[01:09] <Majost> Thanks
[01:09] <Majost> =)
[01:37] <asac> i guess noone has dapper here, right?
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> nope. Feisty ftw
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> actuall, i had a dapper machine in here a few minutes ago, i updated it to edgy though
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> plus it's on its way out of here
[01:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ohh, gtk_realize bug confirmed upstream
[01:52] <asac> :(
[01:52] <asac> gtk_realize bug ?
[01:52] <asac> which ?
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> the flash / music && opening / closing other bugs
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> err s/bugs/tabs
[01:53] <asac> number?
[01:53] <asac> i think there are too?
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, it was in my inbox, let me pull it up
[01:55] <Admiral_Chicago> https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018
[01:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed] 
[01:55] <asac> yeah ... was confirmed before
[01:56] <asac> we have a fix in preview archive for that :)
[01:56] <asac> will submit it tomorrow ... guess its getting not much testing there atm :)
[11:03] <AlexLatchford> Anyone know where Herd 5 is?
[11:05] <AlexLatchford> my update manager is broken in Herd4 and I believe I will either need to reinstall or update the update manager manually, which is a bit of a pain
[11:18] <asac> hmm
[11:22] <asac> is it out yet?
[11:34] <asac> AlexLatchford: do you use aptitude or something ... or the gui update manager?
[12:19] <asac> looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures ... there is a link DebuggingFirefox ... which gets redirected to our bug page
[12:19] <asac> how is that done in wiki?
[12:19] <asac> i want to undo and redirect to a bug triage specific page instaed of reporting
[12:24] <AlexLatchford> asac: I use the GUI one
[12:25] <AlexLatchford> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingFirefox?action=edit
[12:32] <asac> ah thx :)
[12:35] <AlexLatchford> how do I run command line updates?
[12:36] <AlexLatchford> aha sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:37] <AlexLatchford> How Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 been released out for testing in your repository yet asac?
[12:40] <AlexLatchford> s/how/has
[12:42] <asac> no ... there is no such thing yet :) ...
[12:42] <asac> maybe i can provide a preview from some mozilla.org RC release
[12:43] <asac> last time i looked there was not even such a thing released by them
[12:43] <asac> but lets see
[12:43] <asac> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/1.5.0.10-candidates/rc1/
[12:44] <asac> no sources though :(
[12:44] <asac> oh ... its out
[12:44] <asac> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/1.5.0.10/source/thunderbird-1.5.0.10-source.tar.bz2
[12:44] <asac> damn ... why don't they announce this properly
[12:45] <AlexLatchford> :P
[12:45] <asac> not even a message on planet.mozilla.org
[12:46] <AlexLatchford> hmm
[12:46] <AlexLatchford> fair enough
[12:46] <AlexLatchford> back in a few minutes, running some updates
[12:46] <asac> sure
[12:55] <AlexLatchford> Hmm, control Centre has disappeared
[12:59] <asac> sounds like serious troubles :)
[12:59] <asac> try aptitude install ubuntu-desktop :)
[01:00] <asac> or even ubuntu ?
[01:02] <AlexLatchford> meh I got 130 updates or so
[01:02] <AlexLatchford> update manager is now working, new kernel also
[01:03] <asac> so everything worked out on own?
[01:04] <AlexLatchford> pretty much, just the new control centre thing has been replaced by the Normal Gnome style System Menu
[01:04] <AlexLatchford> still has all the options though
[01:04] <asac> how was it before
[01:04] <asac> i always had a normal gnome menu
[01:04] <asac> system and preferences
[01:04] <asac> and system and administration
[01:05] <AlexLatchford> http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/herd3/g-c-c.png
[01:05] <AlexLatchford> you never seen this?
[01:06] <asac> yeah ... saw that :)
[01:06] <asac> on debian ;)
[01:06] <asac> you should be able to open it by running
[01:06] <asac> gnome-control-center from console
[01:07] <asac> so was there just a menu entry that opened that for you before?
[01:07] <AlexLatchford> yeah, I personally wasn't a fan of it, but just saying :)
[01:07] <AlexLatchford> yes
[01:07] <asac> i don't use feisty ... so it might be a try :)
[01:07] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[01:08] <asac> a test :)
[01:08] <AlexLatchford> hmm, Thunderbird in Feisty loads mail a lot slower than it used to in Edgy
[01:08] <asac> did you understand that I ment a test with 'a try' ?
[01:08] <asac> i am not native ... so just wondering .)
[01:08] <AlexLatchford> yes
[01:09] <asac> hmm
[01:09] <asac> you sure?
[01:09] <asac> maybe run "Compact Folder"
[01:09] <asac> if "compact folder automatically" is not enabled
[01:09] <asac> it gets slower in time
[01:09] <asac> you are on pop or imap?
[01:10] <AlexLatchford> well I cleared out the account about 4 days ago
[01:10] <AlexLatchford> pop
[01:10] <asac> hmm
[01:10] <asac> maybe network issue? or higher provider load then?
[01:10] <AlexLatchford> when I updated to Feisty I deleted most of my old emails
[01:10] <AlexLatchford> hmm maybe
[01:10] <asac> yeah ... but if you did not compact folders
[01:10] <asac> that would explain it
[01:10] <asac> :)
[01:10] <asac> but usually it should be done automatically iirc
[01:10] <AlexLatchford> Well, it downloads the mails fine, filters them fine
[01:11] <AlexLatchford> when I click on a folder it take a while to load the new messages in the message list pane
[01:11] <AlexLatchford> the old ones are fine
[01:11] <asac> did you try to compact folder?
