[12:14] <Mattjc> I am running asterisk on a ubuntu and would like to know the best way to get ubuntu to start automatically not get stuck on login
[12:14] <argonel> I-kido: x started, but its in 8-bit colour again
[12:15] <I-kido> argonel, and when u set default depth to 24 in xorg.conf
[12:15] <argonel> I-kido: i'll check the conf, i did choose 24 as the default depth via dpkg-reconfigure
[12:15] <Mattjc> no love from anyone
[12:15] <I-kido> aha
[12:16] <argonel> i wish kubuntu had kinfocenter
[12:16] <I-kido> argonel it has
[12:17] <I-kido> :0
[12:17] <argonel|kub> tired of walking from room to room :)
[12:18] <I-kido> lol
[12:18] <I-kido> argonel: Meny>System
[12:18] <argonel|kub> so i found kinfocenter
[12:18] <I-kido> Menu*
[12:18] <argonel|kub> it says 89x87 dpi 24 planes
[12:19] <argonel|kub> does not explain why the desktop picture looks like its in 256 colour mode
[12:20] <I-kido> argonel pastebin ur xorg.conf please
[12:22] <argonel|kub> I-kido: http://phpfi.com/209947
[12:22] <I-kido> tnx argonel
[12:23] <crackhead> question: how do i install/use firefox, when adept says it's already "installed", but it shows up as greyed out in the "add/remove programs" of the k-menu?
[12:23] <skywalker_> omg
[12:23] <I-kido> argonel try 1280x1024 instead of "1440x900"
[12:24] <argonel|kub> I-kido: to what end?
[12:24] <I-kido> look in your xorg.conf :)
[12:24] <crystufer2000> Hey, is there a program I can run to autoconfigure my menu for fluxbox?
[12:24] <skywalker_> how do I completely remove wine
[12:24] <argonel|kub> firstly, i don't have 1280x1024 in there at all, so i'd have to add it
[12:25] <SlackRat> use synaptic, option completely remove
[12:25] <Jucato> crackhead: if Firefox is installed, it should be in K Menu -> Internet
[12:25] <daft_> anyone know what the message "compiz: GLX_SGIX_fbconfig is missing" means?
[12:25] <argonel|kub> secondly, the aspect ratio is incorrect for this monitor
[12:25] <posingaspopular> argonel|kub: its not x
[12:25] <Jucato> skywalker_: if you uninstall wine, the ~/.wine directory still hangs around. you probably want to delete that if you're absolutely sure
[12:25] <posingaspopular> X ?
[12:26] <I-kido> argonel replace  "1440x900" by 1280x1024
[12:26] <argonel|kub> posingaspopular: i'm sorry, what?
[12:26] <argonel|kub> I-kido: for what purpose?
[12:26] <skywalker_> ok so it is uninstalled
[12:26] <I-kido> maybe ur monitor/driver can't handle 1440
[12:27] <I-kido> argonel  ^^
[12:27] <argonel|kub> I-kido: i should mention this setup was working for several months, until one day it stopped
[12:27] <skywalker_> I just reinstalled it anyway because one of my windows programe
[12:27] <argonel|kub> this is not mine, so the details are sketchy as to exactly why
[12:27] <posingaspopular> argonel|kub: you cant configure your aspect ratio in X?
[12:27] <skywalker_> wasent working right
[12:28] <argonel|kub> posingaspopular: the displayed aspect ratio is a function of your chosen resolution
[12:28] <I-kido> hmm, ok, argonel, maybe after a kernel update, u forgot to reinstall your graphics driver
[12:28] <argonel|kub> I-kido: i didn't do a kernel update, the machine's owner doesn't know how
[12:29] <influence> any good idea why Xorg is taking alot of CPU even though I have removed compiz?
[12:29] <crackhead> jucato: firefox is not in k-menu-->internet.. what should i do? (adept said it was "installed" when i searched for it there..)
[12:29] <argonel|kub> I-kido: even stranger, sometimes if i restart the xserver the display returns to normal. if it doesn't though, it gets stuck in 640x480x256 :)
[12:29] <Jucato> crackhead: try "sudo apt-get install firefox" in Konsole
[12:30] <crackhead> why am i trying it there, rather than adept?
[12:30] <I-kido> argonel, tis is too complicated for  a noob like me
[12:30] <I-kido> :0
[12:30] <Jucato> crackhead: to get more detailed error messages
[12:30] <Jucato> crackhead: or rather, if you want. just type in "firefox"
[12:30] <crackhead> package.. not available.. referred by another package..
[12:30] <Jucato> to check if it's really installed
[12:31] <Jucato> hm..
[12:31] <crackhead> command not found
[12:31] <Jucato> so it's not installed...
[12:31] <crackhead> so, how do i install it?
[12:31] <Jucato> crackhead: please check if you have your repositories enabled. specially the main ones
[12:31] <Jucato> !repositories | crackhead
[12:31] <crackhead> where? in adept?
[12:31] <ubotu> crackhead: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:32] <Jucato> yep, if you want to work in Adept.
[12:32] <crackhead> how come i had enabled them in another kde session and now they're not still enabled and i have to re-enable them?
[12:33] <Jucato> um.. I don't know...
[12:34] <goear> Hey, I have a little problem, I dont get the whole package list or at least I think so, when Im on my other computer running kubuntu I get much more packages, maybe because there are more for that distrib.. Im not sure.
[12:34] <goear> anyone knows why it is?
[12:34] <gugu^> HELP to install Canon LBP-810
[12:34] <Jucato> goear: it means you don't have some of your repositories enabled. so you don't have access to other packages
[12:34] <Jucato> !repositories | goear
[12:34] <ubotu> goear: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:35] <crackhead> im looking at firefox in adept. it shows it installed--possibly in ubuntu, but i am running kubuntu..?
[12:35] <CaBlGuY> !mp3
[12:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <goear> ubotu thats for kubuntu, what for ubuntu? how can I enable repositories in Ubuntu?
[12:36] <Jucato> !ubotu | goear
[12:36] <ubotu> goear: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:36] <goear> lol I just spoke to a bot, Im idiot
[12:36] <Jucato> goear: well, this is #kubuntu... so  it will give answers for Kubuntu (most of the time)
[12:37] <crackhead> when im in adept, and i look at installed mozilla things, when i go to uninstall mozilla, it shows uninstalling a metapackage english language as well? will this harm the rest of my kubuntu?
[12:38] <Jucato> !info mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[12:38] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb: Mozilla Firefox English language/region package. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0~rc3ubuntu1-1 (edgy), package size 169 kB, installed size 740 kB
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> ok, for some reason I'm getting a "converting files failed" when I try to burn an audio CD form MP3 files..   worked b4 this time..  what gives?  Anyone know??
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> Oh..  I'm using serpentine
[12:40] <Jucato> hm.. #ubuntu guys would know
[12:40] <I-kido> serpentine is a ripper ?
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> no..
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> it's an audio CD burning app
[12:40] <I-kido> hmm
[12:40] <Jucato> !info serpentine
[12:40] <ubotu> serpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB
[12:40] <I-kido> I got k3b
[12:40] <yaccin> 3 k3b
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> can't use K3b eather..  get the same error..  somehting has heppened when I did an update or somethin..
[12:41] <crystufer2000> !pastebin
[12:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:41] <Jucato> CaBlGuY: you need libk3b2-mp3 for K3b to burn mp3's to audio cd
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> !codecs
[12:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <CaBlGuY> Jucato:  while that codec work with serpentine as well?
[12:42] <Jucato> CaBlGuY: nope. it's libk3b2-mp3... for k3b :)
[12:42] <CaBlGuY> K, lookin it up now..
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> K, seems to b workin..  thanks Jucato  :)
[12:44] <SlackRat> hola jucato... :D
[12:44] <Jucato> hi SlackRat
[12:44] <skywalker_> are you realy the cable guy\
[12:44] <Jucato> O.o
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> *rolls eyes*
[12:44] <eilker> cant i open *.wmv files in kubuntu ?
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> no silly...   it's my nick form like wwaaaaaaaaaayyyyy    back in the day..
[12:45] <ubuntu> holas
[12:45] <skywalker_> mmm
[12:45] <SlackRat> ubuntu, hows the dual boot?
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> eilker:  yes..  DL codecs..
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> or.. u can install VCD
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> !vcd
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> ummmmm
[12:45] <eilker> !codec
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <skywalker_> ahaha
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> !vcd media player
[12:46] <eilker> !vlc
[12:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> err.. yea that too..
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[12:46] <eilker> !codecs
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <eilker> :)
[12:48] <SlackRat> ubuntu, everything work as planned?
[12:51] <CaBlGuY> ok, is there somethin else I need to install to be able to normalize the tracks?
[01:02] <mythtv> genii: how *are* u? heard u've been very sick
[01:04] <neptunepink> what's the command for when dpkg chrases?
[01:06] <Jucato> !adeptfix | neptunepink
[01:06] <ubotu> neptunepink: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:07] <eilker>  i wanna record my desktop as a video file, how can i do it with vlc player ?or with any other tool ?
[01:09] <zblach> quick question. i've a whole bunch of files nested in folders where the files have the same names, but different folders
[01:09] <zblach> can i remove the files only?
[01:10] <SlackRat> biab
[01:11] <arcasa> Hey all.
[01:12] <arcasa> Morning, evening or night.
[01:12] <Minataku> zblach: I believe you can do this: " rm */* "
[01:12] <Minataku> Which should delete files and leave directories intact
[01:12] <Minataku> Of course if you need to go deeper just add another /*
[01:13] <Minataku> If you don't want to delete the files in the base directory use " rm ./*/* " and so on
[01:13] <arcasa> Ouch... The power of conversation appears to have no effect!
[01:13] <Minataku> arcasa: Your IRQ was deferred
[01:13] <Minataku> lol
[01:13] <zblach> Minataku: there's a whole bunch of nesting
[01:13] <zblach> but i have decided on a solution
[01:13] <Minataku> zblach: Do it for as deep as you need
[01:13] <zblach> variable depth :S
[01:13] <zblach> but i do have a solution
[01:13] <Minataku> Then step back one by one
[01:13] <arcasa> My IRQ? :(
[01:13] <zblach> tree -fi | grep FILENAME > delete
[01:14] <zblach> and the del everything in delete
[01:14] <zblach> thanks anyways
[01:14] <Hirvinen> zblach, Minataku: If you only want to do something to files, you should use find . -type f -exec
[01:14] <Minataku> My method works too, I've done it before
[01:14] <Minataku> Since without -f, rm won't delete directories
[01:14] <Hirvinen> Or use xargs to pass that list of files to a program.
[01:15] <zblach> Hirvinen: that's also good
[01:15] <eilker> !kiba
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <zblach> rm can't read from a file, it seems
[01:17] <Jucato> sayonara, Minataku-san!
[01:17] <eilker> anyone using xgl+kiba-dock ?
[01:19] <eilker> !kiba-dock
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <yaccin> eilker: i used aiglx and kibadock
[01:19] <yaccin> but atm im using avant-window-navigator
[01:19] <yaccin> i like it more then kiba dock
[01:20] <eilker> do u know a how-to for avant-window-navigator ?
[01:20] <eilker> !avant
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <yaccin> forum.beryl-projects.org
[01:21] <yaccin> ^^
[01:21] <yaccin> its in trevis repo
[01:21] <eilker> let me try :)
[01:21] <eilker> is it fantastic ?
[01:23] <hawk_> i have two windows partions that i would like to mount how would i go about doing that i have allready installed the ntfs drivers but i just dont know how i can mount them
[01:24] <posingaspopular> !mount
[01:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:25] <hawk_> where do i find diskmounter at
[01:25] <hawk_> fstab
[01:25] <hawk_> soryy
[01:26] <posingaspopular> !fstab
[01:26] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:26] <posingaspopular> hawk_: open a konsole
[01:26] <Rob-West> im back to kubuntu
[01:26] <Rob-West> :)
[01:26] <hawk_> ok
[01:26] <posingaspopular> and type fstab
[01:26] <posingaspopular> Rob-West: awesome
[01:26] <Rob-West> so dont disown me
[01:26] <hawk_> it not working
[01:27] <hawk_> command not found
[01:27] <posingaspopular> erm
[01:27] <Rob-West> kubuntu is nice
[01:27] <neptunepink> "sudo nano /etc/fstab" :)
[01:28] <Rob-West> dunno why i left it
[01:28] <posingaspopular> neptunepink: thanks i always for the nano
[01:28] <prak> does anyone know how to see and install individual packages separately in konsole?
[01:28] <posingaspopular> what does nano do?
[01:28] <Rob-West> its a text editor
[01:28] <zblach> posingaspopular: it's a text editor
[01:28] <Jucato> prak: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[01:28] <zblach> prak: sudo apt-get install package
[01:28] <hawk_> k i have it up now what? thank you
[01:28] <zblach> can i iterate through a file to rm?
[01:29] <zblach> 'rm all files listed in this document'
[01:29] <posingaspopular> coolness i have school, talk/help/ask for help to everyone later
[01:29] <epimeth> ahoy folks!
[01:30] <epimeth> what packages do I need for apache2 with php and curl (don't need or want mysql)?
[01:30] <epimeth> apache2-mod-php ?
[01:30] <zblach> do you really want curl?
[01:30] <epimeth> something like that, right?
[01:30] <epimeth> yes
[01:31] <epimeth> not want... need
[01:31] <epimeth> :-)
[01:31] <zblach> kk
[01:31] <epimeth> tho I'm pretty sure curl comes with the regular php, no?
[01:32] <Rob-West> i even an use my new video card
[01:32] <hawk_> what would the mount command i have mounted them before it just says i dont have access to them
[01:32] <Rob-West> it may be old but its still good for basic kubuntu
[01:32] <Rob-West> what r html editors
[01:32] <Rob-West> how do they work
[01:33] <hawk_> !DiskMounter
[01:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:33] <epimeth> Rob-West: I'm not sure I understand your question... do you mean a wysiwyg?
[01:33] <epimeth> zblach: you still with me?
[01:33] <Rob-West> !htmleditors
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htmleditors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <hawk_> nvm thanks should have looked closer at what you said befor
[01:33] <zblach> epimeth: i'm here
[01:33] <hawk_> *before
[01:34] <zblach> i know nothing about php
[01:34] <zblach> i was just reading an article about how insecure curl was
[01:34] <zblach> and the name drew my attention
[01:34] <hawk_> what do you need to know about php
[01:35] <epimeth> hawk_: just what the package name is for apache2/php
[01:35] <epimeth> and the php needs to have curl support
[01:36] <epimeth> zblach: curl is just a wrapper for a tcp socket... I think we all know those aren't secure :-0
[01:36] <epimeth> nor do they need to be
[01:36] <hawk_> epimeth: sorry i dont know anything about that
[01:36] <epimeth> lol
[01:36] <epimeth> kay
[01:36] <epimeth> I'll just !apache2-mod-php
[01:36] <epimeth> !apache2-mod-php
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2-mod-php - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <epimeth> erg
[01:37] <epimeth> !apache2
[01:37] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:37] <epimeth> !php5
[01:37] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[01:37] <epimeth> no link!?
[01:37] <epimeth> stupid ubotu
[01:38] <epimeth> ahhh... libapache2-mod-php5 it is then!
[01:38] <epimeth> Rob-West: what do you need to know about html editors?
[01:39] <epimeth> technically, any text editor can be used to write html
[01:39] <chad> could someone help with superkaramba? trying to get the liquid weather widget working
[01:43] <wimpies> does anybody know of a tool/command I could use from XP to boot linux from my running XP (I need to reinstall XP and want to avoid downloading/burning a new rescue disk)
[01:48] <epimeth> !kwebdev
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwebdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <epimeth> wimpies: you'll need to reinstall grub or lilo to your mbr
[01:49] <epimeth> but to do that you still need to download/burn a disk
[01:49] <Jucato> !kdewebdev
[01:49] <ubotu> kdewebdev: web development apps from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 60 kB
[01:51] <wimpies> hmm. so nothing I could run point to /dev/hdax and it would load ...
[01:51] <Rob-West> how do i close X
[01:52] <Rob-West> so i can install my video driver
[01:52] <Rob-West> drivers*
[01:52] <hawk_> thank you everyone for your help dos anyone know where there is a good list of linux games
[01:52] <epimeth> alt-crl-del
[01:52] <Jucato> Rob-West: logout, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login to the command line, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[01:53] <Rob-West> thanks
[01:53] <epimeth> that works, too
[01:53] <epimeth> :-)
[01:53] <Rob-West> :)
[01:53] <Jucato> ctrl+alt+del actually doesn't work...
[01:53] <DaveQB> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:53] <DaveQB> yeah thats it
[01:53] <Rob-West> can i do it when im in
[01:53] <DaveQB> it just restarts X
[01:53] <Jucato> Rob-West: no
[01:53] <DaveQB> :)
[01:53] <Rob-West> y not
[01:53] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is the one that restarts X
[01:53] <DaveQB> in what ?
[01:54] <DaveQB> you need to to run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:54] <Jucato> Rob-West: because if you do that while you're in KDE, it will shutdown KDE immediaely
[01:54] <hawk_> is there i good list of native games for linux
[01:54] <Jucato> Rob-West: so do it in one of the consoles (not Konsole)
[01:54] <DaveQB> yeah, best to log out and do it
[01:54] <Jucato> !games | hawk_
[01:54] <ubotu> hawk_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:54] <DaveQB> hawk_ google happypenguin, heaps there
[01:54] <hawk_> thanks
[01:54] <DaveQB> happypenguin.org i think
[01:55] <Rob-West> whats the command
[01:55] <prak> if i have installed an application that require opening with wine, where would the application usually be installed?
[01:56] <Jucato> Rob-West: logout, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login to the command line, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[01:56] <DaveQB> prak  ~/.wine/fake_c/Program Files ?
[01:56] <DaveQB> what Jucato said :)
[01:56] <Jucato> prak: if Wine doesn't create a K Menu entry for it, it should be in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[01:56] <Jucato> O.o
[01:56] <Rob-West> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm k thank
[01:56] <Rob-West> thanks
[01:58] <muru>  slackrat: thanks .. i sucessfully installed UBUNTU
[01:58] <SlackRat> cool, just now?
[01:59] <muru>  ... Yes
[01:59] <SlackRat> congrats!
[02:00] <muru>  .. btw.. this Adept updater says there are lot of updates available.. but how do i know what is needed and what is not
[02:01] <SlackRat> muru,  generally let it install everything , their system updates.....are you running dapper , or edgy?
[02:02] <muru>  Dapper
[02:02] <Rob-West> wow it looks different
[02:02] <SlackRat> no problems then, it wont update by default to any newer version, and it keep s up with security updates, latest package versions
[02:02] <SlackRat> etc
[02:03] <SlackRat> did you install off the 6.0.6 or the 6.0.6.1  cds?
[02:05] <muru>  hmm.. not sure.. how can i check
[02:05] <SlackRat> the cd?
[02:05] <Jucato> !version
[02:05] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:05] <muru> i burned the live CD a week back and did install from it
[02:06] <SlackRat> a week, ok cool, i have the older one, without the poiint one
[02:06] <SlackRat> if i install its a LOT of updates
[02:06] <SlackRat> you have the latest, youre just catching up with anything since it came out
[02:06] <SlackRat> most updates are shorter
[02:07] <SlackRat> few pkgs now and then
[02:07] <Rob-West> ok how do i restart x
[02:08] <muru> .. .Yes it is 6.06.1 LTS... but the adept shows still there are lot of updates
[02:09] <ian_> Is it normal for the waiting cursor to blink rapidly? In gnome and KDE as far as I can tell.
[02:09] <Jucato> Rob-West: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (after logging out preferrably)
[02:09] <SlackRat> there have been a few since it was released  late last summer
[02:09] <SlackRat> let it update
[02:10] <muru> ... its not like windows updates.. right?... sometime .. it screws up everything
[02:10] <SlackRat> tends to fix any lil bugs people found  a long the way plus any securty updates
[02:10] <Rob-West> i dont wanna log out
[02:10] <SlackRat> not usually, not at the moment...there was one way back that knocked out peoples X windows for a day
[02:11] <SlackRat> but it was fixed in a day by the devs
[02:11] <SlackRat> it tends to run better when kept up to date
[02:11] <muru> ..  cool. .let me try my luck :)
[02:11] <SlackRat> you;ll miss all the lil bugs that got caught since june
[02:12] <SlackRat> heh, not much luck to it....may take a  lil time but then you might get one or two a week, three or four pkgs only
[02:12] <Rob-West> yees
[02:12] <Rob-West> now it works
[02:12] <Rob-West> high res looks cool
[02:12] <Jucato> Rob-West: you can't restart X without KDE being restarted anyway. Restart X = forced KDE logout. so better logout manually first
[02:13] <muru> ... thanks... You guys made my install very smooth.. i couldnt believe it... you guys are GREAT
[02:15] <SlackRat> well, enjoy, learn, and if you can, pay it forward, heh
[02:16] <xerroz> ^_^
[02:16] <xerroz> hahaha
[02:17] <xerroz> as long as it was written in assembly :)\
[02:23] <quino> hola
[02:23] <quino> soy nuevo
[02:23] <Ash-Fox> !firefox
[02:23] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:23] <quino> hablais espaol?
[02:23] <Ash-Fox> !es > quino
[02:30] <epimeth> !modrewrite
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modrewrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <epimeth> how do I add the mod-rewrite module to apache2?
[02:42] <Yasim> Somebody knows how to translate OppenOffice?
[02:42] <mitype2> does anyone know of any mmorpg I can play? I really miss Conquer Online\
[02:43] <coreymon77> Yasim: what do you mean by translate, and to what language?
[02:43] <hawk_> how do i get Deluge to install adept manager is not finding it and a have the univeral thing turned on
[02:43] <Yasim> coreymon77: from English to Spanish
[02:44] <coreymon77> Yasim: just install the language pack
[02:44] <Yasim> how can I do that?
[02:44] <coreymon77> apt
[02:44] <Yasim> ok, let me search...
[02:44] <Jucato> !openoffice.org-l10n-es
[02:44] <ubotu> openoffice.org-l10n-es: Spanish language package for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1551 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[02:47] <Yasim> Jucato: thanks
[02:47] <Yasim> ubotu: Thanks
[02:47] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:47] <pgraves> Guys, I just installed Kubuntu again on a desktop... and now Im trying to customize it visually.... my first target is the login window...... by default its a light blue background with a grey window asking for Username/Password and the word "Kubuntu" in huge blue letters above that..... how can I change this?
[02:47] <Yasim> A BOT???
[02:47] <Jucato> !ubotu | Yasim
[02:47] <ubotu> Yasim: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:47] <hawk_>  how do i get Deluge to install adept manager is not finding it and a have the univeral thing turned on
[02:48] <Yasim> Wow... a bot talks to me...
[02:48] <Jucato> hawk_: what is deluge?
[02:48] <Yasim> **speaks
[02:48] <Jucato> !changethemes | pgraves
[02:48] <ubotu> pgraves: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[02:48] <Jucato> pgraves: scroll down to the KDM Theme section
[02:49] <hawk_> jucato is a bittorrent client and the site says that it is in the repetory
[02:49] <Jucato> !info deluge-torrent
[02:49] <ubotu> deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1466 kB, installed size 3888 kB
[02:49] <Jucato> hawk_: ^^^
[02:49] <Yasim> !ubotu | Yasim
[02:52] <mefisto__> hawk_: you really confused me. I thought you wanted deluge to install adept for you.
[02:52] <Yasim> Jucato : I've traslated it already
[02:52] <Yasim> but the dicctionary is still in english.
[02:52] <Ash-Fox> How does one dump the names of all the packages installed on the system (preferibly without version info)?
[02:52] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: "dpkg -L" I think
[02:52] <hawk_> mefisto no i want it the other way around srry
[02:52] <mefisto__> Yasim: there is a wizard in openoffice that installs dictionaries. In the file menu
[02:53] <hawk_> you see it is not showing up
[02:53] <Jucato> hawk_: the package name is deluge-torrent. it's possible that you don't have universe enabled, or if you just enabled it now, you didn't Fetch Updates
[02:53] <Yasim> mmm I can't see it.
[02:54] <hawk_> i have uviverse enabled
[02:54] <argonel> Ash-Fox: dpkg --get-selections
[02:54] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: that works too ^^^
[02:54] <Jucato> in fact, that's whay I'm using.. why didn't I say that lol
[02:54] <agent> Using LANG=en_US.UTF-8, KDE/QT applications do not show ISO 8859-2 characters, yet all other non-KDE/QT applications, including rxvt and xterm do show them fine. Why is this? Are the default fonts associated in KDE UTF8 broken? My KDE fonts are all "sans serif" with "monospace" as "fixed width" (in Control Center)
[02:54] <Ash-Fox> Thanks guys
[02:54] <Jucato> hawk_: can you pastebin your sources.list? I'm guessing the wrong universe is enabled
[02:55] <Yasim> mefisto__: I've found it, thanks!
[02:55] <hawk_> dos linux have a fire wall built into it and if it dos how do you shut it off
[02:55] <hawk_> i dont now how
[02:55] <hawk_> to pastbin
[02:57] <Jucato> !pastebin | hawk_
[02:57] <ubotu> hawk_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:57] <mefisto__> hawk_: if you're using konversation, there should be a link to a pastebin at the top of this window
[03:00] <reldruh> does anybody here have their address book in kontact linked to kopete accounts?
[03:00] <hawk_> where is the sources.list att
[03:01] <Jucato> reldruh: I do
[03:01] <Jucato> hawk_: in /etc/apt/
[03:01] <Jucato>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <reldruh> Jucato: I'm trying to get it set up, but when I tell it to use my address book name for a contact, the name goes blank, like there isn't anything there
[03:01] <reldruh> Jucato: but in the address book all my contacts have names
[03:02] <Jucato> reldruh: did you "link" the kopete contact w/ the addressbook contact first?
[03:03] <reldruh> Jucato: yes. Rght click on a contact in kopete, go to properties, click change address book link and find their name
[03:03] <hawk_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8031/ there you go
[03:03] <Jucato> reldruh: hm...
[03:03] <reldruh> Jucato: in the list, it's all fine. Names and email addresses all displayed correctly
[03:03] <reldruh> Jucato: this happens for aim and google talk accounts
[03:04] <Jucato> so you see the name of the Address book contact at the top of the Properties page?
[03:05] <reldruh> the title of the properties window is 'properties of meta contact' Under address book link the correct name is listed
[03:06] <Jucato> hawk_: did you Fetch Updates already?
[03:06] <hawk_> yes
[03:07] <hawk_> and i just did it agion
[03:07] <Rob-West> who was i talking to about html editors
[03:08] <Jucato> hawk_: aah!!!
[03:08] <Jucato> hawk_: enable the edgy-backports repository!! :)
[03:08] <hawk_> how do i do that
[03:09] <Jucato> how do you usually add/enable repositories? Adept? or manually editing the file?
[03:09] <hawk_> adept
[03:09] <Jucato> hawk_: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse <--- you need to enable this one
[03:09] <Jucato> in Adept
[03:10] <coffee> hello all
[03:10] <reldruh> Jucato: any ideas on why it might not be working?
[03:11] <n8k99> mmm, coffee
[03:11] <Jucato> reldruh: sorry, no...
[03:11] <reldruh> Jucato: oh well. Thanks for trying
[03:11] <hawk_> jucato: thanks it worked
[03:12] <Jucato> :)
[03:12] <coffee> would anyone be willing to help out with some wireless prob's on new install?  (i've been at it for a few hours)
[03:13] <reldruh> coffee: I'm in the process of doing the same thing. What's your problem?
[03:14] <hawk_> do kubuntu have a firewall
[03:14] <coffee> edgy 6.1 install on sony desktop, doesn't recognize wireless usb adaptor., wired ethernet works fine
[03:14] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[03:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:14] <Jucato> !firewall | hawk_
[03:14] <ubotu> hawk_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:15] <reldruh> coffee: doesn't see it at all? Have you tried ndiswrapper? Do you know the chipset?
[03:15] <hawk_> !guarddog
[03:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:16] <hawk_> how do i start guraddog in kde
[03:16] <hawk_> guarddog
[03:17] <Jucato> hawk_: you have to install it first.
[03:17] <hawk_> oh
[03:17] <reldruh> coffee: ?
[03:19] <reldruh> does anybody know why my wireless card would give me problems on startup, but work perfectly if I log out then log back in?
[03:25] <ComputerHermit> !kde
[03:25] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:26] <reldruh> does anybody know why my wireless card would give me problems on startup, but work perfectly if I log out then log back in?
[03:30] <nonuda_> how to install kubuntu without cdrom?
[03:30] <intelikey> !install
[03:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:31] <scott> how do you set up Compiz after d/l? i used synaptic package manager
[03:33] <matute> Hola!!! necesito ayuda sobre los driver de nvidia en kubuntu
[03:34] <mememe> I need help instilling programs
[03:34] <mememe> I oprn the .tat.gz folder but what do i click on after extract?
[03:35] <neo_> 'morning
[03:35] <Morbo> Go to konsole
[03:35] <Morbo> cd to the folder
[03:35] <mememe> ok...
[03:36] <asaup> hi all
[03:36] <Morbo> Usually, you do "./configure"
[03:36] <Morbo> Provided no errors "make"
[03:36] <Morbo> then "sudo make install"
[03:36] <Morbo> What are you trying to intsall, anyways?
[03:36] <asaup> can you rememember me the multimedia packages page please
[03:36] <asaup> i dont remember it
[03:36] <Morbo> !multimedia
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:36] <asaup> thanx
[03:36] <Morbo> np
[03:36] <mememe> mozilla firefox and yahoo messenger
[03:37] <Morbo> mememe: OK, there's an easier way
[03:37] <mememe> when i click on the shell script
[03:37] <mememe> it gives me the code, but i dont know what to do with it
[03:37] <Morbo> for firefox, sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox
[03:38] <Morbo> For Yahoo Messenger, I'd suggest using kopete, which comes with kubuntu
[03:38] <mememe> the bin file?
[03:38] <Morbo> mememe: Read what I said aboe.
[03:38] <nonuda_> mememe: what program?
[03:38] <Morbo> mozilla-firefox exists in the repositories, mememe
[03:39] <Morbo> If you install it that way, keeping it up-to-date is much easier
[03:39] <nonuda_> but u must connect to internet
[03:39] <mememe> Sorry, I don't know what that means---I am really new to kubuntu
[03:39] <Morbo> mememe: OK.  Are you at a command line?
[03:40] <Morbo> Also called a terminal
[03:40] <Morbo> command line is the evil name ;)
[03:40] <mememe> ok--got that
[03:40] <Morbo> Type "sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox"
[03:40] <Morbo> For yahoo messenger, kopete should be installed already
[03:41] <Morbo> kopete handles a bunch of different IM protocols like AIM, Jabber/gtalk
[03:41] <mememe> what is kopete?
[03:41] <fiyawerx> anyone know how you can clear your dns cache?
[03:41] <ErikTheRed> is there a decent cd ripper for kde other than kaudiocreator?
[03:41] <mefisto__> can the k/ubuntu installer resize both fat32 and ntfs partitions (assuming there is enough free space and disk is healthy)?
[03:41] <MHobbit> Kopete is an IM program that can connect to many IM protcols.
[03:42] <MHobbit> s/protcols/protocols/;
[03:42] <fiyawerx> mefisto__: i did ntfs no problem during it
[03:42] <mefisto__> what about fat32? anyone?
[03:42] <intelikey> mefisto__ parted can yes.
[03:42] <fiyawerx> if it can do ntfs i'd hope it could hehe
[03:43] <mefisto__> intelikey: is parted used in the installer?
[03:43] <Rob-West> can someone help me
[03:43] <intelikey> mefisto__ yes
[03:43] <intelikey> Rob-West quanta+ ?
[03:44] <mememe> so after i go to terminal, at the black screen the prompt says (i think) "ubuntu@ubuntu" and i type "sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox"?
[03:44] <Rob-West> yea
[03:44] <Rob-West> i need the repo for it
[03:45] <intelikey> main
[03:46] <Rob-West> i found it
[03:46] <intelikey> screem - A GNOME website development environment  ?
[03:46] <mememe> Morbo?
[03:46] <Rob-West> i found what i wanted
[03:46] <intelikey> august - Tcl/Tk HTML editor
[03:46] <intelikey> bluefish - advanced Gtk+ HTML editor
[03:46] <Morbo> mememe: yes
[03:46] <mefisto__> Rob-West: if you search for "html editor" and "web dev" in adept, you'll find quite a few
[03:47] <Rob-West> well i found what i wanted thanks
[03:47] <mememe> Ok, thanks, but how does it know what folder it is in?
[03:47] <intelikey> no it's not.   that's not what you want.   you want something else
[03:47] <intelikey> you want vim
[03:48] <intelikey> or is it  macs ....
[03:48] <intelikey> :)
[03:48] <Morbo> emacs.  I almost had to get a lobotomy because of it.
[03:50] <mememe> and Morbo- what is the default password to username 'root'  -  I thought it was 'toor' but that didn't work
[03:51] <intelikey> mememe there is no password for root
[03:51] <intelikey> can't login as root          (unless you change that)
[03:51] <Morbo> Just type in the password you set whilst installing
[03:52] <mememe> i didnt install--live cd using external hd to save stuff on
[03:52] <pgraves> Ok, Phase 1: Setting Up Different Login Screen Accomplished... THANK YOU!.... Now I want to try to change the splash screen that loads after I type in my User/Pass... I downloaded a bunch of Splash Screens from the place that I got the Login Themes, but I dont know how to install the splace screens... any help? or any docs?
[03:52] <intelikey> mememe then there is no password piriod.
[03:53] <pgraves> Note: Im using Kubuntu Dapper
[03:54] <intelikey> !splash | pgraves
[03:54] <ubotu> pgraves: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:54] <ErikTheRed> does anyone know of any decent alternatives to kaudiocreator?
[03:54] <intelikey> oh that's 'no_me specific... sorry
[03:55] <Jucato> pgraves: it's called ksplash
[03:55] <Jucato> pgraves: you can download some ksplash themes from http://kde-look.org and then install them using System Settings -> Splash Screen
[03:55] <dewey> good day mates
[03:55] <Jucato> pgraves: no need to extract the contents of the .tar.gz
[03:56] <dewey> say is kde 4.0 working in kubuntu?
[03:56] <Rob-West> how do i lock the screen
[03:56] <intelikey> kde 4.0 is not released yet
[03:56] <dewey> hmmm kde 4 alpha then?
[03:56] <Jucato> Rob-West: K Menu -> Lock Session or Ctrl+Alt+L
[03:56] <Jucato> dewey: not even alpha yet
[03:57] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+L
[03:57] <pgraves> Im in System Settings but I dont see "Splash Screen"
[03:58] <intelikey> Jucato dapper ^
[03:58] <pgraves> I tried to do a Apt-get install ksplash but it said I already have the newest installed
[03:58] <Rob-West> now to test my video card
[03:58] <Jucato> oh
[03:58] <aseigo> pgraves: if you type "splash" in the search bar, do you get anything at all?
[03:58] <Jucato> pgraves: it's in there, somewhere... I don't have dapper. you can use the search function in System Settings...
[03:59] <aseigo> yo
[03:59] <Jucato> oooh yoga :)
[03:59] <Rob-West> how do i test my video card
[03:59] <Rob-West> to make sure it works
[03:59] <draik> How do I make Kubuntu stop using the onboard audio and switch to the sound card instead?
[04:00] <aseigo> draik: for arts, you can do that in the sound system control panel
[04:00] <aseigo> draik: as long as the kernel sees the card, it should be listed on the hardware  page
[04:00] <draik> aseigo: I tried that. Wouldn't work
[04:00] <intelikey> draik there is also a wiki on sound stuff
[04:00] <draik> !sound
[04:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:00] <mefisto__> what's the conventional wisdom on medibuntu? Is it "not recommended" by the k/ubuntu people? (legal issues aside)
[04:00] <aseigo> draik: for other engines/systems you need to configure them individually
[04:01] <draik> aseigo: Thank you
[04:01] <aseigo> draik: so.. e.g. for xine you need to configure xine
[04:01] <draik> I will try that
[04:01] <aseigo> and GOD i can't wait for phonon so we can stop =that= particularly brand of insanity
[04:01] <swanfl> has anyone tried the latest feisty fawn? how is it? any problems?
[04:01] <aseigo> "so .. go to these 8 different hidden places and configure the same damn thing over and over again."
[04:01] <pgraves> if I go to K>Run "KSplash" it appears to show the splash screen, not give me an option to change it
[04:02] <aseigo> swanfl: working well for me...
[04:02] <Jucato> mefisto__: it's a 3rd party project. therefore not officially supported
[04:02] <swanfl> thanks aseigo
[04:02] <intelikey> making the card you want the default card   slot=0  is a good place to start draik,  howto is on the wiki
[04:02] <swanfl> no issues yet?
[04:02] <Jucato> pgraves: try System Settings -> Appearance or System Settings -> Desktop
[04:02] <aseigo> swanfl: they've even finally (just the other day) uploaded new x.org packages so that xephyr works again on x86-64.. .yay!
[04:02] <Jucato> aseigo: nice! :)
[04:02] <mefisto__> Jucato: yes but I was wondering if it was discouraged at all
[04:03] <Jucato> mefisto__: well, it's sort of a separate distro right?
[04:03] <mefisto__> Jucato: like automatix
[04:03] <Jucato> ah hm..
[04:03] <Jucato> let me check
[04:03] <Rob-West> whats the command to test a video card in ubuntu
[04:03] <Morbo> glxgears, maybe
[04:03] <mefisto__> Jucato: it's multimedia packages
[04:03] <intelikey> Rob-West ?
[04:04] <Jucato> mefisto__: ah then it has the same warning for any 3rd-party repository/package. Use at your own risk.
[04:04] <Jucato> mefisto__: but so far, no warning like Automatix
[04:04] <swanfl> what about the bug where you can't change the display resolution by doing ctrl-alt kpplus or minus?
[04:04] <intelikey> glxgears -iaknowledgethatthisisnotabeancemarktool  or something like that.
[04:04] <Rob-West> i need open gl
[04:04] <pgraves> DONE
[04:05] <pgraves> Phase II - Complete
[04:05] <Jucato> glxgears -printfps
[04:05] <pgraves> Ok.... FINAL Phase
[04:05] <Jucato> pgraves: found it?
[04:05] <pgraves> Yeah, found it
[04:05] <Jucato> pgraves: where was it under?
[04:06] <pgraves> System Settings>Desktop then in the left pane theres a "Splash Screen" option
[04:06] <Jucato> ah ok. in Edgy, they moved it out of Desktop
[04:06] <Rob-West> ok i need open gl first
[04:07] <pgraves> Now... When I downloading the Login Themes & the Splash Screens, I also downloaded Boot Splash Screens.... Any idea how to install those?
[04:07] <pgraves> downloaded*
[04:07] <Jucato> pgraves: unfortunately, those are more difficult to chnage
[04:07] <Jucato> !usplash | pgraves
[04:07] <ubotu> pgraves: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:07] <estebandido> hello... can anyone tell me if kubuntu-ppc will install correctly on a 64-bit G5?
[04:07] <intelikey> right-click .... point click.   right-click  ...
[04:08] <Jucato> pgraves: you can't use bootsplash themes from KDE-Look unless they're made specifically for USplash
[04:08] <intelikey> estebandido while i admitedly have not tested that.   it should.
[04:09] <pgraves> hmmm
[04:09] <pgraves> oh well
[04:09] <freality> a G5 is Intel-based, I;d think it uses the nomal 64 bit edition.
[04:09] <pgraves> Oh, also... can I have different "Desktop Icons" for different virtual desktops?
[04:09] <intelikey> basicly that's the same as installing i386  on a k8
[04:09] <estebandido> no, i bought it before apple went intel
[04:10] <estebandido> intelikey: i just spent two weeks on a gentoo installation that "should" have worked
[04:10] <Jucato> pgraves: afaik,no
[04:10] <mefisto__> pgraves: not a bad idea though
[04:10] <pgraves> it'd be nice to be able to configure a path for each desktop
[04:10] <estebandido> i'm on ubuntu now, and would love to have it on my mac
[04:11] <intelikey> estebandido as i said.   i haven't tested that.      no apples here mate
[04:11] <lontra> can you install kde 4 development snapshots in feisty?
[04:11] <freality> if the liveCD works, then it'll install
[04:11] <estebandido> i'm so frustrated, i've considered selling the machine
[04:13] <freality> estebandito. I don't know much about Macs and linux. but http://www.linuxactionshow.com is run by a couple guys that switched to linux from a mac.
