=== eXistenZ [n=existenz@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] g'night all [12:17] gn8 tsmithe === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.223] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] imbrandon: would it be possible to have feisty and debian deb-src on the build machines? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wolfeon [n=wolfeon@alpha.wolfeon.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] well I dislike asking the same question on another channel, but I asked in the wrong channel :)) [12:51] cjwatson: this is free software though. Isn't the point of Ubuntu to make the distrobution the best user oritented there is? the author's rant is nothing but flame bait/a troll. [12:51] oops [12:51] I've a question about regulations and policies about software included in Ubuntu [12:51] wolfeon, what is the text of the rant? [12:52] Shouldn't an author's personal rants be taken out of software when available to the user? [12:52] xchm for instance, the guy goes on the "use gpl, anyone else is ignorant" spreee [12:52] "If you'd like to use the code in your own stuff please figure GPL out first. Far too many people think GPL is bad out of utter ignorance. === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] it is nice xchm was developed, but I use it all day. The rant, *and* start up text in the splash screen gets rather annoying [12:53] The author is entitled to his opinion, and I don't think removing (perfectly good) advice is worth carrying a delta from Debian. [12:54] the author's copyright could go in the about box. It would be better if the start up content was blank [12:54] File a bug with upstream, perhaps? [12:54] universe bugs are filed on launchpad too? [12:54] Correct. [12:54] alright [12:54] Upstream is probably the best place to contact, however. [12:54] I'll submit a patch as well === bryce [n=bryce@c-24-20-224-228.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] I highly doubt the fellow will accept the patch [12:55] I constantly patch my system programs against default content in programs in order for the programs to be more friendly at startup. They not only look more friendly, they look clean! [12:56] 30 lines of copyright and rant is plain silly === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] yay, I could rant sooo at rants *g* === bryce [n=bryce@c-24-20-224-228.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.145] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-077-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-200-112.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena_ [n=caravena@62-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon24448.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] Hey guys [01:02] Hello mjb [01:02] heya rmjb [01:02] a package i did has the dependencies wrong === ajmitch rants about rants about rants [01:03] rmjb: and you want to fix it? [01:03] so I just file a bug in launchpad, attach a deb diff and subscribe motu-sponsors? [01:03] ubuntu-universe-sponsors [01:03] I'm fixing it, just getting the process [01:03] cool [01:03] ajmitch: who is worse, someone who rants, or someone who rants about rants? ;) === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-150-224-205.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] ajmitch: can I blog about bloggers who rant against ranters? [01:04] lol [01:05] go ahead === rmjb head spins [01:05] anyone wanting to review my anounce-ment mail about motu applications? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8149/ [01:05] -- [01:06] arg... line 15 sounds bad [01:07] LaserJock: btw.: now it's time to blog about it ;) [01:07] heh === TwoPints [n=frank@ACBD80EB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] sistpoty: you didn't tell them about the grilling they can expect? ;) [01:08] ajmitch: that'll be a surprise ;) === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] excellent... === ajmitch needs to modify his procmail rules now [01:10] kmail has a menu entry to set up a filter based on a mailing list. one of the very few occasions I really like to have a mouse around *G* [01:10] I hate KMail... Probably mostly because its IMAP support is terrible. [01:11] Fujitsu: send patches === ajmitch should probably move all the earlier MC discussions we had into that folder [01:11] and no.. dpkg -r kmail is not a patch [01:11] it's better than anything I've used in the past (netscape and erm... older kmail *g*) === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-200-112.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ajmitch tends not to use imap much [01:12] except for work mail, with thunderbird === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] back to topic... any corrections for the mail I'm about to send? === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] CCing sponsors [01:14] ah, right [01:14] so that we get them into the discussion [01:14] & can grill them [01:14] hehe [01:15] we should keep sponsors CCed [01:15] hm, maybe, maybe not [01:15] but CCing on the initial mail is required [01:16] was the TB notified after our first meeting? [01:16] not quite sure actually [01:16] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8152/ [01:17] hey, look at that. xchm without rants :)) [01:17] sistpoty: looks better [01:17] ajmitch: yes, crimsun CC'd TB [01:17] (for the minutes) [01:18] ajmitch: ok, out it goes :) === wolfeon [n=wolfeon@alpha.wolfeon.