[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> grr at crash reports
[01:05] <poningru> asac: dude you should turn in an application for mentor for soc
[01:05] <poningru> its due march 14th
[01:08] <asac> what?
[01:08] <asac> where?
[01:08] <asac> what about :) ?
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: please look at Bug #
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Bug $38758
[01:09] <asac> hehe
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Bug #38758
[01:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38758 in mozilla-thunderbird "keyboard navigation in message faulty" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/38758
[01:09] <Admiral_Chicago> GAH!
[01:11] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: if you ask if tbird 1.5.0.10 will get to feisty ... then yes
[01:11] <asac> i have a general exception for just before the release :)
[01:12] <asac> poningru: ah ... summer of code
[01:12] <asac> but what would be a valid project?
[01:12] <poningru> blargh?
[01:12] <poningru> asac: /me shrugs
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> MF has a few :)
[01:13] <poningru> fixing the use application prompt
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: it was released today
[01:13] <asac> i know ...  i called it stealthbird from now on
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> ??
[01:13] <asac> or even cloaked
[01:13] <asac> it landed silently
[01:13] <asac> as in an ambush :)
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> lol
[01:14] <asac> no reall announcement ahead
[01:14] <asac> bit pissed about that i must admit ... 1. they never learn: don't release on friday ... 2. tell people when you will release :)
[01:15] <asac> anyway ... will try to prepare tbird update sunday night ... so monday it should be availabe
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: only reason I know is because I get a Mozilla dev feed
[01:15] <asac> for feisty we get official branding
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> w00t!
[01:15] <asac> yeah ... planet.mozilla.org
[01:16] <asac> i have that too ... was pretty silent
[01:16] <asac> when did you first read it?
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i get...http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews
[01:20] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: you remember when you first found?
[01:21] <Admiral_Chicago> first found what?
[01:22] <poningru> we do?
[01:22] <poningru> asac: for feisty we get thunderbird branding?
[01:23] <poningru> you know we had that for edgy as well
[01:23] <asac> my edgy tbird is not
[01:23] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: first found out about tbird being released :)
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> around 23.30 UTC
[01:25] <asac> ok ... today?
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
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[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> haven't worked on bugs in a while, the whole "school" and "trying to have a future" thing really gets in the way
[01:45] <poningru> asac: I know but thats because no one did it
[01:46] <poningru> atleast thats what people said
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[02:01] <Admiral_Chicago> update a relevant bug report to the TB update.
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[03:07] <asac> n8
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[03:52] <asac> hi
[03:53] <asac> how many tabs do you usually have open in ffox?
[03:55] <hjmf> hi
[03:55] <hjmf> maybe 6-12 on each window
[03:58] <hjmf> asac, btw, I've updated a bit my script and added a "plugin" to handle different ff versions in feisty
[03:58] <hjmf> here are the links (again bad dirty coded)
[03:58] <hjmf> http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hjmf/retrace_bug.sh
[03:58] <hjmf> http://www.telefonica.net/web2/hjmf/handle_ff_versions_feisty.sh
=== hjmf still needs a proper web place to upload those things :/ 
[03:59] <asac> just i currently read a discussio where people say: i have 200 or more tabs open :)
[03:59] <asac> maybe to wiki as attachment?`
[03:59] <hjmf> OMG!! 8O
[04:00] <hjmf> I'll take a look
[04:01] <hjmf> In case you check handle_ff_versions_feisty.sh please read the code because is very focused to my own environment, but works while waiting for a 2.0.0.1 -dbgsym package
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[04:04] <asac> yeah quite enviroment specific
[04:04] <asac> will thin abit
[04:04] <asac> think
[04:05] <asac> how to improve ... but for now, please add to wiki ... if possible :)
[04:05] <hjmf> k, just doing
[04:06] <asac> hjmf: i guess a inet repo with all history versions would help, right?
