| nixternal | LaserJock: thanks for asking for help in the Edubuntu meeting :) | 12:17 |
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| LaserJock | np | 12:17 |
| mpt_ | h4writer, you are Hannes? | 12:19 |
| nixternal | hey, we also need to look at implementing the Microsoft trademark rules and possibly the Mac trademark rules into our licensing stuff (&legalnotice;) | 12:24 |
| nixternal | according to MS's website we are breaking the law by not labeling MS with the proper trademarks | 12:24 |
| nixternal | and instead of <tradmark>Microsoft</trademark> and so on, they explicitly state we can just include it in the licensing file | 12:24 |
| mpt_ | nixternal, if you're not going to fix that yourself right now :-), I suggest reporting a bug | 12:27 |
| h4writer | mpt_, yep I'm Hannes | 12:28 |
| mpt_ | h4writer, welcome! | 12:28 |
| nixternal | mpt_: I am afraid to report that as a bug :) | 12:28 |
| h4writer | thanks | 12:28 |
| mpt_ | It's great to have more people helping with the help | 12:29 |
| nixternal | it is great to have people with helping with help to help others :) | 12:29 |
| nixternal | my buddy is a copyright and trademark infringement attorney and I asked him about it, he said either fix it now or just wait for Microsoft to send us a "fix it or else" letter | 12:30 |
| nixternal | heh, like everything else I do, I will wait for the letter | 12:30 |
| mgalvin | hi everyone | 12:31 |
| mgalvin | hey, anyone know whats been going on with the UWN | 12:31 |
| nixternal | howdy Mr. Galvin | 12:31 |
| mgalvin | hey nixternal | 12:31 |
| nixternal | mgalvin: that is the Marketing team there, what is happening I really don't know | 12:31 |
| nixternal | I heard that Cody has been in the hospital | 12:31 |
| mgalvin | yea, its been quite over there, though someone here might know | 12:32 |
| nixternal | heh, I see you already mailed the list | 12:32 |
| mgalvin | oh, that sucks, hope he is ok | 12:32 |
| mgalvin | yea | 12:32 |
| nixternal | I don't know if it was major or not, I think Cory knows better though | 12:32 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3884 kubuntu/index.xml: updating doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu index | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: so do you have an edubuntu-docs package that you're comfortable with? | 01:05 |
| nixternal | close, all but the the gnome-menus-C.ent issue | 01:05 |
| nixternal | <!ENTITY % gnome-menus-C SYSTEM "../../../ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent"> | 01:06 |
| nixternal | that won't work with Edubuntu if we place them in gnome/help/edubuntu | 01:06 |
| nixternal | the easy package fix is 1) create gnome/help/ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent or 2) change the package documents to point to ../../../ubuntu-docs/ligs/gnome-menus-C.ent | 01:07 |
| nixternal | s/ligs/libs/ | 01:08 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: are you using Ubuntu Feisty right now? | 01:09 |
| nixternal | if so, double check ../../../ubuntu/libs just to make sure I am 100% correct | 01:09 |
| nixternal | ls: /usr/share/gnome/help/ubuntu: No such file or directory | 01:11 |
| nixternal | so the current edubuntu package will break if using gnome-menus-C.ent | 01:11 |
| nixternal | alright, back to class | 01:16 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | ls: /usr/share/gnome/help/ubuntu: No such file or director | 02:02 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: still around? | 02:11 |
| bdmurray | I was checking out the ubuntu-serverguide package and noticed the contributors page link is broekn / didn't get converted cleanly | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | ohh | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | bdmurray: did you file a bug? | 02:15 |
| bdmurray | LaserJock: I probably should. I was trying to take a break from bug work though. ;) | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | if you could just file it it'd be great | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I think I'll be on a big doc package fixing mission tonight | 02:17 |
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| bdmurray | LaserJock: done | 02:20 |
| bdmurray | Will there be an ubuntu-serverguide package in Malone for bug reports? | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | it should be there already | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | I guess you should file bug reports on that for packaging issues and stuff like that | 02:22 |
| bdmurray | It doesn't seem to be there | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | oh right | 02:23 |
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| LaserJock | ubuntu-serverguide is just a .deb build from ubuntu-docs source package | 02:24 |
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| LaserJock | LP uses the source package not the .deb | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | bbl | 02:25 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: brian * r3885 common/preface.pot: Spacing issues | 02:26 |
