[12:01] <erUSUL> Arkaitz: this is a kernel bug that you should report in bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <Bagoor> Arkaitz, you use Edgy ?
[12:01] <r00t__> that did it
[12:01] <tcgamer> crdlb, do you know of anything like* teamspeak that should work on good ol' ubuntu
[12:01] <n2diy> zappe: lshw
[12:01] <erUSUL> !patience > Arkaitz
[12:01] <Arkaitz> Bagoor yes
[12:01] <r00t__> ty again
[12:01] <Bagoor> Arkaitz, use Dapper :)
[12:01] <crdlb> tcgamer, I don't know of anything similar
[12:01] <zappe> n2diy, great
[12:01] <Bagoor> Arkaitz, I had many kernel problems with Edgy
[12:01] <K3nto> !torent
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <K3nto> !torrent
[12:01] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:01] <Arkaitz> erUSUL you should talk about pacience when you have been trying to install ubuntu for 2 days without success
[12:02] <K3nto> azureus is probably the best one, right?
[12:02] <Arkaitz> Bagoor and what did you use at last?
[12:02] <tcgamer> does anyone know of anything similar to TEAMSPEAK that runs on ubuntu
[12:02] <tcgamer> ?
[12:02] <Bagoor> Arkaitz, Currently using Dapper
[12:02] <raven3x7> Arkaitz, you tried the text install?
[12:02] <rolnyzx> HiDensity, you have to reconfigure /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:02] <Innatech> tcgamer: Ventrilo.
[12:02] <r00t__> raven3x7, have you ever used Yakuake?
[12:03] <raven3x7> K3nto, also the most complicated
[12:03] <tcgamer> Ventrilo doesn't have a linux package out yet
[12:03] <tcgamer> i run it in wine
[12:03] <raven3x7> root, never even heard of it
[12:03] <erUSUL> Arkaitz: does it give you the right to insult us? people who are only volunteers?
[12:03] <tcgamer> but it is shakey
[12:03] <K3nto> raven3x7 is it similar to the pc one?
[12:03] <tcgamer> Innatech, how do you run it?
[12:03] <tcgamer> Innatech, it runs pretty shakey under WINE
[12:03] <K3nto> tcgamer: are you using WoW?
[12:03] <r00t__> hehe, it is just a terminal emulater that looks like the one from quake
[12:03] <n2diy> K3nto: ham?
[12:03] <Innatech> tcgamer: hmm. I thought they had a linux client out now. I haven't tried in a while, I was running it under WINE.
[12:03] <tcgamer> no
[12:03] <raven3x7> K3nto, if by PC you mean windows exactly the same
[12:03] <tcgamer> I don't play WoW
[12:03] <Arkaitz> raven3x7 yeah, but then I get errors in X Server because of the ATI graphic card :( Its a Mobility Radeon x700 I cant accelerate 3D I cant even switch the computer off because the system and the graphic card crashes
[12:03] <tcgamer> I play Wolf:ET
[12:04] <sotec> beryl is taking forever to download
[12:04] <K3nto> okay
[12:04] <sotec> even at 354kb/s
[12:04] <r00t__> I used to play WoW
[12:04] <K3nto> n2diy: ham...?
[12:04] <r00t__> but i dropped it when i left windows
[12:04] <tcgamer> there has to be a voice chat program that i can talk to my buddies on under linux
[12:04] <n2diy> K3nto: your nick looks like a ham radio call sign
[12:04] <r00t__> ever tried Ventrilo?
[12:04] <sotec> is there a way to chat in yahoo under linux?
[12:05] <crdlb> tcgamer, you could use skype
[12:05] <Innatech> tcgamer: Woah. So apparently I was confused--its *teamspeak* that has a Linux client. http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=requirements Gratz!
[12:05] <Bagoor> tcgamer, Ekiga
[12:05] <Bagoor> tcgamer, or Skype
[12:05] <tcgamer> what is Ekiga?
[12:05] <Bagoor> tcgamer, or Gyachi
[12:05] <jaime> some one had use "ext2fs.h"
[12:05] <K3nto> n2dik: hahaha ham radio?
[12:05] <raven3x7> Arkaitz  boot without X(safe mode). and install fglrx with apt-get from the command line.
[12:05] <sotec> yahoo chat under linux?
[12:05] <tcgamer> are these all free amd legal?
[12:05] <Bagoor> tcgamer, A voice chat application !
[12:05] <rolnyzx> sotec, Kopete
[12:05] <crdlb> tcgamer, yes
[12:05] <Arkaitz> raven3x7 I did that, It didnt solve anything
[12:06] <Arkaitz> I even installed ati drivers
[12:06] <tcgamer> which one ekiga skype or gyachi
[12:06] <raven3x7> Arkaitz, then type sudo aticonfig --initial  sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[12:06] <sotec> not GAIM though?
[12:06] <tcgamer> never heard of the others beside skype
[12:06] <Arkaitz> raven3x7 I also did that
[12:06] <K3nto> r00t__: you played WoW on linux?
[12:06] <Arkaitz> thats why I am desperate
[12:06] <tcgamer> i need like a group...skype is only one right?
[12:06] <K3nto> !bittornado
[12:06] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.15-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 147 kB, installed size 864 kB
[12:06] <sotec> rolynzx, isn't Kopete a KDE program? i'm under GNOME
[12:07] <erUSUL> sotec: Gaim
[12:07] <r00t__> K3nto, no; but it can be done so i have heard.  I played when i was using Winblows
[12:07] <K3nto> bittornado is same quality as azureus
[12:07] <raven3x7> Arkaitz, that doesnt sound good. try googling for your laptop model to see if any one got the graphics card working. using Vesa as your driver coould work as well
[12:07] <rolnyzx> sotec, yes gaim too
[12:07] <Bagoor> tcgamer, I told you 3 applications !
[12:07] <K3nto> yeah im trying that
[12:07] <Innatech> TCgamer: TeamSpeak 2 Linux Client - Minimum Requirements    * Distribution of Linux    * Pentium 166 MHz CPU    * 64 MBytes of RAM    * 10 MBytes of harddisk space   * An X server (like XFree86)    * An Internet connection or LAN    * A full-duplex soundcard    * A microphone (if you want to be able to talk, not just listen)
[12:07] <raven3x7> Arkaitz, in fact vesa seems to be your best bet
[12:07] <Arkaitz> raven3x7 I did the vesa thing, I also contacted other users with the same problem, no success
[12:07] <nf4> Hey how do i use sudo to copy /home/negen/Desktop/JMF/JMF/NativeLibs-linux.zip to /usr/share/mercury/jni
[12:07] <K3nto> i got it to crash using wine : /
[12:07] <sotec> rolnyzx, do you know of a current yahoo room list online or is there a way to browse in GAIM for the roomlist?
[12:08] <tcgamer> i have used TS but it doesn't like alsa and crdlb and i exhausted our resources in fixing it
[12:08] <r00t__> bummer
[12:08] <K3nto> oooooh somebody taught me that command earlier
[12:08] <riaal> whats the command for unpacking zip files? (don't remember)
[12:08] <whonicca> is there an easy way to setup an ftp server on linux =\
[12:08] <Venga> jajajaja
[12:08] <K3nto> is there like a history for the terminal
[12:08] <Innatech> tcgamer: ah. that's a pain. Send em a bug report!
[12:08] <whonicca> i dont want to add users to my single user system just for ftp
[12:08] <rolnyzx> sotec, nope
[12:08] <rolnyzx> sotec, i dont know
[12:08] <sotec> bummer
[12:08] <jrib> riaal: unzip  but you can just double click on them
[12:09] <nf4> sotec you can browse in GYachE improved
[12:09] <sotec> nf4, that's cool. I'll check that out
[12:09] <riaal> jrib, trying to wrigt a script, keep forgetting everything
[12:09] <sotec> d/ling beryl at the moment. 60%
[12:10] <tcgamer> would ekiga and the gyachi support multiple users in a room?
[12:10] <raven3x7> Arkaitz im sorry im out of ideas. i uess you also tried the r300 drivers then
[12:10] <Arkaitz> raven3x7 r300 ?
[12:10] <godtvisken> anyone know of a good music server? i want to stream my music from one computer to another outside my lan
[12:10] <sotec> ah crap.
[12:10] <sotec> no
[12:10] <sotec> no no no no
[12:10] <K3nto> is bittornado as fast as azureus
[12:10] <nf4> gyachi has support for chat rooms with multible users
[12:10] <K3nto> and is it lighter on resources?
[12:10] <tcgamer> is there a download for windows?
[12:10] <sotec> it's updating everything....something like 137 upgrades
[12:11] <erUSUL> Arkaitz: radeon or ati (man radeon)
[12:11] <sotec> i didn't want that to happen.
[12:11] <tcgamer> my friends on XP need to be able use it also
[12:11] <Arkaitz> hahaha ok
[12:11] <nf4> Hey how do i use sudo to copy /home/negen/Desktop/JMF/JMF/NativeLibs-linux.zip to /usr/share/mercury/jni
[12:11] <lovloss> What's up
[12:11] <raven3x7> Arkaitz, its the opensource radeon driver. i think its ubuntus default fr your card though
[12:11] <Flare183> Hey All!
[12:11] <sotec> there is a Gyache and a Gaim for windows, yes
[12:11] <Flare183> I still can't get this Compiz thing to work
[12:11] <sotec> i didn't like them as much as Trillian, myself
[12:12] <erUSUL> nf4: sudo cp /home/negen/Desktop/JMF/JMF/NativeLibs-linux.zip  /usr/share/mercury/jni
[12:12] <lovloss> does anyone know if there's a patch that can let open office save in WPD format? I have a wordperfect user who wants to be more open source
[12:12] <nf4> thank you
[12:12] <Innatech> tcgamer: check this out: http://mumble.sourceforge.net . A cross platform open source gamer voice chat project. I can't vouch for its maturity.
[12:12] <joeyk_> has anyone seen any articles on the internet about linux uPnP setups... like connecting my 360 to my linux box?
[12:12] <tcgamer> k
[12:12] <tcgamer> ummm
[12:12] <Flare183> every time i run either beryl or compiz they make the title bar on the windows dissappear
[12:12] <lovloss> mine too
[12:13] <raven3x7> r00t__, quake? you mean quake 1
[12:13] <tcgamer> can someone explain SKYPE .... its free and not free
[12:13] <sotec> crap, my kernels and headers are being updated....is that a good thing or a bad thing?
[12:13] <riaal> if im using unzip in a command or script, how do I unzip every file in a folder? like *.* in windows
[12:13] <crdlb> tcgamer, skype is free pc-to-pc
[12:13] <tcgamer> can i accidently do something and they charge me?
[12:13] <K3nto> i think i'll try bittornado
[12:13] <tcgamer> like phone to pc
[12:13] <tcgamer> or do you have to sign up?
[12:13] <Flare183> can anyone help?
[12:13] <r00t__> yeah, here is a link to it...  http://yakuake.uv.ro/
[12:13] <Innatech> tcgamer: phone to PC is called "skype in," IIRC. It's an extra charge.
[12:14] <crdlb> tcgamer, you can sign up without a credit card
[12:14] <tcgamer> but i can't download it then all of a sudden be charged...i would have to sign up fo that feature? correct?
[12:14] <Innatech> yes.
[12:14] <K3nto> use gizmocall
[12:14] <K3nto> pc-any phone in the world for free
[12:14] <K3nto> 4 minutes per day at least
[12:15] <K3nto> or pc-pc calls
[12:15] <Innatech> There's also FWD.
[12:15] <Flare183> I still can't get this Compiz thing to work, every time i run either beryl or compiz they make the title bar on the windows disappear!
[12:15] <raven3x7> r00t__, looks cool if install kde ill give it a try
[12:15] <raven3x7> i
[12:15] <K3nto> !azureus
[12:15] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[12:15] <r00t__> yeah, i am working on getting it to work in Gnome
[12:16] <crdlb> crdlb, skype is probably your best bet; you can sign up without giving them a credit card number, so they can't charge you
[12:16] <tcgamer> how do i install mumble?
[12:16] <r00t__> it works but no transparency to it
[12:16] <holycow> !flvtool2
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flvtool2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Innatech> tcgamer: You'd have to read the docs, and you'd need a server to host it (I'd imagine.)
[12:16] <tcgamer> ouch
[12:16] <Flare183> r00__:> well how did you get yours to work?
[12:17] <Flare183> r00t__:> well how did you get yours to work?
[12:17] <r00t__> Flare183, you mean (yakuake)?
[12:17] <raven3x7> r00t__, kinda looses its flair without it
[12:17] <raven3x7> brb
[12:17] <Flare183> root:>no Compiz
[12:17] <tcgamer> how do I install a .deb?
[12:17] <r00t__> raven3x7, yeah
[12:18] <Innatech> tcgamer: man dpkg
[12:18] <tcgamer> man dpkg?
[12:18] <crdlb> tcgamer, you can just double click on it
[12:18] <tcgamer> oh
[12:18] <r00t__> Compiz? sorry you lost me
[12:18] <Flare183> I am talking about Compiz the Window Manager (I think) it's like a window decorator
[12:18] <vlt|home> Hello. I'm using Dapper and Edgy. Sometimes when trying to download a file with KDE's Konqueror it opens in the editor kate. How can I avoid this and get a "save to" dialog instead? wget doesn't work here because the dowload page needs a login, and even curl failes when handling this dirty hack of download page. Any idea?
[12:18] <Innatech> tcgamer: the command "man dpkg" will show you the manual page for "dpkg" which installs and removes .deb's.
[12:19] <codecaine> tcgam dpkg -i packagename.deb
[12:19] <K3nto> bittornado is telling me 23 hours for 16mb program
[12:19] <r00t__> Flare183, for linux; or Ubuntu in this case, i use the window themes that are built in
[12:20] <jacob333_> hi all
[12:20] <K3nto> and now its back to 3h
[12:20] <Flare183> I know
[12:20] <r00t__> othar than that nothing
[12:20] <r00t__> i am still rather new to this
[12:20] <WannabeNewbie> I need some tech help if anyone is capable please! I am running Ubuntu 7.04 64bit version. My screen is very jump when scrolling windows and moving them. Is there a fix for this?
[12:20] <Flare183> I want the transparency windows
[12:20] <jacob333_> How do completely wipe the xorg.config back to system normal
[12:20] <Innatech> k3nto: torrents are like that. The swarm is unstable.
[12:20] <codecaine> K3nto torrents vary on seeds and upload speed
[12:20] <tiagoboldt> does anyone know how can I create a multi part archive? zip/rar/.. ?
[12:20] <tcgamer> is it going to affect the security of my system if I setup a Mumble server?
[12:20] <K3nto> okay
[12:21] <tcgamer> ?
[12:21] <Innatech> tcgamer: hard to say. I have no idea how mature the code is, and if the team is auditing it for security.
[12:21] <K3nto> im having a problem launching WoW:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2238090&posted=1#post2238090
[12:21] <r00t__> oh, i was talkin about the terminal emulator, but there is a wondow that looks transparent on gnome-looks.org i believe
[12:21] <codecaine> u can wine install winrar tiagoboldt
[12:21] <tiagoboldt> codecaine, *G* nothing native?
[12:21] <Flare183> compiz and beryl support that feature its just that i can't get neither of them to work
[12:21] <vlt|home> tiagoboldt: You could pipe "tar"'s aoutput to "split".
[12:21] <codecaine> not that I know of
[12:21] <r00t__> i will look into it
[12:21] <r00t__> sounds nice
[12:22] <tiagoboldt> vlt|home, need something that will work in windows, easily
[12:22] <tcgamer> so if i use skype, i can't accidently charge crap..
[12:22] <JosefK> tiagoboldt, if you install 'zip' and 'unzip' GNOMEs archive manager can do what you need
[12:22] <Innatech> tcgamer: not until you sign up for a premium service.
[12:22] <vlt|home> tiagoboldt: "type archive.parts* > whole_file.tgz" will work on windows, too
[12:23] <tcgamer> can i talk in a group?
[12:23] <Innatech> tcgamer: even then, I think they use declining balance accounts you have to refill, so you won't ring up your credit card accidently.
[12:23] <tiagoboldt> JosefK, I already got them, but it doens't split in parts the file.. I guess, I already tried that.. :\
[12:23] <tcgamer> on skype?
[12:23] <WannabeNewbie> Anyone know how to fix a jumpy screen when scrolling and moving windows?
[12:23] <sotec> i have a beryl question
[12:23] <Zambezi> Anyone here running E17 and now how to automatically generates the menus again? It doesn't add applications I just installed.
[12:23] <sotec> how to you start beryl?
[12:24] <Flare183> open the terminal and type in beryl
[12:24] <JosefK> tiagoboldt, "man zip"
[12:24] <funesto> sigh.
[12:24] <Flare183> !beryl
[12:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:24] <sotec> Flare, thanks
[12:24] <jacob333_> how do i stop beryl
[12:24] <JosefK> tiagoboldt, it explains how to split an archive in there :)
[12:24] <tcgamer> ok i'm installing mumble and it says dependency..blah blah libasound2
[12:24] <tiagoboldt> tks : )
[12:24] <sotec> Flare, with the !?
[12:24] <TheVault> Got a question. In Windows, your able to customize your touchpad so you go forward or backwards using the upper portion of your touchpad. Is there a program for ubuntu that allows you to do that to?
[12:24] <Gin> hi
[12:24] <K3nto> so my torrent should speed up in no time?
[12:24] <Gin> what's the tool called to change compiz' settings?
[12:24] <Flare183> soctoc:>asks the bot for help
[12:25] <Flare183> like this !bots
[12:25] <tiagoboldt> JosefK, zipsplit :D tks;)
[12:25] <Flare183> !bots
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Flare183> crap
[12:25] <Flare183> sorry well anyway that
[12:25] <martalli> !compiz
[12:25] <erUSUL> !ubotu
[12:25] <funesto> could anyone give me a hand with the following message i get while booting the 64-bit Desktop CD (6.10)? "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off."
[12:25] <K3nto> !anything
[12:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Flare183> there you go
[12:25] <r00t__> flare183, what version of linux are you running?
[12:25] <Flare183> Edgy Eft
[12:25] <sotec> yea....that just killed something. i have no more gnome....
[12:25] <sotec> awesome
[12:26] <tcgamer> what happens if i'm missing a dependecy???? :(
[12:26] <d0dge> What was the command for a shortcut that makes the program use different charset? Like "irssi" and ISO-8859-1
[12:26] <tcgamer> can i get it somewhere?
[12:26] <r00t__> me to, have you checked in Synaptic yet?
[12:26] <Flare183> root:>edgy
[12:26] <JosefK> sotec, 'killall beryl; metacity &'
[12:26] <r00t__> it si there for me, have not installed it yet, but it is there
[12:26] <K3nto> so you have to register and buy crossover in order to download it?
[12:26] <tcgamer> how do you solve a missing dependency?????
[12:27] <sotec> Flare, i got this:
[12:27] <sotec> Detected xserver                                : AIGLX
[12:27] <sotec> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for XComposite extension               : passed (v0.3)
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for XDamage extension                  : passed
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for RandR extension                    : passed
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for XSync extension                    : passed
[12:27] <sotec> Checking Screen 0 ...
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for GLX_SGIX_fbconfig                  : passed
[12:27] <JosefK> !flood
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap        : passed
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:27] <sotec> Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed
[12:27] <sotec> Support for non power of two textures missing
[12:27] <vlt|home> tcgamer: I'd reccomend aptitude instead of apt-get
[12:27] <sotec> beryl: glXBindTexImageEXT is missing
[12:27] <sotec> beryl: Failed to manage screen: 0
[12:27] <sotec> beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[12:27] <tcgamer> ?
[12:27] <Flare183> sotec:>that's what i get too when i run beryl
[12:27] <tcgamer> i just downloaded it through firefox... :)
[12:27] <Flare183> and compiz
[12:27] <tcgamer> is that bad?
[12:27] <vlt|home> tcgamer: You can use it just like apt-get or in gui mode.
[12:28] <sotec> Flare, so that means it wont work under my hardware config?
[12:28] <sotec> and I should delete it?
[12:28] <tcgamer> vlt|home, i don't understand...I shouldn't download through my browser?
[12:28] <sotec> or is there a workaround?
[12:28] <Flare183> no but i don't know
[12:28] <Flare183> thats my problem i can't get either of them to work
[12:28] <tcgamer> vlt|home, I should aptitude "download location?"
[12:28] <sotec> bummer
[12:28] <Flare183> without them crashing metacity
[12:28] <Tangee> good
[12:29] <Flare183> I know
[12:29] <Tangee> im getting the white screen of death with Beryl & XGL & flgrx...any solutions? tried downgrading beryl from 1.9999.2 to 1.99.2 but no
[12:29] <sotec> i'll try the troubleshooting forums
[12:29] <Flare183> already hhave
[12:29] <Flare183> sotec:>i already have
[12:29] <sotec> ah
[12:29] <holycow> Tangee, #ubuntu-beryl and #beryl, also get an an nvidia card
[12:29] <sotec> bummer
[12:29] <Flare183> no luck
[12:29] <maddler> Tangee: start beryl with --use-copy
[12:29] <sotec> how do i kill it then?
[12:29] <Tangee> really slow then no?
[12:29] <sotec> log out?
[12:30] <Flare183> don't know
[12:30] <sotec> lol
[12:30] <sotec> nice
[12:30] <shatrat> its not #ubuntu-beryl its #ubuntu-effects
[12:30] <Tangee> and laptop aith ati card so nvidia card might be a bit costly due to the attached new laptop :)
[12:30] <maddler> Tangee: with --use-copy?
[12:30] <vlt|home> tcgamer: No, sorry, I just read your last question ... But maybe you should look for "build-dep" .. or similar ...
[12:30] <TheVault> Got a question. Are you able to edit your touchpad so you can go forward or backwards by tapping the corners?
[12:30] <sotec> i made sure i disabled the auto start
[12:30] <sotec> i'll log out
[12:30] <sotec> should have gnome back
[12:30] <r00t__> irc://#compiz@irc.freenode.net
[12:30] <Flare183> root:> what are you doing?
[12:31] <tcgamer> vlt|home, i just downloaded it through firefox and.....missing dependency :)
[12:31] <Flare183> root:> is that were we can find the answers?
[12:31] <tcgamer> vlt|home, now what?
[12:31] <Flare183> sotec:> did it work?
[12:31] <JosefK> if only oracle didn't use a stupidly large menu entry :(
[12:31] <sotec> this is fantastic.
[12:31] <sotec> no
[12:31] <tcgamer> vlt|home, libasound2?
[12:31] <sotec> it didn't
[12:31] <r00t__> not yet, still looking at it
[12:31] <sotec> i have no window dressings
[12:31] <tcgamer> vlt|home, that is the dependency
[12:31] <Flare183> sotec:> see what i mean
[12:31] <Dante123> hi all.......sometimes the "security features" of ubuntu bother me....since I am used to another distro that automatically gives me all root priviledges....however...I'm sure this is doable....just something I need to learn:  I want to copy some files into a directory (/usr/share/games/netpanzer/maps) but it says I don't have permission to do so........is there anyway I can enable permissions for myself so that I can do this via GU
[12:31] <Dante123> big fan of command line?
[12:31] <sotec> can't move anything
[12:32] <Flare183> no luck
[12:32] <Flare183> run metacity
[12:32] <funesto>  could anyone give me a hand with the following message i get while booting the 64-bit Desktop CD (6.10)? "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off."
[12:32] <sotec> can't alt-tab
[12:32] <r00t__> i found an irc, but no dice, bad address
[12:32] <Flare183> run metacity
[12:32] <malefactor> Dante123: man sudo
[12:32] <sotec> how?
[12:32] <r00t__> be back
[12:32] <Dante123> malefactor....you mean go to terminal and type in sudo?
[12:32] <erUSUL> Dante123: run a 'gksudo nautilus'
[12:32] <sotec> i can't even open a terminal now
[12:32] <Flare183> add the run applet to your panel and then run metacity
[12:32] <DemisM> how can I add Xgl to my sessions?
[12:32] <malefactor> Dante123: yes
[12:32] <TheVault> Can someone please help me. Is it possible to make the touchpad go forward or backwards by tapping the top corners? I see no options for allowing me to do this? Can you do this with ubuntu?
[12:32] <Innatech> Dantel: you might want to read the manual, but yes.
[12:32] <malefactor> Dante123: or 'sudo su'
[12:33] <vlt|home> tcgamer: Then you'll have to compile libasound2, too, or get a deb package somewhere.
[12:33] <vlt|home> !marillat | tcgamer
[12:33] <ubotu> tcgamer: marillat is a repository created for Debian. Please don't use it on Ubuntu. Consider using !seveas or !plf
[12:33] <Dante123> will the "move" have to be done via command line?
[12:33] <sotec> alt-f2 doesn't work either, wtf?
[12:33] <atarinox> can somebody tell me real quick how to change the permissions of a directory to read/write?
[12:33] <atarinox> in command
[12:33] <Flare183> right click on the bottom panel and click add to panel
[12:33] <Innatech> Dantel: you could use su to start another instance of your preferred file manager, w/root permissions.
[12:33] <Flare183> then click on run application
[12:33] <malefactor> Dante123: better use cp and rm
[12:34] <DemisM> how can I add Xgl to my sessions?
[12:34] <tcgamer> vlt|home, could you walk me through this...i'm still in the n00blet stage
[12:34] <sotec> nice!
[12:34] <sotec> haha, thaks Flare
[12:34] <jrib> atarinox: what directory?
[12:34] <TheVault> Can someone help me please?
[12:34] <sotec> i think i'll leave the run applet in the tray :D
[12:34] <malefactor> TheVault: with?
[12:35] <Flare183> sotec:>welcome that's what happened to me and that's what i done
[12:35] <Flare183> yeah
[12:35] <Flannel> !synaptics | TheVault
[12:35] <Flare183> good idea
[12:35] <ubotu> TheVault: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:35] <Innatech> malefactor: TV wants to be able to invert his touchpad.
[12:35] <TheVault> Thanks guys
[12:35] <sotec> damn. so i can't run beryl.
[12:35] <sotec> bummer
[12:35] <malefactor> Innatech: ugh, not that I can help, so sorry
[12:35] <sotec> is there a gui settings for beryl?
[12:35] <Flare183> sotec:> i know same thing happens
[12:36] <erUSUL> sotec: beryl-manager
[12:36] <tcgamer> vlt|home, I'm A NOOB could you explain it in more detail?
[12:36] <guillem101> how can I configure qt-4 based apps fonts?
[12:36] <Flare183> hold on all
[12:36] <Dante123> thanks erUSUL and malefactor....gksudo nautilus seemed to do the trick!  :-)
[12:36] <guillem101> I've compiled LyX 1.5.0-beta and fonts look ugly... (blurry)
[12:36] <tcgamer> VLT?
[12:36] <tcgamer> VLT?
[12:37] <atarinox> jrib: /media/network
[12:37] <sotec> Flare, and you've played with all the beryl settings?
[12:37] <nigra> hi,anyone using dapper on laptop?
[12:37] <sotec> and is your linux kernel/headers updated ?
[12:38] <jrib> atarinox: what filesystem is that using?
[12:38] <tcgamer> how do i install a missing dependency
[12:38] <tcgamer> do i just go to synaptic?
[12:38] <Gin> !xfce
[12:38] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:39] <atarinox> jrib: don't know...i'm running xubuntu edgy
[12:39] <riaal> what command is use to unrar??
[12:39] <jrib> !unrar | riaal
[12:39] <Gin> riaal: rar e file.rar
[12:39] <ubotu> riaal: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:39] <jrib> atarinox: what does this return:   mount | grep /media/network
[12:39] <towsonu2003> !info unrar-free
[12:39] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:39] <Flare183> yes and with no luck
[12:40] <riaal> what apt-get command?
[12:40] <atarinox> jrib: nothing...
[12:40] <nigra> I want to go back to dapper from edgy but when using dapper, power manager was refusing to take any action
[12:40] <nigra> when the battery reaches critical action. For only this reason, i had to switch to edgy, and I want dapper back. Is there anyone
[12:40] <nigra> experiencing this problem?
[12:40] <towsonu2003> riaal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:40] <sotec> i set beryl to start other WM on crash...
[12:41] <Flannel> nigra: downgrading isn't supported.  However, you should check out launchpad to see if anyone has reported that bug, and what the workarounds may be
[12:41] <Flare183> sotec:> i did too check off metacity
[12:41] <vlt|home> tcgamer: I didn't read anything before "how to solve a missing dependency?". What do want to install?
[12:41] <SpaceBass> anyone know how to bind my 6.10 server to an ldap server? any good guides?
[12:41] <sotec> this time starting beryl, it didn't even find the XComposite extention
[12:41] <vavroom> hello all, I hope someone might be able to point me in the right direction.  First, I must admit to be a total and utter n00b with Linux/Ubuntu.  I have managed to install two different keyboard layouts (US and US-International).  I can't seem to be able to switch between keyboards though.  reading the manual/helpfile wasn't helpful.  seems I need an applet of some sort, but I am unsure where to get it, how to put it in, nor how to u
[12:41] <sotec> oh well.
[12:42] <d0dge> Can someone help me with this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:42] <Flare183> sotec:> i don't know what to do about it
[12:42] <d0dge> Im trying to run gtmess
[12:42] <malefactor> vavroom: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts ?
[12:42] <tcgamer> vlt|home, mumble
[12:43] <tp241303> can someone please help me i am trying to figure out why my computer randomly freezes when running ubuntu
[12:43] <sotec> yea, nothing
[12:43] <sotec> damn
[12:43] <vlt|home> tcgamer: Don't know it. What's the problem?
[12:43] <Flare183> sotec:> yeah
[12:43] <vavroom> malefactor, for some reason, if I go that way, it doesn't keep the details.  plus, it gets cumbersome to switch keyboard that way.  keyboard shortcut would be ideal
[12:43] <tcgamer> vlt|home, it says: Error dependency not satisfiable: libasound2
[12:44] <K3nto> bittornado is going far too slow
[12:44] <nigra> Flannel: there is only one bug and no info,workaround on the net and the person that filed the bug couldn't find
[12:44] <nigra> useful info form system log, like me. My intention is to do a fresh install of dapper if I can hear any solution from here
[12:44] <vlt|home> tcgamer: So install it.
[12:44] <K3nto> does anybody have crossover office? ... :-D
[12:44] <tcgamer> vlt|home, i cant
[12:44] <vlt|home> tcgamer: `sudo aptitude install libasound2` doesn't work?
[12:44] <jrib> !info libasound2
[12:44] <ubotu> libasound2: ALSA library. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 316 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:44] <tp241303> my machine will randomly hard lock when running ubuntu this can occur at anytime and i can not seem to diagnose what is causing it i think it might be something with my graphics card (nvidia) not wanting to get along with my mother board which has ati chipset on the north ans south bridge
[12:45] <tp241303> any help would be greatly appreciated
[12:45] <cliebow_> c
[12:45] <jrib> tp241303: are you using the free or proprietary drivers?
[12:45] <sotec> removing it
[12:45] <vlt|home> tp241303: Did you check RAM with memtest86+?
[12:45] <tp241303> proprietary
[12:45] <tp241303> yes
[12:45] <vavroom> ack, people @ the door, gotta go.  thanks
[12:45] <sotec> until i get some sort of a solid fix for beryl
[12:45] <jrib> tp241303: see if it happens with the free ones
[12:46] <tp241303> with the free ones the machine will not run any graphics at all
[12:46] <K3nto> !pls
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <tcgamer> vlt|home, how od i install from terminal
[12:46] <tcgamer> vlt|home, it updated the package
[12:46] <jrib> tp241303: X doesn't load?
[12:46] <vlt|home> [00:44]  <vlt|home> tcgamer: `sudo aptitude install libasound2`
[12:46] <tcgamer> vlt|home, everything is fine but it still won't let me install
[12:46] <tp241303> no x does not load
[12:46] <flamesrock> quick question: what program can I use to capture and encode video from my camera device?
[12:46] <jrib> tp241303: weird, what card is this?
[12:47] <sotec> lmao, now how to i remove it? Synaptic?
[12:47] <K3nto> !.pls
[12:47] <tp241303> 7800 gt
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <raven3x7> ok whats up with ubuntu only having an alpha build of anjuta
[12:47] <karsten> flamesrock: kino
[12:47] <tcgamer> vlt|home, it installs fine...but the .deb still doesn't like it
[12:47] <flamesrock> thanks karsten, I'll try that
[12:47] <nigra> Please! is there anyone using dapper whose laptop does not take action when battery level is critical?
[12:47] <vlt|home> tcgamer: Is it a .deb for Edgy? Are you on Edgy?
[12:47] <K3nto> does somebody have crossover office?
[12:47] <tcgamer> idk
[12:47] <tcgamer> how do i find out?
[12:48] <Flannel> !anyone | K3nto
[12:48] <ubotu> K3nto: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:48] <tcgamer> i think it is dapper
[12:48] <tcgamer> i'm quite sure it is dapper
[12:48] <tcgamer> vlt|home, its dapper
[12:48] <jrib> tp241303: what version of ubuntu?
[12:48] <K3nto> lol that is the question
[12:48] <riaal> keep getting "failed" whit unrar-free?
[12:48] <K3nto> i have to pm the rest
[12:48] <vlt|home> tcgamer: So is it a .deb for Dapper?
[12:48] <jrib> riaal: unrar-free doesn't do 3.0 rars....
[12:48] <riaal> using the command " unrar-free -x *.r00
[12:48] <tp241303> edgy 64 bit
[12:48] <riaal> jrib, what shall I use?
[12:49] <jrib> riaal: unrar-nonfree
[12:49] <sotec> Flare, have you tried opening up Synaptic and searching for beryl? there's about 20 different plugins and othe packages that weren't installed with the wiki's install tutorial....think that could be an issue? think beryl needs more input?
[12:49] <Sivako> Hi
[12:49] <jrib> riaal: it's just "unrar" in recent releases
[12:49] <SpaceBass> anyone have a clue what the apt-get for the development packages on 6.10 server might be? I need gcc and make, etc
[12:49] <tcgamer> vlt|home, it is for edgy :(
[12:49] <K3nto> Flannel: could somebody send me crossover office?
[12:49] <tcgamer> vlt|home, is there no hope?
[12:49] <erUSUL> SpaceBass: build-essential
[12:49] <jrib> tp241303: you might want to try a later version of the nvidia drivers then.  From experience, I've had certain nvidia driver versions cause X to lock up on me
[12:50] <Sivako> Hey, can some1 help me out?
[12:50] <riaal> jrib, can't find it, what "unviverce"?
[12:50] <matthew1429> where do I find my camera if I have hooked it into my computer through usb?  I want to pull the pictures off of it
[12:50] <SpaceBass> erUSUL, thanks!
[12:50] <jrib> riaal: it's in multiverse
[12:50] <K3nto> Sivako: with what
[12:50] <riaal> oh
[12:50] <jrib> matthew1429: /media
[12:50] <tcgamer> vlt|home, is this whole package hopeless?????????
[12:50] <matthew1429> jrib: thaks
[12:50] <vlt|home> tcgamer: hmmm, you could manually upgrade all dependencies to their required minimum version for the edgy .deb ...
[12:50] <tp241303> i have tried the latest driver from nvidia's site and installing vie envy
[12:50] <Sivako> Im running windows atm, im about to partition my drive for the first time and install thiss linux, can you help me?
[12:50] <Flare183> yeah only that their are many repositories
[12:50] <K3nto> Sivako yep
[12:50] <tcgamer> vlt|home, how would i do that as a n00blet?
[12:50] <K3nto> i did the same thing a little while ago
[12:51] <vlt|home> tcgamer: Seems to be only libasound2 missing in recent version
[12:51] <raven3x7> jrib my TNT card had that problem for years on every version. and ppl actually think nvidia drivers are good
[12:51] <jrib> tp241303: nothing interesting in your logs just before the crash?
[12:51] <Flare183> by the way i am using an ATI Graphics card
[12:51] <cello_rasp> how come my apps look different when run with sudo, and how do i fix this?
[12:51] <K3nto> did you make a LiveCD with the version of ubuntu you want?
[12:51] <tp241303> no nothing interesting at all i've looked
[12:51] <eck> cello_rasp: ln -s /root/.themes /home/your_user/.themes
[12:51] <jacob333> Hello.
[12:51] <Toma-> cello_rasp: run them with gksudo
[12:51] <tcgamer> vlt|home, i just don't know what is wrong, i updated the libasound2!
[12:51] <Sivako> Not yet, i will is a sec, talki n a private chatwith me, easier to see
[12:51] <tp241303> no errors or anything
[12:51] <cello_rasp> thx eck
[12:51] <Flannel> K3nto: Crossover office isn't free, that'd be illegal.  Are you sure you need it?  And OpenOffice (or others) can't do what you need?
[12:51] <jrib> tp241303: did it happen on dapper (if you used it)?
[12:52] <jacob333> How do i reset the whole xorg.config file
[12:52] <eck> that will set root's gtk theme to whatever you are using
[12:52] <tp241303> i never used dapper
[12:52] <sotec> yea
[12:52] <jacob333> so that its to the state that it was when i installed the nvidia driver
[12:52] <eck> you probably have to run it with sudo
[12:52] <matthew1429> so my camera is supposed to auto appear
[12:52] <Toma-> eck: shopuldnt it be the other way round?
[12:52] <eck> err, yes
[12:52] <Flannel> cello_rasp: use gksudo to run them, that should fix it.
[12:52] <eck> Toma-: thank you :-)
[12:52] <gcbirzan> Gah. How can one compile a module without the silly stack protector stuff? Talking about alsa, in particular... I do think it's using -fno-stack-protector, but the kernel build isn't that verbose. Anyway, it still tries to reference __stack_chk_fail.
[12:52] <Toma-> ;)
[12:52] <sotec> so what is the debug version of a file?
[12:52] <SpaceBass> man apt-get is amazing when it works!
[12:52] <jrib> tp241303: hmm idk.  I can't really guess what it is.  If I were you, I'd try herd5 on a seperate partition for a while to see if the problem has been fixed
[12:52] <sotec> and why weren't they installed with beryl?
[12:53] <riaal> jrib, can you post a multiverse address please?
[12:53] <vlt|home> tcgamer: You updated it? To what version?
[12:53] <tp241303> i thought about that
[12:53] <jrib> !multiverse | riaal
[12:53] <ubotu> riaal: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:53] <K3nto> Flannel: i need crossover office to run world of warcraft
[12:53] <Agrajag> No you don't.
[12:53] <tp241303> thanx for your help jrib
[12:53] <tcgamer> vlt|home, the only one i could find
[12:53] <nigra> jacob333: check your /etc/X11/ directory. there should be automatic backups of that xorg.conf
[12:53] <Sivako> K3nto
[12:53] <Sivako> how do i regester it?
[12:53] <tcgamer> vlt|home, i just typed in what you said...that is an update right?
[12:53] <Flannel> K3nto: You don't.  WoW works on wine just fine.
[12:53] <Agrajag> K3nto: wine will run that perfectly well.
[12:53] <riaal> !sourcelist
[12:53] <vlt|home> tcgamer: No that was an "install if not already done"
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <tcgamer> oh
[12:54] <Sivako> K3nto how do i regester?
[12:54] <tcgamer> vlt|home, how do i update then?????????????????????????
[12:54] <riaal> whats the URL to that scourcelist thing?
[12:54] <K3nto> Flannel: it doesnt work for me
[12:54] <Sivako> K3nto how do i regester?
[12:54] <khaije> !apt-sources
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-sources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <vlt|home> tcgamer: "Updating" a package isn't that easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!11111!!!one!!!
[12:54] <khaije> !sources.list
[12:54] <riaal> !EasySource
[12:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:54] <K3nto> Sivako: "/msg NickServ REGISTER YOURPASSWORD
[12:54] <K3nto> no quote
[12:55] <tcgamer> vlt|home, your a genius you can help me!
[12:55] <Flannel> K3nto: It works for everyone else, so it is possible.  You should try asking in #winehq, theyd be able to help, quite aptly, I imagine
[12:55] <tcgamer> vlt|home, its one file though...we can do it!
[12:55] <Flare183> i will looks some more but for now bye all
[12:55] <K3nto> Flannel: okay thanks
[12:55] <grayman> !nvidia
[12:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <kupesoft> I just set up a serial console (/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 38400 vt100), but when I access it, it isn't "interactive" - that is, data isn't sent until a lineending is found. Is this normal? Can I change this behavior?
[12:55] <jacob333> nigra: ok i have 2 of then
[12:55] <jacob333> them*
[12:56] <Sivako> K3nto, can u see it now?
[12:56] <eck> i just compiled screen with 256 color support and now i am one happy camper
[12:56] <tcgamer> vlt|home, lets do it!
[12:56] <sotec> how do i remove beryl and ALL dependencies?
[12:57] <lufi1> sotec:try sudo aptitude remove beryl
[12:57] <SpaceBass> anyone know how to bind my 6.10 server to an ldap server? any good guides?
[12:57] <sotec> thanks
[12:57] <tcgamer> vlt|home, U THERE?
[12:57] <tcgamer> vlt|home, did you just leave me :) ????
[12:58] <cello_rasp> er, i run synaptic with gksu and the theme is different, how can i change this
[12:58] <sotec> that only removed beryl-manager and beryl...there are a few other files that were installed with it, including emerald themes
[12:58] <sotec> i don't want any of it
[12:58] <lufi1> sotec: yeah, emerald-themes isn't a dependency
[12:59] <lufi1> did you follow a guide? just change "install" to "remove" for everything you installed
[12:59] <lufi1> for all the commands
[12:59] <sotec> ah
[12:59] <tcgamer> vlt|home, could the real vlt please stand up???!??!?!?
[12:59] <sergiu[busy] > hello , i want to install an another distro but i want to save my some info, can make another partition and install new distro then delete the old distro
[01:00] <mptech> is there a way to install ubuntu with X?
[01:00] <lufi1> sergiu[busy] : if you have your home directory on its own partition, you can leave it and reformat everything else.
[01:00] <sotec> well, i used the beryl-install-script to invoke the install....
[01:00] <lufi1> mptech: what do you mean?
[01:00] <lufi1> sotec: one sec
[01:00] <sotec> ok
[01:01] <mptech> lufi1, I mean installing from the livecd
[01:01] <mptech> without starting the X server on it
[01:01] <lufi1> mptech: oh, hm, i don't know. i think you'd have to get the alternate installer iso
[01:01] <Flannel> mptech: no you need the alternate CD
[01:02] <Xzenome> mptech, I think you have to get the alt installer
[01:02] <p47> I have edgy and now I hace problems, my intnernet is slow... can you hel me please ?
[01:02] <Flannel> mptech: or the minimal CD (which is alternate sans on-CD packages)
[01:02] <tcgamer> can someone show me how to update a dependency???????
[01:02] <tcgamer> i just need 1!!!!!!!
[01:02] <mptech> Flannel, is it possible to install ubuntu from a chroot environment?
[01:02] <lufi1> tcgamer: sudo apt-get update ?
[01:02] <lufi1> upgrade, i mean
[01:02] <Flannel> !install | mptech, yep.  here's a bunch of methods
[01:02] <ubotu> mptech, yep.  here's a bunch of methods: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:03] <K3nto> Flannel: lol nobody in winehq will help
[01:03] <jrib> tcgamer: what are you trying to install?
[01:03] <tcgamer> libasound2
[01:03] <tcgamer> i just need to update it
[01:03] <jrib> tcgamer: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <SpaceBass> anyone know how I can apt-get for openldap?
[01:03] <jrib> tcgamer: and your error too
[01:04] <Xzenome> SpaceBass, have you tried sudo apt-get install openldap
[01:04] <ZeeO> who can help me with pure-ftpd-mysql
[01:04] <tcgamer> jrib,it just says dependency is not satisfiable
[01:04] <SpaceBass> Xzenome, yeah...no package
[01:04] <p47> ubuntu gave me a slow connection, can you help me ?
[01:04] <jacob333> how do i stop x
[01:04] <jrib> tcgamer: ok, but pastebin the actual error, don't paraphrase
[01:04] <Flannel> K3nto: Check the forums (ubuntuforums.org), theres a few step by step howtos there
[01:04] <jrib> jacob333: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:04] <tcgamer> jrib, i installed it by double clicking...
[01:04] <tcgamer> jrib, that is all if have
[01:05] <tcgamer> i*
[01:05] <jrib> tcgamer: double clicking what?
[01:05] <tcgamer> jrib, it is a .deb file
[01:05] <sotec> lufil, i have an even more important question....will the radeon driver that beryl installed still be there after i remove beryl? and will that have an effect on my gaming?
[01:05] <jrib> tcgamer: what is?
[01:05] <sotec> better/worse?
[01:05] <lufi1> sotec: here, follow this, but replace "install" with "remove" on the sudo apt-get commands
[01:05] <jrib> libasound2?
[01:05] <sotec> lufil, listening...
[01:05] <tcgamer> jrib, i'm trying to install mumble
[01:05] <Xzenome> SpaceBass, it looks like you might have to compile it.
[01:05] <tcgamer> jrib, but that is the missing dependency...
[01:05] <lufi1> sotec: oh, heh, let me paste the link ;) http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[01:05] <sotec> lol
[01:05] <sotec> thanks
[01:05] <lufi1> :P
[01:05] <jrib> tcgamer: apt-cache policy libasound2
[01:06] <tcgamer> type that
[01:06] <tcgamer> ?
[01:06] <williammanda> i'm new to linux...can someone tell me how to setup a local printer for a home network?
[01:06] <matthew1429> do i have to mount a camera when I connect it through usb?
[01:06] <jrib> tcgamer: yes and tell me what it says
[01:06] <matthew1429> or does it auto connect?
[01:06] <matthew1429> it's not appearing
[01:06] <jrib> !paste | tcgamer
[01:06] <ubotu> tcgamer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <lufi1> matthew1429: it's mounted anyway
[01:06] <drin> question, what is a good newsgroup binaries download program for ubuntu edgy eft install?
[01:06] <lufi1> matthew1429: what kind of camera? does it operate on usb mass storage or do you know?
[01:06] <matthew1429> lufi1: how do I find it?  btw is that a veggietls name?
[01:07] <matthew1429> it's a sony dsch2
[01:07] <tcgamer> jrib, before i do that...I want to let you know..the package is for edgy...i have dapper
[01:07] <matthew1429> yeah, it has that as an option i believe
[01:07] <linuxnewbie756> what is a good way to take video of of my minidv camcorder and editing it, and then exporting it as an iso image?
[01:07] <lufi1> matthew1429: no actually... my username is "lucis", luc = light. but lucis is taken so i take the next best thing
[01:07] <jrib> tcgamer: ok well that's probably why
[01:07] <sotec> so far, so good
[01:07] <tcgamer> jrib, that is y i need to update~
[01:07] <lufi1> matthew1429: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:07] <sotec> found all the files it downloaded with it and are removing :D
[01:07] <tcgamer> jrib, its just one file
[01:07] <sotec> done
[01:08] <sotec> thanks lufil
[01:08] <lufi1> sotec: np :)
[01:08] <matthew1429> edgy, i switched it to mass and a dialog popped up
[01:08] <tcgamer> jrib, so am i thinking on the right track?
[01:08] <matthew1429> :)
[01:08] <lufi1> matthew1429: yeah :)
[01:08] <Xzenome> SpaceBass, I think the package could be called ldap-server
[01:08] <tcgamer> jrib, if i update....it will be fixed right
[01:08] <mindstate> is it possible to create symbolic links to and from hidden directories?
[01:08] <jrib> tcgamer: I'll let you know after you tell me the output
[01:08] <lufi1> matthew1429: it will treat it like a drive, be sure to unmount it before you unplug it though
[01:08] <jrib> tcgamer: update to edgy you mean?
[01:08] <tcgamer> libasound2:
[01:08] <tcgamer>   Installed: 1.0.10-2ubuntu4
[01:08] <tcgamer>   Candidate: 1.0.10-2ubuntu4
[01:08] <tcgamer>   Version table:
[01:08] <tcgamer>  *** 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 0
[01:08] <tcgamer>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[01:08] <tcgamer>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:08] <linuxnewbie756> how can i edit take video off of my camcorder through firewire and edit it?
[01:08] <jrib> tcgamer: don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:08] <mindstate> !past | tcgamer
[01:08] <sotec> now i think i'll follow that tutorial and try to reinstall beryl
[01:08] <lufi1> matthew1429: i hate gthumb myself, i just open the folder with nautilus and eye of gnome
[01:08] <sotec> lol
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <tcgamer> jrib, sorry
[01:09] <mindstate> oops lol
[01:09] <mindstate> forgot the e
[01:09] <sotec> thanks lufil, i'll report the chaos....
[01:09] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: kino does that, i think.
[01:09] <lufi1> :)
[01:09] <matthew1429> yeah lufi :)
[01:09] <matthew1429> you helped me to, auto wasnt working
[01:09] <matthew1429> is that lufi from veggie tales?
[01:09] <jrib> tcgamer: yes, your thinking is correct.  It will probably work if you update to edgy.  Alternatively you can see if there is a version of mumbles that doesn't need such a recent version of libasound2 and compile it yourself on dapper
[01:09] <lufi1> matthew1429: i haven't seen veggie tales in quite some time :P
[01:10] <matthew1429> hehe
[01:10] <p47> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa------- HELP !
[01:10] <tcgamer> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8291/
[01:10] <tcgamer> jrib, is updating to edgy easy??? :)
[01:10] <Xzenome> p47, what's wrong?
[01:10] <Xzenome> tcgamer, as easy as piss
[01:11] <tcgamer> how easy is that?
[01:11] <Xzenome> tcgamer, really
[01:11] <Agrajag> well, 2-year-olds can do it without making a mess generally
[01:11] <jrib> !upgrade | tcgamer
[01:11] <ubotu> tcgamer: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:11] <Xzenome> tcgamer, gksudo update-manager -c
[01:11] <tcgamer> really
[01:11] <tcgamer> sounds good...
[01:11] <tcgamer> i like that..
[01:11] <djeff> hello?
[01:11] <p47> Xzenome: some hours ago I had breeze, and all work's fine, now with  edgy, the internet is very slow
[01:11] <Xzenome> djeff, hello.
[01:12] <p47> slow slow
[01:12] <tcgamer> jrib, any good news?
[01:12] <tcgamer> jrib, b2b
[01:12] <jacob333> can you tell me how to stop the x server again?
[01:12] <djeff> someone can help me with CVS & CVSD ???
[01:12] <tcgamer> jrib, i'll let you mow on it for a while
[01:12] <tcgamer> jrib, brb
[01:12] <Xzenome> p47, wierd, have you tried tweaking firefox to use piplining?
[01:13] <drin> Anyone in here know a widely accepted Usenet / newsgroup binary download client?
[01:14] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, I installed kino, but it doesn't seem to be picking up firewire or my camera, do i have to setup something?
[01:14] <djeff> ok so nobody knows about cvs?
[01:14] <shatrat> drin, I like PAN
[01:14] <p47> Xzenome: yes, but I thinks that is problem of the net card or dns or someting like that
[01:14] <lufi1> djeff: what's the need?
[01:14] <drin> shatrat: thanks Ill check that one out.
[01:14] <linuxnewbie756> where would my camercorder be mounted by default?
[01:14] <Xzenome> p47, what country are you in? (Wierd question I know but is slightly relevant)
[01:15] <linuxnewbie756> it is connected using firewire
[01:15] <djeff> when i try to checkout, cvs tell me "cvs checkout: cannot open CVS/Entries for reading: No such file or directory"
[01:15] <lufi1> djeff: what command were you using?
[01:15] <p47> Xzenome: Mexico
[01:15] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: not too sure, i don't have a video camera.  are other firewire devices recognized?
[01:15] <djeff> i use TortoiseCVS on windowsXP
[01:15] <linuxnewbie756> i don't have any other ones tovella
[01:15] <lufi1> djeff: oh
[01:16] <djeff> but i have a ubuntu box
[01:16] <djeff> and the server is installed on it
[01:16] <lufi1> djeff: i'm not familiar with it. try looking at their docs?
[01:16] <lufi1> oh
[01:16] <jsbiffOhio> Can anyone tell me if there have been reports of problems with the Ubuntu installer's partition resizer, and Windows Vista?
[01:16] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: perhaps you could borrow a firewire external drive, just to test that the port is working.
[01:16] <djeff> when i create folder, it's not cvsd:cvsd by default
[01:17] <Xzenome> p47, ping google.com.mx and tell me the average time in m/s
[01:17] <djeff> maybe i can try directly on my ubuntu machine if you can help me
[01:17] <Xzenome> I mean ms
[01:17] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i would do that, i just don't know anyone with one. it worked fine in windows, i just don't think i am doing something right.
[01:17] <rivanov> has anyone worked on shareaza in linux before?
[01:17] <jsbiffOhio> Last night, I tried installing Ubuntu, and let the installer try to resize my main Windows Vista NTFS partition, and now the filesystem on that partition appears to be corrupt
[01:18] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: are you familiar with how to open a terminal window?
[01:18] <p47> Xzenome: 64 bytes from py-in-f104.google.com (64.233.167.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=77.9 ms
[01:18] <p47> 
[01:18] <linuxnewbie756> i am very familar with terminal
[01:18] <lufi1> rivanov: dunno, but if you're looking for a good p2p app i really like nicotine+
[01:18] <p47> Xzenome: 64 bytes from py-in-f104.google.com (64.233.167.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=245 time=80.2 ms
[01:18] <p47> Xzenome: PING www.l.google.com (64.233.167.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:18] <lufi1> rivanov: soulseek clone
[01:18] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i am
[01:19] <rivanov> lufil: thx for the info; but I'm looking for developing Shareaza not finding a P2P client
[01:19] <Mach3> I need help resolving a 2-disk dual boot issue.  I have grub on my linux drive and ntldr on the windows drive still.  The boot priority is set to boot from the linux drive.  I am able to boot windows fine with the mapping method in menu.lst  However, linux will only boot if I disconnect my windows drives.
[01:19] <p47> Xzenome: Ithink that is someting in ubuntu because I have some pc's here with windows and all those pc's have a good connection
[01:19] <lufi1> rivanov: ah, nvm then
[01:19] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: cool, then the first thing to do would be to monitor a log file - to see whether the cam is recognized when you plug it in.
[01:19] <linuxnewbie756> where is the log file?
[01:19] <Xzenome> p47, something is weird there, because I pings google mexico from the UK and I had a faster ping than you. I agree, lets blame ubuntu! :)
[01:20] <Gin> hi
[01:20] <lufi1> p47: open the system monitor and under the "resources" tab see if it's using any strange amount of bandwidth
[01:20] <Gin> I think Ubuntu is getting worse
[01:20] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: type this command "tail /var/log/syslog"
[01:20] <lufi1> Gin: why do you say that/
[01:20] <Gin> Dapper was the best release ever for me
[01:20] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, what is it going to do, and do i need the camera unplugged first?
[01:21] <Gin> lufi1: the new versions edgy and newer are slower!
[01:21] <lufi1> Gin: i actually thought edgy was a bit snappier
[01:21] <p47> lufi1: the pc now is virgin I formated this pc maybe 4 hours ago
[01:21] <Gin> lufi1: probably, but edgy is not that stable
[01:21] <billy> greetings an love to all humanity
[01:21] <lufi1> Gin: yeah, that's why dapper is supported for so long
[01:21] <lufi1> Gin: edgy was meant to be "edgy"
[01:21] <Gin> I'm going back to dapper
[01:22] <p47> Xzenome: so, what should I do ?
[01:22] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: what we're looking for is acknowledgement - plugging in or disconnecting, so it doesn't really matter.
[01:22] <linuxnewbie756> oh, ok.
[01:22] <Xzenome> p47, I have absolutely no idea.
[01:22] <lufi1> p47: i don't know. did you check bandwidth usage?
[01:22] <billy> Gin why back to Dapper?
[01:22] <Gin> billy, Dapper is a lot more stable than edgy
[01:22] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, looks like it is being detected, all sorts of firewire stuff on there
[01:23] <billy> Gin: oh.  have you had probs w/ Edgy?
[01:23] <cwraig> hi all is there any way to find the apt-get history? i basicly want a list of packages that have been installed
[01:23] <Gin> Billy, yea. movie player crashed a few times here
[01:23] <Gin> and the desktop is a bit slow..
[01:23] <p47> lufi1: what do you mean ? bandwidth? I'm mexican I don't understan tehe meaning of  bandwidth
[01:23] <Gin> if I compare it to windows
[01:23] <billy> Gin well it's probly not a bad idea seeing that Dapper will still be supported for a couple more years.
[01:24] <lufi1> p47: ah. i just mean to check to see if anything is using any of your speed
[01:24] <Xzenome> p47, bandwidth is that amount of crap you can send through something in a certain time
[01:24] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: that's a good sign.  i wish i could help you further, but at least now you know a connection is "seen" by the operating system.
[01:24] <linuxnewbie756> ok, but is there a kino channel or something? i think i may know what the problem is, and i think they may be able to fix it fast
[01:24] <lufi1> Gin: i hate totem. you'd probably be happier with vlc
[01:25] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, well, they do have a kino channel, but noone is in it.
[01:25] <Gin> lufi1: yea. vlc always worked for me :)
[01:25] <lufi1> Gin: and nautilus, the app that draws the desktop, has a memory leak or something
[01:25] <cchance> Any one here work at L3 Communications?
[01:25] <p47> lufi1, Xzenome. pufff so I will need to read maybe in ubuntu forums
[01:25] <Gin> lufi1: also in the new version?
[01:25] <p47> lufi1, Xzenome.  thank's a lot !
[01:25] <lufi1> Gin: in edgy, i believe
[01:26] <Gin> lufi1: what bout Dapper?
[01:26] <K3nto> could somebody help me with WoW on Wine?
[01:26] <K3nto> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2238090&posted=1#post2238090
[01:26] <lufi1> Gin: dunno, but edgy represents a more mature software base. bugs got fixed
[01:26] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: there are other programs that will do this too, but without a dv cam...  i just haven't been able to play with any of them.
[01:27] <Mach3> I need help resolving a 2-disk dual boot issue.  I have grub on my linux drive and ntldr on the windows drive still.  The boot priority is set to boot from the linux drive.  I am able to boot windows fine with the mapping method in menu.lst  However, linux will only boot if I disconnect my windows drives.
[01:27] <Janbanan> Does latest version of ubuntu work out of the box with ati x700 yet?
[01:27] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i think i am missing a dependancy for this sort of stuff, like a codec type thing, but more like a driver i guess. someway to test if all dependencies are satisfied/
[01:28] <jo_> hello, anybody has an intel 915 working with tv-out? trying all days, but no success...
[01:28] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: when you installed kino, normally all the dependencies would have been installed.
[01:28] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, look here. http://www.kinodv.org/article/static/3
[01:28] <Latitude^> i downloaded the google earth bin, how do i install it?
[01:29] <bob0908> do I do an "apt-get upgrade php5" to upgrade php?
[01:29] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i was thinking i may be missing some of the additional software, since i have to compile some of it maybe.
[01:29] <lufi1> Latitude^: does it come with an install script?
[01:29] <bob0908> and if so, is there much of a chance of it messing up my current php install (I'm at 5.1.2 and the latest is 5.2.1)
[01:29] <jrib> Latitude^: you can use snyaptic to install googleearth if you enable the medibuntu repos
[01:29] <sotec> trying this once more
[01:29] <Flannel> bob0908: apt-get install php5
[01:30] <spinster> somebody can help me to i install flashplayer to i watch movies/m,p3s/mpeg/wmx
[01:30] <spinster> ?
[01:30] <spinster> a
[01:30] <jrib> !flash | spinster
[01:30] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:30] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:30] <spinster> Jrabbit: yes i know the site but must smoething to gedit
[01:30] <bob0908> Flannel: even though I'm just at an older version of php5?
[01:30] <Jrabbit> What?
[01:30] <Flannel> bob0908: oh.  Then it's just "apt-get upgrade"
[01:30] <spinster> jrib: i must something to edit
[01:30] <spinster> jrib: do you know what ?
[01:30] <spinster> a
[01:31] <jrib> spinster: have you read the pages ubotu told you about?
[01:31] <spinster> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 63 not upgraded.
[01:31] <spinster> jrib: and i still can't watch
[01:31] <spinster> :(
[01:31] <spinster> can y ou tell me what to edit ?
[01:31] <spinster> a
[01:31] <Latitude^> jrib: i never tried that route. i just downloaded the bin file
[01:31] <jrib> spinster: you need to enable multiverse, this information is on those pages
[01:31] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: no i don't think you should have to compile any of the additional software,  i think it's all in the ubuntu repositories eaily downloadable.
[01:32] <jrib> Latitude^: k, that's fine too, it just takes some extra work
[01:32] <lufi1> Latitude^: try double-clicking the file?
[01:32] <spinster> jrib: i don't know so good english language so can help me where to i go what to type please?
[01:32] <spinster> a
[01:32] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: eaily = easily
[01:32] <jrib> Latitude^: sh name_of_file_you_downloaded     search google help for installing google earth on linux
[01:32] <jsbiffOhio> can anyone tell me if the partition resizer built into the Ubuntu installer is safe to use on Vista NTFS partitions?
[01:32] <jrib> spinster: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[01:33] <leeyee> exit
[01:33] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, maybe. i'm not sure, maybe it's just my camera, been forever since i've used it
[01:33] <Latitude^> sh seems to be working...
[01:35] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: just did some tests to and see that all those programs are installed on my machine (edgy)
[01:35] <spinster> Click here to download plugin
[01:35] <spinster> jrib: don't work that
[01:35] <marshall> hey guys
[01:35] <Latitude^> jrib: sh did the trick. thanks
[01:35] <spinster> #
[01:35] <spinster> Ensure the relevant repositories are enabled. Click System  Administration  Synaptic Package Manager  Settings  Repositories and then click Add. Check the Community maintained (Universe) and Non-free (Multiverse) boxes. When you close the window, click Reload.
[01:35] <spinster> Jrabbit: i do that
[01:36] <jrib> Latitude^: np
[01:36] <lufi1> spinster: download tar.gz, run tar xvf flash (hit tab)... cd flash (hit tab) ... sudo cp * /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[01:36] <Jrabbit> <_
[01:36] <marshall> for some reason i have this little lock on some of my icons for music files in nautilus, anybody know what that might mean?
[01:36] <cchance> ON the page: http://www.titan.com/careers/list.html?req=7727&callid=2  What does the "Applicants selected will be subject to a security investigation andmust meet eligibility requirements for access to classified information." Mean?
[01:36] <spinster> ok
[01:36] <lisapc> im new to using Azuerus.  Why do some torrent files download and others dont?
[01:36] <jrib> marshall: check the permissions
[01:36] <bronze> cchance: what country?
[01:36] <jrib> marshall: lock means you can't write iirc
[01:36] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, and the results?
[01:36] <cchance> bronze, its for eilson AFB
[01:37] <cchance> bronze, US
[01:37] <lufi1> lisapc: it depends on a lot of things, like how many seeders there are, etc.
[01:37] <bronze> cchance: If USA it means the FBI will investigate your entire life and decide if you are safe to be givenm access to classified material
[01:37] <lisapc> lufi1 ok, thanks. so it happens to you too?  some things I try to download, it simply doesnt work
[01:38] <cchance> broze, ok then im clean. I dont got any tickets, or felonys so yeah
[01:38] <bronze> cchance: As long as you use an anonymizer service like tor to access your on-line porn you should be OK..........
[01:38] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: they're already installed - so you definately shouldn't have to compile any of them.
[01:38] <cchance> bronze,  porn?
[01:38] <lufi1> lisapc: well it isn't necessarily the client's fault, it depends on how many seeders there are, if the tracker is reachable, on and on
[01:38] <bronze> cchance: Doent even know hat it is, right?  :)
[01:38] <linuxnewbie756> i am using dapper drake, but it should still work fine shouldn't it
[01:39] <lisapc> lufi1 so it happens to you too?
[01:39] <lufi1> lisapc: occasionally, yeah
[01:39] <cchance> bronze, i do its been too long though
[01:39] <LordUltimaDavid> is there a command to check if AIGLX is working?
[01:39] <bronze> heh
[01:39] <spinster> ar zxvf flash
[01:39] <spinster> tar: flash: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[01:39] <spinster> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[01:39] <spinster> tar: Child returned status 2
[01:39] <spinster> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[01:39] <lisapc> lufi1 do you try to download some torrent and they simply wont download?
[01:39] <spinster> lufi1: look
[01:39] <lufi1> spinster: hit tab
[01:39] <lisapc> lufi1 what client u recommend?
[01:39] <spinster> lufi1: what to type in terminal to type: hit tab
[01:39] <spinster> ?
[01:39] <lufi1> lisapc: i really like the newer versions of ktorrent. they added a lot of good features like dht
[01:40] <lufi1> spinster: no don';t type that. press the tab key
[01:40] <bronze> cchance: wait.. No tickets??? thats a tip off right there. someone afraid to get into any trouble must be an enemy agent......
[01:40] <spinster> and ?
[01:40] <lufi1> and it should autocomplete it
[01:40] <lisapc> lufi1 dht?
[01:40] <lufi1> lisapc: distributed hash table
[01:40] <spinster> lufi1: and ?
[01:40] <lisapc> lufi1 distributed hash table?
[01:40] <spinster> lufi1: don't work it.
[01:40] <TUXtoker> hit tab twice and it will list all
[01:40] <Sivako> I there a dark basic pro equivilant for linux?
[01:40] <spinster> CANT
[01:40] <lufi1> spinster: tar xvf flash (press tab here)
[01:40] <spinster> ooo
[01:40] <cchance> bronze, as in im only 15.... Looking into the future here.... Only got a permit LOL :-P
[01:41] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: yes, when you install programs (such as kino) from the ubuntu repositories, the "apt" system should take care of any dependencies.  this is for any version of ubuntu, and part of the reason i stopped using red-hat a few years ago.
[01:41] <Sivako> I there a dark basic pro equivilant for linux?
[01:41] <TUXtoker> whats dark basic?
[01:41] <spinster> and after that ?
[01:41] <bronze> OMG, I'm corrupting a minor.
[01:41] <lufi1> lisapc: look it up on wikipedia, i don't know the exact details
[01:41] <Sivako> a programming language
[01:41] <spinster> lufi1: after that ?
[01:41] <lufi1> spinster: cd flash (hit tab)
[01:41] <spinster> and ?
[01:41] <cchance> bronze, its all goog
[01:41] <cchance> goof*
[01:41] <cchance> good**
[01:41] <Sivako> good*
[01:41] <lufi1> spinster: sudo cp * /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[01:41] <Sivako> lol
[01:42] <bronze> heh
[01:42] <spinster>  sudo cp * /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[01:42] <spinster> cp: omitting directory `ACDC'
[01:42] <spinster> cp: omitting directory `Desktop'
[01:42] <spinster> cp: omitting directory `xchat-2.8.0'
[01:42] <spinster> this is it ?
[01:42] <kitche> Sivako: don't think so sicne it deals with directx
[01:42] <Sivako> I there a dark basic pro equivilant for linux?
[01:42] <lufi1> spinster: oh, god
[01:42] <Sivako> ok
[01:42] <Sivako> thanks
[01:42] <sotec> well, thatsucks.
[01:42] <kitche> Sivako: but might want to look at gambas perhaps
[01:42] <sotec> no beryl for me
[01:42] <bronze> mono is the VB for Linux
[01:42] <sotec> :(
[01:42] <bronze> oops- gambas. sorry
[01:42] <TUXtoker> w00t, it's friday! no work tomorrow! and the green is good.
[01:42] <lufi1> spinster: you just moved your home directory to firefox's plugin directory
[01:42] <Innatech> TUXtoker: no camping.
[01:43] <lufi1> oh god, someone bash.org this
[01:43] <sotec> Are there any other 'beryl'-type effects for linux?
[01:43] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, well, im not sure what to do, wish i had a drive or something. i'm not quite sure where to go from here.
[01:43] <spinster> lufi1: please tell me what to do to i fix that
[01:43] <cchance> bronze, so what would you expect the minimum age requirement of http://www.titan.com/careers/list.html?req=7727&callid=2 to be?
[01:43] <lufi1> spinster: did you follow every command?
[01:43] <tide33> compiz achieves the cube and a few other features sotec
[01:43] <linuxnewbie756> anyone here ever used kino to take video off a minidvd cam through firewire?
[01:43] <sotec> nice
[01:43] <spinster> lufi1: yep
[01:44] <sotec> compiz.
[01:44] <lufi1> spinster: well apparently not. it was supposed to change directories
[01:44] <tide33> beryl was a split from compiz
[01:44] <lufi1> hold on, let me see if i have the filenames right
[01:44] <tide33> originally
[01:44] <Innatech> cchance: I don't see the USAF hiring a minor as a sysadmin. Or probably anyone without a degree.
[01:44] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: after the results of the test (tail /var/log/syslog), i don't think you need a drive to test.
[01:44] <MTecknology> how do I send a process running in the terminal to the background?
[01:45] <cchance> lnnatech, "minimum age requirement:
[01:45] <khaije> crtl-z  then typebg
[01:45] <khaije> ctrl-z pauses it, 'bg' puts in in the background
[01:46] <khaije> MTecknology: did you see that ^^
[01:46] <lufi1> where did he go?
[01:46] <lufi1> thanks adobe for your oh-so intuitive filenames...
[01:46] <MTecknology> khaije, and then ctrl+c let's me get out?
[01:46] <gsf> hi can someone please  help me with Cisco vpnclient 4.8.00-k9? I've compiled and installed the module just fine, but when I run vpnclient I get "/usr/local/bin/vpnclient: No such file or directory"
[01:47] <khaije> MTecknology: that will cancel/kill the process
[01:47] <tritium> gsf: have you tried vpnc instead of using the Cisco client?  It works just as well.
[01:48] <gsf> trit: Can it use the same profile files? It's to log into work and they have an encrypted password in the pcfs.
[01:48] <tritium> gsf: it can convert a cisco .pcf file into a config it can use.
[01:48] <michael__> khaije, i didn't get the last message b/c gnome froze, ne way. restarting x took care of it - thanks though
[01:48] <Lazergunz> Can anyone suggest an application to play videos :) ?
[01:49] <gsf> trit: I'll give it a show
[01:49] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: i don't have a dv cam (or a firewire port), but i'm looking at kino now.  did you choose a device under Edit > Preferences?
[01:49] <gsf> shot even
[01:49] <pizZadoxXx> hya
[01:49] <pizZadoxXx> :)
[01:49] <bronze> cchance: min would be 18 for any security clearance (Best guess)  beyond that, who knows
[01:49] <pizZadoxXx> i would have a really stupid question
[01:49] <linuxnewbie756> you mean av/c?
[01:49] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: yes, exactly.
[01:49] <jrib> Lazergunz: totem, mplayer, vlc, xine
[01:49] <tritium> gsf: :)
[01:49] <pizZadoxXx> how can i make a bot work on ubuntu
[01:49] <pizZadoxXx> i cant really install in this os
[01:50] <pizZadoxXx> this is my first time with linuz
[01:50] <pizZadoxXx> :)
[01:50] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, nothing shows up there for me, maybe a camera incompatibility?
[01:50] <tritium> !enter > pizZadoxXx
[01:50] <Lazergunz> jrib:  I'll check them out thankyou.
[01:50] <pizZadoxXx> !enter
[01:50] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:50] <cchance> bronze, freak usaf i fond better
[01:50] <jrib> Lazergunz: totem is the default one, "Movie Player"
[01:50] <pizZadoxXx> hya all
[01:50] <pizZadoxXx> would someone pls help me with a bot installation
[01:50] <Lazergunz> jrib: ah ok, i'll give xine a look a few people have suggested it =)
[01:50] <pizZadoxXx> i downloaded one
[01:51] <pizZadoxXx> and i dont know how to make it work on linux
[01:51] <pizZadoxXx> thats my first time on this os
[01:51] <tritium> hi lineman60
[01:51] <lineman60> hi whats up
[01:51] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: perhaps.  i could help more if i had one.
[01:51] <tritium> lineman60: not much.  Nice to see another NM person...
[01:52] <craigbass1976> is there a one player (no net games) monopoly type game for ubuntu?
[01:52] <pizZadoxXx> someone pls... help :\
[01:52] <Nwallins|home> Hi, anyone know where the command (in the Ubuntu default install) is that allows less to read .gz?   lesspipe is related, but I have been searching for that string and not finding it
[01:52] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i just found an error message, look at this. "warining:dv1394 kernel module not loaded or faulure to read/write/dev/dv1394/0
[01:52] <jrib> Lazergunz: there are two frontends for xine that are pretty good,  gxine and xine-ui.  Personally, I really like mplayer
[01:52] <ryanakca> why can't I run 'mysqladmin -u root password <password>' on my mysql server? I get "error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'".
[01:52] <craigbass1976> pizZadoxXx, what? I just got in
[01:52] <lineman60> ya, took a sec for me to figuer out who you were
[01:52] <tcgamer> jrib, i'm ready
[01:52] <Dachra> evenin' all, anyone have experience installing Vega Strike on edgy?  I just tried the script, launched game and crashed hard...
[01:52] <gsf> tritium: I think I should use the client my work provided for me, they're very strict about stuff like this
[01:52] <tcgamer> jrib, i need to get this sucker updated!
[01:52] <Flannel> ryanakca: you need to create a root password, and setup your perms
[01:52] <Agrajag> Nwallins|home: zless?
[01:52] <tritium> gsf: up to you, of course
[01:52] <Flannel> !lamp  | ryanakca has a section on it
[01:52] <ubotu> ryanakca has a section on it: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:52] <jrib> tcgamer: k
[01:53] <tcgamer> jrib, where do i start?
[01:53] <Flannel> pizZadoxXx: What sort of bot?  There are plenty of them.
[01:53] <jrib> !upgrade | tcgamer
[01:53] <ubotu> tcgamer: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:53] <gsf> trit: any idea where to find other troubleshooting for this? I've looked in ubuntu forums and on google and found nothing
[01:53] <Nwallins|home> Agrajag: ah, perhaps that's it.  I could have sworn I was digging around in .bash_profile or /etc/profile or similar and saw something that looked like lesspipe
[01:53] <Lazergunz> jrib: yeah, i'm installing gxine atm, :P I didnt have to add any extra repos for it.  which is nice
[01:53] <tritium> gsf: nope
[01:53] <pizZadoxXx> seeborg-0.51.tar.gz talkin abput this particular file here
[01:54] <gsf> trit: what's courtesy on repeating help requests around here?
[01:54] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i think i need something more in my kernal don't i?
[01:54] <Lazergunz> Just a quick question, How do you close an already existing process? If it is not visible.
[01:55] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: hang on - doing some checking.
[01:56] <pizZadoxXx> just tell me whats the syntax to install it
[01:56] <pizZadoxXx> im a total dummy
[01:56] <pizZadoxXx> :D
[01:56] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: lets see which 1394 modules are loaded.  type the command, "lsmod |grep 1394"
[01:57] <quappa> hello. how do I report a bug in Ubuntu build of Firefox?
[01:57] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, i think i fixed it! i think the default firefire device was wrong, i changed it to mine, i think it's workingk, give me a sec.
[01:57] <Flannel> quappa: launchpad.net
[01:57] <linuxnewbie756> tovella, nice, its working!
[01:57] <tovella> linuxnewbie756: great.
[01:57] <pizZadoxXx> Flannel,  do u have any clue about my problem?
[01:57] <quappa> Flannel, it says Firefox does not use Malone.
[01:58] <AndrewB> pizZadoxXx: what is your problem?
[01:58] <pizZadoxXx> i want to install a bot
[01:58] <Flannel> pizZadoxXx: What sort of bot?  There are plenty of them.
[01:58] <pizZadoxXx> and i dont know the command for it
[01:58] <pizZadoxXx> yeah
[01:58] <AndrewB> pizZadoxXx: take a look at supybot or eggbot
[01:58] <pizZadoxXx> i allready copied it here
[01:58] <pizZadoxXx> just a sec
[01:58] <tovella> my dogs are looking at me like they need to go out.  don't need any more pee or poop on my floor. gotta go - later.
[01:58] <Flannel> quappa: go to the ubuntu section, then find the firefox package
[01:58] <AndrewB> oh..
[01:58] <tcgamer> can i leave IRC open while I update to 6.10?
[01:58] <AndrewB> tcgamer: should be able to..
[01:58] <tcgamer> wait, will i lose all my files?
[01:58] <tritium> tcgamer: of course you can do that
[01:59] <tcgamer> wait will i lose my beloved files?
[01:59] <tcgamer> no...
[01:59] <tcgamer> i shouldn't right
[01:59] <tcgamer> ?
[01:59] <gsf> hi can someone please  help me with Cisco vpnclient 4.8.00-k9? I've compiled and installed the module just fine, but when I run vpnclient I get "/usr/local/bin/vpnclient: No such file or directory"
[01:59] <tritium> tcgamer: you won't lose your files
[01:59] <tcgamer> wow, i should has asked before i clicked install!
[01:59] <quappa> Flannel, thanks! I now see an option to report bug. I'll never understand launchpad :)
[01:59] <Dachra> so no one with experience installing Vega Strike?
[01:59] <tcgamer> oh thx
[01:59] <AndrewB> tcgamer: it is advisable to make a backup of any *important* data.
[01:59] <tcgamer> i'm aware
[02:00] <tcgamer> thank you
[02:00] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:00] <tcgamer> i'll do that nex time!
[02:00] <tcgamer> but, if everything goes kaboom...
[02:00] <tcgamer> nothing i can't replace with a little time..
[02:00] <tcgamer> so do you guys think mumble will work instead of TS?
[02:00] <seravitae> hi, i've got a nice working ubuntu setup on my laptop but i need to install windows, any tips before windows overtakes the mbr and stuff
[02:01] <Flannel> !grub | seravitae, first link
[02:01] <ubotu> seravitae, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:01] <AndrewB> seravitae: that you have a live cd to install grub once done.
[02:01] <seravitae> i dont use live cds
[02:01] <Dachra> can't use mvware player/server for winblows?
[02:01] <Eleaf> lol
[02:01] <tcgamer> jrib, you there?
[02:02] <thomazzz> hello
[02:02] <thomazzz> I have a question
[02:02] <tcgamer> welcome to the club!
[02:02] <AndrewB> tcgamer: ask away!
[02:02] <AndrewB> err
[02:02] <thomazzz> i recently recieved 13 ubuntu/kbuntu cds in the mail from ship it
[02:02] <AndrewB> !welcome | thomazzz
[02:02] <ubotu> thomazzz: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[02:02] <thomazzz> i am normally a mepis user
[02:02] <jrib> tcgamer: yes, what's up?
[02:02] <linuxnewbie756> any clue how to take video from kino and put it into a totally sexy dvd menu type thing, so i can make i totally nice dvd?
[02:02] <thomazzz> well
[02:02] <thomazzz> with mepis
[02:02] <thomazzz> when i boot off the liv cd
[02:03] <tcgamer> jrib, i'm is the new 6.10 going to be less secure?
[02:03] <thomazzz> i can use the 1280x1024 resolution fine
[02:03] <thomazzz> but on ubuntu and kbuntu
[02:03] <thomazzz> i get 4 desktops
[02:03] <thomazzz> and green lines
[02:03] <jrib> tcgamer: not on purpose... (no)
[02:03] <tcgamer> jrib, what do you mean?
[02:03] <tcgamer> jrib, i don't do anything crazy
[02:03] <tcgamer> jrib, its just my desktop
[02:03] <thomazzz> so it obviously doent display properly on my lcd
[02:03] <tcgamer> jrib, :)
[02:03] <thomazzz> is there a way to change?
[02:03] <AndrewB> thomazzz: sounds like mephis is identifying the video card better.. or has a better driver. What chipset is the VGA card?
[02:04] <thomazzz> nvidia
[02:04] <thomazzz> gefore 6600 le
[02:04] <jrib> tcgamer: it will serve you well :)
[02:04] <K3nto> !p2p
[02:04] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:04] <K3nto> hold up, limewire is for linux!?!
[02:04] <tcgamer> jrib, I have tried soo many other desktops and was the happiest with ubuntu christian edition
[02:04] <Lazergunz> :) BitTorrent all the way.
[02:05] <AndrewB> thomazzz: hmm.. have you got the refresh rate right?
[02:05] <tcgamer> jrib, my church uses it we like it so much
[02:05] <thomazzz> no clue
[02:05] <lufis-food> K3nto: limewire is java, right? so yeah
[02:05] <thomazzz> how do i change
[02:05] <jrib> tcgamer: that's good to hear
[02:05] <rolnyzx> tcgamer, hehehe
[02:05] <tcgamer> hehe what?
[02:05] <p47> how can I use IRC in console with edgy ? before I can but no I havet o use x-chat :(
[02:06] <AndrewB> thomazzz: should be somewhere when you boot, check through the function keys..
[02:06] <rolnyzx> i didn't know there was a christian edition
[02:06] <thomazzz> ok
[02:06] <rolnyzx> just checked out
[02:06] <tcgamer> i didn't either..
[02:06] <thomazzz> is ubuntu good on a mac?
[02:06] <tcgamer> there are actually 2 christian os's
[02:06] <AndrewB> p47: Applications >> Accessories >> Terminal
[02:06] <thomazzz> power pc mac
[02:06] <tcgamer> ichthux and ubuntu christian edition
[02:06] <tritium> p47: install irssi
[02:06] <tcgamer> ichthux is kubuntu
[02:06] <Lazergunz> Does anyone use QuadKonsole?
[02:07] <tcgamer> so after this stuff installs, i should be good to go?
[02:07] <AndrewB> p47: ignore me, I mis understood.  try   irssi bitchx or weechat-curses :)
[02:07] <linxeh> AndrewB: or telnet ;-)
[02:07] <thomazzz> anyone know how to boot ubuntu off a powerpc?
[02:07] <p47> tritium:  irssi ? ok, I can imagine that I should to do with apt ! not I ?
[02:07] <tcgamer> jrib, i like mac the way it is...
[02:08] <linxeh> thomazzz: on apple machines, stick the cd in, turn on with c held down
[02:08] <tritium> p47: right
[02:08] <AndrewB> thomazzz: hold c during reboot.
[02:08] <linxeh> thomazzz: ubuntu is much faster than osx on my ppc mac mini
[02:08] <tcgamer> its windoze that needs the help
[02:08] <AndrewB> oh... linxeh is faster
[02:08] <tcgamer> i'm just saying osx is not a bad os
[02:08] <tcgamer> compared to others :)
[02:08] <linxeh> tcgamer: correct
[02:08] <gasp> hello there
[02:08] <eck> thomazzz: just to let you know, powerpc will no longer be officially supported starting with feisty
[02:08] <lufis-food> hi gasp
[02:08] <AndrewB> !welcome | gasp
[02:08] <ubotu> gasp: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[02:08] <linxeh> tcgamer: but if you do a lot of stuff with X apps, Linux might be better
[02:09] <gasp> i am a firrst ubuntu installer
[02:09] <tcgamer> ture
[02:09] <tcgamer> true*
[02:09] <gasp> on an AMD
[02:09] <AndrewB> gasp: cool welcome to ubuntu world then ;)
[02:09] <gasp> ca somepme pilot me ?
[02:09] <tcgamer> welcome to STABILITY!
[02:09] <thomazzz> i want to install ubuntu at my schools computers and ruin them!
[02:09] <linxeh> thomazzz: install dapper :)
[02:09] <thomazzz> jk
[02:09] <linxeh> thomazzz: oh dear....
[02:09] <tcgamer> you can't ruin a computer with ubuntu
[02:09] <eck> thomazzz: excellent :-)
[02:09] <gasp> lol, foir the moment it doesn't want to install
[02:10] <linxeh> tcgamer: well, you can - it might have kubuntu on it
[02:10] <gasp> installation get stucked on a black screen, should i wait ?
[02:10] <AndrewB> gasp: what is wrong.. why does it 'not install'
[02:10] <linxeh> gasp: how long did it hang?
[02:10] <tcgamer> i'm not a kde guy
[02:10] <AndrewB> gasp: you have booted from cd right?
[02:10] <gasp> more than  min
[02:10] <tcgamer> gnome is sooo stable and fast...
[02:10] <gasp> yup
[02:10] <Nwallins|home> tarzeau: mbmon says 'no hardware monitor found'
[02:10] <eck> gnome is just better than kde :-)
[02:10] <AndrewB> gasp: try safe graphics mode.
[02:10] <eck> sorry, i had to say it
[02:10] <linxeh> tcgamer: nor am I - but I'm using it now because KDE actually lets me do stuff. Gnome is just too restrictive in many arenas
[02:10] <gasp> already tryed
[02:11] <tcgamer> it all depends on what you want to do with it...
[02:11] <gasp> perhaps someone could do a remote install for me ?
[02:11] <tcgamer> what do you mean gasp?
[02:11] <linxeh> tcgamer: I'm used to ovwm and then CDE, so I know how good Gnome is :)
[02:11] <tcgamer> how could you do that without an OS
[02:11] <Flannel> gasp: You using Desktop or Alternate CD?
[02:11] <gasp> well, via ssh ?
[02:11] <eck> gross, cde
[02:11] <linxeh> err olwm even
[02:12] <gasp> Desktop or alternate CD ? dunno
[02:12] <gasp> RD CD : Version  TLS
[02:12] <tcgamer> hi
[02:12] <AndrewB> gasp: what file did you download.. what .iso file?
[02:12] <tcgamer> whoops..
[02:12] <gasp> didn't download, got the CD shipped via post mail
[02:12] <thomazzz> im off to try and boot ubunu
[02:12] <AndrewB> ah
[02:12] <lufi1> gasp: does it start up with gui or text?
[02:13] <tcgamer> jrib, so when i'm done with updating my distribution i should be good 2 go with that package?
[02:13] <atiproblems> Getting blank white screen when trying to run Beryl on ati card, any suggestions?
[02:13] <gasp> splash screen for installation then black screen no action
[02:13] <linuxnewbie756> what is a good program to create dvd menu's with and the like? like a free nero, what about this? i bought a lightscrive drive, it came with nero, could i download the linux version of nero and use that seriall?
[02:14] <linxeh> atiproblems: give up - beryl is so unstable you wont be using it in a week anyway
[02:14] <gasp> i tried advanced options then and no more success (i disabled splash screen for install
[02:14] <tcgamer> try kino?
[02:14] <AndrewB> gasp: if you have a fast enough connection I would advise trying to use the alternative install cd..
[02:14] <Lazergunz> I tried beryl and realised :P it'd cause more stress than I could be bothered.
[02:14] <gasp> oki, i have fast connexion
[02:14] <Sivako> Is there a way to find out whats in tha add/remove section without going on ubuntu?
[02:14] <gasp> how does alt install cd work ? AndrewB
[02:14] <atiproblems> linxeh: any comparable programs to beryl then?
[02:14] <AndrewB> gasp: download the iso, burn it to cd, boot.
[02:15] <Sivako> Is there a way to find out whats in tha add/remove section without going on ubuntu?
[02:15] <gasp> AndrewB, got a link ?
[02:15] <linxeh> atiproblems: none that are that stable - beryl is probably ok if you are used to running a windows overclocked athon with an AMD processor ;-) you could try compiz I guess
[02:15] <AndrewB> gasp: www.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <nalioth> Sivako: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <linxeh> atiproblems: I'm sure beryl will become really good over time
[02:15] <seravitae> beryl runs fine here
[02:15] <gasp> lol, thnx AndrewB
[02:16] <atiproblems> linxeh: many thanks
[02:16] <linxeh> seravitae: It randomly crashes after being up for a couple of days here
[02:16] <linxeh> seravitae: or if I run some big complex apps
[02:16] <Sivako> Is there a way to find out whats in tha add/remove section without going on ubuntu?
[02:16] <nalioth> Sivako: try packages.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <linxeh> Sivako: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <Sivako> ty
[02:17] <lufi1> Sivako: asking once is sufficient
[02:17] <Sivako> took ages tho
[02:17] <nalioth> Sivako: and paying attention always works best
[02:17] <nalioth> Sivako: i answered you twice
[02:17] <AndrewB> Sivako: nalioth linked you a while ago.
[02:17] <AndrewB> :)
[02:18] <Sivako> I didnt see
[02:18] <linxeh> Sivako: you were answered within seconds, and the same after each question.
[02:18] <seravitae> linxeh: just because you get problems doesnt mean everyone else does
[02:18] <seravitae> also, nvidia is a lot to blame
[02:18] <linxeh> seravitae: I'm not the only one; check the official forums, and loads of other enthusiast sites
[02:19] <seravitae> that's like saying a product sucks because it has a support desk that is used a lot
[02:19] <linxeh> no, its like saying a product crashes a lot so people whine about it
[02:20] <linxeh> nor me :)
[02:20] <pipz0r> anyone know if Drive Image 5 will work on kubuntu for imaging ??
[02:20] <AndrewB> seravitae: drop it :)
[02:20] <pipz0r> ubuntu
[02:20] <linxeh> seravitae: how on earth can you comment on my productivity ?
[02:20] <AndrewB> seravitae: /dev/flame >> /dev/yachill
[02:20] <gasp> for an amd sempron based machine, which version should i take (6.06.1 LTS does not work) what is 6.10-alternate-i386 ?
[02:20] <seravitae> linxeh: i would but unfortunately i dropped it.
[02:20] <nalioth> !offtopic
[02:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:20] <seravitae> :)
[02:20] <AndrewB> gasp: try that yes.
[02:20] <Dachra> i think i've found the answer myself re: Vega Strike, there is a package for it :P
[02:21] <Dachra> just so's ya knows
[02:21] <ftp3> is the ubuntu gnome any different than the fedora or debian?
[02:21] <gasp> oki, thnx AndrewB
[02:21] <eck> ftp3: it's basically the same
[02:21] <AndrewB> ftp3: it is customized yes, but in effect it can be the same. maybe a different version too..
[02:21] <lisapc> hello
[02:21] <lisapc> VLC wont play any movie files.  I hear them, but only a flickering blank screen appears. any ideas?  I installed k-lite codec pack already
[02:21] <linuxnewbie756> ftp3, it probably is just an older version, maybe. depending on what version you use, but, besides that, it probably works the same.
[02:21] <eck> ftp3: all of the distributions patch things a little, but not much
[02:22] <nalioth> lisapc: please join ##windows
[02:22] <lufi1> !restricted formats
[02:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <pete> Hi, does anybody know how to program in C
[02:22] <pete> ?
[02:22] <lisapc> nalioth ok, see yo there
[02:22] <eck> pete: vi and gcc!
[02:22] <lufi1> lisapc: try the restrictedformats wiki page
[02:22] <AndrewB> pete: yes ##c   may be better though..
[02:22] <eck> and the man pages
[02:22] <nalioth> lufi1: k-lite codec pack is a "windows" package
[02:22] <eck> there, i taught you everything you need to know :-)
[02:22] <lufi1> nalioth: okay, well, that won't do :P
[02:22] <pete> lol eck, I just wrote a beginner program for the user to guess at a number.... it's only 10 lines long, and the program always coredumps
[02:23] <colbert> Is there a program for Ubuntu so I can view my system temperature ???
[02:23] <foutrelis> pete: You are more likely to get help on #c :)
[02:23] <AndrewB> colbert: lmstats
[02:23] <AndrewB> err
[02:23] <ftp3> thanks
[02:23] <AndrewB> colbert: lm_sensors
[02:23] <eck> pete: actually, the channel is ##c, it is pretty helpful
[02:23] <AndrewB> !sensors | colbert
[02:23] <eck> i would try there
[02:23] <ubotu> colbert: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:23] <pete> ok, thanks a lot eck
[02:24] <AndrewB> pete: I told you that 5mins ago..
[02:24] <colbert> AndrewB: Thanks!!
[02:24] <sotec_> this is a pain.
[02:24] <sotec_> lol
[02:24] <sotec_> gotta go
[02:24] <linuxnewbie756> how can i make a dvd menu in daper?
[02:24] <AndrewB> linuxnewbie756: try gnomebaker
[02:25] <lufi1> lisapc: are you on windows?
[02:25] <mindstate> linuxnewbie756, dvd author
[02:25] <linuxnewbie756> AndrewB, heard of qdvdauthor?
[02:26] <linuxnewbie756> mindstate, is that qdvdauthor?
[02:26] <AndrewB> linuxnewbie756: I have not no. I have never made a DVD... not got the hardware.
[02:26] <linuxnewbie756> AndrewB, alright, i think mindstate knows how to do it
[02:26] <mindstate> linuxnewbie756, probably the same except q is built with qt
[02:26] <linuxnewbie756> mindstate, so is that what i should be using? what is qt?
[02:27] <AndrewB> !qt | linuxnewbie756
[02:27] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[02:27] <lufi1> linuxnewbie756: qt is a toolkit used in kde, as opposed to gtk+
[02:27] <K3nto> !firewall
[02:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:27] <mindstate> linuxnewbie756, either one u use should be ok
[02:27] <slavik> K3nto: did you fix your problem or whatever you had trouble with before?
[02:27] <linuxnewbie756> AndrewB, so the regular one is designed for gnome, the one im downloading for kde?
[02:28] <AndrewB> linuxnewbie756: no.. one has a written front end with qt and one it gtk.
[02:28] <linuxnewbie756> AndrewB, i don't understand, but as long as it works... ;)
[02:28] <slavik> linuxnewbie756: not that it is designed for, but it uses the same libraries you already have so you don't have to install extra stuff :)
[02:28] <AndrewB> ok.
[02:29] <gasp> i gonnq b bqck
[02:29] <gasp> c u
[02:29] <AndrewB> gl
[02:29] <BigMac> Hey, I just ndiswrapper'd my wifi card and it seemed to be working, but I can't seem to configure it to connect to my windows network? Can someone tell me what to do?
[02:29] <professor> hey guys, I have a question about aegis virus scanner
[02:30] <AndrewB> BigMac: try using an application like wlassistant
[02:30] <professor> I cannot get it to update, it updats for like a second then says done, is there something I have to do first
[02:30] <kenv> can ubuntu play WMV files?
[02:30] <lufi1> kenv: yes
[02:30] <AndrewB> !restricted formats | kenv
[02:30] <ubotu> kenv: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <BigMac> AndrewB: I will try it, I downloaded wifi radar and it says I am connected, but when I unplug my ethernet cable I can't connect to any websites
[02:31] <professor> anyone know AEGIS VIRUS SCANNER
[02:31] <kenv> Thanks I'll give it a go.
[02:31] <AndrewB> BigMac: does iwconfig show an ip next to the interfact, or ifconfig
[02:32] <AndrewB> pete: do not shout. try in #aegis
[02:32] <BigMac> AndrewB: Sorry, I am unfamiliar with those terms
[02:32] <professor> does anyone know about htat
[02:32] <blanky> !openbox
[02:32] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[02:32] <AndrewB> BigMac: do   sudo ifconfig   from a terminal and paste it on pastebin.ca
[02:32] <BigMac> AndrewB: wlassistant is for kde
[02:33] <AndrewB> BigMac: it is.. but I think it is possibly the best even when working on gnome.
[02:33] <AndrewB> IMO
[02:34] <K3nto> is piracy more detectable on linux systems? for example, backing up DVDs
[02:35] <lufi1> K3nto: i don't see why it would be. what do you mean detectable?
[02:35] <K3nto> gonna make me say it arent you
[02:35] <AndrewB> K3nto: email riaa and ask.
[02:35] <K3nto> is it easier to get caught on linux?
[02:35] <lufi1> K3nto: do you think people are spying on your pc's actions?
[02:35] <AndrewB> K3nto: normally it is over network usage  ISP -> you  that they detect.
[02:35] <K3nto> nope
[02:35] <linxeh> K3nto: if you download movies it's gonna be just the same. copying them, probably not unless you start distributing them
[02:35] <linuxnewbie756> K3nto, i wouldn't say it would be, actually, i would say it would be harder. mostly because the nsa has a few keys in windows and lets the nsa snoop around you computer anytime, legally.
[02:36] <linxeh> linuxnewbie756: rotfl
[02:36] <slavik> K3nto: all that riaa sees is network connections, you could eat your router and listen to songs that way ... they still see network traffic going into their systems
[02:36] <BigMac> http://rafb.net/p/cZ7Phx58.html
[02:36] <linuxnewbie756> linxeh, i'm serious, you don't believe me?
[02:36] <BigMac> AndrewB: http://rafb.net/p/cZ7Phx58.html
[02:36] <linxeh> linuxnewbie756: no, and you are talking utter nonsense
[02:36] <K3nto> yeah i got nothin to worry about
[02:36] <linuxnewbie756> linxeh, hey, it helps people to convert!
[02:37] <linxeh> linuxnewbie756: no it doesn't - people still use Windows because that's what their software runs on
[02:37] <AndrewB> BigMac: try unplugging cable then  sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[02:37] <linuxnewbie756> linxeh, however, it may be true, i'm not sure, just reporting what i read for what it is. trustworthy source? i don't know, see here. http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html
[02:37] <slavik> linxeh: people use windows because as soon as their hear linux they have no idea what it is and run
[02:38] <linxeh> linuxnewbie756: yeah, I've seen the FUD articles, and that "key" had a totally different use (if you get the Windows source from MS you can see that actually)
[02:38] <slavik> for some reason people expect computers to just work but cars is something that you have to learn how to use and you have to upkeep them ...
[02:38] <AndrewB> K3nto: I do not think that is apt for this channel, and that you are using GNU/Linux for the wrong usage. It is through your ISP they clock you tho.. you could run dos 1.0 for all they care.
[02:38] <slavik> linxeh: you can get the windows source code from ms?
[02:38] <linxeh> slavik: generally people run Windows because the majority of business software is bespoke or written by small software houses purely for Windows
[02:38] <gasp> (back)
[02:38] <linuxnewbie756> linxeh, well, i don't really care, i am windows free, and doesn't really pertain to me.
[02:38] <linxeh> slavik: of course, if you partner with them / pay enough money
[02:39] <linuxnewbie756> linxeh, so who knows, if you say so.
[02:39] <slavik> linxeh: sorry, I am a poor college student who wants to be a gamedev or a *nix sys admin :)
[02:40] <Tom__> all: I'm having trouble starting x.  when I was using the 2.6.17.10 kernel, it would hang while starting on battery power (running on a thinkpad t21).  now that I've updated (including updating the kernel to 2.6.17.11) it seems to hang most of the time while booting.  any ideas?
[02:40] <AndrewB> slavik: does closed source not suggest that it isn't openly readable ;)
[02:40] <linxeh> slavik: well, as a game dev you'll be buying vista and developing on windows, so you can develop stuff that will port easily to xbox360 to maximise your sales :)
[02:42] <steel_lady> I have one unusual and bad question. is somebody wicked here to tell me how I can destroy my work at distance?
[02:42] <lhuynh> quick question: if I executed the "./configure" command, and I get a line like "cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory", wasn't the ./configure supposed to do that for me?
[02:42] <linuxnewbie756> anyone know if it is possible to chat irc from within terminal?
[02:44] <linxeh> sladen: offtopic then
[02:44] <AndrewB> Tom___: sudo apt-get install rcconf    run rcconf as root, and disable usplash
[02:44] <kripton1x> im having video issues
[02:44] <lufi1> holy shiznit
[02:44] <lufi1> it's the exodus!
[02:44] <gasp> wow wow , splitting
[02:44] <AndrewB> !webcam | delmar
[02:44] <ubotu> delmar: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:44] <lufi1> wtf? did i just get laid?
[02:45] <gasp> is there an official ubuntu wiki ?
[02:45] <AndrewB> lufi1: not apt for a GNU/Linux support channel.
[02:45] <BigMac> AndrewB: Could not connect to xchat or any websites
[02:45] <linuxnewbie756> lufi1, no, its the matrix, but only if you have green text on a black background. :)
[02:45] <AndrewB> gasp: wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <lufi1> :P
[02:45] <gasp> thnx AndrewB
[02:45] <lufi1> AndrewB: what's going on?
[02:45] <pete> Hi, now I have an ubuntu question
[02:45] <AndrewB> BigMac: when it is down try running   sudo dhclient
[02:45] <atarinox> hi can somebody help me out with accessing shared folders on my Windows network? i've tried fuse, konqueror, and just installed linneighborhood...can't get any of them working
[02:46] <AndrewB> lufi1: what do you mean?
[02:46] <pete> I am using Xchat, and it is supposed to have a userlist, but I don't see it anywhere
[02:46] <AndrewB> !samba | atarinox
[02:46] <ubotu> atarinox: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:46] <delmar> AndrewB, thanks. but my first concern is.. why cant I get any usb info when its plugged in... all i get from lsusb is " Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 "
[02:46] <lufi1> AndrewB: the hundreds of people leaving/entering?
[02:46] <AndrewB> lufi1: a server may have slit then.
[02:46] <BigMac> AndrewB: The wlanassistant says I am connected
[02:46] <kitche> !netsplit | lufi1
[02:46] <ubotu> lufi1: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[02:46] <delmar> AndrewB, surely I should be able to see some bus info
[02:47] <lufi1> ooh
[02:47] <AndrewB> BigMac: very strange indeed.
[02:47] <transgress> okay ubuntu-docs is trying to upgrade but it appears to just hang when apt tries to install it
[02:47] <transgress> anyone else having this problem?
[02:47] <AndrewB> delmar: yeah you *should* be able to. I am not sure perosnally never done it..
[02:47] <kripton1x> can someone help me with video issues?
[02:47] <linxeh> transgress: I've had it in the past when the mirror site I've configured is playing up
[02:47] <delmar> AndrewB, ah ok i see. nevermind. support for Creative webcams basically sux arse.
[02:47] <AndrewB> delmar: sorry to hear.
[02:47] <khaije> what is going on?
[02:47] <BigMac> Any suggestions, because I would quite like to have internet without a cable again
[02:48] <linxeh> transgress: for me the GB mirror seems really poor at times
[02:48] <AndrewB> linxeh: never had problems here... on 3 ubuntu machines in the house..
[02:48] <AndrewB> linxeh: that is on GB mirror
[02:48] <tcgamer> same on 2
[02:48] <BigMac> AndrewB: Any suggestions, because I would quite like to have internet without a cable agai
[02:48] <delmar> Since im switching entirely to Linux and dont want to use windows... I guess im gonna biff this webcam out.
[02:48] <tcgamer> you can use uh
[02:48] <shadwan> hey y'all
[02:48] <tcgamer> hold on delmar
[02:49] <transgress> linxeh: it's not the mirror.  i'm using us and it's downloading.  it's just not installing the software... it hangs when it is unpacking it
[02:49] <linxeh> AndrewB: sure, it doesn't happen all the time. this is on a couple of ubuntu machines, different hardware, over the course of about 6 months, on two totally independent ISPs. it happens at random for me; usually battering it a few times works
[02:49] <tcgamer> delmar, hold on
[02:49] <muzikgoat> quick question, upgraded to edgy from dapper, lost the verbose load screen, any suggestions on getting it back?
[02:49] <delmar> I see the same problem with my scanner... scan maker 3800 thing i think it is.. cant get that to detect either. lol.
[02:49] <riri> What package should I download to get the C standard library?
[02:49] <delmar> tcgamer, i havent biffed it yet lol :P
[02:49] <eck> muzikgoat: it's just a grub setting, i think
[02:49] <AndrewB> riri: gcc
[02:49] <AndrewB> BigMac: err
[02:49] <kripton1x> I have an i810 that isnt allowing me to set anything higher than a 640x480 resolution
[02:49] <kripton1x> can someone help me troubleshoot this
[02:49] <tcgamer> delmar, you can use gyachi!
[02:49] <delmar> tcgamer, i looked into this 'pcw' driver thing... no joy with that either so far.
[02:49] <delmar> tcgamer, ooo whats that?
[02:49] <eck> riri: you mean libc? it's on every *nix computer by default
[02:50] <transgress> taha got it
[02:50] <tcgamer> delmar, you want to use a web cam right?
[02:50] <linxeh> kripton1x: which X driver are you using?
[02:50] <muzikgoat> eck: grub has control of the ubuntu load?  the graphical one?
[02:50] <eck> you can't run anything without it
[02:50] <riri> I have, but if I try to compile stuff with stdio.h and stdlib.h, gcc doesn't work.
[02:50] <genii> !info dtc-toaster
[02:50] <AndrewB> muzikgoat: yes it does.
[02:50] <eck> muzikgoat: yes, it is passed as a parameter to the kernel
[02:50] <ubotu> Package dtc-toaster does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[02:50] <tcgamer> delmar, am i right?
[02:50] <AndrewB> !grub | muzikgoat
[02:50] <ubotu> muzikgoat: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:50] <genii> hmm
[02:50] <shadwan> i have 25% of my hard drive taken up by xp and i don't want that shit any more. i just installed gparted, but right-clicking on the ntfs windows partition doesn't give me any options. can i somehow get rid of wondows forever but keep everything else forever?