[04:06] <hjmf> sure
[04:07] <hjmf> it's just that I haven't found any yet (not tried too hard though)
[04:09] <asac> yes ... guess we should maintain on our own
[04:09] <asac> for most important packages
[04:09] <asac> e.g. firefox, tbird, what else :) ?
[04:16] <hjmf> OK, now there are linked on my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu
[04:17] <asac> okok ... still on telefonica though :)
[04:17] <hjmf> by the moment :)
[04:17] <asac> can't we attach things to wiki directly?
[04:17] <hjmf> not sure, have to read the docs
[04:18] <hjmf> found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnActions/AttachFile
[04:19] <hjmf> too new to me I guess :P
[04:21] <asac> :-P
[04:22] <asac> yeah ... innovation .. only for the young :) ... I feel the same often :)
[04:23] <hjmf> :)
[04:23] <asac> can you open`
[04:23] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/embed_restyle_fix.patch
[04:23] <asac> or is it down?
[04:23] <asac> i cannot access it
[04:24] <hjmf> it gets loading but nothing opens
[04:24] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/
[04:24] <asac> do you see index of files there?
[04:24] <hjmf> no, just the same
[04:24] <asac> i am stuck at "connecting to people.ubuntu.com ..."
[04:24] <asac> so down
[04:24] <asac> :/
[04:27] <hjmf> time out error to people.ubuntu.com :/
[04:30] <hjmf> awk for 30'
[04:39] <asac> :)
[04:41] <asac> hjmf: thx for duplicating restyle bugs !!
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[05:29] <hjmf> damn I cannot do feisty's retraces today because people.ubuntu.com is down, hence is pitti's repo :(
[05:29] <hjmf> s/today/now
[05:40] <asac> yeah
[05:40] <asac> pretty annoying
[05:40] <asac> bug soon -dbgsym can be cached
[05:41] <asac> locally
[05:41] <asac> good .. but not today :/
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[05:55] <asac> yeah ... probably a sign :)
[05:55] <hjmf> lol
[05:55] <hjmf> awk for a while
[05:55] <asac> j
[05:55] <asac> y
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[06:40] <stephen> I've no prior IRC experience and I have instructions to "ping" Alexander - I believe that would be asac
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> stephen: yes
[06:46] <asac> stephen: hi
[06:46] <asac> :)
[06:46] <stephen> hi
[06:46] <asac> cool :)
[06:47] <asac> ok ... so you have problems to access https
[06:47] <stephen> yes
[06:47] <asac> if started from within firefox?
[06:47] <asac> aeh
[06:47] <asac> sorry
[06:47] <asac> thunderbird
[06:47] <stephen> Yes clicking on link with e-mail, otherwise seems OK
[06:48] <asac> ok ... and you sure this did nothappen before?
[06:48] <stephen> "within e-mail"
[06:48] <asac> before latest upgrade
[06:48] <stephen> no didn't - eg Amazon.com notifications
[06:49] <asac> ok .. so you get it now hmm
[06:49] <asac> you are using gnome?
[06:49] <stephen> yes
[06:49] <asac> ok
[06:49] <asac> what is set in preferred applications?
[06:49] <asac> as default browser
[06:49] <stephen> Web Browser: Firefox ... more to follow
[06:50] <asac> what command do you see?
[06:50] <asac> no thats ok
[06:50] <asac> ok ... do this:
[06:50] <asac> please edit a file:
[06:50] <stephen> firefox %s
[06:50] <asac> name it firefox.sh
[06:50] <asac> somewhere
[06:50] <stephen> new file or find it?
[06:51] <asac> no
[06:51] <asac> just edit a new file
[06:51] <asac> and add:
[06:51] <asac> #!/bin/sh
[06:51] <asac> unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[06:51] <asac> firefox $@
[06:51] <asac> that
[06:51] <asac> :)
[06:51] <asac> 3-lines above
[06:51] <asac> if done
[06:52] <stephen> OK ... minute
[06:52] <asac> if done: copy that to /usr/local/bin/
[06:53] <asac> and make the script executable e.g. 'chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/firefox.sh'
[06:53] <stephen> OK OK 2 minutes
[06:54] <asac> no problem
[06:54] <asac> just take your time :)
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[06:56] <stephen> OK, next?