[04:13] <intelikey> freality it'll install in some places where the live CD wont run
[04:14] <Rob-West> ok how do i install opengl for an nvidia video card in ubntu
[04:14] <Rob-West> kubuntu*
[04:14] <estebandido> freality: too late to go back... i've wiped the partition table
[04:14] <intelikey> !ati | Rob-West
[04:14] <ubotu> Rob-West: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <estebandido> it's linux or the curb
[04:14] <estebandido> oh, wait, i read that wrong
[04:18] <n8k99> linux runs pretty well on a mac
[04:18] <n8k99> only thing is you don't get Flash
[04:18] <Mena> HI
[04:19] <Mena> stdin, are you here
[04:19] <intelikey> n8k99 so there is nothing missing really  :)     kool
[04:19] <Mena> intelikey,
[04:19] <intelikey> Mena
[04:20] <Mena> intelikey, i had a prob with gueb bec of renistall xp and i did as on th ewiki page but nothing happnend
[04:20] <n8k99> pretty much- have had kubuntu on my powerbook since hoary
[04:20] <Mena> gurb*
[04:20] <Mena> !gurb
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gurb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <intelikey> still no grub prompt at boot ?
[04:20] <Mena> intelikey, yes
[04:21] <intelikey> ?
[04:21] <Mena> intelikey, i installed it on root
[04:21] <Mena> intelikey, or that will not work
[04:21] <Mena> intelikey, must boot part
[04:21] <Mena> intelikey, i dont know
[04:21] <Mena>  :|
[04:21] <intelikey> needs installed to the mbr     i'd think.
[04:22] <intelikey> MRB
[04:22] <intelikey> MBR
[04:22] <intelikey> i'll get it right if you give me long enough
[04:22] <Mena> okay
[04:22] <Mena> intelikey, i did this
[04:23] <Mena> intelikey, sudo -i then sudo fdisk -l then mkdir /mnt/root then mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/root
[04:24] <Mena> intelikey, the grub-install --rootdirectory=/mnt/root /dev/hda1
[04:24] <Mena> intelikey, so what is wrong
[04:25] <Mena> intelikey,and i git this no report errors
[04:25] <Mena> intelikey, and first its says ignore something stage1 one or something like that also
[04:25] <freality> question. there any deskbar like applets for KDE?
[04:25] <intelikey> yeah aside from the second instance of sudo being superflutious       the device should have been  /dev/hda  not /dev/hda1      i think.
[04:26] <Mena> intelikey, i went to the wiki and its says choose your write linux part
[04:26] <Mena> intelikey, i mean kubuntu or ubuntu
[04:26] <Mena> intelikey, :)
[04:27] <intelikey> let me look at the page a minute.    i'll get back to you.
[04:27] <Mena> intelikey, ok take your time
[04:31] <epimeth> anybody good with regexps?
[04:31] <epimeth> cuz grep is giving me a leeetil problem
[04:31] <epimeth> grep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo
[04:32] <epimeth> in other words... I want the files and rownumbers of [template]  pages which contain the string ':}' followed by anything that is not in the following list: <, a space character, or a double quotation
[04:33] <epimeth> problem is I'm also getting back rows that end in ':}'
[04:33] <epimeth> which makes sence, cuz \s does not cover \n
[04:34] <epimeth> but when I add \n to the list ([^\<\s\"\n] )
[04:34] <epimeth> it still finds them :-(
[04:35] <fudgey> hello!
[04:35] <Mena> hi
[04:36] <epimeth> ahoy!
[04:37] <intelikey> Mena ok the wiki agrees with me on the mbr issue.
[04:37] <Mena> i realy dont know what is mbr
[04:37] <Mena> or what is meaning
[04:38] <intelikey> grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/hda  <<< that's what the wiki said for an example.    that will install frub on the MBR == master boot record    rather than /dev/hda1 == first primary partition
[04:38] <intelikey> frub ?      heh   grub
[04:38] <Mena> ohh ok thanks
[04:39] <Mena> so ist hda just hda
[04:39] <Mena> its*
[04:39] <Mena> okay i will try
[04:39] <intelikey> yep that's what i told you the first time.   ^^^
[04:39] <Mena> thaanks :) ^_^
[04:39] <epimeth> inteli: you know regexps perchance?
[04:40] <intelikey> epimeth a little about it
[04:40] <intelikey> epimeth   man regex
[04:41] <intelikey> epimeth what you want is ?
[04:41] <intelikey> or was it just a pool ?
[04:41] <intelikey> poll
[04:41] <epimeth> grep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo
[04:41] <epimeth> it is 'finding' the \s
[04:42] <intelikey> ok inside ''  and using \  is redundant
[04:42] <intelikey> try ""
[04:42] <epimeth> just making sure :-)
[04:43] <epimeth> okay... I'll try that...
[04:43] <epimeth> nope
[04:43] <epimeth> same exact list
[04:43] <freality> epimath -are you looking an "s" or "\s"?
[04:43] <epimeth> \s
[04:43] <intelikey> k let me test it a bit and get back to you.
[04:43] <epimeth> cheers
[04:43] <epimeth> also, \n... but that should be included in \s
[04:44] <freality> try \\s instead
[04:44] <epimeth> hmmm
[04:44] <stdin> epimeth: you may want to install kregexpeditor
[04:44] <stdin> !kregexpeditor
[04:44] <ubotu> kregexpeditor: graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[04:44] <epimeth> naw... that'll match \ and s
[04:45] <epimeth> I need \s
[04:46] <intelikey> what is \s ?
[04:47] <fudgey> !
[04:47] <stdin> \s = A space character
[04:47] <epimeth> space
[04:47] <epimeth> also, tab
[04:47] <epimeth> newline
[04:47] <intelikey> just use the space.
[04:47] <epimeth> stdin
[04:47] <epimeth> you seem to know what you're talking about
[04:47] <intelikey> \n is newline
[04:47] <epimeth> help me out?
[04:47] <epimeth> \s should match newline as well
[04:47] <epimeth> with /m
[04:48] <epimeth> but I'm using regexp... so I'm kinda stuck
[04:48] <epimeth> grep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo
[04:48] <stdin> epimeth: I know a bit about it, but i'm no expert and all I know is what I've found from when I needed it
[04:49] <intelikey> epimeth grep -ne ...
[04:49] <epimeth> egrep?
[04:49] <epimeth> I'll give it a shot...
[04:49] <intelikey> no egrep is  -E  not -e
[04:50] <epimeth> whups
[04:50] <epimeth> nope and nope
[04:50] <epimeth> added the \n manually, too
[04:50] <epimeth> doesn't work, either
[04:51] <intelikey> -E, --extended-regexp   -e PATTERN, --regexp=PATTERN       but i still say \s seems like an odd duck.
[04:51] <jose__> who knows a mp3 player with skin transparent?
[04:51] <joey__> anyone know abodu the add/remove features?
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> joey__: what do you mean?
[04:53] <joey__> stupid thing wont add prgrams
[04:53] <epimeth> tried it with a space... doesn't work, either
[04:53] <epimeth> wtf
[04:53] <bonbonthejon> joey__: try using adept instead, i havent had good luck with add/remove either
[04:53] <epimeth> maybe '^' is not the 'not' symbol in grep?
[04:54] <mefisto__> joey__: what do you mean it won't add programs? are programs listed?
[04:55] <freality> ^ is beginnig of line
[04:55] <joey__> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[04:55] <epimeth> not if its in square brackets
[04:55] <joey__> when i apply changes to install a program
[04:56] <epimeth> [^ = exclude
[04:56] <jose__> who knows a mp3 player with skin transparent?
[04:56] <stdin> epimeth: try ':\}[^\<\s\"] ' (move the 1st '\')
[04:57] <intelikey> grep -ne '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' *
[04:57] <intelikey> Binary file 18177.zip matches
[04:57] <mefisto__> joey__: and did it download anything?
[04:57] <joey__> no
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> joey__: try using adept
[04:57] <mefisto__> joey__: try installing the same prog in adept. It probably gives you more feedback
[04:57] <jose__> install kpackage
[04:58] <epimeth> muther
[04:58] <epimeth> nothing is working?!?!
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> !kpackage
[04:58] <ubotu> kpackage: KDE package management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 679 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[04:58] <intelikey> epimeth what do you want it to do ?
[04:59] <mefisto__> joey__: if it didn't download anything at all, the repositories in sources.list might not be right, possibly
[04:59] <epimeth> I'm making sure that none of our templates have extraneous characters in them
[04:59] <joey__> gave me the same feedback for both
[04:59] <norbert> Trying to do a clean Feisty install on a server: 2 raid 1s -  /root (md0) and /home (md1). Due to previous issues, I just cleanly wiped and formatted the previous /root. In the installer, it recognized the partitions and made the new root raid (md2). When it tries to go back to the partition window, I get an error: Could not stat device /dev/md/1 - No such file or directory
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> joey__: open konsole and run "sudo apt-get update" to see if it downloads
[04:59] <intelikey> you are looking for strings in all files in the pwd and sending the output to a todo file that is overwritten each time you run that.   <epimeth> grep -n '\:}[^\<\s\"] ' * > todo
[04:59] <stdin> ':\}[^\<\s\"] ' seems to look for (in "English") ":}" with any character except A space,< and "
[05:00] <epimeth> so if a colon or a star appears outside of a template call - {:name:} or {:page:name:} - I need to move it to inside the language file
[05:00] <norbert> Apparently, the installer sees my /home (md1) and tries to work with it; I don't need it to recognize it - I can do it after the install, but I can't continue the installation due to the error
[05:00] <joey__> bunch of errors
[05:00] <bonbonthejon> norbert: where did you install grub
[05:01] <epimeth> stdin: exactly
[05:01] <norbert> bonbonthejon: mbr
[05:01] <bonbonthejon> norbert: ok, i knew there was a problem trying to install grub on a raid
[05:01] <bonbonthejon> norbert: do you have a swap?
[05:02] <norbert> bonbonthejon: specific to feisty? (previous setup was Edgy, and it worked fine)
[05:02] <norbert> no, I do not
[05:02] <epimeth> I'm looking for :} followed by anything that isn't a space, an html tag, or the end to an html property
[05:02] <norbert> bonbonthejon: I can shave some of the /root for swap w/o having space issues. Will this help somehow? (don't see how this is related)
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> norbert: I dont know, I thought you had to have a swap
[05:03] <norbert> bonbonthejon: for that matter, I suspect I could make a small /boot if that's the real issue
[05:03] <norbert> bonbonthejon: nope; Edgy installed fine with no swap and root on raid. Unless feisty requires it.. (this is the alternative cd)
[05:04] <norbert> bonbonthejon: the real issue seems to be that I have a previous /home raid1 I don't want to destroy. Is there a good way to make a clean install w/o it messing with /home?
[05:04] <bonbonthejon> norbert: no, I've done dapper with swap and a separate boot, root on raid
[05:04] <MegaVolt> hi, got a problem installing kubuntu feisty on amd64
[05:04] <mefisto__> joey__: you could try http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ to get a new sources.list
[05:04] <MegaVolt> clicking install doesnt do anything, if i paste the command in the konsole i get
[05:04] <MegaVolt> http://rafb.net/p/tHKIIK55.html
[05:05] <MegaVolt> any ideas
[05:05] <bonbonthejon> norbert: you should be able to only format the other partitions, and mount /home
[05:05] <Mena> intelikey , thanks its worked
[05:05] <Mena> intelikey , i dont thought that it would be simple
[05:05] <Mena> intelikey , heheeh :)
[05:05] <bonbonthejon> MegaVolt: I prefer using the alt. install cd, it seems to have less problems
[05:05] <norbert> bonbonthejon: I should mention that the reason I formatted /root outside of the installer was because it was giving me the same error for the /root raid. After, I formatted /root, installer works fine for setting up the new partition. I sincerely hope that there is a solution outside of repeating this scenario with /home
[05:06] <intelikey> epimeth grep -ne ':}' | grep -ve ':} '
[05:06] <epimeth> lol
[05:06] <epimeth> nice
[05:06] <norbert> bonbonthejon: I'm trying to format other partitions, and mount /home later; Installer doesn't get as far as letting me select "/" for a partition :-)
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> norbert: its been months since I set up my server, I dont remember how everyting worked
[05:07] <intelikey> well just a thought.   if you can't write it short,  write it long.
[05:07] <norbert> What's the use of having a separate /home if everytime I need to reinstall /root, everything complains so much.. *sigh*
[05:08] <norbert> bonbonthejon: heh. Hopefully some other kind soul has some answers
[05:08] <epimeth> inteli: great workaround
[05:08] <epimeth> cheers
[05:08] <epimeth> I'll just pipe to all the ones I don't want :-)
[05:08] <MegaVolt> k ill try the alternate cd then ... seems like a really strage bug
[05:09] <ghetek> if i have a dell d610 with onboard video intel 815 would beryl be ok?
[05:09] <MegaVolt> any way to use some kind of text mode install with the normal cd ?
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> norbert: the way i got around a similar problem was I took out the drive with the data, I put a new drive in, set up the system, reinserted the data drive, copied everything over, then added the data drive to the raid
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> MegaVolt: i dont think so
[05:09] <ian_> Is gmail not working for anyone else?
[05:09] <bonbonthejon> ghetek: intel cards have open drivers, I believe, so they should do pretty good with beryl
[05:10] <intelikey> epimeth i'm better at just "getting it done"  than "doing it right"   but hey,  what is right ?
[05:10] <stdin> ian_: yeah, working fine
[05:10] <epimeth> $ isn't friggin working/!!!!!!
[05:10] <intelikey> \$
[05:10] <MegaVolt> the .py script coomplains about missing init methods - am i the only one with this problem? the error message sounds like some script error to me, not a hardware problem
[05:10] <epimeth> | grep -ve ':}$'
[05:10] <epimeth> that'll match a $ literal
[05:11] <epimeth> I want the end of line
[05:11] <epimeth> \n isn't working either
[05:11] <epimeth> \r\n
[05:11] <epimeth> \r
[05:11] <epimeth> nothing
[05:11] <epimeth> wtf
[05:11] <ghetek> bonbonthejon: thanks! i will install it.
[05:11] <CShadowRun> dam. :(
[05:11] <intelikey> try the "" in place of the ''
[05:11] <CShadowRun> $ man women
[05:11] <CShadowRun> No manual entry for women
[05:11] <CShadowRun> just as i thought linux was the answer for everything :(
[05:12] <norbert> bonbonthejon: this is assuming I have an additional ~450GB drive. :-)
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> CShadowRun: i found a web page will unix jokes like that
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> norbert: if you have a raid you should have more than one drive
[05:13] <intelikey> epimeth       grep -ve ':\}$'     works.
[05:13] <ghetek> is there an antivirus that i can run on my kubuntu partition to search my windows ntfs partition?
[05:13] <CShadowRun> [bonbonthejon-> i'd like a link :D
[05:13] <intelikey> epimeth so does  grep -ve ":\}$"
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> ghetek: if you mount the ntfs partition a linux anti-virus shoudl be able to
[05:14] <stdin> ghetek: ClamAV is one
[05:14] <norbert> bonbonthejon: wait; Install the system with one drive (non-raid); Mount data raid partition (will this mount normally like ext3?) Copy over data to system drive; Zero the data drive and re-add it to the raid?
[05:14] <ghetek> is clamav gui?
[05:14] <ghetek> stdin: is clamav gui?
[05:14] <shriphani> !gnutella
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <ghetek> !amule
[05:14] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> ghetek: if its not there is a gui for it
[05:14] <ghetek> bonbonthejon: ok thx
[05:14] <shriphani> ghetek: amule supports gnutella ?
[05:15] <stdin> ghetek: no clue, never used it, but I think it's probably a commandline app, that just scans the files every now and then, with cron
[05:15] <bonbonthejon> norbert: redo the system with raid, plug the old drive in, it should show up as another raid, then mount the second raid and copy
[05:15] <ghetek> shriphani: no actually shareaza does and there is an entry in the wiki on getting shareaza working with wine in ubuntu, ive done it its easy
[05:16] <shriphani> hmm.... no native apps for that ?
[05:16] <MegaVolt> if im using the feisty install cd right now is there a way to see which version it is (herd) ?
[05:16] <epimeth> grr... screw it... I'll go through the list and erase the ones that are only newlines myself
[05:16] <epimeth> :-(
[05:16] <norbert> bonbonthejon: I can make a temporary raid1 during install, just using one drive?
[05:16] <intelikey> epimeth heh so does   grep -ve ":\}
[05:16] <intelikey> "
[05:17] <bonbonthejon> norbert: yes, the install raid will be the new system, set it up for 2, but only put in 1
[05:17] <epimeth> I did a wc on both
[05:17] <epimeth> -ve :}$
[05:17] <epimeth> had less rows than without it
[05:17] <epimeth> but there were rows there that ended in :}
[05:17] <epimeth> so I'm very unhappy
[05:17] <bonbonthejon> CShadowRun: http://www.csd.uwo.ca/staff/magi/personal/humour/Computer_Audience/Funny UNIX Shell Commands.html
[05:17] <norbert> bonbonthejon: interesting; I will try that, thanks for the tip!
[05:17] <intelikey> epimeth probably had spaces that you don't see
[05:18] <intelikey> i.e.  grep -ve ":\} $"
[05:18] <bonbonthejon> norbert: like i said, I did a similar thing, took some work, but it worked
[05:19] <epimeth> its open in kate as we speak
[05:19] <epimeth> there aint nuthin there
[05:20] <freality> epimeth - try '\<:}\>[^"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:<'
[05:20] <ghetek> how do i use ifconfig to find my gateway?
[05:20] <ghetek> is there a simple ipconfig for ubuntu?
[05:20] <freality> crap, how do I paste raw text?
[05:21] <epimeth> grep -ne ':}' *.tpl | grep -ve ':}[ ] ' | wc
[05:21] <epimeth>    1197    2644   88311
[05:21] <stdin> ghetek: use the command "route -n"
[05:21] <epimeth> grep -ne ':}' *.tpl | grep -ve ':} ' |wc
[05:21] <epimeth>    1197    2644   88311
[05:21] <epimeth> ohhh
[05:21] <epimeth> heh
[05:21] <epimeth> my bad
[05:21] <intelikey> well echo ' test :} ' | grep -ve ":\}$"     doesn't omit that line.  but the trailing space is not seen soooo......
[05:21] <ghetek> stdin: thnx
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> MegaVolt: I dont know of a way to find the herd, but "lsb_release -a" give some info
[05:22] <epimeth> now $echo 'test :} ' > test.tpl
[05:22] <epimeth> open it in Kate
[05:22] <epimeth> and see the trailing space
[05:22] <ErikTheRed> i'm looking for a decent tagging tool for my music that can pull from freedb, is there anything out there better than easytag?
[05:23] <intelikey> epimeth now pipe it through grep and look.
[05:23] <intelikey> echo ' test :} ' | grep -ve ":\}$" > test.tpl
[05:23] <epimeth> grep -ne ':}' *.tpl | grep -ve ':} ' |wc
[05:23] <epimeth>    1197    2644   88311
[05:23] <epimeth> ack
[05:23] <epimeth> technical_indicators_8.tpl:3:{:include:technical_indicators.tpl:}
[05:23] <bonbonthejon> !tagging
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tagging - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <epimeth> technical_indicators_8.tpl is currently open in a text editor.  line 3 ends with the }
[05:24] <epimeth> MUTHER OF GOD
[05:25] <epimeth> why in all that is good and holy are there DOS newlines in my files?!?!?
[05:25] <epimeth> and while we're on the subject, why were they not returned when I tried \r\n???
[05:26] <epimeth> cheers guys... I can take it from here ;-)
[05:26] <epimeth> muther
[05:26] <intelikey> that i don't know.
[05:26] <intelikey> but dos2unix filename    will fix that
[05:26] <epimeth> just gotta say "thank you vi, for placing pretty blue ^Ms when something is wrong"
[05:26] <epimeth> did I install that package?
[05:27] <epimeth> nope
[05:27] <epimeth> what's the package, you know?
[05:27] <intelikey> !dos2unix
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <epimeth> lol
[05:27] <epimeth> fail me again, bot, and you won't live to regret it
[05:27] <intelikey> ah package name   tofrodos - Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos
[05:28] <theshadow> has anyone had issues getting the compiz gpg key?
[05:28] <epimeth> woo hoo
[05:29] <stdin> theshadow: isn't compiz in the ubuntu repos?
[05:31] <theshadow> stdin: apparently :S
[05:31] <stdin> theshadow: then you should already have the key
[05:31] <nonuda_> i have the kubuntu system and have update most recent package and install some of application, and now i want to install it to another cpu can i use ghost?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  the linux program 'mondo/mindi' is good for backingup.restoring linux systems
[05:32] <nonuda_> rather then fresh instal and update the packages again
[05:32] <Dr_willis> theres proberly a dozen ways you could do it without ghost. :)
[05:33] <ghetek> argh... how do i kubuntify the following command? "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[05:33] <nonuda_> mondo/mindi..hm where can i find it?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  of course the apt packages its downloaded are stored on the hard drive.. you could just do an install. then  either copy those packges over to the new box. or share them, or use that apt cache tool that makes the 2nd pc look on the first one for the packages.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> is the hardware in the 2 machines identical?
[05:33] <stdin> ghetek: replace gdm with kdm
[05:34] <epimeth> and after all has been said and done... there were 2 cases
[05:34] <ghetek> damnit i didnt want it to be that easy...
[05:34] <epimeth> *
[05:34] <intelikey> epimeth well you have set me on a quest now....    why doesn't   grep -ve "\n"  work ?
[05:34] <ghetek> now i just feel stupid
[05:34] <nonuda_> no..
[05:34] <epimeth> inteli... good luck
[05:34] <epimeth> I, for one, am all grepped out
[05:34] <epimeth> and its 6:30 am and I haven't slept
[05:34] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  you may be better off installing to the 2nd box. then shareing/copying  the allready downloaded packages
[05:35] <epimeth> I think a nap is in order before calling the boss to let him know the templates are fixed
[05:35] <metamorph> can kubuntu be loaded into and run from a memory stick
[05:35] <epimeth> we want to put the site live tonight :-)
[05:35] <metamorph> ?
[05:35] <epimeth> meta: kubuntu, I don't think so... but debian can
[05:35] <Dr_willis> metamorph,  ive heard it can
[05:36] <ghetek> if i run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart will i not see all my windows? will my file transfer continue on?
[05:36] <stdin> epimeth: kubuntu is based on debian, so it should be the same
[05:36] <nonuda_> ok..then how do i find those downloaded package in my harddrive?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> ghetek,  that will stop X and kill the x apps.
[05:36] <epimeth> but ubuntu's base install is like 10 times bigger
[05:36] <stdin> ghetek: no, you'll be logged out
[05:36] <Dr_willis> nonuda_,  now would be a good time to read up on how apt-get works. :)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:36] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> check that apt-get manual.
[05:36] <ghetek> i will give it a shot
[05:36] <metamorph> I have debian 3.1 but I can't do anything with it so I got the lastes kubuntu
[05:37] <epimeth> kubuntu installs a lot more pacakges by default, is all
[05:37] <metamorph> latest
[05:37] <Dr_willis> i had one pc set up to be the main 'package server' it downloaded all the updates and stuff.. and the other machines on the lan had their sources.list set to get the files from that machine.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> that was handy
[05:37] <epimeth> also, metamorph, it depends on the size of the memory stick :-)
[05:37] <metamorph> 2 gig
[05:37] <stdin> metamorph: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent will help
[05:38] <epimeth> Dr_willis: did you jigdo the mirror?  cuz that's just cool :-)
[05:38] <metamorph> I'll try - thanks
[05:38] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  i didenet go THAT far
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:38] <nonuda_> thank u
[05:38] <Jucato> dangnabit... stdin beat me to it... :(
[05:38] <epimeth> any hoo... g'morning all! I'm off to bed!
[05:38] <stdin> Jucato: I always do :P
[05:39] <Jucato> hmph
[05:39] <intelikey> epimeth there seems to be something about }\n   that grep can't handle normally
[05:39] <swanfl> what exactly prompted the ubuntu team to use SVGATextMode in Feisty? this program was last updated in 2000 and doesn't appear to support recent video card, has no man page, and breaks my default console font /size setting?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <Dr_willis> sounds like somthing i would disable anyway
[05:41] <intelikey> svgatextmode is only a mechenism to switch the screen mode the support is in the kenrel frame buffering.
[05:42] <hawk_> ubuntugames is in a diffrenent lang then english
[05:42] <Kite_DH> how do i make folders invisible???
[05:42] <hawk_> is there a site for games that is in english
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Kite_DH,  hmmm... basicially ya dont.
[05:42] <intelikey> Kite_DH ?
[05:42] <Kite_DH> hmm
[05:42] <Dr_willis> if the name starts with a . - they are considered 'hidden'
[05:42] <Kite_DH> yes but i installed my lexmark printer
[05:42] <Dr_willis> you are refering to folders in the users home dir?
[05:42] <Kite_DH> and now thers a folder called "lexmark" in my home folder
[05:42] <hawk_> you can add a . to the at the start of the name of the folder
[05:42] <Kite_DH> can i set a . in front of it?
[05:43] <intelikey> Kite_DH you can change the permissions on them.  that will make them unviewable
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Why does the printer need a dir in the users home dir anyway?
[05:43] <Kite_DH> no idea
[05:43] <Kite_DH> it made it itself
[05:43] <hawk_> .mathew will not show up
[05:43] <Kite_DH> after i followed the ubuntu wiki
[05:43] <Dr_willis> if the stuff is 'installed' i imagine you dont need the dir any more.
[05:43] <stdin> Kite_DH: from the rpms?
[05:43] <hawk_> if that is the name of the folder
[05:43] <hawk_> i think
[05:43] <intelikey> Kite_DH oh yeah you can move them name to .name  but if something automatically created the dir it will probably whine about you moving it.
[05:43] <Kite_DH> if i make .lexmark out of it, will the system still find it as lexmark?
[05:44] <theshadow> Ok would anyone running compiz and xgl be willing to give me a hand? I can't seem to get things up and running
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Kite_DH,  i doubt if the system is using it at all.
[05:44] <stdin> Kite_DH: you can remove/delete the folder after the install
[05:44] <Kite_DH> alright
[05:44] <Rob-West> i need hel
[05:44] <Kite_DH> i set a . infront of it
[05:44] <Rob-West> help
[05:44] <hawk_> is there any good sites for games for ubuntu
[05:44] <Rob-West> my apt fucked up can i fix it without reinstalling
[05:44] <Kite_DH> adept
[05:44] <Kite_DH> type in game
[05:44] <Kite_DH> :D
[05:44] <hawk_> !game
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Jucato> !games | hawk_
[05:45] <ubotu> hawk_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:45] <stdin> theshadow: compiz on kde is hell, beryl is easier to install
[05:45] <intelikey> !adeptfix | Rob-West
[05:45] <ubotu> Rob-West: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:45] <Rob-West> no it was a repo error
[05:45] <Rob-West> i think i fixed it
[05:45] <hawk_> i cant get beryl to work on my system
[05:45] <theshadow> stdin: blah, beryl just whitescreens
[05:45] <Kite_DH> hawk_: #beryl
[05:45] <Kite_DH> =)
[05:45] <stdin> theshadow: beryl and compiz are mostly the same code
[05:45] <intelikey> Rob-West sudo apt-get update
[05:46] <Rob-West> i did
[05:46] <intelikey> Rob-West if the repos are setup correctly that should fix you.
[05:46] <Rob-West> !pastebin
[05:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <Rob-West> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8049/
[05:47] <theshadow> stdin: ok I'm not exactly sure what you're saying by that comment.
[05:47] <Rob-West> problem
[05:47] <Rob-West> there it is
[05:47] <intelikey> hey what a radical idea,   using a pastebin to show us the error
[05:47] <stdin> theshadow: if beryl fails, then compiz is likely to fail too
[05:47] <theshadow> stdin: thats what I feared
[05:49] <intelikey> Rob-West sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[05:49] <stdin> Rob-West: looks like you have a line like "deb p://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports univer$" in your sources.list, fix that
[05:49] <stdin> Rob-West: opps, that's "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports univer$" in your sources.list, fix that
[05:50] <Rob-West> is that why i cant update
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> Rob-West: fix universe in that line, i should work
[05:50] <stdin> probably
[05:52] <intelikey> Rob-West as me say afore   if you have fixed your sources.list  sudo apt-get update    should fix you.
[05:53] <stdin> the "fix you" part sounds dubious :P
[05:53] <Rob-West> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8051/
[05:53] <Rob-West> my repos
[05:54] <Jucato> Rob-West: lines 23 and 24 of that pastebin
[05:54] <stdin> Rob-West: did you copy it from nano or something ?
[05:54] <Rob-West> yea
[05:55] <stdin> the $ part is where the line continues off screen
[05:55] <intelikey> check the lines in your editor anyway.   if they are turncated or extruded that's the problemo
[05:55] <Rob-West> what should it look like
[05:55] <Rob-West> show me in PM
[05:56] <stdin> Rob-West: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8052/
[05:56] <Jucato> Rob-West: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:56] <stdin> Rob-West: removed some repeated repos too
[05:56] <Rob-West> thanks
[05:56] <Jucato> Rob-West: follow stdin
[05:56] <intelikey> #AUTOMATIX REPOS START
[05:56] <intelikey> heh
[05:56] <stdin> Rob-West: or just use source-o-matic
[05:56] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[05:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:56] <ubuntu> ajuda do brasil
[05:56] <ubuntu> ?
[05:57] <Rob-West> i use automatix so what
[05:57] <intelikey> !automatix | Rob-West
[05:57] <ubotu> Rob-West: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:57] <intelikey> !WorksForMe
[05:57] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:57] <stdin> !br | ubuntu
[05:57] <ubotu> ubuntu: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:58] <Rob-West> does this give me all i need
[05:58] <Dr_willis> i cheat and use that easysource site
[05:59] <stdin> Rob-West: yeah, that should be fine
[05:59] <Rob-West> ill use my repos
[06:00] <Rob-West> still getting errors when i try to do "apt-get upgrade""
[06:00] <Jucato> Rob-West: update first before upgrade
[06:00] <Rob-West> i did update
[06:00] <Ertain> After recording something with my mic, from the command line, I stopped the program.  I can't use my mic now.
[06:01] <stdin> Jucato: my brain wrote my script :P
[06:01] <nonuda_> how to mount smb?
[06:01] <stdin> nonuda_: install smbfs
[06:02] <stdin> Rob-West: post the errors to pastebin, from apt-get update
[06:02] <Rob-West> apt-get update gives no errors
[06:02] <intelikey> oh that guy with the second sound card, the one i had to skip out on,  did he get that fixed ?
[06:02] <Rob-West> the upgrade does
[06:03] <stdin> Rob-West: ok, post those then
[06:03] <Jucato> Rob-West: pastebin them
[06:03] <Jucato> gah! I can't type today
[06:03] <Rob-West> i did
[06:03] <Jucato> the new errors from sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:03] <Rob-West> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8049/
[06:03] <nonuda_> stdin, thanks, i'm installing now
[06:04] <Ertain> Drat, no one knows about my recording problem. :-(
[06:05] <Rob-West> im trying to fix my kubuntu
[06:06] <intelikey> Jucato that's not a recursive error he's getting is it ?   can't configure debtag because debtag is not configured ?     no nm.  it's not.
[06:06] <Rob-West> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8053/
[06:06] <intelikey> it's still a bad repo.
[06:06] <Rob-West> i used ur repo list u made
[06:07] <Jucato> hm...
[06:07] <intelikey> Rob-West the one i made ?
[06:07] <Rob-West> yea
[06:07] <intelikey> where did you find that ?
[06:07] <Jucato> that was from stdin
[06:07] <Rob-West> someone make me a repo list
[06:07] <stdin> yeah, I made it
[06:08] <Rob-West> will someone make me one
[06:08] <Rob-West> A GOOD ONE
[06:08] <stdin> Rob-West: use source-o-matic
[06:08] <Rob-West> idk what options to use
[06:08] <stdin> Rob-West: and the one I made was A GOOD ONE :P
[06:09] <shriphani_> and yes has anyone checked if the dapper main sources repo is working ?
[06:09] <intelikey> Rob-West  you can remove any "#" in that file you want to.
[06:09] <Rob-West> im gonna do them all
[06:09] <intelikey> you will need the cd   but that will work.
[06:10] <shriphani_> intelikey: you use dapper ?
[06:10] <intelikey> else leave the very first one in.
[06:10] <stdin> Rob-West: try this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8054/
[06:10] <intelikey> yes dapper
[06:10] <Rob-West> hang on
[06:10] <nonuda_> what is the different between browsing the network using smb:// and smbmount?
[06:11] <calcmandan> I installed boson through the apt repositories for 6.06.1 LTS and it crashes when I attempt to load a map. What information would anyone like from me to get to the root of the problem?
[06:11] <Rob-West> deb tag is messed up
[06:11] <stdin> nonuda_: smbmount mounts it to the filesystem tree, smb:// just browses the network, mounting it is like "mapping it to a drive" (windows term)
[06:11] <nightsky> with mount you can point to the smb share using a mount point on your local system
[06:12] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove debtag
[06:12] <Rob-West> i need to fix debtag
[06:12] <nonuda_> ok..thanks
[06:12] <Rob-West> can someone tell my y my mic wont work
[06:12] <nonuda_> i begin to love kubuntu since i can more understand about it.. :)
[06:13] <Rob-West> ill reinstall
[06:14] <reldruh> Rob-West: mine won't either, although I haven't tried it in a while.
[06:14] <Rob-West> i cant get my mic to work with skype
[06:14] <Rob-West> and its brand new
[06:14] <Rob-West> bbl
[06:15] <reldruh> does anybody know why mics don't seem to work in kubuntu?
[06:15] <intelikey> reload is good.    i used to reload twice a week whether i needed to or not...
[06:18] <intelikey> shriphani_ why did you ask ?
[06:20] <intelikey> shriphani_ from all the time outs you are having it could be network trubble on your end...
[06:21] <calcmandan> I installed boson through the apt repositories for 6.06.1 LTS and it crashes when I attempt to load a map. What information would anyone like from me to get to the root of the problem?
[06:24] <inept_> hello room
[06:24] <intelikey> calcmandan run it from a konsole and see if it burps out any error messages
[06:24] <calcmandan> hello inept
[06:24] <calcmandan> okay intelikey.
[06:24] <shriphani__> intelikey: i am gonna build an antenna for myself
[06:25] <calcmandan> alsa error msg: alsa_blitbuffer: Could not write audio data to sound device: Bad file descriptor
[06:25] <intelikey> wow  human networking...
[06:25] <intelikey> wireless at that.
[06:25] <shriphani__> intelikey: i am currently on a cracked wireless connection
[06:26] <inept_> are hearing aids considerd wireless?
[06:26] <sep1318> i don't think so o.O?
[06:26] <inept_> hmmmmmmmmmm
[06:27] <nonuda_> hoe to mount smb
[06:27] <intelikey> calcmandan  ls -l /dev/dsp*
[06:27] <ghetek> guys where do i add startup items? (im playing with beryl)
[06:28] <calcmandan> intelikey: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-02-27 22:37 /dev/dsp
[06:28] <intelikey> ghetek probably ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:28] <ghetek> intelikey: thanls
[06:28] <stdin> nonuda_: man mount.smb
[06:29] <ghetek> intelikey: this is a directory?
[06:29] <intelikey> calcmandan hmmm
[06:29] <stdin> ghetek: yeah
[06:29] <intelikey> ghetek i think i named it right.
[06:29] <ghetek> intelikey: so how would i add the command "beryl-manager" to there
[06:29] <stdin> ghetek: just add a link to the app in there and it will run at login
[06:29] <intelikey> !autostart
[06:29] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:30] <nonuda_> can i use GUI to mount smb rather then using the konsole?
[06:30] <stdin> nonuda_: smb4k
[06:30] <stdin> !smb4k
[06:30] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[06:30] <intelikey> calcmandan not enough information for me to go any farther.  maybe someone else.
[06:31] <calcmandan> Okay intelikey, thank you for trying though.
[06:31] <intelikey> calcmandan and i don't mean you haven't provided enough.  i mean i don't have enough.  :)
[06:31] <ghetek> i try to run kcontrol-autostart and nothing happens?
[06:31] <ghetek> w/o the questionmark
[06:31] <ghetek> !kcontrol-autostart
[06:31] <ubotu> kcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 268 kB
[06:32] <Jucato> ghetek: Alt+F2, run "kcontrol" then search for autostart there
[06:32] <nonuda_> can't find smb4k in adept manager
[06:32] <Jucato> !info smb4k
[06:32] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[06:33] <intelikey>  universe
[06:33] <stdin> !universe
[06:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:35] <slyfox> I have autoconf 2.60, why do I get this?
[06:35] <slyfox> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[06:35] <slyfox> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[06:35] <intelikey> slyfox why are you compiling kde ?
[06:36] <nonuda_> how to install smb4k
[06:36] <Nhatz> yo jucato
[06:36] <Nhatz> hehehe
[06:36] <stdin> nonuda_: follow this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu to enable universe, then install it in adept
[06:36] <slyfox> intelikey: I simply want to install this small program http://xoomer.alice.it/rockman81/kmobiletools/
[06:36] <slyfox> intelikey: following the isntructions does not help - Simply download, extract, and run "./compile-kmobiletools.sh".
[06:36] <intelikey> nonuda_ enable the universe repo in the /etc/apt/sources.list   update the database and install it.
[06:37] <nonuda_> stdin, thanks
[06:37] <slyfox> intelikey: Simply download, extract, and run "./compile-kmobiletools.sh".
[06:37] <slyfox> intelikey:
[06:37] <intelikey> slyfox and you have build-essential installed ?
[06:37] <slyfox> /admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found
[06:37] <slyfox> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[06:37] <slyfox> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[06:37] <slyfox> make: *** [cvs]  Error 1
[06:37] <slyfox> ./compile-kmobiletools.sh: line 5: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:37] <slyfox> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:37] <slyfox> intelikey: let me see
[06:37] <Jucato> !pastebin | slyfox
[06:37] <ubotu> slyfox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <slyfox> intelikey: yes, isntalled
[06:37] <Jucato> Nhatz: yes?
[06:38] <slyfox> Jucato: did you sync the phone ?
[06:38] <intelikey> slyfox kdevelop installed ?
[06:38] <Jucato> slyfox: haven't even tried yet... procrastinating is fun
[06:38] <teacher> is there any body to know how to install firefox on kubuntu
[06:38] <Jucato> slyfox: it's an svn snapshot. you need an updated admin directory from svn
[06:38] <intelikey> teacher sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[06:38] <slyfox> intelikey: installing kdevelop
[06:39] <stdin> teacher: or install it with adept
[06:39] <intelikey> slyfox see Jucato above.
[06:39] <slyfox> Jucato: that sounds confusing, I think I'll just try the latest beta instead of these svn things
[06:39] <stdin> slyfox: works here, make sure you have autoconf installed
[06:40] <slyfox> stdin: I reinstalled it twice, adept says I have 2.60 installed
[06:40] <Jucato> slyfox: how about automake?
[06:40] <intelikey> aren't both of those covered in b-e ?
[06:40] <stdin> intelikey: nope
[06:40] <slyfox> Jucato: let me see
[06:40] <Jucato> intelikey: nope
[06:41] <slyfox> Jucato: installing automake 1.9,
[06:41] <Jucato> oh there
[06:41] <Jucato> so you don't need the admin directory after all lol
[06:41] <bhsx> hi, just installed 6.10 and trying to figure out how to make win32 my default grub load
[06:41] <Jucato> autoconf and automakego together
[06:41] <bhsx> cant find it in system settigns
[06:41] <slyfox> Jucato: now it works ! it is installign something
[06:41] <teacher> how
[06:42] <Jucato> !grub | bhsx
[06:42] <ubotu> bhsx: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:42] <Jucato> bhsx: the GrubHowto ^^^
[06:42] <bhsx> ta
[06:42] <stdin> teacher: open adept (Kmenu -> System -> Adept Manager), search for firefox, and install it
[06:42] <Jucato> teacher: or just type in Konsole: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:42] <Jucato> or..
[06:43] <slyfox> stdin: after I isntall it, how do I launch it ?
[06:43] <intelikey> is this a bug in  grep  ?   http://pastebin.ca/376678
[06:43] <Jucato> stdin: kmobiletools in the K Menu.. not sure w/c submenu
[06:43] <stdin> slyfox: ^^
[06:44] <slyfox> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:44] <stdin> !xincludes
[06:44] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[06:44] <stdin> slyfox: you probably just need xorg-dev
[06:45] <slyfox> stdin: let me try
[06:46] <teacher> stdin: txs
[06:46] <stdin> slyfox: you may want to do "sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools" to grab the deps
[06:46] <nonuda_> stdin, i have the link u gave me, download and fetch the updates, but i still can't find smb4k
[06:46] <slyfox> ARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.