[02:50] <eck> riri: apt-get build-essential
[02:50] <tannerld> does anyone know how to fix http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334828689#post1334828689
[02:50] <eck> riri: you are referring to the headers, not the c library
[02:51] <muzikgoat> kk, ill look in the conf
[02:51] <delmar> tcgamer, yeah. actually.. how this comes about is... there is an intersection right outside my house, and it just rained.. so the boy racers are doing doughnuts and I wanted to fire it up to my server for some mates to see :P
[02:51] <riri> ?
[02:51] <tcgamer> oh
[02:51] <tcgamer> gyachi!
[02:51] <tcgamer> i think it will work
[02:51] <delmar> tcgamer, but a quick mission to see about getting the webcam to even work.. turns into a big unsupported drama
[02:51] <tcgamer> i just got pointed to it for voice chat
[02:51] <eck> riri: the C library is just a bunch of .so files, the headers are the files you need to compile things
[02:51] <delmar> tcgamer, ok cool.
[02:51] <genii> !info gplhost
[02:51] <ubotu> Package gplhost does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[02:51] <kripton1x> linxeh: how can I find that out for you? cause I do not know I havent played areound much with the video
[02:51] <riri> where should I get them?
[02:51] <tcgamer> gyachi.sf.net
[02:51] <genii> bleh
[02:51] <eck> riri: the build-essential package will pull them in
[02:51] <Tom___> AndrewB: thanks for the advise.  I will install rcconf and disable usplash as soon as I can, but I am still following your first bit of advise which was to reconfigure the xserver-xorg.  It got stuck on the video modes selection.  Nothing I do seems to be accepted (keep getting knocked back to the same screen after selecting "OK")
[02:52] <riri> thanks
[02:52] <rotarised> hello everyone. i'd like to install ubuntu in a dual-boot scenario with xp on my machine (which has a 40 gb hard drive). can someone tell me whether this setup would work/is right? 8gb xp ntfs | 9gb / ext3 | 1gb swap | 9 gb /home ext3 | [remaining space]  /documents ext3.
[02:52] <AndrewB> Tom___: good luck.
[02:52] <Tom___> AndrewB:  thanks again.  goodnight5
[02:52] <delmar> tcgamer, i have reservations tho... if I cant even get the USB bus to show anything about the cam being plugged in.. hows this software going to address the camera...
[02:52] <Seveas> rotarised, / could be a bit smaller
[02:52] <matt____1> rotarised: why would you like to keep windows?
[02:52] <BigMac> AndrewB: Any help...
[02:52] <Seveas> or you could merge / and /home
[02:52] <tcgamer> delmar, i thinkits worth a try
[02:53] <AndrewB> BigMac: I have already said I dunno.  try running dhclient after you take out tha cable..
[02:53] <delmar> tcgamer, damn right
[02:53] <eck> rotarised: i would make / and swap a bit smaller, and make xp a bit bigger
[02:53] <rotarised> because i'd need to use windows for certain tasks
[02:53] <eck> rotarised: 4-5 GB is plenty for /
[02:53] <hairulfr> Hey, what do I need to enable my second display?
[02:53] <tannerld> does anyone know how to fix http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334828689#post1334828689
[02:53] <matt____1> rotarised: like what tasks? i was in your boat, but once you catch onto linux, you don't really need windows anymore, like what do you need?
[02:53] <eck> rotarised: also, you might consider just doing lvm if you want to have it all split up anyway
[02:54] <tcgamer> delmar, try it out...i'm a n00b but it sounds like it is the perfect match!
[02:54] <rotarised> what's lvm?
[02:54] <delmar> tcgamer, there is even a package for edgy... http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gyachi/gyachi_1.0.5-1_edgy_i386.deb
[02:54] <K3nto> http://www.peekvid.com
[02:54] <K3nto> that site pwns
[02:54] <matt____1> rotarised: logical volume management
[02:54] <tcgamer> delmar, there you go!
[02:55] <delmar> tcgamer, now.. i f u hadnt been around or suggested that.. i would never have known... wish there was a better way to search out this info. lol.
[02:55] <riri> stuff compiles now, thanks eck
[02:55] <tcgamer> delmar, its called google my friend
[02:55] <eck> rotarised: it's kind of complicated, but basically you can create volume groups and mount parts of the filesystem at them, and you can grow the volume groups later
[02:55] <atarinox> AndrewB: so I have to make an fstab entry for each individual computer on the network?
[02:55] <matt____1> can someone put my name at the beggining of a random message, i want to see the result
[02:55] <eck> riri: np
[02:55] <gasp> grrr, there is a cute redhead girl sleeping in my bed, and what am i doing at 3 AM ? installing goddamn linux :-(
[02:55] <rotarised> yeah, i'm going to place all the ubuntu and shared data in a logical partition
[02:55] <Seveas> matt____1, moo
[02:55] <tcgamer> delmar, sourceforge is a great resource
[02:55] <linxeh> matt____1: foo bar baz foobar foobaz
[02:55] <matt____1> Seveas: thank you, i am trying irc chat in terminal/ :)
[02:55] <tcgamer> DOS ANYONE KNOW IF I CAN RUN APPS DURING MY EDGY UPDATE?
[02:56] <tcgamer> sorry caps
[02:56] <Seveas> !caps | tcgamer
[02:56] <ubotu> tcgamer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:56] <eck> rotarised: if you want to use lvm you'll have to do a fair amount of reading to make sure you understand it and do it properly, just to let you know
[02:56] <delmar> tcgamer, sure but I have googled like hell .. and all I found were references to things like 'pcw'/
[02:56] <tcgamer> huh
[02:56] <matt____1> is there someway i can change settings for irc chat in terminal?
[02:56] <Seveas> tcgamer, and yes you can
[02:56] <delmar> tcgamer, as far as I know u can run anything u wanna.
[02:56] <Seveas> matt____1, irssi?
[02:56] <shadwan> sorry about repeating myself: i have 25% of my hard drive taken up by xp and i don't want that shit any more. i just installed gparted, but right-clicking on the ntfs windows partition doesn't give me any options. i want to keep all the stuff on my ext3 partition.  ??
[02:56] <rotarised> fair amount? i've only like got this weekend
[02:56] <delmar> tcgamer, u will need to restart stuff that got updated of course...
[02:56] <tcgamer> i know!
[02:56] <tcgamer> yes...
[02:56] <matt____1> i got here by tryping irc in terminal
[02:56] <tcgamer> hehe
[02:56] <tcgamer> thats sweet!
[02:56] <tcgamer> lemme try
[02:57] <matt____1> irssi
[02:57] <Seveas> matt____1, ~/.irssi/config
[02:57] <Seveas> and us google, you can tweak a lot in irssi :)
[02:57] <matt____1> Seveas: where is that? in your home folder?
[02:57] <Seveas> matt____1, ~ is your homefolder
[02:58] <vlt|home> Hello. What's the name of the ncurses based LVM config tool that's used during the install process? Can I use it later standalone to modify lvm settings easily?
[02:58] <Seveas> vlt|home, no, it's part of the installer
[02:58] <rotarised> ah well. thanks everyone! (especially eck). i'll see what i can do today
[02:58] <matt____1> Seveas: i don't have the config in my .irssi, do i have to create it and then add some options?
[02:58] <cables> I just got an update for ubuntu-docs, and the updater has been running at 80% of my CPU for about 10 minutes, on the "setting up" stage.
[02:58] <eck> shadwan: is xp at the beginning or end of the partition?
[02:58] <eck> err disk
[02:58] <tcgamer> argh..
[02:59] <tcgamer> updates update everything so now dansguardian is locking me out
[02:59] <tcgamer> :)
[02:59] <vlt|home> Seveas: And it isn't availbale as installable package? Strange ..
[02:59] <shadwan> eck: first on the list in gparted. and on the graphic.
[02:59] <tcgamer> delmar, any luck :)
[02:59] <cables> Never mind about the ubuntu-docs thing, it just finished.
[02:59] <Seveas> matt____1, yeah
[02:59] <delmar> tcgamer, not with my 'gaim' popping up every 5mins. just told them to sodd off. :PP
[03:00] <matt____1> Seveas: so i create a file, name it config, and then find things on google i can add?
[03:00] <eck> shadwan: just to let you know, you won't be able to grow the ext3 partition into that space, you'll have to create a new ext3 partition
[03:00] <eck> shadwan: if its not mounted you can just use mkfs
[03:00] <eck> i.e. you can only grow a partition out to the right
[03:00] <Seveas> matt____1, irssi should write a default one, maybe only if you /quit
[03:00] <shadwan> eck: ok. thanks. i suspected as much. i guess a fresh install will be a blessing in a way. thanks for the help!
[03:01] <shadwan> eck: mkfs?
[03:01] <tcgamer> delmar, downloading?
[03:01] <ZeZu> how do i print what a symlink links to ?
[03:01] <eck> shadwan: you aren't using lvm, are you?
[03:01] <delmar> tcgamer, yeah done.. installed.. just having a play...
[03:01] <ZeZu> ls -n or smth similar?
[03:01] <tcgamer> really?!
[03:01] <Seveas> ZeZu, readlink /path/to/symlink
[03:01] <Seveas> or ls -l
[03:01] <tcgamer> delmar, really?!
[03:01] <ZeZu> -l thx
[03:01] <eck> shadwan: um, something like this: mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/hda1
[03:01] <genii> If anyone familiar with hosting control panels such as: http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc.html  http://www.gnupanel.org/ or http://www.ispconfig.org/ please give a suggestion as to what may work wel under 6.06 Server
[03:01] <eck> taht would reformat the partition with ext3
[03:02] <shadwan> eck: that's greek to me. i installed ubuntu and xp, i'm running kde. that's all i know. useless, i'm sure.
[03:02] <tcgamer> delmar, i hope it works :P
[03:02] <matt____1> ok, after i did /quit, it wrote a config file
[03:02] <eck> shadwan: well i suspect you aren't, but if you were using lvm it would be possible to merge two partitions into a single space
[03:02] <colbert> Hello I just did sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, now the guide says "Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source." What do I type in terminal ??
[03:02] <delmar> tcgamer, havent found video yet.. i see it points to /dev/video0  .. so i think thats gonna break it.... there is no device on /dev/video0 because there is no driver  talkin to the hardware.. and the usb bus reports nothing attached...so when i try to fire up the video (when i find that part in a sec) .. i know its gonna break.. but we shall see
[03:02] <avv> hi all
[03:03] <eck> shadwan: if you reinstall, consider splitting out the install into at least a / and /home partition
[03:03] <someonebuiltanew> hello
[03:03] <tcgamer> delmar, argh
[03:03] <someonebuiltanew> is there a way i can find out if im running 64-bit or 32-bit?
[03:03] <eck> shadwan: that way you can reinstall/upgrade easily in the future without worrying about losing data
[03:03] <shadwan> eck: tell you what. answer me this: with a fresh install, how should i go about installing kde without the HUGE number of unneccessary programs? i installed it over gnome and it appears...bloated.
[03:04] <delmar> tcgamer, i cant see where i can fire up a webcam window....lookin
[03:04] <genii> Also is there a channel specific to server/LAMP install?
[03:04] <Seveas> someonebuiltanew, dpkg --print-architecture
[03:04] <eck> shadwan: i think there is a kubuntu install disc
[03:04] <eck> i'm not sure, i don't use kde
[03:04] <someonebuiltanew> thanks seveas
[03:04] <shadwan> eck: and i will certainly look up the forums on splitting up the home partition as you say
[03:05] <someonebuiltanew> seveas, it says i386
[03:05] <someonebuiltanew> does that mean 32-bit
[03:05] <Seveas> yup
[03:05] <someonebuiltanew> dammit
[03:05] <someonebuiltanew> do i have to reinstall to get 64-bit?
[03:05] <Seveas> yup
[03:05] <someonebuiltanew> but not with the same live cd?
[03:05] <Seveas> correct
[03:05] <someonebuiltanew> or do i do something different while installing?
[03:05] <tcgamer> delmar, the moment of truth!
[03:06] <Seveas> you need a 64bit livecd
[03:06] <shadwan> eck: does the kubuntu install disc ( i have a fairly recent one somewhere ) include the same baggage as doing "apt-get install kde" on edgy ubuntu?
[03:06] <tcgamer> delmar, thumbs up, thumbs down?
[03:06] <Seveas> shadwan, no
[03:06] <Seveas> shadwan, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <Seveas> that's part of what apt-get install kde installs and a lot of other things
[03:06] <someonebuiltanew> seveas, ok thanks cya
[03:06] <eck> shadwan: you will not get the things in ubuntu-desktop that aren't in kubuntu-desktop, i.e. all of the gnome stuff
[03:07] <tcgamer> delmar, tell me it worked!
[03:07] <delmar> tcgamer, got it connected to my yahoo account ok... all i see in the setup is the /dev/video0 thing and i cant se ehow to fire up like.. a local webcam thingie.
[03:07] <shadwan> Seveas: ok. thanks. that's my next move sorted. thanks. and eck: cheers for the help. i'm leaving gnome behind. simply because i want to be able to customise my mouse pointer!
[03:07] <shadwan> Cheers
[03:08] <Seveas> shadwan, in gnome you can do that :)
[03:08] <shadwan> seveas: also i utterly hate totem
[03:08] <delmar> tcgamer, ok i see... nah i dont think its working at all
[03:08] <tcgamer> delmar, great! :)
[03:08] <Seveas> shadwan, amarok, vlc, mplayer etc all work in gnome
[03:08] <shadwan> and i get the impression that it sticks itself all over gnome apps
[03:09] <omglazers> Would someone mind helping out a switching windows to ubuntu user with his first setup? Im just having issues I think with drivers and such :(
[03:09] <Seveas> only in nautils for thumbnail rendering
[03:09] <shadwan> seveas: am i wrong?
[03:09] <mzanfardino> ok, I just got home after I booted my machine and my desktop is not loading.  What log files should I be looking at to tell me what went wrong?
[03:09] <shadwan> seveas: it's firefox and not being able to get mplayer/kaffeine to override totem that's my real boggle
[03:09] <delmar> tcgamer, will be easier if I just buy a new webcam that is supported :P
[03:10] <eck> mzanfardino: is it a problem with X? where exactly is it failing?
[03:10] <tcgamer> delmar, sorry i couldn't help u
[03:10] <atarinox> can somebody help me with the samba guide, and an error message I keep receiving?
[03:10] <tcgamer> delmar, god bless g2g
[03:10] <Seveas> shadwan, yeah i hate that too... I install a dummy package for the totem firefox plugin
[03:10] <delmar> tcgamer, thats ok man. thanks for your efforts.
[03:10] <Seveas> shadwan, but that's more firefox' dumbness than totem
[03:10] <mzanfardino> eck: I get the splash screen during the boot process, then I receive the "kubuntu" generic screen, then it hangs (at which time I switch to tty1 and start looking for answers)
[03:11] <mzanfardino> eck
[03:11] <eck> mzanfardino: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/messages
[03:11] <eck> those would be the most likely candidates
[03:11] <mzanfardino> eck: I don't recall having changed anythign this morning before I left...
[03:11] <raven3x7> his there any way to get fullscreen to work with vlc?
[03:11] <keith_> i got beryl rockin on my ubnuntu laptop!
[03:11] <shadwan> seveas: i've been using linux for a year now and "dummy package" is still nonsense to me. i'm going to try kubuntu fresh and get rid of my xp partition. thanks for the help.
[03:11] <eck> mzanfardino: um, you might also want to check root's mail spool to see if syslog tried to send you anything
[03:11] <omglazers> Would someone mind helping me figure out why the heck im not getting my network controller in ubuntu?
[03:11] <Seveas> shadwan, have fun!
[03:12] <eck> mzanfardino: which might happen e.g. if it detected a hardware component was failing
[03:12] <eck> omglazers: wired or wireless?
[03:12] <shadwan> seveas: i'm bound to. at least it's a learning exercise. this must be my 8th or 9th reinstall. but i feel confident that i've found something that i can stick with.
[03:13] <eck> shadwan: then you should definitely use a separate /home partition!
[03:13] <Jarhead756> for all using irssi, is there someway by editing the config file i can make the, on mine, blue bar at the top dissapear?
[03:13] <peeps> what is a CTCP version?
[03:13] <eck> shadwan: it lets you keep /home intact if you do a new install
[03:13] <Seveas> peeps, who sent it?
[03:13] <rivanov> hi, I'm looking to start developing in Linux; I've never done any coding so far; what's a fairly historic, stable, && well written baseline (C++, Java, Perl, mainly)
[03:13] <keith_> whats irssi mean?
[03:13] <stars> hey
[03:13] <peeps> Seveas freenode-connect
[03:13] <rivanov> coding in Linux that is
[03:13] <stars> who was k3nto helping
[03:14] <mzanfardino> eck: well, the Xorg.0.log states quite plainly that it failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module...
[03:14] <Seveas> peeps, that's ok, just the server doing some chcks on you
[03:14] <slv> if i have ubuntu installed on two machines, are there any wikis on getting my settings from one machine copied to another?
[03:14] <omglazers> eck: Wired
[03:14] <omglazers> eck: Shows up in lspci
[03:14] <shadwan> eck: i will certainly try. first i need to get some dvds to back up my massive film and music collection to! oh. are you saying there is something i can do to keep my CURRENT data intact?
[03:14] <eck> mzanfardino: ugh... check your home directory for core dumps
[03:14] <stars> Seveas why boot k3nto ? links are allowed i thouht
[03:14] <shadwan> eck: or from afresh?
[03:14] <Jarhead756> can i make the blue bar at the top dissapear in irssi?
[03:15] <detectiveinspekt> rhythmbox doesn't play any music
[03:15] <eck> shadwan: you might reformat the xp partition, make it into something like /data, copy your things there, and then not reformat that when you reinstall. it sort of depends if that's a good allocation of space for you ornot
[03:15] <keith_> whats syslog mean?
[03:15] <eck> omglazers: dhcp?
[03:15] <eck> keith_: it's what logs the messages on your computer
[03:15] <genii> rivanov Most useful things in *nix are written in C/C++ and then compiled to binaries. Though Perl and PHP are also useful for such things as web apps and so on.
[03:15] <mzanfardino> eck: what am I looking for specifically?
[03:15] <keith_> whats irsii mean?
[03:15] <omglazers> eck: Sorry was looking at it. Its 'unknown device 4364' and doesnt show up in network.. dunno if i dont have drivers or what
[03:15] <JamesBeen> is there a games channel for ubuntu?
[03:16] <bayziders> how do you find out how many megahurtz/gigahurtz and how much ram your computer has?
[03:16] <shadwan> eck: aha. i think i'll spend a few quid and back stuff up and start anew. the ratios that i've allocated to xp/ubuntu have been arbitrary, so i'd rather do it all fresh.
[03:16] <coachz> can anyone tell me how to create / register a new freenode channel or what channel can help?
[03:16] <eck> mzanfardino: usually a core dump is just a file called 'core'. the reason i mention this is i saw someone in here a couple days ago who kept having X lock up and firefox left a core dump indicating that it was thefault of the nvidia drivers
[03:16] <Seveas> bayziders, cat /proc/{cpu,mem}info
[03:17] <detectiveinspekt> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:17] <mzanfardino> eck: double checking, but no core dump that I can see..
[03:17] <gasp> can i install apache, php and mysql on the desktop version of ubuntu ?
[03:17] <Seveas> gasp, sure
[03:17] <JamesBeen> aynone ever play Savage on ubuntu?
[03:17] <eck> mzanfardino: also look at dmesg
[03:17] <keith_> i dont think ubuntu us using my ati video card to its full capacity
[03:17] <bayziders> Seveas: type in the terminal type cat /proc/{cpu,mem}info ?
[03:17] <gasp> great ! thnx Seveas
[03:17] <eck> you can just tail it probably
[03:17] <Seveas> coachz, ask in a freenode supportchannel please
[03:17] <rivanov> genii: what is '*nix'?
[03:17] <Seveas> bayziders, yup
[03:17] <bayziders> Okay, thanks.
[03:17] <coachz> Seveas   #freenode  ?
[03:18] <keith_> like windows sis
[03:18] <Seveas> keith_, if beryl works, then it is
[03:18] <keith_> did*
[03:18] <Seveas> coachz, sounds good
[03:18] <coachz> thanks !
[03:18] <keith_> i mean on my desktop
[03:18] <stars> Seveas eh i got why u booted him
[03:18] <keith_> i have ubuntu on both computers
[03:18] <shadwan> i'm about to leave windows behind for good. the only thing that made me keep an xp partition was a pirate version of AVID - the dv editing software. what - if anything - is worth trying on ubuntu to do the same basic dv editing job?
[03:18] <Lazergunz> :) Hey guys, just tried to install Nvidia drivers downloaded, run the package, but im missing some 'ld system utility' ? any ideas
[03:18] <stars> anywya who was getting help from that dork? um k3nto
[03:18] <raven3x7> keith whats the output of fglrxinfo
[03:18] <Seveas> keith_, ok, try this: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:18] <eck> mzanfardino: iirc you can start X using the 'vesa' driver for the vieo card, and it will run without using your video card
[03:18] <Seveas> if it says yes, then it works
[03:18] <genii> rivanov linux unix and so on. "*nix" is generally used to describe all of the distributions which behave in a unix-like manner
[03:18] <stars> oo i had that before Lazergunz lemme think
[03:19] <keith_> ok it works
[03:19] <Lazergunz> stars: :) sure thing.
[03:19] <keith_> i mean how do i turn up the antilailasing
[03:19] <raven3x7> keith_, have you even installed fglrx?
[03:19] <eck> Lazergunz: that is provided by build-essential
[03:19] <Joeeigel> Can some1 help me?
[03:19] <eck> it is the linker
[03:19] <keith_> yes
[03:19] <keith_> i just need to turn up the settings
[03:19] <keith_> like the antialaising
[03:19] <rivanov> genii: so what would a good starting point be in the OS? kernel? Gnome? Firefox? I mean I really do'nt know too much about the system APIs; I just need some solid code to look at, run, debug, and play with
[03:19] <Lazergunz> eck: By what now :P
[03:19] <stars> Lazergunz try: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:19] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:19] <Seveas> eck, 'vesa' still uses the video card but only the most basic functions that worked since the early 90s
[03:19] <keith_> how do i do that
[03:19] <eck> Lazergunz: install the build-essential package
[03:20] <stars> ah eck to the rescue lol
[03:20] <eck> Seveas: i see
[03:20] <meezyfuh> hey, i just want to say that ubuntu installed flawlessly on my laptop, and it's so BEAUTIFUL and easy to use! i love iT!!!!
[03:20] <Jarhead756> within irssi, can i remove the blue bar at the top of the terminal window?
[03:20] <keith_> how do i turn up the antialaising
[03:20] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: have you got mp3 and other codecs working?
[03:20] <keith_> its not as clear as it was on windows
[03:20] <bayziders> MemTotal:       514816 kB
[03:20] <bayziders>  means i have 514mbs of ram?
[03:20] <Seveas> no
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> rhythmbox doesn't play mp3s
[03:21] <eck> bayziders: check your math :-)
[03:21] <Seveas> 514816/1024
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> help
[03:21] <Joeeigel> Can some1 help me?
[03:21] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:21] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: i don't know. i'm sure i'm going to come back with some questions about installing stuff but for now it's nice!
[03:21] <mzanfardino> eck: yeah, I saved my original xorg.conf.  Let me see if it boots with that.
[03:21] <skiloup> When I hibernate my laptop or put it to sleep, I have to reconfigure my wireless by running iwconfig, and then run wifi-radar to associate to the appropriate ap and get the dhcp lease.... Anybody know how I can force iwconfig to do all this so I can shove it in a script?
[03:21] <Seveas> @calc 514816/1024
[03:21] <Jarhead756> bayziders: no, something to do with bytes and bits
[03:21] <Seveas> Ubugtu, !
[03:21] <Lazergunz> eck: How do I install it >.<
[03:21] <stars> !w32codecs
[03:21] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:21] <stars> detectiveinspekt thats for you
[03:21] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: my word of advice, don't use "easyubuntu", or automatix, they break all sorts of stuff
[03:21] <stars> hm
[03:21] <shadwan> Thanks a bunch, eck and seveas! Windows will be gone forever shortly (not that I payed for the fucker anyway). Cheers for the assistance!
[03:21] <keith_> how do i turn up the antialaising
[03:21] <keith_> its not as clear as it was on windows
[03:21] <stars> hey Seveas are you that seveas btw?
[03:21] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: i'd just use the installer.
[03:21] <keith_> >.<
[03:22] <Seveas> shadwan, please watch your tongue
[03:22] <Seveas> stars, yes
[03:22] <stars> sweet
[03:22] <stars> love your work man
[03:22] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: the application installer thing.
[03:22] <eck> Seveas: i seem to recall that it is possible to run X11 in a framebuffer, without a video card. do you know if this is the case?
[03:22] <meezyfuh> Jarhead756: pm?
[03:22] <stars> one thing ive been dying to ask is who maintains w32 codecs ?
[03:22] <bayziders> 502 mb of ram?
[03:22] <Seveas> eck, even that uses the video card
[03:22] <stars> i was thinking of updating them a bit,..
[03:22] <cchance> Where can i get more screen savers for ubuntu 60.6 LTS
[03:22] <Seveas> can't have video without video card
[03:22] <keith_> how do i turn up the antialaising
[03:22] <keith_> its not as clear as it was on windows
[03:22] <genii> rivanov Examining kernel modules source code has been enlightening for me but your mileage may vary. What you may try is to download some source code for a particular package and examine it with from inside of kdevelop or another such development interface
[03:22] <cchance> 6.06*
[03:22] <peeps> keith: what is not clear?
[03:22] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: what do you mean? those are programs that i mentioned that are supposed to make it easier to get mp3 playback and stuff, install other programs. at first they sound really nice, but then they break things.
[03:22] <Lazergunz> stars: no change with apt-get -f install  >.<
[03:22] <localghost> Good evening. I cannot get libapache2_modxslt working.
[03:22] <keith_> when i play my video games
[03:22] <Joeeigel> Can some1 help me?
[03:22] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:23] <eck> Seveas: yes, that makes sense -- the monitor is plugged into the card's interface
[03:23] <keith_> its not as clear i see jagged lines
[03:23] <Jarhead756> meezyfuh: i am using irssi to chat, how can i pm withing it?
[03:23] <stars> Lazergunz eck there said its in build-essential ::: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:23] <keith_> and it wasnt like that before
[03:23] <rivanov> genii: ty for the advice, I'll go ahead and try that
[03:23] <keith_> so i was wondering how do i turn up the settings on the card
[03:23] <Lazergunz> stars: ah sorry my mistake :) thankyou.
[03:23] <peeps> keith: what games, what card, and do you have the latest drivers for your card?
[03:23] <detectiveinspekt> !w32codecs
[03:23] <Seveas> eck framebuffer driver does all rendering in software and only display in hardware (much like vesa), so most of modern cards is left untouched
[03:23] <Jarhead756> keith_: what kind of kard do you have?
[03:23] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:24] <skiloup> anybody using wireless with ubuntu?
[03:24] <Seveas> !anybody | skiloup
[03:24] <ubotu> skiloup: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:24] <cliebow_> i am right now
[03:24] <keith_> ati 1650 pro
[03:24] <stars> Lazergunz lol all good.. thank eck since he knew right off the bat after all...
[03:24] <Joeeigel> im having a problem burning the .iso to the CD
[03:24] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: what sort of .iso?
[03:24] <keith_> and i installed the drivers
[03:24] <Joeeigel> the 6.10 ISO
[03:24] <Lazergunz> :P thanks eck >.<!
[03:24] <eck> Lazergunz: np :-)
[03:24] <stars> XD
[03:24] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: my guess, it is corrupted.
[03:24] <stars> sup eck btw
[03:25] <genii> rivanov Also there are many good C/C++ tutorials available online, starting from a basic "hello world" type of program on up to such things as writing device drivers
[03:25] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: what sort of connection speed you got?
[03:25] <eck> likewise
[03:25] <Joeeigel> i downloaded it fine, ive extraced it ones, burnt it to a CD
[03:25] <Joeeigel> booted from CD
[03:25] <Arkaitz> How can I add a new user from the terminal?
[03:25] <Joeeigel> then it didnt work
[03:25] <Seveas> Arkaitz, adduser
[03:25] <K3nto> my bad
[03:25] <raven3x7> is there any way to get fullscreen to work with VLC?
[03:25] <Joeeigel> K3nto!
[03:25] <K3nto> link was supposed to go in PM
[03:25] <stars> pervert >.>
[03:25] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: it may have something to do with hardware. probably graphics card, what sort of gc do you have?
[03:25] <stars> j/k
[03:26] <Joeeigel> Radeon 9600 series
[03:26] <Lazergunz> >.< Lets  hope Cedega decides to work haha. It has its times.
[03:26] <genii> OK, asking again: If anyone familiar with hosting control panels such as: http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc.html  http://www.gnupanel.org/ or http://www.ispconfig.org/ please give a suggestion as to what may work well or has been tested under 6.06 Server. I found a good howto for the gplhost dtc install here: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.06_dtc_isp_server
[03:26] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: , that is why. something to do with drivers, how bad do you want ubuntu?
[03:26] <Joeeigel> very lol
[03:26] <K3nto> Joeeigel: hi
[03:26] <localghost> Xubuntu 6.10 powerpc apache 2.0, mod_xslt: I could not get it working, XML seems to be parsed by the browser. I have tried to follow all instructions given by http://mod-xslt2.com/ plus some more documentation and still nothing.
[03:26] <Joeeigel> Talk in PM K3nto
[03:26] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: ok, hold on, let me find this tutorial for you.
[03:27] <stars> genii
[03:27] <K3nto> kk
[03:27] <stars> so you want a good control panel is what your saying?
[03:27] <keith_> are there viruses in linux?
[03:27] <stars> does webmin not work for you?
[03:27] <Joeeigel> Yes, but not as many
[03:27] <stars> keith_ sure
[03:27] <stars> like 100
[03:27] <stars> XD
[03:27] <skiloup> what's the best way to force iwconfig to associate to my ap?
[03:27] <keith_> so i can still get a virus?
[03:27] <genii> stars Yes, hopefully one which is well used in Debian distros and has active development LOL
[03:27] <K3nto> Joeegil: did you register/identify?
[03:27] <keith_> from surfing web sites
[03:27] <keith_> pr0n web sites?
[03:27] <Joeeigel> Regester/identify?
[03:28] <stars> genii well im asking if webmin would work ?
[03:28] <genii> stars The type of control panels I am meaning is for domain-hosting
[03:28] <eck> webmin is no longer supported in ubuntu
[03:28] <slavik> keith_: from anything you install, except stuff in the repos (although those can get compromised, too)
[03:28] <Joeeugek> lol
[03:28] <eck> !webmin
[03:28] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:28] <stars> mm
[03:28] <genii> eck thanks
[03:28] <keith_> wow i should just go back to xp then
[03:28] <stars> genii are you able to have absolute full control over machines?
[03:28] <genii> stars Yes
[03:28] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: here it is. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Nvidia_Intel_Integrated . i think this should work, i had the hardest time with my nvidia, and this should help you. i'm not sure, it's supposed to work with ati cards. also may have a small difference since you are trying edgy instead of dapper.
[03:29] <Joeeigel> ty
[03:29] <keith_> so i can play any game i want
[03:29] <stars> one place you should get familiar with quickly i would say is ubuntuforums.org
[03:29] <K3nto> Sivako: type "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <yourpassword>
[03:29] <keith_> cause i just bought a 300 dollar graphics card and linux isnt making full use of it
[03:29] <Joeeigel> yea i forgot that lol
[03:29] <slavik> keith_: I can play WoW, Ut2k4, Doom3 (if I find the first disc so I can isntall it) and HL2 (and mods) :)
[03:29] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: if you continue to have problems, come back here, eventually you can get it to work, i promise,
[03:29] <stars> btw
[03:29] <eck> genii: if you want to use any such hosting panels you are pretty much on your own, the debian/ubuntu devs consider them to be Bad Things
[03:29] <ryanakca> at the bottom of http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4 . Why does this commands give these errors? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8311/
[03:30] <K3nto> Joeegil: "/msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[03:30] <slavik> keith_: what card? and look up how to install binary drivers
[03:30] <Joeeigel> Junkhead
[03:30] <keith_> i have the ATI 1650 pro
[03:30] <stars> if anyone knows who keeps up those forums they should whip them badly... the search doesnt even work very well anymore... might be nice to add a google search of the site to the search ability
[03:30] <keith_> i installed the drivers
[03:30] <tunganet> If someone is remote desktop-ing me, how do i stop during the session?
[03:30] <keith_> it still isnt performing good like it did in windows
[03:30] <D7x> where is the apache config file located?
[03:30] <keith_> windows had a pretty little console for it
[03:31] <coachz> Can anyone tell me what channel to go to to learn how to setup my own channel?   I tried #freenode and it says cannot send to channel.
[03:31] <ryanakca> coachz: to setup your own channel: /join #channel   and /cs help
[03:31] <genii> eck LOL well, most ppl are not using the 6.06 server version much in this way I am finding. They all seem to be running stock Debian boxes. But at the moment I am tinkering with it.
[03:31] <transgress_> okay gdm doesn't seem to pay attention to .xsession does anyone know what it pays attention to?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Can I just install LILO with the Alternate CD but not install the system ( recovering unbootable system ) ?
[03:32] <tunganet> If someone is remote desktop-ing me, how do i stop during the session?
[03:32] <coachz> thanks
[03:32] <coachz> is there a support channel ?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> transgress: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom ?
[03:32] <tunganet> How do i stop the other person from remote desktoping me?
[03:32] <gyaresu> coachz: or check out http://freenode.net
[03:32] <transgress_> Jordan_U: you can ... or you can use a livecd and chroot into the real environment
[03:32] <keith_> o well linux saves me money from wasting it on gsme cds
[03:32] <keith_> most games suck ass anywaty
[03:32] <omglazers> Anyone here mind helping me out in compiling the ubuntu kernel?
[03:32] <coachz> i tried http://freenode.net  but it's a mess
[03:32] <Prophet> Anyone familiar with Hydra?
[03:33] <gyaresu> omglazers: http://howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way Are you trying this?
[03:33] <Joeeigel> Jarhead
[03:33] <keith_> ill try linux from scratch
[03:33] <keith_> and make my own drivers
[03:33] <Jordan_U> transgress_: Doesn't work, I was hoping that the liveCD would have some extra stuff for intel macs ( it does in fact ) that would make a lilo install work from the install CD
[03:34] <eck> transgress_: i think just the things in /etc/gdm
[03:34] <Jarhead756> Does anyone know when Feisy Fawn is due out?
[03:34] <eck> Jarhead756: april
[03:34] <preaction> Jordan_U: grub works with rEFIt
[03:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: No. I have a marvell possibly yukon ethernet that I need to enable and I have to compile it in the kernel, enabling a flag there (or so im told)
[03:34] <Joeeigel> jarhead
[03:34] <omglazers> And I have no fking clue how to do that.
[03:34] <preaction> Jordan_U: as long as you've installed bootcamp
[03:34] <omglazers> So I have to figure out how to compile a kernel
[03:34] <Jordan_U> preaction: But GRUB isn't working, that's the problem, it was, now it isn't
[03:34] <Jarhead756> eck: when exactly in april? early or latter? and does ubuntu have a great record for coming out when expected?
[03:34] <gyaresu> omglazers: You can't just load it as a module?
[03:35] <eck> omglazers: are you sure there is no kernel module in the ubuntu kernel?
[03:35] <keith_> so when i upgrade to feisty fawn do i have to delete all my settings in edgy
[03:35] <eck> Jarhead756: it will be out on time
[03:35] <`nicola> which software can I use to synchronize the same folder on 3 different hard disk ?
[03:35] <omglazers> I have NO clue
[03:35] <keith_> and start all over again?
[03:35] <omglazers> All I know is that my ether is not recognized
[03:35] <tunganet> How do i stop the other person from remote desktoping me?
[03:35] <eck> Jarhead756: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[03:35] <gyaresu> eck: You want to handle omglazers question?
[03:35] <preaction> `nicola: man rsync
[03:35] <`nicola> thanks preaction
[03:35] <preaction> tunganet: disable remote desktop?
[03:35] <eck> sure
[03:35] <transgress_> Jordan_U: i've done it.  it will work.  you can follow the steps in the gentoo handbook as that is how you install gentoo...
[03:35] <Jarhead756> eck: i am using dapper, how will i be able to upgrade? i for one am using an nvidia card, will this upgrade cause all sorts of trouble for me?
[03:36] <gyaresu> eck: Thanks (I can if you're busy). Just thought I'd ask.
[03:36] <omglazers> Eck: Ive got the ethernet problem which I was told I could fix by enabling a flag for the hardware in the kernel
[03:36] <Lazergunz> eck:  >.< I must close ' x server because its already running ' before i continue to install the drivers. Any ideas =S
[03:36] <eck> gyaresu: go for it
[03:36] <mheath> Jarhead756, No, Ubuntu does not have the best track record as far as coming out "when expected". Several releases have been slightly delayed before, though the delays were usually minor.
[03:36] <mheath> Jarhead756, Starting in Dapper, Ubuntu includes an integrated distribution upgrade tool.
[03:36] <omglazers> gyaresu: You want to help ? :\
[03:36] <LookTj> any reasons why my jabber.org isn't connecting?
[03:36] <Prophet> Anyone familiar with Hydra?  I keep encountering an error I could use some help with.
[03:37] <ryanakca> at the bottom of http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4 . Those commands give these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8311/   . I was then told to change host from localhost to % in users table. How do I do that?
[03:37] <eck> Jarhead756: you will have to wait until closer to the release
[03:37] <Joeeigel> Jarhead!!!
[03:37] <preaction> Lazergunz: logout of Gnome, Ctrl+Alt+F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:37] <mheath> Jarhead756, and while upgrades are usually pretty smooth, Video card drivers have been a bit of a problem area.
[03:37] <gyaresu> omglazers: Could you please post the links to the info you have so far? pastebin your lspci and maybe the pages on teh interweb that you've found this info...
[03:37] <eck> Jarhead756: i am not really sure how clsoely nvidia is tracking X11
[03:37] <mheath> Jarhead756, It's impossibleto say at this point how much trouble your nvida drivers will be in the upgrade.
[03:37] <keith_> jarhead are you in the marines
[03:37] <Jarhead756> is there some sort of program i can install so that i can view webpages from within terminal?
[03:37] <Jarhead756> Joeeigel: do you need something?
[03:37] <omglazers> gyaresu: I can't pastebin anything from my lspci because im on my laptop and my desktop is getting the nux. I can tell you what I was given advice on in the #linux channel after we discussed the lspci info
[03:37] <mheath> keith_, He's not. No real Marine would be on here with a nickname of Jarhead.
[03:37] <omglazers> gyaresu: This is the line about my ethernet from lspci
[03:38] <starscalling> eh
[03:38] <starscalling> sweet
[03:38] <eck> Jarhead756: xorg 7.2 came out a while ago, so i think nvidia will have their stuff together in time
[03:38] <`nicola> preaction, rsync looks great is there any other software with GUI ? thanks
[03:38] <keith_> i was active duty marines
[03:38] <eck> they probably already do
[03:38] <Jarhead756> www.google.com
[03:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: "ethernet controller: marvell technology group ltd. unknown device 4364 (rev 12)"
[03:38] <Soccer5555> http://www.jibjab.com/originals/originals/jibjab/movieid/70 XD
[03:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: I was told by briareus in #linux "there is a flag in "menuconfig" (your kernel config) in the following section: Device Drivers -> Ethernet (1000 Mbit) --> and the flag is called:   < > Marvell Yukon Chipset / SysKonnect SK-98xx Support"
[03:38] <slavik> marvel, no so good support
[03:38] <gyaresu> omglazers: and did someone tell you the name of the kernel driver you needed?
[03:39] <omglazers> gyaresu: My motherboard is the gigabyte s3 (see: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128017)
[03:39] <eck> slavik: even for a wired nic?
[03:39] <preaction> `nicola: google for "rsync GUI" http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/rsyncweb.htm
[03:39] <mheath> keith_, not sure I buy that as most Marines I know would say "I was a Marine" not "I was active duty marines". They don't talk like that.
[03:39] <gyaresu> omglazers: Cool.
[03:39] <slavik> eck: not sure :P
[03:39] <Lazergunz> preaction: Do i just ctrl + alt + f1 to log back into gnome?
[03:39] <`nicola> thanks again preaction
[03:39] <omglazers> gyaresu: I was told that above walkthrough but he didnt have time to help me through it. He told me to do that if my chipset was a yukon
[03:40] <Jarhead756> can i browse the web from within terminal, i only want text based things
[03:40] <preaction> Lazergunz: no, you'd need to start GDM again: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, and then ctrl+alt+f7
[03:40] <keith_> ok then "I was a marine"
[03:40] <gyaresu> omglazers: If you want the 10sec easy solution just to get network connection on your desktop then you could throw a network card in.
[03:40] <Lazergunz> preaction: thanks a lot :)
[03:40] <keith_> stationed in hawaii
[03:40] <gyaresu> omglazers: Do you have one lying around?
[03:40] <omglazers> gyaresu: No I dont think I do
[03:40] <mheath> Jarhead756, Yes, there are several popular text based browsers, namely Lynx and elinks (also called just links or links2)
[03:40] <preaction> Lazergunz: if F7 doesn't work, try other F# keys, one of them will be X
[03:40] <omglazers> gyaresu: And I dont really think I have any money to buy one
[03:41] <Lazergunz> preaction: :P sure thing
[03:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: Med school student.. im broke ass poor which is why i'd really enjoy linux :(
[03:41] <Jarhead756> mheath: can i run those within terminal? i want something so i can do that within terminal?
[03:41] <preaction> Lazergunz: i'm fairly sure that 1-6 are terminals, and 7 is X, but it might b 8
[03:41] <mheath> keith_, MOS?
[03:41] <keith_> 0311
[03:41] <keith_> infantry
[03:41] <mheath> Jarhead756, Yes, both of those are text based.
[03:41] <Lazergunz> preaction: >.< i'll give it a try now.
[03:41] <gyaresu> omglazers: Alright. No probs. You should really just need to build and install the module but you will have trouble doing that without a network connection.
[03:41] <regecks> hlo
[03:42] <xerecks> we waiting
[03:42] <xerecks> hlol
[03:42] <xerecks> is dis internet help
[03:42] <mheath> keith_: I was 0311. Or training to do it at least. I was discharged from the Marine Corps for medical reasons. In the Navy now.
[03:42] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: is the desktop installed and running? (Is it sitting next to you?)
[03:42] <xerecks> hlo som1 is dis internet help??
[03:42] <Mortuis> If I'm connected to a windows computer with samba, how do I copy my /home directory to the windows computer?  I've tried using the put command but it doesn't seem to be working.
[03:42] <keith_> i am going to join the navy to
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: what kernel is it running?
[03:42] <omglazers> gyaresu: Yeaup. Sitting next to me. I'd talk to you on it, if I had internet on it
[03:42] <Jarhead756> keith_: no, im not, im only 15, but i am most likely going to join up after high school. why do you ask?
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: :)
[03:42] <omglazers> gyaresu: Kubuntu 6.10 edgy
[03:42] <xerecks> it says "update from internet explorer 4.0 to 6.0 clik her"
[03:42] <xerecks> wut i do
[03:42] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'uname -a'
[03:42] <keith_> i want to do the computers course in the navy
[03:42] <keith_> i am getting back in shape now
[03:43] <eck> Mortuis: if you have it mounted just copy it like a local file
[03:43] <preaction> Mortuis: i assume you have a share on the windows computer that you can write to?
[03:43] <xerecks> (regecks) I CANT JOIN UBUNTU
[03:43] <mheath> Heh. Yah. Some kid that watched "Jarhead" and wants to join the Corps. :P
[03:43] <keith_> to be a small computer specialist
[03:43] <xerecks> wut cn d probem be?
[03:43] <xerecks> lack of IQ?
[03:43] <Pelo> does anyojne here use  GDESKLETS ? I'm having a small problem where the desklets freeze and the system monitor shows python using all available cpu
[03:43] <regecks> WHY CANT I JOIN UBUNTU
[03:43] <Mortuis> preaction: yes, I'm connected to it with samba right now
[03:43] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:43] <Jarhead756> keith_: how is that? if i do join, i will have something to do with computers.
[03:43] <kidbuntu> Whats the problem with the X when I cant switch a user?
[03:43] <gasp> yay, it works
[03:43] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:43] <jamaur> hey all, a quick question: anyone know if I can capture VHS to DVD with an old voodoo 3 video card with a video capture device + USB?
[03:43] <xerecks> hi i hav just installed ubuntu and i need help with using it
[03:43] <xerecks> how do i open "start menu"
[03:43] <keith_> good for you jarhead
[03:43] <xerecks> and open "mspaint" ?
[03:43] <transgress_> Pelo: it's a bug in gdesklets  no good way to fix it unless you can program
[03:44] <gasp> it is unbelievable how ubuntu is simple
[03:44] <preaction> xerecks: you're trolling, please stop
[03:44] <xerecks> wtf?!?!?!?!
[03:44] <mheath> Jarhead756, Hate the be the one to break it to you, but there aren't very many computer jobs in the Marine Corps.
[03:44] <Jarhead756> mheath: nah, my dad was a marine, thats all i have heard, about how great the core is, so i think i may join.
[03:44] <Uriko04> xerecks stop you idiot
[03:44] <preaction> Mortuis: i usually just use nautilus
[03:44] <xerecks> dud i am fkn in deep shit here n u tel me troll
[03:44] <xerecks> dud wtf
[03:44] <gasp> oky, time to go back to bed
[03:44] <khaije> where can i find out about linux compatibility for new-ish laptops?
[03:44] <Uriko04> :o
[03:44] <omglazers> gyaresu: linux tower 2.6.17-10 generic #2 smp fri oct 13 18:45:53 utc 2006 i686 gnu/linux
[03:44] <Uriko04> irl tbh
[03:44] <Pelo> transgress,  thanks I just wanted to check if it was me or a known bug
[03:44] <gasp> thx for you help folks
[03:44] <frunk> xerecks, u r troll?@?! nomoresex4u
[03:44] <xerecks> my first time evr usin unbuntu
[03:44] <ryanakca> at the bottom of http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p4 . Those commands give these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8311/   . I was then told to change host from localhost to % in users table. How do I do that?
[03:44] <mheath> Jarhead756, And if you want to join the Marine Corps to work with computers, your probably not going to like the Corps nor really fit in. In my opinion.
[03:44] <bitbuck> Ok, I have a boot problem, the monitor goes out of range, I am using an NVIDIA card.. .how do you boot from the CD and boot to VESA mode?
[03:44] <Mortuis> preaction: Do you know how to open nautilus as root?  I am trying to back up my /home directory to the computer that has a cd burner
[03:44] <preaction> khaije: google for "ubuntu hardware compatibility"?
[03:44] <cables> xerecks, there is none. Now stop asking. To see your programs, go to the Applications menu.
[03:45] <preaction> Mortuis: open a terminal, sudo nautilus
[03:45] <Mortuis> thanks
[03:45] <keith_> i had a boot camp problem
[03:45] <Pelo> bitbuck,  live cd should work if not try the alternate cd wich is CLI
[03:45] <Jarhead756> mheath: i know that, so i am not sure, either that or the navy, navy has more computer based jobs, however, i would like to fly, so maybe the air force for me. i really have no clue about it, i have a while to go, but i really want to serve my country.
[03:45] <xerecks> A troll is this: http://www.timewarp-toys.com/troll.jpg
[03:45] <xerecks> I can gurantee you I am not this: http://www.timewarp-toys.com/troll.jpg
[03:45] <eck> !ops
[03:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:45] <cables> Mortuis, better to do alt-f2, gksudo nautilus
[03:45] <Hobbsee> xerecks: is that necessary?
[03:45] <xerecks> so please help someone
[03:45] <xerecks> dude
[03:45] <xerecks> i am asking help mate
[03:45] <xerecks> i just installed ubuntu
[03:45] <Jarhead756> mheath: most guys at school that want to join want to join "to kill". but i guess its more than that.
[03:45] <Mortuis> cables: too late, why would I do it that way?
[03:45] <Prophet> Anyone familiar with Hydra?  I keep encountering an error I could use some help with.
[03:46] <mheath> Jarhead756, Outstanding motivation. Your a bit naive, but your 15, so thats OK. Great to see someone your age so excited about serving their country.
[03:46] <bitbuck> Pelo. private me.
[03:46] <cables> Mortuis, it's supposed to be better to use gksudo for graphical apps.
[03:46] <Mortuis> cables: gotcha, I'll do that next time. thanks
[03:46] <Hobbsee> xerecks: you might want to see the topic.  and you arent going to be able to run most of your apps like MSpaint in linux
[03:46] <keith_> i was excited to until i got to bootcamp
[03:46] <xerecks> how i see topic :s ???
[03:46] <Jarhead756> mheath: its people that serve that kept us like we are, that is americans, so i don't see why someone wouldn't want to serve their country.
[03:46] <gyaresu> omglazers: I'm just checking some things to make sure you can do this without a network connection. Wait1.
[03:46] <superbenny> whats the diferance between kubuntu, ubuntu and xubuntu?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> xerecks: type /topic
[03:47] <cables> xerecks, Ubuntu is very different from Windows. You'll have to get used to a whole new way of doing things. There's no start menu, for instance.
[03:47] <mheath> Now if only I could get that motivated about my training :P
[03:47] <keith_> i cant remember bootcamp it was so traumatic
[03:47] <xerecks> thank you sir
[03:47] <preaction> superbenny: k = KDE, x = XFCE, u = Gnome
[03:47] <xerecks> cable how do i open IE 7 then
[03:47] <keith_> its like a blur
[03:47] <xerecks> TOPIC Not enough parameters what do i do sir
[03:47] <omglazers> gyaresu: Thank you very much :( If I had even $5, id get a card. Im so dirt poor. All my $$ goes into my tuition
[03:47] <superbenny> erm...explination?
[03:47] <cables> xerecks, firefox is the browser built into firefox. No IE7.
[03:47] <mikejanssen> mm
[03:47] <Jarhead756> keith_: what sort of thing do you do in the navy?
[03:47] <mikejanssen> i need to find more things to change with ubuntu
[03:47] <mikejanssen> = \
[03:47] <preaction> superbenny: it's the desktop system the distribution uses
[03:47] <xerecks> is firefox good
[03:47] <keith_> i havnt joined the navy yet
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | Jarhead756
[03:47] <ubotu> Jarhead756: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:47] <superbenny> oo riitee
[03:47] <xerecks> does it have anti-spyware and stuff
[03:47] <cables> mikejanssen, you could start with gconf
[03:47] <keith_> still working on that
[03:47] <mikejanssen> mm
[03:47] <mikejanssen> whats that
[03:47] <mikejanssen> = X
[03:48] <superbenny> whats the diferance between those though?
[03:48] <cables> xerecks, linux doesn't get spyware. Neither does firefox. Now I think you're trolling.
[03:48] <eck> superbenny: look them up on wikipedia
[03:48] <superbenny> ok
[03:48] <xerecks> dude
[03:48] <Jarhead756> Hobbsee: gotcha.
[03:48] <keith_> i was in the marine corps 4 years
[03:48] <xerecks> I AM SORRY FOR NOT BEING A LINUX EXPERT
[03:48] <xerecks> gee :(
[03:48] <xerecks> meany..
[03:48] <preaction> superbenny: KDE is big on the flashiness, and sometimes better on the UI. gnome is supposed to be more accessible, and xfce is for slow comps or comps that need higher performance (or less GUI, but not none)
[03:48] <keith_> now i am getting stuff ready to go in the navy
[03:48] <gyaresu> omglazers: You can always burn packages you need onto disk from your laptop.
[03:48] <eck> bezibaerchen: they are just different guis
[03:48] <eck> err, that is to superbenny
[03:48] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | keith_
[03:48] <ubotu> keith_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:48] <Joeeigel> K3nto
[03:48] <cables> xerecks, you know how to use IRC, but you don't know that you can't run IE7 on linux? Come on, how stupid do you think we are?
[03:48] <Jarhead756> so which one of these text based browers should i try?
[03:48] <xerecks> dude
[03:48] <omglazers> gyaresu: Yea. I can. Its my roomates laptop and its a mac; just putting that out there for any reason it might hurt
[03:48] <mheath> Hobbsee, Did they change the policy? It's been months since I've been in here, but last time I thought the official policy was that some offtopic stuff was OK as long as it wasn't interfering with other conversation.
[03:48] <kidbuntu> Whats the problem with the X when I cant switch a user? There's a problem starting X server
[03:48] <preaction> xerecks: if you are that new, you should read tutorials on the internet. this is not a place for hand-holding
[03:48] <xerecks> wtf is irc?
[03:49] <xerecks> i use mirc
[03:49] <Jarhead756> keith_: oh, gotcha. thats cool.
[03:49] <xerecks> whats irc??? another client?
[03:49] <slavik> cables: there are things like mirc ;-)
[03:49] <slavik> rofl!!!
[03:49] <mikejanssen> lol
[03:49] <keith_> the off topic police got me
[03:49] <mikejanssen> mIRC
[03:49] <preaction> xerecks: you're using mirc on linux? nice
[03:49] <xerecks> dude
[03:49] <xerecks> you dont know me i am a gangsta
[03:49] <preaction> xerecks: i like using "telnet" myself, it has a great interface
[03:49] <xerecks> nothing is impossible for me
[03:49] <Pelo> !ops | xerecks
[03:49] <nalioth> xerecks: please be on topic
[03:49] <ubotu> xerecks: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:49] <xerecks> i invented telnet
[03:49] <xerecks> so
[03:49] <Hobbsee> mheath: there are 970 people in this channel.  the policy of all offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic has been in there for a while, but hastn really been policed (just due to number of people)
[03:49] <preaction> xerecks: except, obviously, running IE7 on linux. some gangsta
[03:49] <xerecks> ok sorry let's be on topic
[03:49] <xerecks> who created ubuntu
[03:49] <linxeh> slavik: there is nothing like mIRC, unfortunately :(
[03:50] <elkbuntu> Pelo, there's two of us here, hobbsee is opped currently
[03:50] <slavik> linxeh: or fortunately? :)
[03:50] <nalioth> elkbuntu: only two?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> gah, some people just annoy me.
[03:50] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'sudo modprobe skge'
[03:50] <mheath> Hobbsee, Ah, gotcha. Thanks.
[03:50] <linxeh> slavik: unfortunately in my case - I used to IRC like this - http://www.jamesfry.com/irc.png
[03:50] <elkbuntu> nalioth, qell i hadnt seen you
[03:50] <preaction> linxeh: what about xchat? irssi is fun sometimes
[03:50] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'dmesg'
[03:50] <firefly2442> Are there any audio programs that sync well with iPods? with read/write support?
[03:50] <omglazers> gyaresu: doing it
[03:50] <Pelo> later folks
[03:50] <elkbuntu> s/qell/well/
[03:50] <keith_> sudo aptitude install moo
[03:50] <Hobbsee> mheath: just due to sheer number - following conversations is hard :P
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> firefly2442, amarok
[03:50] <mikejanssen> theres a new prog out
[03:50] <eck> firefly2442: gtkpod is the only app that i would really trust to write to my ipod
[03:50] <mikejanssen> works for linux
[03:50] <mikejanssen> Songbird
[03:50] <eck> firefly2442: a bunch of them can read from ipods
[03:50] <mikejanssen> i recommend highly
[03:50] <cables> Hobbsee, can you tell me the policy on !ops use? One time when there were multiple trolls, I used it 2 or 3 times in 10 minutes, and was kicked.
[03:50] <firefly2442> thanks
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> i use amarok...
[03:50] <mikejanssen> made by Mozilla folks
[03:51] <slavik> linxeh: holy crap, dude
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> works very well for my shuffle...
[03:51] <Jarhead756> where can i find one of these text based browsers that i can run in terminal?
[03:51] <lordkeiden> where can i get a look at, or tell the system to make, log files to help me track what is causing my hard lockups?
[03:51] <eck> firefly2442: banshee has some write support, but it is pretty buggy
[03:51] <slavik> linxeh: gaim gives me tabs :D
[03:51] <Hobbsee> cables: if there are ops around, they'll see it the first time.
[03:51] <cables> mikejanssen, i don't think it's made by mozilla, just based on it.
[03:51] <linxeh> slavik: you should see it now I use freenode too :)
[03:51] <omglazers> gyaresu: Did both, and I got a huge string of text about unknown keys pressed and released and keycodes or something :(
[03:51] <mikejanssen> songbirdnest.com
[03:51] <D7x> how do I change the root directory for apache2?
[03:51] <mikejanssen> no
[03:51] <linxeh> slavik: I hate tabs
[03:51] <cables> Hobbsee, okay.
[03:51] <mikejanssen> i think they are contributing to it
[03:51] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'lspci'
[03:51] <mheath> Jarhead756, try lynx or elinks (also called links or links2).
[03:51] <Hobbsee> cables: obviously, if they've responded to that, then calling them again for the next user is fine.  if they dont repsond the first time, they're probably nto there.
[03:51] <cables> mikejanssen, ok, but it's not a mozilla project, i don't think...
[03:51] <mheath> Jarhead756, I believe one or more of those comes with a basic ubuntu install
[03:51] <mikejanssen> = X
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> D7x, you have to edit the /etc/apache2/apache.conf file...
[03:51] <linxeh> slavik: I'm on xchat now anyway, I'm getting used to tabs, but it is a bit odd
[03:51] <cables> Hobbsee, thanks for helping me
[03:51] <slavik> linxeh: any experience with encoding?
[03:51] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done. What info you need?
[03:51] <Hobbsee> cables: and calling !ops for the hell of it is discouraged, because it's distracting, yet another highlight, etc.
[03:51] <mikejanssen> oh shh and just dl it
[03:52] <Hobbsee> cables: no problem :)
[03:52] <eck> \quit leaving work
[03:52] <linxeh> slavik: as in crypto? or in audio coding ?
[03:52] <cables> Hobbsee, I'm not the !ops for the hell of it kinda person :)
[03:52] <Jarhead756> mheath: how would i run it? something like "lynx www.google.com"
[03:52] <Hobbsee> cables: oh good.  some are.
[03:52] <mheath> Jarhead756, yep.
[03:52] <gyaresu> omglazers: Does it recognize the chip yet?
[03:52] <slavik> linxeh: video/audio, I am looking around for nice GUIs for mencoder
[03:52] <linxeh> slavik: or text encoding? eg unicode/ etc
[03:52] <D7x> nomasteryoda, yes, but where is the root directory setting?
[03:52] <omglazers> omglazers: Nope. Still an unknown device
[03:52] <mheath> Jarhead756, or just "lynx" and use the menus to go to a new address.
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> D7x, i just setup ubuntu server... /var/www
[03:52] <Jarhead756> mheath: it doesn't seem lynx is installed.
[03:53] <linxeh> slavik: no idea sorry - not my cup of tea (I'm more into NLP / text processing, semantic web/networks/understanding, and music)
[03:53] <mheath> Jarhead756, try "links" or"links2" or "elinks".
[03:53] <slavik> linxeh: k
[03:53] <Lazergunz> Trying to install the Nvidia drivers still >.<, done everything so far apart from it sais ' No precompiled Kernal Inteface ' and it cant find a suitable. Any ideas?
[03:53] <linxeh> slavik: I probably should get into that too though :)
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> linxeh, ampache for music...
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> =D
[03:53] <mheath> Jarhead756, I'm not using Ubuntu at the moment and I can
[03:53] <Jarhead756> mheath: sudo apt-get install lynx works for me!
[03:53] <mikejanssen> one thing i hate about my ipod...when i use it on windows...then use it on linux...makes me delete/rebuild list
[03:53] <nexact_> hello all, does anyone know if there's an application that permit to recover erased files on a ntfs partition ?
[03:53] <slavik> linxeh: one problem I have so far is that there is no avisynth on linux and hence no YATTA
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> "for the love of music" actually
[03:53] <mikejanssen> i wish it would just recognize its the same computer
[03:53] <mheath> Jarhead756, *and I can't remember which name Ubuntu uses
[03:54] <Jarhead756> mheath: here it is, its working fine, thanks
[03:54] <Plecebo> I'm having trouble with GRUB, it is not counting down to the default boot entry, anyon
[03:54] <D7x> nomasteryoda: yes, but I don't see any place in the conf file pointing to that
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> D7x, i just setup ampache last weekend... and Ubuntu server ...
[03:54] <Plecebo> anyone heard of that?
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> hmmm
[03:54] <phixnay> why doesn't flac work on amarok?
[03:54] <redDEAD> how do i find out how much of my system ram is being used for my integrated video card on my laptop?
[03:54] <linxeh> nomasteryoda: no, as in making (playing / writing) it - I have a pretty nice home studio, and play jazz piano/keyboards/drums semi professionally
[03:54] <foutrelis> hey :) The issue I am facing is this. While playing a song in Rythmbox, the sound sounds really awful (distorted). Like the bass are set too high or something. This happens to some songs, not all. Where to look to fix this problem?
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> cool
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> very cool
[03:55] <linxeh> nomasteryoda: for the network audio stuff I use firefly / mt-daapd and itunes like stuff :p
[03:55] <Lazergunz> eck: Any ideas about these nvidia drivers :) ? ' No precompiled kernal interface '
[03:55] <linxeh> Lazergunz: check /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common etc
[03:55] <D7x> I suppose maybe I should just add my user to the group controlling /var/www
[03:55] <linxeh> Lazergunz: make sure "nv" doesnt appear in the list of modules
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> linxeh, i do a site for a guy who produces mostly bluegrass music groups here in Middle GA... quite fun
[03:56] <linxeh> Lazergunz: and make sure you have nvidia-glx etc installed
[03:56] <linxeh> nomasteryoda: cool - I do a lot of classical recording, mainly of english pipe organs, but also of bands and orchestras from time to time (digital mixer / hardware recorder for live, but going to use Ardour2 for editing up the latest recordings)
[03:57] <bugnthecode> I just installed edgy on my tc4400 tablet pc at work, and had everything working just right. I shut the machine down and came home and now the stylus isn't working. What has changed is that at work I had it in a dock which had a monitor, a mouse, and a keyboard connected to it. Any ideas why this would just stop working?
[03:57] <gyaresu> omglazers: Hey. I found this article http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4279
[03:58] <omglazers> gyaresu: Wow awesome
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> cool... another friend does recording, but uses a raw digital recorder... can do like 9 hours .. he hooks into the main board at these concerts... but uses sony product to sync/edit
[03:58] <omglazers> gyaresu: What should I do? third post down?
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> he wants to use ubuntu and audacity, etc
[03:59] <Jarhead756> is there some way i can connect to, for example, aim, from within terminal?
[03:59] <phixnay> audacity is awesome!
[03:59] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i like audacity too
[03:59] <foutrelis> ok if I cannot fix this issue with Rythmbox, which media player do you suggest? :)
[03:59] <gyaresu> omglazers: I've found the driver package at the marvell site http://marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?dId=153&pId=36
[03:59] <Jarhead756> foutrelis: what are you trying to do?
[04:00] <Isarl> is anybody bored or generous enough to help me figure out how to get my wireless card working in Ubuntu?  ^^;
[04:00] <redDEAD> how do i find out how much of my system ram is being used for my integrated video card on my laptop?
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> D7x, ServerRoot "/etc/apache2" quoted from my apache.conf file...
[04:00] <foutrelis> Jarhead756: While playing a song in Rythmbox, the sound sounds really awful (distorted). Like the bass are set too high or something. This happens to some songs, not all.
[04:00] <phixnay> foutrelis: audacious works well for me, for general playback of music
[04:00] <foutrelis> phixnay: noted. thanks
[04:00] <TheVault> What should I install? I am fooling around with the LIVE CD and I wanna know what should I install and get fimilar with
[04:00] <omglazers> gyaresu: Did I ever tell you, that I love you?
[04:01] <lufi1> aww
[04:01] <Jarhead756> foutrelis: i have no clue, i use amarok, i really like amarok, its better than itunes, so i don't know what to say, what format are the songs in?
[04:01] <omglazers> gyaresu: Because if this works im gonna buy you a fking porche
[04:01] <phixnay> TheVault: i'd get build-essential, linux-headers, and networkmanager for a start
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> D7x, here it is... look into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[04:02] <foutrelis> Jarhead756: mp3. hmmm.. I ll trying playing them back in that Movie player (totem I think) to see if the problem is about Rythmbox or not.. hmm
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> /var/www is right there...
[04:02] <TheVault> Good idea phixnay....but I mean software in general
[04:02] <phixnay> Jarhead756: does flac work for you in amarok? I installed amarok and it wouldn't play flac, though all my other players would
[04:02] <TheVault> For some reason, I'm in this big mood of learning ubuntu all of a sudden
[04:02] <Jarhead756> foutrelis: good idea. however, i think both of those use gstreamer as their base.
[04:02] <lufi1> phixnay: you'll need libxine-extracodecs for flac
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> Jarhead756, did you install the libmad?
[04:02] <Jarhead756> phixnay: flac? im not familar with that. is that aac?
[04:03] <phixnay> lufi1: thanks, I'll try
[04:03] <lufi1> flac is lossless
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> oh no.. foutrelis
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[04:03] <phixnay> Jarhead756: Free Lossles Audio Codec
[04:03] <Isarl> Jarhead756: flac is its own lossless codec
[04:03] <Jarhead756> nomasteryoda: i use amarok with xine
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:03] <TheVault> is Frostwire hard to install? if not then I'm going to teach myself how(linux noob that I am lol)
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> me too
[04:03] <foutrelis> Jarhead756: hmmm!!! the mp3 sounds great in totem! wow :P
[04:03] <cables> !frostwire | TheDebugger
[04:03] <ubotu> TheDebugger: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:03] <cables> !frostwire | TheVault
[04:03] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me how to make my refresh rate stop going back to 45 hz (interlaced)?
[04:03] <ubotu> TheVault: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:04] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i have never tried to play those, what version of amarok you using?
[04:04] <TheVault> Frostwire is basicly Limewire but open source?
[04:04] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me how to make my refresh rate stop going back to 45 hz (interlaced)?
[04:04] <cables> TheVault, yep
[04:04] <TheVault> SWEET
[04:04] <cables> !repeat | tunganet
[04:04] <ubotu> tunganet: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:04] <TheVault> What else should I install?
[04:04] <Jarhead756> TheVault: i use gtk gnutella, i like it a lot, and you can install it from add/remove.
[04:05] <TheVault> alrighty Jarhead756
[04:05] <phixnay> Jarhead756: the latest one in synaptic. I read on the amarok page that flac was broken in the lastest build, so I guess I'll just wait for the fix to come
[04:05] <Traveler8> Hello
[04:05] <TheVault> whats a good Mp3 player program?
[04:05] <omglazers> gyaresu: Gimme a second my idiot roomie has no burning soft on his mac im going to put one on and put the driver on the linux so maybe you can help me from there when im done :)
[04:05] <phixnay> TheVault: you can get "bum" which lets you mess around with stuff that loads on boot
[04:05] <lufi1> TheVault: everyone loves amarok
[04:05] <Isarl> Hmmm....
[04:06] <TheVault> amarok, is that in the Add/Remove in the Applications?
[04:06] <blanky> !openbox
[04:06] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[04:06] <gyaresu> omglazers: No problem. USB flash disk would be helpfull.
[04:06] <Jarhead756> phixnay: im not sure, do the files play in other programs?
[04:06] <cables> TheVault, only prob with Amarok is that it has like 112 mb of KDE deps if you don't already have kde
[04:06] <lufi1> TheVault: i dunno, sudo apt-get install amarok
[04:06] <omglazers> gyaresu: DOH
[04:06] <lufi1> cables: yeah, but it's worth it imo
[04:06] <Plecebo> anyone have an idea why grub would NOT be counting down, it just sits at 10 seconds... menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8325/
[04:06] <cables> lufi1, yep :)
[04:06] <omglazers> gyaresu: I am made of epic fail :(
[04:06] <TheVault> well I don't wanna download huge files so I rather not, besides I am on Ubuntu anyway
[04:06] <lufi1> TheVault: you might like banshee
[04:06] <Jarhead756> cables: and after all the deps, some features don't work right, what about exaile, isn't it supposed to be really good too?
[04:07] <Isarl> I'm having problems with my Intel 3945 wireless card.  When trying to install the driver, I get an error message involving the IEEE80211 subsystem and something about "out of tree"... can anybody help, please?
[04:07] <phixnay> Jarhead756: yeah they do. since the people on the amarok website said it's a bug, there's probably nothing to do about it
[04:07] <Jarhead756> phixnay: well, they may fix it soon, you could try converting the files.
[04:07] <TheVault> I'll try that. Besides doing a full update, how do I just update Firefox to 2.0.2?
[04:07] <cables> TheVault, it will update itself.
[04:07] <blanky> http://icculus.org/openbox/screenshots.php
[04:08] <lufi1> TheVault: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:08] <cables> TheVault, Ubuntu updates all the apps you have installed, automatically.
[04:08] <phixnay> Jarhead756: lol, I like my flac files, I'll just use amarok for mp3s I have for the time being
[04:08] <TraceGreen> hello, when i try to use pptpconfig to build my vpn, everything seems ok, but if i run pon ***, I can just ping vpn server. why?
[04:08] <cables> TheVault, lufi1 's command will do it right away, but ubuntu will pop up a notification whenever there are software updates.
[04:08] <craig> i need help, i installed the alternate install...I can't boot after installation...i just get the kubuntu screen and it freezes...its a graphic driver problem...my card doesn't like the generic one...what command line options can i give so that it i can get into kubuntu
[04:08] <pingping> how do i specify a port to ping with the ping command?
[04:08] <Jarhead756> how can i update firefox to 2.0.2? i downloaded the tar.gz and extracted it, but i want to update the main firefox. for it to automatically update, it has to be in the repos, right? in my repos 1.5 something is the latest (dapper).
[04:09] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK, I got it onto the desktop and opened it.. im at the unzipping utility I believe.. what should I do now?
[04:09] <omglazers> gyaresu: I never knew how to install stuff on nux :(
[04:09] <lufi1> Jarhead756: you don't have to do anything outside of ubuntu. just run sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal
[04:09] <bugnthecode> how would I be able to determine what port a device is connected to?
[04:09] <lufi1> Jarhead756: oh, whoops
[04:09] <lufi1> Jarhead756: didn't read your whole message.
[04:09] <Jarhead756> lufi1: i don't think i can can i?
[04:09] <EkToBoT> so many questions
[04:10] <lufi1> Jarhead756: yeah, you can. extract it and move it to /opt or someplace like that
[04:10] <lufi1> Jarhead756: then run /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:10] <Jarhead756> oh, i am using 2.0.2 right now, i just wanted the one that was already installed on here to be updated, something to do with being "clean" i guess.
[04:10] <lufi1> Jarhead756: actually, there may be a backport
[04:10] <lufi1> let me check
[04:10] <gyaresu> omglazers: open up a terminal and change into the drivers directory (cool with that?).
[04:10] <EkToBoT> firefox updates automaticaly anyways....
[04:10] <pingping> how do i specify a port to ping with the ping command?
[04:11] <Jarhead756> lufi1: alright.
[04:11] <omglazers> gyaresu: Alright lemme get 'em out and cd there
[04:11] <lufi1> Jarhead756: oh, ok. then don't worry about it
[04:11] <meezyfuh> if i install java do i need to restart before it will work in firefox?
[04:11] <Jarhead756> lufi1: i guess i will wait for feisty, it should be updated there shouldn't it
[04:11] <EkToBoT> no
[04:11] <lufi1> Jarhead756: yes
[04:11] <cables> meezyfuh, you should restart firefox. Not the whole computer.
[04:12] <lufi1> Jarhead756: the thing with dapper is you're going to be receiving support for 5 years but you'll be using o.l.d. software :P
[04:12] <EkToBoT> yes i agree
[04:12] <meezyfuh> cables: i don't think it worked. i am still seeing 'click here to install plugin'
[04:12] <Jarhead756> lufi1: LTS, right? isn't there supposed to be a newer LTS coming out soon?
[04:12] <lufi1> Jarhead756: have no idea
[04:12] <phixnay> Jarhead756: one comes out every 18months
[04:12] <EkToBoT> can anyone help about using usb memory cards between ubuntu and windows???
[04:12] <Jarhead756> lufi1: i heard feisty was planned to be, but then i later heard it isn't going to be, so who knows.
[04:12] <EkToBoT> it seems to go abit strange
[04:13] <omglazers> gyaresu: I wont lie to you. I have no clue how to change directories in linux. CD apparently is not the same command lol
[04:13] <phixnay> Jarhead756: so another year or so I think
[04:13] <preaction> EkToBoT: you need to make sure ubuntu formats the USB card in FAT32
[04:13] <EkToBoT> cd..
[04:13] <Jarhead756> omglazers: cd is the command
[04:13] <cables> omglazers, it is cd.
[04:13] <mikejanssen> heh
[04:13] <Jarhead756> omglazers: use something like cd /home/YOUR NAME/Desktop
[04:13] <EkToBoT> is one fullstop . one directory and .. is 2?
[04:13] <gyaresu> omglazers: no problem. All commands are case sensetive.
[04:13] <omglazers> ok, well, it wont let me do that jar
[04:14] <preaction> EkToBoT: . is the current directory. .. is the parent directory
[04:14] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:14] <EkToBoT> thanks :)
[04:14] <EkToBoT> any ideas onthe usb??
[04:14] <Jarhead756> omglazers: try this. cd /home
[04:14] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:14] <EkToBoT> yeah that is just specifying a directory
[04:14] <omglazers> Jarhead756: works. DOESNT work when I try to go to /desktop
[04:14] <preaction> EkToBoT: above ^, is the USB drive formatted in Fat32?
[04:14] <gyaresu> omglazers: You've got the terminal open right. It will have opened up to your home directory. Did you save the file to your Desktop?
[04:14] <Jarhead756> omglazers: it has to be Desktop, it is case sensitive
[04:14] <omglazers> gyaresu: I did. I just cant CD into desktop
[04:14] <lufi1> omglazers: desktop is ~/Desktop
[04:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: Case sensetive...
[04:15] <omglazers> No no
[04:15] <EkToBoT> i have no idea about what format it is
[04:15] <omglazers> It says 'no such file or dir'
[04:15] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:15] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:15] <koabara> is there any update for kernel-2.6.15-k7? i havent seen any k7 optimised kernel recently
[04:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'ls -l'
[04:15] <omglazers> OHHH
[04:15] <preaction> EkToBoT: it has to be FAT32
[04:15] <omglazers> I had to do a ~
[04:15] <Jarhead756> use cd /home, then you can use "ls" to to see the folders and files in that dir] 
[04:15] <preaction> !repeat > koabara
[04:15] <lufi1> koabara: asking once is sufficient. apparently no one knows
[04:15] <omglazers> gyaresu: Sorry it was ~/desktop
[04:15] <EkToBoT> i originaly used it in windows but i used it to transsfre some files from ubuntu
[04:15] <meezyfuh> cables: can i pm?
[04:15] <tannerld> does anyone know how to fix http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334828689#post1334828689
[04:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: cool. So 'cd destop'
[04:15] <cables> meezyfuh, go ahead
[04:16] <cables> gyaresu, nope. cd ~/Desktop
[04:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Ok im in the folder where I put the drivers
[04:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: on the desktop I mean
[04:16] <preaction> EkToBoT: Open Settings > Administration > Disks (or whatever), you'll probably find it there
[04:16] <lufi1> gyaresu: ~ is a variable for your home directory, fyi
[04:16] <Jarhead756> omglazers: so you have it working now?
[04:16] <doff> how can I change maximum send packet size(mtu?)?
[04:16] <EkToBoT> k i will check how do i pm?
[04:16] <Jarhead756> cables: so you can use ~/ to skip all of the paths sometimes?
[04:16] <preaction> EkToBoT: why would you want to pm?
[04:17] <lufi1> doff: doesn't your modem have that configurability?
[04:17] <omglazers> Jarhead756: Yup.
[04:17] <gyaresu> lufi1: I have a black belt in nix but thanks.
[04:17] <preaction> Jarhead756: when the start of the path is /home/$USER
[04:17] <cables> Jarhead756, ~ = your home folder
[04:17] <EkToBoT> no lol like you did
[04:17] <Asimo> hello all, can someone help me please. i'm trying to run Ubuntu and after the loading bar finishes my monitor goes off? but when i did it with virtual machine it worked?
[04:17] <lufi1> gyaresu: ah, well i didn't know :P
[04:17] <EkToBoT> to keep track
[04:17] <Jarhead756> cables: oh, thats cool. i can use that all the time.
[04:17] <preaction> EkToBoT: that isn't a pm, that's just me putting your name in front
[04:17] <cables> Jarhead756, . = current folder, .. = parent folder, ~ = home folder
[04:17] <xreyye> I'm having a problem with not being able to set my monitor to max refresh rate. Running ati with fglrx drivers. Anyone know a solution?
[04:17] <preaction> EkToBoT: try typing "prea" then hitting the "tab" key
[04:17] <gyaresu> omglazers: ignore everyone else please :) too much help here atm.
[04:17] <omglazers> gyaresu: Sorry about all of that. Im in the folder, sorry. :(
[04:17] <omglazers> gyaresu: Can do. Sorry.
[04:17] <phixnay> Asimo: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[04:17] <wwallace_lap> !xorg
[04:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <EkToBoT> preaction:
[04:17] <gyaresu> omglazers: Absolutely no problem.
[04:18] <doff> lufi1, don't know) I've got a vpn (pptp) tunnel. I do have to change it's config files?
[04:18] <Jarhead756> omglazers: also, try this, use tab to finish the paths. for example, instead of typing /home, type /h then hit tab, and it will finish it for you
[04:18] <EkToBoT> preaction: erm hello
[04:18] <gyaresu> omglazers: So now 'vi install.sh
[04:18] <mikejanssen> why do programs just up and exit themselves in ubuntu?
[04:18] <lufi1> doff: well, for me, my modem has a web-based configure page which allows you to set specifics like mtu and such
[04:18] <EkToBoT> lol doesnt make a difference on my screen
[04:18] <omglazers> Jarhead756: knew that
[04:18] <preaction> EkToBoT: just realize, everyone else can still see you talk, which is good because they can help if i happen to tell you something wrong
[04:18] <omglazers> gyaresu: ok doing it now
[04:18] <mikejanssen> like...my songbird just quit on me
[04:18] <Jarhead756> omglazers: ok
[04:18] <phixnay> Asimo: you can use defaults for most tings but when you get to video driver, choose "vesa" and hopefully that will solve your problems
[04:18] <lufi1> mikejanssen: that would probably be a crash
[04:18] <doff> lufi1, no) ethernet card not modem
[04:18] <EkToBoT> preaction: thats kool
[04:18] <Jarhead756> mikejanssen: you are probably talking about when you try to start something in terminal, and it doesn't work so well.
[04:19] <preaction> mikejanssen: there are multiple reasons, the main one being Segmentation Fault
[04:19] <lufi1> doff: ah, i don't know then
[04:19] <mikejanssen> nah
[04:19] <tbodine> Can anyone tell me how to remove the icons from my minimized windows in my window list?
[04:19] <mikejanssen> sometimes gaim does it
[04:19] <omglazers> gyaresu: Brought it up
[04:19] <mikejanssen> now songbird just did it
[04:19] <doff> btw does anybody know how to restart pptp vpn tunnel connection?
[04:19] <preaction> mikejanssen: if you run the program from a terminal, you might get some output on the reason it closed
[04:19] <gyaresu> omglazers: vi is _the_ cli text editor to learn because it's on every system. Later have a look at 'vimtutor'.
[04:19] <omglazers> gyaresu: So noted
[04:19] <EkToBoT> preaction: thanks for the help
[04:19] <gyaresu> omglazers: Ok. You see the very first line "#!/bin/sh"
[04:19] <preaction> omglazers: otherwise "nano" is an easy one, just not as ubiquitous
[04:19] <ahlalo_elyon> What am I supposed to do when, in KDE's User Management program, clicking on "Administrator Mode" does NOT ask for my password (nor does it allow me to make changes)??
[04:20] <omglazers> gyaresu: I do
[04:20] <ahlalo_elyon> I asked in #kubuntu, but no one seems to know.
[04:20] <phixnay> gyaresu: I've been wanting to ask this a long time, what's the major difference between nano and vim?
[04:20] <preaction> phixnay: nano is simple and stupid, vim is God's Own Editor
[04:20] <riotkittie> vim is evil. nano is not.
[04:20] <phixnay> lol I love you people
[04:20] <Bogaurd> hi.. I'm trying to setup my xbindkeys to work with key combinations - I know how to map single keys/buttons, but I want to have have CTRL + ALT + P run a specific command - anybody know how i'd note that in the .xbindkeysrc file?
[04:20] <gyaresu> omglazers: just for now (cause it's easier to explain, use the cursor keys to move over the cursor over the 's'
[04:20] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done
[04:21] <kitche> phixnay: nano is like notepad pretty much
[04:21] <preaction> a lot like the old DOS program "edit"
[04:21] <bulmer> Bogaurd: go man loadkeys
[04:21] <preaction> though so is emacs
[04:21] <phixnay> what does vim do that's so powerful then? I thought a text editor was a text editor
[04:21] <professor> when I try to edit files through the gui, it tells me I dont have permission to do so, how do I change that without going into terminal
[04:22] <riotkittie> alt f2 gksu gedit file
[04:22] <gyaresu> omglazers: hit the letter 'i' on the keyboard and you will be placed in 'interactive' mode. Then just hit the letters 'b' then 'a'. That will make the line read "#!/bin/bash".
[04:22] <riotkittie> alt + f2
[04:22] <doff> and one more question what differs are there between distributions? for ex 6.06 and 6.10? is 6.10? can I upgrade from 6.06 lts to other distributive?
[04:22] <Jarhead756> professor: i don't think you can do that, but there is some script you can add into nautilus to allow you to right click and click sudo open
[04:22] <professor> does anyone know
[04:22] <Jarhead756> professor: I THINK.
[04:22] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done
[04:22] <doff> *is 6.10 better
[04:22] <professor> ok
[04:23] <gyaresu> omglazers: That will make the script run in the 'bash' shell rather than the 'sh' shell. (See 'man bash' for a head trip of command line goodness)
[04:23] <riotkittie> 6.10 and 6.06 are versions of a distribution, not distros themselves </anal retentive>
[04:23] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i see what you mean, one person will tell you 1 is the best, another person will tell you 2 is the best (you see the comparison)
[04:23] <professor> ok another question that has been haunting me
[04:23] <Jarhead756> professor: ?
[04:23] <professor> I cant get wine to work, I just figured out that the source packets that you download from
[04:23] <At0mic_P1> Gah what happened to the old internet where you could actually download a song with no problems?
[04:24] <colbert> Hi I am trying to sync my Treo 650 Palm device with Ubuntu, and when I press the hotsync button using gnome-pilot, it keeps crashing.. can someone help please ??
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to install LILO from the alternate install CD?
[04:24] <preaction> phixnay: vim has (a short list), syntax highlighting, auto-indent, spell check, scripting language, the ability to delete until wherever, the ability to mix commands for motion (like move one line, or move until the next K) with commands for editing (like delete)
[04:24] <phixnay> Jarhead756: yeah, and both have good reasons for why they think so
[04:24] <preaction> phixnay: but seriously, vim v. emacs is what we programmers call a "Holy War"
[04:24] <professor> the packet manager is not the latest, or maybe Im doing something wrong, well anyways I installed it through terminal
[04:24] <cables> professor, package manager?
[04:24] <gyaresu> omglazers: Now if you hit the 'esc' key you will be back to 'normal'(not the right name) mode and now if you type :wq it will 'write and quit' (the colon lets you type in _lots_ of different commands for vim.
[04:24] <professor> I get an error 6006
[04:24] <preaction> phixnay: /msg fajita start a holy war <- to see a few others
[04:24] <professor> and I have tried to uninstall it (wine)
[04:25] <Evil_`> How do I install stuff with wine?
[04:25] <Jarhead756> phixnay: "People forcing their opinion on others doesn't bother me one bit, what bothers me is when someone forces a wrong opinion on someone else"-me
[04:25] <professor> no I get it once wine is running trying to open
[04:25] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: Double click the install.exe
[04:25] <phixnay> preaction: will do
[04:25] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, does that mean, with wine...it's possible for viruses?
[04:25] <professor> any tips anyone
[04:25] <riotkittie> ok. on to my crisis of the moment. i am stuck in x and it makes me a sad panda.  popped my wireless card in and my TTYs are black screens with single blinking cursors. whats a girl gotta do to fix this? :P
[04:26] <omglazers> gyaresu: Done'ed
[04:26] <K3nto> could somebody tell me if linux would be good at recovering broken ipods?
[04:26] <preaction> riotkittie: um... if you have no GUI, you're not in X
[04:26] <lufi1> riotkittie: someone should take care of those TTYs
[04:26] <phixnay> Jarhead756: what I don't like is when someone is giving you line by line instructions, and then you find out you've hosed your computer because he didn't tell you you were messing with the system
[04:26] <Jarhead756> how would i go about sycing thunderbird, if possible, if ont, evolution with my ipod (im talking contacts
[04:26] <preaction> K3nto: what do you mean by broken?
[04:26] <professor> how do I run a system scan to see if anything is broken(software)
[04:26] <gyaresu> omglazers: If all that goes well you should be back at the command prompt and can now run that 'shell script' by 'sudo ./install'
[04:26] <Jarhead756> K3nto: what do you mean broken?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: Yes, but they can only mess with files in your home folder, and you can set wine up so they basically can't do anything not having to due with the fake C: drive you make
[04:26] <riotkittie> preaction:  uhm. if i had no GUI, i'd have not said i was stuck in X. kthx.
[04:27] <omglazers> gyaresu: Will do it now. Whats bash versus sh ?
[04:27] <K3nto> like it says to format with itunes, and sometimes it changes to black and white pictures of "do not disconnect"
[04:27] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, how?
[04:27] <professor> how do I run a system scan to see if anything is broken(software)
[04:27] <preaction> Jarhead756: i don't know what iPods can be synced beyond music
[04:27] <preaction> riotkittie: seems like login can't run, does "ps aux" show the other ttys?
[04:27] <Jarhead756> K3nto: i don't understand iPods, they are confusing, I LOVE MINE. but, why can't they be like those cheap 50 dollars ones where you can drag a few mp3's into the root folders?
[04:28] <professor> how do I run a system scan to see if anything is broken(software)
[04:28] <gyaresu> omglazers: Just different shells. bash is more comprehensive and sh is more basic but therefore much faster. (scripts don't need TAB completion and other cool things that humans do :)
[04:28] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: I don't actually know, I just know it's possible, try #winehq for info on wine
[04:28] <Evil_`> eh, i'll just uninstall it
[04:28] <omglazers> gyaresu: It keeps failing :(
[04:28] <riotkittie> preaction:  nope
[04:28] <professor> there is a way to put linux on your ipod
[04:28] <Evil_`> actually, I think i'll try to find out how
[04:28] <professor>  its pretty cool
[04:28] <omglazers> gyaresu: I run it and once I do the options it just ends with 'installlation of sk98lin driver module failed'
[04:28] <preaction> riotkittie: anything changed in your init since last it worked?
[04:29] <K3nto> Jarhead756: i know. this is my last ipod. im thinking about swithing to Zune when it comes out in canada
[04:29] <Jarhead756> professor: yes there is, also that rock box thing too, but aren't both supposed to greatly reduce battery life?
[04:29] <gyaresu> omglazers: are you using sudo?
[04:29] <phixnay> preaction: fajita's not on, I'll have to wait for later. is gnome vs kde also a holy war, or are they more relaxed
[04:29] <omglazers> gyaresu: Yup. Password and all
[04:29] <professor> dont know but I know that your memory is greatly expanded
[04:29] <professor> clear
[04:29] <Jarhead756> K3nto: i could be wrong, but aren't zunes supposed to be really bad? like not even being able to use as an external disk?
[04:29] <riotkittie> preaction: not that i know of. this is a recurring issue when i put my wireless card in.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: An easy thing to do with any program is just to create a user that only has access to it's own home folder and always run wine as that user
[04:29] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'less install.sh'
[04:29] <preaction> riotkittie: so removing the wireless card cures it?
[04:30] <lufi1> K3nto: why? just get an mp3 player that doesn't require you to use its own software to use it.
[04:30] <preaction> riotkittie: what type?
[04:30] <gyaresu> omglazers: check that the first line was changed to '#!/bin/bash'
[04:30] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, I'll try that :)
[04:30] <Taime1> WHEN I GO TO INSTALL ICONS, IT TELLS ME THAT THE FILE FORMAT IS INVALID? WHY IS THAT?
[04:30] <Taime1> sorry bout that
[04:30] <Evil_`> Jordan_U, how would I make it only have access to it's own home folder?
[04:30] <K3nto> Jarhead756: people got around that somehow. I believe the next generation of zunes will be reatly improved anyway (and simultaneously come to canada)
[04:30] <Jordan_U> !caps | Taime1
[04:30] <ubotu> Taime1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:30] <Taime1> my wep key is in caps
[04:30] <omglazers> gyaresu: ok ill do that
[04:30] <preaction> Taime1: are you trying to install windows .ico files?
[04:30] <K3nto> lufil: there arent any good one
[04:30] <Taime1> i apologized right after i did that
[04:30] <Jarhead756> lufi1: K3nto i like ipods, they are easily managable within linux if you give it some time.
[04:30] <Taime1> why dont you wait
[04:30] <riotkittie> preaction:  IIRC, i need to remove it and reboot.  its been a while since i've bothered with it tho, so i'm not sure . uhm the card is a d-link airplus
[04:31] <K3nto> lufil: besides, i like the seamless integration
[04:31] <Taime1> or  read it before you bark at me
[04:31] <Taime1> it was an honest mistake
[04:31] <preaction> riotkittie: you're removing physical hardware while the system is ON?
[04:31] <lufi1> K3nto: yeah. i dunno, i think it's kind of tyrannical to force users into using one app
[04:31] <sortadi> hey there
[04:31] <sortadi> one question
[04:31] <omglazers> gyaresu: It was changed
[04:31] <preaction> riotkittie: this isn't a hotplug device, is it? USB / Firewire?
[04:31] <phixnay> K3nto: or put rockbox on your mp3 player
[04:31] <sortadi> in which branch of debian is ubuntu based?
[04:31] <Jordan_U> Taime1: Sory, I thought you meant "sorry I had to do that" at first
[04:31] <gyaresu> omglazers: another thing you can do is check that the symbolic link /usr/src/linux is pointed at the right directory 'ls -l /usr/src/linux'. It should be the same as the output from 'uname -a'.
[04:31] <sortadi> the stable ubuntu release?
[04:31] <Taime1> anyway, no prob...it does look prett bad when i type in caps
[04:32] <Jordan_U> sortadi: Unstable I bleive
[04:32] <riotkittie> preaction: no, not removing hardware while the machine is on.             no, not usb/firewire. pcmcia.
[04:32] <Jarhead756> phixnay: is rockbox any good? how about on my ipod? what are the benifits of it?
[04:32] <K3nto> lufil: not if the app is a really good on, which itunes is
[04:32] <sortadi> isn't it testing?
[04:32] <Taime1> my wep key is in caps, it was the last thing i typed :/
[04:32] <jamaur> hey all, I'm looking for a video capture device that would work with an old video card, would the following do? http://www.adstech.com/products/USBAV-191-EF/sysreq/USBAV_191_req.asp?pid=USBAV-191-EF
[04:32] <Jarhead756> phixnay: i have a video 30gb
[04:32] <omglazers> gyaresu: This is what it says it fails 'check kernel header files (not found)'
[04:32] <K3nto> phixnay: will it go onto any mp3 player?
[04:32] <omglazers> gyaresu: Thats the only thing that fails
[04:32] <K3nto> !rockbox
[04:32] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[04:32] <omglazers> gyaresu: Says the kernel header isnt found and that I need to install it and make a symbolic link
[04:32] <Taime1> anyway, i am installing linux icons in the original uncompressed format
[04:33] <Taime1> but it keeps giving me that error about invalid format
[04:33] <CSVarg> Does anyone have any experience with Gateway laptops ?
[04:33] <gyaresu> omglazers: bugger. I thought this might be a problem. Can you see linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386 or something like it in '/usr/src/' ?
[04:33] <phixnay> Jarhead: from what I know, rockbox works pretty well on the hardware it supports. I wouldn't install it if I didn't know how to put the original software back though
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Taime1: Did you decompress it first ( if so it won't work ) ?
[04:33] <omglazers> gyaresu: Lemme go there
[04:33] <Taime1> did that , same problem
[04:33] <omglazers> gyaresu: the fail message says this part though:
[04:33] <Jarhead756> K3nto: do you use rockbox? if so on what?
[04:33] <riotkittie> i would suck it up and just pop my wired card back in BUT then i cant squeeze my usb card in. which means i either lose teh mouse and plug my external hd into a usb 1.1 hub, or keep the mouse and go from 411gb to 11gb :P
[04:33] <preaction> riotkittie: anything interesting in dmesg or boot.log ?
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Taime1: Where did you get it from?
[04:33] <K3nto> Jarhead756: i dont
[04:33] <riotkittie> brb. let me look.
[04:34] <Taime1> gnome look
[04:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: 'please install linux header file development package or create a symbolic link from the /usr/src/kernel_version directory to linux'
[04:34] <K3nto> but i have an old rca mp3 player that restarts itself repeatedly that i would like to fix
[04:34] <gyaresu> omglazers: You will probably need to manually get a couple of packages on the mac and manually install them. (It's easy)
[04:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: 'then it gives an example line or two to run'
[04:34] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK
[04:34] <gyaresu> omglazers: ignore all that.
[04:34] <Jordan_U> Taime1: You should literally be able to drag the link directly from gnome-look to the preferences and it should download it and install, I would try that
[04:35] <gyaresu> Can you please tell me if there are any folders when you 'ls -l /usr/src/'
[04:35] <omglazers> gyaresu: I went to the usr/src and I see two folders. both kernels
[04:35] <Mixx> i've got mythweb serving recorded programs as myth:\\<server>/recordings/<filename>.mpg so I can watch them via VLC on Windows.  Is there a way I can similarly associate the Myth:\\ protocol in Firefox with VLC on a separate linux box?
[04:35] <Taime1> to what preferences?
[04:35] <gyaresu> omglazers: Ooh. That's good.
[04:35] <Taime1> the install icon dialog?
[04:35] <omglazers> gyaresu: I think they're kernels? 'linux-headers2.6.17-10' and a second one named that with -generic at the end
[04:35] <gyaresu> omglazers: Yay!
[04:35] <aleska__> I just saw some back and forth about rockbox...I just installed it today on my iPod mini...so far I think I like it!
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Taime1: I don't know, I am stuck in OSx until someone helps me fix GRUB :)
[04:36] <ToddEDM> hello everyone
[04:36] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'cd /usr/src'
[04:36] <Taime1> ouch
[04:36] <cables> Jordan_U, OS X isn't a bad place to be :)
[04:36] <cables> Jordan_U, if that happened to me, I'd be on WinXP :(
[04:36] <ToddEDM> lol
[04:36] <omglazers> gyaresu: ok, which one next? generic or not?
[04:37] <lineman60> is there a gnome front end for GDB?
[04:37] <ToddEDM> heres a story someone might find humorous......
[04:37] <peeps> if I download a .dewb file directly, and it says it is for dapper, is there any reason it wouldn't work for edgy?
[04:37] <Jordan_U> Taime1: wait, I think the dragging directly may only work on art.gnome.com ( good site, I like it better than gnome-look )
[04:37] <peeps> *.deb*
[04:37] <peeps> lol
[04:37] <Taime1> i see
[04:37] <gyaresu> omglazers: What's happening here is we make a symbolic link called 'linux' pointed at the kernel-headers folder that matches the name of the kernel that you are currently running.
[04:37] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK
[04:37] <fiyawerx> hey guys, if you somehow remove yourself from sudoer group (friend did on ubuntu) can you readd yourself somehow?
[04:37] <gili> does
[04:38] <fiyawerx> and .. is gnomebaker or another app to burn iso's included with the default ubuntu install?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> fiyawerx: Yes,
[04:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: ln -s /usr/src/kernel /usr/src/linux ?
[04:38] <lineman60> fiyawex try reboot in grub type a (sspace)1
[04:38] <gyaresu> omglazers: You find out what kernel you're running with 'uname -a'
[04:38] <omglazers> gyaresu: generic version
[04:38] <Evil_`> how would I remove wine?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> fiyawerx: From the GUI just re-check the allow user to administrate ( or something like that ) box, or edit the sudoers file manually
[04:39] <lineman60> that should  boot you in single user mode
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Evil_`: sudo apt-get remove wine
[04:39] <Evil_`> thanks
[04:39] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'sudo ln -s linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic linux' (if I got the right name for your headers folder...)
[04:39] <lineman60> as root, then just type passwd get a root password
[04:39] <fiyawerx> how bout the iso burning issue? what can you use in gnome on a default install?
[04:40] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK, lemme try it
[04:40] <sortadi> could anybody pleae make a /sysinfo?
[04:40] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'ls -l linux' should tell you where 'linux' is pointed at.
[04:40] <Jordan_U> fiyawerx: You can right click the iso and go to burn, or use cdrecord /path/to/iso from the terminal
[04:40] <ToddEDM> i installed ubuntu the other day, but i had no sound...... so after a few days trying to get drivers installed for the sound , and grafx card, i gave up, looked all night last night to find a good repalcement settled on edubuntu, WOW, the live CD has sound, and the grafx were working properly.... lets install it....DAMN stuck at 40%, tried a few times, then gave up..SO i downloaded mepis, looks ok... UHHH OHHH the fackin touchpad doesnt w
[04:41] <ToddEDM> back to install ubuntu
[04:41] <ToddEDM> :P
[04:41] <fiyawerx> thanks guys
[04:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: OK, I did it. I think it worked
[04:41] <SoftICE> ?
[04:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: Ok, I think it worked!
[04:41] <omglazers> gyaresu: Lemme try installing it again
[04:41] <ToddEDM> thats my lil story... hope someone gets a giggle
[04:41] <gyaresu> omglazers: change back to the DriverInstall directory and... Yeah that ^^ :)
[04:42] <a_lacsa> hello
[04:42] <riotkittie> preaction:  err. i dont seem to have a boot log :o
[04:42] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Are you following the wiki or a blog post? ( there are some bloggers that think they know a lot more than they do... )
[04:42] <riotkittie> and dmesg held no clue.
[04:42] <omglazers> YES
[04:42] <omglazers> YES
[04:42] <CSVarg> Is there any way to override a SETUP password on a Gateway laptop ?
[04:42] <omglazers> I CAME
[04:42] <omglazers> IT WORKED
[04:42] <tannerld> does anyone know how to fix http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334828689#post1334828689
[04:42] <omglazers> at least it installed!
[04:42] <omglazers> gyaresu: Do I have to restart? =-O
[04:43] <riotkittie> CSVarg: setup ... BIOS?
[04:43] <gyaresu> omglazers: No.
[04:43] <SoftICE> hi, am i already in, or need a register?
[04:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: I LOVE YOU
[04:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: Its there!!!
[04:43] <CSVarg> riot: yes
[04:43] <gyaresu> omglazers: I don't know if it 'modprobed' the kernel for you or not.
[04:43] <preaction> riotkittie: it's /var/log/boot, but it's just the output of init (which may be useful nonetheless)
[04:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: Google.com never looked so good!!!!
[04:43] <riotkittie> CSVarg: take the CMOS battery out for about two minutes and it will reset...
[04:43] <CSVarg> alright
[04:43] <CSVarg> thank you
[04:43] <gyaresu> omglazers: oh cool. Well I'd reboot to see whether the module is autoloaded or not.
[04:44] <gyaresu> omglazers: (congrats bye the way)
[04:44] <a_lacsa> hello, Im quite new to ubuntu. i am trying to find where i need to save the files for the website i am making. i already have apache2 installed but i cant find /htdocs. where is it?
[04:44] <omglazers> gyaresu: Thank you so goddamn much
[04:44] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U... i was just installing, and trying things out
[04:44] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: they're probably in /var/www/
[04:44] <omglazers> gyaresu: At least now that I have the internet I can learn linux properly, on the desktop
[04:44] <riotkittie> preaction: not there, i swear.
[04:44] <preaction> riotkittie: what version of ubuntu?
[04:44] <gyaresu> omglazers: Very welcome. Reboot the machine and let me know if it still works. I'll keep an I out for you .
[04:44] <riotkittie> preaction: dapper
[04:45] <preaction> riotkittie: ah, that might explain it. any problem with a dist-upgrade?
[04:45] <a_lacsa> @firefly: /var/www/ is read only in my view.. do i need to login as root?
[04:45] <cchance>  I get the error "The Share name was not valid or something to that extent with Samba accessing it over a windows 98 can some one help me resolve this or give me a sample config file? I have got it setup now for domain controll (ass you can see)
[04:45] <cchance> as*
[04:45] <armadill0> I've got this strange issue when I try to ALT+TAB between windows in KDE.  I'm using nvidia twinview for dual LCD, and I've noticed that my alt+tab "list" only shows the windows for that LCD, not the other (and visa versa)  How can I get my alt+tab to list all windows on the desktop?  thanks... its drivin me nuts
[04:46] <omglazers> gyaresu: I think it worked. Do I have to worry about video card drivers too ?
[04:46] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: you need to change the permissions so you can read and write to that directory
[04:46] <riotkittie> err. as in... upgrade to edgy?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> armadill0: #kubuntu may be more helpfull for KDE
[04:47] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: you can use chown username /path/todirectory/
[04:47] <gyaresu> omglazers: what gfx chip do you have?
[04:47] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: lemme dig up a tutorial for ya
[04:47] <a_lacsa> ok i will try that now firefly
[04:47] <cchance> logon home = \\homeserver\%U\winprofile
[04:47] <armadill0> Jordan_U;  good point, I'll give that a shot too
[04:47] <cchance> Is that correct
[04:47] <omglazers> gyaresu: 7900 nvidia gs
[04:47] <a_lacsa> ok thanks
[04:47] <gyaresu> !nvidia > omglazers
[04:48] <omglazers> gyaresu: Er? :|
[04:48] <gyaresu> !nvidia
[04:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <omglazers> Yay
[04:48] <omglazers> :P
[04:48] <omglazers> Thanks
[04:48] <omglazers> im going to jump back on, on the desktop brb
[04:49] <riotkittie> brb. going to the forums. :o
[04:49] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2121716
[04:49] <a_lacsa> thanks firefly. btw i tryed chown.. it gave an error: operation not permitted
[04:50] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: yeah, commandline is tricky, I would do "sudo nautilus" then go to the directory, right click to properties, and change the owership to you
[04:50] <Confuse> hi
[04:50] <cchance> I get the error "The Share name was not valid or something to that extent with Samba accessing it over a windows 98 can some one help me resolve this or give me a sample config file? I have got it setup now for domain controll (ass you can see)
[04:50] <Ramsed> Has "the powerpc community" a website where they release things, like the latest herd 5 for powerpc (I know it has been drop officially) ?
[04:51] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: in the permissions tab
[04:51] <a_lacsa> firefly: ok trying that now
[04:51] <Jordan_U> Ramsed: It's still going to be developed, just not supported
[04:52] <omglazers> !nvidia
[04:52] <Ramsed> Jordan_U: but where, I can't find a community website, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-powerpc does not contain to much
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <gyaresu> omglazers: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy This should do it.
[04:54] <cchance> Do i have to Yell to get some attention
[04:54] <cchance> Dont flatter me with the dang wait crap
[04:54] <gyaresu> !patience | cchance
[04:54] <ubotu> cchance: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:55] <sloof3> Is it possible to use checkinstall to make a deb from a .bin
[04:55] <cchance> that relly ticks me off
[04:55] <cchance> hmm
[04:55] <cchance> their
[04:55] <omglazers> gyaresu: How do I make sure I have the universe and multiverse in the adept manager enabled?
[04:55] <gyaresu> !repos > omglazers
[04:56] <wolfspirit> is there any possible way to install kernel 2.6.20 via a repository for edgey?
[04:56] <cchance> I get the error "The Share name was not valid or something to that extent with Samba accessing it over a windows 98 can some one help me resolve this or give me a sample config file? I have got it setup now for domain controll (ass you can see)
[04:57] <gyaresu> wolfspirit: I think you have to build it from source and add all the patches yourself. It may well break more than it fixes
[04:57] <gyaresu> cchance: your client machine is win98?