[06:57] <asac> as defaulta pplication in gnome
[06:57] <asac> use /usr/local/bin/firefox.sh %s
[06:57] <asac> as command
[06:57] <stephen> OK
[06:57] <asac> (e.g. select custom)
[06:57] <asac> myybe try
[06:57] <asac> if /usr/local/bin/firefox.sh
[06:57] <asac> starts firefox for you
[06:57] <asac> just to be sure that script is proper
[06:59] <stephen> again what exactly should be entered in "Command:" dialog?
[07:00] <asac> /usr/local/bin/firefox.sh %s
[07:00] <asac> but first try
[07:00] <asac> in console
[07:00] <asac> if
[07:00] <asac> /usr/local/bin/firefox.sh
[07:00] <asac> works
[07:01] <stephen> OK starts in console, will enter as "Command:"
[07:02] <stephen> now will test e-mail link, right?
[07:02] <stephen> BINGO
[07:02] <stephen> thanks
[07:03] <asac> works?
[07:03] <asac> ok
[07:03] <asac> damn mozilla application helper ;)
[07:03] <asac> wait
[07:03] <asac> can you test one more thing?
[07:03] <asac> stephen: ?
[07:03] <stephen> yes
[07:03] <asac> ok
[07:03] <asac> now its about a fix :)
[07:04] <asac> a real one
[07:04] <asac> please backup /usr/bin/firefox .. in case we mess it up :)
[07:04] <stephen> OK ... minute
[07:04] <asac> in line 104
[07:04] <asac> there is:
[07:05] <asac> EXTENT_LD_LIB_PATH=${MOZ_DIST_BIN}:${MOZ_DIST_BIN}/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:05] <asac> use:
[07:05] <asac> EXTENT_LD_LIB_PATH=/usr/lib/:${MOZ_DIST_BIN}:${MOZ_DIST_BIN}/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[07:05] <asac> and use normal firefox default app of gnome again
[07:06] <stephen> couple minutes here
[07:06] <asac> maybe this fixes it too?
[07:06] <asac> no problem
[07:09] <stephen> going back ... to "first, back-up" .... /usr/bin/firefox is just link
[07:13] <stephen> OK, what script it links to I've backed on Desktop, now ... let's see
[07:13] <asac> ah right
[07:15] <stephen> so now I've got corrected script on my Desktop ... where does it go?
[07:16] <asac> to
[07:16] <asac> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[07:16] <stephen> OK
[07:17] <asac> hjmf: i somehow don't like the boilerplate for crashers
[07:17] <asac> the bulk answer i mean :)
[07:17] <asac> its not explicit enough imo
[07:19] <hjmf> asac:  what do you mean, my english is too bad
[07:19] <asac> :)
[07:19] <asac> i mean the prepared answer from wiki
[07:19] <hjmf> OK
[07:19] <asac> te ... what extension installed, what flashplayer
[07:19] <asac> etc.
[07:19] <asac> :)
[07:19] <asac> how should the reporter know how to obtain that info
[07:20] <hjmf> I see, I was thinking about it since we can get that info from the crash report
[07:20] <asac> damn .. people agreed on ubuntu-bugs that they want to mark all
[07:20] <asac> SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()
[07:20] <asac> as duplicates
[07:20] <asac> now they are off
[07:20] <asac> so i can't correct them
[07:21] <asac> you already unmarked at least one i saw in mail
[07:21] <stephen> OK ... now switch "Preferred Application" back and test?
[07:21] <hjmf> maybe we can assign all firefox bugs to mt as soon as they arrive
[07:21] <asac> stephen: yes ... if running "firefox" from console still works
[07:22] <asac> hjmf: good idea ... you think they will stopp changing state then?
