stdinhuh, what will I know? :P12:13
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Mena_coreymon77, try at first autoremove12:13
coreymon77stdin: im running a livecd here12:14
Mena_coreymon77, o12:14
Mena_stephan22222_ , So12:14
coreymon77stdin: because my filesystem i think is corrupt or broken12:14
coreymon77i get a fsck error about it not being clean when i try to boot12:14
coreymon77stdin: how do i fix it12:14
Mena_stephan22222_ , What happened12:15
stdincoreymon77: what's the device called? /dev/hda1?12:15
stephan22222_update worked12:15
Mena_stephan22222_ , what a bout autoremove12:15
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Mena_stephan22222_ , not yet12:15
coreymon77stdin: the device is hdb112:16
stephan22222_stephan@hongkong:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get autoremove12:16
stephan22222_E: Invalid operation autoremove12:16
stdincoreymon77: ok, try this: sudo fsck -f /dev/hdb1 (in konsole)12:16
Mena_stephan22222_ , hmmm12:16
Mena_stdin, any idea12:16
coreymon77stdin: okay12:17
coreymon77stdin: it gave me output12:17
ubotukmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2174 kB, installed size 6724 kB12:17
stdinMena_: that's probably because it using the dapper version of apt there12:17
stdincoreymon77: what's it say?12:17
Mena_stdin, ok12:17
coreymon77should i just paste it12:17
stdincoreymon77: use pastebin12:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:17
Mena_stdin, do you know the command with apt deapper12:18
Mena_stdin, me dont know12:18
stdinMena_: for autoremove? there isn't one on dapper12:18
Mena_stdin, so12:18
coreymon77stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8142/12:18
Mena_stdin, but he gets use autoremove12:18
Mena_stdin, when try to install something12:18
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Mena_stephan22222_ , right12:19
coreymon77stdin: btw, my system is an edgy system and im running off of an edgy livecd right now12:19
coreymon77stdin: in case it matters12:19
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stdincoreymon77: that looks ok, what does "sudo fdisk -l" show? (l is a lower case L)12:20
stephan22222_Mena_: can i do it without autoremove?12:20
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Mena_stephan22222_ , dont think that12:20
Ogisomeone knows how can I download video from my computer to my ipod on kubuntu?12:20
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stephan22222_Mena_: my system is destoyed?12:21
Mena_stephan22222_ , no no no12:21
stdinOgi: mount the iPod, and just copy it over12:21
Mena_stephan22222_ , sec plz12:21
coreymon77stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8143/12:21
coreymon77stdin: will i be able to recover my system?12:22
blizzzekis there any upstream limitation per user in kpf or something? say 25 KB/s?12:22
jarnIs there a way to reverse the stereo channels?12:22
stdincoreymon77: it looks ok, try booting it again, should be working12:22
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coreymon77stdin: it will be okay?12:22
stdincoreymon77: should be, if not just come back here12:22
coreymon77stdin: did fsck fix anything?12:23
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:23
blizzzekjarn: ??12:23
Mena_stephan22222_ , hmmm use the right ls i give you12:23
Mena_stephan22222_ , lst12:23
Mena_stephan22222_ , for now12:23
jarnblizzzek: So what normally comes out of right speaker would come out of the left and vice versa.12:23
stdincoreymon77: it checked it, and said it was ok now, so just give booting a shot12:23
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Mena_stephan22222_ , andmake upgrade i think it will upgrade apt-get12:23
coreymon77hopefully ill be back soon on my normal system12:24
stephan22222_Mena: apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:24
blizzzekjarn: my pals downstream is not in full use, mine upstream is not either.12:24
jarnblizzzek: ?12:24
Mena_stephan22222_ , no use the lst i give you12:24
Mena_stephan22222_ , and after as apdate make upgrade12:25
Mena_stephan22222_ , that should update and upgrade if needed12:25
blizzzekjarn: i cannot imagine what you are pointing at12:25
Mena_stephan22222_ , then your system is working fine12:25
Mena_stephan22222_ , and also a bout xserver-xorg12:26
jarnblizzzek: I want to reverse the sound. So that what normally would come out of the speaker on the left comes out of the one on the right and what normally comes out of the one on the right comes out of the one on the left.12:26
Mena_stephan22222_ , install it12:26
stephan22222_ok, i'm using the list aou gave me12:26
Mena_stephan22222_ , okay12:26
Mena_stephan22222_ , again12:26
Mena_stdin,see this http://rafb.net/p/fBIeb896.html12:27
blizzzekjarn: oops, thats a misunderstanding, i posted my question ans saw you answer and thought that you mean me12:27
jarnblizzzek: I didn't post any answer at all. O.o12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bberyl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:28
stephan22222_Mena_: it's again download some pacakges12:28
blizzzekjarn: ok... try to change the cables to your speakers ;)12:28
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stdinMena_, stephan22222_: tried "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg" yet?12:28
Mena_stephan22222_ , okay its upgrading12:28
jarnblizzzek: I can't. All they have is the single 1/8" jack.12:28
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hawk_where can i go to get help with beryl12:29
Mena_stephan22222_ , i dont think he tried12:29
blizzzekjarn: then on your stereo, the outgoing ones12:29
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stephan22222_stdin: i tried12:29
jarnblizzzek: Both sides are 1/8" connectors.12:30
blizzzekthen i dunno12:30
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stephan22222_Mena_: nothing changed12:31
Mena_stephan22222_ , for what the xsever12:31
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stephan22222_creensaver-gl-extra: Depends: libgl1-mesaor12:32
stephan22222_                                  libgl112:32
stephan22222_                         Depends: libglu1-mesa but it is not going to be installedor12:32
stephan22222_                                  libglu112:32
adydaswell well well12:32
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Mena_stephan22222_ , do alt+ctrl+backspace and then come and try update and then upgrade and we will see12:32
Mena_this will restart12:33
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Mena_and for thsi i thing every thing must go fine12:33
Mena_stdin, right12:33
stephan22222_Mena_: i don't think that i can restart without an working xserver12:33
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stephan22222_Mena_: and i'm working on my box in the office via ssh from at hoem12:34
pgravesI added shortcuts to various applications to my panel at the bottom by right-clicking and doing Add Application to Panel, problem is ALL of the icons in the panel are HUGE, how can I make them smaller without resizing every icon on the system (I just want the panel to be smaller, not the K Menu'12:34
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stephan22222_and via kde remote desktop12:34
Mena_i dont know much a bout  xserver :(12:34
Mena_stdin , what do you think12:35
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KaoticEvilanyone running Beryl?12:35
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prakdoes anyone know of pikdev versions that are compatible with kubuntu edgy?12:35
stdinMena_: maybe try to install it again, with dpkg12:36
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stdinMena_: the deb should be in /var/cache/apt/archives/12:36
Mena_not me stephan12:36
Mena_stephan22222_ , try as he said12:37
stephan22222_stdin: how is the package called?12:37
wimpies I have this dialog running from under adept-updater asking me for a nice value.  I cannot input any value (no textbox).  Clicking on next does not work (no value I presume) and cancel terminates installation12:37
pgravesHow do I add a second toolbar to the bottom of my screen to go right above the panel12:38
stdinstephan22222_: try "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_all.deb"12:38
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Ogistdin: i try that way but it doesn't work12:38
stephan22222_pkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg:12:39
stephan22222_ xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-core; however:12:39
stephan22222_  Package xserver-xorg-core is not installed.12:39
stephan22222_ xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-video-all; however:12:39
stephan22222_  Package xserver-xorg-video-all is not installed.12:39
stephan22222_ xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-input-all; however:12:39
stephan22222_  Package xserver-xorg-input-all is not installed.12:39
stephan22222_ xserver-xorg depends on xkb-data | xkb-data-legacy; however:12:39
stephan22222_  Package xkb-data is not configured yet.12:39
stephan22222_  Package xkb-data-legacy is not installed.12:39
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stdinstephan22222_: now do "sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:40
prakdoes anyone know of pikdev versions that are compatible with kubuntu edgy?12:40
stephan22222_stdin: wow, something is happaning12:40
Mena_heheheh good12:40
stephan22222_stdin, Mena_: it's installing !!12:41
stdinwoot :P12:41
Mena_sorry if we were o around the problem with me heheh12:41
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Mena_i am develop my self with the help of others :)12:42
stephan22222_stdin, Mena_: if this woks, where should i donate some money?12:42
Mena_no money here12:42
Mena_its free support12:43
Mena_or if you wont donate12:43
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Mena_on www.ubuntu.com12:43
Mena_as i guess12:43
KaoticEvil508MB to download for my upgrade :|12:43
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Mena_i dont know ask stdin12:43
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:44
KaoticEvilis anyone here runnin Beryl?12:44
Mena_i dont have one maybe you can send money hhehehehe :D12:44
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Mena_stdin , can he aupgrade to apt edgy12:44
stephan22222_wohoooo, it still installing12:44
stdinMena_: it'll be part of the upgrade12:45
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Mena_we took a bout 2 hours heheh with me :)12:46
Mena_as i guess12:46
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stdinI just remember having to do something like that when I did dapper -> edgy12:47
stdinbut that was ages ago now12:47
Mena_heheh in any way good that its solved12:47
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stephan22222_stdin: coul you explain why  try "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_all.deb"  was the solution12:48
stdinstephan22222_: because it forced dpkg to install the package, which was what it was complaining about before12:49
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stephan22222_stdin: but doing it, thowed a bunch of errors12:49
Mena_stdin , but we did autoclean12:49
Mena_stdin , how it diidnt removed12:49
Mena_stdin , bec of error12:50
Mena_stdin , in way  it didnt removed  :)12:50
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stdinthe errors after the dpkg command were just dependency errors, apt-get -f install fixed that, before the package wasn't installed right, with dpkg, it got reinstalled12:51
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Mena_ohhhh ok12:51
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stephan22222_no (here in germany it's 1 AM) i'll take a shower12:53
stephan22222_thanks guys12:53
Mena_stephan22222_ , if you need some tips if you need take this i memorizes some tips are good12:53
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Mena_stephan22222_ ,12:54
Mena_sudo apt-get install app12:54
Mena_sudo apt-get remove app12:54
Mena_To update your Sources12:54
Mena_sudo apt-get update12:54
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ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:55
stdinapt guide ^^ :)12:55
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Menaoppppps sorry12:56
Menai wantedt to paste the link12:56
Mena:( sorry :(12:56
Mena:( :( :(12:56
Menathat was a big mistake12:57
Menastdin, sorry12:57
Menai wil go now12:57
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stdinyou're just lucky Jucato isn't here :P12:58
Menaohhhhhh yes12:58
Menai didint mean that12:58
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Menai forget to take the lnk instead12:58
Menastephan22222_, http://rafb.net/p/qeUXWm10.html12:58
Menastephan22222_, sorry :(12:58
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Menabye freiend and sorry for spam :(12:59
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computerhermitvbox works great01:00
stdinyeah, it's cool01:00
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computerhermitxp crashed in it already01:01
stdinwow, it must be as good as the real thing then :P01:01
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stephan22222_Mena: that one is cool01:05
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pgravesSorry... had to sneeze01:10
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ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:11
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:11
Tudorphilwhich one is better google earth or microsoft thingy?01:12
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SolidSourceany good DVD player programs out there besides LinDVD, Mplayer, or Kaffeine?01:14
Tudorphilvlc player01:15
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SolidSourceVLC no good either01:17
BluesKajKaffeine works for me01:18
NormanNme too01:18
SolidSourcekaffeine sucks, looking for powerdvd alternative01:19
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NormanNtry totem01:19
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BluesKajVLC plays some codecs that the others won't , but I removed it a s a browser plugin cuz it defaults to web windows media and refuses to work01:20
SolidSourcetotem isn't much different from kaffeine01:20
NormanNno lol01:20
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BluesKajmplyer does a decent job as a web content player for windows media01:21
NormanNthen VLC is a good advice I thnk01:23
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stephan22222_Mena: that one is cool01:23
Apallohas anyone installed edgy on an IBM t60?01:23
stephan22222_stdin: but doing it, thowed a bunch of errors01:24
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stephan22222_stdin: it worked, updated finished, thanks01:24
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stdinno problem :)01:25
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coreymon77stdin: are you still there?01:28
coreymon77stdin: well01:28
coreymon77stdin: good news is, i booted01:28
coreymon77stdin: odd news os01:28
coreymon77stdin: when i booted normally, it didnt work, i got the same screen (except the recovering journal bit wasnt there)01:29
coreymon77stdin: then, just for kicks (i doubted it would work). i booted using the recovery mode option for the kernel version in the grub menu01:30
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coreymon77stdin: and it booted in text mode01:30
coreymon77stdin: then i ran kdm, and it worked01:30
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smoze_anyone know anything about making scripts?01:30
stdinhmm, what exactly happened on the normal boot, what didn't work?01:31
stdinsmoze_: depends what you want to do01:31
coreymon77stdin: it gave me the same screen as it did before01:31
coreymon77stdin: i wrote down exactly what it said if you want me to pastebin it01:31
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smoze_well, a simple script that handles files01:32
stdinsmoze_: to do what?01:32
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coreymon77stdin: wait a sec, i just gotta do something, then ill pastebin it01:34
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echosyp!sound | echosyp01:34
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smoze_to use certain program with certain options to open file01:35
SolidSourceok, sucky, the mplayer plugin doesn't work in firefox...01:36
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:36
stdinsmoze_: then you'll just need "program -options $1" in the script, to open the 1st option passed to the script01:36
smoze_ok, thanks01:37
BluesKajmozilla mplayer plugin ?01:37
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stdinsmoze_: you can also ask in #bash for some advanced help01:37
SolidSourceyeah, it not wanting to work, firefox just comes up wanting to install windows media player01:38
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pirothezerowhats the difference between compiz, beryl, and emerald?01:38
smoze_stdin: thanks01:39
BluesKajSolidSource, type 'about:plugins' in the FF address bar01:39
SolidSourceblueskaj, oh its there01:40
stdinpirothezero: emerald is the theme manager for beryl, and beryl has more features then compiz and is easier to install in kubuntu01:40
pirothezerofigured as much thanks01:40
pirothezeroshouldn't have a problme installing beryl on dual display right ?01:41
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SolidSourceBluesKaj: of course, just not working01:41
pirothezerolike it works for two screens atm01:41
BluesKajSolidSource, do you have the vlc plugin there too ?01:41
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stdinpirothezero: don't know, never tried, but I'm sure there's a howto out there somewhere :P01:41
SolidSourceBluesKaj: no, don't have VLC-plugin installed01:41
pirothezeroworth exploring ;> thanks01:41
BluesKajok good , cuz it interferes with wm01:42
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SolidSourceBluesKaj: doesn't even work with konq01:43
BluesKajreally? what site ?01:44
SolidSourcejust trying to watch movie trailors...www.youtube.com works though01:44
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BluesKajyoutube uses flash anyway01:45
ubuntuslt tou le monde01:45
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epimethahoy folks... I can't seem to log in to a mysql database from a remote machine01:47
epimethGRANT ALL PRIVELEGES ON *.* FOR 'myuser'@'%' BLABLABLA01:47
epimethGRANT ALL PRIVELEGES ON *.* FOR 'myuser'@'localhost' BLABLABLA01:47
epimethI did both... I can log in locally, but not remotely01:48
epimethany ideas?01:48
epimethlsof showed that the port is open, btw01:50
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computerhermitwhat kind of files you have in your database?01:50
hawk_how do i change my ip01:50
epimethhawk_: /etc/network/interfaces01:51
epimethits a file that stores network data01:51
epimethalternatively you can use the KNetworkManager01:52
epimethnot sure if its installed in your distro, tho01:52
hawk_ok thanks, but will ifconfig interface set ip work01:52
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epimethshould, but I think thats only a 'right now' solution... not sure if it writes to the interfaces file01:52
epimethin fact, it probably doesn't01:52
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epimethiface eth0 inet static01:53
epimeth        address
epimeth        netmask
epimeth        gateway
hawk_ok thanks, do you know where i can get help for berly from01:53
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:53
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hawk_thank you01:54
epimethbut they only support edgy and up... but if you come to them with feisty they yell at you for using a developmental distro01:54
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hawk_anyone know how to get azureus un firewalled01:55
xosshi.. how do i reset my eth0? using ifconfig?01:56
SolidSourceanyone got firefox (32bit) working with mplayer plugin on AMD64 (newest versions of everything)?01:56
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epimethxoss /etc/init.d/networking restart01:56
epimeththats for all01:56
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epimethifdown eth001:56
epimethifup eth001:57
epimethfor just the one01:57
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coreymon77stdin: you still there?01:57
Malay_LinuxAssalamualaikum w.b.t.01:57
epimethwhat up mena?01:57
Malay_LinuxGood morning01:57
stdincoreymon77: yeah01:57
epimethits 3am if thats what you mean01:57
Menaepimeth, realy here too01:58
epimethwhere you at Mena?01:58
coreymon77stdin: here is what it showed on my screen01:58
hawk_now if i use knetworkmanager will it put these setting in live and not mess up any of my internet programs01:58
K`zanHi folks, tried 6.10 live CD and, unlike 6.08, it doesn't see my wireless card.  6.08 does not provide for WPA-PSK :-( on the live CD, does anyone know of a live CD that does provide for WPA-PSK?  Ancient laptop with too big a drive for linux to handle :-(.01:58
epimethalikum salaam, Malay01:58
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coreymon77it showed that and then stayed there, but my computer was doing something, i could hear it doing something the whole time and the activity light was on01:59
coreymon77stdin: anyways01:59
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coreymon77stdin: im going to go watch tv now01:59
epimethhawk: it disconnects the network and reconnects... wether your programs will die is up to the program01:59
coreymon77stdin: ill be back later01:59
hawk_ok thanks01:59
stdincoreymon77: lol, ok01:59
epimethstdin... you up for a bit of playing with mysql?02:00
epimethcuz I can't get mine to allow remote connections02:00
epimethMena_ ... why the name change?02:00
stdinepimeth: I know more about quantum physics than mysql :P02:00
Mena_bec i regstired with that one02:00
epimethstdin... ironically enough... so do I :-)02:00
epimethso register the other, too... not too dificuly02:01
hawk_how do i use this program it just keeps resting my internet connection and thats all no configration options02:01
Mena_epimeth, no some one else have it or me and i forget the passs02:01
stdincomputerhermit: ??02:01
BluesKajwhat's with the undersores anyway?02:01
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epimethMena: msg nickserv help link02:02
Menaepimeth, okay will see02:02
xossthanks epimeth.. still cant connect my kubuntu box to the net..aahhh02:02
epimethhawk: right-click on the little icon and click on "Static connection"02:03
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hawk_there is no static connection02:03
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echosypi need help with my sound02:03
epimethxoss: whats the cat of /etc/network/interfaces02:03
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epimethhawk: sorry... mine has it... do it manually through /etc/network/interfaces02:04
epimethjust edit the file to what I pasted before, but with your settings02:04
computerhermitstdin I took part in ufology and met some realy smart *nukeler Phyest*02:04
hawk_ok thanks02:04
rob-westim trying to install openttd its a game and i cant find SDL02:04
echosypi have done everything on the ubuntu site to try and fix my sound02:04
echosypand nothing02:05
xossauto loiface lo inet loopback02:05
echosypiv reinstalled alsa02:05
xossauto lo - iface lo inet loopback02:05
epimethxoss: no eth0?02:05
echosypis there a conf file somewhere i might have edited to turn sound off02:05
xossauto eth002:05
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xossiface eth0 inet dhcp02:05
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BluesKajcomputerhermit, you have to quit listening to "coasttocoast AM " on the radio02:05
epimethand its not picking up a dhcp server?02:05
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epimethxoss: $dhclient eth002:06
epimethwhats the output?02:06
xossyep.. the XPs can connect to the router but my kubuntu box cant02:06
computerhermitBluesKaj its been a min or two02:06
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epimethanybody have experience setting up a mysql server?  I've never had this problem before :-(02:07
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epimethand I've set up more than enough of them!!02:07
echosypim still having sound problems mena02:07
echosypand this ip is banned from #ubuntu too!02:07
Menaechoyp, hmmm okay02:07
epimethechosyp: what did you do?02:08
piroxanyone using hellanzb and having script exceptions?02:08
echosypbut on the bright side, i removed the user accnt of the guy who got me banned02:08
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Menadid you see this02:08
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:08
echosypyeah, i followed that02:08
echosyplast option was to reinstall alsa, which i did02:08
echosypand it still doesn't work02:08
epimethare your speakers plugged in? :-p02:08
echosypits a laptop02:08
echosypso yes02:08
Menaechosyp, i realy dont know much02:08
echosypits cool02:09
echosypsomeone will... eventually02:09
xossepimeth: no working leases in persistent database - sleeping02:09
Menathe speakers inside the laptop right :)02:09
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echosypheh, yeah02:09
Menaso i gues it works02:09
echosypi can reboot to windows and it works, but when i reinstalled alsa it removed gdm so i had to reinstall that to02:09
Menath eproblem then with ubuntu02:09
Malay_LinuxI am using Kopete at Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft...02:09
epimethxoss: and you are connecting through a router with your current machine?02:10
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echosypand now, i get some blinking pale blue screen when i reboot/halt/logout/suspend02:10
echosypand its pin stripped02:10
xossyes, im connected through a router...02:10
Menaechosyp, what do you renistalled02:10
epimethwith dhcp?02:11
epimethare you sure you don't have mac address filtering set up?02:11
echosypxoss, try setting a static ip and pinging the router02:11
epimethyou sure the network cable isn't broken?02:11
xosson the router none..02:11
rob-westrob@rob-desktop:~/Downloads/openttd-0.5.0-source$ ./configure02:11
rob-westMakefile:201: *** You need to have SDL installed in order to run OpenTTD on UNIX. Use DEDICATED if you want to compile a CLI based server.  Stop.02:11
rob-westsomeone help02:11
echosypinstall SDL02:11
Menaechosyp, did you renistalled xp or ubuntu02:11
xossi'll try..02:12
epimethlol @ mena... pale blue screen hehe02:12
Menaechosyp, ok02:12
echosypjust alsa, its associated packages, and gdm02:12
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katbrand new to kubuntu. does anyone know where sshd is? /etc/init.d/sshd isnt there02:13
echosypapt-get insall ssh02:13
katnot there by default02:13
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Mena_echosyp, Do you know what is sound card02:16
Mena_echosyp, ok02:17
xossdestination host unreachable..02:17
echosypthats with a static ip?02:18
xossthis pc and my kubuntu box is on the same network router..02:18
echosypare you sure your cable isn't bad/unplugged02:18
echosypor is this wireless02:18
epimethxoss: I *told* you to check the cable :-p02:18
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echosypmaybe you set the static ip to a diff. subnet02:19
echosypwhat router is it?02:19
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echosypor rather, make sure you set your static ip to the same subnet as the router, make sure the cable is good and plugged in,02:19
redI need ATI/nvidia display drivers02:20
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echosypand if that doesn't do it, make sure the router isn't set to just give out one dhcp lease02:20
epimethred: which is it?02:20
epimethxoss: and that mac filtering isn't on02:20
redati radeon x1300 is what my card is02:20
xosssurecom router.. ive already tried it yesterday.. fiddled a bit with the router.. then now my XPs can connect by kubuntu cant..02:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:20
epimethxoss: your XPs thru dhcp?02:21
K`zanThanks anyhow folks.02:21
xossyes, same config as yesterday..02:21
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xossautomatic IP for XPs02:21
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echosypxoss, what interface is it?02:22
echosypdo you have another cable you can try?02:22
echosypthats my initial assumption02:22
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xosshmm.. guys its ok now.. thanks for the help.. damn cables!02:22
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echosypit was the cable?02:23
xossstupid me!02:23
echosypit happens to us all02:23
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epimethand its always the last thing we check02:23
xossswapped cables with another guys pc.. now he has gets the problem lol02:23
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epimethcuz "make sure computer is plugged in" is #10 on the ole' checklist :-002:23
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echosypi wish my sound worked02:25
K`zanwish my wireless card worked with the live cd :-).02:25
echosypwhy doesn't it?02:25
echosypor is that why you are here?02:25
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K`zanDunno, 6.08 worked but didn't have the wpa-psk facility, 6.10 doesn't even see it.02:26
K`zanDownloading knoppix now :-(.02:26
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echosyplspci doesn't show it?02:26
K`zanprobably does, didn't check.02:26
echosypi have the same issue with a pcmcia card with prism3 ssf chipset02:26
epimethsomehow I get the feeling that edgy would have better wireless support than knoppix....02:27
echosypbut the backtrack live cd works with the card02:27
piroxanyone know if you have to remove the load glx module out of xorg.conf for berly/xserver-xgl?02:27
K`zanif that is so I'm stuck with wincrap :-(.02:27
echosyppirox, what card do you have?02:27
echosypyou don't usually have to02:27
echosypK`zan its a security suite live cd02:28
epimethwhy don't you install kubuntu instead of just using the livecd... you can download the drivers manually... I had to do it that way, myself02:28
piroxgeforce 680002:28
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piroxjust installed the xerver-xgl02:28
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piroxand i read some where that you have to remove glx but its not on the howto i am following now02:28
piroxso i was curious if that was a if then do this else forget about it02:28
echosypyou don't need Xgl for nvidia cards02:28
piroxwell dammit02:29
echosypXgl is for ati cards, (usually)02:29
epimethand #kubuntu-effects02:29
echosypid go with #beryl02:29
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piroxfollowing the guide at http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL02:30
piroxand its like doesnt say anything about nvidia cards02:30
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K`zanwhere does one find this "backtrack" google isn't helping :-(?02:30
echosypthats because you are in the Xgl section02:30
echosypone sec02:30
epimethgoogle backtrack linux distro maybe?02:31
piroxi am back on the howto from the forusm for nvidia02:31
K`zanepimeth: will try that, thanks.02:31
piroxi did apt-get --purge remove xserver-xgl and now did nvidia-glx02:31
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echosypK`zan google "rexploit"02:31
echosypor remote-exploit.org02:32
echosypi think02:32
epimethbbl guys...02:32
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piroxthanks the script is all i need echosyp02:33