[06:46] <slyfox> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
[06:46] <slyfox> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:46] <Jucato> slyfox: last warning. use pastebin or paste only 1 line
[06:46] <Jucato> slyfox: libqt3-mt-dev
[06:46] <stdin> slyfox: and install kde-devel
[06:47] <slyfox> Jucato: ok, sorry
[06:47] <slyfox> I just did this sudo apt-get build-dep kmobiletools and it is installing a lot of stuff
[06:47] <nonuda_> and i see the samba status is not installed, its wierd since i can browse the windows network using smb://
[06:47] <Jucato> stdin: most often than not, kdelibs4-dev is enough
[06:47] <stdin> nonuda_: "samba" is the server
[06:48] <nonuda_> oh i see, but why i can't find smb4k in adept manager?
[06:48] <stdin> nonuda_: not sure, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache search smb4k"
[06:48] <slyfox> nonuda_: what do u need with samba ?
[06:49] <stdin> slyfox: a GUI for mounting a smb share
[06:49] <nonuda_> no i don't need samba, i want to map network drive using mount smb
[06:49] <Nhatz> hi ate ulinskie
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> wow, never seen that one before
[06:49] <slyfox> nonuda_: I just use autofs
[06:50] <Jucato> Nhatz: you were looking for me?
[06:50] <Jucato> why?
[06:50] <nonuda_> what is autofs
[06:51] <slyfox> nonuda_: http://www.diigo.com/redirect?http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D2068304
[06:51] <stdin> !autofs
[06:51] <ubotu> autofs: kernel-based automounter for Linux. In component main, is extra. Version 4.1.4-11 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 468 kB
[06:51] <slyfox> nonuda_: read the 2nd last post
[06:51] <nonuda_> ok, thanks
[06:51] <Nhatz> jucato; we just missed u back in the other room
[06:51] <Jucato> Nhatz: I'll eventually return. after some time. see ya
[06:52] <Nhatz> jucato: ok :-D
[06:52] <slyfox> Jucato: kmobiletools just asked to me to do "make" I did it and it did a lot of stuff I do not understand, it finished, now what ?
[06:53] <stdin> slyfox: normally you just do "sudo make install" to install it
[06:53] <nonuda_> stdin, after apt-get update and apt-cache search smb4k, nothing happens with the search
[06:53] <Jucato> slyfox: what stdin said
[06:53] <Jucato> nonuda_: do you have the correct universe repository enabled?
[06:54] <slyfox> Jucato: stdin: cool it launched
[06:54] <stdin> nonuda_: can you post the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin, you can open it in kate, then just copy and paste it
[06:54] <stdin> slyfox: compiling is fun :P
[06:54] <Jucato> it's addictive...
[06:55] <slyfox> stdin: one day i will understand what I jsut did
[06:55] <elyon225> Is it possible to tag MP3 files with multiple artists in Amarok?
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> garbage...i did that on Fedora, nothing works
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> elyon225: what do you mean?
[06:55] <Jucato> slyfox: the day you understand that, you'll be a guru... only very few people actually can decipher the output of cmake :)
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> as in Prince, Charles, Amamander all come up for one track under artist search
[06:55] <nonuda_> yes, i enable : http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ type deb and deb-src with component main resticted universe multiverse
[06:56] <reldruh> how would I check if my microphone is working correctly in kubuntu?
[06:56] <elyon225> Admiral_Chicago: For example, I have a couple of duet songs and would like them to appear under each artist... right now, for example, I have an entry for "Peter Cetera & Cher".
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> elyon225: so if you search Cher OR Cetera, it would come up with that song?
[06:57] <Jucato> !pastebin | nonuda_
[06:57] <ubotu> nonuda_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:57] <Jucato> nonuda_: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[06:57] <elyon225> Admiral_Chicago: Well, I would like the artist listing in Amarok to list "Peter Cetera" and another entry for "Cher"... both containing the same track.
[06:57] <Jucato> I can see smb4k from the indonesian repos...
[06:58] <intelikey> ok it seems that my search has ended with two delimas  1. \n does not work from the command line as a char for grep to search for.   and 2. $ works  but can't be used in a variable.
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> elyon225: ya thats what i thought you wanted. I don't know of that being possible. maybe in #amarok
[06:58] <nonuda_> ok..i'm going to pastebins...
[06:58] <Jucato> intelikey: \\n ?
[06:58] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago!
[06:58] <intelikey> Jucato no
[06:58] <elyon225> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah, I've tried #amarok... never anyone talking there.  I know with a few different Windows players I used, it was simple (just a seperate tag for "Album Artists" or "Additional Artists").
[06:58] <Jucato> intelikey: ah nvm lol
[06:58] <intelikey> Jucato grep doesn't understand \n
[06:59] <stdin> I could never get \n to work in grep, or sed for that matter :(
[06:59] <Jucato> intelikey: maybe \r or \l?
[06:59] <nonuda_> and now where can i find the sources.list?
[06:59] <Jucato> nonuda_: in /etc/apt/
[07:00] <intelikey> Jucato no it doesn't see them correctly.  it doesn't interpret \?
[07:00] <Jucato> O.o
[07:00] <slyfox> nonuda_: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:01] <slyfox> nonuda_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <nonuda_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8059/ there u go
[07:02] <slyfox> Jucato: I spend a full day today trying to get my phone to sync, no luck. Thought of Windows Vista appear in my mind, this sucks.
[07:02] <stdin> nonuda_: you only enabled the backports one, you nee to add universe to the first line
[07:02] <Jucato> slyfox: I think you're looking at the wrong tool perhaps? I don't know of kmoblietools syncs phones w/ kontact too... try researching on opensync
[07:02] <nonuda_> oh i see..ok try it now
[07:03] <slyfox> Jucato: opensync is what I spent doing all day
[07:03] <Jucato> ok
[07:03] <slyfox> Jucato: it connects, but gives an error in return, maybe soemthing to do with KDE 3.5.6
[07:03] <Jucato> or something with Kubuntu. who knows..
[07:04] <slyfox> Jucato: Is Vista as bad as they say ? I mean I can get a it for free, it comes with my new laptop.
[07:04] <Jucato> dunno. I don't have it
[07:06] <elyon225> slyfox: EVERY review I've read of it says it truly is as bad...
[07:06] <intelikey> hmmm  tr -d '\n'   will make one line out of it's input
[07:06] <elyon225> slyfox: The whole DRM and "activation" thing has totally turned me off to Microsoft now...
[07:06] <faisal> guys.. I am using Ubuntu MMC
[07:06] <faisal> can anyone tell me which THEMES i will be able to use.. in GNOME
[07:07] <faisal> id be thankful
[07:07] <elyon225> faisal: You can use any themes made for Gnome...
[07:07] <stdin> faisal: any gnome theme
[07:07] <elyon225> faisal: Check out www.gnome-look.org
[07:07] <faisal> thanks guys. I am on that website..
[07:07] <faisal> it has GTK 1.x GTK 2.x
[07:07] <faisal> GDM
[07:07] <Jucato> !themes | faisal
[07:07] <ubotu> faisal: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:09] <intelikey> oh kool.  \r will put the cursor back at the beginning of line without a line feed...  heh   so text with \r and more text \r will keep overwriting itself...
[07:10] <stdin> heh, yeah
[07:10] <intelikey> i can have a 100k text file that "cat" can only display one word.   lol
[07:11] <intelikey> [prompt@~]  cat file.txt
[07:11] <intelikey> nothing
[07:11] <intelikey> [prompt@~] 
[07:16] <teacher> how can i install these themes??????????
[07:16] <Admiral_Chicago> !changethemes
[07:17] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> the second link thea
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> teacher: ^^
[07:17] <teacher> where
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> teacher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu\
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry the second link
[07:17] <jose__> hi everybody :)
[07:17] <nonuda_> now i can find smb4k, thanks
[07:18] <jose__> i have a "problem" with kubuntu Edgy Eft
[07:18] <jose__> i upgraded my PC's RAM from 256MB to 512MB but it still only uses 256MB
[07:19] <jose__> what am i doing wrong???
[07:19] <Admiral_Chicago> jose__: how do you know
[07:19] <jose__> i checked with kinfocenter
[07:19] <ghetek> i have a fish:// directory in kubuntu that i want to sync to a folder on my hd
[07:20] <jose__> it recognized 502MB but only uses 256MB
[07:20] <ghetek> grsync didnt work
[07:20] <shriphani__> ghetek: sync to a hd ?
[07:21] <shriphani__> why cant you just copy it
[07:21] <teacher> txs
[07:21] <ghetek> shriphani__: its too big and i already have some of it transferred
[07:21] <jose__> is there anything i can do???
[07:21] <shriphani__> ghetek: you mean the copying stalled ?
[07:22] <ghetek> shriphani__: i want sync because i am always updating the directory locally and i want a mirror image online that is always up to date
[07:22] <ghetek> shriphani__: even if it is a cron job that runs at night
[07:22] <shriphani__> oh
[07:23] <intelikey> jose__ free -m
[07:23] <ghetek> shriphani__: its an ssh account online, my hosting company gave me 200gb
[07:24] <jose__> total 502 used 495 free 6
[07:24] <jose__> so everything is fine???
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone tell me the syntax to play a video from terminal
[07:24] <shriphani__> a home made beowulf though
[07:24] <nonuda_> smb4k has installed, now how can i mapping the network drive?
[07:24] <intelikey> jose__ so it's using 512m
[07:24] <shriphani__> Admiral_Chicago: kaffeine video ?
[07:24] <intelikey> what's the question again ?
[07:24] <reldruh> how would I test whether or not my microphone is working?
[07:24] <jose__> thanks a lot intelikey
[07:25] <stdin> nonuda_: just open it, it's quite an easy GUI, and it has help pages too :)
[07:25] <intelikey> that's what i thought it was...
[07:25] <jose__> thank god for this channel
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> shriphani__: there is a way to do it in VLC
[07:25] <jose__> thanks a lot guys
[07:25] <intelikey> jose__ welcome.
[07:25] <jose__> why don't u use mplayer
[07:25] <jose__> ???
[07:25] <shriphani__> Admiral_Chicago: vlc is cli ?
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> shriphani__: it has a GUI frontend and a terminal back end
[07:25] <nonuda_> oh i see, its in the utilities, thanks...i'm out now, thanks guys
[07:26] <intelikey> shriphani__ it will run in or out of the gui
[07:26] <shriphani__> ooh
[07:27] <shriphani__> i am really loving knetwork-manager
[07:27] <jose__> thanks a lot intelikey
[07:27] <jose__> byebye :)
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: any idea?
[07:27] <teacher> anybody: know counter strike irc server
[07:27] <intelikey> jose__ welcome.      but didn't we just do this bit.
[07:27] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago about ?
[07:28] <Admiral_Chicago> the syntax to play a video from terminal for VLC
[07:28] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, you knew it once
[07:28] <Jucato> intelikey = cli-freak
[07:28] <intelikey> yeah you remember correctly.   now if i did....
[07:29] <nonuda_> oopss...error messages, an error occured while trying to mount the share, detail: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[07:29] <teacher> ;
[07:29] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago vlc --display 800x600x16 -f something....   it's been a while.
[07:30] <intelikey> and it requires either frame buffering deamon or svgalibs  one or tother to get any satisfatcion out of it.
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, negative...
[07:31] <teacher> after firefox installed in adept how can i open
[07:31] <intelikey> but when you get it setup right and the command right it's as clean/crisp/seemeless of a vidio as i have ever seen.
[07:31] <Jucato> teacher: K Menu -> Internet
[07:32] <stdin> teacher: from the Kmenu, or, if it's not there, press Alt-F2 and type in: firefox
[07:32] <intelikey> i had a script set up that i used all time Admiral_Chicago   i'll have to see if i still have it.
[07:32] <stdin> teacher: if it's not there, it will be after you logout and back in
[07:32] <Jucato> stdin: er?
[07:33] <stdin> Jucato: er? what?
[07:33] <Jucato> if a newly installed app doesn't appear immediately in the K Menu (even though it should), press Alt+F2, and run "kbuildsycoca"
[07:33] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago heh the command i remember was     vidio filename.avi      or what ever format...  cause that was the script name...
[07:33] <stdin> Jucato: I can never remember that command, I just do "dcop kicker kicker restart" :P
[07:34] <Jucato> restarting kicker doesn't always work  though.. iirc
[07:34] <stdin> Jucato: always worked here
[07:34] <teacher> let me try
[07:34] <Jucato> !kmenu_update
[07:34] <ubotu> If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[07:34] <teacher> ok
[07:34] <teacher> i'll try
[07:35] <nonuda_> i can't see smbmnt in adept manager
[07:36] <stdin> nonuda_: it's in smbfs
[07:36] <nonuda_> ok, then why smb4k said it must be installed suid root?
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> grr, google is not helping
[07:38] <nonuda_> stdin?
[07:39] <intelikey> bah  that's not the one but it's a music randomizer/player for the cli     http://pastebin.ca/376725       still looking.
[07:39] <stdin> nonuda_: you may need to run: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount and sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmount and sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[07:41] <nonuda_> ok..i have done it, should i restart the pc?
[07:42] <stdin> nonuda_: shouldn't have to, at most you'll need to logout and back in
[07:42] <nonuda_> ok
[07:42] <stdin> nonuda_: try just restarting smb4k first
[07:44] <nonuda_> done, now i have another error: libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root
[07:45] <stdin> nonuda_: argg :P ok try sudo chmod -s /usr/bin/smbmount and sudo chmod -s /usr/bin/smbumount , that may help
[07:46] <nonuda_> Done...
[07:46] <nonuda_> now its works...thanks
[07:46] <stdin> you're welcome :)
[07:47] <nonuda_> ok thanks again stdin, got to do some test with wine..i'm out...
[07:51] <kgx>  is anyone a pro with excel/open office here?
[07:51] <kgx>  basiclly i need an equivalent of this sql statement in excel: SELECT COUNT(*) FROM worksheet GROUP BY invoiceno
[07:51] <kgx> exporting as csv to a db is not an answer :p (although that works)
[07:51] <Jucato> !openoffice
[07:52] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:53] <amrush> hi guys ..
[07:54] <amrush> i have a broken package(samba) and i can't update my system just because of that ... and i really never dealed with a broken package before
[07:54] <Rob-West> ok
[07:54] <Rob-West> i have a fresh install of ubuntu
[07:54] <Rob-West> kubuntu*
[07:58] <amrush> anyone to help me solve my problem ?
[08:01] <brandon> I do not know how to enable it.
[08:01] <brandon> Anyone here?
[08:02] <arrenlex> brandon: Sorry, missed the first half of that. What can't you enable?
[08:02] <brandon> Admin mode
[08:02] <brandon> Admin features
[08:02] <arrenlex> brandon: I take it you're clicking the "administrator mode" button in kcontrol?
[08:02] <brandon> yes
[08:02] <arrenlex> brandon: And what is it telling you?
[08:02] <brandon> nothing
[08:03] <brandon> i click it and then nothing happened
[08:03] <arrenlex> brandon: And what happens if you try to run the command "kdesu kedit" from the terminal?
[08:03] <Jucato> kedit isn't installed by default
[08:03] <brandon> let me try that
[08:04] <arrenlex> Jucato: Oh, my bad. What's a simple app that is?
[08:04] <brandon> ?
[08:04] <Jucato> kwrite or kate
[08:04] <arrenlex> brandon: Try "kdesu kwrite" then.
[08:04] <arrenlex> Thanks, Jucato.
[08:04] <Jucato> brandon: where are you tyring to click on Administrator Mode
[08:04] <brandon> sytem setting > user management
[08:05] <Jucato> ah..
[08:05] <Jucato> try closing System Settings and trying again?
[08:05] <Rob-West> sup Jucato
[08:05] <Jucato> not too good
[08:06] <brandon> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command
[08:06] <brandon> kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0
[08:06] <brandon> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command
[08:06] <brandon> kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0
[08:06] <brandon> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:06] <Rob-West> well i fixed kubuntu
[08:06] <brandon> Xlib:
[08:06] <brandon> No protocol specified
[08:06] <brandon> kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:06] <Jucato> !pastebin | brandon
[08:06] <ubotu> brandon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <Rob-West> brandon use a PASTE BIN
[08:06] <Rob-West> jeeze
[08:06] <arrenlex> I think that would be your problem right there.
[08:06] <brandon> sorry man,  thank you
[08:07] <brandon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8060/
[08:07] <brandon> like that>?
[08:07] <arrenlex> brandon: Yep, that's how you use pastebin.
[08:07] <arrenlex> brandon: Although it's too late now. xD
[08:07] <posingaspopular> can someone explain to me about trolltech being a kde sponsor etc. i read that in the news but wanted to know more
[08:07] <brandon> lol,,  i know
[08:08] <arrenlex> brandon: What does this say? ps aux | grep X | grep -v grep
[08:08] <Jucato> posingaspopular: basically it just means that they donated an amount of money, and now they can say they're a KDE sponsor
[08:08] <arrenlex> brandon: (say == output when run in terminal)
[08:08] <Jucato> but that's offtopic now
[08:08] <posingaspopular> Jucato: it'll still be free though?
[08:09] <brandon> ?
[08:09] <flaccid> well kde is part of kubuntu
[08:09] <Jucato> posingaspopular: huh? it has nothing to do with price.
[08:09] <flaccid> so its on topic
[08:09] <flaccid> :p
[08:09] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i didn't mean free beer
[08:09] <Jucato> don't even get me started flaccid
[08:09] <flaccid> hehe
[08:10] <flaccid> its not free beer, its free speeh
[08:10] <Jucato> posingaspopular: dude, Trolltech just donated  money to KDE. that's it
[08:10] <seven11_> hello i need some help with GeForce FX 5200
[08:10] <posingaspopular> Jucato: kthanks
[08:10] <Jucato> posingaspopular: http://dot.kde.org/1172617283/
[08:10] <seven11_> in etc/X11 the driver is nv
[08:11] <arrenlex> brandon: Did you catch waht I said?
[08:11] <arrenlex> what?
[08:11] <arrenlex> (00:08:24) arrenlex: brandon: What does this say? ps aux | grep X | grep -v grep
[08:11] <LL_Hakaisou> hello
[08:11] <brandon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8061/
[08:11] <arrenlex> !hi | LL_Hakaisou
[08:11] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:11] <arrenlex> brandon: If it's <= 2 lines, you can paste it here. Pastebin is so you don't flood the channel.
[08:12] <seven11_> what driver do i need for GeForce FX 5200
[08:12] <LL_Hakaisou> so i just got a motorola Q, and I wanna connect it to linux.
[08:12] <arrenlex> 1nvidia | seven11_
[08:12] <arrenlex> !nvidia | seven11_
[08:12] <ubotu> seven11_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:12] <seven11_> thanks
[08:12] <LL_Hakaisou> anyoen know where i should start on this?
[08:12] <brandon> alrigh
[08:12] <LL_Hakaisou> !windowsmobile
[08:12] <Rob-West> if i install my video can i just restart X or do i need to reboot the whole PC
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsmobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <amrush> i have a broken package(samba) and i can't update my system just because of that ... and i really never dealed with a broken package before
[08:12] <LL_Hakaisou> !windows mobile
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <arrenlex> brandon: Looks fine, sorry... I don't know what's wrong. You could always try rebooting, I suppose; maybe it's just a misconfiguration.
[08:13] <LL_Hakaisou> !wine
[08:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:13] <brandon> I have tried it
[08:13] <arrenlex> LL_Hakaisou: Google for synce. If it's a smartphone chances are it won't work, though. synce is for pdas.
[08:13] <arrenlex> LL_Hakaisou: Wine won't help you. It doesn't do drivers.
[08:14] <Jucato> also try researching on opensync
[08:16] <Radica1Faith1231> hello
[08:16] <Radica1Faith1231> i'm back
[08:16] <arrenlex> Does anyone else find kubuntu's kde absurdly slow and laggy, whereas Debian's KDE is a lot more snappy for some reason?
[08:16] <stdin> nope
[08:16] <Radica1Faith1231> cbx33 are you there?
[08:17] <flaccid> pcbsd kde is snappier than both debian and ubuntu
[08:17] <brandon> Whn i clikc administrator mode it goes to a admistrative sceen and then goes out
[08:17] <arrenlex> brandon: Oh, this is an idea. What does "sudo echo hello" do?
[08:17] <|lostbyte|> !beryl
[08:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:18] <brandon> it says hello after the command
[08:18] <Jucato> brandon: "kdesu systemsettings" will run System Settings w/ admin privileges immediately
[08:18] <arrenlex> Jucato: He can't run things with kdesu, though, as we found.
[08:18] <arrenlex> Jucato: That's what this is about: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8060/
[08:18] <Jucato> here's to hoping it runs this time...
[08:19] <Jucato> :(
[08:19] <blankfaze> i just tried installing beryl.  i didn't like it that much.  i want something more kdecentric
[08:19] <arrenlex> Jucato: Oh, you're using the "if it doesn't work keep trying" method xD
[08:19] <arrenlex> blankfaze: The aquamarine window decorator for beryl has KDE decorations.
[08:20] <brandon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8062/
[08:20] <Radica1Faith1231> is it safe to resize the root partition if there is plenty of space?
[08:20] <blankfaze> arrenlex:  yeah, but beryl-manager looks too gnomey.
[08:20] <arrenlex> !gtk2-engines-gtk-qt | blankfaze
[08:20] <ubotu> blankfaze: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.70-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 364 kB
[08:20] <amrush> guys is this a support chat or what ?
[08:20] <arrenlex> amrush: Yep
[08:21] <Jucato> brandon: pls don't PM, I can see it fine here
[08:21] <brandon> sorry,  i really didnt mean to
[08:21] <amrush> ok i have a problem ... a broken package (samba) and i don't know how to fix it ...
[08:21] <flaccid> amrush: what
[08:21] <brandon> ..Lol  iwas tying to make it beep like you did
[08:21] <blankfaze> arrenlex:  yeah, i reckon.  i think beryl has a lot of promise but i think i will wait a few versions down the line.
[08:21] <flaccid> amrush: pastebin the error
[08:22] <blankfaze> i really liked the cube plugin though... except for some reason i couldn't seem to get different wallpapers on each side
[08:22] <Jucato> brandon: just say my name in here and it will beep me
[08:22] <arrenlex> blankfaze: Yeah. I ran into a weird bug where it didn't update the contents of my windows until I moved them. That was annoying.
[08:22] <brandon> Jucato: lol alright thank you, did you find anything out with the error in console
[08:22] <brandon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8062/
[08:23] <brandon> lol
[08:23] <Jucato> :(
[08:23] <Jucato> stdin: pls take over
[08:23] <flaccid> Jucato: i think you need a beer br0
[08:24] <brandon> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8062/
[08:24] <stdin> hmm...
[08:25] <stdin> brandon: maybe try "xhost +LOCAL:" then run kdesu systemsettings
[08:26] <amrush> http://www.pastebin.ca/376750
[08:26] <amrush> ^^flaccis
[08:26] <amrush> flaccid sorry
[08:26] <brandon> o...:/ something happened
[08:26] <arrenlex> amrush: You way that to people often? =P
[08:26] <stdin> brandon: something good, or bad?
[08:27] <brandon> dont know
[08:27] <flaccid> amrush: have you read the error message?
[08:27] <amrush> :P ... ya sure i didi usin -f right now ... and waiting for the error to pop up
[08:27] <stdin> brandon: what's happening then?
[08:27] <brandon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8064/
[08:27] <amrush> as the case was few days ago
[08:27] <flaccid> ok
[08:28] <stdin> hmm
[08:28] <arrenlex> brandon: When it doubt: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=kdesu+%28kdelibs%29%3A+WARNING%3A+No+X+authentication+info+set+for+display+%3A0.0
[08:28] <stdin> brandon: what does "echo $DISPLAY" say?
[08:28] <brandon> i already tried google
[08:28] <brandon> IRC channels are the best when it comes to help
[08:29] <tauri> !wmp
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <tauri> !windows media player
[08:29] <arrenlex> tauri: problems?
[08:29] <tauri> ok...
[08:29] <tauri> i need the codecs
[08:29] <brandon> echo $DISPLAY
[08:29] <brandon> :0.0
[08:29] <arrenlex> ~w32 | tauri
[08:29] <irida> tauri: w32codecs available at: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/edgy-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:30] <tauri> thx
[08:30] <posingaspopular> what is w32?
[08:30] <tauri> windows?
[08:30] <cpk1> tauri: you can get the rest of the codecs by using apt to get libxine-extracodecs
[08:30] <tauri> k
[08:30] <brandon> stdin: echo $DISPLAY :0.0
[08:30] <stdin> brandon: that's strange it's not working
[08:31] <brandon> what isnt?
[08:31] <stdin> brandon: kdesu
[08:31] <stdin> brandon: how long has it not been working?
[08:31] <brandon> i just installed it like a few hours ago
[08:31] <brandon> first time with linux'
[08:32] <brandon> probably.
[08:32] <stdin> brandon: try logging out, and back in
[08:32] <arrenlex> !version | brandon
[08:32] <ubotu> brandon: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:32] <stdin> kdesu works on feisty here
[08:32] <tauri> how do i install those codecs?
[08:32] <arrenlex> tauri: Download the .deb file and sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:32] <arrenlex> in that folder
[08:32] <arrenlex> Or you can just tabcomplete the name.
[08:33] <tauri> ok
[08:33] <brandon> No LSB modules are available.
[08:33] <brandon> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[08:33] <brandon> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[08:33] <brandon> Release:        6.10Codename:       edgy
[08:33] <stdin> edgy it is then
[08:33] <arrenlex> brandon: And what does "dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop | grep "^ii " | wc -l" say?
[08:34] <brandon> lol..
[08:34] <brandon> 1
[08:34] <arrenlex> Well I'm beat.
[08:34] <stdin> brandon: try logging out, and back in, see if that helps
[08:35] <brandon> will do
[08:35] <arrenlex> brandon: On a whim... what does 'whoami' say?
[08:36] <brandon> me
[08:36] <arrenlex> brandon: Nope. Thought you might be trying to run as root somehow. Nevermind... good luck.
[08:36] <brandon> ill be back
[08:36] <flaccid> amrush: so no error?
[08:37] <KennethP> If my Firefox doesn't play tv-streams in the Mplayer plugin is that a codecs problem?
[08:37] <rob-west> can someone help me install opengl
[08:37] <rob-west> i messed up last time
[08:37] <rob-west> i want some help
[08:37] <posingaspopular> !opengl
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <amrush> flaccid: download speed is down the drain ... gonna wait longer apparaantely
[08:38] <arrenlex> KennethP: Can mplayer itself play those same files?
[08:38] <flaccid> ok
[08:38] <arrenlex> !ati | rob-west
[08:38] <ubotu> rob-west: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <rob-west> no
[08:38] <KennethP> arrenlex: will try that. sound is ok.
[08:38] <rob-west> i want someone to guide me through it
[08:39] <tauri> !directx
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about directx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <tauri> wrarg
[08:39] <tauri> does linux use directx?
[08:39] <flaccid> rob-west: it guides you, you don't need extra guide
[08:39] <arrenlex> tauri: No. xD
[08:39] <tauri> so...
[08:39] <flaccid> but feel free to ask something specific if you dont understand
[08:39] <tauri> damn
[08:39] <firecrotch> Is anyone in here familiar with PHP (##php is completely ignoring my question and staying completely off-topic, as usual) ?
[08:40] <rob-west> oh so when i mess up again
[08:40] <flaccid> firecrotch: whats the question
[08:40] <tauri> i want to play warcraft 3 using wine, but its laggy as hell
[08:40] <KennethP> arrenlex: doh - where do I enter a URL in Mplayer?...:)
[08:40] <flaccid> rob-west: all part of linux/learning
[08:40] <firecrotch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8065/   None of the variables in the switch are being set
[08:40] <arrenlex> tauri: Do you often wish Linux implemented proprietary APIs made by microsoft?
[08:40] <tauri> um... no?
[08:40] <flaccid> firecrotch: how is that off=topic
[08:40] <arrenlex> KennethP: Just start it from the command line. "mplayer <url>"
[08:41] <KennethP> arrenlex: ahhh tnx
[08:41] <posingaspopular> do using the M$ word
[08:41] <posingaspopular> no*
[08:41] <firecrotch> flaccid: everyone in ##php is chatting about some nonsense
[08:42] <flaccid> well the switch looks fine
[08:42] <flaccid> did you do an echo $varname directly after assigning one of the vars?
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:43] <firecrotch> I have it at the end of the script - it's not setting anything within the switch
[08:43] <crystufer2000> How can I specify a run path via terminal without cd?
[08:43] <rob-west> this guide is for ubuntu
[08:43] <flaccid> firecrotch: test it directly after you assign one of the vars in the case
[08:43] <stdin> crystufer2000: just use the full path
[08:43] <brandon> hello
[08:44] <stdin> brandon: have you tested it again?
[08:44] <crystufer2000> stdin No, I mean specify the working directory.
[08:44] <flaccid> rob-west: don't priv msg me!
[08:44] <rob-west> im trying to say something
[08:44] <rob-west> that guide is not for Kubuntu
[08:45] <brandon> not yet.  why does my irc client look different now,  and i cant hear tones on this
[08:45] <flaccid> say it here
[08:45] <stdin> crystufer2000: ahh, maybe setting the $PWD var?
[08:45] <LL_Hakaisou> !WoW
[08:45] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:45] <arrenlex> rob-west: It's all commands. What's the difference?
[08:45] <flaccid> which guide are you looking at rob-west?
[08:45] <arrenlex> !ati | flaccid
[08:45] <ubotu> flaccid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:45] <firecrotch> flaccid: echoing it right after setting it does nothing
[08:45] <rob-west> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-c737a8e39e49d924079ba3097055127ad3bb6cc8
[08:45] <rob-west> for nvidia
[08:46] <stdin> brandon: maybe you are running at a higher resolution now
[08:46] <crystufer2000> stdin the what now?
[08:46] <rob-west> because i have an nvidia MX 420
[08:46] <flaccid> firecrotch: echo $action on line before the switch to see if that was set
[08:46] <stdin> crystufer2000: like "PWD=/path/to/working/dir command"
[08:46] <brandon> the layout looks different tho
[08:46] <stdin> brandon: no sure then
[08:47] <flaccid> !repos > rob-west
[08:47] <flaccid> read that rob on how to enable restricted repos/packages
[08:47] <brandon> stdin: i still cant use admin functions
[08:48] <firecrotch> flaccid: $action is definitely set before going into the switch, it echo's
[08:49] <flaccid> echo it within each case to see if any case is being triggered
[08:49] <rob-west> ill use gnome to install my drivers
[08:51] <firecrotch> flaccid: Okay, none of the cases are being triggered
[08:54] <tulga> I cannot install Edgy on wide screen laptop. howto fix it?
[08:55] <flaccid> firecrotch: echo before the case and in each switch and then compare the echo $action to the value of $_POST['action']  and the case values etc.
[08:55] <rob-west> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:55] <rob-west> whats this mean
[08:57] <brandon> alright Iam back
[08:59] <K`zan> Anyone know if wpa-psk is doable on the live cd for wireless?  6.08 at least had wep (useless to me) and 6.10 doesn't seem to have anything and help is useless :-(.
[08:59] <tulga> I cannot install Edgy on wide screen laptop. X started. but my display black. howto fix it?
[08:59] <brandon> Could someone please help
[09:00] <brandon> I lost the person that was helping me before
[09:01] <brandon> I cannot run admin functions'
[09:01] <K`zan> Uh, never mind 6.10 unlike 6.08 doesn't even find the card.  Sigh.  Thanks anyway folks.
[09:01] <flaccid> K`zan: install wpasupplicant ?
[09:02] <K`zan> flaccid: on the live CD, don't think so :-).
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> damnit!
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> i can't install wine for some reason!!!
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> adept keeps telling me it will break something
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> and installing from command line says i need vmware-player
[09:03] <brandon> PLease someone help me get admin functions on my kubuntu
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> but i try to install that, and it can't find in apt-get, and adept won't install anything
[09:04] <firecrotch> flaccid: that doesn't help at all
[09:04] <flaccid> firecrotch: doing stuff like comparing values is all you can do reallly
[09:05] <flaccid> the casing matches up?
[09:05] <brandon> flaccid: could you possibly help me
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware
[09:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:06] <dewey> brandon, try to open up snaptic up.
[09:06] <dewey> and what happens?
[09:06] <firecrotch> flaccid: all of the values are equal where they should be
[09:06] <brandon> how do I do that
[09:06] <firecrotch> flaccid: there's absolutely no reason why $action is not triggering any case
[09:07] <flaccid> firecrotch: thats how it looked to me
[09:07] <flaccid> brandon: whats ya prob
[09:07] <brandon> I cant get admin functions
[09:07] <dewey> brandon, go to k menu - system - syanptic package manager
[09:07] <flaccid> firecrotch: i didn't see anything wrong there
[09:07] <flaccid> brandon: what is an admin function?
[09:08] <brandon> administor mofe
[09:08] <brandon> mode**
[09:08] <dewey> brandon, yeah what are you doing?
[09:08] <flaccid> brandon: i've found that to be common on kubuntu
[09:09] <brandon> trying to enable aministrator mode
[09:09] <dragon_> Hello
[09:09] <brandon> could you help me out somehow
[09:09] <dragon_> I doubt it I'm here for help my self
[09:10] <brandon> flaccid: how should I go about this
[09:10] <flaccid> i don't know how to help with your problem. if i could of fixed it when i had the problem i would of
[09:11] <brandon> How did you get rid of the problem
[09:11] <flaccid> changed to PC-BSD
[09:11] <flaccid> coz i got sick of ubuntu bugs like that
[09:11] <dragon_> I need to know how to tell my system that I have a Wi/Fi card built into machine, and how to use it.  I also need to know how to tell my machine it has USB ports.  The pariferals get powered by the USB, but the OS don't know they are there.
[09:12] <rob-west> opengl
[09:12] <rob-west> is installed
[09:12] <rob-west> that was easy
[09:12] <flaccid> !wireless > dragon_
[09:12] <flaccid> use lsusb to check devices plugged in. verify hardware for usb hubs with lshw
[09:13] <flaccid> rob-west: you fixed no glx problem? you prolly forgot to load module glx in xorg.conf ?
[09:14] <rob-west> yea
[09:14] <rob-west> i forgot it
[09:14] <flaccid> cool
[09:14] <rob-west> i can use open GL screensavers now
[09:14] <flaccid> sweet
[09:14] <rob-west> and there puuurrrrrrrty
[09:14] <flaccid> nice
[09:14] <rob-west> i like the fireworks
[09:14] <flaccid> you should play nexuiz opengl now
[09:15] <rob-west> nah
[09:15] <rob-west> dude its only a AGP 2x card
[09:15] <rob-west> its old as heck
[09:15] <flaccid> shoud be alright
[09:15] <rob-west> but still supported
[09:15] <brandon> Dam,  i can not figure this out
[09:15] <yapyccky> hello everyone, i've kubuntu on a asus lapton with ATI 9700. with compiz it works really slow
[09:15] <yapyccky> can anyone help me ?
[09:19] <lolo> in principle, kubuntu comes with free drivers of ATI
[09:19] <lolo> so two possibilities :
[09:19] <rob-west> flaccid where can i find that game
[09:20] <flaccid> rob-west: install the package nexuiz
[09:20] <lolo> 1. ATI 9700 is a one the does not support the free driver
[09:20] <lolo> (lack of chance)
[09:20] <lolo> 2. you are using a Dapper
[09:20] <lolo> or before
[09:21] <lolo> maybe try Beryl
[09:21] <lolo> in order to check
[09:21] <flaccid> i would check xorg.conf first
[09:21] <lolo> on my Feisty, Beryl works with ATI
[09:22] <lolo> without any change in worg.conf
[09:22] <rob-west> i finally got a video card that installed right
[09:23] <lolo> I personnally never tried Compiz; always on beryl
[09:23] <rob-west> !games
[09:23] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:24] <amrush> flaccid .. im back with this http://www.pastebin.ca/376783
[09:27] <nonuda_> when i try to add printer from smb,there is an error messages said NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED, i log as anonymous
[09:27] <julio> jk
[09:27] <rob-west> im gonna download OpenTTD
[09:27] <rob-west> http://www.openttd.com/
[09:27] <julio> l
[09:28] <flaccid> nonuda_: try #samba
[09:28] <cat> stronzi
[09:28] <nonuda_> ok, thanks
[09:30] <posingaspopular> kubuntu keeps changing the time on me
[09:30] <flaccid> amrush: i would remove the package even if force needed
[09:30] <posingaspopular> help
[09:30] <posingaspopular> i think its ntfs or whatever the clock confg. delaie is
[09:30] <posingaspopular> not ntfs...
[09:31] <amrush> flaccid: aha .. but then how would i get it back ??
[09:31] <flaccid> install it again
[09:31] <flaccid> it wants an earlier package version
[09:31] <rob-west> will sim city 4 run in kubuntu
[09:31] <rob-west> or do i need cedega
[09:31] <flaccid> from the first error. don't know why. probably ubuntu packagers fault
[09:32] <yapyccky_> sorry moky, i've been disconnected
[09:32] <yapyccky_> u were telling me smt about ATI cards
[09:33] <nonuda_> in add/remove program, i try to search nvidia, but its greyed, why?
[09:33] <VonFluffy> restricted format?
[09:33] <rob-west> flaccid
[09:33] <rob-west> did i mention my video card is 64MB
[09:34] <yapyccky_> if anyone knows how to help me i would be happy
[09:34] <flaccid> rob-west: no
[09:35] <flaccid> nonuda_: probably need to enable the repos, what is the name of the package
[09:35] <rob-west> it plays Lincity NG
[09:35] <rob-west> wow
[09:35] <rob-west> im shocked
[09:35] <flaccid> cool
[09:36] <rob-west> ofcourse lincity isnt to demanding
[09:36] <nonuda_> NVidia binary X.Org 'legacy' Driver
[09:36] <rob-west> i didnt use the legacy driver
[09:36] <rob-west> what video card is it
[09:37] <nonuda_> geForce mx4
[09:42] <firecrotch> flaccid: If I set $action to 1 (integer) and one of the cases to case 1:  then it works
[09:43] <firecrotch> So my guess is it's doing weird with the strings
[09:43] <flaccid> it looks that way
[09:44] <flaccid> i would do a hash on the two vars being compared and see if they return the same hash
[09:44] <vontux> quick question, lets say I want to download all of the packages required for a specific program (say gnomebaker), is there a way for me to use apt-get to download the .deb files without installing them so I can transfer them to a non-internet connected pc?
[09:44] <posingaspopular> well try it
[09:45] <posingaspopular> apt get program
[09:45] <posingaspopular> i duno though
[09:45] <DaveQB> vontux  -d switch i think yuor after
[09:46] <DaveQB> vontux  apt-get --help and its right there in front of you
[09:46] <vontux> DaveQB: hehe, whoops
[09:46] <vontux> thx
[09:46] <DaveQB> :)
[09:46] <DaveQB> no worries
[09:51] <rob-west> flaccid that game is like quake
[09:51] <rob-west> but the weapons r cooler in this one
[09:51] <flaccid> yeah
[09:51] <flaccid> runs ok?
[09:52] <rob-west> yea
[09:52] <flaccid> cool
[09:52] <rob-west> but i keep getting killed
[09:52] <flaccid> you playing multiplayer?
[09:52] <rob-west> nah
[09:52] <firecrotch> flaccid: well, the hashes aren't the same, even though both inputs are strings containing the exact same characters
[09:52] <flaccid> then they are not the same
[09:52] <CompleteShift> le sigh =\.  How do I change resolution in KDE desktop ^^?
[09:53] <flaccid> firecrotch: you could try trimming them
[09:54] <firecrotch> flaccid: found the problem... my Javascript is adding a space character
[09:54] <firecrotch> Thanks for your help :)
[09:55] <flaccid> hehe np
[09:56] <flaccid> i knew it was that
[09:56] <flaccid> but wtf is javscript touching it?
[09:56] <flaccid> thats non-standard...
[09:56] <firecrotch> AJAX
[09:57] <flaccid> the challenge is making AJAX accessible. lets not forget about our disabled friends.
[09:59] <firecrotch> I'm 100% sure that the people who will be using this are not disabled
[09:59] <amrush> ok thanks flaccid .. all good now :)
[09:59] <firecrotch> It's a grand total of 9 people.