[07:22] <asac> will it help?
[07:22] <hjmf> maybe
[07:22] <asac> discussion on #ubuntu-bugs showed that they liked the idea to get lots of karma
[07:22] <asac> :)
[07:22] <hjmf> :)
[07:22] <asac> so probably they won't stop
[07:22] <asac> ;)
[07:22] <stephen> asac:  Permission denied
[07:22] <asac> ah
[07:23] <asac> chmod a+x /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[07:23] <asac> ?
[07:23] <asac> or chmod a+x /usr/bin/firefox
[07:24] <hjmf> I'm going to test something on malone mail
[07:24] <asac> k
[07:24] <hjmf> give me a few minutes
[07:24] <asac> auto assign?
[07:24] <asac> cool feature i guess ... maybe we can write an irc bot too :)
[07:24] <hjmf> yep
[07:26] <stephen> asac: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:27] <asac> you have mozilla installed too?
[07:27] <stephen> yes
[07:27] <asac> from universe?
[07:27] <stephen> yes
[07:27] <asac> hmm
[07:27] <asac> what version is it?
[07:28] <stephen> ... minute
[07:28] <stephen> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060216 Debian/1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2
[07:28] <asac> pretty old
[07:29] <asac> you should not run it ... at least not for browsing
[07:29] <asac> security holes is the word
[07:29] <asac> but i try
[07:29] <asac> let me see
[07:29] <asac> installing
[07:30] <hjmf> test done, lets wait a bit (iirc 3 minutes)
[07:30] <asac> hjmf: how do you hook in the reassign script to incoming mail?
[07:31] <hjmf> i'm just testing, but if needed with procmail
[07:32] <asac> stephen: .... i don't see that here
[07:32] <asac> when do you get that?
[07:32] <asac> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loadin ...
[07:32] <asac> ??
[07:33] <stephen> running firefox in terminal
[07:33] <stephen> "~$ firefox"
[07:33] <asac> hmm
[07:33] <asac> still have to original?
[07:34] <stephen> don't understand
[07:34] <asac> the unmodified file ... so we can restart from initial version
[07:34] <asac> ?
[07:34] <stephen> firefox - yes
[07:34] <stephen> minute
[07:35] <stephen> dir
[07:35] <stephen> sorry
[07:36] <asac> i think you have accidentially messed up the line you edited
[07:36] <asac> it should find that
[07:37] <stephen> could be ... I'll check
[07:37] <asac> maybe a line break?
[07:37] <asac> what editor do you use?
[07:37] <asac> some break lines without you doing anything :)
[07:38] <stephen> gedit
[07:38] <asac> hmmm should work
[07:39] <hjmf> damn just notice that I've sent the email from wrong account :/ ; sending back again, 3 minutes to see if works
[07:40] <asac> :)
[07:40] <stephen> asac:  I see my mistake ... several minutes
[07:41] <asac> stephen: great :)
[07:43] <stephen> OK ... starts from terminal now
[07:44] <stephen> will try in "Preferred ..."
[07:45] <stephen> ... and works from e-mail link
[07:45] <stephen> thanks
[07:45] <asac> cool
[07:46] <asac> thank you for testing
[07:46] <asac> will add this in next upload
[07:46] <asac> got to go
[07:46] <asac> n8 all
[07:46] <stephen> you're welcome ... glad I could do small part
[07:49] <hjmf> I'm getting several ** Also affects: firefox (upstream) from woallance
[07:50] <hjmf> I think he's busy today
[07:50] <AlexLatchford> Anyone know what Feisty+1 will be called yet?
[07:51] <hjmf> seems that batch change malone emails doesn't work for me :(
[07:51] <hjmf> AlexLatchford: I don't
[07:58] <AlexLatchford> hmm, just thinking as G is taken with Grumpy Goundhog
[07:58] <AlexLatchford> s/GoundGround/
[08:07] <asac> ah ... can someone with mplayer plugin please try preview archive version?
