[12:13] <stdin> huh, what will I know? :P
[12:13] <Mena_> coreymon77, try at first autoremove
[12:14] <coreymon77> stdin: im running a livecd here
[12:14] <Mena_> coreymon77, o
[12:14] <Mena_> k
[12:14] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , So
[12:14] <coreymon77> stdin: because my filesystem i think is corrupt or broken
[12:14] <coreymon77> i get a fsck error about it not being clean when i try to boot
[12:14] <coreymon77> stdin: how do i fix it
[12:15] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , What happened
[12:15] <stdin> coreymon77: what's the device called? /dev/hda1?
[12:15] <coreymon77> no
[12:15] <stephan22222_> update worked
[12:15] <coreymon77> hdb1
[12:15] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , what a bout autoremove
[12:15] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , not yet
[12:16] <coreymon77> stdin: the device is hdb1
[12:16] <stephan22222_> Mena_:
[12:16] <stephan22222_> stephan@hongkong:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:16] <stephan22222_> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:16] <stdin> coreymon77: ok, try this: sudo fsck -f /dev/hdb1 (in konsole)
[12:16] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , hmmm
[12:16] <Mena_> stdin, any idea
[12:17] <coreymon77> stdin: okay
[12:17] <coreymon77> stdin: it gave me output
[12:17] <rob-west> !kmail
[12:17] <ubotu> kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2174 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[12:17] <stdin> Mena_: that's probably because it using the dapper version of apt there
[12:17] <stdin> coreymon77: what's it say?
[12:17] <Mena_> stdin, ok
[12:17] <coreymon77> should i just paste it
[12:17] <coreymon77> ?
[12:17] <stdin> coreymon77: use pastebin
[12:17] <stdin> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:18] <Mena_> stdin, do you know the command with apt deapper
[12:18] <Mena_> stdin, me dont know
[12:18] <stdin> Mena_: for autoremove? there isn't one on dapper
[12:18] <Mena_> stdin, so
[12:18] <coreymon77> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8142/
[12:18] <Mena_> stdin, but he gets use autoremove
[12:18] <Mena_> stdin, when try to install something
[12:19] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , right
[12:19] <coreymon77> stdin: btw, my system is an edgy system and im running off of an edgy livecd right now
[12:19] <coreymon77> stdin: in case it matters
[12:20] <stdin> coreymon77: that looks ok, what does "sudo fdisk -l" show? (l is a lower case L)
[12:20] <stephan22222_> Mena_: can i do it without autoremove?
[12:20] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , dont think that
[12:20] <Ogi> someone knows how can I download video from my computer to my ipod on kubuntu?
[12:21] <stephan22222_> Mena_: my system is destoyed?
[12:21] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , no no no
[12:21] <stdin> Ogi: mount the iPod, and just copy it over
[12:21] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , sec plz
[12:21] <coreymon77> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8143/
[12:22] <coreymon77> stdin: will i be able to recover my system?
[12:22] <blizzzek> is there any upstream limitation per user in kpf or something? say 25 KB/s?
[12:22] <jarn> Is there a way to reverse the stereo channels?
[12:22] <stdin> coreymon77: it looks ok, try booting it again, should be working
[12:22] <coreymon77> stdin: it will be okay?
[12:22] <stdin> coreymon77: should be, if not just come back here
[12:23] <coreymon77> stdin: did fsck fix anything?
[12:23] <fost00> !fr
[12:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:23] <blizzzek> jarn: ??
[12:23] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , hmmm use the right ls i give you
[12:23] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , lst
[12:23] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , for now
[12:23] <jarn> blizzzek: So what normally comes out of right speaker would come out of the left and vice versa.
[12:23] <stdin> coreymon77: it checked it, and said it was ok now, so just give booting a shot
[12:23] <coreymon77> okay
[12:23] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , andmake upgrade i think it will upgrade apt-get
[12:23] <Mena_> ok
[12:24] <coreymon77> hopefully ill be back soon on my normal system
[12:24] <stephan22222_> Mena: apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:24] <blizzzek> jarn: my pals downstream is not in full use, mine upstream is not either.
[12:24] <jarn> blizzzek: ?
[12:24] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , no use the lst i give you
[12:25] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , and after as apdate make upgrade
[12:25] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , that should update and upgrade if needed
[12:25] <blizzzek> jarn: i cannot imagine what you are pointing at
[12:25] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , then your system is working fine
[12:26] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , and also a bout xserver-xorg
[12:26] <jarn> blizzzek: I want to reverse the sound. So that what normally would come out of the speaker on the left comes out of the one on the right and what normally comes out of the one on the right comes out of the one on the left.
[12:26] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , install it
[12:26] <stephan22222_> ok, i'm using the list aou gave me
[12:26] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:26] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , again
[12:27] <hawk_> #berly
[12:27] <Mena_> stdin,see this http://rafb.net/p/fBIeb896.html
[12:27] <blizzzek> jarn: oops, thats a misunderstanding, i posted my question ans saw you answer and thought that you mean me
[12:27] <Mena_> plz
[12:27] <jarn> blizzzek: I didn't post any answer at all. O.o
[12:28] <hawk_> !berly
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <Mena_> !bberyl
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bberyl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <Mena_> !beryl
[12:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:28] <stephan22222_> Mena_: it's again download some pacakges
[12:28] <blizzzek> jarn: ok... try to change the cables to your speakers ;)
[12:28] <stdin> Mena_, stephan22222_: tried "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg" yet?
[12:28] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay its upgrading
[12:28] <jarn> blizzzek: I can't. All they have is the single 1/8" jack.
[12:29] <hawk_> where can i go to get help with beryl
[12:29] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , i dont think he tried
[12:29] <blizzzek> jarn: then on your stereo, the outgoing ones
[12:29] <stephan22222_> stdin: i tried
[12:30] <jarn> blizzzek: Both sides are 1/8" connectors.
[12:30] <blizzzek> then i dunno
[12:31] <stephan22222_> Mena_: nothing changed
[12:31] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , for what the xsever
[12:32] <stephan22222_> creensaver-gl-extra: Depends: libgl1-mesaor
[12:32] <stephan22222_>                                   libgl1
[12:32] <stephan22222_>                          Depends: libglu1-mesa but it is not going to be installedor
[12:32] <stephan22222_>                                   libglu1
[12:32] <adydas> well well well
[12:32] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , do alt+ctrl+backspace and then come and try update and then upgrade and we will see
[12:33] <Mena_> this will restart
[12:33] <Mena_> and for thsi i thing every thing must go fine
[12:33] <Mena_> stdin, right
[12:33] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i don't think that i can restart without an working xserver
[12:34] <stephan22222_> Mena_: and i'm working on my box in the office via ssh from at hoem
[12:34] <pgraves> I added shortcuts to various applications to my panel at the bottom by right-clicking and doing Add Application to Panel, problem is ALL of the icons in the panel are HUGE, how can I make them smaller without resizing every icon on the system (I just want the panel to be smaller, not the K Menu'
[12:34] <stephan22222_> and via kde remote desktop
[12:34] <Mena_> i dont know much a bout  xserver :(
[12:35] <Mena_> stdin , what do you think
[12:35] <KaoticEvil> anyone running Beryl?
[12:35] <prak> does anyone know of pikdev versions that are compatible with kubuntu edgy?
[12:36] <stdin> Mena_: maybe try to install it again, with dpkg
[12:36] <stdin> Mena_: the deb should be in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:36] <Mena_> not me stephan
[12:37] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , try as he said
[12:37] <stephan22222_> stdin: how is the package called?
[12:37] <wimpies>  I have this dialog running from under adept-updater asking me for a nice value.  I cannot input any value (no textbox).  Clicking on next does not work (no value I presume) and cancel terminates installation
[12:38] <pgraves> How do I add a second toolbar to the bottom of my screen to go right above the panel
[12:38] <stdin> stephan22222_: try "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_all.deb"
[12:38] <Ogi> stdin: i try that way but it doesn't work
[12:39] <stephan22222_> pkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg:
[12:39] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-core; however:
[12:39] <stephan22222_>   Package xserver-xorg-core is not installed.
[12:39] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-video-all; however:
[12:39] <stephan22222_>   Package xserver-xorg-video-all is not installed.
[12:39] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-input-all; however:
[12:39] <stephan22222_>   Package xserver-xorg-input-all is not installed.
[12:39] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xorg depends on xkb-data | xkb-data-legacy; however:
[12:39] <stephan22222_>   Package xkb-data is not configured yet.
[12:39] <stephan22222_>   Package xkb-data-legacy is not installed.
[12:40] <stdin> stephan22222_: now do "sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:40] <prak> does anyone know of pikdev versions that are compatible with kubuntu edgy?
[12:40] <stephan22222_> stdin: wow, something is happaning
[12:40] <Mena_> heheheh good
[12:41] <stephan22222_> stdin, Mena_: it's installing !!
[12:41] <stdin> woot :P
[12:41] <Mena_> sorry if we were o around the problem with me heheh
[12:41] <Mena_> go*
[12:41] <Mena_> hhhe
[12:41] <Mena_> :D
[12:42] <Mena_> i am develop my self with the help of others :)
[12:42] <stephan22222_> stdin, Mena_: if this woks, where should i donate some money?
[12:42] <Mena_> hheheeheheh
[12:42] <Mena_> no money here
[12:43] <Mena_> its free support
[12:43] <Mena_> or if you wont donate
[12:43] <stephan22222_> yes?
[12:43] <Mena_> on www.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <Mena_> as i guess
[12:43] <Mena_> hehehe
[12:43] <KaoticEvil> 508MB to download for my upgrade :|
[12:43] <Mena_> i dont know ask stdin
[12:43] <Mena_> hehehehehe
[12:44] <fost00> !fr
[12:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:44] <KaoticEvil> is anyone here runnin Beryl?
[12:44] <Mena_> i dont have one maybe you can send money hhehehehe :D
[12:44] <Mena_> stdin , can he aupgrade to apt edgy
[12:44] <stephan22222_> wohoooo, it still installing
[12:44] <Mena_> cool
[12:45] <stdin> Mena_: it'll be part of the upgrade
[12:45] <Mena_> good
[12:46] <Mena_> we took a bout 2 hours heheh with me :)
[12:46] <Mena_> as i guess
[12:47] <stdin> I just remember having to do something like that when I did dapper -> edgy
[12:47] <stdin> but that was ages ago now
[12:47] <Mena_> heheh in any way good that its solved
[12:48] <stephan22222_> stdin: coul you explain why  try "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6.2_all.deb"  was the solution
[12:49] <stdin> stephan22222_: because it forced dpkg to install the package, which was what it was complaining about before
[12:49] <stephan22222_> stdin: but doing it, thowed a bunch of errors
[12:49] <Mena_> stdin , but we did autoclean
[12:49] <Mena_> stdin , how it diidnt removed
[12:50] <Mena_> stdin , bec of error
[12:50] <Mena_> stdin , in way  it didnt removed  :)
[12:51] <stdin> the errors after the dpkg command were just dependency errors, apt-get -f install fixed that, before the package wasn't installed right, with dpkg, it got reinstalled
[12:51] <Mena_> ohhhh ok
[12:53] <stephan22222_> no (here in germany it's 1 AM) i'll take a shower
[12:53] <stephan22222_> thanks guys
[12:53] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , if you need some tips if you need take this i memorizes some tips are good
[12:54] <Mena_> stephan22222_ ,
[12:54] <Mena_> Tips
[12:54] <Mena_> sudo apt-get install app
[12:54] <Mena_> sudo apt-get remove app
[12:54] <Mena_> To update your Sources
[12:54] <Mena_> sudo apt-get update
[12:55] <stephan22222_> :)
[12:55] <stdin> !apt
[12:55] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:55] <stdin> apt guide ^^ :)
[12:56] <Mena> oppppps sorry
[12:56] <Mena> i wantedt to paste the link
[12:56] <Mena> :( sorry :(
[12:56] <Mena> :( :( :(
[12:57] <Mena> that was a big mistake
[12:57] <Mena> stdin, sorry
[12:57] <Mena> :(
[12:57] <Mena> i wil go now
[12:57] <computerhermit> ????
[12:58] <stdin> you're just lucky Jucato isn't here :P
[12:58] <Mena> ohhhhhh yes
[12:58] <Mena> i didint mean that
[12:58] <Mena> i forget to take the lnk instead
[12:58] <Mena> :(
[12:58] <Mena> stephan22222_, http://rafb.net/p/qeUXWm10.html
[12:58] <Mena> stephan22222_, sorry :(
[12:59] <Mena> bye freiend and sorry for spam :(
[12:59] <Mena> friends*
[01:00] <computerhermit> vbox works great
[01:00] <stdin> yeah, it's cool
[01:01] <computerhermit> xp crashed in it already
[01:01] <stdin> wow, it must be as good as the real thing then :P
[01:01] <computerhermit> hehehe
[01:05] <stephan22222_> Mena: that one is cool
[01:09] <pgraves> ACHTUNG!
[01:10] <pgraves> Sorry... had to sneeze
[01:11] <fost00> !fr
[01:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:11] <pgraves> !en
[01:11] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:11] <pgraves> :p
[01:12] <Tudorphil> which one is better google earth or microsoft thingy?
[01:14] <SolidSource> any good DVD player programs out there besides LinDVD, Mplayer, or Kaffeine?
[01:15] <Tudorphil> vlc player
[01:17] <NormanN> .
[01:17] <SolidSource> VLC no good either
[01:18] <NormanN> totem
[01:18] <BluesKaj> Kaffeine works for me
[01:18] <NormanN> me too
[01:19] <SolidSource> kaffeine sucks, looking for powerdvd alternative
[01:19] <NormanN> try totem
[01:20] <BluesKaj> VLC plays some codecs that the others won't , but I removed it a s a browser plugin cuz it defaults to web windows media and refuses to work
[01:20] <SolidSource> totem isn't much different from kaffeine
[01:20] <NormanN> no lol
[01:21] <BluesKaj> mplyer does a decent job as a web content player for windows media
[01:23] <NormanN> then VLC is a good advice I thnk
[01:23] <stephan22222_> Mena: that one is cool
[01:23] <Apallo> has anyone installed edgy on an IBM t60?
[01:24] <stephan22222_> stdin: but doing it, thowed a bunch of errors
[01:24] <stephan22222_> ups
[01:24] <stephan22222_> stdin: it worked, updated finished, thanks
[01:25] <stdin> no problem :)
[01:28] <sampan> wen1ren2
[01:28] <coreymon77> stdin: are you still there?
[01:28] <stdin> yeah
[01:28] <coreymon77> stdin: well
[01:28] <coreymon77> stdin: good news is, i booted
[01:28] <coreymon77> stdin: odd news os
[01:28] <coreymon77> is
[01:29] <coreymon77> stdin: when i booted normally, it didnt work, i got the same screen (except the recovering journal bit wasnt there)
[01:30] <coreymon77> stdin: then, just for kicks (i doubted it would work). i booted using the recovery mode option for the kernel version in the grub menu
[01:30] <coreymon77> stdin: and it booted in text mode
[01:30] <coreymon77> stdin: then i ran kdm, and it worked
[01:30] <smoze_> anyone know anything about making scripts?
[01:31] <stdin> hmm, what exactly happened on the normal boot, what didn't work?
[01:31] <stdin> smoze_: depends what you want to do
[01:31] <coreymon77> stdin: it gave me the same screen as it did before
[01:31] <coreymon77> stdin: i wrote down exactly what it said if you want me to pastebin it
[01:31] <stdin> coreymon77:sure
[01:32] <smoze_> well, a simple script that handles files
[01:32] <stdin> smoze_: to do what?
[01:34] <coreymon77> stdin: wait a sec, i just gotta do something, then ill pastebin it
[01:34] <stdin> ok
[01:34] <echosyp> !sound | echosyp
[01:35] <smoze_> to use certain program with certain options to open file
[01:36] <SolidSource> ok, sucky, the mplayer plugin doesn't work in firefox...
[01:36] <BluesKaj> !audio
[01:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:36] <stdin> smoze_: then you'll just need "program -options $1" in the script, to open the 1st option passed to the script
[01:37] <smoze_> ok, thanks
[01:37] <BluesKaj> mozilla mplayer plugin ?
[01:37] <stdin> smoze_: you can also ask in #bash for some advanced help
[01:38] <SolidSource> yeah, it not wanting to work, firefox just comes up wanting to install windows media player
[01:38] <pirothezero> whats the difference between compiz, beryl, and emerald?
[01:39] <smoze_> stdin: thanks
[01:39] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, type 'about:plugins' in the FF address bar
[01:40] <SolidSource> blueskaj, oh its there
[01:40] <stdin> pirothezero: emerald is the theme manager for beryl, and beryl has more features then compiz and is easier to install in kubuntu
[01:40] <BluesKaj> enabled?
[01:40] <pirothezero> figured as much thanks
[01:41] <pirothezero> shouldn't have a problme installing beryl on dual display right ?
[01:41] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: of course, just not working
[01:41] <pirothezero> like it works for two screens atm
[01:41] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, do you have the vlc plugin there too ?
[01:41] <stdin> pirothezero: don't know, never tried, but I'm sure there's a howto out there somewhere :P
[01:41] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: no, don't have VLC-plugin installed
[01:41] <pirothezero> worth exploring ;> thanks
[01:42] <BluesKaj> ok good , cuz it interferes with wm
[01:43] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: doesn't even work with konq
[01:44] <BluesKaj> really? what site ?
[01:44] <SolidSource> www.imdb.com
[01:44] <SolidSource> just trying to watch movie trailors...www.youtube.com works though
[01:45] <BluesKaj> youtube uses flash anyway
[01:45] <ubuntu> slt tou le monde
[01:46] <ubuntu> !!
[01:46] <SolidSource> eh
[01:47] <epimeth> ahoy folks... I can't seem to log in to a mysql database from a remote machine
[01:47] <epimeth> GRANT ALL PRIVELEGES ON *.* FOR 'myuser'@'%' BLABLABLA
[01:47] <epimeth> GRANT ALL PRIVELEGES ON *.* FOR 'myuser'@'localhost' BLABLABLA
[01:48] <epimeth> I did both... I can log in locally, but not remotely
[01:48] <epimeth> any ideas?
[01:50] <epimeth> lsof showed that the port is open, btw
[01:50] <computerhermit> what kind of files you have in your database?
[01:50] <hawk_> how do i change my ip
[01:51] <epimeth> hawk_: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:51] <epimeth> its a file that stores network data
[01:52] <epimeth> alternatively you can use the KNetworkManager
[01:52] <epimeth> not sure if its installed in your distro, tho
[01:52] <hawk_> ok thanks, but will ifconfig interface set ip work
[01:52] <epimeth> should, but I think thats only a 'right now' solution... not sure if it writes to the interfaces file
[01:52] <epimeth> in fact, it probably doesn't
[01:53] <epimeth> iface eth0 inet static
[01:53] <epimeth>         address 192.168.2.2
[01:53] <epimeth>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[01:53] <epimeth>         gateway 192.168.2.1
[01:53] <hawk_> ok thanks, do you know where i can get help for berly from
[01:53] <soulrider> !beryl
[01:53] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:53] <epimeth> #ubuntu-effects
[01:54] <hawk_> thank you
[01:54] <epimeth> but they only support edgy and up... but if you come to them with feisty they yell at you for using a developmental distro
[01:54] <epimeth> :-)
[01:55] <hawk_> anyone know how to get azureus un firewalled
[01:56] <xoss> hi.. how do i reset my eth0? using ifconfig?
[01:56] <SolidSource> anyone got firefox (32bit) working with mplayer plugin on AMD64 (newest versions of everything)?
[01:56] <epimeth> xoss /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:56] <epimeth> thats for all
[01:56] <epimeth> ifdown eth0
[01:57] <epimeth> ifup eth0
[01:57] <epimeth> for just the one
[01:57] <Mena> :(
[01:57] <coreymon77> stdin: you still there?
[01:57] <Malay_Linux> Assalamualaikum w.b.t.
[01:57] <epimeth> what up mena?
[01:57] <Malay_Linux> Good morning
[01:57] <Mena> nothing
[01:57] <epimeth> morning?
[01:57] <stdin> coreymon77: yeah
[01:57] <coreymon77> morning?
[01:57] <epimeth> its 3am if thats what you mean
[01:58] <Mena> epimeth, realy here too
[01:58] <epimeth> where you at Mena?
[01:58] <Mena> Egypt
[01:58] <coreymon77> stdin: here is what it showed on my screen
[01:58] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8157/
[01:58] <hawk_> now if i use knetworkmanager will it put these setting in live and not mess up any of my internet programs
[01:58] <K`zan> Hi folks, tried 6.10 live CD and, unlike 6.08, it doesn't see my wireless card.  6.08 does not provide for WPA-PSK :-( on the live CD, does anyone know of a live CD that does provide for WPA-PSK?  Ancient laptop with too big a drive for linux to handle :-(.
[01:58] <epimeth> alikum salaam, Malay
[01:59] <Mena> heheh
[01:59] <coreymon77> it showed that and then stayed there, but my computer was doing something, i could hear it doing something the whole time and the activity light was on
[01:59] <coreymon77> stdin: anyways
[01:59] <coreymon77> stdin: im going to go watch tv now
[01:59] <epimeth> hawk: it disconnects the network and reconnects... wether your programs will die is up to the program
[01:59] <coreymon77> stdin: ill be back later
[01:59] <hawk_> ok thanks
[01:59] <stdin> coreymon77: lol, ok
[02:00] <epimeth> stdin... you up for a bit of playing with mysql?
[02:00] <epimeth> cuz I can't get mine to allow remote connections
[02:00] <epimeth> Mena_ ... why the name change?
[02:00] <stdin> epimeth: I know more about quantum physics than mysql :P
[02:00] <Mena_> bec i regstired with that one
[02:00] <epimeth> stdin... ironically enough... so do I :-)
[02:01] <computerhermit> stdin?????
[02:01] <epimeth> so register the other, too... not too dificuly
[02:01] <hawk_> how do i use this program it just keeps resting my internet connection and thats all no configration options
[02:01] <Mena_> epimeth, no some one else have it or me and i forget the passs
[02:01] <stdin> computerhermit: ??
[02:01] <BluesKaj> what's with the undersores anyway?
[02:01] <BluesKaj> score
[02:02] <epimeth> Mena: msg nickserv help link
[02:02] <Mena> epimeth, okay will see
[02:02] <xoss> thanks epimeth.. still cant connect my kubuntu box to the net..aahhh
[02:03] <epimeth> hawk: right-click on the little icon and click on "Static connection"
[02:03] <hawk_> there is no static connection
[02:03] <echosyp> i need help with my sound
[02:03] <epimeth> xoss: whats the cat of /etc/network/interfaces
[02:03] <epimeth> ?
[02:04] <epimeth> hawk: sorry... mine has it... do it manually through /etc/network/interfaces
[02:04] <epimeth> just edit the file to what I pasted before, but with your settings
[02:04] <computerhermit> stdin I took part in ufology and met some realy smart *nukeler Phyest*
[02:04] <hawk_> ok thanks
[02:04] <rob-west> im trying to install openttd its a game and i cant find SDL
[02:04] <echosyp> i have done everything on the ubuntu site to try and fix my sound
[02:05] <echosyp> and nothing
[02:05] <xoss> auto loiface lo inet loopback
[02:05] <echosyp> iv reinstalled alsa
[02:05] <xoss> auto lo - iface lo inet loopback
[02:05] <epimeth> xoss: no eth0?
[02:05] <echosyp> is there a conf file somewhere i might have edited to turn sound off
[02:05] <xoss> auto eth0
[02:05] <xoss> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:05] <BluesKaj> computerhermit, you have to quit listening to "coasttocoast AM " on the radio
[02:05] <epimeth> and its not picking up a dhcp server?
[02:06] <epimeth> xoss: $dhclient eth0
[02:06] <epimeth> whats the output?
[02:06] <xoss> yep.. the XPs can connect to the router but my kubuntu box cant
[02:06] <computerhermit> BluesKaj its been a min or two
[02:07] <epimeth> anybody have experience setting up a mysql server?  I've never had this problem before :-(
[02:07] <epimeth> and I've set up more than enough of them!!
[02:07] <echosyp> im still having sound problems mena
[02:07] <echosyp> and this ip is banned from #ubuntu too!
[02:07] <Mena> echoyp, hmmm okay
[02:08] <epimeth> echosyp: what did you do?
[02:08] <pirox> anyone using hellanzb and having script exceptions?
[02:08] <echosyp> but on the bright side, i removed the user accnt of the guy who got me banned
[02:08] <Mena> did you see this
[02:08] <Mena> !sound
[02:08] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:08] <echosyp> yeah, i followed that
[02:08] <echosyp> last option was to reinstall alsa, which i did
[02:08] <echosyp> and it still doesn't work
[02:08] <epimeth> are your speakers plugged in? :-p
[02:08] <echosyp> its a laptop
[02:08] <echosyp> so yes
[02:08] <Mena> echosyp, i realy dont know much
[02:09] <echosyp> its cool
[02:09] <echosyp> someone will... eventually
[02:09] <xoss> epimeth: no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[02:09] <Mena> the speakers inside the laptop right :)
[02:09] <echosyp> heh, yeah
[02:09] <Mena> so i gues it works
[02:09] <echosyp> i can reboot to windows and it works, but when i reinstalled alsa it removed gdm so i had to reinstall that to
[02:09] <Mena> th eproblem then with ubuntu
[02:09] <Malay_Linux> I am using Kopete at Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft...
[02:10] <epimeth> xoss: and you are connecting through a router with your current machine?
[02:10] <echosyp> and now, i get some blinking pale blue screen when i reboot/halt/logout/suspend
[02:10] <echosyp> and its pin stripped
[02:10] <echosyp> :-/
[02:10] <xoss> yes, im connected through a router...
[02:10] <Mena> echosyp, what do you renistalled
[02:11] <epimeth> with dhcp?
[02:11] <xoss> yes..
[02:11] <epimeth> are you sure you don't have mac address filtering set up?
[02:11] <echosyp> xoss, try setting a static ip and pinging the router
[02:11] <epimeth> you sure the network cable isn't broken?
[02:11] <xoss> on the router none..
[02:11] <rob-west> rob@rob-desktop:~/Downloads/openttd-0.5.0-source$ ./configure
[02:11] <rob-west> Makefile:201: *** You need to have SDL installed in order to run OpenTTD on UNIX. Use DEDICATED if you want to compile a CLI based server.  Stop.
[02:11] <rob-west> someone help
[02:11] <echosyp> install SDL
[02:11] <Mena> echosyp, did you renistalled xp or ubuntu
[02:12] <echosyp> neither
[02:12] <xoss> i'll try..
[02:12] <epimeth> lol @ mena... pale blue screen hehe
[02:12] <Mena> echosyp, ok
[02:12] <echosyp> just alsa, its associated packages, and gdm
[02:12] <Mena> ok
[02:13] <kat> brand new to kubuntu. does anyone know where sshd is? /etc/init.d/sshd isnt there
[02:13] <echosyp> apt-get insall ssh
[02:13] <kat> oh
[02:13] <kat> not there by default
[02:13] <kat> ty
[02:13] <echosyp> np
[02:16] <xoss> www
[02:16] <Mena_> echosyp, Do you know what is sound card
[02:17] <echosyp> atiixp
[02:17] <Mena_> echosyp, ok
[02:17] <xoss> destination host unreachable..
[02:18] <echosyp> thats with a static ip?
[02:18] <xoss> yep..
[02:18] <xoss> this pc and my kubuntu box is on the same network router..
[02:18] <echosyp> are you sure your cable isn't bad/unplugged
[02:18] <echosyp> or is this wireless
[02:18] <epimeth> xoss: I *told* you to check the cable :-p
[02:19] <echosyp> maybe you set the static ip to a diff. subnet
[02:19] <echosyp> what router is it?
[02:19] <echosyp> or rather, make sure you set your static ip to the same subnet as the router, make sure the cable is good and plugged in,
[02:20] <red> I need ATI/nvidia display drivers
[02:20] <echosyp> and if that doesn't do it, make sure the router isn't set to just give out one dhcp lease
[02:20] <epimeth> red: which is it?
[02:20] <epimeth> xoss: and that mac filtering isn't on
[02:20] <red> ati radeon x1300 is what my card is
[02:20] <xoss> surecom router.. ive already tried it yesterday.. fiddled a bit with the router.. then now my XPs can connect by kubuntu cant..
[02:20] <epimeth> !ati
[02:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:21] <epimeth> xoss: your XPs thru dhcp?
[02:21] <xoss> but*
[02:21] <K`zan> Thanks anyhow folks.
[02:21] <xoss> yes, same config as yesterday..
[02:21] <xoss> automatic IP for XPs
[02:22] <echosyp> xoss, what interface is it?
[02:22] <echosyp> eth0
[02:22] <xoss> eth0
[02:22] <echosyp> do you have another cable you can try?
[02:22] <echosyp> thats my initial assumption
[02:22] <xoss> hmm.. guys its ok now.. thanks for the help.. damn cables!
[02:23] <echosyp> it was the cable?
[02:23] <xoss> stupid me!
[02:23] <echosyp> haha
[02:23] <echosyp> it happens to us all
[02:23] <epimeth> lol
[02:23] <epimeth> and its always the last thing we check
[02:23] <echosyp> yeah
[02:23] <xoss> swapped cables with another guys pc.. now he has gets the problem lol
[02:23] <epimeth> cuz "make sure computer is plugged in" is #10 on the ole' checklist :-0
[02:25] <echosyp> i wish my sound worked
[02:25] <echosyp> :-/
[02:25] <K`zan> wish my wireless card worked with the live cd :-).
[02:25] <echosyp> why doesn't it?
[02:25] <echosyp> or is that why you are here?
[02:26] <K`zan> Dunno, 6.08 worked but didn't have the wpa-psk facility, 6.10 doesn't even see it.
[02:26] <K`zan> Downloading knoppix now :-(.
[02:26] <echosyp> lspci doesn't show it?
[02:26] <K`zan> probably does, didn't check.
[02:26] <echosyp> i have the same issue with a pcmcia card with prism3 ssf chipset
[02:27] <epimeth> somehow I get the feeling that edgy would have better wireless support than knoppix....
[02:27] <echosyp> but the backtrack live cd works with the card
[02:27] <pirox> anyone know if you have to remove the load glx module out of xorg.conf for berly/xserver-xgl?
[02:27] <K`zan> if that is so I'm stuck with wincrap :-(.
[02:27] <echosyp> yes
[02:27] <echosyp> pirox, what card do you have?
[02:27] <K`zan> backtrack?
[02:27] <echosyp> you don't usually have to
[02:28] <echosyp> K`zan its a security suite live cd
[02:28] <epimeth> why don't you install kubuntu instead of just using the livecd... you can download the drivers manually... I had to do it that way, myself
[02:28] <pirox> geforce 6800
[02:28] <pirox> just installed the xerver-xgl
[02:28] <pirox> and i read some where that you have to remove glx but its not on the howto i am following now
[02:28] <echosyp> pirox
[02:28] <pirox> so i was curious if that was a if then do this else forget about it
[02:28] <echosyp> you don't need Xgl for nvidia cards
[02:29] <pirox> well dammit
[02:29] <echosyp> Xgl is for ati cards, (usually)
[02:29] <echosyp> #beryl
[02:29] <echosyp> ;-)
[02:29] <epimeth> and #kubuntu-effects
[02:29] <echosyp> id go with #beryl
[02:29] <echosyp> heh
[02:30] <pirox> following the guide at http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[02:30] <pirox> and its like doesnt say anything about nvidia cards
[02:30] <K`zan> where does one find this "backtrack" google isn't helping :-(?
[02:30] <echosyp> thats because you are in the Xgl section
[02:30] <echosyp> one sec
[02:31] <epimeth> google backtrack linux distro maybe?
[02:31] <pirox> i am back on the howto from the forusm for nvidia
[02:31] <echosyp> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia
[02:31] <K`zan> epimeth: will try that, thanks.
[02:31] <pirox> i did apt-get --purge remove xserver-xgl and now did nvidia-glx
[02:31] <echosyp> K`zan google "rexploit"
[02:32] <echosyp> or remote-exploit.org
[02:32] <echosyp> i think
[02:32] <epimeth> bbl guys...
[02:33] <pirox> thanks the script is all i need echosyp
[02:33] <echosyp> np
[02:34] <echosyp> script?
[02:34] <Mena> echosyp, get any thing :)
[02:34] <echosyp> no
[02:34] <pirox> ya theres a kubuntu install script
[02:34] <Mena> echosyp, ok
[02:34] <echosyp> iv been helping
[02:34] <pirox> looks like its doing the job
[02:34] <echosyp> k
[02:34] <echosyp> good
[02:34] <epimeth|away> hay! how do I get nickserv to identify a nick as the master... its got it backwards!
[02:34] <Mena> echosyp, ok see agian if you didnt
[02:34] <echosyp> what?
[02:35] <Mena> echosyp, never mind :)
[02:35] <pgraves> Guys, with virtual desktops, can you make it so that your windows in the panel do not extend to other virtual desktops?
[02:36] <pgraves> I.E. If I open firefox in Desktop #1, I won't see it in Desktop #2
[02:36] <Jucato> pgraves: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[02:36] <Mena> right click on desktop then Configuredesktop
[02:36] <epimeth|away> msg nickserv help unlink
[02:37] <Mena> pgraves, Configure Desktop>>>behavior>>>remove the selected for the first option
[02:37] <adydas__> Berlys not as hard to install as i was under the imp[ression of
[02:37] <epimeth|away> aha!  the correct nick is master now! muahahaha
[02:38] <epimeth|away> and now I'm really going away :-)
[02:38] <pgraves> Thanks!
[02:38] <epimeth|away> adydas__ ... try it with an nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400
[02:38] <Mena> Welcome:)
[02:38] <epimeth|away> then we'll talk :-)
[02:38] <adydas__> ah, well
[02:38] <adydas__> it was fine for my 7900GT
[02:39] <epimeth|away> sure... a new card works! :-p
[02:39] <xoss> how do set my desktop icons smaller?
[02:39] <epimeth|away> newish anyway
[02:40] <pgraves> Thanks Guys!!!
[02:40] <pgraves> So Far Im loving my new Kubuntu Workstation I setup
[02:40] <epimeth|away> xoss: system settings->appearance->Icons
[02:41] <epimeth|away> and now I'm really really going... nobody say anything till I'm gone damnit!
[02:41] <NeX> Hi there
[02:42] <pgraves> My job normally involves accessing a web-based software, going through e-mail, coding, managing Windows Servers (Via RDP), Migrating Data/Databases, & handling client phone calls/appearances....
[02:42] <epimeth|away> btw, mena... mena is registered... just link the two together under mena_ with its password
[02:42] <pgraves> So I've been tweaking my system to make the perfect setup
[02:42] <NeX> I'm looking for an installation guide or something to install and configure my Inventel usb wifi node on Kubuntu
[02:42] <Mena_> epimehlaways, ok
[02:42] <Mena_> epimehlaways, i am trying :)
[02:43] <xoss> thnx epimeth|away!
[02:43] <pgraves> g2g.... Thanks again everyone
[02:44] <Mena_> epimehlaways, so i must be Mena
[02:44] <Mena_> epimehlaways, then link to Mena_
[02:45] <crackhead> question: where can i find a master list of all the kubuntu repositories in the world?
[02:46] <fiyawerx> hey guys, how can i get a list of partitions not mounted?
[02:46] <Mena> crackkhead, i dont think you can but you can creat
[02:46] <Mena> crackkhead,  your owen one
[02:46] <Mena> crackkhead,  but carfully
[02:46] <megavolt_> fiyawerx: there is a tool called kwikdisk, i used it some time ago
[02:47] <prak> is there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?
[02:47] <Archon> if i 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' with a totally minimalistic ubuntu installation, will it also give me that nice kubuntu startup screen?
[02:47] <Mena> fiyawerx, you can know wis you partition editro if you want to use it
[02:48] <crackhead> mena: where is there at least a substantial list of kubuntu repos in the world?
[02:50] <cpk1> !easysource
[02:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:50] <NeX> I'm looking for an installation guide or something to install and configure my Inventel usb wifi node on Kubuntu
[02:50] <NeX> anyone an idea ?
[02:51] <prak> !sdcc
[02:51] <ubotu> sdcc: Small Device C Compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.0-4 (edgy), package size 1108 kB, installed size 2804 kB
[02:51] <Jucato> crackhead: the only repositories that are officially supported are the ones in sources.list, the one from canoncial, and the one from kubuntu.org
[02:51] <prak> is there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?
[02:52] <crackhead> jucato: are there other "useful" and "popular" repositories, even if they're not supported?
[02:52] <megavolt_> where does (k)ubuntu put its java VMs ?
[02:53] <crackhead> jucato: will those repos give me access to all the tens of thousands of programs i read about being such a big attraction to the kubuntu/related distro?
[02:53] <Mena> crackhead, this lst for all repo but for edgy bonlu if you cant creat you own one bec this my lst and its enable most supportted repo as i guess  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8166/
[02:54] <Mena> but*
[02:54] <Mena> juacto, you may also check it
[02:54] <prak> is there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?
[02:54] <Mena> juacto, i mean to see if it was correct
[02:54] <Mena> jucato,*
[02:55] <apallo> hello
[02:55] <Mena> Hello!
[02:56] <cj_sze> hello
[02:56] <cj_sze> hello
[02:56] <cj_sze> hi
[02:56] <cj_sze> hi Cyco
[02:56] <Cyco> hello!
[02:56] <cj_sze> hi Mena
[02:57] <Mena> Hi
[02:57] <cj_sze> hi to all
[02:57] <jarn> How do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?
[02:57] <mom_> hi and why is this on my system?
[02:58] <Jucato> crackhead: the official repositories alone hold over 20,000 packages
[02:58] <Jucato> !away > epimeth|away
[02:59] <prak> is there anyone who's familiar working with sdcc?
[02:59] <ComputerHermit> lol mom
[02:59] <Jucato> epimeth: please turn off your public away messages
[03:00] <prak> in particular, installing sdcc nightly snapshots instead of release versions?
[03:00] <epimeth> jucato... okay
[03:00] <Jucato> Mena: looks ok. except for the beryl repos. those are the official ubuntu repos
[03:00] <epimeth> but why?
[03:00] <crackhead> what exactly are the beryl repos?
[03:00] <epimeth> I just screwed up trying to figured out how to be "back"
[03:00] <epimeth> :-)
[03:00] <Mena> ok
[03:00] <apallo> i can't get the sound working on my t60
[03:00] <epimeth> mom_ what is what?
[03:01] <Cyco> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main (BERYL REPO)
[03:01] <apallo> i already looked on the wiki and it says that the sound should work out of the box
[03:01] <Mena> crackhead, For Program Called Beryl To make your Desktop on 3D
[03:01] <Mena> !beryl  | crackhead
[03:01] <ubotu> crackhead: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:02] <Dasnipa> hey is there an easy way to find the console command to run a program you have gotten via the package menu? im sshed in so i dont have access to my K-menu
[03:02] <Cyco> dasnipa try man -k keyword
[03:03] <crackhead> does anyone know how to make sure kubuntu is taking full advantage of a dual-core amd?
[03:03] <Cyco> or type the first letter and hit tab till you get a completion of commands
[03:03] <Mena> Dasnipa, you can just type the Apps name and it will open up if you mean that
[03:04] <Dasnipa> Mena, not always true
[03:04] <Mena> Dasnipa, ok
[03:04] <Dasnipa> Mena, in this case im looking for the command to run pouetchess
[03:04] <epimeth> nice! I didn't know man had a directory!  apropos is sweet ^.^
[03:05] <Mena> Dasnipa, i dont know it :)
[03:05] <Cyco> has anyone setup a test environment with KVM - - > do you know the extensions that your processor must meet in order to have acceptable speed
[03:05] <Mena> Dasnipa, heheh :)
[03:05] <kat> anyone know how to su?
