[12:26] yeah...academic institutions use rise above carrot dangling,....but now it's just money money money [12:27] buuuuttttttt i have been able to convince the department chair to give us a linux computer lab (only took me 2 years of begging) === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.217.122.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:30] maxamillion: that's great. where do you go to school, if you don't mind. [12:31] sam houston state university? :) (got the shsu.edu from your "info") :) [12:31] yeah [12:31] cool [12:32] i'm at work right now, i work as a system technician for the campus library and i run xubuntu on my work machine :) [12:32] Linux xUbuntu4work 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux [12:34] maxamillion - looks like you got that info from uname -a :-) [12:34] j1mc: i actually just did /exec -o uname -a in irssi :) [12:34] ah, cool [12:35] irssi is my favorite irc client, i enjoy the command line [12:37] yeah, i've played w/it. i'm still mostly on xchat. [12:38] on gaim now, just cos i'm at work. ((windows)) [12:39] fair enough [12:39] i actually really like the chatzilla plugin for firefox when i am on a windows machine === jbinder [n=jared@ool-457a56ce.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:39] does xubuntu use GDM? [12:39] i used to run xchat like 5 years ago before i became a cli junkie [12:39] jbinder: yes [12:39] maxamillion: so killall gdm should stop GUIness? [12:40] jbinder: uhmmm.... yeah, i think so === jbinder [n=jared@ool-457a56ce.dyn.optonline.net] has left #xubuntu [] [12:40] jbinder: but you could also just hard kill with ctrl+alt+backspace while in tty7 [12:40] or not === T`2 is now known as T === Darkkish|AFK is now known as Darkkish [12:43] is DDR800 pointless to buy, even if my mobo supports it? === T is now known as T` [12:43] Darkkish: no, its fast [12:44] I am using Xubuntu :) [12:44] daemonAnimatinz: welcome to our world :) === daemonAnimatinz is now known as thedaemon [12:45] hehe ty ty [12:45] got it on my brand new laptop. which came with ... vista [12:45] my pc felt like a 300mhz pc.. [12:45] shame [12:45] now its much better [12:46] oh yeah [12:46] xubuntu is a wonderful thing [12:46] I've quite enjoyed it. everything has worked out of the box on my laptop. [12:47] so M$ got cash for something you immediately trashed ....crazy [12:47] lol, I said I am using xubuntu in this room... now I feel like an idiot., I thought I was in another channel. [12:47] sorry [12:47] not paying much attention [12:48] I know, stupid huh? [12:48] no worries .. but i will be making my next laptop purchase from www.dell.com/linux so they don't get my money [12:48] yeah [12:49] I don't want dell to have my money either.. :O [12:49] grazie hi [12:49] hey I got ubuntu yaboot to load [12:49] but know [12:49] I am getting hmm I am getting input/output error [12:49] gopp: hi there [12:50] hi [12:50] rember me [12:50] I got hmm I am getting input/output error [12:50] in the yaboot screen [12:50] after I press return or type Linux and enter [12:50] gopp: yeah I remember [12:50] those laptops are expensive. [12:50] on dell.com/linux [12:50] but this is know [12:51] thedaemon: yeah, i will be saving for a while ... but since dell is willing to support the linux movement, i am willing to support their company [12:51] yeah, I understand [12:51] gopp: did you ever check the specs on whether that old G4 supports 160G drives? [12:52] yea it should [12:53] gopp: so you can't boot xubuntu? [12:53] nope [12:53] I get to yaboot [12:53] ubuntu [12:53] I got hmm I am getting input/output error [12:53] like /pci@800000 input/output error [12:54] Ah right....that sounds like you're using a bad OF device name [12:55] grazie oh it is how does oen fix that [12:55] gopp: not got networking sorted? [12:56] I can get networking via ubutnu live cd [12:56] try [12:56] should I === alnoktaalt is now known as alnokta [12:57] gopp: pastebin your /etc/yaboo,conf and we'll get the correct OF device names....but I'm doing other stuff at the moment too [12:58] k === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === RandomDestructn [n=randomde@bas9-toronto01-1242392991.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jcampbel@157.199.22.99] has left #xubuntu [] === RandomDestructn [n=randomde@bas9-toronto01-1242392991.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === RandomDestructn [n=randomde@bas9-toronto01-1242392991.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === illumidigerati [n=illumidi@pool-72-71-238-2.cncdnh.