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Menaechosyp, get any thing :)02:34
piroxya theres a kubuntu install script02:34
Menaechosyp, ok02:34
echosypiv been helping02:34
piroxlooks like its doing the job02:34
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epimeth|awayhay! how do I get nickserv to identify a nick as the master... its got it backwards!02:34
Menaechosyp, ok see agian if you didnt02:34
Menaechosyp, never mind :)02:35
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pgravesGuys, with virtual desktops, can you make it so that your windows in the panel do not extend to other virtual desktops?02:35
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pgravesI.E. If I open firefox in Desktop #1, I won't see it in Desktop #202:36
Jucatopgraves: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"02:36
Menaright click on desktop then Configuredesktop02:36
epimeth|awaymsg nickserv help unlink02:36
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Menapgraves, Configure Desktop>>>behavior>>>remove the selected for the first option02:37
adydas__Berlys not as hard to install as i was under the imp[ression of02:37
epimeth|awayaha!  the correct nick is master now! muahahaha02:37
epimeth|awayand now I'm really going away :-)02:38
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epimeth|awayadydas__ ... try it with an nVidia GeForce 2 MX 40002:38
epimeth|awaythen we'll talk :-)02:38
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adydas__ah, well02:38
adydas__it was fine for my 7900GT02:38
epimeth|awaysure... a new card works! :-p02:39
xosshow do set my desktop icons smaller?02:39
epimeth|awaynewish anyway02:39
pgravesThanks Guys!!!02:40
pgravesSo Far Im loving my new Kubuntu Workstation I setup02:40
epimeth|awayxoss: system settings->appearance->Icons02:40
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epimeth|awayand now I'm really really going... nobody say anything till I'm gone damnit!02:41
NeXHi there02:41
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pgravesMy job normally involves accessing a web-based software, going through e-mail, coding, managing Windows Servers (Via RDP), Migrating Data/Databases, & handling client phone calls/appearances....02:42
epimeth|awaybtw, mena... mena is registered... just link the two together under mena_ with its password02:42
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pgravesSo I've been tweaking my system to make the perfect setup02:42
NeXI'm looking for an installation guide or something to install and configure my Inventel usb wifi node on Kubuntu02:42
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Mena_epimehlaways, ok02:42
Mena_epimehlaways, i am trying :)02:42
xossthnx epimeth|away!02:43
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pgravesg2g.... Thanks again everyone02:43
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Mena_epimehlaways, so i must be Mena02:44
Mena_epimehlaways, then link to Mena_02:44
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crackheadquestion: where can i find a master list of all the kubuntu repositories in the world?02:45
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fiyawerxhey guys, how can i get a list of partitions not mounted?02:46
Menacrackkhead, i dont think you can but you can creat02:46
Menacrackkhead,  your owen one02:46
Menacrackkhead,  but carfully02:46
megavolt_fiyawerx: there is a tool called kwikdisk, i used it some time ago02:46
prakis there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?02:47
Archonif i 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' with a totally minimalistic ubuntu installation, will it also give me that nice kubuntu startup screen?02:47
Menafiyawerx, you can know wis you partition editro if you want to use it02:47
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crackheadmena: where is there at least a substantial list of kubuntu repos in the world?02:48
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:50
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NeXI'm looking for an installation guide or something to install and configure my Inventel usb wifi node on Kubuntu02:50
NeXanyone an idea ?02:50
ubotusdcc: Small Device C Compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.0-4 (edgy), package size 1108 kB, installed size 2804 kB02:51
Jucatocrackhead: the only repositories that are officially supported are the ones in sources.list, the one from canoncial, and the one from kubuntu.org02:51
prakis there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?02:51
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crackheadjucato: are there other "useful" and "popular" repositories, even if they're not supported?02:52
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megavolt_where does (k)ubuntu put its java VMs ?02:52
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crackheadjucato: will those repos give me access to all the tens of thousands of programs i read about being such a big attraction to the kubuntu/related distro?02:53
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Menacrackhead, this lst for all repo but for edgy bonlu if you cant creat you own one bec this my lst and its enable most supportted repo as i guess  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8166/02:53
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Menajuacto, you may also check it02:54
prakis there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?02:54
Menajuacto, i mean to see if it was correct02:54
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cj_szehi Cyco02:56
cj_szehi Mena02:56
cj_szehi to all02:57
jarnHow do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?02:57
mom_hi and why is this on my system?02:57
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Jucatocrackhead: the official repositories alone hold over 20,000 packages02:58
Jucato!away > epimeth|away02:58
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prakis there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?02:59
ComputerHermitlol mom02:59
Jucatoepimeth: please turn off your public away messages02:59
prakin particular, installing sdcc nightly snapshots instead of release versions?03:00
epimethjucato... okay03:00
JucatoMena: looks ok. except for the beryl repos. those are the official ubuntu repos03:00
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epimethbut why?03:00
crackheadwhat exactly are the beryl repos?03:00
epimethI just screwed up trying to figured out how to be "back"03:00
apalloi can't get the sound working on my t6003:00
epimethmom_ what is what?03:00
Cycodeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main (BERYL REPO)03:01
apalloi already looked on the wiki and it says that the sound should work out of the box03:01
Menacrackhead, For Program Called Beryl To make your Desktop on 3D03:01
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Mena!beryl  | crackhead03:01
ubotucrackhead: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:01
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Dasnipahey is there an easy way to find the console command to run a program you have gotten via the package menu? im sshed in so i dont have access to my K-menu03:02
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Cycodasnipa try man -k keyword03:02
crackheaddoes anyone know how to make sure kubuntu is taking full advantage of a dual-core amd?03:03
Cycoor type the first letter and hit tab till you get a completion of commands03:03
MenaDasnipa, you can just type the Apps name and it will open up if you mean that03:03
DasnipaMena, not always true03:04
MenaDasnipa, ok03:04
DasnipaMena, in this case im looking for the command to run pouetchess03:04
epimethnice! I didn't know man had a directory!  apropos is sweet ^.^03:04
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MenaDasnipa, i dont know it :)03:05
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Cycohas anyone setup a test environment with KVM - - > do you know the extensions that your processor must meet in order to have acceptable speed03:05
MenaDasnipa, heheh :)03:05
katanyone know how to su?03:05
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epimeththere there03:05
DasnipaMena, i found it... it actually uses capitalizations pouetChess03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sodoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:05
apallomy sound isn't working...for no reason that i can fathom03:05
MenaDasnipa, ok03:05
katyeah, i know about sudo. can i su?03:06
Menaapallo, it worked befor03:06
apallousing a different laptop03:06
Cycosudo -i to become root kat03:06
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epimethsu = 'switch user' its part of the linux core03:06
apalloi just installed edgy and the sound isn't working03:06
Menaapallo, check the kmixer03:07
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Menaapallo, and type kmixer03:07
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Menanot kmixer03:07
epimethdamn... learn something every day... I didn't know about sudo -i03:07
apalloi think it might be crashed, just a sec03:07
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katno sound?03:07
epimethI just sudo passwd as the first thing I do :-)03:08
katdo you have onboard sound as well as a sound card?03:08
apallook, got it up03:08
Menaapallo, see if it was muted03:08
apallonot muted03:08
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apallothat was the first thing i checked :)03:08
Menaapallo, or enable any other option03:08
Menahmm ok03:09
Menaapallo, did you chech the help page03:09
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:09
katapallo: do you have onboard sound as well as a sound card?03:09
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Menaapallo, ok bec i dont have much inf mybe some one other wil hlep03:09
apallojust onboard03:09
katis it seen in alsamixer?03:10
surgytrue or false...... kubuntu finds its roots in gentoo as well as debian ?03:10
Jucatowhat's the prize?03:10
katthere is nothing gentoo about ubuntu03:10
Cycorc-config delete cupsd (gentoo) sysv-rc-conf (ubuntu) -->NO03:11
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adydas_kat: Yes you can if you really want to go SU03:11
katgentoo would be: rc-update del cupd default03:12
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Cycohaha thnx kat - -previous worked on some sabayon though!03:12
kati dont know how03:12
echosypfix my sound!03:13
katwe didnt put it in sabayon03:13
Menajucato , may help you echo03:13
Menaheheh :)03:13
Jucatosorry, not a sound person03:13
Menaheheheh O.o03:13
katwhats wrong with your sound?03:14
Cycoanyone have the new nvidia 680i boards out with 6600 intel chip?03:14
echosypit doesn't work, but it looks like it should03:14
katdoes it show in alsa?03:14
Cycoechosyp you do?03:14
apalloecho, are you on a t60?03:14
katis it muted in alsa (M below the level)03:14
echosypiv reinstalled alsa too03:14
epimethCyco: new board?  whats that?03:14
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echosypcyco, no i wasn't talking to you03:15
epimethI haven't seen one of those in 6 years03:15
echosypapallo, no im not on a t6003:15
echosypi have an atiixp03:15
apallooh, heh, i am having the same problem...my sound isn't working03:15
Cycohttp://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/22/680i_motherboard_comparison_part_2/ picking one up seeing if anyone has any problems since its so new03:15
Menalaptops problem whooohaaa03:15
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ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs03:16
CShadowRunis there a place with a list of all the software that comes free with ubuntu?03:16
epimethCyco... somehow I get the feeling that it will work, just not fully supported just yet03:16
epimethCShadowRun: www.ubuntu.com03:16
Cycothats my guess too03:16
katComputerHermit: amarok is the only one you need to knwo ;)03:16
echosypi bet amarok is bloated03:17
epimethyes!!!! Adept has been fixed!!! w00t!!!!03:17
katamarok owns all other player03:17
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epimethdon't get me wrong... aptitude is great... but this is a *desktop* not a *server*... go gui!03:17
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epimethkat: my amarok refuses to populate playlists... the only thing I can listen to is the stupid default message03:18
infocrashkat yes it does, i just configured amarok to work with my friend's archos 60403:18
katand it autodetects my ipods03:18
echosypso, anyone know what i could try to get my sound working03:18
katfetched album covers03:19
epimethapallo: you ever tried to use apt-get to search?  cuz that ones a killer :-)03:19
katand i use a mysql database to manage everything03:19
katwhich is fast03:19
MenaEchosyp, go to the help or post on froums03:19
epimethamarok connects to mysql?03:19
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jarnHow do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?03:19
echosypi got it03:19
Mena!orums | Echosyp03:19
katunmute it?03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about orums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
infocrashepimeth are your songs on a windows partitions?03:20
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echosypkat... yeah03:20
kati told you earlier03:20
echosypi tried03:20
epimethyou're kidding, right? amarok can't open songs on ntfs partitions?03:20
echosypi had to use alsamixer03:20
katsure it can03:20
katthats what i told you, echosyp03:20
MenaLaptops Sound problem Solved O.o03:20
echosypi didn't realize it was still muted when i turned it up03:20
epimeth#2 on todays "forgot to plug it in" category03:21
infocrashi think i amaroc had an issue with smb, but ubuntu by default sets windows partitons to root vieable only03:21
epimethinfocrash: its not smb... its mounted03:21
epimethits on a local machine03:21
echosypspeaking of03:22
katplus read only is fine to play music03:22
echosyphow can i set a partition to mount not as read only03:22
echosypi want ot be able to write to my windows partitoin03:22
infocrashepimethon: a windows partiton?03:22
epimethntfs, yes03:22
echosypi use windows for skool03:22
echosypand i still can't spell03:22
epimethand whats with adding "on" to my name? :-p03:22
infocrashcan you go into the partition as a regular user?03:23
epimethinfocrash: yup03:23
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Menaif you like reading go here03:23
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katwhat is the apt-get command to update system?03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about permisions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:23
epimethapt-get dist-upgrade03:23
epimethand then apt-get upgrade03:23
infocrashdoes amarok give you any type of errors?03:23
epimethbut first you run an apt-get update to update your sources03:24
kati have been a gentoo'r for years. my first time really playing with a debian system03:24
epimethinfocrash: nope... it just freezes up03:24
epimethkat: what made you switch?03:24
epimethinfocrash: actually... freezes up isn't the right word.  I can still use it... it just doesn't load anything to the playlist03:25
echosypbut i can't write to it03:25
echosypor are oyu not talking to me03:25
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katroot@kat-desktop:~# apt-get upgrade03:25
katE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:25
katE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:25
katsry didnt knoqw it would paste that much03:25
kati'm not switching03:25
epimethgets stuck at Populating Playlst ("100%" )03:25
kati am setting up kubuntu for my wife, Kat03:25
katepimeth: add 10 albums at a time. it is a problem qith sqlite03:26
echosypso, how do i change the permissions mounted file systems so that i can write to them03:26
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echosyplag is bad03:26
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epimethkat: one song... and I don't appreciate your sarcasm, buddy!03:26
epimethyou wanna take it outside?03:26
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kat10 albums at a time is reasonable03:27
epimethyes... but I'm trying only one03:27
katechosyp: i dont know how ubuntu deals with ntfs, but i use ntfs-fuse03:27
kati dunno if it is in the ubuntu kernel03:28
katyou guys may use ntfs-3g03:28
epimethkat: is adept open?  do you have aptitude open in a different console?03:28
infocrashepimeth try opening amarok from a terminal and then try to pupulate the playlist03:28
katepimeth: no03:28
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:28
infocrashepimeth see if it gives you any error messges03:28
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epimethkat: try restarting your machine... much easier than trying to find all the locks03:29
kati got it03:29
katit was running in background for some reason03:30
epimethamarok uses ruby?  niiiice03:30
katps aux | grep apt03:30
katthat found it03:30
katoh, i am fully upgraded03:30
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Menaont to maek your screen saver as amarok when playing somthing go here or for Fsamarok www.kde-look.org :P03:31
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epimethX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16703:31
epimeth  Major opcode:  14403:31
epimeth  Minor opcode:  303:31
epimeth  Resource id:  0x003:31
epimethFailed to open device03:31
epimeththis appears 4 times03:31
katthats fine03:31
epimethI don't doubt that :-)03:31
katthat isnt a bad error03:31
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ComputerHermityes kat because this is what I have03:32
kathold on a sec, i am going back over to my computer.03:32
ComputerHermitheheh more then 4 time I got majior sound issues03:32
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epimethbut did that prevent amarok from loading a song?03:33
jarnHow do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?03:33
ComputerHermitcanyou upgrade with apt-get upgrade?03:33
epimethcuz xmms works fine03:33
infocrashepimeth sorry i meant run amarokapp03:33
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infocrashthat will dump errors onto your terminal03:33
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automan<--- kat03:34
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bonbonthejonwhat is the irc command to set you back from away03:34
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|PrinCo|#projectoX la nueva sala en espaol para ayuda sobre temas relacionados con windows y linux ;) todo los temas/probemas sera solucionados03:35
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epimethamarok is stuck now... kill didn't kill it!!!03:36
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infocrashx it03:36
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epimeththere... killed the wrong process03:37
master_okay, looks like its working03:37
master_just installed kubuntu03:37
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master_first time linux user03:37
epimethbonbonthejon: /back03:37
ComputerHermitapt-get upgrade dident dump error's in my Term03:37
iberthi! I miss the menu in konqueror suddenly. How can I get it back?03:37
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bonbonthejonepimeth: thanks, i thought it was doing /away with no message03:38
master_i saw the cool 3d desktop on the Mandiva site, how can i do that in KDE for Kubuntu?03:38
bonbonthejonibert: try control-m03:38
epimethbonbonthejon: thats to set you as "away" with no message :-)03:38
MenaMaster_, you can use Beryl03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about betyl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
ibertbonbonthejon: thanx! thats it!03:38
epimeththo I made the same mistake not half an hour ago...03:38
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:38
apallogrrr, still no sound03:38
master_cool, i'll go there now03:39
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MenaMaster_, ok03:39
epimethinfocrash: so far no errors03:39
epimethbesides the one I showed you03:39
epimethI'll try populating the playlist now03:39
master_so far this kicks windows a$$03:40
epimeththis time I got a popup saying "No MP3 support" but I can't click on "yes" to install mp3 support...03:40
epimethand tehre are no errors in my console03:40
epimethit totally froze up... I killed it03:41
bonbonthejonepimeth: that x error you had is common, dont worry about that03:41
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epimethbonbon: what x error?03:42
epimethinfocrash: should I install the amarok-engines package?03:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:43
bonbonthejonepimeth: the x erro: baddevice03:43
epimethI know03:43
epimethI was just letting infocrash know what the output I was getting was03:43
ComputerHermitwhat is the most supported sound card for this03:44
infocrashwell did you install that script to enable mp3 support?03:44
epimethinfocrash which script?03:44
epimethxmms plays my mp3s03:44
infocrashon kubuntu amarok prompts you with a script to install mp3 support03:45
epimethSHOW ME!!!!!!03:45
megavolt_when i rightclick on my desktop -> configure -> behavior -> device icons   i uncheck "show device icons" but still the icons for usb drives / CDs pop up as soon as i connect them / insert them - why ?03:45
infocrashhold, it did forme when i first tried to play an mp303:46
apalloit seems that kubuntu doesn't support my audio chipset03:46
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megavolt_checking "sho device icons" and manually unchecking the one for e.g. empty dvd doesnt change anything, the device icon for empty dvd still is on the desktop if i insert an empty dvd03:46
stdinfeature of kubuntu edgy+03:47
chadis there a simple wireless manager I can add to my panel or desktop?03:47
epimethchad: KNetworkManager03:47
chaddo I just install that from synaptic?03:48
epimethinfocrash: I told you... it popped up but I couldn't click on it03:48
bonbonthejonchad: there are a few ways to install it03:48
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB03:48
apallochad: sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager03:48
chadah okay...just do that from a terminal?03:48
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dariodelapuentehello people03:49
infocrashepimeth did you tryed hitting the space bar? to press it?03:49
infocrashalso did you installed the xine engine?03:49
crackheadquestion: what are the best codec packages to dl/install for being able to play all the non-included/possibly proprietary formats?03:49
epimethI tried to click, it didn't click, I switched back to Konversation to let you know this, when I tried to switch back, the windows were totally white (as in frozen)03:49
chadthanks apallo!03:49
dariodelapuentehey howto install ati propietary drivers in kubuntu feisty???03:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:50
stdincrackhead: probably w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs is all you'll need03:50
infocrashepimeth can you just copy one mp3 to your home directory and point amarok to it so it will give you the prompt? and allow you ro run the script?03:50
crackheadstdin: are those the package names? i cant find w32codecs03:50
stdindariodelapuente: Feisty question on #ubuntu+1 , but you should just be able to follow the Edgy guide03:50
epimethhmmm...why isn't ntfs-configuration-tool not working?03:51
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stdincrackhead: this is how you install it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs03:51
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dariodelapuenteok thanks for your info03:52
TomSwiftanyone know about problems with ipv6 and ubuntu?03:52
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv403:52
TomSwiftor about:blank in firefox?03:52
epimethTomSwift: none afaik03:52
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aptget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:53
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:53
bonbonthejon!ipv6 | TomSwift03:53
ubotuTomSwift: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv403:53
epimethgreat... now amarok doesn't even run anymore03:53
bonbonthejonepimeth: open adept and try to reinstall it03:53
bonbonthejonepimeth: see if that fixes it03:54
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infocrashepimeth see if its in running int the background03:55
infocrashuse ps -ef |grep amarok03:56
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bonbonthejoninfocrash: i was just going to say that03:56
crackheadquestion: how does one ensure kubuntu is taking maximum advantage of a dual core amd chip?03:56
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fyrmedicWhat kernel module should I install to get my wireless network adapter working?03:57
stdincrackhead: have the -generic kernel ?03:58
crackheadfyrmedic, the kernel module may not make a big difference. a lot aren't supported. you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper or acx or other workarounds. read up on 'em.03:58
crackheadstdin: yeah, generic.03:58
epimethkio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-leroy/klauncherYIbPnb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-leroy/amarokxzlhrc.slave-socket03:58
epimethdoes this mean anything to you guys?03:58
stdincrackhead: then it is03:59
crackheadthen it is what?03:59
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fyrmediccrackhead; thanx. I just bought a notebook and am about to do an install. Was hoping it would be easy.03:59
stdincrackhead: [02:56]  <crackhead> question: how does one ensure kubuntu is taking maximum advantage of a dual core amd chip?03:59
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stdincrackhead: with the -generic kernel, it is03:59
apalloi have done everything on those sites, and still my sound isn't working03:59
crackheadoh.. gotcha..03:59
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crackheadquestion: what's the best way to run windows apps on the kubuntu platform?04:00
Hirvinen!wine | crackhead04:00
ubotucrackhead: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:00
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epimethbrb folks04:01
bonbonthejonfyrmedic: it depends on the wireless chipset04:01
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bonbonthejoncrackhead: either wine, or vmware04:01
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes04:01
stdincrackhead: you can also use a virtual machine, like VMware, Qemu, or VirtualBox04:02
fyrmedicbonbonthejon;  I am still trying to figure that one out. Does GemTek sound familiar? I know that in stupid Vista it uses a Broadcom driver.04:03
bonbonthejonfyrmedic: broadcom is the chipset, you can use ndiswrapper04:03
apalloi think i am going to go back to windows04:03
apallobye all04:03
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Hirvinencrackhead: In case your application doesn't work with Wine, then there's commercial Crossover Office and Cedega, which use partially the same code base, the latter being almost completely gaming-oriented. If even those don't work, then there are solutions for running a full-blown Windows installation under a virtual machine such as free Xen or proprietary(though beer-free) VMWare.04:04
ComputerHermiti use virtualbox it works fine for me04:04
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fyrmedicbonbonthejon; SWEET!!!!!!!!  Do you know if that is on the Edgy install?04:05
HirvinenFor full virtualization solutions, there are a lot of alternatives. See Wikipedia for feature comparisons between them.04:05
bonbonthejon!ndiswrapper | fyrmedic04:05
ubotufyrmedic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:05
bonbonthejonfyrmedic: there is also a bcm43xx or something, I never used it though04:06
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fyrmedicbonbonthejon: Thanks for your help and time.04:06
epimeththat popup isn't appearing anymore04:06
epimethis there a manual way to get mp3 support in amarok04:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:07
epimethHirvinen... that *really* wasn't the question04:07
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Hirvinenepimeth: Umm, what exactly do you mean by a manual way?04:08
crackheadhirvinen: what do you recommend for running programs like ms office, quickbooks, etc.?04:08
bonbonthejonepimeth: what engine are you using04:08
crackhead(of the various options you outlined)04:08
bonbonthejoncrackhead: use open office instead of ms office, there are other programs for quickbooks04:08
stdinepimeth: amarok uses the xine engine, and mp3 support is in libxine-extracodecs04:08
crackheadare they better?04:08
crackheadi keep opening ms word docs with openoffice, and the formatting is all messed up.. it didnt display the formatting or page setups properly..04:09
bonbonthejoncrackhead: openoffice is great, the options for quickbooks are not as advanced04:09
Hirvinencrackhead: I recommend OpenOffice.org 2 and GNUCash.04:09
epimethamarok-xine is installed04:09
bonbonthejonepimeth: what about libxine-extracodecs04:09
epimethshould I nope04:09
epimethshould I install?04:09
bonbonthejonepimeth: thats what allows mp3 play back04:10
crackheadhirvinen: why does openoffice 2 (which im running now) not display the formatting and page setup correctly for ms word-created docs?04:10
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epimethcrackhead: wine04:10
Hirvinencrackhead: But if you *must* use MS Office or other office / utility type programs, then Wine, and failing that, Crossover Office, and failing that, a full virtual machine.04:10
bonbonthejoncrackhead: word does weird formatting, openoffie uses XML which is more flexible and forward-compatible04:11
epimethproblem is, xover aint free :-)04:11
crackheadhirvinen: which would you recommend for the few tasks I listed? will wine be sufficient, do you think?04:11
muru  I need help...   why do grub menu.lst shows 2 kernels - 1 for vmlinuz-2.6.15-28-386  and the other for vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-38604:11
crackheadbonbonthejon: is there any module or program to translate all old .doc programs into the newest xml form?04:11
crackhead.doc documents i mean04:12
jarnHow do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?04:12
SolidSourcemplayer plugin not working in swiftfox (firefox 32bit) 2.0.2 in AMD64, have reinstalled plugin and even manually installed. about:plugins doesn't show mplayer, yet all files are where they are supposed to be. anyone know?04:12
Hirvinencrackhead: Because MS Office's formats are proprietary, trying to get full compatibility in OOo or anything else is guesswork, and the compatibility is not perfect(yet.)04:12
epimethjarn: you put the left speaker on the right and the right speaker on the left :-)04:12
epimethshort of that, I don't have a clue04:12
jarnepimeth: Thanks. :P04:12
stdinmuru: because you have 2 kernels installed04:13
Hirvinencrackhead: Unless you use some very fancy Excel scripts, you should be able to get them to work with Open Office at least with a bit of work.04:13
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muru... do i need the old version kernel??.. which is more stable??04:13
BluesKajSolidSource, does mplayer sow in FF?04:13
Hirvinencrackhead: I haven't used GnuCash or Quickbook but I've heard that the former is something of a clone of the latter.04:14
SolidSourceBluesKaj: ...said no04:14
stdinmuru: you don't *need* it, but it won't do any harm having it04:14
bonbonthejoncrackhead: i have kmymoney, its pretty good04:14
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epimethany quicken clones?04:15