[03:05] <epimeth> there there
[03:05] <Dasnipa> Mena, i found it... it actually uses capitalizations pouetChess
[03:05] <epimeth> !sodoers
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sodoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <epimeth> !sudo
[03:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:05] <apallo> my sound isn't working...for no reason that i can fathom
[03:05] <Mena> Dasnipa, ok
[03:06] <kat> yeah, i know about sudo. can i su?
[03:06] <epimeth> always
[03:06] <Mena> apallo, it worked befor
[03:06] <apallo> using a different laptop
[03:06] <Cyco> sudo -i to become root kat
[03:06] <kat> ty
[03:06] <epimeth> su = 'switch user' its part of the linux core
[03:06] <apallo> i just installed edgy and the sound isn't working
[03:07] <Mena> apallo, check the kmixer
[03:07] <Mena> alt+f2
[03:07] <Mena> apallo, and type kmixer
[03:07] <Mena> not kmixer
[03:07] <epimeth> damn... learn something every day... I didn't know about sudo -i
[03:07] <apallo> i think it might be crashed, just a sec
[03:07] <kat> no sound?
[03:08] <epimeth> I just sudo passwd as the first thing I do :-)
[03:08] <kat> do you have onboard sound as well as a sound card?
[03:08] <apallo> ok, got it up
[03:08] <Mena> ok
[03:08] <Mena> apallo, see if it was muted
[03:08] <apallo> not muted
[03:08] <apallo> that was the first thing i checked :)
[03:08] <Mena> apallo, or enable any other option
[03:09] <Mena> hmm ok
[03:09] <Mena> apallo, did you chech the help page
[03:09] <Mena> !sound
[03:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:09] <apallo> thanks
[03:09] <Mena> check*
[03:09] <kat> apallo: do you have onboard sound as well as a sound card?
[03:09] <Mena> apallo, ok bec i dont have much inf mybe some one other wil hlep
[03:09] <apallo> just onboard
[03:10] <kat> is it seen in alsamixer?
[03:10] <surgy> true or false...... kubuntu finds its roots in gentoo as well as debian ?
[03:10] <kat> false
[03:10] <Cyco> lol
[03:10] <Cyco> flase
[03:10] <Cyco> false
[03:10] <Jucato> what's the prize?
[03:10] <kat> there is nothing gentoo about ubuntu
[03:11] <Cyco> rc-config delete cupsd (gentoo) sysv-rc-conf (ubuntu) -->NO
[03:11] <adydas_> kat: Yes you can if you really want to go SU
[03:12] <kat> gentoo would be: rc-update del cupd default
[03:12] <Cyco> haha thnx kat - -previous worked on some sabayon though!
[03:12] <kat> i dont know how
[03:13] <echosyp> fix my sound!
[03:13] <kat> we didnt put it in sabayon
[03:13] <Mena> jucato , may help you echo
[03:13] <Mena> heheh :)
[03:13] <Jucato> O.o
[03:13] <Jucato> sorry, not a sound person
[03:13] <Mena> heheheh
[03:13] <Mena> heheheh O.o
[03:13] <echosyp> boo
[03:14] <kat> whats wrong with your sound?
[03:14] <Cyco> anyone have the new nvidia 680i boards out with 6600 intel chip?
[03:14] <echosyp> it doesn't work, but it looks like it should
[03:14] <kat> does it show in alsa?
[03:14] <echosyp> yes
[03:14] <Cyco> echosyp you do?
[03:14] <apallo> echo, are you on a t60?
[03:14] <kat> is it muted in alsa (M below the level)
[03:14] <echosyp> iv reinstalled alsa too
[03:14] <epimeth> Cyco: new board?  whats that?
[03:14] <Cyco> motherboard
[03:14] <epimeth> ohhhhhh
[03:14] <epimeth> whoa
[03:15] <echosyp> cyco, no i wasn't talking to you
[03:15] <epimeth> I haven't seen one of those in 6 years
[03:15] <epimeth> :-)
[03:15] <echosyp> sorry
[03:15] <echosyp> apallo, no im not on a t60
[03:15] <echosyp> i have an atiixp
[03:15] <apallo> oh, heh, i am having the same problem...my sound isn't working
[03:15] <Cyco> http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/22/680i_motherboard_comparison_part_2/ picking one up seeing if anyone has any problems since its so new
[03:15] <Mena> laptops problem whooohaaa
[03:15] <Mena> O.o
[03:16] <ComputerHermit> !Players
[03:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:16] <CShadowRun> is there a place with a list of all the software that comes free with ubuntu?
[03:16] <epimeth> Cyco... somehow I get the feeling that it will work, just not fully supported just yet
[03:16] <ComputerHermit> !Totem
[03:16] <epimeth> CShadowRun: www.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <Cyco> thats my guess too
[03:16] <kat> ComputerHermit: amarok is the only one you need to knwo ;)
[03:17] <ComputerHermit> ty
[03:17] <echosyp> i bet amarok is bloated
[03:17] <epimeth> yes!!!! Adept has been fixed!!! w00t!!!!
[03:17] <kat> amarok owns all other player
[03:17] <epimeth> don't get me wrong... aptitude is great... but this is a *desktop* not a *server*... go gui!
[03:18] <Malay_Linux> Hi
[03:18] <Mena> Hello!
[03:18] <epimeth> kat: my amarok refuses to populate playlists... the only thing I can listen to is the stupid default message
[03:18] <infocrash> kat yes it does, i just configured amarok to work with my friend's archos 604
[03:18] <kat> and it autodetects my ipods
[03:18] <echosyp> so, anyone know what i could try to get my sound working
[03:18] <infocrash> yup
[03:19] <kat> fetched album covers
[03:19] <kat> etc
[03:19] <epimeth> apallo: you ever tried to use apt-get to search?  cuz that ones a killer :-)
[03:19] <kat> and i use a mysql database to manage everything
[03:19] <kat> which is fast
[03:19] <Mena> Echosyp, go to the help or post on froums
[03:19] <epimeth> amarok connects to mysql?
[03:19] <epimeth> cool
[03:19] <Mena> forums*
[03:19] <jarn> How do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?
[03:19] <echosyp> omg
[03:19] <echosyp> nvm
[03:19] <echosyp> i got it
[03:19] <echosyp> wtf
[03:19] <echosyp> oops
[03:19] <Mena> !orums | Echosyp
[03:19] <echosyp> sorry
[03:19] <kat> unmute it?
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about orums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <infocrash> epimeth are your songs on a windows partitions?
[03:20] <echosyp> kat... yeah
[03:20] <echosyp> :(
[03:20] <echosyp> heh
[03:20] <kat> i told you earlier
[03:20] <kat> heh
[03:20] <echosyp> i tried
[03:20] <epimeth> you're kidding, right? amarok can't open songs on ntfs partitions?
[03:20] <echosyp> i had to use alsamixer
[03:20] <kat> sure it can
[03:20] <kat> thats what i told you, echosyp
[03:20] <Mena> Laptops Sound problem Solved O.o
[03:20] <Mena> heheh
[03:20] <echosyp> i didn't realize it was still muted when i turned it up
[03:21] <epimeth> #2 on todays "forgot to plug it in" category
[03:21] <echosyp> haha
[03:21] <echosyp> yeah
[03:21] <infocrash> i think i amaroc had an issue with smb, but ubuntu by default sets windows partitons to root vieable only
[03:21] <epimeth> infocrash: its not smb... its mounted
[03:21] <epimeth> its on a local machine
[03:22] <echosyp> speaking of
[03:22] <kat> plus read only is fine to play music
[03:22] <echosyp> how can i set a partition to mount not as read only
[03:22] <echosyp> i want ot be able to write to my windows partitoin
[03:22] <infocrash> epimethon: a windows partiton?
[03:22] <epimeth> ntfs, yes
[03:22] <echosyp> yeah
[03:22] <echosyp> heh
[03:22] <echosyp> i use windows for skool
[03:22] <echosyp> and i still can't spell
[03:22] <epimeth> and whats with adding "on" to my name? :-p
[03:23] <infocrash> can you go into the partition as a regular user?
[03:23] <epimeth> infocrash: yup
[03:23] <Mena> if you like reading go here
[03:23] <kat> what is the apt-get command to update system?
[03:23] <Mena> !permisions
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about permisions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <epimeth> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:23] <epimeth> and then apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <kat> ty
[03:23] <infocrash> does amarok give you any type of errors?
[03:24] <epimeth> but first you run an apt-get update to update your sources
[03:24] <kat> i have been a gentoo'r for years. my first time really playing with a debian system
[03:24] <epimeth> infocrash: nope... it just freezes up
[03:24] <epimeth> kat: what made you switch?
[03:25] <epimeth> infocrash: actually... freezes up isn't the right word.  I can still use it... it just doesn't load anything to the playlist
[03:25] <echosyp> yes
[03:25] <echosyp> but i can't write to it
[03:25] <echosyp> or are oyu not talking to me
[03:25] <kat> root@kat-desktop:~# apt-get upgrade
[03:25] <kat> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:25] <kat> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:25] <kat> err
[03:25] <kat> sry didnt knoqw it would paste that much
[03:25] <kat> i'm not switching
[03:25] <epimeth> gets stuck at Populating Playlst ("100%" )
[03:25] <kat> i am setting up kubuntu for my wife, Kat
[03:26] <kat> epimeth: add 10 albums at a time. it is a problem qith sqlite
[03:26] <kat> *with
[03:26] <echosyp> so, how do i change the permissions mounted file systems so that i can write to them
[03:26] <echosyp> wow
[03:26] <echosyp> lag is bad
[03:26] <epimeth> kat: one song... and I don't appreciate your sarcasm, buddy!
[03:26] <epimeth> you wanna take it outside?
[03:27] <kat> ?
[03:27] <kat> 10 albums at a time is reasonable
[03:27] <epimeth> yes... but I'm trying only one
[03:27] <kat> echosyp: i dont know how ubuntu deals with ntfs, but i use ntfs-fuse
[03:28] <kat> i dunno if it is in the ubuntu kernel
[03:28] <kat> you guys may use ntfs-3g
[03:28] <epimeth> kat: is adept open?  do you have aptitude open in a different console?
[03:28] <infocrash> epimeth try opening amarok from a terminal and then try to pupulate the playlist
[03:28] <kat> epimeth: no
[03:28] <Mena> !opera
[03:28] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:28] <infocrash> epimeth see if it gives you any error messges
[03:29] <epimeth> kat: try restarting your machine... much easier than trying to find all the locks
[03:29] <kat> i got it
[03:30] <kat> it was running in background for some reason
[03:30] <epimeth> amarok uses ruby?  niiiice
[03:30] <kat> ps aux | grep apt
[03:30] <kat> that found it
[03:30] <kat> oh, i am fully upgraded
[03:31] <kat> sweetness
[03:31] <Mena> ont to maek your screen saver as amarok when playing somthing go here or for Fsamarok www.kde-look.org :P
[03:31] <Mena> heheh
[03:31] <epimeth> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[03:31] <epimeth>   Major opcode:  144
[03:31] <epimeth>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:31] <epimeth>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:31] <epimeth> Failed to open device
[03:31] <epimeth> this appears 4 times
[03:31] <kat> thats fine
[03:31] <epimeth> I don't doubt that :-)
[03:31] <kat> that isnt a bad error
[03:32] <ComputerHermit> yes kat because this is what I have
[03:32] <kat> hold on a sec, i am going back over to my computer.
[03:32] <ComputerHermit> heheh more then 4 time I got majior sound issues
[03:33] <epimeth> but did that prevent amarok from loading a song?
[03:33] <jarn> How do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?
[03:33] <ComputerHermit> canyou upgrade with apt-get upgrade?
[03:33] <epimeth> cuz xmms works fine
[03:33] <infocrash> epimeth sorry i meant run amarokapp
[03:33] <epimeth> right
[03:33] <infocrash> that will dump errors onto your terminal
[03:33] <automan> back
[03:34] <automan> <--- kat
[03:34] <automan> well\
[03:34] <bonbonthejon> what is the irc command to set you back from away
[03:35] <|PrinCo|> #projectoX la nueva sala en espaol para ayuda sobre temas relacionados con windows y linux ;) todo los temas/probemas sera solucionados
[03:36] <epimeth> amarok is stuck now... kill didn't kill it!!!
[03:36] <infocrash> x it
[03:36] <master_> hello
[03:36] <Mena> Hello!
[03:37] <Mena> :O.o
[03:37] <epimeth> there... killed the wrong process
[03:37] <bonbonthejon> hi
[03:37] <epimeth> :-)
[03:37] <master_> okay, looks like its working
[03:37] <master_> just installed kubuntu
[03:37] <master_> first time linux user
[03:37] <epimeth> bonbonthejon: /back
[03:37] <ComputerHermit> apt-get upgrade dident dump error's in my Term
[03:37] <ibert> hi! I miss the menu in konqueror suddenly. How can I get it back?
[03:38] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: thanks, i thought it was doing /away with no message
[03:38] <master_> i saw the cool 3d desktop on the Mandiva site, how can i do that in KDE for Kubuntu?
[03:38] <bonbonthejon> ibert: try control-m
[03:38] <epimeth> bonbonthejon: thats to set you as "away" with no message :-)
[03:38] <Mena> Master_, you can use Beryl
[03:38] <Mena> !betyl
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about betyl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <ibert> bonbonthejon: thanx! thats it!
[03:38] <epimeth> tho I made the same mistake not half an hour ago...
[03:38] <Mena> !beryl
[03:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:38] <apallo> grrr, still no sound
[03:38] <apallo> heh
[03:39] <master_> cool, i'll go there now
[03:39] <Mena> Master_, ok
[03:39] <epimeth> infocrash: so far no errors
[03:39] <epimeth> besides the one I showed you
[03:39] <epimeth> I'll try populating the playlist now
[03:40] <infocrash> k
[03:40] <master_> so far this kicks windows a$$
[03:40] <master_> :)
[03:40] <epimeth> this time I got a popup saying "No MP3 support" but I can't click on "yes" to install mp3 support...
[03:40] <epimeth> and tehre are no errors in my console
[03:41] <epimeth> it totally froze up... I killed it
[03:41] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: that x error you had is common, dont worry about that
[03:42] <epimeth> bonbon: what x error?
[03:43] <epimeth> infocrash: should I install the amarok-engines package?
[03:43] <apallo> !sound
[03:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:43] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: the x erro: baddevice
[03:43] <epimeth> ahh
[03:43] <epimeth> yea
[03:43] <epimeth> I know
[03:43] <epimeth> I was just letting infocrash know what the output I was getting was
[03:44] <ComputerHermit> what is the most supported sound card for this
[03:44] <infocrash> well did you install that script to enable mp3 support?
[03:44] <epimeth> infocrash which script?
[03:44] <epimeth> xmms plays my mp3s
[03:45] <infocrash> on kubuntu amarok prompts you with a script to install mp3 support
[03:45] <epimeth> when?
[03:45] <epimeth> where?
[03:45] <epimeth> SHOW ME!!!!!!
[03:45] <megavolt_> when i rightclick on my desktop -> configure -> behavior -> device icons   i uncheck "show device icons" but still the icons for usb drives / CDs pop up as soon as i connect them / insert them - why ?
[03:46] <infocrash> hold, it did forme when i first tried to play an mp3
[03:46] <apallo> it seems that kubuntu doesn't support my audio chipset
[03:46] <megavolt_> checking "sho device icons" and manually unchecking the one for e.g. empty dvd doesnt change anything, the device icon for empty dvd still is on the desktop if i insert an empty dvd
[03:47] <stdin> feature of kubuntu edgy+
[03:47] <chad> is there a simple wireless manager I can add to my panel or desktop?
[03:47] <epimeth> chad: KNetworkManager
[03:47] <apallo> knetworkmanager
[03:48] <chad> do I just install that from synaptic?
[03:48] <epimeth> infocrash: I told you... it popped up but I couldn't click on it
[03:48] <bonbonthejon> chad: there are a few ways to install it
[03:48] <stdin> !knetworkmanager
[03:48] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[03:48] <apallo> chad: sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[03:48] <chad> ah okay...just do that from a terminal?
[03:48] <ComputerHermit> hehe
[03:49] <dariodelapuente> hello people
[03:49] <dariodelapuente> :P
[03:49] <bonbonthejon> hi
[03:49] <infocrash> epimeth did you tryed hitting the space bar? to press it?
[03:49] <infocrash> also did you installed the xine engine?
[03:49] <crackhead> question: what are the best codec packages to dl/install for being able to play all the non-included/possibly proprietary formats?
[03:49] <epimeth> I tried to click, it didn't click, I switched back to Konversation to let you know this, when I tried to switch back, the windows were totally white (as in frozen)
[03:49] <chad> thanks apallo!
[03:50] <dariodelapuente> hey howto install ati propietary drivers in kubuntu feisty???
[03:50] <bonbonthejon> !ati
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <stdin> crackhead: probably w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs is all you'll need
[03:50] <infocrash> epimeth can you just copy one mp3 to your home directory and point amarok to it so it will give you the prompt? and allow you ro run the script?
[03:50] <crackhead> stdin: are those the package names? i cant find w32codecs
[03:50] <stdin> dariodelapuente: Feisty question on #ubuntu+1 , but you should just be able to follow the Edgy guide
[03:51] <epimeth> hmmm...why isn't ntfs-configuration-tool not working?
[03:51] <stdin> crackhead: this is how you install it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[03:51] <TomSwift> hello?
[03:51] <bonbonthejon> hi
[03:52] <dariodelapuente> ok thanks for your info
[03:52] <TomSwift> anyone know about problems with ipv6 and ubuntu?
[03:52] <bonbonthejon> !ipv6
[03:52] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:52] <TomSwift> or about:blank in firefox?
[03:52] <epimeth> TomSwift: none afaik
[03:53] <nonuda_> !aptget
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <stdin> !apt
[03:53] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:53] <bonbonthejon> !ipv6 | TomSwift
[03:53] <ubotu> TomSwift: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:53] <epimeth> great... now amarok doesn't even run anymore
[03:53] <nonuda_> thanks
[03:53] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: open adept and try to reinstall it
[03:54] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: see if that fixes it
[03:55] <infocrash> epimeth see if its in running int the background
[03:56] <infocrash> use ps -ef |grep amarok
[03:56] <bonbonthejon> infocrash: i was just going to say that
[03:56] <crackhead> question: how does one ensure kubuntu is taking maximum advantage of a dual core amd chip?
[03:57] <fyrmedic> What kernel module should I install to get my wireless network adapter working?
[03:58] <stdin> crackhead: have the -generic kernel ?
[03:58] <crackhead> fyrmedic, the kernel module may not make a big difference. a lot aren't supported. you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper or acx or other workarounds. read up on 'em.
[03:58] <crackhead> stdin: yeah, generic.
[03:58] <epimeth> kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-leroy/klauncherYIbPnb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-leroy/amarokxzlhrc.slave-socket
[03:58] <epimeth> does this mean anything to you guys?
[03:59] <stdin> crackhead: then it is
[03:59] <crackhead> then it is what?
[03:59] <fyrmedic> crackhead; thanx. I just bought a notebook and am about to do an install. Was hoping it would be easy.
[03:59] <stdin> crackhead: [02:56]  <crackhead> question: how does one ensure kubuntu is taking maximum advantage of a dual core amd chip?
[03:59] <stdin> crackhead: with the -generic kernel, it is
[03:59] <apallo> i have done everything on those sites, and still my sound isn't working
[03:59] <crackhead> oh.. gotcha..
[04:00] <crackhead> question: what's the best way to run windows apps on the kubuntu platform?
[04:00] <Hirvinen> !wine | crackhead
[04:00] <ubotu> crackhead: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:01] <epimeth> brb folks
[04:01] <bonbonthejon> fyrmedic: it depends on the wireless chipset
[04:01] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: either wine, or vmware
[04:01] <apallo> !edgy
[04:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:02] <stdin> crackhead: you can also use a virtual machine, like VMware, Qemu, or VirtualBox
[04:03] <fyrmedic> bonbonthejon;  I am still trying to figure that one out. Does GemTek sound familiar? I know that in stupid Vista it uses a Broadcom driver.
[04:03] <bonbonthejon> fyrmedic: broadcom is the chipset, you can use ndiswrapper
[04:03] <apallo> i think i am going to go back to windows
[04:03] <apallo> bye all
[04:04] <ComputerHermit> noooooooo
[04:04] <Hirvinen> crackhead: In case your application doesn't work with Wine, then there's commercial Crossover Office and Cedega, which use partially the same code base, the latter being almost completely gaming-oriented. If even those don't work, then there are solutions for running a full-blown Windows installation under a virtual machine such as free Xen or proprietary(though beer-free) VMWare.
[04:04] <ComputerHermit> i use virtualbox it works fine for me
[04:05] <fyrmedic> bonbonthejon; SWEET!!!!!!!!  Do you know if that is on the Edgy install?
[04:05] <Hirvinen> For full virtualization solutions, there are a lot of alternatives. See Wikipedia for feature comparisons between them.
[04:05] <bonbonthejon> !ndiswrapper | fyrmedic
[04:05] <ubotu> fyrmedic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:06] <bonbonthejon> fyrmedic: there is also a bcm43xx or something, I never used it though
[04:06] <fyrmedic> bonbonthejon: Thanks for your help and time.
[04:06] <epimeth> arg
[04:06] <epimeth> that popup isn't appearing anymore
[04:07] <epimeth> is there a manual way to get mp3 support in amarok
[04:07] <epimeth> ?
[04:07] <Hirvinen> !mp3
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:07] <epimeth> Hirvinen... that *really* wasn't the question
[04:08] <Hirvinen> epimeth: Umm, what exactly do you mean by a manual way?
[04:08] <crackhead> hirvinen: what do you recommend for running programs like ms office, quickbooks, etc.?
[04:08] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: what engine are you using
[04:08] <crackhead> (of the various options you outlined)
[04:08] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: use open office instead of ms office, there are other programs for quickbooks
[04:08] <stdin> epimeth: amarok uses the xine engine, and mp3 support is in libxine-extracodecs
[04:08] <crackhead> are they better?
[04:09] <crackhead> i keep opening ms word docs with openoffice, and the formatting is all messed up.. it didnt display the formatting or page setups properly..
[04:09] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: openoffice is great, the options for quickbooks are not as advanced
[04:09] <Hirvinen> crackhead: I recommend OpenOffice.org 2 and GNUCash.
[04:09] <epimeth> amarok-xine is installed
[04:09] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: what about libxine-extracodecs
[04:09] <epimeth> should I nope
[04:09] <epimeth> should I install?
[04:10] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: thats what allows mp3 play back
[04:10] <crackhead> hirvinen: why does openoffice 2 (which im running now) not display the formatting and page setup correctly for ms word-created docs?
[04:10] <epimeth> cool
[04:10] <epimeth> crackhead: wine
[04:10] <Hirvinen> crackhead: But if you *must* use MS Office or other office / utility type programs, then Wine, and failing that, Crossover Office, and failing that, a full virtual machine.
[04:11] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: word does weird formatting, openoffie uses XML which is more flexible and forward-compatible
[04:11] <epimeth> problem is, xover aint free :-)
[04:11] <crackhead> hirvinen: which would you recommend for the few tasks I listed? will wine be sufficient, do you think?
[04:11] <muru>   I need help...   why do grub menu.lst shows 2 kernels - 1 for vmlinuz-2.6.15-28-386  and the other for vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386
[04:11] <crackhead> bonbonthejon: is there any module or program to translate all old .doc programs into the newest xml form?
[04:12] <crackhead> .doc documents i mean
[04:12] <jarn> How do I swap the left and the right stereo channels?
[04:12] <SolidSource> mplayer plugin not working in swiftfox (firefox 32bit) 2.0.2 in AMD64, have reinstalled plugin and even manually installed. about:plugins doesn't show mplayer, yet all files are where they are supposed to be. anyone know?
[04:12] <Hirvinen> crackhead: Because MS Office's formats are proprietary, trying to get full compatibility in OOo or anything else is guesswork, and the compatibility is not perfect(yet.)
[04:12] <epimeth> jarn: you put the left speaker on the right and the right speaker on the left :-)
[04:12] <epimeth> short of that, I don't have a clue
[04:12] <jarn> epimeth: Thanks. :P
[04:13] <stdin> muru: because you have 2 kernels installed
[04:13] <Hirvinen> crackhead: Unless you use some very fancy Excel scripts, you should be able to get them to work with Open Office at least with a bit of work.
[04:13] <muru> ... do i need the old version kernel??.. which is more stable??
[04:13] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, does mplayer sow in FF?
[04:14] <Hirvinen> crackhead: I haven't used GnuCash or Quickbook but I've heard that the former is something of a clone of the latter.
[04:14] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: ...said no
[04:14] <stdin> muru: you don't *need* it, but it won't do any harm having it
[04:14] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: i have kmymoney, its pretty good
[04:15] <epimeth> any quicken clones?
[04:15] <master_> <--- returnes
[04:15] <master_> omg, that was so easy
[04:15] <master_> and it rocks
[04:15] <crackhead> do you guys know that wine will def. support msoffice and quickbooks, for instance, or should i just skip to a full virtual machine?
[04:15] <master_> <-- just installed beryl
[04:15] <muru>  .. can i just comment out those lines in my menu.lst?? or is it better to leave it ..just in case for Plan B booting??
[04:16] <crackhead> master_: how do you like beryl? does it make a big difference? lots of snazzy features?
[04:16] <epimeth> crackhead: try it out.  I haven't used wine in years, but I was able to get office working in the past
[04:16] <stdin> crackhead: depends on the versions, you can ask in #winehq tho
[04:16] <master_> lots of snazzy features
[04:16] <master_> thats for sure
[04:16] <Hirvinen> Sorry, got confused with the names. GnuCash is similar to Quicken, not (necessarily, I don't *know*) to Quickbooks.
[04:16] <apallo> i figured out my sound problem
[04:16] <master_> 3d cube to switch desktops
[04:16] <master_> very impressive
[04:16] <stdin> muru: you can keep it if you want, or remove the package to get rid of it
[04:16] <apallo> aparently the sound on the T60's is run through the modem :|
[04:16] <master_> kicks vista's a$$
[04:17] <epimeth> oohhhhh kmymoney looks pretty
[04:17] <epimeth> gonna go with that
[04:17] <apallo> !beryl
[04:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php
[04:17] <epimeth> I prefer to use nothing starting with "g" :-)
[04:17] <n8k99> epimeth: and it's functional too!
[04:17] <stdin> muru: if you want to get rid of it, just search for "linux-image-2.6.15-26-386" in adept, and uninstall it
[04:17] <epimeth> n8... where the hell did you come from?
[04:17] <master_> where can i get the widgets like yahoo widgets?
[04:18] <bonbonthejon> master_: superkaramba
[04:18] <epimeth> stdin: shouldn't apt-get autoremove delete them as well?
[04:18] <crackhead> question: what are the best latex packages to install for doing documents, presentations, etc.? anyone have recommendations for installing latex?
[04:18] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: so im not the only one who prefers k- to g-
[04:18] <Hirvinen> crackhead: I'd very much recommend moving to OpenOffice and GnuCash formats to avoid vendor dependence.
[04:18] <stdin> epimeth: 2.6.15-26-386 is dapper, and autoremove isn't in dappers apt
[04:18] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: already tried manually doing it
[04:18] <master_> found superkaramba, is it the best one?
[04:18] <epimeth> stdin: right... didn't know that :-)
[04:19] <stdin> epimeth: live and learn :P
[04:19] <crackhead> yeah, i will for newly created documents, but still using older legacy documents, i am already a little vendor dependent until i no longer need those docs..
[04:19] <bonbonthejon> master_: with superkaramba you can install widgets
[04:19] <epimeth> every day, mate... every day :-)
[04:19] <ren_> ih
[04:19] <bonbonthejon> hi ren_
[04:19] <epimeth> crackhead: openoffice should read the old docs as well... maybe a bit of formatting will be off, but nothing that will really bother you
[04:19] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, but it doesn't show up in about:plugins, right ?
[04:20] <crackhead> epimeth: right, the formatting is off. it's not exact. there are a lot of formatting issues which are troublesome for right now, just using oo all the time.. that's why i was asking, really. :)
[04:21] <crackhead> what about latex? anyone have recommendations?
[04:21] <epimeth> amarok working!
[04:21] <epimeth> buut
[04:21] <epimeth> weird static sound
[04:21] <Hoondie> Hey people.. How can I stop ubuntu from looking for a lease on my wireless (eth1) interface at bootup? It's slowing things down a bit
[04:22] <epimeth> hmmm... static stopped
[04:22] <epimeth> sweet
[04:22] <epimeth> amarok works!
[04:22] <epimeth> cheers guys
[04:23] <epimeth> I thought feisty was supposed to have something that automatically downloads codecs for you?
[04:23] <epimeth> maybe the package isn't installed.... anyone know what it is?
[04:25] <infocrash> dont know, i use automatix2 for edgy
[04:25] <SolidSource> epimeth: it doesn't automatically install the codecs, you still have to basically click "yes" to install them
[04:25] <epimeth> right... but what is the package?
[04:26] <SolidSource> epimeth: also ubuntu-resticted package will take care of most
[04:26] <bonbonthejon> automatix isnt suggested, it caused problems in the past with people going dapper-->eddgy
[04:26] <master_> so... found superkaramba
[04:27] <master_> looks like there's no installer
[04:27] <master_> i'm new to the linus thing
[04:27] <master_> looks like i have to make the installer, huh
[04:27] <master_> compile and all that
[04:27] <magez> kubuntu rocks \,,/
[04:27] <bonbonthejon> !superkaramba
[04:27] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:27] <master_> yah but to actualy install V
[04:27] <master_> superkaramba
[04:28] <bonbonthejon> master_: no, there should be a package in adept, then you have a way to get themes or widgets
[04:28] <master_> ahh- i'll look in adept, didnt try there
[04:28] <master_> doh
[04:28] <bonbonthejon> master_: look in adept first for packages
[04:31] <master_> adept keeps quitting on me
[04:31] <master_> thats the second time!
[04:31] <master_> and if I search for superkaramba nothing comes up
[04:32] <vontux> is anyone in here having trouble with their "gnomebaker" for burning dvds?
[04:32] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, kdesu konqueror /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ...check if the mplayer plugin*.so files are there
[04:32] <SolidSource> they are there
[04:32] <bonbonthejon> master_: ok, thats weird, try running "sudo apt-get install superkaramba" in konsole
[04:32] <stdin> master_: it's in the Universe repo
[04:32] <epimeth> !dhclient
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <SolidSource> master_: have you uncommented the universe and multiverse backport repos?
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: what are you trying to do
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic | master_
[04:33] <ubotu> master_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:34] <epimeth> bonbonthejon: just wondering if kubuntu has a howto for the dhcp client
[04:34] <epimeth> Hoondie was asking
[04:34] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: not that i know of
[04:34] <epimeth> but he's gone now
[04:34] <epimeth> so I'll open the man page instead
[04:34] <epimeth> :-)
[04:35] <vontux> so, does anyone know how to get "gnomebaker" to burn dvds?
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> vontux: try k3b instrad of gnomebaker
[04:35] <stdin> vontux: why not use k3b ?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, well that's as much help as I know how to give ...  :(
[04:35] <lorderunion> Hi. I've got a weird problem where at random times in the day my Kubuntu installation kicks me out of my session and sends me back to login.
[04:36] <epimeth> actually.. now that I think of it... KNetMan isn't connecting automatically... maybe I have to change my dhclinet.conf?
[04:36] <vontux> bonbthejon, stdin: I may end up doing so ;however, the help is for a non-internet connected machine of ubuntu w/ gnome on it that I wish to use occassionally to make dvd backups so I don't care if it doesn't have kde and I figured gnome baker is a quicker install
[04:37] <stdin> vontux: better to ask in #ubuntu then
[04:37] <vontux> stdin: ok, thx
[04:37] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: I think you need to take out most of the stuff in dhclient
[04:37] <master_> okay, figured out how to add the Universe to Adept...pretty cool
[04:37] <master_> this is NOTHING like Windows.... ;)
[04:37] <stdin> thank got it's not
[04:37] <master_> :D
[04:37] <master_> okay, now where to get the widgets again?
[04:38] <stdin> http://kde-look.org/
[04:38] <bonbonthejon> master_: did you install superkaramba, open it, right click on its icon, there should be an option
[04:38] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: fixed
[04:39] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: for the most part
[04:39] <BluesKaj> geezuz ..it takes windows ppl a while to ease themselves off the eyecandy ...
[04:39] <epimeth> anybody know anything about hebrew font support in the filesystem?
[04:39] <epimeth> both console and xorg?
[04:40] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, glad to hear it ...not all sites work with FF in my experience either , but usually konq will if i really need to see it .
[04:40] <master_> uhhh- yeah, i think it just froze on me
[04:40] <bonbonthejon> master_: what froze
[04:41] <razor__> i have a few questions about getting my olympus d-395 camera to work
[04:41] <master_> i dloaded the glassmonitor
[04:41] <master_> and when i clicked add to desktop nothing happened
[04:42] <master_> but the superkaramba themes winodw is unresponsive
[04:42] <apallo> what was the beryl repo again?
[04:42] <crackhead> question: what are the best pacakges/apps to use with latex to make creating/editing/compiling files/docs made with it easier?
[04:42] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: the for most part only meant that its showing in about:plugins ...still isn't playing
[04:43] <master_> never mind, it's working now
[04:43] <master_> i had to close the themes window first....
[04:43] <epimeth> how do I install / change my kde theme?
[04:44] <razor__> i am currently running Kde 3.5.5
[04:44] <ants> I was porting an encrypted root initscript from edgy to feisty (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem), I tripped up on /dev/sda not being available when the script was run
[04:44] <BluesKaj> SolidSource, could you copy and paste the about:plugins page to : www.pastebin.ca
[04:44] <inept> this is fskng pitiful. at least it should come with java runtimes available
[04:45] <ants> I modified it by adding while ! [[ -e /dev/sda ] ] ; do sleep 1; done, which did the trick
[04:45] <ants> but it seems somehow wrong
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: kde-look.org has stuff
[04:45] <epimeth> how do I install, not where do I find.. I'm *at* kde-look :-)
[04:46] <besid> hi
[04:46] <inept> first time kubuntu user
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: there should be a page of how to
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> hi besid
[04:47] <ants> any way, my questions are that is there a better way to wait for the hdd to become available?
[04:47] <epimeth> nvm.. found it
[04:47] <ants> and is there a way to prompt for a passphrase from the bootsplash?
[04:47] <master_> damn, did I mention THIS ROCKS!!?
[04:48] <master_> goodbye Microsoft
[04:48] <epimeth> master_ welcome to the wonderful world of GPL
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> master_: i hope you are not a gamer
[04:48] <master_> nice to be here
[04:48] <master_> <-- not a gamer
[04:48] <epimeth> bonbonthejon: don't disilusion the newbie!
[04:48] <epimeth> shame on you
[04:48] <master_> why, no games?
[04:48] <epimeth> s/corneer/corner
[04:48] <razor__> inept: same here first time user
[04:48] <master_> what about WINE?
[04:48] <inept> a whole bunch of better ways if you expext to have linux work out of the box bon
[04:49] <BluesKaj> another canuck joins the Linux community...welcome master :0
[04:49] <JeremiahGriffin> I've got a Kubuntu problem. I'm not sure what topic it would be, but here's the problem: the Gnome theme feature isn't working. Is this KDE-specific or does it has something to do with Kubuntu?
[04:49] <epimeth> master_: wine allows using windows dlls on a linux system.  unfortunatelly that isn't enough to run directx dlls
[04:49] <razor__> windows finally pissed me off enough i wanted to get away from being a gateswhore
[04:49] <master_> i c
[04:49] <master_> what about VM?
[04:49] <Jucato> JeremiahGriffin: Kubuntu uses KDE, not GNOME.
[04:49] <epimeth> so a few years ago someone developed winex, which was a direct-x layer for wine
[04:49] <JeremiahGriffin> Yes, I know.
[04:50] <ants> well, some games somewhat work under Wine
[04:50] <epimeth> its called something else now, I don't remember
[04:50] <teacher> do you know game irc server
[04:50] <epimeth> ants: yea... solitaire :-)
[04:50] <inept> me to razor but this sucks
[04:50] <Jucato> JeremiahGriffin: so that "GNOME feature thingy" will probably not work. unless you specify what that is exactly
[04:50] <razor__> heh
[04:50] <ants> DirectX games
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> master_: if you want you could run a vm, but it better be a fast computer
[04:50] <razor__> inept: so far i have help from a friend. making it much easier to convert
[04:50] <epimeth> winex is named something else now... don't remember what.  but it allows you to play most of the popular games available on the market these days
[04:50] <JeremiahGriffin> K Menu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Styles and Fonts -> GTK Styles
[04:50] <epimeth> unfortunatelly it costs a bit of $
[04:50] <stdin> Frozen Bubble is the BEST game ever
[04:51] <epimeth> I think its, what guys? 5 bucks a month?
[04:51] <master_> AMD 5200+ 64x2, thats about as fast as it gets these days
[04:51] <epimeth> something like that...
[04:51] <bonbonthejon> stdin: here, here
[04:51] <epimeth> master_: so you must be positively flying
[04:51] <SolidSource> BluesKaj: alright....got it to, just had to create the /usr/bin mplayer link
[04:52] <stdin> bonbonthejon: you have version 2 yet?
[04:52] <ants> Wine has seen lots of Direct3D development lately
[04:52] <inept> bought this CD and had to figure out how to install firefox and java dont even work
[04:52] <master_> Nvidia x7000 also
[04:52] <BluesKaj> righton SolidSource :)
[04:52] <master_> yes, flying along....
[04:52] <crackhead> question: is there any installed kde theme package with kubuntu, or is that something to dl/install additionally?
[04:52] <JeremiahGriffin> Btw...I'm using the kubuntu-desktop package with Ubuntu/Gnome. In case that has anything to do with it.
[04:52] <master_> 2GB Ram, OCZ
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> stdin: i dont have it installed on the laptop yet, shocking
[04:52] <stdin> crackhead: themes are east to install, and there is a guide
[04:53] <razor__> inept: you have to download the java file then work it from there.. apt-get doesn't work for it.
[04:53] <stdin> bonbonthejon: it's in feisty, but there is a dapper and edgy repo too
[04:53] <inept> i have sen KDE before but this isant even close
[04:53] <epimeth> jeremiahGriffin: you are using KDE, not Gnome.
[04:53] <JeremiahGriffin> Yes, I know.
[04:53] <stdin> !changethemes | crackhead
[04:53] <ubotu> crackhead: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:53] <epimeth> thats why gnome themes aren't working
[04:53] <teacher> stdin: what is difference between KDE and GNOME
[04:53] <JeremiahGriffin> System Settings has an option for them :-\
[04:54] <stdin> bonbonthejon: "deb http://mirror.randumb.org/darkmagez/repo edgy-darkmagez games " (replace edgy with dapper for dapper)
[04:54] <epimeth> teacher: they are two different fronts for x-org.  x-org is responsible for showing you the graphical interface you are using right now
[04:54] <bonbonthejon> stdin: im in feisty
[04:54] <stdin> teacher: Gnome is for dumb people :P
[04:54] <inept> you mean this CD i bought does not even have the JAVA runtimes on it??