[01:12] <asac> maybe it might help indeed ... especially if your folder has been much larger before
[01:12] <asac> you can do that by right clicking on folder
[01:12] <AlexLatchford> yeah, didn't help much
[01:13] <asac> k
[01:14] <asac> then i don't know ... hardly is anything different for feisty
[01:14] <asac> more/other extensions installed?
[01:14] <AlexLatchford> erm no, only have Enigmail installed
[01:15] <AlexLatchford> and Reply to List also
[01:15] <asac> maybe reply to list makes the difference?
[01:15] <AlexLatchford> hmm ill check
[01:15] <asac> at least reply to list looks at each message somehow :)
[01:15] <asac> and parses the headers
[01:16] <AlexLatchford> hmm no change
[01:16] <asac> yeah ... otherwise it would have been scary somehow
[01:17] <AlexLatchford> hey, wait a minute, I just checked my account settings
[01:17] <AlexLatchford> saying I am on IMAP
[01:17] <asac> yeah ... that would explain it
[01:17] <asac> imap just downloads headers
[01:17] <asac> and if you look at first time
[01:17] <asac> downloads body
[01:17] <AlexLatchford> I certainly didn't select that
[01:17] <AlexLatchford> hmm..
[01:17] <asac> unlikely that tbird converted it on its own
[01:18] <AlexLatchford> yeah
[01:18] <asac> iirc there is a setting ... always download body
[01:18] <asac> maybe that was on before?
[01:18] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
[01:20] <AlexLatchford> grr thats annoying.
[01:23] <asac> mail.imap.mime_parts_on_demand
[01:23] <asac> maybe use that
[01:24] <asac> in config editor
[01:24] <asac> set to false
[01:24] <asac> no idea where this is in gui
[01:24] <asac> mail.imap.new_mail_get_headers
[01:24] <asac> and that to false too
[01:24] <asac> then everything should be downloaded when retrieving first
[01:26] <asac> works?
[03:19] <baikonur> hi
[03:22] <baikonur> with firefox (1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.10-0ubuntu0.6.06.2) I cannot access any website via https anymore. "Unexpected response from server - Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server."
[03:27] <baikonur> ignore that :-)
[07:43] <hjmf> hi all
[07:43] <hjmf> asac wrote in bug #68168 <are those gtk_style_realize -> nsFilePicker::Show issues? Can you see from stack>?
[07:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68168
[07:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008
[07:45] <hjmf> I cannot understand stacktraces, I'm just crossing result stacktraces against what you marked as keywords in the MASTER bugs
[07:45] <hjmf> then if there are matches then I compare the stacktrace I've got against the one in the MASTER bug.
[07:46] <hjmf> The ones in bug 68168 doesn't match neither the ones in 45008 nor in bug Bug #72018
[07:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68168
[07:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008
[07:47] <hjmf> so I just wanted to point out that both 'function calls' gtk_style_realize and nsFilePicker::Show are in the new stacktrace
[07:48] <hjmf> asac: ^^^
[07:53] <hjmf> grep 'nsFilePicker::Show' <(bug 72018)
[07:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018
[07:53] <hjmf> #22 0xb68671bd in nsFilePicker::Show (this=0x90c5d08, aReturn=0xbfa270fc)
[07:55] <hjmf> grep 'nsFilePicker::Show' <(bug 89236, 68168)
[07:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89236 in firefox "[@gtk_style_realize] [nsFilePicker::Show]  Firefox Crash (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89236
[07:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008
[07:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68168
[07:55] <hjmf> #22 0xb67d245d in nsFilePicker::Show (this=0x8fd9b60, aReturn=0xbfbed17c) at nsFilePicker.cpp:583
[07:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008
[11:36] <asac> hjmf: will lok
[11:36] <dfarning_> asac what is up
[11:36] <asac> everything fine ... preparing for bed
[11:36] <dfarning_> cool had a good week
[11:37] <dfarning_> apport-retrace is kicking my ass;(
[11:37] <asac> heh
[11:37] <asac> why that?
[11:38] <dfarning_> to get a good retace we need to have the exact versions of packages installed that the reporter has
[11:38] <asac> yep ... mostly
[11:38] <asac> actually its a bit hard for feisty ... i think we should maintain a archive somewhere so we have every ever released version somewhere around
[11:39] <dfarning_> I am trying the somehow recreate that envirernment automatically
[11:39] <dfarning_> in a chroot
[11:39] <asac> hmm
[11:40] <asac> hjmf: had a script already does a lot of magic
[11:40] <asac> e.g. using chroot
[11:40] <asac> download reports
[11:40] <dfarning_> I'll ping him
[11:40] <asac> i think we should start from there to improve (e.g. install right versions automatically too)
[11:41] <asac> http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hjmf/retrace_bug.sh
[11:41] <asac> don't know if that is lates version
[11:42] <dfarning_> thanks I work from their
[11:42] <dfarning_> how are things going with the linspire folks
[11:42] <dfarning_> getting patches yet?
[11:47] <dfarning_> I have started a derivativeTeam so that all the derivative policy stuff can be move out of mozillateam so that you can focus on getting things done;)
[11:55] <asac> not seen any patches from them yet
[11:55] <asac> guess it will take some time
[11:55] <asac> same as have still not yet sorted our patches out ... for upstream approval
[11:56] <dfarning_> I asked them to start trickling in their most important stuff so that we could get the process worked out
[11:58] <dfarning_> asac, have a good night and thanks for everything
[12:01] <asac> np (don't know what for though:))