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] hello hello [01:16] finally. [01:16] finally. [01:16] hello [01:17] xubuntu is being a whore, so i'm running Kanotix live-cd. === j1mc [n=jcampbel@157.199.22.99] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] xubuntu is always a lady, you take that back :P [01:17] surprised it actually connected to the net via livecd [01:17] haha [01:18] whats up? [01:18] fine, she's a nice, respectable, upstanding, fine piece of ass [01:18] !language [01:18] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [01:18] :D [01:18] yeah [01:18] pwn [01:18] ok, language. sorry [01:18] its ok, we just don't want anyone to be offended [01:18] granted more often than not ... they aren't, but just incasew [01:18] -w [01:19] well RD, dpkg is having a severe issue with...well, not working at all. i apt-get install package and it gives me two errors [01:19] Hi again, I have intstalled Smb4k, but i get an error mounting the folder, Do i need to download smbfs? [01:19] yendor: possibly [01:19] is smbfs built into the xubuntu system? [01:20] illumidigerati, and those errors are [01:20] one sec RD, gotta remember [01:20] yendor: wait ... it might be [01:20] !smbfs [01:20] smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 389 kB, installed size 920 kB [01:20] optional [01:20] !xubuntu [01:20] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels [01:21] how much space does xubuntu take [01:21] gopp, my root partition is 6 gigs [01:21] gopp: xubuntu requires at least 1.5 gigabytes to be installed [01:22] that is the minimum. === krash123 [n=krash@201-212-63-178.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu [01:22] oh so 160 gig hd is good enough [01:23] hah, yeah [01:23] I want to run samba share [01:23] or cfs [01:23] can anybody help me with my nvidia drivers ? :S [01:23] gopp: i can't really help you w/ that, but i'm sure somebody else can. [01:23] I read today somewhere where it said that samba started becuase some geek wanted to share files between his unix box and his girlfriend computer [01:23] !cfs [01:23] cfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-17 (edgy), package size 181 kB, installed size 568 kB [01:23] !samba [01:23] samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT === j1mc [n=jcampbel@157.199.22.99] has left #xubuntu [] [01:25] samba is easy to set up [01:25] I have it set up so I can stream videos to my xbox [01:26] sweet [01:27] oh so I should not have a problem, RandomDestructn is it all cli [01:27] cli? [01:27] wtf is that? ;) [01:27] command line [01:27] simple well commented config file [01:27] lol sorry ignore that [01:27] I saw cli and read GUI [01:27] !cli [01:27] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands [01:27] !wtf [01:27] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [01:27] stop doing that [01:27] why? [01:27] the bot is awesome [01:28] cli = command line interface [01:29] yeah I know that [01:29] did you read what I wrote? [01:30] lol sorry ignore that [01:30] RandomDestructn> I saw cli and read GUI [01:30] and I was mocking the fact that he expected a gui to configure samba [01:30] ah ... i actually missed the smiley after the "wtf is that" [01:30] ah that too [01:30] my fault [01:30] sorry :) [01:30] beh, I'll take some too as I cant read properly [01:31] lol [01:31] meh ... thus is life [01:31] krash123, you ever get that nvidia help? [01:31] can you help me with my nvidia drivers ? [01:31] ahaha [01:31] wahoo!!! i get off work in 30 minutes [01:31] classic [01:31] neh i didnt -.- [01:31] !nvidia | krash123 [01:31] krash123: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:31] on my side I said it first :) [01:32] but i want the 3D acceleration so i can install beryl [01:32] )= [01:32] isnt that what that site is? [01:32] yes ... yes it is [01:32] indeed [01:32] i tried that but didnt work :S [01:32] glxgears work? [01:32] maybe im doing somethinng wrong.. [01:32] now they do [01:32] then the drivers work [01:33] and you have an xgl problem [01:33] but i dont have the direct rendering :S [01:33] or an aiglx problem [01:33] beryl is over rated ... i used it for a few weeks at work and now i am back to xfwm4 [01:33] glxinfo | grep renderin = Direct rendering = No === the [n=illumidi@pool-72-64-5-14.cncdnh.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:33] but i want to try it ! ^^ [01:34] random@workstatiuntoo:~$ glxinfo | grep renderin [01:34] looks awesome.. [01:34] direct rendering: Yes [01:34] i hate wireless... [01:34] haha I win [01:34] [01:34] tho beryl makes my wallpaper go away [01:34] and if i click my desktop it swaps my left monitors wallpaper for the right ones [01:34] i been trying for 3 days to get that [01:34] and takes mad resources [01:34] what's the command to change my username? [01:35] but thats probably cause im using a 6600 128mb to render 3200x1200 [01:35] but all i want is the drivers ... [01:35] i found a great guide for beryl.. [01:35] but it doesnt include drivers.. -.