[04:54] <epimeth> KDE and Gnome are two different systems for showing the taskbar, system tray, icons, etc
[04:54] <stdin> bonbonthejon: ah, then it's just an apt-get away :P
[04:55] <bonbonthejon> stdin: downloading right now
[04:55] <razor__> inept: you BOUGHT this??  ubuntu sent me a free copy
[04:55] <BluesKaj> gnome is preferred by longtime linux users as opposed to KDE which appeals more to former windoze ppl due it's more gatesian appearance :)
[04:55] <epimeth> frozen bubble?  what's that?
[04:55] <BluesKaj> but I prefer KDE
[04:55] <stdin> bonbonthejon: new network support, lan and internet :)
[04:55] <inept> isant the world od 56k dialup wonderfull!
[04:55] <teacher> is there only graphic difference?
[04:56] <n8k99> people prefer what they want/like
[04:56] <bonbonthejon> teacher: no, there are structural differences
[04:56] <razor__> inept: ouch i actually downloaded the updated version of Kubuntu.. about 20 minutes
[04:56] <BluesKaj> mostly, teacher
[04:56] <teacher> epimeth : is there only graphic difference?
[04:56] <razor__> dial up is insane
[04:56] <master_> I'm gonna try www.virtualbox.org
[04:56] <stdin> epimeth: it a game, this is the website http://www.frozen-bubble.org/ but it's in the repos
[04:56] <inept> why the hell should i buy a CD if i have to DL stuff
[04:56] <razor__> inept: why 'buy' ... this is FREE
[04:56] <bonbonthejon> stdin: awesome, i made an arcade machine, i have FB on it, i should upgrade so i can play against the laptop
[04:56] <nonuda_> i see one error while trying to install an app using adept manager, how to reinstall it again?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> graphical/structural , who cares KDE is easier to use
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> nonuda_: adept has an option to reinstall
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: here here
[04:57] <SolidSource> inept: just download the install disc, thats all you need really
[04:57] <inept> well my CD wasent free razor
[04:57] <epimeth> teacher: pretty much.  some of the libraries for displaying the windows are different, but I don't think there remain any big difference between them.  a few years ago you would probably have had problems running gnome apps in kde and vice versa, but lately I haven't had any problems
[04:57] <stdin> inept: you didn't go to http://shipit.kubuntu.org/ ?
[04:57] <razor__> inept: that is crazy.. i have 3 cd's ubuntu sent to me FREE.. sorry to hear you got ripped
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> epimeth: there are differences, but now its possible to have both qt and gtk+ installed
[04:58] <epimeth> BluesKaj: I disagree, btw... I find that most programmers I know prefer KDE while most designers I know prefer gnome.  nothing to do with the windows lnf
[04:59] <LL_Hakaisou> !ati
[04:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <epimeth> bonbonthejon: of course... I was just giving teacher a very basic explanation
[04:59] <teacher> i have downloaded firefox, how can I set default web browser
[04:59] <epimeth> and now you are confusing him with qt and gtk :-)
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> teacher: so you can run kde and run gnome applications
[04:59] <BluesKaj> weel epimeth, that what I was told a few yrs back when i started trying linux distros
[04:59] <stdin> argument ends: KDE rules, Gnome duels
[05:00] <epimeth> teacher: system settings -> default applications
[05:00] <stdin> *drules
[05:00] <BluesKaj> stdin, drools ... :)  ?
[05:00] <epimeth> BluesKaj:  its really just a matter of taste... we can argue all night and not get any where :-)
[05:01] <stdin> BluesKaj: it's 4am, give a guy a break :P
[05:01] <epimeth> stdin: did you hear about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
[05:01] <infocrash> to be fair gnome does run faster than kde
[05:01] <stdin> infocrash: not true
[05:01] <infocrash> but that will change after kde version 4.0
[05:01] <BluesKaj> yup, epimeth ...agreed , if ya like gnome ...well use it
[05:01] <stdin> epimeth: pore guy :P
[05:01] <razor__> be careful with nvidia drivers.. my nvidia doesn't mix well with the drivers for Kubuntu
[05:02] <epimeth> BluesKaj: gnome? ew... I don't even install any gtk apps unless I absolutely have to
[05:02] <razor__> lots of crashes and hangs.. i'm using the default driver now.. no issues
[05:02] <inept> got it from !cant tell you. it was on distrowatch.com
[05:02] <razor__> but i am not able to use dual monitors :( which is very disappointing
[05:02] <master_> ok, need some help with virtual box
[05:02] <epimeth> stdin: he stayed up all night
[05:02] <epimeth> stdin: wondering if there really was a dog
[05:02] <BluesKaj> razor__, buy an Xbox or PS :)
[05:02] <master_> it tells me i need libxalan-c, libxerces-c and version 5 of libstdc++
[05:03] <master_> what are those?
[05:03] <razor__> i have a PS2.. if that is what you mean
[05:03] <inept> well so much for wireless unless i am on my laptop
[05:03] <epimeth> inept: whats the problem?
[05:03] <caleb> epimeth: I just use what works. Personally, I prefer KDE, and I've been using it since I ran SuSE 9.1, way back then. However, I've also got an old machine that is an absolute dog under Kubuntu, yet runs XFCE great.
[05:03] <infocrash> i was there when kde and gnome started, i liked gnome better cause the were all up for options and kde was for the new user, some time after version 1.4 gnome thy started restricting people on what features to configure
[05:04] <aric> what is a good firewall I can use ?
[05:04] <BluesKaj> geezers like like me begin to drool at this hr .... sacktime for me ...nite all , take care
[05:04] <stdin> !firewall | aric
[05:04] <ubotu> aric: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:04] <inept> ubuntu or kubuntu has a long ways to go befor its rady
[05:04] <nonuda_> !apt
[05:04] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:05] <epimeth> caleb: makes sence... xfce is much much sleeker than kde
[05:05] <epimeth> inept: ready for what?
[05:06] <razor__> now that i have my LCD working fine with Kubuntu i'm more than happy.. and i thought itis past the ready stage?
[05:06] <caleb> inept: I've been running Kubuntu/Ubuntu since I switched my PowerBook G3 from OS X to Kubuntu Breezy, and I think it's pretty ready for the desktop.
[05:07] <razor__> person learning to use it has to be ready ;)
[05:07] <epimeth> !ndiswrapper > inept
[05:07] <epimeth> !ndiswrapper
[05:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <razor__> i'm in KDE 3.5.5 is there a much needed reason to update to 3.5.6?
[05:07] <coreymon77> inept: do not use ndiswrapper unless you absolutely have to though
[05:08] <stdin> razor__: you don't "need" to, just depends if you *want* to
[05:08] <epimeth> coreymon77: seems to me like he does :-)
[05:08] <razor__> any new features?
[05:08] <coreymon77> epimeth: are you sure about that?
[05:08] <razor__> i'm a extreme n00b with Kubuntu..
[05:09] <razor__> but i'm learning fast..
[05:09] <coreymon77> epimeth: because ndiswrapper is not recomended unless absolutely 100% necessary
[05:09] <stdin> razor__: look at the changelog http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php
[05:09] <caleb> razor__: 3.5.6 is a little faster, in my experience, under Edgy. There really aren't any new features. However, I'm running Feisty on my primary machine, so I really can't speak from experience, since I'm comparing my Core Duo notebook to my aging Duron-based desktop.
[05:09] <epimeth> coreymon77: no... but it certainly saved my ass...
[05:10] <razor__> life calls.. don't go anywhere people.. i have questions about getting my camera to work with  digiKam
[05:10] <coreymon77> epimeth: same with me, there was a time when i had to use it myself
[05:10] <caleb> epimeth: What chipset?
[05:10] <razor__> caleb: thanks stdin: thanks
[05:10] <coreymon77> epimeth: but gorammit am i happy that i dont have to anymore
[05:10] <inept> 1. cant su to root. 2 no java runtime from purchased CD. 3 sucks for wireless and Kububtu doesent even have basic wireless support
[05:10] <epimeth> ummm... shit... don't remember.  its a linksys wpm54g
[05:10] <KaoticEvil> anyone have a minute to help me out?
[05:10] <coreymon77> epimethmy wireless card cucked on me
[05:10] <calcmandan> Can anyone recommend a good package that will create iso's from music cd's? I'm looking to back up my current collection.
[05:11] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: why not convert them to OGG or MP3?
[05:11] <epimeth> coreymon77: I needed ndis for dapper... edgy and feisty worked out of box
[05:11] <coreymon77> epimeth: so when i got a new one, i purposfuly searched for one with an atheros chipset
[05:11] <razor__> inept: sudo bash
[05:11] <KaoticEvil> would be a lot smaller to store
[05:11] <calcmandan> i already do have them all in ogg.
[05:11] <calcmandan> but would like to have an image backed up.
[05:11] <Kaajavi> hi
[05:11] <KaoticEvil> ah... k3b should be able to do that
[05:11] <LL_Hakaisou> wow
[05:11] <coreymon77> epimeth: i dont know about yours though, i thought  linksys wireless cards used ralink chipsets
[05:11] <calcmandan> ikaoticevil: i already tried that
[05:11] <coreymon77> and those dont need ndis
[05:11] <LL_Hakaisou> what took me several hours yesterday just took me ten minutes
[05:11] <bonbonthejon> inept: you have to set a root password to su
[05:11] <stdin> calcmandan: K3B should to it, or dd
[05:12] <caleb> inept: My brand-new Toshiba Satellite A105-S4002 has perfect wireless support under Dapper, Edgy and Feisty. And so does my stepdad's Thinkpad and my grandpa's Satellite, as well.
[05:12] <LL_Hakaisou> !flash64
[05:12] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:12] <caleb> Intel ipw3945 chipset on mine, though.
[05:12] <epimeth> coreymon: I ended up downloading the windows drivers and loading them through ndis... worked immediately
[05:12] <calcmandan> stdin: i usually use k3b to rip. but it only gives encoder types to choose from, but no image. i tried to do an image and it produced a load of wav files.
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> calcmandan: there is a package called mkiso or something
[05:13] <stdin> calcmandan: use the Copy CD feature, then choose to only make a image
[05:13] <caleb> inept: su is, to me, insecure compared to sudo, but that is just my paranoia speaking. Do as little as root as possible...
[05:13] <teacher__> stdin: i want to install firefox
[05:13] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: did you try a clone copy with only Create Image selected?
[05:13] <orient2000> k9copy for iso
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> caleb: i agree
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> !root
[05:13] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> !su
[05:13] <caleb> teacher__: sudo aptitude install firefox, or open Adept and install the firefox package from there.
[05:13] <Kaajavi> Aid with Ismod. I do not speak English
[05:13] <crackhead> anyone know why, in the kde menu editor, i see a submenu topic, such as "games", and then when i click the k-menu on the panel, and i see all the other submenus, i dont see the games submenu displayed?
[05:13] <epimeth> ummm... remind me how to install themes again?
[05:13] <stdin> teacher__: install it with Adept, or Add/Remove Programs
[05:13] <inept> geeeeeee razor i hae done set the name in konsole for the unix name change so i can login as root finaly. ubuntu doesent want you to even let you su
[05:13] <calcmandan> orient2000: i thought k9copy was a dvd ripper.
[05:13] <coreymon77> Kaajavi: what language do you speak
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: you must not have any games installed
[05:14] <Kaajavi> espaol
[05:14] <coreymon77> !es
[05:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:14] <crackhead> bonbonthejon: good call ha :)
[05:14] <epimeth> crackhead: cuz you don't have any games installed
[05:14] <coreymon77> Kaajavi: go there
[05:14] <razor__> inept: man you are crazy for paying for it.. no wonder you're having a bad experience
[05:14] <KaoticEvil> anyone know how i can get KDM to start on boot?
[05:14] <SolidSource> crackhead: menu editor will show all the base menus, you have to have something in that submenu for it to actually show
[05:15] <KaoticEvil> after i installed the binary nvidia drivers, it no longer starts. i have to login at a TTY and startx manually
[05:15] <Kaajavi> I did not find answer
[05:15] <orient2000> k9copy is for backup
[05:15] <epimeth> Kaajavi: me hablo un poco
[05:15] <bonbonthejon> KaoticEvil: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[05:15] <Kaajavi> podes ir a privado?
[05:15] <epimeth> *yo hablo un poco :-)
[05:15] <Kaajavi> :d
[05:15] <calcmandan> orient2000: i just tried k9copy and it won't read my music cd.
[05:16] <caleb> KaoticEvil: I had this issue with the NVidia binaries on my desktop machine. It's something to do with the xorg.conf.md5sum being missing when the NVidia drivers are installed.
[05:16] <inept> lets se1 KUBUNTU NEEDS TO LET YOU LOGIN WITH YOUR ROOT PASSWORD AS ROOT AND IT NEEDS A SU FILE BROWSER
[05:16] <calcmandan> orient2000: i use that software all the time to rip my dvd's.
[05:16] <inept> dam caps lock is in the wrong plse
[05:16] <crackhead> solidsource: yeah, so i discovered. the submenus looked as if they were themselves games.. ha. i didnt realize.
[05:16] <razor__> i use k3b for dvd copies and such
[05:16] <inept> place
[05:16] <coreymon77> Kaajavi: if you are in this channel, please speak english
[05:16] <caleb> inept: Which is a security hole. However, if one really wants to do so, you can set a root password if you wish.
[05:16] <Kaajavi> ok
[05:17] <bonbonthejon> inept: to set root password "sudo passwd root", but its not advised
[05:17] <crackhead> bonbonthejon: why is setting a root password not advised?
[05:17] <KaoticEvil> bonbonthejon: all that does is drop me to a blank screen...
[05:18] <Kaajavi> excuses, I am going to speak slowly
[05:18] <orient2000> I do not see any rip option in k9copy. It is starange. You mean you use it to rip DVD into avi or something?
[05:18] <bonbonthejon> crackhead: usually root is not enabled, you have to use your user password
[05:18] <KaoticEvil> bonbonthejon: is that because im already in K?
[05:18] <stdin> inept: what's wrong with "sudo -i" for logging in as root, and "kdesu konqueror" for a file manager ?
[05:18] <crackhead> why have root if it's not enabled?
[05:18] <bonbonthejon> KaoticEvil: it should ask you if you want to use kdm or, if installed, gdm
[05:18] <coreymon77> crackhead: because you can always get to it in an instant
[05:18] <KaoticEvil> it didnt
[05:18] <crackhead> i enabled mine and set the pwd. i thought it was necessary for the superuser use, but then i found out about sudo
[05:18] <inept> aleb! YOU ALLW ME PHYSICAL ACCESS TO YOUR PUTER AND I WILL CRACK IT! FORGET THE SO CALLED SECURITY bs AND TELL ME WHY I  CANT LOGIN TO kONSOLE AS ROOT :)
[05:19] <SolidSource> orient2000: it doesn't actually say "rip", what k9copy does is allow you to rip it into an ISO and I think its divX
[05:19] <coreymon77> crackhead: and whats the point of remembering 2 pwrods
[05:19] <KaoticEvil> it just said "Reloading K Display Manager configuration"
[05:19] <stdin> inept: told ya how to login as root
[05:19] <LL_Hakaisou> there is way too much yelling in this thread
[05:19] <crackhead> yeah, so i figured.. i dont really know.. haha.. just thought it was a necessary *nix thing
[05:19] <coreymon77> inept: NEVER LOG IN AS ROOT
[05:19] <coreymon77> inept: USE SUDO
[05:19] <orient2000> Divx in not an iso
[05:19] <teacher__> http://www.oops.mn/
[05:19] <coreymon77> crackhead: it is
[05:20] <coreymon77> crackhead: *buntu users are just lazy
[05:20] <epimeth> CAN WE PLEASE STOP SHOUTING
[05:20] <coreymon77> :P
[05:20] <SolidSource> orient2000: ok, no DivX option, but allows to rip to ISO which you can extract the movie from, or play directly from the ISO
[05:20] <teacher__> turk insan var mi?
[05:20] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: have you tried using K3b with the options Clone Copy and Only Create Image selected?
[05:20] <inept> i know how to lpgin as root! i allso know how to that at boot
[05:20] <coreymon77> !tu
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <razor__> k3b is my choice
[05:20] <epimeth> inept: root login is sudo -i, or you can sudo passwd and then su - with the new password
[05:20] <calcmandan> KaoticEvil: yes, it creates two files: .img and .toc
[05:20] <inept> so forget the scurity BS
[05:20] <crackhead> coremon77: so, should i enable or disable the root? is there really a difference except for remembering two pwords, if im using sudo?
[05:20] <KaoticEvil> thats your ISO file
[05:21] <orient2000> Rip means compression I thought.
[05:21] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: k3b can burn those back to a CD-R
[05:21] <coreymon77> crackhead: use sudo
[05:21] <SolidSource> orient2000: but to get it to rip just click either click "copy"
[05:21] <epimeth> crackhead: there is never a reason to log in as root
[05:21] <KaoticEvil> orient2000: no, to rip something means to copy it
[05:21] <coreymon77> crackhead: enabling root is jsut asking for trouble
[05:21] <KaoticEvil> compressing is just that...
[05:21] <calcmandan> KaoticEvil: yeah, i was hoping to make iso files though.
[05:21] <coreymon77> crackhead: sudo can do anything you would need
[05:21] <inept> i knew that a long time ago eph
[05:21] <calcmandan> with k3b
[05:21] <calcmandan> k3b is my choice.
[05:21] <epimeth> crackhead: i use it only because typing sudo a million times annoys me
[05:22] <coreymon77> epimeth: sudo -s
[05:22] <inept> i want a linux distro for the new user
[05:22] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: whats the difference between an ISO and an IMG/TOC?
[05:22] <Morbo> sudo has become second nature to me
[05:22] <stdin> epimeth: and sudo -i or sudo -s is too hard ? :P
[05:22] <epimeth> stdin: you misunderstood
[05:22] <calcmandan> KaoticEvil: iso's stand alone, img files go along with .toc files.
[05:22] <epimeth> stdin: i su - from a konsole
[05:22] <epimeth> :-)
[05:22] <coreymon77> epimeth: wow, talk about lazy
[05:22] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: i know that.. but they serve the same purpose
[05:22] <Morbo> to the point where if I'm fixing somebody's Windows box, I type sudo
[05:22] <inept> sudo psswd id so hard??
[05:23] <stdin> epimeth: I sudo -i from a konsole, but hay, whatever :-)
[05:23] <calcmandan> it is my preference.
[05:23] <KaoticEvil> lol Morbo
[05:23] <bonbonthejon> Morbo: do you do ls also in dos
[05:23] <Kaajavi> My kubuntu does not recognize the commando ismod, why?
[05:23] <coreymon77> epimeth: sudo -s is too hard?
[05:23] <stdin> Kaajavi: use modprobe
[05:23] <coreymon77> yay!
[05:23] <SolidSource> orient2000: if you click "create MPEG4" you can rip DVD to AVI
[05:23] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: i would recommend searching the packages available to you in adept then
[05:24] <epimeth> so what was that package for installing kde skins?
[05:24] <calcmandan> KaoticEvil: yeah, i came for a good recommendation on preferred software to do the trick.
[05:24] <inept> eepim mine does to sometimes. try debian
[05:24] <calcmandan> KaoticEvil: and i got some so i'll try them out.
[05:24] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: have you tried makeisofs ?
[05:24] <coreymon77> epimeth: www.kdelook.org
[05:24] <Kaajavi> thank
[05:24] <caleb> epimeth: I think it's enabled by default, in the old Control Center... do an Alt-F2 and type kcontrol
[05:24] <stdin> epimeth: www.kde-look.org
[05:24] <KaoticEvil> "mkisofs - Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images"
[05:25] <coreymon77> stdin: w/e, wouldnt it jsut autoforward?
[05:25] <Morbo> bonbonthejon- yeah
[05:25] <inept> kde rocks
[05:25] <coreymon77> inept: i agree
[05:25] <stdin> coreymon77: yeah, but I'm being pedantic today :)
[05:25] <coreymon77> stdin: no s**t
[05:25] <KaoticEvil> calcmandan: its a command line tool, but you should be able to write a bash script, if you have a large collection...
[05:25] <stdin> :P
[05:26] <epimeth> caleb: any reason its not in the new cpanel?
[05:26] <inept> kubuntu has a long ways to go to be a KDE desktop
[05:26] <coreymon77> epimeth: because they wanted to be annoying
[05:27] <coreymon77> inept: its getting there though
[05:27] <razor__> is there an apt-get for KDE 3.5.6?
[05:27] <coreymon77> inept: defenitely getting there
[05:27] <SolidSource> epimeth: don't think the kubuntu team thinks kdm/splash changing is a good idea
[05:27] <coreymon77> razor__: yes
[05:27] <razor__> thanks
[05:27] <coreymon77> razor__: go look on the kubuntu website
[05:27] <inept> they dont even enable kmenu  in the distro
[05:27] <coreymon77> razor__: you will find out all about it
[05:27] <razor__> ok.. i'm looking now: thanks
[05:28] <stdin> razor__: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[05:28] <Kaajavi> jjaja
[05:28] <stdin> razor__: save you some time there :P
[05:28] <caleb> inept: Then what is that square button in the bottom left corner of my screen when I boot from the LiveCD and do a clean install?
[05:28] <Kaajavi> it was Lsmod nonIsmod!!!!!
[05:28] <epimeth> SolidSource: is that really all it is? damn
[05:28] <coreymon77> stdin: yeesh, he could just fin it him/her self you know
[05:28] <Kaajavi> thank you
[05:28] <coreymon77> stdin: you are really being anal today arent you
[05:29] <stdin> coreymon77: I already had the page open
[05:29] <SolidSource> epimeth: well it can cause problems...though rare
[05:29] <coreymon77> stdin: sure...
[05:29] <Kaajavi> 
[05:29] <Kaajavi> I am a ignorante
[05:29] <epimeth> I was hoping for cool icons and stuff... oh well
[05:29] <coreymon77> Kaajavi: not really, its either you are ignorant or you are an ignoramus
[05:29] <epimeth> hay... anyone know how to get hebrew fonts working for the filesystem?
[05:29] <SolidSource> epimeth: you can, just use kcontrol instead
[05:30] <epimeth> console and gui
[05:31] <orient2000> SolidSource: I do not see "create MPEG4" in k9copy
[05:32] <SolidSource> orient2000: its up top, just run your mouse over the icons up there
[05:35] <orient2000> Are you talking about K3b?
[05:35] <razor__> it states i need some library requirements.. how am i sure if i have them?
[05:35] <bonbonthejon> razor__: are you using adept to install?
[05:35] <razor__> i started with kde 3.5.5 on kubuntu 6.11? is that a given
[05:35] <razor__> yes
[05:36] <razor__> wait.. i was going to use apt-get
[05:36] <SolidSource> orient2000: no k9copy, just used it a little bit ago, the icon says "mpeg4" on it
[05:36] <SolidSource> orient2000: its right next to the "dvd" (copy) button
[05:37] <razor__> apt-get will get more libraries if needed or just pick from the source.list i have now?
[05:38] <SolidSource> razor__: apt-get/adept/aptitude will only get things from the repos in the sources.list
[05:38] <sparr> i want to 'render' a pdf to an image at a certain DPI...  how?
[05:39] <razor__> but if i don't have one of the repos it needs? am i just out of luck or i need to make sure i have them?
[05:39] <bonbonthejon> razor__: try to install, if you dont have something apt will complain
[05:39] <SolidSource> razor__: you update your repo list, or obtain the dependencies manually
[05:40] <LL_Hakaisou> quick
[05:40] <razor__> ok.
[05:40] <razor__> thanks.
[05:40] <LL_Hakaisou> what is the shell command to run as root?
[05:40] <LL_Hakaisou> if there is one
[05:40] <stdin> !sudo
[05:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:40] <razor__> sudo bash
[05:40] <stdin> sudo -i for root shell
[05:40] <secretary> hi
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> hi secretary
[05:41] <Jucato> !kde | stdin
[05:41] <ubotu> stdin: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:41] <SolidSource> razor__: but if you use the sources-o-matic, you will have most of all the repos you need !source-o-matic
[05:41] <LL_Hakaisou> crud...
[05:41] <stdin> Jucato: fine :P
[05:41] <suarka> helo
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> hi suarka
[05:41] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > razor_
[05:42] <Jucato> stdin: I didn't want to include a direct link to the announcement because it should also cater to Dapper :)
[05:42] <LL_Hakaisou> how would i give myself permission to access a folder that is root only?
[05:42] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, I see what you mean
[05:42] <stdin> LL_Hakaisou: "sudo -i" will give you a root shell, then you can access anything
[05:43] <LL_Hakaisou> inside the GUI?
[05:43] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: kdesu konqueror
[05:43] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: in the gui you alt+f2 then "kdesu *appname*"
[05:43] <stdin> LL_Hakaisou: ahh, no, you have to start the app as root, with kdesu
[05:43] <LL_Hakaisou> ooooh
[05:43] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then, i completely forgot about that
[05:43] <epimeth> kdesu = sudo for the gui
[05:44] <SolidSource> Jucato: that would be too simple
[05:44] <stdin> well, you know who to ask
[05:44] <Jucato> er... that's the point...
[05:45] <SolidSource> I know thats the point...but they want to have some fun
[05:45] <Jucato> :P
[05:45] <razor__> i am SO lucky to have a friend who is a linux nerd
[05:45] <crackhead> question: how does one know which and where are the proper nvidia drivers to get for his videocard/mobo?
[05:46] <epimeth> if the ntfs configuration tool doesn't work, how do I install write support for ntfs drives manually?
[05:46] <razor__> be careful with the nVidia drivers.. i had bad issues with it
[05:46] <epimeth> crackhead: nvidia.com
[05:46] <razor__> constant lcok ups
[05:46] <epimeth> Jucato: cuz kdesu sounds better
[05:46] <crackhead> razor_ which driver did you use, and what turned out to be the fix?
[05:46] <razor__> s/oc/co
[05:46] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | epimeth
[05:46] <ubotu> epimeth: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:46] <Jucato> :P
[05:46] <SolidSource> crackhead: well nvidia is nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy....you just need to know what video card you have
[05:47] <epimeth> stdin: and feisty?
[05:47] <crackhead> i think it's geforce 6150.. pretty new..
[05:47] <stdin> epimeth: should be no different
[05:47] <razor__> the glx but i didn't get a fix i had to reinstall
[05:47] <SolidSource> !nvidia > crackhead
[05:47] <SolidSource> crackhead: then the nvidia-glx package
[05:47] <razor__> i'm now NOT using an nVidia driver.. the generic
[05:47] <razor__> and works fine
[05:48] <razor__> my card is a geforce 5200 FX
[05:48] <razor__> i was trying to get dual monitor support to work
[05:48] <crackhead> did it work with the generic?
[05:48] <crackhead> does it work now? did you just give up?
[05:48] <razor__> dual , negative only on one monitor as of now
[05:48] <SolidSource> razor__: dual monitor support is tricky and not fully supported
[05:48] <razor__> i'm almost afraid to plug the 2nd monitor in
[05:49] <razor__> i so agree
[05:49] <crackhead> has nayone gotten dual monitor to work with kubuntu??
[05:49] <razor__> i had both monitors working but the system would hang up after a few minutes
[05:50] <SolidSource> I should ask my brother, he has dual monitor running fine...but would be another day
[05:50] <epimeth> stdin: if I have ntfs-3g and ntfs-3g0 installed from the feisty depos, should I add the depos from the howto anyway?
[05:50] <razor__> at first it worked fine.. but the monitors were in reverse order, i kept mucking with it till nothing worked
[05:51] <razor__> SolidSource: please do find out.. i really miss my 2nd monitor
[05:51] <stdin> epimeth: no, don't think you'll need them
[05:51] <razor__> i'm upgrading to KDE 3.5.6 right now
[05:51] <SolidSource> razor__: only thing is, he doesn't run kubuntu
[05:51] <razor__> oh. well :(
[05:51] <epimeth> found the problem.. the shortcut is gksu instead of kdesu
[05:52] <stdin> epimeth: you just specify the filesystem type as ntfs-3g
[05:52] <SolidSource> epimeth: did you install kde on ubuntu?
[05:52] <crackhead> solidsource: what does he run
[05:52] <epimeth> nope... minimal kubuntu and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:52] <akrus> hello everyone
[05:52] <akrus> can anyone help with Card Reader? :)
[05:53] <SolidSource> crackhead: he has a few computers: a fedora, solaris, windows, and then a couple others
[05:53] <razor__> after i get this installed i'll have questions about getting my digital camera working
[05:53] <SolidSource> akrus: what kind of card reader?
[05:53] <crackhead> solidsource: what does he run the dual monitor with
[05:54] <SolidSource> akrus: USB or built in?
[05:54] <epimeth> SolidSource: why?
[05:54] <SolidSource> crackhead: think its the fedora machine...
[05:54] <epimeth> SolidSource: ohhhh... cuz of gksu?
[05:54] <akrus> SolidSource: USB
[05:54] <SolidSource> epimeth: yeah
[05:54] <akrus> SolidSource: actually it works, partially...
[05:54] <crackhead> a google research sesh may be in order on the dual monitoring with kubuntu..
[05:54] <akrus> SolidSource: under Windows everything is ok :x
[05:54] <akrus> dmesg|tail:
[05:54] <akrus> [83617.508000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[05:54] <akrus> [83617.508000]  sdc: rw=0, want=2498373, limit=1967616
[05:55] <razor__> heh
[05:55] <razor__> liar: windows is the devil
[05:55] <SolidSource> akrus: hmm
[05:55] <akrus> on pocketpc the card is reading ok :(
[05:55] <akrus> actually I think that's because of Card
[05:55] <akrus> cause 512mb one looks okay
[05:55] <akrus> but why does windows & pocketpc work well with it?
[05:56] <akrus> (Windows -> VMware)
[05:56] <saw2434> Can Anyone help me... I'm having trouble installing kubunutu on my external hard drive. It stops/stalls at the partioning step 5
[05:56] <SolidSource> akrus: well it should act just like a USB drive
[05:56] <akrus> saw2434: error? :)
[05:56] <akrus> SolidSource: it detects as SD card
[05:56] <akrus> SolidSource: then mounts it
[05:56] <akrus> SolidSource: but mostly files are not available
[05:57] <SolidSource> akrus: might have a permissions problem
[05:57] <akrus> SolidSource: and when copying it does the copying, but then after disconnecting/connecting the card back -> no files
[05:57] <razor__> akrus: i have the same issue with my digital camera
[05:57] <akrus> razor__: really? :3
[05:57] <razor__> it detects it.. just doesn't see the files on the camera
[05:57] <akrus> hm
[05:57] <saw2434> I dont get an error, It just takes forever. I've waited +40 mins
[05:58] <akrus> saw2434: likely HDD problem
[05:58] <akrus> saw2434: try using fsck on it
[05:58] <akrus> with bad blocks check
[05:58] <epimeth> anyhoo folks... I'm outa here
[05:58] <epimeth> good day to you all!
[05:58] <akrus> SolidSource: [83666.860000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 3786079) failed
[05:58] <akrus> :(
[05:59] <saw2434> Alright, thanks. I'll try that. Is fsck included on the live cd?
[05:59] <razor__> :watches the 3.5.6 compile
[05:59] <razor__> all done
[05:59] <aric> i have KDE right now, how do i install Gnome ?
[06:00] <SolidSource> akrus:hmm don't know, haven't run into such issues, I just had a permissions problem when I couldn't get linux to read/write
[06:00] <Jucato> !gnome | aric
[06:00] <ubotu> aric: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:00] <Jucato> bah
[06:00] <akrus> hm found a solution on ubuntuforums
[06:00] <akrus> lemme check
[06:00] <razor__> reboot time.. be back shortly :)
[06:00] <Jucato> aric: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[06:00] <akrus> *cries* the same :(
[06:01] <akrus> sdc: p1 exceeds device capacity :o
[06:01] <LL_Hakaisou> !vm-player
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vm-player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware-player
[06:01] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[06:01] <LL_Hakaisou> !vmware
[06:01] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:01] <SolidSource> lol
[06:01] <akrus> ubotu: thanks :)
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <akrus> hm
[06:01] <akrus> it was saying it's a bot
[06:01] <akrus> o_O
[06:02] <SolidSource> akrus: LOL...thats cause it is
[06:02] <akrus> yeah i know :)
[06:03] <akrus> SCSI device sdc: 1967616 512-byte hdwr sectors (1007 MB) !!!
[06:03] <akrus> that's it!
[06:03] <akrus> it detects it wrong
[06:03] <akrus> it's 2gb card :o
[06:04] <SolidSource> interesting
[06:04] <akrus> yeah :(
[06:04] <akrus> even formatting does not work :-/
[06:05] <SolidSource> oh...was goin to ask if you were using any kind of encryption on it
[06:05] <nonuda_> what is the GUI program for apache?
[06:05] <akrus> nonuda_: is there a GUI? o_O
[06:05] <LL_Hakaisou> updating is fun!
[06:05] <akrus> nonuda_: for what?
[06:06] <akrus> SolidSource: none
[06:06] <kowa> Sysinfo for 'Medionux': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 3.06GHz at 2400 MHz (4805 bogomips), HD: 7/53GB, RAM: 437/503MB, 118 proc's, 7.26min up
[06:07] <nonuda_> i recently download apache2, but i can't see the program icon in the menu or any documention of it
[06:07] <akrus> !apache2-doc
[06:07] <ubotu> apache2-doc: documentation for apache2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2074 kB, installed size 11376 kB
[06:07] <akrus> that's docu for it
[06:07] <akrus> or http://httpd.apache.org/
[06:07] <akrus> there won't be any icons, it's running as a service
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> nonuda_: apache doesnt have an icon
[06:07] <akrus>  /etc/init.d/apache2 status
[06:08] <akrus> (is status working?)
[06:08] <nonuda_> let me see...wait
[06:09] <akrus> ps ax|grep apache <-- checking if it works :3
[06:09] <nonuda_> can't find apache2 status
[06:09] <nonuda_> how to see if its running
[06:11] <akrus> ps ax|grep apache <-- checking if it works :3
[06:11] <akrus> SolidSource: it's a kernel problem :(
[06:11] <akrus> SolidSource: found on one website~
[06:12] <SolidSource> akrus: haha
[06:12] <akrus> SolidSource: 2.6.17 seems to work ok
[06:12] <akrus> but not 2.6.19/2.6.20 :(
[06:12] <akrus> so waiting for 2.6.21 in the repository or any patch x_X
[06:12] <SolidSource> akrus: should be fixed by April
[06:13] <inept> back finaly sine this is the default client on Kububtu :))
[06:13] <akrus> SolidSource: omg so long T_T
[06:13] <nonuda_> !pastebins
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <nonuda_> !pastebin
[06:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <akrus> well 512m card works welll
[06:13] <akrus> but not 2g
[06:14] <LL_Hakaisou> how do i set firefox as my default browser?
[06:15] <stdin> LL_Hakaisou: System Settings -> Default Applications
[06:15] <akrus> LL_Hakaisou: kcontrol
[06:15] <Hirvinen> System settings -> KDE components -> Default applications
[06:15] <akrus> O_O
[06:15] <inept> kubuntu sucks. no java, noinfif for anything. glad i disnt put me sh.... stuff on this
[06:15] <nonuda_> akrus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8179/
[06:15] <akrus> i have russian version so no idea x)
[06:15] <akrus> inept: java is installable ;P
[06:15] <Jucato> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[06:15] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-bin | inept
[06:15] <ubotu> inept: sun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76680 kB
[06:16] <LL_Hakaisou> thank you
[06:16] <LL_Hakaisou> !wine
[06:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:16] <akrus> Wine 0.9.31 is laggy
[06:16] <akrus> so 0.9.30 is the best for now
[06:16] <inept> geeeeee akrus i bought this disc so you could tell me that?
[06:17] <akrus> inept: that?
[06:17] <SolidSource> inept: go to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy it will take care of most things you need
[06:17] <Jucato> !java
[06:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:17] <inept> guess you get what you pay for :))
[06:17] <akrus> o_O
[06:17] <Jucato> you "bought" the Kubuntu CD?
[06:18] <akrus> Jucato: yep, it's sold in many places
[06:18] <akrus> actually there's LinuxCenter which's selling DVDs
[06:18] <secretary> hi
[06:18] <akrus> for ~8$
[06:18] <akrus> (7 EUR)
[06:18] <Jucato> DVD's probably...
[06:18] <akrus> yeah
[06:18] <akrus> CDs are rare thing lol
[06:18] <akrus> but someone was selling them for 5 USD (4 EUR)
[06:18] <Hirvinen> Jucato: What's wrong with selling (K)Ubuntu cs? Except that USD 8 or EUR 7 is robbery.
[06:19] <akrus> lol :)
[06:19] <Hirvinen> s/cs/CDs/
[06:19] <akrus> 6.06.1 LTS is freely available
[06:19] <Jucato> Hirvinen: nothing's wrong with selling them. buying them... well...
[06:19] <akrus> caleb: how much? :)
[06:19] <inept> hey!! rthanks guys but since im on 56 dial up like most of the world those links dont mean much
[06:19] <SolidSource> lol Frozentech.com is $3 for a DVD,,,,
[06:19] <akrus> caleb: 100 mbps? :)
[06:19] <SolidSource> so what ever is $8...you need to shop around
[06:19] <akrus> wow dialup <3
[06:19] <akrus> SolidSource: but it's delivered within a day
[06:20] <justin__> Hey can anyone help me on something? I'm trying to burn a ISO and it fails,
[06:20] <caleb> akrus: Okay, maybe not too fast, but fast enough. 5 mbps down...
[06:20] <bonbonthejon> inept: use shipit
[06:20] <justin__> the MD5 checksum is correct,
[06:20] <akrus> caleb: 2mbps/256kbps here :(
[06:20] <inept> try burning it slower justin
[06:20] <justin__> and the simulation mode works fine.
[06:20] <Hirvinen> Not everybody has a fast connection or a cd burner. OR the patience to wait for canonical to ship it. And it even doesn't ship Edgy cds.
[06:20] <SolidSource> akrus: I get mine in a bout 2-5 days...which plenty, but yes you will pay for next day if you want
[06:20] <akrus> i have four connections here lol :3
[06:20] <justin__> I was burning it at 1x.
[06:21] <akrus> 2048/256 (ADSL), 550/550 (Ethernet), 512/512 (WiFi), 48/12 (GPRS)
[06:21] <justin__> I was burning it with K3b
[06:21] <akrus> oh, someone from Poland here?
[06:21] <caleb> akrus: 5 mbps/256... Methinks my ISP likes to choke upstream because of people like me...
[06:21] <Jucato> !pl
[06:21] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:21] <Hirvinen> If I didn't have a fast connection, I might well buy a cd for a few euros.
[06:21] <akrus> caleb: using torrents too much? ;D
[06:21] <akrus> wow
[06:21] <Jucato> true. buying CD's is best for slow connections...
[06:21] <akrus> but I need english-speaking guys from poland
[06:22] <akrus> actually i wanna buy one thing which is sold in poland only
[06:22] <secretary> hi
[06:22] <caleb> akrus: No, but I do have a webserver and a FTP server running 24/7, though the FTP requires login.
[06:22] <akrus> but i need the reliable guy :3
[06:22] <Hirvinen> akrus: Wouldn't #ubuntu-pl be a good place to find them?
[06:22] <akrus> caleb: ah... 21/80 ports are unaccessible here x_X
[06:22] <akrus> ISP blocks them
[06:22] <secretary> can i join?
[06:22] <akrus> Hirvinen: maybe :3
[06:23] <bonbonthejon> secretary: join what
[06:23] <akrus> 6.12 Professional?
[06:23] <akrus> what's this???