[09:59] <rob-west> flaccid where u fro
[09:59] <rob-west> from
[09:59] <flaccid> firecrotch: what sort of app is it?
[09:59] <flaccid> amrush: npz y0
[10:00] <flaccid> firecrotch: ok then the app will be non-extensible.. just as bad :p
[10:00] <flaccid> rob-west: i'm in australia
[10:00] <firecrotch> flaccid: it's a forum :)
[10:01] <firecrotch> If you couldn't tell from the wording of the script, this part is only for the moderation staff
[10:01] <firecrotch> The rest of the ajax that I use actually does degrade gracefully
[10:02] <flaccid> well i hope so
[10:03] <flaccid> i dislike opening ajax sites in lynx and getting a blank screen because the whole page is ajaxed
[10:03] <flaccid> but yeah most of shelf ajax frameworks don't care about accessibility
[10:06] <mngrif> how does tar expect file names when used with the -T option? do the files listed in the text file need to be escaped?
[10:07] <rob-west> how hard is it to make all the buttons on my mouse work in kubuntu
[10:07] <rob-west> its a logitech MX518
[10:08] <flaccid> its not that hard
[10:08] <flaccid> prolly using xmodmap
[10:08] <flaccid> its on the forums somewhere
[10:11] <shirwa22> hello every1
[10:12] <firecrotch> hello, shirwa22
[10:12] <shirwa22> i am new linux newbie, i have installed kubuntu on my labtop
[10:13] <shirwa22> can someone help wireless problems
[10:13] <aftertaf> what card you got?
[10:13] <posingaspopular> shirwa22: try knetworkmanager
[10:14] <shirwa22> broadcom on hp dv2000 labtop
[10:14] <aftertaf> ok. whats the problem? knetworkmanager is good to setup wifi connections
[10:14] <vontux> DaveQB: where would the downloaded .deb files be located after "apt-get -d install"?
[10:15] <shirwa22> can i give some1 ssh access on my labtop
[10:15] <aftertaf> whats the pb shirwa22 ?
[10:16] <rob-west> sorry bout that
[10:16] <rob-west> its raining and its cold out
[10:16] <aftertaf> vontux:  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:16] <aftertaf> rob-west: me 2 :/
[10:17] <vontux> aftertaf: ah, thank you greatly sir :)
[10:17] <aftertaf> :)
[10:18] <ondicz> we have very warm winter this year:)
[10:18] <aftertaf> true but we still have a winter, as in it is not nice weather !
[10:18] <aftertaf> :)
[10:21] <rob-west> :P
[10:21] <rob-west> brb
[10:25] <posingaspopular> firecrotch: maybe YOU are rob-west
[10:26] <firecrotch> maybe I am :p
[10:27] <flaccid> i think with broadcom you need ndiswrapper for at least a lot of the cards
[10:27] <posingaspopular> rob-west: where do you live if you dont mind me asking
[10:27] <rob-west> USA michigan
[10:27] <hungpham> I have a noop question, could anybody help me ?
[10:27] <posingaspopular> ah see, im in chicago
[10:27] <posingaspopular> so we are probably seeing the same storm
[10:28] <flaccid> !ask
[10:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <posingaspopular> so firecrotch was right
[10:28] <posingaspopular> hungpham: we're all n00b sometime. its okay to be a n00b, its not okay to stay that way :)
[10:28] <flaccid> firecrotch tis funnyname
[10:28] <posingaspopular> firecrotch is a cheater
[10:28] <deathnote> !laptop
[10:28] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:28] <rob-west> where is firecrotch from
[10:28] <flaccid> i'm to lazy to do whois heh
[10:28] <rob-west> oh damn
[10:28] <firecrotch> Wisconsin
[10:29] <rob-west> were all within a tristate region
[10:29] <hungpham> after backup the ubuntu, I buy the new hdd, then how to have command mode to run the restore command ?
[10:29] <deathnote> why does my laptop doesn't come up with screensaver after X mins when i didn't plug in power? instead it shows blank screen.. but when power is plugged in, the screensaver will come out?
[10:29] <cntb> hi rob-west
[10:29] <deathnote> in kubuntu
[10:29] <firecrotch> Just a little bit windy here though
[10:29] <cntb> spending hours installing rob-west
[10:29] <rob-west> nah
[10:29] <rob-west> im don
[10:29] <rob-west> done*
[10:29] <cntb> better dont burn out rob-west
[10:29] <cntb> have a rest rob-west
[10:30] <cntb> ;-)
[10:30] <posingaspopular> firecrotch: ist hat milwaukee, you're from?
[10:30] <Hudson> I'm having a weird problem with KDE, Whenever I click a link to open it from outside firefox
[10:30] <firecrotch> posingaspopular:  Yep
[10:30] <Hudson> it opens in konq
[10:30] <rob-west> this cntb is creepy
[10:30] <Jucato> Hudson: from what app are you clicking the link?
[10:30] <Hudson> even though FF is set as default browser
[10:30] <cntb> !alternatives | hudson
[10:30] <Hudson> Jucato it just did it inside Xchat
[10:30] <ubotu> hudson: To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[10:31] <Jucato> Hudson: ah no wonder
[10:31] <flaccid> Hudson: check file associations in konqueroror config
[10:31] <cntb> !alternatives | hudson
[10:31] <flaccid> Hudson: check X settings for default browsers if it has one
[10:31] <Jucato> Hudson: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[10:31] <cntb> big lag here
[10:31] <firecrotch> whois cntb
[10:32] <cntb> better /whois cntb firecrotch ;-)
[10:32] <Hudson> http://www.google.com
[10:32] <Ace2016> Hi all
[10:32] <Hudson> Thanks guys, that fixed it :)
[10:32] <deathnote> how come my laptop screen saver shows a big X
[10:32] <deathnote> but when i click test its ok
[10:33] <cntb> like no one knew where to search Hudson ?
[10:33] <Ace2016> When your writing an abstract where do you put it? at the start of the article or at the end?
[10:33] <Hudson> trouble rendering 3D?
[10:33] <deathnote> but when the time is up and screen saver show X
[10:33] <firecrotch> cntb:  apparently my \ (other way) is not working
[10:33] <flaccid> its a kde/ubuntu bug, deathnote
[10:33] <deathnote> why i press TEST its ok?
[10:33] <flaccid> deathnote: search google/forums for white x screensaver
[10:33] <tauri> !mp3
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <deathnote> flaccid: oic.........
[10:33] <deathnote> flaccid: any fix yet??
[10:33] <flaccid> Ace2016: always at start
[10:33] <cntb> about what firecrotch?
[10:33] <flaccid> deathnote: like i said search. there is a fix but doesn't always work. its bad implementation. w/acpi
[10:34] <firecrotch> cntb:  what
[10:34] <Hudson> cntb Searching rarely returns any worthwhile results. You have to wade through outdated, orphaned, irrelevant, incorrect solutions to finally find one
[10:34] <Ace2016> flaccid: thanks
[10:34] <cntb> funny  konversation robbed ALT-F2  ha
[10:34] <flaccid> n
[10:35] <cntb> Hudson:  new here ?
[10:35] <cntb> PM ubotu Hudson
[10:35] <cntb> lots of soutions in ubotu factoids Hudson
[10:35] <deathnote> ok
[10:35] <hungpham> I usually install the new Ubuntu, then run the tar command to restore the backup image. How to not install ???
[10:35] <cntb> !factoid
[10:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:35] <flaccid> !flaccid
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flaccid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <flaccid> damn
[10:36] <Hudson> cntb yes, most recently I have spent 1 day and 2 installs trying to get dual monitors to work, before that and still unresolved is how to get compiz to work on KDE
[10:36] <deathnote> what application can i use to monitor my laptop's power? like i wanna use less cpu to save battery?
[10:36] <deathnote> !laptop
[10:36] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:36] <rob-west> !rob-west
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rob-west - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <aftertaf> compiz or beryl? what is best?
[10:36] <cntb> Hudson: I agree that issue not easy one
[10:36] <Hudson> i prefer compiz
[10:37] <cntb> graphic card Hudson ? edgy ?
[10:37] <Hudson> cntb, thats the only reason I asked what you considered an easy question. I'm sick of searching and coming up with dead ends
[10:37] <cntb> Hudson: go #ubuntu-effecs
[10:37] <cntb> sorry !Hudson: go #ubuntu-effects
[10:37] <Hudson> cntb 2 Geforce 7800GTX's I finally got it working. still no compiz though
[10:38] <andri> cafebleu
[10:38] <cntb> dont despair you should be able to sort link
[10:38] <cntb> dual  display already Hudson ?
[10:39] <Hudson> cntb yeah, it was easy once you got the binary drivers installed. I couldnt find a decent guide so I winged it.
[10:39] <Hudson> cntb got lucky
[10:39] <cntb> why not try beryl
[10:39] <cntb> !beryl
[10:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:40] <cntb> wait Hudson
[10:40] <deathnote> !powermanager
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powermanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <flaccid> !find power
[10:40] <ubotu> Found: gnome-power-manager, installation-guide-powerpc, kde-guidance-powermanager, powermanagement-interface, powermgmt-base (and 18 others)
[10:40] <Hudson> cntb ?
[10:41] <cntb> Hudson: http://del.icio.us/tony_behar/Beryl
[10:41] <cntb> my delicious hudson ;-) be my guest
[10:41] <Hudson> thx
[10:43] <Jucato> "<cntb> my delicious hudson" <--- hm.. tasty? :D
[10:43] <Hudson> hehe
[10:44] <flaccid> !botsnack
[10:44] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:44] <flaccid> i think he was getting hungry
[10:44] <flaccid> w0a
[10:44] <flaccid> thats a lot of data to eat in one meal br0
[10:44] <cntb> haha jucato ! hudson , may have found already that http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[10:45] <Jucato> flaccid: I have an insatiable appetite for 0's and 1's
[10:45] <Hudson> I'm actually more interested in Compiz + NVIDIA binaries (AIGLX)
[10:45] <cntb> see no need to sort google links out all the time Hudson
[10:45] <flaccid> 1s arnt good for your diet br0
[10:45] <Hudson> I have followed KDE specific guides and got it installed
[10:45] <Jucato> Hudson: the /topic in #ubuntu-effects has lots of guides
[10:45] <Hudson> but I don't know how to start it
[10:45] <deathnote> !ati
[10:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:46] <Hudson> All guides say to type compiz-tray-icon into terminal to start it
[10:46] <Hudson> but I always get a error saying bash cant find the program
[10:46] <flaccid> Hudson: sudo updatedb && sudo locate -i compiz-tray-icon
[10:47] <cntb> !gr lewnidas_
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gr lewnidas_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <flaccid> Hudson: see if that finds it
[10:47] <cntb> !gr  > lewnidas_
[10:47] <flaccid> its prolly not in your path
[10:47] <deathnote> is         Driver      "vesa" correct for ATI radeon card?
[10:47] <aftertaf> no
[10:47] <deathnote> in Xorg.conf
[10:47] <aftertaf> !ati
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <flaccid> deathnote: correct for any video card that driver
[10:47] <Hudson> okie flaccid I'll try that
[10:48] <deathnote> ic i got fglrxinfo and glxinfo | grep direct right
[10:48] <deathnote> but i just see this driver "vesa"
[10:48] <deathnote> i followed the link to install ati !ati
[10:49] <deathnote> can i manually change it to ATI
[10:49] <flaccid> yeah you can deathnote
[10:50] <flaccid> to ati or radeon drivers iirc
[10:50] <deathnote> ok now i'm stuck at kubuntu load screen
[10:50] <deathnote> ctrl-alt F1 - 8 can't work
[10:50] <deathnote> zz
[10:51] <flaccid> sounds typical of usplash/ubuntu
[10:51] <Hudson> flaccid still can't find it
[10:51] <deathnote> booting in recovery to revert back my Xorg.conf
[10:51] <flaccid> Hudson: then you don't have it
[10:52] <Hudson> anyone know the KDE equivilant to compiz-tray-icon?
[10:52] <Hudson> er i misspelled that horribly
[10:52] <aftertaf2> lol
[10:53] <flaccid> !compiz
[10:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:53] <cntb> g'night rob-west
[10:54] <Hudson> thanks Flaccid this is a new guide
[10:54] <flaccid> i don't see a ref to that binary there
[10:54] <flaccid> yeah
[10:54] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[10:55] <flaccid> hopefully that one is suffice
[10:55] <kruno_> Hello everyone! Could someone tell me what soft. to use for ripping DVDs or should i just use DVDdecrypter under wine?
[10:55] <aftertaf2> acidrip
[10:55] <aftertaf2> or k9copy
[10:55] <kruno_> thank you!
[10:55] <deathnote> xorg-driver-fglrx <-- contains ati drivers and will update my xorg.conf driver into ati instead of vesa?
[10:56] <musa> can some1 help me with my wireless card
[10:56] <posingaspopular> !wireless
[10:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:56] <ondicz> i need to get list of available irc servers automatically, is it possible in  Konversation?
[10:56] <musa> thank u
[10:56] <flaccid> !ati > deathnote
[10:57] <posingaspopular> np, check back if you have more problems
[10:57] <ondicz> in other irc apps i saw that
[10:58] <musa> i run lspci, is this my wireless card: 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[10:58] <cntb> is there #openoffice on freenode ? trying
[10:59] <cntb> nope
[10:59] <Jucato> !openoffice
[10:59] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[10:59] <Jucato> cntb: ^^^
[10:59] <OliverKrueger> Has anybody managed to get subclipse under eclipse3.2 under edgy eft running?
[10:59] <cntb> tyvm Jucato
[11:00] <cntb> [11:59]  [470]  #users.openoffice.org #openoffice.org Forwarding to another channel Jucato
[11:00] <Jucato> heh :)
[11:01] <eilker> can someone correct it pls ?? sudo dpkg reconfigure-- xserver-xorg
[11:02] <cntb> sudo dpkg reconfigure  xserver-xorg will be the right one eilker
[11:02] <cntb> sorry  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg will be the right one eilker
[11:03] <Jucato> !xconfig
[11:03] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[11:03] <deathnote> apparantly there is 2 drivers line in xorg.conf
[11:03] <eilker> oh now ok, thanx
[11:03] <deathnote> one is driver "fglrx"
[11:03] <deathnote> another is driver "vesa"
[11:04] <deathnote> both under section device
[11:04] <deathnote> but different parts
[11:05] <deathnote> shd i remove the vesa>?
[11:08] <aftertaf> put a # in front
[11:08] <aftertaf> that way is broken you can vim it in console
[11:21] <posingaspopular> im trying to do sudo aptititude get firefox. what's the REAL command
[11:21] <posingaspopular> and... x just crashed
[11:21] <posingaspopular> help?
[11:21] <ForgeAus> then uncrash it! (kidding...) did it give you an error message?
[11:22] <posingaspopular> well not X, the taskbar at the bottom disappeared
[11:22] <ForgeAus> kicker?
[11:22] <posingaspopular> ... kicker...?
[11:22] <Jucato> Alt+F2, "kicker"
[11:22] <Jucato> Kicker, the KDE Panel
[11:22] <posingaspopular> ahhh
[11:22] <ForgeAus> analogous to windows XP's taskbar
[11:22] <posingaspopular> yay we're BACK!
[11:22] <Jucato> the real command is "sudo aptitude install firefox", btw
[11:22] <posingaspopular> thanks Jucato
[11:23] <posingaspopular> admiral_chicago told me yesterday
[11:23] <posingaspopular> but i forget these things
[11:23] <Jucato> aptitude and apt-get mostly hae the same commands... most of the time
[11:23] <posingaspopular> right but i know it wasn't aptitude-get install
[11:25] <posingaspopular> thanks fx is up and runnign now
[11:25] <posingaspopular> i was having crazy crash issues with it yesterday
[11:27] <waylandbill> Unfortunately, aptitude doesn't have super cow powers or it'd just know and do the correct command for you. :-)
[11:27] <ForgeAus> I still have a few crash issues but nothing to serious
[11:29] <flaccid> wb
[11:29] <posingaspopular> waylandbill: what does that even MEAN
[11:31] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: it's an easter egg
[11:32] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: enter a bad command to aptitude and it will telling that it doesn't have super cow powers.
[11:32] <posingaspopular> oh hahahaha ubuntu does that all the time to me
[11:32] <posingaspopular> one time it told me something about a chicken
[11:32] <posingaspopular> i thought it was me being a n00blet
[11:33] <waylandbill> there is another egg that if you give it the command it will show an ascii cow as well
[11:33] <posingaspopular> although thas probably also true
[11:33] <posingaspopular> where does the 'egg' part come from?
[11:34] <waylandbill> easter egg. It's hidden things that programmers put in
[11:34] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: http://www.eeggs.com/items/43172.html
[11:35] <posingaspopular> ah thanks. im not a programmer so i woudn't know
[11:36] <posingaspopular> thats awesome though
[11:36] <waylandbill> oh. and it is apt-get that shows the cow. aptitude shows the elephant eaten by the snake
[11:36] <waylandbill> apt-get moo   <-- that will show a cow.
[11:37] <VonFluffy> apt-get install cowsay
[11:37] <posingaspopular> he, awesome
[11:38] <posingaspopular> man I need to finish this essay about Samuel L. Jackson
[11:38] <posingaspopular> so far I have 1/2 a page of "Samuel L. Jackson is the coolest. he likes violence"
[11:38] <waylandbill> VonFluffy: thanks for the cowsay tip. I like it. :-)
[11:53] <vontux> has anyone had trouble getting gnome baker to burn dvds?
[11:54] <vontux> I essentially have the problem shown here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2209607
[12:00] <MarcoPau> hey there, I wanted to know how I can share a partition in my LAN
[12:01] <waylandbill> MarcoPau: NFS, Samba, Sshd. Depends on the target which will use the share.
[12:04] <waylandbill> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch desktops (like to desktop 2) ?
[12:04] <hybridstorm> Does anyone know if their is a better firefox icon for the taskbar? mine now looks pretty rough compared to the other icons
[12:05] <waylandbill> hybridstorm: any xpm icon will do. you can find some on the web.
[12:05] <flaccid> waylandbill: see your settings in kcontrol - keyboard shortcuts
[12:05] <flaccid> see if a larger res xpm is on your system i think there is
[12:06] <hybridstorm> thanks flaccid
[12:06] <waylandbill> flaccid: ok. I see where to set the shortcut
[12:06] <flaccid> cool
[12:09] <MarcoPau> waylandbill: I opened samba... all I need is enable directory sharing?
[12:09] <[EG] Tauri> hi
[12:10] <[EG] Tauri> !mp3 player
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <[EG] Tauri> whats a good mp3 player?
[12:10] <posingaspopular> [EG] Tauri: in terms of...
[12:10] <waylandbill> good is all relative, but I like amaroK
[12:10] <[EG] Tauri> um... listening to music
[12:11] <flaccid> asound is good
[12:11] <flaccid> not sure if it can do mp3 but :p
[12:11] <[EG] Tauri> well i have XMMS
[12:11] <[EG] Tauri> it looks good
[12:11] <[EG] Tauri> just... being picky
[12:11] <flaccid> amarok kills but
[12:11] <flaccid> but its still handy
[12:11] <Erunno> Isn't XMMS dead upstream ?
[12:12] <flaccid> probably
[12:12] <waylandbill> MarcoPau: you have to define the directory to share and you also have to add at least one user to samba
[12:12] <[EG] Tauri> um... huh?
[12:12] <MarcoPau> waylandbill: ok, then the other clients in the lan will see the directory?
[12:12] <waylandbill> amarok and an ipod are like heaven together. :-)
[12:12] <[EG] Tauri> ech... ipod
[12:13] <[EG] Tauri> how do i update the shared folders i see in my network?
[12:13] <Erunno> waylandbill is a traitor to the open source cause. iPod can't play vorbis/flac files :P
[12:13] <waylandbill> MarcoPau: they should, yes. It make take time for it to broadcast so you may need to use \\machine\share on the windows machine
[12:13] <waylandbill> Erunno: It will when the Ipod Linux project matures. :-P
[12:14] <flaccid> but ipod can sell millions....
[12:14] <flaccid> its a nice trade off
[12:14] <MarcoPau> waylandbill: what would that \\machine\share be?
[12:15] <[EG] Tauri> wrarg... xmms wont play my mp3's
[12:15] <Erunno> MarcoPau: You can set up Samba as a master domain browser for the windows clients.
[12:15] <waylandbill> start..run.. \\machine_name\share_name  (machine name could be an ip address or the defined name samba calls your system)
[12:15] <waylandbill> !mp3
[12:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <waylandbill> MarcoPau: netbios name. That's what I was trying to pull out of my brain's database. :)
[12:16] <[EG] Tauri> ... amaroK crashes when i try to play music...
[12:18] <MarcoPau> Erunno: don't get you... how would I do that? I enabled that sharing and added the user, but windows won't see the directory
[12:22] <waylandbill> MarcoPau: did you try entering the URI like I said?
[12:22] <Erunno> MarcoPau: : http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/NetworkBrowsing.html#remsmb
[12:26] <reinhold> I have removed the kde metapackage (as I compile kdepim myself for development), but now apt-get always tells me that lots of kde packages can be auto-removed. How can I mark installed packages as non-autoremove (ie. as manually installed)? I searched google, but couldn't find anything.
[12:30] <flaccid> reinhold: as far as i know
[12:30] <flaccid> you don't need to
[12:30] <flaccid> autoremove should be old ones
[12:30] <flaccid> i could be totally wrong but
[12:30] <reinhold> flaccid: No, apt-get suggests to remove kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, etc. They were dependencies of the kde metapackage (which was removed when I removed kdepim)
[12:31] <flaccid> well thats weird
[12:31] <flaccid> coz they are not strictly deps as its a meta package so removal should have no effect
[12:31] <flaccid> could be wrong again but
[12:31] <benjoer12> hi everybody
[12:32] <benjoer12> i wanna ask something
[12:32] <benjoer12> about kubuntu
[12:32] <benjoer12> especially about compiling kernel
[12:32] <posingaspopular> !ask
[12:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:32] <benjoer12> ooow
[12:32] <benjoer12> thats my question
[12:32] <flaccid> however i could be wrong as packages.ubuntu says this "It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired."
[12:32] <posingaspopular> benjoer12: what about compling kernels?
[12:33] <flaccid> which startles me and contradicts upgrade docos but meh
[12:33] <zicero> im looking for xmllint for kubuntu .. can i find it on any repository ? or is there any kde application i could use to validate some home-grown xml  ?!
[12:33] <reinhold> flaccid: apt-get does not try to remove them, but suggests to auto-remove them (using the --autoremove switch)
[12:33] <reinhold> flaccid:
[12:33] <benjoer12> what packages are needed for compiling kernel in kubuntu
[12:33] <reinhold> flaccid: anyway, I now found the apt-mark util to mark packages as manually installed.
[12:33] <posingaspopular> !compile
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:33] <flaccid> zicero: a web browser
[12:33] <flaccid> reinhold: well you probably can't remove the meta package
[12:33] <flaccid> i would install it again
[12:33] <zicero> :)
[12:33] <flaccid> due to what it says: It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired.
[12:34] <benjoer12> thx 4 ubotu
[12:34] <flaccid> reinhold: is this edgy?
[12:34] <reinhold> flaccid: Nope, I can't, as that will reinstall kdepim (which I need to compile from the latest develoment branch, so I'll get compatibility problems)
[12:34] <zicero> ok .. let me put it this way: id like to install xmllint then ... my repositorys (standard) dont have .. any chances i can find it somewhere ?!
[12:34] <reinhold> flaccid: Nope, feisty, but it was the same in edgy
[12:35] <flaccid> reinhold: ah thats it. its the new apt. i'm a dapper user to which it doesn't do that.
[12:36] <reinhold> flaccid: Ah, okay. Now apt-get has a feature to detect dependency packages that were only installed as dependencies of another. If you remove that package, all dependencies that are not required by any other manually installed package are suggested to be auto-removed.
[12:36] <reinhold> flaccid: So I just needed a way to mark kdemultimedia etc. as manually installed.
[12:37] <flaccid> reinhold: sounds good. pity we werent told and there is no doco on it...
[12:37] <flaccid> with like 3-4 release of ubuntu on the plate soon, its going to get worse
[12:39] <Erunno> reinhold: If you start aptitude without parameters it will open a gui (sort of). There's a option to mark packages as manually installed
[12:40] <flaccid> is that ncurses?
[12:41] <reinhold> Erunno: I now also found the apt-mark util, which does exactly what I want.
[12:41] <Erunno> reinhold: kk :)
[12:47] <eilker> i wanna make a video file of my desktop, by using vlc media player, could some help me pls ?
[12:52] <eilker> !xvidcap
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <yaman> hi every one what is better to download on the ubuntu the kde or the kubuntu-desktop what could give me more programs??? any help
[12:59] <waylandbill> yaman: both use same repo, so you can choose from same packages on either
[01:01] <yaman> waylandbill: thnx
[01:03] <geir_> Hi. I'm new to kubuntu and have a simple question.... How do I install the file "kaffeine-0.8.3.tar.bz2"
[01:04] <eilker> no need to compressed file, just use adept
[01:04] <Erunno> geir_: That's probably the source code.
[01:04] <eilker> or type in console , sudo apt-get install kaffeine
[01:05] <Erunno> geir_: You'll have to compile it if you want to use it. I'd suggest to use the version in the repos unless there's a critical feature you need in this version.
[01:06] <geir_> ok. I have kaffeine 0.8.2 installed, and want to upgrade. So sudo apt-get install kaffeine-0.8.3.tar.bz2 does it, and then I can install/upgrade it from Adept...??
[01:07] <eilker> just upgrade from adept,
[01:07] <Erunno> eilker: 0.8.3 isn't in the edgy repos afaik.
[01:08] <geir_> Adept has only 0.8.2....
[01:08] <eilker> erunno ohh sorry
[01:08] <eilker> !make
[01:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:08] <Erunno> geir_: Unpack the file with tar xvzf, run configure, make, and then sudo make install
[01:09] <waylandbill> must be 0.8.3 has an exciting cool new feature.
[01:09] <geir_> Ubotu. Thanks I'll read here... :-)
[01:09] <Erunno> waylandbill: Or it's just the version madness ;-)
[01:10] <waylandbill> Erunno: it's still got the new version smell I bet.
[01:11] <Erunno> Reminds me...where can I complain about the neglect of the backport repos ?
[01:12] <geir_> "version madness"... Yes, and learning how to do it ;-)
[01:13] <Erunno> geir_: It's a mindset I fully understand, that's why I was on Gentoo's testing branch for months :-P
[01:14] <Erunno> Does KDevelop (or Kate) support code-completion for qt4 ?
[01:15] <Jucato> Erunno: probably the latest KDevelop version does (3.4 I think)
[01:15] <eilker> !xine
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <fuel> recently i upgraded to 2.6.17-11 kernel ...... its slower than previous version
[01:17] <Tm_T> fuel: How you measured?
[01:17] <[EG] Tauri> whats the command to check the hdd space?
[01:18] <fuel> well its not right to blame on the version........ but my applications are running slower
[01:18] <Erunno> [EG] Tauri: df
[01:18] <Zyrkon> df -h
[01:18] <fuel> i think its df
[01:18] <[EG] Tauri> thx
[01:18] <Tm_T> [EG] Tauri: df as "disk free"
[01:18] <fuel> or du -h if you want to see the size of the files inside directory
[01:18] <Zyrkon> [EG] Tauri, use "-h" for "human readable" *g*
[01:19] <Jucato> !filelight
[01:19] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[01:19] <fuel> have you guys used krandr ?
[01:20] <cox377> can anyone tell me how to mount a windows share to my kubuntu box?
[01:20] <eilker> i wanna make a video file of my desktop, could some help me pls ?
[01:20] <fuel> try wink
[01:20] <fuel> its free....
[01:21] <eilker> mke ?
[01:21] <eilker> me* ?
[01:21] <fuel> yes
[01:22] <fuel> eilker :http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
[01:22] <fuel> hope so this helps
[01:22] <eilker> let me try, tahnx
[01:23] <Erunno> !mount | cox377
[01:23] <ubotu> cox377: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:23] <Erunno> cox377: That wasn't very helpful :-P
[01:24] <cox377> Erunno: lol basically i just want to mount a network share
[01:24] <Jucato> !nfs
[01:24] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:25] <Erunno> cox377: You can access a windows share via the smb io-slave in Konqueror
[01:25] <fuel> type smb:/
[01:26] <fuel> but is there any good articles explaining about kio-slaves ?
[01:26] <cox377> Erunno: thing is
[01:26] <fuel> wikipedia has nothing about it :(
[01:26] <cox377> Erunno: i want to use armork for a multimedia network share
[01:27] <fuel> you mean amarok ? :P
[01:27] <cox377> fuel: lol
[01:27] <cox377> fuel: so whats the recommendations
[01:27] <fuel> too bad i dont know about it ....
[01:28] <fuel> but you can always ask google!
[01:28] <guiden> why is it so hard to change a theme?
[01:28] <Erunno> cox377: Just so that I understand the situation correclty: You have a windows share full of illeg...honestly purchased music and want to access it with amarok ?
[01:28] <fuel> :))
[01:29] <cox377> Erunno: ' multimedia ' or sorts
[01:29] <cox377> Erunno: ;)
[01:29] <waylandbill> he ripped them from his personal collection I'm sure.
[01:29] <cox377> Erunno: but basically yet
[01:29] <cox377> yes*
[01:29] <Jucato> guiden: what theme?
[01:29] <fuel> guiden : what theme ?
[01:29] <fuel> Jucato: ;)
[01:29] <fuel> nice timing
[01:30] <cox377> Erunno: any ideas on how i move forward?
[01:30] <Jucato> :P
[01:30] <guiden> I mean, isn't there a program that downloads theme quick and easy like in gnome?
[01:30] <Jucato> fuel: old article: http://osdir.com/Article2159.phtml
[01:30] <waylandbill> cox377: you can open media and then use an smb:// url. it should be seamless networking
[01:30] <Jucato> guiden: next question, what kind of theme
[01:31] <Jucato> oh bah!
[01:31] <Jucato> !changethemes | guiden
[01:31] <ubotu> guiden: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:31] <Erunno> cox377: Hold on, I'm looking at Amarok atm. I don't use it very often.
[01:31] <Jucato> there... read the whole thing :)
[01:31] <cox377> waylandbill: unfortunatly amarok just crashes if i do that
[01:31] <guiden> :)
[01:31] <cox377> Erunno: much appreciated
[01:32] <fuel> or you could try vlc
[01:32] <waylandbill> cox377: file a bug report about it.
[01:32] <fuel> !vlc
[01:32] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:32] <Erunno> cox377: You can mount windows share in your Linux tree with the smbclient command, I just forgot how. It's been about 2 years since I seriously worked with Samba.
[01:32] <fuel> why was kcontrol removed from kmenu ?
[01:33] <posingaspopular> hey Jucato im just wondering, do you ever sleep?
[01:33] <Jucato> fuel: System Settings.
[01:33] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yes. but probably not at the same time as you
[01:33] <fuel> Jucato :yeah but it does not lead to kcontrol which has more options etcc.
[01:33] <cox377> Jucato: lol
[01:33] <cox377> Erunno: lol ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
[01:33] <posingaspopular> you're in this room when I wake up and go to sleep...
[01:34] <Jucato> fuel: not really. aside from a few bugs, System Settings has the exact same stuff as KControl
[01:34] <Erunno> cox377: Or not. I'm confused.
[01:34] <waylandbill> cox377: you can also mount samba shares permanently using your fstab
[01:34] <fuel> hmmm but system settings!=kcontrol :P
[01:35] <cox377> waylandbill: any idea on the command
[01:35] <cox377> :P
[01:35] <Erunno> cox377: Listen to waylandbill, he is strong in the Linux.
[01:35] <Jucato> fuel: yes, the interface is not the same. but system settings uses the same kcontrol modules
[01:35] <Jucato> fuel: kcontrol itself is just a container. nothing more
[01:35] <fuel> cox377: there seems to be some settings for network share in system settinga
[01:35] <fuel> yeah
[01:35] <cox377> Erunno: ok.. shall do.. let just home waylandbill has the time
[01:35] <fuel> a collection of services.....
[01:36] <waylandbill> cox377: the command is simply mount, after you set it up. I'll looking for the doc right now
[01:36] <cox377> waylandbill: many thanks
[01:37] <Erunno> cox377: An alternative I just dug up: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Samba
[01:37] <Jucato> fuel: a collection of kcm (kcontrol modules)
[01:37] <Erunno> cox377: Sounds like it describes what you are looking for.
[01:37] <waylandbill> cox377: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToMountsmbfsSharesPermanently
[01:38] <cox377> Erunno: looks now many thanjs : )
[01:38] <cox377> waylandbill: looking now many thanks : )
[01:40] <cntb> Notes for Wink on Linux:
[01:40] <cntb>       Wink requires GTK 2.4 or higher.
[01:40] <cntb> what is GTK2.4?
[01:40] <Tm_T> !gtk
[01:40] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[01:40] <guiden> what does full upgrade do in adept?
[01:41] <fuel> guiden: it upgrades fully :P
[01:41] <Jucato> guiden: equivalent to apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:41] <waylandbill> lets say I use 'date'... how can I get that but a week ago?
[01:42] <guiden> does it remove packages that aren't used?
[01:42] <Jucato> nope
[01:42] <fuel> no only upgrades!!!
[01:42] <guiden> ok :)
[01:42] <Jucato> dist-upgrade = upgrades installed packages, installs new packages to meet new dependencies of packages to be upgraded, removes packages that will conflict with the ones previously mentioned
[01:43] <guiden> ok
[01:43] <fuel> i tried installing xubuntu ....... it crashed right away!
[01:43] <fuel> i meant xubuntu-desktop
[01:44] <Jucato> fuel: problem on your end definitely...
[01:44] <cntb> did you  sudo apt-get-install xubuntu-desktop fuel ?
[01:44] <fuel> yep installed the same way
[01:44] <cntb> * did you  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop fuel ?
[01:44] <cox377> waylandbill: i run this command
[01:44] <cox377> sudo mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[01:44] <fuel> the problem is the desktop did not load.....just the wall paper..... seems to be a problem with gtk engine .
[01:44] <cox377> waylandbill: and nothing happens it just gives me the options, i'm obviously adding the right detauls
[01:44] <cox377> details
[01:44] <cntb> crashed meaning X fuel ?
[01:45] <fuel> and i tried googling "reset xubutu config " etc.....
[01:45] <fuel> X did not crash
[01:45] <fuel> xubuntu crashed!
[01:45] <fuel> and #xubuntu channel is dead!!!
[01:45] <fuel> no one is alive there
[01:45] <fuel> ;)
[01:46] <waylandbill> cox377: gives you the options? like the usage details you mean?
[01:46] <cntb> CTRL-ALT-F1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start fuel
[01:46] <cox377> waylandbill:
[01:46] <cox377> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[01:46] <cox377>        mount -h                 : print this help
[01:46] <cntb> xubuntu is not poular enough
[01:46] <cox377>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[01:47] <cox377>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[01:47] <fuel> or better not stable enough
[01:47] <cox377> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[01:47] <cox377> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[01:47] <cox377> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[01:47] <cox377>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[01:47] <cox377>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[01:47] <cox377>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[01:47] <cox377>        mount -t type dev dir    : ordinary mount command
[01:47] <posingaspopular> !enter
[01:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:47] <cox377> Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
[01:47] <posingaspopular> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <cox377> a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
[01:47] <cox377> One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
[01:47] <cox377>        mount --bind olddir newdir
[01:47] <cox377> or move a subtree:
[01:47] <cox377>        mount --move olddir newdir
[01:47] <cox377> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[01:47] <cox377> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[01:47] <cox377> Other options: [-nfFrsvw]  [-o options]  [-p passwdfd] .
[01:47] <cox377> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[01:48] <cntb> speaking of mount -l how do I label en ext2 volume ?
[01:48] <waylandbill> I think you need to use smbmount
[01:48] <cox377> waylandbill: just trying that and see to be getting further
[01:49] <cox377> appologise for the large paste
[01:49] <waylandbill> figured out last week for date. Wasn't aware that "1 week ago" is a date specification. Guess you learn something new everyday.
[01:50] <guiden> When will Flash Player releases be available for other platforms, including devices?
[01:50] <guiden> Adobe does not comment specifically on future releases.
[01:51] <guiden> ***holes :)
[01:52] <waylandbill> they will go to any platform they see as profitable.
[01:52] <cox377> waylandbill: i'm getting this error
[01:52] <cox377> 590: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[01:52] <cox377> SMB connection failed
[01:53] <waylandbill> cox377: sounds like the other end rejected you. :)
[01:54] <cox377> waylandbill: lol
[01:56] <waylandbill> cox377: i don't know if it will help, but you could add option "debug=x" where x is the number of verbosity
[01:56] <waylandbill> cox377: man page recommends starting with 4.
[01:57] <cox377> waylandbill: where it says -o?
[01:58] <waylandbill> put it after the credentials
[01:58] <waylandbill> username=me,password=secret,debug=4
[01:59] <waylandbill> it may give better info on why you were rejected. but then again... it may not.
[01:59] <cox377> waylandbill: what a donkey, i had the wrong IP
[01:59] <waylandbill> :)
[02:00] <cox377> waylandbill: right.. eveything says ok,
[02:00] <cox377> but then it says
[02:00] <cox377> waylandbill: namecache_shutdown: Couldn't close namecache on top of gencache.
[02:01] <cox377> waylandbill: but it appears to have mounted itself
[02:01] <cox377> : )
[02:01] <cox377> waylandbill: nice one mate
[02:01] <waylandbill> that may just be a warning
[02:03] <cox377> waylandbill: just one more thing lol.. after mounting i added  this line into fstab
[02:03] <cox377> /servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs username=windowsuserename,password=windowspassword 0 0
[02:04] <cox377> it then opens a window saying do you want to open this mounted drive, then says "permission denied"
[02:04] <sorush20> Hi I keep getting the message unable to capture image in camorama
[02:04] <sorush20> anyideas why?
[02:05] <sorush20> I have a logitech webcam
[02:05] <waylandbill> cox377: you need to set options for default masks.
[02:06] <waylandbill> cox377: otherwise only root will be able to access the mounted share.
[02:08] <cox377> waylandbill: I'm really sorry mate, how do i go about doing that?
[02:08] <waylandbill> one sec
[02:09] <cox377> waylandbill: looks like this maybe it
[02:09] <cox377> /servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs credentials=/home/myhomedirectory/.smbpasswd,uid=mylinuxusername,gid=mylinuxgroupname 0 0
[02:12] <guiden> why is torrents so slow?
[02:13] <flaccid> don't know guiden ask your peers
[02:13] <cox377> flaccid: lol
[02:14] <cox377> guiden: try a linux distro and see if it maxes out
[02:14] <PhinnFort> can i just download packages needed for installing, with aptitude/apt-get?
[02:14] <PhinnFort> like emerge --fetchonly on gentoo?
[02:14] <Jucato> ??
[02:14] <Jucato> ah -d
[02:15] <PhinnFort> ah, nice
[02:15] <waylandbill> you get faster torrents as your share ratio goes up.
[02:15] <Jucato> use the -d switch
[02:15] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: where?
[02:17] <jagones> wenas
[02:17] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:18] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: that's where .deb's are stored before installing, isn't it?
[02:18] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: correct
[02:18] <PhinnFort> how can i find the color resolution on my screen?
[02:18] <PhinnFort> Kolourpaint complains
[02:19] <waylandbill> kcontrol, display
[02:19] <PhinnFort> i think it crashes here
[02:20] <PhinnFort> kcontrol looks darn ugly now, in the middle of feisty upgrade..;)
[02:20] <crazy_bus> Can anyone help me use the ktorrent que manager.  I put more important files at the top but the file at the bottom of the list stole all the bandwidth.  What do I do?
[02:21] <PhinnFort> crazy_bus: the queue manager doesn't prioritize files, afaik
[02:21] <PhinnFort> crazy_bus: download them one at a time, if you need to prioritize
[02:21] <crazy_bus> what does it do?
[02:21] <PhinnFort> it decides which order the files should download in
[02:22] <PhinnFort> i have currently capped it at two downloads at a time, and the qm decides which two to download
[02:22] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: the kcontrol module doesn't say anything about how many colours
[02:22] <crazy_bus> so if I set maximum downloads for say 3.  It will only download the top 3 que manager files first?
[02:23] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:23] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: what is kolourpaint complaining about not enough colors?
[02:23] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: when i open an image with truecolors (color jpeg) it complains
[02:23] <Contrast> What's up, everyone?
