?09:07
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reldruhhouse: you shouldn't... I don't know what to tell you. I don't know why it's doing that09:09
houseit says this /home/house/.kde/share/apps/amarok/scripts/transkode/transkode: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:09
LL_Hakaisoui'm there09:09
argonel|kubhtf do i get kde to tell me the colour depth of an image?09:09
LL_Hakaisoui keep selecting video modes and hitting enter, but it just tells me to select video modes again09:09
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argonel|kubLL_Hakaisou: so you check the modes you want, then press tab, then enter?09:10
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BluesKajhouse, open adept and type libpng.so.3 in the searchbar , then install it09:10
LL_Hakaisouoh...09:10
LL_Hakaisoui need to hit tab?09:10
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argonel|kubLL_Hakaisou: yes, the <ok> needs to be highlighted to continue09:10
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BluesKajtab moves the cursor09:10
LL_Hakaisouo_0, i'm in a CLI for this09:11
BluesKajyes09:11
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argonel|kubLL_Hakaisou: sadly, yes. you've fallen off the edge :)09:11
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LL_Hakaisouok then.09:12
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LL_Hakaisouredid the command and it put up a basic GUI09:12
LL_Hakaisouselected video modes09:13
CShadowRunhmm, i have a 250gb sata drive hooked up to my PC, how do i read the drive?09:13
CShadowRunits ntfs09:13
Mena_What is the best refreh rate for 1280x1024 any one know09:13
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Mena_What is the best refreh rate for 1280x1024 any one know for monitor 1709:13
BluesKajprolly around 85hz09:14
argonel|kubMena_: its personal preference.. such that you don't see flickering09:14
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Mena_argonellkub, ok :)09:14
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argonel|kubfor CRT, that is.. haven't noticed what refresh rate does with LCD09:15
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amsmith42LCD's don't have a refresh rate.09:16
Mena_crystal heheh:)09:16
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Zchydemhi, does anyone know how to make dvi work with matrox g400 (pci)?09:16
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argoneltrue enough, but some software still seems to think you can set one :)09:16
amsmith42That's true, but it doesn't have an effect either way, I believe.09:17
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BluesKajLCDs still scan ..refresh rate can be reinterpreted as scan rate09:17
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amsmith42Ah.09:18
amsmith42They poll each diode in series?09:18
argonelpoll?09:19
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amsmith42For lack of a better term.09:19
houseBkuesKaj: adept couldn't find libpng.so.309:19
housenor could synaptic09:19
amsmith42In order to "scan", wouldn't they be polling each diode to see if it had changed or not?09:20
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argonelamsmith42: as far as i know each transistor is directly addressable09:20
cpk1if one cant find it then the other cant, they both use the same program house =)09:20
BluesKajhouse, then you need to find a repos that contains that file09:20
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amsmith42That's what I thought, but bkues says that LCD's scan.09:20
Mena_argonel, how to add another refrash rate on the options09:20
KaoticEvilfor the first time *ever* i now have 3D hardware acceleration!! w00t w00t!!!09:20
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argonelMena_: for a CRT?09:21
argonelwonder what happened to LL_Hakaisou09:22
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morvokAnyone help with Xinerama? a screen always fails when there is an action.09:22
morvok:boggles.09:22
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Mena_argonel, i dont know what CRT mean realy i am09:22
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Mena_argonel, but my monitir is normal not lcd09:23
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argonelMena_: thats a CRT then (cathode ray tube)09:23
morvokMena_ thats a CRT09:23
Mena_argonel,  ok09:23
Mena_argonel,  then09:23
Mena_:)09:23
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BluesKajhouse, were you trying to install cedega?09:23
argonelMena_: available refresh rates are dependent on what your monitor can do, and what your video card can do09:23
argonelMena_: is your xorg.conf manually created, or automatic?09:24
Mena_argonel, you mean edit it  i edit it beofr for resolution09:24
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Mena_argonel, but i dont creat it manauly if you mean creat it09:24
Mena_argonel, when i edit i dont have a section for reefresh rate09:25
Mena_argonel, if you mean that09:25
Mena_argonel, sorry i am not good in Xserver  things09:25
argonelMena_: so you added some resolutions to xorg.conf?09:25
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Mena_argonel, i removed and add just one i need09:26
BluesKajxorg.conf is auto ..and it autobacks up when changes are made so if you screwup X you can revert to previous vesion that works ... I know this first hand :)09:26
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argonelMena_: well, the video preferences panel should allow you to choose a refresh rate09:26
houseBluesKaj : no, I am trying to install a script for amarok that converts flac files to mp309:26
argonelBluesKaj: ha, except when it doesn't :p09:26
BluesKajhouse, hang on ...I have something you might be able to use09:27
Mena_argonel, i just have 60 for 1280102409:27
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Mena_and i also have others resolutions athough i remove them fro the xorg.config09:28
Mena_from*09:28
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BluesKajhouse , see if adept or synaptic has this in the repos ; gnormalize - version 0.5209:30
argonelMena_: i'm trying to see if there is a utility that can do this for your, the manual method of adding refresh rates is a bit of a pain09:30
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Mena_argonel, oky09:30
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Mena_okay*09:31