master_<--- returnes04:15
master_omg, that was so easy04:15
master_and it rocks04:15
crackheaddo you guys know that wine will def. support msoffice and quickbooks, for instance, or should i just skip to a full virtual machine?04:15
master_<-- just installed beryl04:15
muru .. can i just comment out those lines in my menu.lst?? or is it better to leave it ..just in case for Plan B booting??04:15
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crackheadmaster_: how do you like beryl? does it make a big difference? lots of snazzy features?04:16
epimethcrackhead: try it out.  I haven't used wine in years, but I was able to get office working in the past04:16
stdincrackhead: depends on the versions, you can ask in #winehq tho04:16
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master_lots of snazzy features04:16
master_thats for sure04:16
HirvinenSorry, got confused with the names. GnuCash is similar to Quicken, not (necessarily, I don't *know*) to Quickbooks.04:16
apalloi figured out my sound problem04:16
master_3d cube to switch desktops04:16
master_very impressive04:16
stdinmuru: you can keep it if you want, or remove the package to get rid of it04:16
apalloaparently the sound on the T60's is run through the modem :|04:16
master_kicks vista's a$$04:16
epimethoohhhhh kmymoney looks pretty04:17
epimethgonna go with that04:17
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:17
BluesKajSolidSource, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php04:17
epimethI prefer to use nothing starting with "g" :-)04:17
n8k99epimeth: and it's functional too!04:17
stdinmuru: if you want to get rid of it, just search for "linux-image-2.6.15-26-386" in adept, and uninstall it04:17
epimethn8... where the hell did you come from?04:17
master_where can i get the widgets like yahoo widgets?04:17
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bonbonthejonmaster_: superkaramba04:18
epimethstdin: shouldn't apt-get autoremove delete them as well?04:18
crackheadquestion: what are the best latex packages to install for doing documents, presentations, etc.? anyone have recommendations for installing latex?04:18
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bonbonthejonepimeth: so im not the only one who prefers k- to g-04:18
Hirvinencrackhead: I'd very much recommend moving to OpenOffice and GnuCash formats to avoid vendor dependence.04:18
stdinepimeth: 2.6.15-26-386 is dapper, and autoremove isn't in dappers apt04:18
SolidSourceBluesKaj: already tried manually doing it04:18
master_found superkaramba, is it the best one?04:18
epimethstdin: right... didn't know that :-)04:18
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stdinepimeth: live and learn :P04:19
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crackheadyeah, i will for newly created documents, but still using older legacy documents, i am already a little vendor dependent until i no longer need those docs..04:19
bonbonthejonmaster_: with superkaramba you can install widgets04:19
epimethevery day, mate... every day :-)04:19
bonbonthejonhi ren_04:19
epimethcrackhead: openoffice should read the old docs as well... maybe a bit of formatting will be off, but nothing that will really bother you04:19
BluesKajSolidSource, but it doesn't show up in about:plugins, right ?04:19
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crackheadepimeth: right, the formatting is off. it's not exact. there are a lot of formatting issues which are troublesome for right now, just using oo all the time.. that's why i was asking, really. :)04:20
crackheadwhat about latex? anyone have recommendations?04:21
epimethamarok working!04:21
epimethweird static sound04:21
HoondieHey people.. How can I stop ubuntu from looking for a lease on my wireless (eth1) interface at bootup? It's slowing things down a bit04:21
epimethhmmm... static stopped04:22
epimethamarok works!04:22
epimethcheers guys04:22
epimethI thought feisty was supposed to have something that automatically downloads codecs for you?04:23
epimethmaybe the package isn't installed.... anyone know what it is?04:23
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infocrashdont know, i use automatix2 for edgy04:25
SolidSourceepimeth: it doesn't automatically install the codecs, you still have to basically click "yes" to install them04:25
epimethright... but what is the package?04:25
SolidSourceepimeth: also ubuntu-resticted package will take care of most04:26
bonbonthejonautomatix isnt suggested, it caused problems in the past with people going dapper-->eddgy04:26
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master_so... found superkaramba04:26
master_looks like there's no installer04:27
master_i'm new to the linus thing04:27
master_looks like i have to make the installer, huh04:27
master_compile and all that04:27
magezkubuntu rocks \,,/04:27
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org04:27
master_yah but to actualy install V04:27
bonbonthejonmaster_: no, there should be a package in adept, then you have a way to get themes or widgets04:28
master_ahh- i'll look in adept, didnt try there04:28
bonbonthejonmaster_: look in adept first for packages04:28
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master_adept keeps quitting on me04:31
master_thats the second time!04:31
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master_and if I search for superkaramba nothing comes up04:31
vontuxis anyone in here having trouble with their "gnomebaker" for burning dvds?04:32
BluesKajSolidSource, kdesu konqueror /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ...check if the mplayer plugin*.so files are there04:32
SolidSourcethey are there04:32
bonbonthejonmaster_: ok, thats weird, try running "sudo apt-get install superkaramba" in konsole04:32
stdinmaster_: it's in the Universe repo04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
SolidSourcemaster_: have you uncommented the universe and multiverse backport repos?04:33
bonbonthejonepimeth: what are you trying to do04:33
bonbonthejon!source-o-matic | master_04:33
ubotumaster_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:33
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epimethbonbonthejon: just wondering if kubuntu has a howto for the dhcp client04:34
epimethHoondie was asking04:34
bonbonthejonepimeth: not that i know of04:34
epimethbut he's gone now04:34
epimethso I'll open the man page instead04:34
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vontuxso, does anyone know how to get "gnomebaker" to burn dvds?04:35
bonbonthejonvontux: try k3b instrad of gnomebaker04:35
stdinvontux: why not use k3b ?04:35
BluesKajSolidSource, well that's as much help as I know how to give ...  :(04:35
lorderunionHi. I've got a weird problem where at random times in the day my Kubuntu installation kicks me out of my session and sends me back to login.04:35
epimethactually.. now that I think of it... KNetMan isn't connecting automatically... maybe I have to change my dhclinet.conf?04:36
vontuxbonbthejon, stdin: I may end up doing so ;however, the help is for a non-internet connected machine of ubuntu w/ gnome on it that I wish to use occassionally to make dvd backups so I don't care if it doesn't have kde and I figured gnome baker is a quicker install04:36
stdinvontux: better to ask in #ubuntu then04:37
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vontuxstdin: ok, thx04:37
bonbonthejonepimeth: I think you need to take out most of the stuff in dhclient04:37
master_okay, figured out how to add the Universe to Adept...pretty cool04:37
master_this is NOTHING like Windows.... ;)04:37
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stdinthank got it's not04:37
master_okay, now where to get the widgets again?04:37
bonbonthejonmaster_: did you install superkaramba, open it, right click on its icon, there should be an option04:38
SolidSourceBluesKaj: fixed04:38
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SolidSourceBluesKaj: for the most part04:39
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BluesKajgeezuz ..it takes windows ppl a while to ease themselves off the eyecandy ...04:39
epimethanybody know anything about hebrew font support in the filesystem?04:39
epimethboth console and xorg?04:39
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BluesKajSolidSource, glad to hear it ...not all sites work with FF in my experience either , but usually konq will if i really need to see it .04:40
master_uhhh- yeah, i think it just froze on me04:40
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bonbonthejonmaster_: what froze04:40
razor__i have a few questions about getting my olympus d-395 camera to work04:41
master_i dloaded the glassmonitor04:41
master_and when i clicked add to desktop nothing happened04:41
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master_but the superkaramba themes winodw is unresponsive04:42
apallowhat was the beryl repo again?04:42
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crackheadquestion: what are the best pacakges/apps to use with latex to make creating/editing/compiling files/docs made with it easier?04:42
SolidSourceBluesKaj: the for most part only meant that its showing in about:plugins ...still isn't playing04:42
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master_never mind, it's working now04:43
master_i had to close the themes window first....04:43
epimethhow do I install / change my kde theme?04:43
razor__i am currently running Kde 3.5.504:44
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antsI was porting an encrypted root initscript from edgy to feisty (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem), I tripped up on /dev/sda not being available when the script was run04:44
BluesKajSolidSource, could you copy and paste the about:plugins page to : www.pastebin.ca04:44
ineptthis is fskng pitiful. at least it should come with java runtimes available04:44
antsI modified it by adding while ! [[ -e /dev/sda ] ] ; do sleep 1; done, which did the trick04:45
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antsbut it seems somehow wrong04:45
bonbonthejonepimeth: kde-look.org has stuff04:45
epimethhow do I install, not where do I find.. I'm *at* kde-look :-)04:45
ineptfirst time kubuntu user04:46
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bonbonthejonepimeth: there should be a page of how to04:46
bonbonthejonhi besid04:46
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antsany way, my questions are that is there a better way to wait for the hdd to become available?04:47
epimethnvm.. found it04:47
antsand is there a way to prompt for a passphrase from the bootsplash?04:47
master_damn, did I mention THIS ROCKS!!?04:47
master_goodbye Microsoft04:48
epimethmaster_ welcome to the wonderful world of GPL04:48
bonbonthejonmaster_: i hope you are not a gamer04:48
master_nice to be here04:48
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master_<-- not a gamer04:48
epimethbonbonthejon: don't disilusion the newbie!04:48
epimethshame on you04:48
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master_why, no games?04:48
razor__inept: same here first time user04:48
master_what about WINE?04:48
inepta whole bunch of better ways if you expext to have linux work out of the box bon04:48
BluesKajanother canuck joins the Linux community...welcome master :004:49
JeremiahGriffinI've got a Kubuntu problem. I'm not sure what topic it would be, but here's the problem: the Gnome theme feature isn't working. Is this KDE-specific or does it has something to do with Kubuntu?04:49
epimethmaster_: wine allows using windows dlls on a linux system.  unfortunatelly that isn't enough to run directx dlls04:49
razor__windows finally pissed me off enough i wanted to get away from being a gateswhore04:49
master_i c04:49
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master_what about VM?04:49
JucatoJeremiahGriffin: Kubuntu uses KDE, not GNOME.04:49
epimethso a few years ago someone developed winex, which was a direct-x layer for wine04:49
JeremiahGriffinYes, I know.04:49
antswell, some games somewhat work under Wine04:50
epimethits called something else now, I don't remember04:50
teacherdo you know game irc server04:50
epimethants: yea... solitaire :-)04:50
ineptme to razor but this sucks04:50
JucatoJeremiahGriffin: so that "GNOME feature thingy" will probably not work. unless you specify what that is exactly04:50
antsDirectX games04:50
bonbonthejonmaster_: if you want you could run a vm, but it better be a fast computer04:50
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razor__inept: so far i have help from a friend. making it much easier to convert04:50
epimethwinex is named something else now... don't remember what.  but it allows you to play most of the popular games available on the market these days04:50
JeremiahGriffinK Menu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Styles and Fonts -> GTK Styles04:50
epimethunfortunatelly it costs a bit of $04:50
stdinFrozen Bubble is the BEST game ever04:50
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epimethI think its, what guys? 5 bucks a month?04:51
master_AMD 5200+ 64x2, thats about as fast as it gets these days04:51
epimethsomething like that...04:51
bonbonthejonstdin: here, here04:51
epimethmaster_: so you must be positively flying04:51
SolidSourceBluesKaj: alright....got it to, just had to create the /usr/bin mplayer link04:51
stdinbonbonthejon: you have version 2 yet?04:52
antsWine has seen lots of Direct3D development lately04:52
ineptbought this CD and had to figure out how to install firefox and java dont even work04:52
master_Nvidia x7000 also04:52
BluesKajrighton SolidSource :)04:52
master_yes, flying along....04:52
crackheadquestion: is there any installed kde theme package with kubuntu, or is that something to dl/install additionally?04:52
JeremiahGriffinBtw...I'm using the kubuntu-desktop package with Ubuntu/Gnome. In case that has anything to do with it.04:52
master_2GB Ram, OCZ04:52
bonbonthejonstdin: i dont have it installed on the laptop yet, shocking04:52
stdincrackhead: themes are east to install, and there is a guide04:52
razor__inept: you have to download the java file then work it from there.. apt-get doesn't work for it.04:53
stdinbonbonthejon: it's in feisty, but there is a dapper and edgy repo too04:53
inepti have sen KDE before but this isant even close04:53
epimethjeremiahGriffin: you are using KDE, not Gnome.04:53
JeremiahGriffinYes, I know.04:53
stdin!changethemes | crackhead04:53
ubotucrackhead: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu04:53
epimeththats why gnome themes aren't working04:53
teacherstdin: what is difference between KDE and GNOME04:53
JeremiahGriffinSystem Settings has an option for them :-\04:53
stdinbonbonthejon: "deb http://mirror.randumb.org/darkmagez/repo edgy-darkmagez games " (replace edgy with dapper for dapper)04:54
epimethteacher: they are two different fronts for x-org.  x-org is responsible for showing you the graphical interface you are using right now04:54
bonbonthejonstdin: im in feisty04:54
stdinteacher: Gnome is for dumb people :P04:54
ineptyou mean this CD i bought does not even have the JAVA runtimes on it??04:54
epimethKDE and Gnome are two different systems for showing the taskbar, system tray, icons, etc04:54
stdinbonbonthejon: ah, then it's just an apt-get away :P04:54
bonbonthejonstdin: downloading right now04:55
razor__inept: you BOUGHT this??  ubuntu sent me a free copy04:55
BluesKajgnome is preferred by longtime linux users as opposed to KDE which appeals more to former windoze ppl due it's more gatesian appearance :)04:55
epimethfrozen bubble?  what's that?04:55
BluesKajbut I prefer KDE04:55
stdinbonbonthejon: new network support, lan and internet :)04:55
ineptisant the world od 56k dialup wonderfull!04:55
teacheris there only graphic difference?04:55
n8k99people prefer what they want/like04:56
bonbonthejonteacher: no, there are structural differences04:56
razor__inept: ouch i actually downloaded the updated version of Kubuntu.. about 20 minutes04:56
BluesKajmostly, teacher04:56
teacherepimeth : is there only graphic difference?04:56
razor__dial up is insane04:56
master_I'm gonna try www.virtualbox.org04:56
stdinepimeth: it a game, this is the website http://www.frozen-bubble.org/ but it's in the repos04:56
ineptwhy the hell should i buy a CD if i have to DL stuff04:56
razor__inept: why 'buy' ... this is FREE04:56
bonbonthejonstdin: awesome, i made an arcade machine, i have FB on it, i should upgrade so i can play against the laptop04:56
nonuda_i see one error while trying to install an app using adept manager, how to reinstall it again?04:56
BluesKajgraphical/structural , who cares KDE is easier to use04:56
bonbonthejonnonuda_: adept has an option to reinstall04:57
bonbonthejonBluesKaj: here here04:57
SolidSourceinept: just download the install disc, thats all you need really04:57
ineptwell my CD wasent free razor04:57
epimethteacher: pretty much.  some of the libraries for displaying the windows are different, but I don't think there remain any big difference between them.  a few years ago you would probably have had problems running gnome apps in kde and vice versa, but lately I haven't had any problems04:57
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stdininept: you didn't go to http://shipit.kubuntu.org/ ?04:57
razor__inept: that is crazy.. i have 3 cd's ubuntu sent to me FREE.. sorry to hear you got ripped04:57
bonbonthejonepimeth: there are differences, but now its possible to have both qt and gtk+ installed04:58
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epimethBluesKaj: I disagree, btw... I find that most programmers I know prefer KDE while most designers I know prefer gnome.  nothing to do with the windows lnf04:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:59
epimethbonbonthejon: of course... I was just giving teacher a very basic explanation04:59
teacheri have downloaded firefox, how can I set default web browser04:59
epimethand now you are confusing him with qt and gtk :-)04:59
bonbonthejonteacher: so you can run kde and run gnome applications04:59
BluesKajweel epimeth, that what I was told a few yrs back when i started trying linux distros04:59
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stdinargument ends: KDE rules, Gnome duels04:59
epimethteacher: system settings -> default applications05:00
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BluesKajstdin, drools ... :)  ?05:00
epimethBluesKaj:  its really just a matter of taste... we can argue all night and not get any where :-)05:00
stdinBluesKaj: it's 4am, give a guy a break :P05:01
epimethstdin: did you hear about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?05:01
infocrashto be fair gnome does run faster than kde05:01
stdininfocrash: not true05:01
infocrashbut that will change after kde version 4.005:01
BluesKajyup, epimeth ...agreed , if ya like gnome ...well use it05:01
stdinepimeth: pore guy :P05:01
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razor__be careful with nvidia drivers.. my nvidia doesn't mix well with the drivers for Kubuntu05:01
epimethBluesKaj: gnome? ew... I don't even install any gtk apps unless I absolutely have to05:02
razor__lots of crashes and hangs.. i'm using the default driver now.. no issues05:02
ineptgot it from !cant tell you. it was on distrowatch.com05:02
razor__but i am not able to use dual monitors :( which is very disappointing05:02
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master_ok, need some help with virtual box05:02
epimethstdin: he stayed up all night05:02
epimethstdin: wondering if there really was a dog05:02
BluesKajrazor__, buy an Xbox or PS :)05:02
master_it tells me i need libxalan-c, libxerces-c and version 5 of libstdc++05:02
master_what are those?05:03
razor__i have a PS2.. if that is what you mean05:03
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ineptwell so much for wireless unless i am on my laptop05:03
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epimethinept: whats the problem?05:03
calebepimeth: I just use what works. Personally, I prefer KDE, and I've been using it since I ran SuSE 9.1, way back then. However, I've also got an old machine that is an absolute dog under Kubuntu, yet runs XFCE great.05:03
infocrashi was there when kde and gnome started, i liked gnome better cause the were all up for options and kde was for the new user, some time after version 1.4 gnome thy started restricting people on what features to configure05:03
aricwhat is a good firewall I can use ?05:04
BluesKajgeezers like like me begin to drool at this hr .... sacktime for me ...nite all , take care05:04
stdin!firewall | aric05:04
ubotuaric: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:04
ineptubuntu or kubuntu has a long ways to go befor its rady05:04
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ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:04
epimethcaleb: makes sence... xfce is much much sleeker than kde05:05
epimethinept: ready for what?05:05
razor__now that i have my LCD working fine with Kubuntu i'm more than happy.. and i thought itis past the ready stage?05:06
calebinept: I've been running Kubuntu/Ubuntu since I switched my PowerBook G3 from OS X to Kubuntu Breezy, and I think it's pretty ready for the desktop.05:06
razor__person learning to use it has to be ready ;)05:07
epimeth!ndiswrapper > inept05:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:07
razor__i'm in KDE 3.5.5 is there a much needed reason to update to 3.5.6?05:07
coreymon77inept: do not use ndiswrapper unless you absolutely have to though05:07
stdinrazor__: you don't "need" to, just depends if you *want* to05:08
epimethcoreymon77: seems to me like he does :-)05:08
razor__any new features?05:08
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coreymon77epimeth: are you sure about that?05:08
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razor__i'm a extreme n00b with Kubuntu..05:08
razor__but i'm learning fast..05:09
coreymon77epimeth: because ndiswrapper is not recomended unless absolutely 100% necessary05:09
stdinrazor__: look at the changelog http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php05:09
calebrazor__: 3.5.6 is a little faster, in my experience, under Edgy. There really aren't any new features. However, I'm running Feisty on my primary machine, so I really can't speak from experience, since I'm comparing my Core Duo notebook to my aging Duron-based desktop.05:09
epimethcoreymon77: no... but it certainly saved my ass...05:09
razor__life calls.. don't go anywhere people.. i have questions about getting my camera to work with  digiKam05:10
coreymon77epimeth: same with me, there was a time when i had to use it myself05:10
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calebepimeth: What chipset?05:10
razor__caleb: thanks stdin: thanks05:10
coreymon77epimeth: but gorammit am i happy that i dont have to anymore05:10
inept1. cant su to root. 2 no java runtime from purchased CD. 3 sucks for wireless and Kububtu doesent even have basic wireless support05:10
epimethummm... shit... don't remember.  its a linksys wpm54g05:10
KaoticEvilanyone have a minute to help me out?05:10
coreymon77epimethmy wireless card cucked on me05:10
calcmandanCan anyone recommend a good package that will create iso's from music cd's? I'm looking to back up my current collection.05:10
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: why not convert them to OGG or MP3?05:11
epimethcoreymon77: I needed ndis for dapper... edgy and feisty worked out of box05:11
coreymon77epimeth: so when i got a new one, i purposfuly searched for one with an atheros chipset05:11
razor__inept: sudo bash05:11
KaoticEvilwould be a lot smaller to store05:11
calcmandani already do have them all in ogg.05:11
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calcmandanbut would like to have an image backed up.05:11
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KaoticEvilah... k3b should be able to do that05:11
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coreymon77epimeth: i dont know about yours though, i thought  linksys wireless cards used ralink chipsets05:11
calcmandanikaoticevil: i already tried that05:11
coreymon77and those dont need ndis05:11
LL_Hakaisouwhat took me several hours yesterday just took me ten minutes05:11
bonbonthejoninept: you have to set a root password to su05:11
stdincalcmandan: K3B should to it, or dd05:11
calebinept: My brand-new Toshiba Satellite A105-S4002 has perfect wireless support under Dapper, Edgy and Feisty. And so does my stepdad's Thinkpad and my grandpa's Satellite, as well.05:12
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:12
calebIntel ipw3945 chipset on mine, though.05:12
epimethcoreymon: I ended up downloading the windows drivers and loading them through ndis... worked immediately05:12
calcmandanstdin: i usually use k3b to rip. but it only gives encoder types to choose from, but no image. i tried to do an image and it produced a load of wav files.05:12
bonbonthejoncalcmandan: there is a package called mkiso or something05:13
stdincalcmandan: use the Copy CD feature, then choose to only make a image05:13
calebinept: su is, to me, insecure compared to sudo, but that is just my paranoia speaking. Do as little as root as possible...05:13
teacher__stdin: i want to install firefox05:13
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: did you try a clone copy with only Create Image selected?05:13
orient2000k9copy for iso05:13
bonbonthejoncaleb: i agree05:13
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:13
calebteacher__: sudo aptitude install firefox, or open Adept and install the firefox package from there.05:13
KaajaviAid with Ismod. I do not speak English05:13
crackheadanyone know why, in the kde menu editor, i see a submenu topic, such as "games", and then when i click the k-menu on the panel, and i see all the other submenus, i dont see the games submenu displayed?05:13
epimethummm... remind me how to install themes again?05:13
stdinteacher__: install it with Adept, or Add/Remove Programs05:13
ineptgeeeeeee razor i hae done set the name in konsole for the unix name change so i can login as root finaly. ubuntu doesent want you to even let you su05:13
calcmandanorient2000: i thought k9copy was a dvd ripper.05:13
coreymon77Kaajavi: what language do you speak05:13
bonbonthejoncrackhead: you must not have any games installed05:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:14
crackheadbonbonthejon: good call ha :)05:14
epimethcrackhead: cuz you don't have any games installed05:14
coreymon77Kaajavi: go there05:14
razor__inept: man you are crazy for paying for it.. no wonder you're having a bad experience05:14
KaoticEvilanyone know how i can get KDM to start on boot?05:14
SolidSourcecrackhead: menu editor will show all the base menus, you have to have something in that submenu for it to actually show05:14
KaoticEvilafter i installed the binary nvidia drivers, it no longer starts. i have to login at a TTY and startx manually05:15
KaajaviI did not find answer05:15
orient2000k9copy is for backup05:15
epimethKaajavi: me hablo un poco05:15
bonbonthejonKaoticEvil: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"05:15
Kaajavipodes ir a privado?05:15
epimeth*yo hablo un poco :-)05:15
calcmandanorient2000: i just tried k9copy and it won't read my music cd.05:15
calebKaoticEvil: I had this issue with the NVidia binaries on my desktop machine. It's something to do with the xorg.conf.md5sum being missing when the NVidia drivers are installed.05:16
calcmandanorient2000: i use that software all the time to rip my dvd's.05:16
ineptdam caps lock is in the wrong plse05:16
crackheadsolidsource: yeah, so i discovered. the submenus looked as if they were themselves games.. ha. i didnt realize.05:16
razor__i use k3b for dvd copies and such05:16
coreymon77Kaajavi: if you are in this channel, please speak english05:16
calebinept: Which is a security hole. However, if one really wants to do so, you can set a root password if you wish.05:16
bonbonthejoninept: to set root password "sudo passwd root", but its not advised05:17
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crackheadbonbonthejon: why is setting a root password not advised?05:17
KaoticEvilbonbonthejon: all that does is drop me to a blank screen...05:17
Kaajaviexcuses, I am going to speak slowly05:18
orient2000I do not see any rip option in k9copy. It is starange. You mean you use it to rip DVD into avi or something?05:18
bonbonthejoncrackhead: usually root is not enabled, you have to use your user password05:18
KaoticEvilbonbonthejon: is that because im already in K?05:18
stdininept: what's wrong with "sudo -i" for logging in as root, and "kdesu konqueror" for a file manager ?05:18
crackheadwhy have root if it's not enabled?05:18
bonbonthejonKaoticEvil: it should ask you if you want to use kdm or, if installed, gdm05:18
coreymon77crackhead: because you can always get to it in an instant05:18
KaoticEvilit didnt05:18
crackheadi enabled mine and set the pwd. i thought it was necessary for the superuser use, but then i found out about sudo05:18
SolidSourceorient2000: it doesn't actually say "rip", what k9copy does is allow you to rip it into an ISO and I think its divX05:19
coreymon77crackhead: and whats the point of remembering 2 pwrods05:19
KaoticEvilit just said "Reloading K Display Manager configuration"05:19
stdininept: told ya how to login as root05:19
LL_Hakaisouthere is way too much yelling in this thread05:19
crackheadyeah, so i figured.. i dont really know.. haha.. just thought it was a necessary *nix thing05:19
coreymon77inept: NEVER LOG IN AS ROOT05:19
coreymon77inept: USE SUDO05:19
orient2000Divx in not an iso05:19
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coreymon77crackhead: it is05:19
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coreymon77crackhead: *buntu users are just lazy05:20
SolidSourceorient2000: ok, no DivX option, but allows to rip to ISO which you can extract the movie from, or play directly from the ISO05:20
teacher__turk insan var mi?05:20
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: have you tried using K3b with the options Clone Copy and Only Create Image selected?05:20
inepti know how to lpgin as root! i allso know how to that at boot05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
razor__k3b is my choice05:20
epimethinept: root login is sudo -i, or you can sudo passwd and then su - with the new password05:20
calcmandanKaoticEvil: yes, it creates two files: .img and .toc05:20
ineptso forget the scurity BS05:20
crackheadcoremon77: so, should i enable or disable the root? is there really a difference except for remembering two pwords, if im using sudo?05:20
KaoticEvilthats your ISO file05:20
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orient2000Rip means compression I thought.05:21
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: k3b can burn those back to a CD-R05:21
coreymon77crackhead: use sudo05:21
SolidSourceorient2000: but to get it to rip just click either click "copy"05:21
epimethcrackhead: there is never a reason to log in as root05:21
KaoticEvilorient2000: no, to rip something means to copy it05:21
coreymon77crackhead: enabling root is jsut asking for trouble05:21
KaoticEvilcompressing is just that...05:21
calcmandanKaoticEvil: yeah, i was hoping to make iso files though.05:21
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coreymon77crackhead: sudo can do anything you would need05:21
inepti knew that a long time ago eph05:21
calcmandanwith k3b05:21
calcmandank3b is my choice.05:21
epimethcrackhead: i use it only because typing sudo a million times annoys me05:21