[02:24] <waylandbill> about not enough colors or wrong color palette or something else?
[02:24] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: "The image "448b5b6726266_s.jpg" may have more colours than the current screen mode. In order to display it, some colours may be changed. Try increasing your screen depth to at least 24bpp."
[02:24] <cox377> waylandbill: in order to run the command to allow it to have rw by other users u need to create a credential file first called .smbpasswd
[02:24] <cox377> waylandbill: i've created tht file then run this command
[02:25] <cox377> cd > .smbpasswd chmod 600 .smbpasswd echo username=mywindowsusername >> .smbpasswd echo password=mywindowspassword >> .smbpasswd
[02:25] <cox377> but i gt tis error
[02:25] <cox377> waylandbill: bash: cd: chmod: No such file or directory
[02:26] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: you could change in the xorg.conf to set DefaultDepth 24 (or 32)
[02:26] <waylandbill> assuming your hardware supports it
[02:26] <PhinnFort> it's an radeon 9800XT
[02:26] <PhinnFort> *a
[02:26] <waylandbill> I meant the monitor, but sure you should be able to support it
[02:27] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:27] <guiden> Why isn't there a qt based direct connect client in the repositories?
[02:27] <PhinnFort> heh, i just found the error, it was set to 16, after copying the xorg.conf from knoppix to get beryl running smooth;)
[02:27] <Contrast> Does anyone know of a program that will look at a given directory and list the files it contains that most closely add up to a certain size? (e.g., I have 20 files of varying sizes in a directory. They all add up to 9 GB, and I want to not waste any space on the discs so I can get them all onto 2 DVD's.)
[02:27] <PhinnFort> guiden:
[02:27] <PhinnFort> guiden: there is
[02:27] <PhinnFort> !valknut
[02:27] <ubotu> valknut: graphical client for Direct Connect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 863 kB, installed size 3040 kB
[02:27] <PhinnFort> !valknut | guiden
[02:27] <ubotu> guiden: please see above
[02:28] <Erunno> Contrast: Backpack !
[02:28] <PhinnFort> !backpack
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backpack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <Erunno> It's not a program, sorry. Just a problem ;-)
[02:28] <Contrast> ?
[02:29] <PhinnFort> but i remember reading about such a program
[02:29] <n8k99> Contrast: you can use the file size view in konqueror
[02:29] <PhinnFort> i remember someone created a program for exactly that problem, with packing files on a cd
[02:30] <waylandbill> you almost want to tar them limiting at size or something.
[02:30] <PhinnFort> i think it was a simple bash script
[02:30] <n8k99> Contrast: in Konqueror go to the directory which has all the files you want
[02:31] <n8k99> then View > View mode > File size view
[02:31] <Erunno> Contrast: Sorry, forget about it. It's a problem I know as backpack.
[02:31] <guiden> phinnfort, valknut seems old..
[02:31] <PhinnFort> guiden: i've used it, it's pretty decent
[02:31] <n8k99> that will give you a graphical picture of the size, Contrast
[02:31] <PhinnFort> we used to have an internal dc network
[02:31] <Contrast> n8k99, I'm looking at them in file size view, but I'm not really clear on how that solves the problem?
[02:32] <Contrast> Erunno, no problem. Thanks anyway.
[02:32] <n8k99> then you can use your selection rectangle to pick up the amount you want
[02:32] <Contrast> Think it might be on SF?
[02:33] <n8k99> copy them into another directory then burn that directory
[02:33] <PhinnFort> guiden: http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~csucda/valknut.html
[02:33] <Contrast> n8k99, thanks. I'll try that.
[02:34] <n8k99> Contrast: hope it works!
[02:34] <Contrast> I'm guessing with just a little bit of knowledge, it wouldn't be hard to write a script that does it automatically, no?
[02:34] <[EG] Tauri> hey what are some cool games for linux?
[02:34] <PhinnFort> no
[02:34] <PhinnFort> [EG] Tauri: nexuiz
[02:34] <n8k99> Contrast: no it wouldn't, as long as you have that knowledge :)
[02:34] <PhinnFort> Contrast: you could go beg in #bash
[02:34] <[EG] Tauri> i think i have that 1
[02:34] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:35] <PhinnFort> zmoto
[02:35] <PhinnFort> *xmoto
[02:35] <PhinnFort> vega strike
[02:35] <Contrast> Cool, thanks for the help, everyone.
[02:35] <n8k99> [EG] Tauri: i like tuxracer
[02:35] <PhinnFort> glest
[02:35] <[EG] Tauri> any rts games?
[02:35] <PhinnFort> ppracer is better
[02:35] <PhinnFort> ppracer is built in tuxracer, only with loads of patches and stuff
[02:35] <[EG] Tauri> !rts
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <[EG] Tauri> lol
[02:36] <PhinnFort> [EG] Tauri: glest is an rts
[02:36] <[EG] Tauri> !glest
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <carl__> is there a program to control the cpu-fan?
[02:36] <PhinnFort> [EG] Tauri: http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~csucda/valknut.html
[02:36] <PhinnFort> [EG] Tauri: i had it on gentoo, it's really cool
[02:37] <PhinnFort> almost Warcraft 3-style
[02:38] <Erunno> Contrast: Writing such a program isn't very hard, but it's an np complete algorithm, meaning it has the n! complexity.
[02:38] <Erunno> *np complete problem
[02:39] <[EG] Tauri> how would i install glest?
[02:39] <PhinnFort> [EG] Tauri: look at their website for .debs
[02:39] <[EG] Tauri> k
[02:39] <[EG] Tauri> i found the installer for windows...
[02:39] <Erunno> Contrast: Well, it means that it will take a LONG time to solve this problem if you use this algorithm on many files ;-)
[02:40] <PhinnFort> Erunno: he has 20ish files
[02:41] <Erunno> PhinnFort: 20 files sound feasable.
[02:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:41] <PhinnFort> [EG] Tauri: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.ubuntugames.org/Glest&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dglest%2Bubuntu%26hl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8
[02:43] <cox377> waylandbill: did u manage to find anything on rw access on a mounted share from a non-root users?
[02:44] <_Daisuke_Ido_> this Glest intrigues me...
[02:45] <waylandbill> cox377: you need to set the mask in the fstab. I don't have an example though. should find easily with google.
[02:56] <dillinger> hi, does anyone knows about a good free software that would allow me to cut a part of 10 minutes in a divx file ???  thanks
[02:57] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:57] <PhinnFort> but the name escapes me
[02:57] <PhinnFort> you could always use cinelerra or kdenlive or something, though
[02:58] <PhinnFort> or lives or kino
[02:58] <jott> dillinger: take a look at avidemux
[02:58] <dillinger> PhinnFort: ok ill give kdenlive a try
[02:58] <dillinger> jott: Ok thx
[02:58] <BluesKaj> kino or avdemux should do it , dillinger
[02:58] <dillinger> Ok Thx a lot all
[02:58] <dillinger> ill download them all and try them
[02:59] <guiden> Ati problem, I'm following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html and when I get this on my console
[02:59] <guiden> guiden@thelab:~$ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[02:59] <guiden> Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:59] <BluesKaj> bur once ya do that, try tovid for authoring and burning afterward
[03:00] <guiden> -when
[03:00] <BluesKaj> guiden:  looking for DRI with ATI ?
[03:00] <guiden> I just want the graphic card to work as it suppose to do
[03:01] <guiden> MAXIMUM USE
[03:02] <BluesKaj> guiden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[03:03] <guiden> I've done that before but why isn't the guide in kubuntu good enoughf?
[03:05] <BluesKaj> well it is in a sense, it's part of the Ubuntu community documentation...that good 'nuff for me :)
[03:07] <amsmith42> Is there a keyboard shortcut to lock the KDE desktop?
[03:09] <MuJ> amsmith42: ctrl-alt-l
[03:12] <guiden> what happens if I press ctrl alt del?
[03:12] <ForgeAus> it will possibly shut your computer down
[03:13] <ForgeAus> (or logout/offer a logout screen?... )
[03:13] <BluesKaj> nope
[03:13] <ForgeAus> generally ctrl alt delete in most OS's is to exit...
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ctrl alt backspace will tho
[03:13] <Jucato> most OS's?
[03:13] <ubuntu> hi there
[03:14] <Tm_T> ctrl-alt-del should shut pc down/restart, that's atleast what it does here.
[03:14] <ForgeAus> well generally *nix and Windows, that covers the majority of OS's doesn't it?
[03:15] <ubuntu> i am new here, is that just an englisch chat??
[03:15] <guiden> eh
[03:15] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Yes, but there's channels for other languages too.
[03:15] <ubuntu> ok, fine
[03:15] <guiden> !help
[03:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:16] <ubuntu> ah, i see....
[03:16] <guiden> !brain
[03:16] <Jucato> !topic
[03:16] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[03:16] <Tm_T> ForgeAus: Hmm, nope, don't forget BeOS and OS/2 and others.
[03:16] <Jucato> hm...
[03:16] <ubuntu> that is a channel for faq, isn't t??
[03:16] <ubuntu> it?
[03:17] <Tm_T> ubuntu: no channels for faq, but websites are on topic.
[03:17] <Jucato> ubuntu: this is the KDE English Support Channel
[03:17] <ForgeAus> I'm not forgetting os's trust me
[03:17] <ForgeAus> but then *nix covers a broad range of operating systems...
[03:17] <BluesKaj> BSD, the closest thing to the original pure OS ...or so their porponents tell me :)
[03:17] <ForgeAus> (from Linux and its various distro's to Unix, to BSD even MacOSX)
[03:17] <pinkisntwell> hey guys... i just dled the kubuntu 6.10 iso and booted off of it, installed the nvidia drivers and killed X to restart KDE and i get a black screen with nothing happening... any suggestions?
[03:18] <ForgeAus> pink sounds like trouble
[03:18] <ubuntu> ...and wo are you??
[03:18] <BluesKaj> Forge , Unix came first, BSD is aslight derivative
[03:18] <ForgeAus> probably something in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???
[03:18] <ubuntu> ...and who are you??
[03:18] <Jucato> pinkisntwell: you need to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your kernel version
[03:19] <ForgeAus> um how to answer who is who?....
[03:19] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Sorry, we usually don't have casual chatting here (too much noise)
[03:19] <guiden> my computer freezes spontaniously after I installed the ati driver.
[03:19] <pinkisntwell> Jucato: what does that do?
[03:19] <ForgeAus> Blues I wasn't speaking chronologically or heirarchically or anything just a list... in no particular order
[03:19] <Tm_T> !de | ubuntu
[03:19] <ubotu> ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:19] <Jucato> pinkisntwell: it solves your nvidia problem
[03:19] <ForgeAus> they all imho fall under the heading of *nix
[03:19] <BluesKaj> ok ForgeAus , NP :)
[03:20] <Jucato> pinkisntwell: the nvidia driver needs the restricted modules for the kernel in order to work
[03:20] <ubuntu> ok, thanks so far.....now i just try stand in here.
[03:20] <pinkisntwell> Jucato: why isn't that in the faq?
[03:20] <Jucato> pinkisntwell: which FAQ?
[03:20] <pinkisntwell> ubuntuguide.org
[03:20] <ubuntu> best wishes too you.....and may be we will see again.....bye....
[03:20] <Jucato> pinkisntwell: I don't know. ubuntuguide is a 3rd party site
[03:21] <Jucato> better ask the author why.
[03:21] <Jucato> !nvidia | pinkisntwell
[03:21] <ubotu> pinkisntwell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:21] <Jucato> pinkisntwell: that guide does say so ^^^
[03:21] <Tm_T> Jucato: Damn you, I was one second away from that.
[03:21] <Jucato> !language | Tm_T
[03:21] <ForgeAus> lol Tm_T
[03:21] <ubotu> Tm_T: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:21] <Jucato> :P
[03:22] <ForgeAus> hmmm language bots
[03:22] <Tm_T> Also I go and hit my head to wall for a moment. ->
[03:22] <waylandbill> :)
[03:22] <waylandbill> poor wall.
[03:23] <pinkisntwell> ok thanks guys, i will try it
[03:23] <ForgeAus> Jucato still no idea how to reinstate my X? I can live with loging into TTY and just typing startX thats not hard
[03:23] <neutraloss> you want x to start automatically?
[03:23] <Jucato> ForgeAus: sorry, nope...
[03:24] <ForgeAus> I mean at least that works
[03:24] <ForgeAus> neutral it *should* yeah
[03:24] <Erunno> Are their any benefits for from the binary drivers for a user who neither uses beryl/compiz nor any other 3D application ?
[03:24] <neutraloss> are you using a session manager?
[03:24] <ForgeAus> Jucato is there a way to drop out of X from in KDM?
[03:24] <ForgeAus> Neutral you mean KDM?
[03:24] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: you could try manipulating the command line that kdm calls X with.
[03:24] <ForgeAus> StartX doesn't start KDM
[03:25] <Jucato> ForgeAus: besides Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Start Console Session in the KDM menu?
[03:25] <waylandbill> the man page for kdmrc shows how to make a custom command line get sent to X
[03:25] <ForgeAus> console session is in KDM, kewl
[03:25] <ForgeAus> does that exit to TTY? or start an Xterm?
[03:26] <Jucato> tty
[03:26] <ForgeAus> awesome, I havn't tried it (in fact forgot it was even there)
[03:26] <ForgeAus> anyway... thats got nothing to do with my current config issue
[03:26] <ForgeAus> kdmrc?
[03:26] <neutraloss> ForgeAus: I'm jumping into the conversation, but why aren't you using .desktop to start the kdm session?
[03:27] <ForgeAus> whats that and where/when's it called?
[03:27] <ForgeAus> !kdmc
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <ForgeAus> !kdmrc
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <guiden> can I play youtube videos with java?
[03:27] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: that controls kdm
[03:27] <neutraloss> no, guide
[03:27] <Jucato> neutraloss: his problem is that when he boots, it doesn't start KDM automatically. but if he types startx, it runs without a problem
[03:27] <Jucato> ForgeAus: no guide. it's a file
[03:27] <neutraloss> youtube is flash
[03:27] <neutraloss> asir
[03:27] <ForgeAus> ,desktop?
[03:27] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: I was thinking that you could put a command line to X to turn on as much debugging as possible.
[03:28] <ForgeAus> aren't they icon files mostly?
[03:28] <neutraloss> well in the session manager you have kde.desktop
[03:28] <neutraloss> in the kde.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
[03:28] <ForgeAus> where's kde's session manager, I know Ubuntu (gnome) has one
[03:28] <neutraloss> It's installed automatically for me
[03:28] <guiden>  Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.
[03:28] <ForgeAus> kde is my default session
[03:29] <guiden> that's what I'm getting
[03:29] <ForgeAus> but kdm doesn't start
[03:29] <neutraloss> have you looked at your startkde script?
[03:29] <ForgeAus> (automatically anyhow)
[03:29] <ForgeAus> startkde and X sessions happen as a part of KDM right?
[03:29] <neutraloss> Oh, you want it to log you in automatically to KDE on bootup?
[03:29] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: do you know that kdm isn't starting, or is it bailing out?
[03:30] <ForgeAus> I get TTY instead of KDM
[03:30] <guiden> I don't have flash, it doens't work on my computer
[03:30] <neutraloss> ohh
[03:30] <Bonaldo2000> I just had my startup say "USB disconnect" for a lot of devices and then freeze. I never had this before and I rebooted and there was no problem. Should I be concerned or is it just something that "happens"?
[03:30] <neutraloss> have you looked at your menu.lst?
[03:30] <ForgeAus> wayland I don't know
[03:30] <ForgeAus> but kdm starts if I run it with sudo no problems
[03:30] <neutraloss> It's possible you are booting into a lower level of init
[03:31] <ForgeAus> so you think the boot process is interrupted by a tty login before it gets to kdm?
[03:31] <ForgeAus> thats possible
[03:32] <neutraloss> ForgeAus: Was KDE ever automatically launching?
[03:32] <ForgeAus> yes
[03:32] <neutraloss> When did it break? Do you have any hypothesis what caused it?
[03:32] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: does /var/log/kdm.log show anything useful?
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> Bonaldo2000: it's not normal, but if it doesn't happen again/alog I wouldn't worry about it.
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> Bonaldo2000: it's not a laptop is it?
[03:33] <ForgeAus> not sure when it broke but ever since I've had my fstab replaced with an empty one
[03:33] <Bonaldo2000> LeeJunFan: no its a stationary computer
[03:33] <ForgeAus> kdm.log is empty!
[03:33] <ForgeAus> hmm strange
[03:33] <Bonaldo2000> LeeJunFan: ok, so you would say that I should just ignore it...I mean its not a hardware error or something like that?
[03:34] <ForgeAus> theres lotsa kdm.log.#.gz's
[03:34] <ForgeAus> and a kdm.log.1
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> Bonaldo2000: probably not if it doesn't happen again. It's tough to say from just one time.
[03:34] <Bonaldo2000> LeeJunFan: yeah, you're right. Maybe the timing was of on some device or something...
[03:34] <ForgeAus> hmmm lots of radeon issues
[03:35] <ForgeAus> the main one being: (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[03:35] <berkes>  since a few days some process is eating up 100% CPU. But it does that with spikes of half a second, every two seconds or so.
[03:35] <berkes> so top' is not very helpful in finding what process is is.
[03:35] <ForgeAus> (whats the format for that PCI:1:0:1 thing or how do I find out how to reference an AGP slot?)
[03:36] <berkes> any tips on how to find the process that behaves like this?
[03:36] <Bonaldo2000> LeeJunFan: I *might* have had it happen other times though. I had some frezes before I disabled the splah screen, but that time I could not see what caused them
[03:36] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: /etc/X11/default-display-manager contains kdm?
[03:36] <ForgeAus> btw the radeon thing isn't the issue, it happens the same even using a Generic Video Card  driver
[03:37] <waylandbill> it must since you can start it manually. n/m
[03:37] <ForgeAus> yup the only line in that file is: /usr/bin/kdm
[03:37] <DHGE> ForgeAus: check your Xorg.log
[03:38] <ForgeAus> what am I looking for?
[03:41] <DHGE> ForgeAus: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:42] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: first thing is that the timestamps are even matching when you think kdm started up (or more importantly didn't)
[03:42] <ForgeAus>       (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[03:43] <ForgeAus> (EE) RADEON(0): Microcode: cannot load microcode
[03:43] <guiden> should I do this? http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[03:43] <ForgeAus> those two lines
[03:43] <waylandbill> if kdm did start up, the timestamps in the Xorg.0.log would be some odd time.
[03:43] <ForgeAus> (the second one is kinda a side issue Generic Video Driver doesn't autostart KDM either)
[03:43] <DHGE> ForgeAus: me thinks then: NO driver problem
[03:44] <waylandbill> of course... it would help if they had timestamps. :(
[03:44] <ForgeAus> lol interesting point wayland, perhaps you could suggest it to devs?
[03:45] <waylandbill> or at least a single line with the time in it. :-)
[03:45] <waylandbill> :q
[03:45] <ForgeAus> guiden depends on if you want/need any packages from there
[03:45] <waylandbill> actually. the log's mod time should do.
[03:45] <guiden> But it doens't replace the sources.list file, it only puts a file in the directory sources.list.d
[03:46] <waylandbill> that's how you can check if kdm is really starting...
[03:46] <guiden> so how can it affect the repository list?
[03:46] <ForgeAus> you mean 02/03/07 1.30am
[03:46] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: look at the modification times of kdm.log and Xorg.0.log next time you boot.
[03:47] <ForgeAus> kdm.log is empty remember
[03:47] <ForgeAus> 01/03/07 4.27pm
[03:47] <DHGE> ForgeAus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:47] <ForgeAus> DHGE ok, but why?
[03:48] <DHGE> to get X up again ...
[03:48] <ForgeAus> I am in X
[03:48] <ForgeAus> I can startX
[03:48] <ForgeAus> it just doesn't autostart in boot process
[03:48] <guiden> I get this when I run apt-get update
[03:48] <guiden> W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[03:48] <ForgeAus> (logs me into TTY instead)
[03:48] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: doesn't matter. it can be empty but still being touched.
[03:49] <DHGE> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[03:49] <ForgeAus> xdm? ok
[03:49] <ForgeAus> Package `xdm' is not installed and no info is available.
[03:49] <neutraloss> guiden: you can repos directly to the sources.d directory
[03:49] <neutraloss> it's just another way of doing it
[03:50] <ForgeAus> all that did is ask the default display manager
[03:50] <ForgeAus> (if I used kdm)
[03:50] <weatherman> hi, if you want to use nfs how do you connect two pcs? Is a network cable sufficient?
[03:50] <neutraloss> crossover cable weatherman
[03:50] <neutraloss> unless both nics are autosensing
[03:50] <kruno_> some1 please tell me, can k9copy manage dvd protection? It is standing at 93% for about 10 minutes. tnx
[03:50] <waylandbill> guiden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318519
[03:51] <waylandbill> kruno_: depends on the protection
[03:52] <weatherman> neutraloss: sorry I don't know much about this stuff, a crossover cable is just the regular cable you can plug into your network card right?
[03:52] <kruno_> waylandbill: are there some plugins or something, i'm not so good at that.
[03:52] <cox377> can anyone recommend some good video editing software avi?
[03:52] <guiden> ok thanks
[03:53] <waylandbill> weatherman: yes, but rx/tx are flipped in it. usually yellow in color or with crossover label
[03:53] <waylandbill> kruno_: some protection are better than other is all.
[03:53] <waylandbill> kruno_: and will resist copying
[03:54] <waylandbill> weatherman: if you don't have one, they are not expensive. cheaper than a switch or router anyway. :-)
[03:54] <weatherman> waylandbill: ok, I got a yellow one, hopefully it's the right one :)
[03:54] <kruno_> waylandbill: it's a disney cartoon movie, can't belive what they do to my nephew :)
[03:55] <waylandbill> weatherman: even yellow, it should say crossover or x-over on it.
[03:56] <waylandbill> kruno_: those capitalists just want their money! :-) I wouldn't doubt it has good protection from disney
[03:57] <spawn57> is there anyway I can use udev to create symlinks for both my mice, I want different xorg.conf configs for both of them
[03:57] <neutraloss> Don't they have separate headers in xorg.conf?
[03:58] <weatherman> waylandbill, unfortunatly it just says: SSTP CAT 5 26AWGx4P PATCH E188601 (UL) TYPE CM LL84201 CSA TYPE CMG FT4... not the right one is it?
[03:58] <kruno_> waylandbill: i'm switching to another capitalists to deal with another :) tnx anyway
[03:58] <neutraloss> no weatherman :( that's a patch cord
[03:59] <weatherman> ok, then I'll go get one. The plug is the same though right?
[03:59] <neutraloss> You could try it anyway, a lot of newer NIC's don't even care.
[03:59] <neutraloss> yes exactly the same
[03:59] <AlexandraM> Hello. I've installed kubuntu 6.10 and the network does not work. The chipset is detected (ALi Corporation M523) but the network doesn't work (I've tried with both static and dhcp). Some ideas?
[04:00] <neutraloss> have you tried installing knetwork manager?
[04:00] <AlexandraM> no
[04:00] <AlexandraM> how should I do that?
[04:00] <neutraloss> in adept you can search for knetworkmanager
[04:00] <AlexandraM> download the .deb ?
[04:00] <AlexandraM> is it on the cd ?
[04:00] <neutraloss> oh duh
[04:00] <neutraloss> it may be.
[04:01] <neutraloss> You have no internet though
[04:01] <AlexandraM> does it do anything smarter than I can do with ifconfig ?
[04:01] <SlackRat> and after configuring, i often find the network doesnt connect until i reboot, or at least log out and in again.....bug or feature, ive no idea
[04:01] <neutraloss> does ifconfig show your network cards?
[04:01] <AlexandraM> yes
[04:01] <AlexandraM> eth0
[04:01] <AlexandraM> but it doesn't work
[04:02] <neutraloss> is it wired or wireless?
[04:02] <AlexandraM> wired
[04:02] <neutraloss> tried rebooting like SlackRat suggests?
[04:03] <SlackRat> sometimes thats what it takes at least on drake
[04:03] <AlexandraM> no
[04:03] <AlexandraM> I will try
[04:03] <SagaciousKJB> Does anyone know where I can get the sun-java6-bin deb package?
[04:03] <neutraloss> Try rebooting with wire plugged in
[04:03] <SagaciousKJB> I mean, other than apt. ;)
[04:03] <AlexandraM> ok
[04:03] <AlexandraM> brb
[04:03] <SlackRat> get the install setup from sun directly
[04:05] <BluesKaj> yes, the sun site has more up to date pkgs
[04:05] <weatherman> wow I'm reading through the nfs howto and it seems quite complicated... isn't there something simpler to just mount a hard disc on my pc from my laptop?
[04:05] <SagaciousKJB> Umm
[04:05] <SagaciousKJB> The download links seem to be broken on sun's site. :/
[04:06] <neutraloss> yeah just use samba
[04:06] <Jucato> SagaciousKJB: why not use apt?
[04:06] <SagaciousKJB> It's giving me a weird error that I don't understand
[04:06] <Jucato> SagaciousKJB: pastebin the error. maybe someone here could understand
[04:06] <Jucato> !pastebin | SagaciousKJB
[04:06] <ubotu> SagaciousKJB: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:07] <SagaciousKJB> *sigh*
[04:07] <SagaciousKJB> Apt suddenly began working
[04:07] <spawn57> weatherman: better to use cifs, it's not too hard
[04:07] <SagaciousKJB> When I tried to get the error for you
[04:07] <Jucato> :D
[04:07] <Jucato> isn't that great? :P
[04:07] <SagaciousKJB> This is why linux gives me such a headache.  Just weird things like this.  I guess I should be happy. :P
[04:08] <SagaciousKJB> All right, anyway
[04:08] <SagaciousKJB> THanks
[04:08] <neutraloss> Most of the time I encounter problems like that it's either permission based or a flaky internet connection
[04:08] <SagaciousKJB> The pastebin thing should be useful later on. ;)
[04:08] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah, I think it was a little bit of the latter
[04:08] <SagaciousKJB> It was telling me there was something wrong with the package, and then asking if I was root
[04:09] <SagaciousKJB> I just got done installing Dapper
[04:09] <Jucato> SagaciousKJB: you might have forgotten to use sudo in that case
[04:09] <SagaciousKJB> My installation of Edgy didn't work out too well.  I had a major kernel bug.
[04:09] <SagaciousKJB> Nah, I used sudo, I'm sure of it
[04:09] <SagaciousKJB> Even tried "su" and a root prompt
[04:09] <SagaciousKJB> So, I guess it was a flaky connection
[04:10] <Edulix> uhm
[04:10] <Edulix> which tar command creates a tar.bz2 out of a directory?
[04:10] <Edulix> and why isn't feasty herd 5 released yet?
[04:11] <Jucato> a bit late I think...
[04:12] <CShadowRun> hehe, spent 1 day using linux now :D
[04:12] <CShadowRun> made a video about windows vs linux and stuck it on youtube :P
[04:12] <CShadowRun> i didn't really need to say anything, i just kinda put them side by side and let the stats speak for themselves :P
[04:12] <SagaciousKJB> lol
[04:13] <SagaciousKJB> I just wish linux was a little easier to use.
[04:13] <CShadowRun> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zk8EAoleLg :D
[04:13] <CShadowRun> aye, i wish that too
[04:13] <CShadowRun> but im sure linux will become easier to use soon. with things like kubuntu its viable for people doing office work to use linux very easily
[04:13] <SagaciousKJB> Most of my problems stem from trying to get nvidia drivers and ntfs support, though, so not really linux's fault.
[04:13] <CShadowRun> now you just need to get the gamers sorted out, and all will be good :D
[04:14] <neutraloss> Edulix: I think it's the -j switch
[04:14] <neutraloss> type tar --help
[04:14] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah, I don't game, and sort of realized linux will be the industry standard in a few short years, so I just decided I'd get used to it now.
[04:14] <neutraloss> umm
[04:14] <neutraloss> I'm not sure how set in stone that is SagaciousKJB
[04:14] <CShadowRun> i saw a video of some guy using xgl and beryl...and i just had to have it
[04:15] <SagaciousKJB> Well, given that linux is free, and the fact that most developers seem to be switching to linux, I don't think it's long before the end-user does too.
[04:15] <CShadowRun> yea, im half of a developer
[04:15] <CShadowRun> i mostly do mIRC Stuff, but im learning java :D
[04:15] <SagaciousKJB> I think 3 countries just switched their computer systems over to linux.  There's $100 laptops in Africa now with linux on 'em I believe, and more and more people are getting sick of Ms's shit.
[04:16] <SagaciousKJB> So, maybe Mac vs. Linux, but I doubt MS will hold on to the reigns much longer.
[04:16] <neutraloss> In order for Linux to garner more support, the enduser is going to have to significantly step up their computer knowledge
[04:16] <neutraloss> all of us here likely have fooled around with computers for a while now
[04:16] <CShadowRun> mac...i don't see why anyone would use it :S
[04:16] <CShadowRun> i mean its like the car that works on 5% of the roads.
[04:16] <CShadowRun> yea :)
[04:17] <SagaciousKJB> Well, I say a few short years
[04:17] <SagaciousKJB> Becaue from what I've noticed, GUI support is becoming a lot better
[04:17] <CShadowRun> nah, all that needs to be done is all this stuff you have to do in the terminal, build a gui for it
[04:17] <CShadowRun> i mean, everything. the end user should never have to use the terminal.
[04:17] <SagaciousKJB> I doubt you'll phase out the need to be somewhat knowledgable to run a terminal, but with the amount most people use computers, I think the average end-user could get on linux now and use it.
[04:17] <CShadowRun> once you've got that far it'll seriously become viable (noobies don't like terminals)
[04:18] <CShadowRun> yea :)
[04:18] <SagaciousKJB> I dislike the terminal greatly.  lol
[04:18] <SagaciousKJB> It's one of my biggest pet peeves with linux, but I'm getting used to it.
[04:18] <neutraloss> i grew up on dos
[04:18] <CShadowRun> same here :P
[04:19] <SagaciousKJB> Well, there are some pretty stark differences between dos and a linux shell.
[04:19] <CShadowRun> all you guys gotta do, is get xgl and beryl in your bootable ubuntu disc, and create gui's for 99.9% of the stuff that needs to be done with terminal
[04:19] <CShadowRun> and the people will start flooding in imo :P
[04:19] <SagaciousKJB> Enough of which to make me grind my teeth each time I try to open a directory with spaces in it with bash. :P
[04:19] <neutraloss> hehe, tabcomplete ftw
[04:19] <Jucato> SagaciousKJB: have you tried Tab?
[04:19] <guiden> I know alot of html but I don't know how to make a website, what should I do?
[04:19] <CShadowRun> lol
[04:19] <SagaciousKJB> Of course
[04:19] <SagaciousKJB> But sometimes it won't work
[04:19] <BluesKaj> the terminal is intimidating at first, but after one learns how powerful and easy it can be to use then it can be a godsend IMO :)
[04:19] <guiden> I mean an adress
[04:19] <guiden> server
[04:19] <SagaciousKJB> Like, for instance, I had a folder called "An Inconvenient Truth" *cough*justsomeoldfolder*
[04:20] <SagaciousKJB> Typing "sudo rm -R An\" and then tab, wouldn't tab complete it
[04:20] <DaSkreech> CShadowRun: Wrong :)
[04:20] <SagaciousKJB> Had to type out the whole thing myself.  Not a big deal with a directory that small, but some of mine get to be REALLY long
[04:20] <neutraloss> or sudom rm -rf An (tab tab)
[04:20] <CShadowRun> [DaSkreech-> why? :P
[04:20] <neutraloss> I start hitting tab tab pretty early on
[04:21] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: try "sudo rm -r An\ "
[04:21] <SagaciousKJB> So I have to do a double-tab for that or what?
[04:21] <neutraloss> tab tab just lists all the matches
[04:21] <ForgeAus> hmm my printer gets a DHCP address, how can I get linux to sniff it out?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: Makes a lot of difference
[04:21] <SagaciousKJB> Nah, it removes the directory find, I'm just talking about tab complete. :P
[04:21] <Mena> Hi, i always get a message at startup ata1 disabing port , ata2 diabling port and also make system check ....what is this ?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> CShadowRun: Still need games for peopel to flock
[04:21] <ForgeAus> in winXP it works
[04:21] <neutraloss> ForgeAus: cups?
[04:21] <CShadowRun> [DaSkreech-> true, but thats as simple as wine
[04:21] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: What removes directory find?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> CShadowRun: no it's not and you bloody well know it :)
[04:22] <CShadowRun> someone needs to make a 'smart' wine that looks at the name of the exe your trying to run and sets itself up automatically
[04:22] <SagaciousKJB> "sudo -R *dir*"
[04:22] <ForgeAus> does cups have a kioslave?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> CShadowRun: Native games by publishers FTW!
[04:22] <SagaciousKJB> I was just commenting on how tab complete won't work for that scenario
[04:22] <SagaciousKJB> At least not for me
[04:22] <CShadowRun> [dasickis-> :P
[04:22] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: Describe what you and what happens
[04:23] <DaSkreech> What you do even
[04:23] <SagaciousKJB> I type "sudo rm -R An\" then tab, expecting it to autocomplete with "sudo rm -R An\ Inconvenient\ Truth/"
[04:23] <SagaciousKJB> However it just sits there and does nothing
[04:23] <CShadowRun> yay, wine will run counter strike source
[04:24] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: Have you deleted it already?
[04:24] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Wiil it run ShadowRun? :)
[04:24] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: remake one :)
[04:24] <SagaciousKJB> All right
[04:24] <SlackRat> why the  backslashes?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> mkdir "An Inconvient Truth"
[04:24] <CShadowRun> [DaSkreech-> according to the wine website
[04:24] <DaSkreech> SlackRat: They escape spaces
[04:25] <CShadowRun> i'll give it a shot and get back to you :P
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> Yup
[04:25] <DaSkreech> SlackRat: Or rather special Characters
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> Still won't auto-complete
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> Oh, nvm
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> I see what I did
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> Finally
[04:25] <AlexandraM> no luck :(
[04:25] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: ok try "sudo rm -r An\ " <tab>
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> It was 'cause I had the "\" there actually
[04:25] <Jucato> :P
[04:25] <SagaciousKJB> Terminal illiteracy is a major problem. :P
[04:26] <Jucato> Tab places that '\' for you
[04:26] <ForgeAus> so all I really need is a url to my printer...
[04:26] <Jucato> Terminal illiterate people don't know about the '\' :P
[04:26] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: You know what you were doing. You were escaping the tab
[04:26] <LL_Hakaisou> morning all
[04:26] <ninHer> hi all
[04:27] <SagaciousKJB> What does that mean, DaSkreech?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> All isn't here right now. Would you like to leave a message
[04:27] <AlexandraM> lspci reports this ethernet controller: 'ALi Corporation M5263 Ethernet Controller (rev 50)'. I can see it in ifconfig, but dhcp doesn't work and I cannot acces the network with static configuration. what can I do to fix this?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: ou know what \ does right?
[04:27] <AlexandraM> the module that's loaded for this is uli525x
[04:27] <endermuabdib> hi
[04:27] <AlexandraM> no, uli526x
[04:28] <SagaciousKJB> DaSkreech: Not really, I just know I need it to refer to a directory with spaces
[04:28] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: it "escapes" a special character so that the shell doesn't interpret it as special
[04:28] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: it escapes character presses that have special meaning to the terminal
[04:28] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: Like > or |
[04:28] <SagaciousKJB> Oh, right
[04:28] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: the space is normally an argument separator to commands
[04:28] <Mena> Whay i always get systen check for the padtitions ??
[04:28] <DaSkreech> You can use anything in a name but if it's special you have to escape it
[04:29] <Mena> system * partitions*
[04:29] <Chousuke> pretty much
[04:29] <DaSkreech> You did "rm An\" instead of "rm An\ "
[04:29] <Chousuke> I don't think NUL and / are allowed in Filenames
[04:29] <DaSkreech> You need that extra space to make tab work again
[04:29] <Chousuke> not with ext3 at least
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: Fine fine :-P
[04:30] <SagaciousKJB> You know, I had a question about files and directories for linux
[04:30] <SagaciousKJB> I know that in Windows, it needs a ".whatever" to be a file
[04:30] <SagaciousKJB> But in linux, if I say sometyhing like, "/dev/hda1" Is hda1 a file or a directory?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: In Unix everything is a file except users and groups
[04:30] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: hda is a file
[04:30] <SagaciousKJB> So, it doesn't matter if there is no ".extension"?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: directories are fiels as well
[04:30] <Chousuke> yeah
[04:31] <DaSkreech> files
[04:31] <Jucato> SagaciousKJB: hda is a file. but in some cases, /foo1/foo2, foo2 may be a file or a directory
[04:31] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: extensions have no meaning in UNIX.
[04:31] <Jucato> they only have arbitrary meanings
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: not fully true but ...
[04:31] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: you could name a text file .jpg if you wanted.
[04:31] <Erunno> They are useful nontheless :D
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: if it matches magic then it does
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then crud...
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm getting this error message.
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> E: The package vmware-player needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> E: The package vmware-player needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:31] <LL_Hakaisou> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[04:32] <SagaciousKJB> Is magic some kind of extension-filetype correspondonce refference?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Probably need to delete the deb file
[04:32] <SagaciousKJB> i've noticed "magic" mentioned a few times before, and wondered what it was.
[04:32] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: very good :)
[04:32] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: magick.
[04:32] <Chousuke> it's just that.
[04:32] <Chousuke> -k too
[04:32] <Chousuke> no need to worry about it, since usually magic just works.
[04:32] <Chousuke> ;P
[04:33] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah, I've wonered what that was seeing it in a few terminal lines before.  It didn't throw me through as much of a loop as when I typed "apt-get" and it said, "aptitude does not have super cow powers" or something.
[04:33] <Chousuke> basically, the contents and type of a file are determined by looking at what it contains
[04:33] <Chousuke> not by the extension
[04:34] <SagaciousKJB> Okay, I have a question then
[04:34] <SagaciousKJB> I don't know if anyone is familiar with "copy /b" in windows, but you can basically merge one file into one of another sort, then rename the file extension to view either of the files.
[04:34] <SagaciousKJB> Would I just be able to open a file like that in say, a pdf reader if it was merged with a pdf?
[04:35] <Chousuke> I'm not sure how that would work.
[04:35] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah, it seems to be sort of just for windows, but I use to download ebooks like that.
[04:35] <Chousuke> if you merge a PDF with a JPG by concatenating, the result is something that is neither a PDF nor a JPG
[04:36] <SagaciousKJB> Hold on a moment, I'll grab you something to better explain what I mean
[04:36] <ubuntu> hey guys, i'm installing kubuntu and I want to know what filesystem to choose. is it ext3?
[04:36] <guiden> is gmail down?
[04:36] <guiden> is google taking over the world?
[04:36] <Jucato> ubuntu: yes, that is the default for Kubuntu
[04:36] <_Daisuke_Ido_> gmail's working just fine
[04:36] <ubuntu> isn't there anything better by now?
[04:36] <Chousuke> let me just boot w2k and I'll see what /b does :p
[04:37] <dwidmann2> If anyone has a moment can they dpkg -S some files for me? (I'm on my friends very non-linux laptop)
[04:37] <Jucato> ubuntu: there are other alternatives, but whether they are better, it's a subjective question
[04:37] <_Daisuke_Ido_> friends don't let friends run windows.
[04:38] <SagaciousKJB> Choksuke: The command will be something like, "copy /b inputfile1 inputfile2 outputfile"
[04:38] <jhutchins> ubuntu: There are newer filesystems, but ext3 works pretty well and has the advantage of several years of development.
[04:38] <_Daisuke_Ido_> Jucato: do you know if reiserfs is still being developed?
[04:38] <SagaciousKJB> Then to view the files, you just rename the extension on the output file, under Windows of course.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Whats the problem you have with ext3?
[04:39] <Jucato> _Daisuke_Ido_: sorry, don't know...
[04:39] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: aha
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Chousuke: qemu?
[04:39] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: that just concatenates the files.
[04:39] <timster> !bittorrent
[04:39] <Chousuke> DaSkreech: I run OS X. Virtual PC
[04:39] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: Yes, it's possible to concatenate files in linux, even files of unrelated type.  You'll probably get a file that won't read properly with either type of reader thoguh.
[04:39] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[04:39] <timster> !torrent
[04:39] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:39] <SagaciousKJB> jhutchins: That's exactly what happened when I tried it under linux
[04:39] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: the same thing is achieved with cat input1 input2 > output
[04:39] <SagaciousKJB> I'm more concerned with how to open the files that had it done under Windows, though.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> _Daisuke_Ido_: Isn't he in jail?