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:19] boy, I sure wish Ubuntu was rant-free :-) === TwoPints [n=frank@ACBD80EB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] said the king ;) === daviey [n=dave1111@unaffiliated/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] oh hey LaserJock [01:20] that was rather interesting [01:20] btw, while i'm fixing this dependency thing on my package, should I change the maintainer field? [01:20] it's somewhat of a point to try to keep apps clean [01:20] Hi, what web-space can i use for a launchpad registered product for ubuntu using bazaar? === TwoPints [n=frank@ACBD80EB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] daviey: use bazaar.launchpad.net [01:21] hi zul [01:21] LaserJock, makes sense eh. thanks === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] anybody using dapper? [01:27] guess not [01:29] pochu: got it installed on my laptop (needed to test a sru), but I don't actually use it ;) [01:29] sistpoty: asac has a problem with a security update breaking some stuff in dapper ;) [01:30] not quite sure if I can help... got a bug number? [01:30] sistpoty: sure, are you in #ubuntu-bugs? === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.171] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@bas2-montrealak-1177634590.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] Heya gang [01:39] hi [01:39] hi [01:39] hey bddebian [01:39] Hi ajmitch, tonyyarusso, rmjb [01:40] So, I started reading a C textbook last night. Maybe I'll learn to understand a handful of code after all. [01:40] C syntax is fairly easy to pick up, it's putting it all together that gets tough :-( [01:41] How so? [01:41] bddebian: I agree [01:41] I've read the books [01:41] tonyyarusso: Macros, linking, etc etc [01:41] but it's very difficult to just open some code and start hacking away [01:42] I can understand basic input/output stuff fine - I usually get lost when they try to do something actually useful :P [01:42] I hear ya [01:43] bddebian: pointers are fun! [01:43] ugg [01:43] pointers aren't bad [01:43] pointers to functions with macros SUCK :-) [01:43] heh [01:43] pointers seem to be chapter 12 - I've done up through 4. [01:44] c. a convenient way to write asm that's not CPU specific in most cases :) [01:44] What do you folks have to say about editors/IDEs/etc? [01:44] hehe [01:44] tonyyarusso: emacs > * [01:44] emacs? [01:44] tonyyarusso: vim :P [01:44] ajmitch: It's also a two-day download..... [01:45] tonyyarusso: don't open that can worm while I am here :) [01:45] can of worm* [01:45] sistpoty: shall we settle it outside? ;) [01:45] sistpoty: that's what I've looked at so far, since it's pre-installed and small [01:45] cage fight? [01:45] haha [01:45] sistpoty: I'd prefer beers [01:45] hehe [01:45] I wanted to just intall a bunch and try them out, but emacs and eclipse are both friggin' HUGE [01:45] first one under the table? ;) [01:45] sure ;) [01:45] tonyyarusso: I've heard decent things about anjuta [01:46] tonyyarusso: I've also used eclipse a little bit... if you like to use the mouse it's pretty neat [01:46] tonyyarusso: and eric is nice for python [01:46] tonyyarusso: really, choosing an editor is just a matter of taste and what you intend doing [01:46] bddebian: also huge [01:47] all ya need is nano ;-P [01:47] Okay, why are all of these apt-get sizes measured in MBs? I can't just download MBs worth willy nilly here. [01:47] KB much preferred. [01:48] vi? [01:48] because you want something useful [01:48] vim > * [01:48] bddebian: That's what I've been using for lots of stuff. Probably will stick with a combo of vim and nano for now... [01:48] vim > *, emacs > /dev/null [01:49] (actually I've never used emacs, but vim is cool :)) [01:49] you've never used emacs?!? [01:49] you gotta at least try it [01:49] Noooo [01:49] You [01:49] (defun religious-sacrifice () (interactive) (mapc (lambda (x) (shell-command (concat "rm " x)) (message "All hail emacs!!!")) (cdr (split-string (shell-command-to-string "whereis vi"))))) [01:49] 'll be scarred forever [01:50] Adri2000: resist the temptation ;) [01:50] I use both quite often [01:50] haha theCore [01:50] it's good to at least be familiar with both so if you're stuck somewhere with only one or the other it's ok [01:51] theCore: With so many parentheses, that's got to be Lisp. [01:51] Fujitsu: of course, it is Lisp [01:51] Urgh. [01:51] (I like programming with an Abstract Syntax Tree :-) [01:52] well, I know already ~5% of vim's features, I don't want to learn that many stuff for emacs again :) [01:52] sistpoty: 5% of emacs' features is the whole editor ;) [01:53] hehe === theCore_ [n=user@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] emacs == kitchen sink [01:53] see I can even do IRC with Emacs :P [01:53] and we love it [01:53] Is it worth trying to fix the compiz-extra package, which FTBFS? It should be fairly easy to file a bug with a debdiff that fixes it. [01:53] it's an editor for real hackers [01:54] (ok, back to work...) [01:54] RAOF: sure, why not? [01:55] which operating system do you use? (O) ubuntu dapper (O) ubuntu edgy (O) ubuntu feisty (O) emacs === theCore_ is now known as theCore [01:56] ajmitch: Well, because no-one seems to have done it, and it's been FTBFS for ages. I was just wondering whether there was a reason no-one had done it. [01:57] There's a compiz-extra on REVU, is that different? [01:57] Yes. === Fujitsu looks with despair at the (almost) 5k MOTU bugs. [01:58] Fujitsu: Bah, YOU can handle it :) [01:58] seb uploaded a compiz-extra package, which wasn't quite the one on REVU. That one can probably be archived, though. [01:58] Fujitsu: that's fairly low, actually [01:59] ajmitch: Compared to what? [02:00] Fujitsu: if you include all the bugs against no package [02:00] Fujitsu: Compared to ajmitch's mad sk1llz [02:02] so helpful [02:03] that's me :) === Lathiat_ [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndrewB [n=andy@tuxhacker/pdpc.supporter.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] Hey guys, anyone ever stumbled across the following error message while pbuildering? [02:27] Merging translations into build/share/themes/UbuntuStudio/index.theme. [02:27] syntax error at line 1, column 0, byte 0 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/Parser.pm line 187 === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off to bed now [02:32] gn8 everyone === AndrewB [n=andy@tuxhacker/pdpc.supporter.student.AndrewB] has left #ubuntu-motu ["freenode/#tuxhacker] [02:41] Hmm RL work or break something in Ubuntu.. [02:42] boo [02:42] hahah [02:42] speak of the devil LaserJock ^^ [02:42] Heya nixternal [02:42] bddebian: I say boo all the time now, and someone asked if that is my way of saying hi in #ubuntu-docs [02:42] hehe [02:43] I GOT IT FROM THAT STINKING BDDEBIAN GUY === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] muhehe [02:43] Glad I'm having some impact ;-P [02:43] true [02:43] man, the FSF put up a pretty decent article on hardware free from restrictions === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@62-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] Is 0.10.10 to 0.10.11 of a native package considered a new upstream version? [03:39] not really, since it's native :-) [03:40] That was my thought but wanted to make sure [03:40] it's a new version; run it past the LP motu-uvf team if you're unsure [03:41] Gah [03:41] I can give you a short opinion if you'll say which source package [03:42] module-assistant [03:42] I was gonna look at the u-u-s bug for it but Debian has a newer version also [03:42] that's essentially a bug fix [03:43] Aye [03:43] file a UVF exception request, let me know the bug # , and I'll ACK it [03:43] Gah, what a PITA :-) [03:43] [it's pretty much a no-brainer ACK] [03:44] if it really needs 2 ACKs, you can always buy me beer === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.206] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Damn, of course his diff doesn't apply against 0.10.11 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] hello Hobbsee [03:53] hey ajmitch [03:55] excellent, samba 3.0.25pre1 [03:56] ajmitch: gotten all the u-u-s done yet? [03:57] no, I'm leaving that up to you while I go away for the weekend [03:57] I delegate [03:58] We need a way to keep the (Debian) bugs from showing up, it's damn irritating :) [03:58] hah [03:58] bddebian: yes, exactly :) === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] crimsun: Is this even worth filing? [04:04] or you can just upload [04:04] since you've got 2 ACKs on irc [04:04] bddebian: right, what ajmitch stated === ajmitch is happy to see that his dapper setup at linode just got its resources (RAM/diskspace) doubled for free [04:05] But it would be a straight sync without the patch on LP that doesn't apply against 0.10.11 [04:05] bddebian: that's fine [04:05] hello LaserJock [04:07] hi ajmitch === bddebian is confused [04:07] Heya LaserJock [04:08] bddebian: why? [04:08] bddebian: you know how to file sync requests === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] how much time does it take for a package to be published, after it been uploaded to the archive? [04:17] might take a while [04:17] we have Herd5 freeze at the moment [04:18] Gah, forget this stupid package [04:18] ah ok, thanks LaserJock [04:18] btw, LaserJock are you still using my Emacs package? [04:20] theCore: is it a new package? [04:21] Hobbsee: new? Emacs or for the publishing thing? [04:21] [14:17] how much time does it take for a package to be published, after it been uploaded to the archive? === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] Hobbsee: yeah, I was looking at supertux-stable [04:21] theCore: so probably the publishing thing. that'll have to go thru NEW [04:21] so, ages [04:22] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89110 [04:22] Malone bug 89110 in Ubuntu "Too Many Unresolved Bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:22] Hobbsee: at least, it is on Launchpad... [04:22] Gah Dapper->Edgy->Feisty ought to be "fun" on this slow-arse laptop :-( [04:22] theCore: true. an archive admin will have to accept it though, which is the long part [04:22] Hobbsee: Nice bug :-) [04:22] Hobbsee: that's a useful bug [04:22] oh