coreymon77epimeth: sudo -s05:22
inepti want a linux distro for the new user05:22
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: whats the difference between an ISO and an IMG/TOC?05:22
Morbosudo has become second nature to me05:22
stdinepimeth: and sudo -i or sudo -s is too hard ? :P05:22
epimethstdin: you misunderstood05:22
calcmandanKaoticEvil: iso's stand alone, img files go along with .toc files.05:22
epimethstdin: i su - from a konsole05:22
coreymon77epimeth: wow, talk about lazy05:22
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: i know that.. but they serve the same purpose05:22
Morboto the point where if I'm fixing somebody's Windows box, I type sudo05:22
ineptsudo psswd id so hard??05:22
stdinepimeth: I sudo -i from a konsole, but hay, whatever :-)05:23
calcmandanit is my preference.05:23
KaoticEvillol Morbo05:23
bonbonthejonMorbo: do you do ls also in dos05:23
KaajaviMy kubuntu does not recognize the commando ismod, why?05:23
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coreymon77epimeth: sudo -s is too hard?05:23
stdinKaajavi: use modprobe05:23
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SolidSourceorient2000: if you click "create MPEG4" you can rip DVD to AVI05:23
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: i would recommend searching the packages available to you in adept then05:23
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epimethso what was that package for installing kde skins?05:24
calcmandanKaoticEvil: yeah, i came for a good recommendation on preferred software to do the trick.05:24
inepteepim mine does to sometimes. try debian05:24
calcmandanKaoticEvil: and i got some so i'll try them out.05:24
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: have you tried makeisofs ?05:24
coreymon77epimeth: www.kdelook.org05:24
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calebepimeth: I think it's enabled by default, in the old Control Center... do an Alt-F2 and type kcontrol05:24
stdinepimeth: www.kde-look.org05:24
KaoticEvil"mkisofs - Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images"05:24
coreymon77stdin: w/e, wouldnt it jsut autoforward?05:25
Morbobonbonthejon- yeah05:25
ineptkde rocks05:25
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coreymon77inept: i agree05:25
stdincoreymon77: yeah, but I'm being pedantic today :)05:25
coreymon77stdin: no s**t05:25
KaoticEvilcalcmandan: its a command line tool, but you should be able to write a bash script, if you have a large collection...05:25
epimethcaleb: any reason its not in the new cpanel?05:26
ineptkubuntu has a long ways to go to be a KDE desktop05:26
coreymon77epimeth: because they wanted to be annoying05:26
coreymon77inept: its getting there though05:27
razor__is there an apt-get for KDE 3.5.6?05:27
coreymon77inept: defenitely getting there05:27
SolidSourceepimeth: don't think the kubuntu team thinks kdm/splash changing is a good idea05:27
coreymon77razor__: yes05:27
coreymon77razor__: go look on the kubuntu website05:27
ineptthey dont even enable kmenu  in the distro05:27
coreymon77razor__: you will find out all about it05:27
razor__ok.. i'm looking now: thanks05:27
stdinrazor__: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php05:28
stdinrazor__: save you some time there :P05:28
calebinept: Then what is that square button in the bottom left corner of my screen when I boot from the LiveCD and do a clean install?05:28
Kaajaviit was Lsmod nonIsmod!!!!!05:28
epimethSolidSource: is that really all it is? damn05:28
coreymon77stdin: yeesh, he could just fin it him/her self you know05:28
Kaajavithank you05:28
coreymon77stdin: you are really being anal today arent you05:28
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stdincoreymon77: I already had the page open05:29
SolidSourceepimeth: well it can cause problems...though rare05:29
coreymon77stdin: sure...05:29
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KaajaviI am a ignorante05:29
epimethI was hoping for cool icons and stuff... oh well05:29
coreymon77Kaajavi: not really, its either you are ignorant or you are an ignoramus05:29
epimethhay... anyone know how to get hebrew fonts working for the filesystem?05:29
SolidSourceepimeth: you can, just use kcontrol instead05:29
epimethconsole and gui05:30
orient2000SolidSource: I do not see "create MPEG4" in k9copy05:31
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SolidSourceorient2000: its up top, just run your mouse over the icons up there05:32
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orient2000Are you talking about K3b?05:35
razor__it states i need some library requirements.. how am i sure if i have them?05:35
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bonbonthejonrazor__: are you using adept to install?05:35
razor__i started with kde 3.5.5 on kubuntu 6.11? is that a given05:35
razor__wait.. i was going to use apt-get05:36
SolidSourceorient2000: no k9copy, just used it a little bit ago, the icon says "mpeg4" on it05:36
SolidSourceorient2000: its right next to the "dvd" (copy) button05:36
razor__apt-get will get more libraries if needed or just pick from the source.list i have now?05:37
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SolidSourcerazor__: apt-get/adept/aptitude will only get things from the repos in the sources.list05:38
sparri want to 'render' a pdf to an image at a certain DPI...  how?05:38
razor__but if i don't have one of the repos it needs? am i just out of luck or i need to make sure i have them?05:39
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bonbonthejonrazor__: try to install, if you dont have something apt will complain05:39
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SolidSourcerazor__: you update your repo list, or obtain the dependencies manually05:39
LL_Hakaisouwhat is the shell command to run as root?05:40
LL_Hakaisouif there is one05:40
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:40
razor__sudo bash05:40
stdinsudo -i for root shell05:40
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bonbonthejonhi secretary05:41
Jucato!kde | stdin05:41
ubotustdin: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.05:41
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SolidSourcerazor__: but if you use the sources-o-matic, you will have most of all the repos you need !source-o-matic05:41
stdinJucato: fine :P05:41
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bonbonthejonhi suarka05:41
SolidSource!source-o-matic > razor_05:41
Jucatostdin: I didn't want to include a direct link to the announcement because it should also cater to Dapper :)05:42
LL_Hakaisouhow would i give myself permission to access a folder that is root only?05:42
stdinJucato: yeah, I see what you mean05:42
stdinLL_Hakaisou: "sudo -i" will give you a root shell, then you can access anything05:42
LL_Hakaisouinside the GUI?05:43
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: kdesu konqueror05:43
epimethLL_Hakaisou: in the gui you alt+f2 then "kdesu *appname*"05:43
stdinLL_Hakaisou: ahh, no, you have to start the app as root, with kdesu05:43
LL_Hakaisouok then, i completely forgot about that05:43
epimethkdesu = sudo for the gui05:43
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SolidSourceJucato: that would be too simple05:44
stdinwell, you know who to ask05:44
Jucatoer... that's the point...05:44
SolidSourceI know thats the point...but they want to have some fun05:45
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razor__i am SO lucky to have a friend who is a linux nerd05:45
crackheadquestion: how does one know which and where are the proper nvidia drivers to get for his videocard/mobo?05:45
epimethif the ntfs configuration tool doesn't work, how do I install write support for ntfs drives manually?05:46
razor__be careful with the nVidia drivers.. i had bad issues with it05:46
epimethcrackhead: nvidia.com05:46
razor__constant lcok ups05:46
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epimethJucato: cuz kdesu sounds better05:46
crackheadrazor_ which driver did you use, and what turned out to be the fix?05:46
stdin!ntfs-3g | epimeth05:46
ubotuepimeth: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)05:46
SolidSourcecrackhead: well nvidia is nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy....you just need to know what video card you have05:46
epimethstdin: and feisty?05:47
crackheadi think it's geforce 6150.. pretty new..05:47
stdinepimeth: should be no different05:47
razor__the glx but i didn't get a fix i had to reinstall05:47
SolidSource!nvidia > crackhead05:47
SolidSourcecrackhead: then the nvidia-glx package05:47
razor__i'm now NOT using an nVidia driver.. the generic05:47
razor__and works fine05:47
razor__my card is a geforce 5200 FX05:48
razor__i was trying to get dual monitor support to work05:48
crackheaddid it work with the generic?05:48
crackheaddoes it work now? did you just give up?05:48
razor__dual , negative only on one monitor as of now05:48
SolidSourcerazor__: dual monitor support is tricky and not fully supported05:48
razor__i'm almost afraid to plug the 2nd monitor in05:48
razor__i so agree05:49
crackheadhas nayone gotten dual monitor to work with kubuntu??05:49
razor__i had both monitors working but the system would hang up after a few minutes05:49
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SolidSourceI should ask my brother, he has dual monitor running fine...but would be another day05:50
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epimethstdin: if I have ntfs-3g and ntfs-3g0 installed from the feisty depos, should I add the depos from the howto anyway?05:50
razor__at first it worked fine.. but the monitors were in reverse order, i kept mucking with it till nothing worked05:50
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razor__SolidSource: please do find out.. i really miss my 2nd monitor05:51
stdinepimeth: no, don't think you'll need them05:51
razor__i'm upgrading to KDE 3.5.6 right now05:51
SolidSourcerazor__: only thing is, he doesn't run kubuntu05:51
razor__oh. well :(05:51
epimethfound the problem.. the shortcut is gksu instead of kdesu05:51
stdinepimeth: you just specify the filesystem type as ntfs-3g05:52
SolidSourceepimeth: did you install kde on ubuntu?05:52
crackheadsolidsource: what does he run05:52
epimethnope... minimal kubuntu and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:52
akrushello everyone05:52
akruscan anyone help with Card Reader? :)05:52
SolidSourcecrackhead: he has a few computers: a fedora, solaris, windows, and then a couple others05:53
razor__after i get this installed i'll have questions about getting my digital camera working05:53
SolidSourceakrus: what kind of card reader?05:53
crackheadsolidsource: what does he run the dual monitor with05:53
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SolidSourceakrus: USB or built in?05:54
epimethSolidSource: why?05:54
SolidSourcecrackhead: think its the fedora machine...05:54
epimethSolidSource: ohhhh... cuz of gksu?05:54
akrusSolidSource: USB05:54
SolidSourceepimeth: yeah05:54
akrusSolidSource: actually it works, partially...05:54
crackheada google research sesh may be in order on the dual monitoring with kubuntu..05:54
akrusSolidSource: under Windows everything is ok :x05:54
akrus[83617.508000]  attempt to access beyond end of device05:54
akrus[83617.508000]  sdc: rw=0, want=2498373, limit=196761605:54
razor__liar: windows is the devil05:55
SolidSourceakrus: hmm05:55
akruson pocketpc the card is reading ok :(05:55
akrusactually I think that's because of Card05:55
akruscause 512mb one looks okay05:55
akrusbut why does windows & pocketpc work well with it?05:55
akrus(Windows -> VMware)05:56
saw2434Can Anyone help me... I'm having trouble installing kubunutu on my external hard drive. It stops/stalls at the partioning step 505:56
SolidSourceakrus: well it should act just like a USB drive05:56
akrussaw2434: error? :)05:56
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akrusSolidSource: it detects as SD card05:56
akrusSolidSource: then mounts it05:56
akrusSolidSource: but mostly files are not available05:56
SolidSourceakrus: might have a permissions problem05:57
akrusSolidSource: and when copying it does the copying, but then after disconnecting/connecting the card back -> no files05:57
razor__akrus: i have the same issue with my digital camera05:57
akrusrazor__: really? :305:57
razor__it detects it.. just doesn't see the files on the camera05:57
saw2434I dont get an error, It just takes forever. I've waited +40 mins05:57
akrussaw2434: likely HDD problem05:58
akrussaw2434: try using fsck on it05:58
akruswith bad blocks check05:58
epimethanyhoo folks... I'm outa here05:58
epimethgood day to you all!05:58
akrusSolidSource: [83666.860000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 3786079) failed05:58
saw2434Alright, thanks. I'll try that. Is fsck included on the live cd?05:59
razor__:watches the 3.5.6 compile05:59
razor__all done05:59
arici have KDE right now, how do i install Gnome ?05:59
SolidSourceakrus:hmm don't know, haven't run into such issues, I just had a permissions problem when I couldn't get linux to read/write06:00
Jucato!gnome | aric06:00
ubotuaric: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.06:00
akrushm found a solution on ubuntuforums06:00
akruslemme check06:00
razor__reboot time.. be back shortly :)06:00
Jucatoaric: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome06:00
akrus*cries* the same :(06:00
akrussdc: p1 exceeds device capacity :o06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vm-player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
ubotuvmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)06:01
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware06:01
akrusubotu: thanks :)06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
akrusit was saying it's a bot06:01
SolidSourceakrus: LOL...thats cause it is06:02
akrusyeah i know :)06:02
akrusSCSI device sdc: 1967616 512-byte hdwr sectors (1007 MB) !!!06:03
akrusthat's it!06:03
akrusit detects it wrong06:03
akrusit's 2gb card :o06:03
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akrusyeah :(06:04
akruseven formatting does not work :-/06:04
SolidSourceoh...was goin to ask if you were using any kind of encryption on it06:05
nonuda_what is the GUI program for apache?06:05
akrusnonuda_: is there a GUI? o_O06:05
LL_Hakaisouupdating is fun!06:05
akrusnonuda_: for what?06:05
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akrusSolidSource: none06:06
kowaSysinfo for 'Medionux': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 3.06GHz at 2400 MHz (4805 bogomips), HD: 7/53GB, RAM: 437/503MB, 118 proc's, 7.26min up06:06
nonuda_i recently download apache2, but i can't see the program icon in the menu or any documention of it06:07
ubotuapache2-doc: documentation for apache2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2074 kB, installed size 11376 kB06:07
akrusthat's docu for it06:07
akrusor http://httpd.apache.org/06:07
akrusthere won't be any icons, it's running as a service06:07
bonbonthejonnonuda_: apache doesnt have an icon06:07
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akrus /etc/init.d/apache2 status06:07
akrus(is status working?)06:08
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nonuda_let me see...wait06:08
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akrusps ax|grep apache <-- checking if it works :306:09
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nonuda_can't find apache2 status06:09
nonuda_how to see if its running06:09
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akrusps ax|grep apache <-- checking if it works :306:11
akrusSolidSource: it's a kernel problem :(06:11
akrusSolidSource: found on one website~06:11
SolidSourceakrus: haha06:12
akrusSolidSource: 2.6.17 seems to work ok06:12
akrusbut not 2.6.19/2.6.20 :(06:12
akrusso waiting for 2.6.21 in the repository or any patch x_X06:12
SolidSourceakrus: should be fixed by April06:12
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ineptback finaly sine this is the default client on Kububtu :))06:13
akrusSolidSource: omg so long T_T06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:13
akruswell 512m card works welll06:13
akrusbut not 2g06:13
LL_Hakaisouhow do i set firefox as my default browser?06:14
stdinLL_Hakaisou: System Settings -> Default Applications06:15
akrusLL_Hakaisou: kcontrol06:15
HirvinenSystem settings -> KDE components -> Default applications06:15
ineptkubuntu sucks. no java, noinfif for anything. glad i disnt put me sh.... stuff on this06:15
nonuda_akrus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8179/06:15
akrusi have russian version so no idea x)06:15
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akrusinept: java is installable ;P06:15
Jucatosudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser06:15
Jucato!info sun-java6-bin | inept06:15
ubotuinept: sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76680 kB06:15
LL_Hakaisouthank you06:16
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:16
akrusWine 0.9.31 is laggy06:16
akrusso 0.9.30 is the best for now06:16
ineptgeeeeee akrus i bought this disc so you could tell me that?06:16
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akrusinept: that?06:17
SolidSourceinept: go to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy it will take care of most things you need06:17
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:17
ineptguess you get what you pay for :))06:17
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Jucatoyou "bought" the Kubuntu CD?06:17
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akrusJucato: yep, it's sold in many places06:18
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akrusactually there's LinuxCenter which's selling DVDs06:18
akrusfor ~8$06:18
akrus(7 EUR)06:18
JucatoDVD's probably...06:18
akrusCDs are rare thing lol06:18
akrusbut someone was selling them for 5 USD (4 EUR)06:18
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HirvinenJucato: What's wrong with selling (K)Ubuntu cs? Except that USD 8 or EUR 7 is robbery.06:18
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akruslol :)06:19
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akrus6.06.1 LTS is freely available06:19
JucatoHirvinen: nothing's wrong with selling them. buying them... well...06:19
akruscaleb: how much? :)06:19
inepthey!! rthanks guys but since im on 56 dial up like most of the world those links dont mean much06:19
SolidSourcelol Frozentech.com is $3 for a DVD,,,,06:19
akruscaleb: 100 mbps? :)06:19
SolidSourceso what ever is $8...you need to shop around06:19
akruswow dialup <306:19
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akrusSolidSource: but it's delivered within a day06:19
justin__Hey can anyone help me on something? I'm trying to burn a ISO and it fails,06:20
calebakrus: Okay, maybe not too fast, but fast enough. 5 mbps down...06:20
bonbonthejoninept: use shipit06:20
justin__the MD5 checksum is correct,06:20
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akruscaleb: 2mbps/256kbps here :(06:20
inepttry burning it slower justin06:20
justin__and the simulation mode works fine.06:20
HirvinenNot everybody has a fast connection or a cd burner. OR the patience to wait for canonical to ship it. And it even doesn't ship Edgy cds.06:20
SolidSourceakrus: I get mine in a bout 2-5 days...which plenty, but yes you will pay for next day if you want06:20
akrusi have four connections here lol :306:20
justin__I was burning it at 1x.06:20
akrus2048/256 (ADSL), 550/550 (Ethernet), 512/512 (WiFi), 48/12 (GPRS)06:21
justin__I was burning it with K3b06:21
akrusoh, someone from Poland here?06:21
calebakrus: 5 mbps/256... Methinks my ISP likes to choke upstream because of people like me...06:21
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:21
HirvinenIf I didn't have a fast connection, I might well buy a cd for a few euros.06:21
akruscaleb: using torrents too much? ;D06:21
Jucatotrue. buying CD's is best for slow connections...06:21
akrusbut I need english-speaking guys from poland06:21
akrusactually i wanna buy one thing which is sold in poland only06:22
calebakrus: No, but I do have a webserver and a FTP server running 24/7, though the FTP requires login.06:22
akrusbut i need the reliable guy :306:22
Hirvinenakrus: Wouldn't #ubuntu-pl be a good place to find them?06:22
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akruscaleb: ah... 21/80 ports are unaccessible here x_X06:22
akrusISP blocks them06:22
secretarycan i join?06:22
akrusHirvinen: maybe :306:22
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bonbonthejonsecretary: join what06:23
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akrus6.12 Professional?06:23
akruswhat's this???06:23
secretarywith u06:23
bonbonthejonsecretary: yes, you may join me06:23
ineptjustin! think of downloads or burningas diving down the road. if your going 120 MPH your going to see things but if your going 20MPH your gloing to see a lot more detail. ISO's requires a lot of detail OK06:23
prakdoes anyone know what's the name of the kde utility that controls the window and desktop behaviour?06:24
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Jucatoprak: System Settings?06:24
calebprak: Control Center?06:24
HirvinenJucato, caleb: What of those?06:24
JucatoHirvinen: huh?06:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
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wiseKidDoes anybody know how I can install pengaol?06:26
SolidSourceprak: press "alt+f2" and type "kcontrol"06:26
HirvinenJucato, caleb: Whoops, sorry, I somehow missed prak's line entirely.06:26
HirvinenIt's 0726 here and I haven't slept.06:26
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caleb2326 here.06:27
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ineptand kubuntu or ubunto does not work at all on this computer without tweeking06:27
prakJucato and caleb, I can't find it in system settings06:27
epimethI know I left... but I came back, ok?06:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:27
epimethcouldn't drag me away from you guys06:27
prakSolidSource: does "alt+F2" open up konsole?06:27
SolidSourceinept: that happens...but any and all systems need some tweaking06:27
Jucatoprak: what exactly are you looking for?06:27
SolidSourceprak: no06:28
Jucatoprak: Alt+F2 brings up the Run command dialog box06:28
stdinprak: Alt-F2 opens the Run dialogue06:28
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prakchanging the window scheme06:28
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Jucatodialogue? :D06:28
epimethseriously tho... is it possible that ntfs-3g erased my hebrew folders?06:28
ErtainMight anyone know about Wacom tablets?  Udev keeps mistaking my tablet for another mouse.06:28
epimethcuz they are gone06:28
Jucatoprak: window decoration? System Settings -> Appearance06:28
stdinJucato: dialogue = british spelling I suppose06:28
SolidSourcekubuntu control panel sucks!!! Kcontrol is the original and will remain king!06:29
Hirvinen(Why did they remove kcontrol in favor of System settings btw?)06:29
Jucatostdin: dialog != dialogue :D06:29
HirvinenI as well find System Settings to be quite confusing compared to it.06:29
stdinJucato: actually they have the same meaning06:29
Jucatostdin: dialogue is American spelling, too. afaik06:30
Jucatostdin: er no. :)06:30
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Jucatodialog = a program window. :)06:30
troxorusn't dialogue what this is?06:30
epimethtroxor: nope... dialogue is a conversation between two or more people06:30
stdinJucato: the root of the word, but let's not get -offtopic :P06:30
troxorepimeth: haha, touche`06:30
epimethwhy /g?  just once was enough :-p06:31
HirvinenAnd some things I can't find there at all. Where, for example, can file associations be controlled from System Settings?06:31
SolidSourcedialogue = speaking (usually 2 people) dialog = a type of signal\06:31
bh_How do I get the latest kubuntu package if I'm running etch ?06:31
JucatoHirvinen: in Konqueror already06:31
bh_I seem to be running 3.5.5 and not 3.5.606:31
Jucatobh_: huh? Kubuntu doesn't have etch06:31
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zeekstarrcan anyone shoot me a lis twith a full list of repositories so I can update my list?06:32
calebbh_: Are you sure you don't mean Edgy?06:32
bh_I mean edgy :)06:32
bh_caleb, correct06:32
Jucato!kde | bh_06:32
ubotubh_: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.06:32
bonbonthejon!source-o-matic | zeekstarr06:32
ubotuzeekstarr: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:32
HirvinenJucato: Bah. Doesn't affect Konqueror only, so shouldn't be accessible only there.06:32
JucatoHirvinen: System Settings is meant to be a lightweight KControl alternative, presenting the control modules in more meaningful groups and removing duplicated settings.06:32
JucatoHirvinen: Konqueror is the file manager, and thus has the file associations settings06:32
JucatoHirvinen: it has been in Konqueror since the beginning.06:33
Jucatonot only in Kubuntu but in default KDE as well06:33
bh_Jucato, I'm looking for a specific apt line of some sort06:33
bh_It's kind of hard to find it from the web page06:33
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bh_and all I see is iso images06:33
ineptdoes anyone in charge understand that the world wants KDE and wants it to work out of the box? including the people at kubuntu?06:34
stdinbh_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php06:34
calebbh_: Add this to your sources.list file deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main06:34
Jucatobh_: the announcement for KDE 3.5.6 which stdin gave06:34
HirvinenJucato: But as it affects anything that uses KDE's file associations, which means a lot of non-Konqueror applications, it should be accessible from other places as well, as it is in kcontrol.06:34
epimethYES!!! I had mistyped the locale!! woo hoo!!!!!!06:34
epimethmy music isn't dissapeared06:34
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bh_caleb, thanks06:35
epimethinept: I don't understand... what part of kde didn't work for you oob?06:35
SolidSourceHirvinen: even in windows, the main place to change file associations is in windows explorer (IE)06:35
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epimethinept: you've been complaining since the second you came in here06:35
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prakis anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?06:35
JucatoHirvinen: which, as a *file manager* Konqueror should be controlling. It is the app manages files, no matter what program actually views or opens it. (btw, there are no "Konqueror applications")06:36
ineptepi! alot of KDE does not work in Kubunto06:36
SolidSourceinept: everything works fine06:36
epimethinept: I've heard that from you at least three times already.  can I have a solid answer?06:37
epimethinept: what, *specifically* does not work?06:37
calebinept: sudo aptitude install kde06:37
HirvinenSolidSource: It's there as well, but IIRC is accessible from control panel. But that doesn't change the fact that file associations are global to KDE and not just restricted to Konqueror. If on Windows they aren't accessible from Control Panel, then Windows just fails as well.06:38
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ineptthen solid! i guess you have never run KDE uless some distro har has gave it to you. including konsole06:38
epimethHirvinen: in windows they are accessible from Control Panel06:38
HirvinenJucato: Non-Konqueror == anything that is not Konqueror. Opposite of that is something that is Konqueror.06:38
Jucatoinept: please be more specific in your problems06:39
sparrinept: what specific part of kde isnt working for you in kubuntu?06:39
JucatoHirvinen: there is no "something that is Konqueror" app06:39
epimethinept: again... making vague statements.  what, specifically, did not work out of box?06:39
epimethHirvinen: the only thing that is Konqueror *is* Konqueror06:39
sparrJucato: i would say that Konqueror qualifies as "something that is Konqueror"...06:39
MuJepimeth: isn't that the point?06:39
epimethHirvinen: *everything* else is non-konqueror06:39
Jucatosparr: semantics :)06:39
justin__Okay I ran K3b again and this is really weird,it says the MD5 hash is invalid but before the burn it worked.06:40
Hirvinenepimeth: I don't believe to have said anything else.06:40
HirvinenAnd echo sparr.06:40
JucatoHirvinen: A file manager manages files. it manages how files will behave, be displayed, located, and opened.06:40
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calebinept: I compiled KDE 3.3 from source back when I ran SUSE 9, so I _think_ I can say that Kubuntu does a good job of giving us a good KDE, when comparing to my from-source days...06:40
epimethHirvinen: <Hirvinen> Jucato: But as it affects anything that uses KDE's file associations, which means a lot of non-Konqueror applications, it should be accessible from other places as well, as it is in kcontrol.06:40
justin__I'm just going to run it anyway,see ya.06:41
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Jucatothis is getting offtopic btw06:41
Hirvinenepimeth: That means "applications other than Konqueror."06:41
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SolidSourceinept: I have been using linux for a while, I know konsole...just cause you can't seem to get around something doesn't mean whatever it is sucks, just means you don't know everything about every system...things change, commands change especially between distros....so unless you got specifics, stop complaining06:41
inepti don't have problems! ep unless some distro or want to be distro gives me problems. i understand u nix farly well and bash.06:41
epimethHirvinen: so why didn't you say so in the first place?06:41
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epimethHirvinen: what it seemed like was that you were implying that there were konqueror-apllications as well as non-konqueror apps06:42
antsoh bother for closed source drivers06:42
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JucatoHirvinen: if Konqueror's settings should only affect itself. then KControl's settings should only affect itself too. it shouldn't be able to file associations at all.06:42
epimethinept: so what are you complaining about?06:42
antsmy smartcard reader has drivers for 2.6.1806:42
inept THAT HELPS06:43
inept lol06:43
epimethinept: you said, and I quote, "<inept> epi! alot of KDE does not work in Kubunto"06:43
antsbut those are broken in 2.6.2006:43
LL_Hakaisou!virtual machine06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtual machine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
epimethinept: in other words, something didn't work for you06:43
Jucato!caps | inept06:43
ubotuinept: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:43
LL_Hakaisouthanks, ubotu06:44
Tm_TMuJ: You are.06:44
ineptTHAT IS RIGHT EP06:44
MuJTm_T: I am.. but I admit it :|06:44
epimeth!vmware | LL_Hakaisou06:44
ubotuLL_Hakaisou: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware06:44
HirvinenJucato: I have not said that those settings should not be accessible under Konqueror. I have said that they should be accessible outside of it *in addition* to Konqueror, because they also affect things outside Konqueror.06:44
Tm_Tinept: Cut those caps.06:44
calebLL_Hakaisou: What do you need to know, and under what version of Ubuntu?06:44
epimethinept: what is right? you keep talking in circles!06:44
ineptth! its the nails but i will cut them :))06:44
Tm_THirvinen: File association should be controlled in Konq and in Kcontrol IMO.06:45