- [01:35] i have an N6600 too ^^ [01:35] but 256mb.. [01:35] the ram size shouldn't matter [01:36] i know.. [01:36] maxamillion, what? [01:36] how did u get that direct rendering ? )= [01:36] maxamillion, if matters a lot [01:36] if you dont have enough ram windows start going black if you open too many [01:36] the ram size of the card shouldn't make or break the drivers functionality [01:36] oh nono === the [n=illumidi@pool-72-64-5-14.cncdnh.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:36] we were talking about beryl working on it [01:37] we know rendering /should/ work [01:37] that's what we're talkin about , drivers :P [01:37] ^direct [01:37] but i dont get direct rendering )= [01:37] i want cable....Verizon is a deadbeat. [01:37] how did you install your drivers random ? [01:37] the: yeah ... i have cable at home ... its nice, but it seems so slow compared to the fiber line i have at work [01:38] krash123, downloaded the binaries and sudo ./NVIDIA-x86-bignumber.bin [01:38] bignumber ? [01:38] i'd hope so max, lol [01:39] i like hardwiring though. I've never trusted wireless, and now i'm getting a ginormous dose of it [01:39] i downloaded this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1,0-9746-pkg1.run [01:40] made sudo sh ./NVIDIA-..... [01:40] but didnt work :S [01:40] the: ahhh ... :( [01:41] krash123: you have to edit the runtime configs and go to a runtime that won't invoke X annnnnd then each time you kernel upgrade you have to compile again [01:41] krash123: you runnin edgy 32-bit? [01:41] yea [01:41] maxi, im sure i dont know how to do all that :( [01:41] krash123: the ndivia-glx version in the repos is the 9xxx (iirc) and will run aiglx rendering without a problem [01:42] krash123: its a pain even if you did .. i don't recommend it [01:42] grazie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8153/ [01:42] maxamillion, isnt that what he has now tho? [01:42] RandomDestructn: not sure .... === OGDA is now known as BFTD [01:42] maxi, so what should i do ? :S [01:42] krash123: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:42] krash123, the downside of my way is every time you upgrade the kernel, X will break and youll have to run the installer again [01:42] the upside is slightly newer drivers sometimes [01:43] true [01:43] i'm lazy :_ [01:43] :) * [01:43] so [01:43] actually I do it this way cause im lazy.. I never bothered to learn the right way [01:43] what should i do ? [01:43] holy hell, i think i just got a severe upgrade! haha. roommate just let me borrow/possibly own a 2.8ghz amd/1gb ram 128mb vidcard tower... [01:43] krash123, which method got you where you are now? [01:43] now [01:43] emm [01:44] 2.8ghz amd? what chip? [01:44] RD, one sec, i'll find out. [01:44] actually i reinstalled cause i made a lot of changes and now is CLEAN [01:44] 2.8 is high for them [01:44] krash123: please pastebin your xorg.conf ... you might just need to edit it [01:44] how ? :P [01:44] open it and paste it to the website [01:44] im just gettin started .. [01:45] wich website ? :S [01:45] TextEditorOfChoice /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:45] !pastebin | krash123 [01:45] krash123: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:45] athlon i think [01:45] the: which athlon? [01:45] the, itll be an a64 at that clock rate [01:45] and itll be a fast one [01:45] mines a 4000+ and it runs at 2.4ghz [01:45] gopp: in a terminal 'sudo ofpath /dev/hdc' [01:46] K [01:46] what goes in syntax? [01:46] K I typed that [01:46] i have an athlon64 x2 4600+ and /proc/cpuinfo says its 1ghz :P [01:46] well ... i have that here at work [01:46] gopp: and pastebin 'sudo mac-fdisk -l /dev/hdc' [01:46] maxi [01:46] only have an athlon64 3200+ at home ... but i love it none the less [01:46] krash123: yes? [01:47] what goes in "syntax" ? [01:47] maxamillion, run k7burn and cat /proc/cpuinfo again [01:47] they clock down to 1ghz due to cool'n'quiet [01:47] gopp: what's output by ofpath? [01:47] RandomDestructn: ahhhh ... rgr, forgot about that [01:47] k one sec [01:47] the fx-57 is 2.8ghz [01:48] yeah... i think my 3200+ at home is 2Ghz [01:48] randomdestructn, what should i put on "syntax" at pastebin ? [01:48] maxamillion, know what core it is? [01:48] maxamillion, answer krash123 [01:48] RandomDestructn: Venice [01:49] krash123: raw textr [01:49] -r [01:49] yeah 2ghz. clock 'er [01:49] raw token data ? [01:50] krash123: plain text maybe ... depends on the pastebin site [01:50] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8154/ [01:50] that's it [01:50] i think [01:50] grazie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8155/ [01:51] gopp: what's output by ofpath? [01:51] it thier to [01:51] at the bottom [01:51] k [01:51] pci@blahablah [01:53] gopp: that all looks good [01:53] krash123: look at the link you sent me .... line 95, change that from "nv" to "nvidia" then kill X and log back in, direct rendering should be there [01:53] thenw hat wrong [01:53] do I need to do ybin -v [01:53] maxamillion, how was glxgears working if he was using