=== Dylan_ [n=chatzill@71.192.31.178] has joined #xubuntu === drx0drx-xubuntu [n=DrX-xubu@adsl-68-120-71-127.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:31] Can i skip select and install packages in the install? === AngryElf_ [n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === sultanovich [i=sultanov@host121.201-253-225.telecom.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [12:34] grazie: It worked! Thanks. I rebooted and typed in my login and password, then it came up with dylan@localhoast:~$ === sultanovich say hi [12:35] anyone her like to explain what a PCI-bus slot cpu card is and/or ISA-bus and/or Slot CPU card accessories ---> link --> http://www.advantech.gr/products/sub_category.asp-Category_ID=1-1TH71W&BU=ACG.htm [12:35] hi [12:36] is it a mini computer? that uses the pci slot for power? or just a cpu? linux compatible [12:36] Dylan_: I'm confused...what worked? [12:36] grazie: the installation, but i can skip select and install step right? [12:36] no i dont think so === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.163.143] has joined #xubuntu [12:38] Jester45: I don't know what I'm being asked... [12:39] Dylan_: you've installed xbuntu, yes? [12:39] grazie: go to the above link and explain to me what those are === Darkkish [i=idont@c-67-171-16-255.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:40] grazie: yeah, but its not working, i skipped a step in the installation process [12:41] Jester45: look like motherboards for small devices to me === steve_jbs [n=sharris@204-225-123-150.xdsl.convoke.net] has left #xubuntu [] [12:41] Dylan_: what step did you skip? [12:44] grazie: they plug into pci slots [12:45] Jester45: some kind of development platform? new to me... [12:46] i think they are mini computers [12:46] one has 8 usb ports intergrated video and a 1gb ram slo [12:46] t [12:47] O.O What are we talking about? [12:47] http://www.advantech.gr/products/sub_category.asp-Category_ID=1-1TH71W&BU=ACG.htm [12:48] those things [12:48] what? ANOTHER Firefox security update? Hope this gets swiftfox-ized soon. [12:49] cool, already is/ === moparisthebest [n=FBI@cpe-69-133-96-111.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] interesting [12:50] is they are mini computers... [12:51] garzie: i skipped the setting up network(but that shouldn't have hurt it)and the select and install software [12:51] i got 4 pci slots for them [12:51] lol jester [12:51] and a unused motherboard with a 133mhz in it [12:51] get a new power supply and then used that as power for a few more [12:51] cellofellow is that alot nicer than regular FF and can you use regular FF extensions very well? [12:52] Darkkish: all the extensions and everything else work perfectly. The underside stuff is optimized for Linux and specific CPU's. [12:52] yes regular extensions work [12:52] its lgihter and faster [12:52] getswiftfox.com [12:53] plugins, extensions, themes, page rendering. All works identically. [12:53] neat cellofellow [12:53] cellofellow is it faster or something? [12:53] click the Debian link. [12:53] plenty faster, especially at startup time. [12:54] this is my good comp but i don' thave linux installed right now [12:54] on this one [12:54] its an athlon64 3500+ [12:54] oh, :) :( [12:54] there's athlon-specific versions of Swiftfox. I get the PIII version. [12:54] pretty soon i'm going to get a faster processer, more ram, and a faster Gfx card... i'm thinking about just buying a new case and mobo to go with it. [12:55] yeah my lappy with xubuntu is PIII [12:55] Darkkish: if you did that then it wouldnt really be the same comp [12:55] Jester45 exactly. [12:55] two nice compys :) [12:55] you could just get a2nd processor 2 ram 2 gfx card and so one and have 2 comptuers [12:56] yep [12:56] what am i missing... [12:56] gfx card, ram, harddrive, mobo, case, psu, cpu [12:56] thats everything right? [12:56] aside from a moniter, speakers and keyboard/mouse of course. [12:57] cd drive [12:57] but thats not NEEDED [12:58] yeah but it is if i plan to install an OS on it :p [12:58] well almost... [12:58] you coulse just use the drive from the 1st computer [12:58] to install then your be fine [12:58] use network or usb to transfer files [12:59] yeah... but CD Drives are cheap [12:59] I'd get a DVD +/- RW burner [12:59] yea [12:59] this is what i plan to put into my new comp === Koji-Murasame [n=nick@74-131-39-113.