[06:23] <secretary> with u
[06:23] <bonbonthejon> secretary: yes, you may join me
[06:23] <secretary> yes
[06:23] <inept> justin! think of downloads or burningas diving down the road. if your going 120 MPH your going to see things but if your going 20MPH your gloing to see a lot more detail. ISO's requires a lot of detail OK
[06:24] <prak> does anyone know what's the name of the kde utility that controls the window and desktop behaviour?
[06:24] <Jucato> prak: System Settings?
[06:24] <caleb> prak: Control Center?
[06:24] <Hirvinen> Jucato, caleb: What of those?
[06:25] <Jucato> Hirvinen: huh?
[06:25] <Ertain> !Wacom
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <wiseKid> Does anybody know how I can install pengaol?
[06:26] <SolidSource> prak: press "alt+f2" and type "kcontrol"
[06:26] <Hirvinen> Jucato, caleb: Whoops, sorry, I somehow missed prak's line entirely.
[06:26] <Jucato> :D
[06:26] <Hirvinen> It's 0726 here and I haven't slept.
[06:27] <caleb> 2326 here.
[06:27] <inept> and kubuntu or ubunto does not work at all on this computer without tweeking
[06:27] <prak> Jucato and caleb, I can't find it in system settings
[06:27] <epimeth> I know I left... but I came back, ok?
[06:27] <LL_Hakaisou> !wmv
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <epimeth> couldn't drag me away from you guys
[06:27] <prak> SolidSource: does "alt+F2" open up konsole?
[06:27] <SolidSource> inept: that happens...but any and all systems need some tweaking
[06:27] <Jucato> prak: what exactly are you looking for?
[06:28] <SolidSource> prak: no
[06:28] <Jucato> prak: Alt+F2 brings up the Run command dialog box
[06:28] <stdin> prak: Alt-F2 opens the Run dialogue
[06:28] <prak> changing the window scheme
[06:28] <Jucato> dialogue? :D
[06:28] <prak> Jucato
[06:28] <epimeth> seriously tho... is it possible that ntfs-3g erased my hebrew folders?
[06:28] <Ertain> Might anyone know about Wacom tablets?  Udev keeps mistaking my tablet for another mouse.
[06:28] <epimeth> cuz they are gone
[06:28] <Jucato> prak: window decoration? System Settings -> Appearance
[06:28] <stdin> Jucato: dialogue = british spelling I suppose
[06:29] <SolidSource> kubuntu control panel sucks!!! Kcontrol is the original and will remain king!
[06:29] <Hirvinen> (Why did they remove kcontrol in favor of System settings btw?)
[06:29] <Jucato> stdin: dialog != dialogue :D
[06:29] <Hirvinen> I as well find System Settings to be quite confusing compared to it.
[06:29] <stdin> Jucato: actually they have the same meaning
[06:30] <Jucato> stdin: dialogue is American spelling, too. afaik
[06:30] <Jucato> stdin: er no. :)
[06:30] <Jucato> dialog = a program window. :)
[06:30] <troxor> usn't dialogue what this is?
[06:30] <epimeth> troxor: nope... dialogue is a conversation between two or more people
[06:30] <troxor> s/usn/isn/g
[06:30] <stdin> Jucato: the root of the word, but let's not get -offtopic :P
[06:30] <troxor> epimeth: haha, touche`
[06:30] <Jucato> :P
[06:31] <epimeth> why /g?  just once was enough :-p
[06:31] <Hirvinen> And some things I can't find there at all. Where, for example, can file associations be controlled from System Settings?
[06:31] <SolidSource> dialogue = speaking (usually 2 people) dialog = a type of signal\
[06:31] <bh_> How do I get the latest kubuntu package if I'm running etch ?
[06:31] <Jucato> Hirvinen: in Konqueror already
[06:31] <bh_> I seem to be running 3.5.5 and not 3.5.6
[06:31] <Jucato> bh_: huh? Kubuntu doesn't have etch
[06:31] <bh_> hmmm
[06:32] <zeekstarr> can anyone shoot me a lis twith a full list of repositories so I can update my list?
[06:32] <caleb> bh_: Are you sure you don't mean Edgy?
[06:32] <bh_> I mean edgy :)
[06:32] <zeekstarr> link*
[06:32] <bh_> caleb, correct
[06:32] <Jucato> !kde | bh_
[06:32] <ubotu> bh_: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:32] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic | zeekstarr
[06:32] <ubotu> zeekstarr: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:32] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Bah. Doesn't affect Konqueror only, so shouldn't be accessible only there.
[06:32] <Jucato> Hirvinen: System Settings is meant to be a lightweight KControl alternative, presenting the control modules in more meaningful groups and removing duplicated settings.
[06:32] <zeekstarr> thanks
[06:32] <Jucato> Hirvinen: Konqueror is the file manager, and thus has the file associations settings
[06:33] <Jucato> Hirvinen: it has been in Konqueror since the beginning.
[06:33] <Jucato> not only in Kubuntu but in default KDE as well
[06:33] <bh_> Jucato, I'm looking for a specific apt line of some sort
[06:33] <bh_> It's kind of hard to find it from the web page
[06:33] <bh_> and all I see is iso images
[06:34] <inept> does anyone in charge understand that the world wants KDE and wants it to work out of the box? including the people at kubuntu?
[06:34] <stdin> bh_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[06:34] <caleb> bh_: Add this to your sources.list file deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[06:34] <Jucato> bh_: the announcement for KDE 3.5.6 which stdin gave
[06:34] <Hirvinen> Jucato: But as it affects anything that uses KDE's file associations, which means a lot of non-Konqueror applications, it should be accessible from other places as well, as it is in kcontrol.
[06:34] <epimeth> YES!!! I had mistyped the locale!! woo hoo!!!!!!
[06:34] <epimeth> my music isn't dissapeared
[06:35] <bh_> caleb, thanks
[06:35] <epimeth> inept: I don't understand... what part of kde didn't work for you oob?
[06:35] <SolidSource> Hirvinen: even in windows, the main place to change file associations is in windows explorer (IE)
[06:35] <epimeth> inept: you've been complaining since the second you came in here
[06:35] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[06:36] <Jucato> Hirvinen: which, as a *file manager* Konqueror should be controlling. It is the app manages files, no matter what program actually views or opens it. (btw, there are no "Konqueror applications")
[06:36] <inept> epi! alot of KDE does not work in Kubunto
[06:36] <SolidSource> inept: everything works fine
[06:37] <epimeth> inept: I've heard that from you at least three times already.  can I have a solid answer?
[06:37] <epimeth> inept: what, *specifically* does not work?
[06:37] <caleb> inept: sudo aptitude install kde
[06:38] <Hirvinen> SolidSource: It's there as well, but IIRC is accessible from control panel. But that doesn't change the fact that file associations are global to KDE and not just restricted to Konqueror. If on Windows they aren't accessible from Control Panel, then Windows just fails as well.
[06:38] <inept> then solid! i guess you have never run KDE uless some distro har has gave it to you. including konsole
[06:38] <epimeth> Hirvinen: in windows they are accessible from Control Panel
[06:38] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Non-Konqueror == anything that is not Konqueror. Opposite of that is something that is Konqueror.
[06:39] <Jucato> inept: please be more specific in your problems
[06:39] <sparr> inept: what specific part of kde isnt working for you in kubuntu?
[06:39] <Jucato> Hirvinen: there is no "something that is Konqueror" app
[06:39] <epimeth> inept: again... making vague statements.  what, specifically, did not work out of box?
[06:39] <epimeth> Hirvinen: the only thing that is Konqueror *is* Konqueror
[06:39] <sparr> Jucato: i would say that Konqueror qualifies as "something that is Konqueror"...
[06:39] <MuJ> epimeth: isn't that the point?
[06:39] <epimeth> Hirvinen: *everything* else is non-konqueror
[06:39] <Jucato> sparr: semantics :)
[06:40] <justin__> Okay I ran K3b again and this is really weird,it says the MD5 hash is invalid but before the burn it worked.
[06:40] <Hirvinen> epimeth: I don't believe to have said anything else.
[06:40] <Hirvinen> And echo sparr.
[06:40] <Jucato> Hirvinen: A file manager manages files. it manages how files will behave, be displayed, located, and opened.
[06:40] <caleb> inept: I compiled KDE 3.3 from source back when I ran SUSE 9, so I _think_ I can say that Kubuntu does a good job of giving us a good KDE, when comparing to my from-source days...
[06:40] <epimeth> Hirvinen: <Hirvinen> Jucato: But as it affects anything that uses KDE's file associations, which means a lot of non-Konqueror applications, it should be accessible from other places as well, as it is in kcontrol.
[06:41] <justin__> I'm just going to run it anyway,see ya.
[06:41] <Jucato> this is getting offtopic btw
[06:41] <Hirvinen> epimeth: That means "applications other than Konqueror."
[06:41] <SolidSource> inept: I have been using linux for a while, I know konsole...just cause you can't seem to get around something doesn't mean whatever it is sucks, just means you don't know everything about every system...things change, commands change especially between distros....so unless you got specifics, stop complaining
[06:41] <inept> i don't have problems! ep unless some distro or want to be distro gives me problems. i understand u nix farly well and bash.
[06:41] <epimeth> Hirvinen: so why didn't you say so in the first place?
[06:42] <epimeth> Hirvinen: what it seemed like was that you were implying that there were konqueror-apllications as well as non-konqueror apps
[06:42] <ants> oh bother for closed source drivers
[06:42] <Jucato> Hirvinen: if Konqueror's settings should only affect itself. then KControl's settings should only affect itself too. it shouldn't be able to file associations at all.
[06:42] <epimeth> inept: so what are you complaining about?
[06:42] <ants> my smartcard reader has drivers for 2.6.18
[06:43] <inept> solid1 SUDO RENAME SEEMS TO HELP FIX UBUNTOLU :)
[06:43] <MuJ> troll
[06:43] <inept> paswwd
[06:43] <inept>  THAT HELPS
[06:43] <inept>  lol
[06:43] <epimeth> inept: you said, and I quote, "<inept> epi! alot of KDE does not work in Kubunto"
[06:43] <ants> but those are broken in 2.6.20
[06:43] <LL_Hakaisou> !virtual machine
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual machine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <epimeth> inept: in other words, something didn't work for you
[06:43] <Jucato> !caps | inept
[06:43] <ubotu> inept: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:44] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks, ubotu
[06:44] <Tm_T> MuJ: You are.
[06:44] <inept> THAT IS RIGHT EP
[06:44] <MuJ> Tm_T: I am.. but I admit it :|
[06:44] <epimeth> !vmware | LL_Hakaisou
[06:44] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:44] <Hirvinen> Jucato: I have not said that those settings should not be accessible under Konqueror. I have said that they should be accessible outside of it *in addition* to Konqueror, because they also affect things outside Konqueror.
[06:44] <Tm_T> inept: Cut those caps.
[06:44] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: What do you need to know, and under what version of Ubuntu?
[06:44] <epimeth> inept: what is right? you keep talking in circles!
[06:44] <inept> th! its the nails but i will cut them :))
[06:45] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: File association should be controlled in Konq and in Kcontrol IMO.
[06:45] <ants> ok, looking at the drivers, they are actually open source, but unfortunately not in the kernel tree, so 2.6.20 workqueue changes broke the code
[06:45] <SolidSource> inept: ok, again, something might not have worked for you, just means you are having a problem and there is probably another way around it....so why not give some specifics of what you are doing and such, then just maybe one of us will know another way to fix the problem
[06:45] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: I know that kvm works rather well under Feisty, and is much faster than VMWare, but it's not got a GUI config, and you have to have a processor with virtualization support.
[06:46] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: And actually it seems to be too.
[06:46] <epimeth> !kvm | epimeth
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm gonna install my copy of Windows XP home as a virtual machine
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> just want some info on it
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> also, i'm running edgy
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> unless i don't have to reinstall to update...
[06:47] <LL_Hakaisou> which was my impression
[06:47] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: Edit your sources.conf to say "feisty" where it says "edgy"
[06:47] <akrus> Jucato: are you here?
[06:47] <Jucato> akrus: yes?
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> hello
[06:47] <caleb> Do a sudo aptitude update, followed by a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:47] <Hirvinen> Tm_T: I agree. And they are. But I think that they should be in System Settings as well, at least on Kubuntu, now that Kubuntu has replaced Kcontrol by System Settings in its default installation.
[06:47] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: don't upgrade to feisty
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> i'm installing kubuntu edgy eft now. but i have a linksys wmp11 and no ethernet access to my system
[06:47] <akrus> Jucato: is it possible to specify the sectors number via mount?
[06:47] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: unless you *really* want to
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> in the installation process, what kernel modules do i need to install to get it to work with network stuff?
[06:47] <Tm_T> caleb: Don't point LL_Hakaisou to Feisty until it's stable thanks.
[06:47] <Jucato> akrus: er.. sorry don't  really know
[06:47] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: it's still very buggy... stable, but buggy
[06:48] <akrus> hmm ok :)
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> anyone?
[06:48] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: True, hm, that seems to be issue, mind to file a bug?
[06:48] <Jucato> Tm_T, Hirvinen: it's is not a bug
[06:48] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: there is a possibility to have a problem if you upgrade distro versions if there are 3rd party apps installed
[06:48] <akrus> lol new error :)
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> i need to know what i have to do to get ubuntu's installation process to play nice with my linksys wmp11
[06:48] <akrus> [87006.728000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdc1)
[06:48] <akrus> [87006.728000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[06:48] <akrus> [87006.728000]      File system has been set read-only
[06:48] <Jucato> System Settings *is not* KControl.
[06:48] <Tm_T> Jucato: wish"bug"
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> i hae no network access otherwise
[06:48] <LL_Hakaisou> the only 3rd party app i've got is firefox
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> no ethernet, etc.
[06:48] <Tm_T> Jucato: I still keep saying wish as bugs. ;)
[06:48] <Jucato> Tm_T: it will only be rejected
[06:48] <caleb> epimeth: I find it works well, but there are some things that are still in flux with Feisty. However, it's holding up pretty well on my notebook.
[06:48] <Jucato> !pastebin | akrus
[06:48] <ubotu> akrus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop
[06:48] <LL_Hakaisou> and if i lose that it's no big deal, i can just reinstall and restore it
[06:48] <akrus> Jucato: yep i know
[06:49] <nobane> right now it boots up to the gnome login and I want it to be the KDE login
[06:49] <epimeth> jack_deltrino: try the livecd first... if it works, it works, if not then try google... doesn't seem like anyone here knows
[06:49] <Tm_T> Jucato: Atleast it's said, or do you think only "sure cases" should be filed?
[06:49] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Why is it a bad thing for a setting to be in several places? Especially when the setting affects things outside the application where it is most often used?
[06:49] <inept> Hakv! this is very bugy but its a start! if you cant handle linux then go back to windows
[06:49] <epimeth> caleb: I'm using it, myself, I don't go 4 hours without something crashing
[06:49] <Jucato> Hirvinen: because System Settings is not KControl. that's the main reason. the 2 apps have different goals, different paths
[06:49] <epimeth> caleb: usually adept or konqueror
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> inept, you talking to me?
[06:50] <Jucato> one strives for simplicity, the other is for power users or old timers
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> cause i acutally am liking kubuntu
[06:50] <fudgey> hey
[06:50] <inept> yes hak
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> wtf?!
[06:50] <Jucato> Tm_T: he can try. but I'm saving him the pain of being told again.. :)
[06:50] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: Just file that wish, IMO better to file and get rejected than sit silent in the corner crying.
[06:50] <caleb> epimeth: That's odd, because I've been running Feisty since Herd 2, and had no problems, except for Adept, and that's not really an issue since I normally use aptitude instead.
[06:50] <fudgey> has anyone installed beryl on 6.10 with nvidia?
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> i wanna use a vm of windows to play video files.
[06:50] <epimeth> is there an op in the room?  I don't think I'm alone in saying inept is bothering people?
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> is that so horrible?
[06:50] <Tm_T> Jucato: Oh, there's no pain, I'm sure. ;)
[06:50] <fudgey> if so how did you get nvidia to work?
[06:51] <bh_> aptitude dist-upgrade is being a pain from normal edgy.
[06:51] <inept> gee ep
[06:51] <LL_Hakaisou> also, i'm pretty sure i can't install visual studio in linux
[06:51] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Is it simplicity, that a system wide setting such as file association is not found under a place called system settings?
[06:51] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[06:51] <bh_> It complains that ktalkd is broken, what's up with that ?
[06:51] <LL_Hakaisou> and i need it for a class
[06:51] <epimeth> caleb: different hardware, amigo
[06:51] <adydas> whats the package for flash suitable for opera?
[06:51] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE
[06:51] <Jucato> Hirvinen: because the file manager should be able to handle that already. and in fact, it already does
[06:51] <fudgey> has anyone installed beryl on 6.10 with nvidia?
[06:51] <epimeth> caleb: when adept was deemed "fixed" I couldn't run it... yesterday's update finally got it working
[06:52] <Jucato> Hirvinen: I do not know why they put it in KControl also in the first place. KControl sometimes duplicates a lot of settings that can already be reached in the proper apps
[06:52] <adydas> fudgey: i did today
[06:52] <adydas> Nvidia 7900GT, Edgy
[06:52] <Hirvinen> adydas: The same as for anything else. You just have to select it to be used from Opera -> Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Content -> plugins.
[06:52] <fudgey> great
[06:52] <epimeth> inept: sorry, buddy, but you are.  I haven't heard you say a single positive or helpful thing since you got here
[06:52] <Jucato> fudgey: Kubuntu 6.10, using NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
[06:53] <fudgey> adydas: what should I do when gdm doesnt start?
[06:53] <caleb> epimeth: Quite true. I was blessed with the perfect Linux notebook when I picked a cheap Toshiba off the rack at Sam's. As I said, I usually use aptitude from Konsole, so I normally don't bother with Adept.
[06:53] <inept> ep1 RIGHT NOW I AM RUNNING SuSE,MEPIS6,FREESPIRE,DEBIAN,REDHAT,WIN xp :((
[06:53] <Jucato> inept: drop the caps. final warning
[06:53] <epimeth> caleb: toshibas are the perfect linux notebooks
[06:53] <fudgey> I read something about installing the nvidia drivers
[06:53] <adydas> fudgey: use this
[06:53] <adydas> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[06:53] <inept> AND KUBUNTU
[06:53] <adydas> worked Mint for me
[06:53] <epimeth> caleb: I have two friends who've never had problems running linux on toshibas
[06:53] <inept> 6.1
[06:53] <adydas> just maek sure u use the KDE part and not like me start it off with the gnome way of it hah
[06:54] <fudgey> beryl disabled my originall nvidia drivers =/
[06:54] <fudgey> so its laggy now
[06:54] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Under System Settings there's a section called Storage Media. Sounds like a file thing to me. Should that be only in Konqueror as well?
[06:54] <fudgey> after trying to remove beryl
[06:54] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE
[06:54] <Hirvinen> Or sound and multimedia only in multimedia applications?
[06:54] <inept>  now if i am irritating you kubuntu people then build a better distro
[06:54] <caleb> epimeth: I've never had any problems, either. However, my grandpa's new Toshiba refuses to sleep or hibernate under either Edgy or Feisty. Any possible fixes?
[06:54] <Jucato> Hirvinen: no, because there's no app that handles KDE Multimedia notifications. please check what the module does first
[06:55] <nobane> some one!?!?
[06:55] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE
[06:55] <fudgey> adydas: which method should I use?
[06:55] <epimeth> caleb: sorry man... not a clue
[06:55] <epimeth> nobane: give me a minute
[06:55] <Jucato> inept: if you want to help build a better distro, give more constructive and definite problems or ideas.don't just rant
[06:55] <inept> hell ! my old.. PH refuses to even reboot under kubuntu
[06:55] <xoss> is there an app in kubuntu that makes it easier to send a file to someone in the net?
[06:55] <nobane> k
[06:56] <inept> HP
[06:56] <xoss> ive tried using GAIM to send a file to a YM user he didnt get the file...
[06:56] <adydas> fudgey: the repos way
[06:56] <adydas> i did it
[06:56] <inept> but i kind of like kubuntu if you figure out how to make it work
[06:57] <adydas> i coudl allmost tell you want to do, you get the repo file add the line for beryl projects, add the key apt-get update, apt-get install beryl, beryl manager and like the theme thing and your basically done
[06:57] <caleb> nobane: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[06:57] <adydas> faff with the x11 conf and your done
[06:57] <inept> does that bother anyone?
[06:57] <nobane> thank you!
[06:57] <caleb> nobane: Anytime.
[06:58] <nobane> :)
[06:58] <fudgey> okie
[06:58] <inept> i need another distro
[06:58] <fudgey> thanks a ton!
[06:58] <SolidSource> inept: KDE works in kubuntu just like in any other distro, but yes some commands must change due to the type of system it is....so unless you are going to be reasonable, helpful and constructive.....just please leave..........but no matter, /ignore time
[06:58] <LL_Hakaisou> inept
[06:58] <inept> i like deb and KDE though :((
[06:58] <LL_Hakaisou> i know that you think you are, and possibly may well be, some linux power user
[06:59] <epimeth> caleb: beat me to it!
[06:59] <LL_Hakaisou> but it is my impression that this chat is primarily for people who are new to ubuntu, and your elitest tone isn't all that helpful
[06:59] <Hirvinen> Tm_T: Do you think I should file it as a KDE or Ubuntu bug?
[06:59] <Jucato> Hirvinen: Ubuntu bug
[07:00] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: if he was, he would understand that there are differences and things will work different from system to system and thus be reasonable and not just complain
[07:00] <SolidSource> /ignore inept
[07:00] <Jucato> Hirvinen: or wish
[07:00] <fudgey> I got a problem
[07:00] <inept> good solid! i am happy you finaly found out what the iggy button is for :)
[07:00] <fudgey> my update manager doesnt open =/
[07:00] <LL_Hakaisou> that being said
[07:00] <fudgey> it just closes
[07:00] <inept> everyone one should have an achievement
[07:00] <fudgey> beryl really messed up my system =/
[07:01] <LL_Hakaisou> stop being an @$$hat, pull your heat out of your @$$, and try to be decent to the other people in the server
[07:02] <fudgey> hint too all ubuntu users with nvidia!!
[07:02] <caleb> fudgey: Open Konsole and type "sudo aptitude purge beryl" I believe. w/o quotes, of course.
[07:02] <Jucato> fudgey: yep?
[07:02] <LL_Hakaisou> fudgey: get ati? XD
[07:02] <fudgey> errors
[07:02] <ForgeAus> wow qt4 designer looks way nicer than qt3 one did... only its alot more Gimp-ified being in separate windows...
[07:03] <fudgey> repository is not known
[07:03] <fudgey> on line 43
[07:03] <Jucato> fudgey: beryl is a hit or miss thing.... it's not that stable to be reliable for everyone
[07:03] <fudgey> sources could not be read
[07:03] <SolidSource> fudgey: beryl itself is kind of a mess
[07:03] <fudgey> aw crap
[07:03] <fudgey> now what
[07:03] <Jucato> ForgeAus: really? I like that :D
[07:03] <fudgey> I gotta reinstall my system
[07:03] <Jucato> fudgey: so you're trying to install Beryl, not NVIDIA drivers?
[07:03] <fudgey> nah fuck beryl
[07:04] <Jucato> please watch the language
[07:04] <stdin> !language
[07:04] <caleb> fudgey: type "sudo kate /etc/X11/sources.list" and edit the offending line.
[07:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:04] <fudgey> im gonna try fix ubuntu now
[07:04] <Jucato> fudgey: ok, so what happened and what is the problem?
[07:04] <adydas> caleb: Err
[07:04] <ForgeAus> ahh nice... well I found the option to switch modes (mdi vs gimpified)
[07:04] <inept> aren'n we all using linux? i mean that is the kernal isant it?
[07:04] <Jucato> fudgey: were you trying to install nvidia?
[07:04] <fudgey> yep
[07:04] <Jucato> fudgey: or were you trying to install beryl?
[07:04] <fudgey> first beryl
[07:04] <adydas> beryl first
[07:04] <adydas> then do nvidia
[07:05] <adydas> follow that how to
[07:05] <fudgey> then it removed my nvidia drivers and many system files
[07:05] <ForgeAus> theres quite a wide range of operating systems that go under the heading of Linux
[07:05] <adydas> it worked fine for me first pop
[07:05] <Jucato> hm....
[07:05] <fudgey> now I cant do much
[07:05] <Jucato> adydas: what works for one doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone though...
[07:05] <caleb> fudgey: The error on line 43 of your sources.conf when you run aptitude or apt-get, right?
[07:05] <epimeth> so... anyone know how to get hebrew fonts for the filesystem?
[07:05] <fudgey> yeah
[07:05] <LL_Hakaisou> !system restore
[07:05] <fudgey> exactly
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[07:05] <SolidSource> !hebrew
[07:05] <ubotu>         :
[07:05] <adydas> Jucato: NV + Beryl via the wikipedia site.. it covered a range of situations
[07:06] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[07:06] <Jucato> fudgey: try checking what is in the 43rd line of your sources.list
[07:06] <SolidSource> !fonts
[07:06] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:06] <inept> realy forge! i thought the kenal maintainer decided what linux kernal was
[07:06] <ForgeAus> if you havn't seen it yet this is an intersting site: http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> is there anyway to create a restore point in linux in case i need to revert back to working settings?
[07:06] <ForgeAus> shows a timeline of linux distros... but it is in no way complete
[07:06] <fudgey> how to edit?
[07:06] <caleb> fudgey: That command I gave will open your sources.list in Kate, and then you should be able to fix it.
[07:06] <Jucato> inept: Linux is technically the kernel only. A lot of people prefer to call the OS as "Linux" also. period
[07:06] <inept> gues i am to drunk to remember the details
[07:06] <fudgey> kate doesnt work
[07:07] <fudgey> command not found
[07:07] <adydas> fudgey: these repos worked for m
[07:07] <adydas> deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[07:07] <adydas> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[07:07] <ForgeAus> btw Jucato remember my debian problrm?
[07:07] <caleb> fudgey: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:07] <epimeth> damn... the hebrew works... its just that those folders are in a different encoding than whatever the standard he_IL is
[07:07] <epimeth> grrr
[07:07] <Jucato> ForgeAus: which one? sorry short term memory :D
[07:07] <ForgeAus> those packages that wanted to break?
[07:07] <ForgeAus> big time depenancy circle?
[07:07] <Jucato> oh
[07:07] <ForgeAus> I fixed it :)
[07:08] <ForgeAus> but in what you'd probably call a bad way
[07:08] <inept> guess if kate doesent work then you you must be running linux with the KDE desktop
[07:08] <Jucato> ForgeAus: because you added the debian repo?
[07:08] <ForgeAus> yup turned out there was a mising dependancy in the edgy repos
[07:08] <fudgey> 43 line nvidia driver repository
[07:08] <ForgeAus> just one package fixed it :)
[07:08] <ForgeAus> so it wasn't broken it just wasn uninstallable
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[07:08] <Jucato> ForgeAus: good. but next time, try not to mix repositories :)
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i never knew that red hat was a parent distro
[07:09] <ForgeAus> I'll be careful not to overwrite any edgy stuff with debian but I'm not promising not to add debian packages
[07:09] <fudgey> why would beryl remove the nvidia drivers?
[07:09] <fudgey> thats weird
[07:09] <Jucato> inept: please stop talking nonsense. if you are drunk, do not stay here and annoy people
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> just ignore him jucato
[07:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Debian .deb packages are mostly (not everytime) ok, though
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> the rest of the channel already has
[07:09] <SolidSource> fudgey: that is good question...but its just more reason to wait for it to become more stable
[07:09] <inept> redhat was aroung a long time before ubunto
[07:10] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: I'm not allowed to. but I have a better solution if he doesn't stop
[07:10] <fudgey> now im stuck with an unstable system haha
[07:10] <LL_Hakaisou> o rly?
[07:10] <ForgeAus> well I was a bit concerned about it seeing as QT in general is an essential component of KDE
[07:10] <Jucato> fudgey: perhaps the beryl repository contains a more updated nvidia driver than the one provided by Ubuntu
[07:10] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what do you mean?
[07:10] <daft_> g'day
[07:10] <daft_> how can i use .cgwdtheme files with compiz?
[07:10] <fudgey> so my card is not new enough?
[07:10] <ForgeAus> isn't KDE built on the QT toolkit?
[07:11] <fudgey> or the configuration needs to be fixed
[07:11] <caleb> fudgey: What model do you have?
[07:11] <ForgeAus> or is QT built into KDE? (in which case why would one need QT as well?)
[07:11] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes. but I don't understand what it had to do w/ Debian repositories? :D
[07:11] <LL_Hakaisou> !xubuntu
[07:11] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:11] <fudgey> 6600 geforce OC
[07:11] <Jucato> ForgeAus: KDE needs Qt libs :)
[07:11] <inept> ubuntu is kinda like lindows or whatever its called now or the rest of them befor debian that like to claim asosietion
[07:11] <LL_Hakaisou> oh ok then
[07:11] <ForgeAus> oh I was more concerned about the edgy ones...
[07:11] <Jucato> inept: I'm giving you your final warning
[07:11] <LL_Hakaisou> i kinda like KDE though, so i'll stick with this
[07:12] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Qt4 is available on Edgy btw. and you can install them side by side w/ Qt3
[07:12] <daft_> guilt by asosietion eh
[07:12] <ForgeAus> yeah thats what I got now
[07:12] <inept> juc! if you cant handle the truth kick me :)
[07:12] <caleb> fudgey: That's odd, because I had beryl working with my GeForce 4 MX... I'd try installing the drivers from NVidia's website, first and deleting the line from the sources.conf... Again, this worked for me but it may or may not work for you.
[07:12] <daft_> anyone know how to use cgwdtheme files with compiz?
[07:12] <akrus> posted a bug report :)
[07:13] <Jucato> inept: I can handle the truth. but you have not done anything but rant and annoy people and have already ignored my warnings
[07:13] <Jucato> daft_: try #ubuntu-effects
[07:13] <SolidSource> Jucato: wouldn't Qt4 be backwards compatible with things for Qt3?
[07:13] <daft_> ta
[07:13] <akrus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89138 :3
[07:13] <fudgey> caleb does this include compiling?
[07:13] <fudgey> I have a really hard time compiling =/
[07:13] <Jucato> SolidSource: there's a special package for Qt3 compatibility, but technically, no
[07:13] <Jucato> !nvidia | fudgey
[07:13] <ubotu> fudgey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:14] <Jucato> fudgey: I think there are instructions there on how to install the NVIDIA driver from nvidia.com
[07:14] <akrus> feisty 7.04 (FROZEN) <-- what does frozen mean?
[07:14] <Jucato> fudgey: you basically need a newer driver than the one provided by nvidia-glx
[07:14] <Jucato> akrus: it means that no new (big) features/apps can be added at this point in time
[07:14] <caleb> fudgey: It's a binary blob installer, so it's all self-contained, IIRC. Just make sure to do a "chmod 755" on the file, because otherwise, it won't run, if my memory serves me correctly.
[07:15] <akrus> Jucato: ah thanks
[07:15] <SolidSource> akrus: yep...the next month will be focused on bug fixes to make things stable and workign
[07:16] <fudgey> what if I have seen an eror relating to the chmod?
[07:16] <MarkC> woohoo, feisty is frozen now!!!
[07:16] <MarkC> all bugs are now features :)
[07:16] <fudgey> which directories should I chmod?
[07:16] <akrus> knetworkmanager will be working?! can't believe xD
[07:16] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[07:17] <akrus> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) is expected to be released in October 2006. :)
[07:17] <akrus> it's like we're going to play yesterday xD
[07:17] <Jucato> MarkC: Frozen doesn't mean no bug fixing :D
[07:17] <fudgey> brb im gonna log off root
[07:17] <SolidSource> akrus: I think the more critical thing would be whether external wireless cards and various peripherals would start working or working better
[07:17] <spitwise_> i changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list, but on upgrade it's holding back about 700 packages
[07:17] <akrus> oh by the way
[07:17] <akrus> WPA not working at all
[07:17] <akrus> on both of my routers o_O
[07:18] <Jucato> !upgrade | spitwise_
[07:18] <stdin> !upgrade | spitwise_
[07:18] <ubotu> spitwise_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:18] <akrus> can't connect, always fails~
[07:18] <Jucato> stdin: :P
[07:18] <spitwise_> tnx Jucato
[07:18] <SolidSource> akrus: yeah, never could get WPA working
[07:18] <stdin> ohh, just missed it :P
[07:18] <caleb> fudgey: In Konsole, do an "ls" and you should see a file that looks like "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-96**-pkg1.run" and then chmod that file.
[07:18] <crackhead> question: what should i do when adept sort of freezes during "preparing" stage of isntallation, after it's downloaded all the files??
[07:18] <inept> realy junk! i cant log in as my defined user name into Konsole ..because ubuntu dosent do it that wagty, Kubuntu does not include the JAVA runtimes on purcheasd Distros,kububtu decides what i can install from KDE. and Kubuntu only has one channel as defualt on thier default irc chanel?
[07:18] <Jucato> crackhead: what are you installing
[07:18] <inept>  kick me fskwit
[07:18] <caleb> The part that I used the ** for may be different from mine, so that's why I used the placeholders.
[07:19] <akrus> Jucato: developer? :x
[07:19] <crackhead> im installing a whole bunch of stuff
[07:19] <Jucato> akrus: not really :D
[07:19] <akrus> cheater? :D
[07:20] <Jucato> operator != developer :D
[07:20] <epimeth> its like superman
[07:20] <MuJ> omg wallhax :B
[07:20] <epimeth> you take your glasses off for 5 minutes
[07:20] <SolidSource> did he just say purchased distros? isn't ubuntu 100% free....which means if you buy it, you have had someone else burn the disc for you and mail it to you?
[07:20] <epimeth> do what needs doing
[07:20] <akrus> :)
[07:20] <Jucato> epimeth: usually less than a minute :D
[07:20] <epimeth> and go back to a mild-mannered channel dweller
[07:20] <Jucato> SolidSource: he bought the CD off somewhere
[07:21] <SolidSource> Jucato: I buy my discs...
[07:21] <duckdown> I am trying to watch a video clip in my Firefox but it can't load the application/x-mplayer2 plugin.  How do I fix this?
[07:21] <SolidSource> Jucato: but there is no difference between buying and downloading the disc ISO...except who burns the disc
[07:21] <Jucato> SolidSource: yep.
[07:22] <SolidSource> Jucato: he must be used to paying for red hat and Mandriva (mandrake)
[07:22] <Magic-Fx> hey i've just started using kubuntu and im having some problems with my networking... is anyone available to help me out???
[07:22] <SolidSource> what problem?
[07:23] <caleb> Magic-Fx: And what networking hardware, while we're at it.
[07:23] <epimeth> speaking of burning discs... can I change my jigdo file to point to newer versions of packages... that way getting an "up to date" install disc?
[07:23] <Magic-Fx> ok... let me get started lol
[07:23] <SolidSource> epimeth: ....huh?
[07:23] <Magic-Fx> i have installed kubuntu 6.10 and updated all the packages... i connect to the internet through a router and im having problems with both the internet AND the network
[07:23] <epimeth> SolidSource: whats misunderstood?
[07:23] <Magic-Fx> i THINK its an issue with the DHCP but im not 100% sure
[07:24] <caleb> Magic-FX: Is it wireless or wired?
[07:24] <Magic-Fx> i am plugged strait into the router; but it is wireless
[07:24] <SolidSource> epimeth: you meaning update your install disc? cause you would generally have to burn a new disc for each version upgrade
[07:24] <epimeth> after installing kubuntu, an apt-get update installs updated packages.  I want these on the disc in the first place, no?
[07:24] <Magic-Fx> there is only 1 computer connected through wireless and the other computer is connected directly as is mine.
[07:25] <epimeth> SolidSource: no... just burn new ones and trash the old ones
[07:25] <caleb> Magic-Fx: So it's your wired connection that's having trouble?
[07:25] <SolidSource> epimeth: oh, they are actually stored for the most part
[07:25] <orient2000> Hi! Does anybody know why some DVDs do not show any files on it? malformed?
[07:25] <caleb> orient2000: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[07:25] <SolidSource> epimeth: not sure where, but you can also download load them with an apt-get command to be able to burn them
[07:26] <SolidSource> epimeth: as for a script to do it, don't know exactly
[07:26] <epimeth> SolidSource: forget it... I'm not even sure of what I'm asking
[07:27] <Magic-Fx> caleb: yeah... sometimes when i open firefox it wont load the page and other times it works fine, which is why im thinking its an issue with the dhcp.
[07:27] <epimeth> anyway... I *really* have to get some work done... so I'm gonna say "adios"... and not switch to "away" mode this time, right Jucato?
[07:27] <orient2000> libdvdcss2 is on a system
[07:27] <Jucato> epimeth: right :)
[07:27] <Jucato> epimeth: actuallyh
[07:27] <Jucato> you can switch to /away. just turn off the public /away message
[07:27] <epimeth> psych :-p
[07:28] <Jucato> epimeth: you were saying?
[07:28] <Jucato> :D
[07:28] <caleb> Magic-Fx: When it doesn't work, what do you usually do to fix the problem?
[07:28] <fudgey> hey
[07:28] <Magic-Fx> well... nothing. lol
[07:28] <Magic-Fx> sometimes it works sometimes it dont
[07:28] <orient2000> OK
[07:28] <Magic-Fx> i just keep closing it and retrying
[07:28] <fudgey> after installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?
[07:29] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Does it usually occur close to when you wake the system from standby/hibernation or on a clean boot, or does it just pop up out of nowhere, with the machine still running the whole time?
[07:29] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[07:29] <Magic-Fx> out of nowhere
[07:30] <caleb> Magic-Fx: What network card do you have in your machine?
[07:30] <Magic-Fx> lspci
[07:30] <Magic-Fx> oops
[07:30] <Magic-Fx> hold one sec lol
[07:31] <Magic-Fx> 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9
[07:31] <fudgey> after installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?
[07:31] <SolidSource> ok, I got a question of my own...my mplayer plugin in firefox will only download the clip to 99% and stop, but then I "right click >> play" it doesn't play it though finishes downloading it. anyone hit that problem?
[07:31] <Hudson> Anyone ever had the Nvidia binary drivers just crap out on them? I booted up just now and X would not start. no settings were changed between my last reboot and this one.
[07:31] <Magic-Fx> that what u wanted? im not actually sure... its just a standard 10/100 ethernet card.
[07:31] <fudgey> solidsource my problem is worst .. I cant play anything with my mplayer
[07:31] <user____> dfdfdf
[07:32] <SolidSource> fudgey: I can't either..only download the clip and save it, then play it in kaffeine
[07:32] <fudgey> try vlc
[07:32] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Thank you, and give me a minute to see what I can find with the Google.
[07:32] <SolidSource> fudgey: though earlier mplayer wasn't even being recognized
[07:33] <fudgey> =/
[07:33] <Magic-Fx> thnx caleb
[07:33] <fudgey> solidsource my problem is worst .. I cant play anything with my mplayer
[07:33] <fudgey> ops wrong one
[07:33] <fudgey> lol
[07:33] <fudgey> after installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?
[07:33] <LL_Hakaisou> shoot
[07:33] <LL_Hakaisou> kaffeine won't start
[07:33] <SolidSource> fudgey: yes do
[07:33] <fudgey> okie
[07:34] <SolidSource> god I need to stop asking questions and then solving them myself
[07:34] <LL_Hakaisou> anyone have knowledge in how to get a program to start?
[07:34] <bh_> how's kde4 development going ?
