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| parkerw207 | heya guys just looking for a bit of help | 10:00 |
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| parkerw207 | i have this idea , i want to host my own website with my own server | 10:00 |
| mralphabet | okay | 10:00 |
| parkerw207 | would the ubuntu server addidtion be a good choice? | 10:00 |
| mralphabet | ubuntu LAMP | 10:01 |
| parkerw207 | oo blah , brb being sent to me car to get something lol | 10:01 |
| mralphabet | LAMP = webserver ready for use right out of the box | 10:01 |
| GNu_Joe | then install openssh-server ASAP | 10:01 |
| GNu_Joe | if you want remote login that is ;-) | 10:01 |
| parkerw207 | yeah i will need remote login | 10:01 |
| GNu_Joe | have to put that bug back in | 10:02 |
| parkerw207 | another thing , can you have a server hosting webpages , and have the server connecting my pc's in my house ? | 10:02 |
| GNu_Joe | parkerw207, is the system an old PC? | 10:02 |
| parkerw207 | there is a lot :P | 10:02 |
| parkerw207 | ooo i havent bought one yet | 10:02 |
| parkerw207 | this is theory work at the moment | 10:02 |
| parkerw207 | i have tons of old pc's around | 10:02 |
| parkerw207 | but i was thinking of buying a dedicated server | 10:02 |
| GNu_Joe | if it's older then say 4 years it may not be compatable with the server kernel | 10:03 |
| parkerw207 | thats cool , well my budget would be about 2000 | 10:03 |
| GNu_Joe | in which case you will need to boot into recovery mode and apt-get a kernel that works | 10:03 |
| parkerw207 | ahh i see | 10:03 |
| parkerw207 | well , i'll buy a dedicated server | 10:04 |
| GNu_Joe | dedicated? how so? | 10:04 |
| parkerw207 | right , i am a IT student so i dont knwo everything , as you can tell this is just prelimary research | 10:04 |
| parkerw207 | i thought you could buy dedicated servers ? | 10:04 |
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| parkerw207 | or is that just a phrase i misinterpreted lol | 10:05 |
| GNu_Joe | then look at KVM / QEMM for emulation you should be able to create a buch of vurtual PC's | 10:05 |
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| parkerw207 | ooo cool , another thing , could i attach a load of hard drives to the server so that everyone on my linux network got saved to the server rather than their terminals? , we have a habit of laptop break sessions :P | 10:06 |
| mralphabet | sure | 10:07 |
| parkerw207 | is it easy to do ? i aint thick , i am trying not to sound it :P this is just a bit of research | 10:07 |
| mralphabet | where is this machine going to be physically located? | 10:08 |
| mralphabet | is this a business use server? like something in your office? or are you going to have it colo'd somewhere? | 10:08 |
| parkerw207 | well it was going to go in my house somewhere | 10:09 |
| parkerw207 | this would be for the family | 10:09 |
| parkerw207 | and to run my theoretical website lol | 10:09 |
| mralphabet | I just needed to know what kind of scale we were talking about here | 10:10 |
| parkerw207 | like , 7 terminals | 10:10 |
| parkerw207 | and the server will be used to host my website | 10:10 |
| mralphabet | for your windows clients, you can use somehting called roaming profile where all the user documents can be redirected to the linux box | 10:12 |
| parkerw207 | oo , were all switching to linux soon | 10:13 |
| parkerw207 | i'm using linux at the moment | 10:13 |
| parkerw207 | been using it for a while | 10:13 |
| mralphabet | for linux clients I know you can do something similar, but I am not familiar with it | 10:13 |
| parkerw207 | oo i see , well it is easy enough to have the server hosting the website and the home network at the same tie ? | 10:14 |
| parkerw207 | or would that slow things down | 10:14 |
| mralphabet | if you are buying anything recent, that type of use isn't going to touch the cpu / ram | 10:15 |
| mralphabet | hard drives you may want to splurge on and make sure you get something at least 7200 rpm if not 10000 rpm with some decent size cache | 10:16 |
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| mralphabet | even still, 7 desktops are not going to put a dent in a decent machine. | 10:16 |
| parkerw207 | oo great , well i have 2000 for a server | 10:16 |
| parkerw207 | is that enough? | 10:16 |
| mralphabet | . . . you could buy the dell 440 and be fine, those go for $400 | 10:17 |
| parkerw207 | oo cool :) | 10:17 |
| parkerw207 | how easy is it to host your own email service? | 10:17 |
| mralphabet | or bump up to the next chassis that has more room for hard drives and you go up to around $7or800 | 10:17 |
| parkerw207 | so that would be around...650 pound | 10:19 |
| mralphabet | whatever it works out to be | 10:19 |
| stelis | We recently bought a Dell server for about 400 | 10:20 |
| stelis | I think it was a similar spec to a 440 | 10:20 |
| stelis | That was single disk drive | 10:20 |
| parkerw207 | oo that is good , is ubuntu good as a server? | 10:21 |
| mralphabet | I use it on my file server and haven't had a problem | 10:21 |
| parkerw207 | oo thats ok then | 10:22 |
| parkerw207 | linux is meant to be the best at servers right? | 10:22 |
| mralphabet | it works well for what I use it for . . . best is in the eye of the beholder | 10:23 |
| ivoks | 7 machines? and simple desktop computer could serve 7 machines :) | 10:23 |
| parkerw207 | yeah i see what you mean | 10:23 |
| stelis | It's a lot more flexible than Windows, and has a large number of server applications | 10:23 |
| parkerw207 | oo i see | 10:23 |
| parkerw207 | so i could use an old pc? | 10:24 |
| ivoks | i have 60 computers, whole / is server from old p3@1.1GHz | 10:24 |
| ivoks | s/server/served | 10:24 |
| parkerw207 | ooo i see | 10:24 |
| ivoks | but with SCSI RAID | 10:25 |
| parkerw207 | would i need the gnome desktop environment though? | 10:25 |
| parkerw207 | is that not a drain on things? | 10:25 |
| ivoks | where? | 10:25 |
| ivoks | on server? | 10:25 |
| parkerw207 | yup | 10:25 |
| ivoks | servers are best if they run only the things they need | 10:26 |
| parkerw207 | yeah true | 10:27 |
| mralphabet | though some of the administration is "easier" through the gnome desktop if you are not familiar with the command line | 10:28 |
| mralphabet | though, I would suggest using the command line for educational purposes | 10:28 |
| parkerw207 | yeah i will do | 10:29 |
| parkerw207 | well thanks for tall the info guys , been very helpfull , now i have to go | 10:30 |
| parkerw207 | have a nice day all | 10:30 |
| mralphabet | aol.com | 10:30 |
| mralphabet | it makes one wonder | 10:30 |
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