argonelMena_: was 1280x1024 not available by default?09:31
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Mena_argonel , yes09:31
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argonelMena_: yes it was, or "yes, it was not"? (sorry, asked the question badly :)09:32
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Mena_argonel , no it wasnt09:32
argonelMena_: was anything higher available?09:32
Mena_argonel , no lower09:32
Mena_argonel , 102476809:33
Mena_that was befor09:33
argonelMena_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397309:33
Mena_ok09:34
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argonelMena_: it may not be possible, depending on your monitor09:35
Mena_argonel , i think its can bec i can on Xp09:35
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birgstefnabend zusammen09:40
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birgstefger support?09:40
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Apallohow do i download a package without installing it?09:42
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birgstefholger?09:42
|GaiJin|why would my system not restart apache2 when using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, but I havd to use the /usr/sbin/apache2 to start it??09:42
|GaiJin|apt-get --help, and read for it... think it's --fetch-only09:43
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Apallothanks09:44
birgstefany german here ?09:44
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KaoticEvilwhat exactly is Beryl?09:47
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Adydas!beryl09:47
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:47
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KaoticEvilooooooooo......... so its like Aero for X?09:47
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Adydascheck out this09:47
Adydashttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI&mode=related&search=09:48
Adydasbest " shows " you what it looks like09:48
stephan22222_hmm09:48
stephan22222_i updated from dapper to edgy09:48
Erunnobirgstef: I speak german09:48
stephan22222_dpkg: xserver-xorg: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:09:48
stephan22222_ xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depends on xserver-xorg (>= 7.0.0).09:48
stephan22222_ xserver-xgl depends on xserver-xorg; however:09:48
stephan22222_  Package xserver-xorg is to be removed.09:48
stephan22222_and everything is now broken09:48
birgstefErunno, hi, danke hab glaub ich das Problem selber behoben *g*09:49
Apallohow do i make a samba share writeable?09:49
Erunnobirgstef: kk :)09:49
KaoticEvilok, now i want it09:50
birgstefirgendwie ist Linux, eine Welt fr sich *g* ... aber wenns einmal luft, lufts :-P09:50
KaoticEvilthink a GeForce FX5200 will run it?09:50
stephan22222_can i do anything to rescuce my system?09:50
BluesKaj!de | birgstef09:51
ubotubirgstef: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:51
birgstefty blues09:51
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reldruhApallo: When you mount it, the fmask option controls the permissions09:51
BluesKajstephan22222_,don't install xgl , until you have your xserver-xorg file error free09:52
BluesKaj#To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type09:52
BluesKajsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:52
Apallofmask?09:52
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tamaralallaa09:53
reldruhApallo: yes, fmask. How are you accessing the share?09:53
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stephan22222_BluesKaj: I cannot do anything a the moment, i have done a dist-upgrade, a it is broker09:53
Apallomounting it through fstab09:53
Adydaswhat fixes that api missmatch error for x again?09:53
stephan22222_BluesKaj: can i remove xgl in tis state?09:53
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BluesKajstephan22222_, do you have access to synaptic?09:54
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Apallowhen i try to access it through remote places it tells me that the folder doesn't exist09:54
reldruhApallo: perfect, that's the same way I do it. So your line in fstab looks something like this: //server-name/share-name /mount/point smbfs options=value 0 009:54
stephan22222_BluesKaj, adept & aptitude09:54
reldruhtells you it doesn't exist...09:55
Apalloup to options, yes...09:55
reldruhApallo: that sounds like a problem with samba, not how you're mounting it. If you can't access it over smb:/ then I think you need to look at your smb.conf file09:55
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Apalloit sort of works through fstab...i just can't write to it09:56
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Apalloit's a fat32 patrition, so i shouldnt be having problems with compatibility right?09:56
reldruhOK, then where I put options=value, replace it with fstab=777 or whatever you'd like your permissions to be09:56
reldruhApallo: I'm really not sure, I run a linux-to-linux samba share, ext309:56
stephan22222_its my work pc and i need it tomorrow thats realy annoying09:57
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stephan22222_apt-get install -f stops09:57
stephan22222_any idea??09:57
stephan22222_please09:57
BluesKajstephan22222_, open adept and click on adept/safe upgrade09:57
olliehi, im having trouble re-compiling amarok with mtp support09:57
olliemy libmtp appears to be working ok, as i can do an mtp-detect09:57
olliemake fails with errors09:57
ollieon what looks like the mtp section of the make09:58
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Apallowhere can i find a breakdown of the permissions options?09:58
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sakaneed some quick help....how do i look at what processes are running? i thought there was a GUI i could look at and choose "kill"09:58
ollieman chmod09:58
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ollieps -ef09:59
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parkerw207Is there a channel on here for the ubuntu server addition?09:59
stdin!permissions09:59
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux09:59
olliesaka  ps -ef09:59
stdinparkerw207: #ubuntu-server maybe09:59
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parkerw207thansk stdin09:59
olliesaka: then kill -15 <pid>09:59
parkerw207#ubuntu-server09:59