[07:34] <LL_Hakaisou> i am trying to start kaffine, but when i do, the icon bounces for a while, then stops and nothing happens
[07:34] <fudgey> thanks
[07:34] <fudgey> bye
[07:35] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: that happens every now and then, just need to try opening it again
[07:35] <caleb> Magic-Fx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2196865
[07:36] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: if that doesn't work "ctrl+esc" search for "kaffeine" kill all the kaffeine processes, then try opening kaffeine again
[07:36] <caleb> Magic-Fx: There's a thread that shows a similar issue with earlier versions of Ubuntu, so that may help some. I'm also going to check Launchpad for anything related, as well.
[07:37] <Magic-Fx> caleb: awesome, thanks.
[07:37] <Magic-Fx> see, the only problem is... i can't load the page
[07:39] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Do you have any other browsers installed?
[07:39] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Also, which version of Kubuntu?
[07:39] <Magic-Fx> 6.10 and not aside from the default browser that comes with it
[07:39] <Magic-Fx> i forget the name.
[07:40] <SolidSource> konqueror
[07:40] <Magic-Fx> yeah thats the one
[07:40] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Does Konqueror work when Firefox doesn't?
[07:40] <Magic-Fx> yes
[07:41] <caleb> That sounds like a Firefox bug, to me.
[07:41] <SolidSource> magic-fx: you using AMD64?
[07:41] <Jucato> wow! konqueror works and firefox doesn't? yay
[07:41] <caleb> I think it has something to do with the default DHCP timeout with FF as opposed to Konqueror, because I've noticed this as well, with Dapper, Edgy and Feisty.
[07:42] <Magic-Fx> SolidSource: are u talking about my cpu or something else?
[07:42] <SolidSource> magic-fx: yes, 64bit 32bit?
[07:42] <Magic-Fx> 32bit
[07:42] <Magic-Fx> duron 1200, 512mb ddr
[07:42] <SolidSource> hmm...that is odd
[07:43] <Magic-Fx> i've used windows for years... recently i got a virus and had to do a format/reinstall and a friend came over with a copy of kubuntu so i installed it
[07:43] <Magic-Fx> im very limited with my linux knowledge (have only used shell accounts in the past) so im not 100% with it
[07:43] <Magic-Fx> but so far im VERY impressed and intend to keep using kubuntu.
[07:44] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Well, I'm glad you're happy, and I think I may have a solution..
[07:44] <Magic-Fx> i like the sound of that
[07:44] <SolidSource> magic-fx: it must be a firefox issue...could try www.getswiftfox.com since it installs a littel differently than adept installs firefox
[07:45] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Happy with Kubuntu, that is... And I think the problem is in the standard timeout for Firefox.. Let me look up how to change it, to see what happens.
[07:45] <SolidSource> it should be in about:config
[07:46] <Magic-Fx> ok thanks caleb
[07:46] <Absorto> hellow! please help me! I've run: xhost + ; DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 xlogo and I get Error: can't open display 127.0.0.1:0.0
[07:46] <Absorto> I also tried the hostname, and other IP addresses configured in this host. I don't understand what's going on. however if I try DISPLAY=:0.0 xlogo does run
[07:46] <Magic-Fx> does anyone know how i make my computer viewable through the network? I can see other computers (running windows) but they are unable to see me
[07:47] <Viesta> #Jakarta
[07:47] <caleb> Magic-Fx: As far as that goes, I think you have to install the samba package3
[07:47] <SolidSource> magic-FX: could be a problem with the windows machine firewall...also need samba installed
[07:47] <Magic-Fx> oh sweet as i don't have that installed, i'll do it now.
[07:48] <caleb> Magic-Fx: And I'd try changing the network.http.keep-alive.timeout setting in Firefox's about:config
[07:48] <Magic-Fx> how do i get to that caleb?
[07:48] <caleb> I think that'll work, but I normally don't use FF unless it won't open in Konqueror properly, so...
[07:49] <SolidSource> lol I am the opposite....can't do in konqueror what I can do in firefox...
[07:49] <norbert> Are there people with Feisty + mdadm + boot problems? I'm getting lots of wierd issues (that I'm having trouble isolating) and there seem to be similar unsolved problems on the forums - but I don't see any official bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs
[07:50] <caleb> Magic-Fx: type "about:config" into the address bar of Firefox when you open it. Then search for the line I gave you. After that, you'll double-click the number on the far-right and change that setting to something larger. I'd try 400 or 500, myself.
[07:51] <SolidSource> off topic announcement: Transformers is nearing release!!! only 4 months to go
[07:52] <Magic-Fx> ok ive changed it to 450, in the middle of ur suggestions :D
[07:52] <crackhead> question: what should i do when adept sort of freezes during "preparing" stage of isntallation, after it's downloaded all the files??
[07:52] <Jucato> crackhead: what are you trying to install (I think I asked this already earlier)
[07:52] <caleb> Now see if it works for you. If it doesn't, I'll see if I can come up with something else.
[07:52] <xine> hai all
[07:53] <SolidSource> crakhead: click "show details"
[07:53] <crackhead> im installing a whole list of things
[07:53] <crackhead> right now? jre
[07:53] <Jucato> SolidSource: offtopic reply: yay!
[07:53] <Jucato> crackhead: uh oh...
[07:53] <Jucato> !java | crackhead
[07:53] <ubotu> crackhead: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:53] <SolidSource> crackhead: you can't install java in adept
[07:53] <Jucato> crackhead: read the last sentence
[07:53] <crackhead> great, wish i had known beforehand
[07:54] <crackhead> so how do i cancel out adept, and can i cancel that particular install but still get the others, which have already dl'd?
[07:54] <Hudson> Jucato I think java 6 is available now
[07:54] <SolidSource> crackhead: you may need to do a "sudo dpkg --configure -a" first
[07:54] <Jucato> Hudson: yes. give me a few secs
[07:54] <Jucato> SolidSource: (tell him to close Adept first)
[07:54] <Hudson> ubuntu guide has the updated install instructions
[07:54] <SolidSource> crackhead; also yes,,,java6 instead
[07:54] <Magic-Fx> I will be back; Need to restart to change something in kernel.
[07:54] <Hudson> for JRE and Mozilla plugin
[07:55] <SolidSource> crackhead: close adept before running that command
[07:55] <colorboy> crackhead: use shell> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[07:55] <SolidSource> jucato there you go  :-D
[07:55] <Jucato> :P
[07:55] <SolidSource> ok recap
[07:55] <SolidSource> close adept
[07:55] <Jucato> Hudson: read the 2nd to the last sentence of the Java factoid
[07:56] <SolidSource> run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:56] <colorboy> otherwise reboot then you sure you are closed :-))
[07:56] <SolidSource> run "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"
[07:57] <colorboy> enable multiverse and universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <SolidSource> lol...well if you want to do that sure
[07:58] <LL_Hakaisou> !WoW
[07:58] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:58] <Hudson> Jucato wtf is the java factoid? :)
[07:59] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: lol have fun with that...though I have it running flawlessly
[07:59] <Jucato> !java | Hudson
[07:59] <ubotu> Hudson: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:59] <Jucato> Hudson: this ^^^^
[08:01] <SolidSource> stupid www.imdb.com trailors...keeps causing mplayer to crash firefox
[08:01] <Hudson> Jucato so what does that mean exactly? java works on my system.
 Jucato I think java 6 is available now <---
[08:02] <Hudson> o
[08:02] <colorsoundboy> runescape is too slow with java on my machine so it don't work :|
[08:02] <SolidSource> lol
[08:02] <Hudson> I always thought those factoids were a way for ppl here to tell noobs to STFU
[08:02] <Hudson> so I never really read them
[08:02] <Hudson> :\
[08:03] <SolidSource> umm...no
[08:03] <Jucato> that's what you get. so RTFF (Read The Free Factoid) :D
[08:03] <SolidSource> just tells how to install stuff...so we don't have to go into details in the chat
[08:03] <Jucato> Hudson: actually the factoids are there to help save lots of typing and bookmarks
[08:03] <Hudson> I realize that now.
[08:04] <MarkC> and tell people to stfu.
[08:04] <MarkC> !stfu
[08:04] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:04] <SolidSource> you know by the time they get 64bit OS working to the same scale as 32bit OS....they will have 128bit
[08:04] <Hudson> lol see what I mean :)
[08:05] <orient2000> what is a comment to make a directory?
[08:05] <Hudson> mkdir
[08:05] <SolidSource> "mkdir"
[08:05] <orient2000> thks
[08:05] <Hudson> <3
[08:05] <Jucato> mkdir (in case you still didn't see :D)
[08:06] <SolidSource> ok, now all we need is stdin's "mkdir"
[08:06] <orient2000> I got permission denied
[08:06] <Hudson> where are you trying to make a dir?
[08:06] <MarkC> sudo mkdir :)
[08:06] <MarkC> /sys/ ?
[08:06] <Hudson> sudo mkdir then
[08:06] <stdin> huh, what?
[08:06] <orient2000> "/usr/share"
[08:06] <SolidSource> lol
[08:07] <Hudson> :)
[08:07] <Jucato> orient2000: why are you making a folder in /usr/share?
[08:08] <orient2000> I try to make install
[08:08] <Jucato> !compile
[08:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:08] <Jucato> you don't manually add directories to root owned directories unless you need to (which most of the time , you don't)
[08:08] <orient2000> it does not want to create directory so I try to do it myself first
[08:09] <orient2000> yes compile
[08:09] <Jucato> why and when doesn't it want to create a directory? did you use "sudo make install"?
[08:09] <SolidSource> orient2000: thats because its "sudo make" "sudo make install"
[08:09] <orient2000> OK
[08:09] <MarkC> jucato's fast.
[08:09] <Jucato> SolidSource: actually, "make" only
[08:09] <MarkC> i give... :)
[08:10] <Jucato> "./configure", "make", "sudo make install"
[08:10] <SolidSource> Jucato: depends, I've had some that "make" alone didn't want to work
[08:10] <Jucato> orient2000: that wiki page gives detailed instructions/guide on how to compile
[08:10] <Jucato> SolidSource: that would be very very strange... and probably a problem w/ either the source code or thedirectory
[08:11] <SolidSource> Jucato: maybe, but I got it working...though uninstalled it almost right after
[08:11] <orient2000> It worked thenks I am installing rubyripper
[08:12] <SolidSource> Jucato: me too..but the stupid source didn't want to work otherwise
[08:12] <Jucato> stupid source coders... :P
[08:13] <Magic-Fx> Hey... the firefox issue appears to be fixed thanks guys.
[08:13] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Glad we could help.
[08:13] <SolidSource> good work team!
[08:13] <Magic-Fx> hrm... seems i spoke too soon
[08:14] <SolidSource> lol
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> it works after i first reboot fine... but now its playing up again
[08:14] <caleb> Magic-Fx: That's really odd...
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> really really odd.
[08:14] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Are you sure it's not a problem with the site you're trying to access?
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> yeah im positive
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> the site is google.co.nz
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> which is the fastest webserver in new zealand
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> and i can access it fine from windows using firefox.
[08:15] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Try Konqueror and see what happens.
[08:15] <SolidSource> magic-fx: all I have to say is....you lucky lucky man....living in NZ
[08:16] <caleb> SolidSource: I agree with you. Anywhere could beat Tennessee, though...
[08:16] <SolidSource> caleb: oh come on...rock and roll capital of the world there
[08:16] <Magic-Fx> konq loads the page fine
[08:17] <SolidSource> caleb: it beats Utah...what we got? snow? great I can freeze my butt even easier
[08:17] <caleb> SolidSource: Touche.
[08:17] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Have you checked for an updated version of Firefox, yet?
[08:17] <Magic-Fx> SolidSource: your welcome to move to nz, i'll even put u up a place to stay if u fix my kubuntu lol
[08:17] <Magic-Fx> caleb: i've only just downloaded it mate
[08:18] <SolidSource> magic-fx: WOOHOO!
[08:19] <Magic-Fx> right; i've installed samba can someone help me with file sharing and shit please?
[08:19] <SolidSource> magic-fx: the funny thing is, I am actually looking at Australia and NZ as part of my post-graduation job search
[08:19] <reldruh> Magic-Fx: I can try, I've made a ton of mistakes with samba :-)
[08:19] <faraz> where is the repositories file located??
[08:20] <caleb> Magic-Fx: It should work, if you try to access your machine from Windows.. You'll have to login, but I think it'll work. Or, it will, based on my home network.
[08:20] <reldruh> faraz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <caleb> faraz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <faraz> thanks
[08:20] <SolidSource> magic-fx caleb: he still needs to configure first
[08:21] <SolidSource> magic-fx: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#samba_server        will get you started
[08:21] <caleb> SolidSource: I could've sworn it worked fine when I installed it on my desktop, but it's been so long that I really can't remember.
[08:21] <SolidSource> caleb: I've always had to do some configurations first
[08:23] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[08:23] <LL_Hakaisou> a nice fresh reboot
[08:23] <Magic-Fx> SolidSource: www.otago.ac.nz
[08:24] <SolidSource> magic-fx: that where you go?
[08:25] <margis> hello
[08:25] <margis> i have a problem with a tv tuner.....can anyone help?
[08:25] <margis> i cant  find  a way to install it
[08:26] <SolidSource> not I, though I shall be listening cause I'm thinking of getting one
[08:26] <margis> it is  the pctv 330e
[08:26] <reldruh> I just ordered one yesterday, but I can't help you out either :-(
[08:26] <margis> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm
[08:26] <margis> i have this
[08:27] <SolidSource> well thats an interesting little thing
[08:27] <margis> can anyone  suggest me a programm to watch tv....(i will need it  when i install it
[08:27] <margis> it is nice  tuner
[08:28] <reldruh> margis: mythtv?
[08:28] <margis> but  i can use it  only with windows
[08:28] <reldruh> margis: are you sure there's a linux driver for it?
[08:28] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then...
[08:28] <margis> mythtv ,,,,,yes,..but i  cant  install it
[08:28] <LL_Hakaisou> i installed wine, but there is no .wine folder in my home directory
[08:28] <reldruh> margis: can't install myth or the tuner?
[08:28] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: you need to run wine at least 1 time first
[08:29] <LL_Hakaisou> i have
[08:29] <LL_Hakaisou> just type in wine, right?
[08:29] <LL_Hakaisou> aha
[08:30] <LL_Hakaisou> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/(username omitted)/.wine'
[08:31] <MarkC> LL_Hakaisou: winecfg ?
[08:31] <john> Would anyone know why I am unable to modify my master volume using the alsa driver but am able to modify my PCM volume.
[08:32] <john> My volume is soooo low.
[08:32] <margis> i cant  install  both of them
[08:33] <LL_Hakaisou> i think my copy of wine is messed up
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> nothing involving the wine command is working
[08:34] <reldruh> margis: I'd worry about the tuner first. If you can't get that working there's no point in installing mythtv. Find out if there's a driver for it. The mythtv wiki might be helpful
[08:34] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: you mean in run command "wine" doesn't do anything?
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> it just displays the help dialog
[08:35] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: try in konsole "wine-cfg
[08:35] <SolidSource> without quote
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> command not found
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> do you mean winecfg?
[08:35] <SolidSource> margis: try kdetv
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> woah...
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> i just got like, 15 error messages in the Konsole
[08:36] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: ok...so no dash
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> that's what threw all the messages at me
[08:36] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: are the errors about dependcies:
[08:36] <SolidSource> ?
[08:37] <LL_Hakaisou> i think...
[08:37] <professor> hi
[08:37] <LL_Hakaisou> i dunno
[08:37] <reldruh> hi professor
[08:37] <seanOne> sudo wine-cfg
[08:37] <LL_Hakaisou> seanOne: same result
[08:38] <seanOne> balls
[08:38] <LL_Hakaisou> the problem is that wine never setup a /.wine/ directory when i installed it for some reason
[08:38] <LL_Hakaisou> i think
[08:38] <LL_Hakaisou> i think i need to uninstall it then reinstall it
[08:41] <crackhead> when adept is hanging on preparing to install jre (because jre cant be installed with adept), what do i do to cancel or skip the jre install there and continue with the rest? it already downloaded everything, but did not install anything..
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <SolidSource> crackhead: just exit adept
[08:42] <SolidSource> crackhead: and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and that should install it all
[08:42] <john> Anyone have any ideas why alsamixer wont let me adjust Master Volume.
[08:42] <john> It just says 00 for its value.
[08:42] <john> Im unable to increase it.
[08:43] <SolidSource> crackhead: if not, install java in konsole, then go back into adept for the rest...you won't have to wait for download
[08:43] <crackhead> will it have stored the list of files i was in the midst of installing?
[08:44] <SolidSource> you will have to reselect them
[08:44] <crackhead> i just tried to do the dpkg, hit return. it just seeemd to complete in a split second and went to a fresh user prompt.
[08:44] <crackhead> it didnt install everything, im sure.
[08:44] <crackhead> do you think a thread of adept is still running somewhere? i just went to open adept again, and it presented the sudo login, but then didn't load up afterwards.
[08:45] <SolidSource> crackhead: stay out of adept and in konsole, "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"
[08:45] <crackhead> im not saying just for java. how do i get back into adept anyway? i just tried, and it didnt load.
[08:46] <SolidSource> crackhead: just try again
[08:46] <SolidSource> crackhead: that such thing happens from time to time
[08:46] <crackhead> i see i have several adept maanger processes running in kde sys guard. im going to kill 'em, and then restart the adept. that should work, right?
[08:47] <SolidSource> crackhead: yes it will...though you will have to start ksysgaurd with "kdesu ksysguard"
[08:47] <crackhead> from konsole?
[08:47] <SolidSource> can or "alt+F2"
[08:48] <SolidSource> for run command
[08:48] <mefisto__> has anyone here had any luck using K9copy?
[08:48] <crackhead> bam, worked like magic, baby. ha
[08:48] <reldruh> mefisto__: yes, I love it
[08:48] <SolidSource> mefisto__: I use it regularly
[08:49] <reldruh> does anybody know when the new version will get into the repos? I've had trouble compiling it on my own
[08:49] <SolidSource> reldruh: compiling what?
[08:50] <reldruh> SolidSource: the latest version of k9copy
[08:50] <reldruh> it was updated to 1.1.0 or something, but the version in the repos is something below that, even in the feisty one
[08:50] <mefisto__> k9copy users: I get error msg "an error occured while running DVDAuthor". do you ever get that?
[08:51] <SolidSource> mefisto__: nope neevr seen it, you have libdvd* all installed?
[08:51] <mefisto__> yes
[08:51] <reldruh> mefisto__: I've never gotten that, but this is a good example of where the newer version would be nice. The changelog for 1.1.0 is '- backup without menus, without dvdauthor'
[08:52] <john> Any ideas..
[08:52] <john> Unable to modify master volume using alsa driver.
[08:52] <john> Master volume just says 00
[08:52] <john> when viewed via alsamixer
[08:52] <mefisto__> reldruh: the version I have (from repos) IS 1.1.0
[08:53] <Ayabara2> anyone using krusader? I'm looking for a package of 1.8 beta, but I can't find one for kubuntu
[08:53] <reldruh> mefisto__: is it a beta?
[08:53] <SolidSource> reldruh: this thread has a repo that might have it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108069
[08:53] <jake> hi everybody im new to kubuntu somebody please help
[08:53] <reldruh> jake: what's the problem?
[08:54] <jake> how do i install software at this os?
[08:54] <SolidSource> reldruh: though it says breezy in it...they might have a edgy section
[08:54] <SolidSource> reldruh: which they do...and it has 1.1 in it
[08:55] <reldruh> jake: depends on what you're trying to install. For most stuff, if you open up adept (press alt+space and start typing adept) you can search for programs. When you find one you want, right click on it and click 'Request Install'
[08:55] <reldruh> jake: when you've requested everything you want, hit hte apply changes button at the top
[08:55] <SolidSource> jake: don't install java in it though!!
[08:56] <jake> thanx i'll try rbr
[08:56] <jake> btw can you install .exe files?
[08:56] <reldruh> jake: no, those are windows specific. They won't work on linux. But you don't need them, there's a ton of great software in adept
[08:57] <jake> because i really need my cakewalk program
[08:57] <reldruh> SolidSource: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+package/k9copy. They all look like betas of the 1.1 release. The final one would be nice. I think the lack of dvdauthor came about between the last beta and the release
[08:57] <reldruh> jake: what does it do? Chances are good there's an equivelant for linux
[08:58] <jake> midi editing software
[08:58] <SolidSource> reldruh: well...thought 1.1 was still in beta....I don't know then
[08:58] <reldruh> SolidSource: 1.1's definitely been released. Check kde-apps.org
[08:59] <SolidSource> reldruh: just looked at its main site
[08:59] <reldruh> does anybody here use rosegarden? jake, rosegarden is a very high quality audio editing program for linux; it will probably fill your needs. I don' tknow much about it, though
[09:00] <jake> ok thanx a lot reldruh, one more question, how bout games can i install my age of empire 2?
[09:01] <crackhead> question: where does wget put any downloaded package? does it store it only in some temp file/folder that gets erased after a while?
[09:01] <reldruh> jake: possibly with wine (it's a program that lets you run some windows programs on linux) or cedega (a game oriented version of wine)
[09:01] <SolidSource> jake: through WINE or crossover linux, you possibly could
[09:01] <LL_Hakaisou> either one costs money though
[09:02] <SolidSource> crackhead: wget saves the file in whatever directary you are currently in under konsole
[09:02] <cj_sze> :)))
[09:02] <SolidSource> crackhead: unless specified otherwise
[09:02] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: WINE is free. Crossover isn't..
[09:02] <jake> thank you very much guys brb
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> that's what i ment caleb
[09:02] <adydas> beryl is easy
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> i was referring to Cedega and Crossover
[09:02] <daft_> hey, noob question but how do I configure my autostart in KDE?
[09:02] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: Oh. Nevermind.
[09:03] <SolidSource> Crossover and cedega aren't free, but they make things much easier than messing with wine
[09:03] <adydas> daft_: adydas@adydas:~/.kde/Autostart
[09:03] <daft_> thanks sir
[09:03] <reldruh> what is autostart?
[09:03] <adydas> err /home/user/.kde/Autostart
[09:03] <daft_> ok
[09:04] <adydas> reldruh: AUto start programs on boot
[09:04] <reldruh> mmm, that sounds useful
[09:04] <daft_> ok, and what do i do with the folder
[09:04] <adydas> you put the program(s) via ln -s into there
[09:04] <daft_> ahh
[09:04] <daft_> ta
[09:05] <adydas> so ln -s /etc/apache/apache.sh as a bad eg
[09:05] <reldruh> all right, g'night everybody
[09:05] <hyper__ch> or one could save the session and restart the session upon reboot
[09:06] <hyper__ch> adydas: apache should be started from the init
[09:06] <adydas> i said a BAD eg
[09:06] <adydas> it was the only thing i could think of
[09:06] <jake> how can i install tar.gz files?
[09:06] <caleb> Dumb question, but is there a way I can switch off the second processor core on my Core Duo without rebooting and going into the BIOS?
[09:07] <adydas> jake:  you dont isntall them, you can unzip with tar -zxvf filename.gz
[09:07] <adydas> better eg for Autostart then, lrwxrwxrwx 1 adydas adydas 22 2007-03-02 11:07 beryl-manager -> /usr/bin/beryl-m
[09:07] <caleb> jake: Then cd into the directory, and if it's a binary, run it. If not, ./configure, make, make install
[09:07] <SolidSource> jake: here this site will explain most of your initial questions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:08] <Jucato> !compile | jake
[09:08] <ubotu> jake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:08] <Jucato> jake: what is that .tar.gz? what are you trying to install?
[09:08] <jake> wine
[09:08] <Jucato> wine is in the repos jake...
[09:08] <SolidSource> jake: adept can install that
[09:08] <adydas> jake: apt-get install wine
[09:08] <Jucato> and it's one of the hardest things to compile
[09:09] <Jucato> !info wine
[09:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[09:09] <hyper__ch> jake: and you find current wine versions in the winehq repos
[09:09] <Jucato> !info wine edgy-backports
[09:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.30-0ubuntu2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 9355 kB, installed size 43704 kB
[09:09] <jake> thanx
[09:09] <Jucato> hyper__ch: latest is 0.9.31. Edgy has 0.9.30
[09:09] <Evil_DuDe> is there a great difference between them ?
[09:10] <hyper__ch> Jucato: :) well, using the repos from budgetdedicated
[09:10] <Jucato> Evil_DuDe: beside the ubuntu version being 1 release late?
[09:10] <Evil_DuDe> yeah
[09:11] <Jucato> the ubuntu version has been built against ubuntu and packaged by the official Ubuntu packagers (MOTU's)
[09:11] <hyper__ch> Evil_DuDe: have a look at the version history of it
[09:11] <Evil_DuDe> ok
[09:11] <Evil_DuDe> thank you
[09:13] <SolidSource> speaking of SSH, has anyone had problems with running KDM through SSH and upon logout, the host computer crash?
[09:13] <caleb> Always make sure you're in the right machine when checking a sources.list and if it looks like the wrong version, don't do a "find and replace" and save before looking...
[09:13] <hyper__ch> Evil_DuDe: for the diffs:  http://www.winehq.com/?announce=latest
[09:14] <Evil_DuDe> hey thanks
[09:14] <caleb> SolidSource: No, I haven't tried that, but I can test to se what happens.
[09:14] <SolidSource> caleb: well its in correlation with XMDC (or whatever it is)
[09:15] <daft_> thanks for your help adydas
[09:15] <daft_> bye all
[09:16] <caleb> SolidSource: Ah... I usually haven't any reason to run remote X apps, except for when I want to control my desktop's Amarok setup via the notebook...
[09:17] <caleb> Too lazy to hook the notebook up to the good speakers, when I can ssh into the machine that has the good stuff...
[09:17] <SolidSource> caleb: I do, cause I like to be able to monitor my torrents or what ever else I left it doing
[09:18] <SolidSource> caleb: such as...dist-upgrade...cause my connection sucks and ithat takes forever
[09:18] <caleb> SolidSource: I forgot about that.. Plus, it's nice for escaping proxy servers that block esr's website...
[09:18] <SolidSource> caleb: yep that too
[09:19] <yapyccky> hello. who can help me to mount an sd memory card?
[09:19] <caleb> yapyccky: What card reader do you have?
[09:19] <SolidSource> it should do it automatically just like a USB drive
[09:19] <yapyccky> 02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
[09:20] <yapyccky> 02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
[09:20] <yapyccky> thats what i get from lspci
[09:20] <SolidSource> internal or external ?
[09:20] <caleb> SolidSource: The TI reader built-in to my laptop doesn't exactly like me very well...
[09:20] <yapyccky> internal
[09:20] <caleb> yapyccky: Does it show any changes in dmesg when you insert/remove a card?
[09:20] <SolidSource> caleb: ok, you help cause I have never had problems with any internal card readers
[09:21] <yapyccky> yes caleb
[09:21] <yapyccky>  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17264035.160000]  cs: memory probe 0xfe800000-0xfeafffff: excluding 0xfe800000-0xfe82ffff 0xfead0000-0xfeafffff
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17264035.160000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265007.644000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265013.852000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265013.852000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265023.948000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[09:21] <caleb> yapyccky: It's seeing it as a PC Card for some reason.. Weird..
[09:21] <yapyccky> what should i do?...
[09:22] <caleb> yapyccky: Wait a sec... That was the Cardbus you detected... Can you send me the entire dmesg output as a plain-text file?
[09:23] <pirothezero> anyone know any good sources to read for RandR extensions?
[09:23] <pirothezero> like specs or something
[09:23] <caleb> yapyccky: And the lspci -nv output, as well. Just do both, and use Konsole's "Save History As" function.
[09:24] <caleb> Er, lspci -v
[09:24] <yapyccky> im sending u dmesg.txt
[09:26] <yapyccky> caleb, do u get my files?
[09:26] <caleb> No, I'm not getting them.
[09:28] <yapyccky> caleb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8185/
[09:29] <caleb> So the SD reader is a Cardbus card, right?
[09:29] <yapyccky> it seems so
[09:29] <yapyccky> 02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 1894
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 177
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Memory at fe801000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Bus: primary=02, secondary=04, subordinate=07, sec-latency=176
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Memory window 0: 36000000-37fff000 (prefetchable)
[09:29] <caleb> yapyccky: Can you do an lspci -v for me, as well?
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Memory window 1: 38000000-39fff000
[09:29] <yapyccky>         I/O window 0: 0000cc00-0000ccff
[09:29] <yapyccky>         I/O window 1: 00001000-000010ff
[09:29] <yapyccky>         16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
[09:29] <yapyccky> ok, wait
[09:30] <yapyccky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8186/
[09:31] <yapyccky> here it is
[09:31] <SolidSource> off topic: this is going to be one great B-day.... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comes out on my B-day
[09:31] <SolidSource> gonna have to get wasted and go see it
[09:31] <LL_Hakaisou> it's gonna suck
[09:32] <LL_Hakaisou> i loved the ninja turtles, and it pains me to see what they are doing to it
[09:32] <SolidSource> why say that?
[09:32] <LL_Hakaisou> you seen the trailer?
[09:32] <SolidSource> yeah
[09:32] <LL_Hakaisou> i dunno, something about it doesn't sit right with me
[09:33] <SolidSource> what just cause theres no Shredder? that movie has been done
[09:33] <yapyccky> caleb, what do u think?
[09:34] <SolidSource> though, its possible they are loosing touch with the turtles original personalities
[09:35] <Tido> anyone here installed ktorrent 2.1?
[09:35] <SolidSource> nope, azureus is better so use it
[09:35] <SolidSource> so I*
[09:35] <fignew> SolidSource: better at using your ram and CPU
[09:36] <Tido> az has a lot of overhead for a bt client >.>
[09:36] <fignew> Tido: yes, I do
[09:36] <Tido> (though az is fantastic, just java)
[09:36] <SolidSource> but it does the best job, torrents get done faster in it
[09:36] <fignew> I would run utorrent under wine before I run azureus
[09:37] <Tido> well, of course kubuntu comes with ktorrent 2.0x, but it really is slow
[09:37] <SolidSource> well I don't notice any performance problems...but I have a pretty damn good machine
[09:37] <Tido> and I know about port forwards, etc
[09:37] <Tido> I'm doing wine+utorrent atm and it is twice as fast as ktorrent 2.0x
[09:37] <Tido> the problem is, I'm running wine....with utorrent
[09:37] <Tido> is 2.1 faster?
[09:38] <fignew> It's hard for me to tell
[09:38] <fignew> cause I'm on a 100mbit connection, so the limit is always the swarm of users on the torrent
[09:38] <Tido> where do you live?
[09:39] <fignew> College dorm :)
[09:39] <Tido> I meant geographically
[09:39] <caleb> yapyccky: Have you tried "sudo modprobe sd_mod" and "sudo modprobe scsi_mod"
[09:39] <fignew> Georgia
[09:39] <SolidSource> thats a shared T1 or T3 line (5-30Mbs max)
[09:39] <Tido> must be ga tech then
[09:39] <fignew> yep :)
[09:39] <yapyccky> now i di
[09:40] <Tido> normally I'd agree with you SolidSource, but GA Tech has god's internet
[09:40] <Tido> anyways, is 2.1 in a package?
[09:40] <yapyccky> now?
[09:40] <fignew> yes
[09:40] <fignew> I got it from the official ktorrent site
[09:41] <Tido> k, I'll try that, thanks
[09:41] <caleb> yapyccky: Try it, and see what happens, now. I'm still looking through the Ubuntu forums, though.
[09:41] <yapyccky> caleb, nothing happend...
[09:41] <fignew> Tido, now that I think about it though, sometimes it does run slow
[09:42] <fignew> It'll connect to 8-10 hosts, and it just sits on them
[09:42] <fignew> even if they're slow
[09:42] <caleb> yapyccky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282179
[09:42] <fignew> I guess I've only had that problem on the wifi
[09:43] <fignew> lol, Tido, you're from georgia? #ubuntu-georgia ;)
[09:43] <caleb> yapyccky: There's some good information if you don't mind wading through it. However, since it's a Ricoh card reader, I'm unsure as to whether it'll work or not, because I've seen information saying that they don't work under Ubuntu.
[09:43] <yapyccky> ok....thx caleb.
[09:44] <caleb> yapyccky: No problem. I've got to get my internal reader working as well, so it's not like it's distracting me from what I was already doing.
[09:45] <yapyccky> thx
[09:46] <caleb> Also, you may wnat to install the ivman package.
[09:47] <caleb> I hate to leave good company, but it's almost 3 AM and I've got three essays due at 8 AM, so I'll be going back to writing.
[09:48] <fignew> caleb: gee, you're just like me when it comes to doing work :P
[09:49] <caleb> fignew: Well, when it's boring work, it gets pushed back. Especially when everyone and their cat has my cell number and makes full use of it whenever there's a computer problem anywhere in my particular town...
[09:50] <eXistenZ> Hello guys, is there a firefox-kde integration patch or something of that kind?
[09:51] <caleb> System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts
[09:51] <Jucato> eXistenZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE
[09:51] <eXistenZ> Jucato, Thanks a million!
[09:52] <Jucato> eXistenZ: it's a bit "superficial" though... in most cases...
[09:52] <eXistenZ> Jucato, I mean the "Open file" option.
[09:52] <eXistenZ> It just doesn't open the file =/
[09:53] <Jucato> from the Download manager?
[09:53] <Jucato> Firefox's download manager, I mean?
[09:53] <eXistenZ> yes.
[09:53] <Jucato> not really sure though. sorry
[09:54] <SolidSource> I think it is known, cause I haven't seen it work outside of windows
[09:55] <pirothezero> can someone explain to me briefly what RandR is ?
[09:55] <adydas> Rest and relaxation??
[09:55] <SolidSource> lol
[09:55] <caleb> SolidSource: It works under Mac OS X, as well. *points at the old PowerBook and the Mac mini while whistling innocently*
[09:55] <adydas> :P
[09:56] <pirothezero> lol adydas
[09:56] <SolidSource> caleb: ok ok...outside of the greedy corporate OSs
[09:56] <Jucato> adydas: that's R & R :P
[09:56] <adydas> everyone needs some rnr
[09:57] <Jucato> pirothezero: X Resize and Rotate extension: http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/randr/
[09:57] <caleb> So, anyone other than me try the latest KDE4 release?
[09:57] <SolidSource> not messing with it till its complete
[09:58] <Jucato> release?
[09:58] <Jucato> that's KDE 3.80.x "developers'" snapshots.
[09:58] <pirothezero> thx!
[09:58] <Jucato> pirothezero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randr
[09:58] <Jucato> don't you just love Google and Wikipedia? :D
[09:58] <pirothezero> having one hell of a time trying to run beryl with portrait mode using the rotate command
[09:59] <pirothezero> is xrandr the same thing?
[09:59] <Erunno> caleb: I compiled parts of it in the last few days. Nothing earth-shattering so far.
[09:59] <Jucato> tablet pc? O.o
[09:59] <pirothezero> neg dual dell monitors
[09:59] <Jucato> ooh....
[09:59] <pirothezero> that can rotate 90 degrees, and if i uncomment "Rotate" "True" it works and passes the RandR test
[10:00] <Jucato> KDE4 stuff so far are under-the-hood changes.
[10:00] <pirothezero> but with Rotate in there it fails back to the failsafe so I want to learn more about RandR
[10:00] <Erunno> I'm close to buying a new notebook. Does anyone know if dual monitor support work with the recent free/binary ATI drivers ?
[10:00] <Jucato> pirothezero: have you used krandrtray?
[10:00] <pirothezero> no
[10:00] <Jucato> :D
[10:00] <pirothezero> that like on the fly type app
[10:00] <pirothezero> ?
[10:00] <caleb> Jucato: Quite true. However, the few bits of UI mods they've thrown out are pretty nice...
[10:02] <SolidSource> no extreme changes in GUI can truly be made until holigraphic projectors are created
[10:03] <pirothezero> not in apt-get it looks like
[10:03] <Erunno> Direct feed to the brain ftw.
[10:03] <pirothezero> will have to find krandrtray elsewhere
[10:03] <soulfree> can i get help?
[10:03] <Jucato> pirothezero: er.. installed by default :)
[10:04] <Jucato> pirothezero: that's the command to run it. Alt+F2, krandrtray
[10:04] <pirothezero> cant find it in system desktop applet
[10:04] <pirothezero> oh
[10:04] <pirothezero> word
[10:04] <soulfree> i wanna see divx and wmv files on my kubuntu
[10:04] <soulfree> but i don't  know how to
[10:05] <SolidSource> !w32codecs
[10:05] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:05] <pirothezero> be back in a bit
[10:05] <soulfree> yes! i heard about win32 codecs
[10:07] <milaks> Hi. Since I do not have right ctrl key (I have a mini keyboard), I've mapped both right win-key and menu key (which I do not use) in ~/.Xmodmap to be ctrl. And this works fine in GNOME. In KDE however it depends, it works that way until I for exmaple start to type message in Kopete, in which case both keys are reverted. Dose anynone knows solution to this?
[10:07] <Skuller> !restricted
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <Skuller> !amr
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Skuller> !codecs
[10:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <Skuller> !3gp
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Lynoure> milaks: you could try running you Xmodmap from ~/.kde/Autostart for KDE
[10:09] <Jucato> !botabuse | Skuller
[10:09] <ubotu> Skuller: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:09] <Skuller> Jucato: sorry
[10:10] <milaks> Lynoure: I'm doing that already, and mapping works until I for example start typing message in Kopete, after that they behave like before mapping.
[10:10] <milaks_> Hi. Since I do not have right ctrl key (I have a mini keyboard), I've mapped both right win-key and menu key (which I do not use) in ~/.Xmodmap to be ctrl. And this works fine in GNOME. In KDE however it depends, it works that way until I for exmaple start to type message in Kopete, in which case both keys are reverted. Dose anynone knows solution to this?
[10:11] <Lynoure> milaks: hmm, ok, you only mentioned ~/.Xmodmap so I thought that's the only place where you have your xmodmap
[10:11] <milaks> Lynoure: in Autostart I have "url to application" from which I call xmodpam ~/.Xmodmap
[10:12] <Lynoure> milaks: does it only happen in Kopete or also in other kde apps? If not in all, which ones?
[10:12] <akrus> could someone help me with SSH? :x
[10:12] <akrus> it's started but not working
[10:12] <akrus> what's the problem :)
[10:12] <Lynoure> akrus: Probably, just give more detail.
[10:12] <Lynoure> akrus: ssh out or sshd?
[10:13] <akrus> sshd
[10:13] <milaks> Lynoure: Well I dont know for others, for example I'm using Konversation right now, and it works fine, those keys are still ctrl.
[10:13] <akrus> trying to connect to localhost -> nothing :(
[10:13] <akrus> it worked before
[10:13] <akrus> where should the logs be?
[10:13] <Lynoure> akrus: So, what has changed between?   /var/log/daemon.log, I think
[10:14] <akrus> Lynoure: nothing :)
[10:14] <akrus> daemon.log -> no 'ssh'
[10:14] <Lynoure> akrus: usually when people claim nothing has changed, they are forgetting some things...
[10:15] <akrus> ok, Feb 27 08:38:11 flygroup sshd[5407] : Server listening on :: port 22.
[10:15] <akrus> i did not touch ssh ever
[10:15] <akrus> it worked on feb.27
[10:15] <milaks> Lynoure: any ideas?
[10:15] <Lynoure> akrus: But did you install e.g. a firewall?
[10:15] <akrus> Lynoure: no
[10:15] <akrus> newer kernel only
[10:15] <akrus> :)
[10:15] <soulfree> hmm.. thanks!^^
[10:15] <Lynoure> milaks: no, sorry. I assume you have googled for xmodmap Kopete already?
