asaci guess noone has dapper here, right?01:37
Admiral_Chicagonope. Feisty ftw01:37
Admiral_Chicagoactuall, i had a dapper machine in here a few minutes ago, i updated it to edgy though01:41
Admiral_Chicagoplus it's on its way out of here01:41
Admiral_Chicagoohh, gtk_realize bug confirmed upstream01:45
asacgtk_realize bug ?01:52
asacwhich ?01:52
Admiral_Chicagothe flash / music && opening / closing other bugs01:52
Admiral_Chicagoerr s/bugs/tabs01:53
asaci think there are too?01:53
Admiral_Chicagonot sure, it was in my inbox, let me pull it up01:53
UbugtuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed] 01:55
asacyeah ... was confirmed before01:55
asacwe have a fix in preview archive for that :)01:56
asacwill submit it tomorrow ... guess its getting not much testing there atm :)01:56
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AlexLatchfordAnyone know where Herd 5 is?11:03
AlexLatchfordmy update manager is broken in Herd4 and I believe I will either need to reinstall or update the update manager manually, which is a bit of a pain11:05
asacis it out yet?11:22
asacAlexLatchford: do you use aptitude or something ... or the gui update manager?11:34
asaclooking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures ... there is a link DebuggingFirefox ... which gets redirected to our bug page12:19
asachow is that done in wiki?12:19
asaci want to undo and redirect to a bug triage specific page instaed of reporting12:19
AlexLatchfordasac: I use the GUI one12:24
asacah thx :)12:32
AlexLatchfordhow do I run command line updates?12:35
AlexLatchfordaha sudo apt-get upgrade12:36
AlexLatchfordHow Thunderbird been released out for testing in your repository yet asac?12:37
asacno ... there is no such thing yet :) ...12:42
asacmaybe i can provide a preview from some mozilla.org RC release12:42
asaclast time i looked there was not even such a thing released by them12:43
asacbut lets see12:43
asacno sources though :(12:44
asacoh ... its out12:44
asacdamn ... why don't they announce this properly12:44
asacnot even a message on planet.mozilla.org12:45
AlexLatchfordfair enough12:46
AlexLatchfordback in a few minutes, running some updates12:46
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AlexLatchfordHmm, control Centre has disappeared12:55
asacsounds like serious troubles :)12:59
asactry aptitude install ubuntu-desktop :)12:59
asacor even ubuntu ?01:00
AlexLatchfordmeh I got 130 updates or so01:02
AlexLatchfordupdate manager is now working, new kernel also01:02
asacso everything worked out on own?01:03
AlexLatchfordpretty much, just the new control centre thing has been replaced by the Normal Gnome style System Menu01:04
AlexLatchfordstill has all the options though01:04
asachow was it before01:04
asaci always had a normal gnome menu01:04
asacsystem and preferences01:04
asacand system and administration01:04
AlexLatchfordyou never seen this?01:05
asacyeah ... saw that :)01:06
asacon debian ;)01:06
asacyou should be able to open it by running01:06
asacgnome-control-center from console01:06
asacso was there just a menu entry that opened that for you before?01:07
AlexLatchfordyeah, I personally wasn't a fan of it, but just saying :)01:07
asaci don't use feisty ... so it might be a try :)01:07
AlexLatchfordaha okay01:07
asaca test :)01:08
AlexLatchfordhmm, Thunderbird in Feisty loads mail a lot slower than it used to in Edgy01:08
asacdid you understand that I ment a test with 'a try' ?01:08
asaci am not native ... so just wondering .)01:08
asacyou sure?01:09
asacmaybe run "Compact Folder"01:09
asacif "compact folder automatically" is not enabled01:09
asacit gets slower in time01:09
asacyou are on pop or imap?01:09
AlexLatchfordwell I cleared out the account about 4 days ago01:10
asacmaybe network issue? or higher provider load then?01:10
AlexLatchfordwhen I updated to Feisty I deleted most of my old emails01:10
AlexLatchfordhmm maybe01:10
asacyeah ... but if you did not compact folders01:10
asacthat would explain it01:10
asacbut usually it should be done automatically iirc01:10
AlexLatchfordWell, it downloads the mails fine, filters them fine01:10
AlexLatchfordwhen I click on a folder it take a while to load the new messages in the message list pane01:11
AlexLatchfordthe old ones are fine01:11
asacdid you try to compact folder?01:11
asacmaybe it might help indeed ... especially if your folder has been much larger before01:12
asacyou can do that by right clicking on folder01:12
AlexLatchfordyeah, didn't help much01:12
asacthen i don't know ... hardly is anything different for feisty01:14
asacmore/other extensions installed?01:14
AlexLatchforderm no, only have Enigmail installed01:14
AlexLatchfordand Reply to List also01:15