[04:40] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: The resulting file is the same.
[04:40] <_Daisuke_Ido_> DaSkreech: yeah, that's kind of why i'm wondering
[04:40] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: The result is usually nonsense though
[04:40] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: If you mix two binary formats, you're not likely to be able to open them.
[04:40] <_Daisuke_Ido_> i think he's made "psychotic genius" status
[04:40] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: What you might be able to do is to open the application that you want to view the file with, and see if it can view it.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: so you can cp \b a jpg and a mp3 to a .txt and get the lyrics and album art in ascii ?
[04:41] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: I have a feeling that you have a misunderstanding about how files and file formats in general work
[04:41] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: Reading the first file might work, but that first file will just be garbage to the viewer for the second file.
[04:41] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: I'm skeptical that you can view both in windows.
[04:41] <SagaciousKJB> jhutchins: It works in Windows, i've done it so many times I can't count
[04:42] <jhutchins> By the way, many programs in Linux _do_ use the file extension to guess a filetype, they're just not as bound by it as Windows software is.
[04:42] <SagaciousKJB> Here, this picture explains it
[04:42] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: It might be that your ebook format is really a plain pdf file
[04:42] <SagaciousKJB> Kaffeine
[04:42] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: Ok, give me a specific example of two disparate file formats and what you use to view the output.
[04:42] <SagaciousKJB> Whoops
[04:42] <SagaciousKJB> http://www.anonib.com/bookchan/images/1/1166083656420.jpeg
[04:43] <jhutchins> Ok, yeah, that works in linux too.
[04:43] <SagaciousKJB> Now, that worked countless times under Windows for me.  However I've not really tried it too much under linux.
[04:43] <Chousuke> what a weird trick
[04:43] <Chousuke> what use could that be, besides obfuscation.
[04:43] <jhutchins> It's often used to conceal trojans.
[04:44] <SagaciousKJB> it's used to embed files on imageboards a lot.
[04:44] <SagaciousKJB> Mp3s, rars, etc.
[04:44] <Chousuke> ah
[04:44] <Chousuke> so if you download an image you get teh RAR.
[04:44] <SagaciousKJB> I've never ran into a trojan in one, but I'm sure it's possible.
[04:44] <jhutchins> cp jpg > output.rar && cat input.rar >> output.rar
[04:44] <SagaciousKJB> Yup, Chousuke
[04:45] <Chousuke> jhutchins: that doesn't work
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Oh they used to do this to add .bat files to id3 tags in mp3s so when you played it it ran a script
[04:45] <jhutchins> SagaciousKJB: You've never detected a trojan you may have downloaded.
[04:45] <DaSkreech> I remember this
[04:45] <Chousuke> just cat file.jpg file.rar > output.jpg
[04:45] <jhutchins> Chousuke: That'll work too.
[04:46] <SagaciousKJB> :/
[04:46] <Chousuke> SagaciousKJB: anyway, yeah, concatenation is possible
[04:46] <zicero> i know this is offtopic .. how (besides using nslookup) could i possibly find out "who owns/is_provider_of an ip address" ?!
[04:46] <Chousuke> I'm not sure if readers like it though.
[04:46] <SagaciousKJB> Okay, well, I'll brb
[04:46] <SagaciousKJB> I need to restart x
[04:47] <DaSkreech> zicero: dig
[04:47] <Chousuke> of course, you can always make a tool that splits the file.
[04:47] <DaSkreech> SagaciousKJB: alt+ctrl+Bkspace :)
[04:47] <Chousuke> but it's not a trivial task for a non-programmer
[04:47] <SagaciousKJB> I actually just use steghide to do it between windows
[04:47] <SagaciousKJB> *linux
[04:47] <jhutchins> zicero: If necessary, sudo apt-get install whois && whois <address>.
[04:47] <ForgeAus> interesting distro timeline: http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png
[04:47] <jhutchins> zicero: Also available on some websites.
[04:49] <flaccid> zicero: dnstuff.com geo ip by location
[04:50] <amsmith42> Is there a keyboard shortcut to lock the session?
[04:50] <Jucato> amsmith42: Ctrl+Alt+L
[04:50] <jhutchins> The key part here is that rar will persist in reading non-rar data from a file until it either ends or it finds a rar header.
[04:50] <amsmith42> Thank you.
[04:51] <SagaciousKJB> Yeah, that's what I've always understood about it, but it also seems to work on mp3s
[04:51] <SagaciousKJB> Not all the time, but quite a bit.
[04:52] <PF-Away> !feisty
[04:52] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:52] <freeman> hello
[04:52] <freeman> blin inostranchi
[04:52] <freeman> gg
[04:54] <timster> !deluge
[04:54] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[04:54] <SagaciousKJB> Is anyone here a ChaCha guide by chance?
[04:54] <SagaciousKJB> I'm trying to find more guides who use Linux, trying to get it working.
[04:54] <Tibmol> how can i install my zoom usb modem ?
[04:56] <timster> !limewire
[04:56] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:56] <Jucato> !deluge-torrent | timster
[04:56] <ubotu> timster: deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1466 kB, installed size 3888 kB
[04:56] <timster> !frostwire
[04:56] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:57] <timster> Is frost wire in the repppos?
[04:57] <Jucato> nope. the wiki page gives instructions on how to install it though
[04:58] <timster> Ok
[04:58] <SlackRat> timster, yes
[04:59] <pappone> hello
[04:59] <pappone> does it exist a 64-bit version of kubuntu?
[04:59] <timster> Yes
[04:59] <fdoving> pappone: yes.
[04:59] <Jucato> !64bit
[04:59] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[05:00] <timster> EMT64 = Yuck
[05:00] <timster> !EMT64
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emt64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <SlackRat> tho, i have most of the repos enabled, including mulitverse
[05:00] <Tibmol> does ubuntu support zoom usb modem ?
[05:00] <timster> SlackRat: I couldn't find it
[05:00] <timster> But I have alot ennabled
[05:00] <SlackRat> how many pkgs show up in synaptic as available?
[05:00] <timster> Im on Kubuntu :p
[05:01] <Jucato> SlackRat: frostwire isn't in the repositories
[05:01] <SlackRat> me too
[05:01] <timster> Synaptic is Gnome?
[05:01] <SlackRat> thats where i got it, it shows up in synaptic
[05:01] <SlackRat> synaptic runs on kde as well
[05:01] <timster> Oh
[05:01] <Jucato> SlackRat: you might have added some 3rd party repository then
[05:01] <timster> Well, I have the deb installled
[05:01] <SlackRat> even on distros like kanotix or mepis which are kde
[05:01] <Tibmol> does ubuntu support zoom usb modem ?
[05:02] <SlackRat> might be jucato
[05:02] <Jucato> in which case, frostwire is not in the default ubuntu repositories
[05:02] <SlackRat> total avail pkgs is round 18800
[05:03] <timster> !java
[05:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:03] <timster> :o
[05:03] <timster> I cant use Adept?
[05:03] <SlackRat> why not?
[05:04] <Jucato> in installing Java? not on Edgy or Dapper
[05:04] <SlackRat> oh....java. bleh
[05:05] <timster> Dapper
[05:05] <timster> Right
[05:05] <timster> The instruction is
[05:05] <timster>   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:06] <timster> But It cant find the package
[05:06] <SlackRat> is it recommeded at this point, on dapper, to upgrade from the sun java to 6?
[05:06] <ForgeAus> how do I run hplip?
[05:06] <timster> No, just sais install sun java
[05:07] <SlackRat> yes but 6 is available now
[05:07] <SlackRat> which is what im wondering
[05:07] <timster> Hmmm
[05:07] <Jucato> you need to enable multiverse
[05:07] <timster> I have
[05:08] <timster> Whats the multivers reppo?
[05:08] <fuel> java 6 rocks! :)
[05:08] <timster> !multiverse
[05:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:08] <SlackRat> most of the rest of the unsupported debian pkgs out there
[05:09] <SlackRat> yes but does java 6 rock on dapper?
[05:09] <fuel> :)
[05:09] <fuel> yeah its good...... no problems so far
[05:10] <SlackRat> great
[05:10] <waylandbill> I didn't notice a difference from 5. :-)
[05:11] <timster> I havent got the multiverse reppos on here
[05:11] <SlackRat> oh wait, no universe is the rest of em, and multiverse is the not free
[05:11] <timster> Oh, is it gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:11] <SlackRat> so long as it doesnt start crashing java based programs....
[05:11] <timster> Will it matter if I get drid of the GB bit?
[05:11] <timster> rid*
[05:13] <LL_Hakaisou> !skype
[05:13] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:13] <waylandbill> timster: you use a different mirror
[05:17] <LL_Hakaisou> ok i have a problem
[05:17] <LL_Hakaisou> when i try to install vmplayer on adept, it gets to 20% and just halts
[05:18] <LL_Hakaisou> no error message or nothing
[05:18] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmplayer
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware
[05:18] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[05:18] <fuel> is vmware a complete version?
[05:18] <fuel> :O
[05:18] <SlackRat> complete? meaning?
[05:18] <timster> Doubt it
[05:19] <timster> VMware is commercial
[05:19] <SlackRat> vmplayer is free, so is server.......youre thinking of vmworkstation
[05:19] <fuel> then there is only the trail version (limited) and i doubt you could do anything with it
[05:19] <SlackRat> free as in you dont have to buy it, proprietary tho
[05:20] <SlackRat> vmplayer? fully functional
[05:20] <SlackRat> just cant make vmx images with it
[05:20] <timster> !Gnutella
[05:20] <LL_Hakaisou> brb. need to relog
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <fuel> :D
[05:20] <SlackRat> you need workstation to install and clone your own vmx
[05:20] <fuel> !limewire
[05:20] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:20] <LL_Hakaisou> !frostwire
[05:20] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:20] <fiyawerx> !java
[05:20] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:20] <LL_Hakaisou> there you go
[05:20] <LL_Hakaisou> use that
[05:20] <LL_Hakaisou> !frostwire > timster
[05:21] <fuel> !limewire >fuel
[05:21] <LL_Hakaisou> i think i did that right
[05:21] <fuel> nice :)
[05:21] <timster> Yeah
[05:21] <LL_Hakaisou> donn't use limewire
[05:21] <timster> I got it :P
[05:21] <fiyawerx> !multiverse
[05:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:21] <LL_Hakaisou> use frostwire
[05:21] <timster> I want the network
[05:21] <SlackRat> bot abuse!
[05:21] <fuel> :)
[05:21] <timster> !bot abuse
[05:21] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[05:22] <LL_Hakaisou> it's the same, except open source, with all hte functionality of limewire pro
[05:22] <fuel> !msgthebot
[05:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:22] <timster> !ping
[05:22] <ubotu> pong
[05:22] <fuel> limewire doesnt look good on linux :(
[05:22] <fuel> or better swing looks bad on linux.....
[05:22] <fuel> but java 1.6 looks good with gtk+ laf
[05:22] <SlackRat> you want pretty or you just wanna steal music?
[05:22] <[EG] Tauri> hey um...
[05:22] <fuel> SlackRat:  :D
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> using wine, i cant type anything
[05:23] <timster> I installed gtk-Gnutella but I cant get to it.
[05:23] <fuel> but who wants gtk+? :-&
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> it wont let me type in my login info for steam
[05:23] <soulrider> downlaoding music is bad, buy it with tons of DRM, its better
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> any1 help with this?
[05:23] <timster> :P
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> !steam
[05:23] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> yeah that dont help
[05:23] <timster> [EG] Tauri: Have you got the right keyboard layout
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> um
[05:23] <[EG] Tauri> dunno
[05:24] <[EG] Tauri> im typing to u right now arnt i?
[05:24] <[EG] Tauri> or do i have to configure wine?
[05:25] <[EG] Tauri> ?
[05:25] <soulrider> we can see what you type [EG] Tauri
[05:26] <[EG] Tauri> yeah
[05:26] <[EG] Tauri> but why cant i type anything on a program using wine?
[05:27] <[EG] Tauri> !wine
[05:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:28] <timster> !java
[05:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:29] <timster> Any torrent users here?
[05:29] <fuel> timster: meeeeee
[05:29] <[EG] Tauri> me too
[05:29] <soulrider> timster: yes
[05:29] <fuel> but what is the warning about not using adept ?
[05:29] <soulrider> fuel: theres a bug
[05:30] <rittyan_> Hi all, can kubuntu fit into 1G or.. how much space do I need for base and somehow-featured installation?
[05:30] <timster> Whats the best search engine to use to find a song?
[05:30] <soulrider> and adept wont show the licence agreement
[05:30] <fuel> oh
[05:30] <fuel> timster: try joining some illegal channel
[05:30] <fuel> timster: :P
[05:30] <timster> :(
[05:30] <soulrider> timster: if you just want a song why dont you try Frostwire ?
[05:30] <timster> Because I need JAVA
[05:30] <timster> And I can't get java
[05:30] <soulrider> and yes, try not to do illegal stuff here
[05:30] <soulrider> timster: why not ?
[05:30] <fuel> but couldnt guys just change the laf of adept ?
[05:30] <fuel> it looks very cluttered :(
[05:31] <ForgeAus> so the only way to execute Mac apps is an emulator like Basillisk or Virtualizer (VMware for Tiger).... :(... why isn't there some wine-like project for Mac apps?
[05:31] <soulrider> fuel: laf?
[05:31] <timster> It won't install, I think Im using the wrong multiverse
[05:31] <Cugel> fuel: okay, we'll change it.
[05:31] <fuel> sorry.. not laf exactly .... the gui...
[05:31] <soulrider> fuel: i think the GUI is fune, have you tried Synaptic ?
[05:31] <fuel> even i want to participate in it :)
[05:31] <timster> What multiverse are you guys using
[05:31] <soulrider> timster: the only one :P
[05:31] <soulrider> !repos
[05:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:31] <fuel> no i dont want to see gtk+ apps :-&
[05:31] <timster> Yeah
[05:31] <soulrider> might wanna read that
[05:31] <timster> But the java isnt on there
[05:32] <timster> I have a gb mirror of it
[05:32] <soulrider> it is
[05:32] <timster> I can't find it
[05:32] <fuel> timster : http://ubuntuguide.org
[05:32] <timster> Whats the name of the package?
[05:32] <fuel> or com what ever.....it has detailed instructions!
[05:32] <soulrider> timster: want me to send my sources.list ? you could replace it for the one you have and install java and then use the old one back
[05:32] <moi> hello people, you know a place where I can ask questions about monodevelop+C#+oracle XE 10g??????
[05:32] <fuel> moi: surely not here!
[05:33] <fuel> moi: try #mono or #mono-devel
[05:33] <moi> ok
[05:33] <timster> soulrider: Im on dapper, could you just tell me the multiverse one?
[05:33] <soulrider> timster: i think the package is sun-java6-jre
[05:33] <soulrider> timster: use a console to install it though
[05:34] <timster> sun-java6-jre, apt-get doesnt find it
[05:34] <moi> also you can check if already installed the command "update-alternatives --display java" (for see if is there, then if the java "provider" is sun or gcj or any other)
[05:34] <soulrider> hold on
[05:34] <soulrider> yes, timster the name of the package is that
[05:35] <soulrider> timster: hold on a moment
[05:35] <timster> What about using easy ubuntu?
[05:35] <linija> hello. anyone know why kontact sometimes doesn't save changes?
[05:35] <fuel> and dont choose java doc package.....it does not install and it keeps asking to install over and over again!
[05:35] <soulrider> timster: dont know, i wouldnt personally
[05:36] <soulrider> timster: you will want to read this http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/13/ubuntu-quickie-enable-dapper-repositories/ and follow those instructions
[05:36] <guiden> is there a way to search for only painting programs like krita and others?
[05:37] <fuel> guiden : try kolorpaint
[05:37] <soulrider> guiden: maybe gimp or kolorpaint
[05:37] <fuel> or gimp
[05:37] <fuel> kolorpaint is really good :)
[05:37] <soulrider> its like M$ Paint... on steroids
[05:37] <guiden> ok
[05:38] <fuel> its easy to use....
[05:39] <fuel> both krita and gimp are abominations ! takes years to learn em
[05:39] <guiden> yeah I wan't something easy because I more into pixel art
[05:39] <guiden> i'm
[05:41] <guiden> great programs, It has grids!
[05:41] <timster> :O
[05:41] <timster> Libdvdcss2 is illegal to install in the us without paying?
[05:42] <fuel> he he
[05:42] <`nicola> How do I know which version of kubuntu I'm running ?
[05:42] <timster> !swiftfox
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <fuel> timster: :P
[05:42] <Chousuke> `nicola: cat /etc/lsb_release
[05:44] <`nicola> thanks Chousuke
[05:44] <soulrider> !ati
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <fuel> but swiftfox is well known!!!
[05:45] <fuel> some one has to feed the bot with swiftfox url
[05:46] <timster> What is swiftfox
[05:46] <fuel> its optimized version of firefox (disclaimer  : that is the description of swiftfox)
[05:47] <SlackRat> lighter too
[05:47] <fuel> firefox is a bit slow since it uses gtk+ :P
[05:47] <fuel> and they wont develop a kde version x(
[05:48] <fuel> :((
[05:49] <fuel> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Firefox+KDE+Integration
[05:50] <timster> I got java to work
[05:50] <timster> Automatix2 :P
[05:51] <waylandbill> setting the arch for your system and then apt-building firefox will make a swiftfox.
[05:51] <sysadmin> hola
[05:51] <Mena> Why when i set the system to suspend mode i cant open it form moving the mouse or press any key on the keybord
[05:52] <sysadmin> somos nuevos en esto del Linux/ubuntu
[05:52] <Mena> and also the monitor doesnt open up
[05:52] <sysadmin> hello
[05:52] <fuel> Mena: you have to press the power button on your computer
[05:52] <Mena> fule, yes
[05:52] <sysadmin> we are new in this
[05:53] <fuel> Mena: i dont know why it doesnt respond!!! but thats the way to resume
[05:53] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[05:53] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:53] <fuel> press power button + keep pressing your key board or something.... force it wake up ! <:-D
[05:53] <Mena> fule, okay but the monitor doesnt open after preeing the power button
[05:54] <fuel> yeah as soon as the monitor switches on move your mouse or press keyboard ... it will work
[05:54] <Mena> fuel , ok
[05:58] <rob-west> can someome help me setup kmail
[05:58] <comosicus> i'm trying to find a irc server adres in spain ......can anybody help me
[05:58] <rob-west> for sbcglobal.net
[05:58] <soulrider> !schedule
[05:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:59] <timster> When It sais its supported for 18 months, does that mean everyone will ignore you after 28 months
[05:59] <timster> 18*
[05:59] <comosicus> i'm trying to find a irc server adres in spain ......can anybody help me
[05:59] <Alumin> comosicus: there should be a server list on the home page for whatever network, http://www.freenode.net/ for example
[05:59] <yaccin> !mdadm
[05:59] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5.2 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 456 kB
[05:59] <timster> Because I only use dapper, but hopefully it wont go out of date
[06:00] <Alumin> comosicus: and we heard you the first time
[06:00] <Alumin> timster: I think it means, no official package updates after that time
[06:00] <timster> Ah, thanks
[06:00] <Alumin> so you're on your own with security fixes etc
[06:00] <timster> How easy is it to upgrade to breezy
[06:01] <timster> ect
[06:01] <waylandbill> timster: shouldn't for 5 years I thought.
[06:01] <yaccin> !sp comosicus
[06:01] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[06:01] <waylandbill> that's why it's LTS
[06:01] <Alumin> going to breezy from dapper would be a downgrade
[06:01] <timster> !upgrade
[06:01] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:01] <soulrider> !feisty
[06:01] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:01] <yaccin> !es | comosicus
[06:01] <ubotu> comosicus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:01] <timster> How can I upgrade from dapper to edgy
[06:02] <Alumin> rob-west: what, specifically, are you having trouble with?
[06:02] <yaccin> timster: replace all the dappers in you /etc/aot/sources.list with edgy
[06:02] <timster> What was the first ubuntu called?
[06:02] <yaccin> do a sudo apt-get update
[06:02] <yaccin> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:02] <yaccin> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:02] <yaccin> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <timster> l
[06:02] <yaccin> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:02] <yaccin> should be it :)
[06:03] <Tm_T> eean: Har.
[06:03] <eean> Tm_T:  argh"?
[06:03] <timster> !breezy
[06:03] <ubotu> breezy is the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger".  Upgrading to !dapper : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[06:03] <timster> !ubuntu 5
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu 5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <Tm_T> eean: Just har.
[06:03] <Alumin> timster: warty warthog
[06:04] <soulrider> !naming
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about naming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <soulrider> !names
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about names - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <Alumin> then hoary hedgehog
[06:04] <timster> Ok yeah
[06:04] <timster> Upgrading a,arpl takes hours
[06:04] <timster> amarok*
[06:05] <timster> But overall I need to upgrade 160 packages :P
[06:05] <Tm_T> timster: What exactly take hours? Downloading packages?
[06:05] <timster> Yeah, Im installing the amarok update
[06:05] <Alumin> for stuff like that, I like to do "apt-get -dy dist-upgrade" first
[06:05] <timster> and there are hundresds of packages.
[06:05] <timster> 21% and its installed 70 packages
[06:05] <Alumin> I need to upgrade to edgy
[06:06] <timster> Same ^ ^
[06:06] <Alumin> although I may just wait for feisty and reinstall
[06:06] <timster> Hmm
[06:06] <Alumin> I really want Vim 7.x though
[06:06] <Alumin> tabs in gVim!
[06:06] <Tm_T> timster: Installed? I thought you're still downloading them.
[06:06] <Alumin> give to me!
[06:07] <timster> Yeah, tahts what I meant
[06:07] <Tm_T> ;)
[06:07] <timster> !gVim
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <timster> Whats Vim
[06:07] <Alumin> only thing I don't like about the upgrade is that LightScribe doesn't work in anything newer than dapper for some reason that nobody seems to know yet
[06:07] <Alumin> timster: text editor
[06:07] <timster> Beter than kate?
[06:08] <Alumin> depending on your definition of better, yeah
[06:08] <timster> !Quanta
[06:08] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB
[06:08] <timster> I use that for my php
[06:08] <Alumin> _I_ like it better than Kate, but you know how people are about their text editors
[06:09] <moi> rob-west talvez te sirva la red http://www.irc-hispano.org/
[06:10] <timster> Could always ask on the spanaish Kubuntu channel, they may know?
[06:10] <Tm_T> moi: English please.
[06:11] <moi> for the guy that say if he can find a net in spanish, maybe the servers at http://www.irc-hispano.org/ perhaps a ubuntu or related channel is there (I dont know im not logged there)
[06:11] <BluesKaj> Alumin:  what's better than Kate ?
[06:11] <SlackRat> #kubuntu-es
[06:12] <Tm_T> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:12] <moi> I see :)
[06:13] <Alumin> BluesKaj: I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may start a flame war :)
[06:13] <timster> Why does an amarok update need to update Openoffice?
[06:13] <SlackRat> whats 'best' discussions are a waste of time
[06:13] <SlackRat> so you can convert your text files to mp3
[06:14] <SlackRat> :-P
[06:14] <timster> >_,
[06:14] <timster> >_<
[06:14] <BluesKaj> LOL Alumin, merely asking for your opinion , just curious.. i believe in the, "to each his own", attitude.
[06:14] <timster> WHY ARE YOU INSTALLING SWAHILI. AMAROK DOESNT NEED SWAHILI
[06:15] <pulaski> hello
[06:15] <Tm_T> timster: No caps.
[06:15] <timster> Sorry
[06:15] <Tm_T> timster: You did "apt-get upgrade" etc that does upgrade whole system, not only amarok.
[06:15] <Tm_T> Right?
[06:16] <Alumin> BluesKaj: well, I prefer g?Vim
[06:16] <timster> Im using Automatix2 to install Amarok 1.4
[06:16] <Tm_T> !automatix
[06:16] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:17] <Tm_T> timster: See that.
[06:17] <BluesKaj> well SlackRat, sometimes a discussion about programs helps enlight us noobs ...hence the question. :)
[06:17] <timster> Oh
[06:17] <timster> dear
[06:17] <house> I need to decode a flac file the docs say to type this "flac -d [INPUTFILE [...] ] "   ,,,,, what do i put in input file, do I need a dir path there?
[06:17] <timster> Oops
[06:17] <SlackRat> sometimes using the program enlightens us more
[06:17] <timster> !WorksForMe
[06:17] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:17] <BluesKaj> SlackRat, if we know about it , yeah.
[06:17] <timster> Dya recon it will break?
[06:18] <timster> I have so far installed java correctly
[06:18] <timster> !automatix2
[06:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:18] <SlackRat> waht are you breaking now timster?
[06:18] <timster> Im not
[06:18] <SlackRat> heh
[06:18] <timster> Automatix may be :P
[06:18] <pulaski> When I use the Adept updater I get this error: http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg
[06:18] <pulaski> When I use the Adept updater I get this error: http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg
[06:18] <SlackRat> oh, right, and who installed automatix and ran it?
[06:19] <timster> Me
[06:19] <timster> lol
[06:19] <pulaski> I think I'm missing a gpg key
[06:19] <timster> Hopefully it will work
[06:19] <timster> >_<
[06:19] <christiane> I am working with kubuntu and I am looking for a software to create web photo albums. (I tried to install cthumbs but don't know where to look for it...)
[06:19] <timster> Its installing the latest Linux Image
[06:19] <pulaski> I have to cancel the download to proceed
[06:19] <timster> Werent there problems with that
[06:20] <pulaski> does anyone know how I can get the required gpg key to avoid this error?
[06:20] <SlackRat> pulaski, thats an error?
[06:20] <neutraloss> for which repo?
[06:21] <BluesKaj> decode the flac file to folder, but it depends what format you want to decode to, which you must choose for the output  ,, then you should be able to play it
[06:21] <pulaski> well SlackRat it says its an error on the Adept line that monitors the dl
[06:21] <neutraloss> I've always wondered, is there one key server for all gpg keys?
[06:21] <SlackRat> graphics on the kmenu
[06:21] <neutraloss> which repo is the error on pulaski?
[06:21] <SlackRat> and refers you to that page?
[06:21] <pulaski> a security repository for edgy
[06:21] <pulaski> neutraloss
[06:21] <neutraloss> the offficial one?
[06:22] <pulaski> I think so
[06:22] <neutraloss> what's the url?
[06:22] <pulaski> let me try and recreate it so I can be more specifific
[06:23] <pulaski> Oh neutraloss, I pasted the url further up the list
[06:24] <pulaski> here it is neutraloss
[06:24] <pulaski> http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg
[06:24] <pulaski> ok I'm fetching updates again using adept
[06:26] <pulaski> adept grabs the headers then hangs at 99%
[06:26] <timster> !easyubuntu
[06:26] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:27] <neutraloss> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5
[06:27] <pulaski> ok here is the error neutraloss
[06:27] <SlackRat> timster, that bot is gonna smack you soon
[06:27] <pulaski> yes
[06:27] <timster> =/
[06:27] <pulaski> is that the key I need? neutraloss?
[06:27] <neutraloss> gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[06:27] <pulaski> good
[06:27] <pulaski> I'll try it
[06:27] <neutraloss> well, that's the key for the official security repo
[06:27] <pulaski> thanks
[06:28] <neutraloss> make sure it's right in your sources.list though
[06:28] <timster> I thin automatix froze
[06:28] <timster> But It diddnt finish
[06:28] <timster> Will something bad happen if I just close it?
[06:28] <neutraloss> hard to say timster
[06:29] <timster> Im guessing it will leave all the temporary files
[06:29] <timster> But thats not majorly bad
[06:29] <neutraloss> it's likely that nothing bad will happen
[06:29] <timster> I can't close it though
[06:29] <timster> The button does nothing
[06:29] <timster> just says let it finish the script
[06:30] <timster> but its frozen
[06:30] <pulaski> ok netraloss
[06:30] <Aimee> hey, anyone know how to set root password in kubuntu
[06:30] <timster> How can I force a program to close
[06:30] <SlackRat> Aimee, its in the docs
[06:30] <neutraloss> sudo passwd
[06:30] <neutraloss> but, that's the command.
[06:30] <timster> How can i force a program to close
[06:31] <Aimee> no, neutraloss
[06:31] <SlackRat> three finger salute, kill it from system guard or the command line
[06:31] <timster> Oh it finished
[06:31] <neutraloss> good timster
[06:31] <Aimee> I'm currently done a freshinstall
[06:31] <timster> But my kmenu doesnt have any of the programs in it
[06:31] <Aimee> and don't know how to set a initial password for root
[06:31] <timster> Is there a way to update it
[06:31] <SlackRat> ah, Aimee, you dont
[06:32] <Aimee> I can't login with root account
[06:32] <SlackRat> you use sudo
[06:32] <sampan> !root
[06:32] <clau> how can I uninstall mysql and delete all settings and stuff in order to install it freshly?
[06:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:32] <pulaski> thanks neutraloss
[06:32] <neutraloss> did it work?
[06:32] <timster> :O
[06:32] <pulaski> well not ecactly but the update finnishe by itself
[06:32] <timster> It did a complete upgrade
[06:32] <pulaski> nothing was exported
[06:32] <neutraloss> after a fresh install su doesn't work for me without sudo passwd first
[06:33] <timster> YESS
[06:33] <timster> It plays mp3's
[06:33] <pulaski> I'll check back later neutraloss if I run into this again.
[06:33] <pulaski> I have to split.
[06:33] <pulaski> cya
[06:33] <neutraloss> lates
[06:33] <pulaski> and thanks again
[06:34] <clau> nobody?
[06:34] <timster> Okay, When I use adpet to install some programs, they don't appear in the menu
[06:34] <SlackRat> Aimee, your system wont need root, when you need to use a root command, type sudo <command> and it will ask for your user password
[06:34] <SlackRat> giving you root access for that instance
[06:35] <SlackRat> timster, kappfinder?
[06:35] <timster> Whats that :P
[06:35] <SlackRat> try it on command line and see
[06:35] <timster> !kappfinder
[06:35] <ubotu> kappfinder: non-KDE application finder for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 284 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[06:35] <timster> SlackRat: Nothing happend
[06:35] <SlackRat> oh, ok, sudo apt-get install kappfinder
[06:36] <timster> Ok
[06:36] <SlackRat> it will scan for new apps and put them in the menu
[06:36] <aseigo> clau: i suppose apt-get remove mysql-server, then delete everything mysql related in /etc and /var
[06:36] <SlackRat> or you can use kmenuedit, which is more manual
[06:36] <clau> aseigo: thanks, I'll try that out
 try it on command line and see    <--- that's quite dangerous. :-D
[06:36] <timster> Do I need to run Kappfinder every time? O does it run in the bg?
[06:36] <SlackRat> for kappfinder? pffft
[06:36] <waylandbill> :)
[06:37] <SlackRat> no, sometimes kappfinder wont spot it, or it will automatically show up on menu in a while
[06:37] <timster> It found some
[06:37] <timster> But not enough
[06:37] <SlackRat> or you can add and edit your menu with kmenuedit
[06:38] <timster> Ones like games and frostwire diddnt appear
[06:38] <SlackRat> frostwire should appear under intrnet
[06:38] <SlackRat> automatically
[06:38] <timster> Diddn't
[06:38] <BluesKaj> frostwire=crapporn
[06:38] <timster> Whow they have appeared
[06:38] <timster> all my games
[06:38] <SlackRat> sometimes it shows up after a login.....depends on the app and how often the system updates itself
[06:39] <BluesKaj> aMule
[06:39] <aseigo> SlackRat: it should always appear without a login.
[06:39] <SlackRat> many other apps wont till you put them
[06:39] <argonel> clau: most of the time packages know about their configuration files, so you can use add --purge to your apt-get line to remove them
[06:39] <SlackRat> aseigo, eventually yeah
[06:39] <waylandbill> theres a command to force kde ones that didn't show up after an apt. ksyscoca or something
[06:39] <SlackRat> some take longer than others
[06:39] <aseigo> it just takes time: kdirwatch needs to notice the changes on disk, kded needs to respond and run kbuildsycoca, kicker needs to re-create the kmenu on the signal that kbuildsycoca is done...
[06:40] <SlackRat> better off editing your own menu the way you want
[06:40] <aseigo> so it depends on how busy/responsive the system itself is, what kded is doing and when kicker gets the signal =)
[06:40] <SlackRat> like getting rid of the stupid potato head kids game
[06:40] <aseigo> haha
[06:40] <timster> LYNX :P
[06:40] <aseigo> hey now, my son LOVES that game
[06:40] <SlackRat> well leave it  then
[06:40] <SlackRat> i remove it
[06:40] <biz> hello, i'm using kubuntu on a system that has no way to connect to the internet. is there a way to update this system with a new kubuntu cd or something? any ideas how i can keep it relatively up-to-date using cds/dvds?
[06:40] <SlackRat> people might think i play it otherwise
[06:40] <SlackRat> :-P
[06:41] <waylandbill> :)
[06:41] <SlackRat> biz....not without upgrading to the next release
[06:41] <timster> damn
[06:41] <timster> I ran x kill
[06:41] <biz> SlackRat: that would be no problem i think?
[06:41] <SlackRat> problem with ubuntu is its one cd......internet based packaging
[06:41] <timster> !x kill
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x kill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <SlackRat> no, but if you want a program, without internet that isnt included, what do you do?
[06:42] <waylandbill> there's dvds available from vendors for 3 bucks or so.
[06:42] <computerhermit> hello people
[06:42] <SlackRat> or the dvd, which amazon has for about 10 bucks
[06:42] <SlackRat> or the linux format dvd that came with theri magazine a while back
[06:43] <jthomas> good day, all, from snowy Minnesota!  Can anyone help me to set up Free/Busy publishing in KDE's KOrganizer/Calendar?
[06:43] <waylandbill> bring your computer to the internet. that's whatcha do. :-)
[06:43] <timster> You made me kill my desktop
[06:43] <timster> >_<
[06:43] <valerio> ciao
[06:43] <timster> So I did Ctrl Alt Backspace
[06:43] <biz> ok, thanks
[06:43] <SlackRat> mwahahaha
[06:43] <timster> That restars x right?
[06:43] <jthomas> Is anyone familiar with KDE's PIM?
[06:44] <SlackRat> biz, or you can take your chances that the apps you want dont need other apps and go where you can download them as deb files onto a cd
[06:44] <SlackRat> and install them at home...problem is many apps need dependencies to run
[06:44] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: there is an apt-floppy, does the same kind of thing
[06:45] <bonbonthejon> hi computerhermit
[06:45] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: whats the problem
[06:45] <SlackRat> its why i didint use ubuntu if i didnt have a net connection......bonbon...really, wheres the apt floppy?
[06:45] <SlackRat> you have a link?
[06:45] <computerhermit> hi bonbonthejon
[06:45] <computerhermit> :-)
[06:46] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: i cannot publish; if I create an appointment it says it cannot be saved
[06:46] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: where are you publishing to?
[06:46] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: my URL is a local file (actually a NFS mount because it wasn't working under Samba either)
[06:46] <amsmith42> Why might Wine be ghosted in Adept?
[06:46] <jthomas> URL: /home/jthomas/.FreeBusy/jthomas.vfb
[06:47] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: URL: /home/jthomas/.FreeBusy/jthomas.vfb
[06:47] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: i heard about apt-floppy, never tried it, but i found this http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/
[06:47] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: tried user name as both jthomas and jthomas@mymeail.com
[06:47] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: do you have permissions to the nfs drive
[06:47] <SlackRat> thanks
[06:47] <cox377> does anyone here use avidemux?
[06:47] <jthomas> yes full
[06:48] <jthomas> bonbonthejon yes full permissions
[06:48] <jthomas> cox377 a bit... but i never really understood it...
[06:48] <argonel> biz: do you have another debian or ubuntu box that does have internet?
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: i'ven never used the feature, you might ask in #kde or I think there is a #kontact
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> argonel: biz left
[06:49] <argonel> haha
[06:49] <jthomas> bonbonthejon thank you i'll try #kontact
[06:49] <cox377> jthomas: i know, i've just edited a movie with it and cut out the bits i didnt want an i'm no unable to save it
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: there usually aren't a lot of people in there, you might need to try kde
[06:49] <cox377> jthomas: if u save as an avi it says the damn audio is missing
[06:51] <jthomas> cox377 i think it has to pull the audio out first or something... not sure... do a google search for desktop video avidemux, i recall a video tutorial about how it was done
[06:51] <SlackRat> wow, thats a useful tool that one
[06:53] <posingaspopular> sudo aptitute get firefox?
[06:54] <SlackRat> aptitude get??
[06:54] <posingaspopular> SlackRat: I dont know what im doing
[06:54] <posingaspopular> with aptitude anyway
[06:55] <bonbonthejon> posingaspopular: just "sudo aptitude install firefox"
[06:55] <posingaspopular> bonbonthejon: thanks
[06:55] <eilker> i wanna add an mp3 to my *.avi file, could someone help me pls ?
[06:57] <Mena> some hwo i amke the login manager to defualt and now i must every time
[06:57] <callum_> hey all
[06:57] <Mena> to enter my name
[06:57] <bonbonthejon> hi callum_
[06:57] <callum_> im new to da linux world
[06:57] <Mena> what to change to enable it to remeber my name
[06:57] <bonbonthejon> Mena: its in the system settings, let me find it
[06:57] <waylandbill> callum_: excellent. welcome to it.
[06:57] <Mena> ok
[06:58] <jthomas> Mena go into KDE's System Settings, then into Login Manager, then the Convenience tab
[06:58] <callum_> using Kubuntu at the moment might go to Ubuntu
[06:58] <SlackRat> apt-get install xchm, then find the ubuntu books, here:
[06:58] <Mena> jthomas, ok
[06:58] <SlackRat> http://www.sirdaz.com/lin/
[06:58] <SlackRat> unzip them
[06:58] <SlackRat> and enjoy
[06:58] <bonbonthejon> Mena: yeah, run kcontrol, don't use System Settins
[06:58] <eilker> !avidemux
[06:58] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[06:58] <eilker> !avidemux2
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avidemux2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <waylandbill> callum_: you can install ubuntu-desktop package and you'll have ubuntu (with KDE) available
[06:59] <Mena> bonbonthejon, ok
[06:59] <SlackRat> not a bright bot, is it....
[06:59] <callum_> thnks
[07:00] <callum_> but is tht easy cos without using the Avent
[07:00] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: it just means noone has put information about that particular entry
[07:00] <callum_> cos its command line
[07:00] <Mena> bonbonthejon, then enable auto login
[07:00] <SlackRat> thank god bonbonthejon, i thought i was the only one who went straight to kcontrol
[07:00] <SlackRat> i know what it means, i wasnt under the impression it was a robot reading books, lol
[07:00] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: I like system settings, but some things in kcontrol dont show up
[07:00] <eilker>  i click to record button and xvidcap closes itself, any idea ?
[07:00] <Mena> bonbonthejon, or jthomas,   i did that befor but it didnt work
[07:01] <SlackRat> right, or in different order, like wallpaper under display
[07:01] <bonbonthejon> Mena: you can have it put in your user name only, or also log in
[07:02] <callum_> REGISTER 142242
[07:02] <callum_> lol
[07:02] <Mena> bonbonthejon,ok
[07:02] <jthomas> Mena what exactly are you looking for?  If you want it to pre-select a user, look on the left side of that Convenience tab
[07:02] <|Daisuke_Ido|> is there a way to "clean up" apt's database?  reading the db seems to take longer than actually installing software anymore.
[07:02] <Mena> jthomas, ok
[07:03] <bonbonthejon> |Daisuke_Ido|: if you clean with apt-get it will remove the packages it downloaded, not what you mean
[07:05] <jthomas> Mena figure it out?
[07:05] <root_> .
[07:05] <Mena> jthomas, i will try it now
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> yep
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> it's seale
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> sealed
[07:06] <|Daisuke_Ido|> bonbonthejon: i knew that part
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> Kubuntu is now going to be my primary OS
[07:06] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: yay!
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> I can do all my media stuff from it
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> it supports my ipod right out of the box
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm working on installing WoW
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> i have no reason to reinstall windows
[07:07] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: which gen ipod?
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> ipod video
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> it's nifty cause i always keep it in disk mode
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> so i have lots of media on it that the ipod can't play or even use
[07:08] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: yeah
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> like roughly 49 gigs of anime
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> 40*
[07:08] <waylandbill> !universe | callum_
[07:08] <ubotu> callum_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:09] <callum_> cheers
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> you know
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> the most daunting part about this whole experience was learning how to install stuff
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> once you get that, it's nice and cozy
[07:09] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: all the software is in adept, no need to download from many websites, in most cases
[07:10] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: since you have an ipod, you might want to check out RockBox, it's pretty sweet
[07:10] <waylandbill> dependency hell is much reduced for sure.