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| bdmurray | that's neat | 02:28 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #88814 in ubuntu-doc "Server Guide link to contributor's page is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88814 | 02:30 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: I am back | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 05:28 |
| nixternal | is it? | 05:28 |
| nixternal | ;p | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | I was just building whatever you had | 05:28 |
| nixternal | well just so you know, the gnome-menus-C isn't going to work with what I had | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | right, but everything else? | 05:29 |
| nixternal | everything else will be fine | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | hmm, it's still building | 05:29 |
| nixternal | hey, can you create a symlink for gnome/help/ubuntu-docs/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent to gnome/help/ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent? | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | I was actually thinking of installing it into an ubuntu/ | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | there is no ubuntu/ currently | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | ah, you are calling the deb rule | 05:32 |
| LaserJock | deb: clean style about rn esa hb | 05:32 |
| LaserJock | that rule should be empty | 05:32 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I did empty it | 05:33 |
| nixternal | check the svn | 05:33 |
| nixternal | # deb: used for creating package for Edubuntu documentation | 05:33 |
| nixternal | deb: | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | I'm just looking at your package | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | k, cool | 05:33 |
| nixternal | maybe I didn't put a more recent one up there where I nixed that portion | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | now lets see about this ent issue | 05:34 |
| nixternal | heck, that entire part can be removed from debian/rules as well | 05:34 |
| nixternal | we don't even need the Makefile for the package | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | well, we might want to make minimal changes in case we want to do soemthing elese ;-) | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | well, make is called | 05:34 |
| nixternal | right | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | so it's nice to have a fake rule | 05:34 |
| nixternal | ok | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | ok, now the ubuntu docs find the ent where? | 05:36 |
| nixternal | hrmm, good question | 05:36 |
| nixternal | ../../libs | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | /usr/share/gnome/ubuntu I think | 05:37 |
| nixternal | no such dir | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | oh /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/ | 05:37 |
| nixternal | that is one place | 05:37 |
| nixternal | but those are the general libs, not the gnome-menu-C side | 05:37 |
| nixternal | gnome-menu-C is in svn as trunk/ubuntu/libs | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | ok, well here's one thing we could do | 05:39 |
| LaserJock | we could put it in edubuntu/libs/ | 05:40 |
| LaserJock | and change the xml files | 05:40 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 05:43 |
| nixternal | I thought about that as well | 05:43 |
| LaserJock | you know | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | we really might want our own copy anyway | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | becuase of all the Edu apps | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | what do you think? | 05:45 |
| nixternal | +1 | 05:46 |
| nixternal | haha, makes it a hell of a lot easier | 05:46 |
| nixternal | I am on it batman | 05:46 |
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| nixternal | OK, rebuilding right now | 05:53 |
| nixternal | man, dreamhost is the garbage tonight | 05:55 |
| nixternal | how long does it take to rm -rf blah/ which is empty? | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | umm, not very long | 05:59 |
| nixternal | heh, so one would think. My Dreamhost server is a tank tonight | 06:00 |
| nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/docs/edubuntu/feisty | 06:00 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3886 edubuntu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): cp gnome-menus-C.ent into edubuntu/libs in order to bypass a packaging issue, fixed handbook xml headers to match correct libs directory | 06:02 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: hmm, that's looking good | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | hmm, but I get a lot of errors when I install it and load yelp | 06:16 |
| nixternal | really, what errors? | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | /usr/share/gnome/help/edubuntu/handbook/C/bookinfo.xml:72: parser error : Entity 'educopy' not defined | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | &educopy; | 06:20 |
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| LaserJock | ah heck | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | it's from common/ not being in /usr/share/gnome/help/ | 06:21 |
| nixternal | argh | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | stupid ents | 06:21 |