[10:16] <akrus> feb.28 also working :)
[10:16] <milaks> yea
[10:16] <Lynoure> akrus: no reboots after feb 28th?
[10:16] <akrus> there were
[10:16] <Lynoure> akrus: if there are, did the sshd still start listening after?
[10:16] <apallo> is there a way to play windows streaming video in firefox?
[10:17] <Lynoure> akrus: if not, what if you start it manually?
[10:17] <akrus> Mar  1 19:23:46 flygroup sshd[11296] : Server listening on :: port 22.
[10:17] <akrus> after that - no restarts
[10:17] <akrus> 11296 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:17] <akrus> Lynoure: /etc/init.d/ssh restart? :)
[10:17] <Lynoure> akrus: What happens when you try to connect?
[10:17] <akrus> Lynoure: nothing
[10:17] <akrus> Lynoure: no info in logs & no ssh reply :(
[10:17] <Lynoure> akrus: nothing? no timeout even?
[10:18] <akrus> Lynoure: what's the timeout?
[10:18] <akrus> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out
[10:18] <Lynoure> akrus: that is a timeout.
[10:18] <akrus> yeah
[10:18] <akrus> x_X
[10:18] <Lynoure> What if you telnet to the same port?
[10:18] <akrus> lemme check
[10:18] <akrus> no reply
[10:18] <akrus> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[10:19] <akrus> woo
[10:19] <akrus> woot
[10:19] <akrus> works
[10:19] <akrus> when IP is specified
[10:19] <akrus> (external one)
[10:19] <akrus> but not the local :x
[10:20] <Lynoure> akrus: why do you need to ssh to localhost anyway :)
[10:20] <Magic-Fx> hey guys i got my network working fine, thanks for all the help. I still had issues with firefox so i have just uninstalled it.
[10:20] <akrus> to show kde4 for friend of mine :D
[10:20] <f4ggz0r> hey guys my kubuntu wont start... it just puts me in black screen or console mode root@username-desktop:~#...     wat do i do next ??
[10:20] <Lynoure> akrus: they cannot access your ip instead? Interesting.
[10:21] <akrus> Permission denied, please try again. <-- wtf?
[10:21] <akrus> password is right
[10:21] <akrus> just did passwd
[10:21] <akrus> o_O
[10:21] <f4ggz0r> help :(
[10:21] <akrus> ah
[10:21] <akrus> it looks like it's router xD
[10:21] <akrus> lol yeah
[10:21] <akrus> xD
[10:22] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: does it give any errors in the process? And what has changed since it worked?
[10:23] <akrus> hmmm
[10:23] <f4ggz0r> umm i made a few changes in the bios, nothing big, atleast i didnt think so
[10:23] <akrus> netstat -al does not show ssh
[10:23] <f4ggz0r> no errors
[10:24] <soulfree> thanks...
[10:24] <akrus> tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[10:24] <akrus> tcp6?
[10:24] <akrus> is it ipv6?
[10:24] <soulfree> really thank you
[10:25] <soulfree> and how can i see some divx files on kaffein?
[10:25] <akrus> soulfree: install mplayer with codecs
[10:25] <soulfree> oh...
[10:25] <soulfree> can't operatin on my player?
[10:26] <Jucato> soulfree: divx uses .avi. so libxine-extracodecs will take care of that
[10:26] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: Checked the log for xserver already? anything interesting there?
[10:26] <akrus> hm, i simply installed mplayer so it added the codecs automatically :)
[10:26] <soulfree> jukato: thank you
[10:27] <akrus> Lynoure: any ideas anyway? :)
[10:27] <f4ggz0r> log for xserver? how do i do that ?
[10:27] <soulfree> and now i'll fond it :)
[10:27] <Lynoure> akrus: I thought you just said it was your router causing it.
[10:27] <akrus> Lynoure: nah
[10:27] <naught101> anyone know why the ubuntu version of gparted lags so far behind the standard version?
[10:27] <akrus> Lynoure: just when i used ext.ip i was connected to my router :)
[10:28] <akrus> localhost is not connected anyway~
[10:29] <Lynoure> akrus: localhost is local, on your own computer only. I still do not see how you need if for your friend. If they are already on your system, why do they need to ssh onto it?
[10:29] <akrus> Lynoure: KDE4 is started via SSH
[10:29] <akrus> x_X
[10:29] <akrus> anyway
[10:29] <akrus> the same happens for VirtualBox
[10:29] <akrus> when connecting to 10.0.2.2 -> no reply...
[10:30] <akrus> let's try plain install
[10:31] <akrus> does not work anyway...
[10:31] <Lynoure> 10.0.2.2 is your private ip? 127.0.0.1 is the localhost ip.
[10:32] <akrus> I know
[10:32] <akrus> 10.0.2.2 is used in VirtualBox
[10:32] <akrus> for NAT
[10:32] <akrus> :)
[10:32] <akrus> SolidSource: hey :)
[10:32] <Lynoure> and you changed your kernel?
[10:32] <akrus> Lynoure: likely
[10:32] <akrus> Lynoure: I don't remember :)
[10:32] <Lynoure> Forgot the NAT modules?
[10:33] <f4ggz0r> hey guys my Adept Mgr seems to be not working right, how do i fix it ?
[10:33] <akrus> SolidSource: could you help with SSHd problems? :3
[10:33] <Jucato> how is it not working right f4ggz0r? please be more specific
[10:33] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: logs live on /var/log, so if you get command line, you can poke around there
[10:34] <f4ggz0r> ahh ok thx Lyn
[10:34] <compilerwriter1> speaking of ssh I could use some help there too.
[10:34] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: but if you got to Adept now, I guess your problem got solved
[10:34] <f4ggz0r> Jucato, well it downloads packages ok i guess, but it gives error after i try to install them
[10:35] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: try installing the same package using "sudo apt-get install"
[10:35] <akrus> !openssh-server feisty
[10:35] <akrus> o_O
[10:35] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[10:36] <f4ggz0r> no im not actually back in kubuntu yet, i notice that i do get the initial kubuntu pre-log screen... the word kubuntu with the blue growing line just underneath the word.. then black screen
[10:36] <akrus> !openssh-server edgy
[10:36] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[10:36] <akrus> hmm
[10:36] <Lynoure> akrus: you are on feisty?
[10:36] <akrus> Lynoure: yep
[10:36] <Lynoure> akrus: Why not try on #ubuntu+1 then?
[10:36] <akrus> noone replying here xD
[10:37] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: Did you get your help already?
[10:37] <compilerwriter1> Not really.
[10:37] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: if not, could you repeat what your problem si?
[10:37] <Lynoure> s/si/is
[10:38] <compilerwriter1> I have managed to install ssh, but am behind a router.  I thought I got that all configured, but I still can't seem to putty from a machine that is not on my home network.  I even signed up for a dns forwarding service and have the client for that.
[10:38] <compilerwriter1> I just don't know where things are going afoul.
[10:39] <compilerwriter1> I appears that you are a vi power user Lynoure.
[10:39] <compilerwriter1> s/I/It
[10:39] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: vi power user? What?
[10:40] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: What vi has to do with your problem?
[10:40] <compilerwriter1> vi has nothing to do with my problem.
[10:40] <Magic-Fx> Hey.... Do you guys help with things like BitchX?
[10:40] <compilerwriter1> The substitution string thingy you used reminded me of vi.
[10:40] <Jucato> Lynoure: he's referring to your s/foo/foo1/
[10:41] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: it's a common thing in IRC after a while... whether you use vi or not...
[10:41] <compilerwriter1> That is correct sir Jucato.
[10:41] <Lynoure> Jucato: substitution command does not a power user make
[10:41] <Jucato> Lynoure: tell that to compilerwriter1 :P
[10:42] <compilerwriter1> I learned vi before I met IRC back in the late 80s early nineties.
[10:42] <Lynoure> Jucato: oh well.
[10:42] <compilerwriter1> Anyway, Lynoure, do you feel like helping me troubleshoot this.
[10:43] <compilerwriter1> Does anybody feel like helping me troubleshoot this mess?
[10:44] <soulfree>  
[10:44] <compilerwriter1> btw Jucato how does one do the emote things in IRC?
[10:44] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: /me action
[10:44] <soulfree> how can i get libxine-extracodecs?
[10:44] <soulfree> i can't find it...sorry
[10:45] <Jucato> soulfree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[10:45] <compilerwriter1> Lynoure:  Are you up to it?
[10:45] <Erunno> I'm about to buy a new notebook. Does anyone know if dual monitor support work with the recent free/binary ATI drivers ?
[10:45] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: Hard to know beforehand, that :)
[10:45] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: What have you checked so far?
[10:46] <compilerwriter1> I have forgotten what all I have checked.  I think I need to start from the beginning so to speak.
[10:46] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: port forwarding not being on on your router would be my first guess and at least in USA many ISPs block many services
[10:47] <compilerwriter1> I have installed ssh.
[10:47] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: sshd, you mean.
[10:47] <compilerwriter1> I have a DI-524 router I should say.
[10:47] <compilerwriter1> Let me look.
[10:48] <compilerwriter1> Lynoure firing up adept now.
[10:48] <compilerwriter1> That could be my problem
[10:49] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: openssh-server is the one you want
[10:50] <compilerwriter1> ok.  I will see what we have in a minute I hope.
[10:52] <compilerwriter1> I have both openssh-server and openssh-client installed.  I also have ssh installed.
[10:52] <Magic-Fx> i love kubuntu
[10:52] <Magic-Fx> im going to see if me and kubuntu can get married.
[10:52] <f4ggz0r> hey guys how do i get from the desktop to the var directory in the command console ?
[10:53] <compilerwriter1> Lynoure: I have both openssh-server and openssh-client installed.  I also have ssh installed.
[10:54] <Magic-Fx> f4ggz0r: just type /var into the address bar in konquerer
[10:55] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: if you do netstat -la  do you see an entry containing *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[10:56] <f4ggz0r> i cant get into kubuntu gui
[10:56] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: if yes, if they try to ssh in from the local network, does that work?
[10:56] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: cd /var/log
[10:56] <f4ggz0r> ahh ok good thx Lyn, life savor
[10:56] <f4ggz0r> *huggies*
[10:57] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: less Xorg.0.log   (pressing q quits)
[10:57] <Magic-Fx> Lynoure: any idea how to set the default nickname/username/server etc in BitchX?
[10:57] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: might want to do  dmesg  too
[10:58] <Lynoure> Magic-Fx: Sorry, never used BitchX, just ircii and irssi and a pile of graphical ones
[10:58] <marc> list channels
[10:59] <Magic-Fx> Lynoure: Whats the most similar to mIRC client available on kubuntu?
[11:00] <Magic-Fx> I'm using Konversation at the moment, which is good, but i can't add aliases which is dissapointing. Unless anyone here can inform me how to do that.
[11:00] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, it says fonts dir not found
[11:00] <Lynoure> Magic-Fx: I have not used Mirc for... 8 years or so :) xchat is not bad.
[11:01] <f4ggz0r> refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing
[11:01] <f4ggz0r> is the last line
[11:01] <Magic-Fx> hmmm... i downloaded xchat and didn't like it. I used to like BitchX heaps but im a bit rusty now. lol
[11:02] <f4ggz0r> how did i lose my fonts directory ?
[11:04] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: anything with EE on Xorg.0.log?
[11:05] <f4ggz0r> let me look..
[11:06] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, a bunch of 'can not open device...' on EE
[11:07] <cpk1> konversation is cool
[11:08] <solemnwarning> Are there any programs I can use for drawing graphs?
[11:08] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: which kind of devices?
[11:09] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, /dev/wacom no such file or dir
[11:10] <solemnwarning> Anyone?
[11:10] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: sounds like you might want to reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:10] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: ah, wacom should not be trouble.
[11:11] <Jucato> solemnwarning: what kind of graphs? There's KChart. I don't know the equivalent OpenOffice.org app
[11:12] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, hmm wat should i do then i wonder
[11:13] <Lynoure> try the command I gave you. but if you are already root, skip the sudo
[11:13] <f4ggz0r> ahh okie
[11:14] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: it will ask you a pile of questions and also try to figure out on it's own things about your display card, monitor and so on.
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, this is wat i typed: reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> but i get 'reconfig not found'
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> reconfig command not found
[11:16] <Erunno> f4ggz0r: Type only the sudo part
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> im in root
[11:17] <f4ggz0r> desktop:/root$
[11:17] <f4ggz0r> lyn said dont type sudo if im in root
[11:17] <Magic-Fx> How do i turn off server notices in Konversation?
[11:18] <Erunno> f4ggz0r: Yes, type the rest then (dpkg-reconfigure and so on)
[11:18] <f4ggz0r> ahh ok
[11:18] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: just  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:19] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: assuming you had root.
[11:19] <f4ggz0r> it says 'must be run in root' i thot i was in root
[11:19] <f4ggz0r> desktop:/root$
[11:19] <f4ggz0r> thats where im at
[11:19] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: I try to separate things to type with double space from the rest, but I quess it is not always learn.
[11:20] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: then try it with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:20] <solemnwarning> Holy crap
[11:20] <solemnwarning> I just installed tulip, ran it and clicked new
[11:20] <solemnwarning> It crashed X o_O
[11:20] <f4ggz0r> ok now its says 'xserver-org not installed
[11:20] <f4ggz0r> '
[11:20] <Erunno> O.o
[11:21] <solemnwarning> How can an app take down the X server? :\
[11:21] <f4ggz0r> :(
[11:21] <f4ggz0r> uh oh is that bad
[11:21] <solemnwarning> It just did it again :|
[11:22] <Lynoure> solemnwarning: report a bug.
[11:22] <solemnwarning> Are there any programs for drawing graphs that don't crash the damm X server?
[11:22] <f4ggz0r> yea well my xserver-org looks like its down too
[11:25] <Erunno> solemnwarning: You could give the beta of the next version a try: http://www.tulip-software.org/
[11:25] <solemnwarning> ok
[11:26] <Erunno> Erunno: You'll probably have to compile it yourself though.
[11:27] <solemnwarning> Is there anything like the windows "character map" program?
[11:27] <Jucato> solemnwarning: kcharselect
[11:27] <solemnwarning> ok
[11:33] <Erunno> solemnwarning: I just installed tulip to see whether it will crash my X too. It seems to be working on my machine.
[11:34] <epimeth> anybody home?
[11:34] <pirothezero> some
[11:35] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, do u think i need to reinstall kubuntu or ?
[11:37] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: sorry I missed what happened with your reconfigure
[11:38] <f4ggz0r> now its says 'xserver-org not installed
[11:38] <adydas_> re install it
[11:39] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: try the same with  xserver-xorg-core  , I might have been careless
[11:39] <f4ggz0r> how do i do that? i get blackscreen after the initial kubuntu pre logon screen
[11:39] <f4ggz0r> ok
[11:40] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, i get same thing, xserver-org-core not installed
[11:41] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: that is weird. and you are not on feisty or something
[11:42] <f4ggz0r> 6.10 i think
[11:42] <Jucato> there's not xserver-xorg-core package
[11:42] <Jucato> oh there is
[11:42] <Jucato> heh lol
[11:45] <f4ggz0r> so far in the month that i've played around with kubuntu, i seem to have more bugs etc than its worth
[11:45] <f4ggz0r> too many glitches & hangups etc
[11:46] <f4ggz0r> i really cant get anything much accomplished as a noob on kubuntu
[11:46] <adydas_> its apart of tha fun
[11:46] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: what happens if you do   startx?
[11:47] <guiden> how do I change the resolution in kde?
[11:48] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, omg!! that worked! but then what was my problem ?
[11:48] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, im now on the kubuntu desktop gui
[11:49] <soulfree> can i ask sometin about divx
[11:49] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: I'm not sure. Just wanted to see if you have xserver installed :)
[11:50] <soulfree> i can't see some(divx,avi)files on my caffein
[11:50] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: pastebin your   dmesg   now that you can.
[11:50] <f4ggz0r> ok
[11:53] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, when i try to install a full upgrade in adept it says 'error committing changes' possibly download problem or commit would break packages
[11:53] <f4ggz0r> is that wat u meant by 'pastebin your dmesg' ?
[11:53] <Lynoure> !pastebin | f4ggz0r
[11:53] <ubotu> f4ggz0r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <pirothezero> hellanzb can go to hell
[11:54] <pirothezero> sabnzbd blows it away imo
[11:54] <guiden> so it's impossible to change the resolution?
[11:54] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: The startx thing is not going to be happening automatically. So seeing what happened at boot would help.
[11:55] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, u mean u want me to pastebin the contents of my dmesg.log or ?
[11:56] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: only if you want to. Not going to force you :)
[11:58] <f4ggz0r> its not problem, i just didnt know exactly wat u meant by pasting my dmesg
[11:58] <f4ggz0r> :)
[11:59] <f4ggz0r> i guess i can open my dmesg log within kubuntu gui
[11:59] <f4ggz0r> im really noob
[11:59] <f4ggz0r> sorry
[12:00] <weatherman> hi, does anybody know if (and when) we'll get new artwork in kubuntu feisty?
[12:02] <Jucato> 1. we most probably will get new artwork in feisty. 2) we'll get it when feisty is released
[12:02] <clownius> we seem to get new artwork on every release
[12:03] <Jucato> of course
[12:04] <waylandbill> gotta make it look appealing to new recruits.
[12:04] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, any idea how i can fix my adept ?
[12:05] <f4ggz0r> cant seem to find my /var/log directory in kubuntu gui
[12:05] <f4ggz0r> :(
[12:06] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: just type in the exact location in the location bar
[12:06] <f4ggz0r> all i see is home and media
[12:06] <f4ggz0r> oh ok
[12:07] <f4ggz0r> wow cool
[12:07] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: I missed the bit where you told in what way your adept is broken. But soon I'll have to go do paid work
[12:09] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, ok i just pasted it
[12:09] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: url?
[12:10] <f4ggz0r> pastebin
[12:10] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: is it very very late at night there? :)
[12:11] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: the url of your specific paste, if you want me to look at it.
[12:12] <f4ggz0r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:12] <f4ggz0r> thats the one u told me to paste it on , right ?
[12:12] <f4ggz0r> well according to the bot
[12:13] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: once you click on the Paste button, it should reload the page and give a new URL
[12:13] <Jucato> give that new URL so that we could see what you pasted
[12:13] <f4ggz0r> thats the url
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> that one i used
[12:14] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: yes I know.
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> there is no other url
[12:14] <Jucato> then you pasted the text in that page right?
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> yes
[12:14] <pirothezero> whats the best way to run a command at the startup/init/bootup of the kernel? i need to run ~/.SABnzbd/sabnzbd/SABnzbd.py -d -f SABnzbd.ini everytime I start my computer for the webserver.
[12:14] <Jucato> then you click on the Paste button
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> yes
[12:15] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: then the page reloads and shows what you pasted right?
[12:15] <pirothezero> i rather not make a bash file for it and leave it on my desktop and have to do it myself
[12:16] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: once the page finishes loading, it will have a new URL, like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/####
[12:16] <f4ggz0r> well, no ... the next page says 'paste something' etc and something about 'spamming'
[12:16] <pirothezero> nm, rc.update is my friend :)
[12:16] <f4ggz0r> wats that mean?
[12:16] <f4ggz0r> was i suppose to pick something under the syntax option or ?
[12:17] <f4ggz0r> no idea wat syntax means
[12:17] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: pick "plain text"
[12:18] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: mostly just an Alien =)
[12:18] <f4ggz0r> ok i just tried 'text only' i get the same spamming response
[12:18] <f4ggz0r> :(
[12:19] <Jucato> O.o
[12:19] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: what are you trying to paste again?
[12:19] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: no. I'm just a humble demi-god
[12:19] <Jucato> (unfortunately...)
[12:20] <f4ggz0r> the contents of my dmesg log file
[12:20] <f4ggz0r> Lyn wanted to see it
[12:20] <Jucato> oh, it must have been too long...
[12:20] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: unless you want to type  startx  every time, it helps to find out why your kdm is not starting on its own...
[12:21] <compilerwriter1> f4ggz0r you may have to cut it into a couple of chunks.
[12:21] <f4ggz0r> ahh so the problem is my log is too big ? ok
[12:21] <compilerwriter1> Could be.
[12:22] <compilerwriter1> Good night all.
[12:23] <compilerwriter1> f4ggz0r You will get it solved with Lyn and Jucato on the case.  Good luck to you.
[12:23] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: you can also sleep today, do the same  startx  thing next time and look into the long term solution then.  No sense zombieing around unless you have to.
[12:24] <f4ggz0r> how come pastebin doesnt just tell me how much text is TOO much... it still says im spamming it after i paste smaller chunks
[12:24] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: let's trying using a different pastebin
[12:25] <Jucato> http://pastebin.ca/
[12:25] <f4ggz0r> ok
[12:27] <f4ggz0r> ok its on 378252
[12:27] <f4ggz0r> http://pastebin.ca/378252
[12:27] <mindspin> !automatix
[12:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:32] <CShadowRun> is there something like a kde task manager?
[12:32] <CShadowRun> wine crashed and it doesn't want to close :(
[12:33] <Jucato> CShadowRun: Ctrl+Esc
[12:33] <CShadowRun> thanks
[12:33] <CShadowRun> wooo, i crashed X
[12:35] <b0rt> hey, simple question, how to change the wallpaper at the back of splash loading screen
[12:35] <b0rt> ?
[12:43] <epimeth> does anyone know if its possible that the network card somehow interferes with the sound card?
[12:44] <wargoth> hi all
[12:48] <clownius> epimeth i working off my Comptia A+ ancient knowledge but an IRQ conflict?
[12:57] <eilker> i cant get kdm, i cant get login screen,
[12:57] <eilker> X is oftenly frozen too
[01:07] <gioacchino> heelo
[01:08] <clownius> yes?
[01:08] <gioacchino> how to execute a daemon on kde start ?
[01:08] <clownius> you want something to start on boot or when you login?
[01:08] <waylandbill> !autostart
[01:08] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:38] <Jucato> !ping
[01:38] <ubotu> pong
[01:40] <wargoth> linux foreva!
[01:40] <wargoth> hi all
[01:44] <wargoth> I've got Kubuntu 6.10 and want to turn my FireFox's web look, like in Konqueror? Any ideas?
[01:46] <wargoth> anybody here?
[01:48] <clownius> wargoth whats the issue?
[01:48] <clownius> turn you web look?
[01:49] <Noshoeman> Hi,everybody.This' the 1st time i use this app,but ,what's this?
[01:49] <b0rt> hey, simple question, how to change the wallpaper at the back of splash loading screen ?
[01:49] <clownius> it an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) program
[01:49] <Noshoeman> well,...thanks:)
[01:49] <clownius> b0rt ill look
[01:50] <b0rt> cant find that blink wallpaper in kcontrol, maybe i just replace it, but need its path
[01:50] <clownius> b0rt if its Kubuntu 6.10 go to Kmenu, System setting, Splash screen
[01:50] <b0rt> its not splash screen, its static image, that appears as wallpaper when loggin' in
[01:51] <wargoth> clownius: yes, turn my web look, I want it like in Konqueror, forms and buttons
[01:51] <clownius> you want to change the desktop wallpaper or splash sceen or am i missing what your after?
[01:52] <b0rt> none of them
[01:52] <clownius> wargoth are you trying to use FF as a file manager?
[01:52] <b0rt> i changed theme, changed splash, but i still get default login screen
 no, just a web browser.
[01:52] <orient2000> background of login?
[01:53] <clownius> wargoth i claim stupidity here i cant work out what you need im dumb
[01:54] <wargoth> kcontrol->system administration->login manager->...
[01:55] <clownius> b0rt id have to reboot to check if it works.  Give me 30 seconds
[01:56] <b0rt> wargoth: let me see
[01:57] <coreymon77> guys
[01:57] <b0rt> wargoth:  there it was !! thanks !!
[01:57] <coreymon77> how do i uninstalll things that were not installed through apt
[01:57] <coreymon77> such as cedega
[01:58] <clownius> ok i see what you mean b0rt it changes loading screen but not the login :(
[01:58] <clownius> my bad
[01:58] <b0rt> clownius: wargoth told me how
 kcontrol->system administration->login manager->...
[01:58] <b0rt> there u can change wallpaper for login
[01:58] <b0rt> =)
[01:59] <clownius> cool i might have a go lol mines et at an odd size lol, the logins at the bottom right, only have the issue with 64bit] 
[02:00] <coreymon77> hello?
[02:00] <waylandbill> coreymon77: depends on how it was installed.
 man gpkg
 man dpkg
[02:00] <wargoth> sorry
[02:00] <waylandbill> coreymon77: did you build from source?
[02:00] <coreymon77> no
[02:00] <coreymon77> i thinkcedega was a deb
 man dpkg
[02:01] <waylandbill> coreymon77: dpkg -r
[02:01] <wargoth> :)
[02:01] <coreymon77> and crossover was done through a script
[02:01] <waylandbill> coreymon77: the script one you'll need an uninstall script if they supplied one.
[02:02] <orient2000> !cedega
[02:02] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:02] <clownius> wargoth ill pick your brain if i could how do i change the resolution of my login screen?
[02:04] <clownius> hmm im might have answer my own question let me test
 just xorg.cong.
 just xorg.conf
[02:05] <b0rt> crossover its really nice, it just works clean
[02:05] <b0rt> its kinda funny when it starts "Simulating Windows Reboot"
[02:09] <clownius> nope it still doesnt like my onboard video card
 just xorg.conf
[02:11] <martti> hola
[02:13] <eilker> i have 32 packages to ugrade, how can i do this from console ? sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[02:13] <clownius> should i be looking at the one in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/xresprobe?
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <Jucato> eilker: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:15] <clownius> thanks.....this is sad even after 6 months i can help some but more likely i need help still
[02:15] <wargoth> man apt-get :)_
[02:18] <wargoth> what about a php editor? :) it's my question
[02:19] <wargoth> i saw a plugin for kate at kde.org that completes php special words, but I couldn't download it alone.
[02:20] <wargoth> and didn't find any more info
[02:20] <wargoth> any ideas?
[02:20] <clownius> nope no fix but ill leave it for now
 google for it
[02:20] <clownius> its niggling only happens on 64bit and its my fault for using cheap onboard vid
[02:21] <clownius> my quad will have a decnt nvid card
[02:22] <wargoth> try to google. there lots of answers to this question.
[02:22] <eilker> wargoth:The following packages have been (packages names) .0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
 this ok
[02:23] <eilker> but it is not upgraded
[02:23] <eilker> i have still 32packages to upgrade
 and check /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <clownius> can i altavista instead lol i hate google and its almost monopoly lol its close the the M$ of search engines lol
 NO, you should use GOOGLE. :)
[02:24] <clownius> rofl
 i LOVE it :)
[02:24] <wargoth> joke..
[02:25] <eilker> wargoth: it is ok too
[02:26] <wargoth> i've got these 32 packages too.. or maybe much more. you should worry about it.
 also you should try aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:27] <eilker> wargoth: my mouse is freezing, i cant use kubuntu cause of it, i dont know reason
[02:28] <wargoth> what is the PC config?
[02:28] <wargoth> and did you installed all drivers to your box?
[02:29] <eilker> yes i did all, it was ok, but i dont know what happend
[02:31] <wargoth> see logs
[02:33] <CShadowRun> hmm, are 'su' and 'sudo' diffrent things?
[02:33] <CShadowRun> because su says my password is wrong (i obviously know what my password is) but sudo works fine
[02:33] <wargoth> yes, they are
[02:33] <CShadowRun> hmm, is there some kind of default su password then?
[02:33] <wargoth> see man su and man sudo
[02:33] <neutraloss> type su passwd
[02:34] <wargoth> no, ubuntu default - not
 sudo passwd
[02:34] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, su aske's for your root password.
[02:34] <neutraloss> wargoth: are the su and sudo independent?
[02:34] <neutraloss> su passwd words for me as well
[02:34] <eilker> wargoth:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8218/ this is from kdm .log
[02:34] <CShadowRun> nope doesn't work for me
[02:35] <CShadowRun> su passwd returns "Unknown id: passwd"
[02:35] <|lostbyte|> If you set sudo passwd root. Then su will work with the root password.
[02:35] <wargoth> sudo passwd !
[02:35] <neutraloss> wargoth is right, mea culpa
[02:35] <CShadowRun> ok its working now :D
[02:36] <|lostbyte|> and you will notice root@hostname at your prompt.
[02:36] <CShadowRun> yea thats right :D
[02:36] <wargoth> of sudo -i
[02:36] <wargoth> OR
[02:37] <wargoth> and you shoudn't set any password
[02:37] <CShadowRun> o.O
[02:37] <clownius> anyone here had dealings with uck?
[02:37] <wargoth> sorry!?
 i'm looking to
[02:38] <CShadowRun> lol i keep looking over to my windows machine and expecting the windows to wobble
[02:38] <clownius> ubuntu customistation kit?
[02:39] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Beryl ?
[02:39] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> yea i use beryl :)
[02:39] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Did you recently do a upgrade ?
[02:39] <woopwoop> Anyone know how to install the flash plugin (for firefox) on x86_64?
[02:39] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> well, i only installed linux like 2 days ago (for the first time)
[02:40] <apokryphos> woopwoop: not possible unfortunately
[02:40] <woopwoop> aaaah
[02:40] <woopwoop> that sucks
[02:40] <woopwoop> :'(
[02:40] <apokryphos> (i) because Kubuntu/Debian systems aren't biarch-compatible, and (ii) because 64bit firefox can't read 32bit plugins
 it's something for full users :)
[02:40] <woopwoop> thanks for the info apokryphos
[02:40] <apokryphos> 64-bit konqueror on the other hand can ;-)
[02:40] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Well, Welcome to Linux :)
[02:41] <apokryphos> (but you need a biarch compatible OS :))
[02:41] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> thanks :)
[02:41] <clownius> thanks lol.. Anyways if you havent played with it no help
[02:41] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> i only ever go back to windows to play counter strike source now, lol. (i couldn't get wine to work)
 it's true)) and WOW
[02:42] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, YEs, CS1.6 works perfectly on wine.. Did't try 2 though.
 can't I, for example, install 32 bit FF and use 32 bit plugins?
[02:42] <apokryphos> wargoth: don't copy and paste nicks, use <TAB> :)
[02:42] <CShadowRun> yea i use counter strike source, when i start it up it comes up full screen grey :/
[02:42] <apokryphos> wargoth: not on Debian-based systems
[02:42] <CShadowRun> i can see the game for like half a second. but then just grey :(
[02:43] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Try asking at #winehq
[02:43] <CShadowRun> hehe, there all afk :D
[02:43] <|lostbyte|> They solved my worms problem.
[02:43] <wargoth> apokryphos: sorry, I doesn't work)) I don't know why. I use Konversation
[02:43] <user1> hello
[02:43] <apokryphos> wargoth: type apok<tab>
[02:44] <apokryphos> should work fine
[02:45] <wargoth> apokryphos: ok. that's fine)))
[02:45] <wargoth> apokryphos: I'm using it the first time))
[02:46] <|lostbyte|> !changelog
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <apokryphos> wargoth: welcome :)
[02:47] <wargoth> apokryphos: haha
[02:47] <eilker> wargoth: any news :)
[02:47] <wargoth> eilker: sorry!?
[02:48] <wargoth> eilker: oh. ok.
[02:48] <eilker> :)
[02:48] <wargoth> eilker: just wait for a minute
[02:49] <eilker> wargoth: ok thanx
[02:49] <wargoth> eilker: please show /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <wargoth> eilker: kdm log isn't good
[02:50] <|lostbyte|> Where could i view change Logs of Packages being added to the repositories?
[02:50] <vamp898> Hi @ all
[02:51] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: after upgrade?
[02:51] <vamp898> how is it??? http://vampserver.dyndns.org/bilder/dark.jpg
[02:51] <|lostbyte|> wargoth, Yes.
[02:52] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: maybe /var/cache/apt/ helps you
[02:52] <vamp898> does it looks good?
[02:53] <|lostbyte|> wargoth, how about date and time of installation?
[02:54] <wargoth> vamp898: fine)) what is that pan to the rigth? I want it)))
[02:54] <vamp898> wait i look
[02:54] <eilker> wargoth: xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8223/
[02:54] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: somewhere might be an installation log
[02:54] <vamp898> donmon 1.2 (with SuperKaramba)
[02:54] <vamp898> apt-get install superkaramba
[02:54] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: i'm looking for it
[02:54] <vamp898> and then, with super karamba you have do downlo0ad donmon 1.2
[02:54] <wargoth> vamp898: thanx))
[02:55] <|lostbyte|> Oh, thanks..
[02:56] <ubuntu_> hello there
[02:56] <eilker> wargoth: and xorg conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8224/
[02:57] <wargoth> eilker: once more: what kind of problem?
[02:57] <eilker> i cant get login screen
[02:57] <ubuntu_> i like to know where i am able to find kubuntu release 6.06.1 in dvd form
[02:57] <vamp898> wargoth: and? did you found it?
[02:58] <vamp898> on http://kubuntu.org
[02:58] <eilker> wargoth : and oftenly my mouse is freezing
[02:58] <vamp898> http://kubuntu.de there you find the 6.06.1 LTS as DVD
[02:58] <wargoth> vamp898: ok, I'll see later
[02:58] <wargoth> vamp898: thanx
[02:58] <wargoth> eilker: oh, ok
[02:59] <vamp898> i meand ubuntuz_
[02:59] <vamp898> :D
[02:59] <vamp898> ubuntu_: on http://kubuntu.de youll find 6.06.1 LTS as DVD
[02:59] <ubuntu_> laughing......no that isn't it. i find it but there is no way to download it
[02:59] <wargoth> eilker: and sudo dmseg please
[02:59] <ubuntu_> if i start the download it breaks after 5 kb
[03:00] <ubuntu_> i got an iso contains of 5 kb
[03:00] <wargoth> vamp898: :)
[03:01] <AMSmith42> How do I launch WINE?
[03:01] <AMSmith42> Nevermind.
[03:01] <Bordy240> AMSmith42: Can always find the file you want to run through WINE, right click it and go from there
[03:01] <AMSmith42> I don't have an icon.
[03:01] <Bordy240> An icon for what?
[03:01] <AMSmith42> I found that I can just run it from the command line.
[03:02] <Bordy240> yeah
[03:02] <AMSmith42> Oh, right.
[03:02] <ubuntu_> hi @<AMSmith42>
[03:02] <AMSmith42> I see what you are saying now.
[03:02] <AMSmith42> Hello, ubuntu_
[03:02] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42>  wine is a virtual machine, isn't it??
[03:03] <eilker> wargoth : it is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8226/
[03:03] <AMSmith42> No, an emulator.
[03:03] <Bordy240> Anyone ever used Cedega instead of WINE? I wanna try it out
[03:03] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42>  that is what i am meaning
[03:03] <AMSmith42> A VM runs the OS, WINE pretends to be the OS.
[03:04] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> what system do you like to emulate??
[03:04] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> ok
[03:04] <AMSmith42> I like to emulate C64.
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> do you have testet vmware??
[03:05] <AMSmith42> No.
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> stop
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> that was too fast
[03:05] <eilker> wargoth : i did sth, let me reboot pls
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> c64??
[03:06] <wargoth_> eilker: ok
[03:06] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> is that your question??
[03:06] <AMSmith42> Oh, damn. Is ubuntu a bot?
[03:07] <Bordy240> Don't think so, I think thats a standard name given by like konversation if you don't provide one
[03:07] <vamp898> wargoth_: why you are green with an underline?
[03:07] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> i thougt you like to emulate linux, windows, mac os....or sth. like that.
[03:07] <Bordy240> I think WINE is a windows emulator, isn't it?
[03:07] <wargoth_> vamp898: don't know)))
[03:07] <Hrontore> okay when i hit save on blue fish the program closes
[03:07] <vamp898> lol :D
[03:07] <AMSmith42> No. I like Commodore 64 games.
[03:08] <Bordy240> Wow, haven't heard that since I was a kid
[03:08] <vamp898> wargoth_: do you have ICQ or any other IM?
[03:08] <vamp898> i like old dos games :D
[03:08] <vamp898> does anyone know Raptor - Call of the Shadows?
[03:08] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> that cought be difficult
[03:08] <wargoth_> vamp898: Konversation
[03:08] <AMSmith42> Is WINE the only Windows emulator on Linux?
[03:08] <Bordy240> theres also Cedega
[03:08] <vamp898> no
[03:08] <vamp898> Cedega
[03:09] <vamp898> WineX
[03:09] <vamp898> Crossover
[03:09] <vamp898> but WinE is as i know, the only one free
[03:09] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> i do not know much about c64......but.....i think there is no os, or?
[03:09] <vamp898> http://transgaming.com there youll find Cedega, this is the best for games
[03:10] <vamp898> !cedega
[03:10] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:10] <AMSmith42> Yes, there is an OS for C64.
[03:10] <Bordy240> I really want to pay for Cedega so I can run stupid WoW
[03:10] <vamp898> on http://aep-emu.de youll find many emus for C64
[03:10] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> how is it called??
[03:10] <vamp898> Bordy240: Do you have any IM
[03:11] <AMSmith42> Commodore 64 DOS
[03:11] <Bordy240> Yeah I do, same name on AIM
[03:11] <Bordy240> hooray rhyming!
[03:11] <AMSmith42> lol Bordy240
[03:11] <vamp898> Bordy240: Vamp898VL add me with this in AIM
[03:11] <Hrontore> blue fish closes when i hit save why?
[03:12] <wargoth_> [away] 
[03:12] <vamp898> Bordy240: no, im no registered
[03:12] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> do you have to install the dos??
[03:12] <Bordy240> well shoot, register your name!
[03:12] <vamp898> how?
[03:12] <vamp898> wiat
[03:12] <vamp898> wait
[03:12] <Vamp898> ^^
[03:12] <dr_willis> - /msg nickserv help
[03:12] <Bordy240> do a /msg nickserv register
[03:12] <Bordy240> woot
[03:13] <Vamp898> my nick iss already registered -.-
[03:13] <Bordy240> And you're sure you didn't do it?
[03:13] <Vamp898> im the only one Vamp898, but i registered many times bevore and forget my pw
[03:14] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> :)
[03:15] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> do you have found another location where kubuntu_V6.06.1LTS_DVD is to load??
[03:15] <Vamp898> hmm
[03:15] <Vamp898> www.sex.de :D
[03:15] <Vamp898> maybe you find a iso here
[03:16] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> i can not believe that. *gg*
[03:16] <Vamp898> i know :D
[03:16] <Vamp898> why you want a DVD?
[03:16] <Vamp898> wait i search for you seriously
[03:16] <wargoth_> Bordy240: you can get Cedega's source free
[03:17] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> cause the lib of a dvd
[03:17] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> and the including packs
[03:18] <Vamp898> hmmm
[03:18] <Vamp898> why you dont want 6.10 Edgy?
[03:18] <eilker> wargoth: any new news :)
[03:18] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> i just want a stable version
[03:19] <Vamp898> 6.10 is stable --.--
[03:19] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> edgy is just beta
[03:19] <wargoth_> |lostbyte|: found: /var/log/dpkg.log
[03:19] <wargoth_> eilker: and sudo dmseg please
[03:19] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> ^^ok, thats right.
[03:19] <wargoth_> ubuntu_: is it?!
[03:19] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: no it isnt
[03:19] <olsta> hi
[03:19] <Vamp898> here
[03:20] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: edgy is not a beta
[03:20] <Vamp898> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.iso
[03:20] <Vamp898> 6.06.1 LTS only for you
[03:20] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: dapper is just the lts release
[03:20] <olsta> i install kubuntu 6.06 but the sources.list doesent work
[03:20] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: edgy is no beta though
[03:20] <ubuntu_> i know....