antsok, looking at the drivers, they are actually open source, but unfortunately not in the kernel tree, so 2.6.20 workqueue changes broke the code06:45
SolidSourceinept: ok, again, something might not have worked for you, just means you are having a problem and there is probably another way around it....so why not give some specifics of what you are doing and such, then just maybe one of us will know another way to fix the problem06:45
calebLL_Hakaisou: I know that kvm works rather well under Feisty, and is much faster than VMWare, but it's not got a GUI config, and you have to have a processor with virtualization support.06:45
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Tm_THirvinen: And actually it seems to be too.06:46
epimeth!kvm | epimeth06:46
LL_Hakaisoui'm gonna install my copy of Windows XP home as a virtual machine06:46
LL_Hakaisoujust want some info on it06:46
LL_Hakaisoualso, i'm running edgy06:46
LL_Hakaisouunless i don't have to reinstall to update...06:46
LL_Hakaisouwhich was my impression06:47
calebLL_Hakaisou: Edit your sources.conf to say "feisty" where it says "edgy"06:47
akrusJucato: are you here?06:47
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Jucatoakrus: yes?06:47
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calebDo a sudo aptitude update, followed by a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade06:47
HirvinenTm_T: I agree. And they are. But I think that they should be in System Settings as well, at least on Kubuntu, now that Kubuntu has replaced Kcontrol by System Settings in its default installation.06:47
epimethLL_Hakaisou: don't upgrade to feisty06:47
jack_deltrinoi'm installing kubuntu edgy eft now. but i have a linksys wmp11 and no ethernet access to my system06:47
akrusJucato: is it possible to specify the sectors number via mount?06:47
epimethLL_Hakaisou: unless you *really* want to06:47
jack_deltrinoin the installation process, what kernel modules do i need to install to get it to work with network stuff?06:47
Tm_Tcaleb: Don't point LL_Hakaisou to Feisty until it's stable thanks.06:47
Jucatoakrus: er.. sorry don't  really know06:47
epimethLL_Hakaisou: it's still very buggy... stable, but buggy06:47
akrushmm ok :)06:48
Tm_THirvinen: True, hm, that seems to be issue, mind to file a bug?06:48
JucatoTm_T, Hirvinen: it's is not a bug06:48
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: there is a possibility to have a problem if you upgrade distro versions if there are 3rd party apps installed06:48
akruslol new error :)06:48
jack_deltrinoi need to know what i have to do to get ubuntu's installation process to play nice with my linksys wmp1106:48
akrus[87006.728000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdc1)06:48
akrus[87006.728000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)06:48
akrus[87006.728000]      File system has been set read-only06:48
JucatoSystem Settings *is not* KControl.06:48
Tm_TJucato: wish"bug"06:48
jack_deltrinoi hae no network access otherwise06:48
LL_Hakaisouthe only 3rd party app i've got is firefox06:48
jack_deltrinono ethernet, etc.06:48
Tm_TJucato: I still keep saying wish as bugs. ;)06:48
JucatoTm_T: it will only be rejected06:48
calebepimeth: I find it works well, but there are some things that are still in flux with Feisty. However, it's holding up pretty well on my notebook.06:48
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Jucato!pastebin | akrus06:48
ubotuakrus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:48
nobaneI need help configuring my default desktop06:48
LL_Hakaisouand if i lose that it's no big deal, i can just reinstall and restore it06:48
akrusJucato: yep i know06:48
nobaneright now it boots up to the gnome login and I want it to be the KDE login06:49
epimethjack_deltrino: try the livecd first... if it works, it works, if not then try google... doesn't seem like anyone here knows06:49
Tm_TJucato: Atleast it's said, or do you think only "sure cases" should be filed?06:49
HirvinenJucato: Why is it a bad thing for a setting to be in several places? Especially when the setting affects things outside the application where it is most often used?06:49
ineptHakv! this is very bugy but its a start! if you cant handle linux then go back to windows06:49
epimethcaleb: I'm using it, myself, I don't go 4 hours without something crashing06:49
JucatoHirvinen: because System Settings is not KControl. that's the main reason. the 2 apps have different goals, different paths06:49
epimethcaleb: usually adept or konqueror06:49
LL_Hakaisouinept, you talking to me?06:50
Jucatoone strives for simplicity, the other is for power users or old timers06:50
LL_Hakaisoucause i acutally am liking kubuntu06:50
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ineptyes hak06:50
JucatoTm_T: he can try. but I'm saving him the pain of being told again.. :)06:50
Tm_THirvinen: Just file that wish, IMO better to file and get rejected than sit silent in the corner crying.06:50
calebepimeth: That's odd, because I've been running Feisty since Herd 2, and had no problems, except for Adept, and that's not really an issue since I normally use aptitude instead.06:50
fudgeyhas anyone installed beryl on 6.10 with nvidia?06:50
LL_Hakaisoui wanna use a vm of windows to play video files.06:50
epimethis there an op in the room?  I don't think I'm alone in saying inept is bothering people?06:50
LL_Hakaisouis that so horrible?06:50
Tm_TJucato: Oh, there's no pain, I'm sure. ;)06:50
fudgeyif so how did you get nvidia to work?06:50
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bh_aptitude dist-upgrade is being a pain from normal edgy.06:51
ineptgee ep06:51
LL_Hakaisoualso, i'm pretty sure i can't install visual studio in linux06:51
HirvinenJucato: Is it simplicity, that a system wide setting such as file association is not found under a place called system settings?06:51
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prakis anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?06:51
bh_It complains that ktalkd is broken, what's up with that ?06:51
LL_Hakaisouand i need it for a class06:51
epimethcaleb: different hardware, amigo06:51
adydaswhats the package for flash suitable for opera?06:51
nobaneI need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE06:51
JucatoHirvinen: because the file manager should be able to handle that already. and in fact, it already does06:51
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fudgeyhas anyone installed beryl on 6.10 with nvidia?06:51
epimethcaleb: when adept was deemed "fixed" I couldn't run it... yesterday's update finally got it working06:51
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JucatoHirvinen: I do not know why they put it in KControl also in the first place. KControl sometimes duplicates a lot of settings that can already be reached in the proper apps06:52
adydasfudgey: i did today06:52
adydasNvidia 7900GT, Edgy06:52
Hirvinenadydas: The same as for anything else. You just have to select it to be used from Opera -> Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Content -> plugins.06:52
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epimethinept: sorry, buddy, but you are.  I haven't heard you say a single positive or helpful thing since you got here06:52
Jucatofudgey: Kubuntu 6.10, using NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 400006:52
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fudgeyadydas: what should I do when gdm doesnt start?06:53
calebepimeth: Quite true. I was blessed with the perfect Linux notebook when I picked a cheap Toshiba off the rack at Sam's. As I said, I usually use aptitude from Konsole, so I normally don't bother with Adept.06:53
Jucatoinept: drop the caps. final warning06:53
epimethcaleb: toshibas are the perfect linux notebooks06:53
fudgeyI read something about installing the nvidia drivers06:53
adydasfudgey: use this06:53
ineptAND KUBUNTU06:53
adydasworked Mint for me06:53
epimethcaleb: I have two friends who've never had problems running linux on toshibas06:53
adydasjust maek sure u use the KDE part and not like me start it off with the gnome way of it hah06:53
fudgeyberyl disabled my originall nvidia drivers =/06:54
fudgeyso its laggy now06:54
HirvinenJucato: Under System Settings there's a section called Storage Media. Sounds like a file thing to me. Should that be only in Konqueror as well?06:54
fudgeyafter trying to remove beryl06:54
nobaneI need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE06:54
HirvinenOr sound and multimedia only in multimedia applications?06:54
inept now if i am irritating you kubuntu people then build a better distro06:54
calebepimeth: I've never had any problems, either. However, my grandpa's new Toshiba refuses to sleep or hibernate under either Edgy or Feisty. Any possible fixes?06:54
JucatoHirvinen: no, because there's no app that handles KDE Multimedia notifications. please check what the module does first06:54
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nobanesome one!?!?06:55
nobaneI need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE06:55
fudgeyadydas: which method should I use?06:55
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epimethcaleb: sorry man... not a clue06:55
epimethnobane: give me a minute06:55
Jucatoinept: if you want to help build a better distro, give more constructive and definite problems or ideas.don't just rant06:55
inepthell ! my old.. PH refuses to even reboot under kubuntu06:55
xossis there an app in kubuntu that makes it easier to send a file to someone in the net?06:55
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xossive tried using GAIM to send a file to a YM user he didnt get the file...06:56
adydasfudgey: the repos way06:56
adydasi did it06:56
ineptbut i kind of like kubuntu if you figure out how to make it work06:56
adydasi coudl allmost tell you want to do, you get the repo file add the line for beryl projects, add the key apt-get update, apt-get install beryl, beryl manager and like the theme thing and your basically done06:57
calebnobane: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/06:57
adydasfaff with the x11 conf and your done06:57
ineptdoes that bother anyone?06:57
nobanethank you!06:57
calebnobane: Anytime.06:57
inepti need another distro06:58
fudgeythanks a ton!06:58
SolidSourceinept: KDE works in kubuntu just like in any other distro, but yes some commands must change due to the type of system it is....so unless you are going to be reasonable, helpful and constructive.....just please leave..........but no matter, /ignore time06:58
inepti like deb and KDE though :((06:58
LL_Hakaisoui know that you think you are, and possibly may well be, some linux power user06:58
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epimethcaleb: beat me to it!06:59
LL_Hakaisoubut it is my impression that this chat is primarily for people who are new to ubuntu, and your elitest tone isn't all that helpful06:59
HirvinenTm_T: Do you think I should file it as a KDE or Ubuntu bug?06:59
JucatoHirvinen: Ubuntu bug06:59
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: if he was, he would understand that there are differences and things will work different from system to system and thus be reasonable and not just complain07:00
SolidSource/ignore inept07:00
JucatoHirvinen: or wish07:00
fudgeyI got a problem07:00
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ineptgood solid! i am happy you finaly found out what the iggy button is for :)07:00
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fudgeymy update manager doesnt open =/07:00
LL_Hakaisouthat being said07:00
fudgeyit just closes07:00
inepteveryone one should have an achievement07:00
fudgeyberyl really messed up my system =/07:00
LL_Hakaisoustop being an @$$hat, pull your heat out of your @$$, and try to be decent to the other people in the server07:01
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fudgeyhint too all ubuntu users with nvidia!!07:02
calebfudgey: Open Konsole and type "sudo aptitude purge beryl" I believe. w/o quotes, of course.07:02
Jucatofudgey: yep?07:02
LL_Hakaisoufudgey: get ati? XD07:02
ForgeAuswow qt4 designer looks way nicer than qt3 one did... only its alot more Gimp-ified being in separate windows...07:02
fudgeyrepository is not known07:03
fudgeyon line 4307:03
Jucatofudgey: beryl is a hit or miss thing.... it's not that stable to be reliable for everyone07:03
fudgeysources could not be read07:03
SolidSourcefudgey: beryl itself is kind of a mess07:03
fudgeyaw crap07:03
fudgeynow what07:03
JucatoForgeAus: really? I like that :D07:03
fudgeyI gotta reinstall my system07:03
Jucatofudgey: so you're trying to install Beryl, not NVIDIA drivers?07:03
fudgeynah fuck beryl07:03
Jucatoplease watch the language07:04
calebfudgey: type "sudo kate /etc/X11/sources.list" and edit the offending line.07:04
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:04
fudgeyim gonna try fix ubuntu now07:04
Jucatofudgey: ok, so what happened and what is the problem?07:04
adydascaleb: Err07:04
ForgeAusahh nice... well I found the option to switch modes (mdi vs gimpified)07:04
ineptaren'n we all using linux? i mean that is the kernal isant it?07:04
Jucatofudgey: were you trying to install nvidia?07:04
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Jucatofudgey: or were you trying to install beryl?07:04
fudgeyfirst beryl07:04
adydasberyl first07:04
adydasthen do nvidia07:04
adydasfollow that how to07:05
fudgeythen it removed my nvidia drivers and many system files07:05
ForgeAustheres quite a wide range of operating systems that go under the heading of Linux07:05
adydasit worked fine for me first pop07:05
fudgeynow I cant do much07:05
Jucatoadydas: what works for one doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone though...07:05
calebfudgey: The error on line 43 of your sources.conf when you run aptitude or apt-get, right?07:05
epimethso... anyone know how to get hebrew fonts for the filesystem?07:05
LL_Hakaisou!system restore07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about system restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
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adydasJucato: NV + Beryl via the wikipedia site.. it covered a range of situations07:05
ubotu/join #ubuntu-il07:06
Jucatofudgey: try checking what is in the 43rd line of your sources.list07:06
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:06
ineptrealy forge! i thought the kenal maintainer decided what linux kernal was07:06
ForgeAusif you havn't seen it yet this is an intersting site: http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png07:06
LL_Hakaisouis there anyway to create a restore point in linux in case i need to revert back to working settings?07:06
ForgeAusshows a timeline of linux distros... but it is in no way complete07:06
fudgeyhow to edit?07:06
calebfudgey: That command I gave will open your sources.list in Kate, and then you should be able to fix it.07:06
Jucatoinept: Linux is technically the kernel only. A lot of people prefer to call the OS as "Linux" also. period07:06
ineptgues i am to drunk to remember the details07:06
fudgeykate doesnt work07:06
fudgeycommand not found07:07
adydasfudgey: these repos worked for m07:07
adydasdeb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable07:07
adydasdeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main07:07
ForgeAusbtw Jucato remember my debian problrm?07:07
calebfudgey: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:07
epimethdamn... the hebrew works... its just that those folders are in a different encoding than whatever the standard he_IL is07:07
JucatoForgeAus: which one? sorry short term memory :D07:07
ForgeAusthose packages that wanted to break?07:07
ForgeAusbig time depenancy circle?07:07
ForgeAusI fixed it :)07:07
ForgeAusbut in what you'd probably call a bad way07:08
ineptguess if kate doesent work then you you must be running linux with the KDE desktop07:08
JucatoForgeAus: because you added the debian repo?07:08
ForgeAusyup turned out there was a mising dependancy in the edgy repos07:08
fudgey43 line nvidia driver repository07:08
ForgeAusjust one package fixed it :)07:08
ForgeAusso it wasn't broken it just wasn uninstallable07:08
JucatoForgeAus: good. but next time, try not to mix repositories :)07:08
LL_Hakaisoui never knew that red hat was a parent distro07:09
ForgeAusI'll be careful not to overwrite any edgy stuff with debian but I'm not promising not to add debian packages07:09
fudgeywhy would beryl remove the nvidia drivers?07:09
fudgeythats weird07:09
Jucatoinept: please stop talking nonsense. if you are drunk, do not stay here and annoy people07:09
LL_Hakaisoujust ignore him jucato07:09
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JucatoForgeAus: Debian .deb packages are mostly (not everytime) ok, though07:09
LL_Hakaisouthe rest of the channel already has07:09
SolidSourcefudgey: that is good question...but its just more reason to wait for it to become more stable07:09
ineptredhat was aroung a long time before ubunto07:09
JucatoLL_Hakaisou: I'm not allowed to. but I have a better solution if he doesn't stop07:10
fudgeynow im stuck with an unstable system haha07:10
LL_Hakaisouo rly?07:10
ForgeAuswell I was a bit concerned about it seeing as QT in general is an essential component of KDE07:10
Jucatofudgey: perhaps the beryl repository contains a more updated nvidia driver than the one provided by Ubuntu07:10
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JucatoForgeAus: what do you mean?07:10
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daft_how can i use .cgwdtheme files with compiz?07:10
fudgeyso my card is not new enough?07:10
ForgeAusisn't KDE built on the QT toolkit?07:10
fudgeyor the configuration needs to be fixed07:11
calebfudgey: What model do you have?07:11
ForgeAusor is QT built into KDE? (in which case why would one need QT as well?)07:11
JucatoForgeAus: yes. but I don't understand what it had to do w/ Debian repositories? :D07:11
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels07:11
fudgey6600 geforce OC07:11
JucatoForgeAus: KDE needs Qt libs :)07:11
ineptubuntu is kinda like lindows or whatever its called now or the rest of them befor debian that like to claim asosietion07:11
LL_Hakaisouoh ok then07:11
ForgeAusoh I was more concerned about the edgy ones...07:11
Jucatoinept: I'm giving you your final warning07:11
LL_Hakaisoui kinda like KDE though, so i'll stick with this07:11
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JucatoForgeAus: Qt4 is available on Edgy btw. and you can install them side by side w/ Qt307:12
daft_guilt by asosietion eh07:12
ForgeAusyeah thats what I got now07:12
ineptjuc! if you cant handle the truth kick me :)07:12
calebfudgey: That's odd, because I had beryl working with my GeForce 4 MX... I'd try installing the drivers from NVidia's website, first and deleting the line from the sources.conf... Again, this worked for me but it may or may not work for you.07:12
daft_anyone know how to use cgwdtheme files with compiz?07:12
akrusposted a bug report :)07:12
Jucatoinept: I can handle the truth. but you have not done anything but rant and annoy people and have already ignored my warnings07:13
Jucatodaft_: try #ubuntu-effects07:13
SolidSourceJucato: wouldn't Qt4 be backwards compatible with things for Qt3?07:13
akrushttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89138 :307:13
fudgeycaleb does this include compiling?07:13
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fudgeyI have a really hard time compiling =/07:13
JucatoSolidSource: there's a special package for Qt3 compatibility, but technically, no07:13
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Jucato!nvidia | fudgey07:13
ubotufudgey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:13
Jucatofudgey: I think there are instructions there on how to install the NVIDIA driver from nvidia.com07:14
akrusfeisty 7.04 (FROZEN) <-- what does frozen mean?07:14
Jucatofudgey: you basically need a newer driver than the one provided by nvidia-glx07:14
Jucatoakrus: it means that no new (big) features/apps can be added at this point in time07:14
calebfudgey: It's a binary blob installer, so it's all self-contained, IIRC. Just make sure to do a "chmod 755" on the file, because otherwise, it won't run, if my memory serves me correctly.07:14
akrusJucato: ah thanks07:15
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SolidSourceakrus: yep...the next month will be focused on bug fixes to make things stable and workign07:15
fudgeywhat if I have seen an eror relating to the chmod?07:16
MarkCwoohoo, feisty is frozen now!!!07:16
MarkCall bugs are now features :)07:16
fudgeywhich directories should I chmod?07:16
akrusknetworkmanager will be working?! can't believe xD07:16
prakis anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?07:16
akrusUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy) is expected to be released in October 2006. :)07:17
akrusit's like we're going to play yesterday xD07:17
JucatoMarkC: Frozen doesn't mean no bug fixing :D07:17
fudgeybrb im gonna log off root07:17
SolidSourceakrus: I think the more critical thing would be whether external wireless cards and various peripherals would start working or working better07:17
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spitwise_i changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list, but on upgrade it's holding back about 700 packages07:17
akrusoh by the way07:17
akrusWPA not working at all07:17
akruson both of my routers o_O07:17
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Jucato!upgrade | spitwise_07:18
stdin!upgrade | spitwise_07:18
ubotuspitwise_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)07:18
akruscan't connect, always fails~07:18
Jucatostdin: :P07:18
spitwise_tnx Jucato07:18
SolidSourceakrus: yeah, never could get WPA working07:18
stdinohh, just missed it :P07:18
calebfudgey: In Konsole, do an "ls" and you should see a file that looks like "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-96**-pkg1.run" and then chmod that file.07:18
crackheadquestion: what should i do when adept sort of freezes during "preparing" stage of isntallation, after it's downloaded all the files??07:18
ineptrealy junk! i cant log in as my defined user name into Konsole ..because ubuntu dosent do it that wagty, Kubuntu does not include the JAVA runtimes on purcheasd Distros,kububtu decides what i can install from KDE. and Kubuntu only has one channel as defualt on thier default irc chanel?07:18
Jucatocrackhead: what are you installing07:18
inept kick me fskwit07:18
calebThe part that I used the ** for may be different from mine, so that's why I used the placeholders.07:18
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akrusJucato: developer? :x07:19
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crackheadim installing a whole bunch of stuff07:19
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Jucatoakrus: not really :D07:19
akruscheater? :D07:19
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Jucatooperator != developer :D07:20
epimethits like superman07:20
MuJomg wallhax :B07:20
epimethyou take your glasses off for 5 minutes07:20
SolidSourcedid he just say purchased distros? isn't ubuntu 100% free....which means if you buy it, you have had someone else burn the disc for you and mail it to you?07:20
epimethdo what needs doing07:20
Jucatoepimeth: usually less than a minute :D07:20
epimethand go back to a mild-mannered channel dweller07:20
JucatoSolidSource: he bought the CD off somewhere07:20
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SolidSourceJucato: I buy my discs...07:21
duckdownI am trying to watch a video clip in my Firefox but it can't load the application/x-mplayer2 plugin.  How do I fix this?07:21
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SolidSourceJucato: but there is no difference between buying and downloading the disc ISO...except who burns the disc07:21
JucatoSolidSource: yep.07:21
SolidSourceJucato: he must be used to paying for red hat and Mandriva (mandrake)07:22
Magic-Fxhey i've just started using kubuntu and im having some problems with my networking... is anyone available to help me out???07:22
SolidSourcewhat problem?07:22
calebMagic-Fx: And what networking hardware, while we're at it.07:23
epimethspeaking of burning discs... can I change my jigdo file to point to newer versions of packages... that way getting an "up to date" install disc?07:23
Magic-Fxok... let me get started lol07:23
SolidSourceepimeth: ....huh?07:23
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Magic-Fxi have installed kubuntu 6.10 and updated all the packages... i connect to the internet through a router and im having problems with both the internet AND the network07:23
epimethSolidSource: whats misunderstood?07:23
Magic-Fxi THINK its an issue with the DHCP but im not 100% sure07:23
calebMagic-FX: Is it wireless or wired?07:24
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Magic-Fxi am plugged strait into the router; but it is wireless07:24
SolidSourceepimeth: you meaning update your install disc? cause you would generally have to burn a new disc for each version upgrade07:24
epimethafter installing kubuntu, an apt-get update installs updated packages.  I want these on the disc in the first place, no?07:24
Magic-Fxthere is only 1 computer connected through wireless and the other computer is connected directly as is mine.07:24
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epimethSolidSource: no... just burn new ones and trash the old ones07:25
calebMagic-Fx: So it's your wired connection that's having trouble?07:25
SolidSourceepimeth: oh, they are actually stored for the most part07:25
orient2000Hi! Does anybody know why some DVDs do not show any files on it? malformed?07:25
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caleborient2000: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?07:25
SolidSourceepimeth: not sure where, but you can also download load them with an apt-get command to be able to burn them07:25
SolidSourceepimeth: as for a script to do it, don't know exactly07:26
epimethSolidSource: forget it... I'm not even sure of what I'm asking07:26
Magic-Fxcaleb: yeah... sometimes when i open firefox it wont load the page and other times it works fine, which is why im thinking its an issue with the dhcp.07:27
epimethanyway... I *really* have to get some work done... so I'm gonna say "adios"... and not switch to "away" mode this time, right Jucato?07:27
orient2000libdvdcss2 is on a system07:27
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Jucatoepimeth: right :)07:27
Jucatoepimeth: actuallyh07:27
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Jucatoyou can switch to /away. just turn off the public /away message07:27
epimethpsych :-p07:27
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Jucatoepimeth: you were saying?07:28
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calebMagic-Fx: When it doesn't work, what do you usually do to fix the problem?07:28
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Magic-Fxwell... nothing. lol07:28
Magic-Fxsometimes it works sometimes it dont07:28
Magic-Fxi just keep closing it and retrying07:28
fudgeyafter installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?07:28
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calebMagic-Fx: Does it usually occur close to when you wake the system from standby/hibernation or on a clean boot, or does it just pop up out of nowhere, with the machine still running the whole time?07:29
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prakis anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?07:29
Magic-Fxout of nowhere07:29
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calebMagic-Fx: What network card do you have in your machine?07:30
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Magic-Fxhold one sec lol07:30
Magic-Fx00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/907:31
fudgeyafter installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?07:31
SolidSourceok, I got a question of my own...my mplayer plugin in firefox will only download the clip to 99% and stop, but then I "right click >> play" it doesn't play it though finishes downloading it. anyone hit that problem?07:31
HudsonAnyone ever had the Nvidia binary drivers just crap out on them? I booted up just now and X would not start. no settings were changed between my last reboot and this one.07:31
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Magic-Fxthat what u wanted? im not actually sure... its just a standard 10/100 ethernet card.07:31
fudgeysolidsource my problem is worst .. I cant play anything with my mplayer07:31
SolidSourcefudgey: I can't either..only download the clip and save it, then play it in kaffeine07:32
fudgeytry vlc07:32
calebMagic-Fx: Thank you, and give me a minute to see what I can find with the Google.07:32
SolidSourcefudgey: though earlier mplayer wasn't even being recognized07:32
Magic-Fxthnx caleb07:33
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fudgeysolidsource my problem is worst .. I cant play anything with my mplayer07:33
fudgeyops wrong one07:33
fudgeyafter installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?07:33
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LL_Hakaisoukaffeine won't start07:33
SolidSourcefudgey: yes do07:33
SolidSourcegod I need to stop asking questions and then solving them myself07:34
LL_Hakaisouanyone have knowledge in how to get a program to start?07:34
bh_how's kde4 development going ?07:34
LL_Hakaisoui am trying to start kaffine, but when i do, the icon bounces for a while, then stops and nothing happens07:34
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SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: that happens every now and then, just need to try opening it again07:35
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calebMagic-Fx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=219686507:35
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: if that doesn't work "ctrl+esc" search for "kaffeine" kill all the kaffeine processes, then try opening kaffeine again07:36
calebMagic-Fx: There's a thread that shows a similar issue with earlier versions of Ubuntu, so that may help some. I'm also going to check Launchpad for anything related, as well.07:36
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Magic-Fxcaleb: awesome, thanks.07:37
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Magic-Fxsee, the only problem is... i can't load the page07:37
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calebMagic-Fx: Do you have any other browsers installed?07:39
calebMagic-Fx: Also, which version of Kubuntu?07:39
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Magic-Fx6.10 and not aside from the default browser that comes with it07:39
Magic-Fxi forget the name.07:39
Magic-Fxyeah thats the one07:40
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calebMagic-Fx: Does Konqueror work when Firefox doesn't?07:40
calebThat sounds like a Firefox bug, to me.07:41
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SolidSourcemagic-fx: you using AMD64?07:41
Jucatowow! konqueror works and firefox doesn't? yay07:41
calebI think it has something to do with the default DHCP timeout with FF as opposed to Konqueror, because I've noticed this as well, with Dapper, Edgy and Feisty.07:41
Magic-FxSolidSource: are u talking about my cpu or something else?07:42
SolidSourcemagic-fx: yes, 64bit 32bit?07:42
Magic-Fxduron 1200, 512mb ddr07:42
SolidSourcehmm...that is odd07:42
Magic-Fxi've used windows for years... recently i got a virus and had to do a format/reinstall and a friend came over with a copy of kubuntu so i installed it07:43