[04:58] <cchance> gyaresu why does it matter? It still connects
[04:58] <riotkittie> arrgh :\
[04:58] <cchance> gyaresu it sees my machine but it cant find the users home directory
[04:58] <SoftICE> can anybody tell me how to configuration xchat? why the chars in every line is missing?
[04:58] <cchance> path = /home/
[04:58] <gyaresu> cchance: If you can't answer a clarifying question how is _anyone_ supposed to know what you are trying to achieve.
 you there?
[04:58] <omglazers> gyaresu: Worked perfectly. Thank you, god of linux :P
[04:59] <peeps> how do I uninstall a package that was installed via .deb?
[04:59] <gyaresu> omglazers: The prayer was aimed at the deity and not me right ;)
[04:59] <cchance> gyaresu, yes gyaresu it is
[04:59] <gyaresu> peeps: apt-get remove thing
[04:59] <omglazers> gyaresu: From what I hear, I now have to worship the penguin, so, I assum I meant tux :P
[04:59] <a_lacsa> firefly: ok now I was able to copy my website files to www. but when i tried to access localhost, it showed 403 forbidden. earlier it was working fine
[05:00] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: ok, now make sure the files you have in there have read access by everyone
[05:00] <gabz> !glxinfo
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glxinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <a_lacsa> ok lemme check that
[05:00] <omglazers> gyaresu: I gotta say though, after all of that.. Kubuntu doesnt seem as nice as Gnome.
[05:00] <gyaresu> cchance: Ok. Well win98 is crap at accessing smb shares so you have a problem there.
[05:00] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: read access should be given to you the group and finally others
[05:00] <riotkittie> anyone else want to take a stab at my nonexistant TTY issue? :P
[05:00] <omglazers> gyaresu: At least now I can do this again if I need to next time if I wanna install gome ubuntu
[05:00] <cchance> gyaresu, then why did i even try it.. i dont know why i do these things anyway
[05:01] <gyaresu> omglazers: Out of the box they're all annoying. Keep messing around with settings till you get something you like.
[05:01] <peeps> thanks gyaresu
[05:01] <cchance> gyaresu oh well
[05:01] <peeps> didn't think that would work if it wasn't installed via apt-get
[05:01] <omglazers> gyaresu: Ill figure it out. :D
[05:01] <gyaresu> cchance: I assume that was rhetorical?
[05:01] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: it's in the permissions section that you just changed :)
[05:01] <SoftICE> Confuse:?
[05:02] <a_lacsa> ok
[05:02] <cchance> gyaresu, i dont want to go into my bros computer messing this up, just so that i have to call some one out here to repair it
[05:02] <gyaresu> omglazers: I use fluxbox as my manager because I set hotkeys to launch all the apps i use and it makes the whole thing very minimalist which is what I personally prefer.
[05:02] <shulman> how do I install edgy onto a RAID1?
[05:02] <cchance> this /s/ngs
[05:02] <Mixx> i've got mythweb serving recorded programs as myth:\\<server>/recordings/<filename>.mpg so I can watch them via VLC on Windows.  Is there a way I can similarly associate the Myth:\\ protocol in Firefox with VLC on a separate linux box?
[05:02] <riotkittie> win 98 ? dear god.
[05:03] <riotkittie> fluxbox <3
[05:03] <omglazers> gyaresu: Fluxbox huh? Ill google it
[05:03] <firefly2442> Mixx: Preferences->Downloads->View and Edit Actions ? this is under 1.5
[05:03] <gyaresu> cchance: You need to take a break my friend. Your frustration is palpable. Come back in a minute with a good outline of what you want to acheive and some well phrased questions and we'll see what we can do.
[05:03] <riotkittie> argh. i might as well boot back into xp. this sucks.
[05:04] <gyaresu> omglazers: omglazers welcome to the world of FLOSS. Anythings possible :)
[05:04] <omglazers> gyaresu: =-O oh noes.
[05:05] <riotkittie> i need to finetune my keys file :D
[05:05] <omglazers> brb
[05:05] <Turner> how do I install a SMP kernel?
[05:06] <gyaresu> Turner: apt-cache search SMP
[05:06] <Turner> linux-686-smp is already the newest version.
[05:06] <Turner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:06] <Turner> root@Mordor:/home/turner# uname -a
[05:06] <Turner> Linux Mordor 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:06] <Turner> hm
[05:06] <riotkittie> argh. i keep hitting ALT CTRL F7 and... realizing im in X. i want my TTYs back. excuse me while i cry like a girl :D
[05:07] <firefly2442> Turner: is that the 1 not upgraded?
[05:08] <gyaresu> Turner: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[05:08] <a_lacsa> firefly: hmm still error 403.. what am i doing wrong? i did all that you said..
[05:08] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: is the /var/www/ directory accessable to everyone with read privileges?
[05:09] <Turner> yeah, only shows one processor
[05:09] <Turner> going to try and reinstall 686-smp
[05:10] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: can you tell me what it says when you do properties on the /var/www/ folder?
[05:10] <a_lacsa> firefly: oh that what i did wrong.. i only changed the permissions in the files.. not the folder. it working now
[05:10] <a_lacsa> thanks very much firefly!
[05:10] <cwill1> anyone have any experience with prevu?
[05:11] <firefly2442> a_lacsa: you bet, have fun with apache :)
[05:11] <xtknight> are there any programs that can wrap a very simple, one-file usb windows driver for use in linux?  sorta like ndiswrapper but for a usb communication device (colorimeter)...
[05:11] <gyaresu> Turner: "linux-686-smp - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic"
[05:11] <a_lacsa> firefly: thanks! will do
[05:11] <steelb> are there any ikaruga type games for linux?
[05:12] <catchjosh> Anyone running Edgy on a Lenovo T Series?
[05:12] <eck> xtknight: i don't think so. there's a good chance you can find some code or a driver online, otherwise you have to go with a vm
[05:13] <JamesBee1> hello
[05:13] <xtknight> eck: i was thinking that.  unfortunately, the VMware drivers don't allow gamma adjustment so the colorimeter software won't work, to my knowledge...not sure though i should still be able to grab the icm it outputs and use it
[05:13] <lastnode_> hi JamesBee1
[05:13] <eck> i would imagine that a colorimeter is pretty simple and there is already a driver for it
[05:13] <xtknight> eck: sadly, not for linux.  i may try to make my own driver for it
[05:13] <JamesBee1> anyone ever play savage?
[05:13] <SoftICE> JamesBee1:hello
[05:13] <xtknight> eck: it seems like a very simple concept...just communicating with a serial device, right?
[05:13] <JamesBee1> !savage
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <eck> xtknight: it _seems_ simple, but i've never written a driver before, so who knows
[05:14] <eshaase> does ubuntu's installer support setting up a system with lvm?
[05:14] <eck> you can probably find a driver for another one and modify it for the device you have, if you are willing to do some hacking
[05:14] <omglazers> Hey gyaresu, im trying method #2 and im on step #4 (
[05:14] <omglazers> 4) Press CTRL-ALT-F1 (so as to get to the command line, not a windowed terminal, but out of the graphical interface GUI)
[05:14] <omglazers> login with your username and password (if required)
[05:14] <catchjosh> Better question -- anyone having trouble running the Live CD on any recent IBM / Lenovo notebook?
[05:14] <omglazers> Shit sorry I didnt know it would do that
[05:14] <omglazers> Err, anyways, its not working and I have no idea why. Im using the Konsole (since im in kubuntu)
[05:14] <firefly2442> eshaase: yes, but I think you need the alternative ISO for that
[05:14] <gyaresu> omglazers: s'aight.
[05:15] <JamesBee1> i have a problem with a game's sound and i'm pretty new to the OS. can anyone help?
[05:15] <eshaase> firefly2442: alternative iso?
[05:15] <eck> catchjosh: i didn't when i installed edgy
[05:15] <eshaase> firefly2442: how does that differ from the original one?
[05:15] <gireesh> how do you enable nvidia in UBuntu? nvidia-glx enable?
[05:15] <gyaresu> omglazers: Did you update you repos list and then upgrade?
[05:15] <catchjosh> Eck: Thanks for the response. Did you try the Live CD or just straight install?
[05:15] <JamesBee1> there's no ubuntu games channel is there?
[05:15] <firefly2442> eshaase: it provides RAID support, and I think also LVM
[05:15] <a_lacsa> just worndering.. is there an opensource messenger that can connect to yahoo messenger and will allow you to view webcams and do voice chat?
[05:15] <eshaase> how closely does ubuntu follow debian's policies for file management (/etc, etc.)?
[05:16] <gireesh> a_lacsa: kopete
[05:16] <catchjosh> Eck: I've got a variety of 'buntu boxes, but this is the first time I've tried it on a lappy.
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Pretty sure I did. I followed that link, enabled the two universes, added multiverse to the ends of each and reupdated
[05:16] <eck> catchjosh: i think i used the live cd (might have been the netinstall though)
[05:16] <cwill1> prevu is the bain of my existence right now:  I've got a dependency installed that _is_ the right version, but it keeps detecting an older version, and saying the package can't be installed because of it.  help!
[05:16] <a_lacsa> ok gireesh thanks. ill look for it
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Reran the fetch, all fetched.
[05:16] <catchjosh> eck: if you don't mind me asking, what model are you on?
[05:16] <gyaresu> omglazers: Did you 'upgrade' as well?
[05:16] <eck> catchjosh: i did have a problem with the live cd a while back (breezy i think)
[05:16] <eck> x40
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Upgrade? Sorry, I dont think so?
[05:16] <gireesh> how do I enable NVidia from the command line?
[05:16] <eshaase> stability-wise, am i better of going with dapper drake or edgy eft?
[05:16] <gyaresu> gireesh: Have you followed the !nvidia
[05:16] <omglazers> gyaresu: Sorry :(
[05:17] <catchjosh> eck: Any install issues? (Besides ATI drivers, the normal, etc.)
[05:17] <gyaresu> omglazers: no problem.
[05:17] <firefly2442> eshaase: yep http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ see the alternative section
[05:17] <eshaase> firefly2442: ok, thanks
[05:17] <gireesh> gyaresu: yeah I used my normal install procedure
[05:17] <JamesBee1> anyone know how to install a better audio driver than the one that came prepackaged with the OS? (i believe i have an intel on board soundcard)
[05:17] <sm0k3d> hey guys
[05:17] <a_lacsa> gireesh: kopete seems to be for kde. i am using gnome.. can it still work?
[05:17] <gireesh> but I get a screen not found error
[05:17] <gireesh> a_lacsa: I dont see why not
[05:17] <eshaase> firefly2442: stability-wise, am i better of going with dapper drake or edgy eft?
[05:17] <eck> catchjosh: no. as i said, with breezy there was a problem where the screen would black out during the middle of the install (!), but other than that i haven't had any issues
[05:17] <a_lacsa> gireesh: ok thanks very much. will try that
[05:18] <gyaresu> omglazers: You can tell that I only use the cli. So my command knowledge is focused there (helps when you have no xserver running as well)
[05:18] <firefly2442> eshaase: I would go with Edgy personally, but they're both good
[05:18] <K3nto> !webcam
[05:18] <gireesh> a_lacsa: a biiger challenge is going to be to get your webcam enabled and working
[05:18] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:18] <catchjosh> eck: Okay, thanks very much. You've been a great help.
[05:18] <JamesBee1> !sound
[05:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:18] <eshaase> firefly2442: ok, thanks again
[05:18] <a_lacsa> gireesh: ahh hehe ok :D
[05:18] <gireesh> !nvidia
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <gyaresu> gireesh: Did you have nvidia drivers running? Did you just upgrade your kernel? Do you still have a window manager running?
[05:18] <gireesh> gyaresu: yes I just upgraded kernel
[05:19] <gireesh> I rebooted and promptly the x-server failed
[05:19] <eck> gyaresu: you only use the cli? don't you think that's a bit extreme?!
[05:19] <sm0k3d> i just have a quick question... i am going to install ubuntu to make a server, would kubuntu or xubuntu or edubuntu be *better or easyer* for me learning linux and how to make a server
[05:19] <gyaresu> gireesh: "Every time you change or upgrade your kernel you will have to reinstall the Nvidia driver, no matter which method you used to install the driver."
[05:19] <gyaresu> gireesh: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[05:19] <eck> sm0k3d: you won't want X at all on a serer
[05:19] <gireesh> sm0k3d: the base is all the same
[05:19] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: My experience with the standard Ubuntu Server install has always been easy.
[05:20] <sm0k3d> ok so regular ubuntu is the way to go
[05:20] <firefly2442> Will Feisty have spellcheck built into Firefox by default?
[05:20] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: After install, I just run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:20] <eck> sm0k3d: just use any of them on the desktop for a while and after you are comfortable use the server install
[05:20] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: Have you installed linux before?
[05:20] <arfy> hi all. Where can I find out about how to do package admin from the command line/gnome-term? i.e, apt manuals?
[05:20] <gireesh> wow that is terrible
[05:20] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: What type of services are you trying to setup?
[05:20] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: Then you have all the benefits of the desktop, and a nice LAMP stack with zero configuration required.
[05:20] <sm0k3d> um no
[05:20] <lanaz> goodmorning ;)
[05:20] <eck> arfy: yes, the man pages
[05:20] <omglazers> gyaresu: So what should I be doing then? Im sorry for all this stupid trouble. Maybe just resend the link and I missed something there?
[05:20] <eck> the online docs are good too
[05:20] <misfit_toy> 936 people in an IRC channel is insane
[05:21] <sm0k3d> i want to learn more about server, how to set them up and how to use/maintain them (ftp, http, game servers, etc.)
[05:21] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: I take it you are on Windows?
[05:21] <papai> u
[05:21] <eck> sm0k3d: you won't learn anything very useful about that from gnome/kde/xfce
[05:21] <papai> oi
[05:21] <exs> anyone using feisty? if so, how is it saping up?
[05:21] <sm0k3d> right now? this is my laptop
[05:21] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: You will benefit from a desktop if you've never installed linux before for many reasons. One of which is that people trying to help you can also point you to some Graffical User Interface tools.
[05:21] <exs> shaping*
[05:21] <gireesh> exs I am
[05:21] <papai> brasil?
[05:22] <K3nto> !webcam
[05:22] <gyaresu> omglazers: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:22] <james296> does anyone know where to find the default fonts.conf file for Edgy Eft?
[05:22] <misfit_toy> !compiz
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <interstellar_ove>  maybe someone can help me out - this is the problem that i'm having but i'm a ubuntu user - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=171453&x=20&y=6&=Find
[05:22] <gyaresu> omglazers: I don't know which bit you were up to.
[05:22] <scan_> how do I go from a usb keyboard to a ps2 keyboard?
[05:22] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: so i shouldnt install ubuntu server, but the desktop one?
[05:22] <eck> james296: do you know about the locate command?
[05:22] <papai> alguem do brasil?
[05:22] <gyaresu> scan_: Just reboot with PS2 in the machine.
[05:22] <omglazers> gyaresu: I mean, the package multi/uni part
[05:22] <gireesh> man!! Ubuntu needs a GUI configuration for 3D drivers
[05:23] <papai> breyl
[05:23] <james296> dont think it works since I didnt create a backup...
[05:23] <papai> beryl
[05:23] <scan_> my usb keyboard is going bad
[05:23] <papai> ?
[05:23] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: You will find it easier but it's not necessary. You will just need to learn to drive everything from the command line.
[05:23] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: I don't think there is a combined Desktop / Server install...
[05:23] <sm0k3d> im so confused
[05:23] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: As I said, if you can get it installed trhough the server, you just type in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , and you have the full GUI.
[05:23] <eck> james296: it's in /etc/fonts, but in the future you should just use locate or find to find out where it is
[05:23] <sm0k3d> ok so i should install the server, cuz the desktop version ill need to learn the command anyway?
[05:24] <sm0k3d> ah ok
[05:24] <eck> james296: it's also documented in the man page
[05:24] <lanaz> unix isnt hard, just they are different.. ;) windows makes lamers form pplz, they dont need to think :D
[05:24] <lanaz> i am right ?
[05:24] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: There's a balance... the Desktop version is quite easy to install, but then you have to get the server stuff set up for you. The Server version sets up all your server stuff, but then you have to install the Desktop stuff. :)
[05:24] <firefly2442> lanaz: word
[05:24] <gyaresu> omglazers: here's mine as an example: http://gyaresu.org/sources.list
[05:24] <sm0k3d> ok
[05:24] <eck> lanaz: unix makes some lamers too :-/
[05:25] <sm0k3d> thanks for the help guys
[05:25] <lanaz> i made by windows ^^
[05:25] <sm0k3d> o 1 last question, is there like a ubuntu handbook?
[05:25] <james296> actually, I heard ppl say they had font problems fixed by removing fonts.conf and restart, how can I get that back?
[05:25] <firefly2442> eck: lamers on the way to becoming masters ;)
[05:25] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: help.ubuntu.com
[05:25] <firefly2442> sm0k3d: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:25] <sm0k3d> ok thanks
[05:26] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: FYI: remember to preface what you say with the persons nick.
[05:26] <gyaresu> !ubuntuguide
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <gyaresu> !ubuntuguide.org
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide.org - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <peeps> does anyone know what package I would find "makeinfo" in?
[05:27] <eck> sm0k3d: there is handbook included in the desktop install
[05:27] <james296> well? how do I get fonts.conf back?
[05:27] <eck> system > help and support
[05:27] <eck> james296: did you delete it?
[05:27] <james296> yes...I did
[05:27] <firefly2442> night all
[05:28] <eck> james296: i'll pastebin mine for you
[05:28] <GaiaX11> sm0k3d: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[05:28] <james296> thnx :d
[05:28] <eck> there's some way to regenerate it with fontconfig, but i don't know how well that works
[05:28] <Taime1> i installed k3b, but when i go to burn a cd, it tells me that it doesnt have permissions to burn...i go to run k3bsetup, and it says it cant find the module...why is that ?
[05:28] <james296> is it the default though?
[05:28] <bibek> whats the difference between "apt-get source sth" and "apt-get install sth-dev"
[05:29] <lanaz> lamme question : is there any compination of keys, that show desktop, like on widnows win+m ?
[05:29] <eck> james296: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8327/
[05:29] <peeps> nevermind, the answer is texinfo
[05:29] <Taime1> anyone in here use k3b?
[05:30] <gyaresu> Taime1: Aye.
[05:30] <eck> lanaz: in gnome the bottom left corner button does that, you can also configure a keybinding for it if you like
[05:30] <hollar> cool
[05:30] <arfy> bibek: apt-get blah source downloads the full source code, where as apt-get blah-dev is just the development libs and include files usually, afaik.
[05:30] <dankistheman> nice
[05:30] <Taime1> i cant get k3bsetup to run so that ican burn a cd
[05:30] <Taime1> what gives?
[05:30] <gyaresu> Taime1: Sounds like a strange problem. If you run the setup (or K3b) from a command line then you get more verbose messages.
[05:30] <Taime1> well, i get cant find module
[05:31] <bibek> arfy, oh thatn means
[05:31] <lanaz> eck, thanks, ill configure it ;) sorry for broken english ...
[05:31] <gyaresu> Taime1: Can you run k3bsetup from a terminal please.
[05:31] <bibek> arfy, -dev files are for other programs while soure files are the program themselves
[05:31] <bibek> ?
[05:31] <exs> How is feisty shaping u? anyone using it?
[05:31] <hollar> cool
[05:31] <JamesBee1> can anyone help with an ingame sound issue
[05:31] <eck> exs: it's pretty much like edgy, but with newer packages and a lot more bugs
[05:32] <Taime1> you want me to pasthere?
[05:32] <Taime1> pastehere*
[05:32] <arfy> it's looking promising, with gnome 2.18 set to be default, and also accessibility for blind/visually impared uses it improved.
[05:32] <gyaresu> !pastebin | Taime1
[05:32] <ubotu> Taime1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <Taime1> i knoe how to paste
[05:32] <Taime1> that wasnt my question
[05:32] <papai> bgb
[05:32] <dankistheman> here i am
[05:32] <brussel> in the top display it shows the following users: brussel (me), root, dhcp, mysql, postgres, haldaemo, messageb.  Does anybody know what haldaemo and messageb are?
[05:32] <Taime1> do you want the output?
[05:33] <papai> alo
[05:33] <gireesh> HAL daemon and Messagebus
[05:33] <Dr_willis> hal - hardware abastraction layer
[05:33] <Dr_willis> i think :)
[05:33] <brussel> thanks dr_willis
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: If you know how to paste then why are you asking me?
[05:33] <papai> hrlp beryl
[05:33] <gireesh> wasnt there going to be a failsafe video mode in Feisty?
[05:33] <papai> help beryl
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: if it's one line then sure, paste here.
[05:33] <ToddEDM> whatchu talkinbout Willis
[05:33] <Taime1> that wasnt my question
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: If it's 20 lines then pastebin.
[05:33] <Taime1> iasked if you wanted me to "pastehere"
[05:33] <Taime1> as in pastehere.com
[05:33] <gyaresu> Taime1: ^^
[05:35] <hollar> dank?
[05:35] <JamesBee1> i have choppy sound in a game. the game doesn't list a driver under driver in options. does anyone know what i can try to do?
[05:35] <Taime1> here is my "pastehere" link:  http://pastehere.com/?jkaqfn
[05:35] <lanaz> hem, fonts looks smoother on ubuntu than on windows ;)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  what game?
[05:36] <JamesBee1> savage
[05:36] <papai> brasil?
[05:36] <meezyfuh> hey. i am using the new ubuntu on a laptop. when i began closing my laptop (it wasn't even closed all the way yet) i think ubuntu restarted. my desktop went away and i got the unbuntu 'login'  screen again. what happened?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  interesting.. that game plays decently well on my system and my creative audigy card.. fun game. :)
[05:36] <eck> !pt
[05:36] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:36] <riotkittie> I'm using a laptop. I recently got an external hard drive, which necessitated the purchase of a PCMCIA usb card, which necessitates I use wireless over my wired connection because the wireless card fits with the usb card, while the wired doesn't. Anyway, on to my point.
[05:36] <papai> alguen do brasil?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> meezyfuh,  just a guess.. tried to suspend and the X drivers crashed.
[05:37] <meezyfuh> Dr_willis: is there a way i can fix that?
[05:37] <meezyfuh> if that indeed is what caused it.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> meezyfuh,  prove wht happened first.. and it depends on your video card.
[05:38] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: i have a question on the server install, it is asking me if i want to install DNS server or LAMP server. which is just like ftp, http, etc. server?  im looking in the help.unbuntu.com but i dont see anything that can shed any light on eather one.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> meezyfuh,  some drivers just have issues with 'suspending'
[05:38] <meezyfuh> Dr_willis: i'm going to try to duplicate it.
[05:38] <gyaresu> Taime1: 'k3b -v'
[05:38] <JamesBee1> dr-willis - is the speech in game prerecorded or are people using mics? I cant tell cause of the choppiness and im new to the game.
[05:38] <eck> sm0k3d: if you don't know what lamp or dns are, you don't need either
[05:38] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  speech? i never heard no speech.. you refering to savage 1 or 2?
[05:39] <JamesBee1> 1
[05:39] <JamesBee1> it seems like people are saying stuff, but again its really hard to tell cause its broken
[05:39] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: eck He may want all of them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  i dont recall any speech in savage 1.
[05:39] <eck> sm0k3d: just to the base install, and then install what you need after that as you go
[05:39] <meezyfuh> Dr_willis: thx for your help, if i can ever duplicate it i will return!
[05:39] <Taime1> Qt: 3.3.6    KDE: 3.5.5    K3b: 0.12.17
[05:39] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  not that i played it a lot...
[05:40] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  let me load it and see.
[05:40] <gyaresu> Taime1: Yeah. Same as me.
[05:40] <dr-tofu> hey guys
[05:40] <Taime1> k
[05:40] <gyaresu> Taime1: Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling it?
[05:40] <Taime1> yep
[05:40] <gyaresu> Taime1: or dpkg-reconfigure
[05:40] <Taime1> even --purged
[05:40] <gyaresu> Taime1: Odd.
[05:40] <riotkittie> oops. When I have the wireless card in, tty7 functions as it should but tty 1-6 will not come up. while i don't mind using X, i prefer operating outside of it. and being stuck in X grows grating. anyone have any ideas?
[05:40] <Taime1> no, havent tried that dpkg-reconfigure
[05:41] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: ahh ok, and what would DNS do for me?
[05:41] <Odd_Bloke> How can I check what files are owned by a particular package?
[05:41] <james296> ok...someone plz help me out and go to this link, its supposed to  bring me to a HowTo site, but it doesnt...
[05:41] <james296> http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=126&Itemid=63
[05:41] <riotkittie> sigh. at this rate, maybe i should just suck it up and start spending more time in xp :\
[05:41] <eck> riotkittie: that is just strange
[05:41] <james296> HACKED BY iSKORPiTX
[05:41] <james296> thats what it says...
[05:41] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: Handy if you want to 'resolve domainnames' from your server rather than using your ISP's DNS 'server'.
[05:42] <eck> you can't switch to a vt?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> JamesBee1,  hmm - getting no sound at all.. i think i unplugged my speaners when i moved my desk. :()
[05:42] <eck> i think there's a vtswitch command or somethign
[05:42] <JamesBee1> hehe
[05:42] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: ok, thanks for your help
[05:42] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: If you are installing on a spare machine you might want to check out a guide that you can follow from howtoforge. I'll find a link.
[05:42] <dr-tofu> i've been using ubuntu for a good few weeks now, and love it, but today i turned on my laptop and it won't get past the loading screen.
[05:42] <dr-tofu> i have no idea why
[05:43] <Odd_Bloke> dr-tofu: Check if you have anything in your CD/DVD drive.
[05:43] <riotkittie> eck:  i can ALT + CTRL + FKey but all i get is a black screen with nothing beyond a blinking cursor
[05:43] <eck> riotkittie: chvt
[05:43] <omglazers> Anyone know how to go to the TTY in kubuntu?
[05:43] <eck> riotkittie: are your getties running?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  disable the splash screen, (with nosplash) and perhaps use 'nofb' to disable the loading splash screen and see what error messages are showing up
[05:43] <JamesBee1> !HDA
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <riotkittie> eck:  no. theyre not. is there some command i can use to get them running ?
[05:44] <dr-tofu> Dr_willis: in grub?
[05:44] <JamesBee1> anyone know if i there are better sound drivers available?
[05:44] <james296> shute, the whole site gaming.gwos.org says its been hacked :-((
[05:44] <eck> riotkittie: try starting one from your X session, i think it will work
[05:44] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'ctr+alt+F2(F3 etc.)
[05:44] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: yea im installing on a semi-old computer that isnt really used, also i just finished installing the ubuntu on the box.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  yep edit the grub kernel= line and use 'nosplash' and 'nofb'
[05:45] <omglazers> gyaresu: Both of those just change my virtual desktops
[05:45] <eck> riotkittie: something like: /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[05:45] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  i always set those to be the defaults - i HATE that silly loading animation jusst for the reason iot can make trouble shooting hard.
[05:45] <mister_roboto> omglazers: you mean a console?
[05:45] <exs> how do I explore firefoxes cache?
[05:45] <omglazers> mister_roboto: I mean the black and white classic TTY interface
[05:45] <gyaresu> omglazers: 'alt+F2' should but with the control button as well...
[05:45] <eck> virtual terminal
[05:46] <mister_roboto> ctl-alt-f1 through f6
[05:46] <mister_roboto> f7 gets you back to X
[05:46] <omglazers> Doesn't work
[05:46] <riotkittie> eck: executed that. only change is that instead of the blinking cursor, tty1 is now completely black
[05:46] <eck> riotkittie: try stracing it
[05:46] <dr-tofu> ok so if i run grub with nosplash and nofb it will load just fine [in text mode]  but it won't work otherwise.
[05:46] <mister_roboto> omglazers: doesn't work how? what happens when you do it?
[05:47] <eck> see if it looks normal
[05:47] <omglazers> mister_roboto: ctrl+alt f1-f4 just changes virtual desktops
[05:47] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  the nosplash and nofb - will let you see the error messages
[05:47] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  it may be just scannidn the disks and taking a long time
[05:47] <omglazers> FUCK
[05:47] <omglazers> Sorry
[05:47] <omglazers> I got it to work
[05:47] <omglazers> My RIGHT alt+ctrl werent doing it
[05:47] <omglazers> But it worked on my left one
[05:48] <mister_roboto> omglazers:  :)   oh well, at least you got it
[05:48] <dr-tofu> Dr_willis: it never took this long before, but i tried leaving it also
[05:48] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p2 or http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[05:48] <omglazers> Weird. Must be my keyboard
[05:48] <eck> err, if you want to be pedeantic you only need to press ctrl when you are in X
[05:48] <mister_roboto> omglazers: or just some keyboard mapping you have set up
[05:48] <mister_roboto> eck: thanks!
[05:48] <omglazers> mister_roboto: Possible. My keyboard is a weird usb gmaing one, so, who knows
[05:49] <omglazers> mister_roboto: In all likelyhood, it differentiates between r and l ctrls/alts
[05:49] <riotkittie> oh. wait. im dumb. i forgot to sudo it. :P
[05:49] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to turn a folder into a .zip?
[05:49] <eck> omglazers: that is normal behavior
[05:49] <spasticteapot> Or BZ2 or whatever.
[05:49] <dr-tofu> omglazers: that happens to me for key commands in gnome, i can't do right-alt+back to go back in firefox, for example
[05:49] <eck> the kernel makes a distinction between the keys
[05:49] <eck> i think it's one of those legacy unix things that ought to be changed but never will
[05:50] <riotkittie> eck: i cannot thank you enough. youre teh first person to give me a solution in the ~3 months i've been asking that question.
[05:50] <eck> riotkittie: np
[05:50] <eck> riotkittie: they should be set to start in your inittab though
[05:51] <dr-tofu> gnome starts just fine when i boot with nosplash and nofb, then do startx, but if i use my normal setup, the "ubuntu" screen comes up, the progress bar does its thing then the screen goes blank and sits there for hours if i let it..
[05:52] <daft_> hoi
[05:52] <daft_> how can i check what version of a display driver im currently running from the console?
[05:52] <riotkittie> ahh. i feel so much more less naked now.
[05:52] <eck> weird, i guess ubuntu doesn't have an inittab
[05:52] <eck> riotkittie: but i am curious -- what is wrong with an xterm?
[05:54] <DarkX> Hey all, im just wondering has any1 sucessfully ran the dpkg install for HP OpenIPMI
[05:54] <DarkX> cuz im getting compile errors when it trys to compile kern modules
[05:54] <daft_> can anyone help please - I need to know whether im running the proprietary ATI drivers or the stock ones - how can I check it?
[05:55] <DarkX> since im using ubuntu-server on my other box was hoping i could use ubuntu-server and not debian on my Compaq DL380 server
[05:55] <Black^Dragon> got a question
[05:55] <DarkX> but so far im not having any lucky
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> trying to install kvirc on ubuntu
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> getting this error message
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> root@knightcrawler:/home/knightcrawler/kvirc-3.2.0#
[05:56] <Black^Dragon> anyone got an answer??
[05:56] <eck> DarkX: i don't know anything about your question per se, but i would find it odd if it compiles against the debian kernel but not the ubuntu kernel
[05:56] <DarkX> yeah try apt-get install build-essential
[05:56] <DarkX> ;)
[05:57] <kitche> !paste | Black^Dragon
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[05:57] <DarkX> eck: thats what i thought....
[05:57] <Black^Dragon> in the same directory DarkX
[05:57] <Black^Dragon> very very new ti linux
[05:57] <DarkX> Black^Dragon, yea...it will just install GCC G++ and bunch of other stuff needed for compiling
[05:57] <Black^Dragon> ok thank you
[05:57] <gyaresu> Black^Dragon: Have you got the package build-essential installed?
[05:58] <Black^Dragon> new install, and trying to get away from xchat
[05:58] <gyaresu> DarkX: Yeah what you said ^^ :)
[05:58] <riotkittie> eck: err. that's a tough one.
[05:58] <eck> DarkX: i guess you could download an older kernel and see if you can build it against that, and just live with something a little more ancient
[05:58] <larrydavid> can anyone help please - I need to know whether im running the proprietary ATI drivers or the stock ones - how can I check it?
[05:58] <gyaresu> larrydavid: glxinfo
[05:58] <kitche> larrydavid: glxinfo in a terminal
[05:58] <DarkX> eck: HP released a NetInst for SARGE 2.6 kernel...with drivers built into the cd
[05:58] <larrydavid> ta
[05:59] <DarkX> so i may try that ocne i go get some cdrs from walmart
[05:59] <lanaz> lol, upnp isnt working on utorrent, but i still get 4Mb/s upload ;)
[05:59] <eck> DarkX: get the sarge kernel dpkg and install that ;-)
[05:59] <larrydavid> uff bloody mesa
[05:59] <gyaresu> larrydavid: glxinfo |grep ati
[05:59] <riotkittie> eck: i suppose it's not so much there being anything wrong with xterms as it is not seeing a point of running X if all i'm doing is using a term. and for some reason, just finding it easier to keep things seperated.
[05:59] <DarkX> eck: im not so good with DPKG, what do you mean sarge kernel dpkg?
[05:59] <eck> riotkittie: and use an 80 character console?!
[06:00] <_Krull_> Yo everyone
[06:00] <lanaz> Hi
[06:00] <DarkX> next up is to install Ubuntu or Deb on my Sparc 10s and 5s :P
[06:00] <DarkX> thatll be a blow out...
[06:00] <eck> DarkX: just find the sarge kernel .deb and install that, if you're not doing anything too fancy i doubt any of the programs that ubuntu is running will require a really new kernel
[06:00] <Black^Dragon> thank you DarkX, thats installing now
[06:01] <eck> well probably udev
[06:01] <eck> and maybe hal
[06:01] <DarkX> eck: im going to be running VMWare server
[06:01] <DarkX> for running VPS's for clients
[06:01] <DarkX> :s
[06:01] <DarkX> which makes its own kerenel modules
[06:01] <DarkX> *kernel
[06:01] <riotkittie> id probably be more prone to using terms in x if xorg would recognize my card as dual head and let me bask in the beauty of dual screens
[06:02] <eck> well, it's the same in principle, you probably need to use an older kernel (or else refactor the code you are using)
[06:02] <DarkX> anywho thx for the help/ideas eck, im gunna have to do this on 30 racks of servers..this is just test box
[06:02] <DarkX> :X -puke-
[06:02] <eck> DarkX: ouch, good luck
[06:02] <DarkX> yeah..building a datacenter
[06:03] <dr-tofu> Dr_willis: what does nofb specify?
[06:03] <DarkX> n we got 30 racks donated..fully provisioned
[06:03] <eck> and you are running ubuntu? tbh i have not heard of anyone running it in a production environment before
[06:03] <riotkittie> sigh. if only there was a simple fix for my video woes.
[06:04] <DarkX> eck: i used to use it in a small datacenter...we did work for mcdonalds, NFL n bunch of other high profile people
[06:04] <eck> riotkittie: can you use dual head with virtual terminals?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dr-tofu,  no framebuffer. makes sure the system is using a text based console.
[06:04] <DarkX> it served well...but i left there..n they moved the servers out of house
[06:04] <DarkX> fricken idiots didnt know how to maintain a redundant network i built
[06:05] <insider> in what file should i change in order to set a DNS ?
[06:05] <DarkX> insider, /etc/resolv.cofn
[06:05] <omglazers> Hey anyone else have problems installing java from the package manager?
[06:05] <DarkX> *resolv.conf
[06:05] <eck> i don't doubt it would work well, it's just that most people i know of are running rhel or maybe debian stable and don't really _ever_ intend to switch
[06:05] <omglazers> It seems stuck on 30% for me in the terminal emulator
[06:05] <Dr_willis> but resolv.conf is normally created by the networking scripts
[06:05] <eck> such is the life of an admin
[06:05] <gyaresu> insider: DarkX Well that would depend...
[06:05] <DarkX> eck: i like CentOS and debian stable more
[06:06] <DarkX> but i was in a funky experimental mood
[06:06] <DarkX> lol
[06:06] <riotkittie> eck: err. that i do not know. my ancient, dual head ati is only supported in windows
[06:06] <gyaresu> insider: If you just want to asign a sensible name to a lan server then /etc/hosts would do it. If you want to get your DNS requests from a specific machine then /etc/resolv.conf
[06:07] <eck> the company i am interning at uses rhel, but has philosophical objections against the RPM, it is quite a mess :-\
[06:07] <gyaresu> !offtopic
[06:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:08] <eck> sorry
[06:08] <DarkX> sry gyaresu
[06:08] <DarkX> :X
[06:08] <gyaresu> s'aight. You know how noisy it gets in here though.
[06:08] <DarkX> yeah
[06:08] <DarkX> maybe ill stick arround n help out
[06:08] <DarkX> :X
[06:08] <larrydavid> ok, so when im rebuilding the ATI drivers for my new kernel (its just a generic 2.6.17-11 but with PHC Voltage control patched), its saying: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic when I do "sudo module-assistant prepare" - how can I specify that it should just use the generic linux headers?
[06:09] <gyaresu> larrydavid: what's you /usr/src/linux symbolic link pointed at?
[06:09] <larrydavid> um how do i check, sorry
[06:09] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'ls -l /usr/src/linux'
[06:10] <gyaresu> larrydavid: It should be pointing at the linux-headers version you are trying to compile against.
[06:10] <larrydavid> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 35 2007-03-03 16:02 /usr/src/linux -> linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:10] <DarkX>  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[06:10] <DarkX> uname -a
[06:11] <DarkX> make sure the running kernel is the 1 u have the srcs for
[06:11] <DarkX> if they differ...try rebooting....if they still differ...upgrade your source headers
[06:12] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: im following the howto link u sent me, it tells me to edit a file, but how do i save and close the file?
[06:12] <gyaresu> DarkX: I'm not sure we know what larrydavid has done already/ trying to acheive.
[06:12] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: the howtoforge
[06:12] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: Did you say you had a linux machine already installed?
[06:13] <sm0k3d> gyaresu: yea i installed it, it took like 15 min
[06:13] <crookedsoul> hi
[06:13] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: What directions did you use to open the file? vim/vi?
[06:13] <larrydavid> sorry let me explain better - i followed this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UndervoltingHowto to install PHC and then rebuild the kernel
[06:13] <sm0k3d> catchjosh: i used vi
[06:14] <larrydavid> so the kernel i now have is called 2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:14] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: well if you open up a terminal on that machine then you can learn how to use vim (command line text editor) by running the 'vimtutor' command. I'd try that first. I think you need to play around on the installed machine for a bit and learn some basics. IMHO.
[06:14] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: Press escape, and type 'wq' to write and quit.
[06:15] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: Make sure whatever you are writing you have a backup of.
[06:15] <K3nto> does crossover office work well with WoW?
[06:15] <DarkX> larrydavid, thanks for the info..leme see what the link says
[06:15] <larrydavid> ok
[06:15] <DarkX> K3nto, Crossover office doesnt have Acceleration last i remeber...may want to try Cedega
[06:15] <DarkX> Cedega is more geared towards gaming
[06:15] <cwill1> is there any way to make apt pretend that a broken package really isn't?
[06:15] <catchjosh> sm0k3d: If it's a .conf file or something, you can always do a backup by typing the command "cp <filename> <filename>.backup
[06:15] <larrydavid> so basically, that howto worked, ive now rebooted into the new kernel and everything is functioning, but i need to rebuild the ati drivers for this specific kernel
[06:15] <cwill1> i.e., I know its working (as well as I need it to), and I'd like synaptic to stop bugging me about it
[06:16] <cwill1> K3nto: wassup?
[06:16] <sm0k3d> catchjosh: is there like a cheatsheet with common commands like that?
[06:16] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'uname -a'
[06:16] <larrydavid> Linux daft-ASUS 2.6.17-11-fdd-generic #1 SMP Sat Mar 3 14:04:09 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:16] <cwill1> DarkX: crossover and wine have directx acceleration, although its still a work in progress
[06:17] <jcsteele> does anyone know any idea on how to change the default permission of the "right click -> create document -> empty file" process...I have used the "connect to remote server" diaglog boxes to setup a connection to my server VIA ssh, however any and all files I create are "chmod 700"....i would like them to be 755 be default so i dont have to login via ssh and change their permissions.
[06:17] <brussel> My 60 minute cooking timer broke and I'm thinking I could make a bash shell script do the same. How would I make it play a sound though?
[06:17] <cwill1> brussel: play
[06:17] <cwill1> or aplay
[06:17] <DarkX> cwill1, i wasnt aware that Crossover implemented DirectX as of yet...sorry
[06:17] <bronze> launch a media playur
[06:17] <gyaresu> sm0k3d: There is: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/vimcheat.html
[06:17] <brussel> cvill1thanks
[06:17] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'ls -l /usr/src/linux'
[06:17] <omegabeta> Question : Is there a program that will let me dump all the un-used memory? constantly running at about 95% after closing some applications etc and I'm certain it should not be so.
[06:17] <cwill1> DarkX: yep, I've been playing world of warcraft on it for several months :)
[06:17] <DarkX> tight
[06:17] <cwill1> omegabeta: it's normal
[06:17] <gyaresu> larrydavid: (Preface your comments with the persons nick so we see you )
[06:17] <DarkX> i may wipe this box and put ubunut on it
[06:17] <DarkX> i have dual 7300GTs
[06:17] <whosit> Any one having problems with Xorg taking 99.9% of the cpu when you logout? This is on a ATI M200 card?
[06:17] <Flannel> cwill1, DarkX, Wine does WoW just fine.  So, It's not specific to crossover
[06:17] <DarkX> SLI
[06:17] <cwill1> omegabeta: it's using any unused memory for file cache
[06:18] <larrydavid> gyaresu: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 35 2007-03-03 16:02 /usr/src/linux -> linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:18] <cwill1> Flannel: that's what I said :p
[06:18] <Flannel> cwill1: ah, fair enough ;)
[06:18] <linuxfool> Hello
[06:18] <omegabeta> 57% Cache - 38% in use by programs... so thats normal?
[06:18] <cwill1> yep
[06:18] <omegabeta> ok cool
[06:18] <MTecknology> How can I get rid of this?
[06:18] <MTecknology> y> I can't get rid of a package i installed
 E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins_0.1.9999.2~0beryl1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libdbus.so', which is also in package bery
[06:18] <cwill1> omegabeta: unused memory is wasted memory
[06:19] <cwill1> for the most part at least...
[06:19] <larrydavid> gyaresu: if it helps, i compiled the kernel in a directory called ~/undervolt
[06:19] <omegabeta> cwill1: wow, I know nothing =/
[06:19] <Flannel> sm0k3d: http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html  is another good one
[06:19] <gyaresu> larrydavid: The linux-headers seem to be the one you built your new kernel against. So what is the error message now you're trying to build the ati drivers?
[06:20] <xamox> anyone here ever get evolution to sync with google calendar?
[06:20] <DarkX> gyaresu, make sure he has run make clean if he tried to compile on old kern ;)
[06:21] <larrydavid> gyaresu: ok so when i type sudo module-assistant prepare - it gives me: Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-11-fdd-generic
[06:21] <crookedsoul> anyone here manage to get the scrabble package in synaptic to work?
[06:21] <Absorto> hello! Please help me :( I have a SiS motherboard with onboard video and an AGP video card. I changed the setup in the BIOS to make my computer start using the onboard video. Its broken! and I can't get back to the AGP! what can I do?
[06:21] <crookedsoul> if so, can you tell me how, please?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> What does it mean when GRUB just displays the word "GRUB" with no error and hangs?
[06:24] <gyaresu> larrydavid: Hmmm... Try using the module-assistand '-k' option to point it at the headers int the ~/thingy directory where you compiled from.
[06:24] <larrydavid> ah ok thanks
[06:24] <crookedsoul> Absorto: have you tried restoring the bios defaults from the setup menu?
[06:24] <DemisM> hi, shift-backspace is working just like ctrl-alt-backspace how can I get rid of this?
[06:24] <DemisM> I'm using xgl and beryl btw
[06:25] <Absorto> crookedsoul I can't read the setup menu, I can't see it!
[06:25] <Flannel> DemisM: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[06:25] <lineman60> i am haveing a problem with my mouse not being recongesed,  no error in dmseg, lsusb, or var/log/messages any ideas what else to look at?
[06:25] <crookedsoul> you have no display at all?
[06:25] <linuxor> HI, Please, Is there something like recovery genius in linux?
[06:25] <Absorto> crookedsoul no display, at all :(
[06:25] <Flannel> linuxor: what's "recovery genius"?
[06:25] <whosit> Anyone have any help on this, I have a ATI M200 running the ATI driver and when I log out Xorg takes 99.9% of the CPU and the screen goes black, I had to ssh in to see what was going on.
[06:26] <linuxor> Fannel : to recover my system like Ghost
[06:26] <lineman60> whosit, are you useing Beryl or any thing like that?
[06:26] <crookedsoul> Absorto: see this page for a how-to on restoring the bios from the jumpers on the main board http://www.simcreator.com/forums/index.php?s=a0e18f9f3e314201b075be9d6eff7a54&showtopic=14&st=0&#entry17
[06:26] <whosit> yea
[06:26] <whosit> Xgl and berly but it does it when I just run X
[06:26] <lineman60> do you have the ATI dirvers
[06:26] <Absorto> crookedsoul thanks! lemme see
[06:27] <whosit> yes
[06:27] <crookedsoul> Good luck
[06:27] <lineman60> :-(
[06:27] <Aaronb2245> Wheew Heew got Ubuntu 6.06 up and running on my laptop today!! This is def. the best distro I have used to date. Just have to get the sound working
[06:27] <emet> ATI LOL
[06:27] <Flannel> !backup | linuxor
[06:27] <ubotu> linuxor: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:27] <whosit> Hey, it was a free laptop
[06:27] <linuxor> Flannel : yeah
[06:28] <emet> everyone using an ATI card should goto AMD headquarters and do a million man march !
[06:28] <linuxor> ubotu : thx i ll see'm
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx i ll see'm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <lineman60> whosit i went to Nvida becouse of the problem with graphics?
[06:29] <DemisM> any idea why shift-backspace would restart my gdm?
[06:29] <whosit> Im a Nvida fan, I got this laptop for free and it had a ATI (JUNK)
[06:30] <elkbuntu> DemisM, you're running compiz or beryl?
[06:30] <Ltar> whosit I've always favored ATI, although i couldn't right now give you a valid reason why
[06:30] <Ltar> never had any problems, just always used them
[06:30] <DemisM> elkbuntu: yes
[06:30] <gyaresu> !offtopic
[06:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <elkbuntu> DemisM, it's a bug in them
[06:30] <elkbuntu> DemisM, well.. actually really a very annoying 'feature'
[06:31] <Aaronb2245> hum...ctrl+alt+backspace shuts down X maybe thats what you hit?
[06:31] <whosit> Oh well, Ill have to wait till and update comes for either Ubuntu or ATI, I can work around it till then, Xgl does rock tho :)
[06:31] <muzikgoat> so, i'm looking for help on this issue,  when Dapper used to load, I could see my services and modules loading and all that,  since upgrading to Edgy,  that is now gone.   I've been up and down the grub settings and the only thing i can find is quiet boot, but that doesn't change anything that i can see, any suggestions?
[06:31] <ralsheb> if i want to compile a kernel from kernel.org that doesn't have kernel headers in the ubuntu kernel headers package where can i find them?
[06:31] <Flannel> !kernel | ralsheb
[06:31] <ubotu> ralsheb: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:32] <uffda> HELLO
[06:32] <crookedsoul> muzikgoat: are you worried that your services and modules are not there, or just annoyed because you can't see them?
[06:32] <EADG> muzikgoat: change quit to "verbose"
[06:32] <muzikgoat> annoyed
[06:33] <muzikgoat> change quit where?
[06:33] <muzikgoat> is that in menu.lst?
[06:33] <elkbuntu> DemisM, try doing this at command line, or adding it to your beryl session: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[06:33] <EADG> yes
[06:33] <K3nto> !rar
[06:33] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:33] <Flannel> muzikgoat: you need to remove quiet, and add nosplash
[06:33] <Ltar> if i have ubuntu on the master drive in order to back up some files from a slave (with a wanked-up copy of XP), and then switch the master/slave settings in order to appease windows, will linux freak out at having it's HDD priority changed?
[06:33] <Zeke_D> Anyone up for helping me troubleshoot an Ubuntu install?
[06:34] <crookedsoul> what's the prob, Zeke?
[06:34] <larrydavid> gyaresu: when i do that Im getting: Warning, /home/daft/undervolt/linux-source-2.6.17-2.6.17.1 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source
[06:34] <Zeke_D> no network cards detected, I am running a common realtek card
[06:34] <Zeke_D> 8139C i believe
[06:35] <gyaresu> Ltar: 'cat /etc/fstab' you'll possibly see either the UUID= or /dev/hda1 etc...
[06:35] <crookedsoul> h'mm, haven't come across that before, I'll check it out - back in amo....
[06:35] <Zeke_D> kewl
[06:35] <DemisM> elkbuntu: thx that worked
[06:35] <gyaresu> larrydavid: can you change into that folder and 'make oldconfig' then try again.
[06:35] <Ltar> gyaresu: rebotting my new ubuntu now
[06:36] <Ltar> gyaresu: is cat a program similar to Nano?
[06:36] <gyaresu> larrydavid: (This really really isn't right. The source should be in the /usr/src/ dir.
[06:36] <ralsheb> Flannel: i read that but im trying to compile a vanilla kernel from kernel.org for which ubuntu never used that particular kernel version and theres no headers package for it
[06:36] <gyaresu> Ltar: 'man cat'
[06:36] <K3nto> !sh
[06:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:36] <K3nto> how do you install a program downloaded in .sh format?
[06:37] <posingaspopular> yea thanks, that person just pinged me too
[06:37] <elkbuntu> DemisM, it needs to be re-done every time you start the beryl or compiz session, so write it down somewhere
[06:37] <gyaresu> K3nto: 'sh thing.sh' or './thing.sh' (after chmod +x)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> k31th,  sh whatever.sh or bash whatever.sh or chmod +x whatever.sh  ./whatever.sh
[06:37] <EADG> Anybody else looking at this # with Irssi?
[06:37] <DemisM> elkbuntu: i put it on my startup scripts :)
[06:37] <Zeke_D> The cards are not showing up in dmesg either
[06:38] <Flannel> EADG: what?
[06:38] <gyaresu> EADG: yes.
[06:38] <K3nto> okay so i can type "sh XXXXXXX.sh" into the terminal?
[06:38] <_`XeOn_> hello how to mount a FAT32 partition?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> !fat32
[06:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:38] <elkbuntu> DemisM, good :)
[06:38] <gyaresu> K3nto: yes.
[06:38] <larrydavid> gyaresu: hmm nope same problem
[06:38] <K3nto> okay
[06:38] <EADG> Hehe, cool. Just wondering, found it tonight and thought I'd check it out.
[06:38] <muzikgoat> thank you EADG,  i dont see any change,  i changed defoptions=quiet boot   to =nosplash and rebooted,  no change
[06:38] <muzikgoat> running grub-update overwrites that
[06:39] <Flannel> muzikgoat: You need to change them in the top part for all-the-time, instructions ar ein that file on how to perm. change.  Although you can simply edit per bootup for single use
[06:39] <Flannel> muzikgoat: just hit 'e' to edit
[06:39] <gyaresu> larrydavid: right.
[06:39] <daifu1> I have dual boot ubuntu/xp. While in ubuntu I would like to read pdfs files in xp. I have been told to use !NFTS but do not know whether to put the !NTFS command. Is it in terminal?
[06:40] <sm0k3d> wow with 930 people im suprised there isnt more chatter going on
[06:40] <larrydavid> gyaresu: should i try redownloading a new version of the linux headers (linux-headers-2.6.17-11) and pointing it at that?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> sm0k3d,  have patience. :)
[06:40] <muzikgoat> Flannel:  what is the full command?
[06:40] <muzikgoat> just nosplash?
[06:40] <daifu1> I have also copied files from xp into a cd but ubuntu does not read them!!!
[06:41] <gyaresu> larrydavid: Nah. Somehow the linux-headers are not the same ones you compiled against.
[06:41] <sm0k3d> dr_willis: i dont have a question, im just saying that there r 930 people and still it is very very easy to read what every1 is typing in
[06:41] <EADG> muzikgoat: change quiet to verbose.
[06:41] <K3nto> ok i have crossover office, how do i star an already-installed windows app
[06:41] <K3nto> start
[06:41] <cwill1> K3nto: crossover usually makes entries in the menu for you
[06:41] <crookedsoul> Zeke: try this link http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_RTL8168
[06:41] <GaiaX11> What to I need to play    .mov  in ubuntu?
[06:42] <cwill1> although you might need to restart gnome-panel
[06:42] <gyaresu> larrydavid: I may be wrong but you may need to mv the linux-source to /usr/src/ and symbolically link to them (if that makes sense)
[06:42] <K3nto> ok i'll restart
[06:42] <dr-tofu> i can't figure out why i can't start with splash..
[06:42] <Zeke_D> okay
[06:42] <larrydavid> hmm ok, ill give it a shot
[06:42] <Flannel> GaiaX11: thats quicktime
[06:42] <cwill1> K3nto: just killall gnome-panel, and it should come back
[06:42] <crookedsoul> seems like realtek cards are a common problem
[06:42] <ralsheb> anyone know a reposuitory where i can get headers for a 2.6.15 kernel?
[06:42] <larrydavid> gyaresu: worst case scenario i guess i can just recompile the kernel but do it from /usr/src
[06:42] <m4n> hey everybody.  can anyone tell me what I need to install to play audio cds in ubuntu ?
[06:42] <cables> m4n, it's already there.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> m4n,  you mean normal 'music' cd's ?
[06:43] <gyaresu> larrydavid: aye.
[06:43] <Zeke_D> hmmm, my realtek model is not listed there
[06:43] <DarkX> music cds from store or MP3 cds
[06:43] <muzikgoat> EADG: i'm changing #defoptions=quiet boot   to =verbose,  that should be fine?
[06:43] <arrow> I'm looking for a high end printer that I'm going to network, does anyone know a good one that will work seamlessly with ubuntu?
[06:43] <crookedsoul> m4n: you should already have the right programs installed, they are part of the install package
[06:43] <m4n> yes, normal. i dont get any sound output :(
[06:43] <Ltar> .cda, OR a data cd?
[06:43] <m4n> .cda
[06:43] <gyaresu> arrow: http://linuxprinting.org
[06:43] <Flannel> !sound | m4n
[06:43] <crookedsoul> sorry, zeke, no clue
[06:43] <cables> m4n, do you get sound from other apps?
[06:43] <ubotu> m4n: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:43] <larrydavid> gyaresu: okay, moved - how do I link them?
[06:43] <arrow> gyaresy: thx
[06:43] <m4n> cables: yes. mp3 is also working fine
[06:44] <crookedsoul> m4n: do you have 'soundjuice' installed?
[06:44] <m4n> crookedsoul: i tried with xmms and the in built audio cd player
[06:44] <AngryElf> is there a command that will wake a monitor up from sleep?
[06:44] <m4n> crookedsoul: i will check that.
[06:44] <m4n> one sec
[06:44] <daifu1> In a double boot, how do I read files from xp while in ubuntu? Thank.s
[06:44] <megafauna> Hi RealPlayer sounds choppy & static-ee when I stream from the BBC. It works fine in windows. Any advice or suggestions:? /2 weeks of trying to make it run
[06:44] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone gotten Fruity loops or FL studio to work in ubuntu?
[06:44] <pinguim_magico> i'm sorry but someone knows what is hapening whith sources.list and the archives and all ubuntu apt-get stuff?!
[06:45] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g | daifu1
[06:45] <ubotu> daifu1: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:45] <megafauna> daiful: I have a program driver I got from the lifehacker blog that does that, let me find the link
[06:45] <Flannel> pinguim_magico: What's happening?
[06:45] <crookedsoul> what's your confusion, pinguin?
[06:45] <megafauna> daiful: oops, sorry, it works the other way round, from windows to read linux
[06:45] <m4n> crookedsoul: i dont have that package installed. not only that, apt-cache search on soundjuice is not returning anything
[06:45] <crookedsoul> apt-get is just a command for installing packages, but it's easier to use synaptic, becauseit has a nce gui
[06:46] <cwill1> is there any way to make synaptic ignore a broken package?
[06:46] <gyaresu> crookedsoul: Define easier ;)
[06:46] <Tonren> If I configure rtorrent to use a certain port, will it use the same port for TCP and UPD?
[06:46] <larrydavid> gyaresu: okay, moved - how do I link them?
[06:46] <crookedsoul> m4n: do you have automatix/
[06:46] <Tonren> If not, which port does rtorrent use for UDP?
[06:46] <gyaresu> cwill1: That's not a good idea.
[06:46] <m4n> crookedsoul: checking.
[06:46] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone gotten Fruity loops or FL studio to work in ubuntu?
[06:46] <pinguim_magico> Flannel well here in my ubuntu instalation stay waiting don know how many times for the archive.ubuntu.com ... and then errros in apt-get like ... try to install gftp ... and give-me erros like need gftp ... xxx and don`t have this paket and things like this
[06:46] <cwill1> gyaresu: I know, but it's unavoidable until evince 7.0 is backported (if that ever happens)
[06:46] <DemisM> what do I need to play dvd, divxs, mp4s etc?
[06:46] <gyaresu> larrydavid: 'ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-thingy /usr/src/linux'
[06:46] <larrydavid> ta
[06:47] <Dr_willis> DemisM,  thats like 4 different questions. :)
[06:47] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[06:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:47] <cwill1> gyaresu: evince itself works fine though
[06:47] <crookedsoul> demism: songbird is great for mp4s and music
[06:47] <m4n> crookedsoul: same result on that also. not installed and nothing in apt-cache search also
[06:47] <gyaresu> !dvd
[06:47] <K3nto> !crossover
[06:47] <crookedsoul> vcl player for dvds
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <_pb> when connecting vpn what do you type in the location area in nautilus
[06:47] <gyaresu> !restrictedformats | DemisM
[06:47] <ubotu> DemisM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:47] <m1> what's up I can't install the flash player in ubuntu
[06:47] <Flannel> m1: "cant"?
[06:47] <megafauna> daiful: IIRC that is a feature which isn't offically supported by ubuntu. You can buy apps to do that or d/l some OSS ones, but they may not work as they are still in development. http://www.win4lin.com/ will do it but you will have to pay for it.
[06:48] <crookedsoul> install flashplayer through autmatix, its easy
[06:48] <Flannel> crookedsoul: please do not recommend automatix.
[06:48] <megafauna> daiful: there are other solutions too but Idk them.
[06:48] <crookedsoul> why not? It's a great first step for beginners, they can't break anything
[06:48] <m1> I'm doing it through synaptic
[06:48] <Flannel> crookedsoul: because it breaks peoples systems
[06:48] <gyaresu> !works for me | crookedsoul
[06:48] <ubotu> crookedsoul: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:48] <Flannel> !automatix | crookedsoul
[06:48] <ubotu> crookedsoul: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:48] <crookedsoul> it has never broken mine, through 3 distros
[06:48] <K3nto> cwill1: nothing showed up automatically
[06:48] <Flannel> crookedsoul: See !worksforme
[06:48] <gyaresu> crookedsoul: ^^
[06:49] <m1> but it says everytime  that installation failed by somewhat
[06:49] <EADG> That should get you seeing _everything_ during boot up.
[06:49] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone gotten Fruity loops or FL studio to work in ubuntu?
[06:49] <cwill1> K3nto:  :/;  what did you install?
[06:49] <DemisM> what do you guys recommend for playing dvds and movie media files?
[06:49] <K3nto> WoW
[06:49] <Zeke_D> crookedsoul: Looks like drivers are at http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=6&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false I just need to figure out how to install or recompile
[06:49] <Flannel> crookedsoul: if you want to dance with death, that's fine.  But please don't recommend it
[06:49] <_pb> i am connected via vpn , however want to browse the vpn server shares what do you type in the location in nautilus?
[06:49] <colbert> DemisM: VLC Player
[06:49] <ralsheb> anyone know where i can find kernel headers for kernerls that aren't in ubuntu's package?
[06:49] <m1> it says installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[06:49] <megafauna> Hi RealPlayer sounds choppy & static-ee when I stream from the BBC. It works fine in windows. Any advice or suggestions:? /2 weeks of trying to make it run
[06:50] <gyaresu> DemisM: mplayer from the command line.
[06:50] <Comrade-Sergei> Has any one heard of FL Studio?
[06:50] <Ltar> ubuntu reminds me of debian
[06:50] <LaGGed> ...
[06:50] <Ltar> what... are the most significant differences?
[06:50] <LaGGed> you would think so since it's a debian fork
[06:51] <Ltar> LaGGed: yeah
[06:51] <K3nto> cwill1: is it because the install is in a hidden folder?
[06:51] <pete> Ltar, the most significant difference is that Ubuntu has releases
[06:51] <gyaresu> !offtopic
[06:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:51] <m1> :/
[06:51] <cwill1> K3nto: no, crossover usually generates the menu items automatically (they'd be under windows apps, or crossover)
[06:51] <m1> weird
[06:51] <pinguim_magico> Flanneli change from the archive and add some country in the first and it works ... but the default ubuntu instalation is not working ... :X
[06:52] <K3nto> ok so i can just move the install folder into crossover?
[06:52] <cwill1> K3nto: should be able to double click the file from Program Files, assuming crossover has that option enabled, otherwise, wine <path to file> should work
[06:52] <m1> I think that I had installed flash player using ubuntu 6.10 livecd
[06:52] <pinguim_magico> lol 3 weeks thinking why this don`t work and now in 5 minuts i resolve the problem o0 0o ubealiver ... :\
[06:52] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: looks like FL Studio is a windows application
[06:52] <j-red> Hey guys, I need some help with getting my printer working. I've been using this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 and so far it has been working. Once I got to the alien command though, I got a message saying that there is no alien command
[06:53] <pete> j-red: sudo apt-get install alien
[06:53] <Comrade-Sergei> preaction yes i know i cannot get crossover or cedega to run it and wine crashes when i open something what can be done
[06:53] <K3nto> ok
[06:53] <dr-tofu> when i have grub run with "verbose splash", it hangs after "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)      [ ok ] "
[06:53] <muzikgoat> so i changed it to verbose, instead of quiet splash,  and its not specifically what i was going for.   its better,  but does anyone know how to get the same splash as dapper used to have?
[06:53] <omegabeta> Question : Where can I get really cool looking system health display sidebars? not the gdesklet ones though, their heaps tacky..
[06:54] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: to run it? nothing. to help wine figure out why it cant be run? don't know, try running in a terminal and see the debug output
[06:54] <j-red> I didn't know I had to install alien before i did that, I thought it was just one of the commands. I'm sort of new to Ubuntu
[06:54] <gyaresu> omegabeta: I use conky but that's not very 'pretty'.
[06:54] <Comrade-Sergei> preaction ill paste bin it, its quite long
[06:54] <Flannel> omegabeta: conky is probably what youd like
[06:54] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: it has absolutely no use to me, give it to the wine developers
[06:54] <gyaresu> omegabeta: alien will install (redhat style) rpms into a debian (.deb) machine.
[06:55] <j-red> say what about alien?
[06:55] <Comrade-Sergei> preaction ok how can i tell them?
[06:55] <omegabeta> I have sysinfo, Htop, Hardinfo, Xcensors and MGM sys monitor.. not happy with any of them in terms of "I want to leave this open to see"
[06:55] <larrydavid> gyaresu: figured it out - the howto didnt tell me to dpkg -i the headers from the build :/
[06:56] <gyaresu> larrydavid: voila!
[06:56] <dr-tofu> what happens right after ubuntu runs boot scripts?
[06:56] <larrydavid> thanks for your help
[06:56] <gyaresu> larrydavid: no problem.
[06:56] <preaction> Comrade-Sergei: here's what google gives you: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7036
[06:57] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[06:57] <whosit> I have a ATI M200 card with the ATI drivers, when ever I logout Xorg takes 99.9% of the CPU, I had to ssh in to see what was going on, any help?
[06:58] <j-red> still following that page and when I type in "sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C" I get "tar: option requires an argument -- C
[06:58] <j-red> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[06:58] <j-red> "
[06:58] <gyaresu> omegabeta: dstat
[06:58] <Jordan_U> When I boot I just get a screen saying "GRUB" and it hangs there
[06:58] <j-red> anyone know why?
[06:58] <pete> try a - infront of xvzf
[06:59] <gago0021> hello all.. how does one know if php is already installed in the system and is working?
[06:59] <omegabeta> argg.. "Steam is updating" - Its definaltly working.. cause WoW works perfectly, question is.. where did it go =/... I cant see it anywhere but it running cause I cant run another
[06:59] <j-red> I did...
[06:59] <j-red> I'll try again
[06:59] <omegabeta> gyaresu: cheers, will look in to it
[06:59] <Flannel> gago0021: dpkg -l | grep php, will tell you what's installed
[06:59] <gyaresu> omegabeta: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/dstat/
[06:59] <m1> how I input characters in ubuntu like doing it in windows through numerical ascii codes
[06:59] <gago0021> flannel: thanks will try that now
[06:59] <Tonren> If I configure rtorrent to use a certain port, will it use the same port for TCP and UDP?  If not, what's the UDP port that it uses?
[06:59] <j-red> nope.
[07:00] <j-red> - infront of xvzf doesn't help
[07:00] <joeyk_> m1,  not sure i follow
[07:00] <milosevic> Fellows, i just installed ubuntu, and now i'm trying to compile a simple c program: #include <stdio.h> int main(puts("Hello");}, but gcc is not finding stdio.h, do you know why?
[07:00] <K3nto> cwill1: its not working
[07:00] <pete> ml: start menu> Applications > Accessories > Character Map
[07:00] <Flannel> milosevic: install "build-essential"
[07:00] <milosevic> build-essential?
[07:00] <Flannel> milosevic: yes, the package
[07:00] <milosevic> thanks a lot man
[07:00] <milosevic> bless you
[07:00] <milosevic> :D
[07:00] <m1> I'm using a latinamerican keyboard layout and I can't input some characters of the english keyboard layout
[07:00] <pete> J-red: can you paste exactly what you typed?
[07:01] <j-red>  sudo tar -xvzf z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C
[07:01] <gyaresu> j-red: -C requires an argument.
[07:01] <j-red> oh wait..
[07:01] <j-red> I think I missed a / at the end
[07:01] <gyaresu> j-red: -C /thing/stuff
[07:01] <j-red> yeah
[07:01] <j-red> I just realized :(
[07:01] <gyaresu> j-red: better than not :)
[07:01] <j-red> yup :) the comments on the page that I'm following are messing me up there :(
[07:02] <ofeigsfjardt> Can anyone help me with my soundcard? alsamixer reports "snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". I think that I don't have a module loaded for my soundcard. Any ideas?
[07:02] <milosevic> Flannel ; the add/remove applications doesn't have a build-essential package
[07:02] <techie> Could someone give me the link for the ntfs driver so that I can read from a dual boot ubuntu and xp?
[07:02] <green> so does anyone know how feisty is going to be?
[07:02] <milosevic> do you know how i can install it manually?
[07:02] <Flannel> milosevic: open up synaptic
[07:02] <preaction> !ntfs-3g > techie
[07:02] <sdlvx> hey guys i have a quick question
[07:02] <j-red> I'm used to / bieng part of the start of the comment because of web development
[07:02] <sdlvx> how do i start KDE from terminal?
[07:02] <dr-tofu> i haven't had problems with ubuntu since i got it a few weeks ago, and all of a sudden, it will stop booting right after "Running local boot scripts".. it will start fine if i boot to text mode and startx... i have no idea why
[07:02] <Flannel> milosevic: Add/Remove is a dumbed down interface.  Synaptic is what you want.
[07:02] <m4n> Flannel: any more suggestions for my audio cd problem ?  i can play mp3
[07:02] <Flannel> green: Feisty in #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <gago0021> flannel: thanks seems php is installed
[07:03] <omegabeta> krull1
[07:03] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: 'asoundconf list'
[07:03] <preaction> sdlvx: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:03] <gyaresu> sdlvx: ^^ what he said.
[07:03] <milosevic> Flannel ; synaptic also didn't find a package named build-essentials
[07:03] <green> i tried running fedora 6 and dapper together but ubuntu would'nt see fedora
[07:03] <Flannel> milosevic: Er... No 's'
[07:03] <preaction> milosevic: build-essential
[07:03] <milosevic> hm build-essential
[07:03] <joeyk_> dr-tofu, is it possible gdm could be messed up
[07:04] <milosevic> yeah there you go
[07:04] <sdlvx> thank you ver much preaction
[07:04] <sdlvx> i appreciate it
[07:04] <dr-tofu> joeyk_: i barely know what i'm doing here, maybe?
[07:04] <gago0021> im creating a website right now.. i used phps include function. however when i test it. apache says this Warning: include() [function.include] : Failed opening 'php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/index.php on line 1 what does that mean??
[07:04] <milosevic> very impressive... much easier than slackware :D
[07:04] <preaction> gago0021: ask ##php
[07:04] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: I've had problems with 'kdm'. Could it be that?
[07:04] <preaction> milosevic: but slackware combats slack! hail Bob!
[07:04] <gago0021> preaction: ok will do thanks
[07:04] <ofeigsfjardt> Can anyone help me with my soundcard? alsamixer reports "snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". I think that I don't have a module loaded for my soundcard. Any ideas?
[07:05] <m1> I just can't put the character @ with my kbd layout
[07:05] <techie> when I copy !ntfs-3g on terminal it tells me bash:!ntfs-3g; event not found...... what does that mean? or Am i putting that command on the wrong place?
[07:05] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: 'asoundconf list'
[07:05] <preaction> techie: ubotu should've messaged you something
[07:05] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | techie
[07:05] <ubotu> techie: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:05] <milosevic> guys i also need vmware-player, or something like that (just to run virtual machines, not to build'em).. do you know what i need?
[07:06] <pete> m1: can you solve this by going to Applications>Accessories>Character Map
[07:06] <green> i'll take it i need aa  ati video card instead of via to run beryl?
[07:06] <techie> I guess I must download the driver as in lunapark6 link. i will try that
[07:06] <whosit> Green, you need XGL ATI Or Nvidia.
[07:06] <green> ok ty
[07:07] <m1> yeah but it's very unpractical
[07:07] <j-red> whoa... read/write acces to NTFS partitions? Does that mean that I would be able to get some of the files off of my windows partition and save files there from Ubuntu?
[07:07] <thesUb-ZeRo> j-red: yes, exactly
[07:07] <K3nto> cwill1: can you help me with crossover?
[07:07] <m1> I need a way to put symbols like doing alt+#
[07:07] <m1> in windows
[07:07] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: no it appears to be the gdm
[07:07] <j-red> cool.
[07:07] <K3nto> can somebody help me with crossover?
[07:07] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Have you had a look at 'dmesg' and 'less /var/log/messages' ?
[07:07] <techie> is ubuntu 610 also called edgy?
[07:08] <ToddEDM> hey, im using the live CD and i need to get sound working..... can anyone help me?
[07:08] <K3nto> techie: yes
[07:08] <preaction> techie: yes
[07:08] <techie> <K3nto thanks.
[07:08] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: what kind of soundcard do you have?
[07:08] <milosevic> where should i put a script that should be executed everytime i boot?
[07:08] <ToddEDM> dunno really its just in my laptop
[07:08] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: 'asoundconf list'
[07:09] <j-red> on the page that I'm following (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714)theres a part in the first post saying "if you get no output,mount the usb filesystem..." I don't quite understand what I'm supposed to do. Someone please explain?
[07:09] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: it did nothing :/
[07:09] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: do "lspci" in the terminal
[07:09] <ToddEDM> ok it just says Nvidia
[07:09] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: then the right drivers aren't loaded. 'lspci'
[07:09] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: do lspci
[07:10] <dr-tofu> milosevic: boot scripts seem to be in /etc/rc.local, check google with that name? i could be horribly wrong
[07:10] <thesUb-ZeRo> ToddEDM: what's the output for the name of a soundcard?
[07:10] <ToddEDM> nvidia mcp51
[07:10] <arrow> Does anyone know of a script or a program that will make a text document with the names of all my folders in a certain directory?
[07:10] <j-red> on the page that I'm following (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714)theres a part in the first post saying "if you get no output,mount the usb filesystem..." I don't quite understand what I'm supposed to do. Someone please explain?
[07:10] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: milosevic you can put commands (one per line) in the file /etc/rc.local
[07:10] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: ok, so now what? i think i found what the device is
[07:10] <preaction> arrow: ls > filename
[07:11] <preaction> arrow: > means "redirect output to a file"
[07:11] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: Could you post the one line that refers to the sound chip please.
[07:11] <pavs> since YAST is open source has yast or anything like that been ported to ubuntu?
[07:11] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: last thing dmesg says is "apm: BIOS not found."
[07:12] <j-red> anyone?
[07:12] <preaction> pavs: i believe Yast is SuSE's package manager, correct? ubuntu uses APT
[07:12] <pete> j-red: I think he means that you mount the usb filesystem by editing fstab in the way that he says to in the next line
[07:12] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: old computer?
[07:12] <arrow> preaction: I was thinking an entire script already written, or a guide on how to write one (i've never done it before)
[07:12] <ac> hi
[07:12] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: relatively new laptop
[07:12] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: a year old maybe two
[07:12] <j-red> excuse my idiocy but how exactly do I "mount the usb filesystem" ?
[07:12] <ac> I'm a new user of ubuntu
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !mount
[07:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:12] <Jordan_U> My computer no longer boots
[07:12] <ToddEDM> if i go into  system>preferences>sound>sound properties... i see my card listed
[07:12] <ac> I wonder if someone can help me pleas
[07:13] <Araelius> greetings all
[07:13] <preaction> arrow: open a terminal. cd to the appropriate directory, and type "ls > filename", then "filename" in that directory will contain a list of all the files/folders in that directory
[07:13] <ToddEDM> HDA Nvidia
[07:13] <ac> i have a problem with my ps2 mouse
[07:13] <thesUb-ZeRo> ac: whats the questiojn?
[07:13] <arrow> preaction: thanks
[07:13] <ac> it doesn't work
[07:13] <pavs> preaction yes YAST is for sure, but it has a front-end gui for server/hardware-devince configuration, APT has such a flexible GUI?
[07:13] <thesUb-ZeRo> ac: get a usb mouse
[07:13] <pete> j-red: He explains this in the two lines after where he tells you to "mount the usb filesystem": i.e. "Add this to your /etc/fstab file"
[07:13] <preaction> pavs: Synaptic Package Manager is a GUI frontend to APT
[07:13] <K3nto> could somebody help me with crossover? i already installed a windows application with wine, and i later installed crosover. how do i use crossover to strt the program
[07:13] <ac> another suggestion?
[07:14] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: hmmm. Have you had a look for other peoples guides for that model. From http://www.linux-laptop.net/ for example?
[07:14] <ToddEDM> could someone help me get my sound working >???
[07:14] <dr-tofu> i've never had a problem with GDM until today..
[07:14] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: or even the ubuntu forums/wiki
[07:15] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Did you update/upgrade any packages?
[07:15] <j-red> I got a "mount: can't find usbfs in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:15] <Araelius> I just posted on the forums, but being the impatiant person I am I thought I would ask here, anyway I am wondering if it is possible to dual boot xp and ubuntu using 2 seprate hard drives and if so how is it done?
[07:15] <thesUb-ZeRo> yes, it is possible
[07:15] <thesUb-ZeRo> very very easy
[07:15] <preaction> Araelius: install grub on your boot hard drive's MBR
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Araelius,  i do it all the time.. i have several  disrtos on their own hd's
[07:15] <pete> j-red: did you add the line "usbfs         /proc/bus/usb usbfs   devgid=14,devmode=0660 0 0" to /etc/fstab first??
[07:16] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: maybe.. i was playing around with the wrt54g firmware source and i had to get a few thigns to build it, but i think i've restarted fine since then
[07:16] <ToddEDM> Araelius:  i got it done, and im a total newb
[07:16] <pavs> preaction YAST is more that downloading and installing fro reps, it actually configure services ie, apache, samba, firewall settings, hardware-devices. AFAIK synaptic doesnt do that.
[07:16] <j-red> I think so?
[07:16] <gyaresu> Araelius: If you've got an XP install already then install ubuntu to the second drive and you'll be fine.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Araelius,  grub is very good at doing that.
[07:16] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: I think this is it: 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 02)
[07:16] <gago0021> how can i change my keyboard setup? i mistakenly set it up during installation. it is just a generic keyboard. but to type a quote and unquote symbol, i have to hit the key for it 2 times while pressing shift key. i tried changing it in the keyboard preferences section but nothing happens. what should i do?
[07:16] <Araelius> ok, thanks guys
[07:16] <pete> j-red: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:16] <globe> do I really have to restart my computer after disabling ipv6 support ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 )?  I thought restarting was a windows-ism...
[07:16] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: no. Look for something that sa... just pastebin the output.
[07:17] <ToddEDM> so could someone take some time and help me with me no sound issue?
[07:17] <kalorin> weird
[07:17] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: ello.
[07:17] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: is there a way to find out what might be stopping gdm from loading?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> the X logs
[07:17] <kalorin> every time the screen saver kicks on I come back and it's turned off the checkbox to let xfce manage the desktop
[07:17] <j-red> so I just copy the line into that file?
[07:17] <kalorin> so the files on the desktop disappear until i turn that back on
[07:17] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: http://dpaste.com/6359/
[07:17] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  i have no sound.... how do i get ti to work
[07:18] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: 'cat /var/log/gdm.log'
[07:18] <pete> j-red: yeah
[07:18] <K3nto> !bottle
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <Araelius> anyway, the main issue I can't dual boot on my main drive is what I believe to be a hard drive issue, I have run chkdsk and defragged but I still seem to have issues, any ideas?
[07:18] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: Could you please post the output of 'lspci' in a pastebin?
[07:18] <yomm> How can I set up my (unrecognized) keyboard volume & other keys to work on edgy ?
[07:18] <Araelius> thhe main reason*
[07:18] <Araelius> the*
[07:18] <preaction> Araelius: which did you install first? XP or Ubuntu?
[07:18] <ToddEDM> gyaresu: , ummmm huh>?
[07:18] <ToddEDM> 'i dont know what that is
[07:18] <gyaresu> !pastebin | ToddEDM
[07:18] <ubotu> ToddEDM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <ToddEDM> pastebin
[07:19] <Araelius> xp
[07:19] <Araelius> ntfs is the filesystem
[07:19] <ToddEDM> ok
[07:19] <preaction> Araelius: and when the Ubuntu installer asked you about the bootloader (GRUB) what did you tell it?
[07:19] <Araelius> at first i assumed it was fragmentation but that wasn't the case
[07:19] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: So open up a terminal. Then run the command 'lspci'.
[07:19] <thesUb-ZeRo> gyaresu: i have tried to tell him that....
[07:19] <Araelius> i get as far as manually editing the partition
[07:20] <gyaresu> thesUb-ZeRo: I'll take it from here then ;)
[07:20] <j-red> that didn't seem to help :(
[07:20] <j-red> my printer still isn't printing
[07:20] <Araelius> after giving it a go it stops and says there is an issue with the filesystem on the hard drive and I should check for errors
[07:20] <j-red> anyone have any idea how to set up a Lexmark z515 ?
[07:20] <preaction> Araelius: so you haven't even installed it yet? did you tell ubuntu to use the correct hard drive?
[07:21] <gyaresu> j-red: Did you go to linux-printing.org?
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> j-red: yeah, set it up on a cinderblock, get another cinder-block and make a sandwhich
[07:21] <Araelius> yes, I have actually installed Ubuntu many times before, this is the only time I have run into an issue
[07:21] <j-red> lol
[07:21] <j-red> not yet.
[07:21] <Araelius> also, no it isn't installed yet :)
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: so you cant boot into window?
[07:21] <Araelius> I can
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: then what is wrong?
[07:21] <Araelius> everything works fine, but I can't partition
[07:21] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: partition what, with what?
[07:21] <gyaresu> j-red: http://linuxprinting.org (no hyphen)
[07:21] <dr-tofu> can i aptitude remove & aptitude install [ to reinstall, duno how else to.. ]  gdm?
[07:21] <preaction> Araelius: i meant THIS TIME. are you telling it that it can use the entire hard drive? that it can format as ext3?
[07:22] <ToddEDM> ok Araelius ,  i pasted it
[07:22] <j-red> whats the difference?
[07:22] <preaction> ToddEDM: what's the URL to the paste?
[07:22] <Araelius> i try to manually edit the partion of the main drive
[07:22] <thesUb-ZeRo> preaction: lol
[07:22] <ToddEDM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8336/
[07:22] <Araelius> partition*
[07:22] <happytron> what's the best way to write a bash script that recursively applies a command to every file in a subdirectory?
[07:22] <K3nto> im having problems running a windows application with crossover. its freezing
[07:22] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: you cant mess with ntfs partitions soo far with gparted
[07:23] <gyaresu> happytron: 'man bash'
[07:23] <thesUb-ZeRo> Araelius: you cant shrink ntfs i think
[07:23] <Araelius> really, I am sure i have done it before
[07:23] <Ltar> what is X?
[07:23] <Araelius> maybe it was fat32 previously
[07:23] <gyaresu> thesUb-ZeRo: Yes. Just use a livecd with gparted.
[07:23] <preaction> Araelius: ntfs writing is still experimental, which is required for resizing
[07:23] <ohnonoagain> hi
[07:23] <starscalling> well.
[07:24] <gyaresu> Ltar: X11 is the makes graphics possible. A window manager makes somewhere for programmes to hang out.
[07:24] <j-red> it is telling me to install the 2 RPMS that I thinkI just installed.
[07:24] <techie> i followed the instructions for adding the ntfs-3g and instructions from link but do not get any results. somehow everything is just there on the terminal. could I post in here so that you can tell me what is wrong?
[07:24] <Araelius> really, I have used this system for years, I assumed it was always ntfs, but I guess it must have been fat32
[07:24] <j-red> how exactly am I supposed to install them?
[07:24] <herpez>  hi. i have an ATI x700 and when runnning beryl, it says "beryl: No composite extension" , but i cant enable composite in xorg.conf cause otherwise the ati driver dont load. How can i solve this?
[07:24] <happytron> that's a pretty lame answer
[07:24] <m1> I cant install flash player in edgy :
[07:24] <gyaresu> !pastebin | techie
[07:24] <ubotu> techie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <m1> aargh
[07:24] <Araelius> i recently tried Vista on a fresh intall, maybe that had some effect when I reinstalled xp
[07:24] <Flannel> m1: what error are you getting?
[07:24] <gyaresu> techie: Let's have a look.
[07:25] <Bsew64> Hie People, where woud one likely find a person who could setup on our soon to be T1 linue with Debian or possible the unbunto    with cpanel.net software  is south florida area?
[07:25] <ohnonoagain> i have vlc but cannot play files that are on a windows pc on the network i can play them if they are stored on the ubuntu machine, any ideas?
[07:25] <techie> gyaresu can I do that even though I am out of the terminal.
[07:25] <ToddEDM> Araelius: see anything on thatpaste?
[07:25] <techie> meaning just go back to terminal and put tht command you gave me?
[07:25] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[07:25] <j-red> I already have the 2 rpms that it says to install. How do I install them?
[07:26] <Araelius> nothing
[07:26] <ToddEDM> yes, thats my audio card
[07:26] <m1> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[07:26] <NETWizz> My battery indicator sucks
[07:26] <gyaresu> techie: Can you copy paste into a pastebin?
[07:26] <NETWizz> WHat is wrong with the Ubuntu battery indicator?
[07:26] <Araelius> ok, I know for sure you can't change ntfs to fat32 unkess you format, am I correct in this assumption
[07:26] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: 'uname -a'
[07:26] <techie> gksu ntfs-config how do I find it since I am out of the terminal. do I repeat all the commands in here?
[07:26] <Flannel> j-red: help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto but find debs if y can
[07:26] <Araelius> unless*
[07:26] <SEJeff> Araelius: yes
[07:26] <Flannel> m1: what were you doing when you got that error?
[07:26] <j-red> debs? I'm really stupid with this stiff
[07:27] <m1> I was using gaim and firefox
[07:27] <ToddEDM> Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:27] <m1> nothing more
[07:27] <Flannel> j-red: instead of rpms (.rpm) Ubuntu uses deb (.deb)
[07:27] <ohnonoagain> anyone use vlc to play avi files across the network?
[07:27] <gyaresu> techie: why are you running ntfs-config?
[07:27] <Flannel> m1: er... so, How did you tell your computer to try and get flash?
[07:27] <Araelius> hmm, i just can't believe I changed the filesystem without knowing, well thanks for the help, you have saved me amny hours of frustration
[07:27] <j-red> oh ok
[07:27] <NETWizz> Hello
[07:27] <Araelius> many*
[07:27] <Flannel> j-red: Which program(s) are you installing?
[07:27] <gyaresu> techie: Do you have a terminal open on the machine you are working on?
[07:27] <m1> using psynaptic
[07:27] <j-red> I'm trying to get my printer working
[07:27] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: http://dpaste.com/6359/ don't want to bug because i see that you are helpging someone else, but i just wanted to see if you got the message
[07:27] <NETWizz> My Ubuntu batery meter says 60% remaining 3 minutes
[07:27] <Araelius> I will just give the 2 seprate hard drives install a shot
[07:27] <NETWizz> Why does it shutdown on me?
[07:27] <techie> gyaresu I wanted to read my pds files I have in xp and read them from ubuntu
[07:28] <NETWizz> Widnows runs for about 5 hours on battery
[07:28] <NETWizz> Ubuntu runs for about 5 mintues
[07:28] <Flannel> m1: So, You weren't "just" using firefox and gaim, eh?  So, what package were you installing in synaptic?
[07:28] <SurfnKid> !w32codecs
[07:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:28] <NETWizz> but the laptop then has plenty of power to boot up
[07:28] <SurfnKid> !Codecs
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <techie> gyaresu the terminal is open now
[07:28] <gyaresu> techie: Did you install ntfs-3g?
[07:28] <ToddEDM> Araelius: Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <m1> nonfree-flash
[07:28] <m1> or something called so
[07:28] <Araelius> going to give it a shot, see you guys in abit to bother you some more
[07:28] <Araelius> :)
[07:28] <j-red> the 2 rpms are called z600cups-2.0-2.i386.rpm and z600llpddk-2.0-1.i386.rpm
[07:28] <techie> <gyaresu i do not know whether they are installed or not
[07:28] <m1> flashplugin-nonfree
[07:28] <SEJeff> NETWizz: That is because of this thing called ACPI and different vendors implement it differently. Most of them are broken and they "fix" it by letting microsoft know how to hack around it.
[07:29] <Flannel> j-red: er... what programs are those?  cups... and llpddk? or what?
[07:29] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: No problem. You don't have a sound card installed. Maybe it's turned off in the bios.
[07:29] <SEJeff> NETWizz: Let me guess, you are using a newer laptop? Also, this is one of those things you can ignore. It will be fixed in time
[07:29] <NETWizz> My notbook isn't that new
[07:29] <j-red> those are 2 rpms that came frmo the lexmark z600 (not sure of model number) driver that are supposed to let me set up my lexmark z515 printer
[07:29] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: i didn't see anything about it in the bios
[07:29] <NETWizz> It is a Core 2, Dell that is over 3 months old
[07:30] <gyaresu> techie: 'apt-get install ntfs-3g'
[07:30] <techie> gyaresu I have a bunch of or a list in my terminal right now.
[07:30] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: Is it the onboard sound or a card? Could it be broken?
[07:30] <gyaresu> techie: Sorry what?
[07:30] <Flannel> j-red: ah, alright.  SEe this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[07:30] <ToddEDM> my card isnt broken, just in ubuntu
[07:30] <j-red> yeah
[07:30] <SEJeff> techie: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config is the right command
[07:31] <SEJeff> techie: Are you very new to Linux?
[07:31] <Flannel> m1: alright, You're on dapper or edgy?
[07:31] <gyaresu> SEJeff: ntfs-config?
[07:31] <m1> edgy
[07:31] <gyaresu> SEJeff: you'what?
[07:31] <dr-tofu> concerning my earlier issue: there appears to be nothing wrong with gdm, as i reinstalled it and am still having the same issue
[07:32] <techie> yes very new... this is what i see there now.
[07:32] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Try kdm for a short term fix then.
[07:32] <techie> main restricted universe multiverse
[07:32] <techie> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:32] <techie> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[07:32] <techie> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted
[07:32] <techie> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe
[07:32] <techie> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe
[07:32] <techie> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
[07:32] <techie> wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[07:32] <techie> sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <techie> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:32] <Flannel> !paste | techie
[07:32] <ubotu> techie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <techie> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[07:32] <techie> gksu ntfs-config
[07:32] <gyaresu> techie: We did mention !pastebin
[07:32] <techie> yes
[07:32] <NETWizz> You are spamming
[07:32] <SEJeff> gyaresu: http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: download this file: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1_i386.deb
[07:33] <SEJeff> techie: ok, minimize the terminal and go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: (you'll want flash9 anyway)
[07:33] <m1> I think that I had installed flash before in the edgy desktopcd live
[07:33] <techie> gyaresu so what is going on?
[07:33] <SEJeff> techie: This way will be less frightening to you :)
[07:33] <m1> but don't remember how
[07:33] <m1> yeah
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: Whatever you do on the liveCD will have no affect on the system you installed
[07:33] <gyaresu> SEJeff: Thank you. I'm not into boxes so it's good to have someone like yourself around to make it easier for folks.
[07:33] <m1> yeah I know
[07:33] <Mythmon> ive got a question, if i were to put a secondary harddrive in a windows box could i dual boot ubuntu, and have ubuntu on the second drive, without messing with the windows install?
[07:33] <ToddEDM> gyaresu: lol sorry i was calling you Ayabara
[07:33] <Flannel> m1: then once you've downloaded that, double click it, or browse to it, and `sudo dpkg -i [filename] `
[07:33] <SEJeff> gyaresu: boxes?
[07:34] <mackinac> Mythmon:   yes, thats what i do
[07:34] <gyaresu> SEJeff: Gui's n things.
[07:34] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  here is a paste for you :Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:34] <m1> I will try it
[07:34] <SEJeff> gyaresu: I am a 'nix sysadmin :)
[07:34] <Mythmon> alright, cause i want to install ubuntu, but i need to have windows
[07:34] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: after apt-get install kdm, what can i do to set it as the default instead of gnome?
[07:34] <SEJeff> techie: Do you have Synaptic open? This is easy to do and I'm going to walk you through it
[07:34] <gyaresu> SEJeff: Who happens to know about pretty boxes for 'humans'
[07:34] <mackinac> Mythmon:   they can be on the same drive too
[07:35] <ToddEDM> so i still need a lil help with getting my sound working
[07:35] <bugnthecode> I've been at this for hours and haven't seemed to make any progress. My table touchscreeen was working a earlier today, and now it's not. Anyone have experience with these?
[07:35] <Mythmon> ive tried that, and it didnt end well when i tried to take the linux off (space issues)
[07:35] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: as you install it one of the questions should be regarding just that...
[07:35] <SEJeff> gyaresu: Unix is friendly. It just picks who it will be friends with -somewhere from the internet
[07:36] <mackinac> Mythmon:   anyhow, I prefer the 2nd drive option myself :)
[07:36] <brokenarrow> lol
[07:36] <m1> I'm in the download page of flash but opera doesn't appear in the list
[07:36] <ryan8403> hello
[07:36] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: right.
[07:36] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: onboard. i think it could be working. at least when i plug them in i can get normal pc speaker noises (beaps from the terminal and such)
[07:36] <j-red> so that I can clarify, is dapper 6.06 and edgy 6.10 ?
[07:36] <Flannel> j-red: correct
[07:36] <m1> only firefox, seamonkey and mozilla
[07:36] <j-red> ok thanks :)
[07:36] <me2win> anyone know how to add an item to startup in KDE?
[07:36] <techie> gyaresu is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8337/
[07:36] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: your lspci bets to differ. 'asound list' gave you nothing right?
[07:36] <ryan8403> I'm trying to play a dvd on my desktop followed the instructions from the support site but its still a no go
[07:37] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: yeah nothing
[07:37] <gyaresu> techie: I think SEJeff was going to help you with that. If I'm wrong let me know.
[07:37] <ryan8403> its like totem doesn't recognize the dvd since I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[07:37] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: So I still say that there is no device relating to a sound card detected in that machine.
[07:37] <techie> I have not spoken to a jeff
[07:37] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: sorry.
[07:37] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:  dont you lose your train of thought with so many questuions comin at you ?
[07:37] <SEJeff> techie: System --> Administration --> Synaptic
[07:38] <Flannel> m1: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser  Opera isn't free software, as such, isn't "in" ubuntu, so you have to do some extra stuff
[07:38] <SEJeff> techie: Open up Synaptic and let me know when you are there
[07:38] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: S'aight. I'm just looking up that MCP51 chipset atm. Have you searched for similar problems/solutions from the website?
[07:38] <techie> <SEJeff I am there and it tells me an error has ocurred
[07:39] <techie> SEjeff I get the follwoing: E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:39] <techie> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:39] <techie> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[07:39] <gyaresu> techie: line 14: "yes". So does a box pop up for you after running 'gksu ntfs-config' ?
[07:39] <SEJeff> techie: Oh jesus, you must have broken something
[07:39] <ToddEDM> gyaresu:   no i havent actualy ,earlier i was trying to get my video card working... it doesnt seem to have the right drivers or something
[07:40] <techie> no, nothing appears
[07:40] <gyaresu> techie: SEJeff techie I leave you in capable hands.
[07:40] <SEJeff> techie: What you pasted earlier and linked gyaresu, was that the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:40] <SEJeff> gyaresu: Yeah, this is easy to see what he did
[07:40] <techie> so where do I go from here.
[07:40] <techie> should i get out of terminal
[07:41] <techie> or begin again
[07:41] <K3nto> I got crossover office pro; how do i use an already-installed windows application with it?
[07:41] <SEJeff> techie: Lets take this to a PM so it is easier to talk. 900 users in a channel makes it a bit of a pain sometimes, ok?
[07:41] <dr-tofu> are there any options aside from gdm and kdm that may be slimmed down and more customizable?
[07:41] <techie> understood, I am using xchat how do i pm to you from here
[07:41] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[07:41] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:41] <con-man> lololol
[07:42] <techie> I meant xchat
[07:42] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: btw switching to kdm solved the problem, thank you
[07:42] <Naik0> hey how do write if i want a file to have "-rwxr-xr-x" permission?
[07:42] <techie> SEjeff u still there?
[07:42] <brussel> Is this the correct way of suppressing screen output of a command in a bash script: "command 2>&1 | > /dev/null"?
[07:42] <Flannel> K3nto: this isn't a crossover office support channel, try asking in #crossover
[07:42] <SEJeff> techie: I pmed you, look in the PM
[07:42] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: Annoying but I thought it might. You're welcome.
[07:42] <K3nto> Flannel: they dont say anything back
[07:42] <Naik0> hey how do write if i want a file to have "-rwxr-xr-x" permission?
[07:42] <brokenarrow> chmod 755
[07:42] <gyaresu> Naik0: 'man chmod'
[07:43] <SEJeff> brussel: No. ./command >/dev/null 2>&1
[07:43] <j-red> ZOMG! ITS ALIVE ITS ALIVE!
[07:43] <j-red> I never knew the sound of my printer could bring such excitement to me!
[07:43] <brussel> sejeff, thanks
[07:43] <SEJeff> techie: Do you see the private message I sent you?
[07:43] <SEJeff> brussel: np
[07:44] <_`XeOn_> how do i fix this issue --> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:44] <j-red> Guys thanks for all your help
[07:44] <j-red> I really gotta go now since its almost 2 am and I'm really tired
[07:44] <SEJeff> _`XeOn_: close the update manager, or whatever else you have updating packages. If you have apt-get running in a terminal while you have the update-manager open, it will give you that error
[07:45] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: you must have another package manager running somewhere...
[07:45] <_`XeOn_> but everything is closet
[07:45] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: easiest to reboot. Or if it's really stuffed you can delete the lock file (not recommended)
[07:45] <_`XeOn_> closed*
[07:45] <dr-tofu> gyaresu: .... why does kdm look exactly like gdm?
[07:45] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: consistencey of prettiness.
[07:45] <Flannel> K3nto: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-pro/troubleshooting  and their site has a help thing too
[07:46] <K3nto> ty
[07:46] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I can't seem to get my wacom tablet to work in Kubuntu.  Actually, it keeps seeing it as a mouse.  I do have the latest kernel drivers, along with wacom-tools and xorg drivers.  I don't know exactly where the problem lies.  I think it has to do with my udev (I've changed the udev for wacom a few times).  Any ideas?
[07:46] <techie> sejeff I am writing to you in the pm but I do not see you writing back.
[07:46] <_`XeOn_> man the problem started with the new update
[07:46] <_`XeOn_> ubuntu-doc
[07:46] <gyaresu> dr-tofu: You have differences if you want to start autologin and stuff cause it's from the kde end of the world but apart from that it's virtually the same.
[07:46] <Flannel> techie: you need to be registered/identified with freenode  to be able to query
[07:46] <mackinac> non-registered nicknames cant PM - just create a new channel
[07:46] <ToddEDM> this sux, i cant find a solution to my no sound problem
[07:46] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: can you just reboot and see if that fixes it?
[07:47] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: You've searched the forums?
[07:47] <techie> i got it
[07:47] <_`XeOn_> ok im rebooting again
[07:47] <ToddEDM> i googled
[07:47] <techie> but you do not see me responding there in pm
[07:47] <kling0n> what are the chances of getting an updated libgphoto n the official edgy repos?
[07:47] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: I don't know whether the google spiders get the forums or not...
[07:47] <techie> SEJeff I am receiving and typing in pm but you do not get it
[07:47] <kling0n> i noticed a new version was out
[07:48] <gyaresu> kling0n: Asking for packages is a _very_ dangerous business...
[07:48] <techie> SEJeff so now I am going between this room and the pm
[07:48] <Flannel> kling0n: None.  Just bugfixes/security updates
[07:48] <ToddEDM> i see they get .de forums lol
[07:48] <m1> I'm getting strange errors when switching between firefox window and others applications
[07:48] <m1> like graphical garbage
[07:49] <kling0n> Flannel: but libgphoto *is* buggy.... canon compatibility is fixed in the new release :)
[07:49] <kling0n> gyaresu: how so?
[07:49] <atk_> Hi. I have to use irqpoll kernel option to get my hibernation working. How often it actually polls and what are the downsides of using this option?
[07:50] <kling0n> I've tried making my own build, but I am not really good enough at deb package management to prevent conflicts with the existing dependencies
[07:50] <techie> SEJeff getting a heachache going through so many windows in here. How do I add you the IM
[07:50] <gyaresu> kling0n: Posting bugs is fine but just asking for package updates can be considered annoying. Kind of like "so why havn't you updated these yet? They're available as source."
[07:50] <Flannel> kling0n: then the bugfixes may be patched into the current version.
[07:51] <SEJeff> techie: Applications --> Internet --> Gaim
[07:51] <techie> SEJeff do you want me to use gaim instead?
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> hi everyone
[07:51] <kling0n> gyaresu: I dont mean to moan or bitch... I was simply wondering
[07:51] <bkceem> I need to rename some files from .ico to .png. Is there any software or command that auto rename the file extension?
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> i have a linksys wmp11v4 properly recognized under ubuntu
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> i can't dhclient wlan0 for some reason
[07:51] <jack_deltrino> any thoughts?
[07:51] <Mythmon> bkceem: im not sure if it is as simple as that
[07:52] <kling0n> Flannel: IMO it doesnt make sense to backport between versions?
[07:52] <Mythmon> bkceem: i think you need a converter, not just a renamer
[07:52] <jack_deltrino> /etc/resolv.conf is the same as the machine i'm on right now
[07:52] <kling0n> Flannel: doesn't that make the versioning moot?
[07:52] <michael_> How do I get rid of a program that I added to my startup progs in preferences?
[07:52] <jack_deltrino> anyone?
[07:52] <michael_> from CL *
[07:52] <_`XeOn_> now i got this == E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:52] <kling0n> michael_: check $HOME/.autostart
[07:52] <SEJeff> techie: Well do you have an aim or yahoo account?
[07:53] <Ltar> what the hell
[07:53] <bkceem> Mythmon, I tried to rename from .ico to .png they worked perfectly. If you are concerning about if changing the file extension will damage the files
[07:53] <Ltar> I can't correct the clock
[07:53] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: found all the mcp51 threads on ubuntuforums.org ?
[07:53] <SEJeff> techie: If you do, it would be best to do it from the box that is broken. That way, you can IM me the contents of files. It makes it faster
[07:53] <Ltar> I am not allowed to access the system configuration
[07:53] <Crywulf> grrr, i updated ubuntu and now i cant get X to start. after a restart it just goes to command prompt..
[07:53] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: do you have the intel_hda_sound module loaded?
[07:53] <professor> hey guys
[07:53] <Mythmon> bkceem: alright, i guess ico and png are similar enough. I did not now this, i guess its safe to ignore me...
[07:53] <professor> how do I get wine to work
[07:53] <michael_> kling0n: there is no .autostart
[07:54] <Flannel> kling0n: no.  They just backport fixes.  And, it's still versioned.  But not quite the same.  You'll see versions like this: 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 (the current libgphoto2-2 version) which means 2.2.1 of 'official' then -2 means two debian specific updates, then "ubuntu4" means there have been four ubuntu specific updates ontop of that
[07:54] <Ltar> am i going to have to launch a root terminal to change the clock time? I thought ubuntu was supposed to be more user-friendly than debian.
[07:54] <Mythmon> bkceem: though i cant help you with your renaming problem :/
[07:54] <gyaresu> Crywulf: You might need to reinstall nvidia-glx
[07:54] <kling0n> michael_: check system-session then
[07:54] <bkceem> Mythmon, so there is no command to auto rename the file extension?
[07:54] <professor> when I click on a exe file I get an error message 6006 says that I have to close all programs down before running it
[07:54] <Flannel> Ltar: Why do you need to do that?
[07:54] <michael_> kling0n: where's that?
[07:54] <bkceem> Mythmon, thanks though :)
[07:54] <kling0n> Flannel: okies... makes sense :)
[07:54] <Flannel> Ltar: why not just use ntp?
[07:54] <_`XeOn_> !wine | professor
[07:54] <ubotu> professor: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:54] <kling0n> michael_: in your gnome menu
[07:54] <Mythmon> bkceem, i do not know, im only here to get help on installing ubuntu later tonight, after i get the iso
[07:54] <Flannel> Ltar: and, you use sudo, not a root terminal.
[07:55] <Ltar> Flannel: because linux says it's 3:00 AM when, in fact, it is not.
[07:55] <michael_> kling0n: I can't load gnome
[07:55] <Flannel> Ltar: you're right, thats five minutes fast.
[07:55] <michael_> kling0n: I need to do it fdrom command line
[07:55] <SEJeff> techie: Are you a registered user? If you aren't that is probably why you can't send private messages
[07:55] <Flannel> Ltar: use ntp (sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com) to update, or if you want some other ntp-related things: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[07:55] <Ltar> Flannel: no, it's 4 hours fast
[07:56] <Flannel> Ltar: er, you sure your timezone is correct?
[07:56] <Ltar> Flannel: yes
[07:56] <techie> Sejeff I am not a registered user
[07:56] <techie> I tried to put you on IM and it tells me you are not there or logged in
[07:56] <Flannel> Ltar: alright, then it's three hours fast.  Why did you have your system clock set three hours fast?  NTP will fix that, at any rate.
[07:56] <Ltar> Flannel: -8:00 GMT, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything this that information. nevermind, I found the clock tool under the administrative tools
[07:57] <emet> is there a macosx dock thing for gnome
[07:57] <_`XeOn_> what to do now with this output --> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:57] <lanaz> hem, could you tell me g++ compiler on linux whit gui? becouse it isnt comfortible to write source in gedit and run make form console.. =/
[07:57] <Ltar> Flannel: this is a fresh install of ubuntu
[07:57] <SEJeff> techie: That is why you can't send private messages. Just do that and it will be easier for me to help you
[07:57] <gyaresu> _`XeOn_: Just do what it suggests.
[07:57] <jack_deltrino> can someone please help me?
[07:57] <r00t_> hello
[07:57] <gyaresu> !help
[07:57] <_`XeOn_> i did it before and i got frozzed
[07:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:57] <starscalling> jack_deltrino one sec
[07:57] <techie> SEJeff how do I register
[07:58] <gyaresu> !question
[07:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:58] <michael_> Can somebody please tell me how to get rid of a program listed in my startup programs in my preferences from the command line?