parkerw207ooops09:59
Apallothanks :)10:00
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sakathx, but there i no way to do it in a GUI type thing?10:00
reldruhApallo: no problem. I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but that's the best I've found. My only request is that if you find a better way, would you please let me know?10:01
|GaiJin|Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server10:01
|GaiJin|Xlib: No protocol specified10:01
|GaiJin|kate: cannot connect to X server :0.010:01
|GaiJin|what does this mean??10:01
eMaXhey10:01
eMaXshort question: does mount -t smbfs require some additional package to be installed?10:01
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reldruheMaX: mount and smbfs (smbfs isn't installed by default in kubuntu10:02
reldruheMaX: if you try, you'll get some weird error message, with a dmesg tail or something10:02
eMaXtnx oh yes just seen it.10:02
reldruheMaX: installing smbfs is the fix for that10:02
eMaXexcellent thank you10:02
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stephan22222_BluesKaj, i could remove some broken packages with adpet10:03
reldruheMaX: no problem; it took me a month to figure that one out. Glad I could help you do it faster :-)10:03
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olliehi, im having trouble re-compiling amarok with mtp support10:03
olliemy libmtp appears to be working ok, as i can do an mtp-detect10:03
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olliemake fails with errors10:03
ollieon what looks like the mtp section of the make10:03
BluesKajstephan22222_, good , do it10:03
BluesKajbetter still , fix them if possible10:04
Apalloi keep getting a permission denied error10:04
Apalloerm, access denied that is10:04
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Apallowill changing the mountpoint do anything?10:05
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birgstef!de10:05
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:05
birgstefhm10:05
sakaI have a process taking up 100% of my cpu and I;d like to find out, is there an app i can open to see how much certain programs are using?10:06
Menaaragonel, are you here10:06
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rob-westcan cedega see .cue files10:06
BluesKajstephan22222_, if you can try to install Synaptic , it has better a system for fixing broken pkges10:07
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Apallo!ubotu ksysguard|saka10:07
ubotusaka: ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB10:07
stdinsaka: you can use top (in a term) or ksysguard10:07
stephan22222_xgl10:07
stephan22222_sorry10:07
stephan22222_sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:08
stephan22222_/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed.10:08
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KaoticEvilanyone here have Beryl running?10:08
Mena hey i will pastebin the config file okay and see plz the monitor section and see if it was rught bec i add the last lines to it can some se it10:08
stdinstephan22222_: make sure you have ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop installed10:08
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sakastdin: you are my hero10:09
stdin:)10:09
argoneldoes adept suck less in feisty?10:10
Menaargonel ,10:10
stdinargonel: it sucks a but less, yeah10:10
Menaargonel , woul you see my config10:11
argonelman, that thing pisses me off10:11
argonelMena: sure, link?10:11
stdinargonel: I never use it10:11
Menaargonel , sec plz10:11
argonelstdin: i used it because i figured i'd give everything kubuntu a shot10:11
argoneltoo bad it just doesn't work10:11
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stdinI use synaptic or apt-get/aptitude10:12
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argoneli just use apt-get and apt-cache10:12
argonelno fancy tools for me :p10:12
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stdindon't want fancy tools? use wget and dpkg :P10:13
argoneldon't get me wrong, i'd use a fancy tool if one existed that actually worked10:13
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stdin(the Red Hat way)10:13
argonelstdin: err, did that for a while, wasn't fun :p10:13
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Menaargonel , http://pastebin.com/89174710:13
stephan22222_BluesKaj, the package (xserver-xorg) is marked BROKEN (upgradable) in adept10:13
argonelstdin: had a system that couldn't be upgraded, had to use snapshot.debian.net and dpkg -i10:13
Menaargonel , i diidnt save yet10:13
stephan22222_Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should10:14
stephan22222_ reinstall it before attempting a removal.10:14
stephan22222_Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should10:14
stephan22222_ reinstall it before attempting a removal.10:14
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stephan22222_but how to do the reinstall?10:15
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stdinstephan22222_: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"10:15
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Mena_argonel , and also if there a way to reset every thing to the normal as i just installed kubuntu for the Xorg bec now i am confused and cant concetrat right on what to do10:17
stephan22222_stdin: next error ist10:18
stephan22222_The following packages have unmet dependencies.10:18
stephan22222_  python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)10:18
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joyriderHi all, I need a program to burn audio cd's from MP3 files, and it should be able to print out covers with track information - artist - title - duration :)10:18
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argonelMena_: well, the way to do that would be to replace the original xorg.conf10:19
Mena_argonel , and if i remove it , it wil lcreat a new one on next login10:20
Mena_will*10:20
tackatjoyrider: k3b+amarok10:20
argonelMena_: it might, i wouldn't guarantee it would work10:20
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Mena_hehehe so10:20
Mena_argonel , is there a command i cat do if it doesnt10:21
tackathttp://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble12.png10:21
Mena_argonel , i will not have a screen then right10:21
argonelMena_: if you don't have a copy of the original, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg10:21