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Magic-Fxim very limited with my linux knowledge (have only used shell accounts in the past) so im not 100% with it07:43
Magic-Fxbut so far im VERY impressed and intend to keep using kubuntu.07:43
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calebMagic-Fx: Well, I'm glad you're happy, and I think I may have a solution..07:44
Magic-Fxi like the sound of that07:44
SolidSourcemagic-fx: it must be a firefox issue...could try www.getswiftfox.com since it installs a littel differently than adept installs firefox07:44
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calebMagic-Fx: Happy with Kubuntu, that is... And I think the problem is in the standard timeout for Firefox.. Let me look up how to change it, to see what happens.07:45
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SolidSourceit should be in about:config07:45
Magic-Fxok thanks caleb07:46
Absortohellow! please help me! I've run: xhost + ; DISPLAY= xlogo and I get Error: can't open display
AbsortoI also tried the hostname, and other IP addresses configured in this host. I don't understand what's going on. however if I try DISPLAY=:0.0 xlogo does run07:46
Magic-Fxdoes anyone know how i make my computer viewable through the network? I can see other computers (running windows) but they are unable to see me07:46
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calebMagic-Fx: As far as that goes, I think you have to install the samba package307:47
SolidSourcemagic-FX: could be a problem with the windows machine firewall...also need samba installed07:47
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Magic-Fxoh sweet as i don't have that installed, i'll do it now.07:47
calebMagic-Fx: And I'd try changing the network.http.keep-alive.timeout setting in Firefox's about:config07:48
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Magic-Fxhow do i get to that caleb?07:48
calebI think that'll work, but I normally don't use FF unless it won't open in Konqueror properly, so...07:48
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SolidSourcelol I am the opposite....can't do in konqueror what I can do in firefox...07:49
norbertAre there people with Feisty + mdadm + boot problems? I'm getting lots of wierd issues (that I'm having trouble isolating) and there seem to be similar unsolved problems on the forums - but I don't see any official bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs07:49
calebMagic-Fx: type "about:config" into the address bar of Firefox when you open it. Then search for the line I gave you. After that, you'll double-click the number on the far-right and change that setting to something larger. I'd try 400 or 500, myself.07:50
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SolidSourceoff topic announcement: Transformers is nearing release!!! only 4 months to go07:51
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Magic-Fxok ive changed it to 450, in the middle of ur suggestions :D07:52
crackheadquestion: what should i do when adept sort of freezes during "preparing" stage of isntallation, after it's downloaded all the files??07:52
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Jucatocrackhead: what are you trying to install (I think I asked this already earlier)07:52
calebNow see if it works for you. If it doesn't, I'll see if I can come up with something else.07:52
xinehai all07:52
SolidSourcecrakhead: click "show details"07:53
crackheadim installing a whole list of things07:53
crackheadright now? jre07:53
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JucatoSolidSource: offtopic reply: yay!07:53
Jucatocrackhead: uh oh...07:53
Jucato!java | crackhead07:53
ubotucrackhead: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:53
SolidSourcecrackhead: you can't install java in adept07:53
Jucatocrackhead: read the last sentence07:53
crackheadgreat, wish i had known beforehand07:53
crackheadso how do i cancel out adept, and can i cancel that particular install but still get the others, which have already dl'd?07:54
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HudsonJucato I think java 6 is available now07:54
SolidSourcecrackhead: you may need to do a "sudo dpkg --configure -a" first07:54
JucatoHudson: yes. give me a few secs07:54
JucatoSolidSource: (tell him to close Adept first)07:54
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Hudsonubuntu guide has the updated install instructions07:54
SolidSourcecrackhead; also yes,,,java6 instead07:54
Magic-FxI will be back; Need to restart to change something in kernel.07:54
Hudsonfor JRE and Mozilla plugin07:54
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SolidSourcecrackhead: close adept before running that command07:55
colorboycrackhead: use shell> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre07:55
SolidSourcejucato there you go  :-D07:55
SolidSourceok recap07:55
SolidSourceclose adept07:55
JucatoHudson: read the 2nd to the last sentence of the Java factoid07:55
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SolidSourcerun "sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:56
colorboyotherwise reboot then you sure you are closed :-))07:56
SolidSourcerun "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"07:56
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colorboyenable multiverse and universe in /etc/apt/sources.list07:57
SolidSourcelol...well if you want to do that sure07:57
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org07:58
HudsonJucato wtf is the java factoid? :)07:58
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: lol have fun with that...though I have it running flawlessly07:59
Jucato!java | Hudson07:59
ubotuHudson: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:59
JucatoHudson: this ^^^^07:59
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SolidSourcestupid www.imdb.com trailors...keeps causing mplayer to crash firefox08:01
HudsonJucato so what does that mean exactly? java works on my system.08:01
Jucato<Hudson> Jucato I think java 6 is available now <---08:02
colorsoundboyrunescape is too slow with java on my machine so it don't work :|08:02
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HudsonI always thought those factoids were a way for ppl here to tell noobs to STFU08:02
Hudsonso I never really read them08:02
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Jucatothat's what you get. so RTFF (Read The Free Factoid) :D08:03
SolidSourcejust tells how to install stuff...so we don't have to go into details in the chat08:03
JucatoHudson: actually the factoids are there to help save lots of typing and bookmarks08:03
HudsonI realize that now.08:03
MarkCand tell people to stfu.08:04
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.08:04
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SolidSourceyou know by the time they get 64bit OS working to the same scale as 32bit OS....they will have 128bit08:04
Hudsonlol see what I mean :)08:04
orient2000what is a comment to make a directory?08:05
Jucatomkdir (in case you still didn't see :D)08:05
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SolidSourceok, now all we need is stdin's "mkdir"08:06
orient2000I got permission denied08:06
Hudsonwhere are you trying to make a dir?08:06
MarkCsudo mkdir :)08:06
MarkC/sys/ ?08:06
Hudsonsudo mkdir then08:06
stdinhuh, what?08:06
Jucatoorient2000: why are you making a folder in /usr/share?08:07
orient2000I try to make install08:08
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:08
Jucatoyou don't manually add directories to root owned directories unless you need to (which most of the time , you don't)08:08
orient2000it does not want to create directory so I try to do it myself first08:08
orient2000yes compile08:09
Jucatowhy and when doesn't it want to create a directory? did you use "sudo make install"?08:09
SolidSourceorient2000: thats because its "sudo make" "sudo make install"08:09
MarkCjucato's fast.08:09
JucatoSolidSource: actually, "make" only08:09
MarkCi give... :)08:09
Jucato"./configure", "make", "sudo make install"08:10
SolidSourceJucato: depends, I've had some that "make" alone didn't want to work08:10
Jucatoorient2000: that wiki page gives detailed instructions/guide on how to compile08:10
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JucatoSolidSource: that would be very very strange... and probably a problem w/ either the source code or thedirectory08:10
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SolidSourceJucato: maybe, but I got it working...though uninstalled it almost right after08:11
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orient2000It worked thenks I am installing rubyripper08:11
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SolidSourceJucato: me too..but the stupid source didn't want to work otherwise08:12
Jucatostupid source coders... :P08:12
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Magic-FxHey... the firefox issue appears to be fixed thanks guys.08:13
calebMagic-Fx: Glad we could help.08:13
SolidSourcegood work team!08:13
Magic-Fxhrm... seems i spoke too soon08:13
Magic-Fxit works after i first reboot fine... but now its playing up again08:14
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calebMagic-Fx: That's really odd...08:14
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Magic-Fxreally really odd.08:14
calebMagic-Fx: Are you sure it's not a problem with the site you're trying to access?08:14
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Magic-Fxyeah im positive08:14
Magic-Fxthe site is google.co.nz08:14
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Magic-Fxwhich is the fastest webserver in new zealand08:14
Magic-Fxand i can access it fine from windows using firefox.08:14
calebMagic-Fx: Try Konqueror and see what happens.08:15
SolidSourcemagic-fx: all I have to say is....you lucky lucky man....living in NZ08:15
calebSolidSource: I agree with you. Anywhere could beat Tennessee, though...08:16
SolidSourcecaleb: oh come on...rock and roll capital of the world there08:16
Magic-Fxkonq loads the page fine08:16
SolidSourcecaleb: it beats Utah...what we got? snow? great I can freeze my butt even easier08:17
calebSolidSource: Touche.08:17
calebMagic-Fx: Have you checked for an updated version of Firefox, yet?08:17
Magic-FxSolidSource: your welcome to move to nz, i'll even put u up a place to stay if u fix my kubuntu lol08:17
Magic-Fxcaleb: i've only just downloaded it mate08:17
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SolidSourcemagic-fx: WOOHOO!08:18
Magic-Fxright; i've installed samba can someone help me with file sharing and shit please?08:19
SolidSourcemagic-fx: the funny thing is, I am actually looking at Australia and NZ as part of my post-graduation job search08:19
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reldruhMagic-Fx: I can try, I've made a ton of mistakes with samba :-)08:19
farazwhere is the repositories file located??08:19
calebMagic-Fx: It should work, if you try to access your machine from Windows.. You'll have to login, but I think it'll work. Or, it will, based on my home network.08:20
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reldruhfaraz: /etc/apt/sources.list08:20
calebfaraz: /etc/apt/sources.list08:20
SolidSourcemagic-fx caleb: he still needs to configure first08:20
SolidSourcemagic-fx: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#samba_server        will get you started08:21
calebSolidSource: I could've sworn it worked fine when I installed it on my desktop, but it's been so long that I really can't remember.08:21
SolidSourcecaleb: I've always had to do some configurations first08:21
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LL_Hakaisouok then08:23
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LL_Hakaisoua nice fresh reboot08:23
Magic-FxSolidSource: www.otago.ac.nz08:23
SolidSourcemagic-fx: that where you go?08:24
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margisi have a problem with a tv tuner.....can anyone help?08:25
margisi cant  find  a way to install it08:25
SolidSourcenot I, though I shall be listening cause I'm thinking of getting one08:26
margisit is  the pctv 330e08:26
reldruhI just ordered one yesterday, but I can't help you out either :-(08:26
margisi have this08:26
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SolidSourcewell thats an interesting little thing08:27
margiscan anyone  suggest me a programm to watch tv....(i will need it  when i install it08:27
margisit is nice  tuner08:27
reldruhmargis: mythtv?08:28
margisbut  i can use it  only with windows08:28
reldruhmargis: are you sure there's a linux driver for it?08:28
LL_Hakaisouok then...08:28
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margismythtv ,,,,,yes,..but i  cant  install it08:28
LL_Hakaisoui installed wine, but there is no .wine folder in my home directory08:28
reldruhmargis: can't install myth or the tuner?08:28
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: you need to run wine at least 1 time first08:28
LL_Hakaisoui have08:29
LL_Hakaisoujust type in wine, right?08:29
LL_Hakaisouwine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/(username omitted)/.wine'08:30
MarkCLL_Hakaisou: winecfg ?08:31
johnWould anyone know why I am unable to modify my master volume using the alsa driver but am able to modify my PCM volume.08:31
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johnMy volume is soooo low.08:32
margisi cant  install  both of them08:32
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LL_Hakaisoui think my copy of wine is messed up08:33
LL_Hakaisounothing involving the wine command is working08:34
reldruhmargis: I'd worry about the tuner first. If you can't get that working there's no point in installing mythtv. Find out if there's a driver for it. The mythtv wiki might be helpful08:34
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SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: you mean in run command "wine" doesn't do anything?08:34
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LL_Hakaisouit just displays the help dialog08:34
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: try in konsole "wine-cfg08:35
SolidSourcewithout quote08:35
LL_Hakaisoucommand not found08:35
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LL_Hakaisoudo you mean winecfg?08:35
SolidSourcemargis: try kdetv08:35
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LL_Hakaisoui just got like, 15 error messages in the Konsole08:36
SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: ok...so no dash08:36
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LL_Hakaisouthat's what threw all the messages at me08:36
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SolidSourceLL_Hakaisou: are the errors about dependcies:08:36
LL_Hakaisoui think...08:37
LL_Hakaisoui dunno08:37
reldruhhi professor08:37
seanOnesudo wine-cfg08:37
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LL_HakaisouseanOne: same result08:37
LL_Hakaisouthe problem is that wine never setup a /.wine/ directory when i installed it for some reason08:38
LL_Hakaisoui think08:38
LL_Hakaisoui think i need to uninstall it then reinstall it08:38
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crackheadwhen adept is hanging on preparing to install jre (because jre cant be installed with adept), what do i do to cancel or skip the jre install there and continue with the rest? it already downloaded everything, but did not install anything..08:41
SolidSourcecrackhead: just exit adept08:41
SolidSourcecrackhead: and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and that should install it all08:42
johnAnyone have any ideas why alsamixer wont let me adjust Master Volume.08:42
johnIt just says 00 for its value.08:42
johnIm unable to increase it.08:42
SolidSourcecrackhead: if not, install java in konsole, then go back into adept for the rest...you won't have to wait for download08:43
crackheadwill it have stored the list of files i was in the midst of installing?08:43
SolidSourceyou will have to reselect them08:44
crackheadi just tried to do the dpkg, hit return. it just seeemd to complete in a split second and went to a fresh user prompt.08:44
crackheadit didnt install everything, im sure.08:44
crackheaddo you think a thread of adept is still running somewhere? i just went to open adept again, and it presented the sudo login, but then didn't load up afterwards.08:44
SolidSourcecrackhead: stay out of adept and in konsole, "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"08:45
crackheadim not saying just for java. how do i get back into adept anyway? i just tried, and it didnt load.08:45
SolidSourcecrackhead: just try again08:46
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SolidSourcecrackhead: that such thing happens from time to time08:46
crackheadi see i have several adept maanger processes running in kde sys guard. im going to kill 'em, and then restart the adept. that should work, right?08:46
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SolidSourcecrackhead: yes it will...though you will have to start ksysgaurd with "kdesu ksysguard"08:47
crackheadfrom konsole?08:47
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SolidSourcecan or "alt+F2"08:47
SolidSourcefor run command08:48
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mefisto__has anyone here had any luck using K9copy?08:48
crackheadbam, worked like magic, baby. ha08:48
reldruhmefisto__: yes, I love it08:48
SolidSourcemefisto__: I use it regularly08:48
reldruhdoes anybody know when the new version will get into the repos? I've had trouble compiling it on my own08:49
SolidSourcereldruh: compiling what?08:49
reldruhSolidSource: the latest version of k9copy08:50
reldruhit was updated to 1.1.0 or something, but the version in the repos is something below that, even in the feisty one08:50
mefisto__k9copy users: I get error msg "an error occured while running DVDAuthor". do you ever get that?08:50
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SolidSourcemefisto__: nope neevr seen it, you have libdvd* all installed?08:51
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reldruhmefisto__: I've never gotten that, but this is a good example of where the newer version would be nice. The changelog for 1.1.0 is '- backup without menus, without dvdauthor'08:51
johnAny ideas..08:52
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johnUnable to modify master volume using alsa driver.08:52
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johnMaster volume just says 0008:52
johnwhen viewed via alsamixer08:52
mefisto__reldruh: the version I have (from repos) IS 1.1.008:52
Ayabara2anyone using krusader? I'm looking for a package of 1.8 beta, but I can't find one for kubuntu08:53
reldruhmefisto__: is it a beta?08:53
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SolidSourcereldruh: this thread has a repo that might have it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10806908:53
jakehi everybody im new to kubuntu somebody please help08:53
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reldruhjake: what's the problem?08:53
jakehow do i install software at this os?08:54
SolidSourcereldruh: though it says breezy in it...they might have a edgy section08:54
SolidSourcereldruh: which they do...and it has 1.1 in it08:54
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reldruhjake: depends on what you're trying to install. For most stuff, if you open up adept (press alt+space and start typing adept) you can search for programs. When you find one you want, right click on it and click 'Request Install'08:55
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reldruhjake: when you've requested everything you want, hit hte apply changes button at the top08:55
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SolidSourcejake: don't install java in it though!!08:55
jakethanx i'll try rbr08:56
jakebtw can you install .exe files?08:56
reldruhjake: no, those are windows specific. They won't work on linux. But you don't need them, there's a ton of great software in adept08:56
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jakebecause i really need my cakewalk program08:57
reldruhSolidSource: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+package/k9copy. They all look like betas of the 1.1 release. The final one would be nice. I think the lack of dvdauthor came about between the last beta and the release08:57
reldruhjake: what does it do? Chances are good there's an equivelant for linux08:57
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jakemidi editing software08:58
SolidSourcereldruh: well...thought 1.1 was still in beta....I don't know then08:58
reldruhSolidSource: 1.1's definitely been released. Check kde-apps.org08:58
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SolidSourcereldruh: just looked at its main site08:59
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reldruhdoes anybody here use rosegarden? jake, rosegarden is a very high quality audio editing program for linux; it will probably fill your needs. I don' tknow much about it, though08:59
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jakeok thanx a lot reldruh, one more question, how bout games can i install my age of empire 2?09:00
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crackheadquestion: where does wget put any downloaded package? does it store it only in some temp file/folder that gets erased after a while?09:01
reldruhjake: possibly with wine (it's a program that lets you run some windows programs on linux) or cedega (a game oriented version of wine)09:01
SolidSourcejake: through WINE or crossover linux, you possibly could09:01
LL_Hakaisoueither one costs money though09:01
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SolidSourcecrackhead: wget saves the file in whatever directary you are currently in under konsole09:02
SolidSourcecrackhead: unless specified otherwise09:02
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calebLL_Hakaisou: WINE is free. Crossover isn't..09:02
jakethank you very much guys brb09:02
LL_Hakaisouthat's what i ment caleb09:02
adydasberyl is easy09:02
LL_Hakaisoui was referring to Cedega and Crossover09:02
daft_hey, noob question but how do I configure my autostart in KDE?09:02
calebLL_Hakaisou: Oh. Nevermind.09:02
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SolidSourceCrossover and cedega aren't free, but they make things much easier than messing with wine09:03
adydasdaft_: adydas@adydas:~/.kde/Autostart09:03
daft_thanks sir09:03
reldruhwhat is autostart?09:03
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adydaserr /home/user/.kde/Autostart09:03
adydasreldruh: AUto start programs on boot09:04
reldruhmmm, that sounds useful09:04
daft_ok, and what do i do with the folder09:04
adydasyou put the program(s) via ln -s into there09:04
adydasso ln -s /etc/apache/apache.sh as a bad eg09:05
reldruhall right, g'night everybody09:05
hyper__chor one could save the session and restart the session upon reboot09:05
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hyper__chadydas: apache should be started from the init09:06
adydasi said a BAD eg09:06
adydasit was the only thing i could think of09:06
jakehow can i install tar.gz files?09:06
calebDumb question, but is there a way I can switch off the second processor core on my Core Duo without rebooting and going into the BIOS?09:06
adydasjake:  you dont isntall them, you can unzip with tar -zxvf filename.gz09:07
adydasbetter eg for Autostart then, lrwxrwxrwx 1 adydas adydas 22 2007-03-02 11:07 beryl-manager -> /usr/bin/beryl-m09:07
calebjake: Then cd into the directory, and if it's a binary, run it. If not, ./configure, make, make install09:07
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SolidSourcejake: here this site will explain most of your initial questions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy09:07
Jucato!compile | jake09:08
ubotujake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:08
Jucatojake: what is that .tar.gz? what are you trying to install?09:08
Jucatowine is in the repos jake...09:08
SolidSourcejake: adept can install that09:08
adydasjake: apt-get install wine09:08
Jucatoand it's one of the hardest things to compile09:08
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Jucato!info wine09:09
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB09:09
hyper__chjake: and you find current wine versions in the winehq repos09:09
Jucato!info wine edgy-backports09:09
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.30-0ubuntu2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 9355 kB, installed size 43704 kB09:09
Jucatohyper__ch: latest is 0.9.31. Edgy has 0.9.3009:09
Evil_DuDeis there a great difference between them ?09:09
hyper__chJucato: :) well, using the repos from budgetdedicated09:10
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JucatoEvil_DuDe: beside the ubuntu version being 1 release late?09:10
Jucatothe ubuntu version has been built against ubuntu and packaged by the official Ubuntu packagers (MOTU's)09:11
hyper__chEvil_DuDe: have a look at the version history of it09:11
Evil_DuDethank you09:11
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SolidSourcespeaking of SSH, has anyone had problems with running KDM through SSH and upon logout, the host computer crash?09:13
calebAlways make sure you're in the right machine when checking a sources.list and if it looks like the wrong version, don't do a "find and replace" and save before looking...09:13
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hyper__chEvil_DuDe: for the diffs:  http://www.winehq.com/?announce=latest09:13
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Evil_DuDehey thanks09:14
calebSolidSource: No, I haven't tried that, but I can test to se what happens.09:14
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SolidSourcecaleb: well its in correlation with XMDC (or whatever it is)09:14
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daft_thanks for your help adydas09:15
daft_bye all09:15
calebSolidSource: Ah... I usually haven't any reason to run remote X apps, except for when I want to control my desktop's Amarok setup via the notebook...09:16
calebToo lazy to hook the notebook up to the good speakers, when I can ssh into the machine that has the good stuff...09:17
SolidSourcecaleb: I do, cause I like to be able to monitor my torrents or what ever else I left it doing09:17
SolidSourcecaleb: such as...dist-upgrade...cause my connection sucks and ithat takes forever09:18
calebSolidSource: I forgot about that.. Plus, it's nice for escaping proxy servers that block esr's website...09:18
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SolidSourcecaleb: yep that too09:18
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yapycckyhello. who can help me to mount an sd memory card?09:19
calebyapyccky: What card reader do you have?09:19
SolidSourceit should do it automatically just like a USB drive09:19
yapyccky02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)09:19
yapyccky02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)09:20
yapycckythats what i get from lspci09:20
SolidSourceinternal or external ?09:20
calebSolidSource: The TI reader built-in to my laptop doesn't exactly like me very well...09:20
calebyapyccky: Does it show any changes in dmesg when you insert/remove a card?09:20
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SolidSourcecaleb: ok, you help cause I have never had problems with any internal card readers09:20
yapycckyyes caleb09:21
yapyccky pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 009:21
yapyccky[17264035.160000]  cs: memory probe 0xfe800000-0xfeafffff: excluding 0xfe800000-0xfe82ffff 0xfead0000-0xfeafffff09:21
yapyccky[17264035.160000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.009:21
yapyccky[17265007.644000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 009:21
yapyccky[17265013.852000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 009:21
yapyccky[17265013.852000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.009:21
yapyccky[17265023.948000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 009:21
calebyapyccky: It's seeing it as a PC Card for some reason.. Weird..09:21
yapycckywhat should i do?...09:21
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calebyapyccky: Wait a sec... That was the Cardbus you detected... Can you send me the entire dmesg output as a plain-text file?09:22
pirothezeroanyone know any good sources to read for RandR extensions?09:23
pirothezerolike specs or something09:23
calebyapyccky: And the lspci -nv output, as well. Just do both, and use Konsole's "Save History As" function.09:23
calebEr, lspci -v09:24
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yapycckyim sending u dmesg.txt09:24
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yapycckycaleb, do u get my files?09:26
calebNo, I'm not getting them.09:26
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yapycckycaleb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8185/09:28
calebSo the SD reader is a Cardbus card, right?09:29
yapycckyit seems so09:29
yapyccky02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)09:29
yapyccky        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 189409:29
yapyccky        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 17709:29
yapyccky        Memory at fe801000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 09:29
yapyccky        Bus: primary=02, secondary=04, subordinate=07, sec-latency=17609:29
yapyccky        Memory window 0: 36000000-37fff000 (prefetchable)09:29
calebyapyccky: Can you do an lspci -v for me, as well?09:29
yapyccky        Memory window 1: 38000000-39fff00009:29
yapyccky        I/O window 0: 0000cc00-0000ccff09:29
yapyccky        I/O window 1: 00001000-000010ff09:29
yapyccky        16-bit legacy interface ports at 000109:29
yapycckyok, wait09:29
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yapycckyhere it is09:31
SolidSourceoff topic: this is going to be one great B-day.... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comes out on my B-day09:31
SolidSourcegonna have to get wasted and go see it09:31
LL_Hakaisouit's gonna suck09:31
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LL_Hakaisoui loved the ninja turtles, and it pains me to see what they are doing to it09:32
SolidSourcewhy say that?09:32
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LL_Hakaisouyou seen the trailer?09:32
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LL_Hakaisoui dunno, something about it doesn't sit right with me09:32
SolidSourcewhat just cause theres no Shredder? that movie has been done09:33
yapycckycaleb, what do u think?09:33
SolidSourcethough, its possible they are loosing touch with the turtles original personalities09:34
Tidoanyone here installed ktorrent 2.1?09:35
SolidSourcenope, azureus is better so use it09:35
SolidSourceso I*09:35
fignewSolidSource: better at using your ram and CPU09:35
Tidoaz has a lot of overhead for a bt client >.>09:36
fignewTido: yes, I do09:36
Tido(though az is fantastic, just java)09:36
SolidSourcebut it does the best job, torrents get done faster in it09:36
fignewI would run utorrent under wine before I run azureus09:36
Tidowell, of course kubuntu comes with ktorrent 2.0x, but it really is slow09:37
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SolidSourcewell I don't notice any performance problems...but I have a pretty damn good machine09:37
Tidoand I know about port forwards, etc09:37
TidoI'm doing wine+utorrent atm and it is twice as fast as ktorrent 2.0x09:37
Tidothe problem is, I'm running wine....with utorrent09:37
Tidois 2.1 faster?09:37