[07:58] <starscalling> gyaresu he already had
[07:58] <_`XeOn_> the install of ubuntu-doc frezzes
[07:58] <kling0n> michael_: take a look at $HOME/.gnome2/session then
[07:58] <techie> SEJeff plese give me to command to paste in here to register
[07:58] <deFrysk> michael_, go to sessions and unselect the selected progs
[07:58] <jack_deltrino> lanaz: you could use eclipse, kdevelop, et al, but with a text editor like vim and key mappings, you have so much more control and retain knowledge so much better
[07:58] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: thanks
[07:58] <lanaz> hem, could you tell me g++ compiler on linux whit gui? becouse it isnt comfortible to write source in gedit and run make form console.. =/ im new in cpp..
[07:58] <starscalling> np
[07:58] <SEJeff> techie: I gave it to you. Read your pm
[07:58] <michael_> deFrysk: "command line"
[07:58] <techie> ok
[07:58] <SEJeff>  /msg nickserv register password
[07:58] <lanaz> jack_deltrino:  ty
[07:59] <SEJeff> techie: where password is whatever you want it to actually be
[07:59] <kling0n> michael_: should look something like this: session:19,RestartCommand=<program name>
[07:59] <Ltar> why doesn't ubuntu's installation of Open office include OO math?
[07:59] <emet> is there a macosx dock thing for gnome ?
[07:59] <starscalling> try gnome-iconedit
[07:59] <starscalling> sudo apt-get install gnome-iconedit
[07:59] <jack_deltrino> lanaz: honestly, that's something you should google before impulsively asking though
[07:59] <Crywulf> hello
[07:59] <rosli> hi eveeryone
[07:59] <r00t_> anyone know about beryl? I tried the beryl channel but they are saying nothing? I really would like to get this figured out, thanks for the help
[07:59] <starscalling> also jack_deltrino
[07:59] <kling0n> !openoffice.org-math|Ltar
[07:59] <ubotu> ltar: openoffice.org-math: OpenOffice.org office suite - equation editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 1040 kB
[07:59] <starscalling> im fairly certain that you can open said .ico with gimp
[07:59] <Flannel> r00t_: see #ubuntu-effects (check the topic)
[08:00] <techie> ok SEJeff i have a password now to register... what is next?
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: you have me confused without someone else
[08:00] <r00t_> thanks
[08:00] <starscalling> and it has a nice handy feature where you can save as and choose extension and by choosing said extension it saves in correct format for that extension
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: i asked about networking, so i guess my question was lost in the stream of consciousness that is irc
[08:00] <ofeigsfjardt> gyaresu: ok well thanks anyway for your help
[08:00] <SEJeff> techie: /msg nickserv identify password
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> i have a linksys wmp11v4 properly recognized under ubuntu
[08:00] <lanaz> jack_deltrino: its bad habbit of mine =/ ill try to lose it ;)
[08:00] <starscalling> oh indeed i have... bkceem that was for you
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> i can't dhclient wlan0 for some reason
[08:00] <rosli> do you quys know of a simple way (preferebly via apt-get) to update firefox in drapper drake to the latest version 2.0.02
[08:00] <Ltar> how to install OO.org math, then?
[08:00] <SEJeff> techie: Then send me an IM after you did that
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> /etc/resolv.conf is the same as the machine i'm on right now
[08:00] <Flannel> rosli: firefox 2.0 isn't available in dapper
[08:00] <starscalling> jack_deltrino you have the linksys problem?
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> if i sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning i see the essid
[08:00] <colbert> Anyone here know if installing GRUB on a Vista drive would be a problem? I had it on my XP drive but just curious
[08:00] <jack_deltrino> i'm using wep, and i enter the key in after sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYNETWORK by sudo iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890
[08:00] <gyaresu> ofeigsfjardt: Sorry. Without 'lspci' finding a sound device we can't go much further...
[08:00] <deFrysk> rosli, you dont,
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: yes
[08:01] <starscalling> oh
[08:01] <starscalling> good luck.
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> this channel has a lot of unnecessary confusion
[08:01] <_`XeOn_> look Setting up ubuntu-docs (6.10.4.2) ... and get stuck there!
[08:01] <starscalling> i suggest changing mode to ad-hoc
[08:01] <_`XeOn_> grrr
[08:01] <starscalling> defining speed
[08:01] <techie> SEJeff i just did
[08:01] <l2s> hi
[08:01] <michael_> kling0n: I can't find it
[08:01] <starscalling> and correct channel
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: are you talking to me?
[08:01] <techie> and then you a pm via SEJeff
[08:01] <starscalling> jack_deltrino yes.
[08:01] <l2s> my remote ubuntu desktop 6.10 box keeps turning its network card off and you cannot ping it remotely
[08:01] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: what does that have to do with dhcp?
[08:01] <l2s> anyone know why this would happen?
[08:01] <michael_> kling0n: there is no .gnome2/sessions
[08:01] <kling0n> michael_: you might not have one then
[08:02] <l2s> power mgt is shut off in the control panel
[08:02] <michael_> kling0n: :S :@
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: the card works perfectly, detects the essid, etc. it's just dhclient doesn't grab an ip
[08:02] <kling0n> michael_: its .gnome2/session
[08:02] <kling0n> without trailing s
[08:02] <Crywulf> i recently updated ubuntu and went to run wine and ubuntu X would crash to login. re-installed nvidia drivers now ubuntu wont boot to X just console.
[08:02] <starscalling> try turning off wep
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: ...
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: why?
[08:02] <kling0n> michael_: what is the problem exactly
[08:02] <kling0n> ?
[08:02] <starscalling> !nvidia
[08:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <michael_> kling0n: don't have that either
[08:02] <SEJeff> techie: Did you see a message back from nickserv saying something about being identified?
[08:02] <gyaresu> l2s: you need to provide log files for us to assess the problem
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: it works with this machine
[08:02] <mackinac> SEJeff, you two could just start a new random channel... like " /join #sejeff "
[08:02] <starscalling> jack_deltrino its notoriously painful to get it to work
[08:02] <l2s> which log?
[08:02] <starscalling> jack_deltrino
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: but this machine is not ubuntu.
[08:02] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: no it's not
[08:02] <SEJeff> mackinac: thanks for the idea, this is a bit painful
[08:02] <michael_> kling0n: one if the progs is killing my X session
[08:02] <memilanuk> anyone have a way to find out which model of Linksys 54G wireless card I have? (short of yanking the card out of the machine)
[08:02] <starscalling> yes it is.
[08:03] <Q_Continuum> eck: ping
[08:03] <gyaresu> l2s: 'dmesg' '/var/log/messages'
[08:03] <starscalling> whatever bork off.
[08:03] <techie> SEJeff no message back about identification
[08:03] <jack_deltrino> starscalling: i'm on a gentoo box, which is infinitely more difficult than ubuntu and it was waaay easy to setup
[08:03] <l2s> ok will try now as a friend reboots it
[08:03] <gyaresu> memilanuk: 'lspci'
[08:03] <kling0n> michael_: which one?
[08:03] <l2s> thanks gyaresu
[08:03] <gyaresu> l2s: np
[08:04] <kling0n> michael_: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:04] <techie> where are you now SEJeff
[08:04] <michael_> kling0n: found it, thanks
[08:04] <SEJeff> techie: type /join #techie
[08:04] <memilanuk> gyaresu any way from WinXP?  It takes a while to shut everything down and boot back up, only to find bad news and have to reboot to XP again to look for more help
[08:05] <yeniklasor> hi
[08:05] <yeniklasor> hi
[08:05] <drew> hello
[08:05] <yeniklasor> how can I edit /etc/environment
[08:05] <drew> anyone know if there is a feisty channel
[08:05] <Flannel> drew: #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <mackinac> drew:   #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> !loki
[08:05] <drew> sudo nano /etc/enviorment
[08:05] <drew> thanks
[08:05] <ubotu> loki: [Biology]  MCMC linkage analysis on general pedigrees. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7.4-1 (edgy), package size 332 kB, installed size 824 kB
[08:05] <_`XeOn_> ahahah
[08:06] <_`XeOn_> ubotu i wasnt looking for that loki
[08:06] <gyaresu> memilanuk: sorry. on the phone. I'll be about 5min.
[08:07] <memilanuk> np, I'm looking thru the forums as well ;)
[08:07] <mackinac> !bot | _`XeOn_
[08:07] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:07] <yeniklasor> how can I edit /etc/environment
[08:07] <_`XeOn_> mackinac, i know is a bot
[08:07] <preaction> yeniklasor: what is /etc/environment?
[08:07] <_`XeOn_> :)
[08:07] <yeniklasor> a file
[08:08] <preaction> yeniklasor: sudo nano /etc/environment, but why?
[08:08] <yeniklasor> I must select default language
[08:09] <brokenarrow> ubuntu 6.10 and daylight savings any worries here?
[08:09] <preaction> brokenarrow: um... why would there be?
[08:09] <yomm> xeon if you know he is a bot why do you talk to him ?
[08:09] <yomm> :p
[08:09] <l2s> anyone here install ubuntu on a dell 6350 with perc 2 raid?
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[08:09] <l2s> 6.06 server lts won't work at all but 6.10 desktop installs fine
[08:09] <brokenarrow> didn't think so but I run some old hardware
[08:09] <Crywulf> i read over the nvidia install at the link provided but i cant even get into X to use that method.  i orginally used tseliots method 2.
[08:10] <preaction> brokenarrow: daylight savings is software, so you should be fine
[08:10] <ToddEDM> i cant find anything on the ubuntu forums gyaresu
[08:10] <_`XeOn_> yomm, cuz was funy i asked for loki installer and he said biowhatever
[08:10] <brokenarrow> cool
[08:11] <ToddEDM> ok forget the sound, could someon help me get my video drivers installed?... i just downloaded them from nvidias site
[08:11] <l2s> when does support for 6.10 stop?
[08:12] <yomm> My keyboard Volume keys are not recognized , where do I start looking ?
[08:12] <Mythmon> l2s: april2008
[08:12] <jeffwheeler> Is there any way to interface with a TI-84+ over USB, and connect so that I can write C apps and the like to the calc?
[08:12] <l2s> ok thats not bad
[08:13] <zigma> Hi all
[08:13] <l2s> since server wont install im forced to use desktop
[08:13] <yomm> 12s server won't install ?
[08:13] <l2s> i think its having problems with the perc 2 raid in 6.06 lts server
[08:13] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, last i remeber the TI interface was just USB to serial
[08:13] <yomm> 12s : and Desktop does ?
[08:13] <l2s> 6.10 desktop does
[08:13] <l2s> 6.06 server does not
[08:13] <DarkX> so you may have beeter luck with other interface
[08:13] <zigma> Is ubuntu free...
[08:13] <jeffwheeler> DarkX: yeah, but is there any app that actually can use this?
[08:13] <Flannel> l2s: Grab the alterate CD, install the GUI-less
[08:14] <jeffwheeler> zigma: yes
[08:14] <Flannel> zigma: of course
[08:14] <l2s> why would gui solve a server install problem?
[08:14] <mackinac> free as in nachos
[08:14] <yomm> 12s : yes ; do a command line install
[08:14] <Flannel> l2s: Server CD has less hardware support
[08:14] <zigma> Thanks..
[08:14] <l2s> its the raid that seems to be not detected
[08:14] <jeffwheeler> l2s: I was looking for something that would automate the process of downloading the apps to the calculator.
[08:15] <l2s> ok bit weird since dell made a million of these servers
[08:15] <l2s> but i can try it i guess
[08:15] <yomm> l2s: Linux & hardware raid is on a lot of cases ermm .. unsupported :)
[08:15] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: you don't write C apps, you write either assembly or TI-basic
[08:15] <l2s> yea but this is a stock dell box
[08:15] <gyaresu> ToddEDM: I'm not really here atm but: you don't need the drivers from the nvidia site. You can just enable the !repos and install http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy like that.
[08:15] <l2s> that is old so its weird
[08:15] <l2s> freebsd 4 installed with zero issue 2 years ago
[08:15] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: you sure? There's a TIGCC compilre available, so I assume the same can be done for lower-level calcs, right?
[08:15] <yomm> 12s , none of my linux boxes recognize tje onbaord raid controllers
[08:16] <l2s> http://www-gatago.com/linux/debian/user/36702354.html
[08:16] <Flannel> l2s: shrug.  Try the alternate CD, it should detect the same hardware the Desktop does.  You can install a GUI-less box, and then try the -server kernel
[08:16] <l2s> heres an example but not the cd
[08:16] <l2s> ok flannel i am downloading it now
[08:16] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: that's.. equivalent to writing assembly, I suppose.
[08:17] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, its a microcontroller..not a multi task CPU
[08:17] <l2s> would that be better than just using desktop as a server?
[08:17] <ToddEDM> hey guys, how can i change to root , to install something in the console
[08:17] <DarkX> so im pretty sure your limited to TIBasic
[08:17] <kling0n> is there a repo for "untested" backports?
[08:17] <l2s> todd sudo whatevercommand you want
[08:17] <ToddEDM> no i need to log out of this uder?
[08:17] <ToddEDM> ohhh ok
[08:17] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: I'm not sure the TI-84 has ASM hooks though.  I know the 85 didn't, that's why you had to use zshell to bootstrap
[08:17] <kling0n> I can find an updated pkg for libgphoto at launchpad, but It seems that packages are only released there
[08:17] <DarkX> i cant find any linux support for it..id sujest using VMWare and let it pick up the USB devicde
[08:18] <DarkX> n just use the USB device that way
[08:18] <l2s> would desktop run as an ok server?
[08:18] <jeffwheeler> DarkX: me?
[08:18] <DarkX> yup jeff
[08:18] <Flannel> l2s: yep.  Except you'd have the GUI stuff sitting there running as well
[08:18] <mike-db> Clearly eh? Alright my problem is that when I try to resize a partition I get an error saying that my Hard drive is damaged... With help from someone he came to the conclusion that I had to reformat my hard drive, but I'm without a win xp cd does anyone have a work around for this?
[08:18] <Flannel> l2s: *nix doesn't really care what you use it as (desktop, server, toaster, whatever)
[08:19] <skinol> lol
[08:19] <yomm> Would I have problems of shifting my RAID5 mdadm array from 6.10 to 6.06 ? is MDADM the same version on 6.06 & 6.10 ?
[08:19] <l2s> i think i can just set it to not run x by default right?
[08:19] <Bakefy> I just freshly installed ubuntu, I have noticed I have no sound.
[08:19] <broken> hello, people
[08:19] <Bakefy> where can I look to install my sound driver?
[08:20] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: yeah, 84 has assembly support, or machine code support, that is.  You should be good.
[08:20] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: alright, but I still don't see how I should be able to get it on there... :-/
[08:20] <Flannel> l2s: just grab the alternate CD, install the "server" option, and never have a GUI
[08:20] <l2s> ok
[08:20] <yomm> lol
[08:20] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: shrug.  No idea.  I've got a serial cable ;)
[08:20] <l2s> will give it a shot
[08:20] <l2s> its downloading
[08:20] <Bakefy> nevermind, i fixed it
[08:20] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: ha, alright; thanks. I'll see what I can come up with.
[08:21] <ToddEDM> ok guys, im trying to install my vidie drivers, and i got an error so i checked the .log file and here it is ..... ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[08:21] <ToddEDM> how do i stop the Xserver
[08:21] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, id recomend going in windows n using the serial interface..sniffing the serial link...see what kidna protocol it uses
[08:21] <DarkX> it may be simple as using some kind of XModem
[08:21] <skinol> 6.12pl rulez :] 
[08:21] <mike-db> Is the person with a star beside his name god?
[08:21] <broken> anyone know how to play midi files using timidity? I can't find the gtk interface, but synaptic says it's installed
[08:21] <mike-db> or her...
[08:21] <jeffwheeler> DarkX: from some Googling, it looks pretty closed
[08:22] <Flannel> jeffwheeler, DarkX, guarenteed you don't need to do that, It's already on the web somewhere.
[08:22] <jeffwheeler> Flannel, DarkX: I see Tilp (and its dependencies) seem to have gone somewhere.
[08:22] <ToddEDM> anyone know how to stop X from the command line?
[08:22] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: I imagine it's the exact same protocol theyve been using on that family.  Check for 83 and 82 protocols as well.
[08:23] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: likely; will do
[08:23] <DarkX> jeffwheeler, found something
[08:23] <DarkX> http://www.ticalc.org/basics/linking/software.html
[08:23] <Flannel> jeffwheeler, DarkX, this is offtopic though.  #ubuntu-offtopic if you have any more TI- stuff jeffwheeler ;)
[08:23] <yomm> ToddEDM : u runnung Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[08:23] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: no problem; thanks for your help
[08:24] <yomm> ToddEDM : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:24] <yomm> or "kdm" if you run Kubuntu
[08:24] <xreyye> How can I determine which partition/drive my windows partition is on for use with GRUB?
[08:26] <xreyye> I did sudo fdisk -l, which lists windows partition as hda5 but I just dont know how to add that to grub config
[08:26] <jack_deltrino> why does dhclient wlan0 fail? i'm on the same network as the machine on which dhclient wlan0 fails
[08:26] <jack_deltrino> /etc/resolv.conf on both machines is synchronized
[08:27] <zigma> Can ubuntu run on core 2 duo processor
[08:27] <Flannel> xreyye: hda5 is hd0,4
[08:28] <ToddEDM> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[08:28] <zigma> Can ubuntu run on core 2 duo processor
[08:28] <ToddEDM> thats the error i get, how do i exit X
[08:28] <atk_> zigma: don't spam the channel
[08:28] <zigma> Ok sorry
[08:28] <ToddEDM> zigma: i havent done it, but im sure it can
[08:29] <genii> xreyye add to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <genii> title Windows
[08:29] <genii> rootnoverify (hd0,4)
[08:29] <genii> makeactive
[08:29] <genii> chainloader  +1
[08:29] <xreyye> Flannel: thanks, I must have screwed up something then, when I tried hd(0,4) in grub it gave me an error, something to do with Nt...something not detected
[08:29] <ToddEDM> im running mine in turion64 x2
[08:29] <zigma> Thanks todd i heard core 2 doesnt support linux
[08:29] <ToddEDM> ohhh i dont know
[08:29] <ToddEDM> try google
[08:29] <ToddEDM> should be there
[08:29] <ToddEDM> thats big news
[08:30] <seeds> hello. please i need to know how to view the running processes in ubuntu. I'm trying to open firefox but it says that it's already running
[08:30] <xreyye> Hmm I didn't write the "noverify" party, maybe thats my problem
[08:31] <genii> seeds You can use alt-tab like in windoze to cycle thru apps and then close multiple instances
[08:32] <Flannel> seeds: Uh, gnome has a viewer, don't remember what it's called.  It's in accessories, I think.  Also, there's "ps"
[08:32] <seeds> ps?
[08:32] <atk_> seeds: you probably have a downloads window open somewhere. System menu -> Preferences -> System monitor
[08:32] <mackinac> "core 2 doesn't support linux" = false :s
[08:32] <atk_> my mistake, System menu -> Administration -> System Monitor
[08:33] <seeds> oh great atk thanks
[08:33] <seeds> thanks all indeed
[08:34] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with playing mp4 files??
[08:36] <mackinac> !restricted > h3h_timo
[08:37] <yomm>  Toddem : I told you before how to do it
[08:37] <h3h_timo> mackinac, thanks, but its not helpin
[08:38] <yomm> toddell : nm , my page didnt scroll , my bad :)
[08:38] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   what the dealio then
[08:38] <h3h_timo> mackinac, well, i installed all the multimedia codecs from the starter guide, and i can play all other files except for files with mp4 audio
[08:39] <xreyye> Grub is telling me Error 12: Invalid device requested
[08:40] <l2s> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326377
[08:40] <l2s> heh found someone with a similar problem
[08:40] <h3h_timo> is there a reason that when i installed dvd support it wouldve messed up gstreamer?
[08:41] <xreyye> I did rootnoverify hd(0,4) with fdisk telling me windows partition is hda5
[08:41] <pete> mikedb: you still there?
[08:42] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   did mp4 work before, then break?
[08:42] <h3h_timo> im not sure, i dont remember
[08:42] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[08:42] <h3h_timo> let me check
[08:43] <Desp_> hi all
[08:43] <Desp_> how to fix this
[08:43] <Desp_> You don't see to be running an X server (no DISPLAY set).
[08:43] <Desp_> Google Earth and its installer both require X11.
[08:43] <h3h_timo> mackinac, it isnt showing them in the terminal hold on im gonna check in synaptic
[08:43] <Desp_> Iam tring to install google earth
[08:43] <xreyye> this is killing me
[08:44] <h3h_timo> mackinac, yeah, its installed, is there a reason that gstreamer wouldnt be the main decoder of audio??
[08:44] <mackinac> hmmm
[08:44] <mackinac> maybe xine
[08:45] <reyn> Hi, I tried installing beryl. I had some nvidia driver issues, restored by old xorg.conf and restarted. I'm now sitting with kde without a desktop or window decorations ... how do I get those back ?
[08:45] <Chameleon22> hi all, I just noticed a file in lost+found dir. (dr-sr---wx  2 779382894 1818452310  24K 1970-01-30 06:00 #22594723). User nor the group with those numbers exists. When I try to delete the file (as root) I get: rm: cannot remove directory `#22594723/': Operation not permitted. Directory it self is empty. Any ideas on how I can delete this bugger?
[08:45] <LastMall> rikkus is causing problems in other channels. Is he a common problem here ?
[08:45] <h3h_timo> mackinac, what do you think i should do?
[08:45] <eck> Q_Continuum: i'm here now
[08:46] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   what *I* would do is try VLC media player
[08:47] <h3h_timo> mackinac, yeah, vlc plays em, it plays all, but i wanna play em from inside either songbird or exaile!
[08:47] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   sorry, its beyond my kb
[08:48] <eck> Chameleon22: of course, you need write permissions
[08:48] <eck> i think you can just chmod it
[08:48] <h3h_timo> thanks tho
[08:48] <eck> i would peek inside it to see what it is though
[08:48] <atk_> reyn: try going to the beryl site and look up the wiki, the answer is there
[08:49] <Chameleon22> eck, even if i am root!?
[08:49] <reyn> atk_: mkay
[08:49] <Chameleon22> eck, it doesnt even let me reassign permissions when i try to (as root)
[08:49] <eck> hm
[08:49] <eck> i think the files in their might just go away eventually
[08:50] <eck> or else you can probably remove it in single user mode
[08:50] <eck> it might have an immutable attribute
[08:50] <eck> (just a guess)
[08:50] <mackinac> h3h_timo:   got libmp4v2-0 ?
[08:50] <eck> check with lsattr
[08:50] <mackinac> meh they left
[08:50] <Chameleon22> eck, well go away eventually is not a solution... here is the "file" command output if that helps: #22594723/: setuid directory
[08:53] <reyn> anyone know the binary name of the kde control center ?
[08:53] <eck> Chameleon22: also i am not sure if this will actually happen to lost+found files, but check the reference count on the file
[08:53] <Chameleon22> eck, how?
[08:53] <eck> Chameleon22: the number to the right of the permissions in ls -l
[08:53] <eck> it should be two for a directory
[08:54] <Chameleon22> eck just PM'd you
[08:56] <Arcad3> hi.i'm conected with ssh to a pc and i run a shoutcast radio.if i close the terminal the radio shuts down ..
[08:56] <Arcad3> is there a way to run it as daemon?
[09:00] <Ltar> how do I stop ubuntu from locking the desktop after X period of inactivity?
[09:00] <Jordan_U> My computer no longer boots
[09:00] <genii> Arcad3 Yes, run it with -d switch ("detach from console")
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Ltar: It's in screensaver preferences I believe
[09:01] <dv_> hmm
[09:01] <dv_> from what I see, i965 boards are not working in edgy?
[09:01] <dv_> bad :/ I am about to get an intel classic series board with a 965. is feisty herd 5 stable enough to use?
[09:01] <Ltar> Jordan_U: screensaver..... lets me adjust time untill idle
[09:02] <Ltar> alrite, I see it, thanks
[09:04] <h3h_timo> mackinac, you still there?
[09:05] <mackinac> ya
[09:06] <steelb> someone say my name
[09:06] <mackinac> my name
[09:07] <mackinac> steelb
[09:07] <steelb> thanks
[09:07] <kbd> What is this the R Kelly hour?
[09:07] <genii> dv_ I'm having issues with Feisty at the moment on my laptop (for testing). I would stick with Edgy right now for stability
[09:08] <kbd> hahaha, you said Edgy and stability in the same sentence. That's funny.
[09:08] <genii> kbd Compared to Feisty, it is
[09:08] <Episcopus> i just installed edgy and am trying to get my netgear MA311 wlan card working.  this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear says Detected as eth0 and started working after modules.conf was edited (wlan0 to eth0)
[09:08] <kbd> Compared to nitrogliceran?
[09:08] <erikja> !burning >erikja
[09:08] <Episcopus> how do i make the card work?
[09:08] <genii> kbd Tho I am generally still running Dapper on most of my boxes
[09:09] <kbd> genii: I am not satisfied with x86_64 Edgy :/
[09:09] <kbd> But maybe, I wouldn't be satisfied with * x86_64....
[09:10] <genii> kbd The 64 versions still have weird issues as well, yeah
[09:10] <xelados> What's the terminal command to view current processes, and then force them to exit?
[09:10] <xelados> I've forgotten it...
[09:10] <dv_> genii, the thing is, I dont see many options for a 965 board.
[09:10] <erikja> !nautilus >erikja
[09:11] <dv_> or I am missing something
[09:11] <Jordan_U> xelados: top
[09:11] <xelados> and to kill a process?
[09:11] <genii> dv_ The default SMP kernel will run dual-core cpus no problemmo
[09:11] <Jordan_U> xelados: kill or killall
[09:11] <kbd> genii: I wonder if it is because less devs or submitters are x86_64
[09:11] <xelados> alright, thanks
[09:11] <bullgard2> Gaim: Can you please tell me what is 'freenode-connect'? I did not find a definition.
[09:12] <dv_> genii, the forums are filled with people complaining about installation issues related to the JMicron controller in 965 boards
[09:12] <erikja> !nautilus cd burner >erikja
[09:12] <genii> kbd I suspect the codebase for i386 is just larger and older
[09:12] <bullgard2> Can you please tell me what is 'freenode-connect' in Gaim? I did not find a definition.
[09:13] <graulich> how do I locate my ntfs partitions in /dev/?
[09:13] <erikja> !gnomebaker >erikja
[09:13] <genii> dv_ Ah, is that a SATA controller or some odd proprietary thing for some other device?
[09:13] <bullgard2> graulich: run gedit
[09:14] <graulich> bullgard2: and then?
[09:14] <bullgard2> look at its output.
[09:14] <graulich> gedit? but it's just a text editor...
[09:15] <dv_> oh its the pata controller
[09:15] <bullgard2> graulich: I made a mistake. I meant 'gparted' Xcuse pse
[09:16] <graulich> ok thanks bullgard2
[09:16] <kbd> I need some help fixing gnome for a user account on this Edgy (upgraded from Dapper). I tried installing an mouse theme but it all went horribly wrong and the theme was malformed and gnome quit working. I suppose I need to regenerate configuration files and folders for gnome, or perhaps there is a lock issue... I don't know really. But gnome-settings-daemon or gnome-session are unable to connect to dbus. :/
[09:16] <genii> dv_ Ah, I find it is a SATA controller. It seems booting with kernel parameter:   all-generic-ide irqpoll    helps with this
[09:16] <kbd> Gnome, meanwhile, works for all other users on the same machine.
[09:16] <dv_> k
[09:17] <dv_> I'm going to get a SATA dvd drive too, no pata stuff at all,
[09:17] <dv_> so this might help if it is used as a pata controller
[09:17] <Episcopus> can anyone help me get my netgear MA311 wireless card to work? edgy finds it, but doesn't let it connect to my wireless network
[09:17] <dv_> but thanks
[09:17] <kbd> Episcopus: you've tried ndiswrapper?
[09:18] <Episcopus> i went here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear and it says it is supposed to be supported
[09:18] <kbd> How do you connect to your wireless network?
[09:19] <Episcopus> kbd: what do you mean how? WEP
[09:19] <kbd> Are you sure your system is capable of using WEP? I've had trouble in Dapper...
[09:20] <george> Is there a super_noob channel or can we just ask really dumb questions in here :p?
[09:20] <Episcopus> kbd: no, i'm not sure. how would i find out? i would like to stay mildly protected considering the computer i am typing on right now is still windows
[09:21] <graulich> is there any reason other than personal preference to take slab instead of uslab?
[09:21] <kbd> Go to System->Administration->System Log
[09:21] <Flannel> george: this is it ;)
[09:21] <genii> !ask | george
[09:21] <ubotu> george: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:21] <Episcopus> kbd: ok, there
[09:21] <kbd> And try to use wep with iwconfig
[09:22] <Episcopus> kbd: hold on, i am brand new. do what now?
[09:22] <kbd> If your system encounters a problem trying to use WEP it should show up in the logs
[09:22] <balrok> hi i search something which is similar to the launchpad.. cause i want this for my projects too.. do you know something?
[09:22] <kbd> ah
[09:23] <george> I just downloaded the 6.10 iso and burnt it. (first time trying to install linux). When i boot the CD and if i try boot ubuntu or ubuntu (video safe mode) the screen just gets crazy orange/tan lines on it
[09:23] <Episcopus> kbd:  :)
[09:23] <kbd> !iwconfig >kbd
[09:23] <kbd> gsh... ubotu is ignorant
[09:23] <george> I have a core 2 duo 6400, geforce 7950gt (pci-e), 2gb ram, dell 20" widescreen lcd
[09:23] <kbd> ok, simply type 'man iwconfig' into a gnome-terminal
[09:24] <Episcopus> kbd: done
[09:24] <genii> george Your best bet is to download the "alternate install cd" image. Then you can do a text-based install.
[09:26] <Episcopus> kbd: once in iwconfig, then...
[09:27] <george> thanks genii.. downloading the x86 alternate install cd now
[09:27] <kbd> It's all in the man page.
[09:29] <rusty> whats the best free native online game for ubuntu
[09:29] <kbd> rusty: ?
[09:29] <rusty> i was looking and i know nuthin bout them
[09:29] <kbd> Is it "20 Questions!"?
[09:30] <rusty> figured u guys would know
[09:30] <george> i think i partitioned my hard drive correctly.. i have a 80gb hard drive.. first 40gb is active Primary for windows.. next 20gb is logical for /home (ext3).. next 4g is linux swap last 10.5g is ext3 for ubuntu install..
[09:30] <kbd> I don't think there are any native ubuntu games... you mean like linux games?
[09:30] <rusty> yes
[09:30] <kbd> That's kind of subjective... I like CUBE kind of...
[09:30] <rusty> o
[09:30] <rusty> nm then
[09:31] <kbd> I like Tetravex
[09:31] <rusty> ttyl
[09:31] <rusty> bed
[09:31] <rusty> toodloo
[09:31] <rusty> ty
[09:34] <kbd> OoOo... Tremulous looks interesting
[09:35] <erikja> whcih burning software is recommended for edgy (gnome) ?
[09:36] <kbd> erikja: I really like gnome-backer
[09:36] <dv_> erikja, k3b is the best, but thats kde-based .. :/
[09:36] <kbd> gnome-baker*
[09:36] <erikja> kbd, thank you very much
[09:36] <kbd> I thoroughly enjoy using gnome-baker every time.
[09:36] <kbd> I wonder if there is w32 version...
[09:36] <MTecknology> what's the name of the compix manager?
[09:36] <kbd> compiz?
[09:36] <erikja> dv_, ok, how can I change to KDE ?
[09:37] <MTecknology> ya
[09:37] <kbd> cgwb or something?
[09:37] <SEJeff> MTecknology: gtk-window-decorator
[09:37] <MTecknology> isn't there an icon for it that you can load?
[09:38] <MTecknology> it's loaded and working, I just want to edit it
[09:38] <stuart_> can someone help me kill and uninstall (the undead) a rogue program?
[09:38] <Alfa> hi everyone i have a little noob question
[09:38] <lori> #oalug
[09:38] <george> for core2 duo processor do i need the amd64 cd instead of the x86?
[09:39] <kbd> stuart_: Do you know the name of the program?
[09:39] <kbd> Alrighty.
[09:39] <Alfa> how can i compile a single file "main.c" in ubuntu?
[09:40] <kbd> gcc
[09:40] <mackinac> !compile > Alfa
[09:40] <blob6767> does anyone know where i can find the actual deb packages for build-essential?
[09:40] <kbd> blob6767: online?
[09:40] <blob6767> im having issues with my madwifi drivers and im on a live cd right now
[09:40] <Alfa> i wrote cc -c main.c but it gaves error like "main.c:4:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory"
[09:41] <kbd> ah, sure
[09:41] <blob6767> and i need to install it to my actual HD which i've mounted
[09:41] <Alfa> but stdio.h is standard input of c
[09:41] <blob6767> but when i run synaptic to install everything i need, it saves it to the tmp filesystem
[09:41] <blob6767> and i need to install it to my real file system which i have mounted
[09:41] <blob6767> does anyone know how to remedy this problem or else where i might procure the stand-alone .deb files?
[09:42] <blob6767> kbd:  yes online
[09:42] <kbd> blob6767: chroot into that filesystem
[09:42] <blob6767> kbd:  i need to procure all the .debs in lieu of using synaptic to install since i'm on a live cd
[09:42] <blob6767> kbd:  thank you so much
[09:43] <blob6767> i've been up for hours on end troubleshooting
[09:43] <george> Alfa you have #include stdio.h or #include <stdio.h> ?
[09:43] <kbd> If you're on a livecd and you have filesystem access, chrooting could get you in there
[09:43] <kbd> blob6767: I am unsure of exactly how to do it in this case, as I've really only chrooted on gentoo installs and that was some time ago
[09:43] <kbd> blob6767: I recommend a forum post on this.
[09:44] <chavo> chroot is easy
[09:44] <blob6767> im well acquainted with linux i just forgot about chrooting
[09:44] <blob6767> all you do is chroot newfilesystem
[09:44] <blob6767> my mind is like jello right now :)
[09:44] <mackinac> apt-get --download-only
[09:44] <kbd> hehe
[09:44] <blob6767> i *seriously* appreciate it
[09:44] <chavo> just sudo mkdir /mountpoint;sudo mount /dev/hdxx /mountpoint;sudo chroot /mountpoint
[09:44] <Alfa> #include <stdio.h>
[09:44] <blob6767> i guess the default madwifi drivers suck or something
[09:45] <blob6767> the card works fine on the live CD but not on the vanilla install
[09:45] <blob6767> kbd:  here we go... lets see how it works
[09:47] <blob6767> ok i think i might need to update my repositories
[09:47] <george> Alfa: is stdio.h in usr/include ?
[09:47] <blob6767> here is the error im getting running apt-get from bash:
[09:48] <blob6767> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:48] <blob6767> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:48] <buddy7999> Is anyone familiar with the bcm43xx wifi chipset?
[09:48] <blob6767> thats after chrooting
[09:49] <Ademan> anyone know if it's possible to resize a gnome-terminal through the command line?  Basically i'm writing a little bash script that will change into my source directory, (hopefully) maximize the terminal, and then pull up vim
[09:49] <Alfa> george: no
[09:49] <george> Alfa: check PM.. sent you a link
[09:49] <Alfa> k
[09:49] <blob6767> that worked
[09:49] <blob6767> kbd:  i owe you a beer
[09:49] <blob6767> kbd:  if you're in the los angeles area,  we will drink heavily,  eat meat like vikings,  and revel in hedonism
[09:51] <blob6767> thanks everyone
[09:51] <blob6767> i appreciate the time / help,  have a good night!
[09:51] <eck> lol
[09:51] <xelados> What do I need to get VMware working with a virtual install of Windows?
[09:51] <xelados> wine isn't cutting it for what I need.
[09:52] <buddy7999> how fast is vmware as an emulator?
[09:52] <buddy7999> usually?
[09:52] <eck> xelados: you basically just need to sell your sould to vmware and then download it from their site
[09:52] <buddy7999> 50% as if it were natively installede?
[09:52] <george> Alfa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-314578.html
[09:52] <rob-west> !opengl
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <rob-west> how to i install open gl
[09:53] <xelados> Well, there's the player available in the ubuntu repos..
[09:53] <eck> buddy7999: i think it depends what os you are emulating, and what kind of app you are running
[09:53] <LZMA> hi!
[09:53] <xelados> But I'd need server, right?
[09:53] <SnrWhippy> vmware 6 the beta version runs with debug on so its much slower
[09:53] <julien_> hi every body
[09:53] <eck> buddy7999: in my experience (on a server) it is better than 50%
[09:53] <buddy7999> well i was just curious how well vmware would emulate an xp machine
[09:53] <LZMA> which Ubuntu has the best hardware support? Edgy or Feisty?
[09:53] <SnrWhippy> just make sure you have plenty of ram
[09:53] <eck> xelados: yeah, you'd want the server one
[09:54] <xelados> That's not in the repos.
[09:54] <xelados> :<
[09:54] <rob-west> how to i install open gl
[09:54] <julien_> i have a rar file protect by a password and i don't know how to crack the password under ubuntu could you help me
[09:54] <eck> of course not, it's not released under an open source license
[09:54] <xelados> SnrWhippy: I've got a gig of RAM. Fluxbox (running through xdm) uses less than 25% of that, I'm sure.
[09:54] <eck> you basically have to agree to some EULA, like with java
[09:54] <xelados> oh, that's it?
[09:54] <xelados> It's free?
[09:55] <eck> yeah, there's some heavy duty server ones you can pay for, but just for one VM it is free
[09:55] <SnrWhippy> excellent
[09:55] <xelados> sweet
[09:55] <xelados> I only need it for one VM anyway
[09:55] <julien_> yes vmserver it is free
[09:55] <SnrWhippy> so is vmware workstation 6 and now the converter
[09:55] <julien_> the enterprise server no free is now called esx
[09:55] <ch4rles> Anyone in here ever successfully install VMWare Tools 5.5.1 on Ubuntu 6.10?
[09:55] <xelados> wine was working really well with D2 until I got to Act 2...
[09:56] <xelados> So I have to find an alternative now.
[09:56] <xelados> lol
[09:56] <eck> xelados: you too?
[09:56] <xelados> yep
[09:56] <xelados> Really pissed me off cause I was with my stepdad and a friend in a LAN game..
[09:56] <xelados> I was the host, too
[09:56] <julien_> i have a rar file protect by a password and i don't know how to crack the password under ubuntu could you help me ?? i know its not a very clean question but this files is mine
[09:56] <eck> over the summer i got ambitious and tried to run diablo in wine, had the same problem
[09:57] <eck> julien_: i think you just have to brute force it
[09:57] <xelados> It's no big deal, I guess. I'll have more support with VMware anyway.
[09:57] <julien_> eck: ok but with whixh tool
[09:57] <xelados> It'll just be slightly slower than a real installation
[09:57] <a_coward> i downloaded thunderbird from mozilla and extracted to /opt/ and it won't start
[09:57] <eck> i am sure you can find some code to do it
[09:58] <eck> xelados: it's not too slow, it's just a memory hog :-(
[09:58] <julien_> ok i try by your way
[09:58] <xelados> Eh, I need to put this gig of RAM to good use anyway
[09:58] <xelados> :P
[09:58] <julien_> i'll keep you inform
[09:58] <buddy7999> ANyone at all familiar with the broadcom wifi chipset in *nix?
[09:58] <Flannel> a_coward: why not just use the one in the repositories?
[09:58] <xelados> Do you think I should still keep wine around?
[09:58] <xelados> It's been a pain in my ass.
[09:58] <a_coward> i know the benefits of using repos, i just want to try this way
[09:59] <Chai_Sangeen> hello guys
[10:00] <buddy7999> oh well...
[10:00] <buddy7999> next thing
[10:00] <buddy7999> anyone know i can disable the keyring in ubuntu?
[10:00] <rob-west> can someone help me with open gl
[10:01] <rob-west> i cant enable the restricted modules
[10:01] <xelados> hmm
[10:01] <xelados> Which download to get..
[10:02] <eck> buddy7999: the ubuntu keyring?
[10:02] <xelados> I'd get the RPM but I'm not running Fedora or RedHat
[10:02] <eck> err gnome keyring
[10:02] <innu> Feisty - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=374201 mysql error or smth. maybe someone can tell me how to fix it
[10:02] <buddy7999> eck: yup
[10:02] <eck> buddy7999: install libpam-keyring and look at this: http://www.hekanetworks.com/index.php/publisher/articleview/frmArticleID/25/staticId/31/
[10:02] <xelados> 101 megabytes!?
[10:03] <xelados> son of a..
[10:03] <omegabeta> Question : Where can i go to customise the icons and stick them in the tray, without them dissapearing if i delete their respective shortcuts
[10:03] <eck> i just found out about that today
[10:03] <xelados> Well, looks like I'm not gonna see D2 for a little while.
[10:03] <eck> i think the keyring password has to be the same as your login password to work though
[10:03] <omegabeta> ie, I get a shortcut - drag and drop it in to the tray (for i.e kvirc) but when i delete it after that (the one still on the desktop) the other one goes at next boot
[10:03] <buddy7999> gah, its a pretty annoying feature...
[10:04] <ethernal> i'm just popping in to ask, did they remove xfs support in the latest kernel? since software update i cant mount my root fs according to boot?
[10:04] <eck> xelados: time to give up on reliving your glory days?
[10:04] <xelados> Eh, it's just a download I have to wait on.
[10:04] <xelados> I need to get further in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon anyway.
[10:06] <eck> ethernal: i doubt it. if they did it is surely a bug
[10:06] <eck> check launchpad?
[10:06] <buddy7999> is there any way to make desktop icons overlap windows?
[10:06] <buddy7999> i want to have a terminal wallpaper
[10:06] <omegabeta> hah, thats genius
[10:06] <ethernal> eck: cheers mate, i thought it was rather weird
[10:07] <omegabeta> passive terminal wallpaper that you can shift+right click to activate
[10:07] <buddy7999> yeah
[10:07] <omegabeta> that would be awsome
[10:07] <buddy7999> i have one right now
[10:07] <buddy7999> transparent and everything
[10:07] <eck> i think there are a fair amount of XFS users, especially in server environments, so i can't picture support for it being removed
[10:07] <buddy7999> but it just blocks my icons
[10:07] <omegabeta> oh ok
[10:07] <buddy7999> i want my icons to have precedence over that window
[10:07] <buddy7999> it looks pretty nice
[10:08] <buddy7999> esp when i have a
[10:08] <buddy7999> watch netstat
[10:08] <buddy7999> going
[10:08] <eck> buddy7999: i highly doubt you can do that in gnome
[10:08] <eck> maybe if you completely disable nautilus
[10:08] <eck> if you want to do that you will have to use fluxbox or a WM like that
[10:09] <buddy7999> ah
[10:09] <buddy7999> i just had an idea
[10:09] <buddy7999> ill just make that window a bit smaller
[10:09] <buddy7999> and have the icons on ecah side
[10:09] <xelados> Fluxbox?
[10:09] <xelados> ooooh
[10:09] <xelados> Love that WM
[10:09] <xelados> I practically swear by it.
[10:11] <SnrWhippy> what is fluxbox?
[10:11] <eck> !fluxbox
[10:11] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:11] <buddy7999> responsive as in fast?
[10:12] <eck> it is about as responsive as metacity
[10:12] <eck> i don't think there's a whole lot to improve on in that arena
[10:12] <eck> (metacity being the gnome WM)
[10:12] <super> How can I remove a stubborn file that resides on an NTFS drive?  sudo rm -rf doesn't work.  I keep getting "operation not permitted"...changing the owner from root to my user doesn't work either.  Need help!!
[10:13] <eck> super: is the filesystem mounted read only?
[10:13] <buddy7999> idk, Ive actually never really experienced a responsive WM in linux
[10:13] <buddy7999> they seem to have a slight lag somewhere
[10:13] <eck> buddy7999: well when i cick a window it gets focus immediately
[10:13] <eck> and it moves across the screen pretty well
[10:13] <eck> that's pretty much all the wm does
[10:13] <super> eck: no, it's mounted with fuse (using ntfs-3g) ... it's read/writeable  ...just wrote a file to the drive, so I know it's writable btw
[10:14] <buddy7999> like when i switch between a windows xp machine and a *nix box i feel that the windows are smoother in the former
[10:14] <eck> super: lsattr? i highly doubt it, but it's a possibility it has some attribute set
[10:14] <SnrWhippy> i've gone from metacity to beryl
[10:14] <SnrWhippy> it looks pretty im sure ill get bored of it soon
[10:15] <super> eck: i'll check, but I don't believe it's immutable or the like...brb
[10:15] <eck> buddy7999: fluxbox can't paint windows any more quickly, that's all i'm trying to say
[10:15] <martiinezz> hi folks what can be wrong if my apache serves ISO-8859-2 files not as expected?
[10:15] <eck> at the end of the day, that's always done by X11
[10:16] <valehru> Hey guys, I installed php5 on edgy.  I tried going into a wordpress installation and Im getting the error:
[10:16] <valehru> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 368640 bytes)
[10:16] <buddy7999> ah
[10:16] <martiinezz> hi folks what can be wrong if my apache serves ISO-8859-2 files not as expected?
[10:16] <eck> valehru: maybe you have a ulimit set
[10:16] <valehru> eck, where would that be set?
[10:17] <buddy7999> oh well
[10:17] <eck> ulimit -a
[10:17] <buddy7999> im using beryl right now anyway
[10:17] <super> eck: lsattr is only for linux file systems, no?  anyway, can't see anything, it says "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on"
[10:17] <buddy7999> im beginning to think the cube is more eye candy than anything useful
[10:17] <eck> super: i guess so, it has to be supported by the filesystem but i'm not sure if fuse emulates that or not
[10:18] <buddy7999> but maybe when i get up to my proficiency in *nix i can make real use of it
[10:18] <buddy7999> maybe itll somehow make my code more managed!
[10:18] <valehru> eck, soz for the spam in the window
[10:18] <eck> valehru: do you see the problem :-)
[10:18] <SnrWhippy> yeah im with you on that eye candy bit
[10:19] <eck> 8192*1024 = 8388608
[10:19] <SnrWhippy> but it is nice for converting people
[10:19] <super> eck: here's something interesting also, I've tried removing these files from Windows as well, to no avail.  There are located in .Trash folders/directories if that helps...I can't move them though
[10:19] <buddy7999> also, im not sure about anyone else
[10:19] <buddy7999> scrolling is a big laggy
[10:19] <buddy7999> using beryl
[10:19] <jussi01> buddy7999, thats weird, its one of the only things about beryl i find useful
[10:19] <eck> valehru: ulimit is provided by bash, the documentation can be read by running 'help ulimit'
[10:19] <valehru> eck, not exactly.
[10:19] <buddy7999> yeah alot of the other stuff I find too Mac-ish
[10:19] <buddy7999> than useful
[10:20] <valehru> eck, stack size or open files?
[10:20] <buddy7999> im sure beryl will be putting the kaibash on Xgl for hte laggyness
[10:20] <eck> stack size
[10:21] <jussi01> buddy7999, you should probably take this to offtopic #unbuntuforums
[10:21] <bullgard2> Can you please tell me what is 'freenode-connect' in Gaim? I did not find a definition.
[10:21] <buddy7999> its the irc server
[10:21] <buddy7999> this irc server to be more specific bullgard2
[10:22] <bullgard2> buddy7999: Thank you. I wil think about it.
[10:22] <eck> bullgard2: that's gaim showing you that you have connected to the freenode irc server
[10:23] <buddy7999> eck whats the difference between a restart
[10:23] <buddy7999> and a logout
[10:23] <jussi01> !offtopic | buddy7999
[10:23] <ubotu> buddy7999: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:23] <jussi01> oops
[10:23] <jussi01> sorry buddy7999
[10:23] <buddy7999> no worries
[10:23] <eck> buddy7999: well, restarting will restart all of the programs on your computer obviously, logging out will only end the ones associated with your login session
[10:23] <buddy7999> I seem to be alot more unstable with Beryl
[10:23] <buddy7999> and logouts
[10:24] <buddy7999> actually more unstable in general
[10:24] <SnrWhippy> heres a question after installing beryl ive lost my shutdown and restart buttons
[10:24] <buddy7999> often times it doesnt even finish the logout
[10:24] <buddy7999> SnrWhippy, i think thats Xgl
[10:24] <jussi01> buddy7999, you should consider compiz - it is going to be included in feisty
[10:24] <super> eck: thanks for trying to help.  if you or anyone else has any other ideas, please let me know...I'll be on for a while.  Thanks!
[10:24] <buddy7999> really?
[10:24] <buddy7999> i thought beryl was the more popular one
[10:25] <eck> buddy7999: tbh, i wouldn't be using beryl. if you really want stable, use metacity, and if you want the eye candy compiz is much more stable (and performant)
[10:25] <SnrWhippy> interesting
[10:25] <jussi01> super, I just arrived what the prob?
[10:25] <bullgard2> eck: Thank you for explaining.
[10:25] <eck> bullgard2: no problem
[10:25] <valehru> eck, I just increased the php memory in php.ini to 24M.  That did the trick
[10:25] <eck> valehru: i don't know much about PHP, but i know highly threaded applications tend to run out of stack space very quickly
[10:25] <super> jussi01: How can I remove a stubborn file that resides on an NTFS drive?  sudo rm -rf doesn't work.  I keep getting "operation not permitted"...changing the owner from root to my user doesn't work either.  Need help!!
[10:25] <jussi01> !compiz | buddy7999
[10:25] <ubotu> buddy7999: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:26] <buddy7999> yeah Ive tried compiz
[10:26] <buddy7999> it isnt as stable as beryl on my machine
[10:26] <buddy7999> for some reason it keeps installing twice
[10:26] <jussi01> super, have you tried doing sudo nautilus, then removing it through nautilus?
[10:26] <buddy7999> ive tried apt-get --purge
[10:26] <archives> hi, on the cmd line, how do i see the size of a partition?
[10:26] <buddy7999> but after reinstalling i find that when i do 'compiz --ver'
[10:26] <_`XeOn_> how do i install .rpm files?
[10:27] <buddy7999> i have two return versions
[10:27] <super> jussi01: no, but the command line is my friend :-)
[10:27] <buddy7999> both the same version
[10:27] <eck> buddy7999: well, that's a packaging issue, not a compiz issue, although i guess on the user end of things there isn't much difference
[10:27] <gordonjcp> _`XeOn_: alien
[10:27] <jussi01> buddy7999, did you try compiz from the repos?
[10:27] <_`XeOn_> alien?
[10:27] <gordonjcp> yup
[10:27] <buddy7999> what are repos?
[10:27] <mackinac> archives:   df -h
[10:27] <eck> _`XeOn_: alien doesnt' really work that well, but in theory yes
[10:27] <buddy7999> i just use the deb from my source list
[10:27] <super> jussi01: but to humor myself, I'll try it...
[10:27] <_`XeOn_> oh well now i got confused
[10:28] <jussi01> !repositaries
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <eck> _`XeOn_: if you can, you're better off compiling the application than trying to hack it with alien
[10:28] <buddy7999> !repos
[10:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:28] <ddd>  
[10:28] <eck> !ru
[10:28] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:28] <jussi01> cause the repo compiz is broken - get gandalfn version
[10:28] <_`XeOn_> i have no idea what u said
[10:28] <ALL4N> hi all, I want to be able to synchronise my laptop files with my desktop files automatically. I've looked into unison and rsync, but ifolder seems to be the best solution since the laptop is not always on the network. I am having problems installing ifolder though, so I'm wondering what others here are doing to keep the computers synchronised..  any suggestions?
[10:29] <buddy7999> ah, so i have been using repos all along
[10:29] <eck> _`XeOn_: if you have the option of downloading the source code and downloading an RPM, you are better off downloading the source code and compiling it
[10:29] <super> jussi01: no dice.  i'll be here if you have any other suggestions.  these files are somehow stuck.  oh well.
[10:29] <_`XeOn_> its just the rpm
[10:29] <bullgard2> eck: Can I safely delete the tab 'freenode-connect' after having read its message?
[10:30] <buddy7999> shoudl apt-get always be my first choice for installing programs?
[10:30] <eck> bullgard2: yes
[10:30] <eck> i believe so
[10:30] <buddy7999> or is compiling from source better with odds?
[10:30] <bullgard2> OK, thank you.
[10:30] <eck> buddy7999: normally you would only compile if you need a newer version, or you want to apply a patch (or the package is not in the repos)
[10:31] <eck> it comes up sometimes
[10:31] <george> i just tried installing with the alternate i386 cd.. (desktop cd didn't work with video card/monitor).. when it got past installing Base System it kept giving me setup encountered and error, you may select another item from the list and skip this item on "Installing additional software" and "Install Grub".. checked the CD and it tested fine.. any ideas?
[10:31] <eck> for example, today i had to compile screen because the version packaged with ubuntu was not compiled with a configure option i needed
[10:31] <buddy7999> ah
[10:31] <buddy7999> do you know how i can find the command line associated with my desktop icons?
[10:31] <gharz> guys. i'm planning to install beryl on my machine (using intel graphics driver i810). when i modified my xorg.conf and added Load "dbe" and then restart gdm... it doens't work. the system hangs. anybody have an idea?
[10:32] <gharz> please helpo
[10:32] <buddy7999> like the synonymous command it would run in terminal?
[10:32] <eck> buddy7999: the desktop icons are painted by nautilus
[10:32] <eck> oh, i misunderstood your question
[10:32] <eck> i think you can right click them to see
[10:32] <eck> gharz: do you know how to switch to a VT?
[10:32] <eck> gharz: try switching out iwth ctrl-alt-f1
[10:32] <eck> gharz: then you can edit your xorg.conf and fix it
[10:33] <buddy7999> ah strange, for some reason if they're on the taskbar they dont show the 'properties' optoin
[10:33] <buddy7999> but when they're on the desktop they do...
[10:33] <eck> george: the error was with installing grub?
[10:33] <george> grub or Additional Software
[10:33] <george> I didn't try Lilo
[10:34] <eck> george: well if the main portion of the install completed you can do the grub part by hand
[10:34] <eck> george: you can switch to another vt (i think number 2) and run something like grub-install /dev/hda
[10:34] <gharz> eck: let me just check.
[10:35] <Rasiote> or try apt-get install grub
[10:35] <eck> george: can you fix this if the grub install gets borked?
[10:35] <george> i would use /dev/hda3 for the 3rd scsi drive?
[10:35] <Rasiote> it should fix problem
[10:35] <eck> Rasiote: this is in the installer
[10:35] <george> I have an acronis image of my windows install on a seperate hard drive if the mbr gets fucked
[10:36] <eck> george: ok, i will try to walk you through doing it manually
[10:36] <eck> switch to a VT and run mount and see where the install target is mounted
[10:36] <innu> Feisty - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=374201 mysql error or smth. maybe someone can tell me how to fix it
[10:36] <eck> i think it is something like /mnt/target
[10:36] <buddy7999> what are the keyshortcuts for logging out?
[10:36] <buddy7999> ctrl alt backspace, are there others?
[10:37] <Rasiote> ctrl backspace
[10:37] <buddy7999> because i keep getting logged out when i type in termal
[10:37] <eck> buddy7999: ctrl alt backspace restarts X, it doesn't really do a clean logout
[10:37] <buddy7999> ah
[10:37] <ALL4N> what are the common practices for synchronizing files between laptop and desktop?
[10:37] <eck> buddy7999: you should only use it if X is broken or you are not logged in
[10:37] <julien_> how i can see whick process is running ?
[10:37] <buddy7999> are there other exit key strokes?
[10:37] <george> pretty sure it was /dev/hda3 but i'll use mount to check
[10:37] <SnrWhippy> yeah that would be useful
[10:37] <eck> ALL4N: is this just syncrhonizing email or what?
[10:38] <SnrWhippy> especially for me the man with no shutdown
[10:38] <SnrWhippy> graphical shutdown
[10:38] <eck> george: you need to see where the installer has mounted /dev/hda3
[10:38] <ALL4N> eck: synchronising files, such as documents/pictures
[10:38] <eck> ALL4N: i would just go with rsync
[10:38] <eck> ALL4N: or maybe put them on a server and use nfs
[10:38] <ALL4N> eck: hmm.. the problem is that rsync is not two-way
[10:39] <eck> ALL4N: you run it twice then
[10:39] <eck> swapping the src and dest
[10:39] <george> brb going to break out of my work laptop and get on IRC on that.. i appriciate the help eck
[10:39] <ALL4N> eck: problem with server is that it requires the laptop to be on network to use those files
[10:39] <NTNP> salut tlm
[10:40] <eck> ALL4N: it will be sort of a pain, but i don't really know of a great solution
[10:40] <eck> ALL4N: also, cvs/svn/whatever is an option
[10:41] <ALL4N> eck: I think there might be some issues with runnning rsync twice, if you delete files on one of the machines..  besides, I want it to be automatic, so I don't have to run script all the time. I have been thinking about making a script that checks for the presence of the laptop on the network every 5 minutes or so and then syncrhonise if it does.. but I am still in doubt about two-way sync with rsync
[10:42] <eck> ALL4N: it is possible to do two way rsync, but it is sort of complicated because there are a a few weird corner cases to work out
[10:42] <eck> it is much easier with a master/slave setup
[10:43] <eck> you can also set up something like subversion and have each client committing files to the svn server
[10:43] <ALL4N> eck: yeah, thats my concern.. the reason I need it to be automatic is because the laptop is my wive's, and she is running windows on it, so it needs to be automatic
[10:43] <eck> and when you want to sync up you just check out from svn
[10:43] <Flannel> eck: the only issue with SVN for normal data like that is that it'll end up taking twice as much space
[10:44] <ALL4N> eck: particularly for pictures.. because I use my digital cam, and she has cam on her phone, so both of us would add pictures every once in a while, on both systems
[10:45] <ALL4N> I think ifolder is a really good solution for this though, but I can't build it.. besides I'm running xfce, and I don't think it integrates with Thunar
[10:45] <ALL4N> only nautilus  :(
[10:46] <eck> ALL4N: i think without a third computer you are going to have to hack together a solution with shell scripts
[10:46] <gharz> eck: i found the problem with xorg.conf... Load "dbe" and Serverlayout option "aiglx" true cause the problem.
[10:46] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, where can I find screensaver settings?
[10:47] <ALL4N> eck: hmm, was afraid that would be the case, its a shame though that there are no good solutions for this, soo many ppl have primary/secondary computers these days
[10:47] <ALL4N> where they do on and off the wireless network all the time, so file-servers are really not the solution
[10:47] <eck> ALL4N: is ifolder a webdav solution?
[10:48] <gharz> does anybody have an idea what Load "dbe" suppose to do in xorg.conf? i'm planning to install Aiglx and beryl. Load "dbe" causes a problem with my x window.
[10:48] <eck> gharz: i believe it is actually turned on by default
[10:48] <ALL4N> eck: not sure, its a server/client solution from novell. You build a server, and then your clients all synchronise to this every once in a while. its open source, but there are no packages for ubuntu at this time..
[10:49] <eck> ALL4N: ok, well if it is what i think it is, it is a lot like using cvs/svn
[10:49] <gharz> eck: and how about the Section "Serverlayout" Option "AIGLX" "True" EndSection also cause the problem to hang.
[10:49] <eck> with a simplified interface because you don't really care about changes
[10:49] <ALL4N> eck: not really, because the synchronisation is totally automatic
[10:49] <gharz> i tried adding these lines separately just to test the xorg if what happens if these lines are not included.
[10:49] <cable_guy> hi
[10:50] <ALL4N> eck: what you do is to set up a folder on server using a config tool, and then point this folder to a local folder.. everything you drop in local folder is automatically synced with that folder on server
[10:50] <cable_guy> has anyone had any success in getting eye candy desktop effects to work in feisty 5?
[10:50] <ALL4N> eck: and then you share that folder with others..
[10:50] <DaveTarmac> morning everyone.
[10:50] <ALL4N> cable_guy: what eye candy?
[10:50] <Flannel> cable_guy: You might try #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <cable_guy> thx
[10:50] <ALL4N> DaveTarmac: morning
[10:51] <bullgard2> eck: What is in Gaim the tab 'ChanServ'? Can I safely delete this tab also after having read its message? Why does the freenode irc server open up so many new tabs so that my screen is clobbered?
[10:51] <cable_guy> exit
[10:53] <george> eck: running through the install again and the error hasn't came up again yet. its at 6% now on Select and Install software
[10:53] <eck> bullgard2: this is another IRC feature, and you can safely delete the tab. I am not sure why Freenode sends so messages to clients. it might be better to try a different IRC client (like XChat) which is better suited for use with IRC
[10:53] <omegabeta> what does this mean? "Software failure, press left mouse button to continue : Guru meditation"
[10:53] <eck> omegabeta: wow, what gave you that?
[10:53] <ALL4N> omegabeta: haha, thats from Amiga  :)
[10:54] <omegabeta> eck: my old box upstairs
[10:54] <omegabeta> eck: oh, and by old.. i mean.. real..real old
[10:54] <ALL4N> omegabeta: 68030?
[10:54] <omegabeta> ALL4N: lol yep..
[10:55] <ALL4N> omegabeta: :D
[10:55] <omegabeta> ALL4N: Nice guess man..
[10:55] <george> sweet i think its installing now..
[10:55] <ALL4N> omegabeta: it was a lucky one
[10:56] <george> i havnt used linux in i think 6 years :(
[10:57] <eck> george: if the error comes up again, try to determine whether it is before or after all the packages have been installed. if it is afterwards, fixing it is pretty easy
[10:57] <omegabeta> I miss the days of opening an image (oh, I meant "Rendering" an image) where you'd come back an hour later and it would nearly be done
[10:57] <omegabeta> wait.. no i dont
[10:57] <eck> if it gets most of the way through you can also probably fix it
[10:57] <george> its configuring a ton of little apps currently on Select and Install software.. at 70% and chugging away
[10:58] <george> last time it stopped at 2%
[10:58] <bullgard2> eck: Thank you very much for your complete explanation.
[10:59] <george> this is more fun then mucking around learning the new vista group policy fud by 100x
[11:00] <eck> i bet
[11:03] <george> it just finnished installing grub
[11:03] <andytayloruk> hu
[11:03] <andytayloruk> *hi
[11:03] <andytayloruk> I recently installed ubuntu 6.10
[11:03] <andytayloruk> and its all good, installed fine, running ok
[11:03] <farid> Hi
[11:03] <andytayloruk> but its just a bit slow. dvds are choppy, window dragging is laggy, its all noticeably slow
[11:04] <jussi01> !enter | andytayloruk
[11:04] <ubotu> andytayloruk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:04] <farid> how do you configure the webcam ?
[11:04] <innu> Feisty - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=374201 mysql error or smth. maybe someone can tell me how to fix it
[11:04] <GeBo> @andytayloruk: what graphics card are you using?
[11:04] <andytayloruk> I have a feeling its something to do with my graphics card but I don't know how to update it or whatever. Its an ATI Mobility M7 16mb card. Ran windows xp pro just fine
[11:04] <Shaffox> !webcam | farid
[11:04] <ubotu> farid: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:05] <jussi01> innu, feisty support is in #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <GeBo> @andytayloruk: you must install the drivers for the ATI card
[11:05] <jussi01> !envy | andytayloruk
[11:05] <ubotu> andytayloruk: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[11:05] <farid> thanks ubotu
[11:05] <jussi01> !ubotu | andytayloruk
[11:05] <ubotu> andytayloruk: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:05] <jussi01> !ubotu | andytayloruk
[11:06] <jussi01> sorry andy
[11:06] <andytayloruk> tis ok. thanks for the info :)
[11:06] <andytayloruk> so on a fresh system there would be no drivers at all?
[11:06] <jussi01> was meant for farid...:D
[11:06] <jussi01> andy, there ore the open drivers
[11:06] <george> Grub Loading, please wait.... [new line]  Error 17
[11:06] <jussi01> but most peeople want the ones from ati
[11:06] <jussi01> !grub | george
[11:06] <ubotu> george: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:07] <GeBo> @andytayloruk: for my NVidia card it was, but for Ati I don't think so...
[11:07] <andytayloruk> so will this speed things up?
[11:07] <jussi01> andytayloruk, should...
[11:07] <andytayloruk> I remember with knoppix it was much faster
[11:07] <andytayloruk> and that was a live cd...
[11:08] <jussi01> andytayloruk, yeah, different ditros have diferent things on them
[11:09] <directhex> i'm having a problem with massive high load on my new dapper box, whilst copying from usb to disk
[11:09] <farid> How can I get only the required updates instead of all 124 shown ?
[11:10] <directhex> farid, all shown updates are for things on your system
[11:10] <farid> but its very large download
[11:10] <DaveTarmac> Last night I *finally* managed to get internet access with my Ubuntu box and MadWifi drivers. I successfully updated it and got the n-m-g down. I turned it on this morning however, and it hasn't automatically connected to the network. Did I forget to commit changes to the system, and if so, how do i do that?
[11:11] <GeBo> @farid: AFAIK with apt-get install <packetname> in a terminal
[11:11] <directhex> it probably includes massive things like openoffice
[11:11] <mau> anybody know of a good beryl skydome resource?
[11:11] <farid> I have openoffice already
[11:11] <directhex> GeBo's correct
[11:11] <directhex> farid, yes. a version which requires a stability or security update
[11:11] <farid> I dont need that
[11:11] <farid> only use the PP thingy
[11:12] <alta> wow this channel has grown since I was last here
[11:13] <GeBo> @farid: You only want Presentation from the OpenOffice.org packet? I don't think that is possible
[11:13] <farid> I have it
[11:13] <farid> dont need updates for openoffice
[11:13] <farid> I want KDE 3.5.6
[11:13] <farid> how do I get it
[11:14] <directhex> kde is also an enormous package
[11:14] <farid> I am using the 7.04
[11:14] <farid> its about 30 mb
[11:14] <omegabeta> !search opera
[11:14] <ubotu> Found: kernel, vista, samba, lsb, gnu, opera, virtualizers, xen, ubuntu, thunderbird
[11:14] <farid> i can manage that#
[11:14] <eck> george: have you seen this? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[11:14] <omegabeta> !search addbot
[11:14] <ubotu> Found:
[11:15] <directhex> farid, did you try what GeBo said yet? apt-get install kde. or apt-get install kdebase if that doesn't help
[11:15] <omegabeta> !search bot
[11:15] <ubotu> Found: etiquette-#ubuntu-offtopic, etiquette, 11:57]  <ubotu> strigi, ubotu, help, bot, thunderbird, ops-#kubuntu, yourself, brain
[11:15] <directhex> gah i came here FOR help, not TO help
[11:15] <omegabeta> !brain
[11:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:15] <farid> ok will try
[11:15] <george> i messed up some where and installed grub on scsi1, where ubuntu is installed on scsi3
[11:15] <farid> thanks
[11:15] <farid> you people are really helpful
[11:15] <eck> george: you want grub on the device itself, not a partition
[11:16] <eck> e.g. /dev/sda not /dev/sda3
[11:16] <george> i have 3 hard drives
[11:16] <eck> oh, i see
[11:16] <eck> ok, i think it is easy to fix
[11:16] <kling0n> what is the syntax to get apt-get to reinstall all dependencies for a given package when doing something like "apt-get --reinstall install foobar" ?
[11:16] <george> i'm in the recovery mode from the ubuntu cd
[11:16] <eck> in grub, press e, and change the root command
[11:17] <GeBo> @directhex: sorry, didn't see your question... Have you tried restarting gdm?
[11:17] <LittleBear> Cannot install from LiveCD at all. Get first sreen, then PS2 mouse and keyboard freeze. See many others having problems. Any fix to try?
[11:17] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, where can I find screensaver settings?
[11:17] <george> in the grub install eck?
[11:17] <eck> george: so you are in the new ubuntu environment?
[11:18] <directhex> GeBo, logged in over ssh. there are no gsm sessions running
[11:18] <GeBo> ow, ok
[11:18] <george> sorry i'm really a newb eck, aplogizing for that first off lol
[11:18] <eck> first of all, are you in the rescue mode or at the grub prompt?
[11:19] <george> i never get to the grub prompt, right after it says Grub loading it gave the error
[11:19] <foxy123> my wife left my laptop running on battery and it switched off when I was logging into my account (I have not notiiced that it was unplugged)
[11:19] <foxy123> and now I canot log in
[11:20] <GeBo> @direxthex: copying from usb to disk over the network?
[11:20] <foxy123> I do not have gdm welcome screen anymore
[11:20] <directhex> GeBo, no. directly plugged in
[11:20] <george> I just restarted the PC after that and booted to the ubuntu alternate CD. went to Rescue a broken system. then got a command prompt on the ubuntu /
[11:20] <GeBo> directhex: then how, ssh?
[11:20] <directhex> GeBo, yes.
[11:20] <GeBo> how?
[11:21] <Arcad3> is there a tutorial in how to install cgi-bin to apache?
[11:21] <eck> george: do you know what device ubuntu is on?
[11:21] <foxy123> it tries 6 times and then says that something wrong
[11:21] <MistaED> edward_: blender
[11:21] <Arcad3> !cgi-bin
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cgi-bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <george> phsyically its the 3rd scsi (sata) drive
[11:21] <directhex> GeBo, um, with cp?
[11:21] <Arcad3> !cgi
[11:21] <GeBo> directhex: or do you mean tty?
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <foxy123> what I can do is to log in in console and stop gdm from trying
[11:21] <edward_> Thanks Ed
[11:21] <edward_> anything else?
[11:21] <eck> george: uh, do you know if the rescue mode found the old install or just dropped you into a shell
[11:22] <foxy123> then I have to use my wife's account to get into graphic mode
[11:22] <george> put me in a shell
[11:22] <Arcad3> someone can help me install cgi-bin to apache2?
[11:22] <foxy123> any help?
[11:22] <Arcad3> foxy123:use the command "startx"
[11:22] <MistaED> edward_: there's softimage xsi and maya but they're commercial, k3d is promising but not mature and wings3d i think is just for modelling
[11:22] <GeBo> @directhex: or is the usb on another pc?
[11:22] <foxy123> that what I use
[11:23] <eck> george: ok, reboot the computer and when you get to the grub prompt press 'e' on the menu entry
[11:23] <eck> this will let you edit the parameters grub will use when booting
[11:23] <foxy123> but in my account it does not start X
[11:23] <eck> george: then what you are going to do is specify the correct device for grub to boot from
[11:24] <directhex> GeBo, "directhex@despair:~$ cp -r /media/usbdisk/RAID/ ."
[11:24] <eck> i will help you with that when you get to the grub screen
[11:24] <RomeReactor> edward: maya _is_ commercial, but has a free version
[11:24] <GeBo> @directhex: looks like a terminal screen to me...
[11:24] <foxy123> I think hat something got corrupted when the laptop switched off, but I have no idea what
[11:25] <george> after the computer goes through post and boots from the drive it says "Grub Loading stage 1.5\n, Grub loading please wait...\n Error 17" tried pressing E through the whole boot and got nothing
[11:25] <GeBo> @directhex: and you're sure gnome is not running?
[11:25] <tylersmith> I'm running Gnome and KDE is installed, also. I want to remove KDE. How do I do this?
[11:26] <directhex> GeBo, i'll stop GDM, just for you
[11:26] <GeBo> @directhex: maybe better restart
[11:26] <directhex> load average 1.80
[11:26] <eck> george: damn, i misinterpreted where the problem is. go back into the rescue cd, and then you have to mount your old installation and then you can re-run the grub install command
[11:27] <directhex> load average 3.18
[11:27] <george> eck: ah ok, booting to the cd currently
[11:27] <GeBo> @directhex: I had some strange high cpu load, which ended when I restarted gdm
[11:27] <directhex> load average 5.00
[11:27] <directhex> GeBo, gdm isn't running
[11:28] <GeBo> @directhex: you're running from tty(1) then?
[11:28] <eck> george: when you get into the shell, you can figure out the correct device and partition number by trying a command like: fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[11:29] <eck> george: you should see the partitions and it should be clear which one is a linux partition
[11:29] <directhex> GeBo, pts2. i'm logged in via ssh
[11:29] <eck> it might also be sda or sdb
[11:30] <george> ok
[11:30] <george> eck: /dev/dsc1 Boot *
[11:30] <george> sdc*
[11:32] <george> eck i see wher ei fucked up.. i installed grub orginally to my 250 drive which is just one big ntfs partition
[11:32] <eck> george: ok, try this
[11:32] <eck> mkdir /mnt/ubuntu
[11:32] <eck> mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ubuntu
[11:32] <eck> chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[11:32] <GeBo> @directhex: did you use that usb device before, or is it the first time, or has it always high load?
[11:32] <eck> that should drop you into the grub install
[11:32] <eck> in a shell of course
[11:33] <eck> err the ubuntu install is what it will drop you into
[11:34] <Plumachau> Hello
[11:35] <eck> hello
[11:35] <Plumachau> does anyone speak French ?
[11:35] <eck> not me
[11:35] <Chousuke> !fr
[11:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:35] <Plumachau> Ok, thanks
[11:35] <directhex> GeBo, the disk was filled by a windows machine. i'll try it on my desktop
[11:36] <GeBo> @directhex: but have you tried that device in this situation before?
[11:36] <george> ok i'm at root@ubuntu:/#
[11:36] <GeBo> @directhex: maybe it is driver related
[11:37] <eck> george: now type grub
[11:37] <eck> that will put you into a grub shell
[11:37] <eck> where you can manually configure it
[11:37] <erikja> !dk >erikja
[11:37] <george> Error opening Terminal: bterm
[11:37] <wardy_> hi, can some 1 please tell me how i shre / bridge my internet conncetion with another?
[11:38] <wardy_> share*
[11:38] <eck> george: try: export TERM=linux
[11:38] <eck> and then retry the command
[11:38] <Arcad3> can someone help me with cgi-bin for apache?
[11:38] <george> eck grub>
[11:38] <george> eck: thank you a ton btw
[11:39] <andytayloruk> hi
[11:39] <andytayloruk> I just tried to use envy to update my ATI Mobility M7, and it said my card was not supported by the driver. Is there any other way of updating my driver?
[11:39] <eck> george: actually quit the shell
[11:39] <eck> just with quit
[11:40] <eck> and look at the output of: ls -l /dev/sd*
[11:40] <GeBo> @Arcad3: have you tried to read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/cgi.html
[11:40] <eck> basically in the grub shell you want to enter these commands, but you need to make sure the device nodes exist on the system, which i am not sure thet they will atm in the chroot. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8350/
[11:41] <eck> so you need to verify that you have /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc in the chroot with the ls command
[11:41] <george> with ls -l /dev/sd* there was like 255 entries
[11:41] <directhex> GeBo, high load average on the machine when copying over smb. it's looking like an issue with the local storage rather than the usb storage
[11:41] <eck> george: try fdisk -l /dev/sda and see if that looks like your first scsi disk or if its just garbace
[11:42] <eck> *garbage
[11:42] <wardy> how do i setup a network bridge?
[11:42] <eck> wardy: you get a router
[11:42] <jahid> hi, i tried to install windows true type font in my ubunuto with this command "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts", but i get  message
[11:42] <jahid> can any one help me about this?
[11:42] <eck> you don't want to do it in software, it will be a pita
[11:42] <george> that is my first scsi disk (250gb ntfs part that i installed grub on by accident)
[11:43] <eck> ok, then go back into grub and enter the commands i pastebinned
[11:43] <george> which is fine, grub can stay on there just as long as i point it to the right parts
[11:43] <eck> do you know how to use vi?
[11:44] <eck> well if not you can use nano
[11:44] <GeBo> @directhex: ok, looks complicated... sorry I couldn't be of more help
[11:44] <eck> afterwards you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:44] <eck> and you need to make sure the devices listed there are also correct
[11:44] <hermit_> Hi I am having trouble  copying files to my usb portable drive, I keep getting this error: cannot create regular file `/media/usbdisk/linux/cedega-small_5.2.3_all.deb': Read-only file system
[11:44] <eck> on the lines where it shows ubuntu menu entries, you want them to look like (hd2,0)
[11:45] <eck> er, let me rephrase that
[11:45] <Ademan> anyone know if there are alternative compilers to gcc on ubuntu?
[11:45] <Ademan> (including non-free ones)
[11:45] <eck> Ademan: icc
[11:45] <eck> that is the only one i know of
[11:45] <eck> it is made by intel
[11:46] <Ademan> ah cool, i didn't know if the intel compiler existed for linux
[11:46] <eck> hermit_: you need to remount the system writable
[11:46] <eck> hermit_: e.g. mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[11:47] <eck> george: on the lines that say root (hd****), you need to make sure that it is (hd2**) for the ubuntu entries
[11:47] <eck> to make sure that grub is using (hd2), which is the third device
[11:47] <eck> after that you should be able to exit out of everything and reboot
[11:48] <DaveTarmac> gah! I'm getting really annoyed with this now. Why is everything such a process in linux? Why did my wireless network that was working fine last night stop working when i turned the computer on today?
[11:48] <eck> Ademan: it is only used very rarely
[11:48] <Ademan> yeah huge liscensing fee iirc
[11:48] <eck> Ademan: i know some high performance crypto/math appliactions use it because it is supposedly faster
[11:48] <andytayloruk> I really don't understand this. in xorg.conf its set my graphics card as  a Radeon Mobility 9000, but mine is a 75000
[11:48] <andytayloruk> *7500
[11:48] <george> when i do setup (hd2,0) it says 17: cannot mount selected partition
[11:49] <Ademan> you haven't used it have you?  I was wondering how the command line syntax compares to gcc
[11:49] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: Did you just get it working last night? If so, maybe you forgot to make something happen by default (like loading a module)?
[11:49] <eck> Ademan: i have not used it
[11:49] <Ademan> andytayloruk: that's just a name it doesn't change performance or anything, you can change it to the correct name but it won't make any difference
[11:49] <DaveTarmac> ok, how do i make it load modules by default?
[11:49] <andytayloruk> I'm sure there must be something wrong, performance sucks tbh
[11:49] <eck> george: quit the grub shell and then run fdisk -l /dev/sdc and make sure it looks like the third device
[11:50] <andytayloruk> and envy says the ati driver isnt compatible with my card
[11:50] <DaveTarmac> in the instructions i was following (http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo) it didn't say anything like that.
[11:50] <george> it is the 3rd device.. 2 linux partitions, one swap, one extended and one ntfs
[11:50] <Dr-Jon> hi
[11:50] <eck> george: and the first partition is where ubuntu is?
[11:51] <eck> or, where /boot is rather
[11:51] <george> im really not sure anymore, it might be the last
[11:52] <george> the first and last are both System: Linux
[11:52] <eck> george: well try that in grub and see if that makes it happy
[11:52] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: when you do  lsmod, do all of the modules show loaded?
[11:52] <eck> so that would be (hd2,3) i guess
[11:52] <george> ok
[11:52] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: I'll just check
[11:53] <DaveTarmac> i'm not sure. does MadWifi load by default when you install it?
[11:54] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: in general you need to add the modules you want loaded at boot time to /etc/modules
[11:54] <andytayloruk> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b < ---- what does that mean?
[11:54] <directhex> ignore it
[11:54] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: But I gotta go now for 15min or so.
[11:55] <eck> andytayloruk: you must have the same graphics card as me
[11:55] <DaveTarmac> Lynore: Ok, no doubt I'll still be here struggling through it
[11:55] <eck> it is not a problem
[11:55] <andytayloruk> eck: hm. well does your computer run relatively lagl
[11:55] <andytayloruk> *laggy?
[11:55] <Steven_M> hi all
[11:55] <eck> oh, you are using ati?
[11:56] <andytayloruk> yeap
[11:56] <Steven_M> is there an easy way to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure on all packages?
[11:56] <eck> no, i am using an intel graphics card
[11:56] <andytayloruk> eck: ah. ok. *sigh* I really don't get this
[11:57] <eck> andytayloruk: honestly, i would just give up on dri/drm... when i had a computer with an ati card it just caused more troubles than it was worth
[11:57] <eck> if you are lucky to have a well supported graphics card things work out of the box
[11:57] <andytayloruk> :/
[11:57] <eck> if you need the proprietary drivers its not worth the effort
[11:57] <andytayloruk> why is this only an ubuntu problem?
[11:58] <andytayloruk> every other live cd distribution ive used work fine
[11:58] <andytayloruk> detect the 7500 fine
[11:58] <andytayloruk> run much better
[11:58] <eck> you can copy the xorg.conf from these other distributions if you want
[11:58] <eck> if you are using the proprietary drivers they will be the same across all the distros anyway
[11:58] <andytayloruk> well knoppix does seem to have better hardware support
[11:59] <nja> hi! my friend had kubuntu edgy. after we've installed vlc, whenever he clicked on any folder it would open in vlc instead
[11:59] <nja> of konqueror
[12:00] <nja> looking up what proggies where associated with opening folders in konqueror, there were none
[12:00] <nja> any1 knows about this?
[12:00] <george> eck: its booting into ubuntu
[12:01] <george> the screen is all tan and orange lines
[12:01] <george> ctrl - alt f2 to get to a command prompt?
[12:02] <NKjoep> yes george
[12:02] <eck> george: if its booting into ubuntu then everything is working, right?
[12:02] <george> yes
[12:03] <george> cept i can't see anything now
[12:03] <george> sec ill take a picture w/ my digi cam
[12:03] <eck> george: just go back to X with ctrl-alt-f7
[12:04] <george> its all grey/white lines
[12:04] <george> i can see the command prompt, it moves when i type
[12:04] <NKjoep> so strange... what happened?
[12:04] <george> this is the same thing when i booted from the live cd
[12:04] <NKjoep> george: what's your video card?
[12:05] <wardy> hi, can anyone tell me how i bridge 2 connections please?
[12:05] <george> geforce 7950gt --> dell 20 widescreen flat panel hooked up through dvi
[12:05] <eck> george: that is outside of my expertise
[12:06] <george> ill try a different monitor in the morning.. thanks  a ton eck for all your help
[12:06] <george> you've really been awesome
[12:06] <jagga> hey all
[12:06] <eck> george: i'm glad to have helped
[12:06] <NKjoep> wardy: bridge how?
[12:06] <eck> i hope you have fun with ubuntu
[12:06] <george> i'll be back! good night for now
[12:06] <NKjoep> george: sorry i've got no experience with that hardware
[12:07] <jagga> i have Indian Reliance PCMCI
[12:07] <jagga> i have Indian Reliance PCMCIA Wireless modem card  want to configer the same in my ubutntu 6.10 any idea please
[12:08] <wardy> NKjoep: like a normal network bridge 2 LAN connections
[12:08] <NKjoep> wardy: ok, maybe i can help you.... :)
[12:09] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: (back now)
[12:09] <NKjoep> wardy: are netcard installad and working both?
[12:10] <NKjoep> wardy: if yes you have just to assign an ip and a subnetmask
[12:10] <wardy> NKjoep: yeah but ones my internet connection in if you like and the other is my xbox360, needs xbox live
[12:10] <jagga> i have Indian Reliance PCMCIA Wireless modem card  want to configer the same in my ubutntu 6.10 any idea please
[12:11] <matej> i have amd proc, do i have to install k7 kernel?
[12:12] <NKjoep> wardy: mhhh so in the pc is connected "internet" the other is the xbox.... how many eth do you have?
[12:12] <wardy> NKjoep: 2 eth0 (main) eth1 (xbox)
[12:14] <mackinac> matej:   its not a must ; if you use ubuntu => 6.10 generic kernel is recommended
[12:14] <matej> mackinac, couse? will it run faster or what?
[12:15] <Flannel> matej: if you have edgy, generic is the only kernel.  k7 doesn't exist
[12:15] <mackinac> matej:   what version of ubuntu
[12:15] <matej> oh..
[12:15] <matej> didnt know, sry
[12:15] <fen> can anyone here tell me what some commonly available wlan cards are that have native drivers for them? i know chipsets, but all the cards i see listed in compatability lists don't appear to be available in australia.
[12:15] <matej> what about nvidia, how to install? Long time i wasnt in Ubuntu..
[12:15] <Flannel> !nvidia | matej
[12:15] <ubotu> matej: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:15] <mackinac> generic only?
[12:16] <jagga> does any one know where will be the extranal driver
[12:16] <Flannel> mackinac: in edgy, yes.
[12:16] <matej> tnx
[12:16] <pi_> hi guys - I would like to make a streaming server from my personal webserver with edgy - any good howto?
[12:16] <gugu^> how to install HP Laser Jet 1018
[12:16] <jagga> does any one know where will be the extranal wireless card is
[12:16] <Flannel> matej: but, don't worry.  The -generic kernel has all the optomizations you'd get with the k7 anyway.
[12:16] <caccolangrifata> some problem with TSC sync
[12:17] <fen> anyone?
[12:17] <wardy> NKjoep: i have 2: eth0 (main) eth1 (xbox)
[12:17] <caccolangrifata> when Ubuntu start loadin stop to "checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs...help?
[12:17] <matej> Flannel, okey :D tnx
[12:17] <omegabeta> !kde
[12:17] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:18] <raven3x7> is there any way to get fullscreen to work with VLC?
[12:18] <omegabeta> !gnome
[12:18] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:18] <omegabeta> !xfce
[12:18] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:19] <elkbuntu> !mgsthebot | omegabeta
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[12:19] <elkbuntu> arg
[12:19] <elkbuntu> !msgthebot | omegabeta
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[12:19] <bullgard2> ubotu: What does the exclamation mark mean in your message "See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels"?
[12:20] <wardy> How do i bridge two LAN connections together?
[12:20] <elkbuntu> bullgard2, ubotu is a bot. the messages are factoids. factoids start with a !, so it is hinting other factoids
[12:20] <azrael__> bullgard2: ubotu is a bot. Putting just !ubuntu or !xubuntu-channels would activate the bot and have him send you more info.
[12:20] <nowhere> Hi, question... I tried to switch to ubuntu, have to say I like it a lot. One important problem though, could't get connected to my wireless network (WPA). I found it's possible to filter MAC addresses for the network via my router, does this provide enough security? Or is it only secure using signal encription?
[12:20] <Gyro54> How do I completely remove all traces of previous wireless cards prior to installing a new ralink card?
[12:21] <bullgard2>  elkbuntu: Thank you for explaining.
[12:21] <elkbuntu> bullgard2, no problem
[12:21] <finalbeta> nowhere: MAC filtering keeps others from using your network, WPA encryption keeps people from reading the data you send in the air
[12:21] <finalbeta> !wpa
[12:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:22] <StoneNote> wardy, http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[12:22] <nowhere> Ok so it won't make it secure..
[12:22] <wardy> ty
[12:22] <Gyro54> ta
[12:22] <nowhere> That sucks :<
[12:22] <Lynoure> finalbeta: MAC filtering is not very good at keeping others from using your network...
[12:22] <wardy> nowhere: the WPA makes it secure, but the MAC filter stops people from freely connecting to your router to use your internet
[12:22] <finalbeta> nowhere:  You "need" encryption, if not WPA? use WEP. But it's possible yet not easy to use WPA. The next ubuntu version comming in april will make WPA verry easy, if you are lucky with your card that is.
[12:23] <azrael__> Lynoure: In an average home network, it kind of does to some extent. You need some traffic to see the MAC, so if they drive by when you're not connected, they can't sniff a mac
[12:23] <finalbeta> Lynoure: I know, but with all due respect, most people are to dumb to circumvent it.
[12:23] <nowhere> finalbeta: WMP54G, rt2500 - am i going to be lucky? So far it has been a drama...
[12:23] <nowhere> finalbeta: My question was from a security point of view :)
[12:24] <finalbeta> nowhere: I have that card, on the next version it will work like a charm. But I had it working in Edgy 2
[12:24] <Lynoure> azrael__: Yes, but not to the extent that it would keep people who really want to use it from using it, if they hand around a bit.
[12:24] <nowhere> finalbeta: Can you provide me with the steps you used to get it working? Mine doesn't even detect the netwerk... With Dapper it did, but could only get it working using WEP...
[12:25] <finalbeta> !bcm43xx
[12:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:25] <Lynoure> finalbeta: I would say too lawabiding, not dumb.
[12:25] <azrael__> Lynoure: Sure, but WEP is crackable pretty easily if you are allowed to "hang around"
[12:25] <azrael__> Lynoure: WPA as well, but requires more hanging around.
[12:25] <Lynoure> azrael__: I would not recommend WEP either, really
[12:25] <nowhere> Not planning to use WEP here, I know how insecure it is.
[12:25] <finalbeta> nowhere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy << I used this guide, although the card will only run at 11Mbit that way. I had WPA working.
[12:26] <finalbeta> Lynoure: A little from column a, a little from column b ;)
[12:26] <nowhere> finalbeta: Is that for WMP54G?
[12:27] <finalbeta> Yes, that linksys card has a bcm43xx chip inside.
[12:27] <finalbeta> You probably bought it with your WRT54G? :p
[12:27] <nowhere> finalbeta: Mine has a ralink chipset.
[12:27] <azrael__> Lynoure: One of the things about those techniques though is that they all require substantial traffic. Most home networks don't produce enough traffic for them to get it without being really suspicious.
[12:27] <nowhere> finalbeta: I have a Siemens router.
[12:27] <finalbeta> !ralink
[12:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:28] <nowhere> finalbeta: I have tried that, didn't work...
[12:28] <wardy> StoneNote: i have downloaded the bridge souce code and extracted it, now what?
[12:28] <finalbeta> sry, don't know the status of that chip then. No idea if it will work on Fiesty, although they did serious improvements.
[12:28] <Lynoure> azrael__: I know. But most people do not notice the suspicious. Unfortunately.
[12:29] <finalbeta> It seems supported, try asking on the forums.
[12:30] <nowhere> finalbeta: Maybe I should wait for fiesty then, or a later version where using my rather popular card will work without trouble :)
[12:30] <Lynoure> I had no trouble getting WPA working even with Dapper
[12:30] <Lynoure> Is it harder on Edgy?
[12:30] <nowhere> I think it all depends on what card you have.
[12:31] <nowhere> And maybe also on how experienced you are with Linux/Ubuntu.
[12:32] <Lynoure> I think it pretty much just took throwing in knetworkmanager and commenting out the interface. But I did choose the hardware to be Linux-happy :)
[12:32] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: Sorry for my extended /away, but I've just checked the modules list and ath_pci is in it. I can scan for AP's, but can't seem to connect anymore
[12:32] <nowhere> Lynoure: Unfortunatly, you are wrong there...
[12:33] <Lynoure> nowhere: hmm?
[12:33] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: If it's any help, the guide i was working from is here, just so we can be looking at the same thing http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[12:33] <Lynoure> nowhere: I'm pretty sure that's all it took me.
[12:33] <nowhere> Lynoure: Oh just for you, sorry didn't read it very properly.. Little frustrated with my own situation I guess :)
[12:34] <jahid> is there anyone who can help me about my internet connection?
[12:34] <candyban_> I have 2 interfaces (dhcp) ... can I somehow force ubuntu to check the link status before it tries to get a lease on a particular card?
[12:34] <nowhere> jahid: Please state question/problem :)
[12:34] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: I took a quick look at it. Where the modules loaded? You should probably add them to /etc/modules if not
[12:35] <candyban_> Normally only one of the 2 interfaces will have a connection
[12:35] <jahid> nowhere, if i boot in windows then my machine works fine connecting to internet. if i boot in ubuntu, then the connection works fine for some time. but after that it just get numb
[12:35] <jahid> i am using DSL connection, and they maintain DHCP
[12:35] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: under the heading 'Loading the MadWiFi Module'. I looked at the lsmod list and ath_pci came under 'wlan'
[12:36] <Alfa> i'm new in linux platform and i've installed ubuntu x86 on amd proc my question is which book will good for me ? any sugg is welcome ty
[12:36] <jahid> nowhere, can you help me?
[12:38] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: and the wlan_scan_sta?
[12:38] <jahid> can anyone else help me please, this problem is just moving me back to windows. because you know that its not possible to stay without internet connection but its possible to stay without ubuntu
[12:38] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: under 'wlan' also
[12:38] <bobas_> d
[12:39] <gugu^> Please help to install HP LaserJet 1018
[12:39] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: Sorry, they're used by 'wlan'. do they need to be defined in /etc/modules as seperate entities?
[12:40] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: if they are loaded, they are loaded :)
[12:41] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: thought so. like i said earlier, I seem to be having trouble connecting to the AP with WEP
[12:41] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: oh, I missed that bit.
[12:42] <Narqulie> Um.. What am I supposed to do now? : -- checking for gcc... gcc
[12:42] <Narqulie> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[12:42] <Narqulie> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[12:43] <lafiel> Hi, apt-get update is failing for me both with the main repository and my local one. Anyone know if there is a problem with the servers?
[12:43] <jahid> can anyone tell me how to ask ubuntu to renew my ip address? here i want to mention that my internet service provider uses DHCP
[12:44] <deFrysk> lafiel, removal of the country-code in the sources.list lines usually helps
[12:44] <thcmonkey> anyone know a good forum with a howto for ubuntu to xp ics?
[12:44] <thcmonkey> google isn't proving very lucrative
[12:44] <lafiel> deFrysk: setting it to "main repository" seems to do that automatically. It always gets stuck at the same spot too :
[12:45] <lafiel> thcmonkey: with XP as the router?
[12:45] <thcmonkey> nah with ubuntu as gateway
[12:45] <thcmonkey> sharing via c/o
[12:46] <pierre__> How do i upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[12:46] <jahid> can anyone tell me how to ask ubuntu to renew my ip address? here i want to mention that my internet service provider uses DHCP
[12:46] <predaeus> jahid: sudo dhclient
[12:47] <thcmonkey> i wasn't sure if it was as simple as setting static ip to eth1 (xp facing card)... thought i might need to start a network services client or something
[12:47] <matej> i have one question..in vlc player, what is default audio volume .. from 0 to 1024 wtf? I dont what it means.
[12:47] <Joeeigel> Hey i have a problem installing Ubuntu, can some1 help?
[12:48] <thcmonkey> matej - at a guess set it at like 250 then play something and see what the volume's like
[12:48] <thcmonkey> if not loud enough
[12:48] <thcmonkey> keep upping it?
[12:48] <matej> thcmonkey, yes, but i dont know where is a line of good sound
[12:48] <matej> ?
[12:49] <lafiel> thcmonkey: Usually, firewall clients can sort you out. Stuff like firestarter, watchdog/guarddog etc.
[12:49] <predaeus> Joeeigel: just tell us what the problem is, if somebody knows, they'll help
[12:49] <Joeeigel> Its when im partitioning
[12:49] <thcmonkey> lafiel - cheers, dude.
[12:49] <thcmonkey> lafiel - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[12:49] <thcmonkey> found that
[12:49] <Joeeigel> It either sits there and does nothing, like it did all night
[12:49] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: Any ideas? As I said, following the instructions last night worked, but this morning it doesn't seem to want to play
[12:49] <lafiel> thcmonkey: There's also ipkungfu which is what I use and generally find the easiest.
[12:49] <lafiel> thcmonkey: cool.
[12:49] <Joeeigel> or it crashes saying i dont have enough space to partition...
[12:50] <foxy34ist> I want to try install ubuntu 6.10 to sata disk.can some one help me
[12:52] <gugu^> Please help to install HP LaserJet 1018!!!
[12:53] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: What happens when you try to connect?
[12:53] <[MINE] Devy> anyone that has some solutions on how to get 1600x1200 resolution to work?
[12:53] <Joeeigel> Hey i have a problem installing Ubuntu, can some1 help?
[12:53] <Joeeigel> Its when im partitioning
[12:53] <Joeeigel> It either sits there and does nothing, like it did all night
[12:53] <Joeeigel> or it crashes saying i dont have enough space to partition...
[12:54] <Joeeigel> But i have 21gb free...
[12:54] <predaeus> foxy34ist, what is the problem? I think it should work out of the box
[12:54] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: nothing. I get no errors but when I try to ping anything (the example uses bbc.co.uk) it just timesout
[12:55] <fotoflo_> I need to setup an MTA,  does anyone have experiance doing this?
[12:57] <[MINE] Devy> Hiya I got 2 new 20" lcds and cant get the resolution 1600x1200 working....is there anyone who might be able to help?
[12:57] <miza-x> isn't postfix good enough?
[12:57] <whosit> fotoflo_ , have you decied what MTA to use?
[12:57] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: What does your  ipconfig  say after you tried connecting?
[12:57] <gugu^> When i whant to compile the foo2zjs it gives me an error
[12:57] <DaveTarmac> ipconfig?
[12:57] <DaveTarmac> isn't it ifconfig?
[12:58] <whosit> ifconfig
[12:58] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: Sorry. typo. ifconfig
[12:58] <whosit> ipconfig is windowz
[12:58] <DaveTarmac> no worries - did that myself a while ago
[12:58] <Lynoure> whosit: p and f are both under forefingers :)
[12:58] <fotoflo_> whosit: no
[12:58] <candyban_> How can I disable logging to my terminal?
[12:58] <andytayloruk> is it unusual if the swap partition isnt being used at all?
[12:59] <DaveTarmac> ok, bear with me. think i've got to go through the steps again. two seconds
[12:59] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: I do not need to know all of it, just if there is an ip for your wireless card (and possibly what it is)
[12:59] <candyban_> ata3: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/20 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0x3/11/04
[12:59] <candyban_> anyone an idea what that means?
[12:59] <predaeus> andytayloruk, no. but it should be used if all your RAM is used up.
[01:00] <andytayloruk> predaeus: ah ok. Its just showing 0mb usage so I thought maybe something was up.
[01:00] <Gohan> ! list
[01:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:00] <Gohan> !list
[01:01] <predaeus> andytayloruk: it's basically a backup for when your RAM is full, but you need more memory.
[01:01] <andytayloruk> ok. thanks :)
[01:01] <predaeus> np
[01:01] <jirafunky> hi eneryone
[01:01] <jirafunky> sorry!!! everyone
[01:02] <pierre__> cvnbvc
[01:02] <pierre__> How do i upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?
[01:03] <comosicus> what it means +b cannot join channel?
[01:03] <jirafunky> i'm here because i'm a newbie in using ubuntu edgy on a compaq laptop
[01:03] <comosicus> ahh me too
[01:03] <jirafunky> and every thing works fine excep for the webcam
[01:03] <comosicus> 4 days of ubuntu
[01:03] <comosicus> u?
[01:03] <cjvail13> i need help with screen resolution
[01:04] <elkbuntu> pierre__, changing sources and dist-upgrading, however you should talk about feisty in #ubuntu+1
[01:04] <[MINE] Devy> Need help with getting 1600x1200 resolution workin :)
[01:04] <andytayloruk> if anyone could help me with my ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 I'd really appreciate it... basically ubuntu installed fine but its quite slow (icons lag when they load, lag when dragging windows, slow to open windows) and I guess it must be my graphics card. apparently direct rendering is working. performance was much better in other distros e.g. knoppix; no slowdown
[01:04] <Lynoure> comosicus: yes +b means that the person is banned from the channel. Usually a result of breaking the rules of the channel.
[01:04] <craigc> hi
[01:04] <jirafunky> the system hangs on when i turn it up
[01:04] <milkyspin> what are the rules of this channel?
[01:04] <comosicus> thanks
[01:04] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, have you checked that it is using the ATI or FGLRX drivers and not the Vesa drivers?
[01:05] <elkbuntu> !guidelines | milkyspin
[01:05] <ubotu> milkyspin: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:05] <andytayloruk> elkbuntu: how do I do that?
[01:05] <comosicus> how do i join again
[01:05] <comosicus> ?
[01:05] <milkyspin> thanks elkbuntu
[01:05] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, are you comfortable using the command line?
[01:05] <andytayloruk> relatively
[01:05] <Sircoelho> andytayloruk, try this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Performance_Issues
[01:05] <Lynoure> comosicus: you can join again when they have unbanned you.
[01:06] <andytayloruk> cheers Sircoelho
[01:06] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, then could you 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and tell me if it says ATI anywhere in it?
[01:06] <craigc> need a little help with my screen resolution can anone help? i have followed the nvidia tutorials and i am at a point where i have the drivers installed, nvidia had detected my projector fine but i cant see enough of the screen in the nvidia settings manager to be able to change the resolition.
[01:06] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: As far as I can see, the only ip on the ifconfig is 127.0.0.1 which is for my wifi0 - but that is localhost
[01:07] <andytayloruk> elkbuntu: Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 9000] "
[01:07] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: yes, so you did not get an ip. You use dhcp in the network?
[01:07] <cjvail13> craigc i am having the same problems
[01:07] <andytayloruk> its the wrong card. weird
[01:07] <DaveTarmac> yeah
[01:07] <craigc> so close yet so far :)
[01:07] <naranha> hi, i tried ubuntu edgy and feisty.. both of them crash at the gdm login screen completely (can't do anything but hard-reboot). when i boot in rescue mode and do xinit and gnome-session, it seems to work fine however. windows works fine too... any ideas what i might try to do?
[01:07] <jirafunky> hi, i'm here because i have installed ubuntu edgy on my laptop (compaq evo nc610) and every things seems to work fine excep for the webcam. My webcam has a z-star based chip and uses the spca5xx driver. The preblem is that the systems hangs on when i use any program that interacts qith the webcam. Hope help... thanks
[01:07] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: i tried to dhclient ath0 - but it just times outalso
[01:07] <kbd> I need some help fixing gnome for a user account on this Edgy (upgraded from Dapper). I tried installing an mouse theme but it all went horribly wrong and the theme was malformed and gnome quit working. I suppose I need to regenerate configuration files and folders for gnome, or perhaps there is a lock issue... I don't know really. But gnome-settings-daemon or gnome-session are unable to connect to dbus. :/
[01:07] <[MINE] Devy> seems screenresolution is something alot of people are havin trouble with
[01:08] <naranha> gdm crashes after a few seconds, i'm able to move the mouse a bit
[01:08] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, is that the only mention of ati?
[01:08] <andytayloruk> no
[01:08] <Joeeigel> Do i need to set up linux to work with my internet or should it just do it if im running it on a partitioned windows/lunux machine?
[01:08] <andytayloruk> its in there under Device and Screen
[01:08] <h1st0> Joeeigel: depends on your internet of course.
[01:08] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, what about next to driver anywhere?
[01:09] <h1st0> Joeeigel: do you automatically get an ip from your router?
[01:09] <Joeeigel> I have a router...
[01:09] <craigc> mine is fine except i am stuck in 800x600 which is kinda a shame considering im using an 8ft projector screen, lol
[01:09] <Joeeigel> Yes h1sy0 i do
[01:09] <Joeeigel> h1st0* Yea i do
[01:09] <h1st0> Joeeigel: well if your router is set for DHCP then you shouldnt' ahve to do anything.
[01:09] <Joeeigel> How can i check?
[01:09] <andytayloruk> elkbuntu: no, can't see anything
[01:09] <andytayloruk> just in those two places
[01:09] <cjvail13> i am using a widescreen and some of the desktop is cutoff
[01:09] <jirafunky> anyone can help me???
[01:09] <craigc> same here exactly
[01:09] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, then it seems to be using the Vesa driver? is it mentioned next to Driver?
[01:09] <h1st0> Joeeigel: well your network card will get an ip you can just run ifconfig to see if dhcp is working.
[01:09] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: and ifconfig showed eth0, too?   It could help if you pastebinned your   /etc/network/interfaces
[01:09] <h1st0> Joeeigel: or just boot to a live cd and internet would work.
[01:09] <Joeeigel> ok
[01:10] <craigc> cjvail13 same here exactly
[01:10] <h1st0> Joeeigel: unless you need to install drivers for your card it should be pretty seamless with dhcp
[01:10] <DaveTarmac> can't really. differnet physical machines
[01:10] <cjvail13> any answers
[01:10] <cjvail13> its not really messing anything up
[01:10] <Joeeigel> Ive ran IPconfic, nothing..
[01:10] <cjvail13> but its annoying
[01:10] <andytayloruk> elkbuntu: my bad, its using the ati driver
[01:11] <andytayloruk> Driver		"ati"
[01:11] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, try fglrx then
[01:11] <elkbuntu> !fglrx | andytayloruk
[01:11] <ubotu> andytayloruk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:11] <craigc> cjvail13 i adjusted to max offset on H sync but still  a lot was missing, i installed the nvidia drivers on the Feisty beryl how to and tha fixed the offset but now im in 800x600
[01:11] <andytayloruk> ok
[01:11] <cjvail13> what card are you using
[01:12] <pihus_> Is there any other way to solve the beryl+white cube problem, besides downgradeing?
[01:12] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: ok, i'm gonna write it out for you. gimme 2 ticks
[01:12] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, the fglrx driver is ATI non-libre driver
[01:12] <andytayloruk> which means?