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === sultanovich [i=sultanov@host121.201-253-225.telecom.net.ar] has left #xubuntu ["Saliendo"] [01:00] AMD Athlon X2 4200+ (or higher (maybe)), 2GB Kingston or Corsair ram, GeForce 7900GT, some Asus mobo w/ sli and all the goodies... [01:01] and a 200GB WD HDD [01:01] thats what i'm aiming for. [01:01] i'll probably buy the parts and assemble it over the course of 1 or 2 months. [01:01] Darkkish don't waste our money on SLi === AngryElf_ [n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:01] im looking at Intel Pentium 4 or D, a 700 watt power suppy with 160 mm fan, ninja cpu cooler, geforce 7900 gtx, 4gb ram [01:01] to much cost for too little of an improvemnt [01:01] lol i just want an sli mobo, i don't actually have sli cards, because i agree with you [01:01] yeah thats ok [01:02] ASUS makes really nice nforce mobos which come with SLi usually [01:02] 700 watts? [01:02] its a computer not an overn [01:02] oven* [01:03] ?? [01:03] I have 1100 watts in mine [01:03] you probly have a 300 or more [01:03] lol BFTD wtf? [01:03] i have 500 [01:03] I would suggesting going with anything less then 500watts [01:03] right now i have an AMD 3500+ with a geforce 6600GT [01:03] Darkkish yeah I have 2 PSU's in it [01:04] BFTD why? [01:04] a 500 and a 600 [01:04] do you just enjoy high elec bills? [01:04] :p [01:04] Darkkish I ran out of conectors, I didn't have a y splitter so i just the extra psu [01:05] Lol [01:05] Darkkish it only usues about 400 watts of it [01:05] yeah usually :p [01:05] holy shit [01:05] you should see the price on these athlon X2s === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-154-164.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:05] its insane [01:05] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103759 [01:05] Darkkish lets move this subject over too #xubuntu-offtopic [01:06] Darkkish thats a great deal, you should get it [01:06] :) [01:06] sorry BFTD :p [01:08] bug 30791 [01:08] Malone bug 30791 in firefox "firefox 1.4.99 upgrade still have compreg.dat, creates issue" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30791 === DuMonkey [n=Miranda@69.71.163.143] has joined #xubuntu [01:09] hello little bor [01:09] bro* [01:09] i'm not BORING [01:09] u r [01:10] when did I say you were? [01:10] what's all the other names on the right [01:10] people in here. [01:10] they're not talking [01:11] shut up and listen. [01:11] to what???????? [01:11] :| ? [01:11] the ops kickbanning you for spamming up the channel. [01:11] what? [01:11] yea im here listening [01:12] :D [01:12] no one is SAYING anything really important though [01:12] plus im doing hw [01:12] I don't know anything about XUBUNTU [01:12] ! [01:12] well, leave the channel then. [01:12] ok [01:13] i will [01:13] lol bye [01:15] what the heck was that about? [01:15] my kid brother. [01:15] ha he actually left? [01:15] cellofellow: my older brother got me into ubuntu [01:16] he runs kubuntu exclusivly though [01:16] My brother likes ubuntu better too, he just isn't a geek kid. [01:16] i run edubuntu on one comp, kubuntu on another, trying to get a new hd for xubuntu [01:16] ahhh yea im not TOO big into the coding, doc, w/e stuff [01:17] but im big into the freedom [01:17] and helping out wherever i can [01:17] xubuntu on here, Win98 on the box he's using, and still fighting to get Xubuntu on it. === BFTD [n=Robert@unaffiliated/bftd] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] It really needs a reinstall of SOMETHING. I figure I if I buy a new copy of Win98 and then dual-boot everbody will be happy. [01:18] windows 98? why touch that stuff? [01:18] its lightweight [01:18] and some people still need Windows here. [01:18] where is here? [01:19] my house [01:19] oh... but why do they needs windows? [01:19] Have you tried any of the utilities that strip down windows 98? Some of those are really cool [01:19] I still can't get Noteworthy Composer or an equivilant to run on Linux. [01:19] hmm what is noteworthy [01:19] there's one that replaces the Win98 shell with the Win95 one, and it flies [01:20] posingaspopular: notation and midi (music stuff) program my mom uses. [01:20] BrendanM: I think I would like something with the more robust NT core instead of the clunky DOS core. [01:21] http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html [01:21] ahh i see [01:21] there's also litestep. [01:21] That's true, but Win98 was relatively stable as far as non-NT-based Windows goes [01:22] I tried NoteEdit, which had notation capablities to surpass NoteWorthy, but I can't get it to output to ALSA, as it is ONLY midi. Timidity it uses to output to ALSA PCM. [01:22] Also, KDE apps (which noteedit is) suck power on this box. === AngryElf_ [n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Koji-Murasame [n=nick@74-131-39-113.