[01:09] Thanks [01:09] =) [01:37] i guess noone has dapper here, right? [01:37] nope. Feisty ftw [01:41] actuall, i had a dapper machine in here a few minutes ago, i updated it to edgy though [01:41] plus it's on its way out of here [01:45] ohh, gtk_realize bug confirmed upstream [01:52] :( [01:52] gtk_realize bug ? [01:52] which ? [01:52] the flash / music && opening / closing other bugs [01:53] err s/bugs/tabs [01:53] number? [01:53] i think there are too? [01:53] not sure, it was in my inbox, let me pull it up [01:55] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 [01:55] Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,Confirmed] [01:55] yeah ... was confirmed before [01:56] we have a fix in preview archive for that :) [01:56] will submit it tomorrow ... guess its getting not much testing there atm :) === baikonur [n=simon@37.152.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@69-179-20-34.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@69-179-20-34.dyn.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam ["Ex-Chat"] === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:03] Anyone know where Herd 5 is? [11:05] my update manager is broken in Herd4 and I believe I will either need to reinstall or update the update manager manually, which is a bit of a pain [11:18] hmm [11:22] is it out yet? [11:34] AlexLatchford: do you use aptitude or something ... or the gui update manager? [12:19] looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures ... there is a link DebuggingFirefox ... which gets redirected to our bug page [12:19] how is that done in wiki? [12:19] i want to undo and redirect to a bug triage specific page instaed of reporting [12:24] asac: I use the GUI one [12:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingFirefox?action=edit [12:32] ah thx :) [12:35] how do I run command line updates? [12:36] aha sudo apt-get upgrade [12:37] How Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 been released out for testing in your repository yet asac? [12:40] s/how/has [12:42] no ... there is no such thing yet :) ... [12:42] maybe i can provide a preview from some mozilla.org RC release [12:43] last time i looked there was not even such a thing released by them [12:43] but lets see [12:43] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/1.5.0.10-candidates/rc1/ [12:44] no sources though :( [12:44] oh ... its out [12:44] http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/1.5.0.10/source/thunderbird-1.5.0.10-source.tar.bz2 [12:44] damn ... why don't they announce this properly [12:45] :P [12:45] not even a message on planet.mozilla.org [12:46] hmm [12:46] fair enough [12:46] back in a few minutes, running some updates [12:46] sure === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:55] Hmm, control Centre has disappeared [12:59] sounds like serious troubles :) [12:59] try aptitude install ubuntu-desktop :) [01:00] or even ubuntu ? [01:02] meh I got 130 updates or so [01:02] update manager is now working, new kernel also [01:03] so everything worked out on own? [01:04] pretty much, just the new control centre thing has been replaced by the Normal Gnome style System Menu [01:04] still has all the options though [01:04] how was it before [01:04] i always had a normal gnome menu [01:04] system and preferences [01:04] and system and administration [01:05] http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/herd3/g-c-c.png [01:05] you never seen this? [01:06] yeah ... saw that :) [01:06] on debian ;) [01:06] you should be able to open it by running [01:06] gnome-control-center from console [01:07] so was there just a menu entry that opened that for you before? [01:07] yeah, I personally wasn't a fan of it, but just saying :) [01:07] yes [01:07] i don't use feisty ... so it might be a try :) [01:07] aha okay [01:08] a test :) [01:08] hmm, Thunderbird in Feisty loads mail a lot slower than it used to in Edgy [01:08] did you understand that I ment a test with 'a try' ? [01:08] i am not native ... so just wondering .) [01:08] yes [01:09] hmm [01:09] you sure? [01:09] maybe run "Compact Folder" [01:09] if "compact folder automatically" is not enabled [01:09] it gets slower in time [01:09] you are on pop or imap? [01:10] well I cleared out the account about 4 days ago [01:10] pop [01:10] hmm [01:10] maybe network issue? or higher provider load then? [01:10] when I updated to Feisty I deleted most of my old emails [01:10] hmm maybe [01:10] yeah ... but if you did not compact folders [01:10] that would explain it [01:10] :) [01:10] but usually it should be done automatically iirc [01:10] Well, it downloads the mails fine, filters them fine [01:11] when I click on a folder it take a while to load the new messages in the message list pane [01:11] the old ones are fine [01:11] did you try to compact folder? [01:12] maybe it might help indeed ... especially if your folder has been much larger before [01:12] you can do that by right clicking on folder [01:12] yeah, didn't help much [01:13] k [01:14] then i don't know ... hardly is anything different for feisty [01:14] more/other extensions installed? [01:14] erm