[10:00] <parkerw207> heya guys just looking for a bit of help
[10:00] <parkerw207> i have this idea , i want to host my own website with my own server
[10:00] <mralphabet> okay
[10:00] <parkerw207> would the ubuntu server addidtion be a good choice?
[10:01] <mralphabet> ubuntu LAMP
[10:01] <parkerw207> oo blah , brb being sent to me car to get something lol 
[10:01] <mralphabet> LAMP = webserver ready for use right out of the box
[10:01] <GNu_Joe> then install openssh-server ASAP
[10:01] <GNu_Joe> if you want remote login that is ;-)
[10:01] <parkerw207> yeah i will need remote login
[10:02] <GNu_Joe> have to put that bug back in
[10:02] <parkerw207> another thing , can you have a server hosting webpages , and have the server connecting my pc's in my house ?
[10:02] <GNu_Joe> parkerw207, is the system an old PC?
[10:02] <parkerw207> there is a lot :P
[10:02] <parkerw207> ooo i havent bought one yet
[10:02] <parkerw207> this is theory work at the moment
[10:02] <parkerw207> i have tons of old pc's around
[10:02] <parkerw207> but i was thinking of buying a dedicated server
[10:03] <GNu_Joe> if it's older then say 4 years it may not be compatable with the server kernel
[10:03] <parkerw207> thats cool , well my budget would be about 2000 
[10:03] <GNu_Joe> in which case you will need to boot into recovery mode and apt-get a kernel that works
[10:03] <parkerw207> ahh i see
[10:04] <parkerw207> well , i'll buy a dedicated server
[10:04] <GNu_Joe> dedicated? how so?
[10:04] <parkerw207> right , i am a IT student so i dont knwo everything , as you can tell this is just prelimary research
[10:04] <parkerw207> i thought you could buy dedicated servers ?
[10:05] <parkerw207> or is that just a phrase i misinterpreted lol
[10:05] <GNu_Joe> then look at KVM / QEMM for emulation you should be able to create a buch of vurtual PC's
[10:06] <parkerw207> ooo cool , another thing , could i attach a load of hard drives to the server so that everyone on my linux network got saved to the server rather than their terminals? , we have a habit of laptop break sessions :P
[10:07] <mralphabet> sure
[10:07] <parkerw207> is it easy to do ? i aint thick , i am trying not to sound it :P this is just a bit of research 
[10:08] <mralphabet> where is this machine going to be physically located?
[10:08] <mralphabet> is this a business use server? like something in your office? or are you going to have it colo'd somewhere?
[10:09] <parkerw207> well it was going to go in my house somewhere
[10:09] <parkerw207> this would be for the family
[10:09] <parkerw207> and to run my theoretical website lol
[10:10] <mralphabet> I just needed to know what kind of scale we were talking about here
[10:10] <parkerw207> like , 7 terminals
[10:10] <parkerw207> and the server will be used to host my website
[10:12] <mralphabet> for your windows clients, you can use somehting called roaming profile where all the user documents can be redirected to the linux box
[10:13] <parkerw207> oo , were all switching to linux soon
[10:13] <parkerw207> i'm using linux at the moment
[10:13] <parkerw207> been using it for a while
[10:13] <mralphabet> for linux clients I know you can do something similar, but I am not familiar with it
[10:14] <parkerw207> oo i see , well it is easy enough to have the server hosting the website and the home network at the same tie ?
[10:14] <parkerw207> or would that slow things down
[10:15] <mralphabet> if you are buying anything recent, that type of use isn't going to touch the cpu / ram
[10:16] <mralphabet> hard drives you may want to splurge on and make sure you get something at least 7200 rpm if not 10000 rpm with some decent size cache
[10:16] <mralphabet> even still, 7 desktops are not going to put a dent in a decent machine.
[10:16] <parkerw207> oo great , well i have 2000 for a server
[10:16] <parkerw207> is that enough?
[10:17] <mralphabet> . . . you could buy the dell 440 and be fine, those go for $400
[10:17] <parkerw207> oo cool :)
[10:17] <parkerw207> how easy is it to host your own email service?
[10:17] <mralphabet> or bump up to the next chassis that has more room for hard drives and you go up to around $7or800
[10:19] <parkerw207> so that would be around...650 pound
[10:19] <mralphabet> whatever it works out to be
[10:20] <stelis> We recently bought a Dell server for about 400
[10:20] <stelis> I think it was a similar spec to a 440
[10:20] <stelis> That was single disk drive
[10:21] <parkerw207> oo that is good , is ubuntu good as a server?
[10:21] <mralphabet> I use it on my file server and haven't had a problem
[10:22] <parkerw207> oo thats ok then 
[10:22] <parkerw207> linux is meant to be the best at servers right?
[10:23] <mralphabet> it works well for what I use it for . . . best is in the eye of the beholder
[10:23] <ivoks> 7 machines? and simple desktop computer could serve 7 machines :)
[10:23] <parkerw207> yeah i see what you mean
[10:23] <stelis> It's a lot more flexible than Windows, and has a large number of server applications
[10:23] <parkerw207> oo i see
[10:24] <parkerw207> so i could use an old pc?
[10:24] <ivoks> i have 60 computers, whole / is server from old p3@1.1GHz
[10:24] <ivoks> s/server/served
[10:24] <parkerw207> ooo i see
[10:25] <ivoks> but with SCSI RAID
[10:25] <parkerw207> would i need the gnome desktop environment though?
[10:25] <parkerw207> is that not a drain on things?
[10:25] <ivoks> where?
[10:25] <ivoks> on server?
[10:25] <parkerw207> yup
[10:26] <ivoks> servers are best if they run only the things they need
[10:27] <parkerw207> yeah true
[10:28] <mralphabet> though some of the administration is "easier" through the gnome desktop if you are not familiar with the command line
[10:28] <mralphabet> though, I would suggest using the command line for educational purposes
[10:29] <parkerw207> yeah i will do
[10:30] <parkerw207> well thanks for tall the info guys , been very helpfull , now i have to go 
[10:30] <parkerw207> have a nice day all 
[10:30] <mralphabet> aol.com
[10:30] <mralphabet> it makes one wonder