nv? [01:54] gopp: not changed anything [01:54] but i didnt install anything ! should i install somthing before ? [01:54] something* [01:54] oh [01:54] gopp: how did you set up yaboot...exactly [01:54] well [01:54] I allowed it to auto do it [01:54] after the install [01:54] RandomDestructn: because xorg is loading the glx module, it was probably just running them at a horribly low frame rate [01:54] huh. i didnt think it would do it at all. neat. [01:55] !nvidia | krash123 [01:55] krash123: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:55] in which case krash123 is all f ixed up [01:55] gopp: so the only disk in the g4 is the 160g? [01:55] krash123: i beg you to follow that link [01:55] so, do that in the link === rmd_ [n=jason@c-24-98-234-179.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:55] after that, change xorg.conf [01:55] then restart X ? [01:55] ctrl alt backspace :) [01:55] (that will kill x) [01:56] i just noticed that xfce4-terminal isn't really going "transparent" it's just using the background image. ie, i can't see the firefox beneath this window, just the background image. is this normal? [01:56] those 3 steps and it should work ? [01:56] rmd_, yes [01:56] krash123: yes [01:56] :D [01:56] ill try [01:56] rmd_, its way less resource intensive [01:56] many apps do it like that [01:56] ill tell you when i finish. :D [01:56] just out of curiosity... there's no way to change it? [01:56] rmd_: there is if you use compositing [01:57] !compositor [01:57] yea [01:57] For instructions on how to enable the compositor in Xubuntu, please see http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en#xcomposite [01:57] grazie that the only disk [01:57] !compositor | rmd_ [01:57] rmd_: please see above [01:57] lol [01:57] didn't know ubotu would do that [01:57] xfce's compositor is actually not bad too [01:57] gopp: that config should work [01:57] thanks for the link [01:57] rmd_: no prob [01:57] I am going to reboot [01:57] but I keep getting input and out errors [01:58] let me reboot [01:58] but.. uh.. the link just goes to the front page.. doesnt say anything about compositor [01:58] RandomDestructn: annnd in xfce4.4 apparently compositor will use aiglx and direct render if you have hardware to support it [01:58] i'll find it, though [01:58] do I need to bless it somehow [01:58] gopp: with holy penguin pee? no [01:58] oh [01:59] ok ... i'm off work ... bbl === Eagle_101 [n=Intellig@unaffiliated/eagle101/x-0000001] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] so if i wanted to use the compositor, i'd have to compile xfwm4 on my own? [02:00] hey [02:01] i have installed linux-image-2..-generic,, should i install linux-image-686 ? [02:02] RandomDestructn, can you help me there ? [02:03] krash123, if you can boot, why do you want to install another image? [02:03] oh ok [02:03] there will be a tiny improvement maybe [02:03] still input and out put error [02:03] I wouldnt bother [02:03] random@workstatiuntoo:~$ uname -r [02:03] 2.6.17-11-386 [02:03] I dont bother anyway [02:04] so, with linux-image-generic, i should isntall linux-restricted-modules-generic ,. right ? === Str8 [n=chatzill@cpe-24-162-49-97.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:04] Id say so [02:04] its pretty hard to mess up with apt-get [02:04] grazie know I am getting malloc failed [02:04] but its already installed.. :S [02:04] the only thing that sucks about apt get is the damn long command line [02:04] sudo apt get install something [02:04] way too many words [02:05] in mandriva you just urpmi something [02:05] but im following the guide [02:05] its with synaptic.. [02:05] oh, yeah whatev [02:05] same thing [02:05] (ish) [02:05] uknow or corrupt filesystem [02:05] gopp: that's a different error to before...how much text is output? ...have you got a digital camera? [02:06] wait, krash of course its already installed [02:06] nope sorry [02:06] you had the driver in, but didnt have xorg.conf set up [02:06] if you changed the xorg.conf setting, then youre golden [02:06] are there any xubuntu pros out there willing to answer a few questions for a noob? [02:06] Str8, give 'er [02:06] so , i dont have to install anything ? === Jester46 [n=Jester45@d24-32.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:06] just change that ? [02:06] krash123, you already did, no? === Jester46 [n=Jester45@d24-32.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has left #xubuntu [] [02:06] I just installed linux for the first time yesterday... [02:06] gopp: how much text is output? [02:06] yeah, and if it breaks X, then change it back [02:06] i didnt install anything [02:06] you do know how to do that from command line, yes? [02:06] but i'm kind of of confused. [02:06] you did earlier [02:06] right? [02:07] I installed XFCE? [02:07] i did change the xorg.backup for the actual one.. [02:07] twice :S [02:07]