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fignewIt's hard for me to tell09:38
fignewcause I'm on a 100mbit connection, so the limit is always the swarm of users on the torrent09:38
Tidowhere do you live?09:38
fignewCollege dorm :)09:39
TidoI meant geographically09:39
calebyapyccky: Have you tried "sudo modprobe sd_mod" and "sudo modprobe scsi_mod"09:39
SolidSourcethats a shared T1 or T3 line (5-30Mbs max)09:39
Tidomust be ga tech then09:39
fignewyep :)09:39
yapycckynow i di09:39
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Tidonormally I'd agree with you SolidSource, but GA Tech has god's internet09:40
Tidoanyways, is 2.1 in a package?09:40
fignewI got it from the official ktorrent site09:40
Tidok, I'll try that, thanks09:41
calebyapyccky: Try it, and see what happens, now. I'm still looking through the Ubuntu forums, though.09:41
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yapycckycaleb, nothing happend...09:41
fignewTido, now that I think about it though, sometimes it does run slow09:41
fignewIt'll connect to 8-10 hosts, and it just sits on them09:42
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figneweven if they're slow09:42
calebyapyccky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28217909:42
fignewI guess I've only had that problem on the wifi09:42
fignewlol, Tido, you're from georgia? #ubuntu-georgia ;)09:43
calebyapyccky: There's some good information if you don't mind wading through it. However, since it's a Ricoh card reader, I'm unsure as to whether it'll work or not, because I've seen information saying that they don't work under Ubuntu.09:43
yapycckyok....thx caleb.09:43
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calebyapyccky: No problem. I've got to get my internal reader working as well, so it's not like it's distracting me from what I was already doing.09:44
calebAlso, you may wnat to install the ivman package.09:46
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calebI hate to leave good company, but it's almost 3 AM and I've got three essays due at 8 AM, so I'll be going back to writing.09:47
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fignewcaleb: gee, you're just like me when it comes to doing work :P09:48
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calebfignew: Well, when it's boring work, it gets pushed back. Especially when everyone and their cat has my cell number and makes full use of it whenever there's a computer problem anywhere in my particular town...09:49
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eXistenZHello guys, is there a firefox-kde integration patch or something of that kind?09:50
calebSystem Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts09:51
JucatoeXistenZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE09:51
eXistenZJucato, Thanks a million!09:51
JucatoeXistenZ: it's a bit "superficial" though... in most cases...09:52
eXistenZJucato, I mean the "Open file" option.09:52
eXistenZIt just doesn't open the file =/09:52
Jucatofrom the Download manager?09:53
JucatoFirefox's download manager, I mean?09:53
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Jucatonot really sure though. sorry09:53
SolidSourceI think it is known, cause I haven't seen it work outside of windows09:54
pirothezerocan someone explain to me briefly what RandR is ?09:55
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adydasRest and relaxation??09:55
calebSolidSource: It works under Mac OS X, as well. *points at the old PowerBook and the Mac mini while whistling innocently*09:55
pirothezerolol adydas09:56
SolidSourcecaleb: ok ok...outside of the greedy corporate OSs09:56
Jucatoadydas: that's R & R :P09:56
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adydaseveryone needs some rnr09:56
Jucatopirothezero: X Resize and Rotate extension: http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/randr/09:57
calebSo, anyone other than me try the latest KDE4 release?09:57
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SolidSourcenot messing with it till its complete09:57
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Jucatothat's KDE 3.80.x "developers'" snapshots.09:58
Jucatopirothezero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randr09:58
Jucatodon't you just love Google and Wikipedia? :D09:58
pirothezerohaving one hell of a time trying to run beryl with portrait mode using the rotate command09:58
pirothezerois xrandr the same thing?09:59
Erunnocaleb: I compiled parts of it in the last few days. Nothing earth-shattering so far.09:59
Jucatotablet pc? O.o09:59
pirothezeroneg dual dell monitors09:59
pirothezerothat can rotate 90 degrees, and if i uncomment "Rotate" "True" it works and passes the RandR test09:59
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JucatoKDE4 stuff so far are under-the-hood changes.10:00
pirothezerobut with Rotate in there it fails back to the failsafe so I want to learn more about RandR10:00
ErunnoI'm close to buying a new notebook. Does anyone know if dual monitor support work with the recent free/binary ATI drivers ?10:00
Jucatopirothezero: have you used krandrtray?10:00
pirothezerothat like on the fly type app10:00
calebJucato: Quite true. However, the few bits of UI mods they've thrown out are pretty nice...10:00
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SolidSourceno extreme changes in GUI can truly be made until holigraphic projectors are created10:02
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pirothezeronot in apt-get it looks like10:03
ErunnoDirect feed to the brain ftw.10:03
pirothezerowill have to find krandrtray elsewhere10:03
soulfreecan i get help?10:03
Jucatopirothezero: er.. installed by default :)10:03
Jucatopirothezero: that's the command to run it. Alt+F2, krandrtray10:04
pirothezerocant find it in system desktop applet10:04
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soulfreei wanna see divx and wmv files on my kubuntu10:04
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soulfreebut i don't  know how to10:04
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs10:05
pirothezerobe back in a bit10:05
soulfreeyes! i heard about win32 codecs10:05
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milaksHi. Since I do not have right ctrl key (I have a mini keyboard), I've mapped both right win-key and menu key (which I do not use) in ~/.Xmodmap to be ctrl. And this works fine in GNOME. In KDE however it depends, it works that way until I for exmaple start to type message in Kopete, in which case both keys are reverted. Dose anynone knows solution to this?10:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
Lynouremilaks: you could try running you Xmodmap from ~/.kde/Autostart for KDE10:09
Jucato!botabuse | Skuller10:09
ubotuSkuller: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...10:09
SkullerJucato: sorry10:09
milaksLynoure: I'm doing that already, and mapping works until I for example start typing message in Kopete, after that they behave like before mapping.10:10
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milaks_Hi. Since I do not have right ctrl key (I have a mini keyboard), I've mapped both right win-key and menu key (which I do not use) in ~/.Xmodmap to be ctrl. And this works fine in GNOME. In KDE however it depends, it works that way until I for exmaple start to type message in Kopete, in which case both keys are reverted. Dose anynone knows solution to this?10:10
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Lynouremilaks: hmm, ok, you only mentioned ~/.Xmodmap so I thought that's the only place where you have your xmodmap10:11
milaksLynoure: in Autostart I have "url to application" from which I call xmodpam ~/.Xmodmap10:11
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Lynouremilaks: does it only happen in Kopete or also in other kde apps? If not in all, which ones?10:12
akruscould someone help me with SSH? :x10:12
akrusit's started but not working10:12
akruswhat's the problem :)10:12
Lynoureakrus: Probably, just give more detail.10:12
Lynoureakrus: ssh out or sshd?10:12
milaksLynoure: Well I dont know for others, for example I'm using Konversation right now, and it works fine, those keys are still ctrl.10:13
akrustrying to connect to localhost -> nothing :(10:13
akrusit worked before10:13
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akruswhere should the logs be?10:13
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Lynoureakrus: So, what has changed between?   /var/log/daemon.log, I think10:13
akrusLynoure: nothing :)10:14
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akrusdaemon.log -> no 'ssh'10:14
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Lynoureakrus: usually when people claim nothing has changed, they are forgetting some things...10:14
akrusok, Feb 27 08:38:11 flygroup sshd[5407] : Server listening on :: port 22.10:15
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akrusi did not touch ssh ever10:15
akrusit worked on feb.2710:15
milaksLynoure: any ideas?10:15
Lynoureakrus: But did you install e.g. a firewall?10:15
akrusLynoure: no10:15
akrusnewer kernel only10:15
soulfreehmm.. thanks!^^10:15
Lynouremilaks: no, sorry. I assume you have googled for xmodmap Kopete already?10:15
akrusfeb.28 also working :)10:16
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Lynoureakrus: no reboots after feb 28th?10:16
akrusthere were10:16
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Lynoureakrus: if there are, did the sshd still start listening after?10:16
apallois there a way to play windows streaming video in firefox?10:16
Lynoureakrus: if not, what if you start it manually?10:17
akrusMar  1 19:23:46 flygroup sshd[11296] : Server listening on :: port 22.10:17
akrusafter that - no restarts10:17
akrus11296 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd10:17
akrusLynoure: /etc/init.d/ssh restart? :)10:17
Lynoureakrus: What happens when you try to connect?10:17
akrusLynoure: nothing10:17
akrusLynoure: no info in logs & no ssh reply :(10:17
Lynoureakrus: nothing? no timeout even?10:17
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akrusLynoure: what's the timeout?10:18
akrusssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out10:18
Lynoureakrus: that is a timeout.10:18
LynoureWhat if you telnet to the same port?10:18
akruslemme check10:18
akrusno reply10:18
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akruswhen IP is specified10:19
akrus(external one)10:19
akrusbut not the local :x10:19
Lynoureakrus: why do you need to ssh to localhost anyway :)10:20
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Magic-Fxhey guys i got my network working fine, thanks for all the help. I still had issues with firefox so i have just uninstalled it.10:20
akrusto show kde4 for friend of mine :D10:20
f4ggz0rhey guys my kubuntu wont start... it just puts me in black screen or console mode root@username-desktop:~#...     wat do i do next ??10:20
Lynoureakrus: they cannot access your ip instead? Interesting.10:20
akrusPermission denied, please try again. <-- wtf?10:21
akruspassword is right10:21
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akrusjust did passwd10:21
f4ggz0rhelp :(10:21
akrusit looks like it's router xD10:21
akruslol yeah10:21
Lynouref4ggz0r: does it give any errors in the process? And what has changed since it worked?10:22
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f4ggz0rumm i made a few changes in the bios, nothing big, atleast i didnt think so10:23
akrusnetstat -al does not show ssh10:23
f4ggz0rno errors10:23
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akrustcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN10:24
akrusis it ipv6?10:24
soulfreereally thank you10:24
soulfreeand how can i see some divx files on kaffein?10:25
akrussoulfree: install mplayer with codecs10:25
soulfreecan't operatin on my player?10:25
Jucatosoulfree: divx uses .avi. so libxine-extracodecs will take care of that10:26
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Lynouref4ggz0r: Checked the log for xserver already? anything interesting there?10:26
akrushm, i simply installed mplayer so it added the codecs automatically :)10:26
soulfreejukato: thank you10:26
akrusLynoure: any ideas anyway? :)10:27
f4ggz0rlog for xserver? how do i do that ?10:27
soulfreeand now i'll fond it :)10:27
Lynoureakrus: I thought you just said it was your router causing it.10:27
akrusLynoure: nah10:27
naught101anyone know why the ubuntu version of gparted lags so far behind the standard version?10:27
akrusLynoure: just when i used ext.ip i was connected to my router :)10:27
akruslocalhost is not connected anyway~10:28
Lynoureakrus: localhost is local, on your own computer only. I still do not see how you need if for your friend. If they are already on your system, why do they need to ssh onto it?10:29
akrusLynoure: KDE4 is started via SSH10:29
akrusthe same happens for VirtualBox10:29
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akruswhen connecting to -> no reply...10:29
akruslet's try plain install10:30
akrusdoes not work anyway...10:31
Lynoure10.0.2.2 is your private ip? is the localhost ip.10:31
akrusI know10:32
akrus10.0.2.2 is used in VirtualBox10:32
akrusfor NAT10:32
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akrusSolidSource: hey :)10:32
Lynoureand you changed your kernel?10:32
akrusLynoure: likely10:32
akrusLynoure: I don't remember :)10:32
LynoureForgot the NAT modules?10:32
f4ggz0rhey guys my Adept Mgr seems to be not working right, how do i fix it ?10:33
akrusSolidSource: could you help with SSHd problems? :310:33
Jucatohow is it not working right f4ggz0r? please be more specific10:33
Lynouref4ggz0r: logs live on /var/log, so if you get command line, you can poke around there10:33
f4ggz0rahh ok thx Lyn10:34
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compilerwriter1speaking of ssh I could use some help there too.10:34
Lynouref4ggz0r: but if you got to Adept now, I guess your problem got solved10:34
f4ggz0rJucato, well it downloads packages ok i guess, but it gives error after i try to install them10:34
Jucatof4ggz0r: try installing the same package using "sudo apt-get install"10:35
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akrus!openssh-server feisty10:35
ubotuopenssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB10:35
f4ggz0rno im not actually back in kubuntu yet, i notice that i do get the initial kubuntu pre-log screen... the word kubuntu with the blue growing line just underneath the word.. then black screen10:36
akrus!openssh-server edgy10:36
ubotuopenssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB10:36
Lynoureakrus: you are on feisty?10:36
akrusLynoure: yep10:36
Lynoureakrus: Why not try on #ubuntu+1 then?10:36
akrusnoone replying here xD10:36
Lynourecompilerwriter1: Did you get your help already?10:37
compilerwriter1Not really.10:37
Lynourecompilerwriter1: if not, could you repeat what your problem si?10:37
compilerwriter1I have managed to install ssh, but am behind a router.  I thought I got that all configured, but I still can't seem to putty from a machine that is not on my home network.  I even signed up for a dns forwarding service and have the client for that.10:38
compilerwriter1I just don't know where things are going afoul.10:38
compilerwriter1I appears that you are a vi power user Lynoure.10:39
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Lynourecompilerwriter1: vi power user? What?10:39
Lynourecompilerwriter1: What vi has to do with your problem?10:40
compilerwriter1vi has nothing to do with my problem.10:40
Magic-FxHey.... Do you guys help with things like BitchX?10:40
compilerwriter1The substitution string thingy you used reminded me of vi.10:40
JucatoLynoure: he's referring to your s/foo/foo1/10:40
Jucatocompilerwriter1: it's a common thing in IRC after a while... whether you use vi or not...10:41
compilerwriter1That is correct sir Jucato.10:41
LynoureJucato: substitution command does not a power user make10:41
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JucatoLynoure: tell that to compilerwriter1 :P10:41
compilerwriter1I learned vi before I met IRC back in the late 80s early nineties.10:42
LynoureJucato: oh well.10:42
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compilerwriter1Anyway, Lynoure, do you feel like helping me troubleshoot this.10:42
compilerwriter1Does anybody feel like helping me troubleshoot this mess?10:43
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soulfree 10:44
compilerwriter1btw Jucato how does one do the emote things in IRC?10:44
Jucatocompilerwriter1: /me action10:44
soulfreehow can i get libxine-extracodecs?10:44
soulfreei can't find it...sorry10:44
Jucatosoulfree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP310:45
compilerwriter1Lynoure:  Are you up to it?10:45
ErunnoI'm about to buy a new notebook. Does anyone know if dual monitor support work with the recent free/binary ATI drivers ?10:45
Lynourecompilerwriter1: Hard to know beforehand, that :)10:45
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Lynourecompilerwriter1: What have you checked so far?10:45
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compilerwriter1I have forgotten what all I have checked.  I think I need to start from the beginning so to speak.10:46
Lynourecompilerwriter1: port forwarding not being on on your router would be my first guess and at least in USA many ISPs block many services10:46
compilerwriter1I have installed ssh.10:47
Lynourecompilerwriter1: sshd, you mean.10:47
compilerwriter1I have a DI-524 router I should say.10:47
compilerwriter1Let me look.10:47
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compilerwriter1Lynoure firing up adept now.10:48
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compilerwriter1That could be my problem10:48
Lynourecompilerwriter1: openssh-server is the one you want10:49
compilerwriter1ok.  I will see what we have in a minute I hope.10:50
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compilerwriter1I have both openssh-server and openssh-client installed.  I also have ssh installed.10:52
Magic-Fxi love kubuntu10:52
Magic-Fxim going to see if me and kubuntu can get married.10:52
f4ggz0rhey guys how do i get from the desktop to the var directory in the command console ?10:52
compilerwriter1Lynoure: I have both openssh-server and openssh-client installed.  I also have ssh installed.10:53
Magic-Fxf4ggz0r: just type /var into the address bar in konquerer10:54
Lynourecompilerwriter1: if you do netstat -la  do you see an entry containing *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN10:55
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f4ggz0ri cant get into kubuntu gui10:56
Lynourecompilerwriter1: if yes, if they try to ssh in from the local network, does that work?10:56
Lynouref4ggz0r: cd /var/log10:56
f4ggz0rahh ok good thx Lyn, life savor10:56
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Lynouref4ggz0r: less Xorg.0.log   (pressing q quits)10:57
Magic-FxLynoure: any idea how to set the default nickname/username/server etc in BitchX?10:57
Lynouref4ggz0r: might want to do  dmesg  too10:57
LynoureMagic-Fx: Sorry, never used BitchX, just ircii and irssi and a pile of graphical ones10:58
marclist channels10:58
Magic-FxLynoure: Whats the most similar to mIRC client available on kubuntu?10:59
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Magic-FxI'm using Konversation at the moment, which is good, but i can't add aliases which is dissapointing. Unless anyone here can inform me how to do that.11:00
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f4ggz0rLyn, it says fonts dir not found11:00
LynoureMagic-Fx: I have not used Mirc for... 8 years or so :) xchat is not bad.11:00
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f4ggz0rrefcount is 2, should be 1, fixing11:01
f4ggz0ris the last line11:01
Magic-Fxhmmm... i downloaded xchat and didn't like it. I used to like BitchX heaps but im a bit rusty now. lol11:01
f4ggz0rhow did i lose my fonts directory ?11:02
Lynouref4ggz0r: anything with EE on Xorg.0.log?11:04
f4ggz0rlet me look..11:05
f4ggz0rLyn, a bunch of 'can not open device...' on EE11:06
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cpk1konversation is cool11:07
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solemnwarningAre there any programs I can use for drawing graphs?11:08
Lynouref4ggz0r: which kind of devices?11:08
f4ggz0rLyn, /dev/wacom no such file or dir11:09
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Lynouref4ggz0r: sounds like you might want to reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org11:10
Lynouref4ggz0r: ah, wacom should not be trouble.11:10
Jucatosolemnwarning: what kind of graphs? There's KChart. I don't know the equivalent OpenOffice.org app11:11
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f4ggz0rLyn, hmm wat should i do then i wonder11:12
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Lynouretry the command I gave you. but if you are already root, skip the sudo11:13
f4ggz0rahh okie11:13
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Lynouref4ggz0r: it will ask you a pile of questions and also try to figure out on it's own things about your display card, monitor and so on.11:14
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f4ggz0rLyn, this is wat i typed: reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org11:16
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f4ggz0rbut i get 'reconfig not found'11:16
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f4ggz0rreconfig command not found11:16
Erunnof4ggz0r: Type only the sudo part11:16
f4ggz0rim in root11:16
f4ggz0rlyn said dont type sudo if im in root11:17
Magic-FxHow do i turn off server notices in Konversation?11:17
Erunnof4ggz0r: Yes, type the rest then (dpkg-reconfigure and so on)11:18
f4ggz0rahh ok11:18
Lynouref4ggz0r: just  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org11:18
Lynouref4ggz0r: assuming you had root.11:19
f4ggz0rit says 'must be run in root' i thot i was in root11:19
f4ggz0rthats where im at11:19
Lynouref4ggz0r: I try to separate things to type with double space from the rest, but I quess it is not always learn.11:19
Lynouref4ggz0r: then try it with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org11:20
solemnwarningHoly crap11:20
solemnwarningI just installed tulip, ran it and clicked new11:20
solemnwarningIt crashed X o_O11:20
f4ggz0rok now its says 'xserver-org not installed11:20
solemnwarningHow can an app take down the X server? :\11:21
f4ggz0ruh oh is that bad11:21
solemnwarningIt just did it again :|11:21
Lynouresolemnwarning: report a bug.11:22
solemnwarningAre there any programs for drawing graphs that don't crash the damm X server?11:22
f4ggz0ryea well my xserver-org looks like its down too11:22
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Erunnosolemnwarning: You could give the beta of the next version a try: http://www.tulip-software.org/11:25
ErunnoErunno: You'll probably have to compile it yourself though.11:26
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solemnwarningIs there anything like the windows "character map" program?11:27
Jucatosolemnwarning: kcharselect11:27
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Erunnosolemnwarning: I just installed tulip to see whether it will crash my X too. It seems to be working on my machine.11:33
epimethanybody home?11:34
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f4ggz0rLyn, do u think i need to reinstall kubuntu or ?11:35
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Lynouref4ggz0r: sorry I missed what happened with your reconfigure11:37
f4ggz0rnow its says 'xserver-org not installed11:38
adydas_re install it11:38
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Lynouref4ggz0r: try the same with  xserver-xorg-core  , I might have been careless11:39
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f4ggz0rhow do i do that? i get blackscreen after the initial kubuntu pre logon screen11:39
f4ggz0rLyn, i get same thing, xserver-org-core not installed11:40
Lynouref4ggz0r: that is weird. and you are not on feisty or something11:41
f4ggz0r6.10 i think11:42
Jucatothere's not xserver-xorg-core package11:42
Jucatooh there is11:42
Jucatoheh lol11:42
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f4ggz0rso far in the month that i've played around with kubuntu, i seem to have more bugs etc than its worth11:45
f4ggz0rtoo many glitches & hangups etc11:45
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f4ggz0ri really cant get anything much accomplished as a noob on kubuntu11:46
adydas_its apart of tha fun11:46
Lynouref4ggz0r: what happens if you do   startx?11:46
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guidenhow do I change the resolution in kde?11:47
f4ggz0rLyn, omg!! that worked! but then what was my problem ?11:48
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f4ggz0rLyn, im now on the kubuntu desktop gui11:48
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soulfreecan i ask sometin about divx11:49
Lynouref4ggz0r: I'm not sure. Just wanted to see if you have xserver installed :)11:49
soulfreei can't see some(divx,avi)files on my caffein11:50
Lynouref4ggz0r: pastebin your   dmesg   now that you can.11:50
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f4ggz0rLyn, when i try to install a full upgrade in adept it says 'error committing changes' possibly download problem or commit would break packages11:53
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f4ggz0ris that wat u meant by 'pastebin your dmesg' ?11:53
Lynoure!pastebin | f4ggz0r11:53
ubotuf4ggz0r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:53
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pirothezerohellanzb can go to hell11:54
pirothezerosabnzbd blows it away imo11:54
guidenso it's impossible to change the resolution?11:54
Lynouref4ggz0r: The startx thing is not going to be happening automatically. So seeing what happened at boot would help.11:54
f4ggz0rLyn, u mean u want me to pastebin the contents of my dmesg.log or ?11:55
Lynouref4ggz0r: only if you want to. Not going to force you :)11:56
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f4ggz0rits not problem, i just didnt know exactly wat u meant by pasting my dmesg11:58
f4ggz0ri guess i can open my dmesg log within kubuntu gui11:59
f4ggz0rim really noob11:59
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weathermanhi, does anybody know if (and when) we'll get new artwork in kubuntu feisty?12:00
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Jucato1. we most probably will get new artwork in feisty. 2) we'll get it when feisty is released12:02
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clowniuswe seem to get new artwork on every release12:02
Jucatoof course12:03
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waylandbillgotta make it look appealing to new recruits.12:04
f4ggz0rLyn, any idea how i can fix my adept ?12:04
f4ggz0rcant seem to find my /var/log directory in kubuntu gui12:05
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Jucatof4ggz0r: just type in the exact location in the location bar12:06
f4ggz0rall i see is home and media12:06
f4ggz0roh ok12:06
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f4ggz0rwow cool12:07
Lynouref4ggz0r: I missed the bit where you told in what way your adept is broken. But soon I'll have to go do paid work12:07
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f4ggz0rLyn, ok i just pasted it12:09
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Lynouref4ggz0r: url?12:09
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Lynouref4ggz0r: is it very very late at night there? :)12:10
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Lynouref4ggz0r: the url of your specific paste, if you want me to look at it.12:11
f4ggz0rthats the one u told me to paste it on , right ?12:12
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f4ggz0rwell according to the bot12:12
Jucatof4ggz0r: once you click on the Paste button, it should reload the page and give a new URL12:13
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Jucatogive that new URL so that we could see what you pasted12:13
f4ggz0rthats the url12:13
f4ggz0rthat one i used12:14
Jucatof4ggz0r: yes I know.12:14
f4ggz0rthere is no other url12:14
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Jucatothen you pasted the text in that page right?12:14
pirothezerowhats the best way to run a command at the startup/init/bootup of the kernel? i need to run ~/.SABnzbd/sabnzbd/SABnzbd.py -d -f SABnzbd.ini everytime I start my computer for the webserver.12:14
Jucatothen you click on the Paste button12:14
Jucatof4ggz0r: then the page reloads and shows what you pasted right?12:15
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pirothezeroi rather not make a bash file for it and leave it on my desktop and have to do it myself12:15
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Jucatof4ggz0r: once the page finishes loading, it will have a new URL, like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/####12:16
f4ggz0rwell, no ... the next page says 'paste something' etc and something about 'spamming'12:16
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pirothezeronm, rc.update is my friend :)12:16
f4ggz0rwats that mean?12:16
f4ggz0rwas i suppose to pick something under the syntax option or ?12:16
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f4ggz0rno idea wat syntax means12:17
Jucatof4ggz0r: pick "plain text"12:17
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Lynourecompilerwriter1: mostly just an Alien =)12:18
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f4ggz0rok i just tried 'text only' i get the same spamming response12:18
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Jucatof4ggz0r: what are you trying to paste again?12:19
Jucatocompilerwriter1: no. I'm just a humble demi-god12:19
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f4ggz0rthe contents of my dmesg log file12:20
f4ggz0rLyn wanted to see it12:20
Jucatooh, it must have been too long...12:20
Lynouref4ggz0r: unless you want to type  startx  every time, it helps to find out why your kdm is not starting on its own...12:20
compilerwriter1f4ggz0r you may have to cut it into a couple of chunks.12:21
f4ggz0rahh so the problem is my log is too big ? ok12:21
compilerwriter1Could be.12:21
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compilerwriter1Good night all.12:22
compilerwriter1f4ggz0r You will get it solved with Lyn and Jucato on the case.  Good luck to you.12:23
Lynouref4ggz0r: you can also sleep today, do the same  startx  thing next time and look into the long term solution then.  No sense zombieing around unless you have to.12:23
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f4ggz0rhow come pastebin doesnt just tell me how much text is TOO much... it still says im spamming it after i paste smaller chunks12:24
Jucatof4ggz0r: let's trying using a different pastebin12:24
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f4ggz0rok its on 37825212:27
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:27
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CShadowRunis there something like a kde task manager?12:32
CShadowRunwine crashed and it doesn't want to close :(12:32
JucatoCShadowRun: Ctrl+Esc12:33
CShadowRunwooo, i crashed X12:33
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b0rthey, simple question, how to change the wallpaper at the back of splash loading screen12:35
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epimethdoes anyone know if its possible that the network card somehow interferes with the sound card?12:43
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wargothhi all12:44