[01:12] <whosit> Pihus_, I fixed by using the latest video driver and beryl
[01:12] <andytayloruk> The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 8500.
[01:13] <andytayloruk> mines a 7500
[01:13] <craigc> ubotu thanks i will try that guide
[01:13] <pihus_> whosit, ati card?
[01:13] <whosit> yeap
[01:13] <JamesGlover> Hi.
[01:13] <pihus_> whosit, the one I can download from ati's homepage?
[01:13] <whosit> I got the new Xgl, ATi driver and Beryl
[01:13] <whosit> yea
[01:13] <whosit> You have to compile it to get it installed.
[01:13] <pihus_> i know :)
[01:13] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: you could also try doing a blanket   dhclient  without specifying the interface
[01:13] <whosit> :)
[01:14] <pihus_> but I thoght that beryl won't work with those drivers
[01:14] <Mumbles> anyone know where i can edit the network config? mines stuck on noon dhcp
[01:14] <gugu^> elkbuntu, what is the site for printing
[01:14] <whosit> Did for my ATI M200
[01:14] <pihus_> I have radeon 9700
[01:14] <whosit> but if you just want to fix it quickly
[01:14] <erUSUL> Mumbles: System>Admin>net or /etc/network/interfaces
[01:14] <craigc> cjvail13 im using a Gforce 7300 LE
[01:14] <whosit> run beryl manager and select advance and then renderpath and then copy
[01:14] <matej> what i must install to play sound when i go over the icon of mp3 file?
[01:15] <elkbuntu> !printing | gugu^ ?
[01:15] <ubotu> gugu^ ?: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:15] <CpuID2> hey anyone here given beryl a try on ppc?
[01:15] <cjvail13> wow i am using a gforce 7300
[01:15] <elkbuntu> gugu^, is that what you meant?
[01:15] <cjvail13> so have you had any luck yet
[01:15] <CpuID2> just wondering if its as stable as x86/amd64 yet
[01:15] <naranha> hi, i tried ubuntu edgy and feisty.. both of them crash at the gdm login screen completely after just a few secs (can't do anything but hard-reboot). when i boot in rescue mode and do xinit and gnome-session, it seems to work fine however. windows works fine too... nothing seems to help, any ideas what i might try to do?
[01:15] <JamesGlover> Is anyone available to help?
[01:15] <h1st0> No there all gone
[01:15] <andytayloruk> elkbuntu: I don't think I should try it since it says it doesn't support my card
[01:15] <gugu^> elkbuntu, yes, thx
[01:15] <h1st0> all the pixies took us away
[01:15] <pihus_> whosit, selecting copy should resolve the white cube problem?
[01:16] <whosit> yes
[01:16] <pihus_> hmm
[01:16] <h1st0> !ask | JamesGlover
[01:16] <whosit> that helped me
[01:16] <ubotu> JamesGlover: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:16] <craigc> cjvail im running feisty as it was the only one thatd install on my AMD64
[01:16] <pihus_> gonna try it ot now :)
[01:16] <h1st0> craigc: fiesty support is in #ubuntu+1
[01:16] <JamesGlover> Um, I'm having trouble with drivers.
[01:16] <whosit> but I then upgraded to the new version of beryl and didnt need to do that.
[01:16] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, which ubuntu version are you using? (if you said i forgot)
[01:16] <h1st0> JamesGlover: which drivers?
[01:16] <andytayloruk> 6.10 edgy eft
[01:16] <craigc> cjvail i followed the feisty-beryl how to and that has been the most success
[01:16] <JamesGlover> I have a D-Link DWL-G122 USB Wireless Adapter, but it won't connect to my network.
[01:17] <h1st0> craigc: beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects
[01:17] <Mumbles> erUSUL, will try again
[01:17] <JamesGlover> In fact, it won't even turn on.
[01:17] <craigc> cjvail the nvidia settings manager now shows mu card, my projector and the possible modes to run in
[01:17] <h1st0> JamesGlover: did you try looking at the hardware list in the wiki?
[01:17] <craigc> cjvail however i cant scroll down in the manager enough to apply a resolution change!!
[01:17] <pihus_> whosit, it really did work :) But what's the difference between "copy" and the other option?
[01:17] <JamesGlover> I'm a silly bugger, so no. :#
[01:17] <pihus_> somehow I think that copy isn't that good :p
[01:17] <whosit> I dont know
[01:18] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, not sure what to suggest. try checking launchpad for bugs on the card to see if any match, and if not, report it
[01:18] <h1st0> JamesGlover: They list different devices and manufacturers there as well as what drivers are required to get it working. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:18] <andytayloruk> ok elkbuntu. thanks. I might try posting on the forums first. Thanks for your help:)
[01:18] <[MINE] Devy> After 6 hours with trying to get the resolution up to 1600x1200 we are about to give up. Im using the newest Gentoo and the drivers just wont let me get the resolution i want.
[01:18] <whosit> Xgl and beryl ROCKS1
[01:18] <h1st0> JamesGlover: Would be a start so you know for sure which driver to use.
[01:18] <elkbuntu> andytayloruk, good luck
[01:18] <h1st0> [MINE] Devy: this is not a gentoo suport
[01:18] <[MINE] Devy> not gentoo but ubuntu lol sorry
[01:18] <h1st0> lol
[01:18] <pihus_> hmm, somehow my theme is now messed up.
[01:18] <JamesGlover> Alright, I'll check there first. Thank you, h1st0.
[01:19] <[MINE] Devy> i just changed from gentoo to ubuntu today
[01:19] <h1st0> JamesGlover: np
[01:19] <CpuID2> [MINE] Devy, opinions so far?
[01:19] <pihus_> everything looks old and nothcing changes when I switch theme from "theme preferences"
[01:19] <pihus_> -c
[01:19] <CpuID2> how long you been using gentoo btw?
[01:19] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, assuming you have go tthe correct drivers, did you try to put a modeline into xorg.conf with the output of "gtf 1600 1200 60 -x" ?
[01:19] <elkbuntu> [MINE] Devy, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:19] <[MINE] Devy> CpuID2 since it came out
[01:20] <CpuID2> heh coo
[01:20] <[MINE] Devy> CpuID2 but since i couldt get the res up on gentoo i was tempted to try ubuntu and see if that worked
[01:20] <JamesGlover> It's not in the wiki.
[01:20] <CpuID2> interesting
[01:20] <CpuID2> card?
[01:20] <h1st0> JamesGlover: your card isn't listed?
[01:20] <JamesGlover> No, it's not.
[01:21] <h1st0> JamesGlover: what kind of card is it?
[01:21] <JamesGlover> D-Link DWL-G122
[01:21] <craigc> anyone know how i can edit the nvidia settings by editing files rather than through the GUI?
[01:21] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8357/
[01:21] <fotofl0> arg. i was just here asking about MTA's and I got an itnernational telephone call
[01:21] <h1st0> JamesGlover: herm.. a G122 is it different than a 122?  because I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-122
[01:21] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi ive tried to make a few modlines after browsing goole several times, none has worked. But -x
[01:21] <fotofl0> I need to setup an MTA...
[01:22] <fotofl0> dont know which one to use
[01:22] <CpuID2> [MINE] Devy, which card?
[01:22] <whosit> craigc, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but read up on it before messing around
[01:22] <diepruis> what's an MTA?
[01:22] <fotofl0> heard a lot of good things about postfix
[01:22] <fotofl0> MTA = mail transfer agent
[01:22] <whosit> Mail Trasport Agent
[01:22] <diepruis> ahhh
[01:22] <vlt|l> Hello. On a multi user machine running ubuntu Dapper one user gets "[Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!" when trying to run OpenOffice. What could be setup wrong here?
[01:22] <diepruis> ta
[01:22] <fotofl0> transport
[01:22] <[MINE] Devy> CpuID2 its a 6600 GT
[01:22] <craigc> whosit,  Thanks ill take a look :)
[01:22] <JamesGlover> h1st0: They're not the same.
[01:22] <JamesGlover> I think they're similar, though.
[01:22] <CpuID2> [MINE] Devy, nvidia driver version on gentoo? and on ubuntu?
[01:22] <whosit> transfer or tranport, Its been a while
[01:23] <h1st0> JamesGlover: yeah one is B one is G probably.  But I don't know for sure.  Maybe search the forums.  or try the linux-wlan-ng drivers
[01:23] <h1st0> !wifi | JamesGlover
[01:23] <Supre_Me> hello, I just installed the quake 4 demo and now I want to remove it. How do I remove it the proper way? sudo apt-get remove quake4-demo doesn't work
[01:23] <vlt|l> Hello. On a multi user machine running ubuntu Dapper one user gets "[Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!" when trying to run OpenOffice. What could be setup wrong here?
[01:23] <ubotu> JamesGlover: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:23] <h1st0> Supre_Me: As long as quake4-demo is the name of the package that will remove it.
[01:23] <[MINE] Devy> CpuID2 cant remember on gentoo but on ubuntu its 8776
[01:23] <h1st0> Supre_Me: or you can try aptitude
[01:23] <whosit> wha, quake4 demo in apt, I didnt know :)
[01:23] <JamesGlover> I will admit - I have no clue as to what I'm doing.
[01:23] <fotofl0> has anyone setup an MTA before?
[01:23] <h1st0> Supre_Me: How did you instlal it actually.
[01:24] <h1st0> whosit: I doubt it.
[01:24] <h1st0> !quake4-demo
[01:24] <vlt|l> fotofl0: postfix works fine
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quake4-demo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <h1st0> nope
[01:24] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: You seem to be using a static address anyway. You sure ifconfig did not show that one you set for ath0? (I might be somehow confused here)
[01:24] <CpuID2> [MINE] Devy, tried the 9 series?
[01:24] <h1st0> Supre_Me: How was the demo installed?
[01:24] <fotofl0> vlt|l: i only need mail forwarding...
[01:24] <DaveTarmac> i'll check again... bear with me
[01:24] <gugu^> Please help to install HP LaserJet 1018!!!
[01:24] <Supre_Me> h1st0, I installed it via a .run file (sh)
[01:24] <[MINE] Devy> CpuID2 not on ubuntu
[01:24] <CpuID2> [MINE] Devy, im using 9746 on this gentoo desktop here with a 6200
[01:24] <whosit> I dont have the machine to run it any way.
[01:24] <CpuID2> not sure whats in ubuntu :)
[01:25] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, in a terminal "gtf 1600 1400 60 -x" and copy everything appart from "-HSynx +Vsync" into the Section Monitor. RENAME the modeline to "1600x1400". Above the modeline add the following line: Option "DDC" "false". save the xorg.conf file and restart xorg.
[01:25] <h1st0> JamesGlover: Try posting on ubuntuforums.org put your specific model and version of ubuntu.  I'm sure someon there will explain the exact driver you need.
[01:25] <Supre_Me> h1st0, and no, sudo apt-get remove with the package name does not work
[01:25] <matej> what i must install to play sound when i go over the icon of mp3 file?
[01:25] <pihus> When I login to Gnome session, then everything is ok and I can change themes. But when I login to XGL session, then everything looks old and when choosing another theme, then only window decorations change, but not the buttons etc.
[01:25] <gugu^> Please help to install HP LaserJet 1018!!! When i whant to compile it gives me an error
[01:25] <pihus> what could be the problem?
[01:25] <h1st0> Supre_Me: yeah because it wasn't installed with apt-get.
[01:25] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: try   ping 192.168.1.1  while you are at it.
[01:25] <JamesGlover> Alright, h1st0. Thank you.
[01:25] <Supre_Me> h1st0, aha, ok. So how do I remove it then?
[01:25] <h1st0> Supre_Me: first you need to look in the directory you installed from and see if there is an uninstall script.
[01:25] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, oh and of course make sure that "1600x1400" is the default resolution for the depth you want in the Section Screen
[01:25] <h1st0> Supre_Me: What do you type to run the demo?
[01:26] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi do u mean 1600x1200 ? cuz thats what i want to use as resolution
[01:26] <h1st0> Supre_Me: you can try which quake4-demo     it will show the path where it is.  If its just in /opt  you should be able to just rm -rf the directory.
[01:26] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: no ip address for ath0 and the ping returned 'connect: network is unreachable'
[01:26] <Supre_Me> h1st0, already checked that and there's nothing named uninstall or something like that and it's not mentioned in the readme
[01:26] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, yes. sorry
[01:26] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi hehe ok
[01:26] <h1st0> Supre_Me: well how do you launch the quake4 demo?
[01:26] <whosit> Pihus have you tried emerald themes?
[01:27] <Supre_Me> h1st0, to run the game I just press the icon on my desktop
[01:27] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, "gtf 1600 1200 60 -x"
[01:27] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi it says out of range sigh
[01:27] <h1st0> Supre_Me: alright open a terminal and type in which quake4
[01:27] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, that means either your monitor or driver does not support it.
[01:28] <[MINE] Devy> well its 20 inch LCDs and i got em on 1600-1200 on the windows machine
[01:28] <h1st0> Supre_Me: any results?
[01:28] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, what graphic card and which driver do you use?
[01:28] <h1st0> Supre_Me: also most of the installers may have a switch like ./quake4-demo.sh -uninstall
[01:28] <Supre_Me> h1st0, it finds the following things: quake4-demo quake4-demoded quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[01:28] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi 6600 GT and using 8776
[01:29] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: That is peculiar.  does dmegs show anything about ath0 if you do  ifconfig ath0 down   and   ifconfig ath0 up?
[01:29] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: s/dmegs/dmesg
[01:29] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, ok. hang on
[01:30] <h1st0> Supre_Me: well type in "which quake4-demo"   and it should give you the path to the demo
[01:30] <naranha> hi, i tried ubuntu edgy and feisty.. both of them crash at the gdm login screen completely after just a few secs (can't do anything but hard-reboot). when i boot in rescue mode and do xinit and gnome-session, it seems to work fine however. windows works fine too... nothing seems to help, any ideas what i might try to do?
[01:30] <h1st0> Supre_Me: wihtout the qoutes of corse.
[01:30] <Supre_Me> h1st0, no, it doesn't give any output
[01:30] <h1st0> naranha: run it in safe graphics mode.
[01:31] <Spinnaker> How I can find out other users IP in IRC? plz, help me.
[01:31] <h1st0> Supre_Me: okay right click on the quake4 launcher on your desktop and go to properties
[01:31] <naranha> h1st0: what's that?
[01:31] <Supre_Me> h1st0, but I know that I have the base install in my gaming folder in my home folder and + there's a hidden folder in my home folder named .quake or something
[01:31] <Errpast1> Trying to dual boot Vista and Ubuntu for a friend
[01:31] <h1st0> Supre_Me: well then just delete those folders
[01:32] <h1st0> Supre_Me: and the icon quake is pretty much self containted.  The only othe rplay it may be is /usr/local/games  But I doubt that.
[01:32] <phazeman> anyone evwer experienced problems with Intel 8294EG chipset integrated graphic card ? i can't make X to start in any way with it
[01:32] <h1st0> naranha: its an option on the live cd.
[01:32] <h1st0> naranha: What type of video card do you have?
[01:32] <Supre_Me> h1st0, alright. I was just thinking if that would leave other files and stuff, like it does when you don't use add and remove programs in windows
[01:32] <naranha> nvidia geforce 7600
[01:32] <phazeman> it's's Intel 82945G chipset
[01:33] <thcmonkey> is there an ubuntu network help channel on freenode?
[01:33] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: The only ath0 line in dmesg was 'ath0: No IPv6 routers available'
[01:33] <Errpast1> After partitioning with Vista (gparted wouldn't work for Vista NFS), and isntalling Ubuntu, reboot Grub didn't show Vista
[01:33] <h1st0> Supre_Me: well not with quake typically.  Thats why I was saying to just double check right click on the launcher and go to properties it will show the path to the executable.
[01:33] <naranha> seems to work now, i added acpi=off to bootops
[01:33] <h1st0> Supre_Me: as long as its in your home its self contained.
[01:33] <naranha> no it just crashed
[01:33] <h1st0> Supre_Me: the .quake  will be hidden folders and settings in your home as well.
[01:33] <h1st0> naranha: well boot to recover mode.
[01:33] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i nv" show nv or nvidia?
[01:33] <Ferret> Errpast1: The newest gparted livecds *should* work with vista's fs
[01:33] <pjota> hi there!
[01:33] <Supre_Me> h1st0, ah yes, I'll check me usr/share folder just in case. Thanks!
[01:33] <naranha> on it
[01:34] <phazeman> anyone ?
[01:34] <h1st0> naranha: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the device section to vesa  instead of nv
[01:34] <pjota> Anybody knows how to install section 2 of the man? I tried apt-get install manpages but didn't work.
[01:34] <naranha> as i said it works fine in recovery mode without gdm
[01:34] <[MINE] Devy> nvidia
[01:34] <[MINE] Devy> Jowinvidia
[01:34] <[MINE] Devy> grrr typos
[01:34] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: That's pretty normal and normally does not indicate a problem.
[01:34] <Errpast1> Ferret - thanks, come to think of it, mine is a couple months old
[01:34] <h1st0> Supre_Me: yeah /usr/games
[01:34] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi nvidia
[01:34] <smileymoo> hi
[01:34] <h1st0> Supre_Me: just in case but I doubt quake would do that.
[01:35] <h1st0> naranha: yes you need different video drivers.
[01:35] <Spee_Der> !nvidia | [MINE] Devy
[01:35] <ubotu> [MINE] Devy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:35] <mptech> Does anyone know where I can get beta versions of the installer?
[01:35] <naranha> i tried the official nvidia and vesa drivers
[01:35] <smileymoo> hi guys, just booted up my mates dead PC< how owuld i mount the C: drive so we can recover his files?
[01:35] <naranha> same problem
[01:35] <h1st0> naranha: if you get in recovery mode you could sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[01:35] <h1st0> naranha: even with vesa specified?
[01:35] <naranha> i already did that
[01:35] <naranha> yes
[01:36] <naranha> nvidia drivers work fine in rescue mode
[01:36] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: Any more ideas? or shall i remove the drivers and start again?
[01:36] <erUSUL> smileymoo: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/
[01:36] <h1st0> naranha: Well what version of ubuntu and what type of hardware.
[01:36] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, did you install nvidia-glx?
[01:36] <smileymoo> erUSUL: mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /mnt/ busy
[01:37] <h1st0> naranha: has this system ever worked properly?
[01:37] <delight> does that amd64bit version run on a new intel-cpu with 64bit extension ? like the core2duo ?
[01:37] <naranha> tried both feisty and edgy, same problem. now i'm on feisty. i got an amd64 system, but im using the 386 ubuntu
[01:37] <naranha> in windows it works just fine
[01:37] <smileymoo> and hda doesn't exist :O
[01:37] <h1st0> naranha: join #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <erUSUL> smileymoo: post the output of cat /proc/mounts in a pastebin...
[01:37] <h1st0> naranha: that is fiesty suport.
[01:37] <erUSUL> !pastebin | smileymoo
[01:37] <ubotu> smileymoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: I'm not sure, it kind of seems like the drivers work, but not having an ip for staticly set interface is a bit bizarre
[01:37] <smileymoo> erUSUL: could you point me..... hahha thanks :D
[01:38] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi yes its installed. It works fine with 1280x1024 it just wont work with 1600x1200
[01:38] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: I know. ITs quite odd.
[01:38] <naranha> mmm ok
[01:38] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi I just installed the newest driver and are trying it now
[01:38] <spamhog> Running 6.06.01 LTS - I suppose support is long term als long as I do not dist-upgrade to the next release, right?
[01:38] <h1st0> spamhog: yes
[01:38] <smileymoo> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8358/
[01:39] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: I'm actually going to have to vanish for a bit but I'll stay on here if you have any ideas.
[01:39] <h1st0> spamhog: once you upgrade to the next release support would be for that releases lenght.
[01:39] <h1st0> spamhog: however, this is free support so it really doens't matter.
[01:39] <[MINE] Devy> everything froze grrrr
[01:39] <DaveTarmac> Lynoure: THanks for your help with this anyway. I'll be back later on.
[01:39] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: someone more familiar with madwifi might be able to help you better than me. Good luck.
[01:40] <spamhog> h1st0: great!  If I want to stay with a LTS, do you know if / how I can disable dist-upgrade?  I see it as a big temptation for (L)users... :-)
[01:40] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, can you post your xorg.conf into the pastebin please?
[01:40] <h1st0> spamhog: Users can't dist-upgrade
[01:40] <mptech> is it possible to use newer versions of the feisty installer to install edgy?
[01:40] <aldin> anyone knows some good network treacking program i found vnstat
[01:40] <h1st0> spamhog: only the sudoers can.
[01:40] <erUSUL> smileymoo: 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/' my fault i forget the 1
[01:41] <Lynoure> DaveTarmac: one weird question: can it be that someone else has the ip you configured to be the static one?
[01:41] <spamhog> OK, so that's the only barrier...  thank you!
[01:41] <h1st0> mptech: might want to ask in #ubuntu+1 but anythign is possible.
[01:41] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi Im on irc from the windows machine beside me, the newest driver froze everything
[01:41] <smileymoo> lol erUSUL im a gentoo user and i didn't notice that either :D
[01:41] <h1st0> spamhog: well not really a barrier just don't give people that access.
[01:41] <smileymoo> erUSUL: ok its...... doing something :D
[01:42] <mptech> h1st0, do you know of an edgy installer version that has kernel newer than 2.6.18.  My motherboard doesn't work well with versions earlier than that
[01:42] <MrMist> Hi all
[01:42] <MrMist> I want to create a .ogg-file from a track on a audio-disc...
[01:42] <erUSUL> smileymoo: ow the c: partition is under /mnt/ you have to use sudo to access file there
[01:42] <h1st0> mptech: not that I know of you would have to make your own.
[01:42] <MrMist> How do I do it ?
[01:42] <smileymoo> erUSUL: any idea how long this will take from Live cd, wtih 512 ram?
[01:43] <aldin> anyone knows some good GUI network treacking program i found vnstat
[01:43] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi Im gonna reinstall everything and come back later....Im about to throw the pc out of the window
[01:43] <erUSUL> MrMist: use a cdrip program like grip or sound juicer
[01:43] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, the resolution seem to be supported so what I am thinking/guessing is that the monitor values are a bit off. Try to set VertRefresh to 60.
[01:43] <h1st0> mptech: I'm wondering if you could just use the fiesty cd and change the repos kinda but Ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <MrMist> erUSUL: The conversion isn't the real issue though. I'd like to extract the raw sound-file
[01:43] <erUSUL> smileymoo: how log it will take to do what?
[01:43] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, ok, good luck :)
[01:43] <mptech> h1st0, even when trying to install feisty though, the install hangs with the feisty installer
[01:43] <erUSUL> smileymoo: the mount should have been almos instantaneus
[01:44] <rambo3> fiesty + debootstrap
[01:44] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi yes it seems EDID gets the wrong information about how big resolution it can take
[01:44] <SmileyLap> hum
[01:44] <erUSUL> MrMist: grip can do it or cdparanoia (cli)
[01:44] <h1st0> mptech: please join #ubuntu+1 for fiesty help.  If you want edgy help I can try to help you or other can in here.
[01:44] <SmileyLap> smileymoo:
[01:44] <tulga> my NTFS partition not working. then I use 6.10, then mounted ntfs. then I can see datas in /dev/hda1 partition. howto restore ntfs partition from 6.10?
[01:44] <mptech> h1st0, I do need edgy help
[01:45] <h1st0> mptech: okay well what is going on?
[01:45] <mptech> h1st0, I need an installer with a newer kernel
[01:45] <rambo3> mptech, use alternative cd
[01:45] <mptech> rambo3, I am
[01:45] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi so its something crashing in there, but i have no idea what. And it was the same problem on gentoo. But works on winblows
[01:45] <h1st0> rambo3: alternate cd doesn't have a newer kernel.
[01:46] <rambo3> h1st0, fiesty one doesnt have newer kernel?
[01:46] <rambo3> thats wierd
[01:46] <mptech> rambo3, the fiesty installer hangs for me, so that's not an option
[01:46] <gugu^> PLEASE HELP, i whant to install HP LaserJet 1018, i have folowed instruction form http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ but when i whant to compile it gives me an error!
[01:46] <h1st0> rambo3: yeah it does.  But thats not alternate iso
[01:47] <erUSUL> gugu^: Does system>admin>printers fail for you? why?
[01:47] <rambo3> mptech, where does it hang , do you have loggs
[01:47] <mptech> rambo3, after it downloads additional installer components (I used the minimal install), it hangs when trying to detect hardware
[01:47] <predaeus> tulga: you mean the ntfs partition is not being mounted automatically, but it works when you mount it yourself?
[01:48] <smileymoo> erUSUL: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[01:48] <smileymoo>        missing codepage or other error
[01:48] <smileymoo> :O
[01:48] <smileymoo> could it be fat32? is that the right type?
[01:48] <gugu^> erUSUL, on this site says DON'T USE the foo2zjs package from Ubuntu, i must dowloaded from there
[01:48] <tulga> predaeus: no it is mounted. but I cannot start windows. because cannot detect my disk
[01:49] <Lynoure> mptech: If the feisty (non-released) installer does not work for you, why not install with an older kernel and then, if you really need a newer one, get it from somewhere or if you need to, compile your own?
[01:49] <erUSUL> smileymoo: could it be yes i was assuming it was a winXP+ntfs install if it is fat32 use vfat as filetype
[01:49] <tulga> other system cannot detect partition is ntfs. only ubuntu can detect it is ntfs. where is problem?
[01:50] <MrMist> erUSUL: is cdparanoia the way to go?
[01:50] <mptech> Lynoure, I would rather not make my own installer.  The problem is that my motherboard doesn't play well with older kernel versions
[01:50] <mptech> I have an asus p5b deluxe
[01:50] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, the "nvidia" driver is the correct one for your card. you should have the kernel restricted drivers for it installed as well. "out of range" in the monitor suggest that some values in xorg.conf are wrong or incorrectly autodetected. that's all I can say atm without looking at your xorg.conf file. VertRefresh 60 is to be considered a safe value for all LCD screens (they all support that frequency). so forcing it to 60 might w
[01:50] <Jowi> ork. that's all I can say at this time.
[01:51] <erUSUL> MrMist: grip uses it under the hoods and other ripping programs do it too...
[01:51] <Lynoure> mptech: I said use some existing installer that does not hang for you. Not that you should make your own installer. Or are you saying all installers hang on your system?
[01:51] <windwalker> Hi all, can somebody tell me to compile cups 1.2.8 properly for ubuntu. I mean the ./configure options. I am having really bad times with my Konika Minolta 1400W
[01:51] <predaeus> tulga: what happens when you boot? do you get the menu with the option to boot ubuntu or windows?
[01:51] <gugu^> erUSUL, can you help me?
[01:51] <tulga> no. I cannot get boot
[01:51] <MrMist> erUSUL: cool. I kinda' like to have the control myself :) Love the small apps that only does what I'm asking fore, and not everything else :)
[01:52] <predaeus> it just boots into ubuntu all the time?
[01:52] <h1st0> tulga: what is your native language?
[01:52] <tulga> english
[01:52] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi yes ive tried to force it to 60 but it just wont work but im transfering the config file to this puter now. can u explain the pastebin I got no clue what that are
[01:52] <mptech> Lynoure, while edgy installers work fine, they can't detect my hardware correctly
[01:52] <francois> !pastebin
[01:52] <mptech> due to the fact that they have old kernels
[01:52] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, plenty of xorg.conf examples using 1600x1200 with your card when I did a simple google search so the resolution/driver combination is fine
[01:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <erUSUL> gugu^: i can try... what is the error you are getting
[01:52] <Jowi> !pastebin | [MINE] Devy
[01:52] <ubotu> [MINE] Devy: please see above
[01:52] <erUSUL> gugu^: post it to a pastebin
[01:53] <[MINE] Devy> Jowi yeah and ive tried all the google results without any luck
[01:53] <[Remy] > @stats zezima
[01:53] <Ubugtu> (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database.
[01:53] <gugu^> erUSUL,  ok
[01:53] <[MINE] Devy> ahh tank you
[01:53] <erUSUL> !pastebin | gugu^
[01:53] <ubotu> gugu^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:53] <h1st0> omfg Stop with the pastebin spam please
[01:53] <Jowi> [MINE] Devy, need to take a break. son just woke up.
[01:53] <h1st0> How many times do you need the link
[01:53] <thcmonkey> ics SUCKS!
[01:53] <Lynoure> mptech: Do you have your hw list somewhere in pastebin?
[01:54] <rambo3> 4
[01:54] <[MINE] Devy> jowi rgr that i gotta go to work soon but im linking the txt bin, just gotta drive and will be back in a couple of ours
[01:54] <mptech> Lynoure, no, but I'll make it quickly
[01:54] <erUSUL> !language > thcmonkey
[01:54] <mptech> Lynoure, if it helps at all, I can install debian sid fine
[01:54] <predaeus> tulga: do "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst" and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, then post the link to your post here plz.
[01:55] <smileymoo> erUSUL: well its a XP install
[01:55] <smileymoo> but not sure what the harddrive was set to
[01:55] <gugu^> erUSUL,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8361/    i have pasted here all waht i`m doing
[01:55] <cisforcojo> hey guys, could someone please help me disable tapping on my ALPS touchpad?
[01:55] <Jarhead756> does anyone here use lynx?
[01:56] <cisforcojo> i have hotplugging scripts but i'm not quite sure how to use them
[01:56] <mptech> Lynoure, http://pastecode.com/15752
[01:56] <Lynoure> mptech: Actually, if you do not need to use ubuntu, why not just use sid? (Sorry, I'm a cross-distro person, and like Debian a lot)
[01:56] <erUSUL> gugu^: have you instaled build-essential ?? 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[01:56] <h1st0> cisforcojo: http://scottcollins.net/blog/2006/01/disable-touchpad-tap-in-kubuntubreezy.html
[01:56] <mptech> Lynoure, I love debian.  But I want to give ubuntu a shot
[01:56] <Jarhead756> why is lynx so slow?
[01:57] <h1st0> cisforcojo: google is your friend
[01:57] <mptech> Lynoure, and even though I can find my way around the CLI and get things to work in Debian, a bit of JustWorksTM action is always welcome
[01:57] <mptech> ;-)
[01:57] <cisforcojo> h1st0: i know, been looking at a lot of howtos but none have worked so far
[01:57] <gugu^> erUSUL, no, i install now
[01:57] <cisforcojo> mostly using qsynaptics
[01:58] <h1st0> cisforcojo: yeah that page I sent you explains that other things didn't work for him and he posted what did.
[01:58] <cisforcojo> alright thanks
[01:58] <h1st0> first google result to.
[01:58] <Lazergunz_> 'Afternoon
[01:58] <cisforcojo> off the top of your head is there a dev for the touchpad? i'm using /dev/psaux in xorg.conf but that's not working right
[01:59] <h1st0> cisforcojo: dev wacom or something like that.
[01:59] <Lcarsdata2> I am looking for a ubuntu precompiled version of samba. I was referred here from #samba
[01:59] <h1st0> cisforcojo: if you look in xorg it should be loaded there.  stylus etc... aare all in there.
[01:59] <cisforcojo> the difficult part is my xorg.conf NEVER had a touchpad section. I had to add it. It only had the wacom drivers (but my touchpad still worked)
[01:59] <rambo3> mptech, i just checked and it looks like bug for you motherboard is still open in edgy
[01:59] <Lcarsdata2> I can't use the synaptic thing because I have no net connection
[01:59] <Lynoure> mptech: I understand. I hope things work out for you eventually. You tried at #ubuntu+1 about feisty hanging already? And/or reported a bug on that?
[01:59] <h1st0> Lcarsdata2: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <Lcarsdata2> ok, thanks
[01:59] <Jarhead756> why doesn't lynx work right? it is really slow and even google won't work.
[02:00] <thcmonkey> anyone able to help me with ubuntu to xp ics?
[02:00] <gugu^> erUSUL, now compiling is working
[02:00] <erUSUL> gugu^: good
[02:00] <gugu^> erUSUL, thx, very much :)
[02:00] <erUSUL> gugu^: no problem
[02:01] <Lcarsdata2> what version of ubuntu is 6.06
[02:02] <Lcarsdata2> my about ubuntu button is broken
[02:02] <Jarhead756> Lcarsdata2: dapper drake
[02:02] <Lcarsdata2> ok
[02:02] <thcmonkey> dapper?
[02:02] <Lcarsdata2> thanks
[02:02] <Lcarsdata2> I don't think its drapper
[02:02] <thcmonkey> it is dapper
[02:02] <Jarhead756> Lcarsdata2: its what i use, untill feisty comes out, i may use it. but i'm sure 6.06 is dapper.
[02:02] <cisforcojo> h1st0: no dice
[02:02] <cisforcojo> here is a problem
[02:03] <Lcarsdata2> ok
[02:03] <thcmonkey> jarhead - you're right
[02:03] <cisforcojo> Xorg.0.log:  Alps Touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event2
[02:03] <cisforcojo> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event2"
[02:03] <Lcarsdata2> thanks all
[02:04] <cisforcojo> but: cat /proc/bus/input/devices shows the touchpad as on event 4
[02:04] <Jarhead756> sudo apt-get update
[02:04] <Jarhead756> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:04] <Jarhead756> oh, sorry, wrong box ;)
[02:05] <craigbass1976> I've set up iscan (to use our new fancy schmancy Epson printer/scanner) but I can only scan as root (or by sudoing)  I've gone into /etc/hotplug/usb/iscan-device and gave ownership tp lp user and lp group, which my wife and I are both members of.  Still no love.  Any ideas?
[02:05] <agliv> Greetings all :) does anyone know of a good guide to mounting local HD from a LiveCD? or perhaps know the mount options off hand?
[02:05] <craigbass1976> Well, my wife still loves me, but the scanner doesn't.
[02:06] <Jarhead756> which one is the gest, gtk gnuttella, or frostwire?
[02:06] <craigbass1976> agliv, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt  will put and ntfs partition into /mnt for you
[02:07] <Jarhead756> agliv: what version are you using?
[02:07] <cisforcojo> Jarhead: i prefer frostwire
[02:07] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: why is that?
[02:07] <Lcarsdata2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/samba - what do I download?
[02:07] <rambo3> craigbass1976, obvious trace thing would be to start scaning program from command line and see whats the problem
[02:08] <cisforcojo> well to be honest, never used gnutella but frostwire is a lot less resource heavy than limewire so i prefer it
[02:08] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: gotcha
[02:08] <cisforcojo> if you choose it though, you have to modify a config file
[02:08] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: frostwire that is? why is that?
[02:09] <cisforcojo> the developers consider it a 'minor' bug but it doesn't let you use it after installing!
[02:09] <cisforcojo> yeah
[02:09] <cisforcojo> they're going to fix it in the next version
[02:09] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: thats major, if you ask me.
[02:09] <cisforcojo> yeah most people agree
[02:09] <cisforcojo> what will happen is it won't ever connect to the network
[02:09] <gugu^> erUSUL, can you see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8366/
[02:09] <cisforcojo> that's the bug
[02:09] <Lcarsdata2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/samba - what do I download?
[02:09] <cisforcojo> if you choose frostwire, i can give you my config file so you can use it
[02:09] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: i remember trying it when i first started linux, and i never could connect.
[02:10] <cisforcojo> all it is is a list of servers
[02:10] <cisforcojo> yep thats why
[02:10] <SmileyLap> Hum
[02:10] <SmileyLap> Anyone here help me setting up my wireless card?
[02:11] <gugu^> erUSUL, what i must do?
[02:11] <rambo3> !anyone > SmileyLap
[02:11] <Lcarsdata2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/samba - what do I download?
[02:11] <gekk1> does anybody know the console command to lock the screen?
[02:11] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: so how can you give me your config file? can't you send files over irc?
[02:11] <provolone6787> some1 can help me with deb package?
[02:11] <Jarhead756> provolone6787: whats wrong with it?
[02:12] <cisforcojo> yeah
[02:12] <cisforcojo> i'll find it and give it to you now
[02:12] <provolone6787> i made a deb package from source
[02:12] <SmileyLap> rambo3: ..... well will you :D, many times i've asked for help and been told stupid advice :P - Its a Belkin F5D7010, with a Broadcom chipset :)
[02:12] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: so what do we have to do? i am using irssi from within terminal.
[02:12] <provolone6787> but when i install it
[02:12] <Jarhead756> provolone6787: i don't know much about source, maybe a dependecy wasn't met
[02:12] <provolone6787> the system put the file into /
[02:13] <provolone6787> no i set all dependecncy
[02:13] <amena> Hi, I am using ubuntu, though this might not be a ubuntu specific problem. I would like to activate the remote desctop feature on my box. is there a way to activate it though the shell/ssh?
[02:13] <linxeh> SmileyLap: how far have you got? do you have the drivers loaded successfully etc ?
[02:13] <provolone6787> dunno what to do
[02:13] <Sircoelho> Is there anyway to install ati proprietary drivers on Feisty Herd 5?
[02:13] <Lcarsdata2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/samba - what do I download?
[02:13] <linxeh> amena: what kind of remote desktop?
[02:13] <SmileyLap> no linxeh, dont know which drivers i need/ nor where to find them nor how to load them :)
[02:13] <agliv> Jarhead756: of Ubuntu? 6.06
[02:14] <linxeh> SmileyLap: what kind of card is it ?
[02:14] <rambo3> SmileyLap, search ubuntuforums first
[02:14] <Jarhead756> provolone6787: what are you trying to do, install it? try this, find the file in / and then copy it to your desktop/
[02:14] <Sircoelho> kernel .20 is facing problems
[02:14] <SmileyLap> Bekin 54g pcmcia card - F5D7010.
[02:14] <Jarhead756> agliv: yes, what was your problem?
[02:14] <provolone6787> i made deb package
[02:14] <provolone6787> but when i install it with
[02:14] <amena> linxeh: I do not know what it is called as I am using swedish version here. but its the one you activate under system>settings
[02:14] <SmileyLap> linxeh: Bekin 54g pcmcia card - F5D7010.
[02:14] <provolone6787> all files is put into / dir
[02:14] <provolone6787> instead of their dirs
[02:15] <rambo3> SmileyLap, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187004&
[02:15] <amena> linxeh: its the one you can loggon and see your screen as it is (I think it is vnc behind it)
[02:15] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: you still on here?
[02:15] <SmileyLap> ty rambo3, ill take a look but i dont hold out much hope :/
[02:15] <amena> I want to check my mail! :/
[02:15] <cisforcojo> haha yeah, still here
[02:15] <cisforcojo> looking for the file!
[02:15] <cisforcojo> did it a while ago
[02:15] <jake> anybody know how to change font size for splash screen?
[02:15] <linxeh> amena: probably VNC then I guess, though X and NX can do that too. try sudo apt-get install realvncserver or something
[02:15] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: ok.
[02:15] <Lcarsdata2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/samba - what do I download?
[02:15] <erUSUL> gugu^: well if it's only a warning is not that bad does the app work?
[02:16] <linxeh> amena: sudo apt-get install vncserver
[02:16] <Mumbles> can someone point me in the right firle to edit to make a comtpeur get its ip by dhcp ?
[02:16] <linxeh> Lcarsdata2: to do what ?
[02:16] <Lcarsdata2> to install samba
[02:16] <Sircoelho> Is there anyway to install ati proprietary drivers on Feisty Herd 5?
[02:16] <linxeh> SmileyLap: what revision of the card is it ?
[02:16] <Lcarsdata2> I was told to go to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <linxeh> Lcarsdata2: is the machine network connected
[02:17] <Lcarsdata2> yeah, but I want to network to my windows laptop that I am using now
[02:17] <Lcarsdata2> because I have no net on my ubuntu pc
[02:17] <john> is there a gui disk utility for view current disks and formating etc
[02:17] <gugu^> erUSUL,  what i must to do after this, i didn`t understant
[02:17] <linxeh> Lcarsdata2: what are you trying to do ? get your ubuntu pc onto the internet ?
[02:17] <Lcarsdata2> yeah
[02:17] <Lcarsdata2> but I use wifi
[02:18] <cisforcojo> Jarhead you there?
[02:18] <Jarhead756> so frostwire supports bittorrent? is it any good?
[02:18] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: yes
[02:18] <Lcarsdata2> and only have one reciver usb stick
[02:18] <cisforcojo> so you can't receive files on your terminal client?
[02:18] <linxeh> Lcarsdata2: you dont need samba for that - samba is for sharing files between windows and linux
[02:18] <john> any takers
[02:18] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: i have no clue, give it a try
[02:18] <cisforcojo> been forever since I did that. used to use BitchX back in the day
[02:18] <john> gui disk utility
[02:18] <cisforcojo> alright
[02:18] <john> ?
[02:18] <Lcarsdata2> oh, my bad
[02:18] <Lcarsdata2> what shall I do then?
[02:18] <rambo3> !gparted > john
[02:18] <agliv> Jarhead756: trying to mount my local HD from a liveCD... how do I list my local HD partitions... I'm not sure about the name... thought it was sda8 but mount is complaining...
[02:18] <amena> linxeh: no sorry. I mean I just want to activate that feature somehow. through the command line
[02:18] <linxeh> Lcarsdata2: you need to enable internet connection sharing on the Windows PC, and then configure ubuntu to use your windows machine as its gateway
[02:18] <cisforcojo> sending
[02:19] <SmileyLap> linxeh: v3.
[02:19] <linxeh> amena: well you can start it with /etc/init.d/vncserver if you already have it installed
[02:19] <Jarhead756> agliv: go to your system, administration, disk mangaer, got that far yet?
[02:19] <cisforcojo> just replace this file with the original gnutella.net in ~/.frostwire
[02:19] <linxeh> john: what about disk manager ?
[02:19] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: what will happen? will something pop up for me?
[02:19] <john> is that installed by default
[02:19] <john> disk manager?
[02:19] <Lcarsdata> linxeh: sorry, bad wifi
[02:20] <amena> linxeh: no such thing. it is a resident gnome app. but I will search more before asking here again (so I can explain exactly what I mean)
[02:20] <Lcarsdata> what should I do then
[02:20] <agliv> Jarhead756: device manager or disks?
[02:20] <amena> linxeh: thanks for trying to help :)
[02:20] <Jarhead756> agliv: disks to mount it.
[02:21] <linxeh> amena: it might be vino then
[02:21] <Jarhead756> agliv: for example, create you a folder on your desktop call mount, then within disks manager find your drive that you want to mount. then within the options select mount point, mount it to /home/yourname/Desktop/mount
[02:21] <cisforcojo> Jarhead: i guess nothing will happen
[02:21] <cisforcojo> it's been sitting idly for me in xchat for about 2 mins
[02:22] <Jarhead756> agliv: then mount it, easy.
[02:22] <cisforcojo> alright... tell you what. msg me your email and i'll send it
[02:22] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: readthis1now@gmail.com
[02:22] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: spam mail :)
[02:22] <cisforcojo> alright
[02:23] <genesi> org
[02:23] <john> thanks the gparted is what i was lookin for
[02:23] <linxeh> amena: it is vino actually, and it uses vncviewer to view
[02:23] <riven> has anyone else had a problem installing ubuntu?
[02:23] <amena> linxeh: thanks! I will look it up
[02:23] <agliv> Jarhead756: attempting now...
[02:23] <cisforcojo> jarhead: sent
[02:24] <linxeh> amena: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266981
[02:24] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: waiting...
[02:24] <Lcarsdata_> how can I connect both of my PC's together so they both have net access when I only have one wi-fi usb stick. I have a network cable running between them.
[02:24] <Lcarsdata_> one is windows the other is linux
[02:25] <cisforcojo> alright if you've got an ALPS touchpad and have disabled tapping WHILE using a USB mouse, PLEASE help me
[02:25] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: what service did you send it with? gmail...yahoo...
[02:25] <cisforcojo> gmail
[02:25] <amena> linxeh: works great! (though I do not remmeber the passowrd :/ ) I suck
[02:26] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: i should have got it by now shouldn't i? i guess i'll wait a few more momments
[02:26] <cisforcojo> dammit
[02:26] <cisforcojo> i misread your email
[02:26] <Sircoelho> ah no way I'm moving to Fedora wight now
[02:26] <cisforcojo> it's my blinding reading speed
[02:27] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: that explains a lot. :)
[02:27] <SmileyLap> guys, i saw something somewhere about a new package to do wireless networks, anyone remind me of the name?
[02:27] <cisforcojo> alright for real this time... sent!
[02:28] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: for real this time, got it! what is this about frostwire needning java?
[02:28] <cisforcojo> yeah uses java unfortunately
[02:28] <cisforcojo> but i haven't noticed any slowdown or anything
[02:28] <cisforcojo> can't say the same with limewire
[02:28] <szymon> elo
[02:28] <marcell_> Hello everyone! I need some help: How can I take a look at my bandwith? Firefox can use 120KB/sec , but the other downloader-programms can use max 10KB/sec (of course not in the same time) So it seems to be, something steals my bandwith... I need a program or sth. which shows a table like Program - Bandwith.
[02:29] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: so on this java site, which one of these versions do i need?
[02:29] <szymon> i can't run tibia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:29] <szymon> help
[02:29] <cisforcojo> java site?
[02:29] <cisforcojo> sorry i don't follow
[02:29] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: i don't have java, so what do i need to download?
[02:29] <Arkaitz> Hey
[02:29] <kane77> Jarhead756, you need jre
[02:29] <agliv> Jarhead756: thanx it seems to be working ;)
[02:30] <szymon> kto pl??
[02:30] <Arkaitz> how do I turn on sound support (soundcore module)
[02:30] <Jarhead756> wait, never mind, i think i got it
[02:30] <cisforcojo> hmm.. i can't remember if frostwire is in the main ubuntu repos
[02:30] <szymon> kto pl??
[02:30] <szymon> kto pl??
[02:30] <szymon> kto pl??
[02:30] <szymon> kto pl??
[02:30] <cisforcojo> just try using sudo apt-get install frostwire
[02:30] <Arkaitz> Im having some troubles with the audio
[02:30] <SmileyLap> What is teh ubuntu recommended program to use wireless networks?
[02:30] <cisforcojo> and that should take care of it
[02:30] <kane77> SmileyLap, wifi-radar(?)
[02:30] <cisforcojo> SmilyLap: what kind? ad hoc? my wireless router worked straight out of the box
[02:30] <SmileyLap> kane77: ooo sounds funky
[02:31] <rambo3> !madwifi
[02:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:31] <SmileyLap> cisforcojo: its a laptop so it changes all the time ;)
[02:31] <marcell_> can someone help me with the bandwidth problem?
[02:31] <cisforcojo> Smiley: i have no problem with ubuntu's normal network settings
[02:31] <cisforcojo> works perfectly for me
[02:31] <szymon> kto pl??
[02:31] <kane77> !pl
[02:31] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:32] <rambo3> !worksforme
[02:32] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:32] <erUSUL> gugu^: i said that the thing you paosted seems a harmless warning...
[02:35] <fdr> hello, I would like to give Feisty a try, where can I find it, please? thanks!
[02:35] <gugu^> erUSUL, yes, but is not working
[02:35] <rambo3> fdr #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <fdr> rambo3, you mean I should ask for a download url in that channel?
[02:36] <rambo3> fdr read topic in that channel first
[02:36] <sladen> cisforcojo: Ad Hoc mode is for when there's no Access Point/router
[02:36] <Jarhead756> agliv: good job agliv so what are you needing to do?
[02:36] <fdr> rambo3, got it, thank you :)
[02:36] <anonymeeee> anyone familiar with bit torrent?
[02:36] <Jarhead756> anonymeeee: ...
[02:37] <sladen> anonymeeee: just ask
[02:37] <anonymeeee> ok...sorry...gotta stupid question
[02:37] <Jarhead756> anonymeeee: this is a linux distro channel, we um...like free stuff.
[02:37] <agliv> Jarhead756: that's a very long story... but at the moment I want to burn some data from the HD to a CD... currently trying to get k3b installed properly ;)
[02:37] <anonymeeee> the file search tab has disapeared...
[02:37] <cisforcojo> sladen: yea i kno
[02:38] <Jarhead756> agliv: k3b is alright, gnomebaker's good too
[02:38] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everybody
[02:38] <fotofl0> hmm I messed up when installing postfix - there was a dos-like installer (you know, the screen turns blue with ASCII borders)  and then i picked a wrong option. i just apt-get remove and apt-get clean -ed it but when i reinstall, it dosnt take me back to that dos-like installer
[02:38] <fotofl0> any suggestions?
[02:38] <nyc-h0st> hi all, i'm trying to mirror my system hard drive to a second one, they are exactly the same size, speed, etc, in a sense i'm trying to do a software raid, anyone know how to do this?
[02:38] <anonymeeee> how do I search for torrents if there's no search tab
[02:38] <anonymeeee> ?
[02:39] <erikja> !rip >erikja
[02:39] <erUSUL> gugu^: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart'
[02:39] <agliv> Jarhead756: I like k3b or nero4linux best... just have to work out all the dependencies ;)
[02:39] <gugu^> erUSUL, when i go to System-Adminstration-Printing, and put add printer in that list my H 1018 is not
[02:40] <Jarhead756> agliv: never tried nero4linux, do you know if that supports lightscribe?
[02:40] <CpuID2> nerolinux is rather basic
[02:40] <CpuID2> nowhere near the state of nero for windows
[02:40] <sladen> anonymeeee: bittorrent doesn't actually support searching for files;  normally that is done via a website, then downloading the '.torrent', then using bittorrent with that '.torrent' file to get the download
[02:40] <CpuID2> but it burns :)
[02:41] <gugu^> erUSUL, and i try`d this  'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart' and is not working
[02:41] <Jarhead756> sladen: use torrentspy.com, thats a good one.
[02:41] <sladen> anonymeeee: perhaps the graphical Client you are using (BitTornado, GnomeTorrent?) has a search feature that uses one of these websites, but the website is down
[02:41] <sladen> Jarhead756: anonymeeee is the person who is having difficulties
[02:42] <Jarhead756> sladen: oh, yeah, little confused
[02:42] <compwiz18> hallo
[02:42] <agliv> Jarhead756: I'm sorry, I don't... have more expierence with k3b...
[02:42] <Jarhead756> anonymeeee: use torrentspy.com, its a good site, download the torrentfile, open it with bittorent.
[02:42] <erUSUL> gugu^: gugu^ i do not know what went wrong... maybe you should ask in the forums linked in http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
[02:42] <Jarhead756> agliv: i use k3b because it is sorta integrated with amarok.
[02:42] <agliv> anonymeeee: you search for torrents in your web browser via google for exapmle...
[02:42] <compwiz18> I've got a Python question, anyone feel up to it?
[02:43] <Jarhead756> compwiz18: what is your python questoin?
[02:43] <gugu^> erUSUL, ok thx
[02:43] <SmileyLap> hey, rambo3 ?
[02:43] <agliv> Jarhead756: never heard of amarok...
[02:43] <rambo3> ?
[02:43] <Lynoure> compwiz18: if it is about Python and not Python in ubuntu, #python is more fruitful place.
[02:43] <SmileyLap> i followed the instructions on that site, ndiswrapper says the hardware is tehre and the driver is installed. yet the card doesn't light up :?
[02:43] <agliv> anonymeeee: what are you looking for / trying / wanting to download?
[02:43] <anonymeeee> well before i rebooted my box there were two tabs, one for downloads one for search...now there's only one
[02:44] <Jarhead756> agliv: its a music player, the best out there, if you like k3b, you'll love amarok, give it a try, but there are like 100mb of dependencies if you don't already have kde base
[02:44] <compwiz18> Jarhead756: when I'm using threads in a class, and I set a variable via self.variable, the thread stops executing...could you tell me why that is?
[02:44] <SmileyLap> infact rambo3, it now doesn't show up in network devices ?
[02:44] <compwiz18> Lynoure: i know, but you people are more friendly
[02:44] <anonymeeee> I'm looking for a particular software program that I need
[02:44] <agliv> anonymeeee: who cares if there is no search tab integrated, you get more and better results if you use google or a seperate web-based search englne
[02:45] <Jarhead756> compwiz18: oh, i don't know a thing about python, i was just getting you to ask your question, that way maybe someone else can answer it. :)
[02:45] <agliv> anonymeeee:  then type in google: "name of programm" + torrent
[02:45] <compwiz18> Jarhead756: ok, I'll go try my luck on the #python channel...I hope they aren't mean over there :P
[02:45] <kane77>  /join #python
[02:45] <kane77>  /join #python
[02:45] <agliv> anonymeeee: I'm sure you'll find lot's of results...
[02:45] <kane77> heh, sry
[02:46] <anonymeeee> I figured it out....I needed to restart the pluggins
[02:46] <fotofl0> how do i uninstall a package so that the system has no trace it was ever installed?
[02:46] <anonymeeee> huh...what do I do with it when I find it in google?
[02:47] <agliv> Jarhead756: my sound card isn't working yet so I haven't looked into music players for my system...
[02:47] <riven> this ubuntu install is driving me mad :(
[02:47] <anonymeeee> do I use ktorrent do download it once I find it in google?
[02:47] <agliv> riven: me too ;) what's your problem?
[02:47] <riven> agliv: its freezing at the partioning
[02:48] <fotofl0> can anyone help me? i need to uninstall a package, and leave no trace that it was ever there
[02:48] <agliv> anonymeeee: you found a torrent for the program you are looking for?
[02:48] <michael117> yes
[02:48] <bronze> fotofl0: apt-get remove, but it isn't known if all traces will be removed. it is not a security program
[02:48] <rambo3> SmileyLap,i raly cant help you on that card , not only does it use ndiswrapper . that is just temporery (beta) solution, but windows drivers aint that good.
[02:49] <Lynoure> bronze: no, it does not remove even the configurations
[02:49] <fotofl0> bronze: no luck... cause when i apt-get install the package after apt-get removing it, it dosnt run a setup program like it did the first time
[02:49] <agliv> riven: try using a GParted liveCD or updating GParted before installing... 2nd option is better... understand?
[02:49] <albacker> how can i enable direct rendering with intel inside graphics i810 ? i used to use 3ddesktop, but after alt+ctrl+bckspc i cant use it anymore... anyone ?
[02:49] <fotofl0> Lynoure: how do i get rid of the configureations?'
[02:49] <Jarhead756> cisforcojo: i can't get frostwire to work, i went to java.com and downloaded jre 1.5.11, or something like that, installed it, and it just won't work, frostwire still says it is missing
[02:49] <SmileyLap> rambo3: .... great :/
[02:49] <michael117> anonymeeee: Yes, or azureus or deluge or whatever
[02:49] <francois> fotofl0: sudo apt-get remove --purge
[02:49] <Lynoure> fotofl0: Why do you want there to be no trace?
[02:49] <compwiz18> fotofl0: sudo apt-get remove --purge PACKAGE_NAME
[02:50] <agliv> anonymeeee: azureus is way better than ktorrent in my oppinion, but not the version in the repositories, but the newest from their homepage ;)
[02:50] <Lynoure> compwiz18: That still leaves something, in most cases, if you think about what other things apt-get can do, you'll figure it out. :)
[02:51] <riven> agliv: so just use gpart to make the partions the way I want it, bypassing the ubuntu partioner
[02:51] <anonymeeee> i couldn't get azureus installed...
[02:51] <anonymeeee> ktorrent is working for me
[02:51] <fotofl0> compwiz: great, thansk
[02:52] <hairulfr> Hey all, if I wanna install feisty, how do I keep all my usersettings from Edgy? What do I need to copy? (If it can be done at all)
[02:52] <netsrot> got "error initializing HAL" when I installed recommended updates, what is that anyhow?
[02:53] <anonymeeee> azureus is difficult to install...i've noticed other people struggling with it here too
[02:53] <lynucs> the package is too buggy of azureus
[02:53] <riven> I find bit torrent to be a lot better then azureus on my windows machine
[02:53] <anonymeeee> i hadn't heard of deluge though
[02:54] <lynucs> but you can use automatix2 to install azureus.. very easy and works for me excellent
[02:54] <lynucs> or read the wiki :D
[02:54] <Lynoure> fotofl0: that does still leave a mild trace. But you can figure out what.
[02:54] <agliv> riven: in a word... yes
[02:55] <Jeruvy> netsrot: hardware abstration layer
[02:55] <SmileyLap> To compile my own programs, what packages do i need guys?
[02:55] <agliv> riven: torrent is my favorite on windows
[02:55] <anonymeeee> ok so I found a site on google that has what I want
[02:55] <albacker> CAN someone help me with direct renderin
[02:55] <anonymeeee> how do I get it into ktorrent?
[02:55] <albacker> it used to work but now it doesn't anymore...
[02:56] <vince_> hi all
[02:56] <raven3x7> does anone know if its possible to run sauerbraten on amd64/
[02:56] <raven3x7> ?
[02:57] <SmileyLap> To compile my own programs, what packages do i need guys?
[02:57] <X_Force> what do you mean ?
[02:57] <X_Force> "own program"
[02:57] <X_Force> which programming language?
[02:58] <agliv> riven:  anonymeeee: there is no doubt that azureus isn't the best bittorrent client for windows, and it ties up system memory; however, under Linux, I haven't found a bittorrent client that I liked as much... and I've downloaded over 100GB trying different clients
[02:58] <riven> agliv: when I get ubuntu working, I will give it a shot
[02:59] <SmileyLap> X_Force: such as a driver for my broadcom card...
[02:59] <SmileyLap> it says "make"
[02:59] <SmileyLap> :/
[02:59] <SmileyLap> i got make, automake, and autoconf.... anything else i need?
[02:59] <Jarhead756> i download java from the java.com site, installed it, and it doesn't fix my problem, i know how to fix it, how can i remove it? it was a .x86 file.
[02:59] <Azoff> hello
[03:00] <agliv> riven: make sure to complie your self!!! newest dependencies and everything then read the wiki about the best settings... there are a lot of advanced settings that make it pur like a kitten when tuned right ;)
[03:00] <albacker> guys can someone help me to enable direct rendering ? i had already enabled it, i was using 3ddesktop, after i restarted X it's not enabled anymore, glxinfo | grep rendering gives that its not enabled, and i cant start 3ddesktop anymore.. im using intel inside graphics i810.. can someone help me please ?!
[03:00] <agliv> anonymeeee: if you don't address you questions to me then I might miss your post...
[03:01] <Azoff> I am new too the ubuntu init, but is it possible to remove those numbers infront of stuff the kernel prints? currently, they are prefixed with [\d{8}\.\d{6}]  when running without quiet
[03:01] <egon> hi all
[03:01] <raven3x7> agliv: eve on widows the only competitive client is utorrent imo
[03:01] <raven3x7> even
[03:02] <agliv> anonymeeee: you first save the *.torrent file to somewhere on your HD (don't worry it's just a reference file that is fairly small)...
[03:02] <anonymeeee> agliv: sorry..
[03:02] <anonymeeee> agliv you've been very helpful thank you!
[03:03] <Narqulie> Hey.. I keep getting this weird Gcc error when I'm trying to ./configure anything.. What should I do?
[03:03] <raven3x7> Narqulie, you got build-essential installed?
[03:03] <agliv> raven3x7: never tried eve... I must admidt that I am unsatisfied by the configuration options of torrent; however, do not have the time to try out others at the moment... don't fix a running machine ;)
[03:04] <X_Force> Narquilie what is the error mesage?
[03:04] <enano> Hi! I'm getting this error when I try to load X, "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia. Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module". Ive googled it, but cant really find any useful info, hope any of you can help me out! Thanks!
[03:04] <Narqulie> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[03:04] <Narqulie> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[03:04] <agliv> anonymeeee: is it working?   Are we Green?
[03:05] <raven3x7> agliv, i meant "even on windows". sorry. Now you got me confused though what client on windows is better than bot utorrent and azureus?
[03:05] <anonymeeee> agliv I figured out that if i click on the torrent to download it automatically asks if I want to open it with ktorrent...
[03:05] <raven3x7> Narqulie, sudo apt-get built-essental
[03:05] <raven3x7> Narqulie, sudo apt-get built-essential
[03:06] <euphoria_> hi all
[03:06] <Narqulie> Ok, let's try it
[03:06] <anonymeeee> ...and goes thru the steps of downloading the torrent in the directory on my drive etc...
[03:06] <agliv> raven3x7: azeurus is not best under windows, but Linux in my opinion... what do you think is the best windows client?
[03:06] <anonymeeee> thank you again for your help!
[03:06] <raven3x7> Narqulie, that should install gcc because ubuntu does not install it by default
[03:06] <agliv> anonymeeee: STOP SENDING UNADDRESSED MESSAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:07] <anonymeeee> agliv; I really like this chat room, people here are really generous with help
[03:07] <anonymeeee> agliv: thank you again for your help!
[03:07] <joe234556> hi
[03:07] <agliv> anonymeeee: Thank you :)
[03:08] <riven> agliv: gpart isn't working on my other machine, goes through loading process, and when it goes to load graphics, it shuts off.
[03:08] <joe234556> anyone here that can tell me why i wouldnt be able to access my webserver at home from my ubuntu install, located somewhere else, other nodes on the same network as my ubuntu machine, can access it fine
[03:08] <raven3x7> agliv, i would say its a tie between azureus and utorrent depending on if you prefer configuration options or low resource usage
[03:08] <joe234556> also to help slim down possibilities, i can access it when i use a proxy
[03:08] <agliv> riven: your other machine?
[03:08] <X_Force> enano : try a sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:08] <greek_> hi everyone
[03:08] <riven> agliv: yes, I have another machine beside me
[03:08] <greek_> is it easy to set ubuntu for a server?
[03:08] <mojo> greek_: damm easy
[03:09] <mojo> greek_: install LAMP
[03:09] <tarzeau> anyeone play bub-n-bros with me? is really funny http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/bubnbros/bubtoomuch2full.png
[03:09] <mojo> greek_: LAMP = Linux + Apache2 + MySQL + PHP to become webserver
[03:09] <elkbuntu> !offtopic | tarzeau
[03:09] <ubotu> tarzeau: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:09] <yurimxpxman> hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 6.10 and when I used to open KDE applications in GNOME, like Amarok, they would work with the system tray. But ever since I installed the rest of the core KDE files, the KDE app system tray icons have been opening as a new window under GNOME. Any ideas why this could be? 0_o
[03:09] <mojo> greek_: you can install proFTPd to make it FTP server
[03:09] <flo_> isit posible to connect 2 ubuntu pc in a network only with a usb cable?
[03:09] <greek_> mojo: i just want to set up a home server just for smb and ftp access when i'm at uni
[03:10] <agliv> raven3x7: yeah, your probably right... and I should probably take the time to configure azureus on my WinDOOF box; however, I don't have the time at the moment.... 3 parallel system installs, and none working correctly...
[03:10] <mojo> greek_: easier, using Synaptic, search for NFS and Samba, get them installed and set them up
[03:10] <agliv> riven: another machine besides "you"? are you an android?
[03:10] <agliv> ;)
[03:10] <egon> have somone here installed Enemy Territory on their machine?
[03:10] <joe234556> anyone here that can tell me why i wouldnt be able to access my webserver at home from my ubuntu install, located somewhere else, other nodes on the same network as my ubuntu machine, can access it fine
[03:10] <mojo> greek_: for detail, dun ask me you have to work it out urself by reading doc, it's tedious process
[03:10] <joe234556> also to help slim down possibilities, i can access it when i use a proxy
[03:11] <riven> agliv: I might just be :)
[03:11] <Jeruvy> what would be the best way to export my mail folders in evolution to import in another installation?
[03:11] <raven3x7> agliv lol i know the feeling. i finally got ubuntu working fine at the moment.
[03:11] <cisforcojo> anyone here good with hotplugging scripts?
[03:11] <albacker> GUUYS have you heard about GDM restarting X ? ! i mean, it changed the driver back to i810 from flgrx [im not sure if its this] , after i reboot or anything.. what to do, to save my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?!
[03:11] <agliv> raven3x7: are we Green?
[03:11] <greek_> mojo: will i be able to remove the monitor ? and how will i have to connect to it without monitor attached to my server?
[03:11] <yurimxpxman> Jeruvy: just copy your ~/.evolution directory
[03:11] <raven3x7> Green?
[03:11] <enano> X_Force: it says "command not found"
[03:12] <Jeruvy> yurimxpxman: that's it?  nice thx.
[03:12] <raven3x7> aglet, Green?
[03:12] <agliv> raven3x7: haven't you seen "The Fifth Element" ?
[03:12] <jdphill> ?
[03:12] <yurimxpxman> hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 6.10 and when I used to open KDE applications in GNOME, like Amarok, they would work with the system tray. But ever since I installed the rest of the core KDE files, the KDE app system tray icons have been opening as a new window under GNOME. Any ideas why this could be? 0_o
[03:12] <agliv> raven3x7: I'm a film freak, you have to know....
[03:13] <cisforcojo> has anyone successfully disabled ALPS touchpad tapping?
[03:13] <agliv> yurimxpxman: why did you install the rest of the core KDE files?
[03:13] <hairulfr> yurimxpxman: Works fine here without the, probably cos of the core files it doesn't work :P7
[03:13] <yurimxpxman> agliv: Because I'm trying to get used to KDE because my friends like it
[03:13] <dtolj> Hi all, question: is it possible to install and use Edgy packages in Dapper?
[03:13] <mojo> greek_: yes, you can remove the monitor, w/o monitor, the only thing you can control ur server from far is via SSH, you can install SSH by install SSH SERVER package on ur server
[03:13] <raven3x7> agliv, i have. a long time ago though. cant remember much about. cept milla yovovich(dunno if i typed that correctly) ;)
[03:13] <hairulfr> yurimxpxman: Eew, who want's kde
[03:13] <TheVault> I got a quick question. I guess you could say that this does relate to ubuntu. Anyway, I have been fiddling around with Linux for the paste few days(Ubuntu 6.10) on my laptop(which I should not because thats my primary computer). Anyway, I wanna setup linux on my desktop, problem being is that, I have a built in CD burner, not a DVD burner but I have a external one and I wanna be able to...
[03:14] <TheVault> ...boot 6.10 using my external DVD drive, is there a way for me to change the boot options under windows so I can install ubuntu?
[03:14] <agliv> yurimxpxman: but if it was working before, then why install extra features?
[03:14] <agliv> raven3x7: she was HOT in that movie ;)
[03:15] <yurimxpxman> agliv: The KDE /apps/ were working before, but I did not have the KDE base installed. I installed the rest of KDE so I could login to it and try to force myself to like it (but I still don't, to be honest).
[03:15] <davef> hi
[03:15] <dtolj> TheVault: not sure what you mean u mean the boot loader?
[03:15] <raven3x7> agliv and still is most of the time
[03:15] <Narqulie> Ok.. What else am I missing?. I got the essentials installed, and now the configure is whining about missing python headers... ?
[03:15] <fabius71> hi all..I'd like to install a openwebmail server on my ubuntu edgy for test purposes.. is there a way for that from apt ?
[03:16] <joe234556> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:16] <joe234556> what sorts of things can cause that error?
[03:16] <dtolj> Narqulie: for what?
[03:16] <joe234556> corrupt drivers maybe?
[03:16] <Narqulie> for .&configuring anything
[03:16] <Narqulie> */
[03:16] <TheVault> dtojl: Right now I have windows xp on my desktop which I am going to replace with Ubuntu 6.10(for now anyway). Anyway, I have a built in CD burner/reader that won't read the DVD that has Ubuntu on it, but I have an external DVD reader/burner that I would like to boot up first so I can install Ubuntu when I first turn my PC on
[03:17] <drewzf> When I fdisk -l I show /dev/hdd1, an NTFS drive, but I can't mount it. "mount: special device /dev/hdd1 does not exist" Any ideas/suggestions?
[03:17] <raven3x7> yurimxpxman, thats weird actually. on amd64 i also have a full kde install and it works with the gnome panel
[03:17] <euphoria_> can help me, when im start beryl-manager im have this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8383/
[03:17] <mcscruff> lo all
[03:17] <raven3x7> Narqulie, apt-get python-devel i think
[03:17] <Narqulie> Thanks again Raven ^_^
[03:18] <raven3x7> Narqulie, what are you trying to build anyway
[03:18] <riven> agliv: any idea why gparted would get through command line loading, but go black when it hits graphical interface?
[03:18] <Narqulie> Raven: well, Anything really :)
[03:18] <euphoria_> my xorg.conf are: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8388/
[03:18] <yurimxpxman> Does anyone else have a clue of what could cause KDE apps to open notification icons in a window under GNOME?
[03:18] <egon> If " glxinfo | grep rendering" return "Direct rendering:Yes" does it mean that drivers are ok?
[03:19] <joe234556> anyone here that can tell me why i wouldnt be able to access my webserver at home from my ubuntu install, located somewhere else, other nodes on the same network as my ubuntu machine, can access it fine
[03:19] <joe234556> also to help slim down possibilities, i can access it when i use a proxy
[03:19] <raven3x7> for anything that is in ubuntu repo you can also do apt-get built-dep program
[03:19] <agliv> raven3x7: anyway Chris Rock plays the eccentric disk-jokey "Ruby Rod" and he is always concerned about how good his show is and uses "Green" as a measurement of quality / comprehension / and understanding... i.e. Super Green is very high quality and are we green means do you understand or do you agree or is everything good, Green? (now you are supposed to answer....? fill in the blank if everything is ok ;)
[03:19] <dtolj> TheVault: so why dosnt it boot? maybe you need to make it bootable in BIOS your external
[03:19] <euphoria_> direct rendering: Yes
[03:19] <uksprout> hi running 6.10 can anyone tell me how I go about installing and using a tape drive
[03:20] <agliv> riven: did you compile it yourself? or did you just use the package manager?
[03:20] <Isarl> Hi everyone - does anybody know how to get NetworkManager working?  I'm not sure what's going wrong with mine...
[03:20] <abo> maven is complaining that JAVA_HOME is not defined, I dont' want to define JAVA_HOME, I want to keep it the way ubuntu manages the different JREs , anyone can help?
[03:20] <Lynoure> joe234556: I'm not sure I get you right. You have a webserver at home, and the world can access it fine but when you take your ubuntu laptop out into the world, it cannot?
[03:20] <Isarl> that is, I can install it and it appears in the panel, but wireless networks aren't listed.
[03:20] <riven> agliv: I burned it as an ISO to use on the other computer
[03:20] <fabius71> no one has experience with openwebmail on ubuntu edgy, right?
[03:20] <GMWeezel> When I try to install an app from Synaptic, I get this error even though my repositories are up to date: "Depends: libc6 (>=2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4 is to be installed"
[03:21] <joe234556> exactly lynoure, for some reason i cant access it
[03:21] <agliv> riven: you mean the latest LiveCD?
[03:21] <raven3x7> agliv ok i get it. that was arcane though D: Super Green
[03:21] <Lynoure> joe234556: you can access other websites with that ubuntu lappy?
[03:21] <joe234556> if i go to another node on the network i am on, i can access it
[03:21] <riven> agliv: yes
[03:21] <TheVault> dtolj: How would I do this. This is the first time iv actually asked this question
[03:21] <joe234556> yes internet otherwise is working fine
[03:21] <raven3x7> Narqulie, for anything that is in ubuntu repo you can also do apt-get built-dep program
[03:21] <TheVault> dtojl: or have actually done for that matter
[03:22] <Lynoure> joe234556: "I'm on" in the same network the server is or do you mean this happens only in some specific network location?
[03:22] <dtolj> TheVault: well i dont have external drives but i am guessing theres an option in your BIOS, press F2 of similar when u boot your laptop
[03:22] <agliv> raven3x7: well, it's good that were Green about Green; however were not yet Green in general (still have problems ;)
[03:22] <Narqulie> Raven: Umm.. I can do WHAT? :)
[03:22] <GMWeezel> How can I upgrade to libc6 2.4? The newest version is the repositories is 2.36.
[03:22] <joe234556> it appears to be confined to just this laptop
[03:22] <Lynoure> joe234556: No matter where it is? Ok.
[03:22] <joe234556> other pcs/laptops have no problems access the home server
[03:22] <drewzf> My fdisk -l shows "/dev/hdd1", but the file doesn't exist
[03:23] <agliv> agliv: I'd say on a scale from dirty green to emerald, were not even olive yet ;)
[03:23] <TheVault> Dotlj: Nah, I am on my desktop at the moment, so lemme reboot and see if I can change the options from their
[03:23] <dtolj> TheVault: you have to make your DVD boot up to be able to read the disk at startup to load the os
[03:23] <joe234556> doesnt allow any of the protocols to the homeserver either
[03:23] <joe234556> ftp ssh, ect..
[03:23] <TheVault> Dtolj: I would do that by pressing the F12 during bootup?
[03:23] <egon> If " glxinfo | grep rendering" return "Direct rendering:Yes" does it mean that drivers are ok?
[03:23] <Lynoure> joe234556: try  traceroute yourwebserverip
[03:23] <dtolj> TheVault: or F2 or F5
[03:24] <raven3x7> Narqulie, err sorry apt-get build-dep program
[03:24] <TheVault> dtolj: Alright, lemme do that real quick and lemme see what happens
[03:24] <TheVault> brb
[03:24] <agliv> riven: that doesn't sound too good... so let me get this straight.... the newest spiffyest (is that even a word? ) version of gparted bellys-up when trying to do what you ask?
[03:24] <joe234556> trying
[03:24] <dtolj> TheVault: press it repeatedly
[03:24] <Narqulie> raven3x7: Still not making too much sense tbh :))
[03:24] <riven> agliv: indeed, I am in the red!
[03:24] <raven3x7> Narqulie, that will fetch all build dependencies, at leat for the version in ubuntu repos
[03:25] <agliv> riven: oops, I addressed a post that was supposed to go to you to myself, how stupid can you be?
[03:25] <erikja> !soundconverter >erikja
[03:25] <Lynoure> joe234556: another thing worth trying is   route   as that too can tell if the traffic is going to the wrong place
[03:25] <Narqulie> raven3x7: Ah ! You pro's and your jargon :))
[03:25] <agliv> riven: so you cought it anyway?
[03:25] <euphoria_> can help me, when im start beryl-manager im have this error in the console: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8383/
[03:25] <elkbuntu> agliv, it is quite easy to do
[03:25] <agliv> agliv: that's good ;)
[03:26] <dtolj> is it safe to install packages from Edgy repo on Dapper?
[03:26] <agliv> elkbuntu: Yes it's any easy mistake, but you must admit a rather silly and pointless one !!!
[03:26] <Lynoure> joe234556: and if  /etc/hosts  contains the name of your webserver, that's pretty much the cause.
[03:26] <raven3x7> Narqulie, so if you want to build say mplayer, "apt-get build-dep mplayer" will get all dependencies(all necessary files to compile) for mplayer
[03:26] <joe234556> ok traceroute is not getting past the router
[03:26] <Cin> are there any good personal organisers on the package collection?
[03:26] <Skew-> has anyone noticed that digg runs terribly slow on ubuntu?
[03:27] <joe234556> ok traceroute is not getting past the router
[03:27] <joe234556> checking other suggestions
[03:27] <dtolj> Skew-: its the digg effect has nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:27] <Cin> digg runs fine on my Ubuntu
[03:27] <agliv> raven3x7: Narqulie: Yes and no... raven3x7 is only telling you 1/2 the story to getting mplayer installed correctly...
[03:27] <Skew-> what digg effect?
[03:27] <Narqulie> Raven3x7: Ok, But what about stuff that's not in the repo? Can't I just Dl some big pack with gazillions of necessities that will compile anything?
[03:27] <Skew-> i'm just viewing the main site and that, no fancy graphics, and still it's extremely slow :(
[03:27] <kingace> hello
[03:28] <dtolj> Skew-: i thought u meant on the server
[03:28] <kingace> is there some way of using like a gamepad or joystick as a mouse
[03:28] <kingace> i just think that would be fun
[03:28] <enano> I found out that the nVidia driver works if I use Kernel 2.6.17-10, but not with 2.6.17-11. Do I have to upgrade something? Thanks!
[03:28] <Cin> how do you mean by runs slow? a web site isn't a process
[03:28] <dtolj> Skew-: what browser u using?
[03:28] <Skew-> firefox
[03:28] <Lynoure> joe234556: if this indeed happens no matter where on the internet your laptop is, it's not about the router but it could be about your routes.
[03:28] <Skew-> it runs slow while scrolling up and down through the pages, and expanding/closing comments
[03:28] <edgymike> Hi everyone, I'm an ubuntu newb with multiple issues, the most important of which right now is that I'm getting no sound.  It installed with no sound, but the sound drivers were working, I followed the instructions I found on the forums to fix it, fixed it.  Reboot sometime later, and it looks like the sound drivers won't load now.  I've tried going through the Sound Guide with no luck.  Nothing I do lets that driver load (so it 
[03:29] <raven3x7> Narqulie, unfortunaly no. but there between universe and multiverse there are not that many programs not in a ubuntu repo
[03:29] <dtolj> Skew-: well that kind of happens to me too
[03:29] <agliv> Damm, I'm correcting corrections... how "Besserwisserisch" ummm Better knower like....
[03:29] <joe234556> Lynoure: im going to do a [pastebin of all the results incluinding host config
[03:29] <dtolj> Skew-: guess the web2.0 is a bloat
[03:30] <Lynoure> joe234556: that's good
[03:30] <raven3x7> agliv my windows install is definetly in the red. whenever i open a browser it just freezes lol
[03:30] <Narqulie> raven3x7: Can this repo be seen somewhere, like, a list of programs that are in it?
[03:30] <Jowi> edgymike, what did you do to make it work? did you modprobe its driver to make it work? if you did and it is not working after a reboot you should put that module in the /etc/modules file
[03:30] <agliv> raven3x7: what does Windows have to do with gparted?
[03:31] <edgymike> Well, I thought I just edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and added in an options line
[03:31] <edgymike> but that was because I was trying to make my digital sound work.  the driver was loading at that point
[03:31] <agliv> raven3x7: you trying to add ubuntu to a Windows system?
[03:31] <GMWeezel> How do I add the feisty and edgy eft repositories to my list?
[03:31] <dtolj> GMWeezel: in Synaptic Package Manger
[03:31] <edgymike> when I rebooted, it worked for 1 whole reboot.  I don't remember making other changes, but sound hasn't worked since.
[03:31] <agliv> GMWeezel: Google is your friend
[03:31] <erUSUL> GMWeezel: you won't you can ot mix repos of two different releases
[03:31] <joe234556> Lynoure: im embarassed to ask but how do i correctly execute a route command?
[03:32] <dtolj> erUSUL: Why not?
[03:32] <raven3x7> Narqulie, sure. go to System->Administration-> Software Sources and enable community maintened... and prpriarety drivers for ...
[03:32] <GMWeezel> erUSUL: Can or not run a mix?
[03:32] <dtolj> erUSUL: If you want only small packages not related to OS it should work?
[03:32] <rcmiv> hello all.  is there any way to change the bg color of gnome tooltips?  i'm using feisty
[03:32] <Lynoure> joe234556: just   route    nothing else
[03:32] <dtolj> GMWeezel: thats what i am wondering
[03:33] <klimraamkosie> "gnomesword:
[03:33] <klimraamkosie>  Depends: libsword5c2a (>=1.5.8-7) but it is not installable"  What do I do about this?
[03:33] <raven3x7> Narqulie, sure. go to System->Administration-> and open Synaptic
[03:33] <Jowi> edgymike, so you have more than one card? when you run alsamixer, is the correct card listed?
[03:33] <edgymike> jowi: I have onboard sound, 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:33] <edgymike>         Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Unknown device 0c48
[03:33] <edgymike> 
[03:33] <Lynoure> joe234556: (man route  if you are curious, but that's not relevant yet)
[03:33] <Narqulie> raven3x7: Roger
[03:33] <edgymike> jowi: oh I do have a tuner card
[03:33] <joe234556> ty
[03:33] <raven3x7> agliv nevermind that was OT
[03:33] <agliv> raven3x7: If my windows doesn't freeze at least once an hour I start to get concerned ;)
[03:33] <GMWeezel> dtojl: Berly needs libc6 2.4 but it isn't available for Dapper so I am at a stand still for now.
[03:33] <HamishTPB> does anyone know why webmin is not available any more in ubuntu? Is it something sinister to do with security or just that no-one maintains it? I don't mind installing it "by hand" but if there are some issues with it then I would rather know :)
[03:33] <edgymike> jowi: ATI HD Wonder card
[03:34] <erUSUL> dtolj: is not supported and can lead to screewed beyond repair systems...
[03:34] <Jowi> edgymike, what does "asoundconf list" say?
[03:34] <Lynoure> joe234556: you should get about 4 lines of output, starting with a line saying "Kernel IP routeing table"
[03:34] <joe234556> ok
[03:34] <edgymike> Jowi: Names of available sound cards: <blank>
[03:35] <klimraamkosie> "gnomesword: Depends: libsword5c2a (>=1.5.8-7) but it is not installable" - Where do I go from here?
[03:35] <raven3x7> agliv well i ussualy get XP stable but my new pc seems to be having driver conflicts
[03:35] <brosment> Hi. Do anybody know how to add shortcuticon (favicon.ico) to the BE (NOT FE)???
[03:35] <agliv> raven3x7: you've confused me, are you still having problems, and if so of what nature?  I want you to be Super Green ;)
[03:35] <Jowi> edgymike, that is... a bit... not good :)
[03:35] <agliv> klimraamkosie: Try googling that exact error ;)
[03:35] <edgymike> Jowi: yeah... I have no idea what happened :(  When I do aplay, it says: no soundcards found
[03:35] <rcmiv> change the bg color of gnome tooltips?  anyone?
[03:36] <Jowi> edgymike, "cat /proc/asound/cards" ?
[03:36] <raven3x7> Narqulie, if synaptic confuses you Applications -> Add/remove is much simpler
[03:36] <edgymike> --- no soundcards ---
[03:36] <agliv> raven3x7: I thought you were having problems with gparted.... now your haing problems with Windows???
[03:37] <raven3x7> aglet, me? no that was someone else
[03:37] <riven> agliv: im having problems with gparted
[03:37] <TheCutter> hello everyone
[03:37] <raven3x7> agliv, , me? no that was someone else
[03:37] <joe234556> Lynoure: http://pastebin.com/892689
[03:37] <mrcheeks> hello TheCutter
[03:37] <TheCutter> got a question: is there a way to install ubuntu on a lg phenom handheld device?
[03:37] <agliv> raven3x7: I confused you with riven ;)
[03:38] <TheCutter> it runs win CE and has no hd
[03:38] <TheCutter> what do you think?
[03:38] <mrcheeks> I don't know
[03:38] <mrcheeks> but I don't think so
[03:38] <agliv> raven3x7: riven Why do you both have such similar nicknames damit ;)
[03:38] <darkcommon> what i need to do for XChat autoidentify me?
[03:39] <Jowi> edgymike, try "modprobe snd_intel8x0"
[03:39] <TheCutter> pity
[03:39] <agliv> riven: be with you in a sec
[03:39] <TheCutter> they say it can work on a hp
[03:39] <raven3x7> agliv lol
[03:39] <amimusa> hello people, i have this repositorie: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras, it is ok? because I get Ign when I do an update ... please help
[03:39] <agliv> raven3x7: ok, so are or were you having problems?
[03:39] <edgymike> Jowi: ran it. it is... just sitting there
[03:39] <Lynoure> joe234556: aha!
[03:39] <agliv> raven3x7: or are we Green?
[03:39] <joe234556> u found something?
[03:40] <Lynoure> joe234556: The ip you tracerouted was not a public ip, but a local one...
[03:40] <Jowi> edgymike, so no errors. good... asoundconf list
[03:40] <SmileyLap> hey guys, where can i find the working kernel?
[03:40] <agliv> riven: I hope you're laughing with me and not about me ;)  But don't worry, I've got a good sence of humor...
[03:40] <edgymike> Jowi: umm, not so good. it didn't return a prompt.  it is just sitting there executing
[03:41] <riven> agliv: its alright, its a common mistake that many people make
[03:41] <agliv> riven: raven3x7: DAMIT I DID IT AGAIN
[03:41] <Lynoure> joe234556: if you try to access it with that, it always stops at the router as the router thinks this address is on this side (private side) of the router
[03:41] <raven3x7> agliv as green as is possible right now.  well except that vlc doesnt fullscreen that is
[03:41] <raven3x7> agliv lol
[03:41] <Jowi> edgymike, ctrl-c. what did you change after you got it to work?
[03:41] <Lynoure> joe234556: Try with the public ip or name instead.
[03:42] <agliv> riven: raven3x7 Oops I did it again, I missaddressed my posts to the wrong hosts... uoo baby baby... ;)
[03:42] <rcmiv> Is it possible to change the color of gnome tooltips?
[03:42] <quaal> if i have a share of an ntfs partition in ubuntu and i access it from a windows computer, if i edit it from the windows computer is windows doing the editing or is ubuntu ?
[03:42] <joe234556> ok thx ill look into it
[03:42] <bulmer> joe234556: i came in a bit late..whats the router problem?
[03:42] <Dream_Boy> DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:42] <Lynoure> !caps | Dream_Boy
[03:42] <ubotu> Dream_Boy: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:42] <joe234556> bulmer: http://pastebin.com/892689
[03:42] <edgymike> Jowi: That's kind of the problem.  I was already at my wits end trying to get digital sound working.  Then I found the edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and add an options line, and it worked for just 1 reboot.  I really don't remember changing anything else.
[03:43] <rcmiv> quaal, sounds like windows is doing the editing
[03:43] <bulmer> joe234556: not able to hit it..summary?
[03:43] <raven3x7> agliv lol happens to me all the time. damn auto completion
[03:43] <edgymike> Jowi: but I had changed a lot before that, including installing the latest alsa drivers according to the instructions.  I have since tried to back it all out using the Sound Guide, but that didn't fix it
[03:43] <Jowi> edgymike, can you revert the changes you did to alsa-base?
[03:43] <Dream_Boy> you just cant stand someone different ? so what if one writes in caps ?
[03:43] <quaal> rcmiv, therefore it should be safe to make changes from the windows machine..
[03:43] <joe234556> Lynoure: only flaw to your resolution is that i can access the server using any other node
[03:43] <agliv> raven3x7: were good, which is good but sudo apt-get build-dep xyz isn't the best way to completely and correctly install xyz (FYI)
[03:44] <quaal> Dream_Boy, no, we just cant stand trolldouches
[03:44] <edgymike> Jowi: I can try again, but I thought I was pretty careful the first time I did the revert steps
[03:44] <rcmiv> quaal it would seem so, but what do you mean by 'share'?
[03:44] <Jowi> edgymike, see if this help you. go here http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and identify the soundcard and the exact driver it should use. then "sudo modprobe" the driver.
[03:44] <Lynoure> joe234556: you can? I bet I cannot access your server with that ip
[03:44] <edgymike> ok 1 moment
[03:44] <joe234556> give it a try if you dont mind
[03:44] <Lynoure> joe234556: oh, misread.
[03:44] <raven3x7> agliv i know but its a quick and dirty way to get all essential buid dependencies for xyz
[03:44] <quaal> rcmiv, the ubuntu machine is sharing it, and the xp box is accessing it via the LAN.
[03:44] <edgymike> Jowi: Thanks for helping me, I'm going nuts. :)
[03:44] <agliv> riven: I be back to help you out in bout 2 min, K?
[03:44] <riven> agliv: ok
[03:45] <quaal> rcmiv, its called a network share
[03:45] <agliv> raven3x7: yep
[03:45] <rcmiv> quaal also, from what i've read lately, ntfs-3g is pretty stable nowadays (for writing to ntfs)
[03:45] <SmileyLap> Hi ghuys, i need to build a driver against my kernel sources, where can i find these?
[03:45] <quaal> rcmiv, yea.. im still not sure that i trust it though
[03:45] <mcscruff> linux-headers
[03:45] <xtknight> SmileyLap: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[03:46] <SmileyLap> xtknight: no snampic package?
[03:46] <edgymike> Jowi: ohh what a cool page, I'm going to save that one.  ok gonna run the modprobes now
[03:46] <xtknight> SmileyLap: `linux-header` is a debian package available via apt-get or synaptic
[03:46] <xtknight> linux-headers*
[03:46] <SmileyLap> xtknight: ok becausei saw loads, din't know which one i needed :)
[03:47] <xtknight> SmileyLap: it's a pseudo package that points to what you need
[03:47] <joe234556> Lynoure: it resolves the ip to the hostname but cannot route to it
[03:47] <dtolj> ub	ddfdfddfdf
[03:47] <jo_> hello, somebody knows how to change IRQ?
[03:47] <deep> !cron
[03:47] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[03:47] <xtknight> yikes
[03:47] <Jowi> jo_, BIOS
[03:47] <agliv> riven: care to join me in #agliv-chat?
[03:47] <Lynoure> joe234556: Sorry about the misread. the traceroute to it from is long and boggy, and still going on.
[03:47] <raven3x7> agliv: and you must admit that racking down dependencies is not fun at all
[03:48] <aa_> hi, any set way to make python2.5 the default version in edgy?
[03:48] <SmileyLap> xtknight: ok erm 386 or generic? as im running a P4, i would think 386?
[03:48] <edgymike> Jowi: ok, it tells me to install snd-intel8x0 and i810_audio
[03:48] <xtknight> aa_: symlink the regular python binary to the specific python 2.5 one?
[03:48] <edgymike> Jowi: The latter loads, the Former hangs
[03:48] <mrcheeks> aa_, I think there are still dependencies upon python 2.4
[03:48] <agliv> raven3x7: definately, yes... you are invited too if you want to just chat... better there then here ;)
[03:48] <aa_> mrcheeks: so best not to do it yet?
[03:48] <xtknight> SmileyLap: try this in the terminal, youll be all set:   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:48] <edgymike> Jowi: I used the -v option to see verbose messages, however nothing displays, it just hangs.
[03:48] <crdlb> aa_, not a good idea
[03:49] <mrcheeks> aa_, yes
[03:49] <crdlb> aa_, they can be installed in parallel for a reason
[03:49] <Jowi> edgymike, you mentioned before that you "upgraded" the driver...?
[03:49] <bullgard2> I obtained an "script error exit status 32". I do not much know about bash programming. Where can I find a list explaining the meaning of this return code?
[03:49] <edgymike> Jowi: I followed instructions on downloading the alsa drivers from the alsa project, and installed each package (driver, utils, libs)
[03:50] <topato> I need ftp access to my server, is there a "better" option out there?
[03:50] <topato> I mean, which ftp server software should Ichoose?
[03:50] <Jowi> edgymike, possibly where the hang is coming from.
[03:50] <dtolj> quaal: what ever os makes the changes
[03:50] <Lynoure> joe234556: it reached it, and then continued after. Interesting. But with web client I got to it fine and normally.
[03:51] <Kumagoro> Umm, guys, just a simple question
[03:51] <aa_> crdlb: well, all pythons can be installed parallel, I was just wondering. I am a python developer and I need to start doing 2.5
[03:51] <joe234556> right, the problem is isolated to the ubuntu install
[03:51] <Kumagoro> where can i get the human iconset for KDE in good quality
[03:51] <drewzf> I have tried EVERY ntfs tutorial available, even an auto-mount script (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-7d5da05389ce1c069142effba13bc3ff1e71d7bb). Fdisk -l has an entry for /dev/hdd1 where it shows "/dev/hdd1   *           1       16708   134206978+   7  HPFS/NTFS", but when I mount -a it returns "mount: special device /dev/hdd1 does not exist"
[03:51] <Kumagoro> the ones on kde-look are blurred
[03:51] <edgymike> Jowi: I'll find the links for the instructions I followed
[03:51] <dtolj> Kumagoro: kdelook.org
[03:52] <raven3x7> agliv ?
[03:52] <drewzf> Why would fdisk show the partition, but /dev/hdd1 doesn't exist?
[03:52] <Jowi> edgymike, ok, I would recommend that you try to use the ones included in ubuntu. that should not hang. we need at least something successful or an error to see what's going on.
[03:52] <crdlb> aa_, I believe lot's of stuff will break
[03:52] <Ababakar> Hello all
[03:52] <Iznougoud> I'd like to connect a system withiut a NIC to the LAN using the TCP/IP-stack through the serial port of a PC which is connected to the LAN. Is there any simple way of doing this using Ubuntu, and if so how (being a newbie as far as Linux goes) or is there a need of third party software?
[03:53] <Jowi> edgymike, I am sort of half-available atm. If I don't answer you, send me a message.
[03:53] <drewzf> Anyone?
[03:53] <dtolj> drewzf: you dont need a script just make sure u have it setup in /etc/fstab
[03:53] <joe234556> wouldnt you have hdd0?
[03:54] <sureshot> hey all i need to know if simh or any other vms emulator is in your repos if so i will switch to ubuntu Please need to know
[03:54] <bulmer> drewzf: does not exist? you meant not mounted?
[03:54] <drewzf> dtolj: That's what I'm here for. It is set up. There is no /dev/hdd1 existant.
[03:54] <dtolj> drewzf: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    noauto,ro,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[03:54] <drewzf> ls /dev/hdd1 returns nothin
[03:54] <drewzf> I know, I have it set up properly.
[03:54] <edgymike> Jowi: Ok I followed directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto   then later I did http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:54] <Ababakar> Is there a way to use linux-k7 kernel instead of generic ??
[03:54] <drewzf> fdisk returns it, but the file itself doesn't exist...
[03:55] <dtolj> drewzf: is it ntfs partition
[03:55] <maccam912> has anyone else here tried installing herd 5?
[03:55] <drewzf> ...
[03:55] <drewzf> Did you not see the output of fdisk?
[03:55] <agliv> raven3x7: if you want to chat, you can join us in #agliv-chat, better there than here where people are looking for support...
[03:55] <bulmer> drewzf: you need to mount it
[03:55] <drewzf> This isn't an average problem, I've been through ntfs, ntfs-fuse, ntfs-3g, I've tried every tutorial available.
[03:55] <drewzf> Wow.
[03:55] <w0rmy> hi, can anyone tell me how can I remove a package MANUALLY ? apt-get got a bit confused and I wanna remove a problematic package from its list
[03:56] <joe234556> bulmer did you get the opportunity to look at the astebin?
[03:56] <w0rmy> like where the config file or list file is located.... I cant seem to find
[03:56] <w0rmy> it
[03:56] <drewzf> Did you guys even read my issue?
[03:56] <drewzf> I had my mount output posted already
[03:56] <drewzf> mount: special device /dev/hdd1 does not exist
[03:56] <Prometheum> Hello, I'm running feisty and for some reason when I hit ctl+alt+f1-f6, my usual login screen isn't there. Is there any way to fix this?
[03:57] <drewzf> I can't mount or fstab for a device that for some reason doesn't exist.
[03:57] <drewzf> But it is shown to exist in fdisk.
[03:57] <sureshot> hey all i need to know if simh or any other vms emulator is in your repos if so i will switch to ubuntu Please need to know
[03:57] <drewzf> And the hardware is there, and the partition is ntfs.
[03:57] <bulmer> joe234556: yeah, hard to troubleshoot, you need to give me some more insights
[03:57] <drewzf> But /dev/hdd is listed.
[03:57] <drewzf> But won't mount.
[03:57] <Ababakar> i know "generic" kernel is supposed to be ok for amd but uname -a gives me "2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux" 686 SMP on my Athlon XP (??? why smp seems wrong since proc is alone and single core and isn't 686 supposed to mean Intel ??)
[03:57] <aa_> crdlb: ok thanks for the advice, I won't do it
[03:57] <joe234556> what specifically do you need?
[03:57] <aa_> thanks everyone
[03:58] <maccam912> does anyone else have problems with the migration step in the feisty installer?
[03:58] <bulmer> drewzf: attempt to reboot and see if it is detected..
[03:58] <dtolj> drewzf: i could be wrong but isnt hdd for cdrom/dvd
[03:58] <drewzf> bulmer I've done this already
[03:58] <drewzf> You are wrong.
[03:58] <drewzf> hdc is for cd/dvd
[03:58] <bulmer> joe234556: all i see after you traceroute is ** which is hard to figure out...explain how are you connected
[03:58] <drewzf> But my hdd is mounted as a slave to hdc
[03:59] <dtolj> drewzf: hmm my is hdd
[03:59] <drewzf> Because that's the only IDE chain in my system
[03:59] <drewzf> Good for you.
[03:59] <dtolj> drewzf: u got some messed up system then
[03:59] <bulmer> drewzf: what shows up on dmesg for hdd?
[03:59] <drewzf> I've rebooted, mounted, modified fstab properly, any other suggestions?
[04:00] <Prometheum> Is there any way to turn on extra login terminals in feisty? I need to install the latest nvidia driver, and I can't do that while X is running, but when I sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, I'm left with seven blank black screens.
[04:00] <bulmer> drewzf: and this is a ntfs partition you say?
[04:00] <drewzf> [17179576.576000]  hdd: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[04:00] <joe234556> um standard lan/router connection, the problem is that i am trying to connect to my home server (http) but for some reason my ubuntu install seems to be the only node in the world that can't access it
[04:00] <deep> I dont understand how the "day of the month"-number would be in the crontab, if i want to run the command once a week. Any help?
[04:00] <jo_> Jowi: thanks, changing IRQ under BIOS not possible, cause laptop with limited BIOS-options
[04:00] <bulmer> joe234556: there is no such thing as just standard..elaborate so i can assist a bit better
[04:01] <joe234556> bulmer i apologize for my ignorance, but i am unsure as to the specific information you are expecting
[04:01] <bulmer> drewzf: umm isnt that a clue that the bios detected your hdd and it failed because of an error?
[04:02] <bulmer> joe234556: okay..you have a pc with ubuntu...connected to what next? via a cat5?
[04:02] <bronze> deep crontab has fields for both day of month (0-31) and day of week,  (0-6)
[04:02] <deep> !cron
[04:02] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[04:02] <deep> O.o
[04:02] <w0rmy> could some one tell me where apt-get saves the information ?!
[04:02] <drewzf> bulmer: Without my SATA drive in the ntfs drive boots fine
[04:03] <jo_> !IRQ
[04:03] <wwallace_lap> !bot
[04:03] <w0rmy> could some one tell me where apt-get save information about whats going on ?
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <deep> Aaaah! :D *slams head into keyboard*
[04:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:03] <bulmer> drewzf: btw..i seem to notice that lots of people having difficulties with SATA drives..some are doing okay with it, but i see lots of reported problems with it here..
[04:03] <joe234556> bulmer: wireless going directly to the router
[04:04] <bulmer> joe234556: those kind of tidbits helps.. :)
[04:04] <joe234556> i apologize i was not sure what info you needed
[04:04] <bulmer> joe234556: okay, so your ubuntu connects via wifi, and it has an ip address of 192.168.0.x right?
[04:04] <joe234556> uh huh
[04:05] <kari> have maybe anybody books in pdf with programing in python?
[04:05] <sureshot> i need to ask a question about your repos if i may
[04:05] <dtolj> kari: chmpdf.com
[04:05] <r00t-> kari: dive into python
[04:05] <bulmer> joe234556: and your other pc's are connected via wireless on same router or via a cat5 cable?
[04:05] <bronze> kari: there are websites about it.  is the ODf requirement ansd absoluet?
[04:05] <bronze> *PDF
[04:05] <kari> ok thanks a lot
[04:06] <joe234556> others are using cat5
[04:07] <dtolj> kari: this is a very good introduction :http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:Main_Page
[04:08] <bulmer> joe234556: you need to prefix your response with a nick so I dont miss the responses
[04:08] <joe234556> ok
[04:09] <joe234556> bulmer: the others are using cat5 and im getting ready to try the same vuia the unbuntu lappy
[04:09] <SmileyLap> How would i get hte source to the kernel, so i can build my own?
[04:09] <bulmer> joe234556: id do that, connect the lappy via cat 5 first and see if it works okay
[04:09] <SmileyLap> i've got make, automake, makeconf, gcc, linux-headers.
[04:10] <SmileyLap> and still i can't do it....
[04:10] <mrcheeks> SmileyLap, use synaptic
[04:10] <Dee_> I
[04:10] <SmileyLap> mrcheeks: to do what?
[04:10] <mrcheeks> extract to download the kernel source
[04:10] <joe234556> bulmer: no go on the cat5 attempt
[04:10] <SmileyLap> ok, and whats the kernel source package called?
[04:10] <mrcheeks> just type kernel-source
[04:10] <erUSUL> ubotu tell SmileyLap about kernel | SmileyLap see priv msg from ubotu
[04:10] <SmileyLap> as its not called "kernel source"....
[04:10] <mrcheeks> I don't run ubuntu
[04:10] <bulmer> joe234556: why not? no more cables? borrow one from your other pc's
[04:11] <joe234556> bulmer: it didnt work
[04:11] <mrcheeks> to type it in the description field and you'll find results with descriptions
[04:11] <SmileyLap> i dont need to really compile my own, but i need the source so i can compile something against it :?>
[04:11] <bulmer> joe234556: what happened? can you elaborate?
[04:11] <joe234556> bulmer: also, just double-checked to make sure i was actually using the ct5 and not still the wifi
[04:11] <Dee_> hi! i've a stupid question...is it possible to get super user access in gnome??to modify the etc folder??
[04:11] <Dee_> how?
[04:11] <erUSUL> SmileyLap: for that you need the linux-headers-* package
[04:11] <erUSUL> SmileyLap: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:11] <Jarhead756> can i make evolution send the message when i click send? instead of saving it in the waiting to be sent folder and then having to click send/recieve later?
[04:12] <bronze> sudo su -
[04:12] <bulmer> joe234556: you need to disable the wifi or turn it off ..maybe there is a on/off switch?
[04:12] <bronze> Dee_: sudo su -
[04:12] <mrcheeks> SmileyLap, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:12] <joe234556> bulmer: it is disabled
[04:12] <dtolj> SmileyLap: just download the tar from kernel.org
[04:12] <Dee_> many tnx bronze
[04:12] <brussel> Is there a gnome equivalent of "kdialog --inputbox "?
[04:12] <joe234556> bulmer: timeout on server and couldnt ping it
[04:12] <med> how i can play mie rythmbox
[04:12] <sureshot> hey all is simh or any charon emulators in your ubuntu repos
[04:13] <bulmer> joe234556: which server? you have a router right?
[04:13] <Lynoure> joe234556: it's an interesting problem. Sorry I was not much help. I'm curious to hear of the couse when you find it.
[04:13] <joe234556> bulmer: the server i am referring to is my home http server, and yes i am via a router on both ends
[04:14] <bulmer> joe234556: once you connect the cat5 cable ..what did you do? what commands?
[04:14] <Dee_> hmmm
[04:14] <mike1o> what is the best way to write an academic paper with linux (other than openoffice) ?
[04:14] <edgymike> Hi, quick question.  Which kernel version comes with edgy by default?
[04:14] <Ron123> Hi guys.
[04:14] <Dee_> i tried but "permission denied"
[04:14] <bronze> mike1o: why not Openoffice?
[04:14] <Ron123> I have a very serious problem right now which may have to do with ubuntu, I don't know.
[04:14] <bulmer> joe234556: i have not even discussed whats beyond the router..am a bit confused of your setup..
[04:14] <Dee_> i have to copy a file into /usr/local/games
[04:14] <joe234556> bulmer ima try rebooting the lappy
[04:14] <bronze> Dee  try sudo -su
[04:14] <Dee_> i tried
[04:14] <dtolj> Dee_: what are you tring to modify?
[04:14] <bronze> and sudo su - ?
[04:15] <Ron123> I have an e-machine desktop in my house. And my dad got on it and started updating AVG anti-virus
[04:15] <mike1o> bronze, oo's not bad but i heard that tex based apps are supposed to be better
[04:15] <Ron123> My dad did not know what Ubuntu was so he let it run and open. Then when it was booted up he put it into "hibernate"
[04:15] <bronze> mike1o: tru, but most Tex tools are not WYSIWYG
[04:15] <Dee_> i want to copy a folder
[04:15] <Lynoure> bulmer: if those extra hops on joe234556 traceroute puzzle you, I got them too till full 30 hops after reaching that ip
[04:15] <Dee_> sudo su - don't work
[04:15] <superbenny111> what desktop environment does ubuntu run on?
[04:16] <bronze> DEE, *NIX doesn't have folders. The word is "directory"
[04:16] <mike1o> bronze, i know... which means slow pace
[04:16] <whosit> dee do this gksu gedit
[04:16] <dtolj> Dee_: sudo cp -r /usr/local/games <destination>
[04:16] <Dee_> sorry
[04:16] <mike1o> bronze, i guess i'll stick with oo for now
[04:16] <bronze> Dee_:  np :)
[04:16] <bulmer> Lynoure: am discussing with him, the internal network first..just from the lappy towards the router for now
[04:16] <joe234556> i shall return in a smoke
[04:16] <Lynoure> bulmer: he said he has this problem everywhere. But ok.