| nixternal | ln -s? | 06:22 |
| nixternal | heh | 06:22 |
| nixternal | that is one great thing about KDE and Kubuntu, our docs go to the same place, we follow suit/standard | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | well, it really would be fine if we didn't install to edubuntu/ | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | we *could* install to edubuntu-$$doc | 06:23 |
| nixternal | haha, so that means...reverting the last changes, which is nothing major | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | but we are breaking everything right now | 06:24 |
| nixternal | wow, so you would have edubuntu-about-edubuntu, edubuntu-releasenotes, edubuntu-handbook, edubuntu-SchoolAdvocacy | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | not about edubuntu | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | but the others | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | I'm really only concerend about release notes and handbook | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | they have such generic names | 06:24 |
| nixternal | ya | 06:24 |
| nixternal | cp edubuntu/$$doc/C/*.xml debian/edubuntu-docs/usr/share/gnome/help/edubuntu/$$doc/C/ | 06:25 |
| nixternal | just replace the edubuntu/$$doc with edubuntu-$$doc | 06:26 |
| nixternal | that is easy enough, and revert my changes | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | I'd rather not do ESA and About Edubuntu that way though | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | can we just split it into 2 cp lines | 06:26 |
| nixternal | well, I would break them out | 06:26 |
| nixternal | exactly | 06:26 |
| nixternal | let me do that really quick | 06:27 |
| LaserJock | I think that's the way to go | 06:27 |
| nixternal | actually, I don't have to revert my changes to the gnome-menus-C | 06:28 |
| nixternal | it is just changing that out | 06:28 |
| nixternal | argh | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | now what? | 06:37 |
| nixternal | typo :) | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | gotta "get'r done" | 06:40 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:40 |
| nixternal | she is done this time, getting ready to upload to the server again | 06:40 |
| nixternal | argh this server is stupid | 06:41 |
| nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/docs/edubuntu/feisty | 06:43 |
| nixternal | that should be the one LaserJock :) I will brb, takin' the puppy out | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | are the omf files updated? | 06:47 |
| nixternal | fdjklafjdlasjfdsja | 06:47 |
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| LaserJock | libs are still installed to /usr/share/gnome/help/edubuntu/ | 06:48 |
| nixternal | ya | 06:51 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 06:52 |
| nixternal | that brings up a new can of worms | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | if they are installed to /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/ that should work, right? | 06:53 |
| nixternal | there is already gnome/help/libs/ | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | don't install ones that are already installed by ubuntu-docs | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | but the edubuntu ones should be ok | 06:53 |
| nixternal | roger | 06:53 |
| nixternal | we can't | 06:56 |
| nixternal | differen't css files | 06:56 |
| nixternal | the silly ubuntu-docs dir is killing us. if it was just ubuntu, then it wouldn't be a problem | 06:57 |
| nixternal | rather, if the package was installed the way the svn was setup | 06:57 |
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| LaserJock | wait a sec | 07:13 |
| LaserJock | the ubuntu package works | 07:13 |
| LaserJock | ours should be the same | 07:14 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: still alive? | 07:33 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: pingy pingy | 08:11 |
| mdke_ | LaserJock: the server installation includes an html viewer | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but there's not necessarily a link between the two | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | you know what I mean? | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | for the packaging guide I think I might add in a .desktop file or something | 08:17 |
| mdke_ | bdmurray: pot files are generated automatically, it's probably a bad idea to edit them directly | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | for the server guide maybe a script that runs the html viewer with the right URL would help? | 08:17 |
| mdke_ | LaserJock: a script that runs it when? | 08:17 |
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| LaserJock | mdke_: just make like /usr/bin/serverguide | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | so you could just run serverguide and it'd load it up | 08:20 |
| mdke_ | oh I see | 08:20 |
| mdke_ | nice idea, did you discuss it with fabbione? | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | no, I poked him when he first came in but he said he needed to wake up and think about it ;-) | 08:21 |
| mdke_ | ask him about that | 08:21 |