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu [] [01:25] I suppose I COULD get noteedit working. She needs something that does 3 things: 1) Easy input of notes with buttons AND keystrokes. 2) Plays output to speakers. 3) Plays output and notates input from the digital piano. === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === t0taln00b [i=t0taln00@88.204.146.70] has left #xubuntu [] === topo [n=topo@cable200-116-24-18.epm.net.co] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] alguien que hable espaol === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] any advice on srinking my prartion [01:30] !es [01:30] Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. [01:30] whats the chance of messing up my stuff [01:30] cellofellow, men [01:31] I've done that, using gparted. back up the partition that will get BIGGER, and make sure there is little fragmentation in the part that will get smaller. [01:32] ok i got 2 partions [01:32] install and swap [01:32] i want to srink the OS part [01:32] OS and swap [01:35] just swapoff /dev/thepart and use gparted, then swapon /dev/thepart [01:36] so i would need to use a live cd them [01:36] then [01:37] yeah [01:37] but the livecd will still use that swap partition and won't let you resize it, so you'll have to swapoff. [01:37] ok [01:37] well [01:37] im going to resize my OS partition [01:38] I have 4 partitions on 3 drives. OS and Swap on one, /home on another, and /media/little-disk on another. [01:39] lol [01:40] my media part is like 100gb then swap is 10 and OS is using umm 10ish [01:40] jeebus [01:40] sooo much used space [01:41] well... [01:41] thats on this computer === maxamillion has never used more than 20gb of any hard drive ... ever ... even with multiple OS's on one drive [01:43] i got used in my house [01:43] over a tb [01:44] jeebus [01:44] i just don't have that much stuff ... i stream all my music from shoutcast and all i do is school work and code [01:46] i stream my music from my fileserver [01:46] and movies [01:46] and games === Malfist [n=jerome@CPE-76-177-27-136.natcky.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] and everything else [01:46] How can I set a program to autostart? [01:46] quit [01:47] well, that's not right [01:50] lol [01:50] cellofellow: so resizing the OS partition should work? [01:50] should be perfectly fine. [01:51] ok [01:51] now [01:52] how could i go about booting to the 2nd partion [01:52] if my computer doesn't have usb keyboard ablity and thats all i have [01:53] ummm. so the BIOS won't use USB keyboard? [01:53] grub should though. [01:54] Jester45 at radio shack [01:54] you can buy thoes little USB/PS2 connectors for pretty cheap [01:54] or you could just check craigslist for free ps2 keyboards in your area === cellofellow has one for his mouse. [01:55] yes i had one but i broke it [01:55] and i cant to go store right now [01:55] and i wanna boot to it right now [01:56] you gotta have a ps/2 keyboard somewhere. I got a drawer full of things like keyboards and mice. [01:57] nope none that i can use [02:10] Jester45 what do you mean that you can use? [02:10] ps/2 keyboards [02:11] i know what they are i have one in the house but i cant use it [02:11] its connected to my xbox [02:11] long story [02:11] ps/2 connected to xbox? [02:12] yes [02:13] complicated [02:14] If I got an XBox, I'd have to promise to my parents to hack it. They don't like video games. [02:14] I wonder if tuxracer would run on a hacked xbox. [02:16] cellofellow, I guess tuxracer would be slow, with no accelerated gfx :/ [02:17] xbox has no acceleration? [02:17] yes the xbox does, but there is no linux driver as far as i know === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-78-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:18] unless 700mhz can do everything in software mode ;) === jlamr [n=jlamr@FT-ESR1-208-102-54-63.fuse.net] has joined #xubuntu === Malfist [n=jerome@CPE-76-177-27-136.natcky.