stdinstephan22222_: hmm, that's strange, it shouldn't depend on python2.4-gdbm10:21
joyridertackat: can amarok print out joliets?10:21
Mena_argonel , the orginal is that i last edit it befor10:21
Mena_or another one10:22
Mena_like backupe from first time of using10:22
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argonelMena_: the10:22
stdinstephan22222_: can you post the output of "apt-cache policy python-gdbm" to http://pastebin.ca and post back the url10:22
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argonelMena_: the "original" in this case is the file that was in use before you started editing to add the new refresh rates10:23
tackatjoyrider: I thought it could, but I guess I'm wrong10:23
eMaXshort question: when I change the group id of a group in /etc/group from 1001 to 1003, and then use chgrp to change the group of a given file, it still reflects the old gid. why?10:23
joyridertackat: it can print out covers - but not the covers i need, it's more like a tracklist i need?10:23
Mena_argonel , okay good10:23
Mena_argonel , then after copping10:23
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Mena_argonel , and removing and if it didnt work10:23
Mena_argonel , what command to make it use the copy i have10:24
jhutchinseMaX: Why are you doing this?10:24
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Mena_Sorry for stress on you :D10:24
argonelMena_: cp the-backup xorg.conf10:24
eMaXI want to keep group id's in sync within two operating systems10:24
argonelMena_: unfortunately the pastebin you provided the link to doesn't appear to work10:24
Mena_argonel ,hmmmmm no prob10:25
muuhBDXiCOULD SOME ONE READ MY FORTUNE ?10:26
Mena_argonel, any way i decided to forget it for now10:26
Mena_argonel, its working10:26
argonelMena_: ok :)10:26
Mena_argonel, :) ok10:26
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Mena_argonel, thanks :)10:26
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fost00SALUT QUI EST FRANCAIS ?10:27
stdin!fr10:27
BluesKaj!fr10:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:27
fost00thanks you10:27
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jhutchinseMaX: Try using the numeric gid with chgrp.10:28
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stephan22222_The following packages have unmet dependencies.10:30
stephan22222_  python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)10:30
stephan22222_could someone explain my this?10:30
stephan22222_is it possible that my sources.list is broken?10:33
stephan22222_where can i get a working one?10:33
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stephan22222_in which repository ist python2.4-gdbm ?10:33
Mena_stephan22222, are you edgy10:34
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Foggei think i have a problem with encoding in Konversation, where do i make settings for utf/iso?10:34
argonelFogge: you can set it per channel, right click on the tab (or line in the treelist)10:35
SolidSourcequestion: Kontact or Thunderbird?10:35
argonelFogge: you can also set an encoding per identity10:35
Foggebut its iso 8859-1 on all channels, and yet my swedish characters arent working10:36
argonelFogge: aren't working in what way?10:36
stdinSolidSource: I like Thunderbird more, but it's GTK so your choice10:36
Foggethey show up as little squares on my monitor, and they arent recieved properly by other people10:37
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SolidSourcestdin: dpm10:37
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SolidSourcestdin: hmm GTK have a bug or something?10:38
argonelFogge: if there is another konversation user, find out what encoding they're using10:38
argonelFogge: each channel often has its own "rules"10:38
stdinSolidSource: no, but it means you hake to install all the GTK libs, because Kubuntu (KDE) uses Qt10:38
FoggeBut the problem persists in every channel10:39
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SolidSourcestdin: hmm, I use other GTK programs, so already have it anyway10:39
argonelFogge: sadly, i can't help you as well as others might, i'm Canadian and so don't use extended characters much ;p10:39
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FoggeI figured that would be a problem, and most people in Ubuntu-se dont use Konversation :)10:40
stdinSolidSource: then you don't have a problem :P Thunderbird is nice10:40
argonelFogge: try utf-810:40
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FoggeProblem persists, already tried.10:40
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KaoticEvilhey... anyone care to try lending me a hand?10:40
argonelFogge: join #konversation10:40
stdinFogge: you can ask in #kunversation too10:41
KaoticEvili installed the binary driver form nvidia, and now when my computer boots, KDM doesnt start10:41
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beg1689hey guys10:41
KaoticEvili have to login and then manually start X10:41
beg1689i need help with my network settings10:41
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Cugelbeg: uh oh.10:41
beg1689im trying to get a static IP (192.168.1.2) but if i use the kde contrl center to set it, and click apply, it goes right back10:41
beg1689wired network* dot worry10:41
muuhBDXiis kubuntu less popular that ubuntu ?10:42
beg1689yes10:42
muuhBDXiehy ?10:42
muuhBDXiwhy ?10:42
beg1689but kubuntu is ubuntu10:42
CugelWell KDE is popular enough.10:42
CugelI think they're about as popular. Any stats on that?10:42
beg1689yea part of the reason is because kubuntu, xubuntu, etc ARE ubuntu10:42
muuhBDXieniuhg ?10:42
SolidSourcestdin: well the real questiion was if there was any benefit of thunderbird over kmail/kontact10:42
muuhBDXienough ?10:42
beg1689i prefer kde10:43
CugelI like Thunderbird, but I was used to it on Windows. It's an excellent e-mail client.10:43
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stdinSolidSource: I have found kamil to be a bit buggy, not so much with TBird10:43
beg1689actually i like e1710:43
stdin*kmail10:43
BluesKajCugel, t-bird rocks in kubuntu as well10:43
beg1689but i cant get everything to work right with it10:43
beg1689maybe when the final version comes out10:43
beg1689but by that time kde4 will be out, so itll still be a tough choice10:44
cpk1I like kmail; kontact is a nice little client10:44