| mdke_ | LaserJock: see mpt's patch? looks like he wants to move about-ubuntu into "new to ubuntu 7.04" | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm, interesting | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | mdke_: nixternal and I are having a heck of a time with edubuntu-docs | 08:23 |
| mdke_ | really? | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | the ents seem to not work out well when we install | 08:23 |
| mdke_ | do they work with ubuntu-docs? | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I think ubuntu-docs works out ok | 08:24 |
| mdke_ | so just install the ents in the same place :) | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | but for some reason it seems like we either break svn or installed paths | 08:24 |
| mdke_ | so /usr/share/gnome/common and /usr/share/gnome/ubuntu are symbolic links to /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/common|ubuntu | 08:25 |
| mdke_ | did you try that? | 08:25 |
| mdke_ | we should probably do the same with /usr/share/gnome/libs I guess | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | hmm, let me have a look | 08:26 |
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| mdke_ | morning mpt | 08:50 |
| Madpilot | mdke_, noticed the vandalism on wuc/Home? | 09:07 |
| mdke_ | no, well spotted | 09:07 |
| Madpilot | someone else fixed the damage, I just haunt RecentChanges | 09:08 |
| Madpilot | actually, I've got wuc & huc/c's RecentChanges open in Opera, set to auto-refresh every 20min | 09:09 |
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| mdke_ | Madpilot: :) | 09:17 |
| Madpilot | the autorefresh means I don't have to subscribe to the whole of both wikis like some insane ppl do, but I can keep an eye on the whole thing while I'm surfing | 09:18 |
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| mpt | hi mdke_ | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | mdke_: do you know how to revert in svn? | 10:17 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mantha * r3887 edubuntu/ (9 files in 6 dirs): | 11:11 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: Finished edubuntu-docs package: | 11:11 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * reverted 3886 and 3875 | 11:11 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * updated changelog and copyright | 11:11 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * don't install to gnome/help/edubuntu | 11:11 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: * made handbook and releasenotes install path non-generic | 11:11 |
| LaserJock | badaboom! | 11:12 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: edubuntu-docs uploaded | 11:12 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #88964 in ubuntu-doc "Typo in the Packaging Guide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88964 | 03:45 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: you awake/around/available? | 08:09 |
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| mdke_ | LaserJock: svn revert (--recursive) filename | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | mdke_: yeah, it wasn't what I wanted | 08:50 |
| mdke_ | oh, merge? | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | I wanted to "go back in time" | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | bad terminology | 08:50 |
| mdke_ | yeah, merge | 08:51 |
| mdke_ | get it sorted? | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 08:51 |
| mdke_ | cool | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | I actually manually did it since it wasn't much | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | the merge command I found in the SVN manual didn't work for some reason | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | I think I might have been using it wrong, not sure | 08:51 |
| mdke_ | ah, I've only ever used it on quite simple changes | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | anyway, I got the edubuntu-docs package figure out, I hope | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | I uploaded it to Universe and got the MIR in the queue | 08:52 |
| mdke_ | cool | 08:53 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3888 generic/packagingguide/C/bugs.xml: typo, bug 88964 | 08:56 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 88964 in ubuntu-doc "Typo in the Packaging Guide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88964 | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | oh thanks | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | I was going to get to that | 08:57 |
| mdke_ | :) | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | did fabbione ever decide what to do about the serverguide? | 08:59 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: rock on! | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: :-) | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | I uploaded it at 2:30 am | 09:01 |
| nixternal | so you got it working ey? | 09:01 |
| nixternal | ya, I seen that | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | not exactly on the same day | 09:01 |
| nixternal | I passed out on the couch | 09:01 |
| nixternal | hehe | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | but close enough | 09:01 |
| nixternal | good, so that means you will get all of the bug reports for it now :) | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | nope | 09:02 |