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] Can anyone tell me how to ste a program to autostart? I have a memory and CPU monitor I want to autostart [02:21] add them to Applications -> Settings -> Autostarted Applications [02:21] I saw that but I don't know how to add it === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:21] it's name under the menu is CPU/Mem monitor [02:22] what would that command be? [02:22] I think you can drag and drop into the Autostarted Apps thing from the AppFinder in Applications -> Accesories. [02:22] oh [02:22] I'll try [02:23] No, didn't work [02:24] the program is in the repositories [02:24] ummm [02:25] What would be the command to launch it? [02:25] would it just be CPU/Mem Monitor? === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:26] no [02:26] what's it really called. In lowercase without slashes [02:26] when you installed it [02:26] what do you mean? [02:26] I got it from the standard thingy not the package manager [02:27] the add/remove [02:27] oh :/ [02:27] you can just use the System Stats or whatever it's called applet for the panel. [02:27] ? [02:27] you can add those things to the taskbar/panel [02:28] !htop [02:28] :) [02:28] htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB [02:28] htop will tell you the command that was run for a process. Nice part about it. [02:28] you've lost me [02:29] add what to the taskbar/panel? [02:29] cpu and memory monitors [02:29] how do I add it to the taskbar? [02:29] right click, click Add Items, and then scroll around [02:29] !atop [02:29] atop: Monitor for system resources and process activity. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-2 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB [02:29] atop? === maxamillion googles [02:30] apt-getting atop [02:30] i just read about it in "linux format" [02:30] and htop [02:31] in add item it calls it cpu graph [02:31] would that be the command? [02:31] j1mc: have you tried htop? [02:31] no [02:31] Malfist: it should be [02:31] j1mc: you should give it a shot [02:32] cool. i will check it out. [02:32] it doesn't stick [02:32] I close the autostart menu and restart it and the program is gone [02:33] conky may be your cup of tea [02:33] !conmky [02:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about conmky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:33] !conky [02:33] conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB [02:34] conky? [02:35] ever used DSL? it's based off of the system monitor in that. [02:35] Only DSL I've ever used was the internet and Dark and Shattered Lands, a mud game [02:35] over telnet === j1mc is so tired. === j1mc just hopes they release a herd 5 of xubuntu [02:36] conky gets to 'Conky: drawing to subwindow of root window (1000003) [02:36] Conky: drawing to single buffer [02:36] ' and stops [02:37] :( [02:37] oh [02:37] I see it on the desktop [02:37] How can I move it [02:37] it's in the bottom corner and can't read it [02:37] config file ~/.conkyrc [02:38] sudo it? [02:38] no [02:38] Malfist: no ... just edit it :) [02:38] bah!!!! [02:38] brb [02:38] It seems to be a blank file [02:38] yeah [02:39] read man conky [02:39] kk === Kresjah_laptop [n=Kresjah@ti231210a080-13845.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [02:40] how would I set a value? variable:value ? [02:40] umm, I don't remember [02:42] <[187ci] marc> hacked xbox?! Please that is nothing more then modding... [02:42] Hey! Need some serious help. I have a machine with xubuntu here, where I am experiencing extreme instability. Long story short, it has an uptime of about 4 minutes before it freezes the whole computer completely. Only way to restart is the reset button it seems. I'm no techie, so there might be stuff I've missed, but the only things I can see of errors and warnings in Xorg.0.log is some missing font directories and stuff. Anyone w [02:43] This seems to apply when running standard mode. I don't think this happens in recovery mode. [02:43] video card? [02:43] <[187ci] marc> lol [02:45] Humm... umm... ATI Rage 128 or something around there. The odd thing is that it has worked almost perfect for several days, it just started acting up a few hours ago (with no changes done since those "several days"). === kriel [n=kriel@c-67-175-175-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:45] hey. can somebody help me fight through a sound patch? I got a new laptop that isn't supported by ubuntu's built in sound system, and i found a patch that's supposed to alleviate the problem, but im not entirely sure how to implement said patch. [02:45] odd, I had similar problems this week, but only when fluxbox was running. === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:46] <[187ci] marc> have you installed anything lately? [02:46] Quote from last lines I've written: "(with no changes done since those "several days")." === Sweetandy [n=andrew@c-24-17-18-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:47] Is there a terminal command in Xubuntu that will give him his computer's Mhz? [02:47] <[187ci] marc> just restart the computer [02:47] <[187ci] marc> go in your cmos [02:48] ah, mmk [02:48] <[187ci] marc> and look for monitor hardware [02:48] <[187ci] marc> it