[03:20] <olsta> can somebody help?
[03:20] <eilker> i did it above ...pls look at above, and i dont have the link at the moment
[03:20] <Vamp898> and here is 6.10 Edgy as DVD
[03:20] <ubuntu_> ok. i try it
[03:20] <Vamp898> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso
[03:21] <eilker> wargoth: i did it above ...pls look at above, and i dont have the link at the moment
[03:21] <Vamp898> ubuntu_: how to say?
[03:21] <Vamp898> *whart
[03:21] <Vamp898> *what
[03:21] <wargoth_> eilker: I've been reconnected.
[03:21] <coreymon77> !ask
[03:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:21] <eilker> wargoth: ok let me do it again
[03:21] <olsta> my sources.list doesent work under kubunu 6.06 where can i get a sources.list with its work?
[03:21] <Hrontore> why does blue fish close out on me with no errrors when i save my work?
[03:22] <Hrontore> and how can i fix it
[03:22] <olsta> my sources.list doesent work under kubunu 6.06 where can i get a sources.list with its work?
[03:23] <wargoth>  /msg NickServ set email yavalek@gmail.com
[03:23] <olsta> can someone help m?
[03:24] <eilker> wargoth: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8232/
[03:24] <olsta> hello?
[03:24] <wargoth> olsta: you should read official manual
[03:25] <olsta> where
[03:25] <olsta> iam new in kubuntu and its my first time
[03:25] <wargoth> olsta: you can find it there
[03:25] <wargoth> olsta: ubuntu.org
[03:25] <wargoth> olsta: wiki.ubuntu.org ...
[03:26] <yaccin> !sources.list
[03:26] <olsta> hmm and if you tell me a link to the actual sources.list for 6.06, its a problem?
[03:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:26] <||arifaX> hi, I have a problem all version later 2.0.0.0 of firefox will only start up once after installation or if I choose safe-mode. any ideas?? I always re-install 2.0.0.0 from apt-cache but I want the latest version because of the security patches. any idea where I could start an investigation?
[03:28] <jean-benoit> hello
[03:28] <wargoth> eilker: %)
[03:30] <wargoth> eilker: what have you done when it becomes buggy?
[03:31] <eilker> wargoth: i just ugraded from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:31] <jef_> Hi
[03:31] <olsta> can you please give a actuall sources.list?
[03:32] <olsta> the default sources.list after install 6.06 doesent work
[03:32] <wargoth> eilker: I think you have problem with xorg.conf .
[03:32] <eilker> wargoth: what do i need to change ?
[03:32] <wargoth> look for a backup in /etc/Xorg/ dir
[03:33] <AMSmith42> Can I run Windows Defender in WINE?
[03:33] <AMSmith42> lol Just kidding.
[03:33] <wargoth> eilker: look for a backup in /etc/Xorg/ dir
[03:33] <eilker> ok
[03:34] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:34] <ubuntu_> it starts working, thanks for that.
[03:35] <ubuntu_> .....but can you answer me why it didn't start under ubuntu.org???
[03:36] <olsta> where can i get sysnaptic the package manager fpr kubuntu?
[03:37] <wargoth> olsta: sudo apt-get install synaptic. :)
 sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:37] <wargoth> :)
[03:37] <MarkCh> :)
[03:37] <soulfree> i have question
[03:37] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install synaptic" if you still didn't see
[03:37] <olsta> well and there is my probelem it doesent work
[03:37] <ubuntu_> i tried it many times before.
[03:37] <wargoth> olsta: but you havn't source list)))
[03:37] <ubuntu_> ..
[03:37] <olsta> sure there is a source list but it will not work
[03:37] <fabio> i suggest to use aptitude
[03:37] <soulfree> how can i play divx files on my kaffein
[03:37] <fabio> i more confortable
 what do you mean does not work?
[03:38] <wargoth> olsta: see /etc/apt/source.list . and uncomment everything
 if it doesnt work then adept and apt-get wont work too...
[03:38] <Jucato> soulfree: didn't I already give you the wiki page for installing libxine-extracodecs hours ago?
[03:38] <wargoth> olsta: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <fabio> there is a client for jabber in kde?
[03:38] <fabio> that work with file transfer
[03:39] <wargoth> fabio: kopete
[03:39] <soulfree> jucato : ofcourse, you did give me the answer
[03:39] <olsta> wargoth: i know but it doesent work with the server they are there
[03:39] <soulfree> but...
[03:39] <fabio> kopete dont work with file transfer
[03:39] <Jucato> soulfree: but?
[03:39] <soulfree> actualy..
[03:39] <olsta> http://rafb.net/p/uWI0YB52.html
[03:39] <soulfree> i have no experience about kubuntu...
[03:40] <olsta> this is the output from apt-get upddate
[03:40] <Jucato> soulfree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 if you lost it
[03:40] <wargoth> olsta: internet connecton issues?
[03:40] <olsta> iam here with the computer ;)
[03:40] <Jucato> soulfree: please ask something specific if you're having trouble. :)
[03:40] <soulfree> please...give me kind answer...
[03:40] <soulfree> thanks...
[03:41] <soulfree> how can i get the lib about xine?
[03:41] <wargoth> to all: http://wiki.kubuntu.org !!!
[03:41] <soulfree> i have no list about it
[03:41] <MarkCh> hmmm... it seems most kde users speak english as a second language...
[03:41] <soulfree> on my adept manager...
[03:41] <soulfree> am i add some source list?
[03:42] <olsta> wargoth: i install kubuntu the internet work without problem and the sources.list had a fault?
[03:42] <wargoth> MarkCh: or the third one... :)
[03:42] <olsta> wargoth: and the user must read a lots of documentation that he find a work sources.list?
[03:42] <ubuntu_> ok, thank you.....see you.
 mp3 playback? just type: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:42] <wargoth> maybe I can speak russian with smth)))) feel free to ask
[03:43] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody having problems with radeon + latest ati drivers + current kernel on edgy? seems like they just arent working...
[03:43] <soulfree> thanks... but... it's not the problem about mp3...about divx(avi)
[03:44] <rysiek|pl> soulfree: just install the package :)
[03:44] <Jucato> soulfree: the package that lets you play mp3 also lets you play avi/divx
[03:45] <soulfree> what is the name of it? and how can i get the package? adept manager?
[03:45] <wargoth> olsta: what it tells you when you're trying to install some package?
[03:46] <olsta> example synaptic?
[03:46] <wargoth> no, apt-get
[03:47] <olsta> no to get synaptic with apt-get, but the package doesent exist
[03:47] <wargoth> olsta: first, you should check sources.list
[03:47] <olsta> k
[03:47] <wargoth> olsta: second, you should type sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <wargoth> olsta: it must work
[03:48] <olsta> my sources.list
[03:49] <wargoth> olsta: MUST if haven't any inet connection issues
[03:49] <olsta> http://rafb.net/p/6djgBo65.html
[03:49] <olsta> i can serve in the internet i can chat about irc ...... but
[03:49] <wargoth> olsta: where are from?
[03:49] <olsta> germany
[03:50] <wargoth> ok. source.lost is ok
[03:50] <olsta> k
[03:50] <Bordy240> so just sudo apt-get install synaptic won't work?
[03:50] <wargoth> olsta: second...
[03:50] <wargoth> olsta: sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <wargoth> in konsole
[03:50] <wargoth> olsta: is it clear?
[03:50] <Bordy240> man I am so glad I installed Yakuake
[03:51] <Bordy240> i hate the konsole. lol.
[03:51] <Jucato> ironic... since yakuake uses konsole... :)
[03:51] <olsta> http://rafb.net/p/bSrLOF33.html
[03:51] <wargoth> Bordy240: what's this? I like ctrl+alt+f1 (f1-f6) :)))
[03:51] <olsta> no
[03:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:52] <wargoth> Bordy240: nicht holen - please translate
[03:52] <olsta> he cant fetch
[03:53] <wargoth> Bordy240: sorry
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: ok
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: )))
[03:53] <olsta> you know the problem?
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: ok, I can send you my source list if you want.
[03:53] <eMaX> hi
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: where can I do this?
[03:53] <olsta> K
[03:54] <eMaX> how do I find out the version of x.org I'm using
[03:54] <eMaX> ?
[03:54] <wargoth> olsta: e-mail?
[03:54] <Bordy240> Wargoth: its a konsole front-end , slides out of the top of the screen (or wherever you put it), you just hit f12
[03:55] <olsta> in the qry
[03:55] <wargoth> olsta: ok, i've it
[03:55] <wargoth> olsta: ok, i've sent it
[03:55] <wargoth> Bordy240: oh, year, I used it)))
[03:57] <olsta> wargoth: thx but doesent work :/
[03:57] <olsta> is there a firewall?
[03:58] <skywalker___> GM its friday yeaaaa
[03:59] <MarkCh> skywalker___: not for long.
[03:59] <MarkCh> aw... sorry, timezone different.
[03:59] <skywalker___> dont tell me you been up all night
[03:59] <skywalker___> ahh
[04:00] <wargoth> olsta: did you sudo apt-get update?
[04:01] <olsta> wargoth: yes but it doesent work
[04:02] <wargoth> ping any host
[04:02] <wargoth> olsta: from sources.list
[04:03] <boss_hog> hello
[04:04] <boss_hog> how can i swich off synaptic trying to install a prog ?
[04:04] <olsta> wargoth: i cant ping the sites
[04:04] <MarcoPau> do we have a firewall by default in kubuntu?
[04:04] <olsta> but i can for example ping www.google.de
[04:05] <olsta> wargoth: i cant ping http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ but i can go with the konqueror
[04:05] <olsta> on this site
[04:06] <MarcoPau> I mean iptables
[04:07] <chris__> hello
[04:09] <wargoth> olsta: do you have any proxy?
[04:10] <olsta> no
[04:11] <olsta> it sucks
[04:12] <skywalker___> I have a question about virtualbox.. If I turn up the base memory and video memory with this effect linux?
[04:12] <wargoth> olsta: so I don't know why do you browser connects to the site and konsole doesn't
[04:12] <olsta> ping will work too
[04:13] <wargoth> ok.
[04:13] <wargoth> olsta: now update list
[04:13] <wargoth> olsta: sude apt-get update
[04:13] <olsta> the same :/
[04:14] <wargoth> pings, but doesn't updates?!
[04:14] <olsta> yes
[04:14] <wargoth> hm...
[04:14] <wargoth> check /etc/apt/apt.conf
[04:14] <olsta> Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[04:15] <wargoth> olsta: have no idea %)
[04:15] <olsta> wargoth: thanks for your support
[04:16] <wargoth> olsta: try to complete updating, then try to get and install smth
[04:16] <olsta> smth?
[04:16] <wargoth> maybe some hosts are dead now. I didn't checked
[04:17] <wargoth> olsta: for examle, synaptic
[04:17] <olsta> k
[04:20] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I can't seem to use my tablet.  It keeps seeing my tablet as a mouse.  Udev doesn't seem to work properly.  I have a Graphire 4 tablet.
[04:20] <raylu>  If I have a RAID0 drive setup...how do I "un-raid-ify" it?
[04:21] <raylu>  Ertain, what should it see it as?
[04:21] <Vamp898> ubuntu_: i know why you wanted 6.06.1, beceause the LTS (Long Time Support)
[04:21] <Vamp898> *term
[04:23] <Ertain> raylu: it should see it as a Wacom tablet.  The first time I used it the features just went out the window.  After a little tinkering with the udev file it didn't work at all.  Then I went back and changed the udev file.  Now it still works, albeit with the functionality of a mouse again.
[04:25] <raylu>  Hm...no idea what it should do then, sorry :P
[04:25] <Ertain> Figures. :-(
[04:29] <nightpath_finder> servus
[04:31] <animimotus> hi
[04:32] <animimotus> I can hear sound output from my usb micro-headset
[04:32] <animimotus> lusb gives : Bus 001 Device 004: ID 047f:c001 Plantronics, Inc.
[04:33] <animimotus> in kmix it recognized
[04:33] <harmental> has anybody tried acrobat reader 8.0 on kubuntu?
[04:33] <animimotus> but I can't switch
[04:33] <animimotus> harmental: I user kpdf and xpdf
[04:34] <harmental> animimotus: not quite the answer i was waiting for ;op
[04:36] <animimotus> harmental: I wait for a answer too :p
[04:41] <nadeesha> hi
[04:42] <guiden> is there a newer version of valknut that is written i qt3 or 4?
[04:45] <willow_> hello all
[04:49] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:50] <Ace2016> anyone have a good guide for compiling xgl from cvs or git?
[04:51] <timster> How can I find out which graphics card I have? And Do I want standard or proprietary drivers
[04:52] <Ace2016> proprietary drivers are only really needed if your going to run stuff like beryl, watch high def videos or play games
[04:52] <timster> Ok
[04:52] <Jucato> timster: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:52] <timster> Ok
[04:52] <Jucato> timster: you only need the proprietary drivers if you need 3d hardware acceleration
[04:52] <Chameleon22> hi all, is there an easy way to grep for info out of a CHM file from command line (need to script for 100's of files)?
[04:53] <timster> So if I hadn't selected proprietry drivers in the controll pannel, it wouldn't use them?
[04:53] <Jucato> timster: you'd have to install the drivers first before they can actually be usable
[04:54] <timster> I have
[04:54] <timster> Well I ahve installed them with adept
[04:54] <Jucato> hm...
[04:54] <timster> How can I set them up
[04:54] <Jucato> timster: you also need to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches the version of your linux-image
[04:54] <Jucato> in Edgy, that would be linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:55] <timster> The selected driver and monitor configuration has not been successfully tested on this computer.
[04:55] <timster> How can I restet to normal?
[04:55] <Jucato> click on Defaults?
[04:55] <Jucato> did you read what I said about linux-restricted-modules?
[04:55] <timster> The button is greyed out
[04:55] <timster> Yes
[04:55] <Jucato> you need to be in administrator mode
[04:56] <timster> I am
[04:56] <Jucato> the proprietary driver won't work without that restricted modules
[04:56] <Jucato> btw, what video card?
[04:56] <timster> GeForce FX 5600
[04:56] <guiden> what should I do if I can't find the program I want in the repository?
[04:56] <timster> how do I restart x? ctrl-alt-basckspace
[04:56] <Ace2016> guiden: compile it yourself?
[04:57] <timster> yeah?
[04:57] <Jucato> timster: yes. but you'll only have a broken X if you don't install what I said
[04:57] <timster> Butt I cant reset to defaults
[04:57] <Ace2016> guiden: or add a repo that has it or find rpms and convert them to debs and install those
[04:57] <timster> I reselected standard drivers
[04:58] <Jucato> timster: it goes like this: 1) install nvidia-glx; 2) install linux-restricted-modules-generic (if you're on Edgy); 3) in Konsole, run "sudo nvidia-xconfgi" then 4) restart X
[04:58] <timster> Ok
[04:58] <guiden> oh
[04:58] <Ace2016> guiden: what program is it?
[04:59] <timster> Ok
[04:59] <guiden> dc_qt
[04:59] <timster> I restarted its fine
[04:59] <timster> So I think the propitary are fine
[05:00] <timster> lo
[05:00] <timster> lol*
[05:00] <Jucato> guiden: choice of installation, in preferred order: repository (using apt-get/Adept); .deb package (using dpkg); source code (compile)
[05:01] <Jucato> timster: can you check? "glxinfo | grep -i render" and see if "direct rendering: yes" appears?
[05:01] <guiden> but if I compile fro source, can I remove it from the adept program later?
[05:02] <Jucato> guiden: nope.
[05:02] <Jucato> what's dc_qt?
[05:02] <Ace2016> guiden: yes if you use sudo checkinstall -d, instead of sudo make install at the last bit
[05:02] <guiden> it just spread around the computer never to be removed properly again?
[05:02] <Jucato> guiden: you can "make uninstall" later
[05:03] <Jucato> guiden: as long as you don't delete the directory where you ran "make" and "make install"
[05:03] <Jucato> !compile | guiden
[05:03] <ubotu> guiden: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:04] <Jucato> Ace2016: just don't distribute it around...
[05:05] <Ace2016> i don't its for installing cvs stuff into /opt, i want to be able to remove it cleanly
[05:05] <guiden> I wan't control over everything
[05:05] <guiden> want
[05:05] <Jucato> Ace2016: w/c one?
[05:07] <guiden> ok
[05:07] <Ace2016> Jucato: whats w/c?
[05:07] <guiden> jucato, it's a direct connect client, I didn't like valknut because it was ugly.
 i don't its for installing cvs stuff into /opt, i want to be able to remove it cleanly <---
[05:07] <Ace2016> yea
[05:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[05:08] <Jucato> you can do that without checkinstall...
[05:08] <Jucato> Ace2016: ^^^
[05:08] <Ace2016> i don't distribute the packages, its for installing cvs stuff into /opt, i want to be able to remove it cleanly, and keep a backup of the deb for later
[05:08] <guiden> ok :)
[05:08] <Jucato> Ace2016: actually checkinstall is even messier
[05:08] <Vamp898> does any one of you tested the new WoltLab Burning Board 3.0.0 Beta 4?
[05:08] <Ace2016> Jucato: how? when i removed it, everything in the dirs were gone
[05:09] <Jucato> Ace2016: you keep the build directory around.
[05:09] <Eruantalon> !compiz
[05:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:10] <Jucato> Ace2016: and since you're using cvs, that's something you already do, for updates
[05:10] <Ace2016> Jucato: nope, most of the time i delete it
[05:10] <Jucato> O.o
[05:12] <fyrmedic> I installed gnome parallel to kde yesterday and I want to get rid of it and all dependencies and corresponding packages. What is the apt comand that I need to use?
[05:12] <Ace2016> ouch
[05:12] <[R] eaper> hi, i need help with beryl on kde with ati radeon x1600
[05:12] <Jucato> fyrmedic: to uninstall gnome?
[05:12] <waylandbill> fyrmedic: apt-get remove the package you installed (gnome)
[05:12] <fyrmedic> Jucato: yes sorry
[05:13] <Jucato> fyrmedic: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:13] <Jucato> waylandbill: won't work exactly...
[05:13] <waylandbill> Jucato: really? it wouldn't just take out the auto installed pacakges?
[05:14] <Jucato> waylandbill: not that I'm aware of.. or not always
[05:14] <fyrmedic> I tried the apt-get remove gnome but it left all the packages that were installed with it. those are what I want to get rid of.
[05:14] <waylandbill> Jucato: ok. I'll take your word for it.
[05:14] <Ace2016> isn't there a key gnome lib that everything depends one, and if you uninstall it, everything else gets removed too?
[05:14] <Ace2016> like kde and kde-libs?
[05:15] <Ace2016> bye all
[05:15] <waylandbill> acetoxy: aptitude would warn you if you tried to
[05:15] <waylandbill> oops.. he left. :-)
[05:15] <jack__> hi, how can i get such extremely bright and glossy colours like in the mac osx style for kde?
[05:16] <fyrmedic> Jucato: Wow that link is awesome. Thanks
[05:16] <Jucato> fyrmedic: did you install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:21] <fyrmedic> Jucato: no just did sudo ap-get install gnome
[05:21] <Jucato> ah... don't know if that page will apply..
[05:23] <fyrmedic> Jucato: it is taking some editing.  I have time so I can probably work my way through it. If you come up with a better solution I am open to ideas. I just don't want to re-install from scratch if I don't have to.
[05:23] <waylandbill> that's why I thought gnome could just be removed.
[05:23] <fyrmedic> waylandbill: it can but it doesn't take everything else with it.
[05:24] <waylandbill> that's why I use aptitude. it tracks what it puts in and takes it back out.
[05:24] <waylandbill> but you can use deborphan to try to get rid of the orphans
[05:30] <fyrmedic> So when I am using sudo apt-get remove    is there a option to ignore stuff that isn't there without breaking the process.
[05:30] <Jucato> hm... I thought it should do that automatically
[05:33] <hak5fan> I'm configuring my new kernel for compilation. Do I need
[05:33] <hak5fan> I'm configuring my new kernel for compilation. Do I need  Multi-core scheduler support when I'm not on a multi-core system?
[05:42] <hak5fan> I'm configuring my new kernel for compilation. Do I need  Multi-core scheduler support when I'm not on a multi-core system?
[06:19] <Eagle_PC> what is the minimum system requirements to make kubuntu run?
[06:20] <sampan> eagle_pc  three hamsters and an abacus
[06:20] <Eagle_PC> well for it to run decent?
[06:21] <eihnat> 1GHz, 256RAM
[06:21] <eihnat> ?
[06:21] <eihnat> maybe
[06:21] <Eagle_PC> will it run fast (without lagging) on 256 ram
[06:21] <eMaX> re
[06:21] <eMaX> all, how can I default to a konsole based login upon startup?
[06:22] <Eagle_PC> eihnat: is there a page somewhere with the specs on it?
[06:22] <sampan> eagle_pc i think it will depend on what apps you run and how much eye-candy you have turned on -- it'll "run" on that but might use swap (and thus have some slowdowns) at times
[06:22] <bubu1uk> Eagle_PC: dunno, google it
[06:23] <Eagle_PC> sampan:  ok :D thats what I was wondering
[06:23] <Eagle_PC> I kinda want to stay away from swap
[06:24] <sampan> eagle_pc  you might try xubuntu (ubuntu with xfce) it's a lot lighter on resources
[06:24] <Eagle_PC> sampan:  yeah I was leaning that way, and I was popping in here to double check the requirements :D
[06:25] <sampan> :)  try 'em both! install one, then install the meta package for the other and test which you prefer
[06:25] <AMSmith42> Would Xubuntu be better for thin clients?
[06:25] <Eagle_PC> sampan: meta pakage?
[06:26] <bubu1uk> Eagle_PC: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:26] <bubu1uk> or use aptitude.
[06:26] <bubu1uk> whichever u prefer
[06:26] <sampan> eagle_pc  sorry jargon.  if you install xubuntu, after it's running use apt to install kubuntu-desktop ... or vice-versa as bubu1uk suggested
[06:26] <sampan> then you'd have both and can switch back and forth to see which runs smoother
[06:26] <Eagle_PC> ah nice :D
[06:27] <Eagle_PC> I might try that :D I will definatly use xubuntu though (I assume they have access to all of each others programs just by apt getting?)
[06:27] <bubu1uk> eMaX: did u mean in ur quiestion not to run desktop manager at all?
[06:27] <sampan> yep, all the *buntus use the same repositories so you can mix-n-match install :)
[06:28] <Eagle_PC> ok thanks
[06:28] <sampan> np :)
[06:28] <chavo> yeah just do an apt-get install *
[06:29] <eMaX> yes. I stopped kdm from starting (am running another instance of kubuntu in a vmware here) yet then I just get stuck at the splash screen even though the system has fully booted (i can login using ssh)
[06:30] <chavo> eMaX, try hitting ctrl-alt-f1
[06:30] <chavo> sometimes if you stop kdm it will stay at hte 7th tty
[06:32] <eMaX> this chvt's the host system whic his not what I want
[06:33] <vicks> i get out of synch on my screen while booting kubuntu feisty. when kde starts it all works
[06:33] <vicks> can anyone help me
[06:33] <geert_> Geert`s eerste proef
[06:34] <geert_> Het is duidelijk dat geert weer de oen is hij begint iets en moet dan nog de gebruiks aanwijzingen lezen.
[06:37] <geert_> Hallo Rinse en bram de expers! Ik zou wel willen weten hoe ik er mee verder moet. en of wat ik nu doe wel overkomt.
[06:38] <Jucato> !nl | geert_
[06:38] <ubotu> geert_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:39] <geert_> Nou dat is dan duidelijk het komt aan bij anderen. Dank jullie.
[06:39] <soulfree> hi
[06:46] <Erunno> Does anyone know if the metabar in Konqueror is supposed to be just a Kubuntu wallpaper with no content ?
[06:48] <geert_> I grete Tobias Hunger and i am working on a mail to him but first i like to try jabber.
[06:49] <tomtom> bonjour
[06:49] <geert_> #ubuntu.nl
[06:49] <Jucato> geert_: #ubuntu-nl
[06:49] <tomtom> ca va?
[06:50] <Erunno> !fr | tomtom
[06:50] <ubotu> tomtom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:50] <moi1392> hello, I just installed kubuntu feisty and it stop my dhcp interface when kdm shows up !
[06:50] <moi1392> what's wrong ?
[06:51] <tomtom> thanks
[06:51] <Erunno> moi1392: Using pre-release software ? ;-) Seriously, no idea. I don't use feisty for that reason.
[06:52] <moi1392> Erunno: yes, but want to take a try at it ;)
[06:52] <prak> does anyone know how to install sdcc nightly snapshots onto existing release version of the compiler?
[06:55] <parkerw207> Guys/gurls , is there a open soruce program thats like dreamweaver ? or front page ?
[06:56] <reldruh> parkerw207: the closest I've found is N-vu, but it's not really equivelant (my opinion). Well, it might be to front page, but definitely not to dreamweaver
[06:56] <chavo> parkerw207, closest thing to it is Nvu, or you can run some older versions of frontpage with wine
[06:57] <parkerw207> hmmm..
[06:57] <parkerw207> well that would be something i suggest the programmers start developing , something descent hehe
[06:57] <reldruh> I think everybody's got something like that :-)
[06:57] <parkerw207> :P
[06:58] <reldruh> and that the way the developers became developers is by actually going out and starting to build it :-)
[06:58] <chavo> parkerw207, most of the programmers are geeks and they don't need no fancy WYSIWYG :)
[06:58] <parkerw207> lol true
[06:58] <parkerw207> i do know html
[06:59] <parkerw207> its just i dont want to have to write pages of code everytime
[06:59] <parkerw207> RAD , all the way :P
[06:59] <reldruh> i'm hoping that the port of flash 9 is a sign that adobe is becoming more receptive to linux and will eventually port all of their software over
[06:59] <parkerw207> i hope so
[06:59] <parkerw207> you cant beat dreamweaver
[07:00] <reldruh> just because nobody has yet doesn't mean it can't be done :-)
[07:00] <parkerw207> i meant , at the moment lol
[07:00] <reldruh> yes ;-)
[07:01] <Erunno> It would probably take years to reimplement half of Dreamweavers features :P
[07:01] <reldruh> if they did port it over though, I really wonder how many people would buy it. Linux users aren't exactly used to paying for software, and a lot of us are tech-savvy enough to be able to obtain less-than-legal copies. It would be interesting to see how that worked out
[07:02] <parkerw207> true
[07:02] <parkerw207> i dont see it happening any time soon
[07:03] <reldruh> agreed. I'd love to see photoshop on linux natively, though...
[07:03] <reldruh> has herd 5 still not been released?
[07:03] <Cugel> It was supposed to be out today.
[07:03] <reldruh> I thought yesterday....
[07:04] <reldruh> somebody shold update the schedule on the wiki if each milestone has been moved back a day
[07:04] <moi1392> where is the networkmanager config ?
[07:05] <reldruh> moi1392: K Menu > Internet > KNetworkManager
[07:05] <moi1392> reldruh: :) the config file ;)
[07:05] <moi1392> ...ok, network manager have no config file :/
[07:06] <moi1392> so it have a bug !
[07:06] <chavo> reldruh, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/herd-5/
[07:06] <moi1392> when it start (with kdm), it release my network connection get by dhcp at startup.
[07:07] <moi1392> and then I need to login to configure the network :/
[07:07] <reldruh> moi1392: it looks like it doesn't have one? It uses the settings set within your distro...
[07:07] <reldruh> chavo: thank you :-) Did this just happen? I was just looking for it and couldn't find a release announcement
[07:08] <chavo> reldruh, it hasn't been up very long no
[07:09] <NewNeo> Dont be Fooled anymore! Educate yourself to what is right in front of your face! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMn9v7JxPDI&mode=related&search=
[07:09] <Jucato> NewNeo: please don't spam
[07:11] <Erunno> Viva la revolution !
[07:12] <coreymon77> guys
[07:12] <coreymon77> what does this mean
[07:12] <coreymon77> The address book '/home/coreymon/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf' is locked by application ''.
[07:12] <coreymon77> If you believe this is incorrect, just remove the lock file from '/home/coreymon/.kde/share/apps/kabc/lock/*.lock'
[07:12] <coreymon77> when i tr4y to create a new asociation
[07:13] <coreymon77> how do i fix that
[07:14] <coreymon77> hello?
[07:14] <Erunno> coreymon77: I'll try: Some other application seems to be accessing the file and is blocking others from doing the same.
[07:15] <coreymon77> that cant be true
[07:15] <coreymon77> i have no other application open
[07:15] <Erunno> coreymon77: Just do as it says. If you are not aware of any other app who has business with the file just delete the lock file
[07:15] <coreymon77> how
[07:16] <___osh__> coreymon77: or try "fuser std.vcf" to find out what's using that file.
[07:16] <Erunno> coreymon77: Yes, better approach.
[07:16] <___osh__> coreymon77: you should get a pid as an answer.
[07:16] <coreymon77> Cannot stat std.vcf: No such file or directory
[07:16] <coreymon77> Cannot stat std.vcf: No such file or directory
[07:17] <Erunno> coreymon77: Use the full file path.
[07:18] <coreymon77> it gave me nothing
[07:19] <rx_> someone running kubuntu feisty herd 4 send me usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[07:19] <rx_> errr
[07:19] <rx_> someone running kubuntu feisty herd 4 send me usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop
[07:19] <Erunno> coreymon77: It's probably safe to remove the lock file then. Just go the the directory specified in the error message and delete the correspondant lock file.
[07:19] <rx_> because i overwrited kde.desktop when i tried kde4
[07:19] <rx_> :|
[07:23] <___osh__> rx_: Sorry. No kubuntu for me. Starting X in kubuntu locks the computer up. Works great in Mandriva/XP but not kubuntu. No version. Annoying but true. :-/
[07:23] <rx_> well
[07:23] <rx_> yeah its buggy :|
[07:23] <chavo> rx_, http://rafb.net/p/jMU7Fs97.html
[07:23] <rx_> chavo: thx
[07:24] <geert_af> 0
[07:24] <pucko-> anyone know of a tool that I can use to sync iCal-calendars with my phone?
[07:24] <rx_> ive had all sort of problems with kubuntu but its getting better with every rls
[07:24] <chavo> rx_, nvm the encoding is all messed up there
[07:25] <kimmern> Anyone got tcl8.5/tk8.5? The links on ubuntuforums.org doesn't work..
[07:26] <pucko-> I have an unsolved issue in kde. For some reason ksirtet wont work in human-to-human (2player) mode (none of the buttons work then, regardless if I redefine them or not)
[07:26] <rx_> chavo: well all i really need are lines in english
[07:26] <rx_> so np :P
[07:26] <rx_> thx
[07:26] <chavo> true
[07:28] <pedro> Hi all of you!
[07:28] <tsb> edgy -> feisty h5 soon done dist-upgrade'ing.. *crosses fingers*
[07:28] <pedro> I am having some problems with sound
[07:28] <rx_> h5?
[07:29] <rx_> since when?
[07:29] <pedro> How can I restart the sound system?
[07:29] <tsb> rx_: it just came out
[07:29] <pedro> is there a command for that?
[07:29] <pedro> I use kubuntu edgy
[07:30] <pedro> Another question that is vinculated with this
[07:31] <pedro> I have a process that aparently is running and busing the sound system and I cannot kill it
[07:31] <pedro> it is Zynaddsubfx, a synth software
[07:31] <pedro> any idea?
[07:31] <animimotus> with: sudo asoundconf set-default-card thesecondsoundcard <----------- could I give root password for once and for all?
[07:33] <pedro> Well, I proved that command but it didn't work
[07:34] <pedro> I think it's because the zynaddsubfx
[07:34] <pedro> How can I kill it if it doesn't appear on running proceses?
[07:34] <pedro> It is only showed in desktop
[07:35] <kowa> Sysinfo for 'Medionux': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 3.06GHz at 2400 MHz (4805 bogomips), HD: 8/53GB, RAM: 493/503MB, 115 proc's, 1.37h up
[07:36] <pedro> any suggestion?
[07:36] <tsb> I am assuming removing mdadm, lvm2 et al is perfectly safe since I do not run anything but a vanilla / etx3fs right?
[07:37] <tsb> (I'm asking because apparently I'm "screwed" when I reboot if I depend on it)
[07:40] <moi1392> I have no account on launchpad, could someone try my bug on feisty and fill a bugreport please ?
[07:40] <Jucato> moi1392: try #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <moi1392> ok
[07:42] <animimotus> with: sudo asoundconf set-default-card thesecondsoundcard <----------- could I give root password for once and for all?
[07:43] <Erunno> tsb: No software raid ?
[07:43] <tsb> Erunno: nope
[07:44] <tsb> df only lists /dev/sdaX, udev etc..
[07:44] <tsb> no mdX or whatever
[07:44] <ComputerHermit> Iam still have sound problems Iam about to run ubuntu on my new pc  its a IBM I havent got it yet
[07:44] <ComputerHermit> I dont know what els to do
[07:45] <ComputerHermit> Iam that much of a new user
[07:45] <ComputerHermit> I guess
[07:46] <Erunno> tsb: Don't see a reason why it should cause a problem then, unless someone in the channel objects:-P
[07:46] <Erunno> Speak now or remain silent forever !
[07:46] <tsb> hrm.. amarok dependancy hell :(
[07:48] <ComputerHermit> I used redhat and mandrake in the pass but they had sndconfig
[07:49] <carlos> hola?
[07:49] <Erunno> !es | carlos
[07:49] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:49] <carlos> a alguien le funciona el messenger?
[08:00] <tsb> yay, seems to work (even though aptitude install gives me a -2304 score with conflicts)
[08:00] <tsb> (reboot was fine, so I didn't need mdadm etc)
[08:00] <Erunno> tsb: I feel relieved :D
[08:01] <tsb> Erunno: you should. I know where you live.
[08:02] <Erunno> tsb: ;-) Long way from Norway :P
[08:02] <tsb> Erunno: :)
[08:08] <stamen> hi
[08:08] <stamen> how to check which version of ALSA I am using
[08:12] <tsb> what is the name of the kde screenshot util again? not kscreenshot but..
[08:12] <tsb> ah, ksnapshot
[08:31] <jarn> Is there a way to make KMail send mail from one account through one e-mail automatically? At the moment, both of my accounts (one for each email) send mail from the same address.
[08:33] <xpoint> jarn: right clink on a folder change settings to send there
[08:33] <globe> can anybody help me reinstall the nvidia drivers after dist-upgrade?  the nvidia installer is giving me errors-cant find kernel sources
[08:33] <jarn> Which setting is that?
[08:34] <jarn> xpoint: Is that Sender Identity? Because if it is, I already did that.
[08:38] <xpoint> jarn: you need to tell me more how you setup kmail so i can explain better what you need to do
[08:38] <xpoint> jarn: you have 2 pop2 mailbox configured right ?
[08:38] <jarn> xpoint: Yes.
[08:38] <xpoint> and one ident ?
[08:38] <jarn> Two idents.
[08:39] <jarn> Don't I need one for each box?
[08:39] <xpoint> good
[08:39] <jarn> And then in my Identities, one is set up to have one of my email addresses and the other is set up for the other.
[08:39] <xpoint> now clik on the one pop3 mailbox folder you like to have changed, find settings last menu on the right clik
[08:39] <jarn> Is that correct?
[08:40] <jarn> Okay.
[08:40] <xpoint> yes you have 2 ident, but default is the first ident for both email boxes
[08:41] <jarn> I already changed the other boxes for my other identity. I put Sender Identity to the other identity.
[08:41] <xpoint> still not good ?
[08:42] <jarn> Yes.
[08:42] <jarn> Still not good.
[08:42] <jarn> It's using the identity correctly, but not using the e-mail it seems like.
[08:42] <xpoint> this should work
[08:43] <jarn> Because in the Sent box, it lists Sender as my other identity.
[08:43] <jarn> But it's still sending the mail from the other one.
[08:46] <jarn> So no ideas? :(
[08:46] <eagles0513875> hey all im glad to be back on ubuntu
[08:46] <eagles0513875> *kubuntu
[08:47] <eagles0513875> has anyone played around with wine on here
[08:47] <NightBird> yes
[08:47] <eagles0513875> is it rather easy to config here in kde
[08:47] <jarn> Wine is very easy to config.
[08:47] <NightBird> well, there is the standard winecfg program that is used to do the configurations
[08:48] <eagles0513875> i know that but in ubuntu i was having a really hard time getting the video to work correctly for world of warcraft
[08:48] <eagles0513875> not to mention i broke wine twice first time i almost got WoW to work then the 2nd time it refused to loade the exe installer
[08:50] <NightBird> eagles0513875, were you using the wine from the adept, or were you compiling from source?
[08:50] <NightBird> or downloading the current version
[08:50] <eagles0513875> in ubuntu from the pkg manager that comes with it
[08:51] <NightBird> alright, that's a fairly old version of wine, and it might not be as good as was needed
[08:51] <eagles0513875> isnt the newest version 9.31
[08:51] <eagles0513875> the version that i downloaded in ubuntu was 9,30
[08:51] <NightBird> huh
[08:51] <eagles0513875> 0.9.31
[08:51] <NightBird> well, the newest one is 9.31
[08:51] <eagles0513875> isnt that the newest version of wine
[08:52] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:52] <eagles0513875> the one in ubuntu was 9.30 were there significant improvements from 30 to 31
[08:52] <[GuS] > Hi guys.... is there a fix for Onboard sound card Realkteck HDA RLC 883? I am currently using Kubuntu Feisty and the alsamixer does not work. When i try to use it, i have this: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument. And many errors looking at dmesg in relation to that, like: [   25.064000]  hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0x9 and invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff (many of them)
[08:53] <|lostbyte|> !ubuntu+1
[08:53] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:53] <NightBird> [GuS] , I was having that problem before with the alsa that came with kubuntu, but I managed to fix it by downloading and compiling from source..
[08:54] <[GuS] > i did the same NightBird
[08:54] <[GuS] > but same problem
[08:54] <NightBird> well... a similar problem anyways...
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> [GuS] , ^^
[08:54] <[GuS] > |lostbyte|, is a common problem on Edgy too
[08:54] <[GuS] > indeed in Edgy even works...
[08:55] <eagles0513875> how do i change the clickin from single click to double click
[08:55] <NightBird> eagles0513875: System settings, Keyboard and mouse, mouse
[08:56] <jarn> !ubuntu+2
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <NightBird> then in Icons, change it to Double-click rather than single-click
[08:56] <eagles0513875> ty night
[08:56] <jarn> Is there a way to make anything opened in Konqueror redirect to the already opened konqueror I have in a different desktop?
[08:58] <LycanNyc-work> everytime I'm opening something in kde  "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream "
[08:59] <eagles0513875> doesnt that have somethign to do with audio
[08:59] <LycanNyc-work> not sure
[09:01] <eagles0513875> night u there
[09:01] <NightBird> ah, eagles0513875: there was a major change to d3d in version 0.9.31
[09:02] <NightBird> that breaks direct3d
[09:02] <eagles0513875> oh so i should download wine 31
[09:02] <NightBird> no
[09:02] <NightBird> you should go to wine 9.30
[09:02] <eagles0513875> y is that
[09:02] <NightBird> because 9.31 broke it
[09:02] <Ick> hello, rhythmbox doesn't let my import mp3s and says "the file is not an audio stream"
[09:03] <NightBird> Ick, sounds like you might not have mp3 support installed
[09:03] <eagles0513875> so stick with 30 night
[09:03] <NightBird> eagles0513875, yes
[09:03] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:05] <NightBird> they are improving the way that dx handles opengl states, but it has broke direct3d support for now...