CugelBlues: agreed. And automatic forwarding (filtering) actually worked, which it didn't on Windows. But please stay on-topic.10:44
jhutchinsbeg1689: Final version? Of what?10:44
beg1689e1710:44
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CugelJust a question: what on earth is the purpose of the wallet in Kubuntu? It just annoyed the hell out of me every time it opened. I got rid of it in the end.10:44
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jhutchinsThat's the wonderful thing about OS software, there never is a final version.10:44
bart__hi there10:45
beg1689there is a final version10:45
CugelHi bart.10:45
bart__im a new ubuntu user, and i would like to connect to quakenet :'(10:45
beg1689not in the since that its the *last* version10:45
beg1689maybe i mean realease version10:45
Cugelbart: doesn't work? Strange if your network is okay.10:45
beg1689i want the final release version10:45
beg1689its alpha right now10:45
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bart__nah10:46
bart__i just dont know how to connect to it :P10:46
stephan22222_he following packages have unmet dependencies.10:46
stephan22222_  python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)10:46
stephan22222_E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).10:46
bart__im an irc newb10:46
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bart__i can work with mirc10:46
ErtainMight anyone help me with my Wacom tablet?  Every time I boot up my tablet is recognized as a mouse.  I did change the udev rules for my Wacom tablet to load before my mouse, but it still doesn't work properly.  When I try it in Gimp it doesn't see my tablet.  I have a Graphire 4 tablet.  Any ideas?10:46
Cugelbeg: edit the source and add the word "FINAL, 1.0, created by beg1689!!!' to all popup windows.10:46
stephan22222_this is crazy10:46
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beg1689anyway... back to my problem10:46
KaoticEvilok, whats goin on here?10:46
Cugelbart: no problem.10:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:46
beg1689i want to change my local network connection from dhcp to static10:46
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stephan22222_how is it possible the python2.4-gdbm has unmet dependencies?10:47
Cugelbeg: go to system settings and network, you can change it therre.10:47
beg1689if i go to the control center, under network settings10:47
beg1689it doesnt work10:47
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bart__Cugel10:47
bart__i think i fixed it :'(10:47
bart__hehe10:47
CugelIt doesn't? Well you have to be root.10:47
bart__should have looked myself first10:47
beg1689i click administrator, open the local netowrk, change ip to 192.168.1.2, click apply, and it just goes back to dhcp10:47
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CugelOkay, good for you.10:47
bart__i got it to work10:47
bart__i dont udnerstand the root thing yet10:47
bart__ill get to that later10:48
Cugelbeg: that is weird.10:48
beg1689oh wait10:48
SolidSourcestdin: you use gmail...cause thunderbird not downloading mail10:48
KaoticEvili dont have any window decorations in Beryl :(10:48
beg1689maybe i need to close the connection first?10:48
beg1689i thought thats something it would do for me10:48
stdinSolidSource: have you set gmail to enable pop, in the settings? works fine here10:48
beg1689yea gmail works fine here10:48
beg1689although i like the webbased way better10:49
beg1689pop3 grabs all the spam and stuff10:49
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stdinbeg1689: not on mine, the spam folder isn't downloaded10:49
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beg1689acutally no i think it just grabbed archived stuff10:49
SolidSourceyeah, followed the instructions on gmails site10:49
beg1689like if i archived unread stuff it grabbed it10:49
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beg1689ok so im going to try my network again10:50
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beg1689what the hell10:50
beg1689i click eth0, make sure it says manual, enter the ip and gateway address10:51
beg1689and click apply10:51
beg1689then it is back to 192.168.1.14110:51
beg1689instead of .210:51
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beg1689i tried disabling it, changing settings and applying, but i get the same result10:51
fost00!fr10:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:51
stdinSolidSource: make sure you have the right settings, Server Name: pop.gmail.com, Port: 995, User Name: user@gmail.com, use SSL10:52
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SolidSourcestdin: did10:52
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stdinbeg1689: can you post /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin?10:52
beg1689oh maybe NetoworkManager is hogging my net info10:52
Mena_What is good about using rpm pacages10:53
beg1689nothing10:53
stdin^ *at all10:53
stdinSolidSource: check again that you turned pop on in gmail settings10:53
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SolidSourcestdin: cause it works in kontact10:54
beg1689stdin: that file says the right info10:54
beg1689im gon na try resetting the connection again10:54
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stdinbeg1689: try "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" in konsole (if eth0 is the right interface)10:54
stdinSolidSource: strange, it's working fine for me, do you have any funky firewall rules ?10:55
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avalon_Can someone help me get sound in firefox flash? I can't get it to work even after downloading and changing the sound to aoss10:55
vamp898Hi, i want to use Kubuntu on a friends PC with ISDN, but i did not find any programm for ISDN using :(10:55
SolidSourcestdin: nope...firewall is turned off10:56
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vamp898is any programm preinstalled on Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy to use ISDN? KPPP Maybe10:56
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fignewvamp898: is it installed already?10:56
vamp898no10:57
BluesKajavalon_, make sure you have the flash FF plugin ... type in the FF addressbar 'about:plugins'10:57
vamp898beceause im not sure that ISDN is working10:57
fignewok, try using the alternative install CD10:57
vamp898you meen Desktop CD10:57
fignewalternative, it still installs the normal packages10:57