[07:10] <waylandbill> bonbonthejon: RockBox do video to ipod?
[07:11] <bonbonthejon> waylandbill: video support is in the works, I think it does very low frame rate, but I have a greyscale ipod so I dont know for sure
[07:12] <LL_Hakaisou> i don't use my ipod for media much anyway
[07:12] <LL_Hakaisou> i used to, but it's more useful as a plug and play removable hard drive
[07:12] <Zoohouse> Quick question: Can I use http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ for my Kubuntu source list or is there another list for Kubuntu?
[07:13] <bonbonthejon> Zoohouse: yes you can use that
[07:13] <Zoohouse> bonbonthejon: thenks
[07:13] <bonbonthejon> Zoohouse: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu all share repos
[07:14] <Zoohouse> bonbonthejon: is it a good idea to include source repos?
[07:14] <bonbonthejon> Zoohouse: unless you are planning on compiling, most users wouldn't need them
[07:14] <Zoohouse> bonbonthejon: thenks
[07:15] <Mena> Jthomas, bonbonthejon, thanks
[07:15] <bonbonthejon> Mena: guess it worked :)
[07:15] <Mena> yes
[07:16] <comosicus> hey alll it's a fuckt up situation on spanish channel's
[07:16] <zdub> hi, everybody!
[07:16] <bonbonthejon> hi zdub
[07:16] <comosicus> nobody whant to help me
[07:16] <LL_Hakaisou> zdub: hello
[07:16] <jthomas> Mena, no problem, just make sure to help someone else along their way to KDE!
[07:16] <SlackRat> whats the problem como?
[07:17] <Mena> jthomas, hope so if i can
[07:17] <Mena> :)
[07:17] <LL_Hakaisou> if you are a pirate say AR!
[07:17] <zdub> how can i remove a not definitive installed package with unmet dependencies?
[07:18] <Kaajavi> hi
[07:18] <SlackRat> que es el probleme?
[07:18] <Kaajavi> hay alguien de argentina que le pueda dar una mano a este nobato?
[07:18] <comosicus> i'v been on spanish channel(madrid they kick me out,sevilla same,almeria same) and all i whant to ask is how do i find a channel used by the locals from huelcar de almeria
[07:18] <ScarFreewill1> since two restarts ago my pc loads apache and not apache2, where can i see where the startup daemons are?
[07:18] <jthomas> Kaajavi que te pasa?  Soy de Minnesota en la USA...
[07:19] <comosicus> they are there just for sex
[07:19] <SlackRat> there may not be a local channel.....just the language channel
[07:19] <Kaajavi> no puedo conectar un modem usb a mi kubuntu
[07:19] <bonbonthejon> !es | comosicus
[07:19] <ubotu> comosicus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:19] <Kaajavi> soy muuuuyyyy novato en esto
[07:19] <Kaajavi> gracias ubotu
[07:19] <comosicus> dan that
[07:20] <comosicus> done that
[07:20] <Kaajavi> bye
[07:20] <Kaajavi> jajaja
[07:20] <SlackRat> check the forum there are local forum groups on ubuntu forums under LoCo.....
[07:20] <Kaajavi> ok, no sabia q era un bot
[07:20] <Kaajavi> jajaja
[07:20] <jthomas> Kaajavi: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[07:21] <SlackRat> but these are for questions about kubuntu, nothing local about that
[07:21] <comosicus> in my town there is a channel with all mirc users just from my town...must be in huelcar de almeria same to
[07:21] <christiane> after installing cthum,
[07:21] <SlackRat> not necessarily.....theres no local user group here, but some places do have them
[07:21] <zdub> guys, how to remove a package with unmet dependencies?
[07:22] <comosicus> something with #huelcar-de-almeria or something like that i'm looking for
[07:22] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:22] <christiane> after installing cthumb and albumshaper I cannot find them in the k-menu to start them - any suggestions?
[07:22] <comosicus> so how do i find users of mirc from huelcar de almeria?
[07:23] <SlackRat> well, you wont find that on freenode so far as i know
[07:23] <Mena> does any one have the icon set micro
[07:23] <SlackRat> maybe check with #mIRC ?
[07:23] <SlackRat> or google for it
[07:23] <restagner> folks, i'm having some trouble with the MULTIVERSE repository. Each time i run Adept Updater, it shows an error for the Multiverse repository.  --- any ideas?
[07:24] <soulrider> restagner: dapper or edgy
[07:24] <Mena> pastebin, your source lsit
[07:24] <soulrider> ?
[07:24] <restagner> dapper
[07:24] <SlackRat> check the forums for local groups
[07:24] <ScarFreewill1> since two restarts ago my pc loads apache and not apache2, where can i see where the startup daemons are?
[07:24] <SlackRat> whats the error??
[07:24] <restagner> screenshot at http://home.socal.rr.com/rstagner/AdeptUpdater_Error.png
[07:24] <soulrider> check http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/13/ubuntu-quickie-enable-dapper-repositories/
[07:24] <zdub> SlackRat: thx :)
[07:24] <bonbonthejon> zdub: try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[07:24] <restagner> soulrider: thanks i'll give it a look
[07:25] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: /etc/rcx.d  where x is the runlevel all symbolically linked to /etc/init.d/ scripts
[07:25] <restagner> soulrider: here's what I'm seeing http://home.socal.rr.com/rstagner/AdeptUpdater_Error.png
[07:25] <soulrider> restagner:maybe the address is wrong
[07:25] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: thx
[07:25] <soulrider> but im not sure, i can never remember the correct ones
[07:25] <zdub> bonbonthejon: thanks to you too :)
[07:26] <SlackRat> might be a problem with that server atm.....youre stuck waiting for it?
[07:26] <soulrider> !seen garen
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen garen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <bonbonthejon> restagner: open konsole, run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the results
[07:28] <comosicus> can i bug you with a problem?
[07:28] <ScarFreewill1> i've found both apaches in /etc/rc4.d
[07:28] <lascar> 'tis what the channel is fo
[07:28] <ScarFreewill1> should i just take one out?
[07:29] <Mena> !#kubuntu
[07:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:29] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: you can remove the one you don't want to start if you like.
[07:29] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: those are only symbolic links
[07:29] <bonbonthejon> comosicus: ask the question
[07:29] <Mena> !ask
[07:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:29] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok, i'll just move them,,, thanks for your help
[07:30] <comosicus> in my town there is a channel wich is used by the locals.......i whant to find same thing .....a chanell used by the locals from huelcar de almeria in spain
[07:30] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: do the S and the K for the one you don't want.
[07:30] <bonbonthejon> !loco
[07:30] <christiane> where  do i find programs like albumshaper after the installation?
[07:30] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[07:30] <bonbonthejon> !loco | comosicus
[07:30] <ubotu> comosicus: please see above
[07:31] <bonbonthejon> thats funny, it knows when to say that
[07:31] <comosicus> not again...................
[07:31] <comosicus> k
[07:31] <Dr_willis> comosicus,  irc servers are 'world wide'    and there are 1000's of irc servers  - finding the channel for your town.. its best to ask the people in the towns. :)
[07:31] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: i just cut it out of the folder
[07:31] <callum_> btw
[07:31] <comosicus> yes but to ask them i have to find them nooo
[07:32] <SlackRat> youre looking for mIRC users? or kubuntu users?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> or Linux users..
[07:32] <comosicus> mirc
[07:32] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: did you mean turn the S into a K for the one i don't want because i don't understand what you said last
[07:32] <comosicus> users
[07:32] <Dr_willis> mIRC is a specific irc client. -
[07:32] <SlackRat> then you have to search for mIRC, this has nothing to do with that here
[07:32] <SlackRat> its a linux channel
[07:32] <Mena> jthomas, Do you know the icon set (Micro)
[07:32] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: no there was an S that starts and a K that kills. You want to remove both the S script and the K script.
[07:33] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok, then i'll go have to find the K because i don't see it...
[07:33] <morvok> anyone running a 3 head setup on there X system?
[07:34] <jthomas> Mena, not really, whats up?
[07:34] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok i got it in /etc/rc6.d
[07:34] <Dr_willis> morvok,  not currently. but i have befor.
[07:34] <Mena> jthomas, its an icon set from a site devianart and i can fet it for kde so i just ask if some one hvae it for kde heheh :)
[07:35] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok now i'm done ty again ;)
[07:35] <jthomas> Mena, sorry i've never really got any Iconset to work unless its preinstalled, never spent time on it
[07:35] <morvok> Dr_willis: I have too. but have you ever seen when the monitor enters a screen the monitor fails. resetting X will not bring it back up. a full reboot must be done.  I have gone through the configs 100 times. I can't find a reason for it.
[07:35] <Mena> jthomas, ok :)
[07:35] <morvok> when the mouse enters the screen!
[07:35] <morvok> sorry.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:36] <Dr_willis> sounds like a driver glitz to me.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> I use nvidia/twinview stuff
[07:36] <morvok> Dr_willis: different monitor, different monitor arrangement. whatever the screen that is "rightOf" Screen0 fails.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> but ONLY if its 'right Of" ?
[07:37] <echosyp> someone help me troubleshoot my sound
[07:37] <echosyp> it doesn't work
[07:37] <echosyp> obviously
[07:38] <morvok> Dr_willis: it appears that way.
[07:39] <comosicus> i'm back
[07:40] <comosicus> helooo
[07:40] <Mena_> hi
[07:40] <comosicus> not again
[07:40] <echosyp> anyone know what i could do to fix it
[07:40] <comosicus> now what i'm looking for is what irc server adres it is used in huelcar de almeria
[07:40] <echosyp> or where to start
[07:41] <Mena_> echosyp, do you sure it doesnt work
[07:41] <echosyp> yes,
[07:41] <echosyp> im smart enough to know its not muted
[07:41] <echosyp> and there are oss modules loaded
[07:41] <echosyp> i was thnking id install alsa and try and use that
[07:41] <Mena_> echosyp, i dont knwo but maybe if yuou opened up th ekmixer nad edit it will work i does this for me befor
[07:42] <Mena_> and*
[07:42] <echosyp> well, im actually using ubuntu not kubuntu
[07:42] <steve__> hi. Does anyone know how to get a camcorder working in kubuntu 6:06?
[07:42] <christiane> how  do I start the program "albumshaper"?
[07:42] <echosyp> im banned from #ubuntu for being stupid
[07:42] <Mena_> hmm ok
[07:42] <echosyp> i gave out a shell cause i didn't know that was a bad idea
[07:42] <echosyp> and the a hole used my nick and got me banned
[07:43] <Mena_> hmm i realy dont know much
[07:43] <echosyp> then told me "ask for help in #ubuntu"
[07:43] <echosyp> ...
[07:44] <comosicus>  <Dr_willis
[07:45] <carl__> hi
[07:45] <bonbonthejon> hi Filthpig
[07:46] <esaym> is there anything better then ksnapshot?
[07:46] <Filthpig> a few days ago gave me(!) 1024 mb ram (Kingston chip)
[07:46] <Filthpig> I had 512 mb already (dual 256)
[07:47] <Filthpig> er
[07:47] <Filthpig> *A FRIEND gave me ram
[07:47] <morvok> I have 3 1gb kinston chips :)
[07:47] <Filthpig> yeah, well
[07:47] <zdub> how to find out the kernel version from a terminal?
[07:47] <Filthpig> I slapped the new chip in there
[07:47] <morvok> uname -a
[07:47] <Filthpig> but now my system uses like 1,3 gb of ram
[07:47] <morvok> err..
[07:47] <waylandbill> I have free ram out of 512. :-)
[07:47] <waylandbill> good enough for me
[07:48] <Mena_> echosyp, you opened the sysetm>>>prefence>>sound right
[07:48] <Filthpig> in percent it seems kubuntu uses just as much ram as when I had 512 mb
[07:48] <waylandbill> Filthpig: caching will do that.
[07:48] <echosyp> yes
[07:48] <scheuri> hi all
[07:48] <bonbonthejon> hi scheuri
[07:48] <Mena_> echosyp, ok
[07:48] <echosyp> it all seems like it would work
[07:48] <zdub> morvok: thx :)
[07:48] <Filthpig> waylandbill: well it shouldn't, now should it?
[07:49] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:49] <bonbonthejon> Filthpig: with more memory, linux can keep more cached
[07:49] <bonbonthejon> hi slow-motion
[07:49] <scheuri> anyone know how to add information (karamba? superkaramba?) on the desktop such as temperature of mainboard and CPU and rpm of fan?
[07:49] <Mena_> echosyp, give me you a descrbtion for the problem agian plz
[07:49] <Filthpig> my machine actually appears to be slower now than before i "upgraded" it
[07:49] <Mena_> echosyp, i will ask for you
[07:49] <echosyp> he unbanned me
[07:49] <echosyp> but thank you
[07:49] <morvok> filthpig: Linux will run faster now becuase its not paging its cached memory to the hard disk.
[07:49] <waylandbill> Filthpig: of course it should.
[07:49] <Mena_> ok
[07:50] <Mena_> no prob :) welcome
[07:50] <scheuri> Filthpig: did you upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[07:50] <Filthpig> scheuri: been running 6.10 since it's release
[07:50] <scheuri> Filthpig: ah I see...well...I must admit I stick with 6.06...had bad experiences with 6.10...now I am on 7.04
[07:51] <Filthpig> hmh
[07:51] <slow-motion> hi bonbonthejon
[07:51] <Filthpig> I was quite pleased with 6.10
[07:51] <[KotG|Tanuva] > ive already installed java jdk and jre, but which package(s) adds the java vm to firefox and konqueror?
[07:51] <scheuri> I can not really say what it exactly was...it felt slowly, bloated....but that is only feeling...I have no hard facts...
[07:51] <Filthpig> hm
[07:52] <Filthpig> I haven't had that problem
[07:52] <Filthpig> only more stuff supported ;)
[07:52] <rob-west> No new emails in any folders matching 'inbox'
[07:52] <rob-west> :)
[07:52] <scheuri> Filthpig: well...that is great...:)...I am happy not everyone felt like I did...I am, however, very happy with 7.04 so far
[07:52] <Mena_> scheri, what new in it
[07:53] <Mena_> scheri, heheh :)
[07:53] <BluesKaj> [KotG|Tanuva] , there are separate java plugins for browsers
[07:53] <scheuri> Mena_: ;)
[07:53] <Filthpig> morvok: I know the system should be faster, but it's really not. Actually CivIV crashed for the first time under Cedega AFTER I upgraded
[07:53] <Mena_> scheri, ok :)
[07:53] <[KotG|Tanuva] > BluesKaj: but where can I get em from?
[07:53] <Filthpig> because of the lack of memory
[07:54] <scheuri> Mena_: well...new kernel (2.6.20), new version of everything, upstarted is now default AFAIK, new network helper
[07:54] <BluesKaj> on the java site , do a browser plugin search
[07:54] <[KotG|Tanuva] > okay
[07:54] <scheuri> Mena_: upstart...not upstarted
[07:54] <Mena_> scheri, ok
[07:54] <BluesKaj> !plugins
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Mena_> scheri, seems nice
[07:54] <Mena_> scheri, hheeh
[07:54] <Filthpig> scheuri: I'm considering switching from kubuntu to sabayon... Otherwise I'll upgrade to 7.04 as soon as it's stable
[07:54] <scheuri> Mena_: I am very confident that it will be a very good realease...
[07:55] <Mena_> scheri, ok
[07:55] <scheuri> Filthpig: sabayon....never heard of it....:)....but...linux is about choice...that is great
[07:55] <Filthpig> I felt kubuntu made giant leaps from 606 to 610, so I can only imagine the 704 ;)
[07:55] <scheuri> I, for one, am very sure that 7.04 will be a very good release...
[07:55] <Filthpig> sabayon is gentoobased
[07:56] <Filthpig> a really immense distro
[07:56] <waylandbill> Filthpig: sabayon is not easy to upgrade.
[07:56] <scheuri> ah, gentoo based...oh well...bad memories for me there...;)
[07:56] <Mena_> sabayon ists name is smothy* heheh as i guess
[07:56] <Filthpig> waylandbill: because..?
[07:56] <waylandbill> Filthpig: it comes with just about everything. blessing and curse.
[07:57] <scheuri> does someone use karamba or superkaramba?
[07:57] <Filthpig> scheuri: actually I installed it today ;)
[07:57] <scheuri> Filthpig: I just did 10 minutes ago...;)
[07:57] <scheuri> Filthpig: how to "activate" it? (sounds stupid I know)
[07:57] <Filthpig> hm
[07:57] <Filthpig> utilities - superkaramba?
[07:57] <waylandbill> Filthpig: lots of packages to compile but the overlays aren't completely compatible with main portage, so you have to do things to upgrade
[07:58] <Filthpig> waylandbill: ah
[07:58] <Mena_> !fiesty
[07:58] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <Filthpig> gentoo for you, eh
[07:58] <Mena_> scheri, you using it right
[07:58] <Mena_> scheri, ask there heheh
[07:58] <scheuri> Mena_: ;)
[07:58] <[KotG|Tanuva] > do the superkaramba shadows actually look right with 3d desktops? under suse+xgl+compiz it looked horrible...
[07:59] <Mena_> scheri, :)
[08:00] <morvok> brb..
[08:03] <provolik> hi
[08:03] <Mena_> Heloo!
[08:04] <Mena_> Hello!*
[08:04] <Mena_> heheh even this word
[08:04] <provolik> Someone of you can help me to find some hypertext editor like ultraedit fo kubuntu?
[08:04] <Erunno> provolik: Quanta ?
[08:04] <jack_> hi guys, iam not sure which version of java i need to install, if a website tells me:you do not have Java Installed. download Java from Sun Java website
[08:05] <provolik> Quanta gives me some problem
[08:05] <Mena_> jack_, what do you mean do you have it
[08:05] <provolik> it crusches random
[08:05] <Mena_> jack_, if you dont do this
[08:05] <Filthpig> hm
[08:06] <jack_> Mena not actually no
[08:06] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(VERSION)-bin
[08:06] <Mena_> jack_, first
[08:06] <Mena_> to check what do you have do this
[08:06] <jack_> Mena which version would i need if i dont have?
[08:06] <Mena_> jack_,  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:07] <Mena_> you must have java1.5 or you can use java1.6
[08:07] <Erunno> provolik: How about NVU ?
[08:07] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(5 or 6)-bin
[08:07] <jack_> Mena_: it says
[08:07] <jack_> There is only 1 program which provides java
[08:07] <jack_> (/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1). Nothing to configure.
[08:07] <provolik> I think I don't know it
[08:07] <LL_Hakaisou> HELP!!!
[08:07] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(5 or 6)-bin  okat di that command
[08:07] <provolik> is it from mozilla?
[08:07] <LL_Hakaisou> I'M STUCK IN 640x480 resolution!
[08:08] <bhsx> hi, i have a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10, just did the suggested updates, and would like to install beryl with ati x300 card... can anyone help me?
[08:08] <Erunno> provolik: Yes, it's the former Mozilla html editor, now a standalone application.
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_,  you can use 6
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_,  its okay
[08:08] <provolik> I need something like ultraedit, do you know it?
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_,  are kubuntu 6.10
[08:08] <bhsx> i have NOT installed ati drivers yet
[08:08] <provolik> I need not only for html but also for css and PHP
[08:08] <Erunno> provolik: Sorry, never used Ultraedit before :/
[08:08] <jack_> Mena_: syntax error near unexpected token `(' it says, i am on 6.10
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin  okat di that command
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_, try again
[08:09] <Erunno> provolik: I'm out of ideas then, sorry.
[08:09] <Mena_> jack_, with that
[08:09] <provolik> uhm
[08:09] <provolik> thanks anyway
[08:09] <Mena_> jack_, woked
[08:09] <jack_> Mena_: it works, cool thanks
[08:09] <bhsx> does anyone have beryl running on ati in K that can help me?
[08:09] <Mena_> :) welcome
[08:10] <jack_> Mena_: do you have any idea how to send text messages from 6.10 (skype or any programme) to a mobile?
[08:10] <Mena_> jack_, after this check sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:10] <Erunno> provolik: You can use the windows version of Ultra edit via wine.
[08:10] <jack_> skype doesnt have this feature in linux, ok, doing then
[08:10] <Mena_> and check if that uses java6 after installed
[08:10] <jack_> Mena_: ok
[08:10] <BishiNightBird> woo I managed to get the ati propriatary driver installed... from ati's website, not from adapt...
[08:11] <Mena_> jack_, i realy dont know
[08:11] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry to bother anyone, but could someone help me address my video issue?
[08:11] <Mena_> !skype
[08:11] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:11] <bhsx> does anyone have beryl running on ati in K that can help me?
[08:11] <jack_> Mena_: i have skype installed, thats not the prob, the prob is the missing feature
[08:11] <LL_Hakaisou> !ati
[08:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:12] <Mena_> jack_, i dont know went to the site form the program and see mybe they are trick or something
[08:12] <Mena_> jack_, go*
[08:12] <provolik> Erunno, I don't have wine
[08:12] <Mena_> from*
[08:12] <Erunno> provolik: It's in the repositories, called, well, wine :o)
[08:12] <bhsx> it's a matter of getting beryl working really... i've had the ati drivers succesfully installed, but then when i install beryl everything goes BOOM... no more 3d...
[08:13] <provolik> I search it
[08:13] <provolik> but I didn't find
[08:13] <Mena_> what do you mean by BOOM
[08:13] <bhsx> so i'm hoping to get some info on how to make (k)ubuntu play nicely with ati and beryl together and haven't had any luck
[08:13] <Erunno> provolik: Have you unlocked the universe repo ?
[08:13] <Mena_> you cant use beryl or problem with card
[08:13] <provolik> yes
[08:13] <jack_> Mena_: how do i click ok to accept the java terms in the shell?
[08:13] <Mena_> press tab
[08:13] <Mena_> then enter
[08:14] <one> plz need help! How could i kill all tasks from onother user via shell/konsole ?
[08:14] <bhsx> i mean that i install the drivers, and have 3d working, then i install beryl and the 3d gets hosed, and beryl crashes
[08:14] <Erunno> provolik: Strange. Did you use adept or apt-get ?
[08:14] <Mena_> bhsx, ohhhh okay ak here
[08:14] <Mena_> !beryl
[08:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:14] <jack_> Mena_: thanks, never had this issue before
[08:14] <one> how could i kill all tasks of a user ?
[08:14] <provolik> adept
[08:14] <Mena_> jack_, no prob
[08:14] <Erunno> !wine | provolik
[08:14] <ubotu> provolik: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:14] <Mena_> go*
[08:15] <jack_> Mena_:
[08:15] <jack_> 1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[08:15] <jack_> *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[08:15] <jack_> Mena_: i choose then 2, right?
[08:15] <Mena_> yes
[08:15] <provolik> Erunno:
[08:15] <provolik> it's very strange
[08:16] <Mena_> jack_, for futur use pastebin for large results or pasts
[08:16] <jart> i'm trying to install a kernel driver and it says a couple headers are missing: linux/irqreturn.h and linux/irqflags.h.  I have build-essential and the kernel headers installed
[08:16] <Mena_> !pastebin | jack_
[08:16] <ubotu> jack_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <Erunno> provolik: try sudo apt-get wine in the console
[08:16] <bhsx> k i'll try that thanks
[08:16] <jart> any ideas what's wrong?
[08:17] <jack_> Mena_: mena, ok, i usually use that, thought its ok for such small things, ok i will
[08:17] <LL_Hakaisou> why doens vmware-player keep trying to install every time i try to use apt-get?
[08:17] <LL_Hakaisou> does*
[08:17] <Mena_> jack_, no no i just telling you to know the pastbin if you dont
[08:17] <Mena_> :)
[08:17] <one>  plz need help! How could i kill all tasks from onother user via shell/konsole ?
[08:18] <jack_> Mena_: thank you
[08:18] <provolik> It dows not work Erunno
[08:18] <provolik> I try to install libwine from adept
[08:18] <provolik> but it says me BREAK(install)
[08:18] <Erunno> provolik: Not libwine, the package is called "wine"
[08:19] <provolik> I don't have it
[08:19] <jack_> Mena_: i still get the error, about not having java, do i need to restart the whole kde? i just restarted konqeror
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_, also you was talking about sites neeed java
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_m what are you suing
[08:19] <Erunno> provolik: Go to http://www.winehq.com and add their Ubuntu repo to your sources list. It should be safe in this case.
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_, firefox
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_, or something else
[08:20] <jack_> Mena_: i use the konqueror
[08:20] <||arifaX> I have an iPod and I have latest gtkpod and podnova. With podnova I download audio and video podcasts to my local drive. how can i sync that podcasts to my ipod eg. with gtkpod. I think I have to configure one of the 2 programs to look in the others dirs - anyone familiar with that??
[08:20] <provolik> I am trying Erunno
[08:20] <jart> is there any reason why linux-headers would be missing some headers?
[08:20] <Mena_> jack_, second plz
[08:20] <jack_> Mena_: what do you mean by second? restart kde?
[08:20] <Mena_> no sec for me
[08:21] <amsmith42> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin
[08:21] <Mena_> jack_, bec they need plugin
[08:21] <Mena_> no just the whole java
[08:21] <jack_> Mena_: do you know which one i should go for?
[08:21] <Mena_> jack_, i am searching
[08:22] <Mena_> jack_, i know for fire fox
[08:22] <jack_> Mena_: thanks
[08:23] <Mena_> jack_, if you dint need th whole jave you an remove it but some programes used it like azures
[08:24] <provolik> Erunno... I cannot open that site T_T
[08:24] <LL_Hakaisou> hi... um... i need help reinstalling my video driver
[08:24] <jack_> i better keep it then mena_
[08:24] <bhsx> is there a kubunty equiv to gksudo?
[08:24] <Mena_> jack_, yes i guess
[08:24] <LL_Hakaisou> it's kdesu
[08:24] <bhsx> ty
[08:25] <reldruh> feisty fawn herd 5 was just released
[08:25] <Erunno> provolik: Hm, seems to be down indeed.
[08:25] <LL_Hakaisou> hi... um... i need help reinstalling my video driver
[08:25] <reldruh> As much as I'd love to update, I don't think it's going to happen at least until the betas come out :-(
[08:25] <Erunno> provolik: Leap of faith: Add this to your sources list: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[08:26] <jack_> mena_ i didnt allow java, thats why it didnt work afterwords thanks
[08:26] <Mena_> jack_, didt it work now
[08:26] <reldruh> has anybody here updated to feisty yet?
[08:26] <Mena_> jack_, ok
[08:26] <Erunno> provolik: Or can you post the contents of your sources.list via pastbin ?
[08:27] <Erunno> provolik: I'd still like to know why wine isn't available for you.
[08:27] <Erunno> provolik: From the universe repo
[08:27] <Mena_> jack_, i dont have much experiences but with help here i thought that its plugin
[08:27] <jack_> Mena_: i also have the problem that delicious bookmarks in konqueror or kopete always ask me for the password, even though i ticked remember and its in the kwallet anyway, yes it works fine now, thanks
[08:28] <house> I am having trouble getting a command to work, I am a n00b, so I think I am typing it wrong,,,,little help please?
[08:28] <Mena_> jack_, maybe you can delet the inf in kwallet and it will be added auto or you can maunaly
[08:28] <Erunno> house: Which command ?
[08:28] <house> 1 sec
[08:28] <Mena_> jack_, bec that happened befor with some one and its worked after that
[08:28] <house> have you ever used flac?
[08:28] <Mena_> jack_, and i also try that but dont remeber when
[08:29] <Erunno> house: Sorry, no.
[08:29] <house> well that isn't important , maybe you could look at the command line I am putting in
[08:30] <reldruh> house: I've used it a little bit
[08:31] <LL_Hakaisou> !troubleshoot
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troubleshoot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <house> ok so what command do i enter to decode an mp3?
[08:31] <LL_Hakaisou> !troubleshooting
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troubleshooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <reldruh> house: decode? You mean just to play it from the command line?
[08:32] <house> reldruh : I want to covert it to mp3
[08:33] <LL_Hakaisou> can someone please help me fix my video output?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> flac = free audio lossless codec... similar to wav except compressed with no data loss...requires conversion utility to mp3
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm stuck in 640x480 resolution
[08:34] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, is kubuntu already installed ?
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> yes
[08:34] <argonel> had that myself a couple of days ago
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> it was working fine, then i did ctrl+alt+backspace and all of a sudden i'm stuck in 640x480
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> my normal resolution is 1280x1024
[08:35] <reldruh> house: do you have to do it from the command line? I think I remember an amarok script that would transcode files on the fly for use with daps
[08:35] <house> ?
[08:36] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: can you change it in the video prefs, or is 640x480 the only mode allowed?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/scrn size/apply
[08:36] <house> the docs say to type flac -d filename
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> it's the only allowed resolution
[08:36] <house> do i need to put dir path?
[08:36] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: does it fix itself on a reboot?
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> i've rebooted 5 times and it hasn't fixed
[08:36] <house> what is daps?
[08:37] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - is there a mention of 640x480 in there?
[08:37] <holzmodem> how can i change the style of the popup dialog , when i push a FN + ... button on my laptop
[08:37] <Mena_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh do thsi and configure the screen
[08:37] <Mena_> this*
[08:37] <reldruh> house: dap = digital audio player. Like an ipod, but it includes all kinds of players
[08:37] <house> I see
[08:38] <house> that is what i am trying to do , make it mp3 for my ipod
[08:38] <CShadowRun> anyone know of any nice bandwith stats program for linux? (Something like netlimiter would be good)
[08:39] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/hardware/monitor configure
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> Kaj, that doesn't work
[08:39] <chx> is there a list of Canonical certified hardware? Yes I googled, searched forums and can't find this list :(
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> i said that already
[08:39] <clau>  how can I import a database from a previous installation (I have only the database files) into a current installation?
[08:39] <argonel> BluesKaj: he already indicated that 640x480 was the only allowed mode
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> anyway, i found this in the xorg.conf file that looks interesting
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> Section "Screen"
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> 	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> 	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> 	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 	DefaultDepth     24
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 	SubSection "Display"
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 		Virtual   640 480
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 		Depth     24
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 		Modes    "640x480@60"
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 	EndSubSection
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> EndSection
[08:40] <house> reldruh : do you know how I can do that with amarok?
[08:40] <BluesKaj> well, I had no options either til i configged my monitor in the hardware mode
[08:40] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: looks identical to what i had as well
[08:40] <Tm_T> !paste | LL_Hakaisou
[08:40] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:40] <reldruh> house: I'm working on it. I know I saw the script somewhere... I'm looking for it
[08:40] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: wish i could tell you why it happened.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:41] <house> thank you that is cool of you
[08:41] <BluesKaj> you don't have your monitor specifically configured so the default i s akways going to be 640x480
[08:41] <Mena_> LL_Hakaisou, yes use this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg andf just amke the resolution you want an remove others
[08:41] <argonel> it really would be nice to know what is rewriting the xorg.conf for no good reason
[08:41] <reldruh> house: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27512
[08:41] <reldruh> try that out, see if it does what you need
[08:42] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: let me know if you still have colour depth problems when you're done with the reconfigure
[08:42] <amsmith42> Automatix for Kubuntu Edgy? Such a thing? Good/bad?
[08:42] <Mena_> sorry this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[08:42] <BluesKaj> he's gotta find his monitor drivers in the hardware drop down list
[08:42] <Tm_T> !automatix | amsmith42
[08:42] <ubotu> amsmith42: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:43] <amsmith42> Thank you
[08:43] <holzmodem> how can i change the theme of the atk dialogs?
[08:43] <amsmith42> !java | amsmith42
[08:43] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then...
[08:43] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, is your monitor driver in the hardware drop down list ?
[08:43] <LL_Hakaisou> i just got an error message that says
[08:44] <Tm_T> amsmith42: /msg ubotu java
[08:44] <argonel> BluesKaj: monitor drivers?
[08:44] <Tm_T> amsmith42: Or whatever and you can talk with that bot without disturbance,
[08:44] <LL_Hakaisou> DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[08:44] <BluesKaj> yes in system settings/monitor&display/hardware
[08:45] <argonel> BluesKaj: i don't think those are really drivers
[08:45] <argonel> definately not in the sense that there are video drivers
[08:45] <albert> Alguien me puede decir como puedo hacer un script con VIM que al ejecutarlo muestre un calendario? (porfavor)
[08:46] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   in the terminal
[08:46] <thomax_> !es
[08:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <|GaiJin|> *sigh* anyone here good at webservers?? dunno what I've done wrong...
[08:47] <albert> Ok, sorry ubotu
[08:47] <argonel> BluesKaj: what?! reconfigure all packages?
[08:47] <BluesKaj> they are video settings for his monitor ... lets not argue semantics ..lets' help him get resolution working
[08:47] <BluesKaj> argonel that unlocks apt or adept of it's locked up
[08:47] <argonel> BluesKaj: neat
[08:48] <LL_Hakaisou> didn't work
[08:48] <house> reldruh : how do I install this?
[08:49] <amsmith42> Thanks, Tm_T.
[08:49] <Tm_T> amsmith42: Np.
[08:49] <LL_Hakaisou> also, i checked the hardware thing
[08:50] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: the hardware thing?
[08:50] <reldruh> download it (it should come as a .tar.gz file), go to amarok, go to Tools > Script Manager, click Install, find the .tar.gz file and then click run in the script manager.
[08:50] <house> reldruh : do I need to extract it to any certain folder?
[08:50] <LL_Hakaisou> it's not listed, but i don't think that matters because it was working fine at 1280x1024 before on the plug n' play setting before
[08:50] <reldruh> house: no, don't extract it
[08:50] <house> oh ok
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> the process is locked....
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> wait...
[08:51] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: yes, i was on plug and play as well
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> would relogging clear that?
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> <.< >.>
[08:52] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: restarting should
[08:53] <house> reldruh ; so do you know how to use the script in amarok?
[08:54] <reldruh> house: no, I never have. There should be a menu entry when you click on a song? And if you click configure in the script manager you should get some options?
[08:54] <reldruh> I'm not really sure
[08:54] <bhsx> what's the kubuntu equiv of gnome-session?
[08:55] <bhsx> kdeinit?
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then, what was that rebuilding command again?
[08:55] <house> thanks
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> nvm...
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> still locked
[08:55] <bhsx> if i was adding this, what would be the kde equiv? :
[08:55] <bhsx> #!/bin/sh
[08:55] <bhsx> Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer &
[08:55] <bhsx> DISPLAY=:1
[08:55] <bhsx> exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
[08:56] <bhsx> sorry for the flood
[08:56] <Mena_> LL_hakaisou, i dont want to confuse you
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> i'll do my best
[08:56] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> yea, that was saved in my terminal
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> tried it
[08:57] <LL_Hakaisou> the process is still locked out
[08:57] <argonel> wtf
[08:57] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: sudo fuser /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[08:57] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: if it returns anything, it'll tell you what has the file open
[08:58] <bhsx> what's the kubuntu equiv of gnome-session to start kde?
[08:58] <LL_Hakaisou> 5329
[08:58] <Heavenquake> bhsx: startkde I think
[08:58] <bhsx> ah that's it
[08:58] <bhsx> thanks
[08:58] <Heavenquake> np
[08:58] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: ok, so: ps ax | grep 5329
[08:59] <Mena_> stdin,
[08:59] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[08:59] <LL_Hakaisou> done, now what?
[08:59] <stdin> Mena_
[08:59] <Mena_> hey you are here
[08:59] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: that should have returned something
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:00] <stdin> just leaking about :)
[09:00] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: it depends on what it returned
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> 1000  6482 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> S+   pts/2      0:00 grep 5329
[09:01] <Mena_> stdin, i wanted to ask  a bout the resolution options and thi sstuff but no prob now :)
[09:01] <stdin> Mena_: I'm not an expert in X either :P
[09:01] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: try ps aux | grep 5329
[09:01] <bhsx> how do I add programs to startup in kubuntu? like system>pref>sessions for kde?
[09:01] <Mena_> stdin, hheheh okay no porb :)
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> oh crap
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> i put in as
[09:02] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, is your monitor listed in system settings hardware
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> for the last time, no
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it is a plug n' play
[09:02] <stdin> !autostart | bhsx
[09:02] <ubotu> bhsx: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it always was plug 'n play
[09:02] <|GaiJin|> anyone got a good guide for installin apache, mysql, php, and making them work in 6.10?? the ones I have tried don't seem to do anything....
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it worked before, on plug 'n play
[09:02] <house> reldruh : do I need to restart? I dont see transcode as an option on my flac files in amarok
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:03] <bhsx> ty
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> i got the correct output now
[09:03] <reldruh> house: try restarting amarok. Make sure you quit it, not just minimize it to the tray
[09:03] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: did it give you a line like the second one you pasted?
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> no
[09:03] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: ok, lets do the fuser line again
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> wait
[09:04] <LL_Hakaisou> i just looked up the process id in the process terminal
[09:04] <LL_Hakaisou> table, sorry
[09:04] <LL_Hakaisou> it registers as frontend
[09:04] <argonel> frontend?
[09:04] <house> reldruh : still not there
[09:05] <LL_Hakaisou> command usr/bin/perl
[09:05] <argonel|kub> (ok, make me actually use my kubuntu box why don't you? :)
[09:06] <house> reldruh : after i install the script, am i supposed to run it?
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:06] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: kill it, maybe it'll stay dead this time
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> i killed frontend, which freed up the config file
[09:06] <reldruh> house: Yes, you have to be running the script :-)
[09:06] <argonel|kub> exvcellent
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm into the config now
[09:07] <argonel|kub> ok, just follow along
[09:07] <house> reldruh: i get this error he script 'transkode' exited with error code: 127
[09:07] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: it should ask you what video modes and colour depths you want
[09:07] <house> i need to put it in a different dir?
[09:09] <reldruh> house: you shouldn't... I don't know what to tell you. I don't know why it's doing that
[09:09] <house> it says this /home/house/.kde/share/apps/amarok/scripts/transkode/transkode: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm there
[09:09] <argonel|kub> htf do i get kde to tell me the colour depth of an image?
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i keep selecting video modes and hitting enter, but it just tells me to select video modes again
[09:10] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: so you check the modes you want, then press tab, then enter?
[09:10] <BluesKaj> house, open adept and type libpng.so.3 in the searchbar , then install it
[09:10] <LL_Hakaisou> oh...
[09:10] <LL_Hakaisou> i need to hit tab?
[09:10] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: yes, the <ok> needs to be highlighted to continue
[09:10] <BluesKaj> tab moves the cursor
[09:11] <LL_Hakaisou> o_0, i'm in a CLI for this
[09:11] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:11] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: sadly, yes. you've fallen off the edge :)
[09:12] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then.
[09:12] <LL_Hakaisou> redid the command and it put up a basic GUI
[09:13] <LL_Hakaisou> selected video modes
[09:13] <CShadowRun> hmm, i have a 250gb sata drive hooked up to my PC, how do i read the drive?
[09:13] <CShadowRun> its ntfs
[09:13] <Mena_> What is the best refreh rate for 1280x1024 any one know
[09:13] <Mena_> What is the best refreh rate for 1280x1024 any one know for monitor 17
[09:14] <BluesKaj> prolly around 85hz
[09:14] <argonel|kub> Mena_: its personal preference.. such that you don't see flickering
[09:14] <Mena_> argonellkub, ok :)
[09:15] <argonel|kub> for CRT, that is.. haven't noticed what refresh rate does with LCD
[09:16] <amsmith42> LCD's don't have a refresh rate.
[09:16] <Mena_> crystal heheh:)
[09:16] <Zchydem> hi, does anyone know how to make dvi work with matrox g400 (pci)?
[09:16] <argonel> true enough, but some software still seems to think you can set one :)
[09:17] <amsmith42> That's true, but it doesn't have an effect either way, I believe.
[09:17] <BluesKaj> LCDs still scan ..refresh rate can be reinterpreted as scan rate
[09:18] <amsmith42> Ah.
[09:18] <amsmith42> They poll each diode in series?
[09:19] <argonel> poll?
[09:19] <amsmith42> For lack of a better term.
[09:19] <house> BkuesKaj: adept couldn't find libpng.so.3
[09:19] <house> nor could synaptic
[09:20] <amsmith42> In order to "scan", wouldn't they be polling each diode to see if it had changed or not?
[09:20] <argonel> amsmith42: as far as i know each transistor is directly addressable
[09:20] <cpk1> if one cant find it then the other cant, they both use the same program house =)
[09:20] <BluesKaj> house, then you need to find a repos that contains that file
[09:20] <amsmith42> That's what I thought, but bkues says that LCD's scan.