yes. [04:22] does someone want to reject that? [04:22] "This site is accessible by launchpad admins and members of the Launchpad Beta Testers team only." sigh... [04:22] Hobbsee: do you need to take a step back from the keyboard before replying? [04:23] ajmitch: no, dont think so. might just tell him about the bug squad, and to feel free to help out, rather than whinging about it. [04:23] Hobbsee: I certainly don't think I could be diplomatic in replying :) === Hobbsee checks what other bugs he's reporte [04:23] d [04:25] bddebian: got dapper's evolution on there now? [04:25] I think LaserJock should reply. He is the king of diplomacy :) [04:25] heh [04:25] Hobbsee: asac would love to have people reproduce & get some info about the evolution issue [04:25] Hobbsee: I'm just installing Dapper now, why do you need something? [04:26] bddebian: https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/89106 [04:26] Malone bug 89106 in evolution "camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:26] ajmitch: true [04:26] Hobbsee: reassign it to evolution & mark it as duplicate, please :) [04:26] dupe of which bug? (if you have it offhand) [04:27] theCore: yes, I do use your emacs packages [04:27] bug 88990 [04:27] Malone bug 88990 in firefox "evolution breaks with libnss update" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88990 [04:27] just had to scroll through u-bugs logs to find the conversation from earlier [04:27] You mean breaking Evolution isn't a feature (says the Kubuntu user)? [04:28] ScottK: *grin* [04:28] I don't know, I use mutt :) [04:28] ajmitch: i'm not sure i was there early enough [04:29] oh well, as long as someone's sorting through the new bugs as they come in [04:29] What can I add to that bug? === ajmitch shrugs :) [04:31] there. === ajmitch is going to head away for a couple of days now [04:31] I'll see you on sunday evening [04:31] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89110 [04:31] Malone bug 89110 in Ubuntu "Too Many Unresolved Bugs" [Undecided,Rejected] [04:31] bye ajmitch! [04:31] Later ajmitch [04:32] ajmitch: I think that bug should go to our special channel ;-) [04:32] ajmitch: cya [04:39] bug 89110 [04:39] Malone bug 89110 in Ubuntu "Too Many Unresolved Bugs" [Undecided,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89110 === ScottK [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] Heh, I just got an e-mail asking for svk 2.0 for Edgy.. [05:18] I don't even think I could get it in Feisty at this point.. :-) [05:21] bddebian: ugh svk is not fun to maintain in general :D === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-80-156.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-101-187.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] Adri2000, just use dget to get feisty and debian source packages [07:15] e.g. dget http://url.to/myfav.dsc [07:15] and it will get the package just aliek apt-get source [07:15] like* [07:17] imbrandon: we need a dget-LP [07:18] LaserJock, dget-LP ? [07:20] ahh yea dget dosent seem to work on lp huh [07:20] that sucks [07:21] i'm sure a small python package would fix it up [07:21] err python script [07:21] wth is with librarian sticking them in diffrent direwctorys for [07:21] thats silly === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tbf [n=mathias@ip-80-226-0-1.vodafone-net.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] imbrandon: it's called an LP "feature" [07:24] :-) [07:24] imbrandon: I've asked about it before [07:25] maybe we can get some sort of file or something that would allow us to script it better [07:25] ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/rejected/vala_0.0.6-0ubuntu1_source.changes <- what have I done wrong? [07:26] ...didn't get any notification regarding the move === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tbf jumps arround [07:39] HELLO. HUHU. CONTRIBUTOR HERE. [07:40] tbf: hi, just a sec [07:40] LaserJock: thanks. === cypher1|away [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-cd557541121dafb6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] tbf, also calm down , not all of us are at the keyboard all the time [07:41] some of us are busy while still on irc ;) [07:41] imbrandon: I am calm. just tried to get some attention. you know: those dirty tricks. [07:42] tbf: well, I'm not sure exactly why it was rejected but it could be because your package is for edgy [07:42] tbf: it should be at least feisty [07:42] LaserJock: ok, that's easy to fix. [07:43] tbf: I'll clean out the rejected package so you can try again [07:47] LaserJock: thanks === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] LaserJock: ok, uploaded again. also realized that lintian complained about debhelper and cdbs not being mentioned as build dependency - fixed. === vinboy [n=vinboy@125-238-80-234.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] hope this time the package is fine. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@135.67.