vamp898but with wich programm i have to use the ISDN?10:58
vamp898on SuSE i used YaST10:58
avalon_I have shockwave flash... shouldn't that be adobe?10:58
fignewKPPP10:58
stdinavalon_: adobe and shockwave are the same company10:58
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vamp898kk thx10:59
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vamp898thats all i wanted10:59
vamp898good n810:59
fignew:)10:59
avalon_So the shockwave flash does work. Then how do I get sound?10:59
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vamp898its now 11 pm in germany and i have to go to shool tommorow10:59
vamp898im writing a test and have to learn :D10:59
fignewwhat school?10:59
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fignewgynasium?10:59
fignew^spelling?10:59
vamp898are you german?10:59
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vamp898fignew: do you speak german?11:00
fignewein bischen, Ich can Deuch sprechen, aber nicht gut schrieben11:00
beg1689ok... full system restart fixed it11:00
fignewDeutsch*11:00
BluesKaj!de11:00
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:00
beg1689now i have a question: where is mplayer?11:00
jhutchins!mplayer11:00
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs11:00
vamp898ich geh auf ne Berufsschule, damit holt man den Realschul abschluss sozusagen nach + lernt alles Kaufmnnische (buchhaltung)i try to say this in german :D its to reget the "Realschulabschluss" and i learn how work is in a firm and learn to work with finances an something else11:01
stdin!de11:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:01
rob-westhow do i install glib2.011:01
vamp898*englisch not german11:01
FoggeThanks for your efforts tho, argonel :)11:01
vamp898apt-get install glib11:01
BluesKajbeg1689, for the FF mplayer plugin : http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/11:01
fignewlol @ !de11:02
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vamp898fignew: did you understand?11:02
fignewyep :)11:02
vamp898fine^^11:02
beg1689i have all the repos checked but i dont see mplayer11:02
vamp898n811:02
vamp898Gute nacht :D11:02
fignewsee ya11:02
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rob-westwont work11:02
Mena_!ubotu11:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:03
Mena_!hi11:03
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:03
Mena_~ping11:03
jhutchinsbeg1689: Maybe you need to update the packaeg lists?  I'm not that familiar with the GUI, I use apt.11:03
Mena_!ping11:03
ubotupong11:03
beg1689hmm11:03
BluesKaj!codecs11:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:03
beg1689only one of them says multiverse after it, thats probly the problem11:04
jhutchinstry just "sudo apt-get install mplayer" in the konsole.11:04
megamacedHi, does anyone know how to reset the configuration of the system tray so that the icons in it are sorted in two rows?11:04
jhutchins!easysource11:04
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:04
SolidSourcestdin: hmm don't know why thunderbird isn't working settings are all correct11:05
BluesKajmegamaced, right click on the desktop ...icons11:05
stephan22222_wow11:05
stephan22222_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/5842411:05
stephan22222_seams to be my problem11:06
stdinSolidSource: I don't know either, those are the settings I use, and it works here11:06
beg1689i got it, just added multiverse to all the repos11:06
megamacedBluesKaj; thanks, but I meant the icons in the system tray!11:07
BluesKajthen configurepanel11:08
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megamacedThey are supposed to appear in two rows but they are only appearing in one and taking up too much space11:08
NightBirdhow can I check to see if my microphone is working right?11:09
NightBirdwhat program should I use?11:09
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cpk1NightBird: krec?11:09
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NightBirdthere are so many random programs available for linux...11:10
NightBirdit's great11:10
kyle__Hiya quick question.  Why would apt-get (and adept) be looking for sources I'm certain are NOT on the /etc/apt/sources.list file?11:10
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SolidSourcestdin: oh I see why...thunderbird only wanted new messages and there were none in my box11:11
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stdinSolidSource: ahh :P11:11
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stdinkyle__: huh?11:12
kyle__Is there something about the sources.list I don't understand?  I've removed most everyhting from it and whenever I do an update the list is HUGE and it gets hung on one particular connection.11:12
Mena_!ar11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
stdinkyle__: check if there is anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/11:13
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kyle__stdin:  there sure is!  that's added to the download list?11:13
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stdinkyle__: any file in there ending in .list is treated as another sources.list11:14
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kyle__Thanks so much!  That solves most of my problem right there.  Appreciate your help.11:15
stdinno problem :)11:15
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Mena_i want to edit the channel list11:15
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jhutchinskyle__: You realize that there are some 20,000+ pacakages availble for kubuntu?11:16
jhutchinsMena_: channel list?11:16
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Mena_yes which i choose for it the channel to coencet11:17
Mena_conect*11:17
Mena_from*11:17
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Mena_maybe i will open the config file if i can edit it11:18
kyle__jhutchins: Yea.  Easyubuntu had put an additional list in sources.list.d that I wasn't aware of, which was my problem right htere.11:18
stdinMena_: you mean what channels you auto join?11:18
stephan22222_please, can some one look at http://rafb.net/p/MH711595.html11:18
stdinMena_: in konversation?11:18
Mena_no the channels are saved bec i also i want to save them11:18
stephan22222_and tell me where my dependey hell is comming from,? (http://rafb.net/p/MH711595.html=11:18
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stephan22222_my system is totaly broken11:19