asacmaybe reply to list makes the difference?01:15
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AlexLatchfordhmm ill check01:15
asacat least reply to list looks at each message somehow :)01:15
asacand parses the headers01:15
AlexLatchfordhmm no change01:16
asacyeah ... otherwise it would have been scary somehow01:16
AlexLatchfordhey, wait a minute, I just checked my account settings01:17
AlexLatchfordsaying I am on IMAP01:17
asacyeah ... that would explain it01:17
asacimap just downloads headers01:17
asacand if you look at first time01:17
asacdownloads body01:17
AlexLatchfordI certainly didn't select that01:17
asacunlikely that tbird converted it on its own01:17
asaciirc there is a setting ... always download body01:18
asacmaybe that was on before?01:18
AlexLatchfordhmm okay01:18
AlexLatchfordgrr thats annoying.01:20
asacmaybe use that01:23
asacin config editor01:24
asacset to false01:24
asacno idea where this is in gui01:24
asacand that to false too01:24
asacthen everything should be downloaded when retrieving first01:24
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baikonurwith firefox (1.5.dfsg+ I cannot access any website via https anymore. "Unexpected response from server - Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server."03:22
baikonurignore that :-)03:27
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hjmfhi all07:43
hjmfasac wrote in bug #68168 <are those gtk_style_realize -> nsFilePicker::Show issues? Can you see from stack>?07:43
UbugtuMalone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6816807:43
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:43
hjmfI cannot understand stacktraces, I'm just crossing result stacktraces against what you marked as keywords in the MASTER bugs07:45
hjmfthen if there are matches then I compare the stacktrace I've got against the one in the MASTER bug.07:45
hjmfThe ones in bug 68168 doesn't match neither the ones in 45008 nor in bug Bug #7201807:46
UbugtuMalone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6816807:47
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:47
hjmfso I just wanted to point out that both 'function calls' gtk_style_realize and nsFilePicker::Show are in the new stacktrace07:47
hjmfasac: ^^^07:48
hjmfgrep 'nsFilePicker::Show' <(bug 72018)07:53
UbugtuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201807:53
hjmf#22 0xb68671bd in nsFilePicker::Show (this=0x90c5d08, aReturn=0xbfa270fc)07:53
hjmfgrep 'nsFilePicker::Show' <(bug 89236, 68168)07:55
UbugtuMalone bug 89236 in firefox "[@gtk_style_realize] [nsFilePicker::Show]  Firefox Crash (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8923607:55
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:55
UbugtuMalone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6816807:55
hjmf#22 0xb67d245d in nsFilePicker::Show (this=0x8fd9b60, aReturn=0xbfbed17c) at nsFilePicker.cpp:58307:55
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:55
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asachjmf: will lok11:36
dfarning_asac what is up11:36
asaceverything fine ... preparing for bed11:36
dfarning_cool had a good week11:36
dfarning_apport-retrace is kicking my ass;(11:37
asacwhy that?11:37
dfarning_to get a good retace we need to have the exact versions of packages installed that the reporter has11:38
asacyep ... mostly11:38
asacactually its a bit hard for feisty ... i think we should maintain a archive somewhere so we have every ever released version somewhere around11:38
dfarning_I am trying the somehow recreate that envirernment automatically11:39
dfarning_in a chroot11:39
asachjmf: had a script already does a lot of magic11:40
asace.g. using chroot11:40
asacdownload reports11:40
dfarning_I'll ping him11:40
asaci think we should start from there to improve (e.g. install right versions automatically too)11:40
asacdon't know if that is lates version11:41
dfarning_thanks I work from their11:42
dfarning_how are things going with the linspire folks11:42
dfarning_getting patches yet?11:42
dfarning_I have started a derivativeTeam so that all the derivative policy stuff can be move out of mozillateam so that you can focus on getting things done;)11:47
asacnot seen any patches from them yet11:55
asacguess it will take some time11:55
asacsame as have still not yet sorted our patches out ... for upstream approval11:55
dfarning_I asked them to start trickling in their most important stuff so that we could get the process worked out11:56
dfarning_asac, have a good night and thanks for everything11:58
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asacnp (don't know what for though:))12:01

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