no, only have Enigmail installed [01:15] and Reply to List also [01:15] maybe reply to list makes the difference? === asac doubts it [01:15] hmm ill check [01:15] at least reply to list looks at each message somehow :) [01:15] and parses the headers [01:16] hmm no change [01:16] yeah ... otherwise it would have been scary somehow [01:17] hey, wait a minute, I just checked my account settings [01:17] saying I am on IMAP [01:17] yeah ... that would explain it [01:17] imap just downloads headers [01:17] and if you look at first time [01:17] downloads body [01:17] I certainly didn't select that [01:17] hmm.. [01:17] unlikely that tbird converted it on its own [01:18] yeah [01:18] iirc there is a setting ... always download body [01:18] maybe that was on before? [01:18] hmm okay [01:20] grr thats annoying. [01:23] mail.imap.mime_parts_on_demand [01:23] maybe use that [01:24] in config editor [01:24] set to false [01:24] no idea where this is in gui [01:24] mail.imap.new_mail_get_headers [01:24] and that to false too [01:24] then everything should be downloaded when retrieving first [01:26] works? === baikonur [n=simon@240.150.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:19] hi [03:22] with firefox (1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.10-0ubuntu0.6.06.2) I cannot access any website via https anymore. "Unexpected response from server - Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server." [03:27] ignore that :-) === baikonur [n=simon@240.150.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam ["Client] === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@140.Red-217-125-227.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:43] hi all [07:43] asac wrote in bug #68168 nsFilePicker::Show issues? Can you see from stack>? [07:43] Malone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68168 [07:43] Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008 [07:45] I cannot understand stacktraces, I'm just crossing result stacktraces against what you marked as keywords in the MASTER bugs [07:45] then if there are matches then I compare the stacktrace I've got against the one in the MASTER bug. [07:46] The ones in bug 68168 doesn't match neither the ones in 45008 nor in bug Bug #72018 [07:47] Malone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68168 [07:47] Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008 [07:47] so I just wanted to point out that both 'function calls' gtk_style_realize and nsFilePicker::Show are in the new stacktrace [07:48] asac: ^^^ [07:53] grep 'nsFilePicker::Show' <(bug 72018) [07:53] Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 [07:53] #22 0xb68671bd in nsFilePicker::Show (this=0x90c5d08, aReturn=0xbfa270fc) [07:55] grep 'nsFilePicker::Show' <(bug 89236, 68168) [07:55] Malone bug 89236 in firefox "[@gtk_style_realize] [nsFilePicker::Show] Firefox Crash (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89236 [07:55] Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008 [07:55] Malone bug 68168 in firefox "crash after clicking "save link as" (dup-of: 45008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68168 [07:55] #22 0xb67d245d in nsFilePicker::Show (this=0x8fd9b60, aReturn=0xbfbed17c) at nsFilePicker.cpp:583 [07:55] Malone bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008 === dfarning [n=dfarning@s3-165.rb2.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning_ [n=dfarning@s3-165.rb2.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:36] hjmf: will lok [11:36] asac what is up [11:36] everything fine ... preparing for bed [11:36] cool had a good week [11:37] apport-retrace is kicking my ass;( [11:37] heh [11:37] why that? [11:38] to get a good retace we need to have the exact versions of packages installed that the reporter has [11:38] yep ... mostly [11:38] actually its a bit hard for feisty ... i think we should maintain a archive somewhere so we have every ever released version somewhere around [11:39] I am trying the somehow recreate that envirernment automatically [11:39] in a chroot [11:39] hmm [11:40] hjmf: had a script already does a lot of magic [11:40] e.g. using chroot [11:40] download reports [11:40] I'll ping him [11:40] i think we should start from there to improve (e.g. install right versions automatically too) [11:41] http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hjmf/retrace_bug.sh [11:41] don't know if that is lates version [11:42] thanks I work from their [11:42] how are things going with the linspire folks [11:42] getting patches yet? [11:47] I have started a derivativeTeam so that all the derivative policy stuff can be move out of mozillateam so that you can focus on getting things done;) [11:55] not seen any patches from them yet [11:55] guess it will take some time [11:55] same as have still not yet sorted our patches out ... for upstream approval [11:56] I asked them to start trickling in their most important stuff so that we could get the process worked out [11:58] asac, have a good night and thanks for everything === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:01] np (don't know what for though:))