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F74F6A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] good morning === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] hiya dholbach [08:37] moins dholbach [08:37] hiya tsmithe [08:37] hi Lure - good luck on the motu application [08:37] hey imbrandon === tsmithe waves at imbrandon [08:38] lo tsmithe [08:38] tsmithe: thanks - just seen e-mail I need to reply... ;-) [08:38] :) [08:39] heya dholbach === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] Lure's going for MOTU? yay! === tsmithe waves also at Hobbsee [08:39] hey tsmithe [08:39] hey Hobbsee [08:40] Hobbsee: yep, you can cheer for me ;-) - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2007-March/000003.html === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] hi dholbach [08:48] tbf: did it work? [08:48] hi LaserJock [08:49] LaserJock: package shows up on http://revu.tauware.de/ now [08:49] tbf: awesome [08:49] LaserJock: groovy [08:49] lets see if that great tool makes it into universe === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-71a7a33fac517671] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] hi all....I'm just starting to code in C [09:39] can anyone help me....what do i need to put for an include to get the gtk libs [09:39] and then what do i need to use on the gcc L thing.....I've managed to get the opengl libs fine [09:39] but can't figure out how to do the gtk ones [09:40] if comeone knows a simple gtk C app i can use as a reference that'd be cool too === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.145.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] don;t worry... [10:13] got it === giskard [n=giskard@81-208-71-251.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] cbx33: you could probably use pkgconfig to get the include and linker flags for gcc [10:39] yeh i got that [10:39] thanks geser [10:40] I found it on a tutorial somewhere === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-251-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@host48-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.223] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] hi [11:08] hello === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp171-230.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] dholbach: ping? [11:29] AstralJava: pong [11:29] Hi, we're wrapping your bzr branches into .debs, and ran into trouble. [11:30] aha= [11:30] Two things, metacity-theme-1.xml and index.theme don't get generated. [11:30] I fixed, or think I did, the metacity thingie, I'll post a link to a diff in a second. [11:30] where's your branch? [11:30] I haven't pushed them yet. [11:31] if you have, let me know and I'll take a look [11:31] Wanna take a look at the diff now? [11:32] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8192/ [11:32] Okay I'll setup my branch next. [11:37] it's much easier to work only with bzr [11:37] but your patch looks good [11:37] just apply it to your branch [11:37] Ahh.. haven't used another branch to create mine, how should I approach it? bzr init? === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C68D0D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] bzr branch dholbachs-local-ustudio-branch my-ustudio-branch [11:38] done [11:38] :) [11:38] Okay thanks! :) [11:39] cd my-ustudio-branch; ... do changes ...; bzr commit -m ""; bzr push sftp://@bazaar.launchpad.net/~// [11:39] sftp://astraljava@bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-developers/ubuntustudio-look/ubuntu -- for example [11:40] if you do bzr push --remember <...> you only have to type the branch url once === jekil [n=alessand@host199-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] dholbach: What's this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8203/ === giftnudel [i=tutor31@client4.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] hi [11:59] ubuntustudio-developers -> ~ubuntustudio-dev [11:59] AstralJava: ^ [11:59] Oh crap, sorry about that. [11:59] np [11:59] I don't know where my eyes are today. :) === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] It also needed a tilde (~) in front of the team name. _That_ I did catch?! Weird. :) === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.145.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] Alright my branch is up now. [12:07] But it's only got that patch applied. [12:07] So we'd need to figure out why index.theme doesn't get generated. === ivoks [n=ivoks@32-81.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] AstralJava: i'll check in a bit [12:18] Thanks a bunch! Here's an error I snatched from pbuilder output: [12:18] Merging translations into build/share/themes/UbuntuStudio/index.theme. [12:18] syntax error at line 1, column 0, byte 0 at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/Parser.pm line 187 === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@p548FFC77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-120-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.48] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] Hello [12:32] who is Andrew Mitchell ? === elkbuntu tells ajmitch to run === AnAnt looks @ ajmitch === elkbuntu whistles innocently [12:32] hehehe [12:32] he hates me already, no love lost : [12:32] that was evil elkbuntu [12:32] a => andrew? mitch -> Mitchel [12:32] hmmmmm [12:33] ajmitch: ping ! [12:34] ajmitch: about that sync. request #84857 , what is the "proper info. for sync request" that is still needed [12:34]