[04:16] <Ron123> We cannot boot the computer anymore. Everytime we start it up we just get a blank screen. It sounds like the CD tray is trying to do something, or maybe is even messed up since its constantly making a noise and is hard to open.
[04:16] <mike1o> !italian
[04:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:17] <joe234556> the problem is limited to the lappy
[04:17] <superbenny111> what desktop environment does ubuntu run on?
[04:17] <Ron123> No commands or operating systsmes work on it, anyone able to help?
[04:17] <nemesis_> quit
[04:17] <Pelo> superbenny111,  x11, metacity, gnome
[04:17] <dtolj> superbenny111: any one you want
[04:17] <bronze> superbenny111: it doesn run "ON" any.  The yrun on it. typically gnome
[04:17] <bulmer> Ron123: you have the liveCD rom disk? boot from it, and attempt to recover
[04:17] <superbenny111> ok gnome wwas the one i was looking for
[04:18] <CapaH> What is the apt-get command to get the latest version of VIM along with all help files etc? vim comes with ubuntu but 'help' doesn't work
[04:18] <Ron123> bulmer: Yes I still have the live cdrom disc (the one that it orginally booted on) but that doesn't do anything, the computer won't load anything.
[04:18] <Ron123> It runs windows xp.
[04:18] <Ron123> well it is SUPPOSE to run xp
[04:19] <GMWeezel> Is there a RAR password cracker (bruteforce assumed) for Ubuntu?
[04:19] <Dee_> many tnx
[04:19] <bronze> GMWeezel: Violation of freenode policy
[04:19] <gekk1> does anybody know a standalone flash player which can deal with .flv files?
[04:19] <GMWeezel> bronze: How?
[04:20] <bronze> GMWeezel: see www.freenode.org
[04:20] <erUSUL> gekk1: xine and mplayer can play flv files afaik
[04:20] <Ron123> Any other help? D:
[04:20] <gekk1> erUSUL: ok, I'll try
[04:20] <dtolj> GMWeezel: John the ripper
[04:20] <sureshot> what is the lates version of ubuntu now
[04:20] <erUSUL> gekk1: maybe you'll need w32codecs
[04:20] <bulmer> Ron123: you can get to the bios right?
[04:20] <superbenny111> 6.10
[04:20] <dtolj> sureshot: Edgy Eft
[04:20] <superbenny111> i belive
[04:20] <erUSUL> ubotu tell gekk1 about w32codecs | gekk1 see priv msg from ubotu
[04:20] <simpo> hi! hi can i disallow users to reboot machine ?
[04:21] <Ron123> No I can't get anywhere. I boot my computer and it stays a black screen.
[04:21] <sureshot> ok i need to get the update cd lol
[04:21] <GMWeezel> bronze: If you mean the "unlawful activities" section, it's my file but it's been lost since last year.
[04:21] <bulmer> Ron123: make sure your bios is configured to boot on cdrom first or dvd
[04:21] <mptech> is it possible to install ubuntu with qemu (run the livecd in qemu and use the physical HD as the HD) and then boot into it natively?
[04:21] <superbenny111> he cant get into bios
[04:21] <Ron123> I can't get to my bios, so I can't do that.
[04:21] <GMWeezel> bronze: Thanks though.
[04:21] <mike1o> can i switch off windows machines in my lan from my linux box?
[04:21] <sureshot> but dtolj does your repos have simh or any charon emulators in it
[04:21] <superbenny111> Ron123: your best bet is to take the HDD out and mount it as a secondary in another machine
[04:21] <bulmer> then tuff luck
[04:22] <Ron123> I'm to computer inept to do that.
[04:22] <dtolj> sureshot: i'll check
[04:22] <sureshot> thanks dtolj
[04:22] <superbenny111> call the geek squad!
[04:22] <superbenny111> haha
[04:22] <bulmer> Ron123 pay someone to do the hardwork :)
[04:22] <superbenny111> yea
[04:22] <bronze> GMWeezel: since thechannel cannot tell the difference between some who really lost their password and some one who is lying it is freenode policy to discourage asking about such things on freenode.
[04:22] <Ron123> Haha, I'm sure I will later, want to try and get it done for free first. :
[04:23] <superbenny111> if you have any computer smart friends tell the you need to mount your hdd in another machine
[04:23] <bulmer> Ron123: experiment with screwdrivers first in one hand..hehehe
[04:23] <LordLimecat> hey ppl
[04:23] <superbenny111> hehe
[04:23] <LordLimecat> have a question....
[04:23] <superbenny111> yes
[04:23] <Ron123> Ok, well I'm out, gonna try and fix it manually.
[04:23] <superbenny111> ok
[04:23] <LordLimecat> i want to compile ubuntu....and i want to do it for AMD64
[04:23] <dtolj> sureshot: yes i have simh but not charon
[04:23] <Ron123> thanks for the help
[04:24] <superbenny111> np
[04:24] <LordLimecat> im reading the doc for make-kpkg
[04:24] <LordLimecat> and it says it should be what i see when i run dpkg-architecure
[04:24] <edgymike> Is there any easy way to revert to the originally installed kernel?
[04:24] <LordLimecat> but that shows i386
[04:24] <erUSUL> ubotu tell LordLimecat about kernel | LordLimecat see priv msg from ubotu
[04:24] <sureshot> thanks i will see if i can get the lates ubuntu then and switch back from fedora 6 thanks again dtolj
[04:24] <dtolj> sureshot: try a different repository maybe
[04:24] <dtolj> sureshot: i have dapper
[04:25] <mike1o> i'm using a 32bit ubuntu on an athlon64, is it worth switching to a 64bit version for my next upgrade?
[04:25] <superbenny111> it depends
[04:25] <superbenny111> for personal use?
[04:25] <sureshot> that is what i will have LOL i have several cds of that one  dtolj
[04:25] <gop> !gnump3d
[04:25] <fabrice> join #unbuntu.fr
[04:25] <ubotu> gnump3d: A streaming server for MP3 and OGG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.8-2 (edgy), package size 634 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[04:25] <cypher1> edgymike, was your new kernel image of the same version as the previous one ?
[04:25] <superbenny111> Mike1o: is it for personal use?
[04:25] <gop> any here used gnump3d is thier any thing better
[04:25] <edgymike> no, it's one version higher
[04:26] <mptech> is it possible to install ubuntu with qemu (run the livecd in qemu and use the physical HD as the HD) and then boot into it natively?
[04:26] <cypher1> edgymike, then you will be able to boot into it from grub
[04:26] <mike1o> superbenny111, yes but i also do serious stuff with it
[04:26] <gop> I can't seem to get gnump3d to run err load the wbpage
[04:26] <gop> on mylan
[04:26] <edgymike> I'm having all sorts of sound issues and I want to revert.  I'm assuming the updater updated my kernel because I see a .10 and a .11 version
[04:26] <gop> and the service is running
[04:26] <cypher1> edgymike, you can verify whether images are there in ls /boot
[04:26] <gop> it goes to a grawl slow
[04:26] <edgymike> 1 moment
[04:26] <fabrice> unbuntu.fr
[04:27] <edgymike> cypher1: both kernels are in /boot
[04:27] <superbenny111> mike1o: there only huge dif is better graphics...i belive it is a bit faster though...if you have enough space left for it, go for it
[04:27] <brussel> Is there a gnome equivalent of "kdialog --inputbox "?  The answer is zentity. Surely somebody must use it?!
[04:27] <tecta> i installed compiz then messed up so uninstalled it. i deleted all the files for compiz too manually... but now when i reinstall compiz it doesn't create those files any more?
[04:27] <mike1o> superbenny111, is there a gain in performance? i know 64bit has less updated reps though
[04:27] <cypher1> edgymike, most probably you will be able to boot into either one from grub.. you can confirm this by looking at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:27] <Lynoure> joe234556: You do not happen to have VPN for the lan your server is in?
[04:28] <edgymike> cypher1: oh I see it there, you are right.
[04:28] <edgymike> cypher1: thanks. :)  I'll reboot and try it out and see if that fixes my problem.
[04:28] <edgymike> bbiab
[04:28] <cypher1> edgymike, cool .. welcome
[04:28] <superbenny111> mike1o: there is a slight but noticable diferance. i have 32 on my laptop and 64 on my desktop. i do notice a bit of a diferance when i switch. there is a boost in performance is what im trying to say.
[04:29] <At0mic_P1> Did you guys know audacity is cool?
[04:29] <toresbe> Hey guys.
[04:29] <meezyfuh> hi, i am running ubuntu on my laptop. this is the second time now that i have gone away from my lappy and come back to the tan 'login' screen, and all my running programs are gone! what is happening?
[04:29] <toresbe> Is there any way to get to the changelog that Update-Manager gives you, from the command line?
[04:29] <superbenny111> if your happy with 32 and your having a lot of trouble deciding, the best thing to do is just leave it
[04:30] <mike1o> superbenny111, i'll do it when feisty comes out...  is there any loss in installing the development version and then upgrading to the stable one? or do u suggest i wait until april^?
[04:30] <toresbe> meezyfuh: Could be that your screen saver is crashing X
[04:30] <sureshot> did you get a chance to check that dtolj
[04:30] <dtolj> sureshot: well i didnt install it no
[04:30] <meezyfuh> toresbe: well, it seems that when the screensaver is on i can get back in just fine. but when i leave the computer for long periods of time (i left it on to go to sleep) it seems to just log me out. is there any way i can try to duplicate this short of not using my computer for hours?
[04:31] <superbenny111> my friend has the "unstable" on. what it means is if you screw around on it trying to get it to crash it will.
[04:31] <glatzor> toresbe: apt-listchanges
[04:31] <toresbe> glatzor: thank you
[04:31] <sureshot> i thought you were going to check another repo i am sorry i missunderstood dtolj
[04:31] <toresbe> meezyfuh: I'm sorry, I don't know.
[04:31] <johnsie999> hi, what's the terminal command to make something exectutable?
[04:31] <glatzor> toresbe: or take a look into the /usr/share/doc/PACKAGENAME/changelog.Debian.gz file
[04:31] <toresbe> glatzor: aha
[04:31] <glatzor> after installation
[04:31] <superbenny111> johnsie999: whats the extension of the original file?
[04:31] <dtolj> sureshot: well i am still trying but it might not work
[04:31] <johnsie999> .run
[04:32] <meezyfuh> toresbe: thx anyway.
[04:32] <toresbe> glatzor: yep
[04:32] <toresbe> meezyfuh: good luck
[04:32] <sureshot> what is the syntax to copy all pdf's from my destop to /dos volume the dos volume is mounted
[04:33] <dtolj> sureshot: cp ~/Desktop/*.pdf DOS
[04:33] <glatzor> meezyfuh: reduce the idle-before-sleep-time in gnome-power-manger? :) System > Admin > Power Manager
[04:33] <LordLimecat> i already know what a kernel is, and would like to try compiling one....ive read a few how-tos, and have a few quesitons not covered....
[04:34] <sureshot> dtolj the dos does not hove to be preceded with the \
[04:34] <LordLimecat> mainly among them, if i have the source, is there any reason i cannot just use make-kpkg --arch=AMD64, or will that break programs?
[04:34] <meezyfuh> glatzor: i can't find it.
[04:34] <dtolj> sureshot: full path where u mounted it
[04:34] <LordLimecat> will i need to re-edit my xorg.conf afterwards?
[04:35] <sureshot> ok
[04:35] <glatzor> meezyfuh: sorry it is in system > preferences
[04:35] <netsrot> anyone got worldofwarcraft running in wine with xgl compiz?
[04:35] <mike1o> !espaol
[04:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:35] <LordLimecat> yep
[04:35] <LordLimecat> it rocks :D
[04:35] <LordLimecat> you can rotate ingame
[04:35] <sureshot> i want everyone here to know. i like fedora 6 but there help line is nasty so i am comming back here because of the help line here has rather nice people on it
[04:36] <meezyfuh> glatzor: put display to sleep, or put computer to sleep?
[04:36] <netsrot> LordLimecat: how? my wow crashes as soon as I try to start it?
[04:36] <LordLimecat> what wine you have
[04:36] <LordLimecat> and fyi, by compiz, i meant beryl
[04:36] <gopp> hey
[04:36] <johnsie999> I'm need to find out how to chmod  /tmp/apollon-installer-0.8.1.run  using the terminal to make it exectuable
[04:36] <gopp> for some reason gnump3d is loaded
[04:36] <netsrot> the latest, but it works without compiz and xgl
[04:36] <gopp> but it times out
[04:36] <erUSUL> !info apollon
[04:36] <gopp> when I try to access it webpage
[04:36] <ubotu> apollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-5 (edgy), package size 444 kB, installed size 1668 kB
[04:36] <gopp> any idea why
[04:37] <gopp> on lan
[04:37] <erUSUL> johnsie999: apollon is in repos
[04:37] <LordLimecat> im running 6.10, got the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia, then installed beryl following a guide, and copied my WoW install over from a windows box
[04:37] <LordLimecat> then ran it o.0
[04:37] <gopp> oh k it loaded know but it takes 3 min to load
[04:37] <LordLimecat> ill show you the beryl guide i used
[04:37] <nanothief> I am trying to write a shell script that uses standard input, executes the command specified by stdin, then passes the output of that command to standard output. eg script < "date" would output the date. How can this be done?
[04:37] <glatzor> meezyfuh: it depends on what you want to change :) if your suspend doesn't work you should change it to reproduce an error
[04:37] <LordLimecat> im a bit iunclear as to the distinction between compiz and beryl, but i got the 3d desktop
[04:37] <netsrot> LordLimecat: maybe it's because you use beryl, I don't.
[04:37] <johnsie999> yep.. I know its in the repos but I want to install it from the site
[04:37] <LordLimecat> netsrot--isnt beryl a newer version of compiz?
[04:38] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[04:38] <deep> Linux pwns (:
[04:38] <netsrot> LordLimecat: I have no idea, I was reading it was more unstable.
[04:38] <LordLimecat> never got compiz to work right
[04:38] <LordLimecat> beryl works perfectly
[04:38] <LordLimecat> had tons of issues with compiz
[04:38] <LordLimecat> id go with beryl
[04:38] <opiex> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:38] <LordLimecat> you have nvidia or ati
[04:38] <zyth> Compiz is more stable than beryl.
[04:38] <netsrot> LordLimecat: thanks I will try berul
[04:38] <LordLimecat> o.0
[04:38] <zyth> beryl has more shiny stuff.
[04:38] <nanothief> LordLimecat: beryl is a branch off compiz, that pushes the boundaries
[04:38] <LordLimecat> ah
[04:38] <zyth> try em both and see what you prefer.
[04:38] <dtolj> sureshot: did you look for your package here: http://rpm.pbone.net
[04:38] <LordLimecat> well, compiz kept crashing
[04:39] <LordLimecat> or maybe the guide sucked
[04:39] <LordLimecat> regardless, the beryl guide has me running beautifully
[04:39] <zyth> !worksforme | LordLimecat
[04:39] <ubotu> LordLimecat: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:39] <netsrot> I use nvidia with binary closed drivers
[04:39] <meezyfuh> glatzor: thanks i will!
[04:39] <larson9999> i feel like a dinosaur.  i just like the plain old desk top i've grown accustomed to.  i know where stuff is.  then again, i hate when i get a new care and the cup holders aren't in the same place
[04:39] <meezyfuh> glatzor: i will just fart around with these settings and try to reproduce it. thx for your help!
[04:39] <opiex> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:40] <meezyfuh> oh yeah, is there a website that lists what laptops ubuntu works fine on, and what, if anything you need to change?
[04:40] <opiex> shjkghjnbmdfxn
[04:40] <LordLimecat> i realize about "latest=unstable"....but if there was a good compiz guide out there that didnt leave me with an always-crashing program...id use it
[04:40] <LordLimecat> beryl hasnt crashed=win
[04:40] <zyth> LordLimecat, I used gandalfn's compiz packages
[04:40] <LordLimecat> compiz has
[04:40] <sioux> hi
[04:40] <zyth> LordLimecat, they worked great.
[04:40] <LordLimecat> what guide did you use o.0
[04:41] <zyth> LordLimecat, http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/
[04:41] <Guest208371> how can i emulate (change) my ethernet mac addr?
[04:41] <LordLimecat> is it possible that the crashes are because hes using aiglx and not nvidias glx?
[04:42] <zyth> LordLimecat, nvidia's glx supports aiglx.
[04:42] <sureshot> dtolj no i will though getting ready to redo into ubuntu
[04:42] <LordLimecat> ah o.0
[04:42] <nanothief> LordLimecat: maybe you should ask on #compiz for help
[04:42] <LordLimecat> given up, beryl is workin, im through messin with it :)
[04:43] <LordLimecat> my issue is with compiling the kernel--want to know if compiling and using AMD64 is gonna hose anything else like video
[04:43] <nanothief> does anyone know how to execute a string from the terminal?
[04:43] <sinizzl> kekekekekeke
[04:44] <erUSUL> nanothief: execute a string?
[04:44] <LordLimecat> or if i can just follow one of the guides ive found, and @ make-kpkg [opts] , if i can just specify --arch=AMD64 and have everything still work?
[04:44] <nanothief> erUSUL, I'm trying to write a script that would work like: script < "fortune"
[04:45] <nanothief> and the output being a the output of fortune
[04:45] <deep> why not just $(fortune) >> script ?
[04:46] <raul_> how to remove an entry from path variable?
[04:46] <deep> Mabie thats not what you mean. :)
[04:46] <nanothief> deep: the use of fortune was just an example, it could be any command
[04:46] <cisforcojo> has anyone disabled ALPS touchpad tapping?
[04:46] <bcstv> anyone familiar with kiba dock? I am getting an error
[04:46] <bcstv> (kiba-dock:11289): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_suffix: assertion `str != NULL' failed
[04:46] <dtolj> raul_: edit .bashrc where it says PATH
[04:46] <koregaonpark> hey
[04:47] <deep> Okay, but... fortune > script, isnt that working?
[04:47] <raul_> thnx dtolj
[04:47] <joe234556> ty for your time bumer, i will work through the problem
[04:47] <joe234556> bulmer
[04:47] <koregaonpark> is it possible to run Skype Windows on Ubuntu?
[04:47] <bulmer> okay np
[04:47] <deep> koregaonpark, there is a linuxversion of skype?
[04:47] <LordLimecat> skype is available for ubuntu isnt it?
[04:47] <k3nt> xchat eh?.... i like gaim more
[04:47] <koregaonpark> The problem is, the Linux version of Skype doesn't have video... and many people I'm trying to convert use it daily to talk to their kids in other countries.
[04:47] <Shaffox> !nvidia
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <superkirbyartist> A friend of mine would like to switch to Ubuntu.  The only thing that stops him is Mozilla Thunderbird settings.  Can I transfer them from Windows to Linux?
[04:48] <glatzor> koregaonpark: no chance.
[04:48] <koregaonpark> deep, LordLimecat, Skype Linux does not have video?
[04:48] <olimpico> I'm having problems with the xine embedded pluggin on Firefox, it doesn't really work, can someone give me some recomendations?
[04:48] <nanothief> deep: i dont think i explained it well. The script should take a string from standard input, execute that string, then put the result of that string to standard output
[04:48] <glatzor> koregaonpark: try to convince them to use a sip based client like ekiga :)
[04:48] <koregaonpark> glatzor, no chance at all? I thought you could run windows apps with wine.
[04:48] <deep> koregaonpark, O.o i thought so, mabie i'm wrong.
[04:48] <LordLimecat> korega, have you tried wine?
[04:48] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, I have not.
[04:49] <LordLimecat> dunno if itll work
[04:49] <bulmer> glatzor: hows the quality of that? am just curious. and it can make calls to land lines?
[04:49] <LordLimecat> but wines a good thing to have IMO
[04:49] <koregaonpark> glatzor, they want Skype, and aren't savvy enough to use anything else, and their families use Skype too.
[04:49] <deep> nanothief, ah, thats out of my knowledge. But as far as i know, $("string") should work. Mabie i'm wrong. (:
[04:49] <LordLimecat> korega--ill try it for you, since i have wine installed o.0
[04:50] <LordLimecat> brb
[04:50] <netsrot> LordLimecat: hehe my x crashed =)
[04:50] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, thanks!
[04:50] <netsrot> and aixgl doesn't work with nvidia cards right?
[04:50] <glatzor> koregaonpark: you can run some apps with wine, but not all. perhaps since have changed since I tried it the last time.
[04:50] <koregaonpark> Why is Skype so sucky with its Linux support? I'm in half a mind to diss them.
[04:50] <koregaonpark> glatzor, ah okay.
[04:50] <dtolj> nanothief: maybe pass the string as a parameter
[04:50] <cisforcojo> hey anyone here disabled ALPS touchpad tapping?
[04:51] <deep> netsrot, ofc it does. (: I'm runinng it.
[04:51] <glatzor> bulmer: the quility depends on your internet connection.
[04:51] <deep> netsrot, running*
[04:51] <dtolj> nanothief: and print it out to stdout
[04:51] <glatzor> bulmer: there are several sip communication providers like sipgate
[04:51] <glatzor> bulmer: it is just the normal voip
[04:52] <nanothief> deep, you were right, with the $(xxx) thing, my script just contained echo  $($1) and it worked
[04:52] <armenb> hi, i'm having a stupid problem with ubuntu
[04:52] <bulmer> glatzor okay, i need to try and test one, to sastisy my curiosity
[04:52] <armenb> my usb mouse doesn't work
[04:52] <netsrot> deep: with compiz?
[04:52] <armenb> er, usb mouse doesn't work in x.
[04:52] <armenb> it shows up as a usb device in /proc/bus/usb/devices
[04:52] <deep> netsrot, well, with beryl, almoast the same thing though (:
[04:52] <Cogeno> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 6.10 (Upgraded from 6.06 as my 6.10 disk doesn't work anymore). When I go to my temrinal, it's flashing red, green, and yellow colors at me
[04:52] <LordLimecat> korega, how long does this splash screen normally take?
[04:53] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, what?
[04:53] <K3nto> what is korega trying to run
[04:53] <glatzor> koregaonpark: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4250
[04:53] <armenb> X even configures /dev/input/mice
[04:53] <cisforcojo> do none of you use laptops!?
[04:53] <K3nto> i do
[04:53] <koregaonpark> cisforcojo, I do. It runs Mac OS X.
[04:53] <LordLimecat> how long does the skype splash screen normally take
[04:53] <cisforcojo> k3nto: ubuntu?
[04:54] <glatzor> bulmer: but voip is not the best way of communication :)
[04:54] <K3nto> yep
[04:54] <LordLimecat> its been goin for a while
[04:54] <massiC> cisforcojo: i run an Armada 700 cmpq
[04:54] <cisforcojo> what kinda touchpad?
[04:54] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, couple of secs.
[04:54] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, odd.
[04:54] <netsrot> deep: I tried using aixgl with compiz, but didn't get any decor... and then I was reading nvidia cards wasnt suported with aixgl so I tried xgl with compiz
[04:54] <armenb> any ideas?
[04:54] <LordLimecat> :( not sure this will work
[04:54] <cisforcojo> have anyof you disabled tapping?
[04:54] <bulmer> glatzor: what do you consider is the best way? :)
[04:54] <sinizzl> nvidia doesn't xgl anyways
[04:54] <koregaonpark> Damn... Skype, you suck! And so does Joost.
[04:54] <meezyfuh> ok, it looks like if my laptop tries to suspend, x crashes. is there any way to fix this, or do i have to just disable the power-saving settings?
[04:54] <deep> netsrot, hmm, try beryl? beryl > compis ;)
[04:54] <glatzor> bulmer: a stupid oldschool telephone
[04:54] <koregaonpark> And Kazaa was full of spyware.
[04:54] <LordLimecat> korega--
[04:55] <deep> netsrot, compiz*
[04:55] <LordLimecat> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=36
[04:55] <johnsie999> joost? you got that?
[04:55] <LordLimecat> apparently theyre working on it?
[04:55] <glatzor> bulmer: voip only adds a lot of possible error sources :)
[04:55] <koregaonpark> johnsie999, yeah on OS X.
[04:55] <meezyfuh> glatzor: may i pm?
[04:55] <johnsie999> have you got any invites?
[04:55] <glatzor> bulmer: and there is always the question, does the other understand me?
[04:55] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, Linux has a larger market share than Mac OS X, and they still haven't released a Skype version that works with video.
[04:55] <koregaonpark> johnsie999, not sure.
[04:56] <armenb> does anyone here have good experience debugging usb mice and X?
[04:56] <LordLimecat> check the link i sent
[04:56] <glatzor> meezyfuh: If you don't expect me to respond under every circumstances :)
[04:56] <armenb> my configuration used to work, but now seems to not work.
[04:56] <LordLimecat> forum named "skype video beta"
[04:56] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat... loading.
[04:56] <meezyfuh> glatzor: i wouldn't dream of it! :>
[04:56] <cisforcojo> armenb: maybe
[04:56] <bulmer> glatzor: uhuh
[04:57] <koregaonpark> LordLimecat, I clicked the link.
[04:57] <johnsie999> Skype linux development is usually very slow o non-existent :-(
[04:57] <LordLimecat> anyone have like....3 mins they can spare to help me with a few kernel compile questions
[04:57] <edgymike> Hi, I think I figured out what happened to my sound.  I think I updated to the .11 kernel using the ubuntu installer.  The modules I need for the sound card... I see them in the .10 module directory, but they don't exist in the .11 directory
[04:57] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: ask
[04:57] <LordLimecat> alright....i have the source, the required parts, etc
[04:57] <idefix> so whenever you startup linux it executes the files in the bin dir?
[04:57] <LordLimecat> know how to use terminal decently
[04:57] <gopp> hey
[04:57] <LordLimecat> i want to compile for my amd64
[04:57] <gopp> what a good gui program to manage
[04:57] <gopp> samba
[04:57] <LordLimecat> im currently running the i386
[04:57] <bulmer> edgymike: then look for it in .10 ?
[04:57] <gopp> swat don't seem that great
[04:57] <LordLimecat> first, is this gonna hose anything?
[04:57] <LordLimecat> like video drivers?
[04:57] <LordLimecat> or games?
[04:57] <iosdfjdosi> hello
[04:58] <bulmer> LordLimecat: no, unless you install them
[04:58] <armenb> cisforcojo - i have a /dev/input/mice device, my logitech mouse appears under /proc/bus/usb/devices, and my Xorg.0.log shows no errors in configuring /dev/input/mice.
[04:58] <LordLimecat> theyre already installed
[04:58] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: the drivers will have to be recompiled
[04:58] <armenb> so why wont my mouse work?
[04:58] <edgymike> bulmer: I see it in .10, not in .11.  How do I get them in the .11 kernel? just run the alsa-source drivers?
[04:58] <bulmer> edgymike: i supposed so, try it
[04:58] <LordLimecat> so ill have to edit my xorg and reinstall nvidia....will that hose beryl as well?
[04:58] <gopp> what a good gui program to manage samba hmm sway is that the only option hmm
[04:59] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: you will have to reinstall the nvidia driver
[04:59] <LordLimecat> alright.....itll keep the old kernels, tho, right?
[04:59] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: yes
[05:00] <iosdfjdosi> i installed vmware tools in ubuntu edgy, but i can't get any hardware accel
[05:00] <iosdfjdosi> someone know why?
[05:00] <LordLimecat> .....sweet...and in addition to the general revision options, i would just use --arch=AMD64?
[05:01] <Yeldarb> does anyone know sign language?
[05:01] <LordLimecat> korega--did it load?
[05:02] <dimeotane> any suggestions for which is the best RSS news aggrigator for ubuntu?
[05:02] <bulmer> erUSUL: would he not need to rerun some kind of re-linking to old kernel to get it back in the old ways?
[05:02] <LordLimecat> just check forums.skype.com
[05:02] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: no, you will have to use make menuconfig o make xconfig
[05:02] <Steve^> How can I make the Music Player button on my keyboard open amarok rather than Rythmbox?
[05:02] <dimeotane> Yeldarb: I know the sign for "how are you" and "fine"  oh and hitler
[05:02] <erUSUL> !kernel
[05:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:02] <LordLimecat> alright
[05:02] <erUSUL> ubotu tell LordLimecat about kernel | LordLimecat see priv msg from ubotu
[05:02] <Yeldarb> dimeotane: haha, helpful :)
[05:02] <LordLimecat> thanks
[05:02] <LordLimecat> :)
[05:02] <dimeotane> =) np
[05:02] <K3nto> could an experienced Wine user help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2237213#post2237213
[05:04] <K3nto> or anybody for that matter
[05:04] <LordLimecat> i have a LITTLE wine exp, and my wow works o.0
[05:04] <LordLimecat> but im running 6.10 so maybe its different
[05:04] <LordLimecat> ubuntu 6.10 i mean
[05:04] <LordLimecat> what version of wine are you using
[05:04] <dimeotane> I always find that wine is just "drag drop and double click" if it works yay if it doesn't.. well that's wine
[05:05] <marek> marek
[05:05] <K3nto> LordLimecat: im running edgy too
[05:05] <LordLimecat> i know wine DOES do wow, and for me, its flawless
[05:05] <K3nto> the latest wine 1 sec
[05:05] <LordLimecat> alright, lemme send you the guide i followed
[05:05] <K3nto> LordLimecat: 0.9.31
[05:05] <cody> Hi.
[05:05] <dimeotane> no one has a good RSS news program ?
[05:06] <cody> I'm trying to update to Feisty on my second machine, but update-manager isn't giving me an option to do so.
[05:06] <K3nto> check add/remove programs
[05:06] <darkcommon> dimeotane Liferea
[05:06] <gopp> what a good samba gui config program
[05:06] <LordLimecat> i have 9.31 too
[05:06] <darkcommon> gopp SWAT
[05:06] <K3nto> cody: isnt it coming out in april
[05:06] <gopp> I used swat but it seem not so good
[05:06] <cody> I just upgraded it to Edgy last night, and soon after that update-manager was listing the option.
[05:06] <edgymike> Ohh I am getting an error compiling the alsa drivers
[05:06] <cody> K3nto: Okay, I mean.. I want to upgrade it to the Feisty devel.  I'm using -d for update-manager.
[05:06] <dimeotane> aKregator is listed but for KDE...I'll try liferea thx darkcommon
[05:06] <Shaffox> How can I install the java applet ?? It's not working with FF.
[05:07] <darkcommon> Shaffox automatixw3
[05:07] <darkcommon> Shaffox automatix2
[05:07] <josip> if I burn the image ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64 to a DVD will it be able to boot ?
[05:07] <lvthn> Does the linksys WMP54GS wireless card work under ubuntu??
[05:07] <cody> K3nto: Last night it was saying something about an authentication problem, so I reset the machine.  But now it won't give me the option to upgrade to Feisty at all.
[05:07] <cassio> hello everybody! I'm using kubuntu with dapper drake right now, but i would like to upgrade it to Edgy... is it really better, in terms of performance?
[05:07] <K3nto> hmm
[05:07] <dimeotane> lvthn: might need to use ndiswrapper to get the driver working
[05:07] <dignick> Hello everyone...I've got a system with two hard drives installed - primary contains windows, and secondary for ubuntu.  Just installed ubuntu and installed grub to the master boot record, but now grub has failed to load - so i'm stuck with a dead system.  what should I do?
[05:07] <K3nto> cody: i dont know, im staying with edgy
[05:08] <Shaffox> darkcommon, install both?
[05:08] <bulmer> Shaffox: you mean a plug-in for ff?
[05:08] <darkcommon> no only Automatix2
[05:08] <K3nto> hey darkcommon
[05:08] <K3nto> pm
[05:08] <cassio> well, not too much drive space...
[05:08] <darkcommon> but you need other repositorie
[05:08] <Wulong> How can I install ubuntu server without burning any image on disk? like network install or so.
[05:08] <darkcommon> hey K3nto!!
[05:08] <dimeotane> dignick: boot with the live CD to access the system for hacking
[05:08] <LordLimecat> k3nto
[05:08] <LordLimecat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[05:08] <LordLimecat> i just did everythiun there
[05:08] <dignick> live cd won't work - i have a matrox card and it doesn't like it
[05:08] <LordLimecat> and it worked
[05:08] <cody> If I run "update-manager -d --dist-upgrade" then it thinks it's trying to upgrade to 6.10, but that's what it's already running.
[05:08] <tovella> gopp: I found something call "GSAMBAD", though i've never used it.
[05:08] <Shaffox> bulmer, yeah, i need a plugin for using java
[05:09] <bulmer> Wulong: you go the idea, via pxe
[05:09] <LordLimecat> did you do any configuring of wine?
[05:09] <gopp> oh
[05:09] <LordLimecat> and where did you get your nvidia drivers?
[05:09] <bulmer> Shaffox: which plugin? btw you look into about:plugins in ff?
[05:09] <K3nto> !nvidia
[05:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <lvthn> Is ubuntu good for beginners or should I choose another distro?
[05:09] <K3nto> there
[05:09] <rbil> dignick: which matrox card do u have?
[05:09] <dimeotane> dignick: maybe your drive mount locations weren't configured correctly?  (which one was /dev/hda and so on?)
[05:09] <K3nto> and configuring for wine? not really
[05:09] <dignick> g400 i think it is
[05:09] <darkcommon> cody if you want to install Edgy without delete other old distro, you need to change the sources.list file to the sources.list file of an Edgy Distro an run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:10] <cassio> lvthn, ubuntu is the best one for begginers, I think
[05:10] <lvthn> ok
[05:10] <darkcommon> cassio or Kubuntu, or Xubuntu :P
[05:10] <rbil> dignick: that is an old faithful video card with Linux. In my experience, never a problem with that card as oss drivers support it well
[05:10] <cassio> lvthn, truly... i've use suse, fedora, slackware and debian... but ubuntu is easier
[05:10] <lvthn> ok
[05:10] <rbil> dignick: so I have a hard time believing your problem is related to the video card
[05:10] <dignick> dimeotane: i'm not sure.  i just chose the slave drive and let it do its thing
[05:10] <tovella> lvthn: you know this is the wrong place to ask that... everyone here (including me) will tell you ubuntu is great for almost everone.
[05:10] <cassio> darkcommon, yes... in fact, i'm running kununtu myself
[05:11] <Wulong> bulmer: what is pxe? I need something to boot of from.
[05:11] <eobanb> lvthn, i agree with cassio
[05:11] <lvthn> I used fedora Core 2 or 3 at the time an managed to get my wireless to work
[05:11] <bulmer> Wulong: thats the network boot thing
[05:11] <Shaffox> bulmer, in FF i get 'additional plugins are required to view all media' and the plugin I need is 'Java Runtime Environment'
[05:11] <lvthn> i must of done something worki while trying to get ndiswrapper do work
[05:11] <dignick> rbil: it boots fine, but the screen is a mess - i can't see anything with the crt its connected to.  got a p650 too, with a flat panel, and that doesnt work either
[05:12] <darkcommon> Shaffox install Automatix2 and install JRE
[05:12] <bulmer> Shaffox: i dont know  the details off hand, there are tutorials on how to add java jre to ubuntu, you need to google
[05:12] <cassio> everybody! I wanna know from those who are using edgy if it runs faster than dapper drake...
[05:12] <darkcommon> Shaffox or Swiftfox Browser + Swiftfox Plugins
[05:12] <eobanb> !automatix
[05:12] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:12] <rbil> dignick: then your problem is your xorg.conf file.
[05:12] <cassio> I'm running Eclipse for Java development, but I think it's too slow here...
[05:12] <gopp> cassio how about netbeans
[05:12] <cassio> i know 512 mb ram is not that much but....
[05:12] <dignick> if i use the alternate install, when it boots it works fine
[05:13] <eobanb> cassio, the saddest thing is, it totally used to be :)
[05:13] <tovella> Shaffox: you don't need automatix for jre.  you could just install sun-java5-jre
[05:13] <dignick> anyhow, i'm not too bothered as i'm trying to install ubuntu server
[05:13] <dignick> i am bothered that i've lost access to windows though
[05:13] <tovella> when Sun open-sourced java, it ended up in the ubuntu repositories.
[05:13] <LordLimecat> k3nt
[05:13] <bulmer> Shaffox: and dont forget to run update-alternatives
[05:14] <cassio> gopp, I didn't tried NetBeans, but I think I can't use it because I'm using lots of Eclipse plugin in my projects right now...
[05:14] <Shaffox> bulmer, how,
[05:14] <cassio> eobanb, sorry?
[05:14] <eobanb> cassio, 512 MB used to be enough for everything.
[05:14] <bulmer> Shaffox man update-alternatives
[05:14] <cassio> yes, but Eclipse is too heavy weight I think...
[05:15] <brussel> You really need 2GBs
[05:15] <cassio> In Windows it runs ok...
[05:15] <cassio> but i don't loke windows
[05:15] <bulmer> cassio:  what are you trying to do? develop java or run the app server?
[05:15] <johnsie999> I like Windows# drivers
[05:15] <brussel> just run top and see how much memory you are using, i did and went out and bought 2 more GBs
[05:15] <dignick> so anyone, what should i try to restore either the windows bootloader or get grub working?
[05:15] <cassio> brussel, lucky guy... heheheh
[05:16] <cassio> i'm running on my new notebook
[05:16] <eobanb> !grub
[05:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:16] <Wulong> bulmer: with this tool I can chose what image I'd like to boot?
[05:16] <lukaswayne9> What is currently the best way to install software on an ubuntu machine with no internet connection?  Copying a deb is a PITA because of missing dependencies...
[05:16] <brussel> cassio: Memory is cheap, each GB only cost $70 at compusa
[05:16] <tovella> Shaffox: sun-java6-jre is in the repositories, as well (as least for edgy & feisty).
[05:16] <cassio> but I can't open it to put more RAM, its new
[05:16] <bulmer> Wulong: as long as you have the images in the tftp server
[05:16] <LordLimecat> k3nto, have you ever been able to run WoW
[05:16] <LordLimecat> or has this occured from the start
[05:16] <iosdfjdosi> can I install ubuntu in a usb pen drive and have it detect different hardware from different pcs it's plugged into?
[05:16] <cassio> Here its too expensive, i'm from Brazil :)
[05:17] <rbil> dignick: if you do this ...  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver      ... does it mention "mga"?
[05:17] <eobanb> iosdfjdosi, it simply depends on the hardware.
[05:17] <iosdfjdosi> ah ok
[05:17] <amimusa> hello all, trying to upgrade i get this error: found error processing:
[05:17] <amimusa>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-i18n-es_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:17] <amimusa> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:17] <eobanb> iosdfjdosi, some motherboards can boot from USB; others cannot.
[05:17] <bulmer> tovella: you're the same guy in java channel right?
[05:17] <tovella> iosdfjdosi: yes, i've done it.  it's not very straight-forward, though.
[05:17] <amimusa> any help please ?
[05:17] <brussel> cassio: ahhh, i don't know anything about Brazil.
[05:17] <tovella> bulmer: nope.
[05:17] <cassio> it's strange, because Eclipse 3.1 runs quite ok, but 3.2 is driving me crazy, toooo slow
[05:17] <iosdfjdosi> and how do i install it in the first place?  do i need to burn a image file into a CD and boot from it first?
[05:18] <bullgard2> I obtained an "script error exit status 32". I do not much know about bash programming. Where can I find a list explaining the meaning of this return code?
[05:18] <bulmer> cassio:  what are you trying to do? develop java or run the app server?
[05:18] <cassio> brussel, ok, nevermind!
[05:18] <gopp> !server
[05:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[05:18] <cassio> bulmer, develop
[05:18] <cassio> i work with that...
[05:18] <Jowi> lukaswayne9, apt-get -d. this will download all the dependencies as well. then copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:18] <fromvega> Hello, I have setup a squid proxy in my network to control internet access, the problem is that if someone configures the client to use an OpenProxy for instance it works. How can I avoid that?
[05:18] <bulmer> cassio: then whats the worries of slowness? unless you're running the apps server on same machine
[05:19] <eobanb> bullgard2, keep in mind that the default sh in ubuntu is not bash, but dash
[05:19] <cassio> bulmer, it because you haven't see it...
[05:19] <Shaffox> the both are installed, and still FF says  I'm missing the plugin
[05:19] <eobanb> bullgard2, as of edgy (or maybe dapper) anyway
[05:19] <bulmer> cassio: why not run tomcat in a server and just do your development in laptop?
[05:19] <iosdfjdosi> how do i install it to a usb drive?
[05:19] <iosdfjdosi> pen drive?
[05:19] <eobanb> !usbdrive
[05:19] <cassio> I can't even use code completion with Eclipse 3.2
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <iosdfjdosi> !usbdrive
[05:19] <lukaswayne9> Jowi: alright.. Will that grab dependencies that are already installed on the internet machine, but are not in main already?
[05:19] <K3nto> LordLimecat: where did you find your config.WTF file
[05:19] <bulmer> cassio: vim not enuff?  :)
[05:20] <LordLimecat> config.wtf?  thats located in the wow folder/wtf
[05:20] <erik_> hello
[05:20] <eobanb> iosdfjdosi, http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=installing+ubuntu+to+usb+drive&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[05:20] <LordLimecat> think theres one in the subfolders for your accounts, too
[05:20] <bulmer> cassio: you can turn off the app server running on eclipse noh?
[05:20] <eobanb> iosdfjdosi, there are countless articles about this subject
[05:20] <gopp> iosdfjdosi easy
[05:20] <cassio> bulmer, nope... I'm using lots of plugins for Eclipse... it helps me a lot, its more productive... I use vim just to program C or Perl
[05:20] <gopp> iosdfjdosi go to pendrivelinux.com
[05:20] <iosdfjdosi> ok
[05:20] <sureshot> hey dtolj i guess i cant install ubuntu i cant find any of my 6.06 so i am stuck
[05:20] <gopp> iosdfjdosi go to www.pendrivelinux.com
[05:20] <erik_> I've a question about hardware recognition on the Desktop and Server version of Edgy
[05:20] <Jowi> lukaswayne9, not sure actually....
[05:21] <tovella> Shaffox: is firefox telling you the java plugin is missing, or some other plugin?
[05:21] <LordLimecat> K3nto: has this issue always occured?
[05:21] <K3nto> yes
[05:21] <LordLimecat> where did you get your wow install
[05:21] <LordLimecat> from a windows box?
[05:21] <LordLimecat> or fresh install
[05:21] <bulmer> cassio: but plug-ins only works after you have it running on the app server noh?
[05:21] <K3nto> fresh
[05:21] <cassio> bulmer, if fact app server in Eclipse runs as a plugin for Tomcat... it's not native, just a bridge for the installed server
[05:21] <LordLimecat> ...for lack of anythin better to do.....
[05:21] <LordLimecat> try reinstalling video drivers?
[05:21] <cassio> bulmer, nope, they run during development
[05:21] <erik_> My LANCOM Airlancer MCMCIA card is automatically recognised om my desktop version of Edgy but not on my server installation of Edgy. What is going wrong?
[05:21] <K3nto> hold on
[05:21] <LordLimecat> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[05:21] <gopp> iosdfjdosi http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/
[05:21] <cassio> like plugins for unit tests
[05:21] <LordLimecat> i followed the instructions there
[05:21] <K3nto> LordLimecat: thers no config.WTF
[05:21] <bulmer> cassio oh okay.
[05:22] <LordLimecat> .....want me to send mine?
[05:22] <LordLimecat> it should have general settings
[05:22] <shmeel> i have a problem with my internet connection. it's wireless, xchat, gmail checker, and some internet sites work on ubuntu edgy, but gaim and stuff like google news/images don't. but everything works fine on my virtual computer which i'm running in edgy. any ideas?
[05:22] <LordLimecat> but i THINK its auto created anyways o.0
[05:22] <eobanb> erik_, the server install doesnt include the gnome-desktop metapackage, and therefore doesnt include network-manager and a few other things.
[05:22] <K3nto> LordLimecat: pleas :)
[05:22] <Shaffox> tovella, a yellow bar with 'additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page'
[05:22] <erik_> eobanb: is it the network-manager that sees and configures the network cards?
[05:23] <tovella> Shaffox: what page?
[05:23] <LordLimecat> SET locale "enUS"
[05:23] <LordLimecat> SET hwDetect "0"
[05:23] <LordLimecat> SET gxColorBits "24"
[05:23] <LordLimecat> SET gxDepthBits "24"
[05:23] <LordLimecat> SET gxResolution "1280x1024"
[05:23] <eobanb> !paste
[05:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:23] <Shaffox> tovella, http://www.net-force.nl/challenge/level201/
[05:23] <cassio> is there the possibility of anything failing at my laptop if i upgrade to Edgy?
[05:23] <eobanb> erik_, why are you installing -server on a laptop
[05:23] <erik_> eobanb: MythTV
[05:23] <eobanb> cassio, it's *possible*
[05:23] <cassio> like, some programs not working right and so on ?
[05:23] <cassio> eobanb, ohh nooo
[05:24] <cassio> eobanb, truly?
[05:24] <K3nto> LordLimecat: oh i though you were going to dcc it
[05:24] <erik_> eobanb: I'm going to configure the card from the command line but first it will have to show up as a device
[05:24] <michelmichel> hi there all - is there anyone here that can help with installing the infamous artec t1 an2235chip?
[05:24] <LordLimecat> back
[05:24] <eobanb> cassio, anything is possible.  if the machine works perfectly well as is, and it's important for work, then stick with what you have.
[05:24] <LordLimecat> o.0
[05:24] <erik_> eobanb: when is type dmesg on the desktop I get a lot of line concerning the card
[05:24] <LordLimecat> whats easiest way to send short of copy paste
[05:24] <erik_> eobanb: Dmesg om the servers just tells me that a card is inserted
[05:25] <cassio> eobanb, I  agree with you. Im just trying to change it to see if Eclipse will run better in my machine with Edgy...
[05:25] <eobanb> erik_, yes, okay, i understand
[05:25] <LordLimecat> k3nto, you there?
[05:25] <eobanb> erik_, i dont know the precise solution to your problem.  does it show up in ifconfig ?
[05:25] <michelmichel> dvb usb card - artec t1 with the an2235 chip.... anyone?
[05:25] <erik_> eobanb: no
[05:26] <LordLimecat> K3nto: are you there?
[05:26] <LordLimecat> i have to leave in like 2 minutes
[05:26] <eobanb> !wireless
[05:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:26] <tovella> Shaffox: that pages does indeed appear to include a java applet.  perhaps you should double check to see what firefox says.  enter this in your web address bar: "about:plugins"
[05:26] <K3nto> LordLimecat: yes sorry
[05:26] <LordLimecat> lol
[05:26] <K3nto> i made a config.wtf file
[05:26] <erik_> eobanb: thanks, I'll have a look at the documentation
[05:26] <LordLimecat> alright, can you message me on another IM? i cant send thru irc
[05:27] <eobanb> michelmichel, sorry, i'm unfamiliar with that particular card.  what does it do?
[05:27] <LordLimecat> and i dont wanna flood
[05:27] <eobanb> !paste > LordLimecat
[05:27] <LordLimecat> i have aim, msn, icq
[05:27] <shmeel> i have a problem with my internet connection. it's wireless, xchat, gmail checker, and some internet sites work on ubuntu edgy, but gaim and stuff like google news/images don't. but everything works fine on my virtual computer which i'm running in edgy. any ideas?
[05:27] <LordLimecat> !paste
[05:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:27] <eobanb> shmeel, virtual computer?
[05:27] <eobanb> LordLimecat, ???
[05:28] <shmeel> running windows XP on vmware server
[05:28] <LordLimecat> woot
[05:28] <shmeel> and all the internet stuff works perfect
[05:28] <michelmichel> eobanb: artec t1 is a usb dvb card
[05:28] <LordLimecat> k3nto
[05:28] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8410/
[05:28] <LordLimecat> be sure to edit the realm and name
[05:28] <LordLimecat> my script memory is also pretty high
[05:28] <LordLimecat> 98 megs
[05:28] <eobanb> michelmichel, ohh, i misread, i thought you said dvd earlier.
[05:28] <LordLimecat> may want to edit that
[05:28] <K3nto> okay thanks
[05:28] <LordLimecat> finally, allmy graphics details are pretty high
[05:28] <eobanb> michelmichel, it might just work as a v4l interface
[05:28] <LordLimecat> they cannot be changed ingame
[05:29] <LordLimecat> you have to edit the wtf
[05:29] <K3nto> i have 2gb ram
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> anyone know how I can make my desktop, two separate work spaces, instead of one huge desktop on a dual monitor system?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8404/  there is my xorg.conf
[05:29] <LordLimecat> oh, and theres a small patch in it--use the home and end keys ingame for a suprise
[05:29] <LordLimecat> super zoom out
[05:29] <LordLimecat> its legal too
[05:29] <LordLimecat> :D
[05:29] <K3nto> cool
[05:29] <LordLimecat> max view distance has  been pumped up--you can see all of darkshire with the end key
[05:30] <shmeel> !wireless
[05:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:30] <michelmichel> i think it is a much more compliacted issue - been spending days on getting it working on various distros and google is full with people trying to get it work...
[05:30] <eobanb> michelmichel, ah, okay.  has there been any confirmed success?
[05:30] <michelmichel> i need to find someone who actually got it working on ubuntu
[05:31] <michelmichel> linuxtv has some instructions that seems a bit dated, ubuntu forums has some but they didnt work for me
[05:31] <K3nto> WOOOHOOOOO
[05:31] <LordLimecat> WOOT
[05:31] <K3nto> thanks limecat
[05:31] <LordLimecat> you have beryl?
[05:31] <LordLimecat> or compiz?
[05:31] <K3nto> no
[05:31] <K3nto> what are those
[05:31] <LordLimecat> its even better with them
[05:31] <K3nto> !beryl
[05:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:31] <LordLimecat> you can rotate the desktop while its running
[05:31] <LordLimecat> lemme show you some screenies
[05:31] <playah0> out of interest
[05:31] <eobanb> michelmichel, unfortunately i live in the US where we we use ATSC instead of DVB, so i can't really help you too much, michelmichel, but do know that if anyone has gotten it to work, then it should be possible to get it working on ubuntu.
[05:32] <K3nto> !compiz
[05:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:32] <LordLimecat> http://www.flickr.com/photos/7167734@N03/
[05:32] <LordLimecat> check it
[05:32] <eobanb> LordLimecat, we've all seen beryl
[05:32] <LordLimecat> with wow?
[05:32] <sureshot> hey what is on the 6.10 dvd
[05:32] <michelmichel> that what i'm here for...:)
[05:32] <LordLimecat> those are beryl with WoW pics
[05:32] <LordLimecat> its a sight to behold--ima try running 2 accounts at once with it
[05:32] <Wuilliam> !Beryl LoRez
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl lorez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <K3nto> holy mother!!!
[05:32] <K3nto> !beryl
[05:32] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <LordLimecat> indeed
[05:33] <eobanb> can we please stop this...
[05:33] <Wuilliam> LoRez: !beryl
[05:33] <LordLimecat> k3nto, you have aim?
[05:33] <eobanb> take this to #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <K3nto> msn
[05:33] <LordLimecat> viper2040_@hotmail.com
[05:33] <LordLimecat> msg me
[05:34] <crdlb_> LordLimecat, you know irc has PM right?
[05:34] <LordLimecat> cant do it till i register
[05:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> limecat is not pleased
[05:34] <LordLimecat> and being an irc noob who rarely uses it
[05:34] <LordLimecat> indeed
[05:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> lol
[05:34] <crdlb_> LordLimecat, that takes like 2 seconds
[05:34] <LordLimecat> i dont know how nor care to register
[05:34] <LordLimecat> well/
[05:34] <LordLimecat> if someone wants to paste the command
[05:34] <eobanb>  /msg nickserv help , LordLimecat
[05:34] <LordLimecat> lol
[05:35] <LordLimecat> j
[05:35] <LordLimecat> k
[05:35] <cables> LordLimecat, crdlb, you can just join a nonexistent channel and it will create it for you.
[05:35] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone here know a way to automount partitions temporarly?
[05:35] <jacob333> How do i uninstall beryl
[05:35] <LordLimecat> that i kno about, but i rarely use irc, so msn is more ideal
[05:35] <eobanb> jacob333, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:35] <tovella> I have installed many computers for families who have children of multiple age groups.  I need a way for them to automatically logout from an x-session.
[05:35] <jacob333> ok
[05:35] <jacob333> thnks
[05:35] <quaal> anyone here use jackfield with ubuntu/beryl ?
[05:35] <eobanb> LordLimecat, if you dont have some pressing question, then please ask it; otherwise this is not a place to discuss irc in general or freenode policies
[05:36] <cornell> Ok, question...  I've an application, KeePassX, when one hits ctl-v, it provides text to the most window that had previous focus, and then it minimizes.  The problem is that there's no icon, nothing on the taskbar or desktop or anywhere else, I can find.  If I do ps aux|egrep keep, it shows up, so it's running.  But how do I unminimize it.  Or how do I get it to minimize to an icon?  This is on an AMD64 with Ubuntu.
[05:36] <oem> what media player can i use to listen to my mp3's ?
[05:36] <eobanb> !mp3
[05:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:36] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and for godsakes limcat dont say you like automatix or autopackage... it will get u banned LOL
[05:36] <Jowi> !players | oem
[05:36] <ubotu> oem: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:36] <eobanb> Lord_Maynoth_42, what do you mean by temporarily
[05:37] <LordLimecat> ive used automatix, its a good way to learn to fix stuff
[05:37] <K3nto> LordLimecat: whats ur screen name i cant find it
[05:37] <Lord_Maynoth_42> use xmms for music and vlc for all video formats
[05:37] <LordLimecat> viper2040 underscore
[05:37] <Lord_Maynoth_42> automatix installs vlc
[05:37] <LordLimecat> and vlc ownz?
[05:37] <LordLimecat> k3nto, whats yours
[05:37] <Lord_Maynoth_42> vlc rules for all video formats
[05:37] <K3nto> Kent
[05:37] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I just wish they would update the repos to the current version
[05:38] <K3nto> lol
[05:38] <LordLimecat> hurry, i have to go and we're spamming :(
[05:38] <cisforcojo> anyone good with installing new iconsets?
[05:38] <_pirinto_> I wish to make a complete backup of / which resides on /dev/hda, to an USB-attached IDE Harddrive. I know that I might have to boot from a LIVECD to do that. But which method do you find to be the easiest and less painful?
[05:38] <K3nto> use PM then
[05:38] <kent> K3nto: hello there.
[05:38] <LordLimecat> cant, nickserv isnt responding
[05:38] <ryanakca> Where can I find just the circle part of the Ubuntu logo, on a transparent background?
[05:38] <eobanb> LordLimecat, seems fine to me
[05:38] <K3nto> kent: hey
[05:39] <eobanb> ryanakca, you could try doing it yourself in gimp
[05:39] <crdlb_> LordLimecat, try NickServ
[05:39] <kent> K3nto: did you meen to highlight me? :)
[05:39] <eobanb> crdlb, irc nicks are not case-sensitive
[05:39] <K3nto> kent: nope, just telling that guy my name
[05:39] <kent> K3nto: ok. we share the same name then. :)
[05:39] <LordLimecat> ./msg NickServ help gets no response
[05:39] <K3nto> kent: yep
[05:39] <edgymike> Ok, making progress on my sound problem.  So I reinstalled the module, however I cannot get it to load.  it  says module not found, even though I see it in the modules directory.  Is there something I need to do to get modprobe to see the module?
[05:39] <edgymike> FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 not found.
[05:39] <cisforcojo> has anyone installed custom icons in GNOME?
[05:40] <eobanb>  /msg nickserv help
[05:40] <eobanb> LordLimecat, without the period or space.
[05:40] <LordLimecat> no response
[05:40] <K3nto> "/msg NickServ REDISTER passawora
[05:40] <LordLimecat> i did
[05:40] <LordLimecat> no response
[05:40] <K3nto> no quote
[05:40] <K3nto> o
[05:40] <LordLimecat> again, no response
[05:40] <LordLimecat> just im me?
[05:40] <K3nto> are you in gaim
[05:40] <LordLimecat> or send me your name
[05:40] <LordLimecat> i use kopete
[05:40] <eobanb> LordLimecat, it works absolutely fine for me.  do you understand how your irc client works with private messages and notices?
[05:40] <LordLimecat> yes
[05:40] <LordLimecat> i do
[05:41] <LordLimecat> not an expert
[05:41] <LordLimecat> but i have a msg box open for him
[05:41] <LordLimecat> and i can say anythin, but no response
[05:41] <crdlb_> LordLimecat, /join #lordlimecat
[05:41] <K3nto> i omed him
[05:41] <dimeotane> If you want an OS free latop to buy here it is:    http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/022807-dell-lenovo-linux.html
[05:41] <K3nto> pm
[05:41] <eobanb> yes, and please, stop spamming this channel.
[05:41] <K3nto> he can see it
[05:41] <tovella> _pirinto_: if you boot from a liveCD and pop in a blank DVD, a dialog box should popup, asking you what you want to do - like create a new data CD.
[05:41] <dimeotane> Damn.. only a month ago i was looking for that!
[05:42] <pawlo> Witam
[05:42] <Lord_Maynoth_42> nothing for me either limecat
[05:42] <eobanb> dimeotane, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <pawlo> ZMam problem, moze mi kto pomc ?
[05:42] <eobanb> dimeotane, although i do agree it's great news :)
[05:42] <dimeotane> and helpful!
[05:42] <eobanb> !pl
[05:42] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:42] <tovella> _pirinto_: choose the drive that contains your / partition, and you should be well on your way.
[05:42] <codecaine> how can you use grep to only get 6 characters?
[05:42] <codecaine> thats your looking up
[05:43] <cables> Does anyone know how I could stop X from starting when I boot the LiveCD?
[05:43] <tomas_> I am viewing a website, it requires flash 9.0 but i already have it, still not running
[05:43] <tomas_> what else could i do
[05:43] <dignick> ubotu: i tried super grub disk, but everything I try it says error 15: file not found or says it can't find the partition.
[05:43] <eobanb> tomas_, do other flash sites work?
[05:43] <tovella> how can i find a program to auto-logout from an x-session? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8416/
[05:43] <crdlb> tomas_, go to about:config
[05:43] <tomas_> like youtube?
[05:43] <cables> tomas_, you might want to double-check your flash version by going to about:plugins in firefox
[05:43] <_pirinto_> tovella: I want to clone an IDE disk to another IDE disk (that's hooked up to the computer through an USB.-adapter
[05:43] <bhz-> I will pay $20 via paypal if you DoS someone for several hours. message me if interested
[05:43] <eobanb> tomas_, any flash site at all.
[05:44] <tomas_> i can see youtube
[05:44] <eobanb> tomas_, make sure it's not just a problem with one site.
[05:44] <slavik> what is a good newsgroup reader?
[05:44] <crdlb> tomas_, I mean about:plugins
[05:44] <eobanb> tomas_, if only one site doesnt work, then it's probably that site's temporary problem rather than your own fault
[05:44] <slavik> bhz-: this is a support channel
[05:44] <crdlb> tomas_, youtube only requires flash 7
[05:44] <tovella> _pirinto_: partimage is what i would use for that.
[05:44] <eobanb> bhz-, please leave now.
[05:45] <pawlo> Hello i have a problem
[05:45] <rbil> slavik: I like knode
[05:45] <_pirinto_> So I just wondered if I can do that with the GPARTED LiveCD
[05:45] <cisforcojo> bhz- was booted out of #linux just now
[05:45] <tomas_> here
[05:45] <pawlo> can you help me ??
[05:45] <bhz-> slavik I need support in kicking someone's ass
[05:45] <_pirinto_> tovella: thanks I'm downloading the iso right now. Just wanted to make sure thanks a lot
[05:45] <Carstone> How do i make Windows XP the default system to boot in my GRUB boot loader?
[05:45] <eobanb> !ops
[05:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:45] <Seveas> eobanb, ?
[05:45] <slavik> bhz-: sorry, we don't support your kind around here :)
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> Carstone: its in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:45] <tomas_>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[05:45] <tomas_>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78
[05:46] <Carstone> cool IndyGunFreak ill take a look.
[05:46] <slavik> Seveas: bhz- is attempting to solicit someone into doing 'mean things'
[05:46] <eobanb> slavik, he already got it
[05:46] <Seveas> slavik, saw it, thanks :)
[05:46] <pawlo> how i can at the ubuntu mount .nrg file ??
[05:46] <slavik> sorry, broken hand, can't type as fast :P
[05:46] <slavik> pawlo: .nrg is a nero image, try to convert it to ISO first ...
[05:47] <eobanb> there is a version of nero for linux though
 i try, but this dont work
[05:47] <R[a] ndom> isnt nero the same as iso?
[05:47] <R[a] ndom> with just a diff't extension?
[05:47] <eobanb> i have no idea how it might be able to handle .nrg though
[05:47] <R[a] ndom> nrg I meant
[05:47] <eobanb> R[a] ndom, that is totally possible.
[05:47] <R[a] ndom> cause I'm pretty sure in nero you can just change the extension to .iso while saving
[05:47] <TheVault> Can someone help real quick? I just installed Ubuntu 6.06(because my dang computer would not boot my DVD drive cause I have 6.10 on a DVD) and it was booting from the CD Drive. Anyway, I managed to install 6.06 and I know your able to upgrade to 6.10 using the CD. Well I was reading if you do the gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade command, that it will start upgrading from the CD. Well what command would I use if I wanted to upgrade f
[05:47] <slavik> R[a] ndom: I am not sure, but likely
[05:48] <pawlo> i have a .nrg file on the dvd disc, and i can't open that disc
[05:48] <cisforcojo> why would an icon theme change all icons but mp3s? (from what I can tell the filename and path for the mp3 icons are correct as well0
[05:48] <R[a] ndom> hm. theres a program called nrg2iso
[05:48] <R[a] ndom> so there must be a difference
[05:48] <dignick> Anybody: I've booted super boot disk floppy and so i'm at the grub command line.  how can I now install grub to the mbr to boot windows?
[05:48] <R[a] ndom> either that or its a renaming progra, :)
[05:49] <tovella> _pirinto_: yes, i think there's a way to clone a partition using gparted, as well.
[05:49] <slavik> tovella: or by using dd :)
[05:49] <bullgard2> TheVault: Please google for 'Ubuntu 6.06' and 'Upgrade'
[05:49] <TheVault> bullgard2: Thats how I was able to find out that command
[05:50] <eobanb> dignick, i'm unfamiliar with 'super boot disk floppy' and it's particular settings, so i dont know.  you can install grub from an ubuntu live cd however
[05:50] <eobanb> !grub > dignick
[05:50] <_pirinto_> tovella: I think that livecd contains partimage
[05:50] <slavik> eobanb: or from knoppix :P
[05:50] <TheVault> bullgard2: Instead of CD rom, I was it to point to my DVD drive instead so I can begin upgrading to 6.10
[05:50] <tesuki__> how do I add more PATHs to Gnome Terminal. I can do it for bash. but it dosn't add in gnometermian
[05:50] <eobanb> slavik, well of course, but then again, this is #ubuntu, not #knoppix, so...
[05:50] <tovella> slavik: that would be another way i'd consider doing it (dd) from a livdCD.
[05:51] <Jarhead756> has anyone heard of someone getting lightsrcribe to work in ubuntu? i know its' possible on any rpm based distro, but the last time i tried converting those rpm's to deb's, it didn't work.
[05:51] <slavik> eobanb: ubuntu is not exactly intended to be a livecd distro ...
[05:51] <eobanb> slavik, of course it is.
[05:51] <poe-t> hi
[05:51] <mindstate> is it possible to upgrade my Mesa 3d Driver from 1.2 to 1.3?
[05:51] <bullgard2> If you have a DVD with 6.10, yes do it.
[05:51] <tesuki__> jarhead756: compile from source?
[05:51] <slavik> eobanb: then there are many things missing which is a discussion for another time/place
[05:51] <Jarhead756> tesuki__: i don't think there is a source, unless you know of one...
[05:52] <poe-t> is there a ubuntu 6.10 live DVD available for download?
[05:52] <eobanb> slavik, of course.  but i'm just saying that it'd work fine for installing grub.
[05:52] <eobanb> poe-t, indeed there is
[05:52] <TheVault> bullgard2: instead of the gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade command, what command would I use to go to my DVD drive?
[05:52] <poe-t> is there a ubuntu 6.10 live DVD available for download? all I could find was a live cd ;-(
[05:52] <cisforcojo> how do you change default icons for MIME filetypes in gnome?
[05:52] <Evil_`> What could I use for burning CD's?
[05:52] <dignick> eobanb: i meant super grub disk.  i can't boot the live cd, easily anyway.I'm just looking for a command to install grub to the mbr - presumably its the setup command?
[05:53] <poe-t> eobanb, could please direct me to it or the torrent of it (preferrably) or ftp?
[05:53] <Evil_`> well, burning DVD's
[05:53] <bullgard2> TheVault: Wait a moment. I'll be back here.
[05:53] <cables> Evil_`, GnomeBaker on Gnome, K3b on KDE.
[05:53] <poe-t> eobanb, does it allow to show off beryl to windows guys?
[05:53] <eobanb> poe-t, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[05:53] <TheVault> bullgard2: Alrighty
[05:53] <NegativeSpace> Hi, can someone tell me what "source" does?
[05:53] <eobanb> poe-t, scroll all the way down to the bottom
[05:53] <poe-t> eobanb, thank you!
[05:53] <eobanb> poe-t, the liveCD? no
[05:53] <NegativeSpace> !source
[05:53] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:54] <eobanb> poe-t, once ubuntu is installed, you can install beryl
[05:54] <cisforcojo> anyone?
[05:55] <MadP3nGu1n> does anyone know of a good theme site?
[05:55] <mindstate> is it possible to upgrade my Mesa 3d Driver from 1.2 to 1.3?
[05:55] <rolnyzx> what was the command to know the version of xyz program?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> gnome-look.org kde-look.org
[05:55] <K3nto> woot WoW runs, wine rules!
[05:55] <MadP3nGu1n> yea been to thoes
[05:55] <MadP3nGu1n> any besides them?
[05:55] <cisforcojo> art.gnome.org
[05:56] <cisforcojo> deviantart.com
[05:56] <eobanb> http://art.gnome.org/
[05:56] <MadP3nGu1n> thx
[05:56] <eobanb> yeah
[05:56] <K3nto> how can i uninstall crossover
[05:56] <cisforcojo> how can I change a mime filetype icon? (specifically for mp3)
[05:56] <eobanb> K3nto, ask the crossover people, not us.  it's a commercial product; they should be supporting it.
[05:56] <K3nto> ok
[05:56] <slavik> someone call for me?
[05:57] <cisforcojo> K3nto: u should be able to do it in synaptic
[05:58] <K3nto> ok
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> anyone know how I can make my desktop, two separate work spaces, instead of one huge desktop on a dual monitor system?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8404/  there is my xorg.conf
[05:58] <TheVault> how would i change this command for a dvd drive? gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[05:59] <K3nto> cisfrocojo: nope its not there
[05:59] <poe-t> eobanb, I can use it as a live dvd and installation dvd right?
[05:59] <eobanb> poe-t, yes, it is the same thing.
[05:59] <eobanb> TheVault, if you open nautilus and navigate to your dvd drive, you can see what the path to the mounted volume is
[05:59] <TheVault> wheres nauilus located?
[06:00] <mindstate> is it possible to upgrade my Mesa 3d Driver from 1.2 to 1.3?
[06:00] <poe-t> eobanb, thank you. I'm going to try to convert some people w/it ;-)
[06:00] <tovella> TheVault: on my machine, the CD drive and DVD drive appear the same.
[06:00] <TheVault> eobanb: wheres that located?
[06:00] <eobanb> TheVault, nautilus.  nautilus! the file manager, you know
[06:00] <TheVault> oh
[06:00] <eobanb> poe-t, good luck to you with that :)
[06:00] <poe-t> mindstate, if the newer version is not in the repo why do you need that?
[06:00] <mindstate> poe-t, to play a game
[06:01] <TheVault> alrighty, lemme see....I am trying to upgrade my 6.06 to 6.10. I have an external DVD drive so thats why I am asking
[06:01] <eobanb> poe-t, i'd advise installing it before demoing though, for speed purposes mainly
[06:01] <eobanb> and so that you can customise it
[06:02] <tovella> gotta go eat (& feed my dogs) ...later.
[06:02] <TheVault> SWEET
[06:02] <eobanb> get it to work?
[06:02] <TheVault> Thanks guys, I just opened it up and found the cdromupgrade file and double clicked, put it in terminal and now its doing its thing
[06:02] <poe-t> eobanb, well.. yeah that would be best but I'll have to demo it first ;-) speed comparable to knoppix?
[06:03] <eobanb> poe-t, well i'm just saying that any liveCD tends to be much slower than the desktop equivalent.
[06:03] <poe-t> mindstate, can you try to convince your game to use h/w accel ?
[06:03] <eobanb> poe-t, especially to boot up
[06:03] <dignick> Anyone: I'm trying to install grub to the master boot record [setup (hd0)] , but I'm getting error 25 disk read error.  Can anyone help or tell me where I can get help?
[06:03] <poe-t> eobanb, of course
[06:03] <alejandra> hi
[06:03] <informatica> hola
[06:03] <eobanb> !grub
[06:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:03] <mindstate> poe-t, not sure
[06:03] <edgymike> This is a weird problem: I'm trying to modprobe an alsa module I installed, but I'm getting FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 not found.   I can clearly see the module in the directory though
[06:03] <alejandra> ke onda gabriela
[06:03] <alejandra> :p
[06:04] <informatica> ale
[06:04] <eobanb> !es
[06:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:04] <informatica> soy jesus
[06:04] <informatica> quien eres tu
[06:04] <informatica> quieres se mi amiguita
[06:04] <eobanb> ...
[06:04] <alejandra> soy alejandra
[06:04] <alejandra> klaro ke kiero ser tu amiga xD
[06:04] <informatica> ok
[06:05] <poe-t> mindstate, I stopped using acceleration a month ago in my debianbut afaik h/w accel srivers supply replacement for Mesa3d. maybe simple links to that will do?
[06:05] <poe-t> drivers*
[06:05] <eobanb> informatica and alejandra, i can see that you're both from the same IP address.  please stop trolling
[06:05] <dignick> eobanb: i've looked there.  there is nothing I can see relating to the errors I am getting.
[06:06] <Steve_C2> HI, I'm a Linux-ubuntu newbie and I need some help connecting to a windows 2000 system and to a network printer on my home network.
[06:06] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Steve_C2 about samba | Steve_C2 see priv msg from ubotu
[06:07] <erUSUL> Steve_C2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[06:07] <Steve_C2> I have installed samba but still having problems
[06:07] <eobanb> Steve_C2, specifically...?
[06:07] <Steve_C2> eobanb, what would you like to know
[06:08] <sivik> anyone here use teamspeak
[06:08] <eobanb> Steve_C2, just what you mean by 'still having problems'
[06:08] <eobanb> no one can help you unless you say what exactly the error is.
[06:08] <Steve_C2> eobanb, not printing
[06:09] <eobanb> hm, i wonder if that's a difference between XP and 2k..
[06:09] <Steve_C2> eobanb, the printer is added but when I do a test page nothing comes out. The job appears in the print queue
[06:09] <eobanb> Steve_C2, you mean it appears on the 2k machine's print queue?
[06:09] <informatica> gabiota
[06:09] <eobanb> so you can see it from there?
[06:09] <sivik> anyone here use teamspeak?
[06:09] <bullgard2> TheVault: Are you still here?
[06:09] <eobanb> sivik, no need to ask more than once.
[06:10] <sivik> eobanb: ok
[06:10] <eobanb> bullgard2, i believe he parted
[06:10] <informatica_> hola gabi}
[06:10] <Gabiotica> Hola Ale
[06:10] <eobanb> informatica, please stop.
[06:10] <bullgard2> eobanb: Thanks for info.
[06:10] <eobanb> bullgard2, there, he's back.
[06:10] <Steve_C2> eobanb, the printer is added and I'm able to go into properties and print a test page but nothing comes out
[06:11] <bullgard2> TheVault: Are you still here?
[06:11] <eobanb> Steve_C2, uhm, so really this is a windows problem.
[06:11] <eobanb> not an ubuntu problem.
[06:11] <TheVault> Yeah I am here
[06:11] <TheVault> I just found it
[06:11] <TheVault> I opened the DVD drive, found the upgrade file
[06:11] <bullgard2> TheVault: What did you find?
[06:11] <TheVault> ran that in terminal and now its upgrading away
[06:11] <Steve_C2> eobanb, I kinda doubt it since the printer works fine in windows on my network
[06:11] <bullgard2> Congtrats!
[06:11] <TheVault> bullgard2: Found the cdromupgrade file under my DVD drive, ran that in terminal
[06:12] <TheVault> Thanks Bullgard2
[06:12] <eobanb> Steve_C2, i'll ask again: does the test page show up on the 2k machine's print queue, or the ubuntu one?
[06:12] <TheVault> I am a big time linux noob
[06:12] <xelados> I downloaded the VMware tarball (101 mB), but have no idea how to actually install it. It seems like it's already compiled, and I can't find a README or anything that outlines how to install.
[06:12] <TheVault> and already figuring things out :D
[06:12] <Steve_C2> eobanb, the system I'm on right now using linux is a dual booted system with XP and ubuntu. The printer works fine when printing from XP
[06:12] <jack> hello all
[06:12] <sivik> xelados, there should be a .sh file in that folder
[06:12] <jack> can anyone help me with a general problem?
[06:12] <sivik> jack: what is that problem
[06:12] <bullgard2>  TheVault: OK, good luck. I'm leaving
[06:12] <TheVault> Alrighty
[06:12] <TheVault> Later
[06:12] <eobanb> Steve_C2, that is not what i am talking about.  i'm asking this: when you print the test page from ubuntu, does it show up on the 2k machine's print queue?
[06:13] <sivik> xelados, it shoudl be like install....sh
[06:13] <Steve_C2> eobanb, I know it shows up on ubuntu, I'll go look and see if it appears on the win2000 system
[06:13] <xelados> There's a vmware-install.pl
[06:13] <eobanb> Steve_C2, yes, please.  that is what i have been asking all along.
[06:13] <xelados> as well as an 'installer' directory
[06:13] <eobanb> xelados, well assume you run the script then.
[06:13] <TheVault> What will happen once my upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 happens? Will I still have my files & things?
[06:13] <jack> sivik: well i actually have kubuntu, but when i went to boot it this morning, it goes to load, and instead of giving me a gui login like usual, it just gives me a command line
[06:13] <eobanb> sudo ./vmware-install.pl , xelados
[06:13] <slavik> TheVault: yes
[06:13] <eobanb> TheVault, yes
[06:14] <slavik> eobanb: beat you :P
[06:14] <TheVault> slavik: Thanks. What about my login & things? Will I have to re-setup that stuff?
[06:14] <Steve_C2> eobanb, their are no documents showing up in the print queue on the windows 2000 system
[06:14] <slavik> TheVault: no, the only thing that gets updated are all the packages (kernel, drivers, programs, etc)
[06:14] <eobanb> TheVault, assuming you're dist-upgrading rather than re-installing from the disc, everything will still be there, including your gdm configuration
[06:15] <sivik> jack: theres a file that you have to edit that starts in run level 5 rather than run level 3 but i can't remember the name of the file
[06:15] <TheVault> alrighty, I'll take your word on that as I have no idea on what your talking about(me=linux noob)
[06:15] <eobanb> Steve_C2, is this what you are doing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[06:15] <thompa> is there some way to get real player to work in 64 like mepis64 does?
[06:15] <sivik> how do i tell if i have a multiple programs open trying to run sound
[06:15] <xelados> Umm..
[06:15] <`nicola> since I installed firefox 32 on a 64 system using a tutorial. Now I ask myself if I will ever be able to put the firefox icon here http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/nicoladimaria/Schermata.png
[06:15] <`nicola> thanks
[06:15] <Steve_C2> eobanb, let me go check
[06:16] <vaughn> help: What is the japanese input method used in ubuntu fiesty?
[06:16] <TheVault> Someone had asked me a good question and the question was this: "Why did you decide to use ubuntu"
[06:16] <mindstate> is it possible to upgrade my Mesa 3d Driver from 1.2 to 1.3?
[06:16] <jack> sivik: im a little new to linux in general, what are run levels and how do i access them?(i can navigate through command line pretty well, just need a path)
[06:16] <xelados> It seems like I have to compile something for my CPU, but I don't know where my C header files are.
[06:16] <xelados> I've installed build-essential before, so I know I have them.
[06:16] <TheVault> I told them that, screw viruses and spyware and they got the point :P
[06:16] <xelados> I just don't know where.
[06:16] <codecaine> I have  64bit processor but I use the 32bit distro more support
[06:16] <thompa> im just wondering how to get real player to work on ubuntu64?
[06:16] <codecaine> 64bit just good for faster encryption etc
[06:16] <eobanb> xelados, are you talking about your vmware installer? i highly doubt you need to compile anything.
[06:16] <slavik> jack: run levels are used to separate 'modes' in which ubuntu runs, 1 run level might start something that another one doesn't
[06:16] <MadP3nGu1n> im trying to install a login screen and i get an error..this is not a tar file..it is
[06:17] <eobanb> MadP3nGu1n, do others work?
[06:17] <Steve_C2> eobanb, essentially yes. I will follow the instructions and will get back to you in a minute
[06:17] <slavik> jack: /etc/rc?.d where ? is a number from 1 to 6 or S
[06:17] <xelados> None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your
[06:17] <xelados> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[06:17] <xelados> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes] 
[06:17] <xelados> Sorry for the spam
[06:17] <eobanb> Steve_C2, okay, good; and make sure to try disabling bidirectional support
[06:17] <TheVault> quick question: Where can I find more information on Fiesty(7.04 of Ubuntu)
[06:17] <sivik> jack, i can't remember the file name
[06:17] <slavik> TheVault: I wouldn't suggest using it unless you are fine with (possibly) losing things
[06:17] <eobanb> xelados, i dont know, sorry
[06:17] <xelados> Damn. :\
[06:17] <sharperguy> anwyaweo [ o otig e w3yeHG?
[06:18] <eobanb> sharperguy, say what?
[06:18] <MadP3nGu1n> well i only tryed the default login screen..but i downloadeda new one and cant install it
[06:18] <jack> sivik: thats ok, someone on the other channel said something about my X not working because i can use command line, but no gui
[06:18] <vaughn> help: What is the japanese input method used in ubuntu fiesty? Anyone?
[06:18] <TheVault> slavik: No, just wanna know what new features & upgrades and things, whats improved
[06:18] <sharperguy> anyone know why gnome-nethack always crashes?
[06:18] <slavik> TheVault: search the wiki :)
[06:18] <eobanb> MadP3nGu1n, well try some others and see if those work.  i just want to see if it is only a problem with that one, or all of the ones you are downloading and trying to install.
[06:18] <TheVault> Thanks :D
[06:18] <TheVault> This linux noob is learning alot :)
[06:18] <slavik> TheVault: the wiki usually has info and such
[06:19] <slavik> TheVault: good :P
[06:19] <eobanb> TheVault, join #ubuntu+1 for 7.04 info
[06:19] <TheVault> alrighty :D
[06:19] <daedra> has anyone successfully installed cmus?
[06:19] <daedra> !cmus
[06:19] <vaughn> any japanese language user here? or can anyone point me to the irc of japanese ubuntu user?
[06:19] <ubotu> cmus: Lightweight ncurses audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 428 kB
[06:19] <eobanb> !jp
[06:19] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[06:20] <crdlb> daedra, I'm a big fan of mpd + ncmpc
[06:20] <vaughn> ah.. thanks eobanb
[06:20] <eobanb> vaughn, also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installing_Japanese_Input_and_Fonts
[06:20] <daedra> crdlb: I've resorted to mp3blaster for now, but your option sounds a bit complicated for me
[06:20] <crdlb> daedra, It's really not hard
[06:20] <daedra> crdlb: what I was looking for was cmus
[06:21] <daedra> !ncmpc
[06:21] <ubotu> ncmpc: text based audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.1+svn-r3362-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 332 kB
[06:21] <crdlb> daedra, is it failing to install?
[06:21] <daedra> crdlb: yes.
[06:21] <printerproblems> can anybody here help me get a lexmark z600 working on amd 64?
[06:21] <crdlb> daedra, in what way?
[06:21] <printerproblems> i have packages but they are for i386, idk if thats the problem
[06:21] <daedra> crdlb: I added the best repo I could find (grml.org) and it has problems getting the gpg key
[06:21] <eobanb> printerproblems, you are running 64-bit ubuntu?
[06:22] <printerproblems> yeah
[06:22] <xelados> printerproblems: Try using 'sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture <debfile>'
[06:22] <xelados> That's what will allow you to install a 32-bit app
[06:22] <arn> hi, is there any player that can paly "vdo" extention movie?
[06:22] <printerproblems> ok
[06:22] <arn> sorry "vob"
[06:23] <Dr_willis> vdo? thats a new one.
[06:23] <crdlb> daedra, cmus is in universe
[06:23] <daedra> is it?
[06:23] <sivik> Dr_willis, how do i tell if i have multiple programs trying to run my sound drivers?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> vob?thats  easy.. vlc can do that.. so can others..
[06:23] <xelados> Blah, it seems like support for 64-bit Ubuntu is sketchy on VMware.
[06:23] <daedra> try getting it...
[06:23] <eobanb> arn, that's a video object file, probably a DVD rip.  VLC, mplayer, etc will play it fine
[06:23] <xelados> -_-
[06:23] <Dr_willis> sivik,  never noticed.. :) i dont have problems if that happens with my sound card.
[06:23] <crdlb> daedra, according to ubotu
[06:23] <arn> ok
[06:23] <dtolj> how do I set library path to point to different dir?
[06:23] <xelados> Is there anything 64-bit can do right? I figured using a 64-bit OS would've helped my system and bring out the power of my CPU..
[06:24] <crdlb> daedra, it doesn't appear to be in dapper
[06:24] <daedra> paste from apt-get install cmus: "Package cmus is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[06:24] <aib> why is proftpd configured to use IPV6 by default? how do I disable this?
[06:24] <printerproblems> xelados, yes me too
[06:24] <printerproblems> does it not?
[06:24] <aib> the log file is chock full of IPv6 errors :(
[06:24] <crdlb> daedra, but mpd and ncmpc are in dapper
[06:25] <daedra> crdlb: :(
[06:25] <xelados> Well, it seems to, printerproblems, but software support for 64-bit isn't as broad as 32-bit.
[06:25] <printerproblems> xelados, one problem im having is that these packages are just folders
[06:25] <daedra> crdlb: I hate being restricted by the limitations of a certain distro
[06:25] <xelados> So 64-bit users end up having to either hack or wait to get some programs with decent support.
[06:25] <printerproblems> i have to open them with the package installers
[06:25] <printerproblems> yeah i might have to use vista for awhile but id much rather get things working in ubuntu
[06:26] <xelados> Oh, I'd gladly dualboot if this blasted computer would do it right.
[06:26] <xelados> I've done it before.
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> anyone know how I can make my desktop, two separate work spaces, instead of one huge desktop on a dual monitor system?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8404/  there is my xorg.conf
[06:26] <xelados> GRUB kept erroring on me when I tried.
[06:26] <printerproblems> u have a 64-bit but u cant dual boot?
[06:26] <xelados> Error 18, something to do with the partitions.
[06:26] <dtolj> when searching for libraries does anything take precedence over LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[06:26] <Steve_C2> eobanb, ok I did as instructed and still no go
[06:27] <rbil> printerproblems, xelados: 64-bit Linux really only gives on access to more RAM. Hardly necessary on a workstation, but beneficial on a server. On a workstation, one typically wants to be able to run more userspace programs and assorted drivers, so using 32-bit makes more sense.
[06:27] <xelados> I could easily backup my /home and a few config files and try again.. but I'd need to borrow my friend's laptop so I can get support as I go along.
[06:28] <xelados> rbil: Does that mean running a 64-bit Linux is pointless unless you need the extra RAM?
[06:28] <rbil> xelandos: for a workstation, probably
[06:28] <xelados> This box is for working/desktop usage. Hardly a server. :P
[06:28] <TheVault> Question: Is there any open source programs that allow you to control other peoples computer(like say I wanna control my laptop or vice versa or wanna help a friend out?)
[06:28] <printerproblems> but if im running a lot of video editing and sound editing programs
[06:28] <printerproblems> wouldnt it be beneficial to have more access to the ram
[06:28] <dtolj> TheVault: realVNC
[06:28] <rbil> xelandos: certainly won't give you any more speed, but as you're finding will constrict what will run
[06:29] <verner> ok, xorg won't start, I get an error with something like: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8776, but this X module has the version 1.0-9746
[06:29] <TheVault> Oh alrighty. Another quick question, whats a good program that plays MP3 files?
[06:29] <verner> what do I do?
[06:29] <rbil> printerproblems: only if you've got a terabyte of RAM :-)
[06:29] <dtolj> TheVault: xmms
[06:29] <printerproblems> ive got a gig?
[06:29] <dtolj> TheVault: nice and small
[06:29] <xelados> Well damn. In that case, I think I'll download and burn one of the vanilla Ubuntu isos or something.
[06:29] <TheVault> and one final question. I play alot of AVI files, MPG and things, what program would I use to play those files?
[06:29] <dtolj> TheVault: did u get your Ubuntu to boot up?
[06:29] <rbil> printerproblems: 32-bit will handle a gig easily.
[06:29] <walrus> ppl, how can i know some program's dependencies ???? e.g. : "depends" on win32 ...
[06:29] <CyBerHigh> Hello, I am having a hard time getting stackless python to install on my system
[06:29] <xelados> I feel like an idiot for nabbing a 64-bit one
[06:30] <xelados> :|
[06:30] <printerproblems> haha ok
[06:30] <CyBerHigh> I run configurea nd get this
[06:30] <CyBerHigh> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[06:30] <CyBerHigh> bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or director
[06:30] <dtolj> TheVault: mplayer with codecs
[06:30] <Dr_willis> TheVault,  any of several players can play most all of them
[06:30] <TheVault> dtolj: I sure did
[06:30] <CyBerHigh> any ideas?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> TheVault,  vlc, mplayer, xine, totem,
[06:30] <TheVault> so I just need the codecs
[06:30] <Dr_willis> !codecs
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <walrus> ppl, how can i know some program's dependencies ???? e.g. : "depends" on win32 ...
[06:30] <eshaase> does ubuntu's installer support the setup of a LVM system?
[06:30] <TheVault> Thanks guys :) what a very helpful room!
[06:30] <rbil> printerproblems: I can't remember now the exact cutoff point where 64-bit becomes useful in terms of amount of RAM, but it's way up there. More than you'll ever pack into a workstation computer
[06:31] <dtolj> walrus: its should say when in Synaptic
[06:31] <printerproblems> dang i dont feel like reinstalling
[06:31] <eobanb> in my opinion, there is no real reason for most desktop users to run 64-bit linux even if they have a 64-bit CPU.
[06:31] <daedra> crdlb: ok, I'm trying out this ncmpc thing
[06:31] <dtolj> TheVault: get the codes from mplayer site
[06:31] <printerproblems> but wont 64-bit handle 1 gig better than 32-bit will?
[06:31] <rbil> printerproblems: no
[06:31] <xelados> printerproblems: Nah. 32-bit runs up to 4 gB of RAM
[06:32] <daedra> crdlb: and when I Browse no files appear
[06:32] <Dr_willis> 1 gb? i though it really only mattered at 4+gb of ram.
[06:32] <Steve_C2> eobanb, any more ideas on how to get my printer to work?
[06:32] <xelados> so basically you shouldn't use a 64-bit OS unless you have more than 4gB of RAM
[06:32] <xelados> Or so it seems.
[06:32] <daedra> crdlb: even when I run it from a dir full of music
[06:32] <eshaase> does ubuntu's installer support the setting up of a system with LVM?
[06:32] <printerproblems> haha dang
[06:32] <xelados> Makes ya feel silly, huh?
[06:32] <dtolj> TheVault: or better yet install Automatix
[06:32] <printerproblems> lol yeah
[06:32] <xelados> I'll probably retry dualbooting today after I backup some important files.
[06:32] <slavik> eshaase: you have to manually edit the partitions, then you can have lvm, I think
[06:32] <eobanb> !automatix > dtolj
[06:32] <TheVault> dtolj: Automatix? Whats that do?
[06:32] <walrus> ppl, how can i know some program's dependencies ???? e.g. : "depends" on win32 ...
[06:32] <eobanb> !automatix
[06:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:33] <slavik> eshaase: in the installer that is
[06:33] <TheVault> heh, even the bot says not to use it lol
[06:33] <eshaase> slavik: so in the process there is a step to setup lvm?
[06:33] <xelados> walrus: If you're using dpkg or something similar, it won't install without satisfying dependencies and will let you know what you need.
[06:33] <printerproblems> thevault, its just fine for multimedia codecs
[06:33] <slavik> walrus: in synaptic, find the package and look at the process
[06:33] <dtolj> TheVault: well its good for some things
[06:33] <TheVault> oh i got ya
[06:33] <slavik> eshaase: check the isntaller, I think it is there, but I am not 100% sure
[06:33] <TheVault> what about upgrading Firefox? it will do that to?
[06:33] <sureshot> hey all i am using fc6 but the command is the same i would think could i have help mounting a unix cd
[06:34] <verner> ok, in case someone didn't see it: xorg won't start, I get an error with something like: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8776, but this X module has the version 1.0-9746
[06:34] <xelados> Hmm.. is Fluxbuntu32 stable enough yet?
[06:34] <sacater> anyone here who is good at perl, uses ubuntu and the TEA package, please join #sacater
[06:34] <eobanb> xelados, i have no idea.  probably not.
[06:34] <slavik> sureshot: mount -t 9660 /dev/cdrom /mount/point
[06:34] <TheVault> Will automatix update Firefox as well?
[06:34] <eobanb> no automatix questions please.
[06:34] <xelados> verner: You need to either upgrade the kernel or downgrade the module
[06:34] <walrus> slavik, i know that, i didnt explained myself well =$, lets suppose i have compiled myself a shared library and i want to make sure it has linked well to its dependencies ...
[06:34] <eobanb> ask in #automatix
[06:34] <TheVault> sorry eobanb
[06:34] <TheVault> jumping there now
[06:34] <daedra> crdlb: ...
[06:34] <rbil> TheVault: yes
[06:35] <TheVault> Thanks
[06:35] <slavik> walrus: then no idea, sorry, unless when you do ./configure, it tells you about missing stuff
[06:35] <verner> xelados, well as far as I can see I got the newest versions both places
[06:35] <walrus> slavik, dont worry ... thx anyway :):) ..
[06:35] <sureshot> slavik i dont think it is a 9660 it says on it to mount -t cdfs-o noversion /dev/rx*c /dev/cdrom i dont understand this
[06:35] <xelados> verner: I had a similar problem once.. I tinkered around with the versions and eventually straightened it out.
[06:35] <slavik> walrus: check out #ubuntu-motu, they have some ideas
[06:35] <printerproblems> why is it so hard to just get a ppd file for a printer
[06:36] <verner> xelados, ok, I'll try, thanks
[06:36] <slavik> sureshot: have you seen the manpage for mount?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> printerproblems,  printer company may or may not release the specs... is the biggest problem ive seen
[06:36] <xelados> verner: No problem.
[06:36] <eshaase> slavik: ok, thanks
[06:36] <rbil> printerproblems: what printer?
[06:36] <sureshot> yes call me dumb but man pages seem to alud me in meaning
[06:36] <sureshot> slavik yes call me dumb but man pages seem to alud me in meaning
[06:37] <sigix> hi guys... I'm having wireless connectivity issues and could use some help, everything from iwconfig, lshw to modprobe seem to checkout, I can "appear" connected but no network traffic, also, I can never get a dhcpoffer
[06:37] <rbil> sureshot: man pages gives you syntax, unfortunately, not many include examples
[06:37] <alex__> hello :) can anyone help me get sound working? (newbie)
[06:37] <slavik> sureshot: the basic syntax for mount is: mount -t fstype /dev/ice /mount/point
[06:37] <Steve_C2> rbil, were you asking me about my printer problems or talking to smeone else
[06:37] <rbil> Steve_C2: talking to someone else
[06:37] <Steve_C2> rbil, ok
[06:38] <sureshot> slavik does ubuntu handle cdfs as it says and is that /dev/ice or /dev/device
[06:38] <Bakefy> how do I set line in to be my audio capture device?
[06:38] <yurimxpxman> What's the easiest way to get full gstreamer support for nautilus' sound previews?
[06:38] <slavik> sureshot: /dev/ice is for you to understand, but masically you mount a device to a mount point
[06:38] <slavik> sureshot: not really sure, shouldn't the cd automount anyway?
[06:38] <sureshot> ok thanks
[06:39] <yurimxpxman> hey, how do I get MP3 support in the sound previews in Nautilus?
[06:39] <sureshot> slvaik is it not a standard cd it is a vms cd and it is supposd to mount in unixe by this means
[06:40] <J-_> When reporting a crash, is there an option to report the /var/crash/<_usr_whatever.1000.crash> file?
[06:40] <alex__> I put in a cd but i get no sound, anyone have any suggestions
[06:40] <slavik> sureshot: are you running within a VM?
[06:40] <Steve_C2> I need some help printing to a network printer from a ubuntu system. I can add the printer, check the properties, but when I print a test page nothing happens.
[06:40] <Steve_C2> I should add that I'm a real linux newbie
[06:41] <sigix> Steve_C2: This is typically a driver issue, try using a different driver
[06:41] <sureshot> no not yet but will be shortly i guess i will have to mount it in vms it says how to do that as well thanks for your help as soon as i get a 6.10 cd i am comming back to ubuntu
[06:41] <Steve_C2> sigix, what driver would you suggest
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Steve_C2,  checking the  /var/log/cups/  logs may help also.
[06:41] <slavik> sureshot: are you using vmware?
[06:42] <sureshot> those guy on the fedora channel dont give noobs a chance
[06:42] <leo|server> how do i activate UTF-8 for vsftpd?
[06:42] <sureshot> slavik yes open vms
[06:42] <sigix> depends on printer, usually a straight postscript driver will work basics
[06:42] <Steve_C2> Dr_willis, I'm not sure if I'd recognize what is wrong or not
[06:42] <Enselic``> Is there any program that allows me to calculate fourier coeffecients?
[06:42] <slavik> sureshot: your cdrom should be linked to the virtual cdrom ...
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Steve_C2,  but its a place to look at least . :)
[06:43] <crdlb> daedra, you still there?
[06:43] <sureshot> slavic it will be in vms getting ready to boot it up
[06:43] <daedra> crdlb: yeah
[06:43] <sigix> Dr_willis is right, check it and post any errors etc... here
[06:43] <printerproblems> my alien isnt converting these rpms to debs for some reason
[06:43] <printerproblems> i keep gettin directories
[06:43] <daedra> crdlb: I was just saying I'm having problems setting up ncmpc
[06:44] <rbil> printerproblems: I'll ask again, what printer do u have?
[06:44] <zoli2k> Hi, I want to clean up an ubuntu edgy installation from X related apps, Is there an easy way?
[06:44] <printerproblems> lexmark z600
[06:44] <Steve_C2> The driver that is installed says it is foo2hp and that it is recommended and suggested
[06:44] <daedra> I put the browse page up and none of my files are listed
[06:44] <sureshot> slavic booting the emulator now and vms so thanks alot
[06:44] <crdlb> daedra, is your nick registered?
[06:45] <sigix> Steve_C2, how is the printer networked, SMB, TCP/IP?
[06:45] <sureshot> slavik booting the emulator now and vms so thanks alot
[06:45] <printerproblems> rbil, i was doing this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215657
[06:45] <Joeeigel> K3nto?
[06:45] <slavik> sureshot: so you have an os (ubuntu?) in vms, correct? if so, then ubuntu should see a regular cd drive as vms is supposed to 'fool' it into doing so
[06:45] <printerproblems> i got to the last step but im getting folders instead of debs
[06:45] <daedra> crdlb: yes
[06:45] <printerproblems> i try to open the folders with gdebi but i get an error
[06:45] <[MINE] Devy> Hiya what to do when ubuntu think i got a 19inch lcd but i got a 20 inch lcd? Tried newest and older nvidia drivers, but no luck. it still think im sitting with an 19 inch so i cant get the res up to 1600x1200
[06:46] <crdlb> daedra, then PM me
[06:46] <Steve_C2> sigix, I installed samba and when I picked the type of connection I choose windows smb
[06:46] <sureshot> slavik dont understand i am running simh in fc6 it runs the vms
[06:46] <sigix> did you enter in your credentials?
[06:46] <amena> hi. is there no texlive in ubuntu LTS version? (is there a way to get hold of texlive anyway?)
[06:46] <slavik> sureshot: what do you have inside of openvms?
[06:46] <K3nto> Joeegel: sry
[06:46] <K3nto> im here
[06:46] <K3nto> i was playing wow
[06:47] <Steve_C2> sigix, it asked me to signon if that's what you mean
[06:47] <edgymike> yay! Got sound working, thanks Jowi and bulmer
[06:47] <slavik> K3nto: what server?
[06:47] <sureshot> slavik nothing i am running linux first then running vms inside it
[06:48] <Steve_C2> sigix, on the windows side I logged in as the user and their password. Then it asked me to sign on again for my linux system where I entered my username and password
[06:48] <Jowi> edgymike, you found out why the modprobe hung?
[06:48] <slavik> sureshot: I see ...
[06:48] <IceBear> hi there
[06:48] <sureshot> how would i do it your way
[06:49] <K3nto> slavik: boulderfist
[06:49] <sigix> hmm... I would look in the logs as suggested before...
[06:49] <K3nto> slavik: do you play in windowed mode?
[06:49] <Funcod> Hi
[06:49] <Helmi> g'evening guys. i'm just trying to upgrade edgy to feisty on a test machine but the update-manager tells me everything is up2date. (starting with -d of course and also did the .gnupg-workaround)
[06:49] <Helmi> any ideas?
[06:49] <IceBear> can you guys help me with a quick question please? how do i deactivate the xserver autostart?
[06:49] <Steve_C2> sigix, ok
[06:49] <sureshot> slavik how would i do it your way
[06:49] <slavik> K3nto: full screen
[06:49] <slavik> K3nto: durotan :)
[06:49] <K3nto> nust
[06:49] <K3nto> nuts*
[06:49] <Funcod> i just wana inform the admin of the ubuntu website that on ie 6 theres an enormous gap on the website
[06:50] <Funcod> and u have to scroll down
[06:50] <slavik> sureshot: openvms runs just inside linux?
[06:50] <Funcod> to see the content
[06:50] <slavik> sureshot: a good place to ask would be the openvms people ...
[06:50] <Funcod> its not the right place for this?
[06:50] <sureshot> slavik i would have to go to the forums the channels are dead no one there so thanks for your help
[06:51] <rbil> printerproblems: maybe try this guide? http://finebushpeople.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=65
[06:51] <slavik> sureshot: np :-\
[06:51] <jamx> im trying to install Herd 5, but it freezes at the "migrate documents/settings" point
[06:51] <jamx> any ideas?
[06:51] <printerproblems> rbil, pretty much the same thing
[06:51] <Funcod> hello?
[06:51] <printerproblems> exactly the same actually
[06:51] <dtolj> jamx: GNU Herd?
[06:51] <printerproblems> my alien wont conver them idk why
[06:51] <rbil> printerproblems: so alien isn't working?
[06:52] <printerproblems> im getting folders instead of packages
[06:52] <jamx> dtolj: no feisy herd 5
[06:52] <jamx> feisty
[06:52] <printerproblems> well it might be because there i386
[06:52] <printerproblems> rbil, if i sent u my rpms, could u convert them and send em back as debs?
[06:53] <rbil> printerproblems: possibly? but sometimes u have to just wait for some period of time with alien before a deb actually gets written
[06:53] <Funcod> is there anyone here whos working on the ubuntu website?
[06:53] <rbil> printerproblems: seems to stall, but must be working in memory
[06:53] <dtolj> Funcod: no why?
[06:53] <printerproblems> ive been here for a while, i dont think its gonna make any debs
[06:53] <slavik> well azureus doesn't like the sun 1.5 jre
[06:53] <Funcod> there's a problem
[06:53] <jamx> no one has an idea how to fix it ? ;/
[06:53] <rbil> printerproblems: I've noticed that with the odd rpm I've converted
[06:53] <Funcod> in the rendering of the website
[06:53] <Funcod> in ie 6
[06:54] <printerproblems> noticed what?
[06:54] <rbil> takes time to get the deb written
[06:54] <Funcod> a big problem
[06:54] <Narqulie> Ok.. How can I edit Xorg.conf (since it's read only)
[06:54] <ffxr> can someone tell me what these modules are, ive been trying to fix my audio, no i want to identify any unnessary modules in my modules file : lp  rtc sbp2
[06:54] <dtolj> Funcod: interesting try on #ubuntu-devel
[06:54] <erUSUL> 9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9
[06:54] <Funcod> k
[06:54] <Funcod> thx
[06:54] <printerproblems> rbil, well its making folders instead of debs
[06:54] <jamx> Narqulie:sudo gedit xorg.conf
[06:55] <apokryphos> erUSUL: what are you doing?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Narqulie,  its writeable by the root user only.  :)
[06:55] <jamx> im trying to install Herd 5, but it freezes at the "migrate documents/settings" point
[06:55] <rbil> printerproblems: it starts off placing things in dirs, and then eventually creates a deb from those dir/contents
[06:55] <dtolj> Narqulie: sudo pico Xorg.conf
[06:55] <Steve_C2> sigix, the access log looks good. It appears the printer install was successfull. The error log however has several errors. I copied a small portion, should I paste it here?
[06:55] <lorenz> guys, i need quick help please'
[06:55] <printerproblems> rbil, how long can that take?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ffxr,  lp = line printer, rtc = real time clock, (i think) spb2 = not sure.. :)
[06:55] <xelados> If I'm about to try dualboot again, should I disable my backup drive in my CMOS to ensure nothing gets installed to it, then re-enable it after the OSes are installed? I've had GRUB error 18s in the past..
[06:55] <apokryphos> lorenz: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[06:55] <lorenz> I ruined my xorg.conf file
[06:56] <rbil> printerproblems: I don't know exactly, but give it 10 minutes and see
[06:56] <lorenz> yes, I don
[06:56] <lorenz> believe it is in there
[06:56] <printerproblems> ok its already been like 15
[06:56] <lorenz> just, I ruined the xconf.file - now I cannot start ubuntu
[06:56] <printerproblems> and wont it show progress in the terminal
[06:56] <K3nto> !window
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <K3nto> !windows
[06:56] <Narqulie> Thanks dtolj Dr_willis and jamx :D
[06:56] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:56] <lorenz> I know what I did wrong, can I somehow open the xorg.conf and repair it
[06:56] <K3nto> heh
[06:57] <ffxr> ok thats two, ll have a look for spb2 in google .. thanks Dr_willis
[06:57] <K3nto> i was hoping for something cheeky
[06:57] <lorenz> please help me with that
[06:57] <dtolj> lorenz: Narqulie has same issue
[06:57] <jamx> blah this sucks
[06:57] <jamx> ..
[06:57] <rbil> printerproblems: been awhile, but no, I don't remember there being any indication of progress. It just eventually does it. Strange, but that's been my limited experience. I too thought it wasn't working, but eventually I had a deb
[06:57] <Steve_C2> lorenz, how about using a live cd?
[06:57] <lorenz> really
[06:57] <aLeJaNdRa> Hiiii
[06:57] <lorenz> yes, I am using it now, how can I access the file system
[06:57] <printerproblems> ok
[06:57] <sergo> hello; what i need to do to play cs 1.6 on ubuntu
[06:58] <Steve_C2> lorenz, I'm a linux newbie myself but I thought you could access the file system
[06:58] <lorenz> I hope so
[06:58] <aLeJaNdRa> somebody can  tellme how i can to talk wit somebody  in privacy
[06:58] <aLeJaNdRa> ?
[06:58] <lorenz> does anyone know how I can access the file system using the live cd
[06:58] <printerproblems> why cant a 64-bit system run 32-bit applications?
[06:58] <crdlb> aLeJaNdRa, /msg person message
[06:58] <printerproblems> cant it just use half the processor?
[06:58] <yipe> whenever I try to log into my edgy install, it tells me that "system is shutting down in one minute!"
[06:58] <HymnToLife[] > lorenz, just mount it
[06:58] <HymnToLife[] > like for any other filesystem
[06:59] <lorenz> how, hymn
[06:59] <dtolj> lorenz: can you mount it goto Administration->Disks
[06:59] <yipe> this is right after a reboot
[06:59] <HymnToLife[] > lorenz, with the mount command :)
[06:59] <lorenz> admin, then disk
[06:59] <lorenz> I dont find disks there
[06:59] <rbil> printerproblems: because the bytes are different sizes, so the whole binary is different
[07:00] <shark-1> im in dire need of help :(
[07:00] <Steve_C2> lorenz, can you get to where it says storage? if so you should be able to see your disks and then right click and select mount
[07:00] <shark-1> i cant install ubuntu and ive been trying for an entire week
[07:00] <crdlb> lorenz, when you start ubuntu press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[07:00] <Steve_C2> sigix, any ideas on my printer woes?