[09:20] <Mena_> argonel, how to add another refrash rate on the options
[09:20] <KaoticEvil> for the first time *ever* i now have 3D hardware acceleration!! w00t w00t!!!
[09:21] <argonel> Mena_: for a CRT?
[09:22] <argonel> wonder what happened to LL_Hakaisou
[09:22] <morvok> Anyone help with Xinerama? a screen always fails when there is an action.
[09:22] <morvok> :boggles.
[09:22] <Mena_> argonel, i dont know what CRT mean realy i am
[09:23] <Mena_> argonel, but my monitir is normal not lcd
[09:23] <argonel> Mena_: thats a CRT then (cathode ray tube)
[09:23] <morvok> Mena_ thats a CRT
[09:23] <Mena_> argonel,  ok
[09:23] <Mena_> argonel,  then
[09:23] <Mena_> :)
[09:23] <BluesKaj> house, were you trying to install cedega?
[09:23] <argonel> Mena_: available refresh rates are dependent on what your monitor can do, and what your video card can do
[09:24] <argonel> Mena_: is your xorg.conf manually created, or automatic?
[09:24] <Mena_> argonel, you mean edit it  i edit it beofr for resolution
[09:24] <Mena_> argonel, but i dont creat it manauly if you mean creat it
[09:25] <Mena_> argonel, when i edit i dont have a section for reefresh rate
[09:25] <Mena_> argonel, if you mean that
[09:25] <Mena_> argonel, sorry i am not good in Xserver  things
[09:25] <argonel> Mena_: so you added some resolutions to xorg.conf?
[09:26] <Mena_> argonel, i removed and add just one i need
[09:26] <BluesKaj> xorg.conf is auto ..and it autobacks up when changes are made so if you screwup X you can revert to previous vesion that works ... I know this first hand :)
[09:26] <argonel> Mena_: well, the video preferences panel should allow you to choose a refresh rate
[09:26] <house> BluesKaj : no, I am trying to install a script for amarok that converts flac files to mp3
[09:26] <argonel> BluesKaj: ha, except when it doesn't :p
[09:27] <BluesKaj> house, hang on ...I have something you might be able to use
[09:27] <Mena_> argonel, i just have 60 for 12801024
[09:28] <Mena_> and i also have others resolutions athough i remove them fro the xorg.config
[09:28] <Mena_> from*
[09:30] <BluesKaj> house , see if adept or synaptic has this in the repos ; gnormalize - version 0.52
[09:30] <argonel> Mena_: i'm trying to see if there is a utility that can do this for your, the manual method of adding refresh rates is a bit of a pain
[09:30] <Mena_> argonel, oky
[09:31] <Mena_> okay*
[09:31] <argonel> Mena_: was 1280x1024 not available by default?
[09:31] <Mena_> argonel , yes
[09:32] <argonel> Mena_: yes it was, or "yes, it was not"? (sorry, asked the question badly :)
[09:32] <Mena_> argonel , no it wasnt
[09:32] <argonel> Mena_: was anything higher available?
[09:32] <Mena_> argonel , no lower
[09:33] <Mena_> argonel , 1024768
[09:33] <Mena_> that was befor
[09:33] <argonel> Mena_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[09:34] <Mena_> ok
[09:35] <argonel> Mena_: it may not be possible, depending on your monitor
[09:35] <Mena_> argonel , i think its can bec i can on Xp
[09:40] <birgstef> nabend zusammen
[09:40] <birgstef> ger support?
[09:42] <Apallo> how do i download a package without installing it?
[09:42] <birgstef> holger?
[09:42] <|GaiJin|> why would my system not restart apache2 when using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, but I havd to use the /usr/sbin/apache2 to start it??
[09:43] <|GaiJin|> apt-get --help, and read for it... think it's --fetch-only
[09:44] <Apallo> thanks
[09:44] <birgstef> any german here ?
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> what exactly is Beryl?
[09:47] <Adydas> !beryl
[09:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> ooooooooo......... so its like Aero for X?
[09:47] <Adydas> check out this
[09:48] <Adydas> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI&mode=related&search=
[09:48] <Adydas> best " shows " you what it looks like
[09:48] <stephan22222_> hmm
[09:48] <stephan22222_> i updated from dapper to edgy
[09:48] <Erunno> birgstef: I speak german
[09:48] <stephan22222_> dpkg: xserver-xorg: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:
[09:48] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depends on xserver-xorg (>= 7.0.0).
[09:48] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xgl depends on xserver-xorg; however:
[09:48] <stephan22222_>   Package xserver-xorg is to be removed.
[09:48] <stephan22222_> and everything is now broken
[09:49] <birgstef> Erunno, hi, danke hab glaub ich das Problem selber behoben *g*
[09:49] <Apallo> how do i make a samba share writeable?
[09:49] <Erunno> birgstef: kk :)
[09:50] <KaoticEvil> ok, now i want it
[09:50] <birgstef> irgendwie ist Linux, eine Welt fr sich *g* ... aber wenns einmal luft, lufts :-P
[09:50] <KaoticEvil> think a GeForce FX5200 will run it?
[09:50] <stephan22222_> can i do anything to rescuce my system?
[09:51] <BluesKaj> !de | birgstef
[09:51] <ubotu> birgstef: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:51] <birgstef> ty blues
[09:51] <reldruh> Apallo: When you mount it, the fmask option controls the permissions
[09:52] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_,don't install xgl , until you have your xserver-xorg file error free
[09:52] <BluesKaj> #To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type
[09:52] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:52] <Apallo> fmask?
[09:53] <tamara> lallaa
[09:53] <reldruh> Apallo: yes, fmask. How are you accessing the share?
[09:53] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj: I cannot do anything a the moment, i have done a dist-upgrade, a it is broker
[09:53] <Apallo> mounting it through fstab
[09:53] <Adydas> what fixes that api missmatch error for x again?
[09:53] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj: can i remove xgl in tis state?
[09:54] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, do you have access to synaptic?
[09:54] <Apallo> when i try to access it through remote places it tells me that the folder doesn't exist
[09:54] <reldruh> Apallo: perfect, that's the same way I do it. So your line in fstab looks something like this: //server-name/share-name /mount/point smbfs options=value 0 0
[09:54] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj, adept & aptitude
[09:55] <reldruh> tells you it doesn't exist...
[09:55] <Apallo> up to options, yes...
[09:55] <reldruh> Apallo: that sounds like a problem with samba, not how you're mounting it. If you can't access it over smb:/ then I think you need to look at your smb.conf file
[09:56] <Apallo> it sort of works through fstab...i just can't write to it
[09:56] <Apallo> it's a fat32 patrition, so i shouldnt be having problems with compatibility right?
[09:56] <reldruh> OK, then where I put options=value, replace it with fstab=777 or whatever you'd like your permissions to be
[09:56] <reldruh> Apallo: I'm really not sure, I run a linux-to-linux samba share, ext3
[09:57] <stephan22222_> its my work pc and i need it tomorrow thats realy annoying
[09:57] <stephan22222_> apt-get install -f stops
[09:57] <stephan22222_> any idea??
[09:57] <stephan22222_> please
[09:57] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, open adept and click on adept/safe upgrade
[09:57] <ollie> hi, im having trouble re-compiling amarok with mtp support
[09:57] <ollie> my libmtp appears to be working ok, as i can do an mtp-detect
[09:57] <ollie> make fails with errors
[09:58] <ollie> on what looks like the mtp section of the make
[09:58] <Apallo> where can i find a breakdown of the permissions options?
[09:58] <saka> need some quick help....how do i look at what processes are running? i thought there was a GUI i could look at and choose "kill"
[09:58] <ollie> man chmod
[09:59] <ollie> ps -ef
[09:59] <parkerw207> Is there a channel on here for the ubuntu server addition?
[09:59] <stdin> !permissions
[09:59] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:59] <ollie> saka  ps -ef
[09:59] <stdin> parkerw207: #ubuntu-server maybe
[09:59] <parkerw207> thansk stdin
[09:59] <ollie> saka: then kill -15 <pid>
[09:59] <parkerw207> #ubuntu-server
[09:59] <parkerw207> ooops
[10:00] <Apallo> thanks :)
[10:00] <saka> thx, but there i no way to do it in a GUI type thing?
[10:01] <reldruh> Apallo: no problem. I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but that's the best I've found. My only request is that if you find a better way, would you please let me know?
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> what does this mean??
[10:01] <eMaX> hey
[10:01] <eMaX> short question: does mount -t smbfs require some additional package to be installed?
[10:02] <reldruh> eMaX: mount and smbfs (smbfs isn't installed by default in kubuntu
[10:02] <reldruh> eMaX: if you try, you'll get some weird error message, with a dmesg tail or something
[10:02] <eMaX> tnx oh yes just seen it.
[10:02] <reldruh> eMaX: installing smbfs is the fix for that
[10:02] <eMaX> excellent thank you
[10:03] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj, i could remove some broken packages with adpet
[10:03] <reldruh> eMaX: no problem; it took me a month to figure that one out. Glad I could help you do it faster :-)
[10:03] <ollie> hi, im having trouble re-compiling amarok with mtp support
[10:03] <ollie> my libmtp appears to be working ok, as i can do an mtp-detect
[10:03] <ollie> make fails with errors
[10:03] <ollie> on what looks like the mtp section of the make
[10:03] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, good , do it
[10:04] <BluesKaj> better still , fix them if possible
[10:04] <Apallo> i keep getting a permission denied error
[10:04] <Apallo> erm, access denied that is
[10:05] <Apallo> will changing the mountpoint do anything?
[10:05] <birgstef> !de
[10:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:05] <birgstef> hm
[10:06] <saka> I have a process taking up 100% of my cpu and I;d like to find out, is there an app i can open to see how much certain programs are using?
[10:06] <Mena> aragonel, are you here
[10:06] <rob-west> can cedega see .cue files
[10:07] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, if you can try to install Synaptic , it has better a system for fixing broken pkges
[10:07] <Apallo> !ubotu ksysguard|saka
[10:07] <ubotu> saka: ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB
[10:07] <stdin> saka: you can use top (in a term) or ksysguard
[10:07] <stephan22222_> xgl
[10:07] <stephan22222_> sorry
[10:08] <stephan22222_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:08] <stephan22222_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed.
[10:08] <KaoticEvil> anyone here have Beryl running?
[10:08] <Mena>  hey i will pastebin the config file okay and see plz the monitor section and see if it was rught bec i add the last lines to it can some se it
[10:08] <stdin> stephan22222_: make sure you have ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop installed
[10:09] <saka> stdin: you are my hero
[10:09] <stdin> :)
[10:10] <argonel> does adept suck less in feisty?
[10:10] <Mena> argonel ,
[10:10] <stdin> argonel: it sucks a but less, yeah
[10:11] <Mena> argonel , woul you see my config
[10:11] <argonel> man, that thing pisses me off
[10:11] <argonel> Mena: sure, link?
[10:11] <stdin> argonel: I never use it
[10:11] <Mena> argonel , sec plz
[10:11] <argonel> stdin: i used it because i figured i'd give everything kubuntu a shot
[10:11] <argonel> too bad it just doesn't work
[10:12] <stdin> I use synaptic or apt-get/aptitude
[10:12] <argonel> i just use apt-get and apt-cache
[10:12] <argonel> no fancy tools for me :p
[10:13] <stdin> don't want fancy tools? use wget and dpkg :P
[10:13] <argonel> don't get me wrong, i'd use a fancy tool if one existed that actually worked
[10:13] <stdin> (the Red Hat way)
[10:13] <argonel> stdin: err, did that for a while, wasn't fun :p
[10:13] <Mena> argonel , http://pastebin.com/891747
[10:13] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj, the package (xserver-xorg) is marked BROKEN (upgradable) in adept
[10:13] <argonel> stdin: had a system that couldn't be upgraded, had to use snapshot.debian.net and dpkg -i
[10:13] <Mena> argonel , i diidnt save yet
[10:14] <stephan22222_> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:14] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:14] <stephan22222_> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:14] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:15] <stephan22222_> but how to do the reinstall?
[10:15] <stdin> stephan22222_: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"
[10:17] <Mena_> argonel , and also if there a way to reset every thing to the normal as i just installed kubuntu for the Xorg bec now i am confused and cant concetrat right on what to do
[10:18] <stephan22222_> stdin: next error ist
[10:18] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:18] <stephan22222_>   python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)
[10:18] <joyrider> Hi all, I need a program to burn audio cd's from MP3 files, and it should be able to print out covers with track information - artist - title - duration :)
[10:19] <argonel> Mena_: well, the way to do that would be to replace the original xorg.conf
[10:20] <Mena_> argonel , and if i remove it , it wil lcreat a new one on next login
[10:20] <Mena_> will*
[10:20] <tackat> joyrider: k3b+amarok
[10:20] <argonel> Mena_: it might, i wouldn't guarantee it would work
[10:20] <Mena_> hehehe so
[10:21] <Mena_> argonel , is there a command i cat do if it doesnt
[10:21] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble12.png
[10:21] <Mena_> argonel , i will not have a screen then right
[10:21] <argonel> Mena_: if you don't have a copy of the original, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:21] <stdin> stephan22222_: hmm, that's strange, it shouldn't depend on python2.4-gdbm
[10:21] <joyrider> tackat: can amarok print out joliets?
[10:21] <Mena_> argonel , the orginal is that i last edit it befor
[10:22] <Mena_> or another one
[10:22] <Mena_> like backupe from first time of using
[10:22] <argonel> Mena_: the
[10:22] <stdin> stephan22222_: can you post the output of "apt-cache policy python-gdbm" to http://pastebin.ca and post back the url
[10:23] <argonel> Mena_: the "original" in this case is the file that was in use before you started editing to add the new refresh rates
[10:23] <tackat> joyrider: I thought it could, but I guess I'm wrong
[10:23] <eMaX> short question: when I change the group id of a group in /etc/group from 1001 to 1003, and then use chgrp to change the group of a given file, it still reflects the old gid. why?
[10:23] <joyrider> tackat: it can print out covers - but not the covers i need, it's more like a tracklist i need?
[10:23] <Mena_> argonel , okay good
[10:23] <Mena_> argonel , then after copping
[10:23] <Mena_> argonel , and removing and if it didnt work
[10:24] <Mena_> argonel , what command to make it use the copy i have
[10:24] <jhutchins> eMaX: Why are you doing this?
[10:24] <Mena_> Sorry for stress on you :D
[10:24] <argonel> Mena_: cp the-backup xorg.conf
[10:24] <eMaX> I want to keep group id's in sync within two operating systems
[10:24] <argonel> Mena_: unfortunately the pastebin you provided the link to doesn't appear to work
[10:25] <Mena_> argonel ,hmmmmm no prob
[10:26] <muuhBDXi> COULD SOME ONE READ MY FORTUNE ?
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, any way i decided to forget it for now
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, its working
[10:26] <argonel> Mena_: ok :)
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, :) ok
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, thanks :)
[10:27] <fost00> SALUT QUI EST FRANCAIS ?
[10:27] <stdin> !fr
[10:27] <BluesKaj> !fr
[10:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:27] <fost00> thanks you
[10:28] <jhutchins> eMaX: Try using the numeric gid with chgrp.
[10:30] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:30] <stephan22222_>   python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)
[10:30] <stephan22222_> could someone explain my this?
[10:33] <stephan22222_> is it possible that my sources.list is broken?
[10:33] <stephan22222_> where can i get a working one?
[10:33] <stephan22222_> in which repository ist python2.4-gdbm ?
[10:34] <Mena_> stephan22222, are you edgy
[10:34] <Fogge> i think i have a problem with encoding in Konversation, where do i make settings for utf/iso?
[10:35] <argonel> Fogge: you can set it per channel, right click on the tab (or line in the treelist)
[10:35] <SolidSource> question: Kontact or Thunderbird?
[10:35] <argonel> Fogge: you can also set an encoding per identity
[10:36] <Fogge> but its iso 8859-1 on all channels, and yet my swedish characters arent working
[10:36] <argonel> Fogge: aren't working in what way?
[10:36] <stdin> SolidSource: I like Thunderbird more, but it's GTK so your choice
[10:37] <Fogge> they show up as little squares on my monitor, and they arent recieved properly by other people
[10:37] <SolidSource> stdin: dpm
[10:38] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm GTK have a bug or something?
[10:38] <argonel> Fogge: if there is another konversation user, find out what encoding they're using
[10:38] <argonel> Fogge: each channel often has its own "rules"
[10:38] <stdin> SolidSource: no, but it means you hake to install all the GTK libs, because Kubuntu (KDE) uses Qt
[10:39] <Fogge> But the problem persists in every channel
[10:39] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm, I use other GTK programs, so already have it anyway
[10:39] <argonel> Fogge: sadly, i can't help you as well as others might, i'm Canadian and so don't use extended characters much ;p
[10:40] <Fogge> I figured that would be a problem, and most people in Ubuntu-se dont use Konversation :)
[10:40] <stdin> SolidSource: then you don't have a problem :P Thunderbird is nice
[10:40] <argonel> Fogge: try utf-8
[10:40] <Fogge> Problem persists, already tried.
[10:40] <KaoticEvil> hey... anyone care to try lending me a hand?
[10:40] <argonel> Fogge: join #konversation
[10:41] <stdin> Fogge: you can ask in #kunversation too
[10:41] <KaoticEvil> i installed the binary driver form nvidia, and now when my computer boots, KDM doesnt start
[10:41] <beg1689> hey guys
[10:41] <KaoticEvil> i have to login and then manually start X
[10:41] <beg1689> i need help with my network settings
[10:41] <Cugel> beg: uh oh.
[10:41] <beg1689> im trying to get a static IP (192.168.1.2) but if i use the kde contrl center to set it, and click apply, it goes right back
[10:41] <beg1689> wired network* dot worry
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> is kubuntu less popular that ubuntu ?
[10:42] <beg1689> yes
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> ehy ?
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> why ?
[10:42] <beg1689> but kubuntu is ubuntu
[10:42] <Cugel> Well KDE is popular enough.
[10:42] <Cugel> I think they're about as popular. Any stats on that?
[10:42] <beg1689> yea part of the reason is because kubuntu, xubuntu, etc ARE ubuntu
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> eniuhg ?
[10:42] <SolidSource> stdin: well the real questiion was if there was any benefit of thunderbird over kmail/kontact
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> enough ?
[10:43] <beg1689> i prefer kde
[10:43] <Cugel> I like Thunderbird, but I was used to it on Windows. It's an excellent e-mail client.
[10:43] <stdin> SolidSource: I have found kamil to be a bit buggy, not so much with TBird
[10:43] <beg1689> actually i like e17
[10:43] <stdin> *kmail
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Cugel, t-bird rocks in kubuntu as well
[10:43] <beg1689> but i cant get everything to work right with it
[10:43] <beg1689> maybe when the final version comes out
[10:44] <beg1689> but by that time kde4 will be out, so itll still be a tough choice
[10:44] <cpk1> I like kmail; kontact is a nice little client
[10:44] <Cugel> Blues: agreed. And automatic forwarding (filtering) actually worked, which it didn't on Windows. But please stay on-topic.
[10:44] <jhutchins> beg1689: Final version? Of what?
[10:44] <beg1689> e17
[10:44] <Cugel> Just a question: what on earth is the purpose of the wallet in Kubuntu? It just annoyed the hell out of me every time it opened. I got rid of it in the end.
[10:44] <jhutchins> That's the wonderful thing about OS software, there never is a final version.
[10:45] <bart__> hi there
[10:45] <beg1689> there is a final version
[10:45] <Cugel> Hi bart.
[10:45] <bart__> im a new ubuntu user, and i would like to connect to quakenet :'(
[10:45] <beg1689> not in the since that its the *last* version
[10:45] <beg1689> maybe i mean realease version
[10:45] <Cugel> bart: doesn't work? Strange if your network is okay.
[10:45] <beg1689> i want the final release version
[10:45] <beg1689> its alpha right now
[10:46] <bart__> nah
[10:46] <bart__> i just dont know how to connect to it :P
[10:46] <stephan22222_> he following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:46] <stephan22222_>   python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)
[10:46] <stephan22222_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[10:46] <bart__> im an irc newb
[10:46] <bart__> i can work with mirc
[10:46] <Ertain> Might anyone help me with my Wacom tablet?  Every time I boot up my tablet is recognized as a mouse.  I did change the udev rules for my Wacom tablet to load before my mouse, but it still doesn't work properly.  When I try it in Gimp it doesn't see my tablet.  I have a Graphire 4 tablet.  Any ideas?
[10:46] <Cugel> beg: edit the source and add the word "FINAL, 1.0, created by beg1689!!!' to all popup windows.
[10:46] <stephan22222_> this is crazy
[10:46] <Ertain> !wacom
[10:46] <beg1689> anyway... back to my problem
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> ok, whats goin on here?
[10:46] <Cugel> bart: no problem.
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <beg1689> i want to change my local network connection from dhcp to static
[10:47] <stephan22222_> how is it possible the python2.4-gdbm has unmet dependencies?
[10:47] <Cugel> beg: go to system settings and network, you can change it therre.
[10:47] <beg1689> if i go to the control center, under network settings
[10:47] <beg1689> it doesnt work
[10:47] <bart__> Cugel
[10:47] <bart__> i think i fixed it :'(
[10:47] <bart__> hehe
[10:47] <Cugel> It doesn't? Well you have to be root.
[10:47] <bart__> should have looked myself first
[10:47] <beg1689> i click administrator, open the local netowrk, change ip to 192.168.1.2, click apply, and it just goes back to dhcp
[10:47] <Cugel> Okay, good for you.
[10:47] <bart__> i got it to work
[10:47] <bart__> i dont udnerstand the root thing yet
[10:48] <bart__> ill get to that later
[10:48] <Cugel> beg: that is weird.
[10:48] <beg1689> oh wait
[10:48] <SolidSource> stdin: you use gmail...cause thunderbird not downloading mail
[10:48] <KaoticEvil> i dont have any window decorations in Beryl :(
[10:48] <beg1689> maybe i need to close the connection first?
[10:48] <beg1689> i thought thats something it would do for me
[10:48] <stdin> SolidSource: have you set gmail to enable pop, in the settings? works fine here
[10:48] <beg1689> yea gmail works fine here
[10:49] <beg1689> although i like the webbased way better
[10:49] <beg1689> pop3 grabs all the spam and stuff
[10:49] <stdin> beg1689: not on mine, the spam folder isn't downloaded
[10:49] <beg1689> acutally no i think it just grabbed archived stuff
[10:49] <SolidSource> yeah, followed the instructions on gmails site
[10:49] <beg1689> like if i archived unread stuff it grabbed it
[10:50] <beg1689> ok so im going to try my network again
[10:50] <beg1689> what the hell
[10:51] <beg1689> i click eth0, make sure it says manual, enter the ip and gateway address
[10:51] <beg1689> and click apply
[10:51] <beg1689> then it is back to 192.168.1.141
[10:51] <beg1689> instead of .2
[10:51] <beg1689> i tried disabling it, changing settings and applying, but i get the same result
[10:51] <fost00> !fr
[10:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:52] <stdin> SolidSource: make sure you have the right settings, Server Name: pop.gmail.com, Port: 995, User Name: user@gmail.com, use SSL
[10:52] <SolidSource> stdin: did
[10:52] <stdin> beg1689: can you post /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin?
[10:52] <beg1689> oh maybe NetoworkManager is hogging my net info
[10:53] <Mena_> What is good about using rpm pacages
[10:53] <beg1689> nothing
[10:53] <stdin> ^ *at all
[10:53] <stdin> SolidSource: check again that you turned pop on in gmail settings
[10:54] <SolidSource> stdin: cause it works in kontact
[10:54] <beg1689> stdin: that file says the right info
[10:54] <beg1689> im gon na try resetting the connection again
[10:54] <stdin> beg1689: try "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" in konsole (if eth0 is the right interface)
[10:55] <stdin> SolidSource: strange, it's working fine for me, do you have any funky firewall rules ?
[10:55] <avalon_> Can someone help me get sound in firefox flash? I can't get it to work even after downloading and changing the sound to aoss
[10:55] <vamp898> Hi, i want to use Kubuntu on a friends PC with ISDN, but i did not find any programm for ISDN using :(
[10:56] <SolidSource> stdin: nope...firewall is turned off
[10:56] <vamp898> is any programm preinstalled on Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy to use ISDN? KPPP Maybe
[10:56] <fignew> vamp898: is it installed already?
[10:57] <vamp898> no
[10:57] <BluesKaj> avalon_, make sure you have the flash FF plugin ... type in the FF addressbar 'about:plugins'
[10:57] <vamp898> beceause im not sure that ISDN is working
[10:57] <fignew> ok, try using the alternative install CD
[10:57] <vamp898> you meen Desktop CD
[10:57] <fignew> alternative, it still installs the normal packages
[10:58] <vamp898> but with wich programm i have to use the ISDN?
[10:58] <vamp898> on SuSE i used YaST
[10:58] <avalon_> I have shockwave flash... shouldn't that be adobe?
[10:58] <fignew> KPPP
[10:58] <stdin> avalon_: adobe and shockwave are the same company
[10:59] <vamp898> kk thx
[10:59] <vamp898> thats all i wanted
[10:59] <vamp898> good n8
[10:59] <fignew> :)
[10:59] <avalon_> So the shockwave flash does work. Then how do I get sound?
[10:59] <vamp898> its now 11 pm in germany and i have to go to shool tommorow
[10:59] <vamp898> im writing a test and have to learn :D
[10:59] <fignew> what school?
[10:59] <fignew> gynasium?
[10:59] <fignew> ^spelling?
[10:59] <vamp898> are you german?
[11:00] <vamp898> fignew: do you speak german?
[11:00] <fignew> ein bischen, Ich can Deuch sprechen, aber nicht gut schrieben
[11:00] <beg1689> ok... full system restart fixed it
[11:00] <fignew> Deutsch*
[11:00] <BluesKaj> !de
[11:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:00] <beg1689> now i have a question: where is mplayer?
[11:00] <jhutchins> !mplayer
[11:00] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:01] <vamp898> ich geh auf ne Berufsschule, damit holt man den Realschul abschluss sozusagen nach + lernt alles Kaufmnnische (buchhaltung)i try to say this in german :D its to reget the "Realschulabschluss" and i learn how work is in a firm and learn to work with finances an something else
[11:01] <stdin> !de
[11:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:01] <rob-west> how do i install glib2.0
[11:01] <vamp898> *englisch not german
[11:01] <Fogge> Thanks for your efforts tho, argonel :)
[11:01] <vamp898> apt-get install glib
[11:01] <BluesKaj> beg1689, for the FF mplayer plugin : http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[11:02] <fignew> lol @ !de
[11:02] <vamp898> fignew: did you understand?
[11:02] <fignew> yep :)
[11:02] <vamp898> fine^^
[11:02] <beg1689> i have all the repos checked but i dont see mplayer
[11:02] <vamp898> n8
[11:02] <vamp898> Gute nacht :D
[11:02] <fignew> see ya
[11:02] <rob-west> wont work
[11:03] <Mena_> !ubotu
[11:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:03] <Mena_> !hi
[11:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:03] <Mena_> ~ping
[11:03] <jhutchins> beg1689: Maybe you need to update the packaeg lists?  I'm not that familiar with the GUI, I use apt.
[11:03] <Mena_> !ping
[11:03] <ubotu> pong
[11:03] <beg1689> hmm
[11:03] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <beg1689> only one of them says multiverse after it, thats probly the problem
[11:04] <jhutchins> try just "sudo apt-get install mplayer" in the konsole.
[11:04] <megamaced> Hi, does anyone know how to reset the configuration of the system tray so that the icons in it are sorted in two rows?
[11:04] <jhutchins> !easysource
[11:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:05] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm don't know why thunderbird isn't working settings are all correct
[11:05] <BluesKaj> megamaced, right click on the desktop ...icons
[11:05] <stephan22222_> wow
[11:05] <stephan22222_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/58424
[11:06] <stephan22222_> seams to be my problem
[11:06] <stdin> SolidSource: I don't know either, those are the settings I use, and it works here
[11:06] <beg1689> i got it, just added multiverse to all the repos
[11:07] <megamaced> BluesKaj; thanks, but I meant the icons in the system tray!
[11:08] <BluesKaj> then configurepanel
[11:08] <megamaced> They are supposed to appear in two rows but they are only appearing in one and taking up too much space
[11:09] <NightBird> how can I check to see if my microphone is working right?
[11:09] <NightBird> what program should I use?
[11:09] <cpk1> NightBird: krec?
[11:10] <NightBird> there are so many random programs available for linux...
[11:10] <NightBird> it's great
[11:10] <kyle__> Hiya quick question.  Why would apt-get (and adept) be looking for sources I'm certain are NOT on the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[11:11] <SolidSource> stdin: oh I see why...thunderbird only wanted new messages and there were none in my box
[11:11] <stdin> SolidSource: ahh :P
[11:12] <stdin> kyle__: huh?
[11:12] <kyle__> Is there something about the sources.list I don't understand?  I've removed most everyhting from it and whenever I do an update the list is HUGE and it gets hung on one particular connection.
[11:12] <Mena_> !ar
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <stdin> kyle__: check if there is anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:13] <kyle__> stdin:  there sure is!  that's added to the download list?
[11:14] <stdin> kyle__: any file in there ending in .list is treated as another sources.list
[11:15] <kyle__> Thanks so much!  That solves most of my problem right there.  Appreciate your help.
[11:15] <stdin> no problem :)
[11:15] <Mena_> i want to edit the channel list
[11:16] <jhutchins> kyle__: You realize that there are some 20,000+ pacakages availble for kubuntu?
[11:16] <jhutchins> Mena_: channel list?
[11:17] <Mena_> yes which i choose for it the channel to coencet
[11:17] <Mena_> conect*
[11:17] <Mena_> from*
[11:18] <Mena_> maybe i will open the config file if i can edit it
[11:18] <kyle__> jhutchins: Yea.  Easyubuntu had put an additional list in sources.list.d that I wasn't aware of, which was my problem right htere.
[11:18] <stdin> Mena_: you mean what channels you auto join?
[11:18] <stephan22222_> please, can some one look at http://rafb.net/p/MH711595.html
[11:18] <stdin> Mena_: in konversation?
[11:18] <Mena_> no the channels are saved bec i also i want to save them
[11:18] <stephan22222_> and tell me where my dependey hell is comming from,? (http://rafb.net/p/MH711595.html=
[11:19] <stephan22222_> my system is totaly broken
[11:19] <kyle__> Thanks for your help, have a nice evening.
[11:19] <Mena_> stephan, why sying that
[11:19] <Mena_> saying*
[11:19] <Mena_> dont worry you are on the support channel
[11:19] <Mena_> :)
[11:19] <stephan22222_> some important repositzory is missing and i can't find out which
[11:20] <stephan22222_> its my work pc and i need it working tomorrow
[11:20] <stephan22222_> i updated form 6.06 to 6.10
[11:21] <Mena_> hey go here and tell us if you can do any thing http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[11:21] <Mena_> its a generator
[11:21] <Mena_> lets go back to my point is there a way i can save the list of channles
[11:22] <Mena_> :-(
[11:22] <stdin> Mena_: in konversation, there is a "Save list" button
[11:23] <Mena_> stdin realy
[11:23] <Mena_> will see
[11:23] <stdin> Mena_: F5, you'll see it at the bottom
[11:23] <Mena_> ok
[11:24] <stephan22222_> i generate a new souces.list
[11:25] <stephan22222_> it downloads new packages
[11:26] <Mena_> stephan22222, so its working
[11:26] <Mena_> stephan22222, but be sure that you choose what you want
[11:26] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i think i downloaded these packes before ...
[11:27] <stephan22222_> again broken
[11:27] <stephan22222_> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[11:27] <stephan22222_>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[11:27] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:27] <Mena_> stephan22222, So you take the list you had on the page and then paste it on the source list instead of it
[11:28] <Mena_> stephan22222, i dont know maybe its bbroken do this sudo apt-get check
[11:28] <stephan22222_> Mena_: yes
[11:28] <Mena_> stephan22222, ok
[11:28] <Mena_> stephan22222, make check
[11:29] <Mena_> stephan22222, sudo apt-get check
[11:29] <stephan22222_> Mena_: the ceck output is veeery ling
[11:29] <Mena_> is there a something with -f install
[11:29] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i pasted it here
[11:29] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/xXUj8E39.htm
[11:29] <Mena_> stephan22222, ok
[11:29] <stephan22222_> to not spam th channel
[11:29] <Mena_> ok good
[11:30] <Mena_> Error 404 - Not Found
[11:30] <Mena_> plz check again
[11:30] <Mena_> and also paste your source list
[11:32] <stephan22222_> the soureces
[11:32] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/SauBrX10.html
[11:32] <Mena_> stephan22222,ok
[11:33] <stephan22222_> Mena_: any idea?
[11:34] <Mena_> stephan22222, the source list looks good
[11:34] <Mena_> stephan22222, do this
[11:34] <Mena_> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[11:34] <Mena_> gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:34] <Mena_> in terminal
[11:35] <stephan22222_> Mena_: shouldn't it work without the KEYs?
[11:36] <Mena_> stdin, its ays if there errors
[11:36] <Mena_> soorry not you
[11:36] <Mena_> stephan22222, if its sying erros and also its good not bad
[11:36] <Mena_>  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:36] <Mena_> DO THSI COMMAND
[11:37] <Mena_> this*
[11:38] <Mena_> stephan22222, what happened
[11:38] <stephan22222_> output ist very long again, Mena_
[11:38] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/fBIeb896.html
[11:38] <Mena_> ok
[11:38] <stephan22222_> Preconfiguring packages ...
[11:38] <stephan22222_> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[11:38] <stephan22222_>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[11:38] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:39] <Mena_> stephan22222, you just upgraded to to 6.10 right
[11:39] <Mena_> stephan22222, with out any update for it
[11:40] <Mena_> stephan22222, wright
[11:40] <Mena_> right*
[11:40] <stephan22222_> Mena_: the security updated
[11:40] <stephan22222_> and so on
[11:41] <Mena_> stephan22222, okay plz check again to kae usre
[11:41] <Mena_> sure*
[11:41] <stephan22222_> Mena_: what should i check?
[11:41] <SolidSource> stdin: can't find the setting in thunderbird to allow it to download older messages, you know where?
[11:42] <Mena_> the update with terminal do sudo apt-get update then after that sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:42] <stdin> SolidSource: I'll look
[11:42] <Mena_> stephan22222, and lit it makes upgrade if nedeed
[11:42] <Mena_> stephan22222, then the problem with xserever wil see that
[11:42] <Mena_> stephan22222,ok?
[11:43] <stdin> SolidSource: it's in the gmail settings, not TBird
[11:44] <stdin> SolidSource: choose "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)"
[11:44] <Mena_> stephan22222, is it upgrading
[11:45] <SolidSource> stdin: ah, thought I did that....and now to figure out that how to get Tbird to group messages like gmail, probably can't though
[11:46] <stdin> SolidSource: no, it can do threads, but not quite like gmail, tho you can set mail rules to do something similar
[11:46] <Mena_> stephan22222_, what happned
[11:47] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah, still gonna look to see if there is extension..out of hope
[11:47] <stdin> maybe
[11:48] <stephan22222_> Mena_: upgrade says
[11:48] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:48] <stephan22222_>   amarok: Depends: libgl1-mesaor
[11:48] <stephan22222_>                    libgl1
[11:48] <stephan22222_>   beryl-core: Depends: libgl1-mesaor
[11:48] <stephan22222_>                        libgl1-mesa-gl
[11:48] <stephan22222_> and so on ....
[11:48] <Mena_> stephan22222_, ok
[11:49] <SolidSource> stdin: you can do threads in Tbird
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, after it finised
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, do thsi again
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, sudo apt-get check
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, if nothing wrong
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, do this also sudo apt-get clean
[11:50] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, that's what I said
[11:51] <Mena_> to clean up the packages sources wich are on you hard and you dont nedd them
[11:51] <stephan22222_> check says same as before
[11:51] <SolidSource> stdin: oh misread, thought it said "can't" for some reason
[11:51] <stephan22222_> Mena_: should i try to clean now?
[11:51] <Mena_> stephan22222_, hmmm
[11:52] <Dragonhorse> Do anybody know when xorg 7.2 will be in edgy?
[11:52] <Mena_> stephan22222_, not very sure for now
[11:52] <stdin> Dragonhorse: ask in #ubuntu-devel
[11:52] <Dragonhorse> stdin ok, thanks
[11:53] <Mena_> stephan22222_, hmmm what is the problem with this xorg
[11:53] <stephan22222_> Mena_: there was noe problem before updating
[11:54] <Mena_> stephan22222_, hm
[11:54] <Mena_> take the list i will send you now
[11:54] <Mena_> okay
[11:55] <Mena_> then make autoremove to remove un needed packages
[11:55] <Mena_> stephan22222_, take the list and then delet the one you had and copy past it instead
[11:56] <Mena_> i mean the lines on the one you have
[11:57] <stephan22222_> Mena_: autoremove?
[11:57] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , not yet for now
[11:57] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , take the list i gave you
[11:58] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , sec plz
[11:58] <stephan22222_> yes
[11:58] <coreymon77> hi guys
[11:58] <coreymon77> urgent
[11:58] <coreymon77> ive got an emergency
[11:59] <coreymon77> i try to boot kubuntu and it gives me something about my filesystem not being clean and then recovering journal and stuff like that
[11:59] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , http://rafb.net/p/pZJAFk64.html
[11:59] <coreymon77> and then just stays like that
[11:59] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , copy all
[11:59] <coreymon77> how do i fix my system
[11:59] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , and past it in you source lit but first remove all you have
[12:00] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , ok
[12:00] <Mena_> this have every thing you need
[12:00] <stephan22222_> ok, i remove my, an take only the new generate one?
[12:00] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , yes copy the one i give you
[12:01] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , and paste
[12:01] <Mena_> into the source.list
[12:01] <coreymon77> can someone help me
[12:01] <coreymon77> ?
[12:01] <Mena_> !fsck
[12:01] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:02] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:02] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , then save it and then make sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:03] <coreymon77> my computer automatically ran fsck
[12:03] <Mena_> that will remove all app installed and you need then
[12:03] <coreymon77> but it stayed that way all day
[12:04] <Mena_> coreymon77, see thsis might help http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup
[12:04] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , what is happening now
[12:04] <stephan22222_> Mena_: just running update
[12:04] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:05] <stephan22222_> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:05] <stephan22222_> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:05] <stephan22222_> autoclean
[12:05] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , sec plz we must first remove app you dont need ok
[12:05] <coreymon77> what i need is to rescue a corrupted filesystem
[12:06] <coreymon77> how do i do that
[12:06] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , its telling you autoclean
[12:06] <Mena_> if do it
[12:06] <rob-west> can i set kontact to auto check my email
[12:06] <rob-west> or no
[12:06] <stephan22222_> Mena_: to late a ran autoclean
[12:06] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/iqz3Ma59.html
[12:07] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay good
[12:07] <yaccin> !herd5
[12:07] <ubotu> herd5 is coming out very soon - change this note when it does ;)
[12:08] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , then try  sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:08] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , the command is right
[12:08] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , must work
[12:08] <stephan22222_> stephan@hongkong:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:08] <stephan22222_> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:08] <rob-west> can i set kmail to auto check my email
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay you make update then upgrade
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , now what you wont install
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , to *
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , with the list every thing must go fine
[12:10] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , bec i use this list
[12:10] <stephan22222_> Mena_: autoremove does not work.
[12:10] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:10] <coreymon77> how do i repair my file system?
[12:10] <stephan22222_>  E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:10] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , ohh carp ... okay okay
[12:11] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , you have the list befor
[12:11] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , right
[12:11] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , http://rafb.net/p/SauBrX10.html
[12:12] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , we will do a thing one more time
[12:12] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , use this list for now just now and make then make autoremove
[12:12] <jarn> Is there a way to reverse the stereo channels?
[12:12] <Dragonhorse> Why GTK-based programs sitting in the tray get gray background for icon in tray even if they have transparent background?
[12:13] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , to remoe packages install with thi slist hope so
[12:13] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , ok
[12:13] <coreymon77> can i have some help here, this is quite an emergency here
[12:13] <Mena_> coreymon77, ask stdin
[12:13] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i copy the lsit to my sytem, do apt-get udpate, apt-get autoremove
[12:13] <Mena_> coreymon77, mayebe he know
[12:13] <stephan22222_> reigt?
[12:13] <coreymon77> stdin: are you there?