[08:08] <asac> does it crash if you look video and then close tab
[08:08] <asac> or something?
[08:20] <hjmf> I'm giving up with that crap malone mail stuff; maybe some one with more patience may implement a script with procmail + mutt gpg signed email to do this
[08:29] <hjmf> asac: firefox 2.0.0.2+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 mozilla-mplayer 3.31-1
[08:29] <hjmf> no crash
[08:32] <hjmf> time to quit; see you
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[08:35] <AlexLatchford> https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1
[08:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] 
[08:35] <AlexLatchford> meh, we have been linked in on this bug?
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[11:54] <crackhead> hey
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> crackhead: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[11:54] <crackhead> the latest. edgy
[11:54] <crackhead> well, 6.10
[11:55] <crackhead> smooth scrolling had no improvement
[11:55] <crackhead> i just recently installed it. the same effect has been occurring since the beginning.
[11:55] <crackhead> i know my processor or card isn't slow. they're all totally knew. amd x2 3800+ dual core. nvidia geforce 6150. 2 gb ram.
[11:55] <crackhead> *new
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> go to system settings --
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, wait i have to find it
[11:58] <crackhead> ok
[11:59] <crackhead> what after system settings? (it's in the k-menu..)
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i have to track this down
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, can't find it, there is an option in the system settings for adjusting scolling in Fx
[12:02] <crackhead> the option for smooth scrolling in firefox. i tried that one. it didnt have any effect.
[12:02] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[12:02] <Admiral_Chicago> what version of Fx are you using
[12:02] <crackhead> the same effect of the slow scrolling/jump happens in other screens, like this konversation window.
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, try this
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:04] <Admiral_Chicago> just hit enter and use the default options
[12:04] <crackhead> --reconfigure = unknown option
[12:04] <crackhead> one hyphen?
[12:05] <crackhead> that yielded "dpkg: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)"
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> whats the problem?
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> wait a second
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> AlexLatchford: scolling with a mouse makes the screens jumpy
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> oh okay, thought it may have been the same as my issue
[12:07] <crackhead> the refresh down happens in chunks--refresh, scroll down, refresh, scroll down, etc.
[12:07] <crackhead> chunky scrolling in all the windows
[12:07] <crackhead> even though im wheeling the scroll wheel faster
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> wth! dpkg doesn't have a reconfigure command?
[12:08] <crackhead> i know it shouldn't be my processor, system, etc. it's all new: amd x2 3800+ dual core, nvidia geforce 6150, 2 gb ram, etc.
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> right, no i'm assuming its your X settings
[12:09] <crackhead> i'm sure it's a setting somewhere or something software
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> crackhead: yes, its your X settings
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> dpkg has a *reconfigure* setting
[12:10] <crackhead> it's just --configure.. ill do that as you previously suggested
[12:11] <crackhead> !paste
[12:11] <crackhead> !pastebin
[12:11] <crackhead> (where's the pastebin?)
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> pastebin.ca
[12:12] <crackhead> http://www.pastebin.ca/380297
[12:12] <crackhead> the output/said there were errors
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i know that. hmm sec
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <crackhead> should i ask it to be verbose?
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> there is the command, run it, start KDE (ctrl + Alt + backspace) and use it
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> tell me if it helps
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab. dinner
[12:14] <crackhead> ok.. how long might you be? ill be back in 45m in
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> ~30 min
[12:15] <crackhead> what time zone are you in?
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> -6 UTC
[12:16] <crackhead> i'm in est/new york. so, ill be back around 7 pm est.
[12:16] <crackhead> midwest us?
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> yup, that's -5. I live in Chicago (nick) part of the year
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i mean, I am admiral_CHICAGO :)
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i should be back at that time as well
[12:17] <crackhead> yeah. what were you talking about up there, "there is the command, run it, start kde, and use it"? which command? im a little confused there, but you can explain when you're back. sorry to keep you. enjoy the food, admiral. ha
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> see ya then