kyle__Thanks for your help, have a nice evening.11:19
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Mena_stephan, why sying that11:19
Mena_saying*11:19
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Mena_dont worry you are on the support channel11:19
Mena_:)11:19
stephan22222_some important repositzory is missing and i can't find out which11:19
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stephan22222_its my work pc and i need it working tomorrow11:20
stephan22222_i updated form 6.06 to 6.1011:20
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Mena_hey go here and tell us if you can do any thing http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/11:21
Mena_its a generator11:21
Mena_lets go back to my point is there a way i can save the list of channles11:21
Mena_:-(11:22
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stdinMena_: in konversation, there is a "Save list" button11:22
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Mena_stdin realy11:23
Mena_will see11:23
stdinMena_: F5, you'll see it at the bottom11:23
Mena_ok11:23
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stephan22222_i generate a new souces.list11:24
stephan22222_it downloads new packages11:25
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Mena_stephan22222, so its working11:26
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Mena_stephan22222, but be sure that you choose what you want11:26
stephan22222_Mena_: i think i downloaded these packes before ...11:26
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stephan22222_again broken11:27
stephan22222_dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):11:27
stephan22222_ Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should11:27
stephan22222_ reinstall it before attempting a removal.11:27
Mena_stephan22222, So you take the list you had on the page and then paste it on the source list instead of it11:27
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Mena_stephan22222, i dont know maybe its bbroken do this sudo apt-get check11:28
stephan22222_Mena_: yes11:28
Mena_stephan22222, ok11:28
Mena_stephan22222, make check11:28
Mena_stephan22222, sudo apt-get check11:29
stephan22222_Mena_: the ceck output is veeery ling11:29
Mena_is there a something with -f install11:29
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stephan22222_Mena_: i pasted it here11:29
stephan22222_http://rafb.net/p/xXUj8E39.htm11:29
Mena_stephan22222, ok11:29
stephan22222_to not spam th channel11:29
Mena_ok good11:29
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Mena_Error 404 - Not Found11:30
Mena_plz check again11:30
Mena_and also paste your source list11:30
stephan22222_the soureces11:32
stephan22222_http://rafb.net/p/SauBrX10.html11:32
Mena_stephan22222,ok11:32
stephan22222_Mena_: any idea?11:33
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Mena_stephan22222, the source list looks good11:34
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Mena_stephan22222, do this11:34
Mena_gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY11:34
Mena_gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -11:34
Mena_in terminal11:34
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stephan22222_Mena_: shouldn't it work without the KEYs?11:35
Mena_stdin, its ays if there errors11:36
Mena_soorry not you11:36
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Mena_stephan22222, if its sying erros and also its good not bad11:36
Mena_ sudo apt-get -f install11:36
Mena_DO THSI COMMAND11:36
Mena_this*11:37
Mena_stephan22222, what happened11:38
stephan22222_output ist very long again, Mena_11:38
stephan22222_http://rafb.net/p/fBIeb896.html11:38
Mena_ok11:38
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stephan22222_Preconfiguring packages ...11:38
stephan22222_dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):11:38
stephan22222_ Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should11:38
stephan22222_ reinstall it before attempting a removal.11:38
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Mena_stephan22222, you just upgraded to to 6.10 right11:39
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Mena_stephan22222, with out any update for it11:39
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Mena_stephan22222, wright11:40
Mena_right*11:40
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stephan22222_Mena_: the security updated11:40
stephan22222_and so on11:40
Mena_stephan22222, okay plz check again to kae usre11:41
Mena_sure*11:41
stephan22222_Mena_: what should i check?11:41
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SolidSourcestdin: can't find the setting in thunderbird to allow it to download older messages, you know where?11:41
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Mena_the update with terminal do sudo apt-get update then after that sudo apt-get upgrade11:42
stdinSolidSource: I'll look11:42
Mena_stephan22222, and lit it makes upgrade if nedeed11:42
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Mena_stephan22222, then the problem with xserever wil see that11:42
Mena_stephan22222,ok?11:42
stdinSolidSource: it's in the gmail settings, not TBird11:43
stdinSolidSource: choose "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)"11:44
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Mena_stephan22222, is it upgrading11:44
SolidSourcestdin: ah, thought I did that....and now to figure out that how to get Tbird to group messages like gmail, probably can't though11:45
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stdinSolidSource: no, it can do threads, but not quite like gmail, tho you can set mail rules to do something similar11:46
Mena_stephan22222_, what happned11:46
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SolidSourcestdin: yeah, still gonna look to see if there is extension..out of hope11:47
stdinmaybe11:47
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stephan22222_Mena_: upgrade says11:48
stephan22222_The following packages have unmet dependencies.11:48
stephan22222_  amarok: Depends: libgl1-mesaor11:48
stephan22222_                   libgl111:48
stephan22222_  beryl-core: Depends: libgl1-mesaor11:48
stephan22222_                       libgl1-mesa-gl11:48
stephan22222_and so on ....11:48
Mena_stephan22222_, ok11:48
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SolidSourcestdin: you can do threads in Tbird11:49