| nixternal | you packaged it :) | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | it's in your name dude ;-) | 09:02 |
| nixternal | no no no | 09:02 |
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| nixternal | haha | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | I just tweaked it a tad | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | but you worked hard so I gave you the changelog entry | 09:02 |
| nixternal | lovely :) | 09:02 |
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| LaserJock | hmm | 09:03 |
| nixternal | hehe, smb4k is so bad | 09:04 |
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| mdke | LaserJock: no, he didn't reply to me | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | k | 09:07 |
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| h4writer | hi | 10:00 |
| h4writer | I got a suggestion of mpt to make the navigation bar (back, forward, help topics) need to be icon only | 10:01 |
| h4writer | But should it be better to make it possible to change it in gconf-editor? | 10:01 |
| h4writer | and default ICON only? | 10:01 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #85724 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Absence of GUI Command-line Code Reference on Terminal Emulators" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85724 | 10:01 |
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| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3889 ubuntu/basic-commands/ (. C/ C/basic-commands.xml): importing from the wiki, with some tweaks and manual fixes, needs review | 10:39 |
| mdke | if you can do a patch just to make it icon only, we'd definitely consider it I think | 10:45 |
| h4writer | I just made it;-) | 10:46 |
| mdke | cool | 10:46 |
| mdke | got a screenshot? | 10:46 |
| h4writer | will make one | 10:47 |
| h4writer | it is on edgy, but that wont change the behaviour | 10:47 |
| h4writer | (with gconf-editor changer;-)) | 10:47 |
| h4writer | http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7946/screenshot2ue8.png | 10:49 |
| h4writer | I've submitted the change of source to lists, so you can apply it yourself. It isn't working by me:-( | 10:50 |
| mdke | how do you mean, it isn't working? | 10:50 |
| h4writer | (I mean I can't build the newest package) | 10:50 |
| h4writer | just thought I is dubious | 10:50 |
| h4writer | The program is running;-) | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | h4writer: where did you get the source from? | 10:50 |
| h4writer | Now it is from bzr | 10:51 |
| h4writer | but I can take it from apt-get source to | 10:51 |
| mdke | you'll need to ensure that the patch works for feisty yelp for us to be able to consider it, I think | 10:51 |
| h4writer | It won't change my code I've changed;-) | 10:51 |
| h4writer | I mean, it will definitly work on feisty | 10:51 |
| mdke | you should also try and produce a screenshot with that specific change only, rather than with your other customisations | 10:51 |
| mdke | then we can run it past the yelp maintainer | 10:52 |
| h4writer | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2007-March/008198.html | 10:52 |
| h4writer | that's what I have changed | 10:52 |
| h4writer | is it an option to give that to the yelp maintainer? | 10:53 |
| h4writer | that's the customisation of the toolbar only;-) | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | h4writer: you really need to get the Feisty yelp source going | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | h4writer: what release are you using? | 10:54 |
| mdke | yes, I think we can try that, but a patch on the feisty would be better | 10:54 |
| h4writer | can you give https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2007-March/008196.html tot? | 10:54 |
| h4writer | it is a patch for the arrows | 10:54 |
| h4writer | in the find bar | 10:54 |
| h4writer | and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2007-March/008195.html | 10:55 |
| mdke | I don't really understand what is wrong with the arrows | 10:55 |
| h4writer | will show my version | 10:55 |
| h4writer | just had a firefox crash | 10:57 |
| h4writer | so wait a minute | 10:57 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3890 ubuntu/ (libs/gnome-menus-C.ent office/C/office.xml): gnucash menu entry as per #71632 | 10:58 |
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| h4writer | http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2305/screenshot3mt4.png | 11:02 |
| h4writer | @mdke, here you see | 11:03 |
| h4writer | I think it is logicaler | 11:03 |
| h4writer | I'm going to sleep | 11:09 |
| h4writer | so bye | 11:09 |
| mdke | it looks the same as in feisty already | 11:10 |
| mdke | (the arrows) | 11:10 |
| h4writer | okey | 11:11 |
| h4writer | np | 11:11 |
| h4writer | :p | 11:11 |
| CIA-4 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3891 ubuntu/internet/C/internet.xml: bug 61714 | 11:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61714 in ubuntu-docs "BitTorrent sidebar entry is too large " [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61714 | 11:11 |
| mdke | gnight all | 11:18 |
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