[07:00] <tt1> b
[07:00] <printerproblems> rbil, so if i run 32-bit my processor will still run at the same speed right?
[07:00] <lorenz> now I have one big black screen
[07:00] <shark-1> i get to the partitioning part of the install and it freezes when it begins partitioning the root filesystem
[07:01] <scizzy> ok guys I got a challenge for you... I'm very VERY new to ubuntu (from windows yesterday).  So I am just learning... I finally got my broadcom wireless working with ndiswrapper but I have to continuously open the terminal and type in "sudo depmod -a" and after that "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime I RESTART my laptop just to get the wireless working?  How can I have my settings saved how they are now so that when I turn it on, it works 
[07:01] <crdlb> lorenz, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:01] <Dr_willis> printerproblems,  yes. i run 32bit disrtos on all my 64bit machines
[07:01] <rbil> printerproblems: how long ago did u install 64-bit ubuntu? if you're just getting started, maybe spending a half hour and installing 32-bit version will save u much grief later?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> printerproblems,  no problems whatso ever.
[07:01] <shark-1> if someone could help me that would be wonderful
[07:01] <Dr_willis> printerproblems,  i see no reason for most people to use 64bit
[07:01] <printerproblems> ok, yea i just got 64-bit ubuntu yesterday
[07:01] <shmeel> !firewall
[07:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:01] <printerproblems> brand new on an athlon 64
[07:02] <rbil> printerproblems: well, now's the time to dump what u got and start over. won't take that long and you'll be happier in the long run
[07:02] <printerproblems> yeah your right
[07:02] <lorenz> now I have one big black screen
[07:02] <printerproblems> ill cya guys later
[07:02] <shark-1> any help me?
[07:02] <scizzy> I finally got my broadcom wireless working with ndiswrapper but I have to continuously open the terminal and type in "sudo depmod -a" and after that "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime I RESTART my laptop just to get the wireless working?  How can I have my settings saved how they are now so that when I turn it on, it works right away???
[07:02] <thomazzz> does anyone know how to change the refresh rate on a live cd?
[07:02] <Funcod> i have a question : why should i use ubuntu over pc-bsd?
[07:03] <shark-1> meh i may never get ubuntu working
[07:03] <Bublik> hello all, from cold siberia! ;)
[07:03] <K3nto> shark-1: try making another cd, and defragging
[07:03] <shark-1> how do i defrag
[07:03] <Steve_C2> lorenz, sorry I can't be of any more help. I'm going to leave the channel since I'm not getting any where on my printer issue. I'll try back later.
[07:03] <Joeeigel> Shark, are u using Windows?
[07:03] <K3nto> its a windows system too
[07:04] <shark-1> i have a live cd of dapper edgy and feisty none work
[07:04] <shark-1> no i dont use windows
[07:04] <tesuki__> on windows in firefox to go back in history i pressed backspace. what is the needed keystroke to acheve the same result?
[07:04] <Joeeigel> Then i cant help you Defrag
[07:04] <K3nto> mac?
[07:04] <poningru> shark-1: what are you trying to do?
[07:04] <Bublik> shark-1, windows - is a bad!
[07:04] <tesuki__> (on ubuntu with firefox)
[07:04] <scizzy> I finally got my broadcom wireless working with ndiswrapper but I have to continuously open the terminal and type in "sudo depmod -a" and after that "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime I RESTART my laptop just to get the wireless working?  How can I have my settings saved how they are now so that when I turn it on, it works right away???
[07:04] <shark-1> i was using edgy then tried to upgrade to feisty broke my system and tried to reinstall and now the partitioner stops at the root filesystem
[07:04] <shark-1> i dont use windows
[07:05] <Bublik> scizzy, card work in monitor mode?
[07:05] <shark-1> been trying with every version for a week
[07:05] <scizzy> whats monitor mode
[07:05] <shark-1> some reason they all freeze
[07:05] <scizzy> i just migrated from windows yesterday
[07:05] <Bublik> for sniff packats
[07:05] <Bublik> packets
[07:05] <K3nto> shark-1: ive never had to defrag in ubuntu
[07:05] <slavik> Bublik: ndiswrapper will never do monitor mode ...
[07:05] <scizzy> how do i use it
[07:05] <scizzy> ah
[07:05] <Bublik> slavik: xepobo! ;)
[07:06] <poningru> shark-1: you dont have to defrag any of the lin file systems
[07:06] <shark-1> its weird cuz i have never seen these before
[07:06] <scizzy> all I need to know is how the crap to save my settings or whatever so I dont have to input those 2 commands everytime
[07:06] <lorenz> guys, how can I change the xorg.conf in recovery mode
[07:06] <poningru> shark-1: this indeed is weird
[07:06] <lorenz> please help me, I cannot start ubuntu any more
[07:06] <shark-1> well how can i reinstall ubuntu
[07:06] <dtolj> lorenz: System->Administration->Disks
[07:06] <poningru> shark-1: have you tried an alternative cd?
[07:06] <slavik> scizzy: make a script :)
[07:06] <scizzy> haha
[07:06] <kane77> lorenz, reconfigure it?
[07:06] <shark-1> i have for feisty and it does the same thing
[07:06] <scizzy> isn't there a way that it should save in some file
[07:06] <shark-1> then just live cd's for dapper and edgy
[07:06] <Bublik> scizzy: use hand and head ;)
[07:06] <poningru> lorenz: are you at a command line?
[07:07] <dtolj> lorenz: the black screen is bash
[07:07] <slavik> scizzy: try sudo depmod -a ???
[07:07] <scizzy> well thats the thing, im very VERY computer savvy, but ubuntu (or any linux) uses a lot of things that I'm not used to... I'm so used to windows and just click on an exe to install and everything, now I gotta compile and stuff
[07:07] <Bublik> interesno, esli zdes napisat XYU, to zabanjat? ;)
[07:07] <scizzy> slavik, i do...
[07:07] <poningru> lorenz: login and type 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup0'
[07:07] <thomazzz> anyone know how to change the refresh rate in ubuntu?
[07:07] <slavik> scizzy: gentoo you have to compile and stuff
[07:07] <Dr_willis> 'used to windows is NOT 'computer savvy' ' heh heh
[07:07] <kuma> hi, is there a way to connect to a file server and edit source files online with my local text editor?
[07:07] <scizzy> slavic, i have to type that in everytime when I start my pc to get the wireless working, i dont want to do that
[07:07] <dtolj> lorenz: do you have backup of Xorg.conf
[07:08] <scizzy> i mean i build computers and stuff like that, i know my way around
[07:08] <poningru> lorenz: then type 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:08] <shark-1> im trying dapper right now
[07:08] <lorenz> yes, shoudl have
[07:08] <Dr_willis> with linux - its all about learning the fundamentals. :) the rest is easy
[07:08] <slavik> scizzy: in ubuntu, you open synaptic, search for what you need and install, without the need to search for some weird program through google
[07:08] <woz1> hola
[07:08] <shark-1> just got it to boot the live cd
[07:08] <lorenz> now I tried reconfigure-xorg
[07:08] <jikbag> i am using beryl on edgy.  new windows are getting placed on the bottom.  how do i set new windows to be placed on top?
[07:08] <thomazzz> do you guys know anything?
[07:08] <poningru> !beryl | jikbag
[07:08] <slavik> thomazzz: no
[07:08] <ubotu> jikbag: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:08] <shark-1> jikbag #beryl
[07:08] <scizzy> slavic, so what could i use... any suggestions, and what for
[07:08] <poningru> scizzy: hold on
[07:08] <scizzy> ok
[07:08] <scizzy> thx guys so far
[07:09] <shmeel> jikbag
[07:09] <jikbag> shmeel
[07:09] <Bublik> mans, if i wanna view shadow from windows - what i use?
[07:09] <shmeel> go to the main menu for beryl
[07:09] <Funcod> im asking it again
[07:09] <Funcod> i have a question : why should i use ubuntu over pc-bsd?
[07:09] <kuma> anybody here knows how can I minimize the XChat to the tray?
[07:09] <scizzy> (now i just have to google and figure out how to get my native windows resolution back 1280x800)
[07:09] <slavik> scizzy: depends on what you need to do
[07:09] <bernard1> Can anyone help a beginner with ndiswrapper for Ubuntu? If so PLEASE pm me.
[07:09] <slavik> kuma: check the settings in xchat
[07:09] <shark-1> kuma click the icon
[07:09] <shark-1> in the try
[07:09] <shmeel> jikbag, then go to level of focus stealing
[07:09] <shmeel> and change it to none
[07:09] <poningru> !resolution | scizzy
[07:09] <ubotu> scizzy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:09] <Bublik> scizzy, apt-get install 915resolution
[07:09] <poningru> bernard1: hold on
[07:09] <slavik> scizzy: ati video card?
[07:09] <dtolj> kuma: double click titlebar
[07:09] <rbil> Funcod: because distros that start with a "u" sound nicer than ones that start with a "p"
[07:10] <scizzy> I just need something that will keep me from avoiding typing "sudo depmod -a" and "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime
[07:10] <lorenz> thank you guys, worked
[07:10] <bernard1> Ok poningru
[07:10] <mike1o> is there a way to install kvirc 3.x ?
[07:10] <kuma> sslavik hark-1 dtolj thanks
[07:10] <Funcod> rbil
[07:10] <scizzy> no i have some basic sis one in my emachines m5405
[07:10] <Funcod> ur funny ? :)
[07:10] <jikbag> shmeel: what is taht under? window management? visual effects?
[07:10] <mike1o> !italian
[07:10] <shark-1> kuma np
[07:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:10] <slavik> scizzy: like I said before, write a script and make it run on boot up or when you login
[07:10] <shmeel> the first window that shows up when you open window manager
[07:10] <shmeel> it's adropdown menu
[07:10] <jikbag> shmeel: ok
[07:10] <Funcod> i mean whats better in ubuntu? compared to pc-bsd ?
[07:10] <scizzy> slavik, i dont know how to write a script
[07:11] <scizzy> let alone make it run on boot
[07:11] <shark-1> froze at 11% again
[07:11] <shark-1> i may have to go to windows
[07:11] <Bublik> Funcod, ubuntu best! ;)
[07:11] <slavik> scizzy: first like is '#!/bin/sh' then every line is a command you do :)
[07:11] <Funcod> why?
[07:11] <poningru> scizzy: http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/
[07:11] <rbil> Funcod: people here run Ubuntu. I've never run pc-bsd, and you want a comparision?
[07:11] <kuma> hi, is there a way to connect to a server and edit source files with my local text editor?
[07:11] <Bublik> Funcod, pc-bas its BSD for kiddy!
[07:11] <poningru> bernard1: whats the trouble?
[07:11] <Funcod> lol
[07:11] <Funcod> i wanted arguments :)
[07:11] <Bublik> Funcod, yes ;)
[07:11] <poningru> kuma: how are you trying to connect?
[07:11] <Bublik> Funcod, no arguments!
[07:12] <slavik> save and make it chmod +x, then add the full file path into ~/.profile
[07:12] <slippyr4> kuma: yes, if you were to use samba, or nfs, or similar, to mount some shared bit of the server on your local filesystem
[07:12] <jikbag> shmeel: found it, THANK YOU!
[07:12] <bernard1> poningru: Is this tutorial accurate? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Install
[07:12] <Bublik> Funcod, pc-bas its bad clone of freebsd
[07:12] <Funcod> k
[07:12] <shark-1> does anyone know why my linux install freezes when creating the / filesystem
[07:12] <slippyr4> shark-l freezes for how long?
[07:12] <kuma> poningru: dunno, normaly i use a FTP Client and duplicate my online files locally, and upload anything i edit.
[07:12] <poningru> bernard1: yes but first can I ask couple of questions?
[07:12] <dan_k> can someone help me plz?
[07:12] <Bublik> shark-1, maybe bad blocks?
[07:12] <bernard1> Yes poningru
[07:12] <poningru> bernard1: which card do you have?
[07:13] <poningru> as in which chipset?
[07:13] <shark-1> Bublik, what would i do in that case?
[07:13] <bernard1> One moment
[07:13] <Bublik> shark-1, maybe
[07:13] <dan_k> can someone help me
[07:13] <dan_k> i got a problem
[07:13] <Bublik> dan_k?
[07:13] <dan_k> before installing linux
[07:13] <Xenguy> kuma: you can ssh into a remote server and edit files (this is a command-line approach)...
[07:13] <kuma> slippyr4: can you tell me more about it? where can I found information to use those? does this works in any server or the server must have samba support?
[07:13] <dan_k> i have wireless internet
[07:13] <shark-1> this channel needs a ticket system
[07:13] <Joeeigel> Good Dan.
[07:14] <Xenguy> kuma: also some editors (vim, emacs) can edit remote files
[07:14] <dan_k> so i have to install a program from netgear
[07:14] <bernard1> poningru: I'm unsure how to check this.
[07:14] <Joeeigel> Yes shark, it does
[07:14] <dan_k> but is for windows 2003 or WINxp
[07:14] <kuma> Xenguy: but i can't use my local text editor (like Kate) to edit them, or can i?
[07:14] <poningru> !sshd | kuma
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <poningru> bernard1: whats the brand of you card?
[07:14] <shark-1> cuz lots of people have problems but half dont get help
[07:14] <NickGarvey> !ssh | kuma
[07:14] <ubotu> kuma: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:14] <bernard1> My wireless adapter is SMC
[07:14] <dan_k> mine is a usb adapter
[07:14] <slippyr4> kuma: the server would need samba support.
[07:14] <poningru> bernard1: what is the model number?
[07:14] <Joeeigel> Shark, yesterday, i got help, but there was so many people asking, i didnt notice it
[07:15] <kuma> ubotu, ok i'll read those
[07:15] <slippyr4> kuma: alternatives are to download the files with sftp or scp, edit them, then reupload
[07:15] <slavik> kuma: you answered to a bot :)
[07:15] <Xenguy> kuma: only if your local Kate has the ability to edit files remotely
[07:15] <poningru> Xenguy: thats kde he is probably running gnome
[07:15] <kuma> slippyr4: yes, that's my current approach, i want to change it
[07:15] <bernard1> SMC2862W-G
[07:15] <bernard1> If thats not what you're looking for, I can give you my serial # and a link to the website where you enter it
[07:16] <Xenguy> poningru: he mentioned kate specifically
[07:16] <jikbag> did they decide to use compiz or beryl for feisty?
[07:16] <poningru> bernard1: can you run this on a command line: lspci -v
[07:16] <bernard1> sure
[07:16] <poningru> and then look for your model number
[07:16] <slavik> jikbag: beryl I think
[07:16] <shark-1> i have been trying to install ubuntu for a week but no matter what version it freezes when its partitioning my root filesystem what do i do?
[07:16] <poningru> er wifi card
[07:17] <poningru> shark-1: my guess is install it on the full hard drive instead of going to partitioner
[07:17] <slippyr4> shark-l do you get any kernel messages in one of the console screens? or, get a terminal and dmesg,
[07:17] <jikbag> slavik: i know they were leaning toward beyrl, but i saw something the other day that said compiz was the choice
[07:17] <shark-1> poningru, i did
[07:17] <shark-1> slippyr4, ?
[07:17] <bernard1> poningru: I'm on Windows at the moment
[07:17] <poningru> bernard1: oh...
[07:17] <poningru> bernard1: hold on then
[07:17] <kuma> Xenguy: how can i check if my kate has online files support?
[07:17] <poningru> I gotta research
[07:17] <shark-1> slippyr4, the kernel is fine it doesnt error when loading
[07:18] <bernard1> Ok
[07:18] <bernard1> This is very appreciated
[07:18] <thcmonkey> anyone know where i can get some decent icons?
[07:18] <slippyr4> shark-1: no. but many disk drivers report disk errors when they occur. you using graphical or text install?
[07:18] <xamox> can I have just tasks shown on my task bar per desktop (I'm running beryl)
[07:18] <shark-1> slippyr4, graphical
[07:18] <bernard1> shark-1: If all else fails, try re-burning.
[07:18] <thcmonkey> wish i could run beryl :(
[07:19] <Xenguy> kuma: check this out: http://www.nuxified.org/article/remote_file_management_with_kate_and_konqueror
[07:19] <shark-1> bernard1, i have burn 4 cds and used 1 from ubuntu
[07:19] <Friar> Speaking of compiz/beryl... anybody else run into this problem? I tried out Feisty Herd 5 on two of my machines, and when I turn on Desktop Effects, the wobbly nonsense seems to work fine, but none of the contents of my windows display. I saw a bug report on launchpad that sounded roughly similar, but not much in the way of confirmation or any talk of workarounds.
[07:19] <shark-1> bernard1, all fail
[07:19] <slippyr4> shark-1 : start a new console and type dmesg, press enter. any disk IO related errors listed?
[07:19] <bernard1> Interesting, I'm not sure then - stick with someone else :)
[07:19] <kuma> Xenguy, wow, thanks
[07:20] <shark-1> slippyr4, lemme get it booted again then i will
[07:20] <Xenguy> kuma: yw (I googled for 'kate edit remote file')
[07:20] <emet> is compiz more stable then beryl ?
[07:20] <i> how i can play me program?plese help me
[07:20] <slippyr4> also shark-1: are you making the filesystem yourself (perhaps in gparted) or is the installer doing it for you?
[07:21] <dk321> hi
[07:21] <shark-1> slippyr4, the installer has done it for me but after it has been crashing i have tried to do it
[07:21] <slippyr4> i: what's the problem
[07:21] <dk321> i am having problems with connecting to the internet with linux :(
[07:21] <slippyr4> shark-1 and it's just the same?
[07:21] <dk321> i got a wireless internet
[07:21] <dk321> and the adapter is USB
[07:21] <shark-1> slippyr4, yup
[07:21] <ikonia> !wireless >dk321
[07:22] <dk321> !wireless
[07:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:22] <rbil> shark-1: what kind of hard drive is it. only one?
[07:22] <slippyr4> shark-1 ok. restart and have another go, and look at dmesg
[07:22] <Friar> sorry, power surge knocked me off for a bit... if anybody responded, I didn't get it
[07:22] <shark-1> rbil, its a seagate 300g and its the only hd i have
[07:22] <rbil> shark-1: sata, ata?
[07:23] <rbil> shark-1: any existing partitions on it?
[07:23] <mitsuhiko> hoi
[07:23] <tabman> can I play .rm files in ubuntu ?
[07:23] <shark-1> rbil, no existing partitions and its sata
[07:23] <mitsuhiko> anyone here using an ati card and has got compiz working?
[07:24] <crdlb> !restrictedcodecs | tabman
[07:24] <Scunizi> shark-1: what file system are you trying to use?
[07:24] <shark-1> Scunizi, ext3
[07:24] <shark-1> Scunizi, thats what ive used before
[07:24] <mag_> helllo, when i boot with a usb-disk plugged in the system hangs, how can i solve this ?
[07:24] <up365> tabman, I play .rm files with Realplayer
[07:24] <Scunizi> shark-1: I had problems with Sata and ext3.  Switched to ReiserFS and worked fine.
[07:24] <Friar> mitsuhiko -- I was actually just asking a question about that -- what happens when you try?
[07:24] <slippyr4> mag_ hangs how? does linux at least partially start? and errors?
[07:25] <shark-1> mag_ i had that unplug the drive when starting up
[07:25] <tabman> up365: real player through Wine ?
[07:25] <slippyr4> scunizi: the filesystem and the physical interface type are totally unrelated
[07:25] <mitsuhiko> Friar: well. last time i tried which was. hmm. about two months ago i just wasn't able to load the composite extension
[07:25] <mitsuhiko> afair that doesn't work with fglrx
[07:25] <up365> tabman, no I have Realplayer thru ubuntu
[07:25] <ffxr> hi i wanna reconfigue xserver but not the gfx card part just the monitor section is there a switch or something i can add to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to achieve this?
[07:26] <Scunizi> Shark-1: slippyr4: your right... is the SATA on the "0" connector or "1" connector and how is the bios set.
[07:26] <mag_> shark-1, well thats very inconvienient , but thqts what i am doing for now ... but a solution should look different
[07:26] <tabman> up365: what is the package name for real player ?
[07:26] <mag_> slippyr4, well the system starts to boot and after 5s it hangs
[07:26] <slippyr4> scunizi: "0" connector? "1" connector?
[07:26] <shark-1> Scunizi, i dunno
[07:27] <slippyr4> mag_ do you see anything to do with linux? or is it just your bios stuff ?
[07:27] <TKitch> Hello :)
[07:27] <mag_> well grub loads and than i start to boot the kernel
[07:27] <jontec> how do I add a monitor? like... clone my desktop display?
[07:27] <slippyr4> shark-1: try it again, look for any block device errors in dmesg
[07:27] <mag_> and i get  a lot of usb related messages
[07:27] <codecaine> whats a good program to stream mp3s so you friends can listen to what your listening to on a webbrowser?
[07:27] <jontec> I don't see it in administration or preferences
[07:28] <slippyr4> mag_ : are you using edgy or dapper
[07:28] <Friar> mitsuhiko: I'm running Feisty Herd 5 right now on two different machines, one has a Radeon 9500 and the other has a Mobility Radeon X600... Herd 5's got an option called "Desktop Effects" which as far as I can tell is using Compiz. It starts up, and some of the eyecandy works (wobbly windows and such) but the contents of my windows don't seem to redraw properly.
[07:28] <codecaine> jontec under system
[07:28] <yipe> whenever I try to log into edgy, it tells me that the computer will be shutting down in one minute
[07:28] <crdlb> codecaine, mpd + icecast
[07:28] <mag_> codecaine, gnump3d is the thing you are looking for
[07:28] <up365> tabman, I got downloaded linux version
[07:28] <codecaine> ty
[07:28] <yipe> it never does actually shut down
[07:28] <Friar> I can see the contents of the windows when I resize or the like, but it doesn't continue to update. It set me up with the "ati" xorg driver by default.
[07:28] <TKitch> I'm having some Keyboard issues, even before I can install Ubuntu.
[07:28] <shark-1> slippyr4, when i type dmesg all this stuff goes down the screen fast
[07:28] <jontec> codecaine: umm... I don't see it in system > preferences or system > administration
[07:28] <shark-1> slippyr4, too fast to read
[07:29] <mitsuhiko> Friar: i'm still using edgy here
[07:29] <slippyr4> shark-1: yeah, but any errors would be at or near the end.so just look at the end stuff when it's finished
[07:29] <mag_> slippyr4, edgy
[07:29] <ernz> Hi, I rebooted my PC today and found that my xserver has died. I has to sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg to "nv" drivers to get it to work again. Has anyone else experienced this after the restricted-modules update, or is it just me?
[07:29] <mitsuhiko> too lazy to upgrade :)
[07:29] <jontec> I need my monitor. T_T
[07:29] <Scunizi> slippyr4:  the motherboard typically has two connectors for the SATA drive.  One is primary and the other secondary.  Sometimes it's hard to tell the differance.  With only one drive the computer default to it.  W/ Ubuntu or Linux it's better to have the drive in the primary typically labeled 0 (zero)
[07:29] <codecaine> jontec you using gnome
[07:29] <codecaine> what are you trying to do?
[07:29] <jontec> codecaine: yes... trying to connect a monitor to my system
[07:30] <Divid_80> hola
[07:30] <slippyr4> scunizi: there is no concept of primary or secondary in SATA. the interfaces are all distinct. There may be 0, 1, 2 4 or even 8 of them
[07:30] <Friar> mitsuhiko: If you're curious and have the time/bandwidth to spare, you might download the herd 5 cd and just run it as a livecd. That's how I checked initially. Probably not worth doing a full install until the real deal's actually released. Not too far off now.
[07:30] <alecjw> hi. i have a SATA hard drive. what modules might i need to drive it?
[07:30] <slippyr4> mag_ can you boot *without* the usb stuck in?
[07:30] <mitsuhiko> Friar: 3d effects work from the live cd?
[07:30] <mag_> slippyr4, yes works fine
[07:30] <rbil> codecaine: http://customdesign.homelinux.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=151&highlight=stream#151
[07:30] <Scunizi> slippyr4: Yep.. but it made a difference on my system... maybe his too.
[07:31] <TKitch> I'm having trouble with the LiveCD.  I boot off of it, and it the keyboard does not respond.  (The system reads it, and I can three finger salute it, but in menu it does not respond.)
[07:31] <up365> tabman, Realplayer 10 for linux
[07:31] <ernz> Can someone (anyone) please give me a negatory on my question, so I can confirm it is my own screw up and not the fault of an update.
[07:31] <Friar> mitsuhiko: barring the aforementioned problems, yeah. I guess you could say the 3d works, but the 2d doesn't ;)
[07:31] <slippyr4> mag_ when you try to boot from the USB, when it hangs, does it say something about waiting for root filesystem? or a kernel-panic, unable to find root fs?
[07:32] <mitsuhiko> Friar: haha
[07:32] <tabman> I just installed installed java5, where is it installed ?
[07:32] <shark-1> slippyr4, none
[07:32] <jontec> I need to use my monitor (actually it's a TV) how do I setup the connection... I cannot find it in gnome like I would in KDE
[07:32] <Scunizi> slippyr4:  I missed which version he's trying to install.. w/ Dapper you had to do something special.  I may have a reference for it if he's using Dapper
[07:32] <Scunizi> slippyr4:  that is with SATA
[07:33] <shark-1> scunizi, i tried dapper feisty edgy
[07:33] <mag_> slippyr4, no i am not booting from it . and it somehow starts to start linux ... well I will try again to get the excqct error ... one second
[07:33] <Narqulie> Ok.. Now.. How can I undo , let's say, the installation on new Ati drivers?
[07:34] <Narqulie> Is there a whole system rollback-thingie?
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Narqulie,  no.
[07:34] <Narqulie> Bloody hell :)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Narqulie,  apt-get remove whatever.. :) or just edit the xorg.conf to use the other drivers
[07:35] <yomm> Evenin' !
[07:35] <yipe> wow, Dapper < Edgy.... please someone help me get back to my edgy install!
[07:35] <Devy> is there a way to get the native resolution away?
[07:35] <slippyr4> !hello | yomm
[07:35] <dxdemetriou> I have problem with nvidia's opengl, and I found that the problem is with apt-index-watcher. the problem is when I work opengl works for 5 seconds, stop for 1 and repeats. Is it ok to kill the apt-index-watcher?
[07:35] <ubotu> yomm: hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[07:35] <shark-1> anyway i got to shower i will be back
[07:35] <yipe> whenever I try to log in it tells me that the computer will be shutting down in one minute
[07:35] <up365> Afternoon !
[07:35] <Narqulie> Thanks Dr_willis
[07:36] <Scunizi> shark-1:  With dapper there were release notes for the Desktop cd.  After booting the live cd, go to terminal and type (sudo /etc/init.d/mdadm stop) then (sudo mdadm --stop --scan) then (sudo vgchange -a n).  I found this info in teh release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[07:36] <yipe> but when a minute comes and goes, it doesn't actually shut down
[07:36] <yomm> slippy :) loll
[07:36] <slippyr4> heh
[07:36] <Enselic``> Isn't there a good Webcam recording app for Ubuntu?
[07:37] <Friar> mitsuhiko: Actually, now that I poke around a bit more, only the wobbly windows thing works... the "workspaces on a cube" option doesn't appear to actually do anything.
[07:37] <ffxr> hi i wanna reconfigure xserver but not the gfx card part just the monitor section; is there a switch or something i can use with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to achieve this?
[07:37] <mitsuhiko> Friar: well. i don't want the effects
[07:37] <TKitch> Anyone think they could help on a Keyboard issue?
[07:37] <mitsuhiko> but i want a semitransparent window handle
[07:38] <Friar> yeah, that appears to work fine for me
[07:38] <TommyBJ> TKitch: What seems to be the problem?
[07:38] <slippyr4> ffxr : i don't know, but you could make a backup of your xorg.conf, then reconfig, then restore the old xorg.conf and copy the new monitor section into it
[07:39] <TKitch> TommyBJ:  I boot off the LiveCD  (*Fresh DL today) and when it boots to the menu to let me install it, the keyboard does not respond.
[07:39] <sgentry6> anyone have any luck getting the netgear WG111US working on 6.10?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 says that it is supported out of the box, but I am unable to get an ip
[07:39] <TKitch> PS/2 Keybd
[07:39] <ffxr> ahhh clever slippyr4... ithanks : )
[07:39] <TommyBJ> TKitch: Have you tried it in a terminal?
[07:39] <TommyBJ> TKitch: As in - starting the system without X
[07:39] <ikonia> where is the file --> application association menu
[07:39] <TKitch> TommyBJ:
[07:40] <Scunizi> Enselic:  Check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362795&highlight=screen+capture
[07:40] <TKitch> Haven't tried.  The CD goes straight to X.  What's the key to skip to terminal?
[07:40] <slippyr4> System | Preferences | preferred applications
[07:40] <rockz> someone use monkey messenger? http://monkeymessenger.sourceforge.net/
[07:40] <up365> Enselic``, MPlayer with MEncoder according to Comm Ubuntu Docs
[07:40] <slippyr4> @ ikonia
[07:40] <Enselic``> Scunizi: ty
[07:40] <Enselic``> up365: I've got that up and running, but its not very convenient
[07:40] <slippyr4> oops
[07:40] <ikonia> slippyr4: I found that but it only has interenet and terminal options
[07:40] <slippyr4> not that
[07:40] <TommyBJ> TKitch: Well... if your keyboard was working, it would be CTRL + ALT + F1 for instance... But since it doesn't you have to choose a boot option
[07:40] <ikonia> slippyr4: ha ha, I thought not
[07:41] <james296> is there any alternative sites to gaming.gwos.org?
[07:41] <james296> since that has been hacked
[07:41] <ikonia> james296: whats that got to do with ubuntu ?
[07:41] <TKitch> TommyBJ:  Is that an option on the LiveCD?
[07:41] <james296> ummm, its a site meant for Ubuntu?
[07:41] <james296> thats one thing
[07:41] <james296> where else would I talk about this?
[07:41] <ikonia> james296: this is ubuntu support
[07:41] <Enselic``> Scunizi: ehm, though that's not what I asked for :/ and btw, recordMyDesktop is the best screengrabber ;)
[07:42] <TommyBJ> TKitch: Yes. While booting you will be presented whith a few options. I belive it's somethnig like 'rescue' or alike.
[07:43] <ikonia> slippyr4: any thoughts ?
[07:43] <Scunizi> Enselilc:  I think the program will allow you to draw a box around what you want to grab and record everything that happens in it... maybe even video
[07:43] <slippyr4> ikonia: you can do it the klunky way through nautilus
[07:43] <ikonia> slippyr4: ahhh good cool
[07:43] <ikonia> didn't think of that
[07:43] <slippyr4> ikonia: right click on a file, "Open with"
[07:43] <ikonia> thank you
[07:43] <TKitch> TommyBJ:  It goes from post to the "Install Ubuntu" screen.  That's where I have no keyboard.
[07:43] <up365> Enselic``, if you dont mind , whats your webcam?
[07:43] <slippyr4> ikonia: which is fine for one type of file
[07:44] <mag_> ok i rebooted and found out when it hangs ... and it boots if i unplug the disk ... so i have a dmesg output now ...
[07:44] <TommyBJ> TKitch: "post" ?
[07:44] <jo_> hello, can somebody help me fast with intel graphicscard 915 and tv-out?
[07:44] <scizzy> ok i got my res. fixed.. can someone walk me through on how to make a script to load at boottime
[07:44] <Scunizi> Enselic:  Sorry I referanced the wrong link.. the program is xvidcap .. see ..http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52365&highlight=screen+capture
[07:44] <Enselic``> up365: Creative
[07:44] <TommyBJ> TKitch: So you do have the keyboard working in X, but it stops after a certain point?
[07:44] <TKitch> no
[07:44] <TKitch> Once Linux starts (at all) the keyboard's gone.
[07:44] <Enselic``> Scunizi: I'm not looking for screencapture, and again, recordMyDesktop is the best one! I'm looking for webcam recorders GUIs
[07:44] <TKitch> I can only 3 finger salute
[07:44] <ikonia> slippyr4: ahhhh thats not quite going to work for me
[07:45] <Enselic``> up365: why do you wonder?
[07:45] <TommyBJ> TKitch: And it works in the boot menu, right?
[07:45] <slippyr4> mag_ but did you see any errors at the point it hung?
[07:45] <Scunizi> Enselic:  you're only looking at the search part of the httP address.  take a look at the thread
[07:45] <tiHo>    :)
[07:45] <TKitch> TommyBJ:  No, I can't even use it there.
[07:45] <up365> Enselic``, USB ? did it work out the box? Sorry for all the questions ,I know you came looking for answers
[07:45] <slippyr4> ikonia why?
[07:46] <TommyBJ> TKitch: Well.. Then it's either a keyboard bug or a setting in the BIOS.
[07:46] <TommyBJ> TKitch: Or just a very wierd keyboard ;)
[07:46] <Enselic``> up365: np      yeah, USB, it works with mplayer, but the colors are bland, and Camorama appears to view in YUV when the camera sends in RGB, yeah, its USB
[07:46] <ikonia> slippyr4: as I'm not downloading the file locally I'm opening it from the internet. Plus I could do with setting it globally for that file type rather than right clicking on each file
[07:46] <jo_> tiHo: did you that?
[07:46] <TKitch> TommyBJ:  Thanks.  *wanders into the BIOS*  (I've tried 3 keyboards.  Both as PS/2 and with a USB adapter)
[07:46] <tiHo> jo_  > hi
[07:46] <yomm> How would I setup the Volume & media keys on my keyboard , they are not recognized ...
[07:47] <Kuba> hello can anyone tell me how to generate "initrd" after I compiled my kernel?
[07:47] <TommyBJ> yomm: System -> Settings -> Keyboard shortcuts
[07:47] <up365> Enselic``, wondering because got this Logitech Quickcam and still working on it
[07:47] <slippyr4> ikonia: have a look at /usr/share/applications/defaults.lsit
[07:47] <ikonia> Kuba: you should know if you're building you kernel
[07:47] <ikonia> slippyr4: big thanks
[07:47] <slippyr4> ikonia: oops, .list, not .lsit
[07:47] <yomm> Tommy , I'm not running gnome
[07:47] <ikonia> no problem, I got you
[07:47] <TommyBJ> yomm: What are you running, then?
[07:47] <Kuba> but i don't know
[07:47] <TommyBJ> yomm: Plan9? :)
[07:47] <chamberlain> hello everyone
[07:47] <yomm> Tommy ; xorg + icewm
[07:48] <Kuba> can anybody help me?
[07:48] <mag_> slippyr4, yes - well actually there is no error
[07:48] <}btorch{> hello
[07:48] <TommyBJ> Kuba: I belive its well described if you just google for it.
[07:48] <Enselic``> up365: try this:      mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:device=/dev/video:width=320:height=240
[07:48] <chamberlain> kuba, i just got here, whats your question?
[07:48] <dtolj> Kuba: try #ubuntu-kernel
[07:48] <slippyr4> mag_ did it say anything about root filesystems?
[07:48] <mag_> slippyr4, i get : [17179576.628000]  hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found   [17179576.628000]  hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected
[07:48] <Scunizi> Enselic``: try this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375043&highlight=video+capture
[07:48] <jo_> !botsnack
[07:48] <ikonia> dtolj: is that a real channel ?
[07:48] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:48] <dtolj> ikonia: yea
[07:48] <ikonia> interesting. Thank you
[07:49] <slippyr4> mag_ perhaps pastebin your dmesg output, and highlight where it hung
[07:49] <slippyr4> ikonia: that file == interesting?
[07:49] <Kuba> i built my kernel now i have only to generate initrd.what i have to type in bash?
[07:49] <ikonia> no, the channel ubuntu-kernel
[07:49] <oem__> hi im wondering if anyone can help with my problem with downloading drivers for my dvd/rw
[07:49] <ikonia> Kuba: you hve just been suggested where to go
[07:49] <Enselic``> Scunizi: thanks, but I already have it working in mplayer, but I'm looking for something more advanced
[07:49] <Enselic``> up365: did it work?
[07:49] <up365> Enselic``, I cant get past the error "check your connection" so I dont even have a picture yet
[07:50] <slippyr4> kuba: update-initramfs -u
[07:50] <mag_> slippyr4, than it hangs and when i unplug the disk it continues with : [17179577.524000]  PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:1c.3 (0000 -> 0002) [17179577.524000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1c.3[D]  -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 193  [17179577.524000]  ehci_hcd 0000:00:1c.3: EHCI Host Controller [17179577.524000]  ehci_hcd 0000:00:1c.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
[07:50] <ikonia> !pastebin >mag_
[07:50] <Kuba> "mkinitrd" isn't working
[07:50] <dazjorz> Hi
[07:50] <oem__> i do have the installation cd
[07:50] <ikonia> Kuba: are you listening - you've been suggested where to do
[07:50] <dazjorz> Is it normal that the Ubuntu installation freezes at 53%? I just burned the cd.
[07:50] <ikonia> dazjorz: nope
[07:50] <dazjorz> It happened to me twice
[07:50] <Scunizi> What web cams are people using that are plug and play in Dapper?
[07:51] <j1gs4w> !wireless
[07:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:51] <slippyr4> mag_ it's not what i thought it might be then. ooi, can you access that usb key if you plug it in after you've booted?
[07:51] <dazjorz> Maybe I'll just reburn the CD and try with that
[07:51] <ikonia> Scunizi: check out compatable ones on a site like linuxcompatible.com
[07:51] <yomm> dazjorz : did you MD5 check your CD ?
[07:52] <yomm> it's good practice :)
[07:52] <up365> Scunizi, there is a hardware compatible list at Linux USB
[07:52] <shark-1> slippyr4, i was thinking maybe i need to blow my computer out with canned air
[07:52] <dazjorz> yomm: Actually, no, I'll try that
[07:52] <chamberlain> hello, anybody know how to set it so you i could make my sound cards line in not be muted when i boot up?
[07:52] <thee3> is there any way i can use the inbuilt ubuntu usb dsl modem driver with windows?
[07:52] <yomm> chamberlain : using alsa ?
[07:52] <Scunizi> up365: ikonia: ty
[07:53] <slippyr4> shark1: perhaps try to manually put the FS on the disk from a console? do you know how to do that?
[07:53] <chamberlain> yomm : when i boot up i have to open up the sound application thing, dont know what its called, to unmute it
[07:54] <scizzy> alright guys i have a very simple question, is it possible to scroll through workspaces...
[07:54] <shark-1> maybe i will just forget about ubuntu and install vista
[07:54] <chamberlain> dont ever say that shark-1!
[07:54] <scizzy> is it possible to scroll through workspaces... ?
[07:55] <chamberlain> no idea scizzy
[07:55] <scizzy> damn, thanks
[07:55] <shark-1> well right now i am having too much trouble with ubuntu and i cant run photoshop and meh
[07:55] <Originoo> scizzy: use mouseover and scroll
[07:55] <scizzy> oooo thanks
[07:55] <sgentry6> anyone able to get a wireless usb card with the rtl8187 chipset working?  The notes on it say that it's supported out of the box, but I can't get an ip address
[07:55] <chamberlain> shark-1 : that really sucks!
[07:55] <scizzy> now if only it worked on the desktop too
[07:55] <thee3> scizzy: ctrl+tab+ arrow key
[07:56] <shark-1> then i can install vista and run that for photoshop then maybe i could eventually come back to ubuntu
[07:56] <oem__>  im wondering if anyone can help with my problem with downloading drivers for my dvd/rw
[07:56] <sgentry6> sorry I meant usb wireless adapter, not usb card
[07:57] <chamberlain> sgentry ; sorry, i have only used wireless with ndiswrapper
[07:57] <sergo> hello
[07:57] <chamberlain> hello sergo
[07:57] <K3nto> !screensaver
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <agliv> Greetings all :)
[07:57] <sergo> how to create torrent file , my bit torrent client can't create itself
[07:57] <K3nto> !screensavers
[07:57] <sergo> =[
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <sgentry6> Im really hoping to avoid ndiswrapper, but I realize that I may have to do it
[07:57] <chamberlain> sergo, use azureus
[07:57] <agliv> Any HD / BIOS freaks spooking bout?
[07:58] <mag_> slippyr4, yes - do you still want me to paste my dmesg output ?
[07:58] <Originoo> http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/
[07:58] <sergo> chamberlain it's seems that azureus slow my system ..
[07:58] <chamberlain> sgentry : thats all ive ever used
[07:58] <slippyr4> mag_ no need
[07:58] <agliv> sergo: azureus uses much memory
[07:58] <sgentry6> I see the device being plugged in and pulled out in dmesg, and I saw where it was attempting to link with my ssid under dmesg (I would have assumed that it would have tried to link with my ap)
[07:58] <sergo> i'm currently use deluge -)
[07:59] <mag_> slippyr4, its  a fat fs might that be a problem ?
[07:59] <slippyr4> mag_ it should not matter in the slightest
[07:59] <Lazergunz> :) Hey guys, what did you have to type in the terminal, for it to run the application so you could add new screen resolutions, and keymaps etc? >.<
[07:59] <agliv> sergo: what is deluge?
[08:00] <sergo> agliv: bittorrent client ! :)
[08:00] <Scunizi> agliv: what's up
[08:00] <Deep`> !deluge
[08:00] <slippyr4> sgentry6 : i've not read into your problem here much, but i'm getting on pretty well with the network manager approach to wireless over here. Follow one of the WPA howtos
[08:00] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[08:00] <yeniklasor> How to set encoding? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2240160#post2240160
[08:00] <jojoman02> how do i backup my home folder?
[08:00] <mag_> i tought so but actually something is not working betwenn loading of usb and loading of usb mass storage ...
[08:00] <jojoman02> is there a program?
[08:00] <Andy50> so I reloaded one of my computers from CentOS to ubuntu, everything went fine, but I have a couple of extra HD in there and can't get them to mount
[08:00] <Andy50> any ideas?
[08:00] <Deep`> jojoman02, cp? (:
[08:00] <oem__> anyone please help having trouble with dvdrw driver not installing
[08:00] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  edit the fstab to mount them correctly ? or are you talking about a deeper prob lem?
[08:01] <agliv> Scunizi: Hi not too much, trying to help someone out
[08:01] <slippyr4> mag_ maybe your stick is a bit knackered
[08:01] <jojoman02> Deep`: nah i don't wanna do that, too many copy/permissions errors
[08:01] <mag_> jojoman02,  did you hear about the amazing power of apt-cache search ?
[08:01] <yeniklasor> !anyone
[08:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:01] <yeniklasor> :D
[08:01] <Scunizi> agliv: sorry I thought you were asking a question.
[08:01] <agliv> sergo: I thought you were having problems with azureus?
[08:01] <mag_> what is knackered ?
[08:01] <Deep`> jojoman02, well, if there are permission errors on cp, wont there be the same if you use some program?
[08:01] <Deep`> jojoman02, they have the same rights, right?
[08:01] <epignosi1> how do i upgrade my feisty herd 4 to herd 5
[08:01] <jojoman02> Deep`: i did that for my gf and lost all her stuff when upgrading from dapper to edgy, i didn't check the filesize of the copy like an idiot
[08:01] <Andy50> Dr_willis : well first I just wanted to mount them using the mount command and check what is on the drive then I would edit fstab to make the mount perm
[08:02] <sergo> agliv : i don't have problem with it becouse i removed it..
[08:02] <mag_> well its 150GB might the size matter ?
[08:02] <agliv> Scunizi: yes and no do you know about HD / bios issues?
[08:02] <yeniklasor> How to encoding?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2240160#post2240160
[08:02] <Lazergunz> How do I change my keymap? I can't remember what you had to type in the terminal to get the application up? anyone.
[08:02] <lamha> iam using Ubuntu i lost add remove from my application how do i get it back. was working fine befor
[08:02] <sergo> it use more cpu resources
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  and... you couldnt mount them manually?
[08:02] <llindy> Im running Ubuntu, ran out of disk space, deleted my XP partition dual boot, gained 57 GB free space, but cant move it to /dev/hd1, because Im on a running machine...device occupied.How do I move that free space into /dev/hd1?
[08:02] <sergo> =;
[08:02] <Scunizi> agliv: depends on the question.
[08:02] <sergo> =[
[08:02] <jojoman02> mag_: what does that prog do?
[08:02] <sergo> but it is nice
[08:02] <Deep`> jojoman02, filesize? Of what? (: I'm a bit lost. (:
[08:02] <Andy50> Dr_willis : no, it says unrecognized file sys
[08:02] <agliv> sergo: is that other client that you were talking about as good as azureus
[08:02] <jojoman02> llindy: u have to use a live cd
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  now we are getting to the 'actual' problem....
[08:02] <mag_> jojoman02, with that you can search for software in the repos
[08:02] <Andy50> I thought they were all ext3 under CentOS, but apparently not
[08:03] <slippyr4> llindy: if you boot from a livecd (the desktop installer) you can run gparted from there
[08:03] <dazjorz> yomm: looks like I can't read the cd
[08:03] <dazjorz> under windows
[08:03] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  they may bee reiserfs, or somthing else..  could fire up gparted and see what it says they are.. or use 'sudo fdisk -l'
[08:03] <llindy> slippyr4 thank you, Ill check it out! :)
[08:03] <Andy50> lemme paste fdisk - l output
[08:03] <lamha> iam using Ubuntu i lost add remove from my application how do i get it back. was working fine befor
[08:03] <jojoman02> Deep`: no i'm saying that i tried backing up my gf's home folder using cp and it copied but not all files copied and i didn't check the filesize of the copy to make sure that all the files had copied so i lost all her stuff assuming it had copied:)
[08:04] <Deep`> Aaaah. : /
[08:04] <agliv> Scunizi: unfortunately I've been in a private chat for the past few hours trying to get someone's installation issue solved and we figured out a lot about the problem....
[08:04] <slippyr4> lamha: right click on the applications button, select edit menus
[08:04] <Deep`> jojoman02, okay. ;o But cp should get all the files. ;o
[08:04] <Andy50> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8439/
[08:04] <dazjorz> oh, wrong cd
[08:04] <slippyr4> lamha: pick applications on the left side, and check next to add/remove on the right
[08:04] <Scunizi> agliv: ok... I'm using gaim right now not xchat.. What's the issue in a nutshel?
[08:05] <Andy50> not sure how I got them all diff file sys
[08:05] <agliv> Scunizi: in the end though it was over my head and we agreed to meet back here and ask someone else... but I forgot the nick of the person I was helping....
[08:05] <riven> agliv: its me ;)
[08:05] <Andy50> but they were working fine under CentOS using LVM
[08:05] <agliv> and they haven't written anything here yet
[08:05] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[08:05] <Anixo> Hey, how I can change my USB pen drive from Read-only to read and write? I cant save my files on it :/
[08:05] <sergo> agliv: i like it, in future maybe there will be implemented torrent file creator=] 
[08:05] <dude__> how do you send a kill sig to a specific thing
[08:05] <agliv> Scunizi: riven is having the problem
[08:05] <sergo> then it will be ideal bittorrent client
[08:05] <Deep`> jojoman02, and that should be the easiest, i think, then you can make a cronjob that backup everything (:
[08:06] <slippyr4> Anixo: type sudo mount - is the line corresponding to your usb saying ro or rw at the end?
[08:06] <Scunizi> riven: go.. whatz up.. give me the question
[08:06] <Andy50> Dr_willis what repo is gparted in ?
[08:06] <agliv> riven: I've briefed Scunizi in general, can you take over from here
[08:06] <Dr_willis> !info gparted
[08:06] <ubotu> gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1.1ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 314 kB, installed size 1588 kB
[08:06] <riven> Scunizi: the problem is the hard drive is not recognized, the cable looks fine, its set on master, but yet it wont get detected
[08:06] <jli> hi does anyone know the name of the null x windows buffer that allows you to run wine applications without a gui i read an article about it ages ago but can't remember what the program was called
[08:06] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  'main' it seems
[08:06] <Andy50> hm
[08:06] <agliv> sergo: Is it as configurable as azureus?
[08:06] <Andy50> I thought I looked for it earlier, but only saw qtparted
[08:07] <oem__> how do i download drivers for dvdrw
[08:07] <Anixo> /dev/sdc on /media/STICK type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:07] <Scunizi> riven:  detected by 1> the live cd 2> the computer 3> bios?
[08:07] <lamha> Slippppyr4: add/remove is not found there? but all the other application n stuff are there
[08:07] <Andy50> Dr_willis did you check my paste ?
[08:07] <agliv> sergo: I really like the different options that azureus provides... they are worth the extra memory
[08:07] <sergo> agliv: it's seems yes
[08:07] <rob-west> can someone help me get my saitek gamepad working in ubuntu
[08:07] <riven> Scunizi; the live cd sees it, but cant communicate with it, the bios and computer wont recognize it
[08:07] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  if you are using LVM - then i got no clue. i dont bother with LVM at all.
[08:07] <slippyr4> Anixo: do an ls -la in /media - what are the permissions on the STICK dir?
[08:07] <lamha> slippyr4,  add/remove is not found there? but all the other application n stuff are there
[08:08] <Andy50> not using it on ubuntu, but I was on CentOS
[08:08] <Scunizi> riven: how old is the harddrive and how old is your motherboard
[08:08] <riven> Scunizi; year or two
[08:08] <Anixo> dr-x------
[08:08] <sergo> i forget my question
[08:08] <sergo> )
[08:08] <Andy50> ok installing gparted
[08:08] <agliv> riven, We Green, even if you're not yet... sorry I couldn't help you out further...
[08:08] <Scunizi> rivin: and the drive is plugged into the end of the ide cable ... by it's self?
[08:08] <dazjorz> woops
[08:08] <riven> agliv: thanks for all your help
[08:09] <riven> Scunizi; yes, its the only drive on the cable
[08:09] <slippyr4> lamha: ok, click the new item button, call it Add/Remove, and set it's command to /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[08:09] <dtolj> !mono
[08:09] <Scunizi> riven: does the drive have a sticker showing you the cylinders etc.
[08:09] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[08:09] <riven> Scunizi; let me take it out and look
[08:09] <agliv> riven: Sire dost thought parden thy humble servant from thy guiliteen?
[08:09] <Andy50> Dr_willis gparted shows filesystem unknown for all my drives
[08:09] <Scunizi> riven: ok
[08:09] <slippyr4> Anixo : please quote peoples nicknames in your replies - it helps us. ok. type sudo chmod 776 /media/STICK
[08:09] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  so they are all for lvm?
[08:10] <Andy50> I assume thats because it can't understand the lvm
[08:10] <Andy50> yes
[08:10] <Dr_willis> Andy50,  you are on ya own then. :) ive never used lvm at all.. never saw the need for it.
[08:10] <Andy50> can I load lvm on ubuntu ?
[08:10] <Dr_willis> !lvm
[08:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:10] <Andy50> just to access the drives to pull the data off and then redo them ext3 ?
[08:10] <agliv> sergo: what was the name again of that client?
[08:10] <riven> Scunizi; there is not sticker with cylinders
[08:10] <Anixo> slippyr4: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/STICK': Read-only file system
[08:11] <slippyr4> andy50: what is your issue with lvm?
[08:11] <sergo> agliv: Deluge
[08:11] <Scunizi> riven: when you're in the bios of the machine and look at the harddrive section, is it set to auto or is the info entered manually?
[08:11] <Anixo> slippyr4: The permissions are still the same when I try ls -la
[08:11] <slippyr4> Anixo: unmount the stick and try again
[08:11] <At0mic_P2> Anyone want to make a deb of chessdb?
[08:11] <At0mic_P2> I can't get it to compile.
[08:11] <riven> Scunizi; auto
[08:11] <Andy50> slippyr4 : i reloaded a box that had CentOS on it, and a few extra drives , and now I can't mount them in ubuntu
[08:11] <sergo> =] 
[08:11] <agliv> sergo: thanks I'll look it up ;)
[08:11] <slippyr4> andy50: what version of ubuntu
[08:11] <Andy50> I assume its because I was using LVM under CentOS
[08:11] <Andy50> 6.10
[08:12] <Scunizi> rivin:   are you using a cable with a blue connector on the motherboard side?
[08:12] <Anixo> slippyr4: ok. Can you please give me the command to mount it instead of the auto mount?
[08:12] <slippyr4> andy50: lvm is lvm, distro should't matter
[08:12] <agliv> Scunizi: riven: good luck and good night :)
[08:12] <riven> Scunizi; yes
[08:12] <riven> agliv; good night
[08:12] <slippyr4> Anixo: sudo umount /media/STICK ought to unmount it
[08:12] <Andy50> ok, well I guess I will try and load it on here
[08:12] <agliv> Chausen all :)
[08:12] <Scunizi> riven: and it's plugged into the blue connector on the motherboard?
[08:12] <giskard> hello
[08:12] <oem__> i cant get my dvd to work comming up with message saying totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'.
[08:12] <slippyr4> andy50: do you have the lvm-tools installed?
[08:12] <Andy50> no
[08:12] <OuZo> does anybody know of a program that can solve maths problems & show its steps of how it got to its solution? ( linear algebra & discrete maths) thanks
[08:12] <Andy50> doing that now
[08:13] <giskard> do you know how i can tell openoffice to print only  1-3-5--7.. pages?
[08:13] <riven> Scunizi; blue connecter is plugged into the motherboard
[08:13] <slippyr4> andy50: it ought to work. root on lvm is fiddly in ubuntu desktop
[08:13] <Anixo> slippyr4: ok is unmounted now. Is there a special command to mount it as read-write?
[08:13] <slippyr4> Anixo: now its unmounted do the chmod comand i said earlier
[08:13] <Andy50> slippyr4 : what is the name of lvm-tools ? I dont see it in synaptic
[08:13] <Scunizi> riven: what I mean is the blue connector on the cable should merry to the blue connector on the MB
[08:13] <slippyr4> iirc lvm2
[08:14] <Andy50> ok
[08:14] <riven> Scunizi; the connector on the MB isnt blue, its black.
[08:14] <Anixo> slippyr4: I did that and now the STICK is green and the permissions are drwxrwxrw- now
[08:14] <shark-1> im suprised my computer has blown up
[08:14] <Scunizi> riven:  that may be the rub... do you have another IDE cable that has all black connectors?
[08:14] <slippyr4> scunizi: has his bios been able to find the drive?
[08:14] <shark-1> filled with dust inside
[08:15] <Scunizi> slippyr4: no
[08:15] <lufis> Where's all the cool new features in eye of gnome? Are they not going to be in this release?
[08:15] <slippyr4> anixo: unplug and replug the stick and it ought to work now
[08:15] <riven> Scunizi; the MB has 2 IDE connectors, I could move the 2nd IDE cable to the first's spot?
[08:15] <yeniklasor> How to encoding?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2240160#post2240160
[08:15] <transgress_> okay i'm trying to mount a remote directory by nfs and it's just hanging.  is "sudo mount -t nfs host:/dir /my_mount" not right?
[08:15] <Scunizi> riven:  are either of them blue?
[08:15] <slippyr4> scunizi: is his MB ancient?
[08:15] <transgress_> nevermind it just took a bit
[08:15] <Scunizi> slippyr4: 1-2 yrs
[08:15] <riven> scunizi; no, the 2nd IDE is white, the first is black
[08:16] <Scunizi> riven: try the white one.
[08:16] <Anixo> slippyr4: oh god :( The same now as before. Permissions reset and read only. Why it has to be so hard :/
[08:17] <swanfl> folks, I must speak up so please don't consider me a troll.
[08:17] <Scunizi> riven: the cable you're using is for "higher" speed drives and the black connector on the motherboard is not:  the difference is the number of wires running in the cable.
[08:17] <Scunizi> riven: one is not always compatable with the other.
[08:17] <lamha> slippyr4, i have added add/remove in the menu layout and gave the command /usr/bin/gnome-app-install but still it doesn't appear there?
[08:17] <slippyr4> anixo what was that line on the mount output
[08:17] <swanfl> I'm getting sick and tired of the ubuntu team leaving bugs unfixed for months at a time. what gives?
[08:18] <slippyr4> lamha did you tick your new;y added item?
[08:18] <Scunizi> riven: are you talking on a different machine?  hopefully.
[08:18] <riven> Scunizi; yes I am
[08:18] <ardchoille> swanfl: Which bugs? And have you filed bug reports?
[08:18] <Anixo> slippyr4: The mount output? You mean when I mounted it? I repluged it and Ubuntu mounts it automatically. Shall I turn off the auto mount and do it manually?
[08:19] <swanfl> ardchoille, consider this one as an example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/72262
[08:19] <slippyr4> anixo: doesn't matter - just type mount and show me that line
[08:20] <Scunizi> riven: depending on your motherboard you may also have a bios switch to turn on the higher speed of the drive.  We'll deal with that later... have you made the switch? after you do you'll need to boot to the bios and give the MB a chance to recognize it and change any values it needs to.
[08:20] <swanfl> (that bug does not exist in Windows (perish the thought) or PC Linux OS or Debian
[08:20] <lamha> slippyr4, im sorry i dont see any add/remove after adding? so no where to tick :(
[08:20] <riven> Scunizi; yes, ive switched the cables
[08:20] <Anixo> slippyr4: /dev/sdc on /media/STICK type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:20] <Anixo>  It was formated in windows if that matters.
[08:20] <lamha> slippyr4,  i also revert the setting to make it default but nothing good happened
[08:20] <qRohde> I'm having massive trouble with the nvidia-driver, when I get it installed it is deleted upon reboot, I can't see why, what do I do?
[08:21] <oem__> ok just installed ubuntu and now want to install drivers but comming up with error messages what do i do
[08:21] <Andy50> slippyr4 : how do I use the lvm tools ?
[08:21] <slippyr4> lamha: try it again, i just tried it on mine and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn;t
[08:21] <LordLimecat> oem__: what drivers are you trying to install
[08:21] <slippyr4> andy50: what do you want to do with them?
[08:21] <Andy50> heh
[08:21] <riven> Scunizi; even as secondary master it does not see it
[08:22] <Andy50> want to access these drives that were setup under LVM under CentOS
[08:22] <BOOMSHOT> sup everyone...ne1 had luck installing Ubuntu on 680i mobo w/ 8800GTS video card?
[08:22] <lamha> slippyr4,  thank you so much.. i got the idea now. may be i could try after rebooting.. cya laters
[08:22] <slippyr4> andy50: a vgdislay might show you interesting things. bring up the volume groups with vgchange -a y
[08:22] <Scunizi> riven:  why do you say "secondary master" ... is that what the white connector is labeled?
[08:22] <Andy50> I mean does it install it somewhere, does it have a gui like on fedora ?
[08:22] <oem__> lordlimecat; my dvd drive
[08:22] <riven> Scunizi; yes
[08:22] <LordLimecat> it doesnt work by default?
[08:22] <Andy50> ok so cmd line only...lemme get the list of commands
[08:23] <Bajoran> is there a alsa compatability for x-fi drivers yet?
[08:23] <slippyr4> andy50: those commands are as root; put sudo in front of them
[08:23] <Scunizi> riven: was this drive working before or is it a new one? What kind of drive is it? What's the make & Model of MB
[08:23] <oem__> lordlimecat; not when i want to play a movie
[08:23] <LordLimecat> im not an expert....
[08:23] <LordLimecat> but im gonna guess you dont have the codeca
[08:23] <LordLimecat> codecs
[08:24] <LordLimecat> does it read data discs?
[08:24] <yell0w> hey guys, how can i remove "places" on the system panel ?
[08:24] <riven> Scunizi; its a Western Digital WD600, 60gig
[08:24] <ardchoille> swanfl: lol, I can't even reproduce that bug as my oo.o crashes in the Click Tables -> Use Wizard to Create Table step
[08:24] <Scunizi> riven: new?
[08:24] <riven> Scunizi; it was working with windows last night
[08:24] <Kuba> #/join ubuntu-pl
[08:24] <riven> Scunizi; used
[08:24] <swanfl> you must be using sun java :)
[08:24] <Scunizi> riven: that would imply the motherboard could see it then.  What's changed?
[08:24] <oem__> lordlimecat; i know but i cant seem to install it i do have the installation cd
[08:25] <Devy> is there a way to get the native resolution away? Nvidia driver thinks i got a 19 inch but i got a 20 inch. :/
[08:25] <ardchoille> swanfl: I haven't installed java at all. I assumed, if it was a dep, it would have been installed with the system.
[08:25] <riven> Scunizi; I installed debian, didnt really like it, and wanted to wipe it and use ubuntu
[08:25] <BOOMSHOT> in addition 2 other ? --> Does the latest Ubuntu 6.10 alternate image include latest Nvidia drivers which supports 8800GTs card?
[08:25] <slippyr4> scunizi: if it was working in windows, then windows booted, therefore the bios can see that drive
[08:25] <swanfl> it is a dependency, but doesn't get installed by default, probably because there's more than one java to choose from
[08:26] <LordLimecat> for the DVD drive?
[08:26] <LordLimecat> thats probably for windows
[08:26] <Scunizi> riven: if the mb is on auto, how did you come to the conclusion it couldn't recognize the drive anymore?
[08:26] <LordLimecat> ima do a quick bit of research and see what i find o.0
[08:26] <riven> Scunizi; after it checks bios, it pops up with cannot find Master Drive 0
[08:26] <Marupa> In gnome, how do you make VLC your default video player?
[08:27] <Scunizi> riven: do you have any other cables? to do a swap.  also, stupid question, have you tried a different power connector on the drive?
[08:27] <riven> Scunizi; ive tried different power connections, ill see if I have another IDE cable
[08:27] <codo> anyone here ?
[08:27] <oem__> lordlimecat;i just installed ubuntu yesterday so im not familiar with any thing
[08:27] <slippyr4> Andy50 how are you getting on?
[08:28] <riven> Scunizi; the correct error it says, Primary Drive 0 not found
[08:28] <codo> I notice weird look in kubuntu when i switched to it from gnome
[08:28] <codo> why is that ?
[08:28] <slippyr4> codo: 1,082 of us
[08:28] <codo> slippyr4 :P
[08:28] <LordLimecat> oem_--thats fine, im actually sort of new too :D  after following a few howtos you get used to it
[08:28] <Scunizi> riven: is your motherboard SATA capable?
[08:28] <codo> now is my problem googleable ?
[08:28] <TKitch> damn.  I hate computers sometimes.
[08:28] <LordLimecat> its actually MUCH easier to fix issues in ubuntu than XP :)
[08:28] <ardchoille> Marupa: Right-click the file, go to Properties, choose the Open With tab and choose which app the file opens in. If the app isn't there, add it and then choose it's radio button.
[08:28] <slippyr4> codo: what is wierd about it
[08:28] <LordLimecat> cause ppl can actually help you
[08:28] <Marupa> ardchoille, Thanks!
[08:28] <codo> slippyr4 the look appears crappy
[08:28] <ardchoille> Marupa: You're welcome :)
[08:28] <riven> Scunizi; no its not
[08:28] <BOOMSHOT> Ne Ubuntu gurus here 2 help me b4 i take the plunge?
[08:28] <codo> not smooth like gnome.
[08:29] <LordLimecat> i doubt theres a #windowsXP channel (at least not one filled with experts)
[08:29] <eilker> i capture my screen with xvidcap. motions speed is more than normal. and avi file is to big, any help pls ?
[08:29] <Marupa> eilker, re-encode with mencoder.
[08:29] <scizzo-> hi everyone..I was just wondering if there is any problems with the Samba package samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1_i386.deb?
[08:29] <codo> any idea ?
[08:29] <slippyr4> BOOMSHOT: why does it matter if they're on the cd? you can always add them afterwards. eg. They're not on your windows cd - you add them after install
[08:29] <Howi> The Windows experts are too busy making money, and arn't interested in giving free support.
[08:29] <Bajoran> er I just installed the ati control panel and fglrx drivers
[08:29] <LordLimecat> oem_-- how are you trying to play the video
[08:29] <Scunizi> riven: I'm not telling you to do this yet, but have you reset the configuration data on the MB?
[08:29] <oem__> lordlimecat; thats good to know
[08:29] <eilker> marupa : thanx let me try
[08:30] <riven> Scunizi, no
[08:30] <scizzo-> I get a error when installing samba while it tries to start it...
[08:30] <oem__> lordlimecat; its automatic
[08:30] <LordLimecat> and what happens
[08:30] <BOOMSHOT> slippyr4: I noticed people on Ubuntu forum were having probs with 680i mobo n 8800GTS card
[08:30] <codo> umm no help ?
[08:30] <LordLimecat> (i dont have a dvd drive curently) :(
[08:31] <jlamr_> q
[08:31] <sasch> can help me with ubuntu and mdadm
[08:31] <BOOMSHOT> during install...stated to use 6.10 alt image...but wont start x
[08:31] <scizzo-> I get the following error after remove samba and trying to install it again:
[08:31] <ardchoille> what are the default perms on /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:31] <BOOMSHOT> semi-novice here
[08:31] <scizzo-> invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed.
[08:31] <scizzo-> dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:32] <scizzo-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:32] <Scunizi> riven:  well at this point you've got nothing to loose.  Reset the data.  That will put it back to factory settings.  If you've got an all black ide cable (connectors) use that in the primary drive slot. Boot to the bios, save and try again to see what the results are.
[08:32] <scizzo-> sorry for the flood
[08:32] <cris> can someone tell me how to succesfully install beryl in feisty fawn?
[08:32] <LordLimecat> fiesty fawn is out???
[08:32] <LordLimecat> o.0
[08:32] <cris> ^^
[08:32] <ardchoille> cris: You should ask in #ubuntu+1 (feisty help) or #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <Scunizi> riven: no power surges/outages lately?
[08:32] <slippyr4> ardchoille 644
[08:32] <cris> i have alpha version ^^
[08:32] <riven> Scunizi, no
[08:33] <oem__> lordlimecat; well how bout other programs is there a way to conver windows based software to ubuntu
[08:33] <LordLimecat> yes!
[08:33] <LordLimecat> there is
[08:33] <Scunizi> riven: is it a home built machine or a name brand
[08:33] <TKitch> Anyone want to try and help me with a Keyboard Issue?  (Computers suck)
[08:33] <LordLimecat> its a wondrous proggram called wine
[08:33] <riven> Scunizi; its a Dell 4600
[08:33] <sasch> can help me with ubuntu and mdadm
[08:33] <Scunizi> riven: and the machine you're on now?
[08:34] <LordLimecat> however...depending on what programs you want, its probably better to look for a ubuntu alternative
[08:34] <riven> Scunizi, home built
[08:34] <nblracer> what free linux program is like adobe photoshop
[08:34] <LordLimecat> what specifically are you trying to bring  over
[08:34] <slippyr4> nblracer gimp
[08:34] <LordLimecat> nblracer-- the gimp>?
[08:34] <Latitude^> does ubuntu have a 'system restore' like feature?
[08:34] <Scunizi> riven: have you tried the drive in the home built machine as a secondary .. as a test/
[08:34] <ardchoille> slippyr4: Thank you :)
[08:34] <wastrel> Latitude^:  no
[08:34] <riven> Scunizi, not yet
[08:34] <Latitude^> i thought so....
[08:35] <LordLimecat> Latitude^: from my limited (classroom, scrweing around) linux experience....
[08:35] <LordLimecat> if somethin breaks
[08:35] <oem__> lordlimecat; everything i had on my xp ver.
[08:35] <LordLimecat> you can generally fix it
[08:35] <delmar> Hi everyone.  I just plugged in my Kodak camera which I have had working on this system before (it detected and mounted stuff in /media automatically).. like.. mid last year.. but today I plug it in, and nothing.  lsusb only shows Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000.  I think there is something wrong with my USB support. can anyone give me a hand with this?
[08:35] <jlamr> I have a computer w/only debian installed - I added a 2nd hard drive dmesg shows it. How do I access the 2nd hd?
[08:35] <LordLimecat> even if you screw up the kernel or move hte image or mess up the partitions
[08:35] <LordLimecat> you can fix it
[08:35] <LordLimecat> oem_--specifics would help, i can point you to software
[08:35] <Scunizi> riven: you might give that a try as well. Western Dig. has a decent warranty.  I've had a couple replaced in the last year or so.  It may have just failed.
[08:35] <oem__> lordlimecat; cool
[08:35] <LordLimecat> documents should currently work....
[08:35] <wastrel> what's system restore anyway
[08:36] <Latitude^> any back up tool at all in case i mess up anything?
[08:36] <riven> Scunizi; thanks, I will try that
[08:36] <LordLimecat> image your drive, latitude
[08:36] <BOOMSHOT> sup everyone...ne1 had luck installing Ubuntu on 680i mobo w/ 8800GTS video card?
[08:36] <Scunizi> riven: is your working machine on Win?
[08:36] <LordLimecat> :D
[08:36] <oem__> lordlimecat; so what is it www.wine.com
[08:36] <wastrel> !backup | Latitude^
[08:36] <ubotu> Latitude^: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:36] <LordLimecat> www.winehq.com
[08:36] <LordLimecat> however
[08:36] <eilker> marupa : how will i use mencoder ?
[08:36] <LordLimecat> installing this stuff can be easier than you think
[08:36] <GionnyBoss> I can't set Nautilus to open audio files with XMMS. When I try to add XMMS in the application to handle that type of file, I get the error: Could not add application to the application database. Can anybody help me, please?
[08:37] <LordLimecat> one sec, ill brb
[08:37] <JulieJulie> hey all
[08:37] <LordLimecat> kopete sucks for irc
[08:37] <Scunizi> riven?
[08:37] <kevcast> How do I setup a scanner?
[08:37] <riven> Scunizi; which machine
[08:37] <n-iCe> Hi how can i use the completition words ?
[08:37] <xamox> I am using smbfs to mount my share to a local directory, but that local directory only has read perms, even if I try to chmod or chown them they still do not change, how do I fix this? On my other server it allows anonymous connections and allows read/write because I was using it in windows before moving to ubuntu.
[08:37] <n-iCe> I'm there in the first column i need to write the word example "HI" and in the other word the message? right?
[08:38] <TKitch> Anyone think they could help with a Keyboard problem?  (Attempting to install ubuntu)
[08:38] <n-iCe> If i type "Hi" automatically is going to send my message right?
[08:38] <wastrel> kevcast:  try sane
[08:38] <Scunizi> riven: your home built... If it's on WinXX Western Dig. has a diagnostic program you have to run on the drive to see if it's working correctly.  If it doesn't pass the test the program will generate a special code you need to give to their customer service for the replacement.
[08:38] <wastrel> !scanner | kevcast
[08:38] <ubotu> kevcast: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:38] <oem__> lordlimecat; is that sopose to scare me or should i be glad i switched to ubuntu
[08:39] <riven> Scunizi; I downloaded the data tools iso to use on the drive, I tried that also, and it didnt find it
[08:39] <LordLimeca1> you still here, oem?
[08:39] <n-iCe> can any give me a hand please? or give he spanish help channels, please?
[08:39] <oem__> lordlimecat; yeah
[08:39] <wastrel> !es  | n-iCe
[08:39] <ubotu> n-iCe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:39] <LordLimeca1> good
[08:39] <Scunizi> riven:  understand.. West. Dig will not replace it until you run their diagnostic program and generate a code.  You have to do that on Windows.
[08:40] <riven> Scunizi; Ok, I will go attempt that now
[08:40] <riven> thanks for the help and advice
[08:40] <hacim> i've got a breezy system and want to upgrade it, I think edgy is what it should be upgraded to?
[08:40] <Scunizi> riven:  If your home built is on Windows and you install the drive there as a secondary that's the way to go... Good luck!
[08:40] <JulieJulie> What would be the best website guide to install ubuntu?
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> oem_, join #LordLimecat if you cant respond
[08:40] <kevcast> My scanner's unsupported by sane. I guess that means no dice, eh?
[08:41] <hacim> do most people use edgy now?
[08:41] <wastrel> !install | JulieJulie
[08:41] <ubotu> JulieJulie: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:41] <ffxr> hi i have had to recompile alsa to get my sound card drivers working.. now i have a problem where ALSAMIXER doesnt remember any changes i have made after i reboot.. any clues?
[08:41] <wastrel> kevcast:  probably...  google might know
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> heres a question......say i want to upgrade to fiesty fawn...but i want it compiled for AMD64
[08:42] <wastrel> otherwise you may be out of luck.
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> whats the easiest way to accomplish this
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> just install and then recompile?
[08:42] <swanfl> forget feisty for now, it isn't ready yet.
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> when it is
[08:42] <ffxr> LordLimeca1 if your on i386 now, u wont be able to do that,,,
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> sigh
[08:42] <LordLimeca1> im on an AMD64 processor
[08:42] <swanfl> you'll have to do a full re-install to upgrade to AMD64
[08:42] <Velja> I'm noob ... How can I install X11 libraries and headers using apt-get?
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> alright
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> oem_: are you there?
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> ./join #lordlimecat
[08:43] <oem__> yeah i was just reading
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> k :D
[08:43] <swanfl> velja: install any other package that needs X, such as kde or gnome
[08:43] <swanfl> that's the simplest
[08:43] <jojoman02> is JAVA6 much faster than JAVA5 for stuff like azureus?
[08:43] <LordLimeca1> in windows at least, java6 was a huge improvement
[08:44] <swanfl> Java5/6 are broken
[08:44] <qRohde> ok, it seems that my message was unseen I'll try again. When I install the nvidia-drivers through aptitude it will be deleteed when I reboot, also the driver is the wrong one (8776, where it should be 9746) what do I do
[08:44] <swanfl> stick with regular sun java 1.4.x
[08:44] <Spec> what's wrong with java 5?
[08:44] <wastrel> Velja:  you want to build software that needs X headers & stuff?
[08:44] <jojoman02> LordLimeca1: how dare thou speak of windows in thy ubuntu channel...
[08:44] <LordLimeca1> lol
[08:44] <LordLimeca1> hold on now
[08:44] <swanfl> jigzone.com doesn't work with anything newer than 1.4.x
[08:44] <Spec> and that means -java-'s broken?
[08:44] <hacim> where can I find info on updating from breezy?
[08:44] <funpop> if i uninstall network-manager..will i loose my connection ?
[08:44] <swanfl> (for example--causes browser crashes or just doesn't load the applet)
[08:45] <Velja> wastrel, Yes
[08:45] <wastrel> !upgrade | hacim
[08:45] <ubotu> hacim: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:45] <swanfl> yeah, it does
[08:45] <funpop> !nm-applet
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <swanfl> if a program crashes, it is broken.
[08:45] <oem__> lordlimecat; yeah thats another ? i wanted to install java
[08:45] <funpop> !network-manager
[08:45] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[08:45] <LordLimeca1> oem_: i can help you easier if you join my seperate channel o.0 ill walk you through getting all set up, and i dont want to spam this channe;
[08:45] <jojoman02> java is NOT broken, most of the memory and/or performance issues are programmer's not java
[08:45] <Velja> wastrel, ?
[08:45] <DaveTarmac> good evening everyone. is there anyone in here with a good working knowlege of MadWifi on Ubuntu?
[08:45] <swanfl> fair enough
[08:46] <tunganet> Anyone know why i can't use my numberpad to use items in warcraft 3?
[08:46] <oem__> lordlimecat; ok
[08:46] <swanfl> but it should be noted that the problem I am thinking of affects three browsers and oo.o also
[08:46] <wastrel> Velja:  try  sudo apt-get xlibs-dev
[08:46] <TKitch> Anyone want to try and help me figure out a Keyboard problem?
[08:46] <luna6> join #mythtv
[08:46] <Velja> wastrel, thanks ...
[08:46] <wastrel> er install
[08:46] <wastrel> apt-get install :] 
[08:46] <swanfl> (firefox: crash.  opera or konq:  applet doesn't run.  oo.o, we've already been through what happens there)
[08:50] <pollypocket> some how I got an error after logging in; the Gnome Area Information Applet encounter an error, do you want to delete it from the panel
[08:50] <hedi> salut
[08:50] <LordLimeca1> oem_: ...?
[08:50] <hedi> koi ?
[08:50] <pollypocket> I said no dont delete and now my desktop is blank and no icons show up there
[08:51] <mig> Hi, anyone able to help me with dual monitor issues?
[08:51] <ardchoille> pollypocket: Does ALT+F2  give you anything?
[08:52] <oem__> lordlimecat; i tryed using the other line but no responce
[08:52] <pollypocket> yes I get the run applicatio ndialog box
[08:52] <pollypocket> which is neat to know
[08:52] <TKitch> ANyone know any issues with the Asus A7A133 motherboard?
[08:53] <pollypocket> i also have the top and bottom panel with the applications menu exit link trash can and 4 desktop squares in the bottom right
[08:54] <wastrel> pollypocket:  try starting nautilus
[08:54] <ffxr> hi i have had to recompile alsa to get my sound card drivers working.. now i have a problem where ALSAMIXER doesnt remember any changes i have made after i reboot.. any clues?
[08:54] <jonas_larson> need help redecting a website and keeping the "server name" in apache...
[08:54] <tunganet> How do i upgrade my wine to 0.9.32?
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> tunganet--im lookin myself right now
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> ill let you know when i find out
[08:55] <omglazers> Hey I know this is a bit OT for the channel but does anyone here use Dvorak and maybe have a good learning site to help me learn it?
[08:55] <tunganet> LordLimeca1: okay:D
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> whats it add, btw :D
[08:56] <LordLimeca1> HAH
[08:56] <atomiku> whats the name of the file browser?
[08:56] <jonas_larson> www.foo.org -> originally to 1.2.3.4, I want to redirect it to 2.3.4.5 keeping the www.foo.org in the request to my new apache server...
[08:56] <LordLimeca1> i got the repo for it
[08:56] <n-iCe> who know about xchat?
[08:56] <atomiku> cause i wanna browse my files in sudo mode
[08:56] <LordLimeca1> who says automatix is all bad
[08:56] <jo_> helloo
[08:56] <UbuntuAr> I am trying to follow a tutorial to install skype on amd64, where one of the steps is to execute the command: ar -x foobar.deb ....but ar is not a command recognized in terminal.  How do I work around this?
[08:56] <LordLimeca1> added some nice repositories
[08:56] <pollypocket> hmmm i just selected Places/my computer but no window opened
[08:56] <soundray> atomiku: nautilus
[08:56] <ardchoille> pollypocket: So, your panels are working?
[08:56] <ardchoille> atomiku: gksudo nautilus
[08:56] <LordLimeca1> who was askin about wine 32>
[08:56] <atomiku> ardchoille: thanks buddy
[08:57] <ardchoille> atomiku: You're welcome :)
[08:57] <atomiku> whats the gksudo about?
[08:57] <atomiku> nvm, i'll man gksudo
[08:57] <wastrel> pollypocket:  open a terminal and try "killall nautilus"
[08:57] <ardchoille> !gksudo | atomiku
[08:57] <ubotu> atomiku: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[08:57] <LordLimeca1> tunganet: add this repository
[08:57] <LordLimeca1> deb http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt edgy main
[08:57] <atomiku> ahhh
[08:57] <Halcy0n> Is there some place that synaptic looks for proxy settings?  I can't figure out where this proxy is set in my home directory, but synaptic keeps trying to use it.
[08:57] <pollypocket> ok
[08:57] <n-iCe> who use xchat?
[08:57] <atomiku> thanks again ardchoille
[08:57] <LordLimeca1> then run an apt-get update
[08:57] <tunganet> LordLimeca1: ok
[08:57] <LordLimeca1> and upgrade
[08:57] <LordLimeca1> :D
[08:57] <LordLimeca1> woot
[08:57] <qRohde> ok, I'm confused, what's up with the nvidia-kernel startup script? It seems to make my nvidia-driver load, but why isn't the driver in the kernel modules folder, so xorg can autoload it?
[08:57] <pollypocket> oh yeah that worked
[08:57] <predaeus> UbuntuAr: sudo apt-get install ar
[08:58] <UbuntuAr> thansk, predaeus
[08:58] <ardchoille> pollypocket: nautilus manages the desktop (icons, wallpaper, etc), so if nautilus isn't running at all, then your desktop will be blank
[08:58] <pollypocket> killall nautilus at first the screen seemed to blink with out change and then nautilus loadeditself
[08:58] <predaeus> UbuntuAr: oh, looks like that package does not exist
[08:58] <cris> is there any ubuntu chanel in spanish?
[08:58] <UbuntuAr> Correct, just saw that, predaeus.
[08:58] <ardchoille> pollypocket: nautilus, like the gnome-panel, will respawn
[08:58] <soundray> !es > cris
[08:58] <pollypocket> and the mycomputer browser opened
[08:59] <ardchoille> pollypocket: sounds like your nautilus had a hiccup when you logged in
[08:59] <dtolj> ffxr: run alsactl store as root
[08:59] <tunganet> LordLimeca1: doesnt work :o
[09:00] <Fu22y_Lojik> Hello all
[09:00] <K3nto> does anybody here know how to make a game/app load in windowed mode?
[09:00] <predaeus> UbuntuAr: its sudo apt-get install binutils
[09:00] <ardchoille> K3nto: That would depend on whether or not the game was designed to do that. Usually, man gamename will tell you the options.
[09:01] <dtolj> !binutils
[09:01] <ubotu> binutils: The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.17-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1406 kB, installed size 7076 kB
[09:01] <Lord_Maynoth_42> can someone please help me
[09:01] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I want to remotely use my windows box
[09:01] <Lord_Maynoth_42> from edgy
[09:01] <DaveTarmac> MadWifi assistance, anyone?
[09:01] <zYe> can anyone help me set up a linksys wrt300n
[09:01] <zYe> router
[09:01] <tunganet> LordLimeca1: ok nvm it works!
[09:01] <Halcy0n> Is there some place that synaptic looks for proxy settings?  I can't figure out where this proxy is set in my home directory, but synaptic keeps trying to use it.
[09:01] <mig> Hi, anyone able to help me with dual monitor issues?
[09:02] <ikonia> mig: what video card are you using
[09:02] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: install VNC for Windows and vncviewer in Ubuntu
[09:02] <atomiku> Also: How can I unrar?
[09:02] <cables> !rar | Atom-
[09:02] <ubotu> Atom-: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:02] <cables> !rar | atomiku
[09:02] <grayman_> why do you want to browse your files as root?
[09:02] <ubotu> atomiku: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:02] <grayman_> it's mostly unneeded
[09:02] <grayman_> and should be avoided
[09:02] <atomiku> thanks cables
[09:02] <mig> ikonia: PM might be better.
[09:02] <ardchoille> grayman_: Good point
[09:02] <dtolj> atomiku: apt-get install unrar
[09:02] <atomiku> yeah
[09:02] <TKitch> TommyBJ:  You still around?
[09:02] <Latitude^> whats a file system both linux and windoze can both read and write?
[09:02] <atomiku> thanks dtolj
[09:02] <ikonia> mig:  no thanks
[09:02] <netsrot> anyone got beryl running with Wow? I got launchpanel allways show and alt key not working in game.
[09:02] <ikonia> mig: just say in the channel
[09:02] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: alternatively, check out FreeNX (ubotu will send private message)
[09:02] <zYe> can anyone help me set up a linksys wrt300n router
[09:03] <mig> Fair enough.
[09:03] <Fu22y_Lojik> Hey folks, I am seeking some help with a resolution problem on NVidia cards....I can't cahnge from 800x600
[09:03] <netsrot> LordLimeca1: are you still here anyhow? did you solve those problems?
[09:03] <jojoman02> atomiku: zip stuff if you want it cross-platform or tar.gz it for linux/mac       = cross platform here means builtin support for those filetypes
[09:03] <mig> Lemme find the post I made, will be easier than repeating everything.
[09:03] <cables> There are Windows drivers for Ext3 (the Linux filesystem) and both of them can read/write FAT.
[09:03] <ardchoille> Fu22y_Lojik: Have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:03] <n-iCe> notice %nick %s %d message
[09:03] <n-iCe> is correct ?
[09:03] <dsquare> hi is there a way to save my desktop layout in gnome? like so when i open a program it goes to the same place?
[09:03] <TKitch> Ok, folks.  Ubuntu is WIERD.
[09:03] <soundray> !freenx > Lord_Maynoth_42
[09:03] <GionnyBoss> I can't understand why I constantly get an error if I try to set nautilus to open audio files with XMMS. Can anybody help, please?
[09:03] <slyfox> Is there some kind of program on Linux which will allow me to set specific time allowed for someone to sit on the computer? I mean like say 3 hours per day on weekends and 1.5 on weekdays ?  Soemthing Like Child Control on Windows ?
[09:03] <Fu22y_Lojik> yeah, i fubarred teh whole system by pressing the wrong keys.
[09:03] <UbuntuAr> Thank you very much, predaeus!
[09:03] <soundray> TKitch: yep, and you can't spell ;)
[09:04] <Fu22y_Lojik> So I tried envy from alberto milone
[09:04] <ardchoille> GionnyBoss: What is the error? I use xmms too
[09:04] <Fu22y_Lojik> But didn't work
[09:04] <jojoman02> slyfox: yes there is
[09:04] <cables> slyfox, Edubuntu has that feature I think, but I don't know what package provides it... sorry.
[09:04] <mig> ikonia: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375069
[09:04] <jojoman02> slyfox: lemme get a second to google it for you
[09:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> do i have to do any weird config stuff to get it to work
[09:04] <TKitch> soundray:  I fixed a keyboard problem by replacing the video card.  You do the math ;)
[09:04] <ardchoille> soundray: lol
[09:04] <slyfox> jojoman02: please.
[09:04] <n-iCe> notice %nick %s %d message , is correct ?
[09:04] <Helmi> does anyone know a reason why gksu "update-manager -d" doesn't bring me the possiblity to upgrade to feisty from edgy?
[09:04] <jojoman02> slyfox: stay in channel
[09:04] <Scunizi> slyfox:  I think Dansguardian will do that and more.
[09:04] <predaeus> np. just help others when you can :-)
[09:04] <GionnyBoss> ardchoille, I get an error "Could not add application to the application database"
[09:05] <K3nto> ardchoille: it was meant to be in windowed mode, it did in windows (WoW)
[09:05] <soundray> TKitch: serendipity, if you ask me.
[09:05] <ardchoille> GionnyBoss: And you get this with right clicking on a mp3 file?
[09:05] <Shaba1> hey fold
[09:05] <GionnyBoss> ardchoille, but only on my laptop, on my desktop computer I open files with xmms from nautilus with no problem
[09:05] <Shaba1> do they make and ipcop for unbuntu
[09:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> where do i get vncviewer for ubuntu
[09:05] <ikonia> mig: are you trying to use xinerama or the ati functionality for dual screen
[09:05] <Woodstokk> anyone here running on a Mac...even an OS9 Mac that might talk to me about it?
[09:05] <mig> The aticonfig settings.
[09:05] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: sudo apt-get install vncviewer
[09:05] <GionnyBoss> ardchoille, if I right click, I can't see XMMS in the applications ... I try to add XMMS and I get this error
[09:06] <TKitch> soundray:  I don't know.  I tried 3 keyboard.  PS/2 and USB and USB adapters and couldn't do anything.  Start swapping hardwarte (since I've done everything else.)  Bam.  It now sees a keyboard
[09:06] <ardchoille> GionnyBoss: Do you have xmms installed on that machine?
[09:06] <mig> I tried Xinerama and others but no luck.
[09:06] <slyfox> Scunizi: let me google
[09:06] <ikonia> mig: whats "others
[09:06] <Latitude^> if i set up a fat32 partition, can linux write on it? I just need a partition that works with both linux and windoze until i fully switch to edgy
[09:06] <soundray> TKitch: consider also the possibility that your hardware is weird.
[09:06] <Scunizi> slyfox:  it's in synaptic I think.  It's also part of the UbuntuCE edition.
[09:06] <mig> MergedFb was the other.
[09:06] <GionnyBoss> ardchoille, sure... I tryed to re-install it too and to restart my computer with no success. I can open XMMS and play files, but I'd like to do it directly from Nautilus. and this "Open with ..." doesn't work when I select XMMS
[09:07] <iniakulohhahaha> anyone here can tell me what packages that supported with apt-get install look like xampp ? ( all in webserver packaged )
[09:07] <`nicola> is it possible in gnome to move a .desktop voice from a submenu to another one ? thanks
[09:07] <ikonia> mig: I suggest you either hit #xorg - or #ati (probably ati as xorg hates chatting about nvidia/ati) for detailed config help
[09:07] <K3nto> ardchoille: there is a config file and you can add the windowed mode option
[09:07] <soundray> Latitude^: yes, it can. Although it's better to share a ext3 partition (use ext2fsd in Windows to read/write to it)
[09:07] <Fu22y_Lojik> I'm gonna be bak in a sec, it is hard to keep up at this low res, will try on my windoze machine. BRB
[09:07] <ardchoille> K3nto: Ah, good to know
[09:07] <TKitch> soundray:  Asus A7A133 Mobo, Athy 1.2, 640RAM, and a Visiontek AGP card.  Is possible, I suppose
[09:07] <UbuntuAr> Thanks, again predaeus!  I made it to completion...
[09:07] <mig> ikonia: Will try those then.
[09:07] <K3nto> ardchoille: yes it is, but it doesnt work
[09:08] <K3nto> lol
[09:08] <Shaba1> damn
[09:08] <ardchoille> K3nto: hehe
[09:08] <Shaba1> now I forgot my question
[09:08] <Tavo_89> ciao
[09:08] <Tavo_89> anzi hello
[09:08] <Latitude^> soundray: ext2fsd? is that something that i install on windows? sory for sounding stupid
[09:08] <TKitch> (And now I'm running a memory test before I even attempt to install it.  Here's to hoping!)
[09:08] <`nicola> is it possible in gnome to move a .desktop voice from a submenu to another one ? thanks
[09:08] <slyfox> Scunizi: thank you, I will look into this one too.
[09:08] <soundray> Latitude^: yes
[09:08] <predaeus> UbuntuAr: no problem, you are welcome.
[09:09] <Scunizi> slyfox: sure thing.
[09:09] <Latitude^> you have a link on that?
[09:09] <DaveTarmac> is anyone in here familiar with madwifi-tools?
[09:09] <zYe> can anyone help me set up a linksys wrt300n router
[09:09] <soundray> Latitude^: comes up first on Google
[09:09] <Tavo_89> hem... sorry,  i have a matter with aMule..
[09:09] <alex_mayorga> hi, anyone knows how to recover the splash boot image? looks I deinstalled unintentionally
[09:09] <Random_Transit> is anyone having bandwidth issues with the repos right now??
[09:09] <iniakulohhahaha> hello
[09:10] <Lazergunz> :) just wondering how  to uninstall an ATI driver i didnt mean to install :P
[09:10] <iniakulohhahaha> anyone here can tell me what packages that supported with apt-get install look like xampp ? ( all in webserver packaged )
[09:10] <jojoman02> slyfox: try timeout and timeout in repo, you gonna have to google for intsructions
[09:10] <Random_Transit> iniakulohhahaha, reboot with your edgy cd in and choose "Install LAMP Server"
[09:10] <Tavo_89> ATI driver is difficult but nVidia I install with automatix
[09:10] <jojoman02> slyfox: timeout & timeoutd *
[09:11] <linuxnoobzzzz> how do i check which version of ubuntu im using
[09:11] <iniakulohhahaha> Random_Transit : icant, because my box rite now running as gateway cant be disconnected
[09:11] <alex_mayorga> linuxnoobzzzz, type "uname -a" in a terminal
[09:11] <Tavo_89> for ATI i have a guide
[09:12] <Andy50> slippyr4 : sorry I had to run, what was the lvm display cmd again ?
[09:12] <linuxnoobzzzz> nice, thanks alex
[09:12] <Random_Transit> iniakulohhahaha, then apt-get install apache2* mysql5 php5* that should give you a basic setup
[09:12] <DaveTarmac> is there a gui that will help me manipulate the madwifi drivers?
[09:12] <Random_Transit> !ubotu LAMP
[09:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:12] <necrodrako> how do i upgrade ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake to edgy eft 6.10?
[09:12] <Lord_Maynoth_42> how do I install the vnc view for ubuntu
[09:12] <zYe> can anyone help me set up a linksys wrt300n router
[09:12] <Random_Transit> necrodrako, do a sudo update-manager -c
[09:12] <soundray> !upgrade > necrodrako, read the pm from ubotu
[09:12] <iniakulohhahaha> necrodrako : just change your dapper to edgy at your source.list
[09:12] <Tavo_89> i prefer Dapper
[09:13] <kyja> is there an app to get free video streems? like pbs  and things
[09:13] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: I answered that. What's the problem?
[09:13] <tunganet> Anyone know why i can't use my numberpad to use items in warcraft 3?
[09:13] <Random_Transit> iniakulohhahaha, that method is broken as hell....
[09:13] <Shark-1> wow
[09:13] <Shark-1> so i dust out my computer and now everything installs perectly
[09:13] <vox754> kyja, I think vlc does. But I only get sound.
[09:13] <kyja> oh ok
[09:13] <iniakulohhahaha> ??? Random_Transit : really ? :( i dont know that sorry
[09:13] <`nicola> is it possible in gnome to move a .desktop voice from a submenu to another one ? thanks
[09:14] <dtolj> Lord_Maynoth_42: apt-get install xvncviewer
[09:14] <NetCruZa> In Windows you can type ALT+255 (on the numpad) to create a special character, how can you make special characters in Ubuntu? I mean, not by opening some program, but by entering their values just like in Windows
[09:14] <iniakulohhahaha> cause i do that on my breezzy up to dapper
[09:14] <alex_mayorga> linuxnoobzzzz, np
[09:14] <Shark-1> i guess computers just need a little bit of TLC and they run perfectly
[09:14] <Shark-1> im sticking with ubuntu now
[09:14] <vox754> DaveTarmac, I recall you. Did you compile everything? Does it work?
[09:14] <ardchoille> Is the update notifier icon supposed to sit in the tray all the time? Even when the system is up to date?
[09:15] <Tavo_89> on sources.list (iniakulll....)
[09:15] <DaveTarmac> hey there vox754: yes and no. it worked last night, but this morning when i turned the machine on - nadda. think you could help?
[09:15] <NetCruZa> ardchoille, no
[09:15] <Random_Transit> iniakulohhahaha, yeah, a lot of people had troubles with your method....myself included....the better idea is to do a sudo update-manager -c. the -c flag will tell update manager to look for new repositories and download from them instead
[09:15] <iniakulohhahaha> i c
[09:16] <alex_mayorga> I agree on the sudo update-manager -c
[09:16] <paradizelost> anyone around who can help with feisty? the +1 room is dead
[09:16] <Lazergunz> How do I uninstall, an ATI driver :P that i clearly didn't mean to install haha.
[09:16] <paradizelost> i'm trying to get nvidia-glx to work, but when i use the nvidia module, X doesn't start
[09:16] <paradizelost> if i try to manually modprobe nvidia, i get "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia"
[09:16] <arrow> does someone know how to make a file with a list of all of the folders in a particular directory, without permissions, only the names of the folders?
[09:16] <vox754> DaveTarmac, well, if it did work then you just need to set up some configuration file to make the changes permanent. And as I told you, I have no Atheros card so I can't be specific. Besides right now I don't have time.
[09:16] <quaal> how do i access gnome sessions from command line
[09:17] <jlgaddis> arrow: "ls -1 > myfile" ??
[09:17] <dsquare> hi can anyone please tell me how to plat a .bin and .cue movie file????
[09:17] <dtolj> quaal: Ctrl+Alt+F8
[09:17] <DaveTarmac> vox754: ok. thanks anyway. i don't suppose you know which configuration file, do you?
[09:17] <paradizelost> dsquare, those aren't a file format, they are disc images
[09:17] <paradizelost> dsquare, they need to be burned to a disc
[09:17] <vox754> DaveTarmac, "/etc/network/interfaces" is the closest I can think of.
[09:17] <dsquare> paradizelost, ok but its a movie.. maybe i could just mount it?
[09:18] <dsquare> is there a built in way to mount an image?
[09:18] <paradizelost> you can with .ISO's but i don't know about bin/cue's
[09:18] <Stormx2> Hey. How do I send a task to background (its normally noisy, too. No output, plz)
[09:18] <quaal> dtolj what is that. i am looking for Sessions. where you set what starts up in gnome
[09:18] <n-iCe> hwo can i use "auto replace" in xchat????????????'
[09:18] <cables> n-iCe, one ? is enough.
[09:18] <cables> n-iCe, ask the #xchat channel.
[09:18] <iniakulohhahaha> ty all ill b back if i found any problem :)
[09:18] <soundray> dsquare: you can probably play it as an iso after converting with bchunk
[09:19] <n-iCe> thank you
[09:19] <dtolj> quaal: ps aux
[09:19] <dsquare> ok soundray ill try that thanks :)
[09:19] <soundray> paradizelost: I've responded in +1
[09:19] <necrodrako> when i try to upgrade ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake to edgy eft 6.10 by changing sources.list, how do i open it as root?
[09:19] <quaal> dtolj, you dont know what i am talking about.
[09:19] <ardchoille> n-iCe: Setting -> Advanced -> Auot Replace
[09:19] <soundray> necrodrako: 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:19] <n-iCe> I know but to send a message
[09:19] <alex_mayorga> how do I recover the boot splash? what's the package name?
[09:19] <arrow> jlgaddis: that worked for the folders in desktop, but do you know how to specify which folder to make a list of?
[09:19] <ardchoille> n-iCe: Oh, no idea.. I use irssi
[09:20] <n-iCe> ardchoille,  there can i create popups
[09:20] <n-iCe> ?
[09:20] <iniakulohhahaha> anyone have idea about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=180 ( i want to create local webserver )
[09:20] <Stormx2> n-iCe: Ask in #xchat
[09:20] <ardchoille> n-iCe: I don't know, I don't use xchat
[09:20] <Stormx2> Hey. How do I send a task to background (its normally noisy, too. No output, plz)
[09:20] <vox754> ardchoille, what do you use, and why?
[09:20] <soundray> !usplash > alex_mayorga, read ubotu's pm please
[09:21] <dtolj> quaal: you want to see gnome processes/sessions ? run this ps aux |grep gnome
[09:21] <arrow> jlgaddis: actually I just found out how, thanks a lot
[09:21] <stratusfear> alex_mayorga usplash or splashy
[09:21] <bernard1> Anyone with experience with using wireless adapter & Ubuntu PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pm me.
[09:21] <DaveTarmac> vox754: ok, cheers
[09:21] <jlgaddis> Strom_C_: "command & >/dev/null 2>&1" do what you want?
[09:21] <alex_mayorga> thanks
[09:21] <AlexC_> bernard1: or you could just ask you're question in here.
[09:21] <ardchoille> vox754: I use irssi because it allows me to log in and out of different window managers without quitting irc.. and I can use it in tty 1-6
[09:21] <quaal> dtolj, I need to SET the STARTUP programs. this is located in "sessions" I need the command for this Sessions.
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> just a quick question, a bit off topic...are there any "legal" dvd players for linux>?
[09:22] <alex_mayorga> souundray, problem is when I try that there are 0 options
[09:22] <cables> quaal, go to System>Preferences>Sessions
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> or are our laws designed around microsoft
[09:22] <cables> LordLimeca1, not that I know of
[09:22] <bernard1> Ok - what do you believe the best options are for using a wireless adapter that doesn't have linux drivers.
[09:22] <quaal> cables, i dont have gnome available.
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> wtf
[09:22] <quaal> i need the command.
[09:22] <ardchoille> vox754: There are days when I don't even have X running. screen sessions + irssi + elinks allows me to chat and websurf in tty1 ;)
[09:22] <quaal> i am currently in fluxbox
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> you mean that ppl basically passed a law that you need _WINDOWS_ to play dvds
[09:22] <AlexC_> !ndiswrapper | bernard1
[09:22] <ubotu> bernard1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:22] <dtolj> quaal: ok sorry: System->Preference->Sessions click on Start up
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> limecat is not amused
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> -_-
[09:22] <quaal> jesus
[09:22] <dtolj> quaal: ok sorry: System->Preference->Sessions click on Start up
[09:23] <Borat> hey, does anyone know how i can find out what Xorg i am runnign?
[09:23] <cables> quaal, you could at least mention you're on fluxbox before you ask the question.
[09:23] <bernard1> AlexC_: I love you.
[09:23] <AlexC_> bernard1: steady now =)
[09:23] <||drake||> Borat, check /etc/X11/xorg
[09:23] <ardchoille> AlexC_: haha
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> ontopic question--i remember back in school, if we wanted somethin to run at startup, we edited some init.d script....where is the equivalent in this new boot process
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> im using edgy, btw
[09:24] <soundray> LordLimeca1: /etc/rc.local
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> ah
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> thankee
[09:24] <||drake||> anyone know how i can install ubuntu on a computer with an XGI graphics card?
[09:24] <bernard1> Be right back - hopefully on linux! :)
[09:25] <slyfox> jojoman02: Ok, thanks. I will look into it.
[09:25] <LordLimeca1> they didnt change it in edgy?
[09:25] <LordLimeca1> that file does not exist as of now
[09:25] <arn> hey guys:) funny OS ubuntu, i just turned off my VNC player, but still its playin in sound device:)
[09:25] <cables> arn, :)
[09:25] <jojoman02> slyfox: you need a program to block internet access to webpages or to limit access to a computer for certain users at certain times?
[09:25] <arn> arn, how can i stop that:)
[09:25] <skiloup> Is a special SATA controller driver or kernel update required for Western Digital drives in edgy?
[09:25] <cables> arn, see if the process is still running
[09:26] <dtolj> !xinitrc
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinitrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <AlexC_> skiloup: nope,
[09:26] <LordLimeca1> skiloup--no
[09:26] <arn> i also tried to play another movie, and now both movie sound it coming parallely now :D
[09:26] <LordLimeca1> i just popped my windows hd on, and its a WD
[09:26] <slyfox> jojoman02: 2nd
[09:26] <dtolj> quaal: add ~/.xinitrc and put programs u want to start
[09:26] <LordLimeca1> its mounted and everythin
[09:26] <cables> arn, that's a feature, not a bug :) try and find if the process is still running.
[09:26] <LordLimeca1> did you mount it?
[09:26] <rsl> Howdy!
[09:26] <cables> arn, try killall vlc
[09:26] <soundray> ||drake||: I would ask XGItech
[09:26] <arn> cables, nice feature :D
[09:26] <jojoman02> slyfox, come to #ubuntu-classroom
[09:27] <LordLimeca1> soundray--rc.local doesnt exist
[09:27] <Enverex> Is anyone here in Canada? (I have a regional question)
[09:27] <LordLimeca1> im using edgy
[09:27] <LordLimeca1> not dapper
[09:27] <slyfox> Enverex: I am
[09:27] <skiloup> I ask b/c I get kernel messages reporting i/o errors and it renders my disk read only... I couldn't even get through the formatting using ext3 fs, and have been good with a jfs fs until today
[09:27] <arn> cables, "no process vnc"
[09:27] <||drake||> soundray: XGItech?
[09:27] <soundray> LordLimeca1: check again
[09:27] <LordLimeca1> arn
[09:27] <LordLimeca1> VLC
[09:27] <LordLimeca1> not vnc
[09:27] <||drake||> whar
[09:27] <Enverex> slyfox, How much is your standard unleaded petrol at the moment?
[09:27] <edgymike> I have a weird problem.  Using Big Desktop, I need to set the gnome resolution to a big resolution, but it doesn't have the one that fits my configuration in the drop down menu.  Is there a file where I can add the right setting?
[09:27] <cables> arn, LordLimeca1, sorry about that type
[09:27] <quaal> dtolj, that file does not exist. i need to remove programs that are starting automatically because they have made my screen blank. they were added in the gnome sessions program. i need to know where this file is
[09:27] <arn> LordLimeca1, yep i treid "vnc" :)
[09:27] <cables> arn, LordLimeca1, * typo :)
[09:27] <soundray> ||drake||: that is the company that makes XGI graphics devices
[09:28] <AlexC_> Enverex: erm?! That is not ubuntu related. Go in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:28] <arn> typo;)
[09:28] <slyfox> Enverex: Hmm... I am too noob for this "standard unleaded petrol"  what does this mean ?
[09:28] <cables> arn,  I typoed typo... wow.
[09:28] <rsl> How do I change the color of the titlebar? I've looked all over the settings but can't seem to find a place to change it. I don't want to change the theme. I like that. But the color of the titlebar clashes with my desktop.