[09:05] <bipolar> does anyone know when we will get herd5?
[09:05] <NightBird> so eventually it will be better and faster, but for now it's gotten worse
[09:05] <NightBird> bipolar, I don't!
[09:06] <ari_> hi !!!
[09:06] <NightBird> hi ari
[09:07] <ari_> i'm having some problems installing all the stuff to do PHP, might you be able to help me a little please !?!
[09:07] <NightBird> all the stuff to do php?
[09:07] <NightBird> you mean apache2+php plugin?
[09:07] <ari_> yes
[09:07] <ari_> i mean apache, mysql and php.
[09:07] <NightBird> ok
[09:07] <bipolar> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd5/Kubuntu  << Herd5 page
[09:07] <NightBird> have you installed all of that?
[09:07] <NightBird> :P
[09:09] <TehUni> i've been using (k)ubuntu for a little over a year now and am comfortable. about to install on a new hard drive and want to start fresh. is feisty stable enough to use at home?
[09:10] <NightBird> TehUni: what do you mean by stable enough?
[09:11] <TehUni> NightBird: vmware, firefox, thunderbird, amarok. those are the biggies.
[09:11] <ari_> NightBird: i have not installed herd5.
[09:11] <NightBird> TehUni: well... maybe...
[09:11] <TehUni> wondering if i should go ahead and install feisty, or just stick with edgy for a few more months
[09:11] <TehUni> but i'm reinstalling now anyway, ya know?
[09:11] <NightBird> yeah
[09:12] <NightBird> I can understand the reason why you would want to go with that...
[09:12] <elovera> hay alguien de venezuela
[09:12] <elovera> buenas tardes
[09:12] <bipolar> Hey guys... it looks like herd5 *is* out, and up on the website, even though it's not announced. It's probbly not out to all the mirrors yet, but I hooked up with the desktop iso torrent.
[09:12] <NightBird> TehUni: I would guess, that if you're fine with uninstalling and installing older versions(in case something doesn't work) from source/apt-get or whatever, then go ahead
[09:13] <bipolar> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/herd-5/
[09:13] <bipolar> I would sugest only using the torrent until it's officaily announced.
[09:13] <Vamp898> dies anyone know a good tool for Ubuntu to make you own Distribution
[09:13] <Vamp898> ?
[09:13] <Vamp898> in Dream Linux 2.2 MME you have a tool called mkdistro
[09:15] <ari_> elovera: i think there is a chat for spanish-speaking people
[09:15] <tsdgeos_> !es
[09:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:15] <TehUni> welp, herd 5. guess that settles it. i'll give feisty a shot
[09:23] <McClane> can anybody help me ?
[09:23] <AMSmith42> KTouch is good because it is flexible and isn't all typing games, but sure wish I could have some game levels as a reward for passing lectrues.
[09:23] <eagles0513875> mcclane just ask ur question
[09:24] <AMSmith42> er, lectures.
[09:26] <milaks> Hi. I have mapped right menu-key (since I do not use it) to right CTRL in ~/.Xmodmap and it work fine until I swith keyboard layout (from one language to another) when it gets reverted to the way they  were before, then even when I return to english layout and/or try manually `xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap` it's still the same. Does anyone have suggestion on how to solve this or how to effectively map CTRL to right win/menu-key since I do not have
[09:26] <milaks> right CTRl?
[09:29] <milaks> Anyone?
[09:29] <NightBird> I don't
[09:29] <milaks> Fair enough, someone else?
[09:30] <rikkus> Hi, I just installed kubuntu for the first time - I'm on Edgy Eft
[09:31] <rikkus> I don't seem to be able to get help to appear in any KDE programs
[09:31] <rikkus> I set a tail on /var/log/Xorg.0.log and I see 3 messages the same every time I try to pull up help:
[09:32] <rikkus> AUDIT: Fri Mar  2 20:23:32 2007: 3838 X: client 27 rejected from local host
[09:33] <rikkus> I don't see how help can be rejected... surely it has the same auth as the running app?
[09:34] <rikkus> Ah... the running app I've been trying is Adept Manager... and that'll be running as root
[09:35] <Skrot> Hi, is there a easy way to upgrade ipw3945-drivers in ubuntu edgy?
[09:37] <blackmoon> someones get beryl (aiglx) + xwinwrap working?
[09:39] <dr0fnax> Anyone using Creative Audigy SE here?
[09:39] <chavo> blackmoon, afaik xwinwrap only works with xgl
[09:40] <blackmoon> chavo: ok thanks :)
[09:40] <chavo> it doesn't work for me here
[09:41] <louis_> nabend
[09:41] <blackmoon> chavo: do you know where i can get it?
[09:41] <saw2434> I'm having trouble installing kubuntu, it gets stuck at the partioning step when I click continue. I'm trying to install it on an external hard drive (which i defraged twice)
[09:42] <rikkus> When I use Adept installer and search for firefox, it's found, but greyed out - I can't see why.
[09:42] <blackmoon> chavo: sorry i've made a mistake
[09:42] <saw2434> anyone have any ideas?
[09:42] <chavo> blackmoon, can't remember where I got it from it's been so long
[09:43] <NightBird> rikkus, if you right click it can you select 'request install'?
[09:44] <rikkus> No menu appears when I right click it
[09:44] <NightBird> hm...
[09:44] <NightBird> are you running adept as a super user?
[09:44] <rikkus> Well, I was asked for my password before it came up
[09:44] <NightBird> kdesu adept_manager
[09:44] <NightBird> alright
[09:44] <NightBird> did you supply your password?
[09:44] <rikkus> so I presume that was kdesu
[09:44] <rikkus> yep
[09:44] <NightBird> it was
[09:44] <NightBird> hm...
[09:44] <NightBird> any errors pop up?
[09:45] <NightBird> is it only firefox that is grayed out?
[09:45] <rikkus> Well, if I browse through the KDE software, I see KNotes is installed and not greyed out ... but everything else is not installed and greyed out
[09:46] <AMSmith42> What should I use to listen to Internet radio?
[09:46] <rikkus> hmm
[09:46] <rikkus> if I choose Gnome from the combo, I see more KDE software (!)
[09:46] <bipolar> saw2434: hold on...
[09:46] <saw2434> thanks
[09:47] <rikkus> and if I browse around, Adept disappears (I presume it's crashing)
[09:47] <bipolar> saw2434: I think this is the bug I reported :)
[09:47] <bipolar> saw2434: installing edgy?
[09:47] <saw2434> yeah
[09:47] <saw2434> should i try an older version?
[09:47] <bipolar> no
[09:48] <bipolar> saw2434: lookup this, and see if it discribes your problem: https://launchpad.net/bugs/87418
[09:48] <rikkus> NightBird: yep, it appears that anything without a ticked box (presumably everything that's not installed) is greyed out
[09:48] <bipolar> saw2434: edgy uses qtparted, right?
[09:48] <saw2434> i believe so
[09:48] <bipolar> saw2434: ok... see if it's the same bug
[09:49] <rikkus> Wow, adept is very buggy :)
[09:49] <Cugel> Dudes, does anyone know KDEnlive? (video editing tool)
[09:49] <saw2434> Well I never really get an error, It just has the little "waiting" circle for +40 minutes
[09:49] <jake_> hi everybody im planning to install ubuntu from my kubuntu, any comments guys?
[09:50] <apokryphos> jake_: don't waste your time :P
[09:50] <bipolar> saw2434: yeah... when you're done with qtparted, don't close it. click next on the main install screen.
[09:50] <saw2434> so i should partition it separatly in qparted and then do the installation?
[09:51] <jake_> i mean is there any difference? the interface or what??
[09:51] <saw2434> before i was just letting the installation process do it
[09:52] <bipolar> saw2434: what I mean is, when the installer pops up qtparted, partiion the disks as usual, but don't close qtparted
[09:52] <Erunno> jake_: Ubuntu uses GNOME as the standard desktop.
[09:52] <bipolar> saw2434: if you close qtparted, the installer gets all confused. the installer will close it when you hit next in the installer window
[09:53] <jake_> sorry but im new to lynux world, anybody can send a link for beginners?
[09:53] <saw2434> bipolar: nothing really ever pops up, I get to the step where I click "Resize SCS13 (0,0,0), partion #1 (sdb) and use freed space"
[09:54] <bipolar> saw2434: you have scsi disks? maybe SATA?
[09:54] <AMSmith42> Cugel: Is KDEnlive any good?
[09:54] <bipolar> saw2434: sorry... it sounds like a diffrent problem then what I reported :(
[09:55] <jake_> guys?
[09:55] <kiki_> bonsoir a tous
[09:55] <saw2434> bipolar: its alright, thanks for your help. I don't think the disks are Sata
[09:55] <Erunno> jake: Try this: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/
[09:55] <Erunno> !fr | kiki_
[09:55] <ubotu> kiki_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:55] <kiki_> sorry
[09:56] <jake_> thanx
[09:56] <kiki_> mistake... :-)
[09:56] <bipolar> saw2434: thats strange... why would it be shown as a scsi disk then? (sd* is scsi, hd* is ide)
[09:56] <bipolar> in Feisty, all disks are shown as scsi for some odd reason, but edgy didn't do that....
[09:56] <Erunno> jake: I've never read it myself so I cannot vouch for it's quality.
[09:57] <saw2434> oh my bad
[09:57] <saw2434> so can scsi disks not be partioned in linux?
[09:59] <bipolar> saw2434: sure they can.
[09:59] <bipolar> saw2434: scsi disks are fine, it was just confusing :)
[09:59] <jake_> Erunno: its ok my problem is i cant modify my adept. it says  that another application is running i try to restart but nothing happens
[10:00] <saw2434> bipolar: oh. Well thanks again
[10:00] <bipolar> saw2434: all I can recomend is let the cd do a self check to make sure its ok. maybe try the alternitive install
[10:00] <zendoze> Hello, please can someone help me with this: I need to use different keyboard layouts in KDE but when I switch to some layout command which is executed (for example: setxkbmap -layout us,cs -variant ,yz) reverts back some other key mapping which I've with xmodmap. Can I somehow edit this command which is being executed when layout is changed or maybe a different way to retain my key mapping?
[10:00] <bipolar> crap
[10:01] <jake_> my problem is i cant modify my adept. it says  that another application is running i try to restart but nothing happens
[10:02] <Erunno> jake_: Ah, that's a known problem when an application crashes. Hmm, I forgot how to get rid of the database lock :-P
[10:02] <sampan> !adeptfix
[10:02] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:03] <Erunno> jake_: What the bot said. Thanks sampan
[10:03] <ferran_> hi all
[10:03] <ferran_> i need help
[10:03] <sampan> erunno  i can't ever remember that command either :D
[10:03] <ferran_> where i can fount help to make a munt
[10:03] <ferran_> ?
[10:03] <ferran_> mount
[10:03] <zendoze> Please, tell me and other ways if any. I do not have right CTRL key so I mapped it to win-key, and when I change layout (to no matter which) that is reverted to the way it was before.
[10:04] <Erunno> sampan: My memory = cheese :P
[10:04] <sampan> erunno  you and me both ... swiss cheese with holes large enough to drive small cars through here :/
[10:05] <zendoze> Anyone please??
[10:05] <jake_> it says: my problem is i cant modify my adept. it says  that another application is running i try to restart but nothing happens
[10:06] <jake_> sorry
[10:06] <jake_> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[10:06] <jhutchins> zendoze: the problem is that there's more than one app defining your keyboard.
[10:06] <jhutchins> zendoze: Don't know what the way around it would be.
[10:06] <jhutchins> zendoze: Google around for various ways to switch keyboard layout in kde.
[10:07] <crackhead> question: how do i make sure i am getting the most graphics processing power out of my graphics card with kubuntu?
[10:07] <jhutchins> zendoze: You might find that what it's doing when you switch is switching to the standard template, and what you might be able to do is to save your modified keyboard templates and switch between them.
[10:07] <zendoze> jhutchins: already did, but with no success. If I could just alter the command line that KDE is exetucing when switching layouts?
[10:08] <jhutchins> crackhead: Simple, you just measure the power you're getting out of it and see if it meets the manufacturer's claims.
[10:08] <crackhead> how do i measure?
[10:08] <jhutchins> zendoze: Probably not, but you could probably figure out a way to do it manually in X, then write a script to do it and use that instead.
[10:08] <kaner_> does anyone have any idea how to force apt to reinstall an app?
[10:09] <crackhead> i feel like it should work through a webpage faster, when i scroll down, instead of allowing me to see the refresh of every roll down click of the scroll wheel..
[10:09] <jhutchins> crackhead: Hook it up to a dynomometer.
[10:09] <crackhead> jhutchins, that's not helpful
[10:09] <jake_> anyone?
[10:09] <jhutchins> crackhead: Ah, there's a helpful bit of info: you feel it should scroll faster!  Ok, you can adjust the rate for the scroll wheel!
[10:09] <jhutchins> jake_: Hang on...
[10:10] <crackhead> the display/rendering rate, not the rate at which the scroll wheel moves the screen
[10:10] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix | jake_
[10:10] <ubotu> jake_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:11] <jhutchins> crackhead: If you switch to a lower resolution, does the scroll rendering improve?
[10:11] <crackhead> let me check..
[10:11] <Erunno> jake_: Have you tried "sudo dpkg -configure -a" in the command line ?
[10:11] <fulldisclosure> hi
[10:11] <fulldisclosure> whitch is default's video player for kubuntu?
[10:11] <Erunno> jake_: Err, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[10:12] <jake_> im tyring
[10:12] <Erunno> fulldisclosure: Kaffeine
[10:12] <crackhead> when i did that, why did it restart my kde session and close all my windows and not re-open them, but re-opened a previous kde session?
[10:13] <jhutchins> jake_: It might also be necessary/helpful to just manually delete the lockfile, but I'm not sure where that is...
[10:13] <sparkling> hi all
[10:13] <jhutchins> crackhead: Well, it restarted the previous session because you didn't save the current one, but not knowing how you changed resolution I don't know why it restarted.
[10:13] <fulldisclosure> ok
[10:13] <crackhead> still seems to be set at the same resolution, too, as if my change wasn't applied, although i clicked apply..
[10:13] <crackhead> did i have to first be in admin mode?
[10:14] <crackhead> system settings, display, screen size, lower resolution
[10:14] <crackhead> is that not what you meant by making it lower resolution?
[10:14] <crackhead> tell me how/what you meant
[10:14] <jhutchins> Ah.  Yes, probably need admin.
[10:14] <jake_> i did the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" sorry guys but i dont know what to do next im new to kuubuntu
[10:14] <jhutchins> I have krandrtray running, a little applet near the clock that lets me change res; most systems will also accept Ctrl-Alt-KpMinus
[10:15] <zendoze> And does anyone knows how to map CTRL to Win-Key with `setxkbmap`?
[10:15] <crackhead> what's a keystroke command to "save current kde session" so that it becomes the new auto-loaded one?
[10:16] <jhutchins> jake_: Did you do sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[10:16] <zendoze> "setxkbmap -option menu:ctrl" OR "setxkbmap -option win:ctrl" OR "setxkbmap -option alwin:ctrl" OR "setxkbmap -option ctrl:win" OR "setxkbmap -option ctrl:altwin", do not work?
[10:16] <jake_> yes
[10:16] <jhutchins> try sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:16] <jake_> i have paste it in the command
[10:18] <eagles0513875> :)
[10:18] <kaner_> how would one reinstall konsole?
[10:18] <eagles0513875> try adept pkg manager
[10:18] <eagles0513875> if u can kaner
[10:18] <hatta> apt-get install --reinstall konsole
[10:20] <kaner_> thanks, ill give it a try.
[10:20] <jake_> thanx guys everything's fine now
[10:21] <eagles0513875> i just typed in winecfg in konsole and for some reason oit said that it failed to open control panel and then eventually opened the control panel
[10:23] <jake_> one more how do you install  using adept?
[10:24] <kaner_> Hey, i tried youre suggestion on reinstalling konsole and it complained of "Reinstallation of konsole is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[10:25] <kaner_> what might that mean?
[10:28] <Erunno> jake_: Search for the package you want to install, mark it for installation (click the + on the left to see the button) and then apply changes in the toolbar.
[10:29] <Erunno> jake_: Synaptic is a bit more friendly interface-wise, so you might want to try out instead of Adept.
[10:29] <jake_> Erunno: thanx a lot man! you did it... lol
[10:30] <jake_> yes im looking for it
[10:30] <crackhead> what's a keystroke command to "save current kde session" so that it becomes the new auto-loaded one?
[10:30] <jhutchins> Could someone confirm something for me in kspread?
[10:31] <bentob0x> is there any official torrent download for kubuntu?
[10:31] <jhutchins> crackhead: Dunno, you could look in system settings/shortcuts.
[10:32] <jhutchins> bentob0x: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/
[10:35] <kulisek> anyone could help please?
[10:35] <kulisek> sudo wpa_supplicant -i ra0 -D wext -w -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:35] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported
[10:35] <kulisek> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x1 - ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] : Operation not supported
[10:35] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] : Operation not supported
[10:35] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x1 - CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received
[10:36] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> WEXT auth param 7 value 0x0 - Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
[10:36] <kulisek> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported
[10:36] <kulisek> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAP] : Bad address
[10:36] <kulisek> sorry for foo
[10:36] <kulisek> sorry for flood :(
[10:36] <Erunno> !pastebin | kulisek
[10:36] <ubotu> kulisek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:38] <fignew> kulisek: check out knetworkmanager, it does WPA
[10:38] <fignew> so you don't have to mess with wpa_supplicant
[10:39] <jhutchins> kulisek: Understand that most Freenode servers will drop you if you do that.
[10:40] <crackhead> what's a keystroke command to "save current kde session" so that it becomes the new auto-loaded one? it's not in system settings, shortcuts.
[10:40] <jake_> should i do the full upgrade the adept?
[10:41] <Erunno> jake_: Yes, it will install updates this way.
[10:43] <jake_> thanx again
[10:46] <kulisek> why can't I see my wlan in knetworkmanager? :(
[10:47] <fignew> give it a second
[10:47] <fignew> or, is it a hidden network?
[10:47] <jarn> How do I make KMail periodically check for new mail?
[10:47] <kulisek> nope is visible
[10:47] <Cugel> kulisek: check /etc/interfaces   -- knetworkmanager doesn't like that file one bit. Caveat: I never got knetworkmanager to work.
[10:48] <fignew> jarn: under accounts
[10:48] <fignew> Settings-->configure Kmail
[10:49] <jarn> fignew: I found it. Thanks.
[10:49] <fignew> Accounts-->select your account-->modify, then look at the bottom
[10:49] <fignew> :)
[10:49] <jarn> fignew: :D
[10:49] <kulisek> only wired network :(
[10:50] <fignew> I remember when I was trying to get kmail to have an icon in the systray... took me forever to find the option
[10:51] <kulisek> Cugel: what should hve been changed in /etc/networking/interfaces to knetworkmanager see my wifi?!
[10:51] <jarn> fignew: Do you know how to make mail automatically go through one mail or another? I have two accounts, and I set up POP and SMTP for both. And I set up two identities. But no matter which identity I mail with, ithey both go through one email account.
[10:52] <kulisek> pllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeaseeeeee
[10:52] <fignew> hmm jarn, sounds like a bug
[10:52] <jarn> fignew: :(
[10:53] <fignew> you're selecting which account you want to send the email from when you compose the email?
[10:53] <jarn> fignew: The identity, yes. But if I send it from either identity, it goes through the same email. To send it through my other one I have to manually do "Send Via"
[10:54] <kulisek> f**k this channe;
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[10:54] <kulisek> d'bx
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[10:54] <kulisek> ;b n
[10:54] <kulisek> c;lkb
[10:54] <fignew> lol, mature
[10:54] <kulisek> zckvb;zd
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[10:54] <kulisek> 0RY-0A3W4
[10:54] <|lostbyte|> !ops
[10:54] <kulisek> y=0Z+)6y9z
[10:54] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[10:54] <kulisek> 469ze
[10:54] <kulisek> -40y6z
[10:54] <kulisek> -edy7ze5
[10:54] <Cugel> kulisek: maybe you can copy the file to a backup file and remove it. Just to check.
[10:54] <kulisek> -y0ze0yz
[10:54] <kulisek> d y
[10:54] <fignew> czech, mature
[10:54] <kulisek> zd-0t u
[10:54] <Cugel> And shut up, please.
[10:54] <kulisek> -ez0u-zr0dtu
[10:54] <Chousuke> wtf.
[10:54] <kulisek> 0zdyae04
[10:54] <kulisek> 5y0ae
[10:54] <kulisek> y-0fd
[10:54] <kulisek> -0h
[10:55] <kulisek> :DDD
[10:55] <Chousuke> Idiot.
[10:55] <kulisek> no kick?
[10:55] <Chousuke> Get out.
[10:55] <Erunno> Enraged 12-years old, watch out !
[10:55] <kulisek> I am no czech kokotI!!!
[10:55] <kulisek>  ls'dgldfh
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[10:55] <kulisek> zdf
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[10:55] <kulisek> xfg
[10:55] <louis_> wtf
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[10:55] <kulisek> [cpknz[
[10:55] <kulisek> d nb
[10:55] <jarn> Where are all the ops?
[10:55] <kulisek> zfkgn[pzhfkgh
[10:55] <kulisek> [pz dft
[10:55] <eddy> hi everyone
[10:55] <kulisek> h[ pezs
[10:55] <kulisek> 5 ya
[10:55] <kulisek> -ey
[10:55] <Chousuke> eddy: hi
[10:55] <kulisek> -aeryawe4y a
[10:56] <kulisek> ] w4 6ya] ew-yhef] oer
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[10:56] <kulisek> yv[evyu
[10:56] <kulisek> [q34yq[34
[10:56] <eddy> I need some help
[10:56] <kulisek> 5y7vq3[
[10:56] <kulisek> 4p v6
[10:56] <heinkel_111> put an ignore on him :)
[10:56] <Chousuke> !ops
[10:56] <kulisek> q34 6vq3[v6 q34pv6 q
[10:56] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[10:56] <Cugel> What the hell.
[10:56] <Erunno> eddy: Hi Eddy, our service is disrupted at the moment. ;-)
[10:56] <jarn> Ah, I forgot I could ignore.
[10:56] <jarn> That's nice. :D
[10:56] <heinkel_111> 22:57]  [Ignore]  Added kulisek!* to your ignore list.
[10:56] <Cugel> He stopped. Kulisek: I answered you.
[10:56] <jarn> Agreed.
[10:56] <Chousuke> heh.
[10:56] <jarn> Well, he's not getting an unignore from me.
[10:57] <Chousuke> I with there were a generic idiot ignore flag :(
[10:57] <jarn> Meanwhile, I'm going to go do some stuff.
[10:57] <Cugel> Good riddance.
[10:57] <Chousuke> Well, at least he left.
[10:58] <fignew> jarn: so you're in the inbox of the 2nd mail account, and you want kmail to send it from the 2nd account's SMTP?
[10:58] <eddy> so, can I ask a question?
[10:58] <Chousuke> eddy: go ahead.
[10:58] <eddy> I have a problem with my surround system
[10:58] <eddy> I have 5.1
[10:59] <eddy> And I set that up in Amarok
[10:59] <tmbest> sera a trutti e tutte
[10:59] <n8k99> !it
[10:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:59] <eddy> but I can't heat the other speakers, only the 2 main, stereo
[10:59] <tmbest> thanks
[10:59] <eddy> any idea?
[11:00] <tmbest> good time
[11:00] <fignew> eddy: I know
[11:00] <fignew> go into kmix
[11:00] <eddy> kmix?
[11:00] <fignew> the speaker icon in the systray
[11:01] <eddy> yes
[11:01] <eddy> go on
[11:01] <fignew> do you have any tabs in the mixer window?
[11:01] <eddy> w8
[11:04] <eddy> well, I tried, but I didn't make it
[11:04] <eddy> I have 3 tabs
[11:04] <eddy> Output, Input, and Switches
[11:04] <eddy> or do you think I need to restart Amarok?
[11:06] <eddy> fignew?
[11:08] <nono_> salut
[11:08] <fignew> sorry
[11:09] <fignew> eddy: go to switches
[11:09] <nono_> hi
[11:09] <eddy> ok
[11:09] <fignew> what options do you have?
[11:09] <eddy> I have some options on left
[11:09] <eddy> on right I have:
[11:09] <eddy> Surround Jack Mode
[11:09] <eddy> Mic Select
[11:10] <eddy> IEC958 Playback SRC
[11:10] <eddy> Mono Output Select
[11:10] <eddy> Channel Mode
[11:10] <eddy> Inputs...
[11:10] <fignew> hmm
[11:10] <fignew> ok
[11:10] <fignew> there's one more step
[11:10] <eddy> I already set thaat to 6channel
[11:10] <fignew> before this
[11:11] <eddy> go on
[11:11] <fignew> in Amarok: settings --> configure amarok --> Engine
[11:11] <eddy> I already set that to 6 channel
[11:11] <Shadowtester> well I have to get going again the weekend is about to start :)
[11:12] <fignew> ok
[11:12] <fignew> play something in amarok
[11:12] <eddy> ar anything else?
[11:12] <fignew> and fiddle with the switches in kmix
[11:12] <ubuntu> ja hallo erstmal
[11:12] <fignew> very technical ;)
[11:12] <eddy> how did you mean that, very technical?
[11:12] <fignew> it's a joke
[11:13] <eddy> I saw that smiley... :D
[11:13] <eddy> fiddle - means to try out the combination of those switches?
[11:14] <fignew> yes
[11:14] <eddy> I'm not English...
[11:14] <eddy> :-)
[11:14] <fignew> I understand
[11:14] <eddy> what the Output plugin in Amarok, under the Engine tab?
[11:15] <Haribo> sagt mal was
[11:15] <crackhead> how does one save current kde session so that it becomes the new auto-loaded session?
[11:15] <dario> when I start adept and try to look for new programs/updates to install, it doesnt show anything, only already installed programs. How do I fix this?
[11:15] <fignew> eddy: if you want you can try arts
[11:16] <fignew> but the automatic should work
[11:16] <eddy> ok, thx
[11:16] <fignew> did messing with the switches not work?
[11:17] <Haribo> kann hier jemand deutsch schreiben???
[11:17] <fignew> Haribo #ubuntu-de
[11:18] <fignew> ich kann, aber du soltz da gehen (spelling?)
[11:18] <eddy> I'm still trying
[11:18] <Haribo> danke, und tsch
[11:18] <fignew> oder
[11:18] <fignew> #kubuntu-de
[11:18] <dario> when I start adept and try to look for new programs/updates to install, it doesnt show anything, only already installed programs. anyone knows if this is a common bug or what the problem is?
[11:19] <Haribo> i see. thank you
[11:19] <fignew> eddy: let's try something else
[11:19] <eddy> hmmm
[11:19] <intelikey> "common bug"   heh  pebcak most likely
[11:19] <eddy> I you knou something else
[11:20] <intelikey> dario put your sources.list on pastebin  lets have a look.
[11:22] <fignew> eddy, hmm I'm not sure
[11:22] <fignew> I did it on my home computer
[11:22] <fignew> but I'm at school right now
[11:22] <dario> unfortunately you will have to guide me intelikey, I just installed kubuntu for the first time so im new at this
[11:23] <eddy> how old are you, fignew?
[11:23] <intelikey> !repos | dario
[11:23] <tesuki__> when I open a fullscreen game is there a way to make a separate xserver instans for it? so isntead of making the desktop inaccessible I can accecs it on ctrl+alt+F8 is this possible?
[11:23] <ubotu> dario: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:23] <fignew> 19 :)
[11:23] <eddy> hmm
[11:23] <eddy> I'm 17 :-)
[11:23] <intelikey> dario visit that link  ^   ubotu posted.
[11:23] <dario> ok
[11:24] <fignew> good times :)
[11:24] <eddy> couldn't this be caused by the Linux
[11:24] <eddy> I have 64-bit, installed from CD...
[11:24] <eddy> yeah, gold young times...
[11:25] <intelikey> tesuki__ sure it is.  but the easy way would be start another session pre-game and run the game in the main session.
[11:25] <eddy> I know some functions are missing, because they couldn't fit them on the CD
[11:25] <fignew> eddy: no, surroundsound support is included :)
[11:26] <eddy> hmmm
[11:26] <intelikey> tesuki__ only thing you need to watch out for is, switching back and forth may corrupt the display and the game show garbage   or the game grabing the ctrl+alt hot keys...
[11:26] <eddy> that makes it a bit more strange
 jarn: so you're in the inbox of the 2nd mail account, and you want kmail to send it from the 2nd account's SMTP? <--- Yes
[11:27] <fignew> ahh, I see... it's setup not to do that, because it could get confusing if you didn't know about the feature
[11:28] <eddy> who are you talking to, fignew?
[11:28] <fignew> jarn
[11:28] <jarn> So there's no way to make it automatically send the mail with the account's inbox that I'm in?
[11:28] <jarn> I have to manually change it from the default every time?
[11:29] <eddy> jarn can create 2 IDs, and then simply choose which one he wants, or?
[11:29] <pierre_> is kubuntu feisty stable?
[11:29] <fignew> yes, but he wants it to be automatic
[11:29] <jarn> Yes.
[11:29] <intelikey> pierre_ define stable
[11:29] <eddy> the choosing?
[11:29] <jarn> Yeah.
[11:30] <pierre_> would you recommend it for everyday use?
[11:30] <intelikey> pierre_ it's not released yet.
[11:30] <eddy> how can system find out, what you want?
[11:30] <jarn> By the identity I have selected.
[11:30] <intelikey> pierre_ short answer.   no.
[11:30] <fignew> eddy: depending on what inbox you're in
[11:30] <Josh1337> hi room, i need some help with getting mp3 plaback on 6.06.1
[11:30] <jarn> I want one identity to send through one account and one identity to send through the other.
[11:30] <eddy> pierre: it is for everyday use
[11:30] <fignew> jarn: you could try to ask in #kontact
[11:30] <jarn> fignew: Thanks.
[11:31] <intelikey> eddy you running feisty ?
[11:31] <eddy> well, one ID would have one account, one mailbox, one in- and out- box
[11:31] <heinkel_111> hi i am running an Xming xserver on my windows machine and I have logged onto my kubuntu machine using PuTTy which is an ssh client for windows. Does anyone know how to start the KMenu and my standard KDE from the command line?
[11:31] <heinkel_111> I have konsole running  :)
[11:31] <fignew> I never found selecting the right account from the dropdown menu to be a big deal
[11:31] <heinkel_111> but I want my menus
[11:31] <Josh1337> help with mp3 plugin
[11:31] <fignew> heinkel_111: that's asking for trouble
[11:32] <muuhBDXi> !seen manuel_
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen manuel_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <heinkel_111> how&
[11:32] <eddy> feisty is what? a sub-distro of Ubuntu?
[11:32] <heinkel_111> fignew: how troulbe?
[11:32] <muuhBDXi> idiots
[11:32] <fignew> heinkel_111: 1 sec
[11:32] <intelikey> !feisty | eddy
[11:32] <ubotu> eddy: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:32] <heinkel_111> eddy: feisty is the development version of (k)ubuntu
[11:32] <muuhBDXi>  ] [4lastor] [ are you a criminal stalker ?
[11:32] <jarn> eddy: The newest version.
[11:33] <eddy> well, no, I'm not running that, I'm running Edgy Eft
[11:33] <intelikey> jarn no.  the next.    it's not new yet.
[11:33] <pierre_> lmao
[11:33] <muuhBDXi>  ] [4lastor] [ suck my dick biatch
[11:33] <muuhBDXi> nono_ suck my dick asshole
[11:33] <Josh1337> plz i need help with mp3 playback
[11:33] <jarn> intelikey: That's what I meant.
[11:34] <intelikey> pierre_ now you see why i asked eddy to explain "<eddy> pierre: it is for everyday use"
[11:34] <eddy> but Kubuntu is for eveyrday use,
[11:34] <eddy> :D
[11:34] <fignew> heinkel_111: well, if you start up KDE, it'll try to detect resolution (might be trouble in windows), draw icons on the desktop, draw the desktop BG
[11:34] <eddy> then sorry guys...
[11:34] <intelikey> eddy he asked about feisty.  not generic (any version) kubuntu
[11:35] <heinkel_111> fignew: yes, in a way you are right, but it should be possible to get the Kpanel running?
[11:35] <eddy> and what's the differences among those dev version?
[11:35] <fignew> eddy, feisty is the testing version of kubuntu
[11:35] <eddy> versions*
[11:35] <heinkel_111> anything for testing is not stable :=
[11:35] <fignew> eddy: its not as stable, new software, new features
[11:36] <dario> cad adept download and install update-manager?
[11:36] <dario> can*
[11:36] <intelikey> eddy one not released yet one current the rest 'old' releases.
[11:36] <fignew> sorry heinkel, don't know how to start it
[11:37] <Mena> Hi
[11:38] <dario> can someone tell me how I can install update-manager on kubuntu? it cant be found in adept
[11:39] <fignew> dario: it's built in
[11:39] <dario> fignew: in kubuntu?
[11:40] <dario> the thing is, im trying to follow a guide on how to upgrade dapper to edgy, and it sais that its easiest to use update-manager, but according to my kubuntu I dont havei t
[11:40] <fignew> it's called adept-updater
[11:41] <pierre_> adept sucks though :(
[11:41] <dario> ok, so do you have a guide on howto upgrade to edgy using adept?
[11:41] <pierre_> it can probably be done with apt-get/aptitude
[11:41] <the_hammer> is there any programs or anything available to run webcams ?
[11:42] <fignew> the_hammer: yes
[11:42] <fignew> depends on what you want to do with the webcam though
[11:42] <the_hammer> i checked usb devices in kinfo center and cam seems to be ok
[11:42] <dario> fignew or pierre_: do you have a guide on howto upgrade dapper to edgy?
[11:42] <the_hammer> take pics and make vids
[11:43] <the_hammer> mabe even also do live web stuff
[11:43] <the_hammer> i just wasnna see it working for now
[11:43] <pierre_> dario: sorry, better try google
[11:43] <dario> already tried :(
[11:43] <boxxertrumps> so...
[11:43] <fignew> I've always done apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <boxxertrumps> i forgot my SU pass
[11:44] <eddy> fignew: how long do you have Linux?
[11:44] <fignew> might not be the preferred method though
[11:44] <fignew> eddy: since 2001
[11:44] <fignew> RH 7.2
[11:44] <roland17> not in french?
[11:44] <fignew> first distro :)
[11:44] <eddy> when you were 13?
[11:44] <the_hammer> fignew any ideas for what i should get?
[11:44] <kimmern> Hey! I've got some trouble with my Conexant hd audio...the sound only comes out of my laptop speakers..even when I put in headphones..anyone know how to solve?
[11:44] <pierre_> dario: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades there you go, look under "Upgrading using apt-get -- NOT RECOMMENDED"
[11:44] <fignew> 1 sec the_hammer
[11:44] <the_hammer> ok
[11:45] <fignew> lol
[11:45] <dario> ok thx
[11:45] <roland17> pas de franais ici?
[11:46] <fignew> the_hammer: there's alot of different programs, search adept for webcam
[11:46] <the_hammer> ok
[11:46] <eddy> fignew: have you ever had an OS from Microsoft?
[11:46] <pierre_> When i open a program from a terminal i always get this error messege: http://pastebin.ca/379013
[11:46] <eddy> sorry - Microsucks* ?
[11:46] <fignew> eddy: sure I have
[11:47] <Dmitrij> Oui? Roland17
[11:47] <eddy> fignew: but you always preferred GNU?
[11:47] <fignew> eddy: mostly I suppose
[11:48] <eddy> fignew: and now, you're a Linux Pro, do you program in any language?
[11:48] <fignew> lol, not a pro
[11:48] <fignew> I program python, that's all
[11:48] <eddy> I knew you'll say that
[11:49] <pierre_> :I
[11:49] <eddy> fignew: Wow... and where are you from?
[11:49] <prak> !cp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <prak> does anyone know how to copy contents of directory a into directory b?
[11:50] <fignew> eddy: Atlanta Georgia
[11:50] <pierre_> hey you linux pro's :p do you know why i get this error messege when trying to run a program from a terminal? http://pastebin.ca/379013
[11:50] <jay> kooka doesn't detect the right scanner for me.. i have a benq and it's detects an acer. Secondly, it keeps sayin I need to install "sane".. I installed sane, libkscan1 and nothing changed... plz help
[11:51] <eddy> ok guys, I'm leaving, have a nice rest of the day (if there's any rest :-) )
[11:51] <eddy> bye!
[11:51] <fignew> yea, pierre_, easy ;)
[11:52] <fignew> remove the touchpad stuff in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:52] <pierre_> lol.. i dont even have a touchpad
[11:52] <prak> does anyone know how to copy contents of directory a into directory b?
[11:52] <fignew> pierre_: exactly, that's why it's making an error
[11:52] <Dmitrij> Prak: just gain to rootaccount and copy paste
[11:53] <pierre_> fignew: why does it think that i have one?
[11:53] <prak> Dmitrij: how do i gain to rootaccount in kubuntu?
[11:53] <fignew> pierre_: dunno, it's the ubuntu default to have it in the X11 config
[11:53] <pierre_> fignew: i only got it when i installed KDE lol
[11:54] <fignew> prak: cp a/* b/
[11:54] <fignew> pierre_: yes, it's KDE complaining that it can't access the input device
[11:54] <_Daisuke_Ido_> hmm...  ubuntu servers seem a tad slow
[11:54] <_Daisuke_Ido_> feisty herd 5 get released?
[11:55] <fignew> _Daisuke_Ido_: yes
[11:55] <_Daisuke_Ido_> that explains it
[11:55] <Mena> heinkel_111, you have the kdm running
[11:55] <pierre_> fignew: ok. damn i really like KDE. everything isnt all big
[11:56] <fignew> pierre_: you can remove that part of the config
[11:56] <fignew> and the error goes away
[11:57] <Mena> heinkel_111, the xorgserver as i guess
[11:57] <pierre_> fignew: so i figured. thanks
[11:57] <heinkel_111> Mena: yes , the xorg server is running
[11:58] <Mena> heinkel_111, ok
[12:07] <boxxertrumps> does anyone know how to reset the root password?
[12:08] <grego> lolz
[12:08] <grego> >__>
[12:08] <grego> me not
[12:08] <boxxertrumps> ...
[12:08] <boxxertrumps> not helping...
[12:08] <grego> make[3] : *** [amule]  Error 1
[12:08] <grego> sweet...
[12:08] <boxxertrumps> i need to install yum.
[12:09] <vlt|home> boxxertrumps: There's no root passwd in Ubuntu standard install.
[12:09] <boxxertrumps> i have kubuntu
[12:09] <vlt|home> !sudo | boxxertrumps
[12:09] <ubotu> boxxertrumps: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:09] <boxxertrumps> does that make a difference?
[12:09] <grego> O__o
[12:09] <grego> o__O
[12:09] <grego> --__--''
[12:10] <boxxertrumps> thanks
[12:10] <vlt|home> Hello. Sometimes when trying to download a file with Konqueror it opens in kate. How can I avoid this and get a "save to" dialof instead?
[12:10] <vlt|home> s/dialof/dialog/
[12:11] <grego> i have problem like that also..
[12:11] <vlt|home> I experienced this both on Dapper and Edgy.
[12:11] <grego> feisty here
[12:12] <vlt|home> Rightclick -> save as doesn't work either, it stores just a few bytes of a "deferer file". Any idea?