Mena_stephan22222_, after it finised11:50
Mena_stephan22222_, do thsi again11:50
Mena_stephan22222_, sudo apt-get check11:50
Mena_stephan22222_, if nothing wrong11:50
Mena_stephan22222_, do this also sudo apt-get clean11:50
stdinSolidSource: yeah, that's what I said11:50
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Mena_to clean up the packages sources wich are on you hard and you dont nedd them11:51
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stephan22222_check says same as before11:51
SolidSourcestdin: oh misread, thought it said "can't" for some reason11:51
stephan22222_Mena_: should i try to clean now?11:51
Mena_stephan22222_, hmmm11:51
DragonhorseDo anybody know when xorg 7.2 will be in edgy?11:52
Mena_stephan22222_, not very sure for now11:52
stdinDragonhorse: ask in #ubuntu-devel11:52
Dragonhorsestdin ok, thanks11:52
Mena_stephan22222_, hmmm what is the problem with this xorg11:53
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stephan22222_Mena_: there was noe problem before updating11:53
Mena_stephan22222_, hm11:54
Mena_take the list i will send you now11:54
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Mena_okay11:54
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Mena_then make autoremove to remove un needed packages11:55
Mena_stephan22222_, take the list and then delet the one you had and copy past it instead11:55
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Mena_i mean the lines on the one you have11:56
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stephan22222_Mena_: autoremove?11:57
Mena_stephan22222_ , not yet for now11:57
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Mena_stephan22222_ , take the list i gave you11:57
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Mena_stephan22222_ , sec plz11:58
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stephan22222_yes11:58
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coreymon77hi guys11:58
coreymon77urgent11:58
coreymon77ive got an emergency11:58
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coreymon77i try to boot kubuntu and it gives me something about my filesystem not being clean and then recovering journal and stuff like that11:59
Mena_stephan22222_ , http://rafb.net/p/pZJAFk64.html11:59
coreymon77and then just stays like that11:59
Mena_stephan22222_ , copy all11:59
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coreymon77how do i fix my system11:59
Mena_stephan22222_ , and past it in you source lit but first remove all you have11:59
Mena_stephan22222_ , ok12:00
Mena_this have every thing you need12:00
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stephan22222_ok, i remove my, an take only the new generate one?12:00
Mena_stephan22222_ , yes copy the one i give you12:00
Mena_stephan22222_ , and paste12:01
Mena_into the source.list12:01
coreymon77can someone help me12:01
coreymon77?12:01
Mena_!fsck12:01
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot12:01
Mena_stephan22222_ , okay12:02
Mena_stephan22222_ , then save it and then make sudo apt-get autoremove12:02
coreymon77my computer automatically ran fsck12:03
Mena_that will remove all app installed and you need then12:03
coreymon77but it stayed that way all day12:03
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Mena_coreymon77, see thsis might help http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup12:04
Mena_stephan22222_ , what is happening now12:04
stephan22222_Mena_: just running update12:04
Mena_stephan22222_ , okay12:04
stephan22222_sudo apt-get autoremove12:05
stephan22222_E: Invalid operation autoremove12:05
stephan22222_autoclean12:05
Mena_stephan22222_ , sec plz we must first remove app you dont need ok12:05
coreymon77what i need is to rescue a corrupted filesystem12:05
coreymon77how do i do that12:06
Mena_stephan22222_ , its telling you autoclean12:06
Mena_if do it12:06
rob-westcan i set kontact to auto check my email12:06
rob-westor no12:06
stephan22222_Mena_: to late a ran autoclean12:06
stephan22222_http://rafb.net/p/iqz3Ma59.html12:06
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Mena_stephan22222_ , okay good12:07
yaccin!herd512:07
ubotuherd5 is coming out very soon - change this note when it does ;)12:07
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Mena_stephan22222_ , then try  sudo apt-get autoremove12:08
Mena_stephan22222_ , the command is right12:08
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Mena_stephan22222_ , must work12:08
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stephan22222_stephan@hongkong:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get autoremove12:08
stephan22222_E: Invalid operation autoremove12:08
rob-westcan i set kmail to auto check my email12:08
Mena_stephan22222_ , okay you make update then upgrade12:09
Mena_stephan22222_ , now what you wont install12:09
Mena_stephan22222_ , to *12:09
Mena_stephan22222_ , with the list every thing must go fine12:09
Mena_stephan22222_ , bec i use this list12:10
stephan22222_Mena_: autoremove does not work.12:10
Mena_stephan22222_ , okay12:10
coreymon77how do i repair my file system?12:10
stephan22222_ E: Invalid operation autoremove12:10
Mena_stephan22222_ , ohh carp ... okay okay12:10
Mena_stephan22222_ , you have the list befor12:11
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Mena_stephan22222_ , right12:11
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Mena_stephan22222_ , http://rafb.net/p/SauBrX10.html12:11
Mena_stephan22222_ , we will do a thing one more time12:12
Mena_stephan22222_ , use this list for now just now and make then make autoremove12:12
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jarnIs there a way to reverse the stereo channels?12:12
DragonhorseWhy GTK-based programs sitting in the tray get gray background for icon in tray even if they have transparent background?12:12
Mena_stephan22222_ , to remoe packages install with thi slist hope so12:13
Mena_stephan22222_ , ok12:13
coreymon77can i have some help here, this is quite an emergency here12:13
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Mena_coreymon77, ask stdin12:13
stephan22222_Mena_: i copy the lsit to my sytem, do apt-get udpate, apt-get autoremove12:13
Mena_coreymon77, mayebe he know12:13
stephan22222_reigt?12:13
coreymon77stdin: are you there?12:13

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