[09:28] <arn> cables, ok:D
[09:28] <LordLimeca1> nv,m :D
[09:28] <dtolj> quaal: hmm
[09:28] <AlexC_> slyfox: he means car petrol, something that has nothing to do with Ubuntu at all.
[09:28] <arn> now, someone tell how to solve this bug or feature?:)
[09:28] <cables> rsl, you'll have to edit the theme
[09:28] <cables> arn, did you try killall vlc?
[09:29] <rsl> cables, got a good url that'll show me how? :)
[09:29] <ardchoille> rsl: The titlebar is managed by the window manager (Metacity), you can install a new Metacity theme to change it.
[09:29] <slyfox> AlexC_: :-)
[09:29] <arn> cables i tried "killall nvc" but it says "no process vnc"
[09:29] <LordLimeca1> *cough BERYL cough*
[09:29] <cables> arn, VLC not VNC.
[09:29] <slyfox> Enverex: About 101.9
[09:29] <rsl> ardchoille, like I said... I don't want to change the theme. Just the color of one part of the theme.
[09:29] <ardchoille> rsl: http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/
[09:29] <soundray> arn: VLC (as you've been told already)
[09:29] <Evil_`> anyway I could make me pressing a couple of keys take a sreenshot?
[09:29] <ardchoille> rsl: Ah, in that case, open the theme in a text editor and change all you want.
[09:29] <LordLimeca1> evil_
[09:29] <cables> arn, killall vLc, not killall vNc
[09:29] <arn> ohhhh cables, are you ok? i tried "vnc"
[09:29] <LordLimeca1> you want pritscreen to work?
[09:30] <Evil_`> basically
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> one sef
[09:30] <Evil_`> ok
[09:30] <quaal> i found it.
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> theres a keybinding prog built in
[09:30] <quaal> sudo rm  /home/username/.config/autostart/filename
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> gotta find it
[09:30] <cables> arn, you're doing it wrong! try killing vlc! with an L! not an n!
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> system-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts
[09:30] <jlgaddis> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1322  =)
[09:30] <soundray> Evil_`: that function is bound to PrintScreen by default
[09:30] <dtolj> quaal: try running sysv-rc-conf to remove unneeded processes
[09:30] <arn> good god!!!
[09:30] <arn> jahid@jahid-laptop:~$ killall vlc
[09:30] <arn> vlc: no process killed
[09:30] <ardchoille> rsl: I would advise copying the theme to ~/.themes and working on it there, so you have a backup in /usr/share/themes just in case.
[09:31] <cables> arn, ok, you typoed vlc like 5 times when telling me you ran it.
[09:31] <LordLimeca1> evil_:
[09:31] <arn> joking;)
[09:31] <quaal> dtolj, i cant control a black screen !
[09:31] <LordLimeca1> when you get into the keyboard shortcut manager
[09:31] <soundray> Evil_`: Alt-PrintScreen takes a shot of the active window
[09:31] <LordLimeca1> the name of the key is "print
[09:31] <dtolj> quux: where are you now?
[09:31] <jlgaddis> arn: kill `ps auxwww|grep -i vlc|awk '{ print $2 }'`
[09:32] <arn> nice feature of Ubuntu indeed ::)
[09:32] <arn> jlgaddis, it worked, feature stopped working:)
[09:32] <bernard1> :(
[09:33] <jlgaddis> arn: Good.  =)
[09:33] <LordLimeca1> soundray--IIRC, i just symbolically link stuff into the rc5.d folder to make that binary run @ graphical login?
[09:33] <bernard1> Can anyone offer assistance with ndiswrapper?
[09:33] <rsl> Thanks, ardchoille and cables. Once I saved my custom theme, I found it in ~/.themes. :)
[09:34] <soundray> LordLimeca1: no, if you just want to call a local script at startup, you call it from /etc/rc.local
[09:34] <dazjorz> Hey
[09:34] <topdogapbt> I just installed ubuntu this morning, partioned my c: and all of my media is located on a second HD, a d: drive, problem is, I can't access those drives, I'm not sure how to explore to get to those media files, any help?
[09:34] <Greys> was there a relase of the ubuntu livecd iso within the last 4-6 months that had some kind of problem with the installer?
[09:34] <dazjorz> I'm sure I read this message on a forum today and I'm also pretty sure I read a solution, I just can't remember what nor where it was
[09:34] <n-iCe> how can i use more than one command in one line ?
[09:34] <n-iCe> doesn't work | right ?
[09:34] <LordLimeca1> alright
[09:34] <soundray> LordLimeca1: if you insist on tying it into the init.d script stuff, read man update-rc.d
[09:34] <bernard1> Can anyone offer assistance with ndiswrapper?
[09:34] <stratusfear> bernard1 what wireless card do you got?
[09:35] <dazjorz> I'm getting "LibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" when starting Beryl
[09:35] <lufis> topdogapbt: Your secondary media drive is probably in ntfs. you'll need to install a driver
[09:35] <ardchoille> rsl: You can rename that theme and put it in /usr/share/themes if you want it to be available to all users of the system.
[09:35] <lufis> !ntfs
[09:35] <soundray> n-iCe: yes ; it does ; try this ;
[09:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:35] <bernard1> stratusfear: I have an SMC Wireless Adapter
[09:35] <omglazers> Can someone here help me out and tell me why whenever I try and boot to a new install of 6.10 ubuntu I get a message at post when booting: "Error Loading Operating System" even though ive installed it twice and got the same things even after formatting the entire drive prior twice?
[09:35] <topdogapbt> which driver?
[09:35] <n-iCe> ; <--- this ?? instead | ???
[09:35] <lufis> !ntfs > topdogapbt
[09:35] <rsl> ardchoille, there's just one user on the system. Heh. Me.
[09:35] <soundray> n-iCe: | is when you want processes to communicate
[09:35] <bernard1> stratusfear: I can give you my part number if that would help?
[09:35] <GionnyBoss> in all games using SDL sound (like ZSNES or Neverball, Neverput), I get an horrible sound in Ubuntu. How can I fix this, please?
[09:35] <topdogapbt> alright, lemme go fine that
[09:35] <soundray> n-iCe: example: ls | wc
[09:36] <n-iCe> in xchat
[09:36] <n-iCe> i mean
[09:36] <topdogapbt> !nfts
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nfts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <soundray> n-iCe: I thought you meant the shell :(
[09:36] <serengeti> hello everyone, any ideas why compiz doesn't work on my Radeon 8500 with opensource drivers? the message I get is as follows: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8448/
[09:36] <quangle> hey guys, how do I check from within the shell how much space a folder and all sub folders/files take up?
[09:36] <Valandil> join ubuntu-fr
[09:36] <soundray> !ntfs > topdogapbt
[09:36] <ardchoille> topdogapbt: typo :/
[09:36] <n-iCe> soundray,  no, sorry =p , how can i use more than one command in xcat any idea?
[09:36] <stratusfear> bernard1 hold on
[09:36] <Valandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[09:36] <serengeti> you're probably quite tired of questions of that kind ;)
[09:36] <soundray> !goodbotuse > n-iCe
[09:37] <soundray> !goodbotuse > topdogapbt
[09:37] <n-iCe> soundray,  ?
[09:37] <soundray> n-iCe: sorry, I didn't mean to send that to you
[09:37] <ardchoille> n-iCe: He's had too much coffee, lol
[09:37] <n-iCe> =p
[09:37] <gravemind> can you make symbolic links with nautilus?
[09:37] <LordLimeca1> wow, you can pipe in here? o.0
[09:38] <LordLimeca1> irc rocks
[09:38] <serengeti> quangle, http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/22.html
[09:38] <soundray> ardchoille: too little ;)
[09:38] <ardchoille> gravemind: ALT+drag and drop
[09:38] <bernard1> For ndiswrapper - do I simply burn the .tar file to a cd and when in Linux load it?
[09:38] <gravemind> ardchoille: cool, thanks
[09:38] <ardchoille> soundray: lol
[09:38] <topdogapbt> thanks y'all, I'll fiddle with this for a few seconds and let y'all know
[09:38] <nxsoniq> Does anyone knows how to set up a SMC2835W PCMCIA wireless card?
[09:38] <gravemind> ardchoille, so the link acts like the real file?
[09:39] <amigrave> how can I change the order of the buttons for an usb joystick ?
[09:39] <Anixo> Can someone help me fix my usb stick so I can actually save files on it. I finished a project on Ubuntu for school and now I cant save it :/
[09:39] <Anixo> I plug it in. Ubuntu mounts it, but is read only.
[09:39] <bernard1> !ndiswrapper
[09:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:39] <LordLimeca1> anixo
[09:39] <ardchoille> gravemind: Sorry, if you ALT then click you'll only drag the window. You need to click and drag, then ALT+drop
[09:39] <nxsoniq> thnx a lot
[09:39] <LordLimeca1> i may be wrong...but i THINK you can remount that as RW
[09:39] <soundray> Anixo: check if it has a tiny locking switch
[09:39] <cambazz> hello ubuntu people
[09:40] <LordLimeca1> hello :D
[09:40] <LordLimeca1> test > LordLimecat
[09:40] <cambazz> I was wondering if there are any gentoo users here
[09:40] <ardchoille> gravemind: Not sure, make one and find out :)
[09:40] <Anixo> soundray: no switch. It is one of those random sticks anyway
[09:40] <gravemind> ardchoille: okz
[09:40] <cambazz> I am gentoo user, planning to migrate to ubuntu
[09:40] <Askar>  Fel uppstod vid hantering:
[09:40] <Askar>  python-mutagen
[09:40] <Askar> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:40] <Askar> WHy?
[09:40] <Anixo> How I remount my stick in RW anyone?
[09:40] <cambazz> in ubuntu, how is the kernel managed? can we custom compile kernels, or do we have to?
[09:41] <ardchoille> cambazz: I have been using Ubuntu since Warty and never needed to mess with the kernel.
[09:41] <LordLimeca1> anixo:  go into the terminal
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> cambazz, you may, but don't have to. See !software.
[09:41] <LordLimeca1> and type "mount -l"
[09:41] <omglazers> Would anyone here mind helping me with a ubuntu-install problem?
[09:41] <LordLimeca1> tell me what you see (looking for fat or fat32 entries)
[09:41] <skiloup> What would cause my kernel to print messages to dmesg indicating "i/o error, dev, sda sector 177825108"?  I have a Western Digital SATA drive
[09:41] <cambazz> ok, nice.
[09:42] <Askar> omglazers: what do you need help with?
[09:42] <LordLimeca1> skiloup--is that at startup?
[09:42] <gravemind> ardchoille: it works. click drag alt drop
[09:42] <bernard1> How come when I go to system > administration > network and look at the properties on my wireless connection it doesn't allow me to enter my wep key - it only has 3 options?
[09:42] <omglazers> Askar: I keep getting a message after I install and reboot "Error loading operating system"
[09:42] <ardchoille> gravemind: Cool :)
[09:42] <gravemind> ardchoille: it gives a little menu asking what you want to do (move, copy, link)
[09:42] <ardchoille> gravemind: Yes, I like it
[09:42] <topdogapbt> hey it worked, ok, now for the last part, an app to play my mp3 files...
[09:42] <Shark-1> why is edgy's startup screen black and white
[09:42] <topdogapbt> I've tried to install a few, but what works best?
[09:42] <omglazers> Askar: Twice it did that, after reformatting and fresh installs
[09:43] <ardchoille> topdogapbt: I use xmms for mp3's
[09:43] <soundray> Shark-1: it's a known bug on amd64
[09:43] <gravemind> topdogapbt: I like audacioius, but it's really individual preference
[09:43] <skiloup> LordLimecal-- No, I cannot even format a ext3 fs without getting the error, I have been running a jfs fs until now without getting the messages.... once I get the message, my drive is rendered readonly
[09:43] <Askar> omglazers: maybe try a new installcd?
[09:43] <Shark-1> soundray do you think it will get fixed in later versions?
[09:43] <LordLimeca1> oh, i dont get that o.0
[09:43] <LordLimeca1> dunno
[09:43] <ardchoille> topdogapbt: gravemind has a good point. Try several and see which one you like best.
[09:43] <LordLimeca1> AMAROQ FTW
[09:44] <K3nto> LordLimeca1: ca you help me with beryl and something else
[09:44] <LordLimeca1> yep :D
[09:44] <omglazers> Askar: I could but now I have no system to download and burn it on
[09:44] <LordLimeca1> msn
[09:44] <Anixo> LordLimecal: /dev/sdc on /media/STICK type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) [STICK] 
[09:44] <Shark-1> why would one use 64-bit version of ubuntu over 32-bit
[09:44] <LordLimeca1> or private irc channe;
[09:44] <gravemind> LordLimeca1: amarok doesn't play flac (latest build) :(
[09:44] <LordLimeca1> its ntfs?
[09:44] <LordLimeca1> why is yer usb pen drive ntfs
[09:44] <gravemind> Shark-1 I do, it's faster
[09:44] <Askar> hmm livecd isnt working?
[09:44] <LordLimeca1> should be fat
[09:44] <soundray> Shark-1: it's faster for memory i/o intensive processes
[09:44] <omglazers> Askar: No, the livecd boots fine. and installs fine.
[09:44] <omglazers> Askar: But when I reboot it cant boot to the linux
[09:44] <topdogapbt> ok, I've tried to install a few from the apps menu, but that didn't seem to get it right,
[09:44] <gravemind> Shark-1: but is is more annoying to do things sometimes :P
[09:44] <TFS_Mac> Hi Guys.
[09:44] <TFS_Mac> I have a small Problem while booting Ubuntu 6.10 (CD) on a dual Monitor-Setup.
[09:44] <TFS_Mac> After loading, it sets some Refresh-Rates which are "a little bit" off. -> 180 Hz / 81 kHz
[09:44] <omglazers> Askar: it gets errors trying to load it
[09:44] <soundray> Shark-1: for regular desktop use, there's no advantage
[09:45] <K3nto> LorcLimeca1: #wowhelpLime
[09:45] <Anixo> LordLimecal: yes, it was used on windows until I had to work with linux for my project
[09:45] <gravemind> Shark-1: synaptic installs stuff a lot faster
[09:45] <Shark-1> gravemind do you use edgy?
[09:45] <gravemind> Shark-1: yes
[09:45] <Shark-1> gravemind, have you tried feisty?
[09:46] <gravemind> Shark-1: no, haven't
[09:46] <Anixo> LordLimecal: is there a way to fix it and save files on it?
[09:46] <Shark-1> the feisty iso doesnt boot on my am64-X2
[09:46] <mig> ikonia: Managed to fix things, nearly. Any idea why the mouse cursor would be showing up as a massive image?
[09:46] <LordLimeca1> well, i dont kmnow, ive heard that there are ntfs drivers that allow RW, but never messed with it
[09:46] <soundray> Shark-1: join #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[09:47] <gravemind> Shark-1 thats why it's not released yet i guess :). Try an alternate install cd maybe
[09:47] <ikonia> mig: overall screen resolution ??? no idea
[09:47] <Anixo> LordLimecal: so if I make it fat will be ok then?
[09:47] <andatche> hey, I've just installed feisty and am trying to set up my 3com pcmcia wireless card, I have blacklisted the relevant prism54 modules, installed ndiswrapper and the required utils and installed the windows driver. ndiswrapper is showing that both driver and hardware are present, yet when I modprobe ndiswrapper it doesn't claim the card. an lshw shows it as unclaimed... anyone any ideas?
[09:47] <mig> ikonia: Resolutions and everything is sorted out, just have a large weird image instead of mouse cursor on second monitor.
[09:47] <Lord_Maynoth_42> can anyone tell me where I can get an up2 date vnc viewer for edgy?  the one that comes with it isn't compat with 4.1.2 I have installed on windows
[09:47] <soundray> andatche: join #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[09:47] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and the java client works but is slow as crud
[09:48] <andatche> soundray: ok, ta
[09:48] <Shark-1> join #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <Shark-1> woops
[09:48] <thedcm> can somone tell me what makes ubuntu better than aryan linux (http://free.bol.bg/aryan/)
[09:48] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: try xvnc4viewer
[09:48] <ikonia> mig: ahhh now that you mention it, it just clicked there WAS a problem with the mouse and ati drivers earlier on, a few people have mentioned it. There is/was no fix for it. Search launchpad for the bug
[09:48] <thedcm> can somone tell me what makes ubuntu better than aryan linux (http://free.bol.bg/aryan/)
[09:48] <gravemind> it's not racially supreme?
[09:49] <ikonia> thedcm: thats up to you to find out
[09:49] <mig> Thanks, I'll see if I can find anything.
[09:49] <ikonia> thedcm: its personal opinions
[09:49] <soundray> ikonia: please don't feed
[09:49] <tunganet> whats feed
[09:49] <soundray> tunganet: feed the troll
[09:49] <thedcm> m not trolling
[09:49] <tunganet> soundray: ok i get i lol
[09:50] <ikonia> soundray: ahhh missed that he was trolling
[09:50] <Greys> are there any actual advantages with kubuntu over ubuntu, or is that just opinion
[09:51] <Flannel> Greys: they're just different.  One WM over the other.
[09:51] <ikonia> greys opinion
[09:51] <soundray> Greys: it's mostly a matter of visual and operational preference
[09:51] <tunganet> does trolling mean repeating the same sentence over and over until they get what they want?
[09:51] <Anixo> LordLimecal: I got another stick I had around which is fat, but it wont mount it automatically. The LED on the stick is lid but it wont do anything
[09:51] <gravemind> does kde crash more, or is it a myth
[09:51] <soundray> tunganet: no, it means inciting discussion for the sake of it
[09:51] <tunganet> oh ok
[09:51] <soundray> tunganet: derived from "to trawl", a fishing method
[09:52] <X704> meh
[09:52] <tunganet> LOL OHH
[09:52] <X704> I have one partition for windows (fat32) and 3 (22gigs) for different Linux installs and one swap partition, why can't I format the last 22gig partition? it says that it is hidden.
[09:52] <thedcm> gravemind: kde is just as stable as, if not more than, gnome
[09:52] <gravemind> thedcm: kk
[09:53] <misfit_toy> is there a release date for Feisty?
[09:53] <Anixo> 19 april
[09:53] <darkcommon> feisty??
[09:53] <X704> any idas ^^^?
[09:53] <misfit_toy> cool, thx Anixo
[09:53] <soundray> !feisty > darkcommon
[09:54] <darkcommon> wow 7.04
[09:54] <tecta> i installed compiz then uninstalled it and deleted everything compiz left behind... and want to reinstall it but it doesnt create the files i deleted? any help
[09:54] <murph2481> how do i add gdesklets to the startup of ubuntu?
[09:54] <soundray> X704: which program are you using to partition/format?
[09:54] <darkcommon> murph2481 starting apps
[09:54] <murph2481> darkcommon where is that?
[09:54] <xamox> how do I get a script to run at boot as root user? rc-update or something like that right?
[09:54] <Flannel> tecta: you want to make sure you "remove completely" or --purge the packages
[09:54] <bimberi> xamox: /etc/rc.local
[09:54] <X704> hmm
[09:55] <Frezeeer> hi I have a problem I cant write in a Fat32 partition, yesterday I could, now I cant anymore... some help? by the way only root can, I havent changed anything
[09:55] <misfit_toy> tecta, try this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:55] <tecta> Flannel: what do u mean?
[09:55] <soundray> X704: if you aren't sure, close it and use gparted
[09:55] <X704> ok, QTParted is what I used
[09:55] <darkcommon> i dont remember
[09:55] <murph2481> how do i add gdesklets to the startup of ubuntu?
[09:55] <soundray> X704: qtparted should be able to un-hide it for you
[09:55] <Flannel> tecta: when you removed the packages, You didn't remove the config files, so they won't get reinstalled.  You need to "complete removal" (in synaptic) or remove with the --purge option (in apt-get)
[09:56] <soundray> murph2481: add it in System-Preferences-Session-Startup Programs
[09:56] <tecta> Flannel: ok thanks brb
[09:56] <xamox> murph2481, System->Preferences->Sessions, there is a tab where you can add it.
[09:56] <ne78> How do i enable TV Out on a i945GML chip ?  when i try i get: Option "TVStandard" is not used, Option "TVOutFormat" is not used etc..
[09:56] <X704> it only hides it when I create a swap partition from it
[09:56] <topdogapbt> how should I got about download/installing xmms? if I got to their website, which distro suits ubuntu?
[09:56] <topdogapbt> they have fedora and redhat versions
[09:56] <Flannel> topdogapbt: xmms is in the repositories
[09:56] <soundray> murph2481: and have some patience when you've asked a question
[09:56] <darkcommon> topdogapbt Debian
[09:56] <darkcommon> topdogapbt "sudo aptitude install xms
[09:57] <darkcommon> *"sudo aptitude install xmms"
[09:57] <misfit_toy> topdogapbt: sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:57] <murph2481> perfect thanks :)
[09:57] <murph2481> sorry
[09:57] <tunganet> Anyone know why i can't use my numberpad to use items in warcraft 3?
[09:57] <murph2481> anyone else notice with desktop effects on sometimes the windows just stay blank, you have to turn effects off and then you see the text
[09:58] <topdogapbt> unable lock the admin directory /var/lib/dpkg<--this good or bad? lol
[09:58] <Flannel> topdogapbt: you need to close other package managers first
[09:58] <Flannel> topdogapbt: Synaptic, Aptitude, update-manager, etc
[09:58] <X704> soundtray: it only hides the partition when I create a swap partition from it
[09:58] <LordLimeca1> and run as sudo
[09:58] <darkcommon> topdogabt use "sudo aptitude install xmms"
[09:58] <topdogapbt> ok it works thanks
[09:58] <TFS_Mac> X704: are your Partitions Primary or Logical/Extended? I think you can only create 4 Primary Partitions on one HD.
[09:59] <darkcommon> :p
[09:59] <TFS_Mac> X704: but I don't know much about Linux yet ;)
[09:59] <X704> oh, really?
[09:59] <topdogapbt> i like the fact that I can install things I need from the terminal
[09:59] <topdogapbt> its just gonna take some getting used to
[09:59] <Flannel> topdogapbt: you could just as easily install it from a GUI
[09:59] <topdogapbt> oh
[09:59] <topdogapbt> lol
[09:59] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone know where I can get a newer build of VNC viewer?
[09:59] <jojoman02> can anyone help me with backing up my home direcotry using some gui program?
[09:59] <Lord_Maynoth_42> for ubuntu
[09:59] <gopp> !xubuntu
[09:59] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:59] <topdogapbt> I'm still working my way through this
[09:59] <Lord_Maynoth_42> the one in the repos is too old to work
[09:59] <Flannel> topdogapbt: it's just easier for us to say do "sudo apt-get install yadda yadda] " then "open synaptic, find "xmms" then double click it, then hit apply"
[10:00] <Flannel> !backup | jojoman02
[10:00] <ubotu> jojoman02: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:00] <X704> ok, will try something else...
[10:00] <TFS_Mac> X704:  yes. I think it's a general limitation. But it should work, if you make a extended / logical Partition that contains several partitions
[10:00] <topdogapbt> yeah, it seems easier for me too,
[10:00] <darkcommon> topdogabt the "package" for example, if you type "sudo aptitude install openoffice" it cant install openoffice, the pachage don't exists
[10:00] <tecta> hmm... there is not bar showing on the top of apps like File Edit all that in compiz / xgl
[10:00] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: do I always have to answer your question twice?
[10:00] <darkcommon> Flannel the terminal is more direct
[10:00] <TFS_Mac> X704: logical Partitions behave like Primary ones, but you normally can not boot from them
[10:00] <ardchoille> How do I change update-notifier settings?
[10:00] <jojoman02> Flannel: thankz
[10:00] <ardchoille> nvm, found it
[10:01] <Flannel> tecta: #ubuntu-effects for Xgl support
[10:01] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: HELLO?
[10:01] <darkcommon> well
[10:01] <TFS_Mac> Is there anybody who knows about the boot-process of Ubuntu?
[10:02] <Lord_Maynoth_42> sorry soundray im having trouble picking your messages out of the crowd
[10:02] <topdogapbt> so now I should be able to d/l my the pics from my digital camera and put them on the drive with the most room, say the c: now right?
[10:02] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: get your IRC client to highlight your replies for you
[10:02] <TFS_Mac> I just can't get it to work on my Sys. It always sets a refresh-Rate of 180 Hz of my Monitor
[10:02] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: pay attention to the private message from ubotu, coming up:
[10:02] <soundray> !info xvnc4viewer > Lord_Maynoth_42
[10:03] <i> how i can change my ubuntu password because i lost it
[10:03] <gholen> Whats the problem with the securetyserver, everything seems to have a faulty MD5checksums, thus maikingit impossibale for me to upgrade my system?
[10:03] <oasmar1> Hi
[10:04] <soundray> i: boot in recovery mode (choose on the boot menu) and run 'passwd username'
[10:04] <SmileyLap> Hi guys.... i hve a strange problem. I connected to a new wireless network, and now the icon for amsn which was in the system tray has "gone" !
[10:04] <TFS_Mac> You guys seem to be a little bit busy, so I say Goodbye
[10:04] <herjok> plz help i lost ubuntu pasword
[10:05] <_`XeOn_> does any1 here use CoD in ubuntu?
[10:05] <gopp> hey any one know that software that allows you to share one mouse with two desktop that is windows and linux
[10:05] <Zaggynl> How do I play .ram files?
[10:05] <gholen> Someone?
[10:05] <gopp> what the name of the software
[10:05] <oasmar1> Im having a problem with Beryl, when i run it, the top bar dissapears (the one with the _ []  X buttons)
[10:05] <Dr_willis> gopp,  syngery
[10:05] <gopp> Zaggynl reaplayer
[10:05] <gopp> Dr_willis thanks
[10:05] <quaal_> gopp, a switch ?
[10:05] <Dr_willis> gopp,  syngery or somthing like that.
[10:05] <Flannel> oasmar1: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[10:05] <gopp> !syngery
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syngery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <oasmar1> thanks :D
[10:05] <Dr_willis> i never can spell it right
[10:05] <Zaggynl> gopp reaplayer is the name of the app in ubuntu
[10:05] <Zaggynl> ?
[10:05] <gopp> yea I that what I think it called
[10:05] <gopp> z0rz yea
[10:05] <_`XeOn_> !CoD
[10:05] <gopp> Zaggynl
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <gopp> !realplayer > Zaggynl
[10:06] <X704> TFS_Mac: so can I have a secondary partition for the swap?
[10:06] <tecta> i wish xgl was stable
[10:06] <Zaggynl> thx
[10:06] <SmileyLap> Hi guys.... i hve a strange problem. I connected to a new wireless network, and now the icon for amsn which was in the system tray has "gone" !
[10:06] <quaal_> does anyone know what causes a black screen after login to gnome
[10:06] <atomiku> So ive got gparted open, and i wanna resize the / partition to be bigger. First of all: is it safe? is there any chances of it mucking it up? also, can I need to unmount / before i can resize it, should there be a problem with unmounting / then remounting it after ive resized it?
[10:07] <gholen> Whats the problem with the securetyserver, everything seems to have a faulty MD5checksums, thus maiking it impossibale for me to upgrade my system? Does someone know why?
[10:07] <dtolj> quaal_: do you have X running?
[10:07] <quaal_> dtolj, i am currently running in fluxbox yes
[10:07] <SmileyLap> Hi guys.... i hve a strange problem. I connected to a new wireless network, and now the icon for amsn which was in the system tray has "gone" !
[10:07] <quaal_> but gnome fails to show anything but a black screen
[10:07] <soundray> !repeat | SmileyLap
[10:07] <ubotu> SmileyLap: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:07] <edibleegg> just curious if anyone is experiencing the same problem I am, i have edgy, with beryl and after sometime, firefox will stop loading pages, and text entry into anything (terminal) will go extremely slow
[10:07] <atomiku> SmileyLap: probably a bug, kill the amsn process and restart it.
[10:07] <ernz> Hi, can someone please tell me how to mount an ext3 partition, and get it to show up in "Computer" and in the Disk Mounter Applet?
[10:08] <dtolj> quaal_: are you uxing Xubuntu?
[10:08] <quaal_> dtolj, i am using ubuntu
[10:08] <atomiku> SmileyLap: do a ps x, find the amas PID then do kill -9 PID
[10:08] <atomiku> *amsn
[10:10] <dtolj> quaal_: do you have the gnome libraries installed?
[10:10] <topdogapbt> what about deleting files from the mounted drives?
[10:10] <peija-kas> ubuntu admins, a guy with the nickname "thedcm" is asking on other channels for help in flooding #ubuntu channel
[10:10] <ernz> I am currently using "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1" - and although that DOES mount the right thing in the right place, the device doesn't show in the "My Computer"
[10:10] <atomiku> !ops
[10:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:10] <peija-kas> "<thedcm> who wants to help me flood #ubuntu"
[10:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> COOLlll
[10:10] <quaal_> dtolj, what are the gnome libraries. everything was working fine until moments ago when compiz froze the system
[10:10] <atomiku> peija-kas: ops on their way
[10:10] <quaal_> and i had to ctrl-alt-bksp out of it
[10:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> thank you so much soundray!
[10:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> that fixed it
[10:11] <atomiku> So ive got gparted open, and i wanna resize the / partition to be bigger. First of all: is it safe? is there any chances of it mucking it up? also, can I need to unmount / before i can resize it, should there be a problem with unmounting / then remounting it after ive resized it?
[10:11] <bernard1> Once I've extracted ndiswrapper1.38 to my desktop - how do i compile it?
[10:11] <soundray> Lord_Maynoth_42: I'm glad
[10:11] <Seveas> atomiku, ?
[10:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I will only use xchat from now on
[10:11] <george> When i tried to install the nvidia drivers by running sudo sh NVIDIA.i386.run it gave me some error about not having libc installed
[10:11] <atomiku> Seveas: <peija-kas> ubuntu admins, a guy with the nickname "thedcm" is asking on other channels for help in flooding #ubuntu channel
[10:11] <bugga> Hola!
[10:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ugg i hate this icechat irc client
[10:11] <Dr_willis> atomiku,  resizing the partition you are currently running from/mounted - is not doable..  best to use a live cd with the gparted tools
[10:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> LOL
[10:11] <Seveas> atomiku, thanks
[10:11] <Seveas> peija-kas, thanks as well
[10:12] <atomiku> Seveas: youre welcome :)
[10:12] <peija-kas> np
[10:12] <peija-kas> happen to use Ubuntu myself ;)
[10:12] <Sufixx> Hi, does anybody know why in fstab I haven't got normal /dev/xxx, just something like that?: UUID=a5737313-88d3-4d60-ac16-760e820ccd6b / reiserfs defaults 0 1
[10:12] <bugga> quien habla espaol?
[10:12] <Seveas> !es | bugga
[10:12] <atomiku> Dr_willis: Hmm...
[10:12] <ubotu> bugga: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:12] <atomiku> Shall I give it a shot anyway
[10:12] <atomiku> try unmounting the / partition
[10:12] <atomiku> I dont see why there should be a problem, as long as ubuntu doesnt try to read/write anything lol
[10:13] <soundray> !uuid > Sufixx, please read the private message from ubotu
[10:13] <ernz> Anyone, please?
[10:13] <atomiku> Anybody have any reasons why I shouldn't unmount my / partition so I can resize it?
[10:13] <Sufixx> oh, ok I've just moved from 6.06 to .10
[10:14] <Seveas> atomiku, you can't unmount /
[10:14] <atomiku> oh.
[10:14] <atomiku> ill boot onto livecd later and do it then :)
[10:14] <atomiku> what is the chance of losing any data by making the / partition bigger?
[10:14] <atomiku> 0% I hope...
[10:14] <dtolj> quaal_: so its a compiz issue try asking on #ubuntu-effects
[10:14] <peija-kas> atomiku the system would get a fit if root becoame unmounted :D
[10:14] <atomiku> peija-kas: thanks
[10:14] <peija-kas> so livecd u must use
[10:15] <Seveas> atomiku, standard advice applies "backup!"
[10:15] <soundray> atomiku: there's always a small risk associated with operations like that.
[10:15] <soundray> atomiku: remember, data you haven't backed up is data you don't want
[10:15] <atomiku> yeah
[10:15] <atomiku> youre right
[10:15] <atomiku> I have nowhere to back it up to... no wait, disregard that - I have another hard drive linked up.
[10:16] <topdogapbt> ok, one more quick questions, how do I remove files to free up some space on the mounted drives?
[10:16] <godofredo07_> hey guys
[10:16] <quaal_> dtolj, it has happened before, when compiz did not exist on the computer
[10:16] <soundray> topdogapbt: 'sudo apt-get autoclean' is a sound way (cleaning package cache)
[10:16] <quaal_> i believe it is a gnome issue, since i am logged into fluxbox
[10:16] <atomiku> I'm gonna make a script that puts all my home dir into a tar and puts it on my other harddrive, then ill set that up in a crontab :)
[10:17] <godofredo07_> i have a crazy question... :)
[10:17] <soundray> atomiku: either that, or have a look at sbackup
[10:17] <dtolj> quaal_: ic is there an error message?
[10:17] <godofredo07_> does anyone use mumble?
[10:17] <quaal_> dtolj, it is a black screen
[10:18] <aegisthis> yo anyone arounf?
[10:18] <aegisthis> *around?
[10:18] <soundray> aegisthis: no
[10:18] <Vorian> lol
[10:18] <aegisthis> lol
[10:18] <soundray> such a bad old joke
[10:18] <AmericanMohawk> apt-get install whatever
[10:19] <aegisthis> does anyone have a fix for missing nvidia.ko after dist-upgrade?
[10:19] <soundray> !info whatever
[10:19] <ubotu> Package whatever does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[10:19] <ikonia> re-install nvidia glx
[10:19] <Seveas> %quit brb!
[10:19] <aegisthis> done (upgrade to feisty)
[10:19] <ikonia> fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:19] <AmericanMohawk> !info irssi
[10:19] <assasukasse> between gnomebaker and brasero which one is better
[10:19] <soundray> !goodbotuse > AmericanMohawk
[10:20] <aegisthis> ta
[10:20] <soundray> !best > assasukasse
[10:20] <AmericanMohawk> good morning soundray
[10:20] <assasukasse> soundray: what's that?
[10:20] <_`XeOn_> can any1 help imstalling Call of Duty?
[10:20] <brian_> Does ANYONE know how to change the resfresh rate of the live cds boot?
[10:20] <soundray> assasukasse: please read the private message from ubotu
[10:20] <JairunCaloth> can someone help me make sure OpenGL is working properly
[10:21] <soundray> AmericanMohawk: good evening AmericanMohawk ;)
[10:21] <assasukasse> soundray: i didn't get any msg from ubotu
[10:21] <assasukasse> !best
[10:21] <AmericanMohawk> how is ubuntu holding up?
[10:21] <assasukasse> !best assasukasse
[10:21] <Vorian> soundray, ubotu was gone for a bit there :)
[10:21] <gholen> Whats the problem with the securetyserver, everything seems to have a faulty MD5checksums, thus maiking it impossibale for me to upgrade my system? Does someone know why?
[10:21] <_`XeOn_> any gamers support?
[10:21] <AlexC_> ubotu: and where have you been?
[10:21] <godofredo07> hi guys
[10:22] <AlexC_> hi,
[10:22] <godofredo07> anyone know anything about ALSA?
[10:22] <soundray> Thanks Vorian -- assasukasse, please be patient
[10:22] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[10:22] <AlexC_> !anyone | godofredo07
[10:22] <AmericanMohawk> #alsa
[10:22] <SmileyLap> atomiku: ....
[10:22] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:22] <ignas> hi
[10:22] <SmileyLap> i killed the 4 processes. however it does the same thing over and over
[10:22] <Vorian> hi ignas
[10:22] <soundray> assasukasse: ^^ ubotu
[10:22] <AlexC_> ooo, Ubotu's gone on strike it seams
[10:22] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB
[10:22] <SmileyLap> amsn not working :::: attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead
[10:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:22] <godofredo07> I have Mumble to talk to my friends during Enemy Territory...I can either hear one or the other!!!!!!
[10:22] <atomiku> SmileyLap: try submitting the bug
[10:22] <godofredo07> argh
[10:22] <ubotu> godofredo07: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:23] <assasukasse> soundray: then my question was wrong: which one is more reliable between the two?
[10:23] <atomiku> SmileyLap: hope it gets fixed in next version.
[10:23] <AmericanMohawk> ubuntu is good for installing mysql and mediawiki
[10:23] <SmileyLap> atomiku: it was working earlier today :?
[10:23] <godofredo07> AlexC_, sorry
[10:23] <soundray> assasukasse: I haven't had a problem with either
[10:23] <_`XeOn_> any gamers support?
[10:23] <atomiku> SmileyLap: Ahh, then I dont know - Sorry. Try reasking your original question :)
[10:23] <Borat> Is anyone familiar with beryl deadly signal 6????
[10:23] <soundray> assasukasse: wait, I haven't tested brasero, sry
[10:23] <gholen> support my ASS.... There is nothing but ignored people in here....
[10:23] <_`XeOn_> yep
[10:23] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: lol
[10:24] <assasukasse> soundray: i am testing gnomebaker, since brasero burnt a coaster with herd5
[10:24] <IndyGunFreak> 1081 users can't be wrong
[10:24] <SmileyLap> gholen: amen :)
[10:24] <Flannel> Borat: #ubuntu-effect for beryl support
[10:24] <godofredo07> ALSA makes me angry!
[10:24] <SmileyLap> heh
[10:24] <_`XeOn_> i got 20 minutes here asking and nothing
[10:24] <soundray> !patience
[10:24] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:24] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: you mean Game support? A person who plays games is a Gamer. But yes, there is.
[10:24] <godofredo07> I can't listen to Mumble and play A game...
[10:24] <ignas> i have a 1280x1024 resolution monitor but my laptop only can do 1024x768, i have set Virtual 1280x1024, and set the dual screen so it would show same thing as my main screen does, but my big monitor is still being used as a 1024x768 with scrolling :/
[10:24] <SmileyLap> the size of your IRC channel is not equivilent to having "good" support :-/
[10:24] <ignas> is there any way to fix that ?
[10:25] <AmericanMohawk> I recommend looking in on Electronic Arts and using Windows XP for games
[10:25] <_`XeOn_> AlexC_, so where i get support for making Call of Duty run?
[10:25] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: SmileyLap Do you know why the md5 fails when its a perfectly fresh system, and the md5 fails?
[10:25] <SmileyLap> ignas: yes but no idea how to do it in ubuntu :-x, btw its claled Dmix.
[10:25] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: look into Cedega or Wine
[10:25] <Greys> is there a channel for help recovering from botched ubuntu install attempts
[10:25] <SmileyLap> gholen, mine fails too.
[10:25] <soundray> Guys, the level and quality of knowledge varies in here. Please educate yourselves and help out if you want to see improvement
[10:25] <SmileyLap> 2day old install.
[10:25] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: how fast are you burning the disks?
[10:25] <_`XeOn_> nothing there
[10:25] <AlexC_> Greys: you're in it.
[10:25] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: The are pressed by Ubuntu ^^
[10:25] <tnux> hry can anyone help me here. I can't get sound to work. Fail to get a pipeline working. I use an ES Maestro 2E
[10:25] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: what's not there?
[10:25] <Greys> alex, is there a known issue with edgies install program
[10:25] <_`XeOn_> AlexC_, i already tried that but theres no howtos
[10:26] <jin> hi
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: well, try to download and burn your own.
[10:26] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: there are loads.
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> if that doesn't work, download and use the Alternate install CD.
[10:26] <_`XeOn_> AlexC_, for my expecific issue
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> and burn them SLOW... 2-4x
[10:26] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: tryed that one too
[10:26] <Dr_willis> soundray,  but they want it NOW!!!!
[10:26] <godofredo07> how do i find out what sound config a program uses...AKA Wolfenstein
[10:26] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: you never said about an issue/problem
[10:26] <jin> I have just installed Dapper and there are updates available, are these updates for dapper only? because I don't want updates from edgy. they are unstable
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: what type of media are you using?
[10:26] <jin> !nvidia
[10:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: CDs
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> duh..
[10:26] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  you refering to "RTCW" - return to castle wolfensetein?
[10:26] <_`XeOn_> AlexC_, should be simple but i cant find the way
[10:27] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: CDR, CDRW
[10:27] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, actually enemy territory
[10:27] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: well if you wont tell me the problem, I cant help...
[10:27] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, please say you can help me :)
[10:27] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  RTCW:ET has several command line options.. and lots of docs/web sites with info on it.
[10:27] <jin> I have just installed Dapper and there are updates available, are these updates for dapper only? because I don't want updates from edgy. they are unstable
[10:27] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: As i said, they are the ne I orded throu ShipIt
[10:27] <AlexC_> !repeat | jin
[10:27] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: but you said you've tried downloading and burning also.
[10:27] <ubotu> jin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:28] <peppe84> where I download msttcorefonts?
[10:28] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Yep! CD-R ONLY
[10:28] <jin> thx alejandro
[10:28] <IndyGunFreak> ok.. and i'll ask again
[10:28] <_`XeOn_> AlexC_, game is installed as in loki installation guide said but when i run game it says wine(x)/cedega not in PATH
[10:28] <jin> AlexC_,
[10:28] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, I feel like I have exhuasted my resources...I just don't know what do do any more...Teamspeak doesn't work with ET neither does Mumble...... :(
[10:28] <soundray> peppe84: use the package manager
[10:28] <gholen> been with the hell of CD-RW erlier
[10:28] <IndyGunFreak> when you burned them, how fast did you burnt hem
[10:28] <soundray> !msttcorefonts > peppe84, please read the private message
[10:28] <SmileyLap> attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead < Anyone?
[10:28] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: 2x (or to times the speed)
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: did you try the alternate install CD?
[10:29] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Yep, that one too, I preffer that one
[10:29] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, what if I run Enemy Territory in wine and ran Ventrilo in wine...Would the sound mix?
[10:29] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  so you HAVE sound in RTCW:ET but cant get sound to work in both at the same time?  ET and TS?
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> well, sorry, i dont know what else it could be
[10:29] <peppe84> soundray, yes. but the server is down. is impossible install it.
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: does the live CD work ok?
[10:29] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, exactly my friend
[10:29] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  and what is your sound card?
[10:30] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, sblive
[10:30] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  that thing should handle the mixing.
[10:30] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: No problems at all! Tried it out in servel mashines
[10:30] <Dr_willis> I dont have TS installed however.
[10:30] <soundray> peppe84: be patient then. No use wrecking your system using by bypassing the package manager.
[10:30] <ernz> Lunar eclipse. Awsome
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: something isn't right..
[10:30] <peppe84> soulcatcher_, thanks
[10:30] <soundray> ernz: good point. I'll have a look at that now
[10:30] <SmileyLap> attempt to provide package tls 1.5 failed: package tls 1.50 provided instead < Anyone?
[10:30] <soundray> Bye
[10:30] <quaal_> ooook
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> in theory, if you run live mode ok, and w/o issue, you should be able to get it installed.
[10:30] <quaal_> now gnome is working again
[10:30] <quaal_> after a reboot
[10:30] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, its not even TS anymore...I though Mumble would work since it uses ALSA but to know avail......... :(
[10:30] <quaal_> iiiiinteresting
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> quaal_: do you dualboot with windows"
[10:31] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  the old games like ET use the oss drivers I do belive
[10:31] <Zaggynl> How do I set up Firefox 1.5.10 to play ram files automagically?
[10:31] <quaal_> IndyGunFreak, i have windows installed but have not run it in weeks
[10:31] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, what do you suggest, doctor?
[10:31] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: I know, thats why I'm Asking :P Have used ubuntu sience the wharty, and never ever had this problem
[10:31] <Zaggynl> The ubuntu guide only mentions Firefox 2 :(
[10:31] <SurfnKid> what port does dig use?
[10:31] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  disable sound in the game. if you must use that voice stuff
[10:31] <SurfnKid> 53?
[10:31] <george> When i try to install the nvidia driver it says i need to install the libc development package..  how do i go about doing that?
[10:31] <lordmaynoth> sorry to bother you guys again
[10:31] <lordmaynoth> im using xchat this time
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> quaal_: well, ubuntu feels left out not needing restarted 4x a day..lol
[10:32] <lordmaynoth> YAY
[10:32] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, someone suggested aoss?
[10:32] <sivik> lordmaynoth, whats the problem
[10:32] <quaal_> IndyGunFreak, pfft :P
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> gholen i have no logical explanation.
[10:32] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, what do you think?
[10:32] <lordmaynoth> how do I make my powerbutton turn the computer off in edgy
[10:32] <kane77> george, look for libc_version-dev
[10:32] <AlexC_> press it
[10:32] <lordmaynoth> LOL
[10:32] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Okey, thanks anyway
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: what type of hardware do you have?
[10:32] <lordmaynoth> it just brings up a screen
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> any oddball stuff
[10:32] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  never used it.. never had the issues.. I got a Creative Audigy2zs - so i rarely have any sound issues.
[10:32] <newbi3> hi
[10:32] <Dr_willis> !info xqf
[10:32] <ubotu> xqf: X-based Quake Server Browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1728 kB
[10:32] <george> kane77: is that something i have to download?
[10:33] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, huh.. :( this is disappointing
[10:33] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: AMD Cpu, S 754, DVD-RW Drive, Two IDE-harddrives. Nvidiacard
[10:33] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: 512 Mb RAM
[10:33] <robdeman> folks I just installed apache2 + php5 and Im getting that Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()  error... ehrm.. but I enabled mysql? php_info() shows the mysql extension is loaded
[10:33] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, I either don't talk to my teammates or I get owned cuz I can't hear anything :(
[10:33] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,   i dont see how you can hear them anyway with all the gunfire/grenades
[10:33] <Zaggynl> !realplayer
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <Dr_willis> !teamspeak
[10:33] <newbi3> I've a little question: why use Ubuntu?
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <AlexC_> robdeman: #php #apache #mysql
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: now this may stupid, but my DVD R/RW drives(Lite ON), has always had issues burning CDRs/RWs... have you tried DVDR?
[10:34] <godofredo07> newbi3, It is stable!
[10:34] <Ltar> I can't log into terminal as superuser?
[10:34] <Dr_willis> newbi3,  why not. :)
[10:34] <godofredo07> newbi3, it is secure!
[10:34] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Yes, that too, my last dvd :(
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> damn.
[10:34] <AlexC_> Dr_willis: was just about to say the same!
[10:34] <godofredo07> newbi3, it is fast!
[10:34] <AlexC_> !sudo | Ltar
[10:34] <ubotu> Ltar: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:34] <newbi3> why not use Slackware?
[10:34] <newbi3> or similar?
[10:34] <Dr_willis> why use it over... windoes.. or other disrtos.. or why use a pc over a pen and paper...
[10:34] <TheVault> I was reading that Kubuntu is basicly Ubuntu but with a different desktop environment. If thats true, how do I install KDE without having to install Kubuntu?
[10:34] <AlexC_> newbi3: Why troll? =)
[10:34] <tuxcrafter> how do i test 2D rendering preformance?
[10:35] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Some way to Force it to install exept the -f option
[10:35] <Dr_willis> Each disrto has its own strengenths and weekness.. thats the end of it all..
[10:35] <newbi3> ;?
[10:35] <Flannel> TheVault: that depends on what you mean by 'KDE'
[10:35] <godofredo07> KDE is now match for Gnome...just my 2 cents
[10:35] <Dr_willis> use what you want, that does what you want,, in a way you want.
[10:35] <godofredo07> no*
[10:35] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: not that i know of, only system iv'e ever had issues installing Ubuntu was Xubuntu on my older laptop, and the Alternate install worked perfectly first try
[10:35] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  i find kde more then a match for gnome.. :) but linux makes it trivial to change from one to the other.
[10:35] <TheVault> Flannel: What do you mean?
[10:35] <Flannel> TheVault: do you just want Kubuntu installed?  Or, You want the 'official' KDE (which has some differences from Kubuntu), or do you just want a minimal KDE WM?
[10:35] <newbi3> there is a live CD on Ubuntu?
[10:36] <george> !Nvidia
[10:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, true
[10:36] <AlexC_> newbi3: yes, the Desktop CD
[10:36] <gholen> Well well, will tray again tomorrow
[10:36] <simontol> hi anyone here who as tried Feisty?
[10:36] <Flannel> simontol: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[10:36] <AlexC_> simontol: #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <jin> netstream[ra0: Receiving 516 KB/s, Sending 39 KB/s] 
[10:36] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, don't you think gnome is faster?
[10:36] <AlexC_> :P
[10:36] <sivik> Flannel, whats the difference between kubuntu and kde
[10:36] <Ltar> alrite, im just trying to get the terminal to run as root- I get an authentication error, but I know i'm putting in the passowrd correctly, the same password allows me to enter other root-only areas, such as time and date.
[10:36] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  not really
[10:36] <newbi3> ok thx
[10:36] <TheVault> How would I say this? The look and the feel of Kubuntu but really having Ubuntu
[10:36] <AlexC_> godofredo07: Gnome VS KDE will only lead to a flame war, please - don't.
[10:36] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  its not faster if i have to rethink how to do what i want to do at the moment.
[10:36] <sivik> TheVault, thats what KDE is for
[10:36] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, sorry
[10:36] <printerproblems> Dr_willis, my printer issues had nothing to do with 64bit or 32bit i ran into far worse problems on my 32bit installation
[10:36] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: sorry man, i just can't understand what the issue is.
[10:37] <Dr_willis> printerproblems,  bummer man. what printer is this anyway?
[10:37] <Flannel> TheVault: ubuntu and kubuntu are both Ubuntu, the former two are desktop environments, and  you can have htem both insalled on the same Ubuntu system
[10:37] <jin> take all conversation not related to Ubuntu Support to some where else please
[10:37] <printerproblems> lexmark z600
[10:37] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: You tried, i cant ask for more
[10:37] <Flannel> TheVault: install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package, to get Kubuntu
[10:37] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, i've learned that i end up switching back and forth and can't decide :)
[10:37] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: yeah, but somethin isn't jiving,
[10:37] <TheVault> Flannel: How would I do that then?
[10:37] <gholen> Thanx anyway, if things lightens up, Il tell you
[10:37] <Flannel> sivik: Just like the difference between Ubuntu and Gnome, some of the programs are different than default KDE (for instance, in Gnome, you get Epiphany, in Ubuntu, you get Firefox)
[10:37] <IndyGunFreak> ok....
[10:37] <printerproblems> on my 32 bit installation, i cant access synaptic or install packages at all
[10:37] <sivik> Flannel, ok, wasn't sure
[10:38] <printerproblems> because the deb i installed became unstable
[10:38] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: there we go, are you trying the 64bit install, or the 32bit?
[10:38] <printerproblems> and i cant even figure out how to remove it
[10:38] <TheVault> So I could switch between GNOME and KDE with a few clicks?
[10:38] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: 32 bits
[10:38] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, where are you downloading them?
[10:38] <fran> hi all
[10:38] <Flannel> TheVault: yep.  You choose between them when you login
[10:38] <fran> where i can find how to install shake 4 ?^^^
[10:38] <godofredo07> ALSA is not working with my sblive sound card because I can't listen to TeamSpeak and play Enemy Territory :( any suggestions?
[10:38] <Ltar> alrite, im just trying to get the terminal to run as root- I get an authentication error, but I know i'm putting in the password correctly, the same password allows me to enter other root-only areas, such as time and date.
[10:38] <TheVault> But I don't have to make no partition for that right?
[10:39] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: From the mirror in sweden, and from france
[10:39] <TheVault> Its just Ubuntu but I choose GNOME or KDE?
[10:39] <Flannel> TheVault: nope.  They both sit on the same Ubuntu (the distro) installation
[10:39] <TheVault> alrighty
[10:39] <AlexC_> Ltar: root has no password by default with Ubuntu. Use Sudo instead.
[10:39] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.. well, obviously i've never used those, but have you considered a US mirror?
[10:39] <TheVault> How do I get KDE then, so I can do this
[10:39] <tuxcrafter> godofredo07: is there a enemy territroy for linux ? :-D
[10:39] <Flannel> TheVault: install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[10:39] <AlexC_> TheVault: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <TheVault> Alrighty, Thanks guys
[10:39] <godofredo07> tuxcrafter, yes..... :) I like it
[10:39] <lordmaynoth> sorry
[10:39] <lordmaynoth> had to reboot
[10:39] <Ltar> Alex: oh, alrite. sudo su worked. weird
[10:40] <chavo> enemy territory rocks!
[10:40] <Flannel> Ltar: don't sudo su, if you want a root shell, use sudo -i
[10:40] <Dr_willis> chavo,  heh - just noticed that xqf has support for it.
[10:40] <lordmaynoth> isn't their an applet that you can change what function pushing the powerbutton does?
[10:40] <TheVault> Reason I am asking is because I wanted to triple boot Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Windows Xp but then I was reading something about switching between GNOME and KDE and I had remembered that it was the same but with differ desktop environments
[10:40] <Ltar> Flannel: what's the difference?
[10:40] <AlexC_> I think I may just change my name to "Anything but AlexC_" ... no one ever calls me AlexC_ but either AlexC Alex or Ale ... ><
[10:40] <IndyGunFreak> gholen?
[10:40] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: ?
[10:41] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Yes?
[10:41] <TheVault> Ltar: you asking whats the difference between the desktop environments?
[10:41] <andy> Hi, I'm running the live cd on a hard drive without an OS on it. How can I check out the contents of the hard drive?
[10:41] <Flannel> TheVault: no, that's just dualboot.  Ubuntu (the distro, where you can run Ubuntu (the DE) or Kubuntu (the DE)) and Windows
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> have you tried US mirrors?
[10:41] <printerproblems> man i guess im just gonna have to go with vista, ubuntus gotta get workin on better compatibility fer peripherals
[10:41] <Flannel> Ltar: sudo -i sets up the environmnt better
[10:41] <AlexC_> printerproblems: Ubuntu is not the only Linux distro out there.
[10:41] <TheVault> Actually, I think Ubuntu is better than Vista
[10:41] <TheVault> Would not recommend Vista to anyone
[10:41] <AlexC_> printerproblems: try Fedora, or Sabayon.
[10:41] <printerproblems> yes but its the best in terms of hardware compatibility, right?
[10:41] <TheVault> Vista = Mac Suck Up
[10:41] <Ltar> Flannel: sudo su gives me a command line "root@name-ubuntu: /home/chuck#
[10:41] <Ltar> sudo -i gives me just root@name-ubuntu:~#
[10:41] <Ltar> what's the difference?
[10:42] <AlexC_> TheVault: as much as I agree. don't =)
[10:42] <godofredo07> do any of you think that if I run AOSS that Enemy Territory might me able to mix with TeamSpeak?
[10:42] <printerproblems> whats sabayon?
[10:42] <TheVault> AlexC: Don't what?
[10:42] <printerproblems> will that allow more things to work?
[10:42] <AlexC_> another Linux distro, printerproblems
[10:42] <bulmer> Ltar one has the root environment the other has the users
[10:42] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Gonna try once more
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: ok, i think i've always downloaded from the Purdue University mirror, never a prob.
[10:43] <atarinox> can somebody help me out setting up Samba, i followed the guide and think I have everything setup properly, but when i try sudo mount -a all i get is a connection failed
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> remember, nice and slow.
[10:43] <lordmaynoth> I just use a spare computer as a print server
[10:43] <TheVault> AlexC: Printer Problems?
[10:43] <AlexC_> TheVault: hum?
[10:43] <lordmaynoth> because it is to painful to make edgy work with my canon printer and scanner
[10:43] <K3nt> could somebody help me run bery? i installed it, now what
[10:43] <lordmaynoth> a cheap older comp would work great just for that
[10:44] <lordmaynoth> run win2k
[10:44] <lordmaynoth> or somethin
[10:44] <TheVault> AlexC: ahh i am confusing myself...nm
[10:44] <AlexC_> TheVault: hehe,
[10:44] <mg_x> Hi. Where to find list of available ubuntu sections
[10:44] <AlexC_> mg_x: sections?
[10:44] <printerproblems> im probably gonna run xp home and then do the free express upgrade that came with the cd
[10:44] <lordmaynoth> anyone here know how to change the functions of the powerbutton?
[10:44] <printerproblems> it pains me to leave ubuntu
[10:44] <jin> !nvidia
[10:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <TheVault> AlexC: I do that sometimes :(
[10:44] <K3nt> !swiftfox
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <tuxcrafter> godofredo07: do you have a link for et linux
[10:44] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Gonna try that one
[10:44] <AlexC_> TheVault: ahh we all get confused at some stage!
[10:44] <mg_x> AlexC_, I'm creating .deb package, there is field "Section: "
[10:45] <lordmaynoth> printer what printer do you have
[10:45] <Flannel> tuxcrafter: There are a few Howtos in the forums
[10:45] <gholen> Rebot now
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: ok, i'll keep my fingers crossed for you
[10:45] <AlexC_> mg_x: oh, I've no idea sorry.
[10:45] <lordmaynoth> i think turboprint might work for you
[10:45] <lordmaynoth> it would for my canon
[10:45] <godofredo07> tuxcrafter, http://mrbass.org/enemyterritory
[10:45] <emdash> having trouble with locale settings in a feisty chroot
[10:45] <emdash> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8458/
[10:45] <TheVault> AlexC: I was confused for awhile about setting up the whole Wireless thing. Every tutorial I read said to use ndiswrapper but I found one using fwcutter and that worked instantly....I was so ticked that I got something big done and knowing that I am a complete noob :)
[10:45] <godofredo07> can someone give me a link for AOSS?
[10:46] <TheVault> *tickled
[10:46] <godofredo07> !aoss
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <godofredo07> is that right?
[10:46] <AlexC_> TheVault: well I'm glad you got it working and stuck with it
[10:46] <godofredo07> argh
[10:46] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  ive never heard of aoss either
[10:47] <emdash> i'm trying to follow these instructions here
[10:47] <emdash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:47] <lordmaynoth> anyone here know how to change the powerbutton's default action?
[10:47] <TheVault> Yeah, What I usually do is run the LIVE CD alot, since I dual booted, and I do everything on the LIVE CD before I do it on the actual ubuntu i installed
[10:47] <emdash> and i've done everything, but when i try to do dpkg-reconfigure locales, it bitches that it can't set the locale
[10:47] <Ltar> can I use Gparted to resize my ubuntu partition (to create a Fat32 partition to share with windows) from within ubuntu? or will I need to access this hard drive from a different HDD in order to modify the partition table?
[10:47] <TheVault> AlexC: Kinda trial and error sorta thing on the LIVE CD
[10:47] <godofredo07> Dr_willis,
[10:47] <AlexC_> TheVault: have you got Ubuntu installed now?
[10:48] <SurfnKid> whats a cli calculator?
[10:48] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, whoops
[10:48] <Dr_willis> aoss - Wrapper script to facilitate use of the ALSA OSS compatibility library.
[10:48] <AlexC_> SurfnKid: Command Line calculator
[10:48] <SurfnKid> AlexC_: yeop
[10:48] <BigMac> Hey, I have deleted all the emails from my evolution mailbox but "mail-notification still shows 20 emails in box
[10:48] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, can I change my system default to OSS?
[10:48] <BigMac> can I fix that somehow?
[10:48] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search aoss
[10:48] <Dr_willis> alsa-oss - ALSA wrapper for OSS applications
[10:48] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  no idea.. i doubt it.
[10:48] <TheVault> AlexC: No. I did not have a 6.10 CD but have a DVD and my desktop does not have DVD reader, so I tried upgrading and it screwed everything up. So now I am re-installing windows and then I am going to dual boot again
[10:48] <jin> how do I know if xorg is using the nvidia driver?
[10:48] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  install that package and see if it helps, (read its docs also)
[10:48] <jin> !mp3
[10:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <SurfnKid> !calculator
[10:49] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, do you know where i can download it?
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calculator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  aoss? its in the repos
[10:49] <TheVault> Went from a 6.06 to 6.10 and it screwed everything up
[10:49] <Ltar> can I use Gparted to resize my ubuntu partition (to create a Fat32 partition to share with windows) from within ubuntu? or will I need to access this hard drive from a different HDD in order to modify the partition table?
[10:49] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, what would I type in the terminal?
[10:49] <Dr_willis> !info alsa-oss
[10:49] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[10:49] <AlexC_> TheVault: ahh that's not good hehe, hope you didn't loose anything!
[10:50] <TheVault> Nah
[10:50] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  install it like you do any other package/file
[10:50] <bulmer> Ltar: you should not be partitioning a mounted partition. even if you can
[10:50] <fran> anybody can help me with shake installation??????
[10:50] <fran> apple shake
[10:50] <TheVault> AlexC: Its always good to have 2 computers. My laptop is my baby, I never experiment with it but the desktop I don't really care about
[10:50] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, yeah...about...that...haven't done it :)
[10:50] <lordmaynoth> :c
[10:50] <simontol>  /join #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  time to learn to walk befor you run.. :)  also theres a site with info on your conflict           http://forum.goteamspeak.com/archive/index.php/t-5844.html
[10:50] <AlexC_> TheVault: hehe that's ok then,
[10:50] <TheVault> AlexC: Once I master everything(well not everything) but get good with, I'll give up Windows on my laptop
[10:51] <lordmaynoth> does anyone here know how change the function of the powerbutton?
[10:51] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, read it :)
[10:51] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, I ALMOST forgot about that
[10:51] <TheVault> AlexC: The program Wine is sounding promising anyway :D
[10:51] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  go ahead.. read away.. im off to play rtcw:ew  or perhaps savage
[10:51] <AlexC_> TheVault: good to hear. I've never personally used wine, but I've heard it's good yeah.
[10:51] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, how do i add that code to my startup?
[10:51] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  which code where?
[10:52] <TheVault> AlexC: Yeah, I could run all my favorite games and or software in Ubuntu. Would never have to worry about Dual Booting
[10:52] <AlexC_> TheVault: being a computer graphics artist (3d) though, I kinda have to keep Windows for Photoshop
[10:52] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, the code for Teamspeak and it says to add it to umm...
[10:52] <godofredo07> Dr_willis, startup config?
[10:52] <atarinox> so i installed network manager in synaptic....do i have to run it from the terminal or what? i can't seem to find it in my menu or run it from command....
[10:52] <TheVault> AlexC: Yeah, I love Photoshop. Heard Gimp was the same software basicly but open source
[10:52] <ssubbiah> Hi ! I am trying to compile the kernel with CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=m to make suspend work in my laptop, but when I issue the make-kpkg command somehow this option is changed back to  CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y and its not compiled as a module anymore ?  :(
[10:53] <ssubbiah> Anyone pointers ?
[10:53] <Ltar> bulmer: If i shouldn't resize a mounted partition, how can I create a FAT32 partition on this disk, to share with windows? will I need to run the partitioner from another install of ubuntu?
[10:53] <Dr_willis> godofredo07,  youve lost me..  but that url has some info on the issue.. of course their fix's may or may not work for you.
[10:53] <TheVault> AlexC: Do you have a laptop with Ubuntu on it?
[10:53] <dtolj> ssubbiah: //j #ubuntu-kernel
[10:53] <lordmaynoth> hello
[10:53] <ssubbiah> sorry thanks ...
[10:53] <AlexC_> TheVault: the Gimp is the same kind of software, and it's great for lots of use, but for anything professinal it just doesn't cut it. Simple things such as Layer Folders, Dynamic brush's such as Size, Rotation and step - Gimp just does not have
[10:53] <AlexC_> TheVault: nope, just 1 desktop
[10:53] <lordmaynoth> can anyone here plz help
[10:54] <lordmaynoth> its not a major problem but I haven't found anything in the forums
[10:54] <lordmaynoth> or google
[10:54] <TheVault> AlexC: Well then this question would be useless then
[10:54] <fran> shake or not to shake
[10:54] <AlexC_> TheVault: it may not be =)
[10:55] <TheVault> AlexC: Ok then. When I setup wireless on a friends laptop, the wireless was slow but hes got a super fast connection with the latest wireless router
[10:55] <TheVault> AlexC: Was going to ask if all wireless for ubuntu is slow?
[10:55] <AlexC_> TheVault: of course not,
[10:56] <SmileyLap> Ok guys, good for one you.  Before i upgraded my ubuntu version, hibernate worked fine. Now, if i hit hibernate, it goes into standby, and never "shuts down".....
[10:56] <AlexC_> TheVault: I don't know much about Wireless though, never had to deal with it in Ubuntu or Windows - so I can't really help sorry
[10:56] <TheVault> AlexC: Oh. Well on my laptop(used LIVE CD) I managed to get the wireless working and it was slow on my computer as well
[10:56] <jussi01> TheVault, is it only in firefox? or the whole connection?
[10:57] <Ltar> this is probably a stupid question but.... what would happen if i unmounted the partition that ubuntu is running in?
[10:57] <jussi01> howare the downloads?
[10:57] <Ltar> in order to resize it, for example...
[10:57] <TheVault> jussi01: Slow in Firefox I guess. Not sure about the whole connection
[10:57] <TheVault> jussi01: Downloads where super slow
[10:57] <Seveas> Ltar, it will say "HA HA you can't do that!"
[10:57] <rlevitin> What is the terminal command to enter ati card config?
[10:57] <rlevitin> I have the ATI binary X.Org driver install
[10:57] <coolguy> How can I end the firefox process?
[10:57] <Seveas> coolguy, pkill firefox-bin
[10:57] <coolguy> Thanks
[10:58] <SmileyLap> Ok guys, good for one you.  Before i upgraded my ubuntu version, hibernate worked fine. Now, if i hit hibernate, it goes into standby, and never "shuts down".....
[10:58] <jussi01> TheVault, obvious question have you tried disabling ipv6?
[10:58] <rlevitin> !ati
[10:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:58] <jussi01> !repeat | SmileyLap
[10:58] <ubotu> SmileyLap: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:58] <TheVault> jussi01: What is that?
[10:58] <SmileyLap> sorry jussi01
[10:58] <SmileyLap> i coudln't see it in the scrollback ;D
[10:58] <codecaine> whats a good program to broadcast your webcam on a webserver?
[10:58] <AlexC_> Well I'd better go before my legs fall off, bye!
[10:59] <TheVault> Bye AlexC
[10:59] <atomiku> cya AlexC_
[10:59] <jussi01> TheVault, Ipv6 is an annoying thing... hmmm let me see if I can find istructions for removing it
[10:59] <TheVault> jussi01: Maybe thats what it was...But I donno
[11:00] <jussi01> TheVault, do you still have access to the computer?
[11:00] <Thialfihar> Howdy, folks.
[11:00] <TheVault> jussi01: I was using the LIVE CD on my computer(laptop) and it was running super slow for firefox for wireless
[11:01] <jussi01> TheVault, here are instructions for you - give this a try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6841&highlight=ipv6
[11:01] <lordmaynoth> does anyone here know what applet controls the functions of the powerbutton?
[11:01] <TheVault> Alright, Thank you.
[11:01] <lordmaynoth> :c
[11:01] <TheVault> I will look into that
[11:01] <Thialfihar> I understand that hyperthreading was disabled in a recent kernel update, yeah? I'm having difficulties turning it back on. I already googled quite heavily and pass "ht=on" as kernel option in the GRUB entry, but nothing I did so far actually made it work.
[11:01] <lordmaynoth> I cannot find it
[11:02] <Thialfihar> Also... how would I test whether HT is enabled? So far I only see the difference in the Gnome panel thing that shows my CPU usage.
[11:02] <sharperguy> fish
[11:02] <jussi01> TheVault, have fun, let us know if you run into problems
[11:02] <sharperguy> eclipse has started here
[11:02] <SmileyLap> kool
[11:03] <SmileyLap> help me, i can't hibernate :(
[11:03] <SmileyLap> i MUST HIBERNATE!
[11:03] <TheVault> jussi01: i sure will. I'm about to install Ubuntu back onto my desktop. I just gotten windows xp back installed
[11:03] <emdash> is anyone running feisty here?
[11:03] <jussi01> !hibernate
[11:03] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[11:03] <TheVault> I'm also going to setup my USB Wireless Adapter
[11:03] <TheVault> its a Gigafast
[11:03] <lordmaynoth> does anyone here know what applet controls the functions of the powerbutton?
[11:03] <emdash> is anyone running feisty in a chroot, i mean
[11:03] <jussi01> emdash, I am
[11:04] <jussi01> emdash, sorry, Im running feisty normally
[11:04] <tuna-fish> I intend to sell an old machine with hd in it. How can i truly delete the contents of it's hd?
[11:04] <jussi01> !feisty | emdash
[11:04] <emdash> jussi01: i'm trying to set up a feisty chroot, but i'm currently having trouble with locale settings
[11:04] <ubotu> emdash: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: I 'm reinstalling Ubuntu Dapper now, seems to go fine, I'm using the alterna install as of know, my laptop is up and running tough...
[11:04] <Stuartmax> anyone managed to get ubuntu live cd to boot on a dual core petium 4?
[11:04] <sharperguy> SmileyLap, yea, be
[11:04] <sharperguy> feck
[11:04] <Woodstokk> When installing dapper on a Mac, does a hard drive need more than one partition?
[11:04] <lordmaynoth> does anyone here know what applet controls the functions of the powerbutton?
[11:04] <sharperguy> SmileyLap, yea, because you're a polar bear, right?
[11:05] <habilida> Hi.. I have a problem with a sweex usb wireless adaptor.. the chipset is syntek chip.. the kwifimanager detect all the wireless I have close home and mine, but I cant connect to mine, I put the pass and everything correctly as I'm connected on another laptop on the same way...anybody knows why is not connecting? Thx
[11:05] <jussi01> Woodstokk, you still need a swap
[11:05] <Woodstokk> how big should it be jussi01?
[11:06] <emdash> jussi01: thanks anyways (i'll try ubuntu+1)
[11:06] <jussi01> Woodstokk, twice the size of your ram amount
[11:06] <jussi01> emdash, sorry i couldnt help
[11:06] <Woodstokk> ok... so two partitions only?
[11:06] <jin> !compile
[11:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:06] <Woodstokk> one of them fairly small
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: well thats good.
[11:06] <jussi01> Woodstokk, i would reccomend 3, one as root, one as /home and one as swap
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: why dapper though?
[11:07] <Thialfihar> Anyone got any info on how to enable hyperthreading? I'm using Edgy.
[11:07] <jussi01> Woodstokk, what size is you hdd and ram
[11:07] <Woodstokk> the hd is 6G... just to get an idea if I really want to go with this long term and...
[11:07] <Woodstokk> have about.... 400 megs of ram iirc
[11:07] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Because Edgy is like D-link, beatuful on the outside, crap inunder :(
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: ??? I love edgy
[11:08] <Woodstokk> 430 megs now that I think a minute
[11:08] <jussi01> ok, so with tht small hdd, 2 partitions, 1 x 5gb, 1x 1gb
[11:08] <godofredo07> yeah!
[11:08] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Nothing but problem for me, lost mu swap maybu a hundred timis when in edgy
[11:08] <godofredo07> okay..I have less of a problem now
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: and i've never had a problem with D-Link either..lol
[11:09] <godofredo07> I have gotten enemy territory to run with a weird clicky stuttery sound using aoss! Now, how do i get rid of it?
[11:09] <Woodstokk> ok, and when I do the partition, should I do that from running OSX (Still have OS9 available)
[11:09] <lordmaynoth> does anyone here know what applet controls the functions of the powerbutton?
[11:09] <jussi01> Woodstokk, use gparted
[11:09] <Woodstokk> and... 'Disk Utility"
[11:09] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: The D-Link stuff they resell in sweden sucks  bigtime
[11:09] <veracon_> What is the file I need to modify to run commands upon logon again? *forgetful*
[11:09] <Woodstokk> where do I find that?
[11:09] <jussi01> !repeat | lordmaynoth
[11:09] <ubotu> lordmaynoth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:09] <godofredo07> So I semi have Enemy Territory working with AOSS...I do I get rid of the clicking and weird noise??????
[11:10] <jussi01> Woodstokk, it will do it with the ubuntu installer
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: i don't know, i have 3 PC's in the house, 2 PCs, 1 laptop(no wireless), 2 PC's are running Ubuntu 6.10, laptop is Xubuntu 6.10, and they all run fine with my Linkssys router
[11:11] <Woodstokk> so I don't even need to set up the hd... just run the installer?!!!?!?!?!
[11:11] <jussi01> Woodstokk, just choose the whole drive option - that will give you the best options for your computer
[11:11] <veracon_> Hm, would modifying ~/.profile do?
[11:11] <godofredo07> does anyone here have experience with AOSS?
[11:11] <jussi01> Woodstokk, no, just run the installer :D
[11:11] <Woodstokk> fantastic...thank you!
[11:11] <isak1005> Hello. I've just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and wants to upgrade to 6.10 - I've heard that it is possible through the system without reformatting, but I am kind of a Linux noob, and I do not know what to do. Would someone please help me? :)
[11:12] <jussi01> !upgrade
[11:12] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> godofredo07: just ask, if someone can help, they will.
[11:12] <bulmer> isak1005: what is the need for upgrading?
[11:12] <DrMitch> latest != greatest
[11:12] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: The only thing in my house that runs dapper is my laptop, and the reason why, it can hadle suspend and hibernate
[11:12] <Woodstokk> jussi01   BTW, anything else I should know about it
[11:12] <lightenup> would anyone recomend upgrading?
[11:12] <godofredo07> I just want to know how to remove the clicking and stuttering from AOSS when running ENEMY TERRITORY................
[11:12] <jussi01> Woodstokk, Im going now, Ill be back soon if you need me.
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> bulmer: cuz 3dgy is for H@ck3rZ.. lol
[11:12] <Woodstokk> ok, thank you for the info!  :)
[11:13] <godofredo07> IndyGunFreak, is my problem normal?
[11:13] <isak1005> I want to upgrade because I've heard that there is less of the terminal and more gui in 6.10
[11:13] <DrMitch> HA
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> godofredo07: i don't really know to be truthful, i dont' use ubuntu for games
[11:13] <lightenup> isak1005: naw
[11:13] <kane77> isak1005, I dont want to upgrade for the same reason :)
[11:13] <DrMitch> i didn't know you could GET any less gui that ubuntu 6.06
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> godofredo07: i accept that the 1 limitation of Ubuntu is available games, so if you wnt to game, youre best staying on a dual boot system
[11:14] <lightenup> every time I try and upgrade something breaks
[11:14] <bulmer> isak1005: you dont need to see the terminal, just dont type ctl+alt+Fx
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> personally, my Xbox 360 fulfills my gaming needs
[11:14] <godofredo07> the only other OS i have is 98...I'm a little worried about security...
[11:14] <isak1005> fx?
[11:14] <jin> sudo apt-cache search murinne | less
[11:14] <bulmer> f1 f2 f3...
[11:14] <jin> erm
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> godofredo07: well, you may want to buy  360
[11:14] <godofredo07> IndyGunFreak, I'll pass :)
[11:15] <godofredo07> IndyGunFreak, Mucho $$$$
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> godofredo07: well, i dont know...
[11:15] <godofredo07> well, g2g
[11:15] <godofredo07> thank you all for your help...I've gotten farther and thank you all for it.....
[11:16] <TheVault> gotta go install ubuntu
[11:16] <TheVault> be back in a short
[11:16] <godofredo07> IndyGunFreak, is it realistic to run games via VMWARE?
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> godofredo07: i don't do it, but most say it can be done
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> probably easier than Wine
[11:17] <JosefK> godofredo07, not realistic
[11:17] <DrMitch> not any 3d games
[11:17] <godofredo07> o
[11:17] <DrMitch> i would recommend cedega for that
[11:17] <DrMitch> but you have to pay for it
[11:17] <godofredo07> makes sense
[11:17] <godofredo07> yeah, isn't cedega the full blown WINE?
[11:17] <ardchoille> You can compile cedega from source and you don't have to pay for it.
[11:18] <rogue780> does anyone here have a mail server running?
[11:18] <ardchoille> At least you used to be able to do that.
[11:18] <DrMitch> cedega is based on wine, but it has a bunch of stuff to enhance the directx stuff
[11:18] <Stuartmax> can run live cd on VMplayer..but can't boot on a dual core any ideas?
[11:18] <godofredo07> k
[11:18] <godofredo07> thx
[11:18] <kelsin> Cedega is a fork of wine with directX support, the support is being built into normal wine though. I run WoW, War3 and Starcraft in normal wine right out of the box
[11:18] <kelsin> if a game can use OpenGL instead of DirectX normal wine should be plenty
[11:18] <kinley> hi, want to compile kernel image for xen : got error : "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-xen0-2.6.16.29-bfkdom0 not in control info"  with this command : /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.29# make-kpkg --append-to-version -bfkdom0 --revision 1.00 kernel_image
[11:18] <kinley> any idia ?
[11:18] <DrMitch> starcraft doesn't use directx does it?
[11:19] <kelsin> starcraft does, but it's only directdraw stuff that normal wine handles fine
[11:19] <rryan> starcraft uses directdraw
[11:19] <DrMitch> ah
[11:19] <kelsin> since it's not 3d, and older, it works, some of the b.net interface is funky but the main game, and online games once you're out of the b.net interface is fine
[11:19] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Yo! I think there is quite big problems, now, now the edgy reposteris have probs with MD5
[11:20] <Thialfihar> I'm using Edgy and can't enable hyperthread.. anyone got any info on how to accomplish such a task?
[11:20] <Thialfihar> +ing
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: i thought you downloaded Dapper?
[11:20] <emdash> ahh okay i figured it out
[11:20] <emdash> it turns out the file /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local was missing
[11:20] <emdash> i copied the one from my edgy installation and was able to configure it
[11:21] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: yes, but this is on the edgy laptop
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> i dont know, i dont have problems with Ubuntu repos.
[11:22] <blanky> my friend installed xubuntu and he doesn't have internet access, I mean, he does, but his wirless isn't working on xubuntu
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> try adding some non-fficial ones maybe?   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[11:22] <blanky> anyone got any ideas?
[11:22] <blanky> !wireless
[11:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:22] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: What contry do you use for downloading
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> what country?.. USA I'm assuming, i've not looked at that, how do i check?
[11:22] <joshwhat> So, rubyripper is telling me that there isn't an audio cd in the cdrom drive, but there is.  I saw it.  I have two drives, but even when I change the settings in rubyripper to read from the other device, it tells me that there isn't a cd there.  Any suggestions?  By the way, SoundJuicer can read the cd.
[11:23] <isak1005> When I type gksu "update-manager -c" in the terminal window, I get an error: SystemError: E:Typen 'deb' er ukendt p linje 34 i kildelisten /etc/apt/sources.list, E:Listen med kilder kunne ikke lses.
[11:23] <isak1005> It is in Danish, but maybe you can recognise it anyway. I would appreciate some help
[11:23] <gholen> The first capitals in your sources.list, efter http://
[11:23] <eegore> I have a problem loading a joystick, it works fine under windows but will not load in Kubuntu. I checked dmesg and the joystick port is loading correctly. The stick I am using is the wingman interceptor using the Logitech ADI protocol.
[11:24] <godofredo07> i have the code that will fix my sound problem...It says I should add the code to my startup how would i do that?
[11:24] <zYe> how do i "install" a .bin file
[11:24] <lesshaste> I want to play a dvd in one linux box from another one?  What is the easiest way to do this?
[11:24] <blanky> sup Jokada
[11:24] <Jokada> blanky, hey
[11:25] <finalbeta> zYe: sudo chmod +x file.bin and then ./file.bin or sudo file.bin
[11:26] <blanky> hey guys Jokada here just installed xubuntu and his wireless internet isn't working. When he installed ubuntu it already worked out of the box, is xubuntu missing drivers? or can we simply (hopefully) activate them or something? to avoid the ironic situation where you need to download drivers to get the internet working
[11:26] <godofredo07> where is the pastebin again?
[11:26] <finalbeta> godofredo07: what code? It's probably instructions that should be placed inside asoundrc in your home dir. (if the file doesn't exist, make it)
[11:26] <blanky> !paste | godofredo07
[11:26] <ubotu> godofredo07: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <K3nto> hey guys im having problems with beryl: beryl-manager makes my screen go purple/green
[11:26] <kinley> cool
[11:26] <K3nto> plus it goes snowy and i can understand an inch of whts on my screen
[11:27] <blanky> anyone?
[11:27] <zYe> finalbeta: it says that my the file doesnt exisit
[11:27] <zYe> yet it does
[11:27] <godofredo07> finalbeta, this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8464/
[11:28] <finalbeta> zYe: file.bin would be, your bin file.
[11:28] <godofredo07> finalbeta, those are the instructions....i'm a n00blet, maybe you can make some sense of them :)
[11:28] <finalbeta> zYe: you are in the right directory right?
[11:28] <jin> repo malteo.homelinux.net is down!!!! if any one has murrine for Dapper Drake, please gshare it.
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: did ou get it working?
[11:28] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Nope
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, let me check my source list real quick
[11:29] <isak1005> When I type gksu "update-manager -c" in the terminal window, I get an error: SystemError: E:Typen 'deb' er ukendt p linje 34 i kildelisten /etc/apt/sources.list, E:Listen med kilder kunne ikke lses. It is in Danish, but maybe you can recognise it anyway. I would appreciate some help
[11:29] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Concidering to throw everything out
[11:29] <godofredo07> finalbeta, you get it man?
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:30] <finalbeta> godofredo07: It's not for asoundrc, I don't know what the equivalent is in debian/ubuntu to the file they refer to.
[11:30] <nawty_Gyal> hey
[11:30] <jussi01> isak1005, you have a problem with your sources.list
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: if its any consolation, before coming here, i spent about 17hrs trying to configure dual monitors.
[11:30] <godofredo07> finalbeta, everyone in the ubuntu forums says it works...
[11:30] <jussi01> isak1005, on line 34
[11:30] <zYe> finalbeta: yea i think ive already cd to my desktop
[11:30] <gholen> IndyGunFreak: Done that too :)
[11:31] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:31] <zYe> finalbeta: im pretty newb at this >_<
[11:31] <Hot_Babe> hi
[11:31] <isak1005> jussi01: Yes, but I am complete Linux noob, and I do not even know what the sources.list is?
[11:31] <Hot_Babe> what is linux
[11:31] <gholen> WTF! Aptitude seems to work..
[11:31] <jussi01> so type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and check out line 34
[11:31] <SmileyLap> help me, i can't hibernate :(
[11:31] <gholen> .But not apt-get
[11:31] <IndyGunFreak> gholen: i dont know man, you have issues..ll
[11:31] <SmileyLap> Ok guys, good for one you.  Before i upgraded my ubuntu version, hibernate worked fine. Now, if i hit hibernate, it goes into standby, and never "shuts down".....
[11:31] <finalbeta> godofredo07: it probably does work. You can run the commands in the terminal to test and it will work. I just don't know how to make it run each boot.
[11:32] <damian> hi guys, very newbie question, how do I get to my home folder in the terminal?
[11:32] <Hot_Babe> i think yall need some pussy in ur life, your life revolves around computers too much
[11:32] <isak1005> jussi01: Ok, I'll try
[11:32] <finalbeta> zYe: do ls and see if the bin file is listed.
[11:32] <Hot_Babe> i will titty wank you all for 150 each
[11:32] <finalbeta> Fast one ompaul
[11:32] <kinley> cd
[11:32] <jussi01> damian, when you open terminal it is in your home folder
[11:32] <Peyvand> hi
[11:32] <Peyvand> Im new here
[11:32] <godofredo07> finalbeta, It just keeps saying access denied!
[11:32] <atomiku> wb cables
[11:32] <Peyvand> i use Parsix but i dont know how  I can print a page
[11:32] <godofredo07> finalbeta, how do i log on as root in the terminal and make it stay on?
[11:32] <finalbeta> godofredo07: use sudo in front of the commands.
[11:33] <cables> What's the command to quit X?
[11:33] <jussi01> !ops | Hot_Babe is trolling and spamming
[11:33] <`nicola> guys I need help: I installed firefox 32 on my amd 64 system following a tutorial. It works fine except that no icon is associated to the program http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/nicoladimaria/Schermata.png I know it may sound stupid but it's important to me becase that little icon help me to recognize firefox in the task bar and in the alt+tab popup what can I edit to restore the icon associated to the software ? thanks
[11:33] <ubotu> Hot_Babe is trolling and spamming: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:33] <damian> jussi01:really? because I see damian@damian-desktop:-$
[11:33] <godofredo07> finalbeta, could you give me an example?
[11:33] <finalbeta> cables:  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:33] <godofredo07> finalbeta, please..
[11:33] <cables> finalbeta: thanks
[11:33] <finalbeta> godofredo07: sudo echo 'et.x86 0 0 direct' > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:33] <damian> jussi: is that my home directory?
[11:33] <ompaul> jussi01, I got rid of it a while ago
[11:33] <kinley> anyone : dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-xen0-2.6.16.29-bfkdom0 not in control info ?
[11:34] <finalbeta> damn, I'm getting yellow spots in my vision, lol
[11:34] <finalbeta> This can be bad.
[11:34] <jussi01> damian, yes
[11:34] <zYe> no it isnt listed
[11:34] <zYe> finalbeta,
[11:34] <damian> ok, thx
[11:34] <ignas> how does one make mplayer xv output show up on a second monitor ?
[11:34] <abo> I'm trying to get xmms to read some m3u (mp3 winamp playlist) files from old cd's I have, it's having problem with the \ , is there a way to fix that?
[11:35] <zYe> finalbeta: i think i forgot how to "get to" the desktop directory
[11:35] <godofredo07> finalbeta, it still says permission denied!
[11:35] <finalbeta> zYe: then you are in the wrong dir, use pwd to see what dir you are in, use cd .. to go a dir up, use cd dirname to change ditr
[11:35] <peeps> can document viewer(pdf) be made to display directly in the firefox window?
[11:35] <godofredo07> peeps, mine automatically does that after i updated...
[11:35] <jussi01> ompaul, Im sorry, was a litle slow...
[11:36] <ompaul> np
[11:36] <finalbeta> godofredo07: sry, don't know then.
[11:36] <cables> I ran /etc/init.d/gdm stop in tty1, but when i do ctrl-alt-f7, nothing's changed... what's up with that?
[11:36] <Thialfihar> Aaaaand once more: has anyone tried to enable hyperthreading in edgy and succeeded? If so: how is it done? Do I need an SMP kernel?
[11:36] <zYe> ok
[11:36] <godofredo07> hey guys, if i put in this command it says access denied : sudo echo 'et.x86 0 0 direct' > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:36] <godofredo07> what is up w/that?
[11:36] <cables> Thialfihar: it was on by default in Edgy 'cause of the generic kernel
[11:36] <cables> godofredo07: do you have sudo rights?
[11:37] <peeps> godofredo07: you upgraded what the document viewer?  I am already at the latest version
[11:37] <Dna^> hallo
[11:37] <toulouse> hey guys, i am trying to blank a cd in k3b, but it keeps failing, any tips
[11:37] <toulouse> ?
[11:37] <cables> toulouse: make sure it's a cd-rw :)
[11:37] <isak1005> jussi01: My line 34 looks like this: deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main
[11:37] <isak1005> Can you - or anyone else - fix it? If yes, I'll be a glad man ;)
[11:37] <finalbeta> k, I need to stop,  to many stops in my sight, this is nuts. weird. Didn't even do drugs.
[11:37] <Thialfihar> Yes, cables, but apparently it is turned off by default now since some kernel update.
[11:37] <toulouse> cables: it is
[11:37] <cables> toulouse: maybe it's scratched or something
[11:37] <cables> Thialfihar: so I can't kill X?
[11:37] <toulouse> cables: any way to force blank it? cause it's not damaged
[11:37] <Thialfihar> Or maybe I misunderstand something... how can I check whether it is on or off?
[11:37] <godofredo07> cables, idk how do i find out?
[11:38] <godofredo07> cables, i installed the system and am the only one on the pc
[11:38] <cables> godofredo07: do sudo -i and see what happens
[11:38] <Thialfihar> What?
[11:38] <jussi01> !automatix | isak1005
[11:38] <ubotu> isak1005: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:38] <Thialfihar> Why would killing X require HT?
[11:38] <cables> Thialfihar: sorry, wrong person
[11:38] <godofredo07> i think it worked!
[11:38] <zYe> finalbeta: it said (after i cd to desktop) ./WRT300N_1.03.3_US_code.bin: 1: cannot open : No such file ./WRT300N_1.03.3_US_code.bin: 11: Syntax error: ")" unexpected
[11:38] <kelsin> Thialfihar: you can: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and see if "ht" is listed under the "flags" line (I think)
[11:39] <cables> Is there any reason that nothing's changed in ctrl-alt-f7 when I ran /etc/init.d/gdm stop in tty1?
[11:39] <isak1005> ubotu: Ok. Isn't it possible just to remove Automatix2?
[11:39] <jussi01> isak1005, I think the automatix repos are down. try putting a # in front of that line
[11:39] <cables> isak1005: ubotu's a bot.
[11:39] <Thialfihar> yeah, not in there.
[11:39] <jussi01> !ubotu | isak1005
[11:39] <ubotu> isak1005: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix
[11:39] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:39] <Thialfihar> wait
[11:39] <Thialfihar> actually is...
[11:39] <Thialfihar> hohum.
[11:39] <Flannel> isak1005: you can just comment it out, but automatix, once used, has already done it's damage
[11:40] <peeps> godofredo07, can you tell me what/how you updated to make pdfs show in firefox?
[11:40] <isak1005> jussi01: I'll try. Strange with a bot wandering about. I thought he was a real person :P
[11:40] <godofredo07> peeps, hold on
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> automatix repos are working
[11:40] <jussi01> isak1005, hehe, I trigered that for you
[11:40] <Dna^> can I get the new version of gaim to ubuntu 5.04?
[11:40] <omglazers> Anyone mind helping me answer a kernel compile question when installing a network driver?
[11:40] <dominator> Who r from Russia? $)
[11:40] <Seveas> !ru | dominator
[11:40] <ubotu> dominator:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:40] <Tmi> Jedis
[11:41] <Flannel> Dna^: Er... 5.04 has gone out of support, you should upgrade.
[11:41] <isak1005> !WorksForMe
[11:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:41] <MoNSTRiK> http://tattoo.clan.su/
[11:41] <dominator> thx
[11:41] <ziadoz> during the install of ubuntu from a live cd can i change where GRUb is installed to?
[11:41] <jussi01> isak1005, did making that change and saving the file solve your problem?
[11:41] <Seveas> ziadoz, no
[11:41] <Thialfihar> It's in there, kelsin.. but when I start some single-thread CPU-eating process, then the CPU usage climbs to 100% in my resource graphs as if there was only one.
[11:41] <Dna^> Flannel how? (without wait de CD or download .iso)
[11:42] <ziadoz> well after you get to the end of the partitioning
[11:42] <Flannel> Dna^: you can upgrade in place.  To 5.10 then 6.06
[11:42] <ziadoz> it gives you a summary of all the settings, where it says GRYB hd0, and you can change the text in the hd0 box, doesnt that change where it goes too?
[11:42] <Dna^> Flannel how i look my kernel version or ubuntu version from the terminal?
[11:43] <eck> usually the max cpu usage will be 100% * number of processors
[11:43] <Flannel> Dna^: uname -a
[11:43] <Seveas> Dna^, uname -a  and lsb_release -a
[11:43] <Flannel> Dna^: ubuntu version is lsb_release -a
[11:43] <eck> e.g. that is how it is displayed by top
[11:43] <Seveas> eck, due to the way it's defined and calculated it may be more than that :)
[11:43] <omglazers> gyaresu: Hey, would you happen to be around? I have a quick question from the help you gave me yesterday :)
[11:44] <DM|> do any of you know of a way to down power an Nvidia card to get more battery life?
[11:44] <lesshaste> does mplayer in ubuntu not play dvds? I get  Encrypted VOB file! Read DOCS/HTML/en/cd-dvd.html
[11:44] <jussi01> !dvd | lesshaste
[11:44] <ubotu> lesshaste: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:44] <Dna^> Flannel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-6-386 #1 Fri Sep 15 12:41:20 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:44] <kitche> DM|: only way I know is to unclock the card
[11:44] <DM|> kitche my oclock and uclock seem to be broken, mind if you help me?
[11:45] <grimboy> How do I kill the shortcut for slow keys? (shift for 8 seconds)
[11:45] <Muntrue> Hello can anyone tell me why its super slow copy'ing files from ubuntu to windows over a 10/100 Mb network ?
[11:45] <Seveas> grimboy, system ->prefs-> keyboard
[11:45] <omglazers> Anyone mind helping a total linux newb on a minor kernel compile error?
[11:46] <erUSUL> !anyone > omglazers
[11:46] <lesshaste> jussi01, I thought mplayer had its own built in code?
[11:46] <omglazers> erUSUL: Sorry erUSUL :)
[11:46] <Flannel> Dna^: yep, you're on Hoary still.  If you're worried about bandwidth, you'll probably just want to do a fresh install of Dapper, Otherwise you'll have to upgrade to Breezy and then to Dapper (since Breezy will go out of support at the end of April)
[11:47] <zYe> i have a linksys router with some firmware in the form of a .bin file what do i do
[11:47] <zYe> just recently got it
[11:47] <grimboy> Seveas, Thanks but I can't seem to find it in there or in Assistive Technology Preferences.
[11:47] <lesshaste> jussi01, are you sure you need to that play dvds in mplayer?
[11:47] <kelsin> zYe: I would goto linksys's website for that
[11:47] <jussi01> lesshaste, i think you still need the modules from there
[11:47] <lesshaste> has anyone played a dvd in mplayer ubuntu?  Did you need to install libdvdcss2 separately?
[11:47] <zYe> kelsin: what should i go there for? i got the firmware from their site but  found no instructions
[11:47] <jussi01> lesshaste, ask Seveas he's the expert with that stuff
[11:47] <zYe> kelsin: im quite new to ubuntu
[11:48] <kelsin> zYe: but ubuntu has NOTHIGN to do with upgrading your router's firmware
[11:48] <lesshaste> Seveas, hi..are you here?
[11:48] <omglazers> Here's my question: Im trying to install a ethernet driver which requires me to make a symbolic link in /usr/src to /usr/src/kernel and I do so using the method they ask, however, when the driver install attempts to install, it tries to compile the kernel and fails with an error. I have the log here if anyone wants to help with that. I've got it working before on kubuntu but ubuntu doesnt want to take it, it seems.
[11:48] <erUSUL> omglazers: no need to apologize. just ask a specific question or post the error in a pastebin
[11:48] <Dna^> Flannel fresh install of dapper? u mean no totally?
[11:48] <zYe> kelsin: well ive yet to even get it working yet
[11:48] <Enselic``> Computer memory is organized in bytes, right? so there are eight bits between adress 0x00000001 and 0x00000002?
[11:48] <omglazers> erUSUL: Im so new, I dont even know what a pastebin is :P Mind telling me?
[11:48] <omglazers> erUSUL: Oh, pastebin.com
[11:49] <erUSUL> omglazers: usualy you just install 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' to compile 3 party modules
[11:49] <Enselic``> omglazers: rafb.net/paste is the best
[11:49] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <zYe> kelsin: i was running a hub, and now i bought a router, but i can no longer get online
[11:49] <Seveas> Enselic``, neh, paste.ubuntu-nl.org is better :)
[11:49] <omglazers> erUSUL: Its not available. I had to download the driver from Marvell for the ethernet
[11:49] <r3factored> anyone have problems installing wine?
[11:49] <zYe> kelsin: this is my first experience with a router also
[11:49] <godofredo07> okay guys! thanks
[11:49] <Seveas> !anyone | reflect
[11:49] <ubotu> reflect: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:49] <godofredo07> I got the sound card working now
[11:49] <r3factored> i get a bunch of errors trying to run winecfg
[11:49] <Seveas> !anyone | r3factored
[11:49] <ubotu> r3factored: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:49] <kelsin> zYe: That's not a question for this channel, that is a question for linksys or router people, that's what I was saying
[11:50] <omglazers> erUSUL: Ive gotten it working fine on kubuntu but with this ubuntu install it just doesnt seem to like to compile the kernel in the install. everything else works fine. Want the error log, maybe?
[11:50] <godofredo07> Now it just says i need to add it to the startup script
[11:50] <godofredo07> how do i add some code to the startup script?
[11:50] <Flannel> Dna^: what?  I mean download the Dapper ISO, and install it.  If you have a separate home partition, You won't have to backup any of that, if you don't, then yeah, you'll have to backup/restore your data if you do the reinstall
[11:50] <godofredo07> cables, how do i add some code to the startup script?
[11:50] <zYe> kelsin: yes but there is a interaction with ubuntu and the router in order for it to work
[11:50] <godofredo07> cables, you know everything :)
[11:50] <erUSUL> omglazers: yes post it in a pastebin
[11:51] <erUSUL> !pastebin > omglazers
[11:51] <zYe> kelsin: but the router came with a bunch of .exe installation files, so i went to their site and got the files in .bin form
[11:51] <omglazers> erUSUL: Ok, one sec. Gotta get it off the desktop
[11:51] <zYe> kelsin: now i should extract/install something from the .bin on ubuntu right
[11:52] <godofredo07> does ubuntu have a startup script i can access?
[11:52] <ClarKent> ClarKent(+i)]  [3:#ubu [Act: 1,2] . . . . . .
[11:52] <ClarKent> [#ubuntu] 
[11:52] <godofredo07> i need to add code..
[11:52] <r3factored> here are the errors I get when running winecfg - i installed the ubuntu edgy package from winehq. http://www.shortText.com/4zjl8c
[11:52] <r3factored> and have made sure there are no others versions installed.
[11:52] <godofredo07> r3factored, I would install it via automatix
[11:52] <rem_> gogo -> /etc/rc2.d
[11:53] <r3factored> godofredo07: ok i have that i will try thanks
[11:53] <kelsin> zYe: no, if you are connecting to your router with ubuntu via an ethernet cable it has nothing to do with ubuntu, same as if you were using windows. Installing firmware is normally done via the web control panel on your router, you should get out your router instruction manual or download it from linksys and look up how to update firmware
[11:53] <feNNec_> hello ! alsa pb for hda-intel. somebody wants fun ?
[11:53] <ClarKent> I'm using edgy, latest openbox, and I can't get programs and wallpapers to start at login. I tried the tut on the forums and it didn't work.
[11:53] <godofredo07> has anyone ever edited the startup script??
[11:54] <godofredo07> that would probably be the first person i would ask :)
[11:54] <Zamber_> how to check one file size from console? I need it for a .sh script
[11:54] <zYe> kelsin: well what i am really wondering is how i can configure my router via ubuntu
[11:54] <ziadoz> can any clarify something for me about this? http://debianadmin.com/copper/albums/edgy/22.png
[11:54] <omglazers> !pastebin
[11:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <ziadoz> can i change the location of GRUB at this stage of the install by changing the text in that box?
[11:54] <kelsin> zYe: via your browser JUST like in windows, totally OS  agnostic
[11:54] <Rasiote> labanakt
[11:55] <tiHo> hi all! please see #freeforum :)
[11:55] <Xenguy> Zamber_: ls or du  ?
[11:55] <omglazers> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8466/
[11:55] <Flannel> ziadoz: yes.  Well, stage 1 of grub anyway
[11:55] <naut> What is the preferred ubuntu way of managing services?
[11:55] <Flannel> ziadoz: stage 2 is handled on the previous screen, where you've chosen where /boot is
[11:55] <compengi> !paste
[11:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:56] <naut> i.e. like rc-update in gentoo or chkconfig
[11:56] <feNNec_> is there anybody to help me in troubleshooting alsa pb for hda-intel soundcard on Dell laptop ???
[11:56] <ziadoz> whats the difference between stage one and two?
[11:56] <ompaul> naut, bum in gui or rcconf in terminal
[11:56] <LiENUS> I have an ubuntu 6.10 system using network manager, how can i share my ethernet connection over a wireless connection?
[11:56] <godofredo07> Flannel, do you know how to edit the ubuntu start up script...it is the last thing i have to do to get my box running perfect... :)
[11:56] <ziadoz> i want to install GRUB on the partition that Ubuntu is on
[11:56] <Flannel> ziadoz: stage1 is the stuff that gets installed to the MBR, stage 2 is the menu.lst and stuff
[11:56] <Zamber_> Xenguy what you have on mind?
[11:56] <naut> ompaul, thanks
[11:56] <erUSUL> omglazers: have you done? 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' or 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic'  ??
[11:56] <LiENUS> i want my girlfriends windows xp laptop to be able to connect to my laptop via wireless and use my internet connection
[11:56] <erUSUL> !hostap
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <godofredo07> !hostapp
[11:57] <godofredo07> ?
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostapp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <ziadoz> so if i tell stage 1 to install on hd0,1 (second partition) same as Ubuntu, all of stage 1 and two will be on the install partition
[11:57] <kelsin> Zamber_: ls -lh will give you human readable filesizes in the info, then you can grep and awk it to get only the size if you want
[11:57] <godofredo07> or not :)
[11:57] <LiENUS> erUSUL,  please dont recomment linux-headers-$(uname -r), linux-headers-generic is much more user friendly as it doesnt require a reinstall each time
[11:57] <Flannel> ziadoz: the majority of grub will be installed in /boot, so if you have a separate /boot, it'll be installed there, if you don't, /boot will be on the / partition.  stage1 gets installed to a disk, not a partition though.
[11:57] <omglazers> erUSUL: No, I dont believe so, but I dont believe my driver is available by the package getter
[11:57] <Zamber_> kelsin tkanks a lot ;] 
[11:57] <rem_> godo .../etc/inittab tels you what runlevel etc... and then in /etc/rc2.d/ you can add a startup script (or a sym link to /etc/init.d/ where the scripts usually are...). Start the name of the link or file with S a number and the name
[11:58] <Flannel> ziadoz: you'd install grub to hd0
[11:58] <Xenguy> Zamber_: 'ls -l' or 'du -k <filename>'
[11:58] <Xenguy> Zamber_: depending on what you need
[11:58] <ziadoz> Flannel, I want to install it to the partition with Ubuntu on
[11:58] <Flannel> ziadoz: For what reason?
[11:58] <ziadoz> im going to dual boot with NT bootloader
[11:58] <Flannel> ziadoz: GRUB can dualboot no problem
[11:59] <ziadoz> i know that :)
[11:59] <cinex> hi;
[11:59] <cinex> With azureus I have a problem getting a port to open. its configured on my router and in the iptables-save it shows: "-A tcp_inbound -p tcp -m tcp --dport 66666 -j ACCEPT" and "-A tcp_inbound -p udp -m udp --dport 66666 -j AC" but still I get NAT errors when I test the port. Have I missed something?
[11:59] <Sandroad> Hi
[11:59] <Zamber_> Xenguy -l is the thing I needed ;)
[11:59] <ziadoz> but i want to use my NT bootloader
[11:59] <ziadoz> can i achieve it that way?
[11:59] <ClarKent> anyone know an openbox tut that works with edgy? i tried the one at the forums but one section didn't work
[11:59] <rem_> there might be a gui in gnome to add stuff to the startup...but dunno about that..would try to google for it ...
[11:59] <Sandroad> can anyone help me get WPA to work with my new 6.10 install
[11:59] <eck> cinex: how many ports do you have????
[11:59] <LiENUS> i want my girlfriends windows xp laptop to be able to connect to my laptop via wireless and use my internet connection
[11:59] <eck> i thought there were only 64k
[11:59] <Sandroad> I read the docs but its still not working
[11:59] <erUSUL> omglazers: no those packages install the necesary dirs and 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' to comile drivers against the instaled kernel
[11:59] <Xenguy> Zamber_: 'man ls' has all the options :-)
[11:59] <kelsin> LiENUS: look into the firestarter package, it is a firewall but makes cofiguring internet sharing a bit easier too
[11:59] <cinex> open for azureus: its not the actual port. I canged it
[11:59] <ardchoille> ClarKent: What exactly are you trying to do with openbox? I use openbox as my wm in gnome.
[11:59] <zYe> kelsin: how do you suggest i get a connection from my modem to my router
[12:00] <LiENUS> kelsin, how do i even configure it so she can connect to my laptop?
[12:00] <jin_> !webbrowser
[12:00] <Zamber_> Xenguy thanks for help ;] 
[12:00] <jin_> !browser
[12:00] <Xenguy> Zamber_: yw
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webbrowser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[12:00] <eck> cinex: try something below 65536
[12:00] <Sandroad> !wpa
[12:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:00] <eck> you went too high
[12:00] <ompaul> LiENUS, gether putty.exe for connecting to your machine
[12:00] <LiENUS> ompaul,  did you even read what i asked?
[12:00] <cinex> eck it is already I used 66666 as the example
[12:00] <LiENUS> i want to share my internet connection with her
[12:01] <LiENUS> putty has nothing to do with that
[12:01] <kelsin> zYe: by following your ISP's, modem's and routers manuals
[12:01] <omglazers> erUSUL: I have honestly no idea what you said. Im that new.