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clowniusepimeth i working off my Comptia A+ ancient knowledge but an IRQ conflict?12:48
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eilkeri cant get kdm, i cant get login screen,12:57
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eilkerX is oftenly frozen too12:57
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gioacchinohow to execute a daemon on kde start ?01:08
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clowniusyou want something to start on boot or when you login?01:08
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.01:08
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wargothlinux foreva!01:40
wargothhi all01:40
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wargothI've got Kubuntu 6.10 and want to turn my FireFox's web look, like in Konqueror? Any ideas?01:44
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wargothanybody here?01:46
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clowniuswargoth whats the issue?01:48
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clowniusturn you web look?01:48
NoshoemanHi,everybody.This' the 1st time i use this app,but ,what's this?01:49
b0rthey, simple question, how to change the wallpaper at the back of splash loading screen ?01:49
clowniusit an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) program01:49
clowniusb0rt ill look01:49
b0rtcant find that blink wallpaper in kcontrol, maybe i just replace it, but need its path01:50
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clowniusb0rt if its Kubuntu 6.10 go to Kmenu, System setting, Splash screen01:50
b0rtits not splash screen, its static image, that appears as wallpaper when loggin' in01:50
wargothclownius: yes, turn my web look, I want it like in Konqueror, forms and buttons01:51
clowniusyou want to change the desktop wallpaper or splash sceen or am i missing what your after?01:51
b0rtnone of them01:52
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clowniuswargoth are you trying to use FF as a file manager?01:52
b0rti changed theme, changed splash, but i still get default login screen01:52
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wargoth<clownius>: no, just a web browser.01:52
orient2000background of login?01:52
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clowniuswargoth i claim stupidity here i cant work out what you need im dumb01:53
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wargothkcontrol->system administration->login manager->...01:54
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clowniusb0rt id have to reboot to check if it works.  Give me 30 seconds01:55
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b0rtwargoth: let me see01:56
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b0rtwargoth:  there it was !! thanks !!01:57
coreymon77how do i uninstalll things that were not installed through apt01:57
coreymon77such as cedega01:57
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clowniusok i see what you mean b0rt it changes loading screen but not the login :(01:58
clowniusmy bad01:58
b0rtclownius: wargoth told me how01:58
b0rt<wargoth> kcontrol->system administration->login manager->...01:58
b0rtthere u can change wallpaper for login01:58
clowniuscool i might have a go lol mines et at an odd size lol, the logins at the bottom right, only have the issue with 64bit] 01:59
waylandbillcoreymon77: depends on how it was installed.02:00
wargoth<coreymon77> man gpkg02:00
wargoth<coreymon77> man dpkg02:00
waylandbillcoreymon77: did you build from source?02:00
coreymon77i thinkcedega was a deb02:00
wargoth<coreymon77> man dpkg02:01
waylandbillcoreymon77: dpkg -r02:01
coreymon77and crossover was done through a script02:01
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waylandbillcoreymon77: the script one you'll need an uninstall script if they supplied one.02:01
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega02:02
clowniuswargoth ill pick your brain if i could how do i change the resolution of my login screen?02:02
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clowniushmm im might have answer my own question let me test02:04
wargoth<clownius> just xorg.cong.02:05
wargoth<clownius> just xorg.conf02:05
b0rtcrossover its really nice, it just works clean02:05
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b0rtits kinda funny when it starts "Simulating Windows Reboot"02:05
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clowniusnope it still doesnt like my onboard video card02:09
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wargoth<clownius> just xorg.conf02:09
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eilkeri have 32 packages to ugrade, how can i do this from console ? sudo apt-get upgrade ??02:13
clowniusshould i be looking at the one in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/xresprobe?02:13
wargoth<clownius> /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:14
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Jucatoeilker: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:14
wargoth<eilker> sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:15
clowniusthanks.....this is sad even after 6 months i can help some but more likely i need help still02:15
wargothman apt-get :)_02:15
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wargothwhat about a php editor? :) it's my question02:18
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wargothi saw a plugin for kate at kde.org that completes php special words, but I couldn't download it alone.02:19
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wargothand didn't find any more info02:20
wargothany ideas?02:20
clowniusnope no fix but ill leave it for now02:20
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wargoth<clownius> google for it02:20
clowniusits niggling only happens on 64bit and its my fault for using cheap onboard vid02:20
clowniusmy quad will have a decnt nvid card02:21
wargothtry to google. there lots of answers to this question.02:22
eilkerwargoth:The following packages have been (packages names) .0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.02:22
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wargoth<eilker> this ok02:22
eilkerbut it is not upgraded02:23
eilkeri have still 32packages to upgrade02:23
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wargoth<eilker> and check /etc/apt/sources.list02:23
clowniuscan i altavista instead lol i hate google and its almost monopoly lol its close the the M$ of search engines lol02:23
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wargoth<clownius> NO, you should use GOOGLE. :)02:24
wargoth<clownius> i LOVE it :)02:24
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eilkerwargoth: it is ok too02:25
wargothi've got these 32 packages too.. or maybe much more. you should worry about it.02:26
wargoth<eilker> also you should try aptitude dist-upgrade02:27
eilkerwargoth: my mouse is freezing, i cant use kubuntu cause of it, i dont know reason02:27
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wargothwhat is the PC config?02:28
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wargothand did you installed all drivers to your box?02:28
eilkeryes i did all, it was ok, but i dont know what happend02:29
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wargothsee logs02:31
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CShadowRunhmm, are 'su' and 'sudo' diffrent things?02:33
CShadowRunbecause su says my password is wrong (i obviously know what my password is) but sudo works fine02:33
wargothyes, they are02:33
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CShadowRunhmm, is there some kind of default su password then?02:33
wargothsee man su and man sudo02:33
neutralosstype su passwd02:33
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wargothno, ubuntu default - not02:34
wargoth<neutraloss> sudo passwd02:34
|lostbyte|CShadowRun, su aske's for your root password.02:34
neutralosswargoth: are the su and sudo independent?02:34
neutralosssu passwd words for me as well02:34
eilkerwargoth:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8218/ this is from kdm .log02:34
CShadowRunnope doesn't work for me02:34
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CShadowRunsu passwd returns "Unknown id: passwd"02:35
|lostbyte|If you set sudo passwd root. Then su will work with the root password.02:35
wargothsudo passwd !02:35
neutralosswargoth is right, mea culpa02:35
CShadowRunok its working now :D02:35
|lostbyte|and you will notice root@hostname at your prompt.02:36
CShadowRunyea thats right :D02:36
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wargothof sudo -i02:36
wargothand you shoudn't set any password02:37
clowniusanyone here had dealings with uck?02:37
wargoth<eilker> i'm looking to02:38
CShadowRunlol i keep looking over to my windows machine and expecting the windows to wobble02:38
clowniusubuntu customistation kit?02:38
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|lostbyte|CShadowRun, Beryl ?02:39
CShadowRun[|lostbyte|-> yea i use beryl :)02:39
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|lostbyte|CShadowRun, Did you recently do a upgrade ?02:39
woopwoopAnyone know how to install the flash plugin (for firefox) on x86_64?02:39
CShadowRun[|lostbyte|-> well, i only installed linux like 2 days ago (for the first time)02:39
apokryphoswoopwoop: not possible unfortunately02:40
woopwoopthat sucks02:40
apokryphos(i) because Kubuntu/Debian systems aren't biarch-compatible, and (ii) because 64bit firefox can't read 32bit plugins02:40
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wargoth<clownius> it's something for full users :)02:40
woopwoopthanks for the info apokryphos02:40
apokryphos64-bit konqueror on the other hand can ;-)02:40
|lostbyte|CShadowRun, Well, Welcome to Linux :)02:40
apokryphos(but you need a biarch compatible OS :))02:41
CShadowRun[|lostbyte|-> thanks :)02:41
clowniusthanks lol.. Anyways if you havent played with it no help02:41
CShadowRun[|lostbyte|-> i only ever go back to windows to play counter strike source now, lol. (i couldn't get wine to work)02:41
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wargoth<CShadowRun> it's true)) and WOW02:41
|lostbyte|CShadowRun, YEs, CS1.6 works perfectly on wine.. Did't try 2 though.02:42
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wargoth<apokryphos> can't I, for example, install 32 bit FF and use 32 bit plugins?02:42
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apokryphoswargoth: don't copy and paste nicks, use <TAB> :)02:42
CShadowRunyea i use counter strike source, when i start it up it comes up full screen grey :/02:42
apokryphoswargoth: not on Debian-based systems02:42
CShadowRuni can see the game for like half a second. but then just grey :(02:42
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|lostbyte|CShadowRun, Try asking at #winehq02:43
CShadowRunhehe, there all afk :D02:43
|lostbyte|They solved my worms problem.02:43
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wargothapokryphos: sorry, I doesn't work)) I don't know why. I use Konversation02:43
apokryphoswargoth: type apok<tab>02:43
apokryphosshould work fine02:44
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wargothapokryphos: ok. that's fine)))02:45
wargothapokryphos: I'm using it the first time))02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:46
apokryphoswargoth: welcome :)02:46
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wargothapokryphos: haha02:47
eilkerwargoth: any news :)02:47
wargotheilker: sorry!?02:47
wargotheilker: oh. ok.02:48
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wargotheilker: just wait for a minute02:48
eilkerwargoth: ok thanx02:49
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wargotheilker: please show /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:49
wargotheilker: kdm log isn't good02:50
|lostbyte|Where could i view change Logs of Packages being added to the repositories?02:50
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vamp898Hi @ all02:50
wargoth|lostbyte|: after upgrade?02:51
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vamp898how is it??? http://vampserver.dyndns.org/bilder/dark.jpg02:51
|lostbyte|wargoth, Yes.02:51
wargoth|lostbyte|: maybe /var/cache/apt/ helps you02:52
vamp898does it looks good?02:52
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|lostbyte|wargoth, how about date and time of installation?02:53
wargothvamp898: fine)) what is that pan to the rigth? I want it)))02:54
vamp898wait i look02:54
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eilkerwargoth: xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8223/02:54
wargoth|lostbyte|: somewhere might be an installation log02:54
vamp898donmon 1.2 (with SuperKaramba)02:54
vamp898apt-get install superkaramba02:54
wargoth|lostbyte|: i'm looking for it02:54
vamp898and then, with super karamba you have do downlo0ad donmon 1.202:54
wargothvamp898: thanx))02:54
|lostbyte|Oh, thanks..02:55
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ubuntu_hello there02:56
eilkerwargoth: and xorg conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8224/02:56
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wargotheilker: once more: what kind of problem?02:57
eilkeri cant get login screen02:57
ubuntu_i like to know where i am able to find kubuntu release 6.06.1 in dvd form02:57
vamp898wargoth: and? did you found it?02:57
vamp898on http://kubuntu.org02:58
eilkerwargoth : and oftenly my mouse is freezing02:58
vamp898http://kubuntu.de there you find the 6.06.1 LTS as DVD02:58
wargothvamp898: ok, I'll see later02:58
wargothvamp898: thanx02:58
wargotheilker: oh, ok02:58
vamp898i meand ubuntuz_02:59
vamp898ubuntu_: on http://kubuntu.de youll find 6.06.1 LTS as DVD02:59
ubuntu_laughing......no that isn't it. i find it but there is no way to download it02:59
wargotheilker: and sudo dmseg please02:59
ubuntu_if i start the download it breaks after 5 kb02:59
ubuntu_i got an iso contains of 5 kb03:00
wargothvamp898: :)03:00
AMSmith42How do I launch WINE?03:01
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Bordy240AMSmith42: Can always find the file you want to run through WINE, right click it and go from there03:01
AMSmith42I don't have an icon.03:01
Bordy240An icon for what?03:01
AMSmith42I found that I can just run it from the command line.03:01
AMSmith42Oh, right.03:02
ubuntu_hi @<AMSmith42>03:02
AMSmith42I see what you are saying now.03:02
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AMSmith42Hello, ubuntu_03:02
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42>  wine is a virtual machine, isn't it??03:02
eilkerwargoth : it is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8226/03:03
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AMSmith42No, an emulator.03:03
Bordy240Anyone ever used Cedega instead of WINE? I wanna try it out03:03
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42>  that is what i am meaning03:03
AMSmith42A VM runs the OS, WINE pretends to be the OS.03:03
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> what system do you like to emulate??03:04
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> ok03:04
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AMSmith42I like to emulate C64.03:04
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> do you have testet vmware??03:05
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> stop03:05
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ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> that was too fast03:05
eilkerwargoth : i did sth, let me reboot pls03:05
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> c64??03:05
wargoth_eilker: ok03:06
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> is that your question??03:06
AMSmith42Oh, damn. Is ubuntu a bot?03:06
Bordy240Don't think so, I think thats a standard name given by like konversation if you don't provide one03:07
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vamp898wargoth_: why you are green with an underline?03:07
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ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> i thougt you like to emulate linux, windows, mac os....or sth. like that.03:07
Bordy240I think WINE is a windows emulator, isn't it?03:07
wargoth_vamp898: don't know)))03:07
Hrontoreokay when i hit save on blue fish the program closes03:07
vamp898lol :D03:07
AMSmith42No. I like Commodore 64 games.03:07
Bordy240Wow, haven't heard that since I was a kid03:08
vamp898wargoth_: do you have ICQ or any other IM?03:08
vamp898i like old dos games :D03:08
vamp898does anyone know Raptor - Call of the Shadows?03:08
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> that cought be difficult03:08
wargoth_vamp898: Konversation03:08
AMSmith42Is WINE the only Windows emulator on Linux?03:08
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Bordy240theres also Cedega03:08
vamp898but WinE is as i know, the only one free03:09
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> i do not know much about c64......but.....i think there is no os, or?03:09
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vamp898http://transgaming.com there youll find Cedega, this is the best for games03:09
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega03:10
AMSmith42Yes, there is an OS for C64.03:10
Bordy240I really want to pay for Cedega so I can run stupid WoW03:10
vamp898on http://aep-emu.de youll find many emus for C6403:10
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> how is it called??03:10
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vamp898Bordy240: Do you have any IM03:10
AMSmith42Commodore 64 DOS03:11
Bordy240Yeah I do, same name on AIM03:11
Bordy240hooray rhyming!03:11
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AMSmith42lol Bordy24003:11
vamp898Bordy240: Vamp898VL add me with this in AIM03:11
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Hrontoreblue fish closes when i hit save why?03:11
wargoth_[away] 03:12
vamp898Bordy240: no, im no registered03:12
ubuntu_@<AMSmith42> do you have to install the dos??03:12
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Bordy240well shoot, register your name!03:12
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dr_willis- /msg nickserv help03:12
Bordy240do a /msg nickserv register03:12
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Vamp898my nick iss already registered -.-03:13
Bordy240And you're sure you didn't do it?03:13
Vamp898im the only one Vamp898, but i registered many times bevore and forget my pw03:13
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> :)03:14
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> do you have found another location where kubuntu_V6.06.1LTS_DVD is to load??03:15
Vamp898www.sex.de :D03:15
Vamp898maybe you find a iso here03:15
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> i can not believe that. *gg*03:16
Vamp898i know :D03:16
Vamp898why you want a DVD?03:16
Vamp898wait i search for you seriously03:16
wargoth_Bordy240: you can get Cedega's source free03:16
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> cause the lib of a dvd03:17
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> and the including packs03:17
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Vamp898why you dont want 6.10 Edgy?03:18
eilkerwargoth: any new news :)03:18
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> i just want a stable version03:18
Vamp8986.10 is stable --.--03:19
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> edgy is just beta03:19
wargoth_|lostbyte|: found: /var/log/dpkg.log03:19
wargoth_eilker: and sudo dmseg please03:19
ubuntu_@<Vamp898> ^^ok, thats right.03:19
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wargoth_ubuntu_: is it?!03:19
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coreymon77ubuntu_: no it isnt03:19
coreymon77ubuntu_: edgy is not a beta03:20
Vamp8986.06.1 LTS only for you03:20
coreymon77ubuntu_: dapper is just the lts release03:20
olstai install kubuntu 6.06 but the sources.list doesent work03:20
coreymon77ubuntu_: edgy is no beta though03:20
ubuntu_i know....03:20
olstacan somebody help?03:20
eilkeri did it above ...pls look at above, and i dont have the link at the moment03:20
Vamp898and here is 6.10 Edgy as DVD03:20
ubuntu_ok. i try it03:20
eilkerwargoth: i did it above ...pls look at above, and i dont have the link at the moment03:21
Vamp898ubuntu_: how to say?03:21
wargoth_eilker: I've been reconnected.03:21
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:21
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eilkerwargoth: ok let me do it again03:21
olstamy sources.list doesent work under kubunu 6.06 where can i get a sources.list with its work?03:21
Hrontorewhy does blue fish close out on me with no errrors when i save my work?03:21
Hrontoreand how can i fix it03:22
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olstamy sources.list doesent work under kubunu 6.06 where can i get a sources.list with its work?03:22
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wargoth /msg NickServ set email yavalek@gmail.com03:23
olstacan someone help m?03:23
eilkerwargoth: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8232/03:24
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wargotholsta: you should read official manual03:24
olstaiam new in kubuntu and its my first time03:25
wargotholsta: you can find it there03:25
wargotholsta: ubuntu.org03:25
wargotholsta: wiki.ubuntu.org ...03:25
olstahmm and if you tell me a link to the actual sources.list for 6.06, its a problem?03:26
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:26
||arifaXhi, I have a problem all version later of firefox will only start up once after installation or if I choose safe-mode. any ideas?? I always re-install from apt-cache but I want the latest version because of the security patches. any idea where I could start an investigation?03:26
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wargotheilker: %)03:28
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wargotheilker: what have you done when it becomes buggy?03:30
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eilkerwargoth: i just ugraded from 6.06 to 6.1003:31
olstacan you please give a actuall sources.list?03:31
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olstathe default sources.list after install 6.06 doesent work03:32
wargotheilker: I think you have problem with xorg.conf .03:32
eilkerwargoth: what do i need to change ?03:32
wargothlook for a backup in /etc/Xorg/ dir03:32
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AMSmith42Can I run Windows Defender in WINE?03:33
AMSmith42lol Just kidding.03:33
wargotheilker: look for a backup in /etc/Xorg/ dir03:33
ubuntu_it starts working, thanks for that.03:34
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ubuntu_.....but can you answer me why it didn't start under ubuntu.org???03:35
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olstawhere can i get sysnaptic the package manager fpr kubuntu?03:36
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wargotholsta: sudo apt-get install synaptic. :)03:37
MarkCh<olsta> sudo apt-get install synaptic03:37
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soulfreei have question03:37
Jucato"sudo apt-get install synaptic" if you still didn't see03:37
olstawell and there is my probelem it doesent work03:37
ubuntu_i tried it many times before.03:37
wargotholsta: but you havn't source list)))03:37
olstasure there is a source list but it will not work03:37
fabioi suggest to use aptitude03:37
soulfreehow can i play divx files on my kaffein03:37
fabioi more confortable03:37
MarkCh<olsta> what do you mean does not work?03:38
wargotholsta: see /etc/apt/source.list . and uncomment everything03:38
MarkCh<olsta> if it doesnt work then adept and apt-get wont work too...03:38
Jucatosoulfree: didn't I already give you the wiki page for installing libxine-extracodecs hours ago?03:38
wargotholsta: /etc/apt/sources.list03:38
fabiothere is a client for jabber in kde?03:38
fabiothat work with file transfer03:38
wargothfabio: kopete03:39
soulfreejucato : ofcourse, you did give me the answer03:39
olstawargoth: i know but it doesent work with the server they are there03:39
fabiokopete dont work with file transfer03:39
Jucatosoulfree: but?03:39
soulfreei have no experience about kubuntu...03:39
olstathis is the output from apt-get upddate03:40
Jucatosoulfree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 if you lost it03:40
wargotholsta: internet connecton issues?03:40
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olstaiam here with the computer ;)03:40
Jucatosoulfree: please ask something specific if you're having trouble. :)03:40
soulfreeplease...give me kind answer...03:40
soulfreehow can i get the lib about xine?03:41
wargothto all: http://wiki.kubuntu.org !!!03:41
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soulfreei have no list about it03:41
MarkChhmmm... it seems most kde users speak english as a second language...03:41
soulfreeon my adept manager...03:41
soulfreeam i add some source list?03:41
olstawargoth: i install kubuntu the internet work without problem and the sources.list had a fault?03:42
wargothMarkCh: or the third one... :)03:42
olstawargoth: and the user must read a lots of documentation that he find a work sources.list?03:42
ubuntu_ok, thank you.....see you.03:42
MarkCh<soulfree> mp3 playback? just type: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly03:42
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wargothmaybe I can speak russian with smth)))) feel free to ask03:42
rysiek|plguys, anybody having problems with radeon + latest ati drivers + current kernel on edgy? seems like they just arent working...03:43
soulfreethanks... but... it's not the problem about mp3...about divx(avi)03:43
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rysiek|plsoulfree: just install the package :)03:44
Jucatosoulfree: the package that lets you play mp3 also lets you play avi/divx03:44
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soulfreewhat is the name of it? and how can i get the package? adept manager?03:45
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wargotholsta: what it tells you when you're trying to install some package?03:45
olstaexample synaptic?03:46
wargothno, apt-get03:46
olstano to get synaptic with apt-get, but the package doesent exist03:47
wargotholsta: first, you should check sources.list03:47
wargotholsta: second, you should type sudo apt-get update03:47
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wargotholsta: it must work03:48
olstamy sources.list03:48
wargotholsta: MUST if haven't any inet connection issues03:49
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olstai can serve in the internet i can chat about irc ...... but03:49
wargotholsta: where are from?03:49
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wargothok. source.lost is ok03:50
Bordy240so just sudo apt-get install synaptic won't work?03:50
wargotholsta: second...03:50
wargotholsta: sudo apt-get update03:50
wargothin konsole03:50
wargotholsta: is it clear?03:50
Bordy240man I am so glad I installed Yakuake03:50
Bordy240i hate the konsole. lol.03:51
Jucatoironic... since yakuake uses konsole... :)03:51
wargothBordy240: what's this? I like ctrl+alt+f1 (f1-f6) :)))03:51
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wargothBordy240: nicht holen - please translate03:52
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olstahe cant fetch03:52
wargothBordy240: sorry03:53
wargotholsta: ok03:53
wargotholsta: )))03:53
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olstayou know the problem?03:53
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wargotholsta: ok, I can send you my source list if you want.03:53
wargotholsta: where can I do this?03:53
eMaXhow do I find out the version of x.org I'm using03:54
wargotholsta: e-mail?03:54
Bordy240Wargoth: its a konsole front-end , slides out of the top of the screen (or wherever you put it), you just hit f1203:54
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olstain the qry03:55
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wargotholsta: ok, i've it03:55
wargotholsta: ok, i've sent it03:55
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wargothBordy240: oh, year, I used it)))03:55
olstawargoth: thx but doesent work :/03:57
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olstais there a firewall?03:57
skywalker___GM its friday yeaaaa03:58
MarkChskywalker___: not for long.03:59
MarkChaw... sorry, timezone different.03:59
skywalker___dont tell me you been up all night03:59
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wargotholsta: did you sudo apt-get update?04:00
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olstawargoth: yes but it doesent work04:01
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wargothping any host04:02
wargotholsta: from sources.list04:02
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boss_hoghow can i swich off synaptic trying to install a prog ?04:04
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olstawargoth: i cant ping the sites04:04
MarcoPaudo we have a firewall by default in kubuntu?04:04
olstabut i can for example ping www.google.de04:04
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olstawargoth: i cant ping http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ but i can go with the konqueror04:05
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olstaon this site04:05
MarcoPauI mean iptables04:06
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wargotholsta: do you have any proxy?04:09
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olstait sucks04:11
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skywalker___I have a question about virtualbox.. If I turn up the base memory and video memory with this effect linux?04:12
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wargotholsta: so I don't know why do you browser connects to the site and konsole doesn't04:12
olstaping will work too04:12
wargotholsta: now update list04:13
wargotholsta: sude apt-get update04:13
olstathe same :/04:13
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wargothpings, but doesn't updates?!04:14
wargothcheck /etc/apt/apt.conf04:14
olstaAcquire::http::Proxy "false";04:14
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wargotholsta: have no idea %)04:15
olstawargoth: thanks for your support04:15
wargotholsta: try to complete updating, then try to get and install smth04:16
wargothmaybe some hosts are dead now. I didn't checked04:16
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wargotholsta: for examle, synaptic04:17
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ErtainHello everyone.  I can't seem to use my tablet.  It keeps seeing my tablet as a mouse.  Udev doesn't seem to work properly.  I have a Graphire 4 tablet.04:20
raylu If I have a RAID0 drive setup...how do I "un-raid-ify" it?04:20
raylu Ertain, what should it see it as?04:21
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Vamp898ubuntu_: i know why you wanted 6.06.1, beceause the LTS (Long Time Support)04:21
Ertainraylu: it should see it as a Wacom tablet.  The first time I used it the features just went out the window.  After a little tinkering with the udev file it didn't work at all.  Then I went back and changed the udev file.  Now it still works, albeit with the functionality of a mouse again.04:23
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raylu Hm...no idea what it should do then, sorry :P