should be some place there [02:50] lol mmk [02:51] Sweetandy: cat /proc/cpuinfo [02:51] Anyone have any clue as to where I can start debugggin this issue [02:52] ? [02:54] Kresjah_laptop: If it's just started freezing after no sw changes it'll be tough to find, but I'd suspect hw failure [02:57] grazie: Thanks! [02:59] it seems that the last entries in Xorg.0.log are always these: [03:00] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/, removing from list [03:00] And there are two more similar lines, just replacing TTF with OTF and CID === Debaser_1 [n=sean@pool-71-127-167-82.syrcny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === sparrw [n=kvirc@71.16.203.242] has joined #xubuntu === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-13845.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === ComputerHermit [n=computer@cpe-066-056-202-006.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === kristjans [n=kristjan@static-71-102-88-66.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Koji-Murasame [n=nick@74-131-39-113.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === Malfist [n=jerome@CPE-76-177-27-136.natcky.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] is anyone still on that helped me earlier with cpu/mem monitor stating at start up? [03:54] I found the process's name [03:54] mb-applet-system-monitor [03:54] I guess not [03:54] oh-well [03:54] would that be [03:54] cellofellow or maxamillion [03:54] hm [03:54] ? [03:55] oh lol [03:56] Jester45 is everyone who comes in so impatient? [03:56] kinda [03:57] one guy said [03:57] hi [03:57] anyone here? [03:57] guess not [03:57] bye suckers [03:57] and left [03:57] he came and left in under a minute [03:58] some guy in wine did that [03:58] thats just how some people are, they think we are here to serve them [03:58] whinehq [03:58] like we owe them or something ;) [03:58] lol :p [03:59] well i have joined channels to get help and sometimes its a pain in the ass getting anyone to talk, but usually i hang around for 10-30 minutes... [03:59] yea, I join channels for help all the time, patience is the key [03:59] it's kind of like hunting or fishing [03:59] :P === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.163.143] has joined #xubuntu [04:22] i have a question [04:22] why does all new computers come with vista preinstalled === Wizaado [n=Wizaado@c-68-35-207-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:22] http://bash.org/?731734 lmfao [04:23] i would rather have xp then that piece of crap === j1mc [n=j1m@75.21.78.129] has joined #xubuntu [04:23] Jester45 the same reason all old computers came with winxp but just be happy, vista is a total mem-hog, all the new computers you buy will have atleast semi-decent hardware in it to begin with [04:23] none of that 512MB of ram crap [04:23] and nona that onboard video either [04:23] bug #1 [04:23] Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [04:24] cellofellow, is that bug going to be fixed for feisty? [04:24] i dont care that the computer come with xp preinstalled but know i have ot buy a computer then pay to downgrade?? [04:24] lol [04:24] maybe BY feisty+1 [04:24] I think 7.10 should be called Groovy Gazelle. [04:25] tell a dev that [04:25] It's up to Mark Shuttleworth what the releases are called. [04:26] give him it [04:26] he might like it [04:26] he has a public email? [04:26] where's the feisty list of features for xubuntu? if ther eis one [04:26] groovy gazelle would need beryl by default [04:26] cellofellow, sure.. he posts on the mailing list [04:27] whats groovy gazelle? 7.10? [04:27] 7.04 had some other name i thought.. cant remember waht [04:27] that'd be the release notes, which I think are in the wiki. [04:27] feisty fawn :) [04:27] gahrooveh gazayell [04:27] i like that [04:27] yeah, Feisty Fawn. [04:27] oh, there was another name, other than feisty? [04:27] groovey gazelle [04:27] groovy gazelle was just my idea. [04:27] i know [04:27] its good [04:28] cellofellow, the release notes im' looking at only have 6.06 [04:28] :( [04:28] Docs out of date I guess. [04:28] when i downloaded xfce [04:28] er [04:28] xubuntu * [04:28] and ran firefox for the first time [04:28] oh, and you'l have to look in the Feisty dev stuff fer Feisty. [04:29] it said "xubuntu 6.06" [04:29] i thought it was 6.10 [04:29] I never got that, cause I updated. [04:29] Darkkish, you should condense your sentences ;) [04:29] :( fix has been committed for that, but was not backported [04:29] cellofellow, running fiesty by any chance? [04:30] nope. I had it installed on a spare hard drive but formatted. [04:30]